Stanford University Researchers Find That Cops Who Are Polite To Black Drivers Are Actually Being Disrespectful...Or Something

Heather MacDonald eviscerates the study in her article in the current "City Journal." Conjuring Disrespect: A much-touted study of Oakland police shows researchers' determination to find racism, not cops' bias. I Like MacDonald, even though she is a bit gung-ho in her defense of policing in America. But her criticisms are right on target.

The attempt to find systemic police bias has come to this: the difference between an officer saying “uh” and saying “that, that’s.” According to Stanford University researchers, police officers in Oakland, California, use one of those verbal tics more often with white drivers and the other more often with black drivers. If you can guess which tic conveys “respect” and which “disrespect,” you may have a career ahead of you in the exploding field of bias psychology.

I'm no fan of the current trend in America, which is to allow the militarization of police, and turn a blind eye to the obvious issues of unbridled use of force and tolerance of aggressive and sometimes illegal behavior. But that doesn't mean that cops are racists...it means that some of them are jerks. And the rest of them -- the ones who tolerate the lawlessness of the few -- are also culpable. But it is pretty clear that the cops in Oakland who were tarred as racist were actually behaving in a rational, controlled and intelligent manner. Tailoring how they speak to people based on the crazy notion that everyone is a bit different seems to me to be the smart way to do it.

But the study's conclusion was no doubt written before the data were analyzed. The authors knew what they were going to find, so really, it was just going through the motions.

I recall a study published last year that discovered some interesting facts: On the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.

But that's based on numbers and objective data that can't really be massaged too much. Feelings are much easier to manipulate, and Stanford's researchers certainly did a bang-up job of that!

Posted by: CBD at 03:10 PM

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1 Finally!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:00 PM (10wur)

2 Top ten, now to get the others.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 15, 2017 03:02 PM (tbOMB)

3 LOL

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:02 PM (xJa6I)

4 Roomy in here.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:02 PM (U76Nz)

5 So, "OTTA THE CAR LONG HAIR!" Is right out now?

Posted by: Strobe at August 15, 2017 03:02 PM (gbWkA)

6 I used to run around be pals with the Oakland Vice squad. If there were any blacks that they absolutely hated it was pimps who made their living off of women, both black and white.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 15, 2017 03:03 PM (mpXpK)

7 Steiner's Not Coming.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 15, 2017 03:03 PM (XMDuf)

8 It's being sarcastic, Einstein!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 15, 2017 03:03 PM (mJ8mX)

9 So, let me get this clear.

If cops are nice to blacks, it's bad.

If cops re not nice to blacks, it's bad.

In face, the only good thing that cops do is stand down when mobs commit violent crimes against people and property.

Gotcha.

Posted by: shibumi at August 15, 2017 03:03 PM (aT+Bx)

10 Statistics show that cops are less trigger happy when dealing with violent blacks than they are with violent whites. Go figure ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 15, 2017 03:03 PM (+7/1f)

11 It appears every college is filled to the brim with lunatic leftists. Luckily they don't believe in breeding, so the imported horde of savages will eventually rid us of these lunatic leftists.

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 15, 2017 03:03 PM (vkS2Z)

12 There's no pleasing some people. We should stop trying.

And stop paying for studies by them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:03 PM (xJa6I)

13 Now I'm going to google some images of sexy police costumes and eat some eggs on toast.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (xJa6I)

14
When the institutional Left has gone so far off the deep end that it makes its first cousins, the Nazis and white supremacists look like innocent victims....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (mbhDw)

15 Lamont got pulled over by a white cop who wanted to see his junk!

Posted by: Fred Sanford at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (bc2Lc)

16 If you can't see the racism.everywhere, why you can onlt be a racist.

Now, can I haz several million dollars to do a study to confirm my point.

Posted by: Mallamutt at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (fCZus)

17 How much money did this study cost?

Posted by: NCKate at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (8Xttu)

18 What a lot of black people don't get is that cops are dicks to white people too.

I have been in numerous situations where I clearly wasn't the "bad guy" and the cop was screaming and engaging in all sorts of histrionics that if I was black, I would be sure it would have to be racism because that would be the only logical explanation.

Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (V0Jl1)

19 That's really odd. The only thing a policeman has ever said to me is "License and Registration, Please."

Posted by: Harmon Ne at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (m9X4Y)

20 Dear Aces;

I am a convicted felon illegal alien living in Georgia.

Who should I cast my votes for in Alabama today?

Posted by: Serge Lastminute at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (Ndje9)

21 Confederate veterans are considered bonafide Us Veterans under US Code Title 38. Obviously that's the racist version of the US Code.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (6eWxL)

22 I'm only here because I so wanted to be top 10... *sigh*

Posted by: regular joe at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (O50yS)

23 I recall a study published last year that discovered some interesting facts: On the most extreme use of force, officer-involved shootings, we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.

I recall studies a few years ago that said police shoot more white people than they do blacks even though there are more blacks involved in major crimes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (mpXpK)

24 13 Now I'm going to google some images of sexy police costumes and eat some eggs on toast.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (xJa6I)

*Goolag gives you images of Police in Egg Costumes and makes you Sexy Toast, instead*

Posted by: Hikaru at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (XMDuf)

25 Willowed:

703 It was democRats that erected the statues in the first place. Rallying the anti-black biases the first time. Now they are behind the statue destruction, rallying the blacks. After watching the black turnout against Trump, they are desperate to fix that problem, without having a black on the ticket.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (jsWA8)

26 This really is a stupid country, isn't it?

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (zSVEm)

27 >>>What a lot of black people don't get is that cops are dicks to white people too.

Eggs-zackly!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (10wur)

28 When the institutional Left has gone so far off the deep end that it makes its first cousins, the Nazis and white supremacists look like innocent victims....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

It's like I said yesterday, when I find myself rooting for the Nazis in a streetfight, things have gone horribly, horribly wrong indeed.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (AM1GF)

29 Is it any wonder many cops -- not the politicized brass, but just average beat cops -- are opting to take a hands off attitude? If you're wrong either way then it's better to be wrong in a low-energy state.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (RD7QR)

30 This study, brought to you by the unbridled use of your tax dollars. Thanks America! Signed your betters in Academia.

Posted by: Strobe at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (gbWkA)

31 24 13 Now I'm going to google some images of sexy police costumes and eat some eggs on toast.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (xJa6I)

*Goolag gives you images of Police in Egg Costumes and makes you Sexy Toast, instead*
Posted by: Hikaru at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (XMDuf)

Toad in the hole. Start fapping....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (mbhDw)

32 19 That's really odd. The only thing a policeman has ever said to me is "License and Registration, Please."

And if you're white, it's cool. If you're black , it's racist. That's how these studies work.

Posted by: Roy at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (7n4KQ)

33 I don't know. I find that if I'm respectful to a police officer when/if I get stopped, I'm accorded the same respect. Often times, it even saves me a ticket or at the very least, a reduced charge.

Posted by: I'm A Traveling Man at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (/0FLW)

34 20 Dear Aces;

I am a convicted felon illegal alien living in Georgia.

Who should I cast my votes for in Alabama today?
Posted by: Serge Lastminute at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (Ndje9)

Anjem Choudhary.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (XMDuf)

35 In face, the only good thing that cops do is stand down when mobs commit violent crimes against people and property.
-----

Make no mistake, that is the desired outcome.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (atSEN)

36 It's good to see that even Stanford is not spared the decline in prestige that becomes of institutionalizing SJWing. Well done, Stanford.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 15, 2017 03:07 PM (tbOMB)

37 That's really odd. The only thing a policeman has ever said to me is "License and Registration, Please."

I've never had them ask for that.
Only for license & insurance.
Then again, we're not required to carry it in a privately owned vehicle, only commercial vehicles.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:07 PM (U76Nz)

38 The police office racial bias variant of the Althouse Rule that any study that finds differences between men and women must be written so as to find that women are superior is that the police are always racist, no matter what.

Look, I'm pretty far down the cops are militarized thugs path but this idea that cops are totes racist all the time is, hmm, what's the technical term, bugfuck nuts.

In any large population, some percentage will be racist assholes because that's how humanity works because people are the worst. Going looking for it like this serves no purpose but to make people unwilling to ignore actual awfulness because something something wolf something.

Do I believe there are cops who are racists? Sure, just like I believe there are cops who think Elvis will be brought back by the aliens at any time now. It's a large population and some percentage of it will believe something bugfuck.

Do I believe all cops are racist all the time? Um. No. No, I do not.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 15, 2017 03:07 PM (mf5HN)

39 I am still waiting for the Corgis! Still!

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 15, 2017 03:07 PM (jGqoT)

40 I recall studies a few years ago that said police shoot more white people than they do blacks even though there are more blacks involved in major crimes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 15, 2017 03:05 PM (mpXpK)

Cry us a damn river Whitey.

Posted by: Dogs Everywhere at August 15, 2017 03:07 PM (ISejo)

41 "I'm no fan of the current trend in America, which is to allow the militarization of police, and turn a blind eye to the obvious issues of unbridled use of force and tolerance of aggressive and sometimes illegal behavior."

What does that have to do with this study and its desperation to find bias? Simply stating that this study is a hunt in search of witches and will make up the witch if necessary is sufficient in my opinion.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 15, 2017 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

42 My brother-in-law, a cop and a white guy, says that his department gets bogus racial complaints about him and his white colleagues all the time. He has the protection of having a black wife and five children, but the others do not.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:08 PM (VlyWV)

43 28 When the institutional Left has gone so far off the deep end that it makes its first cousins, the Nazis and white supremacists look like innocent victims....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

It's like I said yesterday, when I find myself rooting for the Nazis in a streetfight, things have gone horribly, horribly wrong indeed.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 15, 2017 03:06 PM (AM1GF)

If some skinhead puts his fist in Professor Bike Lock's face, I'll be wearing my Claude Rains shocked face on the outside. On the inside....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:08 PM (mbhDw)

44 This really is a stupid country, isn't it?

Bell Curve
Law of averages
Magic of large numbers

Dog bites man is not news.

Posted by: Harmon Ne at August 15, 2017 03:08 PM (m9X4Y)

45 Who should I cast my votes for in Alabama today?
Write in "Banana Splits Guy".

Posted by: zombie red barber at August 15, 2017 03:09 PM (mJ8mX)

46 I like being pulled over by female cops more than male cops. It's like speed-dating.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:09 PM (10wur)

47 Every now and then it is possible to find evidence, in limited settings, in limited quantities, that reflect racist attitudes/behaviors in police departments.

It's usually very obvious when it's found. However, most macro studies bear out that racism just does not seem to be a factor most of the time. It's accepted wisdom at this point however, so there's not much that can be done about that.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:10 PM (TOk1P)

48 >>>Who should I cast my votes for in Alabama today?
Write in "Banana Splits Guy".

YES! This!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:10 PM (10wur)

49 45 Who should I cast my votes for in Alabama today?
Write in "Banana Splits Guy".
Posted by: zombie red barber at August 15, 2017 03:09 PM (mJ8mX)

J.J. Rhett Sefton.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:10 PM (mbhDw)

50
On a related note:

All those snotty liberal white people that are down with the current BLM struggles???

They are actually *worse* than actual racists, according to some.

http://tinyurl.com/ybqrjk53

Make sure to read the comments. Truly enlightening.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (8XRCm)

51 Albert Abama.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (AURKQ)

52 Write in Robert E. Lee

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (jsWA8)

53 The article is really about stupid things stupid academics say about LEOs, isn't it?

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (zSVEm)

54 51 Albert Abama.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (AURKQ)

Allah B'amaa....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (mbhDw)

55 I'm going out for donuts.

Posted by: Gorilla gumdrop at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (jGqoT)

56 14
When the institutional Left has gone so far off the deep end that it makes its first cousins, the Nazis and white supremacists look like innocent victims....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:04 PM (mbhDw)

That's something only a Nazi sympathizer would say

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (PYq1E)

57 Being (half-)black, it's been my personal experience that the wealthier the area I've been through, the bigger assholes the cops have been towards me.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 15, 2017 03:12 PM (XMDuf)

58 52 Write in Robert E. Lee
Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (jsWA

George LINCOLN Rockwell. FTW.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:12 PM (mbhDw)

59 Should be institutionalized Left, I think..

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:12 PM (zSVEm)

60 My husband has a friend whose wife has huge breasts.

I wish I had a dollar for every time she's demonstrated her "I have my license [lifts right boob] and registration [lifts left boob] right here, officer."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (PY9jH)

61 The article is really about stupid things stupid academics say about LEOs, isn't it?

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:11 PM (zSVEm)

------------------------------
Next month, VIRGOS

Posted by: RioBravo at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (SsblQ)

62 Who's worse? The Nazi sympathizers, or the Nazi empathizers?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (AURKQ)

63 OT - Is Fenelon here? Wondering how your son is doing - hopefully progressing in the right direction. We are kind of in a similar boat with our daughter.

Posted by: IC at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (a0IVu)

64 Eh. Still not as crazy as "Israeli's think Palestinians are animals as evidenced by Israeli troops NOT raping Palestinian women!!!" nonsense from a few years back.

Posted by: J. Random Dude's Super Sekret VPN at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (BC6uM)

65 59 Should be institutionalized Left, I think..
Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:12 PM (zSVEm)

True. They run the institutions of academia, the media and the bureaucracy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (mbhDw)

66 Must read ; http://tinyurl.com/y7dkocr8

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (nKbPK)

67 Moar Fake Science ?

*does an unconvincing 'shocked face'*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at August 15, 2017 03:14 PM (Umfx1)

68 I like being pulled over by female cops more than male cops. It's like speed-dating.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:09 PM (10wur)

Gotta admit, I do have a thing for women in uniform. Military or police.

Not that it can make some of the "ladies" look nice, just that it has a boost factor on attractiveness.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:14 PM (TOk1P)

69 My husband has a friend whose wife has huge breasts.

Now that's something to lose sleep over.

Posted by: Zombie Uncle Joe Stalin at August 15, 2017 03:14 PM (vtcmf)

70 When the institutional Left has gone so far off the deep end that it makes its first cousins, the Nazis and white supremacists look like innocent victims....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

It's like I said yesterday, when I find myself rooting for the Nazis in a streetfight, things have gone horribly, horribly wrong indeed.
=================
I love it when a plan comes together. . .

Posted by: george soros at August 15, 2017 03:14 PM (4lOfr)

71 The lone asshole cop I've ever dealt with (during a car accident) was black. I lodged an online complaint and he, along with another cop, made an appointment to discuss my complaint. Nothing solid came as a result, but I appreciated the gesture.

And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (VlyWV)

72 I got pulled over for Driving While Blind. Racism!

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (bc2Lc)

73 >>>George LINCOLN Rockwell. FTW.

Shot on LEE Highway.
House was on WILSON Boulevard, IIRC.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (10wur)

74 There is no way to pacify or ameliorate these ever-charging, Alinskyite bigots.

I no longer stay quiet at parties. I corner them and force them to comply to My Rules, because I either Own the Place or I know the guy what does.

My Rules are easy to apply:

STFU

-or-

GTFO

I'll escort you as gently as you'll allow me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (Ckg4U)

75 my experience some cops are nice and some cops are assholes just like every other profession.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (5y11N)

76 True story:

Got pulled over by a black cop in Santa Monica and I clearly ran a red light. When I started pulling out my James Brown, Earth Wind & Fire and Prince CDs searching for my registration, he let me go with a warning. Had no idea why until a few minutes later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:16 PM (mbhDw)

77 72 I got pulled over for Driving While Blind. Racism!
Posted by: Stevie Wonder
_________

Do you know why Helen Keller was such a crappy driver?

She was a woman.

Posted by: Furious George at August 15, 2017 03:16 PM (j+dfT)

78 >>>Gotta admit, I do have a thing for women in uniform. Military or police.

:::fistbump:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:16 PM (10wur)

79 Even in my youth, when I was arrested a couple of times, the cops weren't really that bad... of course I had all that White Privilege the Left is always yammering about.... so I guess my experience does not count...

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:16 PM (zSVEm)

80 Who's worse? The Nazi sympathizers, or the Nazi empathizers?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 15, 2017 03:13 PM (AURKQ)

Nazi moisturizers.

You do NOT want to know how they got their emollients.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (TOk1P)

81 my experience some cops are nice and some cops are assholes just like every other profession.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Every other profession doesn't involve guns and preferential treatment after a shooting.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (326rv)

82
And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (VlyWV)

-----

Forgot his sunglasses....eh??

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (8XRCm)

83 70 When the institutional Left has gone so far off the deep end that it makes its first cousins, the Nazis and white supremacists look like innocent victims....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

It's like I said yesterday, when I find myself rooting for the Nazis in a streetfight, things have gone horribly, horribly wrong indeed.
=================
I love it when a plan comes together. . .
Posted by: george soros at August 15, 2017 03:14 PM (4lOfr)

That doesn't mean that I SUPPORT the leftist Nazis etc. It just means that if a miscreant from their mainstream wing of totalitarians takes one in the teeth, I won't be shedding a tear.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (mbhDw)

84 Being (half-)black, it's been my personal experience that the wealthier the area I've been through, the bigger assholes the cops have been towards me.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 15, 2017 03:12 PM (XMDuf)

Don't take it personally. I live in one of the wealthiest counties in the country and we have an abundance of asshole cops.

Seems to come with the turf for some reason. Maybe it's because wealthy people are assholes and that's who they have to deal with... day after day.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (EgwCt)

85 If a policeman says "show me your papers", what does that mean?

Posted by: Roy at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (7n4KQ)

86 80
Nazi moisturizers.

You do NOT want to know how they got their emollients.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (TOk1P)

When they get their emoluments, then we're in trouble.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (mbhDw)

87 85 If a policeman says "show me your papers", what does that mean?
Posted by: Roy at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (7n4KQ)

He wants to roll a joint with you, dummy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:18 PM (mbhDw)

88 If some skinhead puts his fist in Professor Bike Lock's face,"

Can I buy a ticket to that?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:18 PM (MINbv)

89 81 my experience some cops are nice and some cops are assholes just like every other profession.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Every other profession doesn't involve guns and preferential treatment after a shooting.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (326rv)

"Yeah, really."

- - Roy DeMeo & Tommy DiSimone

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:19 PM (mbhDw)

90 Hikaru, the one time we had a cop, who happened to be black, be a little snotty with us, it was in a wealthy neighborhood. Then again, he was impressed with how we comported ourselves, considering that Mr. BTEG was legally wearing a gun on his hip at the time.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:19 PM (FQKBL)

91 Cry us a damn river Whitey.
Posted by: Dogs Everywhere at August 15, 2017 03:07 PM (ISejo)

Just to cover my ass here ... did anyone take that literally ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:19 PM (ISejo)

92
That doesn't mean that I SUPPORT the leftist Nazis etc. It just means that if a miscreant from their mainstream wing of totalitarians takes one in the teeth, I won't be shedding a tear
==========
I know that. Of course I know that. My plan is still coming together and there's nothing you can do about it.

Posted by: george soros at August 15, 2017 03:19 PM (LNcQd)

93 It's a bit of religious mentality, isn't it? Instead of a zealous cleric giving his endorsement for targeted violence, we have academics giving assent in the name of the leftist morality code du jour.

Posted by: mrp at August 15, 2017 03:19 PM (Pqytn)

94 Maybe it's because wealthy people are assholes"

Hey, don't you know who I am????

Yeah. The guy getting a ticket.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:19 PM (MINbv)

95 Gotta admit, I do have a thing for women in uniform. Military or police.

Not that it can make some of the "ladies" look nice, just that it has a boost factor on attractiveness.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:14 PM (TOk1P)

Back in 2006, at my college graduation, my stepdad was rear ended by a couple of twenty-somethings. As he was driving a rental cal with a bunch of us in it, we called for a cop. The officer was a smoking redhead. She and I started chatting and flirting, and I was literally seconds from asking for her phone number, when my mom pushes her way into the conversation and starts talking about how her nephew is interested in being a cop, blah blah blah. The officer's face changed immediately and she got very professional and went back to her car. We get back into ours and mom doesn't understand why I'm suddenly pissed, until my aunt blurts out, "Rhonda, you just cockblocked your own son!"

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (Tnhbr)

96 OT-Dennis Prager will be conducting the Santa Monica Orchestra. Musicians have indicated they will play for the musicians that refused to participate and the concert is almost sold out

http://tinyurl.com/yd6m334s

Aside from the Canadian guy who subs for Rush (Having a Senior moment here. Sorry) Prager is my favorite talk show host, but how did her ever get into conducting orchestras. He has a musical background? Anybody know?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (iVOAv)

97 I've never had any real trouble with cops, even in 70's in Texas with long hair and a beard, when they were famous for shaving hippies' heads.

Before that, they used to stop me for street-racing and let me go with a lecture and no ticket.

Now I'm old and my last two stops have resulted in warnings only. Maybe respect works better

I don't get the whole problem with cops thing.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (3myMJ)

98 85 If a policeman says "show me your papers", what does that mean?
Posted by: Roy at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (7n4KQ)

That he has vays of making you talk.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (RD7QR)

99 I don't drive. Haven't for 30+ years. Got that going for me!

Posted by: Hillary 2020! at August 15, 2017 03:21 PM (bc2Lc)

100 95 "Rhonda, you just cockblocked your own son!"
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (Tnhbr)

LOL!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)

101 Stanford is a very respectable University.

Posted by: J. Sessions Is Thinking at August 15, 2017 03:21 PM (mcI77)

102 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (iVOAv)

Don't know about musical background but his "Happiness Hour is the bomb".

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:21 PM (3myMJ)

103 But that's based on numbers and objective data..

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Social constructs, therefore, white nationalist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:21 PM (OdK9v)

104 Seems to come with the turf for some reason. Maybe it's because wealthy people are assholes and that's who they have to deal with... day after day.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (EgwCt)

This.

My BIL is a cop. He said the people behind the gates in the 30 million dollar mansions treat them horribly. They are the hired help.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (Ri/rl)

105 98

85 If a policeman says "show me your papers", what does that mean?
Posted by: Roy at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (7n4KQ)

That he has vays of making you talk.
Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (RD7QR)

Protip.... Always compliment them on their long leather jackets, and snap- brim Fedoras...

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (zSVEm)

106 Mey, that's all racism is. Its a kind of jerkitude. Its a species of ahole, nothing special or extraordinary. Racism is being a jerk to people, rude and petty. Being a jerk is only a problem when someone has the power to express their jerkiness in policy and limit people's rights. If you're just a jerk, you're no different than millions of others, you just have a certain style.

We need to get past this idea that racism is some exceptional sin or evil. Its dull and stupid, its boring rudeness.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (39g3+)

107 And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

That is why I never look at people when I talk to them. Look at the ground, look at the sky, look anywhere but at the person. Making eye contact is a threat.

Posted by: Harmon Ne at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (m9X4Y)

108 My BIL is a cop. He said the people behind the gates in the 30 million dollar mansions treat them horribly. They are the hired help.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (Ri/rl)

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So's my oldest.

Says the same thing.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (8XRCm)

109 That doesn't mean that I SUPPORT the leftist Nazis etc. It just means that if a miscreant from their mainstream wing of totalitarians takes one in the teeth, I won't be shedding a tear.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (mbhDw)

I saw a video clip from last weekend of an antifa twat with a bloodied face running like a rabbit. Not sure how he got that way but I'm sure it was a result of someone expressing their constitutional rights on his face

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (493sH)

110 Fenelon, I now see above that he's conducting.

That speaks to a musical background. Otherwise it could be a trainwreck.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:23 PM (3myMJ)

111 Cry us a damn river Whitey.
Posted by: Dogs Everywhere at August 15, 2017 03:07 PM (ISejo)

Just to cover my ass here ... did anyone take that literally ?
Posted by: ScoggDog

I did.
Then again, I can't keep my dog off the internet.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:23 PM (U76Nz)

112 Smorgasbord science. Rather than checking a theory against a prediction, they statistically find a prediction from a buffet of meaningless data and then backdate it to the theory.

Feynman might also include this under cargo cult science.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 15, 2017 03:23 PM (2lndx)

113 Every other profession doesn't involve guns and preferential treatment after a shooting.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (326rv)

Wait till I get my drill on you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:23 PM (5y11N)

114 I don't get the whole problem with cops thing.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (3myMJ)

I don't either. They have let me off with warnings also.

Even the CHP has let me go with a warning.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (Ri/rl)

115 Old and busted: Rubber hoses and bright lights
New and improved: Let Antifa thugs beat you bloody

Posted by: Under Fire at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (mcI77)

116 Always compliment them on their long leather jackets, and snap- brim Fedoras..."

"Louis, it's the beginning of a beautiful friendship"

No?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (MINbv)

117 my experience some cops are nice and some cops are assholes just like every other profession.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (5y11N)

Hold on, I'm about to blow your mind. It's like, are you ready for this, police are human beings too!

BOOM!

Now, where's my $2.5 million to do that study. I need to buy some Powerball tickets.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (mf5HN)

118 Just to cover my ass here ... did anyone take that literally ?
Posted by: ScoggDog

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**swats Scogg on the nose with a rolled up newspaper

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (8XRCm)

119 107 And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

That is why I never look at people when I talk to them. Look at the ground, look at the sky, look anywhere but at the person. Making eye contact is a threat.

Posted by: Harmon Ne at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (m9X4Y)

In the animal world. I make eye contact to show sincerity and respect.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (mbhDw)

120 Mey, that's all racism is. Its a kind of jerkitude. Its a species of ahole, nothing special or extraordinary. Racism is being a jerk to people, rude and petty. Being a jerk is only a problem when someone has the power to express their jerkiness in policy and limit people's rights. If you're just a jerk, you're no different than millions of others, you just have a certain style.
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Yes, it's that, but the main thing for the cultists from the left-wing is accruing enough power to decide who lives and who dies.

Posted by: mrp at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (Pqytn)

121 "Rhonda, you just cockblocked your own son!"
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (Tnhbr)

LOL!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:21 PM (mbhDw)

Something I would not want to hear in my lifetime.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (TOk1P)

122 "Gotta admit, I do have a thing for women in uniform. Military or police.

Not that it can make some of the "ladies" look nice, just that it has a boost factor on attractiveness.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:14 PM (TOk1P)"

The Carol Shaya spread in Playboy is still etched in my memory.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (OD2ni)

123 I was pulled over for speeding by a woman trooper, who worked for the Ohio State Highway Patrol. It was after midnight, I was speeding, I had been traveling all day, and was headed to my in laws house for a funeral the next morning.
She let me off with a warning. She was kinda cute, too.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (vcOmj)

124 Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:23 PM (3myMJ)

Well, I mean he obviously knows a good deal about music or plays an instrument, but does he have a degree in it?. I've never heard him talk about music on his show.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (iVOAv)

125 If a policeman says "show me your papers", what does that mean?

Posted by: Roy at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (7n4KQ)

It means your American Kennel Club registration. I have mine with me at all times.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Are You Goth? The AoSHQ Guide to Gloom available at The Outrage Outlet! at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (hLRSq)

126 I don't either. They have let me off with warnings also.

Even the CHP has let me go with a warning.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (Ri/rl)

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My "Back the Badge" window sticker might have something to do with it.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (8XRCm)

127 See also: Ann Coulter's meticulous autopsy of the New Jersey study purporting to conclude that blacks are pulled over more often for traffic offenses in the Garden State.

Executive summary: if you dig down into the fine print, it turns out that blacks ARE pulled over more often, but, blacks also incur the preconditions for a traffic stop far more often.

If you control for the disproportionately high rate at which black motorists break traffic laws or have a visibly illegal condition of their vehicle, it turns out they are less likely to be pulled over in NJ than would be a corresponding white motorist.

n.b., this ridiculous study's flawed conclusions were praised to the high heavens by the Joisey establishment Republicans when it first came. The likes of Christine Todd Whitman and Thomas Kean couldn't self-flagellate and auto-denounce vigorously enough. "We must do better," and similar such rhetoric.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (ujwCG)

128 95 Mom did you a big favor. Her woman's intuition picked up that hottie cop had herpes.

Posted by: kallisto at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (7l5V0)

129 So's my oldest.

Says the same thing.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (8XRCm)

The regular middle class people are usually the nicest in my experience.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (Ri/rl)

130 In other news, Fat Boy Little Man says he'll go back to nuking Guam "if the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions."

Like me, he's a traditionalist about the pinstripes with numbers only thing.

If WWIII starts, blame MLB.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (+7/1f)

131 In the animal world. I make eye contact to show sincerity and respect.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (mbhDw)

Make eye contact with a male gorilla and he'll beat the crap out of you. I mean, the next time you fall in a gorilla pit or something.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (PY9jH)

132 "And then there's that six trillion dollars that everyone's sitting on. That's an average of $213,000 per home"

"I know what you are thinking!"

"I trust them, and I think you can too!"

Posted by: Tom Selleck Peddling Reverse Mortgages at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (8iiMU)

133 Something I would not want to hear in my lifetime.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (TOk1P)

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Wow!! Your Moms name is Rhonda too??

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (8XRCm)

134 123 I was pulled over for speeding by a woman trooper, who worked for the Ohio State Highway Patrol. It was after midnight, I was speeding, I had been traveling all day, and was headed to my in laws house for a funeral the next morning.
She let me off with a warning. She was kinda cute, too.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (vcOmj)

"Did you schtup her?"

"What, what?! What am I born, Minks or Pinsk?!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (mbhDw)

135 I don't either. They have let me off with warnings also.

Even the CHP has let me go with a warning.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:24 PM (Ri/rl)

Maybe you just caught Eric Estrada on a good day

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (493sH)

136 I make eye contact to show sincerity and respect."

I squint over their heads. While scowling. And acting like they're about this close *yeah -that close* to pi**ing me off.

Hey, it kept me alive on NY streets back in the 70's...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:27 PM (MINbv)

137 I don't get the whole problem with cops thing.
Posted by: Meremortal

_______

It's very much of a regional and generational thing in my experience. Cops 30+ years ago had a much better rapport with people than they do now.

I come from a family of cops, and I'm always respectful, I'm not stupid enough to start mouthing off to a cop, but I have enough dumb exchanges with them that I can completely understand why groups of people may think racism is playing a role because a small situation has been blown up by them.

Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2017 03:27 PM (V0Jl1)

138 Social constructs, therefore, white nationalist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:21 PM (OdK9v)

Math and statistics be an artifact of white privilege!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 15, 2017 03:27 PM (gwPgz)

139 We need to get past this idea that racism is some exceptional sin or evil. Its dull and stupid, its boring rudeness.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 15, 2017 03:22 PM (39g3+)

It's also a very useful political tool, so no, we are not going to be getting rid of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:27 PM (TOk1P)

140 My "Back the Badge" window sticker might have something to do with it.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (8XRCm)

I'm not 29 anymore but I think it was because I was a girl. They'd let me go with a warning.

I haven't been pulled over since I was 29 probably.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:27 PM (Ri/rl)

141 Posted by: Ignoramus at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (+7/1f)

LOL, We're4 all Yankees now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2017 03:27 PM (iVOAv)

142 >>My BIL is a cop. He said the people behind the gates in the 30 million
dollar mansions treat them horribly. They are the hired help.

Pretty sure that's how they treat everyone. My friend used to to kitchen redesign in Vail - the kind where people were dropping $250K on up to $1 million just on the kitchen, and that's exactly how she described being treated.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 15, 2017 03:28 PM (NOIQH)

143 Baldilocks! Nice to see that name.

Meremortal - from last thread, though (tragically I haven't been yet, I know someone who went to Normandy back in the 90s, accompanied by his friend, only recently retired British Army officer. He told me they couldn't buy their own food or drinks at one place once it became known his buddy was a retired Brit soldier. My impression is that there, locally, history and knowledge are passed on. Hope it lasts til I get there - just to see it.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 15, 2017 03:28 PM (QDnY+)

144 my experience some cops are nice and some cops are assholes just like every other profession.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Yeah, I've done a couple of 'ride alongs'. I'm only surprised that they manage to maintain their temper at all. At least half (maybe more) of the people they have to deal with are assholes, in one way or another.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (OdK9v)

145 136 I make eye contact to show sincerity and respect."

I squint over their heads. While scowling. And acting like they're about this close *yeah -that close* to pi**ing me off.

Hey, it kept me alive on NY streets back in the 70's...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:27 PM (MINbv)

I'm talking about interpersonal relationships. I grew up in NYC in the 60s and 70s and know to not look people in the eye.

Then again, keep your head up and don't look like a frightened target.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (mbhDw)

146 In other news, Fat Boy Little Man says he'll go back to nuking Guam "if the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions."

Like me, he's a traditionalist about the pinstripes with numbers only thing.

If WWIII starts, blame MLB.
Posted by: Ignoramus

Aaron Judge is a threat to whirled peas!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (vcOmj)

147 Cops being racist:
https://youtu.be/o0xDhz4RlXY

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (10wur)

148 Something I would not want to hear in my lifetime.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (TOk1P)

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Wow!! Your Moms name is Rhonda too??
Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:26 PM (8XRCm)

Help me.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (TOk1P)

149 Which, in this context, is sounding awfully creepy.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (TOk1P)

150 And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (VlyWV)

In defense of the guy, we have no defense.

They're tits. They beckon.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (tbOMB)

151 123 I was pulled over for speeding by a woman trooper, who worked for the Ohio State Highway Patrol. It was after midnight, I was speeding, I had been traveling all day, and was headed to my in laws house for a funeral the next morning.
She let me off with a warning. She was kinda cute, too.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 15, 2017 03:25 PM (vcOmj)

The CHP are notorious for not letting you go with a warning. They just ticketed my neice on the way to her mother's funeral for driving 75mph.

You were fortunate.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:30 PM (Ri/rl)

152 And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (VlyWV)

Take it as an insult the day a guy doesn't look. Half the time we don't even realize that we've done it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 15, 2017 03:30 PM (Tnhbr)

153 And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (VlyWV)

In defense of the guy, we have no defense.

They're tits. They beckon.
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He's right they do beckon.

Why can't we all just get along?

Posted by: simplemind at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (75DLl)

154 I just tell the cop that I can't stand dogs. Absolutely hate 'em. Usually gets me off with a warning.

/SARCASM ALAERT - I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO USE SARCASM IN THIS POST

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (ISejo)

155 Make eye contact with a male gorilla and he'll beat the crap out of you."

Well, there's another excuse not to click on the AoS in the mornings...

Wait, can GP see me thru a webcam?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (MINbv)

156
I don't get the whole problem with cops thing.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (3myMJ)

Chris Rock explains it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvMc-K8XHY

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (EgwCt)

157 150 And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (VlyWV)

In defense of the guy, we have no defense.

They're tits. They beckon.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (tbOMB)

Only if they're 34 C and not 34 Long.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (mbhDw)

158 149

Which, in this context, is sounding awfully creepy.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (TOk1P)

Having trouble getting the zeitgeist of this thread, Burt... is it careening off the tracks?

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (zSVEm)

159 Math and statistics be an artifact of white privilege!
Posted by: Hrothgar
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So are economics and history.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (OdK9v)

160

My friends 81 year old mother got mugged 2 days ago in broad daylight in a grocery store parking lot in a really nice part of town

Threw her to the ground

Knocked 2 teeth out

Fuck their feelings

Posted by: ThunderB at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (EvOZR)

161 I got pulled over by the NY State Police on RT17 near Hancock NY for speeding taking my daughter back to school. My Military ID is on top of my license and when the trooper said to me " Commander do you know how fast you were going" I knew I was in like flint. I sheepishly said yes and he just told me to slow it down wished me well. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (5y11N)

162 If a policeman says "show me your papers", what does that mean?

My dear departed father once told the story of being pulled over for speeding. The smart alec cop asked to see my father's pilots license. (Flying low, get it?)

So my father handed over his pilot's license leaving the cop with nothing to say. Apparently asking for, and being shown the requested document, and said document being current and in order, the cop had to let him go. That was a long time ago.

Posted by: Harmon Ne at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (m9X4Y)

163 And...during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 15, 2017 03:15 PM (VlyWV)

Take it as an insult the day a guy doesn't look. Half the time we don't even realize that we've done it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

THIS!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:32 PM (U76Nz)

164 In defense of the guy, we have no defense.

They're tits. They beckon."

Yep. As Ron says "once you've seen one, you wanna see 'em all"

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:32 PM (MINbv)

165 "Maybe you just caught Eric Estrada on a good day

Posted by: TheQuietMan"

He finally busted those mean punk rockers?

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:32 PM (OD2ni)

166 Wait, can GP see me thru a webcam?
Posted by: Anon a mouse
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GP sees all, knows all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:32 PM (OdK9v)

167 The one time I got pulled over by a cop was for going 55 in a 45 mph road. I was exhausted and on zombie mode and acknowledged I was in the wrong and handed him my DL and registration and promptly started crying. He felt so sorry for me as I was blubbering away with snot coming out of my nose that he let me go with a warning.

Posted by: IC at August 15, 2017 03:32 PM (a0IVu)

168 161 Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (5y11N)

Stop being your usual frivolous self, Double-0-NGU!

- - Q

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

169 154 I just tell the cop that I can't stand dogs. Absolutely hate 'em. Usually gets me off with a warning.

/SARCASM ALAERT - I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO USE SARCASM IN THIS POST
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (ISejo)

Hmmm... needs a bigger font to get the point across...

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:33 PM (zSVEm)

170 So my father handed over his pilot's license leaving the cop with nothing to say. Apparently asking for, and being shown the requested document, and said document being current and in order, the cop had to let him go.

Did your dad have a dog? Because dogs of smartasses get shot.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2017 03:33 PM (Mouru)

171 Posted by: rhomboid at August 15, 2017 03:28 PM (QDnY+)

Go to Luxembourg if you get a chance. They love Americans there and it may be the cleanest, most civilized country in the world. They speak 4 languages and are unfailingly polite, including the young people.

My mother exclaimed at one point, "This isn't a country, it's a country CLUB!

WWII memorials are everywhere and there's no doubt about their gratitude. Of course they were occupied for four years and it was kind of rough. One lady who was a child during the War, told me she had one thing to wear near the end.

A potato sack.

Her father slaughtered an extra pig without permission and got away with it. It was a death penalty offense.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:33 PM (3myMJ)

172 As a "Late Eighties Longhair", I have been face-down in a puddle because "someone fitting the description" vandalized a construction site.

I was fewer than one-hundred yards from my house, but I respect the "red-and-blues".

There were five people in the car, so the officer had to mollify the situation.

He waited for backup and told me to "get down like an airplane", so I did.

I thought he was a dick, but he only wanted to go home to his Wife and Kids.

It took me years to "get over" that little incident.

When people tell me about being "offended", I want to shit on them. I want to spackle their eyes shut with my own feces. I want to open a wound, defecate in it and close said wound around the previous defecation.

You'd have to call my Beloved Mother a whore and make her cry before my eyes before I decide to be "offended".

At that point, the Collar-Grabbing Rectification is about to begin.

Other than that?

We're good.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 03:33 PM (Ckg4U)

173 160 Posted by: ThunderB at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (EvOZR)

I would leave no stone unturned to find the vermin that did that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:34 PM (mbhDw)

174 Hmmm... needs a bigger font to get the point across...
Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:33 PM (zSVEm)

We used to have bigger fonts.

And colors.

And all sorts of nice things.

But....

Posted by: blaster at August 15, 2017 03:34 PM (8ZHdq)

175 Which, in this context, is sounding awfully creepy.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:29 PM (TOk1P)

Having trouble getting the zeitgeist of this thread, Burt... is it careening off the tracks?
Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (zSVEm)

Something like that. Or in surfer terms, it's a wipe-out.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:34 PM (TOk1P)

176 In my experience, when cops pull you over at night, they're more worried about you driving drunk than that you're speeding, so if you're sober, you might get off with a warning.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:34 PM (FQKBL)

177
Yep. As Ron says "once you've seen one, you wanna see 'em all"

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 15, 2017 03:32 PM (MINbv)

See, play, tune in radio tokyo, motorboat, etc.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 15, 2017 03:34 PM (tbOMB)

178 Did your dad have a dog? Because dogs of smartasses get shot.

Ooops. Wait...

/SARCASM ALAERT - I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO USE SARCASM IN THIS POST

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (Mouru)

179 during the meeting the asshole's eyes briefly dropped to my tits.

Aw hell, that reminds me. Had to call the cops 'cuz somebody was stuck in the ditch in front of my residence, and they were in my yard, tearing it up trying to pull the car.

So the lady cop shows up after they get the car out.

I didn't look at her chest. I looked at her gun. Couldn't help myself. I know she noticed.

Posted by: Harmon Ne at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (m9X4Y)

180 The CHP are notorious for not letting you go with a warning. They just ticketed my neice on the way to her mother's funeral for driving 75mph.

You were fortunate.
Posted by: CaliGirl

For all the other shortcomings of living in Ohio, the OSHP is notoriously polite and professional. I have never seen a State Trooper lose their cool, or get angry with anyone.
Now watch someone here contradict me.

I have had a few encounters with county Sheriffs that were different, though. A lot of those guys are assholes.

My cousin was a city cop in Dayton for a very long time. He used to tell me about some of the ridiculous things cops have to put up with.
I know several of the cops in my town personally, and some of them are Ok, one is an asshole, and one has the funniest sense of humor you can imagine. One is a distant cousin, which is weird, too.

JUST LIKE REAL PEOPLE!!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (vcOmj)

181 176 In my experience, when cops pull you over at night, they're more worried about you driving drunk than that you're speeding, so if you're sober, you might get off with a warning.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:34 PM (FQKBL)

Yeah that, and getting murdered by a parole violater...

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (zSVEm)

182 Now I'm old and my last two stops have resulted in warnings only. Maybe respect works better

I don't get the whole problem with cops thing.
Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:20 PM (3myMJ)

Confirmation bias. Your experiences have been positive. Due to professional reasons, my experiences have been otherwise. That colors how both of us see the situation.

Neither of us are right or wrong in that view, it's simply confirmation bias.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN)

183
160
Posted by: ThunderB at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (EvOZR)

That is terrible, I hope the scum that did that is caught and beaten.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (Ri/rl)

184 Agree with the above comments about boobs.

If a man doesn't sneak a look, there's something wrong with him.

It's like not flinching when lightning strikes close by. You just can't avoid it.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (3myMJ)

185
I didn't look at her chest. I looked at her gun. Couldn't help myself. I know she noticed.
=================

I look at both.

Posted by: mrp at August 15, 2017 03:36 PM (Pqytn)

186 "That is why I never look at people when I talk to them. Look at the
ground, look at the sky, look anywhere but at the person. Making eye
contact is a threat."

I make deliberate eye contact with cops during the first spoken words of a traffic stop. If I'm wearing sunglasses I'll have removed them prior to the officer approaching.

They should see, and many such cops want to see, eyes that aren't darty and nervous, nor red, nor with dilated pupils. It's part of their situational assessment.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 15, 2017 03:36 PM (ujwCG)

187 Volunteer with a retired 30-yr cop. Play hockey with a fairly new deputy sheriff. Just talking with them, the enormous change in society itself and the way cops are even allowed to inter-act, or "police", are dramatic.

And I've never had any problems with cops, really. Only one obviously illegit ticket, but the cop was basically a good guy, because he effed up and hinted as much when my protestations and disbelief set him back on his heels.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 15, 2017 03:36 PM (QDnY+)

188 In defense of the guy, we have no defense.

They're tits. They beckon."

-----

Nothing worse than:

*She's looking away

*Quickly looks down.

*looks up and makes eye contact.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:36 PM (8XRCm)

189 185
I didn't look at her chest. I looked at her gun. Couldn't help myself. I know she noticed.
=================

I look at both.
Posted by: mrp at August 15, 2017 03:36 PM (Pqytn)

Desert Double Eagle .50

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:36 PM (mbhDw)

190 I didn't look at her chest. I looked at her gun. Couldn't help myself. I know she noticed.

Were they magnums? ;-)

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:36 PM (U76Nz)

191 Go to Luxembourg if you get a chance. They love Americans there and it may be the cleanest, most civilized country in the world. They speak 4 languages and are unfailingly polite, including the young people.

The problem with Luxembourg is that it has NO PARKING SPACES. I drove around that miserable country for two hours and couldn't find a place to park my damn car.

That's how they lost my lunch business to Belgium.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (Mouru)

192 show me the man and I'll find you the crime

Posted by: Bored383 at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (70HTk)

193 ..."Neither of us are right or wrong in that view, it's simply confirmation bias."
-Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN)

^THIS^

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (Ckg4U)

194

In other news, Fat Boy Little Man says he'll go back to nuking Guam "if the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions."

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE FAT MAN AND LITTLE BOY WERE THE NAMES OF THE NUCLEAR BOMBS WE DROPPED ON JAPAN!

Posted by: BEN R at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (lKyWE)

195 I clicked on the sidebar link about WaPo encouraging race riots...saw in the comments section that the Lincoln Memorial was vandalized today.

Anyone else hear that?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (vg8iE)

196 If you conceal carry and get pulled over, after going through the notification ritual, you can damn well count on a ticket.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (mcI77)

197 Neither of us are right or wrong in that view, it's simply confirmation bias.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN)

Interesting. I was treated a little rough the time they found 4 pot plants in a house where I was playing very loud rock and roll with a band. I thought it was normal treatment all things considered. I can see your point though.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:38 PM (3myMJ)

198 Posted by: ThunderB at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (EvOZR)

So sorry about your friend's mother,

Good to see you, though. How are you?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2017 03:38 PM (iVOAv)

199 In my experience, when cops pull you over at night, they're more worried about you driving drunk than that you're speeding, so if you're sober, you might get off with a warning.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:34 PM (FQKBL)

Yeah that, and getting murdered by a parole violater...
Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (zSVEm)

Or some little would-be gang banger with a small baggie of weed in his pocket.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:38 PM (TOk1P)

200 183 160

to a pulp!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 15, 2017 03:38 PM (gwPgz)

201 JUST LIKE REAL PEOPLE!!
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (

Cops are real people. I imagine some are power hungry jerks. I think of my BIL, he's lazy, he doesn't want to chase anyone or arrest them. Too much paperwork.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:38 PM (Ri/rl)

202 Vandals Spray Paint Fuck Law On Lincoln Memorial

Weasel Zippers

With a Pic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (5y11N)

203 That's how they lost my lunch business to Belgium.
Posted by: Cicero
------------

I draw the line at Brussels Sprouts. Would have abandoned the car.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (OdK9v)

204 I think of my BIL, he's lazy, he doesn't want to chase anyone or arrest them. Too much paperwork.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:38 PM (Ri/rl)

Maybe they can assign him to guard statues

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (493sH)

205 If you conceal carry and get pulled over, after going through the notification ritual, you can damn well count on a ticket.
Posted by: Under Fire

Not in my neck of Texas. I'm running about 6 to 1 with a warning. BECAUSE of my CHL.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (U76Nz)

206 202 Vandals Spray Paint Fuck Law On Lincoln Memorial

Weasel Zippers

With a Pic
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (5y11N)

This is not going to end well. That for me is a bridge that is too far.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (mbhDw)

207 We need navycopjoe in this thread. I would have thought the talk about shooting dogs would have alerted him.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:40 PM (FQKBL)

208 That's how they lost my lunch business to Belgium.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (Mouru)

Yeah, that's a problem. We didn't have a car, we were bused around by a wonderful group called Friends of Luxembourg. It invites American soldiers and their families to Luxembourg and drives them around right through the spots the soldiers fought their way through during the war. Amazing time. One guy at dinner with the family who lived in the house where he was captured.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:40 PM (3myMJ)

209 Crap.

WaPo begging for my subscription just popped up in my mail.

"Read journalism that matters. Democracy demands a watchful eye."

I'm trying to think of something clever to send them in a reply.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2017 03:40 PM (PY9jH)

210 Adam Carolla's imitation of cops on traffic stops is pretty funny . ' what I'm going to need you to do right now, right now I'm going to need you to.. ..'

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 15, 2017 03:41 PM (VzbI8)

211 I'm trying to think of something clever to send them in a reply.
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types
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Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 15, 2017 03:41 PM (vg8iE)

212 202 Vandals Spray Paint Fuck Law On Lincoln Memorial

Weasel Zippers

With a Pic
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (5y11N)

This is not going to end well. That for me is a bridge that is too far.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (mbhDw)

The Left is full of anarchists and sociopaths... but I repeat myself..

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:41 PM (zSVEm)

213 206 202 Vandals Spray Paint Fuck Law On Lincoln Memorial

Weasel Zippers

With a Pic
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (5y11N)

This is not going to end well. That for me is a bridge that is too far.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (mbhDw)

It's not in your backyard, so stop caring. Hysterical weak butthurt pants-wetter.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:41 PM (0mRoj)

214 The problem with Luxembourg is that it has NO
PARKING SPACES. I drove around that miserable country for two hours and
couldn't find a place to park my damn car.

That's how they lost my lunch business to Belgium.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2017 03:37 PM (Mouru)

-------------------------------
I had the same problem finding a spot in 2003. Maybe everyone does as the roads were very crowded. Nothing to be done but drive around endlessly?

Posted by: RioBravo at August 15, 2017 03:41 PM (SsblQ)

215 This is not going to end well. That for me is a bridge that is too far.
============
Its what they want. They want chaos in the streets. Expect escalation.

Would have moved earlier I think, but attempted mass assassination pre empted their plans for a while.

Posted by: simplemind at August 15, 2017 03:41 PM (CymqI)

216 Not in my neck of Texas. I'm running about 6 to 1 with a warning. BECAUSE of my CHL.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (U76Nz)

I'm in WA state where LE sucks. Traveling through WY the gun has to be on the dashboard and in plain sight. LOL When we travel through states that don't honor our permits it's a drill of breakdown, store and lock up.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (mcI77)

217 If you conceal carry and get pulled over, after going through the notification ritual, you can damn well count on a ticket.
Posted by: Under Fire

-------

Is your State a "shall inform" State.

Most are not. I never tell... unless Im driving in Nebraska, which is a shall inform State.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (8XRCm)

218 81 my experience some cops are nice and some cops are assholes just like every other profession.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Every other profession doesn't involve guns and preferential treatment after a shooting.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 15, 2017 03:17 PM (326rv)

This is indeed a critical difference.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (0mRoj)

219 "Democracy demands a watchful eye"

Wasn't the WaPo tagline recently "Democracy dies in darkness."

Who makes up this shit.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (+7/1f)

220 Vandals Spray Paint Fuck Law On Lincoln Memorial

Weasel Zippers

With a Pic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (5y11N)

We're they just expressing their constitutional rights?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (493sH)

221 You hand your C.C. license to an officer alongside your D.L. and registration. You are required to inform him that you are C.C. and that you are armed.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (Ckg4U)

222 Is your State a "shall inform" State.

Most are not. I never tell... unless Im driving in Nebraska, which is a shall inform State.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (8XRCm)

Mine is not, and it isn't something I volunteer either.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (0mRoj)

223 This is not going to end well. That for me is a bridge that is too far.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (mbhDw)

Look at it this way, if it delegitimizes President Trump, it's worth burning the everything down and destroying the few remaining vestiges of Western Civilization from this benighted country!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (gwPgz)

224 Navy Cop Joe!

(he's not here, I just felt like saying it)

Militarized thug cops! (in NCJ's honor, as it were)

Meremortal - danggit, I am dying to go there as well (Luxembourg). Actually wasn't on my screen so much until I started my Bulge book list (Blood and Steel, best one so far). Author had been a Brit officer, trained in the area, as well as did historic research. So yes, that one's on the list, along with Normandy. Some day, my son.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (QDnY+)

225 I'm in WA state where LE sucks. Traveling through WY the gun has to be on the dashboard and in plain sight. LOL When we travel through states that don't honor our permits it's a drill of breakdown, store and lock up.
Posted by: Under Fire at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (mcI77)

Welcome to California.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (Ri/rl)

226 A friend of mine, wife, two children:

Cpl. Richard Varn Woods
8/19/1969

Corporal Woods was on Duty in Beaufort County on August 15, 1969 when he pulled a vehicle over for speeding. Cpl. Woods did not know that the three suspects were wanted for burglary and larceny. Corporal Woods was shot and died four days later from his injuries. The three suspects were charged in his death. Corporal Woods was a nine year veteran of the Patrol and was a native of Jasper County.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (OdK9v)

227 221 You hand your C.C. license to an officer alongside your D.L. and registration. You are required to inform him that you are C.C. and that you are armed.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 03:42 PM (Ckg4U)

That varies from state to state.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (0mRoj)

228 Wasn't the WaPo tagline recently "Democracy dies in darkness."

Who makes up this shit.
====================

I'm getting better!

Posted by: Democracy at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (Pqytn)

229 "Cops are real people. I imagine some are power hungry jerks. I think of my BIL, he's lazy, he doesn't want to chase anyone or arrest them. Too much paperwork.

Posted by: CaliGirl"

Here in DC , the cops are notoriously lazy. They hate pulling people over as that means they have to get out of their cars. I have seen cars going through the red light up to 5 seconds after the change and a cop at the other intersection does nothing.

They just rely on the red light/speed cameras for revenue.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

230 209 Crap.

WaPo begging for my subscription just popped up in my mail.

"Read journalism that matters. Democracy demands a watchful eye."

I'm trying to think of something clever to send them in a reply.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2017 03:40 PM (PY9jH)

"Then why have you poked both of yours out"

Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (z/Ubi)

231 How come people aren't doing nasty arguing in this thread like the last two?

There must be something different.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (3myMJ)

232 45 Who should I cast my votes for in Alabama today?

Write in Gorillapundit.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (+Xgkm)

233 >"Read journalism that matters. Democracy demands a watchful eye."
I'm trying to think of something clever to send them in a reply.

Try:
"And that aint you. Suscribing to Brietbart Platinum. Bless your heart!"

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (swEzU)

234 Is your State a "shall inform" State.

Most are not. I never tell... unless Im driving in Nebraska, which is a shall inform State.
Posted by: fixerupper

Texas is "must inform IF carrying."

I always inform regardless.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (U76Nz)

235 Wasn't the WaPo tagline recently "Democracy dies in darkness"*

*especially when we hold a pillow over its face

Posted by: The Washington Post at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (Mouru)

236 I clicked on the sidebar link about WaPo encouraging race riots...saw in the comments section that the Lincoln Memorial was vandalized today.

Anyone else hear that?

Either "F*ck law" or "F*ck Islam". The vandal has poor writing skills.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/DHS3P36XsAAffsE.jpg

Posted by: bonhomme at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (jhqr1)

237 "That varies from state to state."
-Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (0mRoj)

This is correct. My bad.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (Ckg4U)

238 How come people aren't doing nasty arguing in this thread like the last two?

There must be something different.
Posted by: Meremortal

We're trying to keep from scaring baldilocks off.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:45 PM (U76Nz)

239 205 If you conceal carry and get pulled over, after going through the notification ritual, you can damn well count on a ticket.
Posted by: Under Fire

Not in my neck of Texas. I'm running about 6 to 1 with a warning. BECAUSE of my CHL.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:39 PM (U76Nz)

I had a smart ass cop ask me after I finished telling him I was a CHL holder ' yeah , what you want me to do about it?' That's when I quit being polite. I guess I could consider myself lucky for not getting arrested at that point. I did end up with three bogus tickets though.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 15, 2017 03:45 PM (VzbI8)

240 They just rely on the red light/speed cameras for revenue.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

If the left wants to destroy things they can start with those no turn on red cameras. I wouldn't object to that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:45 PM (493sH)

241 236 I clicked on the sidebar link about WaPo encouraging race riots...saw in the comments section that the Lincoln Memorial was vandalized today.

Anyone else hear that?

Either "F*ck law" or "F*ck Islam". The vandal has poor writing skills.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/DHS3P36XsAAffsE.jpg
Posted by: bonhomme at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (jhqr1)

*looks*
*looks again*
*turns head sideways*

Could be "fuck claw." Or "fuck clam."

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:45 PM (0mRoj)

242 Good friend of mine had a female cop pull a gun on him at a routine traffic stop when he politely informed her he had a concealed weapon permit. And the guy was in law enforcement.

My advice is not to disclose it.

Posted by: Maritime at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (V0Jl1)

243 Neither of us are right or wrong in that view, it's simply confirmation bias.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 15, 2017 03:35 PM (mf5HN)

I'm sure your view of law enforcement is different than anyone else's here ... unless they're crouched down.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (ISejo)

244 "The only thing a policeman has ever said to me is 'License and Registration, Please.'"

Another protip: when that question gets asked, don't merely move to comply. Announce specifically what you're going to do before you do it. Then move slowly while doing so.

"OK, officer, my license is in my wallet in my back trouser pocket, so I'm going to release my seat belt and fetch that wallet out. ... ... ... All right, there's the license for you. My registration and insurance paperwork is all in the glove box. Going to reach across to get those now."

Posted by: torquewrench at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (ujwCG)

245
I got pulled over by the NY State Police on RT17 near Hancock NY for speeding taking my daughter back to school.

Posted by: Harmon Ne at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (m9X4Y)

Been through that area a lot over the years...55 through their. Long ago it was suppose to become an interstate, but for some reason it never became I-86. Several roads are rebuilt and wear out, on what are suppose to be interstates, have no idea why. SR15 south is a real nice road south, should be I-99, but for some reason (again) it just stays SR15.

Posted by: Colin at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (d6NXJ)

246 They just rely on the red light/speed cameras for revenue.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

My BIL isn't that lazy. He does have that cop attitude though.

Did I mention we argue?

He told me he doesn't believe in tipping because when someone calls 911 and he saves their life he doesn't get a tip.

I told him the waitresses spit in his food.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (Ri/rl)

247 Way OT: Amazon has charged me now twice for annual Prime membership that I have not ordered. $101.72 just suddenly is 'vandalized' from my bank account. They refund the money in 3-5 days but these seems like an intentional act. Anyone else?

Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (oiNtH)

248 I always inform regardless.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:44 PM (U76Nz)

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Do that is Missouri or Kansas and you'll likely get a "well....who doesnt??"

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (8XRCm)

249 Protip ... when stopped by cops DO NOT

Jump out of car and head for their car
Start rummaging under the seat or the console or glove box as they walk up
Roll down the passenger side window

I'm sure there are others...

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (zSVEm)

250 >>>How come people aren't doing nasty arguing in this thread like the last two?

No mention of Civil War?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (10wur)

251 Welcome to California.

Now come on. We're not that bad. Yet.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 15, 2017 03:47 PM (mcI77)

252 I played a sexy cop in a porno.

Posted by: Jan Smithers at August 15, 2017 03:47 PM (bc2Lc)

253 But that doesn't mean that cops are racists...it means that some of them are jerks.

That's RACIST!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2017 03:47 PM (oVJmc)

254 Amazon has charged me now twice for annual Prime membership that I have not ordered. $101.72 just suddenly is 'vandalized' from my bank account. They refund the money in 3-5 days but these seems like an intentional act. Anyone else?
Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (oiNtH)

-----

Nope. I dont even have your account number.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:47 PM (8XRCm)

255 In my experience, when cops pull you over at night, they're more worried about you driving drunk than that you're speeding, so if you're sober, you might get off with a warning.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius

True. That happened to me a several months ago (March?). I went out to get some letters mailed at the Post Office at ~ midnight, then was headed around the corner to get some gas. The local law was behind me. I made kind of a weird, wide left hand turn, and his party light came on.
Once he saw I was normal, and why I made the wide turn (to turn into the gas station) and saw I was sober, we started talking about NCAA basketball, and he was off.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at August 15, 2017 03:47 PM (vcOmj)

256 161 I got pulled over by the NY State Police on RT17 near Hancock NY for speeding taking my daughter back to school. My Military ID is on top of my license and when the trooper said to me " Commander do you know how fast you were going" I knew I was in like flint. I sheepishly said yes and he just told me to slow it down wished me well. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:31 PM (5y11N)

I once got out of a boderline situation when the cop asked me to say the alphabet by asking if I could use the NATO phonetic alphabet.

Another time I got a write up for speeding by a few MPH in a local town on my way to a reserve drill in uniform. Didn't try to play the military angle beyond being in uniform. Went to court to get a limited fine, off the record (usual result) and did get that. And the asshole still tried to screw me: "But it was in a school zone..." I pointed out it was also 6:00 on a Sunday morning.

Posted by: Keith at August 15, 2017 03:48 PM (USf3s)

257 Or "fuck clam."
==

Yeah, fuck the clams, man.

Posted by: Freshwater Mussel at August 15, 2017 03:48 PM (OVUYQ)

258 Who should I cast my votes for in Alabama today?

Write in Gorillapundit.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader

Or...

Posted by: Vote Brother Cavil, US Senate at August 15, 2017 03:48 PM (AM1GF)

259 246 They just rely on the red light/speed cameras for revenue.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

My BIL isn't that lazy. He does have that cop attitude though.

Did I mention we argue?

He told me he doesn't believe in tipping because when someone calls 911 and he saves their life he doesn't get a tip.

I told him the waitresses spit in his food.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (Ri/rl)

Is his rate for going on a 911 call below minimum wage?

Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2017 03:48 PM (z/Ubi)

260 Could be "fuck claw." Or "fuck clam."

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:45 PM (0mRoj)

The Craw: Not Craw! Craw!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:48 PM (493sH)

261
Wait.

WUT???

A.....DENTIST ....... can be a COMMANDER???

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:48 PM (8XRCm)

262 Posted by: rhomboid at August 15, 2017 03:43 PM (QDnY+)

Do it. Look up Friends Of Luxembourg too.

We were taken to memorials, where we had ceremonies for the fallen. One of the guys with us had been in the French resistance. He held the American flag in the color guard at each ceremony. He wore big black sunglasses and made the most horrible faces every time.

I eventually realized he was crying.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (3myMJ)

263 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (ISejo)

The Dog likes to play with fire, that's for sure!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (gwPgz)

264 If you conceal carry and get pulled over, after going through the notification ritual, you can damn well count on a ticket.
Posted by: Under Fire

Mr. BTEG and I have been stopped twice while legally carrying. We were taught in our CCL class to notify the officer, get it out in the open, since it shows up when they run your license. One time we just had to go back and provide proof we'd fixed the thing wrong with the car that led to us getting pulled over. Second time we did get a ticket. That time the cop didn't even know the law in Ohio about concealed carry.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (FQKBL)

265 I'm a license holder. I've only had a few traffic stops - legit in each case but I always produce the two cards when speaking with LE in an official capacity.
My carry piece even got me out of a ticket I deserved, as the deputy was simply fascinated by it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (BLln/)

266 247 Way OT: Amazon has charged me now twice for annual Prime membership that I have not ordered. $101.72 just suddenly is 'vandalized' from my bank account. They refund the money in 3-5 days but these seems like an intentional act. Anyone else?
Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (oiNtH)

I'd be calling your credit card company and asking for a new card number.

Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (z/Ubi)

267 "He told me he doesn't believe in tipping because when someone calls 911 and he saves their life he doesn't get a tip.

I told him the waitresses spit in his food.
Posted by: CaliGirl a"

And put Visine in his drinks (causes diarrhea). You should show him the Yelper episode of South Park. It would make him think twice about being an a-hole in restaurants.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (OD2ni)

268 So CEOs are pissy and are pretending that it's about Charlottesville instead of about playing hardball with China over the Norks.

They like their Chinese slave labor.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (oVJmc)

269 SMASH THE JACKBOOTED CLAM POWER STRUCTURE!

Posted by: A Man, A Spray Paint Can, and an Idea at August 15, 2017 03:50 PM (Mouru)

270 LEOs have to be careful where they buy their meals.

Posted by: mrp at August 15, 2017 03:50 PM (Pqytn)

271 Way OT: Amazon has charged me now twice for annual Prime membership that I have not ordered. $101.72 just suddenly is 'vandalized' from my bank account. They refund the money in 3-5 days but these seems like an intentional act. Anyone else?

Posted by: Cheri at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (oiNtH)

Bezos has to fund the Wa Po somehow.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:50 PM (493sH)

272 Been through that area a lot over the years...55 through their. Long ago it was suppose to become an interstate, but for some reason it never became I-86. Several roads are rebuilt and wear out, on what are suppose to be interstates, have no idea why. SR15 south is a real nice road south, should be I-99, but for some reason (again) it just stays SR15.
Posted by: Colin at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (d6NXJ)

It is designated I-86 at points. It's a nice road and with Waze now I am pretty well protected

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 15, 2017 03:50 PM (5y11N)

273 If you're a lousy tipper you get secret sauce.

Posted by: YouTube Hotdog Waitress at August 15, 2017 03:50 PM (bc2Lc)

274 If you're a lousy tipper you get secret sauce.
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Thanks! No more tipping for me!

Posted by: Shep! at August 15, 2017 03:51 PM (vg8iE)

275 The Dog likes to play with fire, that's for sure!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (gwPgz)

I'm just hoping she pokes me with a stick again.

It. Is. Awesome !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:51 PM (ISejo)

276 I hate the chicks who cry to get out of a ticket.

Posted by: NCKate at August 15, 2017 03:51 PM (8Xttu)

277 He told me he doesn't believe in tipping because when someone calls 911 and he saves their life he doesn't get a tip.

Hmm, I hadn't heard that cops make below minimum wage and rely on tips to earn a decent living.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 15, 2017 03:52 PM (jhqr1)

278 LEOs have to be careful where they buy their meals.

Posted by: mrp at August 15, 2017 03:50 PM (Pqytn)

What about Virgos?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:52 PM (493sH)

279 Got stopped in Vegas in a school zone (just a crosswalk actually) the cop had a real weird pair of sun glasses and I almost laughed...At least he let me go, with the usual warning, glad I didn't joke about his glasses though.

Posted by: Colin at August 15, 2017 03:52 PM (d6NXJ)

280
WaPo begging for my subscription just popped up in my mail.

"Read journalism that matters. Democracy demands a watchful eye."

I'm trying to think of something clever to send them in a reply.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 15, 2017 03:40 PM (PY9jH)

That's why I read the Washington Times. Liberty demands I tell you to f**k off

Posted by: BEN R at August 15, 2017 03:52 PM (lKyWE)

281 You should show him the Yelper episode of South Park. It would make him think twice about being an a-hole in restaurants.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (OD2ni)

I'm sure she doesn't have to show him the whole episode. Just the song at the end will suffice.

https://youtu.be/pDlR_ccnZww

Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (z/Ubi)

282 Way OT: Amazon has charged me now twice for annual Prime membership that I have not ordered. $101.72 just suddenly is 'vandalized' from my bank account. They refund the money in 3-5 days but these seems like an intentional act. Anyone else?
Posted by: Cheri

Have you ever had Prime before? If so, check your settings to see if auto renew is turned on.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (U76Nz)

283 I never volunteer any info about guns on me or in the car. If they ask, and they've only ever asked once, I tell them. I figure bringing up guns raises the tension. No point in doing that.

I turn the car off, remove the keys, put the registration and insurance cards on the dash, roll down both sets of windows and keep my hands on the wheel.

Yeah, makes me feel like a criminal.

It's only when I have my rottie, Logan, in the car that I feel stressed. Too many cops killing too many dogs for my peace of mind.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (xJa6I)

284
A Missouri Drivers License will NOT flag you as CCW permit holder.

The D/L is issued by the State and the CCW is issued by the County you reside in. The two record databases are separated by statute.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (8XRCm)

285 Is his rate for going on a 911 call below minimum wage?
Posted by: buzzion at August 15, 2017 03:48 PM (z/Ubi)

He makes over 6 figures. He will retire with 90 percent of his pay. He already has his 30 years.

He hasn't retired yet because he will have to pay for his health insurance. He has three kids under 18 and his wife is only 42 and is a homemaker.

He can be an ass, obviously.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (Ri/rl)

286 Hmm, I hadn't heard that cops make below minimum wage and rely on tips to earn a decent living.
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TBF: its tips and property seizures.

Posted by: simplemind at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (uaTD7)

287 277. This automatic tipping thing is bullshit. - Mr. Pink

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (BLln/)

288 Trump talking about infrastructure project and focusing on lengthy rules and permitting requirements, EPA in particular and bashing the ridiculous red tape involved. Made a few gratuitous insults to the media too. More please.

Posted by: Ripley at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (MxEKc)

289 "In my experience, when cops pull you over at night, they're more worried.."

I got stopped at night a few years ago. Pulled off onto a side street with no lights. I was worried about the cop being worried.

56 in a 45. He let me off with a warning. I must be good with cops.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (3myMJ)

290 I had a smart ass cop ask me after I finished telling him I was a CHL holder ' yeah , what you want me to do about it?'
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I had a cop ask me if my gun was loaded, when I said "No", he said, "Why not?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 03:54 PM (OdK9v)

291 When I had a CCW I got stopped once for speeding and the cop called out from his car asking if I had my weapon with me.

I thought that was creepy. I get it. But creepy.

Posted by: blaster at August 15, 2017 03:54 PM (8ZHdq)

292 ~~,He told me he doesn't believe in tipping because when someone calls 911 and he saves their life he doesn't get a tip. ~~

Does he have to make a payment when his untimeliness results in a death?

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 15, 2017 03:54 PM (VzbI8)

293 "He told me he doesn't believe in tipping because when someone calls 911 and he saves their life he doesn't get a tip.

I told him the waitresses spit in his food.
Posted by: CaliGirl a"

And put Visine in his drinks (causes diarrhea). You should show him the Yelper episode of South Park. It would make him think twice about being an a-hole in restaurants.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (OD2ni)

Never be rude to anyone who handles your food.

Or who has a gun and can kill you without going to jail for it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (xJa6I)

294 When I had a CCW I got stopped once for speeding and the cop called out from his car asking if I had my weapon with me.

I thought that was creepy. I get it. But creepy.

Drama. CCW holders never shoot cops.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (Mouru)

295 gratuitous insults to the media

Now that's a great name for a band.

Posted by: simplemind at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (4lOfr)

296 PDT giving the press hell.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (8iiMU)

297 "I never volunteer any info about guns on me or in the car."

Me either, and I have a carry permit which they can see when they run my license. I've been stopped twice since getting the permit. One ticket, one warning, no questions about weapons.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (3myMJ)

298 More press bashing. They are going nuts now.

Posted by: Ripley at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (MxEKc)

299 Off sock

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (lKyWE)

300
Thanks! No more tipping for me!

Posted by: Shep! at August 15, 2017 03:51 PM (vg8iE)

You were never a 'just the tip' kind of guy anyway, Shep.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (oVJmc)

301 283 I never volunteer any info about guns on me or in the car. If they ask, and they've only ever asked once, I tell them. I figure bringing up guns raises the tension. No point in doing that.

That's why I don't bring it up since I'm not required to by law. I really don't want a cop pointing his gun in my face screaming at me to put my hands up and get out of the car.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (0mRoj)

302 PDT: "Unlike you (the press), before I make a statement, I like to get the facts!"

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (8iiMU)

303 The ladies on the cooking show that I am watching are cooking a gooeyduck clam, should be called a horse dick clam.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (54hFy)

304

I'm good

My friends father has his CHL but he wasnt with her

Posted by: ThunderB at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (EvOZR)

305 If a race-scientist says its racism and you're not a race-scientist then you can't "disagree" with them --you're just WRONG!

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (QtQaN)

306 276 I hate the chicks who cry to get out of a ticket.
Posted by: NCKate at August 15, 2017 03:51 PM (8Xttu)

I've done that. I was scared. I wasn't fake crying. I was about 16 and I was afraid of my mother getting mad at me.

I didn't get a ticket.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (Ri/rl)

307 We were taught in our CCL class to notify the officer, get it out in the open, since it shows up when they run your license.

Not necessarily. I informed a cop I was carrying on a traffic stop (WA, no duty to inform). He asked to see my CCL. I gave it to him. He looked it up on his computer to verify and it didn't show up on his search!

He looked at it carefully and asked if I had forged it. I shook my head adamantly and told him, "No sir!"

He decided it wasn't forged and let me on my way. Gave me a real scare though!

Posted by: bonhomme at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (jhqr1)

308 Hmm, I hadn't heard that cops make below minimum wage and rely on tips to earn a decent living.
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TBF: its tips and property seizures.
Posted by: simplemind at August 15, 2017 03:53 PM (uaTD7)

I'm not Johnny Lawman, but I kinda think trying to tip your cop is a violation of the criminal code or something.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (TOk1P)

309 The police in my little Indiana city are fine. County sherriffs are fine. Louisville Metro are typically dicks. State Police in KY and IN are a mixed bag.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (ISejo)

310 301. Didn't go down that way for me. YMMV and all that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (BLln/)

311 >>>This automatic tipping thing is bullshit. - Mr. Pink

Mr. Pink might have been a dick but he was the only one with his head on straight in that whole damn thing.
:::sympathizes:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 15, 2017 03:57 PM (10wur)

312 PDT: "Unlike you (the press), before I make a statement, I like to get the facts!"

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (8iiMU)

ahahahaha. I love when he verbally slaps them around.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2017 03:57 PM (493sH)

313 A Missouri Drivers License will NOT flag you as CCW permit holder.

Neither will Texas. But your license plate will. They know before they get to you.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:57 PM (U76Nz)

314 In CC class, they advised to always indicate you were CC... they also advised when they stop you the info comes up on computer when the plate is run, so I dunno.. I always carry loaded, safety on, with nothing in the chamber.. but that's TMI if stopped..

Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:57 PM (zSVEm)

315 One time we just had to go back and provide proof we'd fixed the thing wrong with the car that led to us getting pulled over. Second time we did get a ticket. That time the cop didn't even know the law in Ohio about concealed carry.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:49 PM (FQKBL)

Good thing you didn't encounter Officer Harless.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:58 PM (0mRoj)

316 We have a force entirely composed of midget cops and they dance and sing and everyone gets along just fine.

Posted by: The Mayor of Munchkinland at August 15, 2017 03:58 PM (Mouru)

317 Neither will Texas. But your license plate will. They know before they get to you.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:57 PM (U76Nz)
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Ayup.

Posted by: mrp at August 15, 2017 03:58 PM (Pqytn)

318 Interesting factoid there ace
Not as interesting as the CEO of Walmart telling Trump to stop paling around with Nazis

Posted by: Sure at August 15, 2017 03:58 PM (eVcto)

319 PDT: "The driver of the car was a murderer, and has done a horrible, horrible thing."

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 15, 2017 03:58 PM (8iiMU)

320 In Ohio, you do show up with a CCL when they run your license. Although the information might not be clear. Been asked about it even when Mr. BTEG was the only one in the family to have one, because the car is registered in his name. I just inform them I don't have the license and there is no weapon in the vehicle (which is true.)

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (FQKBL)

321 311. He stayed professional. And that scene with him running down the sidewalk. ... damnes fine flick

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (BLln/)

322 Seeing how pendulum of history is swinging it really might be time to implement the Benedict option.

I don't see how we regain normalcy in even a limited way.

Leftist are moving the ratchet click by click on a daily and the administration is beating back the snarling hordes as best they can but damn it's looking grim.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (2JcMg)

323 When I had a CCW I got stopped once for speeding and the cop called out from his car asking if I had my weapon with me.

I thought that was creepy. I get it. But creepy.

Drama. CCW holders never shoot cops.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 15, 2017 03:55 PM (Mouru)

Jah. If you're willing to jump through legal hoops to get the license, you're not likely to just go thatch and start shooting cops.

I will say that carrying a gun forced me to avoid confrontations and bite my tongue. May have helped me grow up some, ironically.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (xJa6I)

324 310 301. Didn't go down that way for me. YMMV and all that.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (BLln/)

Sure, and I'm not saying it's a certainty it would go down that way. However, I'd rather eliminate the possibility of that scenario altogether. Plus I have really shitty luck.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (0mRoj)

325 Last time I was stopped, cop was being an asshole.

I said just give me a fucking ticket, and stop being an asshole.

Guess what?

I got a ticket.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (tbOMB)

326 We're trying to keep from scaring baldilocks off.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:45 PM (U76Nz)

And taking quick glances at her tits.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (Tnhbr)

327 Does he have to make a payment when his untimeliness results in a death?
Posted by: Jack Sock at August 15, 2017 03:54 PM (VzbI

I'm not as quick as you all.

My husband told me to stop arguing with him.

He got really mad when I told him the waitresses spit in his food. He even told me the penal code violation number.

You could see a light bulb go off in his brain. It was funny.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 04:00 PM (Ri/rl)

328 "I've done that. I was scared. I wasn't fake crying. I was about 16 and I was afraid of my mother getting mad at me.
I didn't get a ticket."
-Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (Ri/rl)

You don't even need big tits for that.

#BroadPrivelege.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 04:00 PM (Ckg4U)

329 I think that many states require you to immediately notify the officer if you are CC.
And, there's that issue of a cop spotting your piece and shrieking "gun!" and pumping you full of 9mm before you can explain your situation.
I'd generally tell them right off.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 15, 2017 04:00 PM (QtQaN)

330
I'm not Johnny Lawman, but I kinda think trying to tip your cop is a violation of the criminal code or something.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 15, 2017 03:56 PM (TOk1P)

I thought tipping a cop was bribery

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 15, 2017 04:00 PM (lKyWE)

331 Newd

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 15, 2017 04:00 PM (7ZVPa)

332 PDT: "I'm sure McCain knows what he is talking about. .... What about the alt-left who came charging with clubs? ...Wait a minute...I'm not finished, Fake News!....."

LMFAO

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 15, 2017 04:00 PM (8iiMU)

333 Posted by: kraken at August 15, 2017 03:57 PM (zSVEm)

Yeah I was told that too in class. Haven't said anything through two stops with no issues or questions about it. Colorado, if that matters.

It's reciprocal in about 18 states. I wonder if the cops in reciprocal states can see the permit on their screen.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 15, 2017 04:00 PM (3myMJ)

334 Seeing how pendulum of history is swinging it really might be time to implement the Benedict option.
___
What makes you thing we will allow you to do so, peasant?

Posted by: The Left at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (eSx+E)

335 I will say that carrying a gun forced me to avoid confrontations and bite my tongue. May have helped me grow up some, ironically.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (xJa6I)

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Yup..... I just walk away. I dont want to shoot somebody because he tried to punch me out over a goddamned parking stall.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (8XRCm)

336 Uh-oh. Trump bringing up the left attacks on the alt-right. This is going to get ugly. Maybe as bad as Charlottesville.

Posted by: Ripley at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (MxEKc)

337 326 We're trying to keep from scaring baldilocks off.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 15, 2017 03:45 PM (U76Nz)

And taking quick glances at her tits.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 15, 2017 03:59 PM (Tnhbr)

If you stand over to the side, and out of her center of attention ... you can just stare as long as you want.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (ISejo)

338 He's Donald J. Trump. He's kicking asses, and taking names.
It's what he does.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (H5rtT)

339 PDT: "The driver of the car was a murderer"
==

*sigh*

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (OVUYQ)

340 If you're willing to jump through legal hoops to get the license, you're not likely to just go thatch and start shooting cops.

Go thatch?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (jhqr1)

341 The police in my little Indiana city are fine. County sherriffs are fine. Louisville Metro are typically dicks. State Police in KY and IN are a mixed bag.
Posted by: ScoggDog
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Hmm. Must be down around...New Albany?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (OdK9v)

342
Damn, y'all got lead feet or something? Last time I was pulled over was about 6 years ago. Speeding on Hwy 41 in Central CA. Told him right from the start that he got me fair and square (75 in a 55). Ran my squeaky clean driving record and decided to let me off the hook.

The fact that there was virtually no traffic on that road probably had something to do with it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 15, 2017 04:02 PM (veoSD)

343 If you don't want to tip, why are you going to a sit down restaurant?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 15, 2017 04:02 PM (eSx+E)

344 324. True on all counts. Heh....deputy, after retrieving my sidearm, 'What in the world is this, sir?' Long roadside chat about supposedly obsolete arms, with him using his smartphone to look up more info on it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 15, 2017 04:02 PM (BLln/)

345 *NOOD!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 15, 2017 04:03 PM (Ckg4U)

346 PDT: "The driver of the car was a murderer"
==

*sigh*
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton
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Hmm. A defense attorney is gonna make some hay out of that. PDT shouldn't have said anything beyond the most general of statements.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 04:03 PM (OdK9v)

347 Supposed to be a Conference on Infrastructure and all the leftist loons want to talk about is Charlottesville and "Are you really saying the left is as bad as Neo-Nazis?"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 15, 2017 04:03 PM (iVOAv)

348 "The driver of the car was a murderer"
***
Doesn't prompting the president of the united states to opine in public on an ongoing case prejudice the *entire national jury pool*?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 15, 2017 04:03 PM (eSx+E)

349
You were never a 'just the tip' kind of guy anyway, Shep.
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Hee hee heee....I know *blushes*

I'm more of a balls to the wall kinda guy...the wall of my colon!

Posted by: Shep! at August 15, 2017 04:03 PM (vg8iE)

350 The fact that there was virtually no traffic on that road probably had something to do with it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 15, 2017 04:02 PM (

That's a dangerous road in some spots.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 15, 2017 04:04 PM (Ri/rl)

351 kraken, maybe it is your license plate. In any case, we were taught in Ohio CC class to inform the officer as well, plus keep your hands behind your head, on the dashboard, or firmly clenched on the steering wheel.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 15, 2017 04:04 PM (FQKBL)

352 Hmm. Must be down around...New Albany?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 04:01 PM (OdK9v)

Pretty close. You know the area ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 04:04 PM (ISejo)

353
346 PDT: "The driver of the car was a murderer"
==

*sigh*
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton
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Hmm. A defense attorney is gonna make some hay out of that. PDT shouldn't have said anything beyond the most general of statements.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 15, 2017 04:03 PM (OdK9v)

"The police acted stupidly." - Barky McFuckstick

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 15, 2017 04:04 PM (veoSD)

354 This is incredible. Trump is laying out the fact on the protests, unapologetically. Nevre seen anything like this. Sounds like he reads this site.

Posted by: Ripley at August 15, 2017 04:06 PM (MxEKc)

355
Not as interesting as the CEO of Walmart telling Trump to stop paling around with Nazis
Posted by: Sure at August 15, 2017 03:58 PM (eVcto)

Yeah well how many black people did Sam Walton have working for him

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 15, 2017 04:06 PM (lKyWE)

356 344 324. True on all counts. Heh....deputy, after retrieving my sidearm, 'What in the world is this, sir?' Long roadside chat about supposedly obsolete arms, with him using his smartphone to look up more info on it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 15, 2017 04:02 PM (BLln/)

Another upside of the Tok?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 15, 2017 04:07 PM (xJa6I)

357 "Infrastructure question, next."
"Will the statue of Lee stay up?"

"It will if we reinforce the plinth. Thanks for your question."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 15, 2017 04:08 PM (H5rtT)

358 Last time I got pinched for speeding, I was driving two Boy Scouts home from an event. 75 in a 55. Cop saw the Scouts and said for me to be careful because the town liked to set up speed traps in that spot. Then said for me to have a nice day and let me go.

If I were in DC, I'd probably be in jail.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 15, 2017 04:09 PM (2VN2E)

359 I'm sure your view of law enforcement is different than anyone else's here ... unless they're crouched down.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 15, 2017 03:46 PM (ISejo)

*does not poke with stick*

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 15, 2017 04:10 PM (mf5HN)

360 Walmart does not make it easy to send them messages.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 15, 2017 04:11 PM (QQ+il)

361 Anyways, no Walmart for me until November 1st.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 15, 2017 04:13 PM (QQ+il)

362 If a policeman says "show me your papers", what does that mean?
Posted by: Roy at August 15, 2017 03:17

Protip: It does NOT mean get out your rolling papers.

Posted by: Farmer at August 15, 2017 04:23 PM (lfXAE)

363 As can be seen by my nic, I was a police officer. I've been out for almost 9 years and glad of it. By the time I retired, there was a discernible difference in how the younger cops thought about their jobs (executive summary: I thought most of them were lazy as fvk and had bad attitudes). I tried to teach them that you got better results with kind words and a gun than with a gun alone, but most didn't want to listen to the old-timers.

However, to proclaim that cops are all racist all the time is simply an effort to find a problem where none exists.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 15, 2017 04:29 PM (5Yee7)

364 >>>I wish I had a dollar for every time she's demonstrated her "I have my
license [lifts right boob] and registration [lifts left boob] right
here, officer."<<<

I'm going to let you off with a warning this time, but if I don't see more cleavage next time, I'm going to run you into the, ah, station.

Posted by: Deputy Fritz at August 15, 2017 04:43 PM (eLttb)

365 The answer is right in front of us, one race, will not be stopped, ticketed, arrested or even reprimanded no matter the crime.
They wish to run wild in the streets and be without responsibility or punishment, special citizens.

Posted by: obsidian at August 15, 2017 05:35 PM (ARK2U)

366 Yea, some cops are jerks. But, if you have numerous contacts with supposed jerk cops; maybe it's you not them.

Posted by: YatYas at August 16, 2017 09:04 AM (xN9Un)

367 Ultimately, all cops are judged by their skin color, just like everybody else in post-Obama America.

Posted by: WooWoo at August 16, 2017 10:15 AM (cYWKd)

368 Love ya, Horde!

Posted by: baldilocks at August 18, 2017 02:09 PM (VlyWV)

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