Bowe Bergdahl Admits to Desertion and Misbehavior Before the Enemy

Obama traded five hardcore Taliban/Al Qaeda terrorists to free a deserter whose actions killed his former squadmates.

Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl told a military judge on Monday that he's pleading guilty to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy.
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Bergdahl, 31, is accused of endangering his comrades by abandoning his post without authorization. He told a general after his release from five years in enemy hands that he did it with the intention of reaching other commanders and drawing attention to what he saw as problems with his unit.
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This indicates that they did not reach a deal to limit his punishment, and that he may be hoping for leniency from the judge, Army Col. Jeffery R. Nance. The misbehavior charge carries a maximum penalty of life in prison, while the desertion charge is punishable by up to five years.

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1 It's a start.

Posted by: weew at October 16, 2017 03:36 PM (EaEMG)

2 nd

Posted by: weew at October 16, 2017 03:36 PM (EaEMG)

3 Life in military prison?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2017 03:37 PM (W+vEI)

4 here

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2017 03:37 PM (FZYNt)

5 Shoot him.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 16, 2017 03:38 PM (O5Q3r)

6 oh how I miss the Shit Midas Touch

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2017 03:38 PM (FZYNt)

7 >>drawing attention to what he saw as problems with his unit.

Riiiiight.
Physician, heal thy self.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2017 03:38 PM (W+vEI)

8 Treason it is. Obama is a lying traitor.

Posted by: pamaxon at October 16, 2017 03:39 PM (KgceO)

9 Susan Rice: Bergdahl served the United States with honor and distinction

Will that get any play today???

Posted by: Lurker primus at October 16, 2017 03:39 PM (yBgqh)

10 they sure banged the table with the whole "leave no man behind" sanctimony.

Some things tend to tell me obama's a traitor who hates america. And things like Bowe tells me he really fucking hates this country.

Posted by: this is how you get more trump at October 16, 2017 03:39 PM (RDd1I)

11 CShoot him.

Fixed.

Posted by: Troy Landry at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (HtLSE)

12 Wait, Obama said he was a patriot and served with honor?

Oh, he was talking about the five Gitmo high valued terrorists he released in exchange for Bergdahl.

Easy mistake.

Posted by: WisRich at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (G0vdT)

13 There were a lot of things that Obama did that you really can't come to any other conclusion than the man simply hated America and also had some weird camaraderie with Muslim extremists. See also airlifting hundreds of millions in cash to Iran as another example. Or wanting a mosque built where the WTC went down on 9/11.

I used to roll my eyes when conservatives would make the charge that Obama was a closet Muslim, but I really don't think that's such a crazy charge anymore.

Posted by: Maritime at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (G/kZc)

14 Remember this guy? I always wondered if he was right about lots of POWs left behind there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R._Garwood

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (ujg0T)

15 >>drawing attention to what he saw as problems with his unit.
...........

Couldn't get it up?

Posted by: wth at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (HgMAr)

16 Obama traded five hardcore Taliban/Al Qaeda terrorists to free a deserter whose actions killed his former squadmates.
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In before Obama's Suicide Squad kills again.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (2wRtc)

17 Isn't desertion potentially a capital offense under the UCMJ?

I'm not trolling or snarking, I'm too lazy to bing it and the Horde knows all.

So much of the all.

All of the things.

About everything.

*rocks in corner*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

18 Remember the fucking spectacle in the Rose Garden with Barry and this loser's loser parents?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (vg8iE)

19 now was the "deal" an attempt to empty out gitmo without having to close it close it? Or was it an attempt to aid the enemy.

This is where I have been frequently told to embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: this is how you get more trump at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (RDd1I)

20 Can we now claw back the over $300K he got as back pay while he was "incarcerated"?

Posted by: Sidedraft at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (I16G8)

21 Isn't desertion potentially a capital offense under the UCMJ?
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Sure is, particularly in wartime.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2017 03:41 PM (vg8iE)

22 Just discharge him in Texas and see what happens.

Posted by: Pudding Head at October 16, 2017 03:41 PM (YV+SU)

23 The misbehavior charge carries a maximum penalty of life in prison, while the desertion charge is punishable by up to five years.

Settle for death by firing squad.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2017 03:41 PM (RRfF8)

24
Ha! I was thiiiiissss close to violating my "no whining" rule and openly suggest a Bergdahl thread on the last Weinstein thread. Great minds think alike, and all that, I guess.

With what - 6 KIAs directly attributable to Bergdahl's actions? - I cannot see how the judge can give anything other than life in the slammer.

Oh wait - it's 2017, and we are now a country where the worthy, righteous, productive, and reasonable struggle to keep one nostril above water while the entire mass of rotted institutions, collapsed standards, and moral decay pull them down into the abyss.

Still, here's to hoping.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2017 03:41 PM (QDnY+)

25 And he can spend his sentence in Gitmo filling up some of the empty cells there.

Posted by: DaveD at October 16, 2017 03:41 PM (P5fqQ)

26
Riiiiight.
Physician, heal thy self.

You gotta admit, he was right. His unit had fucking Bowe Bergdahl in it. If that's not a problem I don't know what is.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 03:41 PM (HtLSE)

27 Bergdahl

Helicopter

Some disassembly required.

Saves the cost of room, board, and a bullet.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 16, 2017 03:42 PM (4df7R)

28 Remember the fucking spectacle in the Rose Garden with Barry and this loser's loser parents?
+++++++++
he actually did use the word terror once in the rose garden, candy.

Posted by: Witwickian Sage at October 16, 2017 03:42 PM (RDd1I)

29
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Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (m9X4Y)

30 Trump should bring the families of the soldier's Bergdahl killed to a Rose Garden ceremony.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (2wRtc)

31 Let him swing.

Posted by: fluffy at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (cHbmY)

32 Honor and distinction . . .

Susan Rice should be tarred, feathered and ridden out of the country on a rail.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (qc9kQ)

33 I doubt that he will get life in a bench trial. I would be surprised if he got ten years. The big thing I want is DD.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (6j03N)

34 I couldn't care less about Bergdolt. 5 terrorists returned to the struggle and my thumb in USA's eye? Winning!

Posted by: Barry O at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (pDCvh)

35 he isn't a Muslim but he belongs to that part of academia which views Christian America as an unfortunate holdover from a less enlightened time. he will stand with the Muslims.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (M2hjn)

36 I was in Sharana when that douche went over the wall...my most vivid memory was waiting in line for the 4th of July 'cookout' and watching 3 flag covered coffins being put in the back of an ambulance on the way to the air field. All thanks to him. Remember when they executed traitors ?

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (vmsda)

37 Bergdahl was Barky either trying to fool the rubes into thinking he cared about the troops or else just a thumb in our eye. I tend to think the latter.

Anyway, here's hoping old Bowe rots in Leavenworth for the remainder of his days.

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (RD7QR)

38 Obama thinks he got pretty good return value

Posted by: Mega at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (ItIzi)

39 33 I doubt that he will get life in a bench trial. I would be surprised if he got ten years. The big thing I want is DD.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

34DD?

last thread

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2017 03:44 PM (FZYNt)

40 we all want DDs...

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 16, 2017 03:44 PM (M2hjn)

41 Isn't desertion potentially a capital offense under the UCMJ?

I am going to pull a guess out of my ass and say the weenie sentence for desertion is based on peacetime desertion, which is... obviously less serious. There may be a more severe form of the desertion charge, or that may be covered under the misbehavior charge...

which I kind of assume came along later as a catch-all because there are all kinds of things 2LT Slapnuts can do to get people killed in combat that aren't desertion and can be deliberate.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 03:44 PM (HtLSE)

42
Oh - and yes, however it's done, THIS is one of Obama's atrocities that really demands extensive review, reminding, ball-spiking, vitriol, vituperation, etc etc.

The Rose Garden insanity. The catastrophic, despicable prisoner exchange. All of it.

Alas, with only one very busy president and his twitter account, apparently, in the entire country to provide top-level, public figure action in this regard, another opportunity for punishment and education will be missed.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2017 03:45 PM (QDnY+)

43 Only 5 years for desertion and life for misbehavior?

That sounds reversed.

Desertion used to be max of death if in combat. (only general court could apply)

And a confession MAY indicate a deal. Why confess if you're going to get the max anyway?

The military wants this to go away because Bergdahl did have a point about things being done wrong. Just not the way to go about pointing it out.

Plus probably some drugs or mental aberration from being in the sandbox for so long under threat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 16, 2017 03:45 PM (xq6Dg)

44 They should have charged him with desertion under fire which carries the death penalty but Obama.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 16, 2017 03:45 PM (mpXpK)

45 now we need Clock Boy to admit it was a test run

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2017 03:45 PM (FZYNt)

46 May he serve his lengthy prison sentence with honor and distinction.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2017 03:45 PM (0ogQG)

47 If a radical muslim were in charge, would it look any different than Obama?

Posted by: meh at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (MBds8)

48 I want the good DDs that come in pairs.

I want Bergdahl to get the bad DD that comes by itself after a GCM.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (6j03N)

49
By all that is right, good and just, Bergdahl should be swinging from the wrong end of a rope.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (mbhDw)

50 Bergdahl. Winner. Rapone.

Gallows ain't cheap. Lumber costs are up with the hurricane rebuild.

Line 'em up. Three traitors, one bullet.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (2wRtc)

51 "Susan Rice should be tarred, feathered and ridden out of the country on a rail."

Honestly, I believe Susan Rice just did and said what Ben Rhodes told her to. He was the real evil POS (along with Valerie).

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (OD2ni)

52 Sh*tbird Hasan is still consuming oxygen.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (ctuyM)

53 "Saves the cost of room, board, and a bullet."

Actually, helicopters burn quite a lot of gas. The bullet would be much cheaper.

Posted by: Chris M at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (eAZVt)

54 is the guy that made the YouTube video seen the light of day yet?

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (FZYNt)

55 >>>Bergdahl did have a point about things being done wrong.

Oh, BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 03:47 PM (6j03N)

56
He served with honor and distinction!

Posted by: Susan Rice, serial liar at October 16, 2017 03:47 PM (9tO1t)

57 Under the prison does make Bowe a good boy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2017 03:47 PM (PaNfm)

58 handcuff him to Obama and give them a 24 hour head start.

Posted by: x at October 16, 2017 03:47 PM (nFwvY)

59 53. You use training flights. Combine errands, as it were.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 03:48 PM (fA1SL)

60 Honestly, I believe Susan Rice just did and said what Ben Rhodes told her to. He was the real evil POS (along with Valerie).
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By golly your right, I was being too selective.

Tar, feather and ride them ALL out of the country on a rail.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 03:48 PM (qc9kQ)

61 36 I was in Sharana when that douche went over the wall...my most vivid memory was waiting in line for the 4th of July 'cookout' and watching 3 flag covered coffins being put in the back of an ambulance on the way to the air field. All thanks to him. Remember when they executed traitors ?
Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (vmsda)

I don't know the details but I think Eddie Slovik got death for a lot worse than Bergdahl.

I'll let the experts here weigh in on each.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2017 03:48 PM (mbhDw)

62 The big thing I want is DD.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 03:43 PM (6j03N)

Yes me to...but if he rotted in jail for10 years that would be a plus

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 03:48 PM (5y11N)

63 Here's what we do Barry, we hold a reception in the Rose Garden for his parents. Make sure you hug his mother.

Posted by: ValJar at October 16, 2017 03:48 PM (9tO1t)

64 Sonobian overloads would have flayed and consumed his carcass by now.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2017 03:48 PM (WLK0w)

65 58 handcuff him to Obama and give them a 24 hour head start.
Posted by: x at October 16, 2017 03:47 PM (nFwvY)

They can share a seat on Aerolineas Pinochet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (mbhDw)

66 Firing squad. Or life in prison, at the minimum.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (tbOMB)

67 Honestly, I believe Susan Rice just did and said what Ben Rhodes told her to. He was the real evil POS (along with Valerie).

Then she is fuckin idiot...THAT was on of the stupidest things ever said in public as was bring this traitors parents to the Roses Garden

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (5y11N)

68
They should make a new Star Trek movie with the old cast.

Double Dumb Ass On You

oh that's right, the old cast is all dead

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (0JwE8)

69 27
Bergdahl

Helicopter

Some disassembly required.

Saves the cost of room, board, and a bullet.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In another time and place, that was called a 'dangler' ... just sayin' ...

Posted by: Dr_No at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (imDUY)

70 The last US soldier executed for desertion was Eddie Slovak in WWII. According to the wiki, no US soldier has been given more than 18 months in prison for desertion in the Iraq war.
That said, the judge could really nail him on the misbehavior before the enemy charge.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (gEvQ8)

71 >>>Posted by: Cu'Chulainn

Heh. Then you know which GO he thought he was going to go see and all the flaws in that thinking.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 03:50 PM (6j03N)

72 65. I stand by my calls for capes and streamers for daytime passengers, and flares for nighttime, because pretty.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 03:50 PM (fA1SL)

73 Honestly, I believe Susan Rice just did and said what Ben Rhodes told her to. He was the real evil POS (along with Valerie).
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You notice how easily that bitch lies though?

Posted by: Mega at October 16, 2017 03:50 PM (ItIzi)

74 "Misbehavior Before the Enemy"

Pffft, makes it sound like he scribbled crayons on the wall and talked back to the babysitter.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2017 03:50 PM (WLK0w)

75
Eddie Slovik

Hollywood made a movie, and Slovik was the innocent victim of events beyond his control

Berghdal would be a hero.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 16, 2017 03:50 PM (m9X4Y)

76 Oh, BULLSHIT.
Any legitimate complaint is invalidated by gross bad action, or in the words of Danny Butterman in Hot Fuzz, appointing oneself Judge Judy and Executioner.

Not to mention that the bad judgment he showed off *really* calls into question his judgment on other matters - like unit cohesion.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 03:51 PM (HtLSE)

77 >>>Obama traded five hardcore Taliban/Al Qaeda terrorists to free a deserter whose actions killed his former squadmates.

He was looking for an excuse to free the terrorists, because that's the kind of guy he is.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 16, 2017 03:51 PM (/qEW2)

78 72. Amended to include colored smokepots for daytime.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 03:51 PM (fA1SL)

79 Berghdal would be a hero.
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Berghdal will be a hero, that is if there is a Hollywood left to make him one.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 03:51 PM (1mw11)

80 Did his dad graduate his ponytail to manbun yet?

Posted by: wth at October 16, 2017 03:52 PM (HgMAr)

81 Settle for death by firing squad.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2017 03:41 PM (RRfF

Hang him, but otherwise agree.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 16, 2017 03:52 PM (kuFbc)

82 Obama may have been played by the military who just used Bergdahl to gain actionable intelligence. I could see some sneaky general enjoying putting bergdahl in jail and getting to shoot some jihadis with intel gained from the exchanges.

Posted by: Draki at October 16, 2017 03:52 PM (Y0byY)

83 Slovik's desertion was during a time of war.

Bowe because well they pass Resolutions now...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2017 03:52 PM (PaNfm)

84 Desertion only get you five years? Even when it cost the lives of your fellow soldiers who went looking for you?

Posted by: IC at October 16, 2017 03:52 PM (a0IVu)

85 Bowe Bergdahl who?

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at October 16, 2017 03:52 PM (O5Q3r)

86 50
Bergdahl. Winner. Rapone.

Gallows ain't cheap. Lumber costs are up with the hurricane rebuild.

Line 'em up. Three traitors, one bullet.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (2wRtc)/i]

In order from least damaging to most:

1 Winner2 Rapone
3 Bergdahl
Winner is an idiot Millennial valley girl.
Rapone is a vile Commie.
Bergdahl got men killed. He should get the bullet when it's been slowed down by the other two so it HURTS more.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 16, 2017 03:52 PM (4df7R)

87 Then she is fuckin idiot...THAT was on of the stupidest things ever said in public as was bring this traitors parents to the Roses Garden
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Why, it's as though they live in a Progressive bubble.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 16, 2017 03:53 PM (9tO1t)

88

Actually the maximum penalty is Death, but the prosecution must indicate they are seeking capital punishment at the time of charging, which the Army didnt do

I predict he will be reduced to the lowest rank, total forfietures and fines, a Dishonorable Discharge. Thats it. No time

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 03:53 PM (5hHHO)

89
Bergdahl. Winner. Rapone. Hasan.

fixed that for me.

Line them up ear hole to ear hole. One round saves the taxpayers about 10 million plus on lifetime incarceration costs.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 03:53 PM (2wRtc)

90 Hopefully, the Army can use this conviction as a catalyst to clean up enforcement of its standards.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 16, 2017 03:54 PM (ylUqT)

91 Anybody know what this movie coming out now is about?

'Thank you for your service" or something like that.

I get the feeling from the commercials it ain't gonna be American Sniper or Lone Survivor.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 16, 2017 03:54 PM (hS07U)

92

Bowe was during a time of war. They just chose not to pursue death p.

This ass will write a book

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 03:54 PM (5hHHO)

93 Did he admit to being an ISIS catamite?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 16, 2017 03:54 PM (hMwEB)

94 I predict he will be reduced to the lowest rank, total forfietures and fines, a Dishonorable Discharge. Thats it. No time
Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 03:53 PM (5hHHO)

Very possibly but I have a hunch he will get some time. A few years...at least I hope so. And it would be a shame if something happened to him in the Brig

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 03:54 PM (5y11N)

95 Oh, and Obama WRONG again.

BIRM

Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2017 03:54 PM (WLK0w)

96 Here's what we do Barry, we hold a reception in the Rose Garden for his parents. Make sure you hug his mother.

Posted by: ValJar at October 16, 2017 03:48 PM (9tO1t)
...............

Might explain all the flies.

Posted by: wth at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (HgMAr)

97 Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 03:51 PM (HtLSE)

How'd he originally become a sargeant?

he must've at some point been a sufficient leader and soldier.

that he finally failed in that unit says some thing about the unit.

Don't know what. We'll never know what. In the end he failed.

That's all we really know. His unit members sounded a bit rabid when interviewed. How does someone go from being recommended to be sargeant and passing the required tests/proficiency marks to being a total loser?

Something wrong in the unit somewhere, somehow. No excuse for Bergdahl though.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Back from the Dead) at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (xq6Dg)

98 Bergdahl got men killed. He should get the bullet when it's been slowed down by the other two so it HURTS more.
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I like this.

And Hasan goes dead last.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (2wRtc)

99 Did he admit to being an ISIS catamite?
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I believe they used to refer to him as the goat.

Not kidding.

the jihadi's that held him prisoner called him goat.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (IAu3Z)

100 Need more outrage?

Hillary calls her loss (Russian electioneering) a cyber 9/11.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (tbOMB)

101 If he goes to the Brig, I hope that fuck wad of a father goes with him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (5y11N)

102 OT, but it turns out Harvey Weinstein had a second career, in the US Marshalls office

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7ut837r

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (ylUqT)

103 Hassan, Winner, Bergdahl, and Rapone.

Outreach mission in Helmund Province. The Canadian Josh Boyle can help them.

I give it about a week.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (PaNfm)

104
Actually, helicopters burn quite a lot of gas. The bullet would be much cheaper.

Posted by: Chris M at October 16, 2017 03:46 PM (eAZVt)

Doesn't have to be a specially chartered helicopter. Next time you're taking one up for a supply run, or just for training maneuvers, sling Bowe in the back and then kick him out the cargo door when you've reached cruising altitude.

Two birds, one stone.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (4df7R)

105 Obama's legacy: 5 jihadis traded for a deserter traitor. Who he had a special party at the White House for.

How'd he originally become a sargeant?

he must've at some point been a sufficient leader and soldier.

Or he just put in the time without any major marks on his record.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2017 03:56 PM (39g3+)

106 Death by firing squad is reserved for those who have some shred of Honor.

Bergdahl has zero.

Traitors get the noose.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 16, 2017 03:56 PM (sf2BM)

107 I have nothing to say about Bergdahl. May God have mercy on his soul.

Posted by: grammie winger - Go Cubs Go at October 16, 2017 03:56 PM (DLIpz)

108 >>>How'd he originally become a sargeant?

He was a PFC in country 5 weeks when he ghosted. His promotions were done per policy on POWs. That rank will go, and it was not earned.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 03:57 PM (6j03N)

109 More than likely Gaylord's military promoted Bowe while he was playing goat for the enemy. Hence him being a Sgt.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2017 03:57 PM (PaNfm)

110 I like this.

And Hasan goes dead last.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (2wRtc)

Hasan should get the bullet hammered directly into his brain through his ear using a nail gun like a jackhammer.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at October 16, 2017 03:58 PM (4df7R)

111 Why is he still a Sargent? Didn't he get a rank promotion when he was released also. Talk about another slap in the face to his fellow soldiers.

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 16, 2017 03:58 PM (Uysai)

112 How does someone go from being recommended to be sargeant and passing the required tests/proficiency marks to being a total loser?

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Is this before Obama, or after?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 16, 2017 03:58 PM (m9X4Y)

113 If those 5 assholes had stayed in Afghanistan and we'd gotten out of it stably it'd've been worth it. But Jugears!

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2017 03:58 PM (FhXTo)

114 How'd he originally become a sargeant?

he must've at some point been a sufficient leader and soldier.

No he was an e-4 when he left, was awarded 5 while in custody. He was a problem from day 1 there. Not well liked and always complaining about something.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 16, 2017 03:58 PM (vmsda)

115 68
They should make a new Star Trek movie with the old cast.

Double Dumb Ass On You

oh that's right, the old cast is all dead
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (0JwE

Say my name.

Posted by: Not William Shatner at October 16, 2017 03:58 PM (FVLz6)

116 Cool I see that others have addressed the rank travesty.

Posted by: Time right before Mad Max at October 16, 2017 03:59 PM (Uysai)

117 First Class Asshole, more like

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 16, 2017 03:59 PM (M2hjn)

118
41 Isn't desertion potentially a capital offense under the UCMJ?

I am going to pull a guess out of my ass and say the weenie sentence for desertion is based on peacetime desertion, which is... obviously less serious. There may be a more severe form of the desertion charge, or that may be covered under the misbehavior charge...

which I kind of assume came along later as a catch-all because there are all kinds of things 2LT Slapnuts can do to get people killed in combat that aren't desertion and can be deliberate.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 03:44 PM (HtLSE)

UCMJ Article 85 (c)

Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.

I don't see shit about "up to 5 years" for a peacetime desertion conviction, which is what Yahoo is implying.

In other words, the bullshit Yahoo article gets it wrong. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2017 03:59 PM (veoSD)

119 "You notice how easily that bitch lies though?
Posted by: Mega"

Yup. She is dumb and a true believer. Probably believes lying for "the cause" is ok. Like a Scientologist.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 16, 2017 03:59 PM (OD2ni)

120 gimmie 4 wooden tent stakes, a roll of engineer's tape, a gallon bottle of cheap pancake syrup, and a nice spot equidistant to two different fire ant colonies.

just stake the scumbag out, douse him in syrup, and leave a trail back to both hills, stir up the nests and walk away.

Mother Nature will do the rest.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 16, 2017 04:00 PM (zlD4P)

121 He's so dreamy and definitely one of my personal heroes in his actions.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at October 16, 2017 04:00 PM (6SvnM)

122 Pity that firing squads are out of fashion.

Posted by: dagny at October 16, 2017 04:00 PM (6oU5/)

123 >>>No he was an e-4 when he left, was awarded 5 while in custody. He was a problem from day 1 there. Not well liked and always complaining about something.

PFC. he did not make E4 until 2010. Automatic like his E5 since he was in captivity.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:00 PM (6j03N)

124

Im sure he has asked for sentencing by judge alone. Judgr will consider his time in captivity and not give him time

Altho, I think he cried when he had to say goodbye

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:00 PM (5hHHO)

125 How'd he originally become a sargeant?

he must've at some point been a sufficient leader and soldier.

that he finally failed in that unit says some thing about the unit.

Don't know what. We'll never know what. In the end he failed.

Well, he was a sergeant in the malaise military. As we've seen, simply being sufficiently driven is probably enough, (*cough, Rapone*). Dovetails perfectly well with him being tightly wound but kind of off-putting and screwy, and sometimes the clockspring breaks. Without a jar from outside the movement.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 04:00 PM (HtLSE)

126 Kirk, Chekov, and Sulu in Star Trek: An Iota of Trouble

Kirk, "You see the Iotians are causing trouble. So the Federation wants us to settle things."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2017 04:00 PM (PaNfm)

127
Traitors get the noose.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois
====

Tim!

I would rather see the lumber go to rebuild Houston and Tallahassee.

We could go the Texas Ranger route and set them on horses, tie the rope off to a rock and their necks and fire a pistol.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (2wRtc)

128 They should make a new Star Trek movie with the old cast.

Double Dumb Ass On You

oh that's right, the old cast is all dead

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 16, 2017 03:49 PM (0JwE

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Not all.

Which reminds me - yesterday I watched a new WB cartoon movie - Batman Vs. Two-Face.

It was made as if it were the 1960s series, except animated. It starred Adam West, Burt Ward, Julie Newmar and William Shatner as Two-Face. The best part was, he was drawn like William Shatner looked in 1966.

It really was a fun cartoon. Must have been the last voice work Adam West did before his death. He sounded old.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (vg8iE)

129 Brand his cheek with a capital "D". Like John Riley.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (6OfIz)

130 I don't see shit about "up to 5 years" for a peacetime desertion conviction, which is what Yahoo is implying.

In other words, the bullshit Yahoo article gets it wrong. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2017 03:59 PM (veoSD)

It's up to 5 years if you use an AK-16 with a 30 mag clip. Everyone knows that.

Posted by: Not Samuel Colt at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (FVLz6)

131 >>>>>
I doubt that he will get life in a bench trial. I would be surprised if he got ten years. The big thing I want is DD.
.
.
.Pretty sure that is automatic in this case.

When I was in the Navy on Active Duty and after I retired and took up my old job as a Civilian, I kept a single Dishonorable Discharge Certificate in my desk hoping I would get to use it someday. Never got the chance, the worst I ever got to sign was a Bad conduct Discharge.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (+Dllb)

132 My friendsh, you have nothing to fear with Traitor McAssraped as your new Senator.

Posted by: McLame at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (tbOMB)

133 Can't they just shoot him?

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (NWiLs)

134 and let's do the same to Hassan.

why is that POS even still alive at this point in time?

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (zlD4P)

135 75
Eddie Slovik

Hollywood made a movie, and Slovik was the innocent victim of events beyond his control

Berghdal would be a hero.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 16, 2017 03:50 PM (m9X4Y)

IIRC, Slovik wrote down his desertion plan, was even given the offer to destroy the document when he was found. Slovik refused.

IIRC, there were thousands of other deserters in the war, according to historian Stephen Ambrose in "Citizen Soldiers", but they pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of being AWOL. Their situations ranged from taking up with local French or Belgian women, to some hunter and trapper types trying to avoid the war and live off the land in the woods until the war ended.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 16, 2017 04:02 PM (ujg0T)

136 PFC. he did not make E4 until 2010. Automatic like his E5 since he was in captivity.

hmm, I thought Spec. 4...but its been a lot of whiskey bottles since then.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 16, 2017 04:02 PM (vmsda)

137 He never should have been accepted into the Army in the first place. He was mentally unfit. He'd already been booted out of the Coast Guard.

Does not excuse his actions. Just saying that the Army has no standards -- which is also how that commie, Che-loving, "f*ck America" shitbird Rapone graduated West Point and was awarded a commission. Because the Army has no standards.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2017 04:02 PM (BXf9o)

138 When he did his little walkabout he had maybe a year TIS. I am disappoint in Horde knowledges on this POS, but maybe I am following a little closer for reasons like Cu.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:02 PM (6j03N)

139 ...or what BSG said, not a sergeant except due to buggery of the system in his favor.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 04:02 PM (HtLSE)

140 Princess needs two in the tiara.

Posted by: regular joe at October 16, 2017 04:03 PM (O50yS)

141 Understand that Westpoint wanted to get rid of the communist and his muslim professor mentor but Obama. Got rid of the muslim and now working on the communist.

Posted by: dagny at October 16, 2017 04:03 PM (6oU5/)

142 we all want DDs...
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 16, 2017 03:44 PM (M2hjn)

*attempts to wrangle The Rack into submission*

No. Not so much.

Dad update: Mommy called and said he was doing great today. They did two hours of PT this morning and he did what they said and he was walking better than she's seen him in months. She sounded much better than she's been sounding so that was very good.

Also, this is good because when I left there yesterday after taking church to him (our church livestreams and hey the rehab place has wifi), I was about to strangle him with a bed sheet. I may or may not have yelled I AM NOT YOUR SERVANT as I stomped down the hall to get him a Cheerwine from the machine and then stopped to get ice and a new cup BUT I HAVE MY OWN FREE WILL DAD! I'M NOT JUST YOUR SERVANT DAD! I'M LEAVING NOW DAD! Okay you have the remote and here's the list of what games are on what channel and do you have your Cheerwine and I plugged the phone in to charge and I do not spoil him, Mommy lies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 16, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)

143
Star Trek was a unique, one-time thing., A product of its time, a product of that generation; never to be replicated as numerous sequels have demonstrated.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 16, 2017 04:03 PM (m9X4Y)

144 Life in prison just cost the DOD money, shoot him and get it over.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 16, 2017 04:04 PM (0OmEj)

145 OT, but it turns out Harvey Weinstein had a second career, in the US Marshalls office

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7ut837r

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 16, 2017 03:55 PM (ylUqT)

***
Sexual favors for a parking spot??
From what planet are the women from and why don't they work in my building??

Posted by: dananjcon at October 16, 2017 04:04 PM (WLK0w)

146
This indicates that they did not reach a deal to limit his punishment, and that he may be hoping for leniency from the judge, Army Col. Jeffery R. Nance.

*polite cough*

How did Col. Nance achieve his rank? Superb leadership skills and valor in combat? Or box-checking and brown-nosing? Can't tell nowadays.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2017 04:04 PM (BWL+E)

147 DD is usually for rape and murder

But he should get one. I think he will

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:04 PM (5hHHO)

148 Well, he was a sergeant in the malaise military. As we've seen, simply being sufficiently driven is probably enough,
---
as mentioned above, his promotions were automagic while a "prisoner"...

ha d he not deserted, he'd have been lucky to make Specialist.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 16, 2017 04:04 PM (zlD4P)

149 Line them up ear hole to ear hole.

Human centipede, 50 cal - or does cruel and unusual apply to the Army also?

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2017 04:04 PM (FhXTo)

150 I can write him while he's in the big house, can't i?

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at October 16, 2017 04:05 PM (oGRue)

151 I sentence you to the dying days of the next Democratic administration.

Posted by: Col. Jeffery R. Nance at October 16, 2017 04:05 PM (Jbilr)

152 .50cal can only be used in an anti-material role.

So aim for the belftbuckle.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 16, 2017 04:05 PM (PaNfm)

153 I can write him while he's in the big house, can't i?
Posted by: Chelsea Manning at October 16, 2017 04:05 PM (oGRue)

Heh, they probably still allow for congugal visits.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (vmsda)

154

Yahoo is stupid AF

Not asking for death, which they wouldnt get anyway, is the deal

The prosecution doesnt need a deal here

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (5hHHO)

155 Hilary, please run again in 2020.

Posted by: President Donald J. Trump President, Bitch at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (SkuXa)

156 "40 we all want DDs..."

Is this referring to Milana Vayntrub?

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (OD2ni)

157 155 Hilary, please run again in 2020.
Posted by: President Donald J. Trump President, Bitch at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (SkuXa)

=============

"It's my turn!"
-Hillary

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (mC1ZI)

158 There are dozens of Enemy Combatants still alive in GITMO. Give him a Cadillac and send him on his way.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (mcI77)

159 Fry him.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 16, 2017 04:06 PM (Vevy5)

160 Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 04:01 PM (2wRtc)

They could use scrap wood from Houston Reconstruction and fashion a noose out of water logged clothing also.

See? Environmental friendly recycling! With the added bonus of Justice.

Remind to stay on your good side and stay away from those Texas Rangers with Badges.

I hear they don't like us Yankees.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at October 16, 2017 04:07 PM (sf2BM)

161
This ass will write a book
Posted by: ThunderB
-

Movie

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 16, 2017 04:07 PM (nBBdT)

162 This ass will write a book
Posted by: ThunderB
-

Movie
==
Hollywood delenda est.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 04:08 PM (Ru8Sc)

163 Listened to NPR's Serial Podcast last year. That was all about Bowe Bergdahl.

Give credit where it's due. It was NPR and all that implies. But it was very open-eyed at the cost of life and operational goals which were run up by his walkabout and the subsequent search. They portrayed him as obviously not a hero, but not a defector, either. They implied he was someone who wasn't mentally up to the task of being a frontline infantryman.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at October 16, 2017 04:08 PM (uOWNd)

164 OT: #Failifornia fires started by Mexican drug cartels?

story with multiple outside links over at GP... only posting about it because of the links.

GP is kinda like "4chan lite"

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 16, 2017 04:08 PM (zlD4P)

165 Doesn't have to be a specially chartered helicopter. Next time you're taking one up for a supply run, or just for training maneuvers, sling Bowe in the back and then kick him out the cargo door when you've reached cruising altitude.

Isn't that littering?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 16, 2017 04:08 PM (IcT7t)

166 142 . . . and I plugged the phone in to charge and I do not spoil him, Mommy lies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 16, 2017 04:03 PM (mf5HN)

You're a good daughter, he's lucky to have you (and you to have him).

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 16, 2017 04:08 PM (tu3iY)

167 >>>How did Col. Nance achieve his rank? Superb leadership skills and valor in combat? Or box-checking and brown-nosing? Can't tell nowadays.

Here come the cunspiwacy kooks!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:09 PM (6j03N)

168 .50cal can only be used in an anti-material role.

So aim for the belftbuckle.
Posted by: Anna Puma
-------------

Always the pragmatist, our Anna is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 16, 2017 04:09 PM (nBBdT)

169 Judd Legum with the #hottake:

Did Sergeant Bergdahl desert the Army or did the Army desert him?

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/474923123977244672

These people have no souls, do they?

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 16, 2017 04:09 PM (Bl5Zt)

170 "Star Trek was a unique, one-time thing., A product of its time, a product of that generation; never to be replicated as numerous sequels have demonstrated.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse"

Agreed. It was a perfect storm of 60's awesomeness led by Shatner. I feel the same about the Star Wars trilogy.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 16, 2017 04:09 PM (OD2ni)

171 One reason I personally would like to see "civilian" intelligence agencies brought under the military is at least there is some semblance of justice for people that go off the reservation in the military.

These deep state operatives in the NSA and CIA that engage in things like leaks that endanger national security don't even get a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: Maritime at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (G/kZc)

172 This ass will write a book
Posted by: ThunderB
-

Part of the sentence should be he can't profit from his treason.

And I wish someone has already shot him but as I understand he is guarded 24-7

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (5y11N)

173 Okay you have the remote and here's the list of
what games are on what channel and do you have your Cheerwine and I
plugged the phone in to charge and I do not spoil him, Mommy lies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around.
===

It's so funny. We start helpless and weak and dependent on our parents. He's lucky to have you. I'm positive that he thinks that that very thought all the time.

Note to self: be nicer to kids.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (2wRtc)

174 165 Doesn't have to be a specially chartered helicopter. Next time you're taking one up for a supply run, or just for training maneuvers, sling Bowe in the back and then kick him out the cargo door when you've reached cruising altitude.

Isn't that littering?

Not if you secure him by a ten foot rope tied about his neck before he exits the airframe.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (0OmEj)

175
We could go the Texas Ranger route and set them on horses, tie the rope off to a rock and their necks and fire a pistol.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017
*
*
I guess the Rangers sometimes had to do that. Not many trees in the emptier parts of West Texas.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (HQMII)

176 Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??

Posted by: kraken at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (zSVEm)

177 165. Nope. Aerial composting.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (fA1SL)

178 30 lashes with a wet noodle!

Posted by: Col. Nancy at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (HgMAr)

179 They implied he was someone who wasn't mentally up to the task of being a frontline infantryman.
Posted by: Leo Spaceman
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In many ways, this is the story of Barack Obama.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 16, 2017 04:11 PM (nBBdT)

180 It's amazing how she can so cheerfully relate her toe break as evidence of her high impact high energy lifestyle.

Posted by: SarahW at October 16, 2017 04:11 PM (Sp1NT)

181
I hear they don't like us Yankees.
===

The Republic of Texas had no dog in that Civil fight.

Comanches, however...

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 04:12 PM (2wRtc)

182 so this guy hoped to be the next john Kerry. Heck the left even the Left president holds all these psychos up as the ideal to be nurtured all across America.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2017 04:12 PM (FKrah)

183 Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??
Posted by: kraken
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OM has been absent a couple of days. Many of us are very concerned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 16, 2017 04:12 PM (nBBdT)

184 I'M NOT JUST YOUR SERVANT DAD!

Sometimes it's hard to remember they used to push your bicycle.
Other times they get reminded that if they don't like how a 40 year old mops the floor they can do it themselves.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2017 04:12 PM (FhXTo)

185 It's amazing how she can so cheerfully relate her toe break as evidence of her high impact high energy lifestyle.
===========
because otherwise its just an old lady falling down the steps.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 04:12 PM (M71+F)

186 Give credit where it's due. It was NPR and all that implies. But it was very open-eyed at the cost of life and operational goals which were run up by his walkabout and the subsequent search. They portrayed him as obviously not a hero, but not a defector, either. They implied he was someone who wasn't mentally up to the task of being a frontline infantryman.
Posted by: Leo Spaceman

"I don't like it here, and my playmates are mean. I'll go see if the enemy is better. "

And they call us Marines dumb.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2017 04:12 PM (326rv)

187 Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??
========

It's that he often times is too quick to jump on something that he believes is a "scoop" but it comes off as National Enquirer-lite.

I read over there all the time. I've met Jim Hoft in person as well. Very interesting guy - kinda goofy, but smart and nice.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2017 04:13 PM (vg8iE)

188
Y'all sound like you could use some good news.

Welp. Here we go-

In Jackson, Mississippi there is a restaurant that serves-

Pork Belly Corn Dogs.

Yep. That's right.

Just let that sink in for a minute...

Pork.

Belly.

Corn.

Dogs.

And they are larrupin'.

Now, don't you feel better?

Posted by: naturalfake at October 16, 2017 04:13 PM (NyJwR)

189 "176 Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??"

Can't speak for others, but I think GP is untrustworthy garbage. Feel the same about Drudge these days.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (OD2ni)

190 176
Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??

Posted by: kraken at October 16, 2017 04:10 PM (zSVEm)

Hoft is quick on the gun to be firstest with the mostest. That leaves little time to fact check, and as a result, people have been left looking foolish by not checking themselves before sharing. BTDT.

Also, his headlines are a little clickbaity, and do not necessarily always capture a fair reading of events.

Still, I like and cite TGP, because of the breaking news stuff. You just have to use your own fact-check gaydar before spreading it around.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (tbOMB)

191

He didnt give a statement of fact with his plea, there is no deal on sentence then

Prosecution doesnt need it. And I bet HIS lawyers are having a tough time getting him to admit the elements of the offense

He was charged with and pled guilty to Desertion, not AWOL. He had to intend to stay permanently away. As in forever. Yet he seems to be denying intent.

Misbehavior also has an intent requirement,

The client is squirelly and still denying intent, and responsibility

Hes gonna piss that judge off. Thats the only way he will get time

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (5hHHO)

192 I don't like it here, and my playmates are mean. I'll go see if the enemy is better. "
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The enemy treated him like a goat.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (kIsN6)

193 You're a good daughter, he's lucky to have you (and you to have him).
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 16, 2017 04:08 PM (tu3iY)

I'm adopted. I tell people I will never win the lottery because I already did.

I'm not joking at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (mf5HN)

194 Star Trek was a unique, one-time thing., A product of its time, a product of that generation; never to be replicated as numerous sequels have demonstrated.

I think you could, but you'd need to go back to the original blueprint. Take great character actors with a strong, charismatic lead. Give the writing to smart, interesting sci fi authors. Make the show a Twilight Zone in space mixed with a WW2 Submarine drama. Keep the tech limited, so they can't jargon their way out of trouble. Focus on great, memorable characters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (39g3+)

195
ThunderB, I am gobsmacked that someone whose behavior led directly to multiple KIAs could be walking free. Is there a long or life imprisonment option available under the misbehavior charge? Many here are excited about a DD, but that will rightly carry far less weight in this society, with most people. Do people think this is 1950, or something? Look around.

The separate issue of the outrageous and almost certainly blood-soaked prisoner trade is something that some public figure should take on, but as noted above, we are a country without public figures of any stature, responsibility, or courage. Once the sentence is given, undue command influence becomes a moot issue (correct?), so denouncing one of the worst things done by Obama should be a task energetically embraced by someone.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (QDnY+)

196 In the past 5 minutes:

-Bowe Bergdahl, who was aided by Obama,and hailed as a hero of sorts, pleads guilty of desertion.

-Heard Hilary called a "beacon of feminism" in an interview

-Heard Hilary compare Trump to Weinstein, who she "really didn't know that well"

You truly cannot make this stuff up. The left are mad as hatters.

Posted by: RM at October 16, 2017 04:14 PM (U3LtS)

197 >>>>He never should have been accepted into the Army in the first place. He
was mentally unfit. He'd already been booted out of the Coast Guard.

Does not excuse his actions. Just saying that the Army has no
standards -- which is also how that commie, Che-loving, "f*ck America"
shitbird Rapone graduated West Point and was awarded a commission.
Because the Army has no standards.
.
.
.You would not believe how easy it is to get into the Service after you have been kicked out from one branch.

I had a guy who enlisted and served three years before being kicked out for Personality Disorder. He waited about a month and came right back in the Navy. He got discovered during Boot Camp and kicked out again for fraudulent enlistment.

The sucker got some Recruiter to lose some paperwork for him and he came back in again a few years later and managed to stay in for 14 years that time. The only reason we caught him that time was DFAS ran some old pay tapes and came up with a discrepancy in his PEBD based on his service from the previous enlistments.

Once I started looking at his online master file everything was there. Heck I even signed some of his intake stuff at Great Lakes the first time he was in almost 20 years in the past. No one looks at those documents that get put into the Master File at BUPERS unless something or someone makes them do it.

It is easier than you think to enlist if you have been kicked out of the Service before.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:15 PM (+Dllb)

198 187 Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??
========

It's that he often times is too quick to jump on something that he believes is a "scoop" but it comes off as National Enquirer-lite.

And it's frequently a swing and a miss, so he doesn't get much of a presumption of credibility around these here parts.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:15 PM (NWiLs)

199 Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??
Posted by: kraken
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OM has been absent a couple of days. Many of us are very concerned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 16, 2017 04:12 PM (nBBdT)

I've also been busy the last several days and not reading.

what do either of these comments have to do with one another?

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2017 04:15 PM (FKrah)

200 Nance - he was the one what found it 'troubling' when candidate TGE indicated a review of the Bergdahl matter would be indicated if it was not resolved satisfactorily, no?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (fA1SL)

201 They should make a new Star Trek movie with the old cast.

--

If we are talking about Star Trek, the new show The Orville is pretty funny and worth watching imo.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (hMwEB)

202
Did Sergeant Bergdahl desert the Army or did the Army desert him?

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Oh I don't know Josh, you moral-equivalency, melodramatic, motherfucker.

Why don't we ask the families of the soldiers that died trying to find/rescue Bergdahl?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (2wRtc)

203 17 Isn't desertion potentially a capital offense under the UCMJ?

I'm not trolling or snarking, I'm too lazy to bing it and the Horde knows all.

So much of the all.

All of the things.

About everything.

*rocks in corner*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 16, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

Yes, it is a Capital offense. Usually after a short Court-Martial to observe the forms, and the denoument is mandatory and public for his fellows - por encourager les autres.

But we *rarely* invoke it unless we're properly at war; when we are, you almost never hear about it.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (Bl5Zt)

204 Sometimes it's hard to remember they used to push your bicycle.
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Changed our diapers, saw that we were fed, kept warm, ad infinitum ...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (nBBdT)

205 Hoft is quick on the gun to be firstest with the mostest. That leaves little time to fact check, and as a result, people have been left looking foolish by not checking themselves before sharing. BTDT.

Also, his headlines are a little clickbaity, and do not necessarily always capture a fair reading of events.

Great summary. Its still a valuable site, but you gotta check twice and make sure you read what is said in the article. There's a lot of that going around, sadly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (39g3+)

206 what do either of these comments have to do with one another?
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We'll talk about it later.

Posted by: Pot at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (vg8iE)

207 GP is tabloid histrionics much of the time. Overstatement weakens credibility, and now it's the Schlick there, apparently chosen niche, otherwise it means GP just doesn't learn and is careless with sourcing and facts.

Posted by: SarahW at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (Sp1NT)

208 "Also, his headlines are a little clickbaity, and do not necessarily always capture a fair reading of events."

How awful.

Posted by: Matt Drudge at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (OD2ni)

209 alex thank G-d for the decency and love of your mum and dad, and the wisdom of your biological parent.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (FKrah)

210 I'd like to see him in front of a firing squad. How many brave soldiers died trying to find his worthless ass?

Posted by: Peaches at October 16, 2017 04:16 PM (14URa)

211 He'd already been booted out of the Coast Guard.
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which is not that easy to pull off.

Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2017 04:17 PM (qc9kQ)

212 The one that continues to baffle and enrage me is this:

We have a special prosecutor looking into Wikileaks, but none looking into what Wikileaks revealed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2017 04:17 PM (39g3+)

213 kicks pot in the shin.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2017 04:18 PM (FKrah)

214 We have a special prosecutor looking into Wikileaks, but none looking into what Wikileaks revealed.
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Take comfort in the fact that had the salacious shit been about Republicans, a special prosecutor would have been named immediately.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2017 04:19 PM (vg8iE)

215 Thank you all for the Gateway analysis... so grains of salt should be taken, got it.

I confess I peek at Infowars.... but mostly a Paul Watson thing... IMO Watson is spot on about most matters.

Posted by: kraken at October 16, 2017 04:19 PM (zSVEm)

216 That Yahoo article. It fails to mention that people died looking for him, and fails to clarify why he thought deserting his post would be the easiest way to contact other commanders. But it does get in a good slam against the President:

President Barack Obama, who approved the Taliban prisoner swap that brought Bergdahl home in 2014, said the U.S. does not leave its service members on the battlefield, but he was roundly criticized by Republicans. Campaigning for president, Donald Trump suggested Bergdahl would have been executed in a previous era.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 16, 2017 04:19 PM (/qEW2)

217 You never leave a man behind ever.

But if that man deserted and faces these types of charges, he should face life in prison.

The consequences were that men were killed an injured in the search. Five terrorists were freed to kill more Americans. Those facts will come out in the hearing later this month.

That and the fact the prosecution and defense did not strike a plea deal (and vehemently disagree) does not bode well for this turd. Shame.

It kills me to see him in SSGT stopes and with overseas service bars. But it will warm my heart when they are stripped.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:19 PM (brsgu)

218 Wait, you mean he wasn't worth releasing 5 jihadis and a billion dollars to the Taliban?

Shocked, am I...

Posted by: navybrat at October 16, 2017 04:19 PM (w7KSn)

219 Good men died searching for Turdahl.

Posted by: Phildirt at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (3ofGF)

220 >>>Nance - he was the one what found it 'troubling' when candidate TGE indicated a review of the Bergdahl matter would be indicated if it was not resolved satisfactorily, no?

Finish his sentence. But it would not affect Bergdahl ability to receive a fair trial. Just stop with the wackjob stuff.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (6j03N)

221 kicks pot in the shin.

yet doesnt kick pot...

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (vmsda)

222 Serious question... why the Gateway Pundit disdain I see so much of here? Is there some backstory, or is it an ongoing issue??
Posted by: kraken
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I won't even read it anymore. Way to many headlines turn out to be bullshit.

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (M+Lyo)

223 OW FUCK!!!

Posted by: Hillary's toe at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (nFpCY)

224 kicks pot in the shin.

yet doesnt kick pot...

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (vmsda)

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You hurt the ones you love.

Posted by: Pot at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (vg8iE)

225 And it's frequently a swing and a miss, so he doesn't get much of a presumption of credibility around these here parts.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:15 PM (NWiLs)
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all of the above, plus the now almost regular typos in the headlines/blurbs. not sure who's doing the day to day poasting, but they need a new speel chucker.

Posted by: redc1c4 at October 16, 2017 04:21 PM (zlD4P)

226 223
OW FUCK!!!

Posted by: Hillary's toe at October 16, 2017 04:20 PM (nFpCY)
Is there video of that? Because I'm totally cool with the idea that I might die laughing when I watch it.

Posted by: Peaches at October 16, 2017 04:21 PM (14URa)

227 Owebama's legacy.

Every deal he made with foreign entities were NOT "for the United States."

Posted by: Sponge at October 16, 2017 04:21 PM (xttKs)

228
I've also been busy the last several days and not reading.

what do either of these comments have to do with one another?

The difference is, OM is a cob who posts things (which have not been posted in his absence), while you are more sort of a thread-ending-mutilation specialist. It's only a cob-like function that you serve here, not actual important cob functions like threatening people with Yoko.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 04:21 PM (HtLSE)

229 207 GP is tabloid histrionics much of the time. Overstatement weakens credibility, and now it's the Schlick there, apparently chosen niche, otherwise it means GP just doesn't learn and is careless with sourcing and facts.

To me GP means Gorilla Pundit, and that GP is great. We may need to differentiate, how about "GP" and "GP with fleas"?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 16, 2017 04:22 PM (kUmUV)

230 He could get life. He wont

I wonder what the prosecution is asking for time

Judge may consider the 5 years in captivity as "time served"

But if he keeps denying intent while pleading guilty he will piss the judge off

May bust his plea even and force it to trial

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:22 PM (5hHHO)

231 peaches, his overt traitorous acts and the deaths of those trying to save/find him, are a horrendous failure of any semblance of a righteous act and that the last administration portrayed the bastard as a hero .

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2017 04:22 PM (FKrah)

232 I'm picturing Hillary like that chef on Sesame street walking down the steps with a huge cake....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2017 04:22 PM (39g3+)

233 Does this mean he will lop off his dick and get out on good behavior like Bradley Manning?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2017 04:22 PM (ZTRlp)

234 The explanation for Obama's behavior is really simple - he is not a traitor, or a closet Muslim, or any of those things. He is a huge narcissist.

To get elected he promised to close Gitmo - in fact he ran on that issue. When he got into office he realized he was talking out his ass. But Obama, being Obama, can't be wrong about anything ever. He couldn't just say "this is a lot more complicated than I thought" and forget about his promise.

He tried to get the Gitmo guys transferred to the U.S., which would technically close Gitmo. But he couldn't do that either. Then he came up with a typically lame-brained Obama solution - exchange Gitmo prisoners for captured Americans.

That was his half assed plan. That was why he traded five of the worst for Bergdahl - he doesn't give a shit about Bergdahl - never did. That is why he lied about Bergdahl's service record. It is also why he started just releasing some of them.

Naturally he failed, because, well, it was a stupid plan.

He doesn't hate the U.S. - he just doesn't care one way or another if something is good or bad for the U.S., just if it makes Obama look good. To the extent anything made Obama look good he was all in favor of it.

Iran - same thing - it made him look good to get a deal. So what if it was a shitty deal? He got lots of ass licking from the press over it, which is all that mattered. Paris accord was the same thing. On and on - if you simply recognize that Obama thought he would look good doing it, every single policy decision makes perfect sense.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at October 16, 2017 04:23 PM (fftfA)

235 197 . . . The sucker got some Recruiter to lose some paperwork for him and he came back in again a few years later and managed to stay in for 14 years that time. The only reason we caught him that time was DFAS ran some old pay tapes and came up with a discrepancy in his PEBD based on his service from the previous enlistments.

It is easier than you think to enlist if you have been kicked out of the Service before.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:15 PM (+Dllb)

How the hell does all that get missed when they do a background investigation for a security clearance? Or do they not bother with those these days?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 16, 2017 04:23 PM (tu3iY)

236 Trump allies worry that losing the House means impeachment
-CNN

It's almost like the GOPe feeds this shit to CNN. Nah, can't be.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 16, 2017 04:23 PM (mcI77)

237 For Alexthechick, for whenever you need an awwwwww! bookmark it.

https://tinyurl.com/y9pcuq8y

Posted by: Bob in Houston-Vast Right Wing Basket of deplorable! at October 16, 2017 04:23 PM (XRxxn)

238 I suggest use of four nylon lines and four Humvees.

I'm old fashioned like that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 16, 2017 04:24 PM (P83tS)

239 It won't be time served. He pled guilty with. O plea agreement. The misbehaving charge can carry a life sentence. The desertion is five years.

The defense fought the testimony coming later this month from injured soldiers because they know it will result in a longer sentence. Maybe life.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:24 PM (brsgu)

240 220. Meaning that TGE's comments wouldn't affect the Colonel's judgment. Didbhe say anything about Susan Rice and TFG's shills comments?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:24 PM (fA1SL)

241 5 Shoot him.
Posted by: tu3031 at October 16, 2017 03:38 PM (O5Q3r)

There is a certain arrogance visible in certain specimens among our troops lately. Deliberate leakers, avowed communists, etc. They feel entitled to this behavior.

Wise leadership would give BB the worst to remind young Americans that there are certain standards to hold if you volunteer to wear the uniform.

I doubt he'll get the worst, though, which is sad because it emboldens the next one. All carrots, no sticks.

Posted by: For Serious at October 16, 2017 04:24 PM (wx6iv)

242 but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.

I don't see shit about "up to 5 years" for a peacetime desertion conviction, which is what Yahoo is implying.

In other words, the bullshit Yahoo article gets it wrong. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2017 03:59 PM (veoSD)

Death or Roo-roo?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at October 16, 2017 04:25 PM (DhTLV)

243 "223 OW FUCK!!!
Posted by: Hillary's toe"

Congrats to whoever posted that. I burst out laughing.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 16, 2017 04:25 PM (OD2ni)

244 231
peaches, his overt traitorous acts and the deaths of those trying to
save/find him, are a horrendous failure of any semblance of a righteous
act and that the last administration portrayed the bastard as a hero .

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2017 04:22 PM (FKrah)
Girl, you got that right! I still remember his super-creepy 'rents in the Rose Garden with the JEF. Makes me want to puke.

Posted by: Peaches at October 16, 2017 04:25 PM (14URa)

245 >>>Meaning that TGE's comments wouldn't affect the Colonel's judgment. Didbhe say anything about Susan Rice and TFG's shills comments?

Were they part of the motion from Fidell?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:26 PM (6j03N)

246 215 Thank you all for the Gateway analysis... so grains of salt should be taken, got it.

I confess I peek at Infowars.... but mostly a Paul Watson thing... IMO Watson is spot on about most matters.
Posted by: kraken at October 16, 2017 04:19 PM (zSVEm)

PJW's a sharp guy, and entertaining.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

247 238
I suggest use of four nylon lines and four Humvees.

I'm old fashioned like that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 16, 2017 04:24 PM (P83tS)
Gonna need a link to your newsletter, Brother Cavil.

Posted by: Peaches at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (14URa)

248 245. Not sure. The five taliban we traded might know. Or maybe whoever decided to host the event in the Rose Garden.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (fA1SL)

249 >>>>197 . . . The sucker got some Recruiter to lose some paperwork for
him and he came back in again a few years later and managed to stay in
for 14 years that time. The only reason we caught him that time was DFAS
ran some old pay tapes and came up with a discrepancy in his PEBD based
on his service from the previous enlistments.

It is easier than you think to enlist if you have been kicked out of the Service before.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:15 PM (+Dllb)

How the hell does all that get missed when they do a background
investigation for a security clearance? Or do they not bother with those
these days?
.
.
.He didn't have a clearance because he was a Store Keeper and didn't need one. All that happens is a criminal NICS check is run when you enlist if you don't need a clearance and he had no criminal background so he got the green light.

We did an Admin board on him and kicked him out with an General so he still doesn't have a criminal background.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (+Dllb)

250 You never leave a man behind ever.

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Never have, never will.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (7HtZB)

251 Then he came up with a typically lame-brained Obama solution - exchange Gitmo prisoners for captured Americans.

...which is even more fucking awful than his usual shit, because the whole concept of Geneva-style prisoner exchanges assumes regular combatants, not fucking terrorists who will hie off to yonder bomb plant to plan some hostage takings and civvie murders, and rewards civvie hostage taking in favor to normal taking of POWs in regular combat.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (HtLSE)

252 I don't think Obama was a closet muslim. He was a closet islamist.

Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (jxw6R)

253 "Not if you secure him by a ten foot rope tied about his neck before he exits the airframe."

IIRC, that's how Omar Suarez went in "Scarface" when he was found out to be an informant. Sosa had Tony Montana watch the execution as an object lesson.

Posted by: RM at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (U3LtS)

254 I cannot figure out how guys like him end up in the military to begin with. What did they not get about discipline, guns, war, and so on? How can you be so dumb as to think its some kind of community college with uniforms?

What's this? I have to serve my country? Even with a Republican president????

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (39g3+)

255 That picture with the Muj's arm around him screams "better than a goat".

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (brsgu)

256 Are the nfl cocksuckers going to wear bergdahl head bands tonight?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:28 PM (5y11N)

257 Trump to . . . .

*reaches for ficus*

make welfare reform a priority.

Ahhhhhhh!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 16, 2017 04:28 PM (tbOMB)

258 Make sure you hug his mother.

I'll do it !

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2017 04:28 PM (Izjjo)

259 .50 cal is ok for people.

https://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/killing-myth

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 16, 2017 04:28 PM (EyPfd)

260 249 He didn't have a clearance because he was a Store Keeper and didn't need one. All that happens is a criminal NICS check is run when you enlist if you don't need a clearance and he had no criminal background so he got the green light.

We did an Admin board on him and kicked him out with an General so he still doesn't have a criminal background.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (+Dllb)

Well hell, with no criminal background, maybe he's back in ! ! !

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (tu3iY)

261 I wonder if his cocksucking father still has that beard?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (5y11N)

262 258 Make sure you hug his mother.

I'll do it !
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2017 04:28 PM (Izjjo)

Why have you forsaken me?

Posted by: Paste at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (72PAC)

263 >>>Not sure. The five taliban we traded might know. Or maybe whoever decided to host the event in the Rose Garden

Do you even understand what you are talking about, Donny??

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (6j03N)

264 261 I wonder if his cocksucking father still has that beard?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (5y11N)

Pretty sure he's still married.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (NWiLs)

265 It's almost like the GOPe feeds this shit to CNN. Nah, can't be.
"Don't primary us or you'll end up impeached!"

Sounds faintly similar to "Don't anybody move, or I'll blow this n*'s head ALL OVER THIS TOWN!"

Only way, way more stupid. And Trump is not the mayor of Rock Ridge.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (HtLSE)

266

If someone gave him a 1 way helicopter ride over the sea i wouldn't be upset

But i will be very surprised if he gets any time let alone lone years. Pleased, but very surprised

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (5hHHO)

267 I wonder if his cocksucking father still has that beard?

MRS. Bergdahl is just fine, thank you.

Posted by: His Cocksucking Father at October 16, 2017 04:30 PM (oVJmc)

268 peaches, if the left actually had an actual moral principle in anything they do, I would have heart attack at the pure surprise. They care about NOTHING.

just power. everything else is truly a lie.

I'm disgusted the left minions and some of our "betters" can't find the simplest reality.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2017 04:30 PM (FKrah)

269 261 I wonder if his cocksucking father still has that beard?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (5y11N)

What is a sticky mess for $500? NGU

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 16, 2017 04:30 PM (ZTRlp)

270 I wonder if his cocksucking father still has that beard?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (5y11N)

Pretty sure he's still married.
Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (NWiLs)

Crap. i walked right into that one ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:30 PM (5y11N)

271 So this deserter guy seems really crazy/unstable. Imagine a guy who also thinks he's actually a female and wants to have massive hormones injected, get fake boobs implanted and have his dick mangled and stuffed up inside him in a pathetic attempt to make a vagina. Thank Trump for excluding more crazy from the military.

Posted by: Dang at October 16, 2017 04:30 PM (nFpCY)

272 Wait DFAS is incompetent? The hell you say.

-_-

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:30 PM (brsgu)

273 270 I wonder if his cocksucking father still has that beard?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (5y11N)

Pretty sure he's still married.
Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:29 PM (NWiLs)

Crap. i walked right into that one ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:30 PM (5y11N)

Hey, it was a great setup!

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:31 PM (NWiLs)

274 Didn't his father say something weird, like he probably only understood Pashtun at this point? Does he have an adequate Pashtun translator so we can be sure he gets a fair trial?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 16, 2017 04:31 PM (/qEW2)

275 Jerry Brown siding with Betsy DeVos on Title IX

As Insty says, this is huge.

Prog heads gonna explode.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 16, 2017 04:31 PM (ul9CR)

276 274 Didn't his father say something weird, like he probably only understood Pashtun at this point? Does he have an adequate Pashtun translator so we can be sure he gets a fair trial?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 16, 2017 04:31 PM (/qEW2)

He can have a goat to translate.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:32 PM (NWiLs)

277 263. Are you? Nance felt under obligation to comment that TGE would not affect his judgment re: Bergdahl. If he's made any statements that the full-on press from Barry's team for Bergdahl would, similarly, leave him unaffected, I'm not aware of it. Now, if you wanna drag Fidel into it, that's your business, not mine.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:32 PM (fA1SL)

278 249 He didn't have a clearance because he was a Store Keeper and didn't need one. All that happens is a criminal NICS check is run when you enlist if you don't need a clearance and he had no criminal background so he got the green light.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (+Dllb)

Is the "no clearance" thing new? When I was in the Air Force in the '70s I think everyone had at least a Secret. I recall they started mine while I was still in basic, before I had a job assignment.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 16, 2017 04:32 PM (tu3iY)

279 We have so many terps who can translate Pashtun we should have a sale on them. Maybe sell some off online with old humvees

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:32 PM (brsgu)

280

Shove his dad out the helucopter too

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:32 PM (5hHHO)

281 Oh let's remember the little piss ant is insulted to be called a traitor?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:33 PM (5y11N)

282 276
274 Didn't his father say something weird, like he probably only understood Pashtun at this point? Does he have an adequate Pashtun translator so we can be sure he gets a fair trial?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 16, 2017 04:31 PM (/qEW2)

He can have a goat to translate.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:32 PM (NWiLs)

That's ba-aaaaahh-hhdd.

Posted by: Gary Gnu at October 16, 2017 04:33 PM (tbOMB)

283 Strap a parachute to his back and drop him back off in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:33 PM (PY9jH)

284 Our nickname for Bowe, Berghdall-o-holy-asshole.

Posted by: Mohammad al-Talibani at October 16, 2017 04:33 PM (SkuXa)

285 277 263. Are you? Nance felt under obligation to comment that TGE would not affect his judgment re: Bergdahl. If he's made any statements that the full-on press from Barry's team for Bergdahl would, similarly, leave him unaffected, I'm not aware of it. Now, if you wanna drag Fidel into it, that's your business, not mine.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:32 PM (fA1SL)

It's ten miles way anyhow. Fuck it, Palp. Let's go bowling.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:33 PM (NWiLs)

286
We will see. But the idea that this guy could get anything less than decades in prison, considering what he did, is sickening, and alarming. The Manning debacle is outrageous enough. Yeah yeah not the military but the jaw-dropping wholesale flouting of the Espionage Act by the Clinton cabal at State - with impunity - all these things do add up to a pattern. A pattern of outrageous criminal behavior, violation of the most serious laws we have, with a body count as a consequence - and no accountability, noor mild punishment.

Remember the female general who effed up management at Abu Ghraib, then went on a f***ing speaking tour (!) to defend herself, rather than retire in disgrace as anyone in her position would have done in all previous generations of the military?

THAT is the vacuum of integrity and standards that appears to have seeped in from the civilian society. Every time there is no harsh (even vicious) push-back, it is discouraging.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2017 04:34 PM (QDnY+)

287

No parachute. Waste of money

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:34 PM (5hHHO)

288 >>>>249 He didn't have a clearance because he was a Store Keeper and
didn't need one. All that happens is a criminal NICS check is run when
you enlist if you don't need a clearance and he had no criminal
background so he got the green light.

We did an Admin board on him and kicked him out with an General so he still doesn't have a criminal background.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (+Dllb)

Well hell, with no criminal background, maybe he's back in ! ! !
.
.
.Nope, DFAS flagged his SSN as unpayable the last time which is something that they were not capable of doing the second time he came in due to some antiquated computer reasons.

I guess he could come back in under a different number though, but that isn't my problem now.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:34 PM (+Dllb)

289 >>> Are you? Nance felt under obligation to comment that TGE would not affect his judgment re: Bergdahl. If he's made any statements that the full-on press from Barry's team for Bergdahl would, similarly, leave him unaffected, I'm not aware of it. Now, if you wanna drag Fidel into it, that's your business, not mine.

Donny, Fidell is the lawyer for Bergdahl. The comment from Nance was his ruling on a motion from Fidell. I am not sure what you are apparently disturbed by, but I am not particularly impressed with your knowledge of the case, either.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:34 PM (6j03N)

290
Oh let's remember the little piss ant is insulted to be called a traitor?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:33 PM (5y11N)

I'm insulted he's still alive.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:34 PM (PY9jH)

291 Obama is either an atheist or an agnostic. He has no other 'god' higher than himself. His actions are just because he is a post modernist who despises Western Civilization. He once said his own conscious defined what sin is; these are the results of that view point.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 16, 2017 04:35 PM (Plxhz)

292 Dear Bowe:

We very much miss our nightly bunga-bunga sessions.

Posted by: The Taliban at October 16, 2017 04:35 PM (oVJmc)

293 Jerry Brown siding with Betsy DeVos on Title IX

As Insty says, this is huge.

Prog heads gonna explode.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?

Translation: Someone advised Moonbeam that:

1. CA's university system is massive. Engaging in 'punch me in the nuts' policies won't end well; at least not for the next three years.
2. Any fallout will be blamed on Trump.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2017 04:35 PM (326rv)

294 No parachute. Waste of money

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:34 PM (5hHHO)

No, I want the Tolleeeebon to have more fun with him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:35 PM (PY9jH)

295 Judge may consider the 5 years in captivity as "time served"

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:22 PM (5hHHO)

Methinks BB won't get the Missy Manning treatment. It is a different day.

Posted by: golfman at October 16, 2017 04:36 PM (48QDY)

296 Hey, what was I supposed to do? I was about to get my ass chewed by my own media over the VA scandals!

Posted by: Barky Dogbreath at October 16, 2017 04:36 PM (W843Z)

297 The Obama Administration and they defense were fighting the testimony coming later this month from soldiers who were shot looking for the muj's goat stand in.

That's b cuss it will lead to other implications and a longer sentence.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:36 PM (brsgu)

298 289. Castro was a joke. Get Ben to explain it to you.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:36 PM (fA1SL)

299 >>>Fuck it, Palp. Let's go bowling

Yes, take Donny bowling, and tell him to SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:36 PM (6j03N)

300 Strap a parachute to his back and drop him back off in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:33 PM (PY9jH)

Can I tie his 'chute 'cause I'm really bad at it, but trying to get better?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (EgwCt)

301 Where's the troll buster?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (PY9jH)

302 I hope he learns new skills at USDB For the rest of his life.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (brsgu)

303 >>>>>
249 He didn't have a clearance because he was a Store Keeper and
didn't need one. All that happens is a criminal NICS check is run when
you enlist if you don't need a clearance and he had no criminal
background so he got the green light.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:27 PM (+Dllb)

Is the "no clearance" thing new? When I was in the Air Force in the
'70s I think everyone had at least a Secret. I recall they started mine
while I was still in basic, before I had a job assignment.

.
.
.After the John Walker spy issue in 1984 the Navy took clearances away from anyone who didn't need them. They tightened up who needed one and quit issuing blanket Security Clearances to everyone.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (+Dllb)

304

Coast Guard super slow on their paper work. Clearly 2 agencies somehow dropped the ball on this turd. Shouldve washed out in training. Lots of blame to go around, vast majority belongs to the traitor

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (5hHHO)

305 His cocksocker family Lives(ed) in Hailey, ID. A lot of Mormon's in that area.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (mcI77)

306 Bergdahl didn't desert, he was just trying to find himself.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (NWiLs)

307 MY MEATHOLE YEARNS!
Posted by: Sure

I can help you with that, just stand still.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 16, 2017 04:38 PM (SkuXa)

308 Desertion under fire is a capitol offense.

Casually walking away from his unit while they were sleeping and getting lost 20 minutes later is 5 years in the Stockdale.

They should tack on another 20 (on top of his life sentence) for being terminally stupid.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at October 16, 2017 04:38 PM (oYJU2)

309 Yes, take Donny bowling

*washes ball vigorously*

Posted by: Jesus Quintana at October 16, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)

310 I'd like to see Barry Obama go hiking in Afghanistan. He can take his little buddy Beau with him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:38 PM (PY9jH)

311 Bowe engaged in heroic misbehavior before the enemy and deserted with honor and distinction!

Posted by: Barry from Georgetown at October 16, 2017 04:39 PM (Ndje9)

312 Bowe Bergdahl is an American Hero

Okay, usually "Sure" is pushing some kind of actual line on the far left, but this is even more dead letter than usual. No disparagement of us, no comment that bad things happened to him, or that he's innocent, even. No, an Hero.

Well done, dipshit. You've actually defied my expectations.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 16, 2017 04:39 PM (HtLSE)

313
Ooh good, looks like the MUMR Translator is back in action, but now, for "Sure".

Some of those MUMR-grams were hilarious. Funnier than the posts or any other comments. Think Maet programmed it? Not sure.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2017 04:39 PM (QDnY+)

314 Given his affection for his captors he may enjoy prison

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:40 PM (5hHHO)

315 302 Where's the troll buster?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (PY9jH)

Excellent question.

Posted by: Insomniac - Redneck Death Squad Ninja at October 16, 2017 04:40 PM (NWiLs)

316 It takes a special kind of stupid to continue to troll a place where you are reduced to a pathetic cartoon.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2017 04:40 PM (PY9jH)

317 299. Maybe you need to bowl a few frames. You seem highly agitato, Sport.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:40 PM (fA1SL)

318
Yes, take Donny bowling, and tell him to SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:36 PM (6j03N)

You've become tedious and repetitious. Just an observation and a way of saying goodbye. While there's still an opportunity.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 16, 2017 04:40 PM (EgwCt)

319 How the hell does all that get missed when they do a background investigation for a security clearance? Or do they not bother with those these days?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 16, 2017 04:23 PM (tu3iY)

Some ratings don't require a clearance, so not a problem.

From what he wrote, that guy might have had nearly enough time to retire. If he were within a couple years of 20, it would have been a *huge* lift to separate him - he could sue and by the time it got done, he would have the time and it would be moot.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 16, 2017 04:41 PM (Bl5Zt)

320 O

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:41 PM (brsgu)

321 304 After the John Walker spy issue in 1984 the Navy took clearances away from anyone who didn't need them. They tightened up who needed one and quit issuing blanket Security Clearances to everyone.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (+Dllb)

That somehow seems backwards, but if it keeps people who shouldn't have access away from sensitive information I guess it makes sense. Maybe they spend more effort on investigating the ones who really need them.

Seems to have worked for the Army in the Bradley Manning case.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at October 16, 2017 04:42 PM (tu3iY)

322 318 Not agitated, but you really do not seem to know what you are talking about here.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:42 PM (6j03N)

323 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 16, 2017 04:42 PM (72PAC)

324 322. I'm loving this Sure troll-script. #SurePersisted

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 16, 2017 04:42 PM (fA1SL)

325

If HRC were POTUS BB would be on a book tour

Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2017 04:43 PM (5hHHO)

326 "317 It takes a special kind of stupid to continue to troll a place where you are reduced to a pathetic cartoon.
Posted by: Jane D'oh"

Speaking of which, have there been any Bill Wynn sightings lately? We are coming up on the 1 year anniversary of his early night.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 16, 2017 04:43 PM (OD2ni)

327 305

Coast Guard super slow on their paper work.

Those dress Crocs ain't going to shine themselves.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 16, 2017 04:43 PM (mcI77)

328 The Article 99 is the more serious charge. He's admitting to intentional misconduct which endangers the safety of command, unit, etc. the testimony later this month buttresses that charge.

This case is tailor made for a very long vacation at USDB.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2017 04:44 PM (brsgu)

329 I don't know about the Army, but everyone in the Units I am familiar with in The Navy either need a Security Clearance or need to have one in progress or they are pretty much dead in the water and for SURE they are not deploying overseas without one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:45 PM (5y11N)

330 >>>I don't know about the Army, but everyone in the Units I am familiar with in The Navy either need a Security Clearance or need to have one in progress or they are pretty much dead in the water and for SURE they are not deploying overseas without one

A PFC in an infantry unit does not need one.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 16, 2017 04:45 PM (6j03N)

331 323 304 After the John Walker spy issue in 1984 the Navy took clearances away from anyone who didn't need them. They tightened up who needed one and quit issuing blanket Security Clearances to everyone.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:37 PM (+Dllb)

As a DS, I had (still have) a Secret clearance. Before 1984, I may have qualified for TS/SCI as some of my gear was in TS spaces. After 1984, they made the Crypto guys "sanitize" the space whenever I needed to go into it.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 16, 2017 04:47 PM (Bl5Zt)

332 >>>>From what he wrote, that guy might have had nearly enough time to
retire. If he were within a couple years of 20, it would have been a
*huge* lift to separate him - he could sue and by the time it got done,
he would have the time and it would be moot.
.
.
.Yes he came very close to the magic 18 year protected mark, after that we would have had to let him retire because of the way the laws are written even knowing most of his time was fraudulent.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:48 PM (+Dllb)

333 Dear Diary

Meanie lawyers made me plead guilty, but assured me a list of officials I can blow to get light sentencing. I miss the desert air, twinkling stars, and long sultry night with my lovers.

xoxo

Posted by: Bowe at October 16, 2017 04:48 PM (HgMAr)

334 >>>>As a DS, I had (still have) a Secret clearance. Before 1984, I may have
qualified for TS/SCI as some of my gear was in TS spaces. After 1984,
they made the Crypto guys "sanitize" the space whenever I needed to go
into it.
.
.
.I bet they hated you.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:49 PM (+Dllb)

335 331 I don't know about the Army, but everyone in the Units I am familiar with in The Navy either need a Security Clearance or need to have one in progress or they are pretty much dead in the water and for SURE they are not deploying overseas without one

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2017 04:45 PM (5y11N)

I saw an IT re-designate as BM after he lost his clearance. Surprisingly, he loved it. During deployment.

I helped one of my FCs fight it and won, but he turned out to be a shithead and I masted him for gundecking.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 16, 2017 04:50 PM (Bl5Zt)

336 I bet they hated you.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2017 04:49 PM (+Dllb)

Sure, maybe. But they got to fuck off and play music instead of working when I was in there.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 16, 2017 04:51 PM (Bl5Zt)

337 I've seen editorials calling Obama's Bergdahl decisions mistaken, misguided, etc.

Wrong. They were a success.

He was trying to free terrorists, fund the Taliban, abase America before her enemies, get American soldiers killed, demoralize current soldiers and dissuade potential soldiers from serving.

Upside: #That'sHowYouGotTrump!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 16, 2017 04:54 PM (Ndje9)

338 ps: He was also trying to mainstream treason.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 16, 2017 04:55 PM (Ndje9)

339 It's a shame these words can't apply to him:
"Flash before my eyes,
Now it's time to die,
Burning within my brain
I can feel the flame"

Oh, and this applies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVxevIgVmG8

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at October 16, 2017 05:05 PM (dUcQ6)

340 Someone needs to do a screen gif with Obama whiffing a golf ball after slobbering all over Traitor's parents.

Posted by: Linda Loo at October 16, 2017 06:09 PM (zro1A)

341 AtC @ 142 - Non submissive rack and a good daughter?

Forgive me for swooning, Empress.

Posted by: Butch at October 16, 2017 06:21 PM (hXu8T)

342 If he is released from the lockup, I expect the next we hear of him will be a report of his suicide by bullet(s) to the back of his head.

Posted by: Colonel Death at October 17, 2017 04:23 PM (eNgNQ)

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