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Jaguars, Ravens Take the Knee During National Anthem In Overseas London Game; Pittsburgh Steelers Refuse to Come Out of Locker Room for National Anthem
This is in response, they say, to Trump's criticism of players taking the knee for the national anthem.
But their method of protest seems to always involve disrespecting the flag of the nation that's paying them millions of dollars to play a game and get blowjobs from groupies for a career. Here's one exception:Alejandro Villanueva, a US Army Captain, Army Ranger, and Bronze Star Recepient, refused to stay in the locker room for the national anthem. pic.twitter.com/zATA7JuqrY
— #MenendezTrial (@NewtTrump) September 24, 2017
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 24, 2017 01:59 PM (5sQ8t)
Posted by: Wacko at September 24, 2017 02:00 PM (BKfMr)
Posted by: Ever at September 24, 2017 02:00 PM (QZdJj)
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 24, 2017 02:01 PM (qaWk6)
Posted by: willy at September 24, 2017 02:01 PM (hkz6+)
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:02 PM (GsAUU)
The Truth, overlooked for tradition and pastime's sake, is that most athletes are Overpaid Shits.
That's no longer gonna be overlooked. People have had enough of these stunts.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:02 PM (+pGz/)
I was watching the Philadelphia Eagles home opener. Giant flag to cover the field, air force flyover, terrific rendition of the National Anthem. Philly players locked arms. I saw a few raised fists.
Kill the Golden Goose. Don't care.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (EgwCt)
Stop watching them on TV.
Stop buying their merchandise.
Fuck these guys. They want to spit in the face of the country that made them stupid rich for playing a stupid game? Fine, but people don't have to support it with their hard-earned money. I hope the organization goes down in flames.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (UnDQI)
NFL looks a million times worse in this context.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (XFue2)
OK then...
Wow.... just wow... could you CHOOSE worse optics?
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 24, 2017 01:59 PM (5sQ8t)
--He's an offensive lineman.
Quarterbacks and running backs do *not* want to piss off the guys blocking for them.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (39g3+)
Prediction:
Next week we'll be seeing FANS in the seats taking KNEES during the anthem.
You can bet your asses this is gonna happen, AND Fake News will have their cameras on them (as if they knew ahead of time it was gonna happen). Mark my words.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: True the Note at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (HLTe8)
This FAKE racist idiotic protest still has room to get worse.
I guaransoothsayertee some Fans in the seats will take knees next week.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:05 PM (+pGz/)
When I saw that Trump was using this issue, I knew it was the perfect target, and the lunatic progs would be baited into defending the indefensible, again.
Didn't realize that I was going to be sucked into it, realizing now how crazy it was for me to be cheering for a team that hates my country, and implicitly hates me.
Thanks Mike Tomlin and crew for being honest. Go Bears!
Posted by: Wacko at September 24, 2017 02:05 PM (BKfMr)
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 24, 2017 02:05 PM (h7sWp)
OK then...
Wow.... just wow... could you CHOOSE worse optics?
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
Badmouthing a president while on foreign soil worked out great for us!
Posted by: The Dixie Bitches at September 24, 2017 02:05 PM (yzxic)
Prediction:
Next week we'll be seeing FANS in the seats taking KNEES during the anthem.
You can bet your asses this is gonna happen, AND Fake News will have their cameras on them (as if they knew ahead of time it was gonna happen). Mark my words.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (+pGz/)
and that's when the fight started your Honor...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:05 PM (NgKpN)
AA multimillionaires are a rather small subset of the total U.S. population.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 02:05 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:06 PM (+pGz/)
NFL can't die a fast enough death.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 02:06 PM (XFue2)
AA multimillionaires are a rather small subset of the total U.S. population.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 02:05 PM (v6Osy)
If that's oppression, then I want me some of that.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:06 PM (NWiLs)
So the players have made the battleground: Trump = respect America Protestors= crap on America
God his enemies are stupid
Posted by: Tradd at September 24, 2017 02:07 PM (7+kA5)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, let's just give 'em another inch. We've given them so many inches, they've circled the globe twice now.
Not coming out during the anthem is just another form of their protest.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 02:07 PM (Enq6K)
Good on him. One decent person in a league increasing filled with shitheads
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:07 PM (auHtY)
If the team cuts him, I will happily dedicate $10 a month to his upkeep, along with several million other people.c
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 02:07 PM (oVJmc)
You can argue that Hillary had more voters than Trump, but there is no way that you can argue that voters who routinely watch the NFL were primarily in the Hillary camp.
There will be a small bump from liberals who suddenly "run to support their comrades," but will it last? Will they actually pay the steep ticket prices, and such, for long?
Yeah, sure...
Posted by: RobM1981 at September 24, 2017 02:07 PM (VVBN7)
Do our Trumpenwaffenfuhrer overlords in the White Supremacist Movement know about this?
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (qaWk6)
Today? 12 listings below cost basis, starting at $800 per seat.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (70QTT)
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (GsAUU)
Fake News needs to craft this Narrative to make it seem it has Majority Support.
So they need Fake Fans to get involved now.
That means Fake News will install plants or the Left will install plants in the seats, and fake interviews of these fake fans will occur to send the message that all nfl fans are totally supportive of this fake race-based idiotic protest
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Melting snowflakes at September 24, 2017 02:09 PM (/zwDg)
Cancel their games. Every game. All of them. Stupid virtue-flare-gunning assholes.
Posted by: Flobtangular Sod at September 24, 2017 02:09 PM (tQ5dy)
I am fine with neither team being on the field during the anthem, by policy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:09 PM (39g3+)
Do our Trumpenwaffenfuhrer overlords in the White Supremacist Movement know about this?
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (sdi6R)
Ja, I mean yes. Ve..we haff orders as long as he's white Hispanic
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:09 PM (auHtY)
This is about using their employer's forum to air their own grievances.
Since this all started because Kaperdick attributed an American flag to police brutality, why don't the players go over to the on duty police officers at Heinz Field providing security and spit on them? Why insult the flag, which is so much more than just about police?
So Tomlin is gonna keep them ALL hiding in the locker room? What about the players that DO want to stand for the anthem/flag? Can they tell him to piss off? Does their free speech count?
What does Villaneuva think about this? We know the answer to that question.
So Big Ben is a big supporter of the police, and pays for K9s for various departments. What does he think about this? Since we're all about free speech, is he allowed to say what he thinks on the field? How much ya wanna bet this is his final season?
Can players now tell the NFL to piss off about wearing hot pink all of October? Is that how this "free speech on your employers time"thing works?"
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 02:10 PM (nWmg2)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 02:10 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 02:10 PM (zkGZ8)
They'd put John Wayne Gacy out there if he was still available, & people would pay to see him.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 02:10 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:09 PM (39g3+)
Why? Why are you fine with that?
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 02:10 PM (Enq6K)
If the team cuts him, I will happily dedicate $10 a month to his upkeep, along with several million other people.c
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 02:07 PM (oVJmc)
--He's doing fine.
He also does ads for USAA.
I hope Trump attends the Army-Navy game again this year.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:11 PM (GsAUU)
Prediction:
Next week we'll be seeing FANS in the seats taking KNEES during the anthem.
You can bet your asses this is gonna happen, AND Fake News will have their cameras on them (as if they knew ahead of time it was gonna happen). Mark my words.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (+pGz/)
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Oh, dude...a player's gonna light a mini American flag on fire during the anthem within a month. Or tear up a paper one.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 02:11 PM (70QTT)
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 24, 2017 02:11 PM (qaWk6)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2017 02:11 PM (PDCx8)
Posted by: Lefty Tropes of Tomorrow at September 24, 2017 02:11 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (XFue2)
Even fewer of them are TV sports viewers. I do know some, but they are outnumbered significantly by people who love America and wave the flag. You would get a very tiny number of people who'd boycott the NFL for benching these players, but would not have lost the far larger number of fans who are annoyed you did not.
Now its turned into this solidarity thing, so the owners would have to bench the whole damn team. They let it get out of control and now its going to cost them dearly. It already is.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Czar Peter at September 24, 2017 02:11 PM (qaWk6)
I posted this in the previous thread:
One person has been killed and at least six others have been wounded in a shooting at the Burnett Chapel Church of Christ in Antioch.
Police have confirmed that multiple people have been shot at Burnette Chapel Church in Antioch on Pin Hook road.
The Nashville Fire Department eight people were shot inside the church. The shooter was among those injured.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (Enq6K)
I'm watching the Philadelphia Eagles. OTA cheap-ass antennae, making a list of advertisers who won't see a dime from me. Samsung -- hmm. South Korean company. Hate to put them on the shit list. But.
Not really watching-watching. Just background noise.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (EgwCt)
Posted by: Tradd
________
I thought it was decent of Trump to bring Herschel Walker onto "Celebrity Apprentice."
Go, Generals!
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (zkGZ8)
+1000
When they do this in uniform, they ARE representing the Team...
That the owners did not slap this down at the outset, meant they APPROVED the behavior...
That they have now sided with BLM, over Vets and Conservatives... shows their true colors...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (NgKpN)
Brilliant plan. Maybe next they can get a sharpie and write TRUMP SUCKS on an an American flag and then burn it. That'll show him.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at September 24, 2017 02:13 PM (x/Lj2)
But they already are intertwined and have been for a good while. So I'm not going to let a bunch of America-hating swine have their way without consequences. The NFL gets no more of my time and money.
It's an easy decision to make anyway, because the league's product has sucked for quite a while in many respects.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 02:13 PM (H5knJ)
Go sniff some toes. It will make you feel all better
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:13 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 24, 2017 02:14 PM (d5OWu)
for the NY Giants, one guy was selling a seat in my section for less
than the $1,000 per seat we paid for them.
Today? 12 listings below cost basis, starting at $800 per seat.
.
.
.And there is nary a single player protesting the Flag or anthem by any Dallas Cowboys players, which is the most successful NFL Franchise on the market right now.
Guarantee that would change if they started protesting, but the owner and head coach has pretty much shut the door on any player protests from the Cowboys.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 24, 2017 02:14 PM (+Dllb)
You left out, "and very few leftists can pay $172 for a ticket, either, because a great many of them work the same hours as Santa Claus."
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (v6Osy)
Knelt for the US national anthem but stood for God Save the Queen. Let the stupid, bastards stay there
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Crimso at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (uCLNU)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (z2W2E)
and I would like to know how these Very Fortunate Players can even square this with How fortunate they Are because the live in such a country this is possible.
Media propaganda and constant offal, is trainwrecking the best deal the world has had.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (FKrah)
In one sense, it avoids the whole distraction of being the center of attention while TV cameras pan and wait to get their prized moment by focusing on guys who are protesting. Unfortunately ... and this is where even the right intentions can get thrown off track every time ... the media take this and run with it. If a team simply avoids coming out for the anthem, that gives the media yet one more chance to celebrate controversy (which is what they want). On any given team, there may be far more players who want to stand or simply want to avoid the whole situation.
So, by avoiding the anthem (and thinking that was a way to avoid the distraction), the Steelers unintentionally may have given the media more of what they want.
Which is always unfortunate.
Posted by: BethinPA at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (60OJF)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (FKrah)
the "fanatics" that are mostly white middle class that put money and
time and energy into loving this sport dominated by blacks. Their fans
probably work with blacks, tailgate with them, but also fly a flag and
have family in the military.
THOSE are the people directly
"flipped off" when they say "sorry your family died fighting for
freedom, but we still think all whites are racist, and so disrespect the
whole America concept". (but still want to live here cuz every other
place is so MUCH worse).
Scott Adams tried to argue it is not
hypocritical just because they make a lot of money, since they are
indeed willing to risk that income to make their point. But I think the
big money IS the point ... all systems have problems but they took the
Big Money from the middle class whites that they directly insult. It is
not the White Globalists really funding them, it is the middle class
white fan that paid $200+ (ticket/tailgate//parking/beer/time) to see
them play, instead watches them spit in their face.
Sorry Scott
... pointing out how much they extract from the non-racist white guy is a
very valid point, not "the stupidest thing". Just cuz they risk losing
money doesn't make the point invalid. The whole "Gangster Mentality"
often costs 'them" money, but doesn't make it noble.
( I couldn't find where I saw Scott's point, it was maybe slightly different, but I think he missed the thrust of "their salary is proof America is NOT racist" or oppressive to blacks)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:16 PM (yKAUL)
And it seems the NFL was Tax Exempt for decades.... but then VOLUNTARILY gave that up in 2015 as it was not a correct IRS designation...
/hands President Trump the IRS Phone Number...
That's a lot of Back Taxes Mr. President...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:16 PM (NgKpN)
I am fine with neither team being on the field during the anthem, by policy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:09 PM (39g3+)
That raises an interesting question. When did playing the National Anthem before a sporting event start?
I think the Star-Spangled Banner was only officially adopted in the 1930s.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:16 PM (sdi6R)
for the NY Giants, one guy was selling a seat in my section for less
than the $1,000 per seat we paid for them.
Today? 12 listings below cost basis, starting at $800 per seat.
.
.
.And there is nary a single player protesting the Flag or anthem by any Dallas Cowboys players, which is the most successful NFL Franchise on the market right now.
Guarantee that would change if they started protesting, but the owner and head coach has pretty much shut the door on any player protests from the Cowboys.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 24, 2017 02:14 PM (+Dllb)
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That's what kills me:
There's a great marketing chance here to become the new "America's Team," and these wealthy degenerates are too cowardly to be the first one to move and claim that mantle.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 02:17 PM (70QTT)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 02:17 PM (LTHVh)
Do our Trumpenwaffenfuhrer overlords in the White Supremacist Movement know about this?
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (sdi6R)
That's not a real German word, you uneducated rube.
*sniffs superciliously*
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:17 PM (NWiLs)
There is always gonna be the turd in the punch bowl. But the coach and the thus the owners sided with the turd. They're done.
I was shocked and gratified by the number of Steeler fans on local social media ripping their asses over this. They've fucked up so very badly, and their too blinded by their own faux virtue to realize it.
Next, I want to see the City of Pittsburgh police tell the Rooneys to find someone else to provide security for the games.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 02:18 PM (nWmg2)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 02:18 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 02:18 PM (XFue2)
They're already saying it. What do all these players Trump disrespected have in common? Melanin! RACISSSSSSSSSSS
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 02:18 PM (FKrah)
--I agree.
Tomlin is a pretty thoughtful guy. He reminds me of Tony Dungy.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: jayhawkone at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (ZD+J8)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 02:18 PM (FKrah)
You've been doing it your entire working life. It's called mandatory withholding.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Michael Bennett at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (cQdY5)
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (XKZwp)
I haven't missed a Bears game since Walter Payton's rookie season but haven't watched a game since last year. The next time these uneducated, bastards take a knee it should be begging fans to forgive them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (auHtY)
If average Americans push back and fight back against these disgusting displays of Anti-Americanism, we take the fight to them and expose them for what they are.
The Leftisits have been getting away with this $hit for too long.
Posted by: MeMyselfandI at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (94+2G)
I don't think that those doing this even think that way. On the left the "rich" and corporations all have a big stash o' cash which they horde. They'll see nobody coming to the games as meaning that those wealthy rich pigs will have to redistribute some of their ill gotten gains to those poor starving players aka the workers.
Posted by: geoffb at September 24, 2017 02:20 PM (zOpu5)
It can be a secret ballot, but I want to know how the teams vote.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:20 PM (yKAUL)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (WmgTn)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 02:18 PM (nWmg2)
Exactly. These assholes want their cake and eat it too. It's about time the cops told them to go fck themselves.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (auHtY)
Pull all military and national support.
No flags.
Let the vets in the NFL resign and tear up their contracts.
Seriously, they want this, let them have it.
I will never watch another game.
I am long in the tooth, and I have no idea how many days I have left, but NONE of them are going to give any of these guys the time of day.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 02:22 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Pittsburgh Cops at September 24, 2017 02:22 PM (cQdY5)
and Trump is to blame for noticing?
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 02:23 PM (FKrah)
Tomlin's explanation stripped down to its essentials: We had to burn down the village to save it.
No sale.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 02:23 PM (H5knJ)
If you ask USFL fans, a lot of them blame Trump for its demise. The 30 for 30 show on the USFL shows it wasn't him (the league was already on the skids, he might have been able to save it if they'd listened) but they list it as a reason to hate Trump.
Prayers for the people of Burnett Chapel Church of Christ.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:23 PM (39g3+)
Believe I read somewhere - I think on this blog - about how contracts in the sporting world work, and how reduced viewership does not actually impact team revenues / athlete pay (or something of that effect). I wonder how much time lag there is for such an effect, and who's feeling the crunch right now (the stadium municipalities / owners / tenants, the television providers and distributors [e.g. time warner, espn etc.), the team owners or nfl network? Who's actually feeling the crunch AT THIS MOMENT?
Posted by: geewhiz at September 24, 2017 02:24 PM (fjSw0)
When Fish Frys Go Wrong?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:24 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 02:24 PM (mpXpK)
I think the Star-Spangled Banner was only officially adopted in the 1930s.
Posted by: rickl
Newt this morning on fox said 150 years for sporting events ... not sure what song or other details he was referring to
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:24 PM (yKAUL)
It'll be happening again, but it's already happened at some college games. Just after the Kraperdick thing, eight people refused to stand at an Alabama game. Got video and a special mention on air by CBS Sports.
Funny, a dozen or more Alabama players kneel and pray at the goal line before every home game. I've never seen them on TV.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 02:25 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (63oy9)
Completely disagree. The majority of NFL NFL fans are white (76%) and republican high turnout voters.
This makes the Marxists have to justify something completely unjustifiable and that's showing disrespect to our country.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 02:25 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 24, 2017 02:25 PM (l9m7l)
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Ve vas only payink ze mortgage!
- New Nuremburgh Defense
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:25 PM (z2W2E)
I hate football even more now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 24, 2017 02:25 PM (xJa6I)
STEAL STEAL STEAL
If you must watch, STEAL.
Cut your cord. Buy a digital antenna. Mute all commercials. Better yet, add those companies to your "do not buy from" list.
Find an online sports book. They stream the live feeds for free. (And show the cheerleaders during the commercial breaks).
During the season do NOT go to a sports bar. If you must go, order only water or one cheap beer to nurse while you are there.
I am sure there are other ways.
Starve these bastards.
STEAL STEAL STEAL
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 02:25 PM (L+jGz)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: antisocialist at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (GG9ph)
Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (z74gh)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (ghofu)
Yinz all cray cray.
Posted by: Ben ghazi at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (RbFCa)
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They have the spotlights and such. Maybe we can get them to do torches and flags
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:27 PM (z2W2E)
The little guys, and advertisers. People who run concessions, people who are parking lot attendants, people who have shops near the stadium, people who sell team merchandising. The owners and players aren't feeling the pinch... yet.
Which is why folks need to blackout the NFL entirely, and skip the Superbowl.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:27 PM (39g3+)
NFL Player Arrest Database
http://tinyurl.com/y8rx8ucq
The only time these miserable lunkheads should be on their knees is to thank the God that made them for the chance this country gave them to be something besides a stupid useless fucking thug.
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 02:27 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:27 PM (63oy9)
That is, if you think America -is- their nation-, as they certainly do not.
Really, if Goodell had the brains God gave a turnip, he could use this as a powerful, if reprehensible, way to drum up interest and passionate rivalries between patriotic teams (Dallas, apparently Philadelphia) and urban (Pittsburgh, LA).
But he will always go the SJW route, which means the NFL can lose half its audience in five years. Oh, and lead to American whites becoming increasingly radicalized, so that's great too...
Posted by: trev006 at September 24, 2017 02:28 PM (4Vhe3)
Knelt for the US national anthem but stood for God Save the Queen. Let the stupid, bastards stay there
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (auHtY)
Exactly what I was going to post. Stay there, if you feel so terribly, terribly oppressed here. You've already made more money than I will in my entire lifetime.
Posted by: Gem at September 24, 2017 02:28 PM (uaHyk)
Posted by: Lefty Tropes of Tomorrow at September 24, 2017 02:28 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (WUuhi)
Those are the bellwether teams imho.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (HiDrR)
Like it or not he just changed the narrative against himself.
The Fake News changed the Fake Narrative, as I predicted. Trump is just the foil; the excuse.
Politically it was incredibly stupid and unnecessary.
Many conservatives such as myself are sick of this bullshit reason to keep our mouths shut and play along.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (+pGz/)
this whole thing is stupid and should be treated as stupid
Posted by: chelsea danger at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (kFRTd)
*sniffs superciliously*
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:17 PM
Ja? Vell schadenboner, beloved by Der Horde, ist not, either!
Posted by: Mutti Merklescheisskopf at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:27 PM (63oy9)
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Now you know who the cowards are. You oughta be thanking me!
Posted by: Donald J Effing Trump at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (70QTT)
Trump may be divisive about a lot of things, but people need to remember that he didn't have anything to do with starting this up as a divisive issue.
Note please the divisiveness of what the NFL players, supported by the NFL itself, are doing.
Divisive, divisive, divisive.
Make them play by their own set of rules.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (At/8G)
I think the Star-Spangled Banner was only officially adopted in the 1930s.
Posted by: rickl
Newt this morning on fox said 150 years for sporting events ... not sure what song or other details he was referring to
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:24 PM (yKAUL)
Yeah, no. I have a hard time believing that.
150 years ago, there were no professional baseball teams, and even the rules of the game were very different than we are used to today.
The game of football didn't even exist.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:27 PM (63oy9)
Your Saints team? Boo ficking hoo. Get over it. See them for what they really are. The league already accept this shit before Trump said word one.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: FH at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (D8fDd)
Yinz all cray cray.
Posted by: Ben ghazi at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (RbFCa)
I'm sure you can find lists of sponsors on teh Interwebz so you won't have to even record the game.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:26 PM (+pGz/)
I call 'em as I see 'em. This was an incredibly stupid and unnecessary move. Gravity was already taking down the NFL and PDT didn't need to throw a lifeline.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (63oy9)
Okay, this is the part of this farce when we're told that, because of President Trump, we're not talking about Tax Reform, etc.
This is BULLSHIT.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Sasquatch the Original trans-Wookie at September 24, 2017 02:31 PM (GpysH)
Like it or not he just changed the narrative against himself.
The Fake News changed the Fake Narrative, as I predicted. Trump is just the foil; the excuse.
Politically it was incredibly stupid and unnecessary.
Many conservatives such as myself are sick of this bullshit reason to keep our mouths shut and play along.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (+pGz/)
/raises hand...
If we and our leaders do not fight the culture war... out of FEAR...
Then we have already lost.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:31 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:31 PM (NWiLs)
Fake Republicans: We're not talking about Tax Reform and health care anymore because Trump!!
Yeah, right.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (z2W2E)
IF the NFL decides to slit its own throat, I just hope I am not hit for the burial costs.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Gv+zt)
Posted by: Donald J Effing Trump at September 24, 2017 02:29 PM (70QTT)
--This is the beauty of the First Amendment: As some wise man once noted, free speech helps you to spot the idiots more easily.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (GsAUU)
Okay, this is the part of this farce when we're told that, because of President Trump, we're not talking about Tax Reform, etc.
This is BULLSHIT.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (+pGz/)
Ayup. It's tiresome and silly.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (NWiLs)
Sorry but Trump is an imbecile for causing this. Now instead of
protesting the country they're protesting Trump, which will make it an
acceptable action by legitimately changing the narrative. Of all the
things he could've railed against this was the wrong thing.Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (63oy9)
"Look what you made me do." The logic of wifebeaters and other gutter scumbags.
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Blake MacBain at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Npqi5)
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Enq6K)
Now we know who they are.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 02:33 PM (w7KSn)
IF the NFL decides to slit its own throat, I just hope I am not hit for the burial costs.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Gv+zt)
I'll gladly volunteer to strop the razor.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:33 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (z2W2E)
The Karl Marx Center will be a justification in itself, Kulak.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2017 02:33 PM (Gv+zt)
Now instead of protesting the country they're protesting Trump, which
will make it an acceptable action by legitimately changing the
narrative. Of all the things he could've railed against this was the
wrong thing.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM
Yup. Gonna be an early night.
Posted by: Bull Wynn at September 24, 2017 02:33 PM (DMUuz)
Stay safe and know we Americans are with you.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 24, 2017 02:33 PM (arhmY)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 02:34 PM (/qEW2)
Really? Well crap. I was watching that game. Clicking over to How It's Made.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 02:34 PM (LTHVh)
1. Identify a respected institution.
2. Kill it.
3. Gut it.
4. Wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.
#lefties
It's happening in the NFL. I mean, shit, it's happening with Marvel comic books. Look at what the SJWs are doing to the Diversity and Comics YouTube guy. The new Star Trek Discovery show is--according to its director, producers, and writers--an allegory where Trump supporters are the evil, savage Klingons.
We fight it by boycotting them. We cut their market in half. We hit them where it hurts. And truthfully? These boycotts don't hurt us, the ones not buying their products and services. I can live a good life without watching a football game or a TV show or reading a comic book.
I need to spend more time on things that matter, anyway.
Posted by: troyriser at September 24, 2017 02:34 PM (oqXuO)
BMW
Honda
CBS
NFL
Buick
Chrysler
Jeep
VW
Verizon
Posted by: Richie Mcgrane at September 24, 2017 02:34 PM (u5a4o)
I'll post here the advertisers I see as they come along.
I plan on writing letters to be sent to my favorite NFL team, my home town NFL team (not the same), the NFL office, and the advertisers, criticizing their advocacy of divisiveness by NFL players:
Verizon
CBS
Toyota (might have been a local ad)
Spectrum (might have been a local ad)
Sonic (might have been a local ad)
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: auscolpyr at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (pzA2L)
Sorry but Trump is an imbecile for causing this. Now instead of
protesting the country they're protesting Trump, which will make it an
acceptable action by legitimately changing the narrative. Of all the
things he could've railed against this was the wrong thing.Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (63oy9)
"Look what you made me do." The logic of wifebeaters and other gutter scumbags.
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (gKOMX)
Yes... if She had been wearing a Burkha , I would not have raped her!
Posted by: Osama bin Allah at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (NgKpN)
Just because Fake News and nfl owners and players are all on the Wrong Side of an issue, it don't make it any less Wrong.
President Trump is on the Right Side of this issue. Politics be damned, especially Fake Narrative Politics!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Enq6K)
The OMGTRUMP'SFAULT!!!! ninnies have cause and effect all wrong. It's the same manner of thinking utilized by various talking heads who blameTrump for Antifada violence.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (NWiLs)
Trump may be divisive about a lot of things, but people need to remember that he didn't have anything to do with starting this up as a divisive issue.
Note please the divisiveness of what the NFL players, supported by the NFL itself, are doing.
Divisive, divisive, divisive.
Make them play by their own set of rules.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 02:30 PM (s5o+q)
Exactly, and Mnuchin said just that on the show he was on this AM. Martha Raddatz, who btw cried when Trump won, was ranting about this "divisive" BS.
The national anthem is unifying. Kaepernick and the others started dividing Americans long before Trump took office.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (sNESL)
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Enq6K)
The OMGTRUMP'SFAULT!!!! ninnies have cause and effect all wrong. It's the same manner of thinking utilized by various talking heads who blame Trump for Antifada violence.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (NWiLs)
Anyway sort of wishing DT didn't start this but it is inedible and better now than later. The push back to the Leftists needs to be done. Sides might aswell line up where they may.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Lefty Tropes of Tomorrow at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (398bZ)
He is singlehandedly killing football in this country.
He needs to resign immediately.
Does he understand that it is not Trump who is divisive?
We stand united under the National Ensign. It is the kneelers who are divisive.
It is the NFL players who have divided themselves against America.
Fuck you, Roger Goodell.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (arhmY)
narrative against himself. Politically it was incredibly stupid and
unnecessary. Half of my Saints team just took a knee for the first time.
Doesn't he have better things to rail against?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:27 PM (63oy9)
Your Saints team? Boo ficking hoo. Get over it. See them for what
they really are. The league already accept this shit before Trump said
word one.
.
.
.Yep, they were doing this long before Trump said a word about it. Trump just gave them an excuse to "please" the left by protesting.
This is just like any other job, protest on your own time not my time and this is killing these NFL teams and rightfully so. When you lose money trying to give away tickets those $20 Million a year contracts are going to dry up quickly.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (+Dllb)
http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/Taking-a-Knee/library/?sort=3&page=1
Posted by: chris at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (GQk1H)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: Blake MacBain at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Npqi5)
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Agreed. Not my NFL
Posted by: Zombie Pete Rozelle at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (pzA2L)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 02:37 PM (ghofu)
Sorry but Trump is an imbecile for causing this. Now instead of
protesting the country they're protesting Trump, which will make it an
acceptable action by legitimately changing the narrative. Of all the
things he could've railed against this was the wrong thing.Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (63oy9)
"Look what you made me do." The logic of wifebeaters and other gutter scumbags.
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (gKOMX)
Yes... if She had been wearing a Burkha , I would not have raped her!
Posted by: Osama bin Allah at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM (NgKpN)
Uncovered meat and uncovered meat-heads.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:37 PM (NWiLs)
Its the fact that people will get used to the idea that they not only don't need football, but that there are so many other options and things to do.
Why go back?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (FAO5C)
Each team is a private company franchise of the parent corp, and all are worth billions.
The players with any more than a year or two in the league are all millionaires.
The paying public and the watching public are much less rich.
They have many options competing for precious expendable income, and the league is going out of its way to insult the values of the large majority of their fan base.
As private corporations or companies, they have every right to allow or disallow speech of their employees while on the job, much like a band would have every right to dismiss a teller who wore a nazi armband on the job.
They throw flags for taunting, they disallow certain endzone celebrations, they have so many rules it's derisively called the No Fun League.
But suddenly, free speech in the form of an insult against the values of the fan base is sacrosanct?
Because the claim they are protesting the flag, which is a lie; the flag is just a piece of fabric. They are protesting those who hold the flag in esteem.
They are saying "We are not you, and you are not Us"
The league could stop this.
They won't.
I've been a die-hard football fan for decades and the only thing I can do to make an impact is give up my favorite game.
So be it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (z79tQ)
Can you imagine Johnny Unitas or Roger Staubach pulling this shit?
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (63oy9)
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That's right, shitbird. From now on, when you think of America, you picture one Donald J Effing Trump!
Posted by: Donald J Effing Trump at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (70QTT)
Sadly though, this is win-win for the social justice crowd. They either get to cow us into submission, or damage competitive sports. They are smiling here, for sure.
My take though is that the players and owners have sided with the wrong bunch of assholes. They should have sided with we assholes who actually liked their product.
Oh well, smell you later, NFL and NBA.
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (L+jGz)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:37 PM (NWiLs)
Meathead Reiner: Are you making fun of my bald head?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: geoffb at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (zOpu5)
Not anymore. The left just had to burn this down.
Posted by: Sasquatch the Original trans-Wookie at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (GpysH)
Springboks thank God after each match in their post-match interview.
(and they get paid 1/4 less than a typical NFL contract).
Posted by: auscolpyr at September 24, 2017 02:35 PM
Horde PSA: American football developed out of rugby, and was played by less than half of college teams in the mid-1920's. It is not an improvement over rugby.
The United States won the Gold Medal the first two of three times rugby has been an Olympic Sport, in 1920 and 1924.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (NWiLs)
He is singlehandedly killing football in this country.
He needs to resign immediately.
Does he understand that it is not Trump who is divisive?
We stand united under the National Ensign. It is the kneelers who are divisive.
It is the NFL players who have divided themselves against America.
Fuck you, Roger Goodell.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (arhmY)
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Hey wait, not until I kill NASCAR first.
Posted by: Brian France at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (pzA2L)
We're at the point in our nation's history when the Left will not be opposed on anything, and even have most Republicans defending the Left's most vile, idiotic stunts and actions.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (+pGz/)
Advertizing, too.
And note: even Pats' owner, who is a long-time friend of Trump (I believe) and a political supporter, issued a stupid statement. Not as offensive and ridiculous as the first 8 owners, but stunning coming from him.
It's really breath-taking to see f***king football teams, in places like Pittsburgh and Green Bay, going anywhere near this idiocy. Astonishing.
The kneel-down in the UK was perfect, in its contemptibility and clarity.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Roger Goodell at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (398bZ)
The ownership of the teams and the NFL as a league are the problem. As people have noted: they came to a fork in the road, and went down idiot avenue to stupid town.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 02:32 PM (Enq6K)
Last season, the players were doing "Hands Up, Don't Shoot!" Which was a complete lie from the Michael Brown incident.
Black Lives Matter was ginned up under false pretenses, and I wouldn't be surprised if Obama and Soros were involved somehow.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:36 PM (63oy9)
Only if folks like YOU surrender to their narrative...
and then tell OTHERS who are supposedly on your side, that the other side wins... so don't fight...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (Sfs6o)
A few years ago I saw a football life on Roger Staubach. What a truly outstanding man he is. These clowns aren't worthy to even clean his jockstrap. And I heard Franco Harris say a couple of weeks ago, if in his day they had kneelers guys like Jack Lambert and Mean Joe Greene would have taken care of them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:41 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 02:41 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:42 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Crimso
This should matter but... congress has no problem with what they are doing. Anything that hurts Trump is fine by them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:42 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (z2W2E)
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The Cajun have always doubted my marketing genius. Half their team hates America. Sad!
Posted by: Donald J Effing Trump at September 24, 2017 02:42 PM (70QTT)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 02:42 PM (7uYFy)
Not anymore. The left just had to burn this down.
Posted by: Sasquatch the Original trans-Wookie at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (GpysH)
Well said.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:42 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Berniebot at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (MWxvw)
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Lefty Tropes of Tomorrow at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (+pGz/)
Whuh?
Don't think so.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (QDnY+)
I had a Steelers flag hanging outside my house.
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Put it back up but upside down and 'Fuck the NFL' written on it.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (mJ8mX)
Posted by: auscolpyr at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (pzA2L)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 02:10 PM (mpXpK)
I started my pro sports boycott when the cvnts bumped Rush out of the NFL.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:42 PM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Jeb! at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (DMUuz)
Only if folks like YOU surrender to their narrative...
and then tell OTHERS who are supposedly on your side, that the other side wins... so don't fight...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (NgKpN)
The issue is the divisiveness of the NFL and its players.
Trump is Trump, for better or worse. He was the first choice of a minority of posters here, I daresay.
This issue pre-dates Trump. Having Trump speak out about an issue does not invalidate the issue.
The issue is the divisive behavior of professional athletes and their enablers.
Period.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (s5o+q)
The Corporatists and their Fake Republicans want us all to just go to sleep and ignore all this.
That's why they hate President Trump making people all Woke and shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (+pGz/)
Black Lives Matter was ginned up under false pretenses
Well... there are genuine beefs there. black people are mistreated by cops. Police will use force against a black guy when they wouldn't against a white one.
I understand a lot of that is due to experience and burnout and having to deal with so many Dindu Nuffins yelling We Wuz Kangs! But still: there is reason for complaint. Its just that this concern and frustration and anger has been coopted by people who frankly don't give a crap about them, and is using it for their agenda.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (MWxvw)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 02:45 PM (mcI77)
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heck no, they want to ban it
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:45 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (FQKBL)
That's why I tip even if I'm getting water or soda. Ain't their fault I ain't drinking alcohol that day.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 02:45 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: auscolpyr at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (pzA2L)
--and Tom Landry.
100% class, he was.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 02:45 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 24, 2017 02:46 PM (tvP0U)
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 02:46 PM (nWmg2)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:46 PM (39g3+)
I understand a lot of that is due to experience and burnout and having to deal with so many Dindu Nuffins yelling We Wuz Kangs! But still: there is reason for complaint. Its just that this concern and frustration and anger has been coopted by people who frankly don't give a crap about them, and is using it for their agenda.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:44 PM (39g3+)
While you are technically correct, might it have just a *little* something to do with the way that many AA's act when they are pulled over by the police?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 02:47 PM (7uYFy)
Look, I'm all for the rights of others, etc, but political protests have no place on a football field. None.
In our town, if they lose after this stunt today, the abuse in Pittsburgh will be titanic. And I mean titanic. It will last all season.
I hope in the locker room right now these clowns realize this.
In fact, the only thing that will rescue this group of players is winning the Super Bowl. This will hang over them all season in this town.
Look at the Ravens. BS with gang thug Ray Lewis on the field, and they lose 44-7. Why remind everyone of what you did, present at a gang murder? You got away with it because of who you are. You have a lot to atone for, Ray.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at September 24, 2017 02:47 PM (gR8uq)
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (L+jGz)
I'm being a broken record here, but the NBA requires the players to stand for the anthems. The only kneeling SO FAR has been in the NFL, and as of last night, MLB.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 02:47 PM (sNESL)
Well your wish has come true, DT didn't start this, Kaepernick did.
Posted by: BuckIV at September 24, 2017 02:47 PM (CLfqv)
According to Brian in NO, the best thing for us to do is just Shut Up And Take It.
Whatever the Left does, let's just keep mum about it.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:47 PM (+pGz/)
That's a man! He stood up against his whole team, and I'm sure there was peer pressure.
I wonder how the crowd reacted, if it did. Maybe it is in the 200 posts prior.
Bless you AV.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:48 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (mJ8mX)
Yup........screw 'em, War!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 02:48 PM (5VlCp)
Whatever the Left does, let's just keep mum about it.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:47 PM (+pGz/)
"Lay back and think of England."
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 02:48 PM (s5o+q)
Conflating strong disagreement and effective counterargument with hate is a standard leftist tactic.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 02:48 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Donald J Effing Trump at September 24, 2017 02:48 PM (70QTT)
Pro Sports and small confectionery bakers.
The bakers get punished financially, the sports players get paid million$$$$.
Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2017 02:48 PM (MWxvw)
I'm also concerned because I saw some dickhead on the Oakland A's did the kneeling bullshit yesterday. I really hope MLB has the brains to quash this NOW because I do not want to give up the MLB too.
Posted by: Eli Cash at September 24, 2017 02:49 PM (67sg6)
They're losing to the Bears. Now that's pathetic. But maybe the sad sack Bears will pull off a win and fck Mike Tomlin and his cry babies
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:49 PM (auHtY)
no, not the American flag, the team flag.
maybe while holding the American flag and singing the anthem.
after making a statement about the years of devotion to the good old days.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:50 PM (yKAUL)
Fine. Tip your server and minimize your order. It can be both/and. The tip doesn't go to the league, but the order goes to pay for the NFL Ticket up on the screen.
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 02:50 PM (L+jGz)
Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 02:51 PM (WUuhi)
I am also a Pittsburgher. The name "Pittsburgh Kneelers is goin'' around. Monday after a loss will be Lena Dunham ugly.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 02:51 PM (nWmg2)
I'm also concerned because I saw some dickhead on the Oakland A's did the kneeling bullshit yesterday. I really hope MLB has the brains to quash this NOW because I do not want to give up the MLB too.
Posted by: Eli Cash at September 24, 2017 02:49 PM (67sg6)
I can't see it really taking off in MLB because the vast majority of players are white and most of the "blacks" are from Latin America.
But who knows?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (7uYFy)
Its the fact that people will get used to the idea that they not only don't need football, but that there are so many other options and things to do.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:38 PM (39g3+)
I noted elsewhere that I'll be getting in a lot more deer hunting this year.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (yzxic)
Of course, local news gives this one miscreant a big time slot on the news, and he couldn't even form complete sentences.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: auscolpyr at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (pzA2L)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (398bZ)
And for those who are lamely attempting to rationalize these idiotic "protests", just hum the melody of the Horst Wessel Lied and be done with it. The analogy is actually pretty good - a campaign of hate and agitation based on racial animus, using lies and myths as the foundation.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (QDnY+)
they are allowing the trashing of their pro-America fans
by leftist activists.
clearly it is a coordinated commie effort, in perfect harmony with other anti-American activities.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:53 PM (yKAUL)
Thank you, Chris.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 02:53 PM (m9X4Y)
That definitely plays into it. But its not the entire picture. Black people are still harassed by the police unjustly. There is a different standard for how to treat blacks and, say, Asians. Its partly due to back behavior, but that's not all of it.
I get it, cops are only human, cops start to get a grudge against people they are treated like trash by over and over, and favor people they are trated decently and respected by. That's not an unexpected behavior development. But it doesn't make it okay to roust some kid just because his skin is dark, or to treat them worse regardless of circumstances simply due to his ethnic background.
BLM has valid concerns, its just that they're never going to be addressed because if that happens, it ceases to have a reason to exist. No money, no power, no value as a way to shove the culture and policy to the left.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Mailman at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (CDncP)
Since tipping has been mentioned: Please consider tipping in cash only.
I always get a little sense of satisfaction from doing that. Fuck the
IRS.
.
.
.I do that whenever I have actual cash in my wallet.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (+Dllb)
Dude, I'm dine with a cheap order as long as the wait staff gets properly compensated. Normally the tip is based on the amount of the check, but if you still give a decent tip, that's fine.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (FQKBL)
I'm disgusted by it...esp. after the England stunt.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (tvP0U)
btw, have you ever seen a more CHILDISH display than all those adults in their silly
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (+pGz/)
Of course, local news gives this one miscreant a big time slot on the news, and he couldn't even form complete sentences.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (w7KSn)
Rookie catcher on a last place team. He can be the MLB's Crapperdick. Out of a job
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (qV5PD)
Maybe I just shouldn't have given up my Sundays in the first place. I have a lot of books to read.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (70QTT)
Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (MWxvw)
They are currently being anally raped Da Bears.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM (O033+)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM (tvP0U)
Posted by: phone of kari - certified sidebar at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM (JnQ2F)
That's a man! He stood up against his whole team, and I'm sure there was peer pressure.
I wonder how the crowd reacted, if it did. Maybe it is in the 200 posts prior.
Bless you AV."
Pittsburgh native and general fan of all things black and gold here. I just want to put this out there: from everything I've read, Villanueva is a very respected member of the team. I would imagine he has numerous teammates who are on his side. Just a guess, based on what I've heard about AV in the past.
Posted by: BethinPA at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM (60OJF)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 02:56 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (tvP0U)
We wouldn't be talking about any of this if the NFL didn't draft ghetto gangsta thugs who grew up without having a father figure around to whoop their ass.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 02:56 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
You joking me? The NFL is the enemy. Like other cultural institutions of late, they are trying to force their BS down people's throats because they imagine they are indispensable.
Trump *tricked* them into doubling down, as is his wont, just as he forced the GOPe to reveal to America that even if they have the numbers, they will side with Democrats.
Who knows how it will end? But I think he just tricked the NFL into charging at him like an enraged animal, not noticing the pit covered over with leaves and branches that stood between them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 02:56 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: IC at September 24, 2017 02:56 PM (gcme+)
I hope so too. I hope they stomp on this like a cockroach and grind it into the ground. I hope the other players make this guy miserable, I hope he never plays another game in his life.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:56 PM (39g3+)
I wish I had a giant WATER CANNON so I could spray all these Shits every time they pulled these stupid childish stunts.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 02:56 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: TheQuietMan
________
The Penguins have accepted Trump's invitation. You still have the Pens.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 02:57 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: IC at September 24, 2017 02:57 PM (gcme+)
Oooh...I hadn't thought of that.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 02:57 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 02:58 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: BethinPA at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM (60OJF)
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That may be true, but they were too chickenshit to stand with him, weren't they?
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (nWmg2)
there is no loyalty ... to team or nation, just the globalist dollar, and maybe identity politics
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (yKAUL)
They won't know why ratings are down unless it's made clear, because you know groups (and the league is a group of teams) will look for other reasons and ways to attract viewers.
That might mean doubling down on stupid.
I don't want the NFL to tank. I want them to pull their heads out of their asses and put a product their fans want to see out there.
If you can't get away from Leftist virtue-signalling for three hours on a Sunday afternoon, then they'll suffer the results.
Give them a chance to make it right by letting them know.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (z79tQ)
Black Lives Matter was ginned up under false pretenses, and I wouldn't be surprised if Obama and Soros were involved somehow.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (sdi6R)
Ever since the weird ginned up outrage over St Trayvon in an election year, I've believed all this crap is about getting black people to the polls, and nothing more. I'm convinced the usual suspects finance too. The Dems no longer do well if part of their cobbled-together coalition fails to have maximum turnout at the polls.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (sNESL)
Its the fact that people will get used to the idea that they not only don't need football, but that there are so many other options and things to do.
This reminds me...one of the times I dipped into the site was when Ace went off on football. About not watching it. People reacted quite badly. He had to do a follow up about not meaning to football shame people & stuff.
I was like...whoa. This is SJW snowflake crap and wording. Just b/c he feels this way people are upset? He can't have a strong opinion on his own site, and then has to apologize?
It was weird.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 02:58 PM (7uYFy)
The majority of them are dumb ghetto thugs so this does not surprise me.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: scrood at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (cQdY5)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 02:52 PM (398bZ)
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I used to ALWAYS tip in cash. But now I can't afford to. Too many gay servers have put a "I didn't tip you because you're a fag" note on a credit card receipt with a cash tip, raising money from the internet and ruining someone's reputation in the process.
Sorry, servers, but take that up with your mentally-ill peers.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (70QTT)
Me too.
I'd bet that on the first full sample day after the weekend (Wed., I think), RAS will show PDT's JA down 4-5 points from before this weekend.
I really do hope I'm wrong (I say that a lot).
See, the NFL is never going to be on the ballot in November.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (v6Osy)
Let me be clear: President Trump did Nothing Wrong here. Shame on anyone who says he did. Shame on you and go fug yourself. Go join the Left.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 02:40 PM (z2W2E)
This was an unforced error, that's all. A big one though. An argument could be made that he just singlehandedly saved the NFL fro it's own destruction. And it'll be with us for as long as he's President. They'll stop kneeling when the next President is sworn in and it'll be all forgotten.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (63oy9)
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exactly right. Living the dream of every high school boy and they act like this?
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:01 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 03:01 PM (J2oJa)
Sir: (comment: no "dear" about it)
I write to express my deep disappointment with you and your organization for continuing to tolerate if not encourage the divisive and disrespectful behavior of NFL players in regards to the National Anthem.
There can be no excuse for anyone taking divisive and disrespectful actions in their workplace, and the NFL players who do so are setting an appallingly negative example for both children and adults.
I am immediately disassociating myself with all NFL products and will be contacting television sponsors of NFL games to register my deep and profound disappointment for your failure to appropriately curb divisive behavior by NFL players and alarm that their continued support of the NFL constitutes support for that divisive behavior.
With greatest regret,
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:01 PM (s5o+q)
I don't think so. I can see why you believe so, but we'll find out as time goes on. If he did, well he's big enough to take the punches, but I really do not believe that's what people are thinking when the president loudly and strongly condemns not treating the nation and flag with respect.
That's kind of his job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 03:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 02:58 PM (7uYFy)
Let me add to my own post by saying, they can't see beyond that because they had no problem pledging allegiance to Obama when he was president. They think this is how it works.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 03:02 PM (7uYFy)
Sick of being told that being on the Right Side of an issue is bad politics.
That's bullshit leftist propaganda that only helps advance the leftist agenda.
That's how you got Trump!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:02 PM (+pGz/)
Pittsboig shoulda spent some time thinking about football this week, rather than virtue-signalling.
They are currently being anally raped by Da Bears.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM (O033+)
The damn offensive line is letting the bears get through and have their way with me.
Posted by: Leonardo Di Caprio # 13 at September 24, 2017 03:02 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Buzzion at September 24, 2017 03:02 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (63oy9)
As long as that president is a Democrat, preferably black.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (+pGz/)
BLM has valid concerns, its just that they're never going to be addressed because if that happens, it ceases to have a reason to exist. No money, no power, no value as a way to shove the culture and policy to the left.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)
BLM has NO valid concerns. They were founded on a lie: "Hands up, Don't shoot!" Michael Brown assaulted a cop and tried to take his gun.
BLM is nothing short of a domestic terrorist organization.
And if young black men behaved like normal civilized human beings, they wouldn't attract the attention of the police so much.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 02:43 PM (H5knJ)
Oh please. The "protests" this week are overwhelming compared to weeks past. They are clearly protesting Trump now. The narrative has now changed. His fault for that.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (63oy9)
It was weird.
I remember that, and I remember thinking the same thing. I also remember he made good points and agreed with his concerns about football.
But fans are difficult to pry away from their favorite sport. Its very strongly ingrained, and people get into fistfights over teams.
its good to see even very strong fans peeling away like this, not because I hate football, but because I think its healthier.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 03:04 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:04 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (63oy9)
Nope... it ends when the Owners see the decline in revenue from folks like me boycotting...
Trump did not start this... and all of your histrionics and defeatist attitude won't change that.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 03:04 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Raider Nation at September 24, 2017 03:04 PM (sB1y1)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 03:04 PM (mcI77)
Surprised it hasn't happened already. McCain is gonna have to chime in too.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 03:04 PM (7uYFy)
Kapernick was kneeling when obama was occupying the White House, Mr Republican Political Strategist.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:05 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (H5knJ)
Power tends to go to people's heads anyway - parents, teachers, politicians, nobody is immune. When you give power to people along with guns, citation and arrest authority, qualified immunity, and the mindset that a) they're the good guys no matter what and b) they're in a war against the populace where it's "us" or "them," you get some real problems.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:05 PM (NWiLs)
The players may think they are, but fans are just seeing lots more football millionaires protest their nation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 03:05 PM (39g3+)
And kapernick wasn't the only nfl player kneeling during obama, either.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:05 PM (+pGz/)
Emptying bullshit posturing to "raise awareness": GOOD
Actually doing something for the country like Hector Villanueva: BAD
And good on him for not appeasing these rat fucking assholes.
Speaking of not appeasing, I'm going to find other things to do with my Sundays and Mondays just like many of you.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 03:06 PM (F0ZHr)
But yeah, the best thing for us to do now is impeach this Trump guy and install a "respectable" Republican who knows how to get along with everyone...
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:06 PM (+pGz/)
Battered Conservative Syndrome.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 03:06 PM (XFue2)
The "protests" this week are overwhelming compared to weeks past.
Good!
They look like fools.
More, please!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (63oy9)
--That is the least knowledgeable analysis I've read here in a long while, even compared to mine.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Donald J Effing Trump at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (70QTT)
Fame and celebrity and social approval will be seen as far more important than patriotism.
All of what is going on is a big deal.
Posted by: kraken at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (zSVEm)
Donald Trump has been Turning Over Rocks for the last 2 years!
All the Worms are crawling out.
This is a good thing.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (nWmg2)
Not defending anyone here. I'm simply coming from the viewpoint that I suspect this was a "management" decision that came from above the team as an attempt to avoid the distraction of having "standers vs kneelers" on the field. However ... and this was my initial point ... the media only see what they want to see. Meaning, if the whole team avoids the field, then the whole team is protesting the anthem. And protesting the anthem is what the media want to see, so that's the narrative that they will report. So, by trying not to be a distraction, it becomes a bigger distraction, if that makes sense.
Posted by: BethinPA at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (60OJF)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 03:08 PM (wPiJc)
player dogged it running toward the endzone and was stripped of the
ball....man, if Halas were alive. <<<
The Chicago Bears explicitly display why they are losers. LOSERS!
Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2017 03:08 PM (SkJX+)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 03:08 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 24, 2017 03:08 PM (ZZhQQ)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 03:08 PM (J2oJa)
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Would he have done that last week? Nope. Kneeling has now been legitimized by none other than the President himself.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:08 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (GsAUU)
I think he wants to 1) be "more sensitive" than the rest of us, and 2) doesn't want to abandon his idol worship (i.e. Saints.)
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:09 PM (s5o+q)
--That is the least knowledgeable analysis I've read here in a long while, even compared to mine.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:07 PM (GsAUU)
Worse than mine too?
Because I've been know to pull opinion and facts out of my nethers when I'm too lazy to be informed.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 24, 2017 03:09 PM (z79tQ)
Yep, now we can't blame anyone else for not passing skinny obamacare and fake tax reform than none other than President Trump!
It's all Trump's fault.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (+pGz/)
I don't gamble and my fantasies don't involve football players....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (z2W2E)
Many conservatives such as myself are sick of this bullshit reason to keep our mouths shut and play along.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter
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I think one of the reasons liberals call him 'divisive' is because they don't care about actual divisions as long as those on the other side are silent. They think if they can't hear dissenters, there is unity, no dissent. But this just ossifies people who are already liberal and creates new liberals, because they are not aware that there is an alternative take on the issue.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (/qEW2)
Yea, it was as if people personalized the comment. Like the SJWs do. You offend me so you must apologize to me...even though it is not personally directed at me and is just a viewpoint I'm free to accept or reject. The rebuttals were not really arguments as much as butthurt & you are shaming me.
I was so confused b/c I didn't think it was a progessive site, and then decided I was wrong and vamoosed.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (+pGz/)
I'm still Blaming Bush, actually.
/stuck in the '00's
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (s5o+q)
Thanks Sooth, as a lifelong concerned Moderate Republican, I agree we desperately need a respectable conservative president like Jeb Bush to calm the flames of dissension that are ravaging the country!
It's really the only prudent way forward!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (gwPgz)
I refer you to the University of Missouri for what's about to happen to the NFL. These "protests" are overwhelmingly unpopular with people. If you don't know that and you don't know that all of this is from page one of Trump's playbook, which the usual suspects keep falling for, then you really haven't been paying attention.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (F0ZHr)
Mitch McConnell and all the other Republicans have erectile dysfunction because of Trump's twittering!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:11 PM (+pGz/)
But the league as a whole has been trying to court the nanny staters and lefties and can DIAF.
Posted by: PaleRider at September 24, 2017 03:11 PM (8qFZP)
This is just a silly thing to say. Nothing whatsoever has been legitimized in any remotest sense to anyone. The more players throw these kind of fits, the more people find other stuff to do when games are on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 03:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: kraken at September 24, 2017 03:11 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Sharkman at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Leonardo DiCaprio at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (DMUuz)
I bet the closet Christians in the NFL are pissed off today.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (XFue2)
And, frankly, I couldn't care less about what Colin Kaepernick does at any point in time. But Kaepernick, I can ignore quite easily.
It's more difficult to ignore/avoid media who are trying to deify and lionize people like Kaepernick for their so-called bravery and heroics.
Posted by: BethinPA at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (60OJF)
How about instead Tomlin tells his players "You kneel or anyway dishonor the National Anthem, I will kick your a**!"
Posted by: Zogger at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (SKahJ)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at September 24, 2017 02:59 PM (z79tQ)
They know. Businesses like the NFL pay experts millions to gauge public perceptions on every aspect of their operation. They have an army of marketing analysts at their disposal. There's no way they can look at the numbers and not figure out why nearly half their audience is dropping them.
Posted by: troyriser at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (oqXuO)
Yes, he galvanized the league. But he also galvanized the fans. I have never seen so much unified outrage, all directed at the league. It won't affect the NFL this year, as the TV contracts are already set, but I expect next year to be a bitch for the league.
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (L+jGz)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (z2W2E)
Last week we were told Trump made things worse with Korea by saying stuff about Korea, which were all true.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (+pGz/)
Fuck them all to hell.
Posted by: SMFH at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (sB1y1)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:08 PM (63oy9)
Okay, I'll bite. How did he legitimize kneeling? What's your chain of logic? Show your work.
Posted by: Leonardo Di Caprio # 13 at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (F0ZHr)
I read something recently that for the first time ever, Missouri State in Springfield, MO is the more favored in-state school for high school seniors over Mizzou in Columbia.
But yeah, this is Trump's fault.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (s5o+q)
*spit*
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 03:13 PM (XFue2)
The NFL fines players for Excessive Celebration in the end zone, but allows individual political commentary by players during the game.
Meanwhile SJWers want to punish me if say something they don't like, and that's getting mainstreamed.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:13 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2017 03:13 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Leonardo Di Caprio # 13 at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (gKOMX)
Stupid name field.
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 03:13 PM (gKOMX)
Yep, tomorrow's Fake News Narrative is that Trump's entire agenda is now dead because of this.
And most Republican Shits will agree, even though they are really to blame, and this is just the Fake Excuse they needed.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:14 PM (+pGz/)
This phenomenal pile of horseshit is so diametrically opposed to reality as to be nearly breathtaking. Calling out is now supporting, condemning is now legitimizing. Up is down, black is white. Go back to eating people in the Superdome.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:14 PM (NWiLs)
I turned the channel and am now watching Major League Soccer.
As far as I know they don't kneel for the National Anthem.
Yet.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:14 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: TN VOLUNTEER at September 24, 2017 03:14 PM (y385q)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 03:14 PM (39g3+)
Brian's never been all that bright a thinker.
He does, however, have an uncanny knack of spotting Trump's unforced errors.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:15 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM
Need some suggestions?
Posted by: Shep! at September 24, 2017 03:15 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: fluffy at September 24, 2017 03:15 PM (U0v/A)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (+pGz/)
I'm still Blaming Bush, actually.
/stuck in the '00's
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:10 PM (s5o+q)
I blame Reagan. Get off my lawn.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:15 PM (NWiLs)
This is false, and not supported by the facts which show black men killing whites and themselves at a much higher rate.
Their protest is bullshit and not based in reality.
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 24, 2017 03:15 PM (ZZhQQ)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 02:21 PM (63oy9)
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This is beyond Trump at this point, because he simply voiced what many of us felt. All he had to do was the read the comment section the last year or so.
The leftists started this Social Justice War and at last our side is fighting back.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 24, 2017 03:15 PM (MuTTO)
Let me be clear: President Trump did Nothing Wrong here. Shame on anyone who says he did. Shame on you and go fug yourself. Go join the Left.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:00 PM (+pGz/)
Have you ever heard the axiom about not interfering when your opponent is in the process of destroying themself? Yeah, he should have done that.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (63oy9)
Fuck them all to hell.
Posted by: SMFH at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (sB1y1)
Holy shit.
Memo to the NFL: When you've lost SMFH, it's time to stop digging.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (+pGz/)
Fuck them all to hell.
Posted by: SMFH at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM (sB1y1)
They're based in Oakland, so, short trip.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:15 PM (NWiLs)
My dad (God rest his soul) was a life-long Republican, but Reagan lost him when Reagan started saluting the Marines as he emerged from Air Force One . . . because Reagan had never actually served in the military.
Lord only knows what my Dad would have thought of the NFL today.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:17 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Sharkman at September 24, 2017 02:55 PM
Shemp Smith: Really? I never knew football could fun like that. I'll have to tune it!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 03:17 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 03:17 PM (398bZ)
The left says it is divisive for Trump to point that out their Machiavellian ploy, and we the majority should surrender to any "minority rebel with a cause" they concoct ... or they will (God forbid, must surrender) call us names ... (deplorable, irredeemable)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 03:17 PM (yKAUL)
Posted by: Heidi at September 24, 2017 03:17 PM (dCikz)
btw, the only reason a D could possibly win against Judge Roy Bean in Alabama is because the gope shits will help the Democrat, just like they did in Indiana when Luger lost his primary.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:18 PM (+pGz/)
Lord only knows what my Dad would have thought of the NFL today.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:17 PM (s5o+q)
Didn't Reagan have a hearing problem? And didn't he serve by making training films?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 03:18 PM (7uYFy)
Fuck them all to hell.
Posted by: SMFH
This!! I have given almost all of my Raider gear to little bro. Just a few more things to pack up. I have no way of knowing, but Ray Davis put up with a lot of shit. Not sure he would put up with this.
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 03:18 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 24, 2017 03:18 PM (J2oJa)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:18 PM (+pGz/)
when your opponent is in the process of destroying themself? Yeah, he
should have done that.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (63oy9)
That's reasonable, I wouldn't argue against it. But don't you think they're destroying themselves at Fast Forward speed, now?
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 03:18 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla
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I vaguely remember that, though I forget the details.
With me, I like football for a couple of reasons. In no particular order -- I like the logos and the colors. I enjoy the discussions with fellow fans, especially if they're civil people who support the rivals of my favorite teams. I also glean the "microcosm of society" aspect, which is what I suspect is on full display this weekend.
The main thing I like about football (and hockey) is the stories of character and perseverance that can serve as models for me and for people I know. The '97 Broncos provided a lot of material along these lines. There's a nice tidbit from the '98 Broncos, too.
This all comes from following the game and a particular team. But with the countless trades, fantasy-league statistics and (now) anthem protests, it's all going away. Its appeal to me is fading and is all but gone.
Football, for me, has oscillated between worthwhile diversion to guilty-pleasure waste of time -- but I used to enjoy it. Other people have other reasons, which they certainly don't need to defend. Ace never struck me as a sports fan, so maybe he genuinely didn't understand the appeal. I do, and I also get that it's different for everybody. It's just that the appeal isn't there any more.
As a footnote, I don't care what the NFL does, but I'll be watching. I find the current slow-motion train wreck to be entertaining and edifying on completely different levels than those on which I found appreciation just a couple of years ago.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 03:19 PM (zkGZ8)
Pretty sure, before today, I never heard anything intelligent from someone in New Orleans. The record remains unblemished.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 03:19 PM (EgwCt)
Didn't Reagan have a hearing problem? And didn't he serve by making training films?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 03:18 PM (7uYFy)
Possibly . . . I only know that it pissed my Dad off bigly. I mean "never seen him that mad about politics" bigly.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:19 PM (s5o+q)
Have you ever heard the axiom about not interfering when your opponent is in the process of destroying themself?
That's a load of bullshit.
We didn't oppose the radical Left for decades, and they only got more Power. Today we're on the brink of a civil war because of this.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:20 PM (+pGz/)
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 24, 2017 03:20 PM (wwL6Q)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 24, 2017 03:20 PM (qul7b)
***
Slavery was introduced into North America while the 13 Colonies were...part of Britain.
So...slavery is good now?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2017 03:21 PM (aZq03)
Posted by: chewydog at September 24, 2017 03:21 PM (EpTBf)
Memo to the NFL: When you've lost SMFH, it's time to stop digging.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (sdi6R)
--Damn.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:21 PM (GsAUU)
IMO, there would be less of this disrespect if the media wasn't showing it & whipping it into a "thing". But they are doing that with everything nowadays.
Awhile back I read a sports reporter complain about the politicizing of a game b/c...they had the America Flag of the field. Wtf? It was insane. He did get pushback, but he also had fans. So, having the flag - politicizing sports. Kneeling & disrespecting the country - not politicizing sports.
Upside down world.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 03:22 PM (exkr6)
Like when Ralph Cifaretto disrespected the Bing in The Sopranos.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:22 PM (cAXIk)
A. Yes, he did.
B. Commander in Chief is the military anyway. Yes, even for TFG.
Next.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 03:22 PM (F0ZHr)
We stopped advancing Conservatism and we stopped defending our Freedom for decades and ended up with a useless and corrupt Republican party and a radical racist islamist with a sketchy background as president of the United States for 8 years.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 03:22 PM (+pGz/)
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Slavery was introduced into North America while the 13 Colonies were...part of Britain.
So...slavery is good now?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2017 03:21 PM (aZq03)
They were standing for Rum, Sodomy and the Lash . . . as long as they're the ones holding the lash, anyway.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:23 PM (s5o+q)
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Slavery was introduced into North America while the 13 Colonies were...part of Britain.
So...slavery is good now?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2017 03:21 PM (aZq03)
Slavery? You wanna talk slavery? A multi-million dollar contract with an NFL team, now that's REAL slavery!
Posted by: Colin Kaepernick at September 24, 2017 03:23 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 24, 2017 03:23 PM (s28y4)
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Before Kraperdick started his antics I found myself watching less and less football as the quality of the game kept dropping.
Their really isn't much reason to watch it nowadays even if they weren't going hard core lefty. I mean, I didn't like the current type of "football" when they called it arena-bowl...why would I like it now?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2017 03:23 PM (aZq03)
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you are forgetting we are at war; you know, the only thing necessary for he triumph of evil is that good men do nothin situation. we are not in the position not to respond. the escalation is clearly happening and the NFL mischief is just one front. the league's actions cannot be judged in a vacuum, like you are doing.
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 03:24 PM (QC/4S)
Like when Ralph Cifaretto disrespected the Bing in The Sopranos.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:22 PM (cAXIk)
That's why I think we have to HAMMER him in particular with letters and e-mails calling him out on his own divisiveness and disrespect.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:24 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 03:24 PM (wPiJc)
Maybe we can sticky an NFL advertiser list on the side? I cut the cable long ago...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 24, 2017 03:20 PM (qul7b)
The one advertiser I noticed today ESPECIALLY - was Samsung -- out of South Korea. Those bastids are hiding behind our nuclear force and troops, who salute the American flag every day and they support this bullshit?
Samsung is on my shit list. Near the top of my very short shit list.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 03:24 PM (EgwCt)
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM
It took a Trump to trump me.
Posted by: George W. Bushitler! at September 24, 2017 03:25 PM (DMUuz)
They believe they can force us to watch and support hardcore leftwing ideology as long as they flood ALL info-tainment options.
Presuming the NFL gets away with this they will be much closer tot heir goals....
Posted by: 18-1 at September 24, 2017 03:25 PM (aZq03)
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 03:26 PM (XhN8Z)
Yes. This, a million times!
This is what they love. This is what they thrive on. Taking away their audience (subscribers, viewers) is the only way to retaliate. Sadly, I have beloved family members who 100 percent disagree with the media's agenda, but still won't turn off the TV or stop reading. They have to keep watching because they're so afraid they will miss something important.
Posted by: BethinPA at September 24, 2017 03:26 PM (60OJF)
Icky, violent, heteronormative cis toxic masculinity, with competition too!
Icky sticky bad.
Posted by: barbarausa at September 24, 2017 03:26 PM (Elk67)
Things like this solidfy Trump's base, which will ensure turnout.
Some will think Trump is picking a fight, but Goodell and the players will now make it an even bigger shit show and prove that Trump was right, which will help with the squishy middle.
The rest of the populace (and MSM) will be forced to defend the indefensible.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:26 PM (cAXIk)
A. Yes, he did.
B. Commander in Chief is the military anyway. Yes, even for TFG.
Next.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 24, 2017 03:22 PM (F0ZHr)
You callin' my daddie less than omniscient?
(wry grin)
All I know is that it befuddled the bejeezus out of me at the time.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:27 PM (s5o+q)
My dad (God rest his soul) was a life-long Republican, but Reagan lost him when Reagan started saluting the Marines as he emerged from Air Force One . . . because Reagan had never actually served in the military.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:17 PM (s5o+q)
I don't understand that objection.
The Marine guards have to salute their Commander-in-Chief, don't they? If the Commander-in-Chief returns their salute, isn't that a good thing, as opposed to him walking past and ignoring them?
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 03:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at September 24, 2017 03:27 PM (xiOrX)
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 03:27 PM (bfUpy)
I don't watch football, so all I read about is a bunch of overpaid yahoos who don't want to come out for the them because they don't like America.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2017 03:28 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (63oy9)
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Sometimes that is true, however you can also force your opponents to make even bigger mistakes by attacking them. The scenes of players kneeling for the U.S. National Anthem, while standing for the British Anthem are worse than anything Trump said. The image of one ex-vet Pittsburgh player standing by himself for the honor of the nation, while the rest hid in the locker room is worse than anything Trump said.
Pictures are powerful...trust me Trump got what he wanted.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 24, 2017 03:28 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 03:28 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (qV5PD)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (KP5rU)
when your opponent is in the process of destroying themself? Yeah, he
should have done that.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (63oy9)
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The George W Bush approach! Proven Ineffective! Sad man!
Posted by: Donald J Effing Trump at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (70QTT)
This reminds me...one of the times I dipped into the site was when Ace went off on football. About not watching it.
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Before Kraperdick started his antics I found myself watching less and less football as the quality of the game kept dropping.
Their really isn't much reason to watch it nowadays even if they weren't going hard core lefty. I mean, I didn't like the current type of "football" when they called it arena-bowl...why would I like it now?
Posted by:18-1
Honestly... same here. It is just not as good a product as it used to be. Watching a game on television was this looong, interminable affair, endless crappy commercials, smarmy announcers, stupid, inane halftime shows.
Just a load of garbage concocted by the venal Mass Media.
Goodbye to all that.
Serious question... for you who have cut the cable... did you find it liberating??
Posted by: kraken at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (zSVEm)
By taking a soft approach with Kaepernick, Goodell has let the contagion spread. Now players feel they have to protest, and Goodell (and the owners) now can't contain it.
Ratings and attendance will decline. The new LA franchises are especially at risk. Try getting another municipality to go broke to pay for a new stadium.
And then watch when TV network contracts come up for renewal.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: Keith at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (USf3s)
I don't understand that objection.
The Marine guards have to salute their Commander-in-Chief, don't they? If the Commander-in-Chief returns their salute, isn't that a good thing, as opposed to him walking past and ignoring them?
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 03:27 PM (sdi6R)
I didn't understand it either, and it's possible I am misremembering the reason for my dad's disgust with Reagan . . . it's been what, 35+ years ago now?
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: SMFH at September 24, 2017 03:12 PM
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They're based in Oakland, so, short trip.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM
Not for long. They're about to be saved.
Posted by: Las Vegas, with many churches per capita at September 24, 2017 03:30 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 24, 2017 03:30 PM (xInes)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:30 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2017 03:30 PM (O2RFr)
Wow....that has to be one of the most stupidest things I have ever read here.
And that's saying a lot.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (6FqZa)
Goodell just took his dick out, put in on the table, and is about to slam the poor little thing with a hammer.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (qV5PD)
It's just a version of "the terrorists wouldn't be attacking us if we'd just leave them alone." Which is just a variation of a constant refrain that the left has used for over a century.
Trump sure get more action out of Twitter that old #hashtag Michelle ever did.
Posted by: geoffb at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: Las Vegas, with many churches per capita at September 24, 2017 03:30 PM (DMUuz)
Hmm...churches or wedding chapels? 'Cause those aren't necessarily the same thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:32 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 03:32 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: PaleRider at September 24, 2017 03:32 PM (8qFZP)
Fixed for scale.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 03:32 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (6FqZa)
No, they're just demanding that you suppress your values in favor of theirs.
Of course, among those values is a deep and enduring belief in serfdom . . . as long as they're not the serfs.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:33 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: CSMBigBird
/bonk
Freedom of speech is an INHERENT right. Whether a government respects this or not is irrelevant to the right's nature and existence.
Never accept, even slightly, the idea that governments grant or create rights.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Can't Touch This! at September 24, 2017 03:33 PM (66CWr)
Since the players' union approves, that means this is a strike.
So at least the lawyers should agree that this is labor-law.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (mJ8mX)
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (qV5PD)
The Marine guards have to salute their Commander-in-Chief, don't they?
Is that before or after they hold the umbrella?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (IqV8l)
Yes, there have been times in the past, I vaguely remember, when players have knelt, or turned their back, or other stuff. But it was genuine. And limited.
Now, we have manufactured stuff. And it is also a critical mass issue. We have this 24/7 with the Medusa Borg complex. There is no escape. The sports arena is now one more area where we have these antics & I question the authenticity of any of it. Who is whispering in their ears behind the scene.
So I think, at least for me, that's where my irritation is coming from, b/c I went off watching sports a long time ago. But now I'm pissed off.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (qV5PD)
Where can one find this manifesto online to read?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:26 PM (cAXIk)
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Correct...They have basically unmasked themselves.
Posted by: William Eaton at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Puppy Bowl at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (cQdY5)
But it just hit me - this shit is boring as hell, I couldn't care less what happens to either of them, and it's sunny outside today. I ain't turning it back on - to put it analytically, I got no more emotional investment in any of it, and without that, who cares?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (k1TUh)
Yes.
Every time I get a junk mail solicitation trying to get me back.
Every time I see the shoulders fall on the guy who tries to sell me DirecTV at Wal-Mart when I tell him I cut the cord. He doesn't even try to talk me out of it. He knows he has a losing hand.
Every time a new sub-channel pops up on my digital antenna.
And every month when none of my money goes to fund assholes I want to see starve.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2017 03:30 PM (O2RFr)
--Sounded like the Patriots fans booed a lot after the Anthem.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (/qEW2)
From my recollections Reagan was not in the military yet he produced videos for the WWII war effort. He worked for GE for decades traveling to the assorted branches and giving very patriotic and inspirational speeches to the employees.
My neighbor sat through one and recalling the event as he implored me to vote for RR, I could see he was impressed.
That such a man would salute the military is not the least surprising.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (EgwCt)
Posted by: Puppy Bowl at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (cQdY5)
--Loved the Puppy Bowl last year. Lots of doggies and kitties rescued.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (GsAUU)
Long ago Goddell proved that he is a left wing asswipe willing to kiss the asses of the SJWs and lefty causes. Time for that shithead to go down in flames.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: mindful webworker's high school letter sweater at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (NstOx)
Goodell just took his dick out, put in on the table, and is about to slam the poor little thing with a hammer.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:31 PM (cAXIk)
Apparently there was a memo sent to Goodell by 4 players asking for his blessing (memo linked below).
http://tinyurl.com/ybco4ffu
Posted by: Vendette at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (nXoiZ)
heh ... do all the illegal bookies stand for the anthem? If we surrender to globalists, I wonder how it works out for organized crime. I guess their tax rate stays the same, but they'll have foreign competition. Or are the Russians and Mexican cartels already running things?
sheesh ... we are all going to have to join powerful gangs ... Midwest reformed germans/Lutherans, the line starts here. Arm Up. Octoberfest rally soon. lol
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (yKAUL)
Gasol is from Spain, btw. What a great guy.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (sNESL)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (wPiJc)
Kneeling is a signal of submission.
Of course, who knows how many of the kneelers are converted mohammedans?
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:37 PM (s5o+q)
So your Dad God rest his soul was wrong on multiple counts.
You never know what people's peeves are.
Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2017 03:37 PM (jHrzU)
Trump should ignore the signs callingour military baby killers, while the left purposefully actually kills babies by the millions
Trump should ignore the health care bill, because some of the country makes out like bandits while the other half struggles to pay for all the free surgeries for the new approved citizens.
You know what Trump should just pardy hardy and talk shit about the country much like Obama and the left,because Hey those coktails can't drink themselves.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 03:37 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:16 PM (63oy9)
Might I respectfully suggest that you ramp it up a bit, I don't think people here are getting the point!
I'm off to not watch TV some more, but might try to find the Moore rally (and Nigel Farage) on the intertubes tomorrow!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 24, 2017 03:37 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Puppy Bowl at September 24, 2017 03:34 PM (cQdY5)
Of course, you guys would roll on your backs to get skritches.
Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 03:37 PM (sdi6R)
since this crap has been going on for a few years now, they can't claim to be raising awareness about anything.
What do they want?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 24, 2017 03:37 PM (h1jJh)
We, the consumers, get to vote with our dollars and our actions and eyeballs just as well.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: kraken
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Yes. Improved my cash flow, too.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 03:29 PM (KP5rU)
Fark the Fudge Packers with a goal post. Sideways
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: blaster at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (jHrzU)
Gasol is from Spain, btw. What a great guy.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (sNESL)
--That is awesome, especially considering what an anti-Trump cunny his coach is.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (GsAUU)
Serious question... for you who have cut the cable... did you find it liberating??
Holy shit, if I cut off streaming my wife would shoot me, set me on fire, then pour acid on my ashes.
Streaming is like owning the ultimate VCR/PVR. There is so much stuff available you could start today and never catch up, the rest of your life. Even if you watched 24/7/365.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 03:39 PM (EgwCt)
Posted by: Iblis at September 24, 2017 03:39 PM (9221z)
basically, give us everythingwe want relevant or not , and we'll ask for new stuff next week.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 03:39 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: Puppy Bowl at September 24, 2017 03:39 PM (cQdY5)
If u think I made this up, or that I read it in The Onion, guess again.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 03:39 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (v6Osy)
To call us all racists, just like last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, etc.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (w7KSn)
Guess he'll be kneeling for a while.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (70QTT)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: rammajamma at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (oAlzZ)
Standing is enough respect for the government.
Kneeling is for gods and monarchs.
I guess Trump is WINNING
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (FKrah)
...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM (oVJmc)
Is there really that much out there on OTA? I disconnected my old antenna when getting the chimney cleaned and never bothered to hook it back up?
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (gwPgz)
http://tinyurl.com/yaozkngw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (iVOAv)
Thank you. Makes me happy!
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 03:41 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 03:41 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: kraken at September 24, 2017 03:41 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 03:41 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:42 PM (Sfs6o)
A good deal of the present players are criminals... Just look up some of their backgrounds...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2017 03:42 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 03:42 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 03:42 PM (KP5rU)
what hypocrits
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 03:42 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: rammajamma at September 24, 2017 03:43 PM (oAlzZ)
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 03:42 PM (bfUpy)
Knees are the elbows of the legs.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:43 PM (s5o+q)
The Dallas Armed Robbers against the Pennsylvania Pedos?
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 03:43 PM (6FqZa)
http://tinyurl.com/yaozkngw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2017 03:36 PM (iVOAv)
good, let the overpaid, uneducated (deleted, deleted, deleted) sons of crack whores know what shitheads they really are
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 03:45 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 03:45 PM (KP5rU)
Nearly a week after refuting claims made against owner Jeffrey Lurie regarding unsigned quarterback Colin Kaepernick, the Philadelphia Eagles revealed Wednesday that Roger Goodell paid a visit to the city after the team's season opener, meeting with Lurie, Eagles players, local police and politicians to discuss criminal justice reform.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 03:45 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: filbert
******
Comments like this are why I love this place!
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 03:45 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 03:46 PM (/43JA)
Posted by: Puppy Bowl at September 24, 2017 03:39 PM (cQdY5)
--I love it when the Puppy Bowl takes a time out to clean up peepee.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:46 PM (GsAUU)
But it just hit me - this shit is boring as hell Tom Servo
It is an auro and a social thing ... but now the anti-America left is is there flinging their poop ... kills all that.
It IS boring ... I can see the great plays in a few minutes, nothing all that great. Growing and building things, hunting, reading, nature .. SO MANY other things to do. And those things can be social with better interaction than revolving around idiot athletes. Get involved locally in Real Life.
I had season tickets one year for the Saints ... OK ... not so great. Got even free tickets for other big events in the dome ... final four ... tiny little players down there somewhere. Sugar Bowl ... OK, look at them run. lol
Fishing was more direct hands on personally involved thing ... games? just, dirnk some beer and try to act excited.
Time for a Change in Culture.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 03:46 PM (yKAUL)
499 FS, I noticed in that video that none of the cheerleaders took a knee.
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 03:42 PM (bfUpy)
Knees are the elbows of the legs.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:43 PM (s5o+q)
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I would like to reward all of the cheerleaders with an offer of free leg humping.
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:46 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 24, 2017 03:46 PM (h1jJh)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:47 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 03:47 PM (FQKBL)
This has always been about the "resistance" aka Obama grass roots organization to take down Trump. All the black athletes are being asked to support the greatest POTUS of all time Obama and his efforts against the racist Trump who is undoing everything Obama accomplished.
I don't think its coincidence that Trump's speech aligns with NFL players requesting the whole month of November to be "activist promotion" month. November? Huh, oh wait that's when most election voting happens. This is an attempt to use the NFL media platform as a Obama/Dem brainwashing platform right at election time. And the NFL team owners are playing along. Trump knows this and is given notice he will take an axe to that platform unless the owners start acting like the adults in the room.
Posted by: Ceasar at September 24, 2017 03:47 PM (x8dHd)
--That is awesome, especially considering what an anti-Trump cunny his coach is.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (GsAUU)
Yep, and btw his name is Pau, not Paul. I should've checked my autocorrect.
I hope it's not a photoshop and I hope we see more pushback like this. I might have to buy that shirt too.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 03:47 PM (sNESL)
Which means no arrests to be made of people of color... Well, it's what they want..
Posted by: It's me donna at September 24, 2017 03:47 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: goon at September 24, 2017 03:47 PM (EaQ6/)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:48 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:48 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: grammie winger at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (lwiT4)
I love seeing the idiots get all stampy-feets about the latest Outrageous Outrage.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (T/7Cm)
overwhelming compared to weeks past. They are clearly protesting Trump
now. The narrative has now changed. His fault for that.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (63oy9)
I agree, Trump has made nothing but unforced errors for the past year, and see what it has gotten him, overwhelming criticism. Nothing but criticism from the MSM, from North Korea and Venezuela, and when will we ever recover from that? Conservatism will never go back to what it was before last year.
Brian, what stance do you think Trump should take?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (Gv+zt)
Posted by: kraken at September 24, 2017 03:41 PM (zSVEm)
That's what I did several years ago. I pay only for cable internet and stream programming. I don't think I miss very much. Almost anything I want to watch is available, it's just not always as convenient--have to locate it sometimes.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (398bZ)
Is there a food thread or gun thread in the rotation?
I very seldom ask, however this stuff is getting pretty old.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (S/hVx)
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Lift the tail and check, then you'll have your answer
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:48 PM (GsAUU)
Which is pretty damn depressing if you think about it.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:50 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Puppy Bowl'
Get that son of a bitch off the field! Any give him a doggy biscuit!
Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 03:50 PM (UdKB7)
It's fun to bash the "dumb jock" stereotype, but NFL players of all races are actually in the aggregate smarter and better raised than the rest of their cohort, on average.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:48 PM (GsAUU)
Did not know that. Then... why are they acting so stupid??
Posted by: kraken at September 24, 2017 03:50 PM (zSVEm)
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Lift the tail and check, then you'll have your answer
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (z2W2E)
I prefer to go with a vague gut feeling.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 03:50 PM (NWiLs)
The individual teams were always tax-paying companies. The league office used to not be a corporate entity at all -- just a bunch of contracts among the teams -- and so it didn't pay separate taxes, unlike the MLB front office and the other leagues. IIRC, this was recently changed out of shaming. The added taxes are not significant.
Real scandal is how franchises rape municipalities with tax-exempt stadium bonds.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:50 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: Muldoon
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like slaveowners used to make their slaves do ? interesting.....
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 03:51 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 03:51 PM (FQKBL)
Is there really that much out there on OTA? I disconnected my old antenna when getting the chimney cleaned and never bothered to hook it back up?
I get fifty channels and sub-channels. Weeding out home shopping, religious stations, and other filler, I still have about 25 that include all networks, a bunch of rerun channels, a couple of movie channels, a college sports channel, several specialty channels of PBS, and a few others. Still working on getting one station to come in that might give me several more. Frankly, far more of these I actually watch compared to when I had Uverse.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 03:51 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: original jake at September 24, 2017 03:51 PM (/43JA)
Thou shalt NOT, however, protest against socialism, BLM, Islam, or any of the kneeling retards!
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 03:51 PM (tIhIY)
videos for the WWII war effort. He worked for GE for decades traveling
to the assorted branches and giving very patriotic and inspirational
speeches to the employees
Reagan was in a reserve cavalry unit prewar. Transfered to the USAAF to make training films after the war started. Wasn't deployed overseas due to nearsightedness. Discharged as a captain in 1945.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2017 03:51 PM (O5Q3r)
Guess he'll be kneeling for a while.
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Because in the US black men have to suck cock to get medical treatment??? If only you guys had Single Blower like here you wouldn't have to worry about things like this.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2017 03:51 PM (mJ8mX)
Posted by: Weasel
*****
You'd better go with both, just to be sure.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (FQKBL)
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Not enough beer in the world ....
Posted by: grammie winger at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: illiniwek
I'm half Sicilian. I'll manage...
Posted by: Don Cavil at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (66CWr)
In an earlier post, someone analogized the NFL's ratings decline to BB's (supposed) ratings decline, i.e., because of Bryan Cranston's leftwing political posturing.
Since I was unaware that BB had ever even HAD such a ratings decline, I went back & checked a little.
I couldn't find anything to support the premise, i.e., that BB had ever HAD a ratings decline.
If that happened, I just couldn't find it.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (v6Osy)
Is there a food thread or gun thread in the rotation?
I very seldom ask, however this stuff is getting pretty old.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 24, 2017 03:49 PM (S/hVx)
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Should be a food thread up soon. Maybe with a special surprise element!
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (Sfs6o)
Cable tv: Pick up remote and check what is on. Oh, middle of program. Damn.
Streaming: Pick up remote and decide what you feel like watching. Movie? Comedy? Music? An actor/actress you like? Something from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's, 10's or more current?
Find something. Start watching. Pause. The next day resume watching exactly where you left off.
It's not *less* than cable. It's better.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (EgwCt)
Posted by: kraken
The only thing I missed initially was TCM, then saw some more recent programming in hotels... It was all hosted by vile progtard Ben Wanksalot... so now I miss NOTHING about cable...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (qul7b)
... I was raised Lutheran ... not so devoted now, but still fine with Lutherans ... nailing his specific 95 doctrinal complaints on the overbearing church door, how cool is that? It was the early AoS. Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (yKAUL)
Word is that it's the offensive linemen who do best on the standard intelligence test the NFL uses.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:53 PM (cAXIk)
Look at Harvard. Smart has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 03:53 PM (tIhIY)
Posted by: Weasel
free car under your seat !
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 03:53 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (Sfs6o)
Oh, dear . . .
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:53 PM (s5o+q)
Did not know that. Then... why are they acting so stupid??
Posted by: kraken at September 24, 2017 03:50 PM (zSVEm)
--Why do so many Ph.D.s hate America, for that matter?
Hell if I know.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:54 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, With His Own Concerns, In Lafayette at September 24, 2017 03:54 PM (3/HOt)
... I was raised Lutheran ... not so devoted now, but still fine with Lutherans ... nailing his specific 95 doctrinal complaints on the overbearing church door, how cool is that? It was the early AoS.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (yKAUL)
We can all bring our letters and nail them to the nearest wooden door!
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:55 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 24, 2017 03:55 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 03:55 PM (ghofu)
Should be a food thread up soon. Maybe with a special surprise element!
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:52 PM (Sfs6o)
Uh huh.
Posted by: Disgruntled fast food workers at September 24, 2017 03:55 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 03:55 PM (UdKB7)
IIRC BB didn't have the increase some expected because people started time shifting and getting streaming, etc.
I for one used to time shift so I could fast forward through the Sklyer scenes, which caused me to miss the "I'm the one who knocks" speech. My son still laughs about this.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:56 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2017 03:56 PM (7hB0y)
It's not *less* than cable. It's better.
--
The marginally less convenient part comes in if you want or require live broadcasting. While there are channels you can pay for that provide some of that, not everything is available. Sp, if you want the Emmys or the local news or are watching for hurricanes, you either visit with others or get it OTA or something else.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:56 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 03:57 PM (tIhIY)
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 03:53 PM (cAXIk)
--Wunderlich.
It's actually a pretty tough test.
Vince Young notoriously flunked it (score of 15/100, IIRC). Great college player, and Rookie of the Year, then the NFL solved him and he disappeared.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:57 PM (GsAUU)
Did my sauce recipe finally amke it into a Food Thread!?
Posted by: Sum Yung Gai at September 24, 2017 03:58 PM (7hB0y)
Guess he'll be kneeling for a while.
Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 03:40 PM (70QTT)
bwahahaha. Like to see more of that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 03:58 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 24, 2017 03:58 PM (qul7b)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2017 03:56 PM (7hB0y)
Undoubtedly.
Some might have actually protested first. But maybe not.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (s5o+q)
Did my sauce recipe finally amke it into a Food Thread!?
Posted by: Sum Yung Gai at September 24, 2017 03:58 PM (7hB0y)
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I think it's a candidate for the cover.
Posted by: Weasel at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 24, 2017 03:55 PM (gC2IV)
--Thank you, Lone Watie.
BTW, he must have been inspired by the IRL Stand Watie, CSA.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (z2W2E)
Hope it's not about pumpkins spice. Yep, it's pumpkin spice season again. of all the weird fads in America, this one baffles me the most.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (T/7Cm)
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (7DG+y)
Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 04:00 PM (UdKB7)
Absolutely! I thought it would be harder to get used to. Wasn't bad at all. And there was the satisfaction of not contributing to ESPN, the MFM, shows that insulted anything dear to me, ads that assume I'm terminally stupid or so inconsequential that I don't matter, etc. And I get more reading done now.
We have an OTA antenna that brings in a few local stations in case of emergency. The best part is MeTV that gives us "Have Gun Will Travel" and "Svengoolie". It also allows us to realize how piss poor local news has become.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 04:00 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:00 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: logprof
depends how you define "cohort"
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 04:00 PM (yKAUL)
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 04:01 PM (tIhIY)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 03:56 PM (z2W2E)
A lot of people are using YouTube as a platform to provide real-time content. I expect it to increase exponentially.
For example I can watch FoxNews right now on YouTube.
I was watching real-time Hurricane stuff last week from YouTube peeps in Key West.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 04:01 PM (EgwCt)
She's very apolitical and loves her sports so I'm getting a lot of pushback about canceling redzone.
Posted by: Defenestratus at September 24, 2017 04:01 PM (a9n6M)
guy gets fired.
lefties part 2: What? It's the players' right to say Fuck America.
what happens when it's normies getting dissed?
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:03 PM (XhN8Z)
For example I can watch FoxNews right now on YouTube.
I was watching real-time Hurricane stuff last week from YouTube peeps in Key West.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 04:01 PM (EgwCt)
Watching the NH NASCAR race, live, right now on YouTube.
Saw no kneeling during the Anthem.
Bunch of 4K stuff on YouTube, too.
Posted by: Golfman at September 24, 2017 04:03 PM (48QDY)
guy loses job.
lefties part 4: Kapeernick is stunning and courageous.
kaepernick gets what?
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:03 PM (XhN8Z)
You should get her some flowers, a really nice and thoughtful card and then print up a Gift Certifcate for 1 Year Subscription (with automatic renewal) to a new service called The Bone Zone.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2017 04:04 PM (7hB0y)
Trump will hear you.
#DumpNFL
#DumpBud
Posted by: Rick at September 24, 2017 04:04 PM (O9UEn)
lefties choose your normie speech is hate, you get fired.
you notice lefties are pretty fucking hate filled, you get double dose of lefty hate or you get fired.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:04 PM (XhN8Z)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I AM OFTEN ACCUSED OF STABBING PEOPLE WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT.
OKAY IT'S NOT FUNNY. IT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK IS FUN.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 24, 2017 04:05 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:05 PM (ghofu)
Trump will hear you.
#DumpNFL
#DumpBud
***
good idea, as if they care, they're like the dems, just go switch to their clamato patrons
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:06 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Olddog in mo at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (i2Ly6)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I AM OFTEN ACCUSED OF STABBING PEOPLE WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT.
OKAY IT'S NOT FUNNY. IT'S JUST SOMETHING I THINK IS FUN.
***
I think I like this...
large athletic athlete be all like "say that to my face"
why? What are you going to do?
How about you come back in 10 years when you're old, fat, and arthritic?
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (7hB0y)
https://twitter.com/steelers
Jacksonville twitter
https://twitter.com/Jaguars
Ravens twitter
https://twitter.com/ravens
Amusing responses from the fans, in these.
Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (gKOMX)
I was a big BB fan. Watched every episode, the same season it was broadcast.
MY MEMORY is that Cranston only revealed his lefty views AFTER BB went into reruns. That's just my recollection. I know I wasn't aware that he was a leftoid until fairly recently.
I was in AK once. Heard some other tourists talking BB in a restaurant. I went over & joined these strangers, and I fit in instantly! It was like a club.
I still have a lot of "plot point" issues with BB-- things I found so unbelievable that it hurt the show... but do what? It was wunnerful anyway!
Did you ever watch the DVD versions where the director Vince Gilligan would discuss each episode in detail?
Who was your favorite supporting actor character? I'm partial to Tuco-- remember him? Walter set him up & Hank shot him dead, as I recall.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (v6Osy)
Trump will hear you.
#DumpNFL
#DumpBud
***
good idea, as if they care, they're like the dems, just go switch to their clamato patrons
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:06 PM (XhN8Z)
Owned by Belgian company InBev.
I doubt the Belgians give a damn about any thing but the bottom line.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (qV5PD)
If so, that's faint praise. I think Key & Peele's football interview skit captures their IQs pretty well.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 04:09 PM (H5knJ)
When the anthem ended and the rest of the team ran out on to the field, many in the Chicago crowd jeered them.
Many Steelers fans registered their dissatisfaction with the team's actions on social media.
Let's see how fast these motherfing brave boys are when they see how really unpopular they are. Let's see how fast these c*cksucking owners are when they get the shit they rightfully deserve. They thought Hillary was going to easily beat Trump and got upset. These pricks are on the wrong side again
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 04:09 PM (auHtY)
Good on CPT Villanueva, though. Well done, Captain!
Posted by: DocJ at September 24, 2017 04:10 PM (7bkOX)
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 04:11 PM (H5knJ)
My favorite side was Tuco too. Amazingly believable psycho badass. And it's Walter's thrill of out-foxing Tuco that puts the dying Walter on his Highway to Hell.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 04:12 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)
Ask Mizzou how that worked out for them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:13 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 24, 2017 04:13 PM (7DG+y)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:15 PM (ghofu)
Whatever that was, it's morphed into something different: owners may own the team, but the mostly black players now own the moment.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 04:16 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)
Ask Mizzou how that worked out for them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:13 PM (SRKgf)
Let's see how many fans they can bench.
(For some reason, reminds me of "How many divisions does the Pope have?")
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 04:16 PM (s5o+q)
We, the consumers, get to vote with our dollars and our actions and eyeballs just as well.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (w7KSn)
Make a public political protest while you're on the clock of your employer. See how far the right to free speech goes to people that aren't whiny rich assholes.
(not an attack on your comment, just making the point.)
Posted by: buzzion at September 24, 2017 04:16 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: logprof
If you define their cohort as lower primates.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:17 PM (SRKgf)
Thx for confirming my recollection about Cranston's political striptease.
His NEXT show "Sneaky Pete" flopped, I read. Never saw it.
While checking the false report that BB had a ratings decline, I discovered the last episode of the final season was a ratings PHENOMENON.
Did u know the actor who played Tuco was a prizefighter, & that he'd never acted before, btw?
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 04:17 PM (v6Osy)
Whatever that was, it's morphed into something different: owners may own the team, but the mostly black players now own the moment.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 04:16 PM (cAXIk)
Virtue-signalling their solidarity with all dem blacks still chained to slavery down in the plantations working the cotton fields.
Or something.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 04:18 PM (s5o+q)
I did buy the Breaking Bad series, because I didn't know about Cranston or whoever the hell played Saul, but I've not bothered with the spinoff/prequel.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 04:19 PM (6FqZa)
I doubt the Belgians give a damn about any thing but the bottom line.
**
a benefit of highest corporate tax rate is crown jewel american companies get bought out by foreigners...of course I'd also blame it on USA's "let's put diversity in charge of everything too" initiative hurting their competitiveness but that's because I am a big meanie.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:20 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Chris M at September 24, 2017 04:21 PM (6RZos)
I knew of Pablo at the time, but was too busy to read newspapers and so didn't know of his exploits until I saw Narcos.
Holy Fucking Shit! The guy was another Stalin.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 04:22 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:22 PM (ghofu)
And Trump was right to lead the pushback on these jerks.
I would also point out from personal experience, with tickets in the stratosphere price wise for major sporting events, most of those people you see sitting in the stands aren't regular joe sports fans, they are customers of corporations who were given tickets for free from the company that buys season tickets. It will be interesting to see if companies continue to spend thousands of dollars on season tickets for an anti American sports franchise to give to customers. Who may not want them.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 04:22 PM (/Qs0S)
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who cares? They know it's a spit in the eye to the fans.
It's like during the flag burning supreme court case, the justices were like, "but what'sthe actual message, should the protestors have a 1-800 number people can call to find out what the point is?"
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:23 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 24, 2017 04:23 PM (7DG+y)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:24 PM (ghofu)
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that's pretty damning. The guy's a team captain, right? Not one other nerd on the steelers joined him? sad.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:25 PM (XhN8Z)
The people that count stood with him.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 04:25 PM (7ulel)
You don't come out of the locker for the National Anthem, and then you lose in OT to a 0-2 by giving up 250 rushing yards.
I wouldn't want to be a Steeler right now. The city is going to be irate.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at September 24, 2017 04:26 PM (gR8uq)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:26 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:26 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: artemis at September 24, 2017 04:27 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:22 PM (ghofu)
Nobody cares.
If we wanted updates, we'd watch the game. Makes sense, yes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:27 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:27 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 24, 2017 04:27 PM (HiK8y)
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 04:27 PM (cAXIk)
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 24, 2017 04:23 PM (7DG+y)
He's better than every single on of them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 04:28 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:28 PM (ghofu)
The corporate largesse is mostly for the private boxes.
Most othe $172/single seats (average price across the league) are occupied by suburbanites who still have to pay for them.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 04:28 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: artemis
***
to be fair, this armed forces thing about the national anthem strikes me as a bit weak.
It's to honor america, including the founding fathers, and the veterans, among others.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:29 PM (XhN8Z)
Whatever that was, it's morphed into something different: owners may own the team, but the mostly black players now own the moment.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 04:16 PM (cAXIk)
They will tell you in all likelihood that it is because there is still rampant racism in the USA, and it is most evident from all the police shootings of innocent blacks all over the country.
It doesn't matter that it's not true, it simply matters that even the suburban raised white guys in the league have been told a thousand times by their black teammates how awful it was in the hood and it's all whiteys fault. They have been told this since junior high and then it doubled down with the urban players who come to college.
And the white guys either believe this, or even if they don't, they don't want to buck their teammates and say, hell no , I'm standing for the flag. And then be ever labled a racist.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 04:29 PM (/Qs0S)
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 24, 2017 04:29 PM (7DG+y)
why do they obey him, then?
Posted by: artemis at September 24, 2017 04:30 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:30 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:30 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 04:30 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:31 PM (ghofu)
When Ray Ray Jr. put his GF through a wall then drug her out of the elevator. The league gave him a 2 game suspension.
The next week the league ran a PSA telling the NFL customers to stop beating their wives. Couldn't take anymore.
This is long before Kap took thr knee.
Posted by: redenzo at September 24, 2017 04:32 PM (5wSNN)
Say certain (legal) things, and a player gets fined/fired.
NFL has set the standard on what (offensive) certain things are fireable offenses. THEY went political to the left ... fine, a corporate decision. Not a legal/criminal decision.
They side with commies, that trashing America and the America loving fans is NOT a fineable/fireable offense.
But thet decided honoring the five murdered Dallas cops IS a fineable/fireable offense. NFL chose the anti-America, pro cop killer BLM side.
Q.E.D.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 04:32 PM (yKAUL)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:30 PM (ghofu)
Thanks!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:32 PM (SRKgf)
Yes, that's the Giants star celebrating like a dog urinating on the Lincoln Financial turf. He was flagged for the display and will in all likelihood be getting a sizable fine from the NFL this week.
How can those bigoted officials flag him or he be fined. Isn't he just expressing himself? Quick the c*ck sucking owners and Goddell need to run out and defend him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 04:32 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: artemis at September 24, 2017 04:32 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 04:32 PM (v6Osy)
Many musicians of all types are as well.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 04:33 PM (ghofu)
but I'm cray cray.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:33 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 24, 2017 04:33 PM (7DG+y)
Posted by: rammajamma at September 24, 2017 04:33 PM (oAlzZ)
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:34 PM (XhN8Z)
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Yes.
Every time I get a junk mail solicitation trying to get me back.
Every time I see the shoulders fall on the guy who tries to sell me
DirecTV at Wal-Mart when I tell him I cut the cord. He doesn't even try
to talk me out of it. He knows he has a losing hand.
Every time a new sub-channel pops up on my digital antenna.
And every month when none of my money goes to fund assholes I want to see starve.
^^^^ THIS!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 03:35 PM
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 24, 2017 04:34 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 24, 2017 04:33 PM (7DG+y)
But the NFL showed the PSAs to US. They should've shown them to the lower primates who work for them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:35 PM (SRKgf)
Acc. to ESPN, they're protesting what Trump said about them. See, it's Trump's fault they're doing it.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 04:35 PM (kuiuS)
Every time I get a junk mail solicitation trying to get me back.
**
that must be like 2X what I feel when my local libtard paper tries to get me to buy a subscription-please-please-PLEASE!!!!
sad.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:35 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: BebeDahl at September 24, 2017 04:36 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 24, 2017 04:36 PM (HiK8y)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 04:36 PM (v6Osy)
sad.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:35 PM (XhN8Z)
I subscribed to Time magazine for 25 years, then shitcanned them unceremoniously. For several years afterward they tried to get me back, sometimes with outrageously cheap offers, but I mailed the reply back to them and told exactly why they'd lost me as a subscriber.
Finally, they gave up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:37 PM (SRKgf)
Acc. to ESPN, they're protesting what Trump said about them. See, it's Trump's fault they're doing it.
***
As Scott Adams is probably going to say, the thing about trump is ... he knows how to pick a target to mock. oh boo hoo, rich jocks who are assholes.
It's too bad his tax plan doesn't give the "rich" any breaks...I've always felt bad for jocks who get maybe a 3 year window of high income before they go min wage. That moment of high income is met with confiscatory taxes. sad.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:37 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:34 PM (XhN8Z)
Tim Tebow was just the worst thing to ever happen to the NFL. They couldn't run him out fast enough. But the ghetto rat criminals are just a-okay in the NFL's book
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 04:38 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:37 PM (XhN8Z)
They're effectively lottery winners; they won the genetic lottery (for athletic ability, anyway), but they're mostly too stupid to realize that they won't be playing forever, and should save some of their windfall.
One new recruit apparently showed up for his first paycheck ($250,000) with a suitcase, thinking that the team would be peeling off $20 bills to pay him. That's the level of financial acumen we're talking about.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:42 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 24, 2017 04:42 PM (HiK8y)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 24, 2017 04:42 PM (HiK8y)
My response to Time: "Cut the commie crap and we'll talk." Also sent by postage paid envelope.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:43 PM (SRKgf)
what am I missing that's pretty big?
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 04:43 PM (FKrah)
I doubt the Belgians give a damn about any thing but the bottom line.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 04:07 PM (s5o+q)
That's good. It means they'll react to a drop in sales.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 04:43 PM (oVJmc)
The corporate largesse is mostly for the private boxes.
Most othe $172/single seats (average price across the league) are occupied by suburbanites who still have to pay for them.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 04:28 PM (v6Osy)
I agree that the boxes are almost all corporate owned. Mr. Jen and I used to entertain customers at his employers corporate owned boxes in Cleveland and Detroit. Recessions, corporate finances, not to mention new stadiums with boxes priced into the $100,000 range with ongoing maintenance fees in the tens of thousands of dollars, doomed keeping them. Even season tickets for sporting events have been cut drastically because of price. He now has very limited packs of tickets for specific markets in which his targeted customers actually want them.
Nascar is a good example. We can hardly give Nascar tickets away( and these are expensive , really great seats) and have cut the number drastically. Most companies today don't spend on entertainment like drunken sailors, between non graf agreements signed with customers, and people choosing to do other things with their limited time, you can waste a lot of money on tickets. Gone are the days when salespeople kept boxes of sporting event tickets in their drawers, they simply don't have the appeal to customers they once did.
So now you have the NFL deciding to make it even less appealing. If they are planning to rely on simply people living in the suburbs to keep their little cabal going, they are really miscalculating in my opinion. People go to concerts, races, and games to enjoy the competition, to feel good about doing something that isn't work, and to have an outing with the family. They don't go to be lectured about politics, religion, the failings of government or themselves.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 04:43 PM (/Qs0S)
Posted by: BebeDahl at September 24, 2017 04:44 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: Brownshirt formerly known as Mike at September 24, 2017 04:45 PM (o38N1)
Posted by: Bill C at September 24, 2017 04:46 PM (HqPBH)
Posted by: BebeDahl at September 24, 2017 04:46 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: Jen the original at
****
I'm sure the corporate fat cats will keep buying corporate booths (or whatever they called) when it's no longer cool or fun or when the stadium is only half filled.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:46 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 04:46 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: CoonAZ at September 24, 2017 04:47 PM (uMSPi)
I see the shitty Bears beat the Steelers. Maybe shithead Tomlin and his cry babies should have stayed in the locker room for the whole game. With the exception of Alejandro Villanueva
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 04:48 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 04:49 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:46 PM (XhN8Z)
Yeah, me too. This is the secret: destroy the cachet of the NFL. "Oh, you still watch/attend NFL games? How retro."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 04:49 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2017 04:49 PM (HvIno)
Posted by: rammajamma at September 24, 2017 04:50 PM (oAlzZ)
Posted by: Richie Mcgrane at September 24, 2017 04:50 PM (+BuYd)
ty for being an American standing with America.
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 04:50 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 04:52 PM (FKrah)
Posted by: rammajamma at September 24, 2017 04:53 PM (oAlzZ)
You simply don't know how readily replaceable you are. The free market is about to steal your lunch money.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 24, 2017 04:54 PM (H8S+R)
Wish I had found and posted before thread died.
http://legaciesalive.com/alejandro-villanueva-creates-new-t-shirt-support-military-charities/
Tiny Link:
http://tinyurl.com/yadzu96p
Also:
TodaysChamps.com
Seems to be where you can buy shirt.
Big Al's Army
100% of proceeds go to military charities.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 04:55 PM (exkr6)
Today will be treated by the pearl-clutching fainting media as a tremendous victory for "solidarity" and "team unity".
They don't know what punishment flyover America has in store for them.
Posted by: gobagoo at September 24, 2017 04:56 PM (A/saJ)
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why it's not like they supported the dallas police against BLM snipers (oh right...) or traditional marriage.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 04:59 PM (XhN8Z)
Millionaire pooflingers infatuated with their own filth.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 04:59 PM (NrE3O)
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Nod. What gets in my craw is our federal tax dollars subsidizing colleges like Jerkeley Berkeley.
Posted by: BebeDahl at September 24, 2017 04:59 PM (yNyJy)
Why is is good, great, American to disrespect the Flag,
BUT not show a picture of Mohammad because it disrespects islam?
i.e. When did islam supersede America to so many people?
Makes me want to go full Honey Badger on their asses...
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at September 24, 2017 05:00 PM (s+PXs)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 24, 2017 05:00 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Gonzotx at September 24, 2017 05:01 PM (vxnA5)
Okay. Forget TodaysChamps.com
Went there & they are sold out.
Gonna check elsewhere.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 05:01 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: BebeDahl at September 24, 2017 05:02 PM (yNyJy)
Millionaire pooflingers infatuated with their own filth.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 04:59 PM (NrE3O)
I would. I'd throw a monumental party.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 05:07 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Tom22ndState at September 24, 2017 05:08 PM (uV7Df)
protesting the country they're protesting Trump, which will make it an
acceptable action by legitimately changing the narrative. Of all the
things he could've railed against this was the wrong thing.
===
The concern is wide today.
And deep.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 05:08 PM (NrE3O)
Millionaire pooflingers infatuated with their own filth.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 04:59 PM (NrE3O)
Seconded
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 05:09 PM (auHtY)
Those of you younger than 20 should probably know that all this bullshit is not normal.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:10 PM (XhN8Z)
Dammit!
I can't find the shirt anywhere.
It must have been limited release or something...which seems weird for charities.
Maybe something else replaced it but not gonna do anymore searching right now, and didn't run across anything.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 05:10 PM (exkr6)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 05:11 PM (3myMJ)
****
I know, right? He's going to drag the whole GOP down with him and Hillary's going to waltz right into the white house in 2016.
Sit down, and shut up, Jeb!
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:11 PM (XhN8Z)
Cubs Win! The magic number is 2. Please MLB don't go SJW and let me still enjoy this sport
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 05:11 PM (auHtY)
***
this is probably true. which is sad.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:13 PM (XhN8Z)
acceptable
Once again, The Left miscalculates. "I know- let's double down!"
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 05:14 PM (kuiuS)
"Hey we were going to not be assholes but then trump said we shouldn't be assholes, so now we're going to be assholes"
the circular logic loop liberal brain should probably focus harder.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:16 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Gonzotx at September 24, 2017 05:16 PM (vxnA5)
Posted by: Tom22ndState at September 24, 2017 05:17 PM (J+uhl)
It will have an effect, especially if there's a Goodell sanctioned month of rage in November.
A lot of valuation is driven by growth and momentum, Take that away and ...
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 05:17 PM (cAXIk)
He reach across the aisle. Perhaps join the kneelers in solidarity.
Roll over. Show his belly . Wet himself.
Works for us.
Posted by: Jeb, Mitt, Flake,Lindsey, Ryan, McConnell at September 24, 2017 05:17 PM (2wRtc)
Not alone...
Posted by: Gonzotx at September 24, 2017 05:18 PM (vxnA5)
I was shocked.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 05:18 PM (XFue2)
He reach across the aisle. Perhaps join the kneelers in solidarity.
Roll over. Show his belly . Wet himself.
Works for us.
Posted by: Jeb, Mitt, Flake,Lindsey, Ryan, McConnell
***
remember, folks, the only way the GOP can get the moderate voter is to act as if their ideas are embarassing and never mention them publicly and hope to get that sweet sweet "is it a hanging chad or a miscast vote" ballot tally to sweep them into office.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:19 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Trump's IRS at September 24, 2017 05:19 PM (2wRtc)
Posted by: not the mama at September 24, 2017 05:19 PM (GCQK2)
you spend one more dollar or one more minute on any business that
allows--and now approves of this behavior, then you are kneeling as well.
Posted by: goozer at September 24, 2017 05:21 PM (sq+HB)
Its almost as if Trump is single handedly growing the GOP/Republican party.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 05:21 PM (XFue2)
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The two Cartel hitmen with the cowboy boots with the silver skulls were also non-actors.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 24, 2017 05:22 PM (mJ8mX)
MereWife and I were huge fans, season ticket holders. We got rid of the tickets years ago and stopped watching several years back. Any griping we do now is meaningless, we were already non-fans. Because it got boring, the greatest sin.
Time will tell but that's my guess for now.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 05:23 PM (3myMJ)
OK.
But first, you will blow me.
Posted by: Mel Gibson at September 24, 2017 05:24 PM (jWe5r)
Posted by: Tom22ndState at September 24, 2017 05:24 PM (J+uhl)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:25 PM (v6Osy)
They'll have a lot of room to do it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 05:25 PM (oVJmc)
The NFL is going to show us. They'll make us stop going to the games, watching it on TV and buying their products. We'll really suffer by not financially supporting them any more.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 05:26 PM (auHtY)
Most of these "live" events are considered highly valuable due to people tuning in. There is no replacement for "live" events BUT there is going to be new entertainment that will crush all others in the form of VR. It will be the new crack for losers or sports fans. Hours and hours and hours of playing imaginary games and living an imaginary life. It will make it hard for the left to recruit losers for Antifa since they will be busy role playing Kim Jong-Un in their fantasy world.
Posted by: Ceasar at September 24, 2017 05:27 PM (x8dHd)
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:27 PM (XhN8Z)
Your soon to be Muzzy overloards will be happy
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 05:29 PM (ghofu)
***
I'm big into DFS and the MLB gambling got me to get the mlb ticket for all the games. But the nfl gives away their product with the red zone so who cares...plus the games happen either all at once or one at a time.
anyway, it's already happening where the nfl tv networks are giving advertisers refunds
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:29 PM (XhN8Z)
I liked Uncle Jack (the prison gang leader) VERY much. I thought he helped keep the show in top form at the end.
I loved the way he very casually insisted on taking one last drag on his cigarette: no words, just gestures 'hold on just a second before you shout me. OK. Thx"
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:30 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Locke Common at September 24, 2017 05:30 PM (3acku)
The Super Bowl was actually the first thing I stopped watching.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 05:30 PM (Sv2/X)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:31 PM (v6Osy)
Both my current city and my soon to be home are NFL cities. Both of their NFL teams disgraced themselves and dishonored their country today. I will follow neither of them and neither will get one red cent from me.
I'm boycotting, but one of my bros just sent me a video of the personal foul penalty that did in the Broncos today. Anybody see it? Dude offered a hand to help up Bills QB Tyrod Taylor, then did the ol' schoolyard "psyche" and pulled his hand away. Juvenile AF. Overgrown babies.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 24, 2017 05:31 PM (ul9CR)
I hear you, and there is certainly a contingent of that going on. But over at the sporting websites, ie CBSSports and ESPN, the blowback is immense. It isn't just us - a LOT of people are seriously pissed off now and will vote with their feet.
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 05:31 PM (L+jGz)
Disagree. The polling and surveys show the protests are having an impact.
And judging by some social media feeds today? Many of my apolitical friends have had enough.
I haven't watched a single minute over the last two seasons, and it's amazing how I've found other things to watch and do.
What was 'meh' has now become 'fuck them hard' to me.
Never going back.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at September 24, 2017 05:33 PM (jWe5r)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 05:34 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 05:35 PM (L+jGz)
I think you'll find there's been an acceleration. The game itself for the last fifteen years or whatever, and then a "knee" in the graph starting last year.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 05:35 PM (Sv2/X)
***
this is probably true. which is sad.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw
I don't know. You have to boil the frog slowly. PDT has tricked the NFL into boiling it quickly. So maybe the frog will in fact jump out of the pot.
The fans will be confronted by a distasteful spectacle at the beginning of every game, and will be reminded of it continually as they watch the participants play during the actual game.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 05:35 PM (/qEW2)
I can only speak for myself...
I have not watched a game yet this year... I will turn it on, and watch the National Anthem...
If even ONE player disrespects the anthem, I then turn it off.
Raiders fan for over 50 years... but won't support this crap...
Your mileage may vary.... but thats this EX fans story...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 05:36 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2017 05:36 PM (FhXTo)
I notice the NFL gameday chatter at another conservative website I visit is about the same as always. Like the other 2 posters you reference, I'm skeptical that anything will really change.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:37 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: t-bird
*snort*. Someone should do a cartoon of Michael Mann as a sportscaster showing a "knee" graph.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 05:38 PM (/qEW2)
Roger Goodell, Commissioner
National Football League
345 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10154
DeMaurice Smith, Executive Director
NFL Players Association
1133 20th St. NW
Washington, DC 20036
Sean McManus, Chairman
CBS Sports
51 W 52nd St.
New York, NY 10019-6188
Advertisers:
Verizon
DirecTV
The Home Depot
Cricket Wireless
Indeed (internet job site)
Quicken Loans
Southwest Airlines
Veteran's Administration
Just For Men
Jeep
Corona beer
Old Spice
Sony (PlayStation) /
Activision /
Bungie (game-maker?)
Taco Bell
AT&T
Dodge
Target
GEICO
Realtor.com
FedEx
Energizer
Michelob Ultra
Lincoln Continental
Sonic
Pizza Hut
M&M's
Motorola
Dominoes Pizza
Pepsi
McDonald's
AARP
Calvin Klein
Do with that what you think best.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 05:38 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 05:38 PM (3myMJ)
And furthermore - pro football is dying from the ground up. More and more teenage boys are turning to other sports. Witness the growth of lacrosse, for example. The league is in a VERY precarious place, and maybe just maybe Trump nudged them over a precipice.
Remember too: the SJW will never apologize, and never admit wrong. They will always and only double down. There is no way out for the NFL apart from us forgiving them.
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 05:39 PM (L+jGz)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 05:39 PM (oVJmc)
Wait... the VETERANS Administration is a sponsor of the NFL???
Sooooo... my TAX DOLLAR???
WTF????
Paging President Trump.... President Trump to the White MAGA phone...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 05:40 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: TitanTom at September 24, 2017 05:40 PM (BeAI2)
Impressive research.
I tend to save what little firepower I can muster for actual elections, but sincere good luck.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:40 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 05:40 PM (mcI77)
Many people are looking for an excuse to kick the league to the curb. This may be it...or not. But the non-political types might be getting it.
Posted by: Dude at September 24, 2017 05:41 PM (L+jGz)
I would like to see Trump call an end to paid government advertising across the board.
We don't need to be soliciting people for food stamps.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 05:42 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Iblis at September 24, 2017 05:42 PM (9221z)
Your soon to be Muzzy overloards will be happy
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 05:29 PM (ghofu)
I have to ask, who was her opponent and what did they stand for? Or did she have her very own John McCain or Mitt Romney in opposition who refused to say she is singlehandedly destroying Germany?
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 05:43 PM (/Qs0S)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:40 PM (v6Osy)
At least you know who to avoid, or at least minimize your contact with going forward.
And, when possible, ask the question "why does X support divisive acts in America?"
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 05:43 PM (s5o+q)
I may be wrong, too. Happens a lot!
I often find myself posting, "I hope I'm wrong," & my wish is granted frequently.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:45 PM (v6Osy)
Besides. Mr. Goddell has been a disaster for the league. For instance, does anyone find it curious that a man who is so obsessed with the idea of having an NFL team in London sells this notion by sending horrible, D-list football teams to London to play? Yet, he is obsessed with the idea of holding a Super Bowl there, or expanding there.
He actually turned the Pro Bowl into a middle school P.E. game for a period by having two football players pick the players from a list. The Pro Bowl isn't that great to begin with but I was perfectly fine with it being on a week after the Super Bowl, and in Hawaii. That was fine. Mr. Goddell HAS to tinker with it, though, and constantly.
His treatment of successful football teams like the Patriots (though it was in the tradition of a society like ours that, underneath the layer of complete, utter bullshit of how much we admire success and hard work, etc, in truth passionately hate both) is horrifying to say the least.
Now this.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 24, 2017 05:45 PM (0Maat)
The larger protests today will mean lots of talk about protests from the announcers, which will annoy people. Those who are putting up with this crap don't want to hear about how wonderful it is from football announcers.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 05:46 PM (3myMJ)
The Che Guevara t-shirt I want to wear features him soon after arrival in Bolivia in 1967.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 24, 2017 05:47 PM (0Maat)
This is what I really care about. Pro sports can go EABOD.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 05:47 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:47 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2017 05:47 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 05:48 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 05:47 PM (mcI77)
Culture is upstream from politics. Sports is part of culture.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 05:49 PM (s5o+q)
Disagree. The polling and surveys show the protests are having an impact.
And judging by some social media feeds today? Many of my apolitical friends have had enough.
That's what I am seeing also. There is the critical mass element; the straw/camel issue. Bombardment everywhere about this stuff. If it was just some football players and not every arm of the Medusa Borg complex, I could see people not caring and staying with it. But it has now become symptomatic in all areas of life, and never-ending.
We are in uncharted territory, and every week there's some damn thing. But when your players take a knee in England of all places, and people praise Fat Boy over Trump, this is hitting people's radar in new ways. With it being almost one year of Trump & tantrums just escalating, I think even apolitical people are getting ticked off.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 05:49 PM (bG/5x)
To ensure their future, they've got to get Pajama Boys playing football. Kind of like how the GOPe works so hard at letting "natural conservatives" into the country. Best o' luck, boys!
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 05:49 PM (kuiuS)
Post of the day.
Posted by: Max Power at September 24, 2017 05:50 PM (QCc6B)
Yes, Judge Roy Bean will win. I'd bet anything on it, but I'm not sure how consequential that is.
Anyway, the. MSM will construe Moore's victory to mean that Trump's base has turned on him at last!
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:50 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: MAGA at September 24, 2017 05:52 PM (LnOh3)
I think you'll find there's been an acceleration. The game itself for the last fifteen years or whatever, and then a "knee" in the graph starting last year.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 05:35 PM (Sv2/X)
It amazes me , when watching the draft, how Goodell almost can't be heard announcing draft picks over the constant chorus of boos directed toward him. He is very proud of it, and apparently, so are the owners who keep putting him back as commissioner.
Also, don't forget that the NFL is looking at additional CTE lawsuits. Whether they will have any merit or not remains to be seen, but someday a judge is going to order the game either significantly changed to where no one wants to watch it, or the NFL will not be able to buy insurance for itself anymore,
Aaron Hernadez' lawyer filed a lawsuit this week on behalf of his family. His autopsy report came back that he had severe CTE. How you get severe CTE at age 27 after having played football in the NFL for only two years is beyond me, but regardless , this lawsuit will prove interesting. They always go after the deep pockets.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 05:52 PM (/Qs0S)
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whoa whoas, that will drive the moderates from the GOP! The 2016 election will be, to quote Charles Cooke, a sterilization of the GOP from elected office.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:53 PM (XhN8Z)
Let's see what the next few weeks brings.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 05:53 PM (3myMJ)
This is what I really care about. Pro sports can go EABOD.
And yet the escalation of the NFL's situation is perfectly timed to help Moore. We're talking nine-dimensional chess here! (well, if Moore wins.)
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 05:53 PM (tIhIY)
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right...that's why I am not watching GreenBay right now because they game sucks.
No...I don't go to the games at the stadiums because the game day (at least redskins) experience is pure shit.
nah, I think at least a few normals have boycotted.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 05:54 PM (XhN8Z)
anybody that don't stand up for the anthem oughta be out of the country. Period. Wehat got 'em where they're at? The United States. Richard Petty.
Posted by: Iblis at September 24, 2017 05:56 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Iblis at September 24, 2017 05:57 PM (9221z)
Hollywood Henderson may have been right when he said that Bradshaw couldn't spell "cat" if you spotted him the "c" and the "a".
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 24, 2017 05:59 PM (AZD0r)
Posted by: jayhawkone at September 24, 2017 05:59 PM (ZD+J8)
All players, including Hernandez, if they played before 2014, are barred from filing suit under the class action settlement-- unless they opted out, which neither Hernandez nor any other player (rare exceptions) did.
The NFL IS furiously addressing the CTE problem-- new space age helmets that are patterned after car bumpers. They BEND. The old helmets were like plate armor, only with padding. Got to give the devil his due here.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:59 PM (v6Osy)
Oh, and Alejandro Villanueva...thank you.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2017 06:00 PM (Tyii7)
Lester Moonves of CBS was right. It's not about making money anymore. It's about bragging rights.
Virtue signalling is the new blow jobs.
Posted by: Infidel de Manahatta at September 24, 2017 06:00 PM (IHbnu)
Posted by: Iblis at September 24, 2017 06:00 PM (9221z)
Nah, they're just being pussies. Acquiescing. Afraid to follow the instincts that probably got them into FatCatsville to begin with.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 06:00 PM (Sv2/X)
Posted by: Mike at September 24, 2017 06:01 PM (c056A)
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Posted by: Ceasar
Question (from someone who is not a football fan). As far as I know, gambling or fantasy football are private activities that wouldn't involve anything like paying a license fee to the NFL, so when you say they "drive the growth", I assume you mean they *indirectly* drive it, by promoting interest in watching games?
I've played superbowl boxes myself, but I just looked at the news to see what the scores were to see if I won, I didn't actually watch. I don't see how the NFL necessarily benefits at all from those hobbies.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 06:01 PM (/qEW2)
P.S. There is an old saying among lawyers: "You can always sue the Pope for bastardy." The idea is, you can sue but you can't win.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 06:03 PM (v6Osy)
Yeah, that's why I passed on the defending Super Bowl champs, who I've been watching since they played in Fenway Park, pull out a last second win.
Half the team is kneeling? Goodbye, I'm gone.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2017 06:04 PM (O5Q3r)
Nah, they're just being pussies. Acquiescing. Afraid to follow the instincts that probably got them into FatCatsville to begin with.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 06:00 PM (Sv2/X)
Actually, the owners are mostly tweeting support for the players...
They are now active participants in the insanity...
The could have just remained silent...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 06:04 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Mike at September 24, 2017 06:01 PM (c056A)
That's okay with the NFL. Everything I've seen and heard indicates that the league wants to move the Jags to London anyway.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 06:05 PM (s5o+q)
"America (a place I fucking hate) is not about patriotism being forced down us or something so I salure the nfl (that I never watch) for blah blah blah"
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 06:06 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: wontsubmit at September 24, 2017 06:06 PM (122Gu)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 06:08 PM (v6Osy)
Hollywood Henderson may have been right when he said that Bradshaw couldn't spell "cat" if you spotted him the "c" and the "a".
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 24, 2017 05:59 PM (AZD0r)
Nice of Terry to grab a shovel and help dig the hole a little deeper
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 06:09 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 06:11 PM (bG/5x)
Those of you younger than 20 should probably know that all this bullshit is not normal.
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oh this is fun...sad...Melanie Allen Smith shot in a church today in america by Emanuel Kidega Samson...a Sudanese "migrant".
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 06:13 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2017 06:14 PM (Tyii7)
1) The protest backlash fizzled. NFL had the best weekend in history; and
2) Trump really shot himself in the foot THIS time!*
* "Could This Be the Beginning of the End For Trump? Many Experts Say 'Yes' "
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 06:14 PM (v6Osy)
That's the point that's really at the core of all this.
It's the same double-standard we see in politics and pop cuture-- conservatives get destroyed, libs get a pass for the same behavior or worse.
We're tired of the double-standard, and having it demanded of us to knuckle under to the mob.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 06:15 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 06:15 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:15 PM (7uYFy)
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nfl fines and penalizes players for taunting and bad end zone celebrations and calling each other cocksuckers...but this they can't control.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 06:16 PM (XhN8Z)
#STLCards Matheny said he hasn't any individual conversations re: possible anthem protests, but said he'd support freedom of expression.
Added Matheny: "Unfortunately, what our president said hurt a lot of people." #stlcards
Cant stand the Cardinals anyway, so no loss here.
Posted by: Astute Dude at September 24, 2017 06:16 PM (wOuYw)
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bardshaw is an old school union thug guy who didn't get the memo and instead thinks gay wedding cake facsism is the new union label.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 06:16 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 06:17 PM (v6Osy)
The NFL IS furiously addressing the CTE problem-- new space age helmets that are patterned after car bumpers. They BEND. The old helmets were like plate armor, only with padding. Got to give the devil his due here.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 05:59 PM (v6Osy)
I knew about the class action suit, did not know about the ban on lawsuits.
Hernadez lawyer suing , I agree, is simply dirtbag lawyer trying to enrich himself and get his clients some money. The problem is you still have to defend yourself in a suit and that takes money.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 06:18 PM (/Qs0S)
#STLCards Matheny said he hasn't any individual conversations re: possible anthem protests, but said he'd support freedom of expression.
Added Matheny: "Unfortunately, what our president said hurt a lot of people." #stlcards
Cant stand the Cardinals anyway, so no loss here.
Posted by: Astute Dude at September 24, 2017 06:16 PM (wOuYw)
Well the Tards are looking at getting eliminated soon so Metheny can have a lot of time to get his hurt feeling better
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 06:18 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Mike at September 24, 2017 06:19 PM (c056A)
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2017 06:04 PM (O5Q3r)
I'd be gone too except I left a few years ago because they've ruined the game. So I'm useless for this boycott.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 06:19 PM (3myMJ)
And the crowd goes, "Olé!" as Trump once again pulls the red cape away...
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 06:20 PM (tIhIY)
Nah, they're just being pussies. Acquiescing. Afraid to follow the instincts that probably got them into FatCatsville to begin with.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 06:00 PM (Sv2/X)
You're right. They--and the networks and advertisers--are more afraid of the braying SJW mobs than they are of "normal" Americans.
They also are intimidated by their mostly black "talent."
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:23 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 06:24 PM (/qEW2)
He's the douchebag that has the not funny Branson stand up act right?
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 06:26 PM (mcI77)
He shot people who were from 60 - 83 years old. Big man.
Came here in 1996. Media's stoking of white hate is going to have repercussions. For me, the media has blood on their hands. A Civil Rights investigation is being opened, which is why I put the white thing in...seems to point to a racial aspect.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 06:26 PM (bG/5x)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 06:26 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 06:24 PM (/qEW2)
You missed the Black Power fist in the end zone.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 06:27 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 24, 2017 06:27 PM (DfaM+)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:29 PM (7uYFy)
lol
Now *that* I'd watch.
Chicken dance would be fun too. Or, the Macarena.
The Cowboys could do line dancing.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 06:30 PM (bG/5x)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:30 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 06:11 PM (bG/5x)
Yesterday, a journalist asked Jim Harbaugh, former coach of the 49's and now coach of the Michigan Wolverines, what he thought of Trump's comments .
Harbaugh said, " Check the Constitution".
For what Jim? The first amendment? The one that says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
That one?
The government isn't doing anything to abridge free speech with the exception of leftist universities. His own employer banned the showing of American Sniper at a campus movie night because they said it portrayed Muslims in a bigoted way. Harbaugh ended up complaining with a whole lot of alumni and got the movie reinstated, then he escorted his entire football team to go see it. I applauded that.
Now, he wants to complain that Trump has no right to free speech when he says he thinks any of these PRIVATELY EMPLOYED players should be fired for not standing for the national anthem played purposefully by their employer.
My suspicion is that since Harbaugh's little jaunts with his team to Rome to meet with the Pope(forcing religion on players much Jim?) and his other mega expensive trips, etc. that the NCAA hasn't yet banned are being financed by Stephen Ross, Miami Dolphins owner and moneybags donor to U of M. That trip Harbaugh took his team on last June cost an estimated $350,000 and was paid by an anonymous donor....
He doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds him or his athletic department.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 06:31 PM (/Qs0S)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 06:32 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Mike at September 24, 2017 06:01 PM (c056A)
Someone beat me to it but he Wants to move the Team to London, he also owns a soccer team Fulham that's in London.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 24, 2017 06:33 PM (dKiJG)
The filing fee to file a Mition to Dismiss is around $50-- you could do it.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 06:26 PM (v6Osy)
That's a scary thought, LOL.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 06:33 PM (/Qs0S)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 06:32 PM (mcI77)
This is getting out of hand. No one wants to give Trump the normal respect that every other President is afforded in office.
The media and Democrats--with an assist from the GOPe--really did do a bang-up job of making Trump seem like an Orange Klown who "stole" the presidency.
Sad!
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:35 PM (7uYFy)
See, that's the thing that pisses me off the most.
These assholes can snub the flag and the Anthem while screaming "Unity!!!"
And if Trump calls them out on their stunts, he's being hurtful and divisive.
Fuck these people.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at September 24, 2017 06:36 PM (jWe5r)
-- James Woods
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 06:38 PM (mcI77)
You could probably work up a fantasy league around that.
And then, I want no more mention of this a-tall. Just imposing silence.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 06:40 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:41 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:43 PM (7uYFy)
See, that's the thing that pisses me off the most.
These assholes can snub the flag and the Anthem while screaming "Unity!!!"
And if Trump calls them out on their stunts, he's being hurtful and divisive.
Yes, they act in ways that hurts/disrespects the memory of those who died for this country & currently serve. But hey. Free Speech.
They get called out, their feelings are hurt, and suddenly Free Speech is violence that has harmed their ability to respect the National Anthem. That doesn't even make sense!
Ya know, when that famous chef said he'd put hemlock in any meal he made Trump to poison him...that was fine. Decapitated Trump..."Kathy Griffin is a victim". But hurting a ball player's feelings, OMG!
Insanity Land.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 06:44 PM (bG/5x)
Instead they acted like little girly children concerned with their feelz.
What a bunch of faggots.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 06:46 PM (XFue2)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IrV8QPQAhxo&feature=youtu.be
Posted by: BebeDahl at September 24, 2017 06:47 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 06:48 PM (XFue2)
This is kind of like paying $4.50 for a cup of warmed milk at Starbucks. Eventually, you realize a cup of warmed milk isn't worth $4.50. You don't need to pay a quarterback $150 million over 10 years to enjoy your Sunday afternoon.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at September 24, 2017 06:49 PM (xUc0d)
Get to the circle jerk already!
#I'mWithThem
Posted by: Shep Smith at September 24, 2017 06:50 PM (YXJ+5)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 24, 2017 06:51 PM (tvP0U)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 06:51 PM (XFue2)
It is annoying isn't it? I quit watching the NBA over 20 years ago. Quit the NFL several years ago.
My only regret is that my non-watching has no impact on this latest attack on America by the NFL.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 06:55 PM (3myMJ)
Spent the day off the web after the morning thread.
Just have a sense that today was the day that the nation divided......
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 06:58 PM (EyPfd)
When the three medal winners were standing after accepting their medals and the National Anthem was playing George held up the American Flag, the silver and bronze winners gave the black power salute.
Tell 'em George.
Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 06:59 PM (rKAyM)
Fast polling, that!
Can major league sports stand to lose, say, 20 percent of their fans? Fifteen percent?
I won't pay to see any live act, whether music, comedy, or sports, that I know will include politics and this !Resist! bullshit.
I hope that many feel as I do, but am losing faith in America.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 24, 2017 06:59 PM (d5OWu)
-- James Woods
Annnnddddd....cut! lmao
Posted by: Ceasar at September 24, 2017 06:59 PM (x8dHd)
Go to shop NFL website and register your feelings. Live chat is open
Posted by: Muns at September 24, 2017 07:00 PM (VS0Zd)
That is infuriating. Witchhunts are ok for leftist corporations. But for an entity like the NFL which already has numerous restrictions on personal behavior, on and off the field, discipline for this latest BS is unthinkable. Because first amendment.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 07:01 PM (/qEW2)
Now usually there are NO comments on a WJZ.com article of any type.
Today?
They blowed up the inner webs.
Easily, 100-1 against the players actions.
Personal friends who have been season ticket holders since the day that the Ravens were created are walking away.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:02 PM (EyPfd)
They really think we'll believe anything, don't they?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 07:03 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 07:05 PM (mcI77)
Going searching, searching every which ah itch a way, yea a yea e.
Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 07:05 PM (rKAyM)
The MSM reports sunrise and sunset times...
I double check with the almanac.
Anything beyond that?
I assume they are lying to me.
Including the phases of the moon.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:06 PM (EyPfd)
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (H5knJ)
The dirty little secret is that many (not all) cops hold the rest of the citizenry in contempt. And why not? Their arrogance stems from, in large part, that the citizenry worship them no matter what. If we as the people would occasionally remind the police who they work for (and it's not us working FOR the police), maybe things would change. (And it happens from time to time. I was geeked to hear a SAPD officer got fired for improper relations with a criminal - a prostitute. Dumbass had 20+ years on the job too.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 24, 2017 07:07 PM (0Maat)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at September 24, 2017 07:09 PM (hUqh+)
Harbaugh said, " Check the Constitution".
Ah, another Constitutional scholar
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 07:09 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 06:43 PM (7uYFy)
It may just mean that they're buggering each other
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 07:10 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:11 PM (EyPfd)
Then they go back to their cribs and beat their gf's and dogs.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 07:12 PM (mcI77)
Harbaugh said, " Check the Constitution".
So he celebrates the fact that Trump is free to make those comments. Kinda whiffed on that softball, didn't he?
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 07:14 PM (YXJ+5)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (auHtY)
The manager defended him, and a couple of players supported him.
Send the catcher back down to single A. Bench the others for what little remains of the season.
Message transmitted.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 07:15 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 07:15 PM (mcI77)
Yeah, it really doesn't take much. But it sure impresses some people.
Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at September 24, 2017 07:16 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 24, 2017 07:17 PM (EyPfd)
Fast polling, that!
ABC Poll: "Do you agree with President Trump's Nazi-style threat to execute anyone not saluting the flag?"
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 07:18 PM (YXJ+5)
Inside these lines, we may have our differences, but recognize there's more that unites us.
Inside these lines, it's a game of inches, and there's no such thing as an easy yard when you're fighting to move forward.
Inside these lines, we're not only defined by our victories, but by the way we handle our defeats.
Inside these lines, we can bring out the best in each other,
And live united--
Inside these lines."
So the NFL is going to run the ad again on NBC's "Sunday Night Football" telecast on Sunday.
http://money.cnn.com
/2017/09/24/media/nfl-unity-ad-trump
/index.html
Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 07:19 PM (rKAyM)
Posted by: JoeF.
I think he's a canny individual, who has been high profile for most of his life, so I seriously doubt anything will happen to him (knock on wood). I can think of several people from the previous administration whose demise I would gladly celebrate, if only could get the trials for treason underway.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 07:19 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (auHtY)
Yeah, not a good career move for rookie backup catchers or mediocre backup QBs.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 24, 2017 07:19 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 07:14 PM (YXJ+5)
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Threw it right down the middle. He's a coach not a politician.
Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 07:20 PM (rKAyM)
Posted by: JoeF. They are thoroughly dehumanizing Trump to the point where if --God forbid---anything happens to him, there will be open celebrations in many parts of the country.
Posted by: JoeF.
Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan will be handing out candies to the neighborhood kids.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 07:22 PM (mcI77)
Maybe they can hire lard arse keyboard commandos like Ace to take the field instead. LMFAO
Posted by: Ace is a genius. #sarcasm at September 24, 2017 07:22 PM (+fZuI)
I love football, and sports in general. I love the flag - it is the symbol of all that we hold sacred in this society. The blood, toil, treasure, and adherence to ideals and principles of that this sovereign nation holds at its core. The freedoms that this symbol represent are rights bestowed by god and inert of every citizen.
It is unfortunate that those that wish to use those freedoms to act without as such a small reverence of appreciation for the mere acknowledgement of this shared bond of all citizens - manifested in a simple, yet distinctive flag - is horrifying.
The attitude of those wishing to pay simple respect to this pattern-work of red, white and blue, and to the lyrics of the National Anthem - a song that jogs the memory that the grasp of these freedoms is fleeting if not protected and guarded to ensure they exist, exemplified by a short snapshot of history brought to life by the words of Francis Scott Key. He wrote of a time when a young republic, born to independently defend these rights were threatened by a force that did not. Outnumbered, and with odds against them, the forces that laid claim to fight and die in defense of these liberties not only persevered, they grew stronger from it.
I only ask those that kneel today, with intentions that are not well-thought out, or are driven by defiance of a person or specific institution or political persuasion, that regardless of what they do, those men and women holding up the flag are willingly tasked to guard and defend their freedoms to do so - just as they have and will always continue to do.
>If their justification to kneel in this circumstance is so strong, will we be expecting these same folks to kneel at every National Anthem or Pledge of Allegiance?
>How about will partying on the Fourth of July?
>Wearing the flag on their clothes because it conveniently is fashionable?
>What if we turned this around and replaced the flag and anthem with the NFL Franchises' logo and theme song? Would that be appropriate for one that is in the employment of an organization to shun and castigate the Seattle Seahawk or Buffalo Bill logo that they may now call their boss? They have caused both pain and pleasure at some time or place.
>Will we expect them to continue this for the next twenty years straight? Or is this just a small kerfuffle or spat to prove a point, regardless of how others perceive it as?
>Likewise, I am sure Owners do not like having fans revolt and start a public outcry that certain organizational decisions or that the product on the field that they, as buying customers, feel that they are being underserved or abused. Fans that wear paper bags on their heads is a protest to their enterprise and the principles it upholds as well. Similarly, when citizens want to show the most blatant protest of a country or government policy, it is shown by voting and voicing their objections by electing representatives that they approve of being their voice and leader to administer and enact new policies and laws that best align with their wishes.
>We can turn the TV off and unplug - it will be hard, but I will still watch my Chiefs and wait for us to blow it before the Conference Championship for the umpteenth time (at least Buffalo got to the big game three times before breaking hearts). We will still be stuck with the various taxes, and invisible expenses that the locality around these franchises, their stadiums, and their continuous "upgrades for much needed renovations of skyboxes", "revamping of concession stands", and "hey, let's build a brand new $800 million stadium, because the Joneses in the next town have a really cool new stadium - or else we will threaten you with leaving for another town."
I'm done. I will finish up by saying that the NFL is the upper-echelon of my favorite sport, and because of the greatness of capitalism, it is a commercial enterprise - and is not immune to the PC-virus that threatens all major businesses. With the shooting off of various Owner's Statements, notes and public pronouncements of "we are good, and we oppose those who are bad" - they need to ask themselves if what they say is based in reality, or a way to assuage the PC extortion bracket- and really believe in this PC discourse as its moral gauge of good and bad.
I will still watch, but I will not look at these men of the gridiron as gods, but as flawed, but talented athletic entertainers. They are just data points in a fantasy football game.
Posted by: Carlos Danger at September 24, 2017 07:23 PM (ce4vQ)
I'll maintain the roster, and set the best line-up each week. I'll evaluate any trades that come my way. But find a replacement for me for next year. I'm not paying attention to the NFL again for quite a while.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at September 24, 2017 07:23 PM (MCbul)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:54 PM (auHtY)
The manager defended him, and a couple of players supported him.
Send the catcher back down to single A. Bench the others for what little remains of the season.
Message transmitted.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 07:15 PM (SRKgf)
Idiot move on his part. He could have been involved in an organization as a bullpen catcher until he was 60 making good money playing the greatest game ever.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 07:24 PM (XFue2)
Fast polling, that!
Imagine when they came up with that number. What can we say the number is? How about 99%? No too obvious. Let's go with 2/3 and people might buy that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 07:24 PM (auHtY)
Tweet - insufficient vituperation.
You forgot 1/2 a commie faggot or 1/2 a faggot commie.
5 comments and a loss of First!
Posted by: DaveA at September 24, 2017 07:26 PM (FhXTo)
Inside these lines, we may have our differences, but recognize there's more that unites us.
Inside these lines, it's a game of inches, and there's no such thing as an easy yard when you're fighting to move forward.
Inside these lines, we're not only defined by our victories, but by the way we handle our defeats.
Inside these lines, we can bring out the best in each other,
And live united--
Inside these lines."
the NFL is going to run the ad again on NBC's "Sunday Night Football" telecast on Sunday.
Christ, what shit.
"Inside these lines, we can do whatever the f*** we want, and don't bother demonstrating any shred of decency, which of course we never learned in the ghetto, which in turn is why we formerly lived in the ghetto, and will return there apace. Actually, come to think of it, we don't show any shred of decency outside the lines, either. But pay us anyway."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 07:28 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 07:29 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 07:24 PM (XFue2)
And then the a-hole tried to wrap himself in the flag. Yeah, super patriot. Pack up your shit and go back to riding the bus to games.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 07:30 PM (SRKgf)
"As somebody in the NFL who is one of those "'sons of bitches'," Thomas continued, "Yeah I take it personally. But it's bigger than me. I've got a daughter. She's going to have to live in this world. I'm going to do whatever I've got to do."
It didn't take Thomas long to start choking up after that.
What a pussy. I couldn't imagine guys like Gary Fencik or Doug Plank cry like a bitch like that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 07:31 PM (auHtY)
Bottom line; NFL fans correspond VERY closely to Trump voters.
A glimpse into the obvious? Yeah.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 07:31 PM (v6Osy)
Inside these lines, we may have our differences, but recognize there's more that unites us.
Are they talking about the lines of coke they do?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 07:32 PM (auHtY)
To Goodell, to the NFLPA, to the chairman of the Chiefs and the pres of the Broncos.
(Chiefs got told I won't support any tax initiatives in Jackson County with the effect or intent of supporting the Chiefs or the NFL; Broncos got told I was a fan since the early '70's but no more.)
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 07:33 PM (s5o+q)
Inside these lines, we can disrespect everyone who made these lines possible...
/spit
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 07:33 PM (NgKpN)
Fast polling, that!
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Imagine when they came up with that number. What can we say the number is? How about 99%? No too obvious. Let's go with 2/3 and people might buy that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 07:24 PM (auHtY)
Probably an online poll, after they threw out the "Obvious Racist" responses.
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 07:35 PM (s5o+q)
FRIED CHICKEN.
On Ace of SPADES Headquarters.
I condemn you all.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 07:36 PM (oVJmc)
I was a Chiefs fan back in the Hank Stram/ Len Dawson days.
I still follow them in a very casual way. Tough to give up those old emotional ties.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 07:37 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Ace is a genius. #sarcasm at September 24, 2017 07:37 PM (+fZuI)
Nope the NBA and NFL are doomed to be the "outliers" where the spotlight will be on strong single mothers who beat all the odds because the father was a deadbeat.
Gynocentric NBA and NFL.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 07:39 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 07:39 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 24, 2017 07:40 PM (dKiJG)
I won't pay to see any live act, whether music, comedy, or sports, that I know will include politics and this !Resist! bullshit.
I hope that many feel as I do, but am losing faith in America.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 24, 2017 06:59 PM (d5OWu)
Bingo.... I want my singers to sing... that's what I pay them for...
I want my actors to act...
And I want to be able to enjoy a damn afternoon WITHOUT politics if I watch football...
They don't understand that one reason to watch, is to get away from the real life bullshit... like politics... for awhile...
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 07:41 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: filbert at September 24, 2017 07:42 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 07:42 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Tortillapete at September 24, 2017 07:43 PM (vLyzw)
Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 07:46 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 07:46 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 07:47 PM (v6Osy)
Posted by: ramajama at September 24, 2017 07:47 PM (oAlzZ)
Never happen of course because you're all deeply deeply too pussy. Most of you couldn't even make.your high school team and the jocks were.shoving your.pimplly asses in lockers for years
Posted by: Ace is a genius. #sarcasm at September 24, 2017 07:50 PM (+fZuI)
"Democrat media is about to spend a whole weekend defending millionaire athletes who disrespect our flag. Gosh, I wonder why Trump won."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 24, 2017 07:50 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Astute Dude at September 24, 2017 07:52 PM (wOuYw)
"Would love any of you shut-in lard ass fat virgins to actually walk up to a black linebacker and tell him your opinion."
No problem, just point me to the richest one. Likely would not be as dumb as you and give me half his money by hitting someone.
Besides, I see formal athletes working at tellers frequently. They seem very docile.
Posted by: Ceasar at September 24, 2017 07:55 PM (x8dHd)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 24, 2017 08:03 PM (ggtda)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 08:20 PM (2wRtc)
***
racist stereotypes for $100, alex.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 08:20 PM (XhN8Z)
***
so much butthurts, again, about potus tweets, as if THIS TIME it will finally work against him.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 08:21 PM (XhN8Z)
And you know what, maybe trump should "walk up to a black linebacker and tell him [his] opinion" and see if the guy's tough enough to get shot by the secret service. Oh, that's unfair? I dunno, sounds kinda cowardly for the lefty woke BLM linebacker to all of the sudden get cold feet if he can't win a fight.
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 24, 2017 08:26 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: Liz at September 24, 2017 08:30 PM (lz2pW)
Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2017 08:31 PM (11H2y)
I am so done with the nfl players. I have watched my last 'professional' game as of today.
Those ass-hats just dont know that they have been made free by better men than they will ever be.
Posted by: Eric The OC tanker at September 24, 2017 08:55 PM (P8UvY)
==
Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 08:20 PM (2wRtc)
What Mortimer said.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 09:18 PM (SRKgf)
First, I insist he solve a calculus problem before we get to the lowest common denominator of human interaction.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 24, 2017 09:19 PM (SRKgf)
You NEVER see people disrespecting the flag/anthem at rodeos, MMA bouts or NASCAR. Gotta git with the program fellas! RLTW and keep up the good fight.
Posted by: Lou at September 24, 2017 09:39 PM (OSr3e)
So, how will the NFL s tv contracts fare next year if the tv game viewership drops by 10%, 20%, 30% this yeat?
Posted by: Martell at September 25, 2017 12:00 AM (UMian)
These wankers? We should ship all of them to Liberia with a hockey stick up their ass. Oh, and break it off as we throw them into the cargo hold.
There are no words.
I loved the Packers for years. Today they were on, getting beat, and i had the TV on in the background ... but didn't even watch the plays. I hate, hate, hate the racist players for what they're doing to our game, for their racism, their gobsmacking ingratitude, and their fukking LIES.
Posted by: Beverly at September 25, 2017 02:40 AM (dwfwC)
At EVERY available opportunity we need to point out the fact that these athlete-SHOWMEN get paid HUGE salaries and get countless sexual favors to disrespect our nation's flag and the distinguished heritage of LIBERTY which it proudly represents.
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. - Point it out.
My own experience is as follows: even those sad liberals who favor the sentiment get strangely quiet when I point out that most of those "taking a knee" had in the past 72 hours gotten a degenerate sloppy blowjob from groupie-slut woman who was not his wife.
...Yeah, that shuts em' alright.
PS: How may of these mongoloids will refuse to cash a paycheck with an American flag emblazoned on it?
Do we really think they'll "take a knee" at the moment they endorse it or cash it!
Fuckin' bastards.
Posted by: Cold Civil War at September 25, 2017 03:31 AM (Z2PYk)
Oh what, they drop to a knee because they're too good for the American flag?
Is that it?
These athlete-showmen fuckers are on par with the degenerate groupies who they make get on their knees to sexually service them in violation of their marriage vows.
Bunch of hypocritical primadonnas.
Posted by: Cold Civil War at September 25, 2017 03:38 AM (Z2PYk)
Posted by: Bob D at September 25, 2017 07:55 AM (cd43s)
Posted by: Hangtown Bob at September 25, 2017 09:12 AM (uiIpX)
Know what else men do. They would not indulge in a point protest.
Men would try make sure that children did not reject education for themselves and prevent other children who wanted an education from getting one.
Men would make sure that children did not embrace a thug culture, but endeavored to become productive citizens.
Men would try to be husbands to their wives and fathers to their children.
Apostle Paul proclaimed himself a slave of Christ. You kneel before the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings.
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