Swamp Gonna Swamp: Official State Department Report Suggests Israel Is Responsible for Palestinian Murders of Israelis

The Deep State doesn't care who the current president is, or what policies that democratically-elected person supports.

They have their own agenda, their own power sources, and a near-freedom from any consequences due to pretty-much guaranteed lifetime tenure and a political class too cowardly to put them in their places. Or better yet out of their places.

he State Department is facing harsh criticism for claiming in an official report that Israel is to blame for terrorism attacks committed by Palestinians and accusing the Jewish state of being largely responsible for an impasse in peace negotiations, according to a leading member of Congress who is calling on the State Department to correct its "inaccurate and harmful" characterization of Israel.
The State Department, in its latest annual report on the global terrorism situation, blames Israeli security policies for stalling the peace process and claims that Palestinians rarely incite terror attacks.
The claims are coming under fierce criticism from pro-Israel advocates and have prompted one leading member of Congress to formally call on the Trump administration to amend the report to more accurately reflect the situation.

McMasters, Tillerson, and Mattis should all be fired, in that order, with the possibility that the later two will learn from the first firing and correct themselves.

They're disasters. It's interesting that the Establishment GOPe took such comfort in the appointments of McMasters and Mattis, when most of the people I trust told me they were disasters from the moment they were named.

Posted by: Ace at 05:32 PM

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1 What is this,under stomp?

Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2017 04:29 PM (rmVvL)

2 Not to interrupt the State-Department bashing, but from what I could tell from the article, the report was published in 2016. That would be pre-Tillerson, right?

Posted by: Mastiff at July 20, 2017 04:31 PM (lnHpu)

3 Those are solid names

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 20, 2017 04:31 PM (2euXD)

4 Whoa.

Time machine is fuckin up.

Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2017 04:31 PM (8XRCm)

5 Hm. Never heard from anyone that Mattis was a bad idea.

I won't say he's set my world on fire, but I've never heard anything said about his competence before he took office.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 04:32 PM (3OIiX)

6 This report is the predictable result of appointing an establishment robot like Tillerson Sec of State. Tillerson could have stopped it, but did not. Because he has been marinating in this establishment horseshit for his entire career.

Who appointed Tillerson? That's the guy you should blame for this disgusting report.

BTW, your orange-haired hero appointed Tillerson at the recommendation of --- Bob Gates, the uber-establishment SecDef to both W and Obama. Garbage in, Garbage out.

Posted by: djf at July 20, 2017 04:35 PM (EYicl)

7 Mattis, McMasters, and Tillerson are the best appointments Trump's made. I wouldn't fuck with any of those.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 20, 2017 05:23 PM (2euXD)

8 Oh for pete's sake!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2017 05:24 PM (NOIQH)

9 I think it's a stretch to lay this at Tillerson's feet given the known challenges he faces within his own department. We need to see how he handles it.

Why are you dragging McMaster and Mattis into this? How are they involved?

Posted by: Mx4 at July 20, 2017 05:24 PM (sirCj)

10 in before 10?

Posted by: DanMan at July 20, 2017 05:24 PM (XTiHL)

11 Ah...good to have you back, thread.

*Pats thread on the head*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 05:25 PM (3OIiX)

12 guaranteed lifetime tenure and a political class too cowardly to put them in their places. Or better yet out of their places.

Wrong. It's good show State.

Posted by: Your Betters at July 20, 2017 05:25 PM (Q0dwZ)

13 I told people to slow their roll on Lap Dog Mattis right off the bat. His tenure thus far has failed to convince me he's any different from the rest of the political hacks in uniform at the Pentagon.

Posted by: Former MSM journalist, active Moron at July 20, 2017 05:25 PM (fJuD+)

14 Not trying to out anyone, Ace, but who did you talk to that told you that about McMaster and Mattis?

Frankly, though I quibble about some of his decisions, Tillerson is doing all right. SocState is always a squishy position in every administration since Dulles left.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 05:26 PM (3OIiX)

15 Wouldn't most of the work for this report had been done prior to Tillerson and the others appointments? Id wait and see how they handled it in the aftermath before passing judgment.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 20, 2017 05:26 PM (+dsLj)

16 Ah, Ace, ol buddy, ol pal...

after the CBS reporter mess yesterday, you still wanna go with this?

'cause the names you posted are working to turn the ship. It'll take time.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:27 PM (MINbv)

17 State has always been packed with progressives, and stay that way regardless of who is pesident and SoS.

Drawn Foggy Bottom swamp in particular!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2017 05:27 PM (NOIQH)

18 1 Million Battered Wives with 2 Million Black Eyes Agree!

Posted by: State Department at July 20, 2017 05:27 PM (beJsD)

19 What @Lizzy said

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 05:27 PM (3OIiX)

20 Posted by: djf at July 20, 2017 04:35 PM (EYicl)

**************

Oh go fuck yourself, you silly little bitch.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 20, 2017 05:27 PM (+dsLj)

21 Mattis?

Mattis is the shit.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 20, 2017 05:28 PM (17QyB)

22 This is new

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at July 20, 2017 05:28 PM (BLzn1)

23 13 I told people to slow their roll on Lap Dog Mattis right off the bat. His tenure thus far has failed to convince me he's any different from the rest of the political hacks in uniform at the Pentagon.
Posted by: Former MSM journalist, active Moron at July 20, 2017 05:25 PM (fJuD+)

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The transgenders in the military bullshit needs to go away pronto.

The fact that female troops are being told to suck it up and drive on in regards to guys showering with them has me more than a little disappointed in Mattis.

Posted by: SMFH at July 20, 2017 05:28 PM (s5Kql)

24 >>Oh for pete's sake!!!

Masturbaitin' Pete?

I know that guy!

Posted by: garrett at July 20, 2017 05:28 PM (beJsD)

25 7 Mattis, McMasters, and Tillerson are the best appointments Trump's made. I wouldn't fuck with any of those.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 20, 2017 05:23 PM (2euXD)

I agree! If the world's worst people thought Tillerson was a tough negotiator when he represented Exxon, what must they think now that he has the full force of the USA behind him? He looks like the muppet Bald Eagle, ffs! Mattis is just amazing. Every Marine got a moto-boner when he was nominated, and I have to believe that morale boost is spreading like wildfire. Etc. Ace's calls for their termination seems a little out of left field - I certainly haven't noticed earlier concerns.

Posted by: Mx4 at July 20, 2017 05:28 PM (sirCj)

26 Bob Gates had his flaws, he didn't hold the line well, but he did a fairly good job with what he had to work with.

I think 'what he had to work with' matters. There is a limit to what you can accomplish with unhelpful subordinates and possibly worse.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 05:29 PM (3OIiX)

27 I really haven't heard anything bad about McMaster tbh but some of the things I've heard Mattis being attached too is troubling.

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at July 20, 2017 05:29 PM (BLzn1)

28 It's political cranks all the way down. Fire their asses along with Sessions.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (mcI77)

29 I'm not sure how this ties to Mattis or McMasters, is there something else they have done that I have missed because I'm pretty darn happy with what has happened with our foreign policy and the job Mattis has done with ISIS?

I have no way of knowing this but my gut tells me this is more of a case of Tillerson not even knowing what is in this report than him actively participating in it. I've seen nothing that he has done to lead me to believe he would bash Israel and support the PA.

Sounds more like rogue State Department bullshit to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (/tuJf)

30 Why are you dragging McMaster and Mattis into this? How are they involved?
Posted by: Mx4 at July 20, 2017 05:24 PM (sirCj)

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There is some evidence that their time in the Middle East caused them to go native...maybe.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (MuTTO)

31 I don't think the report has been officially released and it was put together prior to Tillerson.

Is that correct?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (TTp7P)

32 Guess our hair's on fire again.

I run in circles and scream right?

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (Enq6K)

33 It's not a swamp, it's a Quagmire!

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (lIZQs)

34 Did Louise Mensch write this?

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (MCEs2)

35 Mattis and Tillerson think Green Energy is the bomb. We don't need people like him in this admin.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (mcI77)

36 The State Department has always been a big backer of the palestinians over Israel. Nothing new from those shitbags.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (Mouru)

37 sted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (MuTTO)

Such as?

Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (BLzn1)

38 him=them

Posted by: Under Fire at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (mcI77)

39 I write to express my concern about numerous mischaracterizations found in the 2016 State Department Country Reports on Terrorism, which undermine the prospect for Israeli-Palestinian peace and wrongly blame Israel for Palestinian terrorism against Israeli civilians," Roskam writes.

2016-Before Trump was sworn in. it's an Obama debacle.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (iVOAv)

40 7
Mattis, McMasters, and Tillerson are the best appointments Trump's made. I wouldn't fuck with any of those.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 20, 2017 05:23 PM (2euXD)
Agreed.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (EgOr3)

41 >>Sounds more like rogue State Department bullshit to me.

Someone signed off on making it public / publishing it.

Find that person.

Fire them.

Then, fire their boss too.

Posted by: garrett at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (beJsD)

42 I don't think the report has been officially released and it was put together prior to Tillerson.

Is that correct?

*********************

That's my assumption. It'll be confirmed when Tillerson starts firing more people.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 20, 2017 05:32 PM (+dsLj)

43 ???

Not sure why this State Department POS is being laid at Mattis's feet? And I am sure this POS was begun under Fredo and since I doubt to many of PDT's State under picks have been confirmed yet, I'd be careful about laying to much of this even at Tillerson's feet.

I suspect in the coming days PDT will have something to say about this.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:32 PM (SjImc)

44 There is some evidence that their time in the Middle East caused them to go native...maybe.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (MuTTO)

---

Mattis going native in the ME?

No.

Mattis going native in the DC swamp?

Very likely.

Posted by: SMFH at July 20, 2017 05:32 PM (s5Kql)

45 Umm, hold off on the firings!

I read the original report!

Roskam is grandstanding! Free Bacon is waving bloody shirt!

Carry on.

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2017 05:32 PM (GuzcK)

46 Mattis is the shit.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 20, 2017 05:28 PM (17QyB)

Gabby Giffords would have been a great SecDef under President Hildabeast, don't you think?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2017 05:32 PM (Mouru)

47 *points to side-bar story*

Deep State also exists at the state level. Petty little tyrants abusing what little power that is granted to them to act like petty deities. This is how peaceful people get backed into corners that leads to bloodshed when bureaucrats take children hostage to coerce people.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 20, 2017 05:33 PM (An780)

48 Trump "disappoints" me only to the extent that he hasn't acted fast enough to dismantle the Deep State's deep bench.

Whatever Trump "does," I'm pretty much happy with. It's disappointing that he doesn't "do" enough, fast enough.

Posted by: zombie at July 20, 2017 05:33 PM (DQ4Fv)

49 >>Then, fire their boss too.

Yep.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 05:33 PM (/tuJf)

50 Has Sally Kohn hacked Ace's account?

/s

;-)

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 20, 2017 05:33 PM (ifORZ)

51 And I'm a *Sailor* saying Mattis is the shit. If the Navy - Oh dear Lord above, if - had a Leader half as shit-together, it would be unbelievable.

But, different cultures; the Navy can't/won't grow a leader like him - too bureaucratic. I've got a story, secondhand, about Navy and USMC Intelligence and the difference between them.

Posted by: FCCS(SW/AW) Jeff Weimer, USN (ret) at July 20, 2017 05:33 PM (17QyB)

52 willowed:

Great, great stuff!!!
Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 05:22 PM (EgOr3)

Thank you, Peaches, but all I did was a little cutting and pasting.

Thomas Wictor is one of the most interesting presences on Twitter and every conservative who is also on Twitter should be following him.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 20, 2017 05:34 PM (WIgTw)

53 Is it a phase of the moon thing?

Cause it's looking like It's time... It's time... It's time, to lose your shit!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2017 05:34 PM (wB8Tg)

54 Ace's calls for their termination seems a little out of left field - I certainly haven't noticed earlier concerns."

Yeah, I'm a bit worried about the ewok - taking the media spin on something just isn't cricket...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:34 PM (MINbv)

55 Mattis, McMasters, and Tillerson are the best appointments Trump's made. I wouldn't fuck with any of those.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 20, 2017 05:23 PM (2euXD)

Good appointments, yeah. I haven't seen anything that makes me want to set my hair on fire and run around in a circle.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 20, 2017 05:34 PM (EgwCt)

56 I'm glad to know we're still #winning, because it feels like we're losing.

Posted by: 13times at July 20, 2017 05:34 PM (WHVu+)

57 It takes time to reverse 8 years of left wing fuckery even at the Pentagon. Mattis is still A-OK in my book. If you expected him to come in with a wrecking ball, then you did not understand him or the task at hand.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:35 PM (SjImc)

58 16 Ah, Ace, ol buddy, ol pal...

after the CBS reporter mess yesterday, you still wanna go with this?

'cause the names you posted are working to turn the ship. It'll take time.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:27 PM (MINbv)

I missed the "CBS reporter mess". What was that about?

Posted by: girldog at July 20, 2017 05:35 PM (j0ZqD)

59 This is an officially released report. It is retrospective of 2016 terrorism country reports.

Just published today.

Roskam is a fervent Israel booster and there is nothing wrong with that, but he is protesting way too much.

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2017 05:35 PM (GuzcK)

60 46 Mattis is the shit.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 20, 2017 05:28 PM (17QyB)

Gabby Giffords would have been a great SecDef under President Hildabeast, don't you think?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2017 05:32 PM (Mouru)

If we are lucky she will replace McCain.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 20, 2017 05:35 PM (P/kVC)

61 30 There is some evidence that their time in the Middle East caused them to go native...maybe.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (MuTTO)

What evidence? Mattis saying "it's fun to shoot some people?" The magnificent job his Marines did in Helmand? IDK about McMaster but "there's some evidence...maybe" sounds about right. There's some evidence maybe for lots of things these days.

Posted by: Mx4 at July 20, 2017 05:35 PM (sirCj)

62 Antisemitism knows no bounds

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2017 05:35 PM (9g/6M)

63 Has Ace eaten today because he can get a little cranky when he's three or four days gone?

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 20, 2017 05:36 PM (G8R7y)

64 SMFH

Good day, young land. *Doffs Fedora*

The sad news is we are not a serious country. If Mattis runs aground, we have nothing. He is our best.

Perchance his staff is not the best. If they are hold-overs from pbho, then we know those people are deluded parvenus with Daddy and control issues; daily proving they have an ability / self___ mismatch.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2017 05:36 PM (hyuyC)

65 But, different cultures; the Navy can't/won't grow a leader like him - too bureaucratic. I've got a story, secondhand, about Navy and USMC Intelligence and the difference between them.

Posted by: FCCS(SW/AW) Jeff Weimer, USN (ret) at July 20, 2017 05:33 PM (17QyB)

I think this is an Army joke:

Q: Why are Marines transported on the Navy's ships?

A: So the sailors will have dance partners.

Ho ho ho. Bet that's the first time you've heard that one, huh?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 20, 2017 05:36 PM (WIgTw)

66 Such as?
Posted by: thathalfrican - back at it at July 20, 2017 05:31 PM (BLzn1)

------------------------------------------------

Here are just three headlines from a simple google search.

(1) Trump's new national security adviser: Saying 'radical Islamic terrorism' is counterproductive. (Business Insider Feb. 25, 2017)

(2) Trump's New Adviser Is Known for Respecting Muslims (Bloomberg Feb. 21, 2017)

(3) James Mattis Should Focus On Islamic Terror Instead Of Palestinian Grievances (The Federalist May 9, 2017)

Posted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2017 05:36 PM (MuTTO)

67 Putin, you magnificent bastard! Is there anything you can't engineer?

Posted by: ShainS at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (9S1C9)

68 Tillerson is the only one that's really trying to drain his part of the swamp. As someone upthread mentioned, it may have been written and approved before Tillerson was even nominated. We also have to remember that there's a quite large time lapse between Election Day and the inauguration.

The was a flurry of fuck-you,-Trump edicts coming from many of the different departments during that time.

I'd like to see the original time stamp on this report.

Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (Fmupd)

69 Oops, I had an i m g problem. Change the last word to performance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (hyuyC)

70 Wasn't this post here earlier, or am I going dizzy from the heat?

Posted by: Country Boy at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (HX6z6)

71 I can't believe that fuckwit McCain is still whining about Trump from his hospital bed. Zero sympathy for that POS.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (+dsLj)

72 Guess our hair's on fire again.

I run in circles and scream right?
Posted by: Tami

Clockwise.
Because I'm going counter-clockwise.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (W4LFA)

73 Well, I guess Israel is partly to blame for palestinian terrorism, I mean they refused to all march into the sea and die. They keep stubbornly surviving and refusing to give up all the land and riches. If they'd just die and will all their money and goods to palestinians, the terrorism would go away!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (39g3+)

74 Firing the people who wrote the report would be a good start.

I'll guarantee they were here before Jan 20.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (oVJmc)

75 "It's interesting that the Establishment GOPe took such comfort in the
appointments of McMasters and Mattis, when most of the people I trust
told me they were disasters from the moment they were named."

I was among those who harbored high hopes for Mattis. They've largely been dashed.

I was particularly put off by the comment by Mattis to Congress about how if they didn't fully fund the State Department's diplomatic efforts, there weren't going to be any cost savings, because they would be having to buy more ammo for DoD instead.

Whereas the reality is that the striped-pants popinjays at Foggy Bottom have, over the existence of their department, helped get America into a bunch of needless fights, and have needlessly prolonged needful fights.

We'd all be better off if State's entire arrogant brain trust of senior FSOs were put out to pasture, and the department shrunken down to a skeleton crew performing only the minimally necessary diplomatic functions. No need to have a sprawling foreign policy apparatus full of think-tank wanks if one "goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy".

Posted by: torquewrench at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (ujwCG)

76 There's some evidence maybe for lots of things these days.

Posted by: Mx4 at July 20, 2017 05:35 PM (sirCj)

I think pretty much everybody needs to take a couple of days off to find their feces, that's what I think.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2017 05:38 PM (wB8Tg)

77 Tillerson is the only one that's really trying to drain his part of the swamp.

I don't know whats goig on behind the scenes, but its pretty obvious the Veteran's Administration is working hard to clear up things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:38 PM (39g3+)

78 I think this is an Army joke:
Q: Why are Marines transported on the Navy's ships?
A: So the sailors will have dance partners.
Ho ho ho. Bet that's the first time you've heard that one, huh?

In a similar vein:

Q: Why does the Navy put Marines on ships?
A: Because sheep would be way too obvious.

I know, I know, I can run but I'll just die tired.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 20, 2017 05:38 PM (SGFoV)

79 OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader

One thing the US Navy, US Army, and the US Marine Corps all agree on is the US Air Force.

** rimshot **

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2017 05:38 PM (hyuyC)

80 i hear all this stuff about these guys all being piles of shit. i never hear who would be better. i don't read the slanted media, so maybe i'm not seeing the big picture. sounds like ace is channeling my son. i don't discuss politics with him either.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2017 05:38 PM (KP5rU)

81 I missed the "CBS reporter mess". What was that about?

It was the civil asset forfeiture post. A CBSette posted some wild stuff about a new DoJ policy but when you clicked through to the document that wasn't what it said at all.

Ace's headline was her accusation.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (gIRsn)

82 That darn Israel; constantly punching Palestinian hands with their faces.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (6jaju)

83 I missed the "CBS reporter mess". What was that about?"

CBS reporter claimed that new DOJ guidelines allowed all sorts of s... stuff. Turned out new DOJ guidelines didn't.

Much hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (MINbv)

84 The State Department is facing harsh criticism for claiming in an official report that Israel is to blame for terrorism attacks committed by Palestinians and accusing the Jewish state of being largely responsible for an impasse in peace negotiations, according to a leading member of Congress who is calling on the State Department to correct its "inaccurate and harmful" characterization of Israel.

Sounds like John Kerry is still Secretary of State.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (WIgTw)

85 The National Park Service, the service that explains how to avoid confrontation with a bear, is now advising the State Department on Palestinian attacks on Jews.

https://www.nps.gov/subjects/bears/safety.htm

Do not make eye contact.
Speak softly and back away to a safe space.
Tell the Palestinian that you are human and mean him no harm.
Do not feed the Palestinian.
Avoid areas where Palestinians are known to frequent.

If the Palestinian attacks, drop to the ground and play dead. Cover the back of your neck and head with your arms. Do not scream or fight back.

Posted by: Malthe Leftwrench at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (m9X4Y)

86 Ace must have had a bad day. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (SjImc)

87 I am disappointed by how few people have been fired by Trump. I mean that was all I ever saw of the apprentice was the promos with "You're fired"

But that said, Dubya did damn little cleaning up after BJC loaded agencies with commie trash and then Barky made huge messes everywhere so cleaning up government is akin to cleaning the Agean Stables (sp?)

If the bloody GOP congress would let Trump use a river it would help. I have been cheered by the bits of progress made so far (I watch a bit on OAN(N?) so I get a bit real info that the FNM would never let me hear since they don't want a Trump supporter hearing any news we'll like.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (eASYU)

88 It takes time to reverse 8 years of left wing fuckery

Or 16, 24, or really 28 of being fucked like a stray dog.

Posted by: gNewt at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (Q0dwZ)

89 The slate should have been wiped clean on DT's first day

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (9g/6M)

90 At this point, just tell which way to aim as the list of adversaries is getting larger and larger. My other option is just to be a free lance ninja.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (TTp7P)

91 I wish someone from government would give me a "reset" button because I sure as hell would hit it.

Perhaps even better and E-Stop.

Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (KN0PF)

92 82 That darn Israel; constantly punching Palestinian hands with their faces.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (6jaju)

Exactly. Why can't all the Israelis just line up to be shot and be quick about it?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (WIgTw)

93 It's just a stupid report, for God's sake. Outside in the real world Mattis, Tillerson, and McMaster have been doing a damn good job at doing important things. Are we supposed to decapitate ourselves whenever randos in the Deep State burps up something offensive?

Let's maybe stop demanding we fire the people we just hired, and start demanding congress get off their asses and start appointing more people.

Posted by: GalosGann at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (md1b/)

94 Sounds like John Kerry is still Secretary of State.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (WIgTw)

I am sure this whole POS IS from the kerry era....gov reports like this take years to write...this was NOT done in the last few months

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (SjImc)

95 2016? Yeah someone is trying to slip a dagger or two between the ribs on the cheap and in the shadows.

SMFH, remember the female general who gave us Abu Gharib was a Clinton appointment.

How many sub-par Admirals did the US Navy have before Guadalcanal? Plenty. Case in point "Even ships fire... Odd ships fire..." Great command on TBS when you are already in a night engagement with the Japanese.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (An780)

96 FWIW, here's the actual report, and perhaps someone can find what the linked "reporter" claims to have read:

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2016/272232.htm

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (MINbv)

97 Terror twat Linda Sarsour out on the Jews.

https://tinyurl.com/y8oc7eak

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (Nwg0u)

98 89
The slate should have been wiped clean on DT's first day

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (9g/6M)

Yep, there's no excuse for it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (UBzPO)

99 I run in circles and scream right?

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (Enq6K)

Well, real Moronettes tear their shirts off too....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (wYseH)

100 64 SMFH

Good day, young land. *Doffs Fedora*

The sad news is we are not a serious country. If Mattis runs aground, we have nothing. He is our best.

Perchance his staff is not the best. If they are hold-overs from pbho, then we know those people are deluded parvenus with Daddy and control issues; daily proving they have an ability / self___ mismatch.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 20, 2017 05:36 PM (hyuyC)

---

I love Mattis, and I'm pretty sure he has a fuckton of holdovers from Fuckstick's admin.

Still, I have a huge problem with the troops still being peddled this tranny shit.

Posted by: SMFH at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (s5Kql)

101 Q: Why does the Navy put Marines on ships?
A: Because sheep would be way too obvious.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 20, 2017 05:38 PM (SGFoV)

I LOLed!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (WIgTw)

102 You're... blaming the Secretary of Defense... for what? Even the Secretary of *State* has little to do with these kinds of routine reports. And that things like this are put out is *useful* because it tells you where to find some rats to drown.

Calm down.

Posted by: Apostate at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (n1dE4)

103 The State department has always been like this. It will never change.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (rZ+mb)

104 I run in circles and scream right?

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (Enq6K)

Well, real Moronettes tear their shirts off too....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (wYseH)

I find myself suddenly intrigued by this plan.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (3OIiX)

105 >>>I can't believe that fuckwit McCain is still whining about Trump from his hospital bed. Zero sympathy for that POS.

I've basically had to force myself not to comment on anything about McCain. I just don't trust myself.

Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (q177U)

106 So true Anna.

Posted by: SMFH at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (s5Kql)

107 It must be the heat wave, makes me grumpy too.

Don't let the fake news get ya down.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (hMwEB)

108 Are we supposed to decapitate ourselves whenever randos in the Deep State burps up something offensive?

Apparently, yeah. Manic depressive ain't in it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (39g3+)

109 The slate should have been wiped clean on DT's first day

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (9g/6M)

Yep, there's no excuse for it.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (UBzPO)

Yeah? How about having Congress do it's job and confirm people instead of running around yelling Russia Russia Russia all day.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (SjImc)

110 Let's maybe stop demanding we fire the people we just hired, and start demanding congress get off their asses and start appointing more people."

There's no math nor reasonable commentary on this here smart military blog, dontchaknow

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (MINbv)

111 Put those D-9s blade to blade and drive west.
Low and slow.

Posted by: gNewt at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (Q0dwZ)

112 91
I wish someone from government would give me a "reset" button because I sure as hell would hit it.

Perhaps even better and E-Stop.

Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (KN0PF)

What the F do you think electing Trump was? He was elected to press the reset button. For some reason he won't even though they're predictably trying to burn him at the stake.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (UBzPO)

113 I won't say he's set my world on fire...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 04:32 PM (3OIiX)

No. But some think he may.

Deterrence. It's a helluva drug.

Posted by: golfman at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (48QDY)

114 The State department has always been like this. It will never change.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (rZ+mb)

Yup, especially not overnight

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (SjImc)

115 101 Q: Why does the Navy put Marines on ships?
A: Because sheep would be way too obvious.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 20, 2017 05:38 PM (SGFoV)

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And another email to Daddy is off!

hehehe

Posted by: SMFH at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (s5Kql)

116 105 >>>I can't believe that fuckwit McCain is still whining about Trump from his hospital bed. Zero sympathy for that POS.

I've basically had to force myself not to comment on anything about McCain. I just don't trust myself.
Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (q177U)

If he continues to be a dick after goodwill was shown to him, fuck 'em.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (TTp7P)

117 It's a story with zero attributions other than Roskum who is howling about how bad it is. It being "mischaracterizations found in the 2016 State Department Country Reports on Terrorism".

Trump took office in 2017.

I think the reporter Adam Kredo, he of comic book adoration may have more to do with the tone of this story than is needed.

Posted by: DanMan at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (XTiHL)

118 I am going to guess this is a Barky / Pantsuit memo that some bonespanker in State has waited until now to release, to cause a big internet stink.

this is not a firing offence for Tillerson, Mattis, or McMaster. it is a firing offence for the asshole who let this turd float back up.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (plBbK)

119 Ace posts something great:
Woo we're winning! Dems are a dead party! Suck it, sjws, my schadenboner reaches Alpha Centauri!

Ace posts some bad news:
We're so screwed! I'm stockpiling ammo and guns! Civil war! Its just a matter of when!

Its like living with teenage girls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (39g3+)

120 I am going to guess this is a Barky / Pantsuit memo that some bonespanker in State has waited until now to release, to cause a big internet stink.

this is not a firing offence for Tillerson, Mattis, or McMaster. it is a firing offence for the asshole who let this turd float back up.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (plBbK)

yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (SjImc)

121 One of the arguments against term limits is that un-term limited Congressmen will serve as a check against an all powerful bureaucracy.

Guess experimental data proves that incorrect.

Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (KN0PF)

122 Let's maybe stop demanding we fire the people we
just hired, and start demanding congress get off their asses and start
appointing more people.

Posted by: GalosGann at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (md1b/)

Bullshit. Trump was elected to clear out all the careerists who have brought us to the disaster(s) we're currently faced with. He could have done so on Day 1.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 05:45 PM (UBzPO)

123 Looks like we need some more housecleaning at the Department of Deep State.

Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2017 05:45 PM (eLttb)

124 Let's maybe stop demanding we fire the people we
just hired, and start demanding congress get off their asses and start
appointing more people.

Posted by: GalosGann at July 20, 2017 05:40 PM (md1b/)

Bullshit. Trump was elected to clear out all the careerists who have brought us to the disaster(s) we're currently faced with. He could have done so on Day 1.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 05:45 PM (UBzPO)

No wrong. You can't just fire people wholesale till you have replacements, or at least replacements on the horizon.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (SjImc)

125 I guess Israel is partly to blame for palestinian terrorism

-
It takes two to blow up a pizzaria; one to eat pizza and one to set off the bomb.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (Nwg0u)

126 Ace posts something great:
Woo we're winning! Dems are a dead party! Suck it, sjws, my schadenboner reaches Alpha Centauri!

Ace posts some bad news:
We're so screwed! I'm stockpiling ammo and guns! Civil war! Its just a matter of when!

Its like living with teenage girls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (39g3+)

...so...hot then?

/jk

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (3OIiX)

127 Its like living with teenage girls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017

Go on ...

Posted by: Your neighborhood perv at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (ifORZ)

128 86
Ace must have had a bad day. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (SjImc)
Dude might want to just eat real food on a regular, daily basis. I've read a few of those gainzzzzz (sp?) threads and, while I'm not going to comment or pass judgment, I find them quite worrisome. I have much love for our ewok.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (EgOr3)

129 "Roskam is grandstanding! Free Bacon is waving bloody shirt! "

I agree with blaster until further evidence is provided.

Posted by: DanMan at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (XTiHL)

130 Sometimes I think ace is posting stuff just to rile people up and get content rather than anything he really is passionate about any more. And that makes me sad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (39g3+)

131 Still, I have a huge problem with the troops still being peddled this tranny shit.

Posted by: SMFH at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (s5Kql)

In case anyone is curious, here's the actual slide decks for tranny training.
https://tinyurl.com/ya9784fa

Posted by: Country Singer at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (yzxic)

132 My
A$$
Rides
In
Navy
Equipment

That is always a classic.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 20, 2017 05:47 PM (An780)

133 What I do think we should do is shut the State department down 4 days a week. They only need 3 working days to do whatever bullshit it is that they do. They won't be able to print up 250,000 visas for muzzies and America-haters (and all of their relatives, step-relations, in-laws, grandparents, cousins, ...) Save some money and have State only opened on Tues, Wed, Thurs. And only for bankers' hours.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 20, 2017 05:47 PM (rZ+mb)

134
This report doesn't jive with what Nikki Haley has been saying at the U.N.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 20, 2017 05:48 PM (lKyWE)

135 71 I can't believe that fuckwit McCain is still whining about Trump from his hospital bed. Zero sympathy for that POS.
Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 20, 2017 05:37 PM (+dsLj)

Take the brain, leave the tumor. He'd be much better off.

Posted by: Ben Carson, neurosugeon extrordinaire at July 20, 2017 05:48 PM (lIZQs)

136 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:44 PM (39g3+)

Not true CT, we have never stopped talking about being screwed in spite of Trump's election. It's the positive attitudes which are rarer.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 20, 2017 05:48 PM (TTp7P)

137 Black and white Husky puppy out on the sidewalk.

I need to go down and ask it's opinion on all this.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 20, 2017 05:48 PM (3OIiX)

138 @ 133

Newsletter.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 20, 2017 05:48 PM (ifORZ)

139 It takes two to blow up a pizzaria; one to eat pizza and one to set off the bomb.

Exactly, its the logic of that bitch has to take some of the blame for why I caved her teeth in, she should'a cooked a steak

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (39g3+)

140 In case anyone is curious, here's the actual slide decks for tranny training.
https://tinyurl.com/ya9784fa

Not interested in training to become a tranny.

/joke. It's a joke. Word play.

Posted by: Malthe Leftwrench at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (m9X4Y)

141 I'm off to ukulele club.

We're gonna do Jason Mraz "I'm yours" for which the first line "You done done me and you bet I felt it" ought to be sung by McMasters, Tillerson, and Mattis.

Together, as a trio, at the group firing.

Posted by: We you bitchez, nigga at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (U6f54)

142 *has light bulb go off*

Since 32 hours is defined as full time, reduce the State Department work week to reflect that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (An780)

143 McMaster's is a tool. Won't release who did unmasking to Congressional investigators and sealed up documents in the Obama "library".

Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (KN0PF)

144 "I've basically had to force myself not to comment on anything about McCain. I just don't trust myself.
Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (q177U) "

ditto

Posted by: DanMan at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (XTiHL)

145 Was the "deep state" responsible for everything that sucked about Obama? How about the chief Muckity-Muck gets around to replacing people in key positions instead of constant twitter dipshittery?

Posted by: Joe at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (wzmyO)

146 63
Has Ace eaten today because he can get a little cranky when he's three or four days gone?

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 20, 2017 05:36 PM (G8R7y)

Someone give him a Snickers.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (Enq6K)

147 122: have you really looked at the congress and senate? trump just can't install whoever. those useless chicken fuckers have to approve everybody. trump hired guys that he expected to clean out the shithouse. eight years of shitting on the floor and smearing it on the walls will take a bit of time.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (KP5rU)

148 Not true CT, we have never stopped talking about being screwed in spite of Trump's election

Yeah some have been very consistent but good lord.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:50 PM (39g3+)

149 *wonders if the ewok is playing with us - you know, up one week, down the next, just to see the commentary and such*

Nah, that'd be crazy talk.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:50 PM (MINbv)

150 have you really looked at the congress and senate? trump just can't install whoever.

Union contracts aside, only the top people have to be approved by congress. The pool secretary is just a hire.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:51 PM (39g3+)

151 If Trump could sign an executive order ending government unions...all the shit stops...stone cold.

Pour bleach into the swamp, Trump. Do it. Do it now!

JKF signed an executive order (1098

in 1962 that unionized government employees.

I hope Trump gets pissed off enough to end it.

Free at last, free at last.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at July 20, 2017 05:51 PM (4+E7R)

152 FWIW, here's the actual report, and perhaps someone can find what the linked "reporter" claims to have read:

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2016/272232.htm

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (MINbv)

I read the entire Israel/Palestine sections and all references to Israel.

Ace, YOU BEEN HAD.

There was one paragraph on settler violence (no fatalities), and one paragraph *explicitly* referring to Palestinian belief that Israel was "existing too hard."

On the undeniable authority of Having Read The Damned Thing, I am officially declaring this Fake News.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2017 05:51 PM (wB8Tg)

153 >>>Sometimes I think ace is posting stuff just to rile people up and get content rather than anything he really is passionate about any more. And that makes me sad.

But on days he's inspired he's writing these incredible well thought out articles. Bam! One after another, every hour. Some days are an embarrassment of riches.

Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2017 05:51 PM (q177U)

154 148 Not true CT, we have never stopped talking about being screwed in spite of Trump's election

Yeah some have been very consistent but good lord.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:50 PM (39g3+)

I understand what you're saying in that it's not just disappointment but immediate indictment of the worse charges. I get that.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 20, 2017 05:52 PM (TTp7P)

155 Cleanup on aisle 141. How the hell does that get in here?

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 05:52 PM (EgOr3)

156 152,

Thank you. I couldn't find the bloody shirt either. Bizarre, no?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:52 PM (MINbv)

157 99
I run in circles and scream right?

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 05:30 PM (Enq6K)

Well, real Moronettes tear their shirts off too....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2017 05:41 PM (wYseH)

Oh ok...brb...going to get a shirt to put on to tear off.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (Enq6K)

158 The number one rule everyone should have learned by now is this: if you see a news story, rumor, or report that casts the Trump administration in a bad light, 9 times out of 9.2, its false or distorted.

How many freaking times have people screamed over some idiotic nonsense being bandied around? Romney is gonna be secretary of state!!! AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (39g3+)

159 Lots of crazy stuff going on or bubbling up seemingly every day from every direction. Trying to take a deep breath on just about everything and let a day or two pass before hyperventilating.

Still trying to process the cop that shot the lady a couple of days ago.

Posted by: RM at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (U3LtS)

160 Merovign is usually right.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (plBbK)

161 150; doubt trump is hiring and firing pool secretaries.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (KP5rU)

162 That's

JKF signed an executive order 10988

Posted by: The Media Suxs at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (4+E7R)

163 nood

Posted by: TexasDan at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (yL25O)

164 This is a retrospective report on 2016. It was published today.

A Republican congressman wrote a letter that was critical of the reports on Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

For example, this part:

Continued drivers of violence included a lack of hope in achieving Palestinian statehood, Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank, settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, the perception that the Israeli government was changing the status quo on the Haram Al Sharif/Temple Mount, and IDF tactics that the Palestinians considered overly aggressive.

You may not agree with them, but they are definitely all "justifications" proffered by Palestinians for their terrorism. Just like Al Qaeda put the blame for their war on the US for US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia. Does acknowledging that they made that argument justify it or give it credence? Does it mean that you are blaming the US for 9/11? No.

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (GuzcK)

165
@152

There is no evidence that the report listed in comment #131 is the report that the congressman in the news article was complaining about.

Posted by: Malthe Leftwrench at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (m9X4Y)

166 Cleanup on aisle 141. How the hell does that get in here?

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 05:52 PM (EgOr3)

Right? That ukulele talk is just gay.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (aMlLZ)

167 Merovign is usually right.

Howard Johnson is right!

Posted by: Olson Johnson at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (Mouru)

168 Merovign is usually right.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (plBbK)

does he have a tip on the daily double at Yonkers tonight?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (SjImc)

169 Oh ok...brb...going to get a shirt to put on to tear off."

WAIT, WHAT??????

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (MINbv)

170 OT and stolen from Twatter: To the Democrats, we're all just ingredients for Soylent Green.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (Nwg0u)

171 >>Bullshit. Trump was elected to clear out all the careerists who have brought us to the disaster(s) we're currently faced with. He could have done so on Day 1.

Unfortunately, no he can't. He has fired quite a few people including just about all of the US Attorneys and very publicly the FBI Director, but they are political appointees. Once you get into civil servants it is a whole new ballgame. And look at the shit he is getting for dumping Comey who almost nobody likes, even the left.

There were always going to be bumps with both draining the swamp and having an administration that has some of the least elected governance as a group in one hell of a long time.

People need to chill just a tad. The left and the deep state have fighting Trump from day 1 with leaks and slow walking almost every single appointment. This was never going to be a 6 month turnaround. Six years won't even be enough.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (/tuJf)

172 Merovign is usually right.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (plBbK)

Don't go setting up expectations now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (wB8Tg)

173 "I've basically had to force myself not to comment on anything about McCain. I just don't trust myself.
Posted by: Max Power at July 20, 2017 05:42 PM (q177U) "

ditto
Posted by: DanMan

As it has been said, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Trying to stick with that.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2017 05:55 PM (W4LFA)

174 DC was a pile of shit before Fredo got there. But he and his regime went all Harambe and started smearing on everything. Has anyone tried to clean old smeared shit? It's not easy.

Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2017 05:55 PM (Fmupd)

175 Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 20, 2017 05:49 PM (KP5rU)

Yes, this! We're not in a sprint here, we're in a marathon. And I personally feel like Trump is doing a lot of great things and as well or better than can be expected in the Time of Obstructionism from Every Side, Including His Own.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 05:55 PM (EgOr3)

176 Ace, this post is like The Perils of Pauline....

You just massacred the Secretary of Defense, The Secretary of State and the National Security Asshole ....in ONE sentence, more or less, and THAT's IT?

May be we should crowdsource for the REST of the story?

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 20, 2017 05:55 PM (oBuXO)

177
Go clutch your pearls and enjoy the FUCK right out of it.

Back sometime later.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 20, 2017 05:55 PM (S/hVx)

178 Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (Enq6K)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2017 05:55 PM (wYseH)

179 96. Anon
Are you certain this is the report?
Scanning it doesn't turn up anything "hair setting afire" worthy.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 20, 2017 05:56 PM (N3JsI)

180 What the F do you think electing Trump was? He was elected to press the reset button. For some reason he won't even though they're predictably trying to burn him at the stake.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 05:43 PM (UBzPO)

-----------

True. Perhaps he wants the problem to fester until a couple of million people show up in DC demanding to drain the swamp.

Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 05:56 PM (KN0PF)

181 Howard Johnson is right!

Olsen Johnson is right about Howard Johnson!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 20, 2017 05:56 PM (39g3+)

182 Merovign is usually right.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (plBbK)

Don't go setting up expectations now.
Posted by: Merovign

I agree with Boulder terlit hobo Johnson!
Posted by: Big Johnson

Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2017 05:56 PM (W4LFA)

183 @179 yes it is the report, and no, there is no hair setting afire stuff in it.

Posted by: blaster at July 20, 2017 05:57 PM (GuzcK)

184 Can't stop The Agenda, Mal.

Posted by: Zombie Mr. Universe at July 20, 2017 05:57 PM (rznWS)

185 174 DC was a pile of shit before Fredo got there. But he and his regime went all Harambe and started smearing on everything. Has anyone tried to clean old smeared shit? It's not easy.
Posted by: Soona at July 20, 2017 05:55 PM (Fmupd)

-----

Pressure washer time.

Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 05:57 PM (KN0PF)

186 There is no evidence that the report listed in comment #131 is the report that the congressman in the news article was complaining about.

Posted by: Malthe Leftwrench at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (m9X4Y)

So you're saying he was complaining about the *other* 2016 State Department Country Reports on Terrorism.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2017 05:57 PM (wB8Tg)

187 Mattis is the best we have had in that job in a very long time.

Balloon goes up, Trump turns it over to Mattis to execute operations.

It will be quick, violent and decisive.

Posted by: Charles Martel at July 20, 2017 05:58 PM (ND2vc)

188 Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 05:54 PM (/tuJf)

What's the name of that Boston fish joint you were raving about?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2017 05:58 PM (wYseH)

189 Still trying to process the Muslim Somali cop that shot the lady a couple of days ago.

Posted by: RM at July 20, 2017 05:53 PM (U3LtS)
fify . . . and, yeah, I'd really like to know wtf is up with that?

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 05:58 PM (EgOr3)

190 Wait WTF this goes up and quietly gets stomped?

Seriously?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2017 06:01 PM (wB8Tg)

191 If there is one weakness Trump has it's his hiring ability or rather the people he trusted to present him with viable candidates who actually want to MAGA.

Unfortunately, with people like Chris Christie on his transition team there are way too many NeverTrumpers in his orbit.

I think even he is shocked at the deterioration of our system. He most likely expected that once he was inaugurated a lot of this bullshit would die down and our country could at least function at least partially normally.

Now we've had a silent coup running for seven months. Even inadvertently aided by his own people - see Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at July 20, 2017 06:01 PM (4+E7R)

192 >>What's the name of that Boston fish joint you were raving about?

You mean Island Creek Oyster Bar in Kenmore Square?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 06:01 PM (/tuJf)

193 I'm either stayin' here or going elsewhere, Mero. I don't give a happy fuck about AlGore.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:02 PM (EgOr3)

194 No wrong. You can't just fire people wholesale till you have replacements, or at least replacements on the horizon.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (SjImc)

Most of these people don't need to be replaced.

Also, disposing of them and doing nothing is better than doing bad.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 20, 2017 06:02 PM (D2vc1)

195 190
Wait WTF this goes up and quietly gets stomped?

Seriously?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 20, 2017 06:01 PM (wB8Tg)

Ikr?! I just got back after putting on a shirt to tear off, I'm running in circles, my hair's on fire and poof....everyone is gone.

I'm not tearing my shirt off on a Al Gore post. No way. That's just weird.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 06:03 PM (Enq6K)

196 81 I missed the "CBS reporter mess". What was that about?

It was the civil asset forfeiture post. A CBSette posted some wild stuff about a new DoJ policy but when you clicked through to the document that wasn't what it said at all.

Ace's headline was her accusation.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2017 05:39 PM (gIRsn)

Aaaahhh. I did miss that. I accepted the CBS report too. Dumb me. I should know better by now.

Posted by: girldog at July 20, 2017 06:03 PM (j0ZqD)

197 96,
"FWIW, here's the actual report, and perhaps someone can find what the linked "reporter" claims to have read:
"

Just go to the section labeled, "Countering Violent Extremism" about halfway down the page linked.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 20, 2017 06:03 PM (d3wbb)

198 "He was elected to press the reset button. For some reason he won't even though they're predictably trying to burn him at the stake."

I think he is very slowly getting to the No More Mister Nice Guy Phase.

He tried it their way. Soon he will try it his way. That or he's done.

Trump hates losing. I bank on Trump.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at July 20, 2017 06:04 PM (4+E7R)

199 I'm not tearing my shirt off on a Al Gore post. No way. That's just weird.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 06:03 PM (Enq6K)
AlGore has bigger bewbs than I do. And, yeah, so funny these pantsless 'rons thing we sit here in shirts all day and all night. Bless their hearts. :-)

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:04 PM (EgOr3)

200 "What's the name of that Boston fish joint you were raving about?"

BadaBing?

Posted by: Ben Carson, neurosugeon extrordinaire at July 20, 2017 06:04 PM (lIZQs)

201 Trump could have seriously utilized his "your fired" shtick to great advantage. Start with IG reports of known wrongdoing and malfeasance and broadcast the weekly "Friday Night Firings".

Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 06:05 PM (KN0PF)

202 6. Anon
Are you certain this is the report? "

Unless there's another 2016 State Report...

Yeah, it's it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 20, 2017 06:05 PM (MINbv)

203 AlGore has bigger bewbs than I do. And, yeah, so
funny these pantsless 'rons thing we sit here in shirts all day and all
night. Bless their hearts. :-)

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:04 PM (EgOr3)

Damn, they think we wear them at night too?!

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 06:08 PM (Enq6K)

204 Damn, they think we wear them at night too?!

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 06:08 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, with our lacy garter belts and fishnet stockings and high heels.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:13 PM (EgOr3)

205 I think what Ace is talking about is Mattis and McMaster are both still under the delusion that Jihad (aka Terrorism) is not related to Islam. Mattis thinks it has something to do with Shia-Sunni split and McMaster has flatly stated Jihadist have nothing to do with Islam at all. That it is a perversion of Islam.

Some have argued that they just say stuff like this because of the military situation they are in. We have troops stuck in majority Muslim countries, and if we equate Jihadist with Islam at the government level our troops will be put in more danger.

That part is true. However, and better counter argument is made that how can we ever defeat Jihadist if we don't make the obvious theological and historical connection to Islam? Answer is you cannot, therefore Jihadist movement in the end win over time using the "lets pretend Jihad has nothing to do with Islam strategy". To defeat Jihad you must confront Islamic theology head on.

I would argue that Mattis and McMaster are good military men, but are just wrong about the best way to wage the war against Jihad. Both are influenced by Petraeus, who thought that we could fight the Iraq war the same way the British fought the Communist in Malaya.

The problem is, and has been proven again and again, is Communist insurgences and Jihad are different beasts. Communist appeal to class, ethnic and economic grievances. Islamic jihadist are appealing to paradise in heaven and also to the entrenched Islamic cultural and religious traditions of the people in the area.

A few building projects and free apartments are not going to satisfy someone influenced by the Quran and Hadith to do Holy War.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 20, 2017 06:15 PM (MuTTO)

206 Yeah, with our lacy garter belts and fishnet stockings and high heels.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:13 PM (EgOr3)

Imma have to go shopping. I need....stuff.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 20, 2017 06:16 PM (Enq6K)

207 We're just click bait to him. Ewoks can be that way.

Posted by: gNewt at July 20, 2017 06:16 PM (Q0dwZ)

208 Island Creek Oyster Bar in Kenmore Square?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 06:01 PM (/tuJf)

The great one with their own oyster beds?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2017 06:19 PM (wYseH)

209 >>The great one with their own oyster beds?

Well that one has their own oyster beds down on the South Shore but the restaurant itself is in downtown Boston.

The other one I keep saying you should go to is Matunuck Oyster Bar but that one is down near me right on their oyster beds.

http://www.rhodyoysters.com

Posted by: Bernie Madoff looking up from hell at July 20, 2017 06:23 PM (/tuJf)

210 I said on another thread that the one thing the Left hates is self-defense. That is the one form of "violence" they want stamped out. That Israel defends itself, that Israelis defend themselves is not to be tolerated by the lefty zombies left at State.

"Continued drivers of violence included a lack of hope in achieving Palestinian statehood, Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank, settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, the perception that the Israeli government was changing the status quo on the Haram Al Sharif/Temple Mount, and IDF tactics that the Palestinians considered overly aggressive. "

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 20, 2017 06:25 PM (d3wbb)

211 dammit

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 06:27 PM (/tuJf)

212 No wrong. You can't just fire people wholesale till you have replacements, or at least replacements on the horizon.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2017 05:46 PM (SjImc)

Why do they need to be replaced? What do you think "shrinking the size of an overbloated government" means? That's what I voted for.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 06:28 PM (FZInm)

213 Posted by: Bernie Madoff looking up from hell at July 20, 2017 06:23 PM (/tuJf)

They both look great!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 20, 2017 06:33 PM (wYseH)

214 Why do they need to be replaced? What do you think
"shrinking the size of an overbloated government" means? That's what I
voted for.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 06:28 PM (FZInm)
Aren't they all unionized? I don't know, so I'm asking, but I've been thinking this is part of the reason he can't just fire 'em all.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:35 PM (EgOr3)

215 >>They both look great!

When you have 10 minutes or so, watch the Ted Talk that the owner of the Matunuck Oyster Bar gives. It's on the website. He is beyond passionate about not just seafood but the aquaculture industry. They also have a farm where they grow their own produce. Everything is farm to table.

It is probably one of top oyster bars in the world. Really.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2017 06:36 PM (/tuJf)

216 201 Trump could have seriously utilized his "your fired" shtick to great advantage. Start with IG reports of known wrongdoing and malfeasance and broadcast the weekly "Friday Night Firings".
Posted by: MAGA at July 20, 2017 06:05 PM (KN0PF)

That's why people voted for him! Instead he just tweets. Now it's too late - firing everyone now makes it look like a cover-up. If he wouldve done it on Day 1 - like he was elected to do - the optics would be reversed and the crazies would look even crazier.

I suppose the blame lies with his own loyalty. There weren't many willing to work for him during the primaries and he stuck with them no matter how incompetent they've proven themselves and their advice to be.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 06:43 PM (FZInm)

217 Aren't they all unionized? I don't know, so I'm asking, but I've been thinking this is part of the reason he can't just fire 'em all.
Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:35 PM (EgOr3)

He signs one piece of paper and public sector unions disappear. Another reason I voted for him.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 06:45 PM (FZInm)

218 He signs one piece of paper and public sector unions disappear. Another reason I voted for him.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 20, 2017 06:45 PM (FZInm)
Yeah, that cannot happen soon enough for me. But, he's got a lot on his plate. I support him absolutely.

Posted by: Peaches at July 20, 2017 06:49 PM (EgOr3)

219 @46: "Gabby Giffords would have been a great SecDef under President Hildabeast, don't you think?"

Nye wike vaniwwa pudding!

Posted by: Semi-zombie Gabby Giffords at July 20, 2017 06:52 PM (rznWS)

220 Poor Ace. Short, fat, unfuckable and basically unemployable.

Meanwhile us government guys get great salaries and benefits and an unending supply of hot interns to spend our nights with.

Posted by: Life's good when you're not Ace at July 20, 2017 07:15 PM (8Ln6u)

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