Outrageous: Knowingly Exposing Someone to HIV No Longer a Felony in California, Even if You Donate to a Blood Bank Knowing You're HIV Positive and That Your Blood, If Not Flagged as HIV, Will Infect Someone

Meanwhile, California will also punish people for "misgendering" people who've actually misgendered themselves.

What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children?

Posted by: Ace at 03:26 PM

Comments

(Jump to bottom of comments)

1 Foist?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:25 PM (W1BJy)

2 People in earlier generations would never have believed how crazy our world has gotten.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:25 PM (W1BJy)

3 I need to escape this state

Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 10, 2017 03:26 PM (PmDx1)

4 #InfectStraighty

Posted by: Gaystapo at October 10, 2017 03:26 PM (oGRue)

5 The feelings of homosexuals now outweigh public safety.

Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (xPl2J)

6 My new personal pronoun is Master

Posted by: eb at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (7viGi)

7 3 I need to escape this state
Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 10, 2017
*
*
And I need to flee mine. A list of still moderately sane states, anybody? Idaho? Montana?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (W1BJy)

8 out of curiosity, were people being convicted under the old law?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (oGRue)

9
It is now clearer than ever who makes up the protected classes in CA. Pray that this insanity stays there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (EaVwv)

10 They're just spreading the sanctuary city policy down to the viral level.

Posted by: DaveA at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (FhXTo)

11
This is where the feds needs to step in, stat.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 03:28 PM (czg0O)

12 Because, shut up racist!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 10, 2017 03:28 PM (xfb67)

13 It is now clearer than ever who makes up the protected classes in CA. Pray that this insanity stays there.

---

protected, infected

all the same

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 10, 2017 03:28 PM (oGRue)

14 California was the source of the infections in the American body politic. Now it's gangrenous. Time to amputate. Let them go their own way into madness.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:28 PM (AM1GF)

15 Future employment opportunity smuggling blood into LA.

Posted by: DaveA at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (FhXTo)

16 And I need to flee mine. A list of still moderately sane states, anybody? Idaho? Montana?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (W1BJy)

Wyoming. There's nobody there.

Posted by: Kris at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (nwqNw)

17 CA became a shitfest after the Democrats took complete control of the State. They are effective a failed communist State now and the only reason they have not completely collapsed is the feds are still propping them up with our money. That needs to cease.

Posted by: Vic who has no heart at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (mpXpK)

18 don't be so homophobic, ace.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (wmaTe)

19 #VLM

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (oGRue)

20 7
My new personal pronoun is Master

Posted by: eb at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (7viGi)

I am going with Lord Humungus.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (tbOMB)

21 This is where the feds needs to step in, stat.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

This would seem to be the same Feds who are constantly working against the President, yes...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (AM1GF)

22 #MakeHIVGreatAgain

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (XFue2)

23 Well, I guess they decided that since Assault with a Deadly Weapon shouldn't be a felony for Illegal Aliens, it shouldn't be for the HIV-positive, either.

Way to go, Commiefornia.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (XMDuf)

24 2
People in earlier generations would never have believed how crazy our world has gotten.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:25 PM (W1BJy)

its not our "world" only a few thousand people concentrated in shithole blue States like CA and the NE.

Posted by: Vic who has no heart at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (mpXpK)

25
If there weren't enough reasons to leave CA already, but effing with the blood supply? That should do it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (r+sAi)

26
It's a federal crime to open someone's mailbox, after all. I think the feds need to step in and make it crime to infect a person with a deadly virus.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (czg0O)

27 What a stupid time to be alive. We are now setting public health policy on not making people feel bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (ycWCI)

28

Not a good idea.

Posted by: Arthur Ashe at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (f7Zy/)

29 The state senator that pushed this bill is as queer as a 3 dollar bill.
NTTATWWT...

Posted by: navybrat at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (w7KSn)

30
Is anthrax still illegal in California?
Because this is like gay anthrax.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (czg0O)

31 Does that also go for Sonobi?
Because I may have been exposed.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (QM5S2)

32 Look at the guy who pushed for this:

https://twitter.com/polNewsInfinity/status/917804581962371074

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (W+vEI)

33 Madness pure madness.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (0OmEj)

34 Never mind that Northern California is on fire, the state has deep financial woes, etc. Gerry Brown has declared CA a sanctuary state and now this.

Growing up in So. CA in the 60's and 70's it was paradise. It is to weep.

Posted by: Cheri at October 10, 2017 03:30 PM (oiNtH)

35 Eh. It's Darwinian. A mutation is unavoidable.

And without using proven techniques of isolation and contact tracing and without a change in lifestyle -- lights out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (hyuyC)

36 Spreading ill health around.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Smughomo at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (V6f+a)

37 17 And I need to flee mine. A list of still moderately sane states, anybody? Idaho? Montana?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (W1BJy)

Wyoming. There's nobody there.
Posted by: Kris at October 10, 2017
*
*
As long as they have good Internet.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (W1BJy)

38 So they're on the "honor system"? Yeah, that'll work.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (O5Q3r)

39 18 CA became a shitfest after the Democrats took complete control of the State. They are effective a failed communist State now and the only reason they have not completely collapsed is the feds are still propping them up with our money. That needs to cease.
Posted by: Vic who has no heart at October 10, 2017 03:29 PM (mpXpK)

Cut off the flow of water and see how fast the Tech Companies beg to be let out.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (XMDuf)

40 Political Correctness trumps Common Sense in every instance in California.

Political Correctness has blood on its hands.

Posted by: BeckoniningChasm at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (l9m7l)

41 What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children?

None. Utterly none. Remember, this applies only to those who know they are HIV positive and who make a conscious choice to conceal that.

There is absolutely no justification in any possible way for removing the disclosure requirements for donating blood. None. Not a single solitary one. It is sheer lunacy that this was done and the people who did this and who think it is a good thing are horrible human beings.

As far as making this a misdemeanor rather than a felony, that is absurd. I don't care that it's HIV, it's still willfully and knowingly exposing someone to a deadly disease. It could be syphilis or the plague or anything else and it should still be a felony.

So there you go, Horde. No, not every queer person in the world thinks this is fine.

And now, for the good of my own mental health, I'm out of here.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (mf5HN)

42 The Left with more of its unlearning of civilizations lessons!

HIV + unfetterd immigration + vaxxers = epidemics waiting to happen

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2017 03:32 PM (W+vEI)

43 25 2
People in earlier generations would never have believed how crazy our world has gotten.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:25 PM (W1BJy)

its not our "world" only a few thousand people concentrated in shithole blue States like CA and the NE.
Posted by: Vic who has no heart at October 10, 2017
*
*
I know, but their nuttery has the potential to infect (pun intended) the rest of us.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:32 PM (W1BJy)

44 What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children?

Same reason we were lied to and told everyone was equally at risk to contract HIV. Constituents want politicians to lie to us to protect their broken world view.

This move isn't out of the blue. I've seen and heard lots of LGBTwhatever advocates claim that it's discrimination they can't donate blood. They even started a blood bank that only accepted donations from LGBTwhatever people. It folded in like two months.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2017 03:32 PM (jhqr1)

45 "What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children?"

My guess is that they figure if more people get it, there will be more public clamor for funding, therefore leading to new treatments.

So what if a few children get burnt in the process - are they against equal rights for gays, the little bigots?

Posted by: West at October 10, 2017 03:32 PM (1Rgee)

46 Hey, sweetheart.

If we have to die from AIDS, you have to die from AIDS.

Biological social justice.

Posted by: The Gay Mafia at October 10, 2017 03:32 PM (f7Zy/)

47 Tool had the right idea in "AEnema"

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 10, 2017 03:32 PM (tRd71)

48 Uh. That doesn't get into the main blood supply- does it?

How the hell is that legal?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (Re0pQ)

49 7 My new personal pronoun is Master
Posted by: eb at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (7viGi)

Get your own peasant.

Posted by: Sonobi at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (72PAC)

50
Pretending gays don't spread disease, but are leading healthy normal lifestyles?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (SRKgf)

...normal and now they're totes a majority. I mean I watch TV and they gotta be like 65% of the population. They're everywhere!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (8Cguq)

51 @15 Bro, the hell you say. They can't have it. We should invade it and reconquer it.

Posted by: One at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (RYASC)

52 Now ANTIFA can better weaponize their spit

Posted by: weew at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (EaEMG)

53 Is it a crime to knowingly infect people with other potentially fatal diseases?

Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (7HtZB)

54 "willfully and repeatedly" use the "wrong" pronouns to refer to a senior transgender patient.

----

why only senior?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 Jr at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (oGRue)

55 Old and busted: What a stupid time to be alive

New hotness: DaFuk?

Posted by: Normal people at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (BrQrN)

56 So there you go, Horde. No, not every queer person in the world thinks this is fine.

And now, for the good of my own mental health, I'm out of here.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around.

I talked to three others in your corner since this broke. They uniformly think this is the height of insanity.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (AM1GF)

57 If anyone wants to see what a REAL First Amendment violation looks like, just look at the "proper pronoun" law. Imposing a law that brings the punitive weight of the government down on someone who expresses an unapproved thought is the very archetype of a First Amended violation.

I don't trust the Ninth Circuit to see a problem with it but I can't imagine event the Leftard justices on SCOTUS giving that steaming turd a pass.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (Mouru)

58 F you California.

That's a third person pronoun and still apparently legal.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (Re0pQ)

59 48 Uh. That doesn't get into the main blood supply- does it?

How the hell is that legal?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (Re0pQ)

Well, theoretically, the blood is screened before it's distributed.

There used to be a blanket ban on gay people giving blood. Then it was a blanket ban on HIV + people.

Now it's... I'm not sure. I still think you're not supposed to give blood if you have any kind of blood disease, but it's not a criminal act anymore.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (wmaTe)

60 7 My new personal pronoun is Master
Posted by: eb at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (7viGi)

Are you pleased?

Posted by: Torgo at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (7HtZB)

61 ESPN, Al Sharpton is here to see you.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (tbOMB)

62 Disparate impact theory in action. The law disproportionately affected male homosexuals, so it had to be changed.

Posted by: Jim at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (rnwV8)

63 Is that a pencil in xe pocket or are you Harvey Weinstein?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (Re0pQ)

64 Starting to wish San Andreas fault would get going, already. These people are literally (literally literally, not metaphorically literally) fatally stupid, and I'm sure they're feeling pretty good right now about how inclusive they are. Wait until one of the a**holes that voted for this needs multiple transfusions. . . .

Posted by: biblio at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (6FY0P)

65 People should have no right to refuse vaccines. Herd immunity!!

That's the important immunity. Volume. Volume. Volume.

Posted by: California at October 10, 2017 03:34 PM (2mC6G)

66 Does this even stay in California? I don't know how donated blood is distributed and if it moves across state lines. I suppose it does, especially if it's needed somewhere.

Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (xPl2J)

67 Wy Has surprisingly good internet. The uplink center for Dishnetwork is in Cheyenne. (huge amaounts of data pipe needed)

Posted by: USNtakim at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (0OmEj)

68 53 Is it a crime to knowingly infect people with other potentially fatal diseases?
Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (7HtZB)

Yes, it's a crime in California. A misdemeanor. The upset was that HIV was specifically singled out and a felony, instead of a misdemeanor like, say, knowingly spreading herpes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (wmaTe)

69 This whole California thing is mesmerizing, like a plane crash in progress. You can't look away.

"Pull up! Pull UP!" you scream as the aircraft sinks lower and lower.

But it's not like in the movies where the aircraft disappears behind a hilltop and then there is a big explosion and column of smoke.

No this plane crash is happening right in front of you, and there is no where to run.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (m9X4Y)

70 Liberals will regard this as a great leap forward in societal values.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (58eZn)

71 The FDA and Red Cross lifted the ban on homosexual blood donation back in 2015. I remember being appalled then.

I'm not surprised. It's almost like a political cohort trumps public health. Almost.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (vg8iE)

72 It's funny that the State that requires a cancer warning on virtually everything thinks that AIDS is no biggie.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (8NLb9)

73 Because HIV positive people are a "marginalized population," and not letting them donate blood or infect people with impunity is hurtful toward their self-esteem.

It sounds facetious, but when you peel it back, that is the literall rationale for the policy change.

Now, the actual reason for the policy change is it's a way for left-wing gays to shove a middle finger in the face of societal norms and people that uphold them.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (O7MnT)

74 Come on ace,that law was unenforceable anyway.Be realistic.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (rmVvL)

75 >>What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for
someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets --
to hemophiliac children?

The state legislator from San Francisco who pushed for this thinks it's UNFAIR that there was a harsher penalty for knowingly infecting others with HIV when all other diseases being spread that way are only a misdemeanor.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (W+vEI)

76 Removing justice from the law does not mean there will not be justice--it only means it will be had by retribution.

The law is nothing but an orderly system to avoid vigilantism, mobs and blood feuds.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (sUh6s)

77 What's their hashtag? Something about not being discriminated against because they're voluntarily deseased?

It's so everyone becomes HIV positive so they don't have to use condoms?

Posted by: dagny at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (6oU5/)

78 51 @15 Bro, the hell you say. They can't have it. We should invade it and reconquer it.

Posted by: One

Have you looked at the rest of America? We could barely invade, conquer, and reconstruct the Starbucks down the road right now. Maybe in a generation or two, if we were to tamp down on this crap, but as of right now? Forget it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (AM1GF)

79 ...normal and now they're totes a majority. I mean I watch TV and they gotta be like 65% of the population. They're everywhere!

---

they are out-breeding us

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 Jr at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (oGRue)

80 I am a regular blood donor. That has just ended. When the Red Cross calls me every six weeks, I will be sure to let them know that until this changes, I am done giving blood.

Posted by: One at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (RYASC)

81 Their excuse is that HIV is no longer a death sentence.

As long as you have the $20k a year for medicine.

If not, then apparently you don't deserve to live.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (priwn)

82 68 53 Is it a crime to knowingly infect people with other potentially fatal diseases?
Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (7HtZB)

Yes, it's a crime in California. A misdemeanor. The upset was that HIV was specifically singled out and a felony, instead of a misdemeanor like, say, knowingly spreading herpes.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (wmaTe)

No one dies from herpes.

They do when the gives it to Big Jim!

Posted by: Just the punchline at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (7HtZB)

83 The state legislator from San Francisco who pushed for this thinks it's UNFAIR that there was a harsher penalty for knowingly infecting others with HIV when all other diseases being spread that way are only a misdemeanor.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (W+vEI)

Right.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (wmaTe)

84 Here Florida, hold my beer!

Posted by: California at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (2mC6G)

85 I can't imagine any reason anyone sane would want to open a business or build a life in California right now.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (UfYsr)

86 AIDS was the first disease with civil rights.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (QM5S2)

87 I see massive lawsuits in California's future.

They'll repeal this stupid, wicked law then.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (ZM2xo)

88 It's funny that the State that requires a cancer warning on virtually everything thinks that AIDS is no biggie.

Yep. By rights any infected ghey should at least be required to wear one of those idiotic Prop 65 warnings on his scrotum.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (Mouru)

89 It's so everyone becomes HIV positive so they don't have to use condoms?

=======

If that's their reasoning, then they are full of shit. There is such a thing as "reinfection."

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (vg8iE)

90 I drink the tears of that left wing bitch from The Young Turks election night coverage.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (rmVvL)

91 Very Darwinian of CA. Any chance they will poison drugs next?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (YV+SU)

92 My new personal pronoun is Master

Master as an honorific pre-Elizabethan times applied to men of some rank but were lower than gentlemen, priests, or scholars.

Master is also the origin of our word "Mister". When Mister became the new preferred honorific, Master was used to address boys of some privilege who hadn't yet entered society.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (jhqr1)

93 California. It's like hell, only with a beach and good weather.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (Re0pQ)

94 No wonder the Ninth Circus ruled against Trump's travel ban; they didn't want California put on the list of failed terror states.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (Ndje9)

95 As long as you have the $20k a year for medicine.

=========

Thank you, taxpayers!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (vg8iE)

96 Here's what the Democrap state senator and sponsor actually said:

The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV. To make people comfortable talking about their infection, get tested, get into treatment.

This is what he actually believes. And it is abject insanity.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (mQ0Mc)

97 One of the Horde said yesterday that blood banks have gotten much better about catching infected blood before it's used and I hope he's right. Thing is, this law will *dramatically* increase the cost of running a blood bank and also result in the waste of untainted false positives because now the blood banks will *have* to be right *every* time or an innocent will be condemned to horror (and the activists have repeatedly stated that this is exactly what they want).

In general, they had better hope they *don't* get what they want because the results for anyone even suspected of being involved would probably be very, very bad. That happened in Australia a couple of years ago and all you heard about was that a bunch of Aussies had gone on a violent rampage against gays, not the part where *some* gays had been claiming they had infected the Aussie blood banks. Once the vigilantism starts people aren't very particular about making sure they get the correct individuals and that will be bad for everyone.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (rp9xB)

98 Hey! I've got it!! And everybody loves me!!!

Posted by: "Magic" Johnson at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (O5Q3r)

99 Is it a crime to knowingly infect people with other potentially fatal diseases?
Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:33 PM (7HtZB)

Crazy Hakkim's Smallpox Blanket Emporium relies on a cadre of very effective lobbyists to keep that kind of law off the books.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (Mouru)

100
The inmates are running the asylum

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (493sH)

101 73 Now, the actual reason for the policy change is it's a way for left-wing gays to shove a middle finger in the face of societal norms and people that uphold them.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (O7MnT)

Bending over and kissing Dan Savage's ass. Didn't he say that intentionally infecting others should be a badge of honor for LGBTs?

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (XMDuf)

102 Have you looked at the rest of America? We could barely invade, conquer, and reconstruct the Starbucks down the road right now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (AM1GF)
---
Shut up, Dad! Gaaah!! I hate you! I HATE YOU!!

Posted by: Millennials at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (2mC6G)

103 It's like the amount of stupidity in California directly correlates with the state's natural beauty.

People in this morning's thread were saying Paris is great, it's just the Parisians who suck.

You can say the same about liberal Californians.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (ZM2xo)

104 Flamethrowers clear up infections quickly.

Posted by: DaveA at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (FhXTo)

105 So bio warfare is legal now and normal. Good to know.

Posted by: AntiFa at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (XFue2)

106 Now "master" is reserved for 18 year old weirdos on Fetlife.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (priwn)

107 A sanctuary state where illegals and pedo's can rape and infect you with HIV and NOT have to register as a sex offender after the slap on the wrist.

Hate to be the person wait....human?? that does the states travel and leisure advertising.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (WLK0w)

108
I was debating whether my personal pronoun that the people of CA must call me should be master or lord. I decided to go with:

Sir KickmeintheGroinPlease.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (r+sAi)

109 The inmates are running the asylum
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (493sH)
Jerry Brown's dominant personality is Doctor Tarr.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (2mC6G)

110 Oh, and I love how the sponsoring rep of the mis-gendering bill said "no one will go to jail, that's crazy talk."

And it's right there in the bill--a fine and/or jail time.

Any time there is a law, there is always--always--going to be a point where men with guns are going to enforce that law.

Every single fucking time.

Because if it can't be enforced with deadly force IT IS NOT A LAW.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (sUh6s)

111 My new personal pronoun is Master

Posted by: eb at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (7viGi)

I am going with Lord Humungus.
Posted by: flounder
----------

Pfft

Posted by: Maximum Leader at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (leCj4)

112 This is what he actually believes. And it is abject insanity.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (mQ0Mc)

Fen's Law says he doesn't believe that for a second. It's the same reason they give for decriminalizing pedophilia.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (rp9xB)

113 Has California issued a list of acceptable pronouns yet?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (iVOAv)

114 Master as an honorific pre-Elizabethan times applied to men of some rank but were lower than gentlemen, priests, or scholars.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 10, 2017 03:37 PM (jhqr1)

Fine.

Then I demand to be called emperor.

Posted by: Emperor CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (wYseH)

115 Sure. The best idea to "destigmatize" HIV is to unwittingly and involuntary expose the entire population to its deadly effects.

Said no sane person ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (Re0pQ)

116 To follow up, I guess he thinks you destigmatize HIV by removing the punishment for spreading this disease.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (mQ0Mc)

117 I live in CA. Last month I bought a fishing lure that had the cancer warning sticker on it. No joke. Any trout that bites my lure has a lot more to worry about than cancer.

Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (xPl2J)

118 Removing justice from the law does not mean there will not be justice--it only means it will be had by retribution.

Cold, hard retribution visited on two to three generations down.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (nRs0E)

119 Now wait a gul-dern minute. I invited Wolfus to join me, the better half and the cat in exile in the non-Denver square state. All you other yahoos find your own hermit holes.

Posted by: Kris at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (nwqNw)

120
Traitor Mr. Bradely Manning.
Traitor Mr. Bradely Manning.
Traitor Mr. Bradely Manning.

Regarding the NorCalif. fires. Proper forestry practices like prescribed burns and grading fire breaks would not have stopped the current wildfires, or even have slowed them down. The hot, gusting north wind - sweeping off of the high desert plateau is simply a force of nature. Happens every year. Though this year the wind is particularly fierce.

Posted by: 13times at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (WHVu+)

121 I was debating whether my personal pronoun that the people of CA must call me should be master or lord. I decided to go with:

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (r+sAi)
---
I identify as someone who did NOT just punch you in the neck!!

Please refer to me as the guy who definitely did NOT just punch me in the neck!

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (2mC6G)

122 Also have to love the 'It's not fair to gays' from one side of a prog mouth and 'AIDS isn't just a gay thing, you know' from the other.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (rp9xB)

123 And remember, a few weeks ago Jerry Brown called Trump voters "cave dwellers."

Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (xPl2J)

124 Have you looked at the rest of America? We could barely invade, conquer, and reconstruct the Starbucks down the road right now. Maybe in a generation or two, if we were to tamp down on this crap, but as of right now? Forget it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (AM1GF

Not with millennials, Home Depot has a how to video teaching how to use a tape measure. Really, a tape measure.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (Ri/rl)

125 106 Now "master" is reserved for 18 year old weirdos on Fetlife.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (priwn)

The Fett Life ain't easy.

Posted by: Boba Fett at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (7HtZB)

126 The result of this law is going to be more gay men with AIDS.

More dead gay men, who can thank the Left for that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (oVJmc)

127 The attempts to defend this bill are the worst part. Its so stupid, the arguments they are using.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (39g3+)

128

This comes from the same people who OUTLAW car idling.

These are the same people who made it a CRIME to leave an engine running.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (czg0O)

129 Send the mayor of San Juan there. She wants AIDS? They'll giver her AIDS.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (/qEW2)

130 Wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (QM5S2)

131 I still prefer the pronoun: No Officer, that guy never touched me.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (2mC6G)

132

These are the same people who OUTLAWED plastic bags and plastic cups.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (czg0O)

133 All CA donated blood henceforth needs to be embargoed by the rest of the US. Hear that, Red Cross, Inc? Or victims will be suing your ass into well deserved oblivion.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (7A6l6)

134 117 I live in CA. Last month I bought a fishing lure that had the cancer warning sticker on it. No joke. Any trout that bites my lure has a lot more to worry about than cancer.
Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (xPl2J)

Seriously?

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (Ri/rl)

135 Meanwhile, California will also punish people for "misgendering" people who've actually misgendered themselves.

MiniTrue: Well done, comrades, well done

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (493sH)

136 Fine.

Then I demand to be called emperor.
Posted by: Emperor CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (wYseH)

Well, HarryParatestes (HarryParatestes preferred pronoun, by the way) think emperor's point is well received. However, it's really hard to remember emperor's preferred pronoun when writing a sentence. But if that is what emperor wants, the rest of the horde must oblige, or face jail time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (wmaTe)

137

I don't believe the gay community will even go along with this.

They are going too far on everything. Everything. You have to be a pyscho at this point to still "believe" in the cult of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (fceHP)

138 Yeah, but the weather's great!

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (NWiLs)

139 I remember them telling us that AIDS would become a straight epidemic by the beginning of the '90s.

It didn't. And they're still mad about that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (oVJmc)

140 Just further evidence of California's suicide pact. The problem is California is not an isolated population and it can spread the consequences of its actions among us.

Posted by: Locke Common at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (pYsP+)

141 So.

If you're a parent in CA and your child is injured and in need of blood.....

Yeah.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (PFy0L)

142 @39

More likely, the Snail Darter would suddenly lose its political clout.

Posted by: junior at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (M3s+4)

143
California was the source of the infections in the American body politic.

Oh please Pelosi is from Baltimore and Boxer is from Brooklyn and the list goes on.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (lKyWE)

144
Speaking of PR, aren't we overdue from finding out that all the $$ for storm relief was spent on running the PR govt?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (czg0O)

145 So you're a Californian who gets hit by a car driven by a drunken uninsured Mexican and then you get to play Russian Roulette at the emergency room. After all of that, you, and only you, get the bill for everything. Yeah, sign me up for that. Stuff the Globalists didn't think through.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (YV+SU)

146 107 Hate to be the person wait....human?? that does the states travel and leisure advertising.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 10, 2017 03:39 PM (WLK0w)

"Don't assume my species, het-cis-scum"

-- Hermaphrodite Dragon with 7 penises in charge of the California Tourism Board

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (XMDuf)

147 134 117 I live in CA. Last month I bought a fishing lure that had the cancer warning sticker on it. No joke. Any trout that bites my lure has a lot more to worry about than cancer.
Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:40 PM (xPl2J)

Seriously?
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (Ri/rl)

If it wasn't there, then people might eat the fishing lures and get cancer. It's for the children!!!!

Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (7HtZB)

148 Yes, I know not all gays are like this, but THIS one certainly is, and he got duly elected by someone.

Not all straights are Harvey W. either.

Posted by: navybrat at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (w7KSn)

149 I identify as an innocent guy.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (2mC6G)

150 How much longer are Californians going to tolerate this lawlessness?

Posted by: Iblis at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (9221z)

151 Not with millennials, Home Depot has a how to video teaching how to use a tape measure. Really, a tape measure.

--

That is...if they can come out of their Pause Pods long enough to watch it.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (mQ0Mc)

152 You MUST bake them a cake, but you don't have to tell them you're infecting them with AIDS.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:44 PM (oVJmc)

153 The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV. To make people comfortable talking about their infection, get tested, get into treatment.

This is what he actually believes. And it is abject insanity.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 10, 2017 03:38 PM (mQ0Mc)

Given that Bill Clinton famously remarked that abortions should be "safe, legal, and rare" I don't believe this for one second. Since when has destigmatizing anything helped control it? Didn't happen with abortion, or teen pregnancy, or divorce.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (KUaJL)

154 I used to visit California regularly to see relatives.
Some nice aspects, but not really worth the hassle.
Visit, yeah... live there, why???

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (zSVEm)

155 So you no longer have to sodomize someone or reuse needles to get HIV, just get in an accident where you need blood.

Is there a sign on the Nevada border with California that reads Welcome to Hell?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (Re0pQ)

156
I'd like to be introduced to Jerry Brown and have him call me a he and then I'll let him know I'm actually a Xbztlmnvr. And have the bastard arrested

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (493sH)

157 7 3 I need to escape this state
Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 10, 2017
*
*
And I need to flee mine. A list of still moderately sane states, anybody? Idaho? Montana?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (W1BJy)

Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, Arizona. Could use folks to vote against Flake in AZ too.

Posted by: Bernette at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (LWyIT)

158 California makes porn actors wear condoms, but you can willfully spread HIV.

Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (7HtZB)

159
These are the same people who OUTLAWED plastic bags and plastic cups.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 03:42 PM (czg0O)

I'm glad they did that.The difference is amazing.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (lKyWE)

160 Ryan White wept.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (QQ+il)

161 80 I am a regular blood donor. That has just ended. When the Red Cross calls me every six weeks, I will be sure to let them know that until this changes, I am done giving blood.
Posted by: One at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (RYASC)

Those vampires hound me as well. One of the biggest problems with the RC (at least in the northeast) is their blood drives are during work hours - rarely after 6pm, hardly ever on weekends. A nonprofit I volunteer with sponsors 2 drives a year and each one for the last 3 years has been a charlie-foxtrot. Not enough beds, phlebotomists, etc. People with appointments waiting for 1+hrs AFTER their scheduled time. And because we (the volunteer org) are hosting -- we catch all the grief because of their ineptitude.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (jxbfJ)

162 The bigger picture seems to be defining deviancy down.

Recall that Holder and Lynch bot pressured states to reclassify many felonies to misdemeanors. California obliged by passing Prop 47, and now this. The next step is then lightening up on the long-term requirements for misdemeanors, as we see with CA's decision to have sexual predators register for 10 years following the crime, and then no more.

Honestly don't know what the end game here is except chaos?
If someone has more insight on the "why" behind this overall push against punishing criminals, let me know...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (W+vEI)

163 122 Also have to love the 'It's not fair to gays' from one side of a prog mouth and 'AIDS isn't just a gay thing, you know' from the other.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 10, 2017 03:41 PM (rp9xB)

Alternatively : "It's not fair to gays" out of one side and "You know what we need? 30 Million More Muslims!" out of the other.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (XMDuf)

164 what if the baker puts aids in the cake?

Posted by: illiniwek at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (/aIFg)

165 Is there a sign on the Nevada border with California that reads Welcome to Hell?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (Re0pQ)
---
Somebody should tell Mr. Trump we might need another fence.

Seriously, John Carpenter didn't think big enough.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (2mC6G)

166 88 It's funny that the State that requires a cancer warning on virtually everything thinks that AIDS is no biggie.

Yep. By rights any infected ghey should at least be required to wear one of those idiotic Prop 65 warnings on his scrotum.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (Mouru)

The tattoo parlors will be packed! Oh and a bar code.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (8Cguq)

167 The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV. To make people comfortable talking about their infection, get tested, get into treatment.

Hey, it worked for Ebola. Look how fast the medical community found a cure for Ebola once Obama started importing the disease into the United States.

Once the rich white patriarchy has to worry about infection, they'll get serious about finding a cure when the disease is a threat to them personally.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (m9X4Y)

168 California really seems determined to turn into hell. I mean... its like they're deliberately attempting to pick the worst possible decisions in every single circumstance. Oregon is walking the same route though. The legislature is going crazy here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (39g3+)

169 The Dept of Homeland Security should put out a travel warning:

"Due to lax attention being paid to the spread of potentially fatal disease, citizens should avoid all travel to California."

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (3myMJ)

170 7
3 I need to escape this state

Posted by: Eisenhorn at October 10, 2017

*

*

And I need to flee mine. A list of still moderately sane states, anybody? Idaho? Montana?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (W1BJy)

I live in terrible blue state as well, NY. But the odd thing is, I live upstate in a very reddish-purple enclave. Working middle class folks. Lots of Trump signs out last fall. My daughter says the pledge of allegiance every morning at her public school and nobody protests. Yet anyway.
A lot of folks don't know that outside of NYC, the rest of the state is fairly conservative or at least moderate. But that liberal cesspool gets all the attention, and controls all of the elections. The state government is entirely owned by corrupt liberal sleazeballs.I wish we could separate from NYC. Or saw it off and let it sink into the Atlantic.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

171 Gah...there are days I hate living here..well, actually it is most days.

Posted by: IC at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (a0IVu)

172 The interesting times, they're getting stoopider.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (vtcmf)

173 That will be one of the new questions down at the bloodwerks:
Have you lived in or received any blood products from California in the last five years?

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (QM5S2)

174 They're just spreading the sanctuary city policy down to the viral level.

It's an act of love.

Wait ...

Posted by: iJeb! at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (QQ+il)

175 Wisconsin's not bad, if you avoid the big cities.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (z3Hmr)

176 Missouri is a sane state, with a rotting big city and a bat crazy university.
We did elect an excellent Governor.

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (zSVEm)

177 155 So you no longer have to sodomize someone or reuse needles to get HIV, just get in an accident where you need blood.

Is there a sign on the Nevada border with California that reads Welcome to Hell?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:45 PM (Re0pQ)

There is a sign, but it says the same thing as the tramp stamp on Lena Dunham

"Abandon all hope all ye who enter here".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (jxbfJ)

178 I remember them telling us that AIDS would become a straight epidemic by the beginning of the '90s.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:43 PM (oVJmc)

Yup. No amount of hyperventilating will change the reality of the virus.

It is passed most easily via blood (transfusions and sharing needles), and anal intercourse. Then far down the line comes heterosexual transmission from man to woman, Woman to man is unlikely.

All blood banks test for HIV anyway, so the problem is not huge. But it does exist, because the tests are not perfect.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (wYseH)

179 Quarantine the entire state.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (mcI77)

180
126 The result of this law is going to be more gay men with AIDS.

More dead gay men, who can thank the Left for that.
-----------------
Something teh Gay Community doesn't want you to remember is that they pretty much wiped out the hemophiliac population in the US with their tainted blood. Remember Elton John buying the teenager dying of aids a car for his 16th B-Day. The kid died a year later. Teh blessings of butt love.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (YV+SU)

181 I find this terrifying. I've had blood transfusions. My step FIL is undergoing an experimental cancer treatment and he has to have transfusions all the time.
I hope my mother doesn't see this story.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (Ri/rl)

182 I am hassled about donating blood because four years ago I was in Afghanistan. That is an obstacle, but having a blood borne virus that will kill people isn't? Right- we don't want to stigmatize anyone, ever, even at the price of our very lives.

Into the sea, California. Into. The. Sea.

Posted by: CPT11A at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (gY9Ct)

183 yet porn stars in cali have to wear condms, goggles, dental dams, etc. yeah cali, you make sense.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (KP5rU)

184 California 2017 = South Carolina 1860

Positive: America will be a better country once this is accepted as true. California is in rebellion.

Posted by: William Eaton at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (MuTTO)

185 181

I meant step father.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (Ri/rl)

186 I am a regular blood donor. That has just ended. When the Red Cross calls me every six weeks, I will be sure to let them know that until this changes, I am done giving blood.

I stopped when I discovered the local director for the Red Cross makes over $165K/yr and I'd been funemployed for a couple of years.

And I'm giving them my blood for free?

Guess what's not gonna happen anymore?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (tRaq7)

187 The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV.

The stigma is DEATH. That should be powerful enough to make you exercise caution.

But no, that means it's behavior-based and involves personal responsibility.

Which is obviously why the Left hates it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (oVJmc)

188 Geez! It was like we were forced to wear a Yellow Triangle!!!

Posted by: The Liberated HIV-positive of California at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (2mC6G)

189 Hey we have plastic with the lowest amount of carcinogens in the entire country!

*sneakily kicks HIV infected bag of blood into corner*

Posted by: Marcus T at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (Re0pQ)

190
Alternatively : "It's not fair to gays" out of one side and "You know what we need? 30 Million More Muslims!" out of the other.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 03:46 PM (XMDuf)

No shit. When they start 'falling' off buildings then HIV won't be a big thing.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (8Cguq)

191 170, Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

Same thing on my street - mostly all voted Trump (we whispered about it to each other). And there were definitely more Trump lawn signs in the neighborhood ..nary a Clinton and a few Bernie.

Posted by: IC at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (a0IVu)

192 Most of the homos there probably already have AIDS. By donating, now they will be able to let the straights know how they feel. The nerve of them, having straight privilege.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (/qEW2)

193

It's nice to see you being a wiseguy. Funny stuff. If you had a day job, I'd say quit it, and go comedy pro. Omg, still laffing.

Posted by: 13times at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (WHVu+)

194 170
I live in terrible blue state as well, NY. But the odd thing is, I live upstate in a very reddish-purple enclave......

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

How far upstate? North of Albany? Or west?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (jxbfJ)

195 @78 Bro, I lived in by God West Virginia for awhile. If you were so inclined, you set tables outside their Walmarts next to the Girl Scouts selling cookies, and have enough militia after a long holiday weekend.

Posted by: One at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (RYASC)

196 Y'all let me know when things get stupid enough for the fighting to commence.

Posted by: Weasel at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (Sfs6o)

197 New state motto:

California, come for the beaches, stay for the Aids.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (3myMJ)

198 I think the defining problem with locales could be generalized with the word "city"... the bigger, the badder... Cities are a magnet for problematical problems.

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 03:50 PM (zSVEm)

199 What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone
with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to
hemophiliac children?
---
More people with HIV = more people dependent on "or else" medication, which, if they can't afford it, will have to be supplied by government run healthcare.

And hey, you don't want to get HIV and not have government run healthcare there to take care of you, so you better vote for government run healthcare.

Posted by: Methos at October 10, 2017 03:50 PM (XQvuQ)

200 Weiner has also dismissed concerns about religious freedom regarding the criminal punishments for health care workers who don't use transgender pronouns.

"Everyone is entitled to their religious view," he said. "But when you enter the public space, when you are running an institution, you are in a workplace, you are in a civil setting, and you have to follow the law."

Follow the law? Like immigration laws?

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2017 03:50 PM (Enq6K)

201 burn baby, burn

and I live in this colossally f'd up state...

Posted by: the Butcher at October 10, 2017 03:50 PM (DIosY)

202 "What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone
with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to
hemophiliac children?"

Because a bigger pile of little skulls is needed, their "gods" cry out for more blood.

Posted by: geoffb at October 10, 2017 03:50 PM (zOpu5)

203 And I need to flee mine. A list of still moderately sane states, anybody? Idaho? Montana?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2017 03:27 PM (W1BJy)

Iowa is pretty decent, especially the rural areas. People here are conservative and incredibly polite, to the point that it regularly causes traffic jams.

Posted by: pookysgirl at October 10, 2017 03:50 PM (XKZwp)

204 The result of this law is going to be more gay men with AIDS.

And we'll be mercilessly browbeaten by the left and the Ghey Mafia for not doing something about it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (vtcmf)

205 Honestly don't know what the end game here is except chaos?
If someone has more insight on the "why" behind this overall push against punishing criminals, let me know...

Posted by: Lizzy

They expect Trump to be a flash in the pan and The System will endure forever.

Thus they don't consider what happens when The System collapses.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (AM1GF)

206 Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

California is the same way, it's a big state. We are not all crazy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (Ri/rl)

207

Well, the good news is that the blood supply is safer than ever due to better testing, although not perfect.

The bad news is we are using more blood than ever because, surprise, it's better than or complements the use of other treatments and we are still coming to understand just how good it is.

Functionally, blood is an organ not just 'stuff' and in emergency and critical care you are getting a transplant.

Bottom line: if you might need it bank it ahead of time; insist on blood salvage during surgery; take blood bank products as little as possible. But DO take it if you are in the shit; life's a risk and sometimes you have to risk to win.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (t3kPl)

208 "What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children?"

The best theory I've seen is that Big Pharma currently has a number of effective anti-HIV drugs under patent that could be making more money if HIV prevention were less effective...

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (3J/LN)

209 > 41 There is absolutely no justification in any possible way for removing the disclosure requirements for donating blood. None. Not a single solitary one.

I don't donate because the Red Cross prohibits donations from people who lived in Western Europe during the 80's for fear of mad cow prion contamination. I follow this even knowing I could just lie if I wanted to. How mindsick does a person have to be to want HIV running free in the stock?

Posted by: Johnny Pedantic at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (6OESk)

210 Is Vic smiling?

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (3myMJ)

211 I remember them telling us that AIDS would become a straight epidemic by the beginning of the '90s.

It didn't. And they're still mad about that.
===========
Every single story about AIDS, every news article, every news broadcast, every discussion back in the 80's absolutely made sure to make it very clear that heterosexuals could and did get AIDS.

Hey, this is a good time to remind the left how their hero Castro in Cuba solved the AIDS problem.
He locked them all up in a special prison until they died off.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (sUh6s)

212 Burn it down.
Piss on the ashes.
Sow the earth with Cobalt-60 where it stood.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (NWiLs)

213 184
California 2017 = South Carolina 1860

Positive: America will be a better country once this is accepted as true. California is in rebellion.
Posted by: William Eaton at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (MuTTO)

They can do what they want, as long as that stays there.

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 03:52 PM (zSVEm)

214 "72 It's funny that the State that requires a cancer warning on virtually everything thinks that AIDS is no biggie.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at October 10, 2017 03:35 PM (8NLb9)"

I was in San Jose, oh, at least 20 years ago and was somewhat amused by a disclaimer at a sandwich shop saying that your lunch may have been prepared by - a smoker.

You get more carcinogens from wearing a dry cleaned suit than you do from having a smoker prepare your food.

Posted by: West at October 10, 2017 03:52 PM (1Rgee)

215 Jerry Brown can throw an odd curve ball every now and then. He just vetoed a ban on smoking at beaches and parks because he said govt shouldn't be telling people they can't smoke there.

Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:52 PM (xPl2J)

216 But no, that means it's behavior-based and involves personal responsibility.

Which is obviously why the Left hates it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (oVJmc)

yep, and by making it just a disease like oooohh cancer (right), then the lifestyle shoulld not be judged...by all you judgy judgers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 10, 2017 03:52 PM (8Cguq)

217 206
Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

California is the same way, it's a big state. We are not all crazy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 10, 2017 03:51 PM (Ri/rl)

Your PR is.... lamentable, though...

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (zSVEm)

218
The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV.

Don't you get more of what you destigmatize?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (lKyWE)

219 The stigma is DEATH. That should be powerful enough to make you exercise caution.

Not any more. There's good enough drugs that HIV-positive people can live pretty much indefinitely.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (3J/LN)

220 FL, believe it or not, is still a relatively free and sane state in terms of public policy. Traffic can be a real bitch though.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (NWiLs)

221 A lot of folks don't know that outside of NYC, the rest of the state is fairly conservative or at least moderate. But that liberal cesspool gets all the attention, and controls all of the elections. The state government is entirely owned by corrupt liberal sleazeballs.I wish we could separate from NYC. Or saw it off and let it sink into the Atlantic.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

The same is true of Illnois.

The good thing about Wisconsin is that Madison and Milwaukee are not big enough to completely dominate the politics of the rest of the state.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (ZM2xo)

222 Dentist appointment and cleaning this morning. The hygienist is known as The Giver of Pain.

My teeth hurt.

Posted by: Weasel at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (Sfs6o)

223 Sure. Take a vacation in CA. I mean it's not like your going to live there, huh?

BTW. Don't have any bad accidents there or have any malady requiring blood infusions.

And the weather is absolutely gorgeous which makes the increased risk for AIDS totally worth it.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (ZAAkQ)

224 219 The stigma is DEATH. That should be powerful enough to make you exercise caution.

Not any more. There's good enough drugs that HIV-positive people can live pretty much indefinitely.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (3J/LN)

Oh, well, that makes it all OK then.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (NWiLs)

225 215 Jerry Brown can throw an odd curve ball every now and then. He just vetoed a ban on smoking at beaches and parks because he said govt shouldn't be telling people they can't smoke there.
Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:52 PM (xPl2J)

So plastic cups & bags are bad, but cigarette butts on the beach are OK?

Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (7HtZB)

226 He just vetoed a ban on smoking at beaches and parks because he said govt shouldn't be telling people they can't smoke there.

Posted by: mark1971

Because doobies.

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (QM5S2)

227 187 The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV.

The stigma is DEATH. That should be powerful enough to make you exercise caution.

But no, that means it's behavior-based and involves personal responsibility.

Which is obviously why the Left hates it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (oVJmc)

I wouldn't be surprised if there are California Lefties (that have already infiltrated clinics and hospitals) who want a ready supply of Tainted Blood to infect various clients with when the anger strikes them to.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (XMDuf)

228 FL, believe it or not, is still a relatively free and sane state in terms of public policy. Traffic can be a real bitch though.

Orlando's relatively safe from hurricanes, but watch out for rental cars full of Asian tourists!

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (3J/LN)

229 228 FL, believe it or not, is still a relatively free and sane state in terms of public policy. Traffic can be a real bitch though.

Orlando's relatively safe from hurricanes, but watch out for rental cars full of Asian tourists!
Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (3J/LN)

Why does Andrew Dice Clay come to mind??

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (jxbfJ)

230 I guess people who don't have AIDS are racists.

Posted by: Chris M at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (eAZVt)

231 So plastic cups & bags are bad, but cigarette butts on the beach are OK?
-----------------
Tobacco, paper and cotton are all biodegradable. Plastic not so much. The beach is like a self cleaning oven as well.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (YV+SU)

232 >>222 Dentist appointment and cleaning this morning. The hygienist is known as The Giver of Pain. My teeth hurt. Posted by: Weasel at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (Sfs6o)

That was your first mistake. Always go to the dental hygienist at 4:30 pm. By then they're worn out.

Posted by: Caliban at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (DrC22)

233 Wow, trading-floor wench Nicole Petallides is showing some nice cleavage in her red dress.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (8iiMU)

234 What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children?

=======

It's unfair that most of you have Immune System Privilege!!!

Posted by: ShainS at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (dHn7J)

235 Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

That's the story of America.

Look at county-by-county election results from 2012 or 2016.

It's a sea of red with a few highly populated blue dots. The more (or bigger) your blue dots, the more likely you live in a blue state.

Only MA, VT, and HI buck that trend.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (wmaTe)

236 215 Jerry Brown can throw an odd curve ball every now and then. He just vetoed a ban on smoking at beaches and parks because he said govt shouldn't be telling people they can't smoke there.

Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:52 PM (xPl2J)

I'm surprised anybody is allowed to smoke anywhere at all in California. Of course, I'm talking about tobacco. Maybe Jerry meant pot.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (ZM2xo)

237 So plastic cups & bags are bad, but cigarette butts on the beach are OK?
Posted by: josephistan at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (7HtZB)
---
He likes butts.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (2mC6G)

238 I wish some reporter would ask Gov Moonbeam what the advantages to spreading AIDs will be.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (3myMJ)

239 Been in California since 1976, every day it gets worse. Oldest daughter is now at University of Alabama. The remaining kids will not attend a California University. Once the youngest is off to college the wife and I are out. Still got six years though.

Damn, it really is a beautiful state...wrecked.

Posted by: BuckIV at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (CLfqv)

240

yep, and by making it just a disease like oooohh cancer (right), then the lifestyle shoulld not be judged...by all you judgy judgers.

AIDS has been a mighty benefit in Victim Bingo.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (oVJmc)

241 How would you avoid misgendering someone-Just refer to them by their first name always-Not he/she.their/hir/his/shis-WHATEVER but "Rubysmith says blah...."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (iVOAv)

242 homo: "You got your Hepatitis A in my AIDS!"
illegal: "You got your AIDS in my Hepatitis A!"

Two great diseases that go great together.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (/qEW2)

243
Why does Andrew Dice Clay come to mind??
---------------
I date the fall of Andrew as the beginning of the end times brought on by Harry Potterism.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (YV+SU)

244 >>>>That Your Blood, If Not Flagged as HIV, Will Infect
.
.
.
.Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but the ARC and other major blood donation entities automatically screen for HIV among other things like Hep C and most infectious diseases even if they aren't listed on the donation card.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (+Dllb)

245 228 FL, believe it or not, is still a relatively free and sane state in terms of public policy. Traffic can be a real bitch though.

Orlando's relatively safe from hurricanes, but watch out for rental cars full of Asian tourists!
Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:54 PM (3J/LN)

Heh. I've lived through numerous hurricanes without a scratch. I have seen my life flash before my eyes a few times on account of almost getting taken out by a carload of tourists.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (NWiLs)

246 They can do what they want, as long as that stays there.

Posted by: kraken

Except, honestly, it never really does...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (AM1GF)

247 194
170

I live in terrible blue state as well, NY. But the odd thing is, I live upstate in a very reddish-purple enclave......

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

How far upstate? North of Albany? Or west?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (jxbfJ)

Actually, right outside Albany, in the suburbs. Yeah it's weird. Down in the city and in/around UAlbany and the other colleges it's lib crazytown. And just a few miles away here in the burbs we are voting Trump and there's flags outside everybody's house.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (UfYsr)

248 The result of this law is going to be more gay men with AIDS.

That would be 'ironic.'

Gay guys don't get transfusions more than anyone else.

They get it by being the neighborhood cumdumpster for every passing train, playing bareback and hanging out with Barky.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (t3kPl)

249 215 Jerry Brown can throw an odd curve ball every now and then. He just vetoed a ban on smoking at beaches and parks because he said govt shouldn't be telling people they can't smoke there.
Posted by: mark1971 at October 10, 2017 03:52 PM (xPl2J)

What an odd thing to give a fuck about. I smoke cigarettes, and I don't smoke them on beaches, because I hate walking through the sand and stepping on cigarette butts and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I have no issue walking to the boardwalk or parking lot to smoke.

Anyways, whatever.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (wmaTe)

250 Not any more. There's good enough drugs that HIV-positive people can live pretty much indefinitely.
_____________
Indefinitely???

Posted by: BuckIV at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (CLfqv)

251 Posted by: Caliban at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (DrC22)
--------
PROs: boobs
CONs: uses pointy metal shit and a wicked little power washer inside my mouth.

Posted by: Weasel at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (Sfs6o)

252 232 >>222 Dentist appointment and cleaning this morning. The hygienist is known as The Giver of Pain. My teeth hurt. Posted by: Weasel at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (Sfs6o)

That was your first mistake. Always go to the dental hygienist at 4:30 pm. By then they're worn out.
Posted by: Caliban at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (DrC22)

Floss more.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (NWiLs)

253 yep, and by making it just a disease like oooohh cancer (right), then the lifestyle shoulld not be judged...by all you judgy judgers.

AIDS is already associated with two cancers so it has that going for it.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (3myMJ)

254 191 And there were definitely more Trump lawn signs in the neighborhood ..nary a Clinton and a few Bernie.

In my neighborhood, there's a house that *still* has a Bernie sign up.

'Course, last time there was a van with Luap Nor signs up in its windows for several months after the election, too. And I'm pretty certain that one place along I-15 still has its R3VO_|UTION sign up, too.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (sGtp+)

255 The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 03:48 PM (oVJmcya

Ya know if we had destigmatized rape i wouldn't be in this kerfluffle. And rape statistics would go down. Win win!

Posted by: Harvey at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (8Cguq)

256 Remember how they handled Ebola in the US? Obama hired a PR guy to hush it all up. They don't seem to interested in things that really involve science.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (JKNZq)

257 @243, what is "Harry Potterism"? I could use more ways to loathe JK Rowling.

Posted by: One at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (RYASC)

258 Not any more. There's good enough drugs that HIV-positive people can live pretty much indefinitely.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:53 PM (3J/LN)

Oh, well, that makes it all OK then.

That's the thing - for HIV-positive gays (who call themselves "POZ") it's become a creepy, weird lifestyle now that there's no immediate death penalty. They consider themselves to be the real gays, because status jockeying is real.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (3J/LN)

259
FL, believe it or not, is still a relatively free and sane state in terms of public policy. Traffic can be a real bitch though.

But the possibility of a man eating reptile in every puddle of water isn't attractive

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (lKyWE)

260 252 That was your first mistake. Always go to the dental hygienist at 4:30 pm. By then they're worn out.

Nonsense. There is only one proper time for dental appointments: tooth hurty.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 10, 2017 03:59 PM (sGtp+)

261 I'm old enough to remember that when AIDS activists were calling for infected people to spread infection to straights as much as possible to increase awareness, then the left followed up with advocating blood donation rights for gays. Because it was discriminatory to not let them donate blood.

Posted by: Emmie at October 10, 2017 03:59 PM (ZapPq)

262 This is sick.
I knew two brothers in the early 80's who were hemopheliacs and both died of AIDS from transfusions.
This is totally immoral and needs to be reveresed.
California is becoming a suicidal culture.

Posted by: Jdubya at October 10, 2017 03:59 PM (rB+Iv)

263 Indefinitely???

Yup. They're still far more prone to opportunistic infections, but it's not an instant death sentence.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 03:59 PM (3J/LN)

264 PROs: boobs

CONs: uses pointy metal shit and a wicked little power washer inside my mouth.

Posted by: Weasel at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (Sfs6o)

Yeah but BOOBS! Thank you for that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 10, 2017 03:59 PM (8Cguq)

265 >>Actually, right outside Albany, in the suburbs.

I used to livein West Laurens. Also, Deposit.

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2017 03:59 PM (OSiAE)

266 Orlando's relatively safe from hurricanes, but watch out for rental cars full of Asian tourists!

They need to paint all the rental vehicles the same identifying color, like a neon green or something. So that you'll be on the lookout for them doing 30 mph down I-4, making sudden right-hand turns from the extreme left lane and just stopping in the middle of the road for no reason.

Or the latest one: them sitting at a red light, then just decide to pull right out in front of you.

Other than that, the traffic down here is just fine.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (tRaq7)

267 259
FL, believe it or not, is still a relatively free and sane state in terms of public policy. Traffic can be a real bitch though.

But the possibility of a man eating reptile in every puddle of water isn't attractive
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 10, 2017 03:58 PM (lKyWE)

Not every puddle. Every third one or so.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (NWiLs)

268 Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

I know for a fact there are Trump supporters in...Chappaqua.

Let that sink in.

Chappaqua.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (AM1GF)

269 >>PROs: boobs
CONs: uses pointy metal shit and a wicked little power washer inside my mouth.
Posted by: Weasel at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (Sfs6o)

Sounds hot!

Posted by: Caliban at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (DrC22)

270 Dow Closes Up 69.

Trump, you genius!

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (OSiAE)

271 Heh. I have a friend who is bipolar and OCD. He's very proud of his teeth. But his dentist told him that if he didn't stop brushing so violently into his gums he'd have to have gum surgery.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (3myMJ)

272 Gay guys don't get transfusions more than anyone else.

They get it by being the neighborhood cumdumpster for every passing train, playing bareback and hanging out with Barky.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (t3kPl)
---
It's really not a "gay disease. Lesbians call themselves "gay", and lesbians don't get it.

It's really the "receiver disease".

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (2mC6G)

273 257 @243, what is "Harry Potterism"? I could use more ways to loathe JK Rowling.
------------------
Worship of the Half Blood Prince. The belief that if you attend the right college you have special powers not permitted to others with the mission to scour society on your flying broom to stomp out despicable muggles.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (YV+SU)

274 It's really not a "gay disease. Lesbians call themselves "gay", and lesbians don't get it.

It's really the "receiver disease".
Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (2mC6G)

well, its a little impolite to call it the bloody anus disease.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (wmaTe)

275 California: The Bug Chasing State

Posted by: x at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (nFwvY)

276 260 252 That was your first mistake. Always go to the dental hygienist at 4:30 pm. By then they're worn out.

Nonsense. There is only one proper time for dental appointments: tooth hurty.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 10, 2017 03:59 PM (sGtp+)

Word.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (8Cguq)

277 Lot of hemophiliacs got HIV this way in the 80's, no?

Are the tests so good now that the blood banks think they can screen it all out?

And after what they did in the past, shipping that tainted blood overseas when they got caught using it in the USA, there is no answer I would accept to that question.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (yL25O)

278 Am I to guess that in homosexuality it is pretty common to dislike your partner, hate him in fact, so much that you wish death upon him?

Posted by: washrivergal at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (7m3t8)

279 247 194
170

I live in terrible blue state as well, NY. But the odd thing is, I live upstate in a very reddish-purple enclave......

Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

How far upstate? North of Albany? Or west?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 10, 2017 03:49 PM (jxbfJ)

Actually, right outside Albany, in the suburbs. Yeah it's weird. Down in the city and in/around UAlbany and the other colleges it's lib crazytown. And just a few miles away here in the burbs we are voting Trump and there's flags outside everybody's house.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (UfYsr)

Grew up northeast of Albany near Saratoga. Warms my heart when I visit to see all the anti-SAFE act signs. Even though it'll never get overturned thanks to NYC.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (jxbfJ)

280 I am a regular blood donor. That has just ended.
When the Red Cross calls me every six weeks, I will be sure to let them
know that until this changes, I am done giving blood.

Posted by: One at October 10, 2017 03:36 PM (RYASC)

Or give directly to a nearby hospital. I haven't given blood in a while but I switched from the Red Cross to local hospitals a number of years ago and the Red Cross still calls me. I just ignore the calls. (I'm sure that one of the reasons they still call is that I have a very rare blood type.)

As well, if you have a military hospital nearby they may have a blood bank you can visit.

Posted by: Vendette at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (T9km8)

281 They need to paint all the rental vehicles the same identifying color, like a neon green or something. So that you'll be on the lookout for them doing 30 mph down I-4, making sudden right-hand turns from the extreme left lane and just stopping in the middle of the road for no reason.

Or the latest one: them sitting at a red light, then just decide to pull right out in front of you.

Other than that, the traffic down here is just fine.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (tRaq7)

That would be a blessing. Although I-4 right now is more fucked than usual because of construction. Toll roads are your friend down here.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (NWiLs)

282 241 How would you avoid misgendering someone-Just refer to them by their first name always-Not he/she.their/hir/his/shis-WHATEVER but "Rubysmith says blah...."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 10, 2017 03:56 PM (iVOAv)

That won't work either, since most of us are going to insist on calling them by their birth name, not their new made-up character name.

If your parents named you "Wayne Coleman", I'm not calling you "Lunamarissa Firesong".

Posted by: Hikaru at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (XMDuf)

283 Are the tests so good now that the blood banks think they can screen it all out?

And after what they did in the past, shipping that tainted blood overseas when they got caught using it in the USA, there is no answer I would accept to that question.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (yL25O)

Supposedly all blood is screened for a variety of blood-borne stuff (the heps, HIV, etc) and the tests work well.

I don't know if I'd bet my life on that though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 04:02 PM (wmaTe)

284 Watching election night videos,honestly I never paid much attention or listened to Rachael Maddow before.She seems ,uh,not all there mentally.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2017 04:02 PM (rmVvL)

285 Dude, leftists have been engaged in industrial murder of peasants and merchants for 250 years, and *this* shocks you?

It's obnoxious, but not surprising.

There's nothing wrong with California that couldn't be fixed by moving the government 1100 miles West.

Mind you, the bottom of the ocean would be crime-ridden and bankrupt in 30 years, but that's a risk we'd have to take.

Most of the people aren't that crazy, they just aren't that well-informed and don't vote much or well. Then again, if wishes were horses, we'd be up to our necks in... wait a minute, maybe wishes *are* horses!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2017 04:02 PM (wB8Tg)

286 Worship of the Half Blood Prince. The belief that if you attend the right college you have special powers not permitted to others with the mission to scour society on your flying broom to stomp out despicable muggles.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (YV+SU)

-----------------

Fucking muggles!

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2017 04:02 PM (ZAAkQ)

287 The most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to destigmatize HIV.

Don't you get more of what you destigmatize?

--

Don't let that get in the way of Sen. Weiner's rationale. Far be it from me to have more widsom than a state senator, but the most effective way to reduce HIV infections is to not spread the disease. Not by making it less stigmatizing to knowingly infect someone else with it. Hey, as long as we're sparing the HIV carrier's feelz. I guess that's the main goal.

CA is into a territory so beyond parody now they'll never find their way back to sanity.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (mQ0Mc)

288 Am I to guess that in homosexuality it is pretty common to dislike your partner, hate him in fact, so much that you wish death upon him?

I wouldn't be suprised. Projection.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (oVJmc)

289 >>270 Dow Closes Up 69.

Thread winner.

Posted by: Caliban at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (DrC22)

290 But the possibility of a man eating reptile in every puddle of water isn't attractive

You haven't lived until you experienced the adrenaline rush of an 8-ft gator wheeling around to take a good look at you from about 15 feet away.

On a golf course. I got a really low score that day, because I un-assed myself immediately.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (tRaq7)

291 You may call me Master, but never call me Maurice.

Posted by: Lord Bates of Onan at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (zH37Z)

292 I've got it. Change the name from AIDS or HIV to "Brown's Disease".

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (3myMJ)

293 212

Bit of a coward, aren't you. Burn it down? piss on th ashes? And your weather snark at upthread? Regular comedian.

You should triple down on the smarm, burnt corpse jokes are hilarious.

Posted by: 13times at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (WHVu+)

294 Yeah, but we can vape on the beach, so this is kind of a push.....

Posted by: Mortis at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (9JhRE)

295 I say we build that danged fence. I support the danged fence. Build that danged fence and California will pay for the danged thing.

Posted by: Juan McCain at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (xttKs)

296 244
.Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but the ARC and other major blood donation entities automatically screen for HIV among other things like Hep C and most infectious diseases even if they aren't listed on the donation card.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (+Dllb)

The problem is these viruses keep mutating and more blood-borne illnesses keep appearing in that population. There is NO guarantee the screenings can keep up with this.

Posted by: Emmie at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (ZapPq)

297 278 Am I to guess that in homosexuality it is pretty common to dislike your partner, hate him in fact, so much that you wish death upon him?
Posted by: washrivergal at October 10, 2017 04:01 PM (7m3t

Okay, some real talk:

Gay guys, like all guys, hate to use condoms.

There is a... promiscuous... element in the gay community, where anonymous or semi-anonymous sex is not uncommon.

The guys with HIV don't want to face a felony if they have condom-less sex with some random guy who gets HIV, figures out where they got it, and then goes to the cops and says, "Steve knew he had HIV, but still had sex with me without using a condom, and now I have HIV."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (wmaTe)

298 What about all the elites that live in California if they need some operation requiring blood plasma? Now they'll have to go out of state if they need treatment. Or else have access to some private, untainted blood supply.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (/qEW2)

299 270
Dow Closes Up 69.

Trump, you genius!

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (OSiAE)
Market watch for 23,000 coming up. Notice the media never talks about this...if Obama were Potus, it would have been wall to wall coverage with reporters roaming around the trading floor.

Posted by: IC at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (a0IVu)

300 268 Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)

I know for a fact there are Trump supporters in...Chappaqua.

Let that sink in.

Chappaqua.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at October 10, 2017 04:00 PM (AM1GF)

That doesn't surprise me, actually. They see the Clinton up close. Some have undoubtedly run into Hillary drunkenly stumbling around in the woods with a vodka bottle in her hand, screeching, "Why am I not 50 points ahead!"

That would make anybody support Trump.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (ZM2xo)

301 Here's what I don't understand about the whole pronoun thing--when you're talking to someone, the third person pronoun is "you." He, she, it are never used in direct address so how would the transgender person know that you were using the wrong pronoun?

Only if you were talking about the transgender person to someone else and that someone else snitched on you. And even then you could deny it.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (LQLeS)

302 I feel that the Great Golden State Hootenanny is about half over, give or take. The menu of diseases is due for some spectacular mutations sometime soon. Add in some time for the cover-up and denial (hysteresis, in engineering terms), but soon. No pun intended. Or double entendre.

Posted by: jeff at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (RuIsu)

303 I saw a trailer for a movie about smoke jumpers,I assume it is about that whole unit that got trapped and killed some years back.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (rmVvL)

304 I'm surprised the CDC still states blood transfusion as higher risk.

they better take care of that quick i guess.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (FKrah)

305 You may call me Master, but never call me Maurice.
Posted by: Lord Bates of Onan at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (zH37Z)
---
Some people call me Maurice.

Posted by: Steve Miller at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (2mC6G)

306 Posted by: 13times at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (WHVu+)

Well bless your heart.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (NWiLs)

307 >>"Steve knew he had HIV, but still had sex with me without using a condom, and now I have HIV."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 04:04 PM (wmaTe)

Is that a banning offense?

Posted by: garrett at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (OSiAE)

308 268 Posted by: Agent Cooper at October 10, 2017 03:47 PM (UfYsr)
I vacation every year in the Finger Lakes cuz in-laws. This past summer I was shocked when I found no one sporting a Hillary bumper sticker. THAT WAS ONE BIG TELL. No one. And I was hanging out in Skaneateles and bumping into Billy Baldwin. I knew something was up.

I also noticed an awful lot of Confederate Flags. You Yankees getting any ideas?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (YV+SU)

309 Speaking of Harry Potter actors... I have observed that Emma Watson has the acting range of Kristen Stewart.

Since Kristen Stewart is not an obnoxious Prog, to my knowledge, I hope her skills improve with age.

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (zSVEm)

310 Koming soon in Kalifornia:

Reduced/eliminated criminal penalties for "protected classes" (in case they're charged/convicted at all, which is doubtful).

Just wait.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 10, 2017 04:06 PM (zpqa2)

311 Pretty big breakout of the Plague in Madagascar. Probably best to ignore it and accept blood donations from there.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 10, 2017 04:06 PM (XFue2)

312 Actually, right outside Albany, in the suburbs. Yeah it's weird. Down in the city and in/around UAlbany and the other colleges it's lib crazytown. And just a few miles away here in the burbs we are voting Trump and there's flags outside everybody's house.

I'm actually very happy to read that. Grew up there in the years when the Northway had a sign that read "Exit 7 to be built". Was a great place to grow up and loved it, glad to hear that it has not completely gone off the rails. Last time I was through there exit 7 had finally been built, plus 8A, 8B and nary a corn field to be found.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at October 10, 2017 04:06 PM (kUmUV)

313 New GOP campaign ad "Vote for us we're less insane!"

Posted by: Iblis at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (9221z)

314

A very large amount of HIV transmission in the US if via IV drug use.

A widely known but never commented on speculation is that if you stopped Narcan-ing junkies that OD, the HIV rate would go down...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (t3kPl)

315

You know, this is the epitome of the "useful idiot" for anyone that backs this.

If you can come up with a "political wedge" along the tick-the-box lines, no matter how outrageous, the Dems will do it. They are so dangerous.

They do not care about blacks, gays, women, and children, and will use every hideous scenario that the most whacked psycho can come up with to drive that voter wedge.

They are simply trolling for votes. Waiting, like a lion, to pounce on any conservative to respond.

Sick. So sick.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (fceHP)

316 If it's not already a federal crime, make it a federal crime. Knowingly passing along a deadly virus should fall under domestic terrorism.

Posted by: Under Fire at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (mcI77)

317 This is why that gay NFL player's protest went nowhere. Shoulda tied it AIDS hate.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (3myMJ)

318 He, she, it are never used in direct address so how would the transgender person know that you were using the wrong pronoun?

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (LQLeS)
---
It is the job of all good citizens to inform the authorities.

Posted by: Big Brother at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (2mC6G)

319 >>Pretty big breakout of the Plague in Madagascar.

Shit. I had a ton of armies massed there!

Posted by: RISK Player at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (OSiAE)

320 309 Well,she was in that one stupid Abu Graib movie.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (rmVvL)

321 Great timing. San Diego has hepatitis in the streets and they pass this now.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (xfb67)

322
Posted by: 13times

You shut up.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 04:08 PM (czg0O)

323 Tellingly, Blade Runner 2049 is set in Los Angeles, Calif.

Posted by: jb at October 10, 2017 04:08 PM (CIBIw)

324

Deaths will eventually be traced back to these tools.

Death, murder. Sue California. Break that camel's back for good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 10, 2017 04:08 PM (fceHP)

325 290 But the possibility of a man eating reptile in every puddle of water isn't attractive

You haven't lived until you experienced the adrenaline rush of an 8-ft gator wheeling around to take a good look at you from about 15 feet away.

On a golf course. I got a really low score that day, because I un-assed myself immediately.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (tRaq7)

Yeppers. Fished a lot of ponds in FL also on golf courses. Cant see them in the grass even right on top sometimes. I'e soiled myself when they hit the water right where your foot went.

Pro tip: Do not sit on abridge and let your feet dangle in the water. Nope. Do not.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 10, 2017 04:08 PM (8Cguq)

326 CA Democrats have an absolute stranglehold in the state gov, so they're running as wild as they possibly can.

These seemingly "crazy" actions are the Dems looking to shield what they see as their key voter demographics from legal repercussions, most importantly reclassifying felonies to misdemeanors in order to preserve their ability to vote.

Posted by: Sjg at October 10, 2017 04:08 PM (gDSJf)

327 Reason No. 2 the gay NFL player's protest didn't go anywhere:

Couldn't get any players other than Cam Newton to flounce and do ballerina spins during the anthem.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (3myMJ)

328 I'm a California exile who was born and raised in southern CA and now has been living in VA for past 4 years. I dream of getting back home. I want to walk the boardwalk in Laguna and eat again at my favorite cafes. I want to surf Swamis and Trestles and SanO again.

But the state is effing messed up. I don't think I can make it home again. It breaks my heart.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (MMB6S)

329 Let's form a new company where you join a pool of blood donors that is carefully screened to match certain disease-free criteria.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (yL25O)

330 I don't think California has that much extra room in their prison systems to jail people who use the wrong pronoun - - - unless they do early releases for murderers, rapists, drug dealers, etc.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (7m3t8)

331 'Hep-C in the Streets
it's up to my ankles
Hep-C in the Streets
it's up to my knee...'

Posted by: Zombie Jim Morrison at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (OSiAE)

332 Yeppers. Fished a lot of ponds in FL also on golf courses. Cant see them in the grass even right on top sometimes. I'e soiled myself when they hit the water right where your foot went.

Pro tip: Do not sit on abridge and let your feet dangle in the water. Nope. Do not.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 10, 2017 04:08 PM (8Cguq)

Those sumbitches are sneaky.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (NWiLs)

333 309 - Maybe, but Watson can at least keep her mouth closed; Stewart's mouth is constantly hanging open like a lobotomy patient.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (8NLb9)

334 Tellingly, Blade Runner 2049 is set in Los Angeles, Calif.
Posted by: jb at October 10, 2017 04:08 PM (CIBIw)

I know. It's like they are admitting to their own demise.

I saw it yesterday.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (fceHP)

335
But the possibility of a man eating reptile in every puddle of water isn't attractive

You haven't lived until you experienced the adrenaline rush of an
8-ft gator wheeling around to take a good look at you from about 15 feet
away.

On a golf course. I got a really low score that day, because I un-assed myself immediately.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 10, 2017 04:03 PM (tRaq7)-------------------------------------------------

Florida and S. Georgia are the Australias of the U. S.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (PY9jH)

336 This past summer I was shocked when I found no one sporting a Hillary bumper sticker. THAT WAS ONE BIG TELL. No one. And I was hanging out in Skaneateles and bumping into Billy Baldwin. I knew something was up.

I also noticed an awful lot of Confederate Flags. You Yankees getting any ideas?
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (YV+SU)
---
That was the deceptive thing that probably hurt Hillary, the most. Her campaign decided they'd be "modern". No bumper stickers, no yard signs.

She might have won if people didn't get the perception from this that nobody was voting of her. What a pooch-screw of a campaign from our "superiors"!

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 04:10 PM (2mC6G)

337 nood

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 10, 2017 04:10 PM (wmaTe)

338
Some people call me Maurice.

Posted by: Steve Miller at October 10, 2017 04:05 PM (2mC6G)

Some call me the pompotus of plant love.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at October 10, 2017 04:10 PM (tbOMB)

339 So anyone suspecting that Anheuser Busch looked at the phone calls at that number and gave Goodell an earful?

Posted by: buzzion at October 10, 2017 04:10 PM (z/Ubi)

340
Florida and S. Georgia are the Australias of the U. S.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (PY9jH)

Heh. That's about right.

Posted by: Insomniac - The Left Hates You and Wants You to Die at October 10, 2017 04:10 PM (NWiLs)

341 Damn willowed.

Posted by: buzzion at October 10, 2017 04:11 PM (z/Ubi)

342 Did anyone here watch that movie with Emma Watson and Tom Hanks?? What was it about, and did she ever DO anything except look puzzled??

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 04:11 PM (zSVEm)

343 Pretty big breakout of the Plague in Madagascar.

---

Self-correcting problem. Just ignore it, and it will fix itself, eventually.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at October 10, 2017 04:11 PM (m9X4Y)

344 Sonobi encroaches into the comment field; most unsightly!

Posted by: Bonecrusher at October 10, 2017 04:11 PM (JNTt1)

345 319 >>Pretty big breakout of the Plague in Madagascar.

Shit. I had a ton of armies massed there!
Posted by: RISK Player at October 10, 2017 04:07 PM (OSiAE)

...

They weren't Nepalese by chance?

Posted by: Haitian Cholera Victims at October 10, 2017 04:11 PM (yL25O)

346

Florida and S. Georgia are the Australias of the U. S.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (PY9jH)

---------------

What? You can't buy guns in FL or GA?

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2017 04:11 PM (ZAAkQ)

347
They need to paint all the rental vehicles the same identifying color, like a neon green or something. So that you'll be on the lookout for them doing 30 mph down I-4, making sudden right-hand turns from the extreme left lane and just stopping in the middle of the road for no reason.

If there were more alternatives to I-4 it'd be fine, but until they finish the beltway up around Apopka so 414 connects to 417 the area's kind of crippled traffic-wise.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2017 04:12 PM (3J/LN)

348 i don't understand why they would condone this. While i realize blood supplies are checked, what if some tests procedure fails?
and knowingly giving someone a lifetime of needed medical care to control the virus causing damage to many body systems?
but the lifetime of at this point even if they catch it sooner, is forever on meds.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2017 04:12 PM (FKrah)

349 I don't think California has that much extra room in their prison systems to jail people who use the wrong pronoun - - - unless they do early releases for murderers, rapists, drug dealers, etc.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (7m3t

---
But the sodomy will keep people on the straight and narrow. Sure, you misgender somebody once, and we throw you to the thugs, that we're doing nothing about, and learn a painful lesson about manners.

Posted by: Californ ya at October 10, 2017 04:12 PM (2mC6G)

350 Hollywood is in california and it's a diseased mass of shit. California is allowing it to spread and how has opened the flood gates.

The next antifa rally in California will include HIV blood piss in jars thrown at cops.

Good job, Cali. You elected governor Brown because as a whole, you people are fucking stupid.

Posted by: Sponge at October 10, 2017 04:12 PM (xttKs)

351 Hey willow, let's swim upstream to the new thread...

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 04:13 PM (zSVEm)

352 .Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but the ARC and other major blood donation entities automatically screen for HIV among other things like Hep C and most infectious diseases even if they aren't listed on the donation card.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 10, 2017 03:57 PM (+Dllb)

I was going to ask if donated blood wasn't already screened for diseases, including AIDS but no one had brought it up so I thought maybe I was just wrong.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2017 04:13 PM (Enq6K)

353

nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 10, 2017 04:13 PM (czg0O)

354 Did anyone here watch that movie with Emma Watson and Tom Hanks?? What was it about, and did she ever DO anything except look puzzled??

Posted by: kraken at October 10, 2017 04:11 PM (zSVEm)
---
?????

Posted by: Emma Watson at October 10, 2017 04:13 PM (2mC6G)

355
There is a... promiscuous... element in the gay community, where anonymous or semi-anonymous sex is not uncommon.

Anonymous sex in the gay male community is a sizable element and the attitude among HIV positve guys is if you're engaging in it you accept the risk and don't care.Which really is the truth.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 10, 2017 04:14 PM (lKyWE)

356 ty kraken

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2017 04:14 PM (FKrah)

357 I am not happy with how the "bake me a cake" or "call me xher zhyness" debate is being framed as you are a "homophobic bigot" UNLESS you are protecting "sincere religious beliefs."

I realize that opposing enforced speech on religious grounds is probably the strongest legal justification, but it seems as though the basic, civil liberty of not having to spout someone else's propoganda or beliefs has been lost in the shuffle.

I don't want to bake you a cake or call you "xher" because I don't fucking feel like it. That was good enough for the framers and it should be good enough for us.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at October 10, 2017 04:14 PM (0tN2W)

358 Part of the reason California is doing this crap is because they are such a big economic, political, and population powerhouse that they can affect other states as well. If California has a labeling law, its going to make a lot of businesses just do that in all states because its cheaper than having a different label for one state.

So its them acting to manipulate the rest of the nation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 10, 2017 04:16 PM (39g3+)

359 I don't want to bake you a cake or call you "xher" because I don't fucking feel like it. That was good enough for the framers and it should be good enough for us.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at October 10, 2017 04:14 PM (0tN2W)
---
That's called "right of conscience". It's what Jefferson promoted. And it's what the government should be protecting since the Wall of Separation bait-and-switch swindle.

Posted by: Axeman at October 10, 2017 04:16 PM (2mC6G)

360 >>>41
I don't care that it's HIV, it's still willfully and knowingly exposing someone to a deadly disease. It could be syphilis or the plague or anything else and it should still be a felony.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at October 10, 2017 03:31 PM (mf5HN)

In all fairness to him, he seems to be saying the same thing you're saying there: that "it is unfair to make HIV/AIDS the only communicable disease given such harsh treatment by prosecutors." It looks like he'd be o.k. with expanding the list.

http://tinyurl.com/ydfrxysr

Posted by: m at October 10, 2017 04:16 PM (1Xpas)

361 Hint - when you have a shit ton of armies in Madagascar you are not long for the game.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 04:17 PM (YV+SU)

362 There is absolutely no justification in any possible way for removing the disclosure requirements for donating blood. None. Not a single solitary one. It is sheer lunacy that this was done and the people who did this and who think it is a good thing are horrible human beings.
_______________

The Washington Post story on this CA law says that the old law, which made it a felony to knowingly donate HIV-contaminated blood, was not being enforced.

Also, blood banks are required to test for HIV contamination anyway, so I guess they figured it's better just to rely on the tests rather than relying on the word of people who will probably just lie anyway.

And the reason why CA decided to change the law was because of a report from the Obama White House (big surprise) that said that the laws criminalizing deliberate HIV transmission don't work as intended, and are counter-productive because they cause people who think they may be HIV-infected to not get tested. (Under the previous law, the person had to know their HIV status to get charged).

Also, somebody asked up-thread about how many prosecutions there were under the older law (the one that made knowing HIV transmission a felony). The WaPo article cites a UCLA study that reported 379 HIV-related convictions in CA between 1988 - 2014. Of those, only 7 (less than 2%) involved the deliberate intent to transmit HIV. The other convictions were for HIV-infected people who had solicited sex acts, and it wasn't clear in those cases if any sex had actually occurred, or if the type of sex act that did occur was the type that could transmit HIV.

The article also said that most of the people charged under the old law were either women or minorities (blacks and latinos).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 10, 2017 04:17 PM (BXf9o)

363 I don't want to bake you a cake or call you "xher" because I don't fucking feel like it. That was good enough for the framers and it should be good enough for us.

Yeah, you're right this should be framed in and argued from the perspective of freedom. It has to be for everyone, in all circumstances, not situational.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 10, 2017 04:19 PM (39g3+)

364 What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone
with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to
hemophiliac children?

Some idiot savant who happens to be a state senator in CA said the rationale, if it can be called that, is to "stop treating people with HIV like criminals".

Keep in mind a state senator in CA represents more people than a member of the US House of Representatives - and such is the brainpower commanding such a constituency. Terrifying.

#BuildTheWall - and include Commiefornia on the lee side, please. They can be as crazy as they damn-well please, there is absolutely zero reason the rest of us need to subsidize or support it in any freaking way.

Posted by: DocJ at October 10, 2017 04:22 PM (NYS7S)

365 330 I don't think California has that much extra room in their prison systems to jail people who use the wrong pronoun - - - unless they do early releases for murderers, rapists, drug dealers, etc.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 10, 2017 04:09 PM (7m3t

That is pretty much what is already happening. One of the state ballot measures last year was designed to increase the number of early releases from prison, including some convicted for violent felonies.

Posted by: Sjg at October 10, 2017 04:22 PM (gDSJf)

366 Tobacco, paper and cotton are all biodegradable. Plastic not so much. The beach is like a self cleaning oven as well.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 10, 2017 03:55 PM (YV+SU)

Actually, many plastics are now biodegradable, and also break down from UV in sunlight.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 10, 2017 04:24 PM (O848g)

367 If someone has more insight on the "why" behind this overall push against punishing criminals, let me know...

Major Democratic voting group. See Virginia governor restoring felon voting rights just before the last election.

Posted by: Clearly at October 10, 2017 04:28 PM (CCjnT)

368 What's the penalty for donating sperm to a ficus?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Harvey W at October 10, 2017 04:35 PM (AdLC7)

369 293) You're not from around here are you?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at October 10, 2017 04:39 PM (nWc4E)

370 See its about death. They are really in to it. Cause they find life so empty.

Posted by: Simplemind at October 10, 2017 04:41 PM (WM5QF)

371 Someone hit shoot Gov Brown and make sure he gets nothing but HIV infected blood. He has family? Shoot the family, let them get this AIDS blood effing first

Eff this guy. Ban me if you must.

Posted by: Slapp at October 10, 2017 04:51 PM (Ke6mu)

372 Test

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at October 10, 2017 04:55 PM (fo8C+)

373 Shortly after Kate Steinle was murdered in San Francisco, Bill O'Reilly sent Jesse Watters to San Francisco City Hall to try to interview the Mayor and each member of the Board of Supervisors.

One of the supervisors was Scott Wiener, who adamantly refused to speak to Watters because Fox News was, in his view, not a legitimate news organization.

That's the same Scott Wiener who is now a State Senator, who was the prime sponsor of this HIV law.

Posted by: mercenary13 at October 10, 2017 05:39 PM (FHFVw)

374 Send all of that blood to Syria, and Iraq, and Niger. Or is that racist, just because I don't want it in my Midwestern hospital?

Posted by: goon at October 10, 2017 07:13 PM (EaQ6/)

375 "What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children?"

They vote for, and contribute money to the Democrat Party, so they can literally get away with murder.

Posted by: Rufus at October 11, 2017 08:24 AM (cYWKd)

376 *What possible reason could there be to reduce the penalties for someone with HIV donating blood -- which is as infectious as it gets -- to hemophiliac children? *

Because there is an HIV prevention drug, aka Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP), called Truvada. It's my understanding that the makers of the drug are behind the legislation. I.E., if no one has to tell you that they are HIV positive, then you HAVE to take Truvada in order to protect yourself. Everyone in California is going to realize that they better be taking Truvada, just to be safe. Maybe everyone in the U.S. This legislation is a huge huge benefit for the drug manufacturer. You might want to consider buying stock in their company.

Posted by: Cathy at October 11, 2017 02:10 PM (3j/6R)

Processing 0.04, elapsed 0.0518 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0211 seconds, 385 records returned.
Page size 191 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.8 beta.