Shocker: Maine Socialist Susan Collins Will Vote Against Graham-Cassidy


Posted by: Ace at 07:43 PM




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1 No surprise. The bitch would vote against anything Republican even if it was the cure for cancer

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (auHtY)

2 *sniffs thread*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 25, 2017 07:43 PM (gIRsn)

3 Suzie took a knee.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 07:44 PM (INJFV)

4 top 10?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (YGF2X)

5 She & McPain were part of the Gang of 7 in 2005.

Posted by: mnw at September 25, 2017 07:45 PM (zCpUM)

6 Well, THERES a surprise

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at September 25, 2017 07:46 PM (tRMfD)

7 Ooh, top ten

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (tRMfD)

8 the GOPe has spent decades perfecting the spineless RINO and now that they have a chance to actually lead our country, they can't/wont.

this is my surprised face. Trump needs to hammer these scumbags flatter than dog shit in the middle lanes of the 405 freeway.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2017 07:47 PM (YGF2X)

9 Knock me over with a feather.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:48 PM (Mouru)

10 T10!

Posted by: Weasel at September 25, 2017 07:48 PM (Sfs6o)

11 Congress continues preparing its grave. Oh, maybe a larger Republican majority would come into office, thereby needing fewer compromises... please. Even if that was how it worked, multiple markets could collapse next year. Trivial games in the face of that is unconscionable.

Does give the Man on the White Horse room to maneuver though.

Posted by: trev006 at September 25, 2017 07:48 PM (4Vhe3)

12 Shocker!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (W+vEI)

13 This is my shocked face...

I know... it looks just like my normal face...

But.... really..... shocked that one of the people who GAVE us Obamacare... wants to keep it.

Posted by: Don Q. at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (NgKpN)

14 She's a Democrat.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (W+vEI)

15 Now, anyone want to predict how Murkowski will go?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (Mouru)

16 I wish McCain would have that kind of courage...

Posted by: Xeno at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (9bNq3)

17 She was pressured into maintaining her salary.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (2wRtc)

18 Yeah sure, I'll vote to cut taxes and spending, just as long as you give my state a bunch of money first.

And no promises for the future either, we'll need that in cash up front.

Posted by: GOP Senator at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (gDSJf)

19 old, senile, crusty, old bitch shits pants. what else is new? the world end yet. d.c. is as vile as the nfl.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (KP5rU)

20 All you hear in the MFM is the sportstalk of "x favors it, y opposes it" and I have never once heard the MFM say a single thing about exactly what is in the bill.

Posted by: filbert at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (s5o+q)

21 What, we were counting on that vote!

Posted by: GOPeeeeee at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (3myMJ)

22 We tried, people. God bless us, we tried.

*slumps into overstuffed chair and stares dejectedly*

Posted by: Mitch "Stonewall" McConnell at September 25, 2017 07:50 PM (Mouru)

23 She was never, evef going to be a yes.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (a7FXx)

24 What a "Maverick".

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 25, 2017 07:51 PM (6n332)

25 Also, after careful reflection I am willing to sign onto funding for a border wall, but only after every undocumented citizen in the nation receives full amnesty.

Pinkie swear on this one, guys.

Posted by: Susan Collins (R)INO at September 25, 2017 07:52 PM (Mouru)

26 maine, isn't that state full of moose knuckles? and dumbasses? just give it to canada.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (KP5rU)

27 So how does Collins propose to "fix" her laundry list of problems with Obamacare?
She obviously doesn't believe her state will care for these people. Wonder if her gov. is aware of that.

Trump said last year that maybe letting Obamacare totally fall apart was the best way to get rid of it. I don't know how you can in good conscience, keep fining people for not having insurance when there is none to buy, and without a repeal, that and the Obamacare taxes roll on. But with the Republican's in charge, Obamacare will NEVER be repealed.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (/Qs0S)

28 Seriously, why is she a republican? It's not as if Maine is a GOP stronghold & she has to run as a republican to get elected.

Posted by: josephistan at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (ANIFC)

29 Twitter has suspended Jim Treacher for sending the emojis "scissors - nut - nut - clown" to Chelsea Manning. That's brilliant.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2017 07:54 PM (5dOnv)

30 Golly.

What a surprise.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 25, 2017 07:54 PM (Z8R9P)

31 >>maine, isn't that state full of moose knuckles? and dumbasses? just give it to canada


And Somalis now, too?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:54 PM (W+vEI)

32 I think it's pretty chicken not to just go ahead and vote for these things and then read what's in them later, just like Obamacare. Come on Lady, give us our chance to f*ck it all up, again!

Posted by: goon at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (EaQ6/)

33 A Trump Tweet I'd like to see:

Be sure to ask your Sen. and Rep. about the best part of being exempt from Obamacare.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 25, 2017 07:55 PM (fZcVh)

34 31: yup, forgot about them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (KP5rU)

35 >>Twitter has suspended Jim Treacher for sending the emojis "scissors - nut - nut - clown" to Chelsea Manning. That's brilliant.

Oh my! Manning is sure into emojis - like a tween girl with her first cellphone.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (W+vEI)

36 GoP congress is not unlike the NfL. They have a product yhat people vote for/watch and they are just hell-bent on destroying it. Good. The sooner we can break this fever and rid ourselves of all pretense, the better.

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (67sg6)

37 History on Line 2...

Posted by: Garrett at September 25, 2017 07:56 PM (AoT+t)

38 Now, anyone want to predict how Murkowski will go?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (Mouru)

She would probably blow a leper if you gave her enough coke.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (O848g)

39 What's the downside to just getting Collins defeated by their friendly neighborhood Dem? At least then you know up front where you stand.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (5dOnv)

40 Maine is a poor state who prefer to externalize their health care costs to the rest of us.

No shocker there.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (wmaTe)

41 All this was was a fucking show. Fuck all these people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2017 07:58 PM (89T5c)

42 Have I mentioned that I view these people in less than a favorable light?

Posted by: Weasel at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (Sfs6o)

43 33 A Trump Tweet I'd like to see:

Be sure to ask your Sen. and Rep. about the best part of being exempt from Obamacare.

A-yup. That'd be something I'd like to hear answered.

Posted by: Parker at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (0waO5)

44 She would probably blow a leper if you gave her enough coke.


Keep the tip.

Posted by: The Leper at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (LTHVh)

45 So clearly we're not going to primary people like her, because everyones scared to death of going against their state party... so I'm seriously thinking we tank her, let a Dem win (no real loss), then try to run a real republican 6 years later.

Yeah, yeah, it's risky, but something has to give with these Super-RINOs.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (wmaTe)

46 She would probably blow a leper if you gave her enough coke.

Very close to a subplot in Stephen King's "It". Maine should send King to the Senate instead so they can do lines off each others' ass.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (6FqZa)

47 Big surprise.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (tbOMB)

48 What's the downside to just getting Collins defeated by their friendly neighborhood Dem? At least then you know up front where you stand.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 25, 2017 07:57 PM (5dOnv)

How about finding a stealth Conservative to run under the Dem banner, get elected, and then shift hard right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (O848g)

49 So, Obamacare falls apart. Under Trump's watch. With majorities in the House/Senate. Can a 3 dimensional chess player explain to me how that gets spun into the win column? Isn't there something that can be done to punish these "mavericks" from AK, ME, AZ?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (ty7RM)

50 Chainsaw. Visa. Here, baby Trudeau, the state of Maine? all yours

Posted by: JEM at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (3W8Vm)

51 Seriously, why is she a republican? It's not as if Maine is a GOP stronghold & she has to run as a republican to get elected.
Posted by: josephistan at September 25, 2017 07:53 PM (ANIFC)

Someone should ask McConnell why this shaky voiced cretin still has committee assignments.
She currently serves on the Intelligence Committee, Health Education, Labor and Pensions,
Appropriations Committee and the special Committee on Aging.

Her proudest accomplishments in Congress, according to her own website, is getting funding for Diabetes TRIPLED and getting funding for Alzheimer's increased.


Posted by: Jen the original at September 25, 2017 08:01 PM (/Qs0S)

52 I'm a little disappointed that Trump though there was a greater than 0% chance she wouldn't do this. Is he really this naive?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:01 PM (vyHiq)

53 How about finding a stealth Conservative to run under the Dem banner, get elected, and then shift hard right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (O848g)

I mean, even the D's in ME are pro-2A, fairly socially conservativish and things along those lines.

Yeah, we'd lose them on votes like repealing Obamacare and passing budgets we liked, but... would that really be a change from what we have now?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:01 PM (wmaTe)

54 Like Bob Menendez, the press keeps labeling her a Republican.

Can Trump exile all these No voting Congress Critters to Cuba so they can live and experience first-hand their utopian ideal of single-payer?

Posted by: ShainS at September 25, 2017 08:01 PM (mi1iB)

55 Keep the tip.

Posted by: The Leper at September 25, 2017 07:59 PM (LTHVh)

Shoulda known that was coming, LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:01 PM (O848g)

56 Congratulations, GOPe. You got the media boobs to talk about something other than NFL social justice preening.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 25, 2017 08:01 PM (tbOMB)

57 49 So, Obamacare falls apart. Under Trump's watch. With majorities in the House/Senate. Can a 3 dimensional chess player explain to me how that gets spun into the win column? Isn't there something that can be done to punish these "mavericks" from AK, ME, AZ?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (ty7RM)

AK and AZ have no excuse. ME is a welfare state full of retired massholes and unemployed pothead / heroin addict Maineiacs, so at least they have an excuse.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:02 PM (wmaTe)

58 Isn't there something that can be done to punish these "mavericks" from AK, ME, AZ?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (ty7RM)

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Punished by whom? McConnell? LOL. The Turtle is relieved that this bill won't pass.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (vyHiq)

59 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.

I'd like the know what kind of drug can produce that kind of psychosis, because I'd like to take it so I can wake up tomorrow believing that Christina Hendricks is my wife.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (+dsLj)

60 59 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.

I'd like the know what kind of drug can produce that kind of psychosis, because I'd like to take it so I can wake up tomorrow believing that Christina Hendricks is my wife.
Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (+dsLj)

Yes, before Trump we were all united in our love of Obama and our hate of BusHitler.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (wmaTe)

61
I'm a little disappointed that Trump though there was a greater than 0% chance she wouldn't do this. Is he really this naive?
===

God, you're tedious.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (2wRtc)

62 And I stand behind the Pittsburgh Squeelers.

Posted by: Sen. Jackie Collins at September 25, 2017 08:04 PM (Tyii7)

63

Yes you must name the actual party, not the pretend party. Most repubs in congress are to the left of center.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (r+sAi)

64 Can't Maine's kick ass take no prisoners governor run for Senate when he's term limited out?

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (N5dam)

65 59 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.

I'd like the know what kind of drug can produce that kind of psychosis, because I'd like to take it so I can wake up tomorrow believing that Christina Hendricks is my wife.
Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at September 25, 2017 08:03 PM (+dsLj)

Trump is just shining the light on the irreparable fractures that exist in our country. Divorce or civil war. It'll be one or the other. Let's just get it over with.

Posted by: josephistan at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (ANIFC)

66 in other news'; Water, still wet!

Posted by: random lurker commenter at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (dab45)

67 Now, anyone want to predict how Murkowski will go?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 25, 2017 07:49 PM (Mouru)

I would like to see Sarah Palin stop flitting around the country screeching at special election events and spend the time trying to fix her own damn state.
She can start with getting Murkowski out of the Senate.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (/Qs0S)

68 I think that she needs to get a little bigger letterhead so that we know that her mail is from someone important, and not just from an ordinary ol' communist.

Posted by: goon at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (EaQ6/)

69 I'm still shocked that this cunt and her BFF cunt from Alaska both voted for Gorsuch. But then again, he got 54 votes so their Yes votes didn't really matter. Had it come down to their votes, they probably would have voted NYET

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (vyHiq)

70 Has she Mainesplained if she's kneeling or standing?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 25, 2017 08:06 PM (UUvSq)

71 In case somebody had not already said it, this is all 100 percent kabuki. The GOPe never intended to stop ubamacare, much less change it in any way. And they damn sure don't mean to repeal it.

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (zLDYs)

72 ME and AK are similar in that there is a surplus of land, and shortage of producing people relative to the cost of their government. IOW, their Sen/Reps just get sent to the swamp to get their unfair share of free shit.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (ty7RM)

73 Well, when I arrived last night, mistakenly said all was well here at Casa de Peon in AJ. I spoke too soon, I guess. The toilet up and and died. The float valve quit working, so it just kept on filling, and filling....

And the seal between the tank and the bowl also failed, so when I flushed it, a lot of (fresh) water sprayed out on the floor.

So today, I took a previously-purchased one-piece Kohler toilet that I'd been saving for the "new" bathroom, and installed it in the old bathroom. And it works. So I am having a well-earned bottle of Coors.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (O848g)

74 59 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.

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That's VERY awkward if they realize what they're admitting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (UUvSq)

75 Breaking: Susan Collins takes a knee.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:08 PM (INJFV)

76 Remember once upon a time - December/January - how people were saying Dems from Trump states would vote with the GOP and getting 60 votes was not totally out of the realm of possibility?

Ahh good times, good times. Now the useless GOP can't even get 50 fucking votes on doing something they've promised to do for 8 years.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:09 PM (vyHiq)

77 Great opening to Tucker.

Worth watching at 10:00.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:09 PM (2wRtc)

78 Tell you what Senator, sign up for Medicaid yourself and we'll talk.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 25, 2017 08:09 PM (F0ZHr)

79 She and McCain and obstructionists...

Posted by: Lauren at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (EJJ5e)

80 Frankly, no act by Sen Collins would surprise me any more, unless she started actually representing her constituents.

They're all political weasels and swim in the swamp as deep as any Democrat. Pence tweeted that Graham-Cassidy fulfilled the GOP promise to "Repeal and Replace Obamacare". Funny but all I remember BEFORE Trump won, was multiple full REPEAL bills, all of which were doomed to fail because Obamacare would veto them the instant they hit his desk. Maybe my mind is failing, but I swear I don't think I ever heard the word REPLACE and Obamacare in the same sentence, until the scurrilous scum were finally in a position to actually do something good for the country with both houses and the Presidency!

In the words of the seemingly immortal Hillary Clinton, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (gwPgz)

81 64 Can't Maine's kick ass take no prisoners governor run for Senate when he's term limited out?
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at September 25, 2017 08:05 PM (N5dam)

LaPage is a clown. He's Chris Christie but with less crowded beaches.

I would not put any hope in to him.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (wmaTe)

82 Let me ask everyone...was there any doubt how Susan Collins would vote? If y'all thought any different, I've got some beach front property in Nevada to sell you!

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (ivy+W)

83 "Marrying" Christina Hendricks is not what I had in mind.

Posted by: goon at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (EaQ6/)

84 72 ME and AK are similar in that there is a surplus of land, and shortage of producing people relative to the cost of their government. IOW, their Sen/Reps just get sent to the swamp to get their unfair share of free shit.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (ty7RM)

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Idaho,, Montana, Wyoming are the same. But for some reason their sens/reps don't do that. So it's something specific to AK/ME.

Maybe it's because one is so far on the east and one is so far on the west of the country. Maybe there's some sort of imbalance or something.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (vyHiq)

85 PDTS ought to just come out and say that effective 1 October, everyone employed by the government is subject to Obamacare; elected officials included.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 25, 2017 08:11 PM (s28y4)

86 So today, I took a previously-purchased one-piece Kohler toilet that I'd been saving for the "new" bathroom, and installed it in the old bathroom. And it works. So I am having a well-earned bottle of Coors.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (O848g)

Is it one of those illegal 4 gallon toilets?

I had a buddy who (swear to god) used to smuggle those from Sherbrooke, QC down to the NYC area.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (wmaTe)

87 apparently, Susan Collins didn't get the memo that "standing with the team" is paramount.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (XlbwU)

88 District 1 insists that everything is great, and that we should be grateful for the Obamacare scraps they've tossed to us.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (ppaKI)

89 And they damn sure don't mean to repeal it.

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2017 08:07 PM (zLDYs)


Can you imagine the opportunities for graft available throughout one fifth of the economy?

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (gwPgz)

90 Trump will let OCare collapse. You can't say he didn't try to get a Repeal and Replace (MSM will say it, but won't be believed).

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (cAXIk)

91 87 apparently, Susan Collins didn't get the memo that "standing with the team" is paramount.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (XlbwU)

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She is standing with her team. The Socialists.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:13 PM (vyHiq)

92 Idaho,, Montana, Wyoming are the same. But for some reason their sens/reps don't do that. So it's something specific to AK/ME.

Maybe it's because one is so far on the east and one is so far on the west of the country. Maybe there's some sort of imbalance or something.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (vyHiq)

Maine is kind of easy to explain -- it is full of Masshole retirees. The native Mainers are an odd, insular bunch (no offense) who mostly work seasonal touristy jobs and smoke a ton of weed. Then there is also an opiate situation going on there.

The only reason it's sort of an R state is because they love guns, hunting, and all kinds of snowbilly things.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (wmaTe)

93 Is it one of those illegal 4 gallon toilets?

I had a buddy who (swear to god) used to smuggle those from Sherbrooke, QC down to the NYC area.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (wmaTe)

No, it's one I bought here at a yard sale for $25 last year. Have not given it the, uh, torture test, yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (O848g)

94 I know this is OT but I just thought of something and needed to run it by the Horde. If the NFL and teams are allowing the players to do this shit. Doesn't it kind of blow a hole in the Kaepernick is being blackballed for his protests theory?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (INJFV)

95 This is probably old news but I see that yesterday's hero has backpeddaled bigly. I guess we knew it was only a matter of time.

"Unfortunately, I threw (my teammates) under the bus, unintentionally," Villanueva said. "I made Coach Tomlin look bad, and that is my fault and my fault only. I made my teammates look bad, and that is my fault."

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (Tyii7)

96 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.

United. That means you conservative scum were shackled.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 25, 2017 08:15 PM (oVJmc)

97 Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 08:10 PM (ivy+W)

If you can guarantee flood insurance, I'm interested!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 08:15 PM (gwPgz)

98
Collins was expected, but if Moore squeaks it out in Alabama, watch the GOP Estabs support the Dem. They want no more Cruz types in the senate.

Just in case anybody needed anymore confirmation of their duplicity.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:15 PM (r+sAi)

99 Versailles on the Potomac Republicans.

Who needs enemies?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (oOYbM)

100 No, it's one I bought here at a yard sale for $25 last year. Have not given it the, uh, torture test, yet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (O848g)

Oh, okay. The 1.8 gallon toilets are actually pretty slick these days. Took about 20 years for the technology to catch up to the law, but I'm a big fan now.

I have 2 old 4 gallon toilets from the '70s in my house that I'm ready to replace. It takes fucking forever for the water to refill. The new ones are like magic. First thing I'm going to do is destroy my septic tank by flushing 19 golfballs down each one of them. Because the commercial says I can!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (wmaTe)

101 The only reason it's sort of an R state is because they love guns, hunting, and all kinds of snowbilly things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (wmaTe)

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I had a roommate in college who was from Maine. He called himself a Republican, but voted for Clinton (in 1996 when we were roomies) and thought taxes on the rich should be 75%. And holy fuck did he smoke a lot of weed.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (vyHiq)

102 How about finding a stealth Conservative to run under the Dem banner, get elected, and then shift hard right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:00 PM (O848g)

Hell, that's what those c@cksuckers are doing to us so good meet gander or whatever.

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (ivy+W)

103 And here I am stuck with Murkowski (D) Eff them all.

Posted by: Bosk at September 25, 2017 08:17 PM (IxW2v)

104 I don't often use the fuck word, but fuck her and all the rest of them...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 25, 2017 08:17 PM (O2RFr)

105 "Unfortunately, I threw (my teammates) under the bus, unintentionally," Villanueva said. "I made Coach Tomlin look bad, and that is my fault and my fault only. I made my teammates look bad, and that is my fault."


Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (Tyii7)



That sucks, I bet they are fucking with him over it. People are still gonna be pissed

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 25, 2017 08:17 PM (M+Lyo)

106 I had a roommate in college who was from Maine. He called himself a Republican, but voted for Clinton (in 1996 when we were roomies) and thought taxes on the rich should be 75%. And holy fuck did he smoke a lot of weed.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (vyHiq)

Yeah, sounds about right.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:17 PM (wmaTe)

107 Shocker? I hardly knew 'er!

Posted by: shocker socker at September 25, 2017 08:17 PM (UdKB7)

108 First thing I'm going to do is destroy my septic tank by flushing 19 golfballs down each one of them. Because the commercial says I can!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:16 PM (wmaTe)

Only 19? Meh.

Posted by: sandra fluke at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (O848g)

109 94 I know this is OT but I just thought of something and needed to run it by the Horde. If the NFL and teams are allowing the players to do this shit. Doesn't it kind of blow a hole in the Kaepernick is being blackballed for his protests theory?
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (INJFV)

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You expect leftist vermin to be honest?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (vyHiq)

110
Graham-Cassidy was problematic; I trust nothing with Lindsay Graham's name on it.

Obamacare will implode, and the the collective, expected "geschrei" for Government to rescue us and nationalize healthcare will go up far and wide.

I don't necessarily blame PDT. This us all Deep State kabu-kakke theater.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (mbhDw)

111 From a previous post:
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Before anyone says, "But it's their right to protest,"
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This objection would come from the lib-stung, pre-paralysis mind.

It's a fan's right to burn the gear he bought with the teams logo and demand refunds on his season tickets and choose not to watch another NFL game, too.

This whole idea that you can't be upset at somebody's else use of free speech, and take actions within your own property and prerogative, is not only stupid, but completely non-mutual when the libs don't like conservative speech--and they just don't stick to their property and prerogative.

Posted by: Axeman at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (2mC6G)

112 Tit for Tit- The Dems spent millions on osoff now the r's are spending millions on strange. They are both clueless.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM (hcB66)

113 The coast of Maine is very different than inland. Some liberal retirees on the coast. Coast is mostly driven by tourism. Portland is an enclave of its own. 30 miles in, it's like Appalachia, sometimes with a French accent. It's been a relatively high tax state for a long time.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 25, 2017 08:19 PM (cAXIk)

114 Is it one of those illegal 4 gallon toilets?

I had a buddy who (swear to god) used to smuggle those from Sherbrooke, QC down to the NYC area.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (wmaTe)


Dear Penthouse Forum: I never believed that design mattered more than volume in shitters until I bought a house with a 1.6gpf Toto™ that could probably suck down a whole rack of ribs as-is and eagerly ask for seconds...

(true story)

Posted by: hogmartin at September 25, 2017 08:19 PM (y87Qq)

115 You expect leftist vermin to be honest?
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:18 PM

Of course not. But since the NFL (No Fans Left) is o.k. with all this shit it means he wasn't being blackballed for his political stance, it means he was simply a QB that wasn't worth signing. Shocking I know!

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:19 PM (INJFV)

116 If the GOP truly wanted repeal they could have had a clean repeal bill on Trump's desk on Jan 20. He would have signed it. End of story.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:19 PM (vyHiq)

117 98 Collins was expected, but if Moore squeaks it out in Alabama, watch the GOP Estabs support the Dem. They want no more Cruz types in the senate.

Just in case anybody needed anymore confirmation of their duplicity.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:15 PM (r+sAi)

The GOP-e openly supporting a Democrat, and in Alabama of all places, will be an NFL-like maneuver.

Yes please! (I have a feeling Moore will win the nod)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM (mbhDw)

118 Good early evening all.

Final gas stop done, about 50 miles west of Amarillo. Been trucking along fast enough to keep my counterpart quiet. Still about 5 hours to go, but all's going well. See y'all on the ONT.

Oh and if that Steeler had any honor, he would have stuck to his original decision. Fuck the NFL.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM (dML+c)

119 spending millions on strange

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Thank goodness we were past 100 comments.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM (UUvSq)

120 I hate Gillespie, a cookie cutter RINO lobbyist caricature, but the thought of Northam as Governor of Virginia makes me physically ill, so I guess I'll have to vote for Establishment Ed.

Still thinking about how many times though!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 08:21 PM (gwPgz)

121 Maine is two states. The conservative north where they grow lotsa potatoes and there are more moose than men. And the south which is Boston politically, but with shittier weather and nicer beaches.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:21 PM (vyHiq)

122 Coast is mostly driven by tourism.

When we lived in the Boston area, yes, we would spend summer holidays along the Maine coast. Because food. And prettiness.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:21 PM (6FqZa)

123
Final gas stop done, about 50 miles west of Amarillo. Been trucking along fast enough to keep my counterpart quiet. Still about 5 hours to go, but all's going well. See y'all on the ONT.

Oh and if that Steeler had any honor, he would have stuck to his original decision. Fuck the NFL.
Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM ......Amarillo by morning.....Up from San Antone.....

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:21 PM (INJFV)

124 "That sucks, I bet they are fucking with him over it. People are still gonna be pissed"

Little bit more O/T follow up to this.

Every Monday night, Mrs VIA and I go out to dinner to the same small bar/Pub.

For the first time ever, there was NO football on the bar TV's. Only NHL Hockey.

And the one bar Maid came in to start her shift announcing that tomorrows Ravens/Steelers game would be the first that she will be no attending in ages. Stated reason?

"My choice" was her words.

And this is a twenty something.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 25, 2017 08:21 PM (EyPfd)

125 Counterpart?

Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 08:22 PM (bfUpy)

126 Susan Collins takes a knee!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at September 25, 2017 08:22 PM (6FqZa)

127 Final gas stop done, about 50 miles west of Amarillo. Been trucking along fast enough to keep my counterpart quiet. Still about 5 hours to go, but all's going well. See y'all on the ONT.

Oh and if that Steeler had any honor, he would have stuck to his original decision. Fuck the NFL.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM (dML+c)

Safe driving, buddy. Don't fall asleep on the road. Even a 15-minute catnap can refresh you for another hour or two of road time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 08:22 PM (O848g)

128 122 Coast is mostly driven by tourism.

When we lived in the Boston area, yes, we would spend summer holidays along the Maine coast. Because food. And prettiness.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:21 PM (6FqZa)


Was thinking of moving there. But then someone said "Maine has two seasons: winter and preparing for winter."

And Collins, King and Snowe with their Deep State bootlicking is the clincher.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 25, 2017 08:23 PM (mbhDw)

129 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.



United. That means you conservative scum were shackled.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles
===

So very, very true.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:23 PM (2wRtc)

130 We get what we deserve.

When Mugabe Care crashes, we get single payer. Which means rationing, which means po' folks will get the short end and rich folks will be going to Mexico or off shore cruise ships to get all the health care they want.

Lots of po' folks gonna die waiting for this kidney or that procedure and the dems will get the death panels they always wanted and no anesthesia for anyone and loooong lines just like the the old Soviet Union.

Thanks Barack Mugabe voters!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (5VlCp)

131 Since I forgot to mention this before: thank you, Ace, for grilling the weiner on the best Memorial Day Weekend ever 2011.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (6FqZa)

132
The GOP-e openly supporting a Democrat, and in Alabama of all places, will be an NFL-like maneuver.

Or an Indiana like maneuver.

(Dick Lugar)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (IqV8l)

133 Oh and if that Steeler had any honor, he would have stuck to his original decision. Fuck the NFL.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM (dML+c)


My thought was that the military concept of honor has become a lot more flexible since the election, at least for NFL players!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (gwPgz)

134 Was thinking of moving there. But then someone said "Maine has two seasons: winter and preparing for winter."


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Only two things to do in Maine in winter. Fishing and fucking. And the fishing ain't too good.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (vyHiq)

135 There was talk on the last thread about rugby.

Great sport. I played for over 15 years, semi-serious.

There's more running action in an 80-minute rugby match than there is in three plus hours of NFL gridiron. Which is why is why Gridiron will never catch on in England and Europe.

Now if you want another fun sport: Gaelic Football.
Aussie Rules is Gaelic Football played with a rugby ball on a cricket pitch.
Gaelic has a round ball. You have to dribble it every third step, so you can't just carry and bull your way forward like in rugby. You can't tackle, but you can "impede" so it's more physical than soccer. You can hand pass, or turn a kick into a pass.
There's a soccer-like goal with uprights, and a goalie. If you beat the goalie into the net, it's three points; over the goalie between the uprights and it's one. This spreads the defense. If you collapse on the goal like in soccer, you give up easy chip shots.
There's no offside rule, which is the bane of soccer. You don't need it because the game moves so fast.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 25, 2017 08:24 PM (cAXIk)

136 apparently, Susan Collins didn't get the memo that "standing with the team" is paramount.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 08:12 PM (XlbwU)



She IS standing with the team.

It's just not America's team, that's all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:25 PM (SRKgf)

137 Oh and if that Steeler had any honor, he would have stuck to his original decision.

He's now saying it was all a big "mistake". He had no intention of coming out and didn't realize he was outside of the tunnel until it was too late.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:25 PM (Tyii7)

138 Well we know one thing, Collins' statement can defeat Sonobi.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 25, 2017 08:25 PM (oOYbM)

139 McConnell is a waste of human skin.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 25, 2017 08:25 PM (mcI77)

140 I remember the reaction when Trump insulted McCain.

Yet we have a thread wishing cancer on him.

Somebody needs to give me a copy of these "special standards for special people" so that I can follow them more closely.


Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:26 PM (2wRtc)

141 Who was it that said Democrats will be pushing socialized medicine while the GOP will be trying to save Obamacare? I figured that shit would be like in 2025, not late 2017.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:26 PM (vyHiq)

142 Collins plays for both teams and America has to watch.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:26 PM (6FqZa)

143 McConnell probably just gave Collins a bigger office and said, "So, how much do you want for your next campaign?"

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 08:26 PM (H8S+R)

144 Gaelic has a round ball. You have to dribble it every third step, so you can't just carry and bull your way forward like in rugby.

Or basketball, where if you've dribbled earlier in the day, that's good enough. Tuck the ball under your arm and go in for the dunk.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:26 PM (SRKgf)

145 If you can guarantee flood insurance, I'm interested!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 08:15 PM (gwPgz)

Works for me brother!

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 08:26 PM (ivy+W)

146 "Yet we have a thread wishing cancer on him. "

I'm not wishing that on him. I am wishing a brutally painful awful death on him. For the record.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:27 PM (vyHiq)

147 This bill is pretty much crap, I can't work up any outrage one way or the other on it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:27 PM (39g3+)

148 Jesus, that boilerplate pabulum could be used for the next 18 years and probably has been used for the last 8 years.

Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2017 08:27 PM (imd6s)

149 I spent some winters on the Maine coast (which is milder than inland) and in Boston.

I actually liked Maine winters. Not too bad and it's bracing.

The worst is Boston coming out of winter. 30 degrees and rain and bad winds. In Maine it was shorter break from Winter into Spring.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 25, 2017 08:27 PM (cAXIk)

150 She doesn't like the "compressed time frame"? Seven years is compressed?

Where's her bill, then? Another seven years away?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 25, 2017 08:28 PM (Ndje9)

151 Will the terrible surprises never cease?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 08:28 PM (dCikz)

152
the gop e is spending ridiculous amounts of money to elect Strange, which is quite different than spending money to get some strange.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (r+sAi)

153 The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (9A6UB)

154 The worst is Boston coming out of winter.

Oh fuck yeah, Boston area February SUCKED as a kid. Stuck in the house with slush, not snow to play in, and everybody getting the flu.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (6FqZa)

155 147 This bill is pretty much crap, I can't work up any outrage one way or the other on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:27 PM (39g3+)

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Ugh. This is why the right never gets anywhere. Yeah it's not the greatest bill. But it's a push in the right direction. And next year maybe have another bill that pushes it a bit more. And then in 2019 another bill. And so on.

The left has been doing this shit for 100 years. Their goal has been socialism, but they didn't do it in one bill. They did it in 100 small bills.

But for some reason fro conservatives if one bill doesn't do everything perfectly, fuck it, we won't do it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (vyHiq)

156 Only two things to do in Maine in winter. Fishing and fucking. And the fishing ain't too good.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:24

My state called, we'd like a word. Actually Maine is allot like MN in that aspect. Most of outstate has amazing scenery and beautiful lakes. Most parts in the hinterlands are conservative (except for the Iron range but that's changing) The Twin Cities has turned into a liberal cesspool that fucks us every time. Although Hildo only won by 1% which was shocking.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (INJFV)

157 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.

Yes, that's quite full of f**kwittery, isn't it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (iVOAv)

158 You can bet your bottom dollar certain people will be exempt from single payer.

Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2017 08:30 PM (BFYeS)

159 They could push a lot harder in a better direction than this turdfest. And don't tell me they couldn't get that passed, they can't get this one passed either, apparently

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:30 PM (39g3+)

160 Maine is actually a cool place. Portland too. But in small doses. I can't imagine living there full time.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (vyHiq)

161 157 According to the fuckwits on my Facebook wall, we were a united country until Trump came along.

Yes, that's quite full of f**kwittery, isn't it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (iVOAv)



Yeah. Until Lincoln came along, everything was hunky-dory. Bastard.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (SRKgf)

162
There's a soccer-like goal with uprights, and a goalie. If you beat the goalie into the net, it's three points

How many points if you beat him into the ground?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (IqV8l)

163 Whatever happens, or doesn't, I want no taxpayer bailouts of the insurance companies. They called down the thunder.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (LTHVh)

164 " It's the best we can do at this time" Fuck you all.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (hcB66)

165 Jerry Jones and his Cowboys all took a knee and locked arms, isn't that sweet. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: spypeach at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (ZuTnR)

166 spending millions on strange

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Thank goodness we were past 100 comments.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 25, 2017 08:20 PM (UUvSq)

Even as much as I travel for work, I wouldn't spend ten bucks on some strange...I know which side my bread's buttered on, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (ivy+W)

167 Is there anything Hillz hasn't blamed for her loss yet?

Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (bfUpy)

168 Heh.

Ad on the main page for "Big Luther Strange" I don't live in Alabama by the way.


"Big Luther Strange"

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (Zg0i4)

169 My state called, we'd like a word. Actually Maine is allot like MN in that aspect. Most of outstate has amazing scenery and beautiful lakes. Most parts in the hinterlands are conservative (except for the Iron range but that's changing) The Twin Cities has turned into a liberal cesspool that fucks us every time. Although Hildo only won by 1% which was shocking.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (INJFV)



Interesting. How come all the really liberal dickheads in MN move here? The most egregious retarded liberals I've ever met in CA came from MN.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (SRKgf)

170 Had Rand Paul been on board, they probably could have bribed Murkowski to get her to Yes as well. The fact she hasn't said no yet leads me to believe there is a yes in there with enough incentives for Alaska. But with Rand playing the "if it's not perfect I won't vote for it" game, we''ll never know.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (vyHiq)

171 IMO "Obamacare repeal" should be sold as a budgetary measure on the grounds that we can't afford Obamacare or single-payer, whilst we're dealing with natural disasters and by the way Winter Is Coming.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:33 PM (6FqZa)

172 165 Jerry Jones and his Cowboys all took a knee and locked arms, isn't that sweet. Bless their hearts.
Posted by: spypeach at September 25, 2017 08:31 PM (ZuTnR)



Tell me this isn't true.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:33 PM (SRKgf)

173 "How come all the really liberal dickheads in MN move here?"

They inherited a Scandinavian socialist thing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 25, 2017 08:33 PM (cAXIk)

174 They dicker in ME. Dickering is a honored past time.
Fucking inbred hicks.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 25, 2017 08:33 PM (mcI77)

175 I can't bring myself to read the above. Was it that ethically and because her conscience she couldn't vote for it and because America and the people and shit?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (dCikz)

176 The Cowboys all took a knee? Well, that's a surprise.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (iVOAv)

177 167 Is there anything Hillz hasn't blamed for her loss yet?
Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM (bfUpy)



Sunspots?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (SRKgf)

178 Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:14 PM (INJFV)

You are assuming there is an actual strategy. It's more like the NFL is stumbling around in a dark cavern and the batteries in the flashlight are dead.

Posted by: GOPeeeeee at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (3myMJ)

179 Has there been a discussion of ways to rid ourselves of the NFL while keeping the cheerleaders?

Posted by: Weasel at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (Sfs6o)

180 It's been a hell of a past five or six days dealing with my father-in-law.


Then all I want to do is sit and watch a football game and all I hear is about all these bullshit players kneeling. Stupid cocksuckers. Then some asshole on local Dallas TV calls me a racist because I don't recognize white privilege. Then the Anthem plays and the newest non-offensive form of protest is linking arms. Fuck you, NFL.


No more football for me, and I was a huge fan. Mr. D and I are both out.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (/o9Qk)

181 But for some reason fro conservatives if one bill doesn't do everything perfectly, fuck it, we won't do it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (vyHiq)


Perfect is the enemy of good enough for now!

As someone said above, 100 small steps can add up to one giant leap!

With the GOPe, 100 small steps are far too many to contemplate, much less implement, so forget the whole thing (except for the graft, power, and perks)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (gwPgz)

182 There is a hideous skeletal Hillary-excuser on Tucker.

eww

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:34 PM (2wRtc)

183 "But with Rand playing the "if it's not perfect I won't vote for it" game, we''ll never know."

Rand want to run for POTUS someday on the "Is there a Doctor in the house" platform.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (cAXIk)

184 Jerry Jones and his Cowboys all took a knee and locked arms, isn't that sweet. Bless their hearts.

Fools.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (LTHVh)

185 I want no taxpayer bailouts of the insurance companies. They called down the thunder.

I feel the same way about the imbeciles who bought Puerto Rico bonds. I want them to bend right over. Don't so much want us on that hook.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (6FqZa)

186 Why is it such a shock that the Cowboy thugs acted like all the other thugs?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (vyHiq)

187 Jerry Jones and his Cowboys all took a knee and locked arms, isn't that sweet.

No they didn't.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (Tyii7)

188 Obamacare will fail.

We will pay for it.

Congress will not.

Why should they concern themselves?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:35 PM (2wRtc)

189 I'd also like to add that I hated the NFL before it was cool.

Posted by: Weasel at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (Sfs6o)

190 meanwhile, in San Francisco, things got weird

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycarg5nz

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (XlbwU)

191 173 "How come all the really liberal dickheads in MN move here?"

They inherited a Scandinavian socialist thing.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 25, 2017 08:33 PM (cAXIk)



But Minnfidel says that most of the hinterlands are conservative. I've never met a conservative from MN yet. Not one. For most of them Joe Stalin would say, "Hold on, pardner, you're going a little too far left."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (SRKgf)

192 Jones has been quoted several times as saying that if you don't stand for the anthem, you're off my team.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (Tyii7)

193 I predict pain.

Posted by: GOPeeeeee at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (3myMJ)

194 Has there been a discussion of ways to rid ourselves of the NFL while keeping the cheerleaders?

Accidental posted oopsies from our host?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (6FqZa)

195 America's Team no more.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:37 PM (LTHVh)

196 The Cowboys did not kneel. None of them.


However, they did link arms. Which I'm taking as the newest, "oh this won't offend the rubes" form of protest.


So fuck them.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:37 PM (/o9Qk)

197 Kentucky under the former Gov and with the turtles consent took a big Medicaid expansion.

I will give Perry credit that he fought that tooth and nail here in TX.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 08:37 PM (hcB66)

198
Had Rand Paul been on board, they probably could have bribed Murkowski to get her to Yes as well. The fact she hasn't said no yet leads me to believe there is a yes in there with enough incentives for Alaska. But with Rand playing the "if it's not perfect I won't vote for it" game, we''ll never know.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM


WASHINGTON - An updated version of the Graham-Cassidy health care bill circulating among lobbyists and on Capitol Hill on Sunday night has changed to provide more benefits to Alaska, a move to appeal to Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski, who has been highly skeptical of efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

The new version would grandfather Native Alaskans into Medicaid so they wouldn't lose coverage after the expanded Medicaid program is rolled back in 2020.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (IqV8l)

199
BTW, I bet it was a lot more than the steelers pressuring him, as a veteran standing alone really was making an impact and the nfl knew it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (r+sAi)

200 192 Jones has been quoted several times as saying that if you don't stand for the anthem, you're off my team.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (Tyii7)

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Is this the same Jerry Jones that employs 2 players that beat the shit out of his girlfriend repeatedly? 'Scuse me while I stand in the corner not giving many fucks what Jones has to say.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (vyHiq)

201 I met ONE conservative from MN.

One.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (89T5c)

202 And Jerruh Jones proves once again he's a dipshit.

Taking a knee before the Anthem, and then letting the team link arms during.

Stooped fucking Skeletor.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (x9oEV)

203 That is the way our 'majority' in the Senate always rolls. If it wasn't this 3 or 4 it would be 3 or 4 others...this theater is getting to the boiling point.

Posted by: Tentotwo at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM (yhf6w)

204 Kreplach: "The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit."

Keep saying that and people are going to wonder if you have a blog.

Not saying I disagree and that it's not worth repeating. Just an observation.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (H8S+R)

205 I'd like to introduce people to a concept known for millennia as the "false dichotomy"

This is a logical fallacy by which you choose two extreme choices and present them as if they are the only possible choices, then attack one choice as poor as a result.

In real life, there are many choices. You can have actually bad options that do not require you to pick them OR the ideal option.

For example, this bill does almost nothing to help Americans or deal with the ACA. Its a choice, but not a good one. Congress has many other options and choices it could make, but is deciding not to.

So rejecting this bad choice is, shocking though it might seem, not the same as requiring only the ideal choice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

206 190 meanwhile, in San Francisco, things got weird

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycarg5nz
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 08:36 PM (XlbwU)



GOT weird? They started out weird.

Residents of Sodom and Gomorrah shake their heads in disgust.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (SRKgf)

207
However, they did link arms. Which I'm taking as the newest, "oh this won't offend the rubes" form of protest.

They should kick their legs ala Rockettes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (IqV8l)

208 Jones has been quoted several times as saying that if you don't stand for the anthem, you're off my team
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Must have been that notorious NFL Hit Squad.

You know, those little guys in suits with green eyeshades and briefcases and copies of contracts.

Terrifying.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (2wRtc)

209 Liking arms, kneeling, sitting down. It's all the same shit and the same message of FUCK OFF WHITE PEOPLE.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (vyHiq)

210 Video: Entire Cowboys Team Kneels Briefly Before National Anthem

http://on.si.com/2fn85wT

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (LTHVh)

211 >>Jones has been quoted several times as saying that if you don't stand for the anthem, you're off my team.

Well then he must be quitting because he was kneeling too.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (/tuJf)

212 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (IqV8l)

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (iVOAv)

213 196 The Cowboys did not kneel. None of them.


However, they did link arms. Which I'm taking as the newest, "oh this won't offend the rubes" form of protest.


We started that.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (SRKgf)

214 Interesting. How come all the really liberal dickheads in MN move here? The most egregious retarded liberals I've ever met in CA came from MN.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:32 PM

Because for them Minneapolis isn't liberal enough. Sorry man, you can have them!

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (INJFV)

215 Of all the NFL games I haven't watched this season, this is by far the best first half I haven't seen.

Posted by: garrett at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (Q1W/D)

216 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

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I disagree. Right now Obama is at 100 on a 0-100 scale, 0 being awesome, 100 being terrible. This bill might have brought it down to 85. Granted 85 is still far from ideal. But it's still better than 100.

But I guess in RandWorld, if it's not 0 it doesn't matter.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (vyHiq)

217 I'm exhausted and frustrated. Making end-of-life plans for someone really sucks.


Does anyone know much about home hospice? My BIL thinks it's a scam to collect money. I don't see the bad in it. Hospital and doctors visits are futile at this point.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

218 >>Jones has been quoted several times as saying that if you don't stand for the anthem, you're off my team.

Well then he must be quitting because he was kneeling too.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (/tuJf)


He was standing ... while identifying as a midget for those two minutes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (8gDQu)

219 The Cowboys did not kneel. None of them.


However, they did link arms.
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I look forward to pre-game Twister during the National Anthem.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:42 PM (2wRtc)

220 another east coast elite declares she is a communist ...

so be it.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 25, 2017 08:42 PM (yKAUL)

221 Video: Entire Cowboys Team Kneels Briefly Before National Anthem

http://on.si.com/2fn85wT
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (LTHVh)


All this, for a flag?

Posted by: Barack Obumblefuck at September 25, 2017 08:42 PM (tbOMB)

222 I have hated Jerry Jones for years....scum of the earth.

Posted by: ramajama at September 25, 2017 08:42 PM (oAlzZ)

223 Video: Entire Cowboys Team Kneels Briefly Before National Anthem



http://on.si.com/2fn85wT



Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (LTHVh)


Funny how they didn't show that on the Tv coverage here.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (/o9Qk)

224 It's official.

Sorry, but I think I've reached peak Negritude. I'm sick of hearing about their shit.

Get off your asses, stay in school, make something of yourselves, and quit blaming everything and everybody for your own failings, which are legion. OK?

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (SRKgf)

225 I'm sure the Idiot Ginger Clapping Seal Head Coach of the Cowboys spent all his time planning that kneeling sequence that he forgot to plan any defense again.


Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (x9oEV)

226 I met ONE conservative from MN.

One.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2017 08:38 PM

Make it two. How ya doin? Trump only lost the state by 1%. Which was stunning. There's a ton of us here that like the beauty of it, and then there's Minneapolis and St.Paul. We call them Cidiots.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (INJFV)

227 Danger Girl- I have a really good contact for you about that.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (hcB66)

228 I look forward to pre-game Twister during the National Anthem.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:42 PM (2wRtc)


Eventually it'll be pre-game leapfrog.

At least for the SF team.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (SRKgf)

229 I honestly thought the Cowboys could avoid saying fuck whitey to their fans. I really did. My heart hurts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (LTHVh)

230 Notorious BFD: "Jones has been quoted several times as saying that if you don't stand for the anthem, you're off my team."

Jerry Jones is so two-faced he could star in a Batman movie. If you want straight talk, Jones is pretty much at the bottom of the list. He's a circus promoter. Watch your wallet.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (H8S+R)

231 Jones has been quoted several times as saying that if you don't stand for the anthem, you're off my team.

Well then he must be quitting because he was kneeling too.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (/tuJf)


They just can't shoot enough holes in their ship

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (auHtY)

232 "Maine is actually a cool place. Portland too. But in small doses. I can't imagine living there full time."

Did an overhaul at Bath Iron Works on the Kennibeck river in 78-79.

Nice area.
Too cold.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 25, 2017 08:45 PM (EyPfd)

233 Whatever. All I know is that I've watched my last NFL game. Ever.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:45 PM (Tyii7)

234 This bill might have brought it down to 85.

See, that's the problem. It would have brought it down to like.... 99.5. It did almost nothing to deal with the issue, and did it poorly.

This isn't between the perfect and the good, its between the crappy and the less crappy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:45 PM (39g3+)

235 The Cowboy thugs took a knee but after the anthem.

Muuuuuuuuuch better.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:45 PM (vyHiq)

236 Video: Entire Cowboys Team Kneels Briefly Before National Anthem


http://on.si.com/2fn85wT


Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:40 PM (LTHVh)

Un-mf-in' believable. We do all know that the NFL bazillion page rule book addresses this issue, right? In great detail. They should all be sanctioned. I hate this.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 08:45 PM (EgOr3)

237 Two. I've met two conservatives from MN.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (89T5c)

238
Danger Girl- I have a really good contact for you about that.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 08:43 PM (hcB66)


OK. Ultimately, is it the right way to go when doctors/hospitals are useless? Last time he was in hospital, he was there three days, no help from staff at all. There is nothing left that anyone can do. He's on his way Home, we just want to make sure his way there is as easy as possible.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (/o9Qk)

239 Reading her "concerns" it seems she really wants something like Obamacare anyway.

She is taking a knee for Obamacare.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (/qEW2)

240 See, that's the problem. It would have brought it down to like.... 99.5. It did almost nothing to deal with the issue, and did it poorly.

This isn't between the perfect and the good, its between the crappy and the less crappy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:45 PM (39g3+)

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Eliminating the madame and the medical device tax alone would have done a lot. Come on.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (vyHiq)

241 Repeal the 17th!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (XLk6I)

242 I honestly thought the Cowboys could avoid saying fuck whitey to their fans. I really did. My heart hurts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:44 PM (LTHVh)


The whole NFL is all-in on their "America is evil and must die" campaign.

Personally, I'd like to deport these fuckers to South America and let them play soccer for mobs who will eat them alive if they screw up a goal. That ... I would watch.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (8gDQu)

243
Still wondering why they weren't doing this during the obama regime..... ok, no I'm not.

(which btw most of these controversial shootings happened)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (r+sAi)

244 Jerry Jones thinks he can choreograph his way through this by kneeling "before". Another just the tip liberal scum. And to think I grew up idolizing the Cowboys. Wasted youth.

Posted by: ramajama at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (oAlzZ)

245 The Cowboy thugs took a knee but after the anthem.



Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:45 PM (vyHiq)

A distinction without a difference. Always hated the Sowboys anyhow. Not super happy with my Pats, either, which breaks my hard little heart.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (EgOr3)

246 She is taking a knee for Obamacare.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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Which, coincidentally, is exactly how Obamacare works.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (2wRtc)

247 237 Two. I've met two conservatives from MN.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM (89T5c)


I assume we're talking meatspace (i.e., excluding our esteemed colleague Minnfidel), in which case you're two up on me.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (SRKgf)

248 Does anyone know much about home hospice? My BIL thinks it's a scam to collect money. I don't see the bad in it. Hospital and doctors visits are futile at this point.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)
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Hi DangerGirl - I guess there is good and bad in everything, but my dad spent his last week in a hospice care facility and I cannot say enough good things about those amazing people.

Posted by: Weasel at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (Sfs6o)

249 Does anyone know much about home hospice? My BIL
thinks it's a scam to collect money. I don't see the bad in it. Hospital
and doctors visits are futile at this point.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

I have dealt with hospice twice. They are saviors, if there is a good one near you. Do you have any nurse friends you can ask?

Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (bfUpy)

250 >>Did an overhaul at Bath Iron Works on the Kennibeck river in 78-79.

Kennebeck. I know this because that fucking river tried to kill fucking kill me.

Fuck you river!

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (/tuJf)

251 169 My state called, we'd like a word. Actually Maine is allot like MN in that aspect. Most of outstate has amazing scenery and beautiful lakes. Most parts in the hinterlands are conservative (except for the Iron range but that's changing) The Twin Cities has turned into a liberal cesspool that fucks us every time. Although Hildo only won by 1% which was shocking.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:29 PM (INJFV)

I married the only conservative from the Iron Range (she took after my beloved mother in law). The rest are rabid aggressive obnoxious liberals. My wife has gotten so tired of being insulted that communication has basically stopped.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (dCikz)

252 So the cowgirls take the absolute most weasel-like course of action... kneel, but not during the anthem, and do the chorus line BS? Shocker. Jerruh Jones is the ultimate douche and his team reflects his character.

Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (S3dtp)

253 The Dallas Cowboys had one glorious shot at being America's team again. One chance at recovering some esteem and appeal like they once had.

No more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (39g3+)

254 Collins is full of shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (NWiLs)

255
As an aside, Vanna White is up there in age, but I would still hit it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (r+sAi)

256 Have you heard any of these geniuses try to articulate the reasoning or meaning behind their actions?

Better to be silent and be suspected of being a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (EZebt)

257 Two. I've met two conservatives from MN.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2017 08:46 PM

Like I said, we're out here. It was stunning that bitch won by 1% only. We're just fucked by Minneapolistan and it's step sister St.Paul. They used to be decent places as far as metro areas go. The libs did the same for them as other metro areas. Meaning, they fucked it up. Shocking nobody.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (INJFV)

258
The Cowboy thugs took a knee but after the anthem.
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Video: Entire Cowboys Team Kneels Briefly Before National Anthem


So, was if before or after?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (IqV8l)

259 Where Kris Krispe when you need him?

Hey Fattie!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (5VlCp)

260 Does anyone know much about home hospice? My BIL thinks it's a scam to collect money. I don't see the bad in it. Hospital and doctors visits are futile at this point.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

Prayers to you and yours. From all I have heard and experienced about hospice, they do a great job and are very sympathetic to the rest of the family. It's not free, but insurance should help with the cost or Medicare.

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (ivy+W)

261 The rest are rabid aggressive obnoxious liberals.

You see, these are MN expats I've met here.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (SRKgf)

262 Jerry Jones is just another fool afraid of being called a racist, afraid of bad press.

Trump has a way of making pansies out of men who kiss media ass.

I'm loving it.

Posted by: Pam at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (cF0hS)

263 The whole linking arms thing is kinda confusing.

Last week one of thetas appeared linking arms with police and first responders.
And it was advertised as standing in unity with police and first responders.
Not sold as a protest.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (EyPfd)

264
Does anyone know much about home hospice? My BIL thinks it's a scam to
collect money. I don't see the bad in it. Hospital and doctors visits
are futile at this point.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

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DG, I went through this with my dad in 2016. Email me if you want . . . carolinvenice at the hooya.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM (EgOr3)

265 ...most weasel-like course of action...
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*ahem*

Posted by: Weasel at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM (Sfs6o)

266 Eliminating the madame and the medical device tax alone would have done a lot. Come on.

Not really. The mandate is nonexistent right now already. Its not being enforced. The medical device tax is pretty minor on its own. It does almost nothing, and is being called "repeal" by lying sacks of weasel crap who ran for half a decade on how they'd get rid of the thing right away if given a chance.

No mercy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM (39g3+)

267 258
The Cowboy thugs took a knee but after the anthem.
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Video: Entire Cowboys Team Kneels Briefly Before National Anthem

So, was if before or after?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (IqV8l)



____

Does it matter?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM (vyHiq)

268 What are we protesting, again? Cops killing black criminals? What about blacks killing blacks? That comparison is probably 1:100, - every weekend.

Posted by: Fritz at September 25, 2017 08:51 PM (imd6s)

269 DangerGirl: "However, they did link arms. Which I'm taking as the newest, 'oh this won't offend the rubes' form of protest."

If Jones et al. can have their cake and eat it too, then they'll know they've duped everyone and adroitly walked the tightrope.

It's quite embarrassing to watch the clownshow (though, technically, I'm not since cable's now off).

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 08:51 PM (H8S+R)

270 Steyn:

"The governmentalization of health care is the fastest way to a permanent left-of-center political culture. It redefines the relationship between the citizen and the state in fundamental ways that make limited government all but impossible.

The result is a kind of two-party one-party state; Right-of-center parties will once in a while be in office, but never in power, merely presiding over vast left-wing bureaucracies that cruise on regardless.

Republicans seem to have difficulty grasping this basic dynamic. The Democrats understand that politics is not just about Tuesday evenings every other November, but about everything else, too.
Once the state swells to a certain size, the people available to fill the ever-expanding number of government jobs will be statists-- sometimes hard-core Marxist statists, sometimes social-engineering multiculti statists, sometimes fluffily "compassionate" statists, but always statists.

The short history of the post-war welfare state is that you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life...government health care is not about health care, it's about government.".......

Our Blob-ocracy has grown to the point to where Gumment is trying to do EVERYTHING. It funds neo-natal units and the Planned Parenthood camps. It sponsors gun buy-backs and sells machine guns to el Chapo. It funds arms control and gives nukes to Iran.

Almost anything does, it also does the opposite.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 25, 2017 08:51 PM (Ndje9)

271 ESPN top story has Jones and the entire team kneeling.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 25, 2017 08:51 PM (mNQwG)

272 Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

I've heard that it's the best run program of the Medicare system. Everyone I've known that has used it have said good things, including my family who used it with my grandmother.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (LuKE7)

273 Add my late father to the Minnservatives list. (Though granted I kinda swung to the right of him the last few years...)

Mom though, old-style Democrat. Didn't live long enough to see the Obama years, thankfully.

Posted by: Don Cavil at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (66CWr)

274 I married the only conservative from the Iron Range (she took after my beloved mother in law). The rest are rabid aggressive obnoxious liberals. My wife has gotten so tired of being insulted that communication has basically stopped.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM

That's starting to change. All the years of the empty promises by the DFL (that's Democratic Farmer Labor Union for non residents, We say it stands for dumb fucking liberals) Is changing. All the tree hugging cidiots and their minions trying to stop mining for Mother Gaia have finally pissed off enough "Rangers" I think.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (INJFV)

275 The whole linking arms thing is kinda confusing.

Linking arms I see more as a statement of unity: we're a team, we're all together in this! (against that bad man Trump, presumably). Its kinda silly but that's what I think its meant to say.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (39g3+)

276 Maine has been coasting on the excellence of its lobster, the presence of Stephen King, and the fact that Bostonians have few other places to go on vacation, for a long time now. In 20 years, Canada will annex it, and we might not even contest it.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (Vb4BV)

277 Not really. The mandate is nonexistent right now already. Its not being enforced. The medical device tax is pretty minor on its own. It does almost nothing, and is being called "repeal" by lying sacks of weasel crap who ran for half a decade on how they'd get rid of the thing right away if given a chance.

No mercy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM (39g3+)

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So repealing a 10% tax on medical devices is too minor to matter. Thanks for proving my initial point. This is why the right never advances anything. It's either a grand slam or nothing. While the left get single after single after single.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (vyHiq)

278 Eh, I'm not "made" yet, sock-be-gone.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (66CWr)

279 >>The whole linking arms thing is kinda confusing.

They are claiming it is in response to Trump singling out those who kneel as sons of bitches who should be fired. They are standing with their teammates.

Not sure they thought this whole thing through. But then I'm not sure many of them think about much.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (/tuJf)

280 252 So the cowgirls take the absolute most weasel-like course of action... kneel, but not during the anthem, and do the chorus line BS? Shocker. Jerruh Jones is the ultimate douche and his team reflects his character.
Posted by: Wahshiya at September 25, 2017 08:48 PM (S3dtp)



Exactly. What a bunch of pussies. "Let's do something different, but reminiscent of what the other assholes did, so we can curry favor with the CPUSA and other leftist outfits, but different enough that we can backwater on this if we get too much blowback."

Man up, you pussies. I don't care what you bench press. You've got overcooked spaghetti for spines. Take one side, OR the other.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (SRKgf)

281 Danger Girl

So sorry. I can't imagine how hard that must be.

Posted by: mnw at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (zCpUM)

282
Does it matter?
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM


The truth matters.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (IqV8l)

283 It's amazing to see everyone associated with the xNFL just flat-out knuckling under to the SJW pressure. I'm sure threats of both an overt, as well as a covert nature are involved.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (Tyii7)

284 Home Hospice is/can be a blessing, if there are no treatment options available.

the patient is at home, (hopefully) surrounded by friends and loved ones, which is better for them mentally.

treatment is focused on pain management and quality of life. there are usually social/mental healthcare w*rkers available to help everyone involved, and to navigate the inevitable red tape.

it should also be covered under insurance, if you have it. if not, it will likely be money well spent, considering the alternative, and certainly cheaper than being in a hospital.

/speaking as someone who's provided Rx support to hospice groups, and who has had family and friends use them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (YGF2X)

285 ESPN top story has Jones and the entire team kneeling.

I'm sure its just dripping with gloat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (39g3+)

286 Linking arms I see more as a statement of unity: we're a team, we're all together in this! (against that bad man Trump, presumably). Its kinda silly but that's what I think its meant to say.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (39g3+)


You're sure they're not going into competition with the Rockettes?

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:54 PM (SRKgf)

287 All day the comments have been about disrespecting the flag. Prior to Friday it was only a few that were kneeling. The nonsense since then has been about disrespecting PDT. If PDT hadn't told these boobs that they are indeed boobs it may have been a couple more idiots kneeling but not an overwhelming number. This is just another showing of Trump hate.
Sick of it. Obama care is imploding, the norks have gone even farther off the deep end and many thousands of people are recovering from earthquakes and haurricanes. And this shit is what is the focus.
Madness.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at September 25, 2017 08:54 PM (iRao5)

288 282
Does it matter?
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:50 PM

The truth matters.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 25, 2017 08:53 PM (IqV8l)

Justice matters.

Posted by: Rorshach at September 25, 2017 08:54 PM (NWiLs)

289 ESPN top story has Jones and the entire team kneeling.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 25, 2017 08:51 PM (mNQwG)


All they need to do, now, is start kissing the ground and they'll be ready for islam.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 08:54 PM (8gDQu)

290 They're just protesting Trump so it's normalized now.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (mNQwG)

291 So if I get this straight:

Seeing player kneel = I will never watch again

Seeing players link arms in solidarity with players than kneel = meh whatever, when's the game on tonight?

Le sigh.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (vyHiq)

292 F*ck the cboys....nice try jones. Everyone can see through your shit show. F you

Posted by: E.T. at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (P1GJy)

293 Ben Sasse makes an ass of himself yet again. This time over kneeling. Proof that a CJW doctorate doesn't indicate basic intelligence. Why do Republican primary voters keep selecting these mentally deranged idiots?

Posted by: RioBravo at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (giT7q)

294 DG, if you missed my email addy, let me just say that my dad was on hospice for almost 18 months. It was INCREDIBLE! I don't know what it's like where you are but Medicare literally covered ridiculous amounts they billed and the care was astonishing. He had nurses, doctors, volunteers (everything from grocery shopping to laundry), supplies for all medical needs (he had a colostomy), and they would be there in a very short time in an urgent situation. I literally cannot say enough good things about them. Not sure it's like that everywhere, he was with Scripps in La Jolla, but it certainly should be. They certify for hospice 6 months at a time and re-certify when necessary. Really, just do it. Or e me and we can discuss in more detail (see 264). xoxo, sweetie, it's a hard place to be.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (EgOr3)

295
GOT weird? They started out weird.

Residents of Sodom and Gomorrah shake their heads in disgust.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (SRKgf)

===

Just another day in Paradise.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (EZebt)

296 Jerry Jones and his Cowboys all took a knee and locked arms, isn't that sweet. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: spypeach


"We are indispensable. You need us more than we need you. *hauck* *spit*".

Gauntlet thrown.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (/qEW2)

297 If I can quit smoking, I can give up the Cowboys.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (LTHVh)

298
Eh, they knuckled under the left a long time ago, they even wore the pink pussy hats in games.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 08:56 PM (r+sAi)

299 So repealing a 10% tax on medical devices is too minor to matter. Thanks for proving my initial point

Your false dichotomy is still false. A bad bill is bad even if it has a dollop of whipped cream on top. And they don't even have the spines to get this passed.

But hey, if it makes you feel more virtuous to claim people who oppose bad legislation are some kind of moronic zealot, feel free.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:56 PM (39g3+)

300 What did Sasse say?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:56 PM (vyHiq)

301 A talk show read the NFL rule on how to behave at playing of the anthem.

Stand at attention, quietly etc. etc. What about the rule that is written?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (dCikz)

302 GOT weird? They started out weird.

Residents of Sodom and Gomorrah shake their heads in disgust.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 25, 2017 08:39 PM (SRKgf)

===

Just another day in Paradise.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (EZebt)



I was approached about running a startup in the Bay Area. No dice, I said. It's no place to raise a family (my boys were little then), and I wouldn't consider it.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (SRKgf)

303 290 They're just protesting Trump so it's normalized now.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 25, 2017 08:55 PM (mNQwG)

Endless repetition doesn't make this statement true.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (NWiLs)

304 Stand at attention, quietly etc. etc. What about the rule that is written?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (dCikz)



Maybe it's written in cursive.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (SRKgf)

305 Single Payer Commies gonne Single Payer Commie.


Top 500?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (Vevy5)

306 For the first time in my life I was rooting for the Cowboys, hoping Jones would tell his team we're standing, period! Fuck him. Fuck the NFL for good. Here's the thing that they don't get. NFL fans are made NFL fans at a young age. I grew up a Viking fans, going to games with my Dad and Grandpa at the old Met Stadium in the 70's. That tradition ended this Sunday. My youngest asked why the game wasn't on. I told her it won't be on any more and told her why, she was flabbergasted, but she understood. See ya NFL.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (INJFV)

307 Even moronic zealots can oppose bad legislation twice per session.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (giT7q)

308 So repealing a 10% tax on medical devices is too minor to matter. Thanks for proving my initial point. This is why the right never advances anything. It's either a grand slam or nothing. While the left get single after single after single.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:52 PM (vyHiq)


This bill is not such a great advance. It's a cop-out, at best.

The "right" never advances anything because they (at least those backstabbing traitors who like to portray themselves as being on the right) never even try. THey just don't like the idea of hurting the feelings of the America-hating dems they love to collaborate with.

BarkyCare should have gotten a simple, pure repeal bill. Let these fuckers vote on that. But the Vichy GOP would never even try to do anything like that ... because they are treasonous shit-weasels.

This BarkyCare bill is no repeal. It's not even anything close to repeal. It's just what the Vichy GOP thinks is enough to shut us up about BarkyCare, but to let BarkyCare continue on and grow.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (8gDQu)

309 Your false dichotomy is still false. A bad bill is bad even if it has a dollop of whipped cream on top. And they don't even have the spines to get this passed.

But hey, if it makes you feel more virtuous to claim people who oppose bad legislation are some kind of moronic zealot, feel free.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:56 PM (39g3+)

___

It's not false dude. Option 1 is no medical device tax. Option 2 is keep medical device tax. But hey, it's only a minor tax so who gives a fuck?

And since when was giving states more power to administer health care "minor"? I thought team red was all for states rights. I guess no more, huh? False dichotomy and such.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (vyHiq)

310 NFL players:
You have the right to protest Trump tmrw. But aren't there better ways than kneeling before the flag soldiers died to defend?
-Ben Sasse


That doesn't strike me as a terrible thing to say, does it to you?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:59 PM (39g3+)

311 I was approached about running a startup in the Bay Area. No dice, I said. It's no place to raise a family (my boys were little then), and I wouldn't consider it.
Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (SRKgf)

You mean you're not OK with your sons watching hundreds of homos suck each other's dicks in public? Homophobe.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2017 08:59 PM (NWiLs)

312 Single Payer is happening, no matter what, because the Assholes in DC know that it means they get to dictate EXACTLY when somebody has to die, and they'll NEVER turn down that level of intoxicating power.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 08:59 PM (Vevy5)

313 Man, Trump is the greatest exposer of RINOs and SJWs ever. He tweets, and they just cannot wait another moment to out themselves.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2017 08:59 PM (Vb4BV)

314 Enjoying not watching MNF.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 25, 2017 09:00 PM (0lynm)

315 MY BEST WEEKEND EVER!! THANKS, ROGER!

Posted by: Bag of Dicks salesman at September 25, 2017 09:00 PM (89T5c)

316 For the first time in my life I was rooting for the
Cowboys,

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (INJFV)

Me, too, Minnfidel. Won't get fooled again, you can take that to the fuckin' bank.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:00 PM (EgOr3)

317 306 For the first time in my life I was rooting for the Cowboys, hoping Jones would tell his team we're standing, period! Fuck him. Fuck the NFL for good. Here's the thing that they don't get. NFL fans are made NFL fans at a young age. I grew up a Viking fans, going to games with my Dad and Grandpa at the old Met Stadium in the 70's. That tradition ended this Sunday. My youngest asked why the game wasn't on. I told her it won't be on any more and told her why, she was flabbergasted, but she understood. See ya NFL.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (INJFV)



Good for you.

I'm astonished that a team in Texas, of all places, would succumb to this crap.

Let's face it, if the blacks are upset, you could replace every one of them with a phone call. No problem. The difference between an NFL player and someone who just missed getting a shot at the NFL is probably within the error of judgment of the coach/management.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 09:00 PM (SRKgf)

318 Stand at attention, quietly etc. etc. What about the rule that is written?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 08:57 PM (dCikz)

____

SCOTUS ruled that written words don't mean anything. It's where we are as a nation.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:00 PM (vyHiq)

319 They are claiming it is in response to Trump singling out those who kneel as sons of bitches who should be fired. They are standing with their teammates.
----------

You know what - they can do the can-can to show their solidarity with their teammates any time they want, as far as I'm concerned, EXCEPT during the National Anthem.

They should display the proper respect for our flag and our country. Period. Protest all you want any other time but those two minutes.



Posted by: bluebell at September 25, 2017 09:00 PM (UoSKV)

320 So the Cowboys pulled a Villanueva? (yeah yeah calm down and eff off, it's the HQ, it's a joke)

Raise expectations amidst a s**t-storm .... .then fold.

Ain't about the merits/back-stories. I believe the term "optics" is what the kids love to call it these days.

Could be wrong, but seems a bit clumsy and disastrous of ol Jerry.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (QDnY+)

321 A talk show read the NFL rule on how to behave at playing of the anthem.

Yeah its pretty specific: stand at the sidelines, helmet in one hand, at attention, quietly. That's the rule, but they are just ignoring it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (39g3+)

322 Does anyone know much about home hospice? My BIL thinks it's a scam to collect money. I don't see the bad in it. Hospital and doctors visits are futile at this point.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

===

It depends on the provider. There are many. Explore your options. Choose a large, reputable one, oreferably affiliated with a good local hospital system.

Its a great alternative, especially if you do not want further hospital time. Especially if you want more home time and time with family.

It is not a scam, although anything funded by Medicare is very scammable.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (EZebt)

323 261 The rest are rabid aggressive obnoxious liberals.

You see, these are MN expats I've met here.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 08:49 PM (SRKgf)


Yep. They're like locusts.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (dCikz)

324 Suspension of belief/disbelief.

You watch a movie. You know the actors are actors and not the characters they pretend to be, but as you watch you get caught up in the story and you forget they are actors and start to believe they are the characters.

You watch a football game. You know they are professional athletes getting paid to work for the team/business' owner and not doing it for you the fan, but as you watch you forget all that and feel they are doing it for you, when in reality the only people a pro athlete has less respect for than the fans is the sports media monkeys.

Then the actors or musicians or pro athletes start doing something stupid and attention getting in the real world, like political preaching or whatever, and you can no longer watch them without thinking about their stupid bullshit.

You can't suspend your belief/disbelief. The spell is broken.

And then you stop giving them your attention, which means money to them, because they are no longer entertaining you.

Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (BFYeS)

325 Hi DangerGirl - I guess there is good and bad in
everything, but my dad spent his last week in a hospice care facility
and I cannot say enough good things about those amazing people.

Posted by: Weasel at September 25, 2017 08:47 PM (Sfs6o)


Thank you Weasel. This is home hospice so he will be cared for in his own home by aides/nurses (with his GP on call) along with a social worker and chaplain. Considering there are no options left for his health care, and his chance of recovery is 0%, I can't see how we can go wrong.
Peaches, I'll email you.
Thank you everyone for the information. It is covered by Medicare so financially, we're good. I honestly can't understand my BIL's objection to it. He keeps saying, "they just want to ride the gravy train" but at this point, his four specialists and the hospitals are doing that, by continuously seeing him/admitting him and giving him no help at all.

It is so much better for him to be at home and comfortable.
Thanks again.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (/o9Qk)

326
20 million dollars.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 09:02 PM (2wRtc)

327 310 NFL players:
You have the right to protest Trump tmrw. But aren't there better ways than kneeling before the flag soldiers died to defend?
-Ben Sasse

That doesn't strike me as a terrible thing to say, does it to you?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:59 PM (39g3+)

____

Who ever said they don't have the right? He's advancing the MSM/SJW lie. So fuck him.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:02 PM (vyHiq)

328 Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

Facility hospice care was not an option for me, too cold and isolated. I was very disappointed with the home hospice service as they provided only minimum essential support in my opinion, but at least it was at home. This is where I sort of agree with your BIL.

I did find an independent hospice intensive care service that was a life saver, because I severely underestimated the 24/7 nature and workload of home hospice care. I can't imagine not having an extra pair of hands while doing hospice, and my daughter was here 18-20 hours a day to back me up. I would suggest that you researched such independent hospice providers and have one on speed-dial.

Prayers up!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 09:02 PM (gwPgz)

329 Danger Girl- Check your email.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 09:02 PM (FmJjz)

330 The GOP owns Obamacare. Lock. Stock. And barrel. 8 years of lying conniving and shucking and jiving. The democrats must be laughing their asses off.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 25, 2017 09:02 PM (s28y4)

331 Does anyone know much about home hospice? My BIL thinks it's a scam to collect money. I don't see the bad in it. Hospital and doctors visits are futile at this point.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)

DG,

We had hospice for my father and they were very caring. I'm not sure where you are but they were great.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (Ri/rl)

332 Single Payer is happening, no matter what

I believe so as well. There's too much money and power in controlling so much of the economy to ever turn that down. Congress does not have the courage or character to do so. There is not enough virtue or spine in the entire city of Washington DC to stand up to that for long.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (39g3+)

333 Would you apologize for standing with your hand on your heart facing the flag for the National Anthem?


For 20 million dollars?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (2wRtc)

334 Me, too, Minnfidel. Won't get fooled again, you can take that to the fuckin' bank.
Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:00 PM

Yep. It brings me no joy. I grew up a fan. My first jersey was Fran Tarkenton. Went to games in all 4 stadiums now (man I'm old) , We had season tickets for a while before kids, but still went to games. Used to make a weekend out of driving down to the cities for games, staying in hotels, tailgating etc. Never again, you can take that to the bank. Good job Goodell.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (INJFV)

335 321 A talk show read the NFL rule on how to behave at playing of the anthem.

Yeah its pretty specific: stand at the sidelines, helmet in one hand, at attention, quietly. That's the rule, but they are just ignoring it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (39g3+)

Yes Chris, that's exactly it. So the Steeler who "dissented" was following the rule. Go figure huh?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (dCikz)

336 So.....does Chicago have to re-name Soldier Field?

And what about that statute of the white Doughboy at the entrance? Carrying a rifle?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (5VlCp)

337 Don't make the black kids angry.

(Seems to be the unspoken operative lately)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (EyPfd)

338 He's advancing the MSM/SJW lie.

Um, in what way? He suggested they not disrespect the people who died for the flag, and that's a bad thing? Pretend its not Ben Sasse who said it. Now read it again and see what you think.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:04 PM (39g3+)

339 It is so much better for him to be at home and comfortable.
Thanks again.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (/o9Qk)


Do not underestimate this effect (and I am sure you are not doing so)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 09:04 PM (gwPgz)

340 You mean you're not OK with your sons watching hundreds of homos suck each other's dicks in public? Homophobe.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2017 08:59 PM (NWiLs)


Exactly. And then there's the druggies, and the Commies.

In grad school I briefly dated the daughter of a Berkeley faculty member who had graduated from Berkeley High. She was 19, and I was in my twenties, and she was VASTLY more worldly-wise than I was. She was like a gunnery sergeant. She talked offhandedly about her friends who'd fatally ODed, for example, the way she'd talk about the weather.

Posted by: The Rockettes at September 25, 2017 09:04 PM (SRKgf)

341 Susan Collins will continue to betray this country until she suffers personal repercussions for her betrayals

Posted by: Grad School Fool at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (swEzU)

342 All they need to do, now, is start kissing the ground and they'll be ready for islam.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Forget who said this a day or two back. I'd like to see them do the Macarena, or perhaps the Chicken Dance.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (/qEW2)

343 Don't make the black or the muz kids angry.

(Seems to be the unspoken operative lately)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (EyPfd)

FTFY

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (gwPgz)

344 My BIL thinks it's a scam to collect money.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at September 25, 2017 08:41 PM (/o9Qk)


Tell your super annoying BIL that it's not his money. And then donkey punch him, if necessary. Heck, if I were close enough, I'd do it myself. He sounds super annoying.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (EgOr3)

345 And since when was giving states more power to administer health care "minor"?

Since the feral government never had the right to muck around in individual helath insurance, to begin with.

I thought team red was all for states rights. I guess no more, huh? False dichotomy and such.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 08:58 PM (vyHiq)


There's nothing to be celebrated about a bill that undoes .05% of a totally un-Constitutional, un-American travesty of a criminal piece of legislation. States rights are not something that the feral government gets to vote on and dole out at its whim.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (8gDQu)

346 >>You know what - they can do the can-can to show their solidarity with their teammates any time they want, as far as I'm concerned, EXCEPT during the National Anthem.

>>They should display the proper respect for our flag and our country. Period. Protest all you want any other time but those two minutes.

The players aren't collectively smart enough to understand this and ownership is too cowardly to stand up to the loud mob.

I'm astonished that they can't see that there is an even larger, quieter group that actually pays their bills that has had enough but here we are. This is going to backfire on them bigly, only a matter of when.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (/tuJf)

347 338 He's advancing the MSM/SJW lie.

Um, in what way? He suggested they not disrespect the people who died for the flag, and that's a bad thing? Pretend its not Ben Sasse who said it. Now read it again and see what you think.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:04 PM (39g3+)

____

I don't care who said it. It's a false premise. Nobody said the thugs don't have a right to spit on the flag. They have every right to do so. He's framing it as a battle between having rights and not having rights for the thugs, the same framing as the MSM.

You really don't see this?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (vyHiq)

348 Jerry Jones channeling Susan Collins.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 09:06 PM (INJFV)

349 So.....does Chicago have to re-name Soldier Field?

And what about that statute of the white Doughboy at the entrance? Carrying a rifle?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (5VlCp)



I'm sure it's all very triggering and the statue will have to go and Soldier Field will have to be rename Che Field

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 09:06 PM (auHtY)

350 I feel like the news cycle has been beating me up for about a week.

I get a feeling that PDT & those of us who support him are increasingly isolated. However, the fact that ELECTED DEMs are not piling on is encouraging. They must be leery of being perceived as the BLM Party.

We (conservatives) won what was supposed to be a tough race in GA with Handel. Tomorrow, AL is going to stick its finger in McConnell's eye-- Moore by +8 at least (I really think greater than that).

So... it is what it is. The trench warfare goes on.

Posted by: mnw at September 25, 2017 09:06 PM (zCpUM)

351 Yes Chris, that's exactly it. So the Steeler who "dissented" was following the rule. Go figure huh?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (dCikz)


Ah, but that was yesterday's rule, try to keep up will you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 09:06 PM (gwPgz)

352 Would you apologize for standing with your hand on your heart facing the flag for the National Anthem?

For 20 million dollars?


When told you're going to be benched and your fellow players are making physical threats to you?

I dunno how I'd decide. It seems like a small thing when you put things in balance. Say a stupid statement or lose all that and maybe get hurt seriously?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:07 PM (39g3+)

353 You really don't see this?

*hands decaffeinated coffee and backs away slowly*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (39g3+)

354 There's nothing to be celebrated about a bill that undoes .05% of a totally un-Constitutional, un-American travesty of a criminal piece of legislation. States rights are not something that the feral government gets to vote on and dole out at its whim.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 09:05 PM (8gDQu)

____

I disagree. Giving states the power would have been a step in the right direction. Eliminating the employer mandate would have been an even bigger step. Medical device tax....ditto.

But it's not perfect so it won't happen. Instead we'll get full govt run health care within 5 years. But hey...PRINCIPLES!!

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (vyHiq)

355
So even Rush Limbaugh boycotted. I am going to make a prediction that the nfl behind the scenes is saying to have no more of this next week.

Having the whole organization saying screw the USA ain't gonna fly.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (r+sAi)

356 The GOP owns Obamacare. Lock. Stock. And barrel.
========================

Wow- I sure don't see it that way. Not in the least, in fact.

If the GOP had "fixed" ZeroCare I'd agree, but left as it was the law is exactly as the Democrats passed it with exactly zero GOP votes.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (XlbwU)

357 Yes Chris, that's exactly it. So the Steeler who "dissented" was following the rule. Go figure huh?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (dCikz)

Ah, but that was yesterday's rule, try to keep up will you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 25, 2017 09:06 PM (gwPgz)


The rules are whatever the left says they are and it's all very Calvinball

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (auHtY)

358 And then you stop giving them your attention, which means money to them, because they are no longer entertaining you.
Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2017 09:01 PM (BFYeS)

Holy shit Batman, I think you've got it!

Hit them mfrs in the wallet and you will see how fast shit gets straightened out.

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (ivy+W)

359 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:07 PM (39g3+)

Who reported that he was physically threatened?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (LuKE7)

360 So even Rush Limbaugh boycotted. I am going to make a
prediction that the nfl behind the scenes is saying to have no more of
this next week.

Having the whole organization saying screw the USA ain't gonna fly.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (r+sAi)
Yeah, well, if nobody's watching, will it even happen? They're fucked. They did it to themselves. Hope they all die broke and alone, at this point.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (EgOr3)

361 332 I believe so as well. There's too much money and power in controlling so much of the economy to ever turn that down. Congress does not have the courage or character to do so. There is not enough virtue or spine in the entire city of Washington DC to stand up to that for long.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:03 PM (39g3+)

Controlling the money is secondary.

Controlling DEATH is the big draw.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (Vevy5)

362 JackStraw I think you're right on this (backfiring bigly), but I just wonder how it will unfold.

More whimper, than bang, I would guess. Like the national degradation, that has led to a cold civil war and some aspects of national divorce - gradual and quiet, not dramatic and fast.

Drop in merchandise sales. Drop in TV ratings. Drop in ticket demand (already have seen interesting anecdata about "licenses" having declining prices in the secondary market, dropped below cost-basis at start of season, already showing more decreases in this latest brouhaha).

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (QDnY+)

363 The NFL is about to become the Dixie Chicks of the sports world. Have fun with that guys.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (INJFV)

364 Say a stupid statement or lose all that and maybe get hurt seriously?

Once upon a time in the wild, wild West that was known as courage.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (Tyii7)

365 Prediction:70% of the people swearing up and down they'll never watch a game again will be glued to the TV within 4 weeks. And the other 30% within 8 weeks.

The owners know this which is why they don't give a fuck.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (vyHiq)

366 So even Rush Limbaugh boycotted. I am going to make a prediction that the nfl behind the scenes is saying to have no more of this next week.

Having the whole organization saying screw the USA ain't gonna fly.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (r+sAi)


The same NFL that kept Limbaugh from becoming a part owner of the St. Rams? The NFL will just keep doubling down on this and go the way of ESPN

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (auHtY)

367 Until people understand that the VERY FIRST THING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW about The Left is this :

-THEY WANT YOU DEAD.

...all else is useless.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (Vevy5)

368 Every conservatives civil duty is to punish the NFL, NBA and any other league that would side with these black agitators who are perpetuating a damnable lie.

With their actions they are telling you in no uncertain terms, fuck you whitey!

Well FUCK YOU right back.

I'm out, done.

Fuck it, let's go bowling.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (T9UPW)

369
NHL: Canadian, European and White American players, White fans. No problem.

MLB: Now mostly White and Hispanic players and the same fans. Little problem anticipated.

NBA: Mostly Black players and fans. Will get through this.

NFL: Mostly Black players and mostly White fans. Game not played anywhere except the US (and Canada). This will end badly.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (r7TEN)

370 Okay, now, this doesn't even seem like news to me.

Which is good, b/c I've been Pandora Post-A-Lot all day.

This non-surprise means I got nothing to say or be outraged about. lol Feels good!

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (7TeYi)

371 NFL players:
You have the right to protest Trump tmrw. But aren't there better ways than kneeling before the flag soldiers died to defend?
-Ben Sasse

That doesn't strike me as a terrible thing to say, does it to you?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 08:59 PM (39g3+)

--------

The protests were started before Trump commented. Sasse in only commenting to oppose Trump.

His other twit:

"btw, Trump wants you to kneel because it divides the nation, with him and the flag on the same side. Don't give him the attention he wants."

He is simply being anti-Trump and pro-protest. It is all about opposing Trump and his supporters. Ben Sasse is an ass and a perfect example of everything wrong with the Republican party neverTRUMP brigade.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (giT7q)

372 obamecare: So bad Congress is exempt
So good you have to buy it

Posted by: Phildirt at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (v3rvc)

373 363
The NFL is about to become the Dixie Chicks of the sports world. Have fun with that guys.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (INJFV)
That is comment perfection. I bow to your general awesomeness!

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (EgOr3)

374 My prediction: The NFL decides no more National Anthem.

Posted by: davidt at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (BFYeS)

375 Yeah, well, if nobody's watching, will it even happen? They're fucked. They did it to themselves. Hope they all die broke and alone, at this point.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (EgOr3)


Do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (dCikz)

376 And when I say that, I include the GOPe as part of The Left.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (Vevy5)

377 Prediction:70% of the people swearing up and down they'll never watch a game again will be glued to the TV within 4 weeks. And the other 30% within 8 weeks.

The owners know this which is why they don't give a fuck.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (vyHiq)



I hadn't missed a Bears game since Walter Payton's rookie season. I haven't watched a second of football all of last year or this one.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 25, 2017 09:11 PM (auHtY)

378 I dunno how I'd decide. It seems like a small thing
when you put things in balance. Say a stupid statement or lose all
that and maybe get hurt seriously?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 25, 2017 09:07 PM (39g3+)
Villanueva is an offensive tackle...you don't want to piss off the guy protecting your sweet, sweet protesting ass. They'll get over it.

Posted by: Canibal Bob's Girl (aka Heidi) at September 25, 2017 09:11 PM (dCikz)

379 "and you will see how fast shit gets straightened out."

I'm not too sure I want it straightened out.

I'm fine with fatally wounded

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 25, 2017 09:11 PM (EyPfd)

380 356 The GOP owns Obamacare. Lock. Stock. And barrel.
========================

Wow- I sure don't see it that way. Not in the least, in fact.

If the GOP had "fixed" ZeroCare I'd agree, but left as it was the law is exactly as the Democrats passed it with exactly zero GOP votes.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (XlbwU)

____

They are in charge now. So they own it. And the MSM will make sure to remind everyone how the GOP is in charge and failed to fix it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:11 PM (vyHiq)

381 I dunno how I'd decide. It seems like a small thing when you put things
in balance. Say a stupid statement or lose all that and maybe get hurt
seriously?
===

I am sure that his current net worth is not insignificant. But this is a guy that went through the hell of Ranger training and rescued wounded soldiers under enemy fire.

I can't understand.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (2wRtc)

382 Rugby- nothing else to be said.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (FmJjz)

383 Danger Girl,

We had home hospice care. My dad had Medicare and a secondary insurance. I don't recall how much it cost.

My father was much more comfortable at home. We did hire a private nurse to come and help and we had to pay cash for that.
The hospice people were great.

Prayers sent, I know how difficult it is.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (Ri/rl)

384 Controlling the money is secondary.

Controlling DEATH is the big draw.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:09 PM (Vevy5)


Yep. When the government is paying for your health insurance/care that same government gets to tell you what you can and can't do ("Since we're paying the doctor's bills!"). Control of health care is the entree to being able to control every single aspect of an individual's life.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (8gDQu)

385 Fuck it, let's go bowling.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (T9UPW)

Curling. Its like bowling on ice with brooms.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (dCikz)

386 Guy, also saw an unsourced claim of indeterminate authenticity, anonymous post, that behind the scenes there was indeed panic in the league front office and in team front offices. Bottom line - recognition of what a catastrophe this was, for the NFL of all leagues with its strong patriotic profile, and just fear of ..... the race-baiting and race-focus, and how possibly to deal with it.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (QDnY+)

387 I am going to make a prediction that the nfl behind the scenes is saying to have no more of this next week.

Having the whole organization saying screw the USA ain't gonna fly.
--

I predict it will go the other way.

They will double or triple down on the SJW/ BLM hate. Just like the libs are tripling down on the FAB.

/Dixie Chicks for the Super Bowl Halftime?

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (aT+Bx)

388 A buddy of mine went to the Chargers game yesterday. Said the place was practically empty. Which, of course, made it really nice for him, but I hear the Rams game was the same. Die, NFL, just fuckin' die.

Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (EgOr3)

389 Sweet fucking pickles, are we still talking football?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (RrhD2)

390 Hospice here in ETEX was just the best when Mrs. E's Auntie passed away here in our home. They were some of the most generous and caring people I have ever met. Don't do this alone. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (zLDYs)

391 So even Rush Limbaugh boycotted. I am going to make a prediction that the nfl behind the scenes is saying to have no more of this next week.
Having the whole organization saying screw the USA ain't gonna fly.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (r+sAi)

Yup.....and President Trump has them boxed in now.

What are they going to do next week? and the week after that? etc, etc.

The leftists hate it when they get punched back and it shows. Keep punching Mr. President!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (5VlCp)

392 You have the right to protest Trump tmrw. But aren't there better ways than kneeling before the flag soldiers died to defend?
-Ben Sasse


What were they protesting before they started protesting Trump, Ben?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (LTHVh)

393 "btw, Trump wants you to kneel because it divides the nation, with him and the flag on the same side. Don't give him the attention he wants."

Posted by: RioBravo at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (giT7q)

___

He is right about that. Which is why Trump is the troll master he is. He's framed the issue as "flag and me" vs "anti-flag and them". It's actually pretty fucking smart politically.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (vyHiq)

394 Socialism has its supporters, she's in bed with them all.

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (4pjhs)

395
Its more than whether somebody watches or not, its jersey sales and everything else. Who wants to be seen in a nfl jersey that is now synonymous with hating America?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (r+sAi)

396 My husband has solved the whole MNF quandary. He is watching a 1971 MNF game on YouTube with Howard Cosell. The Redskins are winning! There may not be anyone else here but me who remembers when the 'Skins used to win.

Posted by: bluebell at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (UoSKV)

397 384 Yep. When the government is paying for your health insurance/care that same government gets to tell you what you can and can't do ("Since we're paying the doctor's bills!"). Control of health care is the entree to being able to control every single aspect of an individual's life.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (8gDQu)

Everybody underestimates how much Those In Power want to have the power to demand somebody die right in front of their eyes. The desire to get that level of a power rush.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (Vevy5)

398 >>Fuck it, let's go bowling.


Can we swing by the In 'n Out Burger on Melrose?

Posted by: Donny at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (fa3G7)

399 So Jones and the Cowgirls kneeled....what did the Arizona Cardinals do?

Posted by: Tami at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (Enq6K)

400 Also... can someone start calling out these RINOs like McCain who RAN on repealing Obamacare, and now that they have a chance, they are all about "purity."

How many non pure votes did they sign when Their Lord Obama was in office?

These people are pathological liars.

Stop supporting them.

Primary them.

Shame them in public.

Posted by: shibumi at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (aT+Bx)

401 388 A buddy of mine went to the Chargers game yesterday. Said the place was practically empty. Which, of course, made it really nice for him, but I hear the Rams game was the same. Die, NFL, just fuckin' die.
Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (EgOr3)

____

It's L.A.

If the stadium is 1/2 empty in Green Bay or Pittsburg next week then we can celebrate. But 1/2 empty NFL stadiums in LA....meh. It's kind of why both LA teams left 20 years ago remember?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (vyHiq)

402 That is comment perfection. I bow to your general awesomeness!
Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM

Thanks. I am sure the new NFL Tribal Casino league is going to be awesome!

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (INJFV)

403 Disappointed in Sasse.

Posted by: mnw at September 25, 2017 09:16 PM (zCpUM)

404 Better watch out. Next time there's a Canadian war they might not-only refuse to annex Maine, but they might force you to take Quebec too

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 09:16 PM (6FqZa)

405 Any Texas Morons willing to send me a Whataburger?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:16 PM (Vevy5)

406 rhomboid: "More whimper, than bang, I would guess."

Most likely. It took decades of cultivation to make it the "universal" sport that it is (outside of futbol); it'll take time for its torch to dim but dim it will.

And the architects of the franchises will lie to themselves and pay others to lie to them about how it's elections and hurricanes and the Aurora Borealis that are hiding the game's true popularity.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 25, 2017 09:16 PM (H8S+R)

407 398 >>Fuck it, let's go bowling.

Can we swing by the In 'n Out Burger on Melrose?

Posted by: Donny at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (fa3G7)

I have always sucked at bowling but its been fun. i would enjoy it more if there were faces on the pins.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:16 PM (dCikz)

408 They'll still burn down the Capitol again, so, they'll do you that favour

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 09:16 PM (6FqZa)

409 Does anyone else find it funny that the NFL is going to war over the actions of a player who isn't even good enough to have a job as a backup in the NFL?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (/tuJf)

410 . Who wants to be seen in a nfl jersey that is now synonymous with hating America?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (r+sAi)

_____

Oooh oooh oooh me me me me

Posted by: Everyone working in the MSM at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (vyHiq)

411 Yep. When the government is paying for your health insurance/care that
same government gets to tell you what you can and can't do ("Since we're
paying the doctor's bills!"). Control of health care is the entree to
being able to control every single aspect of an individual's life.

Heh, the lady clerk at the driver's license office today laughed when I said I was revoking my donor designation. She said, yeah, I figured. I had the heart crossed out and had written HELL NO! She was amused.

Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (bfUpy)

412 Curling. Its like bowling on ice with brooms.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (dCikz)

Cannibal Bob loves the 11th end bar at the curling club. Couldn't find his way past the hog line if his life depended on it!!!

Posted by: Canibal Bob's Girl (aka Heidi) at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (dCikz)

413 Control of health care is the entree to being able to control every single aspect of an individual's life.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (8gDQu)


Oh, that would never happen here!

Posted by: NHS Liverpool Care Pathway at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (gwPgz)

414 365 Prediction:70% of the people swearing up and down they'll never watch a game again will be glued to the TV within 4 weeks. And the other 30% within 8 weeks.

The owners know this which is why they don't give a fuck.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:10 PM (vyHiq)



This hovers at the back of my mind. If that happens, we have lost a great opportunity as a country to fight back...to turn the tide culturally. And we will have re-enforced the owners' view of us as doormats.

I did a post, 722, in last thread that got willowed. I didn't bring it over. But IMO the stakes are kinda high. Ya only get so many opportunities, and then the tipping points run out, and it's over.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (7TeYi)

415 Sasse strikes me as a compulsive masturbator. He's even written a book. It's titled "Look How Conservative I Am".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 25, 2017 09:18 PM (6FqZa)

416 Man, Trump is the greatest exposer of RINOs and SJWs ever. He tweets, and they just cannot wait another moment to out themselves.

Posted by: Splunge


^^^yup^^^ he is an exposer. Many so called conservatives (by which I mean me) have neglected duties in the past in preventing these vermin from infesting Congress.

At this point, much of what he can do is limited to calling attention to the problem, and he is brilliant at doing that. He cannot drain the swamp of elected officials (or consumption of products from hostile corporations for that matter). Only we can do that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 25, 2017 09:18 PM (/qEW2)

417 >>>Can we swing by the In 'n Out Burger on Melrose?

Those are good burgers, and SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNY!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 25, 2017 09:18 PM (RrhD2)

418
The Duke of Norfolk: Oh confound all this. I'm not a scholar, I don't know whether the marriage was lawful or not but - dammit, Thomas, look at these names! Why can't you do as I did and come with us, for fellowship?

Sir Thomas More: And when we die, and you are sent to heaven for doing your conscience, and I am sent to hell for not doing mine, will you come with me, for fellowship?

A Man For All Seasons

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 25, 2017 09:18 PM (R3Z03)

419 I can't get worked up about Collins' vote. The legislation is probably a piece of shit anyway. I'm not going to look into it. I've given up.

The government is going to fuck up health care for everyone except the ultra-rich, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 25, 2017 09:18 PM (398bZ)

420 So I flew today and as is usual on Mondays, tons of people in their NFL jerseys, heading home. Not only do these people pay money to watch America hating thugs, they also pay money to fly/stay at a hotel to see their favorite thugs.

If you think these people are giving up their NFL crack cocaine, you're crazy.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:19 PM (vyHiq)

421 Jerry jones like a 10 year old kid did it just after the anthem... F them ....like an f'n little spoiled kid that needs an ass whoopin

Posted by: E.T. at September 25, 2017 09:19 PM (P1GJy)

422 I am sure that his current net worth is not insignificant. But this is a guy that went through the hell of Ranger training and rescued wounded soldiers under enemy fire.

I can't understand.

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (2wRtc)

What the few patriotic NFL players should do is quietly ensure that shit-disturbers gradually get weeded out of the game due to career-ending injuries.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 09:19 PM (O848g)

423 >>>Fuck it, let's go bowling.

The Banana Splits Lifestyle is like the BORG.
ALL WILL BE ASSIMILATED

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 25, 2017 09:19 PM (RrhD2)

424 Heads up, corgis

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 25, 2017 09:19 PM (FQKBL)

425
There's a kick in the face. Take a knee and lock arms.

I'm done with them after supporting them faithfully since 1960.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 25, 2017 09:20 PM (S/hVx)

426 Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 25, 2017 09:08 PM (XlbwU)

Yeah the Democrats passed it by themselves. And for 8 fucking years the GOP postured and preened and lied through their teeth about repealing it. Repealing it. Not that repeal and replace shit...repeal. Only cause they knew Barky McFuckstick would never sign what they sent him.

Sorry friend, but you have been lied to and sold a shit sammich. Now just take a big ole bite and enjoy the rain on your back.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 25, 2017 09:20 PM (s28y4)

427 400 Sheboom

Can't primary McCain. Primary-proof.

Can primary his BFB Flake in AZ, though!

Dr. Kelli Ward, Tempe, AZ. The doctor is in!

Posted by: mnw at September 25, 2017 09:20 PM (zCpUM)

428 409 Does anyone else find it funny that the NFL is going to war over the actions of a player who isn't even good enough to have a job as a backup in the NFL?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (/tuJf)


Oh, yes, it's hilarious. You're right, it's worth pausing to enjoy that.

But: I read that he might well be good enough to be a backup QB, but he's asking for more money than that role pays. As the man said, SJWs always double down. Also, what team wants the hassle? Ever know a guy who thrived on ostentatious political displays, but did great work anyway? Me neither.

Also, this particular round of posturing seems to be about hating on Trump. Because that's such a smart play to put on when your audience is the NFL audience.

Posted by: Splunge at September 25, 2017 09:20 PM (Vb4BV)

429 I re-grouted my patio on Sunday. Art Rooney II can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 25, 2017 09:21 PM (89T5c)

430 I agree with the moron who wishes the player die broke and alone, and I'll add sick.

Posted by: CN at September 25, 2017 09:21 PM (5gaNQ)

431
This hovers at the back of my mind. If that happens, we have lost a great opportunity as a country to fight back...to turn the tide culturally. And we will have re-enforced the owners' view of us as doormats.

I did a post, 722, in last thread that got willowed. I didn't bring it over. But IMO the stakes are kinda high. Ya only get so many opportunities, and then the tipping points run out, and it's over.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla aka Pandora's Box of Hope at September 25, 2017 09:17 PM (7TeYi)

____

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

This is kind of like someone looking in the mirror one day and thinking, fuck I need to lose weight. So they go on a diet for a week or two, drop a few pounds. But then slowly but surely it's back to the same bad habits that made you a tub of lard in the first place. And before you know the weight is back and the diet is a distant memory.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:21 PM (vyHiq)

432 Hikaru @ 405- Come on to Texas and any one of us will take you to Whatburger and you can pick anything you want off the menu. Free.

Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2017 09:22 PM (zLDYs)

433
If you think these people are giving up their NFL crack cocaine, you're crazy.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:19 PM (vyHiq)

It could be that they were already there when the shit storm started on Sat? But then why would they wear their jersey's? Minorities?

Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 09:22 PM (bfUpy)

434 nood

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 25, 2017 09:23 PM (Z8R9P)

435 >>If you think these people are giving up their NFL crack cocaine, you're crazy.

Last year, the NFL teams split $6 billion in television revenues. That is more than most teams make in ticket sales.

And those are the people that matter because those people are much less dedicated. And those are the people that should be scaring the shit out of NFL owners not to mention the players if they have any brains at all.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 09:23 PM (/tuJf)

436 Everybody underestimates how much Those In Power want to have the power to demand somebody die right in front of their eyes. The desire to get that level of a power rush.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:14 PM (Vevy5)

Then why is Nidal Hassan still wasting oxygen? There's a death we could all get behind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at September 25, 2017 09:23 PM (O848g)

437 It could be that they were already there when the shit storm started on Sat? But then why would they wear their jersey's? Minorities?
Posted by: Infidel at September 25, 2017 09:22 PM (bfUpy)

___


Well I didn't take inventory of every single one I saw, but if I had to guess it was pretty much all white dudes in their 20s and 30s.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:24 PM (vyHiq)

438 Last year, the NFL teams split $6 billion in television revenues. That is more than most teams make in ticket sales.

And those are the people that matter because those people are much less dedicated. And those are the people that should be scaring the shit out of NFL owners not to mention the players if they have any brains at all.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 25, 2017 09:23 PM (/tuJf)

___

I wonder how much of that is directly related to gambling, including fantasy. I'm guessing it has to be at least 1/2, maybe more. And those degenerates aren't going to stop being degenerates because of kneeling.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:26 PM (vyHiq)

439 Burn it all to the fucking ground.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 25, 2017 09:26 PM (NWiLs)

440 388 A buddy of mine went to the Chargers game yesterday. Said the place was practically empty. Which, of course, made it really nice for him, but I hear the Rams game was the same. Die, NFL, just fuckin' die.
Posted by: Peaches at September 25, 2017 09:13 PM (EgOr3)

____

It's L.A.

If the stadium is 1/2 empty in Green Bay or Pittsburg next week then we can celebrate. But 1/2 empty NFL stadiums in LA....meh. It's kind of why both LA teams left 20 years ago remember?
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 25, 2017 09:15 PM (vyHiq)

Shit! I remember watching the Chargers play when John Hadl and Dan Fouts were the quarterbacks. You couldn't get into Jack Murphy Stadium back in the day. But then, I also remember watching the Padres play in the PCL before they became a national league team.

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 25, 2017 09:27 PM (ivy+W)

441 432 Hikaru @ 405- Come on to Texas and any one of us will take you to Whatburger and you can pick anything you want off the menu. Free.
Posted by: Eromero at September 25, 2017 09:22 PM (zLDYs)

Got to go 3 times when visiting a friend from Dallas.

But he's looking to come up where I am because his company has been cutting jobs rapidly.

Otherwise I'd be looking to try to have him help me find a job down there.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 25, 2017 09:27 PM (Vevy5)

442 Burn it all to the fucking ground.
===

Som!

How's the contract gig going?

I am a total dick.

How are you?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 25, 2017 09:28 PM (2wRtc)

443 Control of health care is the entree to being able to control every single aspect of an individual's life.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 25, 2017 09:12 PM (8gDQu)
---
I said in 2008, we're health(care).

Posted by: Axeman at September 25, 2017 09:29 PM (2mC6G)

444 old Jerry only said ... we still despise America, but we really DO want the money from the patriotic Americans that have family that died for our freedom. So we protest America BEFORE the anthem ... see, does that fool you rubes?

FU Jerry ... we ain't that stupid.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 25, 2017 09:32 PM (yKAUL)

445 Oh thank God that's over!!!! I'm in pain, like he cares.

I hope Fat Boy sleeps on his stomach the next few nights. I need a break.

Signing off.

Posted by: Country Boy's ass - a GNAMM casualty at September 26, 2017 01:59 AM (4n92b)

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