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On the sixteenth anniversary of 9/11, David Harsyani writes that the country is divided and may never feel again the same (largely fictive) unity it did post-9/11.

So here's a depressing thought on the anniversary of 9/11: What if those two or three weeks of harmony 16 years ago will be the last we experience for a very long time? Considering our trajectory, this seems more likely than not. After all, surveying the coverage of the anniversary of 9/11 this morning, it's difficult not to notice that Americans donít really share a coherent, unifying cultural or idealistic value system anymore.

"Never forget" feels like a hollow slogan when much of America began the effort to forget 9/11 weeks after it happened.

And on that, Ed Driscoll has additional thoughts.

A couple of pieces on 9/11: one from Esquire last year on the shocking Falling Man picture (and its eradication from the record), and remembering a fireman killed by one of the 50-200 falling bodies on 9/11.


A reader asks you take a moment to remember FDNY Battalion Commander Brian Hickey, lost on 9/11.

...

Other topics:

Via Mark Hemingway (@heminator on Twitter), this review of a movie about Chappaquiddick (called "Chappaquiddick") seems... a very odd choice for Hollywood.

Forty-eight years later, letís be clear on what the meaning of Chappaquiddick is. Ted Kennedy should, by all rights, have stood trial for involuntary manslaughter, which would likely have ended his political career. The fact that the Kennedy family -- the original postwar dynasty of the one percent -- possessed, and exerted, the influence to squash the case is the essence of what Chappaquiddick means. The Kennedys lived outside the law; the one instance in American history of an illegally stolen presidential election was the election of John F. Kennedy in 1960. He in all likelihood lost the race to Richard Nixon, but his father tried to steal the election for him by manipulating the vote tallies in (among other places) Illinois. Thatís the meaning of Chappaquiddick. too.

I donít say any of this as a right-wing troll. But those are the facts, and they are facts that liberals, too often, have been willing to shove under the carpet. And they have paid the price. Ted Kennedy became known as "the Lion of the Senate," and did a lot of good, but when you try to build a governing philosophy on top of lies, one way or another those lies will come back to haunt you. (Hello, Donald Trump! Heís an incompetent bully, but his middle name might be "Liberal Karma.") As a movie, "Chappaquiddick" doesnít embellish the incidents it shows us, because it doesn't have to. It simply delivers the truth of what happened: the logistical truth of the accident, and also the squirmy truth of what went on in Ted Kennedy's soul. The result may play like avid prose rather than investigative cinema poetry, but it still adds up to a movie that achieves what too few American political dramas do: a reckoning.

Republican Senator Bob Menendez, a man so Republican he once shot a man just for snoring in Spanish, had a bad day in court today, by which I mean, "Evidence was presented."

I think this news might be more important for readers of this site than others: Beware, your sex robot may one day murder you.

Finally, watch the dog in the extreme lower right of this video:



Posted by: Ace at 08:33 PM




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1 Roomy thread!

Posted by: Sidedraft at September 11, 2017 08:34 PM (xiFYn)

2 Hmm. Third?

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:34 PM (s5o+q)

3 Third now?

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:35 PM (s5o+q)

4 On the sixteenth anniversary of 9/11, David Harsyani writes that the country is divided and may never feel again the same (largely fictive) unity it did post-9/11.

Please. We were divided then. It's just that the Reds engaged in some Red taqqiya and pretended otherwise, for about two weeks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:36 PM (SRKgf)

5 *plays catch with Sidedraft until the others arrive*

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:36 PM (s5o+q)

6 *hits DJG in the ear with virtual baseball*

Sorry, dude!

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:37 PM (s5o+q)

7 Never let a dog get between you and food.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 08:37 PM (0hfEM)

8 Top something.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 08:38 PM (gG97F)

9 A couple of pieces on 9/11: one from Esquire last year on the shocking Falling Man picture (and its eradication from the record), and remembering a fireman killed by one of the 50-200 falling bodies on 9/11.


Two shocks: one was the photo itself, and the second was the MSM redaction of the photo. It should have been on the front page of every newspaper and in the opening shot of every broadcast.

That's when we knew - for certain - that the media are the enemy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:38 PM (SRKgf)

10 Republican Senator Bob Menendez, a man so Republican he once shot a man just for snoring in Spanish

I lol'ed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 08:38 PM (LTHVh)

11 Others notified.

Posted by: Sidedraft at September 11, 2017 08:38 PM (xiFYn)

12 AIBGATS.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 08:38 PM (gG97F)

13 The sexbots are everywhere.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 11, 2017 08:38 PM (Tyii7)

14 I always laugh when pets take food they're not supposed to. It's just funny. I don't know why.

Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (8rNrN)

15 top Twenty

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (R5lpX)

16 We will be unified again when:

a) a catastrophe of sufficient size strikes this nation and

b) those who just want to deal with the catastrophe hunt down and silence (by "whatever means necessary") those who want to bitch and moan about "white privilege" and the like.

I don't think a "political solution" is possible any more without the aforementioned catastrophe.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (s5o+q)

17 That's when we knew - for certain - that the media are the enemy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:38 PM (SRKgf)


My goodness, why letting people see graphic evidence like that might promote a backlash against a murderous terrorist cult, and "that's not who we are!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 08:40 PM (gwPgz)

18 Doggies. Making humans laugh since they were first domesticated.

Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2017 08:40 PM (jm1YL)

19 Falling Man ought to be front page every 9/11, and the opening/closing screen of every "news" broadcast that day.

instead he's a non-person, even in death.

F the MFM

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2017 08:40 PM (UVPdS)

20 Ted Kennedy became known as "the Lion of the Senate," and did a lot of good,


Correction: he was the LIAR of the Senate, and if the grass over his green is nice and green, he's doing much more good now than he ever did in office.

The man was a sewer trout, like all the Kennedys. Every. Single. One.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:40 PM (SRKgf)

21 People are taking the sex robot thing way too seriously.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (XFue2)

22 Once again, for 16 years, I have thanked Ace for not forgetting the horror.

Once again, I ask you all to remember my brother, Battalion Chief Brian Christopher Hickey.

He died a hero on 9/11/2001. He is loved and never forgotten.

Nobody seems to want to remember what happened that day. Thank you Ace.

Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (b3dY5)

23 My goodness, why letting people see graphic evidence like that might promote a backlash against a murderous terrorist cult, and "that's not who we are!"
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 08:40 PM (gwPgz)


Yet they show concentration camp footage from time to time.

Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (SRKgf)

24 Doggies. Making humans laugh since they were first domesticated.
Posted by: Tuna at September 11, 2017 08:40 PM (jm1YL)


The utter obliviousness of the humans in the video is a metaphor for the Crazy Years in which we live.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (s5o+q)

25 I don't think a "political solution" is possible any more without the aforementioned catastrophe.
Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (s5o+q)

There will never, EVER be a catastrophe that will unite me with the Prog scum. Ever.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 08:42 PM (gG97F)

26 I always laugh when pets take food they're not supposed to. It's just funny. I don't know why.

Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (8rNrN)


They lack any sense of morals.

They say our Borzoi are a dumb breed. The girls will steal your watch and wallet and empty your bank account before you notice.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 08:42 PM (0hfEM)

27 26 I always laugh when pets take food they're not supposed to. It's just funny. I don't know why.

Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (8rNrN)

They lack any sense of morals.


Dogs are liberals?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (SRKgf)

28 So Antifa is planning home invasions now?

Better keep it in California, you cunts. In Texas, we are prepared and willing to kill your ass.

In all seriousness though, these Antifa motherfuckers better watch their step. I have a beautiful wife, beautiful children, a beautiful house and a nice career that's only on the up. Violence is not in my interest right now. Unlike Antifa, I have everything to lose from it.

But if they want to push, and they want to destroy our peaceful, democratic society as we know it, my capacity for violence is beyond what Antifa could possibly imagine. And I am certain I am not the only conservative or war veteran thinking this way.

They need to be very fucking careful.

Posted by: CPT11A at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (0kYJe)

29 >> I always laugh when pets take food they're not supposed to. It's just funny. I don't know why.


It's even funnier when there's a well behaved dog watching. I always imagine them thinking -

"You can do that?"

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (nM879)

30 I don't think a "political solution" is possible any more without the aforementioned catastrophe.
Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (s5o+q)
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sadly, i don't think it's possible without BOTH parts you mention...

the Left wants a civil war, and, these days, i'm inclined to oblige them.
i just don't think they have the balls to start one.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (UVPdS)

31 when the pension tsunami had passed

we sat silently

stunned at the wreckage

a united people

albeit voiceless

cause of the silence (see line 2)

Posted by: happyfeet at September 11, 2017 08:44 PM (mLfQi)

32 There will never, EVER be a catastrophe that will unite me with the Prog scum. Ever.
Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 08:42 PM (gG97F)


Kinda my point.

I don't think reconciliation is possible. One side or the other will cease to be relevant.

It'll be ugly, whatever happens.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:44 PM (s5o+q)

33 I always laugh when pets take food they're not supposed to. It's just funny. I don't know why.
Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (8rNrN)

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It's up to the owner to properly train them.

Yes, a dog doing what is instinctive to get food has hilarious results when they are not properly trained.

This is a human problem, not a canine problem.

Posted by: Sidedraft at September 11, 2017 08:44 PM (xiFYn)

34 And I always hear -

*Yoink*

in my head, when they do it.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 08:44 PM (nM879)

35 YOINK!!

Posted by: Socratese at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (2GbWn)

36 It's even funnier when there's a well behaved dog watching. I always imagine them thinking -

"You can do that?"

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (nM879)


Hey, *they* were obviously not gonna eat it.

Posted by: the dog in the video at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (s5o+q)

37 Yet they show concentration camp footage from time to time.

Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (SRKgf)


Yes. but those are "safe" defeated enemies that no longer exist!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (gwPgz)

38 the Left wants a civil war, and, these days, i'm inclined to oblige them.
i just don't think they have the balls to start one.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (UVPdS)

They will accidentally start it, and we will intentionally finish it. And them.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (gG97F)

39 So Antifa is planning home invasions now?

Better keep it in California, you cunts.
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that's not going to be healthy for them, even here in #Failifornia... i doubt there will be any survivors to share with Texas.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (UVPdS)

40 Nobody seems to want to remember what happened that day. Thank you Ace.
Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (b3dY5)


I will never forget what happened, or your brother. God bless.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (yE+j4)

41 Via Mark Hemingway ... "Ted Kennedy became known as 'the Lion of the Senate,' and did a lot of good ..."

OBJECTION Your Honor: Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (BiLU+)

42 9/11 is now viewed as an inconvenience by the left and media, too soon to ignore entirely. But they really want for it to be ignored. They are getting close. Sad. Maddening.

Posted by: oddnot is fed up at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (g1MTt)

43 This may have been posted already, but TWiT put together a nice tribute to Jerry Pournelle made from clips of various interviews with him.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8m8kupu

(youtube video)

Posted by: sinalco at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (yODqO)

44 He in all likelihood lost the race to Richard Nixon
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It is unquestionably true that JFK engaged in widespread, organized, voter fraud...but I thought the consensus was that he would have won without it.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (aZq03)

45 Randy Moss is one ugly mother.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (LTHVh)

46 Wait .. did I say that out loud?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (LTHVh)

47 the Left wants a civil war, and, these days, i'm inclined to oblige them.
i just don't think they have the balls to start one.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (UVPdS)


They don't have to have the balls.

They just have to have the stupidity.

I think they have that in spades (to use a 'triggering' but otherwise quite innocuous phrase).

Posted by: the dog in the video at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (s5o+q)

48 >>>They lack any sense of morals.

well, I don't think that's true. besides, they often have a very sly look when taking food that isn't theirs, and if you say their names sharply when they're doing it (or shortly after), they get a very guilty look and slink away.

I think dogs know they're not supposed to do this. but they are dogs, and they can't resist.

Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (8rNrN)

49 Speaking of Bob Menendez, didn't the FBI start investigating him right after he publicly disagreed with Obama on something? I forget the issue...but I remember he got press as a Democrat opposing Obama...and a couple of months later it leaked the FBI was going to indite him.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:47 PM (aZq03)

50 14 I always laugh when pets take food they're not supposed to. It's just funny. I don't know why.
Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (8rNrN)


My silly kitty got into some peanut butter cookies I had baked while I was at work. Cookie bits all over the dining room.

Who'd have thought kitties liked peanut butter? He was very interested in my cookie baking, but I just thought he was hoping I was opening a tuna can.

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2017 08:47 PM (ZapPq)

51 I wonder if I can grab another one before they catch on.

Hold muh water bowl . . .

Posted by: the dog in the video at September 11, 2017 08:47 PM (s5o+q)

52 9/11 is now viewed as an inconvenience by the left and media, too soon to ignore entirely. But they really want for it to be ignored. They are getting close. Sad. Maddening.

The problem for them is that the mass murder is all that keeps Benghazi being the big story on this day.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 08:47 PM (LTHVh)

53 A truck driver was killed last night in a crash with a crane that was going to Lee Park in Dallas to remove an 81 year old statue of Robert E. Lee.

The entire process of the statue's removal was steamrolled through by the city council to shut off debate. According to Mark Davis, the Mayor Pro Tem told him the reason for this was to appease violent hooligans. COWARDICE

https://tinyurl.com/ya58c7ar

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 11, 2017 08:47 PM (AZD0r)

54 the Left wants a civil war, and, these days, i'm inclined to oblige them.
i just don't think they have the balls to start one.
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I imagine we'll see the left deciding on that course of action if they send Ameri-Fa to a red state...where Ameri-Fa will get shot, and then arrested.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:48 PM (aZq03)

55 9/11 is now viewed as an inconvenience by the left and media, too soon to ignore entirely. But they really want for it to be ignored. They are getting close. Sad. Maddening.

Posted by: oddnot is fed up at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (g1MTt)


The National Day of Service was a start!

"...All enemies, Foreign AND Domestic..."

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 08:48 PM (gwPgz)

56 Makes you wonder how crazy things would have gotten had there been no 9/11. The left would have been batshit insane over Bush "stealing the election", and given what a monkey shitweenie commmpaassionate conservative RINO Dubya is, Kerry would have likely won in 2004.

Which would have led to a probably 2008 win by McCain because the market would have still crashed through the floor then, to a 2012 win by Obama or Clinton because McCain is just an utter fuck of a loser, to 8 years of Obama/Clinton because the country is just that fucking stupid.

So technically sans 9/11 we'd still be under an Obama presidency, lolz, and maybe Trump would have run after being disgusted with everything in 2020 instead.

Or maybe not.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at September 11, 2017 08:49 PM (+dsLj)

57 I used to be on the other side.

911 was my 39th birthday. I woke up that morning a Today watching panty waist liberal. By about noon I WOKE UP! I will never FORGET!

This will be a drive by. Gotta go drink some beers, have some cake and watch the Broncos and Rockies win

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 11, 2017 08:49 PM (mMeIQ)

58 I fart in the general direction of your training!

Posted by: Triumph the Amoral Comic Dog at September 11, 2017 08:49 PM (Tyii7)

59 I think dogs know they're not supposed to do this. but they are dogs, and they can't resist.
Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (8rNrN)
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and a man ain't nuthin' but a dog on two legs...

Posted by: Koko Taylolr at September 11, 2017 08:49 PM (UVPdS)

60 When I was in college I had a lab cross that would nab sammiches from people on the quad, pretty regularly.

She'd never try that shit at home...but, she'd wander over to a couple girls chatting over lunch. Get their attention. Then slip around and nab half their sammich.

It was funny as hell to watch and a good ice breaker.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 08:49 PM (nM879)

61 it's difficult not to notice that Americans don't really share a coherent, unifying cultural or idealistic value system anymore.



It's hard to believe it's been 16 years since 9/11/2001. Horrible day. You can blame the left for destroying the American value system. It wasn't long after 9/11 that they started to blame America for what happened. Communist scum from first to last

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 08:49 PM (auHtY)

62 9/11 is now viewed as an inconvenience by the left and media, too soon to ignore entirely
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Hey now, the left is very happy that all their "most terrorism is by conservatives" chart can go back a full 15 years now. They used to hate when we would ask why they'd stop after 10 years...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:50 PM (aZq03)

63 Please. We were divided then. It's just that the Reds engaged in some Red taqqiya and pretended otherwise, for about two weeks.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

This forever.

As soon as the Rats decided the water was safe, they began doing what Rats do. Just like in Viet Nam

Hey! I just realized I've seen the Democrats throw away TWO military victories in my lifetime!

When they sensed they could gain some political traction, they went full throttle Anti American. Bush the W thought their wild accusation were soooo wild that he didn't need to respond.

And that's how we got Obama.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at September 11, 2017 08:50 PM (+Tibp)

64 I don't know that we really had a "Common Experience". Midwesterners had different life experiences than New Yorkers, or Southerners.

Think about how different it is to grow up on a farm from a ghetto.

I grew up in Iowa. I never met a Black person until I went to junior high.

Posted by: ALH at September 11, 2017 08:51 PM (MZwDv)

65 He died a hero on 9/11/2001. He is loved and never forgotten.

Nobody seems to want to remember what happened that day. Thank you Ace.
Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (b3dY5)
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God bless your brother, John. He is a hero.

We too lost someone close to us, a friend. I will never, ever forget that day. Ever. Even my kids, who were very young, still remember it vividly. My 22-year-old son and I were talking about everything that happened earlier today. I was amazed at what he remembered.

I will never forget that horrible day.

Posted by: bluebell at September 11, 2017 08:51 PM (UoSKV)

66 Nobody seems to want to remember what happened that day. Thank you Ace.
Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (b3dY5)

I will never forget what happened, or your brother. God bless.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (yE+j4)


I had a morning conference call scheduled with one of our remote sites which was right across the river from the WTC. We watched the TV coverage and (understandably) the conference call was canceled.

I remember being too angry to concentrate at work, so I went home to a beautiful September afternoon. I went out into the back yard and looked up . . . the jet contrails that *always* were in the sky were absent that day. And it was eerily quiet, like the whole world had stopped for a while.

I will never forget.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:51 PM (s5o+q)

67 Doggie loves calzones. I do too.

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2017 08:51 PM (zIb93)

68 I start getting anxious right around 9/9 every year, cycle through sadness and go to bed on the 10th mad as Hell. I go between crying as I watch the memorials and smoldering rage as I wonder why the middle east wasn't glassed over years ago.

Fuck those Islamic assholes and the cowards who pass as leaders who won't do what it takes to stop this shit cold.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 11, 2017 08:51 PM (yE+j4)

69 Speaking of Bob Menendez, didn't the FBI start investigating him right after he publicly disagreed with Obama on something? I forget the issue...but I remember he got press as a Democrat opposing Obama...and a couple of months later it leaked the FBI was going to indite him.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:47 PM (aZq03)

You're right, though I can't remember what he was opposing. I do remember that it was significant.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at September 11, 2017 08:52 PM (T71PA)

70 Speaking of Bob Menendez, didn't the FBI start investigating him right after he publicly disagreed with Obama on something?
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that's my memory of things... WTF was he thinking?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2017 08:52 PM (UVPdS)

71
Ted Kennedy was born and raised in a poverty-stricken hardscrabble family. While at Harvard he showed an aptitude for strikingly original thinking. His awe-inspiring list of accomplishments before his election to the Senate made the voters impatient about the Constitutional age limit for members of the Upper House.

When faced with a grave personal crisis, he stirringly said, "Let Justice be done though the heavens may fall!" His vision of why he should be President was so incisive it was only through the machinations of his opponent that he was denied the Chief Magistracy.

His green-eyeshade view of government spending and his careful respect for the Constitutional limit of the reach of government earned him the affectionate sobriquet "The Taxpayer's Friend".

A faithful husband and the father of another upstanding legislator, Kennedy was the living embodiment of his Catholic faith. We shall not see his kind again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 08:52 PM (0hfEM)

72 I remember after OKC that the FNM would show the pictures from the explosion for weeks. And they never stopped blaming any and all conservatives.

If Bush 43 had been a competent president he would have not only rolled up the Islamist networks in the US, which he kind of did*, but also the predecessors of Ameri-Fa.

*Remember how the Anthrax mailings stopped shortly after the feds started arresting/deporting people tied to the 9//1 hijackers?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:52 PM (aZq03)

73 Wasn't it the Iran Bribe that set Menendez off?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 08:53 PM (LTHVh)

74 John, thank you for your brother's service. We will not forget him!

Posted by: CPT11A at September 11, 2017 08:53 PM (0kYJe)

75 When they sensed they could gain some political traction, they went full throttle Anti American. Bush the W thought their wild accusation were soooo wild that he didn't need to respond.

And that's how we got Obama.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at September 11, 2017 08:50 PM (+Tibp)



W Bush also played into the religion of peace bullshit. And something I can't personally stand. War on terror. Terror means nothing. War on Muzzie terrorists means going after the bastards who killed Americans and want to kill more of us.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 08:53 PM (auHtY)

76 >> Wasn't it the Iran Bribe that set Menendez off?


I believe you are right.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 08:53 PM (nM879)

77 or as I call it, Bob Corker's Treason.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 08:53 PM (LTHVh)

78
Speaking of Bob Menendez, didn't the FBI start investigating him right after he publicly disagreed with Obama on something? I forget the issue...

Iran

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2017 08:54 PM (IqV8l)

79 War on terror. Terror means nothing.

WWII was the War on Airplanes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 08:54 PM (LTHVh)

80 Antifa is planning home invasions now?
Better keep it in California, you cunts.
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that's not going to be healthy for them, even here in #Failifornia... i doubt there will be any survivors to share with Texas.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (UVPdS)

Where do I sign up to be on the "Please Visit" list?

"Sure, Antifa came to visit me, 'twas in the early hours in da 'hood,
With flags and masks and sticks of wood.
They thought they had me cornered, but I gave them all a fright,
With the armour piercing bullets of my little Armalite."


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2017 08:54 PM (5VlCp)

81 It is unquestionably true that JFK engaged in widespread, organized, voter fraud...but I thought the consensus was that he would have won without it.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (aZq03)



Nope. He "won" by ca. 100,000 votes. Most of which were fraudulent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:55 PM (SRKgf)

82
W Bush also played into the religion of peace bullshit. And something I can't personally stand. War on terror. Terror means nothing. War on Muzzie terrorists
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Hey, in fairness Islam is NOT the most blood thirsty ideology in human history. It *is* second...but pales in comparison to socialism - which killed hundreds of millions last century alone...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:55 PM (aZq03)

83 well, to be honest, the left chose the other side in this war on Islam.

you know, see all those menopausal bishes marching with the Sharia loving Sarasour in January.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 08:55 PM (DQdye)

84 Speaking of movies, I don't think I'll patronize the apparently PC-version of Vince Flynn's "American Assassin."

This is from an interview with Dylan O'Brien (apparently another ignorant Leftist idiot, BIRM twice), the actor playing Mitch Rapp (http://tinyurl.com/yakr2oee) -- Gag Me With A Spoon:

O'Brien connected with the role of Rapp and saw it as an appropriate step for him at this stage of his career. But before production began, he made a point to ensure that the movie handled the delicate subject of terrorism with sensitivity, and didn't hone in on just one group of people.

"I wanted to make sure we were going about it in the right way, and not being black and white about something that is such a gray area," O'Brien said. "Especially now, with terrorism and how it's everywhere, and it is a fear that everyone is currently living with."

To address this concern, O'Brien says the film's creators worked to make the script as up to date as possible. "American Assassin" is based off of a 2010 book by the same name, which was written by author Vince Flynn.

The film pits O'Brien against terrorists from different countries and backgrounds -- and the main villain, Ghost, is an American who schemes to carry out a heinous attack on the United States.

"With Ghost being the primary antagonist, I feel like that sort of displays what's going on now in terms of terrorism being everywhere, and not specifically secluded to one group or place," O'Brien said.

Posted by: ShainS at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (BiLU+)

85 Yet they show concentration camp footage from time to time.

Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (SRKgf)

Yes. but those are "safe" defeated enemies that no longer exist!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 08:45 PM (gwPgz)


Yet now the left and sub-right see Nazis on every street corner.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (Zd2ZF)

86 When my sex robot is turned on, I praise Hillary, despise liberty, wear a Che shirt ... and demand open borders. It is an alt-ego that can be fun, but mostly saves me from death by commie-robot. I just have to remember to power it down and give it no access to the internet where it would find me on the AoS kill list.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (yKAUL)

87 Nope. He "won" by ca. 100,000 votes. Most of which were fraudulent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:55 PM (SRKgf)



Dead People in Illinois: How dare you sir say our votes were fraudulent!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (auHtY)

88 oh right, still can't watch Path to 9-11 because the memories of the feckless Clinton administration are still too painful for them to allow it be broadcast.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (DQdye)

89 I hope teh dog did not burn his tongue and roof of his mouth on the hot cheese in the calzone.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (XFue2)

90 Ted Kennedy was born and raised in a poverty-stricken hardscrabble family. While at Harvard he showed an aptitude for strikingly original thinking.


Yeah, nobody ever thought of having someone else take a test for him. Certainly not for Spanish.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (SRKgf)

91 WWII was the War on Airplanes.
***
Well hey if we can start calling the Revolutionary War the War on Taxes and Bureaucrats I'd be pretty happy.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (aZq03)

92 It is unquestionably true that JFK engaged in widespread, organized, voter fraud...but I thought the consensus was that he would have won without it.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (aZq03)


Nope. He "won" by ca. 100,000 votes. Most of which were fraudulent.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:55 PM (SRKgf)


And the hell of it all is that JFK would be in the far, far right of the REPUBLICAN party of 2017.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (s5o+q)

93 I saw this video linked at American Digest earlier. Not for the faint of heart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9QN3AkydYY


But I'm not interested in weepy reminiscences of 9/11. I watched this Pat Condell video yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPZRoLzu-E


At what point are we going to realize that we are in a war for our survival and act accordingly?

Islam is a cancer on the Earth and needs to be eradicated.

Western political "leaders" who allow Muslim immigration are guilty of the greatest act of treason in human history, and deserve nothing short of the death penalty for their crimes.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (sdi6R)

94 16 years after 911 we elected a muslim/commie President who gave open door privileges at the White House to the muslim brotherhood.

He installed muslim/commies everywhere in the Federal government, which, coincidently focused its energies on oppressing its own citizenry.

We are now bankrupt, completely infiltrated, being attacked from within, invaded, and spied upon by all the big corporate interests, which all appear to be unapologetically Leftist, and being threatened by pissant countries that don't have the GDP of Detroit.

DJT is going to feel like Sisyphus by the time this is over.

Posted by: navybrat at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (w7KSn)

95 Dead People in Illinois: How dare you sir say our votes were fraudulent!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (auHtY)/i]

It wasn't just in Illinois. Texas shares the blame. Thanks, El BJ!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (SRKgf)

96
The film pits O'Brien against terrorists from different countries and backgrounds -- and the main villain, Ghost, is an American who schemes to carry out a heinous attack on the United States.

Glad to see terrorists are embracing vibrant diversity.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2017 08:58 PM (IqV8l)

97 "What if those two or three weeks of harmony 16 years ago will be the last we experience for a very long time?"

I honestly didn't experience the aftermath of 9/11 as harmony.

Nor really as anger. It was just muzzies doing what muzzies do. Merely on a larger scale and in a more spectacular manner. I expect such things of them. The way I figure a mean junkyard dog is gonna bite.

No, my predominant reaction was depression. Thinking to myself, "Well, the incompetent assclowns who run the country, and who are supposed to protect it as part of their job, dropped the damn ball. AGAIN."

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 08:58 PM (ujwCG)

98 @81 Illinois dead voters/papa Daley won it for him I believe

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 08:58 PM (QC/4S)

99 It's up to the owner to properly train them.



Yes, a dog doing what is instinctive to get food has hilarious results when they are not properly trained.



This is a human problem, not a canine problem.

Posted by: Sidedraft at September 11, 2017 08:44 PM (xiFYn)

My Dad had trained our dog to sit still while he set a treat on his nose. He would sit perfectly still until he was told ok boy! You could also sit three treats on the floor and he would only eat the one you pointed to.But then again, Mom set five pounds of Ground Round out to thaw one afternoon and went to take a shower. She came back to the kitchen to see Dog eating the last of the meat off the kitchen floor.So it goes to show, even the best trained dogs will take advantage if you give them a chance.

Posted by: Traveling Man at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (R5lpX)

100 Yeah, nobody ever thought of having someone else take a test for him. Certainly not for Spanish.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM (SRKgf)



There was a Bob Newhart movie way back when, in which he says, "I even flunked Spanish. Even Mexicans can speak Spanish!"

Imagine that line being used now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (SRKgf)

101 Fuck those Islamic assholes and the cowards who pass as leaders who won't do what it takes to stop this shit cold.

Amen, sister.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (CNHr1)

102 9.11 is tbe day we remember some people who did something. Menonites? Methodists? Probably tea party members.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (lht7n)

103 You'll know your sex robot is turning on you when it starts putting mayo on your ham sammiches and mustard on your turkey sammiches.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (nM879)

104 When your Cherry 2000 shorts out after the warranty expires, well good luck.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (zO1cf)

105
I lost a classmate from high school on that day. Please remember Kathleen M. Moran. 1959-9/11/01



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (mbhDw)

106 A bit over 8k votes out of almost 5million cast

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (QC/4S)

107 Angry, bitter feminists are one of the primary interest groups that make up the left. Of course they are going to hate sex robots.

Though the effects on the sexual marketplace if industry can produce something that does actually get significant male interest will likely be astounding, and probably pretty negative overall.

We could easily see the government heavily penalizing people for not having kids in a future where a significant portion of men and women have no use for each other.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 09:00 PM (aZq03)

108 Via Mark Hemingway (@heminator on Twitter), this review of a movie about Chappaquiddick (called "Chappaquiddick") seems...a very odd choice for Hollywood.

I figured they'd do it like a Yankee version of "Smokey and the Bandit" except with Oldsmobiles and dead chicks. And a degenerate drunken Senator.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 09:00 PM (O5Q3r)

109 What happened, in a nutshell:

Someone who would later think that September 11 is all about her ran for President of the United States and, of course, lost.


Posted by: Ivan Chernyakhovsky at September 11, 2017 09:01 PM (zkGZ8)

110 Once again, I ask you all to remember my brother, Battalion Chief Brian Christopher Hickey.



He died a hero on 9/11/2001. He is loved and never forgotten.



Nobody seems to want to remember what happened that day. Thank you Ace.

Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (b3dY5)
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Thank you John for telling us about your brother. May memories of happier times with him be of some comfort to you. God bless you and your family.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:01 PM (lwiT4)

111
I hope teh dog did not burn his tongue and roof of his mouth on the hot cheese in the calzone.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 11, 2017 08:57 PM


Nose burn!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 11, 2017 09:01 PM (IqV8l)

112 (Crap. Left the sock on. By my own rule, I'm stuck with it for the rest of the thread.)

Posted by: Ivan Chernyakhovsky at September 11, 2017 09:01 PM (zkGZ8)

113 I lost a classmate from high school on that day. Please remember Kathleen M. Moran. 1959-9/11/01




Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (mbhDw)
===============================


I will, J.J.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (lwiT4)

114
There was a Bob Newhart movie way back when, in which he says, "I even flunked Spanish. Even Mexicans can speak Spanish!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (SRKgf)


I had a girlfriend who wanted to learn Spanish. "How hard can it be?" she said. "Mexicans speak it." She was a super-liberal, too. Pussy makes you stupid.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (0hfEM)

115 So according to the MSM this is the first hurricane to hit FL. See what happens when yiu vote for Trump?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (lht7n)

116 My Dad had trained our dog to sit still while he set a treat on his nose. He would sit perfectly still until he was told ok boy! You could also sit three treats on the floor and he would only eat the one you pointed to.But then again, Mom set five pounds of Ground Round out to thaw one afternoon and went to take a shower. She came back to the kitchen to see Dog eating the last of the meat off the kitchen floor.So it goes to show, even the best trained dogs will take advantage if you give them a chance.
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 11, 2017 08:59 PM (R5lpX)

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True. Gotta be careful. My point was that you can not train instinct out of dogs. I probably did not express this well.

Posted by: Sidedraft at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (xiFYn)

117 thanksgiving a few years ago, my 10 mth old mastiff grabbed the turkey off the counter , before I had a chance to carry it to the table.

it wasn't one of his better days.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (FKrah)

118 105 I try to remember them all, and your classmate is not forgotten anymore than I can forget my brother.

Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (b3dY5)

119 Just spoke to Mrs. H., who is in Newnan GA. Maybe 40 miles WSW of Atlanta. I asked about the storm. "I slept through it. It's raining and breezy, but that's it."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (nBBdT)

120 Rick Rescorla, hero of 9/11

The Real Heroes Are Dead

https://tinyurl.com/yajf9qam

Worth a read, about a man that saved thousands of lives on his best day, and his last day.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (S6Pax)

121 also ate my family Torah

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (FKrah)

122 thanksgiving a few years ago, my 10 mth old mastiff grabbed the turkey off the counter , before I had a chance to carry it to the table.

==


Awesome!

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (QC/4S)

123 My daughter was a DoD support contractor and in the Pentagon on "that" 9/11 and, as we later found out, had walked the C Ring between Corridors 4 and 5 ten minutes before the plane hit. I was on the road but went home to be with Mrs H and we could not raise daughter on the cell phone until early afternoon. We started breathing again when son H in Florida called to say he had been in touch her and she was safe (DC area cell service was completely hosed for quite some time).

I'll hate the muz bastards until the day I die plus a thousand years or so!!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (gwPgz)

124 Who's a good Boy!

Damn, it is sad how much more I love dogs than people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (rb1zT)

125 also ate my family Torah

==

Bad dog!!

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (QC/4S)

126
When your Cherry 2000 shorts out after the warranty expires, well good luck.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Bring her in and we'll check her out.

Posted by: The Geek Squad at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (IqV8l)

127 25 I don't think a "political solution" is possible any more without the aforementioned catastrophe.
Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (s5o+q)


I don't think there is such a thing as a "political solution", in the abstract.

What we need is a "cultural" solution.

Not all, but most, people must get back to grips with reality.

Shut up. Go to work. Leave your neighbors alone. Stop blaming others for your misfortunes.

We'll no longer be "divided" then, just a bunch of people who disagree about a few things here and there, with a small handful of loud-mouthed nutters who can be safely ignored.

Our "divisions" are not political, really. They are existential. The leftists/barbarians actually want to live in a different existence that is incompatible with normal human reality. There is no negotiation or middle-ground or compromise with Marxist-Leninism. They've done some serious damage to anglo-american culture over time, but I don't think it's game over just yet.

(But to your point a catastrophe would indeed be one way of short-circuiting the process of cultural restoration)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (hcyUh)

128 also several pair of my boots, (wouldn't touch spouses) and ate my down couch.

so.. pets.
love em hate em but hate to live without them.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (FKrah)

129 Damn, it is sad how much more I love dogs than people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (rb1zT)


There are bad dogs, and there are bad people.

Unfortunately, the bad people vote. Sometimes multiple times.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (s5o+q)

130 Damn, it is sad how much more I love dogs than people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (rb1zT)

you and me both

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (SjImc)

131 And the hell of it all is that JFK would be in the far, far right of the REPUBLICAN party of 2017.
***
You know what would make for an interesting movie? Some liberal do-gooder builds a time machine to save JFK...takes him into the modern world of say 2050 right before he gets shot.

JFK observes all of the modern world, steals the time machine to go back, nukes Hanoi after sending LBJ there for peace negotiations and sponsors a series of constitutional amendments banning gay marriage, abortion, and pink shorts for men.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (aZq03)

132 thanksgiving a few years ago, my 10 mth old mastiff grabbed the turkey off the counter , before I had a chance to carry it to the table.

it wasn't one of his better days.
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (FKrah)
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I think he might beg to differ.

Posted by: bluebell at September 11, 2017 09:05 PM (UoSKV)

133
119 Just spoke to Mrs. H., who is in Newnan GA. Maybe 40 miles WSW of Atlanta. I asked about the storm. "I slept through it. It's raining and breezy, but that's it."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:03 PM (nBBdT)

But CNN said it was the worst weather ever.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 11, 2017 09:05 PM (lht7n)

134 runner, amazingly became the best dog I ever had live with me.

miss em.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:05 PM (FKrah)

135 I don't think a "political solution" is possible any more without the aforementioned catastrophe.
Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (s5o+q)


I am not even sure that would do it anymore.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:05 PM (SjImc)

136 I will, J.J.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:02 PM (lwiT4)
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As will I, JJ.

Posted by: bluebell at September 11, 2017 09:06 PM (UoSKV)

137 I came home one day to two of my 3 dogs literally leaning against the front door.
I couldn't even open it without pushing them out of the way with the door...and when I finally got it opened, they weasled out like greased lighting.

The 3rd dog was semi-coscious on the kitchen floor in what can only be described as an Euphoric Beef High.

...also, the 5 lb roast was missing from the counter.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 09:06 PM (nM879)

138
Our great Lacey (MBIS MBISS Ch. Soyara's Chantilly Lace JC ROM-C) was trained do anything Her Majesty wanted her to do in the show ring. But turn your back on her for one second...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:06 PM (0hfEM)

139 Ronnie Bucca, Fireman in FDNY. Former Green Beret, beloved Father and Husband. A guy that they once gave up on as crippled.

He died with his boots on. He made it to the 78th floor that day, fighting the fire and trying to rescue injured people.

http://peterlance.com/wordpress/?p=112

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 09:06 PM (S6Pax)

140 bluebell, lol right. but I didn't allow him to linger over it, after I cried, I grabbed it and wrapped it in a bag threw it away.

If my kids don't get any you don't either!

(what I said)
he slinked away disappointed

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:07 PM (FKrah)

141 "If Bush 43 had been a competent president he would have not only rolled up the Islamist networks in the US, which he kind of did"

The most dangerous single Islamist network in the US is the formal diplomatic arm of the KSA, through which terror funding has flowed like a wellspring, and which is now reported to have coordinated "dry runs" for 9/11 using its own official consular personnel.

Plus the Kingdom's various registered and unregistered lobbyists, flunkies, stooges, co-investors, business partners, and ideological allies within Fedzilla.

None of that's been touched.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 09:07 PM (ujwCG)

142 I will not forget John's brother or J. Sefton's classmate or anybody else who was murdered by scum on that day.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 11, 2017 09:07 PM (P8951)

143 I was in Saudi Arabia at 9/11.

Things were ........... interesting.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2017 09:08 PM (89T5c)

144 Yet now the left and sub-right see Nazis on every street corner.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (Zd2ZF)


Ah yes, BUT, those are white American Nazis, so...

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:08 PM (gwPgz)

145
Plus the Kingdom's various registered and unregistered lobbyists, flunkies, stooges, co-investors, business partners, and ideological allies within Fedzilla.
___
Don't forget we paid for 20% of Hillary's campaign!

Posted by: Saudi Arabia at September 11, 2017 09:08 PM (aZq03)

146 I keep telling people. Sexbots are one those ideas that seems really good in theory but in real life would be horrible

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 09:09 PM (39g3+)

147 I was in Saudi Arabia at 9/11.

Things were ........... interesting.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2017 09:08 PM (89T5c)

I was in my Office a block from the Hudson River. Walked down and watched the smoke coming out of both towers from the Jersey side

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:09 PM (SjImc)

148 Kennedy won the electoral college 303 to 219. That's 84 electoral votes, Nixon would have to flip 42. Illinois was 27 votes. Where else did old Joe steal a state?

I think the "Nixon really won 1960" thing needs to be put to rest. Besides, it's not as if we were deprived of a Nixon presidency and never got to find out what he'd do.

On the Teddy front, though, good god. He didn't even have a valid driver's license at the time. The book Senatorial Privilege is a very comprehensive minute by minute account of how cravenly he acted and how thoroughly he was enabled.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 11, 2017 09:10 PM (gIRsn)

149 KG just gives her open mouth blow job face on The Five

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 11, 2017 09:10 PM (K2T58)

150 True. Gotta be careful. My point was that you can not train instinct out of dogs. I probably did not express this well.
Posted by: Sidedraft
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True.

As an aside, two nights ago, I was getting dinner on the kitchen table. I turned away for a few minutes to do something else, and when I glanced at the table, Mike Hammer's Cat was drinking out of my water glass.

While I was standing there pondering this, he dipped his front paw in the water and licked it. You know...the paw he uses to scrape his litter.

I scooted him off the table, got a fresh glass, and thought, "That's odd, he's never done that before". Then I began to think back about times that the water may have tasted funny...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:10 PM (nBBdT)

151 Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 09:06 PM (S6Pax)

I feel like, if I start crying, I may never stop. I'm appalled that so few people I encountered today gave a moment's thought to this. If I ran the world, every 9/11 for the rest of all time, every media outlet would simply run tape, all day. God bless those taken and those they left behind. God bless America. I hope we can win this thing, because it's far from over.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:10 PM (EgOr3)

152 88 oh right, still can't watch Path to 9-11 because the memories of the feckless Clinton administration are still too painful for them to allow it be broadcast.
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 08:56 PM (DQdye)

not sayin'... just sayin'...

Posted by: the pirate bay at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (yODqO)

153 Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:04 PM (SjImc)

The more I deal with people, the more I appreciate my dog!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (gwPgz)

154 If on September 12, 2001 Bush 43 had said that we were withdrawing our ambassadors from every Islamic country and instituting a total embargo on immigration from same, few would have objected. But no...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (0hfEM)

155 The sentence is... death by snu-snu.

Posted by: sexbot kara 1524842 at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (mJ8mX)

156 Too many things to mention for remembrance today;
but I'll share one of my big take-away points fron 9/11:
if something is going down and I find some "security" joker standing in the door saying "it's all under control, return to your offices" that sonofab**** is gonna be lucky if all he gets are my footprints on his chest ...

g'night, Horde.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (Umfx1)

157 He should see what I do with his toothbrush.


Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (nM879)

158 I was in Saudi Arabia at 9/11.

Things were ........... interesting.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Go on.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (+Tibp)

159 Yet now the left and sub-right see Nazis on every street corner.
***
I accidentally publicly laughed in the face of a coworker yesterday when he complained about the danger of NAZIs in America.

I pointed out there were only a few thousand registered members, in a country of 320M, of which probably 50-90% are actually FBI agents undercover.

America has what...10X times as many albinos as NAZIs?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (aZq03)

160 File this under: What's the annoying itch in my ass

A political blogger says the election of President Trump will go down in American history as an event at least as disastrous as the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The 9/11 attacks were a horrific event in US history, but the election of Donald Trump will be seen as equally disastrous, if not more so, Charles Johnson, founder of Little Green Footballs, said on Twitter Monday.

In subsequent tweets, Mr. Johnson stood by his claim, arguing Mr. Trump has already destroyed much of whats good about America, and its getting worse every day.

Weasel Zippers

I want just 5 minutes behind the gym with that putz

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (SjImc)

161 it might have been an illusion but I really had No idea of the nature of our fellow citizens until a few mths after 9-11. I can remember watching msdnc (yeah I know) and they were already telling us to let it go. and Why they hate us. etc..
The dems started the shrill 'when did he know" re Bush..

then screaming/demonstrations started started , there were those that said (we had it coming to us )

obama like.

before that I paid absolutely no attention to politics.

yes hippy.
that turned me around, the whole stunning ordeal of witnessing mass murder to unsuspecting people just going to work!

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (FKrah)

162 If on September 12, 2001 Bush 43 had said that we were withdrawing our ambassadors from every Islamic country and instituting a total embargo on immigration from same, few would have objected. But no...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (0hfEM)


Mustn't offend the "Religion Of Submission" after all.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (s5o+q)

163 I was in Saudi Arabia at 9/11.



Things were ........... interesting.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory



Go on.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (+Tibp)
Yes, please, do.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (EgOr3)

164 The more I deal with people, the more I appreciate my dog!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (gwPgz)

And my 4 cats

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:13 PM (SjImc)

165 I think dogs know they're not supposed to do this. but they are dogs, and they can't resist.
Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:46 PM (8rNrN)
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and a man ain't nuthin' but a dog on two legs...

That's what our trainer used to tell us. "To them, you're a big, funny looking dog."
One time my wife put some short ribs on the counter to defrost for dinner and when she got home from work, the packaging's on the kitchen floor and the ribs are gone. And there's my two guys looking all guilty. So she unloads on them and we order out. Couple of hours later, one of them starts digging at the couch cushions. They never ate them. They had stashed them in the couch for later.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 09:13 PM (O5Q3r)

166 27 26 I always laugh when pets take food they're not supposed to. It's just funny. I don't know why.

Posted by: ace at September 11, 2017 08:39 PM (8rNrN)

They lack any sense of morals.

Dogs are liberals?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 11, 2017 08:43 PM (SRKgf)



Nah. They show shame when you yell at them for doing something bad.


They're Catholics.

Posted by: buzzion at September 11, 2017 09:14 PM (z/Ubi)

167
I was living in LA when 9/11 happened. Strangely, I was in NYC exactly a week before. Whenever I came to town, I stayed at my brother's place in Qeens, and then went over to my folks who lived a few blocks away to have an early breakfast, and then take the E train down to the WTC. From there, I'd go to J&R Music, a cigar store, Century 21 (clothing) and then walk back up through Tribeca to the Village. In fact, I used to refer to the WTC as my "ground zero" as that's where I usually began my walks uptown.

So, on Tuesday, September 4th, I got out of the train at the WTC, exited and for some unknown reason, I turned around and looked up at the top of the buildings. I stared at them for about a minute or so before turning and walking away. To this day, I cannot for the life of me explain why I did that; I never did that. Precognition? Who knows.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2017 09:14 PM (mbhDw)

168 "I think dogs know they're not supposed to do this. but they are dogs, and they can't resist."

The latest read from the animal behaviorists is that cats know there are certain things humans don't want them to do, but cats do them anyway, because they're cats, and they don't care.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 09:14 PM (ujwCG)

169
Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 09:13 PM (O5Q3r)

Gawd love ya, tu, you made me laugh! Great story.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:14 PM (EgOr3)

170 prayers to all the families of their beloved ones that died that day and after inall the wars trying to tame that beast.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:14 PM (FKrah)

171 I keep telling people. Sexbots are one those ideas that seems really good in theory but in real life would be horrible
***
We apparently stopped caring about the effects of various feel good things on society as a whole a while back (hello abortion and gay marriage) so I really don't care anymore.

If Beta Bill wants a Cherry 2000 because he is tired of Feminist Felicia well...go right ahead Bill...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 11, 2017 09:14 PM (aZq03)

172 It makes me physically ill looking back on that and seeing first hand what a sick, depraved, fucked up religion and society it was. And there are countries far worse than them.

Whatever the news media tells you about the goat rapers in the ME, it's worse than that.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2017 09:15 PM (89T5c)

173 Mustn't offend the "Religion Of Submission" after all.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (s5o+q)


That's when I became convinced the fix was in! KSA petrodollars drew politicians like flowers draw bees!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:15 PM (gwPgz)

174 Kennedy won the electoral college 303 to 219. That's 84 electoral votes, Nixon would have to flip 42. Illinois was 27 votes. Where else did old Joe steal a state?




Word is LBJ stuffed the ballots for Texas which was 24 EV.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 09:15 PM (auHtY)

175 I want just 5 minutes behind the gym with that putz





Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:12 PM (SjImc)
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He said that? Pathetic. Below pathetic.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:15 PM (lwiT4)

176 the one instance in American history of an illegally stolen presidential election was the election of John F. Kennedy in 1960

Yo.

Posted by: Rutherford Hayes (party of Lincoln!!) at September 11, 2017 09:15 PM (6FqZa)

177 He said that? Pathetic. Below pathetic.
Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:15 PM (lwiT4)

Top story on Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:16 PM (SjImc)

178 Kennedy won the electoral college 303 to 219. That's 84 electoral votes, Nixon would have to flip 42. Illinois was 27 votes. Where else did old Joe steal a state?




Word is LBJ stuffed the ballots for Texas which was 24 EV.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 09:15 PM (auHtY)


I was told there would be no math . . . let alone story problems!

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:16 PM (s5o+q)

179 As an American who watched the horror of 9/11 from the safety of Arizona, I feel as if I should apologize to all the 9/11 victims. We failed you, in every possible way. Instead of standing up against the insidious ideology whose demented adherents viciously murdered you in its name, we completely surrendered to it.

We responded to your horrific murders by inviting millions more Muslims to come here, some of whom have already committed more terrorist attacks here, and others of whom undoubtedly will commit even more terrorist attacks here in the future. We even allowed them to plan the erection of a victory mosque at Ground Zero. We now condemn as "racists" or "Islamophobes" anyone who dares to criticize Islam or the violence and hatred for non-Muslims that it instructs its believers is their duty.

We treat Muslims as the victims of 9/11, instead of the actual victims. Worst of all, a mere 7 years after we watched you all die horrible, horrible deaths, we elected as our president a Muslim appeaser and apologist who still insists to this day that Islamic terrorism is caused by a lack of jobs and education. He emboldened Muslim terrorists across the globe, and even flew planeloads of our cash and gold to the mullahs in Iran, so that they could develop nuclear weapons quicker.

So to all the victims of 9/11 -- and Boston and Ft. Hood and Chattanooga and San Bernardino and Orlando and all the other cities that will one day be on this list -- I apologize.

We failed you.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 09:17 PM (BXf9o)

180 Top story on Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:16 PM (SjImc)
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How disgusting.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:17 PM (lwiT4)

181 I'll never forget what this day is or all we lost.

Now my dog story, we had a bassett hound named Droopy that was the laziest thing you could ever imagine. Us kids finally talked mom into letting him in the house one night when it was cold. Mom had made cinnamon rolls that night and had put them up on the table overnight. Somehow mr. littlelegs managed to get up on a chair and then onto the table and ate most of them. Mom still talks how she went to let him out the next morning before noticing and wondering why his ears were so sticky....

Posted by: Molly k. at September 11, 2017 09:17 PM (u+fwn)

182 Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 09:13 PM (O5Q3r)

Thanks for that tale, first time I've laughed today!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:18 PM (gwPgz)

183 when I moved back here I lived with my brother and his gf (now wife) for a while and became great friends with his teddy bear of a Golden Retriever. I asked my brother if it was wise to leave a bowl of Hershey's kisses on the coffee table where the dog could reach them. "Oh, he's really well trained, he doesn't touch them"

One evening we were watching TV and out of the corner of my eye, I saw the dog sneak up to the table, look at us, and then take a kiss from the bowl and run into the kitchen, where his bed was. I went back there and found little pieces of tin foil all over his bed.

Now that was a smart dog. he was sneaky because he knew he shouldn't be doing it and he was smart enough to only take one at a time, not shove his face in the bowl and gobble.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 11, 2017 09:18 PM (P8951)

184 The end all- Everything I needed to learn about islam I learned on 9/11.
No peace until it is in pieces.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 11, 2017 09:19 PM (RnKax)

185 We failed you.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 09:17 PM (BXf9o)
No truer words . . . it's gutwrenching.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:19 PM (EgOr3)

186 So to all the victims of 9/11 -- and Boston and Ft.
Hood and Chattanooga and San Bernardino and Orlando and all the other
cities that will one day be on this list -- I apologize.



We failed you.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 09:17 PM (BXf9o)
==================================

Some. Not all. Little raised his hand and said, "Send me". He was 17 and I had to sign the papers for him because he was under age.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:19 PM (lwiT4)

187 TrivialPursuer .

true.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:19 PM (FKrah)

188 My whippet absolutely loved cauliflower.

I never caught her counter-surfing for it, though (although she had the whippetish tendency . . . I would often catch her looking up at the kitchen counters, obviously thinking the doggy thought "I wonder if there's food up there.")

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:20 PM (s5o+q)

189 So to all the victims of 9/11 -- and Boston and Ft. Hood and Chattanooga and San Bernardino and Orlando and all the other cities that will one day be on this list -- I apologize.

We failed you.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 09:17 PM (BXf9o)

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Incredibly well said. Thank you.

Posted by: Sidedraft at September 11, 2017 09:20 PM (xiFYn)

190 162 If on September 12, 2001 Bush 43 had said that we were withdrawing our ambassadors from every Islamic country and instituting a total embargo on immigration from same, few would have objected. But no...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (0hfEM)

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Holy Shit!

1. the left and their muz puppets/puppeteers act like that's what we did.

2. What the fuck? youknow, that's what you do when you're at war. Who advised W? A historical illiterate? The muzz has always been trying to invade. There was just a 300 year pause while they perfected their guilt rays.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 09:20 PM (DQdye)

191 Word is LBJ stuffed the ballots for Texas which was 24 EV.
Posted by: TheQuietMan

In those days, Texas was reliably Democrat, and California was reliably Republican.

Even New York would flip flop from Republican to Democrat. It was that even in those days.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 09:20 PM (S6Pax)

192 as for JFK v Nixon. The WSJ had an article about how some southern states transferred non-JFK votes to him. The details are fuzzy but a lot of southerners were hardcore donks but wouldn't vote for that catholic yankee skirt chaser so those votes were all lost. But votes for democrat other than Kennedy eventually got assigned to him to at least give him an electoral or vote count majority.

blah blah

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 09:21 PM (DQdye)

193 yeah, Osama bin Laden and his crew of Islamist fanatics mighta killed three thousand Americans. But Donald Trump hurt millions of Americans' feelings.

What's a few thousand lives to that, Mr Johnson?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2017 09:22 PM (6FqZa)

194 Wait, has anybody defined the difference between a sex robot and a cum dumpster?

I'm considering marketing a pocket pussy armed with a IED. Who's with me?

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2017 09:22 PM (D0riW)

195
My friend had this dopey shepherd mix, Fang. One day, I put a coffee and a bran muffin down on the coffee table, turned for two seconds and when I looked back, the muffin was gone and Fang was in the corner, crumbs dropping from his mouth with that don't-look-at-me guilt face. I died laughing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2017 09:23 PM (mbhDw)

196 154 If on September 12, 2001 Bush 43 had said that we were withdrawing our ambassadors from every Islamic country and instituting a total embargo on immigration from same, few would have objected. But no...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (0hfEM)


He also could have slammed shut the Mexican border and 90% of the American people would have supported him.

He didn't do any of those things, because he was a globalist who believed in One World Government.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2017 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

197
It would be tragic if suddenly Jarles Chonson stepped off a curb and got hit by a bus.

Yup. Tragic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2017 09:24 PM (mbhDw)

198 He died a hero on 9/11/2001. He is loved and never forgotten.

Nobody seems to want to remember what happened that day. Thank you Ace.
Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (b3dY5)

John, your brother was a hero, God bless you and your family.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 11, 2017 09:25 PM (Ri/rl)

199 Nothing better than asking a guilty dog :

What. Did. You. DO-?


They turn inside out with the guilt. It's adorable.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 09:25 PM (nM879)

200 In those days, Texas was reliably Democrat, and California was reliably Republican.

Texas went Republican in 1952 and 1956. If Kennedy had anyone but LBJ for VP it would have gone for Nixon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:25 PM (0hfEM)

201 It would be tragic if suddenly Jarles Chonson stepped off a curb and got hit by a bus.

Yup. Tragic.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 11, 2017 09:24 PM (mbhDw)


I've been waiting for the aliens to come and take him home for some time now.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:25 PM (s5o+q)

202 He didn't do any of those things, because he was a globalist who believed in One World Government.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2017 09:24 PM (sdi6R)


The KSA and the New World Order were made for each other!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:25 PM (gwPgz)

203 Dog: Trump.

Food on Grill: Hillary's turn.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 11, 2017 09:26 PM (tbOMB)

204
Fang was the secret agent CONTROL dog on Get Smart. He was a feline version of Max.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 09:26 PM (8O3HH)

205 Canine, you idiot.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 09:26 PM (8O3HH)

206 And 9/11?

It's still too early for me to dig stuff. I just cant.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 11, 2017 09:26 PM (tbOMB)

207 In those days, Texas was reliably Democrat, and California was reliably Republican.

Even New York would flip flop from Republican to Democrat. It was that even in those days.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 09:20 PM (S6Pax)



But Texas wouldn't have been so reliably Democrat for a Catholic from the north. Which is why Johnson was added to the ticket

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 09:26 PM (auHtY)

208 I used to amuse myself with the thought that leftists, especially the JEF, were doing the whole "Don't blame the Religion of Peace (tm)" schtick as a sort of reverse psychology thing.

Mohammad the Goatfucker is doing his level headed damnedest to make us hate him and go to war with him, and here's the Mom Jeans Marxist saying "No, no, he's not the problem, we have to love and understand him, it's just cause he's poor and underprivileged..."

Now, of course my fantastical theory is total bunk, but still, can you imagine just how much this pisses the goatfuckers off?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 09:26 PM (hcyUh)

209 and wondering why his ears were so sticky....
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Posted by: toby the beagle at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (mJ8mX)

210 He also could have slammed shut the Mexican border and 90% of the American people would have supported him.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2017 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

I know what you mean and agree, but, didn't the border get closed for a couple days/weeks ?

Posted by: dDan at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (hwYmz)

211 196 154 If on September 12, 2001 Bush 43 had said that we were withdrawing our ambassadors from every Islamic country and instituting a total embargo on immigration from same, few would have objected. But no...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (0hfEM)

He also could have slammed shut the Mexican border and 90% of the American people would have supported him.

He didn't do any of those things, because he was a globalist who believed in One World Government.
Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2017 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

Sometimes you guys are as ridiculous as the Left.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (LuKE7)

212 Vikings killing Saints who refuse to use Adrian Peterson.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (+Tibp)

213 Here are my thoughts on 9/11 from this morning:


Instapundit had an observation about 9/11 that I totally agree with, which is-

immediately after 9/11 the one thing I never thought would happen is that America would elect a feckless leftist as president, who would proceed to flush away America's position in the world and security over eight years,

as America stood around and let him.


I've often thought the same or similar things.

Why was America in such a hurry to elect a guy with the name, Barack Hussein Obama, cuz that's really all they knew about him.

We, as a nation, literally elected a guy with no accomplishments in gov't, business, the military, anywhere at anything.

The Left had suffered lots of setback in the proceeding years.

The collapse of the Soviet Union proved that socialism/communism was a failed system.

The Clinton sex scandals proved that feminism was a cynical scam to gull the weak-minded.

Then, 9/11 happened.

I think at that point the Left broke. Pretty much every single thing they believed was proven with blood and fire to be completely false,

and they couldn't take it.

They could no longer handle reality. Everything they had been told made them "good people" becuz they believed it, was a lie.

At that point, you can do one of two things:

1) Reassess your beliefs and change them

or

2) Double down on the fantasy

Obviously, as a group, they chose #2.

Or rather, I think, the smart people who finance and reap money from the left, realized that this was a good way to maintain control and money flow.

America was the problem. Not islam. And look! See we elected a guy with a muslim name to "fundamentally change America".

And with each step, they took America farther into fantasyland, where anything was true but reality.

Hey that socialism stuff works!!! And if you don't agree, we'll beat you up.

Men can become women and women can become men and both can become pretty pretty ponies!!!

The solar cycles have nothing to do with weather on Earth. It's all stuff man does like barbecuing steaks! Yeah, mostly bbq and driving cars. Oh, and air conditioning. And industry. But, not the sun.

And even after 8 years of "there there here's you binky" politics for the left, they as people are still broken.

And that's why we have the NeverTrump insanity -

they were all set to make Their Fantasy the law of the land with the full majesty of the US law-enforcement behind it.

But then.....Trump.


But everything- Antifa, everything I now believe flows from 9/11-

the day reality broke the Leftists' minds.



I know TL?DR, but I've been thinking a lot about this lately cuz-

I don't know how we find our way back cuz it seems we are dealing with a mass hysteria and functional insanity in large groups of people.

And we absolutely cannot give the Left the Power Binky, which they so crave. To do so would destroy our future and the future of our children and grandchildren.

It is a quandary.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (9q7Dl)

214 is the doc that gave us Bin Laden still in a Paki prison?

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (FKrah)

215 Some. Not all. Little raised his hand and said, "Send me". He was 17 and I had to sign the papers for him because he was under age.
Posted by: grammie winger

Isaiah Chapter 6, 8th verse

Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"

God bless your Grandson, lady.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 09:28 PM (S6Pax)

216 It would be tragic if suddenly Jarles Chonson stepped off a curb and got hit by a bus.


well at least that might knock the bicycle seat he has up his ass loose?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:28 PM (SjImc)

217 Vikings killing Saints who refuse to use Adrian Peterson.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (+Tibp)
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I can't picture Adrian Peterson in another team's uniform. Sad.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:29 PM (lwiT4)

218 Nobody seems to want to remember what happened that day. Thank you Ace.

Posted by: John at September 11, 2017 08:41 PM (b3dY5)



John, your brother was a hero, God bless you and your family.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 11, 2017 09:25 PM (Ri/rl)
Big, big thanks to Ace for this post. And adding a God bless to John and his family. Some of us will NEVER forget.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:29 PM (EgOr3)

219 190 162 If on September 12, 2001 Bush 43 had said that we were withdrawing our ambassadors from every Islamic country and instituting a total embargo on immigration from same, few would have objected. But no...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:11 PM (0hfEM)

**************

I remember just a few days later The Left and the media were asking what we did to provoke 9/11 and talking about the Pentagon as a "legitimate" target.

John Edwards --"Two Americas" existed before 9/11.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at September 11, 2017 09:29 PM (cHrxO)

220 Should have nuked Mecca, but the Saudis are our besties.

*spit*

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 11, 2017 09:29 PM (XFue2)

221 It would be tragic if suddenly Jarles Chonson stepped off a curb and got hit by a bus.


well at least that might knock the bicycle seat he has up his ass loose?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:28 PM (SjImc)


Do you suppose we'd get nice, artsy photographs out of the deal?

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:29 PM (s5o+q)

222 National Lampoon's take on Chappaquiddick:

http://www.printmag.com/imprint/on-hoaxes-spoofs-and-parodies/

As for the "9-11" issue":

NEVER forget, NEVER forgive".

Posted by: Bruce at September 11, 2017 09:30 PM (7rlrd)

223 211
Sometimes you guys are as ridiculous as the Left.
Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (LuKE7)


Not sure what you mean by that. Bush increased Muslim immigration after 9/11, including student visas. And the GOPe is firmly in favor of open borders.

This was the case long before Obama came along.

Posted by: rickl at September 11, 2017 09:30 PM (sdi6R)

224 well at least that might knock the bicycle seat he has up his ass loose?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:28 PM (SjImc)
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Somebody would have to catch his camera. Wouldn't want to lose all those precious shots of fence posts and gate locks.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:30 PM (lwiT4)

225 Thank you Ace for the remembrances and the sanity here (I mostly lurk). We will never forget that day 16 years ago. This former liberal was already starting to question things when I learned so much about Islam and the one-sides war that had been declared on us. Thank you too for the heads up about American Assassin's new sensitivity - the trailer inspired me to get and read the books, and I hope others will go to the source and become similarly woke.

If you live in the San Fernando Valley of Failifornia (love that) let me know. We need a meetup!

Posted by: Roxanne in CA at September 11, 2017 09:30 PM (lbumz)

226 That's dig stuff up.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 11, 2017 09:31 PM (tbOMB)

227 Argh! One-sideD war

Posted by: Roxanne in CA at September 11, 2017 09:31 PM (lbumz)

228 >>Wouldn't want to lose all those precious shots of fence posts and gate locks.


Paging Dr. Freud

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 09:31 PM (nM879)

229 Question for Navy folks - I've been watching "The Last Ship": why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations? I've noticed that in other movies, too.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 09:31 PM (ANIFC)

230 Title for Hillary's book could have been, 'Here, hold my beer'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:32 PM (nBBdT)

231 >The Last Ship": why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations?


For flair.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 09:32 PM (nM879)

232 229 Question for Navy folks - I've been watching "The Last Ship": why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations? I've noticed that in other movies, too.
Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 09:31 PM (ANIFC)



Not Navy. Not military at all, but um, perhaps the risk of shrapnel?

Posted by: buzzion at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (z/Ubi)

233 Bwahahahahaha. Juan Williams is looking forward to reading Hillary's book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (nBBdT)

234 Question for Navy folks - I've been watching "The Last Ship": why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations? I've noticed that in other movies, too.
Posted by: josephistan at September




Better question, why does the Navy want its sailors to wear waterflage? Wouldn't painting the camo pattern on the ships make more sense? Or giving sailors uniforms te same color as the ship?

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (0wem/)

235 On 9/11/02 LGF readers were invited to share where they had been a year earlier. A woman named Tillie who worked in the Twin Towers wrote a very moving account of her ordeal. she got out before the buildings fell if I remember correctly. Until the fat assed bike boy turned on his old readers, "Tillies story" was featured on the sidebar.

Then the asshole deleted it. Erasing history and the horrors of that day in order to kiss the asses of the left.

Now, he's ignored by the Left and despised by the right. a contemptible worm.

Posted by: Donna and V. at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (P8951)

236 We should all remember all the GAYS AND LESBIANS that gave their lives for that idiot Bush on September 11. We still hate Bush and Trump to for lying.....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (WmgTn)

237 National Lampoon's take on Chappaquiddick:


I remember that, it was hilarious.

Toss up between that and "Buy This Magazine Or We'll Shoot This Dog" cover for funniest Lampoon evah.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 11, 2017 09:34 PM (gIRsn)

238 OMG, NBC sez Menendez is a Democrat!!!

https://tinyurl.com/ybvt6wcm

Somebody's gonna get fired!!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 11, 2017 09:34 PM (eMKNe)

239 Chappaquadik was one of the definiting moments in the 20th century and one that is still resounding today. It was decided that a young woman's life was worth less than a politician's career.

The only way to come to that conclusion is completely remove morality--the sense of "right" and "wrong"--from the equation. The conclusion then becomes obvious.

Look upon the left in the decades since. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton. They all learned the lesson of Chappaquadik well--power justifies everything. Power justifies everything.

That sort of thing has leaked into the rank-and-file left as well. Look at the SJWs--if you can stand to do so. They are Kennedy's children.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 11, 2017 09:34 PM (l9m7l)

240 Donna - I remember Tillie. Wow.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:35 PM (lwiT4)

241 Bwahahahahaha. Juan Williams is looking forward to reading Hillary's book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (nBBdT)



Did he say who is going to read it to him?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 09:35 PM (auHtY)

242 True story: Family friends were close to Kennedys. Kennedys wanted friend to claim he was driving Mary Jo. Friend said no - Kennedys cut off all contact.

Posted by: Boston Bob at September 11, 2017 09:35 PM (bc2Lc)

243 why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations?
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So they can't see the ship they are about to ram.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, U.S. Army, which never rammed anyone at September 11, 2017 09:35 PM (nBBdT)

244 Sometimes you guys are as ridiculous as the Left.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (LuKE7)


I might be, but I don't remember FDR going before Congress saying the Japanese people were gentle inquisitive tourists who were just visiting Hawaii. We didn't whitewash our enemies or what we would do to defeat them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:36 PM (0hfEM)

245 If you live in the San Fernando Valley of Failifornia (love that) let me know. We need a meetup!
Posted by: Roxanne in CA at September 11, 2017 09:30 PM (lbumz)
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you mean, like me, the moron who coined the term #Failifornia?


Posted by: redc1c4, Valley Dude, like totally, fer sure! at September 11, 2017 09:36 PM (UVPdS)

246 I found this on DuckDuckGo:

9/11/07 2:35:17 pm : Views: 4,974
If you haven't discovered "Tilly's Story" of surviving the 9/11 attacks at the World Trade Center, posted here on September 13, 2003, now might be a good time read it ... or re-read it:


And yes, ponytail fatass deleted all the links.

So here's Free Republic -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981966/posts

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2017 09:36 PM (6FqZa)

247 on this day i think of my father. his birthday was today. happy birthday dad. also i think of all the innocent people who were murdered by a vile cult known as islam. i don't give a fuck about some little green fucktard and his handful of minions. history channel is running a 9/11 special now. no narrative, just police and fire communications. i won't forget what those godless scumbags did on this day, ever. it is way past time to glass the middle east.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2017 09:36 PM (KP5rU)

248 >>The Last Ship": why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations?

So nobody can tell who was just in the Barrel.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 09:36 PM (nM879)

249 "@81 Illinois dead voters/papa Daley won it for him I believe"

Years ago, a now-deceased conservative Catholic blogger from Chicago (Tom Roeser), who was old enough to remember this and possibly in a position to know, claimed that Daley Sr's massive GOTV drive in 1960 was NOT actually aimed primarily at electing JFK, but at defeating a Republican candidate for Cook County state's attorney (prosecutor) who had once been a friend of his, but now was vowing to aggressively pursue corruption in City Hall and elsewhere, and actually had a good shot at winning. Not sure how true that is but given that genuine Chicago Machine pols consider mayor or alderman the highest office one can attain -- to which state or federal office is secondary and merely a steppingstone -- I have to wonder.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (9WuX0)

250 If you are a believer, you know that there is a prince of this world. He is the Prince of Lies and the enemy of God and all that is good.

That is the baseline for this world. Evil and lies.

People who say that there is "good in everybody" are lying to themselves. There is good in many. But the "world lies in the evil one." Most belong to him.

That's the reality.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (2wRtc)

251 So the sequel to Chappaquiddick will be Chappaquadick.

Do not want to spoil anything but someone turns up in a claw foot bathtub.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (0wem/)

252 Why is it stated that Harsayni et al dictate with any sort of accuracy what "the coverage" of 911 indicates within our "culture?" It's fucking baffling to me. It's Harsayni's utterly defeatist words that are the depressing element: to think ANY arm of the media has that power to tell us what we believe, what we feel, etc. And in no way does "coverage" of anything determine popular sentiment.

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (/z8es)

253 The saddest thing about 9-11 is how much the terrorists have won. Criticism of Islam is "hate speech." Western governments turn a blind eye to rape and genital mutilation. An American president declares "The Future shall not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam." The Muslim Brotherhood on the march. Iran given billions to continue Islamic Terrorism. Lots of winning for the Islamic Supremacists

Posted by: V the K at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (AGgk4)

254 National Lampoon's take on Chappaquiddick:


I remember that, it was hilarious.
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Was that the one with the VW ad?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, U.S. Army, which never rammed anyone at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (nBBdT)

255 True story: Family friends were close to Kennedys.
Kennedys wanted friend to claim he was driving Mary Jo. Friend said no -
Kennedys cut off all contact.

Posted by: Boston Bob at September 11, 2017 09:35 PM (bc2Lc)
=====================================

Amazing. Is power so irresistible that a person can be willing to kill for it? I mean it's not like Ted would be out on the street if he didn't make President.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:38 PM (lwiT4)

256 If you live in the San Fernando Valley of Failifornia (love that) let me know. We need a meetup!





Posted by: Roxanne in CA at September 11, 2017 09:30 PM (lbumz)
Hey, girl! Thanks for unlurking! I'm in WLA but leaving for Indianapolis in less than a month. Sorry I will not get to meet you (but, of course, I don't *do* the Valley anyway, lol).

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:38 PM (EgOr3)

257 I remember just a few days later The Left and the media were asking what we did to provoke 9/11 and talking about the Pentagon as a "legitimate" target.

John Edwards --"Two Americas" existed before 9/11.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at September 11, 2017 09:29 PM (cHrxO)

I imagine it was just killing the left to have to fake patriotism for a few weeks. It didn't last.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 11, 2017 09:38 PM (Ri/rl)

258 Look up anti-flash gear. I think the "scarves" are part of the basic anti-fire and flash protection. It's to protect against burns caused by shit blowing up and catching fire due to enemy fire and all that.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (8O3HH)

259 Mortimer is right.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (lwiT4)

260 It is a quandary.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 11, 2017 09:27 PM (9q7Dl)
______________

Yep.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (BXf9o)

261 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 11, 2017 09:34 PM (l9m7l)

I'd stand your analysis on it's head, in one respect:

Chappaq--fukkit i'm not even going to try to spell it right-- didn't *teach* anything. It was an unlearning moment. Reverting to the default mode of humanity before anglo-american (call it "Western"?) civilization.

Power always has justified everything. The idea of laws above men being very rare among human civilizations, that moment basically was like the addict slipping after how many days of being clean. And once the streak is broken, well, screw it, might as well do it again. And here we are.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (hcyUh)

262 why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations?
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It goes with our little caps!

Posted by: admiral bruce at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (mJ8mX)

263 True story: Family friends were close to Kennedys. Kennedys wanted friend to claim he was driving Mary Jo. Friend said no - Kennedys cut off all contact.
Posted by: Boston Bob at September 11, 2017 09:35 PM (bc2Lc)

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Any Kennedy "friendship" was situationally dependent. If one could not undetstanf that, they are not very situationally aware.

Posted by: Sidedraft at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (xiFYn)

264 Better question, why does the Navy want its sailors to wear waterflage? Wouldn't painting the camo pattern on the ships make more sense? Or giving sailors uniforms te same color as the ship?
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (0wem/)

Well that is being rectified...we are all changing over to the green cammies ...It's being rolled in by region. They are stating our with the all the recruits in boot camp

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (SjImc)

265
Bwahahahahaha. Juan Williams is looking forward to reading Hillary's book.
===

It will help him reload his own bandoleer of excuses.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (2wRtc)

266 "
On the sixteenth anniversary of 9/11, David Harsyani writes that the
country is divided and may never feel again the same (largely fictive)
unity it did post-9/11."


And that is why my favorite 9/11 video has a different feel for me now than it did right after.

http://tinyurl.com/ycnyy72y

As for the left and their friends who did the deed, I despise them both right back.

Posted by: geoffb5 at September 11, 2017 09:40 PM (zOpu5)

267 Better question, why does the Navy want its sailors to wear waterflage? Wouldn't painting the camo pattern on the ships make more sense? Or giving sailors uniforms te same color as the ship?

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:33 PM (0wem/)

TAH, 7 Sep 17 has post ref: Stars & Stripes: Navy changing duty uniform.

Posted by: dDan at September 11, 2017 09:40 PM (hwYmz)

268 259
Mortimer is right.



Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (lwiT4)
Always. Finest kind of American right there, smart as a whip.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:40 PM (EgOr3)

269 Posted by: Secret Square at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (9WuX0)

Heard long ago that Daley got I 90 funds for his "got"

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 09:40 PM (QC/4S)

270 NGU was quicker.

Posted by: dDan at September 11, 2017 09:41 PM (hwYmz)

271 And once the streak is broken, well, screw it, might as well do it again. And here we are.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 09:39 PM (hcyUh)


Come on, it's not like the Founders ever intended for the laws to apply to the anointed ones!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:41 PM (gwPgz)

272 I might be, but I don't remember FDR going before Congress saying the Japanese people were gentle inquisitive tourists who were just visiting Hawaii. We didn't whitewash our enemies or what we would do to defeat them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:36 PM (0hfEM)

We named our enemies and weren't afraid of offending the little darlings. This is war.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 11, 2017 09:41 PM (Ri/rl)

273 Thank you, boulder terlit hobo.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:41 PM (lwiT4)

274 Well that is being rectified...we are all changing over to the green cammies ...It's being rolled in by region. They are stating our with the all the recruits in boot camp
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September




Heh, well I was aware of that but I like asking the question. Hate to think anyone got lost after falling overboard because he was camouflaged.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:42 PM (0wem/)

275 NGU was quicker.
Posted by: dDan at September 11, 2017 09:41 PM (hwYmz)


Well I gotta buy them..LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:42 PM (SjImc)

276 Was that the one with the VW ad?

Yeah. The thing I quoted has a link to an article with the VW ad. Says it was recalled, which I don't remember.

(Of course, I was 13 -- just looked up the date -- and quite a precocious 13 for someone who is still only 29).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 11, 2017 09:42 PM (gIRsn)

277 TAH, 7 Sep 17 has post ref: Stars & Stripes: Navy changing duty uniform.
Posted by: dDan at September




Yeah but it was still stupid. Like putting Air Force guys in uniforms that looked like runways.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:42 PM (0wem/)

278 Trump is an incompetent bully?Better than Obama the incompetent fag traitor.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 09:43 PM (rmVvL)

279 Hate to think anyone got lost after falling overboard because he was camouflaged.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:42 PM (0wem/)

Well if you fall overboard under way , your basically fucked no matter what your wearing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:43 PM (SjImc)

280 You would think NGU would have a pastel uniform resembling a dentist's chair.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:43 PM (0wem/)

281 253 The saddest thing about 9-11 is how much the terrorists have won. Criticism of Islam is "hate speech." Western governments turn a blind eye to rape and genital mutilation. An American president declares "The Future shall not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam." The Muslim Brotherhood on the march. Iran given billions to continue Islamic Terrorism. Lots of winning for the Islamic Supremacists
Posted by: V the K at September 11, 2017 09:37 PM (AGgk4)
__________________

Yep.

One of the women co-bloggers on Insty's site has a piece up about how she went to France recently, and on the the way back she (and a bunch of other older white Europeans) were stopped and taken out of the line and made to go through extra security procedures. Meanwhile, young Muslim men were going through the line with no problem, nobody stopping and questioning or searching them.

Oh, and the people doing the security checks on the older white European passengers? All Muslims.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 09:44 PM (BXf9o)

282 Well if you fall overboard under way , your basically fucked no matter what your wearing.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September




Oh yeah but there is bad and worse.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:44 PM (0wem/)

283 Yeah but it was still stupid. Like putting Air Force guys in uniforms that looked like runways.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:42 PM (0wem/)

Well that but we hate them because they are so uncomfortable in so many ways. Both the Marine and Army cammie is much better

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:44 PM (SjImc)

284 Hey, girl! Thanks for unlurking! I'm in WLA but leaving for Indianapolis in less than a month. Sorry I will not get to meet you (but, of course, I don't *do* the Valley anyway, lol).
Posted by: Peaches
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Just promoting the Hoosier theme:

Oh, listen to the jingle, the rumble and the roar
As she glides along the woodland, o'r hills and by the shore
She climbs the flowery mountain, hear the merry hobos squall
She glides along the woodland, the Wabash Cannonball.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, U.S. Army, which never rammed anyone at September 11, 2017 09:44 PM (nBBdT)

285 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2017 09:36 PM (6FqZa)

That story is horrifying.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 11, 2017 09:44 PM (Ri/rl)

286 I remember 9/11.

When I was a rookie in the burn house, pulling on my pants crammed down over my boots , turnout out coat, airpack and helmet, throwing the "high-rise pack" on my shoulder and climbing those damn stairs again and again.

Fast forward to 2001.
Working as a computer geek, watching "Drudge Report" and realizing that something was terribly wrong.

We turned on the office tv. And watched those guys throwing the "highrise pack" on their shoulders. And being so proud of these American guys determined to get to that top floor.

And then watching it fall.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (2wRtc)

287 You would think NGU would have a pastel uniform resembling a dentist's chair.


He has a Marathon Man poster in his office and just blends into it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (gIRsn)

288 i have been angry every day since september 11, 2001.

i became angrier on september 11, 2012.

if you are not angry, you have forgotten, if you have forgotten, shame on you.


Posted by: phoenixgirl... at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (0O7c5)

289 Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:42 PM (0wem/)

Agree. I'm sure there's more going on in the background, but to me the Uniform deciders seem to be all over the place except the one spot they should be.

Posted by: dDan at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (hwYmz)

290 So, Peaches - I hear you're going to move to the pleasant Midwest, just in time for blizzard season. Well, at least the man at the shovel store will be friendly when he sells you a pallet full of road salt. His wife will probably bake you a pie too. So you can freeze it when you're unable to leave your house for the entire month of February.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (lwiT4)

291 Yes, redc1c4, you exactly! September 27 happy hour at the river rock in studio city. Peaches, we will miss you. And no offense, because I don't do west LA either! ;-)

Posted by: Roxanne in CA at September 11, 2017 09:46 PM (lbumz)

292 i have been angry every day since september 11, 2001.

i became angrier on september 11, 2012.

if you are not angry, you have forgotten, if you have forgotten, shame on you.




Posted by: phoenixgirl... at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (0O7c5)
Hell, yeah! It fries my ass so hard the way they've tried to bury this. And all the ensuing madness.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:46 PM (EgOr3)

293 Agree. I'm sure there's more going on in the background, but to me the Uniform deciders seem to be all over the place except the one spot they should be.
Posted by: dDan at September




Yeah

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:47 PM (0wem/)

294 I tried to change it from inside.

I failed.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:47 PM (2wRtc)

295 Posted by: dDan at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (hwYmz)

Added:

It doesn't involve me or anything I do, but I have to wonder: How hard do you have to try, to keep missing the one spot ? At some point it becomes intentional.

Posted by: dDan at September 11, 2017 09:47 PM (hwYmz)

296 Posted by: phoenixgirl... at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (0O7c5)

Amen pg!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:48 PM (gwPgz)

297 Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
His truth is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps,
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps:
His day is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on."
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat:
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on.
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:48 PM (s5o+q)

298 Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:45 PM (lwiT4)

Ah, I grew up in New England. I like snow. I love thunderstorms. I hate leaving my house. Plus, while I will need a shovel for the driveway, the HOA clears the roads. Just have to plan ahead, beer-wise. I literally can't wait, I'm losing my freakin' mind here.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:48 PM (EgOr3)

299 John, we won't forget. God bless you and your family.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at September 11, 2017 09:48 PM (HWFq/)

300 'The saddest thing about 9-11 is how much the terrorists have won.'

Americans gave up a lot of their liberty after that. The TSA and Patriot Act exist because of Islamic terrorists.

Posted by: freaked at September 11, 2017 09:49 PM (jEC5W)

301 I made it a point to get up early today and watch the remembrances on C-Span. All those names.
My wife was a corporate travel agent and had people on those flights out of Boston. Really screwed her up bad. Families are calling her and what's she gonna tell them, the obvious? Ended up leaving the business.
A few years later we're in NYC and take the tour of the Intrepid. They have a 9/11 exhibit on the and one of the items was a wrecked window from one of the planes. And she fell apart. "What if one of my people was looking out that window when they hit?"
So I take 9/11 pretty personally. Mainly because of what it did to her.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 09:50 PM (O5Q3r)

302 I literally can't wait, I'm losing my freakin' mind here.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:48 PM (EgOr3)

I'm behind the times....

Where are you moving?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2017 09:50 PM (wYseH)

303 So what was the appeal of mental midget Charles Johnson in the first place?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 09:50 PM (rb1zT)

304 He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;

He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat:

Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet!

Our God is marching on.
===========================



Oh yes. I wish we would sing this in church like back in the old days. I lost it when they sang this at Reagan's funeral.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:51 PM (lwiT4)

305 Greetings from southeast Florida. Other than some downed trees and losing my backyard fences, we made out pretty well on my block (except for the guy who parked under the old oak tree that went down) 48 hrs without power, got it back on tonight, forgot it was 9/11, puts things in perspective. God bless America.

Posted by: Firehorse at September 11, 2017 09:52 PM (gN7It)

306 The saddest thing about 9-11 is how much the terrorists have won.
==

Everything since 9/11 has been avoidance. Distancing. Denial of reality.

How can you enforce a country who's law is based on denying reality?

The Founding Fathers did not foresee a nation of self-liars.

But here we are.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:52 PM (2wRtc)

307 'The saddest thing about 9-11 is how much the terrorists have won.'

Americans gave up a lot of their liberty after that. The TSA and Patriot Act exist because of Islamic terrorists.

Posted by: freaked at September 11, 2017 09:49 PM (jEC5W)


Islamophobia is now a valid criticism of a rational thought process and there's a madrassas and mosque in the no-go zone just down the street, but by golly we're diverse!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:52 PM (gwPgz)

308 So what was the appeal of mental midget Charles Johnson in the first place?

Several of us who were secularist learnt, on 9/11, that there were worse fundamentalists out there. Johnson got out there early as a secularist who realised this.

Also his site was very well-coded. (By 2001 standards). So it looked professional.

Also also he had curated a community of very well-informed and intelligent people. (This was long before that fuckwit 'zimriel' showed up...)

We have Ace now.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2017 09:53 PM (6FqZa)

309 Where are you moving?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2017 09:50 PM (wYseH)
Indianapolis, CBD. Actually, south of the city proper, about halfway between the airport and Greenwood. Buying sight unseen over the internet. You are more than welcome to come visit, the kitchen looks pretty fab! :-)

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:53 PM (EgOr3)

310 Firehorse. You certainly have a good attitude. Sorry to hear of the damage, but glad you're okay.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:53 PM (nBBdT)

311 Here's what I wonder about: when the next big attack in the U.S. happens (not just a few dozen murders at one time, which is something we have sadly become used to), but something on the scale of 9/11 or bigger, how are we going to respond then? Are we going to continue to pretend it's not about Islam? Are we going to keep insisting that "Islam is a religion of peace"? Are we still going to tiptoe around Muslims and treat them as the "real" victims of terrorist attacks?

What is it going to take? How many more Americans are going to have to die before we face reality?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 09:53 PM (BXf9o)

312 Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 09:48 PM (s5o+q)

This is one of the times I wish I could upvote a comment here. Thank you.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (EgOr3)

313 There were never muslim holidays on calendars before 9/11.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (ANIFC)

314 >>>So what was the appeal of mental midget Charles Johnson in the first place?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop<<<

Shh. They've been talking about this clown for 15 years. Don't encourage them.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (D0riW)

315 Airforce One flew over my house here about 35 minutes east of the Mississippi River that 911 evening. Low and Slow. I stood in the yard and looked up, watching it against a preternaturally blue September sky.

My Pastor said our country was very far gone if God allowed Hagar's children to attack us.

Tonight I noticed my calendar has Islamic holidays marked right along with Rash Hashana and Labor Day. Why?

Posted by: booknlass at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (SBgDf)

316 Let the Hero born of Woman
Crush the Serpent with his Heel.

Always been my favorite verse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (rb1zT)

317 On naval antiflash:

Admiral Sir Sandy Woodward, who commanded the Royal Navy force which took back the Falklands, described the combat scenes in his CIC as otherworldly.

Everyone, including Woodward himself, was wearing Nomex hoods and smocks, gauntleted gloves, goggles, and protective cream on any skin that might be exposed by movement.

And as accounts of the RN ships that were hit by Argentine bombs and Exocet indicate, everyone bitched bitterly about having to wear that heavy clumsy weird stuff, but they were happy afterwards that they had worn it.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (ujwCG)

318 We can't over-emphasize how destructive it is to have laws inconsistently applied. It is especially harmful that high-profile people have gotten away with serious felonies right in front of everybody.

Couple that with the "three felonies a day" whacko laws where any decent, harmless person could end up on the wrong side of The Law.

Not to mention legally harassing people when it suits those in power.

This portends ill.

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2017 09:55 PM (ZapPq)

319 airport and Greenwood. Buying sight unseen over the internet. You are more than welcome to come visit, the kitchen looks pretty fab! :-)
Posted by: Peaches at September




Don't buy anything from those redheads on the hgtv channel. Seem like a couple of grifters that specialize in shoddy construction with a design style called Appalachian chic

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:55 PM (0wem/)

320 Tonight I noticed my calendar has Islamic holidays marked right along with Rash Hashana and Labor Day. Why?

Posted by: booknlass at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (SBgDf)
Because our "leaders" have failed us, in the most horrific way.

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:55 PM (EgOr3)

321 315; because your pastor was right. i would burn that fucking calendar.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2017 09:55 PM (KP5rU)

322 filbert

i'm old enough to remember when this was a regular hymn at my catholic church.....they haven't played it in decades now.....it's one of my favorites....and i was thinking about it just today!!!!!!!!! thank you for posting it.


Posted by: phoenixgirl... at September 11, 2017 09:55 PM (0O7c5)

323 about halfway between the airport and Greenwood.
----

Last time I was in Greenwood, my '68 Camaro was on a chassis dyno, getting the spa treatment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (nBBdT)

324
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2017 09:50 PM (wYseH)

I'll call you tomorrow about the books. You free wednesday to come and deliver them with me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (SjImc)

325 Are we going to continue to pretend it's not about Islam? Are we going to keep insisting that "Islam is a religion of peace"? Are we still going to tiptoe around Muslims and treat them as the "real" victims of terrorist attacks?

Who's "we"?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (fEaGb)

326 Engraved sign I read on top of outdoor observation roof of WTC around '76...This is as close to Heaven some of us ever will get.

Posted by: Corona at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (zIb93)

327 Indianapolis, CBD. Actually, south of the city proper, about halfway between the airport and Greenwood. Buying sight unseen over the internet. You are more than welcome to come visit, the kitchen looks pretty fab! :-)
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 09:53 PM (EgOr3)

There is a absolutely fantastic mexican restaurant in a stripmall in greenwood run by an OCD mexican family. Cleanest kitchen I have ever seen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (rb1zT)

328 Firehorse - I'm glad you're safe and relatively in good shape. Glad your power is on - that's huge!

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (lwiT4)

329 Hi Peaches!


You're gonna love Indy.

I just got this feeling...

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (2wRtc)

330 Wind is blowing like crazy in GA.

Power up and down. Just like the last 6 thunderstorms we had here.

Only maybe a little bigger wind gusts.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:57 PM (2wRtc)

331 josephistan, that's kind of funny you and I made the same comment at the same time.

I guess I owe you a Coke. or you owe me one.

Posted by: booknlass at September 11, 2017 09:57 PM (SBgDf)

332 The Sunday after 9/11 my (RC) church was full (central NJ). The battle hymn of the republic was sung as powerfully as you can imagine. The priest, an older man, gave the most powerful sermon I have ever heard. It was a war sermon and it pulled no punches about who was responsible for starting the war. The congregation was in tears and we could have taken Tora Bora that afternoon. 16 years later it's as if it never happened.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at September 11, 2017 09:57 PM (HWFq/)

333 Tonight I noticed my calendar has Islamic holidays marked right along with Rash Hashana and Labor Day. Why?

Posted by: booknlass at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (SBgDf)


Sharia law is no longer creeping in the US, it's running full tilt!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 09:57 PM (gwPgz)

334 Well,you see they attacked us and killed thousands.Declared that we must convert or die and our answer was to bend over backwards to let more in the country and show our respect for their barbaric religion.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 09:58 PM (rmVvL)

335 Drudge should have had some stories up about how Las Vegas has been testing their civil defense sirens and warming up their stolen car text alert system.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 09:58 PM (0wem/)

336 313 There were never muslim holidays on calendars before 9/11.
Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 09:54 PM (ANIFC)

I remember as a very young child seeing Eid on calendars, sometimes Ramadan, but that's it. That's how I first learned that there was even such a thing as Islam as a religion.

Now it's every damned made up minor provincial celebration, as if it were a straight up orthodox christian liturgical calendar.

As if any Muslim in America A) gives a crap about most of these holidays to begin with or B) needs a damned english-language Kuffir Gregorian calendar to remind them.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 09:59 PM (hcyUh)

337
I'm behind the times....

Where are you moving?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 11, 2017 09:50 PM (

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Peaches and Insomniac are getting married and moving to the coast. Don't know all the details, but there's a manatee named Barbara involved. Grammie Winger was going to be the flower girl, but she got fed up with insom being a bridezilla. I think I have that right.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 11, 2017 09:59 PM (gC2IV)

338 Oh and elect a racist left winger bent on destroying America with the middle name Hussein....

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 09:59 PM (rmVvL)

339 I'll call you tomorrow about the books. You free wednesday to come and deliver them with me?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September



Why does the idea that the HQ has more than one set of books seem reasonable?

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (0wem/)

340 Screw that fooker, Charles!!! He sold me out!!!

Posted by: wild irish hose at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (mJ8mX)

341 Well, I ain't never gonna forget 9-11. Why? Because I knew on 9-12 that the left and rinos were backstabbers, and would not take long to submit to islam. I will not surrender nor submit.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (zLDYs)

342 The congregation was in tears and we could have taken Tora Bora that afternoon. 16 years later it's as if it never happened.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at September 11, 2017 09:57 PM (HWFq/)
================================

It's awful.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (lwiT4)

343 You're gonna love Indy.

I just got this feeling...


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (2wRtc)
Me, too, sweetcheeks! And you are invited, once I get the guest room furnished!
Aetius451AD . . . does the restaurant have a name or an address? Because, I could live on Mexican food for the rest of my life. :-)

Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (EgOr3)

344 Screw that fooker, Charles!!! He sold me out!!!


Posted by: wild irish hose at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (mJ8mX)
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Oh that made me laugh - Ha!

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 10:01 PM (lwiT4)

345 "The media could not be played"

Nah, just gonna pass on this one.

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2017 10:02 PM (7ulel)

346 At Newark airport today waiting for my for my flight. An F16 took off. From Newark airport. I think I was the only one near me who reacted. Prolly the NJ airguard. Flew over my house at tree top level on 9/11.

Posted by: The Cookie Man at September 11, 2017 10:02 PM (HWFq/)

347 Mark Hemingway is a typical useless 'trucon' Voted tor McMullin because MUH PRINCIPLES ( which means he was not only OK with Hillary as POTUS, he actively tried to get her elected) and who talks about 'all the good' Ted Kennedy did (1965 Immigration Act? Inventing 'Bork-ing'?) while calling Trump a bully.
He and his loser Never Trump pals along with their 'principles' can go f**k themselves, because no matter how many articles, filled with elegant prose they produce, they have done nothing to help preserve the Republic but have only helped the DC bureaucracy expand and thrive.

Posted by: Dancing Queen E. Lee at September 11, 2017 10:02 PM (+51lA)

348 Who's "we"?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (fEaGb)


I think that usage is sort of like the modern Imperial "We". As in "We", your betters, will make sure "You", our obvious inferiors, comply with our directives, whilst we drink Dom Perignon in "Our" gated communities!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 10:02 PM (gwPgz)

349 If abortions had been legal, would Ted have left her in the car? Just wondering...

Posted by: t-bird at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (7ulel)

350 94 "after 911 we elected a muslim/commie President who gave open door privileges at the White House to the muslim brotherhood. He installed muslim/commies everywhere in the Federal government, which, coincidently focused its energies on oppressing its own citizenry. We are now bankrupt, completely infiltrated, being attacked from within, invaded, and spied upon by all the big corporate interests, which all appear to be unapologetically Leftist, and being threatened by pissant countries that don't have the GDP of Detroit." Posted by: navybrat

I will never forget our heroes.
Or our victims.
Or this.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (Ndje9)

351 Who's "we"?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 09:56 PM (fEaGb)
________________

Bush, Obama, Clintons, most of the congress and senate, the federal bureaucracy, most of the state governments, many local governments, the U.S. education system (secondary and post-secondary), U.S. military leaders, the MSM, Hollywood, and tens of millions of U.S. voters -- for starters.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (BXf9o)

352 Me, too, sweetcheeks! And you are invited, once I get the guest room furnished!
Aetius451AD . . . does the restaurant have a name or an address? Because, I could live on Mexican food for the rest of my life. :-)
Posted by: Peaches at September




People would be much more motivated to visit if there were no guest room.

Like me in Las Vegas. I would offer to let SMFH bunk with me but I have queen beds.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (0wem/)

353 Geraldo is over-dramatizing the situation in Georgia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (9tO1t)

354 As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,

Always sends a shiver down my spine.

Freedom is a just and worthy cause.

Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 10:04 PM (s5o+q)

355 I felt so ashamed that I had forgotten it was 9-11. With all the shouting about Irma and our own family chaos, it completely slipped my mind. I made myself watch the video's of the news coverage that day, this morning when I got up. We cannot ever forget that day and those people that died. We cannot ever forget that the evil that conceived that plan is still out there and want us dead. I needed to remember that and the emotion we felt watching it all happen. We saw the people jumping out of the buildings, we couldn't even imagine it. My husband and I cried because we knew nothing would ever be the same for anyone.

Posted by: abby at September 11, 2017 10:04 PM (HBU7W)

356 Me, too, sweetcheeks! And you are invited, once I get the guest room furnished!
Aetius451AD . . . does the restaurant have a name or an address? Because, I could live on Mexican food for the rest of my life. :-)
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (EgOr3)

I'll see if I can find it for you. My best friend and his wife live in Indy. He took me to the place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 10:04 PM (rb1zT)

357 GW Bush bears a tremendous amount of the blame for it all.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 10:04 PM (rmVvL)

358 Nor will I sing The Battle Hymn Of The Republic.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2017 10:04 PM (zLDYs)

359 353 Geraldo is over-dramatizing the situation in Georgia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (9tO1t)

That statement is logically equivalent to the statement "Geraldo is in Georgia."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 10:05 PM (hcyUh)

360 Me, too, sweetcheeks! And you are invited, once I get the guest room furnished!
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Floor sleeping is great for the back.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 10:05 PM (2wRtc)

361 Peaches, I'm excited for you and your new home! Hope it turns out to be a big blessing!

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2017 10:05 PM (ZapPq)

362 Geraldo is over-dramatizing the situation in Georgia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (9tO1t)

He find Capone's fortune yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2017 10:05 PM (SjImc)

363 Well, I ain't never gonna forget 9-11. Why? Because I knew on 9-12 that the left and rinos were backstabbers, and would not take long to submit to islam. I will not surrender nor submit.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2017 10:00 PM (zLDYs)


A repeat lesson we should have learned from Viet Nam!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 11, 2017 10:05 PM (gwPgz)

364 Mortimer - Where in Georgia?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 10:07 PM (9tO1t)

365
I think Sheppie has Geraldo beat in the drama queen dept, though.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 10:07 PM (8O3HH)

366 354 As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,

Always sends a shiver down my spine.

Freedom is a just and worthy cause.
Posted by: filbert at September 11, 2017 10:04 PM (s5o+q)

The whole prayer/poem/song is wonderful. That is a good line too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 11, 2017 10:07 PM (rb1zT)

367 Looks like ONT is up, if it hasn't been called yet.

I'm not very observant.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 10:07 PM (hcyUh)

368
Bush, Obama, Clintons, most of the congress and senate, the federal bureaucracy, most of the state governments, many local governments, the U.S. education system (secondary and post-secondary), U.S. military leaders, the MSM, Hollywood, and tens of millions of U.S. voters -- for starters.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 10:03 PM (BXf9o)


Oh, I know. As Sam Goldwyn said, "Include me out!" Tens of millions of US voters don't labor under those delusions.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 11, 2017 10:07 PM (CSMDm)

369 Twin Towers ONT

Posted by: Delurk at September 11, 2017 10:08 PM (aAfW2)

370 #344 Very funny, Mr Leno grammie winger!

Posted by: wild irish hose at September 11, 2017 10:08 PM (mJ8mX)

371 Been watching 102 Minutes on history channel. It's weird as we were flying that day from NJ, Atlantic City. We almost chose Newark, but didn't.

We crossed paths w/ the Shanksville plane as we crossed over PA. Was freaky.

Posted by: Farmer at September 11, 2017 10:08 PM (yJ1e6)

372 "At Newark airport today waiting for my for my flight. An F16 took off. From Newark airport."

There were a couple of F/A-18s parked on the apron at Moffett Federal Airfield the other day. I didn't get the tail flashes so I couldn't make them as Navy or USMC. Since the Marine Hornet fleet is barely airworthy, I presume Navy.

I notice from time to time certain strange air movements around here by dot-mil metal, but that's the only thing I have observed recently.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 10:09 PM (ujwCG)

373 And the worst part of it all is that I can't comprehend that all of our betters don't react the same way that I do. I know you guys do which is why I lurk here but what the bloody hell is wrong with all of these people? How can the last 16 years be explained?

Posted by: The Cookie Man at September 11, 2017 10:09 PM (HWFq/)

374 Mortimer - Where in Georgia?
===

Alpharetta-ish.

Trees are bendy and I am going to have to bust out the leaf blower early this year.

But nothing on the roof and all the trees stayed put.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 10:09 PM (2wRtc)

375 "A repeat lesson we should have learned from Viet Nam!"

The average liberal at the time of Viet Nam thought that even if we have political disagreements at home, the Communists were so clearly odious that we should be able to unite against them.

The average liberal at the time of 9/11 thought that even if blah blah blah, the freakin' Taliban etc etc.

Trump needs to understand that the enemy is living right here and teaching at the universities.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 11, 2017 10:10 PM (6FqZa)

376 Well, good night, good people. I'll say a prayer for those families and friends who are remembering today, and grieving. This is a great gift, this country of ours. For all our troubles, we are still the most free and most prosperous and most wonderful nation in history. I am grateful to God that I was born an American. I hope I never take this great treasure for granted. Love you all.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 11, 2017 10:10 PM (lwiT4)

377 I was here during Opel in 1995.

This was NOTHING compared to that.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 10:13 PM (2wRtc)

378 At Newark airport today waiting for my for my flight. An F16 took off.
From Newark airport. I think I was the only one near me who reacted.
Prolly the NJ airguard. Flew over my house at tree top level on 9/11.

The evening of 9/11 I was cooking on the grill (ya still gotta eat right?) and an F-15 took off from Otis AFB on the Cape on full afterburner. One of the loudest things I've ever heard. Finally saw him about a minute later, climbing and headed west. Glad he was up there.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 10:13 PM (O5Q3r)

379 229 Question for Navy folks - I've been watching "The Last Ship": why does the crew put on scarves when they go to battle stations? I've noticed that in other movies, too.
Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 09:31 PM (ANIFC)

Anti-flash, to protect from burns.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 11, 2017 10:47 PM (brIR5)

380 Hi Mr. Ace.

This site just kills me!

One minute Im ripping my hair out and
The next minute Im laughing so hard
Im in tears!

You really have the knack for hitting nerves and funny bones,
In one single post? That dog pulling meat off
The grill...?

Oh hell no, that was a wrap-up to a post that
puts you at the top!

Thats why I posted a link to youre site to 3.26 million
People!!

"Ok, a few of my friends, but damn man please dont
Stop,"

I dont know where you get it from, but you are good,
DAMN good.

Im sending you the proceeds of my publisher
Clearing house proceeds of 65,000,000 to keep
Up this kick ass work!

Amazing!

Posted by: Jumpstart at September 11, 2017 10:59 PM (xR/nK)

381 Donna,

First of all, sorry for what you're going through. I can't imagine.

Secondly, I thought you might appreciate that "Tilly's Story" is still out on the Interwebz:
http://tinyurl.com/gpxpz6h

Posted by: parsimony at September 12, 2017 01:08 AM (xEt5a)

382 Hey J.J. Sefton-

I saw your post about Kathy Moran in the previous thread. I wanted you to know she was an employee at my company (long before I started), and she was beloved. People still talk about her enthusiasm, and recall how her laughter filled a room.

In 2002 the company created a prestigious community service/citizenship award in honor of her and three other of our employees who were killed that day while working in our NY field office in the towers. The company also planted a memorial garden. We moved into a new HQ building last year here in Illinois, and they transplanted the 16-year-old maple and the other plants to the new site in an even more prominent and attractive setting. Today we had a rededication ceremony and it was really beautiful. Cynic that I've become, I was floored and nearly moved to tears when near the end of the ceremony a bagpipe issued forth with "Amazing Grace".

It has not always been a smooth ride at our company, but they have always placed a very high priority on this award and honoring Kathy and the others' memory. For that I've always been grateful.

Posted by: parsimony at September 12, 2017 01:25 AM (xEt5a)

383 Posted by: parsimony at September 12, 2017 01:25 AM (xEt5a)

Thanks and it's good to know Tillly's Story is still out there.

It's also good to know your company is honoring the memory of Kathy Moran and the other 9/11 victims.

The only good thing the NY Times has done in a long time is publish those brief obits of the 9/11 victims.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez:the Crew was pitiful again tonight at September 12, 2017 06:48 AM (P8951)

384 373 And the worst part of it all is that I can't comprehend that all of our betters don't react the same way that I do."

Imagine this: there are more New Yorkers who hate Trump more fervently than they do Islamic terrorists - after 9/11. there are New Yorkers who think Confederate statues and "white supremacists" are a bigger threat than ISIS - after 9/11.

The mind boggles.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez:the Crew was pitiful again tonight at September 12, 2017 06:53 AM (P8951)

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