Porn Star Commits Suicide After Sustained Bullying Campaign From SJWs, Just Because She Refuses, For Health Reasons, to Have Sex with Guys Who Do Gay Scenes


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I don’t mean this as an unfortunately literal bit of gallows humor, but Ames' death does raise eyebrows because it speaks to a frightening dystopia where any traditional deference to female vulnerability becomes subservient to liberal pieties about sexuality. The day Ames killed herself, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments about a case involving a Colorado cake baker who doesn’t want to make cakes for gay weddings. The baker, quite understandably and credibly, insists there’s a rather large expressive and artistic component to his vocation, so he shouldn’t be forced to endorse any particular message or religious ceremony he disagrees with. The counterargument is that it’s just a cake, and as long as you’re open for business, you have to serve anyone without discrimination. Well, I’m scratching my head trying to figure out how Ames's detractors weren't extending the exact same logic of "public accommodation" to her. After all, she's open for business, if you want to call it that. Wouldn’t it be discrimination to exclude working with an entire class of people? Except that last I checked, there’s a word for when a woman is threatened and bullied into sex with someone she feels uncomfortable with, for any reason whatsoever: "Rape." Posted by: Ace at 07:00 PM Comments (Jump to bottom of comments) 1 First? Posted by: Minnfidel at December 07, 2017 06:57 PM (VAlay) 2 Mille et tres Posted by: Don Giovanni at December 07, 2017 06:58 PM (PEOTF) 3 This is terribly sad. I feel terrible for this poor girl. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 06:58 PM (Ri/rl) 4 Gee, why would she be worried about having sex with dung punchers? Posted by: wth at December 07, 2017 06:58 PM (HgMAr) 5 nd? Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2017 06:58 PM (Sfs6o) 6 Damnit! Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2017 06:58 PM (Sfs6o) 7 In fairness John Lenon just asked me "Isnt it good? Norwegian Wood." and I just had to find out for myself Posted by: KevinSpacey the Norwegian Junkengroper at December 07, 2017 06:59 PM (5pTgP) 8 The "slippery slope" is just a scare term used by RWNJ. Posted by: The mass media can EABOD at December 07, 2017 07:00 PM (UbvVs) 9 Spread for one, spread for all. Posted by: MeMyselfandI at December 07, 2017 07:01 PM (J9wxX) 10 I'm sorry but the simple fact is that the homos, the blacks, the feminists, the.... will MAKE YOU CARE. Accept out homo ways...OK Make special accommodations for our homo ways...OK Make way for us sodomizing you. Make sure you say you like our sodomizing. Make sure you say not sodomizing you is wrong. Insert any minority SJW for homo. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:01 PM (3BFzK) 11 Follow this slippery slope to its logical conclusion and Ace won't be able to use the ban-hammer anymore. Posted by: VA MKZ at December 07, 2017 07:02 PM (tkZ2O) 12 So sad. Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at December 07, 2017 07:03 PM (/o9Qk) 13 Could a Christian baker be forced to bake a cake celebrating a Satanic black mass? Could a Christian baker be forced to bake a cake congratulating an abortionist on his 1,000th late-term D&E? Posted by: Sam Adams at December 07, 2017 07:03 PM (DbadI) 14 Just imagine the SHIT STORM if it had been normal hetero people that had made some homo porn star commit suicide. Cat 7+ Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:03 PM (3BFzK) 15 Jaxton Wheeler is the cocksucker who told August Ames to kill herself. His actual quote "World is awaiting your apology or for you to swallow a cyanide pill." He ought to face charges. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (xJa6I) 16 Could a Christian baker be forced to bake a cake declaring that Allah is the only one true God, and that Mohammed was his prophet? Posted by: Sam Adams at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (DbadI) 17 Maybe she should have offered to copulate with a farm animal to appease the gaystapo. Posted by: kathysaysso at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (vkS2Z) 18 Why am I not surprised that the Federalist talking about the wedding cake SCOTUS case is ignoring that the baker had no problem selling them an off the shelf wedding cake. Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (lKs2v) 19 I'm going to go out on a limb and say she had more going on in her head than getting bullied by twitter trolls. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (BoMuO) 20 Mr. Sulu, ahead full impulse power. Posted by: Fritz at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (RtQsb) 21 18 Why am I not surprised that the Federalist talking about the wedding cake SCOTUS case is ignoring that the baker had no problem selling them an off the shelf wedding cake. +_ or the whole thing about excessive fines. Posted by: porg herder at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (TlvUt) 22 19 I'm going to go out on a limb and say she had more going on in her head than getting bullied by twitter trolls. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (BoMuO) That was my first thought, as well. No disrespect meant. Posted by: Peaches at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (14URa) 23 "Could a Christian baker be forced to bake a cake celebrating a Satanic black mass?" == Do NOT take the homo Fake News Media LIE. The guy would have sold them a premade cake of his. He refused to be an artist to the homo wedding. The homos wanted him to design and render a homo wedding cake. A big difference. Get this, the FNM is lying about the case. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (3BFzK) 24 She got the normal stupid twitter backlash but that was not the cause of her suicide. She was only 23 and had done over 700 porn movies. She also suffered from long term depression. Married a guy 20 years older likely because of daddy issues. Profile of a suicide in the making. I guess the twitter douches could be like the crowd yelling for the person on the ledge to jump. Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (2DOZq) 25 I think this is one I sit out. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (fdYaI) 26 Yes... she must have sex with Gay men... But she can draw the line at Trump Supporters... Posted by: SJW... at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (NgKpN) 27 Could a Christian baker be forced to bake a cake celebrating the S&M lifestyle? Posted by: Sam Adams at December 07, 2017 07:06 PM (DbadI) 28 Suck this AIDS-infected dick, or it's off to Re-Education Fun Camp with you!! Posted by: SJW Brownshirts at December 07, 2017 07:06 PM (42M22) 29 This story is very sad and I hope this woman's poor soul finds peace... but it has got to be said that if you are letting random strangers' opinions of you affect you in any way, much less in this way, your issue is mental illness and not people being shitty to you. That being said, there should be major push back against the idiots who value PC falsity over actual reality. It should be pointed out to them that the STD rate amongst homosexuals... especially homosexual men... is astronomical and therefore it is completely rational to avoid sex with them. Posted by: redbanzai at December 07, 2017 07:06 PM (FTXAT) 30 4 Just imagine the SHIT STORM if it had been normal hetero people that had made some homo porn star commit suicide. +++++++ imaginary people committin' the suicides was the idea behind the whole let's end free speech to stop the bullies bc dorks, spazzes, and dweebs be killin' emselves up in here. Posted by: porg herder at December 07, 2017 07:06 PM (TlvUt) 31 You will be MADE to care. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:07 PM (mbhDw) 32 Today, The ones who scream about being bullied are the actual real bullies. Driving a person to suicide is psychotic and I have no doubt this was the goal of those involved. Social Media is cancer. It brings out the worst in people and normalizes behaviors that are a public health risk. Feel awful for her, her husband, and her family. Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 07:07 PM (g4lFK) 33 17 Maybe she should have offered to copulate with a farm animal to appease the gaystapo. Posted by: kathysaysso at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (vkS2Z) "Cut, jib, newsletter?" - - Mohammed Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:07 PM (mbhDw) 34 Is it too soon to remind Peter North fans that he did gay scenes? NTTAWWT Well, there is, but no there isnt Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:08 PM (fdYaI) 35 Jaxton Wheeler is the cocksucker who told August Ames to kill herself. His actual quote "World is awaiting your apology or for you to swallow a cyanide pill." He ought to face charges. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (xJa6I) Being a giant D-Bag is not illegal. Posted by: redbanzai at December 07, 2017 07:08 PM (FTXAT) 36 It's sad but I would expect porn stars to have a screw or two loose. Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2017 07:08 PM (WbIyz) 37 Bob Hope had it right when he said something along the lines of: "They just made homosexuality legal in California. I figured I'd better leave before they make it mandatory." Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at December 07, 2017 07:08 PM (/A+Cl) 38 Posted by: redbanzai at December 07, 2017 07:06 PM (FTXAT) I'd wager she was of course... on anti Depressants... Posted by: Don Q. at December 07, 2017 07:08 PM (NgKpN) 39 IMHO, twitter is the tool that satan has/is/will use to take over the dumbass people. People with 70IQ points get a platform to spew absolute evil/stupidity/EVIL. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:08 PM (3BFzK) 40 Hookers, porn stars, etc, all are in my prayers. They are usually coming from a very terrible place, are living in a very dark place, and are in need of love and hope. I know it sounds like some kind of dream to get paid to have sex with beautiful people all day long but... its not. And they aren't all beautiful. And usually what drives you to take a job like that was something awful in your background. I know its probably hard for some to understand (like my pastor) but I have Bree Olson on my twitter follow list. She was the porn starlet who was Charlie Sheen's main squeeze. He gave her AIDS. I really feel for her and I can tell when you hear her talk in interviews there's something missing in her heart, a sadness and emptiness that she's trying to fill. Jesus Christ was at his most loving and compassionate with the fringes and most rejected of society. These people need our love, compassion, and prayers. That 14 year old girl strung out on meth trying to survive another night on the street so she can pay her pimp and buy a few more hits, she's in more need of love and prayer than any of us. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (39g3+) 41 If you're ready to commit suicide because people are saying mean things about you then you have deeper problems than career troubles. This young lady was apparently laboring under the assumption that making fuck movies for a living is socially respectable while being careful who you "do business" with is not. Posted by: jbspry at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (d/n9j) 42 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (xJa6I) Charges for what? Being a douche? Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (2DOZq) 43 Next it will be mandated that 50% of sexual encounters in pron have to be homosexual in nature. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (BoMuO) 44 So glad I married my high school sweetheart before all this madness started. Posted by: pookysgirl at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (XKZwp) 45 funny that ames was married...married porn stars, who knew? sort of how dakota skye was actually married too...before she got arrested for beating up her paramour (because 80 pound girls are so violent) Posted by: porg herder at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (TlvUt) 46 True story: Long long long ago, a very left-wing friend of mine was visiting from out of town, and we showed her around SF, and went to The Castroi back when it was the hip-and-happneing center of the gay scene, and went to a candy shop, and suggesting buying some fudge. She wouldn't do it. Not because of any pun about the word "fudge," but because she was worried that AIDS-infected jizz could somehow find its way into the fudge mix via the worker's unwashed hands. "Tolerance" and PC-ness only go as far as your own health and safety can tolerate. Posted by: SJW Brownshirts at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (42M22) 47 Off "SJW Brownshirts" sock. Posted by: zombie at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (42M22) 48 It's interesting that gay rights, when you look at how they play out, are really just the right to bully other people. Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at December 07, 2017 07:10 PM (/A+Cl) 49 I'm going to go out on a limb and say she had more going on in her head than getting bullied by twitter trolls. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (BoMuO) True enough, but it is just staggering to me that these people think that this poor woman should be forced to have sex with anyone the SJW mob deems fit. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2017 07:10 PM (5Yee7) 50 "They just made homosexuality legal in California. I figured I'd better leave before they make it mandatory." =========== And they will. Johnny can't read but he knows how to toss salad! Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:10 PM (3BFzK) 51 When NYS adopted gay marriage, the legislation included countervailing religious liberty provisions (to state expressly what many thought wasn't needed at all). IIRC, many other states followed this model. But then SCOTUS Kennedy wrote his own addendum to the 14th Amendment, which conflicts with the First Amendment, which is why we have this legal controversy. Posted by: Ignoramus at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (cAXIk) 52 48 It's interesting that gay rights, when you look at how they play out, are really just the right to bully other people. ++++++++++++ they really hate you. Then again, they feel like they've been persecuted for millions of years and it's all jesus's fault because no other culture has ever had a prohibition against gayiality. Posted by: porg herder at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (TlvUt) 53 Clearly this poor kid had a lot of trauma to deal with, but that doesn't make the seething lavender mob any less evil. If they feel so strongly that porn stars shouldn't have any say in who they fuck, how about these assholes all get fucked by a bear. Posted by: UGAdawg at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (tRd71) 54 Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. Posted by: Captain Marko Ramius at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (jn7FC) 55 My friend said he likes pron. Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (6Ll1u) 56 It's all about ass, isn't it? Either you kick it... or you lick it. -- General Leslie Groves Posted by: KevinSpacey the Norwegian Junkengroper at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (5pTgP) 57 She was a cute girl, had I been on Twatter I would have defended her. The SJWs will consider you a war criminal unless you engage in an annual carnal debauchery with you own gender. Ignore them mockingly at your own peril. Posted by: sven10077 at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (SzZnW) 58 Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. ++++++++++++ of course, this is how a GOP gets booted. no sex, no harassment Posted by: porg herder at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (TlvUt) 59 Saw somewhere he also had full blown AIDS. So.. there's that.. Posted by: Jarvis W. Deplorable at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (RErNf) 60 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (39g3+) Well said. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (Ri/rl) 61 Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. Posted by: Captain Marko Ramius at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (jn7FC) Wat? Posted by: redbanzai at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (FTXAT) 62 >>>The counterargument is that it's just a cake, and as long as you're open for business, you have to serve anyone without discrimination. Ugh. That's not a counter argument. Gay people can go in there and buy croissants, bread, whatever product the bakery currently offers. Making a homosexual themed wedding cake is not a product/service that it offers. The only question involved here is "do homosexuals have the right to force people to conduct their business in ways that violates their conscience/religious beliefs?" Obviously no. Someone nailed it in the art thread: Kennedy needs to consider if people have the right to demand that Muslim bakeries make cakes with a depiction of Mohammed on it. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (/qEW2) 63 liberal pieties about sexuality. Not exactly the way I would have termed it. I figure it was meant sarcastically ... but I still would have phrased it differently. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (8gDQu) 64 Here's a thought: maybe we were right back in the day when being a homosexual meant you had an aberrant mental condition. This sort of nastiness that "gay" men reserve for most women is beyond abhorrent, and is nearly matched by the stench of nastiness toward men most lesbians show. They can hide it as long as they need to, but it always shows up eventually. And then the homosexuals say they are great parents and should be able to adopt as many kids as they like. I don't think we have to look far to find a bunch of maladjusted children coming from same-sex households. The practice of placing your penis inside another man's rectum is not healthy, no matter how you think of it, and how you dress it up with nice words. Making a man into your woman because you don't like women is the definition of crazy. Sorry if this offends some of our folks here, but the slippery slope started somewhere and I'm pretty sure it didn't start with the nuclear family. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (7UW64) 65 19 I'm going to go out on a limb and say she had more going on in her head than getting bullied by twitter trolls. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (BoMuO) Yeah I'm not exactly going to be shocked if she had other issues going on mentally or personally. A bunch of SJW assholes likely yelling at her, and sending death threats and probably telling her to kill herself isn't going to be helpful. Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2017 07:12 PM (lKs2v) 66 46 "Tolerance" and PC-ness only go as far as your own health and safety can tolerate. Posted by: SJW Brownshirts at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (42M22) At the beginning, some of the nation's brightest minds in science and medicine proposed quarantining, perhaps indefinitely, the several hundred (maybe 1,000) or so confirmed cases of AIDS so as to isolate and stop the spread into a potential pandemic. The outrage and outcry was deafening. And the rest is tragic history. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:13 PM (mbhDw) 67 She didn't want to wind up looking like Mr. Cock Curious. Yellow. Posted by: Under Fire at December 07, 2017 07:13 PM (r9UYA) 68 Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. Posted by: Captain Marko Ramius at December 07, 2017 07:11 PM (jn7FC) Wut?? Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2017 07:13 PM (ptqGC) 69 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (39g3+) well said Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 07, 2017 07:13 PM (hMwEB) 70 The counterargument is that it's just a cake, and as long as you're open for business, you have to serve anyone without discrimination. Bakers are supposed to have discriminating tastes. That's why they get paid to bake stuff. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (8gDQu) 71 Yeah, I just get this story. Doesn't want to die from AIDS: commits suicide. Family must be beyond heartbroken, though. Posted by: Max Power at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (q177U) 72 67 She didn't want to wind up looking like Mr. Cock Curious. Yellow. Posted by: Under Fire at December 07, 2017 07:13 PM (r9UYA) Worse. Rock Hudson circa 1985 and his last presser with Doris Day. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (mbhDw) 73 >>Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. wut? Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (/tuJf) 74 42 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 07, 2017 07:04 PM (xJa6I) Charges for what? Being a douche? Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (2DOZq) Hey, I'm trying the legal remedies for his behavior first. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (xJa6I) 75 "May you live in interesting times." Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (GsAUU) 76 I'm waiting for a couple of gheys to sue a Muslim baker for refusing to bake them a cake. I'll be here. Waiting. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (ptqGC) 77 I thought it was a women's choice as it is her body. Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (IYHxL) 78 Porn Thread? Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (Sfs6o) 79 73 >>Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. wut? +++++++++++ you can say that again Posted by: porg herder at December 07, 2017 07:15 PM (TlvUt) 80 what happened to "my body, my choice?" Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 07, 2017 07:15 PM (hMwEB) 81 77 I thought it was a women's choice as it is her body. Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (IYHxL) THEIR choice. Not hers. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:15 PM (mbhDw) 82 The SJW twitter lynch mob..... you will submit or be destroyed... So they drove a likely unstable young woman to her death, because she dared to speak freely... There is a lesson here for all of us... at all costs we have to hold these monsters at bay... They are nothing but Bolsheviks/ Red Guard/ Khmer Rouge, in mindset... Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (zSVEm) 83 You will be MADE to care. Posted by: J.J. Sefton Good luck with that. Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (Aivl/) 84 I worked with a woman at an ad agency who bragged about her two abortions, and the local celebs she fcked who got her pregnant. But even back then that was totes cool. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (ptqGC) 85 I'm waiting for a couple of gheys to sue a Muslim baker for refusing to bake them a cake. I'll be here. Waiting. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM Steven Crowder did a video on that. Surprising no one, they all refused to bake gay cakes. Posted by: Jarvis W. Deplorable at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (RErNf) 86 That was my first thought, as well. No disrespect meant. Posted by: Peaches at December 07, 2017 07:05 PM (14URa) I agree but why would they pick on an obviously damaged person. That's just reprehensible. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (Ri/rl) 87 Hope she wasn't an 'ette. Nevertheless, God bless. Posted by: redenzo at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (5wSNN) 88 The left is so inconsistent and disgusting. Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (IYHxL) 89 80 what happened to "my body, my choice?" Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 07, 2017 07:15 PM (hMwEB) That mostly applies to abortion. Maybe rape. Unless the perpetrator is a Democrat (until very recently). Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (NWiLs) 90 >>Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. Sacred Honor Compels Him. Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (GQu4B) 91 83 You will be MADE to care. Posted by: J.J. Sefton Good luck with that. Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (Aivl/) In a nutshell, this is the essence of about 50-60% of the exchanges we all have here. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (mbhDw) 92 She wasn't a full porn star (although she did some porn scenes) but Jewell Shepherd tells the story of her life in a rather good book that is full of humor and back stories of film making B movies. She was molested as a little girl by her father. At 16 she ran away from home and was picked up by a trucker, trying to get to Hollywood. Everyone told her she was beautiful (and she was), so she wanted to be a star. The trucker took her to a motel, raped her, then dumped her at a strip club. Penniless and alone, she took a job there. There are millions of these stories out there, girls who are trapped, hopeless, just trying to survive, usually from a background that twisted them and left them unable to deal with the world properly. Girls dying of overdoses on the streets, girls freezing to death in a doorway because her pimp sent her back out one more time. Girls dying in the end of the line meat grinder houses because they got too used up and drugged to be able to sell themselves on the street. Girls sent to Pedo Isle or to Hollywood parties by their "agents" and "friends" to service work buddies and powerful politicians. The whole thing just enrages me. Thankfully there are outreach programs. Churches, some of them, are doing what they can to help. There is an organization called Magdalen that helps out hookers, trying to give them hope and a new life. It just breaks your heart. This woman was in a very bad place before these scum decided to attack her. This isn't like a teenager that is down because they broke out in zits right before the big dance. Her life was awful. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (39g3+) 93 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (39g3+) Very well said. Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (sGSvK) 94 They are nothing but Bolsheviks/ Red Guard/ Khmer Rouge, in mindset... Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (zSVEm) Don't forget "French Revolutionaries" - the originals. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (8gDQu) 95 88 The left is so inconsistent and disgusting. Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (IYHxL) They're pretty consistently disgusting. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (NWiLs) 96 72 67 She didn't want to wind up looking like Mr. Cock Curious. Yellow. Posted by: Under Fire at December 07, 2017 07:13 PM (r9UYA) Worse. Rock Hudson circa 1985 and his last presser with Doris Day. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM ( When Old Yeller died.... Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (zSVEm) 97 The GAYSTAPO cases against photographers, cake artists, florists and so on makes me so furious. And really it is very short slope left until declining an invitation to attend your gay co-workers wedding is not acceptable because you are creating a hostile work environment for them. And also for churches to be allowed to decline to do the ceremonies (nevermind that teh gays could get married by a justice of the the peace, or find an Episcopalian church branch that would do the ceremony voluntarily) . It is insane that we the people are allowing 'civil rights' to be twisted into "participate and applaud in our lifestyle choice or else you lose your business" and soon it will be lose even your basic wage earner job. Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (eASYU) 98 Trent Franks is stepping down because he discussed surrogate pregnancies of his own children?!?! How is that sexual harassment or even harassment? Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (g4lFK) 99 >>Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children. Weak. Don't let the door hit ya where the Lord split ya. Posted by: Under Fire at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (r9UYA) 100 78 Porn Thread? Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2017 07:14 PM (Sfs6o) I wish. I'm probably too pissed off to enjoy it properly. Going to go hug my pup and see if he wants to go for a walk. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (xJa6I) 101 what happened to "my body, my choice?" Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 07, 2017 07:15 PM (hMwEB) That's the Cliff Notes version. It's really: "Another life in my body, my choice." Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:18 PM (8gDQu) 102 This is tragic, of course. However, being mixed up in this sick porn industry has to eat up your mind from the inside. I will not comment on what I think about the glorification of the ghey lest I be banned. Fill in the blanks. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:18 PM (wjmTS) 103 This woman was in a very bad place before these scum decided to attack her. This isn't like a teenager that is down because they broke out in zits right before the big dance. Her life was awful. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:17 PM (39g3+) That's heartbreaking. I hope the poor woman has found peace. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2017 07:18 PM (ptqGC) 104 However, being mixed up in this sick porn industry has to eat up your mind from the inside.* Prostitution by proxy. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:19 PM (6FqZa) 105 The gay illegal immigrant sombrero cast a long shadow! Posted by: Tentotwo at December 07, 2017 07:19 PM (yhf6w) 106 41 If you're ready to commit suicide because people are saying mean things about you then you have deeper problems than career troubles. This young lady was apparently laboring under the assumption that making fuck movies for a living is socially respectable while being careful who you "do business" with is not. Posted by: jbspry at December 07, 2017 07:09 PM (d/n9j) In other words, this young lady was the product of Leftist "education". :-( Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 07, 2017 07:20 PM (ujg0T) 107 84 I worked with a woman at an ad agency who bragged about her two abortions, and the local celebs she fcked who got her pregnant. But even back then that was totes cool. Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (ptqGC) That's the saddest thing I've read all day. She brags as a cry for help. But heaven forbid you should offer any. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:20 PM (7UW64) 108 You know what its called when you compel someone to serve you? Slavery. It doesn't matter if you pay them or not, slaves were paid in room and food, and some even got a stipend of money. Pay isn't an element in slavery, compulsory work is. Work for me or be punished is enslavement. Compelling people to work to serve you is not a right, no matter who you are. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:20 PM (39g3+) 109 Trent Franks sounds like a cuck. If he really left over that, he's probably been useless as a congresscritter. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:20 PM (4ErVI) 110 Trent Franks is leaving congress because two staffers complained about him discussing the surrogate pregnancies that produced his children.* There has to be more to it than that. Any real man, especially one claiming to be on the Right, would push back against the HR-department overreach. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:20 PM (6FqZa) 111 When will CGI and sexbots make all of this go away? After all, the only thing the consumer of pr0n needs are the pixels on the screen, and the moans. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 07, 2017 07:20 PM (/qEW2) 112 I know this sounds silly, but couldn't this Bonfire of the Vanities have been avoided if these men had, like, kept their hands to themselves. I know it's an outmoded notion, but accusations have less weight if your behavior can't be questioned. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:21 PM (uLtih) 113 Sad story nonetheless although how broken do you have to be to commit suicide from twitter? I don't mean to sound hard but damn. Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 07, 2017 07:21 PM (IYHxL) 114 Mister Metokur made a short video about this https://tinyurl.com/ya6aqtpt Posted by: The Institute at December 07, 2017 07:21 PM (nGsFZ) 115 >>If he really left over that, he's probably been useless as a congresscritter. He's a member of the Freedom Caucus and one of the more conservative members in the House. Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 07:22 PM (/tuJf) 116 Let me say this: Back in the day the crazies were locked up and the rest of us were left alone. Now they are running amok, in our faces 24/7, screeching their insanity and insisting that we accept it as "normal" or else. Indeed, or else, including threats of lawfare, public condemnation, even death by mob violence. What ever became of America? It's not the one I thought I knew. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:22 PM (wjmTS) 117 I could completed understand why a mentally sound and healthy person living in the public eye making money off of sex and sex appeal would kill herself because she was being publicly lynched by her "peers" for not wanting to be raped by a male gay porn star. Hemingway nails it, it's advocating rape. I empathize to why this young girl decided to kill herself because she did not want to be raped now or in the future. Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 07:22 PM (g4lFK) 118 I'm not going to lie. I know darn well who she is and I have seen her work. Very pretty girl. I'm guessing she had a lot of issues if she chose porn for a career. Very sad. Posted by: HamiltonNJ at December 07, 2017 07:22 PM (sCjDS) 119 Porn stars are actors, and therefore just about sleazy as politicians. Some even descend to the level of politicians. Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2017 07:23 PM (UdKB7) 120 They also want to change the rules on blood donation for gays, and if you bring up how gays have a higher risk for STD etc your a Homophobe. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 07, 2017 07:23 PM (dKiJG) 121 113 Sad story nonetheless although how broken do you have to be to commit suicide from twitter? I don't mean to sound hard but damn. Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at December 07, 2017 07:21 PM (IYHxL) It isn't necessarily the reason why, but if you are already tipping that direction, having a bunch of screaming idiots pushing you over the edge probably doesn't help. And I think some of us would be surprised how seriously young people take social media. Hopefully, people grow out of that. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:23 PM (7UW64) 122 They release the cause of death -- she hanged herself. Besides the above mentioned POS, another POS was one of the principled bullies: Gay porn "actor" named Bruce Beckham. After she killed herself, he was defiant, but now is apologizing. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:23 PM (8O3HH) 123 The counterargument is that it's just a cake, and as long as you're open for business, you have to serve anyone without discrimination. *** Does a Jew have to bake a Happy Holocaust Cake? Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2017 07:24 PM (Z8FFX) 124 Did you suck cock yesterday? Have you sucked cock today? Did you try to suck cock today? Posted by: Bea Arthur at the Unemployment Office at December 07, 2017 07:24 PM (GQu4B) 125 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:20 PM (4ErVI) Member of the freedom caucus and very pro life. Hopefully whatever his reason is for resigning does not contradict his public stances. Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 07:24 PM (2DOZq) 126 Was she a manic depressive? Doesn't make sense that a 23 yo would take twitter seriously enough to let it get to her like that. Why not just stop reading it? There was a case several years ago about an Irish immigrant girl who was so severely bullied in school that she committed suicide. That's much worse. A child, forced by law to be subject to several hours of torture 5 days a week. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 07, 2017 07:24 PM (/qEW2) 127 These people are PROSTITUTES. Just want to remind everyone of that. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (UVCy2) 128 What if the Westboro Baptist church wanted a gay backer to bake a "God Hats Fags" cake for a celebration of faith event? Posted by: Keith at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (USf3s) 129 127 These people are PROSTITUTES. Just want to remind everyone of that. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (UVCy2) These people are PEOPLE. Just another point you might take. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (7UW64) 130 If you're ready to commit suicide because people are saying mean things about you then you have deeper problems than career troubles. Yeah, exactly. She had problems already, and not the least of them was "being a porn star." Supposedly its kind of a trend right now for porn girls to take the job a few years as a lark: make money ($1000 per scene supposedly, although I've seen a sliding scale of perversion, the worse the more money) and have lots of secks with expert hawt men. Then quit and move on. But its a pretty awful thing to do to yourself, and when you hear interviews with the women who are more honest and stable, they talk about what a mistake it is and how girls should avoid it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (39g3+) 131 But its a pretty awful thing to do to yourself, and when you hear interviews with the women who are more honest and stable, they talk about what a mistake it is and how girls should avoid it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (39g3+) Yeah, who woulda thought being used and objectified and having it all on tape would be a bad experience? Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:26 PM (7UW64) 132 Gay porn "actor" named Bruce Beckham. If he had been a Muslim it would have been totes OK. Double grievance points! Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:26 PM (uLtih) 133 Oh FFS! Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) announced Thursday that he would resign from office as of Jan. 31, 2018, after discussing surrogacy issues with female staffers. "I have recently learned that the Ethics Committee is reviewing an inquiry regarding my discussion of surrogacy with two previous female subordinates, making each feel uncomfortable," he said in a statement. "I deeply regret that my discussion of this option and process in the workplace caused distress." The shark has been jumped.... Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (Enq6K) 134 These people are PROSTITUTES. Just want to remind everyone of that. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (UVCy2) Which puts them several steps up the ladder from most of our "betters" in DC. Your point? Posted by: Peaches at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (14URa) 135 Definition: Prostitute--a person who offers sex for money or other value. This applies whether it involves the actual one-on-one act, or the public display via the Internet, motion picture theater, or whatever. Used to be preverts (sic) sold dirty picture postcards down the street from the high school. Same thing. Filth. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (wjmTS) 136 There has to be more to it than that. Any real man, especially one claiming to be on the Right, would push back against the HR-department overreach. Yeah I'm guessing we're not getting the whole story here. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (39g3+) 137 Yeah, who woulda thought being used and objectified and having it all on tape would be a bad experience? wince Posted by: anthony weiner at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (6FqZa) 138 I suspect young kids every day are committing suicide largely because of social media sites. It truly is sad. Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (aC6Sd) 139 OT, It's really smokey here in santa Ynez Valley. There was also three fires in the valley today. 1 shut down the 101 briefly. I cannot believe how bad it is outside. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (Ri/rl) 140 "surrogate pregnancies"?? Did he, oh I dunno, describe how he wanked off to be a donor to the surrogate baby oven momma? Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (UVCy2) 141 Let me say this: Back in the day the crazies were locked up and the rest of us were left alone *** Its like we are living in The Mouth of Madness. Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2017 07:28 PM (Z8FFX) 142 Interesting to know if Franks was on the Hush Fund payout list. The one the taxpayers have never seen. Posted by: Under Fire at December 07, 2017 07:28 PM (r9UYA) 143 Who will force the Hispanic bakers to build a cake decorated as a wall? Who will force the black baker to decorate a cake with a burning cross? Posted by: Batterup at December 07, 2017 07:28 PM (mtGE/) 144 Franken Franks I bet Lois Frankel is sweating bullets right now. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (RrhD2) 145 Whatever her occupation... she committed CrimeSpeak... she was persecuted by the Mob.... and it can happen to others, like us... Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (zSVEm) 146 What a sad situation. Posted by: Count de Monet at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (QLvwG) 147 >> Was she a manic depressive? Doesn't make sense that a 23 yo would take twitter seriously enough to let it get to her like that. Why not just stop reading it? ----------------- I've been reading some about her -- she was depressive. Also, she used social media to advance herself big time, so that was her world. She gets on the receiving end of an SJW Lavender Mafia bullying campaign (telling her to kill herself, death threats, rape threats, violence threats). That pushed her over the edge. She was alone likely (where was her supposed husband? Well, I should shut up, I don't know all the circumstances), thought her career was over because she was going to be a pariah. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (8O3HH) 148 The shark has been jumped.... Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (Enq6K) You can say that again. If that's all he did and he's resigning ... I just don't know. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (8gDQu) 149 'I cannot believe how bad it is outside' Wow caligirl are you safe? What's the fire chance there? Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (UdKB7) 150 I've done some wedding photography. Trust me. If your concern is getting the best possible photography at the best possible price you want a photographer who is happy to be at your wedding. Forcing somebody to work for you sounds a lot like slavery but it's also a recipe for bad work. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (3zhEq) 151 You guys are doing great! Posted by: Caesar Nero at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (sNwPN) 152 That mostly applies to abortion. Maybe rape. Unless the perpetrator is a Democrat (until very recently). Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:16 PM (NWiLs) It doesn't even apply to abortion. Former Planned Barrenhood employees have exposed the lengths to which PP will go to get an unwilling woman to abort. Abortion "rights" simply protect the right of abortionists to exploit women for $. Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (/A+Cl) 153 Discussing surrogacy is not sexual harassment for God's sake. Hey CaliGirl how is your cat? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (4ErVI) 154 Jenna Jameson is all over this, calling out the SJWs who drove the shame train and then deleted the tweets. She won't back down on this. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (y7DUB) 155 ATTENTION KORANIMALS: Jerusalem does not belong to you! Fuck off! Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (GsAUU) 156 Prayers, CaliGirl. Nature doesn't care if you're naughty or nice, it's going to do what it's going do. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (uLtih) 157 Here's the full story on Trent Franks. Link goes to Politico: https://tinyurl.com/yaxy9xb8 If this is the kind of crap that will generate complaints, I predict we'll all be Mike Pence look alikes by next summer. Snowflake staffers. Posted by: jwb7605 at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (DofIg) 158 I think we've reached peak insanity when the infotainment-complex drives a woman to suicide because she won't have sex with a gay man Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (Z8FFX) 159 Prostitute or not, she had some mental health issues and its so sad that online bullying led her to do this. Just like that 13 year old girl who committed suicide from being bullied by her school mates. How are parents bringing up their kids these days? Where is the compassion and empathy? Posted by: IC at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (a0IVu) 160 Pretty windy down here 1 hour north of san diego... Hope no fires start it would be another huge disaster... Posted by: E.T. at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (P1GJy) 161 no one should decide if they get AIDS Posted by: rhennigantx at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (BtQd4) 162 as long as you're open for business, you have to serve anyone without discrimination. --- Where in the Constitution is that? zerohedge made a pretty compelling case a couple days ago that the problem here is a failure to recognize the property rights of the bakers, not the artistic expression angle. There's no inherent reason anyone should be forced to do business with anyone they choose not to, for whatever reason motivates them. Otherwise, we're just slaves. And yes, I know, some court said 'blah, blah, because we feel bad'. Well maybe it's time to correct the government on this point. Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (XQvuQ) 163 154 Jenna Jameson is all over this, calling out the SJWs who drove the shame train and then deleted the tweets. She won't back down on this. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (y7DUB) --The only porno star I'd bother to read anything of. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (GsAUU) 164 Yes, it's bad. But I'm always weary of the "You made them commit suicide" meme. Sht like that is how we get speech police. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (ubJwS) 165 >> Jenna Jameson is all over this, She's been in her own fights with the SJW over the trannies. ANd I saw Brett Rossi was on the warpath about this as well. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (8O3HH) 166 Like I said this morning, this young lady was literally a fcking expert on the matter, and at the top of her profession. If she says it's dangerous to have sex with gay dudes, then it's dangerous to have sex with gay dudes.* But that whole "expert" thing is just global warming rules, isn't it? * Not that it's the least bit unknown or controversial. Gay dudes = 70% of all new HIV infections per the CDC. Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (y8m+O) 167 >> no one should decide if they get AIDS AIDS, like Citizenship, should be awrded by lottery. Posted by: Bea Arthur at the Unemployment Office at December 07, 2017 07:32 PM (GQu4B) 168 These people are PROSTITUTES. Just want to remind everyone of that. ========================== Doesn't negate your right to life. Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:32 PM (lwiT4) 169 154 Jenna Jameson is all over this, calling out the SJWs who drove the shame train and then deleted the tweets. She won't back down on this. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (y7DUB) She has surprised me. She's pretty smart and sensible, and has guts to boot. It's honestly not what I would've expected from a former porn actress. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:32 PM (NWiLs) 170 Did you see the article about Pamela Anderson? She said that the women that got into situations with people like Harvey Weinstein knew what they were getting into. She talked about how you should know enough not to go into a room alone with someone like that and to leave if they meet you in their bathrobe. They tried to shame her for saying but it's true. it's like college women that get drunk and pass out, then expect to be protected. If women are not strong enough to avoid situations that could lead to trouble, then maybe we need to rethink this idea that women can do anything. Posted by: notsothoreau at December 07, 2017 07:32 PM (5HBd1) 171 These people are PROSTITUTES. Just want to remind everyone of that. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:25 PM (UVCy2) They are people who have the love of their Heavenly Father. They are the "least of these" that Jesus talked of. Their poor life choices do not mean they are undeserving of compassion. Posted by: redbanzai at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (FTXAT) 172 Trent Franks story: (Fox News) https://tinyurl.com/y93gmr7j (Wash. Examiner) https://tinyurl.com/y9g5mqk5 Posted by: texcat at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (wf3RQ) 173 In a totally equality-based society, everyone would have AIDS. It just makes sense. / Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (wjmTS) 174 155 ATTENTION KORANIMALS: Jerusalem does not belong to you! Fuck off! Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (GsAUU) Had facebook friends who posted Jerusalem belongs to the Palestines with maps and everything. talk about the stupid. Posted by: IC at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (a0IVu) 175 Ryan claims he told him to resign. The story will come out but it sounds like more than telling stories about how you sacked off into a turkey baster. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (RrhD2) 176 Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (XQvuQ) That ship sailed with the Civil Rights stuff. Freedom of Association tossed out the window. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (4ErVI) 177 She gets on the receiving end of an SJW Lavender Mafia bullying campaign (telling her to kill herself, death threats, rape threats, violence threats). That pushed her over the edge. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM (8O3HH) Homosexual men are a sad and angry group. They hate normal guys ... because they're normal. They hate normal girls ... because they get the normal guys the gay guys really want. They hate the homosexual women ... because society never really seemed to mind what they were doing (in fact, lesbo scenes have been accepted on mainstream screens for a very long time while pretty much no one but gay guys has any interest in seeing gay guys do anything, anywhere). And finally, they hate themselves because they know that something is terribly wrong. So, they look to take this all out on anyone they can. Once homosexual males were empowered they were determined to make the world pay for their problems. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (8gDQu) 178 Yeah, they're not "actors" was my point. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (UVCy2) 179 One of the main characteristics of a psychopath is that they intentionally drive their targets to suicide. It's how they escape the murder charges with clean hands and still get off on it. Try pulling that shit in any hospital if you are a nurse or doctor and you go to prison. Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (g4lFK) 180 But hey, according to California law, you don't have to tip anyone off that you have a lethal, easily transmitted death virus before sex. You gotta sign 15 papers of continual approval and consent, but not mention that AIDS thing. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (39g3+) 181 169 Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:32 PM (NWiLs) I knew a guy who was in the biz way back in the late 70s/early 80s. Went by the name of "R. Bolla." One of the most intelligent guys I ever met. Just goes to show. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (mbhDw) 182 Where is Ojai, CA? FNC just showed a shot of the fire there. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (GsAUU) 183 If women are not strong enough to avoid situations that could lead to trouble, then maybe we need to rethink this idea that women can do anything. ==== WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP Posted by: Sexual Justice Mafia Alert Siren at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (sNwPN) 184 --The only porno star I'd bother to read anything of. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (GsAUU) What, no love for me? Posted by: Mercedes Carrera at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (nGsFZ) 185 182 Where is Ojai, CA? FNC just showed a shot of the fire there. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (GsAUU) Beautiful little town east of Santa Barbara. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:35 PM (mbhDw) 186 I've heard that pron actresses are also heavily pressured to do interracial scenes fairly early in their career. And are shunned if they hesitate or demur. Posted by: Count de Monet at December 07, 2017 07:35 PM (QLvwG) 187 They are people who have the love of their Heavenly Father. They are the "least of these" that Jesus talked of. Their poor life choices do not mean they are undeserving of compassion. Posted by: redbanzai at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (FTXAT) --True. That woman had a mother and a father as well. I have f'ed up people in my family and I would not wish death on them. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:35 PM (GsAUU) 188 Rape? The Japanese called them Comfort Women... This is how despicable things have gotten. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 07, 2017 07:35 PM (mB06r) 189 I still hold out hope that Asia Carrera someday will publish something about mathematics. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (6FqZa) 190 There's no inherent reason anyone should be forced to do business with anyone they choose not to, for whatever reason motivates them. Otherwise, we're just slaves. Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (XQvuQ) I agree to a point and strongly support free association. But where essential services are concerned that can be an issue for me. There is not always a market structure in place --say gas stations on a lonely stretch of highway-- to where not being served causes sever ramifications. Posted by: Keith at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (USf3s) 191 I knew a guy who was in the biz way back in the late 70s/early 80s. Went by the name of "R. Bolla." One of the most intelligent guys I ever met. Just goes to show. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (mbhDw) You just never know. Asia Carrera was a concert pianist, National Merit Scholar and Mensa member. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (NWiLs) 192 They are actors. They pretend they like what they are doing. For money. Which makes them actor/prostitutes. Give them an Academy Award, shoved up their asses wrapped in barbed wire. Oh, there I go, gotta watch for the ban hammer. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (wjmTS) 193 Where in the Constitution is that? zerohedge made a pretty compelling case a couple days ago that the problem here is a failure to recognize the property rights of the bakers, not the artistic expression angle. There's no inherent reason anyone should be forced to do business with anyone they choose not to, for whatever reason motivates them. Otherwise, we're just slaves. And yes, I know, some court said 'blah, blah, because we feel bad'. Well maybe it's time to correct the government on this point. Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (XQvuQ) Much of the vaunted Civil Rights Act was totally un-Constitutional ... and Congress has only piled on more un-Constitutional shit ever since. There really isn't much left in property rights, these days, which certainly would have enraged the Founders who understood that all individual liberty flows from private property rights. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (8gDQu) 194 They are the "least of these" that Jesus talked of. Yeah. Every time a prostitute is mentioned in the New Testament it is with compassion. Jesus even defended an adulterous woman from an angry mob. Nobody gave a crap about the adulterous man mind you. There are very, very few hookers who are in it because they love the boffing and want to just keep doing this forever. Its not like Pretty Woman. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (39g3+) 195 'Yeah, they're not "actors" was my point. ' They do sex acts in movies that sounds like actors. Maybe not very good ones but who gives a fuck. Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (UdKB7) 196 I don't do twatter because well it is just bad. BUT If I had done to a homo porn star what the SJW twatter gaystapo had done, I would have been stopped by twatter in a NY minute. I think it is the double standard that will start the war. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (3BFzK) 197 The only porno star I'd bother to read anything of. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (GsAUU) She's really a unique person, having gotten out of the business seemingly intact, mentally and physically, and now an Orthodox Jewish wife and mother and very conservative. Not a career path I'd want my children to follow but she seems to be very happy and I salute her for being a survivor. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (y7DUB) 198 >> They hate the homosexual women Oh, yes, she pointed this out in one of her tweets, that she did girl/girl all the time as well, so how could she be "homophobic". She was well, she needed somebody there to take the damn phone or device away from her, throw it out the window and get her away from looking at all the hate thrown against her. If that's your world, seeing all that hate coming your way, you're gonna think the whole world has turned against you and wants you to die. This is really making me angry. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (8O3HH) 199 I've done some wedding photography. Trust me. If your concern is getting the best possible photography at the best possible price you want a photographer who is happy to be at your wedding. Forcing somebody to work for you sounds a lot like slavery but it's also a recipe for bad work. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:29 PM I'd like to see that baker's recipe in the Horde Cookbook. Ingredients. 3 cups sifted flour. One cup cream of ficus soup.... Posted by: Minnfidel at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (VAlay) 200 My kids are outside playing in the wet SNOW...in the dark. Hey, it's Austin, TX! Posted by: lin-duh at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (kufk0) 201 192 They are actors. They pretend they like what they are doing. For money. Which makes them actor/prostitutes. Give them an Academy Award, shoved up their asses wrapped in barbed wire. Oh, there I go, gotta watch for the ban hammer. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (wjmTS) I have respect for people doing porn. "At least we take our clothes off in front of the camera." Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (mbhDw) 202 Sooo... Not believing that there would be such a thing as a "Satanic Black Mass Cake", I Googled it... And found black Jello (tm) too. Posted by: Burger Chef at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (RuIsu) 203 >>They do sex acts in movies that sounds like actors. Maybe not very good ones but who gives a fuck. The porn stars. Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (/tuJf) 204 175 Ryan claims he told him to resign. The story will come out but it sounds like more than telling stories about how you sacked off into a turkey baster. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:33 PM (RrhD2) Show me where it sounds like more than that? Show me. Were you there? Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (Enq6K) 205 They are actors. They pretend they like what they are doing. For money. Which makes them actor/prostitutes. Sure, and what they are doing is immoral and wrong. And its actually bad for society, particularly for men. Porn warps your psyche and sexual response system. But that doesn't take away from the awful life they are living, and the compassion we should feel for people in that life. And none of that negates the evil of hounding a woman to death because she doesn't want to have sex with a homosexual. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (39g3+) 206 169 154 Jenna Jameson is all over this, calling out the SJWs who drove the shame train and then deleted the tweets. She won't back down on this. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (y7DUB) She has surprised me. She's pretty smart and sensible, and has guts to boot. It's honestly not what I would've expected from a former porn actress. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:32 PM (NWiLs) I think its Asia Carrera or something like that who has a masters in Math, and is member of Mensa. And a bunch of other stuff you would not associate with someone who laid down on their back for a living. Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (lKs2v) 207 What's a Volvo? Sounds sexy. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (wjmTS) 208 I demand she has sex with that stranger. Posted by: The braying SJW mob at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (df+Zi) 209 198 >> They hate the homosexual women Oh, yes, she pointed this out in one of her tweets, that she did girl/girl all the time as well, so how could she be "homophobic". She was well, she needed somebody there to take the damn phone or device away from her, throw it out the window and get her away from looking at all the hate thrown against her. If that's your world, seeing all that hate coming your way, you're gonna think the whole world has turned against you and wants you to die. This is really making me angry. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:37 PM (8O3HH) Girl-girl isn't likely to give you AIDS. Bit of a difference. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (NWiLs) 210 120 They also want to change the rules on blood donation for gays, and if you bring up how gays have a higher risk for STD etc your a Homophobe. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 07, 2017 07:23 PM (dKiJG) The drive to allow blood donations from people who engage in receptive anal sex was launched immediately after a militant gay group threatened to taint the blood supply. They wanted to de-stigmatize AIDS by infecting innocent people. Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (/A+Cl) 211 "The porn stars" Nope. They don't give it away they get paid for it. Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2017 07:38 PM (UdKB7) 212 "No." Posted by: Rorschach at December 07, 2017 07:39 PM (sNwPN) 213 I have no need to comment on this thread, other than to say that I bought a Deplorable Gourmet Cookbook. I'd like to thank bluebell, Weasel and the nameless, thankless others who worked on it. -Thank You. -Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 07, 2017 07:39 PM (Ckg4U) 214 >>The only porno star I'd bother to read anything of. You should try my Poetry. Posted by: Nina Hartley at December 07, 2017 07:39 PM (GQu4B) 215 You all take your clothes off in front of my camera every day. -- Bob from the NSA PS -- unless you put a Band-Aid over the cameras on your devices like Ruthless does. Damn him! We'll get him yet. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (wjmTS) 216 As far as the Christian baker, he was perfectly willing to sell them any cake or other product that was already made. What they wanted from him was to produce a one-of-a-kind custom artistic creation to order. They wanted him to make art. How do you compel someone to make art? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (lwiT4) 217 A porn star kills herself, so what? Look at my shocked face. Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (oTZcB) 218 >>>Show me where it sounds like more than that? Show me. Were you there? You think Paul Ryan told him to resign over idle conversation? Well alrighty then. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (RrhD2) 219 At least we are not saying " she asked for it, she had it coming, she got what she deserved..."... are we??? Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (zSVEm) 220 I think the sliding scale of porn pay for women went lowest to highest like this: Solo Girl-girl Girl-boy Girl-boy-boy Gang bang Girl-Ron Jeremy Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (39g3+) 221 Many years ago I worked with an inner city ministry. The people we worked with were alcoholics, sniffers and low track street walkers. Desperately broken people living horrible lives. The thing with the girls was they may have their lives were terrible but what were they going to do, get a job in a grocery store? It was heartbreaking. Truly. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:41 PM (3zhEq) 222 I lived in England from 83-84. Because of this I can never give blood again. Tough, but in a way I understand. Giving blood isn't a basic human right. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:41 PM (mV8kt) 223 They are actors. They pretend they like what they are doing. For money. Which makes them actor/prostitutes. --- Interesting. Say, what percent of women pursue, date, and marry almost exclusively for money? Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at December 07, 2017 07:41 PM (y8m+O) 224 Hey CaliGirl how is your cat? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (4ErVI) I had her put down. She either had cancer or another disease and she didn't respond to treatment. It's sad. I miss her. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (Ri/rl) 225 Roseanne Barr is pretty woke on this issue as well (in a good way) women always lead the attack on women they consider 'to have stepped out of line' Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (6FqZa) 226 182 Where is Ojai, CA? FNC just showed a shot of the fire there. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:34 PM (GsAUU) Right near KTHNXBI. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (7UW64) 227 How did this generation become so desperately insecure? Social media is the vehicle driving mental illness. Posted by: Fritz at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (RtQsb) 228 You think Paul Ryan told him to resign over idle conversation? Well alrighty then. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (RrhD2) Paul Ryan is scared of his own fucking shadow. Hardly the standard to use. Did you read the article or are you once again just posting crap from your ass to get attention? Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (Enq6K) 229 >> Girl-girl isn't likely to give you AIDS. Bit of a >> difference. Yes. They all know this. They know the odds, but now you can't talk about it. She was pissed because they had booked her to do a scene with (ie fsck) some "male talent", but didn't mention he had done gay shit. She (like any of them with any sense do) looked him up on her own to see his "pedigree" and discovered the gay shit. That pissed her off and she cancelled. They hired another girl, and she figured they hadn't told her either, so she warned that girl on Twitter. That started the hate and bulling by the SJWs. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (8O3HH) 230 @therealroseanne Replying to @jennajameson @AugustAmesxxx Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (6FqZa) 231 Slap! How you doing? Been concerned. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (mV8kt) 232 A porn star kills herself, so what? If you look more closely its the why that people are especially upset about. Its getting so awful that even in something so low and immoral as porn movies, the left's corruption of the world is pushing people too far. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (39g3+) 233 OT - In the FBI Director's response to Darrel Issa (R, morphing sorta vague D to fool his dumb constituents who are getting dumber by the year - CA), me no likey something. He says the IG review will determine if any improper political influence was present in the Espionage Act "investigation", but will not be "second-guessing" the original effort. Could be just the level of generalization used for the setting, but actually I don't think improper political influence is the key point. The substance of the legal determination not to prosecute, the procedural and legal flaws of the actual investigation - those are the key - but I assume also the central focus of any IG review. Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (QDnY+) 234 Ryan telling someone to resign as just a knee jerk reaction to the cause du jour totally sounds like something Ryan would do. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (4ErVI) 235 Makes me tempted. To take GOD's Name in vain by cursing these 'people. Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (zLDYs) 236 PS -- unless you put a Band-Aid over the cameras on your devices like Ruthless does. Damn him! We'll get him yet. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (wjmTS) --Those mini-Post-It notes have a good use. . . . Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:43 PM (GsAUU) 237 As far as the Christian baker, he was perfectly willing to sell them any cake or other product that was already made. What they wanted from him was to produce a one-of-a-kind custom artistic creation to order. They wanted him to make art. How do you compel someone to make art? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (lwiT4) ------ That was what i posted up thread. The homos want power. They want to make you make that cake and then peg you. This is slavery and I put it all on Prop 8 here in california when the militant homos went ape shit and got their way. Never, NEVER give any deviant leftist organization or movement an inch. They will want ten miles. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:43 PM (3BFzK) 238 Hmm, Moron Robbie -- I am talking about taking money and walking away, not making a mutual pact to spend you lives together. Can you actually defend the idea that EVERYONE is a prostitute? If that is the case, the term is meaningless. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:43 PM (wjmTS) 239 Interesting. Say, what percent of women pursue, date, and marry almost exclusively for money? Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at December 07, 2017 07:41 PM (y8m+O) I couldn't say. I married my husband because we are soul mates. But hey, don't let that stop you, if you want to believe that your bad experience tops common sense. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:44 PM (7UW64) 240 224 Hey CaliGirl how is your cat? Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:30 PM (4ErVI) I had her put down. She either had cancer or another disease and she didn't respond to treatment. It's sad. I miss her. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (Ri/rl) It sucks, sucks, sucks I know. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:44 PM (4ErVI) 241 When Moore wins, he will take away some of Trump's bad press. I suspect he will be great entertainment. Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 07:44 PM (oTZcB) 242 I give blood regularly. I'm still asked if I've had sex with a man, or somebody born in Africa or kissed a monkey. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:44 PM (3zhEq) 243 The thing with the girls was they may have their lives were terrible but what were they going to do, get a job in a grocery store? The problem is that yes, they actually could but... the pay is a lot less and the work a lot more. So the motivation is not there for a lot of them. These are usually women who got into this because they were willing to do whatever it took to get money and nice things (strippers especially are in this category). So getting them to do more consistent work for lower pay is a very tough sell. She's not gonna get those diamond nipple piercings from the cashier job at Piggly Wiggly. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:44 PM (39g3+) 244 Could a muslim baker be forced to make a bacon cake with bourbon icing? Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front, Splitter Chapter at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (2X7pN) 245 Hmm, Moron Robbie -- I am talking about taking money and walking away, not making a mutual pact to spend you lives together. Can you actually defend the idea that EVERYONE is a prostitute? If that is the case, the term is meaningless. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:43 PM (wjmTS) Well put. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (8gDQu) 246 Some where along the way, Rosanne Barr became the sane female voice of Hollywood stunned Posted by: Rick in SK at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (K2T58) 247 this is terrible Posted by: runner at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (QC/4S) 248 A tiny sip, to prove you're not homophobic. Posted by: Just the Tip at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (EyPfd) 249 I lived in England from 83-84. Because of this I can never give blood again. Tough, but in a way I understand. Giving blood isn't a basic human right. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:41 PM (mV8kt) Mad cow! Posted by: Denny Craine at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (QLvwG) 250 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (lwiT4) 251 Moron Robbie -- I am a widower who was married for 49 years to my late wife. Are you calling her a prostitute? Or me? I hope not. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (wjmTS) 252 239 Interesting. Say, what percent of women pursue, date, and marry almost exclusively for money? 94.76% Give or take 3% Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (oTZcB) 253 Oh, and I'll take the porn people over "mainstream Hollywood" any day. The porn stars are paragons compared to the "respectable" Hollywood stars. And that's no joke. Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (8O3HH) 254 228 You think Paul Ryan told him to resign over idle conversation? Well alrighty then. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (RrhD2) Paul Ryan is scared of his own fucking shadow. Hardly the standard to use. Did you read the article or are you once again just posting crap from your ass to get attention? Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (Enq6K) Dipshit there should have stuck with the advice he gave himself in his first comment here and sat out this thread. Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (lKs2v) 255 "Never, NEVER give any deviant leftist organization or movement an inch. They will want ten miles. " The Boy Scouts should have told them to take a hike. Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (UdKB7) 256 >>Ryan telling someone to resign as just a knee jerk reaction to the cause du jour totally sounds like something Ryan would do. He hasn't called for Farenthold to resign. Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (/tuJf) 257 I'm sorry to hear about this poor woman. I know that many if not most women who go into porn have "issues". Whether they are porn actresses, Playboy centerfolds, or internet camgirls, these women give many men pleasure. I've never had sex with a prostitute, but I've had occasion to e-mail women I've "met" online. I always treated them with respect and spoke to them like actual human beings rather than disembodied photographs. Posted by: rickl at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (sdi6R) 258 Roseanne Barr is pretty woke on this issue as well (in a good way) women always lead the attack on women they consider 'to have stepped out of line' Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (6FqZa) Roseanne was ecstatic over the embassy in Jerusalem move. Posted by: Captain Hate at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (y7DUB) 259 Where does it end? My money's on Harvey Weinstein, Matt Lauer, and Al Franken being sued for not groping transpeople. Homophobic, the lot of them. Posted by: Anachronda at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (v3pYe) 260 >>>Did you read the article or are you once again just posting crap from your ass to get attention? So you are taking Franks statement as the whole story and end of discussion? The guy who literally resigned before anything even broke, but now claims it was nothing? And you say Ryan is scared of his shadow? All I am saying is there is more here and it will come out. Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (RrhD2) 261 "Slap! How you doing? Been concerned." -Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (mV8kt) I'm tired, Hadrian. I'm like a new Dad in charge of a goofball that has regressed to twelve from seventy-four. They did it for me. I'll do it for them. Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (Ckg4U) 262 Ojai is a valley in the hills northeast of Ventura, which is on the coast northwest of LA. Beautiful rural area, horse farms, small town, lots of big-$$$$ residents in country homes, incl. lots of Hollywood people. And not knock off that talk about the long-ago incident involving the daughter of the then-mayor, over at the college dorms, when I was in high school. Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (QDnY+) 263 The counterargument is that it's just a cake, and as long as you're open for business, you have to serve anyone without discrimination Right - because nothing says "I'm being persecuted for my lifestyle" quite like driving 100+ miles out of your way past dozens of other qualified bake shops with a lawfare suit ready to go just so you can persecute someone else for their lifestyle. Posted by: DocJ at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (7bkOX) 264 Did you read the article or are you once again just posting crap from your ass to get attention? Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (Enq6K) .............. Do you really have to ask? Posted by: Tentotwo at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (yhf6w) 265 Interesting. Say, what percent of women pursue, date, and marry almost exclusively for money? Probably the same number of guys who do so just because they thought a girl was sexy. Bad motivations abound. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (39g3+) 266 If you are so homphobic in california that you disagree with common sense law of not considering homo's AIDS ridden blood in the general blood supply you should move. Posted by: Nanzy Polasy at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (3BFzK) 267 250 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (lwiT4) Just heard that. I guess he is going Presby and cutting out the "Trespassers" ha ha Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 07:47 PM (oTZcB) 268 242 I give blood regularly. I'm still asked if I've had sex with a man, or somebody born in Africa or kissed a monkey. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:44 PM (3zhEq) I guess that night with the Ugandan organ grinder wasn't such a good idea. Posted by: Roy at December 07, 2017 07:47 PM (ABjxW) 269 going to do, get a job in a grocery store? The problem is that yes, they actually could but... the pay is a lot less and the work a lot more. So the motivation is not there for a lot of them. These are usually women who got into this because they were willing to do whatever it took to get money and nice things (strippers especially are in this category). So getting them to do more consistent work for lower pay is a very tough sell. She's not gonna get those diamond nipple piercings from the cashier job at Piggly Wiggly. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:44 PM (39g3+) Or pay for your drugs. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:47 PM (3zhEq) 270 Poor girl.....lucky she wasn't a baker though. Another victim of the leftists. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 07, 2017 07:47 PM (EoRCO) 271 Yes, it's bad. But I'm always weary of the "You made them commit suicide" meme. Sht like that is how we get speech police. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at December 07, 2017 07:31 PM (ubJwS) ======== First off, don't be concerned about that take enabling* speech police who are hostile to conservatives. Social media hostile to conservatives are already policing their sites. So we've got nothing to lose by going with that angle. But I agree, it was probably her mental health issues. The important takeaways: the left wants you dead if you disagree with them. Second, on the grievance hierarchy graph, this currently reveals that gay man > straight woman. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 07, 2017 07:47 PM (/qEW2) 272 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? IMPEACH Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 07, 2017 07:47 PM (oVJmc) 273 Ojai is a valley in the hills northeast of Ventura, which is on the coast northwest of LA. Beautiful rural area, horse farms, small town, lots of big-$$$$ residents in country homes, incl. lots of Hollywood people. Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (QDnY+) Ojai is where the Six Million Dollar Man lived, IIRC. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:47 PM (8gDQu) 274 I have been thinking more kindly of Roseanne Barr of late.... I wonder what happened with her??? Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM (zSVEm) 275 And as downright stupid our times are today, just consider that they will be even stupider tomorrow! Posted by: weew at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM (6EH85) 276 250 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (lwiT4) He can try. Go home, Frankie, yer drunk. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM (7UW64) 277 " Could a muslim baker be forced to make a bacon cake with bourbon icing? Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front, Splitter Chapter at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (2X7pN)" ----- To even think of asking mush less ask would be 15 years in POMITA. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM (3BFzK) 278 Probably the same number of guys who do so just because they thought a girl was sexy. Bad motivations abound. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (39g3+) There's nothing bad about either of those motivations. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM (8gDQu) 279 Roseann Barr is insane. I think she chooses how she will react to an issue by throwing darts over her shoulder. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM (39g3+) 280 >>>Dipshit there should have stuck with the advice he gave himself in his first comment here and sat out this thread. Dear angry little dead man, I sat out discussions of someones suicide. Not every single discussion. Thank you for sharing your deep thoughts with me. K, bai Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (RrhD2) 281 Actually I couldn't give blood for a year after returning from Africa. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (3zhEq) 282 Remember me? Posted by: AIDS Quilt at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (bc2Lc) 283 Who wrote the Lord's Prayer, anyways? Was it Matthew, Mark, Luke or John, or Ringo, or Paul? Or was it Jesus Himself? Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (UVCy2) 284 "All I am saying is there is more here and it will come out" There has to be more and he probably resigned in the hope that it would not come out. This is going to keep happening for a while I thinks. Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (UdKB7) 285 Frank is exegeting the Greek I guess. Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (lwiT4) 286 250 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (lwiT4) It'd be cool if he had us going back to saying it in Latin. Posted by: Roy at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (ABjxW) 287 Roseann Barr is insane. I think she chooses how she will react to an issue by throwing darts over her shoulder. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM No way. Given her physical build, It's impossible for her to throw anything over her shoulder. Posted by: Minnfidel at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (VAlay) 288 Ojai is where the Six Million Dollar Man lived, IIRC." Ojai is also where Rocky, Jim's father on the Rockford files, lived. my mind is full of useless trivia Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2017 07:50 PM (V2Yro) 289 Who wrote the Lord's Prayer, anyways? Was it Matthew, Mark, Luke or John, or Ringo, or Paul? Or was it Jesus Himself? Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (UVCy2) Jesus taught them to pray. Posted by: Count de Monet at December 07, 2017 07:50 PM (QLvwG) 290 #LoveWins... Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 07, 2017 07:50 PM (e9G8E) 291 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? I'll wait and see what he actually said. Half of his statements end up not being what the press reports them as. Or pay for your drugs. Yeah, exactly. And the drugs are a major, major issue. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (39g3+) 292 Yeah, but who recorded it? In the Bible, I mean. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (UVCy2) 293 Pater noster, qui es in caelis.... Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (7UW64) 294 288 Ojai is where the Six Million Dollar Man lived, IIRC." Ojai is also where Rocky, Jim's father on the Rockford files, lived. my mind is full of useless trivia Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2017 07:50 PM (V2Yro) --Damn. You can't even monetize that info in a pub quiz. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (GsAUU) 295 216 How do you compel someone to make art? And, more importantly, do you trust art someone was compelled to make? Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood V2 Factory at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (sGtp+) 296 Actually I couldn't give blood for a year after returning from Africa. Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (3zhEq) ------------ Only because you looked like a monkey fucker. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Some of my best friends have gone native over there. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (3BFzK) 297 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? == wonder why JPII never thought of it..or Paul VI... Posted by: runner at December 07, 2017 07:52 PM (QC/4S) 298 Twitter wants to stop bullying???? IT IS BULLYING! Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 07, 2017 07:52 PM (oVJmc) 299 OT: Any chance TFG and FvPS are having a minions outed contest? And how many served both? Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2017 07:52 PM (FhXTo) 300 216 How do you compel someone to make art? Catholic school nun art teacher. Yard stick. Some aseembly required. Posted by: Roy at December 07, 2017 07:52 PM (ABjxW) 301 CaliGirl take care and best of luck, any other horde members as well. Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2017 07:52 PM (aC6Sd) 302 292 Yeah, but who recorded it? In the Bible, I mean. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (UVCy2) It's in the Gospels a couple of times, in slightly different versions. I can't imagine what Frankie is thinking about this topic, but then, I can't imagine what he is thinking on just about any topic. Guy's a nutcase and hopefully not long for this spot in the hierarchy. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:52 PM (7UW64) 303 "All I am saying is there is more here and it will come out" Sounds like something Mistress of Pain might say. Posted by: Count de Monet at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (QLvwG) 304 I'm always weary of the "You made them commit suicide" meme. I am too, especially the "social media did it" nonsense. No, they did not. They might have made you feel bad but there are much deeper issues that drives someone to suicide, not some mean crack from someone random. But the key problem here is pressuring women to have sex with homosexuals and pretend AIDS is not an issue. There's a severe problem in the homosexual community to pretend/demand that AIDS simply isn't there when its like the 50,000 ton space whale crushing the entire building. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (39g3+) 305 Filioli, custodite vos a simulacris. Amen. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (GsAUU) 306 Go home, Frankie, yer drunk. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:48 PM (7UW64) His boy friend has the clap and he's pissed. Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (oTZcB) 307 Geez, missed a lot of TV so never new about the TV series connections to Ojai. Just visited there for the first time in 30 years, a few weeks ago. Good timing, it appears. It's a pretty valley, impressive peaks to the east, but the best part of the drive was the oil seeping out of the hillside along Hwy 150 on the way to Santa Paula (this is right where the biggest fire now raging in Ventura started). Literally, "oil in them thar hills!". Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (QDnY+) 308 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM I know my wife didn't marry me for my money, At the time I was dead ass broke, I had just started my business and was driving a 20 year old truck that would decide which days it was going to start. The poor woman is a glutton for punishment, and I'm the luckiest moron on the planet. Posted by: Minnfidel at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (VAlay) 309 >>>293 ~~Pater~~ Parente noster, qui es in caelis.... Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:51 PM (7UW64) FIFY... Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (e9G8E) 310 Yikes! The stereotype of porn stars as stable, well-adjusted people might take a hit after this one. Posted by: FaCubeItches at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (rznWS) 311 Well, this could put a slightly different twist on things. He didn't discuss surrogacy with female staffers, he asked if they would BE a surrogate. https://tinyurl.com/y8jpjq42 Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (/tuJf) 312 >>"All I am saying is there is more here and it will come out" I think these are the types of scenes the Actresses get a premium for. Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (GQu4B) 313 Regarding Franks - i looked up some Arizona articles, looks like he was all set to run for Senator in 2012, and suddenly something happened that caused him to drop out of that race in a hurry, without much explanation. But his congressional seat was safe, and he had no serious opponent. Lots of rumors over the years that he would do anything to keep the 2012 info from going public. Apparently, that now includes resigning his congressional seat. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (V2Yro) 314 286 250 FOX News says Pope Frank wants to change the Lord's Prayer. Anyone hear about this? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:45 PM (lwiT4) It'd be cool if he had us going back to saying it in Latin. Posted by: Roy at December 07, 2017 07:49 PM (ABjxW) Who died and left him in charge??? Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (zSVEm) 315 290 #LoveWins... Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 07, 2017 07:50 PM (e9G8E) Love means wanting the highest and best for the beloved. That means, practically, wanted them to get to heaven. It does not mean making them feel better about their sins, or celebrating their march lockstep into hell, either on earth or thereafter. I really wish the idiots who coined that phrase would define it beyond the bumper-sticker phase. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (7UW64) 316 Lord's Prayer: Matthew 6: 5-13 Luke: 11: 1-4 They are nearly identical in wording. Some believe that the final phrase "for yours is the lkingdom, the power, and the glory" was tacked on by later monks, but that's just supposition. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (39g3+) 317 You will be made to get AIDS. Posted by: Max Power at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (q177U) 318 It's a pretty valley, impressive peaks to the east, but the best part of the drive was the oil seeping out of the hillside along Hwy 150 on the way to Santa Paula (this is right where the biggest fire now raging in Ventura started). Literally, "oil in them thar hills!". Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (QDnY+) --Sounds like someone's milkshake got drunk. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (GsAUU) 319 Our Allah peace be upon your name. Your Paradise come...with 72 virgins... Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (3BFzK) 320 I just looked up the Greek. I use Nestle-Aland. It doesn't say lead us to temptation so much as , lead us not into a trial. (The word in arabic would be fitna.) It's not the Greek that changed so much as the English. It's always been a problem for Christians to explain to, say, Muslims. Because how could God lead His people into fitna. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (6FqZa) 321 But the key problem here is pressuring women to have sex with homosexuals and pretend AIDS is not an issue. There's a severe problem in the homosexual community to pretend/demand that AIDS simply isn't there when its like the 50,000 ton space whale crushing the entire building. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (39g3+) It's not just AIDS, it's STDs generally, which are rife in the homosexual community, and which keep getting reintroduced into the normal population by way of bisexuals. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (YqDXo) 322 How do you make an artist create art? Hey, Meeser Michael-Angelo, you gonna maka bigga picture ona the ceiling a da Sistinea Chapela, or else you gonno go to Hell, you unnerstan? An iffa you needa know more, letta me introduca you to my frienda here, the Luige. Hesa gooda ata explainina thingsa. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:56 PM (wjmTS) 323 just never know. Asia Carrera was a concert pianist, National Merit Scholar and Mensa member. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 07:36 PM (NWiLs) Yeah but she is Asian . What did you expect? Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 07:56 PM (2DOZq) 324 OMG.. hubby is trying to book our airline tickets and he's already called me back there 3 times. Spelled my middle name wrong. sigh Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at December 07, 2017 07:56 PM (CNHr1) 325 Whatever happened to all those "conservative" cardinals JPII and Benedict appointed. Must be the Vatican equivalent of GOPe brand konservatism. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:56 PM (4ErVI) 326 :::brushes dirt off shoulder::: Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Ho Ho Hoing to the Holidays at December 07, 2017 07:56 PM (RrhD2) 327 Here's some trivia: Comment #305 is the last verse of the first epistle of the last Apostle. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:57 PM (GsAUU) 328 Unserious at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (3BFzK) 320 I just looked up the Greek. I use Nestle-Aland. It doesn't say lead us to temptation so much as , lead us not into a trial. (The word in arabic would be fitna.) It's not the Greek that changed so much as the English. It's always been a problem for Christians to explain to, say, Muslims. Because how could God lead His people into fitna. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (6FqZa) What? Research? Is that allowed? Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:57 PM (3zhEq) 329 It is so dry here- 2-3% humidity - it is hard to breath. And I'm not even near any smoke. Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2017 07:57 PM (Mjus2) 330 202 Sooo... Not believing that there would be such a thing as a "Satanic Black Mass Cake", I Googled it... And found black Jello (tm) too. There are a couple of boxes of Jello on display in the Rigby room at the Philo T. Farnsworth museum (recommended). The flavors are celery and (IIRC) tomato basil. Can't imagine why those two didn't take off. Posted by: Anachronda at December 07, 2017 07:57 PM (sGtp+) 331 Our Father, Who Art In Government Hallowed Be Thy Entitlement Give us this day our daily bread and circuses And give us our EBT's Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 07:57 PM (UVCy2) 332 They did it for me. I'll do it for them. Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 07, 2017 07:46 PM (Ckg4U) God bless. Don't keep the burden to yourself. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2017 07:57 PM (OSTMp) 333 The prayer Jesus laid out as an example of how we should pray is in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke. Matthew is more complete. Commonly called the Lord's prayer, I've always thought it should more accurately be called the disciples' prayer. Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:57 PM (lwiT4) 334 I think Pope Frank takes issue with the English translation of the "lead us not into temptation" part because it suggests that it is God who steers us, not our own volition. Or something. Posted by: weew at December 07, 2017 07:58 PM (6EH85) 335 Roc Ingersol : she's half German you know. what do Germans know about math ?? Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:58 PM (6FqZa) 336 The flavors are celery and (IIRC) tomato basil. I've actually had some celery jello, its not bad. The thing to remember is that gelatin isn't always used as a dessert, so it would have uses, but Americans couldn't work their heads around it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:58 PM (39g3+) 337 Commonly called the Lord's prayer, I've always thought it should more accurately be called the disciples' prayer. Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 I agree with you. FWIW Posted by: Northernlurker at December 07, 2017 07:58 PM (3zhEq) 338 Of all the worst idiotic things Frankie has said - and that's quite a list, of course - the biggest ones all turned out to be in, not out, of context. At least that's my impression. His statement yesterday on the US embassy/Jerusalem thing, while not the most spectacular, is one of the more puzzling and seemingly dumb ones. The Israelis have been stellar custodians of the various religious sites, and the papal nuncio certainly must have good relations with the Israeli govt. So piping up on this one was, to use an HQ favorite, an "unforced error". Unless it's all just about some appeasement of the gangsters running Bethlehem. Which would be Frankie's and the Vatican's speed. Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (QDnY+) 339 The Lord's Prayer is a beautiful thing. So well written and it sounds just as beautiful when spoken. Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is in a similar vein. If you take each phrase of The Lord's Prayer and analyzed it, you could write a hefty book on the whole thing. Trivia: The Beach Boys recorded an a capella version of The Lord's Prayer on their Christmas album. Their soaring harmonies give off chills. Give it a listen. Posted by: Count de Monet at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (QLvwG) 340 Conyers accuser on Tucker's show. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (GsAUU) 341 OT but going back to the last thread about Pearl Harbor I can't help but think about the juxtaposition. We went from the guys who served in WW2 to Lindseee Vaughn whining about who her president is. Sorry if this is harsh. But I hope she blows her fucking knee out again in trials. Bitch. Posted by: Minnfidel at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (VAlay) 342 Well, this could put a slightly different twist on things. He didn't discuss surrogacy with female staffers, he asked if they would BE a surrogate. https://tinyurl.com/y8jpjq42 Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (/tuJf) I still don't see a problem. Finding a suitable surrogate is probably a very, very difficult thing and I assume anyone with sense would want to have one who he knew, to some extent. It's not office talk, for sure, but it's not harassment of any sort. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (8gDQu) 343 Bake the cake the way I like or turn over all of your possessions to us. Posted by: homotyrants at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (6dFYM) 344 316 Lord's Prayer: Matthew 6: 5-13 Luke: 11: 1-4 They are nearly identical in wording. Some believe that the final phrase "for yours is the lkingdom, the power, and the glory" was tacked on by later monks, but that's just supposition. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (39g3+) The doxology is not attached to the Lord's Prayer in the Gospels. It is a separate thing. Protestants often attach it, but Catholics, as a rule, do not, except in the Novus Ordo Mass. It is not in the Latin Mass. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (7UW64) 345 335 Roc Ingersol : she's half German you know. what do Germans know about math ?? Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 07:58 PM (6FqZa) I might know a tzing or zwei about ze maths. Posted by: Werner Von Braun at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (NWiLs) 346 334 I think Pope Frank takes issue with the English translation of the "lead us not into temptation" part because it suggests that it is God who steers us, not our own volition. Or something. Posted by: weew at December 07, 2017 07:58 PM (6EH85) Frank seems to have too much time on his hands... maybe take up a hobby... Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (zSVEm) 347 304 I'm always weary of the "You made them commit suicide" meme. I am too, especially the "social media did it" nonsense. No, they did not. They might have made you feel bad but there are much deeper issues that drives someone to suicide, not some mean crack from someone random. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 07:53 PM (39g3+) It's called conditioning. Positive and negative rewards and punishments. Learned helplessness. You can be conditioned, brainwashed, and abused to the point of killing yourself or trying to. Any psychologist or psychiatrist or Doctor knows this. Try being a psychologist and telling somebody to kill themselves. Or a doctor. Or a nurse. There is a reason why, they would be charged with murder when they get caught doing it. Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 08:00 PM (g4lFK) 348 So, Ryan forced Franks to resign because he discussed the surrogacy process and heartache of trying to have children in front of female staffers who were made uncomfortable by such talk. He did not ask them to be surrogates, he did not quid pro quo them into bein surrogates, he merely talked about the experiences he and his wife had, as any father going through tough fertility issues will do because it is stressful and often helpful to talk to other people about, not to mention being a surrogate/ adoptive/ foster parent usually evokes a barrage of questions. These g-d snowflakes and their "this makes me uncomfortable, so you must be fired and never work again" bullshit has to stop. Somebody has to stand up to it and say enough. Ryan is obviously not that person. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 08:00 PM (BoMuO) 349 Was confirmed by BIshop Skalba (Milwaukee) back in '87 and was disappointed that it wasn't Archbishop Weakland at the time. Now I was glad it wasn't Weakland (sp?) BTW, end times, it's bloody snowing in CENTEX. My sis up in WI, no snow. Go figure. Posted by: auscolpyr at December 07, 2017 08:00 PM (pzA2L) 350 You've had enough children...report for your fetus donation. Posted by: Planned Parenthood at December 07, 2017 08:00 PM (6dFYM) 351 Sleepy Jeff is at it again. DOJ request Planned Parenthood document from Congress for investigation. https://tinyurl.com/y85vqekv Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 08:01 PM (/tuJf) 352 Who died and left him in charge??? Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 07:55 PM (zSVEm) He didn't die, THAT is why this pope is so strange/ Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 08:01 PM (oTZcB) 353 334 I think Pope Frank takes issue with the English translation of the "lead us not into temptation" part because it suggests that it is God who steers us, not our own volition. Or something. Posted by: weew at December 07, 2017 07:58 PM (6EH85) Yeah, it needs a comma after "us." To make sense. That is. Uh.... Yeah. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:01 PM (7UW64) 354 You haven't paid your fair share, break yourself fool. Posted by: IRS at December 07, 2017 08:01 PM (6dFYM) 355 'It's not office talk, for sure, but it's not harassment of any sort.' Depends on how he brought it up. If it was "Hey do you want to have my baby?" then it could be a problem. Posted by: freaked at December 07, 2017 08:01 PM (UdKB7) 356 Protestants often attach it, but Catholics, as a rule, do not, except in the Novus Ordo Mass They (well, we) stop the prayer at that point and the priest says something. Then arms are raised and we say it. It isn't in the Gospel. It's in the Didache though and that is a very old text. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 08:01 PM (6FqZa) 357 Steyn: I'd rather have a House of Lords than a hereditary people's congress. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:01 PM (GsAUU) 358 Well seeing that Jesus was allowed to be tempted , the Lords Prayer as said is not an issue for me . Besides temptation and tests can mean the same to me and I do believe God tests us on occasion. Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (2DOZq) 359 JackStraw, you mean to tell me that asking a staffer to have your baby is now out of line?! Sheesh, what's the world coming to. Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (QDnY+) 360 Paul Ryan is scared of his own fucking shadow. Hardly the standard to use. Did you read the article or are you once again just posting crap from your ass to get attention? Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:42 PM (Enq6K) Ryan is an asshat no doubt but Frank should have (and likely would have) told Ryan to GFH if the accusation was that spurious. That story reeks of the other shoe that may or may not drop. Posted by: redbanzai at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (FTXAT) 361 342 Well, this could put a slightly different twist on things. He didn't discuss surrogacy with female staffers, he asked if they would BE a surrogate. https://tinyurl.com/y8jpjq42 Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (/tuJf) I still don't see a problem. Finding a suitable surrogate is probably a very, very difficult thing and I assume anyone with sense would want to have one who he knew, to some extent. It's not office talk, for sure, but it's not harassment of any sort. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 07:59 PM (8gDQu) How is that sexual harassment? Sounds like pure projection from the female staffers to me. It wasn't sexual. They made it sexual in their heads and feelz. Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (g4lFK) 362 To paraphrase someone who used to comment here: 'Were someone to suggest five or ten years ago that tyranny would come to America under the aegis of gay marriage, everyone would have thought he'd gone mad! It doesn't seem so far-fetched now, does it?' h/t "AD" (pbuh!) Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (e9G8E) 363 Pope Frank looks like that dancing Six Flags dude. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (4ErVI) 364 I think Pope Frank takes issue with the English translation of the "lead us not into temptation" part because it suggests that it is God who steers us, not our own volition. Very old debate in Christianity about origins of sin, free will, sovereignty of God, responsibility of man, theodicy, etc. Somehow I doubt he's got the chops to solve that one. At least some parts of the Bible seem to very strongly imply that God at least at times causes people to do wrong. Others seem to imply that it is entirely our responsibility. My guess is: its too big for us to comprehend. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (39g3+) 365 Intuition tells me the conversations about "surrogacy" were a lot more explicit and detailed than his explanation. Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (Mjus2) 366 Prayers, Slap Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (hMwEB) 367 >>He did not ask them to be surrogates Yea. he did. Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (/tuJf) 368 You can be conditioned, brainwashed, and abused to the point of killing yourself or trying to. Any psychologist or psychiatrist or Doctor knows this. I learnt at ... a certain blog, that someone who is weak willed can be socially-conditioned to say and do things that one will later wish one hadn't. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (6FqZa) 369 Our cars here in Santa Barbara are covered in ash as if there was a minor snow storm. Only it stays there until you casually blow it off. Thomas fire update is that it is now about 15+/- miles SSE of us. It tore up the coast once it hit the pacific. All schools and (of course) government has stopped. 5% contained. 96,000 acres burnt and making its way along the coast. Good things are supposed forecasts of less Santa Anas and running into large areas of avocado orchards, not brush and manzanita. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (3BFzK) 370 BTW, end times, it's bloody snowing in CENTEX. My sis up in WI, no snow. Go figure. Posted by: auscolpyr at December 07, 2017 08:00 PM (pzA2L) --It sleeted this morning in EP. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (GsAUU) 371 It seems like Trent Franks went beyond describing the surrogate pregnancy process and he got graphic with, perhaps, his "seed." Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (UVCy2) 372 You best buy our pal Elon's electric car because because you can't use gas. Posted by: California at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (6dFYM) 373 I know my wife didn't marry me for my money, At the time I was dead ass broke, I had just started my business and was driving a 20 year old truck that would decide which days it was going to start. The poor woman is a glutton for punishment, and I'm the luckiest moron on the planet. Posted by: Minnfidel at December 07, 2017 07:54 PM (VAlay) A 12 inch dick overcomes a lot of problems, ha ha Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (oTZcB) 374 she was bullied by SJW - THAT is a fact Posted by: runner at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (QC/4S) 375 336 I've actually had some celery jello, its not bad. I don't even understand the point of celery flavored celery. Posted by: Anachronda at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (sGtp+) 376 325 Whatever happened to all those "conservative" cardinals JPII and Benedict appointed. Must be the Vatican equivalent of GOPe brand konservatism. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2017 07:56 PM (4ErVI) JPII was rotten at that sort of thing. He appointed whomever was put forward to him. But, there are several, and they are getting more influence, and they have spines of steel. Chaput, Burke, Morlino, et. al. They aren't slinging arrows and calling names, but they are quietly remaking the Church into what it once was. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (7UW64) 377 Having my surrogate baby, What a lovely way of saying how much you love me. Posted by: Paul Anka at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (QLvwG) 378 >>>I've actually had some celery jello, its not bad. I don't even understand the point of celery flavored celery. Posted by: Anachronda at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (sGtp+) LOL. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (8gDQu) 379 The Lord's Prayer is a beautiful thing. So well written and it sounds just as beautiful when spoken. It's poetic in the original Greek. I haven't checked out the Aramaic translation but the translators are said to have done well with that, too. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (6FqZa) 380 At least some parts of the Bible seem to very strongly imply that God at least at times causes people to do wrong. Others seem to imply that it is entirely our responsibility. Hardening Pharaoh's heart, for example. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (NWiLs) 381 FakePopeFrankie better not mess with the Lord's Prayer! ObiWanBenedict, you're our last hope! Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (hMwEB) 382 The politico article doesn't mention franks asking the female staffers to be surrogates, only that he discussed fertility issues and past surrogacies with them present. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (BoMuO) 383 Now bacon flavored celery -- that could be a hit. checks DNA of celery Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (wjmTS) 384 You can be conditioned, brainwashed, and abused to the point of killing yourself or trying to. Any psychologist or psychiatrist or Doctor knows this. And they also know that there's something inside you that makes you go along, or fight back. Its not simply humans being robotically controlled. That's abject nonsense. I've been there. Several times. Like, one footstep away from the abyss. I know what is going on and why. Its not outside pressure that trips that switch. Its something inside you that takes the final step. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (39g3+) 385 Even when I was a pagan I would not have considered surrogacy, ever. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (GsAUU) 386 A 12 inch dick overcomes a lot of problems, ha ha Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (oTZcB) My daddy told me that a woman couldn't be a good architect because men had told her for years that six inches was a whole foot. Sometimes three. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (7UW64) 387 I don't even understand the point of celery flavored celery. Posted by: Anachronda at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM Have you tried cream of fichus? Posted by: Minnfidel at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (VAlay) 388 They (well, we) stop the prayer at that point and the priest says something. Then arms are raised and we say it. ================================= Boulder Terlit Hobo - Are you attending Catholic church now? If so, I think that's wonderful. Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (lwiT4) 389 364 ....... At least some parts of the Bible seem to very strongly imply that God at least at times causes people to do wrong. Others seem to imply that it is entirely our responsibility. My guess is: its too big for us to comprehend. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (39g3+) Ah, the old... " and God hardened Pharoah's heart" issue... from Exodus.... and from there to John 6:44, and therabouts....good times, good times. Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (zSVEm) 390 Trivia. How many disciples did Jesus have? Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (2DOZq) 391 >>The politico article doesn't mention franks asking the female staffers to be surrogates, only that he discussed fertility issues and past surrogacies with them present https://tinyurl.com/y8jpjq42 Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (/tuJf) 392 Even when I was a pagan I would not have considered surrogacy, ever. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (GsAUU) Don't have to be a pagan. Frankly, concubines are more fun than surrogates. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (8gDQu) 393 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (3BFzK) --Is the Thomas fire the one near Ojai? I just learnt Ojai is near SB. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (GsAUU) 394 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:03 PM (3BFzK) The smoke is terrible in the Valley this afternoon. really bad, I can't imagine what it's like in Santa Barbara. I hope they get it under control and you are safe. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (Ri/rl) 395 I have no knowledge of the facts regarding Cong. Franks' situation, and will expend zero energy in getting smart about them, because whatever, but it seems to at least fall into the category of: henceforth never discuss any topic related to the Two True Genders, or Teh Secks, with anyone at the workplace. Ever. Whatever your rank in the hierarchy. Period. Just to be safe. Seems like that's where we are. Pence Rule for meetings, total gag order (heh) at all times, certain topics verboten. Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (QDnY+) 396 It's poetic in the original Greek. I haven't checked out the Aramaic translation but the translators are said to have done well with that, too. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (6FqZa) Learned it in Latin. It stays that way, even when I say it in English. The Latin is quite clear in meaning. I don't know the Greek worth a darn, but I suspect it is not misleading, either. Frankie has a screw loose. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (7UW64) 397 And the slippery slope people were endlessly mocked. It's all so predictable. When I first came to this site (some 10 years ago) some prescient person posted an article that converted her (as a liberal leaning libertarian) from supporting gay marriage. I've looked for the article since but haven't found it. But I remember it vividly. I was already against gay marriage and didn't like the direction things were going but this article was an eye-opener even to me. The premise was that it was all about the 'fringe'. Back then, the argument that people used to support gay marriage (and got libertarian/liberal people all hot and bothered) was a sarcastic, "Yeah, I'm going to go out and marry some guy even though I'm straight...blah, blah, blah." That this could actually effect the populous at large was too much for their vain and selfish selves to consider. "I'm married and it won't effect me...blah, blah, blah." Well, the article with proofs pointed out that of course it won't effect you (Mr. and Mrs. Stable) but it WILL effect the fringe. And when the fringe is effected it is only a matter of time before it will effect you. The fringe are marginal people with marginal circumstances. They'd be the equivalent to borderline personalities. They can go either way. That's how you get some 95% (made up stat) of white babies being born in wedlock to only 65 (made up stat) referring to their co-parents as baby-momma, baby-daddy. It's the fringe that falls first. It won't be you - mister and Miss stable libertarian. Posted by: The Media Suxs at December 07, 2017 08:08 PM (CE0QQ) 398 Al Wanken said something today that made me have certain thoughts. Franken, again, called himself a "champion for women." So I wondered how he earned this title. Is he a "champion for women" simply because he supports Planned Parenthood and abortion in all forms and manners? If so, then, and here's the interesting part, if half of abortions kill unborn baby girls who will later become Women, then how is Al Franken a "champion of women" when he supports killing so many of them?? Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 08:08 PM (UVCy2) 399 My daddy told me that a woman couldn't be a good architect because men had told her for years that six inches was a whole foot. Sometimes three." ----- Clearly that is in circumference. No woman ever called me foot long but a whole bunch called me Colt 45. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:08 PM (3BFzK) 400 I've been in Ojai. Lots of very rich folk live there. Heh, may their mansions burn and the stones be scattered and strewn with salt. Oh, wait, sorry. Didn't say that. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 08:08 PM (wjmTS) 401 By and large, all of the Senators and Congresscritters are scumbags. Nobody goes to Washington to be a noble champion of the people. They are all power hungry shitbags who only get elected to enrich themselves. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (BoMuO) 402 --Is the Thomas fire the one near Ojai? I just learnt Ojai is near SB. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (GsAUU) Yes, that's the fire that started in Ventura. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (Ri/rl) 403 In other words, how many unborn Women has Al Franken, champion of women, helped kill? Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (UVCy2) 404 390 Trivia. How many disciples did Jesus have? Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (2DOZq) Well, are you one? He sent out 72, and he kept back 12, one of which went rotten, and was replaced after the fact.... Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (7UW64) 405 The smoke is terrible in the Valley this afternoon. really bad, I can't imagine what it's like in Santa Barbara. I hope they get it under control and you are safe. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (Ri/rl) Been thinking about you. Did you all get all the crops in before this stuff? Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (oTZcB) 406 Chaput, Burke, Morlino, et. al. They aren't slinging arrows and calling names, but they are quietly remaking the Church into what it once was. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:04 PM (7UW64) --Yes, they're good. But . . . I sooooo want a another Cardinal O'Connor. The Trump of prelates. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (GsAUU) 407 As far as the Christian baker, he was perfectly willing to sell them any cake or other product that was already made. What they wanted from him was to produce a one-of-a-kind custom artistic creation to order. They wanted him to make art. How do you compel someone to make art? Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 07:40 PM (lwiT4) ======== How can you compel a business to sell you a product you don't currently offer? If the toy section at the local drug store doesn't have the toy you want, can you sue them for not having the same inventory as Macy's? As you note, the issue is that there was no discrimination, since they could've bought any of the products currently offered by the bakery. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (/qEW2) 408 Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (7UW64) --The joke I heard was about why women are so bad at parallel parking. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (GsAUU) 409 238 Hmm, Moron Robbie -- I am talking about taking money and walking away, not making a mutual pact to spend you lives together. Can you actually defend the idea that EVERYONE is a prostitute? If that is the case, the term is meaningless. Posted by: Ruthless at December 07, 2017 07:43 PM (wjmTS) --- I didn't post the position: 135 Definition: Prostitute--a person who offers sex for money or other value. This applies whether it involves the actual one-on-one act, or the public display via the Internet, motion picture theater, or whatever. -- FWIW, I'm fine not defining "marrying up" as prostitution. Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (y8m+O) 410 How many "future women presidents and doctors" has Planned Parenthood killed? This is the question we should be asking. Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (UVCy2) 411 404 390 Trivia. How many disciples did Jesus have? Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 08:06 PM (2DOZq) Well, are you one? He sent out 72, and he kept back 12, one of which went rotten, and was replaced after the fact.... Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (7UW64) Would you say that Jesus had a plethora of Disciples??? Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (zSVEm) 412 I'm tired, Hadrian. I'm like a new Dad in charge of a goofball that has regressed to twelve from seventy-four. They did it for me. I'll do it for them. Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Word. Been there. (Miss ya, dad.) Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (lLeln) 413 I've just read that homosexual "marriage" has been legalised in Oz today... Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (e9G8E) 414 anndd... we are booked!! Going to AZ next summer!! Whoo hoo!! Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at December 07, 2017 08:11 PM (CNHr1) 415 Learned it in Latin. It stays that way, even when I say it in English. The Latin is quite clear in meaning. I don't know the Greek worth a darn, but I suspect it is not misleading, either. Frankie has a screw loose. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (7UW64) I hate you people. I couldn't figure out Spanish and my son took Latin 10 and won the HS award. Aggh Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 08:11 PM (oTZcB) 416 Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (Ri/rl) Been thinking about you. Did you all get all the crops in before this stuff? Posted by: George at December 07, 2017 08:09 PM (oTZcB) We farm north of Santa Barbara. There's not any ash yet. Oxnard area produce must be a total loss. You can't sell vegetables that have ash on them. We farm year round just like in Oxnard. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:11 PM (Ri/rl) 417 Would you say that Jesus had a plethora of Disciples??? Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (zSVEm) Oh, si. He had a plethora. Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 07, 2017 08:11 PM (NWiLs) 418 nood? yep a nood Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at December 07, 2017 08:11 PM (UVCy2) 419 So the subject and specific details of that subject Franks discusses with his staff was uncomfortable for them but no big deal to mandatory class and discussed with elementary school kids. Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 07, 2017 08:12 PM (2DOZq) 420 >>Roseann Barr is insane. I think she chooses how she will react to an issue by throwing darts over her shoulder. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor I have a relative that knows her. Posted by: John McCain's Brain Tumor at December 07, 2017 08:12 PM (2cuLk) 421 logprof, pretty sure the Thomas fire is the one threatening Ojai. It started up near there (near Thomas Aquinas College, I think, which lies on the 150 from Ojai to Santa Paula). There are decent maps on the various twitter timelines on the fire. There are other fires with different names in LA, Malibu, to the east of LA. Thomas is the much bigger one by area, pretty obvious on the maps up in Ventura area. Moving north. So far no excitement in San Diego. One small fire way up north, east of Camp Pendleton area (and Camp Pendleton almost always has fires when it's dry, they tend to stay contained on that vast reservation and often don't make the news). Winds have been pretty amazing though. If something gets going, it's gonna be a disaster in these conditions. Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2017 08:12 PM (QDnY+) 422 413 I've just read that homosexual "marriage" has been legalised in Oz today... Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (e9G8E) It's the Castro district, all the way down, and I do mean down. Buttsecks in the streets. Crikey. Posted by: tcn in AK at December 07, 2017 08:12 PM (7UW64) 423 How can you compel a business to sell you a product you don't currently offer? If the toy section at the local drug store doesn't have the toy you want, can you sue them for not having the same inventory as Macy's? As you note, the issue is that there was no discrimination, since they could've bought any of the products currently offered by the bakery. Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 07, 2017 08:10 PM (/qEW2) ======================= Good point. I listened to someone from the Colson Center who was present during arguments. He said he thought it went well for the baker's side. Posted by: grammie winger at December 07, 2017 08:13 PM (lwiT4) 424 He sent out 72, and he kept back 12, one of which went rotten, and was replaced after the fact.... Judas! .....a beverage? Posted by: tu3031 at December 07, 2017 08:14 PM (O5Q3r) 425 Just get rolling and then a nood pops up, now you have to start all over Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2017 08:15 PM (aC6Sd) 426 I just learnt Ojai is near SB. Posted by: logprof at December 07, 2017 08:07 PM (GsAUU) ------ Very close. as the crow flies about 20 miles. by the highways about 30.Pretty country but once you get over the coastal range hot as fck. The way the terrain works is where the fire started Santa Paula/ Fillmore the mountains/foothills run to the pacific. Then at the pacific you have the coastal range that runs parallel to the ocean. Fire got to the coastal range last night and headed right toward us. It has concerned me enough that we have the RV prepped and all the major stuff ready to go. If the wind goes bad, the fire could be here in ten hours. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:15 PM (3BFzK) 427 384 You can be conditioned, brainwashed, and abused to the point of killing yourself or trying to. Any psychologist or psychiatrist or Doctor knows this. And they also know that there's something inside you that makes you go along, or fight back. Its not simply humans being robotically controlled. That's abject nonsense. I've been there. Several times. Like, one footstep away from the abyss. I know what is going on and why. Its not outside pressure that trips that switch. Its something inside you that takes the final step. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2017 08:05 PM (39g3+) Been there to with a incurable painful neurological condition and my wife telling me almost daily I should kill myslef, calling me worthless, a burden, and giving me the method to do it among other suggestions and abuses for almost 2 years. If you can't leave your home and have no where to go, you will pull the trigger. It de-humanizes a you. So riddle me this. What do you do if you can't escape the conditioning and suggestions? As a disabled man I had no where to go but death. Psychopaths kill by suicide. Been there and lucky to have lived through it. Where should I have gone? Cops? Nope. Legal route? Nope. Domestic violence shelters? Nope, zero for men. No options for me. So what should I have done? Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 08:15 PM (g4lFK) 428 We will have to wait to see what the context of the discussion on surrogacy was but I can attest how crazy things have. There was an incident in my office where some guys where I work were engaged in some salty talk and a woman overheard it and complained, next day sexual harrassment notices went out to everyone. So a woman can get someone fired for hearing something they don't like. It's bullshit. Posted by: Kreplach at December 07, 2017 08:20 PM (HCWiW) 429 Mueller has an atty on his team that was Clinton's IT staffer's atty in private server probe. Unbelievable.... Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 08:20 PM (Enq6K) 430 Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) announced Thursday that he would resign from office as of Jan. 31, 2018, after discussing surrogacy issues with female staffers. "I have recently learned that the Ethics Committee is reviewing an inquiry regarding my discussion of surrogacy with two previous female subordinates, making each feel uncomfortable," he said in a statement. "I deeply regret that my discussion of this option and process in the workplace caused distress." The shark has been jumped.... Posted by: Tami at December 07, 2017 07:27 PM (Enq6K) Now was he discussing surrogacy in the abstract, which I would say is neither here nor there, or was he sounding them out as possible candidates, which certainly would be creepy? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2017 08:21 PM (H+ulh) 431 It has concerned me enough that we have the RV prepped and all the major stuff ready to go. If the wind goes bad, the fire could be here in ten hours. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:15 PM (3BFzK) Prayers up junkin. Pismo coast village is offering free re parking for displaced people. They may be full. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:22 PM (Ri/rl) 432 Where does it end? ---------------------- Usually piles of skeletons in ditches with us on our knees Posted by: Mega at December 07, 2017 08:23 PM (rv0Fo) 433 @88: "The left is so inconsistent and disgusting." Not quite, more like: "The left is so consistently disgusting" FIFY Posted by: Bruce at December 07, 2017 08:28 PM (7rlrd) 434 Fuck those people in particular Posted by: Sam in VA at December 07, 2017 08:30 PM (Nqq7o) 435 If we lose this court case, I'm headed to the nearest queer bakery to order a "Matthew Shepherd Cake" Posted by: Sam in VA at December 07, 2017 08:32 PM (Nqq7o) 436 How is that sexual harassment? Sounds like pure projection from the female staffers to me. It wasn't sexual. They made it sexual in their heads and feelz. Posted by: Monk at December 07, 2017 08:02 PM (g4lFK) I would say that it might make the women staffers feel pressured to comply, or possibly lose favor in the workplace. Even if Franks never applied pressure himself, there might be competitive pressure amongst the women themselves. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2017 08:47 PM (H+ulh) 437 Prayers up junkin. Pismo coast village is offering free re parking for displaced people. They may be full. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:22 PM (Ri/rl) ---------- Thanks CG! I thin Flying Flags in Buelton is doing the same thing. I'm just covering my bases because I would be pissed if I didn't. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:53 PM (3BFzK) 438 "Where does it end?" Where did it begin? Posted by: pst314 at December 07, 2017 09:02 PM (16pX7) 439 Bill Ayers forced his girlfriend to submit to gang rape: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/12/12_4_2017_2_6.html Posted by: pst314 at December 07, 2017 09:03 PM (16pX7) 440 Bitches, man. Posted by: say anything at December 07, 2017 09:04 PM (sNwPN) 441 Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 08:22 PM (Ri/rl) ---------- Thanks CG! I thin Flying Flags in Buelton is doing the same thing. I'm just covering my bases because I would be pissed if I didn't. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 07, 2017 08:53 PM (3BFzK) I think they are too, If you are hard up, I have room for a camper but no hook ups. KT on the gardening thread has my e-mail and so does Misanthropic. Posted by: CaliGirl at December 07, 2017 09:06 PM (Ri/rl) 442 JackStraw, you mean to tell me that asking a staffer to have your baby is now out of line?!* Was that wrong??? Posted by: Oedipus at December 07, 2017 09:32 PM (CXLVd) 443 True combat has only one result. And one winner. Posted by: say anything at December 07, 2017 09:51 PM (sNwPN) 444 If you bigots don't want to have sex with traps or gays you should be arrested for hate crimes. Posted by: Wapo reporter at December 07, 2017 10:24 PM (jxw6R) 445 "You will be MADE to care." If they make me care enough, they'll regret it. Posted by: Zapp Branigan at December 07, 2017 10:42 PM (sXArT) 446 Porn star rights...really stupid cause to champion. Posted by: Muns at December 07, 2017 11:40 PM (fO+6C) 447 11 Follow this slippery slope to its logical conclusion and Ace won't be able to use the ban-hammer anymore. Posted by: VA MKZ BRB, need to turn the water on the slope. Posted by: socalcon at December 08, 2017 12:00 AM (WAnre) 448 Now was he discussing surrogacy in the abstract, which I would say is neither here nor there, or was he sounding them out as possible candidates, which certainly would be creepy? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2017 08:21 PM (H+ulh) ****************** My surrogate worked out just fine. Posted by: Hillary at December 08, 2017 01:53 AM (6dFYM) 449 We made it almost legal to stick your AIDS infected dick into an unsuspecting victims body. Misdemeanor crime, not a felony even if the victim dies. Posted by: California at December 08, 2017 02:18 AM (6dFYM) 450 We're cool with "Death to Zionist Occupiers" cakes out here. Posted by: California at December 08, 2017 02:19 AM (6dFYM) 451 Donald Trump wont be in Alabama on Friday Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 08, 2017 04:09 AM (mpXpK) 452 She was 23 years old and had already made over 200 "films" Posted by: Ustuplay at December 08, 2017 05:55 AM (olvG6) 453 Sorry I missed this thread. Also extremely sad about this young womans death at the hands of the leftist 'progressives'. I wish she had left the Twitter stuff in the hands of a professional or an agent. There's nothing good to come from it any more than reading the comments in a YouTube video will enlighten someone. There's so many sick people in this world, reading their rants is just plain stupid. Anyway, I have an extended family member who does considerable research in the pron industry so I read a lot of what he writes. Always with my teeth gritted. I know he's a little 'out there' and being in the same room interviewing a naked Ron Jeremy? There's not enough money on the planet to pay me to do that. He says that a male performer can not get into hetero pron scenes without doing homosexual sex first. An example of this I guess is Peter North. I have FF'd through a very young Peter North video were he is obviously doing a gay scene. I've never seen more than that one scene, which is now about three decades old. So that may very well be true. If my timeline is accurate that was just before AIDs came to this country. I believe Peter North is still doing pron, even in his fifties. All hetero stuff. Just another piece of the puzzle. It's not just women who are being pressured into sex with male homosexuals. Posted by: Acme Office Sex Dungeon Outfitters at December 08, 2017 06:20 AM (ajiE5) (Jump to top of page) Name: * Email: * URL: Comments: Processing 0.06, elapsed 0.0624 seconds. 15 queries taking 0.0228 seconds, 462 records returned. Page size 236 kb. Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.	MuNuvians MeeNuvians Polls! Polls! Polls! 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