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Surprise: John McCain, Jeff Flake, and Bob Corker All More Popular With Democrats Than Republicans
Except among the Meeting of the Concerned, I'm sure.
There’s one way for a Republican senator to earn the approval of Democrats – and the rancor of Republicans – and that’s to criticize President Donald Trump. Senators Jeff Flake, Bob Corker and John McCain all get higher favorable ratings from Democrats than from Republicans in the latest Economist/YouGov Poll.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Lizzy at November 03, 2017 01:04 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: jwest at November 03, 2017 01:04 PM (coYZ7)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 03, 2017 01:05 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 03, 2017 01:06 PM (zHhW4)
Posted by: JTB at November 03, 2017 01:06 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: JTB at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (V+03K)
The Rule Of Anyway applies to them too.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (EyPfd)
Posted by: no good deed at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (eIQHF)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (60v4h)
Posted by: ScoggDog at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (+93Nn)
I don't understand something. Is it illegal for POTUS to instruct the AG to investigate someone/something?
Why? Article II, Section 1 "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."
Any law that restricts that would be unconstitutional, IMHO.
Posted by: JAS at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (Oj1RP)
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (v3JxD)
Posted by: rickl at November 03, 2017 01:08 PM (xjiRE)
Posted by: IC at November 03, 2017 01:08 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:08 PM (v3JxD)
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at November 03, 2017 01:08 PM (60v4h)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (fA1SL)
But when it comes to the General Election, they still won't get it anyway!
Which makes me happy, but still, why they have not grasped The Rule Of Anyway by now still amazes me.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:08 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Cosmo Magazine at November 03, 2017 01:08 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:09 PM (Nwg0u)
And the New World Order people also ... build the dang wall, and put the deplorables inside those walls ... but keep the borders open to the third world.
America First still has popular support, more so if it is phrased differently since some patriotic phrases now "trigger" the PC crowd.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 03, 2017 01:10 PM (/aIFg)
Posted by: Apple Fanbois Everywhere at November 03, 2017 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
I thought Flake was a good guy?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 01:10 PM (4XCge)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at November 03, 2017 01:10 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (v3JxD)
Posted by: Sen. Drooling John (R) at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: LASue at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (UeWTb)
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Saying you will do conservative things gets you elected. Refusing to do those things after you get elected gets you paid.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: JTB at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:12 PM (v3JxD)
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 03, 2017 01:12 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:13 PM (mpXpK)
On a brighger note, check Ivanka's dress on Drudge.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (Nwg0u)
Heh..already did this morning...the Daily Mail does a good job with all the fashion photos.
Posted by: IC at November 03, 2017 01:13 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:13 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: IC at November 03, 2017 01:08 PM (a0IVu)
Because the other side doesn't tolerate people who have already proven to be disloyal.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:13 PM (WDCYi)
Well, you were wrong.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:12 PM (v3JxD)
In fairness, he did do a good pretend job for a while. And then the mask dropped off.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:13 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:13 PM (Nwg0u)
Well, you were wrong.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:12 PM
I often am.
I'm used to it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 01:13 PM (4XCge)
Everybody did when he first ran for Senate. He revealed his true colors soon enough; a globalist open borders elitist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: navybrat at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (w7KSn)
The pressure of entropy and selfishness, unless a representative is enriching himself on the side rather than directly legislatively, will tend to force shifts toward more selfish politics - read: "leftism"- which is not what they were elected for. Which breeds conflict with the base, which breeds disloyalty and contempt.
One reason jwest's idea of increasing congressional pay/etc. but modifying perks and financial shenanigans immunity is only mostly silly: if an incumbent can get rich without having to legislate themselves rich per se, you might not have as much drift, and you might attract people who like to get rich shadily (crooks) in greater preference to people craving power (crazies).
Posted by: Sporkatus at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (HtLSE)
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Austin Badger Park at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (2GTjP)
Posted by: Jeff Flake at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (v3JxD)
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No. Actually, we are pretty okay with it.
Posted by: the deplorables at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (zeEO5)
Posted by: The Salon Hot 25 at November 03, 2017 01:15 PM (O5Q3r)
Two of those three are going away. Maybe if we make Leeza Mookowsky and
The Maine Hag return to their respective cold states we can get some
things done. Corker...somebody offer him a lobbying job, okay?
Posted by: Apple Fanbois Everywhere at November 03, 2017 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
Corker is already gone next year.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:15 PM (mpXpK)
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My presumption is that if Trump told Sessions to investigate the election fixing charges in Donna Brazille's book that Slumber'n Sessions would refuse.
Whatever the left is blackmailing him with has been sufficient to keep him inactive.
If he were to follow through, the Deep Staters in the Justice Dept would kneecap him, and if he were to get an indictment, an Obama judge would throw it out for Trump "prejudicing" the investigation.
That being said, there is NO excuse for the Republican state AGs to ignore this. Fixing elections is against state law as well...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2017 01:15 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:15 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (RD7QR)
Throw in the felons and illegal/dead vote, the D is prob +4.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 03, 2017 01:15 PM (72PAC)
I thought Flake was a good guy?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 01:10 PM (4XCge)
He has been a big time RINO the last two years.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:15 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: DaveA at November 03, 2017 01:15 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (Nwg0u)
............
Nipple alert!
Posted by: wth at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Boots at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (EBwPV)
Posted by: Arlen Specter at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (YvfII)
Posted by: Vic
Vic, I thought Flake wasn't running again?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (zHhW4)
What stupid times we live in.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: JAS at November 03, 2017 01:17 PM (Oj1RP)
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It seems that the normies have become "woke" let's just pray it isn't too late.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2017 01:17 PM (eSx+E)
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And all three have been stellar with their representation of Latin America's invaders.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 03, 2017 01:18 PM (vg8iE)
The same reason they do anything.
Because they are pig ignorant retards.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:18 PM (v3JxD)
Posted by: JEM at November 03, 2017 01:18 PM (X5/mo)
Posted by: The Meeting of the Concerned at November 03, 2017 01:18 PM (8b+oT)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (zHhW4)
And there is a reason he is not running.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:18 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Vic
Vic, I thought Flake wasn't running again?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (zHhW4)
He is not and Mcsenile will be eating dirt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:19 PM (ZBPeS)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 01:19 PM (LiyEm)
His race to be identified with Democrats kind of makes sense in a way, though. That's a sure way to be celebrated, lionized, and beloved when you die. Big funeral, all those memorial shows on TV, news casters praising you, statues, etc. If its all about the ego for you, well he never made admiral but maybe this can make up for it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:20 PM (39g3+)
What stupid times we live in.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (PY9jH)
Edward Snowden must be steaming.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:20 PM (WDCYi)
Shock of all shocks, the more a GOP politician is liked by Democrats, the less he is by Republicans. I know, stunning news.
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I am impressed the Lamestream media actually realized RINOs are politically vulnerable before election day this year.
Posted by: exdem13 at November 03, 2017 01:20 PM (wZznc)
And if Trump CAN call the AG to direct an investigation, if the AG has recused himself, why can't Trump direct an Assistant AG to?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 03, 2017 01:20 PM (zHhW4)
Based on what I've seen on social media, they think the justice department is some kind of fourth branch of the government; completely separate and independent of the executive branch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:21 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: The Meeting of the Concerned at November 03, 2017 01:21 PM (8b+oT)
Posted by: Lester at November 03, 2017 01:21 PM (LfJIn)
Posted by: JEM at November 03, 2017 01:21 PM (X5/mo)
What stupid times we live in.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 03, 2017 01:16 PM (PY9jH)
If Hasan isn't executed, I will truly be sick. In fairness, you can't completely prove cause - effect with Bergdahl and Manning, but you CAN prove Hasan murdered people personally!
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Juan McLame at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Dash for the Politcal Lifeboats in Sav-Ur-Self Gear by the Outrage Outlet! at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (v3JxD)
Truth is, if any democrat falls out of line, they are cut off and thrown onto the ash heap. We at least kick our guys around for a while, hoping they'll come to their senses.
Posted by: red speck at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (6Krd7)
Posted by: zeera at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (OGbEB)
He can but I'm watching this curiously for now.
Sessions keeps pulling himself out of any investigation that might remotely seem like he has a conflict of interest or is personally involved, no matter how distantly.
Meuller is staying in to investigate Russian involvement with the election, when its clear that he was part of that very thing. The contrast, I think, will become more and more stark as time goes on.
Meuller should clearly recuse himself from his own damn special investigation. And I believe as more evidence comes out, that will become very obvious.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (39g3+)
We have a winnah!
Posted by: JEM at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (X5/mo)
Posted by: Pep at November 03, 2017 01:22 PM (B+Gkp)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 01:23 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Marcus T at November 03, 2017 01:23 PM (VpIIl)
McCain was too pure for this world... *weeps*
Posted by: DNC paid mourners at his funeral at November 03, 2017 01:23 PM (hvf9s)
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Who told you that horseshit? They're a Party, it's about power, it's a numbers game. That they found a way to glow onto whatever you're wanting in order to sell themselves for votes is completely immaterial.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at November 03, 2017 01:23 PM (gB/gO)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 01:23 PM (LiyEm)
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Of course. In their minds it equals a Democrat win.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 03, 2017 01:24 PM (vg8iE)
On a brighger note, check Ivanka's dress on Drudge.
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Once again the Brit rags do the joba their American cousins steadfastly ignore.
Posted by: exdem13 at November 03, 2017 01:24 PM (wZznc)
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 03, 2017 01:24 PM (QM5S2)
Posted by: Curmudgeon
All the military and feds have to do is step away from him and turn him over to Texas. We'll put him in the fast lane to a hot needle.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 03, 2017 01:24 PM (zHhW4)
There was a time when we called that the "Village Idiot".
Posted by: Marcus T at November 03, 2017 01:24 PM (VpIIl)
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You hurt the ones you love.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (vg8iE)
investigation. And I believe as more evidence comes out, that will
become very obvious.
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Does the Federal government have a specific standard of professional ethics among prosecutors? Is there a defined complaint process?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: Senor Juan McCain at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (Tyii7)
The decision on Sergeant Bergdahl is a complete and total disgrace to our Country and to our Military,
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (ZBPeS)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (eRtKn)
Sure, but the THEORY is that a party gathers around a certain set of ideals and principles which they will fight for and uphold; hence, the platform, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:26 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (eRtKn)
I doubt McConnell is, remember he stole their Supreme COurt seat
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:26 PM (ZBPeS)
"We'll get on hysterical cries of cultural appropriation as soon as we can!! We're still masturbating to fantasies that Trump comes home to impeachment!"
-US Media
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 03, 2017 01:27 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Senor Juan McCain at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (Tyii7)
FOAD, at least make make an effort on the last part you lying sos.
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:27 PM (suO/a)
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Not a virtue.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (gB/gO)
https://tinyurl.com/ycvs52vq
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (Nwg0u)
Why did he call him Sergeant?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (4XCge)
Posted by: Confirmed Life-Long Bachelor Lindsey Graham - I like dudes OK? at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (4e+hS)
Yeah, that'd be true except for one teensy-weensy thing: these RINO's are not "our own." If they were, they'da repealed Ocare like they promised to do for 8 years.
They also would've secured the Mexican border like they said they would.
And they prolly would've balanced the budget and reduced spending like they said.
OK, that's three things, but you get my drift. They've proven time and again that they're not on our side, they're on the Prog/Dem's side.
Of. Every. Issue. All of them need to be voted out of office ASAP.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (tRaq7)
The Sessions thing has moved beyond outsider speculation
frustration or confidence based on limited information. He has basically
"recused" himself from ..... the position of AG. The matters he deems
outside his proper ability to touch make up half or more of the most
important matters before the department.
And, to make things
even more ridiculous, the deputy AG who thereby becomes the de facto AG
for the most momentous cases currently in view is neck-deep in those
*actual* scandals, far beyond the point where he too would need to
recuse himself.
America has never had a criminal AG (two
consecutively), a criminal FBI director, criminal cabinet-level
officials (and likely WH staff and president), and what appear to be
deeply compromised FBI and IC, all working together to some extent,
engaged in acts that - just on current public information alone -
constitute criminal activity.
This isn't even political. This
is about the whole ball game. Sessions and Rosenstein are, technically
and literally, unfit for the most important part of their jobs. Does
Trump or anyone around him recognize the gravity of our situation?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 03, 2017 01:30 PM (QDnY+)
Plus, what, 5 billion dollars?
Posted by: navybrat at November 03, 2017 01:30 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Lil Billy Kristol at November 03, 2017 01:30 PM (c2q/b)
Why did he call him Sergeant?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (UeWTb)
Has he officially been striped of his rank yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:30 PM (ZBPeS)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (4XCge
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Sailor Moon type outfits and power?
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:30 PM (suO/a)
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Not a virtue.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at November 03, 2017 01:28 PM (gB/gO)
In fairness, the Commiecrats have had infighting recently between the Hillary-Stalin faction and the Bernie-Trotsky one.
As for the GOP? We have had infights between the (Eastern) Establishment and the True Believers before:
--Dewey vs. Taft, which led to Ike as a compromise
--Rockefeller vs. Goldwater, which led to Uncle Ron, with Establishment Bush chosen as Veep
--Trump vs. Bushyrovies now
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:31 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Bobo Bergdahl at November 03, 2017 01:31 PM (Tyii7)
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They can change that anytime. It's just a list of which lobbyists they deal with.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at November 03, 2017 01:31 PM (gB/gO)
Posted by: The tumah at November 03, 2017 01:31 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 01:31 PM (fA1SL)
Like the idea of a Kimono shirtdress and the colors, pitch perfect for the location/audience. HATE the execution. Designer needed to listen to Chanel's iconic advice and remove at least one of the elements. Way too busy. Ivanka's statuesque, model figure keeps it from looking completely ridiculous. But still is a style miss.
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:31 PM (hvf9s)
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Yeah I don't think we can put McConnell and Ryan in the same bracket.
McConnell has actually done *something* for conservativism in his years in office. Ryan has...not.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2017 01:31 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:07 PM (60v4h)
Me too; the backstabbing RINOs have fucked the country just as effectively as the commiecrats. Rove and company were quite happy with that. Fuck that shit; it's a new day, tools.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (UeWTb)
Meghan calls him "Peg"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (9B5L1)
frustration or confidence based on limited information. He has basically "recused" himself from ..... the position of AG.
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He may have achieved my dream; a lifestyle that doesn't require my presence.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (Nwg0u)
And with that, I fake productive activity.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (RD7QR)
#wevecomealongwaybaby
Posted by: JJTownsend1977 at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (PsdJu)
Anytime you let her get dressed, it's a Style miss.
Posted by: garrett at November 03, 2017 01:33 PM (v3JxD)
It was effective immediately.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (UeWTb)
I hope they ripped it off like in the movies or the TV show Branded. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:33 PM (ZBPeS)
And yet it's the Obama-Mao faction that just keeps winning and winning and winning.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:33 PM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at November 03, 2017 01:33 PM (Tyii7)
Scroll down the DM article and check out the pink suit she had on...the skirt is so short. A little too short, IMO.
Posted by: IC at November 03, 2017 01:33 PM (a0IVu)
is about the whole ball game. Sessions and Rosenstein are, technically
and literally, unfit for the most important part of their jobs. Does
Trump or anyone around him recognize the gravity of our situation?
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My understanding is that the GOPe has told Trump that if he fires Sessions he is getting, at best, a member of the GOPe in good standing and at worst a Democrat.
The question is what Sessions is being blackmailed with, since he isn't a GOPer, and I don't seem him lining up a no-show consulting gig when he retires.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 03, 2017 01:34 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (9B5L1)
He's her favorite foreign movie.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:34 PM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:34 PM (60v4h)
Now I don't give a rat's ass really but this is symptomatic of the decline of the nfl and the poor leadership of goodell
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (ZBPeS)
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:30 PM (ZBPeS)
From Fox
Bergdahl walked out of a North Carolina courtroom a free man Friday.
Bergdahl, who pleaded guilty to endangering his comrades, was fined,
reduced in rank to E1 and dishonorably discharged -- but he received no
prison time.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (mpXpK)
And yet it's the Obama-Mao faction that just keeps winning and winning and winning.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:33 PM (WDCYi)
Thesis - Antithesis - Synthesis?
Marx's dialectic was utter crap,, but Hegel's looks quite valid, with the GOP as well:
Dewey - Taft - Ike
Rockefeller - Goldwater - Reagan
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 03, 2017 01:36 PM (QM5S2)
Session's is clearly not up to the job and by his own action's is not fully in control of the agency he supposedly heads.
This is an intolerable situation for Trump as Obama holdovers are running the joint.
And since for some inexcplicable reason Session's has recused on anything Russia and anything Clinton and has specifically said that people who are totally compromised can decide on their own if they should recuse themselves.
It's a complete and total fucking joke of sham of a mockery.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 03, 2017 01:36 PM (Wtll+)
Wow. I figured there would be some out-processing and a beating or two first.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (60v4h)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 03, 2017 01:25 PM (eRtKn)
I doubt McConnell is, remember he stole their Supreme COurt seat
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 01:26 PM (ZBPeS)
They will never, ever, ever forgive that. Ever.
I've argued with people that insisted it was unconstitutional, and were fingers-in-ears resistant to explaining "no, it was perfectly Constitutional and here's why".
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (Bl5Zt)
Too bad it's not a tattoo. I'd pay good money to see that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (tRaq7)
Wow. I figured there would be some out-processing and a beating or two first.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (60v4h)
He'll end up as a foreign policy or military analyst for some left-wing outfit.
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (NWiLs)
The Sessions thing has moved beyond outsider speculation frustration or confidence based on limited information. He has basically "recused" himself from ..... the position of AG.
You would think any AG worth his salt would be licking his chops to head up what could be one of the biggest political corruption cases in U.S. history
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (60v4h)
Did that POS smirk as he was exiting the courtroom?
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (suO/a)
Too bad it's not a tattoo. I'd pay good money to see that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM (tRaq7)
With a disc sander.
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (NWiLs)
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Was he wearing a uniform with insignia and medals?
I hope he walked out of court in civilian clothes.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (4XCge)
Dewey - Taft - Ike
Rockefeller - Goldwater - Reagan
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (ujg0T)
Seriously, though, ValJar is _frightening_.
I'm thinking she long-gamed this whole thing to set the Clintonistas and Berniebots against each other, while her (and Obama's by extension) faction comes in and takes total control of the party while they grab at each other's throats.
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Fritz at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (Kwhm/)
Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson's rape victims at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (1L9V9)
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (NWiLs)
Middle of forehead, in order so no one would miss it.
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:38 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: Chelsea M. at November 03, 2017 01:39 PM (vg8iE)
For this, we released 5 Gitmo AQ leaders.
Plus, what, 5 billion dollars?
And this ashtray!
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 03, 2017 01:36 PM (QM5S2)
I just saw that Bergdahl was given no prison time.
(Takes off Sunday School director hat)
That fucking traitor should rot on the streets, homeless, jobless and with no friends. He deserves no sympathy. Too many veterans endure that who were honorable, loyal men. Too many veterans are abused by the VA, denied treatment or ignored in their pain. This piece of shit deserves the bowels of hell.
(Puts Sunday School director hat back on.)
Bless his heart.
Posted by: moki at November 03, 2017 01:39 PM (V+V48)
that elected them, NOT the DNC elite. American people want to remind
them of this good and hard and it's driving them insane.
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They know best! Oddly, some senators believe that their own foreign policy is greater than a president or the people who elected any of them. Corker had a few eye-popping statements on one of the talk shows about how he knows more about foreign policy than PDJT and how dare PDJT call him out on the Iran crapfest.
McCain has been running a shadow foreign policy for a long, long, time. Corker tried for the same. Flake is just that, a sad flake.
There was an IL senator years ago, Percy, who fell for that 'international' superstar nonsense. He was voted out as well.
Posted by: mustbequantum at November 03, 2017 01:39 PM (MIKMs)
Because if it's left to dumb fuck Sessions and this twat Wray who has fucking up and dissapeared, who is also allowing his agency stonewall congress, nothing is going to get accomplished and none of the absolute corruption we are discovering on a daily basis is going to result in anyone going to jail.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 03, 2017 01:40 PM (Wtll+)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:11 PM (UeWTb)
Meghan calls him "Peg"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 03, 2017 01:32 PM (9B5L1)
Meghan pegging him? Ewwwww
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:40 PM (ujg0T)
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Really? We were going to give him a big salary for 5 hours of work a week "teaching".
Posted by: A public university near you at November 03, 2017 01:40 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:40 PM (ujg0T)
I don't want to look up what that means, do I?
Posted by: moki at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (V+V48)
I can't imagine anyone hiring him for anything. I'd tear up his application right in front of him and dare him to do something about it. If I had one of those job thingys again, that is.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (tRaq7)
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The decision on Sergeant Bergdahl is a complete and total disgrace to our Country and to our Military.
10:54 AM - Nov 3, 2017
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (NWiLs)
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I wonder what his speech fees are.
Posted by: Goldman-Sachs at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (Tyii7)
we warned them with cantor to do as THEY said they would do.
we asked and gave.
this was all quite a surprising and united message and Nothing they hadn't promised to US the the last several years.
Then we Gave them someone that was listening .. Trump.
so they may scream, but they actually have a tool to complete what They had promised,
so they really should for their futures and america's future.
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (Zmz55)
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:37 PM
FIFY
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:40 PM (ujg0T)
I don't want to look up what that means, do I?
Posted by: moki at November 03, 2017 01:41 PM (V+V4
Nope. Nope nope nope!
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:42 PM (NWiLs)
Ugh it is! Especially for meeting the Japanese Prime Minister, she is awfully close to flashing the family jewels in that 60's stewardess skirt. Sometimes she wears outfits that are a little too young for her, I think that one counts.
And the shoes with the bows in the following pics, and that limp looking coat it's paired with...again dressing too young and too Jacquie O twee. Normally I love her style, something's off. She needs to keep it sleep and simple, not wear things too fussy or juvenile. How hard it is to dress you, you are freakin' Ivanka! Step it up lady.
I like the black/white outfit when she's having sushi! But then I can't see the skirt well hopefully it's not a disaster.
Posted by: LizLem, channeling Joan Rivers realness at November 03, 2017 01:42 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 03, 2017 01:42 PM (0dEpw)
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:42 PM (NWiLs)
{{{{Insomniac}}}}
Thanks for looking out for my delicate sensibilities!! How are you sweetheart?
Posted by: moki at November 03, 2017 01:43 PM (V+V48)
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:43 PM (suO/a)
Hmm. I always thought the military shot deserters.
Posted by: Fritz at November 03, 2017 01:44 PM (Kwhm/)
Posted by: Tumor at November 03, 2017 01:44 PM (ymnmz)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:44 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:44 PM (UeWTb)
Hit the Fukn Road!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 03, 2017 01:44 PM (bmkS9)
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:45 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 01:45 PM (Zmz55)
This is what Trump is. He is the knife edge, that when tapped, cuts the diamond of the political world along a different seam.
Posted by: geoffb at November 03, 2017 01:46 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:44 PM (UeWTb)
You don't think he's going to draw a crowd like Manning? There's money to be made in the anti-US movement.
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 01:46 PM (suO/a)
who supports every derelect traitor to america?
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 01:46 PM (Zmz55)
Though flattered by being chosen for the award, Wells could not "in good conscience" accept the award. Given the "slap in the face" he feels NFL players have shown veterans by way of their anthem protests.
"Although I am touched and honored to be selected for such an award, the ongoing controversy with NFL players' disrespect for the national flag forces me to decline to participate in the presentation," Wells said in a press release. "Since this award is tainted with the dishonorable actions of the NFL and its players, I cannot accept it."
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: moki at November 03, 2017 01:43 PM (V+V4
Meh. You?
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Hillary! 2020 & 2024 at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Texas Zombie at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (SUtNI)
who supports every derelect traitor to america?
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Oooh, now you're just makin' me blush. Shucks.
Posted by: Barry! at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (vg8iE)
he military judge (Col. Jeffery Nance) ordered U.S. taxpayer's to pay Bergdahl's fine for him. Think about that. FUBAR
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (Nwg0u)
You implied he had handlers. Who are they? Or you think he will get some?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:48 PM (UeWTb)
It's good! I like the Duffer Brothers played with the 80's genres and formats didn't just stick to the formula of the first season. Took some plot and character risks and I think they pay off bigly. The kids are such good actors it's crazy.
We need to have a Stranger Things 2 thread so I can talk spoilers when you are done! The 7th episode has been touted as controversial, would love to get thoughts form the Horde.
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:48 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Texas Zombie at November 03, 2017 01:48 PM (SUtNI)
We did not elect an Aristocracy... she is NOT a Princess....
Posted by: Don Q. at November 03, 2017 01:49 PM (NgKpN)
His race to be identified with Democrats kind of makes sense in a way, though. That's a sure way to be celebrated, lionized, and beloved when you die. Big funeral, all those memorial shows on TV, news casters praising you, statues, etc. If its all about the ego for you, well he never made admiral but maybe this can make up for it.
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The last BIG funeral the country observed and actually mourned was Reagan. Till my dying day I'll remember Katty Carwreck's utter shock and amazement at people coming out and lining the streets dozens deep for his funeral cortege.
No democrat in modern times ever got that kind of respect, and I submit that if Juan thinks the media, conservatives and dems are going to "pay respects" to him, he's freakin' dreamin.'
Posted by: SandyCheeks at November 03, 2017 01:49 PM (RUVTD)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 01:49 PM (fA1SL)
The key to victory is the element* of surprise
https://youtu.be/m8tfuAa1zHU
* The element of surprise is Praesodymium - true science fact!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 03, 2017 01:49 PM (1F6Sr)
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:49 PM (WDCYi)
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:48 PM (hvf9s)
Funny you say that. I just finished it. I'm not sure why it's being called "controversial." It was good character development.
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:50 PM (NWiLs)
Crap - Praeseodymium
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 03, 2017 01:50 PM (1F6Sr)
We don't demand lockstep obedience, but you better believe we are now demanding some loyalty and will not be content with contempt.
You peons should be grateful we condescend to rule over you.
Posted by: Graham, Collins, Flake and McCain, immovable objects at November 03, 2017 01:50 PM (BUNwl)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:50 PM (UeWTb)
Bergdahl walked out of a North Carolina courtroom a free man Friday.
Wow. I figured there would be some out-processing and a beating or two first.
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Anyone feel like a road trip with a beater panel van, barbed wire, and baseball bats?
Posted by: exdem13 at November 03, 2017 01:50 PM (wZznc)
is about the whole ball game. Sessions and Rosenstein are, technically
and literally, unfit for the most important part of their jobs. Does
Trump or anyone around him recognize the gravity of our situation?
A party that cannot rid itself of the Clintons, Obamas, etc. isn't worth keeping.
This goes double for the GOPe.
Posted by: DaveA at November 03, 2017 01:51 PM (FhXTo)
The Rowdy Three!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:51 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 01:51 PM (Zmz55)
Posted by: P. Manning at November 03, 2017 01:51 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 01:51 PM (QQ+il)
There are four of them!
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:51 PM (WDCYi)
Bergdahl, who pleaded guilty to endangering his comrades, was fined,
reduced in rank to E1 and dishonorably discharged -- but he received no
prison time.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (mpXpK)
I knew a guy who got worse for shop lifting at the px shopette.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (IWbvi)
Posted by: Hillary! 2020 & 2024 at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (ctuyM)
Because by 2024 she'll be down by 8. Feet that is.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (fA1SL)
Bergdahl, who pleaded guilty to endangering his comrades, was fined,
reduced in rank to E1 and dishonorably discharged -- but he received no
prison time.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (mpXpK)
I knew a guy who got worse for shop lifting at the px shopette.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (IWbvi)
How about the guy who took a picture on a Sub... and got a YEAR...
Posted by: Don Q. at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Don Q. at November 03, 2017 01:49 PM (NgKpN)
She will do until one shows up
Posted by: MAC SOG at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (czkHE)
Rep Frederica Wilson @RepWilson
This is just 1 example of the racist absurdity coming from WH yet they're mad when ppl say White Supremacists occupy the WH. Sad! #staywoke
12:15 PM - Nov 1, 2017
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM (Nwg0u)
It's fashion, I have feels!
Plus I refuse to do what the libs did to Michelle, praise her for wearing ridiculous outfits not appropriate for the location, or for wearing upholstery. Ivanka has very few fashion missteps, she is savvy about what works for her. But I have no problem calling out strikes when I see them. Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Hikaru at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM (UeWTb)
Listen, my friends
Listen, my friends
Listen, my friends
Listen, my friends
Listen, my friends
Listen, my friends
Listen, my friends, you thought never but
Listen, my friends, I'm yours forever
Listen, my friends, won't leave you ever
Now my friends
What's gone down behind
No more rain
From where we came
Listen my love, get under the covers, yeah
Squeeze me real tight, all of your lovin'
Into the light, beneath and above ya
So out of sight, bein' in love!
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM (ujg0T)
His lawyer is already talking about an appeal because the DD denies him benefits "that he so obviously needs".
Posted by: tu3031 at November 03, 2017 01:54 PM (O5Q3r)
Ivanka should be off running the company..... NOT dealing with foreign leaders.
We did not elect an Aristocracy... she is NOT a Princess....
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You totally missed saying that when Queen Moochelle was taking quarterly vacations and shopping sprees in Air Force One? Ivanka got some work done on her Akihabara shopping trip.
Posted by: exdem13 at November 03, 2017 01:54 PM (wZznc)
Posted by: Barky O'Fuckstik at November 03, 2017 01:54 PM (Tyii7)
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So, you stupid bitch (and that's the nicest nomenclature I can summon for a creature of your stature), what race is Islam?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 03, 2017 01:54 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 01:55 PM (fA1SL)
And as for McCain, he should have burned his Republican Membership Card years ago.
And to think I almost admired Bob Corker.
Almost.
Posted by: MissingMontana at November 03, 2017 01:55 PM (46Cs5)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:55 PM (UeWTb)
Bergdahl, who pleaded guilty to endangering his comrades, was fined,
reduced in rank to E1 and dishonorably discharged -- but he received no
prison time.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 03, 2017 01:35 PM (mpXpK)
I knew a guy who got worse for shop lifting at the px shopette.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (IWbvi)
Bergdahl would be wise to go find a mountain to hide on. Way away from civilization. And stay there.
Not advocating for vigilantism, but I think it's a safe bet there is a select population of SF that would jump at the opportunity to visit ill will against him.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 03, 2017 01:55 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 01:55 PM (0f5af)
Rep Frederica Wilson @RepWilson
This is just 1 example of the racist absurdity coming from WH yet they're mad when ppl say White Supremacists occupy the WH. Sad! #staywoke
12:15 PM - Nov 1, 2017
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM (Nwg0u)
So she's taking the side of a terrorist over the President. Keep fucking that ficus.
Posted by: josephistan at November 03, 2017 01:55 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 03, 2017 01:52 PM (IWbvi)
In 1991 I had a guy Desert the day before we left for Desert Storm... he was arrested in Las Vegas months later...
He got FIVE YEARS... and no one was hurt or killed... and he deserted to Vegas, not the enemy.
I can't describe to you have I currently feel about the Military.... an institution I gave my youth to.
Posted by: Don Q. at November 03, 2017 01:55 PM (NgKpN)
I remember a Democrat friend of mine endlessly praising McCain while Bush was President and said that was a Republican he could vote for.
When Mccain was the nominee, guess he voted for?
Posted by: Maritime at November 03, 2017 01:56 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 01:56 PM (0f5af)
Throwing your medals over the fence?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:56 PM (UeWTb)
Bergdahl is too stupid to make a profit out of this, but his handlers OTOH......
His lawyer is already talking about an appeal because the DD denies him benefits "that he so obviously needs".
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Now is my daily reminder why I voted for The Donald.
Posted by: exdem13 at November 03, 2017 01:56 PM (wZznc)
I remember a Democrat friend of mine endlessly praising McCain while Bush was President and said that was a Republican he could vote for.
When Mccain was the nominee, guess he voted for?
Posted by: Maritime at November 03, 2017 01:56 PM (lKmt3)
The Rule Of Anyway!
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 01:57 PM (ujg0T)
A Sailor got 6 months detention and 3 years of electronic monitoring for taking a couple of pictures with his phone.
Bergdahl deserted his post and is responsible for the deaths of 6 of his team mates and get nothing.
The ruling is an abomination, the judge should be removed because he is unfit to sit in judgement of traffic court let alone matters of this gravity.
Posted by: Kreplach at November 03, 2017 01:57 PM (Wtll+)
Totally agree...I am hoping Melania's outfits are more hits than misses. She is such a beautiful woman. Its almost a crime to not dress her right.
Posted by: IC at November 03, 2017 01:57 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 01:57 PM (Zmz55)
This is just 1 example of the racist absurdity coming from WH yet they're mad when ppl say White Supremacists occupy the WH. Sad! #staywoke
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Wow. That is one dumbass black woman in a sequined foam cowboy hat.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 01:57 PM (0f5af)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:57 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 01:47 PM (NWiLs)
Pretty okay.
Hubby is getting ready to retire, so we are looking for new jobs. Kids in college, and all that.
I appreciate your stress a lot more now. You are actually inspirational, with your humor and wit in the midst of all the crap.
Posted by: moki at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (V+V48)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (QDnY+)
SPOILERS POSSIBLY
Just that it broke from the format, total standalone journey for Elle. But the Duffers specifically said they saw it as Elle's "Luke going to train with Yoda" moment, and it is crucial for later events she have that moment. So I don't hate it. People also disliked new characters being shoehorned in they have to pay attention to when they'd rather focus on the main cast. Stuff like that. But I thought showing the larger world and setting up possible other plot points for season 3 was good.
In short, people gotta complain no matter what!
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (hvf9s)
I'm thinking by the end of trump's 3rd term or so, these judges will have been purged...pinochet style. jk of course.
Posted by: Witwickian Sage (muh IP=BooBs) at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (RDd1I)
-
And a meme is born.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:57 PM (Nwg0u)
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Wait, that's how memes are born?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (0f5af)
Throwing your medals over the fence?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 01:56 PM (UeWTb)
You know.... if I said what just went through my head as I read that... I'd be banned...
Posted by: Don Q. at November 03, 2017 02:00 PM (NgKpN)
Meeting of the Concerned
I have been trying for several days to remember where I heard an "authority figure" speak the phrase, "I'm concerned...". He was a plant manager at one of our manufacturing plants thirty-some years ago and his message was videotaped and replayed before the line workers again and again. And was met with hoots of derision again and again.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 03, 2017 02:00 PM (1F6Sr)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (QDnY+)
Yeah, they're being whiny little bitches about him publicly rejecting the award.
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 03, 2017 02:00 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:00 PM (UeWTb)
and he walks free?
fk
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:00 PM (Zmz55)
Posted by: Maritime at November 03, 2017 02:01 PM (lKmt3)
And the Saints responded back with a lie and insult.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 03, 2017 02:01 PM (yIPKR)
I just saw that Bergdahl was given no prison time.
His lawyer is going to appeal, saying the dishonorable discharge harms his client's ability to support himself.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 03, 2017 02:01 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Maritime at November 03, 2017 02:01 PM (lKmt3)
Judge
Posted by: Don Q. at November 03, 2017 02:01 PM (NgKpN)
I really do love that phrase, makes me smile everytime I see it. I'm just sad they pulled it from Ace's brain before he could invent it!
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 02:02 PM (hvf9s)
Judge. Prosecution wanted DD + 14 years.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:02 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM
^^^^ THIS.
Posted by: Clayton Kershaw at November 03, 2017 02:02 PM (ctuyM)
Given the politics of today, the publicity, political correctness, etc. I did not expect execution, or even life.
But a light slap on the wrist? How can this possibly be?
Posted by: RM at November 03, 2017 02:02 PM (U3LtS)
Rep Frederica Wilson @RepWilson
This is just 1 example of the racist absurdity coming from WH yet they're mad when ppl say White Supremacists occupy the WH. Sad! #staywoke
12:15 PM - Nov 1, 2017
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 03, 2017 01:53 PM (Nwg0u)
I'd say her cowboy hat is too tight and cutting off blood to her brain but it's a big assumption that there is anything between her ears
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 03, 2017 02:02 PM (493sH)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (Zmz55)
I have no knowledge of how any of this works.
Posted by: Maritime at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (UeWTb)
Jeff! PLEASE, for the love of this once great country, switch to sativa!!!
Posted by: SFGoth at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: moki at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (V+V4
Aw. Thanks.
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 03, 2017 02:04 PM (QQ+il)
No. Dishonorable. There is no worse kind of discharge.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:04 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (Zmz55)
No
Dishonorable
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 02:04 PM (ZBPeS)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 03, 2017 02:04 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: CN at November 03, 2017 02:04 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 02:03 PM (LiyEm)
I would have said, I'll dust the cobwebs off of Vinny Testeverde and sign him before we sign that commie POS Crapperdick
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 03, 2017 02:05 PM (493sH)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 02:05 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM
Well, when a Moron and a Moronette who love each other very much ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 03, 2017 02:05 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 03, 2017 02:05 PM (IqV8l)
Rep Frederica Wilson @RepWilson This is just 1 example of the racist absurdity coming from WH yet they're mad when ppl say White Supremacists occupy the WH. Sad! #staywoke
Aren't Uzbeks classified as caucasian?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 03, 2017 02:05 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:06 PM (Zmz55)
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 01:58 PM (hvf9s)
I guess they do. Like I said, it's a bit choppy in comparison to season 1 but still good.
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 02:06 PM (NWiLs)
You say that, but I was rooting for firing squad! Boo.
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 02:06 PM (hvf9s)
i'm sure he will be at peace with those honorable guys now dead trying to save him.
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:07 PM (Zmz55)
Posted by: King Leonidas at November 03, 2017 02:07 PM (fSf/G)
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 02:07 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: El Kabong at November 03, 2017 02:07 PM (IdsQK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 03, 2017 02:05 PM (IqV8l)
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So he's only going to get $290,000 in back pay?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 02:07 PM (0f5af)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 03, 2017 02:08 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 02:08 PM (ZBPeS)
I certainly hope The Big Guy allows them to haunt him. Even if it's only a couple of hours per night.
Each.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 03, 2017 02:09 PM (tRaq7)
Posted by: buzzion - guess my sign at November 03, 2017 02:09 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Colin at November 03, 2017 02:09 PM (eF4SX)
Posted by: fluffy at November 03, 2017 02:09 PM (cHbmY)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 03, 2017 02:11 PM (tRaq7)
Muslims are people of color!Even if they are blond haired and blue eyed....
Posted by: steevy at November 03, 2017 02:07 PM (LiyEm)
This one happened to kill five people of color from Argentina.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 03, 2017 02:11 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 02:11 PM (0f5af)
Posted by: The Ficus at November 03, 2017 02:11 PM (7HtZB)
Discharge from a cannon.
Fluidic and Anal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 03, 2017 02:12 PM (k1TUh)
But we are clearly - clearly - past the point where Sessions - BY HIS OWN ASSESSMENT - cannot oversee most/any of the most important cases facing his department and the country.
He should resign. Someone like Judge Mukasey should replace him.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 03, 2017 02:13 PM (QDnY+)
No guarantee that he does not have that as well.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:13 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: SandyCheeks at November 03, 2017 02:14 PM (RUVTD)
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at November 03, 2017 02:14 PM (jWe5r)
Can't wait to boycott the communists.
Posted by: MissingMontana at November 03, 2017 02:14 PM (46Cs5)
Posted by: King Leonidas at November 03, 2017 02:07 PM (fSf/G)
Those are blood curdling curses.
Posted by: auscolpyr at November 03, 2017 02:14 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 02:14 PM (0f5af)
https://youtu.be/8hCCCRAcTAA
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 03, 2017 02:08 PM (IqV8l)
Isn't Uzbekistan part of the Caucasus?
They are Caucasian alright.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 03, 2017 02:15 PM (7uYFy)
Good luck hiding it!!!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:15 PM (UeWTb)
Some people think that Trump criticizing the outcome of governmental processes is somehow an issue of "well, it's your government doing this, dummy". To the extent that it *is*, it's corrective guidance *without* direct interference, a way to gull enemies into thinking he has less power than he does, and a highlight that he hires people whose opinions differ from his own.
To the extent it's *not* "his government", it highlights the many, many ticks of the deep state buried in it...
Posted by: Sporkatus at November 03, 2017 02:16 PM (HtLSE)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 03, 2017 02:16 PM (jsWA8)
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 03, 2017 02:16 PM (nBr1j)
If they let him out in time, he will be making a guest appearance tomorrow at one of the Antifa rallies, giving his "I trust the Taliban more than I trust my country" speech."
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 03, 2017 02:16 PM (wo3jg)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 02:16 PM (fA1SL)
Discharge from a cannon.
Posted by: fluffy at November 03, 2017 02:09 PM (cHbmY)
Anal discharge from eating Oleastra products...
Posted by: JoeF. at November 03, 2017 02:17 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Austin Badger Park at November 03, 2017 01:14 PM (2GTjP)
The first rule of an R being 'liked' by the Ds is that the Ds will betray the R at the first opportunity. Bitches are fickle that way...
Posted by: the Butcher at November 03, 2017 02:17 PM (DIosY)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:15 PM (UeWTb)
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It would probably be trivially easy. Name change and take a non-security-related $35K/year job at a plant somewhere and it's likely no one would ever know who you were.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 02:17 PM (0f5af)
Posted by: Apple Fritters While Rome Burns at November 03, 2017 02:16 PM (fA1SL)
And Turks are whiter than most.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 03, 2017 02:17 PM (7uYFy)
Dagestan, Osseti,a Georgia, Chechnya - Caucaus.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 03, 2017 02:18 PM (QDnY+)
Even Ace was able to launder his shart pants.
DD does not go through the laundry.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:18 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 03, 2017 02:18 PM (Ktb8D)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:18 PM (Zmz55)
So it looks like employers can't ask about the type of discharge an applicant has
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Obama was pushing for a regulation that prohibited employers from asking about previous criminal history. I don't know how that turned out. Did he get his new rule?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 02:19 PM (4XCge)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 03, 2017 02:19 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:19 PM (Zmz55)
A much more realistic prediction than most, but I doubt he works in a plant.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:20 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 03, 2017 02:20 PM (ZBPeS)
Its a leftist slight of hand.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 03, 2017 02:20 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:19 PM (Zmz55)
"...in a fashion reminiscient of Jen-Jiss Caan....."
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 02:20 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 03, 2017 02:20 PM (wo3jg)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 03, 2017 02:21 PM (jsWA8)
Posted by: Buzzion - guess my sign at November 03, 2017 02:21 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:20 PM (UeWTb)
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We're just talking about existing from here on. Plenty of people work in plants earning a living, and it wouldn't take long to be comfortable and live out the rest of your life just like every non-traitor without dishonorable discharges.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 02:21 PM (0f5af)
Dagestan, Osseti,a Georgia, Chechnya - Caucaus.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 03, 2017 02:18 PM (QDnY+)
"Dagestan" sounds like the name of a medicine for upset stomach.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 03, 2017 02:21 PM (7uYFy)
I understand this, but, given the context of the gravity of his crimes and the deaths of fellow soldiers, I respectfully disagree.
Not trying to be flip, but what would you have to do to merit some prison time?
Didn't a guy do time for sending a couple of pictures of the inside of a sub to his parents?
Posted by: RM at November 03, 2017 02:21 PM (U3LtS)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 03, 2017 02:21 PM (QDnY+)
What they did him afterwards is neither here or there, He was a traitor and Put his unit at risk.
and people were killed because of him.
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:23 PM (Zmz55)
Its a leftist slight of hand.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 03, 2017 02:20 PM (7uYFy)
There are lots of "Central Asians" and Tatars there too, but your point is well taken.
That said, there are lots of BLOND White Muslims:
--Bosniaks
--Circassians
--Chechens
--Other various Caucasus region Peoples
--Many Turks
--Some Arabs
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 02:23 PM (ujg0T)
He has other issues he will be dealing with on his own dime rather than the taxpayers thanks to the DD.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:24 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse, Peerless Popovski at November 03, 2017 02:19 PM (4XCge)
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No idea. I just did a search to see what was private information regarding employment. This is taken from: "The Value Of a Veteran - Articles on HOW to Recruit Military Veterans!"
"You CAN ask about the type of discharge received HOWEVER you had better have a good business reason for doing so, otherwise it is advisable NOT to ask for type of discharge."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 02:24 PM (0f5af)
so whatevs.
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:25 PM (Zmz55)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:24 PM (UeWTb)
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He's getting about $300K in back pay, isn't he?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Getting the Banned Back Together at November 03, 2017 02:25 PM (0f5af)
Posted by: Insomniac - Existential Vacuum Salesman at November 03, 2017 02:06 PM (NWiLs)
True! A worthy sequel. The key will be if they can pull a good threequel a la Indy Jones, Back tot he Future, Star Wars, etc.
Posted by: LizLem at November 03, 2017 02:26 PM (hvf9s)
Aren't Uzbeks classified as caucasian?
https://youtu.be/8hCCCRAcTAA
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 03, 2017 02:08 PM
Yep. And so are Iranians and they will let you know up close and personal that they are NOT Arabs or middle easterners. Many of these central asian areas were "settled" by Persians. The Uzbek murderer looks a lot like Ahmadinejad so probably some Persian ancestry.
Posted by: Lester at November 03, 2017 02:26 PM (LfJIn)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 03, 2017 02:21 PM (jsWA
Wouldn't "Traitor!!!" be better? After all, it took some guts to just desert and risk the jihadis mutilating him in some nasty way.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 02:27 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 03, 2017 02:27 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at November 03, 2017 02:27 PM (jAZR9)
Typically rapists and murderers. Child molesters. Crime against persons is the most common.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:28 PM (UeWTb)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 02:23 PM (ujg0T)
Sold a car yesterday to a green-eyed, blonde-haired girl from Syria.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 03, 2017 02:29 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 03, 2017 02:29 PM (yIPKR)
Fucked in the ass for 5 years by girthy Afghans was not therapeutic either.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:30 PM (UeWTb)
CSM, he wasn't really a coward, He was a Traitor, he was pissed at the US. He went to console and aid the other side.
What they did him afterwards is neither here or there, He was a traitor and Put his unit at risk.
and people were killed because of him.
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:23 PM
Well he is the leftie's baby now like "Chelsea" Manning and they get to find out how supremely stupid he is. He joined up because he was too weird and dumb to make a living and that will happen again. He got caught hanging around a pot farm so casual labor and drug use is probably his destiny. In a way being on his own may be a worse punishment since he is so dysfunctional and lazy.
Posted by: Lester at November 03, 2017 02:32 PM (LfJIn)
IIRC, According to historian Stephen Ambrose, there were thousands of deserters in WW2, but they were offered the plea bargain of the lesser charge of being AWOL, and took it, or something like that.
Maybe DD, no benefits whatsoever, and time in the Brig was all we could realistically hope for.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 02:33 PM (ujg0T)
This too is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at November 03, 2017 02:33 PM (jAZR9)
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:35 PM (Zmz55)
I would hope he would find a way to comfort the families of those that gave up their lives to help him.
but i doubt he would even consider it.
Posted by: willow at November 03, 2017 02:37 PM (Zmz55)
we warned them with cantor to do as THEY said they would do.
we asked and gave.
this was all quite a surprising and united message and Nothing they hadn't promised to US the the last several years.
Then we Gave them someone that was listening .. Trump.
so they may scream, but they actually have a tool to complete what They had promised,
so they really should for their futures and america's future.
Posted by: willow"
This.
Exactly.
We gave them everything they said they needed, and now they're basically refusing to do the job ?
O rly ?
Only respect for Ace is keeping me from going all Wall of Profanity about this, and everything else
And don't get me started on the whole AG thing.
kreplach has summed up my thoughts quite well.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 03, 2017 02:37 PM (Ktb8D)
I am satisfied.
If he had got jail time, we would be on the hook for his 3 hots and a cot. And he would be racking up all kinds of vocational training and/or college degree plus medical care. As it is DD and do not let the door hit you in the ass, have a nice life asshole.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at November 03, 2017 02:38 PM (UeWTb)
He got "Time Served", right?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 03, 2017 02:44 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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That's ALL because TRUMP said THE THINGZ!!
Posted by: Strawberry ShortFake Guy at November 03, 2017 03:06 PM (zeEO5)
Posted by: fondolo at November 03, 2017 03:11 PM (qUNuA)
This one happened to kill five people of color from Argentina.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at November 03, 2017 02:11 PM (lKyWE)
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Wow.
Argentina is about 98% white.
This gets sillier and sillier. Uzbeks are Negroes!!! So is the Pope!!!!
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