Supreme Court Temporarily Puts Trump's Travel Ban in Fuller Force Again as It Hears Briefing on the Issues and Debates a Ruling

The Ninth Circuit enjoined the government from implementing the travel ban in full, and the Supreme Court has temporarily stayed that injunction, meaning the travel ban is back in fuller effect.

Note it's in fuller effect, not full. That's because the Ninth Circus objected to two parts of the travel ban. One part they claimed was unconstitutional was limiting the family members who could visit their relatives in the US to close family members, not stuff like cousins.

The other part they claimed (falsely) was unconstitutional was the ban on refugees -- the Ninth Circus claimed that if there was a refugee resettlement group offering "formal assurances" on behalf of the refugee (that is, he's not a terrorist, etc.), it is unconstitutional to ban that refugee.

I have no idea how the hell they came up that special "some non-government group says it's okay so that overrides the US government's decision" doctrine.

The Trump Administration has chosen to only challenge the injunction as to the second claim of the Ninth Circuit (refugees with "formal assurances" of a sponsoring refugee resettlement group), and has passed on challenging the second claim (that family members permitted to visit must be "close" family members as the Trump Administration defined them).

However, even this limited stay-of-injunction may only be in effect as the Supreme Court weighs whether to permit the injunction to remain in place until the case is decided fully on the merits.

The Supreme Court will hear the cases (there are two cases, which they've consolidated into one big case) on Oct. 10th.

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1 Yeah!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 11, 2017 04:56 PM (4A5fG)

2 SONOBI!

Posted by: Capt. Kirk at September 11, 2017 04:56 PM (nM879)

3 Travel ban?
It's a travel TAX!

Posted by: wooga at September 11, 2017 04:56 PM (VBHoZ)

4 Trump should ask the 9th circuit how many divisions they have
And then ignore them.

Posted by: Roman Maroni at September 11, 2017 04:56 PM (KCCgc)

5 Kennedy issued the stay because IIRC the Ninth is in his group of circuits.

Hmm. I should go look up which ones Gorsuch has.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at September 11, 2017 04:56 PM (mf5HN)

6 Does fuller effect include gnashing of teeth?

Posted by: fluffy at September 11, 2017 04:57 PM (U0v/A)

7 Neither part was remotely unconstitutional at any sane or conceivable level, and this lawfare by judge has got to be stomped on, extra hard, by the supreme court or there will be very, very dire consequences in the future.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 04:57 PM (39g3+)

8
I have no idea how the hell they came up that special "some non-government group says it's okay so that overrides the US government's decision" doctrine.

-

Here's your chance NRA.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at September 11, 2017 04:57 PM (rjrh3)

9 SONOBI MUST DIE!!!

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 04:57 PM (O5Q3r)

10 I have no idea how the hell they came up that special "some
non-government group says it's okay so that overrides the US
government's decision" doctrine.

1) Insert fishhook into rectum
2) Pull

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2017 04:57 PM (LAe3v)

11 Our courts are lawless. If we are going to be ruled by one man, in this case, Justice Kennedy, then I'd prefer a Caesar outright.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 04:57 PM (QQ+il)

12 Speaking of smells...hoping that aroma isn't 'the fix' or 'a rat'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 04:57 PM (xJa6I)

13 Is it possible to import sexy, sexy robots as other than people, thereby avoiding need for approved refugee status?

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 11, 2017 04:58 PM (HtLSE)

14 By the time SCOTUS hears this, then an will be over.

But it is an important issue on Executive Power.

And I hope they beat the 9th Circuit Kangaroo Court with a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 11, 2017 04:58 PM (9xpg1)

15 At some point, you kinda hope that the USSC gets tired of the 9th Circus, and tells them to STFU.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2017 04:58 PM (EyPfd)

16 We need a group to vouch for hot Nordic women.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

17 They need to break up the 9th circuit. Or at least break AZ out of it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (xJa6I)

18 If we are going to be ruled by one man, in this case, Justice Kennedy, then I'd prefer a Caesar outright.

I would too, but in this case, Kennedy is actually reversing judges misusing their position, in part.

Its not some great achievement, though; as I understand it, a stay on judgments that are going to be examined is pretty standard.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (39g3+)

19 SONO(f)BI(tch)

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (7uYFy)

20 I predict they will overrule the 9th circus. if they don't I want my DUI laws and speed limits back to pre-liberal changes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (mpXpK)

21 Hey, speaking of Courts, and funny things involving Clintons....

http://tinyurl.com/y9d9cm68

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (EyPfd)

22 We need to ban Sonobi.

Posted by: Aunt Luna's phone at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (Eabwd)

23 We need a group to vouch for hot Nordic women.

And hot eastern european women.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (39g3+)

24 16 We need a group to vouch for hot Nordic women.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (QQ+il)

I like where your head is at.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (xJa6I)

25 Well, we can trust the Supreme Court justices to act in good faith without fear or favo . . . .

Jeez, I can't even type that with a straight face.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 11, 2017 05:00 PM (Nwg0u)

26 Where does it say in the constitution that you cannot ban anyone from entry into the country no matter how distressed or deserving they are?

If the Supreme Court does not prove exactly that then there is no point in having a constitutional court.

Posted by: Decaf at September 11, 2017 05:00 PM (35LZK)

27 We need a group to vouch for hot Nordic women.
And/or vouchers for hot Nordic women. $25,000 dollars a year a la jwest, but to be used on a hot Nordic woman of each family's choice.

Purely for educational purposes, of course.

Posted by: Sporkatus at September 11, 2017 05:00 PM (HtLSE)

28 So, who the f*ck can fire these 9th circuit assholes?

Posted by: Under Fire at September 11, 2017 05:00 PM (mcI77)

29 Have these third world countries joined together as a friend of the court to push to lift the ban? s/

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 05:01 PM (D0r5+)

30
Don't worry, there's always be special "hottie provisions" of the immigration and visa law. There's one, I forget what it's called, but basically it's a "famous people" visa. And then there is another one for models and other hotties that aren't big enough to make the famous people level.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:01 PM (8O3HH)

31 Somebody please get to work on creating a 12th Circut Court Of Appeals, reducing the 9th to just CA and breaking up an overgrown district. It's not 1917 anymore, it is 2017.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 11, 2017 05:01 PM (ujg0T)

32 28
So, who the f*ck can fire these 9th circuit assholes?

Posted by: Under Fire at September 11, 2017 05:00 PM (mcI77)

Congress, but there is no opposition party and the Dems don't give a shit because they are getting what they want.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (mpXpK)

33 I keep reading about robots or AI being able to take over lawyer and judge jobs, if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (6Ll1u)

34 Well, it's a damn good thing we've got the wise latina and the lickalotapus up there. They'll take care of EVERYTHING.

Posted by: Sponge at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (xttKs)

35 Its a sad day when the horde has a better grasp of whats constitutional than the scotus. Maybe President Trump can help remedy that situation.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (0OmEj)

36 Has anyone else noticed the increased incidence of land falling hurricanes since Sonobi arrived?

Posted by: Weasel at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (Sfs6o)

37 I wonder if these seven banned countries would agree to significant immigration to their countries of Christians and Jews?

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 05:03 PM (D0r5+)

38 All my right shoes have been hidden! Bill!! *hic!*

Posted by: Hillary 2020! at September 11, 2017 05:03 PM (bc2Lc)

39 21
Hey, speaking of Courts, and funny things involving Clintons....

http://tinyurl.com/y9d9cm68

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM (EyPfd)

Hmmm, one of the three is Mills.

Posted by: davidt at September 11, 2017 05:03 PM (XoldI)

40 >>I keep reading about robots or AI being able to take over lawyer and judge jobs, if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?

42

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 05:03 PM (nM879)

41 32
Congress, but there is no opposition party and the Dems don't give a shit because they are getting what they want.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (mpXpK)

Oh. Screwed then.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 11, 2017 05:03 PM (mcI77)

42 How many fucking times can a court try to block the same issue?

This is beyond ridiculous.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 05:03 PM (gG97F)

43 Maybe SCOTUS is tired of the 9th Circuit being such poopyheads and are getting tired of their infantile antics?

Nah, couldn't be that.

Posted by: Scott_T at September 11, 2017 05:03 PM (xGZ+b)

44 The following the rule of law doesn't simply mean complying with the erroneous and fellacious edicts of black robed tyrants but in appropriate situations absoultley requires telling judges to step the fuck off.

Because if we don't then the constitution essentially means whatever judges feel they can get away with.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2017 05:04 PM (2JcMg)

45 I keep reading about robots or AI being able to take over lawyer and judge jobs, if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (6Ll1u)

Depends on who wrote the software......

Posted by: Sponge at September 11, 2017 05:04 PM (xttKs)

46 35
Its a sad day when the horde has a better grasp of whats constitutional
than the scotus. Maybe President Trump can help remedy that situation.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (0OmEj)

The Democrat judges have never given a shit about what the Constitution actually says. They vote on politics.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 05:04 PM (mpXpK)

47 EXTERMINATE

Posted by: LawBot XP700 Elite Pro Lite at September 11, 2017 05:04 PM (QQ+il)

48 What this country needs is a strong, enforceable, Double D Cup Or Better exemption provision.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 11, 2017 05:04 PM (JO9+V)

49 I'm counting on at least one more retirement (either voluntary or by health reasons) from the Supreme Court before 2020. In that time we can only pray that President Trump continues to show wisdom in his choices.

I don't see the man as conservative, but he is a pretty common sense guy that sees things like two dudes getting married or a guy going into the little girl's room as ridiculous.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:04 PM (39g3+)

50 Please, oh please, let RBG be replaced with a real constitutional conservative! I got my butt willowed in the last 2 threads and no rum either.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2017 05:05 PM (zLDYs)

51 I keep reading about robots or AI being able to take over lawyer and judge jobs, if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be
============
Judge Dredd.

Posted by: wishful thinking is fun at September 11, 2017 05:05 PM (5fW4T)

52 Maybe SCOTUS is tired of the 9th Circuit being such poopyheads and are getting tired of their infantile antics?

Nah, couldn't be that.
Posted by: Scott_T

They should have been tired of them by the mid-1980s then.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2017 05:05 PM (wjmTS)

53 if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?

Given a reasonable degree of engineering expertise on the part of said robot, probably one hella fast guillotine.

Posted by: JEM at September 11, 2017 05:06 PM (TppKb)

54 "Our courts are lawless. If we are going to be ruled by one man, in this case, Justice Kennedy, then I'd prefer a Caesar outright."

-------

And that's how you get a dictator. When people can't trust the institutions to protect them they turn to a person who promises to do so. What's sad is that we can see where that leads just by looking at Venezuela.

Posted by: Decaf at September 11, 2017 05:06 PM (35LZK)

55
Looked it up. "O-1" is the famous people, "extaodinary ability" and that can mean, well, hey hey....

The hottie model one is H-1B3, I think.

One of the good thing our old pal Anthony Weiner did was put in a provision to open up 1000 hottie model slots.

He was very strong on this. He tried to expand the O-1 to make it include hottie models, but that got voted down.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:07 PM (8O3HH)

56 And that's how you get a dictator. When people can't trust the institutions to protect them they turn to a person who promises to do so. What's sad is that we can see where that leads just by looking at Venezuela.
===========
When the fit hits the shan in this country - it will make Venezuela will look organized.

Posted by: wishful thinking is fun at September 11, 2017 05:08 PM (do8xq)

57 Democrat judges have always worked backwards. They have the conclusion they want and work backwards to try to justify it constitutionally . That's how you get the ridiculous prenumbras.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 05:08 PM (D0r5+)

58 Judicial coup status:

[X] Intact
[ ] Other than intact

WTF is the "reasoning" behind *any* of this? The basis in law? Where is there any basis for any court to be "fine tuning" a presidential decision on national security matters under his authority? How can the Congress' delegation of authority to the executive in admissions be "unconstitutional"?

The court has no role here, other than a pro forma confirmation, that the authorities as stated in the constitution and delegated by Congress are what they have always been (I think the MA district judge limited himself to this).

Fundamentally unserious country, no where more spectacularly or perniciously so than in the collapse of rule of law.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 11, 2017 05:08 PM (QDnY+)

59 following the rule of law doesn't simply mean complying with the erroneous and fallacious edicts of black robed tyrants but in appropriate situations absolutely requires telling judges to step the fuck off.

This is correct, in spades (Eh? eh? See what I did there?). At no point does a judge equal the end of the argument. Judges can be wrong, and the American system of government not only presumes but requires the people to go over judges when they are wrong. Our system of law was in part built around a jury finding someone not guilty because they spoke the truth in a libel case -- up to that point it was standard British law that you were guilty of libel if you spoke ill of someone in power.

The founding fathers made it absolutely clear that the people were the final say in constitutionality. That if a law was unconstitutional then it simply was not law, it was just a piece of paper. Judges do not get the last word.

I am glad to see Ace up and kicking. I hope you are feeling a lot better, brother. I don't come here for the comments. I come here to read your stuff. I like the comments, but its your wit and analysis, wisdom and thoughts that got me hooked to this blog. I miss your think pieces.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:08 PM (39g3+)

60 In addition to my previous comment, I'm not suggesting that Trump is a dictator but that whoever comes after him will be chosen by the people to break the institutions that have failed the people.

Is there anybody in DC with an ounce of nous to work out what could happen?

Posted by: Decaf at September 11, 2017 05:09 PM (35LZK)

61 President Trump is not in any way a rightwing conservative but he is a patriot who believes in America.
I have no illusions that he is in any way a conservative but he is no flaming progressive. That makes him an opponent to and an enemy of the dims and the gope

Posted by: USNtakim at September 11, 2017 05:10 PM (0OmEj)

62 Nice that unelected judges run the country isn't it?

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 05:11 PM (rmVvL)

63 58

Yeah. It's nice to win a battle and all, but the fact that we're in this battle means eventual loss seems inevitable.

Need structural change to the judiciary.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 11, 2017 05:11 PM (yL25O)

64 It will come down to one vote and may even go against us even though the law is crystal clear that the President has the authority to do this.

Had I been advising Trump, I would have made the travel ban on ALL refugees to make it harder legally for them to make their case.

Posted by: Maritime at September 11, 2017 05:11 PM (lKmt3)

65 "refugees with 'formal assurances' of a sponsoring refugee resettlement group"

"Sponsoring refugee resettlement groups", such as Catholic Charities, which take copious funding from Fedzilla to perform said refugee resettlement.

Fighting the fire while feeding the flames.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 05:11 PM (ujwCG)

66 I keep reading about robots or AI being able to take over lawyer and judge jobs, if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Heh. Sci-fi series Blake's 7 had a brief scene like that. I started thinking that this would be a good idea several years ago, when judicial abuse started to become de rigueur, ie. "balancing" (make it up as you go along) rather than "bright line" (interpreting the law as it is).

I think this would be good, as the left would be forced to concede that the computers should be programmed to interpret the law as it is.

Right now, they rely on sophistry and verbiage to pretend that they are taking the law seriously, as it is.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 05:12 PM (/qEW2)

67 Has there been any more chatter on splitting up the 9th Circuit?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2017 05:12 PM (jxbfJ)

68 It would be interesting if Vouchers agreed to accept the same jail time as any of their Vouchees should their vouching prove unvouchworthy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:13 PM (QQ+il)

69 Had I been advising Trump, I would have made the travel ban on ALL refugees to make it harder legally for them to make their case.

I agree, its the exceptions that are causing the ease of opposition. Shut it totally down, then start making individual exceptions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:14 PM (39g3+)

70 Just as an FYI -- Government ethics laws on nepotism say only spouse, children, parents and siblings are "immediate family"
Stated another way: grandparents, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, and cousins are not considered "immediate family."
So, the 9th circuit's ruling that "immediate family" includes grandparents and cousins for these refugees is truly based on nothing but their desires.

Posted by: Venus at September 11, 2017 05:15 PM (iYXhj)

71 Either the Executive branch has the constitutional authority or not.

Posted by: Very Undude at September 11, 2017 05:15 PM (2X7pN)

72 then start making individual exceptions

Or not. We don't need any immigrants. Lets have a hiatus for 25 years while we digest the current flood.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:16 PM (QQ+il)

73 "if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?"

I would prefer for such a robot to be an ED-209.

"CEASE YOUR UNCONSTITUTIONAL ABUSES AND USURPATIONS IMMEDIATELY. YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS TO COMPLY."

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 05:17 PM (ujwCG)

74 Oh my. I've heard of the Constitution before. I'm going to have to recuse the entire U.S. Department of Justice from taking sides in this matter.

* eyelids droop *

* faceplants in a plate of mashed potatoes and gravy *

Posted by: Slumberin' Jeff Sessions at September 11, 2017 05:17 PM (j+dfT)

75 But note that no matter how ludicrous the court's behavior becomes - citing campaign statements, divining "intent", simply as in this case introducing their own standards without any basis in law or the constitution, granting standing to parties who simply don't like a federal policy that is entirely lawful and constitutional - no one in the legal guild can bring themselves to admit it's lawlessness that now prevails.

The pathetic, and idiotic, expedient of saying courts have "final say" has at last reached its inevitable reductio ad absurdum. It was never part of the constitutional design - which is why the situation today is so clearly outside the constitution.

Trump's not a government or constitution guy by background, so I can see his not immediately grasping how perilous this is, and Sessions and Co. presumably are exactly the kind of narrow-vision clerks that make up almost the entire legal guild. So, nobody's home. They fight this fundamental battle on the margins, as though it's a trifle.

One can only hope that, soon, a court interferes with an order to the military, so that we can have a final test of whether the body will twitch, or not.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 11, 2017 05:17 PM (QDnY+)

76 The further Left we go the less likely it becomes to be able to make America great again. Trump's successor will have to promise then to the people to make America Right Again, in both senses of the word. The injustice will become too huge to resist it.

Just look at what the middle of America sees:

They must obey the law, aliens do not
They must pay taxes, aliens not so much
Their children must mortgage their future to get an education, the illegals do not
They must pay for their health insurance, the illegals do not
They must accept lower wages because of illegals
They must accept lowered security because of illegals
Etc, etc, etc.

Look at that list, build the wall, deport the illegals and a huge platform of grievances disappears.

Uncontrolled immigration is destroying the West, and that includes Europe, Australia, Canada ...

Posted by: Decaf at September 11, 2017 05:17 PM (35LZK)

77 I would prefer for such a robot to be an ED-209.

Exactly like ED-209, with the malfunction.

"but I stopped being unconstitutional!"

PUM PUM PUM PUM PUM

Rubble bullets, honest.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:18 PM (39g3+)

78 61 President Trump is not in any way a rightwing conservative but he is a patriot who believes in America.
I have no illusions that he is in any way a conservative but he is no flaming progressive. That makes him an opponent to and an enemy of the dims and the gope
Posted by: USNtakim at September 11, 2017 05:10 PM (0OmEj)

***************************************

FACT: President Trump is more conservative than the last 4 presidents, including the 2 named Bush.

Posted by: Venus at September 11, 2017 05:18 PM (iYXhj)

79 Looked it up. "O-1" is the famous people, "extaodinary ability" and that can mean, well, hey hey....

The hottie model one is H-1B3, I think.

One of the good thing our old pal Anthony Weiner did was put in a provision to open up 1000 hottie model slots.

He was very strong on this. He tried to expand the O-1 to make it include hottie models, but that got voted down.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:07 PM (8O3HH)

HB 8 and above only, please.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:19 PM (xJa6I)

80 OT, but this is an emergency, so I'm ignoring the 100 comment rule. This just in from Instapundit:

"Those hops in your favorite IPA are actually wonderful medicine for insomnia and menopause, thanks to their high phytoestrogen content. These same phytoestrogents, however, can also cause a condition known among brewers as Brewer's Droop." IOW, man boobs.

I'm not an IPA man, and there's even less chance of me becoming one now.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2017 05:19 PM (LAe3v)

81 Mexico will never get fixed as long as we let the fixers move here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:19 PM (QQ+il)

82 Yes, those "formal assurances" aren't worth spit.

The so-called charities are just money-grubbing organizations like Catholic Charities, which have been raking in big taxpayer money from "re-settling" refugees, at taxpayer expense, of course. The taxpayers have to pay the charities for re-settling the refugees, and then they also have to pay the "refugees" (through food stamps and the many other types of welfare that the "refugees" are entitled to once they're here). It's a bullshit scam that is ripping off billions from taxpayers every year.

Of course the "charities" want as many refugees to come in as possible, since they get paid by the head. The charities don't have any more ability to vet the refugees than the government has. So any assurances the charities give about the refugees is meaningless.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 11, 2017 05:19 PM (BXf9o)

83 Or not. We don't need any immigrants. Lets have a hiatus for 25 years while we digest the current flood.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

The illegal ones are giving us indigestion. Can we pass the IPECAC act?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 05:19 PM (/qEW2)

84 The rule of law is dead in the US. I do not know what it will take to restore the rule of law. The scotus and the judiciary is in need of some serious reform. DC is a hole in the ground that will never be reformed. What can be done at this point?

Posted by: USNtakim at September 11, 2017 05:19 PM (0OmEj)

85 id those bringg suit,target for removal f4om earth. kill their families first,all through cousins. always kill muslims. save ammo though hammer to infants heads. save the whales

Posted by: CW at September 11, 2017 05:20 PM (13zDr)

86 Soor-ry! The world's favorite country is closed for 25 years for cleaning and repairs. Come back January 2043! Huh-yuk!

Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 11, 2017 05:20 PM (JO9+V)

87 FACT: President Trump is more conservative than the last 4 presidents, including the 2 named Bush.

We shall see.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:20 PM (QQ+il)

88 Posted by: CW at September 11, 2017 05:20 PM (13zDr)

Who's the spaz?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:21 PM (QQ+il)

89 Red Bull gives you wings.IPAs give you tits.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 05:22 PM (rmVvL)

90 The pathetic, and idiotic, expedient of saying courts have "final say"
has at last reached its inevitable reductio ad absurdum. It was never
part of the constitutional design - which is why the situation today is
so clearly outside the constitution.

The system actually worked reasonably well as long as both sides agreed to follow the clear intent of the Constitution. That stopped long ago, so it's time for a Come to Jesus meeting.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2017 05:22 PM (LAe3v)

91 What can be done at this point?

Act of God.

I'm not joking here, that's our only hope. God's intervention in a manner we cannot anticipate or predict. It happens every so often in nations, where suddenly things turn around and people start to be more concerned about virtue and truth and righteousness. We're still sinful people so its never perfect, but it does happen. We need to be on our knees at least as much as we are out yelling and voting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:22 PM (39g3+)

92 88 Posted by: CW at September 11, 2017 05:20 PM (13zDr)

Who's the spaz?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:21 PM (QQ+il)

Fruit dessert fan?

Been seeing a lot of trolls lately in threads. Dunno why.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:22 PM (xJa6I)

93 Posted by: Venus at September 11, 2017 05:18 PM (iY

I'm going to need to see your FACT license. Operating an opinion as a fact without a license is punishable by having future posts ignored.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 05:23 PM (D0r5+)

94 That stopped long ago, so it's time for a Come to Jesus meeting.

Posted by: pep at September 11, 2017 05:22 PM (LAe3v)

And Jobu, with the smoke and drink.

Posted by: Cerrano at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (JO9+V)

95 The robot discussion is actually quite appropriate.

A low-level AI system could, indeed, do most of the *actual, appropriate* work of the judiciary. And especially constitutional matters.

This absurd idea that constitutional law or jurisprudence are complicated, or deep topics, is the gateway to all the idiocy we see.

And sure, since clearly it is now simply an unelected legislature, we can only hope for "good" appointments, soon. But it's important to recognize that the system has collapsed. System of men, not laws. Could not be more clear.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (QDnY+)

96 We'll only see a decent ruling if the Three Crones in Black lose their Eye of Sauron again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (gqOAX)

97 Act of God.

I'm not joking here, that's our only hope. God's intervention in a manner we cannot anticipate or predict. It happens every so often in nations, where suddenly things turn around and people start to be more concerned about virtue and truth and righteousness. We're still sinful people so its never perfect, but it does happen. We need to be on our knees at least as much as we are out yelling and voting.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:22 PM (39g3+)

Well that may not be the comfort we need. He raises the nations and brings them down. Look at England now?

I've had the dark suspicion that God's plans require America to be weak and divided in order for some very, very bad things to happen.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (xJa6I)

98 >>Been seeing a lot of trolls lately in threads.

Hahaha - Very funny.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (nM879)

99 87 FACT: President Trump is more conservative than the last 4 presidents, including the 2 named Bush.

We shall see.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:20 PM (QQ+il)

Agreed. I'm afraid of him back sliding into liberal policies compliments of JaVanka.

Posted by: WisRich at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (G0vdT)

100 >>>save the whales

STAY GOLD, PONYBOY!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 11, 2017 05:25 PM (zuKIv)

101 >> We need to be on our knees at least as much as we are out yelling and voting.

I bet you tell that to ALL the girls on a first date.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 05:25 PM (nM879)

102 FACT: President Trump is more conservative than the last 4 presidents, including the 2 named Bush.

I think that's kind of in error. Not because you're factually wrong but because you're mistaking basic common sense Americanism with conservatism.

Its not conservative to say a government should be concerned first and foremost about their own people.
Its not conservative to want judges who are strictly by the book constitutionalists.
Its not conservative to want to control immigration.
Its not conservative to be patriotic.
Its not conservative to want to help American businesses be strong and protected from outside predation.

Those are things conservatives agree with, but not out of ideology or principle, rather common sense. This is only proper and reasonable. There's nothing right wing about any of it; its just basic and obvious.

Too much of what is being called conservatism and right wing is just ... American. Its just reasonable. Its just common sense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:25 PM (39g3+)

103 98 >>Been seeing a lot of trolls lately in threads.

Hahaha - Very funny.
Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (nM879)

Garret! You're alive! There was this rush of flame in the last thread and this horrible sweet pork smell...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (xJa6I)

104
But can't some asshole judge in Hawaii or Seattle overrule the SC to give liberals what ever they want regardless of the law?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (493sH)

105 Any truth to the rumor several Ninth Circus judges were recently arrested while participating in an Antifa protest?

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (ylUqT)

106 @78

Trump is more conservative than Reagan.

Trump may be the most conservative President by temperament that we have ever had.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (2JcMg)

107 The act of God thing is why I started wearing PJs again, I don't want to get caught nekked when the big one hits socal.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (6Ll1u)

108
Vulcans would make the best high court judges.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (8O3HH)

109 At what point is the President's proper response to these shenanigans to say "LOL No. Sorry not sorry".

9th circus makes some bullshit ruling completely unmoored from any theoretical framework of jurisprudence. So what?

Just words on paper. The "ruling" itself is in-and-of-itself not worth the paper it's printed on, so just ignore it and get on with things.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (hcyUh)

110 Too much of what is being called conservatism and right wing is just ... American. Its just reasonable. Its just common sense.

+100

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (QQ+il)

111 Sonofabitch

Posted by: derbrererd at September 11, 2017 05:27 PM (4B1k/)

112 The system actually worked reasonably well as long as both sides agreed to follow the clear intent of the Constitution. That stopped long ago, so it's time for a Come to Jesus meeting.

And its up to we, the people, to make that happen. Not government, not federal leadership, not celebrities, just us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)

113 33 I keep reading about robots or AI being able to take over lawyer and judge jobs, if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 11, 2017 05:02 PM (6Ll1u)

The climate is warming and it's all caused by your SUV.

(AKA, the result is whatever the guy programming the AI wants it to be.)

Posted by: Iowa Bob at September 11, 2017 05:28 PM (tu3iY)

114 And its up to we, the people, to make that happen. Not government, not federal leadership, not celebrities, just us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)

Wait a minute. Are you saying that Jennifer Lawrence shouldn't work all of this out for us?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (493sH)

115 Trump may be the most conservative President by temperament that we have ever had.

Again, his policies and ideas are not driven by conservatism. They're driven by common sense, patriotism, and a desire to promote American business.

Conservatism is driven by small government constitutional love of freedom and protection of inalienable, God-given basic rights. Those things result in patriotism etc.

He doesn't have a conservative core and foundation, but he has principles derived from that foundation, a few steps removed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (39g3+)

116 And its up to we, the people, to make that happen. Not government, not federal leadership, not celebrities, just us.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)

One way or another, the courts must be purged.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (gG97F)

117 "SONOBI!"

You called?

Posted by: Sonobi Juan Canobe at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (jEC5W)

118 If you look at the judges who have ruled stupidly against Trump on this shit you will see what is at the heart of the rulings. There were three of them. Two are Obama judges and one is a Clinton judge. They do not give a shit for the constitution or the law.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (mpXpK)

119 Any truth to the rumor several Ninth Circus judges were recently arrested while participating in an Antifa protest?

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at September 11, 2017 05:26 PM (ylUqT)

They all should get a gas pellet to the groin

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (493sH)

120 Trump may be the most conservative President by temperament that we have ever had.

Coolidge has a pretty solid lock on that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (QQ+il)

121 This absurd idea that constitutional law or
jurisprudence are complicated, or deep topics, is the gateway to all the
idiocy we see. And sure, since clearly it is now simply an
unelected legislature, we can only hope for "good" appointments, soon.
But it's important to recognize that the system has collapsed. System of
men, not laws. Could not be more clear. Posted by: rhomboid at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (QDnY+)
=====

Isn't that the all-purpose excuse for everything imaginable: 'It's complicated'.

Cut spending: it's complicated
Constitutional governance: it's complicated
Voting rights: it's complicated
etc

Darn it all to perdition. I'm tired of that formulation because it is not.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2017 05:30 PM (MIKMs)

122 95
The robot discussion is actually quite appropriate.

A low-level
AI system could, indeed, do most of the *actual, appropriate* work of
the judiciary. And especially constitutional matters.

This
absurd idea that constitutional law or jurisprudence are complicated, or
deep topics, is the gateway to all the idiocy we see.

And sure,
since clearly it is now simply an unelected legislature, we can only
hope for "good" appointments, soon. But it's important to recognize that
the system has collapsed. System of men, not laws. Could not be more
clear.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 11, 2017 05:24 PM (QDnY+)

10 You are wrong, silly human.
20 Your case is dismissed with prejudice.
30 Go to 10

Posted by: Low Level AI at September 11, 2017 05:30 PM (tbOMB)

123 Any truth to the rumor several Ninth Circus judges were recently arrested while participating in an Antifa protest?

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man

STOP TORMENTING ME BY IMPLYING SUCH THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 05:30 PM (/qEW2)

124 warai-toko, as I said at the time, Trump basically violated his oath by complying with the court in WA. The oath is to uphold and protect the constitution. Complying with any court order, even valid ones, is not required to follow the oath. Complying with orders that are obviously baseless and violate the constitution (separation of powers) is arguably violating one's oath.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 11, 2017 05:30 PM (QDnY+)

125 We will never fully understand Gods ways I suppose. We can only continue to pray, vote and complain. Try to convert our opponents and sway our government.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 11, 2017 05:30 PM (0OmEj)

126 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:29 PM (39g3+)

So you're saying any "conservatism" Trump exhibits is mostly just a serendipitous result of plain old not being a jackass?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 05:31 PM (hcyUh)

127 123 Any truth to the rumor several Ninth Circus judges were recently arrested while participating in an Antifa protest?

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man

STOP TORMENTING ME BY IMPLYING SUCH THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 05:30 PM (/qEW2)

LOL

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:31 PM (xJa6I)

128 Ever noticed that those who tell us the issue is complicated never seem to make it any more understandable? What are the constituent simple parts of the complicated problem?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:32 PM (QQ+il)

129 >>Trump may be the most conservative President by temperament that we have ever had.

>Coolidge has a pretty solid lock on that.

Harrison assumed a pretty even temperament early on in his term.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 05:32 PM (nM879)

130
Today it was good to have a president at the 9-11 memorial who loves the country as opposed to one who openly hated it and sided with the people who were responsible for the attacks

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:32 PM (493sH)

131 So you're saying any "conservatism" Trump exhibits is mostly just a serendipitous result of plain old not being a jackass?

That's my take yeah. It just feels conservative because he's not a lunatic freaky leftist. Its the contrast.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:32 PM (39g3+)

132 Trump may be the most conservative President by temperament that we have ever had.

>Coolidge has a pretty solid lock on that.

Harrison assumed a pretty even temperament early on in his term.
Posted by: garrett

Lincoln assumed a pretty even temperature.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2017 05:33 PM (wjmTS)

133 Ok, I finally broke down and clicked the Sonobi ad. Just a bunch of social media selling bullshit.

Make it go away!

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 05:33 PM (gG97F)

134 Mark Andrew Edwards @ 97- Pretty good assumption. First and Second Chronicles is loaded with such examples. Second Chronicles V 15-27.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2017 05:34 PM (zLDYs)

135 132 Trump may be the most conservative President by temperament that we have ever had.

>Coolidge has a pretty solid lock on that.

Harrison assumed a pretty even temperament early on in his term.
Posted by: garrett

Lincoln assumed a pretty even temperature.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2017 05:33 PM (wjmTS)

Too soon...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:34 PM (xJa6I)

136 Country Boy, why would you do that? You know the rules about clicking on stuff around here.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 11, 2017 05:34 PM (gEvQ8)

137 Apropos of nothing, the Brave browser is getting really close to solid usability.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:34 PM (QQ+il)

138
Some socialite woman managed to engage Silent Cal at some party at the WH (or somewhere). She gushed, "Mr. President, I made a bet I could get you to say more than two words, tee hee!".

He replied, "You lose" and walked away.

Donny Two Scoops isn't that way at all. He runs his mouth too much. And that's what I like about him. He'll just say shit.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (8O3HH)

139 Today it was good to have a president at the 9-11 memorial who loves the country as opposed to one who openly hated it and sided with the people who were responsible for the attacks

And no presidential candidate collapsed and had to be thrown into a van, leaving a shoe behind, either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (39g3+)

140 Sonobi...

I thought maybe it was about them little chimps what like to get it on.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (sGSvK)

141 Don't forget me! Everybody forgets me!

Posted by: Zombie William McKinley - I Got Shot Too! at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (ul9CR)

142 Vulcans would make the best high court judges.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear

No. Computers. I can see Sotomayor getting pointy ear implants and eyebrow surgery and claiming to be a wise Vulcana.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 05:36 PM (/qEW2)

143 137 Apropos of nothing, the Brave browser is getting really close to solid usability.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:34 PM (QQ+il)

The Phillies browser is barely functional

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 05:36 PM (7HtZB)

144 Sonobi...

I thought maybe it was about them little chimps what like to get it on.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

"Sonobi - The new and improved trunk monkey!"

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2017 05:36 PM (wjmTS)

145 Country Boy, why would you do that? You know the rules about clicking on stuff around here.
Posted by: Old Blue at September 11, 2017 05:34 PM (gEvQ

I know I know, I need to just stick to the pr0n. Sorry.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 05:37 PM (gG97F)

146 There's a William McKinley High School in Buffalo.

Always reminded me of the fictional James Buchanan High on Welcome Back Kotter.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 11, 2017 05:37 PM (ul9CR)

147 >>>>>I keep reading about robots or AI being able to take over lawyer and
judge jobs, if you loaded up a robot with a copy of the constitution
and ran all the cases through it, what would the outcome be?

42
.
.
.
.I checked the answer twice.

Posted by: Deep Thought at September 11, 2017 05:37 PM (+Dllb)

148 54 When people can't trust the institutions to protect them they turn to a person who promises to do so. What's sad is that we can see where that leads just by looking at Venezuela. Posted by: Decaf

Justice Kennedy is a Bi-textual Menace, and Reagan would have never appointed him had he known he would impose his own definition of marriage on other free citizens. It seems most judges can't resist the Urge to Dictate, and our Constitution is weak on consequences.

But we're not leading towards Venezuela; all the shaking is because we've already *had* our Venezuela--years of Communist misrule. And there is no other kind.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 11, 2017 05:37 PM (Ndje9)

149 GNAMM!

Bring your swim suit!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4435703/stag-do-brit-hoover-dam-swim-arrest/

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 05:37 PM (0wem/)

150 I can see either a robot or a computer program being set up with a bunch of conditional circumstance (if A, then B) where you could make a flow chart out of the case.

Not terribly difficult, IMHO.

Most of the law today is turned on its head, up is down, left is right, etc.

Could put an end to that.

Posted by: navybrat at September 11, 2017 05:38 PM (w7KSn)

151 Getting really tired of our Robed Supreme Beings

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 05:38 PM (ghofu)

152 the Brave browser is getting really close to solid usability.

I keep trying it out, but its 2 minute startup time just is obnoxious. I figured in a while it would get usable, and I'll be glad to bail on Chrome when I can.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:38 PM (39g3+)

153 Some socialite woman managed to engage Silent Cal at some party at the WH (or somewhere). She gushed, "Mr. President, I made a bet I could get you to say more than two words, tee hee!".

He replied, "You lose" and walked away.

...
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (8O3HH)

Wasn't that notorious lush and occasional writer Dorthy Parker?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:38 PM (xJa6I)

154 Some socialite woman managed to engage Silent Cal at some party at the WH (or somewhere). She gushed, "Mr. President, I made a bet I could get you to say more than two words, tee hee!".

He replied, "You lose" and walked away.

------

There's a story that Cal was given a tour of Longwood Gardens outside of Philadelphia, and while the guide was going on & on, pointing out everything on the tour, he said nothing. Finally, as the tour guide was pointing out a large tree, he broke his silence with one word: "Bananas."

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 05:38 PM (7HtZB)

155 Guess Kennedy decided to stick around. Or he was strongly persuaded to.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (ul9CR)

156 I'm all in on the Sonobi lynch mob

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (ghofu)

157 >>>Finally, as the tour guide was pointing out a large tree, he broke his silence with one word: "Bananas."

Indeed!
:::nods sagely, adjusts monocle:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (zuKIv)

158 Hey Morons! VIA emailed me asking about Timon Jr. and I realized that I hadn't updated the horde. Jr had neurosurgery on Thursday, it was very successful. He left the hospital on Saturday evening. The constipation and nausea are gone so now he has a few weeks sitting on his ass getting better before going back to school. Thanks for the thoughts and prayers all!

Posted by: Timon at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (NTM5E)

159 141 Don't forget me! Everybody forgets me!

Posted by: Zombie William McKinley - I Got Shot Too! at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (ul9CR)

I just picked up a book over the weekend about your assassination.

Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (7HtZB)

160 >>Fundamentally unserious country, no where more spectacularly or perniciously so than in the collapse of rule of law.
Posted by: rhomboid

I'm still furious that they announced they have no problem with Lois Lerner's behavior. I've got a new level of simmering anger that will not go away. It seems like even the few remaining inner Trump circle has no idea what a corrosive effect ignoring major scandals and felonies has on our Republic. Showing "compassion" for the plague infected lampreys that have sucked the life out of democracy (see Clinton, half the State Dept, the DoJ, IRS, FBI, ATF, etc) and lied over and over to the People while spitting in their faces gets you a Chavez or Pinochet.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at September 11, 2017 05:40 PM (Ircth)

161 Bring your swim suit!

nope

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at September 11, 2017 05:40 PM (vmsda)

162 just picked up a book over the weekend about your assassination.
Posted by: josephistan at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (7HtZB)

At least I got to see Niagara Falls first.

Posted by: Zombie William McKinley - I Got Shot Too! at September 11, 2017 05:40 PM (ul9CR)

163 Finally got rid of Sonobi by installing NoScript extension for my Opera browser.

It feels like clean sheet do. I suppose - but I wouldn't have any first hand experience on that.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 11, 2017 05:40 PM (tr2D7)

164 >>>>>Guess Kennedy decided to stick around. Or he was strongly persuaded to.

.
.
.Yep, someone got to him about his patriotic duty, etc, blah.......

Problem is, Ruth "Buzzy" Ginsburg. If Trump wins in 2020 (and I see no reason he should not) she ain't gonna make it much longer.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 11, 2017 05:40 PM (+Dllb)

165 @Timon

Great news!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:40 PM (xJa6I)

166 Some socialite woman managed to engage Silent Cal at some party at the WH (or somewhere). She gushed, "Mr. President, I made a bet I could get you to say more than two words, tee hee!".

He replied, "You lose" and walked away.

The story of him and Mrs. Coolidge at I think it was a chicken farm is a funny one.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:41 PM (493sH)

167 Conservatism in my opinion is mainly getting the government out of as many things as possible that are not required by the constitution.

That's how I judge a politician's conservatism.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 05:41 PM (D0r5+)

168 Wow, great to hear, Timon! Thanks for the update.

Posted by: no good deed at September 11, 2017 05:42 PM (eIQHF)

169
Silent Cal told somebody how he was even loathe to say "yes" or "no" during interviews. He said even that could wind them up for 20 minutes or more.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:42 PM (8O3HH)

170 Yes!

Posted by: Carol at September 11, 2017 05:42 PM (NKOy9)

171 Coolidge was actually a good public speaker. But he made it a point to prove that Americans don't need to be governed, that they can solve most problems on their own. A view he acquired in middle life, dealing with the first big Progressive wave in politics.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:42 PM (xJa6I)

172 If we loaded up an artificial intelligence with all of our laws, it would exterminate humanity.

If we loaded up an actual silicon-based intelligence with all of our laws, it commit fucking suicide.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2017 05:42 PM (D0riW)

173 >>> Problem is, Ruth "Buzzy" Ginsburg. If Trump wins in 2020 (and I see no reason he should not) she ain't gonna make it much longer.

No, she is eating kale and going to live forever.

Posted by: fluffy at September 11, 2017 05:42 PM (U0v/A)

174 Posted by: Timon at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (NTM5E)

Thanks for the update.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2017 05:43 PM (iVOAv)

175 Posted by: Timon at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (NTM5E)

Awesomely awesome.

Posted by: Jack Sock at September 11, 2017 05:43 PM (D0r5+)

176 >> Wasn't that notorious lush and occasional writer Dorthy Parker?

I don't think so. The woman was not identified by name in anything I can find about it.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:43 PM (8O3HH)

177 Bring your swim suit!

nope
Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at September

Well ok but skinny dipping seems even more dangerous.

Posted by: yankeefifth at September 11, 2017 05:43 PM (0wem/)

178 Jr had neurosurgery on Thursday, it was very successful. He left the hospital on Saturday evening. The constipation and nausea are gone so now he has a few weeks sitting on his ass getting better before going back to school.

Wonderful news, here's to his recovery.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (39g3+)

179 Well ok but skinny dipping seems even more dangerous.

living on the edge !!!

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (vmsda)

180 Problem is, Ruth "Buzzy" Ginsburg. If Trump wins in 2020 (and I see no reason he should not) she ain't gonna make it much longer.

No, she is eating kale and going to live forever.

Posted by: fluffy at September 11, 2017 05:42 PM (U0v/A)

They'll send her to Chelsea's home and resuscitation unit and she'll come back as good and robotic as the Beast

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (493sH)

181 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (8O3HH)

The more i read about Cal Coolidge, the more I like him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (iVOAv)

182 I smell Gelfing!

Posted by: Ruth Baader-Meinhof at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (QQ+il)

183 I SO live to see Trump name Cruz to the SCOTUS. To replace Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg in particular would be PRICELESS.

Don't know if Trump would do it, or if the suckers of cock in his own party would confirm Cruz, but I'd love to see it happen.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 11, 2017 05:45 PM (ul9CR)

184 >> I smell Gelfing!

Posted by: Ruth Baader-Meinhof at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (QQ+il)

This always cracks me up

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 05:45 PM (nM879)

185 Three questions I don't have any tidy answers for:

1) What precisely is conservatism?
2) What precisely is it that I believe?
3) Is (1) equal to (2)?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 05:45 PM (hcyUh)

186 No, she is eating kale and going to live forever.

It makes me giggle like a schoolboy watching hollywood types eating all this wierd stuff and doing trendy exercises and all that crap and just dying like ordinary people at the usual time. Like Red Foxx said: "you're gonna feel awful stupid lying in bed dying of nothing."

I actually read a report that said pop stars tend to die 25% sooner than ordinary people. Not hard to imagine why, either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:46 PM (39g3+)

187 The more i read about Cal Coolidge, the more I like him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (iVOAv)

Me too. He seems to have been a very decent and admirable man and really overlooked. It's too bad he didn't run in 1928. I wonder how he would have handled the market crash the following year.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:46 PM (493sH)

188 Yeah Coolidge is cool. We down.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 11, 2017 05:47 PM (ul9CR)

189 I am an extreme Federalist even more than a Conservative or Libertarian. I am less concerned about the power of a political entity than I am about it's reach.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:47 PM (QQ+il)

190 181 Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:35 PM (8O3HH)

The more i read about Cal Coolidge, the more I like him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2017 05:44 PM (iVOAv)

Yeah, he was a good guy. Amity Shales has a good bio of him, but it's bit too glowing. Lots of good secondary sources on him, if you have reading time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:48 PM (xJa6I)

191 And this is Grace Coolidge clamored up, but I do think she was avery smart and good woman, and it's a pleasure to read about a first couple that seems to be genuinely in love as opposed to some recent Democrat Presidents we've had:

http://tinyurl.com/y6vgs9ba

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2017 05:48 PM (iVOAv)

192 I wonder how he would have handled the market crash the following year.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:46 PM (493sH)

If you're going to play the counter-factual game, I would reply, "what market crash?".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 05:48 PM (hcyUh)

193
Apropos of nothing, the Brave browser is getting really close to solid usability.
--

I'm on Pale Moon, which I hear is a bit more secure than Brave. Pale Moon is highly functional, and more stable than Firefox

Posted by: shibumi at September 11, 2017 05:49 PM (aT+Bx)

194 Hoover seems like a good guy too, but he gets a horrendously bad rap for the economy crashing and some shenanigans in his administration. Hoover was a super rich guy who had done pretty much all he'd wanted in life and decided his nation needed someone to serve and straighten a few things out.

He's not famous for it but ought to be: Hoover in WWI found out that hundreds of thousands of people in Belgium were starving because of the German occupation and the blockade on the nation. So he got together millions of dollars of food and personally at great risk got them delivered to people, literally saving a generation's life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:49 PM (39g3+)

195 Getting really tired of our Robed Supreme Beings

Posted by: Skip

Where's Newt? IIRC he was really speaking forcefully on the need for judicial reform in 2012.

It's clear the leftists have undermined the Founding Fathers' intent (lifetime appointments means they are immune from political influence).

The left has turned that into, lifetime appointments means you have a political activist on the bench for life.

It's an oversight and it needs to be corrected.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 05:50 PM (/qEW2)

196 Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 11, 2017 05:46 PM (493sH)

I think the death of their son was just much. So sad that if they had antibiotics back them he probably would have lived and cal might have run again. And yes, Amity Shales' book is quite glowing but since that's the first substantive thing I read about him, I'm biased. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2017 05:50 PM (iVOAv)

197 Whoa, Fat! has been worryingly quiet for the past 10 days or so. He wouldn't choose to do something TODAY of all days, wold he?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 11, 2017 05:50 PM (7uYFy)

198 189 I am an extreme Federalist even more than a Conservative or Libertarian. I am less concerned about the power of a political entity than I am about it's reach.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:47 PM (QQ+il)

So not just the "Power" to coerce our behavior and directly take our stuff, but also the "power" to just generally eff things up for everybody by their incompetence?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 05:50 PM (hcyUh)

199 The PJ Media articles are starting to cheese me off. Lots of weak sisters posting articles there now. Seems like most of the Conservatives are gone and what's left is thin gruel.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:51 PM (xJa6I)

200 Thanks for the thoughts and prayers all!
Posted by: Timon at September 11, 2017 05:39 PM (NTM5E)

Great news.

Posted by: golfman at September 11, 2017 05:51 PM (48QDY)

201 I'm an economic conservative, social issues center-left, and a "have such an overwhelming military nobody'll fvck with us and if they do we fight to win and get the hell out after" on foreign policy.

So...I don't know. I'm some kind of conservative-ish, I know that. Libertarianish-Conservative-ish.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 11, 2017 05:52 PM (ul9CR)

202 "I can see Sotomayor getting pointy ear implants and eyebrow surgery and claiming to be a wise Vulcana"

Kirstie Alley has played a Vulcan before on film, and she and SoSo are now of comparable girth. So the movie version is nailed down.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 11, 2017 05:52 PM (ujwCG)

203 I tried to read a bio about Coolidge but it was 9000 pages long. I swear the author looked at every single day of Cal's life and most of it was... not worth looking over.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:52 PM (39g3+)

204 If you need a new car go see Cal, go see Cal go see Cal go see Cal. And here's my dog Spot.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 11, 2017 05:53 PM (6Ll1u)

205 I wonder how he would have handled the market crash the following year.

Probably like the Panic of 1907. Although there was no Federal Reserve then to make things worse.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:53 PM (QQ+il)

206 Hoover definitely gets a horrible rap.

It wasn't till I was in my forties that I finally read some honest reassessments of his administration and learned "the rest of the story."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at September 11, 2017 05:53 PM (ul9CR)

207 Has the 15 foot storm surge washed across Florida yet?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 05:53 PM (w1zJX)

208 judges that decide they don't really care for parts of the constitution need to be impeached.

and this just in, the Equifax breach was major ... this guy says it looks like the head of security if a music major. But a white woman, not a nazi white male, so we got that going for us.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/09/equifax-you-had-one-job.html

it was a LinkedIn source, and it is deleted now ... too late.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 11, 2017 05:53 PM (yKAUL)

209 The law is dead. Long live the whims of our robed masters.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at September 11, 2017 05:53 PM (J70i0)

210 what i think we should do to federal judges would get me banned here, and most countries in the free world.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2017 05:54 PM (KP5rU)

211 So not just the "Power" to coerce our behavior and directly take our stuff, but also the "power" to just generally eff things up for everybody by their incompetence?

I just want to be able to reasonably move to somewhere closer to my own view of society.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:55 PM (QQ+il)

212 Kirstie Alley has played a Vulcan before on film, and she and SoSo are now of comparable girth.

Yeah but Kirstie is still cute and fun, and not a stupid leftist apparatchik. Fat, thin, I still like her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 05:55 PM (39g3+)

213 Hoover wasn't a bad guy but he did make some bad decisions in monetary policy that made the Depression worse. But he's nothing compared to the disaster artist that was FDR.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:55 PM (xJa6I)

214 Sonobi is not who we are!

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 05:56 PM (QC/4S)

215 Go see Cal on the value of perseverance. Should be part of The Speech (Hub's Speech) given to any young man (or woman).

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 11, 2017 05:56 PM (JO9+V)

216
Hoover was actually a pretty big government type. He started a lot of programs, and was a big believer in govt intervention in markets. Read up on him.

Under Harding, they called him the Secretary of Commerce and under Secretary of everything else.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 05:56 PM (8O3HH)

217 Trivia Fact: Herbert Hoover was the very first student at Stanford, by virtue of having been the first person in the first class to sleep in the dormitory.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 11, 2017 05:56 PM (QQ+il)

218 Christopher- 9000 pages? Hardly a years worth

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 05:56 PM (ghofu)

219 OT: Windows 10 apparently as a bunch of installed games. One is called 'Bubble Witch Saga 3'. She's kind of a hot piece.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:57 PM (xJa6I)

220 Ace: "I have no idea how the hell they came up that special "some non-government group says it's okay so that overrides the US government's decision" doctrine."

Yeah, I wondered about that, too. 'Anybody with a relationship to a refugee charity is exempt'. While the Ninth Circuit just pulled this standard out of their asses, it shows the danger of letting NGOs set policy, as in the "voluntary" Paris Accords. Some paper-thin potentate will take it as precedent. Same with cocktail napkin-"law" called DACA.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 11, 2017 05:57 PM (Ndje9)

221 Yeah per the sidebar story about the chalk message,the college admin that ordered the 9/11 memorial remived is apparently a muslim.

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 05:58 PM (rmVvL)

222 what i think we should do to federal judges would get me banned here, and most countries in the free world.

Posted by: chavez the hugo

Me too. I think they are traitors, unaccountable scum. They are insulated from the consequences of their misdeeds. They can pronounce arbitrary, evil crap and it has the force of law, as long as their summaries have the appropriate jargon. I ... uh, feel the same as you do.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 05:59 PM (/qEW2)

223 Hoover ,far from doing nothing which the Democrats accused him of,put a bunch of policies in place that FDR continued.If Hoover had actually done nothing the great depression would have never been "great".

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 06:00 PM (rmVvL)

224 Remember the Michael Douglas flick "Star Chamber" a couple decades ago? That's the Ninth Circus, but with slightly different facts, and equally bad acting.

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:00 PM (/z8es)

225 221: why of course it is.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2017 06:00 PM (KP5rU)

226 He left the hospital on Saturday evening. The constipation and nausea are gone so now he has a few weeks sitting on his ass getting better before going back to school. Thanks for the thoughts and prayers all!
Posted by: Timon
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Very good news indeed. Amid all of the bad stuff, it's very good to have an upbeat note, and to be reminded that life is fragile and precious.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 06:00 PM (w1zJX)

227 >>OT: Windows 10 apparently as a bunch of installed games

Well I'll be -- those are in those infernal "apps" (Metro programs) that I despise and have nothing to do with. I run classic shell on it.

I broke down and installed it to a partition when I learned about the Linux subsystem, Bash on Windows, and dammit, have been running it mostly since. But I run Classic Shell and keep the Metro shit as hidden as possible, not to mention making sure to opt out of the data collection as much as possible.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:01 PM (8O3HH)

228 Where does the Constitution spell out that anyone at all has a right to immigrate. It mumbled something about the year 1808. That was a while back.
This crowd is pretty smart, someone might know.
BTW, Mexico is invading the United States. That much is obvious. The Mexican Government is committed to Reconquista.

Posted by: klaftern at September 11, 2017 06:01 PM (RuIsu)

229 221 Yeah per the sidebar story about the chalk message,the college admin that ordered the 9/11 memorial remived is apparently a muslim.
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 05:58 PM (rmVvL)

Tar. Feathers.

Wait, no. Scratch that....

Lard. Dog hair.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 06:02 PM (hcyUh)

230 I've got a new level of simmering anger that will not go away.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at September 11, 2017 05:40 PM
~~~~~

I'm right where you are, Hopped Up. Frustrating as hell, and I just don't understand what the hell is going on.

My own tin foil hat reasoning says that perhaps because the corruption and criminality is so pervasive and includes all the highest offices (including the past president) as well as nearly everyone in both houses of congress, the fear is that exposing it will cause a total collapse of the government and possibly armed rebellion.

Crazy, I know. But I'm serious. That's all I can come up with.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 11, 2017 06:02 PM (HiDrR)

231 Has the 15 foot storm surge washed across Florida yet?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 05:53 PM (w1zJX)

*squirt*

Posted by: what's left of Irma at September 11, 2017 06:02 PM (HgMAr)

232 Sonobi delenda est!

Posted by: Cato the Elder at September 11, 2017 06:02 PM (QC/4S)

233 227 >>OT: Windows 10 apparently as a bunch of installed games

Well I'll be -- those are in those infernal "apps" (Metro programs) that I despise and have nothing to do with. I run classic shell on it.

I broke down and installed it to a partition when I learned about the Linux subsystem, Bash on Windows, and dammit, have been running it mostly since. But I run Classic Shell and keep the Metro shit as hidden as possible, not to mention making sure to opt out of the data collection as much as possible.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:01 PM (8O3HH)

Yeah, I miss Win 7, but new work laptop is new. Just surprised it had games on it. I'm old enough that work laptops used to have the Solitaire app removed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:02 PM (xJa6I)

234 Herding

Posted by: gNewt at September 11, 2017 06:03 PM (VquEu)

235 Side bar 9/11 tribute
No chalk allowed eh? Next time spray paint

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 06:03 PM (ghofu)

236 "Today it was good to have a president at the 9-11 memorial who loves the country as opposed to one who openly hated it and sided with the people who were responsible for the attacks"

All that for a flag? Harumph!

Posted by: Moochelle Obama at September 11, 2017 06:03 PM (398bZ)

237 those that can't do shit, judge. fucking pond scum, the lot of em.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 11, 2017 06:04 PM (KP5rU)

238 "Has the 15 foot storm surge washed across Florida yet? "

Florida is now an island!

Posted by: Sonobi Juan Canobi at September 11, 2017 06:04 PM (jEC5W)

239 I'm right where you are, Hopped Up. Frustrating as hell, and I just don't understand what the hell is going on.

The thing is, that rage that was building up before November of last year? It paused a bit, but its building up even further now. People are going around on a slow burn of fury inside. I do not think the left has the slightest clue how close they are to setting this all off.

You see it through history, every so often the people just go crazy after putting up with decades, even centuries of abuse. Something just snaps and you get Causescu torn literally to pieces.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 06:05 PM (39g3+)

240 Hoover ,far from doing nothing which the Democrats
accused him of,put a bunch of policies in place that FDR continued.If
Hoover had actually done nothing the great depression would have never
been "great". Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 06:00 PM (rmVvL)
=====

Another great man with another great flaw: he was the great engineer.

Sad, because he was a good and kind man who truly wanted the best for his country.

Sad, because FDR really wasn't that sure of his country.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2017 06:05 PM (MIKMs)

241
Florida is now an island!
Posted by: Sonobi Juan Canobi
------------

The NIC Winner du Jour

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (w1zJX)

242 Why do we continue to allow Mexico's best and brightest to be illegally removed from their country. Often times not even with their consent?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (PS3ox)

243 I am still running Win 7 on my work laptop and game PC. I don't know how much longer I'll be able to hold out but it works fine so far.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (39g3+)

244 199
The PJ Media articles are starting to cheese me off. Lots of weak
sisters posting articles there now. Posted by Mark Edward Andrews
* * * * * * *

I've noticed similar left swinging at both American Thinker and American Spectator sites over the last 8-12 months. I'm no ideological purist but some of the garbage coming thru on those are downright illogical and devoid of fact in support of left-leaning opinions.

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (/z8es)

245 OT: Let me see if I've got this straight. Bill Maher thinks that only people who pay into the system with taxes should benefit from government assistance. I didn't think that was how socialism "worked."

Posted by: Aunt Luna's phone at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (Eabwd)

246 Skip:

Do you also comment at Moe Lane's place?

If so:

/golf clap on the tea post

Posted by: ibguy at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (vUcdz)

247 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (KCxzN)

248 Hey Alton

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:07 PM (xJa6I)

249 Hey Alton -- when's the next MichiMoMee?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 11, 2017 06:07 PM (qJtVm)

250
Florida is now surrounded on three sides with water! Stay tuned!

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 11, 2017 06:08 PM (EgwCt)

251 "Director of Facilities Maintenance"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/275299/

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 06:08 PM (rmVvL)

252 I am still running Win 7 on my work laptop and game
PC. I don't know how much longer I'll be able to hold out but it works
fine so far.

Posted by Christopher R Taylor

* * * * * *

For those of us who refuse to install "apps" and strange basic system functionality (Win 8, 8.1, 10, et al) on our desktops cpu's, what other options do we have?

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:08 PM (/z8es)

253 >> Yeah, I miss Win 7

WOuld you believe my main OS before now was XP x64? I had a Win7 Ultimate x64 set up with everything installed finally, but I never ran it much, stubbornly sticking with XP. I had installed Win 8(.1) to play, hated the Metro shit, and hadn't even bothered with Win 10.

But then I read about Bash on Windows, native binary layer in the kernel they put it to run native Linux ELF64 binaries, and that prompted me to install it. I found out the "free upgrade" still worked, using the Creator's Update, even though it had officially expired. It installed with the Win 8.1 key.

THe fall update is going to include improvements to Bash (WSL). They're going to have Fedora distributions to run under it as well as Ubuntu.

And then of course, I run several Linux virtual machines under Virtualbox too all the time. Fedora and Ubuntu.

I was playing around with SSH on WSL interacting with the VM's running real Linux and having all sorts of fun.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:08 PM (8O3HH)

254 Maybe Trump has realized that if you truly were to "Drain the Swamp", there'd be literally nothing left.

Instead of just firing a few assholes, "Drain the Swamp" amounts to a full and total upheaval of the federal government across all branches, because it's actually all Swamp, all the way down.

In other words, a literal Coup d'Etat.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 06:09 PM (hcyUh)

255 243 I am still running Win 7 on my work laptop and game PC. I don't know how much longer I'll be able to hold out but it works fine so far.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 06:06 PM (39g3+)
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Me too Christopher. It's almost a point of pride. If not for their constant harangue to update to Windows 10, I might have done it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 11, 2017 06:09 PM (qJtVm)

256 OT: Let me see if I've got this straight. Bill Maher thinks that only people who pay into the system with taxes should benefit from government assistance.

Gonna hurt a lot of Dems/FSA & illegals then.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 11, 2017 06:10 PM (LkzOc)

257 Bill Maher thinks that only people who pay into the system with taxes should benefit from government assistance.

If that were the case, then the 47% of the country that pay no net federal taxes would get no benefits. Yet that is where all the money goes. And to the politically well connected.

Posted by: Old Blue at September 11, 2017 06:10 PM (gEvQ8)

258 I read Moe often but never commented

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 06:11 PM (ghofu)

259 253 >> Yeah, I miss Win 7

WOuld you believe my main OS before now was XP x64? I had a Win7 Ultimate x64 set up with everything installed finally, but I never ran it much, stubbornly sticking with XP. I had installed Win 8(.1) to play, hated the Metro shit, and hadn't even bothered with Win 10.

But then I read about Bash on Windows, native binary layer in the kernel they put it to run native Linux ELF64 binaries, and that prompted me to install it. I found out the "free upgrade" still worked, using the Creator's Update, even though it had officially expired. It installed with the Win 8.1 key.

THe fall update is going to include improvements to Bash (WSL). They're going to have Fedora distributions to run under it as well as Ubuntu.

And then of course, I run several Linux virtual machines under Virtualbox too all the time. Fedora and Ubuntu.

I was playing around with SSH on WSL interacting with the VM's running real Linux and having all sorts of fun.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:08 PM (8O3HH)

I loved Win XP 64. Great stability, small memory footprint. I still have some install disks and some old laptops to run it on.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:11 PM (xJa6I)

260 For relaxing times, make it Sonobi time.

Posted by: Bob Harris at September 11, 2017 06:11 PM (7lKeD)

261 You see it through history, every so often the people just go crazy after putting up with decades, even centuries of abuse. Something just snaps and you get Causescu torn literally to pieces.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
--------------

List of English rebellions: http://tinyurl.com/y9kee3f4

As an aside, one of my ancients participated in the Monmouth Rebellion. They lost. On the upside, my relative was shipped to Barbados as a bond slave, instead of being hung as hundreds of others were.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 06:11 PM (w1zJX)

262 >> For those of us who refuse to install "apps" and strange basic system functionality (Win 8, 8.1, 10, et al) on our desktops cpu's, what other options do we have?

-------------------

Oh, it still runs Win32 desktop apps. Hell, on the 32-bit versions, the 16-bit Windows and DOS VDMs are still there.

They 16-bit subsystem and NTVDM are not there in the 64-bit versions (limitation of 64-bit mode -- no 16-bit V86 mode available). But Virtualbox to run a 32-bit version will solve that.

I've got a 32-bit XP and Win7 VM I built up for that purpose which I can run when needed.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:12 PM (8O3HH)

263 Florida is now an island!

Posted by: Sonobi Juan Canobi at September 11, 2017 06:04 PM (jEC5W)
............

I fear it may tip over!

Posted by: wth at September 11, 2017 06:12 PM (HgMAr)

264 I liked Windows xp quite a bit, it worked really well. It just needed some stability tweaks and updating to more up to date technology and options and it still would work fine. But hey, nobody gets rich by keeping an old operating system running, gotta put out the new ones.

Microsoft is following through on its "all cloud" model of business and they can burn in hell for it. I will go back to a typewriter before I rent programs perpetually and store all my work on their servers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 06:12 PM (39g3+)

265 Once the black robed tyrants got away with making law that homos could be married, there was nor will there be any stopping them without violence.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 11, 2017 06:12 PM (7kLRC)

266 >>Yeah per the sidebar story about the chalk message,the college admin
that ordered the 9/11 memorial remived is apparently a muslim.

Facilities Director --- and also president of Islamic Center of Cleveland.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 11, 2017 06:12 PM (W+vEI)

267 I am still running Win 7 on my work laptop and game PC. I don't know
how much longer I'll be able to hold out but it works fine so far.
---

Yep. Desktop/laptop both on Windows 7, don't plan on changing.

Posted by: shibumi at September 11, 2017 06:13 PM (aT+Bx)

268 Grumpy928 @ 189- Extreme Federalist----
My friend, you have converted me to Federalism at the ripe old age of 68.

Posted by: Eromero at September 11, 2017 06:13 PM (zLDYs)

269 "Has the 15 foot storm surge washed across Florida yet? "

Florida is now an island!

Posted by: Sonobi Juan Canobi at September 11, 2017 06:04 PM (jEC5W)

The United States got it's dick chopped off?

Posted by: X-ray at September 11, 2017 06:13 PM (vzgzF)

270 264 I liked Windows xp quite a bit, it worked really well. It just needed some stability tweaks and updating to more up to date technology and options and it still would work fine. But hey, nobody gets rich by keeping an old operating system running, gotta put out the new ones.

Microsoft is following through on its "all cloud" model of business and they can burn in hell for it. I will go back to a typewriter before I rent programs perpetually and store all my work on their servers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 06:12 PM (39g3+)

You can still buy full Office on CD but they don't make it easy. Frankly, I still use office 2003. Heck Office 97 did everything I needed it to do...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:13 PM (xJa6I)

271 But Office holds the whip hand here at MSFT. It makes them a lot of money, every year.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:14 PM (xJa6I)

272 ......I was playing around with SSH on WSL interacting with the VM's running real Linux and having all sorts of fun.

Posted by: publius

* * * * *

[WTF??? * * * * * Brow furrows........Hangs head and slowly walks out of room. Sh-t is just WAY outta my league. Shouldn't have made fun of all the cpu engineering majors in college back in '97 and got woke....]

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:14 PM (/z8es)

273 I'll put my local KTLA 5 Courtney Friel up against any correspondent you have, *wipes brow* and tries to remember anything beyond my bunk.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 11, 2017 06:14 PM (6Ll1u)

274 The Coupe d'Etat was a rare trim option on the '68 Pontiac Bonneville.

Posted by: automobile facts at September 11, 2017 06:14 PM (gdXZN)

275 "Has the 15 foot storm surge washed across Florida yet? "
..............

Yep and now the place is littered with Cubans.

Posted by: wth at September 11, 2017 06:15 PM (HgMAr)

276 269. Yes, the initial trans-gender 'adjustment'.

Posted by: socalcon at September 11, 2017 06:15 PM (Roy2Z)

277 ... when's the next MichiMoMee?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

ha! the next one would be the first

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 11, 2017 06:15 PM (KCxzN)

278
I was going to have to move to at least the Win 7 install anyway, because they stopped updating Firefox and Chrome for XP. Web shit was slowly stopping to work as they started using new features, and it was getting to be too much of a problem.

And then I got this Win10 x64 up and running, and got all my programs installed (most everything, including my very old MS Office installed -- took a little tweaking on some, but I got it going) and here I am.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:15 PM (8O3HH)

279 Sonobitch

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 06:15 PM (ghofu)

280 >> The Coupe d'Etat was a rare trim option on the '68 Pontiac Bonneville.

It was the only way to get the Sonobi interior, though.

Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2017 06:15 PM (nM879)

281 219
OT: Windows 10 apparently as a bunch of installed games. One is called 'Bubble Witch Saga 3'. She's kind of a hot piece.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:57 PM (xJa6I)

That game is not on Windows 10 and it is an "on-line" game you can play supposedly for free. You can download the app to log onto it free as well.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:16 PM (mpXpK)

282 Yep and now the place is littered with Cubans.

Posted by: wth at September 11, 2017 06:15 PM (HgMAr)

Am I a bad person because I laughed at that?

Posted by: Old Blue at September 11, 2017 06:16 PM (gEvQ8)

283 Arrrrrrr! There be whitecaps a plenty in Miami. Arrrrrr, whitecaps racisis?

Posted by: Long John Silver at September 11, 2017 06:17 PM (gbWkA)

284 Just wondering.

Posted by: teej at September 11, 2017 06:17 PM (XlF/h)

285 Its evil of me but I am praying Winter Park was wiped out

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 06:18 PM (ghofu)

286 Shouldn't have made fun of all the cpu engineering majors in college back in '97 and got woke
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My mistake was pointing at Win 95 and laughing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 06:18 PM (w1zJX)

287
While everybody was talking about Coolidge, I wanted to mention the beautiful portrait of Grace Coolidge in a red dress with a white dog. Stunning.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 11, 2017 06:19 PM (MIKMs)

288 281 219
OT: Windows 10 apparently as a bunch of installed games. One is called 'Bubble Witch Saga 3'. She's kind of a hot piece.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:57 PM (xJa6I)

That game is not on Windows 10 and it is an "on-line" game you can play supposedly for free. You can download the app to log onto it free as well.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:16 PM (mpXpK)

Hm. Interesting. Shows up in my start menu when I hit the window key. Seems to be an app but maybe it's running in a discrete Edge browser...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:19 PM (xJa6I)

289 Arrrrrrr! There be whitecaps a plenty in Miami. Arrrrrr, whitecaps racisis?
Posted by: Long John Silver
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White caplash.

Posted by: Van Jones, CPUSA at September 11, 2017 06:19 PM (w1zJX)

290 you see, every country has a different ethnic composition and therefore any immigration law discriminates against folks who are differently composed than the current *spit* group of folks who happen to be here. That fall afoul of the 14th amendment and therefore no immigration law is constitutional and thus, that is how america is a nation of immigrants we have yet to import, not the *yuck* folks who were already here.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 06:20 PM (DQdye)

291 Maybe someone should point out to that piece of shit Maher that Houston went 54% to Hillary.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 06:21 PM (gG97F)

292 SSH = Secure Shell. It's a standard Linux command line tool for remote connection to remote machines. Gives you a secure command line on a remote machine.

WSL = Windows Subsystem for Linux. A Windows kernel clone of the Linux environment, letting one run true Linux binaries. Command line only, so far. They may get X shit working.

Many of the Linux people are worried that WSL is MS's sneaky attempt to take over Linux.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:21 PM (8O3HH)

293 Heck Office 97 did everything I needed it to do...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Pfft. MS Works. No kidding, it's what I use.

Posted by: Van Jones, CPUSA at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (w1zJX)

294 I mean, the founding fathers envisioned a country that could be strong or whatnot for their posterity, which I take to mean "giving H1B jobs to anyone but their own kids".

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (DQdye)

295 Tried Win 10 on a new 64 bit Dell system from Best Buy. I run several custom-ish, non-standard document sorting and imaging programs (legal work) and anything that found that anything non-mainstream wouldn't operate fully if at all. To Best Buy's credit, they gave me Win 7 without too much kicking and screaming. Has Win 10 addressed any of those obvious problems over the last few years or so?

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (/z8es)

296 I wanted to mention the beautiful portrait of Grace Coolidge in a red dress with a white dog. Stunning.

There is more than one way to stun people.

Posted by: the decrepit transvestite from the morning "art" thread at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (gdXZN)

297 Is it wrong that I am secretly delighted that the middle syllable of the name of the prophet of islam is one of the less tasty portions of the flesh of the pig. Bacon's too good for him.

Posted by: Downcast at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (xDnRq)

298 288 281 219
OT: Windows 10 apparently as a bunch of installed games. One is called 'Bubble Witch Saga 3'. She's kind of a hot piece.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 05:57 PM (xJa6I)

That game is not on Windows 10 and it is an "on-line" game you can play supposedly for free. You can download the app to log onto it free as well.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:16 PM (mpXpK)

Hm. Interesting. Shows up in my start menu when I hit the window key. Seems to be an app but maybe it's running in a discrete Edge browser...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:19 PM (xJa6I)

Do you have kids who might have installed the games from the windows store? For instance you don't even have minesweeper on Windows 10 and have to download it.

Or is this a store bought computer that could potentially have a bunch of those things pre-installed. When my brother bought a Dell at Wal-mart it came with a bunch of stuff like that.

Posted by: buzzion at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (z/Ubi)

299 288 Hm. Interesting. Shows up in my start menu when I
hit the window key. Seems to be an app but maybe it's running in a
discrete Edge browser...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:19 PM (xJa6I)

Its not no my start menu.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (mpXpK)

300 291 Maybe someone should point out to that piece of shit Maher that Houston went 54% to Hillary.

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well, since she should have won by 50 points, that means that Houston is ...ummmm math... uh 96% at fault for the hurricane?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 06:23 PM (DQdye)

301 186 Like Red Foxx said: "you're gonna feel awful stupid lying in bed dying of nothing."

don't forget: Euell Gibbons died of natural causes.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 11, 2017 06:23 PM (sGtp+)

302 266 >>Yeah per the sidebar story about the chalk message,the college admin
that ordered the 9/11 memorial remived is apparently a muslim.

Facilities Director --- and also president of Islamic Center of Cleveland.

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see...? just like us. fitting in flawlessly.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 06:24 PM (DQdye)

303 >>On the upside, my relative was shipped to Barbados as a bond slave, instead of being hung as hundreds of others were.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Bond, Slave Bond. Shaken not interred.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at September 11, 2017 06:24 PM (Ircth)

304 299 288 Hm. Interesting. Shows up in my start menu when I
hit the window key. Seems to be an app but maybe it's running in a
discrete Edge browser...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:19 PM (xJa6I)

Its not no my start menu.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:22 PM (mpXpK)

Well then my staffing agency has a very odd desktop image it chose to supply to me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:24 PM (xJa6I)

305 SSH = Secure Shell. It's a standard Linux command
line tool for remote connection to remote machines. Gives you a secure
command line on a remote machine.

WSL = Windows Subsystem for Linux. A Windows kernel clone of the
Linux environment, letting one run true Linux binaries. Command line
only, so far. They may get X shit working.

Many of the Linux people are worried that WSL is MS's sneaky attempt to take over Linux.

Posted by: publius

* * * * * *

I'll just assume at this point that you're toying with my mind the way an alligator rolls and drowns its prey.

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:24 PM (/z8es)

306 133 Ok, I finally broke down and clicked the Sonobi ad. Just a bunch of social media selling bullshit.

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Many Thanks for the click!
We shall redouble our efforts now.

Posted by: Sonobi Sales and Marketing at September 11, 2017 06:25 PM (4g2ZO)

307 I have no idea how the hell they came up that special "some non-government group says it's okay so that overrides the US government's decision" doctrine.

I am just a dumb brain engineer not some smart law taliking guy, so things like this simply amaze me. I know they make you take logic courses in pre-law. So how do you get to just make shit up?

The law is pretty clear on refugees. The law does not state that the US HAS to take one single refugee. If you find otherwise, you are just making shit up.

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2017 06:25 PM (jHrzU)

308 My old version of Microsoft Office for XP would not run on Windows 10. I looked at the new version and they wanted $200 for it as a download. I am now running Open Office for free.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:25 PM (mpXpK)

309 @buzzion

It's a work laptop provided by my staffing agency. Might be used...but it should have a new image installed before they gave it to me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:25 PM (xJa6I)

310 Florida is now an island!

Posted by: Sonobi Juan Canobi at September 11, 2017 06:04 PM (jEC5W)

The United States got it's dick chopped off?

Posted by: X-ray

"No man is an island! No man is an island! He's a peninsula! Haahaa!"

That is from some Jefferson Airplane song from the album "After Bathing at Baxter's".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 11, 2017 06:25 PM (/qEW2)

311 Only this guy could get hurt while...announcing.

http://tinyurl.com/ybzrz58o

Posted by: tu3031 at September 11, 2017 06:26 PM (O5Q3r)

312 When the hurricane stories die, what will the MSM talk about next?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 11, 2017 06:26 PM (6Ll1u)

313 Friday on the History channel- Two Degrees : The Point of No Return
We are nearing thd tipping point of rising temperatures will have on the country and planet.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 06:27 PM (ghofu)

314 RICO RICO RICO

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2017 06:27 PM (89T5c)

315 Only this guy could get hurt while...announcing.

* * * * *

That's what Romo gets for making out with Jim Nance during the commercials.

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:27 PM (/z8es)

316 @MSTisdale

I'm going to guess....no, it hasn't. Comparability problems are still a thing in Win 10. I'm censoring myself but...there are still issues.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (xJa6I)

317 Many of the Linux people are worried that WSL is MS's sneaky attempt to take over Linux.

We used to run a SCO Unix that had as one of its boot up screens a licensing page for Xenix. Which was Microsoft Linux. It was weird had a whole ASCII Microsoft logo.

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (jHrzU)

318 312 - Back to White supremacists I guess

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (ghofu)

319 When the hurricane stories die, what will the MSM talk about next?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
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The glories of Hillz scam book tour?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (w1zJX)

320 When the hurricane stories die, what will the MSM talk about next?

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Russia Russia Russia

Posted by: Cato the Elder at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (QC/4S)

321 My windows 10 has two games on it. The old standard Windows Solitaire games and a game called Minecraft for Windows 10.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (mpXpK)

322 We needs to change SCOTUS to SCROTUMS.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (5VlCp)

323

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 06:29 PM (QC/4S)

324 The glories of Hillz scam book tour?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 06:28 PM (w1zJX)

How to Lose Elections and Irritate People

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 11, 2017 06:29 PM (hcyUh)

325 308 My old version of Microsoft Office for XP would not run on Windows 10. I looked at the new version and they wanted $200 for it as a download. I am now running Open Office for free.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:25 PM (mpXpK)

I have my parents on Open Office. It's not bad.

Office.com should have a compatible version of office for your Win 10 machine. If your product key is registered, you should be able to download from there without paying extra.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:29 PM (xJa6I)

326 My old version of Microsoft Office for XP would not run on Windows 10. I looked at the new version and they wanted $200 for it as a download. I am now running Open Office for free.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:25 PM (mpXpK)
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MicroSoft always working to get its grubby little digits into our computers.

Posted by: gNewt at September 11, 2017 06:30 PM (VquEu)

327 313 Yeah,they keep pushing back the date of impending doom as we are all. Still here and no coastal city has been submerged yet....

Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2017 06:31 PM (rmVvL)

328 Or you can get Office 365 for $5 a month. Including email.

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2017 06:31 PM (jHrzU)

329 328 Or you can get Office 365 for $5 a month. Including email.
Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2017 06:31 PM (jHrzU)

Eh. I like to 'own' software, not rent it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:32 PM (xJa6I)

330 My SCROTUMS stuck in the wheels of my chair.

Posted by: Steven Breyer, useless judicial asswipe at September 11, 2017 06:32 PM (89T5c)

331 The annoying Sonobi ad that blots out text was paid for by Sonobi's competitors.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 11, 2017 06:32 PM (b5+BL)

332 I have no idea how the hell they came up that special "some non-government group says it's okay so that overrides the US government's decision" doctrine.

***

I dunno, what if we held elections where a worse than hitler guy ran who promised to close the borders and shit?

If he got elected, maybe that would serve to direct the policies of the country.

And then maybe my foundation, the "Sorry, we're full, get the fuck out Association of America (SWFGTFOAA)" could get to make these determinations instead of these idiots.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at September 11, 2017 06:32 PM (DQdye)

333 311
Only this guy could get hurt while...announcing.

Speaking of which, yesterday on teh Twatter, there was a vid of some woman newsie reporting on the hurricane (sorry, don't know where) that got whacked by a flying stop sign. I hope she wasn't badly hurt, but it was epic!

Posted by: Old Blue at September 11, 2017 06:32 PM (gEvQ8)

334 Coolidge mocked Hoover, called him "Wonder Boy" behind his back.

Coolidge had a bad ticker, and was not going to run for re-election in 1928, because he knew he was ill.

I think he died before 1932 from a heart attack.

Hoover was indeed a very bright man, but was certainly a big government guy. Made a lot of bad mistakes, including embracing the Smoot Hawley tariff, which actually worked against America's interests, and went a long way to prevent an actual recovery. And the calling in of bank loans by American banks went a long way to contributing to a German economic collapse, and ushering in Hitler and his political party, the NADSP.

Hoover and Joe Kennedy Sr. were also very good friends.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 06:33 PM (vcOmj)

335 Something just snaps and you get Causescu torn literally to pieces.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I thought they literally shot him up against the wall. They shot his wife as well.

Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at September 11, 2017 06:33 PM (AoK0a)

336 Or you can get Office 365 for $5 a month. Including email.

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It's roughly how much you pay for a 1 y subscription key

Posted by: runner at September 11, 2017 06:33 PM (QC/4S)

337 335. And kept shooting & shooting & shooting.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 11, 2017 06:34 PM (fA1SL)

338 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 11, 2017 06:35 PM (mpXpK)

339 I thought they literally shot him up against the wall. They shot his wife as well.
Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic

Well, for starters.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 06:35 PM (vcOmj)

340
I installed Office XP under Win 10 x64 fine. There was a problem with the "activation", but that can be solved by copying a file from a pervious activated installation (on the same computer, of course -- it's hardware signature somehow).

Look up the history of Xenix. That was MS's version of Unix System V. They licensed it from ATandT back in '78. They figured UNIX would be the PC OS of choice once they got powerful enough.

They abandoned it later, and sold it to SCO.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:35 PM (8O3HH)

341 Rumor has it that the Wise Latina will consult the spirits on this important question through the practice of Santeria, which is one of the many ways that a cultural non-WASP person may bring his, her or xer unique and special non-American insights to bear on the proper interpretation of the U.S. Constitution.

Or maybe she'll use Sangria. I always get those two mixed up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 11, 2017 06:35 PM (Mouru)

342 @ Bossy Conservative....deplorable American

Very true. Good comment, you got some serious Corgi credits coming to you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at September 11, 2017 06:36 PM (xJa6I)

343 Few words annoy to the extent the word "cloud" does in computing speak. Talk about a shitty euphemism. The only thing "cloudy" about it is who exactly has full access to your files.

Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:36 PM (/z8es)

344 337 335. And kept shooting & shooting & shooting.

K. I remember reading that someone (the wife iirc) was actually running around the yard looking for a way out while they shot, but I wasn't there and I'd rather not look at the pics.

Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at September 11, 2017 06:36 PM (AoK0a)

345 Something just snaps and you get Causescu torn literally to pieces.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I thought they literally shot him up against the wall. They shot his wife as well.
Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at September 11, 2017 06:33 PM (AoK0a)

Potato, potato, either one works.

Posted by: Country Boy - official AmbASSador to the CenTexMoMee - Molson labe! at September 11, 2017 06:36 PM (gG97F)

346 335. And kept shooting & shooting & shooting.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at September 11, 2017 06:34 PM (fA1SL)

Yup....the old lady tried to slap one of the guards saying he was hurting the old man and the guard shoved her to the wall and then they shot them both.
(old video on youboob somewhere)

Warmed my scrotum it did......commie dictator and wife shot by commie guns and bullets.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2017 06:37 PM (5VlCp)

347 We need a group to vouch for hot Nordic women.

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And hot eastern european women.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 11, 2017 04:59 PM

Ach, Herr Taylor, I am yours!

Call me.

Posted by: "Mutti" Merkle at September 11, 2017 06:38 PM (ctuyM)

348 Wasn't Anthony Kennedy supposed to retire? WTF happened to that BS?

Posted by: scofflaw_x at September 11, 2017 06:38 PM (sk3Uw)

349 Many of the Linux people are worried that WSL is MS's sneaky attempt to take over Linux.
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They are offering Ubuntu in the Windows Store now.

I still have to let that one sink in.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 06:39 PM (XkSQF)

350 The only thing "cloudy" about it is who exactly has full access to your files.
Posted by: MSTisdale at September 11, 2017 06:36 PM

I can see clearly now, the rain is gone ...

Posted by: Bob from NSA at September 11, 2017 06:41 PM (ctuyM)

351 308 My old version of Microsoft Office for XP would not run on Windows 10. I looked at the new version and they wanted $200 for it as a download. I am now running Open Office for free.

All the cool kids have switch to Libre Office.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 11, 2017 06:41 PM (v3pYe)

352 Eh. I like to 'own' software, not rent it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at

You purchased the rights to use the copy you have paid for, you don't own any software. Anything you have on your computer can likely be revoked by the people that actually do have a copyright on the software on your computer.
The only software you could actually own is if you wrote a program yourself, and copyrighted it.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 11, 2017 06:41 PM (vcOmj)

353 mark at 98, I've had the same suspicion. and why should He bother with us, as we've become such a jack ass of a nation.

Posted by: willow at September 11, 2017 06:44 PM (FKrah)

354 >> They are offering Ubuntu in the Windows Store now.

That's the special version of Ubuntu for WSL. In the Fall Update, Fedora is going to get in on it too, and perhaps some other Linux distributions.

It's command line only at present. X GUI apps will not work, but that may change as well.

They have to do some tricks using NTFS extended attributes to properly emulate Linux file system permissions and other shit. Win32 programs don't know anything about this, and you've got to be careful not to let them touch the Linux subsystem's files.

Well they maintain a parallel way to access other files between both systems, but the core Linux system filesystem must not be touched from Windows applications.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at September 11, 2017 06:44 PM (8O3HH)

355 Posted by: publius
===

Hey publius.

Have you checked out Wireguard? Just really cool , cutting edge stuff. Will probably replace openvpn.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at September 11, 2017 06:47 PM (XkSQF)

356 Yeah,they keep pushing back the date of impending doom as we are all. Still here and no coastal city has been submerged yet....
Posted by: steevy
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Our uber-Prog little town closed the schools today...at 12:00 noon. Why 12:00? Because then it counts as a full day for $. And, the teachers get an afternoon off. We mustn't take any chances.

The storm, you see. So far, dead damn calm, and less than an 1/8" of rain. Completely predictable, to anyone who can look at radar. If today were just an ordinary Fall day, there would be not the slightest comment made.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 11, 2017 06:47 PM (w1zJX)

357 Why is everybody pickin' on me?

Posted by: Sonobi at September 11, 2017 06:50 PM (ctuyM)

358 348 Wasn't Anthony Kennedy supposed to retire? WTF happened to that BS?
Posted by: scofflaw_x at September 11, 2017 06:38 PM (sk3Uw)

Hillary didn't win?

Posted by: buzzion at September 11, 2017 07:03 PM (z/Ubi)

359 >>>These same phytoestrogents, however, can also cause a condition known among brewers as Brewer's Droop." IOW, man boobs<<<

Titties and Beer, Brah! Now if can only get those moobies to produce a delicious low calorie light beer straight from the tap.

Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2017 07:12 PM (D0riW)

360 I don't see how the first part is unconstitutional either. No foreigner has the right to enter this country unless we say so... even if they have relatives here.

Posted by: redbanzai at September 11, 2017 07:22 PM (FTXAT)

361 There are 3 branches of Government.
Executive, legislative and Judicial, they are all co equal.
meaning Trump has the power to tell the judicial branch to suck a dick.
The courts are not MORE powerful than the Executive branch.

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