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Open Thread (with Lots of Content) & GAINZZZ Thread
I figure the thing that's best here is the Making of Red Dawn (the original) featurette, also embedded below, but linked here in case you can't see it below.
Other stuff: She seems nice. In Australia, there's a controversy over the Australian Football League putting out a statement that it, as a corporation, supports same sex marriage. The question is, as it is here: Who the hell are these people to tell ticket-buying fans what they ought to think about a political issue? Shock: CNN is barely covering the Menendez trial on the actual channel (though there is some scattered coverage on its doesn't-even-matter website), and the networks have almost entirely suppressed the story. Why aren't the media and other leftist propaganda organs actually covering Valerie Plame's antisemitism? They covered the shit out of, say, Steve Bannon's alleged antisemitism, but for some reason have decided that the proven and longstanding antisemitism of a former CIA officer making decisions about Middle East policy, and influencing US opinion, just aren't worth much exploration, for some reason. Here's the second-most obvious answer, apart from simple tribal allegiance and partisan bias: Because antisemitism has been thoroughly mainstreamed on the political left, far more that it has been on the right. Go figure: Leftists decree that having a child is the worst possible decision you could make, both for yourself and The Planet. Amusingly, here's the related story this bullshit site suggests you might also be interested in:But ignore that. For the Anti-Human Left, the Human Voluntary Self-Extinction Project outweighs all other concerns. They really are Agent Smith -- they really do want an end to the human race. I meant to link this earlier, but John Sexton has written it up for us: Leaked emails show the full madness at Evergreen State College, with lots of professors complaining they are being threatened, harassed, and stalked by "Social Justice" Warriors. All of whom were permitted to take over the campus, vigilante style, by the administration, with cops ordered to stand down. And then crazed lunatics had a free hand to impose their own weird "justice" on the Filthy Normals. Oh, and speaking of college madness, you might enjoy Hilary Clinton Absolver James Comey being disrupted at a (planned) college address for 16 minutes. Oh, and Jimmy Kimmel, who cheerled John McCain in his latest betrayal and lies, of course got coached up on his Obamacare talking points by Chuck Schumer. Below, that Red Dawn making-of featurette, and then a short GAINZZZ entry.
More: Why Greece needs to start having babies again soon or face financial oblivion
What Have You Done to Make the World a GAINZZZier Place Today? On my front, I've been getting wiped out by too few rest days. Plus, trying to run a low-carb caloric deficit (I think; I don't count calories) while doing so. So I've started eating more, and eating some carbs, hoping that I'll at least have the energy to do the workouts I'm trying to do. I don't know if that'll work. I should start taking more Glutamine (which supposedly aids recovery), but I haven't started that yet. On the GAINZZZ front, eating more, and eating more carbs, has resulted in... well, I do have lifting GAINZZZ, but I'm also putting on fat-weight too. Not a lot, but I'm not seeing any LOZEZZZ. I've repeatedly read (or heard) it's impossible to try to both gain and lose weight at the same time -- which I realize looks pretty obvious -- and that you have to choose one or the other, and I think I'm finding out that's about right. I might have to try something like "eat more six days a week, but then fast one day." That's what I'm doing today. Coincidentally -- I forgot about this guy until today -- this guy suggests doing something like that, which he calls the "Snake Diet" (because you eat a lot, then you don't eat for days) and recommends drinking an electrolyte-rich drink he calls "Snake Juice." Basically, he suggests One Meal a Day plus the weekly 48 hour fast, or some fuckin' shit like that. He begins every video with the greeting, "HEY FATTIE!," I guess as a motivational tool, which.. well, it kinda works, I guess. Starting off a video "HEY FATTIE!!!" really doesn't sugar-coat it much. Now, to be honest, I'm not sure that I trust this guy's advice -- though I've done a lot of the stuff he suggests -- but I do find him amusing:
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 07:59 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 07:59 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 07:59 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 08:00 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Aunt Luna at September 22, 2017 08:00 PM (Zd2ZF)
Hmm, indeed.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:00 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:02 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 08:02 PM (LTHVh)
Looks like Strange pulled it out.
Posted by: publius, the Disgusting Harf-Fornicator at September 22, 2017 08:02 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 08:04 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 22, 2017 08:04 PM (wmaTe)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:05 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2017 08:05 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: Aunt Luna at September 22, 2017 08:05 PM (Zd2ZF)
Posted by: josephistan at September 22, 2017 08:05 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:06 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 08:06 PM (LTHVh)
What did Strange pull out?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:06 PM (IW5NJ)
It.
Posted by: josephistan at September 22, 2017 08:06 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 22, 2017 08:07 PM (wmaTe)
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 22, 2017 08:07 PM (t3oNG)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (Enq6K)
Dammit, FOX was making it sound like Strange won. Or I wasn't paying attention. Hell, the runoff isn't until Tuesday.
Fox was just going on about Trump coming to the Strange rally.
And Trump is praising Sessions, now.
Posted by: publius, the Disgusting Harf-Fornicator at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (SC9so)
How about actually fixing the financial problem instead of "kick the can " gimmicks?
Posted by: cosmic at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (uc45P)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (LTHVh)
There are two insights that came together for this.
1) I now weigh myself first thing upon waking and evacuating, as I find that I lose about 3 pounds in my sleep. So, sleep is good for weight loss.
B) I was fishing in the tailwater of a bottom-release dam recently. If water spills over the top of a dam it's warmed by the sun and is only good for growing useless fish like bass and crappie. It it's bottom release, you get consistent cold clear trout water year-round.
Yay.
So I was standing in my nice cold trout water until I was tying knots by sight and memory because I couldn't feel my fingers any more and it hit me:
Calories are by definition a measure of heat. So, exposure to icy trout water must consume calories as it sucks out heat.
Ergo: Ace should sleep in a sensory-deprivation ice-water bath.
Massive gainzz and the risk of near death experiences. What could be more ewokian?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2017 08:09 PM (gIRsn)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:09 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 08:09 PM (8NewS)
Sounds like it's time for the Filthy Normals to form Committees of Vigilance.
Posted by: rickl at September 22, 2017 08:10 PM (sdi6R)
How about actually fixing the financial problem instead of "kick the can " gimmicks?
Posted by: cosmic at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (uc45P)
They need more suckers at the base of the pyramid to keep the Ponzi scheme afloat.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:10 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 22, 2017 08:10 PM (17QyB)
Do NOT die Ace. We need you.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:10 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2017 08:10 PM (M3TF/)
Posted by: Larry O'Donnell at September 22, 2017 08:10 PM (LTHVh)
Football. It's going stupid world wide
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 08:11 PM (auHtY)
I hope Moore wins even though he's a bit of a SoCon weirdo, just purely to spite McConnell.
Posted by: cosmic at September 22, 2017 08:11 PM (uc45P)
Do they even have enough financial capability to do that, raise children for 20 years until they can start building society?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 08:12 PM (oVJmc)
What did Strange pull out?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:06 PM (IW5NJ)
It.
Posted by: josephistan at September 22, 2017 08:06 PM (ANIFC)
I would suggest pulling out of strange...actually dot put it in if uts really strange.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:12 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2017 08:12 PM (zLDYs)
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Yet ESPN won't air the match between Richmond and Essendon. You'd think there'd be synergies there.
Or maybe just supporting same-sex marriage isn't enough. Austrailian Rules Football is kind of, you know:
(white)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2017 08:13 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:13 PM (SC9so)
I think FOX was just saying that it was a win for Strange to get Trump to come to the rally. And think that will put him over the top or something.
The primary is this Tuesday.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 08:13 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Larry O'Donnell at September 22, 2017 08:13 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2017 08:14 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:14 PM (SC9so)
what's a Shiner?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:15 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 08:15 PM (8NewS)
Behold! the delightful melody and heavenly harmonies that is lacking in my manservent who shovels the burning wood chips.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2017 08:15 PM (rnAwa)
'I know, everyone wants to talk about the food itself
- the proteins, carbs, and fats. What to eat more of and what to avoid.
But research is now showing that simply paying better attention to what you eat is a key factor in whether you'll lose fat, get lean, and improve your health.
Whether your attention is trained on avoiding carbs, eating more vegetables, seeking out organic / free-range food, avoiding animal foods, or avoiding "non Paleo" food, it's all good.
Because what you focus on may not matter as much as simply caring more about what you're eating in the first place."
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:15 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 08:16 PM (bfUpy)
Do they even have enough financial capability to do that, raise children for 20 years until they can start building society?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
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No, they don't have that much time and also, kids are expensive to the State.
The average costs of school per student I'm sure exceeds the average yearly pension. And then there's the medical care, welfare, food stamps, etc if they are poor.
A few families having lots of kids is not going to fix this.
Posted by: cosmic at September 22, 2017 08:17 PM (uc45P)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2017 08:17 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 08:17 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: Soothsayer
________
A small, silver-colored fish.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2017 08:17 PM (zkGZ
Judging from the context I'd say a Shiner Bock.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Soothsayer
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A small, silver-colored fish.
Nuh uh. It's a guy in a fez collecting money for burn victims.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2017 08:18 PM (gIRsn)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2017 08:18 PM (mJ8mX)
Posted by: @SOEarpiece at September 22, 2017 08:18 PM (LTHVh)
Confirmed right wing kook at such a young age!
Probably had less to do with being a budding Bircher than it was to see a kick ass war flick where we're killing Commies.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 22, 2017 08:20 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Reverend Al Sharpton at September 22, 2017 08:20 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 08:22 PM (8NewS)
Posted by: @SOEarpiece
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I just got the Internet version a black eye.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2017 08:22 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: mark1971 at September 22, 2017 08:23 PM (xPl2J)
Shiner Brewery in Shiner, Texas. Good German people making good German beer for good Texas people.
Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2017 08:23 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:15 PM (IW5NJ)
Slang for a black eye. Oh wait, sorry, African American eye
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 08:23 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Shemp Smith at September 22, 2017 08:24 PM (398bZ)
that's pretty much it. I'm not super hungry. lost ten + pounds. No real exercise hard cause I tore my rotator cuff. I would like to lose more but stuck.
One thing to make it easy. I throw a family pack of thighs skin on in the electric pressure cooker with two cups of water. 15 minutes. tender.
Bonus: I beat a half dozen eggs and pour them into the hot broth and scramble with a fork. Instant eggs drop soup. I eat that for lunch for a few days. Delish.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:27 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 08:28 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:15 PM (Enq6K)
Kind of an odd generalization, isn't it?
I mean, simply caring... I don't know what that means.
Don't eat crap. Eat good. Yes. And?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:28 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2017 08:28 PM (rmVvL)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 08:29 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: mark1971 at September 22, 2017 08:23 PM (xPl2J)
Lol...this an deodorant.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:29 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 08:29 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Clifford at September 22, 2017 08:29 PM (8NewS)
Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2017 08:30 PM (SBgDf)
My impending unemployment means I may have time to work out more.
My hope/goal is to start the day with yoga for an hour, then weights. Then writing. Lunchtime I plan to go running, then food and editing.
Finally yoga again before bed.
I'll be frank, this is a long shot and I'm going to be really, really bad at all of this (especially the editing) for a while. And I may just punk out and get lazy. But I AM going to try this for as long as I'm out of work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 08:31 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 08:29 PM (IqV8l)
Is a Springbok a spring roll filled with bok choy?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:31 PM (SC9so)
Good Luck, Fattie!
Posted by: Snake Diet Guy at September 22, 2017 08:32 PM (8NewS)
How about actually fixing the financial problem instead of "kick the can " gimmicks?
Posted by: cosmic at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (uc45P)
They need more suckers at the base of the pyramid to keep the Ponzi scheme afloat.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:10 PM (NWiLs)
Yup....3rd World solutions never work. If breeding solved all the problems of overspending, China would rule the world.
Only a matter of time until China's fake economy and mafia government fail.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 08:33 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at September 22, 2017 08:33 PM (8NewS)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 08:29 PM (IqV8l)
Is a Springbok a spring roll filled with bok choy?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2017 08:31 PM (SC9so)
In Thailand, about a dozen or so cities are named Springbok.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:33 PM (Pz4pT)
I'll be frank, this is a long shot and I'm going to be really, really bad at all of this (especially the editing) for a while. And I may just punk out and get lazy. But I AM going to try this for as long as I'm out of work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 08:31 PM (xJa6I)
You need someone to hold you accountable!! You fat pissant!!! Hey Fattie!
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:33 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:33 PM (Pz4pT)
that could be a beer.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (SC9so)
I mean, simply caring... I don't know what that means.
Don't eat crap. Eat good. Yes. And?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:28 PM (Pz4pT)
I'm not sure what you mean and? He's saying whatever eating plan you follow, be it Paleo, LCHF, etc., they all work....there isn't 'one' perfect diet. They all work because people pay more attention to eating non processed foods and more attention to nutrients and what they're actually putting in their body.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (SC9so)
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The Royal Canadian Dragoons' cap badge features a springbok because a group 'boks startling alerted them to a Boer night attack during the South African War.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (mJ8mX)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (qGgwh)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at September 22, 2017 08:33 PM (8NewS)
Dew, or dew not . . . there is no dry.
Posted by: GAINZZZ Yoda at September 22, 2017 08:36 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 08:36 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: McGyver at September 22, 2017 08:36 PM (exVC/)
United Nations Headquarters Renovation
Jimmy talks to starlets about proposed renovations to the United Nations headquarters in New York, funding requests for the project, and estimated development costs for similar projects in New York. Following the show, audience members and developers will leg-wrestle Mr. Kimmel until they accede to his point of view or are permanently crippled. Guests include Halle Berry, Frankenberry, Chuck Berry, Chuck Barris and Chuck Woolery. Special Guest Appearance by Carnac the Magnificent to kick Kimmel's fat ass for Politicizing Everything.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 22, 2017 08:37 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:37 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:37 PM (SC9so)
HOOOONNNNN!!!!!
Posted by: Wendell The Manatee at September 22, 2017 08:37 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (NWiLs)
I'm not sure what you mean and? He's saying whatever eating plan you follow, be it Paleo, LCHF, etc., they all work....there isn't 'one' perfect diet. They all work because people pay more attention to eating non processed foods and more attention to nutrients and what they're actually putting in their body.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (Enq6K)
Except that's really not true. All diets are not equal.
The reality is, if you are depriving yourself of SOMETHING, it's not sustainable. You WILL bounce back from it.
The ONLY reasonable diet is moderation and variety. Don't pig out, don't eat crap, and don't follow idiot faddish ideas that are bad for you.
It astonishes me how complicated people make this. It's not complicated. Feed your body the nutrients it needs. And knock off buying shit from snake oil salesmen.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (Pz4pT)
I've signed up for another blacksmithing class tomorrow. Eventually I'm going to buy a welder and build a forge and start practicing from home.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (qGgwh)
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (kufk0)
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A broom-handle Mauser (thus the joke in the thread about "where's the dustpan" or similar).
Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (mJ8mX)
Well, that and Fur Oil, of course.
Posted by: Gwenyth P., lifestyle guru at September 22, 2017 08:39 PM (C4dGj)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2017 08:39 PM (ghofu)
Thanks for the summary, I'll be trying Shiner Bock out post haste!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 08:40 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 22, 2017 08:40 PM (rb1zT)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 08:35 PM (xJa6I)
STOP THE HAMMERING!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 08:40 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (Pz4pT)
Dont listen to him.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:40 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (kufk0)
Serendipitously, I am currently reading Larry Correia's "Monster Hunter Legion," set in and around Las Vegas.
Y'all MeetUppers be careful out there.
Posted by: Wendell The Manatee at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:37 PM (SC9so)
A bit tough, especially around the boat propeller scars.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (s5o+q)
Is Ace going to Vegas?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Gwenyth P., lifestyle guru at September 22, 2017 08:42 PM (C4dGj)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:37 PM (SC9so)
A bit tough, especially around the boat propeller scars.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (NWiLs)
Lol. Huh, I would have thought that would tenderize it. the things I learn here.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:42 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: runningrn at September 22, 2017 08:42 PM (4lzaU)
I've signed up for another blacksmithing class tomorrow. Eventually I'm going to buy a welder and build a forge and start practicing from home.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (qGgwh)
Who's going to work the bellows?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (kufk0)
Did have Pop-Tarts for break this week but will go back to a plain bagle next week.
Posted by: Skip
I like a plain beagle too.
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (eh0Va)
Posted by: Fritz at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (z74gh)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (Pz4pT)
Dont listen to him.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:40 PM (SC9so)
And when I say "variety" I mean food, food. Like stuff you can recognize. Plants, animals, simply prepared things. The simple rule is, the more it was modified, the worse it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (0OmEj)
Lol. Well if you didn't have to cut off a limb then...
EXCELLENT!!!!
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (SC9so)
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I look forward to your future win on Forged in Fire. And remember me when you cash that $10,000 check.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (mJ8mX)
Much health gainnzzz to be had.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:44 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2017 08:44 PM (SBgDf)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (0OmEj)
Gave your dog away?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (NWiLs)
I've signed up for another blacksmithing class tomorrow. Eventually I'm going to buy a welder and build a forge and start practicing from home.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (qGgwh)
You have a fire extinguisher right?
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bob 'yelling and eating a donut' at September 22, 2017 08:37 PM (SC9so)
A bit tough, especially around the boat propeller scars.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:41 PM (NWiLs)
Lol. Huh, I would have thought that would tenderize it. the things I learn here.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:42 PM (SC9so)
I'm not eating manatee.
Gay.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
Your mom likes working my bellows.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (qGgwh)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (398bZ)
It astonishes me how complicated people make this. It's not complicated. Feed your body the nutrients it needs. And knock off buying shit from snake oil salesmen.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (Pz4pT)
But that IS what he's saying.....here's more. I can't copy the whole thing...it's 15 pages long.
"Diet gurus are in this game to get attention, make a scene, and get on TV. That's why they try to force people into following strict and largely unnecessary nutrition rules - demonizing some foods, deifying others.
Sure it sells books. It gives good TV. But we all know how things turn out when real people try to follow these rules in real life."
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:46 PM (Enq6K)
Yes, we heard. I'm not commenting since I hate you.....
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 08:46 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (qGgwh)
Who's going to work the bellows?
Presumably, the welder will.
Posted by: indentured servitude at September 22, 2017 08:46 PM (xRfuA)
Posted by: Snake Diet Guy at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (8NewS)
Much health gainnzzz to be had.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:44 PM (hMwE
Yeppers. Working. But eggs are meat right? I mean eventually.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (0OmEj)
Trump is ripping the NFL. Krapperdick and taking a knee, plus pussying out with "hitting too hard" rules.
There will a SJW freak out about this. Freakout #13, 548 .
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (8O3HH)
This ought to now get her on the short-list of Kamala Harris' VP running mates for 2020.
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (BiLU+)
Much health gainnzzz to be had.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:44 PM (hMwE
I'm liking this suggestion.
Posted by: Shep Smith at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (NWiLs)
It astonishes me how complicated people make this. It's not complicated. Feed your body the nutrients it needs. And knock off buying shit from snake oil salesmen.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:38 PM (Pz4pT)
There's a huge genetic factor in what kind of diet is best for individuals . . .
My wife is of (largely) southern European heritage; she can eat carbs all day long and not gain weight.
If I (mainly northern European) would eat the way she eats, I would guraranteed gain weight . . . LOTS of weight. I can't tolerate too many carbs. She can.
All diets are not equal, because all people are not equal.
Advocating moderation without recognizing the individual, genetic element is, to be blunt, an evil, cruel lie.
Find out what your body reacts to, positively and negatively, and eat accordingly.
There isn't One True Diet That All Should Follow. More's the pity.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 08:48 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
A proper forge has a bellows that can easily be operated by the same person that is doing the metal work. The trick is the bellows does not need to be in continuous operation, just a few pulls on the bellows fires up the coals then you work the metal for a few minutes, repeat!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 08:48 PM (gwPgz)
But that IS what he's saying.....here's more. I can't copy the whole thing...it's 15 pages long.
"Diet gurus are in this game to get attention, make a scene, and get on TV. That's why they try to force people into following strict and largely unnecessary nutrition rules - demonizing some foods, deifying others.
Sure it sells books. It gives good TV. But we all know how things turn out when real people try to follow these rules in real life."
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:46 PM (Enq6K)
Then I misunderstood, but I thought what you posted said the opposite, that the fad diets are all a-ok.
They are not. The book sellers are almost literally snake oil salesmen.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:48 PM (Pz4pT)
They really are Agent Smith -- they really do want an end to the human race."
This is why they want to hold onto colleges. They can't replace themselves by breeding. They HAVE to recruit.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 22, 2017 08:48 PM (Vkf+s)
I'm not eating manatee.
Gay.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (Pz4pT)
You're just manaphobic....and theres condor on the menu.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:49 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 08:49 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 08:49 PM (8NewS)
Especially since she's a Republican.
Posted by: NBC at September 22, 2017 08:49 PM (BiLU+)
Ergo: Ace should sleep in a sensory-deprivation ice-water bath.
...
Cold therapy is actually something some recommend for weight loss as well as some other benefit I forget. Like muscle recovery or something.
Tim Ferriss talks about taking daily 30 minute ice baths or something like that in the 4 Hour Body.
The principle you outline is correct -- you do burn off calories maintaining core temperature when you're in the cold.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 08:49 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 22, 2017 08:50 PM (AZD0r)
Congratulations.
It threw me at first because I read you were down to 38lbs and I thought you were a German Shepard what can type.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2017 08:50 PM (gIRsn)
A friend has suggested I catch his sinus infection. The steroids he's getting for it are like magic in his weight workouts.
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 08:50 PM (FV+Yl)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 22, 2017 08:51 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:47 PM (SC9so)
yeah, eggs are from animals, so "meat"
so is butter and cheese
although cheese is tricky for some people - can cause weight stalls
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:51 PM (hMwEB)
Nah, the science is settled, everyone is exactly equal in every respect, unless you have white privilege, of course!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 08:51 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 08:51 PM (8NewS)
there was a study that found that people who kept a food log of what they ate -- but were given no eating recommendations to follow at all -- lost some fat, simply because they were being mindful about eating, as you suggest.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 08:52 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: cotton pickin finger licking chicken plucker at September 22, 2017 08:52 PM (UdKB7)
Now that's just not fair. We're only for killing as many babies as we can ... for now.
Posted by: The Anti-Baby Left at September 22, 2017 08:52 PM (BiLU+)
When I say I hate you, I really mean I'm jealous and hate you. After the heart attack last November I'm taking a bunch of meds and have a ton of stress in my life which isn't helping me any. I'm going to an American Heart Association thing next month, not really looking forward to it but my boss is on the local board.
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 08:52 PM (kufk0)
Nah, the science is settled, everyone is exactly equal in every respect, unless you have white privilege, of course!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 08:51 PM (gwPgz)
Hooooon!
Posted by: Wendell The Manatee at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
Major Healey: Not me. He creeps me out the way he looks at me sometimes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 08:48 PM (s5o+q)
No, it's not. It really isn't. There may be some minor variation, but generally people all need the same nutrients, and do NOT need the crap that everyone knows is crap.
The truth is, nobody really knows what anyone else eats. We think there are people who can eat all the [fill in the blank] they want, and be healthy as a horse.
They don't eat as much as people think they do.
Anybody consuming 3000 calories a day (assuming they are not world class athletes), with a large percentage of them being carbs, is going to be big as a house.
I don't care what part of the world one's genes are from.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (Pz4pT)
Did it ever occur to these lame-brains in the NFL to actually BAN STEROIDS totally so the players aren't HUGE?
Just maybe if the players weren't, oh I dunno, 30% larger and stronger than their predecessors of the olden days there'd be far fewer injuries.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: george costanza at September 22, 2017 08:54 PM (mJ8mX)
There isn't One True Diet That All Should Follow. More's the pity.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 08:48 PM (s5o+q)
Dad was in wholesale meats. W were blessed with much meat in teh freezer. My body I believe works best on meat. However I am Eyelian and pasta (macaroni), bread and butter dipped in tomato sauce (gravy) is not my friend. Go figure.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:54 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:54 PM (hMwEB)
I don't remember Frank Gifford going all soft in the brain.
Mike Ditka seems to be doing okay in the noggin.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:54 PM (IW5NJ)
Much health gainnzzz to be had.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books!
...
I haven't fasted in a while. two or three weeks. I've been focusing on the "Eat big to get big" weightlifting advice.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 08:54 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 08:54 PM (FV+Yl)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 22, 2017 08:45 PM (398bZ)
You'd like my pork chop recipe in the AoS Cook Book...
if it ever gets published!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 08:54 PM (gwPgz)
Just maybe if the players weren't, oh I dunno, 30% larger and stronger than their predecessors of the olden days there'd be far fewer injuries.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter
Leather helmets
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 08:55 PM (IqV8l)
But yeah, let's keep encouraging college boys to steroid-up to 280 lbs.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:55 PM (IW5NJ)
Why don't you just buy one of those Penis Pumps?
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 08:55 PM (8NewS)
Mrs. Bellows (played by Emmaline Henry) was hot. There's an "I Dream of Jeannie" miniskirt appreciation page that has nice shots of her.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 08:55 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
Major Healey: Not me. He creeps me out the way he looks at me sometimes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (auHtY)
Oh Yeah! Mrs. Bellows was a hottie.
Major Nelson should have been all over that like a fat kid on cake.
Hey Fattie!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 08:55 PM (5VlCp)
Funny how all those goofballs who play Rugby don't seem to be killing each other.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:55 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at September 22, 2017 08:56 PM (F6tBH)
It's not bad. The trick is to turn the cold up gradually. Frog in the boiling pot style.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 08:56 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 22, 2017 08:50 PM (AZD0r)
Trump's rally for Strange has attendees booing the GOP.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 22, 2017 08:56 PM (tbOMB)
You're just manaphobic....and theres condor on the menu.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:49 PM (SC9so)
Condor.
The one fad diet sellers walk in through.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:56 PM (Pz4pT)
Why don't you just buy one of those Penis Pumps?
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You should try jelqing.
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (kufk0)
They are not. The book sellers are almost literally snake oil salesmen.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:48 PM (Pz4pT)
Choose a diet that works for YOU. There is no One Size fits all diet. As long as it's nutrient dense and not a high processed food diet, have at it. Food awareness and food quality. That's all he's saying.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Dr. Zaius at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (ds+As)
Hooooon!
Posted by: Wendell The Manatee at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (s5o+q)
Ok now your cracking me up I need another tequila.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (SC9so)
===
eat at least 2 pounds of meat daily, more if you are working out.
need the amino acids and stuff to build muscle
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:58 PM (hMwEB)
I decided to give it a try as I did not want surgery. For about the first month or so, I couldn't even grab the grips. By spring, I was using the equipment like a normal person and putting on my own coat. You'd be surprised how good it feels to be able to put on your own dang coat.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 08:58 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:56 PM (Pz4pT)
Well played, sir!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 08:58 PM (gwPgz)
well, you mean alternate day fasting? You would eat every other day until you reached goal weight or fixed your hormones or achieved whatever goal you were trying to achieve.
people generally take breaks here and there, too.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 08:58 PM (8rNrN)
I like the guy's style, but 48 hours? I can do that shit standing on my head. Is it really that difficult? I must be in better shape than I thought.
Posted by: Fritz at September 22, 2017 08:58 PM (z74gh)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (gDSJf)
I think I remember reading something about the "hottie rules". The star, which was Barbara Eden, couldn't be out hotted by any of the lesser female cast, so they had to keep Mrs. Bellow toned down.
But there's a few shots of her that escaped that.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Dr. Zaius at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (ds+As)
Shouldn't that be every other six months?
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (gwPgz)
I'll pray
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (F6tBH)
Posted by: rickl at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 09:00 PM (8NewS)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 22, 2017 09:00 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: shep at September 22, 2017 09:00 PM (mJ8mX)
Just maybe if the players weren't, oh I dunno, 30% larger and stronger than their predecessors of the olden days there'd be far fewer injuries.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (IW5NJ)
That, and stop making equipment that allows players to launch themselves without actually feeling it.
Painful shockwaves through the body have the benefit of causing people to not do what causes them.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:00 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: zmdavid at September 22, 2017 09:01 PM (xqRaG)
The truth is, nobody really knows what anyone else eats. We think there are people who can eat all the [fill in the blank] they want, and be healthy as a horse.
They don't eat as much as people think they do.
Anybody consuming 3000 calories a day (assuming they are not world class athletes), with a large percentage of them being carbs, is going to be big as a house.
I don't care what part of the world one's genes are from.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 08:53 PM (Pz4pT)
I thought we were talking about "moderation."
"Moderation" varies widely depending on genetics. Carb tolerance varies widely depending on genetics (and to some extent on previous life history).
"Moderation" means wildly different things to different people. Some people can tolerate 200 g carbs, some 20. What level of carb consumption then is "moderate"? Answer: It depends on the individual.
"Moderation" is only helpful around the edges in weight loss and healthy eating. It isn't a sliver bullet.
There ARE no silver bullets.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:01 PM (s5o+q)
He should've got in the car with her.
Then injected with her with a big needle full of Heroin. Everyone would think she OD'd.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:02 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (CNHr1)
Good lord!
He's staying at their house?! Why?
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:02 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: zmdavid at September 22, 2017 09:01 PM (xqRaG)
Ummmmmm....No.
Your thinking of the Tube Snake Diet.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 09:03 PM (5VlCp)
Prayers up for all in your family!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
Choose a diet that works for YOU. There is no One Size fits all diet. As long as it's nutrient dense and not a high processed food diet, have at it. Food awareness and food quality. That's all he's saying.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (Enq6K)
Got it!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:03 PM (Pz4pT)
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You should try jelqing.
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 08:57 PM (kufk0)
Gees. I HAD to look that up. Its like clicking on a CDB link. That bastard.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 09:03 PM (SC9so)
Hotter than Barbara Eden? I don't think that is possible.
Posted by: Chuck C at September 22, 2017 09:03 PM (v8B+3)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:03 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: ArthurK at September 22, 2017 09:04 PM (AVMrq)
I have no idea what that is.
And, I had NO intention of looking it up.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 09:04 PM (8NewS)
I'm very carb-sensitive myself. I've tried the thing of upping carbs to see what my no-weight-gain level is. Turns out it's about... the 20g you do in Atkins induction. Maybe a little more. But not much.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:04 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:05 PM (CNHr1)
Just ate nuts (raw almonds, raw macadamia nuts, raw pumpkin seeds, roasted/salted sunflower seeds, and roasted/salted peanuts) twice/day -- about 700 calories X twice/day = 1400 calories/day) over a 5-day period.
Drank unlimited water and still lost 5 pounds. Sure got sick of nuts though ...
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 09:05 PM (BiLU+)
Star Trek Next Gen is on. It's a Q episode.
Q just called Riker "the redoubtable Commander Riker."
Not a word you hear often.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:05 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2017 09:06 PM (rmVvL)
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 09:06 PM (SC9so)
for most, yeah. Most people have a psychological barrier against it, and think it's a lot harder that it is, and that it's a lot more dangerous than it is (and so will begin telling themselves they have to eat).
until I got used to doing 16 hour fasts the idea of going a full day or 36 hours without eating seemed impossible.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:06 PM (8rNrN)
>> possible.
No, Mrs. Bellows wasn't really. But they had rules. The costars couldn't wear sexier outfits and stuff like that. Barbara had to be the star.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:06 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:05 PM (CNHr1)
Well, I would think the airport police report would absolve him of having to go to the house.
Did his son arrive at the airport too?
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:06 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:06 PM (bfUpy)
I thought we were talking about "moderation."
"Moderation" varies widely depending on genetics. Carb tolerance varies widely depending on genetics (and to some extent on previous life history).
"Moderation" means wildly different things to different people. Some people can tolerate 200 g carbs, some 20. What level of carb consumption then is "moderate"? Answer: It depends on the individual.
"Moderation" is only helpful around the edges in weight loss and healthy eating. It isn't a sliver bullet.
There ARE no silver bullets.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:01 PM (s5o+q)
Right. I read "eats carbs all day" as something other than moderation.
Someone who likes bread and pasta and whatnot, that's fine, and yes, genetics might be a factor in how MUCH one can reasonably consume and call it moderation, but the person who eats carbs "all day" is not practicing moderation.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:07 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 22, 2017 08:56 PM (tbOMB)
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is Trump smiling?
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2017 09:07 PM (4CNRo)
I have no idea what that is.
And, I had NO intention of looking it up.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 09:04 PM (8NewS)
Ya know Garret I've been here awhile, you'd think I'd get it. But nooooooooooooooooo.
Posted by: Coach Cannibal Bobs Long Pork Diet at September 22, 2017 09:07 PM (SC9so)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:07 PM (Pz4pT)
Concur.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:08 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:08 PM (lwiT4)
>> possible.
No, Mrs. Bellows wasn't really. But they had rules. The costars couldn't wear sexier outfits and stuff like that. Barbara had to be the star.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:06 PM (8O3HH)
Yup....Barbara Eden was on an Andy Griffith episode where she was dressed all normal like but she was still just dripping hot.
But Mrs. Bellows....she had that look that you just knew she liked to give up the booty.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 09:08 PM (5VlCp)
Q just called Riker "the redoubtable Commander Riker."
Not a word you hear often.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:05 PM (IW5NJ)
How did James Bond's equipment guy get on Star Trek?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 09:08 PM (auHtY)
Perhaps his name is Cue?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:09 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:01 PM (s5o+q)
There absolutely is.
Eat a bit less than you do now, do a bit more aerobic exercise than you do now. Slowly increment until you start shedding some weight.
Don't expect to lose years of weight gain by temporarily changing habits. Build new habits and maintain them permanently.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 09:09 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:05 PM (CNHr1)
Not to try to get too deep into it . . .
Did he tell the police about the gun in the house?
Prayers up for your brother and you too.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:10 PM (s5o+q)
That was a good one. Barney and the others were in the barber shop, watching her -- she was a manicurist, I think -- and they were just babbling with no idea what they were saying.
That scene is probably on Youtube.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:10 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Q at September 22, 2017 09:10 PM (mJ8mX)
Barbara Eden could be dressed in random items from Goodwill and the co-star in Victoria Secret bra and panties and Eden would still win.
Posted by: Chuck C at September 22, 2017 09:11 PM (v8B+3)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:11 PM (CNHr1)
========================================
Breakfast: Oatmeal and an apple.
Lunch: Salad of fresh mixed veggies.
Supper: Veggie Shish-ka-bobs with grapes and cherries for dessert.
All carbs, no? But I wouldn't call it im-moderate.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:11 PM (lwiT4)
Eat a bit less than you do now, do a bit more aerobic exercise than you do now. Slowly increment until you start shedding some weight.
Don't expect to lose years of weight gain by temporarily changing habits. Build new habits and maintain them permanently.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 09:09 PM (gDSJf)
Nope (in part).
There are studies showing that increasing exercise doesn't necessarily result in weight loss . . . in fact in certain individuals it will result in an increase in caloric consumption.
But yes, the only long-term way is to (after finding out what you can and can't tolerate, food-wise) to re-build your life habits to conform to what your body can tolerate.
This is an incredibly hard thing to actually do.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:12 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:12 PM (CNHr1)
I have had a coal forge and I greatly appreciate my gas one.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 22, 2017 09:13 PM (M3TF/)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:13 PM (CNHr1)
lose weight on it but health deteriorates because of lack of essential amino acids and protein
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:13 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:12 PM (CNHr1)
I'd worry that she *isn't* hiding the gun.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 22, 2017 09:14 PM (17QyB)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:12 PM (CNHr1)
He should be able to block her number. I would until I talked to the lawyer.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:14 PM (Enq6K)
I swear we aren't white trash. lmao.. had to throw that out there.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:13 PM (CNHr1)
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Oh jewells - LOL
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:15 PM (lwiT4)
Hahahahahahaha.
Posted by: lin-duh falling at September 22, 2017 09:15 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 08:59 PM (CNHr1)
Holy shit. She did this in public at the airport? If it was me, there's no way I'd go back to the same house as her. She can easily stage something to get him in trouble.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:15 PM (NWiLs)
========================================
Breakfast: Oatmeal and an apple.
Lunch: Salad of fresh mixed veggies.
Supper: Veggie Shish-ka-bobs with grapes and cherries for dessert.
All carbs, no? But I wouldn't call it im-moderate.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:11 PM (lwiT4)
In my mind "carbs" are complex carbohydrates found in processed foods like bread, pasta, and anything with added sugar.
I cannot imagine a diet without fruit, and frankly those nuts who recommend staying away from fruit are fruitcakes themselves.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:15 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 22, 2017 09:15 PM (AZD0r)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 08:55 PM
To be fair, it happens occasionally, almost always in plane crashes. The bodies are comestiblely recycled at the wake.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (4x6Ix)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:14 PM (Enq6K)
Sounds reasonable, but those texts might be useful evidence in the eventual court proceedings!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (gwPgz)
Happened at the airport, not the bus terminal.
Posted by: fluffy at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (U0v/A)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:13 PM (CNHr1)
uhh... is their house a trailer?
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:12 PM (CNHr1)
Jesus Christ.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (NWiLs)
To be fair, it happens occasionally, almost always in plane crashes. The bodies are comestiblely recycled at the wake.
Good point.
btw, is comestibley a real word?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (FV+Yl)
lose weight on it but health deteriorates because of lack of essential amino acids and protein
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:13 PM (hMwEB)
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Yeah, I don't eat like that but theoretically I guess you can live on carbs. Why you'd want to is a mystery to me.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (gwPgz)
True but at this point I'm sure he has tons of 'crazy' evidence...and blocking her might save him a little grief.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: ace<<<
Well, I have to admit that if I'm suffering hunger pangs I'm going to have difficulty sleeping which may have an effect on my job performance. I haven't tried to stretch a weekday fast beyond that for obvious reasons. Sleep is imperative in my situation.
Posted by: Fritz at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (z74gh)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:14 PM (Enq6K)
Sounds reasonable, but those texts might be useful evidence in the eventual court proceedings!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 09:16 PM (gwPgz)
Yes they very well could.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (gwPgz)
lose weight on it but health deteriorates because of lack of essential amino acids and protein
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:13 PM (hMwEB)
Add nuts/beans and lots of green leafy veggies.
Problem solved.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:18 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:15 PM (Pz4pT)
Sorry, but from (intensely annoying) personal experience, you're very, very, very wrong.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:18 PM (s5o+q)
BTW: one bad thing about the Trump phenomenon is that the elbows quotient here has gone way down.
Posted by: George LeS at September 22, 2017 09:19 PM (+TcCF)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:19 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Here's a good picture of one: http://tinyurl.com/omh6vba
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2017 09:19 PM (5IJky)
Given that this is the standard advice that has been given out for 40 years, I assume, naturally, that obesity and diabetes rates should have fallen during that period.
But wait-- they actually skyrocketed.
I don't understand. I'm all confused.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:19 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:15 PM (Pz4pT)
Sorry, but from (intensely annoying) personal experience, you're very, very, very wrong.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:18 PM (s5o+q)
Wrong about what?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:20 PM (Pz4pT)
Freaking Tom Brady drinks up to 12-13 bottles of water a day. Some mixed with his electrolyte concoction.
I thought I was doing a lot with 6-7 bottles. And I only do that on days that I play tennis.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:20 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:20 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:18 PM (CNHr1)
I'm sure he is a good kid but a hotel room, at least for the night, might be a prudent thing...given her batshit crazy performance in front of the police no less.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:20 PM (Enq6K)
Problem solved.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (Pz4pT)
people think this but the bioavailability of nutrients in plants is really very low
people who eat lots of fresh fruit & veggies generally get IBS or the like eventually
it's taken as a truism that fresh fruit and veggies are healthy for us but there have never been any studies establishing that
you think it's healthy because that's what mom and teacher and govt tell you
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:21 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: fluffy at September 22, 2017 09:21 PM (U0v/A)
But wait-- they actually skyrocketed.
I don't understand. I'm all confused.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:19 PM (8rNrN)
You live in a society that believes in instant gratification, and has a shitty food industry that is constantly bombarding people to eat more crap, the kind of crap that is addictive and fires all your pleasure sensors, and then yeah. Fat nation.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:21 PM (Pz4pT)
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Yeah me too, just pointing out that fruits and veggies are carbs too, although I don't throw them into "that" category when I do my food plan. We haven't had a potato or pasta or a loaf of bread in our house for a year. No sugar either, although I'd kill for a Culver's Turtle Sundae.
My big splurge is Saturday afternoon cocktails. I pay for it too. I can gain two pounds from two drinks. My body hangs onto sugar like a felon on a ball and chain.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:21 PM (lwiT4)
Everyone knows that mental illness is "no respecter of persons," to use a biblical formulation.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 22, 2017 09:22 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:20 PM (Pz4pT)
About what a dietary carbohydrate is.
Hell, if I eat too many carrots I will exceed my own body's carb tolerance.
It really, really, REALLY does depend on the individual. Broad-brush statements are NOT HELPFUL to somebody battling a weight problem.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:22 PM (s5o+q)
Liberals are embracing Little Kim and encouraging him to "join the resistance."
And agree with Lil' Kim that Trump is a dotard, and that life would be best if Trump were in a POW camp. Or dead. They're flexible.
Posted by: shibumi at September 22, 2017 09:22 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:22 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:22 PM (CNHr1)
There are essential fatty acids and amino acids, which means fat and protein (that contain those constituents) are required.
There is no such thing as essential carbs. You can live off fat and protein (but not too much of the latter). You'll go into ketosis, of course, but you can live without any carbs.
Now, plants have fats and proteins into them as well, of course, but you've got to get the essential fatty acids and amino acids.
And that's where "balance" comes in. The proteins and fats in some foods don't have all the essential ones in them.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:23 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:23 PM (bfUpy)
But wait-- they actually skyrocketed.
I don't understand. I'm all confused.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:19 PM (8rNrN)
You live in a society that believes in instant gratification, and has a shitty food industry that is constantly bombarding people to eat more crap, the kind of crap that is addictive and fires all your pleasure sensors, and then yeah. Fat nation.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:21 PM (Pz4pT)
It's like saying "they've been telling us for 40 years to save and invest money, rather than spend it on useless crap, and yet everyone is swimming in debt... I don't get it."
They've also been telling us crack is bad for you. And yet people still smoke it!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:23 PM (Pz4pT)
i hear ya, but the pangs do pass. Right now (at about hour 24 of a fast) I'm hungry from time to time. In my experience it does not interfere with sleep, though.
What I found was that I had gotten used to using late night eating as a way to help fall asleep (cheese tended to make me sleepy), and stopping that habit did make me have trouble sleeping, just because i'd made it a habit.
But once that habit was kicked, fasting didn't interfere with sleep.
Even thin people are carrying 30,000 spare calories on their frames. Fat people are carrying 100,000 or 200,000. Very fat people carry 500,000.
It's not like people do not have the energy stored on their bodies. And the body will start burning it, eventually.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:23 PM (8rNrN)
Tom Brady is getting criticized over his remarks about water intake.
I am living proof that it's okay to drink less than 50 ounces of water a day.
I used to drink lots of water because I was told to do it. All it did was make me pee. I would drink 16 ounces of water, and a half hour later I'd pee 16 ounces of pee.
My body was telling me I was hydrated enough already.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:24 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:24 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:24 PM (NWiLs)
From one 29 year old 80's kid to another : Thank you for the Red Dawn featurette. Truly.
It's like you are reading my soul.
This made my whole month!
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:24 PM (NrE3O)
Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2017 09:25 PM (rmVvL)
Hockey was good today, enough skaters, and two goalies. I'm probably twice the age of about 2/3 of the players.
But I don't take advantage of my age.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2017 09:25 PM (CRLBR)
And agree with Lil' Kim that Trump is a dotard, and that life would be best if Trump were in a POW camp. Or dead. They're flexible.
The Left sided with osama bon laden over Bush, too. Some did, anyway.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:25 PM (IW5NJ)
The fast plan I heard our friend Kimmel used to lose his weight allowed for up to 500 calories consumed on the fast days. I forgot the plan name. Heard him a awhile back on Stern.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:25 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:26 PM (NrE3O)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:26 PM (CNHr1)
Liberals are embracing Little Kim and encouraging him to "join the resistance."
And agree with Lil' Kim that Trump is a dotard, and that life would be best if Trump were in a POW camp. Or dead. They're flexible.
Posted by: shibumi at September 22, 2017 09:22 PM (aT+Bx)
I've seen the MFM all giggly over that nut job calling Trump a dotard. They'd side with Hitler if he came back from the dead and said Trump sucked. Of course that would throw off the whole Trump is Hitler thing
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 09:26 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (hMwEB)
Problem solved.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:17 PM (Pz4pT)
people think this but the bioavailability of nutrients in plants is really very low
people who eat lots of fresh fruit & veggies generally get IBS or the like eventually
it's taken as a truism that fresh fruit and veggies are healthy for us but there have never been any studies establishing that
you think it's healthy because that's what mom and teacher and govt tell you
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:21 PM (hMwEB)
Wow.
Ok. People will believe anything, if they want to bad enough.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (Pz4pT)
In fact, the 350-lbers I had as teammates kind of prove it. These kids were doing an unimaginable amount of exercise every day, and kept getting heavier. If I were to wear an extra 150 lbs of lead every where I went, all day and all night, I'd be destroyed.
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (FV+Yl)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:24 PM (NWiLs)
Correct! Carbs are carbs, fats are fats and sugars are sugars, proteins are proteins no matter the sources.
Alcohol, on the other hand, really throws the body a curve on how to digest it and what to do with it after.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: BurtTC
It is? (narrows eyes, looks at crackpipe in the ashtray)
Oh, okay.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:28 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:28 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at
Oh, my life was normal until that. Shortly after, it was normal again. I don't do drama.
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:28 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (5VlCp)
It's important to give the old liver a workout.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:28 PM (NWiLs)
Careful what you wish for, you syphilitic piece of dried out skank meat.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 22, 2017 09:28 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Jimmy Dimmel at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:28 PM (Enq6K)
You mean a strong, empowered woman?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (IW5NJ)
I promise you won't die
You'll be amazed at how you don't actually need any plants to be healthy
Of course Inuits and Masai have proven this for ages already
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:30 PM (bfUpy)
And the ol' prostate.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (8O3HH)
Well, yeah. Gotta keep the pipes clean.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:30 PM (NWiLs)
And the ol' prostate.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (8O3HH)
That's a totally different discussion.
Posted by: Shep Smith at September 22, 2017 09:30 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:31 PM (hMwEB)
Heck, I do that and I'm damn near 69 years old. Of course even though I'm 6-2 and weigh 180 lbs, I ain't no quarterback.
Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2017 09:31 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:24 PM (NWiLs)
I eat a lot of fruit. Mostly berries. To be honest with you, I basically don't think about the amounts or percentages of anything. I don't count calories. I don't worry about any of it.
I'm healthier than almost everybody.
Seriously. Maybe it is good genes, I don't know. But most of my calories I get from fruits, veggies, nuts and beans. About once a week I'll have some meat. Essentially no dairy.
I exercise regularly, but I'm not a fanatic. I don't know what else to say. I believe people overthink all this stuff, and it makes no sense to me.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:32 PM (Pz4pT)
The fast plan I heard our friend Kimmel used to lose his weight allowed for up to 500 calories consumed on the fast days. I forgot the plan name. Heard him a awhile back on Stern.
a lot of plans are like that. This is called the "fasting-simulating diet." The idea is that if you have a low enough number of calories on "fasting" days, 600 for men, 500 for women, you're effectively fasting (though not actually fasting).
many of the fasting plans -- like Fast Five (fast for five days), 5:2 (eat for five days, fast for 2) or alternate day fasting permit that kind of low level of calorie intake on "fasting" days.
i've done that sort of thing as well as genuine fasts. Some will find that, as Lewis Sinclair said, eating small amounts of food will stimulate the appetite rather than satisfying it, so that the real honest fast turns out easier.
For me it's six of one half a dozen of the other. I do think that maybe the Bone Broth fast is a good idea, just to make sure you're getting some electrolytes in your body (which you shed when you fast or lose weight due to any means).
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:32 PM (8rNrN)
They'd side with Hitler if he came back from the dead and said Trump
sucked. Of course that would throw off the whole Trump is Hitler thing
---
Hitler was actually an exceptional yet misunderstood statesman who, like us, loves Islam, and the holocaust was actually just a plot by the Jooz and never actually happened.
Also...Trump is Worse Than Satan.
Posted by: MFM, if Hitler Returned at September 22, 2017 09:32 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:32 PM (CNHr1)
I'm healthier than almost everybody.
Seriously. Maybe it is good genes, I don't know. But most of my calories I get from fruits, veggies, nuts and beans. About once a week I'll have some meat. Essentially no dairy.
I exercise regularly, but I'm not a fanatic. I don't know what else to say. I believe people overthink all this stuff, and it makes no sense to me.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:32 PM (Pz4pT)
Well, you're lucky.
Not all of us are so lucky.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:33 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at September 22, 2017 09:34 PM (Tyii7)
i've pretty much cut alcohol altogether. I never really loved it, but drank it as a social thing. But I find no one cares if I drink or not, so it's not really a problem just to not drink, even at a bar.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:34 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:34 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (bfUpy)
The fast plan I heard our friend Kimmel used to lose his weight allowed for up to 500 calories consumed on the fast days. I forgot the plan name. Heard him a awhile back on Stern.
A diet that "passed the Kimmel test."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (IqV8l)
In the wild east in the 90s, various things were pointed at me and others in various situations, also mostly at checkpoints, but in those cases there was always the exciting possibility of alcohol and dumbassery causing something to go wrong. Though the driving was the scariest part of those places, and that excludes the mines and bandits, which were issues in some cases.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (CRLBR)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (5VlCp)
It's important to give the old liver a workout.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:28 PM (NWiLs)
Beat it like a red-headed, rented step-liver, I always say.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (Pz4pT)
1. Yes, she really was that beautiful.
2. Yes, she really was the nicest person he ever met.
3. No, they never did.
Posted by: JB1000, EAJ at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (3acYM)
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (8rNrN)
Yeah I just looked it up. He does the 5:2 plan.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: vivi at September 22, 2017 09:36 PM (11H2y)
You can't cure metabolic syndrome on a "normal" diet when that's what got you there in the first place.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 22, 2017 09:36 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 09:36 PM (CNHr1)
The guy who directed it sounds like John Ford and Sam Peckinpath would enjoy doing a movie with.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 22, 2017 09:37 PM (tt7o8)
Well, you're lucky.
Not all of us are so lucky.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:33 PM (s5o+q)
Yes, I am aware there are people who struggle with food allergies and things their bodies just cannot digest well.
I do not envy anyone who has such problems.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:37 PM (Pz4pT)
Stepping off soap box....
Posted by: colfax mingo at September 22, 2017 09:37 PM (DoZ9m)
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:35 PM (8rNrN)
The trick isn't so much knowing what works and what doesn't . . . the trick is to actually stick to what you know works for you.
This is devilishly hard, it seems.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:37 PM (s5o+q)
Mainstream Media 'Triggered' Over Trump Sovereignty Talk, Claims 'America First' Idea Is Russian Propaganda
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 09:38 PM (BiLU+)
three questions he was asked the most about Barbara Eden.
1. Yes, she really was that beautiful.
She was pretty cute in the Voyage To the Bottom of the Sea movie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 09:39 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:39 PM (NrE3O)
Mainstream Media 'Triggered' Over Trump Sovereignty Talk, Claims 'America First' Idea Is Russian Propaganda
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 09:38 PM (BiLU+)
Just when you think we might be finally approaching Peak Stupid . . .
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:39 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45
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It focuses one's attention wonderfully. Also tends to slow any movement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2017 09:39 PM (5IJky)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books!
I'm a little confused here. Is this political commentary or diet suggestions?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 22, 2017 09:39 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:39 PM (LuKE7)
I think of Churchill, an extremely high-functioning, world-history-changing, alcoholic.
And the sage advice (Animal House?) - "I advise you to begin drinking heavily"
Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2017 09:39 PM (CRLBR)
Mainstream Media 'Triggered' Over Trump Sovereignty Talk, Claims 'America First' Idea Is Russian Propaganda
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 09:38 PM (BiLU+)
Sure, makes perfect sense
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 09:40 PM (auHtY)
She's no Elizabeth Shoo.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Who is no Leah Remini.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:40 PM (NrE3O)
I got shot at going into a bar by some random guy on a motorcycle that just got kicked out. Bullets hitting the stucco wall above my head. Remember having to brush stucco debris out of my hair.
Posted by: Jack Sock
That's worth a Purple Heart!
Posted by: John Kerry at September 22, 2017 09:41 PM (IqV8l)
Stepping off soap box....
Posted by: colfax mingo at September 22, 2017 09:37 PM (DoZ9m)
Excellent.
I've dealt with weight gain, and the answer every time is the same: simplify, reduce, and get rid of ALL the junk that the food pushers push.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2017 09:41 PM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:41 PM (s5o+q)
Stepping off soap box....
Posted by: colfax mingo at September 22, 2017 09:37 PM (DoZ9m)
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I'm triggered by this obviously white supremacy speech. j/k
It really is astonishing at how unnatural most of our lives have become. As I've noted before, I think our only hope now is a cataclysmic thinning of the herd.
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 09:41 PM (BiLU+)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2017 09:27 PM (5VlCp)
It's important to give the old liver a workout.
Posted by: Insomniac
It's a form of homeopathy. Yes, you REALLY need to drink sometimes. Like now, and maybe later, again and again.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 22, 2017 09:41 PM (S6Pax)
Weigh-in on Monday will show him down a pound and me up two. When we started our healthy-us plan, he was in the 200's. He'll probably break into the 170's this week. I'm so proud of him that I would like to kill him. Because I'm going nowhere fast.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:41 PM (lwiT4)
http://www.baen.com/Chapters/9781481482561/9781481482561.htm?blurb
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 22, 2017 09:42 PM (tt7o8)
Leah Thompson is still a fine looking woman.
She's no Elizabeth Shoo.
Posted by: Soothsayer
==
Who is no Leah Remini.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:40 PM (NrE3O)
She's no Betty Boop....trust me.
Posted by: Bob Boop at September 22, 2017 09:42 PM (n3hky)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:43 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:43 PM (NrE3O)
Posted by: colfax mingo
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I confess that I am of the calories in/calories out school. A balanced diet of fewer calories than you are hopefully expending via *reasonable* exercise. Bip, healthy weight loss.
I understand that many will tell me that this perspective is flawed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2017 09:43 PM (5IJky)
Posted by: Bogart at September 22, 2017 09:44 PM (GzeOI)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:44 PM (NrE3O)
Nah , a hair wound is no where near as severe as a splinter.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:44 PM (LuKE7)
My diet plan is very effective: I eat my own shit. A pound or two of that a day and the weight stays off!
Also I love Lil Fat Fuck sexually and would gladly eat my own shit after he blew his load up my ass. Thank you.
Posted by: Chelsea Handjob at September 22, 2017 09:44 PM (qul7b)
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 09:44 PM (Ejylv)
I think they mean "Feature"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2017 09:46 PM (BoMuO)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
And she was married to Michael Ansara, who was the terrorist guy with the grenade there in the movie.
He was pretty studly and badass. So, yeah, I don't think anybody messed with little Barbara.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 22, 2017 09:46 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 22, 2017 09:46 PM (rgBEJ)
Posted by: Bogart at September 22, 2017 09:47 PM (GzeOI)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2017 09:47 PM (CRLBR)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 09:47 PM (NrE3O)
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 22, 2017 09:47 PM (rgBEJ)
I think they mean "Feature"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2017 09:46 PM (BoMuO)
Accidentally my pasty white ass.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 09:47 PM (NWiLs)
I think they mean "Feature"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2017 09:46 PM (BoMuO)
I suppose they also voted accidentally too?
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:48 PM (Enq6K)
I understand that many will tell me that this perspective is flawed.
...
older doctors still believe this, younger doctors do not.
what many of you keep pushing forward as "the settled science" is in a period of rapid rejection by the medical community. If your doctor is 60 or older, he still probably pushes this snake oil. If he's 45 or younger, he probably doesn't.
a lot of people think the stuff I talk about is weird. But I have younger doctors, one who is explicitly keto/paleo and one who isn't explicit about that, but he seems cool with my choices.
The things some people think are "radical new ideas" are in fact rapidly becoming the mainstream, bog-standard sort of advice.
There has been a longstanding debate on this since the mid 2000s, and the Calories In Calories Out model is losing, and in fact is coming to the point where we can say "has lost."
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:48 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 09:48 PM (Ejylv)
about 10% body fat and having a bit of a hard time without eating more.
I feel I am incredibly weak, but my trainer disagrees. My dead lifts
are about my body weight. I am buying a power Rack, bar and weights
tomorrow so I can do more between training sessions. So far so good I
guess.
Posted by: Bogart at September 22, 2017 09:44 PM (GzeOI)
++++++++++++++
I'm fat. I'm happy and expect to die soon. Have fun with the commies!
Posted by: El Gordo at September 22, 2017 09:48 PM (n3hky)
Since Conan was mentioned...
here is an awesome soundtrack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xixSWWN0Lfg
Red Sonja
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:49 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:49 PM (LuKE7)
I suppose they also voted accidentally too?
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:48 PM
Multiple times.
Accidentally.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 09:49 PM (IqV8l)
Schmidt says 220 non-citizens have registered in the last 12 years and 90 of them actually voted.
All Dem, I'm sure.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2017 09:50 PM (BoMuO)
???
Why fast at all at 10% bodyfat?
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:50 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: ace
________
Revelation. I guess maybe I'll stop sending tweets to the New Jersey Devils about how they should run their hockey team.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 22, 2017 09:50 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: vivi at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:48 PM
Multiple times.
Accidentally.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 09:49 PM
Sorta like those poor souls who fall down while being arrested.
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (LuKE7)
Accidentally.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 09:49 PM (IqV8l)
Philadelphia...the city of brotherly accidents.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Sporkatus
He also wrote the screenplay to "Roughriders", the mini-series where Tom Berenger played Teddy Roosevelt.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (CRLBR)
Posted by: Cjw at September 22, 2017 09:52 PM (KQuMS)
hah, no! I just recently heard of some other weird biological type diet though, though I forget what that was.
Blood type. Huh, sounds kooky, but I'll look it up.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:52 PM (8rNrN)
Feds think misdemeanors are chickenshit, & the law specifically says that a "good faith mistake" concerning eligibility is an affirmative defense to the (chickenshit) charge anyway.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 09:53 PM (Ejylv)
Posted by: Bogart at September 22, 2017 09:53 PM (GzeOI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 22, 2017 09:53 PM (tt7o8)
Hey ACE, I assume you're aware that Margaret Court - one of 5 greatest female tennis players ever - has been booted from the tennis club in Australia she'd been a member of for years because of her views about gay marriage.
I guess she should of beaten Bobby Riggs before he intentionally tanked* match against King due to tremendous gambling debts.
* that RUMOUR has been around SoCal tennis circles forevermore. Just sayin'
Posted by: The Invisible Hand at September 22, 2017 09:53 PM (jsvaD)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (LuKE7)
That one was big about 10 years ago. Don't hear about it much anymore.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:54 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2017 09:54 PM (BoMuO)
It's like saying that a given car will always get the same mileage if driven the same way, and that all cars that are roughly comparable and capable of the same or even similar mileage will get the same mileage driven the same way on the same drive.
Anyone who knows the first thing about automobiles will recognize this as horseshit, and that's without autos being as able to regulate their own usage of fuels and power output as the human body. Hell, a car has to stay close to a really tight lambda per amount of air ingested to even run, and that amount of air ingested is pretty damn similar on a similar drive driven similarly. But no. Simply not the case.
Now assume that the fuel system can run on gas, kerosene, whiskey, thinner, leaded avgas, coconut oil, even butter. Joules are are joules out, right?
Well, no. That assumption assumes that the hypothetical car, or rather, human body is actually magic. That is a very dumb assumption.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 22, 2017 09:54 PM (rgBEJ)
Posted by: Shemp Smith at September 22, 2017 09:54 PM (qul7b)
And the ol' prostate.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:29 PM (8O3HH)
Smoking toughens up your lungs.
Posted by: rickl at September 22, 2017 09:54 PM (sdi6R)
They seem to go like this:
Your blood type is X.
Then they list the foods you can eat.
Those are foods you hate and never want to eat. Ever.
Look! You've lost weight because you're not eating foods you hate! In fact, you're not eating at all! Success!!!
Posted by: shibumi at September 22, 2017 09:54 PM (aT+Bx)
It also ignores the fact that those biochemical processes are not 100% efficient.
It's a particularly ignorant assertion, actually. A lot like "carbon dioxide makes the world hotter" in fact.
Yeah but . . . it ain't quite that simple, friend.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 09:55 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2017 09:55 PM (BoMuO)
This Q episode with Riker getting Q powers has to be the worst episode. Terrible in every way, especially acting and story.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:55 PM (IW5NJ)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:51 PM (LuKE7)
That one was big about 10 years ago. Don't hear about it much anymore.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:54 PM (Enq6K)
In Transylvania?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 09:56 PM (auHtY)
CICO is trivially true in the sense that Laws of Thermodynamics are always holding.
Imagine running a gasoline car on diesel fuel. Or trying to. It would run horribly, if at all. But energy in would still equal energy out. The laws of thermodynamics would hold. As they always do.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 09:57 PM (8O3HH)
Yep. For the reasons I raised in a thread a couple of days ago - to wit, Riker is actually just a Plot Device of Implausible Suaveness and is not actually a character qua character.
To examine what a plot device would do given godlike powers is... kind of dumb.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 22, 2017 09:58 PM (rgBEJ)
See 399.
They weren't being prosecuted BEFORE Obama or NOW under PDT, either.
ICE agents issue verbal warnings. The law is written to be a bad joke.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 09:58 PM (Ejylv)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 22, 2017 09:55 PM (IW5NJ)
Every time my husband sees Wil Wheaton now, he always says 'He should have taken Riker up on the person he changed Wesley into.'
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 09:58 PM (Enq6K)
It's not supported by any science but it does go to your theory, which I concur, is that something causes people to respond differently to the same diet.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 09:59 PM (LuKE7)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2017 09:59 PM (BoMuO)
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 09:19 PM (8rNrN)
In fairness, you are leaving out one of the variables that changed.
The government decided that fat was evil and pushed people to shift to a high-carb/low-fat diet.
That alone is probably responsible for the increase in obesity and diabetes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 22, 2017 10:00 PM (wYseH)
Ryk Spoor has gone magical girl show...
http://www.baen.com/Chapters/A9781481482820/A9781481482820.htm
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 22, 2017 10:00 PM (tt7o8)
Reminding me of a horrible CSI episode with an anorexic who was weighing everything, because mass in should equal or be less than mass out - and it (obviously) didn't work because a lay understanding of conservation of mass was so very extremely wrong.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 22, 2017 10:00 PM (rgBEJ)
We'll of course they are.
Just like all the trendy new teaching methods are better than the old ways.
Colfax mingo Johnson was right.
Rarghrargh.
Posted by: teej at September 22, 2017 10:01 PM (l1wsb)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 10:01 PM (NWiLs)
Less in, more out is guaranteed to work. It is also nearly guaranteed to be a slow and hard process, so people will abandon it to seek out what they think will be fast and easy.
The lack of willpower or desire for shortcuts of some people attempting it does not invalidate it.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:01 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 10:05 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2017 10:06 PM (Gv+zt)
No, the thoroughly idiotic lay version of thermodynamics propagated by many through the years is what's snake oil. The human body is not a single column ledger, and calorie uses are not predictably gauged how you think they are - with ordinary flux in workload uses of calories from such things as homeostasis often dwarfing even moderately difficult changes, let along easy ones.
But you do you.
Posted by: Sporkatus at September 22, 2017 10:07 PM (rgBEJ)
Less in, more out is guaranteed to work. It is also nearly guaranteed to be a slow and hard process, so people will abandon it to seek out what they think will be fast and easy.
The lack of willpower or desire for shortcuts of some people attempting it does not invalidate it.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:01 PM (gDSJf)
How much of the "calories in" is being excreted unused rather than being digested and used by the body?
Go take your "lack of willpower" and stick it. "Willpower" has very little to do with obesity, because the hormonal urges will easily overpower someone's will. Trust me. I've felt it happen to me. It is (from what I hear) almost EXACTLY like the compulsion of an addiction. You really, truly can't help yourself from having another handful of chips. It's horrifying while it's happening to you but you really can't stop yourself. The only effective way to really avoid it is not to start in the first place.
On to the ONT.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 10:07 PM (s5o+q)
I agree. Riker was the beta male, and beyond that had no character of his own.
Say there was a Kobayashi Maru test. I can imagine how Major Kira might handle it. Same with O'Brien. Or Picard, or Worf. Even Wesley (lol). I have no goddamn clue how Riker would approach it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 22, 2017 10:08 PM (6FqZa)
How about actually fixing the financial problem instead of "kick the can " gimmicks?
Posted by: cosmic at September 22, 2017 08:08 PM (uc45P)
This is from way upthread... Imma gonna respond anyway.
They want us to breed now because they want us to make more people to fill the bottom tier of the government's Ponzi scheme. They don't have quite enough dupes right now to support the top of the pyramid 'cause we stopped having babies.
If I were a millennial I'd be furious.
Posted by: Prudie, sometimes a G. Gnome at September 22, 2017 10:11 PM (JIzji)
Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2017 09:21 PM (lwiT4)
I feel your pain, grammie. Beer affects me that way. I splurge occasionally. Gains on the scale the next day. Every. Damn. Time.
Posted by: altered states at September 22, 2017 10:12 PM (JrTRI)
Less in, more out is guaranteed to work. It is also nearly guaranteed to be a slow and hard process, so people will abandon it to seek out what they think will be fast and easy.
The lack of willpower or desire for shortcuts of some people attempting it does not invalidate it.
...
Right, right, right. And if your carbueretor is faulty, and doesn't burn gasoline properly, then that car will, per the law of thermodyamics, pump out the same amount of energy as a well-functioning engine? Right...?
You don't know anything. When someone eats, the body can use that energy for three things: Moving the body around, *slightly increasing core body temperature* (which really burns up a lot of energy-- maintaining basic core body functions uses 10x as much energy as even a hard workout), or storing it as fat.
What does the Law of Thermodynamics dictate that a body do with the energy, bub?
Oh that's right -- it doesn't say a damn thing about it. Whether you fritter away calories with fidgeting and puttering, or your body just gooses your core temperature by 0.1 degree F, or if it puts it all into fat -- the Law of Thermodynamics is followed.
But the first two will result in maintaing the same weight, and the last will result in weight gain.
And which the body does is not dictated by the law of thermodynamics but one's hormonal response to food.
People who are ignorant like to simplify things down to their low level of understanding.
Read a fucking book for God's sake.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:13 PM (8rNrN)
Do you think physics doesn't apply to biology?
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:14 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 10:14 PM (tIhIY)
In an ultimate sense it does; no calories in and you die, but biological organisms are much more complex than a firebox.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 10:18 PM (LTHVh)
The way I usually see it phrased is that the body is not a Bunsen burner (which is what a calorimeter is). A cord of wood has mad calories but our bodies respond to it differently than a fire would.
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 10:19 PM (tIhIY)
He doesn't know what he doesn't know. He likes to keep things simple so he can understand them, and if that means being completely wrong, that's fine. At least he gets to keep stomping his foot about how everything can be explained by the one physical law he's heard of.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:19 PM (8rNrN)
and cows can process calories from grass whereas humans get near-zero calories out of grass.
BUT THE LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS!!!!
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:20 PM (8rNrN)
starting strength trainer. I'm older (55) so I'm using "The Barbell
Prescription" for my guide at the suggestion of my trainer. It's
following Rippetoe's methods. I'm on my 3rd week after going for a
couple of months of fasting 2-3 days, eating 2-3 days repeat. Low carb
for me for the last year or two. I'm at about 10% body fat and having a
bit of a hard time without eating more. I feel I am incredibly weak,
but my trainer disagrees. My dead lifts are about my body weight. I am
buying a power Rack, bar and weights tomorrow so I can do more between
training sessions. So far so good I guess.
Posted by: Bogart at September 22, 2017 09:44 PM (GzeOI)
Good for you! SS is a wonderful program and an extremely valuable resource for Masters lifters (I hate saying Senior or Elderly).Stay with the program long enough to go through your full linear progression. And don't worry about the food, just eat to recover properly.
Posted by: browndog at September 22, 2017 10:20 PM (bGMOs)
If the energy consumed by the body exceeds the energy introduced over a long period of time you will lose weight.
You're focusing on short term effects, I'm talking long-term. As long as your body is healthy, it cannot keep storing energy while maintaining an energy deficit. Homeostasis won't allow you to drop your core temperature 5 degrees over a year in favor of consuming fat reserves.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:20 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 10:21 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:19 PM (8rNrN)
When I worked at a university, building the computer network, and various Ph.D's in unrelated fields would offer (heh) suggestions on how to go about it, I realized one of the fundamental truths:
"Those of you who THINK you know everything are annoying those of us who do."
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 10:22 PM (s5o+q)
And the laws of thermodynamics hold in both cases. No one (in their right mind) doubts the laws of physics hold, Sjg.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 10:23 PM (8O3HH)
you're an idiot. You have no idea how many calories are expended on just basic bodily housekeeping functions.
A five degree body temperature drop? You mean -- like death?!
Can you explain what insulin is, and what would you would expect in two different people, one with a high level of resting insulin, and one with a low one, as far as weight gain or loss?
Does the LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS tell you what this critical hormone does?
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:23 PM (8rNrN)
Does the LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS explain this, sjg? What's your explanation -- how can someone eat huge amounts of food at yet wither away until he literally dies from wasting?
It's almost as if the human body is more complex than your simplistic conception of a burn-box.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:27 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2017 10:30 PM (yKAUL)
I am aware of hormonal responses in the body to regulate glucose and glucogen which is why I mentioned homeostasis.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:33 PM (gDSJf)
yeah I tried something like that, drinking a liter of very cold water (like out of the freezer, almost frozen) to help force the core temperature burning factor up, but it's such a pain in the ass. And you actually feel the drain from having to expend energy to heat your core.
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:34 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Jose at September 22, 2017 10:36 PM (JcRMF)
Posted by: Jose at September 22, 2017 10:36 PM (JcRMF)
right so if your body pumps out too much insulin in response to blood glucose after eating, and pushes that glucose right into fat and also reduces your available energy (by pushing too much glucose out of the blood, and therefore making you feel tired), what does the LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS say will happen to your bodyfat percentage? Given that you're immediately pushing otherwise-usable energy into fat cells, and reducing your capacity for expending energy through movement?
Posted by: ace at September 22, 2017 10:37 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 10:39 PM (LTHVh)
>> of energy
I'm sure you know that a calorie is a unit of energy, most commonly used in dietary things. What are commonly called "calories" is in fact the kilocalorie, which is defined as the energy required to raise the temperature of 1 kilgram of water by one degree Celsius (at one standard atmosphere pressure).
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 10:40 PM (8O3HH)
I used to do a thing called 'tempering'. I was overseas on a warehouse job. Bone-chilling, damp cold. At the end of my shower, I would turn off the hot water and stay under as long as I could take it. (These guys had some seriously cold water!) Thirty seconds may have been my record.
Anywho, for the next six hours or so, I was warm as could be. Metabolism was thru the roof. A fascinating technique that I don't ever want to have to do again.
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 10:41 PM (7ulel)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2017 10:42 PM (yKAUL)
I am aware of hormonal responses in the body to regulate glucose and glucogen which is why I mentioned homeostasis.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:33 PM (gDSJf)
I respectfully suggest that now would be a good time to retire gracefully from the field.
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 10:46 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 22, 2017 10:46 PM (17QyB)
I remember reading something about "cold stress". In modern First World countries, we're getting pussified with the climate control.
And it was about how doing "cold stress", getting out in cold weather and making your body do more work to maintain temperature was a good thing, and could help shift things back to the fat burning side.
Then there was something about "whole body cryotherapy", which is exposing the body to extremely cold air ( -100C) for a couple minutes.
That has other uses, but I remember something about weight loss studies with it.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 22, 2017 10:48 PM (8O3HH)
"Ultimate Diet 2.0"?
"The Ketogenic Diet: A Complete Guide..."
"Rapid Fat Loss"
etc. etc. ?
You should.
You really should.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 10:49 PM (NrE3O)
Yes, but obviously the calories present in what is consumed do not equate to a 1-1 conversion of energy stored and used in the body since it is dependent on digestive properties which is why I avoided discussing calories.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:50 PM (gDSJf)
I know someone who does it for Olympic athletes' recovery after training. Similar to the ice baths that many, many sports use. Have also seen studies that it's purely in their heads (which is fine, as long as it works, right?)
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2017 10:53 PM (kuiuS)
Why isn't the conversion rate at least constant? Laws and all being so?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 10:56 PM (LTHVh)
DNP will too.
If you enjoy insecticide
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 10:56 PM (NrE3O)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 10:57 PM (LTHVh)
Less in, more out is guaranteed to work.
And then:
Yes, but obviously the calories present in what is consumed do not equate to a 1-1 conversion of energy stored and used in the body since it is dependent on digestive properties which is why I avoided discussing calories.
Posted by: Sjg at September 22, 2017 10:50 PM (gDSJf)
So, less in does not necessarily correlate to more out? There's more involved than the "thermodynamics" that you invoked in yet another comment?
What, precisely, are you arguing for, or against?
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 11:02 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2017 11:04 PM (s5o+q)
(i.e. calories in = calories out).
But it seems clear the body can do different things with the inputs, and it is possible to manage that to some degree. And each body is probably predisposed to some different responses. The ketogenic diet thing sounds interesting ... certainly one approach.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2017 11:12 PM (yKAUL)
I had a nickname for her : Greasy-Face!
I'm sure men look at bleached blonde basic give-it-outs differently, but I noticed that she always had a greasy film on the top of her skin.
Yuck.
Posted by: True the Note at September 22, 2017 11:54 PM (HLTe8)
Either the child turns out normal, in which case the poor kid has to deal with their crazy useless idiot parents, or they turn out like mom and dad, in which case the world has yet another oxygen thief.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 23, 2017 03:25 AM (2yngH)
Since when did cops ever have "orders" that superseded their oaths to order and their sworn allegiance to the Constitution, Law, and Order ?!!!
Very disrecpectful to fantastic police people, worldwide.
Posted by: Barny Fife at September 23, 2017 03:41 AM (0cipj)
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Posted by: GOP Blowhard at September 23, 2017 06:40 PM (jPViN)
Thanks for referencing his stuff. His McDonald's challenge was fun.
Posted by: Miisha Moon at September 24, 2017 07:42 PM (oOYAK)
Never...ever...post a waste of time article like that again. Please. I think in France it's called enui. Here in the US it's called a 10,000 word POS. By the time I got through 7500 words I wanted to vomit projectile. This has nothing to do with what the couple did. It was the writing.
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My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)