Uh-Oh: CEO of the Dish Network Says That It's No Longer Unthinkable to Simply Drop ESPN from Cable Networks
Update: Thread Has Become Cord-Cutting Advice/Recommendations/Q&A

Before getting to that, let me post this fairly minor item that doesn't deserve a full post, from Variety yesterday:

Walt Disney’s ESPN, under scrutiny as it works its way through subscriber losses, said it would reorganize the executives who supervise its overall content production.

"Under scrutiny" from its corporate parent as it loses more and more subscribers, and "reorganizing." Not great words for a business.

Now, as you almost certainly know, anyone with cable is forced to pay ESPN something like $7 per month, almost $100 per year, whether they watch it or not, because ESPN is almost always included in the "base" package, and the ESPN fee is extracted from your wallet as part of the "base package" rate.

Cable companies battle ESPN to keep that fee down, while ESPN fights to get it higher. As ESPN continues to lose viewers (and thus their advertising-side revenue), and as their too-costly broadcast rights cost them more and more, ESPN is going to want -- need, really -- to jack up that Involuntary Rent Payment that cable subscribers are forced to pay to really high levels.

Cable companies are making noise that no, it's not unthinkable any longer that we would simply drop you.

If that happened, Katie Bar the Door, because that would destroy ESPN's business model.

Now the CEO from Dish Network has a dog in this fight. It is in his interest to talk tough about dropping ESPN entirely, because he wants to signal he has leverage in their negotiations for carrying the network automatically/involuntarily.

If subscribers had to choose to pay for ESPN rather than having it forced upon them, well, ESPN's books would bleed red. I'm not sure they could even survive three years.

So while this is probably just some posturing for negotiation points, it's still great to hear that one cable company (Altice) seems serious about just dumping them, and another company (the Dish Network) is thinking about dumping them as well.



Posted by: Ace at 01:47 PM




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1 a la carte, bitchez!

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 01:49 PM (hcyN/)

2 I shall the cute Corgis

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 01:49 PM (q3DpH)

3 Call the cute Corgis

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 01:49 PM (q3DpH)

4 DISH had no real option.

Caller: I want to drop ESPN

DISH: Sorry sir, we can't do that.

Caller: Then I want to cancel DISH.

DISH: Let's see what we can do for you...

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 01:49 PM (aT+Bx)

5 Mediapocalypse Now!

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 01:49 PM (s5o+q)

6 Oh my...not a good start.

Damn you fatberg HRC

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 01:50 PM (q3DpH)

7 ' a la carte' is French for 'Suck It', right?

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 01:50 PM (hcyN/)

8 lol

Posted by: Fox at September 27, 2017 01:51 PM (DVC2D)

9 Technology now makes it easy enough to simply let consumers choose what channels they want to pay for, regardless of any bundling laws. Decade ago, it was much harder to filter.

I would think a cable company would actively want to have an a la carte as a business model to attract people.

When it's all or nothing,a lot of people choose "nothing" But it you could get a few channels on cable for like $20 a month, there would be fewer cord cutters.

And companies like ESPN and MTV would be wiped out financially.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2017 01:51 PM (lKmt3)

10 I have two cable providers for Internet in my area, Comcast and Consolidated Communications (nee Surewest), which itself grew out of tiny telephone providers that were once exceptions to the Ma Bell Monopoly Phone Company.

I hope Surewest picks this up.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 01:51 PM (ujg0T)

11 a la carte? however shall we survive.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2017 01:52 PM (HtLSE)

12 Well, obviously, CHARLIE ERGEN IS A RACIST!!!

Posted by: ESPN at September 27, 2017 01:52 PM (O5Q3r)

13 Oh please let this happen.

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 01:52 PM (G0vdT)

14 Burn in hell, ESPN.

And take that jackwad Nate Silver with you.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 27, 2017 01:52 PM (9TK8E)

15 Disney/ESPN is playing hardball with Cablevision in the NY metro area.

There is a big banner on the subscriber website that rips them for being greedy and unrealistic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2017 01:53 PM (wYseH)

16 It's about fricken time

Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2017 01:53 PM (kD8Fh)

17 DO IT. DO IT NOW. I AM HERE. KILL ME!

Posted by: ESPN at September 27, 2017 01:53 PM (RYASC)

18 Shibumi 4 - yup, that would be me.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 27, 2017 01:53 PM (z4cjb)

19 We're fine, as long as our side product (sports) doesn't shit itself......what?

Posted by: ESPN at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (326rv)

20 All that really needs to happen is that cable companies need to hold the line on their contracts to Disney to remove the contract clause that requires them to put ESPN on their basic tier of service.

Put ESPN in an add-on tier instead of the basic tier and watch with glee how many subscribers it loses.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (s5o+q)

21 The Rooney family, Steelers owners, are trying to contain their self-created PR nightmare. This lame attempt won't git 'er done.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yd84s38f

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (LISuA)

22 That CEO will walk back his remarks after re-education in 3...2....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (BoMuO)

23 Nielsen reportedly claimed that ESPN is losing 10k subscribers/day.

It's a small world after all. And it's getting smaller, you chodes.

Posted by: Zod at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (Bdeb0)

24 a la carte, bitchez!


This!

Posted by: CabaList at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (sMRk9)

25 386 Dish also reported this morning they are letting people out of their NFL season ticket packages. That apparently is b coming a popular thing.

*waives to NFL*

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (6fmef)

26 WILL CALL YOU A RACIST FOR FOOD!

Posted by: Stephen A. Smith at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (O5Q3r)

27
Shibumi 4 - yup, that would be me.
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That would be a lot of people.

DISH had no choice in the matter.

Cable/ satellite is bleeding customers and if they didn't do something like this, it could put them out of business completely.

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (aT+Bx)

28 a la carte, bitchez!

Can I get it a la mode? I don't want to go on the cart.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (u0s1P)

29 Even my college football team's fansite has been infected. On of the writers puts up some quotes from one of the football players criticizing Trump and saying he would side with the NFL players who kneeled or stretched or otherwise disrespected the flag. Then he turned comments off. It's the only article on the website that doesn't allow comments.

Posted by: OCBill at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (df+Zi)

30 It's a small world after all. And it's getting smaller, you chodes.
Posted by: Zod at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (Bdeb0)




Style guide: is that choads (plural)? and is a playful choadz acceptable?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (ujg0T)

31 Dear ESPN and NFL,

I am willing to come back. But, you'll need to do some slobbin' while you are down on that knee. Don't bother standing up, just wave me over when you're ready.

Posted by: One at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (RYASC)

32
Nielsen reportedly claimed that ESPN is losing 10k subscribers/day.
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They will simply increase their "franchise fee." A lot.

Which the cable companies will pass on to the consumers.

And the consumers will... cancel cable.

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (aT+Bx)

33 Die, ESPN, die.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (2/F6f)

34 But...isn't the government the only way to change large organizations? Shouldn't the government tell media companies how to package their product to best fit the customer?

That's what my Critical Race Theory professor told me, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (b0iGi)

35 Eventually, I see all channels just becoming their own paid app on a media player. It's already here for many channels.

Thats when I see a massive downsizing for these media companies, and most cable subscribers only watch like 10 channels.

But there's still tens of millions of people (like my parents) that will just keeping paying their traditional cable bill forever, even if it goes to $300 a month.

Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (lKmt3)

36 This NCAA blowup is likely to hit ESPN as well.

They have made huge amounts of money from marketing the NCAA tournaments. Now there's a possibility that the entire event is going to be discredited and disgraced this year.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (k1TUh)

37 They could truthfully relabel themselves as The Women's Network for SJW's, which might bring in the demo they're targeting. Maybe BLM+?

Just thinking out loud here.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (6fmef)

38 It won't be just the NFL.

Without the zillion dollar payoffs, college ball will dry up mostly, too.

And on down the line.

Soccer. Its what's for dinner.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (jHrzU)

39 Has anyone asked Jemele Hill to comment?

How about Mike and Mike?


bwahahahahahaha

Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (kD8Fh)

40 Worth a peak outside for this...

Posted by: The Schadenboner at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (XkVXQ)

41 29 Even my college football team's fansite has been infected. On of the writers puts up some quotes from one of the football players criticizing Trump and saying he would side with the NFL players who kneeled or stretched or otherwise disrespected the flag. Then he turned comments off. It's the only article on the website that doesn't allow comments.
Posted by: OCBill at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (df+Zi)

=============

"Gamergate was a fluke and will never manifest again ever."
-The Media two years ago

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (b0iGi)

42 This is why cockholsters like Pops should keep their fucking mouths shut. They're parasites living large off people who are forced to pay for shit (ESPN) that they don't even watch.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (m/Gc2)

43 37 They could truthfully relabel themselves as The Women's Network for SJW's, which might bring in the demo they're targeting. Maybe BLM+?

Just thinking out loud here.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (6fmef)




Remember when just the "Lifetime" network filled that gap?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (ujg0T)

44 Even better. Cut the cord entirely.

Broadcast TV here in the exurbs have gone from 4 VHF and 2 UHF Channels to about 30 with the digital broadcasting.

Posted by: rd at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (4dz1m)

45 Refunds from ATnT/DirecTv, even though the season has started, for the $200.+ football ticket.
All you have to do is ask.

Posted by: gNewt at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (IHoII)

46 They don't even have to drop ESPN, they just have to make it ala carte.

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (G0vdT)

47 Good, but it still will not make me want to sign back on their stuff.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (mpXpK)

48 It won't be just the NFL.

Without the zillion dollar payoffs, college ball will dry up mostly, too.

And on down the line.

Soccer. Its what's for dinner.
Posted by: blaster

We're fine. Just look at college basketball....what?

Posted by: ESPN at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (326rv)

49 Die, ESPN, die.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (2/F6f)


I don't want ESPN to die, necessarily.

I do want them to choke down a large, steaming odiferous pile of humble pie, though.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (s5o+q)

50 35 Eventually, I see all channels just becoming their own paid app on a media player. It's already here for many channels.

Thats when I see a massive downsizing for these media companies, and most cable subscribers only watch like 10 channels.

But there's still tens of millions of people (like my parents) that will just keeping paying their traditional cable bill forever, even if it goes to $300 a month.
Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (lKmt3)

==============

The future is a sea of HBO Nows and Netflixes.

Those that don't fit into either (CBS All Access doesn't have enough content to fit either), will fail.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (b0iGi)

51 'It will be a great day when our subscribers get only the channels they want and ESPN has to hold a bake sale to buy a 1 am time slot.'

Posted by: Dish Network Executive Bumper Stickers at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (hcyN/)

52 You know. Aren't all these big media conglomerate leviathan abomination quasi-monopolies crypto-fascists big Democrat donors and supporters?

Blue on blue. Need to stock up on popcorn.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (u0s1P)

53 One way
ESJWPN could climb out of this PR nightmare is to feature Jerry Sandusky on a 30 for 30. He could riff OJ style: "If I Did It"

Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (kD8Fh)

54 22 That CEO will walk back his remarks after re-education in 3...2....

Yep. I expect him to do an Alejandro Villanueva. Sadly, we can expect that any time a badthinker rears his head up anymore.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (ul9CR)

55 pretty cool. how can we make this happen faster to all involved?

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (FKrah)

56
' a la carte' is French for 'Suck It', right?
Posted by: garrett


It goes along with "bring out your dead."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (IqV8l)

57 ESPN is killing sports. I wish somebody would start a website that carried box scores and highlights only. No opinions and no gossip.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 27, 2017 01:58 PM (XFue2)

58 >>Style guide: is that choads (plural)? and is a playful choadz acceptable? Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (ujg0T)

I'm not a purist; if you think 'choads' scans better, suits me (the 'ends with z' thing seems a little too contemporary for me, though).

Posted by: Zod at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (Bdeb0)

59 With every sports league and the college leagues having their own networks, there really is no need for an ESPN.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Tailgate Special! Follies & Fulminations 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (hLRSq)

60 Waiting patiently for the leagues and the NCAA to go to a pay per view model. With an option to stream only the video without imbecile announcers. Then ESPN is completely out of the picture.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (z4cjb)

61

Direct TV already offers packages without ESPN. I have one of those packages.

Posted by: imp at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (XIXZz)

62 I'm assuming they're giving the refund because the alternative to that is accepting the customer's cancellation request.


The bundling model fails when customers say, "Fine, you want me to pay for all that when I don't just watch it, but I HATE to fund it? No deal."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (W+vEI)

63 Can ESPN please hire Colin Cowherd back so he can be there when The Burning begins?

Posted by: Zod at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (Bdeb0)

64 #winning

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (2wRtc)

65 The intentions of Steelers players were to stay out of the business of making political statements by not taking the field. Unfortunately, that was interpreted as a boycott of the anthem - which was never our players' intention.

Unless you want it to be seen as a boycott, then it totally was a boycott.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (BoMuO)

66 hopefully we can soon say soo long to America's great pastimes.

oh dat''s right They say they aren't really American.

Oh well maybe if we changed Everything about America they might climb in our boat with us.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (FKrah)

67 Dish network has to fight these battles since, apparently, they are the lowest cost service provider out there. This isn't the first time we've talked about them having to fight content providers over the costs of their products. Meanwhile, my dumb service provider just keeps jacking up the costs and I keep paying.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (XhN8Z)

68 It's hilarious now when willow actually gets willowed. Her post that realizes she has been willowed is lol.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (N7KlP)

69 Broadcast TV here in the exurbs have gone from 4 VHF and 2 UHF Channels to about 30 with the digital broadcasting.
Posted by: rd at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (4dz1m)

I get about the same with my flatwave antenna. 28 or 30, somewhere in there. And even then I rarely use it. I watch almost everything streaming anymore.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (ul9CR)

70 If the cable/satellite companies were to go to a la carte they might get me back as a customer. Without that, the cable remains cut.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (RD7QR)

71 There's a NFL Sunday Ticket ad right below this post.

Posted by: sinalco at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (yODqO)

72 I hate being lectured to. Hate it.

But forcing me to pay you to lecture me is anathema.

Its like they got this idea from Higher Education.

Posted by: simplemind at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (w7H+Y)

73 Ahhhhh haahaahahahahah!

This is shaping up to be an awesome hump day.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (tbOMB)

74
Nielsen reportedly claimed that ESPN is losing 10k subscribers/day.



It's because police brutallity is killing off ESPN viewers

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (lKyWE)

75 And Curt Schilling laughed.

Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (kD8Fh)

76 And companies like ESPN and MTV would be wiped out financially.
Posted by: Maritime at September 27, 2017 01:51 PM (lKmt3)



MSNBC, Lifetime, Oxygen wiped out? Oh noes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (SRKgf)

77 sling has a package with no espn. i have been espn free for years. never missed the commie suckers of cock.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (KP5rU)

78 I've done a little work, indirectly, for Ergen.

He's one crazy sumbitch, and I see that with respect and admiration.

Altice is also the right company to do this - their US operations are pretty new, they have a lot of young blood, and being disruptive is part of their mission statement.

We need to decapitate ESPN, and then waive the blood-dripping head as an example to other formerly or currently relatively apolitical institutions who are considering submission to the SJW agenda. Pour encourager . . .

Posted by: Holdfast at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (Q6rS8)

79 36 This NCAA blowup is likely to hit ESPN as well.

They have made huge amounts of money from marketing the NCAA tournaments. Now there's a possibility that the entire event is going to be discredited and disgraced this year.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (k1TUh)



CBS is the network connected to the NCAA Basketball tournament.

Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (cAnNx)

80 pixy is very particular about punctuation. Especially in pasted text and IOS 11 quotation marks, apostrophes and hyphens.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (BoMuO)

81 26 WILL CALL YOU A RACIST FOR FOOD!
Posted by: Stephen A. Smith at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (O5Q3r)

LOL!

Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (7HtZB)

82 Down goes ESPN!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (zX878)

83 Jack sock, and no one even buys me a steak to help me deal with the pain of it.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (FKrah)

84 The intentions of Steelers players were to stay out of the business of making political statements by not taking the field. Unfortunately, that was interpreted as a boycott of the anthem - which was never our players' intention.

Unless you want it to be seen as a boycott, then it totally was a boycott.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (BoMuO)


A friend of mine sent me a link to the Steelers web page with Tomlin's excuse-making for staying in the huddle.

I would bet a lot of cash that Tomlin has never heard the phrase "you will be made to care."

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (s5o+q)

85 The future is a sea of HBO Nows and Netflixes.

Those that don't fit into either (CBS All Access doesn't have enough content to fit either), will fail.


And iTunes (or similar). Why pay for the whole channel if you just want one show?

And DVD/Blu-Ray, later, but I guess those are dying in the face of streaming and downloads.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (u0s1P)

86 Ya did it to yourself ESPN.

Schadenfreude Is a rainbow.

Alot of sports packages got cancelled & refunds given.
You reap what you sow NFL.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (q3DpH)

87 That CEO will walk back his remarks after re-education in 3...2....

Yep. I expect him to do an Alejandro Villanueva. Sadly, we can expect that any time a badthinker rears his head up anymore.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?

Poor comparison.

The latter is a single player, at the mercy of the mob, his so-called teammates, and the guy who pays his salary.

The former is a guy trying to not bleed subscribers, who gets screwed over by carrying a channel that was perceived as a poor value BEFORE their alleged primary product decided to devalue ITSELF.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (326rv)

88 >>Direct TV already offers packages without ESPN.


Not Sports Packages, though.

I ONLY want the NHL.
That's it.
It's the only reason I have a TV.

But, I can't get that. I have to have the Sports Package and NHL Package in order to see the max # of games in a season.

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (hcyN/)

89
If cable had any brains and it doesn't it would allow subscribers to select the stations they want. Offer 50, 75, 100 station etc packages but you get to pick which ones you want. If not, the cable industry will die.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (493sH)

90 DirecTV now has a base package that does not include the ESPN channels. I just switched my subscription to that package yesterday. :-)

Posted by: davidingeorgia at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (AxMaN)

91 36 This NCAA blowup is likely to hit ESPN as well.

They have made huge amounts of money from marketing the NCAA tournaments. Now there's a possibility that the entire event is going to be discredited and disgraced this year.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2017 01:56 PM (k1TUh)

You know the usual suspects will cry Racism!!11! over this NCAA investigation.

Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (7HtZB)

92 I hate that ESPN has overpaid to get a couple of sporting events I want to watch. A few Tennis and golf major tournaments. I now wait until they are repeated later in the day on the Tennis or Golf channel.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (N7KlP)

93 I put a DISH on my apartment roof near Lake Pontchartrain almost 30 years ago, to avoid cable. I've moved but have had DISH ever since. My cheap $39/mo package has no ESPN, has Fox news, RFD, some science and hunting stuff ... works for me.

They could start offering conservative versus commie packages ... kill the commies.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (yKAUL)

94 B-b-but what would people do without a special on Obama's March Madness picks?

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 27, 2017 02:03 PM (nBr1j)

95 There's a NFL Sunday Ticket ad right below this post.
Posted by: sinalco at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (yODqO)


Feel free to click that sucker and send some of the NFL's money to Ace.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:03 PM (s5o+q)

96
There's a NFL Sunday Ticket ad right below this post.
Posted by: sinalco at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (yODqO)



It'll be gone as sone as Sonobi notices it.Sonobi is a jealous god

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:03 PM (lKyWE)

97 65 The intentions of Steelers players were to stay out of the business of making political statements by not taking the field. Unfortunately, that was interpreted as a boycott of the anthem - which was never our players' intention.

Unless you want it to be seen as a boycott, then it totally was a boycott.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:00 PM (BoMuO)



Standing for the flag with your hand over your heart is how you avoid making a political statement. Jackasses.

Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2017 02:03 PM (cAnNx)

98 The lovely Trish Regan just said in her opening lines: "We have to stop this redistribution of wealth, and give money back to the hard working people of this country who earned it to begin with."

"Why do we want to penalize prosperity? Why do we want to stick it to those who want to work a little harder?"

I'm even more in love with her.


Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:04 PM (8iiMU)

99 21 The Rooney family, Steelers owners, are trying to contain their self-created PR nightmare. This lame attempt won't git 'er done.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yd84s38f
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 27, 2017 01:54 PM (LISuA)



Too late. You already shit the bed.

“I want to reach out to you, the members of Steelers Nation, based on what I believe is a misperception about our players’ intentions in not taking the field for the National Anthem in Chicago,” he said. “ The intentions of Steelers players were to stay out of the business of making political statements by not taking the field. Unfortunately, that was interpreted as a boycott of the anthem – which was never our players’ intention.”

Wow, that was close. I almost stepped in that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:04 PM (SRKgf)

100 I hate the lectures that blame me for things I wasn't even alive for.

if we do that we really should go to the way back machine and blame every nationality ,ethnicity for all the worlds sins.

and here I thought They weren't religious, making the crimes be vitsited on their children to the hundredth generation.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:04 PM (FKrah)

101 33 Die, ESPN, die.

The ESPN the?

Posted by: Sideshow Bob at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (sGtp+)

102 I wish they would make ALL channels ala carte.

We don't watch the Black TV channels, or MTV, or the Spanish language channels, either.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (uLuPn)

103 77 sling has a package with no espn. i have been espn free for years. never missed the commie suckers of cock.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (KP5rU)

I was looking into that. Does this go right onto your TV and want kind of hardware do you need?

Had to search for the right option because Mrs. WisRich must have one channel or there will be no domestic tranquility: Hallmark

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (G0vdT)

104 MSNBC, Lifetime, Oxygen wiped out? Oh noes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:01 PM (SRKgf)
========

I would like to see Oxygen take its dying breaths as well. Of course, only to serve as revenge against that fat pig for foisting BHO onto this nation.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (vg8iE)

105 I realized almost 4 years ago that I was paying $120 per month to DirecTV and I mostly just flipped through channels out of boredom. Went to Netflix/ Amazon prime and an antenna for the rare times I want local news. $10 for netflix, and I had Amazon prime anyway.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (BoMuO)

106 Broadcast TV, I get over 50 channels, at least 10, 15 if you add Christian broadcasting, in English. Three channels are movie plus one sci-fi. Tons of old, old well made 30 minute and 1 hr shows.

I do miss the opportunity to yell at FOX.

Posted by: gNewt at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (IHoII)

107
Well it seems a lot of nfl people are doing a little backtracking, as in we shouldn't have done it or we said our peace, but not anymore, or people think we dislike the military, thats not it or our organization respects the USA..... blah blah blah you complete me. (Batman laugh)

Anyway if you really wanted to watch espn and get called a racist everyday, there are plenty of ways to watch it without paying.



Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (r+sAi)

108 Sad to say, but Disney just bought a majority share of MLB's streaming platform (known as "At Bat") from MLB Advanced Media, the internet arm of Major League Baseball.

I love baseball and use At Bat a lot (even when I'm watching games, for stats and radio feeds).

But Disney will destroy it, just like they've torched every other thing they buy.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (LISuA)

109 29 Even my college football team's fansite has been infected. On of the writers puts up some quotes from one of the football players criticizing Trump and saying he would side with the NFL players who kneeled or stretched or otherwise disrespected the flag. Then he turned comments off. It's the only article on the website that doesn't allow comments.

Posted by: OCBill at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (df+Zi)


Go to all the other articles on the site that do allow comments and comment about the article that doesn't allow comments.

Posted by: Tami at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (Enq6K)

110 and I don't watch silly guy flicks.

so we should be able to chose/pay for what we actually are interested in.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (FKrah)

111 If he keeps up his current pace in the Culture War, Trump may actually get 'racism' defined as "the belief in the inherent, genetic superiority of one race over another".

As opposed to it's current definition, to wit, " whatever we say it is , white boy."

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (2wRtc)

112 We need to decapitate , and then waive the blood-dripping head as an example
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hey that totally did not work for me

Posted by: kathy griffin at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (YBeb0)

113 29 Even my college football team's fansite has been infected. On of the writers puts up some quotes from one of the football players criticizing Trump and saying he would side with the NFL players who kneeled or stretched or otherwise disrespected the flag. Then he turned comments off. It's the only article on the website that doesn't allow comments.
Posted by: OCBill at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (df+Zi)
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Free speech!!!!!
Free speech!!!!
All this anthem-dissing is about free speech!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (0jtPF)

114 >>>Without the zillion dollar payoffs, college ball will dry up mostly, too.


I don't think so. College ball has pretty low costs for players (theoretically zero, though we know that's not quite true).

Sure, the NCAA money pays coaches top dollar and pays for lots of good equipment and doctors, but it's not like college football didn't exist before the big tv money.

I'm not sure where all that NCAA money goes -- I imagine most of it goes to subsidize OTHER college sports besides football and baseball.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (8rNrN)

115 Hahahaha-- the market is fracturing and the customer is drawing blood.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (oVJmc)

116 In a related story, Taya Kyle has a few things to say to the NFL

http://tinyurl.com/y8mahvg7

Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (7HtZB)

117 I have Verizon Fios, but I would seriously consider Dish if they did that. For what Americans pay for cable, every consumer should have the opportunity to pick and choose their stations.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (VWp7G)

118 As anyone mentioned the nfl can eat a bag of dicks yet? Cuz the nfl can eat a bag of dicks. I'd drop them in a heartbeat.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (jsWA8)

119 I was looking into that. Does this go right onto your TV and want kind of hardware do you need?

Had to search for the right option because Mrs. WisRich must have one channel or there will be no domestic tranquility: Hallmark


Roku, Apple Tv, Google play, etc needed with high speed internet superhighway.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (BoMuO)

120 The intentions of Steelers players were to stay out of the business of
making political statements by not taking the field. Unfortunately, that
was interpreted as a boycott of the anthem - which was never our
players' intention.

Also a violation of NFL rules from what I read. Supposedly, your team should be out there for the anthem.
Let us know how much Goodell fines you for that, Artie. And if the spinning of your old man in his grave stops getting louder.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (O5Q3r)

121 93 My cheap $39/mo package has no ESPN, has Fox news, RFD ...

Big Joe Polka or Molly B?

It's the new longbow or crossbow.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (sGtp+)

122 >>>In a related story, Taya Kyle has a few things to say to the NFL

Crazy, stupid hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (VWp7G)

123 HODOR !

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (QC/4S)

124 so I read BLM ? Antifa was also telling people to not do football,
what was their reason?

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (FKrah)

125 We don't watch the Black TV channels, or MTV, or the Spanish language channels, either.
Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (uLuPn)

Not even for the Latina weather babes?

Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (7HtZB)

126 I do miss the opportunity to yell at FOX.
Posted by: gNewt at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (IHoII)
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You could always watch their clips on Youtube and yell at them that way. It would be just as effective!

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (UoSKV)

127 >>>Monday night NFL ratings were UP 3% from last year
Ace has yet to correct

why would I correct something I didn't report on either way? I wrote about SUNDAY's ratings, when they were in. I wrote on MONDAY, before the Monday Night game even happened.

Son, you need to take that dick out of your mouth and talk sense, and without a dick in your mouth.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (8rNrN)

128 I wish they would make ALL channels ala carte.

We don't watch the Black TV channels, or MTV, or the Spanish language channels, either.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:05 PM (uLuPn)


Exactly. 15 Spanish language channels or Logo or Vice or the other ones I'll never watch, I want gone. I emailed Comcast about that a month ago and they said they couldn't do that. I responded Wrong Answer, you can do what you want but choose not to so you'll lose my business.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (493sH)

129 Roku, Apple Tv, Google play, etc needed with high speed internet superhighway.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (BoMuO)

Thanks

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (G0vdT)

130 >>Standing for the flag with your hand over your heart is how you avoid making a political statement. Jackasses.


Exactly. But they couldn't give the win to Trump AND risk drawing ire from the kneelers.

They tried to opt out. Guess what? The Left doesn't allow you to opt out. Part of their process is to claim that the normal/typical thing is now "hate", so it is no longer an acceptable choice. Cute trick. Sucks that this time you got snagged, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 02:08 PM (W+vEI)

131 even if uyou pay for espn don't you have to pay more to actually see many games?

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (FKrah)

132 the word is Indic, choda. Choad is the Anglicisation.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (cYFwV)

133 ESPN is too big to fail! We need the government to step in and require any content provider to pay ESPN $100/year per customer whether they provide ESPN or not. We can not let this national treasure disappear! Call your congressman today!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (BoMuO)

134 What is propping up ESPN at this point? Monday Night Football? How much longer is that going to last now that the NFL is committing suicide by Trump?

Posted by: Ken in NH at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (gDMFf)

135 60 Waiting patiently for the leagues and the NCAA to go to a pay per view model. With an option to stream only the video without imbecile announcers. Then ESPN is completely out of the picture.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (z4cjb)



MLB.TV (please, God, don't let MLB go in for kneeling shit) gives the option of various audio feeds, including the home and away radio announcers, who are generally better than the video feed announcers. In any case, it's a nice option to have.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (SRKgf)

136 113 PARADISE AWAITS YOU IN MY CRAWLSPACE

I love "MUMRbot: Replace And Improve!" like a family member.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (HtLSE)

137 What do I get from ESPN? I don't watch any of their jocksniffing analysis/news shows. No MNF because the NFL can get stuffed. No Sunday-night MLB any more because the announcers can't shut up. NCAA football? Lots of alternatives on other channels. Don't watch basketball, so that's out.

So, why should I subscribe?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (BWL+E)

138 >>> I have Verizon Fios, but I would seriously consider Dish if they did that. For what Americans pay for cable, every consumer should have the opportunity to pick and choose their stations.

I believe Sling allows you to not get ESPN. I was looking into this when people were encouraging me to cord-cut, and Sling, I think, did not have ESPN as part of their base package.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (8rNrN)

139 You made a political statement by staying in the locker room besides it being against the bargaining agreement you entered into.

Going onto the field and standing there while the anthem is played like what has occurred for over 30 years is the non political action.

Pissing on me and telling me it's raining is not very smart.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:10 PM (N7KlP)

140 How much of the Monday night ratings bump was caused by people tuning into the beginning, then turning the channel?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 27, 2017 02:10 PM (jsWA8)

141 sure-sure.

the America pastime was ytuned into a liberal left adovocate. and they were prospering while helping dessimate a cohesive undivided society .

you know that we pretty much have live in for several decades

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:10 PM (FKrah)

142 >>I believe Sling allows you to not get ESPN. I was looking into this when people were encouraging me to cord-cut, and Sling, I think, did not have ESPN as part of their base package.


Meanwhile, in rural America...

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 02:10 PM (hcyN/)

143 Even my college football team's fansite has been infected. On of the writers puts up some quotes from one of the football players criticizing Trump and saying he would side with the NFL players who kneeled or stretched or otherwise disrespected the flag. Then he turned comments off. It's the only article on the website that doesn't allow comments.
Posted by: OCBill at September 27, 2017 01:55 PM (df+Zi)
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Free speech!!!!!
Free speech!!!!
All this anthem-dissing is about free speech!!!!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (0jtPF)


I own and run a discussion board for my alma mater's sports teams. I have on occasion had to school ignorant people on what exactly the First Amendment does and doesn't cover, with regards to what gets posted on my board. (Basically: "My board. My rules. Don't like it, go create your own board.") They haven't usually liked what I had to say.

That having been said, one of the rules of the board is "no politics." The rule gets bent on occasion but for the most part, most people appreciate the rule and its intent.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:10 PM (s5o+q)

144 I love "MUMRbot: Replace And Improve!" like a family member.
===

Was that puppy dead when you found it, John Ryan?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:11 PM (2wRtc)

145 141 You made a political statement by staying in the locker room besides it being against the bargaining agreement you entered into.

Going onto the field and standing there while the anthem is played like what has occurred for over 30 years is the non political action.

Pissing on me and telling me it's raining is not very smart.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:10 PM (N7KlP)

You left out one key part.

"Pissing on me and telling me it's raining is not very smart. SO PISS ON YOU".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2017 02:11 PM (jxbfJ)

146 >>>I believe Sling allows you to not get ESPN. I was looking into this when people were encouraging me to cord-cut, and Sling, I think, did not have ESPN as part of their base package.

Nice.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:11 PM (VWp7G)

147 ESPN is too big to fail! We need the government to
step in and require any content provider to pay ESPN $100/year per
customer whether they provide ESPN or not. We can not let this national
treasure disappear! Call your congressman today!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (BoMuO)

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Go straight to the top. Contact Paul Ryan. Really. Just do it!

Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2017 02:11 PM (SsblQ)

148 117 In a related story, Taya Kyle has a few things to say to the NFL

http://tinyurl.com/y8mahvg7

Posted by: josephistan at September 27, 2017 02:07 PM (7HtZB)
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fantastic read

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 27, 2017 02:11 PM (LISuA)

149 Fuck em

Posted by: ala carte is my oyster at September 27, 2017 02:11 PM (gepmM)

150
Monday night NFL ratings were UP 3% from last year Ace has yet to correct


Or sales are down Tuesday thru Sunday but our Monday sales are good.Heck of a business model

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (lKyWE)

151 I would think that the technology exists for true metered service where you only pay for the shows you actually watch, so then you can partake of a given game on ESPN without paying for all the jibber-jabber.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (QQ+il)

152 I believe Sling allows you to not get ESPN. I was looking into this when people were encouraging me to cord-cut, and Sling, I think, did not have ESPN as part of their base package.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (8rNrN)


That is correct.

And Sling is owned by Dish. ESPN *knows* that Charlie Ergen isn't kidding because he's doing it with Sling TV.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (s5o+q)

153 Somebody or bodies with a lot of money need to be waiting in the wings to launch a new version of ESPN minus all the lefty dreck.

They proved the demand for the product, and then got high on their own success. But the demand is there, for sure.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (yL25O)

154 Before I had to stop working I was with Echostar the tech side of Dish network. (now a separate company).
Dish and Sling TV know exactly what and when people are watching. Charlie has no love for any content provider. Watch what Dish and sling TV do going forward. This guy is one to watch.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (0OmEj)

155 ESPN has become MTV. It has more dumbass talking head shows than it does actual sports. Now that they're up to ESPN 8: The Ocho, we can see The World Series of Val-U-Rite.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (VWp7G)

156 Sure, the NCAA money pays coaches top dollar and pays for lots of good equipment and doctors, but it's not like college football didn't exist before the big tv money.

Iowahawk's take on this was that the whole shebang amounted to nearly an illegal wage-fixing scheme, and this latest fuckery was just a facet of the general fuckery and artificiality. Can't say he's wrong.

He had the idea that maybe a player could be paid, held in escrow until such time as they graduated - with school and player in forfeit if they flunked out. Or something like that.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (HtLSE)

157 @23 / Zod, if ESPn is losing 10k subscribers a day, that means cable companies are losing that many per day. Disney and Time Warner may be able to absorb those kinds of losses (for awhile) because the parent companies are down with the cause, but at some point the cable providers won't be able to.

Posted by: sunny-dee at September 27, 2017 02:13 PM (QAOZh)

158 ESPN is owned by Disney, something to think about when you go and spend money to see frozen or whatever.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 02:13 PM (QC/4S)

159 30 Style guide: is that choads (plural)? and is a playful choadz acceptable?

choadzz in Utah.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 27, 2017 02:13 PM (sGtp+)

160 >>then you can partake of a given game on ESPN without paying for all the jibber-jabber.


Which begs the question :

Why isn't Mr. T doing play by play?

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 02:13 PM (hcyN/)

161 We have just looked at the numbers and when adjusted for inflation since 1900, windspeed, humidity and the angle of the Sun in angola, plus processor parallax, we have found that ratings for Sunday and Monday football were the highest ever recorded! In fact, MNF eclipsed even the superbowl with 99.5% of fans surveyed saying the kneeling players were very brave and made them more likely to go out and buy NFL merchandise.

Posted by: The Nielsen Corporation at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (BoMuO)

162
How much of the Monday night ratings bump was caused by people tuning into the beginning, then turning the channel?
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 27, 2017 02:10 PM (jsWA


I'll take what is most of it for 500 Alex

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (lKyWE)

163 Ace has a TV?

Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (8aWIY)

164 I don't even know what sling is, but recently chatted with the DISH guy and he said I was grandfathered in ... my DVR is over 10 years old ... but my total bill is $39, no ESPN. The new setups have more DVR capacity, so just that is maybe $8/mo more than mine.

But still, DISH has a decent plan without ESPN. I see even Beck's channel popped back up on mine ... used to be $5 ... maybe it was just a trial thing like they do with other pay channels at times.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (yKAUL)

165 My cheap $39/mo package has no ESPN, has Fox news, RFD ...

Big Joe Polka or Molly B?




Big Joe hands down.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (lwpdV)

166 "Die, ESPN, die."

No one who speaks German could be bad?

Posted by: Chris M at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (eAZVt)

167 @158, or -- and I'm just throwing this out there -- colleges should be for education and only have amateur athletics. If they want to be a kind of bush league for the pros, then set it up as an athletics league and drop the pretense of it being associated with college or education.

Posted by: sunny-dee at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (QAOZh)

168 It should all be ala carte. All of it. Streaming is nice but too often still relies on the old cable model.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (PFy0L)

169 If he keeps up his current pace in the Culture War, Trump may actually get 'racism' defined as "the belief in the inherent, genetic superiority of one race over another".


Does that include superiority in athletics?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (SRKgf)

170 Those kneeling football players could be my sons.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (q3DpH)

171 Hey, Look! I used a sock.
*takes sock off.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (BoMuO)

172 >>Ace has a TV?


Hopefully it's not on a shelf.

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (hcyN/)

173 Does anyone have Sling?

IF so, can you answer some questions:

1, does it carry local terrestrial tv broadcasts? I might want to occasionally tune into local news, especially during weather events. Sling says it carries *live local sports* broadcast locally, but doesn't say if it shows the local broadcasters generally, throughout the day.

2, given that it's over the internet, is it often glitchy or laggy or pixelated?


Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (8rNrN)

174 130; i have the standard uverse internet connection. not dsl. i stream everything, no issues.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (KP5rU)

175 >>>Ace has a TV?

He irons his clothes on it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (VWp7G)

176
Ace has a TV?
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (8aWIY)



Only because he wanted to build a shelf to put it on.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (lKyWE)

177 And Sling is owned by Dish. ESPN *knows* that Charlie Ergen isn't kidding because he's doing it with Sling TV.
Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (s5o+q)


Sling rolls ESPN into their Orange package. We only have the orange package for Disney Jr. (I'm sure Disney/ABC knows this, so they'll force Dish to keep most of their channels together.)

Eventually though, our daughter will grow up of the Disney Jr. phase (though the son arriving in march will enter it at that point) and I'll drop it though.
And we're an edge case in the sense that we have kids in that age range. I probably wouldn't let my kid watch diddly shit on the other Disney Channels, so basically anyone who's kids are over 5 can drop ESPN like a hot potato and lose...nothing.
(Seriously the only thing in Sling orange NOT in Sling Blue is ESPN.)

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (dzmBR)

178 I got a stiffy.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (XMCo0)

179 Dish and Sling TV know exactly what and when people
are watching. Charlie has no love for any content provider. Watch what
Dish and sling TV do going forward. This guy is one to watch.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (0OmEj)

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Comcast on the other hand mind have love for a certain content provider.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (SsblQ)

180 Somebody or bodies with a lot of money need to be waiting in the wings to launch a new version of ESPN minus all the lefty dreck.

They proved the demand for the product, and then got high on their own success. But the demand is there, for sure.
Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (yL25O)


That's kinda sorta Fox Sports 1/2/FSN regional networks, mainly.

And, CBS-SN and NBCSN which, as far as I know, absolutely nobody watches.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (s5o+q)

181 MLB.TV (please, God, don't let MLB go in for kneeling shit) gives the option of various audio feeds, including the home and away radio announcers, who are generally better than the video feed announcers. In any case, it's a nice option to have.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:09 PM (SRKgf)

...

I have transitioned to watching e-sports (don't judge, it's lit) but am tempted to start watching baseball again, or hockey.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (yL25O)

182 Those kneeling football players could be my sons my boyfriends.
Posted by: Barack Obama

necessary correction

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (QC/4S)

183 >>>Hopefully it's not on a shelf.


One of these days I'll finish those shelves.

(This is not, unfortunately, a joke.)

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (8rNrN)

184 My cheap $39/mo package has no ESPN, has Fox news, RFD, some science and hunting stuff ... works for me.




Mayberry RFD? I could never really get into that show

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:16 PM (493sH)

185 181 mind=might

???

Posted by: RioBravo at September 27, 2017 02:16 PM (SsblQ)

186 I have Dish Network, and I would love a pure a la carte option.

Posted by: Advo at September 27, 2017 02:16 PM (Ms4Um)

187 That's great. I'm still cutting the cord in December.

Posted by: The Chubble at September 27, 2017 02:16 PM (mcI77)

188
>>>Ace has a TV?

I hear it's on a shelf.

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (aT+Bx)

189 If he keeps up his current pace in the Culture War, Trump may actually get 'racism' defined as "the belief in the inherent, genetic superiority of one race over another".

As opposed to it's current definition, to wit, " whatever we say it is , white boy."


Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (2wRtc)


It is amazing how he does that, convinces them to put on the suicide vest and trigger it in their own safe house.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Tailgate Special! Follies & Fulminations 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (hLRSq)

190
I am pretty satisfied with the amazon firestick. If you are reading this you probably have internet anyway.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (r+sAi)

191 Why isn't Mr. T doing play by play?


I pity the fool that lets the wide receiver get behind him.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (QQ+il)

192 180 I got a stiffy.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (XMCo0)


"First thing Anthony Weiner texted to the 15 yr old" for $600 Alex.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (jxbfJ)

193 Tried to cut and paste 2 sentences but won't work.

Some talking heads can't understand the resentment re: NFL. Decided they must live in a bubble, b/c it's real. Flabbergasted.

Aka: We have learned absolutely nothing since 2016.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (q3DpH)

194 >>>MLB.TV (please, God, don't let MLB go in for kneeling shit) gives the option of various audio feeds

I think one or maybe two MLB players knelt for the anthem this past week. Still, it's not many, and also, I think baseball will tend to enforce the rules harder.

Baseball is like DC Comics-- they're number two, and they see a possible opening to become number one again. So I think they'll probably not permit this shit.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (8rNrN)

195 I'm not one of those who believe that Trump is playing high-level chess, but man, he's gonna win this NFL thing.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (7uYFy)

196 Ace, forget shelves. Get a hammer and do built-ins.

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (QC/4S)

197 Yeah the NFL is panicking because ratings are up. Do they have your head in a rat cage?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (N7KlP)

198 How much of the Monday night ratings bump was caused by people tuning into the beginning, then turning the channel?

Wasn't there a debate last year at the same time?

I'd like to see the last five or ten years' data, see what those trends and if they're being bucked or what.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (u0s1P)

199 One of these days I'll finish those shelves.

(This is not, unfortunately, a joke.)
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:15 PM (8rNrN)
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You'll have to wait until we mine all the funny out of them.

Although yeah, that may have already happened.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (UoSKV)

200 Ace, I have Sling. It works well, considering - the main issues I have with it are the user interface (on Apple TV it's just...crappy) and the connection. I have a gigabit pipe and Sling still drops inexplicably and regularly. I'll be stuck looking at a rotating circle for five minutes before it comes back on.



Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (PFy0L)

201 Time to say it, again.

WINNING!

What is the media's approval rating?

Can the players and/or the League ever claim they have ended the imaginary injustice by police? No, they can't. It was all a lie from the beginning.

No. Way. Out.

Posted by: Meremortal, lateral this at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (3myMJ)

202 Does that include superiority in athletics?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (SRKgf)

...

Also, how long until the winter olympics are problematic?


And swimming.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (yL25O)

203 I wouldn't mind if all televised sports events were pay-per-view. (Sure, you could also have packages for sports, like MLB.tv, whatever.)
But you could also have PPV for someone who just wants to see a particular game or playoff series or wants to follow a particular team.

We get most of the UVA baseball games on ESPN3 through Comcast. But why do we have to buy ALL of Comcast/ESPN to do that? Why can't we just pay for a UVA baseball package or at least a college baseball package?

Or maybe some guy in Arkansas wants to see his alma mater Bumfuck State play his wife's alma mater Goofus Polytech. They ought to be able to stream that for a few bucks.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (0jtPF)

204 People always visit my home in the Berkshires and ask how I keep my 20 acres so manicured." I ONLY WATCH GOLF" Fuck the rest of the BS

Posted by: Done with animals at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (gepmM)

205 175; ace, i use an ota antenna. over 35 channels free. i have no idea if sling does local stuff, never checked. pixelation is never an issue. all content is usually in 1080 dpi. better than any cable shit i've seen.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (KP5rU)

206 Lyin' Ryan is unveiling the new tax plan.

Blah, blah, blah......

He hasn't really said anything yet.




Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (8iiMU)

207 off howdy doody sock

Posted by: Under Fire at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (mcI77)

208 I'm not one of those who believe that Trump is playing high-level chess, but man, he's gonna win this NFL thing.

=======
Its not high level chess. He is speaking truth.

The cowards that normally represent us do not do that.

Posted by: simplemind at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (m2/78)

209 Deplorable Jay -

Just checked pricing. Looks like NHL has something similar. Ok, once NCAA football is done, it's cutting time.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (z4cjb)

210 They tried to opt out. Guess what? The Left doesn't allow you to opt out. Part of their process is to claim that the normal/typical thing is now "hate", so it is no longer an acceptable choice. Cute trick. Sucks that this time you got snagged, eh?

^^ this is what so many idiots don't understand

Posted by: uncle joey b at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (RzUqr)

211 172 Those kneeling football players could be my sons.
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 27, 2017 02:14 PM (q3DpH)



If they knelt on both knees they could be your intimate friends.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (SRKgf)

212 Aka: We have learned absolutely nothing since 2016.
--

Good to hear.

Add in all the Hillary hype and... that's how you get 4 more years of Trump.

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (aT+Bx)

213 >>159 @23 / Zod, if ESPn is losing 10k subscribers a day, that means cable companies are losing that many per day. Disney and Time Warner may be able to absorb those kinds of losses (for awhile) because the parent companies are down with the cause, but at some point the cable providers won't be able to. Posted by: sunny-dee at September 27, 2017 02:13 PM (QAOZh)

From your lips to Crom's ear.

Posted by: Zod at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (Bdeb0)

214 Is it time for another Technology of Cord Cutting thread? I need a DVR before I can leave cable because Mrs928 has to have her stories recorded. At least they are on OTATV.

Recommendations are most welcome.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2017 02:19 PM (QQ+il)

215
My God, the Wikipedia page on the Virginia-class sub USS Illinois is more about Michelle Obama than it is about the boat.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (BWL+E)

216 McTurtle is up now.
Good grief I want to punch him in the face out of principle...

Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (8iiMU)

217 >>>I think one or maybe two MLB players knelt for the anthem this past week. Still, it's not many, and also, I think baseball will tend to enforce the rules harder.

Maxwell, catcher for Oakland. White guy. Kneeled at least two games now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (VWp7G)

218 I'd like to see the last five or ten years' data, see what those trends and if they're being bucked or what.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (u0s1P)

Don't bother. This week's ratings are what matters.
ADUs have already kicked in at NBC and CBS.

Advertising Deficiency Units. Requires rebates of some ad dollars to sponsors due to lower ratings.

No. Way. Out.

Posted by: Meremortal, lateral this at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (3myMJ)

219 Anyone have an opinion on the Amazon Fuckstick?

Posted by: Chris M at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (eAZVt)

220


If they knelt on both knees they could be your intimate friends.
--

And completely random intimate strangers as well!

Posted by: Preezy for Life Obama at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (aT+Bx)

221 does it carry local terrestrial tv broadcasts? I might want to occasionally tune into local news, especially during weather events. Sling says it carries *live local sports* broadcast locally, but doesn't say if it shows the local broadcasters generally, throughout the day.


I have a digital antenna. Plastic box that sits next to the tv, brings in great signals when I NEED to see local tv. I have a 4 year old roku box, and I have very few problems with lag/ pixels. I don't have sling, but saw it at a friend's house. Seemed to do ok.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (BoMuO)

222 ESPN has become MTV. It has more dumbass talking head shows than it does actual sports. Now that they're up to ESPN 8: The Ocho, we can see The World Series of Val-U-Rite.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:12 PM (VWp7G)


Cotton McKnight and Pepper Brooks are the only reason to watch The Ocho.

(They even had guest roles in a Golden Scalp Weasel.)

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Tailgate Special! Follies & Fulminations 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (hLRSq)

223 Yeah the NFL is panicking because ratings are up. Do they have your head in a rat cage?
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (N7KlP)

200 How much of the Monday night ratings bump was caused by people tuning into the beginning, then turning the channel?

Wasn't there a debate last year at the same time?

I'd like to see the last five or ten years' data, see what those trends and if they're being bucked or what.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (u0s1P)


Drudge has a story about NFL ratings being down 11% so far over 2016.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (s5o+q)

224 184 Those kneeling football players could be my sons or my boyfriends.
Posted by: Barack Obama




Those kneeling football players could be praying like George Clooney does.

Posted by: Matt Damon at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (q3DpH)

225 Lyin' Ryan is unveiling the new tax plan.
Blah, blah, blah.....
==
Now McConnell.

pfeh.

Shut up and cut my taxes, Congresswhores.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:21 PM (2wRtc)

226 Yes, I cannot stand Dennis Kuchinich's wife.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 27, 2017 02:21 PM (VWp7G)

227 Advertising Deficiency Units. Requires rebates of some ad dollars to sponsors due to lower ratings.



No. Way. Out.
---

To quote Paris Hilton... "that's hawt."

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 02:21 PM (aT+Bx)

228 Anyone have an opinion on the Amazon Fuckstick?

Posted by: Chris M at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (eAZVt)




It makes Jeff Bezos richer

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:21 PM (493sH)

229 218 McTurtle is up now.
Good grief I want to punch him in the face out of principle...

Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (8iiMU)


You'll have to stand in line.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 27, 2017 02:22 PM (mcI77)

230 221 Anyone have an opinion on the Amazon Fuckstick?

Posted by: Chris M at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (eAZVt)



Your Amazon Dildo probably needs new batteries.

Posted by: Shep Smith at September 27, 2017 02:22 PM (q3DpH)

231
Mayberry RFD? I could never really get into that show
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:16 PM (493sH)



I hear you me neither .I was unfairly targeted by Mayberry Police

Posted by: Otis Campbell at September 27, 2017 02:22 PM (lKyWE)

232 "Big Joe Polka or Molly B?

Big Joe hands down.

Posted by: rickb223

lol ... I actaully rarely watch it but support the concept. They have so farm guys on their that can be interesting, ... I tried to watch Hee-Haw the other day and it was embarrassing ... man they really overdid the "rural people are idiots" thing. sheesh Even the less well spoken rural people I know can do garden/livestock or mechanical things I can't do ... friggin Hollywood.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:22 PM (yKAUL)

233 Orrin "Shut Your" Hatch up now.

They are fvcking babbling.
Nothing concrete at all.


Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (8iiMU)

234 witchdoktor,

but does it show local broadcasts day-round?

>>>Ace, forget shelves. Get a hammer and do built-ins.

Would love that. But given that I'm struggling with f***ing Ikea shelves, I think built-ins will have to wait.

>>>ace, i use an ota antenna. over 35 channels free. i have no idea if sling does local stuff, never checked. pixelation is never an issue. all content is usually in 1080 dpi. better than any cable shit i've seen.

Good to know. But I don't think that will work for me. I'm on a lowish floor surrounded by taller buildings. Also, I don't have a window that is convenient to the TV *and* looks out at the nearest TV mast.

I might buy an antenna just to see, of course. They're not expensive.

I've seen on youtube that a lot of people get bad reception unless they go external or put it in the attic, which isn't an option open to me.


Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (8rNrN)

235 McTurtle is up now.
Good grief I want to punch him in the face out of principle...

Hit him with an exercise strap, he likes that.

Posted by: Meremortal, lateral this at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (3myMJ)

236 227 Lyin' Ryan is unveiling the new tax plan.
Blah, blah, blah.....

The Freedom Caucus, which is mostly shit, supports the new and improved tax plan.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (mcI77)

237
Try this Ace. Not kidding here. take a piece of old tv cable, keep the connector on one end attached to tv*, cut off the other to about 8 inches and just let it hang. Turn your tv on to the antenna setting and tell me if you don't get 30 digital channels including the locals.

*obviously connected to the antenna port. If you want more channels add some tin foil.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (r+sAi)

238 I predict a new espn campaign to drop the race and come across as super patriotic. Lots of flags, military men and women and apple pie.
But because it's so foreign to espn it will come across as false. And they take a final nose dive into insecurity.

About then the shelves will be complete.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (M+MSn)

239

I dumped cable years ago. I would consider taking it back a la a carte.

Or if a pantheon of Mexican news girls blew me.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits, Provincial Revanchist at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (t3kPl)

240 Is it time for another Technology of Cord Cutting thread? I need a DVR before I can leave cable because Mrs928 has to have her stories recorded. At least they are on OTATV.

Recommendations are most welcome.

You can stream NBC on roku. My wife can get her stories on demand up to 2 weeks back, i believe. I had PlayOn a while ago, kind of acts like a DVR for cord cutters. I just had no need for it, so I stopped using it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (BoMuO)

241 Anyone have an opinion on the Amazon Fuckstick?

It's running a version of android, so you can side load a lot of android apps.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (QQ+il)

242 Buy a lifetime TiVo on EBay, they have ones that have been reconditioned . Probably what you'd pay for 2 months of cable.

Use an an antenna


I personally pirate just about everything these days

Posted by: Hydro at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (ZaAq1)

243 Even the less well spoken rural people I know can do garden/livestock or mechanical things I can't do ... friggin Hollywood.

HIX NIX STIX PIX

Posted by: Old Variety Headlines at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (u0s1P)

244 >MLB.TV (please, God, don't let MLB go in for kneeling shit) gives the option of various audio feeds

I think one or maybe two MLB players knelt for the anthem this past week. Still, it's not many, and also, I think baseball will tend to enforce the rules harder.

Baseball is like DC Comics-- they're number two, and they see a possible opening to become number one again. So I think they'll probably not permit this shit.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:17 PM (8rNrN)


Baseball--by virtue of being #2--doesn't have the national exposure that the NFL enjoys, so it's harder to hijack than the NFL. Also, the players are mostly white, tend to be more conservative, and are old-fashioned about "rules." And the Latin players tend not to want to make waves. Even the African-Americans that play in MLB tend to be suburban, not ghetto-rats.....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy)

245 202 Ace, I have Sling. It works well, considering - the main issues I have with it are the user interface (on Apple TV it's just...crappy) and the connection. I have a gigabit pipe and Sling still drops inexplicably and regularly. I'll be stuck looking at a rotating circle for five minutes before it comes back on.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2017 02:18 PM (PFy0L)



We use Sling (in particular to watch Crimson Tide games, unfortunately many of which are on ESPN), and never have any problem at all. We only have ca. 16 Mbps down.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (SRKgf)

246 Well. I'm not going back to five dollar blowjobs under the overpass, I'll tell you that! But, if I do, don't forget to ask for the white supremacist discount.

Posted by: Jemele Hill at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (O5Q3r)

247 Senator Thune up.
Where's my bullwhip?
I need to get these assholes to *work*, not verbally masturbate.




Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (8iiMU)

248 If you want more channels add some tin foil.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (r+sAi)

Ha! Good luck finding any, suckers!

Posted by: MSNBC viwer locked in mom's basement at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (7HtZB)

249 Well I'm not sure I was prepared for the news about Ace owning a TV. I have to admit I thought he was like the blind supervisor guy on Kung Fu.

Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2017 02:24 PM (8aWIY)

250 Disney has a few levers they can use. In addition to ESPN, they also own The Disney Channel (of course), A&E, and ABC.

ABC would seem like the big one, except that they deliver that content to their franchisees, and those stations make their own deals with the cable companies. ABC owns a few of those stations outright in the big markets like LA, NYC and Chicago.

So, Disney can threaten to get tough with regards to their other channels, but that's only going to get them so far.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (FUu/Z)

251 Anyone have an opinion on the Amazon Fuckstick?




I like it. If you have Amazon Prime and a smart TV, you are already getting the service. If you dont have a smart tv, you are still getting the service, you just cant see it.

Might as well pop for the one time purchase of the firestick.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (lwpdV)

252 You're ALL white supremacists!!!!!

Posted by: Jamele Hill at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (xttKs)

253 This would totally upend Cable if they do this, and prove that there is a cost to being totally lefty.

Posted by: Iblis at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (9221z)

254 I think ESPN need to reorganize by going back to the Keith Olbermann Model: Unhinged Rantings From Mom's Basement.

Posted by: Fritz at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (2Mnv1)

255 Orrin "Shut Your" Hatch up now.

They are fvcking babbling.
Nothing concrete at all.


Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (8iiMU)


Direct quote from the presser:

"This bill will gurble blurble hgurf pthath ptshaw bleeble blort gobble gollum gollum re-election is our Precious, gollum, gollum."

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (s5o+q)

256 I have a digital antenna. Plastic box that sits next to the tv, brings in great signals when I NEED to see local tv. I have a 4 year old roku box, and I have very few problems with lag/ pixels. I don't have sling, but saw it at a friend's house. Seemed to do ok.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:20 PM (BoMuO)

Do you use any kind of DVR?

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (G0vdT)

257 I suppose if I twitted I could start a #DeathToDisney hashtag, it'd be nice to see their execs pulling the ripcords on their golden parachutes and sucking the wind out of the company.

Maybe then we could buy Congress back from them and get copyright law restored to something sane.

Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (TppKb)

258 I am seeing alot of my FB military friends making comments like "disappointed, but I am not going to stop watching because WOOOOOOOO FOOOOTBAAAWWWWLLL!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (BoMuO)

259 I really do love the idea of going back to an antenna, though.

FREE! Isn't that amazing?

I've become so used to cable I haven't even considered an antenna for... good lord, what am I now, almost 29? For almost 24 years.

But the idea of just say "fuck you guys, i'm goin' over-air" is just so wonderful.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (8rNrN)

260 @80: "pixy is very particular about punctuation. Especially in pasted text and IOS 11 quotation marks, apostrophes and hyphens."

Pixy really should do an automatic search and replace of non-ASCII curly quotes, apostrophes, long dashes, etc., rather than spitting out red letter error messages.

Maybe some day! Dare to dream!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (3Vlkn)

261
I think one or maybe two MLB players knelt for the anthem this past week. Still, it's not many, and also, I think baseball will tend to enforce the rules harder.


I think much of it also can be attributed to the fact that many MLB players also come from counties where the government and its police forces are truely abusive so they know they have it good here

Posted by: Otis Campbell at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (lKyWE)

262 McTurtke to you..but he is always Mitch the Bitch to me. Though I really don't know whose bitch he is...GOPe I suppose

Posted by: IC at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (a0IVu)

263 Even Sling and the DirecTv Now Apps require ESPN and/or CNN. The first to offer a product without those two will get my business. Until then, I'm good with Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.

Posted by: gm at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (fJyjM)

264 For local channels, I use a Moku Flat Wave

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9u6yada

It's bendy plastic, about the size of a piece of notebook paper and you just tack it up wherever you get the best reception. Mine's tacked to the back of a tall bookcase, near the top.
Even the more expensive models tend to come with crap connecting cables, but you can just swap in a piece of good quad-shielded instead.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (ul9CR)

265 #FreeTheMouse

There's no justifiable reason Mickey Mouse should still be owned by Disney.

Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (TppKb)

266 239
Try this Ace. Not kidding here. take a piece of old tv cable, keep the connector on one end attached to tv*, cut off the other to about 8 inches and just let it hang. Turn your tv on to the antenna setting and tell me if you don't get 30 digital channels including the locals.

*obviously connected to the antenna port. If you want more channels add some tin foil.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (r+sAi)

==========

Maybe in urban areas, yeah. In my area, you get 5 channels + 4 LPB stations. And to get that many you have to rotate the antenna at least twice. This new golden age of OTA TV hasn't reached Northern Louisiana.

Posted by: Jackal at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (UsVwX)

267 Meremortal, your diabolical plan (well, actually, just your observation on the idiocy) continues to unfold (cue diabolical Vincent Price laugh).

In that connection, the statement by Aaron Rodgers is astonishing. He wants "the fans" to ...... um, do something, to show "unity", or something, so that society can "grow" .... or something.

Well, he may have done us a favor. If more than 18 people at Lambeau do anything to "support" the stupid, incoherent, offensive, but mostly racist whining that is behind the anthem "protests", then we'll know the country truly is lost.

But I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.

WTFF?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (QDnY+)

268 Rush was right. No way Trump will lose this fight.

He is actually fighting a culture war.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (uLuPn)

269
Off lovable drunk sock

Posted by: Deplorable male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (lKyWE)

270 239; i have one tv hooked up like that just a 10' coax cable laying on the floor against the wall. only missing one channel the other tvs get. if i put a signal amplifier on it i'm sure it would get them all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (KP5rU)

271 Likewise, if taxpayers had to choose to pay for Big Government rather than having it forced upon them, well, .gov's books would bleed red.

Oh, wait ... bad analogy, nevermind.

Posted by: ShainS at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (TkDsz)

272
I have a gigabit pipe and Sling still drops inexplicably and regularly. I'll be stuck looking at a rotating circle for five minutes before it comes back on.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks


That's not exactly a glowing recommendation.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (IqV8l)

273 I suppose if I twitted I could start a #DeathToDisney hashtag, it'd be nice to see their execs pulling the ripcords on their golden parachutes and sucking the wind out of the company.


Twitter would 1. Suppress the hashtag, and 2 suspend you for talking conservative on twitter, thereby violating the TOS.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (BoMuO)

274
The other great thing about antenna? no taxes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (r+sAi)

275 "This bill will gurble blurble hgurf pthath ptshaw bleeble blort gobble gollum gollum re-election is our Precious, gollum, gollum."
Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (s5o+q)

You missed "we want democrats help" in that jibberish. That's trouble.

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (G0vdT)

276 Mayberry RFD? I could never really get into that show
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:16 PM (493sH)



I hear you me neither .I was unfairly targeted by Mayberry Police

Posted by: Otis Campbell at September 27, 2017 02:22 PM (lKyWE)



I was black for years. Andy made me wear whiteface.

Posted by: Floyd Lawson at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (QQ+il)

277 Ace, I get Fox and NBC showing on my Sling list. I know CBS will NOT be a part of anything other than its own streaming service, but I don't know about ABC. The Fox and NBC are the local affiliates for my area and show the regular programming.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (PFy0L)

278 Can ESPN please hire Colin Cowherd back so he can be there when The Burning begins?
Posted by: Zod at September 27, 2017 01:59 PM (Bdeb0)

I second this. What a waste of skin.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at September 27, 2017 02:27 PM (J70i0)

279 Anyone remember the good old days of the start of cable where you could make a cable box with a empty cool whip tub and a couple of resistors?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (N7KlP)

280 I am seeing alot of my FB military friends making comments like "disappointed, but I am not going to stop watching because WOOOOOOOO FOOOOTBAAAWWWWLLL!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (BoMuO)



Some people could have football players burn down their homes and they'd still root for them. I can't understand loyalty to people who hate you

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (493sH)

281 I am seeing alot of my FB military friends making comments like
"disappointed, but I am not going to stop watching because WOOOOOOOO
FOOOOTBAAAWWWWLLL!"
===

I think Taya Kyl really summed this up nicely.

We loved the Football That Was.

Not the Football That Is.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (2wRtc)

282 We have Sling through multiple Rokus (Amazon prime and Netflix) we almost never watch local TV (included from comcast as internet gets cheaper with basic bare bones cable). I think OTA is not a good option for us because we live to far out. we have no good path for a signal to get to us.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (0OmEj)

283 I think one or maybe two MLB players knelt for the anthem this past week. Still, it's not many, and also, I think baseball will tend to enforce the rules harder.

Maxwell, catcher for Oakland. White guy. Kneeled at least two games now.
======
baseball players enforce the rules of their sport. He'd better be ready to hit the deck next time he's in the box.

Posted by: simplemind at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (+dnS0)

284 Try this Ace. Not kidding here. take a piece of old tv cable, keep the connector on one end attached to tv*, cut off the other to about 8 inches and just let it hang. Turn your tv on to the antenna setting and tell me if you don't get 30 digital channels including the locals.

*obviously connected to the antenna port. If you want more channels add some tin foil.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (r+sAi)



As long as we're in Rube Goldberg mode, I'll share this one. Our wireless router is at one end of our house, so I lined a cardboard box with aluminum foil to reflect the microwaves that would go outside back toward the rest of the house.

Works like a champ, and gives a stronger signal in the entire house. No point irradiating the neighbors!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (SRKgf)

285 Turn your tv on to the antenna setting and tell me if you don't get 30 digital channels including the locals.

*obviously connected to the antenna port. If you want more channels add some tin foil.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:2PM (r+sAi)


Yes, because ABC1 ABC2 and ABC3 are AWESOME channels......and ALL the SPANISH stations. AYE CARRUMBA!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (xttKs)

286 >>> suppose if I twitted I could start a #DeathToDisney hashtag, it'd be nice to see their execs pulling the ripcords on their golden parachutes and sucking the wind out of the company.

disney's tough. I'd love to bring it down, but no parent is going to boycott it. Kids like the movies too much, and parents like being able to just put on Frozen for the kids and having a couple of hours of peace to themselves.

but I think the Star Wars thing is about to crash, or at least find a lower level of viewership, and Marvel too.

Marvel's getting really lame. The Defenders was crap, after all that waiting, and it turns out it was the *lowest rated* of all Netflix Marvel tv shows. Weird. But it does seem like people are getting over it.

We passed Peak Superhero at about Ant-Man and are now on the downward slide.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (8rNrN)

287 265 Even Sling and the DirecTv Now Apps require ESPN and/or CNN. The first to offer a product without those two will get my business. Until then, I'm good with Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.
Posted by: gm at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (fJyjM)

Slings base plan does not include ESPN.

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

288 >> But given that I'm struggling with f***ing Ikea shelves, I think built-ins will have to wait.


Try using more Lube.

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 02:29 PM (tC+y0)

289 Maybe in urban areas, yeah. In my area, you get 5 channels + 4 LPB stations. And to get that many you have to rotate the antenna at least twice. This new golden age of OTA TV hasn't reached Northern Louisiana.

We've got xfinity, Amazon Fire, a Roku box in one room, some other crap. Chromecasts. Plex on the Synology box with a lot of stuff whose sources are...anonymous. An antenna in the attic that picks up a dozen OTA stations, but not well connected to everything else.

Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2017 02:29 PM (TppKb)

290 I've seen some asking, so...

I hooked an ancient rabbit ear antenna to my new TV and got 70 stations.

If I would get a better antenna I'm sure I'd get more. But right now, I don't even know what is on those 70 channels.


Shout out to Elmer Fudd... /c wabbitz ears

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:29 PM (q3DpH)

291 "pixy is very particular about punctuation. Especially in pasted text and IOS 11 quotation marks, apostrophes and hyphens."



Funny. I am having the opposite problem. I can copy and paste almost anything, but I cant post my own apostrophes or quotation marks without getting the 500 Error.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2017 02:29 PM (lwpdV)

292 Try using more Lube.

Moron Lube works the best.

Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2017 02:29 PM (TppKb)

293 baseball players enforce the rules of their sport. He'd better be ready to hit the deck next time he's in the box.

Posted by: simplemind at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (+dnS0)


Played 3 games against the Texas Rangers while doing this shit and didn't get hit one time.......

Fuck. Em. All.

Posted by: Sponge at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (xttKs)

294 268; i live in the middle of wasteland wisconsin. i can get all green bay channels, wausau channels, and, on a good day lacrosse channels. i never rotate the antenna. i have a $70 antenna.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (KP5rU)

295 That's not exactly a glowing recommendation.

You're right. And it's just Sling. I can switch over to any other streaming service immediately after Sling crashes and they will all work just fine. Just not Sling. Very odd.

I'm not sure if it's limited to Apple TV or what - I don't watch Sling on my computer or anything, so I never fully tested it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (PFy0L)

296 >>>Try this Ace. Not kidding here. take a piece of old tv cable, keep the connector on one end attached to tv*, cut off the other to about 8 inches and just let it hang. Turn your tv on to the antenna setting and tell me if you don't get 30 digital channels including the locals.

I've got a video about doing that bookmarked. I haven't done it yet. I just think I'm going to be in poor area because line of sight to the masts is pretty well blocked for me.

I'll do this one of these days, though. After the Shelf Initiative is complete.

Around, say, #twoweeks should do it, I think.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (8rNrN)

297 ace sometimes reading the directions does help.

smiles than runs and hides behind the couch

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (FKrah)

298 I'm not sure where all that NCAA money goes -- I
imagine most of it goes to subsidize OTHER college sports besides
football and baseball.





Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (8rNrN)


Yep. Have to pay for Title IX sports.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (uiwCw)

299 Oh, and PT (previous topic, to attempt to coin a new comment section abbreviation) - remember, there was no "scandal" connected to Katrina apart from the criminal negligence and incompetence of the state govt. of LA, and the city govt. of New Orleans. Not a bit. One of the best, if not *the* best (and biggest til Irma) federal disaster response, ever.

Katrina is the quintessential, nearly a Platonic ideal, of media distortion, combined with public ignorance of how their own country actually works, and of course showcased the idiocy of people so easily race-baited.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2017 02:31 PM (QDnY+)

300 But the idea of just say "fuck you guys, i'm goin' over-air" is just so wonderful.
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:25 PM (8rNrN)

...

Plus you can tell the shelving guy you hired him with the money you saved on cable.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:31 PM (yL25O)

301
I hooked an ancient rabbit ear antenna to my new TV and got 70 stations.


How many were English language stations?

Posted by: Deplorable male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:31 PM (lKyWE)

302 *obviously connected to the antenna port. If you want more channels add some tin foil.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk
===


I have been preparing for this moment my entire life.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:31 PM (2wRtc)

303 289; exactly. espn free for years now. sling does not force you to take espn.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:31 PM (KP5rU)

304 291 Maybe in urban areas, yeah. In my area, you get 5 channels + 4 LPB stations. And to get that many you have to rotate the antenna at least twice. This new golden age of OTA TV hasn't reached Northern Louisiana.

We've got xfinity, Amazon Fire, a Roku box in one room, some other crap. Chromecasts. Plex on the Synology box with a lot of stuff whose sources are...anonymous. An antenna in the attic that picks up a dozen OTA stations, but not well connected to everything else.
Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2017 02:29 PM (TppKb)

========

Heh, tried the anonymous sources thing. It ain't anonymous enough for my tastes. The cable provider here bitches way too much to do it. Now Brighthouse in CA didn't seem to give a shit.

Posted by: Jackal at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (UsVwX)

305 There are some very cool make-your-own indoor antenna plans online, for those handy with tools.

They tend to be pretty big though. Lot bigger than a digital box or a flat wave. Still, they look like fun projects.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (ul9CR)

306
Watching Youtube through the tv firestick is so much better than my computer.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (r+sAi)

307 Even Sling and the DirecTv Now Apps require ESPN and/or CNN. The first to offer a product without those two will get my business. Until then, I'm good with Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.
Posted by: gm at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (fJyjM)

Slings base plan does not include ESPN.
Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (G0vdT)


Specifically, the Sling Blue package doesn't have ESPN.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (s5o+q)

308 Once the phone conference I'm half-listening to wraps up, I'm outta here and going home to, yes honestly, hang some shelves.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (z4cjb)

309 Do you use any kind of DVR?



PlayOn is the equivalent. It needs to run on a computer, uses the HD as DVR storage. Good for playing videos to the Roku also. I have a lifetime subscription ($39 at the time). Also comes with a bunch of content.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (BoMuO)

310 The best OTA antenna setup is one that has the signal booster(pre-amplifier) on the antenna. Not at the TV end. Use some good RG6 quad shield for the cable. Put it in a elevated location outside or in the attic and you'll typically get 50 channels plus.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (mcI77)

311 Gays have been protesting Trump for decades

Posted by: Done with animals at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (gepmM)

312 Monday night NFL ratings were UP 3% from last year Ace has yet to correct
----------------------------------------
From last year, when they were down 30% or so?
(There was a Hillary-Trump debate that night.)
Yikes. I find it hard to believe they were THAT bad, given that a lot of people tuned in at the outset just to see what Dallas would do.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (0jtPF)

313 Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2017 02:26 PM (QDnY+)

Hey, by the way, that National Socialist party thing of mine was a class A brain fart. That's a Taiwan group. There's also a real white supremacist group with a name like that.

The one I was trying to name is called Democratic Socialists of America. Varying report of congressional membership from 56-70.

Kuchinich, Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, etc.

Posted by: Meremortal, lateral this at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (3myMJ)

314 Mark my words:

Gamergate for football

Political Normies don't like it when j005 mess with their escapism.

Posted by: Shiggz at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (x+MG+)

315 I think what I found most offensive about the not standing is had been under the illusion sports brought us together, rooting for us/America/them/sport

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (FKrah)

316

competition
what a concept

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2017 02:33 PM (fceHP)

317 >>>e, I get Fox and NBC showing on my Sling list. I know CBS will NOT be a part of anything other than its own streaming service, but I don't know about ABC. The Fox and NBC are the local affiliates for my area and show the regular programming.

Eh, good enough. Like I said, I primarily just want some access to local news. I guess I'd miss CBS some, but not all that much. I don't even know what's on ABC besides the two lame Marvel shows.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:33 PM (8rNrN)

318 298; ace, the internal wiring in most buildings act as antennas. you may be surprised.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:33 PM (KP5rU)

319 >>>Political Normies don't like it when j005 mess with their escapism.
Posted by: Shiggz

...

what's your problem, other than the obvious?

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:34 PM (8rNrN)

320 I don't understand this "line of sight is blocked" thing.
why do people live stacked on top of other people?
seems very odd.

go rural ... never look back.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:34 PM (yKAUL)

321 baseball players enforce the rules of their sport. He'd better be ready to hit the deck next time he's in the box.

Not like the old days. They all love each other now. No more rivalry's really. They all got the same agents, make big money. Nobody wants to jeopardize that.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 27, 2017 02:34 PM (O5Q3r)

322 What matters are the ratings this week. A lot of new people got really mad Sunday. They were willing to ignore one here, two there.

But 200? They are pissed.

Posted by: Meremortal, lateral this at September 27, 2017 02:34 PM (3myMJ)

323 >>>298; ace, the internal wiring in most buildings act as antennas. you may be surprised.

but you can't do that if you also use that wiring for internet delivery, which of course I must.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:34 PM (8rNrN)

324 Plex on the Synology box with a lot of stuff whose sources are...anonymous. An antenna in the attic that picks up a dozen OTA stations, but not well connected to everything else.
Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2017 02:29 PM (TppKb)

...

I have an older synology box that I need to set up (used to be a work box). Does plex also help you rip your own dvd's to store them?

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:34 PM (yL25O)

325 When they all took a knee, they must not have known that they would end up in the dog's business.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:35 PM (uLuPn)

326
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (8rNrN)


I sit below my neighbors to the east by about 5-7 feet (our subdivision is basically houses in stadium seating, each row sits below the next so we're above our western neighbors.)

Problem is all our TV signals come in from the ESE. And our TV is on the west side of the house. So despite only be 11 miles from the transmitter I had to buy a 50 mile antenna, place it just so that it basically sits in the area that lines up with a gap in the houses (houses are also staggered a bit). And still it cuts out a fair amount.

But we're not paying charter a shit ton anymore. (Overall bill is only down by about $10/month. Could be a lot lower if we told our daughter to suffer. Alas, we spoil her.)

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 02:35 PM (dzmBR)

327
You can tell somebody's age by if their parents said tin foil and you picked it up. But yes, it is made out of aluminum, snarkers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:35 PM (r+sAi)

328 296 268; i live in the middle of wasteland wisconsin. i can get all green bay channels, wausau channels, and, on a good day lacrosse channels. i never rotate the antenna. i have a $70 antenna.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (KP5rU)

=============

I wager it's fairly flat there. NW LA is more hilly than people realize.

Posted by: Jackal at September 27, 2017 02:35 PM (UsVwX)

329 A thousand NFL player arrests, here is the database list from USA Today going back to 2000. 2017 looks like it will be a record breaking year! About 1,000 arrest since 2000. Huge amount of domestic violence and beating up their girlfriends!!
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

Posted by: chishafferty at September 27, 2017 02:35 PM (WdNJ8)

330 One more thing...

I think age of TV also affects what stations you can get with a rabbit antenna.

I have an older TV in another room, that I have an upgraded Antenna for & it does not bring in near the number of stations the new TV does ( with an ancient rabbit ear antenna).

So I think TV age also impacts what you can pick up OTA. JMO

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:35 PM (q3DpH)

331 illiniwek, I also find it yucky to live in tiny apts with no other space garden or whatever. and hearing neighbors from everywhere doing whatever. It would drive me mad in a mth.

but some really like living that life

shrugs.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:36 PM (FKrah)

332 There are at least five must see Andy Griffith episodes.

1. Opie and the bully
2. Opie Hobo friend
3. Mr. McBeevee
4. Opie the Birdman
5. Lawman Barney

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:36 PM (N7KlP)

333 I have an older synology box that I need to set up (used to be a work box). Does plex also help you rip your own dvd's to store them?

There's some suggestion that you need to look at redfox.bz but you didn't hear it from me.

Posted by: JEM at September 27, 2017 02:36 PM (TppKb)

334
I'm not sure where all that NCAA money goes -- I imagine most of it goes to subsidize OTHER college sports besides football and baseball.


NCAA football money mainly goes to the university's football program same with NCAA Basketball the other sports programs get some crums maybe

Posted by: Deplorable male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:36 PM (lKyWE)

335 Specifically, the Sling Blue package doesn't have ESPN.
Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (s5o+q)


Indeed. In fact the ONLY thing Sling orange has over Blue is ESPN and Disney. If you don't need either of those, dump them like a hot potato. Fact that it's only $25/month is great too. (Though once we split our cable bundle our internet jumped by $15/month.)

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 02:36 PM (dzmBR)

336 Not like the old days. They all love each other now. No more rivalry's really. They all got the same agents, make big money. Nobody wants to jeopardize that.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 27, 2017 02:34 PM (O5Q3r)

Have you ever been to a Yankees-Red Sox game??

Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2017 02:37 PM (7uYFy)

337 298 I'm not sure where all that NCAA money goes -- I
imagine most of it goes to subsidize OTHER college sports besides
football and baseball.


Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:06 PM (8rNrN)

Yep. Have to pay for Title IX sports.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (uiwCw)


Not to mention the AD and Coaches Mercedes, and other fringe benefits

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 27, 2017 02:37 PM (jxbfJ)

338 I aslo would think the steel beams in buildings would interfere with net or antennas?

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:37 PM (FKrah)

339 Anyone remember the good old days of the start of cable where you could make a cable box with a empty cool whip tub and a couple of resistors?


If you didn't have one of those fancy descramblers you were stuck looking at wavy boobies.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:37 PM (BoMuO)

340 >>>The best OTA antenna setup is one that has the signal booster(pre-amplifier) on the antenna. Not at the TV end. Use some good RG6 quad shield for the cable. Put it in a elevated location outside or in the attic and you'll typically get 50 channels plus.

Good advice for many, but alas, not for me.

"Man who struggles to put up shelf will find mounting antenna up on roof to be challenge as great as fighting all the hosts of the heavens." -- Confuscius

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (8rNrN)

341 The funniest statement was the one about "if you stand for the anthem you are a white supremacist."

The majority of black players are standing for anthem every week. The majority of black people in the stands are doing the same.

Nice own-goal, dumbassess.

Posted by: Meremortal, No Way Out NFL at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (3myMJ)

342 I'm not sure if it's limited to Apple TV or what - I don't watch Sling on my computer or anything, so I never fully tested it.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 27, 2017 02:30 PM (PFy0L)



I've watched Sling on the computer and through Roku on a TV, and never had any trouble with either one, ever.

Btw, I bought a Roku Express for the elder of the young Guevaras to use at college, and then bought one for use on a TV in my garage/gym, and they work great. Cheap, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (SRKgf)

343 I liked it when Dish Network's last letter to me stated "Sorry to lose you as a customer".

I had only bought their services to get the NFL package. I canceled that Last year. Then I canceled Dish. 1000 channels and I watched maybe three shows.

Now I just stream those via Hulu.

easy. less money. WINNING.

Posted by: USMC8541One Shot to Slay them all at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (NmR1a)

344 A thousand NFL player arrests, here is the database list from USA Today going back to 2000. 2017 looks like it will be a record breaking year! About 1,000 arrest since 2000. Huge amount of domestic violence and beating up their girlfriends!!
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

Posted by: chishafferty at September 27, 2017 02:35 PM (WdNJ



What role models. Please have them lecture us some more about police brutality and the evils of whitey

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (493sH)

345 Wireless corner reflector. 3M spray adhesive, cardboard and aluminum foil. Don't bother doing the math. Tape a clothepin to fasten the cable stub to reflector per Guy and Jay's advice and then fiddle with the infernal contraption.

foil the bottom and two sides.

Posted by: 13times at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (WHVu+)

346
I personally pirate just about everything these days

Posted by: Hydro
________________

Yes, I know...

Posted by: Bob from NSA at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (0mskG)

347 ". i never rotate the antenna. i have a $70 antenna.

Posted by: chavez

I got one, amplified signal, can rotate (but yeah, no need) ... for like $25 delivered. works great. They are cheap now. (probably China owned warehouse in US, but why pay middleman Amazon?)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (yKAUL)

348 I'm not an antitrust guy, but how is the forced buying of multiple channels not a prohibited tying arrangement under the Clayton Act?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (NWiLs)

349
if you only want one or two channels to see the local news, I don't think all line of sight will be lost, just screw on a cable, run the channel search and see what happens.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (r+sAi)

350 I know that there's a lot of hate towards National Review around here, but there's an interesting dynamic on this going on right now.

David French and Jay Nord...whatever his name is are on the side of "We totally get and sympathize with the athletes" while Rich Lowry is on the other saying that it's stupid.

Even better was this from John Hawkins at NRO:

"Let liberals start getting fired for their views and they may start having some second thoughts. If they don't, we're just evening the playing field, because they're already firing conservatives for their views."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (b0iGi)

351 The Law passed so that Condo's and Apartment's can't prevent you from having a Sat dish also includes TV antennas

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (dKiJG)

352 I aslo would think the steel beams in buildings would interfere with net or antennas?

AMAZON FIRE CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS!!!

Posted by: ROSIE! at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (HtLSE)

353 I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard. The neighbors are pissed, but Argentinian TV comes in crystal clear.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (BoMuO)

354 I've already have TV a la carte. I don't have TV, the epitome in a la carte.

Posted by: Jordan Spieth is total head case at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (gepmM)

355 we get our Vidiot AND our Internet through Dish...

this is an interesting development. not sure i can convince HRH at this time to fully drop ESPN, but we're not watching them much, if at all, and that would show in our records.

and i don't think we have any special NFL packages either. she's not THAT big a fan, and i never was.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (74nHm)

356 315 I think what I found most offensive about the not standing is had been under the illusion sports brought us together, rooting for us/America/them/sport
Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:32 PM (FKrah)



I am still most pissed off about their behavior in England. I wonder how many people know about that. Even if the NFL
thing here doesn't faze them, I think that would.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (q3DpH)

357 >>>Indeed. In fact the ONLY thing Sling orange has over Blue is ESPN and Disney. If you don't need either of those, dump them like a hot potato. Fact that it's only $25/month is great too. (Though once we split our cable bundle our internet jumped by $15/month.)

Isn't orange only deliverable to a single tv, whereas Blue delivers to three tvs at the same time? I thought I read that on their page.

My only problem with Blue is that I think it didn't have FXX (always sunny, archer) or CW (the DC superhero shows).

But I can wait for sunny and archer when they are released on Amazon or Netflix or whatever, and I'm looking to drop the DC superhero shows like they're hot anyway.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (8rNrN)

358 There are at least five must see Andy Griffith episodes.

1. Opie and the bully
2. Opie Hobo friend
3. Mr. McBeevee
4. Opie the Birdman
5. Lawman Barney
Posted by: Jack Sock



Denver Pyle and the Darlings & Earnest T Bass.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2017 02:40 PM (lwpdV)

359 323: ace, you don't need to interrupt anything you are doing now. unhook your your cable, do a channel search on your tv see what happens.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:40 PM (KP5rU)

360 If you didn't have one of those fancy descramblers you were stuck looking at wavy boobies.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:37 PM (BoMuO)

Wavy boobies were better than none.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 27, 2017 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

361
We passed Peak Superhero at about Ant-Man and are now on the downward slide.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (8rNrN)


I'm still willing to give The Punisher a chance, if they Frank Miller it. I still think Berthal (sp?) is too small to play Frank Castle. Castle is supposed to be 6'4" or better.
I just don't get Charlie Cox and all his weird grunting and forced heavy breathing.
A big problem with the Defenders is that the Hand, as depicted, wasn't enough of a threat. Especially given all the villains Marvel could pull out. There just wasn't enough for everyone to do. And Jessica Jones is a complete waste. Boring, whining, and not attractive. And with a mystical style threat, why no Dr. Strange (or anyone from his series) involvement?

Posted by: Iblis at September 27, 2017 02:40 PM (9221z)

362 331 illiniwek, I also find it yucky to live in tiny apts with no other space garden or whatever. and hearing neighbors from everywhere doing whatever. It would drive me mad in a mth.

but some really like living that life

shrugs.
Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:36 PM (FKrah)




It's worse than that. They will push it on you in the name of "Walkable" cities. Say goodbye to backyards or frontyards, or to auto mobility, since they want you to ride around on a unicycle.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 02:40 PM (ujg0T)

363 Have you ever been to a Yankees-Red Sox game??

A lot of them. And it's not the same any more.
Remy and Eckersley were talking about that the other night. If you even talked to another guy on the Yankees, guys would be all over your ass. Not that way any more.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (O5Q3r)

364 fuck ESPN. Berman and Jackson have blood libeled Rush Limbaugh for years now.

Posted by: x at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (nFwvY)

365 I'm not an antitrust guy, but how is the forced buying of multiple channels not a prohibited tying arrangement under the Clayton Act?


Or at least a Logan Act violation!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (BoMuO)

366 88 But, I can't get that. I have to have the Sports Package and NHL Package in order to see the max # of games in a season.

Posted by: garrett at September 27, 2017 02:02 PM (hcyN/)

And any team that you're in a "Local Market" for will get blacked out so you can't see their games anyway. For me, that's 3 teams (Flyers, Capitals, Penguins).

Posted by: Hikaru at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (XMDuf)

367 353 I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard. The neighbors are pissed, but Argentinian TV comes in crystal clear.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (BoMuO)


May I bow to your righteousness ?

Posted by: Jordan Spieth is total head case at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (gepmM)

368 can we start some kind of campaign to get feminists to protest forcing women, who don't watch sports nearly as much as women, to subsidize men's sports-viewing habits?

The "Women's shows" -- lifetime, bravo, that crap -- don't cost nearly as much as ESPN, and they're frequently add-ons rather than being part of the base tier.

#DownWithThePatriarchy

#WomenShouldntPayMore

#EndTheTaxOnWomen

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (8rNrN)

369 We have Comcast and I wish Comcast would allow us to choose which cable programs to watch. I'd drop ESPN like a hot potato.

Posted by: flukeboy at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (EtEhm)

370 >>Now I just stream those via Hulu. easy. less money. WINNING. Posted by: USMC8541One Shot to Slay them all at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (NmR1a)

Hulu's "Shows You May Also Like" = new t.v. guide

Posted by: Zod at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (Bdeb0)

371 pops rosies bra strap

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (FKrah)

372 As long as we're in Rube Goldberg mode, I'll share this one. Our wireless router is at one end of our house, so I lined a cardboard box with aluminum foil to reflect the microwaves that would go outside back toward the rest of the house.

Works like a champ, and gives a stronger signal in the entire house. No point irradiating the neighbors!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:28 PM (SRKgf)
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Wait wait wait. Tell me really slowly and in words of one syllable how you did this. Our wireless has gone to pot in the last year and Verizon is not helpful.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (UoSKV)

373 I know there are buildings that cell phone signals are bad, go outside or near a window and you are fine. I work in different buildings all the time. Some no problem.

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (ghofu)

374 Goober, Gomer, Floyd, Harold and Barney were annoying as heck.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (uLuPn)

375 If that happened, Katie Bar the Door, because that would destroy ESPN's business model.

Cable businesses need to think about themselves, not channels. ESPN is hemorrhaging viewers and while it still has prime ads, that money doesn't go to the cable company if people stop watching it. Its expensive to keep these marquee channels.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)

376 Or at least a Logan Act violation!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (BoMuO)

*snort*

Posted by: Insomniac at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (NWiLs)

377 I don't watch TV, but if I could get HGTV, the Food Channel and Alaska, The Last Frontier for the MereWife, I could dump Direct TV.

Posted by: Meremortal, No Way Out NFL at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (3myMJ)

378 My only problem with Blue is that I think it didn't have FXX (always sunny, archer) or CW (the DC superhero shows).

But I can wait for sunny and archer when they are released on Amazon or Netflix or whatever, and I'm looking to drop the DC superhero shows like they're hot anyway.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (8rNrN)

I thought the beauty of SlingTV was after the base pacakge, it's a la carte. Pay for what channels you want. Did I misread their website?

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (G0vdT)

379 353 I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (BoMuO)


The state flower of South Carolina.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (mcI77)

380 ESPN is all well and good, but what the college problem that is two orders of magnitude worse with meaningless degrees, massive expenditures on "student life" items, etc.

Posted by: MAGA at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (Mzxyq)

381 When I chose to get back into baseball a couple of years ago, I really should have chosen a team that wasn't my childhood favorite. For it was the Oakland Athletic's middling catcher Bruce Maxwell (okay position player, borderline terrible batter) who was the first to kneel in the majors.

I'm glad the A's season pretty much ended 3 months ago so I don't have to care that much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (b0iGi)

382 We live on the other side of the hill(s) and in a valley more than 6o miles from the tower, so no good line of site for us (unless I gain a 1000 ft or so of elevation).
South of Denver.... OTA is hit or miss here.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (0OmEj)

383 This whole ESPN thing is clearly an impeachable offense. Trump has got to go!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (BoMuO)

384 "I aslo would think the steel beams in buildings would interfere with net or antennas?"

why would you think that? FIRE CAN'T MELT STEEL!!! so how could it interfere with my TV?

Posted by: rosie o'donnell at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (RzUqr)

385 >>>'m not an antitrust guy, but how is the forced buying of multiple channels not a prohibited tying arrangement under the Clayton Act?

I think because ESPN and the cable companies are separate entities, and fight with each other over this.

If ESPN owned cable companies, and then used its local monopolies to force people to buy ESPN, that would be a tying violation. But the fact that these are separate entities, i think, keeps them out of hot water.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (8rNrN)

386 #DownWithThePatriarchy

#WomenShouldntPayMore

#EndTheTaxOnWomen
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (8rNrN

see ace Could do well on advertising, if he wanted.

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (FKrah)

387 98 The lovely Trish Regan just said in her opening lines: "We have to stop this redistribution of wealth, and give money back to the hard working people of this country who earned it to begin with."

"Why do we want to penalize prosperity? Why do we want to stick it to those who want to work a little harder?"

I'm even more in love with her.


Posted by: Anchorbabe fashion cop at September 27, 2017 02:04 PM (8iiMU)

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She ripped some guy's asshole yesterday when he was trying to make excuses for the NFL kneeling.

Posted by: Soona at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (ZAAkQ)

388 SJWs talk. Red-pilled wallets walk.

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (DQ4Fv)

389 "If you didn't have one of those fancy descramblers you were stuck looking at wavy boobies."

Suppressed Sync scrambling!

Posted by: Chris M at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (eAZVt)

390
There are at least five must see Andy Griffith episodes. 1. Opie and the bully
2. Opie Hobo friend
3. Mr. McBeevee
4. Opie the Birdman
5. Lawman Barney
Posted by: Jack Sock



I don't see the Opie Wears a Dress to School episode on you must watch list

Posted by: Deplorable male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (lKyWE)

391 Maybe ESPN could bump its ratings and demonstrate true unity and patriotism by having Dreamers burn the American Flag at mid-field in show of solidarity for First Amendment rights!

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (hKi6n)

392 Search: wireless corner reflector

Posted by: 13times at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (WHVu+)

393 down with stinky sweaty men!

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:44 PM (FKrah)

394 "I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard. The neighbors are pissed, but Argentinian TV comes in crystal clear.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

ha ... I recently pulled my BUD (big ugly dish) out of the ground ... might try to use it to transmit wifi a quarter mile per suggestion, not sure if that really works. But the little Dish is pretty amazing, ... and don't have to go out in the cold to dial in the correct satellite like my uncle did. ha

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:44 PM (yKAUL)

395 332 There are at least five must see Andy Griffith episodes.

1. Opie and the bully
2. Opie Hobo friend
3. Mr. McBeevee
4. Opie the Birdman
5. Lawman Barney
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 02:36 PM (N7KlP)

Never have I viewed even one. Absolutely no truck in it

Posted by: Jordan Spieth is total head case at September 27, 2017 02:44 PM (gepmM)

396
Mere, you can get those channels with the roku or firestick. Gonna have to watch some youtube videos though to walk you through the pirate ship.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:44 PM (r+sAi)

397 Essentially
Slittlng our
Parent-company's
Neck

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 02:44 PM (DQ4Fv)

398
Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (8rNrN)


Orange is only 1 stream at once yes. That's Disney's demand actually.

Blue has FX and FXX. I found Sling's site to be a bit confusing actually. Wikipedia has a much better layout showing what's in the "base" package (common to Blue and Orange) and what's in each individual package.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (dzmBR)

399 Slittlng = Slitting

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

400 women should not have to pay for jock straps!

Posted by: willow at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (FKrah)

401 As I have written a few times, the Philadelphia sports talk radio is on now, (97.5 the Fanatic )
Missanelli ( a Leftist btw) has turned todays show totally into this protest.

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (ghofu)

402 Our wireless has gone to pot in the last year and Verizon is not helpful.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (UoSKV)


Hell Verizon stopped even delivering internet in my neighborhood. And they want $55 for simple phone service. I'm stuck with Optimum (Cablevision) and they're about to jack my rates up by $30+ because the year long "intro" rate is going to end. Any tips on negotiating them down?

Posted by: Iblis at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (9221z)

403 I hooked an ancient rabbit ear antenna to my new TV and got 70 stations.

How many were English language stations?
Posted by: Deplorable male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:31 PM (lKyWE)


Here in SoCal I suspect you can get a tan from the Mexican stations beaming at power levels exceeding that of the large hadron collider.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (SRKgf)

404 OT, from WaPo:

Norks are trying to find "Republican linked analysts" to explain "Trumps confusing messages."

Yeah, I'm not sure that any of the "Republican linked GOPe analysts" are going to understand that Trump is saying "Give up your nuclear ambitions or will will turn you into glass."

/perhaps Ace needs to email the Norks? Seems like a job opportunity. Also.. get paid in gold bullion up front.

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (aT+Bx)

405 I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard.

I admit to an irrational desire for a giant dish. Possibly I watched Goldeneye at an impressionable moment or something.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (HtLSE)

406 Sling basic has CNN

Posted by: gm at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (fJyjM)

407 >>>I thought the beauty of SlingTV was after the base pacakge, it's a la carte. Pay for what channels you want. Did I misread their website?

yeah but like when you start adding in all these channels, you wind up jacking up the cost, and also, you buy these channels as a package deal along with a bunch of other channels.

Still, it's probably still cheaper than cable, and I think I remember that I could avoid getting ESPN even adding in some more channels. But I'm not sure about that.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (8rNrN)

408 Goober, Gomer, Floyd, Harold and Barney were annoying as heck.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (uLuPn)



Harold?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:46 PM (493sH)

409
385 >>>'m not an antitrust guy, but how is the forced buying of multiple channels not a prohibited tying arrangement under the Clayton Act?

I think because ESPN and the cable companies are separate entities, and fight with each other over this.

If ESPN owned cable companies, and then used its local monopolies to force people to buy ESPN, that would be a tying violation. But the fact that these are separate entities, i think, keeps them out of hot water.



Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (8rNrN)



Of course though Comcast does own NBC. And so it "forces" people to buy their channels, like MSNBC, CNBC, USA.

Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2017 02:46 PM (cAnNx)

410 391 Maybe ESPN could bump its ratings and demonstrate true unity and patriotism by having Dreamers burn the American Flag at mid-field in show of solidarity for First Amendment rights!
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 27, 2017 02:43 PM (hKi6n)



Before or after they mow the field?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:46 PM (SRKgf)

411
Here in SoCal I suspect you can get a tan from the Mexican stations beaming at power levels exceeding that of the large hadron collider.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM (SRKgf)


I know I live in LA

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:47 PM (lKyWE)

412 Ace, I have Sling and DirectvNow (just for FBN and Tucker). I have not once regretted cancelling cable.
Sling has local fox and nbc, DTVNow has all of them, including ABC and CBS. Unfortunately, ESPN is included.
Sling has DVR, DTVNow does not. Sling also has excellent On Demand, very similar to cable.
I prefer Sling and if they get FBN I would cancel DTVNow.

Posted by: DJ at September 27, 2017 02:47 PM (1c5KN)

413 I'm not an antitrust guy, but how is the forced buying of multiple channels not a prohibited tying arrangement under the Clayton Act?



Oh honey, we pick and choose our laws now. Open borders are kewl. Wiretaps & unmaskings - kewl.

Antitrust laws? Aren't those "against truth" laws? We don't want none of them!

Posted by: Loretta Lynch - Deep State at September 27, 2017 02:47 PM (q3DpH)

414 Wasn't Disney the outfit that hired some useless blowhard to be CEO and a few months later paid him $130 MILLION fucking dollars to go away?

Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2017 02:47 PM (6dFYM)

415 Speaking of Comcast, how is it not a conflict of interest for them to not only own the networks who have the NHL broadcast contract (NBC/NBC Sports), but ALSO an NHL team itself (Philadelphia Flyers)?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 27, 2017 02:47 PM (XMDuf)

416 PlayStation Vue offers free DVR and unique channel packages through most devices even a 20 dollar Roku.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 27, 2017 02:47 PM (XFue2)

417 ESJWPN's Can't Miss Solution: Just add more blonde, vapid, and busty sideline reporterettes to tell us dramatic, emotional sob stories about the inside linebacker's baby mama's battle with substance abuse and systemic racism.

Posted by: Jaws at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM (oOw3I)

418 Here in SoCal I suspect you can get a tan from the Mexican stations beaming at power levels exceeding that of the large hadron collider.

I feel a hot wind, on my shoulder...

Posted by: Wall of Voodoo at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM (HtLSE)

419 Would the Andy Griffith show get made now? I vote no.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM (BoMuO)

420 PlayStation Vue offers free DVR and unique channel packages through most devices even a 20 dollar Roku.
--

Is Play Station spying on people, or is that just XBox?

It's hard to keep up these days.

Posted by: shibumi at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM (aT+Bx)

421 Of course though Comcast does own NBC. And so it "forces" people to buy their channels, like MSNBC, CNBC, USA.
Posted by: buzzion at September 27, 2017 02:46 PM (cAnNx)



General Electric no more?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM (ujg0T)

422 >>ace, you don't need to interrupt anything you are doing now. unhook your your cable, do a channel search on your tv see what happens.

oh yeah. Good idea.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:49 PM (8rNrN)

423 Is Play Station spying on people, or is that just XBox?
==========

Xbox as far as I know. You have to buy all the equipment extra for PlayStation to spy on you.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 27, 2017 02:49 PM (vg8iE)

424 >>>PlayStation Vue offers free DVR and unique channel packages through most devices even a 20 dollar Roku.

I'm really looking into this. One problem -- ESPN!!!!

I just don't want to fucking pay for that channel. In fact, get this, I'll pay MORE to not have it.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:49 PM (8rNrN)

425 I no longer have cable but I do have a way to get ESPN if I want to watch it. That said, the only time I've watched ESPN in years has been the few times they had the Sunday evening baseball broadcast and my team was playing. I never heard any political bullshit during the play by play and turn it off as soon as the game is over. If they were to disappear, those games would be broadcast elsewhere.

Posted by: Bill R. at September 27, 2017 02:49 PM (IuYIh)

426 Doh!


Nike's "Elite Youth Basketball League" (EYBL) has now been subpoenaed as a part of the ongoing corruption investigation.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 27, 2017 02:49 PM (uiwCw)

427 You know who is fully supportive of Al A Carte?

Juan McLame.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 27, 2017 02:50 PM (jsWA8)

428 Joe Manchin, the #McVainMaverick of the left is a great weathervane on social issues, since he is trying to hold his seat for the Demoncrats in the in a GOP state.

Here's what he said today on the NFL:

"This is something that the owners have to address...(they have to) step in here and say, "I'm not going to tolerate it"... I think everyone should stand and show reflect for the flag that represents the greatest nation on earth."

Trump is a political genius. Next, he will have Hillary so twisted up, she will be leading school kids in the pledge of allegiance.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 27, 2017 02:50 PM (LISuA)

429 Tried the free week on sling and hulu. wasn't for us, just not a 3 letter tv station fan and not much on there for young kids.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2017 02:50 PM (r+sAi)

430 Comcast owns the team, the content creator (NBC) and they care the content provider (Cable co/ Internet co) and host their competition (netflix, etc) over their infrastructure.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:50 PM (BoMuO)

431 I may have been in Ar Kansas with a Slingblade but I got to shag Angela Jolie.

Posted by: Billie Bob Thorton at September 27, 2017 02:50 PM (6dFYM)

432 It's worse than that. They will push it on you in the name of "Walkable" cities. Say goodbye to backyards or frontyards, or to auto mobility, since they want you to ride around on a unicycle.
Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 02:40 PM (ujg0T)

------------

It's part of the UN's Agenda 21. Become aware of it.

Posted by: Soona at September 27, 2017 02:50 PM (ZAAkQ)

433 If you won't be my salty dog, then I won't be your man at all,

Honey let me be your salty dog.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (2wRtc)

434 Falcons are going to lock arms (wings?) this weekend and want the fans to do the same.

I predict a lot of middle fingers.

They still don't get it, the Jerry Jones "Solomon cut the baby" method isn't going to fly.

Posted by: Meremortal, No Way Out NFL at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (3myMJ)

435 I was so excited seeing an ad for Sling Box "a la carte" cable. Guess what is automatically included in Sling Box's new "a la carte" channel line-up? ESPN.

Posted by: Clark at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (0+wdz)

436
1. Opie and the bully

BABY TALK BABY TALK ITS A WONDER YOU CAN WALK

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (CxqAd)

437 427 You know who is fully supportive of Al A Carte?

Juan McLame.
---------------------------------------------

He just used that stance to extort donations from Disney. He never meant a word of it. #UnbundleThatDangCable!

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (LISuA)

438 353 I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard. The neighbors are pissed, but Argentinian TV comes in crystal clear.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (BoMuO)
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Can you get boobs with a setup like that?

Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (8aWIY)

439 >>>Of course though Comcast does own NBC. And so it "forces" people to buy their channels, like MSNBC, CNBC, USA.

true... I think the wait out for them here is that they need some competitors in the same market and nothin close to a monopoly hold on cable delivery. If they have viable competitors, I think they can get away with this. No "tying" violation without monopoly or near-monopoly hold.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (8rNrN)

440 408 Goober, Gomer, Floyd, Harold and Barney were annoying as heck.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:42 PM (uLuPn)



Harold?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:46 PM (493sH)

Howard. Oopsie.

Posted by: ALH at September 27, 2017 02:52 PM (uLuPn)

441 I'm getting fiber optic soon ... they have a TV option but only limited packages. I'm wondering how the "commies" market to the providers to force such limited options.

This is the 'point of sale' or point of coercion where some kind of anti-trust is perhaps in order. Why not let me pay for the channels I want, a la carte? Is there some technical reason I can't do that, or is it the commies in the political stream that force feed their commie stations?

With tech advances, I'm thinking it is merely the providers wanting to sell the add ons, and/or being offered a bulk package by some higher up shadow commie in the system.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:52 PM (yKAUL)

442 I hooked an ancient rabbit ear antenna to my new TV and got 70 stations.

How many were English language stations?
Posted by: Deplorable male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:31 PM (lKyWE)


70 was after I removed the non-English & Televangelist stations. I did keep the European programs, but they usually have english subtitles.

Seriously had no idea there's so much OTA stuff. Find it to be too much.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:52 PM (q3DpH)

443 Goober, Gomer, Floyd, Harold and Barney were annoying as heck.


Who was the 'yeah huh, yeah huh, yeah huh guy'?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2017 02:52 PM (QQ+il)

444 431 I may have been in Ar Kansas with a Slingblade but I got to shag Angela Jolie.
Posted by: Billie Bob Thorton at September 27, 2017 02:50 PM (6dFYM)

HMMM HMMMPPPP

Posted by: Billie Bob Thornton, Method Actor at September 27, 2017 02:52 PM (RD7QR)

445 >>.I was so excited seeing an ad for Sling Box "a la carte" cable. Guess what is automatically included in Sling Box's new "a la carte" channel line-up? ESPN.

in their Orange package, yes, but I think it's not present in their Blue package, which is probably what you want anyway (as it delivers a signal to three different tvs simultaneously -- orange only delivers to one Tv).

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:53 PM (8rNrN)

446
Would the Andy Griffith show get made now? I vote no.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM


Maybe if Helen Crump married Thelma Lou.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2017 02:53 PM (IqV8l)

447 Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:45 PM

The Sling add ons are mostly junk IMHO.
I doubt you need the Kid one. The news one is mostly NBC channels. And most of the rest are highly specialty stuff. (Like sports.

The HBO add on costs exactly what my cable company was charging for HBO ($15/month.) The only real downside is a lot of cable providers threw Showtime in with HBO (but I dumped them both anyway.)

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 02:53 PM (dzmBR)

448 they work great. Cheap, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:38 PM (SRKgf)

We got rid of the Amazon version because it simply sucked.

The Roku we replaced it with is fast, the interface is much better, and it is quite robust...we never lose signal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 27, 2017 02:53 PM (wYseH)

449 I do not have ESPN on Sling

Posted by: DJ at September 27, 2017 02:53 PM (1c5KN)

450 Falcons are going to lock arms (wings?) this weekend and want the fans to do the same.

I predict a lot of middle fingers.

They still don't get it, the Jerry Jones "Solomon cut the baby" method isn't going to fly.

Posted by: Meremortal, No Way Out NFL at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (3myMJ)



Aaron Rogers of the Fudge Packers asked Green Bay fans to do the same thing on Thursday because of equality and unity and causes

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:54 PM (493sH)

451 434 Falcons are going to lock arms (wings?) this weekend and want the fans to do the same.

I predict a lot of middle fingers.

They still don't get it, the Jerry Jones "Solomon cut the baby" method isn't going to fly.
Posted by: Meremortal, No Way Out NFL at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM (3myMJ)

Pretty hard to put hand over heart and link arms at the same time.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:54 PM (yL25O)

452 But I don't think that will work for me. I'm on a lowish floor surrounded by taller buildings. Also, I don't have a window that is convenient to the TV *and* looks out at the nearest TV mast.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:23 PM (8rNrN)

++++

If you have a place to put the antenna, even if it is nowhere near the TV, then an HDHomeRun might be your solution.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GY0UB54

As long as you have a way to receive the signal, this device should be able to get it to your TVs.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 27, 2017 02:54 PM (pvjTE)

453 O/T

A very good article about the Puerto Rico situation at Conservative Treehouse is linked in my nic. The left is REALLy pushing the "puerto Rico is Trumps Katarina" crap.

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 27, 2017 02:55 PM (9Ej78)

454 ESPN today.

CNN tomorrow.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 02:55 PM (wo3jg)

455 Presdent Obama should do something about this so that persons of coler ar54e not hurt because of Trump's policies against ESPN. Trump lied amd persons of color lives have died.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 27, 2017 02:55 PM (WmgTn)

456 Rush's caller says Rush predicted the left would go after the NFL....and that is all true. What makes it so wild is that the useful idiots are the players, ESPN, AND the castrati!

Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2017 02:55 PM (6dFYM)

457 Would the Andy Griffith show get made now? I vote no.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM



Maybe if Helen Crump married Thelma Lou.
==

Or Jim "Gomer" Nabors made out with special guest star Rock Hudson on Andy's porch.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:55 PM (2wRtc)

458 Wait wait wait. Tell me really slowly and in words of one syllable how you did this. Our wireless has gone to pot in the last year and Verizon is not helpful.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 02:41 PM (UoSKV)



OK. I took a piece of cardboard about two feet long, bent it in the middle into a shallow V-shape, and taped aluminum foil to it to cover the surface.

Then I place the contraption next to the wireless router, and on the neighbor's side of the router. The aluminum foil reflects the microwaves from the router back into our house, and away from the neighbors.

If you really want to optimize the signal* pick up a WiFi analyzer from the Google Play store (for Android, of course), so you can actually measure the wifi signal strength, and thereby optimize the position of the contraption.

* We previously had picked up a TP-link range extender, which helped a lot, but adding the contraption put the signal in the house through the roof.

If you get a range extender - which I recommend - be sure to place it relatively closer to the router rather than farther away. A strong incoming signal to the range extender works a LOT better than a weak one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:56 PM (SRKgf)

459 Maybe if Helen Crump married Thelma Lou.
==

Or Jim "Gomer" Nabors made out with special guest star Rock Hudson on Andy's porch.
_____________________________________

Or Otis ran a meth lab out of Floyd's barber shop.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 02:56 PM (wo3jg)

460
Maybe if Helen Crump married Thelma Lou.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2017 02:53 PM (IqV8l)



Only after Barney insisted they have an open relationship

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 02:56 PM (lKyWE)

461 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:56 PM (SRKgf)

The cardboard is about 2' X 1' in dimensions.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 02:56 PM (SRKgf)

462 Would the Andy Griffith show get made now? I vote no.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:48 PM




If "nip it in the bud" meant a sex change operation.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:57 PM (493sH)

463 Aaron Rogers of the Fudge Packers asked Green Bay fans to do the same thing on Thursday because of equality and unity and causes


You done messed up A-ARON!!!

Posted by: substitute teacher at September 27, 2017 02:57 PM (RzUqr)

464 Who the hell was Gomer Pyle shagging? Sgt. Carter?

Posted by: torabora at September 27, 2017 02:57 PM (6dFYM)

465 434; the same thing the corncob packers are doing tomorrow. they want the fans to join their shitshow. fuck you aaron rodgers. i don't need your social feelings shoved down my throat. arrogant asshole.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (KP5rU)

466 I get 146 channels on my thirty year old Radio shack rooftop antenna, when I learn Spanish, Chinese, Korean and other assorted languages I will be able to take full advantage. Otherwise it is probably only 70 or so English language stations.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (6Ll1u)

467 The Love that Dare not Say its Name between Floyd the Barber and Opie would be much more developed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (k1TUh)

468 441 I'm getting fiber optic soon ... they have a TV option but only limited packages.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 02:52 PM (yKAUL)

....

google fiber is laid in our street as of last December or so.

Zero word on when the actual hookup to the home is.

But they have exactly one option for TV and that's the whole enchilada so forget that.

Have never had a cable bill in my life, actually, not going to start now.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (yL25O)

469 Mad Maxine Waters says Trump's FL Tweets are an impeachable offense. What a loon!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (iVOAv)

470
google fiber is laid in our street as of last December or so.
==

It's NotEvil.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (2wRtc)

471 Maxine Water's face is a hanging offense.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2017 02:59 PM (k1TUh)

472 >>>If you have a place to put the antenna, even if it is nowhere near the TV, then an HDHomeRun might be your solution.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GY0UB54

As long as you have a way to receive the signal, this device should be able to get it to your TVs.

...

Thank you! I was searching for exactly that kind of device -- is the idea that it picks up the signal from a window, then sends the signal through wi-fi to tvs throughout the place?

I was actually JUST ABOUT to specifically ask if this sort of thing existed. I tried searching Amazon but didn't know what to call it.

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:59 PM (8rNrN)

473 Jesus H. Christ.

If you asked Terry Bradshaw, Bart Starr, Dick Butkus, Kenny Stabler or Deacon Jones to link arms with their teammates, you would have had your ass handed to you.

Today's football players are pussies and kumbaya kampers.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 02:59 PM (wo3jg)

474 463; yes. aaron just dropped his pants, and shit all over every packer fan there are. dicount double shithead.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 03:00 PM (KP5rU)

475 Walt Disney's ESPN, under scrutiny as it works its way through subscriber losses, said it would reorganize the executives who supervise its overall content production.

But aren't they doing exactly what Disney ordered? So what good would "scrutiny" do? Or is it just language to reassure shareholders?

Apart from that, it's kind of funny that Disney would rather go through all this turmoil and angst rather than dial down the liberal crap.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 27, 2017 03:00 PM (/qEW2)

476 Jesus H. Christ.

If you asked Terry Bradshaw, Bart Starr, Dick Butkus, Kenny Stabler or Deacon Jones to link arms with their teammates, you would have had your ass handed to you.

Today's football players are pussies and kumbaya kampers.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 02:59 PM (wo3jg)



After last Sunday, I'm not so sure about Bradshaw

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 03:00 PM (493sH)

477 About 7 or 8 years ago I met this shady character who used a local cafe as his "office." He was the front man for a hacker network which had figured out how to hack the DirecTV cards to allow free and unlimited access. (I think the actual coders were in Germany). For only $25, he claimed, he would supply me with a hacked DirecTV card -- all I had to do was insert it into a DirecTV receiver and I would get not only the base package but the entire raw feed, at no additional cost.

The problem is, it was up to me to supply my own satellite dish and DirecTV receiver.

Well, by chance, a few months later someone was throwing out both those things in a dumpster as they were moving out of their house, so I scavenged the dish and the receiver, and after some procrastinating went up on the roof and bolted the dish down and with the help of online instructions pointed it in the general vicinity of the satellite. The I ran a cable down in through the window and plugged it into the receiver.

THEN I went back to the guy at the cafe where he was still doing his undercover business selling these hacked cards. Knowing I could be be getting ripped off, but just on a whim and for the fun of it decided to gamble to $25 anyway, I bought one from him.

Took it home, turned on the receiver, stuck in the card, and -- BAZOOMBA HOLY COW!! it worked!

Not only did it work, but it worked better than I could even have imagined, because not only did I get ALL channels of ALL kinds, but I got them IN EVERY TIME ZONE, so I could basically watch anything in existence at whatever time I wanted. I mean EVERYTHING -- Tagalog soap operas, pay-per-view, The Badminton Channel, porn --- if it was broadcast, I got it. EST, CST, PST, Hawaii time, Guam time. The raw feed. Unfiltered.

That lasted about a year before suddenly it all stopped. I went online and discovered that DirecTV had performed one of its occasional "upgrades" where they mail out new cards to everyone and changed the scrambling algorithm. All the old cards were rendered useless.

I went back to the guy and he said that this is to be expected, happens periodically, and it will take the German dudes a few weeks to crack the new algorithm - - which will cost me another $25 for another card.

By then I had become bored with cable TV, and didn't buy the new one.

That was the only time I ever "had cable." It was an interesting experiment, at least.

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 03:00 PM (DQ4Fv)

478 Aaron Rogers of the Fudge Packers asked Green Bay fans to do the same thing on Thursday because of equality and unity and causes

***

yeah, it is funny that the NFL and their dimwit blue checkmark sportswriter fanbois (we can has be smart too!) think that last weekend's protests were spot on because the NFL was attacked by trump and this is what they need to focus on during the anthem. I still can't believe Florio at the end of SNF said that shizz with a straight face.

so, what is it you're in unity with? The fans fucking hate the kneelers. You're giving credence to the kneelers by supporting them and emulating them. Trump reflected this zeitgeist and you have no sympathy in pretending you're under attack.

so what is the point of linking arms? Now it's to say we're united against trump attacking us? WHAT?

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 27, 2017 03:00 PM (XhN8Z)

479 470
google fiber is laid in our street as of last December or so.
==

It's NotEvil.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (2wRtc)

...

Turns out evil is cheaper and 10x + times faster than time warner.

sold.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (yL25O)

480 Bless you, Jay! Thank you. We have tried a range extender, and knew to position it fairly close, but it didn't seem to help. My son ordered another one to try so we will see about that one.

Thing is, it all worked perfectly until about a year ago. This is Verizon FIOS. And then it started dropping everywhere in the house, and constantly throwing us off WiFi on our phones, which makes us go over data. And of course it's a pain for our computers.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (hPipu)

481 My dream is to disconnect completely.

Maybe build a DVD library for rainy nights, and future visiting grandkids.

But no connectivity. Just trees, birds and waves.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (2wRtc)

482 473: wouldn't be too sure about bradshaw. that boy aint right.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (KP5rU)

483 Aaron Rogers of the Fudge Packers asked Green Bay fans to do the same thing on Thursday because of equality and unity and causes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 02:54 PM (493sH)

This is the "compromise" they have come up with to try to find a way out of the mess.

It's not going to work.

Stand at attention, face the flag, preferably with hand over heart and for sure no helmet on, period.

Posted by: Meremortal, No Way Out NFL at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (3myMJ)

484 Re: Cord cutting.

I recommend going back to the original thread, I was sort of the original source there:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/369635.php

DON'T COMMENT ON OLD THREADS!

Since then, some updates. Sling offers Cloud DVR for an additional $5 a month. DirecTV Now is on Roku now.

We kept Sling instead of cancelling it because the On Demand services are about 20x better. More availability, sooner, it just works better. On DirecTV Now it takes longer for the latest in a series to show up in On Demand, and there are fewer episodes (usually). Lots of buffering and errors. But, there are more channels.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (jHrzU)

485 Our wireless from Comcast is godawful, it barely works right next to the router. I want to buy a modem and replace it because I'm sure its a cheap piece of crap, but I don't have the green right now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (39g3+)

486 Let liberals start getting fired for their views and they may start having some second thoughts. If they don't, we're just evening the playing field, because they're already firing conservatives for their views."



Agree. After almost one year, and continued biased reporting, I have no illusion they are going to come to their senses. They are on their own little jihad to destroy America. They don't think of it that way, they think they are being righteous, but it is what they are doing.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:02 PM (q3DpH)

487 I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (BoMuO)
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Can you get boobs with a setup like that?
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2017 02:51 PM


If you bench with religiously, yes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 27, 2017 03:02 PM (ctuyM)

488 395 332 There are at least five must see Gilligans Island episodes.

1. Mary Ann and Ginger do it
2. Mary Ann and Ginger do the Professor
3. Gilligan fucks up an escape
4. Gilligan fucks up another escape and is given a blanket party
5. Gilligan admits he fucks up the escapes on purpose because Mary Ann and Ginger are doing him

Posted by: charley horse at September 27, 2017 03:02 PM (+kahX)

489 The GOP cannot pass any major legislation. Period.

The usual suspects won't be intimidated by Moore's win!

The people who CAN be scared straight aren't the problem. What is McConnell (or anybody else) supposed to do about McPain: Paul; Collins et al? (Pls don't say "shoot them" or something else equally dumb).

The GOP is gonna have to wait for a new hand to be dealt.

Posted by: mnw at September 27, 2017 03:02 PM (SNwMD)

490 so what are they in unity of?

anti-trump? no thanks.

anti-cop? mmmm, not this time.

What are they linking arms for, exactly?

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 27, 2017 03:03 PM (XhN8Z)

491 Aunt Bee would have to be a serial murderer.

Charming, but still a serial murderer.

"Oh, Flora, of course I'm okay with you taking my place in the church choir."

*fires up chain saw*

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 03:03 PM (wo3jg)

492 Thing is, it all worked perfectly until about a year ago. This is Verizon FIOS. And then it started dropping everywhere in the house, and constantly throwing us off WiFi on our phones, which makes us go over data. And of course it's a pain for our computers.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (hPipu)


I use wireline adapters for the TVs.

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 03:03 PM (jHrzU)

493 356----I am still most pissed off about their behavior in England. I wonder how many people know about that. Even if the NFL thing here doesn't faze them, I think that would.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (q3DpH)
--------------------------------------
THIS.

I have a very apolitical brother who was just mildly annoyed by the kneeling stuff but is absolutely LIVID about that. I've never seen him so angry.
Dissing the flag on foreign soil. And then standing in respect for the UK anthem.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2017 03:04 PM (0jtPF)

494
If you asked Terry Bradshaw, Bart Starr, Dick Butkus, Kenny Stabler or Deacon Jones to link arms with their teammates, you would have had your ass handed to you.


Could you imagine Chuck Knoll telling Jack Lambert to hide in the tunnel at Three Rivers Stadium during the National Anthem?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 27, 2017 03:04 PM (lKyWE)

495 Tom Price is gonna get canned.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 03:05 PM (2wRtc)

496

After last Sunday, I'm not so sure about Bradshaw

_____________________________________

Back before the dementia and 27 years of painkillers took its toll.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 03:05 PM (wo3jg)

497 465 434; the same thing the corncob packers are doing tomorrow. they want the fans to join their shitshow. fuck you aaron rodgers. i don't need your social feelings shoved down my throat. arrogant asshole.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 02:58 PM (KP5rU)

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If this has been pre-announced, then why even go to the stadium? Empty seats make a much larger statement than anything else.

Posted by: Soona at September 27, 2017 03:05 PM (ZAAkQ)

498 All football players need to take a knee...to the groin.

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 03:06 PM (DQ4Fv)

499 Could you imagine Chuck Knoll telling Jack Lambert to hide in the tunnel at Three Rivers Stadium during the National Anthem?

***

that's the problem with the idiot sportswriter bluecheck mafia...most players only have these idiots as they're lifeline to outside world contact. So, if Michael Wilbon tells you cops are killing blacks and america sucks, and oh by the way, the fans stand in unity with the nfl players against trump's obscene comments...

then against what reality can you check this nonsense?

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 27, 2017 03:06 PM (XhN8Z)

500 If this has been pre-announced, then why even go to the stadium? Empty seats make a much larger statement than anything else.
Posted by: Soona at September 27, 2017 03:05 PM (ZAAkQ)

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Because they are cheeseheads, they will attend, hell or a -12 below blizzard.

Posted by: auscolpyr at September 27, 2017 03:07 PM (suO/a)

501 Of course I will link arms.

I will link your arms with your legs and kick your hippy ass down the street like a bag of hair.

Posted by: Dick Butkus at September 27, 2017 03:07 PM (wo3jg)

502 I have a 12 foot C band satellite dish in the front yard. The neighbors are pissed, but Argentinian TV comes in crystal clear.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (BoMuO)


I loved my big ugly dishes.

I had two of them. Then I moved. To a city/HOA that had this clause in the HOA agreement.

*sigh*

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 03:07 PM (s5o+q)

503 Dear NFL, revert to protocol Pre Kap stunt or don't bother. I am not interested in ANYTHING that suggests Mike Brown was a metaphor for anything other than "Don't resist arrest"

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 27, 2017 03:07 PM (z4cjb)

504
anytime you go upside a man's head.. or a womans...

Posted by: Deacon Jones at September 27, 2017 03:07 PM (r+sAi)

505 THEN I went back to the guy at the cafe where he was still doing his undercover business selling these hacked cards. Knowing I could be be getting ripped off, but just on a whim and for the fun of it decided to gamble to $25 anyway, I bought one from him.

----------------------------------

In order to get those DirecTV cards to reprogram, somebody had to steal those cards from the boxes at the store that had the receivers/dishes/cards in them.

That crime became apparent when somebody would buy a receiver/dish/card at the store, bring it home, and there was no card in the box. So they had to get on the phone to DirecTV and complain, wait for a new card, etc. Happened to a couple of acquaintances of mine.

I think nowadays with the much more sophisticated receiver addressability, that that particular scam is history.

Posted by: Boots at September 27, 2017 03:07 PM (EBwPV)

506 ick your hippy ass down the street like a bag of hair.
Posted by: Dick Butkus


Swoon!

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 03:07 PM (DQ4Fv)

507 ick = kick

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 03:08 PM (DQ4Fv)

508 If this has been pre-announced, then why even go to the stadium? Empty seats make a much larger statement than anything else.

Why are teams "announcing" the players will all be standing this week. Hhmm.

Great then I don't need to tune it. Not that I was going to.

Posted by: substitute teacher at September 27, 2017 03:08 PM (RzUqr)

509
I use wireline adapters for the TVs.
Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 03:03 PM (jHrzU)
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Please excuse my ignorance, but do you mean for FIOS to get to the tv? Because we don't have that. We just use FIOS for internet and landline. We use an antenna for the tv - never had cable/dish/whatever, never will.

Although it's a Smart tv so would that adapter help for things like watching YouTube and Netflix? Because the stupid wifi does cause problems with that.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (hPipu)

510 I saw a pic the other day of a team kneeling, and one guy had his hand over heart, head up & eyes closed.

Made me think he really didn't want to do the kneel but felt he had to. This was before the new attempts to have it both ways being floated around.

What a bunch of poppycock.

Will it fly? Not for me b/c I know it is only for show. But it might be enough for others.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (q3DpH)

511 Well then, how about everyone simply calls their cable company and cancels their service. When they get to the department of last resort where they beg, plead, and whine with you to keep your service simply say you do not want espn.

Then cancel anyway.

You can always crawl back to them in a month if you cannnot make it without your metv.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (0wem/)

512 Not sure about Bradshaw? He is a swamp denizen. Money does that. To everyone.

People who make that kind of money can't afford not to be liberal.

Posted by: charley horse at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (+kahX)

513 There are at least five must see Gilligans Island episodes.
1. Mary Ann and Ginger do it

2. Mary Ann and Ginger do the Professor

3. Gilligan fucks up an escape

4. Gilligan fucks up another escape and is given a blanket party

5. Gilligan admits he fucks up the escapes on purpose because Mary Ann and Ginger are doing him
Posted by: charley horse at September 27, 2017 03:02 PM


What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Mrs. Thurston "Lovey" Howell, III at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (ctuyM)

514 This is why cockholsters like Pops should keep their fucking mouths shut. They're parasites living large off people who are forced to pay for shit (ESPN) that they don't even watch.
Posted by: mr tmz at September 27, 2017 01:57 PM (m/Gc2)


I can't believe how much of an ignorant dicknose Pops has been on this. I used to like him and Kerr but they've left me no choice by going full retard on this. They're like the NRO of head coaches.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (y7DUB)

515 I will post web sites where you put in your zip and they will tell you what antenna will best serve you, what reception you will receive, and approx what channels you may expect. BBS

Posted by: gNewt at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (IHoII)

516 Besides ESPN there are a number of others I would junk if we had a la carte.Comedy Central,Sundance Channel,Bravo,Oxygen,Hallmark,whatever that fag channel is called etc

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:10 PM (rmVvL)

517 5 Must-See Brady Bunch episodes:

1. Marcia Gets Bopped in the Nose by a Football
2. Johnny Bravo!
3. Buddy Hinton the Bully
4. Everybody Goes to Hawaii and Gets Scared by Vincent Price

5. Greg and Marcia Do the Nasty on the Orange Shag Carpeting

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 03:10 PM (ul9CR)

518 Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (hPipu)


Problem with my extender is it sets up a separate network ([network name]-EXT.) 2 in fact since I run a 5Ghz network in my house.

Once WiFi Mesh comes down in cost I'm going to move that that. It's more seamless. I shouldn't have to honestly (I could probably just move my router closer to the center of the house.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 03:10 PM (dzmBR)

519 >>>Monday night NFL ratings were UP 3% from last year

Ace has yet to correct

Has he (Brian in NO?) been banhammered as I can't find the original comment?

If it is Brian, as others pointed out to you a couple of days ago, dippy, last season's game was on the same date was the night as one of the Trump debates that's the reason for the difference not that the NFL is doing great this season let alone that stupid, divisive Trump is being repudiated by the huge number of "fuck you, Trump" viewers tuning in.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 27, 2017 03:11 PM (mJ8mX)

520 Michigan State Police head shared a facebook post that said NFL players who protest during the national anthem are "Anti-American degenerates"

Just another of the white women voters who voted for Trump I suspect

NO ABSOLUTION!!!

Posted by: Hillary Rodham at September 27, 2017 03:11 PM (RzUqr)

521 497, 500, packer fans are as stupid as the aforementioned bag of hair. i won't be watching those window licking fucksticks. i haven't watched a basketball game (college or pro) since larry bird retired. i sure as shit won't miss the nfl and their race baiting bullshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 03:11 PM (KP5rU)

522 fuck up your own business model ESPN and NFL. I favor it because I don't like you guys anymore. at all. can't wait for academia blow their brains out this weekend with college football, the only thing keeping America from wanting to burn the colleges down these days.

Posted by: x at September 27, 2017 03:11 PM (nFwvY)

523
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Mrs. Thurston "Lovey" Howell, III at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (ctuyM)


Sometimes you smell that way

Posted by: The Skipper at September 27, 2017 03:12 PM (lKyWE)

524 so what are they in unity of?



anti-trump? no thanks.



anti-cop? mmmm, not this time.



What are they linking arms for, exactly?
---
The protest is in support of BLM, whose position, based on when it protests, is that blacks have a unique right to rob and beat their neighbors, and kill/try to kill cops, with impunity.

That's what the NFL choose to be counted with.

Posted by: Methos at September 27, 2017 03:12 PM (XQvuQ)

525 519 >>>Monday night NFL ratings were UP 3% from last year

Ace has yet to correct
Has he (Brian in NO?) been banhammered as I can't find the original comment?

If it is Brian, as others pointed out to you a couple of days ago, dippy, last season's game was on the same date was the night as one of the Trump debates that's the reason for the difference not that the NFL is doing great this season let alone that stupid, divisive Trump is being repudiated by the huge number of "fuck you, Trump" viewers tuning in.


**********


wow, 3% bump.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 27, 2017 03:12 PM (XhN8Z)

526 >>Would the Andy Griffith show get made now? I vote no.

Only if it portrayed the Mayberry hicks ironically. Throw in a New Yorker to snark and enlighten them on how things are done in the city...

Can you believe "Touched by an Angel" was ever a network tv show?!?
I don't think any channel other than a Christian one would dare air the reruns today.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:13 PM (W+vEI)

527 516 Besides ESPN there are a number of others I would junk if we had a la carte.Comedy Central,Sundance Channel,Bravo,Oxygen,Hallmark,whatever that fag channel is called etc
__________________________________

Actually, Hallmark has been showing "Last Man Standing" reruns and outpolling some of the other channels you listed.

Posted by: Dick Butkus at September 27, 2017 03:13 PM (wo3jg)

528 My local team (The Bills) Facebook page comments are blowing up. I imagine that's the case with all the teams.

It's like they're fighting a new War Between the States in there.

The worst of the worst are the virtue-signalling whites.

With everybody these days smearing themselves in copious amounts of virtue lotion, it's getting harder for them to stand out without going into Super-Signalling Mode.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (ul9CR)

529 495 Tom Price is gonna get canned.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 27, 2017 03:05 PM (2wRtc)

Trump brought him on to help with healthcare. Thought he would manage the process even though he was part of the Establishment.

He, along with the GOPe, screwed the pooch. Healthcare is dead. Doesn't need him anymore.

He'll get someone who will shake up HHS.

Posted by: WisRich at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (G0vdT)

530 I would like to take this opportunity to let everyone know the Texans all stood for the anthem at Foxboro last week. I wouldn't have known and had even asked about it and then one of the Comical's sportswriter mentioned her disappointment about it.

Oh, and Bob McNair was the NFL's largest Trump donor. $4.5 million so there's that too.

Posted by: DanMan at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (XTiHL)

531 What are they linking arms for, exactly?
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 27, 2017 03:03 PM (XhN8Z)

They hate cops because cops defend themselves against dangerous criminals.

They are trying to find a way out, but there is none without total capitulation. They can stand on their heads, it doesn't matter.

Everyone knows exactly how to behave during the national anthem.

Posted by: Meremortal, No Way Out NFL at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (3myMJ)

532 527 Yeah but they mostly run the worst,estrogen soaked tv movies that will make you grow tits just watching ten minutes...

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (rmVvL)

533 packer fans are as stupid as the aforementioned bag of hair. i won't be watching those window licking fucksticks. i haven't watched a basketball game (college or pro) since larry bird retired. i sure as shit won't miss the nfl and their race baiting bullshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 27, 2017 03:11 PM (KP5rU)



That's a big part of the problem. Fans who no matter what will still blindly suck the teams' ass. I read some Steelers fans were doing the old Sgt. Schultz and pretending nothing happened so they could still worship the overpaid dirtbags.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (493sH)

534 Aunt B, fires up the phonograph. 'Rock Around the Clock' plays as she dances into the bathroom and pulls on a heavy plastic poncho.

'Say, Barney, do you like Bill Hailey and the Comets?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (fA1SL)

535 Thank you! I was searching for exactly that kind of device -- is the idea that it picks up the signal from a window, then sends the signal through wi-fi to tvs throughout the place?

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 02:59 PM (8rNrN)

++++

It uses wifi. You just put your antenna wherever you can to get a good signal, and then hook this thing up to it.

I should caution that I have never tried this myself. I was looking into getting one in the last place I lived, but I moved, so no need.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (FUu/Z)

536 What would be seriously cool is if after the spoiled brat players get done kneeling for the National Anthem, a significant percentage of the (dwindling) stadium crowd began singing the fourth stanza of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

In the beauty of the lilies, Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me.
As he died to make men holy, let us live to make men free,
While God is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.


Shove it right back in their faces.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (s5o+q)

537 You could always wrap a hobo in aluminum foil and copper wire to use as your antenna.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 27, 2017 03:15 PM (XFue2)

538 In order to get those DirecTV cards to reprogram, somebody had to steal those cards from the boxes at the store that had the receivers/dishes/cards in them.

That crime became apparent when somebody would buy a receiver/dish/card at the store, bring it home, and there was no card in the box. So they had to get on the phone to DirecTV and complain, wait for a new card, etc. Happened to a couple of acquaintances of mine.

I think nowadays with the much more sophisticated receiver addressability, that that particular scam is history.
Posted by: Boot


Actually, I think these were "cloned" cards -- they didn't have any DirecTV logo on them or anything. They must have figured out how to buy the cards in bulk and clone the signal descrambling code onto them. Way over my head, technology-wise. But I really doubt they were pilfering them one by one from the boxes in the store.

Yes, I later read, after a few years, that DirecTV had ultra-souped-up its scrambling code security to make the cards essentially unhackable. Don't know if the German dudes ever could hack the new system. Probably not. I haven't seen that guy in years. Now he's probably selling those little scanners that allow you to download the contents off the drive of any passing cell phone within wifi reach. (Which is how various starlets and celebrities got their nude pictures hacked off their phones, apparently.)

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 03:15 PM (DQ4Fv)

539 Please excuse my ignorance, but do you mean for FIOS to get to the tv? Because we don't have that. We just use FIOS for internet and landline. We use an antenna for the tv - never had cable/dish/whatever, never will.

Although it's a Smart tv so would that adapter help for things like watching YouTube and Netflix? Because the stupid wifi does cause problems with that.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:09 PM (hPipu)


To get internet signal to the TV. Most smart TVs or boxes have Wifi but I have a SmartTV that the Wifi sucks on - so I use a wireline adapter (box that plugs in your electrical outlet and sends signal over the wires in the house - one box is by the router and a network cable plugs into the cable router, one box by the TV and then from it with a network cable to the TV)

Like this:

http://preview.alturl.com/j8vkq

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 03:15 PM (jHrzU)

540 this is a $31 amplified antenna from Ebay ... for rural people, or even in the city, might work in an attic. I bought other stuff that didn't work so well, like some you might put right by the set. Elevation matters ... and amplification matters. anyway ... rather than pay dish or whoever for local stations, this works, and works feeding right into the antenna outlet on the DISH DVR. Even gives program info ... pretty seamless.

http://tinyurl.com/y8p6d7e6

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 03:15 PM (yKAUL)

541 Can you believe "Touched by an Angel" was ever a network tv show?!?
I don't think any channel other than a Christian one would dare air the reruns today.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:13 PM (W+vEI)



Me TV started running it on Sunday nights.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 03:16 PM (493sH)

542 I actually built one antenna up on my roof for my basement TV.

Once I get a line amp for it it should receive as well as the he store bought one.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2017 03:16 PM (uqdlV)

543 Actually, Hallmark has been showing "Last Man Standing" reruns and outpolling some of the other channels you listed.

They also do the Waltons which i enjoy... They do a lot of weepy women's TV movies but they always have a moral and mention God in them...

Posted by: Barack the God King at September 27, 2017 03:16 PM (O2RFr)

544 I went to one of those websites that tell you what channels you can get where you live, it told me that I should not expect to get any channels. I get 146, take that for what it's worth.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 27, 2017 03:16 PM (6Ll1u)

545 433. Mortimer - disappointed

The position of Mr. & Mrs. Salty Dog is currently filled. However, I'll look at your offer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2017 03:17 PM (hyuyC)

546 516 Besides ESPN there are a number of others I would junk if we had a la carte.Comedy Central,Sundance Channel,Bravo,Oxygen,Hallmark,whatever that fag channel is called etc



Which of these things is not like the others? Hallmark, dare I say, is arguably the TradCon Channel.

Comedy Central, with the obvious exception of South Park, is left, of course. :-(

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:17 PM (ujg0T)

547 Ah, thank you blaster! I'm making a big list of all this stuff and shall present it to my hubby this weekend. This will be one honey-do list he won't mind.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:17 PM (hPipu)

548 >>Me TV started running it on Sunday nights.

Nice!

(Um, what is Me tv?)

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:17 PM (W+vEI)

549 493 356----I am still most pissed off about their behavior in England. I wonder how many people know about that. Even if the NFL thing here doesn't faze them, I think that would.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 02:39 PM (q3DpH)
--------------------------------------
THIS.

I have a very apolitical brother who was just mildly annoyed by the kneeling stuff but is absolutely LIVID about that. I've never seen him so angry.
Dissing the flag on foreign soil. And then standing in respect for the UK anthem.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2017 03:04 PM (


I find it incredibly frustrating it hasn't broken through the noise on Twitter or Tracebook, or on other Right Leaning Media.

It is such a huge slap in the face to the whole USA. Unprecedented really. The British press reported it. But it seems like mostly crickets here.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:18 PM (q3DpH)

550 Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 03:15 PM

Amplification can be counter productive if you live to close to the signal. (Which is my problem. I'm too close for amplification since the signal comes in strong 80-90% of the time, but has interference occasionally.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 03:18 PM (dzmBR)

551 Ah, thank you blaster! I'm making a big list of all this stuff and shall present it to my hubby this weekend. This will be one honey-do list he won't mind.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:17 PM (hPipu)


Look on Amazon for similar product with an outlet on it - that way you don't lose an outlet when you plug it in!

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 03:18 PM (jHrzU)

552 Are you saying the rent is too damned high?

Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2017 03:18 PM (2z74n)

553 I can't worry whether other people I have no control over choose to ignore the anti American actions of the NFL. If their ratings go up 50% it's not going to cause me to give up and change my position. Go along to get along is a trigger that makes me do the opposite. Sometimes with consequences. It would make this temporary life easier though.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 03:19 PM (N7KlP)

554 528 My local team (The Bills) Facebook page comments are blowing up. I imagine that's the case with all the teams.
____________________________________

Of all football cities, I think Buffalo is the most patriotic. Hands down.

It is a conservative city and while some liberal morons (no thanks to the university crowd) have been elected, both Republicans and Democrats from there are pretty conservative. The people are proud and hardworking.

I know that this kneeling shit is not going over very well in Buffalo. Those players better knock this shit off when they come to Orchard Park.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 03:19 PM (wo3jg)

555 The dad from the Walton's is a full on commie I think.Or was.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:19 PM (rmVvL)

556 I will give Meremortal my proxy for comments on this topic, he nailed it from the start. No way out ....

WhatWhatWhat, making me laugh here - "virtue lotion"

Posted by: Rhomboid/willow at September 27, 2017 03:19 PM (s0ICk)

557 >>Dissing the flag on foreign soil. And then standing in respect for the UK anthem.

Wait 'till the next Olympics...

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:19 PM (W+vEI)

558 480 Bless you, Jay! Thank you. We have tried a range extender, and knew to position it fairly close, but it didn't seem to help. My son ordered another one to try so we will see about that one.

Thing is, it all worked perfectly until about a year ago. This is Verizon FIOS. And then it started dropping everywhere in the house, and constantly throwing us off WiFi on our phones, which makes us go over data. And of course it's a pain for our computers.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:01 PM (hPipu)



Thank you. I recommend experimenting with one of the wifi signal monitoring apps. It'll help you to figure out what's going on, and how to position things for best results. An hour or so of monkeying around with the configuration, while you monitor the results with the app, now that you've got an objective measure of signal strength, should help a lot.

Why, yes, I am a researcher. Why do you ask?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (SRKgf)

559 The dad from the Walton's is a full on commie I think.Or was.

The Grandpa was ...

Posted by: Barack the God King at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (O2RFr)

560
I think it is a good dicussion that everybody should know they can probably get a least one local station OTA with very little effort just in case the commie govt ever decides to shut down the internet or you know a hurricane.

Posted by: Deacon Jones at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (r+sAi)

561 Is this where I can get my bag of hair?

Posted by: Maxine Waters at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (wo3jg)

562 whatever that fag channel is called
Posted by: steevy


It's called simply FAG -- the official name is Freaks And Gays Network.

Posted by: zombie at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

563 Nice!

(Um, what is Me tv?)

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:17 PM (W+vEI)



Me TV is a station that runs old TV shows. The even have some episodes of some TV shows on their website

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (493sH)

564 555 The dad from the Walton's is a full on commie I think.Or was.
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:19 PM (rmVvL)




He's dead now, but yah, a lot of them were. At least back then they had the sense to keep it under wraps.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (ujg0T)

565 559 Will Geer right?Yes he was but I think the other guy was too.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (rmVvL)

566 Of all football cities, I think Buffalo is the most patriotic. Hands down.


That rat fvck Shady McCoy's antics were among the worst last Sunday.

But there are plenty of SJW's screaming bloody murder in there too. It looks to be about 50-50 on each side.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 03:21 PM (ul9CR)

567 The GOP cannot pass any major legislation. Period.

The usual suspects won't be intimidated by Moore's win!

The people who CAN be scared straight aren't the problem. What is McConnell (or anybody else) supposed to do about McPain: Paul; Collins et al? (Pls don't say "shoot them" or something else equally dumb).

The GOP is gonna have to wait for a new hand to be dealt.
Posted by: mnw at September 27, 2017 03:02 PM (SNwMD)


in one of the links I read today, I think from Instapundit, I read that piece 5 Reasons Why Moore's Win Matters kausfiles

this little tidbit was maddening

Alabama Mad: Before Tuesday's Alaabama Republican senatorial primary, Chamber of Commerce strategist Scott Reed said his organization had gone "all in" for incumbent Luther Strange in order to "remind [ populist ex-Trump aide Stephen ] Bannon who's in charge,"

Mission Accomplished! The Chamber's candidate lost in a 55-45 rout to Bannon's candidate, Roy Moore, a former judge once regarded as too much of a religious zealot to make it all the way to the U.S. Senate.


holy cow. if that doesn't say it all

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2017 03:21 PM (fceHP)

568 Here we go:

http://preview.alturl.com/etvgy


TP-Link AV1200 Powerline Adapter, Gigabit w/ Power Outlet Pass-through, Up to 1200Mbps

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 03:21 PM (jHrzU)

569 WhatWhatWhat, making me laugh here - "virtue lotion"
Posted by: Rhomboid/willow at September 27, 2017 03:19 PM (s0ICk)

I gotta be honest (I'm no Amy Schumer) I lifted that from Roger Simon.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (ul9CR)

570 Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:18 PM (q3DpH)

If you get a chance, ask a foreigner visiting or if you're visiting a foreign country what they think the percentage of the US population is Black.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (N7KlP)

571 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.

Posted by: Rhomboid/willow at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (s0ICk)

572 The protest is in support of BLM, whose position, based on when it protests, is




Fuck. The. Cops.

THAT is their protest.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (lwpdV)

573 Why, yes, I am a researcher. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (SRKgf)
-----------

Do you make house calls? Ever come to the DC area for work/vacation?

Thank you for all this - we are desperate to try anything. The only other option is to go back to Comcast for our internet provider and not only no but hell no.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (UoSKV)

574 Grandpa Walton was Will Geer, a bisexual commie.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (uqdlV)

575 He's dead now, but yah, a lot of them were. At least back then they had the sense to keep it under wraps.

The stories were so "wholesome" for lack of a better word...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (O2RFr)

576 window licking fucksticks
window licking fucksticks

window licking fucksticks!

Posted by: Sesame Street O'Spades at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (NF2Bf)

577 Dammit

Posted by: Sesame Street O'Spades at September 27, 2017 03:23 PM (NF2Bf)

578 Thank you. I recommend experimenting with one of the wifi signal monitoring apps. It'll help you to figure out what's going on, and how to position things for best results. An hour or so of monkeying around with the configuration, while you monitor the results with the app, now that you've got an objective measure of signal strength, should help a lot.

Why, yes, I am a researcher. Why do you ask?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM (SRKgf)


If you've got a Mac (I know, I know) there's a workable wifi monitor built in.

Go to the wifi icon in the top bar, hold down OPT and select, and do Open Wireless Diagnostics.

For more, tune to your local Internet search engine for details.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 03:23 PM (s5o+q)

579 The blog ate me lucky spaces!

Posted by: Sesame Street O'Spades at September 27, 2017 03:23 PM (NF2Bf)

580 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:20 PM

I used to be and just gave up dealing with.
(I know what the problem is actually I skimp on a router and mine has shitty antennas in it.)

As for the TV, I still have a little bit of a coax left coming off the side of my house. I should just tap into it and rehang my antenna. The new digital ones are a lot smaller and would probably not even be visible from ground.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at September 27, 2017 03:23 PM (dzmBR)

581 490 . They're going to debut their AB FAB Rockettes imitation?

Posted by: kallisto at September 27, 2017 03:23 PM (n6gcM)

582 .. Now he's probably selling those little scanners that allow you to download the contents off the drive of any passing cell phone within wifi reach. (Which is how various starlets and celebrities got their nude pictures hacked off their phones, apparently.)
---------------------------

Which is why one should always keep one's wifi off, particularly the "Ask To Join Networks", feature, when out in public.

Not that I have any nudie pix on my phone, my pix are all pretty boring to outsiders - lots of pix of my food bc I love to cook and recreate dishes from restaurants.

Posted by: Boots at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (EBwPV)

583 Good news everybody!

Verizon and Comcast had been bombarding us for years to cut our copper wire and sign up. We've always resisted because we didn't want cable. As in none. They always refused to give it to us at a price we could afford.

A few months back, my wife even called Verizon and asked if they had any way they could sell us phone / internet alone, and they said, "fuck no, you gotta bend over for us, bitch."

Last month, a nice lady came to the door with the offer. We signed up with Verizon's "Double Play" service. Phone, and 50/50 internet for about $60 a month. We're on month to month contract, and in August 2018, we can call them and see if we can sign up for two years under this plan.

It may still go pear-shaped, of course, but the saleslady told us the new CEO was intent on reversing the company's shitty image and this was the first step.

Suck it, ESPN / NFL! Lick your balls and beg!

Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (3oWDC)

584 Um, what is Me tv?)

Memorable
Entertainment
Television


It shows a lot of the older TV shows.
I think there is a metv.com website where you can see if you get in your area & the schedule.

There is also Cozi TV which is similar.

More and more of these are popping up b/c they are popular, esp. with families. Can let kids watch the Brady Bunch or watch Columbo as a family. W/o SJW crap.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (q3DpH)

585 www.antennaweb.org/

https://lifehacker.com
/how-to-choose-the-best-over-the-air
-antenna-for-free-hd-1569752514

http://www.antennasdirect.
com/blog/10-digital-tv-antennas/


These sites locate where the broadcast towers in your local are and give advice on what type of antenna is best for your location.

Posted by: gNewt at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (IHoII)

586
If you get a chance, ask a foreigner visiting or if you're visiting a foreign country what they think the percentage of the US population is Black.

,........

My wife couldn't believe it was only 12%.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (uqdlV)

587 532 527 Yeah but they mostly run the worst,estrogen soaked tv movies that will make you grow tits just watching ten minutes...
Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:14 PM (rmVvL)



And ovulating after 15 minutes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (SRKgf)

588 571 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.

Posted by: Rhomboid/willow at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (s0ICk)

At least they can be BYOW.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (N7KlP)

589 574 Funny thing is I saw him an episode a Mission:Impossible where he was in charge of a whole town full of communist sleeper agents.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:25 PM (rmVvL)

590 549 493 356----I am still most pissed off about their behavior in England. I wonder how many people know about that. Even if the NFL thing here doesn't faze them, I think that would.

remember the time Usain Bolt was being interviewed by an Italian reporter (I think) - he stopped the interview during the medal ceremony for another athlete. It happened to be US anthem but it sure makes these pukes small in comparison (my 2 cents)

Posted by: subsitute teacher at September 27, 2017 03:25 PM (RzUqr)

591 The usual suspects are kinda intimidated by Moore's win, actually. They are concerned that this indicates a wave next year of their asses being handed them for failing on their 6 year promise of repeal if given power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2017 03:25 PM (39g3+)

592 I can up my FIOS which is currently a 75/75 service to FIOS Gigabit service (kinda - 940/700) for just $40 a month.

Thinking about it....

Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (jHrzU)

593 >>>
I went to one of those websites that tell you what channels you can get
where you live, it told me that I should not expect to get any channels.
I get 146, take that for what it's worth.
.
.
.They say I can expect to get three channels at Over the Air, CBS, Mynet (whatever that is) and a Fox broadcast which is probably correct as I live 70 miles northeast of Dallas in the middle of nowhere.

The other site, Station results, says I will get just two, CBS and NBC.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (+Dllb)

594
Can you believe "Touched by an Angel" was ever a network tv show?!?
I don't think any channel other than a Christian one would dare air the reruns today.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:13 PM


It's on MeTV Sunday

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (IqV8l)

595 Mission Accomplished! The Chamber's candidate lost in a 55-45 rout to Bannon's candidate, Roy Moore, a former judge once regarded as too much of a religious zealot to make it all the way to the U.S. Senate.

holy cow. if that doesn't say it all
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2017 03:21 PM (fceHP)




Could it be Bannon left the Trump Administration for a higher purpose? (I know, it is too easy to claim Teh Donald is always playing muti-dimensional chess, but....)

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (ujg0T)

596 if Sweden joins NATO it cannot maintain their precious neutrality

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (QC/4S)

597 More and more of these are popping up b/c they are popular, esp. with families. Can let kids watch the Brady Bunch or watch Columbo as a family. W/o SJW crap.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September



By families you mean retired children whose parents live with them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (0wem/)

598 >>It shows a lot of the older TV shows.

I think there is a metv.com website where you can see if you get in your area the schedule.

Thanks!! Will check it out.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (W+vEI)

599 The other site I go to has a international following ( but mostly from English speaking countries but not all). A question came up about this NFL protest and if it is real. I wrote yesterday confirming it is. Didn't go see today if its there.

Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (ghofu)

600 /its precious/

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 03:27 PM (QC/4S)

601 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.
----------------------------

What, so when the muzzie invaders have fully taken over their country, they'll expect the USA to show up in battle gear and take it back for them? No.

Posted by: Boots at September 27, 2017 03:27 PM (EBwPV)

602 If you've got a Mac (I know, I know) there's a workable wifi monitor built in.

Go to the wifi icon in the top bar, hold down OPT and select, and do Open Wireless Diagnostics.

For more, tune to your local Internet search engine for details.
Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 03:23 PM (s5o+q)



The reason I suggested the wifi app is that you can load it onto a phone or tablet and walk around the house, checking signal power.

It's actually kind of fascinating to watch, and we can also see the (weak) signals from the rest of the neighborhood.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:27 PM (SRKgf)

603 It shows a lot of the older TV shows.
I think there is a metv.com website where you can see if you get in your area & the schedule.

There is also Cozi TV which is similar.

More and more of these are popping up b/c they are popular, esp. with families. Can let kids watch the Brady Bunch or watch Columbo as a family. W/o SJW crap.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:24 PM (q3DpH)




Those are the only stations I watch any more. Along with Antennae TV, Heroes and Icons and if Decades TV has a good weekend marathon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 03:27 PM (493sH)

604 Sweden probably has as many muslims as Turkey now

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (QC/4S)

605 543---They do a lot of weepy women's TV movies but they always have a moral and mention God in them...
Posted by: Barack the God King at September 27, 2017 03:16 PM (O2RFr)
-----------------------------------
And unlike on Lifetime, the moral of the Hallmark dramas is not invariably feminist, i.e., women=victims,men=oppressors.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (0jtPF)

606 Be funny if someday ESPN dropped the NFL.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (/qEW2)

607 601 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.
----------------------------

What, so when the muzzie invaders have fully taken over their country, they'll expect the USA to show up in battle gear and take it back for them? No.
Posted by: Boots at September 27, 2017 03:27 PM (EBwPV)



Yeah, no. We'll take the hot Swedish women as refugees. The rest of them are on their own.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (SRKgf)

608 603 Yep,me too.Along with TCM for some old movies.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (rmVvL)

609 Perry Mason and Cloumbo are the only shows anyone needs.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (0wem/)

610 571 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.

Posted by: Rhomboid/willow at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (s0ICk)

Turkey is bad enough. We don't need a SECOND Muslim Country in NATO.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (9TK8E)

611 We really need to run another "How to cut the cable" thread on a Saturday, like we did many months ago.

Announced on the side bar ahead of time.
Morons set aside time to come here, and exchange ideas, and ask questions.

Hell, I cut the cable a long time ago, and I still learned stuff that day, interacting with other Morons.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 27, 2017 03:29 PM (EyPfd)

612 Can you believe "Touched by an Angel" was ever a network tv show?!?

It barely got on TV to begin with. The story of how that got onto broadcast is pretty interesting in its self. The network tapped a Christian writer working at the place for a show, but they wanted a goofy comedy that was pretty insulting to faith of any kind. She turned it into a vaguely spiritual show about angels that was a faithful as she could get a secular channel to allow.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2017 03:29 PM (39g3+)

613 596 if Sweden joins NATO it cannot maintain their precious neutrality
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (QC/4S)



Sure they can. They'd just burn us, that's all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:29 PM (SRKgf)

614 571 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.

Posted by: Rhomboid/willow at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (s0ICk)



They need someone to fight the coming war. Head of Army said 2 years ago, iirc, that war was coming in 2 years. So, there's that.

Sweden could never win a civil war....Arabs would.

Some people, including me, worry the EU expects us to dig them out again when the multicultural tinderbox explodes over there. I say no. This is not WW 2. This is a suicide mission they are on.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:29 PM (q3DpH)

615 By families you mean retired children whose parents live with them.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (0wem/)



A liberal has two useless children who are doing the Orson Welles, viz., living their lives backwards, by starting out retired.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM (SRKgf)

616 Trump on stage in Indy.

Posted by: Tami at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM (Enq6K)

617 ure they can. They'd just burn us, that's all.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

yeah right, lol

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM (QC/4S)

618 The reason I suggested the wifi app is that you can load it onto a phone or tablet and walk around the house, checking signal power.

It's actually kind of fascinating to watch, and we can also see the (weak) signals from the rest of the neighborhood.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:27 PM (SRKgf)


I'm in a subdivision, surrounded by neighbors who all themselves have multiple wireless transmitters.

Every once in a while, I have to fire it up and pick new channels for my wifi boxes, because my stuff was sitting on (for instance) channel 6 and now neighbor's ultra-mega-high-power blaster has decided that IT wants channel 6.

Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM (s5o+q)

619 This week will be the week of locking arms.

Another Yuge mistake. There may be fistfights in the stands if certain fans start emulating that as the Packers are requesting.

Posted by: Meremortal, No. Way. Out. NFL. at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM (3myMJ)

620 614 Some people, including me, worry the EU expects us to dig them out again when the multicultural tinderbox explodes over there. I say no. This is not WW 2. This is a suicide mission they are on.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:29 PM (q3DpH)

Considering that Pharaoh Obeyme littered the military with MoBro operatives, what makes them think we're going to stop the Muzzie Hordes?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 27, 2017 03:32 PM (9TK8E)

621 Yep,me too.Along with TCM for some old movies.

Posted by: steevy at September 27, 2017 03:28 PM (rmVvL)



TCM is running a lot of movies I wouldn't consider classic. There is a movie station called Retro that plays good movies. I think last Sunday they had on 55 Days at Peking.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2017 03:32 PM (493sH)

622 596 if Sweden joins NATO it cannot maintain their precious neutrality
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (QC/4S)




Why now? The Old Soviet Union used to regularly violate their airspace and territorial waters with fighter jets or submarines probing.

For what it is worth, Sweden DOES have conscription, and always has had a substantial armaments industry, like Switzerland.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:32 PM (ujg0T)

623 nood up

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 27, 2017 03:32 PM (PNcou)

624
Trump on stage in Indy.
Posted by: Tami at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM


Local Indianapolis radio talked to the LONE PROTESTER outside the speech. He said somebody had to stand up to Fascism!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 27, 2017 03:33 PM (IqV8l)

625 614
Some people, including me, worry the EU expects us to dig them out again when the multicultural tinderbox explodes over there. I say no. This is not WW 2. This is a suicide mission they are on.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:29 PM (q3DpH)


And we've got our own tinderbox to worry about.

Posted by: rickl at September 27, 2017 03:33 PM (xjiRE)

626 The thing about ESPN is that, if you stop watching the NFL, you aren't going to need to watch talking heads talking about it. So they become.expendable, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 27, 2017 03:33 PM (uqdlV)

627 >>She turned it into a vaguely spiritual show about angels that was a faithful as she could get a secular channel to allow.


I've only seen episodes from its final season (started watching when I was without cable) and was intrigued by how it didn't take the easy way out and give you happy endings (e.g. angel just keeps Chinese prisoner company as she's beaten to death by guards). Also, it always had a moment where the angel says "God loves you!" Considering what a cesspool network tv has been for years it was quite a surprise to hear that line again and again, unironically.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 27, 2017 03:33 PM (W+vEI)

628 Mission Accomplished! The Chamber's candidate lost in a 55-45 rout to Bannon's candidate, Roy Moore, a former judge once regarded as too much of a religious zealot to make it all the way to the U.S. Senate.

The layer of anger and frustration under the seemingly calm surface of much of America is very real. Furious is a good way to put things. I keep reading this from town hall events: "boy people are really torqued off out there"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2017 03:34 PM (39g3+)

629 I'm 1/4 Swedish ( grandfather came here by himself as a teen). It shouldn't but it bothers me that part of my DNA is related to these socialists. I claim only the bad ass Viking genes.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 03:34 PM (N7KlP)

630 Some people, including me, worry the EU expects us to dig them out again when the multicultural tinderbox explodes over there. I say no. This is not WW 2. This is a suicide mission they are on.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla


Liberals have such a strong attachment to their delusions, they will never take off their rose colored glasses without an object lesson.

If Sweden provides that object lesson, and causes other nations to get 'woke', perhaps it will be for the best.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 27, 2017 03:34 PM (/qEW2)

631 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.
----------------------------

What, so when the muzzie invaders have fully taken over their country, they'll expect the USA to show up in battle gear and take it back for them? No.
Posted by: Boots at September 27, 2017 03:27 PM (EBwPV)


the US should ask for back pay

$billions from their little horde of money to the US, and let them beg

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2017 03:34 PM (fceHP)

632 Every once in a while, I have to fire it up and pick new channels for my wifi boxes, because my stuff was sitting on (for instance) channel 6 and now neighbor's ultra-mega-high-power blaster has decided that IT wants channel 6.
Posted by: filbert at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM (s5o+q)


I did that too. Using the app, I realized that we were broadcasting on the same channel as some of the neighbors. I moved our router out to channel 11, where we're all alone. That helped performance also.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2017 03:34 PM (SRKgf)

633 Why now? The Old Soviet Union used to regularly violate their airspace and territorial waters with fighter jets or submarines probing.

For what it is worth, Sweden DOES have conscription, and always has had a substantial armaments industry, like Switzerland.
Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:32 PM (ujg0T)


or...their socialist state is collapsing - those "refugees" are not cheap, and they want to subsidize their defense

Posted by: runner at September 27, 2017 03:34 PM (QC/4S)

634 619 This week will be the week of locking arms.

Another Yuge mistake. There may be fistfights in the stands if certain fans start emulating that as the Packers are requesting.
Posted by: Meremortal, No. Way. Out. NFL. at September 27, 2017 03:31 PM (3myMJ)

Hell, a few years ago I almost got the crap beat out of me at a dirt track race because my father's wife's (second wife. My mother is long dead) thug-ass son (who came because my father insisted on taking HIS son) refused to take his hat off for the anthem, and I was to be held responsible by association.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 27, 2017 03:35 PM (9TK8E)

635 Some people, including me, worry the EU expects us to dig them out again when the multicultural tinderbox explodes over there. I say no. This is not WW 2. This is a suicide mission they are on.

We should give them an offer-- we bail them out (again), but then we're in charge.

Or we just take their oil.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 27, 2017 03:35 PM (u0s1P)

636 Actually, Hallmark has been showing "Last Man Standing" reruns and outpolling some of the other channels you listed.
Posted by: Dick Butkus at September 27, 2017 03:13 PM (wo3jg)


Hallmark is great.

So far it hasn't been tainted by the left's stink

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 27, 2017 03:36 PM (fceHP)

637 "Amplification can be counter productive if you live
to close to the signal. (Which is my problem. I'm too close for
amplification since the signal comes in strong 80-90% of the time, but
has interference occasionally.

Posted by trslbke

good point ... weak signal needs the amplification from the antenna to the TV (50' or whatever). If you already have the strong signal ... I forget but think that can be dialed down. It can on some amplifiers at least.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 03:36 PM (yKAUL)

638 Could it be Bannon left the Trump Administration for
a higher purpose? (I know, it is too easy to claim Teh Donald is always
playing muti-dimensional chess, but....)

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (ujg0T)

Sure seems that way.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 27, 2017 03:37 PM (tbOMB)

639 571 OT, Sweden hinting it wants to join NATO.

This may be the most hilarious development in foreign policy since, hmm, don't know when.

Posted by: Rhomboid/willow at September 27, 2017 03:22 PM (s0ICk)

=======

I remember reading an article somwhere that detailed the horrific degree to which their miltary has decayed. During the cold war their military was built much like Finland's: to basically bleed any invader dry using the local climate and landscape. Combined with a Navy and Airforce that punched well above its weigh and you have a country that could feasably defend their neutrality. Now? They're so weak that the Russians overfly their airspace and trespass in their waters at will. They're horribly underequiped and undermanned. So them wanting to join NATO makes sense. Cheaper than rebuildng the military the Social Democrats and Greens destroyed over the last few decades. It'd be stupid to let them in without hard assurances that they'd put a shitload of money into rebuilding. Which ain't happening under a "feminist" SD/Green government. Now Finland, they'd be a net positive if they joined. A nation of honeybadgers, they are.

Posted by: Jackal at September 27, 2017 03:37 PM (UsVwX)

640 Gilligan's Island Talk reminded me of the Honey Bees Clip.

If you haven't see, worth it.

Esp. Mrs. Thurston Howells dancing.

And if you love Ginger & Mary Ann, they move pretty well.

It's a lol hoot, IMO

http://tinyurl.com/ybzvvfjz

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 27, 2017 03:37 PM (q3DpH)

641 A visit to DTV page showed a question at the top of the list about dropping and how to drop ESPN and cancelling the subscription.Looks like the NFL killed the Goose what laid the golden egg for a lot of future football players in College and High school.Ban Football.

Posted by: obsidian at September 27, 2017 03:37 PM (ARK2U)

642 638 Could it be Bannon left the Trump Administration for
a higher purpose? (I know, it is too easy to claim Teh Donald is always
playing muti-dimensional chess, but....)

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (ujg0T)

Sure seems that way.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 27, 2017 03:37 PM (tbOMB)

========

It's like I said yesterday: he's still Trump's chief strategist, he just doesn't have an office in the West Wing anymore. Which gives TGE plausable deniability. Trump's probably texting him regularly on burner phones.

Posted by: Jackal at September 27, 2017 03:39 PM (UsVwX)

643 Perhaps the source of the problem is Disney. They seem to be a SJW organization. Disney pushes the occult at kids. It owns ABC Family and one of the shows, Pretty Little Liars, was certainly NOT family oriented.

I would not let my kids watch Disney when we had cable.

Leftists took over Disney apparently. May it suffer in its evil.

Posted by: Ranter Ranting at September 27, 2017 03:40 PM (eYack)

644 If this has been pre-announced, then why even go to the stadium? Empty seats make a much larger statement than anything else.
Posted by: Soona at September 27, 2017 03:05 PM (ZAAkQ)


It is going to be very interesting to watch because the people of Green Bay own the team. Yes, those doofuses freezing in the stands with a plastic block of cheddar on their heads are the owners.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Tailgate Special! Follies & Fulminations 50% Off at The Outrage Outlet! at September 27, 2017 03:42 PM (hLRSq)

645 Local Indianapolis radio talked to the LONE PROTESTER outside the speech. He said somebody had to stand up to Fascism!
________________________________

Kasich?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 03:43 PM (wo3jg)

646 Gilligan's Island Talk reminded me of the Honey Bees Clip.

If you haven't see, worth it.

Esp. Mrs. Thurston Howells dancing.

And if you love Ginger & Mary Ann, they move pretty well.

It's a lol hoot, IMO

http://tinyurl.com/ybzvvfjz
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September




Well the unfortunate thing is that the majority of the commenters here are old enough to at least think about whether Mrs. Howell is hot enough or look to her for style points.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:43 PM (0wem/)

647 "Furious is a good way to put things. I keep reading this from town hall events: "boy people are really torqued off out there"

Posted by Christopher

true dat ... but for perspective we must remember this is Alabama, not Kid Rock Michigan. Michigan is a union blue collar battle ... I hope Kid Rock is getting Palin and Ace and Bannon all counseling and developing his political savvy. His dirty underwear are already out there ... but still seems like an America First guy at heart.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 03:43 PM (yKAUL)

648 Would You Rather

Mary Ann, Ginger or Mrs. Howell?

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:44 PM (0wem/)

649 Posted by: Hikaru at September 27, 2017 03:35 PM (9TK8E)

Have you ever watched the movie The Stain? I don't know what reaction you would have to it but I'd be interested . It's the opposite of a happy movie but it's very thought provoking.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 27, 2017 03:44 PM (N7KlP)

650 You know who locks arms?

The U.S. Navy Seals at Coronado as they sit and stand in the cold surf.

I think the U.S. Navy should seek a restraining order against the NFL for cultural appropriation!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 03:44 PM (wo3jg)

651 Real men linking arms:

http://www.isaiahhankel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Navy-Seal-Training.jpg

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 27, 2017 03:46 PM (wo3jg)

652 Well the unfortunate thing is that the majority of the commenters here are old enough to at least think about whether Mrs. Howell is hot enough or look to her for style points.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:43 PM (0wem/)
---------

Last year on a radio talk show here they had a caller, and for whatever reason at the end they asked him "Ginger or Mary Ann?" And he said, "The older I get, the better Lovey looks!" They all got a laugh out of that.

Posted by: bluebell at September 27, 2017 03:47 PM (UoSKV)

653 647 "Furious is a good way to put things. I keep reading this from town hall events: "boy people are really torqued off out there"

Posted by Christopher

true dat ... but for perspective we must remember this is Alabama, not Kid Rock Michigan. Michigan is a union blue collar battle ... I hope Kid Rock is getting Palin and Ace and Bannon all counseling and developing his political savvy. His dirty underwear are already out there ... but still seems like an America First guy at heart.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2017 03:43 PM (yKAUL)

========

The pushback against the CoC, Soros, GOPe, et. al. is going to take different looks depending on the region. Moore makes sense for AL. Kid Rock makes sense for Blue Collar MI.

Posted by: Jackal at September 27, 2017 03:47 PM (UsVwX)

654 "If you asked Terry Bradshaw, Bart Starr, Dick Butkus, Kenny Stabler or Deacon Jones to link arms with their teammates, you would have had your ass handed to you. "

Heh.

Posted by: Big Daddy Lipscomb at September 27, 2017 03:48 PM (IHoII)

655 Well the unfortunate thing is that the majority of the commenters here are old enough to at least think about whether Mrs. Howell is hot enough or look to her for style points.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 03:43 PM (0wem/)




Believe it or not, Natalie Schafer actually WAS hawt back in the 1930s. She was already 60ish when Gilligan's Island aired.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 27, 2017 03:52 PM (ujg0T)

656 Cord cutting?
Works pretty well.

A few years back I had Dish and a $40-50 a month bill.
Cut everything except the DVR connection (used for OTA stuff) and paid just $5 a month.
After a year or two Dish wouldn't let me run that trick anymore and I cut it entirely.

If I didn't watch the show live, I'd just find a copy on the internet. You can watch most network shows a day after they air on one of the network web pages.

After I moved to tiny town, Texas I could only pick up 1 TV channel OTA. But I got the Big Bandwidth on the internet so I just DL the TV shows I want to watch the next day. No commercials, natch.

I had been watching network news on their webpage a few minutes after the show ended but a few months ago I got so disgusted by the bias I stopped watching even that and don't miss it.

Amusing that I have a 55" TV screen and their's hardly ever a live TV show on it. I just thumbdrive the shows I want to watch on it. Better quality than watching on the computer and less distracting. If I watch TV on the computer I tend to jump to another diversion. If I watch a TV show on the TV I focus better and enjoy the show.

Posted by: ArthurK at September 27, 2017 03:53 PM (AVMrq)

657 Ref using an antenna for local TV.

It was amazing in LA. I could get 80+ channels with a rabbit ear antenna. Most of them were perfect quality.

Posted by: ArthurK at September 27, 2017 03:56 PM (AVMrq)

658 Can we call this kneeling thingy Hey Fag Bake Me A Cake Cuz Feelings?

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 27, 2017 03:57 PM (YV+SU)

659 They say I can expect to get three channels at Over the Air, CBS, Mynet (whatever that is) and a Fox broadcast which is probably correct as I live 70 miles northeast of Dallas in the middle of nowhere.

The other site, Station results, says I will get just two, CBS and NBC.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 27, 2017 03:26 PM (+Dllb)
*************************************

The signal travels in a straight line and the earth curves away from it.

Posted by: Big Daddy Lipscomb at September 27, 2017 04:08 PM (IHoII)

660 Wanted Dead or Alive

Posted by: Big Daddy Lipscomb at September 27, 2017 04:10 PM (IHoII)

661
Believe it or not, Natalie Schafer actually WAS hawt back in the 1930s. She was already 60ish when Gilligan's Island aired.
Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September




Curmudgeon! You made it back home!

I do believe it. She is / was obviously attractive just hyper mature.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 27, 2017 04:13 PM (0wem/)

662 There are a lot of Youtube videos on making digital antennas. It looks like the only part you wouldn't find lying around the house is an "impedance-matching transformer", which is like a $5 dollar part.

Posted by: Max Power at September 27, 2017 04:22 PM (q177U)

663 109
Go to all the other articles on the site that do allow comments


Brilliant!

Posted by: I Must Conceal My Identity at September 27, 2017 04:27 PM (qkue/)

664 Cord cutting: look into Kodi


Posted by: brak at September 27, 2017 04:39 PM (WjCgM)

665 I'm a n00b-- can someone explain what I would use that passthrough port for?

Could I literally send TV signals through the electrical wiring with that device?

How would I get the signals to go *into* it?

Posted by: ace at September 27, 2017 04:45 PM (8rNrN)

666 I haven't read through everything, but as a true Moronette, there's no reason for me to let that stop me:

1) had Sling for about 4 months; couldn't watch anything all they way through without waiting, particularly on weekends. No similar problems with things that go through the Roku;

2) if you have Roku, check out Pluto TV. They have TV (the Slow Channel or whatever it is that is just a train going through random European countryside) and movies you can watch on demand. The only problem with the movies is that you get 1 or 2 commercials that repeat a zillion times;

3) I will randomly watch stuff via the OTA antenna that I got. Some of the higher number channels get pixillated at times. Well, by definition, I am wasting time, so I just find some other channel to watch.

I also have Netflix which I mostly watch on my phone. I have internet but that is primarily for my kid. I use the internet on my phone. If I wanted to invest time in it (horrors!), I would actually sign in to YouTube and make a list or something. I watched Zulu there some months ago, and it seems you can get some of the older films there.

Posted by: deplorable Texican (ette) at September 27, 2017 05:04 PM (CjE8v)

667 Amazon Firestick with Terrarium TV is better than Kodi by miles. Last three nights we watched old movies such as "Double Indemnity" and "The Apartment". Last night was "Barefoot in the Park". Tonight thinking of dialing up "High Society. It's Amazon Prime without the cost. It's Netflix,and Hulu without the cost. I highly recommend downloading it. YouTube has the 10 minute download step by step instructions. All u need is a $39 Firestick.

Posted by: Rockysan99 at September 27, 2017 05:09 PM (m7LQK)

668 Second City's traveling show is named "Look Both Ways Before Talking."

How apt.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 27, 2017 05:14 PM (xETi5)

669 Late to the party here, but I just love watching the ESPN meltdown. This is what happens when half the country thinks it can go full commie and to hell with the other half - all their shit starts breaking but this time they don't have the power to tell men with guns to come around and get all those damn subjects in line.

Posted by: ElKomandante at September 27, 2017 05:41 PM (56OVy)

670 Very late to the party. Tried 4-5 different over-the-air indoor TV antennas with little success. Based on the recommendation of a co-worker I purchased a Mohu Leaf antenna. We get great reception on all of the OTA local stations.

Posted by: long time lurker at September 27, 2017 08:47 PM (2exZW)

671 Watching men run around in tights is gay anyway...

Well looky here:
http://freebeacon.com/culture/lingerie-football-league-responds-to-nfl-we-stand/

Sweet Cheek Action!

Posted by: Ceasar at September 27, 2017 08:49 PM (x8dHd)

672 Late to this thread, but I've been cutting the cord recently so want to add my experiences. Some background - I live in South Jersey / Philly area, Verizon FIOS for internet/tv/phone for a little over $360/mo. Decided I had to stop the madness.

TV hardware - I bought 3 FireTV boxes ($99 ea). These allow me to stream anything to the TVs.

OTA TV - house already had an antenna, so I bought a Tablo (~$200 depending on model). Plugged antenna into Tablo. I now get 60 HD Philly channels. The Table has DVR and can stream to any device (Fire TV, mobile devices for me). Costs - one time purchase of Tablo.

Cable channels - there are many streaming services. They all have trials for a week or a month. I highly recommend you try each and make sure you and family members like the UI/Guide, channel selection, etc. I settled on PlayStation Vue for now with DirecTV Now in close second. Deciding factor was PSVue has DVR, DTVNow doesn't. PSVue is about $45/mo. Once DTVNow adds DVR, I will be switching - as an AT&T Wireless customer, I get HBO free and DTVNow is only $10/mo for more savings.

Movies - I have Amazon Prime ($99/yr) and Netflix ($10/mo). I could probably drop Netflix but other family members watch it.

Land lines - I'm in the middle of cutting the cord here. We have two land lines and because of older family members, can't just drop them. I bought an ObiHai 202 device (~$80). It allows me to plug the two house lines into it and use a VOIP service like Google Voice ($0).

In summary:
FIOS Internet only - $90/mo
Hardware - $300 one time
OTA/Tablo - $200 one time
PSVue streaming - $45/mo
movies - $20/mo
Land Lines - $80 one time
Total - $735 first mo, $155/mo after

I'll save another $35 mo when I switch to DTVnow in a couple of months. Also, everything is month to month, no commitments.

Posted by: DaSpider at September 28, 2017 08:13 AM (c/WyZ)

673 ChannelMaster makes an ota dvr. $249. Also tvfool.com can give you a good idea of the number, distance, and signal strength of tv stations available at your address.

Posted by: Spice at September 28, 2017 12:49 PM (rIgDj)

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