Hypocrite...Thy Name Is U.C. Berkeley

UC Berkeley is offering counseling services to those upset by Ben Shapiro's speech pic.twitter.com/wPX1dYXD3P
— Alex Griswold (@HashtagGriswold) September 8, 2017

This is a fascinating example of the perfect tone-deafness of the Left and the Academy, but I repeat myself. One would think that the administration's concern for people's "sense of safety and belonging" would extend to those speakers whose beliefs were stifled, violently in many cases. Where is Ben Shapiro's counselor? Where is Ann Coulter's therapist? They should buy Milo Yiannopoulos an "emotional support" dog!

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 Good afternoon!

Posted by: ibguy at September 10, 2017 12:01 PM (vUcdz)

2 The Tyranny of the Self-Annointed Victim, Part #693

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 10, 2017 12:03 PM (oVJmc)

3 I wouldn't need counseling, but I would demand a security detail....preferably of my choice.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2017 12:03 PM (x9c8r)

4 And will no one rid me of this meddlesome Sonobi???

Posted by: ibguy at September 10, 2017 12:03 PM (vUcdz)

5 Heh: Been a long time since a "first."

Wasn't even trying

Posted by: ibguy at September 10, 2017 12:04 PM (vUcdz)

6 Not tone deaf. They know what they are doing, and they know why. They don't think you can stop them. And they're probably right.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:04 PM (Pz4pT)

7 4 And will no one rid me of this meddlesome Sonobi???
Posted by: ibguy at September 10, 2017 12:03 PM (vUcdz

#twoweeks

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at September 10, 2017 12:04 PM (zHa+P)

8 Hello Gorgeous!

Posted by: Barbra Streisand at September 10, 2017 12:05 PM (iMDvh)

9 7 Pug

Posted by: ibguy at September 10, 2017 12:05 PM (vUcdz)

10 I need emotional support!

Posted by: Miley, temporarily dethroned at September 10, 2017 12:06 PM (Id9+8)

11 Or better yet, where are the counselors for those students who get terrorized by Antifa? You know, that terrorist organization that is given free reign on the UC Berkeley campus.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 10, 2017 12:07 PM (pvjTE)

12 Afternoon Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2017 12:07 PM (tr2D7)

13 WTF? Did Ben Shapiro whip out his dong and shake it at the crowd?

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2017 12:08 PM (D0riW)

14 Could be said of many a university

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 12:09 PM (pPKG5)

15 I NEED MY FUCKING SERVICE ANIMAL!!!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2017 12:09 PM (gC2IV)

16 "Fucking Service Animal?" Tell me more.

Posted by: sandra fluke at September 10, 2017 12:11 PM (B8aFS)

17 I NEED MY F*CKING SERVICE ANIMAL!!!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2017 12:09 PM (gC2IV)

Get thee to my horse stables.

Posted by: Catherine the Grate at September 10, 2017 12:12 PM (Pz4pT)

18 That the higher learning has dumbed down their charges is a travesty.
I have written many times if you go into a professional's office and see the diplomas, awards, and affiliations from these Leftist Seminaries quickly run away, because whatever your need the person might turn into a ball of jelly at a moments notice.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 12:13 PM (pPKG5)

19 Not tone deaf. They know what they are doing, and they know why. They don't think you can stop them. And they're probably right.
Posted by: BurtTC

Uh yeah. That there is probably close to being 100% correct.
This is pablum thought control. Sure, that there right wing nut job made you upset, but it's ok.
And pretty soon, the whole social milieu is intolerant of those right wing nut jobs.
It was like something I was reading this morning linked by Instapundit. Because they allowed homosexual marriage and are now normalizing it, LGBQ, gender transisitioning, etc., it is becoming impossible for a believing Christian to hold public office.

Who could have seen THAT coming? And it will be like that here in a few more years. We're all just a few more sensitivity seminars away from accepting all that.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at September 10, 2017 12:14 PM (S6Pax)

20 I NEED MY F*CKING SERVICE ANIMAL!!!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2017 12:09 PM (gC2IV)

Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my.....

Posted by: Bull Winkler at September 10, 2017 12:14 PM (Pz4pT)

21 No possible way short of divine intervention this ends well. This is an old script, and it always seems to end the same way.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 10, 2017 12:15 PM (66CWr)

22 My service animal is a sharktopus named noodles.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2017 12:19 PM (gC2IV)

23 No possible way short of divine intervention this ends well. This is an old script, and it always seems to end the same way.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 10, 2017 12:15 PM (66CWr)

I wish I was as optimistic. But if something does happen to put an end to this nonsense, it will be coming from an angle no one expects and when it's least expected....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:19 PM (7uYFy)

24 Who could have seen THAT coming? And it will be like that here in a few more years. We're all just a few more sensitivity seminars away from accepting all that.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at September 10, 2017 12:14 PM (S6Pax)

In reality, as far as mental illness goes, the insanity of "gender identity" nonsense is relatively benign. We are possibly on the cusp of something here, where YOUR reality is oppressive to all sorts of folks who have a different one.

Not just the obvious psychotics (who are STILL supposed to be allowed to direct their own care... I'm not joking), but also the vast ocean of people who suffer from mood disorders. Which is how we get to "safe spaces" and trigger warnings and all that. My anxiety/depression is YOUR fault.

Then we get to the personality disorders, and oh brother look out! We're already at a point where the pee-sigh-chiatrists want to write those out of the diagnostic manuals, because they don't have pills for it. Delusion, heel thyself!

Yes, I spelled 'heel' correctly.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:20 PM (Pz4pT)

25 If you're 25 and still in college and need meds to control your toddler like outbursts and you have a support dog and mommy does too much for you, then yeah, you need this service too. Sign up for everything. Avoid adulting.

Posted by: NCKate at September 10, 2017 12:20 PM (9S69S)

26 Milo would probably prefer a service cock....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:21 PM (7uYFy)

27 They are raising a generation of namby pambys.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2017 12:21 PM (JO9+V)

28 They're conditioning their students to believe dissenting viewpoints are traumatic and inherently evil on a visceral level, and reinforcing it for those students who are already conditioned to this state of being. Also the whole "their speech is violence" or at least physically harmful.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:22 PM (0mRoj)

29 They are raising a generation of namby pambys.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2017 12:21 PM (JO9+V)

But with a vicious streak.....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:22 PM (7uYFy)

30 "The dept. of AWWWW, you poor baby."

JHC on a pogo stick! They're gonna have to change the colors on traffic lights. Red could trigger someone.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:23 PM (Enq6K)

31 Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:20 PM (Pz4pT)

Why do so many with obvious mental disorders gravitate to the left? It seems like we have an epidemic of disorders.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:23 PM (Ri/rl)

32 They all will be crying like Goldie Hawn in Private Benjamin.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2017 12:24 PM (JO9+V)

33 ITS FUNNR BECAUSE ADULT IS NOT A VERB!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at September 10, 2017 12:24 PM (gC2IV)

34 No possible way short of divine intervention this ends well. This is an old script, and it always seems to end the same way.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 10, 2017 12:15 PM (66CWr)

I wish I was as optimistic. But if something does happen to put an end to this nonsense, it will be coming from an angle no one expects and when it's least expected....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:19 PM (7uYFy)

My belief is that Divine Intervention is.

In other words, the script is already written. God needs not reset anything, His plan already exists, and will play out as it does, including each and every one of us using our free will to execute our part in it.

I'm not comforted by this thought, not in the least. Pain is life. Life is pain, and brother, we gots us some living to do.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:24 PM (Pz4pT)

35 Brief hurricane update - not much going on in Central FL right now. Breezy, overcast and steady drizzle. It may intensify tonight as Irma creeps its way up the Gulf Coast, but so far so good.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (0mRoj)

36 I would expect noting different from UC Berkley. Just one more reason why these dens of unmitigated communism and idiocy should not be supported by the average taxpayer.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (mpXpK)

37 Why do so many with obvious mental disorders gravitate to the left? It seems like we have an epidemic of disorders.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:23 PM (Ri/rl)

One reason--not the only one though--is that the left ( in the guise of institutions like the Democrat Party, The Episcopalian Church and most colleges and Universities CATER to those with these disorders....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (7uYFy)

38 I NEED MY F*CKING SERVICE ANIMAL!!!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2017 12:09 PM (gC2IV)

Hey Rocky, watch me pull a ~~rabbit~~ gerbil out of my.....
Posted by: Bull Winkler

Posted by: Richard Gere at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (tr2D7)

39 35 Brief hurricane update - not much going on in Central FL right now. Breezy, overcast and steady drizzle. It may intensify tonight as Irma creeps its way up the Gulf Coast, but so far so good.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (0mRoj)

Glad to hear you're ok! I was looking to see if you had checked in on earlier threads.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (Enq6K)

40 These people are mentally ill.

They will only get worse, not better.

Sad really but be prepared to smash them at every oppourtunity, with shovel, axe or butt plate.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (5VlCp)

41 People talk about killing all the lawyers as the cure for society's ills, but if you really want to make lasting difference, purge the universities.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (0mRoj)

42 No one should be made to feel threatened or harassed simply because of what they believe or how they feel! Except all you guys that do not believe and feel how we do. You guys should be harassed, shut down and smashed with bike locks because of what you believe and how you feel.

Posted by: Derptastic at September 10, 2017 12:27 PM (DB16e)

43 Glad to hear you're ok! I was looking to see if you had checked in on earlier threads.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (Enq6K)

Thanks! Yeah, I'm good, I just overslept. The gray skies and light rainfall have a soporific effect on me. It's actually kind of nice.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (0mRoj)

44 So someone gives a speech and people who don't even attend need counseling because of what he may or may not say. They sound very emotionally and mentally stable and well prepared for life and getting a job.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (auHtY)

45 Berkley is an extreme. They always have been.

Man, when I was in college, I was expected to be an adult. Also at my jobs. These people will not be able to function in the real world. Probably will live in their parents basements & go to protests.

But, I need a service animal too. Reading the news everyday is upsetting me. And, I want the govt. to pay for it. Plus, the food, vet bills, etc. I deserve it! I have a right to it! People owe me! I think we need to add the cost of this to Obamacare.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (iMDvh)

46 Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:20 PM (Pz4pT)

Why do so many with obvious mental disorders gravitate to the left? It seems like we have an epidemic of disorders.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:23 PM (Ri/rl)

I think the answer is complicated, but the short version is, that the way mental health is delivered, patients are so trained to believe their solutions are found in someone else's decisions to provide them with aid and comfort. Usually in the form of a pill.

If... and that's a big IF, mental healthcare systems were to deliver effective treatment, there WOULD be a line at which patients are allowed to make their own decisions, and we only get to the other side of it when the person is incapable of making rational choices. I.E., those safety situations (self harm/harm to others).

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (Pz4pT)

47 *No possible way short of divine intervention this ends well. This is an old script, and it always seems to end the same way.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at September 10, 2017 12:15 PM (66CWr)*

No! It will be different this time! We are smarter than those other guys. We will show you!

Signed: People who slept thru History class.

Posted by: tbodie at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (dnQ1L)

48 41 People talk about killing all the lawyers as the cure for society's ills, but if you really want to make lasting difference, purge the universities.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (0mRoj)

AmishDude (college professor) use to always blame everything on lawyers.

On one thread, during his typical screed about lawyers, I suggested it was perhaps college professors we needed to do away with.

I do believe he was insulted.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (Enq6K)

49 Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (iMDvh)

Are you Gorilla Gumdrop's evil twin?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (0mRoj)

50 but if you really want to make lasting difference, purge the ~~universities~~ progressive education complex.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (0mRoj)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (wYseH)

51 Evidently academia never heard of "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."

The educational system is run by Mao.

Posted by: True the Note at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (SJ184)

52 Why do so many with obvious mental disorders gravitate to the left? It seems like we have an epidemic of disorders.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:23 PM (Ri/rl)

What's worse is the mental defectives are running the schools and government and dictating to us how we shall live based on their mentally and emotionally unstable view of life

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 12:30 PM (auHtY)

53 Nothing needs to be purged.

Free speech would take care of this mess.

Posted by: True the Note at September 10, 2017 12:30 PM (SJ184)

54 So when Michael Moore or some other leftie appears to speak, will they do the same?

If not, is it because

1) conservatives aren't weak
2) No one could feel threatened by truth and love
3) Fcuk conservatives

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (vChNs)

55
Gender transition.

That is a complete fallacy. It CANNOT happen. Our species is confined to two genders, male and female. Confusion as to which in a particular individual indicates mental or emotional issues that need resolving.

In light of all that, why does ANYONE feel trepidation about stating those facts clearly in any discussion of gender transition?

Promulgating the fallacy is cruel abuse.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (S/hVx)

56 The Left represents a grab bag of constituencies that should and would be in constant conflict---Muslims and Transgenders; namby -pambys and hard core criminal illegal aliens; blacks and gays. It's amazing how they hold it all together by making White Men the focus of all evil in the modern world.....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (7uYFy)

57 The Left is filled with children who hate Mommy and/or Daddy.

Therefore, all means of order and discipline are EVIL.

Posted by: True the Note at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (SJ184)

58 One reason--not the only one though--is that the left ( in the guise of institutions like the Democrat Party, The Episcopalian Church and most colleges and Universities CATER to those with these disorders....
Posted by: JoeF.

It's like a disease sometimes. To innoculate yourself from getting sick, you get a very small bit of the disease to develop resistance to it.
So some people are just a little bit crazy to keep from going totally INSANE.
But, maybe it's not working.

And that is also why I think all the zombie TV shows and movies are sort of popular. It's a metaphor for all the crazies out there. All of us have the sneaking suspicion that the rest of the country is nuts. Except you and a small circle of friends.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (S6Pax)

59 Why do so many with obvious mental disorders gravitate to the left? It seems like we have an epidemic of disorders.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:23 PM (Ri/rl)

One reason--not the only one though--is that the left ( in the guise of institutions like the Democrat Party, The Episcopalian Church and most colleges and Universities CATER to those with these disorders....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (7uYFy)

Yes, that's another way to put it. Feed on their fears, and offer your solution: Which is to blame others for your problems, and offer government (Big Brother) as your solution.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (Pz4pT)

60 I can't imagine how anyone could miss that this treatment of students is damaging to their maturation and future life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 12:32 PM (39g3+)

61 35 Brief hurricane update - not much going on in Central FL right now. Breezy, overcast and steady drizzle. It may intensify tonight as Irma creeps its way up the Gulf Coast, but so far so good.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (0mRoj)

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not quite kite flying weather?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:32 PM (vChNs)

62 Berkley is an extreme. They always have been.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (iMDvh)

Nope.

When I was there in the 1980s it had a vibrant conservative voice.

And students were treated like grownups.

This is a relatively recent change.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2017 12:32 PM (wYseH)

63 AmishDude (college professor) use to always blame everything on lawyers.

On one thread, during his typical screed about lawyers, I suggested it was perhaps college professors we needed to do away with.

I do believe he was insulted.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (Enq6K)

I'm sure he was. He was to lawyers as Pol Pot was to people with glasses. But if you think about it, if you want to strike this insane strain of progressivism at the root, where do you go to do it? You go to the institutions that are propagandizing and brainwashing each new generation to believe it.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:33 PM (0mRoj)

64 When they do this it is a passive-aggressive military tactic. They are telling the community at large that these ideas cause PTSD, that they are *literally* traumatic.

This is what gives cover to antifa's claim that "their speech is violence".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 12:33 PM (6FqZa)

65 Meanwhile, 20 professors, at least one from Harvard, were arrested at an anti-Trump protest. See WZ.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at September 10, 2017 12:34 PM (Nwg0u)

66 Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (0mRoj)

FIFY
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (wYseH)

Fair enough, but you have to start somewhere. Plus, where are we getting these leftist dunce education majors teaching elementary and high school from?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:34 PM (0mRoj)

67 Insomniac...glad you are okay. And that you got sleep. See, all you needed was a hurricane to cure your insomnia. Who knew?

My siblings and I love storms. Wild, crazy storms. We seem to be outliers in this.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:35 PM (iMDvh)

68 not quite kite flying weather?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:32 PM (vChNs)

Would need a little more wind and a little less rain.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:35 PM (0mRoj)

69 Gender transition.

That is a complete fallacy. It CANNOT happen. Our species is confined to two genders, male and female. Confusion as to which in a particular individual indicates mental or emotional issues that need resolving.

In light of all that, why does ANYONE feel trepidation about stating those facts clearly in any discussion of gender transition?

Promulgating the fallacy is cruel abuse.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (S/hVx)

True, but the Millenials and the generations that are following it seem to have no trouble accepting without question what they have been instructed to accept by the educational system and the mass media. This is the problem. They fancy themselves as "rebels", but in reality they are conformist followers afraid of staking out a position and holding it. Say what you will about the hippies in the '60's--but they questioned authority.
These kids today? Pure pussies.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:35 PM (7uYFy)

70 People talk about killing all the lawyers as the cure for society's ills, but if you really want to make lasting difference, purge the universities.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:26 PM (0mRoj)

AmishDude (college professor) use to always blame everything on lawyers.

On one thread, during his typical screed about lawyers, I suggested it was perhaps college professors we needed to do away with.

I do believe he was insulted.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (Enq6K)

It's fun to take shots at lawyers (no, really!), but my personal favorite is when everyone's favorite chemist was clamoring for the Cobs to ban anyone who used the word "perfesser" to refer to him.

Both these previously sane gents went mad around the same time... for the same reason.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:36 PM (Pz4pT)

71 68 not quite kite flying weather?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:32 PM (vChNs)

Would need a little more wind and a little less rain.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:35 PM (0mRoj)

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I can meet you halfway on that

Posted by: Irma at September 10, 2017 12:36 PM (vChNs)

72 I can't imagine how anyone could miss that this treatment of students is damaging to their maturation and future life.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 12:32 PM (39g3+)

I believe they know exactly the damage they inflict on the lives of the youth.

Posted by: tbodie at September 10, 2017 12:37 PM (dnQ1L)

73 It's like a disease sometimes. To innoculate yourself from getting sick, you get a very small bit of the disease to develop resistance to it.

Well that applies to what these kids are missing too. I'd call them young people but their maturation process is damaged.

You need to be exposed to hardship, failure, difficulty, challenges, and things you don't like, understand or even that you fear in order to grow. Those little hurts save you from bigger ones later.

And none of them are ready for anything in life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 12:37 PM (39g3+)

74 True, but the Millenials and the generations that are following it seem to have no trouble accepting without question what they have been instructed to accept by the educational system and the mass media. This is the problem. They fancy themselves as "rebels", but in reality they are conformist followers afraid of staking out a position and holding it. Say what you will about the hippies in the '60's--but they questioned authority.
These kids today? Pure pussies.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:35 PM (7uYFy)

Paul Jospeh Watson has an interesting video out about this phenomenon in the context of our popular culture. The upshot is that there is no actual youth counterculture in this generation to challenge the establisment. They are in synch with the establishment. Everything is lock-step homogenized programming.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:37 PM (0mRoj)

75 I used to have a fairly conservative daughter. Then college and law school happened. Not so much anymore....

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (Enq6K)

76 55
Gender transition.

That is a complete fallacy. It CANNOT happen. Our species is confined to two genders, male and female. Confusion as to which in a particular individual indicates mental or emotional issues that need resolving.

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you've conceded half the fight. There are 2 SEXES. Gender is a fairy tale.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (vChNs)

77 I need an emotional support gorilla that can tear the arms off hippies, commies, and other riff raft.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (Nwg0u)

78 Will there be bubbles? Puppies? Balloons?

Posted by: tu3031 at September 10, 2017 12:39 PM (O5Q3r)

79 Fair enough, but you have to start somewhere. Plus, where are we getting these leftist dunce education majors teaching elementary and high school from?
Posted by: Insomniac

Actually, one of the biggest "leftist dunce teachers" that my kids had as a history teacher in High School went to the US Naval Academy. Annapolis.
Yeah, es pravda!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 10, 2017 12:39 PM (S6Pax)

80 77 I need an emotional support gorilla that can tear the arms off hippies, commies, and other riff raft.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (Nwg0u)

At least a Trunk Monkey.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:39 PM (0mRoj)

81 Your service animal is that nympho sophomore chick in room 203 of your dorm.

Posted by: Roy at September 10, 2017 12:39 PM (ABjxW)

82
You need to be exposed to hardship, failure, difficulty, challenges, and things you don't like, understand or even that you fear in order to grow

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that's what girls are for

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:39 PM (vChNs)

83 62 Berkley is an extreme. They always have been.
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (iMDvh)

Nope.
When I was there in the 1980s it had a vibrant conservative voice.
And students were treated like grownups.
This is a relatively recent change.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2017 12:32 PM (wYseH)

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Damn it people! Don't read my posts & take me seriously. I'm a gorilla. And a gumdrop.

Re: Berkeley, I was thinking about stuff I read about the 60s. It was a good extreme then. They were leading in a positive way. Iirc. I think. Maybe. Unsure.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:40 PM (iMDvh)

84 AmishDude (like me, I suppose) provides some evidence for the theory that highly-mathematical minds are brittle.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 12:40 PM (6FqZa)

85 Sure hope Ace is being paid a pretty packet for that more than annoying blue and yellow Sonobi square that butts in on every post.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 12:40 PM (7m3t8)

86 Maybe the Beserkley kids need a little Matt Foley motivational speaking.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2017 12:41 PM (JO9+V)

87 The upshot is that there is no actual youth counterculture in this generation to challenge the establisment.

I actually think there is. For better or worse it is /pol/.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 12:41 PM (6FqZa)

88 Gender is a fairy tale. Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (vChNs)
=====

It is a linguistic structure.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 12:41 PM (MIKMs)

89 85 Sure hope Ace is being paid a pretty packet for that more than annoying blue and yellow Sonobi square that butts in on every post.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 12:40 PM (7m3t

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The Sonobi is making me angry.

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 12:42 PM (Sfs6o)

90 They'll ROO the day!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at September 10, 2017 12:42 PM (mJ8mX)

91 Sure hope Ace is being paid a pretty packet for that more than annoying
blue and yellow Sonobi square that butts in on every post.

So it's not just me.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 10, 2017 12:42 PM (O5Q3r)

92 Your service animal is that nympho sophomore chick in room 203 of your dorm.

That's the one who'll come back two months later calling you a rapist on Facebook and dragging a mattress to class with you

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 12:42 PM (6FqZa)

93 Sure hope Ace is being paid a pretty packet for that more than annoying

blue and yellow Sonobi square that butts in on every post.

Hopefully Ace will offer us counseling for being triggered by it.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 10, 2017 12:43 PM (O5Q3r)

94 Let's look on the positive side.

Indoctrinated, misinformed and clueless on history Leftists can not adjust to changing circumstances.
They can attempt to seize power only in a stable society. They are made as vulnerable as small children in an evil world. They are functionally mentally ill.

We know how to adjust. We've had to do it since the 1970, when a Constitutional self-goverened went into a power dive. And we are thinking of what-ifs. I saw on a previous thread that one of the Morons had a plan to loot Costcos in the burning times.

We know winter is coming, and we are hardening our hearts to survive it. Not a desired path, but one we will be forced on. And we, as the ones carrying the torch of American exceptionalism, will prevail.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 10, 2017 12:43 PM (hyuyC)

95 Wth is sonobi anyway?

Other than annoying pita I mean?

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 10, 2017 12:44 PM (6vOH5)

96 Counseling services for those upset by conservative speech. Paramedic services for conservatives.

Posted by: UCB at September 10, 2017 12:44 PM (/qEW2)

97 I actually think there is. For better or worse it is /pol/.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 12:41 PM (6FqZa)

To a point perhaps, but they're largely invisible except to political uber-nerds like us.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:44 PM (0mRoj)

98 49 Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:28 PM (iMDvh)

Are you Gorilla Gumdrop's evil twin?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:29 PM (0mRoj)

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Ha! She's a Doppelg�nger. Or, am I? Mawhahahaha.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 12:44 PM (iMDvh)

99 That's the one who'll come back two months later calling you a rapist on Facebook and dragging a mattress to class with you
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 12:42 PM (6FqZa)
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Or in some cases dragging the back seat of a car. Or a piece of cardboard.

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 12:44 PM (Sfs6o)

100 Millenials and the generations that are following it seem to have no trouble accepting without question what they have been instructed to accept by the educational system and the mass media. This is the problem. They fancy themselves as "rebels", but in reality they are conformist followers afraid of staking out a position and holding it.

They are a strange mix of cynicism and blind faith. They are extremely skeptical of everything, filled with contempt for experts and authorities, and reject all manner of press and government proclamations... except the ones that appeal to what they wish and hope to be true.

For example, they reject science regarding abortion, stem cell research, solar-driven climate, and gender, but embrace global warming and 72 genders. Why? because its what they feel to be true and what appeals to them.

When you've been raised to follow your dreams, trust your heart, believe in yourself, and had any hardship brushed away while being continually built up by helicoptering parents, you have no skills or tools to discern between right and wrong. All you have is contempt for everything except for that which pleases you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 12:45 PM (39g3+)

101 Re: Berkeley, I was thinking about stuff I read about the 60s. It was a good extreme then. They were leading in a positive way. Iirc. I think. Maybe. Unsure.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla

I knew a very nice lady who graduated from Berkeley with a MA in English (BA from Ohio State), who is a very talented writer, also a very talented artist. Very nice very smart person, but thought the college Republicans at Berkeley (when she attended in the late '70's), were just horrid people.

My oldest sister got a graduate fellowship to go to Berkeley in 1973, when she finished her BA at a state university in Ohio, graduating Summa cum Lauda.
She was a very bright woman (still is), and had the lefty political attitude to fit in.
She came home after about 8 weeks. Couldn't stand the place.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 10, 2017 12:46 PM (S6Pax)

102 I don't mind supporting them.

But it would be to the extent of maybe a free laminated card, with the number for the Suicide Prevention Hotline.

Harsh?

Don't think so.
I do want to extend help if they are considering harming themselves.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2017 12:46 PM (EyPfd)

103 I don't see any ads. Adblocker plus FTW.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:46 PM (Enq6K)

104 To be, or Sonobi
That is the question.

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 12:46 PM (Sfs6o)

105 35 Brief hurricane update - not much going on in Central FL right now. Breezy, overcast and steady drizzle. It may intensify tonight as Irma creeps its way up the Gulf Coast, but so far so good.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (0mRoj)

Yay! Stay safe. Don't pin up any pinups on the eyewall.

Posted by: Adriane the Meteorology Critic ... at September 10, 2017 12:47 PM (AoK0a)

106 This is rampant. We send my son to to a Christian, conservative college in Michigan. Hope College. It is supported mainly by the DeVoss family. Not only did they have vigils when Trump got elected, but the "Latino" club wants to have a vigil for DACA. Citing Christian principles, of course.
The left cannot be reasoned with. Everything is subordinate to their personal desires.
At their core, they are narcissists, which is why they cannot be reasoned with. They absolutely believe that they are special, and are thus accorded special rights that others may not have.
They cannot see hypocrisy, which is why that is an ineffective argument. It is also why their coalitions inevitably break apart, although only after wreaking havoc throughout society. There is no overarching principles that unite them, only power for their specific small narrow group.
When I email this clown asking him to cite the references in the bible that says that people should benefit for their crimes, or that people should separate themselves into racial groups for the purpose of acquiring power, what is it you think he will cite?
At that point, he will know more than the bible, I expect.

Posted by: MikeB at September 10, 2017 12:47 PM (bqJUN)

107
75 I used to have a fairly conservative daughter. Then college and law school happened. Not so much anymore....
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (Enq6K)

Me too. He was brainwashed and is rebelling. I'm waiting for experience to teach him.

The funniest example was during the election, he was here and he was registered to vote in VA. Someone voted in his name. I laughed and told him I thought there was no voter fraud? He didn't think I was funny. I wanted him to report it, I'm not sure if he did.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:47 PM (Ri/rl)

108 103 I don't see any ads. Adblocker plus FTW.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:46 PM (Enq6K)

++

No one likes a braggart!

Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 12:47 PM (7m3t8)

109 MacBook Air.
Even when I turn off the Adblock Plus nd the Ghostery, I see nothing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2017 12:48 PM (EyPfd)

110 How are you doing, Insomniac? Someone asked about you on the hurricane thread.

(Yes, there was a hurricane thread below the book thread. A well-guarded secret, judging by the number of commenters.)

Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2017 12:49 PM (sdi6R)

111 Brief hurricane update - not much going on in Central FL right now. Breezy, overcast and steady drizzle. It may intensify tonight as Irma creeps its way up the Gulf Coast, but so far so good.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (0mRoj)
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A light rain can be useful is estimating wind speed and direction.

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 12:49 PM (Sfs6o)

112 >>Sure hope Ace is being paid a pretty packet for that more than annoying
blue and yellow Sonobi square that butts in on every post.

Posted by: washrivergal a

You can go to their website and set an opt out which is a cookie supposedly good for 5 years. Seems to work.

Posted by: Aviator at September 10, 2017 12:50 PM (/Nite)

113 Just like a handful of grass, ripped up, and then dropped from shoulder height is useful in determining rainfall.

If it remains dry after falling, it's not raining.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (EyPfd)

114 What is this Sonobi thing people keep talking about?

Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (sdi6R)

115 Me too. He was brainwashed and is rebelling. I'm waiting for experience to teach him.

The funniest example was during the election, he was here and he was registered to vote in VA. Someone voted in his name. I laughed and told him I thought there was no voter fraud? He didn't think I was funny. I wanted him to report it, I'm not sure if he did.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:47 PM (Ri/rl)

It's gotten to the point that we steer clear of ANY topic that could, in any way, shape or form, turn political around her. It ALWAYS turns into a fight.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (Enq6K)

116 Milo's emotional support animal would have to be a black lab. Or maybe the Black Stallion.

PS They don't call the place Berzerkley for nothing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (0ogQG)

117 110 How are you doing, Insomniac? Someone asked about you on the hurricane thread.

(Yes, there was a hurricane thread below the book thread. A well-guarded secret, judging by the number of commenters.)
Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2017 12:49 PM (sdi6R)

I'm doing just fine, thanks. Conditions are overcast, light rain and breezy. The eyewall will be roughly even with my location around 8 or 9 tonight according to the forecasts, so it may pick up as the day progresses. I'm pretty far inland so hopefully it shouldn't be too bad.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:52 PM (0mRoj)

118 >>Not tone deaf. They know what they are doing, and they know why. They
don't think you can stop them. And they're probably right.

Yup. They're sending the message that one *should* need counseling after hearing Shapiro et. al. speak.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2017 12:53 PM (W+vEI)

119 91 Sure hope Ace is being paid a pretty packet for that more than annoying
blue and yellow Sonobi square that butts in on every post.

So it's not just me.
Posted by: tu3031 at September 10, 2017 12:42 PM (O5Q3r)

To make it go away Ace has to pay Sonobi. It's a hybrid ransom-adware.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 10, 2017 12:53 PM (IWbvi)

120 The funniest example was during the election, he was here and he was registered to vote in VA. Someone voted in his name. I laughed and told him I thought there was no voter fraud? He didn't think I was funny. I wanted him to report it, I'm not sure if he did.
Posted by: CaliGirl

My oldest son actually became MORE conservative after college, because the experience taught him a lot about dysfunction people, ideas and their consequences. This wasn't the way it was supposed to happen, but he does reject a lot of the premises of the welfare state, because he saw the real consequences. Well, that, and working part time in a liquor store (to pay for his living expenses) in a really dodgy neighborhood, and seeing the welfare riff-raff that spend all their welfare money on booze.

Those two things meshed rather nicely. He voted for Trump, and still isn't sure if it was the right thing to do. Except he and I talk about what a criminal Hillary is.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....deplorable American at September 10, 2017 12:53 PM (S6Pax)

121 As much as I love AoSHQ, I have to read and comment with adblocks. For some reason I was getting Spanish feminine hygiene products and rather disturbing ads (with pudgy men embracing) for gay couples vacations and testing services. Too many kids around here and am not prepared to answer any of those questions yet.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 12:53 PM (MIKMs)

122 RE: all of this as thought control... IDK.

If you tell someone they are a victim long enough, they will act as though they are a victim.

However, I think that if you take that person out of the victim environment, and tell him he's NOT a victim, eventually he's going to stop seeing himself as a victim.

Right now, universities are using their students as lab rats. "Let's treat them like babies and see what happens. Let's indoctrinate them."

But eventually... it might take a decade or so, some will get their degree and go back into the real world, and find out that they are NOT babies. And adapt.

Is there any in the horde that have been involved in fraternities and sororities? To me, it would seem that would be a good place to kill this "I'm a baby, give me crayons" philosophy. I have never been involved in it, however, it seems to me that, outside of the drinking and whoring (things fragile babies don't do) these organizations do volunteer work, and could be used to break the eternal liberal/ baby/victim mindset.

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 12:53 PM (aT+Bx)

123 Both son and daughter went to college in both Washington and Oregon, of all places. You couldn't find two more conservative people.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 12:54 PM (7m3t8)

124 Just like a handful of grass, ripped up, and then dropped from shoulder height is useful in determining rainfall.

If it remains dry after falling, it's not raining.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (EyPfd)

That works sorta like my Weather Rock(tm)

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2017 12:54 PM (JO9+V)

125 Paul Jospeh Watson has an interesting video out about this phenomenon in the context of our popular culture. The upshot is that there is no actual youth counterculture in this generation to challenge the establisment. They are in synch with the establishment. Everything is lock-step homogenized programming.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:37 PM (0mRoj)
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I think there is some truth in this. We aren't going to see the prolonged adolescence of the previous generation, it'll be even worse -- prolonged toddlerhood.
They are being fed pablum and they like it.

How are these future middle-aged babies going to function in the real world?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 12:55 PM (qJtVm)

126 "That works sorta like my Weather Rock(tm)"

In some ways, yes.

But I believe the Weather Rock was based on advanced Islamic science.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2017 12:55 PM (EyPfd)

127 Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 12:47 PM (Ri/rl)

It's gotten to the point that we steer clear of ANY topic that could, in any way, shape or form, turn political around her. It ALWAYS turns into a fight.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (Enq6K)

My daughter is a Berniebot. Which means, everything I say and do is wrong. And everything she needs, I must pay for it. She doesn't ask for help, she expects it, and doesn't have a clue how to say thank you when she gets it.

I keep thinking we're getting toward the other side of this, but it's been slow, and I'm not sure what kind of relationship we can have if/when she does emerge.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:56 PM (Pz4pT)

128 My kid still seems conservative. But he's spending the year in china. Help or hurt?

Posted by: NCKate at September 10, 2017 12:56 PM (9S69S)

129 What is this Sonobi thing people keep talking about?
Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM

A logo below the heading that is plaguing me that is there on every thread

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 12:57 PM (pPKG5)

130 Not sure counseling would be very effective if rounds were headed their way.
So it's just the antifada, blm, commies we'll need to worry about.

Posted by: RI Red - making another list at September 10, 2017 12:58 PM (jkUQi)

131 So I see Hillary did an interview and said trump won because of White Supremacists that were jealous of the gains of those different than them... In other words RACIST!In different words of course but the same meaning

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2017 12:58 PM (O2RFr)

132 Gender transition.

That is a complete fallacy. It CANNOT happen. Our species is confined to two genders, male and female. Confusion as to which in a particular individual indicates mental or emotional issues that need resolving.

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you've conceded half the fight. There are 2 SEXES. Gender is a fairy tale.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (vChNs)

It is a linguistic structure.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 12:41 PM (MIKMs)

Yeah, mbq is correct.

Until, early in the 1990's, gender was strictly used as a linguistic device.

So, say in Spanish, the word casa would be of the feminine gender because it ends in an "a".

But, maybe in some other language, their word for "house" is masculine.

This is where all of this "gender is fluid" silliness came from cuz in the world of grammar and linguistic that is indeed true.

The gender of the word "house" depends on the word used for house and in what language.

When the Left suddenly switched to identifying people by "gender", I wondered what it was all about.

Now we know.

Another long term plan- 25 years or so- to undermine the foundations of Western Society.

And who do we have on "our side"- dull little jelly beans like McConnell and Ryan and lame-ass #NeverTrumpers.

"Gender" is misused and misunderstood by the Left in the same way they misunderstood and misuse "relativity" and "chaos theory"

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2017 12:58 PM (9q7Dl)

133
I have to read and comment with adblocks. For some reason I was getting Spanish feminine hygiene products and rather disturbing ads (with pudgy men embracing) for gay couples vacations and testing services.

In the future pudgy embracing gay men will punch through the ad blocker!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (IqV8l)

134 They are a strange mix of cynicism and blind faith. They are extremely skeptical of everything, filled with contempt for experts and authorities, and reject all manner of press and government proclamations... except the ones that appeal to what they wish and hope to be true.

For example, they reject science regarding abortion, stem cell research, solar-driven climate, and gender, but embrace global warming and 72 genders. Why? because its what they feel to be true and what appeals to them.

When you've been raised to follow your dreams, trust your heart, believe in yourself, and had any hardship brushed away while being continually built up by helicoptering parents, you have no skills or tools to discern between right and wrong. All you have is contempt for everything except for that which pleases you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 12:45 PM (39g3+)

I also think it can be cynically boiled down to social standing and career aspirations. Millenials are obsessed with both. So if they have to believe or pretend to believe that there are 72 genders, man-made global warming is killing us and that Trump is evil, to continue earning that paycheck, they will . And they just don't want to jeopardize their social standing with people who are in a position to advance them by making waves with with a dissenting opinion. They WILL be ostracized.
And THEY KNOW IT.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (7uYFy)

135 121 ... For some reason I was getting Spanish feminine hygiene products and rather disturbing ads (with pudgy men embracing) for gay couples vacations and testing services. ...
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 12:53 PM (MIKMs)
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I'm sorry, but I laughed.

Maybe Perez Hilton sneaked in and used your computer while you were away?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (qJtVm)

136 121 As much as I love AoSHQ, I have to read and comment with adblocks. For some reason I was getting Spanish feminine hygiene products and rather disturbing ads (with pudgy men embracing) for gay couples vacations and testing services. Too many kids around here and am not prepared to answer any of those questions yet.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 12:53 PM (MIKMs)

You do realize that the ads you see are driven by data mining your Internet search history, right?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)

137 True, but the Millenials and the generations that are following it seem to have no trouble accepting without question what they have been instructed to accept by the educational system and the mass media. This is the problem. They fancy themselves as "rebels", but in reality they are conformist followers afraid of staking out a position and holding it. Say what you will about the hippies in the '60's--but they questioned authority.
These kids today? Pure pussies.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:35 PM (7uYFy)

I couldn't agree more. They blindly follow whatever they are told to believe or do and the lemmings pat themselves on the back for being individuals. Although the 60s hippies were just following the orders of their commie masters too.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:00 PM (auHtY)

138
What is this Sonobi thing people keep talking about?
Posted by: rickl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonobuoy

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2017 01:00 PM (IqV8l)

139 You do realize that the ads you see are driven by data mining your Internet search history, right?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)

Ponders this and looks at ads on all open tabs. Oh dear.

Unplugs all devices and starts plastic/electronics fire in back yard.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 10, 2017 01:03 PM (6vOH5)

140 Some of the mess people made is starting to have repercussions. CA took in millions of illegal immigrants.

Now, they need low income housing. Which was fine, until people found out it has to be built in their neighborhood.

A storm is a brewing.

I skimmed some of the comments too. I was surprised at how many people were pissed off. It's the LA Times, so I expected sympathy. Read it yesterday, so don't know if comments changed. But yea, read the article.

"...that's a big problem for California."

http://tinyurl.com/y7doc6ls

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:04 PM (iMDvh)

141 I also think it can be cynically boiled down to social standing and career aspirations. Millenials are obsessed with both. So if they have to believe or pretend to believe that there are 72 genders, man-made global warming is killing us and that Trump is evil, to continue earning that paycheck, they will . And they just don't want to jeopardize their social standing with people who are in a position to advance them by making waves with with a dissenting opinion. They WILL be ostracized.
And THEY KNOW IT.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (7uYFy)

Yep. Another outcome of the educational industrial complex: Pretend school is free. Have them run up thousands and thousands of dollars of debt that they can't see, except in the shadows, in the background. It's a boogeyman on their tail, and in front of them the left is saying "this way, this way to safety!"

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:04 PM (Pz4pT)

142

Who benefits from perpetual toddlerhood:

1.The Democrat "Mommy" Party
2. Psychiatrists
3. Drug companies
4. Those who want to stop population growth
5. Potentially "planned parenthood"
6. Those who want to destroy the family

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:04 PM (aT+Bx)

143 CaliGirl, just out of curiosity, how did you son find out that someone voted in his name in VA? And where in VA, if you don't mind saying?

Posted by: bluebell at September 10, 2017 01:04 PM (UoSKV)

144 Ike had it wrong.

We should all beware the Grievance-Administrator Industrial Complex.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 10, 2017 01:04 PM (WU7cE)

145 They WILL be ostracized.
And THEY KNOW IT.

Well, its mixed in with the rest. They have no tools or strength to stand against dissent or opposition. So whatever is the majority opinion where they are: they go with it, because to do otherwise is unthinkably painful and unknown, frightening territory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 01:05 PM (39g3+)

146 My daughter is a Berniebot. Which means, everything I say and do is wrong. And everything she needs, I must pay for it. She doesn't ask for help, she expects it, and doesn't have a clue how to say thank you when she gets it.

I keep thinking we're getting toward the other side of this, but it's been slow, and I'm not sure what kind of relationship we can have if/when she does emerge.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:56 PM (Pz4pT)

Ours still does need help from time to time but she's usually very thankful for it. She appreciates everything we've done for her and tells us so often. (She's adopted....biologically she is my husband's niece). She loathes her biological mother. (Biological father is dead...drug/alcohol abuse).

She's mixed race....AA/American Indian/White. So SJW rears it's ugly head too often for me.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:05 PM (Enq6K)

147 Although the 60s hippies were just following the orders of their commie masters too.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:00 PM (auHtY)
I know what you mean, but I think there was a natural tendency of Americans throughout most of our history to not believe everything you were told and to question assumptions and authorities. So I believe that most of the hippies, raised by WW2 vets, were simply a continuation of that tradition. But then they got co-opted by the commies.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 01:05 PM (7uYFy)

148 Watching one of the live streams and realized it was CNN. Been avoiding CNN for months. Somehow they did 't mention Russia/Putin?Trump in the whole 5 minutes I watched. Then I got out of there as quickly as I could.

Posted by: Colin at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (I+I6N)

149 How are these future middle-aged babies going to function in the real world?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 12:55 PM (qJtVm)

For many of them, they never will have to join the "real world." They'll end up at NGOs, activist groups, in bullshit make work jobs like "diversity coordinator" or in the education system.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (0mRoj)

150 You do realize that the ads you see are driven by data mining your Internet search history, right? Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)
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Yes; but since I do not speak Spanish, have no interest in gay couples, and keep my computer locked, I am at a loss as to where they are getting that data.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (MIKMs)

151 I keep thinking we're getting toward the other side of this, but it's been slow, and I'm not sure what kind of relationship we can have if/when she does emerge.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:56 PM (Pz4pT)
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BurtTC, you also have mitigating circumstances there. She is adjusting to life without her mom. You two will get there eventually.

Posted by: bluebell at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (UoSKV)

152 When I email this clown asking him to cite the references in the bible that says that people should benefit for their crimes, or that people should separate themselves into racial groups for the purpose of acquiring power, what is it you think he will cite?
At that point, he will know more than the bible, I expect.
Posted by: MikeB at September 10, 2017 12:47 PM (bqJUN)

He'll probably cite the verses in the Old & New Testaments about extending kindness to the stranger & the alien. Counter with the verses that say to treat the stranger & the alien no differently than you treat your own people - which means they are held to the same standards of law & conduct as anyone else.

Posted by: josephistan at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (ANIFC)

153 Counseling? For those ... upset ... by a speech?

Are they going to have graham crackers and milk? A throw rug to take a nap?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (SRKgf)

154 So if someone feels "harassed" when Michael Moore speaks and says he's glad the white race is fading away and that we're all racists; or when Bill Ayers speaks and says he would and should have bombed more places, killing more people?

This crap, with leftists protesting dissenting voices, was going on way back when at colleges. I didn't feel threatened or harassed; rather I was irritated at the hypocrisy and amazed the administration didn't get the double standard.

Posted by: RM at September 10, 2017 01:07 PM (U3LtS)

155 Yes; but since I do not speak Spanish, have no interest in gay couples, and keep my computer locked, I am at a loss as to where they are getting that data.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (MIKMs)

Sure. Right. Of course. Whatever you say.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:07 PM (0mRoj)

156 It's gotten to the point that we steer clear of ANY topic that could, in any way, shape or form, turn political around her. It ALWAYS turns into a fight.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (Enq6K)

In this day & age, everything is political. Even sports and weather.

Posted by: josephistan at September 10, 2017 01:07 PM (ANIFC)

157 26 Milo would probably prefer a service cock....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:21 PM (7uYFy)
********
ummm,,,,not probably and preferably black.

Posted by: torabora at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (MKKK0)

158 What is this Sonobi thing people keep talking about?

The visual equivalent of the 1-800-KarsforKids song.

Posted by: Monkfish at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (7ciu+)

159 You do realize that the ads you see are driven by data mining your Internet search history, right?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)

Ponders this and looks at ads on all open tabs. Oh dear.

Unplugs all devices and starts plastic/electronics fire in back yard.
Posted by: weirdflunky at September 10, 2017 01:03 PM (6vOH5)

I had an awesome dream last night (seriously), where I was trying to access something on a tablet type device (which I don't have), and NOTHING but spam ads kept popping up. I was trying to close windows, and new ones would pop up. It turned out the Red X's were disguised clicks on more ads. I tried 'control/alt/delete,' but a voice came on with a warning saying it was an unauthorized attempt.

It was harrowing! Really. Then the dream morphed into something about vehicle airbags, and really... my brain is weird.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (Pz4pT)

160 "belonging"

Half the students in university do not "belong" there. I give you, inter alia, anyone majoring in sociology or any "studies" department.

Also anyone who got in solely through affirmative action, insofar as I haven't covered them above.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (SRKgf)

161 Are they going to have graham crackers and milk? A throw rug to take a nap?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (SRKgf)

That actually sounds pretty good right now. I should've been more grateful in kindergarten.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (0mRoj)

162 @76

>gender is a fairy tale<

So all the various cultures and societies through history who defined and differentiated between the two are fairy tales?

I don't understand that argument at all, and intend no sarcasm here.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (S/hVx)

163 You do realize that the ads you see are driven by data mining your Internet search history, right?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)
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Sonobi is a provider of fiery Latina hookers?

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 01:10 PM (Sfs6o)

164 It's gotten to the point that we steer clear of ANY topic that could, in any way, shape or form, turn political around her. It ALWAYS turns into a fight.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 12:51 PM (Enq6K)

My son keeps his mouth shut because he knows it will upset me.

He needs experience. My idea is any tiny thing where we have to deal with a bureaucrat, we are making my son deal with them. His eyes are opening a little bit at a time.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:10 PM (Ri/rl)

165 22 My service animal is a sharktopus named noodles.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 10, 2017 12:19 PM (gC2IV)

Mine is a honey badger. Because honey badger don't give ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:10 PM (SRKgf)

166 So THIS is where everyone is.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:11 PM (PY9jH)

167 My daughter is a Berniebot. Which means, everything I say and do is
wrong. And everything she needs, I must pay for it. She doesn't ask for
help, she expects it, and doesn't have a clue how to say thank you when
she gets it.

--

A gentle reminder: you have a choice in all of this.

You don't have to provide everything she needs and the help she expects. Many parents have found that, in the long run, that providing everything for their adult children has been harmful to them in the long term.

http://tinyurl.com/y7a3eu3c

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:12 PM (aT+Bx)

168 Bill Ayers speaks and says he would and should have bombed more places, killing more people?

He's absolutely right. ISIS, parts of Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and Syria leap to mind.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:12 PM (SRKgf)

169 Hey Jane! How are you? I heard this morning that they've issued, for the first time ever, a TS warning for Atlanta.

It's following you!

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:12 PM (Enq6K)

170 You don't have to provide everything she needs and the help she expects. Many parents have found that, in the long run, that providing everything for their adult children has been harmful to them in the long term.

http://tinyurl.com/y7a3eu3c

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:12 PM (aT+Bx)

I call it "reality therapy." The Kennedys provide a signal example of what happens in its absence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:13 PM (SRKgf)

171 I keep thinking we're getting toward the other side of this, but it's been slow, and I'm not sure what kind of relationship we can have if/when she does emerge.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 12:56 PM (Pz4pT)
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BurtTC, you also have mitigating circumstances there. She is adjusting to life without her mom. You two will get there eventually.

Posted by: bluebell at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (UoSKV)

Thank you for your understanding, and hope. People often ask me "what happened," because we are talking about changes in our relationship, years after her mother's death. I have no answer. Nothing "happened." She has a view of the world that is shaped by the trauma of losing her anchor, and it's hard wired. So... the extent to which the focus is that I am part of the problem, it's irrational, but it's also going to be hard for her to overcome.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (Pz4pT)

172
I see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's shoes again. Have any of these people ever mentally graduated from junior high?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (auHtY)

173 To see how far the rot has spread, check this out:

https://www.instagram.com/boyswithplants/?hl=en

Keep scrolling down.

Come back, John Wayne, all is forgiven.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:15 PM (SRKgf)

174 Invest heavily in testosterone. It will be worth a fortune someday.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 10, 2017 01:15 PM (Tyii7)

175 Berkeley claimed the title of free speech mecca from the 60's I suppose.

But were they ever really about the virtues of free speech and individual liberty? I think not. It was the (commie) radicals that demanded platforms for Soviet backed "counter-culture" revolution. They were anti-Americanism then, they are anti-Americanism now.

Now though, they have power to shut up opposing views, and they make full use of it. The mayor orders a stand down as antifa smashes and burns property, and almost no one is arrested unless hard evidence is forced upon them (e.g. bike lock assaulting prof'). The university forces several hurdles in front of conservative groups on grounds they have to hire police to keep their (crazed) students from assaulting the patriots.

Orwell (and others) had it right 70 years ago. Commies will kill to get their top down control. They plotted the strategy to dominate our media in the 50's and were massively successful. "Free Speech" was never their banner issue ... "fascist" domination was always at the core, still is.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 10, 2017 01:15 PM (yKAUL)

176 Janey, how are you doing? And more importantly, are you being driven crazy by pets and guests yet?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:15 PM (qJtVm)

177 172
I see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's shoes again. Have any of these people ever mentally graduated from junior high?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (auHtY)

Nope. They're all a bunch of 13-year-old mean girls.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:15 PM (0mRoj)

178 One reason--not the only one though--is that the left ( in the guise of institutions like the Democrat Party, The Episcopalian Church and most colleges and Universities CATER to those with these disorders....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2017 12:25 PM (7uYFy)

Not just do they cater to mental disorders, they encourage them.

"Are you upset by the speech? Can you ... go on? Do you need counseling? Or a safe space? Huh? Do you? We understand if you do."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:16 PM (SRKgf)

179 172
I see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's shoes again. Have any of these people ever mentally graduated from junior high?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (auHtY)

She's wearing heels during a hurricane? That hussy!

Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2017 01:16 PM (sdi6R)

180 143 CaliGirl, just out of curiosity, how did you son find out that someone voted in his name in VA? And where in VA, if you don't mind saying?
Posted by: bluebell at September 10, 2017 01:04 PM (UoSKV)

He lived in Arlington. He moved back here before the election and wasn't registered to vote here. He kept asking if his absentee ballot came in the mail. It never came he must've requested one. On Election Day he was upset, someone voted for him. I don't know how he knew. Maybe he could check online somehow. I never thought to ask if someone filled out his absentee ballot or voted in person.

He was upset, he thought I did something with his ballot. That offended me. I don't remember exactly the timeline of these conversations.

I do remember laughing when he told me someone voted in his place, I also told him don't worry they voted for Hillary.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:17 PM (Ri/rl)

181 My daughter is a Berniebot. Which means, everything I say and do is
wrong. And everything she needs, I must pay for it. She doesn't ask for
help, she expects it, and doesn't have a clue how to say thank you when
she gets it.

--

A gentle reminder: you have a choice in all of this.

You don't have to provide everything she needs and the help she expects. Many parents have found that, in the long run, that providing everything for their adult children has been harmful to them in the long term.

http://tinyurl.com/y7a3eu3c

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:12 PM (aT+Bx)

I am referring to her attitude and perspective, not my actions. We're at cross purposes these days precisely because I do NOT provide her with everything she needs.

I'm also not cutting her off, because she is my daughter and I love her. There's a difference between enabling and trying to support, and it's such a complex, ever-shifting balance, I am sure I am getting some things wrong, but for the most part I have an honest view of reality, and my part in it.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:17 PM (Pz4pT)

182 I see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's shoes again. Have any of these people ever mentally graduated from junior high?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (auHtY)

Is this still from her Texas trips or something new?

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:17 PM (Enq6K)

183 In this day & age, everything is political. Even sports and weather.
Posted by: josephistan at September 10, 2017 01:07 PM (ANIFC)

+++

Truer words...

Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 01:18 PM (7m3t8)

184 Well Commiewood once again shows just how dry the well of ideas is:

'The Greatest American Hero' Reboot With Female Lead Gets Big ABC Commitment

Written by Fruchbom, the re-imagining of Greatest American Hero centers on Meera, a 30-year-old Indian-American woman from Cleveland, whose talents include tequila drinking and karaoke and not much else.

Gee I hope she'll be a lesbian so another box can get checked.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:18 PM (auHtY)

185 Sure. Right. Of course. Whatever you say. Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:07 PM (0mRoj)
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Had to 'whitelist' Fox for videos and what ads come up? Spanish-speaking car ads. I know my neighborhood is half Spanish-speaking, but that seems gratuitous -- why not half English and half Spanish on the ads. As far as the icky ads for the gay lifestyle, maybe my neighborhood is wilder than I thought. Not my business, not my circus, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:18 PM (MIKMs)

186 I want a service rhinoceros. Because I need one.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 10, 2017 01:18 PM (n6Hs3)

187 I demand a service hook...er, I mean escort.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:19 PM (0mRoj)

188 Is this still from her Texas trips or something new?

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:17 PM (Enq6K)

At Camp David this weekend.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:19 PM (auHtY)

189 I also told him don't worry they voted for Hillary.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:17 PM (Ri/rl)
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Arlington? Yep, you're right.

Posted by: bluebell at September 10, 2017 01:19 PM (UoSKV)

190
I am referring to her attitude and perspective, not my actions.
We're at cross purposes these days precisely because I do NOT provide
her with everything she needs.

I'm also not cutting her off, because she is my daughter and I love
her. There's a difference between enabling and trying to support, and
it's such a complex, ever-shifting balance, I am sure I am getting some
things wrong, but for the most part I have an honest view of reality,
and my part in it.
----

Thank you for clarifying BurtTC. I didn't realize that she had lost her mother; the situation is more complex than I realized.

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:20 PM (aT+Bx)

191 Now, they need low income housing. Which was fine, until people found out it has to be built in their neighborhood.

A storm is a brewing.

I skimmed some of the comments too. I was surprised at how many people were pissed off. It's the LA Times, so I expected sympathy. Read it yesterday, so don't know if comments changed. But yea, read the article.

"...that's a big problem for California."

http://tinyurl.com/y7doc6ls
Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:04 PM (iMDvh)

Ah, but the toniest parts of California - e.g., Marin County, Malibu, etc. - were specifically exempted from the requirement to build low-income housing in their chi-chi areas.

Hypocrisy much?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:20 PM (SRKgf)

192 >>Gee I hope she'll be a lesbian so another box can get checked.

Maybe an illegal immigrant Mexican sidekick and a South African lover?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2017 01:20 PM (W+vEI)

193 At Camp David this weekend.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:19 PM (auHtY)

WT?!?! Is there an appropriate shoe for friggin' Camp David?!

I'm hoping these people just short out soon. I don't know how it's possible to keep up a freak out for so long over so many inconsequential things.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (Enq6K)

194 He lived in Arlington. He moved back here before the election and wasn't registered to vote here. He kept asking if his absentee ballot came in the mail. It never came he must've requested one. On Election Day he was upset, someone voted for him. I don't know how he knew. Maybe he could check online somehow. I never thought to ask if someone filled out his absentee ballot or voted in person.

He was upset, he thought I did something with his ballot. That offended me. I don't remember exactly the timeline of these conversations.

I do remember laughing when he told me someone voted in his place, I also told him don't worry they voted for Hillary.
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:17 PM (Ri/rl)

At my polling place, the aged election officials who check everyone in have these books that are alphabetized. You have to sign or initial for yourself, and if you look at the book, everyone whose name surrounds yours, you can see if they voted or not.

So.. if that's how it works for him, that's what happened. He went to the polls, because the absentee ballot didn't come, and he saw that someone else already voted for him.

Or... no one did! Could be he went to the polls, and they wouldn't let him vote because he was listed as someone who got an absentee ballot!!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (Pz4pT)

195 Liberalism's results are OK until they come to your neighborhood.

Posted by: gNewt at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (1koXB)

196 161 Are they going to have graham crackers and milk? A throw rug to take a nap?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2017 01:06 PM (SRKgf)

That actually sounds pretty good right now. I should've been more grateful in kindergarten.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (0mRoj)

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Ah, kindergarten. Where I resented taking the nap. I'd like that option back please. It was where I also learned some people were nuts.

But I do not remember a lot of coddling from the teacher. Even then we were expected to work things out. But poor woman, she was still frazzled at the end of the day. A classroom of 5 yo still whine a lot. And, to wrangle them...like herding cats.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (iMDvh)

197 Tampa Bay has been drained of water by the hurricane:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (qJtVm)

198 Thank you for clarifying BurtTC. I didn't realize that she had lost her mother; the situation is more complex than I realized.
Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:20 PM (aT+Bx)

You're welcome! I could, as they say, write a book.

I may. Someday.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:24 PM (Pz4pT)

199 197 Tampa Bay has been drained of water by the hurricane:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (qJtVm)
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It'll be back!

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 01:25 PM (Sfs6o)

200
About the Greatest American Hero remake, the original only lasted 2.5 seasons and wasn't exactly a yuge hit from what I remember. It was pretty lame in fact. My brothers and I watched a few times and dubbed it The Gayest American Hero

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:26 PM (auHtY)

201 >>Yes; but since I do not speak Spanish, have no
interest in gay couples, and keep my computer locked, I am at a loss as
to where they are getting that data.

Posted by: mustbequantum

That's for the free WiFi access.

Posted by: Your Neighbor at September 10, 2017 01:27 PM (/Nite)

202 But I do not remember a lot of coddling from the
teacher. Even then we were expected to work things out. But poor
woman, she was still frazzled at the end of the day. A classroom of 5
yo still whine a lot. And, to wrangle them...like herding cats. Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (iMDvh)
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I'm old so went to K in the dark ages. Two teachers, am and pm classes, 75 kids per class. Kindergarden was a pretty new concept back then. Can anyone even imagine the trauma? /s

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:27 PM (MIKMs)

203 Bill Ayers speaks and says he would and should have bombed more places, killing more people?

"He's absolutely right. ISIS, parts of Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and Syria leap to mind."

Nah, he's a happier warrior hanging out in Hyde Park and offering tea and sympathy to these kindred spirits.

Posted by: RM at September 10, 2017 01:28 PM (U3LtS)

204 Or... no one did! Could be he went to the polls, and they wouldn't let him vote because he was listed as someone who got an absentee ballot!!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (Pz4pT)

He was in CA, if someone voted at a polling place in his name, it was someone that knew he was in CA. His absentee ballot never arrived here or the election officials wouldn't send it out of state.
At the time he was going back and forth if he wanted to work for us or get a different job. ( We made him start at the bottom, that was tough for a college grad).

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:28 PM (Ri/rl)

205 57 The Left is filled with children who hate Mommy and/or Daddy.

Therefore, all means of order and discipline are EVIL.
Posted by: True the Note at September 10, 2017 12:31 PM (SJ184)
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The first might be true but the second is FALSE.

The Baby Boomer leftists, at least the followers, were in rebellion against authority. The watchwords that had mass appeal were 'freedom' and 'liberation.'

But students today are so docile that it is almost frightening and the activists are not the least bit shy about demanding that strict order and discipline be imposed on their environment.

Maybe the Boomers were rebelling against rules because their parents actually had them and youngsters today are screwed up because their parents didn't have very many.

Or maybe it's the type of 'daddy issues' in play. The Boomers had fathers and might rebel against the paternal order as part of a growing up process, a search for independence. The young today, especially on the Left, often don't have fathers at all and rarely have masculine ones. This may create a deep need in them for the order that has been missing from the start.
I dunno.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 10, 2017 01:28 PM (0jtPF)

206 Military enlisted advice request.

Young man a couple of years out of college thinking of joining the US Air Force to serve country and come out with a career. Fluent in Japanese. Has worked abroad in Japan and Ireland.

Good idea? Can you rely on USAF promises?

Is a fiancee / soon wife a complication?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (SIY7D)

207 I moved twice in the space of four months. By gum if the County Election Board wasn't on top of this without me giving them any notice. They must get this info from the post office. Within a month each time they sent me my new voting card.It's amazing how exacting they can be when they put their minds to it.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (7m3t8)

208
You're welcome! I could, as they say, write a book.

I may. Someday.
--

Or you could start a blog. It's pretty easy, and the basic ones are free at wordpress.com.

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (aT+Bx)

209 Hey Jane! How are you? I heard this morning that they've issued, for the first time ever, a TS warning for Atlanta.

It's following you!

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:12 PM (Enq6K)

We made the decision last night to stay. Most of our friends have stayed, too. We had friends who went to Atlanta and decided to come back this morning.

We're expecting T. S. force winds beginning tonight and through tomorrow, with the dreaded spin-off tornadoes. Husband's friend is with the Port and lives near us, and he and his family stayed. He's in constant touch with the NOAA and keeps us informed.

We have a generator and everything is battened down. African student in in the Atlanta area with a planned weekend event for this year's foreign students. Our other student from a couple of years ago is with us, as is son and dog. Dog and kitteh are tolerating each other.

I'm worried sick about cousins who chose to stay in Tampa/St. Pete and Tallahassee. Yeesh.

We have water, food, and no threat of flooding for us. So we're doing as well as can be expected.

Local bar sent a message to son's Farcebook that they're open for bidness and have football on their TVs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (PY9jH)

210 132 Gender transition.

That is a complete fallacy. It CANNOT happen. Our species is confined to two genders, male and female. Confusion as to which in a particular individual indicates mental or emotional issues that need resolving.

---

you've conceded half the fight. There are 2 SEXES. Gender is a fairy tale.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 12:38 PM (vChNs)

It is a linguistic structure.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 12:41 PM (MIKMs)

---

It's a floor wax!

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 01:30 PM (vChNs)

211 179 172
I see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's shoes again. Have any of these people ever mentally graduated from junior high?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (auHtY)

She's wearing heels during a hurricane? That hussy!
Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2017 01:16 PM (sdi6R)

========

But if Michelle? Grace under pressure. Heck, if Barry wore high heels, it'd be celebrated as a LBQTYFGHP victory. (I refuse to learn the correct acronym)

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:31 PM (iMDvh)

212 Young man a couple of years out of college thinking of joining the US Air Force to serve country and come out with a career. Fluent in Japanese. Has worked abroad in Japan and Ireland.

Good idea? Can you rely on USAF promises?

Is a fiancee / soon wife a complication?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (SIY7D)

I've never been in the service, but my understanding from others here is that a) you cannot rely on a recruiter's promises and b) having a relationship with someone while enlisted is difficult. I would think that a guy fluent in Japanese and who as worked abroad would have some pretty good options. Japanese is a bitch to learn for native English-speakers.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:31 PM (0mRoj)

213 No one should be made to feel threatened or harassed simply because of who they are or for what they believe.

Unless who they are or what they believe is contrary to what we are and what we believe, in which case such people should not only be threatened and harassed, they should be violently attacked and kept off our campuses.

Because we strongly believe in free speech -- but only for people who think exactly like us!

Posted by: U.C. regents at September 10, 2017 01:31 PM (BXf9o)

214 I pray this is a tactic among the Right to speak and then let the Marxists/AntiFa throw violence around then plan another speech somewhere else. Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Yolanda Amadeo at September 10, 2017 01:32 PM (XFue2)

215 We have water, food, and no threat of flooding for us. So we're doing as well as can be expected.

Local bar sent a message to son's Farcebook that they're open for bidness and have football on their TVs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (PY9jH)

Oh good to hear. That bar owner is pure genius.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:33 PM (Enq6K)

216 There was just a handful of us in the hurricane thread and it felt lonely. So I came here.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:33 PM (PY9jH)

217 >>I see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's
shoes again. Have any of these people ever mentally graduated from
junior high?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (auHtY)

Is this still from her Texas trips or something new?

Posted by: Tami
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She should wear pink flamingo slippers for her future trips to Florida.

Posted by: Aviator at September 10, 2017 01:34 PM (/Nite)

218 I'm sure things haven't changed that much in nearly 40 yesrs in the USAF, you sign up and know your job description straight away, there must be language specialists.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 01:34 PM (pPKG5)

219 207 I moved twice in the space of four months. By gum if the County Election Board wasn't on top of this without me giving them any notice. They must get this info from the post office. Within a month each time they sent me my new voting card.It's amazing how exacting they can be when they put their minds to it.
Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (7m3t

CA sucks at that. My son was registered to vote here in CA while he was registered where he went to college. I went to the clerks office and told them he's registered in another state. She told me when he registers to vote in another state they will remove him from the CA rolls. They obviously didn't. I had to go back and argue with them some more with his voter registration card thing they send you in the mail. I went there 2 times.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:35 PM (Ri/rl)

220 I have been popping in to the hurricane thread to see what people are reporting

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 01:35 PM (pPKG5)

221
216 There was just a handful of us in the hurricane thread and it felt lonely. So I came here.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:33 PM (PY9jH)

You stay safe my friend, prayers up for everyone.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:35 PM (Ri/rl)

222 216 There was just a handful of us in the hurricane thread and it felt lonely. So I came here.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:33 PM (PY9jH)

Put your feet up and stay awhile! I missed the hurricane thread entirely. The gray skies and gentle rainfall caused me to sleep late.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:35 PM (0mRoj)

223 Off sock

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (XFue2)

224 We had some Naples refugees at church this morning.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (LTHVh)

225 Democrats: Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (398bZ)

226 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore. Wait for the criticism and troll their asses.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (vChNs)

227 No one should be made to feel threatened or harassed simply because of who they are or for what they believe.
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Unless of course you are one of the designated hate groups:

1. Republican
2. Conservative
3. White
4. Male
5. Christian
6. Employed
7. Straight

Mix and match as needed.

For example, you can attack a nun, even though she's female, because she's Catholic and could be considered employed.

But you can't attack a half black straight guy, because "half black."

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (aT+Bx)

228 Or... no one did! Could be he went to the polls, and they wouldn't let him vote because he was listed as someone who got an absentee ballot!!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:22 PM (Pz4pT)

He was in CA, if someone voted at a polling place in his name, it was someone that knew he was in CA. His absentee ballot never arrived here or the election officials wouldn't send it out of state.
At the time he was going back and forth if he wanted to work for us or get a different job. ( We made him start at the bottom, that was tough for a college grad).
Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:28 PM (Ri/rl)

I see! So there's no chance he went to the polling place in person himself...

Hmm, that is a mystery then. I do wonder how he found out.

Really, it seems our whole voting system is so ripe for fraud, and we've taken it for granted for decades.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:37 PM (Pz4pT)

229 224 We had some Naples refugees at church this morning.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (LTHVh)

Pizza party!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:37 PM (0mRoj)

230 202 But I do not remember a lot of coddling from the
teacher. Even then we were expected to work things out.
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I'm old so went to K in the dark ages. Two teachers, am and pm classes, 75 kids per class. Kindergarden was a pretty new concept back then. Can anyone even imagine the trauma? /s
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:27 PM (MIKMs)
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I had no idea kindergarten was ever an all day thing. Mine was just afternoons. And 75 kids?! Even with 2 teachers that had to be zoo. Trying to imagine it, and laughing.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:37 PM (iMDvh)

231 226 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore. Wait for the criticism and troll their asses.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (vChNs)

It would be funny! But Melania could wear a potato sack, belted in the middle and still look fantastic.

I hate her....jk/jk

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:37 PM (Enq6K)

232 Birds just recovered a muffed punt, already up 7 -0 over the Skins

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (pPKG5)

233 226 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore. Wait for the criticism and troll their asses.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (vChNs)

And she'd still look damn good.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (0mRoj)

234 Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (SIY7D)
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Not a zoomie, but tell him to make sure his rating (or whatever the AF calls one's job) is spelled out in the contract.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (qJtVm)

235 see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's shoes again. Have
any of these people ever mentally graduated from junior high?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2017 01:14 PM (auHtY)
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Some fashion magazine (Vanity Fair? Vogue?) put out their annual best-dressed list. Guess what? Michelle Obama was on it but not Melania Trump.

Terrifying.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (MIKMs)

236
BTW, the Sonobi situation may be resolved shortly.

It's located in Florida. IYKWIM...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (4DCSq)

237 Posted by: buzzsaw90 at September 10, 2017 01:36 PM (vChNs)

It would be funny! But Melania could wear a potato sack, belted in the middle and still look fantastic.

I hate her....jk/jk
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:37 PM (Enq6K)

Mee-YOW!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (0mRoj)

238 I'm old so went to K in the dark ages. Two teachers, am and pm classes, 75 kids per class. Kindergarden was a pretty new concept back then. Can anyone even imagine the trauma? /s
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:27 PM (MIKMs)
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Uh...are you sure you kids weren't pulling shifts in a factory?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:39 PM (qJtVm)

239 CaliGirl made reference to the idea that the Left and mental disorders tend to come together. Not to worry, this will change. As someone else stated: psychiatrists are removing certain mental problems from the list of disorders. After some number of disorders are delisted, new disorders will be diagnosed: Conservative Disorder; Belief in God Disorder; Anti-abortion Disorder; etc. You will begin to realize that the Right and mental disorders tend to come together.

Posted by: French Jeton at September 10, 2017 01:40 PM (WMvHw)

240 A gentle reminder: you have a choice in all of this.

You don't have to provide everything she needs and the help she expects. Many parents have found that, in the long run, that providing everything for their adult children has been harmful to them in the long term.

Posted by: shibumi
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True that - but it took me too long to realize it. My SD lives with me, was 'with her', a failed lesbian, college dropout, predator of young confused women, lazy layabout and a rather unhappy sort. In the past, I made it too easy for her.

I've carried her for a long time but my patience has now reached an end. I don't drag strange women back to my house at all hours so I sure as hell won't allow her to. Pisses her off. I've made it known she is out in Feb. I've given her all the tools she needs to live on her own. But nothing I do will force her to grow up and be an adult unless she is gone and living on her own.

She's PO'd with my natural sons for making something of themselves by working their asses off after the death of their mother.

Tough noogies Babe - if you don't like it go live with your Dad in ass-end OH where you will double the number of teeth in the county when you show up. Let's see how far that almost finished Women's Studies degree takes you there.

Hmmmmm. . . . I'm madder about this than I thought.

I need to go Confession. Poop.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2017 01:40 PM (tr2D7)

241 238 I'm old so went to K in the dark ages. Two teachers, am and pm classes, 75 kids per class. Kindergarden was a pretty new concept back then. Can anyone even imagine the trauma? /s
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:27 PM (MIKMs)
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Uh...are you sure you kids weren't pulling shifts in a factory?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:39 PM (qJtVm)

That would explain why arts and crafts always involved sewing machines.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:40 PM (0mRoj)

242 Okay, which one of you morons lives in Key West?

https://tinyurl.com/ybqadnfd

Florida Man(TM)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:40 PM (PY9jH)

243 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore. Wait for the criticism and troll their asses.
--

Can someone PLEASE tweet this towards Trump?

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:40 PM (aT+Bx)

244
Tornado:
My smartphone automagically alerts me when a tornado watch (tornado conditions favorable) goes to warning (tornado spotted). Nice little calm, reassuring message about taking shelter immediately.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 10, 2017 01:41 PM (EgwCt)

245 Took me over 26 years, five notifications to, and moving/registering to vote in three different States to get Pennsylvania to drop me from the voter rolls from being a teenager and registering prior to a Navy career.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2017 01:41 PM (EyPfd)

246 There is a small corner gone from Sono_ _ logo, hope their building is leveled.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 01:41 PM (pPKG5)

247 >>>You do realize that the ads you see are driven by data mining your Internet search history, right?<<<

If we can't steal your money, we will break you or shame you. Ya?

Imagine what kinds of cringeworthy ads the ewok gets.

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2017 01:42 PM (D0riW)

248 206 Military enlisted advice request.

Young man a couple of years out of college thinking of joining the US Air Force to serve country and come out with a career. Fluent in Japanese. Has worked abroad in Japan and Ireland.

Good idea? Can you rely on USAF promises?

Is a fiancee / soon wife a complication?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 01:29 PM (SIY7D)

******

How old and how much college?
May be eligible for Officer Candidate School.

Needs to go to a recruiter and ensure he can pass the physical and take the ASVAB test to see what he qualifies for.
Being able to speak Japanese is a plus and something all the Services would be interested in. Make sure the recruiter gets him into the language test too. This takes extra effort by the recruiter so he needs to insist on this. If the AF guy won't do it go see the Army. They all need linguists in the Intelligence fields. (My job for 20 years).

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2017 01:42 PM (0tfLf)

249 The media are wasting their Mean Girl tactics on Melania.... she is from the part of the world where Mean Girl Syndrome came from (though I'd say the women of Mother Russia could probably give them all lessons) and an industry (modeling) full of Mean Girls and gay men, who are the biggest bitches of all.

Did the Pussy Bow teach them nothing???

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 10, 2017 01:42 PM (yE+j4)

250 Really, it seems our whole voting system is so ripe for fraud, and we've taken it for granted for decades.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:37 PM (Pz4pT)

I asked my son, there is a website that you can check. Someone else turned in or mailed his absentee ballot.
That's why he asked me if I received it. i was offended he would think I would do that.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:43 PM (Ri/rl)

251 sorry tonypete

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 01:43 PM (0UNFT)

252 Tornado:

My smartphone automagically alerts me when a tornado watch (tornado
conditions favorable) goes to warning (tornado spotted). Nice little
calm, reassuring message about taking shelter immediately.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 10, 2017 01:41 PM (EgwCt)

Ours, too. Last year during TS Hermoine (or however the hell you spell it), at 5:05 a.m. there was a sudden, violent storm that popped up. Tornado siren didn't go off, and neither did our cellphones. A tornado dropped down on our island and cut a mile-long path across it, damaging and destroying several homes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:44 PM (PY9jH)

253 233 226 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore.
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And she'd still look damn good.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (0mRoj)

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Heh. ISWYDT.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:44 PM (iMDvh)

254 Hmmm....Shep has waaaaay too much knowledge about the Florida keys.

Gosh...I wonder why.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:44 PM (Enq6K)

255 Did the Pussy Bow teach them nothing???
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 10, 2017 01:42 PM (yE+j4)

Many a ruined man has been made to do the pussy bow. More like a grovel, actually.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:44 PM (0mRoj)

256 Insomniac, where in FL are you from?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 10, 2017 01:45 PM (PUmDY)

257 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore. Wait for the criticism and troll their asses.
_______________

She could wear the same design from the same designer, but in a different color.

Then wait to see how long before the O-worshipping leftists trash her terrible sense of style, her outrageous over-spending on her clothes, etc.

Then have Trump tweet out pics of Michelle in the exact same outfit, different color, with all the lefties' insults printed under it.

Would be pretty funny.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2017 01:45 PM (BXf9o)

258 What should Melania wear to a flood zone but pumps?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 10, 2017 01:46 PM (oVJmc)

259 >>Took me over 26 years, five notifications to, and
moving/registering to vote in three different States to get Pennsylvania
to drop me from the voter rolls from being a teenager and registering
prior to a Navy career.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

I'm sure the local Democratic party was sorry to lose you, having been a solid democratic voter for 26 years.

Posted by: Aviator at September 10, 2017 01:46 PM (/Nite)

260 250 Really, it seems our whole voting system is so ripe for fraud, and we've taken it for granted for decades.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 01:37 PM (Pz4pT)

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Hillary has already kicked off the campaign to rid us of the "godforsaken Electoral College". That happens, and it is dems & progressives in power forever...JMO.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:46 PM (iMDvh)

261
Hmmm....Shep has waaaaay too much knowledge about the Florida keys.

Gosh...I wonder why.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 01:44 PM (Enq6K)

He's quite familiar with South Beach, as well. I'm sorely disappointed Fox didn't send him to Tampa. I'd pay good money to see him standing along the sea wall when the water rushes back into Tampa Bay.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:47 PM (PY9jH)

262 239 CaliGirl made reference to the idea that the Left and mental disorders tend to come together. Not to worry, this will change. As someone else stated: psychiatrists are removing certain mental problems from the list of disorders. After some number of disorders are delisted, new disorders will be diagnosed: Conservative Disorder; Belief in God Disorder; Anti-abortion Disorder; etc. You will begin to realize that the Right and mental disorders tend to come together.
Posted by: French Jeton at September 10, 2017 01:40 PM (WMvHw)

I also think it's not healthy for semi famous people to talk about mental illness to raise awareness. Demi Lovato is bilpolar, all the cool kids have that. Or they will want to have it.
I just don't think it's healthy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 10, 2017 01:47 PM (Ri/rl)

263 Hmmmmm. . . . I'm madder about this than I thought.

I need to go Confession. Poop.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2017 01:40
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It's OK to be angry.

My Dad was an ex Marine, and was really big on personal responsibility. HUGE. Tough love.

As in "if you get your @ss thrown in jail, don't call me, I'm not bailing you out." Mom was more understanding.

BTW... never did any of those things I was warned about (I suppose jail/pregnant/drugs were the big ones) and now live a quiet, respectable life.

Did I make some bad choices? Hell yes. Mostly they were in relation to my career path; however, they did enable me to do other things, like actively help both parents through horrible, long lasting illnesses. So even the horrible bad choices had upsides.

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:47 PM (aT+Bx)

264 What about Ben Shapiro's sense of safety and belonging?

What about what Ben Shapiro believes?

Posted by: DavidD at September 10, 2017 01:47 PM (xbnMZ)

265 Being able to speak Japanese is a plus and something all the Services would be interested in. Make sure the recruiter gets him into the language test too. This takes extra effort by the recruiter so he needs to insist on this. If the AF guy won't do it go see the Army. They all need linguists in the Intelligence fields. (My job for 20 years).
Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2017 01:42 PM (0tfLf)
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Yes, take the DLAB (Defense Language Aptitude Battery), in which you attempt to puzzle out a made-up language based on recognizable patterns:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Language_
Aptitude_Battery

Way, way back when I took it, I saw that it was based on Russian and aced it (I had just taken Russian in HS). It has evolved over the years, I'm sure.

And then you too can join what we current and ex-Squids call "The Air Force Mafia".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:48 PM (qJtVm)

266 Young man a couple of years out of college thinking of joining the US Air Force to serve country and come out with a career. Fluent in Japanese. Has worked abroad in Japan and Ireland.

Good idea? Can you rely on USAF promises?

Is a fiancee / soon wife a complication?
Posted by: Ignoramus
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AF recruiters will give him an enlistment contract in writing as long as he qualifies for the specific spot through testing. My son qualified for Nuke school in the Navy but opted for missiles instead. It was all in the contract. It's not like the old days where a real bright kid will get stuck in the galley. Still still, 'needs of the Navy' (or AF) is rule number one.

There are enlistment bonuses too for certain specialties. They also will be guaranteed in the contract but he has to qualify.

Have him check it out.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2017 01:48 PM (tr2D7)

267 Uh...are you sure you kids weren't pulling shifts in a factory? Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:3! 9 PM (qJtVm)
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LOL! My big trauma was being all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and being sent home in disgrace because I read the instructions out loud to the other kids at the table. My parents were chastised for 'pushing ahead' (huh? you try to keep a kid down on the farm). Lifelong cynicism for education and deep respect for those 2 ladies with 75 kids per class who kept order and managed to do colors, shapes, and dressing for outside time in subzero weather.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2017 01:49 PM (MIKMs)

268 "That is a complete fallacy. It CANNOT happen. Our species is confined to two genders, male and female."

Not to mention that every cell in your body knows whether you're male or female. Never seems to get mentioned.

Posted by: artemis at September 10, 2017 01:49 PM (AwPyG)

269 Birds up 14 - 0 over Skins

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 01:49 PM (pPKG5)

270 the administration's concern for people's "sense of safety and belonging"

For safety they need straight-jackets and helmets, and they belong in psych wards.

That should cover it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2017 01:49 PM (rZ+mb)

271 Many a ruined man has been made to do the pussy bow. More like a grovel, actually.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:44 PM (0mRoj)

I prefer a nice crawl, make him work for it....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 10, 2017 01:49 PM (yE+j4)

272 256 Insomniac, where in FL are you from?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 10, 2017 01:45 PM (PUmDY)

For OpSec purposes I'll just say I'm in Orange County.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 01:50 PM (0mRoj)

273 As someone else stated: psychiatrists are removing certain mental
problems from the list of disorders. After some number of disorders are
delisted, new disorders will be diagnosed: Conservative Disorder; Belief
in God Disorder; Anti-abortion Disorder; etc. You will begin to realize
that the Right and mental disorders tend to come together.
--

This won't be as bad as you imagine.

I work in live entertainment, and also spent 15 years working part time in local tv. You were harassed and belittled if people found out you were conservative. So you didn't talk about it. It's not as hard as you think and you get used to it. Hiding your disorder won't be hard.

As for belief in God disorder... yeah, I'm pretty sure the churches will bitch about that, so that one may be the last to appear.

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:50 PM (aT+Bx)

274 Hillary has already kicked off the campaign to rid us of the "godforsaken Electoral College".

Yeah I don't think that's going anywhere with that kind of sore loser image behind it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (39g3+)

275 Birds just recovered a muffed punt, already up 7 -0 over the Skins

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 01:38 PM (pPKG5)

I had the best of intentions of boycotting the iggles, but none of their players have engaged in any unpatriotic activities, and I hate the Washington Redskins so the boycott only lasted fifteen minutes into the season.

Birds 13-0

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (EgwCt)

276 243 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore. Wait for the criticism and troll their asses.
--

Can someone PLEASE tweet this towards Trump?
Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:40 PM (aT+Bx)

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I think they would just call her a copycat of Michelle...and go with that angle.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (iMDvh)

277 If these silly kids need counseling because someone with whom they disagree is speaking on their campus - they are too immature for college or employment!

Go home and grow up silly kids!

Posted by: Lily at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (5Rl8X)

278 It's actually a pleasant enough day so far. Breezy, cool, and rainy. Perfect for being inside watching football.

The bar is well-stocked, and Imonna cook the frozen hamburger patties and tots for dinner. I hadn't stocked the kitchen with much because we thought we'd be in Atlanta. We'll survive on what I have in the freezer and pantry.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (PY9jH)

279
The bar is well-stocked, and Imonna cook the frozen hamburger patties and tots for dinner. I hadn't stocked the kitchen with much because we thought we'd be in Atlanta. We'll survive on what I have in the freezer and pantry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (PY9jH)
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Hamburgers and tots are THE BEST!

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 01:53 PM (Sfs6o)

280 Dead Sirius channel has some great Europe 72 {Paris 5/3) music going on

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 10, 2017 01:53 PM (PUmDY)

281 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 01:48 PM (qJtVm)

Young lady....you blew the margins...again!

Once more and you are grounded. And no internet for a week!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2017 01:54 PM (wYseH)

282 I have been dreading and Birds going BLM, yes so far not.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 01:54 PM (pPKG5)

283
I do remember laughing when he told me someone voted in his place

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THEY SAY THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 10, 2017 01:54 PM (IqV8l)

284 Really amazing to me that anyone still watches NFL at all. I swear Roger Goodall could show up and rhythmically kick some people in the nuts to the tune of "Are You Ready For Football" and they'd pay him for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 01:54 PM (39g3+)

285 Adorno's Authoritarian Personality? oh yeah, being rightist is on track to being a medical condition

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 01:54 PM (0UNFT)

286 >>I see the MFM is all in a tissy over Melania Trump's shoes again. Have
any of these people ever mentally graduated from junior high?

Huh. The main female character in Jurassic World wore heels through the whole movie as an expression of grrrl power or something. Bryce Dallas Howard insisted on this.

Melania being a former model who looks good in everything must kill the MSM - how do we criticize her after lauding Michelle's fashion and grace?!?! Oh, that's it, let's say she deploys in inappropriately. Except...we all saw Michelle in yoga pants at public events (Let's Move) and the flowered dress at at somber military event, and the shorts on AF1, and ......

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2017 01:54 PM (W+vEI)

287 Hamburgers and tots are THE BEST!

Posted by: Weasel at September 10, 2017 01:53 PM (Sfs6o)

Pizza, ping-pong, and tots are great, too.

Posted by: John Podesta at September 10, 2017 01:55 PM (EgwCt)

288 Pepsi was mocking the new rules allowing for end zone celebrations just now

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 01:55 PM (0UNFT)

289 that sonobi ad is infringing on my right to see everything.

--
I do not believe they are tone deaf at all, I believe it is a continued plan too stifle the rest of us, while teaching the little kids how to play by as ace says 'crybullying'

I just can't believe anyone is that offended . it's all an act. to shut everyone else up, and have the left shove insane ideas down our kids throats.

it should be child abuse , keeping all the kids terrified but it's now called an education.

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 01:55 PM (FKrah)

290 I see how it is. A shiny new thread pops up and everyone abandons the library. Heathens.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 10, 2017 01:55 PM (vbvxt)

291 Hamburgers and tots are THE BEST!
Posted by: Weasel

Just made a tot casserole for lunch. Damn it's good

Posted by: Bruce at September 10, 2017 01:56 PM (8ikIW)

292 274 Hillary has already kicked off the campaign to rid us of the "godforsaken Electoral College".

Yeah I don't think that's going anywhere with that kind of sore loser image behind it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (39g3+)

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I hope you are right, but I don't have a good feeling about it. Ever since the election, there has been a drumbeat about her popular vote & EC being about slavery.

The Dems are nothing if not persistent & good at changing the national conversation. That's how we got here. Combine with the Tech oligarchies & SJWs & college indoctrination...I could see it happening.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 01:56 PM (iMDvh)

293 Doesn't one of those stupid magazines have a Who Wore It Better section?

Just a suggestion

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2017 01:56 PM (EyPfd)

294 GGE, I would loved to have moved into that library.
forever.
just order food out.

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 01:56 PM (FKrah)

295 GGE, I would loved to have moved into that library.
forever.
just order food out.
Posted by: willow

Sorry, sign says No Eating or Drinking in the Library

Posted by: Bruce at September 10, 2017 01:58 PM (8ikIW)

296 smacks stuck screen

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 01:58 PM (FKrah)

297 Pepsi was mocking the new rules allowing for end zone celebrations just now
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at September 10, 2017 01:55 PM (0UNFT)

What in the actual fuck, they're allowing it now?

I remember when they were told to act like they'd been there before.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 10, 2017 01:59 PM (yE+j4)

298 One would think that the administration's concern for people's "sense of safety and belonging" would extend to those speakers whose beliefs were stifled, violently in many cases. Where is Ben Shapiro's counselor? Where is Ann Coulter's therapist? They should buy Milo Yiannopoulos an "emotional support" dog!

Silly. Everyone knows that conservatives don't have feelings.

Posted by: UCB at September 10, 2017 01:59 PM (/qEW2)

299 Bruce, well everyone else would have to leave. forever.
I am appropriating all the good stuff, because it's my right as a poor wee lass, never given anything for free.

my turn.

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 01:59 PM (FKrah)

300 There are enlistment bonuses too for certain specialties. They also will be guaranteed in the contract but he has to qualify.

Have him check it out.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 10, 2017 01:48 PM (

*****

Good point by Tonypete. Check all the Services about bonuses. They will vary.
Also, even without the language, consider any Intelligence job. They require a Top Secret clearance and assuming he can get that, its worth a lot when he gets out and looks for work in the civilian sector.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2017 02:00 PM (0tfLf)

301
Twenty five year olds can be quite a handful.

Posted by: John Podesta at September 10, 2017 02:00 PM (EgwCt)

302 This won't be as bad as you imagine.

I work in live entertainment, and also spent 15 years working part time in local tv. You were harassed and belittled if people found out you were conservative. So you didn't talk about it. It's not as hard as you think and you get used to it. Hiding your disorder won't be hard.

As for belief in God disorder... yeah, I'm pretty sure the churches will bitch about that, so that one may be the last to appear.
Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 01:50 PM (aT+Bx)

I'm "in the closet" where I work. It doesn't get much worse, in terms of groupthink, auto-leftism. So yeah, it's possible to navigate it, without giving one's self away.

One way is to point out individual hypocrisies when they occur, and use their own words against them. Politics is so far removed... probably because they just assume everyone shares their political view.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2017 02:00 PM (Pz4pT)

303 Silly. Everyone knows that conservatives aren't human.

FIFY.

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2017 02:00 PM (aT+Bx)

304 Young lady....you blew the margins...again!

Once more and you are grounded. And no internet for a week!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2017 01:54 PM (wYseH)
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Sorry!

*kicks dirt*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 02:01 PM (qJtVm)

305 There's a silly plan to end-run the Electoral College with state laws allocating electors by the national vote. There are several reasons this is unconstitutional. Won't happen,

The Ds attack the EC to discredit winners like Bush and Trump.

Hillary also uses it as one of her 69 excuses for why she lost.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:01 PM (SIY7D)

306 GGE, I would loved to have moved into that library.

forever.

just order food out.

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 01:56 PM (FKrah)

I'm still remodeling my library. Mrs Hades painted the part of the floor where the bookshelves will go but eventually we are going to relocate (build, rather) the hall and close in the wall that opens to the back of the house. Then we will pick out the actual flooring.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 10, 2017 02:01 PM (vbvxt)

307 Thanks for the advice above about joining the USAF.

I'll pass it on.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:01 PM (SIY7D)

308 This nonsense on campuses has got to stop. Did someone not say "that which cannot continue, won't?" Well I want to know when that is coming? This is like the emperors new clothes. All those stupid administrators on campuses are so afraid for their silly unimportant jobs, they will go along with and think up more of the most outrageous stunts possible. And act like they think it all makes sense (or perhaps they actually believe it?)

Posted by: AnnaS at September 10, 2017 02:02 PM (l4l/z)

309 GGE, I love projects. unfortunately I've been to broketo do stuff.

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 02:02 PM (FKrah)

310 Really amazing to me that anyone still watches NFL at all.
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I miss the rituals around football. *sigh* It has been years since I've watched...not the same.

Sometimes I stumble across a PeeWee football game & it is a hoot. The kids...yes. But more the fathers. It is hilarious. Suddenly these powerful men in business are at loose ends trying to teach the kids. I laugh just thinking about some of the facial expressions. Total exasperation.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 02:03 PM (iMDvh)

311
Ever since the election, there has been a drumbeat about her popular vote & EC being about slavery.

What ISN'T about slavery?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2017 02:03 PM (IqV8l)

312 Fuck the left.

Next.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at September 10, 2017 02:04 PM (jWe5r)

313 I don't get attacking Melania. You can't mock a beautiful and classy woman without looking retarded.

The likes of JLaw, however, say stupid things because they want the attention. But that's certainly not Melania.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:04 PM (SIY7D)

314
This nonsense on campuses has got to stop. Did someone not say "that which cannot continue, won't?" Well I want to know when that is coming?

Probably around the same time as the oft mentioned "backlash."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2017 02:05 PM (IqV8l)

315 201 >>Yes; but since I do not speak Spanish, have no
interest in gay couples, and keep my computer locked, I am at a loss as
to where they are getting that data.

Posted by: mustbequantum

You might want to check with Bob at NSA. He got the weekend shift.

Posted by: RI Red - making another list at September 10, 2017 02:06 PM (jkUQi)

316 GGE, I love projects. unfortunately I've been to broketo do stuff.

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 02:02 PM (FKrah)

That's why we're doing it in stages. Also, it's so nice having a wife that works at an actual paying job (this in no way denigrates stay at home moms, bless them all, but we have no children at home) because she's financing all the home improvements.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 10, 2017 02:06 PM (vbvxt)

317 my turn.
Posted by: willow
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Great heavens, miss! You have virtually owned the New Thread keys for, what, years now? How privileged do you want to be?

Posted by: Mike Hammer's Cat at September 10, 2017 02:07 PM (9tO1t)

318 One would think that the administration's concern for people's "sense of safety and belonging" would extend to those speakers whose beliefs were stifled, violently in many cases. Where is Ben Shapiro's counselor? Where is Ann Coulter's therapist? They should buy Milo Yiannopoulos an "emotional support" dog!

They don't need therapists or "emotional support" dogs. They are not emotional basketcases. Everyone knows this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2017 02:07 PM (rZ+mb)

319 Young lady....you blew the margins...again!

*****

Just got here. What have I missed?

Posted by: Margins at September 10, 2017 02:07 PM (0tfLf)

320 >>>Where is Ann Coulter's therapist?<<<

I would imagine Ann Coulter's therapist is drinking moonshine straight from the spigot. I'd be willing to sacrifice my spare pocket change to find out what is going on in her noodle.

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2017 02:07 PM (D0riW)

321 *slaps uppity cat away from keyboard*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2017 02:08 PM (9tO1t)

322 Hurricanes can be an interesting education in how history repeats.

The 1935 Labor Day Hurricane was possibly the most powerful to make US landfall and wiped out the Florida Keys. It wasn't as built-up then, with a boat in every back yard.

But Global Warming!

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:08 PM (SIY7D)

323
GGE, cool beans, may you create a sanctuary that makes the world disappear when you need it to.

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 02:08 PM (FKrah)

324 *kicks dirt*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 10, 2017 02:01 PM (qJtVm)

Heh....

The problem is on phones and tablets and other small screens. And since that is a rapidly expanding segment of Ace's audience, I think we will have to figure out something to do about it.

I mean besides drinking Valu-Rite and skinning hobos....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 10, 2017 02:08 PM (wYseH)

325 "Young man a couple of years out of college thinking of joining the US
Air Force to serve country and come out with a career. Fluent in
Japanese. Has worked abroad in Japan and Ireland."

USAF? How are his putting skills? Good with a nine iron?

Posted by: torquewrench at September 10, 2017 02:09 PM (ujwCG)

326 Pigpen was pretty great

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 10, 2017 02:09 PM (PUmDY)

327 kitty cat? o sure,continuously typing/chatting to a empty room is great on my ego.

I shower,shave my legs and everything!

Posted by: willow at September 10, 2017 02:11 PM (FKrah)

328
I'm amused by reporters standing in the street, telling us how horrible conditions are. I mean the guy is standing there with a microphone yakking. Oh, the horror!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2017 02:11 PM (9tO1t)

329 "USAF? How are his putting skills? Good with a nine iron?"

Doesn't think golf is a sport. He was good with an epee.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:11 PM (SIY7D)

330 308 This nonsense on campuses has got to stop. Did someone not say "that which cannot continue, won't?" Well I want to know when that is coming? This is like the emperors new clothes. All those stupid administrators on campuses are so afraid for their silly unimportant jobs, they will go along with and think up more of the most outrageous stunts possible. And act like they think it all makes sense (or perhaps they actually believe it?)
Posted by: AnnaS at September 10, 2017 02:02 PM (l4l/z)

*****

I'm really tempted to go down and enroll in college. Then when a class gets cancelled because of this BS, sue the ones who disrupt and the University for letting them. Afterall, I paid for that seat.
One good legal win will bring the adults back into the room.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 10, 2017 02:12 PM (0tfLf)

331 USAF? How are his putting skills? Good with a nine iron?
Posted by: torquewrench
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Comfortable in Bermuda shorts? Play tennis?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2017 02:12 PM (9tO1t)

332 313 I don't get attacking Melania. You can't mock a beautiful and classy woman without looking retarded.

The likes of JLaw, however, say stupid things because they want the attention. But that's certainly not Melania.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:04 PM (SIY7D)

Indeed. See for example the picture of Melania hugging the little girl in Texas. You can't fake that kind of human warmth.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 02:12 PM (0mRoj)

333 325 "Young man a couple of years out of college thinking of joining the US
Air Force to serve country and come out with a career. Fluent in
Japanese. Has worked abroad in Japan and Ireland."

USAF? How are his putting skills? Good with a nine iron?
Posted by: torquewrench at September 10, 2017 02:09 PM (ujwCG)

How's he feel about mani-pedis?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 02:13 PM (0mRoj)

334 Indeed. See for example the picture of Melania hugging the little girl in Texas. You can't fake that kind of human warmth.
Posted by: Insomniac

Then you've never seen Hillary hugging a commode after Happy Hour(s)

Posted by: Bruce at September 10, 2017 02:14 PM (8ikIW)

335 I'm amused by reporters standing in the street, telling us how horrible conditions are. I mean the guy is standing there with a microphone yakking. Oh, the horror!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2017 02:11 PM (9tO1t)

As yet no one has matched Steve Harrigan during some hurricane. He was standing outside giving a report and some massive winds hit....signs went flying by and Steve could barely stand up.

"Whooooooooaaaaaa!.....whoooooooooaaaaaa!"

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 02:14 PM (Enq6K)

336 Melania should wear some exact same hideous outfit that Michelle Obama wore. Wait for the criticism and troll their asses.

Posted by: buzzsaw90

Cultural appropriation. Also an admission that she has no fashion sense and must steal ideas from those more glamorous than she is.

Posted by: Vogue at September 10, 2017 02:14 PM (/qEW2)

337 Pigpen was pretty great

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 10, 2017 02:09 PM (PUmDY)

Never knew you were a fan of freemason cypher or cryptography in general

Posted by: Kindltot at September 10, 2017 02:14 PM (Gv+zt)

338 If you follow LegalInsurrection and its offshoot College Insurrection you can read how some of these Leftist Seminaries enrollments are way down by double digits

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 02:14 PM (pPKG5)

339 In ONT content last night, there was a fun list of Logical Fallacies.

I swear, it is all we hear from politicIans & media. Logic & reason have taken a holiday.

Anyway...here's the linky.

http://tinyurl.com/y74p5yu7

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 02:14 PM (iMDvh)

340 329 "USAF? How are his putting skills? Good with a nine iron?"

Doesn't think golf is a sport. He was good with an epee.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:11 PM (SIY7D)

Cool. I fenced epee and saber.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2017 02:16 PM (0mRoj)

341 329 "USAF? How are his putting skills? Good with a nine iron?"
Doesn't think golf is a sport. He was good with an epee.

Jeez, have him go to OCS. They give you an actual sword. Or join the marines. I think they still give you bayonet training.

Posted by: RI Red - making another list at September 10, 2017 02:16 PM (jkUQi)

342 I need a service animal too. A big powerful service animal with sharp teeth, that will defend me from masked cretins attacking me in the street.

A dog that will bite things that suck.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 10, 2017 02:16 PM (t5m5e)

343 Pic from Labor Day hurricane, 1935 http://tinyurl.com/yakd4soc

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2017 02:16 PM (9tO1t)

344 When I was in kindergarten there were two wooden framed sandboxes right outside the classroom. We played with metal pails, shovels, and Tonka trucks. I'm sure today this would be considered toxic, terribly unhealthy, and stupendously dangerous. My teacher was elderly and handled 30 plus kids without any help or a whit of trouble.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 02:16 PM (7m3t8)

345 Sure hope Ace is being paid a pretty packet for that more than annoying blue and yellow Sonobi square that butts in on every post.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 10, 2017 12:40 PM (7m3t

I never see it. Pale Moon browser, NoScript, and AdBlock latitude.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2017 02:17 PM (EkNES)

346 A dog that will bite things that suck.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 10, 2017 02:16 PM (t5m5e)

Hoover vacuum cleaners and Shep Smith hardest ~~hit~~ bit.

Posted by: RickZ at September 10, 2017 02:19 PM (I1cfI)

347 Where's my service animal? It's very distressing to have to report on lie after lie after lie coming from this president.

Posted by: Shep Smith at September 10, 2017 02:20 PM (U1P8I)

348 The problem with joining the USAF is that they are an old force in terms of their capital equipment. They simply must recapitalize with new aircraft. They're on the hook for massive new expenditures in the coming years.

The shopping list is lengthy. The F-35 Faceplant that still hasn't been bought in quantity. "Penetrating Counter Air", the F-35 successor. B-21, the B-2 heavy stealth bomber successor. New tankers. Probably new AWACS and JSTARS.

Plus, paying the refurbishment bill for parts of the existing air wings which simply can't be allowed to stop flying because USAF would collapse without them. The KC-135 tankers are scheduled to be kept in service till 2050! Some of those had service entry when Eisenhower was President.

The brass really have no idea how to make the nut on any of it.

There's a lot of handwaving and pettifogging about how, well, at the end of the day, the Congress will realize that America needs an Air Force and will pony up.

They won't get all the money they think they'll get. And the shortfall will come out of the hides of USAF service members. It's already started. Maintainers are being run ragged and are retiring early. Pilots are bailing to the airlines as fast as they can.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 10, 2017 02:20 PM (ujwCG)

349 I want an emotional support tapir. I need a lot of support.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 10, 2017 02:22 PM (Gv+zt)

350 Pretty killer Sing Me Back Home from this show.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 10, 2017 02:22 PM (PUmDY)

351 Nood beat down

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2017 02:22 PM (Enq6K)

352

A Cornell University fraternity is being pressured into apologizing, and may even face disciplinary sanctions, after one its members was overheard chanting “build a wall.”

According to The Cornell Daily Sun, members of the school’s Zeta Psi chapter were overheard chanting phrases about “building a wall” and later about “building a wall around the Latino Living Center (LLC),” residents of which initially heard and filed complaints about the remarks.

Meanwhile, La Asociación Latina (LAL) published a statement condemning the comments, saying the LLC community was already under “a lot of duress” following the news of President Trump’s plan to cancel the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2017 02:23 PM (IqV8l)

353 My plan to develop fencing skills was foiled.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 10, 2017 02:24 PM (9tO1t)

354 Attacking Melania is all they've got. Kind of sad.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 10, 2017 02:24 PM (PUmDY)

355 I don't understand that argument at all, and intend no sarcasm here.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 10, 2017 01:08 PM (S/hVx)

Nouns have gender. People have sexes.

In other words, the Leftists are using a term of grammar to refer to a matter which is in the sphere of biology. Intentionally to confuse the issue.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2017 02:26 PM (EkNES)

356 They should use the Bob Newhart counseling method for being upset over speeches.

"I'm going to give you a couple of words to use in these situations that will help you."

"STOP IT!"

Posted by: Meremortal at September 10, 2017 02:31 PM (3myMJ)

357 Nouns have gender. People have sexes.

In other words, the Leftists are using a term of grammar to refer to a matter which is in the sphere of biology. Intentionally to confuse the issue.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

People have sexes? Sounds a bit like an orgy.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at September 10, 2017 02:31 PM (S6Pax)

358 >>>>292 274 Hillary has already kicked off the campaign to rid us of the "godforsaken Electoral College".

Yeah I don't think that's going anywhere with that kind of sore loser image behind it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 10, 2017 01:51 PM (39g3+)

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I hope you are right, but I don't have a good feeling about it. Ever since the election, there has been a drumbeat about her popular vote & EC being about slavery.

The Dems are nothing if not persistent & good at changing the national conversation. That's how we got here. Combine with the Tech oligarchies & SJWs & college indoctrination...I could see it happening.
.
.
.
.If the dems were so good at this stuff we would have had complete and total gun confiscation long ago but we don't.

In fact pretty much the entire Country went against them in regards to gun control and other things. No Federal $15 minimum wage, more and more States with right to work laws, etc.

They keep losing big time on everything they want and have only had one big the last 15+ years.....Obamacare but that is falling apart.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 10, 2017 02:34 PM (Vz9Up)

359 Birds up 16 -14 over Skins at half, will receive in the 3rd kickoff

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 02:35 PM (pPKG5)

360 "They keep losing big time on everything they want and have only had one big the last 15+ years.....Obamacare but that is falling apart."

Yep. And on current trajectory we'll see several Deep Blue States go broke. Can't happen fast enough.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 10, 2017 02:35 PM (SIY7D)

361 Leftists are well on their way to removing the Elec College, they only need a couple of more states.

Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 02:36 PM (pPKG5)

362 A dog that will bite things that suck.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 10, 2017 02:16 PM (t5m5e)

Meet Bruno, my service grizzly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2017 02:43 PM (EkNES)

363 Upside down world.

They need protection from words,
Ben Shapiro needs protection from weapons.

Posted by: Reality Man at September 10, 2017 02:49 PM (Ch0fq)

364 It's because, from their point of view, only some people are people.

Posted by: Alana at September 10, 2017 03:00 PM (6GQqi)

365 60 "They keep losing big time on everything they want and have only had one big the last 15+ years.....Obamacare but that is falling apart."

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IMHO, the illegal immigration is a huge win. Huge.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 10, 2017 03:40 PM (iMDvh)

366 361 Leftists are well on their way to removing the Elec College, they only need a couple of more states.
Posted by: Skip at September 10, 2017 02:36 PM (pPKG5)

Dems will regret it. The GOP does not spend a lot of time in places like California and New York because they are perennially lost causes with 15 point margins. If all of the sudden shaving off 5 percent of the margin means something, the Dems will have to spend a bunch of money in former after thought states. Same is true for Republicans, but the Dems have more target rich environments to defend. Good bye large urban center hegemony?

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at September 10, 2017 03:53 PM (N9ILL)

367 The philosophy of education in the present generation becomes the philosophy of government in the next generation. - Abraham Lincoln

There really is nothing new under the sun and we know what happened during Abe's time.

Posted by: Muthaucker at September 10, 2017 05:26 PM (mUF4n)

368 We cannot end the electoral college. It gives the little states the opportunity to participate! That is why it was put in place. We have to stand up for something! Don't we? Or do we just let the libs take over?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 10, 2017 09:22 PM (l4l/z)

369 And just where do Cal Alumnus go for counseling and support re UCB's adolescent attitude towards Conservative speakers?

Posted by: Someone who din't major in history at September 10, 2017 11:21 PM (rv12I)

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