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Mid-Morning Open Thread
Raoul Hynckes There are two wildly different versions of this painting. One is dark and foreboding. One is much lighter and airy. I have no idea which is closer to reality. The dark one is three down from the top at this site. Which one do you like more?
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 09:27 AM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 13, 2017 09:27 AM (MINbv)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at December 13, 2017 09:27 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 13, 2017 09:27 AM (T4n7S)
Posted by: bluebell ~ now we're cookin'! at December 13, 2017 09:27 AM (kNasr)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Garrett at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (ftdxp)
Posted by: Garrett at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (XHDFG)
Posted by: m at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (sVFZk)
490
O'Reilly conversing with VDH (Dec 8th). BOR prefaces conversation by saying he wants to get things right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fwGSNqiU2Q
So perhaps he really has something.
Posted by: Off the reservation at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (vWMNq)
Posted by: bluebell ~ now we're cookin'! at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (kNasr)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (AMcnv)
Posted by: Spypeach at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM (myc22)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:29 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 09:29 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Al Gropen at December 13, 2017 09:29 AM (tbOMB)
Posted by: m at December 13, 2017 09:29 AM (sVFZk)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 09:30 AM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Feminist Communist Anarchist Two-Spirit Tattooed Episcopalian Bishop at December 13, 2017 09:30 AM (6tOSa)
Posted by: BignJames at December 13, 2017 09:30 AM (1Oy/Q)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 09:30 AM (/qEW2)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 09:30 AM (XHDFG)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 09:30 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: BignJames at December 13, 2017 09:31 AM (1Oy/Q)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 09:31 AM (hLRSq)
It speaks to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 09:30 AM (/tuJf)
Hi! Sure is a wasteland, eh?
Posted by: The Skull Overlooking the Wasteland at December 13, 2017 09:31 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:32 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 09:32 AM (DJmLO)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 09:32 AM (wPiJc)
Wow!!
What is the source for the version posted here?
Can't decide which I like more. The "other" one has better detail. This one is a bit washed out. But they aren't photographs.
Posted by: Off the reservation at December 13, 2017 09:32 AM (vWMNq)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 09:33 AM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 13, 2017 09:33 AM (MINbv)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
Early proctologist's glove.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 09:33 AM (ftdxp)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 09:33 AM (DJmLO)
I blame Sessions.
I blame the shithead governor for picking Luther Strange instead of someone better.
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 09:34 AM (MyzK+)
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:34 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2017 09:34 AM (88xKn)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (ftdxp)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (/qEW2)
But where is the other hand? Ok, I don't want to know.
Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2017 09:34 AM (88xKn)
You'll feel just a little pressure..........
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (FTlwv)
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: bluebell ~ now we're cookin'! at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (kNasr)
Posted by: BignJames at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (1Oy/Q)
Posted by: Feminist Art Critic at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Karl the truth Rove at December 13, 2017 09:35 AM (ZuGkg)
It's chimp-armor.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 09:36 AM (Bdeb0)
We got a lousy AG AND we lost a Senate seat.
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 09:36 AM (MyzK+)
Posted by: Muldoon's been watching Forged in Fire again at December 13, 2017 09:36 AM (wPiJc)
But where is the other hand? Ok, I don't want to know.
Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2017 09:34 AM (88xKn)
The gauntlet obscures the bloody, severed stump behind.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 09:36 AM (OoDdz)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 13, 2017 09:36 AM (MINbv)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 09:28 AM
Thing's body armor.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2017 09:37 AM (p+Wdc)
AND Lois Lerner is still cackling.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 09:37 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Simplemind at December 13, 2017 09:37 AM (ZuGkg)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 13, 2017 09:38 AM (FTlwv)
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 09:38 AM (cAnNx)
LOL. What's the word for satire that sounds so real that it's hard to tell if it's a joke or not.
Anyway, I lucked out by not having to study under a professor like that.
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:38 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: Muldoon's been watching Forged in Fire again at December 13, 2017 09:38 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Simplemind at December 13, 2017 09:37 AM (ZuGkg)
.....if it's a BUCK.
Posted by: BignJames at December 13, 2017 09:38 AM (1Oy/Q)
Posted by: Soothie
Yeah, I kinda warned everyone about that...but nooooo...Sessions would be a great AG, they said...we gotta have Sessions, they said...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at December 13, 2017 09:39 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 13, 2017 09:39 AM (jsWA8)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2017 09:39 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:40 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:40 AM (NWiLs)
(He is fine)
See you morons later.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 09:41 AM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 09:41 AM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 13, 2017 09:38 AM (FTlwv)
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By "here" do you mean Loudoun or Northern Neck? I know you were doing a lot to the NN place.
Posted by: bluebell ~ now we're cookin'! at December 13, 2017 09:42 AM (kNasr)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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Why does Roy Moore escape everyone's wrath?
Guy blew a seat he should have won by 30 points.
Suddenly McConnell spending $20 million on a primary and getting Trump to come out against Moore in the primary to avoid this doesn't seem nearly as dumb as it did before.
P.S., I want McConnell gone too. But the biggest retard in this whole debacle is Roy Moore.
Posted by: Apache at December 13, 2017 09:42 AM (uc45P)
Posted by: Off the reservation at December 13, 2017 09:42 AM (vWMNq)
Posted by: bluebell ~ now we're cookin'! at December 13, 2017 09:42 AM (kNasr)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 13, 2017 09:43 AM (T4n7S)
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:43 AM (WDCYi)
Anyway, I lucked out by not having to study under a professor like that.
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:38 AM (nwqNw)
I don't think I ever had a problem with my professors in college. Although it was the mid-70s and I was a Chemistry major. Are things different now?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 09:43 AM (H1bGu)
Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2017 09:43 AM (Phln5)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 09:43 AM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at December 13, 2017 09:44 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at December 13, 2017 09:44 AM (jsWA8)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 13, 2017 09:44 AM (398bZ)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 09:44 AM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2017 09:45 AM (zLDYs)
Now we all did what we could do
A forged yearbook does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you (now tell me true)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 13, 2017 09:45 AM (ul9CR)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 09:45 AM (hLRSq)
Oh, he hasn't escaped mine. The man is an idiot.
But AL voters, knowing what was at stake, should have still held their noses and voted for him, knowing that Trump's agenda is at stake. Instead they held their noses and voted for a Commie baby killer.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (ZM2xo)
Now we all did what we could do
A forged yearbook does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you (now tell me true)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 13, 2017 09:45 AM (ul9CR)
=====Well done! (And I am old enough to appreciate it.)
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (QCX64)
Posted by: Apache at December 13, 2017 09:42 AM (uc45P)
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Moore is no retard. He succeeded in being removed AND suspended from a judicial position. Who else has accomplished that?
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (5NMZN)
Honestly, it seems twice as dumb now. Besides which, McConnell was opposing Mo Brooks in the primary to protect his Strange butt-boy. The GOPe didn't imagine Moore to be a serious contender.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (QQ+il)
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It strikes me as odd that you have a metal gauntlet, which is typically associated with knights, next to a rapier, which is more of a dueling sword and not something a knight would use in battle.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:40 AM (NWiLs)
Also, it's called "The Iron Hand" when I thought knight armor was generally made of steel.
These critiques aside, the neorealism at the link is really amazing. I wish art these days was more like that and less like..... whatever (literal) garbage we have now.
Posted by: pookysgirl at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (r9UYA)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (5ZRXN)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (TisfY)
Posted by: Bandit D'Arville at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (QLvwG)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 09:45 AM (hLRSq)
Remind me to avoid graveyards, then. I can't abide maudlin sentimentality.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (NWiLs)
I like the darker version better as it is more evocative of mood but I like the lighter version better because it shows interesting technique in painting something that looks metallic.
Hmmm.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (ZM2xo)
Baby Killer, Gun Grabber, Tranny-Enabler, Open-Border Advocate.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 09:45 AM (hLRSq)
You don't find sardine tins and dead pigeons cheery?...Well..
Posted by: BignJames at December 13, 2017 09:48 AM (1Oy/Q)
The martial imagery makes sense. A sword has always symbolized power. The National Socialists and Fascists were preaching it. The gauntlet could be seen as an "iron hand", a metaphor for dictatorship and absolute power. Hitler saw himself as a knight in shining armor on a quest to save the damsel Germania (he is a actually depicted in a painting as such here: https://tinyurl.com/ybdkoobw).
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:48 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 09:48 AM (wPiJc)
Can't someone take that glove and slap the Turtle around?
Another engineered loss of an easy Republican seat thanks to Mitch McConnell.
Take a bow, asshole. That was some mighty fine sociopathic thinkin' there.
Now can we get a new Senate Majority Leader?
This guy is poison.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 09:48 AM (9q7Dl)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (5ZRXN)
Told someone (I think it was Grump) to stop posting and go away for a while.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:48 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 13, 2017 09:49 AM (FTlwv)
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2017 09:49 AM (xjiRE)
Serious question: is this what sophisticated Europeans (and maybe New Yorkers) think is great art? The level of nihilism and world weariness is alarming.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2017 09:50 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 09:50 AM (4u7kU)
- - -
Also, this is an.....interesting take on the AL special election. Someone whose thinking is in line with Jack Straw's about Sessions not being so snooozy. After the wikileaks stuff, the Fusion GPS-FBI-DoJ-Hillary/Obama collusion, it's getting harder and harder to have a conspiracy theory that is wackier than reality.
https://twitter.com/People4Republic/status/940899131526021120
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (W+vEI)
Really? Ha! It's amusing because he's been on AoSIgnoreUser for months so I wouldn't even have seen it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (QQ+il)
When did military officers stop wearing swords as part of their dress uniform?
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (TisfY)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 09:43 AM (H1bGu)
It's been 10 years for me, but I was in Art History where interpretation is based largely on the person's personality and experiences. I would hope the Sciences would be different.
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (5ZRXN)
Continue to relentlessly, unfailingly be BSG.
Posted by: The Skull Overlooking the Wasteland at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 13, 2017 09:52 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: bluebell ~ now we're cookin'! at December 13, 2017 09:52 AM (kNasr)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (5ZRXN)
Told someone (I think it was Grump) to stop posting and go away for a while.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:48 AM (WDCYi)
It was on the heels of implying Moore had sex with underage hookers in 'Nam and flailing about once called out on it, but that was the capper.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:52 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 13, 2017 09:53 AM (m7LQK)
Oh, he hasn't escaped mine. The man is an idiot.
But AL voters, knowing what was at stake, should have still held
their noses and voted for him, knowing that Trump's agenda is at stake.
Instead they held their noses and voted for a Commie baby killer.
.
.
.Actually the Trump voters just stayed home for the most part and refused to vote. If he would have gotten a little over half of the votes Trump pulled last year he would have won.
It was all about turnout and the dems won.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 09:53 AM (+Dllb)
Posted by: blaster at December 13, 2017 09:54 AM (WonQS)
Posted by: Dang at December 13, 2017 09:54 AM (8b+oT)
I like the darker version better as it is more evocative of mood but I like the lighter version better because it shows interesting technique in painting something that looks metallic.
Hmmm.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (mf5HN)
I'm thinking the real painting is like neither of them but somewhere in between but closer to the darker one. The dark image is almost too dark to see everything he did in the painting. But the light one is almost certainly too light.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 09:54 AM (cAnNx)
Jones - 49.92% - 671,151
Moore - 48.38% 650,436
Write wasted vote - 1.69% - 22,780
total vote - 1,344,367
So Moore lost by 20,715, and the write-in wasted votes if they were Republicans caused him to lose.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 09:55 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 09:55 AM (5ZRXN)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 09:55 AM (wPiJc)
Serious question: is this what sophisticated Europeans (and maybe New Yorkers) think is great art? The level of nihilism and world weariness is alarming.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2017 09:50 AM (V+03K)
Shut up, you silly Philistine Babbitt. You're dirt beneath our feet. Go back to your bourgeois plumbing business or chemical plant and await our next pronouncement telling you what to think later. And we'll hate you some more.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 09:55 AM (VuvdO)
Posted by: Country Singer at December 13, 2017 09:55 AM (uiwCw)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 09:56 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 09:55 AM (wPiJc)
It's a space station.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:56 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Dang at December 13, 2017 09:57 AM (8b+oT)
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=372917
Slandering Moore or someone related to his campaign.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2017 09:57 AM (QCX64)
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2017 09:50 AM (V+03K)
If you can keep the artwork in it's historical context, then I think it's easier to understand why a work is liked or disliked, and why it becomes "great" or not. The problem with modern theorists is that they don't do that. Everything is judged by today's standards, which is unfair. One cannot understand or appreciate Polykleitos' "Spear Bearer" if it is being judged by AD 2017 standards.
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:57 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (5ZRXN)
Continue to relentlessly, unfailingly be BSG.
Posted by: The Skull Overlooking the Wasteland at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (RD7QR)
That's too bad.
Though obviously a lib, BSG can be pretty funny.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 09:58 AM (9q7Dl)
Note:
"their people" = *their people* !?!
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 09:58 AM (5NMZN)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 09:55 AM (wPiJc)
This is not my beautiful house.
This is not my beautiful wife.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:58 AM (WDCYi)
I find both horrifying. Seriously. The "brighter" one is somewhat more horrifying than the "darker", 'cause I can see the threat -- it's going to happen.
Posted by: sinmi at December 13, 2017 09:58 AM (r16S+)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (TisfY)
Don't the Marines still do?
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (pKqmv)
It was all about turnout and the dems won.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 09:53 AM (+Dllb)
I wonder what national party funding and NRSC money for GOTV efforts is worth in races like this. Think its worth more than 1%?
We're once again back to being told to sit down and shut up and vote for GOPe's candidates as they continue to refuse to do the basics for candidates in the general election if they are chosen by the people over their squishy preference in the primary.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (cAnNx)
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (r9UYA)
The other 0.2 percent couldn't read the directions to get to the testing place!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2017 10:00 AM (hcyUh)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 13, 2017 10:00 AM (tVWQB)
Iron Glove was Ironman's original get up but trying to be a superhero only wearing one glove just didn't work
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 10:00 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Under Fire
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More proof of white privilege.
Posted by: Dang at December 13, 2017 10:00 AM (8b+oT)
Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2017 10:00 AM (/7J2j)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (r9UYA)
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98.19 % speak Polish at home.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 10:01 AM (5NMZN)
Posted by: DaveA at December 13, 2017 10:01 AM (FhXTo)
Posted by: joncelli, contemplating an Escher print at December 13, 2017 10:01 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 10:01 AM (5ZRXN)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (r9UYA)
And yet still make better vodka than the Russians.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 10:01 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 10:01 AM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (TisfY)
Don't the Marines still do?
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.
.The Navy still does. We had a bitch of a time with our pilots swords and customs when we went back to Japan with the F/A-18s. They had to carry them in their cockpits because they couldn't go in unaccompanied baggage for some obscure reason I can't recall.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (NWiLs)
This is not my beautiful wife.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:58 AM (WDCYi)
This is not my beautiful life.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (kqsXK)
Posted by: Muldoon
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Yes it was a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzyw0i_7Skg
Posted by: Dang at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (8b+oT)
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Fair to say, they know this seat is temporary.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Dr Alice at December 13, 2017 10:03 AM (acSSI)
This is not my beautiful wife.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:58 AM (WDCYi)
This is not my beautiful life.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (kqsXK)
Same as it ever was
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:03 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (NWiLs)
47% of all people know that.
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 10:03 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2017 09:50 AM (V+03K)
Apparently it was painted in 1935. I wonder if there was anything in this guy's memory from some years before that would give him a nihilistic and world weary view. Hmmm. It would have to be a major event. Someone surely would have written down something about it happening.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 10:03 AM (cAnNx)
It was all about turnout and the dems won.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 09:53 AM (+Dllb)
I think the fact that the Republican'ts continue to welsh on their promises to the voters played a big part in that.
Where is the freaking Obamacare repeal?
That should've been a day one item.
I think the GOPe is seeking to return to their comfort zone- Minority Party Status.
Even with everything that was at stake, I'd have a hard time motivating myself to go to the polls knowing that we're still living at Peak Mitch.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 10:04 AM (9q7Dl)
On the bright side, Jones won't be there long enough to qualify for a senatorial pension.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:04 AM (QQ+il)
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Fair to say, they know this seat is temporary.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (sX1BW)
As Obamacare has shown, Demoncrats have no problem forcing some of their own to go Kamikaze in order to get their agenda through.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 10:04 AM (WDCYi)
Fair to say, they know this seat is temporary.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (sX1BW)
Not so fast..
Posted by: Hawaiian 9th Circuit Judge at December 13, 2017 10:04 AM (1CPDY)
It is clear to me that I lack understanding of the current political process, and electorate.
I made asumptions, about Alabama, that had no basis. Obviously.
I need to study this matter, and pay attention to what is going on.
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 10:06 AM (zSVEm)
Seems to happen to the GOP regularly.
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2017 10:06 AM (RbSs1)
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For the life of me, I have never understood how this country allows elected representatives to receive pensions.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:07 AM (sX1BW)
It is clear to me that I lack understanding of the current political process, and electorate.
I made asumptions, about Alabama, that had no basis. Obviously.
I need to study this matter, and pay attention to what is going on.
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 10:06 AM (zSVEm)
You sound like a politician caught in a scandal. LOL.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:07 AM (NWiLs)
It is clear to me that I lack understanding of the current political process, and electorate. I made asumptions, about Alabama, that had no basis. Obviously. I need to study this matter, and pay attention to what is going on.
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 10:06 AM (zSVEm)
With statements like that you have no future as a pundit, thought leader or public intellectual.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 10:08 AM (1CPDY)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 09:59 AM (r9UYA)
If you pronounce "Krzyzewski" as "Sha-chef-ski." Are you really literate? Or just throwing darts at letters
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 10:08 AM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (NWiLs)
Pretty sure I just determined that most people think this is probably wrong
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:08 AM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 13, 2017 10:09 AM (mynhJ)
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 10:06 AM (zSVEm)
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Just say you'd taken an Ambien and were on your way to vote or that you regret how the young lady misremembers the romantic evening you spent together.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot at December 13, 2017 10:09 AM (T4n7S)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 10:10 AM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2017 10:10 AM (hcyUh)
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A lot of errors made in this. Bottom line, there is no reason for the GOP to lose an Alabama Senate seat. Errors made a plenty, some that are very deep, some that are more on the surface. Maybe the biggest error is just the assumption that because it is a deep red state, you are entitled to the Senate seat.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:10 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (NWiLs)
Pretty sure I just determined that most people think this is probably wrong
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:08 AM (4u7kU)
Only 18.3% of people reject my rigorous statistical methods.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:10 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:11 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Mr. Wolf at December 13, 2017 10:11 AM (SCIcD)
We certainly wouldn't have lost a Senate seat. Jeff ran unopposed three years ago.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:11 AM (QQ+il)
Yeah, but looks aren't everything.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 13, 2017 10:00 AM (tVWQB)
Well...yeah. Lately, he has seemed to increasingly abandon good humor and good fellowship for....what? Libtard virtue signaling, I guess.
Anywho, I guess we'll see how that all shakes out.
Hopefully, back to the good humor side before he goes full you-know-who.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (9q7Dl)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (4u7kU)
Judging by the morbidity, the Dutch have a real aversion to continuing on into "tomorrow". Not an optimistic view of the future.
To disagree with JJ from the last thread: "Europe capped off its thousand-year pogrom to kill the Jews in 1945. Frankly, if Islam conquers Europe, so be it. Europe deserves it."
It's not so much Europe deserves it, it wants to commit suicide this way. I guess that doesn't necessarily exclude deserving it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (/qEW2)
Leadership isn't for everybody; Eddie Munster is Exhibit A.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (y7DUB)
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I've always been hesitant to want to remove good Senators to a Cabinet position. That's why I never liked calls for Cruz as AG. I think better to remove bad Senators that open up a spot, such as moving McCain to DOD to open up a seat for a better Republican.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (sX1BW)
==
he seemed liked an excellent candidate, can't predict the future
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (iS/NP)
For the life of me, I have never understood how this country allows elected representatives to receive pensions.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:07 AM
They make the laws. Self perpetuating.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular
Pretty sure I just determined that most people think this is probably wrong
Posted by: sofa saver
Only 18.3% of people reject my rigorous statistical methods.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular
The Horde is not a statistically significant sample of anything. Other than itself, and I wonder about that sometimes.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (2DOZq)
In hindsight, yuge mistake.
Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (2z74n)
Seems to happen to the GOP regularly.
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2017 10:06 AM (RbSs1)
Sure, we're throwing down our guns but it's only because we want the enemy to trip on them!
Posted by: Vichy GOPe at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (RD7QR)
129 Serious question: is this what sophisticated Europeans (and maybe New Yorkers) think is great art? The level of nihilism and world weariness is alarming.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2017 09:50 AM (V+03K)
Does anybody think it's "great" ie on the level of a Rembrandt or a Renoir? Nope - but, like buzzion said, perhaps there was something going on in Europe in the 1930's that made the artist feel sort of gloomy.
I don't like a lot of postmodern art, but I don't think art has to be all sunshine and fluffy bunnies and good cheer either. Lots of Old Masters paintings are not.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (ZM2xo)
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 13, 2017 10:09 AM (mynhJ)
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Trump underestimated the stupidity of the AL Republican party and the refusal of the locals to fix it. The state party is a mess.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (5NMZN)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:11 AM (2DOZq)
I posted a link to the exit polls from NBC on the EMT
131
Here is NBC's exit polls on the race. Take it for what it's worth.
Turnout was down on the Republican side but I can't find the raw numbers
yet. The AL Secretary of State has not yet posted the final numbers. (they have now)
http://tinyurl.com/y8hjv33m
white women voted for Moore.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (mpXpK)
Was he asleep at the time?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (/tuJf)
Never ascribe to ignorance that which can be adequately explained by malice.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (QQ+il)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Cheri at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (ZM2xo)
I'm not much for sunshine and fluffy bunnies, but you already knew that.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (NWiLs)
"In the Shadow of Tomorrow: Neo-Realism in the Netherlands"
Judging by the morbidity, the Dutch have a real aversion to continuing on into "tomorrow". Not an optimistic view of the future.
To disagree with JJ from the last thread: "Europe capped off its
thousand-year pogrom to kill the Jews in 1945. Frankly, if Islam
conquers Europe, so be it. Europe deserves it."
It's not so much Europe deserves it, it wants to commit suicide this way. I guess that doesn't necessarily exclude deserving it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (/qEW2)
I just don't want the US to have to go over there and fight again. Twice in the last 100 years is enough.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (jxbfJ)
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A fair critique. In for a pence, in for a pound.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Downcast at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (/mSD+)
Never stop commenting on the art thread. I need your knowledge to balance my mostly emotional reaction to the day's painting.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2017 10:15 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:15 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: RioBravo
Sigh. Talk about it I will then.
The AL GOP is about half Democrats that rebranded out of survival. Any bets how many switch back to flying their true colors?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (O7MnT)
In the last 40 years the state has gone from solid Democrat to solid Republican. This is the first statewide Democrat to win a race in over a decade.
They must be doing something right.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Cheri at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (oiNtH)
I like Bannon, but i think it's time for him to ride off into the sunset and start doing his work behind the scenes, outside of the public eye.
He's just not charismatic in the right way to get politically disengaged people to rally around him.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (hcyUh)
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:02 AM (sX1BW)
Unless Moore decides to run again.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (UBzPO)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (4u7kU)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (/tuJf)
majority do not seem to believe in any part of the platform except tax
cutting.
Posted by: Downcast at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (/mSD+)
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That is the one issue the GOP donor class agrees on.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (5NMZN)
majority do not seem to believe in any part of the platform except tax
cutting.
Posted by: Downcast at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (/mSD+)
and their tax cutting on the Senate side is not worth a shit.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (mpXpK)
majority do not seem to believe in any part of the platform except tax
cutting.
Posted by: Downcast at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (/mSD+)
Seriously? With a diminished majority looming, they have about 10 days to pass their tax cut bill. Watch them "F" that up.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (jxbfJ)
It's not so much Europe deserves it, it wants to commit suicide this way. I guess that doesn't necessarily exclude deserving it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 10:12 AM (/qEW2)
My view? I don't care what happens to them. This isn't a natural disaster, it's the result of decisions made of their own free will. Anyone who questioned those decisions was screamed down as a racist and Islamophobe by all the "right-thinking" people.
I am not averse to taking in Oktoberfest waitress refugees, however. No one's heart is that cold.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (/kr9/)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (O7MnT)
Yep. So they can bitch about Big Government while continuing to benefit from it.
The National Review and Weekly Standard writers can continue to write scathing and oh-so-witty essays about PC on campus (but not illegal aliens, heaven forbid!) and then they can return home to their nice homes in Chevy Chase and NW DC and the Upper West Side. Maybe they'll get a speaking gig at the Cato Institute and the Heritage Foundation every so often, which is nice for them.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (ZM2xo)
I want him to run against Shelby. But really, the man is 70. This was probably his last run for office.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (QQ+il)
My take: The Deep State want to continue to rule at all cost. The Constitution following citizens vastly outnumber them.
But the citizens have no encrypted radio nets, A-10s or M-1s. And are being monitored by the panopticon State and Google.
Can we virtue signal at the range enough for the deep state to only take our money?
Tune in next time to the Perils of USA Citizen.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (hyuyC)
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I don't know under the senate plan, my taxes are cut way down, under house plan, they go up - at least according to the tax comparison calculator I ran
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (/tuJf)
A fat idiot who, quixotically, is eerily wicked-smaht when it comes to freight rail regulations, competitive-access issues, and legislation.
Don't ask Zod how he knows this.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (Bdeb0)
Republican party and the refusal of the locals to fix it. The state
party is a mess.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 10:13 AM (5NMZN)
I call your Alabama and raise you one Louisiana GOP.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (UBzPO)
Ok then.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 13, 2017 10:19 AM (l4NG+)
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Agree.
Posted by: Cheri at December 13, 2017 10:19 AM (oiNtH)
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A fair critique. In for a pence, in for a pound.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (sX1BW)
Eh, there's a risk of looking unpresidential by wading too far in, like Cock Curious did every time.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 13, 2017 10:19 AM (y7DUB)
Yep. So they can bitch about Big Government while continuing to benefit from it.
The National Review and Weekly Standard writers can continue to write scathing and oh-so-witty essays about PC on campus (but not illegal aliens, heaven forbid!) and then they can return home to their nice homes in Chevy Chase and NW DC and the Upper West Side. Maybe they'll get a speaking gig at the Cato Institute and the Heritage Foundation every so often, which is nice for them.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (ZM2xo)
That's about the size of it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:19 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:19 AM (sX1BW)
Years ago, during the holidays, a young couple was making their first attempt at preparing a full turkey dinner with all the trimmings. The young bride wanted everything to be perfect in order to impress her in-laws. Her husband was watching the football game with the father-in-law and went into the kitchen to grab a couple of beers. He was making his way back to the TV room just as his wife was taking the turkey out of the oven. She struggled with the heavy bird and began to lose her tenuous grip. "Help, honey!" she cried. In the split second decision, he held on tight to avoid spilling the beers, only to see the turkey crash to the ground. With dinner in ruins, the young wife fled to her bedroom in tears. Two days later she filed for divorce. This all goes to demonstrate what I've always said,
A hand on the bird is worth two on the Busch.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 10:19 AM (wPiJc)
Prom king next spring. Tanned, rested, ready.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (Bdeb0)
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yep.
i have a story...long time ago, I knew a woman whose parents lived in Arkansas. And her parents, while democrat, were lividly, absolutely anti-Bill CLinton. I was surprised - he is their won, why ? Well...now we know. I think the case of Roy Moore is similar.....people who are closest, know best.
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (/tuJf)
A fat idiot who, quixotically, is eerily wicked-smaht when it comes to freight rail regulations, competitive-access issues, and legislation.
Don't ask Zod how he knows this.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (Bdeb0)
Yeah. Nadler is annoying and insulting and a smarmy dick but he's definitely not an idiot.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (RD7QR)
Democrat to solid Republican. This is the first statewide Democrat to
win a race in over a decade.
They must be doing something right.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (QQ+il)
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The extreme corruption of the state party is new. What they did for four decades no longer matters. What they do today and tomorrow does.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (5NMZN)
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A fair critique. In for a pence, in for a pound.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM (sX1BW)
Eh, there's a risk of looking unpresidential by wading too far in, like Cock Curious did every time.
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Then don't go in at all. Isn't that the point?
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (sX1BW)
>>Don't ask Zod how he knows this.
He also seems not to be able to read and understand obvious text messages between 2 DOJ employees who were trying to take down Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: azalea city at December 13, 2017 10:22 AM (WX+x0)
Posted by: SH
Funny how only the Dem classes ever really benefit.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at December 13, 2017 10:22 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (/tuJf)
I'm gonna bet that playing the gormless empty-headed fool suits his sinister Nadlerian intentions...
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:23 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:23 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:17 AM (/tuJf)
Congress, especially the left is full of these moron who cannot lose
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:23 AM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Hillary! at December 13, 2017 10:23 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: Cheri at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (oiNtH)
Posted by: azalea city at December 13, 2017 10:22 AM (WX+x0)
OMG that sounds good. The past 10 years are enough to make me fall off the wagon and try that.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: SH
Funny how only the Dem classes ever really benefit.
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That's not true. There are a lot of conservatives that pay a lot of taxes that would like to pay less and would.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: RioBravo
Spoken like someone with no clue about Alabama politics. It's been thoroughly corrupt for longer than any of us have been alive. It's just that it doesn't normally have national consequences.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (/qEW2)
The artist Gustave Courbet once wrote that an artist can only depict the era in which he lives because he understands it. He should NEVER depict the Past. The times were different and a present artist will always get it wrong. I think a similar idea needs to be applied to art theory. I can judge art from the last 40 years, but I must rely on the opinions of others from the past to properly understand the Past Masters. In my opinion, it is wrong to do otherwise because one's judgements are then based on flawed or erronious premises.
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (nwqNw)
I just don't want the US to have to go over there and fight again. Twice in the last 100 years is enough.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2017 10:14 AM
Twice is two times too many.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (IqV8l)
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I'd say there is still a 50% chance he never resigns.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (sX1BW)
But metal gauntlet and Rapier? was not a 'thing'...
Rapier takes a lot of fine control through the fingers.... and the weight of the gauntlet would slow down the very speed you use for defense...
Posted by: Don Q. at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (hcyUh)
While I agree with much of what Bannon says, going around looking like a hobo works for Michael Moore, but a guy who is trying to appeal to conservatives really should shave and wash his hair and maybe not look like he eats Thanksgiving dinner at the Rescue Mission.
Steve, we all know you have a shitload of money. Buy a couple of suits and ties instead of thinking that looking like a slob will endear you to regular Joes and Janes. Trump doesn't wear high fashion suits, but he wears suits and ties.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (ZM2xo)
And some people still doubt my existence.
*feeds another McRib to Ted Kennedy*
Posted by: Satan at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (TisfY)
They still can, according to my brother, but he never bothered to purchase one.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (ZWEKT)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:15 AM (2DOZq)
His Winona schtick was funny for about one minute.
Like Ray Jay Johnson.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 10:26 AM (kqsXK)
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:20 AM (sX1BW)
If he said nothing then the GOPe whiners would start in with how he doesn't care about the party. It's a narrow line to walk to please everybody. I'm sure the Morning Homewreckers are claiming this was a referendum on him in their brainless manner.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 13, 2017 10:26 AM (y7DUB)
Sit-ting on a park bench...
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:26 AM (Bdeb0)
https://nasa3d.arc.nasa.gov/models
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 10:26 AM (7HtZB)
And some people still doubt my existence.
*feeds another McRib to Ted Kennedy*
Posted by: Satan at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (NF2Bf)
Blasphemy. As Monty used to say, it could be made from hammered toad anuses for all I know but it's still ambrosia.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Don Q. at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (NgKpN)
But getting punched in the face by a gauntlet would sting.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 10:28 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (ZWEKT)
I know! get a load of that one ! -->
Posted by: Satan at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (NF2Bf)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:28 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 10:28 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 13, 2017 09:51 AM (TisfY)
They still can, according to my brother, but he never bothered to purchase one.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (hLRSq)
I thought they were for Marines & cavalry?
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 10:28 AM (7HtZB)
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Wait so you don't have to spend all day building one, only to have your little brother break it within an hour?
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:28 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 10:24 AM (/qEW2)
Yup.
"Magic Gauntlet Rising"
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 10:29 AM (9q7Dl)
******
Heh. ISWYDT
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (wPiJc)
give Franken a Slavic last name ?
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:30 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at December 13, 2017 10:30 AM (EAFEJ)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 10:30 AM (O7MnT)
Any Ohio morons think Ohio can be taken from Brown?
Posted by: cn at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:28 AM (sX1BW)
Probably 20 hours. 3D printers are sloooowwww
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (UBzPO)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (4u7kU)
It was a dirty deal. Everyone knew it. Strange never adequately addressed it. That's how we got Moore.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (398bZ)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Bryan Singer at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (9q7Dl)
Posted by: Tofer732 at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (KAjP9)
Posted by: James Comey, Art Critic at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (Astxw)
I have my father's dress sword, and wore it to a few of my own Full Dress Inspections and Change of Command ceremonies.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2017 10:32 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Don Q. at December 13, 2017 10:25 AM (NgKpN)
But getting punched in the face by a gauntlet would sting.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 10:28 AM (hLRSq)
As does getting punched in the face with the Guard.... especially if you have sharpened quillions...
Posted by: Don Q. at December 13, 2017 10:32 AM (NgKpN)
My guess is Sessions returns to AL in 2020 and runs for his old seat.
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (4u7kU)
Think he'll be awake by then?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:32 AM (UBzPO)
He's just not charismatic in the right way to get politically disengaged people to rally around him.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 13, 2017 10:16 AM (hcyUh)
Rep. Steve King was interviewed on Maria B this morning and she asked him about his tweet stating that Bannon had to go.
He said that Bannon looks like a drunk that wandered in off the street and starts spouting off about politics. And that President Trump did the right thing by getting him out of the WH, as Bannon was doing nothing but causing strife and problems between administration officials.
Maria was speechless.
And I have to say I agree with King. I have zero idea why a person who wants to be taken seriously decides to grow a half assed dirty gray beard, wear sloppy shirts and a sport coat that is too small to button over his overhanging belly and then throw out constant charges against other Republicans, especially ones endorsed by the President in an effort to undermine their election.
McConnell supported a sitting Senator, which is what he is supposed to do. Alabama put that Senator there, not McConnell after Session was nominated to the AG position. Bannon decided to drag the Breitbots with him into destroying Strange, despite the fact the guy had voted with Trump's agenda almost 100%. I barely even look at Breitbart anymore because it has moved from being a serious alternative journalism into a kook filled" remove everyone from Congress." Glen Beck wannabe.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 10:32 AM (VSya6)
I'm so sorry to hear this.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 13, 2017 10:32 AM (398bZ)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:32 AM (iS/NP)
It was a dirty deal. Everyone knew it. Strange never adequately addressed it. That's how we got Moore.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed
The warnings, I give the warnings, nobody listens...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 10:32 AM (AM1GF)
Allred and Young? Beverly Young was quoted as saying she was excited
about Jones's win but her case against Moore will continue. Hmmmm....
my bet is 'useful idiot'.
She's admitted to falsifying evidence for her story. Allred would be an absolute fool if she hadn't already dumped her as a client or she could be liable for misconduct herself.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:33 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:33 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 10:33 AM (9q7Dl)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo
%^*
Prayers for him.
^(*(*#%(^@!
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 10:34 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: cfo mom at December 13, 2017 10:34 AM (RfzVr)
Posted by: Rex B at December 13, 2017 10:34 AM (G+fqv)
Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes...
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (4u7kU)
Sessions will be 74. Let's hope the Republicans in Alabama can find a younger, stronger candidate.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (VSya6)
Posted by: cn at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (5gaNQ)
I don't know if Josh Mandel is the right candidate to bring down the Restraining Order. If the GOPe Congress had repealed JEFCare and given a better tax bill than what they're cooking up, I'd like his chances to replace that hoarse voiced pile of shit.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (y7DUB)
All media including Fox railed against Moore. Martha McCallum was pounding Moore hard along with Rove, Marc Thiessen and every guest she had on while to polls were still open. Laura Ingraham was the same.
All media is shit these days. That Moore came within 2 points against that stacked deck shows how badly the uniparty wants to maintain their grip.
Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (XTiHL)
Posted by: cfo mom at December 13, 2017 10:34 AM (RfzVr)
Agreed. He entered chemjeff territory awhile ago.
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (xjiRE)
Allred and Young? Beverly Young was quoted as saying she was excited
about Jones's win but her case against Moore will continue. Hmmmm....
my bet is 'useful idiot'.
She's admitted to falsifying evidence for her story. Allred would be an absolute fool if she hadn't already dumped her as a client or she could be liable for misconduct herself.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:33 AM (oVJmc)
Not sure if Moore could afford it, but a counter lawsuit for Libel would be... delicious...
That woman effectively destroyed his reputation, and cost him the election.... if he can PROOVE she lied, he certainly has 'standing' due to damages.
Posted by: Don Q. at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (NgKpN)
137 proof , very smoooooth blue corn whiskey, Texas
sledgehammer in a velvet glove
Posted by: 21st century schizoid man at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (WX+x0)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (4u7kU)
Moore should have been shoved out and/or never nominated in the first place.
I definitely put a lot of blame on McConnell, but ultimately this was Roy Moore that blew an easy 25 point win.
And conservatives need to stop going "full retard" in primaries in order to thumb their noses at Republican leadership.
The easiest way to no longer make McConnell Majority Leader is to make Chuck Schumer Majority Leader. At this rate, it won't be long.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Mistress Midnight Flame at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (kqsXK)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (4u7kU)
Sessions will be 74. Let's hope the Republicans in Alabama can find a younger, stronger candidate.
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Nick Saban will be 69.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:38 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2017 10:38 AM (QCX64)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:27 AM
FIFY.
Posted by: Oxford Comma at December 13, 2017 10:38 AM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Rex B at December 13, 2017 10:34 AM (G+fqv)
That's too bad. Good singer.
"11" was a great album, but the Smithereens never could seem to put good albums back to back.
And so were almost rans.
Lotta talent but maybe no spark.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 10:39 AM (9q7Dl)
I have a feeling Schumer would be a cruel master.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:39 AM (Bdeb0)
What did I ever do to you?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 10:39 AM (kqsXK)
Along with the knight imagery, Hitler associated the Middle Ages with Germany's first Golden Age, the Holy Roman Empire. Gothic was the major art style of the time and many people equated the Gothic to Germany even though it was French in origin. In fact this German association was how it came to be called "Gothic". Along with being an Odinist, Hitler wanted to bring Germany back to its golden age. Hence the "Third" Reich; the first being the Holy Roman Empire.
If the artist here is responding to the rise of the National Socialists (being Dutch, with Germany right next door, why wouldn't he?) this could be another reason for the choice of objects. Traditionally, the objects in Dutch still-lifes have specific meanings. They aren't picked just because they are technically challenging to render. The entire work will, in many cases, have a deeper message.
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 10:39 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 10:40 AM (h/uSM)
way down, under house plan, they go up - at least according to the tax
comparison calculator I ran
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:18 AM (sX1BW)
Heritage compares the two plans on various incomes. The House plan doesn't start increasing taxes until family income exceeds $250,000. (family of 4)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 10:40 AM (mpXpK)
within 2 points against that stacked deck shows how badly the uniparty
wants to maintain their grip.
Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (XTiHL)
Moore was a terribly flawed candidate who brought his demise upon himself. He made it very difficult to publicly support him and it's lucky he did as well as he did. Maybe giving the middle finger to the establishment isn't the best election strategy.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:41 AM (UBzPO)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:41 AM (iS/NP)
perhaps those nice jihad fellows will allow us infidels to select the first us nuked city just this once
A. Washington DC
B.
Posted by: 21st century schizoid man at December 13, 2017 10:41 AM (WX+x0)
As someone said earlier, if the GOP did its fucking job in Congress, this would not be happening.
You want conservatives to stop acting out their discontent?
Stop giving them reason to.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 10:41 AM (AM1GF)
How did Roy Moore blow his lead? Did he submit the hitjob story to the Washington Post? This is not the first and will not be the last time voters show their ignorance.
As Churchill said, the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:41 AM (2DOZq)
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That isn't that hard to do with two working spouses.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (4u7kU)
Somebody (*cough Soros/Obama *cough) is clearing the decks for somebody else (Booker/Kameltoe/Deval Patrick). The Dem candidate in '20 will be either Black, female, or Latino if this wing of the party has anything to say about it.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (RD7QR)
==
that last sentence is flawed; that is how we got Trump. the rest - maybe
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (iS/NP)
-- Donald J. Trump
Maybe Roy could check the brakes while he's under that bus.
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (r9UYA)
*pouts a lot*
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:33 AM (mf5HN)
Careful. You'll be accused of making him Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (cAnNx)
85 "Why does Roy Moore escape everyone's wrath?"
Oh, he hasn't escaped mine. The man is an idiot.
But AL voters, knowing what was at stake, should have still held their noses and voted for him, knowing that Trump's agenda is at stake. Instead they held their noses and voted for a Commie baby killer.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (ZM2xo)
I voted for Moore with a clothespin on my nose, more's the pity. On further reflection, though, perhaps a voter fraud investigation is in order? Funny how all the deep blue areas reported in a full hour after the red counties were in. Hmmmm....
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (sZs9g)
I'm amazed at how many pedestrians are struck and killed by motor vehicles in Jacksonville. But trying to protect people is racist.
I think it'd be racist if police didn't try to keep these fucking assholes safe.
It can be infuriating when people saunter across the road in crosswalks, holding up traffic with FU posture and mannerisms. But crossing from god knows where, basically jumping out unseen from in front of a panel van or box truck is just asinine.
Protecting people is racist, not protecting people is racist.
Ridiculous.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at December 13, 2017 10:43 AM (4jGES)
I would vote for Moore if I lived in Alabama in the General Election, purely because of the alternative, but he really was an over the top Theocrat that was every caricature that liberals paint conservatives. The high school dating was just additional confirmation what a fraud he was.
Just amazed so many conservatives wanted that in the first place to where he got the nomination.
If that platform can't sell in Alabama, where do you think its going to win?
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:43 AM (lKmt3)
hitjob story to the Washington Post? This is not the first and will
not be the last time voters show their ignorance.
As Churchill said, the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:41 AM (2DOZq)
It was all but over after the Hannity interview.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:43 AM (UBzPO)
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (cAnNx)
Oy vey.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 10:43 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:41 AM (iS/NP)
1935. Hitler wasn't Chancellor yet, but his star was rising.
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 10:43 AM (nwqNw)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 10:44 AM (h/uSM)
Why 8:30, do you ask?
I deduce this by noting that the gauntlet still retains the shape of a human hand resting on the edge of the balustrade indicating that it was very recently vacated. It is obvious that Sir Gawain was leaning against the ledge, lost his balance and tumbled backward into the ravine below, leaving the sword and gauntlet perched on the ledge. Therefore, the scene was captured just after knightfall.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 13, 2017 10:44 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:44 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: 21st century schizoid man at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (WX+x0)
All of their stuff is excellent! And too damned expensive. $50/bottle around here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2017 10:44 AM (wYseH)
==
that last sentence is flawed; that is how we got Trump. the rest - maybe
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I'd say there is enough blame to go around. If we were to assign the majority, it would seem like it should be on McConnell who miscalculated and has yet to deliver on a big win for the base (that is a deeper issue of course).
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:44 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (lKmt3)
This episode was all about that I will be the one who selects our senatorial candidates.
No need for any lame replies.
Mitch McTurtle
Posted by: sofa saver at December 13, 2017 10:45 AM (4u7kU)
I'll get right on that.
Posted by: Pence at December 13, 2017 10:45 AM (r9UYA)
You know you are happy that Moore lost. Just admit it.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:45 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Jmel at December 13, 2017 10:45 AM (AizR3)
Posted by: Kris at December 13, 2017 10:43 AM (nwqNw)
oh, he was full force by then - Nuremberg Laws came into effect in 1935.
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:45 AM (iS/NP)
*pouts a lot*
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:33 AM (mf5HN)
Careful. You'll be accused of making him Emmanuel Goldstein.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (cAnNx)
No, she won't. She lives more than ten miles from his house.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 10:46 AM (kqsXK)
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That isn't that hard to do with two working spouses.
That still puts you in the top 5% in income.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:46 AM (QQ+il)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (iS/NP)
I should have said that giving the middle finger to the establishment shouldn't be the ONLY strategy. Nominating fools doesn't help either. It was a miracle that Trump won. Not only is this a once in a lifetime opportunity it's the LAST chance we've got to save the country. I'm not sure about you but I didn't vote for President Sick Twitter Burn, I voted for him to do thew shit he said he would do. It's all over if 2020 comes around and tweets is all he has to show for his first term. Nobody is going to turn out for him.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:47 AM (UBzPO)
Your newsletter--it interests Zod. You will ensure that I receive it.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:47 AM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:33 AM (mf5HN)
Here...I'll make it up to you.
http://tinyurl.com/yb5w4v2z
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2017 10:47 AM (wYseH)
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (zy+gb)
BTW:
https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ/status/940834905856135168
Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (QCX64)
*waves both arms over his head*
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (QQ+il)
Posted by: cn at December 13, 2017 10:31 AM (5gaNQ)
I don't know if Josh Mandel is the right candidate to bring down the Restraining Order. If the GOPe Congress had repealed JEFCare and given a better tax bill than what they're cooking up, I'd like his chances to replace that hoarse voiced pile of shit.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (y7DUB)
Yeah. Not that high on Mandel as the guy. He had his shot last time and lost. I'm sure he's a great guy but might not have what it takes to unseat that jackass.
If Kasich hadn't gone all "We're stealing your money because Jesus wants us to help the poor!" along with all his other idiocy in trying to run for president he might have actually had a shot.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (cAnNx)
==
that last sentence is flawed; that is how we got Trump. the rest - maybe
Trump caught the zeitgeist last year, but his gifts are not transferable. Not everyone can do what he did.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (7uYFy)
https://tinyurl.com/ycg6xcvq
Here's a link to a story pedestrian deaths in Jacksonville:
https://tinyurl.com/y9h6sovk
Posted by: Denny Crane! at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (4jGES)
==
that last sentence is flawed; that is how we got Trump. the rest - maybe
Posted by: runner
____________
The difference is, Trump was running on issues that the Republican Party had told voters to shut up about.
Like immigration and globalism.
Roy Moore' nomination was like "what's the most disgusting thing we can do to show how much we hate McConnell!." It was the same with Christine O'Donnell.
I'm done with "kamikaze" candidates. Going kamikaze is what the Japanese did when the knew the war was lost. We could have had a very conservative Republican in that seat right now.
Even if Moore had won, McConnell would still be Majority Leader.
If anything, this move just strengthened McConnells hand.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (G/kZc)
He delivered Thad Cochran with the same fervor he delivered Doug Jones.
Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (XTiHL)
The easiest way to no longer make McConnell Majority Leader is to make Chuck Schumer Majority Leader. At this rate, it won't be long.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:37 AM (lKmt3)
This.
If you are going to pick an outside, non legislative person to run for office, they need to be accomplished and able to reach the majority of voters in the district. Trump has a resume a mile long of accomplishments which is what helped him. He also always portrayed himself in rallies , etc. as someone you could picture as President, despite the tweets and in your face comments at times.
Moore looked to me like a belligerent asshole who ended up removed from the bench due to his refusal to uphold the law. That is no small matter. I know a lot of people here think just ignoring judges orders, not going through the legal process, etc. is what Trump should do, but the majority of people in the country still want to see the rule of law upheld. Do what our constitution allows to change to law but don't just give it the finger and expect everyone to approve.
And the visual yesterday of him ripping his horse's head around while trying to prove what a man he was trying to keep it from running off while he was doing his asinine schtick of riding to a polling place helped cement that opinion for me.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (VSya6)
That woman effectively destroyed his reputation, and cost him the election.... if he can PROOVE she lied, he certainly has 'standing' due to damages.
Posted by: Don Q. at December 13, 2017 10:36 AM (NgKpN)"
You can't get blood out of a turnip. Beverly Young is most certainly a special breed of turnip.
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (sZs9g)
Trump is not a fool. Be may act like a buffoon at times, but that's only an act.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 13, 2017 10:49 AM (pKqmv)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:49 AM (QQ+il)
I was an early Trump supported, all through the primaries, when he was one of 16, and I liked everything he brought to the table. Tweeting past the noise of the fascists in the media made me like him even more.
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 09:29 AM (NWiLs)
Can't argue there.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (aMlLZ)
Posted by: Sharkman at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (dDMQ9)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:47 AM (UBzPO)
Pay a little attention to something other than the MSM and Twitter, and you will discover that President Trump has gotten a lot accomplished.
He is remaking the judiciary.
He is gutting the Federal regulatory state.
He is pushing back forcefully in foreign policy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (wYseH)
No. Not because pf anything peculiar to Ohio, just senators who've been elected twice are almost impossible to unseat.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (O7MnT)
The I told you so posts are useless.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:51 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:51 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 10:49 AM (QQ+il)
Eh, a week, from my experience with the Horde. Less if there's a sex scandal to make flaccid dick jokes about.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:51 AM (RD7QR)
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Fair to say, they know this seat is temporary.
Posted by: SH
Don't be so sure. I fucked it up once; I can do it again.
Posted by: Mitch the Bitch at December 13, 2017 10:51 AM (326rv)
If you're not the GOPe candidate, you're not going to get any support from the party -- moral or economic.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2017 10:51 AM (QCX64)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 10:51 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 13, 2017 10:51 AM (TisfY)
Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (XTiHL)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:15 AM (2DOZq)
Exactly. He was never anything but smug and dismissive.
And whenever he was called out to actually put forth an actual opinion instead of just dismissing everybody else's as beneath contempt, he said "Why should I have to?"
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (zy+gb)
I get what you are saying. Without the (probably) BS "pedo" charge, he wins in a walk. But the accusation came out and shone a light on his other weaknesses.
I think the GOPe is a fraud, but we also dodged a bullet because the media and Dems can't make Judge Moore the face of the GOP.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (7uYFy)
Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2017 10:48 AM (XTiHL)
************
Bingo!
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (zy+gb)
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:43 AM (lKmt3)
What proof do you have that he did that? He denied that he did so, at least towards the end, and I've seen no proof that he ever did. You are stating as fact a matter which is, at most, an assertion.
I want some freaking credit here. *Gondor beacons are lit level virtue signaling commences*
Roy Moore would have me jailed. That is not an overstatement on my part. He would.
And I still will defend him from being the subject of 40 year old accusations that are non falsifiable because that is *wrong*. It's wrong to be done to anyone, anyone at all, and I, for one, will not sit here and let such matters go by even when the person being attacked would have no compunction in the slightest about using the force of the state against me.
Stop asserting allegations as fact. They are allegations, nothing more.
I'm sorry but the glee with which many who purportedly believe in due process are willing to heave it out the window because ew that person is icky is alarming.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Sharkman at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (dDMQ9)
And it's surprisingly refreshing!
Posted by: Mitt "Try anything once" Romney at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (RD7QR)
Just keep on keeping on.
After all, we are not a bunch of Progressive hysterics.
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (zSVEm)
No need for any lame replies.
Mitch McTurtle
Posted by: sofa saver
__________
I honestly would have preferred McConnell had "picked" our Senate candidate this time. Remember, Trump endorsed Strange also.
So if we are now at war with Trump also, are we now just going to back Roy Moore type idiots?
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (G/kZc)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe today! Covfefe tomorrow! Covfefe forever! at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (ZM2xo)
They didn't vote for a commie baby killer. They simply didn't vote. Look at the stats that were posted in the comments this morning, Moore received only half of the votes Trump did, and Jones received about the same amount as Hillary.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (VSya6)
. . .
I don't like McConnell. But if halting Obama's last Supreme Court nomination and getting Gorsuch confirmed does not count as delivering a win for the base, nothing ever will.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (ppBhU)
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (sX1BW)
The last year my wife worked we did not make $250,000 with me working 100 hour weeks and getting OT then.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 10:54 AM (sddQQ)
If you're not the GOPe candidate, you're not going to get any support from the party -- moral or economic.
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That doesn't mean his hand is strengthened. Nor is it 100% accurate. Cruz was not GOPe candidate. He got support and will get more. Some insurgent candidates are better than others. Moore was a bad one. Now that doesn't mean the base should always yield to GOPe just to win a seat.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:54 AM (sX1BW)
In fairness, people being experts on conservatives in blue state who probably could find the states but also have zero knowledge of the inner political workings is pretty much a permanent feature of this place. Just your brief turn in the barrel.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 10:54 AM (/tuJf)
the establishment shouldn't be the ONLY strategy. Nominating fools
doesn't help either. It was a miracle that Trump won. Not only is this a
once in a lifetime opportunity it's the LAST chance we've got to save
the country. I'm not sure about you but I didn't vote for President Sick
Twitter Burn, I voted for him to do thew shit he said he would do. It's
all over if 2020 comes around and tweets is all he has to show for his
first term. Nobody is going to turn out for him.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:47 AM (UBzPO)
Well, so far the establishment types beeen fighting Trump , the "scandals" around Moore showed up when there was no other alternative left.Then the smug-publicans pretended "it's not a binary" choice, when it deadly is.
Posted by: rifraf at December 13, 2017 10:54 AM (RiEBD)
He's like a retarded child who thinks that repeating the same thing over and over again is as amusing to everyone else as it is to him. See also "Bannon... smoothies! Haha"
Speaking of which, it's interesting that in his absence people are picking up the slack by making personal comments about Bannon. But at least they're adding a bit of variety.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 10:54 AM (/qEW2)
203 BSG funny or witty? Never has been in my opinion. He is an unfunny contrarian troll.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 10:15 AM (2DOZq)
Exactly. He was never anything but smug and dismissive.
And whenever he was called out to actually put forth an actual opinion instead of just dismissing everybody else's as beneath contempt, he said "Why should I have to?"
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (WDCYi)
I have the same view of BSG as I did of chemjeff...
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 10:54 AM (zSVEm)
Trump is not a fool. Be may act like a buffoon at times, but that's only an act.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 13, 2017 10:49 AM (pKqmv)
25% of Trump's term as President has now past. What does he have to show for that besides Gorsuch? Now he's weaker in Congress than when he was inaugurated.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:55 AM (UBzPO)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 10:55 AM (281xQ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:55 AM (oVJmc)
While the WaPo basically cost Moore the election, the nimrod certainly dug the hole he was in deeper.
I listened to the interview Hannity did with Moore right after the allegations came out and I was stunned by how poorly Moore handled himself. Hannity was certainly not out to get him. He was asking reasonable questions and Moore sounded - during that interview - like he was lying. Now certainly if I was being asked questions about stuff that occurred 40 years ago, I'd contradict myself too, but these were serious charges and you'd think a guy who made it through law school, for God's sake, would be better equipped to handle them.
I don't remember "racism" coming into it until Moore made that comment about how families were together during slavery times. That is how you motivate black Dems to go to the polls. yeah, the Dems play the race card - that doesn't mean you pull the card out and hand it to them.
Then there were other comments - the one about how homosexuality should be illegal, for instance. It's one thing to say you oppose trannies in girls bathrooms or gay marriage. Saying you want to ban homosexuality is quite another.
Those were unforced errors and I'm sure there were others. I'm very sorry he didn't win but that doesn't negate the fact that he was an awful, awful candidate.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (ZM2xo)
The same discomfort that forty percent face every time they hear or see Trump.
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (zy+gb)
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I fail to see how.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:50 AM (sX1BW)
His hand is strengthened because he now indisputably has the power to choose the candidates. Don't you realize Trump knows this now? He blames Bannon.
Bannon should stay behind the scenes. He shouldn't be the face of the movement.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (7uYFy)
Posted by: cfo mom at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (RfzVr)
He's like a retarded child who thinks that repeating the same thing
over and over again is as amusing to everyone else as it is to him. See
also "Bannon... smoothies! Haha"
The speech impediment thing, too-- jeez, idiot, pick a target and a trait that people are actually aware of.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (oVJmc)
I'm sorry but the glee with which many who purportedly believe in due process are willing to heave it out the window because ew that person is icky is alarming.
. . .
I don't credit the more alarming accusations against Moore, but Moore was very wobbly on the teen-dating allegations in his Hannity interview. (Not that I'm personally bothered by those allegations overmuch.)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (ppBhU)
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (sddQQ)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 10:55 AM (281xQ)
Open primaries explain a lot of this. When your opponent has a say in who he runs against it behooves him to promote the clowniest clowns available.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (ILitO)
If you asked someone if they dated teens, and they said "no, generally not," would that count as a denial to you, or an evasion? If the latter, would that evasiveness play into your evaluation of the man's suitability as a candidate?
Also, McDonalds has re-introduced the McRib.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (Bdeb0)
Then there were other comments - the one about how homosexuality should be illegal, for instance. It's one thing to say you oppose trannies in girls bathrooms or gay marriage. Saying you want to ban homosexuality is quite another.
Those were unforced errors and I'm sure there were others. I'm very sorry he didn't win but that doesn't negate the fact that he was an awful, awful candidate.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM
Spot on.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (7uYFy)
Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (nbwH3)
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Here's why? I think those wins were expected. You don't get credit for beating Vanderbilt. That's expected.
That being said, I do think holding the line during the election year was actually well done. Confirming Gorsuch though - that should have been easy. You had a majority and you were replacing Scalia's seat. Had it been a liberal seat, then it would have been a bigger win.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (mf5HN)
To be fair, I would have you jailed as well, but for different reasons.
http://tinyurl.com/ybwa88ld
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (wYseH)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (mf5HN)"
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I know I'm a little slow on the uptake, ATC, but why would Moore have you jailed?
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (sZs9g)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 10:58 AM (iS/NP)
. . .
I don't like McConnell. But if halting Obama's last Supreme Court nomination and getting Gorsuch confirmed does not count as delivering a win for the base, nothing ever will.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at December 13, 2017 10:53 AM (ppBhU)
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McConnell opposed Garland because he fully expected Hillary Clinton to win. THAT was his calculation, wrong though it ended up being.
McConnell's entire MO is to appear enough of a conservative to keep the rubes at bay.
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 10:58 AM (Rh8KC)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 10:55 AM (UBzPO)
He's named many more federal judges than Obama did at this point in his presidency. He opened up Keystone and other sites for drilling. He's cut back on regulations, which has helped make the stock market boom. Looked at your 401K lately?
He's actually done quite a bit.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:58 AM (ZM2xo)
Posted by: Piercello at December 13, 2017 10:58 AM (TOLnE)
Stop asserting allegations as fact. They are allegations, nothing more.
I'm sorry but the glee with which many who purportedly believe in
due process are willing to heave it out the window because ew that
person is icky is alarming.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 10:52 AM (mf5HN)
The virtue signaling right think the smuggness will save them somehow.
Posted by: rifraf at December 13, 2017 10:58 AM (RiEBD)
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What if the base disagrees again in the next election? Can't we also assume, he knows he must deliver a somewhat more palatable candidate to the base next time?
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (sX1BW)
We're all unwitty trolls.
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM (sddQQ)
I only look a little trollish, dammit!
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (RD7QR)
Here is a picture for Her Imperial Malevolence and for the rest of the Horde - actress Thelma Todd in Speak Easily wearing what is called a "Eugenie" hat while she vamps Buster Keaton and Jimmy Durante:
https://tinyurl.com/y8fuysot
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (kqsXK)
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (sZs9g)
Moore said homosexuality should be illegal.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (ZM2xo)
He hates the wee folk.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (oVJmc)
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That isn't that hard to do with two working spouses.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 10:42 AM (sX1BW)
None of the married couples I know personally come even close to making 6 figures, even combined.
But then, jobs don't pay as much here as they would in other areas, as far as I can tell.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Ruthless at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (fkNSY)
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 09:47 AM (WDCYi)
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The good news is that by 2020, he'll have to defend his lefty Senate voting record in Alabama.
So long as the Republicans don't put up another loon, the seat should return to the red column in a couple years.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (fqUgw)
I'm done with "kamikaze" candidates. Going kamikaze
Posted by: Maritime
I'm done with the lies about the race in 2010. The leading candidate ran a terrible campaign, said and did things before the primary that was insane, and went negative. All in a primary season that had already seen two favored candidates, including one incumbent Senator lose.
It's the fault of no one but Castle that he ran his mouth about carbon taxes two days before his primary. There's a kamikaze run. Combined with arrogance.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (326rv)
I should be getting my cookbook today, having ordered back on the 7th for today delivery, but they didn't even bother to ship until last night! Won't get it until Friday...if then.
Customer "Service" person barely speaks or understands English.
Eff you, Jeff Bezos.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: alexthechick
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So you think we should take Bill Clinton's side with the Juanita Broderick accusation because we don't have video proof?
Roy Moore admitted to dating high school aged women with his interview with Hannity when he was in his 30s. That confession is when it was over. So now he's making the case that yes he did engage in dating OTHER girls around that age, but this particular girl was lying about it.
That right there makes him a creep and that's why he lost. I don't give a shit what the "law" says on that and age of consent, going to Swingers parties is also "legal", an over the top Social Conservative engaging in that is sickening and just painted him as a fraud.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (G/kZc)
Those were unforced errors and I'm sure there were others. I'm very sorry he didn't win but that doesn't negate the fact that he was an awful, awful candidate.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:56 AM"
Oops, nevermind ATC. I didn't realize Moore had said that. What a stupid yutz.
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (sZs9g)
Why is it ok to do this to white Christian men? No way in hell this happens to any other group, why? And why don't other white Christian men have the backbone to stick up for their group being repeatedly labeled as pedophiles?
Sick of this bullshit.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (g4lFK)
You know who Christine O'Donnell is the fault of? The Delaware GOP. You know why? Because in all the years prior to 2010 they had no problem letting her be their choice of candidates in elections they were just willing to let the democrat win in anyways rather than seeking out better viable options that might win. So when 2010 rolls around she looked like a legitimate option in a year where it was blatantly obvious to everyone without their head up their ass that the GOP electorate was heavily anti-establishment, and the Delaware GOP tried to push their most heavily establishment guy into that seat.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (cAnNx)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (281xQ)
No, it's not like O'Donnell at all. Moore was a known, popular quantity in Alabama with a rich history of pissing off liberals. At the time he won the primary there were no accusations against him at all; those conveniently didn't surface until after he'd won the primary and the GOP was no longer able to amend the ballot. It's ratfucking all the way down.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (3J/LN)
Yeah Roy Moore is practically like a radical muslim. Gimme a break.
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (sddQQ)
That's why we're rubes.
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 11:01 AM (Rh8KC)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 13, 2017 11:01 AM (EyPfd)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2017 11:01 AM (IqV8l)
Also, McDonalds has re-introduced the McRib.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (Bdeb0)
That's why I added the at least at the end. IIRC, and I may not because I stopped listening to all the yelping, Moore denied that he ever dated a teenager as an adult.
I'm not addressing whether Moore is a decent candidate. I mean, my opinion on that is worthless because a. I don't live in Alabama and II. of course I wouldn't think so for the obvious reasons.
I'm just getting all Hordespergery over the treatment of accusations as fact. If someone finds them credible, hey, fine. But that still doesn't make an accusation a fact.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 11:01 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (ZM2xo)
They didn't vote for a commie baby killer. They simply didn't vote.
No vote is a vote.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (ftdxp)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (EyPfd)
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (sZs9g)
She is a Cleveland Browns fan...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (wYseH)
==
it was one of many things I think, people are not stupid, no matter how many times they hear "she was legal !" and "her momma approved !" gets bandied about
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (iS/NP)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 10:55 AM (281xQ)
NV is a blue State now and not winnable by Republicans. You can thank the casino unions and the FSA in the tribes for that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (kNasr)
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Moore said on camera in an interview that he thought homosexuality should be criminalized.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (G/kZc)
I hate that Alabama gets to screw me just like the voters of Kentucky get to screw me.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (2DOZq)
I wonder if those women would want to be questioned under oath like Flynn was.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 13, 2017 11:03 AM (ILitO)
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 11:03 AM (cAnNx)
Posted by: CN at December 13, 2017 11:03 AM (5gaNQ)
If the establishment is trying to destroy this country, giving it the middle finger isn't a "strategy". It's a necessity for anyone with integrity.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 11:03 AM (/qEW2)
He's actually done quite a bit.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 10:58 AM (ZM2xo)
I've said it here many times before but he's making another mistake taking credit for the stock market. It's in an all-time historical bubble and odds are it will pop before 2020. 30-40% downside is not out of the question when it blows. He'll take 100% of the blame too only because he's taken 100% credit for the increase.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 11:03 AM (UBzPO)
At Insty's place.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (EyPfd)
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Really? That's nice! I'll have to alert Weasel to look at the numbers.
Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (kNasr)
Would seem fair.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (EyPfd)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (281xQ)
I'm breathlessly waiting Trumps response.
Posted by: Javems at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (yOqwj)
Minnesota Gov. names Tina Smith to replace Franken. Is that Dr. Smith's daughter. Oh the pain the pain of it all
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (493sH)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (oVJmc)
I can easily envision a conversation with Trump where he says, "Leave the Senate races to ME and I'll support your legislation." And Trump will because he's a dealmaker.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (7uYFy)
Then there were other comments - the one about how homosexuality should be illegal, for instance. It's one thing to say you oppose trannies in girls bathrooms or gay marriage. Saying you want to ban homosexuality is quite another.
Those were unforced errors and I'm sure there were others. I'm very sorry he didn't win but that doesn't negate the fact that he was an awful, awful candidate.
Posted by: Donna and V
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What Bannon should have done on day one was take Moore on a retreat with a speech coach and teach him the art of comely subterfuge.
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (zy+gb)
Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (kNasr)
Posted by: Ruthless at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (fkNSY)
And the Families that make this much will likely get crushed by the lost Mortgage Deuction and Property Tax write-offs...
If a Tax Plan is Revenue Neutral it CANNOT be a Tax Cut.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (XHDFG)
Suppose Moore had repudiated his past. There was no getting passed the underage near-rape allegations, but the more credible allegations of pursuing teen girls while in his thirties might have been addressed by a statement of contrition with a statement that he had matured passed that stage and remained loyal to his wife and family.
Are we ever allowed redemption? Or is it always and forever assumed that whatever we were at one point in our lives, that's the person we have to be forever. If no one can ever change, then there is no redemption. Whatever, whoever we were at the lowest point in our lives is the person we are forever.
So sayeth Twitter, the media, and the political class.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: buzzion
This too. If that jackass Castle had bothered to campaign and put out signs, he could have cruised. The state party anointed him, and when O'Donnell made the challenge, the powers that be went hostile. That made her sympathetic.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (326rv)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (281xQ)
Cooper deleted the tweet and said his account was hacked.
The funniest response by far is "Anderson, were you drinking with George Takei last night?".
Posted by: Ian S. at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (3J/LN)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (XHDFG)
He was responding to the recent Lawrence vs Texas ruling.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (2DOZq)
What the blue bl@zing h3ll, Amazon?
Not the first time this year this has happened, either.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (AM1GF)
Minnesota Gov. names Tina Smith to replace Franken. Is that Dr. Smith's daughter. Oh the pain the pain of it all
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (493sH)
Would have been funnier if he had named Tina Fey...
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (k1TUh)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (281xQ)"
The gay community is larger in Alabama than most people think. In my experience families aren't really keen on having people imprisoned over something they have no control over, even in rural Alabama. Saying homosexuality should be illegal probably cost him another 10K+.
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (sZs9g)
https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/940853280414027776
Posted by: andycanuck at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (QCX64)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (r9UYA)
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 10:57 AM (sZs9g)
She is a Cleveland Browns fan...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (wYseH)
Is there a betting pool on when Josh Gordon gets suspended again because he can't say no to that sweet sweet Mary Jane?
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (cAnNx)
in Alabama with a rich history of pissing off liberals.
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He certainly helped liberal/left turnout yesterday.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (5NMZN)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (UBzPO)
It can't under a static model. It absolutely can if you believe that tax cuts spur economic activity and thus still bring in the same or even more tax dollars.
And how's your dad?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM
. . .
I don't know that it made Moore "stupid," just past his expiration date politically speaking. Lawrence v. Texas (striking down my home state's homosexual sodomy statute) was decided in 2003. There's a lot of folks - older folks especially - who believed homosexuality should be illegal.
That's not a defense, just context. The country Moore grew up in was a different place.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (ppBhU)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (281xQ)
Oh so you've seen Yahoo's front page. Election is ominous sign for Republicans and sends them a loud warning!!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (493sH)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (281xQ)
In ALABAMA....
Posted by: JoeF. at December 13, 2017 11:08 AM (7uYFy)
Posted by: buzzion
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The people that were full of shit are the people that were saying Moore was going to win by 15 points.
Or that a 30+ year old prosecutor preying on high school aged girls was no big deal.
But heaven forbid someone sees a comment they disagree with here, we need to keep the circle jerk going.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 11:08 AM (G/kZc)
Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 13, 2017 11:08 AM (kNasr)
No, but I do believe that we should state that Juanita Broderick has accused Bill Clinton of rape, not that Clinton raped her. Remember, I loathe Bill Clinton on a cellular level and have done so since he was governor so it's not like I'm a Clinton apologist. But I do care about the difference between accusations and facts. It is not an established fact that Clinton raped Broaderick. It's just not.
Roy Moore admitted to dating high school aged women with his interview with Hannity when he was in his 30s. That confession is when it was over. So now he's making the case that yes he did engage in dating OTHER girls around that age, but this particular girl was lying about it.
That right there makes him a creep and that's why he lost. I don't give a shit what the "law" says on that and age of consent, going to Swingers parties is also "legal", an over the top Social Conservative engaging in that is sickening and just painted him as a fraud.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 10:59 AM (G/kZc)
I don't believe that the comment in the Hannity interview was a blanket confession but that is just my opinion. As I noted, Moore made a more definitive statement recently denying that he ever did so.
Again, you are fee to feel Moore is a creep and a jerk. You are free to believe the allegations are credible. You are free to believe he is lying about not dating teenagers as an adult. But what you are not free to do is state definitively that the allegations have been proven because they have not nor has Moore confessed to them.
That is the point over which I am obsessing because it's an important point.
And, as I noted, I am point blank trying to prove my own credibility on this by applying that position consistently towards a person for whom I bear no positive will at all.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 11:08 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 11:08 AM (zSVEm)
I am done with Salem Radio except for Gallagher. Hannity is a wimp, Hugh Hewitt endorsed Doug Jones, as did Medved. Larry Elder too
Posted by: Donny at December 13, 2017 11:08 AM (HrSJb)
Last night was ugly all 'round.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (6FqZa)
Our government has them under a worse form of slavery. This was his obvious point if conservatives did not clutch their white pearls and faint on their couch filled with white guilt.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (g4lFK)
I'm breathlessly waiting Trumps response.
Posted by: Javems at December 13, 2017 11:04 AM (yOqwj)
USA Today also said Trump isn't fit to scrub the toilets at the Obamaam Presidential Library. Hope he shoots back at that.
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (7HtZB)
So sayeth Twitter, the media, and the political class.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (O7MnT)
Unless you run for office as a Democrat. Then it's a resume enhancer.
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (sZs9g)
. . .
Because she bewitched them?
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (ppBhU)
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I agree, which is why I don't think this necessarily strengthens his hand. He now has reason to know that he must cater to the base more than he has because it could cost him a seat.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (sX1BW)
Good thanks. He had double knee replacement last winter and one of the replacement knees failed/had issues.
Got it repaired yesterday...shoould be home by tonight.
>>It absolutely can if you believe that tax cuts spur economic activity and thus still bring in the same or even more tax dollars.
True.
But, without spending cuts we are just pissing in the wind.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (XHDFG)
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (Rh8KC)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 11:06 AM (k1TUh)
Bullshit.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: billo at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (0zk9G)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (281xQ)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:00 AM (281xQ)
which is why Jones ad about a black man dating teenagers would have gotten him jail or elected question was so effective. They already think that judges and the law are on the side of whitey and why give this throwback to 1965 a Senate seat.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (VSya6)
Also... lawyer, with actual ethics. You sound like my mom. (Compliment, btw.)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (6FqZa)
Silence, you bubble-headed boobie!
Posted by: Dr. Smith at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (zmvwV)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (XHDFG)
But, without spending cuts we are just pissing in the wind.
No argument there. Not seeing how that happens with the current Congressional configuration.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (/tuJf)
I foresee a Hitler learns he has lost the Senate Downfall in the future.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (QQ+il)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Ruthless at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (fkNSY)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 11:03 AM (/qEW2)
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Thank you. If the candidate can't do that he's not a Trumpian and will be rolled soon after he's sworn in;
that is if he's not a collaborator already.
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (zy+gb)
The problem with Roy Moore is that he was more a "brand" than a living, breathing candidate.
Just like that cowboy hat wearing idiot in the news a couple of weeks. "Who're you voting for?" "The woman in the cowboy hat!!!!"
So, RM was the Dancing Mr Six Flags of Alabama Conservatism.
What the Democrats were smart enough to do was say (in essence) Yeah, you like Dancing Mr Six Flags. But, what's he really like in private?
and made the race about that.
And Roy Moore wasn't smart enough to work past that, he thought being Dancing Mr Six Flags was enough.
That said, if Bannon was half as smart as he thinks he is. He would've flooded the zone with 'icky' stories about the Dim candidate and that would've brought the race back into politics because the personality issue was poison for both.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (9q7Dl)
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are you an Alabama voter/resident ? don't have to answer if you don't want to or can't, just curious
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 11:12 AM (iS/NP)
You appear to be happy Moore lost also.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:12 AM (2DOZq)
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I agree, which is why I don't think this necessarily strengthens his hand. He now has reason to know that he must cater to the base more than he has because it could cost him a seat.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (sX1BW)
Unfortunately, he knows also that he has to cater to the Dems to get anything done. When you don't have all the ducks lined up like Schumer does, he will have to let the Rino's in the party have something that makes their Dem friends happy in order to get them to vote yes.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 11:12 AM (VSya6)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 11:13 AM (h/uSM)
Posted by: E.T. at December 13, 2017 11:13 AM (P1GJy)
I love you guys, but this is the dumbest infighting bull$#!+.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 11:13 AM (AM1GF)
Acceptable. Your discernment will also lead you to hold in the same contempt an evasion masquerading as a denial.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 11:14 AM (Bdeb0)
and the MFM aims to keep it that way.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 11:14 AM (QQ+il)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 11:11 AM (XHDFG)
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Ah! I thought it was because I was worried you had been kidnaped and were being spoofed by someone capitalizing your name.
Knees are tricky business. I hope this repair is the end of trouble for him with this.
Posted by: bluebell ~ get cooking, Horde! at December 13, 2017 11:14 AM (kNasr)
So sayeth Twitter, the media, and the political class.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (O7MnT)
You're only as good as your weakest moment.
Twitter will make sure of that.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 11:14 AM (WDCYi)
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Of course that isn't a new development. Just makes it harder with fewer seats. So next time does McConnell want to risk going from 51 to 50 just to avoid having a conservative rebble rouser? In AL he assumed he would win, so it was worth the risk. Can be so sure now?
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 11:14 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Maritime
Heaven forbid you tell the truth about what happened in Delaware in 2010. Instead, keep doing Mitch's good work.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 13, 2017 11:14 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 11:14 AM (r9UYA)
Well, Mr Brightside tells me we at least escape the Moore = Trump correlation.
It does take a bite out of the Dems plans in that way.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (XHDFG)
She's suffered enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (/tuJf)
Damn. My condolences, ATC.
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (sZs9g)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (BPzCo)
Even the horse wanted nothing to do with Moore.
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (sddQQ)
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Well, I am not shedding tears about his loss, so what about it ? A lot of unpleasant and negative did not come from past allegations, it came out of his own mouth in recent interviews.
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (iS/NP)
What will not fade to black is an Alabama senator who is pro choice, for limiting 2nd Amendment rights and voting against conservative legislation and conservative judicial nominees.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (2DOZq)
Silence, you bubble-headed boobie!
Posted by: Dr. Smith
Dr. Smith's Insults
http://irwinallen.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Smith's_Insults
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (IqV8l)
There *was* a flood for a while concerning the Dem's support for dismembering a baby even while it's being born, but the media tamped it down like the pros they are, and the "conservative media" was too busy handwaving about Moore to amplify it.
For me, Moore was marginal on another axis: he's 70. The Democrats are the ones who run all senior citizens all the time, I want new GOP Senators to be young, tanned, and rested.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (3J/LN)
Last night was ugly all 'round.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (6FqZa)
Eh, then maybe it's a good thing that I was busy last night. Honestly, I think I'm going to pick a long novel to slog through and forget about politics until the new year.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (RD7QR)
Fox Business has been showing Strzk's text messages. Just the man to put on the Hillary emails. He's soooo unbiased.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (493sH)
Did you see that horse? Hideous. And it behaved like it never had a human on its back.
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (sddQQ)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (iS/NP)
Good God, he had to have known that the 13th amendment says "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime wherof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States."
Seriously, Moore is on record as saying he wanted to get rid of that amendment. I hate that the Democrat won, but Moore would have been an ongoing nightmare.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (k1TUh)
I can easily envision a conversation with Trump where he says, "Leave the Senate races to ME and I'll support your legislation." And Trump will because he's a dealmaker.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 13, 2017 11:05 AM (7uYFy)
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Which means , absent his terms, citizens be damned, he is willing to throw it all away. Which exactly what he did with Moore.
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (Rh8KC)
Posted by: Zod
Undoubtedly. I suspect AtC's clumsiness stems from constant twitchiness over the weight of pure bull$#!+ in the public sphere these days.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Ruthless at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (fkNSY)
THIS thread.
I just discovered the worst thing about Moore losing: Teh Rick Wilson (friend of the blog) thinks that it is a win for him.
Posted by: blaster at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (WonQS)
Posted by: MAGA
This. And he has useful idiots claiming that it's the fault of the peasants.
A pretty nice gig.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (326rv)
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Well, I am not shedding tears about his loss, so what about it ? A lot of unpleasant and negative did not come from past allegations, it came out of his own mouth in recent interviews.
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I'm indifferent - which is how I would have felt had he won. Bottom line, we don't know how this will play out. I think this election is more of an anomaly than a trend, but time will tell if that is true.
Posted by: SH at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (sX1BW)
What will not fade to black is an Alabama senator who is pro choice, for limiting 2nd Amendment rights and voting against conservative legislation and conservative judicial nominees.
Yeah, but the important thing is, Mitch McConnell taught those dissidents a lesson. Only candidates selected by the Party elite will be allowed to win.
Those agenda items are just details.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Ricardo Maldovan at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I wasn't aware that the gay wars had been ceded.
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (zy+gb)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (BPzCo)
Only I have to deal with the consequences of voters from Alabama. We will see if they are significant.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (QQ+il)
____________________
That woman lawyer he was banging is seriously fugly, with a smile like Mr. Ed's.
Must have been all the Trump-hate that attracted him.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (fqUgw)
Radio sucks today so there is CSPAN with the grilling of Rosenstien right now.
Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (XTiHL)
Session will never appoint another SC. Sessions is a swamp creature and worthless. fire him already
Posted by: Donny at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (HrSJb)
Because yeah, his loss is totally going to mean that Democrats will never bring him up again.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Blue Hen
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Clearly the right choice was backing the Republican candidate that wanted a national conversation about masturbation and witchcraft.
Posted by: Maritime at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (lKmt3)
436 If you asked someone if they dated teens, and they said "no, generally not,"
==
it was one of many things I think, people are not stupid, no matter how many times they hear "she was legal !" and "her momma approved !" gets bandied about
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 11:02 AM (iS/NP)
Exactly. Can I ask the moms and dads here what they would have thought if a 30 year old man expressed interest in dating their 16 or 17 year old daughter?
Yes, it was common throughout most of history for older men to marry girls in their teens (Just read "Gone With the Wind.") Remember, throughout most of history those 16 year old girls would have been chaperoned and watched like hawks when they were being courted. Again, recall that in GWTW, Rhett "ruined" a Charleston girl because he took her out for an chaperoned buggy ride. I think that's probably an accurate description of how those things worked back in the day.
My grandfather (born in 1870) married my grandmother (born in 1999) in 1915. One of the products of their union was my dad, who would have chased a 30 year old man down the street with a shotgun if he had turned up on our doorstep wanting to take me to the movies in 1976.
Saying "momma approved" just makes people wonder about that momma.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (ZM2xo)
Last night was ugly all 'round.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (6FqZa)
Grande seemed like the Tomato Sock, what with the massive axe to grind against Bannon.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (mpXpK)
484 I thought ZhMIL last night was a sock trying to get BSG in trouble here, not BSG himself. Although I thoroughly supported flushing ZhMIL.
Last night was ugly all 'round.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (6FqZa)
Eh, then maybe it's a good thing that I was busy last night. Honestly, I think I'm going to pick a long novel to slog through and forget about politics until the new year.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (RD7QR)
Joncelli, I will spend the next day or two listening to a lot of music... it is a great mood adjuster for me, always has been effective.
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (zSVEm)
I love you guys, but this is the dumbest infighting bull$#!+.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 11:13 AM (AM1GF)
Gotta go to the mattresses every 5 years, every 10 years. Gets the bad blood out.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (RD7QR)
Twitter will make sure of that.
I can't wait for Twitter to switch on Global Badthink Awareness on Monday. I think it's at least even odds that if you have the HQ in your browser history it will immediately lifetime ban you.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (3J/LN)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 11:19 AM (/tuJf)
What will not fade to black is an Alabama
senator who is pro choice, for limiting 2nd Amendment rights and voting
against conservative legislation and conservative judicial nominees.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:15 AM (2DOZq)
But the virtue of smug will shine.
Posted by: rifraf at December 13, 2017 11:19 AM (RiEBD)
With a face like that...
you know she gives up the butt.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 11:19 AM (XHDFG)
Everyone knew from day one that Mueller was going after Trump. Mark Levin said it in his broadcast on November 10, 2016. It's on YouTube FFS!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at December 13, 2017 11:19 AM (2X7pN)
484 I thought ZhMIL last night was a sock trying to get BSG in trouble here, not BSG himself. Although I thoroughly supported flushing ZhMIL.
Last night was ugly all 'round.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:09 AM (6FqZa)
Eh, then maybe it's a good thing that I was busy last night. Honestly, I think I'm going to pick a long novel to slog through and forget about politics until the new year.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 11:16 AM (RD7QR)
Joncelli, I will spend the next day or two listening to a lot of music... it is a great mood adjuster for me, always has been effective.
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (zSVEm)
Baroque always works for me. There's so much balance and beauty there that it stabilizes the mind and mood.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 11:19 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Ruthless at December 13, 2017 11:20 AM (fkNSY)
The squealing outrage that would've resulted from a full-on Ghey Gulag would've been sublime. Damn the luck.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 11:20 AM (Bdeb0)
And by something that means all I have to which to cling.
Presume link to Factory of Sadness video here.
Also... lawyer, with actual ethics. You sound like my mom. (Compliment, btw.)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 13, 2017 11:10 AM (6FqZa)
Thank you very much.
RE: Evasions as denials. Oh, it's absolutely fine to note that an evasion is not a denial and make an evaluation as to the credibility of an allegation on those grounds. That's still an evaluation of credibility though, not a definitive determination.
Annnnnd I'm stopping now because all much as I love the sound of my own typing I'm starting to bore even me.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 11:20 AM (mf5HN)
Your grandmother is a time traveler?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:20 AM (493sH)
Once the Supreme Court came down in favor of gay marriage, that battle was over. Conservatives lost, the gay activist position won everything they wanted. Fight's over.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 11:21 AM (k1TUh)
That's politics. And quite frankly, politics as usual, so no sizzle in that steak. Plus, it's not personal.
I mean, he needed to have someone old boy from Jones hometown talk about how he caught Jones fucking a horse thirty years ago. Something like that.
And then let others come out with their stories of Young Jones, Chickenfucker.
Icky stuff and repulsive to women.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2017 11:21 AM (9q7Dl)
Twitter will make sure of that.
I can't wait for Twitter to switch on Global Badthink Awareness on Monday. I think it's at least even odds that if you have the HQ in your browser history it will immediately lifetime ban you.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 13, 2017 11:18 AM (3J/LN)
Gab.ai sent out an email using this as a selling point -- pretty clever, IMHO. I need to hang out there more often.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 11:21 AM (RD7QR)
Opps, I meant an unchaperoned buggy ride.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 11:21 AM (ZM2xo)
Your grandmother is a time traveler?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:20 AM (493sH)
Or his grandfather is a Highlander.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 11:22 AM (WDCYi)
Your grandmother is a time traveler?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:20 AM (493sH)
LOL! All kinds of typos today! 1899!
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 11:22 AM (ZM2xo)
Posted by: Maritime
Clearly to you the right choice was spouting carbon tax bullshit two days before the primary.
Lie all you want.
He was challenged and proceeded to run a terrible primary campaign, and got his ass handed to him.
He was soooo SMRT and she was sooooo stupid....And she beat him by 7%. Due in part to her talking like a Republican and Castle demanding his crown. But all you'll ever say is witchcraft.
Which is partly how Trump beat 16 rivals. Clearly the right choice was attacking her and not campaigning.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 13, 2017 11:22 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 11:21 AM (k1TUh)
Nope, it's never over. They will keep demanding more and more. The left never wins something and is satisfied with it. It's just one more step in their never ending march
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:23 AM (493sH)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 11:12 AM (iS/NP)
No , I'm in Michigan. And I recognize the mutual problems with elections that both the states have.
Blue cities with large majorities of minorities whose ancestors moved there for now defunct industries or left wingers due to universities or tech type of companies. Which overrule the thousands of square miles of red voters in the rest of the state.
As I posted last night, Michigan has a Rep Gov, Rep legislature, the majority of the land mass of Michigan votes republican and yet has two Dem Senators.
The Republican party in Michigan has put up pathetically weak Senate candidates for years who get destroyed with little effort in the general election. I'm hoping 2018 is a different year, as we have stronger candidates who are running, no thanks to the party. I mentioned John Jones, who is running and whom I am currently supporting . Amazing resume, conservative, veteran, businessman, MBA, and black. Lots of appeal to a broad spectrum of voters.
I know people from Alabama and Mr. Jen has frequent business trips there. Alabama citizens are not a cohesive group of Honey Boo Boo toothless Bible thumping hillbillies. That's why they voted overwhelmingly for a NY real estate developer whose policies aligned with theirs.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 11:23 AM (VSya6)
I want to love Gab, but literally every 3rd post there seems to be something Stormfronty about killing all the Joooos.
Perhaps with an influx of AoSHQ peeps those guys will feel less welcome.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 13, 2017 11:23 AM (3J/LN)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 13, 2017 11:07 AM (r9UYA)
Russia had a hold ovah Moldova.
Posted by: Hands at December 13, 2017 11:23 AM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Ruthless at December 13, 2017 11:24 AM (fkNSY)
gosh darn spiells musta known that ET was herms and EL ee ote got all preggers. 6 weeks later allien powers creates baby adam schiff. well gosh darn it.
all models were 18 swersies
Posted by: azalea city at December 13, 2017 11:24 AM (WX+x0)
A corrupt FBI, a wimpy AG, fox in the Henhouse Rosenstein?
Posted by: Donny at December 13, 2017 11:24 AM (HrSJb)
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at December 13, 2017 11:24 AM (2X7pN)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (QQ+il)
How many times did you vote? I blame you if it was less than 3.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 11:24 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 09:46 AM (ZM2xo)
You know why? Because the average rank and file republican is an asshole, a fucking asshole. I voted republican my whole life, been around them my whole life, and most are assholes.
From my uncle, when viewing a group shot of a major label metal band I was in says "I wouldn't hire them", as if we do fucking birthday parties.
to Rush fat fuck lumbaugh, who calls me a long hair dope smoking FM type
To the local politicians who accused heavy metal listeners of knocking over tomb stones in the local cemetery.
To the ones who think every dude with a Harley is a hell's angel.
To the absolute law and order types that slowly turn the police into the next Stasi
and on, and on , and on
face it, most are self righteous Thurston howell III type of country club republican fags who step out of the shower to pee. Highly judgmental, they worry about decorum, they vote their "conscience", and would sell out their country if the dude running for office uses the wrong fucking fork at a stuffy dinner.
THATS what voted in Alabama.
People here are conservatives, there is a difference, probably why I like it here. Not so big on decorum, but really big on crushing the country's enemies before them and hearing the lamentation of their woman. There wasn't enough of us in Alabama. That's what happened.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 13, 2017 11:26 AM (aMlLZ)
Must have been all the Trump-hate that attracted him.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 13, 2017 11:17 AM (fqUgw)
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the 'i'd say anything to get into her panties' defense is not going to fly.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 11:26 AM (h/uSM)
The GOP will fold as usual
Posted by: Donny at December 13, 2017 11:26 AM (HrSJb)
Once the Supreme Court came down in favor of gay marriage, that battle was over. Conservatives lost, the gay activist position won everything they wanted. Fight's over.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Just because SCOTUS rules doesn't mean it's over.
If it's over our culture is over, might as well quit and bend over for Mitch -e.
Posted by: gNewt at December 13, 2017 11:26 AM (zy+gb)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 11:27 AM (AM1GF)
They want PC and profits. Do not rock the boat. give us Tax Cuts, but cave on abortion
Posted by: Donny at December 13, 2017 11:28 AM (HrSJb)
For those who have the sadz today, I suggest a visit to this site.
Magapill dot com.
It's a compendium of Trump's accomplishments to date.
This was ONE battle in a long war.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 13, 2017 11:29 AM (S/hVx)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 11:30 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jen the original at December 13, 2017 11:23 AM (VSya6)
So what have you got against Honey Boo Boo?
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 11:30 AM (sZs9g)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 11:21 AM (k1TUh)
Nope, it's never over. They will keep demanding more and more. The left never wins something and is satisfied with it. It's just one more step in their never ending march
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 11:23 AM (493sH)
Going after a porn star who is bisexual because she doesn't want to have sex with a gay man because she has no idea if he is clean or not, and where he stuck his dick when he went out partying last weekend as being a homophobe.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 11:31 AM (cAnNx)
You misspelled vimmen.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 11:31 AM (Bdeb0)
Berserker, I live in Wisconsin and that describes most of the Dems I know, who are quite well-to-do. I've come across a few Republicans like that and they hate Trump. The Trump voters are blue collar people who hate what the left has done to this country and fear for their jobs.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 11:32 AM (ZM2xo)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to
Never fucking settles a damn thing.
Which is why we can never make any kind of forward progress.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 11:32 AM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 11:33 AM (ZM2xo)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 11:32 AM (ZM2xo)
Yeah, and notice how the repubs in congress have been siding with the dems a lot? The rich dems have become country club republicans. Just as dimwitted.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 13, 2017 11:35 AM (aMlLZ)
Honey Boo Boo supported Obama, remember?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 13, 2017 11:33 AM (ZM2xo)
Yes, but she thought they were sayin' Bama.
Posted by: cornbred at December 13, 2017 11:35 AM (sZs9g)
Posted by: Ruthless at December 13, 2017 11:37 AM (fkNSY)
That's why rifles have bayonets to prod with.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 11:41 AM (QQ+il)
It's hard to display your real character when you are a hand in a box. But he did a wonderful job showing his chivalrous side.
I'm curious about the other interpretations that are linked, but I kinda like my light & whimsical one for now.
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Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)