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John "Build the Dang Fence" McCain Liesplains His Obamacare Reform No-Vote: I Won't Support Any Law That Democrats Don't Support Too
Not that surprising to see a Democrat defending the interests of the Democrat Party.
Strange that a vain, narcissistic man who claims to be The Only Straight-Shootin' Maverick Truth-Teller in DC would lie about his actual party loyalty, though.It’s worth noting, by the way, that his rationale is rather bizarre. His key point -- one he reiterated in his tweet announcing the decision-- is this:We should not be content to pass health care legislation on a party-line basis, as Democrats did when they rammed Obamacare through Congress in 2009. If we do so, our success could be as short-lived as theirs when the political winds shift, as they regularly do. The issue is too important, and too many lives are at risk, for us to leave the American people guessing from one election to the next whether and how they will acquire health insurance. A bill of this impact requires a bipartisan approach.Fine, but if so, what was literally all of this about? It’s been clear since early this year, when Democrats rebuffed the original Cassidy-Collins bill, that no Democrat would support a repeal or deep reform of Obamacare. If McCain sincerely believes this, he should have been a firm no from the start, and shouldn't have teased everyone by flirting with support for the various bills the Senate considered.
Paul (and even Collins/Murkowski) ostensibly opposed it on substance. Per his stmt, McCain opposed it only b/c Democrats don't like it.
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) September 22, 2017
Yup. Remember when Gov. Ducey's approval was supposedly what mattered? Lol. McCain doesn't want to repeal Obamacare. https://t.co/gbbdS03Rsb
— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) September 22, 2017
When people say "it shouldn't be done on a party line basis" they are saying that obamacare shouldn't be repealed https://t.co/0tZ1VEBnL4
— Ben McDonald (@Bmac0507) September 22, 2017
Thank you @SenJohnMcCain for being a hero again and again and now AGAIN
— Jimmy Kimmel (@jimmykimmel) September 22, 2017
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Secret Agent Valerie Plame at September 22, 2017 04:16 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 22, 2017 04:16 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 22, 2017 04:16 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: Don Q. at September 22, 2017 04:16 PM (NgKpN)
1: Viet Nam
2: Losing against Obama
3: Voting no on Obamacare repeal
Posted by: Secret Agent Valerie Plame at September 22, 2017 04:17 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:17 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: WTF at September 22, 2017 04:17 PM (7GtJm)
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 22, 2017 04:17 PM (6n332)
Posted by: Lindsay Graham at September 22, 2017 04:18 PM (/0IRq)
Posted by: Candy Girl at September 22, 2017 04:18 PM (597Fz)
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xttKs)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 22, 2017 04:16 PM (XFue2)
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Yep Yep Yep.
I think Claire McCaskill was lying about hers too.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 22, 2017 04:19 PM (vg8iE)
How about Pussy Hat Republicans?
Posted by: Gaz Chaud at September 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xhWFN)
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 22, 2017 04:20 PM (597Fz)
The choice was between a Democrat party line bill and a Republican party line bill.
Posted by: the joos at September 22, 2017 04:20 PM (h/uSM)
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He cares because he's not going to shell out HIS money to pay for someone. His job is to "raise awareness."
YOURS is to pay.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 22, 2017 04:20 PM (vg8iE)
The only reason the edgier (and smarter)Carolla is not is the humorless yentas running the studios.
Posted by: James at September 22, 2017 04:20 PM (jLjhc)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at September 22, 2017 04:21 PM (/0IRq)
Posted by: qzy at September 22, 2017 04:22 PM (WhCLc)
Ship the fvcker to his beloved Mexico, though the farther south the better. They deserve him. We don't.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:22 PM (8gDQu)
#Goaheadcancer,takethisone
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:22 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 22, 2017 04:22 PM (597Fz)
Posted by: Max Power at September 22, 2017 04:22 PM (q177U)
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He makes $10M a year. He could pay the premiums for 50K-100K kids every year without missing a dime.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:23 PM (UUvSq)
wut
"If we do this, then it could be un-done, and therefore we shouldn't do it."
No, really.
wut
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 22, 2017 04:23 PM (u0s1P)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:23 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2017 04:23 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2017 04:23 PM (na0uG)
He is a senile old fool and should have retired 15 years ago when he was 65. He did not. But when he hit 75 if he had been working for the average private company THEY would have forced him to retire.
he needs to just go away.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 22, 2017 04:24 PM (mpXpK)
punishment on McCain...they will not lift a finger. All about protecting
each other. "The voters have no choice!"
War hero dying of cancer? The guy's bulletproof.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 22, 2017 04:24 PM (O5Q3r)
Strip them of the cover, remove their committee assignments. They were willing to punish the Freedom Caucus, make them enforce discipline on the left wing too. It would be far more productive with 53 cohesive Republicans than it would be with sixty. With sixty there would be the expectation of breaking filibusters which of course can't happen with RINOs and thus a disillusioned base. And with a real threat to clean house every two years so long as The People were willing to do their part the routine "unexpected" betrayals would quickly end.
Posted by: John Morris at September 22, 2017 04:24 PM (sCRhB)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:24 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (/0IRq)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel, Eating a Bag of Cancerous Dicks at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (vg8iE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (na0uG)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:17 PM (Enq6K)
Does one kabuki actor get pissed when another kabuki actor says his lines?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (Mouru)
McCain is a joke. Pelosi is a joke. Waters is a joke. They should be NO WHERE NEAR power because they're corrupt and they're dangerous.
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (xttKs)
Anyway, fun factoid of the day.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (u0s1P)
Posted by: MAGA at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (BcWbQ)
Posted by: Cicero
Fistbump.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 22, 2017 04:25 PM (na0uG)
You're better men than me.
or John McCain.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (8gDQu)
Don't tell me.
It's not funny to mock cancer just because it's afflicted with John McCain.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (Q6Lfj)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (ul9CR)
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A couple pounds of coke?
A few hundred hookers?
A couple dicks?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (vg8iE)
Kerry, McVain, Gore, Shillary.
Have stone tears on their cheeks, faces all squinched up and crying...
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (NrE3O)
Oh! DC is broken!!!! That's an oldie but goodie!
Drain the swamp and DC is broken!!
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (6fmef)
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About 40 million uninsured before Obamacare.
About 40 million uninsured today.
And all for the low, low price of $3-$5 trillion over the next decade.
Thanks for holding us, our children, and our grandchildren hostage for the rest of our lives, maverick.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:27 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: WTF
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How? exact severe punishment how?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (tt7o8)
Late night hosting should be assigned on a bipartisan basis. By which I mean only I support whatever the humorless yentas want.
Posted by: John McCain at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (EhfP/)
Because its virtue signalling to show he supposedly cares for disadvantaged people and because he sees it as step to the Holy Grail of single payer
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (N7KlP)
Posted by: John McCain at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (EhfP/)
Posted by: Bob Dole at September 22, 2017 04:29 PM (FTlwv)
Posted by: MAGA at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (BcWbQ)
That's not entirely true. JD Hayworth was a perfectly good primary candidate but lots of "conservatives" went apeshit over some paid ads he did while out of Congress - which was all total bullshit.
Hayworth's loss had nothing to do with a rigged primary but solely due to idiot Republicans.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:29 PM (8gDQu)
http://tinyurl.com/ybua3fdt
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:30 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Hikaru at September 22, 2017 04:30 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (W+vEI)
Hayworth's loss had nothing to do with a rigged primary but solely due to idiot Republicans.
McCain's team was running anti-Hayworth ads on Hayworth's radio talk show to goad Hayworth into running.
It worked.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (Q6Lfj)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (m9X4Y)
That he can stroke his #NeverTrump erogenous zone is just icing on his cake.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 22, 2017 04:16 PM (XFue2)
There's 100% no doubt in my mind he was lying about that.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (CMbMd)
Dunce.
Premiums are going up between 25-50% and companies are pulling out of some markets altogether. If Trump stops the subsidies the whole thing comes crashing down.
But Kimmel says McCains a hero. So let's clap like seals and forget our families financial ruin because he's too dumb to figure it out.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (6fmef)
Hahahhahahabahah.....
Posted by: Mitch "Donatello" McConnell at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (EhfP/)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Diogenes at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (rmVvL)
Posted by: IC at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (a0IVu)
After cramming the biggest shit sandwich ever down the taxpayer throat, 10% of Americans STILL don't have health insurance and everyone else who did is paying MORE for LESS.
Shove your bipartisan fuck-all up your ass, McCain.
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (xttKs)
Here's the situation, in the UK which has the combined populations of CA and TX:
http://tinyurl.com/ycplzw4v
Obamacare will fail naturally, and in the process hurt a large portion of America.
Then, Bernie will save us with Single Payer, and Republicans will embrace it.
And our healthcare system will die, as will many, many people who need treatment. But Important Democrat Politicians will be given priority on treatment, and if you're really lucky, when you're scheduled to be put down like a dog who is sick, maybe, just maybe, John Kerry will get your liver!
Posted by: shibumi at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (ghofu)
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (cS/ge)
Answers, anyone?
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (zSVEm)
Repeal the fucking thing and start over. Can't Arizona recall this senile old clown?
Posted by: Timon at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (NTM5E)
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: MAGA at September 22, 2017 04:26 PM (BcWbQ)
That's not entirely true. JD Hayworth was a perfectly good primary candidate but lots of "conservatives" went apeshit over some paid ads he did while out of Congress - which was all total bullshit.
Hayworth's loss had nothing to do with a rigged primary but solely due to idiot Republicans.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:29 PM (8gDQu)
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Like I said "if". His monetary advantage over JD was more than enough. Not to mention control over the local party. His ad advantage was able to paint JD as some sort of fringe choice hypocrite.
Posted by: MAGA at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (BcWbQ)
Of course, Chester McTurtle will fvck that up do. Because, incompetence. And "days ending in the letter 'Y'"
Posted by: DocJ at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (NYS7S)
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (TnEB8)
It worked.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (Q6Lfj)
I'm telling you that it wasn't just that. Don't you remember a lot of the threads, here? There were a lot of people who went big time anti-Hayworth, based only on that one little issue (which wasn't even a problem).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: John McCain at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (EhfP/)
Ok, this made me laugh.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (xJa6I)
In SC if no candidate gets more than 50% of the vote a runoff is required between the top two candidates. That keep assholes with a big bankroll for running phony candidate to dilute the opposition.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (mpXpK)
So would you support a straight repeal, without any replacement, to put us back to where we were before Obama and Pelosi rammed Obamacare through without a single Republican vote? That should force the Democrats to bargain in good faith, right?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
For whatever reason, McCain is on the other side and has been for a long time.
Posted by: cool breeze at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (TKf/P)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (NWiLs)
it is voting to UNDO a partisan Dem only failed program.
But his brain has been rotten for a long time ...
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (yKAUL)
Much more constructively than that ..."
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (jETL9)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (mpXpK)
About 40 million uninsured today.
And all for the low, low price of $3-$5 trillion over the next decade.
Thanks for holding us, our children, and our grandchildren hostage for the rest of our lives, maverick.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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That's not correct.. the uninsured rate dropped from almost 17% before Obamacare to less than 12% today..
But.. it's a fuck of a lot of money for such a small percentage of Americans..
Those drops cover all the Medicaid expansion, BTW..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (so+oy)
Because there are no term limits, they do lots of insider trading and they're bribed by special interests which aren't represented by conservatism.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: rammajamma at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (UH7fg)
But all hail John McCain, and give him the Douche of the Decade award.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2017 04:35 PM (6fmef)
He was the nominee.
I'd say we dodge a bullet, but we didn't.
They win even when we win. Until Trump.
Thus the freakout.
Posted by: simplemind at September 22, 2017 04:35 PM (A8buY)
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I was wondering what Trump's next move on this will be.
It maybe to do nothing.
I don't think he want's to waste political capital on it. He'll need it for tax reform.
Hopefully Trump realizes what prior commentor mentioned: Dem's effectively have control of the Senate. Act accordingly.
Trump needs the R pickup's in the 2018 election to get his agenda through. The problem is that waiting for 2018 with no legislative victories will hurt their chances in getting those wins.
God I hate the GOPe.
I only keep my sanity by remembering the WI/Walker model: 1. Go Bold, 2. get majority, 3. replace squishes with true conservatives, 4.win!
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 04:35 PM (G0vdT)
have been told that insurance programs for children of low income
families exist and have existed before Obamacare and will exist after
Obamacare.
He's high on the authority that his newly-minted victim status gives him.
He's now looking out for all the little people because he's navigated one particular health crisis with the assistance of his Hollywood $$$. Then it's been reinforced by all the praise he's received for this. In his mind, it's now bigger than him: people *need* him to maintain their own kids' coverage.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2017 04:35 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (N7KlP)
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I take him at his word. Ponder that this multi-millionaire spokesman is less informed on these programs than Trayvon Martin's girlfriend.
It's pretty amazing to think that Smart and Super Informed People can go their entire lives without ever hearing about Medicaid and/or CHIP, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:35 PM (UUvSq)
http://tinyurl.com/ybua3fdt
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:30 PM (PY9jH)
Santorum unfortunately looks like the dipshit in elementary school that it took a concerted effort not to beat the fuck out of. But his conservative instincts are superior to most of the better looking turds we end up having to vote for.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2017 04:35 PM (y7DUB)
I remember Meggie Mac always complaining about Obamacare costs increasing 150% in AZ.
How's McCain's butt taste now, AZ?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:35 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (+7evP)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (ghofu)
They will be having martinis together and feeding each other olives by 7pm.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (XFue2)
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (TnEB8)
I wouldn't say lots of people. I would say 4 or 5 at the most.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (N7KlP)
Gullible, naive, indifferent naive people; and those are the good ones.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (m9X4Y)
John "Build the Dang Fence" McCain Liesplains His Obamacare Reform No-Vote: I Won't Support Any Law That Democrats Don't Support Too
Uh, it was passed with no Republican votes. But we should keep it?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: WTF
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How? exact severe punishment how?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (so+oy)
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Stoning?
Posted by: MAGA at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (BcWbQ)
Way to go, buddy.
Posted by: Critical Masshole at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (nNdYv)
Thus the freakout.
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The last conservative thing the government did of any note was welfare reform in the mid-90s. That is twenty years ago now. And the Reps have controlled congress for most of that time.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2017 04:37 PM (eSx+E)
About 40 million uninsured today.
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That's not correct.. the uninsured rate dropped from almost 17% before Obamacare to less than 12% today..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (so+oy)
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Quick, what's 12% of our current 325M population?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:37 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2017 04:32 PM (ghofu)
If only he issued a statement like:
"I am shocked, dismayed and disgusted at John McCain. This is a man who I thought had the best interests of the nation and the citizenry at heart, as well as the character of a trusted and sincere, personal friend. He was neither. I call on him, for the good of the nation to resign, since appealing to him to reconsider would be a complete waste of time and trust. This is a sad day for America because one man has decided for whatever reason to ruin the lives of every citizen out of his own sense of warped pride and ego. Again, if Senator McCain has one ounce of decency left, I call upon him again to resign effective immediately."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:37 PM (mbhDw)
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meanwhile the life expectancy of americans will begin to fall, and bend the cost curve of soc security down -at least that is their wish-
Its always about the money.
Posted by: simplemind at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (RmX3b)
Posted by: Frau Plame, She-Wolf of the SS at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (z74gh)
Guess who gets to vote on term limits?
Yeah, we're hosed.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (+7evP)
Prayers for your daughter. But that's the other problem. Should the costs for that treatment be over a million dollars? Capitalism sometimes sucks.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (N7KlP)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (YV+SU)
Posted by: Fuckingstupidamericans at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (gepmM)
Posted by: Strobe at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (gbWkA)
And to all the drug-addled progs who've been crowing how they'd love to trade Trump for Lil' Kim, I truly wish we could load up a few C-130s and parachute you into the paradise that is North Korea.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2017 04:23 PM (Sfs6o)
For some reason this sounded like a Groucho Marx line.
Posted by: Max Power at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (YV+SU)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (ul9CR)
=
until they have to pay protection or get beheaded. There is no such thing as a free lunch, gringo.
Posted by: simplemind at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (pqt0P)
How? exact severe punishment how?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (so+"
It happens often in DC. They put. Committee Positions, stall any bill they sponsor and kill projects or grants to their states or districts.
That's how you play hardball in Washington.
But senators know that McConnell is weak sauce and won't do anything.
That's why the caucus is in disarray. He need to go.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (6fmef)
But it's not being done on a party line basis. JJ made a similar point on the news dump. Someone said how it's a shame that Republicans might have to go after political enemies, and JJ said, no, it's because those political enemies are criminal. We should be passing a repeal because OCare is an unconstitutional shit sandwich.
If we do so, our success could be as short-lived as theirs when the political winds shift, as they regularly do.
They only shift because assholes like you never do anything, and people think maybe aimlessly flitting to the other side of the uniparty with a different letter will make a difference.
The issue is too important, and too many lives are at risk, for us to leave the American people guessing from one election to the next whether and how they will acquire health insurance.
But if the healthcare system is so crappy that "lives are at risk", then people's only hope is for some kind of change in the system, brought about by election.
A bill of this impact requires a bipartisan approach.
But since they won't compromise, why not just say "a bill of this impact requires a Democrat approach"?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (/qEW2)
About 40 million uninsured today.
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That's not correct.. the uninsured rate dropped from almost 17% before Obamacare to less than 12% today..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (so+oy)
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Quick, what's 12% of our current 325M population?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:37 PM (UUvSq)
And coverage by Medicare is not good or useful. Most places around here (10 mile limit) don't even take Medicare or Medicaid patients because the rate of payment is both low and slow.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (xJa6I)
The plebes are noticing health care costs have gone through the roof...we need someone to talk about why that is.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (+7evP)
Prayers for your daughter. But that's the other problem. Should the costs for that treatment be over a million dollars? Capitalism sometimes sucks.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (N7KlP)
There may be other factors. FDA and other regulatory bodies might drive costs up. Yes, capitalism is the worst system in the world, except for every other scheme devised by man. And indeed, prayers.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:41 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 22, 2017 04:41 PM (JyFLk)
O-Care collapse is a step toward single-payer. To them it's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 22, 2017 04:41 PM (ul9CR)
So McCain votes for Obamacare Collapse. I can live with this.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (YV+SU)
Can you live with single payer? That's what's coming after the collapse.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:41 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2017 04:41 PM (Mouru)
Guess who gets to vote on term limits?
Yeah, we're hosed.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (Enq6K)
The same people who vote on pay raises?
And for which laws they don't have to follow?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:41 PM (xJa6I)
California Tech Firm Hands Out $66 Million in Cash to Random Strangers to See If Welfare Makes You Smart
Seriously:
https://futurism.com/people-in-two-u-s-states-will-get-1000-a-month-in-a-new-basic-income-trial/
They're doing all this as part of a social experiment to hopefully "prove" that if you get welfare money, you'll take more risks and be more entrepreneurial than if you have to earn a living.
All in an attempt to persuade us all to implement "Universal Guaranteed Income" -- i.e welfare benefits for EVERYONE nationwide -- in the US.
$66 million to conduct a ridiculous flawed study.
TIme for the investors to pull out of this startup, which is wasting their money.
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2017 04:41 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Max Power at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (+7evP)
the children are innocent
prayers
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Bernie "Bernie" Sanders at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (Mouru)
Now, he knows the side his bread is buttered on, but since he's tasted the teat of liberal cock and cash, he's gone full retard. It's a shame, but all of hollywood is dead to me. Conservatives that make movies aren't in hollywood, so they don't count, really. They're shunned as well.
They won't figure it out. They will NEVER figure it out. I don't shop where I'm not wanted. I'm not wanted where they pay liberal fucktards to shill their product.
I don't drink Stella anymore because I don't want Matt Damon getting my money. I don't care about the bullshit about the "clean water in Africa" he pushed. If it was 10 cents a purchase, Damon could fund the whole fucking project and not blink an eye.
Kill them with capitalism as it SHOULD be.
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (xttKs)
How? exact severe punishment how? Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:28 PM (so+oy)
Remove him from his chairmanship of the Senate Commitee on Armed Services
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (xJa6I)
Medicare is actually not that bad for providers, depending on specialty. A lot of providers would go under without it, and in some cases is their best and most prompt payer. Medicaid on the other hand is a joke.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (JO9+V)
Yeah, we're hosed.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (Enq6K)
No one gets to vote on term limits. Term limits must be enacted with a Constitutional amendment.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:43 PM (8gDQu)
You know that that's the news story McConnell and Ryan were hoping to hear this year. Send money so we can defeat the Democrats!
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at September 22, 2017 04:43 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:34 PM (so+oy)
---
Quick, what's 12% of our current 325M population?
---
We're going to need a number, please.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:43 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: DGK at September 22, 2017 04:43 PM (DflMi)
109 O-care sucks. My granddaughter has been getting a new treatment for
SMA. So far, it's been over a million bucks. O-care has turned down the
fourth appeal and won't cover it. If not for the generosity of the drug
company...
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 22, 2017 04:36 PM (+7evP)
Prayers for your daughter. But that's the other problem. Should
the costs for that treatment be over a million dollars? Capitalism
sometimes sucks.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (N7KlP)
No, capitalism doesn't suck sometimes. If it wasn't for capitalism, there would not have even been this treatment discovered.
Just because a treatment is expensive, it doesn't mean that the company is greedy. It usually means that it cost a fuckton of money to create the treatment.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (1JnAL)
Yeah, we're hosed.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:38 PM (Enq6K)
No one gets to vote on term limits. Term limits must be enacted with a Constitutional amendment.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:43 PM (8gDQu)
Article V.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (fceHP)
I was in Arizona last October and saw ads for McRINO's general election opponent: it was like his ugly younger whore sister. I'm thinking their state GOP is just as dysfunctional as here in Ohio that give us fucking goofs like Katshit, Groin-itch and Howdy Doody Taft.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Caliban at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (DrC22)
142 132 So McCain votes for Obamacare Collapse. I can live with this.
O-Care collapse is a step toward single-payer. To them it's a feature, not a bug.
------------------
Not really. O-Care Collapses, insurers have no income, and patients have no way to pay for services.
Congress passes law to allow free people to buy insurance that they want - viola - health insurance, insurance companies have income and patients can pay for services. Simple really.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (YV+SU)
All in an attempt to persuade us all to implement "Universal
Guaranteed Income" -- i.e welfare benefits for EVERYONE nationwide -- in
the US.
***
Either Universal
Guaranteed Income will be low enough that it will just be another welfare program, or it will be high enough to cause everyone to stop working and start:
Smoking Pot
Playing Video Games
Watching Reality TV
all day long.
One wonders what the elites will do when they can no longer find maids, nannies, etc?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (eSx+E)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (xJa6I)
Medicare is actually not that bad for providers, depending on specialty. A lot of providers would go under without it, and in some cases is their best and most prompt payer. Medicaid on the other hand is a joke.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (NWiLs)
Well maybe it's different in FL, then. Here in WA , most doctors won't take Medicare.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: cornbred at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (QcpA7)
As usual I agree with you. Its just that I handle medical bills all day long and I see the ridiculousness of the charges.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (N7KlP)
The 2008 financial crisis happened over a period of a few hours when there was a run on the money markets.
It took a year to get Obamacare through congress.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 04:45 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Strobe at September 22, 2017 04:45 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:45 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:46 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Gaz Chaud at September 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xhWFN)
That's a keeper.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 04:46 PM (3myMJ)
$1,000 per month. Wow. That'll sure change some lives.
I wonder how much that is in crystal meth.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2017 04:46 PM (Mouru)
No. It's part of the kabuki.
McCain will be gone soon. Graham is losing his buttbuddy and must run on his own now. As always, he needs to look like he's moving to the right before every reelection campaign. McCain provides the kill shot on behalf of the GOP (and Graham more specifically) as this legislation fails and Graham doesn't get left holding the bag while he poses as a guy "who just tried to get things done via compromise but, gosh darn it, we just couldn't get it done".
This is pure politics and failure theater. And McCain just being his usual, backstabbing a-hole.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 22, 2017 04:46 PM (H8S+R)
Yes, I know you see how successful (relatively speaking) Colbert has gotten by being political and you want a slce of that pie, but there's only so much pie to go around. Colbert has all of it. Nobody watches you for pithy political satire, or even Colbert's hamfisted idiotic political blathering. They watch you to see you be funny and nice, and divert them a while.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 04:46 PM (39g3+)
There's a word for that.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2017 04:47 PM (6fmef)
Kill them with capitalism as it SHOULD be.
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:42 PM (xttKs)
what did you replace it with?
I just bought some Stella today, it was on sale.
I love that stuff.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:47 PM (fceHP)
Yep, the way to get it done is have it passed in state after state until the required majority is reached and it becomes constitutional.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 04:47 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:43 PM (UUvSq)
39 million.
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:47 PM (xttKs)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 22, 2017 04:43 PM (8gDQu)
Article V.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (mbhDw)
I may be the only one on here who is scared of an Article V convention....but I am. God's knows what crap the left will try to get away with.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:48 PM (Enq6K)
$1,000 per month. Wow. That'll sure change some lives.
I wonder how much that is in crystal meth.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2017 04:46 PM (Mouru)
"Let's find out..."
- - Samantha Power
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:48 PM (mbhDw)
http://tinyurl.com/y9484u3l
This may be the stupidest sentence ever written.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2017 04:48 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Glenn John at September 22, 2017 04:48 PM (LilNs)
Tweeted-out by a 0.001%'er who will never, ever have to deal with rationing, death panels, and other joys brought to us by this hero's vote to save the rancid sh1t sandwich that is ObamaCare.
Eat a bag of dicks, Kimmel.
Posted by: DocJ at September 22, 2017 04:48 PM (NYS7S)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (zSVEm)
I may be the only one on here who is scared of an Article V convention....but I am. God's knows what crap the left will try to get away with.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:48 PM (Enq6K)
Look at the electoral map and the makeup of the state legislatures and please tell me how the Left will get away with anything.
Tami, darling. You should read up on the process and be consoled.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 04:46 PM (39g3+)
just say Paladin
always say Paladin
*chuckle*
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (fceHP)
The guy teamed up with other great Republicans (Lincoln Chaffee; Susan Collins; Miss Lindsey) to throw W's judges under the bus-- when the GOP had a 55-45 majority!
Thus, he preserved the judicial filibuster, which is NOW holding back Trump's judicial nominations.
A despicable, grandstanding whore? Yes... but consistent.
He gets reelected because his GOP primary opponents never unite behind ONE alternative.
We'll have Obamacare forever now, until it's replaced by single payer, which it will be.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (Ejylv)
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (p/DpB)
I just bought some Stella today, it was on sale.
I love that stuff.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:47 PM (fceHP)
Well, I was a fan, but it wasn't my regular. I'm that silly macro brew guy and drink Miller Lite. But, when I find something I like, I will drink it when out or just want a change. I now just pick a local brew that they have on tap, or something that I used to drink, but just don't that often anymore.
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:50 PM (xttKs)
They're lucky he wasn't in one of the lifeboats on the Titanic. He'd have it all to himself to make room for his legs.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 22, 2017 04:50 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: DanMan at September 22, 2017 04:50 PM (XTiHL)
Tami, darling. You should read up on the process and be consoled.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (mbhDw)
NO...I'd rather run in circles screaming with my hair on fire.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:50 PM (Enq6K)
You've got to deal with the same 3 or 4 idiots who are already making similar noises on that.
Paul
MCCain
Collins
Murkowski
Oh yeah and the Freedom Caucus in the House.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (6fmef)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (zSVEm)
You first need two thirds of the states to vote to sign onto it. Then each one sends delegates to propose amendments. Then it's up to 2/3rds majority to pass each amendment.
Check Levin's book "Liberty Amendments." He goes into great detail.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (dKiJG)
I hope Melania is packing.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (PY9jH)
In fairness, it's the tumor talking.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (QQ+il)
Joy Villa Verified account @Joy_Villa Sep 7
I'm proud to ANNOUNCE I am now an official member of President Trump's Campaign Advisory Board! #TEAMTRUMP...
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (ul9CR)
NO...I'd rather run in circles screaming with my hair on fire.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:50 PM (Enq6K)
Fan of CBD's art thread, I see...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (mbhDw)
---
The world may never know why the (D)s and news services (sorry for the redundancy) abruptly switched from reporting numbers to reporting percentages.
One of the great mysteries.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (S4D7L)
Posted by: Very Undude at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (2X7pN)
One thousand dollars! Holy Cow! That's...that's really something all right.
Posted by: Max Power at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (q177U)
Burn the heretic.
Posted by: DocJ at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (NYS7S)
Posted by: Glenn John at September 22, 2017 04:48 PM (LilNs)
They will vote for tax reform and by reform I mean higher taxes
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (TnEB8)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: cornbred at September 22, 2017 04:44 PM (QcpA7)
Yes, he should call it the "McCollinsRandkowski-You like your Obamacare, you can have your Obamacare" Executive order.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (oVJmc)
Yes indeed. See: Musk, Elon.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:52 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (dKiJG)
The left is defective. This is unacceptable. Tell me again what America is, then you have these assholes attacking a 12 year old because politics. That's just fucking disgusting.
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (xttKs)
Posted by: Sponge at September 22, 2017 04:50 PM (xttKs)
ah, okay
I have to be careful with some of the fresh local brews. Gives me migraines.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (rmVvL)
Posted by: #neverskankles
travel for various surgeries is already pretty big biz ... half price or better, and quality pretty good as I hear, if one is careful.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (yKAUL)
Would America be in any better shape? It's doubtful. We may or may not have got Obama, but there's a good chance we would of had him or HRC after one term of McCain. Chances are Government would have taken over healthcare anyway--possibly with more bipartisan support and a faster track to total nationalization. Additionally, there is no telling what kind of foreign interventions America would be involved in. Either way, government growth and spending probably would be at the same level it is today.
We'd surely have open borders.
It's a toss up as to where America would be at this point in time.
Posted by: Gaspergoo at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (WUuhi)
Remember Joy Villa, the singer with the MAGA dress? PDT does:
She was great on Tucker the other night.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (JO9+V)
followers know Barron Trump plays for the DC United U12 team. And of
course because the games schedule is online you have people wanting to
show up and boo him.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 22, 2017 04:39 PM (dKiJG)
Well, I guess it's okay to mock Malia Obama for being videoed passing out face down drunk and the Secret Service having to scoop her up and carry her off in a golf cart.
I mean, since in Liberal Land kids are no longer off limits.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (PY9jH)
--
Because we have to work together! Bi-partisanship! Reach across the aisle!!
There has never been effective Republican legislation without Democrat input! EVER!!!
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR NATION, AND WE MUST DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO SUPPORT THEM! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!!!!
Posted by: John Stockholm Syndrome McCain at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (aT+Bx)
In that case, the tumor has been talking for decades. It's wearing McCain like a suit.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (H8S+R)
Same with abortion.
Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (TLACo)
Posted by: Adobe Juan Kenobe at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (MIz97)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (oVJmc)
It's a very good Montepulciano de Abruzzo red wine. It's not expensive.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (3myMJ)
He screwed over the entire nation to avoid having personally embarrassing information leaked.
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (LQJj7)
Posted by: Venus at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (YVBLw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 22, 2017 04:53 PM (JO9+V)
She had kind of a good bod a ways back IIRC. But yeah, the cray cray causes shrinkage.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (mbhDw)
Straight line Republican repeal was the countermeasure.
Bipartisan healthcare, but with Republican majority on the major sticking points was the path forward.
A non-GOPe party would have kicked either of the Pinko AZ or ME senators out of all positions of responsibility " to encourage the others".
Since they won't, I hope Trump can come up with a stick and carrot to beat and bugger McStain with.
Posted by: Gomorrah at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (TRrzG)
And will those 'gifts' be taxed?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (BK/H3)
Posted by: Insomniac
..........
My wife is on Medicare for a few years now.. same doctors as before.. zero out of pocket with supplemental plans (not including prescriptions).
Being on insulin is really expensive when she hits the donut hole.. but my work plan has a deductible co-pay limit almost as high and it was costing me almost $900 per month to keep her on that..
Medicaid pays a lot less, I believe.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (so+oy)
I want to know
taxpayer dollars
+
premium increases
+
admin costs
+
compliance costs
+
etc.
I want to know what it REALLY costs over the next decade. I'd be shocked if it's less than $4 trillion.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (UUvSq)
It doesn't appear to be painful, though there is a lot of shitting yourself as you diminish. My BFF died from this cancer.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (QQ+il)
vis instapundit, shlichter (sp?) runs a 2016 mccain ad on his twitter thing where he states it's ruining arizona and "mccain is against obamacare".
ok.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (AxFdW)
NO...I'd rather run in circles screaming with my hair on fire.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 04:50 PM (Enq6K)
Just go outside, it will probably self ignite.
90 fucking degrees on the first day of fall. Its hotter than most of the summer has been.
Yes, I blame you.
Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2017 04:40 PM (eSx+E)
this is what makes me sick, turns my stomach
so many people are suffering, and hurting and going bankrupt because of both parties now
but what does McStain care? He's got his. His family has it. His friends have it. They have no idea how much people are hurting. And they don't care.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (fceHP)
$1,000 per month. Wow. That'll sure change some lives.
I wonder how much that is in crystal meth.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
The completely crazy part is that the recipients were chosen at random -- NOT just pre-existing welfare recipients, or "poor people." Most of the people getting the money are employed, possibly even well-off.
The "experiment" is to prove that the $1,000/month guaranteed for 5 years will give you enough of a "psychological cushion" that you will "take risks" and thus cure cancer or invent Facebook or something like that.
Meanwhile, the "control group" who will get "only" $50/month are supposed to feel "unsafe," and thus WON'T cure cancer or invent Facebook, because they're not getting enough welfare to give them the cushion.
Of course, the funny part is that the reverse will happen -- the $1,000/month people will kick back and smoke doobies all day long because they have no worries, while the $50/monthers will scramble to make more $$$, and thus be more "motivated."
Basic economics -- how does it work again?
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (it+WZ)
Posted by: Venus
.............
new family.. new baby earlier this year..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (so+oy)
Correct.
But I disagree about the Freedom Caucus. The problem is the Senate.
I have to think that disaster helps Moore on Tues., even though Moore has equivocated about Graham-Cassidy himself.
GOP primary voters are wicked pissed.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 04:56 PM (Ejylv)
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 04:56 PM (3myMJ)
They can lose only two and still pass it? ... so McCain and Maine, have to have Rand and Murky in AK. Do we have a bridge to give them?
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2017 04:56 PM (yKAUL)
Posted by: fluffy at September 22, 2017 04:56 PM (U0v/A)
I would never wish that disease on anyone.
Or, never thought I would.
McCain is a c*^&$#@$er
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 22, 2017 04:57 PM (ty7RM)
I can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:57 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2017 04:57 PM (TLACo)
And as they went down, Valerie Plame would have hollered "Iceberg, Goldberg, what's the difference?!"
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at September 22, 2017 04:57 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:57 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:49 PM (zSVEm)
http://tinyurl.com/n8cqow2
Posted by: cornbred at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (QcpA7)
*hangs head* *whimper*
Posted by: Sarah Silverman's Dog at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (z74gh)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (UUvSq)
I can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:57 PM (PY9jH)
Wellstone redux.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (JO9+V)
It's really a shame McCain wasn't taken out in the S&L scandal.
Asshole.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (2JcMg)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: Moron Robbie
...........
Yeah.. that's the thing I always bring up when libtards argue for Obamacare.. All they want to talk about is how much it is "saving".. what bullshit.. the carriers are simply passing more and more on to the insured.. higher co-pays and deductibles as well as higher premiums!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
As your Professor in Virtue-Signalling Pseudo-Economics 101, I give you an "F" for your answer to the test.
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (DQ4Fv)
How much of an Article V Convention would GOPe control?
Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2017 04:57 PM (TLACo)
Enough..
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (rmVvL)
Trump wanted a symbolic political victory, but that's all it would have been.
Not only that, as soon as the GOP touched it, they would have owned it politically.
Crash-and-burn---not pretty, but effective.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (ALDN3)
I may be the only one on here who is scared of an Article V convention....but I am. God's knows what crap the left will try to get away with.
You're not alone. We are not the nation we were when the constitution was written. We cannot be trusted to monkey around with it.
How much of an Article V Convention would GOPe control?
All the parts the Democrats did not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (39g3+)
This node controls John McCain's brain. He is not responsible for his actions. He should be home in AZ where he can be looked after.
His votes in the Senate are not legal because he is not of sound mind.
Posted by: gNewt at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (mt2jL)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Venus
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new family.. new baby earlier this year..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (so+oy)
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My point exactly -- he grossly pimps out this baby's illness to manipulate people's emotions to serve his political agenda like the ghoul he is, because if he actually cared about his kids he wouldn't have walked out on his first set. He'll be walking out on Billy too.
Posted by: Venus at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (YVBLw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
The Committee has now voted to expel you from Fantasyland Economics University.
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2017 05:00 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Fuckingstupidamericans at September 22, 2017 05:00 PM (gepmM)
If it's made up from State Legislatures, quite a bit.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:00 PM (oVJmc)
And will those 'gifts' be taxed?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse
It is NOT for pre-existing welfare recipients! It's for random people -- even rich, employed people!
Posted by: zombie at September 22, 2017 05:01 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 22, 2017 05:01 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 05:01 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2017 04:58 PM (so+oy)
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The last numbers I saw were that it gave Medicaid to five million or so people, and many of them were already eligible prior to Obamacare (woodwork IIRC). All the rest were just shuffling folks around.
Five trillion dollars to give welfare coverage to five million people.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 05:01 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 04:54 PM (oVJmc)
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The only entrepreneurs in such an economy will be black market "criminals" like in the old Soviet Union.
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2017 05:01 PM (yFRdn)
Posted by: trippy64 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (chEis)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2017 04:51 PM (mbhDw)
I'm not that crazy.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (TnEB8)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: trippy64 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (chEis)
Absolute bull shit.
Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2017 05:03 PM (z/Ubi)
If it's made up from State Legislatures, quite a bit.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:00 PM (oVJmc)
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But the folks that voted for them will have a hand on their shoulder that they don't have during regular session.
It's going to be up close and personal.
Posted by: gNewt at September 22, 2017 05:03 PM (mt2jL)
Posted by: trippy64 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (chEis)
doesn't matter who the president is McCain will always fuck conservatives
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2017 05:04 PM (TnEB8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 22, 2017 05:04 PM (Nwg0u)
With glioblastoma, he's up for a bigger unknown than that.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (ALDN3)
and I remember how all the good republicans said it was crazy to talk of primarying John McCain in 2016.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (xJa6I)
I like the Lego movies!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: trippy64 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (chEis)
Like commenters have stated: McCain for all practical purposes is a Democrat. He's only stayed in the Republican party so he wouldn't lose seniority.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (G0vdT)
He's nothing but a liar and a fraud and a con. I stopped voting for him decades ago. I only supported him for president (and only after he received the nomination) because the alternative was so horrible.
Why people keep voting for him is a mystery. Every 6 years he pretends to care about border security, then as soon as he is safely re-elected, he votes against every border security measure. And he views himself as some type of heroic figure for continually and deliberately deceiving and betraying the people who vote him into office.
McCain is just weird and pathetic. His father and grandfather must be rolling in their graves.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (BXf9o)
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I'm pretty sure that this has been tracked via lottery winners.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (58eZn)
Posted by: trippy64 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (chEis)
John McCain has delighted in stabbing Republican presidents in the back for at least 20 years. He loves being the center of attention and the roadblock in any process that the 'whacko birds' want.
Trump had nothing to do with it.
Next talking point, please.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: trippy64 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (chEis)
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Go along with President Hillary? I'm sure McCain certainly would've.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (UUvSq)
Politically, that is.
Posted by: gNewt at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (mt2jL)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
This is guilty of two fallacies, consequentialism and false dichotomy.
You argue that an unjust system is acceptable, because it has gotten some positive result.
If someone were suffering from double kidney failure do they have the right to appropriate one of your kidneys? It wouldn't kill you, and would have a positive result. See the problem, genius?
It also assumes that this is our *only* alternative, as opposed to numerous reforms, such as tort reform, legislation regarding pharmaceuticals, artificial limits on the number of physicians, etc. You act as if this shit sandwich is the *only* possibility.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 04:59 PM (xJa6I)
I like the Lego movies!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:05 PM (fceHP)
I like 85% of the first one. I could use some escapism and the trailer looked funny.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (xJa6I)
Yes. He's also a bitter dying man and he loathes Trump.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (ALDN3)
Won't repeal O-care.
Stall the Wall.
Sanctuary Cities are OK.
Won't pass a tax reform/cut.
No going after Obama for using the IRS to fight political enemies.
What are the Dem positions on each of the above?
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (UUvSq)
I am. I save all the images. They make a great screen saver slide show. People who come into the office are very impressed. I can even talk about art like I know what I'm talking about, thanks to the contributions from the Hoard.
It gets me invited to swanky parties where I can qualify prospective clients, and it is easy to start a conversation when talking about art.
I don't know where I would be with out Ace and the Morons. Why, I would probably be downloading bootleg movies off the torrent, or something.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (m9X4Y)
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Well, he ain't no Charlie Daniels so I'm hoping the Devil goes down to Arizona.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (Nwg0u)
But I'm not as scared of that as I used to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (k1TUh)
His tumor will be up for reelection for 2022. Welcome to hell.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 22, 2017 04:16 PM (XFue2)
There's 100% no doubt in my mind he was lying about that.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 22, 2017 04:31 PM (CMbMd)
Cancer sounds better than late stage syphalis.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (IWbvi)
Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (TLACo)
Posted by: Fritz at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (z74gh)
Yeah, I don't actually believe any of that. Except the part about "that turd Kimmel".
Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (CL76w)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvjwXhCNZcU
Posted by: Max Power at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Fuckingstupidamericans at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (gepmM)
That's it, right there. They don't. The Uniparty cares about itself, power, the deep state, money, committees, access. People of the country barely make a dent in their considerations. That's why a populist victory was viewed with such derision...basically sneered at. The social contract has been shredded. Not sure there are even ethics anymore. The moral compass broke long ago.
We have a Uniparty. I have decided if I accept this reality I can stop losing my mind every week. Our only way out, truly out, is a new party to run against the Uniparty. And win.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (597Fz)
I am. I save all the images. They make a great screen saver slide show. People who come into the office are very impressed. I can even talk about art like I know what I'm talking about, thanks to the contributions from the Hoard.
It gets me invited to swanky parties where I can qualify prospective clients, and it is easy to start a conversation when talking about art.
I don't know where I would be with out Ace and the Morons. Why, I would probably be downloading bootleg movies off the torrent, or something.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 05:07 PM (m9X4Y)
Did you save his "ugly people" art from the other week?
Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (z/Ubi)
I'm going to go take a nice bath and get ready for my husband to take me out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (PY9jH)
He'll change party affiliation if they do that, I guarantee.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (oVJmc)
The Turtle wants it this way. McCain just did the dirty work for him.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:09 PM (ALDN3)
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No. His last election was 2016, so he's not up again until 2022, by which time he will almost certainly be dead.
He has 2 - 3 years left to him, if he's lucky.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 22, 2017 05:09 PM (BXf9o)
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (TnEB
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Why should we be mad at Paul for not accepting some half assed deal? _Because the pubbies can't come through with repeal? Oh, another hill but this one's OK.
What to bitch about Rand? Put up a full repeal and see what he says.
Posted by: gNewt at September 22, 2017 05:10 PM (mt2jL)
At this point, I believe it is inevitable. The only questions are how long and in what manner?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 05:10 PM (39g3+)
right. the tagline in the 2016 mccain campaign ad was that he "would lead the fight against obamacare".
and he does the same thing on border security? far out.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2017 05:10 PM (AxFdW)
Posted by: trippy64 at September 22, 2017 05:02 PM (chEis)
Probably so, which to me means that McCain should be tarred and feathered and ridden out of DC on a rail.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 05:10 PM (QQ+il)
He'll change party affiliation if they do that, I guarantee.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (oVJmc)
That's the answer, along with Collins and probably Murkowski. They're really democrats.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:10 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (xJa6I)
Go for it! I hear the world is ending tomorrow. Live a little.
I don't know what we'll watch tonight. Either Baby Driver or The Hitman's Bodyguard
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:11 PM (fceHP)
Glioblastoma in an 80-year old?
Take the under. See Kennedy, T.--as I'm sure McCain will be soon.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:11 PM (ALDN3)
But I'm not as scared of that as I used to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Bug or feature?
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:11 PM (QkF23)
He'll change party affiliation if they do that, I guarantee.
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McCain is already wearing a black hat.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 22, 2017 05:12 PM (Nwg0u)
He'll change party affiliation if they do that, I guarantee.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:08 PM (oVJmc)
That's the answer, along with Collins and probably Murkowski. They're really democrats.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:10 PM (G0vdT)
plants
and people getting duped
why can't we be that smart, plant some over there in that cesspool they call a party
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:12 PM (fceHP)
He is too good for this mean old world. I would like to see him transported to a better one.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 05:12 PM (Ejylv)
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:12 PM (QkF23)
Because conservatism is hard, while corruption and leftism is easy
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:13 PM (ALDN3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:13 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (0OmEj)
Yes. Great conversation starters.
Usually starts with OMG! What is that?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:12 PM (QkF23)
Ya mean "heshe" dontja ??
Posted by: Fuckingstupidamericans at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (gepmM)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (39g3+)
Why should we be mad at Paul for not accepting some half assed deal? _Because the pubbies can't come through with repeal? Oh, another hill but this one's OK.
What to bitch about Rand? Put up a full repeal and see what he says.
Posted by: gNewt at September 22, 2017 05:10 PM (mt2jL)
I can never get mad at Rand Paul for some reason. Cute little voice. Cute little man. He makes sense most of the time.
I have to say, I want full repeal too. And conservative values built in. Fiscal conservative. But no way we'll ever see that.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (QQ+il)
Stall the Wall.
Sanctuary Cities are OK.
Won't pass a tax reform/cut.
No going after Obama for using the IRS to fight political enemies.
What are the Dem positions on each of the above?
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we call the bi-partisanship, and our friends in the DNC agree that doing what they want is always the best choice. We concur!
Posted by: The GOPe/ Deep State at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Chris M at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (eAZVt)
Posted by: kraken at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (39g3+)
Tucker might be interesting tonight.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (fceHP)
The Democrats will not reelect them and we'll be rid of them for good.
McCain won't matter.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (3myMJ)
More innate deviance of the Democrat Party.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (BXf9o)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:16 PM (SjImc)
Personal intervention will be necessary, and even then I don't know if he has much leverage. Paul and Murkowski have to turn. The other two are a lost cause.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:16 PM (ALDN3)
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Committee chairmanship? I don't need no stinkin' committee chairmanship!
- Juan McCain
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 22, 2017 05:16 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: gNewt at September 22, 2017 05:16 PM (mt2jL)
To lie through your f'n teeth. To be a weasel, to cheat.
Usage:
Let me McSplain why I left Carol, Cindy had more money.
I can McSplain leaving the campaign and coming back to Washington to give the election to Barak.
In my next press conference I will be McSplaining how McSplain Feingold was constitutional.
I could McSplain how Obamacare is great but you would not understand.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2017 05:16 PM (bmkS9)
That is all.
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2017 05:14 PM (0OmEj)
Always has been, just now we are starting to get a good whiff of the stench
Posted by: Fuckingstupidamericans at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (gepmM)
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (ALDN3)
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (Ejylv)
Posted by: Northernlurker at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (aCNZ6)
90 fucking degrees on the first day of fall. Its hotter than most of the summer has been.
Yes, I blame you.
Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2017 04:55 PM (z/Ubi)
You're awfully mouthy for a dead guy.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Rick in SK at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 05:06 PM (xJa6I)
Go for it! I hear the world is ending tomorrow. Live a little.
I don't know what we'll watch tonight. Either Baby Driver or The Hitman's Bodyguard
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:11 PM (fceHP)
If we're still alive, let me know if you like them!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (xJa6I)
I think the poster that Chi Jerry is trying to correct with questionable percentage stats , was attempting to point out that the actual numbers are insignificant compared to the cost even if you used Chi Jerry's figures. Rough math shows 5% of 40 million is just 2 million so we went from 40 million uninsured to 38 million. Whoop de do.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (N7KlP)
Bingo. Like a BandAid.
Won't happen.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:18 PM (ALDN3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:13 PM (SjImc)
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Yeah, I'm not celebrating his demise and I just won't post when he dies so I'm not misunderstood.
If nothing else, cancer has really opened a lot of eyes about the petty, vindictive SOB. Between that and #NeverTrump, he's decided it's more important to stumble in front of every camera than it is to laugh with his kids and put puzzles together with his grandkids before sitting on the porch and watching every sunset while holding his wife's hand.
Think about that for a moment.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 05:18 PM (UUvSq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:18 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: gNewt at September 22, 2017 05:16 PM (mt2jL)
GOP,the liberal wing of the Dimocraps
Posted by: Fuckingstupidamericans at September 22, 2017 05:18 PM (gepmM)
More innate deviance of the Democrat Party.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (oVJmc)
I was just reading that! Effing heroin dealer!
Again... the speech...I am without.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:18 PM (Enq6K)
He has twice conserved OCare
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:19 PM (ALDN3)
Personal intervention will be necessary, and even then I don't know if he has much leverage. Paul and Murkowski have to turn. The other two are a lost cause.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:16 PM (ALDN3)
Why would Trump touch this now? He's of the "let it collapse and blame the Dem's" camp. I frankly don't blame him.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:19 PM (G0vdT)
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Yep.
But be prepared for Bernie and Single Payer to come to the rescue and expect a majority of Republicans to support it.
Because that's who they are.
Posted by: shibumi at September 22, 2017 05:19 PM (aT+Bx)
I WILL celebrate his demise...the fuck has done us more harm than any left winger I can actually think of
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:19 PM (SjImc)
Irrelevant since they all dead because they don't have insurance.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 05:19 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: auscolpyr at September 22, 2017 05:20 PM (suO/a)
I wish they would quit calling the socialist shit that they're after "insurance," 'cause it ain't.
Posted by: RKae at September 22, 2017 05:20 PM (hI/9G)
We should only be so lucky.
Just go towards the light, McCain.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2017 05:20 PM (cE2RX)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 22, 2017 05:20 PM (JO9+V)
He'll probably now shift to 'let it burn' mode.
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (ALDN3)
Because that's who they are.
Posted by: shibumi at September 22, 2017 05:19 PM (aT+Bx)
Well that is where we are headed and have been since the left pushed Fredocare over the line by every disgusting political tactic they could, but that is just Jake with McShit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (SjImc)
He has twice conserved OCare
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:19 PM (ALDN3)
Lest everyone forget: McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform. Unconstitutional and sop to the Democrats.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (G0vdT)
Honor him for what?
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (Nwg0u)
Would it help or hurt Trump to ask for it to be brought up?
Posted by: davidt at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (TLACo)
Correct, as long as he can be allowed to simply react and respond rather than lead, he can be a media darling and tongued gently by the left. Forcing him to stand up and do his job rather than simply vote no would change that dynamic.
Honest question: has John McCain ever done anything actually conservativish?
He's a big time hawk, so he's always for military spending.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (39g3+)
Is mainly
In his brain.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 22, 2017 05:20 PM (JO9+V)
I love it.
Put it on Broadway!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 22, 2017 05:21 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:22 PM (QkF23)
Or have an expensive mandatory automatic transmission repair surcharge, when you own a 5-speed manual.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 05:22 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:22 PM (ALDN3)
Posted by: Chris M at September 22, 2017 05:15 PM (eAZVt)
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She's going to do fine already, but, if you can convince her to pretend she thinks she's a boy until she's admitted, she can go to any Ivy she wants.
I'm not joking. She only has to do it until she gets in.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 22, 2017 05:22 PM (UUvSq)
The Left knows, that's why they call it healthcare.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 05:22 PM (3myMJ)
The Democrats will not reelect them and we'll be rid of them for good."
"Strip Collins and Murkowski" - um, phrasing.
But, yes, this is productive one step back, two steps forward thinking. Which, of course, is antithetical to Uniparty goals and won't happen.
The GOP as we have understood it is dead. Now we really understand it and it is alive and prospering. Which is to say until it is replaced, there is no conservative party. It must be replaced.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 22, 2017 05:22 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (SjImc)
But be prepared for Bernie and Single Payer to come to the rescue and expect a majority of Republicans to support it.
We can be more efficient managers of the Single Payer system.
Posted by: GOPe at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (EUMr7)
It's worse than you thought.
Read the resolution if you need to barf: His love of sports, his dream of becoming a professional fashion designer; his love of children; & more.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (Ejylv)
Or have an expensive mandatory automatic transmission repair surcharge, when you own a 5-speed manual."
What gripes me these days are the Rebuilt Tranny's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (k1TUh)
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As if he'd actually answer the question.
Ever seen him at a townhall? "My friend, I'm glad you asked me that question. Now let me tell you . . . . [then you get a rambling, 5-minute discourse on some unrelated issue, usually something about how McCain is "out front, leading" on this or that unimportant trivial matter that nobody cares about. Then McCain waves his security people to close in on the questioner, so they can shut him/her up if they try to point out that he didn't answer the question they asked.]
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (BXf9o)
In McCain's case, I don't think it will be light.
More like
Fade to Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEQnzs8wl6E
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (m9X4Y)
Is mainly
In his brain.
Posted by: Count de Monet
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By George, he's got it!
Posted by: Henry Higgins at September 22, 2017 05:24 PM (hI/9G)
Posted by: John McCain at September 22, 2017 05:24 PM (ALDN3)
Posted by: Fritz at September 22, 2017 05:24 PM (z74gh)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Very much in agreement.
Posted by: RKae at September 22, 2017 05:25 PM (hI/9G)
I can't believe I voted for this shitweasel for President.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 05:17 PM (QQ+il)
Yeah that kind of tempers my pride at never considering voting for Obama.
Posted by: Gaspergoo at September 22, 2017 05:25 PM (WUuhi)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 22, 2017 05:25 PM (EUMr7)
Re: comment #124,
Yep, we should never forget that McStain's personal corruption goes back DECADES. - And my recollection is that he gave one of those lame-ass half-apologies. Something akin to: "I made a mistake. But I didn't really know the self-enriching corruption I was clearly descending into was actually wrong. So you know, it wasn't like I intended to be the venally crooked asshole I was revealed for being."
He never did come clean and own that he intentionally done something immoral.
I actually feel regret every time I remember the 08' election and that that I _proudly_ voted for him. - Blahhggh!
The only in good-conscience way to have voted for this stinkin' jerk was by recognizing that it was out of pure necessity in opposing Obama.
We can't be rid of him from politics soon enough.
The good riddance will be sweet.
Posted by: Cold Civil War at September 22, 2017 05:25 PM (Z2PYk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (SjImc)
All those calling for the repeal of the 17th amendment, I'm in.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:25 PM (G0vdT)
They always answer the question. Just not the question you asked.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 05:25 PM (IqV8l)
Honor him for what?
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His entrepreneurial spirit and for fighting back against his oppressors.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 22, 2017 05:26 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 22, 2017 05:26 PM (EUMr7)
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:26 PM (QkF23)
That's because there's not a war or conflict or police action on the planet he doesn't want America to be involved. So, still not conservative.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 22, 2017 05:26 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 05:23 PM (Ejylv)
I read it. It's absolutely unbelievable. Passed unanimously too.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 22, 2017 04:33 PM (mpXpK)
As much as I loathe McLame, I DO NOT LIKE "top two" "nonpartisan blanket" or "jungle" primaries. We get Commiecrat vs. Commiecrat out here with that. To say nothing of the "David Duke Effect" that Louisiana had.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (ujg0T)
I'm a boobie voter.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (zLDYs)
What is the status of full repeal & replace, you ask?
Exactly the same status as everyone born before 1890.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (Ejylv)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: phineas gage at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (ALDN3)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:28 PM (fceHP)
McSTAIN deserves to be remembered for his rank corruption as a shameless member of the Keating Five.
Posted by: Cold Civil War at September 22, 2017 05:28 PM (Z2PYk)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:28 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Taqyia2Me @ Intersectionality of Deplorable & Irredeemable at September 22, 2017 05:28 PM (Ftuf+)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Very much in agreement.
Posted by: RKae at September
Or flooded ones, what keeps all those Harvey flooded tranny's and blocks (and tires), etc out of the parts chain
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:28 PM (QkF23)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 22, 2017 05:28 PM (WmgTn)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2017 05:27 PM (fceHP)
Don't know if he does...but I do.
Posted by: God at September 22, 2017 05:29 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Well, he shovels a lot of money into terrorist organizations, and he doesn't want that money going to waste!
He wants to see his team play!
Posted by: RKae at September 22, 2017 05:29 PM (hI/9G)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2017 05:29 PM (SjImc)
If Murflufski can be bribed into switching, there will be enormous pressure on Rand.
Posted by: phineas gage
Kodiak Kickback
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 05:29 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 22, 2017 05:30 PM (597Fz)
Yeah he is the very caricature of a Republican warmonger. he'd have had us in wars in China, North Korea, Africa, and God knows where else by now. He'd have used nukes. The guy is demented.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2017 05:30 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:30 PM (QkF23)
"Goodell now joining several anti-cop players to make a trip to the Philadelphia Police Dept to investigate the police for potential racism under the guise of "taking a closer look at the inner-workings of Philadelphia's criminal justice system."
The NFL is doomed.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 05:31 PM (3myMJ)
http://tinyurl.com/y8sapdbg
Oh, no wonder St. Louis is so screwed up!
Awarded by Alderman John Collins-Muhammed - that name tells you he's one of Louis Farrakhan's Black Muslim gang.
The most hard core black racist bunch in the country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2017 05:32 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: mallfly suPreme at September 22, 2017 05:32 PM (ILitO)
God: "Don't know if he does...but I do."
Too late. He's already following mine.
Posted by: Beelzebub at September 22, 2017 05:33 PM (H8S+R)
The NFL is doomed.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 22, 2017 05:31 PM (3myMJ)
Can the owners get rid of Goodell? How is he appointed?
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:33 PM (Enq6K)
"Goodell now joining several anti-cop players to make a trip to the Philadelphia Police Dept to investigate the police for potential racism under the guise of "taking a closer look at the inner-workings of Philadelphia's criminal justice system."
The NFL is doomed.
Posted by: Meremortal
Dear God, Goodell is going to run for office
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:34 PM (QkF23)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September
Don't mellow my harsh
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:36 PM (QkF23)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 05:36 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: Jean at September 22, 2017 05:36 PM (QkF23)
More innate deviance of the Democrat Party.
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They should take the crumpled, marked police car that he twice violently rammed with his car as he was attempting to escape from the cops who wanted to question him about his drug dealing activities, and set it up in front of City Hall as a testament to how poor, innocent Mr. Smith was just minding his own business when those evil white cops started chasing him for no damn good reason . . . .
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 22, 2017 05:37 PM (BXf9o)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 05:38 PM (QQ+il)
Don't slit your wrists. Too many people love and need you. What's the matter?. More messed up stuff about SIL and brother or additional things?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2017 05:39 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: phineas gage
Kodiak Kickback
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2017 05:29 PM (IqV8l)
I can deal with a Kodiak Kickback because the population is so small.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2017 05:39 PM (G0vdT)
Some nerd was telling me Corker's unopposed? WTF, can't no one go after him too?
Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 22, 2017 05:41 PM (XhN8Z)
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 22, 2017 05:43 PM (CNHr1)
The Senate election is a year from November. Most candidates don't announce a year in advance.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2017 05:44 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Tentotwo at September 22, 2017 05:45 PM (yhf6w)
Dimmy Kimmel only cares about his kids getting healthcare. No, not the ones he walked out on for Sarah Silverman. These new ones he had with wife number two or is it three.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 05:45 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:33 PM (Enq6K)
They won't ditch him until they start taking a hit in their pocketbooks. And that's not going to happen until the networks don't want to pay them as much because fewer people are actually watching.
Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2017 05:46 PM (z/Ubi)
Says it all doesn't it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2017 05:46 PM (auHtY)
Sorry; As you know people are usually not at all rational when they are under a lot of stress, so as hard as it may be not to take it personally right now, try to think of it as directed at you, but not about you. you just happen to be the person that's getting the emotional all out, but it sounds painful.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2017 05:52 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: buzzion at September 22, 2017 05:46 PM (z/Ubi)
That's gotta be by the end of this season. Especially if he/they go with the 'November anti-police protests'.
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2017 05:54 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: S at September 22, 2017 05:56 PM (poT2p)
Posted by: Tentotwo at September 22, 2017 05:45 PM (yhf6w)
We were talking about this elsewhere; McRINO would have been an absolutely miserable POS as President and Mutt Rombley not better. As Preznit, Cock Curious completely decimated the Democrat party like he would the sphincter of a South Pacific cabana boy. As counterintuitive as it sounds, I think things worked out as best they could have.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2017 06:07 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: PDT at September 22, 2017 06:29 PM (NrE3O)
he would the sphincter of a South Pacific cabana boy.
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Come for the smart-military blog.
Stay for the poetry.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 22, 2017 06:31 PM (NrE3O)
And he has Democrat cancer, because it doesn't deliver what it is supposed to do.
Everyone who is getting screwed from Obamacare should line up to piss on his grave, if this fucking cancer ever does it's job.
Posted by: a real American at September 22, 2017 06:57 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Robert Jenks at September 22, 2017 07:06 PM (VbLoi)
Posted by: Robert Jenks at September 22, 2017 07:08 PM (VbLoi)
1. Chuck Schumer pats you on the back and laughs.
2. You laugh with him.
3. ..
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 22, 2017 07:55 PM (Vi4HO)
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Posted by: DaveA at September 22, 2017 08:01 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at September 22, 2017 08:15 PM (4pjhs)
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