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Adam Kredo Reports State Department Was in "Open War" With White House, Ignoring Policy Edicts and Hiring Orders
Maybe it's time to clean house -- finally.
The State Department under Secretary Rex Tillerson has been locked in a growing power struggle with the White House that has angered officials in the West Wing and sparked claims that the Trump administration's top diplomatic organ is now in "open war" with the White House on a range of critical issues, including the Israeli-Palestinian impasse, Iran, the crisis with Qatar, and other matters, according to multiple sources who spoke to the Washington Free Beacon about the situation. The State Department is said to be in a state of "massive dysfunction," with top officials working under Tillerson ignoring White House directives on critical staffing issues and key policy matters, according to multiple sources, including administration allies who are said to be increasingly frustrated with what is perceived as the White House's inability to control its own federal agencies.BTW, remember that Tony Scaramucci said he'd be having a sit-down with his underlings yesterday and would fire any leakers? This FoxNation article isn't coming up for me, but the twitter headline is White House Aide Quits Before Scaramucci Can Fire Him. But I can't read it. Maybe it'll come up for you.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 06:44 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 06:44 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 06:46 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 06:46 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: This is CNN at July 25, 2017 06:46 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 25, 2017 06:47 PM (4bjXi)
Posted by: Mx4 at July 25, 2017 06:47 PM (v0HAr)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 06:47 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 06:47 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: fluffy at July 25, 2017 06:48 PM (jw2Xw)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 06:48 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Strobe at July 25, 2017 06:48 PM (gbWkA)
http://nypost.com/2017/07/25/white-house-aide-
quits-before-scaramucci-can-fire-him/
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 25, 2017 06:48 PM (pvjTE)
Link works for me, Ace. The little bastard issued a statement that he resigned "effective immediately" and that "it was a privilege to work for the president."
To which I can only add a heartfelt "vayr ge hargit, momzer."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 06:48 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 06:48 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: NCKate at July 25, 2017 06:49 PM (E4p3I)
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 06:49 PM (mknWS)
But now, they can't even make quorum. They de facto stopped existing.
Sleep tight!
Posted by: trev006 at July 25, 2017 06:49 PM (IbaEw)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 06:50 PM (mcI77)
Dysfunction junction, what's your function?
Anyone think it was smooth under the last two chief executives?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 06:50 PM (MINbv)
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.>>>>>249 I hate to be the voice of doom but we have lost the country. The
Democrat Party is the enemy inside the wire and the Republican Party is
worthless in fighting against them. We're just going through the
motions, pretending that we still have a country left.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 25, 2017 06:36 PM (FJr2+)
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.OMG!!! Charlie's in the wire....Broken Arrow...I repeat Broken Arrow.....I need fast movers on my position NOW!
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 25, 2017 06:50 PM (0pcwX)
Should we shit on their desks before they get let go, just to make sure the process is working?
Posted by: fluffy at July 25, 2017 06:50 PM (jw2Xw)
Time for shock and awe. Scatter the agencies to the hinterlands to divide the beast. EPA to North Dakota. Education to Mississippi. IRS to Siberia.
Posted by: Now or neva at July 25, 2017 06:51 PM (/zwDg)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 06:51 PM (SjImc)
Schedule C (political appointee) management defying administration orders, or career types?
There's a mix of both at many levels at State and most agencies, and exactly who is the problem and on exactly which issue really is important here.
Everyone can now reprise their denunciations/defenses of Tillerson, but I think they'll still be speculating on the key issues.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2017 06:51 PM (QDnY+)
OK then... that's some Justice there...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 06:51 PM (NgKpN)
WHACK!!! WHACKWHACKWHACKWHACK...
Posted by: Anthony Scarmucci at July 25, 2017 06:52 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 06:52 PM (SjImc)
About the concussion thing, those brains that were studied were donated by families of players because they had noticed symptoms of brain damage prior to death.
So, the sample is not representative of football players in general.
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 06:52 PM (3myMJ)
If by "dysfunctional" you mean aiding and abetting America's enemies.
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 06:52 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 06:52 PM (beJsD)
OK then... that's some Justice there...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 06:51 PM (NgKpN)
Trump should fire him retroactive to before his resignation.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 06:53 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 06:53 PM (MINbv)
Not for nothing but Prince Reebus is Chief of Staff and his JOB is "fix" this shit before it becomes a headache for the president.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 06:53 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 06:52 PM (SjImc)
Out of a cannon?
Into the sun?
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 06:53 PM (mknWS)
Posted by: School House Rock at July 25, 2017 06:53 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 06:54 PM (beJsD)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 06:54 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 06:51 PM (SjImc)
Oh hell yes. At least since Cordell Hull. And with Harry Hopkins and VP Henry Wallace both confirmed commies, it's no wonder Stalin wound up with half of Europe without a fight.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 06:54 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: School House Rock at July 25, 2017 06:53 PM (/tuJf)
I'm only a Bill, stuck here on Capitol Hill...
Posted by: ObamaCare Repeal at July 25, 2017 06:54 PM (NgKpN)
Yep. The striped pants brigade has hated America first for a century.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 06:54 PM (MINbv)
Ace, did Adam KREDO SHOOT FIRST??
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 06:55 PM (1mtMy)
Indeed. The surprise was that Stalin only got half. ..
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 06:56 PM (MINbv)
Ace, did Adam KREDO SHOOT FIRST??
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 06:55 PM (1mtMy)
ISWYDT
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 06:56 PM (mbhDw)
Did they ever make a KREDO action figure?
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 06:56 PM (1mtMy)
IRS to Siberia.
Posted by: Now or neva at July 25, 2017 06:51 PM (/zwDg)
We would interpret that as a declaration of war.
Posted by: V. Putin at July 25, 2017 06:56 PM (sdi6R)
Not a leading question - this one puzzles me. Just because Tillerson checked all of the boxes as an "Outside the Beltway" guy. Who pushed his name to Trump - and what is Tillerson's angle ? Is he trying to preserve some of Obama's agenda - or something else ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 06:56 PM (fiGNd)
Paris accord life support. Since PDT squashed that, Tilly's job was incomplete.
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 06:59 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 06:54 PM (mbhDw)
Don't get me started on that and turning back all the Rooski POWs to certain death.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2017 06:59 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2017 07:00 PM (pPKG5)
Round and round
Round and round
Oh, the wheels on the bus go round and round
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:00 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: oddnot is fed up at July 25, 2017 07:00 PM (g1MTt)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:01 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 07:01 PM (3myMJ)
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I assumed Tillerson would know how to deal with non-performing underlings after all his years in the corporate world. What gives with these people who get cowed by their department?
I formed the same opinion of Condoleeza Rice when she failed to clean up the State Department but realize now that Bush might have prevented her from doing so.
Posted by: Decaf at July 25, 2017 07:01 PM (U5yng)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 06:52 PM (SjImc)
Out of a cannon?
Into the sun?
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 06:53 PM (mknWS)
+++
Oh why, why, why can't this be so?
Posted by: washrivergal at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (2+gSO)
---
State?
Every federal employee should be required, in a page or less, to give Trump an explanation as to why he or she shouldn't be personally fired.
I bet a decent number of the most deserving cases would be unable to resist identifying themselves.
Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (3Liv/)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 06:59 PM (mcI77)
But why ? I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't see what Tillerson's motivation would have been.
What am I missing ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:01 PM (/tuJf)
I've had impure thoughts about the First Lady and pretty much every lady since except the fatties.
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (mknWS)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (ANIFC)
I think PDT had "Hopes" of negotiating with some democrats and "Hoped" to have some semblance of bipartisanship. He did not want to only rule from the Right.
But I think he is learning that his ONLY real support is from the Right.
Live and Learn
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (SjImc)
But with a twist. Instead of one in ten, let's fire 9 out of ten.
No one would miss them.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Decaf at July 25, 2017 07:03 PM (U5yng)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 07:03 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Caliban at July 25, 2017 07:03 PM (QE8X6)
There have been reports of fighting between Tillerson and the West Wing going back months. He's been getting lots of pushback on some of the people he's tried to hire and is running very shorthanded.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:04 PM (/tuJf)
My guess is that Trump saw him as a guy with connections and understanding of the world, a clear knowledge of business, and a like-minded person in terms of America first ideology. But what he didn't get was competent in that position.
I formed the same opinion of Condoleeza Rice when she failed to clean up the State Department but realize now that Bush might have prevented her from doing so.
Yeah I think, if allowed to, she'd have busted off a stompy boot in a few rear ends but Mr "lets get along" didn't let her.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:04 PM (39g3+)
The VA fired nearly 2,600 employees in FY 16
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:04 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (mpXpK)
Don't they all say that just before someone resigns?
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 07:04 PM (mknWS)
I bet a decent number of the most deserving cases would be unable to resist identifying themselves.
Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (3Liv/)
Who says most of them can write?
Seriously though I think you're right. I could see a number of them losing their shit over having to do so and acting out in some manner that would be both pathetic and dumb.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 25, 2017 07:04 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 25, 2017 07:05 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Sea Cucumbers United Against Hatred at July 25, 2017 07:05 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 06:49 PM (mknWS)
John Bolton.
He understands the wreck that is the State Department, and has no illusions that it is anything other than a pro-Arabist, anti-American sewer.
And it has been that way since at least the 1930s.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 07:05 PM (wYseH)
The VA fired nearly 2,600 employees in FY 16
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:04 PM (RrhD2)
Okay, but what about non-whistle-blowers?
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:05 PM (EgOr3)
Even if they "win" in DC Circuit Court, it will be worth paying these people to leave.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:05 PM (LHzKO)
I think they were not ready for the opposition and treason from the agencies that they went in to run. And I don't think Donald Trump gave them a clear enough agenda of what he specifically expected and wanted them to do.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:05 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (pPKG5)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:04 PM (RrhD2)
Yeah probably 1/2 are Reservists who they did not like sometimes get Deployed.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (SjImc)
But why ? I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't see what Tillerson's motivation would have been.
What am I missing ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:02 PM (fiGNd)
Big Oil loves carbon restrictions.
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (FggK5)
Posted by: Caliban at July 25, 2017 07:03 PM (QE8X6)
Absolutely. To start, give your credit card number including the expiration date and cvv on the back.
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (mknWS)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:01 PM (/tuJf)
So, a day ending with y then.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 07:07 PM (NKBOU)
I prefer the hostile takeover "you're all fired but can reapply, interviews start tomorrow" approach, it would have the same effect.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:07 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:07 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Decaf at July 25, 2017 07:03 PM (U5yng)
Not that I needed further reasons to despise him but Paul Ryan's 11/9 statement that he was ready to pursue "a strong Republican agenda" was disingenuous even by his stratospheric standards
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 25, 2017 07:07 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 07:08 PM (Vevy5)
She brought over 70 people with her when she became SoS and some of them remained - they had to in order to continue slow-walking, hiding her mails, etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 07:08 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 07:08 PM (3myMJ)
Army fired 1100.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:07 PM (RrhD2)
They're not union
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 07:08 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (FggK5)
And she does not have a penis, which is a great change from the last 8 years.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (2qHjF)
Can't appoint Bolton because he was a Bush guy. Isn't that the BDS rule around here?
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: Holothurians United at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Mike G. at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (pDxBK)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 07:05 PM (wYseH)
Look, When A Man Loves A Woman was a good song but that doesn't make the guy any sort of leader, mmmkay?
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 07:10 PM (mknWS)
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 07:10 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 07:10 PM (DQ4Fv)
I'm still floored by this. I can see a guy like Tillerson getting to State and just not "getting it", not understanding that the people under him don't care what he thinks, and not being able to recognize let alone deal with a mutiny.
Hell - I think that's at least part of what happened to Sessions.
But I don't get the shit that Tillerson went to the mat over. The Palestinian thing. The Paris Accords.
Not the kind of shit I expected out of an Oil Company CEO. What am I missing ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:10 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Skunky Choom at July 25, 2017 07:10 PM (u/p7K)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:11 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:11 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: colfax mingo at July 25, 2017 07:11 PM (CHPoA)
Trump got elected, as Tucker Carlson puts it so eloquently--by people who loathe the GOPe. Despite this Trump hired a lot of GOPe good ol boys and girls and now.....now.....Trump has a colossal mess.
It is all on Trump to find damn good executives who voted FOR him and who will FIGHT with him...ie people not referred by the
RNC.
Trump can very well turn it around if he hires HIS people.
Trump did what most humans would do ---he tried to make peace ....But there will be NO peace until , as Rush, says these weasels are defeated. And you sure as hell cant defeat them when you hire them to Cabinet level jobs.
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 25, 2017 07:12 PM (oBuXO)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (IDPbH)
State needs an ass man?
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 07:12 PM (mknWS)
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:12 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 25, 2017 07:12 PM (WmgTn)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 25, 2017 07:12 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (mcI77)
We're "out-of-sync" - I posted before I saw this.
I'll look that up. If you can Carbon Restrictions for Dummies it for me - I'd appreciate it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:12 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:13 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Percy Sledge at July 25, 2017 07:13 PM (wYseH)
I'm sure he was a closet, anti-Trump liberal billionaire that wanted to work for Trump in order to undermine him and empower deep state bureaucrats.
I'm sure once Sessions and Tillerson are fired (along with Spicer and all the other people hired and fired after a few months) it will be smooth sailing from here on out with the people Trump hires.
No more excuses.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:13 PM (LHzKO)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 07:13 PM (MINbv)
This is why people move the capital to a new city in the past - to get away from the swamp which can not be drained.
My recommendation is to move State to Idaho - let them deal with the potato farmers and Mormons. Move the WH to some Trump Vegas property. Move the DOE to West Texas, Move the Pentagon as close to Russia as you can get - somewhere in Alaska. Move agriculture to some field in Kansas. In tents. Or maybe to the Central Valley VA, and they can live in migrant worker shacks.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 25, 2017 07:13 PM (LWu6U)
The Sec of State is our top diplomat. I don't think it's a stretch to say that Trump has made relations with some of our longtime allies a bit tricky.
No idea why this should have come as a surprise to Tillerson.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:13 PM (/tuJf)
I was told many times here that Donald Trump was really a liberal NY Democrat.
He sure don't sound or act like it!
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:14 PM (1mtMy)
Bob Dole diagnoses a bad case of electile dysfunction.
Posted by: Bob Dole at July 25, 2017 07:14 PM (j+dfT)
I agree. I get that he loves and respects his daughter but she needs to stay the hell home and out of the policy room. Especially since she seems to the left of Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 07:10 PM (DQ4Fv)
Goddamn motherfucker takin' MY jerb?
DEPORT!!!!
Posted by: Kool-Aid Man at July 25, 2017 07:14 PM (mknWS)
chemjeff had two stupid arguments that he'd jump back and forth from, annoyingly:
1. Trump was a fake Republican and didn't share our values.
2. Trump is too extreme to the Right.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:12 PM (fiGNd)
Eh...it's just typical rent-seeking behavior.
Big Oil has the wherewithal to function in a regulation-rich economy.
Posted by: Percy Sledge at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (wYseH)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449770/ climate-change-activists-advise-stop-driving-flying-grilling-burgers-having-children
This is especially infuriating because the "climate activists" NEVER apply these rules to themselves.
Instead, MOST of them (not a few of them, but MOST) are like Leonardo di Caprio and Al Gore and merrily jet around the world in carbon-burning airplanes to go to "climate conferences" and similar scams where they bemoan how all the unworthy little people are emitting too much carbon with their farts and rototillers!
Leftism is the physical manifestation of the nontangible concept known as "hypocrisy."
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (DQ4Fv)
Its pretty bad, man. I don't know where it comes from. I mean, I'm a sea cucumber. Its like, I eat shit for a living, so I guess I'm used to it. But I didn't expect it there, man.
Posted by: Stichopus chloronotus at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: FireHorse at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:01 PM (/tuJf)
First FLILF ..... First Lady I'd like to.... since... Jackie O?
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (+7/1f)
How is it that this NY Liberal is the most Conservative-sounding and acting president of the United States in my lifetime, and perhaps ever??
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (1mtMy)
***chugs KoolAid***
Yes!!! Once the Deep State Lizard Swamp People from Hollow Earth are gone it will all be hunky dory!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (RrhD2)
I'm sure he was a closet, anti-Trump liberal billionaire that wanted to work for Trump in order to undermine him and empower deep state bureaucrats.
I'm sure once Sessions and Tillerson are fired (along with Spicer and all the other people hired and fired after a few months) it will be smooth sailing from here on out with the people Trump hires.
No more excuses.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:13 PM (LHzKO)
PDT is not politician with a cadre of professional politicians to rely on. He was forced by circumstances to work with The Deep State and The RINOs because that is who populates DC. In addition the "Loyal" Oppositions was out to kill him ( figuratively or worse) from day one. It's not an excuse, its a fact. You want to give up on him, fine, be my guest. I'd rather help and support him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (SjImc)
Fire them all.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (TUknV)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:07 PM (RrhD2)
Ace wants his time machine back.
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:17 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 25, 2017 07:17 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Skunky Choom at July 25, 2017 07:17 PM (u/p7K)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 07:17 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Peruvia at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (B9t7n)
Posted by: Don Q
________
What do you have against toned arms?
Posted by: Happy-Go-Lucky Michelle at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (j+dfT)
1. Trump was a fake Republican and didn't share our values.
2. Trump is too extreme to the Right.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (1mtMy)
Well, he is a chemist. It only has to look good in theory.
Posted by: A Chemical Engineer at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (lIZQs)
They're all feudal lords in waiting. They believe in a different set of rules, justice, and government for them than the little people who should exist only to serve their needs.
Hillary's secretary of state would've sold a Alaska by now.
It is good to keep this perspective as things are a bit chaotic. I expected Trumps first year to be rocky as he got on his feet but this level bothers me because it feels like he's not very good at this leadership and running a business thing.
Still, Texas would have been under martial law by now under Hillary, so... better than the alternative.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (39g3+)
And No, I do not want Condi Rice in an advisory position to State. She wanted UN troops on the southern border in Israel.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (/GzvC)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (mcI77)
Shit ... I got it now. The Paris Accords would limit drilling - limiting new players entering the market while allowing existing players the luxury of limiting production and cutting costs while increasing margins.
Or - as we used to call it - Price Fixing. Or Trusts in my ancient middle-school education. Also known as a Cartel.
I'm slipping. Getting soft. Should have caught that.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (fiGNd)
The idea behind that Fake Protester was to appear as a Trump Supporter waving the Soviet flag.
Really, that was the "plan" for that idiot. The Fake News of course would've played along, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: publix
If I was making recommendations to my buddy Trump, I'd say:
T: Fire the Tillerman!
Then I'd sing a little song about it.
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Rob at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (9rjbw)
Posted by: Robert at July 25, 2017 07:06 PM (mknWS)
Ha ha! What makes you think I'm young enough to have one?
Posted by: Caliban at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (QE8X6)
Might be memory holed, CBS not exactly being Christian-friendly.
Here's something, let me know if helps: (spaces in URL to avoid giving the margins too much fun)
sportsday.dallasnews.com/other-sports/
golf/2017/07/23/ jordan-spieth-answers-burning-questions-including- tiger-jack-comparisons-british-open-win
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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These are all Trump hires.
Remember, Trump asked Comey to stay on.
I'm really getting sick of Trump blaming every failure on the "best" people he personally hired.
Let's just fire everyone Trump hired and start all over. You really think we're not going to be in the same place a few months from now?
I wanted a GOP that was closer to a Nationalist platform Trump represented, but when it comes to actual governing, he's been a disaster.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (LHzKO)
Darn it, another reasonable statement. How's a moron supposed to get it on without some yellow journalism?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (MINbv)
Laura Bush had a nice teacher/librarian vibe going. And you know she was wild in the past, I bet its still in there somewhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:20 PM (39g3+)
We're still in the first reel of a classic Western, or better still a classic Kurosawa Western like Yojimbo.
Hero is now beset on all sides, but tide will turn!
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:20 PM (+7/1f)
Start a blog?
Posted by: Anachronda at July 25, 2017 07:20 PM (sGtp+)
politicians to rely on. He was forced by circumstances to work with The
Deep State and The RINOs because that is who populates DC. In addition
the "Loyal" Oppositions was out to kill him ( figuratively or worse)
from day one. It's not an excuse, its a fact. You want to give up on
him, fine, be my guest. I'd rather help and support him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (SjImc)
100% correct!
Well said.
[and from a jooo!]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Anti-Semite at July 25, 2017 07:20 PM (wYseH)
Agreed. However, I wouldn't be surprised that he's done this because there is almost no one in DC who is not out to knife him in the back. Considering all the leaks from inside the WH - let alone the IC - he's been placed in a position where he has to be very careful about who he lets into his inner circle.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 07:20 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: A Chemical Engineer
Whereas a Chem. E. never has to theorize; he just turns the crank on someone else's work.
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:20 PM (LAe3v)
Support does not equate to denial or parroting Trump victim card. He owns this, own it.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:21 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2017 07:21 PM (pPKG5)
Shit ... I got it now. The Paris Accords would limit drilling - limiting new players entering the market while allowing existing players the luxury of limiting production and cutting costs while increasing margins.
Or - as we used to call it - Price Fixing. Or Trusts in my ancient middle-school education. Also known as a Cartel.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:18 PM (fiGNd)
Yep. That's why there are so many rich socialists. They want to pull the ladder up behind them once they got it made.
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:21 PM (sdi6R)
Big Oil has the wherewithal to function in a regulation-rich economy.
Posted by: Percy Sledge at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (wYseH)
Yeah - got it now. Thanks. Seriously.
I'm embarassed I didn't get that sooner. And there were articles talking about Big Oil's support of the Paris Accords at the time. I heard a couple on AM radio. I remember Shell in particular.
I didn't connect the dots. I'm a dumb-ass. I should know better.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:21 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (LHzKO)
Yeah Gorsuch is a disaster.
Shit canning Regulations is a disaster
Appointing Conservative Federal Judges is a Disaster
Funding our Military is a Disaster
Making a run at controlling the Borders is a disaster?
And of course you have an alternative?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:22 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 07:22 PM (FggK5)
First Lady I'd like to.... since... Jackie O?
Laura Bush had a nice teacher/librarian vibe going. And you know she was wild in the past, I bet its still in there somewhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
She was okay, but no Eleanor Roosevelt. rowwrrrrr.
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:22 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (PY9jH)
I'm afraid Mr ace (or whomever it is) has made a serious error in judgement, and has slandered and entire phylogenic Class of sensitive, literate, and unfairly maligned shit eaters.
Posted by: Prof (Emeritus) Elmus T Madreporite at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (CPk08)
He's not a disaster, but he is going to be chaotic and his own worst enemy throughout his administration (just like his campaign).
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Happy-Go-Lucky Michelle
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Hey...look at these guns, baby!
Posted by: Barky at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (OdK9v)
Same reason the Big banks help write Regulations for the Treasury Dept...
They can afford the Regs which drive everyone else out of business...
Its why there has been so much bank consolidation in the last 15 or so years.
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (2qHjF)
him, fine, be my guest. I'd rather help and support him.
Well said, Nevergiveup!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 07:15 PM (DQ4Fv)
This ties in to why I keep trying to get away from the label "Leftist" for these.... people.
Leftism, meaning Marxist-Leninism, is long dead and buried. There is no more "Left" per se. These people we call "Leftists" don't operate on any political ideology other than naked Barbarism. Either direct or indirect, i.e. "We'll smash you and take your stuff" or "I'll sit here and know i'm better than you, cheering them on while they smash you and take your stuff". Call them a hypocrite, and they'll look at you blankly like you just called them a kwydgibo. By their lights, they are perfectly consistent. "Smash You. Take Stuff. Where am I wrong? You're the one who's a hypocrite, because you still have stuff We haven't taken!"
The Terror of the French Revolution did not happen by accident.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:24 PM (hcyUh)
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As shocking as finding out sex causes pregnancy.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 25, 2017 07:24 PM (nILVB)
In Sicilian, Scaramucci is a killing word.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (PY9jH)
Like Mu'adib?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 25, 2017 07:24 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
We're listening...
Posted by: Sanctuary Cities at July 25, 2017 07:24 PM (B9t7n)
There are two concepts here at war in your mind, I think
Donald Trump, as the chief executive is responsible for everything his underlings do, in the way that, say, a lieutenant is responsible for what his platoon does. If Private Pyle goes berserk and shoots the Gunny, the LT is responsible because its up to him to keep order, discipline, and watch over his men.
But Donald Trump is not guilty of the incompetence or failure of his underlings. Just as LT didn't shoot the gunny, Private Pyle did.
So we hold Trump responsible for poor choices and their consequences, but we hold the people actually in the positions guilty of their incompetence and failures.
As I've said a couple times in the past: same thing with Trump's campaign staff. He had to clean up a couple of times, but when he did things got remarkably better. Its a learning curve and he seems to learn pretty fast.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:25 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 07:25 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:21 PM (RrhD2)
When did he say he does not own it? Take Sessions as an example, he said it was a mistake appointing him and if he knew he was gong to recuse himself he never would have appointed him. Sounds pretty straight forward to me? And when he has lost confidence in someone, he fires them. Sounds like taking responsibility to me. Of course if you expect him to grovel for forgiveness, then yes I doubt he will do that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:25 PM (SjImc)
Trump started out ok, but failed to understand what draining the swamp would require. He has a tiny window of opportunity to get it together. I hope he surprises me, but not holding my breath. Had he appointed Bolton to SoS instead of Tillerson he would not be fighting yet another battle of the alphabet soup agencies.
Posted by: colfax mingo at July 25, 2017 07:25 PM (CHPoA)
Stuff. Where am I wrong? You're the one who's a hypocrite, because you
still have stuff We haven't taken!"
The Terror of the French Revolution did not happen by accident.
Wut?
Posted by: kwydgibos at July 25, 2017 07:25 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (PY9jH)
Like Mu'adib?
Like, "We're gonna do the Fandango on these boys"
Posted by: BIRM at July 25, 2017 07:25 PM (B9t7n)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 25, 2017 07:26 PM (Sda6L)
Posted by: pep
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Yeah, bow-wow, bow-wow.
Posted by: Lucy Mercer. at July 25, 2017 07:26 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 25, 2017 07:26 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Random Benthic Macrofauna at July 25, 2017 07:26 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 07:26 PM (beJsD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
++++++
He's going to have my vote and I like seeing liberals in tears over him, but Trump is starting to become like Dubya in my eyes where I just can't really go to the mat defending him anymore.
I also don't think his supporters are doing him any favors with the cult of personality nonsense.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:26 PM (LHzKO)
MugabeCare will die on it's own, the government is broke and no amount of tax cuts can make up for the crazy over spending and the rest of their crap out of Mordor on the Potomac can go right in the shit can once the their credit implodes.
President Trump, no matter what, will always be better than the FAB.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2017 07:27 PM (5VlCp)
I wanted a GOP that was closer to a Nationalist platform Trump represented, but when it comes to actual governing, he's been a disaster.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:19 PM (LHzKO)
Yep what a disaster he cut funding for sex education yesterday and we'll no longerbe supplying guns,money and intelligence to a rebel group in Syria that is connected to ISIS.
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 07:27 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:27 PM (iVOAv)
Just look, daily on reddit there are three or four top posts about his poll numbers being "sad," about how he will be impeached, about how he is criminal, etc. Now reddit does not count for much, but it reveals the agenda of the Left's machine - they are trying to deligitimize him in order to make everyone doubt their security if they stand loyal to him.
This is an ongoing project from the Left. Look what they did to Judge Bork. Why? because he something he did to support a Republican decades earlier. There are many examples of them enforcing the unwritten law that if you help the Right, you will be crushed. Stalinesque, I think.
So I am sure all these people are being told very clearly that if they stand with PDT, they will be out of work soon and then punished. This is the thing, PDT was able to resist because he is brash and independently created. He does not need anyone. But the people he hires either have to be single minded willing to sacrifice for the sake of the country, or they are vulnerable. Even wealthy financiers know that the machine will find a way to punish them.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 25, 2017 07:27 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Publius Redux at July 25, 2017 07:27 PM (IUXTz)
...but Trump is starting to become like Dubya in my eyes where I just can't really go to the mat defending him anymore.
lulz!
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:27 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2017 07:27 PM (/GzvC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:28 PM (SjImc)
I don't know. Doesn't seem fair to me. I mean, I'm not a sea cucumber
and I don't want to speak for them, but I'd be pretty pissed if someone
compared me to that bimbo. Seriously.
Posted by: Random Benthic Macrofauna
Yeah, of course. The only coprophages that count are marine, right?
So typical.
Posted by: Terrestrial Coprophages at July 25, 2017 07:28 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:16 PM (1mtMy)
I've concluded that, at least to a degree, the liberal stuff was cover.
Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 07:28 PM (NKBOU)
Posted by: Chris De Burgh at July 25, 2017 07:28 PM (lIZQs)
You can't "defend" him anymore, dunce??
Defend Trump for WHAT??
For what, oh life-long conservative? Tell us, please.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:28 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (beJsD)
I agree. What was once the left in America is now just people lusting for power and control. They have no ideology left. They don't believe in anything. Every single principle they once held regarding equality, justice, tolerance, and democracy they have utterly shredded and repudiated and if you pin them down on this they agree and admit it.
They aren't ideologically leftist any longer. They're feudalists, they want to be lords of the manor in power over everyone else grinding away as serfs to support and provide for the lords.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 07:23 PM (NgKpN)
... and Insurance Companies went All-In on ObamaCare.
So it makes sense to me now - Trump misread Tillerson as badly as I did. And Tillerson wasn't the Outsider I thought he was. He's more of a product of the modern Democrat/Corporate fusion.
But then who, if anyone, can Trump actually get help from ? Is this Scaramucci going to be any better ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (RrhD2)
Yeah, sure. I mean we all remember the epic defenses.
Your concern is...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (Km9Fo)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (hscyr)
Posted by: United Sea Cucumbers Against Hatred at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (nlbfN)
If you find yourself on the Defensive when it comes President Donald Trump, you're either a Cuck or a Totalitarian posing as a conservative on the internet.
Which one are you?
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (1mtMy)
Leftism, meaning Marxist-Leninism, is long dead and buried. There is no more "Left" per se. These people we call "Leftists" don't operate on any political ideology other than naked Barbarism. Either direct or indirect, i.e. "We'll smash you and take your stuff" or "I'll sit here and know i'm better than you, cheering them on while they smash you and take your stuff". Call them a hypocrite, and they'll look at you blankly like you just called them a kwydgibo. By their lights, they are perfectly consistent. "Smash You. Take Stuff. Where am I wrong? You're the one who's a hypocrite, because you still have stuff We haven't taken!"
The Terror of the French Revolution did not happen by accident.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:24 PM (hcyUh)
Well said. They no longer give a damn about having a consistent ideology, it's just Will to Power with them.
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (sdi6R)
He's on an extended vacaycay.
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (RrhD2)
What was Fredo's health plan? That was written by Congress. It's the RINO Congress that is at fault here. He is not a dictator not matter what that chemist says
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (SjImc)
++++
I don't think Cruz would have actually won, but I know for certain we wouldn't be having these kinds of headaches had he become President.
We probably would have already passed tax reform and health care reform as well.
But Trump's new press secretary and former Obama donor/supporter is going to clean everything up.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (LHzKO)
So..... what you're asking is, can he do the Fandango?
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (LAe3v)
Yeah?
What, AGAIN?
*sigh*
All right. Where's he being held? Uh huh. Okay. Be right down.
*click*
Posted by: Zombie Jack Ruby at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (UW4Uc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
WTF?
Bunt, you fools!
With men on first and second with no outs -- if you are within two runs, YOU MUST CALL FOR A BUNT.
Gets those runners in scoring position! Then aim for the fences! You're guaranteed at least one run, from a sacrifice fly at a minimum.
Do they even bunt anymore in pro baseball?
Posted by: zombie at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (DQ4Fv)
A little late, but still.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Amphipod larva at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (CPk08)
I don't mean that anyone who thinks Trump is a bad president couldn't do better, just that there's no such thing as a "perfect president". Or, in its Strong Form: Every Presidency in a Republic is by necessity a disaster. As it should be. I don't want a President who has the power to "Fix Everything". Or really even to fix *anything*.
If all Donny Two Scoops accomplishes is to serve as a lightning rod for a cultural shift away from barbaric lunacy and towards adult responsibility (ironic, huh?), I'll consider him a raving success.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (hcyUh)
If you don't have electricity, you don't know any of this. Just another balmy and humid summer day just before a storm.
Posted by: Federick Gorje Gordun at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (1mtMy)
I don't know. Doesn't seem fair to me. I mean, I'm not a sea cucumber
and I don't want to speak for them, but I'd be pretty pissed if someone
compared me to that bimbo. Seriously.
Posted by: Random Benthic Macrofauna
Yeah, of course. The only coprophages that count are marine, right?
So typical.
Posted by: Terrestrial Coprophages
I'm out. I didn't sign up for this.
Posted by: Scarabaeus viettei at July 25, 2017 07:31 PM (B9t7n)
While this is comical, I'll take it seriously and simply ask:
What happens if he goes down or fails, what is the alternative that's waiting in the wings? President Bush on a bad day was better than Obama's best day. And worse is on the horizon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:32 PM (39g3+)
Yeah Cruz would have? With this Congress? How? With reconciliation? How? with only 52 Votes at most? How?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:32 PM (SjImc)
Thus the incogruity of XOM moving so much operations just downwind of Tomball, TX, the home of seemingly countless small operators...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 07:32 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 07:05
We want the Stache!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
THIS
Posted by: mpfs, Kiss Kiss...Bang Bang at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (79p/O)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (OdK9v)
I was a Cruz supporter until Trump got the nomination and even I don't think that wouldn't have happened under Cruz.
Good grief there are a lot of disappointed trump supporters here today.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (iVOAv)
I don't see Cruz as POTUS being legislatively effective. One of the few people your typical Congresscritter hates more than Trump.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 25, 2017 07:09 PM (IDPbH)
...John Bolton was just about the only Bush guy worth a damn. I say, send him in there to clean house. I'd wager he'd do it, Augean Stables-like.
Posted by: Spiny Norman at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (U3sWw)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 07:05
We want the Stache!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
THIS
Posted by: mpfs, Kiss Kiss...Bang Bang at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (79p/O)
I'm in on that...Anyone have Paul's Cell Number? LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (/GzvC)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (iVOAv)
197 186
I don't know. Doesn't seem fair to me. I mean, I'm not a sea cucumber
and I don't want to speak for them, but I'd be pretty pissed if someone
compared me to that bimbo. Seriously.
Posted by: Random Benthic Macrofauna
Yeah, of course. The only coprophages that count are marine, right?
So typical.
Posted by: Terrestrial Coprophages
I'm out. I didn't sign up for this.
Posted by: Scarabaeus viettei
Roll with it, dude.
Posted by: Terrestrial Coprophages at July 25, 2017 07:34 PM (LAe3v)
Why doesn't he just wander around the building naked with a tattoo on his forehead, "I'm the leaker!!"??
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 25, 2017 07:34 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:34 PM (iVOAv)
Obama did say they were just months away from a Fundamental Transformation of the country. Looks like he was right. He did it.
Posted by: Federick Gorje Gordun at July 25, 2017 07:34 PM (m9X4Y)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (MINbv)
But I guess enough people bought into that to think he'd actually be an effective leader that surrounded himself with the "best"
The "best" that he has to fire a few months later.
He's a trust funded brat that inherited hundreds of millions and has no idea how anything works except that he has to be surrounded by sycophants and family members.
I'm really glad he beat Hillary, at least we got Gorsuch in there, but this guy is a disaster that will still be blaming all his failures on the people he himself hired.
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (LHzKO)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 25, 2017 07:05
We want the Stache!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
THIS
Posted by: mpfs, Kiss Kiss...Bang Bang at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (79p/O)
The Stache's name is Regis, btw.
Posted by: Spiny Norman at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (U3sWw)
So, what was the question?
Posted by: FireHorse at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (zkGZ8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (FggK5)
...but Trump is starting to become like Dubya in my eyes where I just can't really go to the mat defending him anymore.
Whatever it is you're smoking/snorting/tossing shots of. Did you bring enough for the rest of the class? Cause it sounds like you've got some good shit.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (hscyr)
Posted by: Federick Gorje Gordun at July 25, 2017 07:34 PM (m9X4Y)
Pretty fuckin close
But they have destroyed the education system in America- Comrade Stalin would be Proud
And Healthcare is headed toward a UK model
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017
And when someone else's work doesn't work? Or, the crank breaks?
Posted by: A Chemical Engineer at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (lIZQs)
Can you image the epic shitting of pants at State if this came to pass?
Posted by: mpfs, Kiss Kiss...Bang Bang at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (79p/O)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 25, 2017 07:26 PM (Sda6L)
Vote for me and I'll sweep that house clean! And don't forget to tune in to Pappy O'Daniel's Flour Hour!
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 25, 2017 07:36 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:36 PM (1mtMy)
I see how strongly your supporting PDT..
Hey do me a favor, if I am ever in trouble, please don't support me.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:36 PM (SjImc)
hinterlands to divide the beast. EPA to North Dakota. Education to
Mississippi. IRS to Siberia.
Posted by: Now or neva
What did we eva do to you? We gots enough troubles.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 25, 2017 07:36 PM (6jaju)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (mcI77)
Whereas a Chem. E. never has to theorize; he just turns the crank on someone else's work.
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017
And when someone else's work doesn't work? Or, the crank breaks?
Posted by: A Chemical Engineer
Then those with experience in actually, you know, generating new knowledge step up and do it.
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (LAe3v)
Not really that late. I mean yeah in Political years its been forever but in real time... President Trump took office just seven months ago. It really hasn't been that long, at all.
I don't think Cruz would have actually won, but I know for certain we wouldn't be having these kinds of headaches had he become President.
Nobody can possibly be that ignorant. Donald Trump isn't the problem. Him not being a Democrat is the problem. The name of the person or what they did has absolutely nothing to do with how the press, the Democrats, or the Deep State reacts to Republicans. All that matters is that they aren't in power, and anyone between them and power must be destroyed.
The GOPe wouldn't have worked with or liked Cruz either. They hate him with the incandescent hate of ten thousand suns. He represents the tea party, he filibustered the ACA being implemented, he's the face of their true enemy, threatening their phony baloney jobs.
Good lord, they acted like Romney was the bastard offspring of Satan and Hitler and he didn't even win.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (FggK5)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (aMlLZ)
Posted by: publix
You're the reason I voted for Trump. Can't stand people like you on "our side."
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (sdi6R)
Of course, comparing us to some sluttish popular person is beneath comment.
Posted by: Enypniastes eximia at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (CPk08)
I would say Trump shares some of the blame. But the truth is every Republican president suffers from this exact same problem.
I don't know why anyone actually thought this was going to be easy. Forget the depth of the rot, Trump has zero political experience and is having to learn on the fly. It's a lot different than running your own company in the private sector.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (/tuJf)
So..... what you're asking is, can he do the Fandango?
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (LAe3v)
I never really understood what in the fvck Freddy Mercury was trying to tell me there.
And hey - before I say anything else - I know I've been all questions tonight. This shit really surprised me - I didn't see it coming. I ALWAYS see shit coming.
Except when I don't.
Just trying to sharpen my observation skills. I really, really, really ain't trying to troll shit. Trump ain't perfect - but he still has my vote.
I hope I'm not sounding like a troll. Which I probably am. Because I felt the need to say I'm not trolling.
Gah ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (fiGNd)
Pink slips for all of the deep state cocksuckers!
Posted by: Fritz at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (eLttb)
Scaramanga. Triple nipple of doom.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (mbhDw)
Jeez, you're more of a downer than a funeral.
Move along little doggie....move along.
Posted by: mpfs, Kiss Kiss...Bang Bang at July 25, 2017 07:39 PM (79p/O)
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:39 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2017 07:39 PM (/GzvC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:39 PM (iVOAv)
"Let's go for a little ride. Alberto, bring the car around. ________ (leaker) you sit in the front.
I can make things go a lot easier for you. Just name names, capice? Al, pull over. Take __________ for a walk. He's lookin' a little pale. There's a nice view over there at the cliff."
In my mind he goes all Don Corleone.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:39 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Sea Cucumbers Revolution Every Where at July 25, 2017 07:39 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:40 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:40 PM (+7/1f)
Maybe his plan was to hire crappy people first so he could fire them after a few months as an example and then put in who he really wanted all along.
Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2017 07:40 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 07:40 PM (FggK5)
Posted by: Fort Marcy Park at July 25, 2017 07:40 PM (UW4Uc)
Posted by: publix at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (LHzKO)
publix, do you like gladiator movies???????????
Posted by: Godwin, Darwin & Marx, LLC at July 25, 2017 07:41 PM (ihtYN)
Publix?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:38 PM (iVOAv)
Norm's brother he doesn't like to talk about.
Posted by: josephistan at July 25, 2017 07:41 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (OdK9v)
This, in spades!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 25, 2017 07:41 PM (hscyr)
Think this coming to a head because Trump gave them time Sessions, Tilkerson and instead of cleaning house and supporting him more they've become the swamp. And before the fall it is better resolve this now, after all the special elections and in summer recess.
Posted by: Ann at July 25, 2017 07:41 PM (1ANfd)
George W Bush is probably the most decent, nicest guy to ever hold the office
Except for that whole being a fraud on pro-life thing.
Bush sucked. He's a piece of shit who couldn't care less to what obama was doing. Yeah, that's a man who truly loves his country. Fuck him.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:41 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 25, 2017 07:42 PM (hVdx9)
Can you image the epic shitting of pants at State if this came to pass?
Posted by: mpfs, Kiss Kiss...Bang Bang at July 25, 2017 07:35 PM (79p/O)
If the bloggers could ensure that they do so in the ocean, we would all be grateful. It would make up for some of the hate directed towards us here.
Posted by: Sclerodactyla briareus at July 25, 2017 07:42 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:37 PM (+7/1f)
Yup...or 2. I am happy to watch as President Trump rips all the masks off of the assholes in Washington and lays all of it bare for the world to see.
Our government is corrupt and over the last 50 years has become a criminal enterprise.
Keating Five anyone? Whitewater anyone? Fast and Furious anyone? Affirmative Action anyone?
I could go on for ever.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2017 07:42 PM (5VlCp)
We probably would have already passed tax reform and health care reform as well.
Got yourself some good weed, or what, exactly?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 25, 2017 07:43 PM (TUknV)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 25, 2017 07:43 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (39g3+)
As I've said before, We're living in Zardoz now.
The Acela Corridor Feudalists are The Eternals.
The Muslims are The Exterminators.
Everyone else are The Brutals.
and The Penis is Evil.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 07:43 PM (Vevy5)
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:43 PM (sdi6R)
That's right, nth dimensional checkers!! Totes!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:43 PM (RrhD2)
ocean, we would all be grateful. It would make up for some of the hate
directed towards us here.
Posted by: Sclerodactyla briareus
Oh, eat s***.
Wait.
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:44 PM (LAe3v)
No, you're out of the family business, that's your punishment. You're finished. I'm putting you on a plane to Vegas. ...Only don't tell me that you're innocent. Because it insults my intelligence and it makes me very angry. Now, who approached you first? The Times or The Post?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 07:44 PM (+7/1f)
He did more to protect babies and fight abortion that any president before or after him. The first thing he signed upon taking office is to stop that order to compel free abortions on military bases worldwide. He ended federal funding of stem cell research. He did tons to fight abortion, what exactly fraud are you talking about?
The guy had problems but he really was a decent man. Just because he failed in areas that are frustrating doesn't make that less true. Hell he probably failed BECAUSE he's a decent man, in a job where you need a monster.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:44 PM (39g3+)
George W Bush is probably the most decent, nicest guy to ever hold the office
Unless you were running against a Bush or one of their cronies then he was a dirty prick
Posted by: Deplorable Male logic at July 25, 2017 07:44 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:44 PM (EgOr3)
Bush admin was funding abortions. He funded planned abortionhood.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 25, 2017 07:34 PM (eMKNe)
Isn't that how John Kerry got his job at State?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (hcyUh)
I can't envision Cruz being able to bring the crowds out like Trump. He loves to be out among the voters. This is where he shines. Doesn't mince words, doesn't do political. He is what he is...no apologies.
That's good enough for me.
Posted by: mpfs, Kiss Kiss...Bang Bang at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (79p/O)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (iVOAv)
Light fixture won't hold.
Ah! The sprinkler pipe. A good eight feet off the floor...that'll do. Yeah, that'll do nicely.
Posted by: Necktie or random piece of rope that should have been confiscated at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (UW4Uc)
I suggest putting on your seat belts and taking dramamine if you need it.
Cowboy up
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (SjImc)
Are you telling me obama was the first to federally subsidize planned parenthood??
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (1mtMy)
Bush sucked. He's a piece of shit who couldn't care less to what obama was doing. Yeah, that's a man who truly loves his country. Fuck him.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:41 PM (1mtMy)
Yeah, I supported Bush when he was President, but he didn't utter a peep of complaint about an overtly anti-American Obama presidency.
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (sdi6R)
I think I see a flaw in the plan. It took Trump longer than any other President to get his cabinet confirmed. And now he wants to go through that again with an even more hostile Congress?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:46 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Oh, didn't he? Didn't he really win in the end? Super nice decent guy, invented OCare, would have been raked over the coals night and day while he ran every policy paper past a bipartisan group of both far Left and Democratic thinkers. Would have given them virtually everything they wanted and then been pilloried by Liberal historians.
That is the only R President they would have accepted. Welcome to the machine.
Posted by: SMOD is my Father at July 25, 2017 07:46 PM (B9t7n)
He didn't take longer. The Democrats deliberately dragged their feet.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:47 PM (iVOAv)
What you're saying is actually "he didn't veto a bill that funded planed parenthood, just like the last 3 presidents before him"
Bush didn't veto but a handful of bills. It was one of his flaws: unless a bill was specifically and blatantly unconstitutional, he would always sign it no matter how much he didn't like it. The nice guy thing, again. It will get you in trouble more times than it helps.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:47 PM (39g3+)
The Acela Corridor Feudalists are The Eternals.
The Muslims are The Exterminators.
Everyone else are The Brutals.
and The Penis is Evil.
Posted by: Hikaru at July 25, 2017 07:43 PM (Vevy5)
And yet who gets compared to Katy Perry?
Honest, hardworking holothurians.
It makes my ossicles ache. It really does.
Posted by: Sclerodactyla briareus at July 25, 2017 07:47 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017
---------
Same for all engineers, no?
I raise an objection, engineers often do original work/design.
One might argue that all of the sciences have their foundations in mathematics, but that doesn't mean that one's original and creative acheivments can be assigned to mathematicians.
I was amused when a Polish physicist, after presenting a long-ish seminar concerning signal processing, asked me over dinner, "But, how do you implement these things as real hardware?" I was a bit speechless, as I didn't know where to begin.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 07:47 PM (OdK9v)
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:43 PM (sdi6R)
You don't even want to *know* what an Arlington Necktie is....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:48 PM (hcyUh)
Which one are you?
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:30 PM (1mtMy)
LOL what?
Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 07:48 PM (/9jA6)
Posted by: SMOD is my Father at July 25, 2017 07:46 PM (B9t7n)
No shit. Trump is, literally, this country's last chance.
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:48 PM (EgOr3)
There's a Jim Nabors joke in there somewhere, but darned if I can find it.
Posted by: Shep Smith at July 25, 2017 07:48 PM (vRcUp)
George Bush is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
Posted by: Bennett Marco at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (IqV8l)
Bush sucked. He's a piece of shit who couldn't care less to what obama was doing. Yeah, that's a man who truly loves his country. Fuck him.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:41 PM (1mtMy)
Yeah, I supported Bush when he was President, but he didn't utter a peep of complaint about an overtly anti-American Obama presidency.
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:45 PM (sdi6R)
I wouldn't have minded Bush just keeping his mouth shut, but he ACTIVELY came out and campaigned against Trump.
That shit still burns me up.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (hcyUh)
Trump victim script. Bring up Obama or Hillary. Blame Congress/GOPe/Deep State/MSM/whoever.
Campaigning is fun. Say a bunch of stuff, let people project views onto you, make vague promises. Governing is hard. Identifying a plan and pushing it through is hard. Speeches about it is hard. Apparently easier to babble about past victories (electoral map) and tweet about other issues. Blame Congress.
Good for popcorn, but not a good 4-year strategy.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Jen the original at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (FggK5)
Presidents Obama and Carter are not the template. Presidents in the past several centuries have not complained or criticized their successors, ever. Until recently when leftist jackwagons cannot keep their pie hole shut. Again: too nice a guy? Probably. but that doesn't stop him from being decent.
You have to separate his person from his policy decisions. He was a decent, kind man who made stupid decisions sometimes. Maybe often. But those failures don't make him a bad guy personally.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (39g3+)
Whereas a Chem. E. never has to theorize; he just turns the crank on someone else's work.
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017
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Same for all engineers, no?
I raise an objection, engineers often do original work/design.
One might argue that all of the sciences have their foundations in
mathematics, but that doesn't mean that one's original and creative
acheivments can be assigned to mathematicians.
Don't sweat it. I actually like engineers. I'm just giving a bit of payback to him what started it.
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (LAe3v)
That shit still burns me up.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (hcyUh)
Plus, he was a massive squish on the illegal invasion. That "no child left behind" thing was a nightmare, too. That said, I do think he has an innate decency, on a personal level.
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:50 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:33 PM (iVOAv)
Not me!
Posted by: Country Boy at July 25, 2017 07:50 PM (/9jA6)
If I have to stop this car you are both going to be sorry.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (RrhD2)
Well that's good because we're 6 months in!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (iVOAv)
***clinks mug***
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (1mtMy)
Yeah that was ahole territory. I can only chalk it up to "mah brother!" stupidity and bitterness that Trump ruined their dynasty. But really, Jeb Bush had less chance of being president than I do. What a loser.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (39g3+)
Bush never called obama a liar. Because he never wanted to.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (1mtMy)
I think Trump has worked really hard, and I place most of the blame on Uniparty, but then i wasn't voting for a Savior.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:52 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:48 PM (EgOr3)
Bullshit.
WE, sane rational adults, are this country's last chance. Trump's just the lightning rod we can finally gather around.
(sorry for the mangled figurative language...)
If Trump crashes and burns, well, dammit, we'll find some other person to carry our banner for us and march forth.
Breath of fresh air? Fresh legs? New Blood? Sure.
Last Chance? Not by a long shot.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 07:52 PM (hcyUh)
>>And that's why I love this man.
>>He speaks for Me.
Wait till he starts calling people cucks!
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:52 PM (/tuJf)
***clinks mug***
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (RrhD2)
What blows my mind is, really, this is the very best Ivanka could do? I mean, look at the woman . . .
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:52 PM (EgOr3)
Campaigning is fun. Say a bunch of stuff, let people project views onto you, make vague promises. Governing is hard. Identifying a plan and pushing it through is hard. Speeches about it is hard. Apparently easier to babble about past victories (electoral map) and tweet about other issues. Blame Congress.
Good for popcorn, but not a good 4-year strategy.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:49 PM (RrhD2)
Not sure what your point is, but the hard facts are that with only 52 Republican Senators ( make that closer to maybe 48 real or near real Republicans) what "Bill" exactly are you going to pass? You can't even pass a bullshit reconciliation repeal or repeal and replace? And this is some how all PDT's fault? When Fredocare was passed the Left marched in lock step like good little commies. the Right not so much
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:52 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: SMOD is my Father at July 25, 2017 07:52 PM (B9t7n)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:53 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:53 PM (1mtMy)
>>I'm just giving a bit of payback to him what started it.
If I have to stop this car you are both going to be sorry.
Posted by: JackStraw
If we're good, can we go to South of the Border and buy firecrackers?
Posted by: pep at July 25, 2017 07:53 PM (LAe3v)
Good, good, really good times.
Posted by: the guy across the street at July 25, 2017 07:53 PM (sf2BM)
Genghis Khan, instead of just firing them, would have their heads removed. The replacements would be installed posthaste. We need more Khan and less Bush.
Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2017 07:53 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 25, 2017 07:53 PM (0mRoj)
Carter and Obama just wipe their rear end with that and cut loose. Why? Because power, bitchez.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:53 PM (39g3+)
I raise an objection, engineers often do original work/design.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2017 07:47 PM (OdK9v)
Hey ... pssst ... don't tell nobody. I'm an Engineer. Not one of the Uselessly Over-Complicate Shit ones. One of the Drink Beer With the Crew and Fix Shit on the Fly ones.
We do shit nobody's ever seen, every now and then. It just takes all of us together. We don't all make the same money. But we all stand in line together for lunch.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 07:54 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:54 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:54 PM (iVOAv)
They were assholes then and the whole family are assholes now.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2017 07:54 PM (5VlCp)
And Sessions inflicted this Shadow Atty. General Mueller-Coup on the nation by blindsiding Trump with recusal.
If they can't do their jobs, they should go.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 25, 2017 07:55 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Peaches
She knows things you don't know.
Posted by: Jared "Tripod" Kushner at July 25, 2017 07:55 PM (LAe3v)
Exactly. I understand the frustration and concern, and I know there's a lot at stake. But President Trump isn't the answer to all our problems and the solution to all our fears. You will not be saved or lost by the politicians in our land.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:55 PM (39g3+)
You're a chemist, make your own.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2017 07:56 PM (/tuJf)
What is a BOGO?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:56 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:29 PM (RrhD2)
Under ObamaCare, health costs rose at a (recently) low record rate. After it rose at record astronomic rates the first year or two.
***********************
Conversation with tax accountant:
"Look, I saved you $1000 this year."
But that $3000 I lost last year, what about that?
"Hey, I cut your tax burden by 33% this year*
Posted by: bergerbilder at July 25, 2017 07:56 PM (lIZQs)
What's funny is that Reagan coulda won without Bush, no problem. But he felt he needed Bush to carry the dinks of the Republican party.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:56 PM (1mtMy)
***clinks mug***
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 07:51 PM (RrhD2)
What blows my mind is, really, this is the very best Ivanka could do? I mean, look at the woman . . .
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:52 PM (EgOr3)
What normally happens with Ladies with a Strong Father...
They either get someone just LIKE Daddy... or just the Opposite of Daddy...
I'll let you decide which way she went...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 25, 2017 07:56 PM (NgKpN)
Plus, he was a massive squish on the illegal invasion. That "no child left behind" thing was a nightmare, too. That said, I do think he has an innate decency, on a personal level.
Posted by: Peaches at July 25, 2017 07:50 PM (EgOr3)
"Massive squish", hell. He was FOR it all the way.
He could have slammed the border shut after 9/11 and he would have had the support of 90% of the American people. He didn't do it because he didn't WANT to do it. He was a New World Order open borders globalist, period.
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 07:56 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jared "Tripod" Kushner at July 25, 2017 07:55 PM (LAe3v)
Let's just say that I thought he was holding my cousin when I looked up.
Posted by: Synapta maculata at July 25, 2017 07:57 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 07:56 PM (iVOAv)
Buy One Get One Phree! BOGO!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2017 07:57 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 25, 2017 07:57 PM (hVdx9)
Little did Reagan know he'd win over Democrats and didn't need the dinks of the Republican party....just like Donald Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:57 PM (1mtMy)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 25, 2017 07:57 PM (hVdx9)
not that I can think of?
Posted by: Truman at July 25, 2017 07:57 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (1mtMy)
Yeah Cruz would have? With this Congress? How? With reconciliation? How? with only 52 Votes at most? How?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:32 PM
~~~~~~
Forget about those 52 votes---have the Senate hates Cruz. And that's just the Republican side.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (HiDrR)
What a bunch of morons.
And someone on Twitter posted a picture of Hitler youth saluting their fuhrer, and compared the Scouts to them.
*^%$#
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (HiDrR)
All the guys around the Trump family give off a really bad vibe, like the guys in the club Dan Akroyd belonged to in Trading Places. Not Nazi but really inbred blue blood super arrogant guys who'd rape a girl then get off because of a good lawyer. That's probably too far, but I get a bad feeling from how they look and behave. I'm rich, the rules do not apply
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (39g3+)
like the Clintons; when you buy Hillary, you get Bill. And vice versa.
Sincerely,
Posted by: Vlad from Moscow at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (Ndje9)
What is a BOGO?
A clown.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (1mtMy)
Never heard of 'im.
Posted by: Eric the Clown. at July 25, 2017 07:59 PM (hcyUh)
Did you see/hear the applause he got?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:59 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:59 PM (1mtMy)
Yeah tens affected.
Look I am fine with yanking your kids from Boy Scouts, they officially want homosexual scout leaders out camping with your pride and joy for the weekend. No bad can possibly come from that huh? But the tiny speck of people who had a problem with that event are not significant. I can't imagine why they'd get any coverage.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 08:00 PM (39g3+)
Was BOZO buried in his full clown make-up?
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:59 PM (1mtMy)
There was a 21 seltzer-bottle salute.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 08:00 PM (hcyUh)
The point is that you don't even know what Trump's healthcare plan is.
What is his Afghanistan policy?
What is his Syria strategy?
What is his North Korea strategy?
He is not owning any of these or other issues because he is trying to keep his options open but also means he gets to blame others for anything because they are operating in a lack of guidance.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 08:00 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: IrishEi at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (HiDrR)
Yeah ...
... and that's why most of US are RINO's.
We fight and cuss and gouge eyes here - OK, that's just me - but at the end of the day, that's the problem.
You put all of US in some parlimentary system - and we'll hammer out some kind of solution to just about anything. It won't be perfect - but it'll work.
And the rest of the country would hang us for it. We just ain't representative of the rest.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 25, 2017 08:01 PM (fiGNd)
A clown.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 07:58 PM (1mtMy)
Never heard of 'im.
Posted by: Eric the Clown
Have you heard of me?
Bwahahahahah...
Posted by: That's MISTER PENNYWISE at July 25, 2017 08:01 PM (79p/O)
Posted by: Under Fire at July 25, 2017 08:01 PM (mcI77)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 25, 2017 08:01 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2017 08:01 PM (9TU00)
What is his Afghanistan policy?
What is his Syria strategy?
What is his North Korea strategy?
Nobody knew what Reagan's strategies and plans were, either, until he implemented them. I'm not saying Trump = Reagan, I'm saying "this is not unusual or particularly troubling"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 08:01 PM (39g3+)
Right. And they were ok with the ghey infiltration I suppose? Guess we know where they are coming from.
Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2017 08:02 PM (BO/km)
FFS, they're not Kennedy's. They do have a cultish thing going.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 25, 2017 08:02 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 07:59 PM (SjImc)
Yeah, my husband's a Scout leader and he loved it. He was at the Jamboree that Barry couldn't bother to attend, and when the JEF appeared on the jumbotron, the Scouts booed him (which earned them scoldings from their leaders).
Trump mentioned Barry not attending the Jamboree when he was preezy and the Scouts booed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2017 08:02 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 25, 2017 08:02 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2017 08:02 PM (sdi6R)
Tucker is way off base tonight.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 25, 2017 08:03 PM (1mtMy)
How about parents did they talk to? Six? LOL
That's a cr*** reason to pull your son out of Scouts-that you voted for Hillary and didn't like that Trump asked if Obama had attended a Scout jamboree?. Seemed like from what i saw the speech was an affirming speech about respect and love forf God and country and service and appreciation for the Boy Scouts. HOW TERRIBLE!!/s
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2017 08:03 PM (iVOAv)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 25, 2017 08:03 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2017 08:00 PM (39g3+)
You forgot the sarc tag
Posted by: MAC SOG at July 25, 2017 08:03 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: Pennywise The Clown at July 25, 2017 08:03 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: freaked at July 25, 2017 08:03 PM (BO/km)
Yep, and if that doesn't work, vote every incumbent out of public office.
and if that doesn't work ...
Posted by: Bejeweled in Candy Crush Land at July 25, 2017 08:04 PM (m9X4Y)
Why are you guys arguing with it? 'Rons, hold it down while we steal its banana split. I can think of much better uses for all that hot fudge and whipped cream. Cherry anyone?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 25, 2017 08:04 PM (hscyr)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 08:00 PM (RrhD2)
... you say that like it's a bad thing?
A) I'm a little bit fine with that strategy to begin with, anyways (i.e. don't tie yourself down to a single "Doctrine" as a new President when times are turbulent),
and
B) I don't care what he owns/disowns as a matter of public image. I care what he does or doesn't DO, as a matter of what's going on, that there's no way the public could (or should) know what he's up to until it's done.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 08:04 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 08:05 PM (3myMJ)
What is his Afghanistan policy?
What is his Syria strategy?
What is his North Korea strategy?
He is not owning any of these or other issues because he is trying to keep his options open but also means he gets to blame others for anything because they are operating in a lack of guidance.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 08:00 PM (RrhD2)
1) NOBODY has plan to Unfuck Fredocare..It is probably Unfuckable. But yeah that's all PDT's fault
2) What is his Policy in Afghanistan? See my #1. Fredo fucked that up beyond recognition also, but at least PDT is working with the Pentagon and not against it to figure one out
3) Syria see? See my #2. But cutting off funding to the "Moderate" terrorists is good start I'm my opinion
4) North Korea, again see #2. But in this case the fault also lays at every admin since the Korean War both democratic and republican.
5) But at least on Afgh, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, he is working with the Pentagon and not against it
And if I knew what he was thinking I would be severely disappointed that was made public.
Get back to me in 2 years on this stuff.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 25, 2017 08:07 PM (SjImc)
You're a chemist, make your own."
Is firecrackers some kind of meth Ecstasy blend?
Posted by: Walter White at July 25, 2017 08:09 PM (wTi/q)
Either give your subordinates latitude and adjust their course in private or give them guidance and hold them accountable if they stray. Right now Trump is playing the victim and not being a leader. I support but I'm not blind. At some point the buck stops with Trump.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 08:09 PM (RrhD2)
It's all good. He's got over three years to win your vote over Kamala Harris.
Posted by: Meremortal at July 25, 2017 08:10 PM (3myMJ)
Melania aka Muffy:
youtube.com/watch?v=KPvV5QiFYqU
Posted by: Fritz at July 25, 2017 08:11 PM (eLttb)
Stop drama queening. He's got my vote. But fully half his problems are his own damn fault. It came with the package, no complaints. But gotta call a spade a spade (denounce myself).
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 08:13 PM (RrhD2)
That should happen once.
After that, it's time to issue cardboard boxes.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 08:13 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 08:14 PM (g+Dix)
Posted by: Mx4 at July 25, 2017 06:47 PM (v0HAr)
I like that too. If you're fired for performance or other issues, you deserve to save some face.
If you're fired for betraying your boss, you deserve to be publicly humiliated.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 25, 2017 08:15 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: McArthur at July 25, 2017 08:16 PM (hscyr)
Either give your subordinates latitude and adjust their course in private or give them guidance and hold them accountable if they stray. Right now Trump is playing the victim and not being a leader. I support but I'm not blind. At some point the buck stops with Trump.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 08:09 PM (RrhD2)
Agreed, in principle. If that is in fact what Trump's trying to do, I'm not happy about it. But i don't think that's his game. I think the proverbial "buck" is still in transit, and Trump is realizing his team is not really on his side. The more time he can give himself to make maneuvers, the more choices he can give himself. It looks like he's shafting his own team to you. It looks like they're shafting him to me.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 25, 2017 08:17 PM (hcyUh)
Six months of observation. Yeah, he's left members of his team in the wind multiple times. I don't expect it to change, but this is why positions will get hard to fill if turnover continues.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 25, 2017 08:22 PM (RrhD2)
"Tillerson and Jones also raised eyebrows earlier this week when both claimed in public remarks that Russia and the United States share similar interests in Syria, a regional hotspot where the Trump White House has been vocal in its criticism of Russian interference in anti-ISIS operations."
That's not my understanding of Trump's position at all. It seems like the Beacon is attributing conventional neocon views to Trump which he doesn't hold. Trump said throughout the campaign that a) he wants to work with Russia in Syria and b) the Iran deal is a done deal.
Posted by: bjstuggs at July 25, 2017 08:22 PM (NUlzw)
Posted by: kallisto at July 25, 2017 08:24 PM (g+Dix)
One side sides with Islamic terrorists and the other side doesn't. Fire those you can who side with terrorists and reassign the others to new offices at "Camp Barrow" Alaska, phones and computers not included.
Posted by: geoffb5 at July 25, 2017 08:29 PM (d3wbb)
Posted by: kallisto
________
Just like Poland's economic "miracle."
Posted by: FireHorse at July 25, 2017 08:30 PM (zkGZ8)
We probably would have already passed tax reform and health care reform as well.
That's insane. The Democrats and the press (BIRM) would have acted the same regardless of who got elected, if they had an "R" after their name.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 25, 2017 08:40 PM (fVubI)
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at July 25, 2017 08:44 PM (FgFCM)
It's a lovely f***ing war....
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at July 25, 2017 08:47 PM (FgFCM)
Keep your friend close. Keep your enemies closer.
But not THAT fucking close!
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 25, 2017 09:35 PM (z79tQ)
What is his Afghanistan policy?
What is his Syria strategy?
What is his North Korea strategy?
How about doing what is best for the USA? europe/asia/ south am come in way behind the USA for me. I WANT the president to pu t USA first.
Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at July 25, 2017 10:52 PM (CL76w)
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