ABCNews: Computer Found In Steven Paddock's Room, Where Only One Dead Human Being Was Present, Is Missing Its Hard Drive

Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive. https://t.co/Z28zC6VRHL pic.twitter.com/7aa59DjKDu
— Nick Short 🇺🇸 (@PoliticalShort) October 25, 2017

The obvious explanation is that there was a second person in the room who left after Paddock killed himself or who killed Paddock himself, and then fled.

Now, there are other possibilities. Maybe Paddock got rid of the hard drive some time before, but then why keep the computer?

And even if he did get rid of the hard drive himself -- if he was planning on killing himself, what was he protecting? What was on that hard drive?

Posted by: Ace at 03:53 PM

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1 Bigfoot has it

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2017 03:52 PM (IqV8l)

2 Now, there are other possibilities.

The hard drive did it!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 03:52 PM (8gDQu)

3 Even the dead can be embarrassed by their browsing history.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 03:52 PM (gIRsn)

4 Top secret shelf instructions.

Posted by: rifraf at October 25, 2017 03:53 PM (RiEBD)

5 Did they x-ray his stomach?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2017 03:54 PM (IqV8l)

6 BSG has that hard drive now. Looking for pics of a nekkid Winona frolicking in large stacks of Pancakes and smothered in Butter and Maple Syrup.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 25, 2017 03:54 PM (sf2BM)

7 This has us stumped.

Hey, they're a buffet special at Manday! Let's go!!!

/Vegas Strong!!!!

Posted by: Vegas Sheriff's Office at October 25, 2017 03:54 PM (aT+Bx)

8 Maybe he tossed it out the (busted out) window on the 32nd floor and it's in little pieces down below.

Posted by: JohnM at October 25, 2017 03:55 PM (AeNGk)

9 My money's on the video of the shooting taken from in the room. It's in ISIS' hands and they're waiting to release.

Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek at October 25, 2017 03:55 PM (jxw6R)

10
This has us stumped.

Hey, they're a buffet special at Manday! Let's go!!!

/Vegas Strong!!!!

Posted by: Vegas Sheriff's Office at October 25, 2017 03:54 PM
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I guess we'll never know his motive.

Save us seats at the buffet!!!

/hell yes, Vegas Strong!!!!!!

Posted by: NV and CA FBI Agents at October 25, 2017 03:55 PM (aT+Bx)

11 I give up on this.

So much of a cover up.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (fceHP)

12 Ace, add to that Paddock's brother was allegedly arrested today for kiddie pr0n.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (uiwCw)

13
*frowns*

I want moar schadenboner!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (8XRCm)

14 Would you believe a dissolving hard drive?

Posted by: FBI agent Maxwell Smart at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (7ZVPa)

15 Removing a laptop hard drive isn't something one does in a matter of seconds. Was it a secondary drive in a bay? Or an external hard drive, where they found evidence of the external drive still on the laptop? (That would be way more plausible - he could've left the drive somewhere else)

The way the article reads it's like "oh it didn't have any drive at all" but that means the laptop wouldn't even boot. Why the hell would you bring it?

Oh but someone just "removed" the primary hard drive from a laptop? That requires removing the damn case most of the time.

Has anyone reported the make/model of the laptop anywhere?

Posted by: BoB at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (KSwV7)

16 Fucking cover up. Fucking crooked FBI. Makes me sick.

Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (Hucnr)

17 I try mightily to resist leaping to conclusions and wallowing in conspiracy theories, but this one has smelled to high heaven from the get go.

Posted by: kathysaysso at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (vkS2Z)

18 I give up on this.

So much of a cover up.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (fceHP)

Stinks to high heaven of alphabet-agency involvement.

Posted by: filbert at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (s5o+q)

19 It's also worth noting that you don't need a hard drive to use a computer. If Paddock was working off of a live usb, say, then he would have no reason for a hard drive. I used to do that with a lot of my ancient computers that either didn't have hard drives or the drives were too small or were just unusable.

Personally, I never install operating systems on any hard drives. They're just too much of a pain-in-the-ass. I run all my computers off live usbs or live discs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (8gDQu)

20 Is it missing, or wiped clean, like with a cloth?

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (sFMtO)

21 without a HD it was a brick, completely useless. that makes no sense.

Posted by: x at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (nFwvY)

22 Just when JFK's murder can maybe be laid to rest along come this shit.

Can the police in Nevada look anymore incompetent?

Posted by: Moochelle and Her Singular Appendage at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (ny0bQ)

23 Let's put it this way, if Paddock had been a raving, far right loony KKKer, we'd know everything about him, including the brand of underwear he wore.

We'll never know who or what he was.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (PY9jH)

24 Well, if the FBI is telling us this, it must be true.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (7ZVPa)

25

I'm thinking one of those tinfoil hat theories is coming true. But it's too horrible to reveal.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (fceHP)

26 Stinks to high heaven of alphabet-agency involvement.

Posted by: filbert at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (s5o+q)

========

Or a favored PC group that cannot be in any way impugned.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (vg8iE)

27 Some interesting stuff from Laura Loomer:

https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (aT+Bx)

28 FBI has become sinister.

Posted by: CN at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (5gaNQ)

29 How long would it take to remove the hard drive from a laptop? Could it quickly and easily be done by somebody who was looking to get out in a hurry? And if you are in a hurry to get out of the room why take the time to rip the hard drive out instead of just grabbing the whole laptop?

Posted by: mark1971 at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (xPl2J)

30 without a HD it was a brick, completely useless. that makes no sense.

Posted by: x at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (nFwvY)

Absolutely incorrect.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (8gDQu)

31 Why wouldn't the second person just take the whole laptop? I think the drive was taken by someone after collection by the FBI.

Posted by: Guest of the Scotts at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (NPOLV)

32 It's a non-sequitur to say that because the hard drive is missing someone else took it and therefore someone else was in the room. However, that is one possibility that cannot be ruled out.

Posted by: CCO at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (vuPc6)

33 A locked room suicide mystery being investigated by the FBI.

Results?

Unknown.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (ULEme)

34 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 03:57 PM (8gDQu)

THIS ^^^^^^

may be the answer. They better get into the sewer system and start looking for that USB drive.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhah

They'll probably never find it. unless he swallowed it.

Posted by: Moochelle and Her Singular Appendage at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (ny0bQ)

35
Maybe he was building a bitching gaming computer the HD was on backorder. Then, when he went to Vegas to play cards, he accidentally grabbed the wrong laptop and it made him crazy.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (8XRCm)

36 24: Missing in McCabe's desk

Posted by: CN at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (5gaNQ)

37 Relax

It will be found in 2 years on a coffee table in the third floor book room.

Posted by: Webb Hubbell at October 25, 2017 03:59 PM (gYDn2)

38 We'll never know. As soon as it wasn't "crazy conservative white guy" it just disappeared from the news. The FBI is still good at coverups, apparently.

Posted by: brak at October 25, 2017 03:59 PM (WjCgM)

39 What was on that hard drive?

=======

Hillary's deleted emails?

Posted by: ShainS at October 25, 2017 03:59 PM (ZxmL6)

40 FBI has become sinister.
--

We prefer the phrase "morally flexible."

Posted by: The FBI, now with 69% more corruption at October 25, 2017 03:59 PM (aT+Bx)

41 Stinks to high heaven of alphabet-agency involvement.

Posted by: filbert at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (s5o+q)

========

Or a favored PC group that cannot be in any way impugned.
Posted by: bicentennialguy

Would still take an alphabet agency to do the cover up.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2017 03:59 PM (GWm7j)

42 From the gang who can't keep a story straight this might help them.

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (aC6Sd)

43 Off over spending ex-first lady sock

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (ny0bQ)

44
Oooooops.

Our bad. The hard drive is there.

Its the battery that's missing.

Posted by: The FBI at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (8XRCm)

45 Never found the VT shooters hard drive or cell phone. I think the NIU shooter removed his hard drive and his phones SIM card. Even the CT freak tried to destroy his hard drive.

This is not too surprising. The mass shooters research previous shooters frequently.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (p4Tjn)

46 Makes sense. Therefore, the Shooter had to resort to writing out his shooting calculations on a napkin.

Yea there's nothing weird about any of this.

Posted by: praddler at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (MBds8)

47 Maybe he was building a bitching gaming computer the HD was on
backorder. Then, when he went to Vegas to play cards, he accidentally
grabbed the wrong laptop and it made him crazy.
--

This sounds like a viable theory.

We're going to copy and paste this for the Vegas Sheriff's next press conference.

Thanks!

Posted by: The FBI, now with 69% more corruption at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (aT+Bx)

48 @19 But why would you REMOVE the HD if you were keeping all your secret files and even your OS on a removable drive?

You might as well keep the HD for large uncensored-err, _unencrypted_ files.

At any rate, the behavior needs to be explained, and this isn't nearly enough detail to know what happened.

Posted by: BoB at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (KSwV7)

49 At this point I think whatever half cocked theory Alex Jones has on this case has a 50% chance of being true

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 25, 2017 04:01 PM (6Ll1u)

50 That's right! The connection between this post and the last one are there for anyone to see. The hard drive was Paddock's brother's who coordinated the pedophile trips for Clinton.

Posted by: Guest of the Scotts at October 25, 2017 04:01 PM (NPOLV)

51

I hope they x-rayed the killer's dead corpse, well, at least ripped it to shreds.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 25, 2017 04:01 PM (fceHP)

52 It took them this long to realize why it never booted past the BIOS screen?

Top Ramen...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (ULEme)

53 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (4e+hS)

54 Never found the VT shooters hard drive or cell phone. I think the NIU shooter removed his hard drive and his phones SIM card. Even the CT freak tried to destroy his hard drive.

This is not too surprising. The mass shooters research previous shooters frequently.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

Did they take them to the shooting scene with them?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (GWm7j)

55 So he removed the hard drive, ran outside, threw it in the Las Vegas River, ran back upstairs and shot himself in the back of the head.
Got it.

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (HgMAr)

56 And I trust the FBI as much as a far as I could throw them.

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (aC6Sd)

57 "Maybe Paddock got rid of the hard drive some time before, but then why keep the computer?"

My theory on much of this, given his otherwise unremarkable history, is that he wanted to leave a large number of meaningless clues such that there would be more talk about him. The unexamined life not being worth living, and all that jazz.

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at October 25, 2017 04:03 PM (EsHMF)

58 Absolutely incorrect.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrder

OK, but you're saying there was a drive?

Posted by: x at October 25, 2017 04:04 PM (nFwvY)

59 >>>Did they take them to the shooting scene with them?

That is the variable that makes it sinister in this case but nothing unusual in the others?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:04 PM (p4Tjn)

60 Remember when the feds let someone break into Paddock's house? Just like they let someone break into the San Bernadino jihadis' house?
***
Some element in the FBI is in the business of scrubbing inconvenient evidence that would give the plebes the wrong ideas.

The only question at this point is whether the manifesto that was on Paddock's computer complained about:

Donald Trump
Crusaders
Toxic Whiteness
Patriarchy

or some combination of the above.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2017 04:04 PM (Z8FFX)

61 Oooooops.

Our bad. The hard drive is there.

Its the battery that's missing.

Posted by: The FBI at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (8XRCm)
...........

You'll find that right next to your car keys.

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2017 04:04 PM (HgMAr)

62 The hard drive was Paddock's brother's who coordinated the pedophile trips for Clinton.

Posted by: Guest of the Scotts at October 25, 2017 04:01 PM (NPOLV)

Or, in his pic trading online, he downloaded some of Bill in flagrante delicto with some underage girls.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 25, 2017 04:05 PM (uiwCw)

63

remember there was a second phone found in the room too

he had an accomplice

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 25, 2017 04:05 PM (fceHP)

64 @19 But why would you REMOVE the HD if you were keeping all your secret files and even your OS on a removable drive?

You might as well keep the HD for large uncensored-err, _unencrypted_ files.

It depends on how paranoid one is. There are lots of reasons not to have any hard drive, at all.

At any rate, the behavior needs to be explained, and this isn't nearly enough detail to know what happened.

Posted by: BoB at October 25, 2017 04:00 PM (KSwV7)

Absolutely. I'm not saying that Paddock was working off a live usb or something; I'm just letting people know that you don't have to have a hard drive to use a computer and many people operate that way, for all sorts of different reasons.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 04:05 PM (8gDQu)

65 FBI finally figured out that they can get Facebook and other social media to take accounts off line before publishing the perps name.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 25, 2017 04:05 PM (IWbvi)

66 My theory, supported by absolutely nothing, is that he was there to take out one person and went on a shooting spree to cover up the fact he had a specific target.

I know this has nothing to do with the hard drive.

Which the FBI must have.

Next thing you know, they'll find it in the evidence room sitting right next to a GIANT magnet.

Posted by: LASue at October 25, 2017 04:06 PM (hZ+us)

67 As noted above his brother was just arrested for possession of kiddie pron. What a messed up family.

Posted by: GregV61 at October 25, 2017 04:06 PM (+5nuR)

68 It's in the same warehouse repository as JFK's brain and the Ark of the Covenant.

Top.Men.

Posted by: ShainS at October 25, 2017 04:06 PM (ZxmL6)

69 No hard drive? Definitely a little weird, but I'd think his network activity, which is absolutely traceable - from home and the hotel - would reveal more about the guy.

Posted by: Al Crapton, Brooklyn NY at October 25, 2017 04:06 PM (F/4Zj)

70 >>>My theory, supported by absolutely nothing, is that he was there to take out one person and went on a shooting spree to cover up the fact he had a specific target.

Tom Cruise fan?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:06 PM (p4Tjn)

71 All those cameras he had setup... What were they connected to?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (FUu/Z)

72 A quick aside:

When two dozen NFL representatives and players met last week to discuss the issues behind a league-wide protest during the national anthem, it was strange that the guy who started the movement wasnt involved.

That could change.

Colin Kaepernick, who was not at the Oct. 13 get-together in New York, will be invited to the next meeting, an NFL spokesman told reporters Wednesday during a conference call. The meeting is expected to happen Tuesday in New York.

Keep digging nfl.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (SjImc)

73 MiB was NOT just a movie. There are real agents with flashy thingies wiping people's memories.

It's ALIENS!!!!

Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (2vqBf)

74 Bigfoot has it

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 25, 2017 03:52 PM (IqV8l)
...........

No, Michelle has an iron clad alibi.

Posted by: FBI at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (HgMAr)

75 Obviously the aliens took it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (oVJmc)

76 But who was PHONE?????

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (ny0bQ)

77 Huh? What? What time is it?

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (vtcmf)

78 OT: I saw in my lamestream mdeia feed, the msm may have found America's third gold star family.

From what I can tell, another guy has stepped forward to complain that trump can't talk good. America's potential third gold star family apparently was contacted by trump who apparently can't talk good which made the death of the father's son in battle all the more painful and the only remedy being hillary assuming the oval office.

Posted by: Witwickian Sage (muh IP=BooBs) at October 25, 2017 04:07 PM (RDd1I)

79 Fuck up case.. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2017 04:08 PM (SjImc)

80 >>Did they take them to the shooting scene with them?

That is the variable that makes it sinister in this case but nothing unusual in the others?

VT shooter, Sandy Hook, et.al. tend to go to the target location and do the murder promptly. Our guy Paddock camped out for a few days.

So he'd have a laptop on site for news, scrabble, busty lesbian pron, and smart military blogs.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 04:08 PM (gIRsn)

81 Reading the ABC article if he was buying programs to wipe hard drives out a missing hard drive could have been what he was trying to erase but figured to trash or disapear it in other ways

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:08 PM (aC6Sd)

82 We're going to need some more FBI guys, I guess

- Dwayne T Robinson, Deputy Police Chief

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 25, 2017 04:08 PM (7ZVPa)

83 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (4e+hS)

The PI is known for the production and export of "ghost guns". If he was importing guns from the PI, it would make sense.
remember there was a second phone found in the room too

he had an accomplice

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 25, 2017 04:05 PM (fceHP)
IIRC, what they found was a charger for a mobile device that didn't match any of his known devices.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 25, 2017 04:09 PM (uiwCw)

84 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE BEING F*CKED WITH !!

Posted by: Ben Rothlieeeeeesburger at October 25, 2017 04:09 PM (Co9e8)

85 OT: I saw in my lamestream mdeia feed, the msm may have found America's third gold star family.

From what I can tell, another guy has stepped forward to complain that trump can't talk good. America's potential third gold star family apparently was contacted by trump who apparently can't talk good which made the death of the father's son in battle all the more painful and the only remedy being hillary assuming the oval office.
=======

I hope the SOB can sleep at night using his dead son's memory in such a manner. What a lowlife.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 25, 2017 04:09 PM (vg8iE)

86 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (4e+hS)

could be more than guns

over at Circa news

The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock was arrested on child porn charges

4 Hours Ago
The brother of Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock has been arrested in North Hollywood, California for child pornography, authorities confirmed to Fox 11.

The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) on Wednesday said that Bruce Paddock was taken into custody around 7 a.m. local time that morning at an assisted living center on Laurel Canyon Boulevard.

Bruce Paddock is facing possession of child pornography charges after an investigation headed up by the Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force that involved both the FBI and the LAPD.

The investigation started with a tip about Bruce Paddock that came in months before the Las Vegas shooting, but authorities did not know his whereabouts until another tip lead authorities to his North Hollywood location.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 25, 2017 04:09 PM (fceHP)

87 >>>VT shooter, Sandy Hook, et.al. tend to go to the target location and do the murder promptly. Our guy Paddock camped out for a few days.

Yup. A hard drive could be taken out and dropped anywhere at any time.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:10 PM (p4Tjn)

88 Stinks to high heaven of alphabet-agency involvement.

The stench was obvious the day after. We have yet to see a single still from the thousands of hours of video Mandalay Bay has. They know every person in and out of the property. There's sensors on the windows, alarms went off the second they broke.

If this guy wasn't a spook, he was a patsy, if he wasn't a patsy he was a scapegoat picked at random because he had the wrong room at the right time. Or is that the right room at the wrong time? Either way, this whole thing has looked staged from the get-go. Did something go wrong with the false flag story and now they're hoping we just forget about it?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 25, 2017 04:10 PM (RHEDC)

89 "It's a non-sequitur to say that because the hard drive is missing someone else took it and therefore someone else was in the room. However, that is one possibility that cannot be ruled out."

Well obviously a whole lot of people were in that room at some point that night. And a fair number of them carried FBI badges.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 25, 2017 04:10 PM (k1TUh)

90 Obviously, this cries out for an FBI INVESTIGATION.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 25, 2017 04:10 PM (398bZ)

91 29 How long would it take to remove the hard drive from a laptop? Could it quickly and easily be done by somebody who was looking to get out in a hurry? And if you are in a hurry to get out of the room why take the time to rip the hard drive out instead of just grabbing the whole laptop?
Posted by: mark1971 at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (xPl2J)

Ehhh, depends on the computer. I can swap a 2.5 inch SSD out of a laptop in about 2 minutes -- 1 minute 55 seconds of that is unscrewing the 20 fucking miniature screws on the bottom of the case though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:10 PM (wmaTe)

92 66 ... Next thing you know, they'll find it in the evidence room sitting right next to a GIANT magnet.

Posted by: LASue at October 25, 2017 04:06 PM (hZ+us)

Say my name.

Posted by: Not Walter "Heisenberg" White at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (FVLz6)

93 Once again the tinfoil hat crowd is empowered by the authorities acting like total doofuses.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (wZznc)

94 Bigfoot has it

Bigfoot was the name of an old Quantum hard drive. It had a 5.25" footprint instead of a 3.5". Thing was friggin' huge, but they could add a lot of capacity to the bigger disc at a lower price than 3.5".

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (oVJmc)

95 NGU - Talk radio guy brought up this is the year everyone gives up the NFL and the Eagles go to the Superbowl would just figure.

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (aC6Sd)

96 All of this reads like a James Ellroy book.

Posted by: 13times at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (WHVu+)

97 Even better question, why go to all the trouble of removing a hard drive from a laptop?

By definition, a laptop is a portable computer so why not just take the whole computer?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (/tuJf)

98 Missing and destroyed hard drives are kind of our thing lately.

Posted by: FBI at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (HgMAr)

99 My guess is that they're leaning on the brother for info, and trolled his ISP for info. Child porn is a great charge to get a guy thrown in jail, no bail, no contact, no shit for months. One hit with no citation for "models over 18" and he's toast.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 25, 2017 04:12 PM (326rv)

100 I'm sure the FBI has Top Men looking into this. Top. Men.

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 25, 2017 04:13 PM (NWiLs)

101 The FBI goon watching over the pressers has it in his back pocket.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 25, 2017 04:13 PM (mcI77)

102 81 Reading the ABC article if he was buying programs to wipe hard drives out a missing hard drive could have been what he was trying to erase but figured to trash or disapear it in other ways
Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:08 PM (aC6Sd)

If I knew the FBI was going to be able to go over my hard drive, I'd just pop it out, drill a few holes in it, and then either melt it in a fire or drop it in a dumpster somewhere. Fuck trying to make sure it's completely unrecoverable. Way easier just to make the hard drive disappear.

BUT that all begs the question -- do you know whats even easier than that? Making the laptop disappear.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:13 PM (wmaTe)

103
The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock was arrested on child porn charges

Child porn would be a good reason not to have a hard drive.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 25, 2017 04:13 PM (oVJmc)

104 My theory, supported by absolutely nothing, is
that he was there to take out one person and went on a shooting spree to
cover up the fact he had a specific target.

I know this has nothing to do with the hard drive.

Which the FBI must have.

Next thing you know, they'll find it in the evidence room sitting right next to a GIANT magnet.

Posted by: LASue at October 25, 2017 04:06 PM

Janet Airlines. They fly to Area 51. I believe Paddock shot one of their fuel tanks.

There was a *rumor* Trump was going to be in Vegas that night. TOTALLY unsubstantiated.

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 04:13 PM (aT+Bx)

105 Paddock was in the room for a few days humping up weapons and ammo, he removing a hard drive isn't out of the possibility

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:14 PM (aC6Sd)

106 I wanna know what Bob from the NSA has to say

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at October 25, 2017 04:14 PM (IYHxL)

107 By definition, a laptop is a portable computer so why not just take the whole computer?
Posted by: JackStraw

1. The local LEO saw the place first, and thus the laptop. SO the FBI shitcans the HD.

2. The shooter decides to fuck with everyone by ditching the HD sometime before he opens fire, and leaves the laptop there to be found. Remember that his daddy was a successful career criminal. bank robbery. Which means FBI.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 25, 2017 04:14 PM (326rv)

108 All of this reads like a James Ellroy book.

Posted by: 13times at October 25, 2017 04:11 PM (WHVu+)

-------

I, Sniper

by Stephen Hunter.

Posted by: The FBI at October 25, 2017 04:14 PM (8XRCm)

109 I'm guessing defective reporting. Gell-Mann thingy.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 25, 2017 04:14 PM (hjrto)

110
the damn bureau cant even change its sock

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

111 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:10 PM (wmaTe)

laptop i have it's only 2 screws.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (ny0bQ)

112
Here's my theory: Paddock was a known radical leftist to some in the fbi -- so the first thing the Shits in the fbi did was swipe the hard drive AFTER the laptop was taken as evidence.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (aWarA)

113 my TI99/4A was the last computer I had without a hard drive. Used a cassette tape instead.

Posted by: x at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (nFwvY)

114 >>>Next thing you know, they'll find it in the evidence room sitting right next to a GIANT magnet

This is not the Big Easy.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (p4Tjn)

115 Janet Airlines. They fly to Area 51. I believe Paddock shot one of their fuel tanks.

There was a *rumor* Trump was going to be in Vegas that night. TOTALLY unsubstantiated.

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 04:13 PM (aT+Bx)

Aw, hell.

It WAS aliens AFTER ALL!!!

Posted by: filbert at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (s5o+q)

116 The brother of Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock has been arrested in North Hollywood, California for child pornography, authorities confirmed to Fox 11.
***
So the brother has some information that the FBI either wants (positive view) or does NOT want released (view born out by every other FBI investigation of note in recent memory)

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (Z8FFX)

117 An Aussie guest on Paddock's floor said there were multiple shooters and hotel security was chasing a guy who wore the same uni jacket as security.

Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (7l5V0)

118 Dang, this never passed the smell test and now it just plain reeks.

Posted by: Peaches at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (14URa)

119 I'll just continue to pray for the victims and their families because I have No Idea what to make of this.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Baseball Nut at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (Ckg4U)

120 If I knew the FBI was going to be able to go over my hard drive, I'd just pop it out, drill a few holes in it, and then either melt it in a fire or drop it in a dumpster somewhere. Fuck trying to make sure it's completely unrecoverable. Way easier just to make the hard drive disappear.

Meh. You can just write all 0s to the drive (the whole device) and it's all gone. No one is going to get anything off of it.

BUT that all begs the question -- do you know whats even easier than that? Making the laptop disappear.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:13 PM (wmaTe)

Or just put 10 or 20 rounds into it ... since he was shooting everything up, anyway.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (8gDQu)

121 Next thing you know, they'll find it in the evidence room sitting right next to ~~a GIANT magnet~~The Arc of the Covenant.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (mcI77)

122 meh, paddock just didn't want any pesky lingering metadata or cookies giving away anything. he probably used the drive until the last moment, dumped it, and started firing (or started getting killed as a proxy for whoever actually did it).

Posted by: Witwickian Sage (muh IP=BooBs) at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (RDd1I)

123 Someone in this room...WAS A MURDERER!!!

Posted by: Inspector Fife: FBI at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (O5Q3r)

124 Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at October 25, 2017 04:14 PM (IYHxL)

Just you never mind what I have to say!

Posted by: Bob From the N$A (We're Listening to YOU!) at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (ny0bQ)

125 Never mind, we found the hard drive over here in the closet next to this industrial grade magnet.

Posted by: FBI at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (6n332)

126
I think some leftist Shits in the FBI don't want to have another James Hodgkinson. It's just bad press for their Narrative.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (aWarA)

127 laptop i have it's only 2 screws.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:15 PM (ny0bQ)

Lucky.

With only 2 screws, you can swap a hard drive very quickly.

My HP EliteBook has about a million screws (roughly) and my Chromebooks all have over a dozen screws.

My iPad only has 2 screws though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (wmaTe)

128 50
That's right! The connection between this post and the last one are
there for anyone to see. The hard drive was Paddock's brother's who
coordinated the pedophile trips for Clinton.

Posted by: Guest of the Scotts at October 25, 2017 04:01 PM (NPOLV)

****
A this point in the history of our Republic - the fact that you can even write that sentence merely sarcastically - and not in a crazy, Jabberwocky, gibberish way - is proof that we have reached the burning times.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (Fb9aZ)

129 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:10 PM (wmaTe)

laptop i have it's only 2 screws.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger a

An older one in my family (Dell installed with Win7) required the entire damn thing be taken apart to access the HD.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (326rv)

130 Could be he took the hard drive out and tossed it out the window. Not saying that is what happened. I am just saying it is a possibility. With all that chaos on the ground, a little hard drive might never be found.

Posted by: Gridlock at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (5G252)

131 All of this reads like a James Ellroy book.

--

Ellroy is more organized. Better than this. And certainly more believable.

This is sort of a random, unconnected, disorganized crapshoot that a publisher probably wouldn't buy.

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (aT+Bx)

132 It would make sense to remove the hard drive if it was noted (and photographed) as being in the room - so whoever did it couldn't remove the laptop, but could swipe the drive.

So, a spook covering for another spook?

Has anybody figured out why they were hauling so many cadavers out of Hooters?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (RHEDC)

133 I'm not saying it was OJ... but...

Posted by: Special Agent Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (HgMAr)

134 That is the variable that makes it sinister in this case but nothing unusual in the others?

Yes. If he didn't have the drive with him, why bother with bringing the laptop?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (GWm7j)

135 Or just put 10 or 20 rounds into it ... since he was shooting everything up, anyway.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (8gDQu)

Yes, that would work fairly well, too, I'd imagine.

Although I've never tried it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (wmaTe)

136 [iMy iPad only has 2 screws though.]

That's sad.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (vtcmf)

137 91
29 How long would it take to remove the hard drive from a laptop? Could
it quickly and easily be done by somebody who was looking to get out in a
hurry? And if you are in a hurry to get out of the room why take the
time to rip the hard drive out instead of just grabbing the whole
laptop?

Posted by: mark1971 at October 25, 2017 03:58 PM (xPl2J)

Ehhh, depends on the computer. I can swap a 2.5 inch SSD out of a
laptop in about 2 minutes -- 1 minute 55 seconds of that is unscrewing
the 20 fucking miniature screws on the bottom of the case though.
====
That is what I thought about Harry. Pulling the hard drive usually involves dismantling the PC, so if the shooter had done it, would have been obvious. I smell a rat, tinfoil not required..

Posted by: exdem13 at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (wZznc)

138 blackmail photos/video with wifi and connection to some kind of torrent in case he tried to back out last minute?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (hcyUh)

139 he probably used the drive until the last moment,
dumped it, and started firing (or started getting killed as a proxy for
whoever actually did it).

Posted by: Witwickian Sage (muh IP=BooBs) at October 25, 2017 04:16 PM (RDd1I)
So, what, you think he flushed it down the toilet?

Posted by: Peaches at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (14URa)

140 But what about the candlesticks ???

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (AoK0a)

141 It would have been nice not to have any conspiracy in this, but doubting the FBI could do that or is up to the task.

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (aC6Sd)

142 the dingo ate my tags

Posted by: Sandra Flook at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (vtcmf)

143 >>106 I wanna know what Bob from the NSA has to say

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at October 25, 2017 04:14 PM (IYHxL)

Bob is on vacation again. I'm filling in for him.

Posted by: Eugene from NSA at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (mcI77)

144 Any reports on what kind of laptop it was? Given that he was a cheap bastard (reports of eating at old folks home), I wonder if the laptop was one of those old ginormous old people laptops?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (p4Tjn)

145
The idea that Paddock had NO internet trail and left NO indication of motive is ASININE.

The investigation was CORRUPTED by the investigators. Most likely, the FBI.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (aWarA)

146 It was Hillary's emails. Now we'll never know.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (BoMuO)

147 No one expects...AN FBI INVESTIGATION.

Posted by: Monty Python at October 25, 2017 04:19 PM (398bZ)

148 Hannity is talking about Assange.

Something hit me.

Perhaps Trump isn't talking to Assange because it would stop the collusion story in its tracks.

But if we follow this track, EVERYTHING has to come out. All the dirty little leads and actions and ALL the crimes.

So maybe Trump is playing the long game, and Assange is part of the short game, so he can't use him right now?

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 04:19 PM (aT+Bx)

149
I have no doubt whatsoever the FBI is RIFE with rogue agents with a radical leftist political agenda.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:19 PM (aWarA)

150 130 Could be he took the hard drive out and tossed it out the window. Not saying that is what happened. I am just saying it is a possibility. With all that chaos on the ground, a little hard drive might never be found.
Posted by: Gridlock at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (5G252)

Well, I suppose -- but modern solid state drives are pretty durable.

A drop from that high though would probably destroy it. But I would assume the cops searched the area around the shooting and had it taped off and someone would have said "hmmm, this is odd... It looks like a mangled SSD"

But again -- why not just drop the whole laptop out the window, then? Why just the hard drive?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:19 PM (wmaTe)

151 It could be that O.J. wanted revenge and Elvis Presley tried to stop him.

We'll never know.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Baseball Nut at October 25, 2017 04:19 PM (Ckg4U)

152 Damaging dirt on hard drive. Damaging to FBI. Democrats?

Posted by: Phildirt at October 25, 2017 04:19 PM (j2mKL)

153 I'm not saying it was OJ... but...
Posted by: Special Agent Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at October 25, 2017 04:17 PM (HgMAr)

------

32nd Floor.

Jucies number - 32.

On the day he gets out of prison.

DOES THE FBI KNOW ABOUT THIS????

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (8XRCm)

154 >>>Yes. If he didn't have the drive with him, why bother with bringing the laptop?

You realize he was in the room for a couple days before the shooting, right?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (p4Tjn)

155 32nd Floor.

Jucies number - 32.

On the day he gets out of prison.

DOES THE FBI KNOW ABOUT THIS????

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (8XRCm)

Wouldn't matter. They can't count to 32.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (8gDQu)

156 It was Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick.

(The next Las Vegas Sheriff's press release.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (ny0bQ)

157 >>1. The local LEO saw the place first, and thus the laptop. SO the FBI shitcans the HD.

>>2. The shooter decides to fuck with everyone by ditching the HD sometime before he opens fire, and leaves the laptop there to be found. Remember that his daddy was a successful career criminal. bank robbery. Which means FBI

Do we know this or is that just speculation?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2017 04:21 PM (/tuJf)

158 32nd Floor.

Jucies number - 32.

On the day he gets out of prison.

DOES THE FBI KNOW ABOUT THIS????

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (8XRCm)
Thank God I have an ample supply of tin foil. BRB.

Posted by: Peaches at October 25, 2017 04:21 PM (14URa)

159
This is what the aftermath of 8 years of the muslim anti-american radical leftist obama looks like.

What did you expect?

Did you really expect obama would leave January 20, 2017 and everything would go back to normal?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:21 PM (aWarA)

160 Top. Men.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 25, 2017 04:21 PM (398bZ)

161 Fucking cover up. Fucking crooked FBI. Makes me sick.

Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (Hucnr)
====================================

Yes.

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2017 04:21 PM (lwiT4)

162 Is...THIS your hard drive!
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh....Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...

Posted by: David Copperfield: Master Magician at October 25, 2017 04:21 PM (O5Q3r)

163
I wonder if then names "Hodgkinson" and/or "Durbin" are on that HD?

Hey, I'm just asking the questions, yo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (mbhDw)

164 The idea that Paddock had NO internet trail and left NO indication of motive is ASININE.

For a guy with quite a bit of money to throw around it is *amazing* how there was nothing on him in the media before this shooting.

And I'm good at looking...

Outside of him maybe at a pussy hat protest...

My guess, he got radicalized very recently, joined Ameri-Fa and decided to shoot a bunch of Trump voting country music fans instead of shouting at the sky...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (Z8FFX)

165 161 Fucking cover up. Fucking crooked FBI. Makes me sick.

Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (Hucnr)

Yeesh. Talk about a comment valid for all threads lately....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (hcyUh)

166 You realize he was in the room for a couple days before the shooting, right?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (p4Tjn

I suppose I can see a scenario where he dicks around on the laptop for the first few days he was there, takes the hard drive out right before the shooting (a few hours, maybe), goes down to the casino floor or whatever and ditches it in a garbage can. Decides to ditch just the drive because it's easier to conceal and ditch then an entire laptop.

But they'd have video of that. It's a Las Vegas casino. Places have more cameras than, well... (usually I use a casino in this example)... anywhere.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (wmaTe)

167 145

The idea that Paddock had NO internet trail and left NO indication of motive is ASININE.

The investigation was CORRUPTED by the investigators. Most likely, the FBI.

====
This sounds like another job for the weaponized autism of the Happy Hackers of 4chan.

Posted by: exdem13 at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (wZznc)

168 HARD DRIVES DON'T FALL AT THE SPEED OF GRAVITY!!! Bush did it!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (BoMuO)

169 You realize he was in the room for a couple days before the shooting, right?

So why not get rid of the whole laptop? Why just the hd?
No laptop, no questions.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (GWm7j)

170 My theory is a dirty agent snatched the drive has/is going to sell it to the highest bidder.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (mcI77)

171 Posted by: Eugene from NSA at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (mcI77)

Whut? Eugene get off this line, now.

I see you down by the water cooler laughing your ass off.

Go back to your cube. Don't you have someone to harass?

Posted by: Bob From the N$A (We're Listening to YOU!) at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (ny0bQ)

172 The Deep State isn't even trying to hide it anymore. Which is, in itself, a message to the country.

Posted by: Monty James at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (gKOMX)

173 This fouls-up my three Man Laws.

-I can't fix it.

-I can't fuck it.

-I can't fight it.

I'm just going to leave it to the Conspiracy Theorists and whatever remaining law we have left in these great United States of America.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Baseball Nut at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (Ckg4U)

174
#hashcheck
Thirty Three hours without electricity because of an effin wind storm.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (4XCge)

175 Too bad ISIS is defunct now. If there were still any left, we could ask them what happened.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (/qEW2)

176 Reminds me of the Monty Python railway schedules skit.

"Sure he shot himself, and then hid the gun."
"How could he shoot himself without first cancelling his reservation?"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (l9m7l)

177
I don't even know the timeline of all this to make an educated guess on the hard drive. Does anybody?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (r+sAi)

178 I don't know how or why the shooter removed the hard drive (or how long it may have taken), but it seems damned inconsiderate of him to have complicated the investigators investigation this way.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (5NMZN)

179 well ABC is reporting it and I'm sure the FBI is investigating it so...it's a TRUMP cover up!

Posted by: DanMan at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (XTiHL)

180 The Deep State isn't even trying to hide it anymore.
***
They got outed as wire tapping the president of the United States and nothing happened to them. They believe, rightly, that they are untouchable.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (Z8FFX)

181 >>>Decides to ditch just the drive because it's easier to conceal and ditch then an entire laptop.
But they'd have video of that.

Did you see the clothes he wore? How would a video show when he had a hard drive on him? Who knows? He could have ditched it any time.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (p4Tjn)

182 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.
--

Damaging dirt on hard drive. Damaging to FBI. Democrats?

--

Fast and Furious- FBI gun running to cartels in Mexico.

Paddock: FBI gun running to ISIS in Phillipines

/yeah, they wouldn't want us to know about this, would they? The FBI: both causing and stopping drug deaths AND terrorism deaths.

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (aT+Bx)

183 We did NOT contaminate the crime scene... shit, anybody seen my comb?

Posted by: Special Agent Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (HgMAr)

184 got to be a government agent - hiding his real identity is worth more to them than the truth

Posted by: jihadi at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (I64i9)

185
btw, remember the time here when the worst thing you could say was you doubted obama was born in the USA?

You would be called a BIRTHER!! like it was the worst thing in the world to be accused of.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (aWarA)

186 DOES THE FBI KNOW ABOUT THIS????

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:20 PM (8XRCm)
Thank God I have an ample supply of tin foil. BRB.
Posted by: Peaches at October 25, 2017 04:21 PM (14URa)

-----

AND.... Peaches. he was released IN VEGAS!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (8XRCm)

187 180 The Deep State isn't even trying to hide it anymore.
***
They got outed as wire tapping the president of the United States and nothing happened to them. They believe, rightly, that they are untouchable.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (Z8FFX)

The Untouchables was a TV and a Hindu Caste, not a playbook.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (mbhDw)

188 My guess, he got radicalized very recently, joined Ameri-Fa and decided to shoot a bunch of Trump voting country music fans instead of shouting at the sky...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (Z8FFX)

Is it me, or has Antifa been keeping a very low profile since the Vegas shootings?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (7uYFy)

189
obama was born in Hawaii, my ass.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (aWarA)

190 I continue to propose that Paddock should be referred to as deep state operative Steven Paddock until some reliable source proves otherwise.

Since they seem to want to prevent any material facts about the incident to come to light, it seems only fair.

Posted by: Methos at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (XQvuQ)

191 Has anybody seen the video taken of the FBI "cleanup"? It's interesting that there's no bullet holes, no broken glass, nothing. Just some markings on the blacktop. No stray bullets at all? No chipped concrete? Each bullet magically found its intended target?

Some guy was taking the video at the Mandalay Bay, looks to be about the same elevation with a fairly decent HD camera and digital zoom. In the last video it actually looks like the FBI agent is putting something on the glass of one of the trailers. But mostly FBI in little booties walking around with paint rollers.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (RHEDC)

192 I'm sure it has been posted up thread but...it could be that the FBI stole the hard drive.

I trust the Obama politicized FBI as far as i can throw them

Still think it was a democrat operative operation.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable, Profoundly Unserious & Immature Scientifically at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (3BFzK)

193 In the job that I just now lost, I used to repair and replace drives in laptops.

For most models, it takes a good ten-twenty minutes to remove a drive.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (l9m7l)

194 184 got to be a government agent - hiding his real identity is worth more to them than the truth
Posted by: jihadi at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (I64i9)

John Mohammed Brennan's influence lingers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (mbhDw)

195
The idea that Paddock had NO internet trail and left NO indication of motive is ASININE.

The investigation was CORRUPTED by the investigators. Most likely, the FBI.

---

You people are very untrustworthy ,and that's suspicious.

We're going to send your ISPs over to our friends at the IRS.

Posted by: The FBI, now with 69% more corruption at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (aT+Bx)

196 Laptop belonged to previous occupant of room. Broke down. So HDD was yanked and stuck in a new lappy. Old one left behind for trash.

Maid didn't bother snagging it.

Shooter was too busy to notice it.

Case closed. Y'all can go home now.

(Yes, i am just being facetious.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (hcyUh)

197 AND.... Peaches. he was released IN VEGAS!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:24 PM (8XRCm)
I'm not in a coma, I actually knew this.

Posted by: Peaches at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (14URa)

198 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.

Over the counter legal guns? At retail prices? When he could have ran full auto ak's from the sandbox for $100 a gun?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (GWm7j)

199 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.

-----

Ummmmm ..... why????

A metric fuckton of arm are already manufactured there.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (8XRCm)

200 Missing hard drive? Check behind the copy machine at Los Alamos.

Posted by: 13times at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (WHVu+)

201 The Russkies pissed on the hard drive.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (Nwg0u)

202 Mass murderers frequent,y destroy their hard drives. I guess one reason could be they look at twisted things they are ashamed of and have wacky delusions about conspiracies.

Also Paddock like his bro was handy with electronics. He could use a computer without a hard drive. No trail to follow is good if you mean to escape, or just thwart the massive conspiracy that is against you in your CRAZEE me-centric delusion.

The whole,family has mental health issues that are probably to a high percentage genetic. Not wired up right defines them all.

Posted by: SarahW at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (Sp1NT)

203 An older one in my family (Dell installed with Win7) required the entire damn thing be taken apart to access the HD.

I have an old Dell where the hard drive just slides out. It was probably meant to latch at some point.

When my computer gets wonky or won't boot I just slide it out and slap it back in place.

I'd show you right now, but then I'd be offline for ten minutes rebooting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (gIRsn)

204 1. The local LEO saw the place first, and thus the laptop. SO the FBI shitcans the HD.

>>2. The shooter decides to fuck with everyone by ditching the HD sometime before he opens fire, and leaves the laptop there to be found. Remember that his daddy was a successful career criminal. bank robbery. Which means FBI

Do we know this or is that just speculation?
Posted by: JackStraw

Speculation.

We do know that his father was a career criminal, who did bank robberies. That automatically means FBI involvement. So this vermin may have some learned experience with the FBI.

Either that laptop is a red herring, or he or someone else took whatever was being used to run it.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (326rv)

205
Fire can't melt hard drives!

Posted by: Rosie ODonnell at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (r+sAi)

206 Oy vey. I think one of two things is at work. Either gross, bungling, Keystone Kop level incompetence, or an effort to conceal, scrub, or cover up something. What that something is, I really don't know. But this is a total clusterfuck.

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

207 189
obama was born in Hawaii, my ass.
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (aWarA)

He was born in Hawaii. He FAKED being Kenyan in order to be a sexier candidate for Harvard and Columbia. That was the lie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (mbhDw)

208 171 Posted by: Eugene from NSA at October 25, 2017 04:18 PM (mcI77)

Whut? Eugene get off this line, now.

I see you down by the water cooler laughing your ass off.

Go back to your cube. Don't you have someone to harass?

Posted by: Bob From the N$A (We're Listening to YOU!) at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (ny0bQ)

Ha ha Bob. All in fun but, there is that wager you lost at the track the other day...

Posted by: Eugene from NSA at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (mcI77)

209 My guess, he got radicalized very recently, joined
Ameri-Fa and decided to shoot a bunch of Trump voting country music fans
instead of shouting at the sky...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 25, 2017 04:22 PM (Z8FFX)

I'm really not much of a tin hat guy, but I'm starting to suspect this as well. Either that or he went full ISIS via his girlfriend.Either way, there does seem to be alot of hinky things about this case that make it seem like more than just a random nut job who wanted to shoot people.And it seems like something "they" don't want the public to know. Whoever "they" is in this case. FBI? Media? Local police?
The truth will come out, like it always does. But they're certainly delaying it as long as possible. And that could be for good reason for all we know. Possibly because there's more to it and they need quiet to sort it out. Who knows?

Posted by: Agemt Cooper at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (oyCqX)

210
President Trump needs to tweet this: I get along with all the Republicans...except for a few irrelevant malcontents.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (aWarA)

211 He may have removed the hard drive in his room and dumped it sometime before he started shooting since he was in the room for a few days.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (hjrto)

212 "Was it because of a protest, or was it because of a some guys in a room one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Posted by: Hillary! at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (ctuyM)

213 With everything else so "mysterious" about this shooter, I'm not too surprised he removed the laptop HD.

He could have tossed it out through the smashed windows.

He could have flushed it. As tiny as these things are, it isn't like the hotel's plumbing couldn't handle it. One shudders to think what it has handled.

Why hide it? Keep the LEO off his tracks. What could he be hiding? Any links to accomplices, his porn stash, info on where he may have money stashed.

Wonder if the brilliant minds of the FBI has bothered looking below the windows he smashed out and the surrounding ground?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 25, 2017 04:28 PM (jxbfJ)

214 When my computer gets wonky or won't boot I just slide it out and slap it back in place.

I'd show you right now, but then I'd be offline for ten minutes rebooting.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (gIRsn)

----

Heh.

Kids and their euphemisms these days...

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:28 PM (8XRCm)

215 Yor speculate Iran Awan involved. Also, RUSSIA!!1!!11

Posted by: Yor, the Hunter from the Future at October 25, 2017 04:28 PM (Jj+59)

216 Thirty Three hours without electricity because of an effin wind storm.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (4XCge)
============================

Oh no! Is your heat and water dependent on electricity?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2017 04:28 PM (lwiT4)

217 The fucking whackjob in suite 32135 ordered room service. Did the contents of his stomach match the order on the receipt? hmm. Someone should do some hard-nose investigatin' and shit.

Posted by: Fritz at October 25, 2017 04:28 PM (Kwhm/)

218 199 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.

-----

Ummmmm ..... why????

A metric fuckton of arm are already manufactured there.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (8XRCm)

Armscor is headquartered there. Big guns and ammo manufacturer.

Posted by: Insomniac - Just a Poor Boy, Nobody Loves Me at October 25, 2017 04:29 PM (NWiLs)

219 209 Posted by: Agemt Cooper at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (oyCqX)

So, what will ISIS do?

If they release the tape, they embolden Trump's position and weaken the Taqqiya-Sharia pushers.

If they don't, then they get no credit.

Thoughts?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:29 PM (mbhDw)

220 170 My theory is a dirty agent snatched the drive has/is going to sell it to the highest bidder.
Posted by: Under Fire at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (mcI77)

Or TMZ has it.

They seem to get the most absurd shit somehow.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:29 PM (wmaTe)

221 >>Mass murderers frequent,y destroy their hard drives. I guess one reason could be they look at twisted things they are ashamed of and have wacky delusions about conspiracies.

You mean like his brother who was arrested in LA today for possession of child porn on his computer?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2017 04:29 PM (/tuJf)

222 My guess, he got radicalized very recently, joined

Ameri-Fa and decided to shoot a bunch of Trump voting country music fans

instead of shouting at the sky...

--

Nah. But that was one of my early thoughts.

Reports say Paddock also checked out two other festivals: Life is Beautiful and Lollapalooza, both of which are for young libtard audiences.

/so... back to ISIS or FBI gun running.

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (aT+Bx)

223 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Baseball Nut at October 25, 2017 04:23 PM (Ckg4U)

that reminds me. I'm sure we've all seen similar lists and stuff but this one gave me a chuckle. The all caps are the writers not mine.

WE ALWAYS HEAR 'THE RULES' FROM THE FEMALE SIDE
NOW HERE ARE THE RULES FROM THE MALE SIDE

THESE ARE OUR RULES!

PLEASE NOTE. THESE ARE ALL NUMBERED #1 ON PURPOSE!

1. MEN ARE NOT MIND READERS.

1. LEARN TO WORK THE TOILET SEAT. YOU'RE A BIG GIRL. IF IT'S UP, PUT IT DOWN. WE NEED IT UP, YOU NEED IT DOWN. YOU DON'T HEAR US COMPLAINING ABOUT YOU LEAVING IT DOWN.

1. CRYING IS BLACKMAIL.

1. ASK FOR WHAT YOU WANT. LET US BE CLEAR ON THIS ONE:

SUBTLE HINTS DO NOT WORK!
STRONG HINTS DO NOT WORK!
OBVIOUS HINTS DO NOT WORK!
JUST SAY IT!

1. YES AND NO ARE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE ANSWERS TO ALMOST EVERY QUESTION.

1.. COME TO US WITH A PROBLEM ONLY IF YOU WANT HELP SOLVING IT. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. SYMPATHY IS WHAT YOUR GIRLFRIENDS ARE FOR.

1. ANYTHING WE SAID 6 MONTHS AGO IS INADMISSIBLE IN AN ARGUMENT. IN FACT, ALL COMMENTS BECOME NULL AND VOID AFTER 7 DAYS.

1. IF YOU THINK YOU'RE FAT, YOU PROBABLY ARE. DON'T ASK US.

1. IF SOMETHING WE SAID CAN BE INTERPRETED TWO WAYS AND ONE OF THE WAYS MAKES YOU SAD OR ANGRY, WE MEANT THE OTHER ONE.

1. YOU CAN EITHER ASK US TO DO SOMETHING OR TELL US HOW YOU WANT IT DONE. NOT BOTH.
IF YOU ALREADY KNOW BEST HOW TO DO IT, JUST DO IT YOURSELF.

1. WHENEVER POSSIBLE, PLEASE SAY WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO SAY DURING COMMERCIALS.

1. CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS DID NOT NEED DIRECTIONS AND NEITHER DO WE...

1. ALL MEN SEE IN ONLY 16 COLORS, LIKE WINDOWS DEFAULT SETTINGS..
PEACH, FOR EXAMPLE, IS A FRUIT, NOT A COLOR. PUMPKIN IS ALSO A FRUIT. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT MAUVE IS.

1. IF WE ASK WHAT IS WRONG AND YOU SAY 'NOTHING,' WE WILL ACT LIKE NOTHING'S WRONG. WE KNOW YOU ARE LYING, BUT IT IS JUST NOT WORTH THE HASSLE.

1. IF YOU ASK A QUESTION YOU DON'T WANT AN ANSWER TO, EXPECT AN ANSWER YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR..

1. WHEN WE HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE, ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING YOU WEAR IS FINE...REALLY.

1.. DON'T ASK US WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT UNLESS YOU ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS SUCH TOPICS AS FOOTBALL OR MOTOR SPORTS.

1. YOU HAVE ENOUGH CLOTHES.

1 .. YOU HAVE TOO MANY SHOES.

1. I AM IN SHAPE. ROUND IS A SHAPE!

1.. THANK YOU FOR READING THIS. YES, I KNOW, I HAVE TO SLEEP ON THE COUCH TONIGHT.. BUT DID YOU KNOW MEN REALLY DON'T MIND THAT? IT'S LIKE CAMPING...

PASS THIS TO AS MANY MEN AS YOU CAN - TO GIVE THEM A LAUGH...

PASS THIS TO AS MANY WOMEN AS YOU CAN - TO GIVE THEM A BIGGER LAUGH, BECAUSE ITS TRUE

Posted by: Bob From the N$A (We're Listening to YOU!) at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (ny0bQ)

224 It was Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick.
.............

But the maid said it was consensual.

Posted by: Special Agent Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (HgMAr)

225 Would you believe a dissolving hard drive?

-
As always, Mr. Paddock, if you or any of your IMF is killed or captured the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

Psssssst!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (Nwg0u)

226 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (mbhDw)

I agree but unfortunately there are other inconsistencies with the hospital and the birth certificate he presented that keep the issue going.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (hjrto)

227 Pennsylvania election officials say noncitizen immigrants may have cast 544 ballots illegally out of more than 93 million ballots in elections spanning 18 years in the state.

Except those 544 self identified as "mistakenly" registering.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (BoMuO)

228 199 Some guy on twitter stated Paddock was running guns to the Philippines.

-----

Ummmmm ..... why????

A metric fuckton of arm are already manufactured there.

+++++++++

right? why this glom onto gun running? the whole world's covered in ak47's already.

if anyone needs guns, it's the few remaining patriots in conquered europe

Posted by: Witwickian Sage (muh IP=BooBs) at October 25, 2017 04:31 PM (RDd1I)

229 >>>Mass murderers frequent,y destroy their hard drives. I guess one reason could be they look at twisted things they are ashamed of and have wacky delusions about conspiracies.

He was recording his every move with multiple cameras. Does that sound like someone who wanted to leave behind a mystery?

Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2017 04:31 PM (q177U)

230 >>>No trail to follow is good if you mean to escape, or just thwart the massive conspiracy that is against you in your CRAZEE me-centric delusion.

It is not even about a trail to follow for escape. As I mentioned, VT, NIU, and Sandy Hook shooters all either vanished their hard drives and phones or tried to destroy. All died of self- inflicted gunshot wounds. These guys study one another.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:32 PM (p4Tjn)

231 Also Paddock like his bro was handy with electronics. He could use a computer without a hard drive. No trail to follow is good if you mean to escape, or just thwart the massive conspiracy that is against you in your CRAZEE me-centric delusion.

The whole,family has mental health issues that are probably to a high percentage genetic. Not wired up right defines them all.
Posted by: SarahW at October 25, 2017 04:26 PM (Sp1NT)

Sure. Its possible he ran his machine off a small thumb drive, which he could have ditched out the window (or even flushed).

Unlikely, but possible.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:32 PM (wmaTe)

232 It's interesting that there's no bullet holes, no broken glass, nothing. Just some markings on the blacktop. No stray bullets at all? No chipped concrete? Each bullet magically found its intended target?

WTF are you getting at? A couple hundred people wore squibs and 50-some were the splody kind that kill you?

Once we get into conspiracy territory everything sounds sinister. But what possible implication could you be trying to draw?

*exits to theremin noises*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 04:32 PM (gIRsn)

233 Bob has been temporarily shifted to another department.

He may (or may not) be back.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:32 PM (ny0bQ)

234
So, what will ISIS do?

If they release the tape, they embolden Trump's position and weaken the Taqqiya-Sharia pushers.

If they don't, then they get no credit.

Thoughts?
---

Some of the non-governmental jihadi experts have talked about instances where ISIS has released stuff later.

So... an eventual release. Maybe when the FBI is about to close the case.

Posted by: shibumi at October 25, 2017 04:32 PM (aT+Bx)

235 Maybe have nekkidpix of Heather Lind. Barbara Bush tell Yor Heather big hottie.

Posted by: Yor, the Hunter from the Future at October 25, 2017 04:32 PM (Jj+59)

236 226 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:27 PM (mbhDw)

I agree but unfortunately there are other inconsistencies with the hospital and the birth certificate he presented that keep the issue going.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (hjrto)

Well, it's kind of moot at this point anyway. I want to see him, the Clintons and Soros exposed and somehow torpedoed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:33 PM (mbhDw)

237 213
With everything else so "mysterious" about this shooter, I'm not too surprised he removed the laptop HD.

It's probably a long shot, but he may have had a confederate(s) that took the drive. I've read that muslims sometimes have "helpers" along when they commit terror operations. These helpers stay with them for days before, help them plan, and stay close to the terrorist almost to the end, mostly to guide them and keep them steady and make sure they don't wimp out and go through with it.

Again, not likely I guess from what we know. But makes me wonder....

Posted by: Agemt Cooper at October 25, 2017 04:33 PM (oyCqX)

238 If someone else was in there and killed him, why not just take the whole computer?

Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at October 25, 2017 04:33 PM (mf5HN)

239 Yor Google Heather. Might be Barbara wrong . Might be tit job there.

Posted by: Yor, the Hunter from the Future at October 25, 2017 04:33 PM (Jj+59)

240
You're a fucking idiot ace.

Posted by: some cuck at October 25, 2017 04:31 PM (tlJ54)

Looks like we have a live one!

Is that you, chemjeff?
Is that you, allahpundit?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:33 PM (aWarA)

241 >>234 Bob has been temporarily shifted to another department.

He may (or may not) be back.

That fucker owes me money!

Posted by: Eugene from NSA at October 25, 2017 04:34 PM (mcI77)

242 Oh wait this is another sources say article so it's as true as everything else that "sources say".

Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at October 25, 2017 04:34 PM (mf5HN)

243 Posted by: Bob From the N$A (We're Listening to YOU!) at October 25, 2017 04:30 PM (ny0bQ)

The all-caps are rather annoying.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:34 PM (mbhDw)

244 is someone socking ace? That's a big no no.

Posted by: Max Power at October 25, 2017 04:34 PM (q177U)

245 "The Dingo gotcha hard drive."

Posted by: Beto In Austin at October 25, 2017 04:34 PM (DWgH4)

246
It's a troll, sherlock.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 25, 2017 04:34 PM (aWarA)

247 I think the FBI needs to be scrapped altogether, or shut down and rebuilt from the ground up. They have lost the trust of the American people. The Untouchables they ain't anymore.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 25, 2017 04:35 PM (BoMuO)

248
I'll be so pissed if Bob from the NSA gets transferred and we get that Eugene tool.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 25, 2017 04:35 PM (r+sAi)

249 The way the article reads it's like "oh it didn't have any drive at all" but that means the laptop wouldn't even boot. Why the hell would you bring it?

Oh but someone just "removed" the primary hard drive from a laptop? That requires removing the damn case most of the time.

Has anyone reported the make/model of the laptop anywhere?

Posted by: BoB at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (KSwV7)

You can boot a laptop with no hard drive by using a Linux Live CD or thumb drive. I have done it, and it's not difficult at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 25, 2017 04:35 PM (O848g)

250 Paddock ate the hard drive, digested it, then shot him self

Posted by: Votermom's phone at October 25, 2017 04:36 PM (0h21v)

251 239 If someone else was in there and killed him, why not just take the whole computer?

Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at October 25, 2017 04:33 PM (mf5HN)

Easier to blend in with a 2.5 inch hard drive in your pocket (is that a laptop hard drive or are you just glad to see me?) then carrying a full size laptop.

...I don't know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:36 PM (wmaTe)

252
Expect to see LOTS of agitated and frustrated trolls.

All their hopes have been dashed.

President Trump is

Just

Getting

Started.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 25, 2017 04:36 PM (aWarA)

253 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 25, 2017 04:35 PM (O848g)

Why did you have a laptop with no hard drive?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (hjrto)

254 What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas

Posted by: Skip at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (aC6Sd)

255 The Untouchables they ain't anymore.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 25, 2017 04:35 PM (BoMuO)

I disagree. They are just untouchable by the law, now, instead of the criminals, though, The Retards would be a better moniker for them these days.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (8gDQu)

256 I'm probably giving the FBI too much credit here, but maybe the hard drive isn't missing. Perhaps the info on it is useful to rolling up the baddies, and they don't want to tip their hand.

OK, back to reality...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (1/PYS)

257
nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (aWarA)

258 You can boot a laptop with no hard drive by using a Linux Live CD or thumb drive. I have done it, and it's not difficult at all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

And that is flushable. But anything accessed over hotel wifi should be trackable, right?

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (326rv)

259 I think the FBI needs to be scrapped altogether, or shut down and rebuilt from the ground up. They have lost the trust of the American people. The Untouchables they ain't anymore.

-
I agree. I see no other way they will ever be trusted.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (Nwg0u)

260 Bob has been temporarily shifted to another department.

He may (or may not) be back.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:32 PM (ny0bQ)

Sad when someone you know so well (and/or who knows you so well) so suddenly snaps like that.

Posted by: filbert at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (s5o+q)

261 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:34 PM (mbhDw)

What part of it was the writers idea didn't you understand?

I wasn't about to go through and remove all of them for a quick giggle.

Too much trouble.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (ny0bQ)

262 >>>Paddock ate the hard drive, digested it, then shot him self

Better than an Ensure shake!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Nostrildamus at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (p4Tjn)

263 Maybe Bill Clinton took the hard drive to pedo island. Let's ask Fushion GPS.

Posted by: dagny at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (wqVha)

264 Fucking cover up. Fucking crooked FBI. Makes me sick.
Posted by: Max Power
................
Uh huh.. with the help of LV Police department.. Nevada State police dept.. etc. etc..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 25, 2017 04:38 PM (so+oy)

265 Bob from NASA at 4:30

That was very good. I'm going to print that out and send it to my son. However, you did get this one wrong:

.. YOU HAVE TOO MANY SHOES.

Just thought you might want to correct that there. Thanks~

Posted by: grammie winger at October 25, 2017 04:38 PM (lwiT4)

266
Ace sock puppet looks to have been death with.

ALSO....

Anyone see this story? Newton sick-o shooter may have been a pedophile.

Interesting coinky dink.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:38 PM (mbhDw)

267 Paddock did not commit suicide. Check out these pics:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycow93s3

1. In the picture on the left, the blood pattern beneath/around his head indicates that he was laying down with his head on the floor when shot. There is no splatter whatsoever---just a pool of blood. If he was sitting or standing, would be a much different blood pattern.

2. In the picture on the right, you can see that he is lying on top of a rifle (!) I mean, first of all, why would he lie down to do the deed, and secondly, why would he lie down on top of an uncomfortable rifle just to blow his own head off. Sit in a chair like a "normal" person!

Definitely was killed by someone else. Probably after a struggle and he was knocked out first.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 25, 2017 04:38 PM (HiDrR)

268 Pssst. Corgis. Nood! Now git.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 25, 2017 04:38 PM (p+Wdc)

269 >>You're a fucking idiot ace

Someone apparently tried to follow Ace's instructions in the AoSHQ Do It Yourself Shelving Kit.

Posted by: garrett at October 25, 2017 04:39 PM (WSgle)

270
dealt, not death. But still...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2017 04:39 PM (mbhDw)

271 If someone else was in there and killed him, why not just take the whole computer?

Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands. at October 25, 2017 04:33 PM (mf5HN)

And if Paddock did it, why not throw out the whole computer?

Posted by: Methos at October 25, 2017 04:42 PM (XQvuQ)

272 IIRC, what they found was a charger for a mobile device that didn't match any of his known devices.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 25, 2017 04:09 PM (uiwCw)

They announced about two days later that they were mistaken and all chargers in the room had been matched to phones belonging to Paddock.

Posted by: Meremortal, no prosecutions, no peace! at October 25, 2017 04:42 PM (3myMJ)

273 So he removed the hard drive, ran outside, threw it in the Las Vegas River, ran back upstairs and shot himself in the back of the head.
Got it.

Posted by: wth at October 25, 2017 04:02 PM (HgMAr)

Needs a sound effect: thunk.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 25, 2017 04:43 PM (O848g)

274 If whoever is responsible wanted us to know the motive, he (they) could easily have emailed CNN, NBC, Fox, DailyCaller, etc. a minute before starting the attack. There would be no way to stop the info from getting out there.

So whoever is responsible did not want us to know the reason, and the missing drive is part of the attempt to obscure that (whether by the FBI, or some as yet unknown party). I doubt it'll be found. They couldn't even find Hillary's shoe by the bollard, correct?

Btw, regarding the ballistics notes written on the notepad, have they done any handwriting analysis on that yet?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 25, 2017 04:44 PM (/qEW2)

275 Could the 'missing' hard drive explain why he had no internet trail?

Maybe he always removed hard drives and used his computers as described by Primordial Ordered Pair up above.

Because he was a human trafficker, drug and gun runner, for examples.

Posted by: Meremortal, no prosecutions, no peace! at October 25, 2017 04:45 PM (3myMJ)

276 If someone else was in there and killed him, why not just take the whole computer?
Posted by: alexthechick - Your new AG. Now the DOJ has grry hands.

Traceability. Especially if a lowjack system was in place. Or hell, turn it on someplace and it can be located just by MAC.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Warlord in Waiting of the Wastes at October 25, 2017 04:45 PM (AM1GF)

277 No hard drive? Maybe he,was using A: and B: and booting from a floppy.

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2017 04:46 PM (Sfs6o)

278 1. In the picture on the left, the blood pattern beneath/around his head indicates that he was laying down with his head on the floor when shot. There is no splatter whatsoever---just a pool of blood. If he was sitting or standing, would be a much different blood pattern.

2. In the picture on the right, you can see that he is lying on top of a rifle (!) I mean, first of all, why would he lie down to do the deed, and secondly, why would he lie down on top of an uncomfortable rifle just to blow his own head off. Sit in a chair like a "normal" person!

Picture on the left is his head bleeding out all over the floor. He was standing up when he shot himself. Splatter is on the ceiling or whereever, but he didn't shoot himself lying on the floor.

Picture on the right the rifle is on him, not the other way around, like he was standing when he shot himself and it landed on him.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 04:49 PM (gIRsn)

279 his brother is apparently a pedo... busted yesterday, here in The Valley

ocregister.com/2017/10/25/brother-of-las-vegas-shooter-taken-
into-custody-for-child-porn-in-north-hollywood-according-to-media-reports/

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 25, 2017 04:49 PM (zpha2)

280 Maybe Bill Clinton took the hard drive to pedo island. Let's ask Fushion GPS.
Posted by: dagny at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (wqVha)
---
We pre-refuse to answer that question on the grounds that we may incriminate ourselves.

Posted by: Fusion GPS at October 25, 2017 04:50 PM (2mC6G)

281 This story keeps getting weirder. I doubt we will ever be told the truth about what happened.

Posted by: Bob at October 25, 2017 04:50 PM (fVGlW)

282 14
Would you believe a dissolving hard drive?

Posted by: FBI agent Maxwell Smart at October 25, 2017 03:56 PM (7ZVPa)

When this is the most credible comment in over 2 weeks to come from this disaster, you know it was all fixed from the start.We need national concealed carry reciprocity now! The government is hopelessly corrupt. You cannot count on government. Or the mainstream press.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 25, 2017 04:51 PM (UsCnO)

283 Maybe Hillary! filled the hard drive with yoga routines.

Posted by: Weasel at October 25, 2017 04:51 PM (Sfs6o)

284 The whole media/democrat alliance is one big turd...there is no clean end.

Posted by: tentotwo at October 25, 2017 04:52 PM (yhf6w)

285 190 I continue to propose that Paddock should be referred to as deep state operative Steven Paddock until some reliable source proves otherwise.
Posted by: Methos at October 25, 2017 04:25 PM (XQvuQ)

Agreed. We should pull some 4chan nonsense and refer to him as FBI Special Agent Paddock.

Posted by: Not J. Edgar Hoover at October 25, 2017 04:54 PM (FVLz6)

286 >>> Even the dead can be embarrassed by their browsing history. Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 03:52 PM (gIRsn)

Buzzion can tell us if this is true...

Posted by: LizLem at October 25, 2017 04:54 PM (hvf9s)

287 Picture on the right the rifle is on him, not the other way around, like he was standing when he shot himself and it landed on him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 04:49 PM

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Yes, there is one rifle on him, but there is also another under him. His left hand (with black glove) is resting on the butt of the rifle, and the rest of it is underneath him.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 25, 2017 04:55 PM (HiDrR)

288 Even the dead can be embarrassed by their browsing history. Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 03:52 PM (gIRsn)
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And you're talking about the scruples of a guy who doesn't mind injuring 500+, who supposedly cared what people would think of him.

Posted by: Axeman at October 25, 2017 04:58 PM (2mC6G)

289 But again -- why not just drop the whole laptop out the window, then? Why just the hard drive?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 25, 2017 04:19 PM (wmaTe)

Well, laptop hard drives are thin and flat, You could scale it out the window like a little Frisbee, and it might land in the street, and be destroyed by being run over countless times by traffic.

If he even had a hard drive, that is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 25, 2017 04:58 PM (O848g)

290 "Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive."

Or maybe the "sources" are lying about the missing drive. Could be the FBI/LE does indeed have the drive and are disseminating lies outside the agency. They're allowed to do that as long as it's not in Court. And even then they still might try.

I think it more likely that FBI/LE removed data storage devices ASAP, much more so than Paddock (or accomplice). Paddock had planned an extensive mass homicide event. He knew his fate. Why would he care if anyone found his drive and its contents? He knew he'd be killed. There's no way he was going to escape any dragnet. He was not that stupid.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 25, 2017 04:58 PM (H8S+R)

291 1. In the picture on the left, the blood pattern beneath/around his head indicates that he was laying down with his head on the floor when shot. There is no splatter whatsoever---just a pool of blood. If he was sitting or standing, would be a much different blood pattern.

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Geez... NCIS should hire you..

Duh.. If he was standing up, the blood splatter would go UP.. then he fell and blood would only pool on the floor with no splatter.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 25, 2017 04:59 PM (so+oy)

292 284
The whole media/democrat alliance is one big turd...there is no clean end.

Posted by: tentotwo at October 25, 2017 04:52 PM (yhf6w)

sorry to disagree, but there CAN be a clean end.
it does require a Guillotine, however.the cut is very, very clean. until it gets dull from overuse.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 25, 2017 05:01 PM (UsCnO)

293 I'm sure the conspiracy theorists will just use this as an excuse to churn out more fodder, but there are more than a few reasonable explanations for this.

He could have decided to get rid of the evidence beforehand. He could have run a computer without a hard drive (it's only storage, not a necessary component). The media could be getting details wrong (unheard of, I know).

Posted by: Sjg at October 25, 2017 05:02 PM (gDSJf)

294 Apples and bananas from the mango tree - We are CNN

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 25, 2017 05:04 PM (M+Lyo)

295 Duh.. If he was standing up, the blood splatter would go UP.. then he fell and blood would only pool on the floor with no splatter.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 25, 2017 04:59 PM
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Then I should think there would be at least some splatter where he went splat, no?

Posted by: IrishEi at October 25, 2017 05:05 PM (HiDrR)

296 And the brother gets charged with child porn. It's a little too on-the-nose, no? In every movie, TV show, or novel where the Deep State wants to bury someone, they always arrange for them to be charged with child porn.

Posted by: reluctant almost conspiracy theorist at October 25, 2017 05:11 PM (pYQR/)

297 Then I should think there would be at least some splatter where he went splat, no?
Posted by: IrishEi at October 25, 2017 05:05 PM (HiDrR)

No, it would all travel along vectors related the exit wound.

Posted by: Sjg at October 25, 2017 05:12 PM (gDSJf)

298 The Untouchables they ain't anymore.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 25, 2017 04:35 PM (BoMuO)

Eliot Ness and the Untouchables were Treasury agents, were they not?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 25, 2017 05:14 PM (O848g)

299 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 25, 2017 04:35 PM (O848g)

Why did you have a laptop with no hard drive?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 25, 2017 04:37 PM (hjrto)

Because a buddy gave me a couple of old IBM Thinkpads, and the HD on one was gerfukt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 25, 2017 05:16 PM (O848g)

300 Irish Ei, I have taunted you in the new thread.

*throws down tauntlet*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 25, 2017 05:16 PM (gIRsn)

301 I forget which new source, but someone laid out that these mass killer types do this a lot. This meaning destroy electronic evidence trails.

Even that total whack job lanza destroyed his hard drive before he went to the school.

Posted by: ghbucky at October 25, 2017 05:18 PM (D2q91)

302 'there are other possibilities.'

Yes, including the possibility that the FBI took the hard drive upon accessing the room, and told the Mandalay Bay under threat of prosection to destroy all video and dummy up.

Posted by: phineas gage at October 25, 2017 05:18 PM (ALDN3)

303 'prosecution'

Ha, who knows, maybe they also threatened prosection as well....

Posted by: phineas gage at October 25, 2017 05:19 PM (ALDN3)

304 WTF

Posted by: Gonzotx at October 25, 2017 05:23 PM (wsW2n)

305 Posted by: phineas gage at October 25, 2017 05:18 PM (ALDN3)

Clearly the most parsimonious explanation. Dozens of FBI and local law enforcement, plus the entire IT staff and management of the casino just winked at each other and the conspiracy was officially ON.

Posted by: Sjg at October 25, 2017 05:23 PM (gDSJf)

306 Nothing parsimonious about any of this that I can see.

The post was not entirely serious, but where exactly does Occam's Razor fall here?

Posted by: phineas gage at October 25, 2017 05:27 PM (ALDN3)

307 Posted by: phineas gage at October 25, 2017 05:27 PM (ALDN3)

Possibly because you're speculating on an unfinished investigation based on tidbits released through reporters who couldn't handle their classes that required actual attention to detail and ended up in J-school.

Narratives of fantastic conspiracies should wait for reasonable explanations to be thoroughly examined and discarded. But of course this never occurs after major media events, so we end up with grassy knolls, "empty" planes, "hands up" garbage instead.

Posted by: Sjg at October 25, 2017 05:43 PM (gDSJf)

308 Posted by: IrishEi at October 25, 2017 04:38 PM (HiDrR)

Stop right there, one of your assumptions is wrong. paddock was not shot in the head. His brain and brain case were intact. The blood you see is what poured out of his face after he was shot in the chest.

Posted by: SarahW at October 25, 2017 06:04 PM (Sp1NT)

309 nood

Posted by: tu3031 at October 25, 2017 06:17 PM (O5Q3r)

310 Fair enough. But the facts that we now know about recent FBI activity, both in the past and current administration, do not engender confidence. Nor does anything about this case make much sense at all.

I'm far from the only one to make that observation.

Posted by: phineas gage at October 25, 2017 06:58 PM (ALDN3)

311 294
Apples and bananas from the mango tree - We are CNN

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 25, 2017 05:04 PM (M+Lyo)

LGBTQ leaders agree.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 25, 2017 07:26 PM (UsCnO)

312 If you leave the room with a laptop you are on camera(s) carrying a laptop.
Leave the room with HD in yer pocket, hands empty, possibly whistling a happy tune, different.
Or, throw a drive off the balcony as opposed to a laptop...
Maybe somebody "found" the laptop and stole the concealable, $1K+ 4TB SSD, left the rest.
Some drives slip right out the side, no tools required.

Posted by: Burger Chef at October 25, 2017 07:58 PM (RuIsu)

313 If only this casino had cameras and video recording equipment on site. We would know who came and went.

Posted by: Guido911 at October 25, 2017 09:52 PM (T2sj9)

314 " Given that he was a cheap bastard " Well, he wasn't cheap in his selection of rifles. He liked DDRs, not Del-Tons.

Gun-runner story doesn't work for me. Where is the margin in gun-running? The world is glutted with guns and ammo right now. Anybody anywhere can get what they want, way below MSRP.

"Video poker winner" story doesn't work either, because there is no such thing as a multiyear video poker winning streak. The braindead newsmedia really showed their ass reporting that story without skepticism.

He was pretty obviously a money launderer. That's important to the case because it means he was working for/with somebody. Find that somebody and sweat him. I am aching to find out what really happened here.

Posted by: gp at October 26, 2017 01:33 AM (mk9aG)

315
"without a HD it was a brick, completely useless. that makes no sense."

That's not true in the least.

Modern computers can be booted from USB thumb drives. There a couple of approaches - unpack an ISO file to a bootable thumb drive using a tool like Rufus, or using a multiboot tool like easy2boot where you can simply drop ISO images onto the stick and then boot from them.

Some of those images can be run in a "live mode" were they get loaded into a ramdisk in memory and the thumb drive can be removed without causing problems.

One of the curious things I heard this morning is a claim that a data destroying program had been run. If the HDD is missing, and the laptop had been powered off there is no way to know that. So...was the laptop discovered in a powered up state with the software (bleachbit? darik's boot & nuke??) running?

But as pointed out, why not dispose of the laptop entirely? was it streaming video? was it under remote control? and if so, why not just power it down remotely?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 26, 2017 09:39 AM (1hM1d)

316
"But anything accessed over hotel wifi should be trackable, right?"

Maybe. It could be a bit tricky if there were a lot of people on the same access point, that could be a lot of traffic. If it was a wired connection, that would be easier.

And it also depends on how much metadata Mandalay Bay collects. But even then, MAC addresses can be spoofed, even under windows. MAC = Media Access Control, which is assigned by the manufacturer of the networking hardware. This is how an access point know which packets goes to you, and which packets go to other people.

This is presuming that he was using MBay's network. It is possible he had a 4G hotspot

Then there's the possibility that he was using a VPN to make an encrypted connection to a remote host in a foreign country, and then making the connection to the final destination. Good luck serving a search warrant or subpoena on a VPN provider in Russia or China.

There are other, less conventional ways to do similar things in a very untraceable manner, if you have access to compromised machines. And only a little bit of tech support is required.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 26, 2017 10:12 AM (1hM1d)

317 I heard he had an escape plan that didn't work out, but I've heard a bunch of conspiracy theories, too. Who knows what happened? Probably won't have any real idea until the twelfth of never. And the Kennedy assassination papers are being released, which has the conspiracy nuts salivating. Even my brother-in-law!

Posted by: BJ54 at October 26, 2017 11:51 AM (Bed/U)

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