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I Need to Find a Dark Room

In that dark room, there should be either a brick wall or a pail of water, it doesn't matter which. I shall then proceed to either smash my head or dunk it until the lights go dim and this poisonous world recedes into the cool, blessed darkness.

Washington Post: When 'free speech' becomes a political weapon

First of all, I'd like to point out one tiny detail: THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF FREE SPEECH. If you thought the title of the article was perhaps unnecessarily hyperbolic, well, you'd be wrong. The entire thing is a dog's breakfast of unsupported tropes, lefty shibboleths and insane leaps of "logic".

The author of this garbage is the Douglas Family Chair in American culture, history, and literary and interdisciplinary studies at Skidmore College. IOW, a credentialed idiot. She atarts:

Here’s the dilemma college presidents face in the fall: Either uphold free speech on campus and risk violent counterprotests, or ban conservative provocateurs and confirm the “freedom of speech” crisis on campuses. Either way their institution’s legitimacy is undermined.

Or they could, you know, support BOTH side's right to demonstrate, chant, march, pamphleteer etc..and crack heads if either one gets violent.

I can't quote the whole thing, and selected excerpts won't do it justice, but I'll try.

But that doesn’t diminish the extent to which the alt-right and conservatives are using “free speech” to attack and destroy colleges and universities, which have long promoted different variations of the internationalist, secular, cosmopolitan, multicultural liberalism that marks the thinking of educated elites of both parties.

Actually, this sentence is pretty accurate. The problem is that " the internationalist, secular, cosmopolitan, multicultural liberalism that marks the thinking of educated elites of both parties" is poison. It's wrong. It's EVIL. So yeah, maybe using free speech to attack and destroy it is a pretty good idea. It's the entire reason the 1st Amendment was created in the first place.

She spends a good deal of time talking about the 1950s and resistance to the Communist Party of the US, and even seems to admit that CPUSA needed to be opposed:

So anticommunist liberals made a series of arguments that justified denying communists these rights on account of their disingenuous intentions and totalitarian ideology. Most famously, liberal activist Arthur Schlesinger Jr. argued that communists hid behind the First Amendment to attack liberal democracy, using it as a shield as they sought to destroy the democratic system that upheld those rights.

But then she follows it up with this doozy of a paragraph.

Schlesinger understood there weren’t enough communists in the United States to actually foment revolution. But there were enough to divide progressive forces and thus create an opportunity for conservative Republicans to take power and repeal the New Deal, which he believed would in turn destabilize American capitalism and possibly tilt the balance of international power to the Soviets. Liberals would be chumps to let a principled commitment to “freedom of speech” undercut the pragmatic goal of political survival, which was the only way to ensure progress in civil rights and social welfare.

"We had to destroy the village in order to save it" logic at it's finest. So CPUSA needed to be opposed because it was interfering with the sacred leftist agenda, never mind that it was interfering by advocating for taking it to it's logical conclusion, which was anathema to most Americans and might make them resist the sacred cows of the left.

There's more, but it's all just unhinged lunacy. Read the whole thing, but I warn you, your brain will be reeling afterwards.

Democracy Dies in Delusion.

(P.S. I just saw an open thread go up, I put it back in draft because OM didn't know I was writing this one.)

Posted by: WeirdDave at 03:46 PM




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1 Forget it, Dave.

It's Antifatown.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 22, 2017 03:46 PM (CMbMd)

2 nd

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:47 PM (8XRCm)

3 rd

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:47 PM (8XRCm)

4 th

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:47 PM (8XRCm)

5 Ahhh, that fresh new thread smell.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 22, 2017 03:47 PM (jxbfJ)

6 Here I thought you were going to take up B&W photography

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 03:47 PM (pPKG5)

7 Stomped like goolag stomps on white females.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 22, 2017 03:48 PM (mcI77)

8 Shortest-lived open thread ever.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 03:48 PM (0mRoj)

9 WTF? Last thread vaporized?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2017 03:48 PM (R+p/Q)

10
Link hits a paywall, Ace.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:48 PM (8XRCm)

11 Poof!

Posted by: IP at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (yaZEj)

12
Okay, is this thread going to be stable?

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (S/hVx)

13 Free speach is when everyone agrees with eachother
Leftism 101

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (pPKG5)

14 Washington Post: When 'free speech' becomes a political weapon

This is just a rehash of Marcuse's "Repressive Tolerance"

http://freebeacon.com/blog/repressive-tolerance/

Posted by: The Kyriarchical Hat at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (vBeA5)

15 Link hits a paywall, Ace.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:48 PM (8XRCm)

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err Weird Dave

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (8XRCm)

16 Ouch - that hurt.

Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (g/QFw)

17 Yes! AOSHQ dysfunction, nobody else comes close.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (mBYZv)

18 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (S/hVx)

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When we stop horsing aroud??

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (8XRCm)

19 Now THIS is the only reason to have a new thread. I don't care if the "old" one passes 2000 comments.

That said, I don't call them Demunists, or Commiecrats, just for pizazz. Those portmanteau words are spot on.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (ujg0T)

20 Fuck the WaPo. All they're doing is running interference for domestic terrorist group Antifa.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (0mRoj)

21 Just assume I am banshee screeching at that bint at deafen all the dogs levels.

I continue to repeat my generous offer. I will accept that hate speech be banned so long as I am the one to decide what that is.


grammie winger, sorry, but you are going to be thrown onto the pyre post haste.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (mf5HN)

22 A repost from last July, on point:

One of the things that makes us Americans and not Europeans has been our commitment to civil liberties, including the right to free speech.

But there's a pernicious movement afoot to read the 14th Amendment right to "liberty" to override things in the Bill of Rights such as the right to free speech. You see, you can't have "liberty" if someone offends you with their speech. This current phase of progressivism is being played out at a college or university near you.

The likes of Obama loves them the 14th Amendment. The rest of the Constitution, not so much.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (+7/1f)

23 There is an alternative. They can uphold free speech on campus, and shut down the violent protests from the left (which are not free speech) by using appropriate force.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (7ZVPa)

24 Link hits a paywall, Ace.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:48 PM (8XRCm)

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err Weird Dave
Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (8XRCm)

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I just assumed it was Ace ..... because.... enstompening.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (8XRCm)

25 sliding into totalitarianism.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (XFue2)

26 "But that doesn't diminish the extent to which the alt-right and
conservatives are using "free speech" to attack and destroy colleges and
universities, which have long promoted different variations of the
internationalist, secular, cosmopolitan, multicultural liberalism that
marks the thinking of educated elites of both parties."


Oh my....aren't you....special.

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2017 03:50 PM (Enq6K)

27 Open thread saved in draft? Like, was it full of valuable content?

Posted by: IP at August 22, 2017 03:51 PM (yaZEj)

28 You are just stalling now

Posted by: MAC SOG at August 22, 2017 03:51 PM (QPdNE)

29 Idiot du jour .

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 22, 2017 03:51 PM (glJL/)

30 18 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (S/hVx)

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When we stop horsing aroud??
Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (8XRCm)

Quit trying to stirrup trouble.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 03:51 PM (0mRoj)

31 The WaPo is the paper of the IC.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 22, 2017 03:51 PM (XFue2)

32 @ 18

Rein yourself in, champ.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 03:51 PM (S/hVx)

33 the density of the lies is impressive.

Should be completely impervious to rain, snow or logic.

Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 03:52 PM (4KTzv)

34 What I've learned is that political violence works, and is a Good Thing. So, too, are efforts to suppress opinions differing from my own, and doxxing is altogether jake-aloo.
Are these people really sure they want to play under these new rules? I suspect they haven't thought this thing through.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 22, 2017 03:52 PM (fA1SL)

35 Well she certainly looks like shithead leftist.

Posted by: wooga at August 22, 2017 03:52 PM (5/Ej2)

36 You're perfectly free to express any thought that I already agree with.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2017 03:52 PM (Mouru)

37 Scare quotes on "free speech" lol

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2017 03:52 PM (rmVvL)

38 "alt-right and conservatives are using "free speech" to attack and destroy colleges and universities"

How are they doing that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2017 03:53 PM (iVOAv)

39
There's either free speech or there isn't. Total binary, like a light switch. On or off. There's no 'continuum' of allowable speech. Outside of yelling 'Fire!' in a crowded movie theater.

There's no John Kerry level 'nuance' involved. If the leftists don't understand this they deserve every ounce of pain they are about to endure. Or should endure. I'm not so sure it's not already too late.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 22, 2017 03:53 PM (EgwCt)

40 "The author of this garbage is the Douglas Family Chair in American culture, history, and literary and interdisciplinary studies at Skidmore College."


Went to school in the area and we referred to them as Skidmark girls.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 03:53 PM (OD2ni)

41 "The author of this garbage is the Douglas Family Chair in American culture, history, and literary and interdisciplinary studies at Skidmore
College."

Here's how Skidmore College grandly self-describes itself:

"In keeping with the college's founding principle of linking theoretical with applied learning, the Skidmore curriculum balances a commitment to
the liberal arts and sciences with preparation for professions, careers,
and community leadership. Education in the classroom, laboratory, and
studio is enhanced by co-curricular and field experience opportunities
of broad scope."

And here's the grade for scholastic rigor awarded to Skidmore by the whatwilltheylearn Web site: a big fat "D".

A Skidmore alumnus may well have taken no classes at all in the following areas: literature, economics, U.S. history or government, mathematics, and foreign language. None of those are required to graduate.

Tuition costs over fifty grand a year.

It's a special-snowflake production line. A very costly one.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 22, 2017 03:53 PM (ujwCG)

42
Link hits a paywall, Ace.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:48 PM (8XRCm)



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err Weird Dave


It doesn't for me. *Shrug* Count yourself lucky, you don't have to read it.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 22, 2017 03:53 PM (0otiP)

43 Horse puns?

I like paste!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2017 03:54 PM (5/Ej2)

44 How are they doing that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2017 03:53 PM (iVOAv)

Yes I want to know so I can

Posted by: MAC SOG at August 22, 2017 03:54 PM (QPdNE)

45 See, this is what gets me sliding from "just defending myself and my loved ones, otherwise goodwill to all" to "since you f***ing f***ers won't stop trying I have to conquer everything and everyone to defend myself and my loved ones".

Caesar started out destroying pirates.

I'll see your f***ing safe spaces and raise you "Making The World Safe For Sanity".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 22, 2017 03:54 PM (AM1GF)

46 Ace stared at the sun yesterday,didn't he?

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2017 03:54 PM (rmVvL)

47 How is 'Skidmore' not the punchline to a Gilbert Godfried bit?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 22, 2017 03:54 PM (xJa6I)

48 -Stir up the country in a mildish Civil War
-Global Economy and USA economy finally crashes
-profit

Posted by: Not You at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (XFue2)

49 During the Cultural Revolution, the Red Guards made the same points.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (Mouru)

50 When they tear down statues or beat up opponents, that is free speech.

When someone offers a differing viewpoint from a podium, it is violence.


Their violence is free speech, our free speech is violence.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (7ZVPa)

51 It's time we had a National Conversation about National Conversation

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (vOnXw)

52 The author of this garbage is the Douglas Family Chair in American
culture, history, and literary and interdisciplinary studies at Skidmore
College.



Ah, good old Skidmore where the rich girls try to dress down when out on the town. Bib overalls with pearl necklaces and diamond earings. But it is no longer an all girls school.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (mpXpK)

53 Someone needs to Sowell this bint with 3 questions:

1) Compared to what?

2) At what cost?

3) What hard evidence do you have of this?


Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (Enq6K)

54 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (S/hVx)

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When we stop horsing aroud??
Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM (8XRCm)

Quit trying to stirrup trouble.
Posted by: Insomniac



Neigh, I say! Neigh!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (R+p/Q)

55 Small consolation but the first several comments I saw for the article were sharply critical.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (0mRoj)

56 When you "destroy" something using Free Speech, it means that your argument was more convincing. That these brain damaged suckers of cock have an issue with that simply means that they know their position is untenable.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (QQ+il)

57 That chair is off its rocker.

Posted by: The Douglas Family Ottoman at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (Mouru)

58 In an alternate reality, I am not really robbing the bank. Instead, I am making a withdrawal. Not really a withdrawal, more like a loan which I will never repay because it isn't a loan. It's more like a grant, because I need the money, and the bank has too much.

If there was some way to spread the wealth around so everyone gets their fair share, we wouldn't have to wave these guns around, and forcibly remove money from the till. Because this money is owed to me. I've worked hard for nothing, and now I want to be paid.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (m9X4Y)

59 "46 Ace stared at the sun yesterday,didn't he?
Posted by: steevy"


So Ace is really Trump. It all makes sense now.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (OD2ni)

60 Ben Carson or Alllen West will be our Pinochet.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (XFue2)

61 Free speech never attacked and destroyed anything: if an argument can not stand up to criticism was it valid in the first place? Free speech for me not for thee is horseshit.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (0OmEj)

62 Schlesinger understood there weren't enough communists in the United States to actually foment revolution.
***
And yet in 2008 the new left, which was created by the Soviets, managed to get one of their own elected to the presidency, and currently control the leadership of both political parties.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (eSx+E)

63 There is no compromising or bridging the gap with this insanity.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (R3csX)

64 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa

When we stop horsing aroud??
Posted by: fixerupper

Quit trying to stirrup trouble.
Posted by: Insomniac


Looks like we've been saddled with one of THOSE threads. Wonder what spurred this one on.



Neigh, I say! Neigh!

Posted by: rickb223

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (AM1GF)

65 I once wished the WaPoo would just go away, but we need it. We need it to remind us that these people, these sentiments actually exist in what is regarded as coming from a moral authority that is above reproach.

This isn't some freshman college kid saying things like this. It's someone who feels comfortable enough in their own "freedom of speech" to espouse limiting ours.

Posted by: IP at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (yaZEj)

66 "Ah, good old Skidmore where the rich girls try to dress down when out on the town. Bib overalls with pearl necklaces and diamond earings. But it is no longer an all girls school.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party"


They always stood out like a sore thumb at The Parting Glass.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (OD2ni)

67 this absolutely infuriating headline I saw on yahoo news makes clear:"As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"(only if you ignore the prior 18 months when antifa was vandalizing the venues of conservative speakers -- or are you equating conservatives with neo-Nazis?)
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Look -- its in the script, they have a script and they are going to run through it.

Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (hy7SF)

68 willowed:

502 AFTER gays spent a decade in a frenzy of bareback, creating an ecosystem where a previously rare virus (HIV) spread like wildfire, Reagan caused the AIDS epidemic by failing to mention it in a speech where liberals wanted him to mention it. Two weeks later, he finally mentioned AIDS, but the narrative was set forever: Reagan caused AIDS.

AFTER Antifa spent years smashing shit up and wreaking violence on conservatives, and AFTER the Democratic Party spent decades intentionally riling up racial resentment and rage, Trump says "both sides" in a tweet, then two days later blamed right-wingers, but BOOM, the narrative was already set forever: Trump caused violence

Posted by: zombie at August 22, 2017 03:29 PM (DQ4Fv)


Here is the new narrative as this absolutely infuriating headline I saw on yahoo news makes clear:

"As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"

(only if you ignore the prior 18 months when antifa was vandalizing the venues of conservative speakers -- or are you equating conservatives with neo-Nazis?)

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (6kP6G)

69 Hubvy has a dark room.. Fully fitted out for silver/platinum/palladium printing. Unfortunately, his photography genius has gone the way of the dodo. Mostly digital now bit his darkroom setup is a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (99Nt9)

70 If a lib can't win an argument they either change the subject or they tell their opponent to shut up.

Libs change the subject and say "shut up" a lot. Like all the time.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2017 03:58 PM (8b+oT)

71 I love how these pinheads always base their dopey premise on the baked in knowledge that anything right leaning is wrong.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 22, 2017 03:58 PM (WLK0w)

72
Ha! I just saw a good comment from OregonMuse. Upon refresh it was gone!

I always suspected he was MUMR.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 22, 2017 03:58 PM (EgwCt)

73 47 How is 'Skidmore' not the punchline to a Gilbert Godfried bit?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 22, 2017 03:54 PM (xJa6I)

...Who _RAPED_ and _KILLED_ a girl in 1990!

Posted by: Hikaru at August 22, 2017 03:58 PM (CMbMd)

74 Shorter article: Ideas divergent from leftist dogma are dangerous and must be stopped.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 03:58 PM (0mRoj)

75 Gah! Gonna give Banshee a spin. Neck and shoulder muscles still strained. Sex and hiking all weekend did not help.

Layers Horde!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (XFue2)

76 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 03:49 PM

I predict 1 hr 25 minutes and 400 comments
Stable enough for ya?

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (pPKG5)

77 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa

When we stop horsing aroud??
Posted by: fixerupper

Quit trying to stirrup trouble.
Posted by: Insomniac

Looks like we've been saddled with one of THOSE threads. Wonder what spurred this one on.

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Boredom.

Mane-ly.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (8XRCm)

78 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa

When we stop horsing aroud??
Posted by: fixerupper

Quit trying to stirrup trouble.
Posted by: Insomniac

Looks like we've been saddled with one of THOSE threads. Wonder what spurred this one on.



Neigh, I say! Neigh!

Posted by: rickb223

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone


Nag, Nag, Nag

Posted by: Josey Wales at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (m9X4Y)

79 Here is the new narrative as this absolutely infuriating headline I saw on yahoo news makes clear:

"As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"



Yahoo is a complete joke and gone complete SJW.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (493sH)

80 "shibboleths"

?? Are they good with an IPA or a Chardonnay?



Posted by: dananjcon at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (WLK0w)

81 I'm so old I remember when you caused violence on campus you got thrown out. That system seemed to work pretty well.

Why are people so afraid of liberal children?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (/tuJf)

82 "Ah, good old Skidmore where the rich girls try to dress down when out on the town. Bib overalls with pearl necklaces and diamond earings. But it is no longer an all girls school.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party"




I am surprised the Dykes From Hell did not have a fit about that, a la Mills College ("womyn's" college in Oaktown, search-engine-other-than-Google it)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (ujg0T)

83 I'm expecting big noise tonight in PHX!

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (bc2Lc)

84 There's no communist state on this planet that is joyous, fun or accommodating.

Why the fuck do they want to turn this place into a commie town shithole?

Posted by: Sponge at August 22, 2017 04:00 PM (xttKs)

85 (only if you ignore the prior 18 months when antifa was vandalizing the
venues of conservative speakers -- or are you equating conservatives
with neo-Nazis?)>>>

Yes yes we are equating the 2.

Posted by: MSM at August 22, 2017 04:00 PM (r5KeJ)

86 "As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"
==

"In an last-ditch effort to prevent President Trump's election, the 'antifa' has traveled back in time to shut down the 1999 WTO meeting in Seattle."

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 22, 2017 04:00 PM (10LGw)

87 55
Small consolation but the first several comments I saw for the article were sharply critical.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 03:55 PM (0mRoj)

I've read quite a few of them...haven't found one that agrees with her...yet.

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2017 04:00 PM (Enq6K)

88 So what the fascist bint is saying is that universities are tasked with the agenda of inculcating "progressive" thought into the mushy little heads of their students, and conservative ideas might expose the idiocy of those ideas. Therefore, the expression of conservative thought should be restricted. You can't have the snowflakes starting to think for themselves, you know.

Got it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 22, 2017 04:00 PM (Mouru)

89 66 They always stood out like a sore thumb at The Parting Glass.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (OD2ni)

I don't remember that place but we are talking about almost 50 years ago.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (mpXpK)

90 But that doesn't diminish the extent to which the alt-right and
conservatives are using free speech to attack and destroy colleges and
universities
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Most non-leftists believe the universities have become nothing more then sources of indoctrination.

If this is false, allowing people to make the claim on campus is the best way to show it.

The clearest way to prove it is to ban such individuals from the campus on the grounds that hearing alternative views is too dangerous.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (eSx+E)

91 (only if you ignore the prior 18 months when antifa was vandalizing the venues of conservative speakers -- or are you equating conservatives with neo-Nazis?)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (6kP6G)
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Oh, you know, six of one, half dozen of another.

Posted by: bluebell at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (UoSKV)

92 Sometimes you can only stand and marvel. It's like those 180 car pile-ups you sometimes see on the news. You wonder how someone can pile up that much stupidity on one pile.
According to this Tofu-for brains, the whole Free Speech crisis is a nefarious plot of the alt-right!

I would start work on an anti-lunacy surface to surface missile only I know that no possible targeting system would be able to decide what to hit, there are simply too many targets!

Posted by: JB1000, EAJ at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (16OL0)

93 >>>>>A repost from last July, on point:



One of the things that makes us Americans and not Europeans has been
our commitment to civil liberties, including the right to free speech.



But there's a pernicious movement afoot to read the 14th Amendment
right to "liberty" to override things in the Bill of Rights such as the
right to free speech. You see, you can't have "liberty" if someone
offends you with their speech. This current phase of progressivism is
being played out at a college or university near you.



The likes of Obama loves them the 14th Amendment. The rest of the Constitution, not so much.
.
.
.That will backfire on the liberals, trust me history is our guide on that.

Liberals have tried to do the same thing with Gun Control since the early 1960s and it has backfired big time on them at the polls and more States than ever have some form of Constitutionally Carry than ever before.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (0pcwX)

94 Why the fuck do they want to turn this place into a commie town shithole?
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Because they are miserable. When everyone else is miserable they won't have to look at anyone who is happy.

Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (D7NV+)

95 Here's the dilemma college presidents face in the fall: Either uphold free speech on campus and risk violent counterprotests, or ban conservative provocateurs and confirm the "freedom of speech" crisis on campuses. Either way their institution's legitimacy is undermined.

Question: Is Charles Murray a "conservative provocateur"?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (6kP6G)

96 "Yahoo is a complete joke and gone complete SJW.

Posted by: TheQuietMan"


There is video online of Yahoo's 2016 election night coverage with Katie Couric. Couric's scowls as the night wore on will bring joy to your heart.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (OD2ni)

97 >>>I shall then proceed to either smash my head or dunk it until the lights go dim and this poisonous world recedes into the cool, blessed darkness.

Nah, don't do that.

Posted by: m at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (p6cpl)

98 She's a communist pretending to be an anti-communist so that she can use the communist tactics that she describes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 22, 2017 04:02 PM (/qEW2)

99 "As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"

Damn, and I thought I had the Big Lie technique perfected. These guys have taken it to whole new levels.

Posted by: Joseph Goebbels at August 22, 2017 04:02 PM (0mRoj)

100 84 They keep trying and Leftists will tell you they will get it right yet only if you give them another chance.

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 04:02 PM (pPKG5)

101 Schlesinger understood there weren't enough communists in the United States to actually foment revolution. But there were enough to divide progressive forces and thus create an opportunity for conservative Republicans to take power and repeal the New Deal, which he believed would in turn destabilize American capitalism and possibly tilt the balance of international power to the Soviets. Liberals would be chumps to let a principled commitment to "freedom of speech" undercut the pragmatic goal of political survival, which was the only way to ensure progress in civil rights and social welfare.

-
You put the lime in the coconut, mix 'em both together.
Put the lime in the coconut den you feel better

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 22, 2017 04:02 PM (Nwg0u)

102 The left has placed their greatest and best hope in a gang of unemployed malcontents living in their mom's basement.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2017 04:02 PM (8b+oT)

103 "In an last-ditch effort to prevent President Trump's election, the 'antifa' has traveled back in time to shut down the 1999 WTO meeting in Seattle."
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 22, 2017 04:00 PM (10LGw)




Which is REALLY odd, given Trump's penchant for economic nationalism and skepticism to globalism. Trump was too young back then and up to his neck in real estate deals, but were such a conference going on today and not then, Trump would be opposition stumping outside it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2017 04:02 PM (ujg0T)

104 Why the fuck do they want to turn this place into a commie town shithole?
***
Because this time will be different because we will be the ones in charge!

Seriously that's what the left says today...and the last few times of course.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2017 04:02 PM (eSx+E)

105 >>"In an last-ditch effort to prevent President Trump's election, the 'antifa' has traveled back in time to shut down the 1999 WTO meeting in Seattle."

And have shown up at every WTO meeting since just to break shit and cause violence.

Brave defenders of freedom.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (/tuJf)

106 95. Yes. He's a nazi, and you're a nazi sympathizer. It's a simple as that

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (fA1SL)

107 Why the fuck do they want to turn this place into a commie town shithole?

-----

Mans inner urge to lord over other humans.

Simple.As.That.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (8XRCm)

108 81 Why are people so afraid of liberal children?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2017 03:59 PM (/tuJf)

Greed.

Getting on the wrong side of the Trustafarians means no more of their parents money finding its way into your coffers.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (CMbMd)

109 I recall reading sometime in the mid to late 1960s - and I'm probably paraphrasing a bit - that Gus Hall, long time chairman of the US Commies (CPUSA) was carrying on about the 1st Amendment and all that, and someone at this appearance said "so you believe in free speech for the Birch Society?" And Hall promptly replied, "no, they don't deserve free speech because they are trying to take it away from others."

same old same old. demand something, get it, then try to make sure no one who disagrees with you has the same right. Left was probably sure that Pres Hillary would go even further that Obama in giving them everything they wanted, then Trump came along and threw gravel in the gears. If the Sup Ct won't give you what you want, maybe mob action will.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (ILitO)

110 I had a similar convo at work about the intolerance millennials have for free speech nowadays, esp on college campuses. The hypothesis is it comes from kids growing up taught to be nice and kind and never hurt other people's feelings. So when they are released from their cocoon to the real world the reality of being surrounded by people who never care about others' feelings, and being nice and kind, damages their worldview psyche and they are now overreacting.

And this was from LIBERAL baby boomer coworkers, mind you, saying this. Maybe there is an awakening to the ridiculousness after all. Maybe people are getting Woke, as the left likes to say.

Posted by: LizLem at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (hvf9s)

111
Skidmore College--850 acres surrounded by reality, located in Saratoga Springs, NY.

I drive by it somewhat frequently. The liberal effluvia is visible in the air.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (S/hVx)

112 My whole life is a dark room.

Posted by: Lydia Deetz at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (XJQnk)

113 "89 66 They always stood out like a sore thumb at The Parting Glass.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (OD2ni)

I don't remember that place but we are talking about almost 50 years ago.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party"


Great Irish pub on Lake Ave in downtown Saratoga. Pretty sure it is still there.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (OD2ni)

114 i'm waiting for jenny craig to be declared a hate group.

then, i shall sew like the wind.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (AxFdW)

115 Not on a college campus so I can't get worked up about this.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (z/Ubi)

116 They keep trying and Leftists will tell you they will get it right yet only if you give them another chance.


Yep. Venezuela's problems are only because the entire place is run by Mexicans.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (Mouru)

117 Question: Is Charles Murray a "conservative provocateur"?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (6kP6G)

Any ideas not in perfect conformity with their own are violent, and therefore must be met with violence.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (0mRoj)

118 Why the fuck do they want to turn this place into a commie town shithole?

=================

Because they are miserable. When everyone else is miserable they won't have to look at anyone who is happy.

Posted by: simplemind
-----
This. They're already in the shit hole and want us to join them.

Posted by: Dang at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (8b+oT)

119 Washington Post blah blah blah.

I'd like to remind everyone of Gell-Mann for a moment.

If it's WaPo, it's Crap-o. And dishonest at that. Pretty much by definition.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (H8S+R)

120 She's a communist pretending to be an anti-communist so that she can use the communist tactics that she describes
==========
Hmmm

A concern troll, pretending to be "un-concerned" so that he can use the concern troll tactics . . .
Is this a thing?

naw couldn't be . . .

Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (xdvLt)

121 So CPUSA needed to be opposed because it was interfering with the sacred leftist agenda, never mind that it was interfering by advocating for taking it to it's logical conclusion, which was anathema to most Americans and might make them resist the sacred cows of the left.

---

so there are enemies to the left?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (PNcou)

122 Question: Is Charles Murray a "conservative provocateur"?


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:01 PM (6kP6G)

---------------------------
Every speaking conservative is a provocateur. And if one has ever written about bell curves then double double provocative.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 22, 2017 04:05 PM (SsblQ)

123 106 95. Yes. He's a nazi, and you're a nazi sympathizer. It's a simple as that
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 22, 2017 04:03 PM (fA1SL)

Some day, through hard work and dedication, I hope to move up from mere sympathizer to full Nazi.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 22, 2017 04:05 PM (0mRoj)

124 Your 'Free Speech' ends where my precious feelings begin.
Hater

Posted by: Leftist Fuckwit III at August 22, 2017 04:05 PM (QM5S2)

125 "Now that we've used free speech to get our lefty butts into the seat of power, it's time for the rest of you to SHUT UP!"

Posted by: Socratease at August 22, 2017 04:06 PM (FqHs5)

126 irongrampa: "The liberal effluvia is visible in the air."

Smug Alert!

Posted by: Ranger McFriendly at August 22, 2017 04:06 PM (H8S+R)

127 Media going ape over Trump's Arizona gathering.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (IqV8l)

128 I wonder if she thought the eclipse was racist?

Posted by: tu3031 at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (O5Q3r)

129 Translation: if you're really a conservative and a capitalist, you should support banning conservative speech on campus, because I support banning communist speech on campus because it might harm capitalism (ie. socialism).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (/qEW2)

130 123. Go and read aloud from one of Reagan's speeches in a public place. Then you'll get the cosplay gear.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (fA1SL)

131 Charles Murray ran an experiment when he sent a draught of his new book on elite stratification to various colleges, to rank between far left and far right

most marked it solidly middle, or maybe lightly left.

of course, Sargon of Akkad is lightly left too, and he's a garbage human now apparently.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (evq2A)

132 "But that doesn't diminish the extent to which the alt-right and conservatives are using "free speech" to attack and destroy colleges and universities, which have long promoted different variations of the internationalist, secular, cosmopolitan, multicultural liberalism that marks the thinking of educated elites of both parties."
-----------------------------------
-The dogmas of the ruling class must be protected from any argument!!!!

-Why is "free speech" in quotation marks but "liberalism" is not? If free speech for all is not one of your values, in what sense are you a "liberal?"

-In what sense does shutting yourself off from everyone who disagrees with you, from Aristotle to Burke, from Cicero to Jefferson, make you "educated?"

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (0jtPF)

133 120 She's a communist pretending to be an anti-communist so that she can use the communist tactics that she describes
==========
Hmmm

A concern troll, pretending to be "un-concerned" so that he can use the concern troll tactics . . .
Is this a thing?

naw couldn't be . . .
Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 04:04 PM (xdvLt)

Something, something, something... Tomato Bisque...

Posted by: Hikaru at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (CMbMd)

134 Isn't it just the opposite? Neonazis emerged to fight Antifas, after antifa chased off the average Trump supporters.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (vOnXw)

135 "Yahoo is a complete joke and gone complete SJW."

The only thing redeemable about Yahoo News is the commenters there that push back against the nonsense. Not as great as the commenters here, of course. But they do my heart good.

Posted by: LizLem at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (hvf9s)

136
The Parting Glass??

Who the fuck mentioned The Parting Glass?

It's Faux Irish lately.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 04:08 PM (S/hVx)

137 Why the fuck do they want to turn this place into a commie town shithole?

Because all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal.

Hope these commie bastards realize that Animal Farm is not an instruction manual.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 22, 2017 04:08 PM (jxbfJ)

138 They always stood out like a sore thumb at The Parting Glass.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 03:57 PM (OD2ni)

I don't remember that place but we are talking about almost 50 years ago.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party"


Great Irish pub on Lake Ave in downtown Saratoga. Pretty sure it is still there.
=============

OH! you mean the "Farting Gas".

Posted by: idiot college guys since like forever at August 22, 2017 04:08 PM (D7NV+)

139 She throws out the word "communist" the way the media throws out the word "Russian collusion", in order to dupe conservatives into walking into the camps voluntarily.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 22, 2017 04:08 PM (/qEW2)

140 Just wait till these kids hit the workforce in larger numbers. THAT will be momentum.

Gonna retire early.

Posted by: Max Power at August 22, 2017 04:08 PM (q177U)

141 No Dave, forget the wall and the bucket, you have more work to do.

Posted by: It's Not Over Yet at August 22, 2017 04:09 PM (xHfph)

142 My wife threatened to sue me because I married her based on the way she looked as a beautiful woman.

I asked her what damages she was going to claim?

She opened her bathrobe and exclaimed "FIVE CHILDREN LATER!"

I immediately agreed to settle and pay the damages.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 22, 2017 04:09 PM (4AVeu)

143 Ha! I just saw a good comment from OregonMuse. Upon refresh it was gone!
I always suspected he was MUMR.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 22, 2017 03:58 PM (EgwCt)


I deleted it because the formatting was screwy, but I reposted a corrected version.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:09 PM (6kP6G)

144 "As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"

-
SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO?

- Punchy McWifebeater

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 22, 2017 04:09 PM (Nwg0u)

145 My whole life is a dark room

+++

How does a Jewish mother change a light bulb?

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 22, 2017 04:09 PM (vOnXw)

146 Media going ape over Trump's Arizona gathering.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 22, 2017 04:07 PM (IqV8l)

-----

Well.... in their minds...they had him deads to rights over Russia Russia Russia. Then the "definately" had him dead to rights over "Nazis Nazis Nazis".

Now... two days later, he's leading a just armed ressurgence in Afghanistan and is welcomed by cheering throngs shouting his name.


They must be *LIVID*.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 04:10 PM (8XRCm)

147 So - this isn't a photography thread?

Posted by: Weasel at August 22, 2017 04:10 PM (Sfs6o)

148 Ordered Liberty or Chaos. Seems the Left went to Chaos pretty quickly when their world imploded last November. Yeah, they're the adults in the room.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 22, 2017 04:10 PM (YV+SU)

149 GIT IN MUH BELLY!!

Posted by: The Barrel at August 22, 2017 04:10 PM (baYK5)

150 The monument protection protest was maybe orchestrated by the Occupy/Obama guy just to cause chaos, or maybe to tie KKK to Trump. In any case they deserved to be there ... per court order AND per First amendment. That some came dressed for battle expecting an antifa assault looked pretty goofy, with their weird shields, and it was bad optics.

BUT they had they (court ordered) right to protest. Antifa showed up only to shut them up and beat them down. So there was only one anti-US group there, even though the KKK/quasiNazi group was distasteful to the extreme.

Trump could have framed it that way ... but chose to say both groups bad, MFM and their cohorts said ONLY KKK bad, antifa (alt-left) is GOOD.

Maybe Trump was in-artful, maybe he was Machiavellian ... but he made the MFM and Democrats stand up for commie flag carrying (even if not that day) rioters that actually despise America.

Sides are drawn ... Trump was against both.
MFM/Dems are pro-communist rioters.

Q.E.D.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 22, 2017 04:10 PM (veVl1)

151 the Oregon Trail leads to the barrel.

where there is dysentery.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 22, 2017 04:10 PM (evq2A)

152 it's good to be the cob!

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 22, 2017 04:11 PM (evq2A)

153 I sew like the wind.

Posted by: Betsy Ross at August 22, 2017 04:11 PM (IqV8l)

154 Its getting hard to live as an American these days. Every night I have to check under my bed for Russians, NAZIs, Klansmen and Lena Dunham. Can someone make the crazy stop?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 22, 2017 04:11 PM (YV+SU)

155 An alternate POV:

They are losing.

Bigly.

So they are throwing all the shit at the wall, hoping something, ANYTHING will stick:

-Antifa
-BLM
-violence
-Russia, Russia, Russia
-Trump is a Nazi
-Trump is insane
-Trump has dementia
-Trump impeach NOW
-eliminate conservatives on TV
-eliminate conservatives online
-tell conservatives not to shop at your business

I'm sure there's more, those are just the things I could think of off the top of my head.


Posted by: shibumi at August 22, 2017 04:12 PM (aT+Bx)

156 re 146: says to one of her kids, "It's ok, I'll just sit here and try to sew in the dark till I go blind."

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 22, 2017 04:12 PM (ILitO)

157 Uphold free speech and arrest/expel violent counter protesters. Simple. Why allow the heckler's veto?

And I can promise you one thing - expelling violent, intolerant students will help your campus. Make it a happy, healthier place. Because the same intolerant lunatics that scream and break shit when they hear a speaker say something they don't like, has your faculty cowering behind their desks right now. They are the people making your life utterly not worth living. They are ruining college for everyone.

And, trust me on this, it will help the expelled students. they will realize that crying and violence and threats have no place in civilized society.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at August 22, 2017 04:12 PM (UgF8H)

158 How does a Jewish mother change a light bulb?

____________________________________

She doesn't, but that's okay. I'll just sit here in the dark, knowing that my son never visits, never calls and never changes a light bulb for his mother.

Posted by: Mrs. Silverberg at August 22, 2017 04:12 PM (4AVeu)

159 Maybe Trump was in-artful, maybe he was Machiavellian ... but he made the MFM and Democrats stand up for commie flag carrying (even if not that day) rioters that actually despise America.

Sides are drawn ... Trump was against both.
MFM/Dems are pro-communist rioters.

Q.E.D
++++++++++++

Yes. Well noted.

its kind of awesome. He's either wicked Smahrt or the Lord is on his side.

I'm willing to consider "and".

Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 04:13 PM (Rfcua)

160 a child was playing with a Fundamental Right the size of a tangerine ..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 22, 2017 04:13 PM (QQ+il)

161 Our Country is Screwed: "Hope these commie bastards realize that Animal Farm is not an instruction manual."

But of course it is. It's just the guide following Volume I, 1984.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 22, 2017 04:13 PM (H8S+R)

162 One day I hope I can make the jump up from just deplorable to neo-nazi maybe even to full nazi if I play my cards right.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 22, 2017 04:13 PM (0OmEj)

163 Nice companion piece to the left's incitement to riot from last week.

Here, free speech is a weapon; it's violence. The evil independent thinkers use it "to attack" and "to destroy."

Pretty transparent justification for violence against any and all dissenters, which is why their ideological opponents MUST all be nazis or nazi sympathizers.


Sickening.

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 22, 2017 04:13 PM (tbOMB)

164 @146

They are livid because Trump does not give a shit and unlike every other GOP jerkwad they cannot beat him into submission.

To borrow a phrase, he persists.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 22, 2017 04:13 PM (2JcMg)

165 Weasel, I am disappointed too

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 04:14 PM (pPKG5)

166 152 it's good to be the cob!

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 22, 2017 04:11 PM (evq2A)


Oh yeah, don't I know it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:15 PM (6kP6G)

167 And this from what is probably a tenured professor.

McCarthy was a piker. The number of communists infesting this country was beyond his wildest dreams.
I also blame Bill Buckley because of his war against the Birchers. A lot of those arguments read the same as NeverTrumper garbage does today.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at August 22, 2017 04:15 PM (Umfx1)

168 "Ace stared at the sun yesterday,didn't he?"

ace will be suffering tonight

Posted by: Catherine Wheel at August 22, 2017 04:15 PM (evq2A)

169 I'm starting to think this Alt-Left vs Alt-Left is a collusion

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 04:16 PM (pPKG5)

170 Your free speech is violence.

My violence is free speech.

Posted by: The Left at August 22, 2017 04:16 PM (eSx+E)

171 The Parting Glass Irish Pub Restaurant was
established in 1981 and it's one of the oldest continuously run pub/
restaurants in Saratoga Springs. USA Today voted the pub as one of the
top ten Irish pubs in the United States



OK it was not there when I was there. I had been gone 10 years when it opened.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 04:16 PM (mpXpK)

172 160 a child was playing with a Fundamental Right the size of a tangerine ..
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 22, 2017 04:13 PM (QQ+il)

We burned the First Amendment down.

Posted by: Skidmore College Professor at August 22, 2017 04:16 PM (0mRoj)

173 re 155: I noticed this morning that the leader of the Resistance, half-pint division, Robert Reich has another screed on why we need to remove Trump from office.

"
Republican as well as Democratic members of the House and Senate must commit themselves to removing this president.

Those of you represented by Democrats in the House or Senate must get their commitment to remove him, as soon as possible.

Those of you represented by Republicans in the House or Senate must let them know that you will campaign vigorously against them in 2018 unless they commit to removing Trump as well.

It is time to end this disgrace.
"

http://tinyurl.com/y8z32enb (goes to yahoo news)

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 22, 2017 04:16 PM (ILitO)

174 168 "Ace stared at the sun yesterday,didn't he?"

ace will be suffering tonight
Posted by: Catherine Wheel at August 22, 2017 04:15 PM (evq2A)




But he's a volume freak.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2017 04:16 PM (ujg0T)

175

For the Men:

The Way It Should Be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMadwc0LO4o

See if you can identify one of the blondes in Al Bundy's dream!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 22, 2017 04:17 PM (xiDlM)

176 I also blame Bill Buckley because of his war against the Birchers. A lot of those arguments read the same as NeverTrumper garbage does today.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at August 22, 2017 04:15 PM (Umfx1)


To be fair, the Birchers were saying goofy crap like "Dwight Eisenhower is a self-conscious communist agent". Buckley simply lost patience with them.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:17 PM (6kP6G)

177 "I also blame Bill Buckley because of his war against the Birchers."


A lot of Red Sox fans have never forgiven him for the 1986 WS.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 22, 2017 04:18 PM (OD2ni)

178 I've decided in left speak "multicultural" means that you can be any shade of color, or come from any country as long as you think America stinks, are secular and espouse completely leftist values-We all think exactly alike and are different colors-Yay-Multiculturalism!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2017 04:18 PM (iVOAv)

179 It appears the West did not win the cold war. Yes, we destroyed the Soviets...but they destroyed our political system as well..just a little later.

If you took the average Democrat in 1987 and showed them what the Democrats stand for now, they wouldn't believe you and would likely claim no one could be so insane.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2017 04:18 PM (eSx+E)

180 Where is the guy who says it begins? Or the Trump-deport guy.

Posted by: Max Power at August 22, 2017 04:18 PM (q177U)

181 Medieval universities had more freedom of thought than current ones. They LIVED by debate --- hair-splitting logical debate. NO question was forbidden --- and they loved a really good "Devil's Advocate" who could argue the unorthodox viewpoint.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (0jtPF)

182

Bucky fuckin Dent!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xiDlM)

183 To be fair, the Birchers were saying goofy crap like "Dwight Eisenhower is a self-conscious communist agent". Buckley simply lost patience with them.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:17 PM (6kP6G)




Exactly. Ike may have made the wrong calls on Dien Bien Phu and Suez, but that did not make him a fellow traveler.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (ujg0T)

184 Those of you represented by Republicans in the House or Senate must let them know that you will campaign vigorously against them in 2018 unless they commit to removing Trump as well.

It is time to end this disgrace
=====================
Anyone recall when they went APE shirt over Rush Limbaugh saying he hoped Obama failed.

Now they are outright calling for nullifying an election. And they aren't too concerned with the legalities either. I'd laugh out loud but its not funny.

Posted by: simplemind at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (r7HVP)

185 I'm still laughing that the Giants lost to the Browns last night. What's the word on O'Dell today? Can he walk?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (YV+SU)

186 >>I deleted it because the formatting was screwy, but I reposted a corrected version.

Must be nice to be able to edit your comments.

#NoCOBPrivilege

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (/tuJf)

187 Well.... in their minds...they had him deads to
rights over Russia Russia Russia. Then the "definately" had him dead to
rights over "Nazis Nazis Nazis".



Posted by: fixerupper at August 22, 2017 04:10 PM (8XRCm)


It is hilarious that Trump is supposed to simultaneously be insane, a secret nazi, and a commie stooge.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 22, 2017 04:20 PM (tbOMB)

188 re 178: we must accept and appreciate all cultures, until you decide you like something (like tacos) and then you're guilty of cultural appropriation.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at August 22, 2017 04:20 PM (ILitO)

189 178 I've decided in left speak "multicultural" means that you can be any shade of color, or come from any country as long as you think America stinks, are secular and espouse completely leftist values-We all think exactly alike and are different colors-Yay-Multiculturalism!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2017 04:18 PM (iVOAv)




That really IS it!

"multicultural" = multicommunist
"politically correct" = politically communist

179 It appears the West did not win the cold war. Yes, we destroyed the Soviets...but they destroyed our political system as well..just a little later.


Yep.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 22, 2017 04:21 PM (ujg0T)

190 >>>a child was playing with a Fundamental Right the size of a tangerine

I got that reference!

Posted by: Steve Rogers at August 22, 2017 04:21 PM (q177U)

191 Robert Reich is a malignant little garden gnome given to mendacious rants.

And that is one of his good points.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2017 04:21 PM (S/hVx)

192 Bucky fuckin Dent!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xiDlM)

True story. That is actually his real name.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at August 22, 2017 04:21 PM (T71PA)

193 Nice to have the other side explain its dishonesty and complete lack of morality. "The only reason we opposed communists is because republicans would gain the majority fighting them alone." The left's lack of self awareness never ceases to amaze.

Posted by: IanDeal at August 22, 2017 04:21 PM (qcIL3)

194 Must be nice to be able to edit your comments.

#NoCOBPrivilege

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (/tuJf)


Then... then... he made a barrel worthy un-closed tag comment and went back and surreptitiously closed the tags.

I am preparing articles of impeach-a-ment.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 22, 2017 04:22 PM (EgwCt)

195 "As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"
=======

HAHAHA! "Grow bolder?" Really? Where/what is the evidence for this? Usually there has to be three or more events involved to make a claim like this. I don't see this type of activity from them.

The others on the other hand....

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 22, 2017 04:22 PM (vg8iE)

196 There's no communist state on this planet that is joyous, fun or accommodating.

Why the fuck do they want to turn this place into a commie town shithole?

Posted by: Sponge at August 22, 2017 04:00 PM (xttKs)



Because then they'll have complete control and power and that's all that matters to them. You think the Castro boys gave a shit that everyone was miserable but them and their cronies?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 22, 2017 04:23 PM (493sH)

197 in 1987 limiting hurr durr libruls bigguverment was an actual platform, not comfort food for elderly voters.

hard to imagine, now.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 22, 2017 04:23 PM (evq2A)

198 Nice to have the other side explain its dishonesty and complete lack of morality. "The only reason we opposed communists is because republicans would gain the majority fighting them alone." The left's lack of self awareness never ceases to amaze.
=======

The whole damn piece is a huge mask dropped.

The executive summary would read something like this:

"Yes, we are better than you fuckers out there."

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 22, 2017 04:23 PM (vg8iE)

199 Then... then... he made a barrel worthy un-closed tag comment and went back and surreptitiously closed the tags.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 22, 2017 04:22 PM (EgwCt)


Ssssh! Quiet, you!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 22, 2017 04:24 PM (6kP6G)

200 Huma still on Hillary's payroll
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/267662/why-wont-hillary-quit-huma-daniel-greenfield

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 04:24 PM (pPKG5)

201 The problem with 'content producers' like this O'Spades fella is that they don't even call in sick when they decide to go get their butthole fingered in a massage. Unreliable.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 22, 2017 04:24 PM (lh08N)

202 What time does the riot start in Phoenix?
I want to get good seats.

Posted by: Innocent Bystander at August 22, 2017 04:24 PM (m9X4Y)

203 180 Where is the guy who says it begins? Or the Trump-deport guy.
==

Or the guy who says "Yo!"

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (10LGw)

204 I just called up a menu from that place. You would have to trade in a pair of diamond earrings for a sandwich and beer there.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (mpXpK)

205 Huma still on Hillary's payroll
======

You'd wanna get paid BANK if you had to go down on that, too. So, shut the fuck up about it.

Posted by: Huma at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (vg8iE)

206 If Robert Reich's father and paternal grandfather were both named was named Robert, does that make him the Third Reich?

Posted by: Auntie Fa at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (4AVeu)

207 Trump is supposed to simultaneously be insane, a secret nazi, and a commie stooge.

-
A man for all seasons.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (Nwg0u)

208 Oy!

Posted by: Oy! at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (QQ+il)

209 Yo was really a dyslexic Jew.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (lh08N)

210 >>Then... then... he made a barrel worthy un-closed tag comment and went back and surreptitiously closed the tags.

>>I am preparing articles of impeach-a-ment.

No Justice, No Peace!

Posted by: JackStraw at August 22, 2017 04:26 PM (/tuJf)

211 182

Bucky fuckin Dent!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xiDlM)



Why would a Marvel Hero screw a DC Villain?

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:26 PM (z/Ubi)

212 Writing hard it is me for.

Posted by: Auntie Fa at August 22, 2017 04:27 PM (4AVeu)

213 171 The Parting Glass Irish Pub Restaurant was
established in 1981 and it's one of the oldest continuously run pub/
restaurants in Saratoga Springs. USA Today voted the pub as one of the
top ten Irish pubs in the United States


OK it was not there when I was there. I had been gone 10 years when it opened.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 04:16 PM (mpXpK)


Vic -
Meet you there? I grew up 20 miles away and never went there myself. I'll buy first couple of rounds. Least I can do for all the wonderful morning content you post.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 22, 2017 04:27 PM (jxbfJ)

214 Then... then... he made a barrel worthy un-closed tag comment and went back and surreptitiously closed the tags.

-
#WhitePrivilege

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 22, 2017 04:27 PM (Nwg0u)

215 211 182

Bucky fuckin Dent!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xiDlM)


Why would a Marvel Hero screw a DC Villain?
Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:26 PM (z/Ubi)

You don't read much fan-fic, do you?

Posted by: josephistan at August 22, 2017 04:27 PM (7HtZB)

216 Posted by: Oy!

Get out of my head!
I was thinking that but couldn't remember how to spell it and google wasn't helping.

Posted by: Innocent Bystander at August 22, 2017 04:27 PM (m9X4Y)

217 Robert Reich's ass is closer to the sidewalk than mine!

Posted by: Peter Dinklage at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (bc2Lc)

218 Is there any planned protests in Arizona tonight?

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (pPKG5)

219 205 Huma still on Hillary's payroll
======

You'd wanna get paid BANK if you had to go down on that, too. So, shut the fuck up about it.
Posted by: Huma at August 22, 2017 04:25 PM (vg8iE)

Talk about a job that leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (jxbfJ)

220 Dude!

Posted by: Dude Guy at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (q177U)

221 217 Robert Reich's ass is closer to the sidewalk than mine!
Posted by: Peter Dinklage at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (bc2Lc)

The Thousand Millimeter Reich

Posted by: josephistan at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (7HtZB)

222 217 Robert Reich's ass is closer to the sidewalk than mine!
Posted by: Peter Dinklage at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (bc2Lc)

Robert "Distended Anus" Reichhhhhhhhhhhh-uh.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 22, 2017 04:29 PM (CMbMd)

223 215 211 182

Bucky fuckin Dent!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 22, 2017 04:19 PM (xiDlM)


Why would a Marvel Hero screw a DC Villain?
Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:26 PM (z/Ubi)

You don't read much fan-fic, do you?
Posted by: josephistan at August 22, 2017 04:27 PM (7HtZB)



When I was younger. And I learned from descriptions very early on to skip over "slash" fiction.

Alternatively I imagine Alexthechick makes a beeline for those titles

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:30 PM (z/Ubi)

224 213 Vic -

Meet you there? I grew up 20 miles away and never went there
myself. I'll buy first couple of rounds. Least I can do for all the
wonderful morning content you post.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 22, 2017 04:27 PM (jxbfJ)

that is about a 13 hr hour drive for me now. Assuming no traffic on I-95.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 04:30 PM (mpXpK)

225 >>>Is there any planned protests in Arizona tonight

I don't see what the big fucking deal about their tea is. It's not all that.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 22, 2017 04:30 PM (lh08N)

226 The five things common to a repub potus according to the left..

1. stupid
2. nazi sympathizer
3. stupid
4. craaazyyy
5. chicken hawk

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 22, 2017 04:30 PM (0OmEj)

227 Is there any planned protests in Arizona tonight?

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (pPKG5)


DRUDGE! Proclaims 'Mass Protest Expected'. But then you click on the link and it sounds pretty benign.

I suspect my time with Matt Drudge is drawing to a close.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (EgwCt)

228 Either uphold free speech on campus and risk violent counterprotests, or ban conservative provocateurs and confirm the "freedom of speech" crisis on campuses.

Let's say you're trapped in the basement of a psychopath, his prisoner. If you sit in the corner quietly, there will be no violence. If you try to leave or shout for help when you see a passerby, in a sense you will be the cause of that violence. But it would be dishonest to say that you are in the wrong because you provoked violence. I think this is analogous to the liberal dishonesty in blaming conservatives for violence in the college campus cases in articles like this.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (/qEW2)

229 >>> Its getting hard to live as an American these days. Every night I have to check under my bed for Russians, NAZIs, Klansmen and Lena Dunham. Can someone make the crazy stop?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 22, 2017 04:11 PM (YV+SU)

I like the theory that, in a world of chaos where Trump is their president and murky villains like islamic terrorists live in our midst, the left in its current mental fragility is retreating back to tried and true concrete villains. Nazis are an easy, familiar, universal evil. It is more comforting to retreat to a known evil than to try and process new, unknown villains.

The problem is the left can no longer differentiate friend from foe and now sees Nazis everywhere. It's an interesting, if frightening, cultural rohrsarch test.

Posted by: LizLem at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (hvf9s)

230 226 The five things common to a repub potus according to the left..

1. stupid
2. nazi sympathizer
3. stupid
4. craaazyyy
5. chicken hawk

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 22, 2017 04:30 PM (0OmEj)



Evil Mastermind.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (z/Ubi)

231 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (mpXpK)

232 n00d

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (z/Ubi)

233 The National Laughingstock, like a dog returning to its vomit.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me @ Intersectionality of Deplorable & Irredeemable at August 22, 2017 04:32 PM (Ftuf+)

234 218 Is there any planned protests in Arizona tonight?
___________________________________

Don't know, but we are playing the Arizona Diamondbacks tonight and we plan to spend 9 innings in Flushing, NY, shitting our pants and running around while we do it.

Which is kinda like Antifa.

Too bad we can't wear masks.

Posted by: The NY Mets at August 22, 2017 04:32 PM (4AVeu)

235 The town of Urbana, IL is struggling with some of its residents, who want to break away from the rest of the town. Urbana has a relatively mild crime rate, but most of it is concentrated on the western side of tow, so the folks on the east side have drawn up the papers to be sent to the State for their own incorporation.

However, the rest of Urbana is not too fond of the idea. For tax considerations, among other things. And they greatly outnumber in population the folks who are trying to incorporate the east side of town.

To be fair though, they are going to put it to a vote. It's likely the vote will pass, but at least it will be democratically decided:

Do the people believe in the East Urbana or not.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2017 04:32 PM (TOk1P)

236 These are not people you can have an open, honest, reasoned exchange of ideas with. I'll leave the logical conclusion of that to your deduction.

Posted by: deplorable shillelagh at August 22, 2017 04:33 PM (FIcZA)

237 222
217 Robert Reich's ass is closer to the sidewalk than mine!

Posted by: Peter Dinklage at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (bc2Lc)



Robert "Distended Anus" Reichhhhhhhhhhhh-uh.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 22, 2017 04:29 PM (CMbMd)

Now I have this mental image of RR dragging his dog ass around on the keyboard and submitting in for publication.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 22, 2017 04:33 PM (tbOMB)

238 >>>Posted by: Peter Dinklage at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (bc2Lc)

We're gonna need a bigger boat.

Posted by: Roy Scheider, looking at Peter Dinklage's motorboat at August 22, 2017 04:33 PM (/qEW2)

239 222 217 Robert Reich's ass is closer to the sidewalk than mine!
Posted by: Peter Dinklage at August 22, 2017 04:28 PM (bc2Lc)

_____________________________________

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

Posted by: The Sidewalk at August 22, 2017 04:34 PM (4AVeu)

240 >>>Is there any planned protests in Arizona tonight
I don't see what the big fucking deal about their tea is. It's not all that.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 22, 2017 04:30 PM (lh08N)

Neither are the jeans. Much ado about nothing!

Posted by: LizLem at August 22, 2017 04:34 PM (hvf9s)

241 "Read the whole thing.."

Thanks.
No.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at August 22, 2017 04:35 PM (jWe5r)

242 195 "As neo-Nazis grow bolder, the 'antifa' has emerged to fight them"
=======

HAHAHA! "Grow bolder?" Really? Where/what is the evidence for this? Usually there has to be three or more events involved to make a claim like this. I don't see this type of activity from them.

The others on the other hand....
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 22, 2017 04:22 PM (vg8iE)

Antifa are the same 'anarchists' that have been around to protest and vandalize during G8 meetings, Occupy Wall Street and anti war protests.

They are not counter protesters.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 22, 2017 04:35 PM (glJL/)

243 nood
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (mpXpK)

232 n00d
Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2017 04:31 PM (z/Ubi)


Aww crep. Well, with the typos, I'm not too fond of my post anyway.

Think I'll wait another week or so, break it out again.

East Urbana is real!!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 22, 2017 04:35 PM (TOk1P)

244 Want to feel better then? Read the comments section on the WaPo article.

The writer and her screed are roundly panned, in very intelligent and thoughtful responses.

There are many more rational people in this country than the enemy wants you to believe.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at August 22, 2017 04:39 PM (INRVS)

245 "conservative provocateurs"

There, I nutshelled it for you. To her, any opinion that is not held by her is provocative. If you don't march in step, you are an agitator, a dissenter, and you provoke trouble.

She'll never stop to think about the argument. She'll only stop to apply judgement to the arguer, and use her own opinions as the litmus test. These people are pure narcissists.

Posted by: Orson at August 22, 2017 04:40 PM (FMtEr)

246 Above-the-fray presidential tone and content is fine - well, it was fine, in a different country - but Trump really should start talking plainly. In all our past, a president could mostly stay above-the-fray because he had many surrogates and allies, political and institutional, getting into the weeds, and if needed slapping down lies and dishonesty by critics.

News flash: Trump has none of this. Completely on his own - can't think of an historical analog. His own cabinet is nearly mute. It's sort of like the Dubya years, except the slander and disinformation has been turned up X 10 (which is saying something). Silence, and hope, are not a strategy - and "presidential" unity-mongering, a la last night's address, is completely inadequate. It's almost pathetic.

So tonight he should specifically engage with the lies and slanders that have failed to convince most of the country, but nonetheless are the framework everyone works within. The ridiculous and despicable comments of the idiot PHX mayor provide the perfect launching point. If he wanted to the country (and himself) even more good, he good directly take on the insane slanderous nonsense from racist congressmen.

Silence in the face of mass slander and disinformation, oddly, is a strategy with a low % chance of success.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 22, 2017 04:41 PM (mBYZv)

247 Ladies and gentlemen, fresh from Twitter, I give you 2017:

http://tinyurl.com/yb4xa3lu

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 22, 2017 04:43 PM (AM1GF)

248 Hey, General Mattis. Stop by my office.

Tillerson and I are using our eclipse glasses to stare into a 100-watt bulb. The colors are really cool. I'm playing Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" on my I-phone while we do it.

By the way, great job cribbing that Afghanistan war plan from the Bush library. I don't think the boss even noticed.

I think I'm going to crib the Kennedy plan on civil rights. He's so busy tweeting, the boss won't even notice.

Tee-hee!

By the way, how do you like that new communications director. Is she hawt or what?

Anyway, gotta go. Ballbuster Kelly is coming down the hall!

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at August 22, 2017 04:43 PM (4AVeu)

249 Margarita, "free speech" gets sneer quotes because it is a dog whistle.
Did you see the first iteration of the DC-area NBC4 article on the Boston protest?
The headline was "Thousands protest "free speech"', at first.
The commentary made much fun of the no-doubt unintended truth of the matter, and also asked why the quotes?
The article was reposted with a new headline.
They can't come right out and say "Nazi" if they know they are not (just as they had to correct for Nazis in the linked article, after calling Skokie KKK), because liability.
So nudge nudge wink wink "free speech" rules.

Posted by: barbarausa at August 22, 2017 04:45 PM (Elk67)

250 zzzzZZZZzzzz

Wut wut wut?
Is it time to clock out now?

Posted by: J. Sessions at August 22, 2017 04:53 PM (mcI77)

251 They cannot win on merits. EVER. Thus the now permanent and ugly appeals solely to emotion.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 22, 2017 05:28 PM (B+qrE)

252 DoublePlus Ungood..

All of you will be made to believe

Posted by: The guy with the hair at August 22, 2017 05:59 PM (bzDAK)

253 64 Okay, is this thread going to be stable?
Posted by: irongrampa

When we stop horsing aroud??
Posted by: fixerupper

Quit trying to stirrup trouble.
Posted by: Insomniac

Looks like we've been saddled with one of THOSE threads. Wonder what spurred this one on.

Neigh, I say! Neigh!

Posted by: rickb223
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 22, 2017 03:56 PM (AM1GF)

And that's Awl Folks.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at August 22, 2017 06:27 PM (wJlYw)

254 I refuse to read anything published by the WaPo. It is all propaganda. From your excerpts, I am in awe as to how Professor Jennifer Delton could achieve a Ph.D and professorship, yet remain a complete imbecile.

Posted by: Locke Common at August 22, 2017 06:28 PM (I2kp0)

255 This impossible dilemma is no accident. It has been part of a strategy, deployed first by conservatives and perfected by the alt-right.

'No-platforming', i.e., disrupting events with speakers the left disapproves of, has been a tactic of the left for a very, very long time. All Bannon and Milo have done is refuse to be intimidated into cancelling themselves, which forced university administrators to do it.

Because standing up to the antifa requires a spine, and university administrators have none.

Posted by: rosignol at August 22, 2017 06:31 PM (sjCQ+)

256 Found va IP link.
At first I read Chair of Intersectionality...

posted your Fisking at WAPO.
Stand by for wailing SJWs, inbound.

Posted by: foodog at August 22, 2017 06:32 PM (8Q8OW)

257 I am in awe as to how Professor Jennifer Delton could achieve a Ph.D and professorship, yet remain a complete imbecile.

In some "disciplines", it's an absolute job requirement.

Posted by: pep at August 22, 2017 06:33 PM (LAe3v)

258 Hit a paywall and I won't give them anything.

Posted by: Korblimee at August 23, 2017 04:50 AM (jSGab)

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