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As Trump Predicted: Pastor Demands George Washington Statue Be Removed; Flashback: Leftists Demand Teddy Roosevelt Statue Be Destroyed

George Washington owned slaves -- and that's all he did.

A Chicago pastor has asked the Emanuel administration to remove the names of two presidents who owned slaves from parks on the South Side, saying the city should not honor slave owners in black communities.

A bronze statue of George Washington on horseback stands at the corner of 51st and King Drive, at the northwest entrance to Washington Park.

Bishop James Dukes, pastor of Liberation Christian Center, said he wants the statue gone, and he wants George Washington’s name removed from the park.

“When I see that, I see a person who fought for the liberties, and I see people that fought for the justice and freedom of white America, because at that moment, we were still chattel slavery, and was three-fifths of humans,” he said. “Some people out here ask me, say ‘Well, you know, he taught his slaves to read.’ That’s almost sad; the equivalent of someone who kidnaps you, that you gave them something to eat.”


Dukes said, even though Washington was the nation’s first president and led the American army in the Revolutionary War, he’s no hero to the black community.

“There’s no way plausible that we would even think that they would erect a Malcolm X statue in Mount Greenwood, Lincoln Park, or any of that. Not that say Malcolm X was a bad guy; they just would not go for it,” he said. “Native Americans would not even think about putting up a Custer statue, because of the atrocities that he plagued upon Native Americans. And for them to say to us ‘just accept it’ is actually insulting.”

This story is from last year, but goes with the new one: Leftist activist demand that New York Natural History Museum take down the statue of Teddy Roosevelt, a "racist."

BTW, I'm pretty sure Teddy Roosevelt's statue is there because he founded the museum.

Here's another flashback, this one to 2015:


Posted by: Ace at 12:54 PM




Comments

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1 Shocking

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2017 12:55 PM (rmVvL)

2 Utter insanity, and first?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 16, 2017 12:55 PM (WuRdj)

3 FDR interned some folks.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 16, 2017 12:56 PM (nKbPK)

4 My GaF-meter's broken, and the guy who could fix it is out protesting with Anti-Fa.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 16, 2017 12:56 PM (WuRdj)

5 So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy White History?

Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 12:56 PM (aT+Bx)

6 Does anyone here live in Chicago's South side? No? OK, we're good then.








/sarc

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 12:57 PM (NOIQH)

7 Screw that ignorant SOB, I'm tired of the idiocy and it needs to be stopped, now.

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at August 16, 2017 12:57 PM (qZdIZ)

8 A woman who is considering running for GA governor, Stacey Abrams (who is originally from Madison, WI) is calling for the blasting off of the face of Stone Mountain.

She's got the support of John Lewis, so there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2017 12:57 PM (PY9jH)

9 5 So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy White History?
Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 12:56 PM (aT+Bx)

So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy History?


FIFY

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)

10 Arlington National Cemetery Memorial Next?!!

Posted by: Alarming Headline Generator at August 16, 2017 12:57 PM (B9t7n)

11 You know who never owned slaves?

Hitler. That's who.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (TOk1P)

12 >>So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy White History?


Yes. Destroy whiteness, as they like to say.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (NOIQH)

13 He wasn't the biggest fan of Islam, either. I bet you he wasn't even pro gay marriage. He probably didn't even realize that there are 47 genders!


Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (oZ6kz)

14 When will noted racist Margaret Sanger's living (or should I say killing) legacy be defunded and torn down?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (GQn43)

15 When is the White House going to be torn down? Because Moochelle said she had to sleep in a house built by slaves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (PY9jH)

16 I'm old enough to remember when the Marxists were screeching that Christians and Republicans would behave like the Taliban.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (XFue2)

17 Civil War II has begun.

Posted by: SillyBoy at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (Q3oNv)

18 Neither did Stalin, so.....

Let's repurpose those statutes, folks! Just add mustaches.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2017 12:59 PM (TOk1P)

19 So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy History?





FIFY
--

Yeah, I think they're leaving the Martin Luther King statues up.

So right now, it's only White History.

But yeah, history in general is their goal.

#LiberalsAreAmericasTaliban

Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 12:59 PM (aT+Bx)

20 400+ homicides in Chicago so far this year. +80% black on black. What have the statues done?

Posted by: Derptastic at August 16, 2017 12:59 PM (DB16e)

21 Muhammad enslaved people and hated the Jews, PBUH.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 16, 2017 12:59 PM (nKbPK)

22 Gotta tear down Monticello and the Jefferson Memorial. And let's not allow the Washington Monument to remain.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2017 12:59 PM (PY9jH)

23 Would anyone be surprised to hear that CAIR has come out strongly in favor of eliminating Confederate statues, etc.?


http://preview.tinyurl.com/y6uosmbm

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (NOIQH)

24 Is Mount Vernon Burning?

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (Bdeb0)

25 Only person in the world willing to take on the Media/Democrat/Alt-Left/Fascist Complex: Donald Trump. We're living witnesses to a true Lincoln figure.

Posted by: SillyBoy at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (Q3oNv)

26
So, Washington Square Park in NYC?

Hell, WASHINGTON STATE and WASHINGTON DC???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (mbhDw)

27 Isn't destruction of history something a conquering culture does to the conquered?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (XFue2)

28 When will the Egyptian Pyramids be torn down?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (GQn43)

29 o, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy White History?
Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 12:56 PM (aT+Bx)


The goal of the left has been to destroy *ALL* history, and replace it with approved myths.

A lot of the foot-soldiers are nihilistic assholes who just want to bully and destroy because it makes them feel powerful. They don't care about the cause, as long as they are on the winning side. My liberal mother asked me what I thought of Trump's press conference and I told her I loved it. I explained Ace's concept of the McGuffinization of Politics and how the Left cares about being the hero of the story, not about the actual policies. She said, "But isn't that what Trump is doing when he says that he wants a bill, any bill, to sign? He wants a victory!" My response, "Yup. And that's why we love him. He understands how to fight and how to change the narrative. We're sick of the establishment types who love to get into the minutiae but can't actually win anything."

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (Tnhbr)

30 >>So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy History?


"Not such a new idea. Just have a laugh and forget..."
--- Milan Kundera

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (NOIQH)

31
By the way, much that I hate Obama, Mitt Romney is a disgusting piece of shit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (mbhDw)

32 20 400+ homicides in Chicago so far this year. +80% black on black. What have the statues done?
Posted by: Derptastic at August 16, 2017 12:59 PM (DB16e)


Not functioned as cover obviously.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (jxbfJ)

33 If it will end the gang violence in Chicago, and bring peace to the city, then I say, tear down that statue.

Posted by: H. Mann Lee at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (m9X4Y)

34 28 When will the Egyptian Pyramids be torn down?
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (GQn43)


Not enough real Jews left to demand it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (mbhDw)

35 As Trump Predicted

He is the Kwisatz Haderach.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (LTHVh)

36 George Jefferson: Excitable dry-cleaning magnate, irascible husband, stern father, unfortunate heir of a racist surname.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (Bdeb0)

37
Isn't destruction of history something a conquering culture does to the conquered?
---

Yep.


Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (aT+Bx)

38 okay, this is bugging me. Yesterday Trump said there were good people on both sides and THAT I think is where this shit storm is coming from. I know it was a white supremist group that asked for the permit but were there actually other, you know NORMAL people there as well? And is there any proof of that fact?

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (zRZaJ)

39 Who's worse, a Lettie fascist like Terry McAuliffe or a rightie pussy like, well, name the Republican Senator?

I say McCain. He's worst.

Posted by: SillyBoy at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (Q3oNv)

40 he wants Washington's name removed.

I've never met a white person named Washington.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (nFwvY)

41 So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy History?

New? No, not new.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (oVJmc)

42 Can we get rid of all memorials to people who weren't for gay marriage too. I'm looking at you Rosa "Homophobe" Parks.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at August 16, 2017 01:03 PM (sk3Uw)

43 The Triggerings will continue until History is white-washed to gray blandness.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 16, 2017 01:03 PM (t0zs2)

44 Oregon wants to change the names of schools, buildings, etc., named "Lynch" because it has supposed racist connotations. Never mind that they were named after people. We have to accommodate the deliberately stupid amongst us.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 16, 2017 01:03 PM (Tnhbr)

45 Jeez, they usually wait until Indigenous Peoples Day to deface the Columbus Statue.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 16, 2017 01:03 PM (O5Q3r)

46 "31 By the way, much that I hate Obama, Mitt Romney is a disgusting piece of shit."

Poetic. And literally true.

Posted by: SillyBoy at August 16, 2017 01:03 PM (Q3oNv)

47 FWIW, the custodians of Mount Vernon are, well...I'll put it this way. They banned guns on the premises. They don't allow concealed carry there, and they are insistent on that point.

I'm morbidly wondering when push is going to come to shove there and Mount Vernon gets some visitors of the Antifa variety.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (tVWQB)

48 This truly is a case of if you can't appreciate George Washington "for the justice and freedom of white America", then you really should think about moving to Africa.

Yes, white people (in the South) hoarded those blessings mostly to themselves, but they were rightly expanded to black Americans, as they should have been.

If Americans never took slaves, there would have been little need to import Africans.

Posted by: Axeman at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (2mC6G)

49 Bishop James Dukes, pastor of Liberation Christian Center,





I'm guessing it's heavy on "liberation" and about a Christian as Barry's pal Rev. Wright

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (493sH)

50 White House....just sayin'.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (ymnmz)

51 >>>He is the Kwisatz Haderach

If he can predict the past, well of course he is.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (Fnu13)

52 The absolute BREAKNECK pace Antifa's storm of Conquering is moving it pretty much confirms to me that that whole damned "rally" was an op.

Kessler was bait meant to lure in suckers and lead them into Antifa's arms.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (XMDuf)

53 I wonder if RINOs realize this may make it hard for them to keep their sinecures? 2018 is going to be an interesting election.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (cfHE9)

54 For anyone who is concerned this will never stop and we should just concede:

First of all, you're a pussy. Second, this will stop when the leftist fascist have another big protest, which will be soon because it's all they do.

The TV cameras will be turned off and the Fake News will pivot back to Russian Delusion as the leftist fascists commit acts of violence.

Posted by: Soothie at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (phmNs)

55 I become tearful when I see or read what's happening to this wonderful country.

Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (Fmupd)

56 Don't even get me started about George Washington Carver!

Posted by: jd at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (cIj06)

57 When will nut-less faggots in government say "I don't really care that you are bitching, it stays"?

Or is that only for Obamacare?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (GQn43)

58 Regarding Washington's statue -
My distant great....grandfather crossed the Delaware with Washington and was mortally wounded.

Go ahead, tear it down and see how it works out

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (jxbfJ)

59 Who controls the past controls the future.
Who controls the present controls the past.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (hMwEB)

60 *puts hands over Fenelon's eyes* This is profane, even by my standards.

You know, both during and since the 2012 elections, I have felt somewhat ashamed that I was known to refer to Mitt Romney as a duplicitous motherfucker when it came to political matters. I even wandered into the Mitt Romney may be the most decent person to run for President in at least modern times, if not ever.

So. I'm a fool.

Mitt Romney can suck my girl dick.

I do appreciate, however, that the existential question as to why the GOP never would defend the base when the base was being called racist being clearly answered. So that's nice.

Hey! We lied to you for 7 years about what we would do if you voted us control of the House, Senate and Presidency and you're all Nazis who deserve to be hit in the head with bike locks, have urine thrown at you, be tear gassed and be beaten up! Vote for us!

See re: Mitt Romney and his sucking of my girl dick.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (mf5HN)

61 Isn't destruction of history something a conquering culture does to the conquered?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe



In their minds maybe. We haven't played cowboys & amerifa yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (U76Nz)

62 Today statues come down for racism. Maybe tomorrow books are destroyed for sexism. Maybe later people are destroyed for being on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

63 Liberation in the Leftist sense of being enslaved to past injustice. Fear is happiness, strength is joy...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (t0zs2)

64 I'm thinking we don't even have to ask Bishop James Dukes on where he stands on a Margaret Sanger bust being included in a Smithsonian exhibit on civil rights.


(A lot of black pastors did object to it, but their requests for its removal and press conferences were ignored by the MSM, and declined by the Smithsonian.)

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (NOIQH)

65 The really important question here is:

How is Louise Mensch going to insert herself into this subject, since the RUSSIA nonsense is taking a back seat?

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM (wwL6Q)

66 No problem here as long as we're not honoring MLK Jr in white areas.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM (4ErVI)

67 Oh ace, don't you read your own comments section, FFS?

This isn't possible, and isn't going to happen.

Besides, Chicago is more than 10 miles from where you live, so - none of your business.

Finally, it's no big deal. Just a statue. People will still remember Washington.

I mean, think through this - unlike Nazi Germany, or the Soviet Union, or ISIS in their caliphate or the Taliban in A'stan - THIS insane ignorant mob seeking revenge and indulging their racism and illiteracy is different. Because.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM (QDnY+)

68 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy


Please don't talk to me.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM (LTHVh)

69 Let them overreach. Plan the counter-attack.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM (hyuyC)

70 "If he can predict the past, well of course he is."

He remembered the past and mentioned it appropriately. That puts him in the 99.99 percentile right there. :-)

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM (cfHE9)

71 Just announced by the Philadelphia "inter-faith clergy group" POWER:

Don't miss tonight's (Wed, 11/16) "March against white supremacy" down Broad Street - 7 pm; 600 N. Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA.

Demand the dismantling of white supremacy!!!! $15 living wage now!!!!

Posted by: PrayForMojo at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (SeIF3)

72 Today statues come down for racism. Maybe tomorrow books are destroyed for sexism. Maybe later people are destroyed for being on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)



Antifa: How did you get a copy of our playbook?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (493sH)

73 @27

The US was effectively conquered in the 60's and 70's it's just taken a little while to all shake out.

With the events of the last few days we know where this is all going.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (71/k8)

74 33
If it will end the gang violence in Chicago, and bring peace to the city, then I say, tear down that statue.





Posted by: H. Mann Lee at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (m9X4Y)

Hey! It worked for New Orleans!

Posted by: Mostly Cajun at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (U5CmX)

75 Utter madness.

What comes next: The state of Washington needs to change its name. Washington D.C. too. Every city, town street county etc. named after an " offensive" person needs to be changed. Now!

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (wt0kN)

76 GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS A NAZI!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (Nwg0u)

77 Everyone could see this play a mile away.

I remember getting in a heated discussion a while ago with your classic GOPe type that just wanted the Republicans to fold on the Confederate stuff and tear it all down so we could move on.

I brought up the Founders owned slaves and it was like he had been hit with a 2x4. Said that was different but couldn't explain why.

Posted by: Maritime at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (MbH5g)

78 68 Please don't talk to me.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM (LTHVh)

Tomato Bisque Man does not talk. Tomato Bisque Man only taunts.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (XMDuf)

79 The biggest political divide we have is rural v. urban, with suburbs jump ball.

The Charlottesville thing is an example of a D-dominated out-of-control municipal government suddenly believing that it must do political shit bigger than running the schools and picking up the trash.

This is also how the Trannies in the Bathroom thing started, with NC and TX being forced to step in because of actions by Charlotte and Houston.

If you want to see a cold civil war it'll be along these fault lines, as some cities collapse in a death spiral of increasing crime and broken budgets. Many, many Detroits. No bailouts!

Posted by: Zombie Rodney King at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (+7/1f)

80 Summon the meteors.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (6mJ8T)

81
btw, I am still amazed how well trained ALL the Republicans are.

Democrats and Fake News have them jumping through hoops at the snap of a finger.

I hate these people. I hate the Republicans more than I hate Democrats.

Posted by: Soothie at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (phmNs)

82 Baldilocks is wondering how long before the demands that Washington DC change its name begin. I mean, Washington (white save owner) and Columbia (white evil oppressor)? TRIGGER

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (39g3+)

83 *puts hands over Fenelon's eyes* This is profane, even by my standards.



That wasn't profane. There was no mention of taint. Or taint paint. Or tongue banging your fart box.

That rant was mild.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (U76Nz)

84 alex, I cam howling with laughter amidst the rubble! Kudos!

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (QDnY+)

85 We sjhould started demanding that every road, bridge, building, or whatever in the country named after MLK be renamed to former lying wife cheating asshole.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (mpXpK)

86 George Jefferson: Excitable dry-cleaning magnate, irascible husband, stern father, unfortunate heir of a racist surname.


Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (Bdeb0)

LOL. I remember the episode where he made a TV commercial claiming he was a descendant of Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by: mark1971 at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (xPl2J)

87 Will Washington state change its name?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (t0zs2)

88 For those on Twitter, can you reach out to the executives of the cities in question and tweet:

#[CityName]ConqueredbyAntifa

Followed by:

#SlaveofAntifa

Someone should let them know that they've been conquered and that they're now the slaves of the Left.

Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (aT+Bx)

89 I don't care anymore. Let the country burn. My only hope is that the uniparty stooges who have enabled this insanity burn down with it.

Posted by: JC at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (3GSgE)

90
We demand that all vestiges of the Western, white patriarchy be stricken from the planet!!!

*one week later*

Wait, bring it back! Bring it back! Everything's GONE!!!!! *sob*

Posted by: The Left at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (vtcmf)

91 Idiots on the Right protesting have never read up on Cloward Piven. You have to have the support of the media for social change. (I took a poly sic class where this was taught).

Without the support of the MSM, which is 95% of the media, you have no chance. You are only helping the Marxists advance the ball to their endzone.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (XFue2)

92 James Dukes, David Duke... not so different really...
Any Church with " Liberation" in its name is not for Liberty.

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (zSVEm)

93 When do we ban the democrat party?

Posted by: Spidly at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (Pw6wN)

94 I would support a movement to move the nation's capital out of WASHINGTON, District of COLOMBIA.

I mean, really...

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (wwL6Q)

95 26
So, Washington Square Park in NYC?

Hell, WASHINGTON STATE and WASHINGTON DC???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (mbhDw)


It's funny because there's a town in eastern WA that named George. George Washington. Get it?

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (mcI77)

96 The mob now rules...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (O2RFr)

97 The state of Washington needs to change its name. Washington D.C. too.

-
Name them La-a.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (Nwg0u)

98 Today statues come down for racism. Maybe tomorrow books are destroyed for sexism. Maybe later people are destroyed for being on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)
---
Ooh! Ow! Ow. Ow. Ooh.
....
Ahhhhhhh. {easing into a hot bath}

Posted by: Axeman at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (2mC6G)

99 I hate these people. I hate the Republicans more than I hate Democrats.
--

We need a new party.

#RepublicansAreWhigs

/yeah, I really should get on Twitter.

Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (aT+Bx)

100 47 FWIW, the custodians of Mount Vernon are, well...I'll put it this way. They banned guns on the premises. They don't allow concealed carry there, and they are insistent on that point.

I'm morbidly wondering when push is going to come to shove there and Mount Vernon gets some visitors of the Antifa variety.
Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 16, 2017 01:04 PM (tVWQB)

-------------

I would bet a month's salary that plans for the destruction of Mt. Rushmore is being conspired as we write.

Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (Fmupd)

101 Are there any Cromwell statues? Wanna tear down something

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (1ub+c)

102 The slope isn't slippery, they said.

Come on just take a single step, they said.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (KUaJL)

103 Empress... this is meant is the most kind way possible...


Your's is probably bigger than his also.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (t0zs2)

104 The Lincoln memorial is next. Lincoln once said that blacks and whites aren't equals...

Posted by: Hamilton at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (sCjDS)

105 Funny, I heard today that the slippery slope argument is invalid.

Posted by: Aunt Luna's phone at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (eNHDE)

106 By the way, much that I hate Obama, Mitt Romney is a disgusting piece of shit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:01 PM (mbhDw)


We know there are many good people who are desperately trying to salvage the Republican Party, but the actions of those who have assumed leadership of this Party for the past 10 or so years has indicated, they don't want it saved.

They are actively destroying it themselves.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2017 01:10 PM (TOk1P)

107 I mean, think through this - unlike Nazi Germany, or
the Soviet Union, or ISIS in their caliphate or the Taliban in A'stan -
THIS insane ignorant mob seeking revenge and indulging their racism and
illiteracy is different. Because.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:06 PM



Leftist logic. Nicely done.

Posted by: huerfano at August 16, 2017 01:10 PM (TO4Og)

108 It's funny because there's a town in eastern WA that named George. George Washington. Get it?
Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (mcI77)
---
But that would be George, Washington, which is another way of saying Washington George.

It really needs to be the town of Washington in the state of George, which would make it Washington, George or "George Washington.

Posted by: Axeman at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (2mC6G)

109 The red rat commie bastards of the Democratic Party are our opponents. The Republican Leadership is our enemy..

Posted by: Grump928(c) reminds you at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (LTHVh)

110 Dear Illuminatin' Sir,

Slaves at Washington's time voted how often? Three fifths related to their voting and even that case law was not yet in force. What sounded good on a bullhorn is still false no matter how hard you believe it.

Excelsior!

Posted by: 80's music fan at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (xaJIp)

111 Utter madness.

What comes next: The state of Washington needs to change its name. Washington D.C. too. Every city, town street county etc. named after an " offensive" person needs to be changed. Now!
Posted by: Tuna



EVERYTHING in West Virginia with Robert KKK Byrd's name on it gets burned to the ground.

I will settle for nothing less.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (U76Nz)

112 Meanwhile, HuffPo, Newsweak, The Week, etc. all roll their eyes at the idea that this would happen.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (+ttLq)

113 Sally Hemings was raped. At least six times. By Thomas Jefferson. Let's get some hate on.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (Bdeb0)

114 ...and then...they came for me.

Posted by: The Oscar Mayer Weinermobile at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (vtcmf)

115 Can we get rid of all memorials to people who weren't for gay marriage too. I'm looking at you Rosa "Homophobe" Parks.
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MLK. And as someone who knows a Chinese person, I find FDRs internment camp for those other Chinese people hurtful. Tear him down, remove him from history!

Posted by: scofflaw_x at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (sk3Uw)

116 101 Are there any Cromwell statues? Wanna tear down something

Cromwell, CT.
Used to live there.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (mcI77)

117 And West Virginia has a fire sale...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (t0zs2)

118 96

The mob now rules...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:08 PM (O2RFr)

That's what they want... what they get is all the publicity...

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (zSVEm)

119 3. Yes. I heard on 560am here in chgo on the drive in this morning that there were 18 people from a stautue history preservation society there. I guess I'll be leader was on some news channel . This should've been mentioned by trump. You need to be specific

Posted by: Big swingin Al at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (8WS2E)

120 There was a time when doctors treated patients by lancing veins and applying leeches. Therefore I am triggered by their profession and all physicians should be removed from the public square.

Posted by: kallisto at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (g+Dix)

121 Sally Hemings was raped. At least six times. By Thomas Jefferson. Let's get some hate on.

By a Jefferson anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (LTHVh)

122 Bring me the head of Robert Byrd !!!

Posted by: Cheri at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (oiNtH)

123 "Who controls the past controls the future.
Who controls the present controls the past."

Not really. The people who do stuff create wealth. All this rioting will make those people not create as much wealth. Re-distribution will break down. See USSR.

Obama supporters are not good at anything that creates wealth.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (cfHE9)

124 A new time for choosing: You can have America or political correctness, but not both.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (QtQaN)

125 I would bet a month's salary that plans for the destruction of Mt. Rushmore is being conspired as we write.
Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (Fmupd)


Yep.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (TOk1P)

126 But I thought they only needed to tear down just one statue nearby and they'd be satisfied!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (0mRoj)

127 the city should not honor slave owners in black communities.

Not so long ago, following such a claim, the nature of that community would be a-changing, by sundown. So many of us thought those days were past. Wuz we ever rongg.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (H5rtT)

128

There is a statue of commie mass murdered Lenin in Seattle but that's totes okay I guess

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (493sH)

129 I like the Mount Rushmore mention.

Posted by: 80's music fan at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (xaJIp)

130 That wasn't profane. There was no mention of taint. Or taint paint. Or tongue banging your fart box.

That rant was mild.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (U76Nz)


I am trying to use fewer (less? I suck and blow at remembering which to use) profanities.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (mf5HN)

131 81
btw, I am still amazed how well trained ALL the Republicans are.

Democrats and Fake News have them jumping through hoops at the snap of a finger.

I hate these people. I hate the Republicans more than I hate Democrats.

Posted by: Soothie at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (phmNs)

Indeed. The term cuck might well end up as one of the most astute political observations in decades.

Some racists attached a racial dimension to it (surprise!), but the more common meaning of them bending over for any and all leftist bullshit and asking for more couldn't be more perfect of a descriptor.

You'll know things are about to get really real when you start seeing these pieces of shit getting purged. At that point go long on popcorn futures.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (4ErVI)

132 There was an awesome comment once made by a Soviet analyst/historian, referring to the very chilling practice of Soviet regimes "changing" history to suit their needs, once a particular group of thugs had gained power, succeeding the prior ones.

"The Soviet Union is the only country where the past is unpredictable"

It's sickening to see just how un-special the US, now, really is.

And if my disgust builds any more I'll repeat my amazingly on-topic anecdote, involving precisely this special difference between the US and the USSR/Russia, from decades ago.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (QDnY+)

133 MLK. And as someone who knows a Chinese person, I find FDRs internment camp for those other Chinese people hurtful. Tear him down, remove him from history!

Posted by: scofflaw_x at August 16, 2017 01:11 PM (sk3Uw)


Chinese?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (493sH)

134 Soon now.
Very soon.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (jWe5r)

135 98 Today statues come down for racism. Maybe tomorrow books are destroyed for sexism. Maybe later people are destroyed for being on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)
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Ooh! Ow! Ow. Ow. Ooh.
....
Ahhhhhhh. {easing into a hot bath}
Posted by: Axeman at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (2mC6G)

Uhhhhh....was it good for you?

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (RD7QR)

136 The makers of "Dunkirk" just called in to remind us all that, like the criticisms directed at them so recently by the insane left, they'd like to point out that Islam countenances slave ownership right now, and always has, and that Jefferson spent years buying American sailors out of Islamic slavery.

So maybe Pastor James Dukes should focus his ire at Louis Farrakhan first, before criticizing GW.

I personally love to watch crazy-on-crazy fights over historical questions neither party has the faintest idea how to address.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (LISuA)

137 They're going to replace the faces on Mount Rushmore with Rodney King, Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (xPl2J)

138 Incidentally, Gen. Custer is a hero where I grew up, which is the Crow Reservation in Montana. He died protecting the Crow/Apsalooka from the Lakota who had been trying to take their lands for generations. Many Crow warriors fought with Custer and had complete autonomy, as witnessed by the fact that they were free not to ride into the trap at the Little Bighorn. Too bad he didn't follow their example.

Posted by: B5pinoza at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (8VsWs)

139 >>Not really. The people who do stuff create wealth.
All this rioting will make those people not create as much wealth. Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:12 PM (cfHE9)

Or it'll make them Galts-Gulch it out of town.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (Bdeb0)

140 Meanwhile, HuffPo, Newsweak, The Week, etc. all roll their eyes at the idea that this would happen.

Just a head fake.

They know full well that it's on the agenda.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (oVJmc)

141 The state of Washington needs to change its name. Washington D.C. too.
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Call it Redskins D.C. maybe.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (sk3Uw)

142 Native Americans would not even think about putting up a Custer statue
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So this is an odd comparison. Custer was a failed US general that died fighting against a group of Indian tribes.

Washington wasn't fighting against black Americans...he was fighting against the British, under whom slavery was legal.

But this does bring up an interesting point...if American Indians are supposed to be offended by Custer...would that mean that we should tear down any statues of Lincoln and Grant in any southern states?


Posted by: 18-1 at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (eSx+E)

143 Chinese?


Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (LTHVh)

144 Bishop James Dukes, pastor of Liberation Christian Center

"Bishop". These guys always love bestowing titles on themselves.

Posted by: Terry Jones+ at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (/qEW2)

145 I wonder how much of this idiocy is being directed behind the scenes by our former President Barry "Cock Curious" Obama.

Posted by: Fritz at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (eLttb)

146 They're going to replace the faces on Mount Rushmore with Rodney King, Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (xPl2J)



No wymyn or trannies?!?!?!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (493sH)

147 The CEO of McDonalds on Maria grandstanding and spouting the approved narrative.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (71/k8)

148 THIS IS CRITICAL THEORY IN ACTION.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (oVJmc)

149 130 That wasn't profane. There was no mention of taint. Or taint paint. Or tongue banging your fart box.

That rant was mild.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (U76Nz)

I am trying to use fewer (less? I suck and blow at remembering which to use) profanities.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:13 PM (mf5HN)

Discrete items (like words): Fewer. Continuous units (like water): less.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (RD7QR)

150 Thirty days food and water.

If you don't have that stocked up ... consider it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (ISejo)

151 I don't know, this latest PR offensive against trump could go the distance and cost him the 2016 election. The GOP better betray him accordingly

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (DQdye)

152 We need a new party. There's no time to reform the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (398bZ)

153
We need a new party. There's no time to reform the GOP.
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THIS

Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (aT+Bx)

154 Yes, AlextheChick has become only a moderate user of profanity.

For comparison purposes only:

219 Obama Website: 'Vote Like Your Lady Parts Depend On It'

Warning: This is going to be incredibly profane, even by my standards.

I am not my cunt. My entire life does not revolve around whom I fuck or who will fuck me. My tits are not relevant only to the extent that they may turn on me and give me cancer and kill me. Oh and speaking of cancer, and fuck cancer with the Warcock outfitted with a flaming cougar condom, cancer is not a motherfucking political issue you worthless pieces of shit who are turning it to such. My value as a person is not my vagina. I am not a mewling quim who is in desperate need of Daddy to take care of me because I am too feeble minded and weak to do so myself. I am not a talking gash who exists solely to be manipulated by being threatened that oh noes the Republicans hate my lady parts by the same party that is, as a practical matter, enforcing blasphemy laws on behalf of a religion that will cut off my clitoris. Let's not mention cutting off my head because I have the temerity to appreciate other ladies' lady parts.

Every single Democrat who believes that the only thing I value as a woman is abortion needs to be punched in the face by me. Fuck you. Fuck you sideways with a pineapple. It's shockingly sexist and pathetic and disgusting.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 02, 2012 01:30 PM (VtjlW)

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (t0zs2)

155 I am trying to use fewer (less? I suck and blow at remembering which to use) profanities.
==

Believe it's supposed to be "fewer fucking profanities."

But from what I hear, the fewer/less thing is another one of Fowler's made-up distinctions. Traditionally, both were correct.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (OVUYQ)

156 We would advocate replacing the portraits of Mt Rushmore with St. Trayvon but Islam forbids representing the human form.

Posted by: Rabbithole Redux at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (QtQaN)

157 The biggest slave owners/murderers in history......Mao/Hitler/Stalin/NORKS/China, etc.

These are the Soro's left's heroes.

Insanity indeed.

Posted by: Cheri at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (oiNtH)

158
Let's replace every statue with the king of peace and love - Che

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (493sH)

159 otoh seems like you could get a deal nowadays on a cool Lee or Stonewall Jackson statue for your homecastle.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (nFwvY)

160 Incidentally, Gen. Custer is a hero where I grew up, which is the Crow Reservation in Montana
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That's a good point too. The American Indians were grouped into tribes that made war on each other - just like everywhere else in the world.

Pretending that they were all one united group is...wrong.

Hell, the reason Cortez conquered Mexico is that the tribes the Aztecs dominated would rather give Cortez their gold then Montezuma their people for human sacrifice...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (eSx+E)

161 Don't forget the historical illiteracy that blacks were 3/5ths a person.

No, dumbass. That's not it at all.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (oF/7l)

162 152

We need a new party. There's no time to reform the GOP.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (398bZ)

There's one being formed as we speak... bet on it..

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (zSVEm)

163 BTW, I saw on MSM headlines that "military leaders" rebuke trump on C-ville.

Fuck those guys. Trump should order each commander to issue a full report on the action that took place explaining when and where the violence occurred and what could've been done to stop it.

like not letting the police stand down.

Also, they have to account for the US Constitution, which they swore to defend, has enabled even N@@@@zis the right to gather.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (DQdye)

164 >>I mean, think through this - unlike Nazi Germany, or

the Soviet Union, or ISIS in their caliphate or the Taliban in A'stan -

THIS insane ignorant mob seeking revenge and indulging their racism and

illiteracy is different. Because.




These stupid college age-ish kids running around destroying stuff also reminds me of Nien Cheng's description of the groups of students going around and destroying people's art and antiques in "Life and Death in Shanghai."

One might consider that after they destroy the memorials they might set about destroying other bits of Confederate and/or founders' history in museums or private collections, etc. Trump was right to ask "Where does it end?" Learned it's best not to underestimate the lengths the Left will take a given issue...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (NOIQH)

165 Was the "Bishop" drunk or stoned when he wrote that? I've written more coherent emails when really drunk.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (/qEW2)

166 Unless the Right is going to stage sit ins and not move during every protest and take a fucking beating for the cameras to see, then I question their motives. Sit down and take a fucking beating. Do not strike back.

You must be willing to spill your own blood for the camera. This is the only way.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

167 The CEO of McDonalds on Maria grandstanding and spouting the approved narrative.


Crap. The McDouble is my favorite road sandwich.

Fine.

GoDaddy
UnderArmor
Netflix
Google
Walmart
McDonalds


On the bright side, I'm sure this is saving me money.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (LTHVh)

168 "Sally Hemings was raped."

First time I heard that. Was this by definition? I don't think the Jefferson womenfolk would put up with that.

There is no convincing evidence that Thomas Jefferson had sex with Sally. People who claim Jefferson did are projecting their morality, or lack of, on him.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (cfHE9)

169 "Bishop". These guys always love bestowing titles on themselves.

In many cases all it takes is 5 minutes to fill out a form and a postage stamp.

Posted by: The Oscar Mayer Weinermobile at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (vtcmf)

170 I'd also like to ask - where are all these veterans groups? Why aren't they outraged that American veterans memorials are being destroyed or are being called for destruction? Where's the American Legion? VFW? DAR? SAR? Wounded Warriors? Where the fuck are you? I can't do it by myself.

This is making me hit a level of rage I didn't think possible.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (vg8iE)

171 158
Let's replace every statue with the king of peace and love - Che

***

it's like how Rush started his show today, apparently the left and their press wants us to bend the knee at the idea that teh alt-left has absolute moral authority.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (DQdye)

172 When we warned about the logical conclusions of leftist thinking 30 years ago, we were told that we were crazy. It would never go that far. The progressives targeted universities for a reason. We have a group of university-educated people who feel that these beliefs are correct and moral because they lack the capacity for thinking. "Washington owned slaves, so he's bad," is the limit of their cognitive processing. What is amazing is that lack of understanding the prejudice and bigotry are not the problem. These are standard beliefs of humans who were tribal for 97% of human history. What is the problem is when those prejudices are in the law and enforced by the government. A baker is not a threat to gays, but a government that can shut down that bakery is. The KKK wasn't the threat; it was local law enforcement turning a blind eye to the KKK that made the movement effective at intimidating blacks. Similarly gun control laws that were written to keep guns out of black hands were necessary to keep blacks from protecting themselves. Minorities don't need to be tolerated, an incredibly insulting concept that assumes a superior group will put up with them. What makes America the greatest country in history is that the rights of every citizen are recognized as existing outside of state authority, and each of us is an equal inheritor of those rights. The left has a simple goal, divide and conquer. Look at Evergreen if you want to know what the world would look like with the left in power. Conservatives need to fight back with freedom and condemn any group that clamors for identity based rights, black, white, gay, female, etc. There is only one set of rights, and all US citizens have them.

Posted by: IanDeal at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (qcIL3)

173 >>>Please don't talk to me.

Sure, but I can't promise I remember this.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (Fnu13)

174 Thank you Al.. that's what I thought and YES.. sadly Trump has to spell every fucking thing out in specific detail.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (zRZaJ)

175 First, they came for the Confederate Battle Flag, and I said nothing, because I was not a "racist."

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (tbOMB)

176 the balkanization of america continues apace.

actually, blacks have been renaming schools and streets for 30-40 years, from washington or jefferson to m.l.king and garvey.

but this fragmentation occurs after a further disintegration of civic institutions that has been going on for far longer: the public schools, social organizations like rotary, religious attendance, etc.

now the social standard is what fad sweeps the internet for 30 seconds.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (AxFdW)

177 >>BTW, I saw on MSM headlines that "military leaders" rebuke trump on C-ville.


Eh, recall the huge purge/replacement of military leaders under Obama.
Assume that these are Obama allies whispering to the press.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (NOIQH)

178 137 They're going to replace the faces on Mount Rushmore with Rodney King, Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (xPl2J)


Whoaaa there Mugabe.

Posted by: B. Obama at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (mcI77)

179 If I destroy or deface these statues and monuments, history is changed! It never happened. Viola!


Damn I'm a genius!



Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (Enq6K)

180 If it will end the gang violence in Chicago, and bring peace to the city, then I say, tear down that statue.

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I am still trying to figure out where in Chicago a southern civil war person was memorialized.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (MIKMs)

181 One uses less profanity, fewer profanities.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (0mRoj)

182 Donald Trump, Truth-Speaker.

I would not have predicted that the man who would start calling out the hypocritical Left would be Donald Trump. Never in a million years would I have predicted he would be the voice of common sense and civic decency.

The world is indeed a wonderfully strange place.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (hLRSq)

183 Pretending that they were all one united group is...wrong.

Hell, the reason Cortez conquered Mexico is that the tribes the Aztecs dominated would rather give Cortez their gold then Montezuma their people for human sacrifice...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 16, 2017 01:16 PM (eSx+E)



Comrade, facts are an enemy of the agenda!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (493sH)

184
I recall seeing a story once, something about he who casts the first stone...

hmmm...wonder where.


Anyway I guess we better rename the state of Washington and the Nation's Capitol.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (r+sAi)

185 Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (vg8iE)

I know the feeling.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (zRZaJ)

186 George Washington Carver's name should be changed, too.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (yL25O)

187 And Booker T. Washington.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (yL25O)

188 >>Washington wasn't fighting against black Americans...he was fighting against the British, under whom slavery was legal. Posted by: 18-1 at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (eSx+E)

This is historically incorrect, citizen. Lord Dunmore, then governor of Virginia, offered Dunmore's Proclamation (1775), or freedom to any slave who fought on the side of the British against the hateful racist slave-owning George Washington and his hateful slave-owning allies.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (Bdeb0)

189 They're going to replace the faces on Mount Rushmore with Rodney King, Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Al Sharpton.

Hey! What about me?!

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (O5Q3r)

190 The gods of the conquered must always be destroyed and replaced with the gods of the conquerors. One wonders what our Hagia Sofia or Temple Mount will be, or if anyone will bother to resist at all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (P83tS)

191 Dems: being white is racist

GOP: We agree!

Posted by: MAGA at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (bPZjC)

192 Faster and faster in the widening gyre...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (3OIiX)

193 The thing is, this is the same country that kicked the left straight in the pills last November, shocking them into silence for hours straight. This is the same country that has for almost a decade pushed more and more Democrats out of office in state after state, over 1000 offices since Obama became President.

These guys are just loud and have a huge megaphone with the media, but they are small in number, isolated in situation, and confused by any different voice. Its like that kid in class who had an IQ of like 70 and yelled a lot. He seems to dominate the conversation but there are 29 other kids.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (39g3+)

194 166
Unless the Right is going to stage sit ins and not move during every
protest and take a fucking beating for the cameras to see, then I
question their motives. Sit down and take a fucking beating. Do not
strike back.



You must be willing to spill your own blood for the camera. This is the only way.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

What the fucking fuck?

Posted by: Zombie Patton at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (tbOMB)

195 @151 Trump under attack by The Early Knights.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (H5rtT)

196 okay, this is bugging me. Yesterday Trump said there were good people on both sides and THAT I think is where this shit storm is coming from. I know it was a white supremist group that asked for the permit but were there actually other, you know NORMAL people there as well? And is there any proof of that fact?
Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (zRZaJ)



There is quite literally nothing that Trump could have said apart from I, Mike Pence and Paul Ryan are resigning and our executions will be in one hour after which Orrin Hatch will appoint Hillary Clinton Vice President and then he will immediately step down and she will assume the Presidency that would have satisfied the baying mob.

I listened to what Trump said it was a completely, utterly anodyne statement wherein he was attempting to point out that all of this idiocy is being caused by a very very few number of people and that people on both the Left and the Right should not be lumped in with them.

There is nothing, not one single damn thing, that can satisfy people who interpret the question if Robert E. Lee statues must come down about Jefferson and Washington since they owned slaves as OMG TRUMP SAID LEE IS JUST LIKE JEFFERSON AND WASHINGTON.

So, yeah, I'm not really faulting Trump here.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (mf5HN)

197 170 I'd also like to ask - where are all these veterans groups? Why aren't they outraged that American veterans memorials are being destroyed or are being called for destruction? Where's the American Legion? VFW? DAR? SAR? Wounded Warriors? Where the fuck are you? I can't do it by myself.

This is making me hit a level of rage I didn't think possible.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (vg8iE)

It's Deep State all the way down.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (XMDuf)

198 btw: i just wanted to note the dave berry interview linked in the sidebar is really nice. he mentions "ace" in a complementary sense. it runs 1 hour and goes by fast. he's sane. it's refreshing. check it out.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (AxFdW)

199 One uses less profanity, fewer profanities.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (0mRoj)




Are you mansplaining?!?!?! Proper English a tool of the white patriarchy!!! Destroy it!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (493sH)

200 Alt-left: "all cultures are like equal, man"

All people "yay"

Alt-left "not so fast there, white people"

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (DQdye)

201 If I destroy or deface these statues and monuments, history is changed! It never happened. Viola!




They are gonna be in a world of hurt if they really try to erase the civil war.

Because if the Civil War didn't happen, slavery didn't happen.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (U76Nz)

202 "159 otoh seems like you could get a deal nowadays on a cool Lee or Stonewall Jackson statue for your homecastle."

The mayor of Hanceville, AL announced that the city would accept donated civil war statues from anywhere in the country. His intention is to place them in a new Memorial Park. That's actually a great idea, because there's not much to do in Hanceville.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (398bZ)

203 Can we get rid of all memorials to people who weren't for gay marriage too. I'm looking at you Rosa "Homophobe" Parks.

Posted by: scofflaw_x


This is an excellent point and one that bears repeating. The left seems to be saying that if this or that famous person had a character flaw, they should not be publically acknowledged in *any* way. So any statues or memorials to them should be torn down.

But *everyone* has character flaws. MLK was an adulterer and a plagiarist. So I guess we need to vandalize and destroy all statues of him as well? Do they really want to go there?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (/qEW2)

204 >>>recall the huge purge/replacement of military leaders under Obama

The one that didn't happen?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (Fnu13)

205 >>I listened to what Trump said it was a completely, utterly anodyne statement wherein he was attempting to point out that all of this idiocy is being caused by a very very few number of people and that people on both the Left and the Right should not be lumped in with them.

And he is exactly right.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (/tuJf)

206 O, wonder!
How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world,
That has such people in't!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (Nwg0u)

207 Most GOP Senators and Congressmen are cowards. They don't want to take the heat for telling the truth about the radical, demented left. They just want to keep their comfortable do-nothing positions so they can rake in the cash and pretend they are VIPs. I will shed no tears when the violent left finds shooters with better aim for Congressional softball practices.

Posted by: Denis with One Nutjob at August 16, 2017 01:22 PM (qYCgM)

208 Anyone else notice that the same logic used for the demands to pull down these statues could also be applied to calling for the abolishment of the DNC?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 16, 2017 01:22 PM (1ISKN)

209 n.b. i've cited dave berry here before and see some relationship to his humor. at times i've wondered if he's blogged here. has he?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 16, 2017 01:22 PM (AxFdW)

210 "I saw on MSM headlines"

ha ha ha and you believed them?

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:22 PM (cfHE9)

211 @192 "Turning and turning." You spelled gyre right.
And your falcon's deaf.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 01:22 PM (H5rtT)

212 201 They are gonna be in a world of hurt if they really try to erase the civil war.

Because if the Civil War didn't happen, slavery didn't happen.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (U76Nz)


If the Founders never existed, then Obama can waltz right back out and spew his "Muslims Founded America" bullshit over and over again.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (XMDuf)

213 But I thought The Early Knights were for Trumps.

That what I kept hearing.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (LTHVh)

214 OT:

John Cardillo on Twitter: Notice how there have been no significant White House leaks since Priebus was fired?

Hmmmm.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (HiDrR)

215 Unless the Right is going to stage sit ins and not move during every protest and take a fucking beating for the cameras to see, then I question their motives. Sit down and take a fucking beating. Do not strike back.

You must be willing to spill your own blood for the camera. This is the only way.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

yeah...that ain't me. That ain't meeee. I ain't no punching bag's son.

One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.

If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (3OIiX)

216 And he is exactly right.

-
That and $4.75 will get you a venti latte at Starbucks.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (Nwg0u)

217 When we warned about the logical conclusions of leftist thinking 30 years ago, we were told that we were crazy. It would never go that far.

+++

Fun fact: Commies dug up dead nuns and propped them in front of churches in the run up to the Spanish Civil War. Never put anything past them.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (hbfhp)

218 >>The mayor of Hanceville, AL announced that the
city would accept donated civil war statues from anywhere in the
country. His intention is to place them in a new Memorial Park. That's
actually a great idea, because there's not much to do in Hanceville. Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (398bZ)

The Hanceville Evil Garden of Shame and Hate And Stuff. Open daily, 10-6 p.m. Admission $5.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (Bdeb0)

219 #138 with a crucial, and relevant bit of historical reality.

I still recall my favorite all-time PBS "dead air" moment - and FFS this was in an edited, prepared documentary - was when an interviewer asked a descendant of a guide who worked with the 7th Cavalry (Paiute tribe?) why his ancestors cooperated with the US Army.

Guy looked at him with "are you f***ing kidding me??" look.

(paraphrasing) "Because the Lakota had been our enemies forever, taking our lands, killing us, enslaving us"

Of course, 95% of today's America would ask the same idiotic question.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (QDnY+)

220 Trump supposedly said there are good people on all sides.
Are there good people among the white supremacists?
I'm for Trump and his goals but -how does it help for our leader to say there are good people among those shouting
"slogans" against the evil Jooos?

Posted by: Glenn John at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (LilNs)

221 "We need a new party. There's no time to reform the GOP."

All politicians need to be primaried. That way they must go on record and they get to contemplate losing.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (cfHE9)

222 Are you mansplaining?!?!?! Proper English a tool of the white patriarchy!!! Destroy it!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (493sH)

OK, but first...

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (0mRoj)

223 okay, this is bugging me. Yesterday Trump said there were good people on both sides and THAT I think is where this shit storm is coming from. I know it was a white supremist group that asked for the permit but were there actually other, you know NORMAL people there as well? And is there any proof of that fact?
Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (zRZaJ)

I agree that's the one spot where he screwed up. Since we know that Trump is NOT a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer, I'm going to interpret what Trump meant. He was trying to make the point that there are a lot of "fine people" who don't want to see statues and monuments taken down and don't want to see history erased. I don't know that there were many--if any--of those people at the march, but I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (7uYFy)

224 I'm almost as popular as Moo Moo! It's working!

Posted by: Triumph the Insult Banana at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (vtcmf)

225 The Democrat Party was founded by slave owners.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (oVJmc)

226 They just want you to forget that the Democratic Party was the Confederacy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (LTHVh)

227 If you missed it, video of statue in Durham being gleefully desecrated: http://tinyurl.com/ydxhmu6n

Behold, Nazi Youth. Next up: Book burnings.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (OdK9v)

228
While we're at it lets just remove Lincoln from the Lincoln Memorial too, because if he had been rich enough he would have owned slaves.Just because he didn't plant cotton doesn't mean he should be off the hook.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (lKyWE)

229 I'm not either Alex..but most of the people watching have to be talked to like 6 year olds.. that's what I was really getting at.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (zRZaJ)

230
So, we're reliving Mao's Cultural Revolution now?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (mbhDw)

231 i think i'll find time to organize the ammo pile this weekend...

and re-arrange the toy boxes, so the historical stuff is not mixed in with the SHTF tools.

just because my AO is full of mouth breathing idiots who vote "correctly" won't stop the FSA from coming to this upscale area to take reparations...from individuals.

you watch, that sort of shit is coming soon.

and no, i'm not going to do squat for my anti-gun neighbors. they built this, they own it.


Posted by: redc1c4 at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (Z9sEA)

232 Eugenics racist supreme Margaret Sanger needs all PP clinics named after her torn down. Include the PP honors given to Hillary Clinton.

This is the left's alter to which they bow:

In The Pivot of Civilization, Sanger called African-Americans and immigrants "human weeds [and] reckless breeders, spawning... human beings who never should have been born." In Birth Control in America: The Career of Margaret Sanger, author David Kennedy wrote that in a 1923 speech, Sanger said couples who chose sterilization for the purpose of racial "purification" should be rewarded. One of Sanger's more infamous quotes is her admittance that she wants to "exterminate the Negro population."

Posted by: Cheri at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (oiNtH)

233 Today statues come down for racism. Maybe tomorrow books are destroyed for sexism. Maybe later people are destroyed for being on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (RD7QR)


You know who also burned books?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (hLRSq)

234 Divorce please.

Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (7HtZB)

235 211 @192 "Turning and turning." You spelled gyre right.
And your falcon's deaf.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 01:22 PM (H5rtT)

Thank you. His hearing was working fine, earlier. Maybe he doesn't WANT to hear me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (3OIiX)

236 >>That and $4.75 will get you a venti latte at Starbucks.

Trump has started the conversation and shined the light on these cockroaches. It's up to the rest of us to keep focusing on it.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (/tuJf)

237
I would just like to repeat a name: Washington Redskins.

Hahaaha ha. Double racists!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (r+sAi)

238 There was a pillar and statue of British Admiral Nelson, much like the one later erected in London's Trafalgar Square, which stood in downtown Dublin until it was blown up by the IRA in 1966. Before then, there had been lots of talk of taking it down. The likes of Joyce and Yeats defended keeping it up.

I believe Dublin poorer for this loss -- over a third of the sailors at the Battle of Trafalgar were Irish.

It's since been replaced by the Spire of Dublin -- "The Stiffy at the Liffey" / "The Stiletto in the Ghetto"



Posted by: Ignoramus at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (+7/1f)

239 The police had better start doing their job at shutting down these leftists, or someone else is going to start.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (7ZVPa)

240 American Bar Association Wants to Let Undocumented Immigrants Practice Law

Suck it whitey.

Posted by: B. Obama at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (mcI77)

241 I'd also like to ask - where are all these veterans groups?

They seem pretty upset but aren't getting any notice or coverage. Why? because the people with the megaphone are totally insane. They've lost their nut, completely.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (39g3+)

242 194 166
Unless the Right is going to stage sit ins and not move during every
protest and take a fucking beating for the cameras to see, then I
question their motives. Sit down and take a fucking beating. Do not
strike back.



You must be willing to spill your own blood for the camera. This is the only way.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

What the fucking fuck?
Posted by: Zombie Patton at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (tbOMB)

The soft center can't stand to see 100% peaceful pacifist people,getting killed and beat bloody on the streets. This is the only way. If you lift a finger to even defend yourself, you are doing exactly what the enemy wants.

Again I question the motives of right wing protesters who defend themselves. Take a fucking beating like a man for the cameras and the soft center will begin to sympathize with your cause.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (XFue2)

243 27 Isn't destruction of history something a conquering culture does to the conquered?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (XFue2)
___________________

Hey, I told you several years ago that Barack would not let you go back to your usual lives. I told you he would make you change your culture, your traditions, your history.

Why didn't you believe me?

Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (HZrjw)

244 215 Unless the Right is going to stage sit ins and not move during every protest and take a fucking beating for the cameras to see, then I question their motives. Sit down and take a fucking beating. Do not strike back.

You must be willing to spill your own blood for the camera. This is the only way.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

yeah...that ain't me. That ain't meeee. I ain't no punching bag's son.

One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.

If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (3OIiX)


Lots and lots of Christians throughout history did not turn the other cheek.... as a result, there is Christianity in our time, and practicing Christians, who are able to say " turn the other cheek"..

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (zSVEm)

245 Um, #207 with an inarguable proposition, paired with a sentiment we don't tolerate. Just a note to ace or any cob.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (QDnY+)

246 So, we're reliving Mao's Cultural Revolution now?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (mbhDw)



Right down to the show trials and public beatings

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (493sH)

247 >>In The Pivot of Civilization, Sanger called African-Americans and
immigrants "human weeds [and] reckless breeders, spawning... human
beings who never should have been born."



Nope, she's a civil rights hero.
According to the Smithsonian.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (NOIQH)

248 As long as the word "Nazi" keeps getting thrown around, J-Street is going to keep pushing the GOPe to throw everybody under Antifa's bus, lest the donations all dry up.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (XMDuf)

249 George Washington Carver's name should be changed, too.

Posted by: TexasDan


Jimmy Carver?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (/qEW2)

250 Conservatives need to fight back with freedom and condemn any group that clamors for identity based rights, black, white, gay, female, etc. There is only one set of rights, and all US citizens have them.
Posted by: IanDeal at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (qcIL3)



All of this.

But with more lick the sole of my boot you twatling limp dicked goat rimmers.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (mf5HN)

251 Donald Trump, Truth-Speaker.

I would not have predicted that the man who would start calling out the hypocritical Left would be Donald Trump. Never in a million years would I have predicted he would be the voice of common sense and civic decency.

The world is indeed a wonderfully strange place.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (hLRSq)


To paraphrase Lonesome Dove's Augustus McCrae: Sometimes we place our hopes in some unlikely vessels.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (y7DUB)

252 Oh, I say let's allow these folk having the temper tantrums over Mt. Rushmore to be the ones who are lowered down from above with hammers to start the destruction. It'll be so sad when none of those harnesses turns out to be anchored correctly

Posted by: dwagyak at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (Wh3xA)

253 Ignorant fool.

Posted by: Strobe at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (gbWkA)

254 28 When will the Egyptian Pyramids be torn down?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (GQn43)

===

That may not be for a while, but Memphis, TN and Cairo, IL must be renamed immediately because the ancient Egyptians had slaves. Same treatment is needed for Rome, GA; Syracuse, NY; Carthage, TX; and on and on and...

Posted by: Gref at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (AMIL/)

255 So, we're reliving Mao's Cultural Revolution now?

--

Yes. All intellectuals report to the rice paddies.

Posted by: H. Mann Lee at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (m9X4Y)

256 we're reliving Mao's Cultural Revolution now?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (mbhDw)

That's a conspiracy theory. You're fired!

Posted by: H R.R.R. MacMaster at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (XFue2)

257 150 Thirty days food and water.

If you don't have that stocked up ... consider it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2017 01:15 PM (ISejo)

And ammo. Don't forget ammo. Lots of it. For all the calibers in your house.

Crap, need to get more 9mm and 12G 00 buck

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (jxbfJ)

258 So, we're reliving Mao's Cultural Revolution now?

We're a couple of years in, I think. We're just slow starters.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (oVJmc)

259 The soft center can't stand to see 100% peaceful pacifist people,getting killed and beat bloody on the streets.

If the MFM doesn't show it, did it happen?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (LTHVh)

260 "Are there good people among the white supremacists? "

Yes there are. Feed their families. Go to Church. See all the death and destruction handed out by people who would starve to death if it wasn't for Christian Society.

Are there good people among black supremacist? Don't know. My unsupported belief is that all black supremacist are being supported by federal subsidies.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (cfHE9)

261 I hope Zombie is either lying low or is getting good photos.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (3OIiX)

262
Trump supposedly said there are good people on all sides.Are there good people among the white supremacists? I'm for Trump and his goals but -how does it help for our leader to say there are good people among those shouting "slogans" against the evil Jooos?
Posted by: Glenn John at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (LilNs)


When he said side he probably was refering to people who don't want to see Confederate Memorials removed.they're not all white supremacist or neo-nazis.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (lKyWE)

263 Oregon wants to change the names of schools, buildings, etc., named "Lynch" because it has supposed racist connotations.
______

Oh, shit! There goes the "Lynch-Slick Willie Memorial Airport."

Posted by: Now under investigation, but I dindunuffin!) at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (tpghi)

264 gee, trump's verbal cadence is to offer both sides their humanity.

just as obama's verbal cadence would do the errr, uh, both sides offer extreme positions but we chose the middle.

so what?

I assume there's like a media firestorm and lefties are throwing around the term "racist" but so what? They did that all throughout 2016.

I hope the GOP leadership is aware that the alt-left is a violent group of thugs and the real violence in the real world has come from BLM, muzzies, antifas, rent a riots, and mainstream lefties like James Mcfatfuckface.

San Bernado, Dallas, Alexandria, and Baltimore.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (DQdye)

265 @235 Some rough beast is slouching.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 01:29 PM (H5rtT)

266 I'm pretty sure the end point of this all is a wholesale memory wipe, followed by an approved set of new memories.

Now before you pooh pooh this idea, citizens, consider this -- Utopia is just around the corner. Besides, it's mandatory.

Posted by: GnuBreed, still deplorable after all these months at August 16, 2017 01:29 PM (6jaju)

267 This is the left's alter to which they bow:

In The Pivot of Civilization, Sanger called African-Americans and immigrants "human weeds [and] reckless breeders, spawning... human beings who never should have been born." In Birth Control in America: The Career of Margaret Sanger, author David Kennedy wrote that in a 1923 speech, Sanger said couples who chose sterilization for the purpose of racial "purification" should be rewarded. One of Sanger's more infamous quotes is her admittance that she wants to "exterminate the Negro population."
Posted by: Cheri



Needs repeating far and wide. Repeatedly.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:29 PM (U76Nz)

268 "Turning and turning." You spelled gyre right.
And your falcon's deaf.

Posted by: Stringer Davis
------------

Heh. Which reminds me. As a car guy you've probably seen this, an Oldie But Goldie, Falcon nesting in tree :

http://tinyurl.com/kjfgpho

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2017 01:29 PM (OdK9v)

269 One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.
If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster.


Well, to throw a proper punch, have your feet set, twist at the waist for good leverage, lower your shoulder as you turn your cheek, and aim the punch 1 inch farther then the connection point.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 16, 2017 01:29 PM (r+sAi)

270 220 Trump supposedly said there are good people on all sides.
Are there good people among the white supremacists?
I'm for Trump and his goals but -how does it help for our leader to say there are good people among those shouting
"slogans" against the evil Jooos?

Posted by: Glenn John at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (LilNs)

I went to Hermann Park when there was a supposed threat for a protest to remove the statue of Sam Houston. Unfortunately the alt Right groups were also there.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:29 PM (mleV+)

271 228
While we're at it lets just remove Lincoln from the Lincoln Memorial too, because if he had been rich enough he would have owned slaves.Just because he didn't plant cotton doesn't mean he should be off the hook.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (lKyWE)
___________________

Lincoln believed that blacks were inferior to whites. That's reason enough.

You don't need to be a slave owner to be a target of the left. Teddy Roosevelt didn't own slaves, but he said insensitive things about Native Americans, so he has to go. Woodrow Wilson kept blacks out of Princeton, and said mean things about immigrants, so he has to go.

Old Abe was a white supremacist, so clearly there's no good reason to keep him around.

There won't be anybody -- or at least anybody white -- who can pass the left's moral purity test.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (HZrjw)

272 We know where this ends.

And yet we talk ourselves into sitting and watching it happen.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (P83tS)

273 >>Discrete items (like words): Fewer. Continuous units (like water): less.


Fewer chickens, less chicken.


That should make it completely clear, right??!!

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (wwL6Q)

274 then again, you right wingers are going to do nothing, sit by, and let it happen. Or else you may get doxxed or publicly shamed. Sucks to be us.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (DQdye)

275 We need a new party.

-
I hope they've got some sweet drugs 'cause we gonna need 'em.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (Nwg0u)

276 The soft center can't stand to see 100% peaceful
pacifist people,getting killed and beat bloody on the streets. This is
the only way. If you lift a finger to even defend yourself, you are
doing exactly what the enemy wants.



Again I question the motives of right wing protesters who defend
themselves. Take a fucking beating like a man for the cameras and the
soft center will begin to sympathize with your cause.





Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (XFue2)

F that. There is another way. They don't get to dictate such terms of engagement and then walk away, and I will leave it at that. And if you believe that the media will do us any favors, then I refer to you to the events of the last few years.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (tbOMB)

277 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 16, 2017 01:29 PM (r+sAi)

Aim for the ear.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (mleV+)

278 Jewels45, please listen to Trump's entire press conference yesterday. He said normal people having nothing to do with antifa, blm, nazis & white supremacists were there to protest the removal of statues & the attempt to erase history. He specifically talked about the protest the night before that was completely peaceful and had pro/con statue removal people there. Trump speaks plain English. Go listen to the source.

And everyone stop adding to the mischaracterization of extreme left vs extreme right. It's extreme left vs extreme left.
Antifa/Blm vs nazis/white supremacists is MARXISTS vs SOCIALISTS. Call it what it is & don't let the new speak triumph.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (pRutV)

279 just because my AO is full of mouth breathing idiots who vote "correctly" won't stop the FSA from coming to this upscale area to take reparations...from individuals.

you watch, that sort of shit is coming soon.

and no, i'm not going to do squat for my anti-gun neighbors. they built this, they own it.


Posted by: redc1c4 at August 16, 2017 01:24 PM (Z9sEA)


One of the benefits of where I live: I'm outside of the city and behind a fence. If someone tries to break in, I can pick them off and retreat into the orchards.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (Tnhbr)

280 "American Bar Association Wants to Let Undocumented Immigrants Practice Law"

They don't handle licensing and are a voluntary organization so they can mouth off on anything they want to. No real responsibilities results in that.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (hLRSq)

281 Unless the Right is going to stage sit ins and not move during every
protest and take a fucking beating for the cameras to see, then I
question their motives. Sit down and take a fucking beating. Do not
strike back.



You must be willing to spill your own blood for the camera. This is the only way.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

What the fucking fuck?
Posted by: Zombie Patton at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (tbOMB)

The soft center can't stand to see 100% peaceful pacifist people,getting killed and beat bloody on the streets. This is the only way. If you lift a finger to even defend yourself, you are doing exactly what the enemy wants.

Again I question the motives of right wing protesters who defend themselves. Take a fucking beating like a man for the cameras and the soft center will begin to sympathize with your cause.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (XFue2)

So if they kill me, I win?

Pull the other one. It has bells on it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (3OIiX)

282 Are there good people among the white supremacists?

It depends on what you mean by 'good' here. All of us are sinful wretches on God's scale. Nobody is good, not one. In terms of neighbors and pals, just about anyone can be good. Stalin was nice to his friends, he treated the guy that ran the movies for his family like a son. I imagine there are likable, interesting people among the Klan and La Raza both, in black supremacists and Taliban. As long as you avoid certain topics and ideas you probably can get along fine, with some of them.

Not everyone in that protest was from the Klan or Antifa, for that matter. There were just people there rallying to work together for a better america or just to oppose the moron klansmen that showed up. Those are the people Trump was talking about.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (39g3+)

283 Of course, this means the Statue of Lenin, a 16-foot (4.9 m) bronze sculpture of Communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin located in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle, Washington, is doomed too.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (ckI7j)

284 *sigh*

Corgis?

Where are you corgis?

That's all I'm asking for today.

(Let's build a Corgi statue and see what reason they will find to tear it down.)

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (UdcF7)

285 So, we're reliving Mao's Cultural Revolution now?

--

Yes. All intellectuals report to the rice paddies.
Posted by: H. Mann Lee at August 16, 2017 01:27 PM (m9X4Y)


Yay! The Horde is safe!

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (mf5HN)

286 Why aren't we seeing the polls showing Trump plummeting in popularity?... I'm sure they are coming, but it's taking them way more time than usual...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (O2RFr)

287 266 I'm pretty sure the end point of this all is a wholesale memory wipe, followed by an approved set of new memories.

Now before you pooh pooh this idea, citizens, consider this -- Utopia is just around the corner. Besides, it's mandatory.

****

remember, this is happening because:

1. the south stopped voting democrat.

2. the dnc needed new non-american voters.

3. the dnc thinks it can whip up its base and shame the GOP on this.

there is no coherent thought about history or anything else.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (DQdye)

288 THIS IS CRITICAL THEORY IN ACTION.

It's Academia's technique to pick apart Western Civ, find the flaws, and then destroy it for any imperfection.

Total nihilism, all in service to the eventual Marxist Utopia.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (oVJmc)

289 No different than isis in removing history they don't agree with.

Here's a little riddle for you:

I am Protestant. Yet I enjoy visiting ancient Roman Catholic cathedrals as well as Anglican cathedrals in the UK and Europe. I have no desire to destroy them or remove their presence as I am not offended.

I guess we should be offended by the UK, as they once made us fight a war for freedom. We should, sarcasm, deport all British and the bust of Winston Churchill.

I am not offended by much of anything except this type of cowardice response to a group of offended people. So, now, we are offended by the Founding Fathers...who, by virtue of the times, had slaves. I guess the offended do not notice it is currently 2017 and, legally, no US citizen owns slaves.

How are they going to answer to the slave trade in isis in 2017. Does that offend them? Human trafficking of women, kidnapped across the globe, to be sex slaves. Does that offend them? Oh, wait, not their narrative.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Infidel Queen, is tired of dis at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (J5mzk)

290 276 F that. There is another way. They don't get to dictate such terms of engagement and then walk away, and I will leave it at that. And if you believe that the media will do us any favors, then I refer to you to the events of the last few years.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (tbOMB)

Not only that. Anybody going out and telling people that they need to submit to being killed needs to be willing to set the example themselves, first.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (XMDuf)

291 Better than the calling out but subtler
Did you notice that Trump managed to get the reporter to admit that Antifa was Leftist? And Trump repeated that he said it. In the context, it matters.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (hbfhp)

292 And ammo. Don't forget ammo. Lots of it. For all the calibers in your house.



Preloaded mags help. Don't forget the mags.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (mcI77)

293 >>>I'd also like to ask - where are all these veterans groups?

Sons of Confederate Veterans put out a statement condemning both groups for using a hallowed monument for their dickery. Except they used nicer words than 'dickery'.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (Fnu13)

294 "I'm pretty sure the end point of this all is a wholesale memory wipe, followed by an approved set of new memories."

That was used in a Larry Niven book.

It is also how the outer space aliens supposedly operate.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 01:32 PM (cfHE9)

295 We know where this ends.

And yet we talk ourselves into sitting and watching it happen.
==========

Yep. Then we are going to wonder where the fucking country went.

But I guess the Bruno Mars concert next week is more important or little Susie's ballet recital this weekend, or the NFL pre-season, maybe Chuck and Sue will bring that delicious pasta salad her mom makes to our cookout on Labor Day. Then we can all be together to bemoan the loss of the country!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (vg8iE)

296 Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:05 PM (mf5HN)


*sniff* That was beautiful, m'am.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (bIwZ6)

297 When he said side he probably was refering to people who don't want to see Confederate Memorials removed.they're not all white supremacist or neo-nazis.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:28 PM (lKyWE)


Exactly. I'm convinced that Kessler scammed a bunch of people of conscience to protest tearing down historical artifacts without sufficient input from citizens. Then when they got there and found themselves surrounded by plants and dickweeds, there was a quick WTF moment wondering how screwed they were.

Too bad we can't count on the MFM to look into that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (y7DUB)

298 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

Was there a sarcasm tag there because I missed it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (mleV+)

299 269 "One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.
If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster."

My father was a great Christian man. Walked the walk he talked. He also said, "Son, you only have 2 cheeks."

Posted by: Derptastic at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (DB16e)

300 The Civil Rights movement in the south was successful because of non-violence in the face of violence which cameras recorded. Plus cities in the south who survived the civil rights movements trained their police to not react to provocations and to stand down.

This strategy works. Cloward Piven are not hacks. The media is not on our side so their audience is not either. The only way to get the audience on our side is to take beatings on camera. Prove that the Marxists are the violent ones.

It takes a strong soul to take a beating and sacrifice for the larger goal.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (XFue2)

301 The Hate of the Left is for America.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (oVJmc)

302 Nazis and Commies are both leftists. Please don't forget that. They are just fighting over if the revolution in nationalist or internationalist socialism.

Posted by: Strobe at August 16, 2017 01:34 PM (gbWkA)

303 Nuke the USA from orbit, it's the only way to be sure this disease doesn't spread.

Posted by: Mostly Harmless Lurker in you backyard at night at August 16, 2017 01:34 PM (1L9V9)

304 History should be seen as an advancement (or decline) of certain ideals, by imperfect men.

In much of the world life was very hard, and people gave themselves over to kings or warlords. The peasantry are often treated as slaves or cattle. The Irish were said to be used for work that was too dangerous to risk a slave's life. Perhaps the Irish had more freedom then, but they took the work rather than starve.

The sort of liberty we have today is a relatively new concept. The concept that an individual is so "free" that they have the right to force someone else to feed/house and care for them ... is not liberty, but dependence and forced oppression of the taxpayer.

Certainly the chained slave is a horrible concept, but tyranny can be as vicious or worse. Perspective is hard, especially for the ignorant on the welfare dole that have life so easy compared to those living 250 years ago. Starvation never crosses their little minds.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 16, 2017 01:34 PM (7Ep0P)

305 (Let's build a Corgi statue and see what reason they will find to tear it down.)
Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (UdcF7)



I will set the world aflame.

Also, please, that one is easy. The Queen of England is the most famous owner and breeder of corgis and, c'mon, do I even need to spell out why anything associated with the Queen has to go?

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:34 PM (mf5HN)

306 273 >>Discrete items (like words): Fewer. Continuous units (like water): less.


Fewer chickens, less chicken.


That should make it completely clear, right??!!
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (wwL6Q)

*bookmarking*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:34 PM (3OIiX)

307 And for all you "bleed for the camera " folks, WHAT IN GOD'S NAME MAKES YOU THINK ANYONE WILL SEE IT?

Are you really that thick?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at August 16, 2017 01:34 PM (P83tS)

308 One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.

If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:23 PM (3OIiX)


Lots and lots of Christians throughout history did not turn the other cheek.... as a result, there is Christianity in our time, and practicing Christians, who are able to say " turn the other cheek"..
Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (zSVEm)


There's a difference between turning the other cheek, and groveling. The former is designed to end the cycle of violence and retribution so often seen throughout history.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 16, 2017 01:35 PM (Tnhbr)

309 297 Exactly. I'm convinced that Kessler scammed a bunch of people of conscience to protest tearing down historical artifacts without sufficient input from citizens. Then when they got there and found themselves surrounded by plants and dickweeds, there was a quick WTF moment wondering how screwed they were.

Too bad we can't count on the MFM to look into that.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (y7DUB)

There's been no doubt in my mind since Kessler's name came out that that's EXACTLY what it was.

This whole thing was a trap to sucker people in and lead them into the waiting Bats, Clubs, and Wasp-Spray-Flamethrowers of Antifa.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:35 PM (XMDuf)

310
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (HZrjw)


You are correct.The country of Liberia ( I believe ) was created by a program first b purposed by Lincoln to repatriate freed slaves to their native Africa

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:35 PM (lKyWE)

311 fuck these lunatics. The left gave their brownshirts spaces to destroy and are blaming it on mainstream republicans. Go figure.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 01:35 PM (DQdye)

312 298 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

Was there a sarcasm tag there because I missed it.
Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (mleV+)


Oh boy. Using Sarcasm is about as dangerous as shittin' in a beehive.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2017 01:35 PM (ISejo)

313 Interesting thing about the Crow Scouts who rode with Custer: just before Little Bighorn after they informed Custer that they were riding into a trap one of Custer's officers noticed them saying funeral rites and putting on warpaint. The scouts stated that they were preparing to die. The officer apparently viewed it as damaging morale, so he sent them away. Supposedly that's one of the reasons the scouts survived. They were willing to fight and die with Custer at Little Bighorn.

Oh, and Pepe, what good will it do to have antifa kick your ass and blind you if the media won't show it!

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (Svogv)

314
Needs repeating far and wide. Repeatedly.
Posted by: rickb223
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Every time some Lib begins to maunder on about how they think conservatives refuse to accept Darwin, and how his theory is the embodiment of science, I ask them if they fully embrace his theory. They of course wax enthusiastic in replying "Yes, of course"!

I then point out that the full title is, 'On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life'

That generally leads to a moment of confused silence. I surprised they don't strip a mental cog.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (OdK9v)

315 Hey, I told you several years ago that Barack would
not let you go back to your usual lives. I told you he would make you
change your culture, your traditions, your history.
Why didn't you believe me? Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 16, 2017 01:25 PM (HZrjw)
=====

Of the two, M irritates me even more. She and her brother were unbelievably privileged compared to any mediocre and poorer white kids and she is still attempting to peddle her 'struggles with racism'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (MIKMs)

316 299 269 "One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.
If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster."

Am more of an eye for an eye kind of Gal

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (O2RFr)

317 >>>THIS IS CRITICAL THEORY IN ACTION.

The left creates these systems with all these pompous buzzwords ("intersectionality", etc.) that allow the leftist to feel flattered that he's mastered a sophisticated philosophy.

But really, all leftist systematization is designed to prey on the stupidity of people. It's nothing but a con job with bombastic terms.

It uses false dichotomies and hoaxes to con people, and when those fail, emotional bullying, and violence.

There is no solution except teach children to think carefully about moral questions so they won't be duped.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (/qEW2)

318 I guess this means no more reruns of "The Jeffersons"

Posted by: OCBill at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (df+Zi)

319 Of course, this means the Statue of Lenin, a 16-foot (4.9 m) bronze sculpture of Communist revolutionary Vladimir Lenin located in the Fremont neighborhood of Seattle, Washington, is doomed too.

Shirley, you jest. They'll be putting flowers and candles around it soon. With armed guards to prevent any disparaging comments.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (bIwZ6)

320 **TARGET ACQUIRED** AOSHQ SERVER FARM

Posted by: UAV Running Disposition Matrix 2.0 at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (mcI77)

321 Thanks bebe... I guess I missed it. With all the shouting going on in the background!!

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (zRZaJ)

322 298 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17 PM (XFue2)

Was there a sarcasm tag there because I missed it.
Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (mleV+)

Fine go out and start shedding the blood of that group. We will lose.

This is not war yet, so why are you advocating using tactics employed during wartime.

The goal is to win the soft center, and we don't have the soft center. So every defensive measure taken that spills the blood of Marxists will be framed and reported on as aggressive acts of violence by nationalists.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (XFue2)

323 310
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 16, 2017 01:30 PM (HZrjw)


You are correct.The country of Liberia ( I believe ) was created by a program first b purposed by Lincoln to repatriate freed slaves to their native Africa
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:35 PM (lKyWE)

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Lincoln didn't have anything to do with it IIRC. Liberia was founded in the 1820 or 1830s I think.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (Svogv)

324 On a bad day, I wonder if there's much fight left in Conservatism... intellectual as well as physical... what I see, on those bad days, is a lot of frustration, confusion, and demoralization... and a lack of moral leadership that could unite US, and encourage us to do our own resisting...
On a bad day, the Right just seems to be watered down...

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (zSVEm)

325 "The Stiffy at the Liffey"


A drunk irish tourist's (BIRM) guidepost home to the hotel.

Posted by: IP at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (UmSfZ)

326 American Bar Association Wants to Let Undocumented Immigrants Practice Law

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Inmates run the asylum. Criminals run the courts. Makes sense.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:38 PM (Nwg0u)

327 The Queen of England is the most famous owner and breeder of corgis and, c'mon, do I even need to spell out why anything associated with the Queen has to go?

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:34 PM (mf5HN)


I know, right? She goes by "queen" and isn't even a gay man! Or transgender!

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 01:38 PM (6mJ8T)

328 Lots and lots of Christians throughout history did not turn the other cheek.... as a result, there is Christianity in our time, and practicing Christians, who are able to say " turn the other cheek"..
Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2017 01:26 PM (zSVEm)

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I will be the heretic fighting for Christians who want to practice their Christianity.

Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 01:38 PM (Fmupd)

329 Posted by: Widespread Pepe

So.

Lie back and think of England?

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (eytER)

330 Someone should put these "activists" the knowledge that Mohammed, Peas be Upon Him, was a slave owner.

Cordially...

Posted by: Rick at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (LfjXG)

331 Let me know when they start clamoring to remove these markers:

http://www.paulridenour.com/markers.htm

Posted by: Country Singer at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (uiwCw)

332 "One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.
If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster."


Weakness isn't what Christianity is about. This here Christian will defend himself and his family and have no qualms about it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (bIwZ6)

333 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:33 PM (XFue2)

You think in your wildest dreams that white people will ever be considered victims except to other white people of the same political thought. You're comparison to the Civil Rights movement is like comparing apples to orangutans.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (mleV+)

334 326 American Bar Association Wants to Let Undocumented Immigrants Practice Law

-
Inmates run the asylum. Criminals run the courts. Makes sense.
Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:38 PM (Nwg0u)

Just to be clear, the ABA is a voluntary professional association with influence but not power. I've never been a member because they're run by a bunch of left-wing assholes.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (0mRoj)

335 Suck my girl dick.

That is a classic line. I wish I had a girl dick so I could use that line.

Posted by: Mike at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (c056A)

336 Mikey NTH, actually, I believe illegal alien lawyers are allowed to work in court (be "officers of the court") in CA. Seriously.

Cicero here? He could probably confirm.

Yeah - there's a system with legitimacy, not just power - "courts" that allow criminals to be their officers.

I wasn't the only one laughing during the video they showed to the large holding area on my last jury-duty call. It's sickening, really. All these nice, formerly true things about America's judicial system, being touted in a somewhat gauzy video. Several people who chuckled - and quickly stifled it - looked around at each other.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (QDnY+)

337 The Civil Rights movement in the south was successful because of non-violence in the face of violence which cameras recorded.

and the FBI, Federal Marshalls and the National Guard.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)

338 >>>The goal is to win the soft center, and we don't have the soft center

I have a soft center!

Posted by: Lena Dunham FUPA at August 16, 2017 01:40 PM (EbJSg)

339 Suck my girl dick.

That is a classic line. I wish I had a girl dick so I could use that line.
========

I guess this is the part where if I had a dick, I'd tell you to suck it.

Posted by: Betty White at August 16, 2017 01:40 PM (vg8iE)

340 Why aren't we seeing the polls showing Trump plummeting in popularity?... I'm sure they are coming, but it's taking them way more time than usual...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:31 PM (O2RFr)


"This is Bob Hairpiece and Sunny Facelift at the 24 Hour Outrage Desk. A new poll has come out for Donald Trump and it isn't good for him, is it?"
"Hi Bob, no it isn't a poll of the Outtrage Desk's break room shows deep loathing for Donald Trump and a desire he spearhead NASA's outreach program to the crab nebula by 95% with 5% saying that isn't far enough. Also, Derek the mail boy is upset that Trump resembles Cheetos as he is no longer able to eat them."
"That's evil, separating a geeky pimple faced anime obsessed loser form his only friend and snack food. Coming up - suggestions for fumigating the world of all things Trump by the Berkeley High Times and Bikelock Appreciation Society."

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 16, 2017 01:40 PM (hLRSq)

341 322 The goal is to win the soft center, and we don't have the soft center. So every defensive measure taken that spills the blood of Marxists will be framed and reported on as aggressive acts of violence by nationalists.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (XFue2)

You're asking people to die for you.

But you'll survive, of course.

You'll persuade nobody.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:40 PM (XMDuf)

342
Remove Wilson from the $100,000 bill. Not the candy bar.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2017 01:40 PM (IqV8l)

343 >>>Lie back and think of England?

Lie back and think of Bobby Knight?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Fnu13)

344 193). I think you are right. It's gonna be a beat down in the 2018 elections . And. If not It is over and go find a happy secluded space

Posted by: Big swingin Al at August 16, 2017 01:41 PM (8WS2E)

345 Someone should put these "activists" the knowledge that Mohammed, Peas be Upon Him, was a slave owner.

Then they will have to tear down all the Mohammed Statues!

Wait ...

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:41 PM (LTHVh)

346 Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (Svogv)

Monrovia could be a hint.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:41 PM (mleV+)

347 I thank God every day that my ancestors were kicked out of every decent country in Europe and made their way to America.

Posted by: Strobe at August 16, 2017 01:42 PM (gbWkA)

348 It's wholesale insanity...except it is not.

I have to keep reminding myself of the plan behind all this crap. This is orchestrated. Or people are being used & exploited like widgets. This is a different war we are in.

End goal is to get rid of Trump & re-establish the power base of the status quo.

And they need people in streets wIth guns and chaos to do it.

Some they can easily get. The center is holding, so they are gonna keep adding fire. I' m not gonna play. I'm taking the long view. And I'll use my phone to call Congress members.

But war over some stone? Or the antics of nut jobs? No.

Is this how I feel? No. I'm incensed.

But it is what I think.

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 16, 2017 01:42 PM (UdcF7)

349 I'm trying to figure out how a father would frame this.

"Dad, that guy hit you over the head with a bat. Are you OK?"

"Yeah, and some photographer saw it happen. It's all good."

"But you told me to stand up for my beliefs and especially against bullies."

"Um..."

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 16, 2017 01:42 PM (eytER)

350 >>
(Let's build a Corgi statue and see what reason they will find to tear it down.)



"Oh, I'm sure they'll think of something..."

--- Wall Street Bull statue

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:42 PM (NOIQH)

351 "Mikey NTH, actually, I believe illegal alien lawyers are allowed to work in court (be "officers of the court") in CA. Seriously."

California can set up their own rules for who can represent whom in their courts. The ABA has no authority in anything and can be ignored or attended to depending on how bored you are.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 16, 2017 01:42 PM (hLRSq)

352 >>The Civil Rights movement in the south was successful because of non-violence in the face of violence which cameras recorded.

It worked because the media was sympathetic to their cause. They are not sympathetic to ours and either won't film stuff as they haven't been doing or just not air it which they also are doing.

Look at the violence in Berkeley, armed antifa thugs battering unarmed men and women. The media was there. They filmed it and aired it briefly? You seen much sympathy from that?

Nope, the only way we are going to win this is by doing exactly what Trump is doing, rejecting their narrative and pushing back hard.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (/tuJf)

353 Oh, and Pepe, what good will it do to have antifa kick your ass and blind you if the media won't show it!

Kenneth Gladney.

Black man beaten by the Left for being outside a 2009 heathcare town hall.

The media covered up his story, the union thugs escaped conviction.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (oVJmc)

354 Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM (Svogv)

They will have to report on it if we are the only people getting assaulted. You get dozens of people injured and the media has to report it at some point.

All it takes is on Marxist injured. That's all.

Either take a page from the 60's, use it against them, and take a beating. OR flat out declare war and get the Civil War stared.

You can't deploy hot war tactics in this situation. It's one thing to talk big on the internet but another thing to do it.

Plenty of people had to take beatings to advance a cause, yet somehow our side is above it. That's pretty fucking weak.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (XFue2)

355 The goal is to win the soft center, and we don't have the soft center.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (XFue2)


I don't think that's the goal anymore.

The Center just wants it all to stop. And, per usual, they'll insist that the weaker side submit. Because the stronger side won't listen.

Start showing up and taking an ass-whipping ? Next demand from the Center will be to stop showing up.

Start showing up and winning.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (ISejo)

356 I'm old enough to remember when teh gheys put eyeshadow, lipstick and rouge on that CC statue. BLM ain't as artistic.

Posted by: Monkfish at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (7ciu+)

357 332 "One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.
If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster."

Weakness isn't what Christianity is about. This here Christian will defend himself and his family and have no qualms about it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2017 01:39 PM (bIwZ6

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That quote has been taken out of context so much. It has more to do with making your enemy treat you as an equal. Combine that with "Sell your cloak and buy a sword" and the teachings of Christ are less "Let tyrants and scum kill you at will" and more "Don't start a fight, but if they want a war with you, finish it."

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:44 PM (Svogv)

358 Christ also kicked the asses of a bunch of moneychangers and had his disciples be armed.

Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2017 01:44 PM (cAnNx)

359 I guess this means no more reruns of "The Jeffersons"




Sorry. I'm not going to be able to watch it on my Chinese slave made tv.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:44 PM (U76Nz)

360 This is like the campaign. MSM are going all in to drive down Trump's support. But at the cost of their long-term credibility. Trump can recover because of FACTS. MSM won't.

This will galvanize Trump's base, which will drive turnout in 2018 and 2020.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 16, 2017 01:44 PM (+7/1f)

361 You know who else was a slave owner, but a lot of people (at least the ones who comment at Insty's site) don't seem to know it?

Ben Franklin.

That's right, Franklin the great abolitionist, owned slaves for most of his adult life. They were house slaves, not field slaves, but they were still slaves. Purchased by Ben and his wife as property, and without the liberty to choose how to live their own lives.

In the latter part of his life, Ben gave one of his slaves to his daughter, and he revised his will to free his two remaining slaves, Peter and Jemima, on his death. Unfortunately for Peter and Jemima, they died a few years before Ben, so his gesture ended up being meaningless. Peter and Jemima died as they had lived -- slaves owned by Ben Franklin, Abolitionist.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 16, 2017 01:44 PM (HZrjw)

362 It is true that the general public is more sympathetic toward victims of brutality than people who fight back. Its confusing to them when they get their information from the left, when people fight back.

Its impossible to get away with portraying people beaten bloody and attacked as the aggressors. But when both sides are beat up, you can always spin it as "right wing crazies attack peaceful antifa"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:44 PM (39g3+)

363 "252 Oh, I say let's allow these folk having the temper tantrums over Mt. Rushmore to be the ones who are lowered down from above with hammers to start the destruction. It'll be so sad when none of those harnesses turns out to be anchored correctly"

A mountain is something you don't want to fuck with.

Posted by: Billy the Mountain at August 16, 2017 01:44 PM (398bZ)

364 >>Someone should put these "activists" the knowledge that Mohammed, Peas be Upon Him, was a slave owner.




These are the same activists who demand Ayan Hirsi Ali not be allowed to speak on campus.

They don't acknowledge Islam's present day slavery, so why would they not dismiss what Mohammed did as being OK within his culture so it's OK blah blah blah?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (NOIQH)

365


I want to see a big statue of Obama, with the pose of him showing off his hard cock to a bunch of sweet journalists who were getting all hot about imagining themselves, male and female, at the mercy of his stupid moronic thrusts.

Imagine how easy it would be to get laid around that thing.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Alt-Rightie Esq at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (0WCz5)

366 i guess the fact that Washington freed his slaves doesn't matter

Posted by: Avi at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (jBXZd)

367
Lincoln didn't have anything to do with it IIRC. Liberia was founded in the 1820 or 1830s I think.
Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (Svogv)


Lincoln did purpose a program to repatriate freed slaves to Africa' maybe it wasn't Liberia but there is a country in Africa where English is spoken natively and many of the people who live there have a direct connection to freed slaves who immigrated there after the war

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (lKyWE)

368 Rush ranting right now, covering several of the points covered here the past few days - although we did it better.

Right now he's hammering home the (obvious) point I've been yammering about, to limited apparent effect, for two days - the "white supremacist/neo-Nazi/KKK" groups, taken all together, are not even detectable on the national political or social radar. If they were any more marginalized, they literally wouldn't exist.

But not just the "press", but people here continue to imply that this is not the case.

Meanwhile, the constellation of racist/authoritarian outfits, several of them violent and with impressive body counts, is substantial - by US standards - and is a real force to be reckoned with, and not just by the white power freaks when they hold their tiny events.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (QDnY+)

369 Posted by: mustbequantum at August 16, 2017 01:36 PM

Hey racist! It wasn't easy living in a house built by slaves. Having to spend half of the year on lavish vacations around the world and endure typical white people.

The Mooch.

Posted by: Cheri at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (oiNtH)

370 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (XFue2)

Why don't you go take a beating and report back to us since you have a problem with people talking tough on the internet.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (mleV+)

371 I avoid trouble. I really do. Being armed, I feel a responsibility to try to avoid lethal escalations.

But if you think I'm going to take a beating for the soft center or Christ or anyone else...think again.

I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 01:45 PM (3OIiX)

372 Plenty of people had to take beatings to advance a cause, yet somehow our side is above it. That's pretty fucking weak.




I'll hold your coat.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:46 PM (LTHVh)

373 Oh, and Pepe, what good will it do to have antifa kick your ass and blind you if the media won't show it!

Kenneth Gladney.

Black man beaten by the Left for being outside a 2009 heathcare town hall.

The media covered up his story, the union thugs escaped conviction.



Watch how fast shit falls off the radar when muzzies kill.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:46 PM (U76Nz)

374 One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing.

The Bible doesn't tell you to never fight, it tells you to not hurt others to defend yourself. But it also teaches to defend others around you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:46 PM (39g3+)

375 They will have to report on it if we are the only people getting assaulted. You get dozens of people injured and the media has to report it at some point.

--

Let's discuss what happened in Cambodia just after Vietnam.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 16, 2017 01:46 PM (7ZVPa)

376 352 >>The Civil Rights movement in the south was successful because of non-violence in the face of violence which cameras recorded.

It worked because the media was sympathetic to their cause. They are not sympathetic to ours and either won't film stuff as they haven't been doing or just not air it which they also are doing.

Look at the violence in Berkeley, armed antifa thugs battering unarmed men and women. The media was there. They filmed it and aired it briefly? You seen much sympathy from that?

Nope, the only way we are going to win this is by doing exactly what Trump is doing, rejecting their narrative and pushing back hard.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (/tuJf)

Everybody has a cellphone now to record things. The MSM makes money with scoops. If the alt media is the only people reporting on the non violence of the Right in the face of Marxists then at some point the MSM has to report.

Pushback, what do that mean. Spill the blood of Marxists? Ok then it's a Hot Civil War then. I doubt Trump is calling for that.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:46 PM (XFue2)

377 You know who else owned slaves? His name starts with M, and there's a religion that's pretty big into him

Posted by: Lurker primus at August 16, 2017 01:46 PM (YrVm8)

378 I honestly cannot believe what is going on right now. I don't know how Trump handles all the shit he getting from not only the left but the so-called conservatives in his own party.

Posted by: IC at August 16, 2017 01:47 PM (a0IVu)

379 @Jackal, Lincoln wasn't involved in creating Liberia, but he was a supporter of the American Colonization Society and was at least blueprinting the idea of repatriating all the freed slaves to Africa. He wasn't big on the idea that the races could co-exist.

Fun fact, Harriet Beecher Stowe was also a big proponent of repatriation. Her idea was to "educate and improve" black people and then ship them back to Africa so they could build a glorious society there.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 16, 2017 01:47 PM (QAOZh)

380 377 You know who else owned slaves? His name starts with M, and there's a religion that's pretty big into him
Posted by: Lurker primus at August 16, 2017 01:46 PM (YrVm

M. Ron Hubbard?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2017 01:47 PM (0mRoj)

381 Replace it with a statue of a young Lever Burton in chains. It's all the shit-stirrers care about, anyway.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (h/Hsl)

382 354 Plenty of people had to take beatings to advance a cause, yet somehow our side is above it. That's pretty fucking weak.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (XFue2)

You first, then.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (XMDuf)

383 I propose the Democrats rename their party "The Widening Gyre" and just call it a day.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (LISuA)

384 Remember, one of the things that Jesus would do is take up a whip.

As far as the Lenin statue, 4chan has started operation Lenin Drop.

Since we're playing Will To Power, I'm going to side with the weaponized autists.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (mf5HN)

385 turn the other cheek ... but you only have one "other cheek"

after that ... all bets are off ... fair warning.

(that's just my thought, not a Biblical analysis )

Posted by: illiniwek at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (7Ep0P)

386 I'm trying to figure out how a father would frame this.

"Dad, that guy hit you over the head with a bat. Are you OK?"

"Yeah, and some photographer saw it happen. It's all good."

"But you told me to stand up for my beliefs and especially against bullies."

"Um..."

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 16, 2017 01:42 PM (eytER)


You could watch the movie Selma.

Pepe has a point - I don't know that is a 100% valid one, but it is a point.

Thing 1, supposedly folks on the statue preservation side were armed - open carrying. No one was shot. How much differently (read worse) would the aftermath be had shooting started?

Thing 2, someone on the statue preservation side (and no I am not using that to downplay the Nazis and Klan types or defend them or any of that) ran over and killed someone. That has erased a lot of the validity of the violence on both sides thing. Yes, there was violence on many sides, but only one side killed somebody.

Just like in Selma (and I am surely going to Hell for comparing these events) the pro-statue side knew what was coming.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (6mJ8T)

387 Presentism is a trait of the ignorant. As such , we are in a shitload of trouble.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (mleV+)

388 So...

No, there are no Custer monuments.

But there are monuments to both the Sioux chiefs that killed him.

Let's all be historically ignorant forever.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (B+qrE)

389 Baltimore didn't even wait around, their mayor (spit) just single-handedly decided to have the civil war statues removed on the basis that where the statues were located had nothing to do with the actual events in the civil war.

MMM...kay.

I wish there was a way to know when we have reached peak stupidity, but I fear we are a long way off.

Get to your local revolution and civil war monuments soon, because based on what I'm seeing from the GOPe response, there is no hope that this stuff will be around.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (a+WIL)

390 Interesting thing about the Crow Scouts who rode with Custer: just before Little Bighorn after they informed Custer that they were riding into a trap one of Custer's officers noticed them saying funeral rites and putting on warpaint. The scouts stated that they were preparing to die. The officer apparently viewed it as damaging morale, so he sent them away. Supposedly that's one of the reasons the scouts survived. They were willing to fight and die with Custer at Little Bighorn.

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Funny how dealing with reality leads to survival.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (Nwg0u)

391 Has any Republican come out to support PDT other than Pence?

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (mcI77)

392 I hope the GOP leadership is aware that the alt-left is a violent group of thugs and the real violence in the real world has come from BLM, muzzies, antifas, rent a riots, and mainstream lefties like James Mcfatfuckface.

The GOP leadership does not give a fuck unless one of them is taking a bullet to the head. And, pace Steve Scalise, even if they do take a bullet to the head, it's their own fault for existing.

Just ask Marco Rubio.

Back to lurking.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (X6fMO)

393 On Monday, The American Bar Association's House of Delegates passed a resolution demanding that Congress let undocumented immigrants practice law.


Next, I suppose they will allow hobby experimentation with nuclear devices.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (ckI7j)

394 The goal is to win the soft center, and we don't
have the soft center. So every defensive measure taken that spills the
blood of Marxists will be framed and reported on as aggressive acts of
violence by nationalists.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (XFue2)

There have been many instances of Trump supporters being bloodied by AntiFa. Just not much mention of those instances in the MFM. So the soft center don't know anything about it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (r5KeJ)

395 @Deplorable Male Logic, the country you're thinking of is Liberia.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (QAOZh)

396 Slavery was largely forced upon America by the British kingdom for the tax money. Read the Federalist Papers. They KNEW slavery would be a black-eye on the country, but the ships kept coming and the bill kept coming due.

This entire thing is asinine and shows how fucking ignorant we are as a society and how poorly our schools are performing.

Posted by: Sponge at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (xttKs)

397 Someone needs to be putting attention on the Lenin statue in Seattle. Right now. He was an actual murderer and very much a racist.

Posted by: PBJ1515 at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (QtYLy)

398 "Hey! We lied to you for 7 years about what we would do if you voted us control of the House, Senate and Presidency and you're all Nazis who deserve to be hit in the head with bike locks, have urine thrown at you, be tear gassed and be beaten up! Vote for us!"


Awesome ! Pure Poetry !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (Umfx1)

399 Thing 2, someone on the statue preservation side (and no I am not using that to downplay the Nazis and Klan types or defend them or any of that) ran over and killed someone. That has erased a lot of the validity of the violence on both sides thing.

Exactly. Had that not happened, it would have just been another clash, with antifa showing up to cause trouble and hurt people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (39g3+)

400 I think you are right. It's gonna be a beat down in the 2018 elections . And. If not It is over and go find a happy secluded space

Posted by: Big swingin Al at August 16, 2017 01:41 PM (8WS2E)

There will be no happy secluded places. The only way geography will matter is if the position is defensible or not.

Posted by: troyriser at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (Fw5cQ)

401 378 I honestly cannot believe what is going on right now. I don't know how Trump handles all the shit he getting from not only the left but the so-called conservatives in his own party.

He's got to go on prime time TV and try to bring this down....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (O2RFr)

402 I am Protestant. Yet I enjoy visiting ancient Roman Catholic cathedrals as well as Anglican cathedrals in the UK and Europe. I have no desire to destroy them or remove their presence as I am not offended.

I guess we should be offended by the UK, as they once made us fight a war for freedom. We should, sarcasm, deport all British and the bust of Winston Churchill.
...
Posted by:ChristyBlinky


Excellent examples. And there was a lot of blood spilled during the Reformation. These antifas are just sh*t stirrers. They have no legitimate grievances. They come up with the lamest possible pretext to express their inner asshole.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (/qEW2)

403 No, there are no Custer monuments.


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????

Posted by: RioBravo at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (SsblQ)

404 178 137 They're going to replace the faces on Mount Rushmore with Rodney King, Mike Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 16, 2017 01:14 PM (xPl2J)
___________________________

Whoaaa there Mugabe.

Posted by: B. Obama at August 16, 2017 01:18 PM (mcI77)
________________________

No they are going to blow it up and return it to its natural unmolested beauty.

Posted by: gNewt at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (EeUIW)

405 Then it's a hot Civil War.

Let's just call it what it is and employ all tactics of warfare against the Marxists. Truckers should refuse to make deliveries into Urban areas. People should stop using social media. People should stop doing business with University cities and Urban cities.

Declare war then.

But people on the Right cannot and will not even make these small sacrifices so it looks like we already lost.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)

406
One of the reasons I can't really claim to be a Christian is I don't agree with the whole 'turn the other cheek' thing. If you hit me, you will be hit back. Harder and faster."


One of the commenters here posted a link to a website about muscular christianity that was excellent.I believe it was Jane Doh

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (lKyWE)

407 If this "rough beast slouching" stuff is about me, you are all finished. FINISHED!

Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (OVUYQ)

408 Back to lurking.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (X6fMO)


*hauls MP4 back out*

Don't you leave me with this batch of miscreants all by myself. Nuh uh.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

409 379 @Jackal, Lincoln wasn't involved in creating Liberia, but he was a supporter of the American Colonization Society and was at least blueprinting the idea of repatriating all the freed slaves to Africa. He wasn't big on the idea that the races could co-exist.

Fun fact, Harriet Beecher Stowe was also a big proponent of repatriation. Her idea was to "educate and improve" black people and then ship them back to Africa so they could build a glorious society there.
Posted by: sunny-dee at August 16, 2017 01:47 PM (QAOZh)

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Even funnier fact: What was the frst things the Americo-Liberians did once Liberia was established? They started oppressing the naitives! They didn't get voting rights until some time in te 60's or 70's after a coup. After which Liberia rapidly started to go in the crapper as a country.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (Svogv)

410 As far as the Lenin statue, 4chan has started operation Lenin Drop.

Since we're playing Will To Power, I'm going to side with the weaponized autists.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (mf5HN)



Really? I'd love to see that get toppled and the commie outrage over their mass murderer's statue fall

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (493sH)

411 Turd blossom on FOX taking the side of antifa.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (71/k8)

412 Does this mean that Denzel Washington must forfeit any statues he's been awarded?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (SvBKa)

413 391
Has any Republican come out to support PDT other than Pence?



Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (mcI77)
Ben Carson had a lovely commentary on his Facebook page - full of common sense speak.

Posted by: IC at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (a0IVu)

414 Ignoramus - press "credibility" cannot be reduced, if that were possible, it would be gone already. No "delenda est". Maybe on the margins. But overall - gee, what are discussing here today? That's right, 98% of it is media-driven distortions and slanders. They remain dominant. Wish-casting is for verboten.

Turnout (which was already likely to be OK) is actually not the problem. As you know.

Turnout that produces a ...... "GOP Congress!!!" .... yields ..... oh, right. What we have now. Not that *nothing* had been done - but very very little in comparison to the need, and the political space available (just about every major issue is completely one-sided, politically).

Key is replacing GOP incumbents, knocking off as many Senate Dems as possible, based on their positions on key issues (thus creating at least some political obligation by the replacements to actually finally deliver).

I see/hear almost nothing of this, any of it. I've been openly wondering when the WH is going to accept that they have to run against much of the GOP, if they have any interest in going beyond the box they're currently trapped inside.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (QDnY+)

415 On Monday, The American Bar Association's House of Delegates passed a resolution demanding that Congress let undocumented immigrants practice law.



Using whose Social Security number?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (LTHVh)

416 Someone needs to be putting attention on the Lenin
statue in Seattle. Right now. He was an actual murderer and very much a
racist.
Posted by: PBJ1515 at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (QtYLy)

_____



AtC learned us that as far as the Lenin statue, 4chan has started operation Lenin Drop.


(And the thought of Atc being in 4chan is making me all weak inside..)

Posted by: IP at August 16, 2017 01:52 PM (UmSfZ)

417 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)

You keep referring to others. What have you done?

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 01:52 PM (mleV+)

418 okay, this is bugging me. Yesterday Trump said there were good people on both sides and THAT I think is where this shit storm is coming from. I know it was a white supremist group that asked for the permit but were there actually other, you know NORMAL people there as well? And is there any proof of that fact?
Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 01:02 PM (zRZaJ)


I read a blog post somewhere yesterday (sorry, can't remember where) by a guy who was with a group that was just against removing confederate memorials. He said they were all herded into a park by the police, passing antifa and BLM people who threw urine and bottles at them. He said that once in the park a small group of "Nazis" stood together in one area while some "KKK" people stood in another. His group stood together in another area. Then the police announced everyone had to leave and funneled everyone together directly into the anti-protest crowd.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 01:52 PM (B9t7n)

419 Next, I suppose they will allow hobby experimentation with nuclear devices"

Oh goody.

*rubs hands with glee*

Posted by: Clock Boy... at August 16, 2017 01:52 PM (MINbv)

420 I say we honor Brack Obama on Mount Rushmore by carving it in to a giant asshole.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2017 01:52 PM (oVJmc)

421 Don't you leave me with this batch of miscreants all by myself. Nuh uh.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (mf5HN)


*makes big eyes*

You still got ME.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2017 01:52 PM (ISejo)

422 5
So, the new Leftist goal is to Destroy White History?


Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2017 12:56 PM (aT+Bx)
No. The left's goal has never changed. They want to destroy the rule of law and seize power. In order to do that, they want to divide and polarize the nation into as many factions as possible under as many specious arguments as they can muster.

Posted by: Locke Common at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (I2kp0)

423 Well on a positive note at least Russia is out of the news...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (O2RFr)

424 Slavery was largely forced upon America by the British kingdom for the tax money. Read the Federalist Papers. They KNEW slavery would be a black-eye on the country, but the ships kept coming and the bill kept coming due.

This entire thing is asinine and shows how fucking ignorant we are as a society and how poorly our schools are performing.

Posted by: Sponge


Fascinating. Never heard that take before.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (/qEW2)

425 401
378 I honestly cannot believe what is going on right now. I don't know
how Trump handles all the shit he getting from not only the left but the
so-called conservatives in his own party.



He's got to go on prime time TV and try to bring this down....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (O2RFr)
Agreed. This is utter madness. The thing is I wonder if most Americans actually agree with him about 'both sides are to blame here' talk and think the DC twats are full of shit.

Posted by: IC at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (a0IVu)

426
Posted by: sunny-dee at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (QAOZh)


Thanks I thought so

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (lKyWE)

427 But people on the Right cannot and will not even make these small sacrifices so it looks like we already lost.


I'm amenable to evidence. Lead by example.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (LTHVh)

428 39

The Republican party is worse than the Democrats. I say that as a now former Republican.

At least the Dems don't gleefully deficate all over their base.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 16, 2017 01:54 PM (L2Umq)

429 He's got to go on prime time TV and try to bring this down....
Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (O2RFr)

I've been saying this for weeks. Just going on TV would probably raise his poll numbers 5%. But I gotta believe that at this point the media would probably find away to deny him the prime time slot.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2017 01:54 PM (7uYFy)

430 Mitt romney's facebook post was my last straw with that turd. Please put a D at the end of your name and run in 2020 so i can watch Trump mop the floor with you.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 16, 2017 01:54 PM (a+WIL)

431 Maybe the pastor of the Liberation Christian Center
which was "formed and ordained by God to be the balm in Gilead" (from their internet description) should be aware of 2nd Timothy 1:7 "God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of love, power and a sound mind" He's afraid of a statue of a man dead over 200 years, a man who asked in his will that his slaves be freed at his death? There's a hymn called "There Is a Balm in Gilead" which talks about healing the sin sick soul. Maybe he needs some healing for his sin sick soul so that he can focus on more important things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2017 01:55 PM (iVOAv)

432 Thank God we have Karl Rove to drop some sense on viewers.
Asshole.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 01:55 PM (B9t7n)

433 Agreed. This is utter madness. The thing is I wonder if most Americans actually agree with him about 'both sides are to blame here' talk and think the DC twats are full of shit.

Which is why I questioned where the "polls" were. Usually after a big Trump blow up they release polls telling us how badly Trump is doing...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:55 PM (O2RFr)

434 405 But people on the Right cannot and will not even make these small sacrifices so it looks like we already lost.



Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (XFue2)


Again.

You first.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 01:55 PM (WDCYi)

435 >>Everybody has a cellphone now to record things. The MSM makes money with scoops. If the alt media is the only people reporting on the non violence of the Right in the face of Marxists then at some point the MSM has to report.

>>Pushback, what do that mean. Spill the blood of Marxists? Ok then it's a Hot Civil War then. I doubt Trump is calling for that.


And I'm pretty sure he isn't calling for us to lie down and take a beating either. You see him doing that?

There have been plenty of videos and evidence of lefty violence. It's way past time to start pushing back and shutting them down.

If Trump can win then so can we. There are a lot more people on our side than you seem to think.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 01:56 PM (/tuJf)

436 Slavery was largely forced upon America by the British kingdom for the tax money. Read the Federalist Papers.

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Until cotton cotton cotton and then the south decided to lie back and enjoy it.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 16, 2017 01:56 PM (SsblQ)

437 They want to destroy the rule of law and seize power."

See "Revolutionary Era France" for a fairly recent take on how this turns out...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 16, 2017 01:56 PM (MINbv)

438 Agreed. This is utter madness. The thing is I wonder if most Americans actually agree with him about 'both sides are to blame here' talk and think the DC twats are full of shit.
Posted by: IC at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (a0IVu)


I wonder about this too. But I think people are so afraid to be on the same side as "Nazis" that they are probably wiling to cede this battle too.

One thing about Trump is---just when it looks like he's down and out.....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2017 01:56 PM (7uYFy)

439 I see you trying to get sticked, ScoggDog.


(And the thought of Atc being in 4chan is making me all weak inside..)
Posted by: IP at August 16, 2017 01:52 PM (UmSfZ)


Oh hell no. HELL NO. I'm not nearly sociopathic enough to play with 4chan.

That we are at a point where 4chan may, possibly, if you squint, kinda maybe not be utter nihilistic sociopaths makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (mf5HN)

440 Using whose Social Security number?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (LTHVh)


Yours.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (bIwZ6)

441 415 On Monday, The American Bar Association's House of Delegates passed a resolution demanding that Congress let undocumented immigrants practice law.



Using whose Social Security number?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 16, 2017 01:51 PM (LTHVh



I just find it funny that AmishDude has been proven wrong. He would always swear that lawyers are pro-illegal because its not their jobs that are threatened.

Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (cAnNx)

442 193 The thing is, this is the same country that kicked the left straight in the pills last November, shocking them into silence for hours straight. This is the same country that has for almost a decade pushed more and more Democrats out of office in state after state, over 1000 offices since Obama became President.

These guys are just loud and have a huge megaphone with the media, but they are small in number, isolated in situation, and confused by any different voice. Its like that kid in class who had an IQ of like 70 and yelled a lot. He seems to dominate the conversation but there are 29 other kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:20 PM (39g3+)

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I continue to remind myself of this. I continue to look at how many college kids, and American citizens are not throwing down. People hate living in chaos & violence. People are also seeing how cracked the left is. There are Dems I know who say if they had to do it over they would not vote for Hillary. They had no idea their party was so corrupt.

So, for now, I continue to remind myself that America keeps lurching from one outrage to the next. And there will be more before the next election.

To keep a cool head about this, I shall go stick it in the freezer. Good day.

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (UdcF7)

443 390 Interesting thing about the Crow Scouts who rode with Custer: just before Little Bighorn after they informed Custer that they were riding into a trap one of Custer's officers noticed them saying funeral rites and putting on warpaint. The scouts stated that they were preparing to die. The officer apparently viewed it as damaging morale, so he sent them away. Supposedly that's one of the reasons the scouts survived. They were willing to fight and die with Custer at Little Bighorn.

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Funny how dealing with reality leads to survival.
Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (Nwg0u)

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Custer, for all of his heroics during the Late Unpleasantness, was an arrogant shitheel who got his men killed. When your scouts come to you and say you're riding into a trap against an army that outnumbers and outguns (The Sioux were armed to the teeth with Henry and 1866 Winchester rifles, the assault rifle of its day) you, you listen to them.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (Svogv)

444 But people on the Right cannot and will not even make these small sacrifices so it looks like we already lost.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe


No, we just refuse to make "beautiful gestures" in useless tactics. Playing for the cameras only works if the media will show it! The leftmedia was on board in the 60s so it showed it. Now? There's no way in hell they'll even acknowledge it if we go out to get bloodied for the cameras!

Dear God, do you even think these things through?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (AM1GF)

445 Don't you leave me with this batch of miscreants all by myself. Nuh uh.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (mf5HN)

*makes big eyes*

You still got ME.
Posted by: ScoggDog


Us.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (U76Nz)

446 I've been saying this for weeks. Just going on TV
would probably raise his poll numbers 5%. But I gotta believe that at
this point the media would probably find away to deny him the prime
time slot.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2017 01:54 PM (7uYFy)
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Twitter stream it live. 15 seconds tops.
"My fellow Americans, I'm here to ask you to put on your gloves, sadly its time to clean up the mess once and for all. Thank you, goodnight, and may God bless America. ."

Posted by: IP at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (UmSfZ)

447 Lincoln didn't have anything to do with it IIRC. Liberia was founded in the 1820 or 1830s I think.
Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:37 PM (Svogv)
____________________

Lincoln favored the idea of colonization for blacks.

He met with a black delegation at the White House in 1862 to make the case to them. Newspapers reported that he told them "It is better for us both, therefore, to be separated."

When addressing congress in 1862 and asking for funding for colonization, he said "I cannot make it better known than it already is that I strongly favor colonization."

However, after Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, he never publicly advocated for colonization again, although historians say that he still saw it as a good idea for blacks who were dissatisfied with their lives in the U.S.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (HZrjw)

448 And you wonder why I nap all the time. Geesh.

Posted by: J. Sessions at August 16, 2017 01:58 PM (mcI77)

449 Fascinating. Never heard that take before.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 01:53 PM (/qEW2)


I bought a book about The Constitution and various writings by the founding fathers, including The Federalist Papers. I believe it was Jefferson that wrote about how slavery was bad, was going to cast darkly on the country and how the boats kept bringing them and the taxes were demanded. I would have to dig to find the exact document.

Posted by: Sponge at August 16, 2017 01:58 PM (xttKs)

450 429 He's got to go on prime time TV and try to bring this down....
Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (O2RFr)


No.

He needs another confrontation ... and video.

He needs agents in Lexington, KY catching on tape the entire shit-storm that will surely happen.

THEN he needs to go on TV.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 16, 2017 01:58 PM (ISejo)

451 >>They were willing to fight and die with Custer at Little Bighorn. Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 01:49 PM (Nwg0u)

Either that, or their unsophisticated-but effective perception-management campaign worked like a charm.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 01:58 PM (Bdeb0)

452 yesterday

peaceful protestors on the left

today

our thugs are better thugs

Posted by: Avi at August 16, 2017 01:58 PM (jBXZd)

453 Matthew 7:15-20

Posted by: Strobe at August 16, 2017 01:59 PM (gbWkA)

454 The thing is I wonder if most Americans actually agree with him about 'both sides are to blame here' talk and think the DC twats are full of shit.

I think that's true as well. They are more repulsed by nature with white supremacist losers but consider both sides more or less worthless. I get nothing but upvotes and agreement when I post anything about how both sides are knuckleheads. Nobody complains or argues. For what that's worth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 01:59 PM (39g3+)

455 Well, the interesting thing is that there is obviously a plan here. Not sure what it is but they started with Trump is a nazi, then moved on to the confederacy, then the founding fathers associated with slavery. They, someone, is trying to make the case for something bigger, not sure what or who.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 16, 2017 02:00 PM (0wem/)

456 >>And you wonder why I nap all the time. Geesh.

Well you better wake up, you have a speech on sanctuary cities coming up at 3.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 02:00 PM (/tuJf)

457 Hopped up... Jesus.. this whole thing is looking more and more like a set up.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at August 16, 2017 02:00 PM (zRZaJ)

458

You could watch the movie Selma.

Pepe has a point - I don't know that is a 100% valid one, but it is a point.

Thing 1, supposedly folks on the statue preservation side were armed - open carrying. No one was shot. How much differently (read worse) would the aftermath be had shooting started?

Thing 2, someone on the statue preservation side (and no I am not using that to downplay the Nazis and Klan types or defend them or any of that) ran over and killed someone. That has erased a lot of the validity of the violence on both sides thing. Yes, there was violence on many sides, but only one side killed somebody.

Just like in Selma (and I am surely going to Hell for comparing these events) the pro-statue side knew what was coming.
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 01:48 PM (6mJ8T)

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You're forgetting one major difference between Selma and now. The MFM were 100% behind the blacks in Selma. Of course everyone saw how the poor black man was being beaten.

Now, when anyone is beaten by the antifa, the media takes the side of the antifa and says that the counter-left protesters deserved it.

Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 02:00 PM (Fmupd)

459 Who is Turd Blossom on Fox? Shep?

Posted by: Glenn John at August 16, 2017 02:00 PM (LilNs)

460 Hey! We lied to you for 7 years about what we would do if you voted us control of the House, Senate and Presidency and you're all Nazis who deserve to be hit in the head with bike locks, have urine thrown at you, be tear gassed and be beaten up! Vote for us!

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2020 vision.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 02:00 PM (Nwg0u)

461 >>No, we just refuse to make "beautiful gestures" in useless tactics. Playing for the cameras only works if the media will show it! Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (AM1GF)

Or if you kinda, y'know, catch them by surprise. Having said that, we're gonna need some volunteers...

Posted by: R. Zod Dwyer at August 16, 2017 02:01 PM (Bdeb0)

462 436 Slavery was largely forced upon America by the British kingdom for the tax money. Read the Federalist Papers.

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Until cotton cotton cotton and then the south decided to lie back and enjoy it.
Posted by: RioBravo at August 16, 2017 01:56 PM (SsblQ)

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True. It can be argued that the cotton gin saved slavery in the south. Without it, slavery probably dies out or remains isolated to a few agricultural products and gets banned in the early 1800s.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 02:01 PM (Svogv)

463 The right Reverend Dukes perhaps does not know that it was people with his own skin color, and not George Washington, that kidnapped and sold his ancestors into slavery.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 16, 2017 02:01 PM (xDKH6)

464 455 455 Well, the interesting thing is that there is obviously a plan here. Not sure what it is but they started with Trump is a nazi, then moved on to the confederacy, then the founding fathers associated with slavery. They, someone, is trying to make the case for something bigger, not sure what or who.

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 16, 2017 02:00 PM (0wem/)


The "Nazi" thing really seems like it's a ploy to scare Jewish donors away from the GOPe.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 02:01 PM (WDCYi)

465 No, there are no Custer monuments.

Top of my head, here, but:
at his birthplace in Ohio
All the hell over Monroe Michigan
West Point
Gettysburg
and last and least,
Little Big Horn

Certainly there must be more, but someone else has to step up here.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 02:01 PM (H5rtT)

466 You must be willing to spill your own blood for the camera. This is the only way.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:17

Footage would never make it past the editor. If live-feed, "technical difficulties" would ensue.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 16, 2017 02:02 PM (ifORZ)

467 ace:

Is anyone making a definitive list of public figures who have sanctioned the right of self-appointed speech police to preempt "hate speech" with violence if they have a good heart and identify the speaker - in their sole discretion - as a probable NAZI?

I would have thought that our SEVERE CONSTITUTIONALISTS would be against such a thing and stand fast on the former principle that NAZI speech that doesn't directly incite violence is speech, and Commie violence to preempt "hate speech" is, in fact, violence and not speech.

I've seen members of the Crying Eagle Brigade make this at least implicit - including McCain and Willard who were the former Hitler 2.0s and who are now free (for the moment) of specious accusations of being NAZIs.




Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 16, 2017 02:02 PM (NrdxS)

468 With Trump's military leaders publicly contradicting his position on transgenders, I think we crossed the Rubicon , doubled back and crossed it again just for good measure.

This is not an us against them. It's an us against them and them.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (mleV+)

469 Just like in Selma (and I am surely going to Hell for comparing these events) the pro-statue side knew what was coming.
Posted by: blaster



How could they know? They were the only permitted people allowed to be there.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (U76Nz)

470 blaster, do you know what happened with the car incident? Will there be a conviction of any sort? Is the defendant even known to any of the organized element that had the permit? (doubtful) None of this is known - by anyone. So yes - using the mob's disinformation/no-information standard, we know what happened. And when none of that proves to be true, or is even turned on its head - do we back up and get a do-over?

Hopped Up, I think you read a first-person comment - can't recall where it is, read it yesterday, someone linked it on the ONT. Guy gave a pretty cold, mechanical description of events, as he saw from his location. At a minimum, based on his account, we have a major case of disastrous police incompetence (I said minimum - again, we just don't know almost anything about what actually happened).

And sure, we can go with the myths/lies/fog of war stuff - and 1 killed!!! - and join the mob. Or not.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (QDnY+)

471 Social media makes things loom larger than they really are, and the media follows social media like the voice of God, so you can pretty much discount 90% of the outrage and voices of screaming ninnies out there. Its like looking through the wrong end of the telescope, you're not getting a view of the big picture, you're getting a smashed and distorted little picture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (39g3+)

472 I wonder about this too. But I think people are so afraid to be on the same side as "Nazis" that they are probably wiling to cede this battle too.

One thing about Trump is---just when it looks like he's down and out.....
Posted by: JoeF.


The narrative has changed. Before, some pundits were a tiny bit hesitant to not say both sides were violent while today the media line is that there were only Nazis VS Americans in C'Ville. What Trump needs to do is get some facts out about what happened and not wait for Jeff ZZZZZ Sessions to complete some sort of investigation using Holder civil rights lawyers because that is the same bunch that paid for and organized marches for Trayvon.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (B9t7n)

473 Dumb asses taking all the statues down now while scrap prices are low.

Posted by: Fred Sanford at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (v2uEC)

474 He's got to go on prime time TV and try to bring this down....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 01:50 PM (O2RFr)



There is literally nothing Trump can say apart from I am announcing my resignation and execution that will satisfy the Left.

Nothing.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (mf5HN)

475 This entire thing is asinine and shows how fucking ignorant we are as a society and how poorly our schools are performing.
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You must learn about anal sex, specifically man-on-man anal sex.

Gay sex is all you really need to know. All I need to know about life, I learned from man-on-man anal sex.

Posted by: NEA at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (vg8iE)

476 Huh. It's almost as if the alt right is correct when they say the Left is trying to replace whites from history for allegedly being evil.

Posted by: sadn at August 16, 2017 02:04 PM (40ZTM)

477 How about removing everything in WV dedicated to Robert Byrd? Let's see if that's a conversation Senate Democrats want to get into.

Posted by: noname at August 16, 2017 02:04 PM (SgAw9)

478
Replace it with a statue of a young Lever Burton in chains. It's all the shit-stirrers care about, anyway.
Posted by: Rob Crawford


Wearing an air filter over his eyes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2017 02:04 PM (IqV8l)

479 The "Nazi" thing really seems like it's a ploy to scare Jewish donors away from the GOPe.
Posted by: Hikaru at August



Well, maybe, but these are all white guys that everyone is comfortable believing are evil and deserve hatred. Seems like someone is deliberately walking from most reprehensible to less reprehensible in order to get people comfortable with violence against whites. Maybe?

Nazis - pepper spray and bike locks
Slavers - violence
Founding Fathers - violence

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 16, 2017 02:04 PM (0wem/)

480 through?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (AM1GF)

Yes, I think these things through. And fighting back violently against the Marxists is a losing battle. Obviously, y'all believe taking a beating for the cameras without fighting back is a losing battle.

So what's left? Seriously?

Asymmetrical warfare? Literally Hot Warfare tactics? People on the right cant even make the sacrifices needed in their own lives like not using the tools,and products of our enemies so out will a hot war work out?

Ugh.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (XFue2)

481 What matters about slavery is 642,427, mostly white Christian men, died to abolish slavery! How is that for reparations!

Posted by: Locke Common at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (I2kp0)

482 If only Zimmerman would have let himself be beat to death , he would have gotten sympathy to fight the Left.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (mleV+)

483 I would recommend everyone watching Stefan Molyneux's commentary on Charlottesville on Youtube. He brilliantly explains the importance of free speech. How terribly sad it is that such an explanation is necessary.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (L2Umq)

484 So much win amd correctness in the commemts

Posted by: Heh at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (nIGPZ)

485 And Ace, assuming you're reading this:

Yes, do the live blog of the Borne film. Have fun with it. People like to bitch about movie posts being long but the truth is, we love em and we love talking about movies here.

Footage would never make it past the editor. If live-feed, "technical difficulties" would ensue.

It gets all over social media though. Until this last incident, Antifa had a nasty stink of brutal rioting thugs about them. Now they seem less so because one idiot drove a car into people. That's Pepe's point.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)

486 >>How could they know? They were the only permitted people allowed to be there.

Because they have been facing off against antifa at every rally for over a year. That's why they came ready to rumble and so did antifa.

Watch the upcoming white nationalist rallies that are being announced in cities across the country. Wherever they show up, so will antifa. It's not a surprise.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (/tuJf)

487 Since when do disorderly idiots get to edit our history?

Posted by: Monty James at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (gKOMX)

488 17 Civil War II has begun.
Posted by: SillyBoy at August 16, 2017 12:58 PM (Q3oNv)

I'm afraid you're right. 5 years ago I could see sticking around for it. Now, with a wife, daughter and another daughter on the way I find myself thinking of places to fuck-off to in order to avoid the coming unpleasantness. Wish I spoke Polish.

Posted by: DanInMN at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (h5ffp)

489 Never drop your hands if you're in the ring.

Weakness is like blood to a shark to Antifa.

Non-violent resistance only works if you have control/sympathetic meida AND if your opponent are souless monsters like this feral vermin.

There, said my piece over and over in this thread. Gonna get lunch and talk about nothing but good stuff in the next one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (3OIiX)

490 Wearing an air filter over his eyes.

Nah its one of those hair thingies girls wear, spraypainted silver.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (39g3+)

491 How could they know?

In fairness, the Selma marchers knew they were dealing with Democrats. Violence was expected.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (QQ+il)

492 Awesome discussion on 'turn the other cheek'. I was going to attempt some lame Shep Smith humor ... but no.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (/qEW2)

493 I've seen members of the Crying Eagle Brigade make this at least implicit - including McCain and Willard
==

Rubio (on Twitter yesterday) makes it 100% explicit. Hateful #Nazi #WhiteSupremacist beliefs *justify* and eventually *lead to* violence against those espousing them.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (10LGw)

494 Just like in Selma (and I am surely going to Hell for comparing these events) the pro-statue side knew what was coming.
Posted by: blaster



How could they know? They were the only permitted people allowed to be there.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (U76Nz)


How could they know? You tell me. I am going to continue to use pro-statue side as a descriptor, but pro-statue people came to the protest armed and armored, also. Why do you think that is?

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (6mJ8T)

495 What matters about slavery is 642,427, mostly white Christian men, died to abolish slavery! How is that for reparations!

Posted by: Locke Common at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (I2kp0)


I don't think they'll be happy until we're all in early graves

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (493sH)

496 With Trump's military leaders publicly contradicting his position on transgenders, I think we crossed the Rubicon , doubled back and crossed it again just for good measure.

This is not an us against them. It's an us against them and them.
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That's one thing Trump can single-handedly take care of. As CinC, he has the moral obligation to act in situations of gross insubordination of the military officers under him so that order is maintained.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (vg8iE)

497
True. It can be argued that the cotton gin saved slavery in the south. Without it, slavery probably dies out or remains isolated to a few agricultural products and gets banned in the early 1800s.
Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017

*
*
I was taught about that in school, yea, these many centuries ago. What they never taught me was that Eli Whitney, the inventor of the cotton gin, also came up with the idea of interchangeable machine parts, like for rifles, so they could be mass-produced. Thus leading to the North's industrialization. In other words, this one man set the two parts of the country, North and South, on their divergent and opposing paths.

One man can make a difference.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (WuRdj)

498 red-rag and pink-flag
black shirt and brown
strut-mince and stink-brag
have all come to town

some like it shot
some like it hung
some like it in the twot
nine months young

Posted by: e e cummings at August 16, 2017 02:07 PM (0jtPF)

499 I exist because of slave labor. ..come get me, bitches

Posted by: The pyramids at August 16, 2017 02:07 PM (CDETr)

500 If Trump can win then so can we.
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Amen.

Posted by: gNewt at August 16, 2017 02:07 PM (EeUIW)

501 Beauregard's talking sanctuary cities today? Interesting.

Have yet to see whether the rather pitiful "stick" of withholding small grants will stand up in court (I can easily see it being - rightly - disallowed, depending on what the statutes and appropriations bills say).

Wonder if serious measures have even crossed anyone's mind at DOJ on this matter.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 02:07 PM (QDnY+)

502 (Off, sourpuss sock.)

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 16, 2017 02:07 PM (10LGw)

503 there's one person watching and relishing eevery bit of this - obama.

the one who fomented so much racial conflict without accountability or responsibility can now appear above the fray.

i've known people like this, american buddhists and sociopaths, e.g., who like to cause tension and anxiety without consequence to themselves to their advantage. divide and conquer. i'm sure it's in alinsky, too.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 16, 2017 02:07 PM (AxFdW)

504 And Rahn Emanuel will probably acede to the request-It's not like he has anything better to do in Chicago/sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (iVOAv)

505 What matters about slavery is 642,427, mostly white Christian men, died to abolish slavery! How is that for reparations!

Posted by: Locke Common

15 of the 26 members of the Sharkman family who fought for the North died during the war. And 3 of the 7 who fought for the South.

Those lives mattered just as much as those who were freed.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (aLFi2)

506 Summon the meteors.
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (6mJ8T)

Ahem. I'm already scheduled for Monday.

You want me early, you pay extra.

Posted by: FunShine SMOD, bringer of rainbows, bunny laughter, and sweet bloody death at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (al6UK)

507 When will the Egyptian Pyramids be torn down?

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 16, 2017 01:00 PM (GQn43)

Efforts were made. Not sure if it was muzzies or their predecessors. They were originally covered with bright white limestone facing blocks, so that they had four smooth, white flat faces, not steps. Those were all stolen, and repurposed for other buildings.

So the Pyramids literally were defaced.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (2le8w)

508 Both sides came to the conflict armed. Only one side used the weapons they came to the "rally" with. No shooting despite all those guns. Plenty of clubbing and spray paint flame throwers. Again, if it hadn't been for that jackwagon in the car, this would have been pretty bad for the left.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

509 >>So what's left? Seriously?

>>Asymmetrical warfare? Literally Hot Warfare tactics? People on the right cant even make the sacrifices needed in their own lives like not using the tools,and products of our enemies so out will a hot war work out?

>>Ugh.

You do know that the DOJ is going after antifa aggressively, don't you?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (/tuJf)

510 Obama promised to fundamentally transform our nation.

He's sitting on a beach somewhere gloating right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2017 02:09 PM (PY9jH)

511 I don't think the left and their fellow-travelers in the executive ranks understand where this is going.

I would not begin to predict the outcome.

But the direction we're going may be civil war. Not the US 1861 kind, but the Cromwell and French 1789 kind.

And, like I said, I would not begin to predict the outcome of something like that.

Should it come to pass, we might end up a Chinese colony, we might end up a series of little North American Balkans in perpetual skirmish, one side might crush the other, but if history is any indicator there could be several evolutions of the process and the end result may be something no one predicted.

Posted by: JEM at August 16, 2017 02:09 PM (TppKb)

512 What they never taught me was that Eli Whitney, the inventor of the cotton gin, also came up with the idea of interchangeable machine parts, like for rifles, so they could be mass-produced. Thus leading to the North's industrialization. In other words, this one man set the two parts of the country, North and South, on their divergent and opposing paths.

One man can make a difference.

-
And he was a white man!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 02:09 PM (Nwg0u)

513 Off smoddy sock.

Posted by: G. Gnome, with the red pointy hat at August 16, 2017 02:09 PM (al6UK)

514 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)

And people continue to disagree with that point. A white conservative will never be considered a victim. Do I need to provide a list of all the dead white people killed by blacks or illegals? We couldn't even pass a law after an innocent beautiful girl was shot and killed by an illegal that was protected by a sanctuary city.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:09 PM (mleV+)

515 478
Replace it with a statue of a young Lever Burton in chains. It's all the shit-stirrers care about, anyway.
Posted by: Rob Crawford

Wearing an air filter over his eyes.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2017 02:04 PM (IqV8l)

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That's not an air filter! It's Denise Okuda's hairband!
(Seriously, that's what inspired the design for the VISOR. Mike Okuda, one of the big productions designers for Star Trek was inspired by a hairband his then-girlfriend Denise was wearing one day)

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 02:09 PM (Svogv)

516 All I know is violent pushback from the right is exactly what Soros and teh Marxists want so why give it to them.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (XFue2)

517 Wish I spoke Polish.
Posted by: DanInMN


A Pole would never leave.
Just sayin'.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (B9t7n)

518 506 Summon the meteors.
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 01:07 PM (6mJ8T)

Ahem. I'm already scheduled for Monday.

You want me early, you pay extra.
Posted by: FunShine SMOD, bringer of rainbows, bunny laughter, and sweet bloody death at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (al6UK)


gofundme dot com / smod-end-it-now

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (jxbfJ)

519 America by and large rejected the Klan. Maybe they will eventually see through BLM and reject them also. I want to see them as "marginalized" as the Klan.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (/qEW2)

520 517 Wish I spoke Polish.
Posted by: DanInMN


A Pole would never leave.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (B9t7n)

Nor would the Irish. Well, as long as there is alcohol we'll stay.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (jxbfJ)

521 Anyone have an idea of the significance of Nov. 4, 2017? Why are they planning a huge turnout that day for "protests"?

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (a+WIL)

522 True. It can be argued that the cotton gin saved slavery in the south. Without it, slavery probably dies out or remains isolated to a few agricultural products and gets banned in the early 1800s.

Machines like that were making slavery obsolete, because they meant you didn't need as many workers to do the job. So you need fewer slaves. Mechanism was making it cheaper to not use people, so you wouldn't need slaves for the fields. Its expensive to keep a slave, make no mistake. Unless they materially contribute to your wealth, they're just a net drain. Food, shelter, medical care, someone to watch them and keep them around, its all net expense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (39g3+)

523 You do know that the DOJ is going after antifa aggressively, don't you?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (/tuJf)

Yes. But I don't have faith in out govt institutions. I'd love to be proven wrong.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (XFue2)

524 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

You're kidding right? Did you see the reporting before the girl was killed?

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (mleV+)

525 When is Bill Clinton going to change his middle name?

In the 1940's, New York City had a Judge named Peter Schmuck. In the 1950's, upstate New York had a Judge named Liston Coon. Should their decisions be removed from the law books?

Posted by: mercenary13 at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (BJ3BZ)

526 If car driver guy doesn't get a death sentence, imagine all the celebrations we will have...

Posted by: RioBravo at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (SsblQ)

527 That's not an air filter! It's Denise Okuda's hairband!
(Seriously, that's what inspired the design for the VISOR. Mike Okuda, one of the big productions designers for Star Trek was inspired by a hairband his then-girlfriend Denise was wearing one day)
Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 02:09 PM (Svogv)

That's not a hairband. It's a banana clip worn 90 degrees off and to the front.

Posted by: G. Gnome, with the red pointy hat at August 16, 2017 02:12 PM (al6UK)

528 Supporting the constitution is not being on "anyone's side".

Supporting enforcement of municipal and state statutes on assault, etc. is not being on "anyone's side".

Those are the only issues. Obviously. If you think you can or should get into any other part of it, you'll fail, and you'll keep failing as you encounter the next situation, because you've unwittingly picked up the dumb illogical thinking of the dumb illogical people now rioting in the press rooms.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 02:12 PM (QDnY+)

529 A Pole would never leave.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (B9t7n)

Nor would the Irish. Well, as long as there is alcohol we'll stay.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed



Alcohol and a fight.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2017 02:12 PM (U76Nz)

530 Nor would the Irish. Well, as long as there is alcohol we'll stay.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (jxbfJ)
_____


.. and we'll fight. If they won't then we'll just fight among ourselves until they will.

Posted by: IP at August 16, 2017 02:12 PM (UmSfZ)

531 The United States Capitol and the White House were built with slave labor. They must be erased, and that even includes the nicer offices.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 16, 2017 02:12 PM (KqPBq)

532 526 If car driver guy doesn't get a death sentence, imagine all the celebrations we will have...

What if they find him innocent? Not likely even if he was but can you imagine?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 02:12 PM (O2RFr)

533 497
True. It can be argued that the cotton gin saved slavery in the south. Without it, slavery probably dies out or remains isolated to a few agricultural products and gets banned in the early 1800s.
Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017
*
*
I was taught about that in school, yea, these many centuries ago. What they never taught me was that Eli Whitney, the inventor of the cotton gin, also came up with the idea of interchangeable machine parts, like for rifles, so they could be mass-produced. Thus leading to the North's industrialization. In other words, this one man set the two parts of the country, North and South, on their divergent and opposing paths.

One man can make a difference.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 16, 2017 02:06 PM (WuRdj)

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Forgotten Weapons has a good video on Whitney's rlfle company. It arose out of financial difficulties related to him getting screwed on his patents for the cotton gin. Apparently, everybody on earth was ripping him off, so he moved into guns in the early 1800s.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (Svogv)

534 516 All I know is violent pushback from the right is exactly what Soros and teh Marxists want so why give it to them.



Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (XFue2)


You can't ask people to die if you're not willing to be the first corpse.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (WDCYi)

535 This could also be the beginnings of another Party. The SANE people of the country.

The GOPe have shown themselves to be frauds.

The Dems might as well re-name themselves the Identity Politics party...except for pro-lifers.

Everyone is taking Soros money.

We got nothin'. Again...long view. How to truly change things? Maybe finish what the Tea Party started. Their only problem was they were ahead of their time. Well, and more. But, still, they had balls.

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (NWmy4)

536 Because they have been facing off against antifa at every rally for over
a year. That's why they came ready to rumble and so did antifa.
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This was the danger in soft-pedaling political violence from the Left early on. Remember the Chicago Trump rally that was "shut down" by heckler's veto engineered by Mayor Twinkle Toes. Remember how the Left celebrated that, about how they claimed Trump wasn't tough enough for their "turf" (even though that turf is in the U.S. and governed by the Constitution? Remember Antifa, assorted Leftists and illegal immigration advocates (probably illegal themselves) running down and assaulting people leaving Trump rallies? Remember the woman leaving a Trump rally, backed up against glass doors and being pelted in the face mercilessly with eggs from a few feet away?

How much do you want to bet that many of the Unite the Right Rally goers saw that? That it made their blood boil too? That they were attracted to it, they wanted to DO something about it? So they joined a side and sought to counter street violence with some of their own.

This nonsense is only going to attract MORE violent misfits to both sides, and is only going to escalate in violence and the methods of violence. People are going to get shot soon unless the Left starts getting real about what is going on and their part in it.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (NrdxS)

537 >>True. It can be argued that the cotton gin saved slavery in the
south. Without it, slavery probably dies out or remains isolated to a
few agricultural products and gets banned in the early 1800s.
Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017

It's worth considering that the white minority in the South would not have banned slavery, gin or no, at least not as long as they were so vastly outnumbered by an uneducated mass of liberated blacks who would promptly become a socio/economic/political problem. I have a feeling they'd have retained the institution, if only to avoid the ramifications of a freed large majority of resentful ex-slaves.

Posted by: R. Zod Dwyer at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (Bdeb0)

538 You do know that the DOJ is going after antifa aggressively, don't you?

Will that be implemented before or after we're all dead?

Posted by: J. Sessions at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (mcI77)

539 it is odd, the left is playing the race card. I did not see this coming.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (DQdye)

540 To placate the PC crowd, I'd like to see Trump remove all the faces of the current presidents from Mr Rushmore...and replace them with his own face...with a big grin and the great hair.

Posted by: Mike at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (c056A)

541 It was all an "op".
Every. Single. Bit. of it.
Waiting on more background on the driver, as far as I'm concerned he might just be a planted false flag.

Nothing in any of this is real.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (Umfx1)

542 The right Reverend Dukes perhaps does not know that
it was people with his own skin color, and not George Washington, that
kidnapped and sold his ancestors into slavery. Posted by: redbanzai at August 16, 2017 02:01 PM (xDKH6)
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I know I am made fun of (usually deservedly), but I do recommend highly the POV documentary about two black children accepted into a very competitive NY preschool and school. Both families are upper-middle class (well-educated and hard-working) and the pressures on those little boys were scary.

The penultimate scenes were of one of the children going to Africa and being confronted with a 'king' there apologizing for selling his people into slavery. The kids didn't know how to handle it or process that reality. Don't know if those young people ever figured out how privileged they were, but the silence in the hotel was painful and compelling.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (MIKMs)

543 514

That's why there is an "alt-right". They are whites fed up with feckless "conservatives" who wring their hands and incessantly fret about being called racists by people who will hate them no matter what they do..

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (L2Umq)

544 Trump could label the Muslim Brotherhood and AntFa as terrorist organizations along with others.

I doubt people in his administration will allow this to happen.

I'd love to be proven wrong,

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (XFue2)

545 You're kidding right? Did you see the reporting before the girl was killed?

We're talking like two parallel trains, going side by side but never meeting.

You are focused on the media.
I'm focused on the impact on American people, largely through social media.

Because of the car killing, social media was all about the evil nazi right wing murderers. But without that, its about the masked guys beating people.

The media is always, no matter what, going to be against us, and lying, and covering up the facts. That will not change no matter what tactics we use. So we don't base our tactics on how the media reacts. They're irrelevant to the discussion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:14 PM (39g3+)

546 That picture of the defaced Columbus statue at the top of the thread, the photo on the right? Doesn't it look like that photo of Obama in "traditional' garb that Hillary's campaign floated in 2008?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2017 02:14 PM (7uYFy)

547 Ok...so in the far future, after the history has been erased and no one knows slavery ever existed, what will you use to leverage guilt from whites?

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2017 02:14 PM (x9c8r)

548 >>Yes. But I don't have faith in out govt institutions. I'd love to be proven wrong.

Then everything we talk about here everyday is completely pointless. We have no country.

The left has been agitating and organizing for this for years, what makes you think this was going to magically all turn around on the day Trump was elected? They are going to keep fighting and it is going to take a long time to turn things back in the right direction.

You don't win if you just lie down. Keep fighting and keep supporting guys like Trump. We are turning this thing around even if progress is slow.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (/tuJf)

549 It gets all over social media though. Until this last incident, Antifa had a nasty stink of brutal rioting thugs about them. Now they seem less so because one idiot drove a car into people. That's Pepe's point.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)

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Disagree. If nothing else it sharpened the dividing line in this country. It's become freedom of speech vs tyranny. Nobody that I've talked to have been hoodwinked by all of this. To a person they despise the supremacist nature of the "alt-right" oraganization, but everyone recognizes their right to voice their opinions.

They know that antifa/left/MFM is making a direct assault on the 1st Amendment.

Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (Fmupd)

550
If you presume I will passively accept personal violence in order to "win" then your presumption is grossly mistaken.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (S/hVx)

551 534 516 All I know is violent pushback from the right is exactly what Soros and teh Marxists want so why give it to them.



Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (XFue2)


You can't ask people to die if you're not willing to be the first corpse.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (WDCYi)

I have zero problem dying if my death will not be in vain.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (XFue2)

552 America by and large rejected the Klan. Maybe they will eventually see through BLM and reject them also. I want to see them as "marginalized" as the Klan.

I'd like to think that can happen but that'd require castration of their press boosters.

Your debate question:

If Hearst can send us to war over the Maine, can the WaPo and Carlos Slim incite civil war over BLM and the border?

Posted by: JEM at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (TppKb)

553 Ok...so in the far future, after the history has been erased and no one knows slavery ever existed, what will you use to leverage guilt from whites?
Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2017 02:14 PM (x9c8r)

What whites? We'll be gone by then.

Posted by: G. Gnome, with the red pointy hat at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (al6UK)

554 Custer, for all of his heroics during the Late Unpleasantness, was an arrogant shitheel who got his men killed. When your scouts come to you and say you're riding into a trap against an army that outnumbers and outguns (The Sioux were armed to the teeth with Henry and 1866 Winchester rifles, the assault rifle of its day) you, you listen to them.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (Svogv)

Little Big Horn was, in part, the result of Custer's arrogance. The other part was his faith in his men. He couldn't envision any Indian force, no matter how large, that could stand against them.

In fairness to Custer and his men, they were one of the finest cavalry units on the planet, brave and disciplined, but Custer should've remembered what happened to Fetterman, who made the same mistake for many of the same reasons.

As an aside, I've always been curious about those rifles. Who supplied them?

Posted by: troyriser at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (Fw5cQ)

555 Peter Schmuck sounds like something you need a anti-fungal for.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (QQ+il)

556 You can't deploy hot war tactics in this situation. It's one thing to talk big on the internet but another thing to do it.





Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 01:43 PM (XFue2)

As a private citizen, you can do a lot of things.

As the party in power of the government, you can employ RICO to strangle the funds from and imprison the leaders of these patently domestic terrorist organizations. That no state and the federal government has employed such tools yet is beyond me.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 16, 2017 02:16 PM (tbOMB)

557 522 True. It can be argued that the cotton gin saved slavery in the south. Without it, slavery probably dies out or remains isolated to a few agricultural products and gets banned in the early 1800s.

Machines like that were making slavery obsolete, because they meant you didn't need as many workers to do the job. So you need fewer slaves. Mechanism was making it cheaper to not use people, so you wouldn't need slaves for the fields. Its expensive to keep a slave, make no mistake. Unless they materially contribute to your wealth, they're just a net drain. Food, shelter, medical care, someone to watch them and keep them around, its all net expense.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (39g3+)

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It's an unpopular opinion, but I hold that slavery was going to die before the turn of the century, regardless of whether it was allowed to expand and regardless of who won the war. As the old joke goes, the reason you don't see the father in Gone with the Wind is because he's in his study, freaking out over finances!

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 02:16 PM (Svogv)

558 Keep in mind that all of this nonsense is an effort to regain the white house in 2020. The left needs one more term of utter leftist anti-American garbage to get rid of elections altogether and this is the first shot of the battle for 2020.

Everything you see is fake; bought and paid for by Soros, the DNC and anti-American forces on the left.

They are close, and with every simp pussy GOPe (like Peter Roskam) coming out openly against their party's president, the left will realize their games are working and will try that much harder for victory.

It's all to win in 2020. That's all. We will lose statues, monuments, personal property, freedom, etc. - and people will die - these are small prices to pay for the left to regain power.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 16, 2017 02:16 PM (a+WIL)

559 blaster, do you know what happened with the car incident? Will there be a conviction of any sort? Is the defendant even known to any of the organized element that had the permit? (doubtful) None of this is known - by anyone. So yes - using the mob's disinformation/no-information standard, we know what happened. And when none of that proves to be true, or is even turned on its head - do we back up and get a do-over?

I know a few things about the car incident, certainly not everything. But I am confident there will be a conviction.

I don't know anything about the driver other than he felt the need to come all the way from Ohio to hang out with Nazis. The Nazis and Klan were not a surprise at the protest, were they? Were they not organizers? I don't know nor do I care what he wrote in high school unless it was some essay about when he grew up he was going to take a car and plow it into a crowd. But I do know that he chose to go and be there among those people - and, yeah, he does not get a lot of sympathy from me. What did Trump say about him?

The driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family, and his country. You can call it terrorism. You can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want... And then you get into legal semantics. The driver of the car is a murderer, and what he did is a horrible thing.

I am where Trump is on it.

I strongly suspect that the guy did not go there - to Charlottesville - with the intent to kill anyone. I suspect that he got angry while there and lashed out with what he had at hand - his car. I don't know this, its what I suspect. He plowed into a group of people, then he backed up and hit them again. Yeah, maybe heat of the moment, but in that moment, he lost any defense that it was accidental or panic or whatever.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 02:16 PM (6mJ8T)

560 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:14 PM (39g3+)

The media is irrelevant to the discussion? WTF?

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:16 PM (mleV+)

561 People are going to get shot soon unless the Left starts getting real about what is going on and their part in it.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (NrdxS)




That will never happen but it would be nice if the cops did their job and not be casual observers

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2017 02:16 PM (493sH)

562 I have zero problem dying if my death will not be in vain.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (XFue2)

I prefer decimation of the other poor bastard's ranks.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (tbOMB)

563 I guess I gotta admit I was one of those pollyanna types that never thought it would go this far. In some ways I think I'm happier being less cynical, even if it makes me a poorer judge of human nature.

Posted by: Max Power at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (q177U)

564 I have zero problem dying if my death will not be in vain.

And that's the sad part, you will never know.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (QQ+il)

565 imagine all the celebrations we will have...c

Just like Florence and Normandie, 1992.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (MINbv)

566 To a person they despise the supremacist nature of the "alt-right" oraganization, but everyone recognizes their right to voice their opinions.

Yeah but because of the car killing, the violence all is considered to have been on the right. The truth that antifa was beating and attacking people is totally buried by the car. Without that, the story is much clearer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (39g3+)

567 >>Machines like that were making slavery obsolete,
because they meant you didn't need as many workers to do the job. So
you need fewer slaves. Mechanism was making it cheaper to not use
people, so you wouldn't need slaves for the fields. Its expensive to
keep a slave, make no mistake. Unless they materially contribute to your
wealth, they're just a net drain. Food, shelter, medical care, someone
to watch them and keep them around, its all net expense. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (39g3+)

No argument with any of the above, though you don't consider this: Just because "slavery is made obsolete," that doesn't change the fact that you now have 17 shiny, new, efficient cotton gins and 3.5 million unemployed, resentful cohabitants who'd probably like very much to turn the tables good and hard...

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (Bdeb0)

568 Are there any Cromwell statues? Wanna tear down something

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at August 16, 2017 01:09 PM (1ub+c)

I am sure there are one Hell of a lot of statues of Leftist icons, if one wants to get into a game of tit for tat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (2le8w)

569
Slavery was largely forced upon America by the British kingdom for the tax money. Read the Federalist Papers.

Cotton grown in the colonies fueled British textile mills who were at the time the best in the world

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 02:17 PM (lKyWE)

570 As an aside, I've always been curious about those rifles. Who supplied them?
Posted by: troyriser at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (Fw5cQ)
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Strawman buys in Indiana most likely.

Posted by: IP at August 16, 2017 02:18 PM (UmSfZ)

571 He plowed into a group of people, then he backed up and hit them again.

Did he? Is there a good reconstruction of the event on the net? With all the videos linked?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 16, 2017 02:18 PM (QQ+il)

572 *heads to army surplus store to get supplies to bring down the Fremont WA Lenin statue*

Posted by: Sharkman at August 16, 2017 02:18 PM (aLFi2)

573 (s)he who is unable to learn history must erase it.

Posted by: klaftern at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (RuIsu)

574
Anyone have an idea of the significance of Nov. 4, 2017? Why are they planning a huge turnout that day for "protests"?

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM


I was wondering the same thing. I've skimmed articles about it but haven't seen the reason for that particular date.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (IqV8l)

575 "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." - Barack Obama, 2008

http://tinyurl.com/ang5zap

Commie paramilitaries now attack those guilty of thoughtcrime across the country with near impunity. Mission accomplished?

Posted by: FH at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (FGvan)

576 The media is irrelevant to the discussion? WTF?

Step back and think about this objectively a moment.

If something will be a certain way no matter what you do, or how you act, or what tactics you use, then its not part of your tactical analysis. Its like bringing up gravity every time someone discusses how to take out a machine gun nest. BUT WHAT ABOUT GRAVITY??? Gravity is just there.

Nothing we do will get the media to report the truth. Nothing we do will make them friendly or helpful. Nothing we do will change their narrative. So they're irrelevant, they've made themselves meaningless. We plan and act without even considering the media, because they're simply not part of the equation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (39g3+)

577 Social-justice America: anything deemed crazy by normal people today will be made mandatory tomorrow.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (BWL+E)

578 Wow. Know I should never be surprised, but. Rush just put a clip on of the incredibly stupid, ignorant Rep. Clyburn. The guy barfed up a ridiculous bunch of crap about how Trump's election is like Hitler's election - in the process getting literally every single "fact" wrong (and materially wrong, not trivia-wrong).

Of course there's nobody there on-air to interrupt, and humiliate him and scold him for his attempt to use lies and ignorance to whip up racism and hate.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (QDnY+)

579 >>>Posted by: Sponge at August 16, 2017 01:58 PM (xttKs)

Thanks. No need to bother - I'm sure I can find it with those tips. I have run across this other Jefferson quote. Does this sound familiar to anyone?


The Ambassador [of Tripoli] answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (/qEW2)

580 >>Anyone have an idea of the significance of Nov. 4, 2017? Why are they planning a huge turnout that day for "protests"?

Posted by: Eli Cash


That's to give both the Far Left and the Far Right enough time to buy weapons and body armor for the peaceful protest.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (B9t7n)

581

I can't tell you how I feel about all of this here. It's too vulgar.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (fceHP)

582 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (XFue2)

So you advocated for people to take a beating resulting in possible death but now have a caveat for yourself that you would be willing to do it only if it's not in vain.

Stop digging.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (mleV+)

583 Ok...so in the far future, after the history has been erased and no one knows slavery ever existed, what will you use to leverage guilt from whites?
Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2017 02:14 PM (x9c8r)

What whites? We'll be gone by then.
Posted by: G. Gnome, with the red pointy hat at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (al6UK)

I should explain. I watched an interesting video from Sargon of Akkad (sp?) on YouTube. The number of them that want whites to "go extinct" is insane. And they've been acting on it for some time now.

This is why American Leftists don't include us in the discussion and why it's their job to shut us up: We are irrelevant because we are going extinct.

Posted by: G. Gnome, with the red pointy hat at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (al6UK)

584 You know what else was built by slaves? The Colliseum! Built by slaves for other slsves to di in! It's got to go! And don't even get me started on Pompeii.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (Nwg0u)

585 OT-from the Daily Caller

A group of antifascist protesters armed with purple shields and bats showed up to the Wednesday funeral of a woman mowed down by a white supremacist who struck her with a vehicle.

Antifa, a collection of left-wing protesters, decided to crash the funeral of Heather Heyer, a white woman who died after a white supremacist drove his car into a crowd of protesters during a white nationalist riot.


How thoughtful of them/sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (iVOAv)

586 >>Will that be implemented before or after we're all dead?

What magic world do you live in where things that have taken decades to build get turned around in the blink of an eye particular in the government? Did you expect the left to just say "Oh fuck it, Trump won. Let's give up."?

Hell no, they have doubled down and are fighting back with every weapon they have including fighting every legal EO Trump enacts, sabotaging the confirmation process which has resulted in most agencies working with a fraction of their headcount mostly notably in the DOJ where they are still trying to fill federal prosecutor jobs.

Have just a little patience. We are month 7.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (/tuJf)

587 "Disagree. If nothing else it sharpened the dividing line in this country. It's become freedom of speech vs tyranny. Nobody that I've talked to have been hoodwinked by all of this. To a person they despise the supremacist nature of the "alt-right" oraganization, but everyone recognizes their right to voice their opinions."

Same experience but no one even references "Alt-Right," it's more "Nazis," just like Antifa is described as "Communist."

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (KqPBq)

588 Durnit, I knowed them Blue Devils down in North Carolinie weren't no good. There college is named after David Duke! No wander theys so offensive to me. Burn it down!! (At least take away there basketball championships.)

Posted by: UK Wildcat Redneck at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (VKiUF)

589 It is a personality flaw of mine that I can sort of understand and accept theft and thieves, but vandalism makes me want to string these guys up and rip their balls off. I know it makes no logical sense, but it is the way I am.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (kUmUV)

590 554 Custer, for all of his heroics during the Late Unpleasantness, was an arrogant shitheel who got his men killed. When your scouts come to you and say you're riding into a trap against an army that outnumbers and outguns (The Sioux were armed to the teeth with Henry and 1866 Winchester rifles, the assault rifle of its day) you, you listen to them.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 01:57 PM (Svogv)

Little Big Horn was, in part, the result of Custer's arrogance. The other part was his faith in his men. He couldn't envision any Indian force, no matter how large, that could stand against them.

In fairness to Custer and his men, they were one of the finest cavalry units on the planet, brave and disciplined, but Custer should've remembered what happened to Fetterman, who made the same mistake for many of the same reasons.

As an aside, I've always been curious about those rifles. Who supplied them?
Posted by: troyriser at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (Fw5cQ)

===========

InRange TV has done a few videos relating to this. Apparently, they were bought on the open market or acquired in trade. The Sioux, et al, were also armed with other repeaters like the Spencer, and other breechloaders like Henry rifles. The cavalry was woefully underarmed with Trapdoor Springfields.

Posted by: Jackal at August 16, 2017 02:21 PM (Svogv)

591 That's why there is an "alt-right". They are whites fed up with feckless "conservatives" who wring their hands and incessantly fret about being called racists by people who will hate them no matter what they do..
Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 16, 2017 02:13 PM (L2Umq)

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They're the ones who are willing to leave their air-conditioned homes and go out and stand between American values and the mob.

Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 02:21 PM (Fmupd)

592 I prefer decimation of the other poor bastard's ranks.
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Complete annihilation would bring me joy.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 02:21 PM (0PmgH)

593
You are focused on the media.

I'm focused on the impact on American people, largely through social media.



Because of the car killing, social media was all about the evil nazi
right wing murderers. But without that, its about the masked guys
beating people.



The media is always, no matter what, going to be against us, and
lying, and covering up the facts. That will not change no matter what
tactics we use. So we don't base our tactics on how the media reacts.
They're irrelevant to the discussion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:14 PM (39g3+)

Even without the guy from Ohio running someone over, this was never going to be about Antifa in the media... social or otherwise.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 16, 2017 02:21 PM (xDKH6)

594
I was wondering the same thing. I've skimmed articles about it but haven't seen the reason for that particular date.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (IqV8l)



The 2018 elections are on November 6th. They want 48 hours in the news cycle and they want to terrify enough people about what will happen if they vote.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 02:21 PM (mf5HN)

595 Literally not talking about lying down. Talking about not responding to their provocations, which could be violent.

Non-violence does win in certain situations and I think it's ok to discuss reasonably and rationally if this is the case.

Violence is not a winning strategy in this case, if you think it is then make your argument.

Is government the answer? Then make your point, pros and cons.

Going down the same road as we have been going is a guaranteed loss.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:21 PM (XFue2)

596 @522 Machines like that were making slavery obsolete

Omanoman, you at least are "awaize" from the received wisdom on this.

"Ginning" cotton was extremely expensive, so bad that the crop was a high luxury item and about to go out of style. The mechanical cotton gin replaced all the slaves who had to card the seeds out-- freeing them up to grow cotton.

Areas that used slave labor for traditional farm crops were already in financial trouble by the end of the importation era. Industrial-scale farming of commodity-traded crops gave slavery a new lease on life.

Has Pratt and Whitney ever been named in a reparations suit?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 02:22 PM (H5rtT)

597 And sheesh I just completely and totally misread all the things.

In my defense, I'm dim.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 02:22 PM (mf5HN)

598 520 517 Wish I spoke Polish.
Posted by: DanInMN


A Pole would never leave.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (B9t7n)

Nor would the Irish. Well, as long as there is alcohol we'll stay.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2017 02:10 PM (jxbfJ)

Like I said, if it was just me it wouldn't even be a thought. Two daughters changes your perspective on that sort of thing because I think none of us here harbor any illusions about what happens to girl-children when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: DanInMN at August 16, 2017 02:22 PM (h5ffp)

599 Washington, DC is 0-fer-2. Washington and Columbus!

Posted by: Afroman at August 16, 2017 02:22 PM (8dbpY)

600 Slavery was largely forced upon America by the British kingdom for the tax money. Read the Federalist Papers.

I wouldn't say largely; slavery was economically feasible and a normal part of human culture for about as long as people have been on this earth.

Its hard for us to relate to but until the late 1800s, it was hard to just survive. it took a lot of work to do everything and nobody had time or energy to do it all, every day. So you had servants who did all that crap which left you to do the rest. Even poor people had servants. Sometimes, a lot of times, those servants were slaves.

So it was part of culture and economics, part of survival to have menial labor which was sometimes -- often in some cases -- not paid beyond basic needs (incidentally, some slaves were actually paid a small allowance, as well).

So while pressure from the Brits was making slavery even more necessary, people would have had them anyway. It was, until reliable, fairly cheap mechanical devices came along, the cheapest way to get the product on the market. And if you reject basic Christian concepts of human value and loving your neighbor, its a reasonable one as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:23 PM (39g3+)

601 This is all too depressing... I'm gonna go eat something ... Preferably full of carbs which I'm not supposed to have...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2017 02:23 PM (O2RFr)

602 It is a personality flaw of mine that I can sort of
understand and accept theft and thieves, but vandalism makes me want to
string these guys up and rip their balls off. I know it makes no logical
sense, but it is the way I am.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (kUmUV)

Cause at least with theft, there is a profit motive that is understandable. With vandalism, its just wanton destruction that no one gains from.

Because some people just want to watch the world burn.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 16, 2017 02:24 PM (xDKH6)

603 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Jefferson

I think we are fast approaching that time.

Posted by: JC at August 16, 2017 02:24 PM (3GSgE)

604 "And that's the sad part, you will never know."

Religion and mystics:
Your as dead now as you will ever be.
The (nominally) dead understand that life is a psychological drama and have gone on to their next gig.
I am ... is the question you answer with your life.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (cfHE9)

605 582 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:15 PM (XFue2)

So you advocated for people to take a beating resulting in possible death but now have a caveat for yourself that you would be willing to do it only if it's not in vain.

Stop digging.
Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (mleV+)

I'm advocating a strategy and tactics used in the 1960's and at other times in history to be used here.

How is this digging a hole?

Nobody wants to die in vain.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (XFue2)

606 Machines like that were making slavery obsolete, because they meant you didn't need as many workers to do the job. So you need fewer slaves. Mechanism was making it cheaper to not use people, so you wouldn't need slaves for the fields. Its expensive to keep a slave, make no mistake. Unless they materially contribute to your wealth, they're just a net drain. Food, shelter, medical care, someone to watch them and keep them around, its all net expense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:11 PM (39g3+)


Just as with LBJ the radicals struck while the iron was hot. Before the Kennedys and LBJ race relations were better than today and contrary to popular textbooks the majority black community was well on its way to autonomy just like their minority predecessors the Italians, Polish, and Irish etc. Same with the slavery issue, it was on its way out and was beginning to compete with the north. Both times in history events for Americans would have been better left alone.

Corporatists and tyrants will start it and they will fight to the bitter end.

Slavery was on its way out and if left alone

Posted by: gNewt at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (EeUIW)

607 All to be replaced by statues of Kark Marx if the Leftists are allowed to.

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (pPKG5)

608 Even without the guy from Ohio running someone over, this was never going to be about Antifa in the media... social or otherwise.

Its a tougher sell with the targets being white supremacist types, but there would have been footage and images of the people being beaten with clubs etc on social media like the last bunch of times the two groups have met. The death changed the entire tone and picture of the event -- and then there are the cops who died in the helicopter crash, which is basically being ignored. Do we even know why it went down?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (39g3+)

609 603 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Jefferson

I think we are fast approaching that time.

Posted by: JC at August 16, 2017 02:24 PM (3GSgE)


Any day now. Expect the best outcome, prepare for the worst.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2017 02:26 PM (mcI77)

610 George Washington Carver's name should be changed, too.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2017 01:19 PM (yL25O)

"George Washington Peanut" has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2017 02:26 PM (2le8w)

611 I suspect that he got angry while there and lashed out with what he had at hand - his car. I don't know this, its what I suspect. He plowed into a group of people, then he backed up and hit them again.
==

I tend to agree with you that he didn't drive down there with a pure heart and mind.

But it doesn't matter. After seeing the videos linked here, I would absolutely believe that he got scared and was trying to break out of the mob that had surrounded his car.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 16, 2017 02:26 PM (10LGw)

612 well blaster what Trump said about being a "murderer" was stupid, might even prove to be problematic for prosecution (Nixon and Manson).

The rest of what he said was ill-advised, too. Unless he knows specifics you and I don't know (where's that commenter that knows all this? I keep referring people to him).

All that matters is that someone was killed and people were injured. The facts leading to that outcome are all that matters.

And you are DISMISSED from the jury pool, dude! So that's some good news for you, anyway!


Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 02:27 PM (QDnY+)

613 597 And sheesh I just completely and totally misread all the things.

In my defense, I'm dim.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 02:22 PM (mf5HN)

OT but I've been watching Veep the past few years, and the character Amy reminds me of what a young Alex would/could be like.... This is a compliment btw.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:27 PM (XFue2)

614 I don't think they can keep this momentum up till November 4th.

A lot of news cycles between then and now.

Posted by: Max Power at August 16, 2017 02:27 PM (q177U)

615 Remember slavery in places survived the American Civil War

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2017 02:28 PM (pPKG5)

616 btw: i just wanted to note the dave berry interview linked in the sidebar is really nice. he mentions "ace" in a complementary sense. it runs 1 hour and goes by fast. he's sane. it's refreshing. check it out.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 16, 2017 01:21 PM (AxFdW)

Apparently, he did vote for Hillary. So, not that sane.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2017 02:28 PM (2le8w)

617 Nov4 is the 100 year anniversary of the bolshevik revolution.m

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 16, 2017 02:28 PM (6J38E)

618 Glenn Beck.

He's crazy. And yeah, I am done with him.

But there was a point when he was relevant, and had some non-crazy things to say.

And one of them was do not give the Left the provocation they so desperately want.

Does anyone think that it would have been a good thing for the pro-statue side to have opened fire on the Antifa types?

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 02:28 PM (6mJ8T)

619

1174 Days
10 Hours
17 Minutes
Seconds

Before I vote for Donald Trump for POTUS, again.
After watching the absolute meltdown of the left and the GOPe, I can't wait.

http://www.270towin.com/2020-countdown-clock/
you can use the code for the countdown clock here for your website

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 16, 2017 02:29 PM (fceHP)

620 At least the Dems don't gleefully deficate all over their base.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at August 16, 2017 01:54 PM (L2Umq)


They can't because those people have left the Democrats.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 16, 2017 02:29 PM (hLRSq)

621 Slavery was on its way out and if left alone

Yeah, the smart thing would have been for the North to help the South get away from Slavery, educate and work with freed slaves to find a better life, and slowly move away from the system. Freeing all of them all at once caused huge problems with poverty and did the slaves no good at all.

Booker T Washington wrote about watching freed slaves given money go buy fine clothes, a carriage to ride around in, and living in style then having no money and no clue what to do next. That's why he started the Tuskeegee Institute to begin with.

It was a huge, godawful, stupid national tragedy pushed by arrogant, inflexible people on both sides. Everyone was to blame, and hundreds of thousands of soldiers lost their lives as a result.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:29 PM (39g3+)

622 He plowed into a group of people, then he backed up and hit them again.
************************************


The video I saw showed him plowing into the back of a car.

Posted by: gNewt at August 16, 2017 02:29 PM (EeUIW)

623 Too bad Limbaugh doesn't have a bit (or a lot) more historical understanding. His response to the Clyburn idiocy was about a 2 on a scale of 10.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 02:29 PM (QDnY+)

624 "A woman who is considering running for GA governor, Stacey Abrams (who
is originally from Madison, WI) is calling for the blasting off of the
face of Stone Mountain."

At Netroots Nation (that spinoff from the _Daily Kos_), black Abrams supporters were lined up in front of the podium chanting slogans as another liberal gubernatorial wannabe was trying to speak, holding up signs in front and drowning out the speaker.

Said candidate being a white woman. So the race card is being played with increasing frequency and intensity within the Democratic primary candidacy system. This will get interesting.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 16, 2017 02:29 PM (ujwCG)

625 Saw this morning Nov 4 the Leftists are planning mayhem

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2017 02:30 PM (pPKG5)

626 I'm advocating a strategy and tactics used in the 1960's and at other times in history to be used here.



How is this digging a hole?



Nobody wants to die in vain.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (XFue2)

Pep... that strategy ONLY works against people with a conscience who do not really want you dead. It worked against the British in India and in the American South in the 60's because the people there were fundamentally decent (and not coincidentally from the same traditions). It would not have worked against Hitler or Stalin and it will not work against people who believe as Hitler and Stalin did.

Posted by: redbanzai at August 16, 2017 02:30 PM (xDKH6)

627 Some Buzzfeed writer posted on Twitter today that Tucker Carlson had offered a defense of slavery on his show last night. The actual screenshot he attached actually had the words "SLAVERY IS EVIL" right there on the screen, but all the blue checkmarks are going on about how terrible Carlson is.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 16, 2017 02:30 PM (KUTP5)

628 The cross of tyranny is stained with the blood of ignorant people who are easily misled.

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 02:30 PM (cfHE9)

629 Nood...

Posted by: IP at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (UmSfZ)

630 You do know that the DOJ is going after antifa aggressively, don't you?

Sure it is, or at least it will be...when Jeff Sessions wakes up from his afternoon nap.

Posted by: GMan at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (sxq57)

631 And you are DISMISSED from the jury pool, dude! So that's some good news for you, anyway!


Posted by: rhomboid at August 16, 2017 02:27 PM (QDnY+)


Yeah no worries they would never let me near a jury. I have a great answer for voir dire, that I would be good on a jury because I can tell if someone is guilty just by looking at them.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (6mJ8T)

632


"But it doesn't matter. After seeing the videos linked here, I would absolutely believe that he got scared and was trying to break out of the mob that had surrounded his car."

You meant to say he did it on purpose!!!!!


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Alt-Rightie Esq at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (0WCz5)

633 Nobody wants to die in vain.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (XFue2)

Nobody gets out alive, pal. Everybody dies. Whether or not our passing has any significance is entirely up to us.

Posted by: troyriser at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (Fw5cQ)

634 Religion and mystics:
Your as dead now as you will ever be.

What does that mean? The words of "mystics" like Teresa of Avila, Francois Fenelon, St John of the Cross and Yes, St John of the 4th Gospel and live on. Millions of people read their works and are positively influenced by them . They've gone to be God and their works endure

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (iVOAv)

635 400) I got an island

Posted by: Biig Al Fredo at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (iWo0u)

636 Posted by: DanInMN

Just screwing with you.
When I was little I asked my Dad what would happen if the Soviets hit us with H-Bombs. He said that if anyone survived the Soviets would invade. They would use the Leftists in the Country to round up all the gun owners and republicans and then kill or imprison them. Then they would round up the Leftists themselves and kill them--no camps for them because they were a bigger threat.
I asked him what we would do and he said he hoped we were simply killed in the first strike because after that things would be very ugly.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (B9t7n)

637
I was wondering the same thing. I've skimmed articles about it but haven't seen the reason for that particular date.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2017 02:19 PM (IqV8l)


The 2018 elections are on November 6th. They want 48 hours in the news cycle and they want to terrify enough people about what will happen if they vote.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 16, 2017 02:21 PM


But the November 4 shindig is for this November 2017.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (IqV8l)

638 I suspect that he got angry while there and lashed out with what he had
at hand - his car. I don't know this, its what I suspect. He plowed into
a group of people, then he backed up and hit them again.

==



I tend to agree with you that he didn't drive down there with a pure heart and mind.



But it doesn't matter. After seeing the videos linked here, I would
absolutely believe that he got scared and was trying to break out of the
mob that had surrounded his car.
---------------------------------------------

I think the most likely scenario is that he got wound up by being attacked in front of do-nothing cops on the way to his car after the engineered "unlawful assembly" declaration, and a wound-up mentally ill guy (prescribed antipsychotics, washed out of Basic) did what came crazily.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 16, 2017 02:31 PM (NrdxS)

639 Does anyone think that it would have been a good thing for the pro-statue side to have opened fire on the Antifa types?

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2017 02:28 PM (6mJ8T)

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It will be the antifa that fires the first real shot. As soon as they're confident they have the media's 100% support and the politicians are whimpering under their desks it'll happen. Sooner than we think.

Posted by: Soona at August 16, 2017 02:33 PM (Fmupd)

640 I've searched and searched and cannot find a thing by this Dave Berry who everybody is quoting here.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2017 02:34 PM (H5rtT)

641 But the November 4 shindig is for this November 2017.
=======

All I can find is that there are elections in NJ and VA on November 7.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 02:34 PM (vg8iE)

642 >>The video I saw showed him plowing into the back of a car.

Video I've seen shows him running down a number of people before hitting the back of a car including one woman who was hit so hard she flew over the parked car and landed on it's hood.

I've seen a video from behind the car he was driving and you could not see the parked car. All you saw was a crowd of people. I don't think he was trying to ram a car, I don't think he even knew it was there.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2017 02:34 PM (/tuJf)

643 November 4 is a full moon.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 16, 2017 02:35 PM (vg8iE)

644 "Because training for war can be as deadly as the war itself. And gravity is unforgiving."

5 missing from Army helicopter
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=74039

Prayers up...

Posted by: SMFH at August 16, 2017 02:36 PM (sB1y1)

645 I've seen a video from behind the car he was driving and you could not
see the parked car. All you saw was a crowd of people. I don't think he
was trying to ram a car, I don't think he even knew it was there.
-------------------------------

Yes, and I think it was odd that there was a car stopped in the road, and as you watch the video it doesn't *look* occupied by a driver immediately after impact.

I had a thought that it might have been put there to prevent the safe exit of rally-goers in their cars. It's just a hunch.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 16, 2017 02:37 PM (NrdxS)

646 It was a huge, godawful, stupid national tragedy pushed by arrogant, inflexible people on both sides. Everyone was to blame, and hundreds of thousands of soldiers lost their lives as a result.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:29 PM (39g3+)
***********************************

Another part of the tragedy is that many slaves, although illiterate, were skilled. Yes, they picked cotton but they also maintained the plantations. They were blacksmiths, wheelwrights, carpenters, - they were the maintenance crew that kept the plantation functioning. After the war this and the self respect that went with it was stolen from them.

Posted by: gNewt at August 16, 2017 02:37 PM (EeUIW)

647 Takiyah Fatima Thompson

*snort*. Make her take a lie detector test.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 02:39 PM (/qEW2)

648 "What does that mean?"

That you live eternally. That you have no beginning and have no end.

One mystic claims Jesus is the power of God to forget. God can never forget. That mystic also claims your time on Earth is over when you remember what you forgot.

That mystic says that Jesus forgets your sins and you are forgiven.

What can I say? That is why they call them mystics. :-)

Posted by: Mudd at August 16, 2017 02:40 PM (cfHE9)

649
Slavery was on its way out and if left alone

The Kansas-Nebraska of 1854 was seen as a way to extend slavery all the way to the west coast below the Mason Dixon thus giving slavery a new life and was one of the hotly disputed issues that lead up to the Civil war.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 02:40 PM (lKyWE)

650 471 Social media makes things loom larger than they really are, and the media follows social media like the voice of God, so you can pretty much discount 90% of the outrage and voices of screaming ninnies out there. Its like looking through the wrong end of the telescope, you're not getting a view of the big picture, you're getting a smashed and distorted little picture.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2017 02:03 PM (39g3+)
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So true, and been this way for years.

Remember when NYT said they were gonna let social media be their fact checkers and got rid of their own fact checkers.

Rofl

How could anyone take that paper seriously now?

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 16, 2017 02:42 PM (NWmy4)

651 589 It is a personality flaw of mine that I can sort of understand and accept theft and thieves, but vandalism makes me want to string these guys up and rip their balls off. I know it makes no logical sense, but it is the way I am.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 16, 2017 02:20 PM (kUmUV)
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It's not a flaw. It's sound moral intuition.
The thief who steals my fancy Mercedes does so because he wants it. He loves it.

The goon who smashes it out of resentment, who would rather it be destroyed than have someone else enjoy it, is acting out of pure hate.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 16, 2017 02:44 PM (0jtPF)

652 Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 02:40 PM (lKyWE)

I thought the civil war wasn't about slavery. /s

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:44 PM (mleV+)

653 412 Does this mean that Denzel Washington must forfeit any statues he's been awarded?
Posted by: Stu Podaso

It means he has to change his last name.
Not to mention the State of Washington, and Washington, D.C. Have to change those too.
Then there are all the Washington, Jefferson, and Jackson counties and cities throughout the nation. Have to change those too.

Dog whistle purity laws.

Posted by: scoville at August 16, 2017 02:45 PM (5Oaoe)

654 The Kansas-Nebraska of 1854 was seen as a way to extend slavery all the way to the west coast below the Mason Dixon thus giving slavery a new life and was one of the hotly disputed issues that lead up to the Civil war.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 16, 2017 02:40 PM (lKyWE)
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Sam Houston made a speech about that. He blamed the Free Soil party and another group.

He predicted it would cause great conflict, that the South would secede, the would be a great bloody war, and the South would not only lose but suffer greatly.

Posted by: gNewt at August 16, 2017 02:47 PM (EeUIW)

655 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 16, 2017 02:44 PM (0jtPF)

I wish the guy would have just vandalized my wallet instead of stealing it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 16, 2017 02:50 PM (mleV+)

656 These guys are trying to destroy our history so they can control our future.

Posted by: Iblis at August 16, 2017 02:52 PM (0hKBx)

657 @656 Orwell.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2017 02:55 PM (/qEW2)

658 I de-lurk long enough to say that this won't end well. Stop appeasing those who WILL NOT be appeased. Ever. Even if the world is reduced to smoking rubble (something they seem to want), it wouldn't be enough. So stop appeasing.
I now return to my former lurking state.

Posted by: biblio at August 16, 2017 02:57 PM (6FY0P)

659 As long as they're hating on racist Americans who put people in camps, maybe we can get FDR off the dime.

Posted by: Manzanar at August 16, 2017 02:59 PM (5ivNH)

660 Holding Historic figures in history to modern standards is ridiculous. Just like holding present day people responsible for the past is ridiculous, dishonest and evil. The left has jumped the shark.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at August 16, 2017 03:03 PM (zZWkn)

661 I'm advocating a strategy and tactics used in the 1960's and at other times in history to be used here.

How is this digging a hole?

Nobody wants to die in vain.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 16, 2017 02:25 PM (XFue2)

That strategy worked in the '60's because the mainstream media was supportive of the Civil Rights movement. Very much so, in fact.

Today the MSM is the propaganda organ of the Enemy. Do you think Pravda carried articles bemoaning the sad fate of the Kulaks?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 16, 2017 03:19 PM (2le8w)

662 I feel like going to that BLM graffiti and adding the postscript: "No, they don't" and watch their heads explode complaining about the defacement of their defacement.

Posted by: Socratease at August 16, 2017 03:30 PM (FqHs5)

663 "I'm guessing it's heavy on "liberation" and about a Christian as Barry's pal Rev. Wright"

I'm also guessing that the "Bishop" isn't averse to images of George Washington when they're printed on green paper.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's Ex-Dog at August 16, 2017 04:14 PM (SI9EQ)

664 Washington, DC. Change it to Booker T., DC

Let's put Rosa Parks on all the money.

Virginia, the Virgin Queen, gave land to her nobles which owned slaves. So let's rename Virginia Obamaland.

Rushmore. A suitcase nuke oughta do it, and shit, only wing nuts go there, so who cares if it's contaminated for a hundred years or so.

Every boulevard or street in the country named Washington or Jefferson needs to be renamed. Let's go with Sharpton, guys like that.

The Washington Park neighborhood in Denver, full of fine historic homes, let's go with Douchebag Park.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 16, 2017 05:03 PM (jbmL5)

665 I'm all for the antifa and their ilk destroying everything they can. The more the better. Eventually they will do something that finally wakes the other side up. Right now they have all the cards. But thankfully hubris looms large.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 16, 2017 06:23 PM (pUDQf)

666 Dear Theodore,

You didn't build that museum.

Posted by: B. Hussein Smithson at August 16, 2017 06:36 PM (Ndje9)

667 Gee..just like the Taliban tearing down the ancient statue of the Buddha, because, God forbid, history existed before Mohammed did.

News Bulletin : people don't fight to get into a country that's evil.

Just as I thought, civilization depended upon Christianity and the West to rise above barbarian hordes.

Hey! If you'd stayed in your native countries you'd be shitting into a hole, cutting your women's sex organs, and burning people alive in cages. How's that child rape thing going with you guys?

Posted by: Topple This at August 17, 2017 11:31 AM (SJ184)

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