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NBC News Tried to Kill Harvey Weinstein Story

Ronan Farrow published his story at the New Yorker, despite being an NBC News freelance correspondent until recently.

Why? Because NBC News claimed the story "wasn't ready for prime time."

The New Yorker seemed to disagree. So did the New York Times, which had a lot of the same reporting.

Appearing on MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show--which, like NBC, is a property of NBC Universal and its parent company Comcast--Farrow disputed what sources said was NBC News President Noah Oppenheim’s judgment this past summer that Farrow's reporting on the movie mogul and the women he allegedly harassed and assaulted wasn’t ready for prime-time.

Addressing a controversy that has been percolating for the past several days in the media ecosystem since The New York Times published its own Weinstein expose--including questions about whether NBC executives caved to the well-connected Weinstein and his formidable lawyers, Charles Harder, Lisa Bloom, and David Boies--Maddow brought it to a boiling point by telling Farrow: "NBC says that the story wasn't publishable, that it wasn't ready to go at the time that you brought it to them.”

Farrow fired back: "I walked into the door at The New Yorker with an explosively reportable piece that should have been public earlier. And immediately, obviously, The New Yorker recognized that. And it is not accurate to say that it was not reportable. In fact, there were multiple determinations that it was reportable at NBC."

...

But an NBC source promptly contradicted Farrow’s late-night claim, telling The Daily Beast in a statement: "Ronan has had a non-exclusive relationship with NBC News for the last year. He brought NBC News early reporting [on Weinstein] that didn't meet the standard to go forward with a story; it was nowhere close to what ultimately ran in The New York Times or The New Yorker--for example, at that time he didn't have one accuser willing to go on the record or identify themselves."

Well that's what an anonymous source claims. Why not put a name to that?

Another anonymous source contradicts NBC:

According to a television-industry insider familiar with Farrow's NBC News project, however, "Farrow and his producer had been working this for 10 months. They had eight interviews on camera, with a mix of silhouette and not-silhouette--so eight women speaking. They had an NYPD audio tape, and they had enough for a story. And NBC did everything they could to delay it, complicate it, and ultimately Noah [Oppenheim] killed it. NBC shut it down."

This person continued: “It is what it is, and everybody can see it. It's crazy. There's no reason, journalistically, for the story to have been killed. Obviously, there was some other reason--and I don't know what that is.”

Ken Auletta, who'd been covering Harvey Weinstein for a long time, offered his own opinion in an (unaired) interview with NBC itself: "This evidence is so overwhelming that if NBC News sits on it, that will be a scandal."

Correction: Based on the transcript of Maddow's questioning, I previously wrote that Maddow seemed to be a "worker bee" defending her employer. However, watching the video at Hot Air, she doesn't appear to be defending NBC. She seems to be asking the questions neutrally -- "NBC says this, what do you say?"

Same words, but she comes off more objective in the video.

Posted by: Ace at 01:20 PM




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1 FIRST

Posted by: sunny-dee at October 11, 2017 01:21 PM (QAOZh)

2 It's not news if the MFM says it's not news

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:21 PM (493sH)

3 Maddow doesn't give a shit about het women.

She plays for Team Trendy.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 11, 2017 01:22 PM (WDCYi)

4 Harv is a well connected friend of the Dems. That's why NBC was reluctant to go after him.

Posted by: HamiltonNJ at October 11, 2017 01:22 PM (sCjDS)

5 How often did this happen, and at how many media outlets, over the years?
Probably wasn't even the 1st Weinstein story they spiked.
Harvey's taking everyone down with him...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:23 PM (W+vEI)

6 th.

Posted by: Hillary! 2020!! at October 11, 2017 01:23 PM (ctuyM)

7 >>Harv is a well connected friend of the Dems. That's why NBC was reluctant to go after him.


Considering NBC was essentially the Obama WH press office for 8 years, was Obama protecting Harvey for a while?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:24 PM (W+vEI)

8
Ill post it again.


If you're rich and famous you can grab women by the mish.


If you're rich and famous and A LIBERAL PLAYER, progressives will let you grab other women by the mish.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:25 PM (8XRCm)

9 Everyone protects their meal ticket

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 11, 2017 01:25 PM (xJa6I)

10 Did anyone read Ronan's article? What did you think of his writing?

Posted by: Penfold at October 11, 2017 01:25 PM (Fbt5B)

11 Madcow could care less about the women Weinstein molested/raped.

I haven't watched Joe/Mika recently. Are they defending him?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 01:25 PM (PY9jH)

12 We decided to go with the exploding truck gas tank story instead.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (Uysai)

13 #FAKENEWS gotta fake.

Posted by: kallisto at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (53MZt)

14 Hear the one about Trumpian watersports?

Because us.

Hear the one about Obama snorting cocaine off a guys junk?

Because us.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (6dFYM)

15 Its always the cover up!!!

Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (hZ+us)

16 Incest is best.

Posted by: Woody Allen at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (3ubcI)

17 It's almost like the media has some sort of mailing list they keep each other informed on where they pick what everyone will report on for the day. On that note, how 'bout them Russians?

Posted by: Flyguy at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (3sOO0)

18 And when we reported on the Trump dossier, that was different so bugger off.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (Uysai)

19 8
Ill post it again.


If you're rich and famous you can grab women by the mish.


If you're rich and famous and A LIBERAL PLAYER, progressives will let you grab other women by the mish.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:25 PM (8XRCm)

More than that. They'll let you drill a canyon through her mish.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (WDCYi)

20 This would be a great opportunity to beat down the Dems since they were taking BIG money from a KNOWN abuser of women.

That is, if we had an opposition party.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (jxbfJ)

21 There is nary a peep about this in the local LA area news feeds..granted, there are more important events going on like the NoCal fires.

Posted by: IC at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (a0IVu)

22 I gotta say, it's kind of bizarre that Obvious Untelegenic Mascot Hire Ronan Farrow is the only person at NBC capable of even the most scanty traces of journalism.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (HtLSE)

23 I for one look forward to the msm/hollywood burning times. Popcorn stat!

Posted by: USNtakim at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (0OmEj)

24 Do women really want rich, powerful men to stop hitting on them?

Posted by: jwest at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (coYZ7)

25 I got a kick out of the Obama statement on Weinstein.

He was wearing his presidential work clothes in the photo, just as if he was strolling the White House grounds.

Blue suit, blue tie. Michele was even couched-out as usual too.





Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (3myMJ)

26 Hear the one about Clinton raping that woman?

We didn't even tell you WHICH Clinton!

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:27 PM (6dFYM)

27 Madcow ran a repeat of the Trump-Billy Bush pussygrab video last night. Breaking news again! Trailblazing for MSDNC!

Posted by: Very Undude at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (2X7pN)

28 You know, if Weistein decided to convert to Islam, I bet all would be forgiven.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (aT+Bx)

29 This might somehow explain the ascendance of Chuckie Todd. Somehow. Maybe.
At least it would be something.

Posted by: Burger Chef at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (RuIsu)

30 Time for another rehash of Trumps taxes.

Posted by: Very Undude at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (2X7pN)

31 Oh, it was reportable all right. That's why this story is still going after several days. That was the problem NBC had with it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (hLRSq)

32

Madcow ran a repeat of the Trump-Billy Bush pussygrab video last night.

-----

See my retort at #8.

Lather. Risnse. Repeat.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (8XRCm)

33 for example, at that time he didn't have one accuser willing to go on the record or identify themselves."

Harrumph!

Anonymous sources are only acceptable for Trump stories.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM (87y4e)

34 Probably wasn't even the 1st Weinstein story they spiked.
Harvey's taking everyone down with him...
Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:23 PM (W+vEI)

That would be nice, but everyone damaged by Weinstein will have done it to themselves, actual victims excluded.
The rest are merely being exposed.
If only he were actually prosecuted and gave up what we're all sure is real dirt on the rest of Sodom on the Pacific, that would be worth pulling out the Orville Reddenbocker.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM (z79tQ)

35 Red on Red

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM (60v4h)

36 Key Democrat donor demands pledge to impeach Trump.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/278070/

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM (rmVvL)

37 Linda Tripp is a felon and a dirty gossiper.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM (Uysai)

38 We are in the era of the Great UnMasking...

Some masks are being ripped off forcibly.... some masks are being dropped voluntarily...

but we are seeing who people really are....

and its... UGLY...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 01:30 PM (NgKpN)

39 I predict Harvey takes no one down.

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 01:30 PM (3myMJ)

40 Shocked I tells ya. Shocked!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 11, 2017 01:30 PM (XFue2)

41 By the way ace, if you're here, Lindsay Lohan is defending Weinstein:

http://tinyurl.com/ycns4xcw

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 01:30 PM (PY9jH)

42 Trump said stuff!!!!

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 11, 2017 01:30 PM (QM5S2)

43 28 You know, if Weistein decided to convert to Islam, I bet all would be forgiven.
Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (aT+Bx)

His behavior would certainly be acceptable, mainstream even, under Sharia law.

Posted by: Keith at October 11, 2017 01:30 PM (USf3s)

44 I don't know where Maddow stands on this - she brought the question up in interview with Farrow - you work for NBC, why did you give this story to The New Yorker. Farrow answered well I offered it and they didn't want it, but The New Yorker obviously thought it was well sourced enough...

I only heard that one exchange as a soundbite, but it sounded like one of two things - either Maddow had no idea that NBC had passed on it and was trying to criticize Farrow for taking what was obviously a hot story to the competition, or she was trying to criticize NBC and arranged with Farrow to ask that question.

There may be more context that makes neither of those operative or one or the other more operative, but my gut is the former - she is a True Believer so she wants to think NBC is a crusader for the wimmenz and stuff.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (1GJ2R)

45 >>This would be a great opportunity to beat down the Dems since they were taking BIG money from a KNOWN abuser of women.


That is, if we had an opposition party.


You mean like this?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918112884630093825

He's hitting NBC for a handful of things right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (W+vEI)

46
Democracy Dies in Darkness.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (BWL+E)

47 "Key Democrat donor demands pledge to impeach Trump."

He's locked up the Maxine Watters and Sheila Jackson Lee vote.

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (3myMJ)

48 Damn it, Farrow! I hired you as a quasi-Sinatra sock-puppet to stand around and look handsomely stupid! I never dreamed you'd be stupid enough to try doing your job!

Posted by: NBC exec at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (HtLSE)

49 Hear the one about JFK and his brother spit roasting those women?

Or the one about LBJ parading his junk around?

Because us.

We have decorum. It's FAMILY oriented evening news except when it's R's.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (6dFYM)

50 I mean are anybody but leftists convinced that locker room talk is the same thing as serially raping and harassing worm for years? Maddow is an idiot.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (iVOAv)

51 Farrow is not as butch as Maddow.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (/qEW2)

52 By the way ace, if you're here, Lindsay Lohan is defending Weinstein:

http://tinyurl.com/ycns4xcw

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 01:30 PM (PY9jH)



Well with Lindsay in his corner he has nothing to worry about now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (493sH)

53 Madcow ran a repeat of the Trump-Billy Bush pussygrab video last night. Breaking news again! Trailblazing for MSDNC!

Posted by: Very Undude at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (2X7pN)


I think this is the part of the movie where they throw the pistol at the monster Trump while screaming "Bullets can't stop it!"

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (hLRSq)

54
11 Madcow could care less about the women Weinstein molested/raped.

-------------

Abused women are a great source for Lesbian romantic partners. Maddow is more interested in expanding the talent pool.

Posted by: There I said it at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (4dz1m)

55 I haven't watched late night shows since Leno took over for Carson, so can someone tell me if Kimmel and Colbert said anything about Perv last night or did they stick to bravely attacking Trump?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (ZM2xo)

56 We miss Palin. So many anonymous stories we never had to work that hard to fill air time.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (Uysai)

57 16 Incest is best.
Posted by: Woody Allen at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (3ubcI)

You can't blame a guy.

Posted by: Jon Snow at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (7HtZB)

58 Well, after the GMC truck sidesaddle gas tank fiasco by Dateline back in '92, we kinda shy away from explosive stories now.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (QLvwG)

59 That would be nice, but everyone damaged by Weinstein will have done it to themselves, actual victims excluded.
The rest are merely being exposed.
If only he were actually prosecuted and gave up what we're all sure is real dirt on the rest of Sodom on the Pacific, that would be worth pulling out the Orville Reddenbocker.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM (z79tQ)

I have very little sympathy for the victims, who said NOTHING when this crap happened... yet are piling on now that it is safe to do so.

Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (NgKpN)

60 They killed it because it completely distroys their "war on women" and "Trump is a pussy grabber" vagina hat narrative.

Heh.

Maybe don't bash cops too much. They have the power to wire up your enemies, azzholes.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (6oU5/)

61 You mean like this?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918112884630093825

He's hitting NBC for a handful of things right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (W+vEI)



Is that where he wrote about nothing but fake news from NBC and the networks time to look at their licenses?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (493sH)

62 Even Horny Harvey wasn't horny enough to hit on Maddow..

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (rmVvL)

63 Katy Tur seems to be Harvey's type. I wonder...

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (OD2ni)

64 Everyone knows. Nobody talks. Everyone wants to keep the money spigot turned on, everyone wants to go to the parties, everyone wants to be liked.

Like Corey Feldman, who could name names about child rapists but doesn't.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (xJa6I)

65 Madcow jills to private Rosie tapes.

You won't see that on the evening gnus.

We're sensitive to people's feeeeeeelings.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (6dFYM)

66
Farrow is not as butch as Maddow.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (/qEW2)

------

The Marlboro Man isnt as butch as Maddow.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:34 PM (8XRCm)

67 Key Democrat donor demands pledge to impeach Trump.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/278070/

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM (rmVvL)


Trump's Victims Eager for Self-Destruction "They practically beg me to do this" billionaire president claims.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 11, 2017 01:34 PM (hLRSq)

68 What a shocking twist! What an unexpected development!

Posted by: Max Power at October 11, 2017 01:34 PM (q177U)

69 I haven't watched late night shows since Leno took over for Carson, so can someone tell me if Kimmel and Colbert said anything about Perv last night or did they stick to bravely attacking Trump?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (ZM2xo)


I think Dimmy Kimmel cried for an hour that Harvey never sexually harassed him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:34 PM (493sH)

70 Who gave Farrow his marching orders? Why did he think he could do this? What gave the initial impetus? I want the story behind the story.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 11, 2017 01:34 PM (/qEW2)

71 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918112884630093825

He's hitting NBC for a handful of things right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (W+vEI)


Trump has done it now. Jonah Goldberg AND Iowahawk are critical of them.

When Trump loses conservatives like that, no way he can win....

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 01:35 PM (1GJ2R)

72 >>>By the way ace, if you're here, Lindsay Lohan is defending Weinstein:<<<

Didn't Lindsay convert to Islam? I see a future filled with abusive behavior.

Posted by: Fritz at October 11, 2017 01:35 PM (3ubcI)

73 "Well with Lindsay in his corner he has nothing to worry about now
Posted by: TheQuietMan"


Rose McGowan had an interesting tweet about Lindsay Lohan. Basically, give her a break as going from a child star to a sex symbol fucks your brain up.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:36 PM (OD2ni)

74 NBC=No Body Count yet.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 01:36 PM (mcI77)

75 If NBC is so concerned about the public's space why don't they go for non-profit status?

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:36 PM (6dFYM)

76 Is that where he wrote about nothing but fake news from NBC and the networks time to look at their licenses?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM



This is a great move by Trump. Threaten a few licenses and see what happens. For decades this has been a rubber stamp, perhaps now its time to change that.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 11, 2017 01:36 PM (y+BJh)

77 The Marlboro Man

----------------------------

Marlboro, the pleasurable, ghey smoke.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 11, 2017 01:36 PM (SsblQ)

78 I love how just TALKING about grabbing mish makes Trump a sexual predator. Just joking about it.

Posted by: Max Power at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (q177U)

79 Las Vegas? What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Posted by: MSM at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (Uysai)

80
Madcow ran a repeat of the Trump-Billy Bush pussygrab video last night.


Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (lKyWE)

81 >>That would be nice, but everyone damaged by Weinstein will have done it to themselves, actual victims excluded.


That's what I meant. He's already taking swings at his brother as the leaker to the NYT, but he's put all of Hollywood in a position to either lie or admit they enabled his crimes. They are currently making fools of themselves trying to do this.

One example is Kate Winslet:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7a9fhlx

Another is Ben Affleck.

I think Hollywood is going to discover that most of America wants them to STFU with their moralizing and political speeches (not that they will). Celebrity worshippers are experiencing something similar to NFL fans.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (W+vEI)

82 14 Hear the one about Trumpian watersports?

Because us.

Hear the one about Obama snorting cocaine off a guys junk?

Because us.
Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:26 PM (6dFYM)


1992: Clinton has someone puffing on his peter.
2008: Obama puffed on someone's peter.

Peter Jennings: Not enough details to get all huffed
over whether a president was puffing or puffed.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (jxbfJ)

83 Sure, Harvey is an unspeakably perverted degenerate who has inflicted his twisted libido on dozens, maybe hundreds of women placed in positions of supplication and powerlessness but at least he's not a Republican.

Posted by: joncelli, giving his careful prosthesis at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (RD7QR)

84
Mad-cow ran a repeat of the Trump-Billy Bush pussygrab video last night. Breaking news again! Trailblazing for MSDNC!

Posted by: Very Undude at October 11, 2017 01:28 PM (2X7pN)

--------

Thank you for the information, but why watch the drivel?

Cut the Cord!

Posted by: There I said it at October 11, 2017 01:38 PM (4dz1m)

85 What about me?!!!!

Posted by: Bukakked Ficus at October 11, 2017 01:38 PM (89T5c)

86 71 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918112884630093825

He's hitting NBC for a handful of things right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (W+vEI)

Trump has done it now. Jonah Goldberg AND Iowahawk are critical of them.

When Trump loses conservatives like that, no way he can win....
Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 01:35 PM (1GJ2R)

Losing Iowahawk and Jonah to the side of mediocrity and mendacity hurt. I was big fan of their humor.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 11, 2017 01:38 PM (xJa6I)

87 Does the the whole Weinstein sordid mess fall under the 10 mile rule?


Posted by: Ripley at October 11, 2017 01:38 PM (MxEKc)

88 78 I love how just TALKING about grabbing mish makes Trump a sexual predator. Just joking about it.
Posted by: Max Power at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (q177U)

Ah... but its just following the left's meme that Words are Violence...

That speech can be so bad that it is OK to punch you for it...

You know... speech like, anything a Conservative would say...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 01:38 PM (NgKpN)

89 61 You mean like this?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/918112884630093825

He's hitting NBC for a handful of things right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (W+vEI)



Is that where he wrote about nothing but fake news from NBC and the networks time to look at their licenses?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (493sH)

It's nice to see in the replies that The Resistance is waging war from behind a keyboard at Starbucks.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (4ErVI)

90 Wasn't I a cute young thang?

Posted by: Miley Cyrus at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (6dFYM)

91 Re Trump and tweets, there was some guy on FBN this morning saying how Trump going after Bob Corker shows such a lack of decorum or some rubbish like that. As I was driving I was thinking..decorum? Its war, man...screw decorum.

Posted by: IC at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (a0IVu)

92 Rush thinks that they're going after Harvey because he was about to do a pro-Israel movie.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (6oU5/)

93 66 The Marlboro Man isnt as butch as Maddow.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:34 PM (8XRCm)

Are we REALLY sure that Maddow isn't just Keith Olbermann with some hair dye?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (WDCYi)

94 "I love how just TALKING about grabbing mish makes Trump a sexual predator. Just joking about it.
Posted by: Max Power"


Mike Florio's pearl clutching during that was hilarious. According to Florio, no athletes ever speak disrespectfully about women in a locker room.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (OD2ni)

95 Jonah Goldberg seems finished with that bag of dicks he was supposed to eat. he should start another one.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (NvXUV)

96 Sheesh. We got put out of business because of document shredding in one Houston office and a history of repeated flagrant, willful abuse of accounting principals and ethics but NBC continues on?

Go figure.

Posted by: Arthur Andersen at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (QLvwG)

97 83: Powerless? Or just hungry for fame?

Posted by: CN at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (W4xXw)

98 If only he were actually prosecuted and gave up what we're all sure is real dirt on the rest of Sodom on the Pacific, that would be worth pulling out the Orville Reddenbocker.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 11, 2017 01:29 PM


Now this would be an EPIC prank...overnight make a cover for the Hollywood sign that says SODOM. That would be friggin' fantastic!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (y+BJh)

99

This shit stinks!

Posted by: Maddcow's 4 AM Pinworm at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (T/KY7)

100 94 Mike Florio's pearl clutching during that was hilarious. According to Florio, no athletes ever speak disrespectfully about women in a locker room.
Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (OD2ni)

Why would an NFL player say it with their mouth when they seem more content to say it with their fist?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (WDCYi)

101 Trump's Victims Eager for Self-Destruction "They practically beg me to do this" billionaire president claims.
---

Mental illness is a bitch.

We all know this, because we're all forced to interact with mentally ill democrats daily.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (aT+Bx)

102 Test

Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (hZ+us)

103 Its war, man...screw decorum


I'm so sick of these phonies talking about "decorum." Progs are indecorous by f-ing definition. They can take their virtue signaling and stick it up their butt where they like it so much.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:41 PM (6oU5/)

104 Rush thinks that they're going after Harvey because he was about to do a pro-Israel movie.



Rush is really bringing the stupid today. First the NFL/Trump deal, now this.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 01:41 PM (XaRNh)

105 This just keeps getting better and better.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 11, 2017 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

106 Test

Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (hZ+us)



Multiple choice or essay?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:41 PM (493sH)

107
Mike Florio's pearl clutching during that was hilarious. According to Florio, no athletes ever speak disrespectfully about women in a locker room. Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (OD2ni)


But we do knock them out in hotel elevators

Posted by: Ray Rice at October 11, 2017 01:41 PM (lKyWE)

108 Sodom me? No, Sodom you!

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 01:42 PM (1GJ2R)

109
73 "Well with Lindsay in his corner he has nothing to worry about now
Posted by: TheQuietMan"


Rose McGowan had an interesting tweet about Lindsay Lohan. Basically, give her a break as going from a child star to a sex symbol fucks your brain up.
Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:36 PM (OD2ni)

Really?

Posted by: There at October 11, 2017 01:42 PM (4dz1m)

110 Got a BOD for Jonnah on the way!

Posted by: Bag of Dicks Salesman at October 11, 2017 01:42 PM (89T5c)

111 106 Test

Posted by: LASue at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (hZ+us)



Multiple choice or essay?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 01:41 PM (493sH)

D. None of the above

Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 01:42 PM (NgKpN)

112 Was a younger Alyssa Milano diddled? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 01:42 PM (mcI77)

113 What did HW have that NBC couldn't do without?

Posted by: auscolpyr at October 11, 2017 01:42 PM (suO/a)

114 95 Jonah Goldberg seems finished with that bag of dicks he was supposed to eat. he should start another one.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (NvXUV)

I'd like all those Fredocons at NR to just beat each other senseless with bags of dicks. They should stop munching and inhale. Worst people in the world. The Fredocons are more dishonest than the actual progs.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (6oU5/)

115 Meanwhile, Hollywood is busy removing Weinstein's name from anything he was involved with.

He will soon be a distant memory.

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (uLuPn)

116 I hate fucking peacocks!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (QLvwG)

117 112
Was a younger Alyssa Milano diddled? Asking for a friend.



Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 01:42 PM (mcI77)


Is she a star? Do you know her name?
Then yes.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (6oU5/)

118 90 Wasn't I a cute young thang?
Posted by: Miley Cyrus at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (6dFYM)

------------------------------------

Yes you were...

Posted by: Harvey Rat Copyright (c) Disney at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (MuTTO)

119 Corker has gone after Trump pretty hard.Was that against decorum?Fuck him.

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (rmVvL)

120 None of this Harvey stuff would be gnus if Harvey was gay.

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (6dFYM)

121 It's crazy. There's no reason, journalistically, for the story to have
been killed. Obviously, there was some other reason--and I don't know
what that is.
====================================



Seriously?

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (lwiT4)

122 115 Meanwhile, Hollywood is busy removing Weinstein's name from anything he was involved with.

He will soon be a distant memory.
Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (uLuPn)

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Damnatio Memoriae never stopped...

Posted by: Jackal at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (zwJxh)

123 "This is how you got Matt Drudge."

-- Michael Isikoff

Posted by: ShainS at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (eNTYE)

124
Is she a star? Do you know her name?Then yes.
Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (6oU5/)


She was a child star so they probably got her early

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (lKyWE)

125 Meanwhile, Hollywood is busy removing Weinstein's name from anything he was involved with.



He will soon be a distant memory.

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (uLuPn)

History management is important.

Posted by: Stalin at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (r5KeJ)

126 78 I love how just TALKING about grabbing mish makes Trump a sexual predator. Just joking about it.

Posted by: Max Power at October 11, 2017 01:37 PM (q177U)



Trump was joking about groupies and hitting on a woman who told him no and that was the end of the story.


Harvey Weinstein hits on women and when they tell him no he corners them and jerks off into a potted plant against their will.

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (cAnNx)

127
I hate fucking peacocks! Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (QLvwG)
=====

Coming from 'Beautiful Downtown Burbank'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (MIKMs)

128 It's the same good old boy network but with that special added ingredient, girls!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (e1mEI)

129 Considering NBC was essentially the Obama WH press office for 8 years, was Obama protecting Harvey for a while?
Posted by: Lizzy
.............
Breitbart reported Weinstein was at the White House 13 times during Obama's terms.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (so+oy)

130 Corker? The insider trading, pro-Iran dude? Harvey him!

Posted by: CN at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (W4xXw)

131 11 Madcow could care less about the women Weinstein molested/raped.

-------------

Abused women are a great source for Lesbian romantic partners. Maddow is more interested in expanding the talent pool.

Posted by: There I said it at October 11, 2017 01:32 PM (4dz1m)


========

I've had the same thought about Hillary. "So you'd rather have sex with men? Maybe this'll teach you".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (/qEW2)

132 If she let HARVEY do that she'll let anybody do that.

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:45 PM (6dFYM)

133 NR? I deliver several pallets of BOD daily. They gobble those down in short order!

Posted by: Bag of Dicks Salesman at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (89T5c)

134 Even Horny Harvey wasn't horny enough to hit on Maddow..

However handsome that Maddow fellow is, Harve'ys not ghey.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (60v4h)

135 Wonder if Weinstein ever grabbed Mooch?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (ul9CR)

136 If an election were held today, PDT would win going away, and exit polls would point to "He is more reasonable" as one of the key reasons.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (YBewS)

137 >>Was a younger Alyssa Milano diddled? Asking for a friend.


She has been in business with Harvey's wife for 5 years.
Don't know if that means she got more of his overtures or it helped keep him at bay...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (W+vEI)

138 Can we just burn down the legacy media? They are nothing but frauds & propagandists.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (XaRNh)

139 IMDB, seems they haven't updated the info on Weinstein yet.

Posted by: Infidel at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (NuO9F)

140 "She was a child star so they probably got her early
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic"


Yup. Just see the Jack Woltz scene in the extended version of The Godfather.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (OD2ni)

141 135
Wonder if Weinstein ever grabbed Mooch?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (ul9CR)


He seems to be heterosexual.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:47 PM (6oU5/)

142 "One example is Kate Winslet:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7a9fhlx

Posted by: Lizzy"

In here statesmen she is using the Obama method of shifting the focus/blame. Obama yapped about how we raise our kids. Winslet denounces mistreatment of women and this should not be common or acceptable ANY workplace.

News flash: that is already and has been the case. There are very few places where it isn't and one of the exceptions seem to be where YOU work.

Posted by: Ripley at October 11, 2017 01:47 PM (MxEKc)

143 Madcow doesn't just want to expand the talent pool...she wants to SWIM in it.

That's why I stay out of public pools.

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:47 PM (6dFYM)

144 119 Corker has gone after Trump pretty hard.Was that against decorum?Fuck him.
Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (rmVvL)

===========

Next up: TGE really gets nasty. It follows the pattern:

1. Someone crosses Trump.
2. Trump hits back, usually with a tweet or 2.
3. The offender takes umbrage and fires back.
4. Trump pulls out all the stops and lays waste to his target.

Posted by: Jackal at October 11, 2017 01:47 PM (zwJxh)

145 I hate fucking peacocks!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (QLvwG)

------

Then stop putting your dick in them.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (8XRCm)

146 92 Rush thinks that they're going after Harvey because he was about to do a pro-Israel movie.
Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (6oU5/)

--------------

I wouldn't doubt that. The dissonance of the left is breathtaking.

Posted by: Soona at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (ZAAkQ)

147 Rush got onto that pro-Israel movie thing because he read it in American Spectator first. (it's funny, half the time I can predict Rush's topics just by taking headlines from my morning readings)

Yeah, Harvey was going to do a movie about the Warsaw Ghetto, that would have shown the heroism of jewish resistance fighters. Big Deal.

If you believe that is the reason the NYT dumped this story, then wouldn't you believe that NBC killed the stories about him just because it loves Israel so much? Nope. Not buying it.

Sometimes Evil Men do a good thing, or plan to do a good thing, by accident. Doesn't matter, that doesn't make up for the evil. Israel is better off without the support of Evil Men like Weinstein, no matter how much money he promised to throw their way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (k1TUh)

148 Basically we need a Depends for history, so we can quickly throw it away when it gets full of shit.

Posted by: NBC at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (q177U)

149 Don't feed the plants!

Posted by: RioBravo at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (SsblQ)

150 Isn't Ronan Farrow that weaselboy child of Mia Farrow who had that flop talk show that was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread? And is Woody Allen his father? He sure would have seen sleaze close up then. Maybe he's mad about that and this is his way of getting revenge.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (lwiT4)

151 Trump and Melania are greeting Trudeau. I never realized Trudeau looks about 14. Cute wife though.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (Enq6K)

152 97 83: Powerless? Or just hungry for fame?
Posted by: CN at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (W4xXw)

Potay-to, potah-to.

Posted by: joncelli, giving his careful prosthesis at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (RD7QR)

153 You know who else "wasn't ready for prime time"?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (NjnBT)

154 If A-list actresses like Meryl Streep who are Down With Womyn's Struggles Against Men are truly appalled by Weinstein's activities and are serious about stopping the casting couch culture, they would put their money where their mouths are and do something like this:

Set-up and fund an outfit that actresses and actors can go to to make confidential sexual harassment complaints against entertainment industry personnel and get free legal help and help with taking complaints to law enforcement.

Something like that is needed if these now-shocked women want to stop the problem, because it's obvious that LA, NYC, and California State law enforcement and DA's have been enablers of the problem, and also obvious that any studio ombudsman or internal complaints departments are useless on this subject.

But I doubt Streep and others will do any such thing. Talk is cheap. Actions are often not.

Posted by: Gref at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (AMIL/)

155 None of this Harvey stuff would be gnus if Harvey was gay.

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:44 PM (6dFYM)


True, true.

From Iowahawk, a point I have been making today:

Name another industry where bosses are so utterly invincible they know they can sexually harass TERRY CREWS

Have you seen that? Terry Crews said he was at a party and a bigwig grabbed his junk. LAST YEAR. And Crews says he is too scared to name the name.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (1GJ2R)

156 Even Horny Harvey wasn't horny enough to hit on Maddow.


Horny Harvey is allergic to cashews

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (QLvwG)

157 Trudeau doesn't like 'Toxic Masculinity.'

Posted by: Under Fire at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (mcI77)

158 Meanwhile, Hollywood is busy removing Weinstein's name from anything he was involved with.

He will soon be a distant memory.

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (uLuPn)


They do want him to play nice and go quietly, don't they? The odds are that he will, someone will convince him it can all be papered over with dollars if he does. After all, that's how his world has always worked.

There is just that slim, outside, chance that he wants to pull some down with him. I don't expect it, but I would like to see it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 11, 2017 01:50 PM (hLRSq)

159 46


Democracy Dies in Darkness.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 11, 2017 01:31 PM (BWL+

***

Democracy Dies in (the) Darkness (of Harvey Weinstein's Shower).

*Updated for correctness as per Ace style guide.

Posted by: Publius Redux at October 11, 2017 01:50 PM (Fb9aZ)

160 But I doubt Streep and others will do any such thing. Talk is cheap. Actions are often not.
Posted by: Gref at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (AMIL/)

-----

They all gave Roman Polanski a Standing Ovation.

Fuck them.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:50 PM (8XRCm)

161 The Left in all its permutations has proven over and over again that no matter how scummy and perverted and prone to sexual assault you may be--if you are a powerful Lefty and write big checks to Dims or hold a high office, they will still clutch you to their chest and protect you from exposure, to wit:

BJ Clinton
Polanski
Epstien
Weinstein
Lil Antknee Weinie Wagger
Kennedys
Leahy
etc.

Powerful women on the Left enable them in order to preserve the pitiful stinking rags of feminism in which they shroud themselves.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil hear at October 11, 2017 01:50 PM (kXoT0)

162 Set-up and fund an outfit that actresses and actors can go to to make confidential sexual harassment complaints against entertainment industry personnel and get free legal help and help with taking complaints to law enforcement.

Something like that is needed if these now-shocked women want to stop the problem, because it's obvious that LA, NYC, and California State law enforcement and DA's have been enablers of the problem, and also obvious that any studio ombudsman or internal complaints departments are useless on this subject.

But I doubt Streep and others will do any such thing. Talk is cheap. Actions are often not.

Posted by: Gref at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (AMIL/)


And include child actors....of either sex. Or one of the approved 164 sexes.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 01:50 PM (Enq6K)

163 Fucking Snowbama makes Emperor Fuckstick look like a brain surgeon.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 11, 2017 01:50 PM (89T5c)

164 I have a cousin who works for a very big Hollywood talent agency that I can't name but you've all heard of. She knows tons of people in the business.

So I've heard stories, and not just about Weinstein. And a lot of those stories involve young child stars.

Some of them being mentioned...I've heard stories. Not necessarily Weinstein, but stories.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 11, 2017 01:51 PM (ul9CR)

165 Monsters covering for monsters, all for the sake of money, power and prestige.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 11, 2017 01:51 PM (NWiLs)

166 If you believe that is the reason the NYT dumped this story, then wouldn't you believe that NBC killed the stories about him just because it loves Israel so much? Nope. Not buying it.

Huh? Why would you think NBC loves Israel?



I do think the anti-colonialism thing is bigger than just regular politics.


However, most likely his brother shopped the stuff. Harvey did something to really piss him off, we don't know what yet. I'd bet it's $$ though.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:51 PM (6oU5/)

167 Trudeau looks about 14

---------------


Maybe Justy will perform an impromptu ballet dance to kick-start the press conference.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 11, 2017 01:51 PM (SsblQ)

168 137 >>Was a younger Alyssa Milano diddled? Asking for a friend.


She has been in business with Harvey's wife for 5 years.
Don't know if that means she got more of his overtures or it helped keep him at bay...
Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (W+vEI)

I did her just to say "Who's the boss? I am!"

Posted by: Harvey Weinstain at October 11, 2017 01:51 PM (7HtZB)

169 This whole story is giving me a Woody.

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 01:51 PM (Q3oNv)

170 Trump has done it now. Jonah Goldberg AND Iowahawk are critical of them.

===========================



What's Iowahawk's gripe?


Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:52 PM (lwiT4)

171 Look! An exploding pickup truck!!
WHY HASN'T THAT PICKUP TRUCK EXPLODED YET?!!
BOOM!!!
Thank you!

Posted by: Next on Dateline: NBC... at October 11, 2017 01:52 PM (O5Q3r)

172 But I doubt Streep and others will do any such thing. Talk is cheap. Actions are often not.

Posted by: Gref at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (AMIL/)

Funny you mention this. Kellyanne invited Hillary to call the White House and work on Sexual Assault. "You know the number"

Posted by: ALH at October 11, 2017 01:52 PM (uLuPn)

173
Rush thinks that they're going after Harvey because he was about to do a pro-Israel movie.
---

I'm voting "there's something really bad going on in Vegas, so they had to use this as a distraction."

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (aT+Bx)

174 What's Iowahawk's gripe?


Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:52 PM (lwiT4)

----

I think he's been a Nevertrumper from the onset.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (8XRCm)

175 Isn't 'Trudeau' French for "mish worshipper"?

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (6dFYM)

176 I don't believe that Pro-Israel movie rumor for one second.

But if it is true, thank god Harvey was taken down first.

Otherwise Weinstein would have been conflated with the movie and media would say "Israel bad". Anti-Semitism would rise. Think about it. He's so tainted, they are removing his name from entertainment movies.

And the media twists anything & everything to serve their viewpoint.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (XaRNh)

177 addendum to the Weinstein was outed because Israel story:

Doesn't matter what the NYT's motives were, doesn't matter what all the consequences were. Weinstein was evil, and it was way past time for him to go down.

Let Justice be Done, though the Heavens Fall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (k1TUh)

178 Trump and Melania are greeting Trudeau. I never realized Trudeau looks about 14. Cute wife though. Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (Enq6K)
=====

Trudeau's intellectual development is arrested at 14 as well.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (MIKMs)

179 that actresses and actors can go to to make confidential sexual harassment complaints against entertainment industry personnel and get free legal help and help with taking complaints to law enforcement.


They don't want that. They are fine with putting out if they make it big. They'd much rather shag the fat greasy creep and be a star than report him/her and not be a star.

They were paid big to suck up to Harvey and they'd do it again and millions more like them would too.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (6oU5/)

180 I have very little sympathy for the victims, who said NOTHING when this crap happened... yet are piling on now that it is safe to do so.

Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (NgKpN)

I agree, yet know that there are many women who were victims, never became famous, and yet said nothing because he was that powerful. They put it in the past to help forget and aren't speaking now. The me-too class of star that piles on now elicits nothing.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (z79tQ)

181 Another thing not that many people realize: Joseph Kennedy Sr. was a movie producer in the early days of movies, and was Harvey Weinstein long before Harvey Weinstein

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (rX06+)

182 Isn't 'Trudeau' French for "mish worshipper"?
--

Nah.

"Beta Mommy Lover"


Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (aT+Bx)

183 >>>78 I love how just TALKING about grabbing mish makes Trump a sexual predator. Just joking about it.

Everyone on AOSHQ is a sexual predator!!11!

Posted by: Rachel "not into cock" Maddox at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (YAUxE)

184 16 Incest is best.

Relatively speaking...

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (nn8uQ)

185 Onan Weinstein shoots it into plants.

'He hates these plants! Stay away from the plants!'

Posted by: Navin R. Johnson at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (QLvwG)

186 151
Trump and Melania are greeting Trudeau. I never realized Trudeau looks about 14. Cute wife though.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (Enq6K)
What is Melania wearing?

Posted by: IC at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (a0IVu)

187
I never realized Trudeau looks about 14.

He is a 45 year old man who looks like he's 25 and speaks as though he's 5.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (BWL+E)

188 How about my boy?! He did it his way!

Posted by: Zombie Sinatra at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (bc2Lc)

189 Dumbass Trudeaus dad was a notorious mish masher..

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (rmVvL)

190 The dems and media are already anti-Israel. They don't want any pro-Israel stuff out there.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (6oU5/)

191 I agree, yet know that there are many women who were victims, never
became famous, and yet said nothing because he was that powerful. They
put it in the past to help forget and aren't speaking now. The me-too
class of star that piles on now elicits nothing.
---

I think I've read in a few places that women did try to fight him, but nothing ever came of it. "Declined to investigate/ prosecute."


Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (aT+Bx)

192 I think he's been a Nevertrumper from the onset.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (8XRCm)
=======================

He should get over it then. Trump is president and he's doing conservate-ish things. Maybe he should stop cruising diners and pay attention to life as we know it.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (lwiT4)

193 Did Harvey harrass me? Tune in tomorrow on "Megyn!".

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (O5Q3r)

194 " Joseph Kennedy Sr. was a movie producer in the early days of movies, and was Harvey Weinstein long before Harvey Weinstein"

And here I just thought he ran booze to Boston and guns to Belfast.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (k1TUh)

195 Isn't Ronan Farrow that weaselboy child of Mia Farrow who had that flop talk show that was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread? And is Woody Allen his father? He sure would have seen sleaze close up then. Maybe he's mad about that and this is his way of getting revenge.
Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:48 PM (lwiT4)

Yeah, he's Mia's kid, but, Frank Sinatra is his Dad. He lived with Mia during Woody's seduction of Mia's underage daughter, Soon Yi. I agree that he's a flake, but, he's had a ringside seat to observe how the Left deals with male sexual predators. Woody came out the hero in the whole mess and Mia lost her career. I never got the allure of Woody Allen--I would rather get a pedicure done by a blind man using garden shears than watch one of his movies.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil hear at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (kXoT0)

196 Monsters covering for monsters, all for the sake of money, power and prestige.



Oh my gosh, I LOVE that!

That should be the new tagline for Washington Post. And the NYPost, and all the legacy media.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (XaRNh)

197 This whole story is giving me a Woody.

Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at October 11, 2017 01:51 PM (Q3oNv)


Leave my buddy out of this you sick twisted freak!

Posted by: Buzz Lightyear at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (QLvwG)

198 He is a 45 year old man who looks like he's 25 and speaks as though he's 5.
--

He is the Perfect Liberal Man.

Pretty.
Stupid.
Does what his woman says.

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)

199 Well, there goes another American institution the Progs have destroyed.

The Boy Scouts of America have announced they will begin accepting girls throughout their ranks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (PY9jH)

200 It's hard to believe that Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion, who fear anyone.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (60v4h)

201
We know Margaret Trudeau is his mother, but who's his father?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (BWL+E)

202 New York Times...not Post

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (XaRNh)

203 And here I just thought he ran booze to Boston and guns to Belfast.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (k1TUh)

Nope, look up his antics with Gloria Swanson.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil hear at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (kXoT0)

204 >>>He's so tainted

His taint is the least objectionable part of him.

#YesAllPlants

Posted by: Traumatized Ficus at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (YAUxE)

205
Did Harvey harrass me? Tune in tomorrow on "Megyn!".
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at October 11, 2017 01:55 PM (O5Q3r)


Will you have blood coming out of your eyes?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (lKyWE)

206 who fear?

would fear



FMF

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 11, 2017 01:57 PM (60v4h)

207 So NBC told reporters to keep quiet if they knew what was good for their future employment prospects?

Interesting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 11, 2017 01:57 PM (0jCTy)

208 What is Melania wearing?

Posted by: IC at October 11, 2017 01:54 PM (a0IVu)


Grey pinstriped suit, white blouse with a black long scarf.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 01:57 PM (Enq6K)

209 174 What's Iowahawk's gripe?




Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:52 PM (lwiT4)


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I think he's been a Nevertrumper from the onset.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (8XRCm)

Yup. As funny as he is, I unfollowed him over that.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:57 PM (6oU5/)

210 I have very little sympathy for the victims, who said NOTHING when this
crap happened... yet are piling on now that it is safe to do so.



Posted by: Don Q. at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (NgKpN)
=========================


I have extreme amounts of sympathy if any of these victims were under age. It would seem to me that age of consent would mean little to men like him.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:57 PM (lwiT4)

211 We know Margaret Trudeau is his mother, but who's his father?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (BWL+E)

Look at pictures of a young lightly bearded Fidel Castro and you tell me.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now with a tiny wizened charcoal grey lump that is the McEvil hear at October 11, 2017 01:57 PM (kXoT0)

212 I'd have thrown that little shit into the Atlantic if I'd known how much of a pussy he'd grow up to be.

Posted by: Zombie Fidel at October 11, 2017 01:58 PM (SkuXa)

213 There was 1 way for Farrow to get his piece aired, apparently he hates cock.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 11, 2017 01:58 PM (4e+hS)

214 I'm voting "there's something really bad going on in Vegas, so they had to use this as a distraction."
Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (aT+Bx)
***************
There is also something bad going in in Nor Cal with 17 fires clustered in one area.

This is shaping up to be the 2nd worst fire disaster since the Oakland Hills fire.

One fire has been blamed on a PG&E power line but the windstorm that damaged it didn't start fires outside a fairly clustered area.

Too many fires clustered in three areas....and others started where there are few/no people. It's been going on for a couple years now.

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:58 PM (6dFYM)

215 The Boy Scouts of America have announced they will begin accepting girls throughout their ranks.

Just like Little League, and it's going to have the same attrition rate. Few girls have the same outdoor interests as boys.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 11, 2017 01:58 PM (60v4h)

216 I've dated redheads, hairdressers and girls named Tiffany, but I never had an evening end by jerking off into a potted plant.

Now I feel like I've missed out on something.

Damn you, Harvey Weinstein.

Posted by: jwest at October 11, 2017 01:59 PM (coYZ7)

217 Still can't help wondering why HW?, and why now?

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 01:59 PM (dab45)

218 I still think that perhaps Ronan Farrow was sick to death of sexual predators in Hollywood, and wanted to clean house. A big F-U to daddy Woody Allen.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 01:59 PM (lwiT4)

219 Can't let boys have anything uniquely their own anymore. GRRRRL PWRRR.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:00 PM (PY9jH)

220 Harvey Weinstein was the second shooter!!1!!!

And the first, as well!!!!

Posted by: The Japanese Peace Lily at October 11, 2017 02:00 PM (oVJmc)

221 Why even bother having Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts?

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 02:00 PM (rmVvL)

222 Hey, let's send early adolescents on co-ed camping trips! Nothing could go wrong there!

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 02:00 PM (6oU5/)

223 >>Set-up and fund an outfit that actresses and actors can go to to make
confidential sexual harassment complaints against entertainment industry
personnel and get free legal help and help with taking complaints to
law enforcement.



What I'd like to know is why no one has mentioned the Hollywood unions.

Isn't this something the Screen Actors Guild would be charged with addressing? This union is always run by an actor, so why are they not fighting on behalf of their fellow actors and actresses against systemic abuse?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 02:00 PM (W+vEI)

224 I think he's been a Nevertrumper from the onset.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 01:53 PM (8XRCm)

Yup. As funny as he is, I unfollowed him over that.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:57 PM (6oU5/)


Have any NeverTrumpers flipped to Trumpers?

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (Enq6K)

225 Losing Iowahawk and Jonah to the side of mediocrity and mendacity hurt.

The mendacity in particular - "how dare Trump talk about yanking broadcast licenses for fake news!"

Of course, an entity's entitlement to use the airwaves is not absolute, the FCC has a good amount of discretion which covers all manner of reasons. There is not an absolute first amendment right to broadcast over the airwaves.

Even if, as you could argue, it's necessary for their freedom of the press, their ability to slander is not absolute. DUH.

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (HtLSE)

226
The Boy Scouts of America have announced they will begin accepting girls throughout their ranks.


Yet, female-only institutions must be maintained because Safe Space.

Posted by: The Japanese Peace Lily at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (oVJmc)

227 Iowahawk appears grumpy because Trump said something dorky about NBC's license. Come on, that's just clickbait for the left to get rabid over.

All of us who supported Trump have been trying to tell you for a year or two now, always take Trump seriously, but never take him literally.

He talks crap, that's what he does. Get over it. He still gets things done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (k1TUh)

228 On the bright side I guess having girls around will spoil the homo Scoutmasters hunting....

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (rmVvL)

229
Still can't help wondering why HW?, and why now?
Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 01:59 PM (dab45)


To drive a stake through the heart of the Clinton's so democrats don't have to deal with her in 2020?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (lKyWE)

230 Why even bother having Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts?

Posted by: steevy

___

I doubt there will be even a question about the PP Scouts allowing boys in. The goal is only to destroy male organizations.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (7ZVPa)

231 Trudeau's daddy could be any sperm donor in Studio 54.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (89T5c)

232 Have any NeverTrumpers flipped to Trumpers?
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 02:01 PM (Enq6K)

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ACE!!!!


Though it was a tortuous process and I was worried.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (8XRCm)

233 Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 01:59 PM (dab45)

Someone or several people speculated that Harvey gave money to Hillary was a big Hillary supporter, and that this is Obama's attempt to get Hillary finally out of the picture so that what's her name-kampala Harris can run in 2020.

I hope it's that and not some picture of Trump and Weinstein yukking it up will come out or more allegations against Trump, although I think the latter would have been used during the campaign if that as the case.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (iVOAv)

234 Re: naval collisions. Cars (most dangerous) travel one dimensionally. Ships two dimensionally. Planes three dimensionally, and they are the safest. Just figure out some way of making all ships into submarines and they will be able to travel 3d as well. Problem solved. Submersible aircraft carrier.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (/qEW2)

235 What's Iowahawk's gripe?


Trump is twitter competition.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (60v4h)

236 Good on Ronan Farrow.

If you read the New Yorker story, it is an example of real journalism. I have not seen that in AGES. The facts & people speak for themselves. I miss this.

Most news these days is opinion.

Ronan did not make this story about himself.

But NBC, like all the outlets, have been smothering this story with a pillow, trying to kill it, for years & years.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (XaRNh)

237 What's Iowahawk's gripe?
______________

Some people just can't admit they were wrong.

Posted by: John Marston at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (SkuXa)

238 So the Girl Scouts are finally letting boys in?

*passes out*

Posted by: 16 Y/O with a woody. at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (6dFYM)

239 None of what happened with Weinstein surprised me. The phrase "casting couch' predates color movies.

The only surprise is that it was reported at all and how much damage it might do to the Hollywood bubble.

Posted by: Big V at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (MVE/7)

240 Iowahawk appears grumpy because Trump said something dorky about NBC's license.

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Of course stations (a few are owned by NBC) have licenses; networks don't.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 11, 2017 02:03 PM (SsblQ)

241 222 Hey, let's send early adolescents on co-ed camping trips! Nothing could go wrong there!
Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 02:00 PM (6oU5/)


Well, at least the girls can't get pregnant if they have sex in the woods.

(that's what I would be telling the girls if I was a Boy Scout)

Posted by: jwest at October 11, 2017 02:03 PM (coYZ7)

242 ACE!!!!


Though it was a tortuous process and I was worried.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (8XRCm)


Much like his shelving adventure.


But was he really a NeverTrumper? I thought he was kinda a MehTrumper in the beginning.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 02:03 PM (Enq6K)

243 Rotten to the core.

Is it any wonder the culture has been poisoned by hollywood?

Posted by: simplemind at October 11, 2017 02:04 PM (/mfFX)

244 I think he's been a Nevertrumper from the onset.
===

I used to be a big fan. Stopped following about a year ago.
Hard to laugh along with a guy who willfully blinds himself to the existential threat.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 02:04 PM (NjnBT)

245 239 Actor was long a synonym for whore.

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 02:04 PM (rmVvL)

246 OT/ - Oxford has lifted its ban on a Christian Student group, apparently after some negative feedback. Oxford had originally banned the Christians due to "their harmful effects on students."


And we wonder why we find ourselves in this mess.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:04 PM (lwiT4)

247 Posted by: Gref at October 11, 2017 01:49 PM (AMIL/)

That might help with the coerced casting couch, but there will always be people of both sexes willing to go on the casting couch for work.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 02:05 PM (kuFbc)

248 Wonder if Weinstein ever grabbed Mooch?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 11, 2017 01:46 PM (ul9CR)



By the junk?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 02:05 PM (493sH)

249 Hah! You said "Rachel Maddow" and "Objective" in the same sentence. That's hilarious.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (UfYsr)

250

All of these "gatekeepers" and mini-gatekeepers have lost so much money with Trump's win and Hillary's loss. It's no wonder they have lost their minds.

instapundit:

THIS WILL NOT PLAY OUT WELL FOR THEM: Pledge to Impeach Trump, a Key Donor Demands of Democrats.

Tom Steyer, a billionaire California investor who spent more than $91 million supporting Democrats in the 2016 elections, issued the demand to his party in a letter on Wednesday. In his message, Mr. Steyer described Mr. Trump as a "clear and present danger to the republic" and called on Democrats to pledge that they would seek to remove him from office if they take control of Congress next year.

Mr. Steyer -- who is considering a run for Senate, perhaps against Senator Dianne Feinstein, a fellow Democrat -- cited a range of acts by Mr. Trump to justify impeachment, including the president's "relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia," allegations that Mr. Trump has used the presidency to "promote his own business interests" and his "seeming determination to go to war."

Democrats helped cover for Harvey Weinstein for years, and he doesn't have anything like Steyer's money.


he threw $91 million down the drain
let that sink in

gatekeeper maximus

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (fceHP)

251 Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:04 PM (lwiT4)

Wow; I'm surprised that Oxford even had a Christian group.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (iVOAv)

252 92 Rush thinks that they're going after Harvey because he was about to do a pro-Israel movie.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (6oU5/)

I don't. It's the money because it's always about the money and he wasn't getting it done anymore.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (4ErVI)

253


But was he really a NeverTrumper? I thought he was kinda a MehTrumper in the beginning.


Ace was having meltdowns over Trump. He was very anti- at several points.

Posted by: The Japanese Peace Lily at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (oVJmc)

254 >>>Ken Auletta, who'd been covering Harvey Weinstein for a long time

ewww

Posted by: m at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (1Xpas)

255 Much like his shelving adventure.


But was he really a NeverTrumper? I thought he was kinda a MehTrumper in the beginning.
Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 02:03 PM (Enq6K)


Let's hope he isn't under the shelf when it comes crashing down - along with a big chunk of drywall with anchors in it.

Posted by: jwest at October 11, 2017 02:07 PM (coYZ7)

256 >>>Ace was having meltdowns over Trump. He was very anti- at several points.
Posted by: The Japanese Peace Lily at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (oVJmc)

maybe "slow to embrace"

Posted by: m at October 11, 2017 02:07 PM (1Xpas)

257 Ugh. New pest co. guy was just here. He sez girls in the Boy Scouts is great, because he has daughters and the Girl Scouts are boring.

Also, told me he loves spiders.

So there's that.

:X

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:07 PM (PY9jH)

258 Look you wingnuts don't believe us anyways. So we're just dropping the news before we report it. Saves time for more ads.

Posted by: Not Broadcasting Clintonite fails at October 11, 2017 02:07 PM (FhXTo)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:07 PM (PY9jH)

260 201
We know Margaret Trudeau is his mother, but who's his father?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 11, 2017 01:56 PM (BWL+E)

Margaret was a free spirit during the '70s and so was her hoo-hoo.

Posted by: joncelli, giving his careful prosthesis at October 11, 2017 02:07 PM (RD7QR)

261 What I'd like to know is why no one has mentioned the Hollywood unions.

Isn't this something the Screen Actors Guild would be charged with addressing? This union is always run by an actor, so why are they not fighting on behalf of their fellow actors and actresses against systemic abuse?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 02:00 PM (W+vEI)

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I hadn't thought of that. Good point. Another example of how the existing organizations, from the unions to law enforcement to studio internal "policing" outfits have been useless on this subject.

Sounds like a situation the Federal Department of Justice could look into, if Jeff Sessions wants to. How could Hollywood (credibly) complain?

Posted by: Gref at October 11, 2017 02:08 PM (AMIL/)

262 Horde, there is no easy way to tell you this so I'm just going to come right out and say it.

Mommy, who gets mad when people say damn on the teevee, just called someone (NOT ME) a jackass when I was talking to her on the phone.

RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! FLEE NOW!

For those that wonder, no, I do not swear in front of my parents. This does lead to a rather significant amount of revision when relating conversations to them. Boy BFF, because he's my BFF and thus an asshole, always took great delight in trying to provoke me into swearing if he was around when I was on the phone with my parents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 11, 2017 02:08 PM (mf5HN)

263 Ace was having meltdowns over Trump. He was very anti- at several points.

Posted by: The Japanese Peace Lily at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (oVJmc)


He did get a little crazy about that arms deal between Michelle Fields and Lewondowski.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 02:08 PM (Enq6K)

264 When Hollywood crumbles and is replaced by CGI, where then will we look for degeneracy and debauchery? Sexbots and pervy AI?

Posted by: Fritz at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (2Mnv1)

265 Like Corey Feldman, who could name names about child rapists but doesn't.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 11, 2017 01:33 PM (xJa6I)


he might be afraid for his life
but now the cat's out of the bag, he could probably do it now

another male actor came out recently

they need courage

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (fceHP)

266 I want the lid torn off all this. All the stories told. All those buried exclusives ran. All the execs torn apart. And its like this in the music business too, there's no difference. It all needs to burn down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (39g3+)

267
"The Boy Scouts of America have announced they will begin accepting girls throughout their ranks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh"

Decided not to have my sons participate this year. Partially because of the homosexual policy, partial because creeping PC and largely because excessive rules and obsession with SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY. My kids sneer at their idiot-proof camping in which for example, they can't even touch the fire or shoot a BB gun without direct supervision when they have been already been doing that at home for at least a couple years.

Posted by: Ripley at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (MxEKc)

268 But was he really a NeverTrumper? I thought he was kinda a MehTrumper in the beginning.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 02:03 PM (Enq6K)


People have short memories. ace was so anti-Trump he was pro Hillary for a while. And he was mad mad mad at commenters who were pro Trump, that they were willing to throw it all away for such a terrible person.

He was so #nevertrump that when he flipped to #reluctanttrump his twitter tagline was still a vicious cut on Trump. For weeks.


Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (1GJ2R)

269 This might somehow explain the ascendance of Chuckie Todd. Somehow. Maybe.
At least it would be something.
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I think this bears serious consideration.

Chuck doesn't have a college degree (not that there's anything wrong with that). How does one get into NBC News in the first place, then ascend in the NBC News racket to point of hosting Meet the Press without any credentials?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (vg8iE)

270 So linking HW to Clintons is working theory, but seems more like what they'd do to Repubs, trying to tie donor behavior to the politician. Unless they have something that really links Clintons to knowing about/sanitizing HW actions I can't see the linkage working

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (dab45)

271 >>>>>Just figure out some way of making all ships into submarines and they will be able to travel 3d as well. Problem solved. Submersible aircraft carrier.
.
.
.Been there and did that.

Posted by: Imperial Japanese Navy in WWII at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (Vz9Up)

272 alex - was your mom angry at one of the medical staff? Is your dad still in the hospital?

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (lwiT4)

273
"Have any NeverTrumpers flipped to Trumpers?"

Eric Ericsson may have, to a certain extent, although I don't read him anymore.

But for most of them. I don't think they can - they took that position because they were so proud that they Could Not Stand for any challenge to their Precious Political Essence, plus they were figured they were so smart that they would of course be proved right in the end.

To walk it back would mean swallowing a lot of their pride, and I think we're seeing very well just who can and who cannot ever do that. Iowahawk may be clever enough to exist on the sidelines of punditry, although I think he'll find it disappointing to just be considered an also ran from everyone from now on.

But for most of the never-trumpers like Max Boot, Bill Kristol-nacht and the entire remaining staff of the National Review, rhe right is done with them, and the left will always hate them. I foresee a grinding descent into total obscurity and unemployment, except in either the food service or home sanitation industries, for all of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (k1TUh)

274 264 When Hollywood crumbles and is replaced by CGI, where then will we look for degeneracy and debauchery? Sexbots and pervy AI?
Posted by: Fritz at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (2Mnv1)

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Then we become Japan.

Posted by: Soona at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (ZAAkQ)

275 maybe "slow to embrace"
Posted by: m at October 11, 2017 02:07 PM (1Xpas)


If "slow to embrace" is synonymous with "dragged kicking and screaming".

Posted by: jwest at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (coYZ7)

276 None of this Harvey stuff would be gnus if Harvey was gay.

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Harvey Milk at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (3C9q2)

277 Mommy, who gets mad when people say damn on the teevee, just called someone (NOT ME) a jackass when I was talking to her on the phone.

I guess the stress and worry about your dad has understandably gotten to her?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (iVOAv)

278 He was so #nevertrump that when he flipped to #reluctanttrump his twitter tagline was still a vicious cut on Trump. For weeks.


Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (1GJ2R)

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Well.... in his defense.... it wouldnt be the first time he misplaced a password and locked himself out.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

279 Mr. Steyer described Mr. Trump as a "clear and present danger to the republic" and called on Democrats to pledge that they would seek to remove him from office if they take control of Congress next year.
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Bleed em dry, PDT.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 02:11 PM (NjnBT)

280 None of this Harvey stuff would be gnus if Harvey was gay.
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And I would have a better job!

Posted by: Shep! at October 11, 2017 02:11 PM (vg8iE)

281 Now breitbart is reporting that these poor babies were threatened and forced to wear expensive Marchesa gowns on the " red carpet" in order to have Harvey back their films? The horror of it all! I'm so sick of these spoiled people

Posted by: CN at October 11, 2017 02:11 PM (W4xXw)

282 Ace was having meltdowns over Trump. He was very anti- at several points.

Posted by: The Japanese Peace Lily at October 11, 2017 02:06 PM (oVJmc)

=====

DJT has really grown on me. I especially like his tweets. Morning news is fun again. And I'm a hard-core polite Midwesterner who has very little respect for the parochial narrow-minded coasties.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 11, 2017 02:11 PM (MIKMs)

283 My husband is a Scout leader and so is our son.

They are an actual BOY Scout troop. No PC crap. Lots of hiking, camping, shooting, archery, the whole deal.

They are pissed as hell over the GRRRLLLLS in Scouting thing.

Hey, girls. You find the Grrrrrl Scouts boring? Get your moms off their butts and do something about it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:11 PM (PY9jH)

284 I didn't say "I want you to KILL the kid.", I said "I want you to kill the KID??"

Posted by: Ruth at October 11, 2017 02:11 PM (loZXu)

285 "Why even bother having Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts?"

To fund Planned Parent-Not and gay rights, you silly.

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 02:12 PM (3myMJ)

286 I want the lid torn off all this. All the stories told. All those
buried exclusives ran. All the execs torn apart. And its like this in
the music business too, there's no difference. It all needs to burn
down.
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What are the odds that children are involved in the abuse?

What are the odds politicians are directly involved in the abuse?

Posted by: shibumi at October 11, 2017 02:12 PM (aT+Bx)

287 Well, at least the girls can't get pregnant if they have sex in the woods.



(that's what I would be telling the girls if I was a Boy Scout)

Posted by: jwest at October 11, 2017 02:03 PM (coYZ7)

---------------------------------
Pregnancy wasn't a problem in the Scouts when it was just the gay sex. Now the Scouts will be just like the US Navy. Well, they might be able to drive better.

Posted by: RioBravo at October 11, 2017 02:12 PM (SsblQ)

288 Even Jake Tapper is commenting that scum like Weinstein get away with it because reporters spike stories about their evil deeds. What about now? What stories are killed that should be told? Is he going to step up?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 11, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)

289
It would seem to me that age of consent would mean little to men like him.

Posted by: grammie winger
__________________________

Hey!!! Don't drag me into this....

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 11, 2017 02:12 PM (qwWmT)

290 Mr. Steyer described Mr. Trump as a "clear and present danger to the republic" and called on Democrats to pledge that they would seek to remove him from office if they take control of Congress next year.
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They really do want bad things to happen, don't they? They have no idea the hell they would unleash with the public (at least I hope).

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 11, 2017 02:12 PM (vg8iE)

291 .....the right is done with them, and the left will always hate them.

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Oooooo.

The National Review Meagan Kelley'd themselves.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 02:12 PM (8XRCm)

292 What are the odds that children are involved in the abuse?

What are the odds politicians are directly involved in the abuse?


What are the odds that this is far bigger than just a naughty exec, but is instead part of not just a culture of abuse and sexual molestation, but a network?

Where do you think Pedo Isle got its victims from?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (39g3+)

293
What are the odds that children are involved in the abuse?

What are the odds politicians are directly involved in the abuse?


Posted by: shibumi


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Very high. Extremely high.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (7ZVPa)

294 he might be afraid for his life
but now the cat's out of the bag, he could probably do it now


Feldman says nope, not gonna say. He doesn't want to get sued. He says if someone else comes out with a lawsuit he would be glad to help.

But he basically has a decent enough gig now and he doesn't want to lose it.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (1GJ2R)

295 Chuck doesn't have a college degree (not that there's anything wrong with that). How does one get into NBC News in the first place, then ascend in the NBC News racket to point of hosting Meet the Press without any credentials?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (vg8iE)

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Sucking cheesy dicks isn't just restricted to Hollywood.

Posted by: Soona at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (ZAAkQ)

296 Weiner/Weinstein (Weinerstein) 2020!!!

The bridge from the 20st Century duo of Kennedy/Clinton -- with bigger and better orgies ...

Posted by: ShainS at October 11, 2017 02:14 PM (eNTYE)

297 Chuck doesn't have a college degree (not that there's anything wrong
with that). How does one get into NBC News in the first place, then
ascend in the NBC News racket to point of hosting Meet the Press without
any credentials?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (vg8iE)



Ask Matt Lauer. He never spent a day in college.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:14 PM (PY9jH)

298 And he was mad mad mad at commenters who were pro Trump, that they were willing to throw it all away for such a terrible person.
====

He got better.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 02:14 PM (NjnBT)

299 With that much money and a huge grudge against Trump Mr. Steyer sounds like a clear and present danger to the Republic,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:15 PM (iVOAv)

300 I was anti-Trump/pro-Cruz for quite a while.

And then I grew out of it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:15 PM (PY9jH)

301 I want the lid torn off all this. All the stories told. All those buried exclusives ran. All the execs torn apart. And its like this in the music business too, there's no difference. It all needs to burn down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (39g3+)



I agree with every word of this.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 11, 2017 02:15 PM (mf5HN)

302 >>Chuck doesn't have a college degree (not that there's anything wrong
with that). How does one get into NBC News in the first place, then
ascend in the NBC News racket to point of hosting Meet the Press without
any credentials?


IIRC, his wife has a Democrat Political PR consulting company.
Convenient when your hubby can "interview" your clients, or aggressively interview your client's opponents, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 02:16 PM (W+vEI)

303 Ask Matt Lauer. He never spent a day in college.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:14 PM (PY9jH)
=====

Amazing, isn't it? But, out here in the real world, they want you to have a Master's Degree just to answer phones. There's some nasty, nasty shit going on at NBC (and everywhere else).

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 11, 2017 02:16 PM (vg8iE)

304 Sorry Corey, it's now or never dude.

Posted by: John Marston at October 11, 2017 02:16 PM (SkuXa)

305 Hey sweet tits! Time to earn the sammich making badge!

Posted by: Eagle Scout with raging boner at October 11, 2017 02:16 PM (89T5c)

306 So a potted plant could be the downfall of Hollywood and Democrats?

Isn't this the story of Gaylord also?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 02:17 PM (QvC3K)

307 300: Me, too. Ultimately Trump was the only one who had the star power to defeat the beast

Posted by: CN at October 11, 2017 02:17 PM (W4xXw)

308
297 Chuck doesn't have a college degree (not that there's anything wrong
with that). How does one get into NBC News in the first place, then
ascend in the NBC News racket to point of hosting Meet the Press without
any credentials?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (vg8iE)


Ask Matt Lauer. He never spent a day in college.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:14 PM (PY9jH)








Peter Jennings was a high school dropout.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 11, 2017 02:17 PM (eXA4G)

309 that they were willing to throw it all away for such a terrible person.

By all rational measures (except winning) he was a terrible choice. We're way beyond rational measures now.

Posted by: DaveA at October 11, 2017 02:17 PM (FhXTo)

310 Decided not to have my sons participate this year. Partially because of the homosexual policy, partial because creeping PC and largely because excessive rules and obsession with SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY. My kids sneer at their idiot-proof camping in which for example, they can't even touch the fire or shoot a BB gun without direct supervision when they have been already been doing that at home for at least a couple years.
Posted by: Ripley at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (MxEKc)

The Indian Guides and Indian princesses programs a GREAT if you have them in your area. Dads and their kids. Fun for kids, fun for dads. Only moderately structured. A big plus is that kids get to be kids during the off time without a hover parent dictating every second of play. For dads it's like a fishing trip a fire, some beverages the kids cousins and 20 "uncle mikes."

Posted by: Keith at October 11, 2017 02:17 PM (USf3s)

311 If the Scouts admit girls then, like the US Navy, they should be prepared for consequences like pregnancy.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 11, 2017 02:17 PM (LISuA)

312 >>>But he basically has a decent enough gig now and he doesn't want to lose it.

Talking about Corey Feldman?? What is the gig, opening act for puppet show??

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (SUuNs)

313 Feldman says nope, not gonna say. He doesn't want
to get sued. He says if someone else comes out with a lawsuit he would
be glad to help.



But he basically has a decent enough gig now and he doesn't want to lose it.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (1GJ2R)
===========================

I have very little sympathy for that argument. Sexual predators who prey on children usually do not start and stop with just one child. I have very little sympathy, in fact none, for someone to stand on the sidelines and - oh well oops! - it just happened again. To somebody else.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (lwiT4)

314 He did get a little crazy about that arms deal between Michelle Fields and Lewondowski.

Posted by: Tami
==============
*golf clap*

Posted by: simplemind at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (k9/M0)

315 Feldman says nope, not gonna say. He doesn't want to get sued. He says if someone else comes out with a lawsuit he would be glad to help.

But he basically has a decent enough gig now and he doesn't want to lose it.
Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (1GJ2R)

------

If he has come to peace with what was done to him.... I say more power to him.

Leave him be.

Those people are much bigger and better people than I am. Because of that happened to me... or my kids.... Im going to prison.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (8XRCm)

316 So, a girl can now advance from a weeblo to a spread eagle scout?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (7ZVPa)

317 308 And pompous Peter had his nose so high up in the air he was a danger to low flying aircraft...

Posted by: steevy at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (rmVvL)

318 Peter Jennings was a high school dropout.
_______________

Propagandists require less skill than burger flippers. Good to know.

Posted by: John Marston at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (SkuXa)

319 Tom Steyer was the one who pushed the entire eco-danger theme the Democrats tried to work in 2016, and it's a pretty good bet that the entire farcical camp in North Dakota, trying to stop the pipeline, was personally organized and paid for by Tom Steyer.

The "protesters" there were all being given free plane fare, plus further transportation to the camp, plus a weekly cash stipend for staying.

Ever wonder why it all dried up and disappeared so quickly? About the time Trump was inaugurated it became clear it was all for nothing, and the money dried up.

And just like that - Poof! - it was gone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (k1TUh)

320 "Feldman says nope, not gonna say."

So he's an accessory to a crime?

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (3myMJ)

321 People have short memories. ace was so anti-Trump he was pro Hillary for a while. And he was mad mad mad at commenters who were pro Trump, that they were willing to throw it all away for such a terrible person.

He was so #nevertrump that when he flipped to #reluctanttrump his twitter tagline was still a vicious cut on Trump. For weeks.


Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (1GJ2R)


Ok, now that y'all are taking me on a trip down memory lane...yeah, he was a NeverTrumper. I think I stopped reading for a while then.


Well, at least he has the capacity to reassess.

Posted by: Tami at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (Enq6K)

322 Oh boy oh boy, cannot wait until the new human sexuality merit badge comes out.

Posted by: 13 yr old First Class Scout at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (QLvwG)

323
Whats green and comes in brownies??





Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (8XRCm)

324 he might be afraid for his life
but now the cat's out of the bag, he could probably do it now

Feldman says nope, not gonna say. He doesn't want to get sued. He says if someone else comes out with a lawsuit he would be glad to help.

But he basically has a decent enough gig now and he doesn't want to lose it.
Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (1GJ2R)



I was thinking that was probably it. They will destroy any life he has left. Drain him of any money. This is pure evil. What they did to him, and what he is afraid they will continue to do.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (fceHP)

325 Mommy explanation:

Dad is still in the hospital because the hospital and the rehab place are doing the paperwork dance to get him released from the hospital and transferred over.

The problem is that Dad thought he was leaving last Thursday and he's still there and he's driving Mommy absolutely insane about it.

The caseworker at the hospital told he and Mommy yesterday that everything was in the works so Dad took that to mean he was going to be out by like noon yesterday. The final insurance approval didn't come through until almost 5 p.m. yesterday and now they are waiting for the doctor to sign the final orders and Dad is calling Mommy every half hour and it's all a mess.

I, being a wonderful person, am Brave Sir Robining this as hard as humanly possible. I heaved Mommy right under the bus a bit ago and told her to go to Cookout and get Dad an orange push up shake and take it down to him to try to appease him.

I understand their frustration, I really really do, it's just that I'm used to how all of this works because of dealing with it professionally so from my perspective everything is moving along as it should.

On the other hand, Dad is well enough now that Mommy told him to stop calling her so that's nice.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)

326 He was so #nevertrump that when he flipped to #reluctanttrump his twitter tagline was still a vicious cut on Trump. For weeks.



Hahahaha. Hey, I was not pro Trump in the beginning either. I was mortified. I did not have a high opinion of the man.

But after a while, watching the media meltdown, watching the weakness of the other candidates at the debates, and so on, my opinions began to change. Things evolved. Look, both the candidates sucked. The govt. is corrupt. Trump became the hail mary pass. He's done better then I expected.

And the depth of corruption and decay has been exposed. The rot under the veneer was much worse than I thought...and I knew it was bad.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (XaRNh)

327
I find it amusing in a disgusted way that the same people now rightly condemning H. Weinstein continued for years celebrating and defending Roman Polanski.

Does anybody really believe that girl was Polanski's only victim, just like these 3 that have claimed rape and 8 or more that have accused Weinstein of other sex attacks are the his only victims?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (r+sAi)

328 Jane
In fairness it is.not.easy to go from tepidly supporting a GOPE shithead , to Let it Burn , to maybe Trump Is Our Controlled Burn.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 11, 2017 02:21 PM (NjnBT)

329 "Hey, let's send early adolescents on co-ed camping trips! Nothing could go wrong there!


Posted by: dagny"

Good point. Which is why the program focus will now shift sensitivity training and Don't Rape classes for the boys.

Posted by: Ripley at October 11, 2017 02:21 PM (MxEKc)

330 Someone or several people speculated that Harvey gave money to Hillary was a big Hillary supporter, and that this is Obama's attempt to get Hillary finally out of the picture so that what's her name-kampala Harris can run in 2020.

...

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (iVOAv)


========

Her proper name is Chlamydia Hairyass-Perrier.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 11, 2017 02:21 PM (/qEW2)

331

That Maddow guy is just pissed that he never got to grope all of those actresses

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 11, 2017 02:21 PM (493sH)

332 100 94 Mike Florio's pearl clutching during that was hilarious. According to Florio, no athletes ever speak disrespectfully about women in a locker room.
Posted by: Benji Carver at October 11, 2017 01:39 PM (OD2ni)

Why would an NFL player say it with their mouth when they seem more content to say it with their fist?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 11, 2017 01:40 PM (WDCYi)

Bill Clinton said it with Flowers.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 11, 2017 02:22 PM (ZM2xo)

333 300 I was anti-Trump/pro-Cruz for quite a while.

And then I grew out of it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:15 PM (PY9jH)

Same. I remember the debate that Trump was uninvited to (or didn't attend in protest, or something. I forget the actual circumstances surrounding why he didn't go.) I was pretty sure, watching Cruz at that debate that that was the moment where he'd begin to lock up the nomination.

It wasn't the first time that election season where I was incredibly wrong, and it wouldn't be the last.

Now I'm riding the Trump Train until it falls off the tracks.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 11, 2017 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

334 Why did Timmy get kicked out of the Scouts?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 11, 2017 02:22 PM (89T5c)

335 313 Feldman says nope, not gonna say. He doesn't want
to get sued. He says if someone else comes out with a lawsuit he would
be glad to help.



But he basically has a decent enough gig now and he doesn't want to lose it.

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:13 PM (1GJ2R)
===========================

I have very little sympathy for that argument. Sexual predators who prey on children usually do not start and stop with just one child. I have very little sympathy, in fact none, for someone to stand on the sidelines and - oh well oops! - it just happened again. To somebody else.
Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:18 PM (lwiT4)

Probably scared for his life. Just a guess because child rapists with millions and billions.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 11, 2017 02:22 PM (XFue2)

336 AtC, {{{hugs}}} for you and your parents.

Cookouts has some awesome shakes. Now I want one.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:22 PM (PY9jH)

337 My sons dropped out after cub scouts when they got an eyeful of the dorks who were scouting INSTEAD of playing sports. It was a big room of nerds.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 02:23 PM (6oU5/)

338 My personal 'stop worrying and enjoy the burning moment came when Trump said to Katy Tur, during a press conference, "be quiet, I know you want to save her, but be quiet".

I decided it was best to just enjoy it at that point.

Posted by: John Marston at October 11, 2017 02:23 PM (SkuXa)

339 116 I hate fucking peacocks!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 01:43 PM (QLvwG)

They make quite a racket.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 11, 2017 02:23 PM (DrC22)

340 *shoves an extra large hate-shake through the USB port for AlextheChick*

Did I mention that Munchkin has discovered the mesh laundry hamper is a climbing obstacle. Sometimes she goes splat and then hops right back to attack again. This cat is a Marine.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (QvC3K)

341 I was thinking that was probably it. They will destroy any life he has left. Drain him of any money. This is pure evil. What they did to him, and what he is afraid they will continue to do.


I can't blame him. His life was ruined by it all. There were and are people who were powerful & yet haven't done a damn thing. Just like in the Harvey situation. It's too much for one person to take on. He'd be buried.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (XaRNh)

342 If Trump had never gotten in the race, or had folded at some point, who would have been the R nominee?

Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (3myMJ)

343 Somebody preys on and abuses one of my grandchildren? God help them. Somebody knew about the guy in advance and didnt' want to say anything because he didn't want to ruin his "gig"? You'll have to hold me back because I will rip him to bloody shreds.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (lwiT4)

344
My sons dropped out after cub scouts when they got an eyeful of the
dorks who were scouting INSTEAD of playing sports. It was a big room of
nerds.


Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 02:23 PM (6oU5/)


Huh. Our son played sports and became an Eagle Scout. No nerds in his troop.


Whatever.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (PY9jH)

345 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)

Thanks for the update and will continue to pray for your mom and dad. Hospital things are very stressful.
Glad they have you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (iVOAv)

346 The Indian Guides and Indian princesses programs a
GREAT if you have them in your area. Dads and their kids. Fun for kids,
fun for dads. Only moderately structured. A big plus is that kids get to
be kids during the off time without a hover parent dictating every
second of play. For dads it's like a fishing trip a fire, some beverages
the kids cousins and 20 "uncle mikes."

Posted by: Keith at October 11, 2017 02:17 PM (USf3s)

It WAS great, until the PC YMCA killed of the Indian theme a decade or so ago. No more Great Spirit, legend stories, or creative tribe names. Adventure Guides and Princesses and circles.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (QLvwG)

347 >>I find it amusing in a disgusted way that the same people now rightly
condemning H. Weinstein continued for years celebrating and defending
Roman Polanski.


Exactly. That's why Kate Winslet is getting criticized. She give some bland, "we all have to do better to stop this awfulness!" type statement, yet has worked with Polanski and is currently working with Woody Allen.
She excused herself from making judgements on those two as follows:

Did the allegations against Woody Allen give you pause?Of
course one thinks about it. But at the same time, I didn't know Woody
and I don't know anything about that family. As the actor in the film,
you just have to step away and say, I don't know anything, really, and
whether any of it is true or false. Having thought it all through, you
put it to one side and just work with the person. Woody Allen is an
incredible director. So is Roman Polanski. I had an extraordinary
working experience with both of those men, and that's the truth"


Nice, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 11, 2017 02:25 PM (W+vEI)

348 There is a difference between being anti-Trump, not for Trump, and being #nevertrump

I supposed if someone flips, then definitionally they can't be #nevertrump

Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:25 PM (1GJ2R)

349 If Trump had never gotten in the race, or had folded at some point, who would have been the R nominee?
Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (3myMJ)

------

THAT GUY I WOULD HAVE BEAT YOU FUCKING KNUCKLEDRAGGING WINGERS!!!!

Posted by: Hillary!! at October 11, 2017 02:25 PM (8XRCm)

350 Saw somewhere that Feldman said all of his "stuff" was past statute of limitations, but would help if something/one came out that was more current

Posted by: random lurker commenter at October 11, 2017 02:25 PM (dab45)

351 "Hey, let's send early adolescents on co-ed camping trips! Nothing could go wrong there!


Posted by: dagny"

I was a Boy Scout in the late 60's. I remember there was a page or so in the handbook about not (I cannot remember how it was written) masturbating.
They can take that part out now.

Posted by: Bruce at October 11, 2017 02:25 PM (8ikIW)

352 342 If Trump had never gotten in the race, or had folded at some point, who would have been the R nominee?
Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (3myMJ)

Hillary Clinton. For all the effort the right wing of the uniparty would have put in.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 11, 2017 02:25 PM (72PAC)

353 Lord have mercy we need some rain.

I need to make sure I cut fresh aravah and beat the ground hard.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (kuFbc)

354
Just heard on NPR: the left is better than the right because everybody on the left is criticizing Harvey Weinstein but the only people "on the right" to criticize Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes were Peggy Noonan and David French.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (IqV8l)

355 My kid played 4 varsity sports in high school and eagled out in scouts. Playing college lacrosse now.

Posted by: NCKate at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (cpPGe)

356
and Dad is calling Mommy every half hour and it's all a mess.

Take away the phone and give him a TV.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (czg0O)

357 Initially, I wasn't pro-Trump mostly because I didn't think he could win. My goal is defeating or at least stemming the tide of the communist freaks on the left. I didn't know Trump could win and was nervous as hell. Then as the left and the nevertrumpers AFTER the nomination doubled down on hysteria and pro-prog and even supported that beast Hillary who I've hated with the heat of a 1000 sons for decades, I got more and more pro-Trump because, mostly, he fights back against those aholes.

To put it nicely.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (6oU5/)

358 Cookouts has some awesome shakes. Now I want one.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:22 PM (PY9jH)



Yeah, now I know where I'm stopping on the way home.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (mf5HN)

359 >>Based on the transcript of Maddow's questioning, I previously wrote that Maddow seemed to be a "worker bee" defending her employer. However, watching the video at Hot Air, she doesn't appear to be defending NBC. She seems to be asking the questions neutrally -- "NBC says this, what do you say?"

You take the king's coin, you are (mostly) the king's lesbian.

Posted by: Zod at October 11, 2017 02:27 PM (Bdeb0)

360 All they had was an official NYPD audio. It wasn't ironclad proof like the Trump Dossier.

Posted by: Ktgreat at October 11, 2017 02:27 PM (f8ilN)

361 342 If Trump had never gotten in the race, or had folded at some point, who would have been the R nominee?
Posted by: Meremortal, hand over heart at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (3myMJ)

Jeb! Because establishment GOP stupidity tends toward the maximum.

Posted by: joncelli, giving his careful prosthesis at October 11, 2017 02:27 PM (RD7QR)

362 I was pro-Cruz for the longest time, and I still like him a lot and will put up signs for him in his re-election bid next year.

But as the primaries rolled on, it began to dawn on me that no matter how much we here in Texas liked Cruz, he just didn't play that well in other parts of the country, especially up north.

I think it may have been because he was never able to really hide what all of us here in Texas take for granted, that is that all the rest of you suck when you're compared to us, and if we need your support we'll beat it out of you. That attitude doesn't bother anyone here, but it seems to bother the rest of you, and I guess I get that.

Trump, as crass and clueless as he can be, still knows how to do it in a way that makes him fit in almost everywhere in this country. Almost everywhere - not California, of course. But who cares.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 02:28 PM (k1TUh)

363 I was in the Scouts until I was caught with four bottles of beer at one of the camp outs.

Posted by: Soona at October 11, 2017 02:28 PM (ZAAkQ)

364 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 11, 2017 02:20 PM (mf5HN)
==========================


alex - do they think your dad will be in rehab for very long? I've done the thing with the stuff twice now - once with my mom and once with my step-dad. No fun, horrible run-arounds, waiting then waiting.


Tell your mom that jackass is okay. It's in the Bible.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:28 PM (lwiT4)

365 I don't think it's useful to say "who was what" back during the 2016 campaign.

The vast majority here, including me, found Trump distasteful & offputting for awhile at least.

As far as I'm concerned, "I was wrong" is enough to square things completely.

Posted by: mnw at October 11, 2017 02:28 PM (hLB6Q)

366

nood Republican sexual molestation of a different nature

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 11, 2017 02:28 PM (czg0O)

367 355 My kid played 4 varsity sports in high school and eagled out in scouts. Playing college lacrosse now.
Posted by: NCKate at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (cpPGe)

Cool. Mine played 3 varsity sports each in high school ---all contact sports. Football, wrestling, lacrosse. Rugby in the summer. The DC metro scouts are dorks, but so are their parents. I was embarrassed for them.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (6oU5/)

368
sock b gone

Posted by: fixerupper at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (8XRCm)

369 nude judges

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 Jr at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (oGRue)

370 There was that other guy...who managed boy bands & was very wealthy and protected by Hollywood. Can't remember his name. But he was a pedophile. A number of the kids said something.

He ended up imploding, but don't remember if there was jailtime. I think he managed N'Sync.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (XaRNh)

371 Losing Iowahawk and Jonah to the side of mediocrity and mendacity hurt. I was big fan of their humor.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 11, 2017 01:38 PM (xJa6I)


What drives people who are capable of solid conservative thought to be #NeverTrumpers? I want a psychological study. Does he intimidate them somehow on a subconscious level? Are they really unable to over look that? I found Obama, Bush and Clinton far more revolting in their mannerisms and physical appearance than Trump. They are all kind of grotesque in comparison. I don't get the psychological source of the unthinking revulsion.

There are principled objections to him, but clearly these are desperate times. We're Sarah Connor in T2 and he's Ahnuld saying "Come vit me if you vant to live".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (/qEW2)

372
My kid played 4 varsity sports in high school and eagled out in scouts. Playing college lacrosse now.

Posted by: NCKate at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (cpPGe)


Yeah, our son captained the cross country team two years in a row, and lettered in baseball and basketball, while earning his Eagle. And of course, became a Marine. Not exactly a nerd.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (PY9jH)

373 Cookouts has some awesome shakes. Now I want one.
Jane D'oh

Yeah, now I know where I'm stopping on the way home.

Posted by: alexthechick

I'm normally not anywhere near Cookout, but I have to make a Lowes run out to Asheville after work. HRRRRMMMMM

Posted by: Sporkatus at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (HtLSE)

374 354
Just heard on NPR: the left is better than the right because everybody on the left is criticizing Harvey Weinstein but the only people "on the right" to criticize Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes were Peggy Noonan and David French.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (IqV8l)

Sigh. They really do live in a bubble.

Posted by: joncelli, giving his careful prosthesis at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (RD7QR)

375 Guess the covert congressional Alzheimer drug runner is covert no more.

"They can't remember what happened yesterday." Per Drudge.

Best of hands.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (89T5c)

376 I think most people who didn't support Trump initially, (I supported Cruz) but didn't loathe him-as NeverTrumpers loathed him, have come around now. As everyone notes, "He fights" Doesn't mean I like everything he says or indeed that i am required to. I think he generally wants to MAGA and loves the country which is a refreshing change after Obama.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (iVOAv)

377 From an interview with Corey Feldman:

I'm a very balanced, very happy man. I enjoy my life, I'm very grateful for it, and I'm grateful for the elements around my life. I have a great child and I have a great girlfriend, a nice house, a nice car and a good career. But I had to go through a lot of therapy and group therapy and rehabilitation and all sorts of things to be put on this ground that I'm on now.

It is perhaps unfair and out of context to put that together with other answers that he gives in the same interview:

I'm not able to name names. People are frustrated, people are angry, they want to know how is this happening, and they want answers - and they turn to me and they say, "Why don't you be a man and stand up and name names and stop hiding and being a coward?" I have to deal with that, which is not pleasant, especially given the fact that I would love to name names. I'd love to be the first to do it. But unfortunately California conveniently enough has a statute of limitations that prevents that from happening. Because if I were to go and mention anybody's name I would be the one that would be in legal problems and I'm the one that would be sued. We should be talking to the district attorneys and the lawmakers in California, especially because this is where the entertainment industry is and this is a place where adults have more direct and inappropriate connection with children than probably anywhere else in the world.

And

If somebody came forward with a suit against one of these people [who molested me], I would certainly be more than happy to back them up. But that hasn't happened.


Posted by: blaster at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (1GJ2R)

378 The only surprise is that it was reported at all and how much damage it might do to the Hollywood bubble.

Posted by: Big V at October 11, 2017 02:02 PM (MVE/7)


The theory I have heard is that the media is split between the Bernie Supporters/Hard Left and the Clinton/Obama Types/Left. This is a strike by the Bernie Supporting media at one of the stalwarts of the Clinton/Obama Left.

It has a certain attractiveness, I can see the two groups going at each other, and I want their Civil War to go rhetorically and legally hot with many casualties in reputations and fortunes. But I do not know the truth.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Horde Special! Two Free Skepticism When the Outrage Outlet Caters Your Fall Freakout at October 11, 2017 02:30 PM (hLRSq)

379 OT.

I just found out that Boy Scouts of America will start accepting girls into their Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts programs. For now the most I have is that Cub Scout dens will be single-gender and girls may join beginning in 2018.

For Boy Scouts, BSA will be working on a program for girls to be rolled out and ready for 2019. It sounds like Scout Troops will also be single gender.

Meh.


Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 11, 2017 02:30 PM (eytER)

380 "It WAS great, until the PC YMCA killed of the Indian
theme a decade or so ago. No more Great Spirit, legend stories, or
creative tribe names. Adventure Guides and Princesses and circles.



Posted by: Count de Monet"

Our YMCA is ultra-super PC and I know they would never allow anything with the name Indian in it. Or unsupervised play. I'm surprised they haven't changed their name yet since the Christian and Men parts could be triggering and oppressive. They are years ahead of the Cub Scouts in PC insanity.

Posted by: Ripley at October 11, 2017 02:31 PM (MxEKc)

381 >>>360 All they had was an official NYPD audio. It wasn't ironclad proof like the Trump Dossier.
Posted by: Ktgreat at October 11, 2017 02:27 PM (f8ilN)

Nice.

Posted by: m at October 11, 2017 02:31 PM (1Xpas)

382 The co-ed snipe hunts will be epic.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 02:32 PM (QLvwG)

383 I never thought O'Reilly was important enough to bother criticizing. I never watched him, so why should I?

Plus, I never perceived him as being any part of "conservative" whatever.

One last thing: His popular history books, "the Murder of.."? Garbage.

Posted by: mnw at October 11, 2017 02:34 PM (hLB6Q)

384 It WAS great, until the PC YMCA killed of the Indian theme a decade or so ago. No more Great Spirit, legend stories, or creative tribe names. Adventure Guides and Princesses and circles.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 11, 2017 02:24 PM (QLvwG)

We still have that in our nation and several others in the area. We broke off from the revisionist movement a number of years ago from what I've heard to be a parallel program.

Posted by: Keith at October 11, 2017 02:34 PM (USf3s)

385 That's a good statement by Cory Feldman, and I'm glad you reposted it. It reads like he has been given very specific legal advice, and is saying what his lawyer has carefully told him to say.

It doesn't surprise me at all to find that the California Legislature has gamed the laws in such a way as to protect every rich contributor of theirs in Hollywood, and to destroy any pesky accusers who might seek to inconvenience them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 02:35 PM (k1TUh)

386

Tell your mom that jackass is okay. It's in the Bible.

Posted by: grammie winger - Hey Hey! at October 11, 2017 02:28 PM (lwiT4)

This is one precious reason I love the Horde.

Posted by: moki at October 11, 2017 02:36 PM (V+V48)

387 385 That's a good statement by Cory Feldman, and I'm glad you reposted it. It reads like he has been given very specific legal advice, and is saying what his lawyer has carefully told him to say.

It doesn't surprise me at all to find that the California Legislature has gamed the laws in such a way as to protect every rich contributor of theirs in Hollywood, and to destroy any pesky accusers who might seek to inconvenience them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 02:35 PM (k1TUh)

Great weather, though!

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 11, 2017 02:37 PM (NWiLs)

388 The Boy Scouts have had coed programs in Venturing for ages. I can see trouble brewing in making it all that way, though.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at October 11, 2017 02:37 PM (H29xE)

389 385 That's a good statement by Cory Feldman, and I'm glad you reposted it. It reads like he has been given very specific legal advice, and is saying what his lawyer has carefully told him to say.

It doesn't surprise me at all to find that the California Legislature has gamed the laws in such a way as to protect every rich contributor of theirs in Hollywood, and to destroy any pesky accusers who might seek to inconvenience them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 11, 2017 02:35 PM (k1TUh)

That was my thought as well. Money means more than children's well being. Somehow, those bastards will twist that to be "for the children," though.

Posted by: moki at October 11, 2017 02:38 PM (V+V48)

390 he threw $91 million down the drain
let that sink in

gatekeeper maximus
Posted by: artisanal 'ette

That makes me smile

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2017 02:44 PM (ScmVq)

391 Chuck doesn't have a college degree (not that there's anything wrong with that). How does one get into NBC News in the first place, then ascend in the NBC News racket to point of hosting Meet the Press without any credentials?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 11, 2017 02:09 PM (vg8iE)
**************
Showing up to the interview with kneepads helps get the job.

Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 02:44 PM (6dFYM)

392 How does one get into NBC News in the first place, then ascend in the NBC News racket to point of hosting Meet the Press without any credentials

Because he knows somebody who knows somebody and has dome some sort of media work before? Also,, that he's possibly very charming and well spoken in person.? I doubt everybody who gets ahead in the news media is performing oral sex, although they may be kissing people's backsides a lot-figuratively speaking, I mean..

I know! I know-that Fenelon-So naive!! ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 11, 2017 02:48 PM (iVOAv)

393 16. Incest is best.
Old school.
It's called rolling your own.

Posted by: Abbyjack at October 11, 2017 02:49 PM (tZe8p)

394 374 354
Just heard on NPR: the left is better than the right because everybody on the left is criticizing Harvey Weinstein but the only people "on the right" to criticize Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes were Peggy Noonan and David French.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 11, 2017 02:26 PM (IqV8l)

Sigh. They really do live in a bubble.
Posted by: joncelli, giving his careful prosthesis at October 11, 2017 02:29 PM (RD7QR)


It's reprehensible to me that even disgusting behavior such as HW has been politicized. It's true on both the left and right. When everything is politicized, those are the lenses people see this crap thru.

Weinstein was a monster. People covered for him.
This whole, Trump is just as bad b/c of what he said is politics. Forget actual victims.

It's so sad. Politics & personal causes trump respect for the flag, caring about victims, being sane. It's a total clvsterfuck & people don't even question it.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at October 11, 2017 02:50 PM (XaRNh)

395 Rush was talking about this earlier, that the left is becoming aware of how bad this looks. Yesterday it was, "why haven't Obama and Hillary said anything?" Today, it's, "did they REALLY NEED to say anything?"

I asked a SJW in a comments section why neither had returned any of the bundled money. I was told that it's not like either can just go into a checking account, find "his money", pull it out and give it back.

Ahhhhh.......

Posted by: Ktgreat at October 11, 2017 02:56 PM (f8ilN)

396 I couldn't let this small observation in the Rowan Farrow story go ...

Charles Harder, Weinstein's attorney, stated ...

This is satire ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 11, 2017 03:07 PM (jCwj+)

397 When looking at it from a different angle, Trump's Access Hollywood video was commenting on the pernicious and seedy underbelly of Hollywood.

Posted by: bif at October 11, 2017 03:07 PM (aiyac)

398 who gave up their holes to Harvey and when did they break through?

Posted by: x at October 11, 2017 03:26 PM (nFwvY)

399 Too many fires clustered in three areas....and others started where there are few/no people. It's been going on for a couple years now.
Posted by: torabora at October 11, 2017 01:58 PM

All of the fire balloons the Japanese launched against the Pacific Nortwest in 1944-45 fell into a space-time rift and are coming out in Northern Cali.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 11, 2017 03:47 PM (PA57R)

400 I always thought Ronan was an empty-headed pretty boy. Gotta say...he's showing more balls and journalistic chops than most of the rest of the mainstream media.

And the fact that the New Yorker took it over NBC. Sheesh.

Posted by: S at October 11, 2017 05:33 PM (poT2p)

401 One of the things that struck me was all the "Harvey tried to harass me, but I said NO!" I think there was a lot more of the 30 Rock bit "3 out of 5 times."

Some of these it didn't work on me starlets could give a pretty detailed description of Weinstein's anatomy, if they chose to.

Posted by: Advo at October 11, 2017 07:58 PM (By5RL)

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