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Is This Something? A School Full Of Special Snowflakes Who Actually Aren't Snowflakes And Are Pushing Back?

It's not much of a pushback, but any time a high school humor video starts out with a shot at Michelle Obama and her food Nazis it's worth noticing. And this is a school in a wealthy liberal bastion in the New York City metropolitan area!

This came to my attention barely a month after I had a long conversation with a young relation who, when asked whether he believed that democracy was preferable to all other forms of government, was completely ambivalent. Yes, I was gobsmacked. He is an earnest, intelligent young man who has been completed subsumed into the progressive ideal of the expert, sort of like Hillary! His particular God is AGW, and shouldn't we trust the experts to decide what is best? After all, they are "SCIENTISTSTM. Of course he counts himself among the ranks of those experts....And that fascinates me, because the ideal in his world is the benevolent dictator and his minions (experts). It simply never occurred to him that he could be on the wrong end of the coercion that is axiomatically inherent in an authoritarian government.

Could this video, as gently critical as it is, be reflective of at least some of the youth now emerging into the real world? When I was young I and my friends chafed at the restrictions placed upon us by society. What an odd world we live in today that the most vocal of our youth yearn for more restrictions: on speech, relationships, the flags we fly, the statues we have in our squares...

Posted by: CBD at 12:10 PM




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1 Hello?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:11 PM (l4l/z)

2 Anybody home?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:11 PM (l4l/z)

3 I just heard some NFL guy on Fox essentially say f--- the fans, these players have a right to protest for social justice (while making 100x what the average fan makes). He said if fans don't like it , they can stay home or not watch. I will do both!

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:14 PM (l4l/z)

4 No Frist 4 me.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:14 PM (v6Osy)

5 I guess there is just me here. The bashing of the prez over this is yuge. As always.

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:16 PM (l4l/z)

6
* Takes a knee in thread *

Posted by: SJW Warrior!! at September 24, 2017 12:16 PM (EgwCt)

7 CBD, about your young relation: Have you tried to expose him to Hayek's points on rule by experts? Not to convert him, necessarily, but just to challenge his thinking?

The problem I have in even fairly amiable arguments with liberals these days isn't so much that they're well aware of the counterargument and they reject it; it's that they aren't really aware that there IS another side - just benighted or malicious people stubbornly refusing to do what we all agree is right.

This is why, though I try not to hate, I find it hard not to hate former President Obama. He really encouraged this view of the world.

Posted by: JPS at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (9ziuC)

8 I just heard some NFL guy on Fox essentially say f--- the fans, these
players have a right to protest for social justice (while making 100x
what the average fan makes). He said if fans don't like it , they can
stay home or not watch. I will do both!
---

Yes. Please more of this.

Tell the fans to stay home.

Tell the fans NOT to watch.

Then see what your bottom line looks like.

See what kind of rates you can charge your advertisers.

See what kind of payroll you have available for your players.

Let them learn that actions have consequences.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (aT+Bx)

9 I abandon I hope for kids of the elite. Not for other kids, though... yet.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (v6Osy)

10 Smarter than the entire NFL.

But then, so is a box of socks.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 24, 2017 12:20 PM (6fmef)

11 I remember being anti-NFL on this blog several years ago, back when we had the elbows threads.
I still have the scorch marks on my a**.

LOL

Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 12:20 PM (w7KSn)

12 "...it's that they aren't really aware that there IS
another side..."

Posted by: JPS at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (9ziuC)

Bingo!

That is exactly it. He has been exposed to nothing but the progressive cant. The echo chamber is perfect.

I might just beat the snot out of him at Thanksgiving, and then ask him how he likes totalitarianism now?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 12:20 PM (wYseH)

13 8 Sheboom

I know that the Ford Motor Co. & Pepsi Cola have always tried to move product by telling prospective buyers to "FUCK OFF!", right?

Don't they teach that in biz school marketing classes?

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:21 PM (v6Osy)

14 HG Wells had a whole story about such a utopia being ruled by Men of Science!

I'll take Professor Membrane.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 12:21 PM (Ktewm)

15 back when we had the elbows threads.


Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 12:20 PM (w7KSn)

Notice who isn't doing an elbows thread anymore?

[And I LIKE elbows!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 12:21 PM (wYseH)

16 The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:22 PM (l4l/z)

17 What was the elbows thread?

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:22 PM (v6Osy)

18 It's a thing. I am in an extremely liberal area, and MANY of my kids HS friends (not from traditionally conservative homes) are incredibly skeptical, jaded and push back hard on the SJW silliness. They are very conservative (rebellion in this age of anything goes??).
Last year there was one teacher who I am sure went home in tears most nights because she was utterly failing to "teach" them that colonialism/misogyny/sexism, etc was all evilawfulterriblehorrible. They see it all as a joke, and are carving their way. Oh, they believe in treating all people as equals and all those good truly liberal values, but they simply refuse to put up with the stupidity. There is hope :-)

Posted by: Lyana at September 24, 2017 12:22 PM (/IvZS)

19 I think everyone in this NFL mess is just letting their hatred of Trump get ahead of rational thought. Even the ones who don't hate Trump (some owners like Kraft) are letting their fear of --can we just say what it is?--their black players override their natural tendencies to cater to the wishes of their fans.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (7uYFy)

20 16 Anna

Wow. Darwin Award winner, right there!

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:24 PM (v6Osy)

21 Advertisers will start feeling the pain right away.

Posted by: fu52 at September 24, 2017 12:24 PM (HpUpB)

22 He said folks might like the flag and the anthem, but they don't like the prez messing with "free speech." I assume he meant liberal speech.

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:25 PM (l4l/z)

23 I can understand HS kids being firmly up on the AGW scam. they have been indoctrinated on that since grammar school. When my daughter was in the 6th grad I took a look at her geography book. It was chock full of econazi green propaganda and anti-nuke hate. I sat down and explained to her why all of this was a pack of lies and to tell her teacher I said so.



When she told her teacher what I said her teacher asked if I worked out at the Nuke Plant and she told her yes. The teacher didn't say anything and walked off back to her desk.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:25 PM (mpXpK)

24 Is it mean to laugh at this?

Dog Calmly Playing With Kids After Cop Shoots Himself Trying To Kill it

https://youtu.be/HIvEzY_eR7g

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 24, 2017 12:25 PM (hMwEB)

25
video -
Too long; couldn't wait for the punch line.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 12:25 PM (m9X4Y)

26 The anthem protests seem to be the NFL equivalent of blocking the freeway

Posted by: Phildirt at September 24, 2017 12:26 PM (dQOwJ)

27 Do what you can to keep your money away from the NFL. Look for the logo, pick another brand of chips, shoes, etc. Remove their hooks from your dough. Same with NASCAR.
Oh, the Concussion Coverup Blamefest is nigh.

Posted by: ro-man at September 24, 2017 12:26 PM (RuIsu)

28
Considering the NFL has (or had) members that are murderers, domestic abusers, drug abusers, weapon offenders, assaulters, and animal abusers...

I'm not so certain Trump didn't pull his punches when he referred to the kneelers as ''son's of bitches''. Pretty tame in comparison to some of those thugs.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (EgwCt)

29 Friends daughter goes to Middlebury ($65k/yr). Spoke w/ her this Summer. She had no idea Bernie's wife had bankrupt Burlington College. She lives in a SJW bubble.

Posted by: Uncle Ant at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (XCWds)

30 My kids listen to me talk so much... I'm afraid they'll go TOO far right.

Don't want that! Bernadine Dohrn & all of her ilk came from LIBERAL homes, not radical ones. They just kicked it up a notch.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (v6Osy)

31 Well, I hope there's POT in those BROWNIES!!!

Posted by: Scolding Lib Food Nazi at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (oVJmc)

32 18 . It's a thing due to a growing voice of YOUNG antiSJW on YouTube and Twitter. Teacher's spiel is no longer kewl.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (7l5V0)

33 I think everyone in this NFL mess is just letting their hatred of Trump get ahead of rational thought.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (7uYFy)
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I'm sitting in the same room as my son, and just a few minutes ago he clicked on Daily Mail and saw the picture of all the NFL players kneeling today. He said, wow, this is now purely political against Trump. Way to go, NFL.

Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2017 12:30 PM (UoSKV)

34 The entire Steelers team will remain in their locker room during the anthem today.

Next thing, pull the air force/navy flyovers.
Color guards.

Give them nothing. Not money, not respect.
Certainly not your precious time on this earth.

Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 12:30 PM (w7KSn)

35 I might just beat the snot out of him at Thanksgiving, and then ask him how he likes totalitarianism now?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 12:20 PM (wYseH)
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Holidays at your house sound fun.

Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2017 12:31 PM (UoSKV)

36 Notice who isn't doing an elbows thread anymore?

[And I LIKE elbows!]


It's too bad too. I miss elbows...even the pointy ones.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 12:31 PM (tRaq7)

37 27 . What did NASCAR do?

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 12:31 PM (7l5V0)

38 7
CBD, about your young relation: Have you tried to expose him to Hayek's
points on rule by experts? Not to convert him, necessarily, but just to
challenge his thinking?



The problem I have in even fairly amiable arguments with liberals
these days isn't so much that they're well aware of the counterargument
and they reject it; it's that they aren't really aware that there IS
another side - just benighted or malicious people stubbornly refusing to
do what we all agree is right.



This is why, though I try not to hate, I find it hard not to hate
former President Obama. He really encouraged this view of the world.

Posted by: JPS at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (9ziuC)

Also Bastiat's treatise on The Law is available on Gutenberg for free.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

39 I'm sitting in the same room as my son, and just a few minutes ago he clicked on Daily Mail and saw the picture of all the NFL players kneeling today. He said, wow, this is now purely political against Trump. Way to go, NFL.

Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2017 12:30 PM (UoSKV)

Exactly. It's the National Anthem, not the Trump Anthem.
The anthem and the flag and the Constitution are operational no matter who sits in the White House.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:32 PM (7uYFy)

40 The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.

Posted by: AnnaS


ESPN's revenue comes from viewership, though. The players and owners may be buffered against a downturn for a few years, but if ESPN loses subscribers and has to reduce rates for advertisers, they will feel a downturn very quickly.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 12:32 PM (/qEW2)

41 Notice who isn't doing an elbows thread anymore?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
________

Is it something generally objectionable about the elbows themselves or the league that these pointy joints are affiliated with?

(Because I can toss up some links to pictured Spartak girls.)

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 12:33 PM (zkGZ8)

42 32 18 . It's a thing due to a growing voice of YOUNG antiSJW on YouTube and Twitter. Teacher's spiel is no longer kewl.
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (7l5V0)

That is definitely a significant part of it, but I think part of it is that they are so advertised to from birth that there seems to be some blow back; they tend not to believe anything anybody tells them - my youngest is probably more well read than I am. She will research both sides of everything. And the cognitive dissonance just doesn't add up for them.

Posted by: Lyana at September 24, 2017 12:33 PM (/IvZS)

43 Discourage hooliganism, join the Komsomol!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 12:34 PM (5VlCp)

44 The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.
Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:22 PM (l4l/z)


Four years, eh? Ok, that's fine. In four years, wait until the munies start suing the stupid owners for breach of contract, when they can't collect their taxes on the "turn down."

Ask the tobacco companies what it's like to have a bunch of states and cities taking them to court.

Guvment likes its crack. Don't get between a guvment entity and its supply source.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2017 12:34 PM (Pz4pT)

45 Doesn't the NFL even exert control over players' behavior off the field? I seem to recall a player getting some massive fine simply because he was wearing some brand of clothing or other that he wasn't supposed to be sponsoring. Something ridiculous like that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 12:35 PM (/qEW2)

46 40
The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and
contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.



Posted by: AnnaS



ESPN's revenue comes from viewership, though. The players and owners
may be buffered against a downturn for a few years, but if ESPN loses
subscribers and has to reduce rates for advertisers, they will feel a
downturn very quickly.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 12:32 PM (/qEW2)

I posted a link two days ago to an article that said they stood to loose $200M in ad revenue if it continued to drop the way it is doing now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:35 PM (mpXpK)

47 The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.

A) I'll wait.

B) The league is already having to make good on rebates because they don't deliver the audience to advertisers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 12:36 PM (oVJmc)

48 Glad we have a new thread to drain off the non-book stuff.

Usually 11 AM MST is when the Texans play, but today I guess I'm going to church instead. Yeah, I know. Pray for me, Horde, that I don't get eaten by demons on my way there like Alhazred

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 12:36 PM (6FqZa)

49 I decided to adopt college football and root for one of the local teams here that's currently kicking ass.

The NFL can all go eat a bag of ebola infested dicks.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at September 24, 2017 12:36 PM (+dsLj)

50 Had enough of the girly men in the NFL, MLB, and NBA?

Posted by: NHL at September 24, 2017 12:37 PM (cQdY5)

51 I'm glad you're going to church, boulder terlit hobo. The roof won't blow off, I promise.

Good for you.

Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2017 12:37 PM (UoSKV)

52 I know that the Ford Motor Co. Pepsi Cola have always tried to
move product by telling prospective buyers to "FUCK OFF!", right?



Don't they teach that in biz school marketing classes?
----

Yeah, this stuff is pretty interesting.

Proles didn't elect Hillary? Scream louder at them, and tell them 24/7 how stupid they are.

Proles don't like players disrespecting the flag? Scream at them 24/7 and tell them how stupid they are.

Right now, yelling and insults, potentially combined with violent rioting, seem to be the only pages in the playbook.

At this point, I want the NFL to die. I want their advertisers to be hurt. A lot.

Take the hit to your bottom line. Explain that your SJW stance is the most important thing at your shareholders meetings.

Actions have consequences bitchez.


Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 12:37 PM (aT+Bx)

53 Ford Motor Co. Pepsi Cola have always tried to move product by telling prospective buyers to "FUCK OFF!"

Look here: if Ford is making its payroll by collecting government grants for producing electric cars to meet a treaty, and no one has to actually buy these? Then they can tell their buyers to fuck off.

If Pepsi is canning pure fruit water to meet a UN quota, ditto.

NFL owners don't have to worry about losing their stadiums. The taxpayers are on the hook for that stuff. They get their money from TV contracts. They literally do not have to care about fan tickets, or fans watching, for years.
They're not in the business you think they're in. It's a Marshall McLuhan thing.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 12:37 PM (H5rtT)

54 ESPN's revenue comes from viewership, though.

They actually get a lot of money from bundled cable subscriptions, even from people who don't watch.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 12:37 PM (oVJmc)

55 Next thing, pull the air force/navy flyovers.
Color guards.

Give them nothing. Not money, not respect.
Certainly not your precious time on this earth.
Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 12:30 PM (w7KSn)


There was a story a couple years ago, the military PAYS the NFL to support the troops! Not advertising dollars for ads that play during games, but pays them to wear camo uniforms and let military personnel on the field and whatnot.

So yeah...

Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2017 12:37 PM (Pz4pT)

56 ESPN's ratings are already way down and they're shedding subscribers at a rapid rate.

I noted this the other day: head to the Goolag Play Store and look up the ESPN app, then read the comments. The recent ones are pretty critical because of their rabid leftard talking heads.
People are tired of their BS. Giving a "courage award" to Bruce Jenner for being mentally ill was where most of it started.

ESPN is ignoring the First Rule of Holes good and hard.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 12:37 PM (tRaq7)

57
34 The entire Steelers team will remain in their locker room during the anthem today.

Next thing, pull the air force/navy flyovers.
Color guards.

Give them nothing. Not money, not respect.
Certainly not your precious time on this earth.
-----------
No more taxpayer funded stadiums, no more fan gear, no more eyeballs.

Posted by: Uncle Si at September 24, 2017 12:38 PM (ZLmoR)

58 All right, for all you elbowphiles --

Mind you, they're not football. They're not even American. But in the interests of shared values that transcend borders and in the realization that the Russians love their children too, here's a pic from the KHL support squad in Omsk:

http://tinyurl.com/ya33ghff

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 12:38 PM (zkGZ8)

59
Considering the NFL has (or had) members that are murderers, domestic abusers, drug abusers, weapon offenders, assaulters, and animal abusers...

...rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and
few Methodists.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 12:39 PM (IqV8l)

60 The entire Steelers team will remain in their locker room during the anthem today.

ONCE I BEGIN GIVING THEM MY EXPLANATIONS, THEY'LL BE BREAKING DOWN THE DOORS TRYING TO GET AWAY.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 24, 2017 12:39 PM (/qEW2)

61 Bloody hell. Finally, a ray of hope from the current HS generation.

Posted by: Captain Ned at September 24, 2017 12:39 PM (8LLKm)

62 Cracks often start small but then grow larger

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 12:39 PM (ghofu)

63 I support the right of the players to kneel. Wanna kneel? Fine it's your choice and not against NFL policy BUT don't tell people how to react. Actions have consequences.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 12:39 PM (IYHxL)

64 Look here: if Ford is making its payroll by collecting government grants
for producing electric cars to meet a treaty, and no one has to
actually buy these? Then they can tell their buyers to fuck off.
---

We also have really really huge government fleet contracts!

Eff you proles!

Posted by: Ford at September 24, 2017 12:40 PM (aT+Bx)

65 Speaking of restrictions, Anthem in CA is upping its insurance rates by 35%. Anthem is my carrier. Thanks, John effin McAhole!

Posted by: keena at September 24, 2017 12:40 PM (RiTnx)

66 And yeah. I posted these links on the EMT, but more Omsk pics, ICYMI:

http://tinyurl.com/y9bntcut

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 12:41 PM (zkGZ8)

67

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Posted by: The Goolag at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (leCj4)

68 The NFL should just go back to having the team stay in the locker room until after the anthem.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (IYHxL)

69 Lol someone on Fox said the fans don't want the political at a football game. Who started this? Who is ramping it up?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (l4l/z)

70 No.

Posted by: WVinMN at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (TPf32)

71 I support the right of the players to kneel.

I support the right of the employers to bench and fire those guys, too.

NFL viewer ratings are down even more than last year, and they were low in 2016. I think sports viewing is mostly an older people kind of thing anyway, I wonder how many younger people even care if games are on television to begin with.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-ratings-troubles-could-cost-tv-network-partners-big-time-2017-9

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (39g3+)

72 65
Speaking of restrictions, Anthem in CA is upping its insurance rates by 35%. Anthem is my carrier. Thanks, John effin McAhole!

Posted by: keena at September 24, 2017 12:40 PM (RiTnx)

My rates for AARP/United Healthcare are going 22% next year just for Supplement F and the government charges for Part B are also going up but they don't say how much.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (mpXpK)

73
Congratulations, CBD! I was charmed by the kids and had a good laugh. Thank you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (MIKMs)

74 It's useful to note that this ambivalence about Democracy goes back to it's earliest days - Socrates was notably scornful of democracies, as was his most famous protege, Plato, who was the first to formally propose that "experts" should be allowed to govern the rest of us, for our own good, of course.

There is good reason to believe that Socrates fully supported the 13 month rule of the "30 Tyrants" who took power in Athens at the close of the Pelopenesian War, especially since Critias, the leader of the 30, was one of Socrate's star pupils. As the wiki stub says, "though brief, the reign of the 30 resulted in the killing (execution) of 5% of Athens citizens, the confiscation of citizens property, and the exile of other democratic supporters."

That's the same old system that all of the "expert" fetishists today would love to see come back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 12:43 PM (V2Yro)

75 This is the same league that hates Tim Tebow with a passion.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 12:44 PM (tRaq7)

76 Elbows Thread
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/359197.php#359197

( remember DO NOT COMMENT!)

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 12:44 PM (ghofu)

77 I was going to protest, but I took an arrow to the knee.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 24, 2017 12:44 PM (gC2IV)

78 Aren't professional sports obsolete? Can't the actual contests be replaced by computer-generated fantasy games?

#FutureIsFantasy

Posted by: RioBravo at September 24, 2017 12:44 PM (giT7q)

79 @59 You said ROETHLISBERGER TWICE.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 12:44 PM (H5rtT)

80 One more for today's Dinamo-Avangard game:

https://photo.khl.ru/items/id1470017

(I'll maybe link some HC Spartak girls tomorrow.)

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 12:45 PM (zkGZ8)

81 Video was a little silly TBH

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 24, 2017 12:45 PM (z2W2E)

82 'The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.'

They are assuming, however, that all the fans will just come flocking back and the gravy train will be back on track.

That may not be a wise assumption to make.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 12:45 PM (ALDN3)

83 Being benched and fired for something that I view as disrespectful is an overreaction imo. Then again the left made the new rules which we begged them not to.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 12:45 PM (IYHxL)

84 We also have really really huge government fleet contracts!

Eff you proles!
Posted by: Ford
----------
Whew! Boy you're right about that. If it weren't for fleet sales to governments, and subsidies, why the Volt would never even have made it out of R&D.

Posted by: GM at September 24, 2017 12:46 PM (leCj4)

85 Whew! Boy you're right about that. If it weren't for
fleet sales to governments, and subsidies, why the Volt would never
even have made it out of RD.


Posted by: GM at September 24, 2017 12:46 PM
---

Amen to that brother!

Posted by: Tesla Motors at September 24, 2017 12:47 PM (aT+Bx)

86 'the most vocal of our youth'

Those are the key words. The shrill loudmouth Left always wants to convince you that their view is widely shared and virtually monolithic.

Even among the kids, it ain't so.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 12:47 PM (ALDN3)

87 Socrates was notably scornful of democracies, as was his most famous protege, Plato, who was the first to formally propose that "experts" should be allowed to govern the rest of us, for our own good, of course.

Yeah, that's the left's wet dream: a dictatorship (benevolent, of course) with them in charge, with everyone else slaving away to produce what they want and need to maintain their lifestyles. They want young people educated only enough to be obedient and malleable, and to pick particularly useful members out to be a part of the ruling class.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:47 PM (39g3+)

88 addendum to Socrates: Plato was the one who invented the wonderfully dramatic story about Socrates being forced to take hemlock because he opposed the Athenians views on morality. No actual records of the event except for Plato's telling of the story exist, and it's extremely likely that Socrates was forced to take hemlock shortly after the fall of the 30 tyrants due to his very close association with Critias, the leader of the tryanny.

Another famous story that "everyone knows" that is probably just 2500 year old propaganda.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 12:47 PM (V2Yro)

89
NFL owners don't have to worry about losing their stadiums. The taxpayers are on the hook for that stuff.

I believe that stadium taxes usually pass on promises of job creation and community pride.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 12:47 PM (IqV8l)

90 Willowed from the last thread:

313 Activism Month?

How about just one day? It was good enough when Landriu guided the people to only have one day of madness. Look how well it all turned out.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (Ktewm)

The players need space to destroy.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 12:47 PM (ANIFC)

91 We listen to sports talk afternoons durinb the week here, Mike Missanelli ( 97.5 the Fanatic) is a lawyer by trade but has been on radio for like 20 years and have listened to him all this time. He is a Leftist and had a campaign to get rid of Tim Tebow and virtually stated he shoulc not in any way shape or form work in the NFL.

Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 12:48 PM (ghofu)

92 84 Whew! Boy you're right about that. If it weren't for
fleet sales to governments, and subsidies, why the Volt would never
even have made it out of RD.

Posted by: GM at September 24, 2017 12:46 PM (leCj4)

Trust me, major companies are not breaking their ass leasing or buying Volts. My old company used to buy stripped down Chrysler compacts and they even paid EXTRA to get them w/o a radio.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:48 PM (mpXpK)

93 The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.

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The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg teaches us that it is better to grab what you can now rather than to plan for the future.

- Hillary Explains Children's Stories

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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 12:48 PM (Nwg0u)

94 Any cookie with a raisin in it is poison. Cast them out, for they are vessels of sin, doom, and woe.

Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2017 12:49 PM (z74gh)

95 Being benched and fired for something that I view as disrespectful is an overreaction imo. Then again the left made the new rules which we begged them not to.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 12:45 PM (IYHxL)


What do you think about 'morals clauses' for people like teachers? An over reaction?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 12:49 PM (EgwCt)

96 'The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.'

That's not true, of course. As the IBD article I linked notes, if they keep seeing ratings plunge, they will owe advertisers money back. Hundreds of millions of dollars.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:49 PM (39g3+)

97 I mentioned this in the book thread I will repeat it here where it can be ignored by an entirely different group.
I think the performance of the national anthem(s) is part of the atmosphere in the NHL--particularly in the playoffs.
The players lined up along their respective blue lines, facing; the tension building, building and the explosion of noise as the music fades.
I remember an old time member of the Chicago Black Hawks saluting during the anthem. I can't remember why, by I remember that.

Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 12:49 PM (nBr1j)

98 I all for these guys having free speech. ON THEIR OWN TIME, on their own property, Facebook pages, Twitters, etc.

This is about using their employer's forum to air their own grievances.

So Tomlin is gonna keep them ALL hiding in the locker room? What about the players that DO want to stand for the anthem/flag? Can they tell him to piss off? Does their free speech count?

What does Villaneuva think about this?
Since this all started because Kaperdick attributed an American flag to police brutality, why don't the players go over to the on duty police officers at Heinz Field providing security and spit on them? Why insult the flag, which is so much more than just about police?

So Big Ben is a big supporter of the police, and pays for K9s for various departments. What does he think about this? Since we're all about free speech, is he allowed to say what he thinks on the field? How much ya wanna bet this is his final season?

Can players now tell the NFL to piss off about wearing hot pink all of October? Is that how this "free speech on your employers time"thing works?"

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (nWmg2)

99 SSS I haven't given it much thought My snap judgement is nobody compelled you to sign that contract if you don't like it don't sign it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (IYHxL)

100 Just heard a super-low jet fly by.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (ANIFC)

101 Another person on Fox said the stadiums can be more empty and does not matter. It's the viewership stupid.

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (l4l/z)

102 Perhaps the government of the United States could assert copyright ownership of its national anthem.

And then charge the Professional Gamblers Syndicate there ten thousand, or a million, every time they defile the nation's honor by playing it at a ball game. You come and ask us.

At the turn of the last century, the top spectator sports were swimming and rowing meets, and rifle matches. Ball games were for "idlers."

The ownership of these big leagues have been in good with the Senate and the Mafia for so long, they've forgotten what a PR campaign had to be run to make their betting and fixing hobby acceptable to church folk.

Maybe they need to have their noses rubbed in their shit real hard, when they do it on the carpet like that.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (H5rtT)

103 Being benched and fired for something that I view as disrespectful is an overreaction imo.

I would argue that its a perfectly reasonable reaction for an employer to punish employees damaging their business and sales. In fact, they're stupid not to.

Its no different than having a clerk at the cash register be obnoxious and hateful toward the customers. It hurts your business and you punish them for doing so.

Whether its an overreaction or not, the employers are just as much in their rights to do so as the employees are to give stupid, meaningless political gestures.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (39g3+)

104 Is anyone here good at video editing? Why not make a montage of kneeling players, title it "The Power of the National Anthem", and do a voiceover extolling "Look at how the National Anthem brings these mighty men TO THEIR KNEES!" and "By the power of the Anthem, you - MUST - KNEEEEL!!"

Push it harder than Honeybadger, so the players can hear laughing in the stadium when the drop to a knee.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - Public nuisance at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (G8B7r)

105 Our culture has been slowly poisoned for years. Either we are going to overcome it, or we are going to succumb and cease to be America.

The next few years will be dispositive.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 12:52 PM (ALDN3)

106 If you're too weak to stand, you're too weak to play.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 12:52 PM (oVJmc)

107 Any cookie with a raisin in it is poison. Cast them out, for they are vessels of sin, doom, and woe.
Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2017 12:49 PM
~~~~~

Agreed! They always looked like dead roaches to me, hence I would never eat a cookie with them in it. Growing up in NYC will do that to you.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM (HiDrR)

108 'its a perfectly reasonable reaction for an employer to punish employees damaging their business and sales.'

No, no--that would be divisive.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM (ALDN3)

109 Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 12:49 PM (nBr1j)



I was in Sanford Stadium last night at UGA watching my team get its ass handed over on a platter...but, one thing about the SEC: the nation, the flag, and the anthem are honored. 90,000+ people last night standing with their hands over their hearts singing along with the anthem in harmony.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM (yzxic)

110 It may be apocryphal, but it's attributed to Churchill that democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM (GsAUU)

111 Agreed! They always looked like dead roaches to me, hence I would never eat a cookie with them in it. Growing up in NYC will do that to you.
Posted by: IrishEi

How do you feel about rye with caraway seed in it?

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM (8ikIW)

112 The talk that boycotts won't hurt the NFL is a standard "vote suppression" tactic.

Fox is on the side of insulting America, which is now NFL policy.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM (3myMJ)

113 Another person on Fox said the stadiums can be more empty and does not matter. It's the viewership stupid.

Ah. Sure.

Diminishing enthusiasm is a boffo strategy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 12:54 PM (oVJmc)

114 Did he just take the raisins?

Why would he take a box of raisins?

Posted by: george costanza at September 24, 2017 12:54 PM (ALDN3)

115 Christopher, that makes sense too. The NFL could make this really easy, either mandate they stand or go back to the old rules of having the teams stay inside until after the anthem.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 12:54 PM (IYHxL)

116 "100 Just heard a super-low jet fly by."

You sure it wasn't one of Rocket Man's toys?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 12:54 PM (V2Yro)

117 Video was a little silly TBH

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands
________

Agreed. That said, I found it entertaining.

Is it something? Not for the reason CBD suggested. I think it's something that a bunch of high-school kids made a 5-minute video that's all-around better than most offerings from the entertainment guild over the past several years.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 12:54 PM (zkGZ8)

118 Test

Posted by: Thursby at September 24, 2017 12:54 PM (WVn9a)

119 The customer is always right told to go fvck himself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 12:55 PM (Nwg0u)

120 NFL for DECADES has feared their games would become a studio show-- i.e., no live audience. That was the reason for the blackout rule.

That is the sum of all their fears, in fact.

They still care VERY VERY MUCH INDEED about putting butts in their $172/game seats!

Trust me.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:55 PM (v6Osy)

121 How do you feel about rye with caraway seed in it?
Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM
~~~~~

That's okay in my book. Never had a problem with ants.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 12:55 PM (HiDrR)

122 Its not enough to boycott the games, though. Jerseys, ats, merchandising, etc. All that earns them money too -- probably more than the games. And the Superbowl is the biggest show on television every year, eclipsing all other ratings events by several times. Its a gigantic money maker for football.

That whole "well I'll watch just the Superbowl" thing doesn't really hurt the NFL. Individual games don't earn them nearly even close to as much in advertising revenues.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:55 PM (39g3+)

123 When I was a kid someone told me Tapioca pudding was made out of fish eyes, and I could never eat it after that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 12:56 PM (V2Yro)

124 Another person on Fox said the stadiums can be more empty and does not matter. It's the viewership stupid.

Ratings are down what, 14% over last year?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 12:56 PM (oVJmc)

125 That's okay in my book. Never had a problem with ants.
Posted by: IrishEi

My dad always called it rye with mouse turds.

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 12:56 PM (8ikIW)

126 110 logprof

Don't think that's apocryphal. Can't prove it, though. Lazy.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:56 PM (v6Osy)

127
While Obama was president it was suddenly OK to stand for the anthem and the flag and to be "proud" of your country because those things--to many people in general and to the overwhelming majority of blacks--became embodied in the person of Obama.
Now that Trump is president, there is no way they are going to transfer that loyalty to him. That's what this is about. It never occurs to them that the anthem and the flag are bigger than Obama or Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (7uYFy)

128 Empty seats don't make a very watchable TV broadcast.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (oVJmc)

129 109 I was in Sanford Stadium last night at UGA watching
my team get its ass handed over on a platter...but, one thing about the
SEC: the nation, the flag, and the anthem are honored. 90,000+ people
last night standing with their hands over their hearts singing along
with the anthem in harmony.


Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 12:53 PM (yzxic)

And I thought GA was your team???

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (mpXpK)

130
All the Eagles players are lock-armed. No kneelers that I see. Giant flag on field, flyover scheduled.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (EgwCt)

131 Brady, Kraft, and J.J. all standing.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (GsAUU)

132 What an odd world we live in today that the most vocal of our youth
yearn for more restrictions: on speech, relationships, the flags we fly,
the statues we have in our squares...








Posted by: CBD at 12:10 PM


They're not yearning for restrictions on themselves; they mean to be the ones calling the shots and meting out punishment. Leftism always brings punishment to the party, never forget that.

Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (gKOMX)

133 Oh, how cute. They're all linking arms.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (gC2IV)

134 My dad always called it rye with mouse turds.
Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 12:56 PM
~~~~~

Hmmmm. We did have the occasional mouse...

Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (HiDrR)

135 Those are the key words. The shrill loudmouth Left always wants to convince you that their view is widely shared and virtually monolithic.


"Hide your numbers to make it appear as though they're more than they are."

Debil worshipper Saul Alinsky.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (tRaq7)

136 @88 It's not propaganda, it's drama. There was a Socrates, but he was a dick and nothing like Plato's suave character. Plato was not seen in his own time as a philosopher, but as a dramatizer of ideas. He wrote drawing-room comedies full of ideas and witticisms. In the school of GB Shaw and Noel Coward.

And certainly not one whit gheyer.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 12:58 PM (H5rtT)

137 They still care VERY VERY MUCH INDEED about putting butts in their $172/game seats!

And that's super easy to boycott. Far more easy than TV games. Its expensive to go to a game, and a hassle. Its a large chunk of the day missing because of the delightful traffic and just getting to the seat and the car. And who wants to pay $15 bucks for a cheap cheeseburger? Some stadiums have even banned tailgate parties.

Why go? This one is too easy a decision, and I think that's where they really are gonna feel it. They already are. College football games are pulling in way more attendees.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:58 PM (39g3+)

138
Nope, a couple thugs raised their fists. Good bye Eagles.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 12:58 PM (EgwCt)

139 I seem to recall a bunch of high school kids Instagramming their shitty Mooch-mandated lunches with a few choice words on the subject.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 12:58 PM (NWiLs)

140 Texans locked arms, some Pats sitting, now crowd booing.

Hmmm.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 12:58 PM (GsAUU)

141 Alejandro Villanueva the only Steeler that came out for the anthem.

College? United States Military Academy

Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (8ikIW)

142 They still care VERY VERY MUCH INDEED about putting butts in their $172/game seats!


Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:55 PM (v6Osy)


Not to mention the $5 hotdogs, $6 soft drinks, $10 beer, etc.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (yzxic)

143 Cracks often start small but then grow larger

Posted by: Skip


Story of my life.

Posted by: Hope Solo at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (/qEW2)

144
So when do I start to see a marketing strategy were white males christians are asked not to by our product or service?

Posted by: YIKES! at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (t6XCL)

145 All the Eagles players are lock-armed. No kneelers that I see. Giant flag on field, flyover scheduled.

And this is why they do it. Because people keep watching anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (39g3+)

146 Just heard a super-low jet fly by.
Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (ANIFC)

Where are you? I'm in NJ and I heard one too.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (7uYFy)

147 Read where some MLB team took the knee. LOL
I don't watch any pro sports so could give less than a shit.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (mcI77)

148 141 Alejandro Villanueva the only Steeler that came out for the anthem.

College? United States Military Academy
Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (8ikIW)

--Yep, a veteran.

Good on him.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (GsAUU)

149 And I thought GA was your team???


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (mpXpK)


Nope, I'm a Mississippi State alumnus. #HailState

Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (yzxic)

150 Is 'locked arms' some kind of protest?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (oVJmc)

151 I think the performance of the national anthem(s) is part of the atmosphere in the NHL--particularly in the playoffs.

Posted by: Northerlurker
________

Did you catch the Metallica guys doing the anthem in San Jose during the Stanley Cup Final a couple years ago?

http://tinyurl.com/h97j393

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (zkGZ8)

152 Locking arms and standing is better than kneeling.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (IYHxL)

153 When I was in college, my roommate worked at a pizza delivery place, and I had some flour in our kitchen and one day noticed it was packed full of weevils, so I disgustedly threw it out.

He saw me and said "it's a good thing you never see what our cooks put into the pizzas".

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (V2Yro)

154 At the end of City on the Edge of Forever 7 people were beamed up at once.This is important to nerds.

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (rmVvL)

155 142 They still care VERY VERY MUCH INDEED about putting butts in their $172/game seats!


Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:55 PM (v6Osy)

Not to mention the $5 hotdogs, $6 soft drinks, $10 beer, etc.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (yzxic)

Yep. It's nuts. They want to vacuum every last dime out of your pockets, and people keep flocking to the stadiums to let them do it. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (NWiLs)

156 Just saw the statement fro Bob Kraft. He's deeply disappointed. Trump stood by you in your darkest hour, Bob. Fuck New England.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (gC2IV)

157 Incidentally, I'm not happy with the president of the United States saying that someone "should be" fired for what they do. That was not a good move by President Trump. He's free to say whatever he wants, but a man in his position needs to know that sounds like a legal threat. Its one thing for me to say "you should be fired" but another entirely for the President of the United States to say it, particularly after the last one used every power at his command to destroy his political enemies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (39g3+)

158
Not to mention the $5 hotdogs, $6 soft drinks, $10 beer, etc.


??

Last Cards game I went to, *$9* for a hotdog.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (oVJmc)

159 I believe that stadium taxes usually pass on promises of job creation and community pride.
----

Yeah, here's a cool little story for you.

They've closed two arenas in the Detroit area-- Joe Louis Arena, and the Palace of Auburn Hills. They have opened Little Caesars Arena downtown, which will now be the home to the Red Wings and Pistons.

I don't know about Joe Louis Arena, but between full/ part time staff, there were 1,800 employees at the Palace. They lost their jobs.

No one talks about this because "Yay, DETROIT!!!" but the promise of a new venue has actually caused a significant number of people here to lose jobs.

BTW...from what I've heard, many people from Joe Louis arena have kept their jobs; however, if you're a new hire from the Palace, your rate is vastly lower than it was before.

Yay! Detroit!!!

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (aT+Bx)

160 Locking arms is nonsense.
Look at the flag, remove hat, hand over heart.
Anything less is a dis.

Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 01:02 PM (w7KSn)

161 153 When I was in college, my roommate worked at a pizza delivery place, and I had some flour in our kitchen and one day noticed it was packed full of weevils, so I disgustedly threw it out.

He saw me and said "it's a good thing you never see what our cooks put into the pizzas".
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (V2Yro)

So the movie "Waiting" was part documentary?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 01:02 PM (NWiLs)

162 The NFL has become fat, arrogant, and stupid (which is no way to go through life).

They forget the past at their peril. The '60's and '70's when many franchises struggled to stay in business were not that long ago.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:02 PM (ALDN3)

163 144
So when do I start to see a marketing strategy were white males christians are asked not to by our product or service?
Posted by: YIKES! at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (t6XCL)

That seems to be Marketing 101 for most corporations.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 01:02 PM (ANIFC)

164 Last Cards game I went to, *$9* for a hotdog.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (oVJmc)


Heh. Goes to show the last time I was at a pro game.

Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 01:02 PM (yzxic)

165 151 I think the performance of the national anthem(s) is part of the atmosphere in the NHL--particularly in the playoffs.

Posted by: Northerlurker
________

Did you catch the Metallica guys doing the anthem in San Jose during the Stanley Cup Final a couple years ago?

http://tinyurl.com/h97j393

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (zkGZ

--Love, love, the anthem(s) in NHL games. Boston and Chicago have awesome singers for their home games.

Oh, and Bing the lyrics to the French version of "O Canada." VEEEEERY militant, quite unlike Peudeau.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:02 PM (GsAUU)

166 152 Locking arms and standing is better than kneeling.
Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (IYHxL)

-- +1

I have no problem with that.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:03 PM (GsAUU)

167 146 Just heard a super-low jet fly by.
Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (ANIFC)

Where are you? I'm in NJ and I heard one too.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (7uYFy)

Philly. It must have been for the Sportsball flyover.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 01:03 PM (ANIFC)

168 So when do I start to see a marketing strategy were white males christians are asked not to by our product or service?

Posted by: YIKES! at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (t6XCL)

Been there, done that. See Camping World.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (T71PA)

169 'He's deeply disappointed.'

I'm deeply disappointed in you, Bob.

Thought you were better than this.

I think JoeF is correct--this is misplaced racial fear.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (ALDN3)

170 It's not much of a pushback, but any time a high school humor video starts out with a shot at Michelle Obama and her food Nazis it's worth noticing.

Michelle reminds me of an Odd Couple episode where one of Felix's relatives gave him a job at his candy making company. At one point, the relative pulls Oscar aside, with a pained expression on his face. He handed Oscar a stick of bubblegum. "Ewww... it tastes like ... broccoli".

Felix was amiable and misguided, but he *always* foreshadowed this trend in modern liberalism. It's not funny anymore. Maybe people should be forced to watch the Odd Couple as inoculation. I watched as a kid, and it definitely "planted seeds" that would later cause me to see problems with liberalism.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (/qEW2)

171 Alyssa Milano BEGS people who hate sports to watch NFL on #TakeTheKnee

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (Nwg0u)

172 152 Locking arms and standing is better than kneeling.
Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:01 PM (IYHxL)

It's still making a "Look at me & my virtue!" statement during the National Anthem & is disrespectful. You stand still, hand over heart, nothing more.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (ANIFC)

173 Alejandro Villanueva the only Steeler that came out for the anthem.

Send that man a fan letter.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (oVJmc)

174 He saw me and said "it's a good thing you never see what our cooks put into the pizzas".

"You think that's bad, you should see him make donuts."

-just the punchline.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:05 PM (tRaq7)

175 171 Alyssa Milano BEGS people who hate sports to watch NFL on #TakeTheKnee
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (Nwg0u)

Alyssa Milano on her knees? I'm not objecting to that.

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 01:05 PM (ANIFC)

176 Read where some MLB team took the knee. LOL

Just one idiot on the Oakland A's, who will likely ride the pine for the rest of his natural life for it.

MLB has no time for this crap. Plus, they tend to be significantly more conservative on average.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:05 PM (39g3+)

177 Gotta start somewhere josephistan

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:05 PM (IYHxL)

178 142 if season tix holders are no-shows the team will immediately feel their absence due to reduced concession revenue

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 01:06 PM (7l5V0)

179 The dude who kneeled in the MLB had his cap off and it over his heart.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:06 PM (IYHxL)

180 "it's a good thing you never see what our cooks put into the pizzas".

That is viscerally grotesque, but on the other hand many people around the world consume insects as a source of protein.

What is worse is when rat and mouse turds go into the mix, as at the joint where I worked (briefly) in college.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:06 PM (ALDN3)

181 "157 Incidentally, I'm not happy with the president of the United States saying that someone "should be" fired for what they do."

By jumping on this with his stompy boots, Trump is doubling down on the idea that this is the fight between "People who love the Flag" and "People who hate the Flag". Of course it's childish and overemotional, but now every time the left criticizes Trump he'll have set his marker as "oh yeah, but he's one of the people who Love the Flag, and his enemies are the people who Hate the Flag".

He's guaranteed to win any fight on that dumbed down level, which is why he is working overtime to drive things to this level. And the left are being idiots by helping him to do it every step of the way.

I envision a meme where Trump is holding a laser pointer, shining a red dot on the wall, and libs are the cat chasing it endlessly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 01:07 PM (V2Yro)

182 A $9 hotdog would have to come when I call it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:07 PM (tRaq7)

183 Got to go run errands& get ready for Church. Imagine that - there are other things to do on Sundays than watch football!

Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 01:07 PM (ANIFC)

184 173 US Army veteran

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 01:07 PM (rmVvL)

185 I think the locked arms thing is more about "we're all in this together brothers, solidarity!" than politics. Its morphing into "us vs them" rather than "evil pigs oppressing gentle giant."

And NFL players trying to portray themselves as oppressed victims is a tough sell.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:07 PM (39g3+)

186 if season tix holders are no-shows the team will immediately feel their absence due to reduced concession revenue

And parking, and etc. And employees, who won't be needed to sell those concessions.

And remember that municipalities make tax revenue off ticket sales. That's a lot of money that will get felt all around.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:08 PM (oVJmc)

187 PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES DURING MY BROADCAST, KIND SIR!

Posted by: Don O. Lawrencell, Esq. at September 24, 2017 01:08 PM (tQ5dy)

188 By jumping on this with his stompy boots, Trump is doubling down on the idea that this is the fight between "People who love the Flag" and "People who hate the Flag". Of course it's childish and overemotional, but now every time the left criticizes Trump he'll have set his marker as "oh yeah, but he's one of the people who Love the Flag, and his enemies are the people who Hate the Flag".

I am fine with that, and its good strategy, but it was bad wording.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:08 PM (39g3+)

189 Have seen/read short items stating that "GenZ" (for lack of a better term) is going hard-Right. So the vid at this post is no surprise.

Posted by: dad29 at September 24, 2017 01:08 PM (7Kti7)

190 if season tix holders are no-shows the team will immediately feel their absence due to reduced concession revenue

And parking, and etc. And employees, who won't be needed to sell those concessions.


Generally speaking, people go to the bar after the game, or get a meal at a local place as well. Those people will feel it as well. Most modern stadiums have a whole little town built up around them to leach money off sports fans, and they all feel it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:09 PM (39g3+)

191 127
While Obama was president it was suddenly OK to stand for the anthem and the flag and to be "proud" of your country because those things--to many people in general and to the overwhelming majority of blacks--became embodied in the person of Obama.
Now that Trump is president, there is no way they are going to transfer that loyalty to him. That's what this is about. It never occurs to them that the anthem and the flag are bigger than Obama or Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (7uYFy)


I think that has a lot to do with it.

The mere fact that a white man was elected is what's fueling this "white supremacism is on the rise" nonsense. After Obama, we were supposed to have a woman president, and perhaps a Hispanic next time.

But never, ever again a white man. That would be a step backwards from our glorious collective multicultural future.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:10 PM (sdi6R)

192 Christopher - I agree with your post up thread about how Trump went about this whole thing.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:10 PM (IYHxL)

193 It's useful to note that this ambivalence about Democracy goes back to it's earliest days - Socrates was notably scornful of democracies, as was his most famous protege, Plato, who was the first to formally propose that "experts" should be allowed to govern the rest of us, for our own good, of course.

Woody Allen wrote a piece in which he was Socrates awaiting his execution.

Allen: I guess I should never have suggested having a philosopher-king.

Simmias: Especially when you kept pointing to yourself and clearing your throat.


If you think he's funny and need a laugh:
http://home.sprintmail.com/~napazoid/wallen.htm

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 01:10 PM (/qEW2)

194 'He's guaranteed to win any fight on that dumbed down level'

Bingo. Trump's political instincts are keen.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:10 PM (ALDN3)

195 I'm loving this whole thing. Krapondick started it all August a year ago, when he sat each week during the anthem. It took a few weeks before people noticed, and then it was on.

And now Trump will finish it. I thank President Trump for standing up as an ordinary American, and shouting "this stinks like shit on ice!"

This is a battle that the SJWs cannot win, but I encourage them to not disengage but press Forward.

Oh, and I encourage Congress to block the tax free status on any future state and city bonds for stadiums, and also to remove the non-profit status of the National Football League. Maybe this can be rolled into the tax reform bill.

Play ball!

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 24, 2017 01:11 PM (0ogQG)

196 165 logprof

Blues season ticket holder (half). Take the kids.

You go to NFL games?

As I posted earlier, every NHL team has black players now*, & increasingly so. However... they're Canadians, so probably limited SJW potential there.

* (one of them has the intriguing name of Smyth-Picott. Spelling appx).



Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:12 PM (v6Osy)

197
"Its good strategy, but it was bad wording."

Trump's historical Epitaph, right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 01:12 PM (V2Yro)

198 Roger Goodell makes what, $40 million or more per annum?

Posted by: navybrat at September 24, 2017 01:12 PM (w7KSn)

199 Never cared much for Woody--either the young comic or the latter-day pedophile.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:12 PM (ALDN3)

200
Well, what I suspect will happen now is the fake knee-protest against the national anthem will become a fake knee-protest against President Trump.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2017 02:58 PM


Fake News is saying this is all being done "in defiance of Trump" now.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:13 PM (+pGz/)

201
How to make a stupid stunt a huge stupid idiotic league-wide stunt.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:14 PM (+pGz/)

202 "Its good strategy, but it was bad wording."

Trump's historical Epitaph, right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 01:12 PM (V2Yro)

Remember, Trump fans take his statements seriously and his critics take them literally.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 24, 2017 01:14 PM (T71PA)

203 I think the susceptibility to this nonsense correlates with money.

The NHL has never come close to the inflated salaries in the other professional sports. Most of the guys are still comparatively blue-collar.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:14 PM (ALDN3)

204
Fake News is saying this is all being done "in defiance of Trump" now.


And Trump voters.

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, fellas.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:15 PM (oVJmc)

205 All this over some washed-up loser who was just trying to keep from getting cut.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:15 PM (oVJmc)

206 Roger Goodell makes what, $40 million or more per annum?

Ten bucks a year would be too much.

I chuckled at his response to PDT, Goodell saying that our president disrespected the NFL as though the NFL didn't start this by disrespecting the Anthem.

Remember Colon Krapernick started this over the false meme of "hands up, don't shoot," which has been proven to be a media-created lie that never actually happened.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:16 PM (tRaq7)

207 Trump has trolled them into stepping off the cliff.

It's a Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote dynamic.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:16 PM (ALDN3)

208 179 The dude who kneeled in the MLB had his cap off and it over his heart.
Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:06 PM (IYHxL)


Sounds like he was a bit confused.

I mean, worshiping the flag as a graven image isn't good either.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:16 PM (sdi6R)

209
NFL Exec: Sir, the fans are revolting!

Goodell: You said it. They stink on ice!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 24, 2017 01:17 PM (gC2IV)

210 191 Jemele Hill said the only reason Trump won was he's white. But so is FAB. The only way her argument makes sense is if there was a POC on the ballot.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 01:17 PM (7l5V0)

211 Oh, and Bing the lyrics to the French version of "O Canada." VEEEEERY militant, quite unlike Peudeau.

Posted by: logprof

________

O Canada!
Land of our ancestors
Glorious deeds circle your brow
For your arm knows how to wield the sword
Your arm knows how to carry the cross;
Your history is an epic
Of brilliant deeds
And your valour steeped in faith
Will protect our homes and our rights,
Will protect our homes and our rights.

(I'm glad they're on our side.)

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 01:18 PM (zkGZ8)

212 Many organizations in the US, including corporations and the MFM, have now adopted the Spinal Tap philosophy of "don't have many fans, but those fans we have are passionate about the band, which is what we want."

/or something like that.

Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:18 PM (aT+Bx)

213 Well you folks who are so obsessed with democracy surely agree that we should fire all the experts who work at the nuclear powerplants and just have the people vote on how to turn the valves right???

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:19 PM (9TR2V)

214 203 Phineas

Per Forbes Mag, last year; average salaries:

NBA $5 mill & change

MLB $3 mill

NHL $2 mill & change

NFL $1.9 mill

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:20 PM (v6Osy)

215 /or something like that.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:18 PM (aT+Bx)
---------

They're becoming more selective in their appeal.

Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2017 01:20 PM (UoSKV)

216 Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:19 PM (9TR2V)

1500 milli-Kohns

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 24, 2017 01:20 PM (T71PA)

217 NFL players double down... entire teams taking a knee during the National Anthem...

Oh..... my...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (NgKpN)

218 All this over some washed-up loser who was just trying to keep from getting cut.

Exactly. Dude was seeing his future and tried to save it by becoming a political icon. So he grew out a fro to make his somewhat tan self look more ethnic, and put on a show.

In football, taking a knee has symbolic meaning. In baseball it just means you're tired or injured, or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (39g3+)

219 179
The dude who kneeled in the MLB had his cap off and it over his heart.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:06 PM (IYHxL)

He's trying to have it both ways.

Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (gKOMX)

220 The interviewed on Fox person said everyone already had tickets and contracts etc so would be four years before anyone felt a turn down.

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 12:22 PM(l4l/z)



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George Lucas didn't become rich due to ticket sales. He became rich due to merchandizing.

If the NFL isn't moving t-shirts, jerseys, caps and the like, yeah, they are going to notice it.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (6n332)

221 Who needs a Pope or priest when you can just have the people vote what the Commandments should mean!!!

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (9TR2V)

222
You go to NFL games?

As I posted earlier, every NHL team has black players now*, & increasingly so. However... they're Canadians, so probably limited SJW potential there.

* (one of them has the intriguing name of Smyth-Picott. Spelling appx).



Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:12 PM (v6Osy)

--Only been to one NFL game, ever, in 1995.

Only been to one NHL game, in '99.

Loooooove my Winnipeg Jets.

Last year, the NHL drafted the first ever player born in China.

Speaking of black hockeh players, I so wanted P.K. and the Preds to win. I friggin' detest the Penguins.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (GsAUU)

223 The whole concept of 'protest' in this country is insane. Do people not realize that their fucking lives are golden? Let's make these cunts go a month without HVAC, hot water, sanitation, refrigeration, electricity, petrol, etc. etc. etc.

Get a grip.

Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (z74gh)

224 George Lucas didn't become rich due to ticket sales. He became rich due to merchandizing.



If the NFL isn't moving t-shirts, jerseys, caps and the like, yeah, they are going to notice it.
---

Merch is where it's at.

Posted by: Gene Simmons of KISS at September 24, 2017 01:22 PM (aT+Bx)

225 Like football, but want to tell the National Felon League to eat a bag of dicks? Easy, set your DVR to record some of the great NCAA matchups on Saturday. Then, on Sunday watch good football without seeing the multimillionaire tittle babies throwing a tantrum.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 24, 2017 01:22 PM (xInes)

226 Some NHL player fired back at Trump yesterday and last year several muslim players spoke against him.The NHL is not immune.

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 01:22 PM (rmVvL)

227 Shut down the schools of Engineering! We'll just let the people vote on how to build a bridge!

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:22 PM (9TR2V)

228 Kaepernick is also dating/married to someone deep in the BLM movement

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 01:22 PM (IYHxL)

229 Progressivism is the belief that society should be ordered by an intellectual elite.

A Progressive is someone who imagine themselves as part of this elite.

After all, no one ever voted to send themselves to the concentration camp.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:23 PM (LTHVh)

230 NBA $5 mill & change

MLB $3 mill

NHL $2 mill & change

NFL $1.9 mill

Posted by: mnw
________

When you figure that an NFL roster is about twice as big as an NHL roster which is about twice as big as an NBA roster, the NFL payroll comes out about twice the average.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 01:23 PM (zkGZ8)

231 (I'm glad they're on our side.)

Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 01:18 PM (zkGZ

--When I first read the lyrics, I was floored by the line about the cross.

That translation would be better retaining the word "exploits" instead of "deeds," though.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:24 PM (GsAUU)

232 Trump has trolled them into stepping off the cliff.

It's a Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote dynamic.


So many good Warner Bros cartoon memes...

http://tinyurl.com/yc5xg9lg

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:24 PM (tRaq7)

233 Many organizations in the US, including corporations and the MFM, have now adopted the Spinal Tap philosophy of "don't have many fans, but those fans we have are passionate about the band, which is what we want."

/or something like that.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 01:18 PM (aT+Bx)

You are on to something.
I think this principle is at work already when it comes to cable news channels and the late night comedians. They want the people who watch Colbert because they are perceived to have money to spend--and the willingness to spend it. Advertisers don't care how many watch as long as they get the ones who will buy their products. Same with CNN. Look at their advertisers compared to the catheter commercials FOX has....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 01:24 PM (7uYFy)

234
When you figure that an NFL roster is about twice as big as an NHL roster which is about twice as big as an NBA roster, the NFL payroll comes out about twice the average.


The other sports play up to ten times the number of games as the NFL.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:24 PM (oVJmc)

235 I always take a vote of the people in the waiting room when I have a medical procedure done.
Surgeons are merely experts!
The prescription process is antidemocratic!!!

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:25 PM (9TR2V)

236 lp

Jets? Are you from the Great White North?

It's a myth that NHL players are comparatively poorly paid. They make MORE on average than the NFL players, btw. A little more.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:25 PM (v6Osy)

237 If you think this is bad, wait until the NBA season starts.

The problem for the NBA is that they don't put on a very good show. Football has turned into a huge spectacle, almost none of a televised football game is actually about the play on the field. Its graphics and noise and replays and interviews and commentary and visuals. And about 20-40 minutes of action on the field over 3 hours.

NBA is entirely reliant on its star system: people who like and want to see their favorite guys play. If the stars are caustic and annoying, that damages the NBA tremendously. Because its just not a very interesting game to watch unless you have someone specific to watch and root for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:25 PM (39g3+)

238 I always take a vote of the people in the waiting room when I have a medical procedure done.

And when the expert rules that you should die?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (LTHVh)

239 228 yes and he didn't vote which earned the wrath of the commies.

Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (7l5V0)

240 Peebles

I fail to see your point. The discussion concerned comparative player SALARIES. Not team payroll.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (v6Osy)

241 Don't use a mechanic to fix your car take a vote of a whole bunch of people who've never even been under the hood. It's the democratic way!
Dentists are experts- don't listen!

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (9TR2V)

242 213
Well you folks who are so obsessed with democracy surely agree that we
should fire all the experts who work at the nuclear powerplants and just
have the people vote on how to turn the valves right???

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:19 PM (9TR2V)

One rarely sees such a fine example of a 16 point irrelevancy, no sir.

Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 01:27 PM (gKOMX)

243 MOICHANDISING!!!!

Posted by: Yogurt at September 24, 2017 01:27 PM (GsAUU)

244 Posted by: MAxIE

Are you actually brain damaged?

Or is this a new froll?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:27 PM (LTHVh)

245 Laid up today with a bum knee. Went against my better judgement and switched on the Browns-Colts game and there's a play-by-play announcerette. Click.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2017 01:28 PM (Tyii7)

246 229 Progressivism is the belief that society should be ordered by an intellectual elite.

A Progressive is someone who imagine themselves as part of this elite.

After all, no one ever voted to send themselves to the concentration camp.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:23 PM (LTHVh)

Intellectual Aristocracy? interesting...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 01:28 PM (NgKpN)

247 admittedly I've come late to the thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:28 PM (LTHVh)

248 Sen. Ted Cruz said today that he doesn't support the latest Obamacare repeal plan drafted by Sens. Bill Cassidy and Lindsey Graham and suggested that the proposal also lacks the vote of Sen. Mike Lee.

The Texas Republican said at the Texas Tribune festival in Austin that he and Lee had offered amendments to the Graham-Cassidy proposal that would go further to bring down Obamacare premiums but that the changes weren't included in the latest draft of the bill.

-
Ehhh. It was dead anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 01:29 PM (Nwg0u)

249 Peebles

I fail to see your point. The discussion concerned comparative player SALARIES. Not team payroll.


The other fella mentioned total payroll.

I was making the point that the players in the other sports earn more total, but play many times the number of games to get it.

These poor NFL guys get paid royally for their few appearances per year.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:29 PM (oVJmc)

250 I'm done with the NFL and the disgusting, spoiled and ungrateful SOB's playing the game that kneel. They disrespect every American and person who has worn the uniform to protect this country. I love my country more than a bunch of illiterate and entitled miscreants who have taken for granted everything this country has given them.

I will be turning the NFL off this year. Screw them all.

Posted by: MeMyselfandI at September 24, 2017 01:29 PM (94+2G)

251 I might just beat the snot out of him at Thanksgiving, and then ask him how he likes totalitarianism now?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 12:20 PM (wYseH)

---
that comment has put me in a funk. If CBD can't convince those with his more articulate ideas, what hope have I with the kids that come around here?

They have become like those mice , they hit the propaganda button to get more rewards.

Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 01:29 PM (FKrah)

252 I've had Walmart on a month of boycott but I may have to go there today rather than next month.

It's hard to live your values.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:29 PM (LTHVh)

253 Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (9TR2V)

The fact that you feel incapable of running your own life doesn't mean everyone has that problem.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (3myMJ)

254 221
Who needs a Pope or priest when you can just have the people vote what the Commandments should mean!!!

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:21 PM (9TR2V)

He followed me home, Dad. Can I take him to the vet and have him put down?

Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (gKOMX)

255 241 Don't use a mechanic to fix your car take a vote of a whole bunch of people who've never even been under the hood. It's the democratic way!
Dentists are experts- don't listen!
Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (9TR2V)

Government power is all about telling you how to run your life...

Now who knows better how to do that... a bunch of self appointed 'experts'... or.... you?

Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (NgKpN)

256 237 If you think this is bad, wait until the NBA season starts.
..

The NBA requires the players to stand for the anthems. There was no kneeling last season, though as NGU said, watch the players get around that rule somehow this season.

I share NBA season tickets with my sibs. I'm gonna be really pissed if I see kneeling.

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (sNESL)

257 I can't work out Max. Is this satire against those who want pure democracy? Or is it arguing that democratic forms of government are evil and we should all submit to the will of the elites?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (39g3+)

258 I didn't survive cancer by taking a vote.
I guess I did the stupid thing and listened to experts

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (9TR2V)

259 Laid up today with a bum knee. Went against my better judgement and switched on the Browns-Colts game and there's a play-by-play announcerette. Click.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2017 01:28 PM (Tyii7)
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So it's a factory of double-sadness today.

Sorry about your knee.

Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (UoSKV)

260 I have no idea what the new guy is trying to say.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:31 PM (oVJmc)

261 236 lp

Jets? Are you from the Great White North?

It's a myth that NHL players are comparatively poorly paid. They make MORE on average than the NFL players, btw. A little more.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:25 PM (v6Osy)

--No, I just lived in Winterpeg for a decade.

Not a great place to visit, but a very good place to live.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:31 PM (GsAUU)

262 well Maxie got me, I have no idea what this comment had to do with anything we are discussing

Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 01:31 PM (FKrah)

263
It's hard to live your values.

Truth.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:31 PM (+pGz/)

264 NFL, in addition to paying the lowest salary of the Big 4, also has the shortest average career-- 3-4 years, for all players who actually make a regular season NFL team roster.

In the NFL, there are no 20-year veteran left handed relief pitchers.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:32 PM (v6Osy)

265 I've had Walmart on a month of boycott but I may have to go there today rather than next month.

It's hard to live your values.



I haven't been inside a Target store in nearly two years. The few things I bought from them now come from Amazon.

I was leery after the credit card security breach, but their support of pedo bathrooms was the final straw.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:32 PM (tRaq7)

266 253 Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (9TR2V)

The fact that you feel incapable of running your own life doesn't mean everyone has that problem.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (3myMJ)

--I think you're missing MAxIE's point(s).

Not a troll.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:33 PM (GsAUU)

267 MAxIE

-
Well, I think we should vote on which trolls should be taken out and shot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 01:34 PM (Nwg0u)

268 Posted by: bluebell at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM

Thanks. Hopefully just a temporary setback with the knee. CBS might as well have put a ticker at the bottom with a disclaimer "This is what you get for tuning into such a crappy game".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 24, 2017 01:34 PM (Tyii7)

269 Froll, at least based on previous sanish postings.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:35 PM (LTHVh)

270 Maxie, well thank G-d you had an expert to treat your cancer, I am certain that sooner rather than later Only the best will be able to afford themselves of the Best healthcare in the world.
it will be sad to see treatments and scientific discoveries put on the back burner to treat all the worlds citizens instead. Only the desired of the minute will be important enough to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on. Much like Trannies, while letting vets waste away .

o well.

Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 01:35 PM (FKrah)

271

The assholes ( I refuse to call them humans) who kneel, sit or whatever disrespect more than our Anthem. They also debase our flag, our country and the values it stands for.

Done with them all.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 24, 2017 01:35 PM (S/hVx)

272 I guess I did the stupid thing and listened to experts
Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 01:30 PM (9TR2V)

Obviously our education didn't include a logic course. You are using a logical fallacy over and over.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 01:35 PM (3myMJ)

273 - PDT declared today to be Gold Star family day
- over 1000 NFL players, coaches, and staff are expected to have muh kneeling protest during the National Anthem.

Amazing the tax free league could not wait a week to begin kneeling for muh free speech and protest. And once again these Dindu Nuffin Marxists will still blame Trump and everybody else for their lack of awareness and respect.

RIP NFL

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 24, 2017 01:35 PM (XFue2)

274

btw, anyone remember TOXIC ASSETS?

This is the term that describes obama's (and Bush's) purchase of bad mortgages.

Well, the Toxic Assets chickens are coming home to roost. The Fed is now, yeah like now, trying to figure out how to unload all this massive debt that propped up obama's fake house-of-cards economy for 8 years.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:35 PM (+pGz/)

275 --I think you're missing MAxIE's point(s).



Not a troll.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:33 PM (GsAUU)

Missing his point.

Posted by: Monty James at September 24, 2017 01:36 PM (gKOMX)

276 it's also a little early to be drunk, but then, I am among Morons.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:36 PM (LTHVh)

277 One pertinent question is 'who decides who the expert is?'

Stalin chose Lysenko as his agricultural expert, who was a serious crackpot.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:36 PM (oVJmc)

278 hope everyones holidays are not to arduous.

Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 01:36 PM (FKrah)

279 I haven't been inside a Target store in nearly two years. The few things I bought from them now come from Amazon.

I was leery after the credit card security breach, but their support of pedo bathrooms was the final straw.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:32 PM (tRaq7)


I'm going to Target in a couple of days. You know those curly cue florescent light bulbs? A couple of them burned out and I want to use their bathroom and 'forget' the bulbs when I leave.

Funny how there used to be recycling places for them originally. Now? Not so much.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 01:37 PM (EgwCt)

280 276 it's also a little early to be drunk, but then, I am among Morons.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 01:36 PM (LTHVh)

--[raises Diet Dew and silver rum cocktail]

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:37 PM (GsAUU)

281 Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:33 PM (GsAUU)

Sounds like First Church of Global Warming talk to me.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 01:37 PM (3myMJ)

282 While Obama was president it was suddenly OK to stand for the anthem and the flag and to be "proud" of your country because those things--to many people in general and to the overwhelming majority of blacks--became embodied in the person of Obama.
Now that Trump is president, there is no way they are going to transfer that loyalty to him. That's what this is about. It never occurs to them that the anthem and the flag are bigger than Obama or Trump.

Posted by: JoeF.


It was also ok to sit for the anthem under Obama, when the Kaeped Crusader started that schtick. I agree with your view that Obama-ites have a very blinkered view of "patriotism" and loyalty. But I disagree that Obama ever encouraged people to be proud of their country in any way. He eroded that and encouraged people to segregate themselves into their own virtual countries, based on their demographic identities.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 01:37 PM (/qEW2)

283 148 141 Alejandro Villanueva the only Steeler that came out for the anthem.

College? United States Military Academy
Posted by: Bruce at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (8ikIW)

--Yep, a veteran.

Good on him.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (GsAUU)

This made me cry. I hope he shamed some of his team mates, and got a roaring ovation.

Posted by: Gem at September 24, 2017 01:37 PM (uaHyk)

284 I was leery after the credit card security breach, but their support of pedo bathrooms was the final straw.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:32 PM (tRaq7)

Yup....me too. I am the Lot to their Sodom.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (5VlCp)

285 MAxIE is not new, but I'm not sure what point he's trying to make.

Personally, I'm against pure democracy. It is mob rule.

Neither do I want the Progressive ideal, a dictatorship of self-appointed "experts".

What else is there? Hmm, a "republic". Maybe we should give that a try. It would have a constitution, separation of powers, and so on.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (sdi6R)

286 I stand corrected on average professional salaries.

I still don't expect this nonsense to infect the NHL.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (ALDN3)

287 i better get back to the kitchen.

Posted by: willow at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (FKrah)

288
re: nfl owners

These people are huge Cocksuckers and Leaches. They are a bunch of Elon Musks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (+pGz/)

289
How many stadiums were paid for by taxpayers??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (+pGz/)

290 it's also a little early to be drunk, but then, I am among Morons.

Posted by: Grump928(C)


WTF?? Oh, Morons. Never mind.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at September 24, 2017 01:39 PM (/qEW2)

291 soon-to-be fat chicks fantasizing about baked goods. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Posted by: DFCtomm at September 24, 2017 01:39 PM (50gG9)

292 Wow, the Texans are giving the Cheaties a game.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:39 PM (GsAUU)

293 'Well you folks who are so obsessed with democracy surely agree that we should fire all the experts who work at the nuclear powerplants and just have the people vote on how to turn the valves right???'

We can read New Yorker cartoons as well as you, Maxie.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:39 PM (ALDN3)

294
re: the credit card security breach

Was this a scam?

Because Fake News and the Credit Card Corporatists are telling me the remedy for Experian's security breach is to...

monitor my credit report closely and often using services such as Transwhatever, Equifax, and...

EXPERIAN!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:41 PM (+pGz/)

295 286 I stand corrected on average professional salaries.

I still don't expect this nonsense to infect the NHL.

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (ALDN3)

--From a national origin perspective, the NHL is far more "diverse" than the NBA or NFL. The Finns, Russians, Czechs, Swedes, and Slovaks in the league just want to play hard and win, not get involved in petty politics.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:41 PM (GsAUU)

296 Per game, NFL pays way more than any other sport, because they play so few games. But that's kind of irrelevant to the discussion -- those bills keep coming in over a year, no matter how many games are played.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:41 PM (39g3+)

297 226 Some NHL player fired back at Trump yesterday and last year several muslim players spoke against him.The NHL is not immune.

Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 01:22 PM (rmVvL) [/i[

Like I said earlier, all pro sports are now shit and have been for decades.

Boycott all pro sports.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 01:41 PM (mcI77)

298 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE DRAMA OF WHO WILL STAND AND WHO WILL SIT IS MORE INTERESTING THAN THE ACTUAL GAME.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 24, 2017 01:42 PM (/qEW2)

299 "In the NFL, there are no 20-year veteran left handed relief pitchers."

But I'm coming pretty close.

Posted by: Eli Manning at September 24, 2017 01:43 PM (cAXIk)

300 Wishful thinking

Posted by: Wtp at September 24, 2017 01:43 PM (WQfDg)

301 How many stadiums were paid for by taxpayers??

I'm not sure any of them were paid for by the team. They can extort a city to build them a new palace so easily. Its bizarre watching multi billionaires demand people build their place of business for them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)

302
Terrible weather. September sucks. Used to be a nice month for weather.

84 and muggy. "Feels like 95."

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:44 PM (+pGz/)

303 MAxIE is missing his point in an education i US history and Civics.


We are not, and never have been, a Democracy. we started out as a lose collection of independent colonies under the articles of confederation. Then after the CC we became a "Republic" when it was ratified. In 1865 we became an oligarchy of a one Party rule controlled mostly by the radical Republicans in the NE.


Now we are an oligarchy controlled by a virtually permanent elected group of politicians without a nickles worth of difference between them.


And when voting for those politician they stay elected by bribing the FSA in one case and lying in the other.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 01:44 PM (mpXpK)

304 Go to Goodwill, buy some used NFL T-shirts, video them being set on fire and post it on YouTube.

Posted by: MAGA at September 24, 2017 01:45 PM (LnOh3)

305 But I'm coming pretty close.


Posted by: Eli Manning

Watch where you're pointing that thing!

Posted by: scrood at September 24, 2017 01:45 PM (cQdY5)

306 Fuck, I benched all the Viqueens on my fantasy teams because of Case Keenum, but damn they're going off like crazy.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:45 PM (GsAUU)

307 188: But that was NOT DJTs wording. CRT. What he said was "wouldn't you love to see an owner fire a player for doing this" to folks at a rally. Darn right they would love to see that. But this is not telling owners "You should fire players who are not patriotic enough" Just pointing out to the owners and league that a lot of the fan base is pissed about the disrespect and the lying smears (police shoot blacks -- stats prove that the PoPo are far less likely to shoot blacks for same level of aggression than whites)

Posted by: PaleRider at September 24, 2017 01:46 PM (8qFZP)

308
I'm watching Wagon Train.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (+pGz/)

309 301 How many stadiums were paid for by taxpayers??

I'm not sure any of them were paid for by the team. They can extort a city to build them a new palace so easily. Its bizarre watching multi billionaires demand people build their place of business for them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)

--The Rams owner, Kraft, and Jerrah "Glory Hole" Jones paid for theirs (Rams arena still being built), but that may be it.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (GsAUU)

310 If u told me that I would be posting about the fn NFL, I would not have believed you. French & Indian Wars, yes. Billionaire Boys' Club, no. The last NFL game I went to, the Rams were in STL & Singletary was coaching the Niners. Long time ago.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc:

Rush explained this in excruciating detail last week (yawn!):

Many respectable sports people think that NFL ratings are down of late NOT because of the kneeling, but because of the availability of all the games on the 'Net now.

Used to be, if u were a Steelers fan like Rush, and you lived anyplace but Pittsburgh, you HAD to watch your team the one or two times that their regular season game was on broadcast TV. No longer, as Rush said. (It's important to know this is RUSH talking, not Keith Olberman, right?)

So in conclusion, nobody knows for certain how much of the NFL ratings slump is due to SJW bullzhit, & how much is due to other factors.

Please do not flame my adz-- flame Rush.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (v6Osy)

311
I don't think Kraft paid for Gillette. Or all of it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:48 PM (+pGz/)

312 'IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE DRAMA OF WHO WILL STAND AND WHO WILL SIT IS MORE INTERESTING THAN THE ACTUAL GAME.'

Will Vegas take bets on this?

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:48 PM (ALDN3)

313 next I guess baseball will not be as American as apple pie.

The left insists on the No Escape from our commie invasion, you will be forced to accept it as "normal"!

Is it really normal to idolize athletes? They already screwed it up with all the steroids ... Maris 61 ... then the roid boyz came along, three of them beat Maris by 20+.

"Decentralizing" can also apply to sports ... good for kids to get scholarships, but the serious STEM kids are probably not the jocks. Flucking commies screw up every good thing ... which would be less bad if their commie system would actually have SOME merit, but it is just one big mafia/terrorist scam.

Exposing the fraud ... that is the current mission I guess. The left has been supporting antifa, Kim Jung Un, and being anti-American. Minds are cracking ...

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 01:49 PM (yKAUL)

314 The Giants certainly depend on a loud crowd for 3rd down defensive situations. Hell, in Seattle, they call crowd noise "the 12th man."

The Giants screwed themselves out of that when they built a new stadium and charged exorbitant amounts for the PSL's. The entire lower section is half empty because even Fortune 500 corporations balk at spending THAT much on entertainment. (Skyboxes could be filled to capacity, but they don't cheer, they're busy eating nachos.) And needless to say, the corporate types don't even notice third downs. When only the upper tier of the stadium is making noise, the team is at a severe disadvantage on third down.

Of course, now they're alienating the upper tier!

Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 01:49 PM (70QTT)

315
I can name more Bruins and Red Sox players from the 70's than any today.

I can't name a single player today on either team, in fact.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:49 PM (+pGz/)

316 --The Rams owner, Kraft, and Jerrah "Glory Hole" Jones paid for theirs (Rams arena still being built), but that may be it.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (GsAUU)


Really? Tell that to the StL taxpayers.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 01:50 PM (Enq6K)

317 Kaepernick sucks lots of dick

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 01:50 PM (NWiLs)

318 Was this a scam?

I wouldn't be surprised, Soothie, and caught that product placement too.

The Target breach was a couple of years ago, IIRC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 01:50 PM (tRaq7)

319
Let's not forget what the fake protest was all about: WHITE Cops & White Society.

It originated as a blatantly RACIST protest.

Now it's even worse.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:51 PM (+pGz/)

320
--From a national origin perspective, the NHL is far more "diverse" than the NBA or NFL. The Finns, Russians, Czechs, Swedes, and Slovaks in the league just want to play hard and win, not get involved in petty politics.
.....

Maybe not more diverse than than the NBA. That last time the Spurs won the championship in 2014, the team consisted of two Frenchmen, one Italian, one Argentinian, one Brazilian, one white Aussie, one Aboriginal Aussie, and some Americans.

BTW, the Aborigine, Patty Mills, comes from a family that was involved in advancing their rights in Australia. In Australia, legal discrimination against Aboriginals was a much more recent practice than Jim Crow was here. But America is all bad and stuff. Whatever.

The team is less diverse currently but yeah I doubt the Latvian on the team really cares about any of this crap. He's a no nonsense dude.

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 01:51 PM (sNESL)

321 Kaepernick sucks lots of dick

Didn't work for me.

Posted by: Michael Sam at September 24, 2017 01:51 PM (oVJmc)

322 314 The Giants certainly depend on a loud crowd for 3rd down defensive situations. Hell, in Seattle, they call crowd noise "the 12th man."

Posted by: Oschisms at September 24, 2017 01:49 PM (70QTT)

--Seattle actually ripped of 12th Man from Texas A 'n' M. They actually pay TAMU to use that phrase.

Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 01:52 PM (GsAUU)

323 MAxIE is strawmanning.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 01:52 PM (/qEW2)

324 I love all the 'don't divide us' comments.

Where the f*** were these people during ODouche's reign of terror?

Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:52 PM (ALDN3)

325 This concept of benevolent dictator is particulary frightening. I grew up in Czechoslovakia in the 60s and 70s and at that time people were nostalgic about the old Austro-Hungarian empire. In the middle of communist oppression! I guess it has a lot to do with most people not being able to teke responsibility for their action and feel the need to be guided by someone "superior!" Here come in the supposed experts. 99% of them could not find theier way out of a phone booth, but we call them "experts." When i hear that word i run as fast as i can.
People need to take responsibility for their lives themselves!

Posted by: Dusan at September 24, 2017 01:53 PM (QhUQr)

326 One person has been killed and at least six others have been wounded in a shooting at the Burnett Chapel Church of Christ in Antioch.

Police have confirmed that multiple people have been shot at Burnette Chapel Church in Antioch on Pin Hook road.

The Nashville Fire Department eight people were shot inside the church. The shooter was among those injured.

Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 01:53 PM (Enq6K)

327 Many respectable sports people think that NFL ratings are down of late NOT because of the kneeling, but because of the availability of all the games on the 'Net now.

The problem with this theory is that when asked, fans say specifically and by a large margin that their main reason for leaving the NFL is "annoying politics"

So these "respectable sports people" can lie to themselves but that doesn't help the matter any.

There's no doubt that what they list, plus frankly a poor product lately and too many ads is hurting NFL ratings as well. But that's not the main reason. I think people were annoyed but willing to put up with it until this came along.

There's a reason that the exact time and date of the collapse of NFL ratings came when Kapernickle started his little stunt and was not addressed by ownership or the league.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:54 PM (39g3+)

328
Trump and We are being divisive??

It's like Nazis fake crying and telling Others to stop throwing them in gas chambers (rhetorically) while they are (literally) throwing people into gas chambers.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:54 PM (+pGz/)

329 I think its funny that the exact same group of people who tell us the Confederate Battle Flag means Slavery... and ONLY their meaning is valid..

Are the same folks telling us that Kneeling is not disrespect for the Flag, Country, and Vets...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 01:54 PM (NgKpN)

330 I went to the MLB website complaint form and when I submitted my complaint it rejected it by stating I am 'ineligible' to submit the form.

Just happened.

Could the complaint form be screening for anti-protest complaints?

Posted by: torabora at September 24, 2017 01:55 PM (MWxvw)

331 Is 'locked arms' some kind of protest?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 01:00 PM (oVJmc)
***********************

Solidarity against the commies, the red scourge, the pinko fascists, and the antifascists.

Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 01:55 PM (WUuhi)

332 324 I love all the 'don't divide us' comments.

Where the f*** were these people during ODouche's reign of terror?
Posted by: phineas gage at September 24, 2017 01:52 PM (ALDN3)


I don't remember who pointed it out, but if Hillary had won, these very same people would be saying, "Now it's time to put aside our differences and unite in support of our new President."

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 01:55 PM (sdi6R)

333 I would like to see a string of wounded warriors go on the field and stare down these worthless pieces of shit and dare them to take a fucking knee.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at September 24, 2017 01:55 PM (aMlLZ)

334
It's like the Palestinians fake-crying over Israel's brutality while lobbing bombs at Israeli children.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:55 PM (+pGz/)

335 NFL players should next refuse to wear those demeaning team "costumes", as if they are owned by some rich white guy. How dare "da man" make them look so ridiculous and commercialized. They are like white man gang colors ... just say no.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 01:56 PM (yKAUL)

336 We just had a President call for a boycott of the NFL.

This would have been inconceivable two years ago, let alone that it would be a R President.

Posted by: Eli Manning at September 24, 2017 01:57 PM (cAXIk)

337 The team is less diverse currently but yeah I doubt the Latvian on the team really cares about any of this crap. He's a no nonsense dude.

Posted by: stace


It is crap. F*ck diversity. The Klansman sees too much diversity as evil. The liberal sees "not enough" diversity as evil. The are making the same mistake in think that "diversity" per se has anything to do with good or evil.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (/qEW2)

338 It's just amazing to me that these jackasses piss on the very country that made them filthy stinking rich for playing a stupid game. They'd otherwise be slinging burgers or crack.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (NWiLs)

339 Many respectable sports people think that NFL ratings are down of late NOT because of the kneeling, but because of the availability of all the games on the 'Net now.

Yeah, that's why "Breaking Bad" lost so much audience, so many different ways to view it.

Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (WUuhi)

340 327 CRT

I hope you're right, but it's too soon to tell.

The "respectable sports people" who buy into the theory include one who styles himself El Rushbo, so it isn't only leftists who are dubious that thevkneeling is the principal cause of the ratings decline.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (v6Osy)

341 Jaguars owner Shad Khan unites with players in defiance of Trump




Fck Shit Kahn and his rotten team. Kill TV ratings and let's lots of empty seats. They need us far more than we need them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (auHtY)

342 I guess it has a lot to do with most people not being able to teke responsibility for their action and feel the need to be guided by someone "superior!"

Its scary and uncertain and not easy to stand on your own. Many people are more than willing to abandon their personal freedom so they can have a sense of security and stability in their lives. That's where the push for all government power comes from. Socialized medicine, all of it: safety and security at the cost of liberty.

America when it was founded and for a long time was made up mostly of people who game here with no guarantees, abandoning safety and a stable, predictable life to make their own way. But we've lost almost all of that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (39g3+)

343
I can name more Bruins and Red Sox players from the 70's than any today.

I can't name a single player today on either team, in fact.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:49 PM (+pGz/)

That show I am with football. In the seventies I could list you off all 48 Cowboys, what college they went to, wife's name, everything. Now I know one name I think. Funny how interests change in one's lifetime.

Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (sNESL)

344
Posted by: Sure at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (aPYzZ)

Get back under the stairs!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 24, 2017 01:59 PM (+pGz/)

345 Noob!

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 24, 2017 01:59 PM (T71PA)

346 343 I guess it has a lot to do with most people not being able to teke responsibility for their action and feel the need to be guided by someone "superior!"

Its scary and uncertain and not easy to stand on your own. Many people are more than willing to abandon their personal freedom so they can have a sense of security and stability in their lives. That's where the push for all government power comes from. Socialized medicine, all of it: safety and security at the cost of liberty.

America when it was founded and for a long time was made up mostly of people who game here with no guarantees, abandoning safety and a stable, predictable life to make their own way. But we've lost almost all of that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (39g3+)

We get it conditioned and beaten out of us from the time we're kids and it's only gotten worse.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 01:59 PM (NWiLs)

347 336 We just had a President call for a boycott of the NFL.

This would have been inconceivable two years ago, let alone that it would be a R President.
Posted by: Eli Manning at September 24, 2017 01:57 PM (cAXIk)

Come on,
Come on,
Come on, Eli

Shouldn't you be paying attention to the game you're in against the Eagles?

Posted by: Taylor Swift at September 24, 2017 01:59 PM (GsAUU)

348 Hodor!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 02:00 PM (LTHVh)

349 Hmmm... the NFL was Tax exempt for many many years...

As it seems THEY have now admitted they had that wrong... and voluntarily gave up that status...

Audit and nail them for back taxes???

/hands President Trump the IRS phone number...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 24, 2017 02:00 PM (NgKpN)

350 My recollection is that BB had gone into re-runs BEFORE Bryan Cranston started exposing his leftoid opinions, but I could be mistaken.

Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 02:01 PM (v6Osy)

351 I hope you're right, but it's too soon to tell.

Well the polling data is absolutely telling that most people are abandoning the NFL primarily over politics. Its worth doubting whether or not you can trust polling, but its not just my opinion or some guesswork that this is what people are telling pollsters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 02:02 PM (39g3+)

352 Pittsburgh Steelers will not come onto field for anthem

"It's about us remaining solid," he (Mike Tomlin) said. "We're not going to be divided by anything said...We're not going to let divisive times or divisive individuals affect our agenda."




Yeah, you're solid alright. Like concrete between your ears

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 24, 2017 02:02 PM (auHtY)

353 336 We just had a President call for a boycott of the NFL.

This would have been inconceivable two years ago, let alone that it would be a R President.
Posted by: Eli Manning at September 24, 2017 01:57 PM (cAXIk)


Did Trump actually call for a boycott? If so I missed it.

Posted by: rickl at September 24, 2017 02:02 PM (sdi6R)

354 Dolphins-Jets is a cripple fight.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 02:02 PM (LTHVh)

355 Goodell didn't handle the Ray Rice thing well. He played it soft and one of the concessions was to hire several SJW at high salaries to "police" the NFL.

You never give an inch to the SJWs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (cAXIk)

356 Prayers to the victims and their families...

As far as the NFL is concerned, fuck them.

Al Davis would be saddened to see this shit.



"I'm in pro football to win, to have the Raiders dominate, to have the Raiders global, and we're not going to be able to do that with a half-filled stadium." - Al Davis

And folks thought he was crazy for hating the NFL.

Posted by: SMFH at September 24, 2017 02:03 PM (sB1y1)

357 Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 01:58 PM (NWiLs)

That's not really helpful

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (IYHxL)

358 So the end of the cookie movie has the kids ratting to their Commie overlords, the free market being thrown in the camps and everybody sharing cookies in the commune.
Yeah, kids are being taught Commie Goodthought. Bring on the Socialist Freetopia!

Sorry,CBD. Seems today is See The World Through Grumpy Old Man Glasses Day.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 24, 2017 02:04 PM (e1mEI)

359 Trump tweets:
If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!

So, inciting a boycott

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 02:06 PM (cAXIk)

360 I appears that the Saint decided they need a win.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 24, 2017 02:06 PM (LTHVh)

361 After all the despicable things his predecessor did and said to adulterate us it's difficult to fault Trump's attempts to eliminate the adulterers.

Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 02:07 PM (WUuhi)

362 craziest thing to me is the people they are most directly offending are the "fanatics" that are mostly white middle class that put money and time and energy into loving this sport dominated by blacks. Their fans probably work with blacks, tailgate with them, but also fly a flag and have family in the military.

THOSE are the people directly "flipped off" when they say "sorry your family died fighting for freedom, but we still think all whites are racist, and so disrespect the whole America concept". (but still want to live here cuz every other place is so MUCH worse).

Scott Adams tried to argue it is not hypocritical just because they make a lot of money, since they are indeed willing to risk that income to make their point. But I think the big money IS the point ... all systems have problems but they took the Big Money from the middle class whites that they directly insult. It is not the White Globalists really funding them, it is the middle class white fan that paid $200+ (ticket/tailgate//parking/beer/time) to see them play, instead watches them spit in their face.

Sorry Scott ... pointing out how much they extract from the non-racist white guy is a very valid point, not "the stupidest thing". Just cuz they risk losing money doesn't make the point invalid. The whole "Gangster Mentality" often costs 'them" money, but doesn't make it noble.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (yKAUL)

363 "If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!"


Cleaning up America, one tweet at a time.

Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted by: gNewt at September 24, 2017 02:11 PM (WUuhi)

364 ESPN/NFL/Marvel comics: We don't need the fans. But they need us. Therefore, no-escapism for you.

They are like the bum who gets on a crowded subway train just as the doors close and thinks "Aha! A captive audience. Now I can harangue them for as long as I want". No, only until the next stop.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 24, 2017 02:12 PM (/qEW2)

365 The whole "Gangster Mentality" often costs 'them" money, but doesn't make it noble.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 02:08 PM (yKAUL)
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Hey, you talkin' to me?

Posted by: A. Hernandez at September 24, 2017 02:14 PM (WUuhi)

366 why did breaking bad views tank? My opinion is that a) it was quite well known while it was on, and a large percentage of it's target audience found out about it when it was on; b) it's not really all that rewarding to watch it show by show, you really need to make a long term commitment if you're going to get much out of the show, and c) most people who want to watch things on replay are going to go in for rather light entertainment that they can take or not. Not many people wondering what to watch on an off night are going to pick something totally dark and depressing with no payoff until they put another 60 hours of effort into it.

And then of course having the actors spout off about his politics just cuts an already small potential audience by another 50%.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 24, 2017 02:15 PM (V2Yro)

367 BB. Wow, I didn't know it lost audience.

Posted by: A. Hernandez at September 24, 2017 02:19 PM (WUuhi)

368 Do we have a resurgence of OCD ranting trolls? How November.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2017 02:23 PM (Gv+zt)

369 The Steelers stay in locker room during National Anthem.
-Drudge

You know? Fuck these thug assholes. You know? Fuck these assholes. You know? You know?


Posted by: Under Fire at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (mcI77)

370 29 Friends daughter goes to Middlebury ($65k/yr). Spoke w/ her this Summer. She had no idea Bernie's wife had bankrupt Burlington College. She lives in a SJW bubble.
Posted by: Uncle Ant at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (XCWds)
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That was just my wife sticking it to The Man. Power to the People!
*shakes fists in air*

Posted by: Berniebot at September 24, 2017 02:39 PM (MWxvw)

371 Kaepernick is also dating/married to someone deep in the BLM movement -

muzzie, too I think

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at September 24, 2017 03:30 PM (CL76w)

372 Why does the sonobi ad block part of the blog post?

Posted by: Mike at September 24, 2017 03:37 PM (oGI1N)

373 258 MaxIE I have read your posts throughout this thread. I call non sequitur on all of it. Are you a troll or just out in left field?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 03:38 PM (l4l/z)

374 369 agree

Posted by: AnnaS at September 24, 2017 03:39 PM (l4l/z)

375 #200 so, this never was really about murdered black men.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 24, 2017 03:50 PM (G/6B6)

376 373 The all about democracy commenters slam plato without understanding the obvious weaknesses of democracy that he pointed out and the Founders wisely recognized.
We don't live in a democracy and that's a wonderful thing

Posted by: MAxIE at September 24, 2017 07:37 PM (ji5P9)

377 south africa is a democracy with a white minority. ask them how that's working out.

Posted by: GOP smart set at September 24, 2017 11:25 PM (KL5Ns)

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