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Once Obama Began Illegally Spying On His Political Enemies, He Had to Keep Doing It To Find Some Crime to Justify His Lawbreaking -- Or Else He'll Be the Next Nixon

Bilstering piece by Daniel Greenfield.

Once Obama and his allies launched their domestic surveillance operation, they crossed the Rubicon. And there was no way back. They had to destroy President Trump or risk going to jail.

The more crimes they committed by spying on the opposition, the more urgently they needed to bring down Trump. The consequences of each crime that they had committed spurred them on to commit worse crimes to save themselves from going to jail. It’s the same old story when it comes to criminals.

Each act of illegal surveillance became more blatant. And when illegal surveillance couldn’t stop Trump’s victory, they had to double down on the illegal surveillance for a coup.

The more Obama spied on Trump, the more he had to keep doing it. This time it was bound to pay off.

Obama and his allies had violated the norms so often for their policy goals that they couldn’t afford to be replaced by anyone but one of their own. The more Obama relied on the imperial presidency of executive orders, the less he could afford to be replaced by anyone who would undo them. The more his staffers lied and broke the law on everything from the government shutdown to the Iran nuke sellout, the more desperately they needed to pull out all the stops to keep Trump out of office. And the more they did it, the more they couldn’t afford not to do it. Abuse of power locks you into the loop familiar to all dictators. You can’t stop riding the tiger. Once you start, you can’t afford to stop.

If you want to understand why Samantha Power was unmasking names, that’s why. The hysterical obsession with destroying Trump comes from the top down. It’s not just ideology. It’s wealthy and powerful men and women who ran the country and are terrified that their crimes will be exposed.

It’s why the media increasingly sounds like the propaganda organs of a Communist country. Why there are street riots and why the internet is being censored by Google and Facebook’s “fact checking” allies.

It's not just ideology. It's raw fear.

The left is sitting on the biggest crime committed by a sitting president. The only way to cover it up is to destroy his Republican successor.

A turning point in history is here.

If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends.

That's the conclusion, but don't think that's the only good part: the case he builds prior to that is also juicy.


Posted by: Ace at 04:25 PM




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1 1st?

Posted by: geoffb at September 20, 2017 04:24 PM (zOpu5)

2 You're only the next Nixon if the media & historians say you are. And they say he's the Chocolate Messiah.

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2017 04:24 PM (ANIFC)

3 I am not a crook. Well, maybe a little.

Posted by: B. Milhouse Obama at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (Tyii7)

4 Mueller is going to Scooter Libby somebody,probably Manafort.

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (rmVvL)

5 zzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz

Posted by: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (QQ+il)

6 This is my hope for the Mueller investigation. That they can't help but trip over Obama's lawbreaking and expose it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (pvjTE)

7 And nothing will come of it because Gowdy is a pussy.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (BoMuO)

8 I hate to admit this, but if it's in a grey box and isn't from a commenter, best case scenario is a perfunctory scan for content, first few words of each paragraph sort of thing.

Otherwise, I read what Ace or the Cobs say and infer the rest...

Does that make me a horrible person?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (hcyUh)

9 Looking forward to Obama's trial and convict-
*snort*

Damn it, ALMOST made it through that with a straight face.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 04:27 PM (xJa6I)

10 Wait until JEF reads that in the papers.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 20, 2017 04:27 PM (tbOMB)

11 Good content. SO much for 1st. Off to read the piece.

Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 04:27 PM (48QDY)

12 You won't have B. Milhouse to push around any longer!

Posted by: B. Milhouse Obama at September 20, 2017 04:27 PM (Tyii7)

13 Obama wasn't the New Nixon.

Nixon was the pre-figuration of Obama.

(Obscure Catholic Church reference.)

Posted by: zombie at September 20, 2017 04:27 PM (DQ4Fv)

14 Chief Justice John Roberts and the OCare decision

Does anyone doubt how that came about?

Posted by: Brendan at September 20, 2017 04:27 PM (ixSVB)

15 And of course the GOP is in on it too, since they were using the same corrupt systems and powers for their own ends. If the truth came out--the entire truth--that would be the end of the current, degenerate, sham "Republic".

All those in favor...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at September 20, 2017 04:27 PM (AM1GF)

16 4 Mueller is going to Scooter Libby somebody,probably Manafort.
Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (rmVvL)

I'll take "Sentences that would have made no sense 40 years ago, Alex."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (hcyUh)

17 Where's Woodward and Bernstein? Or does the press only hate political spying when a Republican president does it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (Mouru)

18 I suspect that they also fell into the trap of "knowing" Trump *had* to be dirty (since they are and everyone else is worse) and just had enough money to bury the bodies *really* deep. So they kept digging. And digging. Until they were trapped in the hole and couldn't pretend they were just walking by minding their own business.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (rp9xB)

19 What Nixon did was nothing new at the time,the pushback against him was new.

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (rmVvL)

20 Huh? What? What time is it?

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (Tyii7)

21 Why yes, I have indeed evolved from "Let It Burn" to "Pass The Kerosene", why do you ask...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (AM1GF)

22 12 You won't have B. Milhouse to push around any longer!
Posted by: B. Milhouse Obama


Strangely, Nixon's middle name didn't have an "e" at the end. It was just "Milhous".

Posted by: zombie at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (DQ4Fv)

23 And Mueller's goat rope will yeild at least 1 indictment and prison term, if not several from blatantly illegal wiretapping and made up Russia connections. And Gowdy will spend 3 years scuffing his shoes on an investigation that goes nowhere. IRS, FF, Benghazi.....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (BoMuO)

24 8 I hate to admit this, but if it's in a grey box and isn't from a commenter, best case scenario is a perfunctory scan for content, first few words of each paragraph sort of thing.

Otherwise, I read what Ace or the Cobs say and infer the rest...

Does that make me a horrible person?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (hcyUh)

Wise, more like

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (xJa6I)

25 6
This is my hope for the Mueller investigation. That they can't help but trip over Obama's lawbreaking and expose it.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (pvjTE)

Kidding, right? The one purpose of the Mueller investigation is to dig up enough dirt to make prosecution of obama and minions politically treacherous.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 20, 2017 04:29 PM (tbOMB)

26 Does that make me a horrible person?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM


Only you can prevent forest fires.

Posted by: Smokey the Bear at September 20, 2017 04:29 PM (ctuyM)

27 17 Where's Woodward and Bernstein?
Posted by: Cicero


Breitbart and O'Spades.

Posted by: zombie at September 20, 2017 04:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

28 The real "collusion" with the Russians will turn out to be the Obama administration especially the DOJ and Comey. All the Russian government wants is to sow distrust and discord in the US and the West. This worked for Obama too. For the Left believes out of chaos comes power for them.

Posted by: geoffb at September 20, 2017 04:29 PM (zOpu5)

29
ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZzzZZzzzzz....

Doctor Wilson, stop putting olives in my butt....zzzz

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at September 20, 2017 04:29 PM (NyJwR)

30 The "crime" he used for that FISA search and spying was based on that phony English spy document commonly called the "Dossier".


IOW he abused the law and found a useful idiot Democrat FISA judge.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 20, 2017 04:30 PM (mpXpK)

31 There. I feel much lighter.

Posted by: B. Milhous Obama at September 20, 2017 04:30 PM (Tyii7)

32 Where's Woodward and Bernstein? Or does the press only hate political spying when a Republican president does it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (Mouru)



MFM: What do you think, we have an agenda or something?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2017 04:30 PM (493sH)

33 All politicians have done something they can't have exposed. It's what keeps them from exposing each other.

"If you expose mine, then I'll expose yours."

But Trump isn't a politician, and doesn't have the same liabilities.

They can't have that.

Posted by: davidt at September 20, 2017 04:30 PM (12AHt)

34 Juicy?


or, Girthy?

Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2017 04:30 PM (OAGS/)

35 And yet, (s)he persisted.

F these f'ing F'ers.

Posted by: MeMyselfandI at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (yKjsG)

36 Remember when Peggy Noonan actually had some credibility?

Posted by: SFGoth at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (dZ756)

37 Ride the Tiger....to hell!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (WLK0w)

38 Gowdy will spend 3 years scuffing his shoes on making all his lawyer buddies fat loot in an investigation that goes nowhere. IRS, FF, Benghazi.....
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (BoMuO)

(suggested edit)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (hcyUh)

39 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?

Posted by: lowfibass at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (BrqlK)

40 I hate to admit this, but if it's in a grey box and isn't from a commenter, best case scenario is a perfunctory scan for content, first few words of each paragraph sort of thing.

Otherwise, I read what Ace or the Cobs say and infer the rest...

Does that make me a horrible person?



You read the content? You're supposed to read the headline, then angrily pound your keyboard. Oh wait, this isn't the Blaze. No you are about right.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (BoMuO)

41 Steevy: the difference will be that Trump isn't a pussy. The kindest option is that he pardons Manafort and then the Dems leave it.

At some point, worse options include Trump voters realizing that there is no law, so there is no need for enemy lawyers.

Posted by: trev006 at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (4Vhe3)

42 Remember when Peggy Noonan actually had some credibility?


Posted by: SFGoth at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (dZ756)
--------
Nope

Posted by: RioBravo at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (SsblQ)

43 Fire Mueller now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (Mouru)

44 When is Jeff the Keebler cookie elf Sessions going to do something useful?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (6Ll1u)

45 "Help, I've fallen down spying and I can't get up!"

Posted by: Obama's "Legacy" Life Alert Pendant at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (8IM54)

46 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?

Posted by: lowfibass


Crash the country? Maybe. Endanger the gravy train? Certainly.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (AM1GF)

47 This is my hope for the Mueller investigation. That they can't help but trip over Obama's lawbreaking and expose it.



Discovery should be fun.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (TyVba)

48 Oh, boy! Looks like I may possibly be in line for...a severe reprimand!

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (O5Q3r)

49
Have no fear! Meathead Reiner in on the Russian collusion case as we speak. Should have an answer to all of it any time now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (493sH)

50 Yeah, well, not holding my breath here.

Posted by: BebeDahl at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (yNyJy)

51 Down goes Obama!!! Down goes Obama!!!

What's all this about illegal activities?

Posted by: zombie howard cosell at September 20, 2017 04:33 PM (mJ8mX)

52 36 Remember when Peggy Noonan actually had some credibility?
Posted by: SFGoth at September 20, 2017 04:31 PM (dZ756)

Nope. I remember when she had novelty, but she wasn't much eve back in the day.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 04:33 PM (xJa6I)

53 All politicians have done something they can't have exposed. It's what keeps them from exposing each other.


Somebody should have told Weiner that.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 20, 2017 04:33 PM (BoMuO)

54 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?


Unpossible.

Posted by: Zombie Boss Tweed at September 20, 2017 04:33 PM (Tyii7)

55 FU Sonobi.

Posted by: Infidel at September 20, 2017 04:33 PM (bfUpy)

56 When Hillary lost the election, wasn't she or one of her henchmen quoted as saying, "We're all going to hang"?

Posted by: rickl at September 20, 2017 04:33 PM (xjiRE)

57 By far the strangest presidential middle-name trivia is about Truman.

His full, legal name was "Harry S Truman" -- with no period after the S!!!

Why not? Because the "S" didn't stand for anything!

You only put a period after an abbreviation to indicate that letters have been left off. But Harry's parents couldn't decide which "S"-name they wanted his middle name to be, so they compromised and just used the letter "S" all by itself.

Later in life, bowing to pressure, Truman himself occasionally put a period after the S, but he knew it was wrong and sometimes commented on it.

Posted by: zombie at September 20, 2017 04:33 PM (DQ4Fv)

58 what did Obama know and when did he know it?


you better run.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Sonobi Covfefe at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (nFwvY)

59 27 17 Where's Woodward and Bernstein?
Posted by: Cicero

Breitbart and O'Spades.
Posted by: zombie at September 20, 2017 04:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

Nice one.

But your nic should be up there too. You've slogged in the muck for a long time, kiddo. Proud of you, we are.

Posted by: moki at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (V+V48)

60
They could find Barry ordered assassinations of Americans and the MFM would ignore the story. Can't ruin the good name of their Dearest Leader

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (493sH)

61
IOW he abused the law and found a useful idiot Democrat FISA judge.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 20, 2017 04:30 PM (mpXpK)






By "useful idiot", I think you mean "willing co-conspirator".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (veoSD)

62 This has long been my theory on the whole thang ... a long line of Democrats and Deep State would be imprisoned or hung if a real justice department was allowed to function.

Sessions? idk, but he stepped down happily and quickly ... for some reason that was maybe not without some coercion. So they are fighting like a cornered animals ... hissing and spitting, but they have teeth, claws and venom -- and a hold the the bureaucracy.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (yKAUL)

63 @56 IIRC, that was real "fake news" or "fake news" "fake news" in Whoopi-speak.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (tbOMB)

64 I always said this guy would end up on the lam.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Sonobi Covfefe at September 20, 2017 04:35 PM (nFwvY)

65 That's how they're going to position this.

Sort of like a cop doing an illegal search, but look what they found!!!

I'm sure Manafort did something illegal with something bullshit like paperwork, but what Obama did is WAY worse than Nixon. Obama was actually engaging the NSA and CIA, Nixon's people were just campaign staff.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2017 04:35 PM (lKmt3)

66 It's a tax!

- Chief Justice Roberts

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 20, 2017 04:35 PM (6n332)

67 59 27 17 Where's Woodward and Bernstein?
Posted by: Cicero

Breitbart and O'Spades.
Posted by: zombie at September 20, 2017 04:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

Nice one.

But your nic should be up there too. You've slogged in the muck for a long time, kiddo. Proud of you, we are.
Posted by: moki at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (V+V4

agreed

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 04:35 PM (xJa6I)

68 Peggy Noonan? HAHAHA

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 20, 2017 04:35 PM (Jj+59)

69

Right now, Barry is shaking in his shoes. Well that's because he's got a vibrator shoved all the way up his ass

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2017 04:35 PM (493sH)

70 46 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?

Posted by: lowfibass

Crash the country? Maybe. Endanger the gravy train? Certainly.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at September 20, 2017 04:32 PM (AM1GF)

I probably have mentioned this elsewhere before, but I'm beginning to be convinced that it's basically swamp all the way down.

"Drain the Swamp" completely and there'll be nothing left.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:36 PM (hcyUh)

71 You can take the punk thug criminal (Obama) out of Chicago but you cannot take Obama from being a punk thug criminal.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me @ Intersectionality of Deplorable & Irredeemable at September 20, 2017 04:36 PM (Ftuf+)

72 >>>Asscheeks of Saturn

One of the under appreciated 'John Carter of Mars' books...

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 20, 2017 04:36 PM (dluXH)

73 Too bad someone like Rudy Giuliani isn't available.

That guy was fearless in his day.

A fearless prosecutor could bring down the whole Left and send the rest running-

But, nope.

All we got is Sleepy Jeff.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 20, 2017 04:36 PM (NyJwR)

74 Ouch! Blistering is an understatement.

Can we get someone to appoint Daniel Greenfield to the AG post?

Posted by: ShainS at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (VfRxT)

75 OT

St. Louis resident on police response to riot:

"It was militaristic, coordinated, antagonistic and intimidating", he said. "They were chanting and hitting the ground and their shin guards in unison with sticks."

[I know this is several days old, but it is damned amusing.]

Posted by: RioBravo at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (SsblQ)

76 Juicy?
or, Girthy?
Posted by: garrett at September 20, 2017 04:30 PM


Behold the power of a fully armed and operational AND!

Posted by: Darth Moron at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (ctuyM)

77 "Drain the Swamp" completely and there'll be nothing left.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:36 PM (hcyUh)


Feature, not a (mud)bug.

Posted by: RickZ at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (G6dXP)

78 Let's pretend that every word of the Golden Showers dossier was true. So what? It's abnormal & gross, but not illegal, and not any evidence that Trump conspired with Russia to hack into the DNC & Jon Podesta's computers.

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (ANIFC)

79 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?

Posted by: lowfibass

I fear exactly that. The only way we MAY get to the bottom of this is if they start turning on each other. If that happens, look out.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (7uYFy)

80 77 "Drain the Swamp" completely and there'll be nothing left.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 20, 2017 04:36 PM (hcyUh)

In America, swamp drain you!

Posted by: josephistan at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (ANIFC)

81 Gaylord and his posse, includding Hillary and Kerry, need to be locked up at Gitmo. And the key thrown away.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (N7KlP)

82
Greenfield is a national treasure. I link to him early and often. And he is spot on. We are at a crossroads here and now on almost every level. Trump has to win this. We have to win this.

All the marbles.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (mbhDw)

83 Too bad someone like Rudy Giuliani isn't available.

That guy was fearless in his day.

A fearless prosecutor could bring down the whole Left and send the rest running-

But, nope.

All we got is Sleepy Jeff.
Posted by: naturalfake

______

I feel the same way.

Giuiliani had balls, Sessions was just a lot of talk and folded at the first pushback he got.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (lKmt3)

84 One thing I find remarkable is that there isn't any real dirt on the guy, even after decades in the top echelons of the NYC real estate game.

I bet even most of us who supported him figured there was probably some creditable dirt *somewhere*.

He's a coozehound. That's about all they got. What a shocker. As if the entire world hadn't know that since the Eighties.

But the Mob, crooked union dealings, maybe prostitutes, all the crap you thought *might* have been found, wasn't.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (ul9CR)

85 Wake me up before you go-go. Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo.

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (Tyii7)

86 This Daniel Greenfield guy sounds like a racist. And a Nazi. Probably wears cotton too.

Posted by: Libiot at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (QtTzW)

87 zzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz

Posted by: Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III


Yeah. Greenfield may be right. They kept up an ever increasing loop out of desperation. But if Sessions doesn't shift into high gear soon, looks like the Choom gang's desperation was misplaced. They can all breathe a sigh of relief.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (/qEW2)

88 I'm betting Greenfield won't be taking any picnis in Ft Marcy Park.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (0tfLf)

89 Explains a lot!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (W+vEI)

90
Sessions? idk, but he stepped down happily and quickly ... for some reason that was maybe not without some coercion. So they are fighting like a cornered animals ... hissing and spitting, but they have teeth, claws and venom -- and a hold the the bureaucracy.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 20, 2017 04:34 PM (yKAUL)


It's a strange analogy, but fitting for Rosh Hoshanah, I suppose. I was at a conference of Holocaust Survivors, and one precious lady looked me in the eye and asked me, what would I do to save my children? I responded anything.

If these vermin threaten wives, children, grandchildren, what would you do? Because I have no doubt that is what they would do. That is what is so sickening about all of this.

And a blessed New Year for the Sons of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. May this year be better, sweeter and more just.

Posted by: moki at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (V+V48)

91 Obama and his cronies, just like HRC, was never going to jail, never going down like Nixon. Teh MSM would not allow it. The deep state would have to go with him, so they would not allow it. The judges are mostly in the hands of the left as it is.

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (EsHMF)

92 Mueller isn't looking for evidence of election tampering, he is looking for dirt to hold over the Trump administration to forestall indictments of members of the previous administration.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (7ZVPa)

93 Because NOBODY (who can actually do anything about it) has the courage and strength to dare stand up to The Living God Made Flesh, The King of Kalorama, The Jug-Eared Jehovah.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (WDCYi)

94 Pitiful that the media is covering for Obama when they themselves were subject to Obama's law breaking surveillance and violations of the First Amendment. The Party above everything else comrade.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (ODr92)

95 The history books of tomorrow will have some fun content.

Posted by: deplorable Texican (ette) at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (CjE8v)

96 If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends.

I hope zombie was right that Trump's election was a major turning point in history. We sure need it.

Posted by: rickl at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (xjiRE)

97 Anyone ever notice that Greenfield looks like a younger Eric Bloom (Blue Oyster Cult)?

Posted by: SFGoth at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (dZ756)

98 I read this, made a lot of sense

Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (ghofu)

99 75 OT

St. Louis resident on police response to riot:

"It was militaristic, coordinated, antagonistic and intimidating", he said. "They were chanting and hitting the ground and their shin guards in unison with sticks."

[I know this is several days old, but it is damned amusing.]
Posted by: RioBravo at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (SsblQ)

Well it should be. Crowd control is mostly teamwork and psychological intimidation. You control the mob before it gets worked up enough to realize they have the cops outnumbered.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 04:39 PM (xJa6I)

100 But the Mob, crooked union dealings, maybe prostitutes, all the crap you thought *might* have been found, wasn't.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (ul9CR)

I'm surprised they haven't even gotten people who he fired--or even businessmen who felt he snookered them on some deal-- to talk bad about him.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:40 PM (7uYFy)

101 Fortunately, Obama and his entire crew of fucksticks were so incompetent they had to rely on a bloody Limey turncoat to get the goods on Trump as he engaged in pee-pee parties with prostitutes. Or something.

Posted by: Fritz at September 20, 2017 04:40 PM (z74gh)

102 Obama and his cronies are just terrible people. terrible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 20, 2017 04:40 PM (iVOAv)

103 Dickie Greenleaf?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 20, 2017 04:40 PM (XFue2)

104 I appear to be more of the starry eyed Pollyanna that the late, lamented BFF said in all earnestness that I am because I am, honestly and truly, stunned by the number of allegedly intelligent people who believe that judges give actual review to search warrant applications rather than just rubber stamping them.

This is on every possible level in the US, from the smallest of small claims courts all the way up to and including FISA courts.

Judges don't question search warrant applications in any but the most rote manner, if that. The FISA court apologists say oh the 99% approval rate doesn't take into account the judge sending the application back. You're right. It doesn't. What that says is that the judges are not acting as overseers of those making the applications but rather as a partner in crafting the warrants. That's a very bad thing indeed.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at September 20, 2017 04:41 PM (mf5HN)

105 Maybe if Sessions smoked a little weed, he could get a new idea or two.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:41 PM (6Ll1u)

106
Mueller is going to Scooter Libby somebody,probably Manafort.

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2017 04:26 PM (rmVvL)


Isn't the point of these Federal investigations less to prosecute a crime and more to trip witnesses in perjury traps?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2017 04:41 PM (BWL+E)

107 79 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?

Posted by: lowfibass

I fear exactly that. The only way we MAY get to the bottom of this is if they start turning on each other. If that happens, look out.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:37 PM (7uYFy)

*****

I'm thinking let it crash.
We as a whole are better than the asshats in DC and the ones in the state capitals. A new America will emerge. Balkanized no doubt, but it'll be clear where you want to live.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 20, 2017 04:41 PM (0tfLf)

108 and yet they all get away with it. hillary, lerner, power, comey, crapper, etc., etc.

no one will stop them. no one will hold them to account. no one.

and trump? first thing he said about hillary after the election at a rally when the crowd repeated his slogan "lock her up" was "we're not going to do anything to her. right? [shrug, smirk] that was just the campaign. no, we're not doing anything to her".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 20, 2017 04:42 PM (AxFdW)

109 So disgusted with the AG.

No one will be punished except the innocent. Burdened with debt from hiring expensive lawyers, lives ruined.

Fuck them all.

I'm looking at you Gowdy.



Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 04:42 PM (79p/O)

110 First, you spy on and have your security goons do surveillance on your political and sexual enemies.

Second, you expel all citizens of Asian descent.

Three, you confiscate any white owned property and distribute the confiscated property to your black "veterans".

Four, you eat one or two slices of your political opponent's flesh to gain their powers and essences.

Fifth, you are President for Life!

Posted by: Barack Idi Amin Mugabe at September 20, 2017 04:42 PM (5VlCp)

111 He's a coozehound. That's about all they got. What a shocker. As if the entire world hadn't know that since the Eighties.



But the Mob, crooked union dealings, maybe prostitutes, all the crap you thought *might* have been found, wasn't.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:38 PM (ul9CR)

Yeah, what's funny about all this Mueller political witch hunt shenanigans is that the only thing they got, after using the state intelligence apparatus, is Manafort's pre- or extra-Trump dealings to which Trump likely has no connection, and for which may be tossed out for due process or evidentiary objections.

Conclusion: they got nothing.




Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 20, 2017 04:42 PM (tbOMB)

112 This ties a lot together.

It also explains why Jimmy Drama has been so anti-Trump.

He's at risk of exposure too. In fact, he's the best single target because he ties so much together. And because he's a sanctimoneous fuck!

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 20, 2017 04:42 PM (cAXIk)

113 105
Maybe if Sessions smoked a little weed, he could get a new idea or two.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

No sheet. At his age, what's he got to lose? It might fire up (NPI) his imagination a bit.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 20, 2017 04:43 PM (dZ756)

114 I'm surprised they haven't even gotten people who he fired--or even businessmen who felt he snookered them on some deal-- to talk bad about him.
Posted by: JoeF.

_________

They did, it just didn't really resonate.

Hillary brought some architect to the debate he supposedly stiffed. Then there was the Trump University silliness.

Trump brought all the women Bill raped/harassed over the years to the debate.

Posted by: Maritime at September 20, 2017 04:43 PM (lKmt3)

115 >>He's a coozehound.

Absolutely disgusting in a President.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 20, 2017 04:43 PM (/Nite)

116 I get the feeling that despite the best efforts of the media, the Dems , many GOPe, and Obama and Hillary and their minions---all of the criminality will be *exposed.*
The question is, will anyone pay a price?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:43 PM (7uYFy)

117 I'm totally comfortable with the Obama administration's ability to come up with some BS justification. But based on their rank incompetence at court cases while he was in office, its not going to be a very good one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 04:44 PM (39g3+)

118 115 >>He's a coozehound.

Absolutely disgusting in a President.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 20, 2017 04:43 PM (/Nite)

Word!

Posted by: zombie jfk at September 20, 2017 04:44 PM (XFue2)

119 Conservative Treehouse had an interesting point: with actual no-shit Russian involvement in the Dossier, we had the Russians and the Dems working semi-together, in *actual* collusion, for the purpose of attempting to substantiate imaginary collusion.

Which, in my phrasing, makes sense about as much as an insane child saying he murdered his parents because they might have starved him.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 20, 2017 04:45 PM (HtLSE)

120 I get the feeling that despite the best efforts of the media, the Dems , many GOPe, and Obama and Hillary and their minions---all of the criminality will be *exposed.*
The question is, will anyone pay a price?
===================

The question is, will anyone care? Will anyone care enough for it to get traction? I highly doubt it. The left is firmly planted in our culture. The denial is deep. Then there's the denial of the denial.

Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at September 20, 2017 04:45 PM (EsHMF)

121 Top. Men.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2017 04:46 PM (oVJmc)

122 Absolutely disgusting in a President.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 20, 2017 04:43 PM (/Nite)


Dad, you and Mom are killing my future political chances.

Posted by: Chelzebub at September 20, 2017 04:46 PM (G6dXP)

123 OT

St. Louis mayor complaining about the following:

Police clearing streets chanting: "Whose streets? Our streets."
Police chief saying: "Police owned" Sunday night

Inflammatory and such.

Posted by: RioBravo at September 20, 2017 04:46 PM (SsblQ)

124 I'm actually surprised that Comey hasn't been locked in stately library with a bottle of booze and a pistol loaded with one bullet....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:46 PM (7uYFy)

125 So where was Gorlick's wall?

Oh right protecting 'lone' wolf terrorists.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 20, 2017 04:47 PM (N7KlP)

126 27 17 Where's Woodward and Bernstein?
Posted by: Cicero

Breitbart and O'Spades.

Don't forget James O'Keef!

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at September 20, 2017 04:47 PM (fj+sl)

127 The Judge reviews the evidence presented to him for the warrant. I don't think he has his office do an investigation to determine if that evidence was manufactured or fraudulent beyond asking questions to its procurement.

I know some judges have gone ballistic and pursued the requesters after finding out what was presented to the court was fraudulent or half truths.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 20, 2017 04:47 PM (ODr92)

128 Okay, Barry. You caught me. I rubbed one out in a moment of weakness and I am totes guilty.

Posted by: Donny Two Scoops at September 20, 2017 04:48 PM (z74gh)

129 We live in a oligarchy, they just forgot to tell you about it.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:48 PM (6Ll1u)

130 I can't believe any of this. The democrats have told us repeatedly, since the '70's that we don't spy on Americans. It is not who we are, and it is not what we do. There were laws passed so this spying on US citizens couldn't happen.

If you can't trust the democrats to keep their word, who can you trust?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 20, 2017 04:48 PM (m9X4Y)

131 Didn't Giuliani refuse the postion? I'm frustrated with Sessions at this point too but "if only Giuliani..." won't get us any further than "if only" all those preferred candidates who dropped out and quit before the election.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 20, 2017 04:48 PM (rp9xB)

132 hmm, over at intsapunit...

some shit professor tells students who voted for trump to GTFO. because KKK. obviouisly.

I think...and hear me out...the trump should do the war on these types of assholes. I heard obama did things like spy on trump and company. even arrested a film maker.

war.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 04:48 PM (XhN8Z)

133 The'll get away with it cause there are no crazy kids investigating.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 20, 2017 04:49 PM (BoMuO)

134
After reading this, I am about at the point where I do not want to take a chance on any more elections. I would not be averse to a General Pinochet taking over and just administering one way helicopter rides over Chesapeake Bay.

Because if God forbid a Democrat gets elected, then in the quiet words of Brick-Top, the pigs will finish what the dogs leave behind.

Us or them is rapidly becoming a choice we will have to face.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 04:49 PM (mbhDw)

135 -- If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends. --

Sadly, a rather large fraction of the GOP would prefer to save Obama and the Left rather than vindicate Trump. There are surely further twists to be navigated. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 20, 2017 04:49 PM (mj4NC)

136
All the crap the Democrats and their Antifa/MSM minions have ginned up since the election: what hasn't blown up in their faces?

Recount! Faithless electors! Women Trump assaulted! Election certification in Congress! Emoluments! Russia! All nonsense. All of them damaging to the accusers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 20, 2017 04:49 PM (BWL+E)

137
The question is, will anyone care? Will anyone care enough for it to get traction? I highly doubt it. The left is firmly planted in our culture. The denial is deep. Then there's the denial of the denial.
Posted by: Charles Ullyses Farleigh at September 20, 2017 04:45 PM (EsHMF)

I think it would resonate to some degree. It might peel off a few fence-sitters. It would piss off the Trump Derangement Sufferers who might actually take it out on the likes of Maddow and Colbert for "promising" them impeachment. The fallout would definitely inoculate Trump against almost anything short of murder.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:50 PM (7uYFy)

138 From WZ: Hillary says she's like...get this.., PAULA REVERE, sounding the alarm about Russian Meddling.

How. Fucking. Nauseating.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 04:50 PM (79p/O)

139 And nobody will do anything about this. And all the democrats lived happily ever after. The end.

Posted by: Strobe at September 20, 2017 04:50 PM (gbWkA)

140 Hoping he had some lawyers look at that before hitting "send."

Posted by: m at September 20, 2017 04:50 PM (9egmK)

141 first the global warming nuts have to admit that the ScienT! doesn't fit the data.

Now the Obamaloons will have to admit he went Nixon.

Oh, this winning. May the god emperor continue to rain us in his goodwill of win.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 04:50 PM (XhN8Z)

142 It's up to Trump and the citizenry to make sure these traitors are punished.

If Trump won't do it, then it's up to the citizens

We have contentiously seen LE fail to fulfill it's oath to defend the Constitution or to uphold the law.

For anyone in LE...it's decision time: Americans, or the same corrupt politicians that stab you in the back repeatedly. A free market, or social collapse a la Venezuela.

Every single "sanctuary city" politician and burrocrat is guilty of 8 USC 1324 violation.

The RICO case against the democong party as a whole is linked in nic

Posted by: Grad School Fool at September 20, 2017 04:50 PM (swEzU)

143 hmmm...if they get away with it.

Still gonna be a crime when GOP 2.0 sweeps out the old cux fux who sux in 2018.

Sorry, god emperor, Strange ain't no war time senator.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 04:51 PM (XhN8Z)

144 When's that new earth shattering O'Keeffe News coming out again?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:51 PM (6Ll1u)

145 You can leak the results of the FISA surveillance to the NYT, harder to explain mere surveillance. Bc we all know that happened, too.

Posted by: Ever at September 20, 2017 04:52 PM (QZdJj)

146 One good thing-two actually, is that Trump is keeping records of this and he has lots of lawyer,s and I really don't think Trump likes people coming after him when he's knows the O administration is so corrupt, he's not going to go away quietly because he's know they'll go after him hammer and tongs even after he would be forced from office. He knows about the mon. Now he's known about the political mob.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 20, 2017 04:52 PM (iVOAv)

147 bunch of boobs

Posted by: Br( . ) ( . )ke Baldwin at September 20, 2017 04:52 PM (XFue2)

148 Didn't Giuliani refuse the postion? I'm frustrated with Sessions at this point too but "if only Giuliani..." won't get us any further than "if only" all those preferred candidates who dropped out and quit before the election.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 20, 2017 04:48 PM (rp9xB)

I just think Rudy got too "old" for the job. He's missed a step or too. Something ain't right with him.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:52 PM (7uYFy)

149
From WZ: Hillary says she's like...get this.., PAULA REVERE, sounding the alarm about Russian Meddling.


Well, fuck Paula Revere and the horse she rode in on.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 20, 2017 04:52 PM (O5Q3r)

150 Judges don't question search warrant applications in any but the most rote manner, if that. The FISA court apologists say oh the 99% approval rate doesn't take into account the judge sending the application back. You're right. It doesn't. What that says is that the judges are not acting as overseers of those making the applications but rather as a partner in crafting the warrants. That's a very bad thing indeed.

Posted by: alexthechick - I got your gravitas right here at September 20, 2017 04:41 PM (mf5HN)


Even if they did question the doc submitted with the application, a lot of them were based on that bogus 'dossier'.

Posted by: Tami at September 20, 2017 04:52 PM (Enq6K)

151 139 And nobody will do anything about this. And all the democrats lived happily ever after. The end.

*******

I say, suh, I say...my sacred honor as a gentleman requires that I don't impugn these fine fellows who call us all KKK nazis.

xo

you know who.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 04:52 PM (XhN8Z)

152 >>> The'll get away with it cause there are no crazy kids investigating.

What about these 4skin kids I keep hearing about?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 20, 2017 04:53 PM (dluXH)

153 Didn't Obama flee the country for a few weeks at first? Conspiracy theory might say he was waiting to see if the Comey/Rosenstein/Mueller coup would work.

Now that it has worked and Trump is controlled by establishment goons, Sessions is on stand down mode, no prosecutions ... safe for Obama to come back. heh

Posted by: illiniwek at September 20, 2017 04:53 PM (yKAUL)

154 In an effort to be... uncharacteristically... cautiously optimistic:

Trump was elected because enough people know about The Scam.

As time goes on, more people are learning about The Scam.

Posted by: davidt at September 20, 2017 04:53 PM (12AHt)

155 the comment above about trump having lawyers.

well, the point to be a lawyer is to make the money, so it'd be good if right wing nut job lawyers start making the money because they are blessed with the winning

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 04:53 PM (XhN8Z)

156 I am NOT a Dick!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Nixon at September 20, 2017 04:53 PM (JoQAu)

157 >>>When's that new earth shattering O'Keeffe News coming out again?

When's his rent due?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 20, 2017 04:53 PM (dluXH)

158 Nixon was a piker compared to this bunch.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 04:54 PM (79p/O)

159 138 From WZ: Hillary says she's like...get this.., PAULA REVERE, sounding the alarm about Russian Meddling.

How. Fucking. Nauseating.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 04:50 PM (79p/O)


She's not even Paula Poundstone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 04:54 PM (mbhDw)

160 Barack Obama engaged in anti-Constitutional behavior? And his Handmaids are telling false tales about their own crimes?

What a shock.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 20, 2017 04:55 PM (LISuA)

161 Rudy's definitely showing some old-age signs, has been the last year or so.

I like the guy a lot but I didn't want him as AG.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:55 PM (ul9CR)

162 160 Barack Obama engaged in anti-Constitutional behavior? And his Handmaids are telling false tales about their own crimes?

What a shock.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man

_________

but he's still too popular for the political party that gained control over every branch of govt and gained historically winnings during his regime to actually talk shit bad about him.

Like I say, this stuff's still gonna be a crime when GOP 2.0 sweeps out the old cux fux who sux in 2018.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 04:56 PM (XhN8Z)

163 Trey Gowdy was my first choice for AG, but I'm willing to give Sessions time. None of us know what is going on behind the scenes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 04:56 PM (39g3+)

164 Spying on Americans? That's just not who we are and it stops now. From this day forward, Barack Obama will no longer improperly use FISA courts to spy on Americans.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 20, 2017 04:57 PM (BoMuO)

165 Nixon never should have had to resign over such petty, third-rate political dirty trickery that he didn't even know about.

If his own party of cucks hadn't turned on him, he wouldn't have had to.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:57 PM (ul9CR)

166 Nixon was a piker compared to this bunch.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 04:54 PM (79p/O)

That's the other narrative they must protect at all costs.
Nixon is supposed to be the WORST guy ever to become president, a war criminal and as corrupt as the day is long. Woodward and Bernstein have been dining off that for decades.
If people ever realize that what Nixon did is NOTHING compared to what Obama did, that would be the worst thing for the Democrats.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 20, 2017 04:57 PM (7uYFy)

167 I'm sure we're moments away from Rob Reiner mounting a Hollywood $-infused hunt to expose the criminals in the Obama administration. Annnny second now.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 20, 2017 04:58 PM (mQ0Mc)

168 If his own party of cucks hadn't turned on him, he wouldn't have had to.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:57 PM (ul9CR)


Once a Stupid Party, always a Stupid Party.

Posted by: filbert at September 20, 2017 04:58 PM (s5o+q)

169 159 Wasn't Paula Poundstone a pedo?

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2017 04:58 PM (rmVvL)

170 135 -- If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends. --

Sadly, a rather large fraction of the GOP would prefer to save Obama and the Left rather than vindicate Trump. There are surely further twists to be navigated. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at September 20, 2017 04:49 PM (mj4NC)


If one looks at why the IRS Political Persecution scandal went nowhere, or why the Iran Sellout went forward, it is obvious that the GOP-e was a willing partner with the Democrats.

Hence, whatever comes is revealed from this or from Debbie Moldi-Locks' hard drive or Clinton's missing e-mails is going to reveal not just the fact that the Democrat Party as a whole is a criminal organization with a pattern of criminal behavior, but that many in the GOP are co-conspirators.

QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 04:58 PM (mbhDw)

171 it is pretty scary to think that the DNC were that confident that they would never lose again that they would just be able to sweep this shizit under the table...

or NOT sweep it under the table but hand these tools over to uncle hillary when she wobbled into offic.e

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (XhN8Z)

172 but I'm willing to give Sessions time. None of us know what is going on behind the scenes.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 04:56 PM (39g3+

I suspect nap time.

Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (48QDY)

173 I'm hungry, it's time for omelets all 'round.

Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (Sc+fF)

174 I seem to recall that Blago was brought down by wiretaps. Remember hearing him talk about getting something for his appointment of the IL Senator (ValJar was in contention, but he blew her off). The Chicago Way. If BHO could have found something, anything, it would all be out there. What little they had on Kelly was out there immediately.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (MIKMs)

175 I hope zombie was right that Trump's election was a major turning point in history.

JFK's moon shot speech gave us two decades of advances in aerospace technology, until the democrats succeeded in strangling the program.

Reagan's 'tear down this wall' speech got us about ten years, but only the years Reagan was in the White House really mattered.

I don't think Trump's UN speech is going to change anything at all unless he pulls the US out of the UN and orders the UN out of the United States, and I don't think he'll go that far. So it's a moot point.

The democrats abandon Vietnam, and our space program. The abandon Iraq, and Obama stirred up a mess in Northern Africa that could well change Europe into something that rejects two thousand years of western civilization.


I don't think Trump can drive the money changers out of the temple unless he starts beating on their heads with pikes, and hangs a few from their ankles.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (m9X4Y)

176 What Nixon did is equivalent to shoplifting Bazooka Joe bubble gum from the five and dime.

Obama and his minions on the other hand...

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (79p/O)

177 What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (6Ll1u)

178 "Spying on Americans and political opponents is not who we are in this country. This is not the Barack Obama I know."
--Barack Obama

"Statesmanlike. Glorious. Towering genius. We as America can put this behind us now and move on to the pressing problems of the day."
-The legacy media

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 05:00 PM (39g3+)

179 161 Rudy's definitely showing some old-age signs, has been the last year or so.

I like the guy a lot but I didn't want him as AG.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:55 PM (ul9CR)


Battled and beat prostate cancer IIRC just before or after 9/11/01.

Yeah, he's probably not the best choice just from an age/health standpoint.

I say put in J. Christian Adams and have him fire en masse the entire Civil Rights Division.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 05:00 PM (mbhDw)

180 Bilstering? Sounds like a cheap and nasty act committed with a cigar in the oval....office.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (k+zgr)

181 177 What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (6Ll1u)

His?

Suit and tie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (xJa6I)

182 I'd love to picture Barry Obama and T-Dog in prison together, but it will never happen. T-Dog, yes. The One? No way.

If Obama, or the Beast, ever spend time in the Big House, I'll....I'll....I'll....

*self censors*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (PY9jH)

183 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 20, 2017 04:55 PM (ul9CR)

Exactly. We need to look beyond him to someone younger. I admit I don't know who can be trusted to be the attack dog we need. An attack dog is what it's going to take though.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (rp9xB)

184 159 Wasn't Paula Poundstone a pedo?
Posted by: steevy

Hmmm, maybe she is related to Hairy Reed.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (79p/O)

185 >>I don't think Trump can drive the money changers out of the temple
unless he starts beating on their heads with pikes, and hangs a few from
their ankles.

You're going to need a bigger rope.

Posted by: Hillary at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (/Nite)

186 MSM became so soft on covering the Obamans that they thought they could get away with anything.

Which is why they overplayed.

FFS, key parts of MSM were doing the leaking at the behest of the Obamans.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (cAXIk)

187 I can confirm lots of juiceboxes behind the AG Sessions scene.

Posted by: Br( . ) ( . )ke Baldwin at September 20, 2017 05:01 PM (XFue2)

188 Hello Rip Van Sessions...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (O2RFr)

189 My friends, we have nothing to fear from Barack Obama in the White House. John Maverick McCain.

When did that tumor start affecting his mental process? Hum..

Posted by: Strobe at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (gbWkA)

190 105 Maybe if Sessions smoked a little weed, he could get a new idea or two.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:41 PM (6Ll1u)



"Hmmm ... I'd like to get some Doritos ... "

Posted by: Jess Sessions getting an idea while smoking weed at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (SRKgf)

191 I'll get to the bottom of this.

Posted by: Max Headroom Gowdy at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (mcI77)

192 Poundstone was charged with sexual indecency with an under 14 minor (female) but the charges were dropped.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (YsNvC)

193 The premise here is that Obama and his minions were motivated by their 'raw fear' they would be caught and then face the consequences of their actions.

I don't buy it. Why would any of them--especially Obama--fear the legal consequences of their actions? Does anyone believe The First Black President will ever face the consequences of his actions?

As just one example, look at Hillary Clinton: she knowingly sent and received highly sensitive and classified information over a private server run out of a bathroom, a crime that would put any lesser being in Leavenworth for years. Years.

No, they were motivated to keep committing crimes because crime--for them--is how they do business.

These people treat the law like a hooker dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl. None of them will go to jail for any of this, not one, and they know it.

Posted by: troyriser at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (4qf5a)

194 What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (6Ll1u)



The Village People

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (493sH)

195 189 My friends, we have nothing to fear from Barack Obama in the White House. John Maverick McCain.

When did that tumor start affecting his mental process? Hum..
Posted by: Strobe at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (gbWkA)


In Soviet McCain brain, mental process affect tumor!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 05:03 PM (mbhDw)

196 The search for One Honest Man (or, what the hell, Woman) in D.C. is likely to be in vain, I fear.

Posted by: filbert at September 20, 2017 05:03 PM (s5o+q)

197 I say put in J. Christian Adams and have him fire en masse the entire Civil Rights Division.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 05:00 PM (mbhDw)

...

If only.

Except I bet Jeff Sessions would finally rouse himself to say something.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 20, 2017 05:03 PM (yL25O)

198 Greenfield re-weaves a lot of the stray threads and we get a pretty good look at the original tapestry...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2017 05:03 PM (oVJmc)

199 T200!

Posted by: Weasel at September 20, 2017 05:03 PM (Sfs6o)

200 Where's Woodward and Bernstein? Or does the press only hate political spying when a Republican president does it?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2017 04:28 PM (Mouru)


Those two numbnuts had to have everything spoon fed to them by Mark Felt, a bitter piece of shit who fed them half truths with a few nuggets of facts and out and out lies. I think Bernstein's been on a continuous bender since then since he looks like a homeless person whenever CNN and MessNBC run out of more interesting people to have on. Woodward looks like he's suffering from a grand mal whenever he is on any show, speaking very haltingly and generally sounding out of it. Not exactly the gold standard in credibility about anything other than self promotion.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 20, 2017 05:03 PM (y7DUB)

201 We're on it!

Posted by: Rob Reiner, Morgan Freeman, Russia hunters! at September 20, 2017 05:04 PM (O2RFr)

202 Did you know you can carve soap pretty easily? Ivory butt plugs.

Posted by: J. Sessions at September 20, 2017 05:04 PM (mcI77)

203 "If Obama, or the Beast, ever spend time in the Big House, I'll....I'll....I'll...."



Eat your hat?

Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 05:04 PM (Sc+fF)

204 If you follow the link to the original article, the comments from the Obama supporters are pretty funny.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 20, 2017 05:04 PM (EyPfd)

205 188 Hello Rip Van Sessions...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (O2RFr)


Greg Jarret openly called for Deputy Dawg to resign on his show last night.

Sadly, I concur. Unless, and it's a BIG unless, he is about to hand down mass indictments on Obama, Soros and Clinton and everyone related to them.

And the odds of that are about the same as me going back in time and having a 3-way with Ann Margret and Raquel Welch.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (mbhDw)

206 Trey Gowdy is NOT up to the job.

Also, his hair is very distracting.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (79p/O)

207 >>Except I bet Jeff Sessions would finally rouse himself to say something.

Posted by: TexasDan

I'd like another glass of prune juice!

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (/Nite)

208 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?

Posted by: lowfibass

I fear exactly that. The only way we MAY get to the bottom of this is if they start turning on each other. If that happens, look out.
Posted by: JoeF.


PDT is still CoC. Even if everything comes tumbling down, he could always institute a military dictatorship, which would bring some measure of stability. The Deep State may fester in the armed forces as well, but I don't think it's as bad as in, say, the intelligence communities.

Even if the tumor weighs more than the patient, still better to cut out the tumor. So let's do it and see what happens.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (/qEW2)

209 Any indictment of Obama or his underlings could lead to civil war. Any conviction would certainly lead to the burning down that should have happened during the last administration, not this one. I am torn by this. We are once again in a no-win situation.

Posted by: goon at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (EaQ6/)

210 What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?

Mesh half shirt, leather vest, thong, and chaps. Dog collar around the neck with a leash.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (39g3+)

211 Word has it that cookies and milk are active behind the AG Sessions scenes.

Posted by: Br( . ) ( . )ke Baldwin at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (XFue2)

212 >>>>Mueller is going to Scooter Libby somebody,probably Manafort.
.
.
.Correct, he is the next Scooter Libby but it appears he is not going to go meekly into the night like Scooter did. .

H/T to hillary (I landed under sniper fire in Bosnia" clinton) for the quote at the end of the sentence above.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 20, 2017 05:06 PM (+Dllb)

213 -
--

What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?



Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM

------------------------------

They'd be twinks wearing Elton John getups.

Posted by: irright at September 20, 2017 05:06 PM (pMGkg)

214 >>>These people treat the law like a hooker dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl.<<<

I'd like to read your most recent newsletter.

Posted by: Donny Two Scoops at September 20, 2017 05:06 PM (z74gh)

215
Those two numbnuts had to have everything spoon fed to them by Mark Felt, a bitter piece of shit who fed them half truths with a few nuggets of facts and out and out lies.


Mark Felt, another star of our 'Intelligence Community' out for his own power and glory.

Back to Hoover, through most eras of the State Department, and right up to Mueller and Comey, our best and brightest are some of the most amoral scum you could ever fear getting into positions of power.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2017 05:06 PM (oVJmc)

216 206 Trey Gowdy is NOT up to the job.

Also, his hair is very distracting.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (79p/O)
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He also has a very skinny head.

Posted by: Weasel at September 20, 2017 05:07 PM (Sfs6o)

217 Clinton did worse than Nixon but he got away with it thanks to DIABLOs like Snarlin' Arlen

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 20, 2017 05:07 PM (mpXpK)

218 "Greg Jarret openly called for Deputy Dawg to resign on his show last night."
**************************


Greg has found his voice.

Good

Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 05:07 PM (Sc+fF)

219 Judicial watch is trying to expose this... Props to them..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 20, 2017 05:07 PM (O2RFr)

220
What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?


Assless chaps, ballgags, pussy hats.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2017 05:07 PM (oVJmc)

221 I've never cared much for Giuliani. The first I became aware of him was when he was doing his frame-up of Michael Milken.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2017 05:07 PM (QQ+il)

222 206 Trey Gowdy is NOT up to the job.

Also, his hair is very distracting.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (79p/O)


He has done nothing, along with Darrel Issa who has done less than that, for all their loud pronouncements these past years. Waste.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 05:08 PM (mbhDw)

223 Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?


I am certain that's exactly what it is. That its too deep, too shot through every level of every branch of government, and too entrenched to ever get rooted out this side of the burning times.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 05:08 PM (39g3+)

224 Judicial watch is trying to expose this... Props to them..

Yep. They have done more than every Republican office holder combined.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2017 05:08 PM (QQ+il)

225 Greg Jarret openly called for Deputy Dawg to resign on his show last night."
**************************


Greg has found his voice.

Good
Posted by: gNewt

I was very surprised by Jarret.
Well thought out and spoken with authority.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:08 PM (79p/O)

226 I feel very Bilstered

Posted by: Mega at September 20, 2017 05:08 PM (rv0Fo)

227 215 New movie on the way with Liam Neeson as Mark Felt.Odds he is made a hero?

Posted by: steevy at September 20, 2017 05:09 PM (rmVvL)

228 Couldn't Sessions at least meet with Melanie on the tarmac in one of Trump's private jets so they could discuss ' grand children' ?

That's what AGs are suppose to do.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (ODr92)

229 He has done nothing, along with Darrel Issa who has done less than that, for all their loud pronouncements these past years. Waste.

And what happened to Nunes?Months back he had stuff so damning that he brought them to Trump personally and Zap, He' has to recuse himself ...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (O2RFr)

230 222 206 Trey Gowdy is NOT up to the job.

Also, his hair is very distracting.
Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (79p/O)


He has done nothing, along with Darrel Issa who has done less than that, for all their loud pronouncements these past years. Waste.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 05:08 PM (mbhDw)

They're both part of the Establishment now.
Trump threatens their phony baloney jobs, so they aren't going to do jack or shit until he's out.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (xJa6I)

231 Weasel- I sent you an email. Did you receive it?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (TReXc)

232 He has done nothing, along with Darrel Issa who has done less than that, for all their loud pronouncements these past years.

What is he gonna do as a congressman? Hearings is all the power they have for law enforcement: bring out the truth and hope justice acts on it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (39g3+)

233 Whoa ... I'm glad I didn't live in your time. Your government is really freaking me out.

Posted by: Franz Kafka at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (/qEW2)

234 104,
"Judges don't question search warrant applications in any but the most
rote manner, if that. The FISA court apologists say oh the 99%
approval rate doesn't take into account the judge sending the
application back."



And yet in July 2016 they had one turned down, one they re-crafted and got approved in October. The re-crafting was supposedly eliminating Trump's name from the warrant. The October one may have been the Manafort warrant but it might have been done earlier and October was others involved in the campaign. Flynn? Bannon?


Posted by: geoffb at September 20, 2017 05:11 PM (zOpu5)

235 These people treat the law like a hooker dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl. None of them will go to jail for any of this, not one, and they know it.
Posted by: troyriser at September 20, 2017 05:02 PM (4qf5a)

They don't fear the system... they have that rigged...

But they do understand that the US Citizenry has a historic trend of losing it collective shit every once in awhile...

We lost our temper... and took on the British empire... TWICE...

The North lost its temper, and destroyed the South for generations...

We leveled Germany... and then dropped Nukes on Japan...

The Anger of a Righteous Man who has been wronged, is a very powerful and dangerous thing.

If they truly think, we are what they constantly accuse us of being.... we must scare the Holy Crap out of them...

Note... Militias and White groups are under constant surveillance by the FBI... yet BLM and AntiFa are somehow off their radar.....

Why? They understand where the true threat lies.

Posted by: Don Q. at September 20, 2017 05:11 PM (NgKpN)

236 What is he gonna do as a congressman? Hearings is all the power they have for law enforcement: bring out the truth and hope justice acts on it.

You talking to me... yawn...

Posted by: Snoozing Sessions at September 20, 2017 05:11 PM (O2RFr)

237 I sure wish Trump would have named me as Attorney General. Instead, he nominated that doddering old fool from Alabama. I would have been a dynamo by comparison.

* slurps cream of cauliflower soup *

* falls asleep *

Posted by: Thad Cochran at September 20, 2017 05:11 PM (j+dfT)

238 The hearings are useless. Blowhard gasbags who do nothing.

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (79p/O)

239 Both leakers

Mark Felt was Deep Throat

Comey does Deep Throat

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (ODr92)

240 At some point, worse options include Trump voters realizing that there is no law, so there is no need for enemy lawyers.

Posted by: trev006


I said two things during the Trumpenkriegen last year. Trump is the last stop before the shooting, and if you hate Trump, you'll really hate what takes his place.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (AM1GF)

241 Gummi Bears and Animal Crackers show up behind the scenes when AG Sessions stays up past 8pm.

Posted by: Br( . ) ( . )ke Baldwin at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (XFue2)

242 Yeah, I've occasionally asked rhetorically what the taxpayers might save by disbanding much of DOJ and instead just funding Judicial Watch a few other similar outfits.

To date, they have unearthed more info, and produced more results, than the Congress and the DOJ combined.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (QDnY+)

243 Are we still doing weiner jokes, cause I live for those....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (dCikz)

244 163,
"Trey Gowdy was my first choice for AG, but I'm willing to give Sessions
time. None of us know what is going on behind the scenes."


True, if it doesn't leak you don't know until an indictment and arrest.

Posted by: geoffb at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (zOpu5)

245 There was NO risk they would ever go to jail.

Only Republicans would be prosecuted for such a crime. Grow up.

Posted by: Xeno at September 20, 2017 05:12 PM (9bNq3)

246 231 Weasel- I sent you an email. Did you receive it?
Posted by: Ben Had at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (TReXc)
--------
Hey Ben - nothing yet!

Posted by: Weasel at September 20, 2017 05:13 PM (Sfs6o)

247 "Anyone get the feeling that the corruption is so big that no one WILL expose it because it will crash the entire country?
Cats and dogs sleeping together, etc. etc....?"




The people that entertain these thoughts are the same people that do not understand consent of the governed.

We are the government not their pasty asses and we can do quite well without them.

Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 05:13 PM (Sc+fF)

248 but if it's in a grey box and isn't from a commenter, best case scenario
is a perfunctory scan for content, first few words of each paragraph
sort of thing.



Otherwise, I read what Ace or the Cobs say and infer the rest...



Does that make me a horrible person?


What's your hurry, after a Weiner thread we're bound to be out of dick jokes - for a refractory period.

Posted by: DaveA at September 20, 2017 05:13 PM (FhXTo)

249 Quick! Someone send AG Sessions a pallet of Boost!

Posted by: mpfs, Not My Circus..Not My Sonobis at September 20, 2017 05:13 PM (79p/O)

250 232 He has done nothing, along with Darrel Issa who has done less than that, for all their loud pronouncements these past years.

What is he gonna do as a congressman? Hearings is all the power they have for law enforcement: bring out the truth and hope justice acts on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (39g3+)

Hearings are SUPOSED to be there as fact finding venues so they can fix things through either legislation, or the power of the purse...

Both of which powers, the Majority in both Houses, have somehow failed to use.

Posted by: Don Q. at September 20, 2017 05:13 PM (NgKpN)

251 We didn't just dodge a bullet in the last election, we dodged nuclear weapons. The Left didn't intend to simply defeat Trump. They intended to crush and humiliate him and his supporters and make them so unacceptable in either the Republican or Democratic party that they would be crushed as a political force for all time and never raise such voices again.

Posted by: cool breeze at September 20, 2017 05:14 PM (TKf/P)

252 The hearings are useless. Blowhard gasbags who do nothing.

Sure, they are now, but they didn't used to be. Heads used to roll when someone had a congressional hearing and awful stuff came out. Now the press covers it up and justice department looks the other way.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 05:14 PM (39g3+)

253 He also has a very skinny head.
Posted by: Weasel at September 20, 2017 05:07 PM (Sfs6o)



History shows that South Carolina voters are easily swayed by an extremely skinny head.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 20, 2017 05:15 PM (Mouru)

254 If you hated TGE, you're gonna love hero of Chile, the Hammer of the Right, pilot of the chopper of state, Augusto Pinochet.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 20, 2017 05:15 PM (fA1SL)

255 the current, degenerate, sham "Republic".



All those in favor...?


Let's replace the entire DC apparat, pension them off and start over. It's bound to be an improvement.

Posted by: DaveA at September 20, 2017 05:15 PM (FhXTo)

256 214 >>>These people treat the law like a hooker dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl.

I'd like to read your most recent newsletter.

Posted by: Donny Two Scoops at September 20, 2017 05:06 PM (z74gh)


There's photos right? Tell me there's photos.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 20, 2017 05:15 PM (dCikz)

257 Where is the law
You said that we would see
Soon as you were CIC
Will it ever be
Where is the law


Where is the law
You said was ours, till the end of time
Was it just a lie
Where is the law

Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 05:15 PM (Sc+fF)

258 I have sent Issa an email to tell him that I will donate to his opponent, and even vote for his democratic opponent. Because he is a useless billionaire fuck, just go away.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 05:15 PM (6Ll1u)

259 232 He has done nothing, along with Darrel Issa who has done less than that, for all their loud pronouncements these past years.

What is he gonna do as a congressman? Hearings is all the power they have for law enforcement: bring out the truth and hope justice acts on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 20, 2017 05:10 PM (39g3+)

You get on your soapbox until somebody listens to you. Until the whole country knows what you know. You don't say ' oh well I did what I could at the hearings'

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 20, 2017 05:16 PM (ODr92)

260 fuck that jug-eared fuck in his Reggie-Love-shaped squeakhole

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at September 20, 2017 05:16 PM (27KAF)

261
Nobody (from the obama admin) will be imprisoned, convicted, prosecuted, indicted or investigated.

Posted by: ArthurK at September 20, 2017 05:16 PM (AVMrq)

262 Posted by: cool breeze at September 20, 2017 05:14 PM (TKf/P)

In my theistic opinion God was gracious because a lot of people were praying.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 20, 2017 05:16 PM (iVOAv)

263 Remember when Peggy Noonan actually had some credibility?

Other than her patriotic, flowery speechwritting, she's nothing more than a country club Republican who likes to be invited to all the Washington insider cocktail parties.

Posted by: Very Undude at September 20, 2017 05:16 PM (2X7pN)

264 I truly do not think Obama and his merry band of deep staters have anything to be concerned about; Sessions has all but completely recused himself from doing anything as Attorney General, and none of the rest of Trump's cabinet seem inclined to do anything about it either. And if you expect Ryan and Co. to do anything, you haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: DaveKinNC at September 20, 2017 05:17 PM (/NgNT)

265 Weasel- I have this happen a lot- If you still have my address please email me.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 20, 2017 05:17 PM (TReXc)

266 247
The people that entertain these thoughts are the same people that do not understand consent of the governed.

We are the government not their pasty asses and we can do quite well without them.
Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 05:13 PM (Sc+fF)


I think they understand it, all right. They just don't believe they need it.

Posted by: rickl at September 20, 2017 05:17 PM (xjiRE)

267 Maybe OT, but hey, it's Trump.

Jonathan Cahn was on CBN. His latest idea is that Trump follows the pattern of Jehu in the Old Testament. That would mean Bill and Hillary were Ahab and Jezebel. When Donald went up against Hillary her career came to a crashing end.
Jehu was appointed by God to be king. He took the commission seriously and zealously wiped out Baal worship. However, he did not go after golden calf worship.
He drained most of the swamp, but not all of it. Failure to complete the job caused problems.
His successor was his son. His son did not complete the job either, and things got worse until the son turned to God for help. It will be interesting if the suggested paradigm holds true.
Hopefully, Trump knows not to ease up and compromise with evil.
Jehu is in 2 Kings 9-10.
His son, Jehoahaz, 2 Kings 13.
CBN interview link http://tinyurl.com/y9es5bjp
There more information in the description below the video.

Posted by: Lurker and CBN Viewer at September 20, 2017 05:17 PM (822cZ)

268
260 fuck that jug-eared fuck in his Reggie-Love-shaped squeakhole

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at September 20, 2017 05:16 PM (27KAF)


I'll take that as a weiner joke. Thank you.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 20, 2017 05:17 PM (dCikz)

269 To the attention of AG Sessions... http://tinyurl.com/ya9a89q7

Posted by: davidt at September 20, 2017 05:17 PM (12AHt)

270 Greg Jarret openly called for Deputy Dawg to resign on his show last night.

Sadly, I concur. Unless, and it's a BIG unless, he is about to hand down mass indictments on Obama, Soros and Clinton and everyone related to them.

And the odds of that are about the same as me going back in time and having a 3-way with Ann Margret and Raquel Welch.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 20, 2017 05:05 PM (mbhDw)


Jarret is also NOT a fan of the FISA courts. Doesn't like how they operate at all.

Posted by: Tami at September 20, 2017 05:18 PM (Enq6K)

271 Congress has a *lot* more power than just conducting hearings and hoping for the best.

They control the $$ - oh, wait, they *used to* control the $$. That's what "omnibus continuing resolutions" are really, really handy for - effectively diluting both congressional dollar power, and (as in the current situation) greatly diluting the power of the presidential veto.

Yeah yeah I'm a boring one-note (or close to it) on this topic, but guess what, I'm right. Trump should have declared, in his first week, that he would never sign a CR of greater than 10 days' duration, and never sign an omnibus CR of any duration.

Politics has essentially been removed from national politics. That's a big reason for the disconnect between public will and Beltway behavior on so many huge issues. Trump might have been hoping for the best, but it's been clear from early on that this WH will have to force the re-introduction of politics to politics, on the national level, if they want to get some of their priority items. This means accountability, this means targeting and sweating senators and congressmen over specific issues, with lots of specific votes. None of this is happening.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 20, 2017 05:18 PM (QDnY+)

272 I'll tolerate no bilstering whatsoever in the comments... And by 'no', I mean "very little"!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (e9G8E)

273 Well, it's been 9 months, to the day, since Hillary has not been President! Yahoo!

Posted by: goon at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (EaQ6/)

274 Great piece but it's a little light on what Obama might be trying to hide. As with others, I'm not sure why Obama would be worried about he or Clinton would be worried about investigations. They had the DC swamp in their pockets.

Posted by: WisRich at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (G0vdT)

275 I realize that Congressional hearings are worthless if corrupt AGs like Stedman and LoLy won't do a fucking thing with a gift wrapped referral, but Gowdy Doody might have more credibility if he didn't act like the most pressing issue was whether or not Elijah CumDumpster's cushions are comfy.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (y7DUB)

276 I think they understand it, all right. They just don't believe they need it.

Posted by: rickl


They thought they could "engineer" it a la Chomsky. They didn't reckon on it taking more and more effort (especially when they forgot to throw sops to all the groups involved). The effort is deep in diminishing returns but they can't stop for fear of what comes next.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (AM1GF)

277 Except that Trump and Sessions aren't going after them, so none of this matters. Clinton will walk. Lerner will walk. Holder will walk. Lynch will walk. Trump isn't the solution to this; he is actively participating in the problem.

Posted by: DTH at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (xwRpW)

278
MeAgain has reached the zenith of her career: she'd inteviewed the KardASShians. It was apparently something of a disaster. One of 'em bailed on the interview, and one of the others got catty with poor MeAgain.

And then she went on Ellen or something, whining about how Trump was mean to her and that was the reason she quit FOX. She said she just doesn't really like politics. And Trump was just so mean.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (8O3HH)

279
Jehu was appointed by God to be king. He took the commission seriously and zealously wiped out Baal worship.

Obama was all about Ball worship.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 20, 2017 05:20 PM (IqV8l)

280 The North lost its temper, and destroyed the South for generations...

Why? They understand where the true threat lies.
Posted by: Don Q. at September 20, 2017 05:11 PM (NgKpN)

Not to start a flame war but... Wonder where States Rights, and the US in general, would be if the outcome had been different?

Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 05:20 PM (48QDY)

281 278
MeAgain has reached the zenith of her career: she'd inteviewed the KardASShians. It was apparently something of a disaster. One of 'em bailed on the interview, and one of the others got catty with poor MeAgain.

And then she went on Ellen or something, whining about how Trump was mean to her and that was the reason she quit FOX. She said she just doesn't really like politics. And Trump was just so mean.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (8O3HH)

I love it. A train wreck. I'm gonna cut diamonds with my schadenboner when shes living in a cardboard box.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 20, 2017 05:22 PM (dCikz)

282 MeAgain has reached the zenith of her career: she'd inteviewed the KardASShians. It was apparently something of a disaster. One of 'em bailed on the interview, and one of the others got catty with poor MeAgain.

And then she went on Ellen or something, whining about how Trump was mean to her and that was the reason she quit FOX. She said she just doesn't really like politics. And Trump was just so mean.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 20, 2017 05:19 PM (8O3HH)


MeAgain....read my lips.


No
One
Cares

Posted by: Tami at September 20, 2017 05:22 PM (Enq6K)

283 Other than her patriotic, flowery speechwritting, she's nothing more than a country club Republican who likes to be invited to all the Washington insider cocktail parties.
Posted by: Very Undude at September 20, 2017 05:16 PM (2X7pN)

Where, unless, I really miss my guess, she has her fair share plus of the high dollar alcohol sloshing about the rooms.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at September 20, 2017 05:22 PM (kXoT0)

284 Huh. I didn't know Obama was doing anything illegal. The media didn't say anything like that, none of them. They always praised him. This has to be false. There is no way this stuff could be kept a secret for that long even IF any of it was true.

/sarc

I keep thinking the façade of the sleazy and evil puppetmasters of the left ought to crack like Humpty Dumpty and it will all fall apart. But they seem impervious. Guess I'm too cynical.

Posted by: RM at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (U3LtS)

285 Does that make me a horrible person?
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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No, just poorly read.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (w1zJX)

286 Not to start a flame war but... Wonder where States Rights, and the US in general, would be if the outcome had been different?
Posted by: golfman at September




Well, what is interesting is why didn't the North simply buy out the slaves? Evil as slavery was, if you have a constitutionally guaranteed deal, why does someone think they can simply come along and confiscate or take your property? We could have saved lot of lives with a little money.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (0wem/)

287 177 What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (6Ll1u)
---------------------------
Jockstraps.
With sequins.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (0jtPF)

288 This won't be popular with the hoard but I would have Trump hold a press conference, issue a blanket pardon to Obama and Hillary and fire Mueller. Have this be a clean break. A grand "deal" at a fresh start. Offer immunity to those who will voluntarily come forward and prosecute the rest.

Posted by: Max Power at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (q177U)

289
Congress has a *lot* more power than just conducting hearings and hoping for the best.
They
control the $$ - oh, wait, they *used to* control the $$. That's what
"omnibus continuing resolutions" are really, really handy for -
effectively diluting both congressional dollar power, and (as in the
current situation) greatly diluting the power of the presidential veto.
Yeah
yeah I'm a boring one-note (or close to it) on this topic, but guess
what, I'm right. Trump should have declared, in his first week, that he
would never sign a CR of greater than 10 days' duration, and never sign
an omnibus CR of any duration.
Politics has essentially been
removed from national politics. That's a big reason for the disconnect
between public will and Beltway behavior on so many huge issues. Trump
might have been hoping for the best, but it's been clear from early on
that this WH will have to force the re-introduction of politics to
politics, on the national level, if they want to get some of their
priority items. This means accountability, this means targeting and
sweating senators and congressmen over specific issues, with lots of
specific votes. None of this is happening. Posted by: rhomboid at September 20, 2017 05:18 PM (QDnY+)
=====
^^^THIS^^^

O, Ryan, Where Art Thou?

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 20, 2017 05:25 PM (MIKMs)

290 Well, what is interesting is why didn't the North simply buy out the slaves? Evil as slavery was, if you have a constitutionally guaranteed deal, why does someone think they can simply come along and confiscate or take your property? We could have saved lot of lives with a little money.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (0wem/)

Not just lives... probably money as well...

The Civil War cost BOTH sides a Metric Fuckton of money....

Posted by: Don Q. at September 20, 2017 05:25 PM (NgKpN)

291 "MeAgain has reached the zenith of her career: she'd inteviewed the KardASShians"
**************************


If they had compared butts there would have been a bigger audience.

Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 05:25 PM (Sc+fF)

292

Here's a scene from Casino you all should watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9II4W_RiN-o


"Take your feet off the table"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 20, 2017 05:25 PM (D7P92)

293 Jonathan Cahn was on CBN. His latest idea is that Trump follows the pattern of Jehu in the Old Testament. That would mean Bill and Hillary were Ahab and Jezebel. When Donald went up against Hillary her career came to a crashing end.
Jehu was appointed by God to be king.


But Hillary and Chelsea are still running around causing mischief. Hillary still has not been punished for her crimes.

IIRC, Jezebel had Naboth murdered so she redistribute his vineyard to herself. But she ended up being thrown from a tower and being devoured by wild dogs, except for her hands.

And as for Ahab's children, Jehu slew them all and made a pile out of their skulls.

So Trump is not quite Jehu.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 20, 2017 05:25 PM (/qEW2)

294 I've read enough about Germany at the end of WW2 to know that propaganda is the key to keeping the people believing. Many even with bombs falling around them at the end, still believed Hitler had that secret weapon. They believe what they were told, and use to believing. So it you got the MFM on you side, your golden. Your teachers in school tell you the same thing, believe the Democrats are right, the Republicans are wrong!

Posted by: Colin at September 20, 2017 05:26 PM (rd8dF)

295 They call this activity "fucking the chicken". Once they start they just don't stop.

Posted by: The Chicken at September 20, 2017 05:26 PM (6dFYM)

296
First, you ask nicely. Once.

Then, you smash heads.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 20, 2017 05:26 PM (D7P92)

297 Yippee! Looks like we're going to re-fight the Civil War/War Between the States/War of Northern aggression again, Can somebody please start a fight between the Catholics and the Protestants to make the day super de duper complete?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 20, 2017 05:27 PM (iVOAv)

298 Well, it's been 9 months, to the day, since Hillary has not been President! Yahoo!

Freedom Children are being born all week.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 20, 2017 05:27 PM (QQ+il)

299 Nood. Same, but more.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 20, 2017 05:27 PM (tbOMB)

300 Well, what is interesting is why didn't the North simply buy out the slaves? Evil as slavery was, if you have a constitutionally guaranteed deal, why does someone think they can simply come along and confiscate or take your property? We could have saved lot of lives with a little money.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (0wem/)

Not where I was going but I've never heard that compromise.

Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 05:28 PM (48QDY)

301 Yippee! Looks like we're going to re-fight the Civil War/War Between the States/War of Northern aggression again, Can somebody please start a fight between the Catholics and the Protestants to make the day super de duper complete?.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September




Pretty sure the Protestants won that one.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 20, 2017 05:28 PM (0wem/)

302 I'll have a little victory parade here when Juan McCain succumbs to brain cancer, I look forward to his incoherent ranting until then. And they tell me that I should have mercy on his soul, kicking and screaming Jesus, kicking and screaming.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 05:28 PM (6Ll1u)

303 And as for Ahab's children, Jehu slew them all and made a pile out of their skulls.

So Trump is not quite Jehu.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 20, 2017 05:25 PM (/qEW2)
*********************************


Be patient, that was in the last half of the story I believe.

Posted by: gNewt at September 20, 2017 05:28 PM (Sc+fF)

304 So is CNN going to backpedal and say since all their news is fake news there wasn't anything to all this? But that would be fake news too?

Posted by: torabora at September 20, 2017 05:29 PM (6dFYM)

305 I would have Trump hold a press conference, issue a blanket pardon to Obama and Hillary and fire Mueller.

+++

Trump as Ford

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at September 20, 2017 05:29 PM (z2W2E)

306 Not where I was going but I've never heard that compromise.
Posted by: golfman at September




Yeah, I know that is not where you were going but it occurred to me some time ago and the longer I have had the thought the more I like the thought.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 20, 2017 05:29 PM (0wem/)

307 177 What costume eerrr uniform would Obama's handmaids wear?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 20, 2017 04:59 PM (6Ll1u)
---------------------------
Jockstraps.
With sequins.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (0jtPF)
..........

and pink cowboy hats Bedazzled.

Posted by: wth at September 20, 2017 05:29 PM (HgMAr)

308 Is Sonobi a Ob+mao spy operation on the HQ?

Posted by: torabora at September 20, 2017 05:29 PM (6dFYM)

309
I don't think MeAgain has much of an ass to compare:

Now, this is just plain mean, and I ought to be ashamed, but he's a little Youtube of some candid shots of MeAgain in Hawaii:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgSx6O1Wts

That's no bird of paradise.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 20, 2017 05:30 PM (8O3HH)

310 Yippee! Looks like we're going to re-fight the Civil War/War Between the States/War of Northern aggression again, Can somebody please start a fight between the Catholics and the Protestants to make the day super de duper complete?.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 20, 2017 05:27 PM (iVOAv)

Geez Fen. My qualifier wasn't enough?

Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 05:30 PM (48QDY)

311 Nood, burn the media to the ground.

But mostly Nood

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 05:31 PM (xJa6I)

312 We're Charleton Heston getting to the end of Soylent Green, where we realize that the bad things are far, far worse than we suspected and we're already past the tipping point.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 20, 2017 05:31 PM (oVJmc)

313
Not where I was going but I've never heard that compromise.
Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 05:28 PM (48QDY)
**************
That is exactly what the Brits did to free their slaves.

Posted by: torabora at September 20, 2017 05:31 PM (6dFYM)

314 "Well, it's been 9 months, to the day, since Hillary has not been President! Yahoo!"

Well technically you are correct. But ist been 8 months since Trump was sworn in.

Posted by: DanMan at September 20, 2017 05:32 PM (XTiHL)

315 Once the media keeps reporting fake news, or bogus leaked information, and the population hears this often and from many Leftist media sources it becomes fact in their eyes.

Posted by: Skip at September 20, 2017 05:32 PM (ghofu)

316 300 Well, what is interesting is why didn't the North simply buy out the slaves? Evil as slavery was, if you have a constitutionally guaranteed deal, why does someone think they can simply come along and confiscate or take your property? We could have saved lot of lives with a little money.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 20, 2017 05:23 PM (0wem/)

Not where I was going but I've never heard that compromise.
Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 05:28 PM (48QDY)

The North offered, Lincoln tried that exact scenario in fact.

South rejected it as interference in their institution.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 20, 2017 05:32 PM (xJa6I)

317 True, but after 30 years of progressive indoctrination in the schools: failing to teach history or the Constitution, and actively promoting the idea that government is something that gives you things and "solves problems" is there enough of the country left to even recognize a coup when it happens?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 20, 2017 05:33 PM (BsGS1)

318 The S in Harry S Truman stood for shithead. His parents knew.

Posted by: torabora at September 20, 2017 05:33 PM (6dFYM)

319 Not where I was going but I've never heard that compromise.
Posted by: golfman at September 20, 2017 05:28 PM (48QDY)
**************
That is exactly what the Brits did to free their slaves.
Posted by: torabora at September



Well as important as slavery was, evil as it was, it is understandable why they did not want to give it up.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 20, 2017 05:33 PM (0wem/)

320 Posted by: rhomboid at September 20, 2017 05:18 PM (QDnY+)

Let's not forget the twisting of the filibuster rule so that legislation is blocked when a Senator declares his/her intent to filibuster. The GOPe has enough votes to easily change the filibuster rule so that the Dems would be forced to hold the floor by debating. Sooner or later every bit of legislation could be brought to a vote, and with the bonus of making ChuckU and company actually work for a change. The musty old bastards in the GOPe are just too corrupt and complacent to give a shit about anything that doesn't benefit them personally.

Posted by: cornbred at September 20, 2017 05:34 PM (HM3AN)

321 Just finished a wonderful passage a third of the way into "A Gentleman in Moscow."

Count Alexander Ilyich Rostov, under a sort of house arrest and living in Moscow's seat of glamour, grace, and style, the Metropol hotel, has just found out, at dinner in its Boyarsky room, its top shelf restaurant, that his only wine choice is red or white.

Someone filed a complaint, it being that labeled wine was a thing associated with privilege and therefore not in accord with the ideals of the revolution.

It took ten men ten days to remove the labels in the Metropol's 10,000 case wine cellars.

How long will it be before the Washington monument is torn down?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 20, 2017 05:35 PM (pL7/7)

322 So Luiz Gutierrez and two other Democrat congressmen were arrested again in front of Trump Tower protesting DACA. Second time in five weeks for Guiterrez. Anyone else with a real job would have been fired by now.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 20, 2017 05:35 PM (/Qs0S)

323 Clear Trump his people were spied upon, but what about Romney his people during 2012?

Posted by: Locke Common at September 20, 2017 05:36 PM (IfokU)

324 all it took for the left to refight the civil war was for the south to stop voting from democratrs.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at September 20, 2017 05:39 PM (XhN8Z)

325 You know who's name is just two letters away from "Jehu"?


This guy!

Posted by: Jeb! at September 20, 2017 05:39 PM (NyJwR)

326 Someone explain to me why a FISA warrant was issued against Manafort when he was 'under suspicion' of the more pedestrian crime of money laundering? FISA is for foreign intelligence work, not white collar crime. Page and Bannon are even more of a problem for Lynch and Comey.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at September 20, 2017 05:41 PM (O9qtX)

327 For the first time in history, C.J. Roberts found that the tax and spend clause allowed taxation of not doing something....because he found the Commerce clause wouldn't cover that with a straight face.

Well neither does the tax and spend power.

So what does Ob+mao got on Roberts? And who else knows?

Posted by: torabora at September 20, 2017 05:42 PM (6dFYM)

328 The piece by Greenfield lays out THE case for prosecuting the greatest political crime in USA history.

Based on the Greenfield piece, Trump has all he needs to have a face to face sit down with Sessions and....

Either Sessions commits to investigating and prosecuting the case, personally --with all the force Sessions can muster within DOJ--or Trump fires Sessions. ON THE SPOT.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at September 20, 2017 05:46 PM (oBuXO)

329 1. But why is Mcmaster protecting Rice and the loyalists?

2. He is confusing "legal" with judicable. What barry did was illegal. requesting fisa warrants on political opponents for a fishing expedition is illegal. Approving those warrants because you are a fisa judge and have that power, even though there is no cause, is illegal. This falls under the "unprovable" and "no controlling legal authority." Political corruption is very hard to prove, and they knew it. That does not make it legal, with or without the pattern.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at September 20, 2017 05:56 PM (LWu6U)

330 The Republican Party will protect Obama and snivel servants that broke the law for one simple reason, they let Obama operate lawlessly right under congress's nose. They are as guilty as Obama, and not one of them will ever face the legal system because Obama and Rinos corrupted that as well. The only justice will come from civil lawsuits and investigative journalism outside of MSM.

Posted by: Rose at September 20, 2017 06:09 PM (3N8PC)

331 All of us in Brattleboro know that Presdent Obama was the best Presdent ever !!! Trump is leing about are Presdent of Coler and should be removed from office because he does not like persons of coler. We call Congress to impeach Trump give us Presdent Obamma again or Hallry Cliton as our Presdent so that we can made America Grape Again !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 20, 2017 06:18 PM (WmgTn)

332 And yet, Trump has continued with much of Obama's policies, or as in the case of DACA, is now seeking to give them the force of legitimate legislation.

So, Obama had nothing to worry about. Welcome to Obama's 3rd term.

Posted by: Andrew Stern at September 21, 2017 04:51 PM (6rm4u)

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