Must-Read Piece About Fusion GPS

Lee Smith details the history of the firm.

Why work for a salaryman's wage when you can make a pile of money running a corporation funded by other well-heeled corporations, organizations, and even foreign governments?

Basically, some reporters realized that the model of news-researched-by-newspapers was over. So they opened a research/"comms" shop to research the news (or "news," or even #FakeNews) and just deliver it to friendlies, chiefly on the left, who have neither the institutional support nor the personal work ethic to do the work themselves.

Reporters know about Fusion GPS, Lee Smith says, but they don't mention them -- they don't mention them because they don't want to burn their sources. They want Fusion to deliver them scoops (or even "Scoops") that have been paid for by political/agenda-driven groups. They want to hide the hand that delivered them their stories, both for personal aggrandizement (they don't want to admit they're just pass-throughs for a privately funded opposition research group) and to make sure the free stories keep coming.

And Fusion GPS was working closely with Russia -- they were among the shops hired to get the Magnitsky Act overturned.

Reporters know this, obviously -- but how often do you ever see this mentioned in a story?

Why do you imagine that is? Why does someone hide from the public a fact that they know, if their entire job is (supposedly) to "report the truth"?

Here's Smith:

There is no accurate accounting of how many of the stories you read in the news are the fruit of opposition research, because no journalist wants to admit how many of their top "sources" are just information packagers--which is why the blinding success of Fusion GPS is the least-covered media story in America right now. There's plenty of oppo research on the right, but most of it comes from the left. That’s not because Republicans are more virtuous than Democrats and look for dirt less than their rivals do. Nor conversely is it because Republicans make a richer subject for opposition research because they're so much more corrupt. Nope, it’s simple arithmetic: Most journalists lean to the left, and so do the majority of career officials who staff the federal government. There are more sounding boards on the left, and more sources. It’s not ideological, it's business.
Thus, most of Fusion GPS's contracts seem to come from the left--except for its most famous project, the Russia dossier. Before it was passed on to the Democrats, it started on the right, when one Republican candidate--thought to be Jeb Bush but never confirmed--hired the outfit to amass damning material on Trump. From humble beginnings, it has taken on the shape of a modern-day legend....
The Trump-Russia story has frequently been likened to Watergate, a specious comparison since the latter started with evidence of a crime and the former with publication of an anthology of fables, pornography, and Russian-sourced disinformation put together and distributed by partisan political operatives. The salient comparison is rather in the effect--it has the same feel as Watergate. And it's taking up the same space as Watergate--and that's because comms shops-for-hire like Fusion GPS have assumed the role that the American press used to occupy.

Posted by: Ace at 05:07 PM

Comments

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1 They want Fusion to deliver them scoops (or even "Scoops") that have
been paid for by political/agenda-driven groups. They want to hide the
hand that delivered them their stories, both for personal aggrandizement
(they don't want to admit they're just pass-throughs for a privately
funded opposition research group) and to make sure the free stories keep
coming

Goebbels would be proud.

Posted by: pep at July 26, 2017 05:11 PM (LAe3v)

2 st?

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at July 26, 2017 05:11 PM (/aFKY)

3 Hopefully Bannon is telling Trump to adopt AB's phrase: "F*ck you. War."

Posted by: Jmel at July 26, 2017 05:11 PM (6TIWA)

4 it started on the right, when one Republican candidate--thought to be
Jeb Bush but never confirmed--hired the outfit to amass damning material
on Trump.

Types

Deletes

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2017 05:11 PM (PY9jH)

5 But don't you ever forget that it's all about the story, and in any case, they're smarter than you.

Posted by: pep at July 26, 2017 05:11 PM (LAe3v)

6 I think Trump is enjoying the fight.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 26, 2017 05:12 PM (wGbBR)

7 "thought to be Jeb Bush but never confirmed"

oh of course

Posted by: brak at July 26, 2017 05:12 PM (5iU/N)

8 Nice on the "salaryman", by the way.

Posted by: pep at July 26, 2017 05:12 PM (LAe3v)

9 Not enough rope on the mainland at the moment.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 26, 2017 05:12 PM (2qHjF)

10 And it looks to me like Fusion is a Democrat firm. Sessions is saying he is going to investigate Scankles now for colluding with Russia.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 26, 2017 05:13 PM (mpXpK)

11 "thought to be Jeb Bush but never confirmed"

Please clap.

Posted by: dantesed at July 26, 2017 05:13 PM (88xKn)

12 Follow the money. Ukraine wanted this stuff out there badly.

Posted by: Deacon Blues at July 26, 2017 05:13 PM (dZGNV)

13 I think the press should be honest and just stand out on the street corner in fishnet stockings and shorty shorts that don't come close to covering their asses.

Posted by: pep at July 26, 2017 05:14 PM (LAe3v)

14 Sharyl Attkinson is coming to town soon to discuss how news is crafted & edited to shape opinion - I wonder if she'll bring this up?

Posted by: josephistan at July 26, 2017 05:14 PM (7HtZB)

15 And it looks to me like Fusion is a Democrat firm.
Sessions is saying he is going to investigate Scankles now for colluding
with Russia.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 26, 2017 05:13 PM (mpXpK)

About damned time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2017 05:14 PM (PY9jH)

16
Fusion GPS.

What GPS stand for? Great Piss Scandal?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 26, 2017 05:14 PM (r5BDM)

17 Must read?

Kinda pushy.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 26, 2017 05:14 PM (4e+hS)

18 Top 20.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 26, 2017 05:14 PM (cEXjC)

19 I feel for Ukraine...and no that's not just because of the heavy hottie proportion. Hadn't heard that they were behind 'golden shower gate'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:14 PM (3OIiX)

20 The only correcting behavior on CNN's part was firing those three (and that one for more for legal reasons than any kind of accountability to the audience, or respect for the industry). They could have burned a dozen "anonymous sources", except that when the source is Fusion GPS or the dude in the mirror, it's a further embarrasment.

They have no shame. They lack the character to report for the Kansas City Democrat. Fck these people.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (rnAwa)

21 Oh and RICO Fusion GPS ASAP.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (3OIiX)

22 Endless Russian fantasy investigations never provided healthcare to anyone.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (nILVB)

23 At one time we used to have a free press in this country. FDR killed it in the 30s.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (mpXpK)

24 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 26, 2017 05:13 PM (mpXpK)

Related (Fox) :COLLUSION, TOO?
Lawmaker wants answers on alleged DNC-Ukraine bid to stop Trump

Posted by: Meremortal at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (3myMJ)

25 What GPS stand for? Great Piss Scandal?

Getting Paid for Scandals?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (IZPn8)

26 How is it that the dictionary definition of collusion has never been applied to Obama's hot mic whisper to the Russians that "he would be more flexible after the election".
How in the world is that not considered a worthy story for the press?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (mhIjm)

27 CvntFusion abounds

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (ifORZ)

28 Obama's collusion actually was treason. And nobody cared.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:17 PM (mhIjm)

29 19
I feel for Ukraine...and no that's not just because of the heavy hottie proportion.

Vy else do you sink ve infaded?

Posted by: Waffen SS at July 26, 2017 05:17 PM (LAe3v)

30 I lived through Watergate, and I can tell you this Trump Russian Collusion bullhockey is no Watergate!

Posted by: Sen. Lloyd Bentsen at July 26, 2017 05:17 PM (6FiMM)

31 Project much?

Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2017 05:17 PM (pPKG5)

32 31
Project much?

Posted by: Skip

Why yes, yes we do.

Posted by: Opera Singers International at July 26, 2017 05:18 PM (LAe3v)

33 Counter with 4chan leaks of their browser history. Fight dirty.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 26, 2017 05:18 PM (hyuyC)

34 @Pep

If the Nazi's hadn't been idiots, they could have augmented their invasion forces with a whole lotta Ukraians who did not like the glorious new Soviet system.

But Nazi's gotta Nazi...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:18 PM (3OIiX)

35 Fusion GPS have assumed the role that the American press used to occupy.

Working the glory holes along the interstates?

Posted by: Bruce at July 26, 2017 05:18 PM (8ikIW)

36 Trust in government???

Never been higher amirite?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 26, 2017 05:19 PM (aZNua)

37 Fusion GPS has a nice ring to it.
Ministry of Truth would be too obvious.

Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 26, 2017 05:19 PM (m9X4Y)

38 >>>
I think the press should be honest and just stand out on the street
corner in fishnet stockings and shorty shorts that don't come close to
covering their asses.<<<<

Don't forget the twerking.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 26, 2017 05:19 PM (x3uSY)

39
How many more of these entities exist?

How many funded by Soros?

Mr. Sessions, please wake up from nappy time and do your f-ing job.

That is all.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at July 26, 2017 05:19 PM (MCEs2)

40 Mukasey (W AG and Jeb go-to guy) major attorney for Prevezon (sp). So, yes, the Jeb link makes sense.

Posted by: Ever at July 26, 2017 05:19 PM (QZdJj)

41 34. There were plenty of them. Bandera's boys. And honored and revered by the Clinton-Soros junta in Kiev.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 26, 2017 05:20 PM (fA1SL)

42 I think the press should be honest and just stand out on the street
corner in fishnet stockings and shorty shorts that don't come close to
covering their asses.

Don't forget the twerking.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 26, 2017 05:19 PM (x3uSY)

Can I be in charge of who *has* to dress that way?
Because trust me, you'll be happy with me in that role.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:20 PM (3OIiX)

43 I think the press should be honest and just stand out on the street
corner in fishnet stockings and shorty shorts that don't come close to
covering their asses.

Don't forget the twerking.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July

the press got caught on snapchat earning a ride home in an uber car the other day.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 26, 2017 05:20 PM (0wem/)

44 Sessions is saying he is going to investigate Scankles now for colluding with Russia.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 26, 2017 05:13 PM (mpXpK)

I'll call that obvious bluff. Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: The Hells Angels at July 26, 2017 05:20 PM (i0ykY)

45 I think things are starting to get interesting.

All of the Left/MSM's hysteria about Russia Russia Russia is a desperate attempt to divert attention away from their own very real and very serious scandals. But I think more and more people are tuning them out.

Posted by: rickl at July 26, 2017 05:20 PM (xjiRE)

46 "7 "thought to be Jeb Bush but never confirmed"

oh of course
Posted by: brak"

Is Fusion the entity hired by Rick Wilson? There is a rumor that Wilson originally paid for the BS "dossier.'

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 26, 2017 05:21 PM (OD2ni)

47 Wolf Blitzer and Rachel Madcow. On a street corner. In fishnets and nothing else.

Let that sink in.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2017 05:21 PM (PY9jH)

48 Though such failed tests abound to the point of being beyond counting, that the obviously absurd "dossier" was ever taken seriously, for one minute, is an outstanding confirmation of the cretinization of the US, its electorate, institutions, etc.

And FFFFFFFS, let's put any "Clinton-Ukraine" investigation where it belongs - far down the list, just something to rub it in and make the rubble bounce when Hillary and dozens of her cabal are in prison or disgrace from all the plea bargains and convictions for serious actual crimes (Espionage Act, Public Records Act, etc.).

"Collusion" with a foreign power on electioneering is not a crime, nor is it important.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 26, 2017 05:22 PM (QDnY+)

49
How is it that the dictionary definition of collusion has never been applied to Obama's hot mic whisper to the Russians that "he would be more flexible after the election".How in the world is that not considered a worthy story for the press?
Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:15 PM (mhIjm)

According to leftist theory Obama was prezzy so totes okay it's foreign policy.Trump was not president yet so not totes okay

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 05:22 PM (lKyWE)

50 Id be willing to bet a dollar McStain paid for that oppo research and Yeb was stupid enough to buy into it.

Posted by: The Hells Angels at July 26, 2017 05:22 PM (i0ykY)

51 "Thus, most of Fusion GPS's contracts seem to come from the left--except for its most famous project, the Russia dossier. Before it was passed on to the Democrats, it started on the right,"

Is this true or just a convenient cover?

Where's the beef?

Posted by: wodun at July 26, 2017 05:22 PM (lFga6)

52 Saw yesterday some idiot thought it was a impeachment offensive if DT requested the AG to investigate Hillary.
So the person who is ultimately in charge of the US Attorney branch can't determine which way to direct their efforts.

Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2017 05:22 PM (pPKG5)

53 FML... sock OFF

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 26, 2017 05:23 PM (i0ykY)

54 Let that sink in.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2017 05:21 PM (PY9jH)

Ow!

Posted by: Meremortal at July 26, 2017 05:23 PM (3myMJ)

55 this just in!

corrupt news media is corrupt... film at 11!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 26, 2017 05:24 PM (ATMED)

56 I could see Wolf dressed as Dr Frank-n-Furter

Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2017 05:24 PM (pPKG5)

57 Why didn't we think of this shit?

Posted by: Pravda at July 26, 2017 05:24 PM (gbWkA)

58 >>>>>I could see Wolf dressed as Dr Frank-n-Furter<<<<<

Maddow as Columbia.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 26, 2017 05:26 PM (x3uSY)

59 Leaks from Hillary's new book says she blames Russia, Comey for her historic loss.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 26, 2017 05:26 PM (6Ll1u)

60 Here is a meme idea for 4chan. They could photoshop CNN and well known FNM faces with signs that say "will LIE for money"

Posted by: PaleRider at July 26, 2017 05:27 PM (eASYU)

61 We are no longer surprised.

Posted by: Strobe at July 26, 2017 05:27 PM (gbWkA)

62 Why didn't we think of this shit?

Posted by: Pravda at July 26, 2017 05:24 PM (gbWkA)

Because compared to this bunch of lickspittles Pravda had some professional integrity.And I'm only halfway kidding.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:28 PM (mhIjm)

63 "59 Leaks from Hillary's new book says she blames Russia, Comey for her historic loss."

Don't ask me about Hillary's leaks. I was always on cleanup duty. Yuck.

Posted by: Huma at July 26, 2017 05:28 PM (OD2ni)

64
Saw yesterday some idiot thought it was a impeachment offensive if DT requested the AG to investigate Hillary. So the person who is ultimately in charge of the US Attorney branch can't determine which way to direct their efforts.
Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2017 05:22 PM (pPKG5)

Especially since Trump ran on that from the get go. Cleaning up the DOJ and getting to the bottom of the Clinton scandal was a plank in the campaign platform.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 05:28 PM (lKyWE)

65 "Leaks from Hillary's new book says she blames Russia, Comey for her historic loss."

No coup plan?

Posted by: Meremortal at July 26, 2017 05:28 PM (3myMJ)

66 They're disinformation and propaganda agents for hire. Anything linked to them should immediately be dismissed as noncredible.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 26, 2017 05:28 PM (0mRoj)

67 Why didn't we think of this shit?

Posted by: Pravda at July 26, 2017 05:24 PM (gbWkA)

Because compared to this bunch of lickspittles Pravda had some professional integrity.And I'm only halfway kidding.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:28 PM (mhIjm)

And fear of constant murders if they didn't do what the Party told them and ONLY what the Party told them.

...but mostly the constant murders.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:29 PM (3OIiX)

68 Ha! Joe and Mika as Brad and Janet.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 26, 2017 05:29 PM (x3uSY)

69 "Leaks from Hillary's new book says she blames Russia, Comey for her historic loss."

Schmuck Schumer recently said that if you lose to a guy with only 40% approval, it's your fault.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 05:30 PM (+7/1f)

70 How the #FakeNews sausage gets made.
So:
FusionGPS = Tass
Fake Media = Pravda

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 26, 2017 05:30 PM (Mcvvl)

71 And fear of constant murders if they didn't do what the Party told them and ONLY what the Party told them.

...but mostly the constant murders.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:29 PM (3OIiX)

*cough* the Clintons *cough*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2017 05:30 PM (PY9jH)

72 I feel for Ukraine...and no that's not just because of the heavy hottie proportion.

Yeah, well while those hotties are certainly nice to look at from a distance, don't get too close.

When I worked for Halliburton, we used to get a regular number of these Russian/Ukrainian "interns" come through the place. Gorgeous to look at, to be sure. Until you looked into their eyes. Nobody ever went near them, not unless they had a good business reason for doing so.

What's that term Ace likes? "Mean Girls"? I think "Evil Girls" would have been more appropriate for those Russian gals. What can I say? You had to be there...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at July 26, 2017 05:30 PM (RxCVB)

73 Designate them as a hostile foreign intelligence service. Because essentially that's what they are.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at July 26, 2017 05:31 PM (CYHde)

74 And fear of constant murders if they didn't do what the Party told them and ONLY what the Party told them.

...but mostly the constant murders.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:29 PM (3OIiX)

Agreed. So what's our modern day media apparatchiks' excuse?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:31 PM (mhIjm)

75 g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 26, 2017 05:31 PM (KCxzN)

76 Agreed. So what's our modern day media apparatchiks' excuse?

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:31 PM (mhIjm)

Being excluded from the Popular Crowd.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2017 05:32 PM (PY9jH)

77 We'll get right on it.
LOL

Posted by: MSM at July 26, 2017 05:32 PM (vyHiq)

78 How the #FakeNews sausage gets made.
So:
FusionGPS = Tass
Fake Media = Pravda
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 26, 2017 05:30 PM (Mcvvl)

Yup, that seems to be the case. The brave "reporters" at places like CNN who we are supposed to fear for the safety of because they are being threatened or some other vague $*it don't even do actual reporting. Jake Tapper is basically an overpaid teleprompter reader.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 26, 2017 05:32 PM (PMt8D)

79 When I worked for Halliburton, we used to get a regular number of these Russian/Ukrainian "interns" come through the place. Gorgeous to look at, to be sure. Until you looked into their eyes. Nobody ever went near them, not unless they had a good business reason for doing so.

What's that term Ace likes? "Mean Girls"? I think "Evil Girls" would have been more appropriate for those Russian gals. What can I say? You had to be there...
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at July

well, when you live in America it is easy to forget that the rest of the world is a whole lot closer to the state of nature. You meet people from other countries that look like people you know but on the inside they are playing an entirely different game. Ruthless and for keeps.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 26, 2017 05:33 PM (0wem/)

80 So who did not know F GPS was just reboot of Media (doesn't) Matter. Journalism is just another arm of the progressive agenda. Priest, got them. Teachers, oh yeah. Government employees, fuk yeah!

They all hate you. No I mean it, really hate you. Your ethics, your hard work, your business, your mom & dad, your loving spouse, your above average children. They hate you, would not piss on you if you were on fire.

Posted by: Rhennigantx at July 26, 2017 05:33 PM (bmkS9)

81 59 Leaks from Hillary's new book says she blames Russia, Comey for her historic loss.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 26, 2017 05:26 PM (6Ll1u)

____

I thought it was racism and sexism.

Posted by: #neverskankles at July 26, 2017 05:33 PM (vyHiq)

82 "Until you looked into their eyes."

lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 05:34 PM (+7/1f)

83 Well, Fusion GPS is done because they have been exposed. The trick is to identify and track their employees so they cannot go out and start up another iteration. They are like acorn, they rebrand and start over.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 26, 2017 05:34 PM (0wem/)

84 Being excluded from the Popular Crowd.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 26, 2017 05:32 PM (PY9jH)

Sadly, I think you're right Jane. The whole country is being turned into a twisted version/caricature of high school.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:34 PM (mhIjm)

85 I think the PissDossier came from Romney's crew, personally. Jeb' s just not that smart. Romney on the other hand had run a brilliant negative campaign... against the 2012 Republican field.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 26, 2017 05:34 PM (eI2Gj)

86 To get to be like Watergate then the CIA, the Dems, and a ring of hookers will have to be neck deep in the doo-doo with lots to hide.

Okay, all we need now are the hookers, or will the presstitutes be subbing for them?

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 26, 2017 05:35 PM (d3wbb)

87 Can you blame the Russian/Ukranian women? Life in that part of the world is tough. 70 years of communism isn't fixed overnight. And it's not like Russia started out rich pre-1917.

Posted by: #neverskankles at July 26, 2017 05:35 PM (vyHiq)

88 This is my shocked face ( 0 . 0 ) The media is corupt... You don't say!

Posted by: USNtakim at July 26, 2017 05:35 PM (zZWkn)

89
I think the PissDossier came from Romney's crew, personally. Jeb' s just
not that smart. Romney on the other hand had run a brilliant negative
campaign... against the 2012 Republican field. Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 26, 2017 05:34 PM (eI2Gj)
=====

McMuffin.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 26, 2017 05:36 PM (MIKMs)

90 70>

My sausage has neither of these ingredients.

Should I be concerned?

signed; Borscht

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at July 26, 2017 05:36 PM (MCEs2)

91 ""Mean Girls"? I think "Evil Girls" "

Like the Bad Bond Girl who dies in the third reel.

Ran a Hostel or II in the old country, IYKWIM

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 05:36 PM (+7/1f)

92 Yet. More. Anonymous. Sources.

In this case, I'm going to assume the sources are the members of Fusion GPS (which is a stupid, stupid name) themselves.

I want to repeat that Our Betters bought the Golden Showers dossier, both literally and figuratively. Something that is risible on its face was trotted by McCain to the FBI and pushed by the Never Trumpers on twitter and on and on and on. Because they believed a transparent tissue of lies.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 05:36 PM (dEQP3)

93 you blame the Russian/Ukranian women? Life in that part of the world is tough. 70 years of communism isn't fixed overnight. And it's not like Russia started out rich pre-1917.
Posted by: #neverskankles at July

not so much about blame as it is knowing what you are getting into.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 26, 2017 05:37 PM (0wem/)

94 Projection

all the way down

Posted by: simplemind at July 26, 2017 05:38 PM (oqcSx)

95 ...Something that is risible on its face was trotted by McCain to the FBI
and pushed by the Never Trumpers on twitter and on and on and on.
Because they believed a transparent tissue of lies.

Never, ever forget McCain's role in this.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:38 PM (mhIjm)

96 "Romney on the other hand had run a brilliant negative campaign... against the 2012 Republican field."

Then after Mitt had ruthlessly burned everyone else in the GOP to the ground and secured the nomination, he found out that the Obama oppo team had discovered his other carefully hidden wives and children.

It's hard to come up with any other explanation that fits how the guy's campaigning style and demeanor changed so suddenly.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 26, 2017 05:38 PM (ujwCG)

97 Like McCain's said: A centipede with a lot more shoes to drop.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 05:39 PM (+7/1f)

98 If you read accounts by former Pravda/Izvestia people, they will claim that the majority of 'journalists' didn't particularly mind writing to the narrative, so to speak. They might not believe the particulars but they still generally supported the glorious USSR in its struggle against all real or imagined enemies.

It was only a small minority that hated it.
They were afraid to quit because, hey, it was a great job. Why would you be quitting, hmmmmm? You aren't planning to become a dissident writing for the samizdat, are you? Hmmmmmm?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 26, 2017 05:39 PM (0jtPF)

99 They knew the piss dossier was bullshit.

Posted by: davidt at July 26, 2017 05:40 PM (XoldI)

100 Ha! Joe and Mika as Brad and Janet.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 26, 2017 05:29 PM

If only we were amongst friends... or even sane persons!

Posted by: Janet Weiss at July 26, 2017 05:40 PM (ctuyM)

101 I'll never put on a life jacket again.

Posted by: Strobe at July 26, 2017 05:40 PM (gbWkA)

102 45 I think things are starting to get interesting.

All of the Left/MSM's hysteria about Russia Russia Russia is a desperate attempt to divert attention away from their own very real and very serious scandals. But I think more and more people are tuning them out.
Posted by: rickl at July 26, 2017 05:20 PM (xjiRE)

....

Right.

It will be a thing of sublime and eternal beauty if the end result of the media's unrelenting focus on RRR is that it eventually led to the exposure of Fusion GPS and the actual collusion between them, Russian, Democrats, and the MSM.

It will be the overplayed hand of our times.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 26, 2017 05:40 PM (yL25O)

103 "I think the PissDossier came from Romney's crew, personally. Jeb' s just
not that smart. Romney on the other hand had run a brilliant negative
campaign... against the 2012 Republican field. Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 26, 2017 05:34 PM (eI2Gj)
=====

McMuffin.
Posted by: mustbequantum"

If McMuffin, that means Rick Wilson was involved as I asked about upthread.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 26, 2017 05:40 PM (OD2ni)

104
I want to repeat that Our Betters bought the
Golden Showers dossier, both literally and figuratively. Something that
is risible on its face was trotted by McCain to the FBI and pushed by
the Never Trumpers on twitter and on and on and on. Because they
believed a transparent tissue of lies. Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 05:36 PM (dEQP3)
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We were just talking about 'Mean Girls' -- and I swear some of the old fools in DC pass around insider spy pron and gossip and giggle.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 26, 2017 05:41 PM (MIKMs)

105 watergate and this russian/trump scandal are opposites in this respect: watergate took a long time to enter the national consciousness, even when congressional panels were set up; it ended with a bang with nixon's resignation. this "scandal" opened with a broad reportage and condemnation, continuous rather than incremental exposure; it may well end in a simper in dribs and drabs dot dot dot . . .

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (WTSFk)

106 "They knew the piss dossier was bullshit."

It was bad bullshit. Written from the perspective of someone who thought Trump was a caricature of a clown.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (+7/1f)

107 If McMuffin, that means Rick Wilson was involved as I asked about upthread.
Posted by: Benji Carver at July 26, 2017 05:40 PM (OD2ni)

The Rick Wilson kept yammering for yonks and yonks about how there was something out there that all the press had seen and someone needed to be brave enough to put it out there and It Will Change Everything.

It was the dossier.

It is my firm opinion that he believed every word of it was true.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (dEQP3)

108
...Something that is risible on its face was trotted by McCain to the FBI and pushed by the Never Trumpers on twitter and on and on and on. Because they believed a transparent tissue of lies.

I think what people forget about the pee party is that the plot line behind the story was that Trump hated Obama so much that he had the party in the same room the Obama's had stayed in and he wanted to defile the bed they slept on.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (lKyWE)

109 Was Fusion GPS registered iaw FARA?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (P/kVC)

110 A joyous natal anniversary, AtC! May your pterodactyl cloning experiments bear fruition.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (ctuyM)

111 wimper not simper, but either will do.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (WTSFk)

112 You can't use the letters GPS. I'm suing you!

Posted by: Fareed Zakaria at July 26, 2017 05:43 PM (IqV8l)

113 well, when you live in America it is easy to forget that the rest of the world is a whole lot closer to the state of nature. You meet people from other countries that look like people you know but on the inside they are playing an entirely different game. Ruthless and for keeps.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 26, 2017 05:33 PM (0wem/)

That was rather my take as well. But it was also clear they were not in the least interested in casual chitchat or anything of the sort. Their entire demeanor fairly screamed "keep your fucking distance". And everyone did.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at July 26, 2017 05:47 PM (RxCVB)

114 Thank you, Duncan.

I think what people forget about the pee party is that the plot line behind the story was that Trump hated Obama so much that he had the party in the same room the Obama's had stayed in and he wanted to defile the bed they slept on.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (lKyWE)

Yup. Which leads to the question that what are all of them doing that makes them think this is even within the realm of reason and not oh come on, stop lifting stuff off of fanfiction.net.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 05:47 PM (dEQP3)

115 I feel for Ukraine...and no that's not just because of the heavy hottie proportion.

Yeah, well while those hotties are certainly nice to look at from a distance, don't get too close.

When I worked for Halliburton, we used to get a regular number of these Russian/Ukrainian "interns" come through the place. Gorgeous to look at, to be sure. Until you looked into their eyes. Nobody ever went near them, not unless they had a good business reason for doing so.

What's that term Ace likes? "Mean Girls"? I think "Evil Girls" would have been more appropriate for those Russian gals. What can I say? You had to be there...
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at July 26, 2017 05:30 PM (RxCVB)

I hear ya. I knew and 'knew' a couple of Ukranian girls. One was as sweet as honey and milk, blonde, incredible skin and body. But all about the money, all the time. Always had a hand out. Expensive to know.

The other was even prettier but was hard all over. A rocket in the sack, though.

I miss them both. I'd be broke now if I'd kept up with either.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:47 PM (3OIiX)

116 ... a lot of today's journalists were inspired by that movie "all the president's men". they want a watergate, to play woodward & bernstein and drive a republican from office. it's their raisin detra.

but the drama of that role comes exclusively from the movie, not the reality of the actual watergate history.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 26, 2017 05:48 PM (WTSFk)

117 Thank you, Duncan.

I think what people forget about the pee party is that the plot line behind the story was that Trump hated Obama so much that he had the party in the same room the Obama's had stayed in and he wanted to defile the bed they slept on.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (lKyWE)

Yup. Which leads to the question that what are all of them doing that makes them think this is even within the realm of reason and not oh come on, stop lifting stuff off of fanfiction.net.
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 05:47 PM (dEQP3)

Eh, it's just a smear. Even they knew it was too dumb and unlikely to be true. They just wanted the Trump to deny it publicly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:48 PM (3OIiX)

118 PDT has managed to make the MFM irrelevant. If only the GOP would catch on.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 26, 2017 05:49 PM (mcI77)

119 What makes me angry is not necessarily the lawlessness the entire Democrat apparatus and the collusion with their partners and apparatchicks in the MSM but the acceptance and innability of the GOP to make hay with any of this absurd lawlessness and corruption.

The GOP is a garbage political party and practically worthless.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 26, 2017 05:50 PM (9A6UB)

120 When people like these fusionistas are allowed this much power the country can't be far from the end.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2017 05:50 PM (zLDYs)

121 I once explained to my teenage son, who knew about Watergate and Nixon's resignation, the critical role played by Deep Throat Mark Felt, who orchestrated Nixon's downfall out of personal pique and to protect the prerogatives of the FBI after Nixon bypassed Felt to succeed J Edgar Hoover as FBI director and instead appointed an outsider. Woodward and Bernstein were Felt's catspaws.

My son had difficulty believing such an outlandish story.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 05:51 PM (+7/1f)

122 if we had an honest fact-based press, the nation,s political fight would be Right v. Center right instead of center left v. Islamo-communism like it is now.

Posted by: kallisto at July 26, 2017 05:52 PM (n6gcM)

123 When people like these fusionistas are allowed this much power the country can't be far from the end.
Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2017 05:50 PM (zLDYs)

Fusionistas....I dig it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:53 PM (3OIiX)

124 Sharyl Attkinson is coming to town soon to discuss how news is crafted & edited to shape opinion - I wonder if she'll bring this up?
Posted by: josephistan

----

Just one important point, here.

Her name is "Attkisson."

She's too wonderful to have her name constantly misspelled and mispronounced.

If we love her, we should be getting it right!

Posted by: RKae at July 26, 2017 05:53 PM (1+wf2)

125 It's a shame that there is no controlling legal authority for such things. Oh well.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 05:53 PM (psH+N)

126 "It was bad bullshit. Written from the perspective of someone who thought Trump was a caricature of a clown."

Very stupid of them to take PDT at face value. Behind that public face is highly intelligent and, I would have to say, a very calculating (not in a bad way) person. It benefits him to have his detractors believe he is that clown. Still, it funny that we don't see him that way.

Posted by: Tuna at July 26, 2017 05:54 PM (jm1YL)

127 "They just wanted the Trump to deny it publicly."

Like LBJ setting an opponent to have to deny that he was a pig fucker.

But Comey brought it to Trump, so that Comey could leak that government officials had brought a personal scandal to Trump's attention

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 05:54 PM (+7/1f)

128 So the Comm Shops are apolitical mercenary outfits contracted by dark pool customers. I am now 150% more cynical than I was just fifteen minutes ago.

Oh, and eff John McCain

Posted by: 13times at July 26, 2017 05:55 PM (WHVu+)

129 You can't use the letters GPS. I'm suing you!

Fuck you

signed
Garmin

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at July 26, 2017 05:55 PM (MCEs2)

130 83 Well, Fusion GPS is done because they have been exposed. The trick is to identify and track their employees so they cannot go out and start up another iteration. They are like acorn, they rebrand and start over.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 26, 2017 05:34 PM (0wem/)

++++

Too late/

The founders of Fusion GPS cut their research teeth in investigative journalism for prominent American and British publications.

A Vanity Fair story on the Christopher Steele dossier reports that Fusion GPS was founded by Glenn Simpson, a former investigative reporter with The Wall Street Journal known for his "tenacity, meticulousness, cynicism... obsession with operational secrecy."

The article reports that Simpson left journalism after nearly "14 years doing political and financial investigations" at the Journal and, in 2011, "along with two other former Journal reporters, launched Fusion GPS, in Washington, D.C."

Simpson also started a company called SNS Global with Journal colleague Sue Schmidt, a Pulitzer Prize winner for her Washington Post stories into Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff, according to The Hill.

http://tinyurl.com/yas2cb5r

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 26, 2017 05:56 PM (FUu/Z)

131
I think what fakenews is managing to do is make the most powerful man in the world look like the little guy being bullied

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 05:56 PM (lKyWE)

132 Which also explains why you never see stories on the Paki IT, the unmaskings, the Clinton Foundtion, et al. They aren't having the stories fed to them by left-funded, left-led, left "news" "firms."

Posted by: dagny at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (wZuWv)

133 The Trump dossier was so fucking retarded. People paid money for that? I assume it was written by a stoned 14 year old boy.

Posted by: Max Power at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (q177U)

134 OT. I just found out that Boston MacDonalds sell lobster rolls. I feelz like this is painfully unfair that they don't sell them here.

Imma gonna hold a protest. And a twitter campaign and a boycott.

No lobster?
No peace!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (GzDYP)

135 I give up on political institutions. From now on, my party is the party of the Congress of the States.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (LISuA)

136 So...I guess this is why Simpson would plead the 5th, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (NOIQH)

137 I think Mark Felt in a way started this shit. The original Deep State mole taught them they have the power to bring down a President.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (ul9CR)

138 "think what fakenews is managing to do is make the most powerful man in the world look like the little guy being bullied"

What the fake news is doing is finally showing themselves to be the depraved nut jobs they really are.

Posted by: Tuna at July 26, 2017 05:59 PM (jm1YL)

139
I just found out that Boston MacDonalds sell lobster rolls.

Is it real lobster or just mock lobster?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2017 05:59 PM (IqV8l)

140 It wasn't a mock, it was a mock lobster!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 26, 2017 05:59 PM (ul9CR)

141 I'd love to see the pictogram (pictographs?) for the McDonald's workers to press for the lobster meal deal.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 05:59 PM (psH+N)

142 133 The Trump dossier was so fucking retarded. People paid money for that? I assume it was written by a stoned 14 year old boy.

Posted by: Max Power at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (q177U)

++++

A British intelligence agent.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 26, 2017 05:59 PM (FUu/Z)

143 THEY'RE GODDAMN HEROES IS WHAT THEY ARE, BIGOTS!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 26, 2017 06:00 PM (4ErVI)

144 I always sing it when I'm using lock washers.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:00 PM (psH+N)

145 "7 I think Mark Felt in a way started this shit. The original Deep State mole taught them they have the power to bring down a President."

Oh I'm sure they're salivating at the prospect but PDT is not Nixon.

Posted by: Tuna at July 26, 2017 06:00 PM (jm1YL)

146 "A British intelligence agent." / "a stoned 14 year old boy."

Austin Powers! Groovy baby! That's not mine!

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 06:01 PM (+7/1f)

147 Dance with me.

Posted by: Sean Spicer at July 26, 2017 06:01 PM (mcI77)

148
Eh, it's just a smear. Even they knew it was too dumb and unlikely to be true. They just wanted the Trump to deny it publicly.Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:48 PM (3OIiX)

It wasn't just a smear. They used it to get wire taps and unmaskings.

Oh, and Jeb needs to get out.

Posted by: dagny at July 26, 2017 06:01 PM (wZuWv)

149 "142 133 The Trump dossier was so fucking retarded. People paid money for that? I assume it was written by a stoned 14 year old boy.

Posted by: Max Power at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (q177U)

++++

A British intelligence agent."

In today's England they are roughly equivalent.

Posted by: Tuna at July 26, 2017 06:01 PM (jm1YL)

150 the acceptance and innability of the GOP to make hay with any of this absurd lawlessness and corruption.

The GOP is a garbage political party and practically worthless.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 26, 2017 05:50 PM (9A6UB)

They're all a bunch of really slow infants about whom parents keep waiting in vain for the light to come on.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 26, 2017 06:02 PM (y7DUB)

151
British intelligence agent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 26, 2017 05:59 PM (FUu/Z)

Who in all likelihood still has ties to the British government which means they were colluding with a foreign power to tamper with the American election

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 06:02 PM (lKyWE)

152 137 I think Mark Felt in a way started this shit. The original Deep State mole taught them they have the power to bring down a President.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (ul9CR)

++++

Hoover was no Boy Scout. He didn't take down presidents because they knew better than to cross him.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 26, 2017 06:03 PM (FUu/Z)

153
THEY'RE GODDAMN HEROES IS WHAT THEY ARE, BIGOTS!
=====

Toiling in obscurity, not even known in death, and only brave reporters can tell the story of the spies for freedom and their tireless work around the globe and in the US to bring peace and stability to all peoples. /s

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 26, 2017 06:03 PM (MIKMs)

154 Friends don't let friends eat McDonald's mock lobster.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2017 06:03 PM (/tuJf)

155 Is it real lobster or just mock lobster?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2017 05:59 PM (IqV8l)

I don't know. Hubs just sent me a pic of an ad, but it's $8.99, so it better be real.

I don't know if he's brave enough to try it!

Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 26, 2017 06:03 PM (GzDYP)

156 "And it looks to me like Fusion is a Democrat firm. Sessions is saying he is going to investigate Scankles now for colluding with Russia."

Please, no! My dick hasn't been flaccid since early November.

Posted by: Afroman at July 26, 2017 06:04 PM (XV6bd)

157 "The Trump dossier was so fucking retarded. People paid money for that? I assume it was written by a stoned 14 year old boy."

There are in fact some 4chan /pol pranksters who claim that they originally wrote the section of the document about peeing Potemkin prostitutes as a joke.

Then it got forwarded and ended up being taken seriously.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 26, 2017 06:04 PM (ujwCG)

158 133 The Trump dossier was so fucking retarded. People paid money for that? I assume it was written by a stoned 14 year old boy.
Posted by: Max Power at July 26, 2017 05:57 PM (q177U)

Ever had the misfortune to know Russians? That's fairly normal thinking for them. They couldn't ask directions to the restroom without 20 dirty words.

Posted by: dagny at July 26, 2017 06:04 PM (wZuWv)

159 When people like these fusionistas are allowed this much power the country can't be far from the end.
Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2017 05:50 PM (zLDYs)

And they'll be back in charge again eventually.

Thus, the inevitable end.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 26, 2017 06:04 PM (cEXjC)

160 134 OT. I just found out that Boston MacDonalds sell lobster rolls. I feelz like this is painfully unfair that they don't sell them here.

According to Fox ampersand Friends this morning, McDonalds is branching out to delivery. Maybe on of the Boston McDonalds will send you some.

Posted by: Anachronda at July 26, 2017 06:05 PM (v3pYe)

161 I would order the mock lobster for the same reason I'd get the lime and chili ice cream in wherever I traveled that might think lime and chili ice cream was somehow a good idea.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:05 PM (psH+N)

162 McLobster.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:06 PM (psH+N)

163 154 Friends don't let friends eat McDonald's mock lobster.

Mock lobster!

Posted by: The B-52s at July 26, 2017 06:06 PM (v3pYe)

164 They're all a bunch of really slow infants about whom parents keep waiting in vain for the light to come on.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 26, 2017 06:02 PM (y7DUB)

I would like to take this moment to tell you people how much I love you. That brought tears to my eyes.

And from my daughter; #NotMyDinner

Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 26, 2017 06:07 PM (GzDYP)

165
I'd get the lime and chili ice cream in wherever I traveled that might think lime and chili ice cream was somehow a good idea.
Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:05 PM (psH+N)

Better than carrot and chili ice cream

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 06:07 PM (lKyWE)

166 158. Not just Russians - most Slavs are pretty salty speakers.

I recall the Bosnian Serb party leader on trial at the Hague. In his opening statement to the tribunal, he told them to line up and fellate him, and in closing indicated he would fvck all their mothers, beginning with the presiding judge and working down the list from there.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 26, 2017 06:08 PM (fA1SL)

167 Mock Lobster!

*bops all around*

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 06:08 PM (dEQP3)

168 This is so fucking retarded that I actually feel enlightened when I browse /pol before I go to bed. This shit is fucking rage stroke inducing because it is so retarded and amateurish on its face that you want to beat it black and blue.

Trump should troll this faggits by placing an order for 5,000 helicopters to be built by 2018.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 26, 2017 06:09 PM (2qHjF)

169 What type of bops?

Posted by: Joey Ramone at July 26, 2017 06:09 PM (psH+N)

170 Many years ago spent time on Prince Edward Island. They served lobster roll. Real lobster. Of course that was 30 years ago.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 26, 2017 06:09 PM (N3JsI)

171 This is what it feels like to be on offense against the media. I feel it's trump and his people helping to uncover and expose this stuff.

This would not be getting dug out and exposed under a Romney or Bush admin. We would keep playing the old Lucy game senseing the other side was playing dirtyball while our leaders failed to assist us.

Posted by: Shiggz at July 26, 2017 06:10 PM (dKM7H)

172 What type of bops?
Posted by: Joey Ramone at July 26, 2017 06:09 PM (psH+N)

She bob?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:10 PM (3OIiX)

173 ROCK lobster! There, I said it.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2017 06:10 PM (zLDYs)

174 errr...

She bop?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:10 PM (3OIiX)

175
She bob?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:10 PM (3OIiX)

To be fair, that is one of my favorite hobbies.

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 06:11 PM (dEQP3)

176 I don't want to go down in the basement. The socks are down there.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:11 PM (psH+N)

177 I bop. You bop, and they bop.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:11 PM (3OIiX)

178 Gwar do

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:11 PM (psH+N)

179 Darn phone.

Gwar does a great cover of She Bop.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:12 PM (psH+N)

180 It's actually mock rock lobster

Posted by: B52's at July 26, 2017 06:12 PM (nWc4E)

181 I thought old Toomer Head was involved in the Fusion GPS nonsense up to his diaper.

I didn't know until today that it was Jeb! all along.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 26, 2017 06:12 PM (5VlCp)

182 Darn phone.

Gwar does a great cover of She Bop.
Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:12 PM (psH+N)

LOL, I gotta check that out.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:12 PM (3OIiX)

183 >>Many years ago spent time on Prince Edward Island. They served lobster roll. Real lobster. Of course that was 30 years ago.

There's a place not 5 minutes from my house that has a lobster roll so big it would choke a horse. Why a horse would eat a lobster roll is a different story. But it's real and it's spectacular.

I'm surrounded by the little buggers.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2017 06:12 PM (/tuJf)

184 B52's and Cindi Lauper AND Hillary isn't President...it's a good day.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:13 PM (3OIiX)

185 117 Thank you, Duncan.

I think what people forget about the pee party is that the plot line behind the story was that Trump hated Obama so much that he had the party in the same room the Obama's had stayed in and he wanted to defile the bed they slept on.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (lKyWE)

Yup. Which leads to the question that what are all of them doing that makes them think this is even within the realm of reason and not oh come on, stop lifting stuff off of fanfiction.net.
Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 26, 2017 05:47 PM (dEQP3)

Eh, it's just a smear. Even they knew it was too dumb and unlikely to be true. They just wanted the Trump to deny it publicly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 05:48 PM (3OIiX)

++++

The old LBJ pigfucker trick.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 26, 2017 06:14 PM (pvjTE)

186
I didn't know until today that it was Jeb! all along.

Toomers a pimp

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 26, 2017 06:14 PM (lKyWE)

187 A pissed off vet brings his pov, from Twitchy
http://tinyurl.com/ydxvbmzx

Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2017 06:14 PM (pPKG5)

188 In other words, nothing is real. Everything you see is politics in action, the substantial majority of which is leftist driven. Trump has popularized this as all fake news all the time.

Posted by: Locke Common at July 26, 2017 06:14 PM (foDdg)

189 Damn it, Nood. Just when the music was starting...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:14 PM (3OIiX)

190 How is it that we got from a silly "Russian Dossier" with piss-play being shopped around DC, with no one biting except Buzzfeed to everyone in the MSM treating it as fact/proof of high treason?

Think that would be an enlightening process to get into the sunlight.
Suspect a Journ-o-List team coordination was involved with that.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2017 06:15 PM (NOIQH)

191 ...this actually makes sense of journalism now. They don't actually do much work at all. Its why twitter and other social media dominate news media content so heavily: they're on their little devices looking at this stuff all day and its what they write about since they aren't doing their job of running like Lois Lane to get the scoop first. They shop out that kind of thing and just write what catches their attention from social media, then fill in the rest with what they get emailed from shops like Fusion GPS.

Its perfect for the modern reporter: they don't really know how to write or do any research or investigation, they're too lazy and self-obsessed to bother with it, and they don't have to have any real intelligence to do the job. All they have to do is set the narrative, then buy stuff that fits the narrative.

All the theories about consulting together, having skype calls, coordinating and everything required too much ambition and effort on the part of snowflakes. But this, this makes sense of it all. They're shopping from the same sources, using the same stories, and its all part of not a conspiracy but lazy outsourcing their job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 26, 2017 06:15 PM (39g3+)

192 "I thought old Toomer Head was involved in the Fusion GPS nonsense up to his diaper. I didn't know until today that it was Jeb! all along."

The involvement of each one of the two at different stages of the game is not a mutually exclusive proposition.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 26, 2017 06:15 PM (ujwCG)

193 Posted by: Shiggz at July 26, 2017 06:10 PM (dKM7H)

I totally agree. This is actually going to be fun.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 26, 2017 06:17 PM (GzDYP)

194 Pardon me but I feel like a prophet. 3 weeks ago I mentioned I thought Jeb was the source of the peepee dossier.

I'm gonna get some alumishine for my tinfoil Stetson.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2017 06:17 PM (FYX7N)

195 LOL, I gotta check that out.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 26, 2017 06:12 PM (3OIiX)

---

They had an incredible studio cover of AC DCs "If you want blood" on YouTube but AV club apparently pulled it. It's worth finding if you can because they open with a very technical cover of a Boston (iirc) song as the intro. I really regret not saving a copy. I could watch it over and over.

Posted by: Hate Has No Afro at July 26, 2017 06:17 PM (psH+N)

196 Trump vs !Jeb

https://youtu.be/H4ThZcq1oJQ

This is my most disliked Trump moment here. It's outrageous for a GOP candidate to repeat an easily disproven liberal talking point. And yet what else is happening here?

!Jeb gets an assist from the moderator and is quietly smug up until 1:15. Then he is completely unable to defend Iraq. "How dare you talk about my family" and fails to mention W. Did he think the question would never ever come up in the general election? That his press wouldn't turn on him at just the right moment?

You could hear a pin drop when the audience sees that the elephant in the room is being addressed for the first time. Calling it a mistake is wrong, but we do have to know the terms of the argument. We can't have our own bubble and we shouldn't want it.

Trump, at this point, is in a better position to beat presumed ~~heir to the throne~~ nominee Hillary (a fact that would be submerged until Nov 8th). And as shitty as he is at this point, he still manages to not be the shittiest man in the room.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 26, 2017 06:18 PM (rnAwa)

197 62 Why didn't we think of this shit?

Posted by: Pravda at July 26, 2017 05:24 PM (gbWkA)

Because compared to this bunch of lickspittles Pravda had some professional integrity.And I'm only halfway kidding.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 26, 2017 05:28 PM (mhIjm)

Pravda didn't have a choice.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 26, 2017 06:18 PM (z/Ubi)

198 McLobster, habanero tabasco, pint of IPA(any brand) and a Starbuck's unicorn smoothy.

What is shitfood and drink for $300, alex.

Posted by: 13times at July 26, 2017 06:18 PM (WHVu+)

199 If Trump were cunning, then maybe he'd let MSM and the Echo Chamber make all sorts of weak and fabricated allegations for months, and then when the standard had been set, turn tables with actual indictments.

But Trump has the cunning of a herring, or so I've been told.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 06:18 PM (+7/1f)

200 >>Trump, at this point, is in a better position to beat presumed heir to the throne
nominee Hillary (a fact that would be submerged until Nov 8th). And as
shitty as he is at this point, he still manages to not be the shittiest
man in the room.

And that is going to be a recurring event in the Trump presidency.
Even when he does something I'm not thrilled about, he's better than everyone else in DC.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 26, 2017 06:20 PM (NOIQH)

201 This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson's early campaigns in Texas. The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumor campaign about his opponent's life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his own barnyard sows.

"Christ, we can't get a way calling him a pig-fucker," the campaign manager protested. "Nobody's going to believe a thing like that."

"I know," Johnson replied. "But let's make the sonofabitch deny it."

https://masscommons.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/
fear-loathing-on-the-campaign-trail-make-them-deny-it/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 26, 2017 06:21 PM (pvjTE)

202 watergate and this russian/trump scandal are opposites in this respect: watergate took a long time to enter the national consciousness, even when congressional panels were set up; it ended with a bang with nixon's resignation. this "scandal" opened with a broad reportage and condemnation, continuous rather than incremental exposure; it may well end in a simper in dribs and drabs dot dot dot . . .

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 26, 2017 05:42 PM (WTSFk)

In that era it took a lot of convincing to make the American public believe covering up the fact your sub-subordinate sent people to check up on his sleeping around girlfriend was anything worthy of their time.

But Mona.

Posted by: gNewt at July 26, 2017 06:22 PM (VquEu)

203 Yet it is rare to read stories about comms shops like Fusion GPS because traditional news organizations are reluctant to bite the hands that feed them.

This is key. You're not going to see this anywhere, so its up to you and me to spread this, and keep spreading it around, so it gets noticed and momentum. To quote the kids today "this needs to go viral."

This is modern day industrial espionage, the real kind that's not 007, but instead is information gathering and getting dirt on opponents.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 26, 2017 06:23 PM (39g3+)

204 In the end I wouldn't be surprised if the story does not end up being about journalists and the state of news reporting instead of Russia at all. There's never been any evidence, let alone an actual definition of what "Russian collusion" even means. But this kind of thing, this gets people's interest.

But we gotta get it out there, because the usual suspects won't.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 26, 2017 06:26 PM (39g3+)

205 I tell you, what we really need to do, what these people really crave in their craven hearts, is to be extolled as heroes.

Bless you media heroes and journalist champions! You're doing God's work!11!

Posted by: Fritz at July 26, 2017 06:35 PM (eLttb)

206 You keep using that word "collusion"
I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Posted by: My name is Inigo Trumptoya prepare to die! at July 26, 2017 06:49 PM (QtQaN)

207 IF Jebito had been elected(he would not have regardless if he was the R general election cnadidate) he would be in MEXICO today announcing the opening of a manufacturing plant.

Acts of Love.....

Economic Annihilation.

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 26, 2017 06:57 PM (oBuXO)

208 I am truly confused by this Fusion GPS junk. Is it Journo-List, Pt. 2? Is it a whole 'nother critter? Is it a close cousin to Witchcraft, the double cross spy job dreamed up by John le Carre in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy? Was it just some amorphous entity floating around the swamps of D.C. that the Dems caught in their little butterfly net and turned into another one of their increasingly bizarre and Byzantine attempts to magically replace Trump and his people with Cankles and her coven? Crap, I can't even tell who the major players are. It seems like every day somebody new is breathlessly announcing yet another connection between the Russians and somebody else somehow or another connected to Trump. Any minute, I expect Joe and Mika to announce that Trump's nanny had a third cousin whose brother-in-law's sister-in-law's best friend had a penpal in Moscow fifty years ago, creating grounds to impeach Trump for something or another.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 26, 2017 07:02 PM (lMsBz)

209 I am truly confused by this Fusion GPS junk. Is it Journo-List, Pt. 2? Is it a whole 'nother critter?

Its basically former reporters doing research on a topic for working reporters, politicians, businessmen, etc. Its espionage for hire, essentially.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 26, 2017 07:04 PM (39g3+)

210 But paid for by someone on the other side.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 26, 2017 07:09 PM (+7/1f)

211 Craving some Rock mock mclobster

Posted by: Shiggz at July 26, 2017 07:10 PM (X8Fea)

212 JEB!

Posted by: jbspry at July 26, 2017 07:11 PM (WujO7)

213 Thanks, Christopher and Ignoramus. I guess I'm just not that into current events. I am a historian who specializes in the Tudors. Now, if this Fusion GPS thing was a ploy dreamed up by Walsingham and Burleigh to smoke out traitors against Elizabeth I, I probably could have quoted you chapter and verse because 99% of the evidence would have already been in and written about by any number of respectable scholars (meaning historians who had earned their degrees prior to 1995). This happy hogwash of info dripping out in bits and pieces day after day, the meaning of which changes every five minutes, occasionally drives me batty.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 26, 2017 07:39 PM (lMsBz)

214 Reporters don't mention the morning conference calls with the Democrats either.

Funny how that is.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 26, 2017 09:50 PM (e8kgV)

215 Don't forget, these reporters also want to someday start their own Fusion GPS

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at July 26, 2017 09:51 PM (e8kgV)

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