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Open Borders Marco's Embrace of Open Borders Without Limit Is the Very Opposite of Conservative Cautiousness

Fred Bauer writes at NRO about Open Borders Marco's call for no limits on immigration, except for market demand:

Caps on legal immigration have been a key component of U.S. immigration policy for generations....

A call for an uncapped immigration system would be a major departure from the norms of American immigration policy after the rise of modern transportation and the welfare state. There might be a further conservative argument on behalf of caps for a modern immigration system: Human limitations mean that sweeping policy efforts can have unforeseen consequences, which can make immigration policy especially tricky. Caps on legal immigration (whatever the criteria for legal immigration) might be viewed as a recognition of that limitation; because we don't
know all the long-term consequences of a given immigration paradigm, we should set limits on the immigration flow of any given year.

...

Immigration is an area where expert predictions have failed spectacularly. For instance, the proponents of the 1965 revision of immigration law did not predict the massive demographic change that their reforms would initiate....

A cap on legal immigration sets an absolute bound to the extent of this government-induced distortion. One of the great tensions between open-borders ideology and conservatism involves the role of moderation. Because of a recognition of the importance of conserving many existing civic institutions, conservatives often promote disruptional buffers to lessen the force of major social shocks, even ones that are well-intended. Caps on legal immigration might act as one such buffer. Open-borders advocates might cheer radical disruption in the pursuit of a borderless utopia, but conservatives remember that utopias are often the graveyards of hopes, good intentions, and prudence.

Don't worry, Open Borders Marco will dissemble about his position the next time he's running for something. (He was just re-elected and therefore feels he can be more honest -- on a temporary time-limited basis.)


Posted by: Ace at 12:18 PM




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1 Oh Mario. How I miss people telling us of your Tru Conservatism.

It was such a simpler time.....

Posted by: BurtTC at August 09, 2017 12:20 PM (TOk1P)

2 Mario's an intellectual and moral pipsqueak. Stuff like this does nothing but reinforce how untrustworthy he is.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2017 12:20 PM (oVJmc)

3 I hate the Republican party more now than when I was a registered Dem.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 09, 2017 12:21 PM (dZ756)

4 Utopias are also the graveyards of millions.

And conservatives tend to want to conserve things - like their nations.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Cool your Jets with an Outrage Outlet Snarlin' Smoothie! at August 09, 2017 12:21 PM (66/E/)

5 Yeah, I could never see the appeal of Marco Rubio. He kind of reminds me of a Hispanic elf.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:21 PM (aT+Bx)

6 I hate the Republican party more now than when I was a registered Dem.

Changed to Independent a while back...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2017 12:21 PM (O2RFr)

7 Market demand. There seems to be a demand for all those Federal and State bennies.

Posted by: t-bird at August 09, 2017 12:21 PM (2z74n)

8
Dondi. He had black eyes, dolls eyes....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:22 PM (mbhDw)

9 What a midget piece of shit.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at August 09, 2017 12:22 PM (+dsLj)

10 6
I hate the Republican party more now than when I was a registered Dem.



Changed to Independent a while back...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2017 12:21 PM (O2RFr)
I went Libertarian in 2000 or so. Not sure when, but it's been awhile.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 09, 2017 12:23 PM (dZ756)

11 Shinebox. Go get it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:23 PM (fA1SL)

12 He was just re-elected and therefore feels he can be more honest"

Well, just following in Barky's footsteps.

Being flexible, that is

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at August 09, 2017 12:23 PM (MINbv)

13 Market demand= demand by employers for low cost workers.

Market demand= demand by Democrats for cradle to grave voteres supported by the gubbermint.

Is it now safe to say that ALL corporations are defact Democrat supporters, since they're selling out America to the third world either by employing illegtals or by outsourcing their laborR?

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:24 PM (aT+Bx)

14 Foam glow party!!!

My socks are wet.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 09, 2017 12:24 PM (SsblQ)

15 11 Shinebox. Go get it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:23 PM (fA1SL)


Please retrieve your footwear maintenance container.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:24 PM (mbhDw)

16 Re: 14 I want my ampersand back.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 09, 2017 12:24 PM (SsblQ)

17 "Asian sex gang"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/272425/

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 12:25 PM (rmVvL)

18 The fire of a thousand suns doesn't equal the hatred for this or the other RINO sob's I hold. Thankfully, like Hillary, Marco Rubio will never be President.

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 12:25 PM (UmSfZ)

19 In a few years, he'll fill the John McCain Chair of Feckless Crapweaselness.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2017 12:26 PM (oVJmc)

20 Open-borders advocates might cheer radical disruption in the pursuit of a borderless utopia, but conservatives remember that utopias are often the graveyards of hopes, good intentions, and prudence.

Not to mention millions and millions of innocent people.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 09, 2017 12:26 PM (AM1GF)

21 The GOP is a useless pile of garbage.

We are simply not going to be able to vote our way out of our predicament.

These fuckers are simply beholden to their paymasters and will lie and adopt any position at any time to get re-elected.

Assholes!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at August 09, 2017 12:26 PM (9A6UB)

22 Well at least we know where he stands. Most Republican officeholders are still lying about it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 09, 2017 12:26 PM (398bZ)

23 Vegetable H8 has no home here!

Posted by: Marco the Gardner at August 09, 2017 12:26 PM (vtcmf)

24 17. Heh....'Asian,' since it's forbidden to say Pakistani Muslim.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:27 PM (fA1SL)

25 Who bitch he is?

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2017 12:27 PM (qV5PD)

26 Is it now safe to say that ALL corporations are defact Democrat supporters

Due to the onerous regulations and taxes and records they can avoid by going illegal. This has been created. Businesses can't "hire American" if it costs them their jobs.

Posted by: t-bird at August 09, 2017 12:27 PM (2z74n)

27 Remember back when Rubio was one of our up-and-coming stars?

Peppridge Farms remembers.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 09, 2017 12:27 PM (KUaJL)

28 This is my hill to die on. So if after Trump, the GOP goes back to the open border nonsense, I guess I'm out.

It really won't matter what "principles" conservatives espouse if we keep importing a million or so foreigners every year. But I guess "conservatives" can keep giving those lectures on the cruise circuit about chained CPI formulas without being called a racist.

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:27 PM (VDVsF)

29 Here's an un-PC observation: no hispanic candidates of any party can be trusted to enforce immigration laws and especially not those that may impact hispanic foreigners. Sorry, but that's the data.
Some may be great lovers of freedom and liberty, especially the Cubans, but in this area they simply cannot be relied on. So, vote accordingly.
Am I fired?

Posted by: The real Henderson James at August 09, 2017 12:28 PM (7A6l6)

30 Don't know if anyone else remembers, but I recall that Little Marco was 'washing his hair' when the RNC had its convention. Interesting that his very thinning hair is now full -- obviously a miracle.

Say what you will about Cruz, he was there and thanked his supporters. More than you can say about the others.

Marco and Jeb are some of the nastiest examples of RNCe perfidy there are -- right after McCain and Graham.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 12:28 PM (MIKMs)

31 Marco will never get over his parent's story. That's all he thinks about when he thinks about immigration with zero thought about the people already here.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2017 12:29 PM (/tuJf)

32 19
In a few years, he'll fill the John McCain Chair of Feckless Crapweaselness.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2017 12:26 PM (oVJmc)

No, the GOP has a seniority system. Marco must wait in line.

Posted by: Sen Graham at August 09, 2017 12:29 PM (XoldI)

33 Is it now safe to say that ALL corporations are defact Democrat supporters, since they're selling out America to the third world either by employing illegtals or by outsourcing their laborR?
Posted by: shibumi

______

Yes, along with Wall Street, Silicon Valley and most of the ultra wealthy.

But my guess is Republicans will continue to fall on their sword for these people.

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:29 PM (VDVsF)

34 Say what you will about Cruz, he was there and thanked his supporters. More than you can say about the others.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 12:28 PM (MIKMs)

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Agreed. But he did squander some of the benefit to himself by going one smirk too far.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 09, 2017 12:30 PM (SsblQ)

35 30, Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 12:28 PM (MIKMs)

He was washing his hair when the RNC convention was going on?? He actually volunteered that information? What a weird dude.

Posted by: IC at August 09, 2017 12:31 PM (a0IVu)

36 33 Also all our entertainment is made by people who hate us.

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 12:32 PM (rmVvL)

37 Say what you will about Cruz, he was there and thanked his supporters. More than you can say about the others.

Marco and Jeb are some of the nastiest examples of RNCe perfidy there are -- right after McCain and Graham.

Posted by: mustbequantum
_________


The same Ted Cruz that couldn't endorse Trump at the Convention?

Or the same Ted Cruz that wanted to double work visas to Mexico?

I REALLY wanted to like Ted Cruz, but I don't think he's much better than Marco Rubio

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:32 PM (VDVsF)

38 Here's some fine immigrants to Britain, which Open Borders Marco might want to import to the U.S.-

as they have run smack-dab into English white-privilege racism:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-

4775164/Police-paid-child-rapist-10k-spy-sex-

parties.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK

(remove extra spaces)

Posted by: naturalfake at August 09, 2017 12:33 PM (NyJwR)

39 This is my hill to die on. So if after Trump, the GOP goes back to the open border nonsense, I guess I'm out.

At the very least, I thought this would be one promise that would be kept. I guess I underestimated the power of the Global Cabal.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2017 12:33 PM (vtcmf)

40 Is he still wearing zipper boots? He's like the Sonny to Jeb's Cher. Totes hip.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 12:33 PM (YV+SU)

41 37 Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:32 PM (VDVsF)

For what it's worth, he never signed on to the Gang of 8.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:33 PM (mbhDw)

42 He's excited that he'll soon get prime billing and be on TV with Lindsay a lot more soon.

Movin' on up, b*tches!

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 12:33 PM (+fLLK)

43 Yeah, about that Asian Sex Gang article...

I'm still looking for the Asians!

Then I remembered, in Britain, Asian = Muzzie


Posted by: browndog at August 09, 2017 12:34 PM (bGMOs)

44 I don't think he's much better than Marco Rubio
Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:32 PM (VDVsF)
_______


well, at least he can reach the stuff on the top shelf in the kitchen cabinets.

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 12:34 PM (UmSfZ)

45 He was washing his hair when the RNC convention was going on?? He actually volunteered that information? What a weird dude. Posted by: IC at August 09, 2017 12:31 PM (a0IVu)
=====

Metaphor for declining a date. Sorry, I'm old and that is what used to be a 'polite' declination. I extended it with his miracle hair. Sometimes I am too obscure.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 12:34 PM (MIKMs)

46 The sooner people grok that a wide swathe of the electorate, of all ages and races, would very much appreciate NOT having their country become a flophouse for the rest of the world, the sooner they'll start winning elections.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:34 PM (fA1SL)

47 Then I remembered, in Britain, Asian = Muzzie

Well, West Asian, which in current Brit parlance generally translates to Pakistani.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:35 PM (TppKb)

48 Old and Busted: John McCain
New hotness: Juan "McCain" Rubio

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:36 PM (i17ZZ)

49 I have to laugh when I see the ads for the BBC police show Broadchurch."We have a sex predator who is a danger to the community..." I add "oh,he's a muslim,nevermind."

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 12:36 PM (rmVvL)

50
Rush is calling out McYertle for his lying. In the nicest possible way, but still.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:36 PM (mbhDw)

51 Funny to look at Rubio's political perception trajectory at aos. From Tea Party favorite to dumpster diving by ace to traitor.

He doesn't even have foolish consistency much regular consistency.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 12:36 PM (no/Pv)

52 Ugh.



There's gonna be another Gang of 8 or something, isn't there?
Gotta teach Trump - and us - a lesson about how things work in DC.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (NOIQH)

53 So, Marco want 'market forces' to control immigration numbers...

Which actually means BUSINESS LOBBYISTS will control immigration...

Yeah... that's a GREAT IDEA! for immigrants and business...

Not so much for the Average American...

Posted by: Don Q..,.. Philosophizer at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (NgKpN)

54 Our current immigration system is setup as an entitlement program geared toward admitting as many democrat voters and diminishing the white majority of this country.

The vast overwhelming majority of our immigrants are financially poor, poorly educated and upon arrival begin drawing from the vast social welfare apparatuses we have in this country.

We simply do not need additional immigrants and certainly no a million plus per year.

But I can easily see the retarded fucks of the GOP trying to cram down some insane Grand Comprehenisve Immigration Reform Monstrosity fronted by the Demented Maniac and all round asshole John McCain as one last hoorah for the Maverick Cocksucker.

Assholes.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (9A6UB)

55 Marco Rubio was once a great and powerful jedi knight. But the evil Darth Mario betrayed and murdered your representative.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (KUaJL)

56 48 Old and Busted: John McCain
New hotness: Juan "McCain" Rubio
Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:36 PM (i17ZZ)


A price above Rubios....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (mbhDw)

57 Is there a limit on immigration to Cuba? I'm asking for some Marine friends.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (YV+SU)

58 (remove extra spaces)

On the Daily Mail, as with many other sites e.g. Amazon, you don't need the entire URL that comes up with the page, just the stub with the appropriate reference ID:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4775164/

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (TppKb)

59 I remember way back when Pat Buchanan floated an idea that we basically take a 10 year moratorium on all new immigration.

It was one of those things the media howled about but it got like 70% support when people were polled.

This Chamber of Commerce type stance on immigration is not something people here want except for a handful of oligarchs.

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (VDVsF)

60 Back to the funny pages with you, Dondi.

Posted by: Corona at August 09, 2017 12:38 PM (9XEAs)

61 Conservatives --- when they even bother to try --- suck at making their arguments simple and relatable. How do you think people would feel about mass immigration if it were explained in terms of, "Every year, we add a population larger than the city of Dallas to our country through immigration."

Posted by: V the K at August 09, 2017 12:38 PM (O7MnT)

62 We don't need any immigration. If there were some specific person that we just can't do without, let Congress make them a citizen by legislation.


Hiatus Now!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2017 12:38 PM (LTHVh)

63 >>For instance, the proponents of the 1965 revision of immigration law did
not predict the massive demographic change that their reforms would
initiate....


Oh yeah, that was totes unexpected to everyone except for the people who pushed for it.

At what point does the term "unexpected" wear out?
There are economic models and other things that explain and predict all of this stuff that keeps being labeled "unexpected."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 12:39 PM (NOIQH)

64 45, Metaphor for declining a date. Sorry, I'm old and
that is what used to be a 'polite' declination. I extended it with his
miracle hair. Sometimes I am too obscure.


Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 12:34 PM (MIKM

No, its not you. I've lived here for over 17 years but some old time metaphors are still a mystery to me.

Posted by: IC at August 09, 2017 12:39 PM (a0IVu)

65 So, if we need low paid slaves, we get 'em?

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2017 12:39 PM (8ikIW)

66 You know what might excite the appetite for more legal immigration?

Rising wages and benefits, a stable economy, more cohesive communities, and less race-based special pleading/extra rights for newcomers.

What sort of idiot wants more immigration in a legal and cultural framework where some kid from El Salvador steps foot in the United States and gets the jump on his own bright, hardworking kid in University admissions, commercial loan programs, employment, etc.?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 09, 2017 12:39 PM (g8OaB)

67 49. Yep. If only they'd heeded the ur-meme:

https://youtu.be/U-EQJA8Ahac

Dat Face Soldier was a sage.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:40 PM (fA1SL)

68 @JEM

Right out of Lewis Carroll

Posted by: browndog at August 09, 2017 12:40 PM (bGMOs)

69 >>62
We don't need any immigration. If there were some specific
person that we just can't do without, let Congress make them a citizen
by legislation.

In this, we could learn a lot from North Korea. If there's some person we just can't do without, kidnap him.

Posted by: Zod at August 09, 2017 12:40 PM (Bdeb0)

70 Any honest poll aptly shows that Americans want immigration slowed down. People also believe, especially in blue collar jobs, that it is hurting their employment prospects.

But yeah Marco. You go girl.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:40 PM (i17ZZ)

71 There should be a way to recall these congressional assholes. I wonder if recall laws could be written by the states.

Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2017 12:40 PM (Fmupd)

72 If there's some person we just can't do without, kidnap him.

Boom!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2017 12:41 PM (LTHVh)

73 36 . LIGHT TV is owned by Roma Downey and her husband. The network is dedicated to family friendly content. A nice change from the sewer of programming out there.

Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2017 12:41 PM (qV5PD)

74 63 >>For instance, the proponents of the 1965 revision of immigration law did
not predict the massive demographic change that their reforms would
initiate....


Oh yeah, that was totes unexpected to everyone except for the people who pushed for it.

At what point does the term "unexpected" wear out?
There are economic models and other things that explain and predict all of this stuff that keeps being labeled "unexpected."
Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 12:39 PM (NOIQH)


Teddy Kennedy's Hart-Celler Act was all about the fear of a growing black middle class that would soon be able to join the ranks of the GOP.

The Democrats needed to import illiterate peasantry to both punish the country and wrest control. Period.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:41 PM (mbhDw)

75 We can do better than the Republicans we have.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2017 12:41 PM (LTHVh)

76 56. Brilliant. It's this lapidary wit that brings me back here every time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:41 PM (fA1SL)

77 its all about the money.

increasing supply of labor, forces down labor costs.

oversupply, decreases the price, under supply increases price.

Like gravity, this is true whether you "believe" it or not.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 12:41 PM (vDCJv)

78 Is there a limit on immigration to Cuba? I'm asking for some Marine friends.

You know, there are places in this hemisphere with nice weather, great geography, lots of developable resources, etc.

The problem is just rooting out the structures that already exist there.

But then I'm a colonialist. Not neo-colonialist, the old fashioned kind back when it worked.

And not the "they took one so we need two" kind of late-19th-century African nonsense, either, that led France down the Algerian rathole that's left them where they are today.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:41 PM (TppKb)

79 Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:32 PM (VDVsF)

Wasn't double work visas for Mexico specifically and he had a basis for his position whether you agreed with it or not. As the situation evolved he conceded that his position was untenable based on other demands being made.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 12:42 PM (no/Pv)

80 Any honest poll aptly shows that Americans want immigration slowed down. People also believe, especially in blue collar jobs, that it is hurting their employment prospects.

But yeah Marco. You go girl.
Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War

But the immigrants will push the blue collar workers into better paying jobs!! Using computers!..maybe even get to work for GOOGLE!!!!

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2017 12:42 PM (8ikIW)

81 At what point does the term "unexpected" wear out?
There are economic models and other things that explain and predict all of this stuff that keeps being labeled "unexpected."
Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 12:39 PM (NOIQH)

Something is "unexpected" when the real world refuses to conform to their nice neat little socialist framework. This doesn't mean that their framework is wrong, of course, it means that the world needs to be changed until it fits the model.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 09, 2017 12:42 PM (KUaJL)

82 69. Yep. Those Juche- themed kaiju flicks ain't gonna make themselves.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:42 PM (fA1SL)

83 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jeb! at August 09, 2017 12:43 PM (ctuyM)

84 Parents love watching their kids not being able to find a job in high school because adults who don't speak English are now filling all of those positions.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 12:44 PM (+fLLK)

85 We face many enemies - mostly internal - and the country is at the precipice but one of the most frustrating challenges is dealing with the treachery and back-stabbing and lack of resolve of our own side.


There's only one thing that the Democrats have that we don't and that is the guts to get their agenda done.


And I despise our side for that.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 09, 2017 12:44 PM (5XCN6)

86 I think Ted Kennedy's involvement with the 1965 Act came down to, "America killed my brothers and I'm going to punish the country for it."

I think it's as simple as that.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 12:44 PM (4ErVI)

87 >>its all about the money.

>>increasing supply of labor, forces down labor costs.

>>oversupply, decreases the price, under supply increases price.


It's also about the entitlement pyramid scheme. Every year the number of people paying in proportion to those taking out is going in the wrong direction.

They either need to increase the pool of people paying in or fix entitlements and we all know which of those they are going to choose.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2017 12:45 PM (/tuJf)

88 Here's an un-PC observation: no hispanic candidates of any party can be trusted to enforce immigration laws and especially not those that may impact hispanic foreigners. Sorry, but that's the data.
Some may be great lovers of freedom and liberty, especially the Cubans, but in this area they simply cannot be relied on. So, vote accordingly.
Am I fired?
--

Sad, but I agree.

To a certain extent, I'd say that one has to be be careful of female republicans. When the chips are down, they go prog. Becuase of "teh feelz."

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:45 PM (aT+Bx)

89 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Jeb!
_____


nope, not yet but thanks for asking.

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 12:45 PM (UmSfZ)

90 Oh re Glen Campbell - the soundtrack of a decade.

Never saw him play live, well, play guitar. Got to see him play five-iron on the course at Pebble some years back. Had never realized just how...Napoleonic of stature he was.

RIP.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:46 PM (TppKb)

91 >>82
69. Yep. Those Juche- themed kaiju flicks ain't gonna make themselves. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:42 PM (fA1SL)

The delicious irony of having kidnapped inferiors make films for the master-race Norks about juche is staggering. B.R. Myers would have much to say about this...

Posted by: Zod at August 09, 2017 12:46 PM (Bdeb0)

92 Unlimited immigration...

Its Story time boys and girls!

When I retired from the Navy, 20 years ago, the average Network Engineer with the premier Microsoft network Certification, made $67 K per year. Demand was high, and many 'Trade' schools were opening to support the demand.

Then, due to the 'shortage' of IT workers, business lobbyists got the government to do the H1B crap....

Those trade schools closed, Americans stopped getting those jobs...

H1Bs have continued... and the Average Network Engineer today? 20 Years Later? Average salary?

$67 K.

So after 20 years of inflation... those jobs are still paid the same amount... keeping up with inflation they should be in the High $90 K range..

THAT is what Economic Immigration does....

Posted by: Don Q..,.. Philosophizer at August 09, 2017 12:46 PM (NgKpN)

93 Almost all of our local landscapers were mostly staffed by migrants. The owners often bullshiited anyone who asked if they were legal. This was a real problem after a "migrant" raped and murdered a mother of three.

Oddly after Trump they are all disappearing, you know those legal workers. Lots of white guys now doing the jobs Mexicans don't want to do.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:46 PM (i17ZZ)

94 Here's an un-PC observation: no hispanic candidates of any party can be trusted to enforce immigration laws and especially not those that may impact hispanic foreigners. Sorry, but that's the data.
Some may be great lovers of freedom and liberty, especially the Cubans, but in this area they simply cannot be relied on. So, vote accordingly.
Am I fired?


---

(Insert AtC's rant against will to power here.)

Identity politics is evil.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 09, 2017 12:46 PM (KUaJL)

95
Posted by: The real Henderson James at August 09, 2017 12:28 PM (7A6l6)

The Megazoid says 'Hi.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2017 12:47 PM (oVJmc)

96 the sad thing is, this position is probably to the right of Jeb! and his $150M purchase of the gop nomination.

thank God for trump, if only for this reason.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 12:47 PM (AU4SY)

97 Am I fired?

Yes, but if you're fired from a company with deep pockets a good lawyer can shake loose a $5M settlement.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:48 PM (TppKb)

98 86 I think Ted Kennedy's involvement with the 1965 Act came down to, "America killed my brothers and I'm going to punish the country for it."

I think it's as simple as that.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 12:44 PM (4ErVI)


It came between the assassinations but I think it's worse than that. It was all about the accrual of power and influence, pure and simple. And all those new voters who will vote for him in '68 or '72.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:48 PM (mbhDw)

99 On the Daily Mail, as with many other sites e.g. Amazon, you don't need the entire URL that comes up with the page, just the stub with the appropriate reference ID:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4775164/
Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:37 PM (TppKb)



Christ, what a bunch of plug uglies. If I were an immigration officer I'd have denied them entry just for being ugly. They make GorillaPundit look like Brad Pitt.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 12:48 PM (SRKgf)

100 Identity politics is evil, but even Maxine Waters knows you don't drive down some streets after dark.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 12:48 PM (+fLLK)

101 They either need to increase the pool of people paying in or fix entitlements and we all know which of those they are going to choose.
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I agree in principle this this is also an issue. However, I no longer think the republicans are serious about this since they seem to want to open the doors to people that will not be able to contribute as much as they will be taking, thus in "net" terms making the problem worse not better.

The merit based scheme of immigration has the best logical chance of creating a sustainable inflow of people who can either now or will be able to eventually pay their own way.

MS 13 gang banger aren't going to help us out in the long run, but apparently Dondi and his ilk don't care.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (wtet5)

102 >>The Democrats needed to import illiterate peasantry to both punish the country and wrest control. Period.



Just like in the UK where Labor partymemos were found from ~15 years ago that plainly state they are increasing immigration to dilute the conservative vote and "rub their noses in it."

Yeah, NOT unexpected.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (NOIQH)

103 It's also about the entitlement pyramid scheme. Every year the number of people paying in proportion to those taking out is going in the wrong direction.


They either need to increase the pool of people paying in or fix entitlements and we all know which of those they are going to choose.
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1. Not going to fix entitelements. EVER.

2. Not going to increase the pool of people paying in, since "unemployment" and "disability" are the two hottest career choices now.

3. Hey middle class! Do we have a plan for you! If you're working, it's YOUR responsiblity to support Americans who have decided not to participate in the system. Your taxes are going to skyrocket, and we're going to take everything you earn and turn you inot the working poor, but it's OK. We all know it's the job of working Republicans to support non-working Democrats and Minorites. It's in the Constitutuion!

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (aT+Bx)

104 I think Ted Kennedy's involvement with the 1965 Act came down to, "America killed my brothers and I'm going to punish the country for it."

I think it's as simple as that.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 12:44 PM (4ErVI)



More of lefty drunk asshole who wanted to flood the country with people who would vote Democrat

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (493sH)

105 Identity politics is evil.


As a matter of fact, it is fundamentally un-American. And anyone who supports it is an enemy of the country. And we need to start acting like it.


For fuck's sake.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (5XCN6)

106 >>Oddly after Trump they are all disappearing, you
know those legal workers. Lots of white guys now doing the jobs
Mexicans don't want to do. Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:46 PM (i17ZZ)

Zod's crew of underpriced Aztec helots remain dutifully on-station. In fact, it's nearly time to get the leaves blown and bagged...

Posted by: Zod at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (Bdeb0)

107 91. Hey, they kidnapped the best! Shanghaied his wife, too. See? They cared about him.

Bulgasari - not too bad for what it was. Needs more lens-flare & CGI.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (fA1SL)

108 Am I fired?

---

Tell them you thought they meant Cubans as in cigars and you should be able to sue for $60K or so.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (+fLLK)

109 Oddly after Trump they are all disappearing, you know those legal workers. Lots of white guys now doing the jobs Mexicans don't want to do.

You know the biggest culture shock for many Sac-and-south Californians traveling elsewhere in the country?

That you find non-Hispanics working retail.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (TppKb)

110 It never ceases to amaze me how much stock that grown-ass, otherwise rational men and women, will place in a halfway pretty face which spews forth articulate-sounding, but utterly meaningless platitudes.

Rubio has exactly one thing propping him up, and it's his family's immigration history.

WTH else has he to offer?

(insert requisite 'opportunistic little shit' remark here)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (nAp1e)

111 Wasn't double work visas for Mexico specifically and he had a basis for his position whether you agreed with it or not. As the situation evolved he conceded that his position was untenable based on other demands being made.

Posted by: Jack Sock

_____________

He tried to play down the middle with the whole "let them stay and bring them in, but don't allow them to be citizens" which is absurd and basically the same thing as all the previous Amnesty promises

Here Cruz is on vide saying he wished to dramatically expand legal immigration.

https://tinyurl.com/zpk39wa


Sort of sounds good, but if you bring millions and millions of legal immigrants in here, its not going to be the same country anymore and they will eventually get voting rights

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (VDVsF)

112 >>Christ, what a bunch of plug uglies. If I were an immigration officer
I'd have denied them entry just for being ugly. They make GorillaPundit
look like Brad Pitt.




Cousin marriages for generations...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (NOIQH)

113 That you find non-Hispanics working retail.

Okay, that's not entirely true. We have Asians working retail here, as well, but mostly in businesses that they or their families own.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:51 PM (TppKb)

114 They either need to increase the pool of people
paying in or fix entitlements and we all know which of those they are
going to choose.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2017 12:45 PM (/tuJf)
___________________I'm not saying it's a total solution, but employing the long-term unemployed (no longer looking, therefore not being counted as unemployed) and rising wages would make an impact to bend the curve.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 09, 2017 12:51 PM (g8OaB)

115 I would say the Democrats need more people who are ignorant of reality to vote for them (and apparently Little Marco) but that quota seems to be full.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:51 PM (i17ZZ)

116
WTH else has he to offer?
--

He appeals to the elf populaton?

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:51 PM (aT+Bx)

117 Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (VDVsF)

What's that have to do with your misstatement he wanted to double Mexican visas? You have a legitimate argument. You don't have to misrepresent it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 12:52 PM (no/Pv)

118 >>WTH else has he to offer?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (nAp1e)

Mrs. Rubio. He has Mrs. Rubio to offer, if they roll like that.

Posted by: Zod at August 09, 2017 12:52 PM (Bdeb0)

119 WTH else has he to offer?

He's a water drinking maniac?

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2017 12:52 PM (8ikIW)

120 It's also about the entitlement pyramid scheme. Every year the number of people paying in proportion to those taking out is going in the wrong direction.

They either need to increase the pool of people paying in or fix entitlements and we all know which of those they are going to choose.


1. Look the other way while unskilled, uneducated illegal immigrant families swarm over the border and pile onto the social welfare system while dad, IF he works at all, gets paid under the table and contributes nothing to the Social Security system

2. ?????

3. Social Security solvency and PROFIT!!!!

Yeah. That should work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 09, 2017 12:52 PM (Mouru)

121 118 >>WTH else has he to offer?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (nAp1e)

Mrs. Rubio. He has Mrs. Rubio to offer, if they roll like that.

Posted by: Zod at August 09, 2017 12:52 PM (Bdeb0)


His dad can mix a wicked pina colada.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:52 PM (mbhDw)

122 You know the biggest culture shock for many Sac-and-south Californians traveling elsewhere in the country?

That you find non-Hispanics working retail.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (TppKb)

Retail? Yeah, about that...

Posted by: Amazon at August 09, 2017 12:52 PM (7HtZB)

123 He appeals to the elf population?

============
He knows how to make delicious cookies inside a tree?

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (C7nq+)

124 So, if we need low paid slaves, we get 'em?
Posted by: Bruce



Home Depot's parking lot. Every morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (U76Nz)

125 MS 13 gang banger aren't going to help us out in the long run, but apparently Dondi and his ilk don't care.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 12:49 PM (wtet5)
________________
Maybe so, but he uses toilet paper (we hope) and that increases Kimberly-Clark's profits quarter over quarter. It's just basic economics and we'll all be the richer for having more toilet-paper-users.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (g8OaB)

126 98 86 I think Ted Kennedy's involvement with the 1965 Act came down to, "America killed my brothers and I'm going to punish the country for it."

I think it's as simple as that.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 12:44 PM (4ErVI)


It came between the assassinations but I think it's worse than that. It was all about the accrual of power and influence, pure and simple. And all those new voters who will vote for him in '68 or '72.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:48 PM (mbhDw)


Amazing how the Kennedys are looked upon with such favor considering the nothing-short-of-evil they are starting with their patriarch Joe. Rose was probably the only innocent one, and look what they did to her.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (jxbfJ)

127 Christ, what a bunch of plug uglies. If I were an immigration officer I'd have denied them entry just for being ugly. They make GorillaPundit look like Brad Pitt.

What they needed was Fathers With Firearms.

Sadly, kids in the UK often lack both.

A Mohammed facing a 12-gauge would be one repentant rapist.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (TppKb)

128 who knows the lyrics to "Cuban Pete"?

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (wtet5)

129 106. Offer to tip them handsomely if they sing Jesusita en Chihuahua while wearing MAGA sombreros.

https://youtu.be/8Z3mgnHqAXg

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (fA1SL)

130 Frankly the country is full up,we don't need legal immigrants either.We should put a speaker on the statue of Liberty to tell them so.

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 12:54 PM (rmVvL)

131 I'm not saying it's a total solution, but employing the long-term unemployed (no longer looking, therefore not being counted as unemployed) and rising wages would make an impact to bend the curve.
--

You're assuming that ALL the long term unemployed WANT to work, and WILL work if they're given a job.

Not sure that's the case. I know people who are under-employed, and have collected unemployment every year since 1980. They don't really want to work, and the government is all too eager to support their work "hobby. "

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:54 PM (aT+Bx)

132 This is the crap that makes me nervous about moving to Florida. I don't need to move from hell in NY to a state slowly moving towards hell in the future.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:54 PM (i17ZZ)

133 His dad can mix a wicked pina colada.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

That's fine, If you like Pina Coladas...

Or getting caught in the rain...

AHHHH Brainworm

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2017 12:54 PM (8ikIW)

134 >>The merit based scheme of immigration has the best logical chance of creating a sustainable inflow of people who can either now or will be able to eventually pay their own way.

Yea, I completely agree with Trump on this one. All people have to do is look at Europe and see that uncontrolled immigration doesn't fix anything, not even low wages, and the problems it causes outweigh any possible benefits.

It's ridiculous we even have to have this discussion.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2017 12:54 PM (/tuJf)

135 So after 20 years of inflation... those jobs are
still paid the same amount... keeping up with inflation they should be
in the High $90 K range..
THAT is what Economic Immigration does....Posted by: Don Q..,.. Philosophizer at August 09, 2017 12:46 PM (NgKN)
=====

It is very difficult for me to even be semi-polite about a scumbag like IL's own Luis Gutierrez -- family from Puerto Rico. PR citizens are US citizens. In fact, there were huge gang fights in IL between PR and Mexicans.

But, again, I am old and remember this stuff -- especially that PR and Mex would not share neighborhoods. PR seems more east coast to me because when I was growing up, we were still semi-rural and Mexican immigrants were stronger in my area.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (MIKMs)

136 He appeals to the elf population?

============
He knows how to make delicious cookies inside a tree?


*****


See, now THAT would make me like him a little bit

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (nAp1e)

137 133 His dad can mix a wicked pina colada.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

That's fine, If you like Pina Coladas...

Or getting caught in the rain...

----------

And add hemp to champagne.

Posted by: josephistan at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (7HtZB)

138 He knows how to make delicious cookies inside a tree?
--

Sigh.

Probably not.

So honestly, I can't find something about Rubio that is appealing.

/but then again, I really never could...

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (aT+Bx)

139 Ahem.

Senator LITTLE Marco.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (oVJmc)

140 We should have a height requirement of five-foot for immigrants. That would get rid of Marco and about 90% of South America.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (i17ZZ)

141 126 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 09, 2017 12:53 PM (jxbfJ)

I could make a case that Hart-Cellar and The Great Society/War on Poverty caused the lion's share (no pun) of the pain and suffering we are enduring now.

Teddy Kennedy was worse for the nation than even Obama. Obama's reign of terror was a symptom of Teddy Kennedy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (mbhDw)

142 Then, due to the 'shortage' of IT workers, business lobbyists got the government to do the H1B crap

I lost a plum IT job that I was very good at (if I do say so myself) to that very crap because my replacement who flew in on a magic carpet was able to undercut my salary by half. "No hard feelings, BFD? You certainly can understand that it's strictly a business decision, right?" My response? "Eat four bags of dicks".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (vtcmf)

143 Don't worry, Open Borders Marco will dissemble about his position the next time he's running for something. (He was just re-elected and therefore feels he can be more honest -- on a temporary time-limited basis.)

McCain has taught him well.

Posted by: rickl at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (xjiRE)

144 To a certain extent, I'd say that one has to be be careful of female republicans. When the chips are down, they go prog. Becuase of "teh feelz."
Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:45 PM (aT+Bx)

Completely anecdotal but I actually know a woman who was a reliable Republican voter until PDT won the primary. She then went both full NeverTrump and Hillbot.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (0mRoj)

145 As has been noted numerous times on this blog, we ain't gonna be voting ourselves out of this mess.

I miss Allen G.

Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (Fmupd)

146 Frankly the country is full up,we don't need legal immigrants either.We should put a speaker on the statue of Liberty to tell them so.
===============

We are closed. Girl out front with the Torch should have told ay.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 12:57 PM (wtet5)

147 Not going to fix entitelements. EVER.

There's only two ways entitlements are going to be "fixed." 1. We run out of money and the FAS goes feral. 2. Somebody invents replicators.

Is Elon Musk, per chance, experimenting with replicators? Either of the Gate or Trek kind will solve the problem.

Posted by: V the K at August 09, 2017 12:57 PM (O7MnT)

148 145 As has been noted numerous times on this blog, we ain't gonna be voting ourselves out of this mess.

I miss Allen G.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (Fmupd)

Yeah me too. Whatever happened to him?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2017 12:57 PM (0mRoj)

149 138 Gabe finds him "hot" iirc....

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (rmVvL)

150 As has been noted numerous times on this blog, we ain't gonna be voting ourselves out of this mess.

I miss Allen G.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (Fmupd)


Did you hear he has a blog?

Will wonders never cease...

Posted by: BurtTC at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (TOk1P)

151 OT - 44% of tiny home buyers regret their decision. Here's my shocked face.

Posted by: josephistan at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (7HtZB)

152 To a certain extent, I'd say that one has to be be careful of female republicans. When the chips are down, they go prog. Becuase of "teh feelz."

Susan Collins
Mary Jo Capito
Lisa Murcorruptski

Posted by: V the K at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (O7MnT)

153 Completely anecdotal but I actually know a woman who was a reliable Republican voter until PDT won the primary. She then went both full NeverTrump and Hillbot.
---

Actually, I was talking about female republican politicians.

However, a lot of women are just batsh*t crazy. Not totally their fault; I think most female brains are wired to be more emotional, plus... the hormonez.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (aT+Bx)

154 >>Frankly the country is full up,we don't need legal immigrants either.We
should put a speaker on the statue of Liberty to tell them so.


Prop a moose at the border that says "Closed"

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (NOIQH)

155 130 Frankly the country is full up,we don't need legal immigrants either.We should put a speaker on the statue of Liberty to tell them so.
Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 12:54 PM (rmVvL)


Replace Lady Liberty with a giant moose.

Posted by: rickl at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (xjiRE)

156 step 1. Haha, you americans need illegals to do work like picking lettuce your lazy citizens are too entitled to do.

step 2. what? A guest work visa program? What are you Hitler....? The ONLY way to pick lettuce is chain migration based workers. and tbh voters.

step 3. trump

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 12:59 PM (AU4SY)

157 Is Elon Musk, per chance, experimenting with replicators? Either of the Gate or Trek kind will solve the problem.
Posted by: V the K at August 09, 2017 12:57 PM (O7MnT)


Yeah, about that. Turns out replicators are possible, but they can only be powered by oil. How weird, huh?

Anyway obviously you can see how we're never going to do that.

Posted by: Elon Musk at August 09, 2017 12:59 PM (KUaJL)

158 Marco is thirsty for more immigration.

Posted by: fluffy at August 09, 2017 12:59 PM (jw2Xw)

159 As has been noted numerous times on this blog, we ain't gonna be voting ourselves out of this mess.


Since PDT I'm a little less concerned about the immediate future if the US now, but long term I still watch for signs of zombies.

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 12:59 PM (UmSfZ)

160 while dad, IF he works at all, gets paid under the table and contributes nothing to the Social Security system

---

I also like the part where dad works, lives in a two bedroom apartment with seven other identical workers, and sends all of his money home for five years before returning, and the job is taken over by another interchangeable illegal as Tommy, Chad, and A-Aron can't figure out how to get their foot in the door after high school.

Or can't figure out why Tommy, Chad, and A-Aron's Drywall and Painting Services that the friends started fresh out of high school can't get much work even though they're bidding so low that they lose money on most jobs but hope they can do it long enough to establish themselves without going under.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:00 PM (+fLLK)

161 I lost a plum IT job that I was very good at (if I do say so myself) to that very crap because my replacement who flew in on a magic carpet was able to undercut my salary by half. "No hard feelings, BFD? You certainly can understand that it's strictly a business decision, right?" My response? "Eat four bags of dicks".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (vtcmf)


If that company has a pension plan they'll shit-can your replacement a bunch of years later but two weeks before they have to start setting aside money for his/her retirement. Lather rinse repeat.

That the Republican Party is complicit in Americans losing their jobs to this practice is disheartening.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at August 09, 2017 01:00 PM (EgwCt)

162 Politicians are just middle-management, between the owners and the workers.

Posted by: davidt at August 09, 2017 01:00 PM (XoldI)

163 154 >>Frankly the country is full up,we don't need legal immigrants either.We
should put a speaker on the statue of Liberty to tell them so.

***

the latest great american effort what we need millions of new immigrants for isn't a civil war or open frontier but the progressives' war on america itself. Normies aren't going to vote themselves out of existence, are they? that's why we need 3rd world peasants who would drop everything they have to chain migrate to the west with only the promise of lifelong welfare.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:01 PM (AU4SY)

164 162. Itching for a chopper ride, are ya?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:01 PM (fA1SL)

165 Rubio seems to have bought into the Walker Solution. I don't understand why can't we trade all those who blame America and hate it for those who want to live here, understand freedom, and would love to serve it?

Can't someone negotiate with the leftists and some leaders of other countries very far away?

Wouldn't the leftists jump at the chance to give foreigners the chance to take their spot and live the American dream that they hate?

I would much rather live amongst a bunch of foreigners who can't speak english than these assholes. Can we please start working on exporting our problem children ASAP?!

Posted by: Lowpaid, not slave at August 09, 2017 01:01 PM (gs/Z2)

166
To a certain extent, I'd say that one has to be be careful of female republicans. When the chips are down, they go prog. Becuase of "teh feelz."


Susan Collins
Mary Jo Capito
Lisa Murcorruptski
---

Yep.

It's not 100% across the board, but right now there are five Republican females, and I'm not sure if any of them are 100% trustworthy.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:01 PM (aT+Bx)

167 Politicians are just middle-management, between the owners and the workers.
Posted by: davidt

So like agents, with less scruples.

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2017 01:01 PM (8ikIW)

168 Rubio thinks half a million is "an arbitrary" restriction.

arbitrary: the quality of being determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle.

Trump's number is not arbitrary, it is based on many things, including the failure of higher numbers to assimilate, higher numbers depressing wages ... several factors.

Rubio puts zero restrictions on his arbitrary no limit plan, other than "demand". Demand to replace American bred workers with foreigners, who are so desperate to escape their narco-state regime they will work cheap, and be obligated to serve their new "boss/master" to remain in the country. And they will send remittances back to their homeland instead of building the community that hires and houses them.

America is not a nation of immigrants ... most were born here and have family that fought for our liberty.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2017 01:01 PM (b+0FS)

169 Is Elon Musk, per chance, experimenting with replicators?

Only in the sense of government printing him money.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2017 01:01 PM (oVJmc)

170 Liberals love to talk about the Statue of Liberty and quote that stupid poem like it's the constitution. What they don't talk about is how people were processed through an immigration center and had no right to anything. Ditto how you had to have money and somewhere to go. You could not count on any handouts and had to work to live.

Because, you know, that would spoil their lies.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:02 PM (i17ZZ)

171 I would love for Rubio to come to Jesus on this and figure out national security requires controlled borders, but I think he's hopless here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:02 PM (39g3+)

172
That the Republican Party is complicit in Americans losing their jobs to this practice is disheartening.
=============
It all makes more sense when you look at it as the uniparty.

Its big time wrestling - scripted villains, outcomes, grudge matches and comebacks, but in the end nothing ever changes except we are losing freedom, wealth and security.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:02 PM (C7nq+)

173 I also like the part where dad works, lives in a two bedroom apartment with seven other identical workers, and sends all of his money home for five years before returning, and the job is taken over by another interchangeable illegal as Tommy, Chad, and A-Aron can't figure out how to get their foot in the door after high school.

***

I know, right? The point of this was to, sure sure, help out big biz but also, tbh, to get his family from india here after those 5 years to vote democrat.

XXOO

Jeb Bush and company, doing the work for democrats that most republicans won't do.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:03 PM (AU4SY)

174 Frankly the country is full up,we don't need legal immigrants either.We should put a speaker on the statue of Liberty to tell them so.
Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 12:54 PM (rmVvL)

Replace Lady Liberty with a giant moose.
Posted by: rickl at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (xjiRE)


Heck, if we're going to enforce the Statute of Liberty as the law of the land, let's enforce the whole damn thing.

You know, the clause about "yearning to be free?"

I'd like to see some yearning. If you come here asking what you can get, you don't qualify. Out you go.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 09, 2017 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

175 I lost a plum IT job that I was very good at (if I do say so myself) to that very crap because my replacement who flew in on a magic carpet was able to undercut my salary by half. "No hard feelings, BFD? You certainly can understand that it's strictly a business decision, right?" My response? "Eat four bags of dicks".
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2017 12:56 PM (vtcmf)



But but but that's Unpossible! Under the law they can't replace American workers! You just don't understand!

(I hope the sarcasm tag isn't needed)

Yeah, the stories like that are too numerous just to be anecdotes. Not to mention the stories about how the companies that bring the people over treat them more or less as indentured servants. But, hey, you're a Republican, right, so you like capitalism and that's just capitalism at work!

Uh huh.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 09, 2017 01:03 PM (mf5HN)

176 172. You forgot the bloody and fratricidal civil unrest that leads to death squads at best, and civil war at worst.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:04 PM (fA1SL)

177 OT: Dr. Jordan Peterson interviewed James Damore about his firing ("putting his hand in a blender") from Google:

http://tinyurl.com/yba3msba

Posted by: Dennis Rodman at August 09, 2017 01:04 PM (8TdcF)

178 Since PDT I'm a little less concerned about the immediate future if the US now, but long term I still watch for signs of zombies.
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Pretty sure the Norks are going to Kill Us All unless we do what they want.

And the Iranians. Pretty sure we need to do what they want too.

At least, that's what the MSM said yesterday.

/have we bee bombed yet? The MSM seems to think it's IMMINENT, so be sure to stay under your desk at all times.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:04 PM (aT+Bx)

179 170 Liberals love to talk about the Statue of Liberty and quote that stupid poem like it's the constitution. What they don't talk about is how people were processed through an immigration center and had no right to anything. Ditto how you had to have money and somewhere to go. You could not count on any handouts and had to work to live.

Because, you know, that would spoil their lies.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:02 PM (i17ZZ)

Yeah the ethnics set up support organizations to help smooth the transition. Even today you'll see something like The Sons of Angelo or something similar and it's a social club but it likely started back when the Italians were coming in.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 01:04 PM (4ErVI)

180 The American system would feel particularly rigged for younger kids if they woke up one day and found their life paths had followed this route:

1. go to college, get $100K in loans.
2. go to job fair and realize you're not diverse enough.
2a. listen to politicians say americans aren't educated enough
2b. listen to same say borders are racist and you should give up job because diversity.
3. DOE SWAT team tries to collect on student loans.
4. get job unrelated to degree bc H1B etc etc

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:05 PM (AU4SY)

181 29 Here's an un-PC observation: no hispanic candidates of any party can be trusted to enforce immigration laws and especially not those that may impact hispanic foreigners. Sorry, but that's the data.
Some may be great lovers of freedom and liberty, especially the Cubans, but in this area they simply cannot be relied on. So, vote accordingly.
Am I fired?
Posted by: The real Henderson James at August 09, 2017 12:28 PM (7A6l6)
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You're not fired. But you are ignorant.

Poll after poll has shown that a solid majority of "Hispanics" oppose illegal immigration. This is true even of Mexican-Americans. (Whose neighborhoods and job prospects are most hurt by the illegals?)

When it comes to "Hispanic" legal immigrants, whether they are first or second generation, the opposition to illegal aliens is overwhelming.

You are falling for the GOPe line that the way to get more "Hispanic" votes is to support open borders. NOPE.

Marco Rubio supports mass immigration, not because he is a Cuban, but because he is a corporate stooge.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:05 PM (0jtPF)

182 Ditto how you had to have money and somewhere to go. You could not count on any handouts and had to work to live.

Because, you know, that would spoil their lies.
Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:02 PM (i17ZZ)
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People have bought into Hollywood's version of the little immigrant boy that spoke no English with just a name tag attached to his coat coming in to Ellis Island and growing up to be rich and powerful and providing for his large extended family until he dies and old and wise man.
You know, like the Godfather.

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:05 PM (UmSfZ)

183 171 I would love for Rubio to come to Jesus on this and figure out national security requires controlled borders, but I think he's hopless here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:02 PM (39g3+)


Is that "jeeze-us" or "hey-zeus?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 01:06 PM (mbhDw)

184 Maybe we should change the Statue of Liberty poem to 'No Workee - No Eatee' in an effort to be woke and be solvent. It rhymes too!

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 01:06 PM (YV+SU)

185 Rubio puts zero restrictions on his arbitrary no limit plan, other than "demand".
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In economics the demand can be elastic or inelastic. If price goes up with elastic demand, the demand goes down. If it is perfectly inelastic, it never changes. For example you demand for oxygen is inelastic. You'd pay any price for a breath if you had to pay for it.

Here, the demand for continuously ever cheap supply of labor is - inelastic - to those whose pocket rubio's hand is in.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:06 PM (KMYbc)

186 we are fucking full. I mean, sure there's room if you want to plow over every square inch of the country side to put up mile after mile of townhomes in the middle of nowhere.

which I've seen literally everywhere I've travelled in past few years.

3 million fucking ___s a year plus the illegals and the asylum seekers (thanks bush and reagan).

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:06 PM (AU4SY)

187 You know the biggest culture shock for many Sac-and-south Californians traveling elsewhere in the country?

That you find non-Hispanics working retail.

Posted by: JEM at August 09, 2017 12:50 PM (TppKb)


Yeah. It's like seeing an Anglo roofing crew.

And some have surmised that I must be the only Anglo in CA who does his own lawn.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:07 PM (SRKgf)

188 151 OT - 44% of tiny home buyers regret their decision. Here's my shocked face.

Posted by: josephistan at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (7HtZB)

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Idiots. Dirt-poor people in the South have been living in those things for 100 years. Do you think it's because they want a minimalist lifestyle? No. It's because it's all they can afford, and all they can afford is complete sh*t that is horrible to live in.

And you idiots are paying $100K for them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:07 PM (RwlMe)

189 I'm noticing a distinct split in the right where some think conservative means "pro business, low taxes" and others think it means "small government, constitutional." There's been a coalition of sorts in the past and now that there's a very business-friendly guy in office you'd think it would be even stronger.

The problem is, definition one is not made up of people who want small government. They are fine with big government, as long as they control it and help business. These are chamber of commerce types, for whom open borders just means cheap labor and low tarriffs. That's all they care about.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:07 PM (39g3+)

190 For the record, I no longer trust ANY politician. White, hispanic, male, female or "other."

No. More. Professional. Politicians.

I decided that during the Presidential primaries. The only two I could support were Carson and Trump and Carson was just too nice.

Which is why I will probably vote for Kid Rock.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (aT+Bx)

191 5. Be lectured you can't be upset because you have "white privilege" and you're a racist (by default).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

192 Off, tatted NK intermediary sock!

Posted by: fly gal at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (8TdcF)

193 184 Maybe we should change the Statue of Liberty poem to 'No Workee - No Eatee' in an effort to be woke and be solvent. It rhymes too!
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 01:06 PM (YV+SU)



We could just swap out the Statue of Liberty with a moose out front.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (SRKgf)

194 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:05 PM (0jtPF)

I think you're missing his point.

He's saying any Hispanic politicians really loves them lots of Hispanic immigrants and will stab the natives in the back every time if given enough power.

And frankly he's right. It's been obvious for a long time that they're very, VERY interested in their co-ethnics in a way that would cause meltdowns if Whites were doing it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (4ErVI)

195 (I hope the sarcasm tag isn't needed)


Nope. Spot on. Fortunately, I had no trouble finding another good position but then that firm got swallowed up in a buyout and it was funemployment time for a while. I finally feel semi-secure in a small shop working with good, technically proficient, like-minded folks. It ain't easy out there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (vtcmf)

196 Here, the demand for continuously ever cheap supply of labor is - inelastic - to those whose pocket rubio's hand is in.

Yep - makes me think of Pakistan - the destination that all globalist have for our people.

Remember, shopping is being patriotic.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (YV+SU)

197 And some have surmised that I must be the only Anglo in CA who does his own lawn.

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in what's either a piece of movie magic or a glimpse into times gone by, watch the Terminator 2 movie. The garden guy they steal the truck from at the end of the movie is a cracker ass cracker. in LA!

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (AU4SY)

198 188. I regret not getting in on the ground floor of that scam.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (fA1SL)

199 >>Yeah the ethnics set up support organizations to
help smooth the transition. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 01:04 PM (4ErVI)

Zod supported the cultivation of such a group among his laborers. Newcomers were told about the water ration, instructed to avert the eyes, and were shown the knout and where it hung on a nail (and told about when it would be deployed).

Zod doesn't want all you "immigration reform crusaders" messing with a sullen but obedient and productive workforce.

Posted by: Zod at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (Bdeb0)

200 183 171 I would love for Rubio to come to Jesus on this and figure out national security requires controlled borders, but I think he's hopless here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:02 PM (39g3+)


Is that "jeeze-us" or "hey-zeus?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 01:06 PM (mbhDw)

That creep can roll.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (7HtZB)

201 He doesn't even have foolish consistency much regular consistency.

Of course not. He's a hobgoblin in his own right. With what would he be having one for?

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (eXSOZ)

202 These are chamber of commerce types, for whom open borders just means cheap labor and low tarriffs. That's all they care about.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:07 PM (39g3+)



Will Bynn: Watch it buddy, or I'll report you

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (493sH)

203 You know, the clause about "yearning to be free?"

I'd like to see some yearning. If you come here asking what you can get, you don't qualify. Out you go.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 09, 2017 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

Seems it's mostly "yearning for free shit" these days.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (iPbwM)

204 Rubio isn't really conservative. Or he's not conservative all the way around. He's squishy on immigration.

It is known.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (3OIiX)

205 44% of tiny home buyers regret their decision. Here's my shocked face.

The other 56% only did it for publicity or don't spend much time there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (39g3+)

206 be sure to stay under your desk at all times.
Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:04 PM (aT+Bx)
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Oh no way, have YOU ever even looked under a desk? I'll take my chances with the NorKs

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (UmSfZ)

207 191 5. Be lectured you can't be upset because you have "white privilege" and you're a racist (by default).
Posted by: Lizzy
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6. vote for GOP to stop this shit only to watch them become open border treasonous democrats once in office.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:10 PM (AU4SY)

208 204 Rubio isn't really conservative. Or he's not conservative all the way around. He's squishy on immigration.

It is known.

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yah, but he'll say mean things about Castro when there aren't any democrats in the room to shame him

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:10 PM (AU4SY)

209 Is that "jeeze-us" or "hey-zeus?"

All I know is, he doesn't help anyone hit the curve ball.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:10 PM (39g3+)

210
It's in the Statute of Liberty clause!

Posted by: Jim Acosta at August 09, 2017 01:10 PM (OdK9v)

211 Poll after poll has shown that a solid majority of "Hispanics" oppose illegal immigration. This is true even of Mexican-Americans. (Whose neighborhoods and job prospects are most hurt by the illegals?)

When it comes to "Hispanic" legal immigrants, whether they are first or second generation, the opposition to illegal aliens is overwhelming.


It's certainly true among my Hispanic friends and acquaintances here. They jumped through all the hoops, and resent those who haven't. Cesar Chavez in particular opposed illegal immigration because it lowered farm workers' wages and made them more difficult to unionize.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:11 PM (SRKgf)

212 People up this way have largely come to distrust any Hispanic politicians because they throw everyone else under the bus for their compadres. Especially on immigration.

Not that anyone trusts a politician. But they are trusted less.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:11 PM (i17ZZ)

213 6. vote for GOP to stop this shit only to watch them become open border treasonous democrats once in office.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:10 PM (AU4SY)



The Turtle: I'd say, you have excessive expectations

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2017 01:11 PM (493sH)

214 What's that have to do with your misstatement he wanted to double Mexican visas? You have a legitimate argument. You don't have to misrepresent it.
Posted by: Jack Sock

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I love it when people accuse you of lying because they are too lazy to go Google it themselves

Here is the article from the New York Times regarding Cruz. Teddy Bear Cruz never denied any of this.

https://tinyurl.com/y8yhft5k

"Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

"The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship.

Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country."

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 01:11 PM (VDVsF)

215 204 Rubio isn't really conservative. Or he's not conservative all the way around. He's squishy on immigration.

It is known.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (3OIiX)


Were it not for the Gang of 8 stupidity, he had a better than even shot to be nominated.

But, he sold out. In fact, I understand from people in FL that he sold out almost as soon as he took the oath in 2010.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 01:11 PM (mbhDw)

216 I got a tiny house at home depot.

Its a garden shed.

You people are living in a place that's meant to store lawnmowers and rakes.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (C7nq+)

217 Okay I had a thought and thus must inflict it on the Horde also it's over 100 comments so neener on staying on topic.

I snarked on twitter about how Alphabet's shareholders should be interested to learn that Google's engineers don't know the difference between the aggregate and the individual.

It occurred to me today that Alphabet and Amazon and tech in general depends on the aggregate in order to make money. Writ large, what tech companies are selling is data. Sure, Amazon ships you physical stuff but even that stuff is based on using data to suggest what you want.

The individual data point exists only to be placed into a set. Those oh so individual recommendations and ads and the like? Yeah, it's just comparing your data point to that set and serving up the appropriate widget from the pool of widgets.

So tech thinking is utterly oriented to eliminating any individuality and putting everything in sets. Which is great for data and horrifying for human beings.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (mf5HN)

218 Chip off that stupid Emma Lazarus poem and replace it with WE'RE CLOSED!!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (Mouru)

219 He's saying any Hispanic politicians really loves them lots of Hispanic immigrants and will stab the natives in the back every time if given enough power.

I don't think its universal, but its far too common in which any non-white-guy politician will consider their group or clique far more than they will any ideology or principles. They will be conservative in everything... except when it comes to being a woman, or being black, or being hispanic, etc. There are exceptions -- some white guys are fixated on their group (Christian, big business, whatever) and some non white guys are consistent. Its just a pattern I've noticed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (39g3+)

220 Which is why I will probably vote for Kid Rock.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (aT+Bx)

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.....all summer long.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (8XRCm)

221 218 Chip off that stupid Emma Lazarus poem and replace it with WE'RE CLOSED!!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (Mouru)


.... & GET OFF OUR LAWN!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (mbhDw)

222 OT - 44% of tiny home buyers regret their decision. Here's my shocked face.

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At least another 30% are too embarrassed and too stubborn to admit to regretting their decision.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (nAp1e)

223 You must be THIS TALL to immigrate into the United States.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (RD7QR)

224 I am trying (and not very successfully) to update the AoSHQ Style Guide to include the following:

Those items you find in law books are called Statues.

Those things you find in the park, made of bronze or stone and the pigeons poop on them, those are called Statutes.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (TOk1P)

225 Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 12:58 PM (aT+Bx)

Ah, gotcha. I suppose some of the same dynamics may be at work though.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (0mRoj)

226 217. Yep. Standardization. Remember Six Sigma 101 - variation is the enemy.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (fA1SL)

227 Which is why I will probably vote for Kid Rock.



Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (aT+Bx)



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.....all summer long.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (8XRCm)
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Don't get .... Cocky

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (UmSfZ)

228 I love it when people accuse you of lying because they are too lazy to go Google it themselves ..

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In fairness, 'Googling' something is no guarantor of objective truth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2017 01:14 PM (OdK9v)

229 Idiots. Dirt-poor people in the South have been living in those things for 100 years. Do you think it's because they want a minimalist lifestyle? No. It's because it's all they can afford, and all they can afford is complete sh*t that is horrible to live in.

And you idiots are paying $100K for them.


"Sustainable" obviously means nothing to you, troglodyte.

*sniff*

Posted by: A Hipster Douchebag with a Man-Bun at August 09, 2017 01:14 PM (Mouru)

230 198 188. I regret not getting in on the ground floor of that scam.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:09 PM (fA1SL)

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Same here, but could you imagine someone asking you for seed money to start up a business selling half-length singlewides to hipsters for $100K a pop? You'd laugh them out of the restaurant they approached you in. Who would be stupid enough to buy a half a f*cking trailer when you could buy a Casita or Scamp camper for $10-$15K and take it anywhere?

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:14 PM (RwlMe)

231 How do we fix the attitude of American youths that blue collar trades are beneath them or whatever other reason causes them to avoid learning these trades?

It concerns me when companies can't find welders or carpenters or mechanics . I know in Texas you can rarely hire a tiler, sheetrocker, roofer, etc that's not of questionable legal status.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 01:15 PM (no/Pv)

232 218 Chip off that stupid Emma Lazarus poem and replace it with WE'RE CLOSED!!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (Mouru)



Yep, and I say again: put a moose out front saying that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:15 PM (SRKgf)

233 222
OT - 44% of tiny home buyers regret their decision. Here's my shocked face.



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At least another 30% are too embarrassed and too stubborn to admit to regretting their decision.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM (nAp1e)

The other 26% are in jail for murdering someone in their tiny house.

Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (Enq6K)

234 A guy here at work bought one of those tiny homes. It was built on a trailer and he towed it to a plot of land where his brother was building a cabin. It was an easy way to get him temporary living space while he worked on the main building.

I can't imagine living in one full time though, or trying to convince myself that it's fantastic to do so. Seems like it's virtue signaling to me.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (PFy0L)

235 I snarked on twitter about how Alphabet's shareholders should be interested to learn that Google's engineers don't know the difference between the aggregate and the individual.

Well, I don't think its so much the engineers as it is the other people working there. Check out this image:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycnhbe99

That's the kind of human detritus working at Google throwing a fit at the memo

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (39g3+)

236 girl out front with the torch could'a told ya, same as me. . .

Posted by: moose at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (KbEJv)

237 Were it not for the Gang of 8 stupidity, he had a better than even shot to be nominated.

But, he sold out. In fact, I understand from people in FL that he sold out almost as soon as he took the oath in 2010.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

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I definitely think it cost him the nomination.
Had he been able to rack up some early wins, Trump probably would have dropped out.

I guess our Republic was spared this time.

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (VDVsF)

238 Same here, but could you imagine someone asking you for seed money to start up a business selling half-length singlewides to hipsters for $100K a pop? You'd laugh them out of the restaurant they approached you in. Who would be stupid enough to buy a half a f*cking trailer when you could buy a Casita or Scamp camper for $10-$15K and take it anywhere?
Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:14 PM (RwlMe)



Uh ... the same people who are stupid enough to pay $5 for a cup of burnt coffee?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (SRKgf)

239 In fairness, 'Googling' something is no guarantor of objective truth.

Word!

Posted by: Wikipedia and Snopes at August 09, 2017 01:17 PM (vtcmf)

240 Idiots. Dirt-poor people in the South have been living in those things for 100 years. Do you think it's because they want a minimalist lifestyle? No. It's because it's all they can afford, and all they can afford is complete sh*t that is horrible to live in.


And you idiots are paying $100K for them.
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So... it's a Stupid Tax on liberals?

I'm OK with that.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:17 PM (aT+Bx)

241 Replace Lady Liberty with a giant moose.
Posted by: rickl
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Heh. *golf clap*

Though at first I read that as 'noose', which led me to imagine Lady Liberty holding up a noose, rather than a torch. I'm not sure that it isn't a good idea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2017 01:17 PM (OdK9v)

242 The other 26% are in jail for murdering someone in their tiny house.


Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (Enq6K)

And 100% of those prefer their tiny house to the big house.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (tbOMB)

243 Well, I don't think its so much the engineers as it is the other people working there. Check out this image:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycnhbe99

That's the kind of human detritus working at Google throwing a fit at the memo
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (39g3+)



Darwin is scratching his head, thinking "But I was so sure ..."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (SRKgf)

244 OT - 44% of tiny home buyers regret their decision. Here's my shocked face.



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At least another 30% are too embarrassed and too stubborn to admit to regretting their decision.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM


And the other 26% sound like Mary Cloggenstein.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (p+Wdc)

245 Were it not for the Gang of 8 stupidity, he had a better than even shot to be nominated.

But, he sold out. In fact, I understand from people in FL that he sold out almost as soon as he took the oath in 2010.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 01:11 PM (mbhDw)

Yep. He jumped on that faster than a suburban housewife on Paolo's dick.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (0mRoj)

246 Living in a Tiny home is good for the planet!

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (rmVvL)

247 I know in Texas you can rarely hire a tiler, sheetrocker, roofer, etc that's not of questionable legal status.

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Thats everywhere. Mrs Fixer jokes that you can tell when roofing season starts when the boomboxes start playing mariachi yakayaka music in the neighborhood.

When I started in construction, back in the stone age, there were mostly gringo rockers, tilers, roofers etc. Now they are almost all latinos.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (8XRCm)

248 Uh ... the same people who are stupid enough to pay $5 for a cup of burnt coffee?
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TBF

that burnt covfefe has like 5x the amount of caffeine as a reglr cup of coffee.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:19 PM (iSi9/)

249 140--- We should have a height requirement of five-foot for immigrants. That would get rid of Marco and about 90% of South America.
Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 12:55 PM (i17ZZ)
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It is comments like these (and many others I read) that make it sooooo easy for the Left to portray opposition to illegal immigration as nothing but 'racial' bigotry.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:19 PM (0jtPF)

250 How do we fix the attitude of American youths that blue collar trades are beneath them or whatever other reason causes them to avoid learning these trades?

Yeah Immigration is a really obvious problem, like a broken arm? But the cancer that's killing America is the attitude of dependence on government instead of the old can-do approach that built this nation. Instead of viewing problems as opportunities or challenges, people collapse and run away.

America was founded by people who left their nation to find a better life, no matter how tough it was going to be. The people who though that was too haaaaard or scary or couldn't imagine living in any hardship stayed behind and rotted Europe.

Now America is full of that kind of loser and chump. We need to go back to a culture that celebrates achievement, virtue, and work. A culture where people are taught from the cradle to attack problems and welcome hardship as a way to grow and be better, with parents as examples every step of the way. Without that, we're doomed to slouch into Paris and Oslo.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:19 PM (39g3+)

251 How do we fix the attitude of American youths that
blue collar trades are beneath them or whatever other reason causes them
to avoid learning these trades?
It concerns me when companies can't find welders or carpenters or
mechanics . I know in Texas you can rarely hire a tiler, sheetrocker,
roofer, etc that's not of questionable legal status. Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 01:15 PM (no/Pv)
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Anecdotal, I know, but son moved to WI and passed his journeyman test for carpentry. Youngest one they have had in many years. He couldn't find a sponsor for any trade (no connections) in IL. The ladies in the union office threw a party for him when he passed the test (thank goodness for a rigorous HS curriculum).

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 01:19 PM (MIKMs)

252 238 Same here, but could you imagine someone asking you for seed money to start up a business selling half-length singlewides to hipsters for $100K a pop? You'd laugh them out of the restaurant they approached you in. Who would be stupid enough to buy a half a f*cking trailer when you could buy a Casita or Scamp camper for $10-$15K and take it anywhere?
Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:14 PM (RwlMe)


Uh ... the same people who are stupid enough to pay $5 for a cup of burnt coffee?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (SRKgf)

It's not a cup, it's a venti. Shows what you know.

Posted by: Adolph Hipster at August 09, 2017 01:20 PM (7HtZB)

253 246 Living in a Tiny home is good for the planet!
Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (rmVvL)


"It ain't me, babe."

Robert B. Reichhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - uh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 01:20 PM (mbhDw)

254 >>>A guy here at work bought one of those tiny homes. It was built on a
trailer and he towed it to a plot of land where his brother was building
a cabin. It was an easy way to get him temporary living space while he
worked on the main building.
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Uh...

Posted by: Airstream Campers at August 09, 2017 01:20 PM (XoldI)

255 95 I thought my damn duplicate shot that hairy ass bird beak SOB. Can't rely on anyone anymore.

Posted by: The real Henderson James at August 09, 2017 01:20 PM (7A6l6)

256 At least another 30% are too embarrassed and too stubborn to admit to regretting their decision.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
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Behold, cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2017 01:20 PM (OdK9v)

257 You must be THIS TALL to immigrate into the United States.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM


Hey! That not funny round eye!

Posted by: Aspiring Roof Koreans at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (p+Wdc)

258 A guy here at work bought one of those tiny homes. It was built on a trailer and he towed it to a plot of land where his brother was building a cabin. It was an easy way to get him temporary living space while he worked on the main building.

I can't imagine living in one full time though, or trying to convince myself that it's fantastic to do so. Seems like it's virtue signaling to me.
Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (PFy0L)

Back when I was a single guy, I could have done it. Computer desk, tiny kitchen. Bathroom. Bed. That's all I need.

What I can't comprehend is the parents with like 4 children trying to move into 450 square feet and not foreseeing some sort of issues in 5 years when those kids start hitting puberty.

Posted by: Elon Musk at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (KUaJL)

259 Yeah, I don't see much demand unless these immigrants have a skill-set that will enable them to work on those $15/hour minimum wage robots.

Posted by: Fritz at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (eLttb)

260 Well, I don't think its so much the engineers as it is the other people working there. Check out this image:



http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycnhbe99



That's the kind of human detritus working at Google throwing a fit at the memo

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:16 PM (39g3+)

Every large organization goes through growing pains after growing too large or too fast, and it is usually an ingrained culture that sees them through it.

I am glad to know that this is google's culture.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (tbOMB)

261 Yeah Immigration is a really obvious problem, like a broken arm?
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Oh you are so cruel

*tears rolling down my cheeks*

Posted by: michele fields at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (MkSh+)

262 Living in a Tiny home is good for the planet!
--

UN Agenda 21.

Convince people to live like prisoners, and then contegrate them together in cities. They're easier to control that way.

Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (aT+Bx)

263 I propose a lottery system for regulating immigration. When you win the lottery, you're eligible for a green card.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (Mouru)

264 Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 01:11 PM (VDVsF)

Nobody accused you of lying . You said he proposed doubling the visas from Mexico. I said it wasn't specifically Mexico. I'm done with you.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 01:22 PM (no/Pv)

265 "For instance, the proponents of the 1965 revision of immigration law did
not predict the massive demographic change that their reforms would
initiate...."

It's more likely that they simply lied to the public about it.

Posted by: DavidW at August 09, 2017 01:22 PM (hAiC2)

266 It's not a cup, it's a venti. Shows what you know.
Posted by: Adolph Hipster at August 09, 2017 01:20 PM (7HtZB)



I am duly chastened. (hangs head)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:22 PM (SRKgf)

267 http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycnhbe99



That's the kind of human detritus working at Google throwing a fit at the memo

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The "Punch All the Nazis" guy was the most sane.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:22 PM (8XRCm)

268 257 You must be THIS TALL to immigrate into the United States.

Posted by: joncelli, Ray of Freakin' Sunshine at August 09, 2017 01:13 PM

Hey! That not funny round eye!
Posted by: Aspiring Roof Koreans at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (p+Wdc)

Good looks should be the biggest qualifier for immigration.

Posted by: josephistan at August 09, 2017 01:23 PM (7HtZB)

269 265 "For instance, the proponents of the 1965 revision of immigration law did
not predict the massive demographic change that their reforms would
initiate...."

It's more likely that they simply lied to the public about it.
Posted by: DavidW at August 09, 2017 01:22 PM (hAiC2)


They knew full well. In fact Daniel Patrick Moynihan tried sounding the alarm bells about it, as did James Schelsinger and others. And those two aren't exactly rock-ribbed conservatives.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2017 01:23 PM (mbhDw)

270 Thats everywhere. Mrs Fixer jokes that you can tell when roofing season starts when the boomboxes start playing mariachi yakayaka music in the neighborhood.

When I started in construction, back in the stone age, there were mostly gringo rockers, tilers, roofers etc. Now they are almost all latinos.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:18 PM (8XRCm)

Only the guy that bids the jobs is white.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 09, 2017 01:23 PM (Ri/rl)

271 how is there "market demand" when we still have a single citizen on welfare? when citizens are at full employment, and we still need labor, there is market demand, not until then

Marco's lies are just as stupid as the voters that returned this quisling to office

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (swEzU)

272 For instance, the proponents of the 1965 revision of immigration law did
not predict the massive demographic change that their reforms would
initiate....

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THE HELL I DIDNT!!!

That was the whole fucking point!!

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (8XRCm)

273 I am duly chastened. (hangs head)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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*hands Jay a mug of JFG coffee*

I made extra this morning.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (OdK9v)

274 Had he been able to rack up some early wins, Trump probably would have dropped out.

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Like all Jeb's early wins? Or Kasich's later wins?

Yuuuuuck.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (MIKMs)

275 264. And this, people, is why you DON'T let the Irish in.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (fA1SL)

276 Black Sunday just started on Movies!

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (rmVvL)

277 The "Punch All the Nazis" guy was the most sane.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:22 PM (8XRCm)



The gay Communist? Totally.

I do note that many of those mutants claim to be engineers, FWIW.

Of course, baristas now claim to be Hot Beverage Engineers, so there's that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:25 PM (SRKgf)

278 "For instance, the proponents of the 1965 revision of immigration law did not predict the massive demographic change that their reforms would initiate...."

This is nonsense. Kennedy et al knew what they were doing. The Democrats cannot thrive unless ignorance thrives as well, so they wanted the poor and the illiterate and the skill-less--perfect future wards of the state.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 09, 2017 01:25 PM (MZcWR)

279 Posted by: mustbequantum at August 09, 2017 01:19 PM (MIKMs)

Congratulations to your son. He is part of the solution.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 01:25 PM (no/Pv)

280 Nobody accused you of lying . You said he proposed doubling the visas from Mexico. I said it wasn't specifically Mexico. I'm done with you.
Posted by: Jack Sock

_____

It could actually be MORE than double since he wanted to remove ALL caps from Mexico.

So Cruz wanted to double the amount of total green cards issued currently. So let's say Mexico currently gets 30% of Green Cards, his plan could potentially allow Mexico to get 70% of green cards

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (VDVsF)

281 I've been looking at used pop-up campers. $1500-$2000 is pretty routine. $5000 will buy the Taj-Mahal.

What I'd really like is a Lowe's outbuilding that costs $100K, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (P39Wn)

282 Fucking fake fire alarm drills. Just walked 17 flights of stairs to stand outside in the heat.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (U76Nz)

283 *hands Jay a mug of JFG coffee*

I made extra this morning.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (OdK9v)



Thanks!

Wait - is this fair trade coffee? Does it have half soy half skim milk?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (SRKgf)

284 Movies! Is the channel btw,I'm not that excited...

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (rmVvL)

285 Only the guy that bids the jobs is white.
Posted by: CaliGirl at August 09, 2017 01:23 PM (Ri/rl)

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Most crews have one guy that is the designated Englaise speaker.

Not knocking those guys. Some of the hardest workers Ive ever met.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (8XRCm)

286 shit sock.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:27 PM (8XRCm)

287 Good money to be made in skilled trades right now. Union and Non-Union alike.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 09, 2017 01:27 PM (/LX46)

288 Let's try exporting politicians for a couple of years.

Posted by: DaveA at August 09, 2017 01:27 PM (FhXTo)

289 UN Agenda 21.

Convince people to live like prisoners, and then contegrate them together in cities. They're easier to control that way.


Posted by: shibumi at August 09, 2017 01:21 PM (aT+Bx)


Like THX1138.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2017 01:27 PM (aMlLZ)

290 Gee, and only a few short years ago he was a conservative rock star and likely flagbearer for the future.

To quote Mr. Plinkett: "Ohhhh...."

Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 09, 2017 01:28 PM (rznWS)

291 Trump has screwed everything up that Presdent Obama has accomplished. Remove Trump now and let's bring back Presdent Obama NOW !Q!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at August 09, 2017 01:28 PM (WmgTn)

292 It is comments like these (and many others I read) that make it sooooo easy for the Left to portray opposition to illegal immigration as nothing but 'racial' bigotry.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:19 PM (0jtPF)

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God help us all if the Left ever decides it's politically advantageous to portray conservatives as racists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:28 PM (P39Wn)

293 Most crews have one guy that is the designated Englaise speaker.

Not knocking those guys. Some of the hardest workers Ive ever met.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (8XRCm)

I had a table delivered yesterday, The driver spoke English, the helper didn't.

It's always like that.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 09, 2017 01:28 PM (Ri/rl)

294 Most crews have one guy that is the designated Englaise speaker.

Not knocking those guys. Some of the hardest workers Ive ever met.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (8XRCm)



And in fairness, besides being hard workers, they're also pretty cheerful and pleasant. They don't throw off the sullen vibe of some others.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:29 PM (SRKgf)

295 >>Uh...


Posted by: Airstream Campers



"No kidding."

-- Trailer Park resident who thinks re-branding them "tiny homes" is both silly and genius

Posted by: Lizzy at August 09, 2017 01:29 PM (NOIQH)

296 282 Fucking fake fire alarm drills. Just walked 17 flights of stairs to stand outside in the heat.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2017 01:26 PM (U76Nz)

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Bucket list: Rescuing female firefighter from burning building.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:29 PM (P39Wn)

297 Okay I had a thought and thus must inflict it on the Horde also it's over 100 comments so neener on staying on topic.

I snarked on twitter about how Alphabet's shareholders should be interested to learn that Google's engineers don't know the difference between the aggregate and the individual.

It occurred to me today that Alphabet and Amazon and tech in general depends on the aggregate in order to make money. Writ large, what tech companies are selling is data. Sure, Amazon ships you physical stuff but even that stuff is based on using data to suggest what you want.

The individual data point exists only to be placed into a set. Those oh so individual recommendations and ads and the like? Yeah, it's just comparing your data point to that set and serving up the appropriate widget from the pool of widgets.

So tech thinking is utterly oriented to eliminating any individuality and putting everything in sets. Which is great for data and horrifying for human beings.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (mf5HN)

Yup. That's why Amazon is willing to lose money to get you to sign up for Prime. They want to keep you in the Amazon ecosystem and gather all the info about what you buy and when and how much. The data drives them, it's one of their core competencies, as I recall.

But I will say, at least about Amazon, that most of this is focused in doing what is best for the Customer, who is an individual.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:29 PM (3OIiX)

298 @3: "I hate the Republican party more now than when I was a registered Dem."

That's ok, they hate you more now, too. They're just so frustrated with all of us mundanes who haven't embraced the Williamson doctrine yet.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 09, 2017 01:30 PM (rznWS)

299 http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycnhbe99

That's the kind of human detritus working at Google throwing a fit at the memo
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You couldn't make this stuff up. Even the Onion couldn't do that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2017 01:30 PM (OdK9v)

300 All I know is "Straight out the tiny home" don't rhyme for shit.

Posted by: Kid Rock at August 09, 2017 01:30 PM (/LX46)

301 they end up paying 5 or 6 hundred a month for the tiny house then have to pay an additional 5 hundred to put the damn thing somewhere ... so in the end they end up paying the same as an appartment

Posted by: E.T. at August 09, 2017 01:30 PM (P1GJy)

302 And in fairness, besides being hard workers, they're also pretty cheerful and pleasant. They don't throw off the sullen vibe of some others.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:29 PM (SRKgf)

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Yup, but..... pooping in empty drywall mud boxes must be a cultural thing.

Protip. NEVER dumpster dive a construction site. You were warned.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:31 PM (8XRCm)

303 Like THX1138.

I get the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_T70
Marco gets the shock rod.

Posted by: DaveA at August 09, 2017 01:31 PM (FhXTo)

304 It is comments like these (and many others I read) that make it sooooo easy for the Left to portray opposition to illegal immigration as nothing but 'racial' bigotry.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille

_______

We basically went along with that outlook for the last 30 years and opened the floodgates, with even Reagan giving Amnesty and we were still called bigots.

Democrats loved beating us over the head with that to sucker us into permanently changing the demographics of this country.

Posted by: Maritime at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (VDVsF)

305 wanted to remove ALL caps from Mexico.

Well ok... mexico. Feel better?

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (UmSfZ)

306 Yup, but..... pooping in empty drywall mud boxes must be a cultural thing.


You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (vtcmf)

307 Black Sunday just started on Movies!
Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2017 01:24 PM (rmVvL)

Good flick, Harris can write a thriller, that's for sure.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (3OIiX)

308 It is comments like these (and many others I read) that make it sooooo
easy for the Left to portray opposition to illegal immigration as
nothing but 'racial' bigotry.

---------------------------------------

Is it OK if it is inclusively directed against all races?

Posted by: RioBravo at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (SsblQ)

309 But I will say, at least about Amazon, that most of this is focused in doing what is best for the Customer, who is an individual.
==============
Amazon is your basic bait and switch scheme although its not fraudulent.

You get used to buying a thing on their site, its a good price, free shipping. after a while the price goes up and you don't notice. It keeps going up. You are in a habit and don't notice. Before you realize it you are paying a premium.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (sg4+x)

310 Rush must be reading AoSHQ. He was just talking about McConnell in December promising to begin the repeal of DeathCare on Day One and he said: "... and, get this, ..."

Posted by: ShainS at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (nNLzv)

311 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:29 PM (SRKgf)

Unfortunately the rare white guys I've come across at some of these semi skilled required jobs appear to be recently released cons or in between their meth manufacturing gig.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (no/Pv)

312 194
I think you're missing his point.

He's saying any Hispanic politicians really loves them lots of Hispanic immigrants and will stab the natives in the back every time if given enough power.

And frankly he's right. It's been obvious for a long time that they're very, VERY interested in their co-ethnics in a way that would cause meltdowns if Whites were doing it.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (4ErVI)
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No, I got his point --- and yours.
ANY 'Hispanic' politician. They are ALL slaves to identity politics and eager to stab "natives" in the back. Yep.

BTW---
- there are many 'Hispanics' that are natives, whose families go back generations
- 'Hispanic' is not a race. They may be black, Amerindian, Euro-white, or any combination thereof.
Marco Rubio is white. (Gasp!)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (0jtPF)

313 >>292
It is comments like these (and many others I read) that make it sooooo
easy for the Left to portray opposition to illegal immigration as
nothing but 'racial' bigotry.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:19 PM (0jtPF)

No kidding--that burns me up. And when I hear the Left whine about 'racial bigotry,' I get the anger-rash so hard that that whip comes down off the wall quick and some Aztec gets a frailin'. It's kind of a Lou Ford thing with me.

Posted by: Zod at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (Bdeb0)

314 If we threw out all the RINO's what would be left of the R party? Better that we get a RNC chief not controlled by the GOPe and start primarying these pricks.

Posted by: torabora at August 09, 2017 01:33 PM (6dFYM)

315 Yup, but..... pooping in empty drywall mud boxes must be a cultural thing.

Protip. NEVER dumpster dive a construction site. You were warned.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:31 PM (8XRCm)

This is really gross but when they finally put porta potties in the fields in the 70s, the crews were pooping behind it instead of inside. The crews were Filipinos.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 09, 2017 01:33 PM (Ri/rl)

316 305 wanted to remove ALL caps from Mexico.

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Just caps, or those sombreros with the little frilly bead decorations, too? Because those things are awesome and I'm pretty sure more than one person would fight you over that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Not Quite as Low-IQ as Michael Obama, But Not as Smart as Some Birds at August 09, 2017 01:33 PM (P39Wn)

317 It's not like hispanics are the only ones abusing the immigration laws. Go up to Rockland County NY. And take a look at what the Hasidics are doing. The minute you call them out you're anti Semitic. :-/

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:35 PM (i17ZZ)

318 217 So tech thinking is utterly oriented to eliminating any individuality and putting everything in sets. Which is great for data and horrifying for human beings.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 09, 2017 01:12 PM (mf5HN)

It seems to me that identity politics has been pretty much the exact same thing for decades. Reducing a person to a data point.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 09, 2017 01:35 PM (XMDuf)

319 the crews were pooping behind it instead of inside

It provided shade.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 09, 2017 01:35 PM (vtcmf)

320 You must be THIS TALL to immigrate into the United States.
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Somalis!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:35 PM (0jtPF)

321 Hey Mario:

.

.

whut dat mouf do?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2017 01:36 PM (hcyUh)

322 But I will say, at least about Amazon, that most of this is focused in doing what is best for the Customer, who is an individual.
==============
Amazon is your basic bait and switch scheme although its not fraudulent.

You get used to buying a thing on their site, its a good price, free shipping. after a while the price goes up and you don't notice. It keeps going up. You are in a habit and don't notice. Before you realize it you are paying a premium.
Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (sg4+x)

Eh. Partly agree.

I price check stuff a lot and Amazon usually (not always) has it cheaper. I don't see any price gouging by Amazon corporate.

But I've been on Prime for a long time. The price for Prime keeps going up, that's true. But it's still paying for itself in shipping savings and misc other stuff like movies and music.

It may not make sense for everyone but it works for me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:36 PM (3OIiX)

323 Every old is new again. Those tiny houses used to be known as cabins in Motor Courts. They kind of disappeared in the early 60s.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 01:36 PM (YV+SU)

324 It provided shade.


Posted by: Lena Dunham
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So do you.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:36 PM (xPDfB)

325 320. Lord, don't get me started on that topic.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:36 PM (fA1SL)

326

trump
trump
trump

deport
deport
deport


!!

Posted by: original jake at August 09, 2017 01:36 PM (QvI/V)

327 You must be THIS TALL to immigrate into the United States.

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Somalis!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:35 PM (0jtPF)_______

Hey, that reminds me, you never hear of pygmys anymore. Did they go extinct?

Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (UmSfZ)

328
Ummmm. You *really* dont think the free shipping in Amazon prime really FREE, do you??

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (8XRCm)

329 Hey, that reminds me, you never hear of pygmys anymore. Did they go extinct?
Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (UmSfZ)

Dude. AtC is here in the thread.

Posted by: Elon Musk at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (KUaJL)

330 @280

According to the latest immigration yearbook, Mexico gets 15pct of available green cards, the largest of any group.

By contrast Great Britain get 1.4pct of green cards and the other Anglospheric countries get half of 1 pct of green cards.

So basically our immigration system is used primarilly as mechanism to make the US poor and non-white.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (9A6UB)

331 Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:35 PM (i17ZZ)


Hasidics are immigrants?. From where?. I thought most of them were from the U.S. now and grew in large numbers because they have very big families?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (iVOAv)

332 He's saying any Hispanic politicians really loves them lots of Hispanic immigrants and will stab the natives in the back every time if given enough power.

And frankly he's right. It's been obvious for a long time that they're very, VERY interested in their co-ethnics in a way that would cause meltdowns if Whites were doing it.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (4ErVI)

Yup, I noticed that myself.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (aMlLZ)

333 312 BTW---
- there are many 'Hispanics' that are natives, whose families go back generations
- 'Hispanic' is not a race. They may be black, Amerindian, Euro-white, or any combination thereof.
Marco Rubio is white. (Gasp!)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:32 PM (0jtPF)

Sometimes, I think it's more about making a push for Spanish (dialects aside) to become the dominant language, locking people who can't speak it out from jobs.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 09, 2017 01:38 PM (XMDuf)

334 So basically our immigration system is used primarilly as mechanism to make the US poor and non-white
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AND import low wage workers

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:38 PM (hmQmF)

335 You must be THIS TALL to immigrate into the United States.

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Somalis!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2017 01:35 PM (0jtPF)_______

Hey, that reminds me, you never hear of pygmys anymore. Did they go extinct?
Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (UmSfZ)

Rebranded. Now they're Hobbits.

More seriously, there are a few tribes still in central Africa. They were never very populous.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:38 PM (3OIiX)

336 Hey, that reminds me, you never hear of pygmys anymore. Did they go extinct?

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No. They've specialized as short order cooks.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 09, 2017 01:39 PM (SsblQ)

337 VERY interested in their co-ethnics in a way that would cause meltdowns if Whites were doing it.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2017 01:08 PM (4ErVI)

Yup, I noticed that myself.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (aMlLZ)

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Translate "La Raza" to English.

Your welcome.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:39 PM (8XRCm)

338 God help us all if the Left ever decides it's politically advantageous to portray conservatives as racists.

*********

snort

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:39 PM (AU4SY)

339 Hey, that reminds me, you never hear of pygmys anymore. Did they go extinct?
Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (UmSfZ)

Dude. AtC is here in the thread.
Posted by: Elon Musk at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (KUaJL)



Watching. Always watching.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

340 No. They've specialized as short order cooks.
============
NYT columnists/former economists

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (oT1AO)

341 Hey, that reminds me, you never hear of pygmys anymore. Did they go extinct?
Posted by: IP at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (UmSfZ)

Dude. AtC is here in the thread.
Posted by: Elon Musk at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (KUaJL)

LOL

*grabs flame shield*

You're going to burn and bleed (and I might too) but that's funny, right there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (3OIiX)

342 I do note that many of those mutants claim to be engineers

Social engineering is technically a sort

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (39g3+)

343 334 So basically our immigration system is used primarilly as mechanism to make the US poor and non-white
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AND import low wage workers
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You are forgetting that both parties were concerned with the collapse of Northern Mexico and did the deed to help people. Same deal EU is doing with Syria, N. Africa and other shitholes.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (YV+SU)

344 LOL

*grabs flame shield*

You're going to burn and bleed (and I might too) but that's funny, right there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (3OIiX)

I had a good run.

Posted by: Elon Musk at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (KUaJL)

345

And in fairness, besides being hard workers, they're also pretty cheerful and pleasant. They don't throw off the sullen vibe of some others.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2017 01:29 PM (SRKgf)

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Yup, but..... pooping in empty drywall mud boxes must be a cultural thing.

Protip. NEVER dumpster dive a construction site. You were warned.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:31 PM (8XRCm)


how come those mejicans need to move to the USA to become hard workers?



Posted by: original jake at August 09, 2017 01:41 PM (QvI/V)

346 Watching. Always watching.
Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 09, 2017 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

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So..... things are always "looking up" for you.....no??

Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:41 PM (8XRCm)

347 "Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2017 01:37 PM (iVOAv)"

Nope. While there is some truth to that, there is a lot of chain migration and other immigration situations that are less than above board. You'll see it a lot in immigration courts up that way.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:41 PM (i17ZZ)

348 Off crazy billionaire sock

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 09, 2017 01:41 PM (KUaJL)

349 336. Sadly, a lot of them were genocided by their neighbors, and a good many are enslaved.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:41 PM (fA1SL)

350 So basically our immigration system is used primarilly as mechanism to make the US poor and non-white

***

if you listen to the left, you'll realize that america was evil when it was 90% white. And the only way to fix that is to make it 0% white.

what, zero percent too extreme? Then at what number is complete open borders and open welfare going to stop?

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:41 PM (AU4SY)

351
OT - Fox Business on MFM reaction to Gargle memo.

CNN - Firestorm at Google over anti-diversity memo. Just like we aren't pro-life but anti-choice. James Damore is anti-diversity comrades

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2017 01:42 PM (493sH)

352 351 what, zero percent too extreme? Then at what number is complete open borders and open welfare going to stop?
Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:41 PM (AU4SY)

Around the time that Arabic becomes the official language.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 09, 2017 01:42 PM (XMDuf)

353 Translate "La Raza" to English.

Your welcome.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 09, 2017 01:39 PM (8XRCm)

What are you talking about guero?

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 09, 2017 01:42 PM (Ri/rl)

354 You are forgetting that both parties were concerned with the collapse of Northern Mexico and did the deed to help people.

===============\
You forgot the sarcasm tag.

Pretty sure the EU doesn't have a "humane" concern either. Not to say that isn't what they claim.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:42 PM (xPDfB)

355 The attitudes of the majority of immigrants have changed completely from a hundred years ago. This is my main issue.

Then they wanted to become Americanized in general. Now they want to retain everything from the old country but still receive the benefits afforded to being in America. The Left have enabled this.

Again not all but I believe the majority.

Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 01:44 PM (no/Pv)

356 You know what this thread needs? A nice set of American tata's.

Posted by: Marcus T, Ready for War at August 09, 2017 01:44 PM (i17ZZ)

357 CNN - Firestorm at Google over anti-diversity memo. Just like we aren't pro-life but anti-choice. James Damore is anti-diversity comrades
=============
The memo is anti fascism.

Call it what you will CNN, we know you sell fake news.

Posted by: simplemind at August 09, 2017 01:44 PM (hmQmF)

358 As my Israeli born prof would say, back in the days of Clenis: 'it's the culture, stupid! You either have a nation, or you don't.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 09, 2017 01:44 PM (fA1SL)

359 "if you listen to the left, you'll realize that
america was evil when it was 90% white. And the only way to fix that is
to make it 0% white.



what, zero percent too extreme? Then at what number is complete open borders and open welfare going to stop?


Posted by: andrew jarbacka"

I think they are shooting for around 40%. Enough to pay the bills and provide hip, urban neighborhoods for the connected but not enough to win national elections, ever.

Posted by: Ripley at August 09, 2017 01:45 PM (MxEKc)

360 nood

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at August 09, 2017 01:45 PM (Mcvvl)

361 I think they are shooting for around 40%. Enough to pay the bills and provide hip, urban neighborhoods for the connected but not enough to win national elections, ever.

Posted by: Ripley at August 09, 2017 01:45 PM (MxEKc)



Yeah, that will work out well for them. Zimbabwe here we come

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2017 01:46 PM (493sH)

362 Well there are a few brands of open borders types.

Some are libertarians who think any rules or laws are like, fascist, maan.

Some are one worlders who want borders to disappear, thus eliminating racism and war! (no, really, they think that).

Some are well-meaning sorts who think we* should open our homes and country to all and any who are poor and needy.
*and by 'we' they mean 'people who don't live very close to me'

Some are calculating leftists who think that this means voters for their party, and they can gain power while shutting out those evil white people who won't vote for them.

Some are businessmen and farmers who want cheap labor at any cost.

Some are social engineers that want to change America's culture and demographics, destroying the past.

And of course, there are the folks who are buffet types, picking several of these to combine into a stew of misery, disease, crime, and failure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:48 PM (39g3+)

363 I think they are shooting for around 40%. Enough to pay the bills and provide hip, urban neighborhoods for the connected but not enough to win national elections, ever.


***

It's odd to think I'll go from being born as an 85% or so ethnic majority to a ethnic minority in my lifetime.

I'm sure our parents thought this out and this will all end well. There's probably historical precedent for this.

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:48 PM (AU4SY)

364 Every old is new again. Those tiny houses used to be known as cabins in Motor Courts. They kind of disappeared in the early 60s.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 09, 2017 01:36 PM (YV+SU)

I don't know, you got to be a fucking pod to live in one of those tiny 100 sq foot houses. You need to have zero interest in any hobby, occupation, or anything that requires storage of any kind. I couldn't even store my frigging stage gear in one of those things, never mind shit like tools, or any hobbies that require "stuff". I'll never understand that shit.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2017 01:49 PM (aMlLZ)

365
>>>You know what this thread needs? A nice set of American tata's.

http://tinyurl.com/ycrpq6n8

Posted by: Go Ahead, Click It at August 09, 2017 01:49 PM (XoldI)

366 "Yeah, that will work out well for them. Zimbabwe here we come


Posted by: TheQuietMan"

The white libs are going to be shocked and horrified to find their New Americans have a somewhat more aggressive demographic/power plan for the future. It does not include any white liberals.

Posted by: Ripley at August 09, 2017 01:50 PM (MxEKc)

367 You know what this thread needs? A nice set of American tata's.

http://tinyurl.com/ycrpq6n8
Posted by: Go Ahead, Click It at August 09, 2017 01:49 PM (XoldI)

Shame! Shame! Shame!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:51 PM (3OIiX)

368 312 My point isn't about race or ethnicity, it's about who supports wide open immigration, legal or illegal. The data is clear that hispanic or whatever you want to call them politicians have an almost unanimous record of support. I report, you decide. Some may be great on other issues, but they have a real soft spot on this.

Of course, if the races or cultures involved were inverted and the same laws applied, those other races and cultures would behave in the same self interested way. It's human nature, and predictable. Like gravitates to like, most of the time. Forced PC nazism isn't going to change human nature. We have to live with it while being nice to others.

The question at hand is how much immigration does our country need, and what should the parameters be? Trump's merit based system would be a tremendous improvement over the mayhem we have now.

Posted by: The real Henderson James at August 09, 2017 01:51 PM (7A6l6)

369 on one hand, dear native americans (from 1776 onward) get abortions, kids are for squares.

on other hand, dear immigrants "pop those fucking kids out, heeeere's welfare"

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 09, 2017 01:53 PM (AU4SY)

370 And of course, there are the folks who are buffet types, picking several of these to combine into a stew of misery, disease, crime, and failure.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2017 01:48 PM (39g3+)

Well said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 09, 2017 01:53 PM (3OIiX)

371 Late and I was willowed. I'm having a down day. At the end of my rope. I think I'll turn in for a nap. Fuck being disabled,worried,isolated. Life sucks.

Posted by: USNtakim at August 09, 2017 01:56 PM (zZWkn)

372 Don't worry. The arbiters at National Review soon will make the conservative case for open borders and national genocide.

Lil' Rubio either realizes he is at his apex due to the Peter Principle, or he thinks the CoC and K Street still can buy the presidency even though their relevance diminishes daily. What a lil' doofus.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 09, 2017 01:58 PM (6XFEQ)

373 Margarita DeVille, there may be many Hispanics whose family goes back "many" generation, but thanks to illegal immigration and certainly since Reagan's amnesty, there are 10x as many more who are here illegally or the offspring on illegals.

It's not everyone else's fault that there's a 90% chance that a Hispanic is illegal or related to illegals -- or for noticing that.

Posted by: sunny-dee at August 09, 2017 02:13 PM (DH0MB)

374 "Rubio thinks half a million is "an arbitrary" restriction."

Even if he were right it wouldn't help his case much; it could as easily be too high a figure as too low.

Posted by: Zapp Branigan at August 09, 2017 03:59 PM (FgFCM)

375 251 How do we fix the attitude of American youths that
blue collar trades are beneath them or whatever other reason causes them
to avoid learning these trades?
It concerns me when companies can't find welders or carpenters or
mechanics . I know in Texas you can rarely hire a tiler, sheetrocker,
roofer, etc that's not of questionable legal status. Posted by: Jack Sock at August 09, 2017 01:15 PM (no/Pv)
=====

Public schools are staffed by the college educated who often look down at sneering scorn to anyone who so much as changes their own oil in their car on weekends. This is a major source of your problem. The mission of public school is NOT to teach but is to get your kid to college where the REAL learning will begin. In the meantime (especially true for high school) your kids will be provided a GREAT social environment and will be encouraged to participate in as many athletics and extracurricular activities as possible!

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at August 09, 2017 07:16 PM (gHxi3)

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