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Trump Will Deliver Speech Pushing Tax Reform to Hand-Picked Group of Truck-Drivers in Harrisburg Pennsylvania

He's speaking to truckers because, like farmers, they are often hit with a death tax bill the company can't pay (they have a lot of equipment, not a lot of cash) and wind up having to sell off assets.

He'll speak in a hangar with a lot of big rig trucks around him, which is good theatrics.

Trump also will devote a significant portion of his speech to truckers, a "major beneficiary" of the tax plan, which proposes to lower the corporate tax rate to around 20 percent, although Trump hopes to see that number at 15 percent, a senior White House official told PennLive.com.

The tax alleviation would also allow manufacturers to spend more on production, thus providing truckers with more driving opportunities.

In addition, Republican lawmakers are also looking to reframe the current individual tax rate, from 39.6 percent to 35 percent, as well as simplify the complex tax code, and "deliver the lowest tax rates on businesses in modern history," Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas, head of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, told reporters on Capitol Hill.

He'll also be pushing his plan to lower rates for repatriating American companies' money which is parked overseas, outside the American economy, and won't be brought back in because the tax rates for doing so are too forbidding. He'll say that the secondary effects of bringing trillions of dollars back into the US will result in $4000 benefit for each American family.

The speech is planned to start at 5:45.

I think FoxNews will be airing the speech here, but I'll have to check back when the speech starts. Fox puts up the link for its live-streamed speeches very late, which often makes me just link CNN, even though they're #FakeNews.

Livestream: Fox finally put it up.


Posted by: Ace at 05:42 PM




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1 Frist

Posted by: mnw at October 11, 2017 05:42 PM (hLB6Q)

2 Will they be all electric self driving trucks?

Posted by: Bruce at October 11, 2017 05:42 PM (8ikIW)

3 Odds on him saying "good buddy" during the speech?

Posted by: pep at October 11, 2017 05:42 PM (LAe3v)

4 List me under the Taxes are to Damm high party.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 11, 2017 05:43 PM (0OmEj)

5 You combine a sex bot and a robot truck, what do you get?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 11, 2017 05:43 PM (6Ll1u)

6 Just started

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 05:44 PM (dab45)

7 He'll say that the secondary effects of bringing trillions of dollars back into the US will result in $4000 benefit for each American family.

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That sucks. By my calculations that's at least 3000% lower than what Obamacare saved everyone.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 11, 2017 05:44 PM (Wsqyd)

8 Top ten? I like these Trump things. It getst teh media all whipped up.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs an hoping for Cubs-Indians 2.0 at October 11, 2017 05:44 PM (8iiMU)

9 Yeah Trump!!!

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at October 11, 2017 05:44 PM (hMwEB)

10 what off the cuff remark about world events will send the left into a frenzy for the next 2 weeks?

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 11, 2017 05:45 PM (FZYNt)

11 More important Lou Barletta will be there. He is running against the socialist Senator Bob Casey.

Posted by: redenzo at October 11, 2017 05:45 PM (5wSNN)

12 Ha! Strasbourg threw like Obamalama! LOL


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs an hoping for Cubs-Indians 2.0 at October 11, 2017 05:45 PM (8iiMU)

13 Head out, mother truckers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:45 PM (oVJmc)

14 Ryan and McYertle must be sharting themselves. Good.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 05:45 PM (mcI77)

15 Praising FEMA.

Did anyone see the mayor of San Juan wearing her "Nasty Woman" tshirt?

She's a piece of work.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (PY9jH)

16 10
what off the cuff remark about world events will send the left into a frenzy for the next 2 weeks?

Posted by: Rick in SK


What won't?

Posted by: pep at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (LAe3v)

17 Meanwhile, Bill Clinton will be attending an event where he will be surrounded by truck stop hookers.

No media will be present.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (LgBtw)

18 Didnt anyone call the corgis?

Posted by: Foxy Boxy is my new nic at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (WoBdD)

19 Here's another stream, just in case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vHTUQwvbLc

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (tRaq7)

20 Convoy!

Posted by: CW McCall at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (bc2Lc)

21 Wait. You said scheduled to start at 5:45. It's 5:49 and he's already into it.

What's with this starting on time business?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 11, 2017 05:48 PM (gIRsn)

22 Who got the rubber ducky?

Not Harvey again... geez

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 05:48 PM (QvC3K)

23 He's gotten much better with the TOTUS, very smooth

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 05:48 PM (dab45)

24 Gonna to put the hammer down-- On McConnell's head.


Posted by: PDT at October 11, 2017 05:48 PM (mcI77)

25 I think PDT is the sort of guy that is very comfortable with blue collar folks. If I recall, I remember something about him saying his Dad used to bring him along and hang out with the construction crews. Plus, if you are a developer, this is part of teh job.

Our bettors don't have that experience, and sneer.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs an hoping for Cubs-Indians 2.0 at October 11, 2017 05:48 PM (8iiMU)

26 Bill Clinton and Gaylord were never punctual.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 05:49 PM (QvC3K)

27 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (LgBtw)
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Hello, Pete. Long time, no see. And that's quite a hash you've got yourself there.

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 05:49 PM (UoSKV)

28 Anyone think Trump won't kick ass WRT truckers? Doesn't understand Teamsters?

This is right in Trumpster's wheelhouse and why again he'll maintain support in the Rust Belt.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 11, 2017 05:49 PM (H8S+R)

29 27 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (LgBtw)
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Hello, Pete. Long time, no see. And that's quite a hash you've got yourself there.

Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 05:49 PM (UoSKV)


OMG! LOL!

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 05:50 PM (Enq6K)

30 I remember something about him saying his Dad used to bring him along and hang out with the construction crews.

It's good to hang out with them. It's better to spend your summer's working with them. Gives you a new appreciation for the efforts of others.

Posted by: pep at October 11, 2017 05:50 PM (LAe3v)

31 what off the cuff remark about world events will send the left into a frenzy for the next 2 weeks?

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Anything. A misspelled word or mistaken phrase. Ketchup on steaks. Melania wearing high heels to board AF1.

ANYTHING to not have to discuss what's happening in Vegas for some weird reason.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 11, 2017 05:50 PM (Wsqyd)

32 Taxes and trucks are two things this country needs to focus on like a laser beam. America.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 11, 2017 05:50 PM (nKbPK)

33 Plus, I believe PDT loves out country.


Our bettors don't have that love, and sneer.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs an hoping for Cubs-Indians 2.0 at October 11, 2017 05:50 PM (8iiMU)

34

obama would surround himself with fake truck drivers by putting plaid shirts and belt buckles on his minions.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 11, 2017 05:50 PM (czg0O)

35 Pete!!


What's your take on houseplants?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 05:50 PM (NrE3O)

36 21 Wait. You said scheduled to start at 5:45. It's 5:49 and he's already into it.

What's with this starting on time business?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 11, 2017 05:48 PM (gIRsn)

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I forgot how much I despised that type of passive-aggressive bullsh*t.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 11, 2017 05:51 PM (Wsqyd)

37 Please get rid of DEF.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 05:51 PM (mcI77)

38 Wow, it's nice to have an optimistic president for a change.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 05:51 PM (tRaq7)

39 Sorry I didn't get a chance to post this on the previous thread, how Geraldo Rivera made his bones:

http://tinyurl.com/y9ja4p93

Posted by: bergerbilder at October 11, 2017 05:51 PM (lIZQs)

40 Capital gains and corporate taxes are too high. The death tax should be abolished. We need a flat tax with 2 or 3 brackets. Everyone should have skin in the game, especially those sucking at the public tit. Public employee unions should not be allowed to fund politicians. Starve the beast, then stick in the steely knives.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 11, 2017 05:51 PM (0n18S)

41 Paul Joseph Watson destroys Eminem.

Posted by: BeckoniningChasm at October 11, 2017 05:52 PM (l9m7l)

42 Ethan 'Pajama Boy' Krupp dressed as a trucker... why the Peterbuilt belt-buckle would be as big as him...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 05:52 PM (QvC3K)

43 29
27 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (LgBtw)

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Hello, Pete. Long time, no see. And that's quite a hash you've got yourself there.



Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 05:49 PM (UoSKV)



LGBTw, LOL. The w = wanker?


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs an hoping for Cubs-Indians 2.0 at October 11, 2017 05:52 PM (8iiMU)

44 I have to say the ketchup on steaks thing has me thinking impeachment is not farfetched.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 05:52 PM (jHrzU)

45 I wonder why the left hates working families?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:53 PM (PY9jH)

46 I may Weinstein my wife's hibiscus if this speech goes on much longer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:53 PM (oVJmc)

47 Ewww.

Trump is going to appear with... truckers?

Those icky burly guys who smell like gasoline, drive all day, listen to talk radio and don't eat Kale or drink expensive coffee?

Those are NOT our type of people.

Trump is such a loser. Impeach NOW! Onward with the RESISTANCE!!


Posted by: liberals everywhere at October 11, 2017 05:53 PM (aT+Bx)

48 Ryan weeps.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (PY9jH)

49 Drink every time the dems say this benefits the rich and destroys the middle class?

Posted by: lowfibass at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (BrqlK)

50 Another Cub opportunity lost.

Still plenty of time.




Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs and hoping for Cubs-Indians 2.0 at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (8iiMU)

51 >>
Posted by: colfax mingo at October 11, 2017 05:51 PM (0n18S)



And then, Pink Champagne on Ass.

Posted by: Steve Croft at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (OSiAE)

52 blaster,

Don't forget the two scoops! High crimes indeed.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (0n18S)

53 George Will is disturbed by all the blue jeans on all those roughnecks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (oVJmc)

54 Brooks has fainted due to no sharp creases anywhere.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 05:55 PM (QvC3K)

55 Drink every time the dems say this benefits the rich and destroys the middle class?

Posted by: lowfibass at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (BrqlK)


Catch AM Joe/Mika and Alisyn and Chrissy in the morning. You'll be sh*t faced before your bacon has finished frying.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:55 PM (PY9jH)

56 Death tax? We also propose a Dead Tax to be paid every year by the family of the deceased.
For the children.

Posted by: Evil Chuckie Schumer at October 11, 2017 05:55 PM (HgMAr)

57
Paul Joseph Watson destroys Eminem.
--

Eminem has been a laughing stock in Michigan since his career started.

The old term used to be "w*gger."

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 05:55 PM (aT+Bx)

58 Damn, I wanna see Shatner play Trump in a biopic.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:55 PM (oVJmc)

59 @52 two scoops is at least understandable.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 05:56 PM (jHrzU)

60 >>Another Cub opportunity lost.


I hate that. When they follow the candy bar all the way up to the fence, but won't leave the schoolyard!?

Posted by: Harry Reid at October 11, 2017 05:56 PM (OSiAE)

61 53 George Will is disturbed by all the blue jeans on all those roughnecks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (oVJmc)


Precisely. Also, notice those horrible work boots.

Posted by: George Will at October 11, 2017 05:56 PM (mcI77)

62 Damn, I wanna see Shatner play Trump in a biopic.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:55 PM (oVJmc)


lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:56 PM (PY9jH)

63 53 George Will is disturbed by all the blue jeans dungarees on all those roughnecks.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (oVJmc)

Fixed for hoity-toity bowtie-edness

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 05:56 PM (dab45)

64 I love this bar!

Posted by: goon at October 11, 2017 05:57 PM (EaQ6/)

65 "Hard work!"

GAAAAHHHHH! -- liberals everywhere

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:57 PM (PY9jH)

66 Trump's stamina makes me tired! He's 70 and it's like he never, ever stops.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 05:57 PM (Enq6K)

67 William Shatner and Donald Trump walk into the Mos Eisley cantina...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 05:57 PM (QvC3K)

68 53 George Will is disturbed by all the blue jeans on all those roughnecks.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (oVJmc)
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I've always wanted to slap the shit out of George Will.

Posted by: Weasel at October 11, 2017 05:57 PM (Sfs6o)

69 62
Damn, I wanna see Shatner play Trump in a biopic.




Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:55 PM (oVJmc)

lol




Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:56 PM (PY9jH)

"We will make - our country - great. Again!"

Posted by: Capt. Kirk w/orange hair at October 11, 2017 05:57 PM (8iiMU)

70 Honestly, I don't give a fuck about corporate tax rates. Drive the income tax rates down or fuck off. And I've heard that they're trying to eliminate itemized deductions, which I methodically list each April until the IRS puts a $3,000 check in my account.

So this is unhelpful. Thankfully, the GOPe will ensure that Trump fails, as has happened with every other agenda item this year.

Posted by: CPT11A at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (bAv2R)

71 Please get rid of DEF.
Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 05:51 PM (mcI77)

Gonna be tough...

Posted by: The DEF Lobby at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (48QDY)

72 Trump's stamina makes me tired! He's 70 and it's like he never, ever stops.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 05:57 PM (Enq6K)


I know! How old is Martha Stewart? She says she doesn't need more than 4 hours of sleep per night.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (PY9jH)

73 Trump loves truckers because they help him transport his balls.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (oVJmc)

74 Letter on West Point in the sidebar is spot on. Seen it personally.

Posted by: NCKate at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (cpPGe)

75 My church is participating in an event which will include simulcast from a national feed. It's a unity thing to help our divided nation.

One of the national speakers is David Brooks.

I love my church but I am busy that day.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (jHrzU)

76 Yeah Old Farts!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (tRaq7)

77 George Will is disturbed by all the blue jeans on all those roughnecks.


I thought roughnecks meant oil field workers.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 11, 2017 05:59 PM (gIRsn)

78 Are Cubs those things that we find out on the ice and rid the universe of because they have no right to exist in the first place. Yes, I thought so! Go Tribe!

Posted by: goon at October 11, 2017 05:59 PM (EaQ6/)

79 Obama would have surrounded himself with the union guys who drive the D.C. city tow trucks.


Posted by: mallfly suPreme at October 11, 2017 06:00 PM (ILitO)

80 >>Obama would have surrounded himself with the union guys who drive the D.C. city tow trucks.

If he ever proposed a tax break. Which he didn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 06:00 PM (/tuJf)

81 Trucks, big trucks, are way better to throw people under than busses! Only Progressives choose busses! Real leaders use Trucks!

Posted by: goon at October 11, 2017 06:01 PM (EaQ6/)

82 Lena Dunham should be there-- as the honorary lot lizard.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:01 PM (mcI77)

83

Honorary?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:02 PM (T/KY7)

84 Honestly, I don't give a fuck about corporate tax rates. Drive the income tax rates down or fuck off. And I've heard that they're trying to eliminate itemized deductions, which I methodically list each April until the IRS puts a $3,000 check in my account.


Posted by: CPT11A

Corporate tax rates have a big impact on unemployment, job growth and operations. Take down the corporate rate, more people are employed, more people get a better wage, and productivity increases.

Reduce itemized deductions and INCREASE the personal deduction. It is supposed to help most people who make less than $100K a year.
Simplify the tax code, and reduce the incentive for companies to make money off of your tax paying miseries.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at October 11, 2017 06:02 PM (vcOmj)

85 Honestly, I don't give a fuck about corporate tax rates.


Posted by: CPT11A at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (bAv2R)

Outside of offshore ownership, there should be little or no corporate tax, period...

Think it through.

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 06:02 PM (48QDY)

86 I saw an article on the first all robot farm, planted, tended and harvested by robots. The end is coming for working humans. We will live a life of leisure, tended to by our robot servants. It will be true communism, and life will be glorious. Nothing could go wrong, right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 11, 2017 06:03 PM (6Ll1u)

87
How will we know they're really truckers without lab coats

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 06:03 PM (lKyWE)

88 Harrisburg, the capital of the Commonwealth, the first municipality in PA to go bankrupt. What a great place to be from.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/13/us/harrisburg-pennsylvania-files-for-bankruptcy.html

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at October 11, 2017 06:03 PM (Jj+59)

89 >>Honestly, I don't give a fuck about corporate tax rates.

But they give a fuck about you.

Corporations do not pay taxes. They pass them through to you.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 06:03 PM (/tuJf)

90 Too good to check:

Awan was supposedly able to check the House server while he was in Pakistan for several months a year.

Republicans... surprised.

Democrats not commenting, however, I suspect they were OK with him working "remotely."

gateway pundit.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 06:03 PM (aT+Bx)

91 Simplify the tax code, and reduce the incentive for companies to make money off of your tax paying miseries.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at October 11, 2017 06:02 PM (vcOmj)

Just think if we could get all those smart tax accountants and lawyers doing something productive

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (dab45)

92 He's pushing all the right buttons for me. I truly enjoy watching him speak.

What a refreshing change from the previous TOTUS-reader. At least PDT can speak off the cuff without tripping over his participles.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (tRaq7)

93 His wife keeps him young. Poor Barack. Can you imagine how he feels every time Mrs. Trump hits the camera. He must just groan.

Posted by: goon at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (EaQ6/)

94 The only reason to have a huge corporate tax rate is to make businesses buy indulgences from politicians.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (oVJmc)

95 Don't care about corporate tax rates? Crikky, we have higher corporate rates than France.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (0n18S)

96 How pedestrian.

Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?


Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)

97 High corporate taxes drive money and operations overseas.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:05 PM (oVJmc)

98 How pedestrian.



Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?







Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)


A cocktail weiner?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:05 PM (PY9jH)

99 93 His wife keeps him young. Poor Barack. Can you imagine how he feels every time Mrs. Trump hits the camera. He must just groan.

He groans because Reggie is about to finish him off.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:05 PM (T/KY7)

100
How pedestrian.



Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?







Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)

A Vagina?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 11, 2017 06:05 PM (r5KeJ)

101
His wife keeps him young. Poor Barack. Can you imagine how he feels every time Mrs. Trump hits the camera. He must just groan.

Posted by: goon at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (EaQ6/)


I think it's cute you believe Barry Obama is into women.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:06 PM (PY9jH)

102
Anyone want to guess what's in my pants? Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)


Crabs

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 06:06 PM (lKyWE)

103 Keystone State loves TRUMP!

Posted by: kallisto at October 11, 2017 06:07 PM (7l5V0)

104 My church is participating in an event which will
include simulcast from a national feed. It's a unity thing to help our
divided nation.



One of the national speakers is David Brooks.



I love my church but I am busy that day.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (jHrzU)
====================================

Huh. I knew he had written a book about faith. I haven't read it. It might be an interesting talk. I'd be willing to listen.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 06:07 PM (lwiT4)

105 Put your mouth on it.

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:07 PM (mcI77)

106 Trump did not propose getting rid of the itemized deductions he proposed doubling the standard deduction which will help a lot of people and lower their taxes overall and everyone forgets about the three tax rates instead of 7 which will be lower on average for pretty much everyone

Plus why do you wait for a check from the IRS for $3,000 all that means is you are over paying your taxes throughout the year and giving the IRS an interest free loan stop doing that

Posted by: #neverskankles at October 11, 2017 06:07 PM (Yl3RF)

107 Outside of offshore ownership, there should be little or no corporate tax, period... "

I agree, with one exception.

Media and entertainment companies produce nothing new in any physical sense they just tell stories, allow people a diverting way to waste time and generally redistribute other people's wealth.

So for that reason, I propose a 50% gross receipts tax for all media and entertainment companies, including all sports venues. let that money do something besides flow into the pockets of the Weinstein's and the Iger's.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (k1TUh)

108

10-4

Posted by: Rubber Duck at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (IqV8l)

109 Corporations do not pay taxes. They pass them through to you.
Posted by: JackStraw

Not exactly, but a big corporation can do things to alter their bottom line, in terms of what their real profit actually is. This then alters their taxation by the government.

But to consider your point, major corporations figure out what the cost of their major products are, and what the projected earnings and profit will be going forward.

For example, Ford figures out how many cars; Fusions, Explorers, etc they are going to sell in a fiscal year. How much will their operating expenses be; what will it cost to meet those, pay expected taxes on earnings, and show a profit for the stockholders.
They set selling costs of whatever their product is, to cover their expected costs, EBIT, and also anticipate what their taxes will be, if all things actually work out.

When things don't, then they look for rules in corporate tax law to prevent themselves from paying more taxes.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (vcOmj)

110 LGBTw, LOL. The w = wanker?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, still loving the Cubs an hoping for Cubs-Indians 2.0 at October 11, 2017 05:52

I read Mastubatin Pete' has as...Large, by the way.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (yJ1e6)

111 7 He'll say that the secondary effects of bringing trillions of dollars back into the US will result in $4000 benefit for each American family.

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That sucks. By my calculations that's at least 3000% lower than what Obamacare saved everyone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 11, 2017 05:44 PM (Wsqyd)




Good snark aside, I really would like a reconcentration of effort on real health care reform, and the repeal of the Obamunist mess, *before* tax reform. Although the corporate rates are just too damn high, and the same leftists who snivel about exporting jobs need mirrors held to their faces as to who is to blame for that.

Tax reform will greatly stimulate the economy. We all know that.

However, will it mask the damage the Obamunist did, in the same way that an oil boom masked the damage that Socialist policy was doing to Venezuelans?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (ujg0T)

112 Wow - Heyward got a hit? Hath hell frozen over?

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (lwiT4)

113 105 Put your mouth on it.
Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:07 PM (mcI77)

It's squishy, like a full Depends...

Posted by: Truck stop hooker at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (T/KY7)

114 Compare and contrast the number of times Trumps uses "I," "me," "my," "mine," or more recently, actually quotes himself, vs. Barry Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (PY9jH)

115 Microsoft is killing the windows phone. Hey maybe now they can get back to making an operating system that isn't designed for a phone.

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2017 06:09 PM (z/Ubi)

116 How will we know they're really truckers without lab coats

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 06:03 PM (lKyWE)
...........

Good question. Maybe they should hand out mirrored sunglasses and wifebeater t-shirts to everyone.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at October 11, 2017 06:09 PM (HgMAr)

117 106 Trump did not propose getting rid of the itemized deductions he proposed doubling the standard deduction which will help a lot of people and lower their taxes overall and everyone forgets about the three tax rates instead of 7 which will be lower on average for pretty much everyone

Who will pay for Paul Ryan's gym membership then?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:09 PM (mcI77)

118 My church is participating in an event which will include simulcast from a national feed. It's a unity thing to help our divided nation.

One of the national speakers is David Brooks.

I love my church but I am busy that day.
Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (jHrzU

If you change your mind and attend you best make sure your creases are crisp.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 11, 2017 06:10 PM (nBr1j)

119 Anyone notice Trump's nose in the air, looking down at us all?

Me neither.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:10 PM (PY9jH)

120

What's a Windows phone?

About 3 pounds?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:10 PM (T/KY7)

121 Shockingly, while Fox News is showing the speech MSNBC and CNN aren't.

Posted by: Vendette at October 11, 2017 06:10 PM (T9km8)

122 I love my church but I am busy that day.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (jHrzU
========================


Will it be streamed online, do you know?

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 06:10 PM (lwiT4)

123 Will they burn an effigy of Elon Musk at the end?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:11 PM (mcI77)

124 >>Not exactly, but a big corporation can do things to alter their bottom line, in terms of what their real profit actually is. This then alters their taxation by the government.

No, exactly. As you went on to say.

Of course it doesn't always work out the way things are planned, sometimes companies don't always meet their sales goals, but the intent is to bury taxes as part of the expense.

When it doesn't work out companies take a hit. When it consistently doesn't work out companies cut costs, i.e. employees, and any other expenses they can which are usually difficult and if that doesn't work they move to a place with a lower tax burden.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 06:11 PM (/tuJf)

125 Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)
............

Besides skid marks?

Posted by: wth at October 11, 2017 06:12 PM (HgMAr)

126

Whatever it is Jimmy, G-Pal will steam it for you.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:12 PM (T/KY7)

127 112 Wow - Heyward got a hit? Hath hell frozen over?

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 06:08 PM (lwiT4)


How much you payin' that guy?

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 06:12 PM (Enq6K)

128 I am embarrassed to admit this but I was a huge Eminem "stan" in 2000 and a little less so in 2001. he was anti Clinton then.

later he jumped on the anti Bush bandwagon and I decided I was done with the drugged out wife abusing cockknocker. (and for anti Bush songs Nine Inch Nails was doing better in Year Zero anyway. )

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 11, 2017 06:12 PM (8qzwe)

129 Musk pinata?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:13 PM (mcI77)

130 70 Honestly, I don't give a fuck about corporate tax rates. Drive the income tax rates down or fuck off.

Posted by: CPT11A at October 11, 2017 05:58 PM (bAv2R)



Ask not who exported the jobs--YOU did.

While I do worry about tinkering with individual itemization, driving the corporate rates down is a must.


Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:13 PM (ujg0T)

131 the only thing I want to see in Kimmel's pants is my boot.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 11, 2017 06:14 PM (8qzwe)

132 Anyone notice Trump's nose in the air, looking down at us all?
Me neither.


Posted by: Jane D'oh
===

I really miss my annual "fair share" lecture at the point of the Harvard Law perfessor's finger.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:14 PM (2wRtc)

133

Jimmy's just mad he had to go full Travolta to get any traction in Horrywood...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:14 PM (T/KY7)

134 Of course it doesn't always work out the way things are planned, sometimes companies don't always meet their sales goals, but the intent is to bury taxes as part of the expense.

When it doesn't work out companies take a hit. When it consistently doesn't work out companies cut costs, i.e. employees, and any other expenses they can which are usually difficult and if that doesn't work they move to a place with a lower tax burden.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 06:11 PM (/tuJf)

AND when they hit the homer, the owners, be they individuals or stockholders cash in...





then pay taxes.

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 06:14 PM (48QDY)

135 I dream of the French Revolution. I'm not a brite man.

Posted by: Ta Nashiti Coates at October 11, 2017 06:14 PM (SkuXa)

136 eminem - bah. Anyone who started a career after Stevie Ray Vaughn died is dead to me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 06:15 PM (k1TUh)

137 Microsoft is killing the windows phone.


Which is too bad. We need Google's power broken up.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:15 PM (oVJmc)

138 That Drudge article talks about an old friend of Trump that is still his "whisperer". Another Manhattan billionaire that doesn't like the wall. He doesn't like Trump playing to 'the base'. he says "who is you base really?"

sheesh ... sounds like Satan himself ... "did God REALLY say thou shalt not eat ...". He has Ivanka already whispering sweet Democrat nothings in his ear, now we find Trump has another trying to convince him to be a Manhattan globalist Democrat.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 11, 2017 06:16 PM (/aIFg)

139 eminem - bah
===

The yellow ones are the best. The BEST.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:16 PM (2wRtc)

140 See the top story at the Daily Mail. Uncle Harvey is "suicidal" at his daughter's LA home. He ran out of the house and tried to flag down a passing driver to give him a ride anywhere.

So Uncle Harv hasn't gone to Europe yet. I hope they pull his passport so he can't pull a Polanski.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:16 PM (8O3HH)

141 I love my President! Got the video up but couldn't get the volume loud enough to really hear it. And, of course, the big story of the day (and week) here in Indy is that they opened an Ikea. I shit you not, they have been losing their minds over it all week. First one in the state, apparently, but c'mon . . .

Posted by: Peaches at October 11, 2017 06:17 PM (14URa)

142

Eiminem had a couple songs years back I likes, and the movie '8 inches up my green mile' or whatever it was had a couple hotties in it, but he's just another brown trout that needs to swim out to sea.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:17 PM (T/KY7)

143 When it doesn't work out companies take a hit. When it consistently doesn't work out companies cut costs, i.e. employees, and any other expenses they can which are usually difficult and if that doesn't work they move to a place with a lower tax burden.
Posted by: JackStraw

Which is why corporate tax rates matter, but in a very competitive industry, it is not always possible to price your goods and services so that your anticipated tax payments are completely covered.

In a very broad sense, absolutely. All their earnings and then profits come from sales of something, from which taxes are paid if you turn a profit (at least Federal tax). But in a narrow sense, it is not always possible to price your tax obligation into pricing. The tax obligation remains if you turn a profit, but you do have to consider it somewhere.

The point, then, to lowering the corporate tax rate is to make business more attractive to operate in America, and to allow more aggressive pricing and productivity in businesses already working, because their expected tax bill will be smaller.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at October 11, 2017 06:17 PM (vcOmj)

144 NCKate, no wonder I couldn't find Heffington's name at West Point. He retired. If this letter is legit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 06:17 PM (QvC3K)

145 Microsoft is killing the windows phone.


Best way is to introduce a new Windows phone. That should just about do it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:18 PM (tbOMB)

146 I'm going to expose myself as the dumb millennial here...

How do I stop overpaying my taxes as a state employee? It's not like I filled out a form stating that I should pay so much in taxes.

Also, if I just put in my basic info, my tax return will be about $500. It's after I scrupulously list all my itemized shit, especially "hobbies", that I get $3000.

Posted by: CPT11A at October 11, 2017 06:18 PM (rOaBQ)

147 Iran deal!
Fuck this guy.

Posted by: Boeing at October 11, 2017 06:18 PM (mcI77)

148 Jimmy Dean was the first White rap artist I heard, and his banging song. Big Bad John.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 11, 2017 06:19 PM (6Ll1u)

149 Posted by: Peaches at October 11, 2017 06:17

How are you and the kiiehs settling in? Glad you had a safe trip.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at October 11, 2017 06:19 PM (yJ1e6)

150 First one in the state, apparently, but c'mon . . .
Posted by: Peaches

It was a Big Deal when they opened the first one in Columbus last Spring. Before, everybody that wanted IKEA went to Cincinnati.
The pain....the pain.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at October 11, 2017 06:19 PM (vcOmj)

151 Trump has embraced the American Model.

MSNBC thinks that's a sex scandal.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (oVJmc)

152 148 Jimmy Dean was the first White rap artist I heard, and his banging song. Big Bad John.

Doesn't he make breakfast sausages?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (mcI77)

153 Eiminem had a couple songs years back I likes,
===

I liked when the boy M & M sang to the girl M & M.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (2wRtc)

154 101
His wife keeps him young. Poor Barack. Can you imagine how he feels every time Mrs. Trump hits the camera. He must just groan.

Posted by: goon at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (EaQ6/)

I think it's cute you believe Barry Obama is into women.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 06:06 PM (PY9jH)

He's on the DL.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (NWiLs)

155 Uncle Harvey is "suicidal" at his daughter's LA home. He ran out of the house and tried to flag down a passing driver to give him a ride anywhere.

-
We're so sorry Uncle Harvey
We're so sorry if we caused you any pain
We're so sorry Uncle Harvey
But there's no one left at home
And I believe I'm gonna rain

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (Nwg0u)

156 Which is why corporate tax rates matter, but in a very competitive industry, it is not always possible to price your goods and services so that your anticipated tax payments are completely covered.

In a very broad sense, absolutely. All their earnings and then profits come from sales of something, from which taxes are paid if you turn a profit (at least Federal tax). But in a narrow sense, it is not always possible to price your tax obligation into pricing. The tax obligation remains if you turn a profit, but you do have to consider it somewhere.

>>The point, then, to lowering the corporate tax rate is to make business more attractive to operate in America, and to allow more aggressive pricing and productivity in businesses already working, because their expected tax bill will be smaller.

I don't think we are really disagreeing. It's more complex than any single statement but the underlying truth is that corporate taxes are passed on to consumers one way or the other in the long run.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (/tuJf)

157 Not exactly, but a big corporation can do things to alter their bottom line, in terms of what their real profit actually is. This then alters their taxation by the government.

Here's what I proposed while working in corporate tax, even though it would eliminate my job. (Which, hell, it should).

Public companies have an incentive to show high earnings to their shareholders, which boosts their share price.

They have an incentive to show low earnings to the government to reduce their tax burden.

As things stand, they get to produce one set of accounts for the SEC and one for the government. It would be a great simplification and keep things honest-ish if they just paid taxes on the 10K income they report to the SEC.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (gIRsn)

158 Test.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (/KbE7)

159 I don't know, Anna. Everything he says I've seen. Shame.

Posted by: NCKate at October 11, 2017 06:21 PM (cpPGe)

160 Posted by: illiniwek at October 11, 2017 06:16 PM (/aIFg)

Because Drudge has been so dependably accurate lately?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 11, 2017 06:21 PM (rp9xB)

161

CHICAGO -- The Chicago-area's penny-per-ounce tax on soda and sweetened drinks was repealed Wednesday after a monthslong conflict that included a court battle and millions of dollars' worth of television ads on both sides.

The Cook County Board voted 15-2 to end the tax starting Dec. 1. The vote came just more than two months after the tax took effect Aug. 2.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 06:21 PM (IqV8l)

162 146 I'm going to expose myself as the dumb millennial here...

How do I stop overpaying my taxes as a state employee? It's not like I filled out a form stating that I should pay so much in taxes.

Also, if I just put in my basic info, my tax return will be about $500. It's after I scrupulously list all my itemized shit, especially "hobbies", that I get $3000.
Posted by: CPT11A at October 11, 2017 06:18 PM (rOaBQ)




I get that--I am in the same boat, and I am accordingly apprehensive about having the itemization rug pulled out from under me.

However, if in the end I am taking home more pay and paying less out than what I had to pay with this new plan, I will be happy, even if my nominal "refund" isn't so big, because that "refund" is excess withheld. So I will watch the total paid out and asee what happens.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:21 PM (ujg0T)

163 96 Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?

Up front? Nothing.

Around back? Sarah Silverman's dick.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 11, 2017 06:21 PM (7mFSe)

164 trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport

Posted by: original jake at October 11, 2017 06:22 PM (JpC9S)

165 He needs to say America over and over and over and over and over and

Posted by: Clarney at October 11, 2017 06:22 PM (FYKOB)

166 Damn phone.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:22 PM (/KbE7)

167 Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?




Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)


Soiled kleenex?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:22 PM (tbOMB)

168 Sonobi has staying power

Posted by: original jake at October 11, 2017 06:23 PM (JpC9S)

169 One Nation Under God

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:23 PM (2wRtc)

170 can't say i care overmuch about the tax cuts

we always have to get all rah-rah about shit that benefits the big wigs [and maybe us] but just pipe down about what we want

fuck that. wheres the wall. whys obamacare still in force. fuck your tax cut. tax them more.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 11, 2017 06:23 PM (z2W2E)

171

We demand all businesses and consumer products and services be taxed out of existence so the people can have them for free!

*Drools*Sharts*Eats Own Head*

Posted by: Extreme Progtard Left at October 11, 2017 06:23 PM (T/KY7)

172 Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?




Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)


A 'gina?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 06:23 PM (oVJmc)

173 Speaking of Eminem, whatever happened to Vanilla Ice? And does anybody care?

Posted by: wth at October 11, 2017 06:23 PM (HgMAr)

174 See the top story at the Daily Mail. Uncle Harvey is "suicidal" at his
daughter's LA home. He ran out of the house and tried to flag down a
passing driver to give him a ride anywhere.

And who should drive by but...A.C. Cowlings!


Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 06:24 PM (O5Q3r)

175 American flag.

Please mention the commie NFL. Please.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:24 PM (mcI77)

176 Rap crap is anti Western Civilization. Saw that coming when that shite came on the scene years ago.

Posted by: colfax mingo at October 11, 2017 06:24 PM (0n18S)

177
Yeah, we can have a low speed chase with Uncle Harvey in a white Bronco.

Whacking off in the back.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (8O3HH)

178 fuck that. wheres the wall. whys obamacare still in force. fuck your tax cut. tax them more.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 11, 2017 06:23 PM (z2W2E)




I think a better way to say it is "I don't want the good times of tax cuts masking the sociaetal pain of Obamunistcare and Immigration madness."

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (ujg0T)

179 Smooth beautiful roads...
Any way he can EO the Davis Bacon act?

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (dab45)

180
I liked when the boy M & M sang to the girl M & M.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM


Are they related to the California Raisins?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (IqV8l)

181 can't say i care overmuch about the tax cuts
we always have to get all rah-rah about shit that benefits the big wigs [and maybe us] but just pipe down about what we want
fuck that. wheres the wall. whys obamacare still in force. fuck your tax cut. tax them more
===


Ask your GOP Congress.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (2wRtc)

182 Speaking of Eminem, whatever happened to Vanilla Ice? And does anybody care?

.....

he flips mansions in FL on the DYI network

Posted by: original jake at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (JpC9S)

183 Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)
.............

Hint: it's as thick as a #2 pencil and as long as a Vienna sausage.

Posted by: wth at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (HgMAr)

184 146
I'm going to expose myself as the dumb millennial here...



How do I stop overpaying my taxes as a state employee? It's not like I filled out a form stating that I should pay so much in taxes.



Also, if I just put in my basic info, my tax return will be about $500. It's after I scrupulously list all my itemized shit, especially "hobbies", that I get $3000.

Posted by: CPT11A at October 11, 2017 06:18 PM (rOaBQ)



Adjust your withholding allowance by filing a form W4.

https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-w4

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 11, 2017 06:26 PM (tbOMB)

185 >> Soiled kleenex?

Kleenex is for pussies. Potted plants make the best cum dumpsters.

Posted by: Uncle Harvey at October 11, 2017 06:26 PM (8O3HH)

186

Jimmy has a half-used crayon in his pants?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 11, 2017 06:26 PM (T/KY7)

187 Cleveland Indians: Beat the Evil Empire tonight! Defeat the Yankees! Misery to all Yankees fans!

...and nood.

Posted by: Go Tribe: End the Evil Empire at October 11, 2017 06:27 PM (OWiRZ)

188 Enima M drinks Sunny D

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 06:27 PM (IqV8l)

189 Getting a new chronograph tomorrow that I'm all tingly about.

Posted by: Weasel at October 11, 2017 06:28 PM (Sfs6o)

190 CAesperate calls to save those trapped by fire, but emergency alert system failed many

What can't the government fuck up?

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:28 PM (mcI77)

191 Are they related to the California Raisins?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
====

I never thought about it. Maybe.

All those chocolate-covered things look the same to me.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 06:28 PM (2wRtc)

192 @grammie the event is Q Commons ( qcommons.com ) and it is October 26.

The way my church is participating is (and I think this is how it is supposed to work) that you have the three national speakers on simulcast and three locals live.

I hav not read the site to see if there is an individual stream.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:28 PM (jHrzU)

193 43 29
27 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 11, 2017 05:47 PM (LgBtw)

---------



Hello, Pete. Long time, no see. And that's quite a hash you've got yourself there.



Posted by: bluebell at October 11, 2017 05:49 PM (UoSKV)



LGBTw, LOL. The w = wanker?
--------------------

Oh my goodness.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 11, 2017 06:28 PM (K+1Wn)

194 I don't think we are really disagreeing. It's more complex than any single statement but the underlying truth is that corporate taxes are passed on to consumers one way or the other in the long run.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2017 06:20 PM (/tuJf)

And one of my big beefs is the welfare given to corporations by states. Just cut your corporate tax. Why penalize an existing company? Just cut it or eliminate the corporate tax altogether. Use that as the carrot.

Granted. Google, or some other BIGCORP, stockholders win and may live out of state. But what is gained in other ways?

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 06:28 PM (48QDY)

195 Whew it changed.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (K+1Wn)

196 I still stick to my thesis that rap music was culturally appropriateed from

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (6Ll1u)

197 "And, of course, the big story of the day (and week) here in Indy is that they opened an Ikea. I shit you not, they have been losing their minds over it all week. First one in the state, apparently, but c'mon . . ."

Big deal here in Columbus too. Even named a street after the store. Big exit on I 71. IKEA Dr.

Posted by: Tuna at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (jm1YL)

198 "Anyone want to guess what's in my pants?

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 06:04 PM (mcI77)"

Pennywise?

Posted by: BeckoniningChasm at October 11, 2017 06:29 PM (l9m7l)

199 The Beat culture of the 50's.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (6Ll1u)

200 53 George Will is disturbed by all the blue jeans dungarees[\b][\s] on all those roughnecks[\s] crabby Dungeneers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 11, 2017 05:54 PM (oVJmc)

Fixed for hoity-toity bowtie-edness
Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 05:56 PM (dab45)...


And fixeder.

Posted by: bergerbilder at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (lIZQs)

201 141 I love my President! Got the video up but couldn't get the volume loud enough to really hear it. And, of course, the big story of the day (and week) here in Indy is that they opened an Ikea. I shit you not, they have been losing their minds over it all week. First one in the state, apparently, but c'mon . . .
Posted by: Peaches at October 11, 2017 06:17 PM (14URa)



Well that's a better story than their planned what the Magillicutty's goat did.

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (z/Ubi)

202

Barrel

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (z/Ubi)

203 Nood

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (tlC78)

204 Whacking off in the back.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:25 PM (8O3HH)

With a planted pot as a hostage...

Posted by: golfman at October 11, 2017 06:30 PM (48QDY)

205 @173 Vanilla Ice is flipping houses mostly in South Florida.

It looks like he does good work. He's funny, too.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (jHrzU)

206
Oh, and the model Uncle Harvey tried to force into a three-way was Cara Delevigne. Uncle Harv had called her to his hotel for a meeting about a part in a movie. He asked her up to his room.

When she got inside, there was another woman sitting there, who sounds like a hired professional. Uncle Harvey ordered Cara to start making out with her.

She said she started singing loudly and went to leave. Uncle Harvey tried to kiss her. Singing. I guess that beats pissing or crapping yourself as the feminists advise.

Anyway, she got the part anyway, apparently.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at October 11, 2017 06:31 PM (8O3HH)

207 [\s] What can I say, The barrel misses me.

Posted by: bergerbilder at October 11, 2017 06:32 PM (lIZQs)

208
All right coppers, back off or the potted plant gets it!

Posted by: Uncle Harvey, holding his dick to a potted plant at October 11, 2017 06:32 PM (8O3HH)

209 190 CA - desperate calls to save those trapped by fire, but emergency alert system failed many

What can't the government fuck up?
Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 06:28 PM (mcI77)




And how many of that fire area was declared "Wilderness", upon which logging, livestock grazing, and brush clearing were banned, or worse, where access roads were removed?

With most great Western forest and range fires, there are eco-fiends to blame.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:33 PM (ujg0T)

210 And who should drive by but...A.C. Cowlings!


Posted by: tu3031 at October 11, 2017 06:24 PM (O5Q3r)

I lol'd!!! Wonder if many people will actually get that.

Posted by: Peaches at October 11, 2017 06:34 PM (14URa)

211 the question about Vanilla Ice caused me to look up his wiki stub.

Okay, now that gave me a good laugh! Some excerpts:

"In December 2011 he played Captain Hook in a pantomime production of Peter Pan. He also turned on the Christmas lights for Rochester, Kent."

"In May 2012 he helped in the launch of the Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast Roller Coaster at 6 Flags over Texas, and gave a Free Concert for those who had validated parking tickets."

The best of all:

"On September 15, 2013, Vanilla Ice performed at the halftime show of a Houston Texans game. The Texans went on to lose the next 14 games in a row, leading some players to blame Vanilla Ice for the losing streak."

Oh, and he recently participated in the widely known and highly consequential Juggalo March on Washington.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 06:36 PM (k1TUh)

212 80 If he ever proposed a tax break. Which he didn't. Posted by: JackStraw

Well, he did give Congress a tax break on ObamaCare.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 11, 2017 06:46 PM (Ndje9)

213 How do I stop overpaying my taxes as a state employee? It's not like I filled out a form stating that I should pay so much in taxes...
Posted by: CPT11A at October 11, 2017 06:18 PM (rOaBQ)

I get that--I am in the same boat, and I am accordingly apprehensive about having the itemization rug pulled out from under me...
Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 11, 2017 06:21

CPT...When you were first hired they had you fill out a form w/ your number of exemptions you will be taking, they figure your taxes on that. If there are just 2 of you you can claim 3 and less tax will then be taken out.

In my case, when I was farming, to avoid a lot in quarterly payments I claimed 1 rather than 2. So I had more taken out than based on my salary and paid less in quarterly payments.

Curm...I think what Trump is talking about is eliminating the itemized deduction for state and local taxes, then doubling the standard exemption. Depending on your location it could mean up down or neutral.

All just as I understand it. I've been doing my own taxes since I started working, just over 50 yrs. But that doesn't mean I'm correct on the changes.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at October 11, 2017 06:46 PM (yJ1e6)

214 "Because Drudge has been so dependably accurate lately?

Posted by polliwog

well he just posted the link. hard to say how accurate the article is

Posted by: illiniwek at October 11, 2017 06:48 PM (/aIFg)

215 The FCC assigns it to local stations.  NBC doesn't have a licence.  About 200 NBC affiliates have licences.   The licences they have aren't based on being affiliates of NBC.  They just have licences and broadcast NBC programming.   That includes news but it also includes everything else including sticoms, movies, sports, local programming etc. 

They idea that the executive branch of the government is going to pull the broadcast licence of scores of local television stations because the president doesn't like the editorial position of the news organization they broadcast is beyond laughable, illegal, and even possible.  The courts would stop that faster than you can say "Prior Restraint". 

Posted by: RD Walker at October 11, 2017 07:09 PM (o0Q4l)

216 the question about Vanilla Ice caused me to look up his wiki stub.

Okay, now that gave me a good laugh! Some excerpts:

"In December 2011 he played Captain Hook in a pantomime production of Peter Pan. He also turned on the Christmas lights for Rochester, Kent."

"In May 2012 he helped in the launch of the Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast Roller Coaster at 6 Flags over Texas, and gave a Free Concert for those who had validated parking tickets."

The best of all:

"On September 15, 2013, Vanilla Ice performed at the halftime show of a Houston Texans game. The Texans went on to lose the next 14 games in a row, leading some players to blame Vanilla Ice for the losing streak."

Oh, and he recently participated in the widely known and highly consequential Juggalo March on Washington.

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Hey, Talchm X, you seeing this?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at October 11, 2017 07:15 PM (Nwg0u)

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