Matt Damon and George Clooney: Goodness Us, We Never Heard a Blessed Thing About Weinstein's Misbehavior (Except for the Things We Did Hear About)

They're out promoting a film Damon stars in and Clooney directed. Both men's careers were boosted by Harvey Weinstein. Both are saying they didn't know anything about his reputation of rape and assault and creeping, admitting only to knowing of vague "womanizing."

The trouble with that claim is, as John Sexton notes, Damon is also admitting to knowing more than that -- but he gets very, very vague about it.

"I knew the story about Gwyneth from Ben because he was with her after Brad [Pitt], so I knew that story," Damon said Monday on ABC News. "I never talked to Gwyneth about it, Ben told me. But I knew that they had come to whatever, you know, agreement or understanding that they had come to, she had handled it. She was, you know, the first lady of Miramax. And he treated her incredibly respectfully."

Rose McGowan "came to an understanding" with Weinstein, and "handied it." That doesn't mean the complained of behavior didn't happen. And not even Matt Damon's too stupid to think it means that.

John Sexton points out something very important: Even if Matt Damon believed that Gwenyth Paltrow had just "handled it" with Weinstein, why did he undertake to help spike a story about Harvey Weinstein's sexual misbehavior with another woman knowing that -- whether "handled" or not -- it was mostly likely true?

Two weeks ago, former New York Times reporter Sharon Waxman (now at The Wrap) wrote that Damon helped get her 2004 exposé on Weinstein scrubbed. Waxman got calls from Damon and Russell Crowe personally to tube a story that tied Fabrizio Lombardo, then heading Miramax’s Italian unit, to Weinstein’s sexual appetite and about a payoff to a woman who had accused Weinstein of non-consensual sexual behavior. Damon claimed he was just asked to talk about Lombardo’s work for Miramax, not anything to do with Weinstein.
However, he already knew about Weinstein’s sexual harassment of Paltrow by this time. She married Coldplay frontman Chris Martin in 2003, having ended the relationship with Affleck in 2000. If Waxman was writing about Weinstein in 2004, then Damon had an important piece of information -- or at least knew enough to refrain from running interference on a sex scandal at Miramax.

I can't steal everything from Sexton so read about James Toback, now accused by 38 women of First Degree Creepstering, including Weinstein-like rubbing and ejaculating on nonconsenting women, and James Gunn's attempts to warn everyone he knew about him.

It's another filthy-grubby story proving again that while Washington is Hollywood for ugly people, Hollywood is also Hollywood for ugly people.

Sexton links a particularly distressing account from an actress named Sari Kamin. Read that, if you can stomach it.

It gets worse as it goes on. Let me know at which point you tapped out.

Posted by: Ace at 07:38 PM

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Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 07:39 PM (RhWew)

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Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2017 07:39 PM (Sfs6o)

3 Top 10

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2017 07:39 PM (89T5c)

4 But I knew that they had come to whatever, you know, agreement or understanding that they had come to, she had handled it.

++++

She handled it. I handled it. That plant handled it. There was a lot of handling it.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 23, 2017 07:40 PM (FUu/Z)

5 No tapping out. I wanna see the 100 Megaton shit bomb Corey Feldman might launch. If that happens, it will be glorious.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2017 07:42 PM (89T5c)

6 The "casting couch" is where a gatekeeper can make demands on someone who desires to pass through the gate and get a chance at wealth and celebrity. In the case of Weinstein the demands were kinky and sexual.

Others no doubt also make sexual demands the price of getting past the gate and into employment which can lead to wealth and power. This type of "casting couch" demand is now being exposed for the tawdry demands of the powerful gatekeeper on the less powerful.

But there is another "casting couch" where the demands are not sexual. They are political. Get your mind right or you don't get past this gate. Even major stars have to toe the line here. Especially if your stardom is fading. Spread-eagle yourself on this couch and your prospects brighten.

Yeah, I'm looking at you both Matt and George. You both spread wide for the Left's long hard one.

Posted by: geoffb at October 23, 2017 07:43 PM (zOpu5)

7 Remember when covering up a felony made a person an accessory after the fact?

Posted by: FireHorse at October 23, 2017 07:43 PM (zkGZ8)

8 5 No tapping out. I wanna see the 100 Megaton shit bomb Corey Feldman might launch. If that happens, it will be glorious.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2017 07:42 PM (89T5c)

Someone at PJ Media had a post about it and that if indeed it is exposed as Pervey Weinstein was, it means the end of Hollywood as we know it now.

Inshala.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2017 07:44 PM (mbhDw)

9 6 Yeah, I'm looking at you both Matt and George. You both spread wide for the Left's long hard one.
Posted by: geoffb at October 23, 2017 07:43 PM (zOpu5)

No, they hold the specula. Matt Damon's godfather was Howard Zinn and his mother is full-fledged Marxist.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2017 07:45 PM (mbhDw)

10 Matt Damon and George Cloony in 69. Not not believable.

Posted by: freaked at October 23, 2017 07:45 PM (UdKB7)

11 I tapped out just before clicking on the link, I don't need to eat any sh1t before deciding I've had enough.

Posted by: enkidu at October 23, 2017 07:46 PM (8PhsX)

12 Harvey Matt Clooney treats houseplants like a ladyboy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2017 07:46 PM (nUkMr)

13 But it wasn't, you know, rape-rape.

Says the only woman that pervert probably didn't come onto. For obvious reasons.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 07:46 PM (7UW64)

14 Someone at PJ Media had a post about it and that if indeed it is exposed as Pervey Weinstein was, it means the end of Hollywood as we know it.

Would love to see a Cory Feldman nuke.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 23, 2017 07:46 PM (GWm7j)

15 >>Rose McGowan "came to an understanding" with Weinstein, and "handied it."

Handied? Paging Dr. Freud.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 23, 2017 07:47 PM (/tuJf)

16 South park needs to deal with Clooney and damon and this.

Posted by: Simplemind at October 23, 2017 07:47 PM (ZuGkg)

17 Hollywood is also Hollywood for ~~ugly people~~ freaks.

Posted by: golfman at October 23, 2017 07:48 PM (48QDY)

18 These are grotesque people.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 23, 2017 07:48 PM (60v4h)

19 I think that's supposed to read "Rose McGowan handled it".

And...eww.

Posted by: Axeman at October 23, 2017 07:48 PM (2mC6G)

20 >>Rose McGowan "came to an understanding" with Weinstein, and "handied it."

Handied? Paging Dr. Freud.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 23, 2017 07:47 PM (/tuJf)
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Hankied it?

Posted by: Axeman at October 23, 2017 07:49 PM (2mC6G)

21 >>Hankied it?

Ficused it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 23, 2017 07:50 PM (/tuJf)

22 Literal animals have more rights and protections than children in Hollywood and DC.

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 07:50 PM (s7y11)

23 There is no Honor amongst thieves and scoundrels.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2017 07:50 PM (5y11N)

24 Corey Feldman was arrested over the weekend for marijuana possession. My first thought was that this arrest was a warning for him not to talk.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at October 23, 2017 07:51 PM (N3JsI)

25 The SEIU executive in charge of Fight for 15 just resigned amid sexual harrssment charges.

The anti gamer gate website NeoGAF is in full self destruct after their owner was just accused of sexual assault.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 23, 2017 07:51 PM (z/Ubi)

26 Hollywood can't eat each other fast enough.

To Hell with 'em all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (fiGNd)

27 When are we going to talk about what happened to the plants??!!

Posted by: Ficus at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (2mC6G)

28 Corey Feldman was arrested over the weekend for marijuana possession. My first thought was that this arrest was a warning for him not to talk.

Almost certainly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (60v4h)

29 Good for James Gunn.

But, because I'm feeling grumpy about how my Vegas trip is ending, I gotta say I'm not happy about the death of 'innocent until proven guilty'. And I'm not sure hitting on someone should be a crime.

Quid pro quo for a movie gig is one thing.

Haven't been online much so don't know if this guy was using physical cohesion or 'watering the ficus' on these women or what.

I know, it's Hollywood and they're all bad guys and we should all be cheering their deaths. And I am.

I just sorta wish there was a trial and a conviction before the burning. Don't mind me, gonna go get a steak.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (ZvbwW)

30 Harvey probably has pics of his 3 way with Matt and George.

Posted by: freaked at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (UdKB7)

31 It sure is fun watching the Progressive Movement self-destruct. It's not pretty and I didn't expect it to be, but it's a gigantic national boil that's been needing a squeezing with a pair of pliers for decades.

It should hurt. Just like stupidity should be painful.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (tRaq7)

32 So.... does this mean the end for ace's movie reviews?

Did watch Taking Chance per Gen Kelly's advice. I think I am extremely allergic to that movie. Dust was up or something.

Posted by: golfman at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (48QDY)

33 It's because of people like Weinstein you'll get The Thing and other ambulatory, meat-eating plantlife.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (nBr1j)

34
This is all a conspiracy by Hollywood lesbians to get back at the man. Where are the stories of forced muff diving to get a part? Exactly!

Posted by: Equal crime at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (/zwDg)

35 I would bet Damon likes a good corn holing before every act.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (mcI77)

36 I just don't get the pulling it out and jerking off on random objects and/or people. It's gotta be a fetish or something, like peering in windows.

Supposedly Louis C.K. has the same problem/fetish.

Maybe it's a class thing. Someone with a lot of wealth can get away with this at least for awhile. Anyone down the totem pole is going to be immediately jailed for it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (4ErVI)

37 So much phrasing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (rb1zT)

38 Ace, I'm already tapped out on this stuff, and that's just from reading about what we knew so far. I can't bring myself to click on those links.

I hope all these pervs get put away for a long, long time. I don't know how realistic I am to hope for that, though.

Posted by: bluebell at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (UoSKV)

39 Hollywood can't eat each other fast enough.

To Hell with 'em all.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (fiGNd)/i]

If there's actual cannibalism involved, sounds like a primo PPV opportunity!

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (s5o+q)

40 You know good and well the mainstream media is treating all of these people with kid gloves because they are so important to the Democrat Party and the Culture Wars.

The fact they routinely tried to scuttle the truth getting out should be career enders, but they'll pretend it as just a bad apple or two. And then want to talk about the real monsters, like people who want boys and girls bathrooms.

Posted by: Maritime at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (G/kZc)

41 No italics? No barrel?

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (s5o+q)

42 Whew. Pixy still loves me and, like beer, wants me to be happy.

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (s5o+q)

43 I just sorta wish there was a trial and a conviction before the burning. Don't mind me, gonna go get a steak.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (ZvbwW)

For Hollywood ?

No. Fuck that.

I'll play fair when they play fair. Being The Better Man is a losing proposition.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (fiGNd)

44 I knew a guy in high school who yanked it in the greeting card section of a department store.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (nBr1j)

45 I'll bet she did give "it" a handy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (wmaTe)

46 Harvey probably has pics of his 3 way with Matt and George.
Posted by: freaked at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (UdKB7

Don't forget me!!!

Posted by: Ben at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (48QDY)

47 It must suck to be a Chinese entertainment investor right about now.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (mcI77)

48 Dammit. Willowed myself. Stupid.

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (FLWDV)

49 "24 Corey Feldman was arrested over the weekend for marijuana possession. My first thought was that this arrest was a warning for him not to talk.
Posted by: never enough caffeine"

Weird. That was my first thought, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (8/cWV)

50 Mark Andrew Edwards,

Read up on Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle. He was acquitted three times, yet his career was over. And it lead to studios taking the time to hush up any hint of scandal. Hollywood seems to have a short memory.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (JKNZq)

51 We should continue to let Hollywood be the moral arbiters of the country and put that insightful Imam from earlier today in charge of NASA.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (RHDU/)

52 Matt Damon?

Posted by: MATT DAMON at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (/qEW2)

53 It's a good time to invest in Bollywood.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (nBr1j)

54 34
This is all a conspiracy by Hollywood lesbians to get back at the man. Where are the stories of forced muff diving to get a part? Exactly!

Posted by: Equal crime at October 23, 2017 07:53 PM (/zwDg)

Maybe you're joking, but I think on some level it's true. Not a bunch of Rosa Kleb's sitting in an underground layer plotting the take over, but I bet the end result of this whole situation will be to stack the upper levels of Hollywood with lefty women.

Which is great because NO ONE is going to watch the pile of shit they produce. It'll be worse than the crap they're pumping out now.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (4ErVI)

55 40 You know good and well the mainstream media is treating all of these people with kid gloves because they are so important to the Democrat Party and the Culture Wars.

The fact they routinely tried to scuttle the truth getting out should be career enders, but they'll pretend it as just a bad apple or two. And then want to talk about the real monsters, like people who want boys and girls bathrooms.
Posted by: Maritime at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (G/kZc)

The 3 most important institutions for advancing the left agenda are:
* Media
* Academia
and
* Pop Culture (typified by Hollywood).

So yeah, they'll protect Hollywood.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (wmaTe)

56 The entertainment business is filled with predator sociopaths. The actors and actresses know it and have dealt with it to advance their careers. Because they are all a lot of clinical narcissists.
Their own self-love precludes them from making a critical judgement about right and wrong regarding the people that open the doors to their careers.

Clooney and Damon are both asses. They know ALL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED surrounding Weinstein and others just like him.
They will never squeal out, because their careers would dry up, or they just might get killed.
There are a lot of rich and powerful people in Hollywood that are just awful people.
No wonder they all loved Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (S6Pax)

57
spread the fire
Stone the salt
scatter the bones

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 23, 2017 07:56 PM (m9X4Y)

58 I'm a pretty darned cynical guy, but it's hard . . . real hard . . . to be cynical *enough* nowadays.

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 07:56 PM (s5o+q)

59 44 I knew a guy in high school who yanked it in the greeting card section of a department store.
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (nBr1j)

And there is probably a internet forum for that particular schtick. Heck, there is probably a subreddit for people who get sexual urges for Hummel figurines.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 23, 2017 07:56 PM (rb1zT)

60 My 'Boo 2: A Madea Halloween' will crush Clooney's 'Suburbicon.' Shove your white privilege!

Posted by: Tyler Perry at October 23, 2017 07:56 PM (L/rPv)

61 spread the fire
Stone the salt
scatter the bones

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 23, 2017 07:56 PM (m9X4Y)

You should blog ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 07:56 PM (fiGNd)

62 Of course, in the Left's eyes, once they throw somebody under the bus, they've already declared them "NOT OF THE BODY!", so it doesn't count to them.

And we're supposed to just shut up and accept it...

Posted by: Hikaru at October 23, 2017 07:57 PM (yXU4O)

63 I'll pass on reading about depraved scum.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 07:57 PM (ny0bQ)

64
Toback then told me he saw me doing some xeroxing and felt connected to me and that was how he knew he would like to cast me in a movie because he only cast women in his movies that he saw and then felt instantly connected to.

I read it all. Honestly, is the eventual promised reward worth the degradation and self-loathing these creeps put you through?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 23, 2017 07:57 PM (7v00c)

65 49 "24 Corey Feldman was arrested over the weekend for marijuana possession. My first thought was that this arrest was a warning for him not to talk.
Posted by: never enough caffeine"

Weird. That was my first thought, too.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (8/cWV)

If he was picked up in LA, I'd agree 100%. But I think he was arrested in Louisiana or somewhere like that where possession of weed is still, apparently, illegal; and where there are close to zero ties betwixt the police and Hollywood.

So I think just a coincidence. Frankly, we probably never would have heard about it if his name wasn't already in the news.

As an aside -- I thought he claimed to be clean and sober since the other Corey died? Or does he just mean "not shooting heroin and snorting coke anymore?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 23, 2017 07:57 PM (wmaTe)

66 I have been hearing this Corey Feldman stuff for years. Frankly, I am not sure why he is keeping quiet about it. The reasons I keep hearing sound like excuses to me.

Stop hinting at it and spill the truth. Keeping quiet only enables this person to continue the victimization.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 23, 2017 07:58 PM (m9Yt9)

67 Yeah, we knew. But if we said anything, who would let us make these shitty movies that nobody goes to see?

Posted by: Matt and George at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (O5Q3r)

68 I can't bring myself to click on those links.

Same here. Being old as I am, this is not a subject that I haven't ever heard about before many times.

Most times, the headline tells me all I need to know without clicking. And like the CNN apple link below, I refuse to give them The Click, since that seemingly innocent act adds to their revenue in small way.

Not gonna feed the beast if I can at all help it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (tRaq7)

69 Just wait until the groupies start spilling the beans on the bouncers and janitors they had to blow to get backstage ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (8gDQu)

70 Perverts will go to the place where they can engage their perversion. Child molesters become school teachers. Men who are into power get it and then abuse it. Homosexual freaks invaded the Catholic priesthood to get access to altar boys.

This is not news, but what IS news is that so many of those who would claim to defend the honor of women will fawn over these bastards because of their fame.

If you want to rape starlets, you become a movie producer. You hold the keys, and nobody can say no, right?

At every turn, you find creeps and perverts, and somehow we are supposed to be surprised by this. Huh.

Maybe, just maybe, if we returned to the code of the West where a rapist was strung up by his balls, some of this filth would reconsider their actions before causing this sort of havoc.

Rape is worse than murder.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (7UW64)

71 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (KCxzN)

72 "I just sorta wish there was a trial and a conviction before the burning. "

Well, I think we all feel that way, really.

Who was it who said "they're not gonna like their new rules once they get turned around" or words to that effect ?

"The aggressor sets the ROE", still true after all these millennia.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (8/cWV)

73 On Feldman. He said that some guys on the bus had medical MJ--legal in California, not LA. And that he was implicated because he owns the bus. According to him, he didn't spend any time in the klink.

Posted by: Axeman at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (2mC6G)

74 As an aside -- I thought he claimed to be clean and sober since the other Corey died? Or does he just mean "not shooting heroin and snorting coke anymore?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

A limited, modified hangout.

These are sad, damaged people.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (S6Pax)

75 66 I have been hearing this Corey Feldman stuff for years. Frankly, I am not sure why he is keeping quiet about it. The reasons I keep hearing sound like excuses to me.

Stop hinting at it and spill the truth. Keeping quiet only enables this person to continue the victimization.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 23, 2017 07:58 PM (m9Yt9)

Statute of Limitations for criminal charges has passed.

But libel / slander statute of limitations wouldn't start running until he said something.

So, he'd be in a bind -- without a criminal conviction (which is impossible at this point), he's going to face an uphill battle proving the allegations are true when whoever he accuses has millions of dollars to throw at lawyers.

So, likely, he'd end up bankrupt and still losing the case against him.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (wmaTe)

76 70 Perverts will go to the place where they can engage their perversion. Child molesters become school teachers. Men who are into power get it and then abuse it. Homosexual freaks invaded the Catholic priesthood to get access to altar boys.

Was Harvey Weinstein's first job in a greenhouse?

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (nBr1j)

77 The other thing that pisses me off about this narrative is people like Gwyneth Paltrow were EXTREMELY powerful people. Her parents were both established in Hollywood (father a producer, mother an actress) and even her godfather was Steven Spielberg. Had she said something, Weinstein would have probably been nuked back in the 90's.

It once again goes back to the fact that these women were willing to do ANYTHING to just keep and expand their star power, even if it meant a predator got to keep feeding.

All of these people like Damon, Paltrow, Clooney, Affleck etc knew and continued to work with Weinstein, but he was someone else's problem.

Also, isn't it a little ironic that almost all of the really outspoken liberals in Hollywood are tight with Weinstein?

Posted by: Maritime at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (G/kZc)

78 But,but,but....TRUMP!!!

Posted by: Bosk at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (fjMEv)

79 I just sorta wish there was a trial and a conviction before the burning. Don't mind me, gonna go get a steak.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 23, 2017 07:52 PM (ZvbwW)
---
But that would make for less burning.

Posted by: Libs at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (2mC6G)

80 It's an apple.

Posted by: CNN at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (6ZsjP)

81 1- SHUT UP! Stop talking about this stuff!

2- Nothing happened. Those women are lying.

3- We don't know nuthin' about what those women are talking about.

4- We maybe knew something happened.

5- We knew something was definitely happening, but we didn't know about the bad stuff.

6- We knew bad stuff was definitely happening.

7- We are only where we are today because we had to do all the same things to Harvey.

8- SHUT UP! Stop talking about this stuff!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 23, 2017 08:01 PM (rjrh3)

82 Rape is worse than murder.
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (7UW64)

And not calling a spade a spade is worse than all.

Posted by: golfman at October 23, 2017 08:01 PM (48QDY)

83 So, basically, the so-called ladies of Hollywood who have been sneering at our backward, Bible believing, hill-billy morals as they participate in the degredation of society are appalled and shocked when the men they surround themselves with act like amoral jackasses, right?

Wish I could feel the least bit sorry for them but all children and ladies are less safe because of these wenches, so.... Meh.

Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night at October 23, 2017 08:01 PM (vfC/C)

84 Not gonna read it. You can't make me.

The whole think is just sick.

Posted by: Infidel at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (4ZKcy)

85 I'm still wondering when Cher will start her twatter emoji stream.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (mcI77)

86 I read it all. Honestly, is the eventual promised reward worth the degradation and self-loathing these creeps put you through?

Here's a thought--maybe 23 year old starlets are not quite mature enough to see through all the bullshit?
How about not blaming the victim for having bad judgement but blame the rapist for being a, you know, rapist?

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (7UW64)

87 That Sari Kamin is a good writer, vividly illustrating how nasty this guy was, and how his pickup strategy was (1) carry a DVD in his pocket with his name on it, and (2) tell chicks he had to jack off seven times a day.

A regular Paolo!

Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (aovsP)

88 So my longtime married buddy has his birthday today. I texted him just minutes ago with best wishes. A running joke is that the man's birthday is "Steak and a blowjob day", the equivalent to men as what Valantine's day is to women. He responded with a big checkmark emoji.

Then I read this article. Seems that every day is a birthday for Uncle Harvey, and Matt and George say *CHECK* *CHECK*.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (UsCnO)

89 "...accused Weinstein of non-consensual sexual behavior."...
*********************

This guy is a perv. He doesn't want to bed them he wants whack off in front of them. What is that Harvey? It's still your hand.

Posted by: gNewt at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (9fNWb)

90 think=thing. Ugh.

Posted by: Infidel at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (4ZKcy)

91 I am sooooooooooo sick of the Trump's call to the fallen SP's widow story.

And I watch FBN exclusively. Enough is enough.

Posted by: Tami at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (Enq6K)

92 puffy ash gets her big interview tomorrow.

i hope they give equal time to her pink hat tirade at the podium.

it's only fair.

Posted by: concrete girl at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (GgdGv)

93 73 On Feldman. He said that some guys on the bus had medical MJ--legal in California, not LA. And that he was implicated because he owns the bus. According to him, he didn't spend any time in the klink.
Posted by: Axeman at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (2mC6G)

Well, if whoever owned it 'fessed up, the cops most likely wouldn't have arrested the owner of the vehicle, so idk how much I believe that.

But, yeah, I'm sure it's just a violation or minor misdemeanor in LA to possess small amounts of weed. So, maybe some basic processing, a ticket, and a PR (or really low cash) bond.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 23, 2017 08:03 PM (wmaTe)

94 At every turn, you find creeps and perverts, and somehow we are supposed to be surprised by this. Huh.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (7UW64)

I'll tell what surprised me about the Weinstein revelations and the others ... that there are so many powerful guys out there who seem to just be into whacking off in public. That's really weird.

Starlet: "I'll blow you."

Producer: "Shut up and hold that pose while I jerk off into this shrubbery."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:03 PM (8gDQu)

95 Ryan and McConnell AWOL once again.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 23, 2017 08:04 PM (mcI77)

96 I'm still wondering when Cher will start her twatter emoji stream.
Posted by: Under Fire at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (mcI77)

NOW!!

Posted by: CHER WITH ALL CAPS at October 23, 2017 08:04 PM (48QDY)

97 Maybe this degraded environment in Hollywood is part of the reason reasonably sensible young women become raving leftist nitwits after a few a years in Hollywood.

I think I better go wash the dishes, the spruce outside my office window is leering at me.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:04 PM (nBr1j)

98 A regular Paolo!
Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (aovsP)

Say what you will about Paolo- but he does not have to coerce the ladies to jack off on their ferns.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 23, 2017 08:05 PM (rb1zT)

99 Tom Hanks was unavailable for comment on these serial cock-ups.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2017 08:06 PM (Kwhm/)

100 77 The other thing that pisses me off about this narrative is people like Gwyneth Paltrow were EXTREMELY powerful people. Her parents were both established in Hollywood (father a producer, mother an actress) and even her godfather was Steven Spielberg. Had she said something, Weinstein would have probably been nuked back in the 90's.

It once again goes back to the fact that these women were willing to do ANYTHING to just keep and expand their star power, even if it meant a predator got to keep feeding.

All of these people like Damon, Paltrow, Clooney, Affleck etc knew and continued to work with Weinstein, but he was someone else's problem.

Also, isn't it a little ironic that almost all of the really outspoken liberals in Hollywood are tight with Weinstein?
Posted by: Maritime at October 23, 2017 08:00 PM (G/kZc)

This. Times 1000.

The same goes for Asia Argento: her dad is a famous director and she had a 5 year relationship with Weinstein. Oh, and remember that petition all the Glitterati in the US and Europe signed on behalf of letting Polanski back in the US to be honored with an academy award? Yes, Ms. Argento signed it. No sympathy here ( nor in Italy: she was laughed out of Italy and had to retreat to Germany because people were making fun of her, saying her agreement was more like prostitution than abuse.) I loathe the smug Mr. Clooney and there is a LOT of gossip about his proclivities. May he be the next target of the self-destructing left.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 23, 2017 08:06 PM (oQQwD)

101 94 At every turn, you find creeps and perverts, and somehow we are supposed to be surprised by this. Huh.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (7UW64)

I'll tell what surprised me about the Weinstein revelations and the others ... that there are so many powerful guys out there who seem to just be into whacking off in public. That's really weird.

Starlet: "I'll blow you."

Producer: "Shut up and hold that pose while I jerk off into this shrubbery."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:03 PM (8gDQu)

Was Weinstein one of those knights who wanted a shrubbery from Monty Python and the Knights of the Holy Grail?

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (nBr1j)

102
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (7UW64)

You are imputing blame having been cast when that was not the case.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (7v00c)

103 A regular Paolo!
Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:02 PM (aovsP)

Say what you will about Paolo- but he does not have to coerce the ladies to jack off on their ferns.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 23, 2017 08:05 PM (rb1zT)

Like the honeybee, The Paulo spreads the precious pollen to all of the prettiest flowers, who open gladly to his approach!

Posted by: The Paulo at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (s5o+q)

104 I got busted in the mid '80's, in OC, for having a half joint in the ash tray. They didn't have a female cop to come search me (thank God, another story) so they wrote me a ticket with a court date. I went, plead guilty and paid the fine and court costs.

Posted by: Infidel at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (4ZKcy)

105
Speaking of math, can someone justify to me how "card counting" can be illegal?

Missouri and New Jersey outlawed card counting in their state's gambling joints., for example. I don't know about Nevada.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (7NbqS)

106 97 Maybe this degraded environment in Hollywood is part of the reason reasonably sensible young women become raving leftist nitwits after a few a years in Hollywood.

I think I better go wash the dishes, the spruce outside my office window is leering at me.
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:04 PM (nBr1j)

If this is how all their enlightened male fellow travelers on the left behave just imagine how awful this backwards Neanderthals of Jesusland must be!

Posted by: Buzzion at October 23, 2017 08:08 PM (z/Ubi)

107 The same goes for Asia Argento: her dad is a famous director and she had a 5 year relationship with Weinstein. Oh, and remember that petition all the Glitterati in the US and Europe signed on behalf of letting Polanski back in the US to be honored with an academy award? Yes, Ms. Argento signed it. No sympathy here ( nor in Italy: she was laughed out of Italy and had to retreat to Germany because people were making fun of her, saying her agreement was more like prostitution than abuse.)

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 23, 2017 08:06 PM (oQQwD)

But what she does for "work" is more like prostitution than acting, too. That goes for a lot of the A-list actresses.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:08 PM (8gDQu)

108 But the red states have all the >insert name<.

Posted by: golfman at October 23, 2017 08:08 PM (48QDY)

109 liars

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 23, 2017 08:08 PM (sqpGi)

110 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 23, 2017 07:57 PM (7v00c)

Remember as depraved as these guys are. They wouldn't get far with "normal" women.

These ladies are attention whores. That doesn't mean they deserve what happened but they are a special target because of that trait.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 08:09 PM (ny0bQ)

111
And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing??

Or do they judge the look of concentration on one's face?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:09 PM (7NbqS)

112 65 49 "24 Corey Feldman was arrested over the weekend for marijuana possession. My first thought was that this arrest was a warning for him not to talk.
Posted by: never enough caffeine"

Weird. That was my first thought, too.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (8/cWV)

If he was picked up in LA, I'd agree 100%. But I think he was arrested in Louisiana or somewhere like that where possession of weed is still, apparently, illegal; and where there are close to zero ties betwixt the police and Hollywood.

So I think just a coincidence. Frankly, we probably never would have heard about it if his name wasn't already in the news.

As an aside -- I thought he claimed to be clean and sober since the other Corey died? Or does he just mean "not shooting heroin and snorting coke anymore?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 23, 2017 07:57 PM (wmaTe)

++++

He was driving his RV and got pulled over for speeding. Had a suspended license, so was taken in. Vehicle was searched, pot found. He claims it was medical, not his, belonging to two of the passengers, They did not have their prescription on them. Fines issued and paid. He wasn't jailed.

It's a big nothing mostly brought about by extreme stupidity. Don't drive on a suspended license. If you do that, don't speed. If you must do that, don't have pot in your vehicle in a state where pot is illegal. And, if you absolutely must do all that, at least carry your prescription for the allegedly prescription marijuana.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 23, 2017 08:09 PM (pvjTE)

113 You are imputing blame having been cast when that was not the case.

If so, it is purely unintended.

However, it is difficult to demand that young women have the experience and wisdom to lead them away from offers such as those in this article. She thought this would advance her career. Instead, it just lead to assault and disgust. Now she knows better, but then? Not so much.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 08:09 PM (7UW64)

114 111
And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing??

Or do they judge the look of concentration on one's face?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:09 PM (7NbqS)

Taking your shoes and socks off might be a hint.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:10 PM (nBr1j)

115
And don't forget Jimmy Jizzy-pants had what has to be the best pick-up line I've ever heard. You'll want to write this one down:

"If you stare in my eyes and pinch my nipples, I'll come right in my pants!"

Seriously, all this guy wanted to do was dry hump 'em until he, well, right in his pants. No normal sex, just that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 08:10 PM (8O3HH)

116 Speaking of math, can someone justify to me how "card counting" can be illegal?

Missouri and New Jersey outlawed card counting in their state's gambling joints., for example. I don't know about Nevada.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (7NbqS)

That's not so bad. The law they have on deck is that you're not allowed to leave a casino up. You have to stay and play until everything you brought is gone and your markers have run out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:10 PM (8gDQu)

117 Speaking of math, can someone justify to me how "card counting" can be illegal?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (7NbqS)

Slowly. Surely. They're coming after the Horde.

We're the only smart ones left.

Posted by: golfman at October 23, 2017 08:11 PM (48QDY)

118 I'll play fair when they play fair. Being The Better Man is a losing proposition.

It's been a while since we've heard the "you're no better than they are if you get down on their level" bullshit from the left, but it's still there. That's nothing more than a pathetic, fake highbrowed attempt at some sort of intellectual surrender which falls upon my deaf ears.

If it comes down to it, I'll get down below my enemy's level and do whatever needs to be done to defeat him, regardless of the level of brutality it takes. After I've done that, I'll go home, take a nice long shower, have a good dinner and relish my victory if I'm able.

No one is going to guilt me into defeating myself by not fighting back.

No. One.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 23, 2017 08:11 PM (tRaq7)

119 94
At every turn, you find creeps and perverts, and somehow we are supposed to be surprised by this. Huh.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 07:59 PM (7UW64)

I'll tell what surprised me about the Weinstein revelations and the
others ... that there are so many powerful guys out there who seem to
just be into whacking off in public. That's really weird.

Starlet: "I'll blow you."

Producer: "Shut up and hold that pose while I jerk off into this shrubbery."

I thought making obscene amounts of money freed you from having to jerk off because the girl would notice your wallet.
Doesn't anything work any more?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 23, 2017 08:11 PM (UsCnO)

120
Like the honeybee, The Paulo spreads the precious pollen to all of the prettiest flowers, who open gladly to his approach!

--

No one is as poetic as the romantic.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 23, 2017 08:12 PM (m9X4Y)

121 As always ... I wonder ... How does Weinstein know how to pick the victims ?

I've been told here that the perps just "know". They "sense". But Weinstein didn't touch ONE girl with a redneck dad ?

I'm sure he had enough security to stop me at the gate. But no way in hell he had enough security to stop THAT MESS from making the news.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:12 PM (fiGNd)

122 So has Weinstein been banned from greenhouses and nurseries?

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:12 PM (nBr1j)

123 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (7NbqS)

It is considered cheating because most people find it difficult and don't bother. And it removes the "luck" factor from the games.

don't bitch at me about it. I'm just saying what they claim.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 08:13 PM (ny0bQ)

124 Harvey should embrace his new found fame.

It is deadly not to face these cowards even if he did what they say he did, even when they asked for it, and even when some of them probably liked it.

He needs to come clean, name everyone and laugh about it all the way to the bank and tell all the scum in Hollyweird to kiss his fat, hairy, pockmarked ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2017 08:13 PM (nUkMr)

125 One of my favorite movies is 1980's Fame, which follows a handful of teens through 4 years at NYC's High School of Performing Arts. Irene Cara played Coco, an aspiring singer/actress (she shot to actual fame on the strength of her performance & and her recording of the title tune).

During the "Senior Year" segment, a sleazy-looking guy runs into her at a coffee shop, and talks her into auditioning for his new film. She shows up at the audition, which is in a seedy apartment, with Sleazy Guy as the whole production crew. He pressures her into taking off her shirt & starts filming her as she weeps.

Who knew that director Alan Parker was firing a warning shot on film? I remember thinking, Yeah, but that's not happening in the REAL film world.
Well, I was a kid.

Posted by: Shopgirl at October 23, 2017 08:13 PM (ASGHc)

126 And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing??

Or do they judge the look of concentration on one's face?
Posted by: Soothsayer
------------

Dunno, probably winning. I do know that I have had a Blackjack dealer momentarily stop dealing and ask me, "Why would you make that bet?" It was an uncomfortable moment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:13 PM (9tO1t)

127 i don't like oreilly.....but damn it.....i stand with him......

Posted by: phoenixgirl...beat the dodgers at October 23, 2017 08:14 PM (0O7c5)

128 Hey pretty boys, Damon and Clooney: get your own schtick, oder?

Posted by: Sgt. Schulz at October 23, 2017 08:14 PM (YqDXo)

129 I thought making obscene amounts of money freed you from having to jerk off because the girl would notice your wallet.
Doesn't anything work any more?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 23, 2017 08:11 PM (UsCnO)

This reminds me of that guy who was married to one of the super-models (a real super-model, not one of the fakes) but she divorced him because he wasn't having sex with her but was just jerking off all day.

WTFFF?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:14 PM (8gDQu)

130 And yet, the left coast sneeringly looks down their collective noses at those of us in Jesusland who think sex belongs properly between a man and his wife, who are, in fact, man and woman.

Apparently, to be a good leftist, you have to include adultery and house plants or it isn't really sophisticated enough. And coercion, a little force, maybe a smack or two, or downright rape, if you are really savvy.

I thank God daily that He has found me and kept me.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 08:14 PM (7UW64)

131 114 111
And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing??

Or do they judge the look of concentration on one's face?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:09 PM (7NbqS)

#1 It is pretty hard to count cards in a 6-7 deck shute
#2 They will reshuffle before the shute has expired.
# 3 Don't play 21, It's a losers game.Play poker at a table, then it's like pari mutual betting at the track

Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (RhWew)

132 Wait until the music industry gets exposed.

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (s7y11)

133 So has Weinstein been banned from greenhouses and nurseries?
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:12 PM (nBr1j)

I don't know about nurseries, but arboretums, surely.

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (s5o+q)

134 Clooney might want to shut his trap! Our pilot friend says he is pretty much pig himself

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (mMeIQ)

135 8 5 No tapping out. I wanna see the 100 Megaton shit bomb Corey Feldman might launch. If that happens, it will be glorious.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 23, 2017 07:42 PM (89T5c)

Someone at PJ Media had a post about it and that if indeed it is exposed as Pervey Weinstein was, it means the end of Hollywood as we know it now.

Inshala.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2017 07:44 PM (mbhDw)

These are great days we're living, bros!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (YqDXo)

136 Here's what I want to know: who was behind the "Leo DiCaprio deserves an Oscar" meme? Who started that up?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (39g3+)

137 Bravo, Matt and George, for standing up and speaking truth to power! Good show!

Posted by: The Salon Hot 25 at October 23, 2017 08:16 PM (O5Q3r)

138 Wait until the music industry gets exposed.
Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (s7y11)

PHRASING!!!

For the love of all that is holy!!!!

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 08:16 PM (s5o+q)

139
I have had a Blackjack dealer momentarily stop dealing and ask me, "Why would you make that bet?"

That's Unusual.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:16 PM (7NbqS)

140
Here's the thing: Weinstein has tried to pass of his bad behavior as being a consequence of having lived in the 60s and 70s when standards were "different". I call BS, having come of age during the same period. Moral strictures were definitely loosened, but I am hard pressed myself to say that "the new normal" granted leeway to guys to be complete creeps with respect to interactions with women.

Harvey thinks it did. He gets no pass from me, for whatever that is worth.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 23, 2017 08:16 PM (7v00c)

141 Play single deck black jack... Cost a bit more though

Posted by: E.T. at October 23, 2017 08:16 PM (P1GJy)

142 I have an idea for a remake of Carrie, but the setting is a Hollywood studio, not a high school and Carrie is an abused starlet.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (nBr1j)

143 I have had a Blackjack dealer momentarily stop dealing and ask me, "Why would you make that bet?"

That's Unusual.
Posted by: Soothsayer
-----------

No kidding.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (9tO1t)

144 This will lead to laws being passed if men lie about themselves to get sex or promise something for sex and cannot deliver then it will be rape.

This will be the endgame for the feminists.

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (s7y11)

145 Fifty bucks Tom Hanks is a bit handsy as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (39g3+)

146 Here's what I want to know: who was behind the "Leo DiCaprio deserves an Oscar" meme? Who started that up?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (39g3+)

DiCrapio is as good an actor as any of them. If they're giving out Oscars there's no reason he shouldn't get one.

Personally, I've never seen him chewing the scenery. He does a decent job.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (8gDQu)

147
I've been told here that the perps just "know". They "sense". But Weinstein didn't touch ONE girl with a redneck dad ?

I'm sure he had enough security to stop me at the gate. But no way
in hell he had enough security to stop THAT MESS from making the news.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:12 PM (fiGNd)

It doesn't always require a dad. If someone were to touch my son, the toucher would soon find himself sans genitalia. Moms are meaner than hell when their kids are at stake.

Posted by: tcn in AK at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (7UW64)

148 Play poker at a table, then it's like pari mutual betting at the track
Posted by: riktheYFITB

If you don't know who the pigeon is at the table, it's uou

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (sWC1G)

149
136 Here's what I want to know: who was behind the "Leo DiCaprio deserves an Oscar" meme? Who started that up?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:15 PM (39g3+)

Rapey bear - he weren't settling only for some ficus...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 23, 2017 08:18 PM (7v00c)

150 I have an idea for a remake of Carrie, but the setting is a Hollywood studio, not a high school and Carrie is an abused starlet.
Posted by: Northerlurker
---------

Well, that's going to be messy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:18 PM (9tO1t)

151 Orchards. Guy ought to have a restraining order regarding orchards.

And maybe wineries. And farms and gardens. Just to be sure.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:18 PM (fiGNd)

152 Here's what I want to know: who was behind the "Leo DiCaprio deserves an Oscar" meme? Who started that up?

===

Don't look at me! He was terrible!

Posted by: The Bear at October 23, 2017 08:18 PM (QC/4S)

153 >> ving lived in the 60s and 70s when standards were "different". I call BS, having come of age during the same period.

-------------

That was some of Lisa Bloom's horseshit in the early days of the scandal. That was before we learned about the violent forcible rapes, not to mention sneaking in Angie Everhart's cabin and whacking off to her, and ordering Lauren Sivan to shut and stand there, while he whacked off in the ficus (and maybe a frying pan, according to the owner of the place).

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 08:19 PM (8O3HH)

154 145 Fifty bucks Tom Hanks is a bit handsy as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (39g3+)

Isn't he supposed to be one of the nicest people in Hollywood? I suppose that might mean he asks the girl to please take off your shirt.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:19 PM (nBr1j)

155 Im terrible black jack player...ive had dealers pause and ask to give you a second chance to reconsider your bet...especially if you are making a real bad bet ....happens alot

Posted by: E.T. at October 23, 2017 08:19 PM (P1GJy)

156 111
And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing??

Or do they judge the look of concentration on one's face?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:09 PM (7NbqS)

++++

Counting cards is not illegal or cheating, *unless* you are using something mechanical to do it. They busted some celebrity overseas for using his chips to keep track of the count. Obviously, anything involving people helping you is also cheating.

Yes, they first get suspicious if you win too much. That gets their attention, so then they start paying close attention to see if you are up to something. If you keep winning too much, they may decide not to allow you to play anymore, even if you aren't cheating. But, they can't take your winnings or have you arrested if they didn't catch you cheating.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 23, 2017 08:19 PM (FUu/Z)

157 This will be the endgame for the feminists.
Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (s7y11)

I've got to get into the SexBot Biz. Where's jwest ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:20 PM (fiGNd)

158
"The Ficus and the Frying Pan"

what a title for a book.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 23, 2017 08:20 PM (m9X4Y)

159 105
Speaking of math, can someone justify to me how "card counting" can be illegal?

Missouri and New Jersey outlawed card counting in their state's gambling joints., for example. I don't know about Nevada.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:07 PM (7NbqS)

In the past, Nevada would just kick you out for it... as the Law is that they can kick anyone out, for any, or no, reason at all.

But card counting is really killed by having 4 or 5 deck shoes, and using the auto shufflers after 1 or 2 decks.... which EVERY place in Nevada does...

Yes, I used to count cards.... /smile...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 23, 2017 08:20 PM (NgKpN)

160 I have an idea for a remake of Carrie, but the setting is a Hollywood studio, not a high school and Carrie is an abused starlet.
Posted by: Northerlurker
---------

Well, that's going to be messy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:18 PM (9tO1t)

A revised version of "Little Shop of Horrors", then. The plant only eats people who . . .

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 08:20 PM (s5o+q)

161 The book Less Than Zero pretty much called out young boys being pimped out in LA/Hollywood.

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 08:20 PM (s7y11)

162 Who knew that director Alan Parker was firing a warning shot on film? I remember thinking, Yeah, but that's not happening in the REAL film world.
Well, I was a kid.

Posted by: Shopgirl at October 23, 2017 08:13 PM (ASGHc)
****************************

It wasn't foresight it was recollection.

Posted by: gNewt at October 23, 2017 08:21 PM (9fNWb)

163 I've been told here that the perps just "know". They "sense". But Weinstein didn't touch ONE girl with a redneck dad ?
----------

Probably Democrats, like Monica Lewinsky's and Chandra Levy's. Neither, so far as I know, issued so much as a condemnation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:21 PM (9tO1t)

164 Fifty bucks Tom Hanks is a bit handsy as well.

=====

Well, now that you mention it....

Posted by: Peter Scolari at October 23, 2017 08:21 PM (QC/4S)

165 148 Play poker at a table, then it's like pari mutual betting at the track
Posted by: riktheYFITB

If you don't know who the pigeon is at the table, it's uou

If you can get people to assume that your a pigeon, you've won half the battle. Most poker players don't assume so easily

Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 08:21 PM (RhWew)

166 But, they can't take your winnings or have you arrested if they didn't catch you cheating.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 23, 2017 08:19 PM (FUu/Z)

Yeah, in the old days when the mob ran Vegas, they would just take you in a back room and break your knees.

Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord at October 23, 2017 08:21 PM (gEvQ8)

167 Fifty bucks Tom Hanks is a bit handsy as well.

Well ... it's no crime if I'm just handsy with myself.

Don't judge me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:22 PM (fiGNd)

168
Statute of Limitations for criminal charges has passed.

But libel / slander statute of limitations wouldn't start running until he said something.

So, he'd be in a bind -- without a criminal conviction (which is impossible at this point), he's going to face an uphill battle proving the allegations are true when whoever he accuses has millions of dollars to throw at lawyers.

So, likely, he'd end up bankrupt and still losing the case against him.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Not if some grand standing congressman asked him during testimony to a committee investigating Hollywood

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:23 PM (sWC1G)

169 143 I have had a Blackjack dealer momentarily stop dealing and ask me, "Why would you make that bet?"

That's Unusual.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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No kidding.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:17 PM (9tO1t)

What'd you say to him Mike?

Posted by: Tami at October 23, 2017 08:23 PM (Enq6K)

170 >>>This reminds me of that guy who was married to one
of the super-models (a real super-model, not one of the fakes) but she
divorced him because he wasn't having sex with her but was just jerking
off all day.

WTFFF?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair<<<

Maybe she identified as a fern? Sadly some women never learn that sex is more than just spreading the legs.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2017 08:23 PM (Kwhm/)

171 167 Fifty bucks Tom Hanks is a bit handsy as well.

so are you saying Tom Hanks yanks?

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:23 PM (nBr1j)

172
And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing??

The guy next to you is betting "one for bad and two for good".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 23, 2017 08:24 PM (7v00c)

173 I wonder how many wannabe actresses Jon Peters slept with. He wasn't a fat grotesque guy. It's all relative.

Posted by: Weed Masculinity at October 23, 2017 08:24 PM (hjrto)

174 170 >>>This reminds me of that guy who was married to one
of the super-models (a real super-model, not one of the fakes) but she
divorced him because he wasn't having sex with her but was just jerking
off all day.

Maybe he preferred the fantasy of a supermodel to a real woman.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:24 PM (nBr1j)

175 Never forget that familiarity breeds contempt.

People who have pretty women thrust at them day after day (what a trial huh?) become jaded and require odd and different things to ignite their libido.

Ask Freud (well he's dead) or Jung (he's dead too.).

About that. I'm glad I never got jaded. It's expensive and dangerous.

You see the result now.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 08:25 PM (ny0bQ)

176 -
--
So has Weinstein been banned from greenhouses and nurseries?

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:12 PM
-------------------------------

Dude was a huge customer for years, until we found out about him. On top of everything else, it turns out he's a pedophile.

Posted by: Gurney's Seed at October 23, 2017 08:25 PM (85f6P)

177
You're right -- counting cards is not illegal. New Jersey court ruled card counters cannot be banned from NJ casinos.

BUT casinos have the right to deny service to anyone.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:25 PM (7NbqS)

178 So Randy Quaid is sort of the baseline it seems....

Posted by: jsg at October 23, 2017 08:25 PM (6ZsjP)

179 I AM GROOT!

(smashes Weinstein into a greasy mess on the floor)

Posted by: Groot at October 23, 2017 08:25 PM (s5o+q)

180 What'd you say to him Mike?
Posted by: Tami
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Well, first, the bet paid off. When he asked, I was surprised, but replied (and I recall quite clearly), "I thought it was a reasonable wager."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:25 PM (9tO1t)

181 The worst part about blackjack is if you sit at the right side of the table, and then hit or stay when you shouldnt ...the players down the line get pretty upset, especially if you take a card that would have been a winner for them...ive almost got into fights over it

Posted by: E.T. at October 23, 2017 08:26 PM (P1GJy)

182 I have had a Blackjack dealer momentarily stop dealing and ask me, "Why would you make that bet?"

---

I don't gamble like that, but my first thought was to see if it was too late to double whatever wager you'd just made.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 23, 2017 08:26 PM (rjrh3)

183 ---And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing?? ---

The way you win at Black Jack is how and when you place your bets.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 08:26 PM (hjrto)

184 And yet, the left coast sneeringly looks down their collective noses at those of us in Jesusland who think sex belongs properly between a man and his wife, who are, in fact, man and woman.

There's a right way and a wrong way to do just about anything. It just so happens that the Big Guy Who Created Everything knows that simple fact and sent a few people to tell us the difference.

Ignore His good advice at your peril.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 23, 2017 08:26 PM (tRaq7)

185 Wait until the music industry gets exposed.

And the fashion industry. And the sports industry.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:27 PM (39g3+)

186 126 And how does the casino know you're counting cards? Is it because you're winning instead of losing??

Or do they judge the look of concentration on one's face?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Dunno, probably winning. I do know that I have had a Blackjack dealer momentarily stop dealing and ask me, "Why would you make that bet?" It was an uncomfortable moment.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:13 PM (9tO1t)

I used to count in grad school, and it's easy to spot another counter.

First, most people are retarded, and play like horses' asses (splitting 5s, etc.; I once saw a guy double down on 12 "for luck"). Anyone who doesn't do stupid shit stands out immediately.

Second, anyone whose decisions to hit/stand on given hands (e.g., 16 vs. say an 8 showing) is likely to be counting, and to know that the remaining deck is face card rich.

Third, anyone whose bets parallel the face card richness of the deck is a dead cert to be a counter.

When you're counting, you can spot other counters a mile off for these reasons.

A grad school buddy and I were once busted in Tahoe around 3 am. Our game was strong; we could easily chat and joke and maintain the count without obvious effort by just glancing at the table.

A pitboss came over and asked, "Are you guys playing Revere or Thorpe?" We pretended we didn't know what he was talking about.

"Don't insult my intelligence."

We admitted we were playing Revere. He remonstrated with us that we were doing all this work and should just have fun, but after a while was impressed that we maintained the count throughout this colloquy. Finally he told the dealer to let us play, as long as we played at our current frugal level (as befitted a couple of impecunious grad students).

Phew. Boy, were we relieved. That was back in the era when The Mob ran things. See, e.g., "Casino."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:27 PM (YqDXo)

187 A most spectacular sunset here in Arvada, CO. It's natural beauty like that that tells me God loves us to give us such a gift.

Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord at October 23, 2017 08:28 PM (gEvQ8)

188 Wait until the music industry gets exposed.

And the fashion industry. And the sports industry.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

And the DoD R&D and Test industry, wait ...

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:28 PM (sWC1G)

189 It's all relative.
Posted by: Weed Masculinity at October 23, 2017 08:24 PM (hjrto)

Or ... as we call it 'round here ... The Kentucky Gambit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:28 PM (fiGNd)

190 The worst part about blackjack is if you sit at the right side of the table, and then hit or stay when you shouldnt ...the players down the line get pretty upset, especially if you take a card that would have been a winner for them...ive almost got into fights over it

Posted by: E.T. at October 23, 2017 08:26 PM (P1GJy)

Yeah ... there tend to be lots of rocket surgeons at the blackjack tables ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:28 PM (8gDQu)

191 Second, anyone whose decisions to hit/stand on given hands (e.g., 16 vs. say an 8 showing) varies with deck composition is likely to be counting, and to know that the remaining deck is face card rich (and hence that the down card is likely to be paint).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:29 PM (YqDXo)

192
the players down the line get pretty upset, especially if you take a card that would have been a winner for them

Because you took THEIR ten!

Ace mentioned this recently, incidentally.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:29 PM (7NbqS)

193 Dealer: "Why did you make that bet?"

Me: "I had a feeling."

Dealer:

"The Guy Who Won Too Much."
The house always wins over the long run. When you start beating the law of averages, the house wants to know why.

When you start beating random chance, not just occasionally, but all the time, the house wants to know how you are doing it.

Kriplin Boson, a.k.a. 'The Keg' had a computer for a brain, and a direct line to God, and 'The Keg' was on a mission. Las Vegas had been in the gambling business for a long time, but they had never before encountered a man on a Mission from God.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 23, 2017 08:29 PM (m9X4Y)

194
BUT casinos have the right to deny service to anyone.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:25 PM (7NbqS)

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Public accommodation? Why, it just so happens I'm a queer disabled lesbian feminist.

Deal the damn cards.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 23, 2017 08:29 PM (rjrh3)

195 So Damon and Affleck played a lot of manly men characters, but in real life, the women in their lives were on their own against creeps like Weinstein and the big strong actors sucked their thumbs and probably (if any of the power cabal in HW leaned that way the bosses or money mens dicks) to get the next role.

How totally representative of that corrupt town and business.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 23, 2017 08:29 PM (eASYU)

196 First, most people are retarded, and play like horses' asses (splitting 5s, etc.; I once saw a guy double down on 12 "for luck").

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:27 PM (YqDXo)

Hey! James Bond hit on an 18 and kicked ass!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:30 PM (8gDQu)

197 105
Speaking of math, can someone justify to me how "card counting" can be illegal?

I'd like to know that myself.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 23, 2017 08:30 PM (pY+s4)

198 Little known fact trembling aspens got their name after the one and only time Harvey Weinstein went on a hike.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:30 PM (nBr1j)

199 I went out to dinner with Toback several more times, and each time he would allude to a type of connection he would need to experience with his actresses in order to effectively work with him.
___
So wait a minute - he keeps telling her that he is going to want to have sex with her or something to be in his movie.

And she keeps meeting him and apparently hoping she can get the role with something less then sex...even though it is clear he is talking to her because he wants to have sex with her. To this point he hasn't seen her act at all or any exhibition of acting skill.

Toback is a scumbag but...how the hell are we supposed to just the actress's role here? She's willing to get ahead by getting naked with him and talking with him about his sex fantasies that's still pretty scuzzy isn't it?

Posted by: Chad's side, side, side chick at October 23, 2017 08:32 PM (Z8FFX)

200 Card counting isn't illegal. Using devices to help card counting is illegal.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 08:32 PM (hjrto)

201 She's willing to get ahead by getting naked with him and talking with him about his sex fantasies that's still pretty scuzzy isn't it?
Posted by: Chad's side, side, side chick

Sounds like she raped him.

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:33 PM (sWC1G)

202 I've been told here that the perps just "know". They "sense". But Weinstein didn't touch ONE girl with a redneck dad ?

I'm sure he had enough security to stop me at the gate. But no way in hell he had enough security to stop THAT MESS from making the news.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:12 PM (fiGNd)

Grooming.

Virtually all sexual predators do it, one way or another. The bottom line is, you keep crossing lines before you get to the bottom (see what I did there?), and each one commits the victim, just a little bit more, and until the perp is ready, every line he crosses before he gets there has a plausible deniability about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 23, 2017 08:33 PM (Pz4pT)

203 And she keeps meeting him and apparently hoping she can get the role with something less then sex...even though it is clear he is talking to her because he wants to have sex with her.

Posted by: Chad's side, side, side chick at October 23, 2017 08:32 PM (Z8FFX)

To be fair, every guy who'd ever talked to her did so only because he wanted to have sex with her.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:33 PM (8gDQu)

204 190 The worst part about blackjack is if you sit at the right side of the table, and then hit or stay when you shouldnt ...the players down the line get pretty upset, especially if you take a card that would have been a winner for them...ive almost got into fights over it

Posted by: E.T. at October 23, 2017 08:26 PM (P1GJy)

Yeah ... there tend to be lots of rocket surgeons at the blackjack tables ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:28 PM (8gDQu)

That's true, but counters can also be pissed at a retard at first base for inexplicably taking hits that adversely affect the composition of the deck.

Suppose the deck is face card poor, the dealer has a face card showing, and a couple retards take seven hits apiece to bust their hands, and NOW the deck is face card rich, i.e., the dealer is likely to draw out on the remaining people.

Counters know what just happened, and are annoyed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:33 PM (YqDXo)

205 I'm strictly a video poker player myself, but I subscribe to the Bob Dancer school of play. I can routinely play 99.6% perfect against a 9/5 Double Double Bonus machine. The only thing is that increases my odds of winning to about 1% against the house, but sometimes it's the difference between losing or breaking even.

Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord at October 23, 2017 08:34 PM (gEvQ8)

206
I just watched this youtube video and it sounded like the reporter said counting cards was illegal in NJ and in MO. That's what got my goat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux0ecPftd4M

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:34 PM (7NbqS)

207 Posted by: E.T. at October 23, 2017 08:26 PM (P1GJy)

Those people shouldn't be allowed to play with people who aren't that serious about the play.

I hate those people. F**k them and their rules. Sometimes I like to play a hunch. They can go pound sand. I've had the same shit happen. I told pit boss that better never happen again. He agreed the guy was out of line and he got 86'd.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 08:34 PM (ny0bQ)

208 Burn it down.
Piss on the ashes.
Salt the ground with Cobalt-60.

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 23, 2017 08:35 PM (NWiLs)

209 Toback is a scumbag but...how the hell are we supposed to just the actress's role here? She's willing to get ahead by getting naked with him and talking with him about his sex fantasies that's still pretty scuzzy isn't it?
Posted by: Chad's side, side, side chick at October 23, 2017 08:32 PM (Z8FFX)

Ummmmm....Yes.

"Ask and you shall receive" as Matt said.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2017 08:35 PM (nUkMr)

210 200 Card counting isn't illegal. Using devices to help card counting is illegal.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 08:32 PM (hjrto)

Casinos maintain that it IS illegal, although I don't know whether that is true under Nevada law or not. I do know that back in the day it was standing room only at the bottom of Lake Mead.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:35 PM (YqDXo)

211 9/5 Double Double Bonus machine. The only thing is that increases my odds of winning to about 1% against the house, but sometimes it's the difference between losing or breaking even.
Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord

Do you make enough to own a plane

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:36 PM (sWC1G)

212
Toback is a scumbag but...how the hell are we
supposed to just the actress's role here? She's willing to get ahead by
getting naked with him and talking with him about his sex fantasies
that's still pretty scuzzy isn't it?

Posted by: Chad's side, side, side chick at October 23, 2017 08:32 PM (Z8FFX)

---

BREAKING NEWS!!!

This just in! Apparently men with money use said money to have sexual relationships with attractive women, and women use sex to get men to do what they want!

More at eleven!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Now in the Lost My Doctor AND My Monthly Premiums Doubled Column at October 23, 2017 08:36 PM (rjrh3)

213 Some of these stories fall into the regret is rape category.

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 08:36 PM (s7y11)

214 So ... card counting ... black jack.

Assuming an infinite deck ... 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 10, 10, 10, 5.5 for Ace.

Why is the assumption that the down card is a 10 ?

It looks like average is around 7 to me. I have made moderate amounts of money playing this way. Why am I wrong ? I assume I am ... but don't know why.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:36 PM (fiGNd)

215 I've split 10s before with the dealer showing 5 or 6. I only do it when I'm the only player at the table.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 08:36 PM (hjrto)

216
Hollywood MSM: comforting the comfortable and afflicting the afflicted.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2017 08:37 PM (0+S25)

217 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:34 PM (7NbqS)

Casinos make a lot of money for state. Thus they have lots of say in gambling laws.

Just the reality. There are ways to hide counting but that means you miss pots.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 08:37 PM (ny0bQ)

218 That's true, but counters can also be pissed at a retard at first base for inexplicably taking hits that adversely affect the composition of the deck.

Suppose the deck is face card poor, the dealer has a face card showing, and a couple retards take seven hits apiece to bust their hands, and NOW the deck is face card rich, i.e., the dealer is likely to draw out on the remaining people.

Counters know what just happened, and are annoyed.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:33 PM (YqDXo)

Meh. An idiot can just as easily NOT take a card when he should - stick on 14 against a 9, say.

Anyone who thinks that someone taking or not taking a card is actually affecting him in any way is just being silly and emotional. There is no "would have", really.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:37 PM (8gDQu)

219 The book Less Than Zero pretty much called out young boys being pimped out in LA/Hollywood.

Bret Easton Ellis. I have a small bit of a man crush on him.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2017 08:38 PM (6FqZa)

220
My dogs have a higher moral sense than the average Hollywood inhabitant.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2017 08:38 PM (0+S25)

221 A most spectacular sunset here in Arvada, CO. It's natural beauty like that that tells me God loves us to give us such a gift.
Posted by: Old Blue Sith
-----

The other morning, I was having coffee on the porch. As I watched the sundry little birds, Titmice, Chickadees, and Wrens flitting about and chirping, clearly just enjoying the sunny morning, I was struck anew by how we allow ourselves to become mired in artificial, superficial stuff that is pressed upon us.

I recollected the scene in 'Oh God', where George Burns says , "People say that 'Only God can make a tree', well a tree is really pretty easy, try to make a mackerel."

Just a tiny little bird can remind me that I'm pretty puny, and that we are surrounded by things and circumstances that can not be explained or truly understood.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 08:38 PM (9tO1t)

222 I'm not a gambler but I do understand that professionals can make money in poker by winning 51 percent of the time.
As I said, I don't play.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:38 PM (nBr1j)

223 De-sock.

Posted by: filbert at October 23, 2017 08:38 PM (s5o+q)

224 Yeah its not illegal but people who are really, really good at working the system and the odds will get banned from casinos.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

225 220
My dogs have a higher moral sense than the average Hollywood inhabitant.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 23, 2017 08:38 PM (0+S25)

I'm sure they do.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 08:39 PM (nBr1j)

226 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 08:34 PM (ny0bQ)

Never bothered me. I've won just as many times on a non traditional play by another player as I've lost.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 08:39 PM (hjrto)

227 Little known fact: card counting was devised by Edwin O. Thorp, a mathematician who published the basis of card counting in a paper in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and later published the book "Beat the Dealer."

Lawrence Revere considerably simplified Thorp's strategy, and made it much more usable by eliminating consideration of some of the more arcane situations that can arise.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:39 PM (YqDXo)

228 Do you make enough to own a plane

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:36 PM (sWC1G)

No, but the guy whose plan I subscribe to got his start by winning one million in one year. The year before the smoking ban in CO I won $38,000 in hand payouts. I got my win/loss statement from the casino and I was stunned to learn that I had run $942,000 through their machines, and my loss for the year was about $2,100. After the smoking ban went into effect, the casinos lost over eleven million the first year and every casino in Colorado tightened up their machines. I haven't done as well since then.

Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord at October 23, 2017 08:40 PM (gEvQ8)

229 Card counting isn't illegal. Using devices to help card counting is illegal.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 08:32 PM (hjrto)

It may not be unlawful but the Casinos can still throw you out for it. For anything really.

they don't beat you up like they used to many years ago.

They just ban your ass and spread your photo around to the other casinos. ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. So you get banned you're done ever gambling in a casino again. Or you'll at least be watched very carefully.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 08:40 PM (ny0bQ)

230 I knew a guy in high school who yanked it in the greeting card section of a department store.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at October 23, 2017 07:54 PM (nBr1j)

Looking for an invite to a "come as you are" party?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 08:40 PM (O848g)

231 I feel like I'm reading about an alien world of subhuman insects with whom I can not empathize. I just look at the details and squirm.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 23, 2017 08:41 PM (/qEW2)

232 222 I'm not a gambler but I do understand that professionals can make money in poker by winning 51 percent of the time.
As I said, I don't play.

If you're saying half the hands, yes that would be winning, a lot

Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 08:41 PM (RhWew)

233 >>>Toback then told me he saw me doing some xeroxing and felt connected to me

This means she had a great ass.

Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:42 PM (aovsP)

234 233 >>>Toback then told me he saw me doing some xeroxing and felt connected to me

This means she had a great ass.
Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:42 PM (aovsP)

Is that what she was xeroxing?

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 23, 2017 08:42 PM (NWiLs)

235 If you're saying half the hands, yes that would be winning, a lot
Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 08:41 PM (RhWew)

No shit. Those were the days !!!

Posted by: Harvey from Hollywood at October 23, 2017 08:43 PM (fiGNd)

236 Toback then told me he saw me doing some xeroxing and felt connected to me
--------------------------
This means she had a great ass.
Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:42 PM (aovsP)

Unless she's a chick who puts her rack on the glass and makes copies of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 23, 2017 08:43 PM (Pz4pT)

237 Corey Feldman was arrested over the weekend for marijuana possession. My first thought was that this arrest was a warning for him not to talk.
Posted by: never enough caffeine"

Weird. That was my first thought, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 23, 2017 07:55 PM (8/cWV)

You think rural Lousiana cops are carrying water for Hollywood bigwigs?

Two other possibilities:
1. He was arrested to keep him safe, so he could talk.

2. He was just so blatant about using pot in LA, that they couldn't find an excuse not to arrest him.

Betting on #2, myself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 08:43 PM (O848g)

238 Meh. An idiot can just as easily NOT take a card when he should - stick on 14 against a 9, say.

Anyone who thinks that someone taking or not taking a card is actually affecting him in any way is just being silly and emotional. There is no "would have", really.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:37 PM (8gDQu)

Yes and no. Suppose the dealer has a stiff (2-6) showing, and the deck is face card rich. Everyone at the table who has a clue will be sitting on his hand, anything to avoid busting it. Let the dealer bust his hand.

Someone who takes an unwarranted hit on such a deck can take the dealer's bust card. Several people doing that can materially affect the probability of the dealer busting.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:44 PM (YqDXo)

239 233 >>>Toback then told me he saw me doing some xeroxing and felt connected to me

This means she had a great ass.
Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:42 PM (aovsP)

Or he once saw a lady xeroxing her ass at a Christmas party. Human sexuality can be a tangled skein, but I think a lot of odd fetishes are based almost solely on what we were exposed to in those early puberty years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 23, 2017 08:44 PM (rb1zT)

240 I am so thankful I'm not good-looking enough to be an actor.

Posted by: Eromero at October 23, 2017 08:44 PM (zLDYs)

241 Know you know why Jackson didn't put me in LOTR.

I wouldn't open up the knothole.

Posted by: Quickbeam at October 23, 2017 08:44 PM (JFdIA)

242 235 If you're saying half the hands, yes that would be winning, a lot
Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 08:41 PM (RhWew)

No shit. Those were the days !!!

Probably throw a few hands to keep your ass out of the hospital

Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 08:45 PM (RhWew)

243 Betting on #2, myself.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 08:43 PM (O848g)

I'll take what's behind Door #3 ...

Louisiana State Troopers arrested Willie Nelson for possession not that long ago.

They just really like to make pot arrests.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:45 PM (fiGNd)

244
Women do this shit as well in Hollywood (and elsewhere), but there are differences, of course. Women won't be as reckless, and as overtly pervy.

I've read accounts of how the powerful women do it. With a wink and a nod, nothing direct, they look the young hunk know that if he wants the part, wants the job, he's got to take care of Mama.

If he doesn't, he's gone.

One actor I remember reading, said he turned some old broad down, and nothing happened. Until a month later, when he fired for cause. There was nothing that could be proved. She was a smart old broad in addition to a randy one.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 08:45 PM (8O3HH)

245 I knew a guy in high school who yanked it in the greeting card section of a department store.

Come on! The skimpily-clad hussy on the Valentine card was totally consenting.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (6FqZa)

246 Corey Feldman is a mess. He has been teasing having big info for nearly two decades now. Most likely he has squat, or a bunch of no-name casting director pervs,

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Bunch Em If You Got Em at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (RrhD2)

247 This just in! Apparently men with money use said money to have sexual relationships with attractive women, and women use sex to get men to do what they want!
***
So in some cases the Hollywood elites were clearly engaged in criminal activity - rape, sexual harassment, etc...but in some cases these people are engaged in perfectly legal activity - like sex for a role.

Traditionally western civilization put a soft ban on that - companies would fire you if they thought you were doing it and you would be drummed out of polite company....though Hollywood from the beginning had no problem with it. Probably because acting doesn't require much skill, and for most roles you really could pick anyone.

So what is the end game here? Suppose Hollwyood goes the full Mike Pence and no more hanky panky in casting. Is the left going to be happy when the pretty girl route to stardom ends? It will be just more nepotism I presume.

Note, I have no problem with Hollywood finding a few scruples for once here...but I don't see how they are going to like any potential outcome of this...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (Z8FFX)

248 I was stunned to learn that I had run $942,000 through their machines, and my loss for the year was about $2,100. After the smoking ban went into effect, the casinos lost over eleven million the first year and every casino in Colorado tightened up their machines. I haven't done as well since then.
Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord

Bar tabs are an expense?

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (sWC1G)

249

Louisiana State Troopers arrested Willie Nelson for possession not that long ago.

They just really like to make pot arrests.

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makes headlines
to encourage the others

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (m9X4Y)

250 Louisiana State Troopers arrested Willie Nelson for possession not that long ago.

I'd be willing to bet that when Willie dies there will be people lining up for miles just to smoke his remains. A really weird kind of cremation.

Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (gEvQ8)

251 Should have read more then the headline. Thanks for the update on Feldman. Didn't know it happened outside CA.
Just a coincidence.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at October 23, 2017 08:47 PM (N3JsI)

252 Assuming an infinite deck ... 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 10, 10, 10, 5.5 for Ace.

Why is the assumption that the down card is a 10 ?

It looks like average is around 7 to me. I have made moderate amounts of money playing this way. Why am I wrong ? I assume I am ... but don't know why.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:36 PM (fiGNd)

Because the average isn't relevant. The most probable unseen card is a 10. Furthermore, a 10 gives the player/dealer a chance at blackjack, which pays off 3/2 for the player.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:47 PM (YqDXo)

253 My first thought was that this arrest was a warning for him not to talk.

Corey being arrested for drugs is hardly shocking but the timing is curious, I agree.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:48 PM (39g3+)

254 So what is the end game here? Suppose Hollwyood goes the full Mike Pence and no more hanky panky in casting. Is the left going to be happy when the pretty girl route to stardom ends? It will be just more nepotism I presume.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (Z8FFX)

People are still going to very much prefer to see the prettiest women on screen, regardless.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 23, 2017 08:48 PM (8gDQu)

255 Yes and no. Suppose the dealer has a stiff (2-6) showing, and the deck is face card rich. Everyone at the table who has a clue will be sitting on his hand, anything to avoid busting it. Let the dealer bust his hand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:44 PM (YqDXo)

How rich are we talking ? 16 faces per deck, ten deck shoe ? 160 faces - out of 520 cards ?

How "rich" are you holding out for ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:48 PM (fiGNd)

256 246 Corey Feldman is a mess. He has been teasing having big info for nearly two decades now. Most likely he has squat, or a bunch of no-name casting director pervs,
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Bunch Em If You Got Em at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (RrhD2)

Possibly. Or he could be truly fucked up and very scared.

There are enough tales of Hollywood's treatment of child stars, coupled with their extraordinarily high addiction rate to lend more than a bit of credence to his story.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 23, 2017 08:48 PM (rb1zT)

257
Wynn is building a $2B casino in Everett, MA, which is about 12 miles from me.

I have no idea why anyone would think this is a good idea.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:48 PM (7NbqS)

258 Thirty-two million dollars.

Thirty-two. Million. Dollars.

Posted by: Bill O'Really at October 23, 2017 08:49 PM (398bZ)

259 Bar tabs are an expense?

Posted by: Jean at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (sWC1G)

Nope, that was actual coin in/coin out. But the perks were really nice. A Billy Joel concert, a suite at a Denver Nuggets game, stuff like that.

Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord at October 23, 2017 08:49 PM (gEvQ8)

260 Corey Feldman is a mess. He has been teasing having big info for nearly two decades now. Most likely he has squat, or a bunch of no-name casting director pervs,
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Bunch Em If You Got Em at October 23, 2017 08:46 PM (RrhD2)

No reason why it could be both, that he IS a mess, and he's telling the truth.

In fact, the former could quite easily be a direct effect of the latter.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 23, 2017 08:51 PM (Pz4pT)

261 This means she had a great ass.
***
The actress says Toback said she had an Eastern European lower half and a petite French top half and that he would only show the top half in film.....so I presume he actually didn't like her ass.

She has a very pretty face from what I can see of her pictures.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2017 08:51 PM (Z8FFX)

262 Gotta go. Dinner is soived!

Posted by: Old Blue Sith Lord at October 23, 2017 08:52 PM (gEvQ8)

263 Wynn is building a $2B casino in Everett, MA, which is about 12 miles from me.
***
Massholes have inflated salaries just begging for a stupidity tax?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2017 08:53 PM (Z8FFX)

264 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 23, 2017 08:48 PM (7NbqS)

Because he will likely gross well over two billion before he has to pay off his creditors.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 08:53 PM (hjrto)

265 So many of these women saying they were preyed upon by Weinstein are some of the most shrill anti-GOP, anti-conservative harpies out there.

They're shit on by Democrats in Hollywood who attacked them and then covered up for the perps, then they spend their time publicly screaming at Republicans about being 'anti-woman.'

I'm going to be a lot less courteous to shrill left-wing Hollywood harpies when they go after easy targets than actual meaningful ones just because they're afraid of ruining their careers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 23, 2017 08:53 PM (oVJmc)

266 >> Eastern European lower half

I like Czech ass. Hungarian, too.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 08:53 PM (8O3HH)

267 Because the average isn't relevant. The most probable unseen card is a 10. Furthermore, a 10 gives the player/dealer a chance at blackjack, which pays off 3/2 for the player.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:47 PM (YqDXo)

Yeah ... this is where I depart from most gamblers. Never believed in playing "expected pot odds" in Texas Hold 'Em either.

I always play each card as a new probability event - and adjust accordingly. I tend to win small.

But I could see adjusting odds, on the fly, based upon that 1.5 win percentage ... depending on my cards. But if I'm holding twelve ... I'll continue to play given an average expected card of 7.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:53 PM (fiGNd)

268 Generally speaking, from what I've seen on documentaries, if you are booted out of a casino, they don't care if you gut a competitor.

But the guys who do beat the system do so because they are "whales" that the casino throws tons of goodies at to gamble there, sometimes so many that a smart player can hardly lose with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:54 PM (39g3+)

269

To the Barrel !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:54 PM (fiGNd)

270 The only film I've seen of Toback's is The Gambler with James Caan. He didn't direct it, but he did write it.

It's about a guy with a compulsion he can't control. So I guess it was autobiographical.

It was also a piece of garbage.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 23, 2017 08:55 PM (l9m7l)

271 Calculate these odds ... that I die in this friggin' Stew of Dispair.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:55 PM (fiGNd)

272 Pro tip: Don't break the law in Louisiana, we're not an enlightened state.

Posted by: Angola at October 23, 2017 08:55 PM (9fNWb)

273 They're shit on by Democrats in Hollywood who attacked them and then covered up for the perps, then they spend their time publicly screaming at Republicans about being 'anti-woman.'
***
# of Women Mike "Handmaid's Tale Guy" Pence has abused - 0.

# of Women Harvey "I'm a Feminist Icon" Weinstein has abused ~30

# of Women Bill "Liberal Lion" Clinton has abused ~8

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2017 08:55 PM (Z8FFX)

274 How rich are we talking ? 16 faces per deck, ten deck shoe ? 160 faces - out of 520 cards ?

How "rich" are you holding out for ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:48 PM (fiGNd)

A couple answers.

First, there is no threshold. In counting, you use the deck composition to modulate your bet size in proportion to how that composition favors the player.

So the more 10-rich a deck, which favors the player (because he gets paid 3/2 for blackjack, and who can split 10s and hit two more 10s, or double down and hit a 10, i.e. can change his bet after seeing his cards), the larger the bet. The variation in bet size is effectively continuous (although that stands out).

To your second point, back in the day, casinos used to use a single deck. The swings in composition in a single deck can be HUGE. If you're counting, when you get to the end of deck, in some cases you KNOW there are only face cards or no face cards left. That's a huge advantage in playing your hand/ modulating your bet size.

Nowadays, with 17 decks, and shuffles halfway through, the swings in composition are minuscule. Which is why casinos do that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:55 PM (YqDXo)

275 And tying this all together, Ben Affleck has been banned for life from playing blackjack at a Vegas casino. Man also has a massive alcohol problem too. He's not innocent in any way, but he's got problems. Would be interesting to know what caused them.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 23, 2017 08:56 PM (FQKBL)

276 Suppose the deck is face card poor, the dealer has a face card showing, and a couple retards take seven hits apiece to bust their hands, and NOW the deck is face card rich, i.e., the dealer is likely to draw out on the remaining people.

Counters know what just happened, and are annoyed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:33 PM (YqDXo)

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Try being at first base and splitting Kings when the dealer is showing a 6, and then splitting another dealt King. The rest of the infield lost their shit, but the dealer busted.

I was asked to leave the Bellagio that night after going up 16k because they were "uncomfortable with level of skill in my play". In reality, I had played with the Blackjack app on my Kindle for two weeks prior and constantly hit "suggestions" button.

Posted by: Sidedraft at October 23, 2017 08:57 PM (I16G8)

277 If the casinos don't want you counting carbs then perhaps they should rethink the buffet concept.

Posted by: Weasel at October 23, 2017 08:57 PM (Sfs6o)

278 >>>Possibly. Or he could be truly fucked up and very scared

Corey Feldman fucked up?
Have you seen him perform with his band?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Bunch Em If You Got Em at October 23, 2017 08:57 PM (RrhD2)

279 I saw Impecunious open for Dragonforce at Wickerman in '99.

Great story, Jay.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 23, 2017 08:58 PM (rnAwa)

280
So many of these women saying they were preyed upon by Weinstein are
some of the most shrill anti-GOP, anti-conservative harpies out there.

They're
shit on by Democrats in Hollywood who attacked them and then covered up
for the perps, then they spend their time publicly screaming at
Republicans about being 'anti-woman.'
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Democrats are rapists, but they are tolerant rapists.

Republicans are not rapists, but they are not tolerant.

We require tolerance, and tolerate rape as a by product.

So really, it works for us.

/and no, I'm not engaging in psychological displacement, why do you ask?

Posted by: feminazis everywhere at October 23, 2017 08:58 PM (aT+Bx)

281 *rolls eyes*

Posted by: pol hates everybody at October 23, 2017 08:58 PM (s7y11)

282 Nowadays, with 17 decks, and shuffles halfway through, the swings in composition are minuscule. Which is why casinos do that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 08:55 PM (YqDXo)

That I knew.

Man ... I love this topic. And talking to somebody that's used it in the field is awesome.

Thanks. Seriously.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:59 PM (fiGNd)

283 >>>.so I presume he actually didn't like her ass.

He jacks off seven times a day.
He dry humped her thigh/hip.
We're just arguing apples and tree potatoes here.

Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 08:59 PM (aovsP)

284 Gambling taught me early on that I'd never do well at gambling, so I stayed away from it except for Lotto, and I've played that about 10 times in the past 10 years. I have kicked some serious ass at penny poker, tho'. Even then, I never felt the urge to get any deeper into it than that, thank Goodness.

Why try to do something like that when you know the odds are purposely stacked against you?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 23, 2017 08:59 PM (tRaq7)

285 # of Women Harvey "I'm a Feminist Icon" Weinstein has abused ~30

# of Women Bill "Liberal Lion" Clinton has abused ~8
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Really? Do you really think those numbers are accurate?

I'd estimate both to be higher.

Posted by: shibumi at October 23, 2017 08:59 PM (aT+Bx)

286 # of Women Mike "Handmaid's Tale Guy" Pence has abused - 0.

# of Women Harvey "I'm a Feminist Icon" Weinstein has abused ~30

# of Women Bill "Liberal Lion" Clinton has abused ~8

Yeah, I get why feminists hate men. I get why the left wants to hack every guy's nads off. I understand their antithesis to men. If the guy isn't a rapist or molester, he's apathetic, wretched emasculated piece of trash.

No wonder they hate men. They don't know any.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 09:00 PM (39g3+)

287 But I could see adjusting odds, on the fly, based upon that 1.5 win percentage ... depending on my cards. But if I'm holding twelve ... I'll continue to play given an average expected card of 7.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:53 PM (fiGNd)

Here's the problem: the most likely card - a 10 - busts your hand. The cards 2-5 merely give you another stiff, in fact a worse stiff than you had with a 12. (Because there are fewer cards to make your hand.) A 6 or 7 gives you 18 or 19, which is a losing hand if the dealer has a face card showing. Only a 9 will make your hand.

The crucial consideration is what the dealer has. If the dealer has a 6 showing, stand on 12; the dealer most probably has 16, which he has to hit, and which he most likely will bust. So you don't chance busting any hand in that case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:02 PM (YqDXo)

288 Possibly. Or he could be truly fucked up and very scared

Corey Feldman fucked up?
Have you seen him perform with his band?
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Bunch Em If You Got Em at October 23, 2017 08:57 PM (RrhD2)

Yup...absolutely horrible.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 23, 2017 09:02 PM (nUkMr)

289 I suspect Clooney, Damon HWeinstein are the best of buds, creeps tend to hang out with other creeps. If Damon is not every bit the sociopath he portrayed in The Talented Mr. Ripley, then Clinton is a saint. Clooney never left grade school with his infantile pranks on the various movie sets he has worked. I rarely have violent reactions to people, but I would love to hammer each of the aforementioned creeps.

Posted by: Locke Common at October 23, 2017 09:03 PM (YWm2G)

290 On that Scoggdog like Weinstein on a ficus.

Posted by: The Barrel at October 23, 2017 09:03 PM (tbOMB)

291 Try being at first base and splitting Kings when the dealer is showing a 6, and then splitting another dealt King. The rest of the infield lost their shit, but the dealer busted.

When the dealer shows a six, i agree you should get as much money on the table as possible. Split and double down (Where allowed). Let the rest of the table whine.

Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 09:03 PM (aovsP)

292 But the guys who do beat the system do so because they are "whales" that the casino throws tons of goodies at to gamble there, sometimes so many that a smart player can hardly lose with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 08:54 PM (39g3+)

++++

No, I don't think that's right. A whale is a guy who bets big, not someone who wins. The reason the casinos give him all the comps is to get this big better to play at their joint instead of a competitor's.

Even if the whale wins, they want him to keep on playing, figuring that sooner or later, the odds will win and the whale will lose.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 23, 2017 09:03 PM (FUu/Z)

293 The most fun table game I've played but with some of the worst odds of winning because of how they require you to bet is Texas Hold Em. The fun part is the bonus bet minimum $10. If you get a pair of aces in the hole it's 30 to 1 payoff on the bonus bet. Ace King suited 25 to 1 , and so on down to 2 to 1 for pairs.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 09:04 PM (hjrto)

294 >>>So in some cases the Hollywood elites were clearly engaged in criminal
activity - rape, sexual harassment, etc...but in some cases these people
are engaged in perfectly legal activity - like sex for a role.
<<<

Yes, but how fucked up do you have to be to go from zero to BEASTMODE? Let's see, you're a multimillionaire, you're incredibly well connected within the industry, you have something a beautiful, ambitious, young woman wants, oh, you have lots of money, - and did I say that already? For fuck sake, at some point, Harvey transitioned into a disgusting, stupid, pig. Nobody is above a good asskicking/beatdown.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2017 09:05 PM (Kwhm/)

295 Why try to do something like that when you know the odds are purposely stacked against you?

Mostly because people think they can beat it. They're too smart to lose, the casinos are dumb they can win!

And, its fun for some people, the risk and challenge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 09:06 PM (39g3+)

296 The crucial consideration is what the dealer has. If the dealer has a 6 showing, stand on 12; the dealer most probably has 16, which he has to hit, and which he most likely will bust. So you don't chance busting any hand in that case.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:02 PM (YqDXo)

I get that.

I've done some two-card projections ... using the long-hand combinations and permutions ... without splitting ... to tried and project those odds. But there are SO MANY possibilities.

The corrolary to what you say ... as I see it ... is that a 10, although the most LIKELY card (4/13 possibilities) ... still isn't a PROBABLE card.

But it's a very interesting problem. And that's why I enjoy the damn game. Even though it's a losing proposition.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:07 PM (fiGNd)

297 Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 09:03 PM (aovsP)

A lot depends on the amount of your original bet. If you have a big bet down it's hard to potentially throw away a likely winner.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 09:07 PM (hjrto)

298 Man ... I love this topic. And talking to somebody that's used it in the field is awesome.

Thanks. Seriously.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 08:59 PM (fiGNd)

Thanks. My buddies and I in grad school spent years studying math (as part of our studies in physics and chemistry), and decided to make use of it in a ... more practical context. Back in the day, I used to practice by putting on both the radio and the TV (for distraction), and burn through a deck of cards in 40 seconds, literally as fast as I could deal, after which I could tell you what cards were left.

Can't do it anymore, through lack of practice, age, and (ahem) Scotch, but those were good days.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:07 PM (YqDXo)

299 Dr Freud would be amused. All these harpies abused and belittled by the left order taking it out on conservative men. Their visceral hatred of all things Trump - can't do anything with the likes of plant pollinator, so they take it on on DJT.

Posted by: runner at October 23, 2017 09:08 PM (QC/4S)

300 is it just me, or is there something wrong with the comments link on the main page?

i hit the one for here, and got "service not available, or some such.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 23, 2017 09:08 PM (OK5xV)

301 Buzzion, from two threads below. Thanks for the tip re 500 server error and SmartPunctuation; it seems to have done the trick.
Although it's really weird taking advice from a dead guy.
Got any tips on this week's PowerBall?

Posted by: RI Red - 100% pure Sonobian Covfefe brewing at October 23, 2017 09:09 PM (hLlFs)

302 I tell you what I don't enjoy ... what The Barrel is trying to deal me in on right now.

Not cool.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:09 PM (fiGNd)

303 So, did Matt and George have to blow someone to get their parts, or take it up the squeaker?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 23, 2017 09:10 PM (xInes)

304 I'm waiting for the stories about how these preverts 'helped' some young starlet by paying for an abortion or contributed to PP. Then all will be forgiven. By the left. Underage? Buggering boys? Well, after all, nobody is perfect.

I hope not but would not be surprised.

Posted by: JTB at October 23, 2017 09:10 PM (V+03K)

305 The corrolary to what you say ... as I see it ... is that a 10, although the most LIKELY card (4/13 possibilities) ... still isn't a PROBABLE card.

But it's a very interesting problem. And that's why I enjoy the damn game. Even though it's a losing proposition.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:07 PM (fiGNd)

It's a VERY interesting and complex problem, which is why Thorp's strategy warranted publication in PNAS.

To zeroth order, you assume every card you haven't seen is a face card. It's not A probable card, as you say, but it is the MOST probable card.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:11 PM (YqDXo)

306 301 Buzzion, from two threads below. Thanks for the tip re 500 server error and SmartPunctuation; it seems to have done the trick.
Although it's really weird taking advice from a dead guy.
Got any tips on this week's PowerBall?
Posted by: RI Red - 100% pure Sonobian Covfefe brewing at October 23, 2017 09:09 PM (hLlFs)

Sure. Your odds of winning are as statistically significant if you don't play than they are if you do play.

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:11 PM (z/Ubi)

307 So, did Matt and George have to blow someone to get their parts, or take it up the squeaker?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 23, 2017 09:10 PM

embrace the power of "and"

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 23, 2017 09:12 PM (KCxzN)

308 The most fun way to play blackjack?

Forget counting, play Revere's basic strategy (essentially even up with the house), suck down the free house Scotch, and ogle the waitresses.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:12 PM (YqDXo)

309 No, I don't think that's right. A whale is a guy who bets big, not someone who wins. The reason the casinos give him all the comps is to get this big better to play at their joint instead of a competitor's.

Sure, but sometimes they mess up, sometimes they give up too many bennies and too many bonuses at the table and a clever player can use that against them. I watched a doc on Netflix about these guys and how they use the system

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 09:13 PM (39g3+)

310 John Besh is stepping down as head of his restaurant group, his cooking show is being dropped from the local PBS station and Harrah's is shutting down his steakhouse in the their casino in N.O. because, guess what.

Posted by: Javems at October 23, 2017 09:14 PM (yOqwj)

311 To zeroth order, you assume every card you haven't seen is a face card. It's not A probable card, as you say, but it is the MOST probable card.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:11 PM (YqDXo)

I've played around with the Dealer's Hand ... using an infinite deck, and odds of their final hand based upon their up card and an average down card not equal to 10.

Those numbers are easier ... but way too many to memorize ... just because the rules for the dealer are finite.

I've never studied a Card Counting method. But now I'll have to ... sounds interesting as hell.

And you made money on this, back in the day. That's cool as shit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:14 PM (fiGNd)

312 So, did Matt and George have to blow someone to get their parts, or take it up the squeaker?

***
Clooney started off as a kid in Hollywood so probably. It would explain a lot of things about him...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2017 09:15 PM (Z8FFX)

313 291 Try being at first base and splitting Kings when the dealer is showing a 6, and then splitting another dealt King. The rest of the infield lost their shit, but the dealer busted.

When the dealer shows a six, i agree you should get as much money on the table as possible. Split and double down (Where allowed). Let the rest of the table whine.
Posted by: wooga at October 23, 2017 09:03 PM (aovsP)

Sound play, unless you're counting, and know the deck is seriously depleted in 10s. Those losing their shit are retarded. I'd split/double down almost every time in that situation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:15 PM (YqDXo)

314 John Besh is stepping down as head of his restaurant group, his cooking show is being dropped from the local PBS station and Harrah's is shutting down his steakhouse in the their casino in N.O. because, guess what.
Posted by: Javems at October 23, 2017 09:14 PM (yOqwj)

Elevated cream content in the cilantro?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:16 PM (tbOMB)

315
312 So, did Matt and George have to blow someone to get their parts, or take it up the squeaker?

***
Clooney started off as a kid in Hollywood so probably. It would explain a lot of things about him...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 23, 2017 09:15 PM (Z8FFX)

Of course, Clooney started off as mid-level Hollywood royalty, so he was basically a legacy pledge.

You know, like Flounder.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 23, 2017 09:16 PM (eXA4G)

316 What this Barrel is trying to get away with is most definitely not "Sound Play".

Keep it up, bitch. I'll get my hands on the .357 sooner or later.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:17 PM (fiGNd)

317 Got milk?

I like milk.

(To be fair, Besh himself isn't the lactophile, that was one of his butt boys. Or milk boys, I should say).

Posted by: John Besh at October 23, 2017 09:18 PM (8O3HH)

318 I've never studied a Card Counting method. But now I'll have to ... sounds interesting as hell.

And you made money on this, back in the day. That's cool as shit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:14 PM (fiGNd)

Study Revere "Playing Blackjack as a Business." It's much more user friendly than Thorp.

And we never made much money. As grad students, we were paid $400/month, so we didn't have doodly, and were subject to gambler's ruin (i.e., overbetting our capital, so a bad swing would wipe us out. Ideally, you'd have at least 100X your minimum in capital, to wait out bad streaks.).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:19 PM (YqDXo)

319 The most fun way to play blackjack?

Forget counting, play Revere's basic strategy (essentially even up with the house), suck down the free house Scotch, and ogle the waitresses.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:12 PM (YqDXo)

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It is the most fun way to play if you are just there for entertainment and don't mind losing a little.

Not so good if you are there to win, as I never drink when I gamble to win. And I have used Reveres method.

Bad part of this is it is a big tell to pit bosses if you are not drinking, even if you just order one and sip it.

Posted by: Sidedraft at October 23, 2017 09:21 PM (I16G8)

320
The gods have a sense of humor, big time.

The John Besh Foundation, some charitable thing, has a program they call "Milk Money". Not making that up.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 09:22 PM (8O3HH)

321 And we never made much money. As grad students, we were paid $400/month, so we didn't have doodly, and were subject to gambler's ruin (i.e., overbetting our capital, so a bad swing would wipe us out. Ideally, you'd have at least 100X your minimum in capital, to wait out bad streaks.).

The other danger is that you get caught up thinking its you that is lucky and smart rather than the system, so you start taking risks because of a gut feeling or start to break the system because you know better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 09:23 PM (39g3+)

322 @310

Sexual harassment is going be the downfall of many.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 23, 2017 09:24 PM (Wtll+)

323 Everett, MA

Truly the bowels of the Earth.

Urban Dictionary has a hilarious description of the forlorn hamlet

Posted by: The Gimp at October 23, 2017 09:25 PM (LVrfb)

324 It is the most fun way to play if you are just there for entertainment and don't mind losing a little.

Not so good if you are there to win, as I never drink when I gamble to win. And I have used Reveres method.

Bad part of this is it is a big tell to pit bosses if you are not drinking, even if you just order one and sip it.
Posted by: Sidedraft at October 23, 2017 09:21 PM (I16G

I don't gamble to win anymore, and in fact don't gamble at all. It used to be fun, but now ... not so much. I might play a little under the conditions specified above, but I bring the Mrs. and the brood, take in a few shows, hit the buffet, and call it good.

God, I'm getting old.

At some point I have to tell you guys about the time some people were trying to recruit my buddies and me to run gold panning expeditions in the Sierras.

But that's another story.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:26 PM (YqDXo)

325 Study Revere "Playing Blackjack as a Business." It's much more user friendly than Thorp.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:19 PM (YqDXo)

I just looked him up. Friggin' Brilliant. Instead of going purely Theoretical ... like I tried with Combinations and Permutations ... he went Simulation instead.

I've done that on other shit. Never thought to apply it to Black Jack. Because I'm an idiot. Would have been SO EASY to apply using a few loops and some IF/THEN for an Ace.

I think, if I read it correctly, the cat just plotted results and looked for trends. Damn. Smart.

Sklansky did that in "The Theory of Poker", using data from an actual card room. Gardena, I think.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:26 PM (fiGNd)

326 Speak Lies to Power.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 23, 2017 09:27 PM (e1mEI)

327 The other danger is that you get caught up thinking its you that is lucky and smart rather than the system, so you start taking risks because of a gut feeling or start to break the system because you know better.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 09:23 PM (39g3+)

Das ist streng verboten. Stick to the math; don't play hunches. EVER.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:27 PM (YqDXo)

328 Got any tips on this week's PowerBall?
Posted by: RI Red - 100% pure Sonobian Covfefe brewing at October 23, 2017 09:09 PM (hLlFs)

Sure. Your odds of winning are as statistically significant if you don't play than they are if you do play.

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:11 PM (z/Ubi)

++++

You can't win if you ain't in.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 23, 2017 09:28 PM (FUu/Z)

329 Later peeps. Early up tomorrow.

Jay ... thanks again. Cool discussion.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:28 PM (fiGNd)

330 Das ist streng verboten. Stick to the math; don't play hunches. EVER.

Yeah, problem is it works sometimes and that fools you into thinking you have some insight or special intuitive ability. Even if just in the moment when things are going well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 09:30 PM (39g3+)

331
The human mind actually sucks at probability. Our "gut feelings" about this stuff are almost always wrong.

Darwin did not select for this.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 09:30 PM (8O3HH)

332 Everett, MA

Truly the bowels of the Earth.

Urban Dictionary has a hilarious description of the forlorn hamlet
Posted by: The Gimp at October 23, 2017 09:25 PM (LVrfb)

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A crazy guy named Bugsy Seigel once had a dream about an at the time "forelorn town" called Las Vegas.......

My money would be on Wynn.

Posted by: Sidedraft at October 23, 2017 09:31 PM (I16G8)

333 I just looked him up. Friggin' Brilliant. Instead of going purely Theoretical ... like I tried with Combinations and Permutations ... he went Simulation instead.

I've done that on other shit. Never thought to apply it to Black Jack. Because I'm an idiot. Would have been SO EASY to apply using a few loops and some IF/THEN for an Ace.

I think, if I read it correctly, the cat just plotted results and looked for trends. Damn. Smart.

Sklansky did that in "The Theory of Poker", using data from an actual card room. Gardena, I think.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:26 PM (fiGNd)

Revere basically detuned Thorp a bit, thereby simplifying it enough to allow one to make betting and card-playing decisions in real time.

After eight hours of playing we used to be so wired from concentrating that we couldn't sleep. We'd go over to the poker tables, just to watch, and we'd have the count from every card that hit the table. We couldn't stop.

It was actually kind of scary. But it's how we could talk with people, then glance around the table, and have the count, without obvious effort. Counting was kind of like ... driving.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:31 PM (YqDXo)

334 re the sidebar on Discovery's retard grade, here's a Youtube commenter SinuousGrace, 4 days ago -

I agree, we actually enjoy The Orville quite a bit. Little interest in contracting an STD.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2017 09:31 PM (6FqZa)

335 Possibly. Or he could be truly fucked up and very scared.

There are enough tales of Hollywood's treatment of child stars, coupled with their extraordinarily high addiction rate to lend more than a bit of credence to his story.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

There is probably a rather thick file with lots of details in the hands of some lawyer to be released upon his death...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at October 23, 2017 09:31 PM (aZUTI)

336 How about watching the roulette wheel and when it gets either red or black 6 or greater times in a row make your bet on the opposite but be prepared to double your bet at least twice in the event the same color comes up again and start over after breaking even ( hopefully). I know the law of large numbers pretty much gives the same odds that either red or black will come up but what is the statistical probability that the same color will come up 9 or 10 times in a row? Yeah still the law of large numbers. I wonder what the record is of the same color . I also know this is the reason the casino puts up the board. To get those suckers , including me to bet. I've done this a couple of times and broke even once and won 500 once. It takes too much time though for the table to be ready for a bet.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 09:33 PM (hjrto)

337 I don't think Clooney grew up in Hollywood. His dad is Nick Clooney, who was a news anchor at Channel 9 in Cincinnati for years. I remember seeing him on TV when I was a kid, back when we watched TV by candlelight. So I think he grew up in Cincinnati.

His aunt was Rosemary Clooney, who was a semi-famous singer, but that's about it.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at October 23, 2017 09:33 PM (S6Pax)

338

There's been several tasks that I've gotten so into, that I dream about them. And you know that twilight between wake and sleep? In that, in my mind, I was doing the task over and over again.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 09:34 PM (8O3HH)

339 Yeah, problem is it works sometimes and that fools you into thinking you have some insight or special intuitive ability. Even if just in the moment when things are going well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 23, 2017 09:30 PM (39g3+)

Intuition can and will lead you astray.

Classic lecture demonstration: you hold a bowling ball suspended from the ceiling on a cord in front of your face, then release it.

It swings out, and back, and stops ... maybe a centimeter from your face ... before swinging out again.

Trust the math/physics.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:34 PM (YqDXo)

340 It was actually kind of scary. But it's how we could talk with people, then glance around the table, and have the count, without obvious effort. Counting was kind of like ... driving.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 09:31 PM (YqDXo)

Tommy Franks said spotting elevations took on the same kind of thing during Ft. Sill and later in 'Nam in "American Soldier".

Very cool. And now I'm really out. Beauty sleep and all that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:34 PM (fiGNd)

341 310 John Besh is stepping down as head of his restaurant group, his cooking show is being dropped from the local PBS station and Harrah's is shutting down his steakhouse in the their casino in N.O. because, guess what.
Posted by: Javems at October 23, 2017 09:14 PM (yOqwj)

So that's like 3 this weekend. SEIU $15 minimum wage clown, founder of antigamergate site NeoGAF, and now this guy.

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:36 PM (z/Ubi)

342 >> Classic lecture demonstration: you hold a bowling ball suspended from the ceiling on a cord in front of your face, then release it.

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Make sure to just release it, not push it.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 09:37 PM (8O3HH)

343 There's been several tasks that I've gotten so into, that I dream about them. And you know that twilight between wake and sleep? In that, in my mind, I was doing the task over and over again.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 09:34 PM (8O3HH)

Oh ... geez.

I've written code in my sleep. Found the problem with broken machines in my sleep.

Had premonitions in my sleep, regarding situations at work that I knew were coming, and knew while they were happening that I'd had the premonition.

But I'm nuts. And now I'm going to sleep. To dream.

Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:37 PM (fiGNd)

344 Rosemary Clooney was more than "semi-famous". She was at the top of the charts for a while.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 09:38 PM (O848g)

345 But I'm nuts. And now I'm going to sleep. To dream.
Posted by: ScoggDog at October 23, 2017 09:37 PM (fiGNd)

Aye, there's the rub.

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 23, 2017 09:38 PM (NWiLs)

346 Everett, MA

Truly the bowels of the Earth.

Urban Dictionary has a hilarious description of the forlorn hamlet

My hometown. Used to be a great blue collar town, until Section 8 housing, illegal Brazilians (the vanguard of the illegals), and cheap heroin. Big stronghold of the FSA, Best high school football team in the state though.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 23, 2017 09:38 PM (O5Q3r)

347 It swings out, and back, and stops ... maybe a centimeter from your face ... before swinging out again.

Trust the math/physics.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Given enough time, it will smack someone else in the face.

Posted by: Foucault at October 23, 2017 09:39 PM (w1zJX)

348 Trust the math/physics.

Those are just oppressive constructs of the patriarchy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 23, 2017 09:40 PM (NWiLs)

349 Watching Newt on Hannity, I swear he had a few too many cocktails at dinner. He was quite funny, actually.

Posted by: Pete Seria at October 23, 2017 09:41 PM (lJW6d)

350 Rosemary Clooney was more than "semi-famous". She was at the top of the charts for a while.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Come On-a My House

Posted by: Foucault at October 23, 2017 09:42 PM (w1zJX)

351 Oops. Off with pendulous sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 09:42 PM (w1zJX)

352 Make sure to just release it, not push it.

That's what i said about my chakra!

Posted by: Al Gore at October 23, 2017 09:43 PM (aovsP)

353 Come On-a My House

Posted by: Foucault at October 23, 2017 09:42 PM (w1zJX)

The first little piggie built his house of ficus straw, but it didn't keep the big bad Weinstein out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 09:43 PM (O848g)

354 Posted by: Foucault at October 23, 2017 09:39 PM (w1zJX)

You would have fit right in Hollywood pursuing young boy actors.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 23, 2017 09:44 PM (hjrto)

355 >> chakra!

I'd rather have at a Yoni.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 23, 2017 09:44 PM (8O3HH)

356 @341 Wait there's more.

Know how there's one (1) Howard Johnson's restaurant left in the whole world, in Lake George NY?

Owner arrested for what an old waitress acquaintance once described as "one too many games of stink-finger in the back cooler." Business now doomed.

Thanks, Weinstein.

Without endorsing one side or any other, here's a prediction you will not enjoy: if we stock and pillory the works and ways of every man who has ever been a sexual ogre more than once, you won't like the country or world you have left.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 23, 2017 09:45 PM (H5rtT)

357 The first little piggie built his house of ficus straw, but it didn't keep the big bad Weinstein out.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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The 21st Century version would have used Chinese drywall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 09:45 PM (w1zJX)

358 Ok, this is just creepy. Guess what Refugee-ette did in phsyics class today?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:46 PM (JyFLk)

359 Ok, this is just creepy. Guess what Refugee-ette did in phsyics class today?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:46 PM (JyFLk)

Microwaved a bowling ball?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 09:47 PM (O848g)

360 It was hotter in Ventura today than Death Valley and Las Vegas

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura highway at October 23, 2017 09:48 PM (Bh6pi)

361 My hometown. Used to be a great blue collar town, until Section 8 housing, illegal Brazilians (the vanguard of the illegals), and cheap heroin. Big stronghold of the FSA, Best high school football team in the state though.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 23, 2017 09:38 PM (O5Q3r)

Went to school near there in the 80's - very Irish blue collar town. It was fine then...not so much now.

Seems lie 1/2 the town is a graveyard. I have a friend buried there (his family wanted him to have a view of the Squire...forever).

Posted by: The Gimp at October 23, 2017 09:48 PM (LVrfb)

362 358 Ok, this is just creepy. Guess what Refugee-ette did in phsyics class today?
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:46 PM (JyFLk)

Sexually harrass George Clooney?

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:48 PM (z/Ubi)

363 360 It was hotter in Ventura today than Death Valley and Las Vegas
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura highway at October 23, 2017 09:48 PM (Bh6pi)

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Global warming!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 23, 2017 09:48 PM (qUPFC)

364 I'll go with "built a nuclear bomb".

Posted by: Meremortal at October 23, 2017 09:48 PM (3myMJ)

365 Hey, uh, thanks for throwing me under the bus, buddy.

Posted by: Ben Assleck at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (7ulel)

366 They're talking about the first game in the WS being 100 degrees or more.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (6FqZa)

367 365 Hey, uh, thanks for throwing me under the bus, buddy.
Posted by: Ben Assleck at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (7ulel)

To be fair, Damon is far too stupid to know that is what he did.

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (z/Ubi)

368 It was hotter in Ventura today than Death Valley and Las Vegas

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura highway at October 23, 2017 09:48 PM (Bh6pi)

Santa Ana winds? Here's hoping there's no illegals with matches upwind of you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (O848g)

369 Pegged Matt Damon in the squeakhole?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (tbOMB)

370 359 Ok, this is just creepy. Guess what Refugee-ette did in phsyics class today?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:46 PM

Started a Foucault pendulum?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 23, 2017 09:50 PM (hyuyC)

371 9,
"No, they hold the specula. Matt Damon's godfather was Howard Zinn and his mother is full-fledged Marxist.
"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2017 07:45 PM (mbhDw)

Some perverts just come by their political perversion in the family way. Others think sucking on the bosses politics is the way to a better job And then there are those who just allow themselves to be raped to not be thrown out of the club and its usual comforts cause it's just this one time and no one gonna get hurt too bad.

Posted by: geoffb at October 23, 2017 09:51 PM (zOpu5)

372 369 Pegged Matt Damon in the squeakhole?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (tbOMB)

Matt DaaamooOOOOONNNNNN!!!!

Posted by: Matt Damon at October 23, 2017 09:51 PM (NWiLs)

373 My bad, more "weird coincidence" than all the truly creepy stuff going on.

I had never heard of that bowling ball demo, then she shows me the video, and then it shows up as a mini-topic here.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:51 PM (JyFLk)

374 Santa Ana winds? Here's hoping there's no illegals with matches upwind of you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 09:49 PM (O848g)

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Only a small minority start massive conflagrations that leave thousands homeless. That's just the price we pay for the blessings of diversity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 23, 2017 09:52 PM (qUPFC)

375 Yep, The old Santa Ana wind

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura highway at October 23, 2017 09:52 PM (Bh6pi)

376 I saw a short interview with Tony Goldwyn. Yep, related to the giants of the golden age of movie studios. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.

He said he had a casting couch encounter at 19 yo on one of his first interviews. He was young and confused and then when it dawned on him, he got out of there. He said it took him years to get over. The same things the women feel...guilt, shame, self-doubt (did I do something?) Just the "almost" took that big a toll.

Clooney, Damon & Affleck are thick as thieves. Then there are the movies they did with Pitt. To ask me to believe they were that much in the dark about a 25 yo open secret is insulting. What crap weasels. And Clooney, Mr. Sanctimonious, is a special kind of jackwagon to be lecturing the country on values. What a slimebucket.

There are heros in this sordid story. But the 3 asses of the Apocalypse are not them.

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 23, 2017 09:53 PM (rbgPC)

377 373 My bad, more "weird coincidence" than all the truly creepy stuff going on.

I had never heard of that bowling ball demo, then she shows me the video, and then it shows up as a mini-topic here.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:51 PM (JyFLk)

There's a term for that sort of thing isn't there?

Such as never hearing a word or phrase before, and then you hear it like 3 days straight from different places.

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:53 PM (z/Ubi)

378 the only places I ever liked in cali were the beaches and the mountains.

in between? Meh.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 23, 2017 09:54 PM (vhXcf)

379 375 Yep, The old Santa Ana wind
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura highway at October 23, 2017 09:52 PM (Bh6pi)

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Look, all we had to feed the POWs were beans.

Posted by: Sam Houston at October 23, 2017 09:54 PM (gC2IV)

380 This Damon Affleck thing is also not good for Jimmy Kimmel, the other sanctimonious bastard in this country. He closes every show with Matt Damon's name. Hah.

Posted by: Professor Chaos aka gumdrop gorilla at October 23, 2017 09:55 PM (rbgPC)

381 Baader-Meinhof.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:55 PM (tbOMB)

382 I had never heard of that bowling ball demo, then she shows me the video, and then it shows up as a mini-topic here.

Well, I just thought it was interesting, is all. Hoped you wouldn't mind.

Posted by: Bob @ NSA at October 23, 2017 09:56 PM (7ulel)

383 Know how there's one (1) Howard Johnson's restaurant left in the whole world, in Lake George NY?

Think there's one in Brattleboro VT

Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 09:56 PM (RhWew)

384 Coolest physics demo I saw was a standing wave, dissipating, in a circular fountain after an earthquake.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:58 PM (tbOMB)

385 381 Baader-Meinhof.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:55 PM (tbOMB)

Yeah that.

Now someone who's never seen that before will notice it being referenced several times over the next week.

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:58 PM (z/Ubi)

386 Oh dear, am I gonna go all militant German Left Winger now?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:59 PM (JyFLk)

387 Went to school near there in the 80's - very Irish blue collar town. It was fine then...not so much now.

Seems lie 1/2 the town is a graveyard. I have a friend buried there
(his family wanted him to have a view of the Squire...forever).

3 big cemeteries here. Was a great place to grow up, blue collar Italian/Irish. Everybody knew each other. Then it became an example of what Democrats want all of America to be, a third world welfare shit hole. Still has some decent neighborhoods though. Fortunately, I'm in one of them.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 23, 2017 09:59 PM (O5Q3r)

388 386 Oh dear, am I gonna go all militant German Left Winger now?
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:59 PM (JyFLk)

One of the other definitions of it.

Posted by: buzzion at October 23, 2017 09:59 PM (z/Ubi)

389 Coolest physics demo I saw was a standing wave, dissipating, in a circular fountain after an earthquake.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:58 PM (tbOMB)

If the fountain had been full of naked wimmenz bathing, you would have experienced a poonami.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 23, 2017 10:00 PM (O848g)

390 381 Baader-Meinhof.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 23, 2017 09:55 PM (tbOMB)

Now that's complex.

Posted by: Insomniac - Frustrated and Alienated at October 23, 2017 10:02 PM (NWiLs)

391 So, if you are a rich liberal, rape simply becomes non-consensual sexual behavior. I wonder if old joe sixpack down the street could get away with that.

Posted by: Timothy at October 23, 2017 10:02 PM (VWJmb)

392 *ONT is NOOD!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Baseball Nut at October 23, 2017 10:02 PM (Ckg4U)

393 You can't win if you ain't in.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 23, 2017 09:28 PM (FUu/Z)

Nope.

A small fraction of the total tickets sold are lost.

So there is a non-zero chance that you can find the winning ticket.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 23, 2017 10:04 PM (wYseH)

394 EVERYONE IS COMPLICIT!

Except me, I didn't know nuthin'.

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2017 10:05 PM (Kwhm/)

395 Think there's one in Brattleboro VT

Posted by: riktheYFITB

Watchers claim it became a pizza shoppe in 2015.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 23, 2017 10:06 PM (H5rtT)

396 Rose McGowan and Gwyneth P "handled " it and "came to an understanding".

In other words, Damon and Clooney, you hypocrite f**ks, they kept their mouths shut about sexual harassment of themselves and others.
So, it's okay as long as people like you still get to be rich and famous.

That's your definition of "handling" it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 23, 2017 10:07 PM (+lVUW)

397 I had never heard of that bowling ball demo, then she shows me the video, and then it shows up as a mini-topic here.
Posted by: 2009Refugee
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Yeah, I've had that happen here. Some kind of weird cosmic intersection. I was waiting for The Twilight Zone theme to start playing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 23, 2017 10:07 PM (w1zJX)

398 @397 You don't get the weird proto-French psychoname for the experience until you actually string up the bowling ball, based on three reports in one day of how much you're going to learn about the Human Condition, and that sumbitch smacks you a good one.

Then there is a name for the endless sring of explanations of that gravitational anomaly, how common they really are, what Richer number that one would get in California, and a god damned haiku about the stars you're seeing.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 23, 2017 10:12 PM (H5rtT)

399 395 Think there's one in Brattleboro VT

Posted by: riktheYFITB

Watchers claim it became a pizza shoppe in 2015.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 23, 2017 10:06 PM (H5rtT)

Never went in, just drove by. Probably my fault

Posted by: riktheYFITB at October 23, 2017 10:13 PM (RhWew)

400 Matt Damon's godfather was Howard Zinn and his mother is full-fledged Marxist.
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 23, 2017 07:45 PM (mbhDw)

His godfather - the person entrusted with raising him as a Christian - was a Jew? And chosen by a Marxist, i.e., an atheist? WTF?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 10:13 PM (YqDXo)

401 I had never heard of that bowling ball demo, then she shows me the video, and then it shows up as a mini-topic here.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 23, 2017 09:51 PM (JyFLk)

In fairness, it's a classic of the genre, the genre here being lecture demonstrations. Its point is twofold: 1) conservation of momentum, and 2) don't trust intuition.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 23, 2017 10:15 PM (YqDXo)

402 Hypothesis: Matt Damon portrayed Jason Bourne so brilliantly because he is in fact a remorseless and trainable blank slate. It would hardly be a shock for an actor to be a narcissist, but what if he's also a sociopath?

Posted by: SciVo at October 23, 2017 10:19 PM (aP+xG)

403 @399 It's not as if anyone after/i] WWII went to a HoJo's on purpose, but I'm a little tetchy about my local one right now -- after it was "that place" that people went for dinner After Church twice a year, it had a full long life as a pancake house, first as the Original franchise, then the owner bought it out, and "stayed well" right to retirement.

Unfortunately, so many other regional-chain breakfast places had come along, nobody would make the investment to turn-key the place, so it got vacated, and a jerk thought what the hell there's nothing to it, running it right into the ground as a neighborhood bar with dinner, even though everything was in his favor.

So it's about to come down, with its terrazzo "Simple Simon and The Pieman" logo in the front lobby not worn one whit after, I reckon, 63 years. And the lot will go to a Dollar General even though it is about half a mile from the next Dollar General. This is how we live now.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 23, 2017 10:23 PM (H5rtT)

404 N**** the Valiant was courting a young vintage jazz singer (whom he'd known since she was 14). He attended a Hollywood party where a celeb made obscene remarks about said girl's then 15 year old sister. N**** the Valiant (AF 2LT)made his intention known to set the miscreant ( think The Rifleman) straight. The father involved set N**** the Valiant down, saying it was HIS duty. He did nothing. Courtship ended that week.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at October 23, 2017 11:13 PM (w7U7L)

405 My Give-A-Shit Meter is still at 0.00.
Sounds like he used some unique pickup lines that worked because the babes thought they could get something out of it.
Don't blame the guy for for the lines; blame yourself for falling for them.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 24, 2017 12:27 AM (QMwOT)

406 Tapped out before I read it. I don't need to read the story to know they're all creeps. Tney are liberals aren't they?

Posted by: BJ54 at October 24, 2017 08:48 AM (Bed/U)

407 "Let me know at which point you tapped out."

Two weeks ago.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at October 24, 2017 02:07 PM (jWe5r)

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