Houston: Flood Waters Fall, But Death Toll Rises as Bodies Are Discovered

The waters recede, but in doing so, they reveal the deaths they caused.

- Harvey's floodwaters started dropping across much of the Houston area and the sun came out Wednesday in a glimmer of hope for the stricken city, even as the storm doubled back toward land and pounded communities farther east, near the Texas-Louisiana line.

The scope of the devastation caused by the hurricane came into sharper focus, meanwhile, and the murky green floodwaters from the record-breaking, 4-foot deluge of rain began yielding up bodies as predicted.

The confirmed death toll climbed to 23, including six family members - four of them children - whose bodies were pulled Wednesday from a van that had been swept off a Houston bridge into a bayou.

Authorities are investigating at least 17 more deaths to determine whether they were storm-related.

Among the recent discovered bodies: an entire family of six, killed while in their van.

Officers have found the bodies of all six Houston family members who were traveling in a van when it was swept off a Houston bridge and into a storm-ravaged bayou.

Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez says the van was discovered in Green's Bayou in northeast Houston.

Gonzalez said the bodies of two adults were found in the front of the van, while the bodies of four children were found in the back.

This is a very bittersweet one: A baby was rescued. But she was rescued clinging to the dead body of her mother.


The floods are causing the volatile compounds at a chemical plant to mix. There have been two explosions so far, and more are coming. A company spokesman called the smoke from the chemical fires "noxious."

"This is not a chemical release. What we have is a fire," Richard Rennard, an executive with Arkema Inc. told reporters near the plant located about 25 miles northeast of Houston.

"Any smoke is going to be an irritant to your eyes, your lungs or potentially your skin," he added, saying the company is encouraging anyone who has been exposed to the smoke to seek medical attention.

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The plant, in Crosby, lost power Saturday amid Tropical Storm Harvey, leaving it without refrigeration for chemicals that become volatile as temperatures rise. Arkema shut down the plant before Harvey made landfall.

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Local officials said the blast sparked a 30- to 40-foot flame. People located in a 1.5 mile radius of the plant were evacuated.

Harvey is already causing flooding at the Texas/Louisiana border now. It will turn northeast to rain into the Mississippi and the Ohio River valley.

Jesse Kelly urges good citizens to give to well-behaved charities, noting that the devastation is worse than you probably think. (Though that may have changed -- certainly my eyes have been opened more about how bad it is.)

Below, some good news: The heroes.

From the Morning Briefing, this shotgun-toting former police officer is taking a stand against looters:

Texans jam-pack the highway bringing their smaller boats to Houston to assist in rescue:



Two elderly folks trapped by floodwaters called Chick-Fil-A with an odd request: Two chicken burritos and and an emergency water rescue, if you could.

Chick-Fil-A fulfilled the order.


This couple will not allow themselves to despair:


A compilation of rescues:



And a couple of dog rescues while we're at it:



One more: I'm sure you've seen this, but I have to link this Hero for telling a CNN reporterette, and Jim Acosta and his oddly darkened hair, to F*** off.

Posted by: Ace at 12:46 PM




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1 First!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 31, 2017 12:46 PM (tbOMB)

2 I can't read the stories about babies and families perishing..its too much grief for me.

Posted by: IC at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (a0IVu)

3 This is a dumb question, but where does that much water drain off to?

Posted by: josephistan at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (7HtZB)

4
Pretty proud of Texans these days. And Im not even from there.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)

5 This is a dumb question, but where does that much water drain off to?

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The Gulf.

Eventually.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)

6 "Texans always move them" Robert E. Lee

Posted by: deepred at August 31, 2017 12:50 PM (8oULY)

7 Was just on the phone with an architect here.

I don't think anyone has any way to calculate what the impact is going to be to the state. Workers, materials, displaced persons maybe never returning, banks, insurance companies--no one dodged this bullet.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2017 12:50 PM (yL25O)

8 Love the Chic-fil-et story.
Still don't like the chicken.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2017 12:50 PM (YekIg)

9 This is one of the worst disasters in my memory and I've been around for a while....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:51 PM (O2RFr)

10 Thank you, Lord for keeping my family safe.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (3Bcp6)

11 That chemical plant fire should not be poo-poohed by that idiot CEO. That is very dangerous.


And everyone of those people who died can come back and haunt the Democrat mayor.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (mpXpK)

12 The oft-praised lack of Houston zoning seems to have been less than optimal.

But it's good to see Texans of all flavors being Texans.

Frankly, if the big quake hit out here, I can't imagine doing an opensecrets search on someone's political contributions before dragging them out.

But part of me wants to say no one gets in the truck unless they raise their hand and swear they've got all their pets...

Posted by: JEM at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (TppKb)

13 This is what makes America great. For all the drama and bullshit that gets pushed in the media, the US can respond to natural disasters that would cripple other countries. And do so independently without the assistance of others. Even help other countries respond to disasters while dealing with one of our own. No race, no color, no politics. Just America.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2017 12:54 PM (pAr44)

14 Drywall futures are up $2.83.

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 31, 2017 12:54 PM (QM5S2)

15 And everyone of those people who died can come back and haunt the Democrat mayor.

Especially the Family in the Van who left too late...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:54 PM (O2RFr)

16 ace, if you get the chance, you should also include a link to this beautiful bit of gospel that broke out at one of the Houston shelters. It gives me chills to listen to it. Good chills; hopeful chills.


http://tinyurl.com/ybvwyv4y (link to the Daily Mail)

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 12:55 PM (4df7R)

17 Texas is full of Black Shirts!

Posted by: cnn at August 31, 2017 12:55 PM (mJ8mX)

18 I've reached the point where I can barely watch anymore. I've been brought to tears too many times to count.

I must say I enjoyed the CNN reporterette being told off, and the blank look on Jim Acosta's face.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2017 12:55 PM (PY9jH)

19 But part of me wants to say no one gets in the truck unless they raise their hand and swear they've got all their pets...
Posted by: JEM at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (TppKb)
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Jem, this may well be the best comment I've read in a very long time. I will steal it, with credit of course because, well, moron and all that, but thank you.

Posted by: IP at August 31, 2017 12:56 PM (UmSfZ)

20 5 This is a dumb question, but where does that much water drain off to?
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The Gulf.
Eventually.

It's the biggest problem by far now. My wife was asking me this morning "don't they have pumps like New Orleans?" And I told her no city in this country has pumps like New Orleans, and that is the kind of thing you either build years ahead of time or you do without.

Houston's problem is that it sits on a flat coastal plain with almost no slope, so water tends to sit. What's worse, areas that used to be forest and fields even just 30 years ago have all been turned into subdivisions with lots of asphalt and concrete, and they don't have the capacity to absorb flood water like they did.

It most likely will be weeks before some of these neighborhood cans be re-entered. No one knows the precise number yet, but as many as 200,000 homes may have to be gutted and rebuilt.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 31, 2017 12:56 PM (k1TUh)

21 And mad fucking props to the woman pointing out that even when she's upset, dumb woman still pushing a mic in her face. Like a robot.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2017 12:56 PM (pAr44)

22 Yeah, but they're all Nazis, so they really had it coming.

/s

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2017 12:56 PM (X6fMO)

23
Drywall futures are up $2.83.
Posted by: Roland THTG at August 31, 2017 12:54 PM (QM5S2)



And Mexico will see a boom in late model used cars

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 31, 2017 12:57 PM (lKyWE)

24 That family of 6 found in the van strikes a little to close to home: my wife and I have four kids, and we drive a minivan. They're all young, and none of them would know how to get out.

Posted by: T at August 31, 2017 12:57 PM (uEo+f)

25 6 The answer to natural disasters is SMALLER GOVERNMENT "

I'll take the Cajun Navy over a bunch of dickwad DC bureaucrats any day.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 31, 2017 12:57 PM (ZM2xo)

26 Was just on the phone with an architect here.

I don't think anyone has any way to calculate what the impact is going to be to the state. Workers, materials, displaced persons maybe never returning, banks, insurance companies--no one dodged this bullet.
Posted by: TexasDan



500,000 vehicles or more are toast. Think of all the new vehicles trapped on dealers' lots. Everything took a hit. Everything.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 12:57 PM (b/6cr)

27 This is going take a long time to fix. Buckle up buckaroos.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 31, 2017 12:58 PM (WoSlu)

28 No, as a matter of fact this is NOT a TEACHING MOMENT, lefties.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 31, 2017 12:58 PM (RD7QR)

29 26 6 The answer to natural disasters is SMALLER GOVERNMENT "

I'll take the Cajun Navy over a bunch of dickwad DC bureaucrats any day.
On the saving side yes, but the aftermath..... I don't know how that is gonna go...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 12:58 PM (O2RFr)

30 I remember feeling sorry for the Charlie Hebdo victims.

Bastards apparently are unaware that many of the soldiers who liberated Paris from the Nazis were from Texas and the South.

*types*

*deletes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2017 12:58 PM (PY9jH)

31 That poor family.

I guess it's not rational to think that it's is more tragic than any other fatal car accident. But it really does seem worse, getting swept away in a flood while trying to escape.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 31, 2017 12:59 PM (PXbkt)

32 Willowed:

We touched on it a bit yesterday, but I found out more fun stuff:

"The Walt Disney
Co. made a $1 million cash donation on Tuesday to the American Red
Cross to support recovery efforts for Houston and other areas in
southeast Texas and Louisiana affected by Hurricane Harvey."

Disney is worth $19 billion.

Giving $1 million is the equivalent to a family* donating $3.50.

* Average US net worth is $68,828

Posted by: Moron Robbie - White, Nationalist, and Now the Media Says We're White Nationalists at August 31, 2017 12:59 PM (rjrh3)

33 11
Thank you, Lord for keeping my family safe.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 31, 2017 12:52 PM (3Bcp6)

This. I have extended family who lost everything, but they are safe, and they have family to rely on. Many are not so fortunate.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 31, 2017 12:59 PM (tbOMB)

34 I like the dog rescues.

Woof!

Posted by: Service Dog #53711030 at August 31, 2017 01:00 PM (3myMJ)

35 I had to go and look for that story about the three-year-old clinging to the body of her dead mother, and now I am sobbing.

God bless everyone who has suffered in this storm. May He bring you relief and comfort.

Posted by: bluebell at August 31, 2017 01:00 PM (UoSKV)

36 dumb woman still pushing a mic in her face. Like a robot.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 31, 2017 12:56 PM (pAr44)

And then they'll say Trump lacks empathy. These people dont even know what empathy is.

Posted by: derbrererd at August 31, 2017 01:00 PM (+wzf6)

37
28 This is going take a long time to fix. Buckle up buckaroos.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 31, 2017 12:58 PM (WoSlu)

Is it a job too big for Texans? I think not.

(Not to be glib about how much time and money it's going to cost, but I have faith in Texans and the deplorable Americans.)

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 31, 2017 01:01 PM (ZM2xo)

38 The story about the family of six is even MORE tragic when you realize the six killed were four children and their great-grandparents, while the father who was driving the van managed to get out. But he couldn't rescue any of the others before the van got swept away.


That man. I can't even begin to imagine that pain. I don't even WANT to imagine it.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (4df7R)

39 but as many as 200,000 homes may have to be gutted and rebuilt.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Maybe gutted and rebuilt further inland ...

Posted by: Adriane the Meteorology Critic ... at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (AoK0a)

40 An astounding fact - the area of currently standing floodwater in southern Texas is an inland lake which is roughly the size of Lake Michigan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (k1TUh)

41 We have friends from here whose grown children urged them to move to the Houston area to escape the hurricane prone SE.

Their home is under water.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)

42 farking eclipse

Posted by: kallisto at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (g+Dix)

43
36 I had to go and look for that story about the three-year-old clinging to the body of her dead mother, and now I am sobbing. "

That's why I'm avoiding those stories, bluebell. I'm on my lunch break. Don't want to cry at work.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (ZM2xo)

44 Bless everyone involved.

I got a news alert this morning that the main pipeline for gasoline into the Carolinas is being shut down today. This is the one that got shut down a year or two ago due to a fire and basically every gas station in the area ran out of gas within a few days.

Gas was 2.29 when I left for work, Mommy called around 11:30 and said it was 2.45 and I filled up at lunch at 2.57 though if I had waited and gone a bit further it was still at 2.45 there.

People forget just how interconnected we all are.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 31, 2017 01:03 PM (mf5HN)

45 I'm sure you've seen this, but I have to link this Hero for telling a CNN reporterette, and Jim Acosta and his oddly darkened hair, to F*** off.

It would have been funnier if it had been Al Gore going there, telling people "It serves you right! Now do you understand the dangers of Global Warming???"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 01:03 PM (/qEW2)

46 I am pretty sure that the response to this disaster by everyday Americans, of every race, creed and color, is the most magnificent thing I have ever seen in my entire life (no hyperbole). THIS is the America I know and love, how foolish I was to think that it had gone away.

I saw a response to an anti-theist trying to bait a Christian over Harvey that I loved. "Where is your God now" kinda thing, to which the Christian responded "I see a storm that has done come to remind us that we are one people and what that means at a time when the country was becoming increasingly divided and hostile, and I see that being reaffirmed a thousand times a day".

I'm a Christian but not so much a "Hand of God" kinda guy, but that's got a great tune, and I sure can dance to it.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 31, 2017 01:03 PM (0otiP)

47 "The Walt Disney
Co. made a $1 million cash donation on Tuesday to the American Red
Cross to support recovery efforts for Houston and other areas in
southeast Texas and Louisiana affected by Hurricane Harvey."

Most of which goes to the Administrators... They have the worst stats for actual donations to the folks...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 01:03 PM (O2RFr)

48 "Walt Disney World Resort Donates $12.5 Million to Dr. P. Phillips Orlando Performing Arts Center"

@ http://www.csrwire.com/

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Wow. $12.5 million for the performing arts.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - White, Nationalist, and Now the Media Says We're White Nationalists at August 31, 2017 01:03 PM (rjrh3)

49 43 farking eclipse
Posted by: kallisto at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (g+Dix)

Time for a new car.

Posted by: josephistan at August 31, 2017 01:03 PM (7HtZB)

50 36 I had to go and look for that story about the three-year-old clinging to the body of her dead mother, and now I am sobbing.

You are stronger than I am. I just can't.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 31, 2017 01:04 PM (tbOMB)

51 It would have been funnier if it had been Al Gore going there, telling people "It serves you right! Now do you understand the dangers of Global Warming???"

I did that

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at August 31, 2017 01:04 PM (O2RFr)

52 Waspy socialists in the media, cannot understand people of all races helping all people that are in trouble.

Within their 97% white bubble, they don't understand how real people who live in normal multi-racial neighborhoods conduct themselves.

Posted by: redenzo at August 31, 2017 01:04 PM (5wSNN)

53 "The Walt Disney Company Foundation Donates $2.5 Million Toward Building of Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - White, Nationalist, and Now the Media Says We're White Nationalists at August 31, 2017 01:04 PM (rjrh3)

54 I am pretty sure that the response to this disaster by everyday Americans, of every race, creed and color, is the most magnificent thing I have ever seen in my entire life (no hyperbole). THIS is the America I know and love, how foolish I was to think that it had gone away.
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+100, Weirddave

Posted by: bluebell at August 31, 2017 01:05 PM (UoSKV)

55 And then they'll say Trump lacks empathy. These people dont even know what empathy is.
Posted by: derbrererd


Empathy is perhaps the wrong word. A made up emotion to convey some kind of connection.

How can one man connect with tens of thousands of people? What do you expect?
Trump came down there to see the disaster first hand. He sat at a table with Greg Abbott, the Texas governor, who cannot walk (in a wheel chair), and now what?

And Melania's shoes! Really!

Reporters and network people are a bunch of soulless automatons. They have a script, they have a narrative, they have their hair styled, and .....they're off!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 31, 2017 01:05 PM (vcOmj)

56 Life is good, until that bitch makes bail.

Posted by: Service Dog #53711030 at August 31, 2017 01:05 PM (3myMJ)

57 If you want to contribute I can recommend the Salvation Army.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 31, 2017 01:05 PM (WoSlu)

58 I guess this fixes the auto slump. Also, beware the great deal on that late model "gently used" car at the buy here pay here in about 6 months.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 31, 2017 01:05 PM (dnWSK)

59 50 . Gotta get a yob first!

Posted by: kallisto at August 31, 2017 01:05 PM (g+Dix)

60 "Kids' Votes Determine How Disney Will Divide $1 Million in Donations
Among Environmental Causes"

(I guess Texans should probably be glad they don't have to expect kids to vote on how their $3.50 will be spent.)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - White, Nationalist, and Now the Media Says We're White Nationalists at August 31, 2017 01:06 PM (rjrh3)

61 Love that "armed man" protecting the stores. That is American pride. That's a man doing a man's job.

I'd be proud to have his back any day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2017 01:06 PM (X6fMO)

62 The Media should stop filming the flooding and get in there and help

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (5y11N)

63 I had to go and look for that story about the three-year-old clinging to the body of her dead mother, and now I am sobbing.

You are stronger than I am. I just can't.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 31, 2017 01:04 PM (tbOMB)
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I know, it was like I was compelled to look though. I had to scroll down a long way to find it. There wasn't much, just added that the mother had tried to carry her daughter to safety. The mother didn't survive, but the little one did; she is being treated for hypothermia but should be okay.

No greater love.

Posted by: bluebell at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (UoSKV)

64 Within their 97% white bubble, they don't understand
how real people who live in normal multi-racial neighborhoods conduct
themselves. Posted by: redenzo at August 31, 2017 01:04 PM (5wSNN)
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^^^This^^^

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (MIKMs)

65 If you want to contribute I can recommend the Salvation Army.

Good one also Samaritans Purse and Catholic Charities...

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (O2RFr)

66 "500,000 vehicles or more are toast. Think of all the new vehicles trapped on dealers' lots. Everything took a hit. Everything."

anybody in the car market for the next 6 months, anywhere in the country, needs to be on the lookout. There are gonna be a whole lot of "Low Mileage! Just like New!" cars going around, with a price that will tempt you into not investigating where they came from.

A car ain't ever the same after it's been underwater.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (k1TUh)

67 "Kids' Votes Determine How Disney Will Divide $1 Million in Donations
Among Environmental Causes"


Ice cream!!!

Posted by: Service Dog #53711030 at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (3myMJ)

68
This is a very bittersweet one: A baby was rescued. But she was rescuedclinging to the body of her dead mother.




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I read about this mom on the Christian Post. She was an unashamed follower of Jesus Christ. The three year old, when she was being rescued said, "Im holding on to Mama. She's saying her prayers."


Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (lwiT4)

69
42 We have friends from here whose grown children urged them to move to the Houston area to escape the hurricane prone SE.

Their home is under water.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)


Seems like the entire Gulf area and southern part of the East Coast is a crap shoot.

Pick your poison: floods and hurricanes down there; tornadoes in the Midwest, earthquakes and drought and massive fires in California. Bitter cold in winter or extreme heat, with or without humidity in the summer. Not enough rain or fog and rain all winter in the NE.

It's always something.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at August 31, 2017 01:08 PM (ZM2xo)

70 Maybe gutted and rebuilt further inland ...

Serious question: How hard is it to build up local hillocks with slag or trash or rocks or something, sink steel pylons to bedrock, then build houses on that? Would that solve the problem of being built on flood plains?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2017 01:08 PM (jhqr1)

71 bluebell - see me @69

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (lwiT4)

72 A car ain't ever the same after it's been underwater.
Posted by: Tom Servo


You're telling me!!

Posted by: Ted Kennedy, ZOMBIE!! at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (vcOmj)

73 Who cares about a dumb ol' hurricane? The real crisis here is BANANA PEELS:

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9679

Greek Life retreat cancelled after banana peel found in tree

-- A Greek Life retreat at the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) was promptly cancelled this weekend after a banana peel was found hanging in a tree.

-- A student said he threw the peel because he could not find a garbage can, but the incident made some students uneasy, so the school “felt it was imperative to provide space immediately to students affected by this incident.”

"A A Greek Life retreat at the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) was promptly cancelled this weekend after a banana peel was found hanging in a tree.

“To be clear, many members of our community were hurt, frightened, and upset by what occurred at IMPACT,” Interim Director of Fraternity and Sorority Life Alexa Lee Arndt remarked in an email between Greek leaders, according to The Daily Mississippian. “Because of the underlying reality many students of color endure on a daily basis, the conversation manifested into a larger conversation about race relations today at the University of Mississippi.”

Apparently, student Ryan Swanson admitted to discarding the banana peel in a tree after he was unable to locate a garbage can, and it was later spotted by Alpha Kappa Alpha President Makala McNeil, who leads one of the campuses historically black sororities.

“The overall tone was heavy. I mean, we were talking about race in Mississippi and in the Greek community so there’s a lot involved,” McNeil recalled, later adding that she and her friend were “all just sort of paranoid for a second” after spotting the banana.

After word of the banana spread throughout the retreat, leaders decided to end the event early. Arndt explained that she “felt it was imperative to provide space immediately to students affected by this incident.”

According to The DM, some students left the retreat in tears, with McNeil noting that they “didn’t feel welcome” and “didn’t feel safe.”

Swanson apologized for the incident, writing in a statement that he wants to “sincerely apologize for the events that took place this past weekend.”

“Although unintentional, there is no excuse for the pain that was caused to members of our community,” he continued. “I have much to learn and look forward to doing such and encourage all "

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Nowhere is the article does it ever say WHAT IS THE FREAKIN' PROBLEM WITH BANANA PEELS???

I can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid"?

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (DQ4Fv)

74 grammie winger,

There must be dust in here...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (O2RFr)

75 25 That family of 6 found in the van strikes a little to close to home: my wife and I have four kids, and we drive a minivan. They're all young, and none of them would know how to get out.
Posted by: T at August 31, 2017 12:57 PM (uEo+f)

...

Same. I can't bear reading the details of that story.

It's worth stating in the face of this awful tragedy that one has very, very little time to exit a submerging vehicle. Like under ten seconds.

There are some good videos demonstrating what it takes and what it is like to be in a submerging vehicle. Primary take away from me is that you have to essentially get the window down immediately if not beforehand, or it's impossible to exit.

If it were for some reason--and let's state clearly, there is never a reason--but if there were some reason, everyone should be out of seatbelts, windows down, and an exit strategy in place before entering moving water.

But there is never a reason.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (yL25O)

76 I read about this mom on the Christian Post. She was an unashamed follower of Jesus Christ. The three year old, when she was being rescued said, "Im holding on to Mama. She's saying her prayers."


Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 01:07 PM (lwiT4)
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Oh my goodness. I'm gushing again. I've got to go.

Posted by: bluebell at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (UoSKV)

77 I read about this mom on the Christian Post. She was an unashamed follower of Jesus Christ. The three year old, when she was being rescued said, "Im holding on to Mama. She's saying her prayers."

Oh, no. I can't even. . .

I've got to leave this thread. Later, all.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 31, 2017 01:10 PM (X6fMO)

78 6 The answer to natural disasters is SMALLER GOVERNMENT
Posted by: Sure at August 31, 2017 12:50 PM (qTkwK)




Because a government providing you with your free shit all the time is just the same as one that provides you with help when you really do need it. That's how you leftist dupes think, isn't it?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 31, 2017 01:11 PM (ujg0T)

79 anybody in the car market for the next 6 months, anywhere in the country, needs to be on the lookout. There are gonna be a whole lot of "Low Mileage! Just like New!" cars going around, with a price that will tempt you into not investigating where they came from.

A car ain't ever the same after it's been underwater.
Posted by: Tom Servo



Friends down there. Just off of FM 1960, NW side.
1966 Mustang completely submerged. It's being towed to Dallas this weekend to be cleaned up/rebuilt by other friends that live up here.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 01:11 PM (b/6cr)

80 Apparently the mom had tried to fit the three year old with a makeshift flotation device using a backpack. The rescuers said that it did help keep her afloat somewhat.



Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 01:11 PM (lwiT4)

81 can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid"?
Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (DQ4Fv)

That just can't be real, even a dog knows better than that.

Posted by: Service Dog #53711030 at August 31, 2017 01:12 PM (3myMJ)

82
Nowhere is the article does it ever say WHAT IS THE FREAKIN' PROBLEM WITH BANANA PEELS???

I can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid"?
Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (DQ4Fv)


Because banana peel = "monkeys" = "blacks" in their twisted little minds. Every thing is some sort of secret racist sign according to these nutjobs.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 31, 2017 01:12 PM (Tnhbr)

83 anybody in the car market for the next 6 months, anywhere in the country, needs to be on the lookout. There are gonna be a whole lot of "Low Mileage! Just like New!" cars going around, with a price that will tempt you into not investigating where they came from.

A car ain't ever the same after it's been underwater.


Carfax shows flood damage information, but don't rely on it 100%.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2017 01:12 PM (jhqr1)

84 "Im holding on to Mama. She's saying her prayers."

Poor little angel.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2017 01:12 PM (jhqr1)

85 That baby....that mama....I can't bear anymore.

Going to try to get my errands and chores done, after I get all the dust out of my eyes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2017 01:12 PM (PY9jH)

86 I've always have had reservations with power windows in case of a water exit. Supposedly, they may work but I have my doubts.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 31, 2017 01:13 PM (WoSlu)

87 ...and it was later spotted by Alpha Kappa Alpha President Makala McNeil,
who leads one of the campuses historically black sororities.


---

Wait, Makala, who I'm assuming is The Black, who not only goes to school at Ole Miss but is the leader of of nationally-recognized black sorority at the campus of f*cking Ole Miss in f*cking Mississippi, is complaining about what now?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - White, Nationalist, and Now the Media Says We're White Nationalists at August 31, 2017 01:13 PM (rjrh3)

88 A car ain't ever the same after it's been underwater.
Posted by: Tom Servo


I'm reminded of the Top Gear episode where they submerged a Toyota Hilux for a week and got it running again with just tools from the toolbox. The truck that was unkillable...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (Tnhbr)

89 I got Willowed in the gorilla thread but I didn't see that as any reason for the world to be deprived of my wit.

There'll Be a Thought Crime In the Old Time Tonight

When you hear dem a bells go ding ling ling
All join 'round and sweetly you must sing
And when the verse am through in the chorus all join in
There'll be a thought crime in the old town tonight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o4bXDKticro

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (Nwg0u)

90 Because banana peel = "monkeys" = "blacks" in their twisted little minds. Every thing is some sort of secret racist sign according to these nutjobs.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile


Whaaaaaaaa-????

But -- what does a banana PEEL in a tree have to do with some random passerby?

Does the very existence of bananas on Earth cause 24-hour-a-day hyperventilating hysteria?

Do they walk by a grocery store, peer in through the window, sees bananas for sale, and go into apoplectic convulsions because the bananas exist?

If someone at he next table in an ice cream parlor orders a banana split, are they committing a hate crime?

In short: Are bananas the new nooses?

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (DQ4Fv)

91 Why do the Greeks fear banana peals?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (WoSlu)

92 BTW Makala, I don't care about you, your sorority, or your banana peel fears any more, and it's 100% okay because I don't live there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - White, Nationalist, and Now the Media Says We're White Nationalists at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (rjrh3)

93 Went through a tornado once.... wife and I huddled in a bathtub when it hit... when it was over everything was destroyed including the neighborhood... a number of neighbors died... remember it all very well. but nothing like this...

Posted by: kraken at August 31, 2017 01:15 PM (zSVEm)

94 I can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid"?

Blacks, monkeys, bananas. Some assembly required. Capiche? I know... stupid but there it is..

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 31, 2017 01:15 PM (zRZaJ)

95
Most of the flood damaged cars will be sent to Mexico or the Mid-East

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (lKyWE)

96 Nowhere is the article does it ever say WHAT IS THE FREAKIN' PROBLEM WITH BANANA PEELS???



I can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid"?

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (DQ4Fv)


Because "banana" implies apes or monkeys, which has long been a racial slur against black people. That's why you'll find a dozen stories throughout the year of colleges launching investigations when someone finds a banana discarded in front of a dormitory or, as here, a banana peel in a tree. It's the most ridiculous, literally insane nonsense imaginable.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (4df7R)

97 MELANIA'S WEARING HEELS!!!

Posted by: This...is CNN at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (O5Q3r)

98 Yeah, ok, I guess we're supposed to say "yay" about the woman telling off the CNN folks on live tv, but hey lady, maybe you could have simply refused to be interviewed in the first place, rather than spewing profanities on live tv.

Sometimes stuff happens to us. Sometimes we cause our own shite, and yelling at others doesn't do squat to change anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (TOk1P)

99 Serious question: How hard is it to build up local hillocks with slag or trash or rocks or something, sink steel pylons to bedrock, then build houses on that? Would that solve the problem of being built on flood plains?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2017 01:08 PM (jhqr1)

Not hard, expensive.

On the coast they don't occupy the ground level, and they build "blow out" walls that are designed to break away in a flood. The occupied level is second story.

We could build everything this way but it's expensive, and means climbing stairs to enter the home. And it doesn't protect vehicles.

Besides all of which --what is the flood plain? It's a non-trivial question. We had a flood here in Austin where locally we got 10" in two hours or something. You don't have to be down in a valley somewhere to get flooded by that kind of a storm. And which event do you assume? The 100 year flood plain is a quaint idea when you get an event with a 800 year recurrence interval.

Those recurrence intervals are pretty reliable, by the way. It's just a curve fit to actual data of rainfall, wind storms, earthquake, etc. It's amazing how the data forms a neat, orderly little graph. So the people doing the projections are doing a solid job, but as a society we have to decide what level of risk to take in setting building codes, and the 800 year return interval is not something we could afford to build to.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (yL25O)

100 I can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid"?

Posted by: zombie


Bananas were originally called "BLM bane" before they became known as "bananas".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 01:17 PM (/qEW2)

101 BANANA SPLITS GUY TORTURES BLACK CHEERLEADERS!

Posted by: CNN at August 31, 2017 01:17 PM (3myMJ)

102 91 Why do the Greeks fear banana peals?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (WoSlu)

Because you can slip on them. Have we learned nothing from the Three Stooges?

Posted by: josephistan at August 31, 2017 01:18 PM (7HtZB)

103 In short: Are bananas the new nooses?
Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (DQ4Fv)


In short: yup.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 31, 2017 01:18 PM (Tnhbr)

104 Because "banana" implies apes or monkeys, which has
long been a racial slur against black people. That's why you'll find a
dozen stories throughout the year of colleges launching investigations
when someone finds a banana discarded in front of a dormitory or, as
here, a banana peel in a tree. It's the most ridiculous, literally
insane nonsense imaginable.


Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (4df7R)


---

I've never thought about it, but is there a self-imposed banana ban?

My God, is that why food deserts exist?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - White, Nationalist, and Now the Media Says We're White Nationalists at August 31, 2017 01:19 PM (rjrh3)

105 Because "banana" implies apes or monkeys, which has long been a racial slur against black people.
Posted by: MWR


But this wasn't a banana -- it was a peel.

So, by this implication, does the color "yellow" now have racist overtones, because bananas are yellow?

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

106 101 BANANA SPLITS GUY TORTURES BLACK CHEERLEADERS!
Posted by: CNN at August 31, 2017 01:17 PM (3myMJ)




Fleagle, Bingo, Drooper and Snork.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 31, 2017 01:19 PM (ujg0T)

107 103 In short: Are bananas the new nooses?
Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:14 PM (DQ4Fv)

In short: yup.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 31, 2017 01:18 PM (Tnhbr)

In shorter... these people are desperate...

Posted by: kraken at August 31, 2017 01:19 PM (zSVEm)

108 The story on Campus Reform makes the story seem sillier than it is. Source story in the student paper explains the banana peel like this:

She said the image [i.e. the banana in a tree] was especially disturbing in light of an incident on American University's campus in May of this year. The morning Taylor Dumpson was to take over as the school's first female black student government president, students found bananas hanging from nooses across campus. Some of the bananas were inscribed with references to Dumpson's sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha.

http://thedmonline.com/greek-life-retreat-ends-abruptly-bias-concerns/

It's still a silly overreaction... But there's no excuse for leaving the explanation out in order to wind people up.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 31, 2017 01:20 PM (PXbkt)

109 98 Yeah, ok, I guess we're supposed to say "yay" about the woman telling off the CNN folks on live tv, but hey lady, maybe you could have simply refused to be interviewed in the first place, rather than spewing profanities on live tv.

Sometimes stuff happens to us. Sometimes we cause our own shite, and yelling at others doesn't do squat to change anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (TOk1P)



You know, she probably was like "yeah ok," and after the questions and talking about it she got angry as she gathered her thoughts together and pissed off as the dumb reporter thought the woman wanted to give more than a ten second answer.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 01:20 PM (cAnNx)

110 Rednecks: Is there anything they can't do?

https://tinyurl.com/y967dne7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 01:20 PM (Nwg0u)

111 I've always have had reservations with power windows in case of a water exit. Supposedly, they may work but I have my doubts.

I have a little tool-combined glass breaker and seat belt cutter-on my key chain for this very reason.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 31, 2017 01:20 PM (0otiP)

112 "Are bananas the new nooses?"

No, they are ancillary equipment

Put guy in noose and have him stand on banana peels. He'll slip eventually.

Posted by: CNN at August 31, 2017 01:21 PM (3myMJ)

113 But this wasn't a banana -- it was a peel.



Doesn't matter. It had once been part of an actual banana, and it was hung in a tree, giving it even MORE racist weight. "Someone HUNG a BANANA peel in a tree!"


This is the kind of bullshit these cretins believe.



So, by this implication, does the color "yellow" now have racist overtones, because bananas are yellow?

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)


No, the color yellow is racist for entirely different reasons.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 01:21 PM (4df7R)

114 I don't blame the lady that cursed at the CNN reporter. They probably just arrived at the shelter, in total shock, and the reporter sticks a mic in her face. She mahaps thought it was someone there to help them.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2017 01:21 PM (mxS7w)

115 God Bless Texas.


https://twitter.com/SecretaryPerry/status/903301167018598401

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 31, 2017 01:22 PM (mf5HN)

116 "99 Serious question: How hard is it to build up local hillocks with slag or trash or rocks or something, sink steel pylons to bedrock, then build houses on that? Would that solve the problem of being built on flood plains? "

If you go and tour some of the old existing great plantation houses of southern Louisiana (I have), built back in the days before levees when the Mississippi flooded every spring, you will notice that they were all built with the main entrance on what we would call the second floor, along with a grand gallery running around the house, and an impressive staircase in the front. The ground level of the house in those days was open and mostly used for animals and storage of whatever crop was being produced at the time.

Those houses were built to be completely livable through an 8 foot high flood, which is why they survived.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 31, 2017 01:22 PM (k1TUh)

117 108 The story on Campus Reform makes the story seem sillier than it is. Source story in the student paper explains the banana peel like this:

She said the image [i.e. the banana in a tree] was especially disturbing in light of an incident on American University's campus in May of this year. The morning Taylor Dumpson was to take over as the school's first female black student government president, students found bananas hanging from nooses across campus. Some of the bananas were inscribed with references to Dumpson's sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha.

http://thedmonline.com/greek-life-retreat-ends-abruptly-bias-concerns/

It's still a silly overreaction... But there's no excuse for leaving the explanation out in order to wind people up.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton


BUT THAT WAS A FAKE HATE CRIME PERPETRATED BY TAYLOR DUMPSON.

So, they're having paranoia over-reactions to their own hoaxes?

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:22 PM (DQ4Fv)

118 Serious question: How hard is it to build up local hillocks with slag or trash or rocks or something, sink steel pylons to bedrock, then build houses on that? Would that solve the problem of being built on flood plains?
Posted by: bonhomme


Not how hard, but that sounds expensive. Houston just sort of ....grew. It's flatland, on the Gulf, and gets lots of rain. Bayous and rivers, but 50 inches of rain in 3 or 4 days is just TOO MUCH. This is a once in a century or 500 year occurance.
Houston has floods of some kind every other year from heavy rains, and really, they need to rethink how drainage is supposed to take place. But no plan would have accounted for this disaster.
The idea that they would have pumps to take out the water is confusing how small New Orleans is compared to Houston. Houston is huge.
Parts of New Orleans are literally below sea level, and won't drain at all. Hence the pumps (which were badly maintained and didn't work when they flipped the switch).

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 31, 2017 01:22 PM (vcOmj)

119 If I travel through Transylvania at night, I can wear a garlic necklace and be safe. If I travel through Ferguson at night, I can wear a banana peel necklace and remain safe. News you can use.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 01:23 PM (/qEW2)

120 All family members are safe. No property damage or loss for my closest neighbors. But 5+ houses away - everybody got water in their houses. All those neighbors have been pulling out all their water soaked stuff from the house.

Internet is back. Comcast had shut it all down Sunday night, even in areas where it was working through the storm. I have two choice words for Comcast.

Water came within 10ft of the house. Still had power throughout the storm but lost our safe water supply. Have to boil it for use for an indeterminate time.

We are so thankful.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 31, 2017 01:23 PM (JO9+V)

121 1) You should have a life hammer of some sort in your vehicle. They're like under $15 and have a point to easily break the windows on the hammer side and a cutter to cut the seatbelt.
That's what gets you killed in a car in water--pressure from the outside water won't allow the window to work even if you have power. And you won't get that window open until the pressure is equalized; interior full of water.
And, in a panic, seat belts are damned hard to release. Especially if you're rolling and the car is filling with water.

2) Of those 200k+ estimated homes needing gutting. Most of those people don't have flood insurance; they were well outside any flood plain. They have lost everything and there's no insurance to cover.
Remediation of water damage will run nearly the cost of the house.

3) Even cars fixed for freshwater flood damage will have hidden corrosion. Buy one and you're looking at major mechanical failure later and, likely, a fire.
Satlwater flood damage is an automatic scrap.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 31, 2017 01:23 PM (oF/7l)

122 Monkeys like bananas, monkeys often go into trees, black people have been compared by racists to monkeys, putting a banana peel in a tree is like telling black people to go back to the trees. Or something.

Someone needs to let this Sorority girl know that when you're trying to divine an unknown person's intention, assuming the very worst automatically is a great way to drive yourself insane.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2017 01:24 PM (jhqr1)

123 I see those pics & videos & get goosebumps. So proud of them all in Texas.

Sadly, it is going to take years to recover. That's when the churches are going to be core...they will be doing the heavy lifting when NGOs & govt. can't...or won't.

/OT joel osteen's displays of wealth & his home are obscene. There are people like Rick Warren who donated all their book sale money to help people. JMO, but if you are gonna have a house that big, you open it up to needy people...and I'm sure there are some in his flock who are needy right now.

Heck, one woman took in 16 people!

And he has a guest house?! smh shame on you Olsteen. Shame.

Posted by: I don't know yet at August 31, 2017 01:24 PM (V9sPV)

124 I guess they will b yanking down statues of bananas now.
Fruitful.

Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved at August 31, 2017 01:24 PM (UFFux)

125 Yeah, ok, I guess we're supposed to say "yay" about the woman telling off the CNN folks on live tv, but hey lady, maybe you could have simply refused to be interviewed in the first place, rather than spewing profanities on live tv.

Sometimes stuff happens to us. Sometimes we cause our own shite, and yelling at others doesn't do squat to change anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:16 PM (TOk1P)



You know, she probably was like "yeah ok," and after the questions and talking about it she got angry as she gathered her thoughts together and pissed off as the dumb reporter thought the woman wanted to give more than a ten second answer.
Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 01:20 PM (cAnNx)


Maybe. What I saw though, was an imaginary bubble over her head that reads "Perpetual Victim."

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:24 PM (TOk1P)

126 I hope banana peels start showing up regularly at campuses across America. But not on the sidewalks, please. Safety first!

#APeelForAmerica

Posted by: RioBravo at August 31, 2017 01:24 PM (giT7q)

127 And God Bless Rednecks!


https://twitter.com/michaelkeyes/status/903222264858124289


'MERICA!

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 31, 2017 01:25 PM (mf5HN)

128 110>
No.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at August 31, 2017 01:25 PM (jAZR9)

129 #26 FEMA already trying to block private airboats from doing rescues. Airboat volunteers telling them to fuck off.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 31, 2017 01:25 PM (6wURk)

130 So, they're having paranoia over-reactions to their own hoaxes?
--

Well... you've got to assume the kids who freaked out about the banana in the tree didn't know that the original noose-bananas were fake.

Don't get me wrong. It's a silly, silly overreaction, regardless. I just get irritated when people on our side filter the news dishonestly in order to wind me up.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 31, 2017 01:26 PM (PXbkt)

131 This whole thing has been a major PITA. I live out in Missouri City. We have a mandatory evacuation, which seems unnecessary. No flooding here, but I've been stuck in the house since last Friday. I do wonder when things will get back to normal around here.

Posted by: Bummer at August 31, 2017 01:26 PM (K3F/8)

132 So, they're having paranoia over-reactions to their own hoaxes?





Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:22 PM (DQ4Fv)


Yes. This is what crazy people do.

See also: Media hysteria over "Russian collusion" that was invented by Hillary's campaign.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 01:26 PM (4df7R)

133 Poop in shape of banana peel found in campus bathroom, students traumatized!

Posted by: CNN at August 31, 2017 01:26 PM (3myMJ)

134 Damn, it got real dusty when I saw that biblical quote. Damn!

Posted by: Max Power at August 31, 2017 01:26 PM (q177U)

135
The morning Taylor Dumpson was to take over as the school's first
female black student government president, students found bananas
hanging from nooses across campus. Some of the bananas were inscribed
with references to Dumpson's sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha.
======
All hate crimes are hoaxes.


Posted by: RoyalOil at August 31, 2017 01:26 PM (oF/7l)

136 "Nowhere is the article does it ever say WHAT IS THE FREAKIN' PROBLEM WITH BANANA PEELS???



I can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid"?

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:09 PM (DQ4Fv)"


It didn't make her paranoid. She says that it did in order to enable her "tribe" to gather together and reinforce their emotional reactions to any symbol their leader says should bring on a certain emotion. This is how you form a new culture. Embed emotional reactions in people and they will stay there and change how they view the world even when the reactions are not rational.

They, the left, are building phobias into their tribes.

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 31, 2017 01:27 PM (zOpu5)

137 I guess we're supposed to say "yay" about the woman telling off the CNN folks on live tv, but hey lady, maybe you could have simply refused to be interviewed in the first place,

-
Or kicked Jim Acosta's testicles up behind his eyeballs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 01:27 PM (Nwg0u)

138 Reading this post and seeing these amazing pictures, I can barely breathe.

I'm overwhelmed by awe and humbled by the grace and courage of these people.

That couple smiling amidst the wreckage of their home, reminding us all what it really means to be blessed, Jeremiah and his precious son, showing us what gratitude looks like, and shotgun man in the parking lot where the rubber hits the road, showing us what a real man, raw and powerful, does when the going gets tough.

My God.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 31, 2017 01:27 PM (ihmYw)

139 Good thing they didn't have a tire swing in the tree at that retreat.

Posted by: Roy at August 31, 2017 01:27 PM (7n4KQ)

140 Can you tell us how you and your hungry children braved the water Donald Trump rained down on you?

Posted by: This is CNN at August 31, 2017 01:27 PM (eLttb)

141 127>
It's part of the "Redneck Creed" to always have a monster truck available. (Beer cans in the bed are mandatory.)

And a 4-wheeler.

And a bass boat.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at August 31, 2017 01:28 PM (jAZR9)

142
Oh FFS!

http://www.thewrap.com/charlie-hebdo-mocks-harvey-victims-as-nazis-in-despicable-cover-photo/

Charlie Hebdo, the French satire magazine mocks flooded out Texans as Nazis.

You know what, France and Frenchmen and Frenchwomen?

You had real Nazis in Your Country and collaborated with them as fellas send Jews to Death Camps, you filthy cheese-eating fucks!

We don't you worry about the hundreds of thousands of "go-along-to-get-along" Nazi Frogs in your own midst-

before worrying about the 10 or 20 twenty fat, living in their Mom's basements Nazis in the entire state of Texas.


You stupid, cheese-fucking, wine-enema-ing, Nazi collaborating, Jew-hating piles of crap!





Via Insty.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 01:28 PM (NyJwR)

143 Instead of the left bashing Texans throughout this, they could use it to further their agendas. "Look at all the multiracial harmony and cooperation! We need more immigration". They're letting their hatred of red states prevent them from thinking strategically. Awesome.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 01:28 PM (/qEW2)

144
We are so thankful.


Posted by: Count de Monet at August 31, 2017 01:23 PM (JO9+V)
=====
Thank you for checking in. A lot of the Horde live in TX and LA and if we don't hear for a while from someone, I think a lot of us worry. Stay safe.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (MIKMs)

145 I have a Japanese friend who calls herself a bananna: white on the inside, yellow on the outside.

Posted by: Johnny at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (kUotE)

146 I would think the engineers of every coastal city on the East Coast/Gulf Coast should be looking at their topographical maps and asking "Where do we do put 48" of water arriving in a 72hr window? "

The answer may not be good, but you owe it to your residents.

This seems to be a case of "we just never imagined this much, this fast". OK, I get that. We never thought hijackers would fly into a building either. So, adjust accordingly.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (e0xjo)

147 Yes we have no bananas.

Posted by: Black Caucas at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (3myMJ)

148 That CNN reporter was probably getting ready to ask that woman what she thinks of Confederate statues.

Posted by: mark1971 at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (xPl2J)

149 We are so thankful.
Posted by: Count de Monet




Glad you are ok.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (b/6cr)

150 Posted by: Count de Monet at August 31, 2017 01:23 PM (JO9+V)

...

Great to hear.

We're still waiting to get news on about 6 of our staff from our Houston office.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (yL25O)

151 "We could build everything this way but it's expensive"

Seismic reinforcement and retrofitting is expensive, too, but Commiefornia is having to do more and more of that, because it's been empirically learnt that the alternative is even more expensive.

One way or another, you gonna pay up. Might as well take the cheaper advance installment plan.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (ujwCG)

152 A CNN reporter changes his clothes in 7 seconds on "live" TV before "saving" a man from the flood. At 49 seconds he is in beige shorts and sandals. At 56 seconds he is in black pants and rubber boots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e8mX6VWXvQ&t=61s

Posted by: ken h at August 31, 2017 01:30 PM (ZzQEX)

153 That baby clinging to dead mother...that spooked me b/c I read the same thing in the book "Eyewall" which is written by a guy with experience in all this stuff, though the book is fiction. Read it last year.

That said, I thought some things were a bit outrageous...not anymore.

In fact, may re-read it now.

Posted by: I don't know...check later at August 31, 2017 01:30 PM (V9sPV)

154 Slipping on a banana peel used to be a staple of slapstick comedy. But we have devolved.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2017 01:30 PM (IqV8l)

155 Nice rant Naturalflake, but your omission of the word "surrender" keeps you at an A-

Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 31, 2017 01:31 PM (e0xjo)

156 152
A CNN reporter changes his clothes in 7 seconds on "live" TV before
"saving" a man from the flood. At 49 seconds he is in beige shorts and
sandals. At 56 seconds he is in black pants and rubber boots:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e8mX6VWXvQt=61s

Posted by: ken h at August 31, 2017 01:30 PM (ZzQEX)

Might be different guy, not that CNN is not fake news.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 31, 2017 01:31 PM (tbOMB)

157 I would think the engineers of every coastal city on the East Coast/Gulf Coast should be looking at their topographical maps and asking "Where do we do put 48" of water arriving in a 72hr window? "

If you spend government resources in order to be prepared for 500 year events, you won't have any resources for anything else.

Which doesn't work out so well if you think about it.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:32 PM (3myMJ)

158 You can fit all of Chicago, Manhattan, D.C., Boston, San Fran, and Santa Barbara inside Houston with room to spare. And all of it flooded.


If there is a bell curve for hurricanes, this storm was about 8 std deviations to the right.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 31, 2017 01:32 PM (JO9+V)

159 >> Slipping on a banana peel used to be a staple of slapstick comedy.


Saw it happen once.

At an Grateful Dead show @ Sam Boyd Stadium in Vegas.

Awesome.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 01:32 PM (MyHEM)

160 Slipping on a banana peel used to be a staple of slapstick comedy. But we have devolved.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2017 01:30 PM (IqV8l)

----------------------------

But at least we haven't dissolved- yet.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 31, 2017 01:33 PM (giT7q)

161 I would think the engineers of every coastal city on the East Coast/Gulf Coast should be looking at their topographical maps and asking "Where do we do put 48" of water arriving in a 72hr window? "

The answer may not be good, but you owe it to your residents.

This seems to be a case of "we just never imagined this much, this fast". OK, I get that. We never thought hijackers would fly into a building either. So, adjust accordingly.
Posted by: 2009Refugee



And city leaders who refuse to follow ESTABLISHED evacuation plans should be publicly executed on live tv.

Houston had an evacuation plan in place that they came up with AFTER Rita. Rita evac was a nightmare with everyone trying to leave at once.

They came up with a way for neighborhoods/zip codes to leave in an orderly fashion.

Doesn't help when a mayor throws it in the trash and says "shelter in place".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 01:33 PM (b/6cr)

162 I don't blame the lady that cursed at the CNN reporter. They probably just arrived at the shelter, in total shock, and the reporter sticks a mic in her face. She mahaps thought it was someone there to help them.
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2017 01:21 PM (mxS7w)


There is a time-honored tradition with live interviews, that the interviewee knows what's expected of them, and the reporter is going to ask an initial question, and following that first answer will have one or two follow-ups.

And there are... shall we say, certain segments of population who sorta ambush these reporters, and are asked one question, look semi-serious, and then somewhere in there they turn on the reporter and launch into another tirade about this that or the other.

As for blame? Yeah, I don't care. CNN gets f-bombed live. Of course they deserve it. But this lady knew what the hell she was doing.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:33 PM (TOk1P)

163 You had real Nazis in Your Country and collaborated with them as fellas send Jews to Death Camps, you filthy cheese-eating fucks!

We don't you worry about the hundreds of thousands of "go-along-to-get-along" Nazi Frogs in your own midst-


Compare Jewish population in France pre WWII and post WWII. It wasn't just the collaborators turning in their Jewish neighbors. Even the ones who hated the Nazis were turning in Jews. Very very few stories of Frenchmen courageously hiding Jews or faking documents to help them escape exist.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2017 01:33 PM (jhqr1)

164 159 >> Slipping on a banana peel used to be a staple of slapstick comedy.


Saw it happen once.

At an Grateful Dead show @ Sam Boyd Stadium in Vegas.

Awesome.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 01:32 PM (MyHEM)



But was the guy so stoned that he would have slipped and fallen without the banana peel?

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 01:34 PM (cAnNx)

165 The last 7 days have inspired more pride and awe in me about our country's people than I have felt for a long time.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at August 31, 2017 01:34 PM (wwd4n)

166 32 I spent more on the packets of babywipes I tossed in the Harvey bin at WalMart than Disney spent on Harvey.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 31, 2017 01:34 PM (6wURk)

167 151 "We could build everything this way but it's expensive"

Seismic reinforcement and retrofitting is expensive, too, but Commiefornia is having to do more and more of that, because it's been empirically learnt that the alternative is even more expensive.

One way or another, you gonna pay up. Might as well take the cheaper advance installment plan.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (ujwCG)

...

But even there, the retrofit is limited. Certain things, like attachment of masonry facades, were done everywhere as a requirement because they proved such a hazard to life safety. Highway overpasses, etc.

But everything else is piecemeal and ad hoc--if you touch a building (e.g. some addition or renovation is going on) then you may have to reinforce, but not many buildings are *mandated* to undergo retrofit, that I am aware of.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (yL25O)

168 Despite the efforts of the dividers the American people tend to pull together. I guess you really do need to be highly educated to revert to base sub-tribalism as opposed to nationalism.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hillary Clinton biography - My Struggle - Exclusive at the Outrage Outlet! at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (hLRSq)

169 129 #26 FEMA already trying to block private airboats from doing rescues. Airboat volunteers telling them to fuck off.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 31, 2017 01:25 PM (6wURk)
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Figures. "Way to go Brownie" redux.
Texas learned from witnessing Katrina. Don't trust FEMA, and right they are.

Posted by: I don't know...check later at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (V9sPV)

170 Mere mortal - I'm not saying it can be managed, but on the other hand how many people in these areas know the terrain well enough to know whicy direction means safety? "Inland" isn't an answer if it isn't a direct route.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (e0xjo)

171 As for blame? Yeah, I don't care. CNN gets
f-bombed live. Of course they deserve it. But this lady knew what the
hell she was doing.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:33 PM (TOk1P)

Ok. Guess I'm just not that cynical yet.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (mxS7w)

172 142
Oh FFS!

http://www.thewrap.com/charlie-hebdo-mocks-harvey-victims-as-nazis-in-despicable-cover-photo/

Charlie Hebdo, the French satire magazine mocks flooded out Texans as Nazis.

You know what, France and Frenchmen and Frenchwomen?

You had real Nazis in Your Country and collaborated with them as fellas send Jews to Death Camps, you filthy cheese-eating fucks!

We don't you worry about the hundreds of thousands of "go-along-to-get-along" Nazi Frogs in your own midst-

before worrying about the 10 or 20 twenty fat, living in their Mom's basements Nazis in the entire state of Texas.


You stupid, cheese-fucking, wine-enema-ing, Nazi collaborating, Jew-hating piles of crap!





Via Insty.
Posted by: naturalfake


Charlie Hebdo does the most offensive stuff possible every week. This is absolutely nothing compared to what they generally do.

The context you;re missing is that the entire European Media for the last week or so has been pushing the "All Americans are Nazis" lefty meme relentlessly, and the French actually just accept that as unquestioned truth.

Charlie Hebdo compares EVERYONE to Nazis, constantly. Just shrug it off.

Furthermore, critiquing them by point out that the French were Nazi collaborators is completely futile and backfiring, because Charlie Hebdo ITSEFL constantly critiques France as a nation by constantly pointing out that they were Nazi collaborators. Your criticism has no sting.

Freaking out over a Charlie Hebdo cartoon makes you look like the muslims who freaked out over CH's Mohammed cartoon. Just shrug it off.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (DQ4Fv)

173 "The last 7 days have inspired more pride and awe in me about our country's people than I have felt for a long time."

Antifa has arrived in Houston???

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (3myMJ)

174 Slipping on a banana peel used to be a staple of slapstick comedy.

Watch young children's programming, where comedy staples go to die, you'll see plenty of banana slips.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 31, 2017 01:36 PM (jhqr1)

175
"The Walt Disney Company Foundation Donates $4.3 Million Toward Sheila Jackson Lee Greater Houston Philanthropic Fund"

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 31, 2017 01:36 PM (QM5S2)

176 "knock, knock"

"who's there?"

"banana"

"RAAAAAAAYCISSS!!!"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 01:36 PM (/qEW2)

177 "The context you;re missing is that the entire European Media for the last week or so has been pushing the "All Americans are Nazis" lefty meme relentlessly,"

So Trump is a shoo-in for 2020, yay.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:37 PM (3myMJ)

178 redneck army "angels" save national guard ...

twitter.com/michaelkeyes/status/903222264858124289

Posted by: illiniwek at August 31, 2017 01:37 PM (veVl1)

179 Seismic reinforcement and retrofitting is expensive, too, but Commiefornia is having to do more and more of that, because it's been empirically learnt that the alternative is even more expensive.

One way or another, you gonna pay up. Might as well take the cheaper advance installment plan.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2017 01:29 PM (ujwCG)



Just wait until the New Madrid fault line goes off again.

Sure, the high rises built in the last 30-40 years are built to earthquake standards but the houses? Yeah, no.

I'm not even going to think about what will happen to the Mississippi and all the bridges across it. I was talking to a guy once who did disaster preparedness evaluations and he said the New Madrid scenarios are uniformly horrific. Also that most of them just take a random guess as to where the Mississippi will end up.

Speaking of, we better hope the Army Corps of Engineers can keep up with the silt depositing in the delta before the Mighty Miss decides eh I'm going to start running over there now.

We are ants on the face of a planet that does not care whether we exist.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 31, 2017 01:37 PM (mf5HN)

180 As for blame? Yeah, I don't care. CNN gets
f-bombed live. Of course they deserve it. But this lady knew what the
hell she was doing.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:33 PM (TOk1P)

Ok. Guess I'm just not that cynical yet.
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (mxS7w)


I would never be critical of anyone who is not as cynical as I.

It took me years of special effort to get this far.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017 01:38 PM (TOk1P)

181 Without a doubt, my "favorite" recent incidence of campus racial paranoia was the plastic wrap "noose" found at the University of Maryland.


https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9373


I love the "draw your own conclusions" tweet with the thoughtful emoji.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 01:38 PM (4df7R)

182 Don't forget Europe is being fed condensed left wing American news. This Trump is literally Hitler and the republicans are literally Nazis. Exact parallels to the 1930s. That is all they hear of American politics. They don't get AoS in Europe, the signal is too weak coming across the wireless.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 31, 2017 01:38 PM (dnWSK)

183 Finally able to get out. Now at Brazoria County Fairgrounds with crates and food/water buckets for displaced pets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2017 01:39 PM (SJJ4x)

184 This is not a 100 year flood, it is beyond the 500 year flood mark. More like an 800 year flood.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 31, 2017 01:39 PM (7ZVPa)

185 So Harry Belafonte is racist.

Who knew?

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:40 PM (3myMJ)

186 Freaking out over a Charlie Hebdo cartoon makes you look like the muslims who freaked out over CH's Mohammed cartoon. Just shrug it off.
Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (DQ4Fv)

------------------------

Well, OK. But I reserve the option to freak out over the next stupid statement from a celebrity, corporate CEO,,, or Paul Ryan!

Posted by: RioBravo at August 31, 2017 01:40 PM (giT7q)

187 182 Don't forget Europe is being fed condensed left wing American news. This Trump is literally Hitler and the republicans are literally Nazis. Exact parallels to the 1930s. That is all they hear of American politics. They don't get AoS in Europe, the signal is too weak coming across the wireless.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


Exactly.

To them, saying that Texans are Nazis isn't some kind of outrageous insult -- it's just a neutral reporting of unquestioned facts.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:40 PM (DQ4Fv)

188 Go to any good hardware store, and buy an Automatic Center Punch. A very common machinist's tool, used to create a pilot dimple to give a drill bit an initial bite and to keep the bit from "walking" laterally.

Here's the thing. The Automatic Center Punch has a very sharp, pointed, hardened carbide steel tip. One works the Automatic Center Punch, simply by applying pressure to the tool against the work-surface, until a loud "click" is heard.

On steel, the click is the mechanism driving the carbide tip into the steel to be drilled.

Against tempered auto glass? It shatters INSTANTLY and COMPLETELY.

This is the LOWEST EFFORT WAY to punch out a window for either escape, or (for those who burgle possessions from inside of locked vehicles) the thieves.

Here's an Amazon link. Order it through Ace's page, and Pay the Ewok!

http://tinyurl.com/ybcrl9n8



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2017 01:40 PM (MGCfm)

189 but on the other hand how many people in these areas know the terrain well enough to know whicy direction means safety? "Inland" isn't an answer if it isn't a direct route.
Posted by: 2009Refugee



North on IH-45. Pretty much at that point, anywhere northbound. Further north you go, higher it gets.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 01:41 PM (b/6cr)

190 I live in Houston, and consider this an excellent first person account of Harvey:

http://tinyurl.com/yaqfu8tp

I live in one of the 40-plus inch rainfall zones on the map. The drone video is of the I-45 and Texas FM 518 intersection that I go through once a month or so. The water crossing the interstate (a little north north of the overpass) is Clear Creek. The above stuff is on Page 2 of the post.

Another excellent, separate post by the same author:

http://tinyurl.com/y9dsg7dp

Rain Band 1 that he shows and talks about was BAD. I echo the helpless feeling the writer describes, as I watched that mostly red rain band on my weather app's radar, keep streaming from the south over my location, hour after hour early Sunday morning, while seeing the water in my street keep rising.

Posted by: Gref at August 31, 2017 01:41 PM (AMIL/)

191
I would never be critical of anyone who is not as cynical as I.



It took me years of special effort to get this far.

Posted by: BurtTC

LOL, don't get me wrong. I am plenty cynical. Just feel bad for the people in TX. I can't imagine what it must be like. I had a house burn down, but nothing like this flood.

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2017 01:41 PM (mxS7w)

192 When Linda and I bugged out for Katrina, we called hotels in the College Station area. Second one I called, Homewood Suites, said, "Sure, we allow pets, especially now." So we loaded our 3 felines into carriers and slogged our way there, over 2 days (it took 12 hours to get to Baton Rouge from N.O.)

We'd thought, briefly, "Oh, we could leave them at home with food and water and clean litter boxes." A good thing we didn't, as we wouldn't have been allowed back into the city for a long time. (I might have been able to sneak in a back way, but no telling.)

Short version: Bring the animals. You never know how long it'll be before you get back.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 31, 2017 01:41 PM (HNprX)

193 105
But this wasn't a banana -- it was a peel.

So, by this implication, does the color "yellow" now have racist overtones, because bananas are yellow?
Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)


A discarded banana peel turns brown. So, racist.

Posted by: rickl at August 31, 2017 01:41 PM (xjiRE)

194 It's a millennial flood!

Posted by: RioBravo at August 31, 2017 01:41 PM (giT7q)

195 I don't freak out over anything.Well,okay,maybe a giant spider crawling on me....

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2017 01:41 PM (rmVvL)

196 98 Yeah, ok, I guess we're supposed to say "yay" about the woman telling off the CNN folks on live tv, but hey lady, maybe you could have simply refused to be interviewed in the first place, rather than spewing profanities on live tv.
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Yea, that was my thought too...why did you agree to be interviewed? But then, since it was CNN & Jim Acosta, I didn't care as much. She was telling them off in a way many would like to, about a lot of things.

The only thing better would have been if Michael Moore, Prince of Whales, had been doing the interview. His face would have been great. Tub of Lard that he is.

Posted by: I don't know...check later at August 31, 2017 01:42 PM (V9sPV)

197 Just wait until the New Madrid fault line goes off again.
=====

Dad was an underground storage engineer and he always said that would be the big one.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2017 01:42 PM (MIKMs)

198 @110 "Why, it's one of our boys..."

That is the first of the "new" (non-"Deuce") Army trucks I've seen in this deployment. Those new military trucks are made my Stewart and Stevenson.
In...
Houston.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2017 01:42 PM (H5rtT)

199 181 Without a doubt, my "favorite" recent incidence of campus racial paranoia was the plastic wrap "noose" found at the University of Maryland.


https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9373


I love the "draw your own conclusions" tweet with the thoughtful emoji.
Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at August 31, 2017 01:38 PM (4df7R)

The University is considering eliminating the characters 6, 9, P and Q from alphanumeric usage, due to their close resemblance of noosii.

Posted by: Roy at August 31, 2017 01:42 PM (7n4KQ)

200 redneck army "angels" save national guard ...

twitter.com/michaelkeyes/status/903222264858124289
Posted by: illiniwek at August 31, 2017 01:37 PM (veVl1)

Someone needs to tweet this to the asshole cartoonist at..was it Politico? BRB....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 31, 2017 01:42 PM (ihmYw)

201 Just wait until the New Madrid fault line goes off again.

Sure, the high rises built in the last 30-40 years are built to earthquake standards but the houses? Yeah, no.

I'm not even going to think about what will happen to the Mississippi and all the bridges across it. I was talking to a guy once who did disaster preparedness evaluations and he said the New Madrid scenarios are uniformly horrific. Also that most of them just take a random guess as to where the Mississippi will end up.

Speaking of, we better hope the Army Corps of Engineers can keep up with the silt depositing in the delta before the Mighty Miss decides eh I'm going to start running over there now.

We are ants on the face of a planet that does not care whether we exist.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 31, 2017 01:37 PM (mf5HN)

...

Houses perform surprisingly well in seismic events. They don't have all that much mass, ergo the forces they have to resist are really not all that great.

It's much more about having a complete load path, and yeah you're relying on just common carpentry practice for that in many, many areas.

A lot more attention is paid to seismic potential of central US areas now--Charlotte, I think, is a pretty nasty seismic zone. The new construction will be okay, and to the extent that things were built reasonably well, even the older stuff is going to do better than the scaremongers say it will.

I say this as a structural engineer.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2017 01:43 PM (yL25O)

202 FYI, the water is already way down here SE of town. Most of town drains into the various bayous and creeks, which drain to the Gulf. It does go down fast (one of the reasons you should not wade into floodwaters - they are always moving faster than you think). Stores should be restocking soon (possibly right now). We're holding off another day or two ourselves bc we happened to have tons of stuff before the storm and aren't desperate yet.

I have to say, though, that I have a habit of letting us get to the last few drops of milk, the last slice of bread, the last few doses of medicine, etc., before buying more, and never again will I do that. It was just sheer luck we happened to have plenty of the kids' meds and various supplies on hand last Thursday. I don't want to think about what could have happened if I didn't have albuterol on hand and one or both kids was having bad asthma.

My flood insurance doesn't come up for renewal until next June or so. Thinking I'll call around May and try to convince them I should get a reduction since this 800 or 1000 year event didn't flood this house. (realistically, we are all going to have higher premiums because of this, whether we flooded or not)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 31, 2017 01:43 PM (JPRju)

203 I remember about 10 years ago my old house flooded after 2 feet of rain in 2 weeks. Going down to pump the cellar every few hours. It's exhausting and it's depressing and it wasn't even close to this. I can't imagine what these people have been through, are going through, and are going to go through.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2017 01:44 PM (O5Q3r)

204 Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 31, 2017 01:43 PM

AAAAaaaaahhhh! Your name is a hate crime!!!!

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:44 PM (DQ4Fv)

205 This is not a 100 year flood, it is beyond the 500 year flood mark. More like an 800 year flood.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 31, 2017 01:39 PM (7ZVPa)

Bears repeating

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 31, 2017 01:44 PM (JO9+V)

206 >>But was the guy so stoned that he would have slipped and fallen without the banana peel?


It was a Cute Hippie Chick -

A Scarlet Begonias girl. Rings, Bells, Blues afficianado and all.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 01:44 PM (MyHEM)

207 So if you walk around a campus and randomly say words like "noose", "Confederate" or "banana peel" do the students freeze and fall over like fainting goats?

Cause that could be fun.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:45 PM (3myMJ)

208 Chik Fil A is the greatest fast food chain ever.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at August 31, 2017 01:45 PM (hMwEB)

209 (realistically, we are all going to have higher premiums because of this, whether we flooded or not)

--

Everyone in the state probably will.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 31, 2017 01:45 PM (7ZVPa)

210 207 So if you walk around a campus and randomly say words like "noose", "Confederate" or "banana peel" do the students freeze and fall over like fainting goats?

Cause that could be fun.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:45 PM (3myMJ)


A 21st Century version of "cow tipping".

Posted by: Roy at August 31, 2017 01:46 PM (7n4KQ)

211 All this banana talk is making me very hungry. I don't think I get paid enough bananas for this gig.

Posted by: Gorilla Pundit at August 31, 2017 01:46 PM (V9sPV)

212 New One: Paul Ryan - a profile in courage.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 01:48 PM (cAnNx)

213 Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:35 PM (DQ4Fv)

Except the people there that actually had any willingness to actually confront all sides are now dead. The ones that are left have all chosen to submit to Islam.

Charlie Hebdo is nothing more than a sham now, another example of Islamic violence has succeeding in its goal.

Posted by: Sjg at August 31, 2017 01:48 PM (gDSJf)

214 If you spend government resources in order to be prepared for 500 year events, you won't have any resources for anything else.

Which doesn't work out so well if you think about it.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:32 PM (3myMJ)


In my little town, which is in the path of growth, we spend government resources on planning for 500 year events. Our township engineer is top notch and nothing gets past him. He makes sure that storm water for every subdivision is run-off is directed into properly sized and located run-off basins. Which dilutes the land available for sale - out of necessity.

Guess what? We're denounced as racists because we won't let developers develop in flood plains. Denying poor people the opportunity to live in our exclusive zip code.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 31, 2017 01:48 PM (EgwCt)

215 Finally able to get out. Now at Brazoria County Fairgrounds with crates and food/water buckets for displaced pets. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2017 01:39 PM (SJJ4x)
=====

Thank you. Please let us know which groups are the best for donations and help.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 31, 2017 01:49 PM (MIKMs)

216 60,000 homes flooded in LA?

Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2017 01:49 PM (mxS7w)

217 206 >>But was the guy so stoned that he would have slipped and fallen without the banana peel?


It was a Cute Hippie Chick -

A Scarlet Begonias girl. Rings, Bells, Blues afficianado and all.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 01:44 PM (MyHEM)



I'll take that as a maybe.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 01:49 PM (cAnNx)

218 Don't forget Europe is being fed condensed left wing American news. This Trump is literally Hitler and the republicans are literally Nazis. Exact parallels to the 1930s. That is all they hear of American politics. They don't get AoS in Europe, the signal is too weak coming across the wireless.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


I'm losing patience with this excuse. You can see the bias in the way they write things. Even if you are not given all the facts, or an alternative news source, left wing news should set off your BS detectors at some point.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 31, 2017 01:49 PM (/qEW2)

219 Nood up

Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2017 01:49 PM (b/6cr)

220 Finally able to get out. Now at Brazoria County Fairgrounds with crates and food/water buckets for displaced pets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2017 01:39 PM (SJJ4x)
==========================

Hadrian!! I've been looking for you all day! You're housed at the fairgrounds? I must have missed a step. I think last time I talked to you, you were still in your home. That obviously has changed. What's next? Do you have a sense of when you'll get back in?

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 01:50 PM (lwiT4)

221 Nood. Sure. Why not.

Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 01:50 PM (lwiT4)

222 @ Hadrian. How many people & pets in your group?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2017 01:51 PM (MGCfm)

223 The video of the woman and her child - who have clearly just arrived at dry land and seem a bit shellshocked - it's hard to watch the beginning but you know the big payoff is coming!

This video sums up the disaster porn/voyeuristic nature of the 24 hour news cycle - everybody and everything is just fodder for the beast. Good for that lady for giving those two jerks a verbal beat down.

Not that they're smart enough to know they've just been pwned.

Posted by: Boots at August 31, 2017 01:51 PM (EBwPV)

224 So Harry Belafonte is racist.

Who knew?

-
Harry has been koo koo bananas for a long time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 01:52 PM (Nwg0u)

225 If anyone is still looking for a charity, try Team Rubicon. I've dealt with them for years now. They're all ex special forces that like to go down and get dirty.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2017 01:53 PM (55Qx/)

226 Except the people there that actually had any willingness to actually confront all sides are now dead. The ones that are left have all chosen to submit to Islam.

Charlie Hebdo is nothing more than a sham now, another example of Islamic violence has succeeding in its goal.
Posted by: Sjg


BUT, they have continued publishing Mohammed cartoon even AFTER the massacre.

Examples from 2016:

http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/charlie_hebdo/ 160615charlie1247_full.jpg

http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/charlie_hebdo/ mohCoco.jpg

(Remove spaces in URLs.)

It was rumored that the survivors would "cave" to Islam, but those rumors proved unfounded. I've just had a long email conversation about this very subject with an operative in France.

Got to give them a little slack about this. Remember that 80% of their staff was murdered.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:53 PM (DQ4Fv)

227 re Charlie Hebdo--how much news does Europe see, and what kind, and from whom?
They know nothing, and they know it really good and hard.

Posted by: barbarausa at August 31, 2017 01:53 PM (Elk67)

228 teamrubiconusa.org

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at August 31, 2017 01:54 PM (55Qx/)

229 So Harry Belafonte is racist.

Who knew?

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2017 01:40 PM (3myMJ)

Some have argued that in his famous song the black banana pickers have placed a 'deadly black tarantula' in amongst the bananas for the white 'tally man' to be stung by.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 31, 2017 01:56 PM (EgwCt)

230 Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2017 01:44 PM (MyHEM)

But she didn't take the wheel when you were seeing double, or pay your ticket when you sped, did she now?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 31, 2017 01:58 PM (ihmYw)

231 I know I say this safe and dry in my home right now but...there is no way I'm abandoning my doggehs.

Posted by: Tami at August 31, 2017 01:59 PM (Enq6K)

232 Exactly.

To them, saying that Texans are Nazis isn't some kind of outrageous insult -- it's just a neutral reporting of unquestioned facts.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2017 01:40 PM (DQ4Fv)



Not real interested in taking their point of view as you obviously are, zombie.

As to freaking out, you might look in the mirror as you freak out at a minimum 10x per week.

This isn't a freak out by the way. It's a return of currency in kind. Seeing the French as filthy Nazi collaborators is neutral reporting of unquestioned facts.

And I dislike a return serve insult to the Frogs to be compared to muslims slaughtering innocents-
that is freaking out, zombie. Take a long, look in the mirror.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2017 02:01 PM (NyJwR)

233 >> "/OT Joel Osteen's displays of wealth his home are obscene. There
are people like Rick Warren who donated all their book sale money to
help people. JMO, but if you are gonna have a house that big, you open
it up to needy people...and I'm sure there are some in his flock who are
needy right now.

Heck, one woman took in 16 people!

And he has a guest house?! smh shame on you Olsteen. Shame."

BTW, that's the *Pastors* Osteen; i.e. his wife is calling the shots in that "ministry" too. And you can bet your last "prosperity theology dollar" that she was the determining factor in that decision.

America deserves the Osteens. The consumer culture, the cult of the
therapeutic, the marketing impulse, and the sheer superficiality of
American cultural Christianity probably made the Osteens inevitable.





Posted by: Anonymous 7 at August 31, 2017 02:01 PM (zRi/k)

234 220 Finally able to get out. Now at Brazoria County Fairgrounds with crates and food/water buckets for displaced pets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 31, 2017 01:39 PM (SJJ4x)
==========================

Hadrian!! I've been looking for you all day! You're housed at the fairgrounds? I must have missed a step. I think last time I talked to you, you were still in your home. That obviously has changed. What's next? Do you have a sense of when you'll get back in?
Posted by: grammie winger, Psalm 107: the whole thing, at August 31, 2017 01:50 PM (lwiT4)

=======

Whoa, I missed a step too. Last I knew your driveway was flooded, you and your wife were wrestling over the can of sardines, but you were fine & worrying anout Jack Sock.

Please let us know what happen.

Posted by: Gorilla Fumdro at August 31, 2017 02:12 PM (V9sPV)

235 234 Wow, I typed my name wrong. that's what ya get for playing with socks.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 31, 2017 02:13 PM (V9sPV)

236 I think Hadrian is down there volunteering, not having been evacuated.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 31, 2017 02:14 PM (ihmYw)

237 Screw Paul day late & dollar short Ryan. Haven't sifted thru the comments in this hero thread yet, but has anyone seen the CNN rescue video & screen grabs posted on C.Treehouse that proves the CNN guy somehow had time to switch from his sandals & shorts to boots & pants?

Posted by: BebeDahl at August 31, 2017 02:16 PM (yNyJy)

238 236 I think Hadrian is down there volunteering, not having been evacuated.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 31, 2017 02:14 PM (ihmYw)
------
Thanks Tammy. What a sweetheart he is being.

I am wondering about Jack Sock too, if anyone knows anything.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 31, 2017 02:16 PM (V9sPV)

239 237 Screw Paul day late & dollar short Ryan. Haven't sifted thru the comments in this hero thread yet, but has anyone seen the CNN rescue video & screen grabs posted on C.Treehouse that proves the CNN guy somehow had time to switch from his sandals & shorts to boots & pants?
Posted by: BebeDahl at August 31, 2017 02:16 PM (yNyJy)
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They are talking about it on the new thread. Ryan & CNN guy.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 31, 2017 02:18 PM (V9sPV)

240 I can't figure it out. Why would a banana peel in a tree make someone "paranoid

=====
It doesn't. It's just an opportunity to bash Whitey.

Never let Whitey off the hook.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 31, 2017 02:24 PM (uMMJs)

241 Thanks GG.

Posted by: BebeDahl at August 31, 2017 02:26 PM (yNyJy)

242 The trucks and boats in that video are people from Louisiana, not Texas.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at August 31, 2017 02:27 PM (ABWXA)

243 I am worried about Jack, too; he was sounding a little nervous in his last post about the water rising again after the dams were released.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 31, 2017 02:53 PM (ihmYw)

244 Well, I had a convoy of heavy trucks, pretty sure they were national or Texas guard, in front of me yesterday evening. They weren't from Austin since they were trying to go the wrong way but probably made it to Houston last night depending on the roads and traffic to get there. Rockport, by most accounts, was destroyed. They don't have the flooding like Houston but they were wiped off the map from what I keep hearing. I have donated to Samaritans Purse and Salvation Army. There are fund raisers and supply drives left and right here in Austin.

Posted by: lin-duh fell at August 31, 2017 03:05 PM (kufk0)

245
You know, she probably was like "yeah ok," and after the questions and talking about it she got angry as she gathered her thoughts together and pissed off as the dumb reporter thought the woman wanted to give more than a ten second answer.
Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2017 01:20 PM (cAnNx)


Maybe. What I saw though, was an imaginary bubble over her head that reads "Perpetual Victim."
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2017

*
*
She said she spent 4-5 days waiting for someone to come get them. Why didn't she bug out earlier instead of this learned helplessness thing we saw in Katrina? Twelve years ago there were denizens of this town who drove their (perfectly serviceable) cars downtown and strolled into the Superdome. They could have driven out of the path of the storm, but didn't. Exasperating.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 31, 2017 03:22 PM (HNprX)

246 http://tinyurl.com/yaqfu8tp

Of course, the author, just can't help himself at the end of his article from blaming republicans and their denial of "climate change".


"Texas is run by Republicans, many of whom have disavowed climate
change. About six or seven years ago, when Governor Greg Abbott was the
Texas Attorney General joining a climate change lawsuit against the
federal government, I was still science reporter at the Chronicle,andwe
spoke for about an hour on the telephone. What was most striking to me
is that here was a lawyer, with practically no science background,
arguing against the scientific claims of scientists. How did he know
more about atmospheric science than they did?

If Houston is to remain the prosperous, vibrant, great city that it
was before Harvey, we are going to have to take a hard look at our
unfettered development and willingness to let almost anyone build almost
anywhere, including in floodplains. Our state officials are going to
have to recognize that these events will be possible again, especially
in a warmer world. I'm not holding my breath for all that to happen. And
as dark as these last five days have been, that may be the biggest
tragedy of all"


They just can't help themselves, can they??.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at August 31, 2017 03:53 PM (TPimP)

247

Im in Houston. Police from Missouri, Kansas, Natl Guard, Houston Police, busses and busses of LE at Meyerland Plaza Mall

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2017 03:57 PM (10bIS)

248

Fire dept and FEMA going house to house condemning homes and looking for bodies

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2017 04:05 PM (10bIS)

249

Neighbor with 2 teen boys going around neighborhood helping people clean out their homes

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2017 04:07 PM (10bIS)

250 I LOVE that woman who told off the CNN reporterette.

Posted by: m at August 31, 2017 05:13 PM (p6cpl)

251 >>>110 Rednecks: Is there anything they can't do?

https://tinyurl.com/y967dne7
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 31, 2017 01:20 PM (Nwg0u)

That's outstanding.

Posted by: m at August 31, 2017 05:40 PM (p6cpl)

252 Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2017 03:57 PM (10bIS)

Daughter and MIL are well, I trust?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 31, 2017 05:57 PM (ihmYw)

253 Daughter and MIL well, thanks be to God

Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2017 06:50 PM (10bIS)

254 I hope all Morons and 'Ettes safe from this disaster.

Here is the good news:

There are 30,000 National Guard being deployed to the Houston area in addition to those from neighboring states.

Before the storm this is in place: recovery, often waiting a few counties above the line of the storm. Huge, huge semi trucks of disaster goods. They wait in position til it is safe and/or they can get through the trees blocking or floods blocking roads. Samaritan's Purse is also on the ground,now, along with Salvation Army serving foods.

And you do not know some of your neighbors til this. The photos of people helping people should renew your faith in humanity. We are still Americans, in spite of the MSM messaging.

I have relatives reporting military jets flying west over MS and LA.

FL police have sent boats.

From experience in other hurricanes, every available electrical utility truck and crews are en route or there. Many will be in Texas for a month...and they come from all over the country, not just neighboring states. When storms happen neighboring states help big time.

They are also using the military to move sick patients from hospitals with damage...a far cry from the delays NOLA had when Charity and another hospital lost generators and patients died.

The President and his Generals are on this. Lessons have been learned from the past and there is nothing being left not attended. They are asking for calls to Emergency Mgmt if needs not met.

You are going to see the might of the USA like never before. Keep praying, as God is with us. You can rebuild your house, memories (photos) will be lost, but it is and will be done. I am praying for no additional losses of life, and for the comfort of God to give peace and good health to all as the waters recede. Prayers for the leader's of this country, our President, VP and his cabinet, to show how recovery is done via teamwork. VP, Mrs. Pence and others were in Texas today with Gov. Abbot. I thank God for these people and for our President, who not only builds it, he wants it better and before deadline.

It will be over a year before that area will look normal, but, in Texas, they may prove me wrong!

Have faith in abundance. All will be well.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 31, 2017 06:51 PM (J5mzk)

255 Correction above: Military HELICOPTERS not jets.

Hold on, Texas, help is on the way.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 31, 2017 07:16 PM (J5mzk)

256 I'm in Victoria TX. We got hit pretty hard, but everywhere I look I keep thinking "it could have been so much worse" my house suffered minor water damage due to an already leaking roof i'd stupidly put off fixing, but I put down some buckets in the living room and that caught almost all the water that got into the house. Will need to fix the roof ASAP. No electric since late Saturday night. Staying with friends who had there electric back on by Sunday afternoon. we were without water for about 3 days. My parents lost there fence and a decorative pillar off the front door. Lots of downed power lines, trees, fences. We are pulling through.

Posted by: doug whiddon at August 31, 2017 07:53 PM (auidT)

257
Check the 'Zello' app on a smart phone. Monitor "The Cajun Navy" channel (amongst many other channels) for 'on the ground, ongoing drama' in SE Texas...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at August 31, 2017 09:32 PM (4DCSq)

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