Sunday Morning Book Thread 08-20-2017

National Library, Prague, Czech Republic

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants which are part of a suit that should only be worn as a joke.

Some Books I Found Looking For Other Books

No Campus for White Men: The Transformation of Higher Education into Hateful Indoctrination by Scott Greer. With a title like that, I suppose a descriptive blurb is totally unnecessary, but here it is, anyway:

Across the country, ugly campus protests over speakers with dissenting viewpoints, as well as a preoccupation with "micro-aggressions," "trigger warnings," "safe spaces" and brand-new "gender identities," make it obvious that something has gone terribly wrong with higher education. For years, colleges have pursued policies favoring students based not on their merit, but on their race, gender, and sexual orientation. The disturbingly negative effects of this culture are now impossible to deny.

After reading the blurb, I find myself oddly in sympathy with the one-star reviewer who wrote, in effect, "this book won't tell you anything you don't already know."

And then there's The New Church Ladies: The Extremely Uptight World of "Social Justice" by Jim Goad, who

...uses weaponized words, violent rhetoric, debunked and discredited pseudoscience, and shocking, unforgivable hate speech to explain why the people who are always fighting "hate" are the most hateful jerkoffs on the planet...and why anyone who spends their life "shaming" others for not thinking like a perpetually miserable, microchip-implanted, ideologically clubfooted, progressive brainwashed zombie Social Justice Warrior should be ashamed of themselves.

Mr. Goad is also the author of Life Never Ends Well: A Cavalcade of Murders, Suicides, Accidental Deaths, & Tragic Endings:

In painstaking and often painfully funny detail, this book focuses on cases where people died in ironic, unusual, or outright horrifying ways. Whether they died on roller coasters, in wood chippers, by shark bite, answering a Craigslist ad, while texting, in the course of masturbating, or simply because they laughed too hard, this book ties them all together in one big bloody red ribbon. You’ll read about severed penises, concert tragedies, kids who killed their parents, moms who killed their kids, women who murdered their husbands, couples who killed for fun, and felonious Santa Clauses. As this book illustrates in lurid detail, death is never fun—but it doesn’t have to be boring.

For when you're in a ghoulish mood.

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

OMNIPARITY is universal equality.

Usage:

In their commune in the forest
The progressives passed a law
To enforce their omniparity.
By hostaet, axe, and saw.

This Is Not A Parody. I Think.

@scrowder
In case anyone accuses you of exaggerating. pic.twitter.com/DTePZlW8E5
— Chris Bostick (@TacticalJHP) August 8, 2017

Maps

Do you like maps? I like maps. I've been known to sit down and look through an atlas, not because I wanted specific geographic information, but just because I wanted to look at different states or countries. So here are some map books that look interesting:

First, a standard atlas: Oxford Atlas of the World, a bit spendy at $65, but that's about half the price of the National Geographic Atlas.

Historical maps are always fun. Mapping the World: The Story of Cartography:

From the crude maps of ancient Babylon to the satellite-fueled precision of Google Maps, cartography has been both a record of dreams and of discoveries. Maps have played midwife to empires, helped win wars, and encouraged humanity to venture beyond boundaries of space and time. Containing numerous maps from the archives of the Royal Geographical Society, Mapping the World tells the story of the philosophers, explorers, artists, and scientists who brought together their skills to produce some of the most intriguing artifacts ever created.

Strange Maps: An Atlas of Cartographic Curiosities:

Spanning many centuries, all continents, and the realms of outer space and the imagination, this collection of 138 unique graphics combines beautiful full-color illustrations with quirky statistics and smart social commentary. The result is a distinctive illustrated guide to the world. Categories of cartographic curiosities include: Literary Creations, featuring a map of Thomas More's Utopia and the world of George Orwell's 1984

Atlas of Prejudice: The Complete Stereotype Map Collection has maps like this in it:

These are maps of how the world looks to various groups. Many are quite humorous.

Repeating History

Now that we're apparently trying to either forget Civil War history or turn it into something it really wasn't, it's very timely that CBD pointed me to this alt-history collection, Dixie Victorious: An Alternate History of the Civil War.

Written by military historian Peter G. Tsouras, Dixie Victorious examines a number of convincing scenarios, real battles, actions, and characters, and reveals how choices or minor incidents could have set in motion an entirely new train of events. This fascinating “what if” book will have you pondering how easily history could have been swayed differently.

And all this for $1.99. Take that, crybullies!

Personally, I've always wondered why the British didn't intervene in the CV on the side of the South. Seems to me they could've negotiated a sweet, sweet deal on cotton exports that would've kept their textile mills humming for a long time.

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An anonymous lurker reminded me of the Sad Puppies flap where the usual presenter of the Hugo Awards, sci-fi author Connie Willis, refused to present the awards because of the presence of the Sad Puppies slate.

This is funny because Connie Willis' first novel is a sympathetic Treatment of Robert E. Lee. It's entitled Lincoln's Dreams and my lurking peep recommends it highly. It's about a research assistant for a Civil War novelist and a girl who meets who keeps dreaming Robert E. Lee's dreams. The novel is virtually a love letter to Robert E. Lee -- not to the Confederacy or slavery, to a kind, gentle, noble Robert E. Lee, the Marble Man of the South. Which Kindle edition you can buy for $4.99.

But according to the new rules, in writing a novel sympathetic to Gen. Lee, Connie Willis has committed WrongThink. Connie Willis and her novel must be purged from polite society and blacklisted, her reputation ruined, her career destroyed, and death threats issued against her and her family and friends. That's how the new crybully/antifa rules work, right?

We wouldn't know any of this had it not been for the left-wing crybullies' recent meltdown over Confederate statues and particularly Robert E. Lee. Thank you, left-wing crybullies!

My peep says:

I've met Connie on multiple occasions at conventions. She's a nice, sweet genius lady who made her initial authorial chops fighting against the initial stages of Political Correctness in her fiction ("Blued Moon," "In the Late Cretaceous," "At the Rialto" etc.). But the Left has made the rules (and Connie explicitly chose to side with it to enforce their rules).

And all of her virtue-signaling against the Sad Puppies will not be good enough to save her when the knives come out.

Moron Recommendation

Skandia Recluse sent me a review of Way Station by Clifford Simak that contains many spoilers.

The story starts out with an emotional impact that begins with a country boy going off to war, to do his duty where he faces and survives the horror of war, where he must be courageous during terrible times. He survives and returns home to a lifetime of hard labor on the family farm. This might not mean much to a city person, but it hit close to home for me. It is easy to see why it won the Hugo Award in 1963...the boy labors on alone until a mysterious stranger makes the young man an offer he can't refuse.

The Amazon blurb says:

An ageless hermit runs a secret way station for alien visitors in the Wisconsin woods in this Hugo Award-winning science fiction classic.

Perhaps that's too much of a spoiler right there. But it should be enough to whet your appetite.

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What I'm Reading

I've just finished the first book in Alec Lloyd's 'Man of Destiny' science fiction series mentioned here a couple of weeks back and have started the second. If I were to tell you here is a book that consists mainly of people talking, you'd probably give it a pass, but I'm actually finding it quite entertaining. The plot involves political infighting to revitalize and rule a decaying galactic commonwealth of 4-5,000 planets. Think 'Star Wars' done right, as the author described it to me in e-mail. The action scenes are few and far between, at least from what I've read so far, but I don't really miss them. It's also fun to spot the Star Wars tributes, like when somebody says "I've got a bad feeling about this" or characters that mirror the actual Star Wars characters. For example, there's a starship pilot who I think is kind of supposed to remind you of Han Solo (but not really), and the daughter of a galactic politician who I think is kind of supposed to remind you of Princess Leia (but not really), and a robot pair who I think is kind of supposed to remind you of C3PO/R2D2 (but not really). They're all different enough so that they're not just rip-offs, and of course, the majority of the characters are completely original.

A pretty good steal at $2.99 each on Kindle.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:02 AM

Comments

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1 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 09:02 AM (pPKG5)

2 Rebel Yell a bio of stonewall Jackson is $2.99 on kindle today. Get a copy before they burn them all. Didn't they snatch back kindle copies of 1984 a few years back? Maybe they'll get this one too.

Posted by: NCKate at August 20, 2017 09:05 AM (kdWs5)

3 Got "The Neon Lawyer" yesterday as a loaner with Prime.

A lawyer story. Not a whodunit because she dunit.

So far so good. And as a "freebie" on Prime, well worth it.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 20, 2017 09:06 AM (gCNtU)

4 Ah book thread coming in early. Finished the Mitch Rapp series, now working on a re-read of the Elemental Masters series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:06 AM (mpXpK)

5 Wow! Now that's a neat library.

Posted by: JackS at August 20, 2017 09:06 AM (DknNB)

6 After reading the blurb, I find myself oddly in sympathy with the
one-star reviewer who wrote, in effect, "this book won't tell you
anything you don't already know."

What it tells me is that all public funding of colleges, including scholarships, should be terminated.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

7 Not Connie Willis! One of my favorite authors - say it isn't so!

Posted by: Miss Sippi at August 20, 2017 09:08 AM (5fPhA)

8 I'm up to Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II book 12 which starts his takeover of Silesia from Maria Theresa Queen of Hungary. She followed ruling after her father Charles VI attempt at the Pragmatic Sanction having his daughter become Holy Roman Empress.

Also posted this late last week in afternoon but this was a good listen, the BBC radio play of Patrick O'Brian book Desolation Island.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0375250
Its in two parts each around 55 minutes

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 09:09 AM (pPKG5)

9 Mackinley Kantor also wrote an alternative Civil War history, If the South Had Won the Civil War, which was published in the early 1960s, I believe.

Posted by: Wethal (shy lurker) at August 20, 2017 09:10 AM (UuKHs)

10 Personally, I've always wondered why the British didn't intervene in the
CV on the side of the South. Seems to me they could've negotiated a
sweet, sweet deal on cotton exports that would've kept their textile
mills humming for a long time.

My understanding is that they were worried about the North invading Canada if they did and they already had their hands full in other places.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:11 AM (mpXpK)

11 Check out our Alphabet soup selection of books!

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 09:11 AM (pPKG5)

12 2
Rebel Yell a bio of stonewall Jackson is $2.99 on kindle today. Get a
copy before they burn them all. Didn't they snatch back kindle copies of
1984 a few years back? Maybe they'll get this one too.

Posted by: NCKate at August 20, 2017 09:05 AM (kdWs5)

There was a dispute over copyright access there. Kindle thought it was public domain and it wasn't.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

13
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Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:13 AM (qHEw3)

14 This looks too good but would set me back more than I would want:
http://bit.ly/2wtBIqa

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 09:14 AM (pPKG5)

15 National Library, Prague, Czech Republic
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Spectacular. However, it reeks of old dead white guys and their privilege.

Reading The Vicar of Wakefield this week, because I never have.

An interesting thing I have learned is that Goldsmith was dead broke, poverty stricken. At a tavern, he ran into (of all people) Boswell. He was relating his woes to Boswell and mentioned that he had a transcript.

Boswell read it, and promptly offered to take it to a publisher, which he did, and secured a handsome deal for Goldsmith. The rest is history.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 20, 2017 09:15 AM (OdK9v)

16 Good morning my fellow Book Threadists. I so look forward to this weekly foray into the joys of reading. Thanks to OM for all his good work.

As a surprise, the Kindle Daily Deals is offering "Rebel Yell", a biography of Stonewall Jackson. Considering all the Civil War bullshit going on, I didn't expect it. It gets mostly 5 star reviews. Today only for 2.99. I snapped it up before some SJW dweeb at Amazon notices it and withdraws the lower price. Most of what I know about Jackson, which isn't much, comes from Shelby Foote's comments on TV and in his books. But living near Manassas Battlefield, you hear plenty and the man strikes me as brilliant, interesting and contradictory. I'm looking forward to learning more. This is the kind of book that I might get in hardcover (used) if the e-book version is good.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 09:15 AM (V+03K)

17 Actually not to bad, House of Government by Y. Slezkine
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/11056.html

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 09:16 AM (pPKG5)

18 Rebel Yell a bio of stonewall Jackson...
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It's a book and a bourbon!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 20, 2017 09:16 AM (OdK9v)

19 Now reading "Freedom at Midnight" by Larry Collins about India's independence.

A brief summary:

India: "Leave now!"

British: "OK." *leaves*

India: "Wait a minute!"

A little too much Dickie Mountbatten as hero, but a sad story dramatically told.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 09:17 AM (e+mZR)

20 Read 'Vicious Circle', C.J. Box's latest book in his series about Wyoming Game Warden Joe Pickett. Often risking everything in his pursuit of justice, he is helped by his wife and sometimes his daughters, and close friend Nate, a shadowy, secretive former special operations operator.

17 books in his Joe Pickett series and he hasn't yet degenerated to 'My fans will buy anything I write' attitude of many authors.

Posted by: JackS at August 20, 2017 09:17 AM (DknNB)

21 Rebel Yell a bio of stonewall Jackson...
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It's a book and a bourbon!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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and a way of life!

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:18 AM (qHEw3)

22 The best writer of alternate history by far is Harry Turtledove. And if you want a good Civil War take of his try Guns of the South.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:18 AM (mpXpK)

23 That Prague library is beyond gorgeous. It is almost holy. It makes me think of a combination of the Library of Congress and a cathedral.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 09:18 AM (V+03K)

24 Speaking of Cartography, does anyone remember that scene in West Wing? It's brilliant.

You the tube West Wing map, and you will be rolling.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at August 20, 2017 09:18 AM (smD62)

25
I love maps. There was a 'map store' down the street from my factory I used to stop into all the time. I preferred maps of nautical waters up and down the east coast of the USA. A few of my favorites I actually bought and framed and hung on the wall.

It was always a pleasant moment to stop, look at the map, and remember navigating those waters.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 20, 2017 09:19 AM (EgwCt)

26 Just finished The First Law series by Joe Abercrombie along with its stand alones. I absolutely loved them and I'm not a big fan of the sword and sorcery genre.

Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at August 20, 2017 09:19 AM (VJBq9)

27 What is currently the best book on world history?

What is the best book on American history?

Posted by: Kreplach at August 20, 2017 09:19 AM (9A6UB)

28 I have been reading Lincoln and His Generals by T. Harry Williams. Published in 1952, it is a study of President Abraham Lincoln as a war commander during the [1st] American Civil War. It has been a fascinating look at how Lincoln had to juggle personalities (McClellan in particular comes across as a meglomaniac) and how the Union generals interacted with each other. The author's contention is that Lincoln was very active in his role as Commander-in-Chief because all the men filling the role as General-in-Chief before Ulysses S. Grant were not fulfilling their duties adequately. A minor criticism is that the book could have used a few more maps to show where various armies were during the war. An editorial decision that I found a bit annoying was that the dates often did not include the year. I have heard of this book for years but never got around to reading it until now. Very highly recommended -- rating = 4.75/5.

I gave my 8 year-old niece The Isle of the Lost by Melissa de la Cruz. It features the teenaged daughters of Malificent and the Evil Queen finding out being good isn't so bad after all. I flipped through the book, it some fun word play (children getting "baddy" bags instead of "goody" bags at a birthday party) and unless there was stuff buried in there, a cursory read didn't find any age-unsuitable content. My niece is an avid reader and it was really touching in the way her face lit-up when I gave her the book.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:20 AM (5Yee7)

29 my kid is looking at a world map trying to find the china/Korea section right now

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:20 AM (qHEw3)

30 why the British didn't intervene"

What Vic said, plus recall that the British Army by the mid century was in trouble, between Crimea and the Indian Revolution. According to some accounts, there were still Regulars equipped w/Brown Bess Muskets in the 1860s...

And the Peel committee fiasco (much like Church's hearings that devastated the intelligence community in the 1970s) left the British army in a leadership battle...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 20, 2017 09:21 AM (MINbv)

31 Dammit OM!! Mrs. JTB and I love maps and atlases. Now you mention several we don't have and they all look interesting and fun. There goes the book budget.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 09:21 AM (V+03K)

32 Re-reading "Christ is in Our Midst""by a Russian Orthodox monk/priest, Fr. John who lived from 1873 until 1958. It is his letters of spiritual direction. Very simple, very helpful with wonderful bits about the beauty of nature and how he sees God in that with surprising bits of humor too and some sharp views. Not too patient with the Atheist who writes to him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 09:21 AM (iVOAv)

33 My thanks to the Moron who recommended The Hangman's Daughter, by Oliver Potzsch, trans. by Lee Chadeayne. This is an excellent historical mystery set in a small village in Bavaria in 1659. This is not only a great mystery novel, but the reader learns much about village life at this time.

The hangman, Johann Jakob Kuisl and his physician sidekick, Simon Fronwieser, are historical figures. The Kuisl family was a long dynasty of famous hangmen in the area. The author is a descendent of that family. I hope the rest of the series is as good as this one.

Posted by: Zoltan at August 20, 2017 09:22 AM (go62B)

34 That library was built I take it in 1777 which would make it during the reign of Queen Maria Theresa

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 09:22 AM (pPKG5)

35 Maps? I'm a cartomaniac. I have reproductions of two old ones on the staircase, one of my native Pennsylvania and one of Austria-Hungary, from which my father's side of the family emigrated

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 09:22 AM (e+mZR)

36 Rebel Yell a bio of stonewall Jackson...

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It's a book and a bourbon!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

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and a way of life!

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:18 AM (qHEw3)

Damn straight!

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 09:22 AM (FTXAT)

37 The Red Cliffs of Zerhoun, by Matt Bracken. Great storyteller and even better than his Enemies Foreigh and Domestic series.
Post USA and post European cleansing of the moslems. Gets involved in mission to rescue 70 Irish girls from being sold on moslem slave market.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 20, 2017 09:23 AM (Wjfv0)

38 I first read that as "Omniparty".

Which could be an alternate term for "Uniparty".

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2017 09:23 AM (sdi6R)

39

Is the song "Rebel Yell" by Billy Idol now verboten in Nazi USA now?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 09:24 AM (qAKlO)

40 For the history of the world you can't beat Will and Arel Durant's multi tome collection. I have most of them, not light reading.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 09:25 AM (pPKG5)

41 Posted by: Zoltan at August 20, 2017 09:22 AM (go62B)

I don't know if it was my recommendation you saw or not Z, but I noted how much I liked it.

An amazing amount of research must have gone into what has become a series and the translation is really well done.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 20, 2017 09:26 AM (gCNtU)

42 Personally, I've always wondered why the British didn't intervene in the CV on the side of the South. Seems to me they could've negotiated a sweet, sweet deal on cotton exports that would've kept their textile mills humming for a long time.

The Brits came close, but ultimately, the slavery issue became a "bridge too far" for them. They were far from disinterested and I suspect if Lee had defeated Meade at Gettysburg, the Brits would have jumped in.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:27 AM (5Yee7)

43 That's too bad about Connie Willis using protective colors to evade being eaten by the SJWs. Her novel The Bellwether pokes fun at groupthink, HRSpeak, and social trendoids.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 09:29 AM (QGoUX)

44 This weeks reading is mostly a continuation of books started last week. "Travels With Charley" read by Gary Sinise gets better with each chapter. I know he did the audio book for Of Mice and Men but haven't found any others. I hope he does more, and not Steinbeck. I bet his rendition of "The Old Man and the Sea" would be wonderful. Even better would be an audio version of CS Lewis' Space Trilogy. Oh well, I can dream.

Got a few more chapters into Conan Doyle's "Through the Magic Door". I don't always agree with his assessments, which would not bother him. But the approach of a conversation about books, held in comfortable quarters with tobacco and spirits on hand, is a delight. Doyle is not just enthusiastic, he is generous in his evaluations and admits they are his preferences. That leaves the 'door' open to discussion and persuasion. This was a free Kindle book with few typos or format problems. What a great bargain.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 09:29 AM (V+03K)

45 42 The Brits came close, but ultimately, the slavery
issue became a "bridge too far" for them. They were far from
disinterested and I suspect if Lee had defeated Meade at Gettysburg, the
Brits would have jumped in.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:27 AM (5Yee7)

If Lee had won at Gettysburg I suspect that Lincoln would have surrendered. I don't think slavery was an issue at all for their decision.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:30 AM (mpXpK)

46 Finished Ben Coes's latest, Trap the Devil. Highly, highly recommended. Part political thriller, part James Bond, Coes's character "Dewey Andreas" is all that and a bag of chips.

I've also been moseying through The Portable Curmudgeon, by Jon Winokur, which was recommended at this esteemed site. Winokur sure has a hate on for God. The disdain and hostility of the quotes he chose fairly drips from the pages. The info on Dorothy Parker was fascinating, though. Far from being the witty gadfly she's usually portrayed as, she comes off (here, at least) as a foul-mouthed, bitter harridan who struck it lucky once and rode the fame train posthumously.

With all the tension and anxiety going on in the country and world, I've resorted to Max Lucado's Inspirational Reader. That dude can write. His chapter on "Creation," is a delightful portrait for the mind. I'm reading "The Cross" chapter now, and this sentence made me break out the highlighter: Nails didn't hold God to a cross. Love did.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 09:31 AM (joFoi)

47 I'm midway into Augustine: Conversions to Confessions by Robin Lane Fox. It started out a little slow but has gotten quite interesting. In addition to putting some flesh on one of the key theologians of the early church, it has nice vignettes of St. Jerome and St. Ambrose, who were Augustine's contemporaries. Augustine knew both of them. I'll bet beers with three major Roman Catholic saints would have been well worth the price of an afternoon.

Most amazing bit of new trivia so far: In his early years Augustine was a committed Manichean. Ambrose's preaching was a big part of the reason he began to question its doctrine.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 20, 2017 09:32 AM (c8EhQ)

48 Speaking of Patrick O'Brian, finished The Yellow Admiral this week, where not that much sea action happened as Aubrey had a major role in a blockade of Brest, which was both boring and treacherous with the uncharted shoals, under a cocksucker of an Admiral who hated Jack for political reasons but placed Maturin on a pedestal beyond his own surgeon. Most of the book had the specter of Jack being without an assignment when the Napoleanic war finished and Stephen arranged for him to work for some contacts in Chile. But at the very end Napolean escaped from Elba and an old Admiral friend, who had unintentionally snubbed Jack earlier, sent an urgent message that he is to command a major fleet. I am down to the last two books of the series and will be sad to reach the end.

My book group is reading The Buried Book by D. M. Pulley, a surprisingly engaging page turner about a nine year old kid whose slutty mother drops him off at her brother's farm north of Detroit in the early 50s, to keep him away from something sketchy she's involved with. Jasper is trying to figure out WTF is going with the resources you'd expect from a kid of normal intelligence for that age. It's reasonably well written from a let's find out WTF happened genre.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2017 09:32 AM (y7DUB)

49 The Brits came close, but ultimately, the slavery issue became a "bridge too far" for them. They were far from disinterested and I suspect if Lee had defeated Meade at Gettysburg, the Brits would have jumped in.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:27 AM (5Yee7)

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The brits outlawed slavery in 1835

so no they were not going to side with slavers

fyi, saudi arabia outlawed slavery in 1962

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (qHEw3)

50 In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

I'd change that last one to "Axis", but that's because I like to dress up, IYKWIM.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (QGoUX)

51 As kid most of my friends would spend allowance money on comics like Archie and Jugghead. Not me. Sometimes I bought maps. There was a company that sold individual maps of countries and their histories in packets. I would spend hours looking at them planning trips.

Several years ago I bought a huge Rand McNally world atlas at a second hand store. It was put out by Countrywide. They had a bit of a finacial problem some years ago.

Posted by: JackS at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (DknNB)

52 >>>Historical maps are always fun. Mapping the World: The Story of Cartography:

They should have used GPS instead of murdering trees to make their maps.

Posted by: Evergreen history major at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (8x8kp)

53 The Brits came close, but ultimately, the slavery

issue became a "bridge too far" for them. They were far from

disinterested and I suspect if Lee had defeated Meade at Gettysburg, the

Brits would have jumped in.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:27 AM (5Yee7)

If
Lee had won at Gettysburg I suspect that Lincoln would have
surrendered. I don't think slavery was an issue at all for their
decision.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:30 AM (mpXpK)

It is amazing to me that people these day do not realize that a Union win was not inevitable from the start of the war.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 09:34 AM (FTXAT)

54 day==days

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 09:35 AM (FTXAT)

55
50 In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

I'd change that last one to "Axis", but that's because I like to dress up, IYKWIM.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (QGoUX)
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It's probably wrong of me to not have known that already.

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 09:36 AM (Sfs6o)

56 It's probably wrong of me to not have known that already.

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 09:36 AM (Sfs6o)

Antifa will be at your house to issue your SJW beating soon.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 09:38 AM (FTXAT)

57 Is the song "Rebel Yell" by Billy Idol now verboten in Nazi USA now?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 09:24 AM (qAKlO)

Ummmmmmm....Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 09:38 AM (5VlCp)

58 and one of Austria-Hungary, from which my father's side of the family emigrated

Do you speak Austro-Hungarian? I don't know that one.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 20, 2017 09:39 AM (kuiuS)

59 It Pays To Increase Your Word Power�

OMNIPARTY is universal sufferage.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 20, 2017 09:40 AM (kuiuS)

60 Can the margins be fixed or do I have to throw a pee and poop balloon up in here to get my way

Posted by: NCKate at August 20, 2017 09:41 AM (kdWs5)

61 I am a yuuuuuuuge fan of maps. I can spend hours looking at them, and it never occurred to me other people liked them too. It's also fun to wander around on Google Earth.

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 09:41 AM (Sfs6o)

62 Can the margins be fixed or do I have to throw a pee and poop balloon up in here to get my way
Posted by: NCKate at August 20, 2017 09:41 AM (kdWs5)
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too wide, or too narrow??

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:42 AM (qHEw3)

63 OK so, coupla map jokes.

Quoted from a poilu's letter home in WWI: "How is school going? I shouldn't worry too much about geography. It's all about to change."

And, bitter Ambrose Bierce. "War is God's way of teaching geography to the Americans."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 09:43 AM (H5rtT)

64 I covet this 1843 map of "Europe in Barbarian Times" but can't afford it at the moment. If any other moron wants this please enjoy:

https://tinyurl.com/y8yavy3p

What I'm reading: By Gaslight--a very atmospheric and beautifully written novel of Victorian England featuring the son of Allan Pinkerton in pursuit of his late father's unresolved quest for a fabled conman.

What I just finished: Moonglow by Michael Chabon. Loved this book which was so well written and so affectionate to it's characters. Chabon is an idiot SJW but with the exception of Telegraph Avenue, everything he's written is a gift.

Posted by: Grannysaurus Rex at August 20, 2017 09:44 AM (xo/kP)

65 20 years ago I was hired to do a study of the LGBTQQ community in a certain County by a foundation.

When speakng about it, each time, one was obligated to say the entire acronym El Gee Bee Tee Kyu Kyu. Lest one give offense. It made for many awkward meetings.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 20, 2017 09:44 AM (EZebt)

66 In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

I'd change that last one to "Axis", but that's because I like to dress up, IYKWIM.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

I thought "2 spirit" was just a gay American Indian. So shouldn't that already have been covered under 'LGB'?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 09:45 AM (/qEW2)

67 y'all notice that mastercard starts with master?

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:45 AM (qHEw3)

68 Now reading "Freedom at Midnight" by Larry Collins about India's independence.
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I read that one ages ago. Great book. The savagery that occurred during the partition was appalling.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 09:46 AM (QGoUX)

69 If Lee had won at Gettysburg I suspect that Lincoln would have surrendered. I don't think slavery was an issue at all for their decision.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:30 AM (mpXpK)

Gettysburg was certainly a "near-run thing." The Union forces were stretched to the limits in mid-1863 but I don't think Lincoln would have surrendered (unless the Brits jumped in) because Grant captured Vicksburg on July 4, 1863 and the Confederacy wouldn't have time to counter-act that strategic set-back. Losing Vicksburg was a YUUUGE problem for the Confederacy; with Union control of the Mississippi River, the Confederacy was split in two and the war wasn't going well for them in the West.

I still think slavery was an issue for the British, the Royal Navy had been doing anti-slavery cruises for a couple of decades preceding the war. Concerns for Canada aside, the slavery issue gave the Brits a pretext to stay out of the conflict but there was a lot of internal debate on the British side about the merits of intervening.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (5Yee7)

70 For all of us map-loving pedantics, a "water map" is better known as a "chart". Unless you're talking hydrology, of course.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (Wjfv0)

71 37 Thanks Red, I've been waiting for a new book from Bracken; it's available in Kindle for $7.99.

Posted by: sawhorse at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (ARGoY)

72 if Lee had defeated Meade at Gettysburg, the Brits would have jumped in."

With what? By 1860 the British Army was in total disarray. Total opposite of their Navy, but the Brits weren't sailing to Atlanta...
They had their own problems, and the CSA just wasn't on their proverbial radar.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (MINbv)

73 57
Is the song "Rebel Yell" by Billy Idol now verboten in Nazi USA now?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 09:24 AM (qAKlO)

Ummmmmmm....Yes.

No to mention Duane Eddy and the Rebels' "Rebel Rouser" and "Ghost Riders in the Sky."

Posted by: Wethal (shy lurker) at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (UuKHs)

74 I thought "2 spirit" was just a gay American Indian. So shouldn't that already have been covered under 'LGB'?

Splitter!

Posted by: The Judean People's Front at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (c8EhQ)

75 Saudis officially ended slavery in 1962.

On paper.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 20, 2017 09:48 AM (Od+LM)

76 Was listening to a collection of Sayer mysteries and it had a teaser for Murder Must Advertise. One of the characters states that England needs a Mussolini if the working man is to get a fair deal. Seemed very timely.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 09:48 AM (rp9xB)

77 The 2018 Old Farmer's Almanac is due out on the 29th. For some reason, the local Barnes and Noble had it on the shelf yesterday and, happily, I snapped it up. I REALLY look forward to it every year for the fun, information, humor, and weather predictions. This issue's predictions for our area are pretty close to Joe Bastardi's long range forecast, which is the only one I trust.

By the way, Barnes and Noble still has their Classics paperback series on sale for five bucks. I got copies of the "Tao Te Ching" and the works of Thomas Paine, among others. Yeah, I know they are paperbacks and the paper isn't archival but I'm not 20 years old and have to hope the books last seventy years or more.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 09:48 AM (V+03K)

78 50 In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies."
I'd change that last one to "Axis", but that's because I like to dress up, IYKWIM.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (Q

This reminds me of the old PJ O'Rourke quote to the effect that he didn't mind when liberal detractors called him a Nazi because no one ever had a sexual fantasy about being ravished by some guy dressed like a liberal.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 09:48 AM (HYE3N)

79 LGBTQQIP2SAA.

I remember the good old days when it was just straight, bi, gay, lesbian.

Posted by: JackS at August 20, 2017 09:49 AM (DknNB)

80 60 Can the margins be fixed or do I have to throw a pee and poop balloon up in here to get my way
Posted by: NCKate at August 20, 2017 09:41 AM (kdWs5)

Margins look OK to me. Do they not look OK to you?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 09:51 AM (HYE3N)

81 >>In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay,
bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual,
2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

"Abby" for short?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2017 09:51 AM (NOIQH)

82 In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

Most of them I don't identify with... except for 2-spirited. I mean who doesn't prefer a double malt scotch?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 20, 2017 09:51 AM (EgwCt)

83 No to mention Duane Eddy and the Rebels' "Rebel Rouser" and "Ghost Riders in the Sky."
Posted by: Wethal (shy lurker) at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (UuKHs)

Ummmmmmm......yup. Him too. Nothing worse than surfer music racists.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 09:53 AM (5VlCp)

84 I remember the good old days when it was just normal or

Oops. Delete.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 20, 2017 09:53 AM (Wjfv0)

85 I wish there was a bigger-embiggened pic of that library. There must be so much detail that is lost in the smallish picture.

Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 09:54 AM (ANIFC)

86 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 09:17 AM (e+mZR)

Uhm, The Partition was a poison pill and England knew it (and why a CWII would suck here). There was *one* thing John's Indian and Pakistani grad student peers agreed on. Both sides loved the movie Braveheart and the battle scenes with British deaths

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 09:54 AM (rp9xB)

87 That photo of the library would make a fantastic jigsaw puzzle.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 09:55 AM (V+03K)

88 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 20, 2017 09:21 AM (iVOAv)

Big thanks, Fen, I get so many wonderful recommendations from you. A couple weeks ago you mentioned a title I went searching for on Amazon and also found works by E.M. Bounds, who was born in 1835 and has solid five-star ratings for the timeless relevance of his words! I'm waiting to find a few more "must-haves" to get free shipping from Thrift books and can't wait to get his "The Power of Prayer," One-Minute Devotions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 20, 2017 09:32 AM (c8EhQ)

Speaking of prayer...My parish priest and I were discussing what sometimes seems to be the futility of prayer (whether asking for the same thing over and over is insulting to God -- since He obviously heard you the first time) when he mentioned St. Monica. Seems she prayed a solid 16 years for the conversion of her son, Augustine, who would later become St. Augustine.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 09:55 AM (joFoi)

89 Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency

Some Moron mentioned the Dirk Gently TV series so I gave it a try. I was not impressed (although I've watched only the first episode). Douglas Adams, author of The Hitchiker's Guide To the Galaxy, created a minor masterpiece of science fiction comedy with the epynomous first book. It is thoroughly British combining English history, English poetry, English academia, English poetical lore, science fiction and English humor (or humour) in a tale of an impending apocalypse. Why then transfer the setting to the US? Dirk himself is an English eccentric with equal amounts of charlaton, psychic, incompetent, and hero. Given this reimagining of basics, I don't know whether to be outraged or relieved that the identically named series has a plot that has nothing to do with either book.

Anyway, don't be put off this book by the Frodo series.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)

90 On paper.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August
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true,

you can buy black African's today in Libya

thanks Obama, Hillary and samatha power(wife of some real fucko)

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:55 AM (qHEw3)

91 I remember the good old days when it was just normal or

Oops. Delete.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 20, 2017 09:53 AM (Wjfv0)

I remember the good old days when the kinkiest things you had ever heard of were:

--guys who didn't like women, only each other
--guys who liked to wear dresses

...and that was about it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 09:56 AM (HYE3N)

92 LGBTQQIP2SAA.

I remember the good old days when it was just straight, bi, gay, lesbian.
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I'm noticing more and more, when I'm out and about in a large crowd, that there are more "Pat's" in the world these days, if you know what I mean.

People whose gender cannot be easily determined from a first or even a second look. And none of these people are hotties, either male or female. Lots and lots of out of shape, saggy and baggy, young to old folks. And the expressions on their faces are not happy or joyful now that they have what they want. They just look...sad, with a bit of what-are-you-lookin-at thrown in.

Posted by: Boots at August 20, 2017 09:56 AM (EBwPV)

93 Shouldn't there be a 'C' and an 'R' in LGBTQQIP2SAA for Cripples and Retards?

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 09:56 AM (Sfs6o)

94

Even if it's these pants which are part of a suit that should only be worn as a joke.

****

I notice the ensemble is called "El Muerto" and has a Day of the Dead theme, making me think...

It Ain't Over 'til It's Over - a limerick

At Dia de los Muertos ceremonies
You need a way to stand out from the phonies
"El Muerto" means "the dead"
But that's only in your head
Si tienes fuego en tus pantalones

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 09:56 AM (wPiJc)

95 Awww ... I'm disappointed to hear that Connie Willis decided to go with the establishment flow with regard to the Sad Puppies - I thought I was pretty up on the whole Puppies thing, too.
I've got three of her books on my to-read pile and two more on my Amazon wish list...
Still working on the followup to Lone Star Glory - my re-working of the Lone Ranger mythos with all the intentifying marks carefully removed. Any Morons want to volunteer to be beta readers? I should have the final adventure done by the beginning of next month. Email me - at clyahayes-at-gee-mail-dot-com.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 20, 2017 09:57 AM (xnmPy)

96 For all of us map-loving pedantics, a "water map" is better known as a "chart". Unless you're talking hydrology, of course.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (Wjfv0)

The Franklin Map store I was talking about sold maps. And charts. Now the charts were for use in navigation. Stronger paper, more durable, water depth information. But they also sold nearly the same maps/charts of navigable waters without the depth soundings. On thinner paper. Prettier. Suitable for framing but little else.

I see your point, just adding to it.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 20, 2017 09:57 AM (EgwCt)

97 The French were pretty damn close to backing the Confederacy. Had they not been defeated on Cinqo de Mayo, they'd have been in there swinging. They had a policy to develop an empire surrounding the Caribbean. The name of that policy was "Latin America," so, like, that's where that comes from.

There were also Americans who wanted an empire like that. Today we call them "Confederates."

It was all-of-a-sudden in the 1890's that England and France got all lovey-dovey, and "we" regularized relations with them on a stable and modern ("dishonest and secretive") basis. Boys' adventure novels right up to WWI usually had a dissolute, raison-d'etre Englishter or France-wah as the villain. Real American boys didn't play that.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 09:57 AM (H5rtT)

98 With what? By 1860 the British Army was in total disarray. Total opposite of their Navy, but the Brits weren't sailing to Atlanta...
They had their own problems, and the CSA just wasn't on their proverbial radar.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (MINbv)

With material, money and the Royal Navy breaking the Union blockade of Confederate ports. Britain becoming a formal ally of the Confederacy would have sent the war in a different direction. Both the Union and the Confederacy were stretched to the breaking-point in mid-1863 and an external actor could have tipped the balance in the favor of the Confederacy.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:57 AM (5Yee7)

99 I wish there was a bigger-embiggened pic of that library. There must be so much detail that is lost in the smallish picture.
Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 09:54 AM (ANIFC

You will get a larger version if you click on it. Not big enough for my tastes, but it is somewhat larger.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 09:58 AM (HYE3N)

100 Opposuits do not attract.

And I lurve me some maps. When I worked in DC there was a map store near my subway stop, and i used to stop in there now and again.

One of our friends gave us a huge atlas for our wedding gift - she knew both my husband and I loved maps. Of course, much of it is obsolete now.

Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 09:59 AM (DAcPP)

101 LGBTQQIP2SAA
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this is really discrimitory towards the gimps

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 09:59 AM (qHEw3)

102 Thanks to votermom and cool breeze for choosing "Meditations" for the Goodreads group. It continues to be fascinating and valuable. It truly is helping me deal with all the crap in the news without my temper (which makes Vesuvius look like a firecracker) erupting. It is so helpful and important to one's sanity and well being, the cost of the book should be covered by health insurance.

Even if you don't join the Goodreads AOSHQ group, Meditations is a great and important read and leads to so many branches of reason needed so badly these days.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 09:59 AM (V+03K)

103 Pretty glorious...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aSXHE3UTgQ8

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 10:00 AM (PUmDY)

104 not book related, but, for all campers out there, camping worlds' ceo says if you support trump, take your business elsewhere. just an f.y.i.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 10:00 AM (KP5rU)

105 My book group is reading The Buried Book by D. M. Pulley, a surprisingly engaging page turner about a nine year old kid whose slutty mother drops him off at her brother's farm north of Detroit in the early 50s, to keep him away from something sketchy she's involved with.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2017 09:32 AM (y7DUB)

LOL. That sounds a little like "Secondhand Lions," a movie highly recommended by the Moron Community. It stars Robert DuVal and Michael Caine as two "eccentric" long-lost uncles a young boy's slutty mother drops him with for a summer. Get the DVD from your library. Suitable to watch with young 'uns as well.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 10:00 AM (joFoi)

106 And that library in the picture is just incredible. I wouldn't mind getting locked in there with a case of water and some beef jerky for a few days.

Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 10:00 AM (DAcPP)

107 People whose gender cannot be easily determined from a first or even a second look. And none of these people are hotties, either male or female. Lots and lots of out of shape, saggy and baggy, young to old folks. And the expressions on their faces are not happy or joyful now that they have what they want. They just look...sad, with a bit of what-are-you-lookin-at thrown in.
Posted by: Boots at August 20, 2017 09:56 AM (EBwPV)

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that is because they are fucked in the head

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 10:01 AM (qHEw3)

108 I loved maps as a kid. Loved them so much I made my own little atlas of made-up countries as a tweener, with some rather nifty ink and color work if I do say so. I still have it somewhere.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 10:02 AM (QGoUX)

109 I picked up some books at Harvest Books yesterday - I think they're going to be having a sale every weekend to clear out their warehouse before their lease is up. I got "The Kashmir Gate" by Roger Perkins, about a pivotal moment in the Indian Mutiny; "Yusuf Khan: The Rebel Commandant" by S.C. Hill (1914), about 18th-Century warf-are in India; The Osprey Command series book on Garibaldi; "Fuzzy Wuzzy: Thwe Campaigns in The Eastern Sudan 1884-85" by Brian Robson and "Corunna" by Christopher Hibbert, about said campaign in the Peninsular War. My mom has been thinning out her library, so I grabbed her copies of Vince Flynn, Tom Clancy & Daniel Silva thrillers.

Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 10:02 AM (ANIFC)

110 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:27 AM (5Yee7)

Yeah, the Brits made a big deal out of out-claw ng slavery not that long before so it could have caused major internal political problems to support the south as long as slavery was an issue.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (rp9xB)

111 The "P" in that alphabet soup stands for paedo, by the way.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (6FqZa)

112 campers out there, camping worlds' ceo says if you support trump, take your business elsewhere
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\no problemo

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (qHEw3)

113 With material, money and the Royal Navy breaking the Union blockade of Confederate ports"

Post "Trent", the Brits could only muster 10,000 men for North America, and at the time many (this is all estimates, so take it for what it's worth) of the arms available were smoothbores.
There was much chest puffing, but in reality, British troops died due to poor supply and logistics just a few years prior in the Crimea and India.
By '62/'63, both the Indian and Egyptian cotton industries were on the upswing as well...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (MINbv)

114 Anyone else here ever read the Kim Standly Robinson Mars books?

In find them interesting and dull as dirt and I just can't quite put my finger on why.

Posted by: Sayomara at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (2kjMD)

115 Question...How do you dust the very top tier of books? Does anyone ever request that book on the top shelf, 5th in from the right?? I know they have movable stairs, but what if the librarian hates heights.

Posted by: Colin at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (7x0EJ)

116 Little known Civil War trivia: The northernmost engagement was in Vermont.

A few Rebs robbed a bank in Saint Albans, took the gold and made their way to Canada. The caper isn't classified as a battle but it has been designated an engagement.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (zkGZ8)

117 "England needs a Mussolini if the working man is to get a fair deal."

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

You want more Formula One? This is how you get more Formula One.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (H5rtT)

118 99 I wish there was a bigger-embiggened pic of that library. There must be so much detail that is lost in the smallish picture.
Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 09:54 AM (ANIFC

You will get a larger version if you click on it. Not big enough for my tastes, but it is somewhat larger.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 09:58 AM (HYE3N)

That's what I meant by wishing for a "bigger-embiggened" picture.

Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (ANIFC)

119 ...I don't buy that "pansexual" is a thing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (6FqZa)

120 116 Little known Civil War trivia: The northernmost engagement was in Vermont.

A few Rebs robbed a bank in Saint Albans, took the gold and made their way to Canada. The caper isn't classified as a battle but it has been designated an engagement.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (zkGZ

I recently finished a book on that - "Burn the Town and Sack the Banks!" by Cathryn Prince. A short, but interesting, read.

Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 10:05 AM (ANIFC)

121 119 ...I don't buy that "pansexual" is a thing.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (6FqZa)

Yeah, having sex with cookware is just weird.

Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 10:06 AM (ANIFC)

122 Rereading "The Lost Cause the Standard Southern History of the War of the Confederates" by Edward A. Pollard.

Because I like to study history, not tear it down or burn it.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 20, 2017 10:06 AM (6eWxL)

123 ...I don't buy that "pansexual" is a thing.
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I think that is the $10 blow job crowd

They mostly hang at truck stops. I think

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 10:06 AM (qHEw3)

124 ...I don't buy that "pansexual" is a thing."

Well, you take two cast iron skillets, warm slightly w/Crisco...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 20, 2017 10:06 AM (MINbv)

125 I had stuff to do around the house yesterday (including putting together a new bookcase), so I put on the Conan movies as background. Watched the worst, then the best, then the middle one. Whatever else you say about Destroyer, the music was great, the scenery was luscious, and Olivia D'Abo was hot!

Anyways, to wind down I grabbed on of my Del Ray Conan collection. It just happened to be the one with Tower of the Elephant in it. Gotta love the classics...

Posted by: Castle Guy at August 20, 2017 10:06 AM (Lhaco)

126 LOL. That sounds a little like "Secondhand Lions," a movie highly recommended by the Moron Community. It stars Robert DuVal and Michael Caine as two "eccentric" long-lost uncles a young boy's slutty mother drops him with for a summer. Get the DVD from your library. Suitable to watch with young 'uns as well.
Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 10:00 AM (joFoi)

Thanks for the rec. Big fan of Duvall.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2017 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

127 People whose gender cannot be easily determined from a first or even a second look. And none of these people are hotties, either male or female. Lots and lots of out of shape, saggy and baggy, young to old folks. And the expressions on their faces are not happy or joyful now that they have what they want. They just look...sad, with a bit of what-are-you-lookin-at thrown in.
Posted by: Boots at August 20, 2017 09:56 AM (EBwPV)

A while back, Mrs Cop and I were at a local bar patio sitting next to a bunch of the L-s in the "LGTQWTF" acronym and the "pitchers" in the relationships were all wearing the same uniform: short hair, plaid shirts and shorts with cargo-pockets. The "catchers" were all dressed in feminine styles.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 10:07 AM (5Yee7)

128 You like maps too? Google streetview can consume hours exploring the nooks and crannies of Europe and Asia. Wales, Iceland and rural Asia are glorious.

Posted by: whitecollar redneck at August 20, 2017 10:07 AM (TLh1E)

129 Question...How do you dust the very top tier of books? Does anyone ever request that book on the top shelf, 5th in from the right?? I know they have movable stairs, but what if the librarian hates heights.

Posted by: Colin
________

"While I'm up here, do you want a book about 5 cents' worth of licorice?"

"No."

*descends ladder* "OK, so what do you want?"

"I want a book about 10 cents' worth of licorice."

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 10:07 AM (zkGZ8)

130 anyone who spends their life "shaming" others for not thinking like a perpetually miserable, microchip-implanted, ideologically clubfooted, progressive brainwashed zombie Social Justice Warrior should be ashamed of themselves.

--

This...this! is sheer poetry.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 20, 2017 10:10 AM (mQ0Mc)

131 If I can't bang my All-Clad, I get all mad.

Posted by: Horny pansexual at August 20, 2017 10:10 AM (Od+LM)

132 For one of the most poignant looks at Robert E. Lee, I can't recommend too highly "Traveller" by Richard Adams (Watership Down). As the title implies, this is the story of the War and afterward as told by Lee's famous horse. It is masterful in portraying the emotions and perceptions of an animal who experiences sometimes horrific events that he doesn't understand while accompanying the man he loves in battle and on campaign.
Pet Morons, history buffs, and anyone who loves a great story will love this book. And I guarantee that the last paragraph will make you weep.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at August 20, 2017 10:11 AM (IJX6l)

133 Regarding the Brits and the Late Unpleasantness, its worth noting that they were far less dependent on the South for cheap cotton thanks to their pseudo conquest of Eggpt. The blockade effectively made it competitive.

Posted by: Jackal at August 20, 2017 10:11 AM (o3+fQ)

134
When I was just a teenager and first met my future wife she was astonished about how I could zip from bay to bay in the inland waters of New Jersey. I never had to look at a chart. I knew exactly where I was at any point in time, even if land was not visible.

I had already spent so many hours looking at charts and memorizing the detail of every bay and river, including water depths, I knew exactly what I was doing and could probably guess water depth at any point on the way within a foot or so.

The mind is a terrible thing to waste. It is also remarkably able to remember stuff when it wants to. I wonder what the modern day equivalent is... the guy with 100 apps on his phone?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 20, 2017 10:11 AM (EgwCt)

135 "Pansexual" is when you seduce your would-be lover with some music -- Zamfir's cover of "Cowboys from Hell" works well, I've read -- and then, by necessity, you do it like goats.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 10:11 AM (zkGZ8)

136 a-dios

Posted by: original jake at August 20, 2017 10:12 AM (qHEw3)

137 Re the Civil War and its "inevitability," Abe said: I have been driven many times upon my knees by the overwhelming conviction that I had no where else to go. My own wisdom and that of all about me seemed insufficient for that day.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 10:12 AM (joFoi)

138 I love to do the map quiz games that you can google up.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 20, 2017 10:14 AM (LuKE7)

139 For one of the most poignant looks at Robert E. Lee, I can't recommend too highly "Traveller" by Richard Adams (Watership Down).

Thanks for that recommendation: put it on the "To Be Read" list.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 10:14 AM (5Yee7)

140 I think that is the most gorgeous library I've ever seen.

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 10:15 AM (FKrah)

141 Personally, I've always wondered why the British didn't intervene in the
CV on the side of the South. Seems to me they could've negotiated a
sweet, sweet deal on cotton exports that would've kept their textile
mills humming for a long time.

My understanding is that they were worried about the North invading Canada if they did and they already had their hands full in other places.

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And, although they had been big in founding the slave trade, by this time they were fiercely anti-slavery (although their treatment of Chinese laborers in South African mines differed little from slavery and endured another thirty or forty years).

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:15 AM (Nwg0u)

142 Slippery Slope, all good. I've got a couple of those very same type of maps framed. The blue water sans depth sets off the particular island (discussed by the Horde at one point) quite nicely.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 20, 2017 10:16 AM (Wjfv0)

143 the only thing missing in this library is a yuge comfy bed.

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 10:17 AM (FKrah)

144 I lied last week when I said I was switching to fiction because the news was too grim. Read Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, per the rec by our host a couple of months ago. Reading about blowing things up was quite therapeutic. What a fun, well-written, book in addition to being informative as hell. And pleased to find that Giles Milton, the author, has more of the same.

Not sure what I'm going to read next -

I am sure that I'm skipping my run this morning as the brandy bottle seems to have made a contribution to my morning coffee.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at August 20, 2017 10:18 AM (oSjOY)

145 >>I love to do the map quiz games that you can google up.

My son is obsessed with maps and related statistics (tallest this, most populated, etc.). When he's interested in an area he'll fire up google street view and explore it, as if he walking the neighborhood. Very cool!
We love to check out the Bing home page and guess the place.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2017 10:18 AM (NOIQH)

146 I made my own little atlas of made-up countries as a
tweener
Posted by: All Hail Eris

That
is so sexy.
Blazing, steaming Yellowstone Caldera sexy.

I may have to compose a brief allegorical novel about you IYGWIM.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:18 AM (H5rtT)

147 100 ... "And I lurve me some maps. When I worked in DC there was a map store near my subway stop, and i used to stop in there now and again.

One of our friends gave us a huge atlas for our wedding gift - she knew both my husband and I loved maps. Of course, much of it is obsolete now."

bluebell, Mrs. JTB and I loved that map store. IIRC, it was near the Farragut West metro stop.

I don't regard maps as obsolete since they retain historical value. But I wish these Johnny-come-lately countries would have the good grace to keep the old borders and names. You know, the ones on the political map that pulled down in front of the blackboard in second grade. After going to the trouble to learn how to pronounce 'Tanganyika', they should have had the courtesy to keep the damn name.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 10:19 AM (V+03K)

148 "LGBTQQIP2SAA"

People whose only thought is to go in search of new, creative ways to rub their genitalia on things. They are the Captain Kirks of sex.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 10:19 AM (/qEW2)

149 The discussion of Moros and the Philippines a few days back sent me to my copy of "The Earth and Its Inhabitants: Oceania" (1890):

"In Mindanao...the teeth of the young men are filed according to a different pattern for every clan; the heads of the children are artificially deformed in many communities, and various systems of tattooing prevail amongst the tribes.

The expression "The Land of Terror", applied by Montano to the eastern region, might with equal truth be extended to nearly the whole island. When the Manobos, led by their high priest with his divine talisman, have succeeded in surprising their sleeping enemies, they slaughter all the men and carry away the women and children into slavery. After the victory the high priest opens the breast of the victim with the sacred knife, plunges the talisman in the flowing blood, and eats the heart or liver raw. The Mandayas...have a special term to designate the hero who has cut at least fifty heads. Vast territories have been transformed to solitudes by this incessant tribal warfare."

Later in the volume, those anthropophagous New Guineans, upon receiving big cuts of beef for the first time from some sailors, assumed there was a human giant aboard the vessel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 10:19 AM (QGoUX)

150 One final pleasure in the week's reading, the new issue of Backwoodsman magazine arrived. I've started the slow process of enjoying each article so it doesn't get stale before the next issue comes out in two months.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 10:20 AM (V+03K)

151 106 And that library in the picture is just incredible. I wouldn't mind getting locked in there with a case of water and some beef jerky for a few days.

Posted by: bluebell at August 20, 2017 10:00 AM (DAcPP)

===

Go on...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 20, 2017 10:20 AM (EZebt)

152 A few Rebs robbed a bank in Saint Albans, took the gold and made their way to Canada. The caper isn't classified as a battle but it has been designated an engagement.

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They made a (mostly bullshit) movie about that in the 50s or 60s. I think Van Heflin starred.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:21 AM (Nwg0u)

153 I just listened to Way Station on audio book. It's a nice little story. It leaves some deeper questions on the table.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at August 20, 2017 10:21 AM (J70i0)

154 I'm a map sexual. That's why my journey took so long. I ruined a lot of good maps and we got lost.

Posted by: Magellan Degeneres at August 20, 2017 10:23 AM (/qEW2)

155 Why don't they just say

EBS

Everyone but Straight. I feel like it covers more, and it's fewer letters.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at August 20, 2017 10:24 AM (smD62)

156 50
In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay,
bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual,
2-spirited, asexual, and allies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (QGoUX)
______________________I save time by saying he/she/it/ and the terribly confused.

Posted by: Long Running Fool at August 20, 2017 10:26 AM (oSjOY)

157 One reason England didn't intervene in the war was there was a significant anti-slavery block in England. Once it became apparent that the North was going to end slavery, it made supporting the South difficult. Plus they found other sources of cotton, notably India, to make up for a lot of the shortfall.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at August 20, 2017 10:26 AM (J70i0)

158 LGBTQQIP2SAA

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L, a queer, a female queer
G, the same except a guy
B, a one that swings both ways
T, a long, long way from here

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:26 AM (Nwg0u)

159 Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2017 10:18 AM (NOIQH)

Yes I do that with places I used to live. It's visiting without leaving my couch.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 20, 2017 10:27 AM (LuKE7)

160 In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay,
bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual,
2-spirited, asexual, and allies.

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N stands for nauseated by the whole thing.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:28 AM (Nwg0u)

161 So, is this all book related talk? I need to spew about politics; is the EMT still moving, or can I barf on this thread?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:29 AM (ty7RM)

162 LGBTQQIP2SAA - just imagine in a few years when this really gets weird.

Posted by: Weasel at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (Sfs6o)

163 LGBTQQIP2SAA

****

It's always in the same order, implying a hierarchy of degenerates. Why does L take priority over B? And why juxtapose the Q's?

If we were to be truly fair, the letters should be arrayed randomly with equal aggregate distribution over time and space.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (wPiJc)

164 2-spirited...should I even ask?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (ty7RM)

165 Maybe pan sexuals like doing it with crockpots?

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (wPiJc)

166 Rebel Yell a bio of stonewall Jackson...
-----------

It's a book and a bourbon!

-
And a Billy Idol song.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (Nwg0u)

167 Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (H5rtT)

I thought it was interesting because at the time everyone understood that Mussolini was a socialist. To have said "No, he's a fascist" would have made no sense to those alive at the time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (rp9xB)

168 111 The "P" in that alphabet soup stands for paedo, by the way.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (6FqZa)

I thought it stood for 'pansexual'.

(which I suppose includes paedo...)

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:31 AM (HYE3N)

169 ...and what's the diff between lez, gay and queer? Wouldn't queer work for all of the above?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:32 AM (ty7RM)

170 164 2-spirited...should I even ask?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (ty7RM)

I think it's shorthand for "I hate you Daddy! Why won't you pay more attention to me?!?"

Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 10:32 AM (ANIFC)

171 On Melanesia: "Incessant warfare prevails in certain islands... This is due to the necessity of procuring heads to decorate the chief's house and the war canoes; captives are also needed, to be slaughtered on certain solemn feasts, so that their souls may protect the plantations or bring success to the fishermen. Further victims are required to grace the funeral obsequies of the chiefs. The body is placed erect in the grave, then buried up to the neck, after which a fire is kindled to consume the flesh, the skull being carried off and set up in the canoe, serving as a temple. But the grave still has to be filled in with the youngest wife, a child, and the most valued treasures of the departed."

This is Clark Ashton Smith-level stuff.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 10:34 AM (QGoUX)

172
I don't regard maps as obsolete since they retain historical value. But I wish these Johnny-come-lately countries would have the good grace to keep the old borders and names. You know, the ones on the political map that pulled down in front of the blackboard in second grade. After going to the trouble to learn how to pronounce 'Tanganyika', they should have had the courtesy to keep the damn name.
Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 10:19 AM (V+03K)

It isn't there anymore, but Harrod's used to have an antique maps department. It was...exquisite. When we would go to London for medical stuff or stopping through on the way to a new post, we would take the kids to Harrods, and they would go to the toy department, the book department and the map department. The older gentleman who worked there was a living encyclopedia of cartography, and could give you the background and history of each map in the place. And there were many, many maps. The kids learned a lot from that lovely gentleman.

I had my heart set on an original Mercator of Eastern Europe, but sadly there were not enough dollars in my bank account to acquire it. But were were able to get gorgeous maps of Texas, circa 1801, Central America, and the territories of the sons of Noah (Shem, Japheth and Ham.)

Posted by: moki at August 20, 2017 10:34 AM (V+V48)

173 A little too much Dickie Mountbatten as hero

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Mrs. Wrecks is a Princess Diana fanatic so we watch a doc about Dickie's manipulations to make his royal but penniless nephew, the future Prince Phillip, the (almost) king by arranging his marriage to Elizabeth.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)

174

I'm so sick of this eclipse crap. It's stuff like this that makes me sick of people and their stupidity.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:36 AM (qAKlO)

175 >>
...and what's the diff between lez, gay and queer? Wouldn't queer work for all of the above?

Hush now, these people spend so much energy coming up with special names for their particular brand of not-straight!

It seems queer is used as a more general term? See it a lot with transgenders, like "queer transman" = woman-->man but because naughty bits not, er, modified, the dating of women makes them queer?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2017 10:36 AM (NOIQH)

176 2-spirited...should I even ask?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

A 2 spirit person is a gay American Indian.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 10:37 AM (/qEW2)

177 Youngest daughter was studying Italian online and two of her friends were taking German and Japanese when they were in high school. They referred to themselves as The Axis Powers.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 10:37 AM (joFoi)

178
So we have concluded that almost no one has a use for their Wisk, yes?

I'm really not gonna make meringue or whip cream ever.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:37 AM (qAKlO)

179 McClellan in particular comes across as a meglomaniac

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He was on a mission from God.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:37 AM (Nwg0u)

180
I just call them all DEVIANTS and PERBERTS.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:38 AM (qAKlO)

181 I made my own little atlas of made-up countries as a
tweener
Posted by: All Hail Eris

So did I.

Posted by: C.S. Lewis at August 20, 2017 10:38 AM (HYE3N)

182 To have said "No, he's a fascist" would have made no sense to those alive at the time.

On the other hand, there were some -- some like Enzo Ferrari and Tazio Nuvolari, for instance -- who drew a firm line of difference between Fascism ("real Italian fascism") and mere National Socialism.

But to reiterate, postwar "Grand Prix" racing was organised, to the extent one may call it that, by people, from England, who were enthusiastic supporters of both.

And those "both" certainly did, in their day, build some impressive cars.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:39 AM (H5rtT)

183
Fuck them and their stupid buzzwords. I don't speak totalitarianese.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:39 AM (qAKlO)

184
In the olden days, they were all called Sodomites, and that was good enough. Still is.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:39 AM (qAKlO)

185 What good are Mercator's north poles and equators, tropics zones and meridian lines?

Posted by: the Bellman at August 20, 2017 10:39 AM (/qEW2)

186 This is Clark Ashton Smith-level stuff.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 10:34 AM (QGoUX)

( *adds Clark Ashton Smith to his 'to be read' list* )

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:40 AM (HYE3N)

187 Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:36 AM (Nwg0u)

From what I read, 'Ol Dickie is the one who made Prince Charles the man (?) he is today as well. He sounds like a truly awful person with no moral compass and a very short-sighted world view.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 10:40 AM (rp9xB)

188 About 10 years ago I worked for the United States Geological Survey, part of the Dept. of Interior. The office, in Menlo Park, CA was the "Western Mapping Agency." They still had some of the original plates used for the topo maps they produced. It's all digits now, but they had some cool stuff.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at August 20, 2017 10:40 AM (MCEs2)

189 A blank piece of paper is as good as any map.

Posted by: the Bellman at August 20, 2017 10:40 AM (/qEW2)

190 @179 No, God was on a mission from McClellan.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:40 AM (H5rtT)

191
and here's April Wine's "I Like To Rock" to get you/me going to do our damn laundry!

whoever they are/were

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlcY_enzwmI

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:42 AM (qAKlO)

192 Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:39 AM (H5rtT)

Ah, I know nothing of car racing and had missed the joke. Thank you for the information.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 10:43 AM (rp9xB)

193 If we were to be truly fair, the letters should be arrayed randomly with equal aggregate distribution over time and space.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (wPiJc)

Well, how about this: every time you speak or write it, the letters have to be in a different random order. Because fairness.

And if you mess up even once, it's off to the Goolag!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:43 AM (HYE3N)

194 Staying home from church today, using my daughter's overnight party as a convenient excuse. I'm finishing off the stupid book. It's taken all summer, and this is the last day before I start teaching. Yargh! Must finish book!

The book's finished, but I'm in the last of the third revision I planned for summer, before I start the next phase of letting real human beings critique it and help me ready it for publishing. I took last week's book thread comments under advisement.

So next week is when I start Phase III of the book's development. But between me and that is a ton of revisions that need to be input into the document from the printout. And some rewrites. And a chapter I have decided I need to add. And probably a hundred other things that I haven't thought of, which will break my self-imposed deadline.

Posted by: Smallish Bees at August 20, 2017 10:43 AM (yjhOG)

195 Identity Politics: too complicated for the stupid, too stupid for the intelligent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 10:44 AM (rKjxV)

196 OM, the margins are blown on my tablet as well. Looks like Skip's initial link.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 10:44 AM (rp9xB)

197 In the olden days, they were all called Sodomites, and that was good enough. Still is.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:39 AM (qAKlO)

Also, catamites.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:44 AM (HYE3N)

198
and Vegemites?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:45 AM (qAKlO)

199
Vegemite Sammiches?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:46 AM (qAKlO)

200 Currently reading Asimov's original Foundation trilogy. It holds up well, despite its age. I've also been reading a great book on technical history: Guns, Sails, & Empires, by Carlo Cipolla. He traces technological innovation and European exapansion from 1400-1700.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at August 20, 2017 10:46 AM (NhF/Q)

201
six Foot four
and full of muscle

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:46 AM (qAKlO)

202 Deep Dark Truthful Mirror is one of those songs that are applause worthy

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 10:46 AM (PUmDY)

203 I'm offended black people aren't going to be looking at me. They should move so they have a better view.

Posted by: The Eclipse at August 20, 2017 10:47 AM (UW4Uc)

204 @197 The Canadians have also Gomorrahy.
Kind of puts them one up on the rest of the field.
I'm sure we'll all be...stumping...for them.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:47 AM (H5rtT)

205 Speaking of Enzo Ferrari, a story that needs to be written, and probably also make a great movie: c.1960, Henry Ford Jr. almost bought Ferrari. Ford showed up in Italy w/a team of lawyers, and Enzo showed up with his accountant. They looked the contract over, and almost signed. Then they noticed Ferrari would have to relinquish their racing program to Ford. Enzo got up and said: "We're going to lunch." He never came back.
This set the stage for one of the most dramatic racing battles over the next 6 Le Mans.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:48 AM (ty7RM)

206 196 OM, the margins are blown on my tablet as well. Looks like Skip's initial link.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 10:44 AM (rp9xB)

Should be fixed now.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:48 AM (HYE3N)

207
Sometimes A Map Is Just A Cigar - a limerick

When it comes to cartographic inspection
Ol' Mercator had a real good selection
But if you take a globe like that
And try to represent it flat
You're bound to be accused of projection

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 10:48 AM (wPiJc)

208 Don't know why I didn't think of it before but a response to all those that use the illogical comparison of the British having statues of American Revolutionaries, you might want to visit Scotland and look at some of their statues.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 20, 2017 10:49 AM (LuKE7)

209

btw, ever really listen to the lyrics for A Long Cool Woman?

they're kinda awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0xpkk0yaQ

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:50 AM (qAKlO)

210 I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks @ 158 --

Thanks (no sarc) for putting that in my head. That's funny stuff.

Q - My wardrobe's run amok
Q - I don't know what to (etc.)

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 10:50 AM (zkGZ8)

211 "Mrs. Wrecks is a Princess Diana fanatic so we watch a doc about Dickie's manipulations to make his royal but penniless nephew, the future Prince Phillip, the (almost) king by arranging his marriage to Elizabeth."

And here I thought it was a love match. Sigh.

/sarc

In truth he would have done the crown a huge service if he had arranged for Elizabeth to marry someone other than a first cousin.

Posted by: Tuna at August 20, 2017 10:50 AM (jm1YL)

212 205>
The book is called "Go Like Hell: Ford, Ferrari, and Their Battle for Speed and Glory at Le Mans" by A. J. Baime. A good read.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at August 20, 2017 10:50 AM (MCEs2)

213
Lyrics are like books, no?

Prose and text and stuff?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:51 AM (qAKlO)

214 they're kinda awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0xpkk0yaQ
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:50 AM (qAKlO)

Isn't it about an FBI sting?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:51 AM (HYE3N)

215 "The "catchers" were all dressed in feminine styles. "

So this Lipstick Lesbian walks into the bull dyke biker bar and sashays up to the bartender, who says "I haven't seen you in here before, what's your name?"

"Mary"

"But that's a guy's name!"

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 10:51 AM (pV/54)

216 This is due to the necessity of procuring heads to decorate the chief's house

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So a lot like progressivism.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 10:52 AM (Nwg0u)

217 On Melanesia: "Incessant warfare prevails in certain islands...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 10:34 AM (QGoUX)

It's fascinating the different cultures the early explorers met in the pacific. Magellan, Cook, Bligh and others. Some islands like Tahiti were hedonistic paradise. On others they killed and ate you.

Posted by: JackS at August 20, 2017 10:52 AM (DknNB)

218 Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 10:48 AM (wPiJc)

One of your better ones. Nice work.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:52 AM (HYE3N)

219 Well, how about this: every time you speak or write it, the letters have to be in a different random order. Because fairness.

And if you mess up even once, it's off to the Goolag!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader
________

I'm vicariously offended by your omission of the number. Thanks in advance for all the salt you're going to mine.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 10:52 AM (zkGZ8)

220 Mornin'.

I just flew in from Colorado and boy are my arms tired! My reading this week consisted entirely of low-brow men's thrillers as airplane reading. Read one David Baldacci or ghost-written "Vince Flynn" novel, you've read 'em all. It was a book-free but also internet-free, MFM free and politics-free sojourn to an off-the-path corner of the RMNP, and that, my friends, is golden these days.

Weather was freakin' spectacular. My goodness, Colorado is blessed with some gorgeous summers. It was funny, the whole world seemed to be pouring in for the eclipse just as we were leaving.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at August 20, 2017 10:53 AM (ul9CR)

221 One interesting thing about Way Station, it reveals the truth about teleportation devices.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 10:53 AM (QQ+il)

222
Isn't it about an FBI sting?

I guess. He's an informant? But a beauty comes along and distracts him.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:53 AM (qAKlO)

223 And this Blue Lives Matter thing. I got a real problem with having my paradigm co-opted. Somebody needs to pay.

Posted by: Superintelligent shade of the color blue at August 20, 2017 10:54 AM (UW4Uc)

224
One interesting thing about Way Station, it reveals the truth about teleportation devices.

I mean, really, didn't The Fly do that?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:54 AM (qAKlO)

225
The Fly was a book, right?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:54 AM (qAKlO)

226 But a beauty comes along and distracts him."

So - King Kong?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 20, 2017 10:54 AM (MINbv)

227 Greenland to rest of the world: "Does Mercator make my butt look big?"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:54 AM (ty7RM)

228 Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 10:48 AM (HYE3N)

Looks like it. Thanks.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 10:54 AM (rp9xB)

229 I see there is a move afoot to remove the Balbo Monument, a gift from Mussolini to Chicago to commemorate Italo Balbo's trans-Atlantic flight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balbo_Monument

Balbo, a celebrated aviator, looked like a better-groomed Bluto. He was a big hero of the Italian-Americans. In his favor, he was not a fan of Nazi Germany or their anti-semitic race laws.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 10:55 AM (QGoUX)

230
The most stupid lyrics go to...Bang A Gong, or any Aerosmith song.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:55 AM (qAKlO)

231 Read Harry Potter and the Prisoner From Azkaban (Harry Potter #3), really terrific. I'll have to rewatch the movie because I don't remember seeing half of it.

Listened to Revenge of the Assassin (Assassin #2) by Russell Blake, a thriller about a master assassin targeting a political figure and the government forces determined to stop him. Lot of action, enjoyed it.

Posted by: waelse1 at August 20, 2017 10:55 AM (+7KtG)

232 Mercator? I hardly knew 'er!

Posted by: Obligatory at August 20, 2017 10:55 AM (wPiJc)

233 The most stupid lyrics go to...Bang A Gong, or any Aerosmith song.

Posted by: Soothsayer
________

Fitting, then, that The Joe Perry Project covered "Bang a Gong."

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 10:56 AM (zkGZ8)

234
I see there is a move afoot to remove the Balbo Monument, a gift from Mussolini to Chicago to commemorate Italo Balbo's trans-Atlantic flight.

All monuments and statues that represent White Aggression in any form are targeted for removal. That is the real criteria.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:57 AM (qAKlO)

235 @205 As far as I know, "My Terrible Joys" has not been translated in English. It just has to be a ripping yarn.

I'd like to hear even more about Ferrari's feud with Wilfredo Ricart when they were both at Alfa Romeo. Ricart, probably the better fascist, went to Spain and built very fine trucks and buses, and about a hundred of a sports car that is somewhat more Ferrari than Ferrari.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 10:57 AM (H5rtT)

236 Was listening to a collection of Sayer mysteries and
it had a teaser for Murder Must Advertise. One of the characters
states that England needs a Mussolini if the working man is to get a
fair deal. Seemed very timely.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 09:48 AM (rp9xB)

Murder Must Advertise is probably one of the best Peter Whimsey books.
Sayers worked for a while as a copywriter for an ad agency so a lot of the particulars are probably autobiographical--one section the secretary is wearing a sweater in muggy Summer heat with thunderstorms coming on because the representative of a prudish client is coming for a meeting at the office and she was showing "too much skin"--and the interplay of personalities are much more vivid than any other book; the small details that do nothing for the story but do flesh out the world in depth and feel are there to roll around in.

The other good Peter Whimsey story is Busman's Holiday, where Peter marries Harriet and then solve a murder in the basement of their new home.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2017 10:57 AM (mkDpn)

237 Does 2-spirited = schizophrenic?

It sounds like it. Though I suppose that would be too on the nose.

Baldilocks has it more or less right today with her point of Blacks being used again by the Democrat Party as their shock troops:

http://baldilocks-talking.blogspot.com/2017/08/black-americans-organized-lefts.html

I read somewhere that the minimum tipping point for revolution in a country is when you get roughly 10-15% of the population completely onboard with the scheme.

I think that's been a project of the hard left for years and the Neo-Slavery of LBJ's Great Society:

A solid 10% of the population of voters as a solely owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party.

I guess Hillary! was supposed to hammer home the Cultural Revolution, but-

*sad trombone*

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2017 10:58 AM (9q7Dl)

238 So we have concluded that almost no one has a use for their Wisk, yes?

I'm really not gonna make meringue or whip cream ever.

Food thread crossover! Now, how can I sneak in a gun thread comment?

I missed that conversation, but no. I use a wisk all the time. In particular, I like my omelets fluffy and the way to get that is to add a little water (about 1 Tbs per egg) and wisk the ever lovin' crap out of it.

I have used a wisk for making whipped cream and it was way too much work. Use a wisk attachment on a mixer for that.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 20, 2017 10:58 AM (7oUUT)

239
If there is a statue of Henry Ford somewhere, and I suspect there is, the Left wants to destroy.

Why?

Because White Man. Because White imperialism. Because White capitalism.

This is a RACIST anti-Judo-Christian anti-Western movement and nothing else.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:59 AM (qAKlO)

240
The story of Bat Spiderman

http://www.engrish.com/2017/08/batman-begins

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 10:59 AM (IqV8l)

241 One interesting thing about Way Station, it reveals the truth about teleportation devices.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 10:53 AM (QQ+il)

I'm assuming that means:

You have to murder yourself to teleport.

That would be a neat test for the Human Soul if you came out "different" on the other side.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2017 11:01 AM (9q7Dl)

242 I think Harriet Tubman testified before congress that ex-slaves should not be returned to Africa. I don't think they should have listened to her. They should have been sent to Liberia, and then have to apply individually in order to immigrate here, like people of other countries.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:02 AM (/qEW2)

243 The story of Bat Spiderman

That's 45 seconds of my life I don't get back.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 11:03 AM (ty7RM)

244
I see there is a move afoot to remove the Balbo Monument

Darned Hobbit!

Posted by: Juan McCain at August 20, 2017 11:03 AM (IqV8l)

245 Anyone else here ever read the Kim Standly Robinson Mars books?

In find them interesting and dull as dirt and I just can't quite put my finger on why.

Posted by: Sayomara at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (2kjMD)

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I read Red Mars quite awhile back and I was impressed with it enough to continue the series.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 20, 2017 11:04 AM (6n332)

246 This week I read To Hell and Back by Audie Murphy, his biography of service in WW2, although it was more about the other men he served with than himself. Murphy focuses more on their personalities, greatness, service, and quiet heroism than himself, and even when he describes the acts he was awarded so many medals for, it comes across not as bragging but merely a man doing what he had to do, not really thinking about what was going on except the job.

Excellent book, the guy was incredibly gifted in so many ways. Except height. He was just a little guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 20, 2017 11:05 AM (39g3+)

247 Is there a worse crypto-Nazi than PP founder Margaret Sanger?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 11:05 AM (pV/54)

248 I see there is a move afoot to remove the Balbo Monument

Darned Hobbit!
Posted by: Juan McCain at August 20, 2017 11:03 AM (IqV8l)
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I laffed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:06 AM (QGoUX)

249
I had such an erotic dream last night that when I woke up Mercator couldn't beat my projection.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 20, 2017 11:07 AM (EgwCt)

250 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:02 AM (/qEW2)

Many people thought blacks and whites could never co-exist peacefully. The author of Uncle Tom's Cabin believe that Haiti and Liberia were the only answer. Clearly Tubman had greater faith in both, and she was proved right on an individual level.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 11:07 AM (rp9xB)

251 Oops, edited and made comment *less* clear. Tubman clearly had greater faith in both blacks and whites that they could live together as humans.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 20, 2017 11:08 AM (rp9xB)

252 I see there is a move afoot to remove the Balbo Monument, a gift from Mussolini to Chicago to commemorate Italo Balbo's trans-Atlantic flight.

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During the 30s a (mostly hypothetical) truly large formation or airplanes was known as a Balbo. Italy backing the wrong horse in WWII ended that.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 11:09 AM (Nwg0u)

253 The most stupid lyrics go to...Bang A Gong, or any Aerosmith song.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 10:55 AM (qAKlO)

Actually, any T-Rex song would qualify.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 11:09 AM (HYE3N)

254 Speaking of books, when in 1862 Lincoln met Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of Uncle Tom's Cabin, he's said to have said:

"So you're the little woman who wrote the book that started this great war."

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 11:10 AM (pV/54)

255 Is there a worse crypto-Nazi than PP founder Margaret Sanger?
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 11:05 AM (pV/54)

George Soros?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 11:10 AM (HYE3N)

256 The secret is that the transporter doesn't move you, it creates an exact replica that thinks it's you.

The You has to be killed to keep society in balance.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:10 AM (QQ+il)

257
You have to murder yourself to teleport.

Eh. That could read better.

To teleport is to murder yourself.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2017 11:11 AM (9q7Dl)

258 I read Red Mars quite awhile back and I was impressed with it enough to continue the series.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 20, 2017 11:04 AM (6n332)
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That should have said "wasn't".

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 20, 2017 11:12 AM (6n332)

259 The secret is that the transporter doesn't move you, it creates an exact replica that thinks it's you.

The You has to be killed to keep society in balance.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:10 AM (QQ+il)

Ah.

I wonder if the writer of "The Prestige" read "Way Station".

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2017 11:12 AM (9q7Dl)

260 I figured this scene from "A Night at the Opera" was spoofing the furiously bearded Italo Balbo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38N5OcZx3ko

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:13 AM (QGoUX)

261 Stupid lyrics? Ladies and Gentlemen I give you:

MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh no!

Amazingly a #2 hit, amazingly sung by Richard Harris.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 11:14 AM (pV/54)

262 OT: CNN allows AntiFa to edit its already ridiculously prl-AntiFa story.

https://tinyurl.com/ybwe3ex5

I don't know why they call it Fake News.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 11:15 AM (Nwg0u)

263 Steve, I don't agree with the end of slavery the choice to me belonged to those specific individuals if they wanted to remain or leave

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 11:17 AM (FKrah)

264 237
Does 2-spirited = schizophrenic?

It sounds like it. Though I suppose that would be too on the nose.

Baldilocks has it more or less right today with her point of Blacks being used again by the Democrat Party as their shock troops:

----------------------------

"Helter Skelter" sums it up perfectly.

Posted by: Javems at August 20, 2017 11:18 AM (yOqwj)

265 During the 30s a (mostly hypothetical) truly large formation or airplanes was known as a Balbo. Italy backing the wrong horse in WWII ended that.
Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 11:09 AM (Nwg0u)
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Lots of great aviation work coming out of Italy. Umberto Nobile's airship Norge, which flew over the North Pole, actually beat Byrd who logged incorrect (some say fraudulent) navigational data.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:18 AM (QGoUX)

266 Henry Ford was, if nothing else, his own man and an original thinker.
Which means that he was wrong about almost everything, and duped a lot.
Probably the archetype for the loonie-tune billionaire accidental entrepreneurs we're so enamored of now. I think historians thought they'd broken the mold, and there wouldn't be any super-rich wacko-birds like him any more, and then came computers, which excited them somehow, and look where we are now.

Ford bought czarist anti-semitism lock, stock and barrel, didn't use the Oxford comma -- ran his friends backers and competitors in and out of business, was the biggest-time Fellow Traveller of them all (making a gift of the Model T plant including its line supervisors the soviet people, and I think it's finally accepted that the last of the bosses is finally dead, since the gulags are closed).

He bought Lincoln because it was embarrassing to have his wife ride in a Cadillac, and he is rumored to have bought the Old Latrobe Brewing Company because she "served" a lot of their product.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 11:18 AM (H5rtT)

267 It seems queer is used as a more general term? See
it a lot with transgenders, like "queer transman" = woman-->man but
because naughty bits not, er, modified, the dating of women makes them
queer?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2017 10:36 AM (NOIQH)

Even if such women do get their parts modified, they would still be queer... just with a built-in dildo (and how the heck do we get into these conversations?)

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 11:20 AM (FTXAT)

268 Yes specialized in bizarre or incomprehensible lyrics, but they weren't necessarily stupid. They were more tone poems, words that flowed together well to go with the music, without exact meaning.

As for stupid lyrics you just have to look at any top pop song since about 1997 and you have a winner.

Rhianna: "There's a Thug In My Life"
There's a thug in my life, how'ma gonna tell my mama
She gonna say it ain't right, but he's so good to me
There's a thug in my life, and its gonna cause crazy drama
I'm gonna see him tonight, I'm gonna give him everything

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 20, 2017 11:20 AM (39g3+)

269 Another call to ~~boycott~~ brothercott the NFL, this time from an unexpected source. CAVEAT: Link goes to the NYT.

https://tinyurl.com/y85o2bq3

Sign me up, coach.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 11:20 AM (Nwg0u)

270 The secret is that the transporter doesn't move you, it creates an exact replica that thinks it's you.

The You has to be killed to keep society in balance.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

This presupposes materialism. If such a device existed, it's possible that an exact replica that was DOA.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:22 AM (8x8kp)

271 Amazingly a #2 hit, amazingly sung by Richard Harris.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 11:14 AM (pV/54)

I think a lot of people are like me in that they aren't drawn to a song by the lyrics at all. It's the music that is the pull.

So, here they humming along with "MP" and my! what dramatic music and emotive singing! this song is great-

so they buy the single and-

What. The. Fuck.!

That may or may not have happened to me once or twice.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2017 11:23 AM (9q7Dl)

272 What was the Steven King book with the Indian Burialground? Pet Cemetery?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:24 AM (QQ+il)

273 What was the Steven King book with the Indian Burialground? Pet Cemetery?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:24 AM (QQ+il)

Yup.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 11:25 AM (FTXAT)

274 I'm creaped by the idea of dead people being revived and walking around souless.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:25 AM (QQ+il)

275 find my way, end of the day, good lord Al Green is sublime

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 11:26 AM (PUmDY)

276 >>Another call to boycott brothercott the NFL, this time from an unexpected source.

Can't say I find a group of black police supporting Kaepernick al that surprising in today's environment.

The left has been trying to divide the country along racial, gender, religious and any other lines than can for decades. Where we are today is the inevitable destination of their tactics. If we had an actual free press this would be obvious to everyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)

277 I'm creaped by the idea of dead people being revived and walking around souless.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:25 AM (QQ+il)
Zombies are one of the creepier monster archetypes out there.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 11:27 AM (FTXAT)

278 Gosh, I missed a lick. The German Nazis idolized Ford, fellow travelling and all, and rube that he was he didn't know not to take a "Kapitan of Industrie" cross from von Ribbentropf, so, he's a communist nazi.

So there are still people who won't buy a Ford product, because, jew-killer, and yet tool around in cars made by the successors of firms that actually supplied the fascist armed forces.

You can't help but ~~feel sorry for~~ laugh out loud at the NFL, the way they shrugged off the 5% of so of the gate they were losing to "us" boycotting them for being left-wing assholes, and now getting boycotted In Case You Missed It by their own left-wing assholes for not being lefter-winger-assholer. They will go down to bankruptcy, though, not regretting getting into pink-shoe politics.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 11:27 AM (H5rtT)

279 I think Harriet Tubman testified before congress that ex-slaves should not be returned to Africa. I don't think they should have listened to her. They should have been sent to Liberia, and then have to apply individually in order to immigrate here, like people of other countries.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:02 AM (/qEW2)

A few years back, for all of his racist rhetoric, syndicated radio host Tom Joyner axed all the black folks boarding the ship for his annual cruise the following question: If your ancestors had had the choice whether to stay in Africa or come to America -- as slaves -- what would you have told them to do?

More than 95 percent said they would have said to leave Africa!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 11:28 AM (joFoi)

280
Baldilocks has it more or less right today with her point of Blacks being used again by the Democrat Party as their shock troops:

'Used' is the exactly appropriate term. And when the democrats discover that the huge Venn diagram overlap of both Republican and Democrats who are of the 'law and order' ilk guarantees loss for the Democrats at the voting booth they'll turn the money spigot off and the protests will stop.

If the mid-terms were in a few short weeks these protests would never have started this summer. The Democrats are playing a dangerous game thinking that by this time next year people will have forgotten these shenanigans.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 20, 2017 11:30 AM (EgwCt)

281 A few years back, for all of his racist rhetoric,
syndicated radio host Tom Joyner axed all the black folks boarding the
ship for his annual cruise the following question: If your ancestors
had had the choice whether to stay in Africa or come to America -- as
slaves -- what would you have told them to do?

More than 95 percent said they would have said to leave Africa!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 20, 2017 11:28 AM (joFoi)

Consistency is not leftists' strong point.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 11:31 AM (FTXAT)

282 I think a lot of people are like me in that they aren't drawn to a song by the lyrics at all. It's the music that is the pull.

So, here they humming along with "MP" and my! what dramatic music and emotive singing! this song is great-

so they buy the single and-

What. The. Fuck.!

That may or may not have happened to me once or twice.

-
I occasionally listen to old 60s music with new for nostalgia's sake and am horrified by the lyrics I never noticed.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 11:32 AM (Nwg0u)

283 That crazy-hippie "MacArthur Park" is by Jimmy Webb, who wrote all the Glen Campbell songs you probably think are quite profound.

He's a Baptist, but he used to drink a little.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 11:33 AM (H5rtT)

284 Does Baldilocks still comment here?

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2017 11:34 AM (y7DUB)

285 Posted by: Sayomara at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (2kjMD)

Really loved the idea of terraforming Mars over hundreds of years, but then the author's focus turned his focus to writing about people, and meh. May re-read it again at some point to see if it's better than I remember.

Posted by: waelse1 at August 20, 2017 11:35 AM (+7KtG)

286 >>If the mid-terms were in a few short weeks these protests would never have started this summer. The Democrats are playing a dangerous game thinking that by this time next year people will have forgotten these shenanigans.

They won't be stopping. Antifa and the hardcore black bloc protesters don't answer to the Democrats, they have their own agenda.

Democrats made a deal with the devil with their tacit approval of antifa and accepting them as their own for short term gain. It will backfire on them as their actions get even more extreme just like the Russia carp is beginning to backfire.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 11:35 AM (/tuJf)

287 About maps I had to look up and then save a map of Silesia that has both German and then the de-Germinized names in Polish of Silesia so I can follow Friedrich's travels.
Again I got side tracked for awile on that matter, there was a lot of retaliatory atrocities in eastern Europe after 1945.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 11:35 AM (pPKG5)

288 JS, pretty great from same show...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKdv69aPSCM

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 11:35 AM (PUmDY)

289 Another call to boycott brothercott the NFL, this time from an unexpected source.
Can't say I find a group of black police supporting Kaepernick al that surprising in today's environment.
The left has been trying to divide the country along racial, gender, religious and any other lines than can for decades. Where we are today is the inevitable destination of their tactics. If we had an actual free press this would be obvious to everyone.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)

Yup.......seems like the liberal colored folks want a return to some form of segregation.

What's next a WFL? "White Football League"

Their new chant will soon be "Segregation now, segregation fore ebber!"

George Wallace was ahead of his time.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 11:36 AM (5VlCp)

290 My understanding is that they were worried about the North invading Canada if they did and they already had their hands full in other places.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:11 AM (mpXpK)

The evangelicals were a powerful force in Victorian England and they (and many ordinary British people) were very opposed to slavery. They were the ones, led by Rev. Wilberforce, who had stopped the Atlantic slave trade.

The aristos sided with the South.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V : The Brewers bats have died at August 20, 2017 11:36 AM (P8951)

291 I should read my comment before hitting the Post button. #FutureAuthor

Posted by: waelse1 at August 20, 2017 11:36 AM (+7KtG)

292 The new NFL boycott is actually quite interesting. No way the low info crowd goes along, but as ratings continue to decline because of these ridiculous protests, it will be characterized as effective. Sow the wind, etc.

Posted by: ramajama at August 20, 2017 11:37 AM (D+pwC)

293 Does Baldilocks still comment here?

Infrequently. She was around a few days ago.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 20, 2017 11:37 AM (7oUUT)

294 Soros isn't a crypto-Nazi, although it's well known that he collaborated in his youth, turning in Jews to the real Nazis for pay.

He's a Globalist of the worst kind. He wants the world to be run by a select 400 or fewer, to include his spawn and himself (who will live forever because he's made pact with the Vampire Masters).

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 11:37 AM (pV/54)

295 Another call to boycott brothercott the NFL, this time from an unexpected source. CAVEAT: Link goes to the NYT.

https://tinyurl.com/y85o2bq3

Sign me up, coach.
Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 11:20 AM (Nwg0u)

I can't tell you how happy this makes me. Every dimwitted jackwagon is going to boycott the En Eff Ell for every stupid reason they can think of: Not enough wimminz, gays, trannies, hobos, drug addicts, wife beaters, and other assorted general malcontents.

Once the En Eff Ell becomes the Social Justice League, and entirely ceases to be about how well you play, and how you can help a team win, the whole thing comes crashing down.

My opinion is, it started with the rule that you had to interview at least one black dude when you had a head coach opening. What a flippin' joke. People still think the world is about fairness. Good grief, the entire history of this planet shows otherwise, but these clowns and idiots are going to keep fighting that fight.

I love it.

Let it burn (c) 2017.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:38 AM (Pz4pT)

296 "Can't say I find a group of black police supporting Kaepernick al that surprising in today's environment. "

They are idiots. Black cops have been shot by the BLMers.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V : The Brewers bats have died at August 20, 2017 11:38 AM (P8951)

297 Leftists haven't stopped at Confederate monuments, Joan of Arc, Frank Rizzo, and Abraham Lincoln have all gotten it.
I'm getting the feeling AntiFa doesn't want you to have anything nice.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 11:39 AM (pPKG5)

298 I had a Russian carp backfire on me once. Very messy.

Posted by: RI Red - A loaf of bread, a bottle of covfefe, and thou. at August 20, 2017 11:40 AM (b1IHT)

299 Obama should adopt this technology.

https://tinyurl.com/ya4zoxup

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 20, 2017 11:40 AM (Nwg0u)

300 the nfl won't survive with my support, won't die without it. colon krapperdick is a terrible quarterback, white, black, whatever. if he had anything to contribute to a team, he would be signed. i really don't care about the nfl at all. my life wouldn't change with or without it. so, i really have nothing to boycott. i just don't care.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 11:41 AM (KP5rU)

301 That crazy-hippie "MacArthur Park" is by Jimmy Webb, who wrote all the Glen Campbell songs you probably think are quite profound.
He's a Baptist, but he used to drink a little.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 11:33 AM (H5rtT)

Yup....if I remember right he was a long haired hippy freak back in the day. 60's and all.

Great songwriter. I think Glen told him when they first met to get a haircut.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 11:42 AM (5VlCp)

302 You can't help but feel sorry for laugh out loud at the NFL, the way they shrugged off the 5% of so of the gate they were losing to "us" boycotting them for being left-wing assholes, and now getting boycotted In Case You Missed It by their own left-wing assholes for not being lefter-winger-assholer. They will go down to bankruptcy, though, not regretting getting into pink-shoe politics.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 20, 2017 11:27 AM (H5rtT)

That pudgy pile of shit, Roger Goodell, will flush everything away. He's like a modern real life embodiment of George Costanza where every decision he makes is wrong. I have no idea which of the dickweed owners are behind him but he's never worked outside of the NFL which shows what type inbred trash culture is promulgated.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2017 11:42 AM (y7DUB)

303 297 Leftists haven't stopped at Confederate monuments, Joan of Arc, Frank Rizzo, and Abraham Lincoln have all gotten it.
I'm getting the feeling AntiFa doesn't want you to have anything nice.
Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 11:39 AM (pPKG5)
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Didn't some wag post a pic of a statue of Colonel Sanders being toppled?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:42 AM (QGoUX)

304 If your ancestors had had the choice whether to stay in Africa or come to America -- as slaves -- what would you have told them to do?

More than 95 percent said they would have said to leave Africa!

Posted by: SandyCheeks

I read here that Muhammed Ali said the same thing. Thing is, if they had been made to immigrate here individually, I think that integration would have been more successful. The left wouldn't have them as a weapon by which to try to club their way to power.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:43 AM (/qEW2)

305 What a library!

Anybody else thinking of 'To Your Scattered Bodies Go' Phillip Jose Farmer?

The problem with early 70s SF is that they were so focused on sex that sometimes really interesting ideas got lost in the kink. I think a lot of them fell into that -- the really good ones recovered, but for a while it got really boring.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2017 11:44 AM (MIKMs)

306 >>They are idiots. Black cops have been shot by the BLMers.

Well, yea. But more cowardly than anything else.

It doesn't take a lot of guts to go along with the mob.

You want to see real courage take a look at the speakers from yesterday's Free Speech rally, aka Nazi rally, in Boston. One of the featured speakers is a Republican running for Senate against Warren, Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai.

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai is an Indian born computer scientist with 4, count 'em 4, degrees from MIT. He is about as far from a racist as one could be yet he is now going to wear that label. Meanwhile, the Boston PD was forced to admit that the leftist counter protesters were pelting the police with bottles of urine and other objects.

To believe anything the left says these days requires not just stupidity but abject cowardice.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 11:44 AM (/tuJf)

307 Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)

Yup.......seems like the liberal colored folks want a return to some form of segregation.

What's next a WFL? "White Football League"

Their new chant will soon be "Segregation now, segregation fore ebber!"

George Wallace was ahead of his time.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 11:36 AM (5VlCp)

Once upon a time in the long long ago (late 19th, early 20th century) there were thriving black communities in most major metro areas, and I assume most minor metro areas as well. But that was not acceptable to big city white players (i.e. usually Democrats), and they worked hard to have "progress" mean ripping out middle class neighborhoods and putting up high rise slums. Keep those people concentrated, in check, and where we can keep an eye on them.

Some day, if justice ever comes to this planet, the 20th century progressive movement will be seen for what it is: The single most destructive force this country has ever known.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)

308 274 I'm creaped by the idea of dead people being revived and walking around souless.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:25 AM (QQ+il)

You mean Democrats?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 11:45 AM (HYE3N)

309 Hey fappers.

Pansexuals. I guess they bone cookware.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 11:46 AM (0mRoj)

310 Does Baldilocks still comment here?

Infrequently. She was around a few days ago.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 20, 2017 11:37 AM (7oUUT)

Thanks. I enjoyed interacting with her, particularly when she tried to bring the ewok up to speed on racial matters.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2017 11:46 AM (y7DUB)

311 The problem with early 70s SF is that they were so focused on sex that sometimes really interesting ideas got lost in the kink. I think a lot of them fell into that -- the really good ones recovered, but for a while it got really boring.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2017 11:44 AM (MIKMs)
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See: John Varley (though that was the 80s).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:46 AM (QGoUX)

312 For those who haven't yet eliminated the NFL from their lives (and I heartily suggest you do), I can tell you there is an upside: it leaves more time for reading. Hey, this IS the book thread. This applies, in particular, to Super Bowl week.

Consumption of beer and tailgate fare can be done anytime. Don't be a slave (oops!) to the NFL owners and their discriminatory game schedules.

Posted by: JTB at August 20, 2017 11:47 AM (V+03K)

313 They are idiots. Black cops have been shot by the BLMers.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V

That female cop in NYC who was recently shot in her patrol car by a BLMer was black.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:47 AM (/qEW2)

314 They can do anything they want , but they have a better shot of persuading Lutherans to boycott Jello than they do of convincing blacks to boycott the NFL.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 11:47 AM (7uYFy)

315 Leftists haven't stopped at Confederate monuments, Joan of Arc, Frank Rizzo, and Abraham Lincoln have all gotten it.
I'm getting the feeling AntiFa doesn't want you to have anything nice.
Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 11:39 AM (pPKG5)
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Didn't some wag post a pic of a statue of Colonel Sanders being toppled?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:42 AM (QGoUX)

BOYCOTT CHURCHES CHICKEN FOR NOT BEING INCLUSIVE TO OTHER RELIGIONS!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:48 AM (Pz4pT)

316 10 Personally, I've always wondered why the British didn't intervene in the
CV on the side of the South. Seems to me they could've negotiated a
sweet, sweet deal on cotton exports that would've kept their textile
mills humming for a long time.

My understanding is that they were worried about the North invading Canada if they did and they already had their hands full in other places.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:11 AM (mpXpK)

*****

Morning all.
Some good points already made.
Add to it the development of the cotton industry in Egypt. By the 1860's the quality and quantity of Egyptian cotton was far greater than anything produced in the South. And it was cheaper.
Britian would have been no need for an alliance.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 11:49 AM (0tfLf)

317 You can't help but feel sorry for laugh out loud at the NFL, the way they shrugged off the 5% of so of the gate they were losing to "us" boycotting them for being left-wing assholes, and now getting boycotted In Case You Missed It by their own left-wing assholes for not being lefter-winger-assholer.

Karma.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:50 AM (/qEW2)

318
BOYCOTT CHURCHES CHICKEN FOR NOT BEING INCLUSIVE TO OTHER RELIGIONS!!!
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:48 AM (Pz4pT)
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Temple's Chicken becomes the victim of a schmier campaign for for not being open on Saturday.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:51 AM (QGoUX)

319 I'm creaped by the idea of dead people being revived and walking around souless.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2017 11:25 AM (QQ+il)

You mean Democrats?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 20, 2017 11:45 AM (HYE3N)

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:51 AM (Pz4pT)

320 For those who haven't yet eliminated the NFL from their lives (and I heartily suggest you do), I can tell you there is an upside: it leaves more time for reading. Hey, this IS the book thread. This applies, in particular, to Super Bowl week.

Also, it turns out that Super Bowl Sunday is a great day to go to that restaurant you like that's always too crowed to get into.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 20, 2017 11:54 AM (7oUUT)

321 On maps.
Bernie Mac had an all too short run show in which he would narrate to the viewers. In one episode he had a map of the house showing who controlled what.
Freakin' hilarious.
Gone way too soon.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 11:55 AM (0tfLf)

322 Let's add NFL to the LGBTWTFBBQ acronym...

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 11:56 AM (0mRoj)

323 317 You can't help but feel sorry for laugh out loud at the NFL, the way they shrugged off the 5% of so of the gate they were losing to "us" boycotting them for being left-wing assholes, and now getting boycotted In Case You Missed It by their own left-wing assholes for not being lefter-winger-assholer.

Karma.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:50 AM (/qEW2)

Yes, lets boycott a Game where most of the players are Black, and they make millions for playing a game...

Because... Racism....

/facepalm

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at August 20, 2017 11:56 AM (NgKpN)

324 i will have to wait for espns' take on this boycott.

thousands of mouthbreathing, drooling, imbeciles nod their heads in agreement. as they grind stale cheetos into the carpet.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 11:56 AM (KP5rU)

325 NO ONE is more well-versed on the intricacies of the game of football-- including all facets of offensive and defensive strategies--as well as the strengths and weaknesses of most of the major NFL draft picks and their possible impact on their respective teams-as well as the intricate labyrinthine financial structure of each NFL team and how that affects their recent ( and potential) signings vis a vis the salary cap than... the black guys I work with.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 11:57 AM (7uYFy)

326 You can't help but feel sorry for laugh out loud at the NFL, the way they shrugged off the 5% of so of the gate they were losing to "us" boycotting them for being left-wing assholes, and now getting boycotted In Case You Missed It by their own left-wing assholes for not being lefter-winger-assholer.
-------------------
Karma.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:50 AM (/qEW2)

Related: Angel Hernandez has filed a discrimination claim against MLB because he has not been given a Crew Chief job, or worked a World Series in more than 10 years.

This past week Ian Kinsler of the Tigers said unkind things about Angel's umpiring skills, saying flat out he thinks Angel should rethink his career choice.

Kinsler was fined a large sum of money by MLB, but not suspended. So umps are now wearing armbands, to protest the league's soft response to Kinsler, and standing up for the right of umpires to suck at their job, and get paid incredible amounts of money to do something most of the rest of us could do, and many of us have done.

Hooray unions! Social Justice Warriors and shitty mexican umpires, untie!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:57 AM (Pz4pT)

327 My opinion is, it started with the rule that you had to interview at least one black dude when you had a head coach opening.

The Rooney rule brought to you by the longtime owners of the Stoolers; big JEF supporters.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2017 11:57 AM (y7DUB)

328 I am in Boston and you would never know there was a person of color political candidate present at yesterday's 'so called free speech rally'-which is what they are calling it here. Nice pretzel logic.

That guy has balls -- no way will the local press let him get ANY exposure, positive press or traction, they are all in for Liz Warren and Antifa.

Posted by: Goldilocks at August 20, 2017 11:57 AM (zz1sH)

329 22 The best wordiest writer of alternate history by far is Harry Turtledove. And if you want a good Civil War take of his try Guns of the South.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 09:18 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Just John at August 20, 2017 11:58 AM (h3ovR)

330
Baldilocks latest...
Black Americans: The Organized Left's Expendable Shock Troops
http://baldilocks-talking.blogspot.com/2017/08/
black-americans-organized-lefts.html

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 20, 2017 11:58 AM (EgwCt)

331 BOYCOTT CHURCHES CHICKEN FOR NOT BEING INCLUSIVE TO OTHER RELIGIONS!!!
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:48 AM (Pz4pT)
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Temple's Chicken becomes the victim of a schmier campaign for for not being open on Saturday.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 11:51 AM (QGoUX)

I am mystified that Cracker Barrel is still allowed to exist.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:59 AM (Pz4pT)

332 baseball umps wearing armbands, does anybody give a shit? really? like football players wearing pink shoes. all bullshit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:00 PM (KP5rU)

333 They are idiots. Black cops have been shot by the BLMers.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V

That female cop in NYC who was recently shot in her patrol car by a BLMer was black.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 11:47 AM (/qEW2)

Many of the best collaborators in Western Euro nations during WWII would have had family members who were killed by the nazis.

Same with Russian commies all throughout that horrible reign.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 12:02 PM (Pz4pT)

334 332 baseball umps wearing armbands, does anybody give a shit? really? like football players wearing pink shoes. all bullshit.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:00 PM (KP5rU)

I've never been a big fan of pro sports but it was better when they'd just STFU and play the game.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:03 PM (0mRoj)

335 SJWs as NFL general managers? Imagine the kind of team you'd wind up with! But let's pick one franchise as a model. I recommend New England.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 12:04 PM (QlXV5)

336 I have had two nights of nightmarish dreams, the country dividing into such anger and crazy isn't healthy as we all know.
I wake up attempting to find an answer. and this Indian doctor is a great entrance , but will be ignord.
I know we don't have time to rally as the Left shock troops do, But we really do need to get the truth out there.
While I blame the citizenry for being taken in by Medias propaganda, If you are working a lot and all you Hear politically is there spin, than you Hit your facebook to see if you family has put up any cute pictures of the new members of the family and all you see are # tags telling You what those creepy alt right republican freaks are doing..

so how do we get a voice ?
Trump goes right to the people , but the media dessimates His words and intent..
what's the answer?

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 12:06 PM (FKrah)

337 their spin*

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 12:06 PM (FKrah)

338 This last week for Trump was much like the campaign.

He lost some support at the margins and the GOPe came railed against him. But his opponents lost more, especially on the trajectory they've put themselves on.

As Charles Barkley says: Who the hell cares about Confederate statues?

Meanwhile, we go into a risky week with the NORKs. If it goes hot it'll be this week in response to joint US-South Korea exercises.

And strong rumors that the DWS Iwan case will expose serious leaks and blackmail. Developing ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:06 PM (pV/54)

339 205 Speaking of Enzo Ferrari, a story that needs to be written, and probably also make a great movie: c.1960, Henry Ford Jr. almost bought Ferrari. Ford showed up in Italy w/a team of lawyers, and Enzo showed up with his accountant. They looked the contract over, and almost signed. Then they noticed Ferrari would have to relinquish their racing program to Ford. Enzo got up and said: "We're going to lunch." He never came back.
This set the stage for one of the most dramatic racing battles over the next 6 Le Mans.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:48 AM (ty7RM)

The 24 Hour War - documentary on Amazon Prime

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 20, 2017 12:07 PM (aIm//)

340 335 SJWs as NFL general managers? Imagine the kind of team you'd wind up with! But let's pick one franchise as a model. I recommend New England.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2017 12:04 PM (QlXV5)

Mandatory diversity hires for the starting lineup. Trannies, twinks, furries, midgets...

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:07 PM (0mRoj)

341 Shouldn't there be a 'C' and an 'R' in LGBTQQIP2SAA for Cripples and Retards?

I'm still looking for the 'P' in Pedo, and I'm feeling a little bit triggered! Are we not the welcoming party any more?

Posted by: Hairy Reed at August 20, 2017 12:08 PM (kuiuS)

342 Their new chant will soon be "Segregation now, segregation fore ebber!"

George Wallace was ahead of his time.
---

So, I'm going to just go out and say it.

People naturally segregate.

That's why there's "Chinatown," "Little Italy," "Mexicantown" and "Dearborn."

People like to be around other people like them. They eat the same foods, and like ethnic grocery stores and butchers and bakeries and restaurants. They go to the same churches and have some of the same interests.

IMHO, the only reason that many urban blacks move to white suburbs is because the Democrat run cities are sh*t holes and they are simply NOT SAFE there.

If black cities were as safe as the white suburbs, there would be no integration at all IMHO.

And that would not necessarily be bad. I can get along with Jamal, Achmed and Kim at work if they're not my neighbors. I have that ability. I think we all do.

Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 12:08 PM (aT+Bx)

343 337 their spin*
Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 12:06 PM (FKrah)

Where spin?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:08 PM (0mRoj)

344 SJWs as NFL general managers?

"Collaborative Touchdowns". There is only a total result as teams work together to score.

Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2017 12:09 PM (kuiuS)

345 119 ...I don't buy that "pansexual" is a thing.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (6FqZa)

20 years from now? You'll be one.
.
.
.
AND LIKING IT. (or else)

Posted by: Just John at August 20, 2017 12:10 PM (h3ovR)

346 178
So we have concluded that almost no one has a use for their Wisk, yes?

I'm really not gonna make meringue or whip cream ever.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

We use ours (available in several calibers here) for gravy and pudding.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 20, 2017 12:10 PM (di1hb)

347 344 SJWs as NFL general managers?

"Collaborative Touchdowns". There is only a total result as teams work together to score.
Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2017 12:09 PM (kuiuS)

Mandatory celebratory endzone beejers.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:10 PM (0mRoj)

348 Wasn't another reason that Britain chose not to intervene in our CW was that cotton production in Madras had taken off?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 20, 2017 12:10 PM (AFhGT)

349 i will watch the indy car race from pocono today, and the nhra. not an armband, pink shoe, or whiney assed fucktard will be seen. not even a kryle busch.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:11 PM (KP5rU)

350 Long ago I read a biography of Charles Francis Adams --- or was it his autobiography? I think it may have been that.
Adams (son of John Q, grandson of John) was Lincoln's ambassador to Britain and the story of his courting of the Brits to the Union side is fascinating.

At the outset the odds were against him. There were powerful economic interests lined up in the South's favor, not only because the South supplied the UK with so many raw materials, but because they resented the high import tariffs the North imposed to ward off competition in selling manufactured goods in the US.

Also, there were a lot of Brits who felt that the US was getting too powerful and uppity and that fracturing it would be a good thing. They, along with a lot of Southerners of course, liked to draw parallels between the secession of '61 and that of 1776. Karma!

And then there were the assorted Romantics who saw the South as more genteel than the bourgeois North.

In any case, the main thing Lincoln needed was for Adams to convince the Brits to stay neutral and, above all, not to break the Yankee blockades on Southern ports.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 12:11 PM (0jtPF)

351 spinnit good

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 12:11 PM (FKrah)

352 don't buy that "pansexual" is a thing.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (6FqZa)

I've always loved bread , but it's never been a sexual thing....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 12:12 PM (7uYFy)

353
Hey fappers.

Pansexuals. I guess they bone cookware.
Posted by: Insomniac

They bone china.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 12:12 PM (IqV8l)

354 339 205 Speaking of Enzo Ferrari, a story that needs to be written, and probably also make a great movie: c.1960, Henry Ford Jr. almost bought Ferrari. Ford showed up in Italy w/a team of lawyers, and Enzo showed up with his accountant. They looked the contract over, and almost signed. Then they noticed Ferrari would have to relinquish their racing program to Ford. Enzo got up and said: "We're going to lunch." He never came back.
This set the stage for one of the most dramatic racing battles over the next 6 Le Mans.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 20, 2017 10:48 AM (ty7RM)

The 24 Hour War - documentary on Amazon Prime
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death

Watched that a few weeks ago. Really enjoyed it.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 20, 2017 12:12 PM (di1hb)

355 345 119 ...I don't buy that "pansexual" is a thing.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 10:04 AM (6FqZa)

20 years from now? You'll be one.
.
.
.
AND LIKING IT. (or else)
Posted by: Just John at August 20, 2017 12:10 PM (h3ovR)

That Calphalon skillet looks so hot right now.
*gets nonstick spray*
BRB...

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:12 PM (0mRoj)

356 baseball umps wearing armbands, does anybody give a shit? really? like football players wearing pink shoes. all bullshit.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:00 PM (KP5rU)

Yup....time to get rid of human umpires and go robotic.

No more big fat guys calling balls strikes and strikes balls.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 12:13 PM (5VlCp)

357 353
Hey fappers.

Pansexuals. I guess they bone cookware.
Posted by: Insomniac

They bone china.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 12:12 PM (IqV8l)

I thought Japan boned China.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:13 PM (0mRoj)

358 No more big fat guys calling balls strikes and strikes balls.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 12:13 PM (5VlCp)

I actual like that most are fat . They look like throwbacks to the earlier era.....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 12:14 PM (7uYFy)

359 For those who haven't yet eliminated the NFL from their lives (and I heartily suggest you do), I can tell you there is an upside: it leaves more time for reading.

Posted by: JTB
________

Yeah, I quit following the league about 3 weeks into last season. I don't miss it at all.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 12:15 PM (zkGZ8)

360 Margarita - another good book about this is One War at a Time by Dean Mahin.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 20, 2017 12:15 PM (AFhGT)

361 165 Maybe pan sexuals like doing it with crockpots?
Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 10:30 AM (wPiJc)
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or crackpots?

Posted by: Just John at August 20, 2017 12:15 PM (h3ovR)

362 Britain may have been officially neutral but they did give material support to the Confederacy, yes? Ships and arms?

I'd think it was in their best interest to divide the country.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 12:16 PM (QGoUX)

363 Britain may have been officially neutral but they did give material support to the Confederacy, yes? Ships and arms?

I'd think it was in their best interest to divide the country.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 12:16 PM (QGoUX)

Gladstone was one of the greatest rogues of the 19th century. It's hard to find any redeeming qualities to the man.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 12:17 PM (Pz4pT)

364 i used to enjoy football, once. baseball too. all stick and ball "sports" are dead to me. they can go on strike forever. they won't be missed by me. at all. and spike lee can go eat a bag o dicks. no talent race hustler.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:17 PM (KP5rU)

365 I saw some article that basically said the "2 spirited" are people who think they are wolves or bears or dragons and (1) some want to have sex with cartoons, (2) want to have sex with wildlife wearing bow-ties, (3) would settle for someone pretending to be Yogi Bear, and/or (4) want non-human genitalia.

So, in a word, crazy.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at August 20, 2017 12:17 PM (c1VpD)

366 Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 12:06 PM
--

Willow, do you eat before bed? If yes, you might want to consider not doing so any more.

What you eat can impact your dreams. Cheese is a big one that makes my dreams really vivid.

Also... if you're online before bed, you might want to re-think that as well.

It sounds like you're having stress dreams related to your waking hours. Consider doing a crossword puzzle or reading a novel before you go to sleep. That might help as well.

Did you read the Scott Adams article on Mass Hysteria? It's a good one.

Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 12:17 PM (aT+Bx)

367 The "QQ" part in LGBTQQIP2SAA is when you cuff 'em and stuff 'em.

Posted by: Roscoe P. Coltraine at August 20, 2017 12:18 PM (zkGZ8)

368 I predict that the fact both sides are now pushing boycotting the NFL will be instructive.

Even with both sides in agreement, everything will go on as it has and TV ratings and ticket sales will be stable.

Most people on both sides pushing the boycott already don't watch. The remainder (and majority of fans) don't give a damn about boycotts.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 12:20 PM (3myMJ)

369 Did you read the Scott Adams article on Mass Hysteria? It's a good one.
Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 12:17 PM (aT+Bx)

Dogs and Cats: Living Together

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:21 PM (0mRoj)

370 Yup....time to get rid of human umpires and go robotic.

No more big fat guys calling balls strikes and strikes balls.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2017 12:13 PM (5VlCp)

An RFID and sensors would do fine for the strike/ball/foul, but you do need someone to keep an eye on human actions.

And that is what people are best at.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2017 12:21 PM (mkDpn)

371 >>So, I'm going to just go out and say it.

>>People naturally segregate.

>>That's why there's "Chinatown," "Little Italy," "Mexicantown" and "Dearborn."

It really isn't a radical concept nor should it even be controversial. Forget Chinatown, Little Italy ad Mexicantown, it's the reason there is a China, an Italy and a Mexico.

Countries were founded on the concept of people naturally segregating along cultural, economic and political consensus. It's only with the advent of mass migration and inserting people who don't share those goals that you get controversy.

But you are not allowed to point out the obvious any longer without being a Nazi.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

372 >>> SJWs as NFL general managers?

"'Collaborative Touchdowns'. There is only a total result as teams work together to score."

In corporate "team-building" exercises these days, your team gets marked down by the exercise referees if every single member of the team isn't carefully consulted and their opinion weighed.

So, since the team is likely to have the usual proportion of dimwits, ditherers, and dead wood, the overall performance of the team on the assigned tasks goes down. Often way down. But in a politically correct way!

Also, Gawd help you if you've got someone on that team who checks one or more preferential identity-politics boxes, and they are not elevated instantly by acclamation to team leader, with accompanying loud hosannas.

Doesn't matter if they are one of the aforementioned deadly Ds. Doesn't matter if they simply can't lead a team. You *damn well better* put them in that slot, and if you don't, then Big HR will remember you forever. Over what's basically a game with no actual business consequences.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 12:22 PM (ujwCG)

373 Hi Willow, you posted

"so how do we get a voice ?
Trump goes right to the people , but the media dessimates His words and intent..
what's the answer?"

I hear you! Steve Bannon is the beginning of the answer. He's gone back to Breitbart, and is going to fight for President Trump. I have hopes that this is the beginning of an alternative to the insane evil media.

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:23 PM (5O20Y)

374
(3) would settle for someone pretending to be Yogi Bear

That would be a boo boo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 12:23 PM (IqV8l)

375 But you are not allowed to point out the obvious any longer without being a Nazi.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

At least we get snappy uniforms.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:23 PM (0mRoj)

376 Gladstone was one of the greatest rogues of the 19th century. It's hard to find any redeeming qualities to the man.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 12:17 PM (Pz4pT)

He did make a decent bag . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2017 12:23 PM (mkDpn)

377
I hear you! Steve Bannon is the beginning of the
answer. He's gone back to Breitbart, and is going to fight for
President Trump. I have hopes that this is the beginning of an
alternative to the insane evil media.
Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:23 PM (5O20Y)

He may be planning a "right of Fox" network per some reports.

I would love to find some place that did actual reporting.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2017 12:24 PM (mkDpn)

378 >>At least we get snappy uniforms.

I got mine at birth. Blond, blue eyed German.

I am literally a Nazi even without the uniform.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 12:26 PM (/tuJf)

379 "I would love to find some place that did actual reporting."

I like to call it reportage.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 12:26 PM (3myMJ)

380 With the internet, you can build an alternative news network that doesn't need cable channels.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:26 PM (pV/54)

381 Even with both sides in agreement, everything will go on as it has and TV ratings and ticket sales will be stable.

Posted by: Meremortal
________

Fans will gradually realize that paying $185 for a shirt is not money well-spent.

The next step in that realization is when they note that burning jerseys because someone went to another team is money wasted.

Then, when their favorite team changes colors and they have to -- HAVE TO -- update their collections and figure it'll cost about 2 grand ...

Gotta hand it to the NFL for their business model, but it's not sustainable, long-term.

Posted by: Roscoe P. Coltraine at August 20, 2017 12:26 PM (zkGZ8)

382
I know we no longer nfl around here, but would it hurt for someone to throw a random cheerleader pic in a book or chess thread.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2017 12:27 PM (r+sAi)

383 Booknlass, i'm sure He will try . I hope for his success.

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 12:27 PM (FKrah)

384 /cotton-pickin sock

Posted by: FireHorse at August 20, 2017 12:27 PM (zkGZ8)

385 Kindltot, don't you agree that Breitbart does actual reporting?

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:27 PM (5O20Y)

386 As the son of an Italian immigrant who was a drummer boy for Mussolini at 10 and an American soldier at 19 I'm trying to figure out how I fit into the whole Nazi thing.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 12:28 PM (3myMJ)

387 'Where spin?
Posted by: Insomniac'

I've been reading "The Book of Were-Wolves" by Sabine Baring-Gould, [1865], at sacred-texts.com. It's about werewolf stories thru time up until mid-1800s. Kind of interesting and gory,

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2017 12:28 PM (P8ayj)

388 Guy, I would prefer some nice military guy pics, or how about firemen?

just sayin!

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 12:28 PM (FKrah)

389 I don't know why we are boycotting the NFL. Colin Kaepernick no longer has a job.

Seems we won that little skirmish. It's not always the loudest who win the day.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 12:28 PM (/tuJf)

390 Newt Gingrich wrote a novel about Gettysburg, in which the CSA prevailed by leaving the Union troops in their fish hook shaped redoubt while marching on to Washington DC and capturing it.
That was a few years ago, maybe 10.

Posted by: navybrat at August 20, 2017 12:29 PM (w7KSn)

391 you know who else wore armbands. they were quite fashionable.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:30 PM (KP5rU)

392 Well I'm going outside to play. Have a nice day all.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 12:30 PM (/tuJf)

393 Speaking of bullying umpires. I recall an incident when Ken Griffey and Ken Griffey, Jr briefly were playing on the same team. One of the umpires seemed to have a beef with Jr., was being a real jerk and called him out on a pitch way out of the zone. Jr. got really irate, and was right in the ump's face yelling, spittle flying. His dad stormed out of the dugout and bumped the umpire in the chest which caused him to fall to the ground. In the ensuing melee one of the Griffeys stumbled and sat down right on top of the umpire's belly. It wasn't clear from video footage which one of the Griffeys it was, but I suspect it was Griffey Sr, because as we all know, the son never sits on the brutish umpire.

Posted by: Obligatory at August 20, 2017 12:30 PM (wPiJc)

394 380 With the internet, you can build an alternative news network that doesn't need cable channels.
Posted by: Ignoramus

Right now, though, I think cable needs to be used as well because many people don't get their news from the 'net. They turn on the friggin TV at dinner time.

My brother is one of them. He's a conservative, and is angry at Fox for selling out. But he's still enough of a Luddite he won't get on the net for news. I'm sure there are at least a million like him.

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:31 PM (5O20Y)

395 391 you know who else wore armbands. they were quite fashionable.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:30 PM (KP5rU)

Muay Thai fighters.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 20, 2017 12:31 PM (0mRoj)

396 /sock

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 12:31 PM (wPiJc)

397 Posted by: Roscoe P. Coltraine at August 20, 2017 12:26 PM (zkGZ

Ah, but that's not boycotting. That's just a business running it's course and going the way of the buggy whip.

I wonder how long that will take.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 12:31 PM (3myMJ)

398
Gotta hand it to the NFL for their business model, but it's not sustainable, long-term.
Posted by: Roscoe P. Coltraine at August 20, 2017 12:26 PM

As long as there are suckers there will be suckees.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 12:31 PM (IqV8l)

399 I hear you! Steve Bannon is the beginning of the

answer. He's gone back to Breitbart, and is going to fight for

President Trump. I have hopes that this is the beginning of an

alternative to the insane evil media.
Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:23 PM (5O20Y)

He may be planning a "right of Fox" network per some reports.

I would love to find some place that did actual reporting.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2017 12:24 PM (mkDpn)

That would be fantastic.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:31 PM (FTXAT)

400 (3) would settle for someone pretending to be Yogi Bear

That would be a boo boo.

The ranger's not gonna like this...

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 20, 2017 12:32 PM (7oUUT)

401 So, in a word, crazy.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword

Actually, reading the wikipedia article, "two-spirit" is an umbrella term covering homosexuals and transvestites, although they try to make it out to be something more profound.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 12:32 PM (8x8kp)

402 Seems we won that little skirmish. It's not always the loudest who win the day.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 12:28 PM (/tuJf)

Marshawn (sp?) Lynch, Oakland Raiders. He doesn't kneel, he sits on his ass for the anthem. There are others too.

If Kaepernick could play, he'd be playing.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 12:33 PM (3myMJ)

403 In corporate "team-building" exercises these days, your team gets marked down by the exercise referees if every single member of the team isn't carefully consulted and their opinion weighed.

So, since the team is likely to have the usual proportion of dimwits, ditherers, and dead wood, the overall performance of the team on the assigned tasks goes down. Often way down. But in a politically correct way!

Also, Gawd help you if you've got someone on that team who checks one or more preferential identity-politics boxes, and they are not elevated instantly by acclamation to team leader, with accompanying loud hosannas.

Doesn't matter if they are one of the aforementioned deadly Ds. Doesn't matter if they simply can't lead a team. You *damn well better* put them in that slot, and if you don't, then Big HR will remember you forever. Over what's basically a game with no actual business consequences.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 12:22 PM (ujwCG)

One of the great lessons of the universe: Teams make bad decisions, and if you want to get something done, the best way to do it is to have individuals making individual decisions, and then have conflict to resolve the differences between parties. Conflict. Not cooperation.

Which is why government at its best is a necessary evil.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 12:33 PM (Pz4pT)

404
As the son of an Italian immigrant who was a drummer boy for Mussolini
at 10 and an American soldier at 19 I'm trying to figure out how I fit
into the whole Nazi thing.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 12:28 PM (3myMJ)

We are all Nazis now.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:34 PM (FTXAT)

405 As the son of an Italian immigrant who was a drummer boy for Mussolini
at 10 and an American soldier at 19 I'm trying to figure out how I fit
into the whole Nazi thing.
--

Do others identify you as "white?"

If yes, you're a Nazi.

Which means I'm a Nazi.

Even though my ancestors-- women and children-- were herded into a church in Poland and murdered by the S.S.

But... "white."

Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 12:34 PM (aT+Bx)

406 342 . I can get along with my Black neighbors because we all have a common goal which is maintaining a nice community. My brother's doctor is a woman of color who is professional and compassionate and the only one who has acknowledged me - his caregiver. I can get along with my family members who are POC because I love them. I'm getting an us v. them vibe from some of these comments. It's not about skin tone; it's about ideology.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 12:34 PM (7l5V0)

407 402: it aint easy being a lazy assed thug. you have to be committed.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 20, 2017 12:34 PM (KP5rU)

408 We are all Nazis now.
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:34 PM (FTXAT)

An elegant solution!

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 12:35 PM (3myMJ)

409 because as we all know, the son never sits on the brutish umpire.
Posted by: Obligatory at August 20, 2017 12:30 PM (wPiJc)

You'll be spending some unspecified amount of time in purgatory for that.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 12:35 PM (Pz4pT)

410
Marshawn (sp?) Lynch, Oakland Raiders. He doesn't kneel, he sits on his ass for the anthem.

While eating a banana.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2017 12:35 PM (IqV8l)

411 sorry I missed the thread this morning

KTY's bday today, busy buay

love the library painting, Oregon

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at August 20, 2017 12:36 PM (hMwEB)

412 the communists and socialists are by definition Nazis.

classic 'pot calling the kettle.'

they're just too mal-informed to know it.

Soros must be defeated.

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:36 PM (5O20Y)

413 326---Hooray unions! Social Justice Warriors and shitty mexican umpires, untie!
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:57 AM (Pz4pT)
-------------------------------
I dunno, but this is baseball and the odds of him being Mexican are very low. Hardly impossible, mind you, but very low.
P Rican or some other Caribbean origin, I would guess.

"Shitty," OTOH, is positively confirmed by strict scientific analysis!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 12:37 PM (0jtPF)

414 ...because as we all know, the son never sits on the brutish umpire.

Ah ha! You've finally outted yourself. Muldoon is Stephen Pastis.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 20, 2017 12:37 PM (7oUUT)

415 I don't know why we are boycotting the NFL. Colin Kaepernick no longer has a job.

Seems we won that little skirmish. It's not always the loudest who win the day.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 20, 2017 12:28 PM (/tuJf)

Boycotting? No. Don't care to have anything to do with them anymore.

For those of you who are watching this year, let the rest of us know how many players are sitting on their arses during the National Anthem, then we will see who's winning.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 12:38 PM (Pz4pT)

416 "Steve Bannon is the beginning of the answer."

The thing which I find unnerving about Bannon's departure is that unsolicited interview out of the blue with, of all possible press vehicles, _The American Prospect_.

Kelly as WH CoS had made it crystal clear that there had to be an end to back-channel, unapproved, informal policy discussions. Everything had to be squared away, by the numbers, on time and schedule, via the official mouthpieces, only. Bannon broke every one of those rules in one sweeping move.

What Bannon *very* prominently said was that there isn't a conventional military solution to the North Korean problem, at least not one that doesn't get a huge number of South Korean civilians killed in the first few days of the war. (n.b., Bannon is a former military officer.) I tend to side with this thinking.

As I read the tea leaves, that implies there is a faction within the administration (or worse than a faction, it's Trump's own opinion) that conventional military CONOPs against Whoa Fat's regime are a realistic policy choice.

And, since Bannon lost the internal debate over that, he felt the need to at least send a smoke signal of warning that this might be being actively considered.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 12:39 PM (ujwCG)

417
classic 'pot calling the kettle.'
--

Psychological projection.

Posted by: shibumi at August 20, 2017 12:40 PM (aT+Bx)

418
You'll be spending some unspecified amount of time in purgatory for that.

Posted by: BurtTC

******

Posted by: Muldoon at August 20, 2017 12:40 PM (wPiJc)

419

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 12:41 PM (QGoUX)

420 I had an interesting find this week. I was going through one of the umpteen boxes of mostly fiction that I boxed up back in 1984 when I got married and my wife and I merged households. Excess stuff was stored "temporarily" (30+ years) in my parents' basement.

Grabbed an old, beat-up copy of The Circular Staircase by Mary Roberts Rinehart. Tipped into the front and back endpapers was (were?) a signature made up of small (about 8 to a page) advertisements for various establishments (restaurants, clothing, garages, etc) in and around Tacoma. Then there were several individual pages between chapters. Sort of like book commercials. Altogether maybe 250 to 300 different businesses. The book was copyright 1908, but the only business I know of that advertised was started in 1932.

There's no markings on or inside the book as to where it came from. I'm assuming a rental or free lending library and the identifying material was on the now missing jacket.

This is the second Rinehart book that I've read. the other (The Yellow Room) follows the same plot as this. Well-off single woman and part of expented family rent a summer house in a small community where strange things happen. The mystery is solved mostly by a character who isn't who or what we are led to think he is. Case closed.

Posted by: Just John at August 20, 2017 12:41 PM (h3ovR)

421 There was a distinct rightward slant to this thread...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 12:41 PM (QGoUX)

422 393---Posted by: Obligatory at August 20, 2017 12:30 PM (wPiJc)
-------------------------------

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 12:41 PM (0jtPF)

423 We leaning?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 20, 2017 12:42 PM (56iwG)

424 I read an 'oldie' that I was impressed with: The Long Tomorrow by Leigh Brackett (of Pulps and Screenplay fame).

The world is a post apoc setting where the Menonites have take over, politically. (no power or technology, they were the ones who could adapt best. Makes sense) By law, no town can have more than 1000 people or 200 buildings.

Into this world are two very different farm boys who conceive of a desire to visit the fabled 'Bartortown' where remnants of the old technology and science were kept alive.

It is extremely well written and if there's an element of 'be careful what you wish for' in it, it's not Twilight Zone heavy-handed. She didn't stick the ending, for me. But I highly recommend it. Only 200 pages or so, so more of a novella than full novel.

The book also gave me one of those eerie sensations as I found similarities between the setting and characters and one of my unpublished novels. It always freaks me out when that happens.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 12:42 PM (3OIiX)

425 I can get along with my Black neighbors because we
all have a common goal which is maintaining a nice community. My
brother's doctor is a woman of color who is professional and
compassionate and the only one who has acknowledged me - his caregiver. I
can get along with my family members who are POC because I love them.
I'm getting an us v. them vibe from some of these comments. It's not
about skin tone; it's about ideology.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 12:34 PM (7l5V0)

Kallisto... we did not start this us vs them shit and nor would I expect Morons and Ette's to be anything but civil to those who are willing to be civil to them. We are not going to apologize and grovel, however, because our conservative beliefs labels us whites with privilege (no matter what our actual skin color is).

As Andrew Breitbart said to those who would throw away Western Civilization and its adherents: Fuck You. War.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:42 PM (FTXAT)

426 He's a conservative, and is angry at Fox for selling out. But he's still enough of a Luddite he won't get on the net for news. I'm sure there are at least a million like him.

Posted by: booknlass

Unfortunate, but at least he's mentally inoculated against liberalism - that's the main thing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 12:43 PM (/qEW2)

427 knew both my husband and I loved maps. Of course, much of it is obsolete now.
Posted by: bluebell

Remember the great cities of Bombay and Peking?

"Farewell, Rhodesia! Hello, Zimbabwe!"

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/
2016/06/the_rhodesia_syndrome.html

Posted by: Times past at August 20, 2017 12:44 PM (Mt8T4)

428 Bannon also made the point that we're in an economic fight to the death with China that will play out over 20 years. Two hegemons walk in; only one walks out.

The NORKs play into this, as the Chinese use them to destabilize the region to China's advantage.

Is the price of peace that we don't go hard on the Chinese over trade matters?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:45 PM (pV/54)

429 Booknlass, Brietbart does reporting. But they focus on "what does it mean" like everyone else.

I'd love a "this is what happened" first and "what it means" second.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2017 12:46 PM (mkDpn)

430 Also, want to visit that library in Prague.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 12:46 PM (3OIiX)

431 425 so just don't accept those meaningless buzzword labels. I reject them out of hand.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 12:47 PM (7l5V0)

432 425 so just don't accept those meaningless buzzword labels. I reject them out of hand.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 12:47 PM (7l5V0)

I don't but nor will I sit silently by while our culture and country is destroyed.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:49 PM (FTXAT)

433 the interview Bannon gave, IMO, was the head feint for the idiot fake media, who are saying he was fired.

That sets Bannon up with more sympathy to people like the GOP and Never Trumpers, no?

I still believe in President Trump. I don't feel completely easy about the jackals that surround him.

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:49 PM (5O20Y)

434 17 books in his Joe Pickett series and he hasn't yet degenerated to 'My fans will buy anything I write' attitude of many authors.

Posted by: JackS at August 20, 2017 09:17 AM (DknNB)

Guess I'll have to try again based on your recommendation, I just couldn't get into the characters first time out!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 12:50 PM (gwPgz)

435 Vichy Paul Ryan will host a CNN Town Hall tomorrow night with Jake Tapper.

You see, he's the Reasonable Republican, and the man for the future.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:50 PM (pV/54)

436 As I read the tea leaves, that implies there is a faction within the administration (or worse than a faction, it's Trump's own opinion) that conventional military CONOPs against Whoa Fat's regime are a realistic policy choice.

And, since Bannon lost the internal debate over that, he felt the need to at least send a smoke signal of warning that this might be being actively considered.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 12:39 PM (ujwCG)

I agree with you but I don't think Trump is going to make a move unless Whoa Fat does something really stupid--even if it's just shooting a missile in the general DIRECTION of Guam or something. One thing that we all know is that Trump is not Obama with his moving "red lines." If Whoa Fat makes a move, there WILL be a retaliation and it will be yuuuge....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 12:50 PM (7uYFy)

437 Vichy Paul Ryan will host a CNN Town Hall tomorrow night with Jake Tapper.

You see, he's the Reasonable Republican, and the man for the future.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:50 PM (pV/54)

Fuck that guy in particular...

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:52 PM (FTXAT)

438 @Just John

I picked up a Rinehart from half price books for a buck. Very much a 20th century gothic romance but not bad.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 12:52 PM (3OIiX)

439 What's the right response if Fat Boy Little Man shoots missiles in the general direction of Guam, but clearly not at Guam.

I say, sink a sub or two.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:52 PM (pV/54)

440 Ah, crap. Sorry 'bout that. Note to self: never hit post and then go take a shower w/o reloading and proofing.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 20, 2017 12:53 PM (7oUUT)

441 428
Is the price of peace that we don't go hard on the Chinese over trade matters?
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:45 PM (pV/54)
-----------------------
No.
I'd call the Fatso's bluff before I would let his threats influence China policy.

If, God forbid, he nukes a US city, we retaliate and reduce his country to glass. But in the meantime we can't be held hostage.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 12:53 PM (0jtPF)

442 One thing is Kelly and McMasters are establishment military guys. So is Mattis, for all his colorful language. And we've never retaliated against North Korea. So if we hit back at the Norks, it's got to be coming from Trump, right?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 12:53 PM (7uYFy)

443 I agree with you but I don't think Trump is going to
make a move unless Whoa Fat does something really stupid--even if it's
just shooting a missile in the general DIRECTION of Guam or something.
One thing that we all know is that Trump is not Obama with his moving
"red lines." If Whoa Fat makes a move, there WILL be a retaliation and
it will be yuuuge....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 12:50 PM (7uYFy)

I think Whoa Fat, as crazy as he is, clued in to the fact that the new sheriff in town means what he says.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:54 PM (FTXAT)

444 Sorry to be off topic but can someone tell me where to send an artwork for the art thread?

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 20, 2017 12:54 PM (yTnCT)

445 Cartwright boys: "We're going to name this ranch 'focus'".

Lorne Greene: "Why?"

Cartwright boys: "Because it's the place where the sons raise meat".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 12:55 PM (/qEW2)

446 I
can get along with my family members who are POC because I love them.
I'm getting an us v. them vibe from some of these comments. It's not
about skin tone; it's about ideology.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 12:34 PM (7l5V0)

You are correct about the ideology part.

Unfortunately such a high percentage of PoC types, especially in a certain group, are all in with Get Whitey. So to some extent it is us vs. them.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 20, 2017 12:55 PM (/B6Hn)

447 "With the internet, you can build an alternative news network that doesn't need cable channels.

Posted by ignoramus

True ... and I can get at least 3 PBS stations over the air, and some slots have Christian broadcasting, some have nothing on much of the time. I can't see why a startup by Bannon (or whomever) couldn't attain some over the air space for the 65+ million "deplorables", especially now that over the air is digital.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2017 12:57 PM (veVl1)

448 I think Whoa Fat, as crazy as he is, clued in to the fact that the new sheriff in town means what he says.
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:54 PM (FTXAT)

I agree, but unless I'm living in a fantasy world, I honestly thought Trump's "Fire and Fury" rant was designed to make Whoa Fat want to make a rash and hasty military strike---that would then trigger the Chinese--through one of Whoa Fat's generals--take him out once and for all.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 12:57 PM (7uYFy)

449 So how many virgins get sacrificed tomorrow?

How many people go blind?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:57 PM (pV/54)

450
You are correct about the ideology part.

Unfortunately such a high percentage of PoC types, especially in a
certain group, are all in with Get Whitey. So to some extent it is us
vs. them.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 20, 2017 12:55 PM (/B6Hn)

Since none of us are translucent... are we not all people of color? And who the heck comes up with these titles?

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:58 PM (FTXAT)

451 more on topic, out of respect for the beloved Book Thread

Maps are exciting and important in my life. I have an expensively matted and framed WWII-era map of France hanging here in my main room, which I fantasize, since I bought it at an auction house, went with a soldier to war. I bought it folded, and had it framed. My ex-husband was so pissed about spending 300 to frame a 2 dollar map.

Also, I had a poster of 'Mother Goose Land' in my playroom when I was younger than 6 that fascinated me for all time with maps. I read them like books.

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 12:59 PM (5O20Y)

452 I would love to find some place that did actual reporting.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 20, 2017 12:24 PM (mkDpn)

You mean a place where intelligent people research events and try to document the things that initiated or influenced their outcome, and then documents them in a rational fashion in some publicly accessible forum?

Nah, that's way too hard, too complex, and really sounds like crazy talk!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:00 PM (gwPgz)

453 I agree, but unless I'm living in a fantasy world, I
honestly thought Trump's "Fire and Fury" rant was designed to make
Whoa Fat want to make a rash and hasty military strike---that would
then trigger the Chinese--through one of Whoa Fat's generals--take him
out once and for all.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 12:57 PM (7uYFy)

The problem with taking him out... do we know if who would take his place is any less crazy?

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:00 PM (FTXAT)

454 Since none of us are translucent... are we not all people of color? And who the heck comes up with these titles?
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:58 PM (FTXAT)

Yes we are, but it's just a way for the scum to exclude whitey.

Posted by: Country Boy at August 20, 2017 01:01 PM (/B6Hn)

455 If you pencil out numbers on a new Bannon-led media outlet it should be a money-maker, which is key to making it a success. And Bannon was once an investment banker to the media industry, so will now how to sell this as an investment.

It'd draw from what has been FoxNews, and have much lower operational costs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 01:02 PM (pV/54)

456 White is a combination of all of the colors, ergo, white supremacy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 20, 2017 01:02 PM (c8EhQ)

457 The problem with taking him out... do we know if who would take his place is any less crazy?
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:00 PM (FTXAT)

True, but how "crazy" would they have to be to act crazy after seeing what happened to Whoa Fat?
Even Khadafi wised up after he saw Saddam's fate...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 01:02 PM (7uYFy)

458 Bannon's little riff on the Korean situation (the military part) was actually quite off, and since he presumably has been reading the briefings, that's odd. He greatly exaggerated the scale of the Norks' ready retaliatory capability - but in a way one hears from those who haven't actually looked at the details.

I think he gave the interview after he had given his 2-week notice/agreed to 2 weeks more - whatever actually happened - so I don't know how to read that in terms of Kelly's directives on the topic, either.

I am mostly uninterested in Bannon's move, or any other personnel drama, and completely uninterested so long as *policy* direction remains in line with Trump's major commitments. Which remains the case so far, I think. Trump's core policy positions and instincts, quite obviously, owe little to nothing to any rotating cast of advisors.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 20, 2017 01:03 PM (cJDvr)

459 Sigh.....

Sunday morning and I miss elbows.

Guess I'll go clean my derringers.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:03 PM (0tfLf)

460 With the internet, you can build an alternative news network that doesn't need cable channels.

Posted by ignoramus

Just so long as you don't utter a word that can be construed by the SJW Masters of the Webiverse as being listed in today's edition of the Hate Speech Crimes list!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:03 PM (gwPgz)

461 >>>Since none of us are translucent... are we not all people of color?

*Ahem*

Posted by: That monk froom the DaVinci code at August 20, 2017 01:03 PM (/qEW2)

462 Hah. Let Connie Willis be consumed by the fire she fanned.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2017 01:04 PM (oVJmc)

463 So I guess Kamala Harris is going to be "knocking on doors in Iowa" according to a top Dem.

Isn't she a little to old to be selling Girl Scout cookies?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 01:04 PM (7uYFy)

464 449 So how many virgins get sacrificed tomorrow?

How many people go blind?
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 12:57 PM (pV/54)
---
Whew! I'm already legally blind. And, uh...

I looked for eclipse glasses today and Sprawl-Mart and my local drug store were fresh out. Maybe somebody will lend me theirs tomorrow at work. I want to see the dragon swallow the sun!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 01:04 PM (QGoUX)

465 White is a combination of all of the colors, ergo, white supremacy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 20, 2017 01:02 PM (c8EhQ)

So we are oppressive even on the color wheel:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:04 PM (FTXAT)

466 Trump flies to Phoenix to put out a hit on Flake and McCain.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 01:05 PM (pV/54)

467 Posted by: Obligatory at August 20, 2017 12:30 PM (wPiJc)

Truly awful, great job.

Posted by: waelse1 at August 20, 2017 01:05 PM (+7KtG)

468 Trump flies to Phoenix to put out a hit on Flake and McCain.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 01:05 PM (pV/54)

Something about this trip fills me with dread.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 01:06 PM (7uYFy)

469 I don't but nor will I sit silently by while our culture and country is destroyed.
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:49 PM (FTXAT)

I hear that a lot but what does it mean, action-wise?

Because I could say the same thing but the truth is I've done nothing so far, and I'm only speaking for myself. (I don't count my commenting on conservative sites as doing something.)

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 01:06 PM (3myMJ)

470 Fuck that guy in particular...

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 12:52 PM (FTXAT)

My assessment of Lyin' Ryan was confirmed when severely conservative Mittens pick him as the VP nominee. Talk about all the pieces of the puzzle coming together and fitting perfrctly!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:06 PM (gwPgz)

471 The problem with taking him out... do we know if who would take his place is any less crazy?

Posted by: redbanzai

But he believes he is some kind of god. I think any general who took over from him would be more pragmatic/realistic.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 01:07 PM (/qEW2)

472 So I guess Kamala Harris is going to be "knocking on doors in Iowa" according to a top Dem.

Isn't she a little to old to be selling Girl Scout cookies?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 01:04 PM (7uYFy)

I would imagine they will be too polite to just slam the door in her racist face.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:07 PM (FTXAT)

473 You know, it would be forward-looking for Bannon to do as illiniwek said and start a new free channel. most of us are 'cutting the cable' or can't afford it, so we're buying the digital antennas.

By most of us, I mean the deplorables, the irredeemed. Those of us in the Rust belt. the forgotten men. and women.

The heart of America!

Posted by: booknlass at August 20, 2017 01:07 PM (5O20Y)

474 432. I guess I should clarify: the Us v. Them dynamic I recognize is Freedom (or constitutionalist) v. Totalitarian/communist. I did not advocate remaining silent while our culture is destroyed. (I'm a big 1A supporter, even have the t-shirt.) I just don't want to see us getting swept up in the NWO created hysteria that is resulting in hate crimes, mainly against those on our side.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 01:07 PM (7l5V0)

475 Trump flies to Phoenix to put out a hit on Flake and McCain.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 01:05 PM (pV/54)

Something about this trip fills me with dread.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 01:06 PM (7uYFy)

I mean this sincerely and not in any dismissive or sarcastic way. This is a good time for those among us that pray to include President Trump in our prayers every single day!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:09 PM (gwPgz)

476 Being for "people of color" is just a polite way of being anti-white.

There is no common interest among these POCs. The only solidarity they can muster is hating whitey. Period.

Truth be told, if whitey disappeared, the POCs would be at each other's throats in a matter of seconds.

And I can tell you who would quickly end up at the bottom of the heap --- the ones whose push for power relies entirely on white guilt.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 01:09 PM (0jtPF)

477
So I guess Kamala Harris is going to be "knocking on doors in Iowa" according to a top Dem.

yeah, that California Totalitarianism will sell well in Trump-won Iowa

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:09 PM (qAKlO)

478
Totalifornia?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:10 PM (qAKlO)

479 White is a color.
So is tan-in-the-summer-after-burning-red-at-least-once.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:10 PM (3OIiX)

480 Ignoramus, rumor is that Trump will be endorsing a Flake challenger at the Phoenix rally. That had better be true. Because it is already confirmed, what most of us had expected, that Trump's main obstacle is within the GOP. And Flake is a perfect, particularly odious, example.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 20, 2017 01:10 PM (cJDvr)

481 Brattleboro is proud to state we do not supports Trump nor will we comply with his illegal laws We ahte Trump and want our Black Presdent back and that way the world will love us again !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at August 20, 2017 01:11 PM (WmgTn)

482 472 So I guess Kamala Harris is going to be "knocking on doors in Iowa" according to a top Dem.

Isn't she a little to old to be selling Girl Scout cookies?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 20, 2017 01:04 PM (7uYFy)

I would imagine they will be too polite to just slam the door in her racist face.
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:07 PM (FTXAT)

She should wear the uniform. Show a little leg, give the farm boys a thrill.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:11 PM (3OIiX)

483 Where are all the COBs today? After 4 hours a non-book book thread is a little stale.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 01:11 PM (mpXpK)

484 Regarding the importance of prayer, I have a story:

An old guy dies and shows up at the Pearly Gates. St. Peter asks his name and he gives it. St. Peter looks into the big book and says "Oh here is the name. Until now, we never knew what you sounded like."

I want Heaven to recognize my voice when I need admittance. Prayer is a way for the Good Lord to know that at least you are trying.

Posted by: JAS at August 20, 2017 01:11 PM (UnDQI)

485 I hear that a lot but what does it mean, action-wise?

Because I could say the same thing but the truth is I've done
nothing so far, and I'm only speaking for myself. (I don't count my
commenting on conservative sites as doing something.)

Posted by: Meremortal at August 20, 2017 01:06 PM (3myMJ)

I volunteer for actual conservatives like Fred Thompson and Dave Brat when the pop on to the political scene. I rally with the local Tea Party. Last year, I stopped giving my money to people who hate me (starting with Amazon). And, probably most important, I don't let liberals get away unchallenged in personal conversation. I know a lot of conservatives do because it is easier or even safer but I just don't have it in me to let that shit go.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:12 PM (FTXAT)

486 459 Sigh.....

Sunday morning and I miss elbows.

Guess I'll go clean my derringers.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:03 PM (0tfLf)

We need to start copying the Chive. At least one day a week.

Do it for the elbows!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:12 PM (3OIiX)

487 Trump and Flake have had "words".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 01:12 PM (mpXpK)

488 "rumor is that Trump will be endorsing a Flake challenger at the Phoenix rally."

And McCain will be dead in a year.

Gasoline on the fire? Pardon Sheriff Joe!

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 01:14 PM (pV/54)

489 470---My assessment of Lyin' Ryan was confirmed when severely conservative Mittens pick him as the VP nominee. Talk about all the pieces of the puzzle coming together and fitting perfrctly!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:06 PM (gwPgz)
-------------------------
Heh.
I thought at the time he was trying to balance the ticket with a conservative, in the same spirit as Reagan choosing a squish.

(What can I do but laugh?)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 01:14 PM (0jtPF)

490
That online petition to correctly label anitfa as a terrorist organization is gathering signatures quickly and steadily.

Does anyone know anything about the org/website behind it?

I want to be 99.99% certain that it's legit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:14 PM (qAKlO)

491 I guess I should clarify: the Us v. Them dynamic I
recognize is Freedom (or constitutionalist) v. Totalitarian/communist. I
did not advocate remaining silent while our culture is destroyed. (I'm a
big 1A supporter, even have the t-shirt.) I just don't want to see us
getting swept up in the NWO created hysteria that is resulting in hate
crimes, mainly against those on our side.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 01:07 PM (7l5V0)

Oh for the Lord's sake... how about you start with not buying the liberal narrative that we are a bunch of Neanderthals who must be constantly reminded not to lash out.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:14 PM (FTXAT)

492 I just don't want to see us getting swept up in the NWO created hysteria that is resulting in hate crimes, mainly against those on our side.

Posted by: kallisto

Why are you even worried about that? It happens about as frequently as the anti-Muslim backlash, unless you count the hoaxes.

Haven't you noticed? The violence only seems to go one way.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 01:14 PM (/qEW2)

493
"rumor is that Trump will be endorsing a Flake challenger at the Phoenix rally."

***

And McCain will be dead in a year.

These two 'ments just added a little kick to my day.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:16 PM (qAKlO)

494
And we thought Jon Kyl was a piece of feces.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:16 PM (qAKlO)

495 Aw, Soothie...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 01:17 PM (QGoUX)

496 475- I do pray for him every day, may even start fasting. There used to be a website- Presidential Prayer Team. Don't know if it's still live.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 01:17 PM (7l5V0)

497
I'm still holding a grudge on "our side" for turning their backs on JD Hayworth because he was "too controversial" and a 'sure loser' in the general.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:17 PM (qAKlO)

498 Speaking of books, I've now finished one more book into the Aubrey Maturin series and only have eight and a half to go (reading "Nutmeg of Consolation" now). I'm really glad I decided to read only hard copies not digital. Even if this tale is only a rather opaque fictional window into that time in history, it is still incredibly well done and awe inspiring how HM Navy and the Empire spanned the globe without GPS, iPhones, or computers, but instead relied on the wind, the currents and tides, discipline and individual actions.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:17 PM (gwPgz)

499 Reductionist, simple explanations are rarely (though not *never*) correct, but it's hard to shake the feeling that race-baiting, racism, and race-hysteria are not the primary "strategy" that the Dems now see open to them. The lack of black super-turnout for Hillary (predicted by many here) was one of the elements in her defeat (PA? MI?).

This does not mean that there is some all-encompassing coordinated conspiracy to spark and fan the flames of racial tension for elector purposes - doesn't need to be. The Dems tactical approach parallels, naturally, the racist, race-baiting mindset of major media, pop culture, academia.

Anyway, many have opined that the Dems will not have a white male prez nominee again any time soon, for this reason. Harris of course checks two boxes, being a she. Her natural political appeal in the Trump swing states, however, would appear non-existent.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 20, 2017 01:17 PM (cJDvr)

500 I just don't want to see us getting swept up in the NWO created hysteria that is resulting in hate crimes, mainly against those on our side.

Posted by: kallisto

Be explicit: what is the "us vs. them" vibe you are getting that goes beyond frustration at the Dems and BLM. What makes you fear that there will be 'hate crimes' that actually go the other way?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 01:18 PM (/qEW2)

501 LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

Are they sure that covers everything? What about the pedos? I'm sure they'll be championing that next

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2017 01:18 PM (auHtY)

502 Cartwright boys: "We're going to name this ranch 'focus'".

Lorne Greene: "Why?"

Cartwright boys: "Because it's the place where the sons raise meat".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 20, 2017 12:55 PM (/qEW2)

Congrats and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Puns...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:18 PM (3OIiX)

503 The Chive?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:18 PM (0tfLf)

504 >>> Trump flies to Phoenix to put out a hit on Flake and McCain.

"Something about this trip fills me with dread."

I was all for Trump endorsing a primary challenger to Flake, but the problem is that, post-Charlottesville, anyone whom Trump endorses is instantly going to have a colossal avalanche of VICIOUS RACIST NAZI NEOCONFEDERATE MONSTER dropped on their head.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 01:19 PM (ujwCG)

505 Fox News guy was just on, bitching that they could not get anyone from the Whitehouse to come and talk to them about Bannon...

So, they are finally getting some discipline... but of course now the media is saying they are 'isolated' and in 'retreat'...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 20, 2017 01:19 PM (NgKpN)

506
ODonnell
Hayworth
Miller
Whatshisname in Colorado, Buck??
Sharron Angle
Akin

All these people were 1000X better than the Unstable & Incompetent Republican phony alternative.

But "our side" is full of shitheads with their stupid phony principles.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:19 PM (qAKlO)

507 Posted by: JAS at August 20, 2017 01:11 PM (UnDQI)

Thanks for that. My SiL will love it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:20 PM (gwPgz)

508 That would make one hell of a man cave.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2017 01:20 PM (aMlLZ)

509
Aw, Soothie...

'ments

'ments

'ments

'ments

'ments

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:21 PM (qAKlO)

510 501 LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

Why don't they just shorten it to "Democrat?"

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 20, 2017 01:21 PM (398bZ)

511 Newsmax showed up on my Dish channels for a while ... and Beck was like $5/mo but went too whacko, though buck Sexton was on there and still good.

Yeah, Bannon should know how to do a start up, and put some talent together. I'd like to see someone like Sharyl Attkisson as an anchor type, but she'd have to accept payment largely in shares I suppose. Then he could have a military segment, with guests from the ranks of all the good folks run out of town by Obama. And there'd be a book review hour like C-Span does, but with OregonMuse hosting.

oh, and a pet show, gardening show ... ha

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2017 01:21 PM (veVl1)

512 Ve vould like to ask you a few questions...

Posted by: Der Google at August 20, 2017 01:21 PM (Ndje9)

513 Trump, in a tweet, called Flake "toxic". !!!! Hilarious, and welcome, even if an odd adjective to use for his purpose.

Just one reason I love me some Trump direct communication (tweeting), and marvel at the incomprehensible "discomfort" of so many over his direct communication.

Anyway, barring Black Swan external events, Trump reshaping the GOP enough to enact some of his key policies is really the only thing that matters now.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 20, 2017 01:22 PM (cJDvr)

514 382
I know we no longer nfl around here, but would it hurt for someone to throw a random cheerleader pic in a book or chess thread.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2017 12:27 PM (r+sAi)

There's an idea. Maybe a future chess/dress thread can feature cheerleader outfits.

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2017 01:22 PM (sdi6R)

515 I was all for Trump endorsing a primary challenger
to Flake, but the problem is that, post-Charlottesville, anyone whom
Trump endorses is instantly going to have a colossal avalanche of
VICIOUS RACIST NAZI NEOCONFEDERATE MONSTER dropped on their head.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 01:19 PM (ujwCG)

They will also have all of Trump's supporters and everyone who is tired of the perfidious RINOS calling their own constituents nativist, racist losers at their back.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:23 PM (FTXAT)

516 I know we no longer nfl around here, but would it hurt for someone to throw a random cheerleader pic in a book or chess thread.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2017 12:27 PM (r+sAi)

There's an idea. Maybe a future chess/dress thread can feature cheerleader outfits.
Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2017 01:22 PM (sdi6R)

Seconded!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:23 PM (3OIiX)

517 Ohhhh....That Chive.

Got it.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:24 PM (0tfLf)

518
Okechobee Mud Fest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9DAMtqz_pY

Looks like fun. Well, not really. I kinda don't like getting dirty, especially when it's hot out.

But all the girls are wearing thongs...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:25 PM (qAKlO)

519 Or exposes of cheerleaders who play chess?

I'll do interviews.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:25 PM (0tfLf)

520 492. I have noticed about the violence being one sided for the most part. Maybe it's due to my BF who is usually chill calling me out of the blue, saying he wanted to fight. Gaslight media is getting people all spun up.

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 01:25 PM (7l5V0)

521 Personally, I’ve always wondered why the British didn’t intervene in the CV on the side of the South. Seems to me they could’ve negotiated a sweet, sweet deal on cotton exports that would’ve kept their textile mills humming for a long time.

Commenters gave lots of good reasons but I would add to that the fact that the British public was strongly against slavery at the time. Also, the north was a heavy exporter of goods and services to the UK.

From what I’ve read, the British and the French both debated heavily on intervening on the behalf of the Confederacy but decided it was a losing bet. If the Confederates had won a few more major battles, the British and the French may have chosen differently.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 20, 2017 01:26 PM (nvMvs)

522 I know we no longer nfl around here, but would it hurt for someone to throw a random cheerleader pic in a book or chess thread.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2017 12:27 PM (r+sAi)

There's an idea. Maybe a future chess/dress thread can feature cheerleader outfits.

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2017 01:22 PM (sdi6R)

Seconded!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:23 PM (3OIiX)

The random thread that turns mathy could use such pics too:

(gets out pom poms)
Tangent, Secant
Cosine, sine
3.14159
(puts down pom poms)

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:26 PM (FTXAT)

523 "Her natural political appeal in the Trump swing states, however, would appear non-existent."

Harris, when she was the DA in Scum Scamfrisco, had an ugly murder case come to trial in her bailiwick.

A local violent career-criminal scumbag had a shootout with the cops, which left one of the officers hurt, on the ground, unable to move, unable to fight back.

This gang thug ran up to the injured cop, and as the cop begged for his life, saying that he had a family and small children at home, the thug coldly shot the cop right in the face. Executed him. No other word suffices.

Open and shut case. Absolutely no doubt about guilt. Tons of witnesses.

Harris refused to even ask the jury for the death penalty.

It blows my mind that the national GOP do not absolutely trumpet this from the rooftops every time the name of Kamala Harris comes up. The good old Republican establishment: never failing to fail.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 20, 2017 01:27 PM (ujwCG)

524 'ments

'ments

'ments

'ments

'ments
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:21 PM (qAKlO)
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Still not A Thing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 01:28 PM (QGoUX)

525 You will find peace of mind deep down in your heart and soul. Kind of funny how such simple lyrics can be so moving

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 01:28 PM (PUmDY)

526
(gets out pom poms)
Tangent, Secant
Cosine, sine
3.14159
(puts down pom poms)
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:26 PM

*****

Now that would make my slide rule stand up!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:28 PM (0tfLf)

527 511 oh, and a pet show, gardening show ...
And a food show, and a movie show on Saturday night

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 01:28 PM (pPKG5)

528 I'm still holding a grudge on "our side" for turning their backs on JD
Hayworth because he was "too controversial" and a 'sure loser' in the
general.

McCain's team was running anti-Hayworth ads before Hayworth was even running. I think they even tried to buy time on Hayworth's radio program. McCain's entire primary strategy was to beat Hayworth, even if they had goad Hayworth into running. Of course JD's ego pretty much guaranteed he would run, so it was a fairly safe strategy.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2017 01:29 PM (IcT7t)

529 (gets out pom poms)

Tangent, Secant

Cosine, sine

3.14159

(puts down pom poms)

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:26 PM

*****

Now that would make my slide rule stand up!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:28 PM (0tfLf)

Go Euclideans!!! Woot!!!!!

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:29 PM (FTXAT)

530 If a Flake challenger - or Trump himself - cannot and do not take on and counter the insane, odious, baseless hysteria of the press, Dems, and GOPe (the current idiocy about "racism"), then they might as well go do something else anyway.

This is the worst I've ever seen it, in my life. This exceeds the hysteria and distortion over Iraq (happily swallowed by many here, it seems, judging by comments over time), it parallels the jaw-dropping distortion and slander of Katrina.

But this is worse. A president makes a perfectly appropriate, limited comment on a very small, confused situation - and is the target of baseless accusations, editorial cartoons, etc., similar to what Churchill and Jews faced from the (actual) Nazi press. Not to mention either idiotic, or despicably disingenuous, sniping from his "own" party.

I think that, somehow, things will get even worse, hard as that is to imagine. Why won't it? The country is so, so, *so* degraded, that th

Posted by: rhomboid at August 20, 2017 01:29 PM (cJDvr)

531 522
(gets out pom poms)
Tangent, Secant
Cosine, sine
3.14159
(puts down pom poms)
Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:26 PM (FTXAT)

LOL.

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2017 01:29 PM (sdi6R)

532 The venerable Booke Threade is veering off course.

How about a knife thread? We never have knife threads! *pouts*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 20, 2017 01:30 PM (QGoUX)

533 ... that this insane slanderous hatefest can even take place, with the media and the likes of Rubio thinking *they* are not ending their careers with it.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 20, 2017 01:30 PM (cJDvr)

534 413 326---Hooray unions! Social Justice Warriors and shitty mexican umpires, untie!
Posted by: BurtTC at August 20, 2017 11:57 AM (Pz4pT)
-------------------------------
I dunno, but this is baseball and the odds of him being Mexican are very low. Hardly impossible, mind you, but very low. P Rican or some other Caribbean origin, I would guess.
...
Posted by: Margarita DeVille

Correct! Angel Hernandez was born August 26, 1961 in Havana, Cuba.

Must be extra SJW points for that, eh esse?

Posted by: Times past at August 20, 2017 01:30 PM (v9gSJ)

535

Noif?

Now that's a noif!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQrLPtr_ikE

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:33 PM (qAKlO)

536 There wasa knife thread once I remember, or at least it became one. With cooking, survival, utility knives

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 01:33 PM (pPKG5)

537 Related: Angel Hernandez has filed a discrimination claim against MLB because he has not been given a Crew Chief job, or worked a World Series in more than 10 years.

This past week Ian Kinsler of the Tigers said unkind things about Angel's umpiring skills, saying flat out he thinks Angel should rethink his career choice.

I think a lot of players have said unkind things about him. In fact, when he first started whining about it I believe someone pointed out that on umpire evaluations he usually gets very bad grades.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 20, 2017 01:34 PM (auHtY)

538 rhomboid , mu thoughts as well.
So we really need to to brainswarm new ideas/ possibilities to reach the publics ear.

talking here helps us on groking the issues but we need more outreach.

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 01:34 PM (FKrah)

539 Late to check in but if anyone is looking for light hearted and humorous mysteries, check out books by Nic Saint- very funny and easy reads and entertaining.

Posted by: IC at August 20, 2017 01:34 PM (gcme+)

540 503 The Chive?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 20, 2017 01:18 PM (0tfLf)

Oh yes, the Chive. A very childish, immanture website that features...stuff. Look it up. The elbows man...epic. No nudity but they dance right up to that edge. They also do a lot of charity work.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:35 PM (3OIiX)

541 There wasa knife thread once I remember, or at least it became one. With cooking, survival, utility knives

Should we take another stab at it?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 20, 2017 01:35 PM (IcT7t)

542 Getting that no new thread feeling until 4pm

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 01:36 PM (pPKG5)

543
Should we take another stab at it?

What's the point?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 20, 2017 01:36 PM (qAKlO)

544 Hm, scantily dressed cheerleaders with elbows either playing chess or cheering for the chess players, sounds perfect!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:36 PM (gwPgz)

545 I'm also in for a knife thread. I'm wearing my new coyote brown Cold Steel AK-47 knife. Blade is smaller than expected, but feels good in hand. Solid.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:36 PM (3OIiX)

546 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 20, 2017 01:37 PM (mpXpK)

547 Getting that no new thread feeling until 4pm

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 01:36 PM (pPKG5)

Great... make us move just as the old thread gets broken in and comfie:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:37 PM (FTXAT)

548 "How about a knife thread? We never have knife threads!"

I like Mora's, but I don't want the expensive ones. I like the basic ones.

Amazon has the Craftline Pro S in stainless on sale for $9.43, which is just silly cheap for such a good tool.

http://tinyurl.com/yce6xw96

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 20, 2017 01:37 PM (398bZ)

549 sharpen. but I can't think of anything to go with it

Posted by: willow at August 20, 2017 01:37 PM (FKrah)

550 534---Must be extra SJW points for that, eh esse?
Posted by: Times past at August 20, 2017 01:30 PM (v9gSJ)
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It's spelled "ese" and it's not a typical Cuban usage.

And no, Cubans don't get extra SJW points. They get far fewer because they don't automatically push the D button every 4 years.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 20, 2017 01:38 PM (0jtPF)

551 Are Pom pons same as shakers?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 20, 2017 01:38 PM (PUmDY)

552 If you are a golfer - I tried Tom Coyne's "Paper Tiger", his chronicle of his journey from being a good golfer to one who spends a fanatical year determined to see how far up golfing's ladder he could climb.

In his late 20's, he spends all his savings, puts his wife to be on ice, and devotes himself full time to the pure pursuit of earning a PGA tour card.

Probably a limited audience, but imo, he is a terrific writer, with a sense of dry humor and a realization of the magnitude of the task. I cannot imagine a single golfer out there who hasn't wondered, "Gee, how good could I have become if... What if I had all the resources and time of a tour pro and none of my excuses?"

Brings a new meaning to those golf commercials about the pros - "These guys are good." Uh, yeah, they really are.

Posted by: RM at August 20, 2017 01:39 PM (U3LtS)

553 And just to keep the book theme alive, I started an old C.J. Cherryh novel, Well of Shiuan. Looks like it's book 2 in a series, so may need to hunt down the first one.

Lots of description and 'telling' but not a lot happening for the first 13 pages. Fun worldbuilding though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 20, 2017 01:39 PM (3OIiX)

554 Taking a Trump endorsement is a bet that you'll gain with turnout. That's important if you want to take out an incumbent like Flake.

I don't know AZ well, but I'd expect that its Rs are mostly deep red types, so a Trump endorsement should really help.

Challenge is the general. I'd take the risk of losing a seat if the seat is Flake-y, and it sends a message to the GOPe, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2017 01:41 PM (pV/54)

555 50 In case you’re curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for “lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual, 2-spirited, asexual, and allies.”
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the ‘Ettes ‘Ettes at August 20, 2017 09:33 AM (QGoUX)

Thank you, Eris.

Perhaps I’m strange, but I don’t base my identity on who I have sex with. I’m a Christian first and foremost, and secondarily a male with normal male desires.

I don’t hate anyone whose sexual practices deviate from tradition and am generally willing to live and let live. We have homosexual and lesbian morons and it doesn’t bother me.

What I dislike is those who insist that I have to wholeheartedly swear fealty to their lifestyle or to be permanently labeled as a bigot.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 20, 2017 01:41 PM (nvMvs)

556 Go Euclideans!!! Woot!!!!!

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:29 PM (FTXAT)

Look at the way the Riemannians go!

And that Schrödinger runs like a cat, even when he's boxed in!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 20, 2017 01:41 PM (gwPgz)

557 Well late to the thread, so what's going on?

In two days it will be two years since I put Golden Isis out there for people to read. Wow has time flown by.
http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B014BTSEYO

Busily writing stories but not the sequels to Golden Isis which still seem stuck in neutral.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 20, 2017 01:41 PM (28bqZ)

558 @506 Akin
-------------------

Are you referring to Todd Akin? Because he was his *opponent's* choice. McCaskill knew that she was probably going to lose the general election for her senate seat, so she manipulated the Republican primary to make sure that she ended up facing Akin instead of one of the other possible Republican candidates.

Then later on, she openly bragged about it in an article that she wrote.

Posted by: junior at August 20, 2017 01:46 PM (Q6qiA)

559 He may be planning a "right of Fox" network per some reports.

Steve Bannon, if you're out there:

1. This is a great idea.
2. Mr. O'Spades needs a show. (Title TBD. Maybe "Yub Yub".)
3. And the show needs a segment where Ace recaps the funniest comments from the blog.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 20, 2017 01:48 PM (4bKiB)

560 Anna - I thought a sequel would be easy, shows what I don't know

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2017 01:50 PM (pPKG5)

561 50,
"In case you're curious (!), LGBTQQIP2SAA stands for "lesbian, gay,
bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, pansexual,
2-spirited, asexual, and allies."

I'd change that last one to "Axis", but that's because I like to dress up, IYKWIM."

The Axis of the Confused.

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 20, 2017 01:52 PM (zOpu5)

562 "This is the worst I've ever seen it, in my life. This exceeds the hysteria and distortion over Iraq (happily swallowed by many here, it seems, judging by comments over time), it parallels the jaw-dropping distortion and slander of Katrina."

I hear you, rhomboid, but I do remember the tenor of the late 60's early 70's.

People like George Jackson and Angela Davis were lionized. The Zebra killings of totally random people just because they happened to be white seemed to get the same type of muted reaction as the Scalise shooting. Black Panthers were viewed as edgy, almost heroic characters. I remember at least one writer saying a white person's life simply was not worth as much as the life of a black person. College campuses were taken over and buildings burned by the left. Don't forget the Weathermen.

Things were very topsy turvy. It was not unusual in the 70s for people to accuse me of being a narc because I wore button down shirts, khakis, and Weejuns. (It sure wouldn't have been a way to blend in with the zeitgeist of the times).

Posted by: RM at August 20, 2017 01:53 PM (U3LtS)

563 525 . EWF, right?

Posted by: kallisto at August 20, 2017 01:58 PM (7l5V0)

564 (gets out pom poms)
Tangent, Secant
Cosine, sine
3.14159
(puts down pom poms)

Posted by: redbanzai at August 20, 2017 01:26 PM (FTXAT)
=====Wonderful! I have to figure out a way to save that one for my 'Iron Maiden' engineering baby girl.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 20, 2017 02:02 PM (MIKMs)

565 4K image of the library.

http://tinyurl.com/y8bjqrmu

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 20, 2017 02:04 PM (zOpu5)

566 wish there was a bigger-embiggened pic of that library. There must be so much detail that is lost in the smallish picture.
Posted by: josephistan at August 20, 2017 09:54

When I click on the tinyurl link above, #64, I get a larger version of the library pic. Which is not what it's supposed to be if I read the post right.

Posted by: Farmer at August 20, 2017 02:05 PM (lfXAE)

567 Oooops, that's not what I get now. My computer was going wonky so I did a restart, now it links to the map. Weird.

Posted by: Farmer at August 20, 2017 02:07 PM (lfXAE)

568 I still think slavery was an issue for the British, the Royal Navy had been doing anti-slavery cruises for a couple of decades preceding the war. Concerns for Canada aside, the slavery issue gave the Brits a pretext to stay out of the conflict but there was a lot of internal debate on the British side about the merits of intervening.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 20, 2017 09:47 AM (5Yee7)

Perhaps one thing the British could have done, had they been so inclined, would have been to mediate an armistice between the North and the South, with the proviso that the South agree to let slavery expire incrementally. How would that be done? First, no "new" slaves to be created after 1865. all children born of slave parents would be emancipated at birth. Their slave parents could continue to raise them, but any work the children did for the slavemaster's benefit would be paid, and they would be carried on the books as employees, and be free to leave once reaching adulthood. All existing slaves would be emancipated upon reaching, say, age 60, and given their 40 acres and a mule.

Result: by 1925, there would be no more slaves. And this would of course coincide with generational change in the slaveholding classes, so it could be incremental upon their part, too. No new slaveholders after 1865, and heirs of deceased slaveholders cannot inherit the slaves (except in the case of the murder of the slaveholder by a slave; one would not want to create a perverse incentive).

And Britain could have offered to resettle freed slaves in their Caribbean colonies, as free persons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 20, 2017 02:09 PM (2le8w)

569 Strahov Monastery Library Prague image. Also 4k.

http://tinyurl.com/y7fkbbzt

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 20, 2017 02:10 PM (zOpu5)

570 Re: the Willis and Puppies bit.

This was back in '15. She refused to present the Campbell Award for new writer and the co-host David Gerrold went on a big on-line rant about how he was missing a chance for a really funny joke and concluded with "Thanks, you f***ed up the Hugos."

Come August, I was in Spokane. Midway through the show, who should be announced as a presenter but Ms. Willis. Not the Campbell, but a different category. And Gerrold got to voice his awesome special joke. Which was flat and meh.

Meanwhile, the puppy kickers passed out as many "no-award" as in the entire previous history of the Hugos. And all the good little citizens of AirStrip One dutifully whooped and hollered (literally) each time it happened.

Went to the awards last year and faced with the low bar for hosting that Gerrold had set, Pat Caddigan got her limbo game on.

I'm pretty much done with the Hugos. I'll take the free book package that comes with a WorldCon membership, but nom and vote? Nah.

Of course, after San Jose next year and Dublin '19, I might just write of WC as a whole...

Posted by: Captain Comic at August 20, 2017 02:15 PM (dKODI)

571 Related: Angel Hernandez has filed a discrimination claim against MLB because he has not been given a Crew Chief job, or worked a World Series in more than 10 years. "

That's because he's a shitty ump. His strike zone varies from batter to batter.

When every mlb team has a bunch of Hispanic players, claiming mlb is bigoted against Hispanics is ridiculous, but we live in ridiculous times.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V : The Brewers bats have died at August 20, 2017 02:15 PM (P8951)

572 In truth he would have done the crown a huge service if he had arranged for Elizabeth to marry someone other than a first cousin.
Posted by: Tuna at August 20, 2017 10:50

Actually they are second cousins once removed thru Christian IX of Denmark and third cousins thru Queen Victoria.

Posted by: Farmer at August 20, 2017 02:31 PM (lfXAE)

573 To understand why the British didn't get a sweet deal on cotton by joining an alliance with CSA read the section of U.S. Grant's autobiography regarding English millworkers. They refused to work with Southern cotton, even though that refusal cost their livelihood.
Grant's memoir is a great read all together.

Posted by: HBFINN at August 20, 2017 02:32 PM (8VzGj)

574 I see Giles Milton also wrote WHITE GOLD about the North Africa slave trade,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 20, 2017 02:37 PM (dKiJG)

575 That Prague library is gorgeous.

Kudos to the Czechs for fighting to preserve their culture, which they are right to be proud of.

Posted by: logprof at August 20, 2017 03:18 PM (GsAUU)

576 I was reading Mohammad Rihan, The Politics and Culture of an Umayyad Tribe. Not worth full price. Does have some moron-worthy bit of Arab satire though (almost all Arab poetry is moron-worthy, except the Qur'an, which sucks).

The famous poet Jarir mocked the tribe 'Amila:

The Amili is known for his lack of generosity
We grant that his penis is long

So an 'Amili poet piped up:
Did your mother tell you its length
Or do you just not know what you're talking about?

The caliph (al-Walid I) marked it as a win for the 'Amila and bade Jarir not to bother responding to that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 04:07 PM (6FqZa)

577 If you really want to embiggen that library pic, simply set as your background.. right click aand click the appropriate selection from the menu--like magic.

Posted by: Semilitterate at August 20, 2017 04:25 PM (cLG/j)

578 Map of the World, drawn by a UK Tory about 1985 https://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/toryatlasoftheworld2.jpg

Posted by: hurricane567 at August 20, 2017 04:39 PM (LXVg1)

579 the Tory map is hilarious. Wot.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 20, 2017 04:54 PM (6FqZa)

580 114 Anyone else here ever read the Kim Standly Robinson Mars books?

In find them interesting and dull as dirt and I just can't quite put my finger on why.
Posted by: Sayomara at August 20, 2017 10:03 AM (2kjMD)

Started out dull and got duller. Never finished them.

Posted by: Miss Sippi at August 20, 2017 06:37 PM (5fPhA)

581 Read "The Missionaries" by Owen Stanley. Good read from an author who has never written anything else that I can find.

He takes apart "do gooders" and everything from the EU to the United Nations with wit and humor.

Read up on the author. His life sounds like the adventure we all dream of.

Highly recommend.

Posted by: Anchovy at August 20, 2017 07:15 PM (5WzV1)

582 >This is funny because Connie Willis' first novel is a sympathetic Treatment of Robert E. Lee. It's entitled Lincoln's Dreams and my lurking peep recommends it highly. It's about a research assistant for a Civil War novelist and a girl who meets who keeps dreaming Robert E. Lee's dreams. The novel is virtually a love letter to Robert E. Lee -- not to the Confederacy or slavery, to a kind, gentle, noble Robert E. Lee, the Marble Man of the South. Which Kindle edition you can buy for $4.99.

Wait'll they hear what Philip K. Dick did with the Nazis. That'll really have the snowflakes clutching their pearls.

Posted by: Scott at August 21, 2017 11:43 AM (kmvkg)

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