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Monday Overnight Open Thread (7/17/17) Monday. Bloody Monday Edition

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(A different kind of ONT)


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Quotes of The Day

Quote I

I do not care whether you're a Democrat or you're a Republican or an independent. We must pull for the people who are wearing the uniform of the armed forces. These people weren't drafted. They enlisted, because they believe. Tommy Lasorda

Quote II

If you hear, day after day, liberals are rooting against armed forces, that is eventually going to have an effect on soldiers and troops who are actually going to believe that and it's wrong. It's just wrong. Al Franken

I guess Al never heard of this guy.


Quote III

To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace. George Washington


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Last night we covered Ann Coulter's Delta Airline fiasco. Delta Airline strikes back at Coulter.

"@AnnCoulter We're sorry you did not receive the preferred seat you paid for and will refund your $30," Delta tweeted.

"@AnnCoulter Additionally, your insults about our other customers and employees are unacceptable and unnecessary."


Hmmm, The ONT wonders if this is the last we will hear of this? Survey says?????


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The NYT, reveals that men like sex.

Yes, it’s true, the Times is running stories about men in Silicon Valley who hit on women who come to them asking for money. They’re calling it sexual harassment, even though the two people don’t work for the same company and so there’s no violation of EEOC rules.

So, first of all, people, let’s get your terminology straight—this is not employer/employee sexual harassment, as codified in federal regulations; this is a version of the old casting couch, perfected in Southern California, recently exported to NorCal in the form of venture capital firms that get pitches all day long from people trying to start tech companies. A woman comes in asking for, say, a million dollars, and the guy says, “Yeah, I might be able to do that. Wanna have dinner first?”—although, judging by the guys who got outed in the Times story, some of them don’t even bother with dinner.

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The Opioid Crisis, life and death decisions. Middletown, OH has this dilemma.

As their budgets strain, communities have begun questioning how much money and effort they should be spending to deal with overdoses, especially in cases involving people who have taken near-fatal overdoses multiple times. State and local officials say it might be time for “tough love”: pushing soaring medical costs onto drug abusers or even limiting how many times first responders can save an individual’s life.

“It’s not that I don’t want to treat overdose victims, it’s that the city cannot afford to treat overdose victims,” said Middletown Council Member Daniel Picard, noting this industrial town in northern Butler County might have to raise taxes in response to the crisis.

Often, the only thing separating whether an overdose victim goes to the hospital instead of the morgue is a dose of naloxone, also known by the brand name Narcan, a medication that can reverse the effects of opioid overdoses.

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Do dealers care about their customers? Hmmmmm...........Well, do they?


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Rationalization, what can't it do?


Curt von Badinski, a mechanical engineer and co-founder of a San Francisco-based tech company, has a six-hour daily commute from Los Angeles – most of it by plane.

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And, while von Badinski is aware that his flight comes with a significant carbon footprint, the Bay Area leg of his journey is more environmentally friendly. He keeps a plug-in hybrid vehicle at Oakland airport for the drive into San Francisco.


Isn't that special?


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Reportedly a contender for the 2020 Democratic POTUS nomination, VA Gov Terry McAuliffe is in a little hot water. Hint, had he been a Republican he would have been boiled and would have been a goner.

The American press obsession with Russia is leaving vital news on the cutting room floor.

For example, Judicial Watch is reporting that the state auditor of Mississippi is demanding that Virginia Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe’s former company, GreenTech, repay millions in public money because the electric vehicle company shut down and failed to deliver on its promises to create new jobs.

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So much for the survival of the fittest.

The Honolulu City Council has passed a law banning texting while walking.

If Mayor Kirk Caldwell signs it within the next 10 days, pedestrians in the Hawaiian city will be fined $15 to $99 for crossing the street while looking at their mobiles.

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Russia. Russia. Trump. Russia. Russia. Russia. Trump. More revelations that Hillary Clinton acted above the law.

Judicial Watch today released 448 pages of documents from the U.S. Department of State revealing new incidents of Huma Abedin, deputy chief of staff to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, providing special State Department treatment to major donors to the Clinton Foundation and political campaigns.

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Speaking of Hillary. How many trees died for her unfulfilled dream?

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Are you afflicted with Spatial injustice?

The University of California-Los Angeles is offering a technology class this summer examining how “car culture” contributes to “spatial injustice.”

The course, “LA Tech City: Digital Technologies and Spatial Injustice,” will be offered through the UCLA Digital Humanities department and will be taught by Professor Todd Presner and Professor Dana Cuff.

"The automobile has provided differential and territorial access to particular segments of [the] population."

“Students will investigate spatial justice and injustice in the multi-ethnic city through the lens of three thematic technologies,” the syllabus states, listing cars and highways, the Internet, and film and media as factors that contribute to spatial injustice.


The ONT is certainly happy that today's collegians have cured the common cold, settled the Ginger/Mary Ann debate, halted world hunger and instilled world peace between Yankee and Red Sox fans.

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Do you have a Bucket List? Is it Bucket List for night time activities?

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Just shut the fvck up you fat worthless P.O.S. Or how I really feel about Al Gore The Man Pig.

Gore said that when he met with Trump after he was elected president, he found Trump "attentive" and had a "pleasant exchange" with him when they spoke about the environment.

"I had hoped he would come to his senses on the Paris agreement, but I was wrong," said Gore, who has not spoken with Trump since the president's decision on the climate-change agreement.


His numerous prediction failures should block him from any sort of attention. Saying Al Gore will never be POTUS is almost as good as saying Hillary Clinton will never be POTUS.


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The ONT Musical Interlude


July 17, 1946, Petula Clark made her UK television debut appearing on the Cabaret TV series at the age of 13. Clark began with guest spots on radio when she was only 9 and made her first film a year later. ‘Put Your Shoes On Lucy’ was released as her debut release in 1949, her ‘The Little Shoemaker’ became her first U.K. hit in 1954. via thisdayinmusic.com


July 17, 1959, Billie Holiday died in a New York City hospital from cirrhosis of the liver after years of alcohol abuse, aged 43. (While under arrest for heroin possession, with Police officers stationed at the door to her room.) In the final years of her life, she had been progressively swindled out of her earnings, and she died with $0.70 in the bank. via thisdayinmusic.com


July 17, 1965, King Records released 'Papa's Got a Brand New Bag' by James Brown, which went on to sell over 2 million copies and receive the Grammy Award for best for Best Rhythm & Blues Recording. 'Papa's Got a Brand New Bag' is considered seminal in the emergence of funk music as a distinct style. via thisdayinmusic.com


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There is still some common sense left in Canada.

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The ONT finds this somewhat surprising. Medical marijuana preferred over opioids.

IN BRIEF

Patients managing pain vastly prefer using medical marijuana to opioid-based medications. They reported fewer side effects, and the majority found cannabis more effective.
A new study has investigated what patients themselves prefer when it comes to managing pain — opioids, which are widely distributed for intense pain relief, or medical marijuana.

The researchers found that the patients themselves much prefer medical marijuana, and many believe it is just as effective for their pain.


Your humble Cob has been on several opioids over the years. He has never had medical marijuana.

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Friendship prevents cat fights at work. The ONT didn't make the connection.

Summary: When employers foster an office environment that supports positive, social relationships between women coworkers, especially in primarily male dominated organizations, they are less likely to experience conflict among women employees, new research confirms.

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Pulled from the Misanthropic's closet of You can't make this SHIT up.

Students at the University of California San Diego staged a protest last week in the hopes that school administrators would cancel a planned appearance by that hard-line conservative commentator whose rhetoric is known to incite violence wherever he goes: the Dalai Lama.

For once, the complainers weren’t campus liberals, but Chinese students who claimed the Dalai Lama’s message of world peace was actually a cover for a campaign of violence, property damage, and death, which runs contrary to UCSD’s commitment to tolerance and equality.

“UCSD is a place for students to cultivate their minds and and enrich their knowledge,” the Chinese Students and Scholars Organization said in a statement. “Currently, the various actions undertaken by the university have contravened the spirit of respect, tolerance, equality, and earnestness—the ethos upon which the university is built.”

Seriously, WTF doesn't offend these asswipes?

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A "Hey you" would have sufficed. Genius Award Winner.


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Better to call it quits now instead of later. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.


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Notice: Posted with permission by AceCorp, LLC. The penmanship grade is 2/3 of your final grade.

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Comments

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1 Yea! ONT.

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 09:46 PM (zcuxU)

2 Ooh! Slanty!

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 09:46 PM (iMxBJ)

3 And 1st!

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 09:47 PM (zcuxU)

4 The Transgender Colonization of Africa

The Richard Dawkins imitator/supermodel Cara Delevigne has embraced the excuse/current truth of the so-called transgender movement: Homophobia.

http://politicalhat.com/?p=13647

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 17, 2017 09:47 PM (vBeA5)

5 OMG! ONT ist NOOD!

Oh, sweet mystery of life . . .

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 09:48 PM (s5o+q)

6 Will republicans in congress actually ever do anything? Or will they just continue to be democrats?

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at July 17, 2017 09:48 PM (ZZhQQ)

7 Corgis called.

Off to refill the whiskey glass.

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 09:49 PM (zcuxU)

8 Evening Horde! Great content tonight once again.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2017 09:49 PM (tr2D7)

9 i been here all this time, just reading y'all.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 09:49 PM (6Xf+s)

10
James Brown!

Posted by: otho at July 17, 2017 09:49 PM (lmIoG)

11 Stop with the narcan. Opioid crisis solved.

Posted by: NCKate at July 17, 2017 09:50 PM (2R5JV)

12 The Democrats have produced some bad Presidents. And beyond bad, like Carter and Obama and Wilson. But perhaps none so hapless as the also-rans. Can you imagine, really imagine

President Gore
President Kerry
President Dukakis

I'm not just saying they're stupid; that's a given. They are clowns. And I didn't even have to mention that ranting old guy at the deli.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 09:51 PM (iMxBJ)

13 Another day into our worldwide shortage of chill.

Some people call it climate change, but they just don't understand the nature of the problem.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 09:51 PM (wB8Tg)

14 Its interesting that the Washington Examiner article about Delta includes the tweets from Delta. But when you click the link to their other article they do not show any of Coulter's tweets, and its not much more than again Delta whining about Coulter being mean to them.

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2017 09:52 PM (z/Ubi)

15 Anyone heard of UnidosUS ?

So, does UnidosUS come on 5.25" floppy disks ?
Does UnidosUS work only on Intel devices or can I run it on AMD devices ?
Does UnidosUS work on 32 and 64 bit processors ?
Does it come in Spanish ? ... considering it is US

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 17, 2017 09:52 PM (e8kgV)

16 Ahh Petula Clark.. fond memories of listening to her on the radio when I was a kid. I would fall asleep with my radio on hoping to hear Downtown. I was rarely disappointed.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:53 PM (CNHr1)

17 11 Stop with the narcan. Opioid crisis solved.
Posted by: NCKate at July 17, 2017 09:50 PM (2R5JV)

May I subscribe to your newsletter?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 09:53 PM (ZTRlp)

18 Ahem.

Al Gore is the "Man-Bear-Pig".

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 17, 2017 09:53 PM (xID9/)

19 But I really am only 29.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:53 PM (CNHr1)

20 I can't find an effing fresh hot red chili pepper here in Northern California to save my life. I bet they have them in, say, New Jersey. It's as though there is so much good produce locally, that they just don't bother to import the stuff it's not quite hot enough here to grow.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 09:54 PM (iMxBJ)

21 Hello Horde!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 09:55 PM (q1+kD)

22 this is a version of the old casting couch,

Old casting couch? Does anyone think it isn't still going on?

Or maybe those pretty, young girls are giving blow jobs to flabby, old, balding men because they enjoy it.

In any case "Sexual Harassment In the Entertainment Industry" would be a great thing for all those Hollywood liberals who hate Trump for "grabbing pussy" to go after. I mean, if they really are concerned with how women are treated.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (+lVUW)

23 19 But I really am only 29.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:53 PM (CNHr1)

Whew. Sigh of relief. You're legal

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (ZTRlp)

24 So... I had an interesting evening besides becoming a great grandma. As I am preparing dinner I go to the pantry to get the flour and find weevils in there. And then everywhere. SO spent the next hour cleaning out the pantry and throwing almost everything away. Shit.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (CNHr1)

25 The resistance in the Great White North is located @ https://twitter.com/TheRebelTV


Posted by: Locke Common at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (X5Vvl)

26 Lots of content. Lots.

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (ANIFC)

27 Don't you dare call me Aunt Jemima!

Posted by: Mrs. Buttersworth at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (bc2Lc)

28 22 this is a version of the old casting couch,

Old casting couch? Does anyone think it isn't still going on?

Or maybe those pretty, young girls are giving blow jobs to flabby, old, balding men because they enjoy it.

In any case "Sexual Harassment In the Entertainment Industry" would be a great thing for all those Hollywood liberals who hate Trump for "grabbing pussy" to go after. I mean, if they really are concerned with how women are treated.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (+lVUW)



I've been told that there is quite the collection of casting couch porn out there.

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2017 09:57 PM (z/Ubi)

29 Now THAT is cool Calligraphy!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2017 09:57 PM (0tfLf)

30 Quote II
If you hear, day after day, liberals are rooting against armed forces, that is eventually going to have an effect on soldiers and troops who are actually going to believe that and it's wrong. It's just wrong. Al Franken

I loathe Al Franken, but I have a grudging respect for him. I think he's incredibly wrong, and douchey while being wrong, but I think he does love this country, which is more than I can say for 90% of the Dems/Libs/Marxists.

I have a friend who was activated as an MP in the aftermath of 9/11, guarding NYC and ground zero specifically. It turned into a thing for celebrities to be seen thanking the troops there, and get their picture taken. My buddy said most would pose for pictures and be gone soon after, he even said Bill Clinton was especially interested in pictures with the young female soldiers. He said Al Franken actually stayed for hours talking to any of the troops who wanted to talk, paying no attention to cameras. He was one of only a handful of celebrities who seemed sincere about being there.

Like I said, he irritates me like a sandpaper enema, but I think he's sincere. And he cheated to get elected.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at July 17, 2017 09:57 PM (tMFgx)

31 Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM

Congratulations on the new addition to the family!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (q1+kD)

32 11. Alternatively, one could admit that there's no solution to the problem other than the return of the legal trade in it. Walk into the pharmacy and buy known quantity of known strength. 'Cause, really, no govt can fix this. China's been trying since forever and still don't have a handle on it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (MBesZ)

33 Like I said, he irritates me like a sandpaper enema, but I think he's sincere. And he cheated to get elected.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at July 17, 2017 09:57 PM (tMFgx)

Oh, well, as long as he's sincere, it's ok.

/sarc

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (xID9/)

34 The workplace isn't where employers should be wasting time dealing with bitchy women. If women can't refrain from being bitchy, hire more men.

Posted by: NCKate at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (2R5JV)

35 24 So... I had an interesting evening besides becoming a great grandma. As I am preparing dinner I go to the pantry to get the flour and find weevils in there. And then everywhere. SO spent the next hour cleaning out the pantry and throwing almost everything away. Shit.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (CNHr1)


That sucks. Dunno about weevils, but I had a similar experience with moths infesting pretty much everything in a closet, so much that I was tempted to get a flamethrower. It was really hard to get rid of them.

FWIW, Mrs Splunge keeps the flour in the freezer. Never understood why, until I read your post.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (iMxBJ)

36 23 19 But I really am only 29.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:53 PM (CNHr1)

Whew. Sigh of relief. You're legal


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (ZTRlp)

Well... I'm 29 too! Just on my second Lap!

Posted by: Don Quixote, History SCREAMING! at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (NgKpN)

37 "The seat that you paid for..." Delta, please shut up and take your medicine, you deserve it.

Special boats in Chesapeake Bay. I see the sniper, spotter, 4 machine gunners, a few assaulters and a doc.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (DxWUs)

38 PA legalized medical marijuana fairly recently based on the belief that it would reduce the opioid problem. From my anecdotal experience, all that happened was it just added another drug to prescribe.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 17, 2017 10:00 PM (IDPbH)

39 The new MST3K on Netflix is surprisingly a-political and amusing (if you're a Mistie, anyway).

So far, so good. I haven't watched all of them yet.

I'm still prepared to be bitterly disappointed, in accordance with O'Sullivan's First Law.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:00 PM (s5o+q)

40 Stop with the narcan. Opioid crisis solved.

Posted by: NCKate at July 17, 2017 09:50 PM (2R5JV)


Yes! And here I foolishly thought liberal dogma was all in support of survival of the fittest!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:00 PM (gwPgz)

41 Special boats in Chesapeake Bay. I see the sniper, spotter, 4 machine gunners, a few assaulters and a doc.


Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM


Lets hope there are no Iranian motor boats near by to whom they will be ordered to surrender.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2017 10:00 PM (0tfLf)

42 >>>To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace. George Washington

That's why I want Iran to have nukes. It's the best way to secure peace in the Middle East.

Posted by: Barack Obama at July 17, 2017 10:00 PM (/qEW2)

43
Holiday & salad days
And days of mouldy mayonnaise
Caress me

Posted by: Electric Aunt Jemima at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (BO/km)

44 22: that will happen when the flying monkeys come shooting out of my ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (KP5rU)

45 Dr. Zhivago is on TCM. One of those movies where the secondary actors out shown the main ones. Tom Courtnay, Alec Guiness, and Rod Steiger were absolutley amazing. Nothing against Omar Shariff or Julie Christie but they were out acted by those three and they weren't in the movie that much. They would just pop up here and there.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (pY+s4)

46 34 The workplace isn't where employers should be wasting time dealing with bitchy women. If women can't refrain from being bitchy, hire more men.
Posted by: NCKate at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (2R5JV)

And if so many men insist on butting heads and banging their dicks on the side of the urinal to prove their manhood at work, hire more women.

Just sayin'.

I've been in both working environments. Leave the drama at home.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (NXsWM)

47
Do androids dream of electric sex bots?

Posted by: otho at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (lmIoG)

48 If Mayor Kirk Caldwell signs it within the next 10 days, pedestrians in the Hawaiian city will be fined $15 to $99 for crossing the street while looking at their mobiles.

They must have a lot of police officers in that city. It never seems to occur to people whose first response to any problem is, "We should make a law", that laws are useless unless they can be enforced.
Good luck catching all those people who are looking at phones while crossing the street.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (+lVUW)

49 If women can't refrain from being bitchy, hire more men.

You have obviously never been to a college faculty meeting full of liberal guys.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (3C9q2)

50 Yes, we have the Presidency, the House, and the Senate, but we still need the Council of Elrond in order to get rid of Obamacare.

Posted by: Gandalf Health, Inc., A Cayman Islands Corporation at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (qYCgM)

51 44. How long ago did you put them up there?

(Sorry, better it should be a friend.....)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (MBesZ)

52 We made a mistake in Iran with Stuxnet. Instead of using it to wreck the centrifuges, we should have made the reactors melt down.

Posted by: Toad-O at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (cct0t)

53 Julie Christie

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (pY+s4)

But oh so gorgeous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (wYseH)

54 We had them one other time at our old house years ago. Not sure how or why they suddenly appear. All the flour, cereal, Bisquick, rice, etc had to be thrown out. Jesus.. my grocery bill should be a hoot next week.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (CNHr1)

55 my first memory is crossing the bumpy railroad tracks in the nearest city's main st, going east, standing on the front seat next to mom driving, listening to the radio blasting 'Downtown' and seeing the red, blue, green, and yellow Christmas lights ahead, lighting up the public square.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (6Xf+s)

56 44 22: that will happen when the flying monkeys come shooting out of my ass.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (KP5rU)

So, you're sayin' there's a chance.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (NXsWM)

57 no one treats a young professional woman worse than an older professional woman or support staff woman.


wait until lesbians are running the casting couches.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (0wem/)

58 Medical Marijuana is a godsend for PTSD.

Of course, it's not legal in NYS, but very decriminalized.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (70QTT)

59 49 If women can't refrain from being bitchy, hire more men.

You have obviously never been to a college faculty meeting full of liberal guys.
Posted by: Basement Cat at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (3C9q2)



Well their estrogen levels are probably higher than the womens.

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (z/Ubi)

60 38 PA legalized medical marijuana fairly recently based on the belief that it would reduce the opioid problem. From my anecdotal experience, all that happened was it just added another drug to prescribe.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 17, 2017 10:00 PM (IDPbH)


I've had serious knee issues since 1985. I've had quite a few of the various opioids prescribed for me. Here in WI we don't have medical pot. I would like to try it. Currently I'm using Tramadol on a need basis.

WI has passed some serious prescription laws in the past 6 months. Its a major pain in the ass now to have certain prescriptions filled or refilled.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (ZTRlp)

61 So. Much. "Content"...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (e9G8E)

62 I knew a worm named Weevil and he'd eat a bit
Unknown to You
A tiny worm eating all your flour and other shit
What can you do ?

You put your flour up so high, oh so high
But not that I can't get to

Posted by: Jewell's Weevil at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (fiGNd)

63 "Just be you, and if people don't like it then fuck them!"


...."I mean, unless you're an asshole, in which case fuck you."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (hcyUh)

64 Friendship prevents cat fights at work. The ONT didn't make the connection.
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So....if men don't specifically stop women from backstabbing and fighting with each other...they will.

This must be the most politically incorrect study in recent memory.

Or at least since they studied why lesbians tend to be fat (answer they care less about fatness in their partners then straight mendo).

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (aZq03)

65 48 If Mayor Kirk Caldwell signs it within the next 10 days, pedestrians in the Hawaiian city will be fined $15 to $99 for crossing the street while looking at their mobiles.

They must have a lot of police officers in that city. It never seems to occur to people whose first response to any problem is, "We should make a law", that laws are useless unless they can be enforced.
Good luck catching all those people who are looking at phones while crossing the street.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (+lVUW)

In another adventure of "let's pass a law that won't get enforced", my city council passed a resolution limiting the use of fireworks to the 4th of July ONLY. Police in the greater metro area were called over 400 times about illegal use of fireworks. Less than 20 citations were issued.

So what was the point of the law again? Aside from the virtue signaling?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (xID9/)

66 54 We had them one other time at our old house years ago. Not sure how or why they suddenly appear. All the flour, cereal, Bisquick, rice, etc had to be thrown out. Jesus.. my grocery bill should be a hoot next week.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (CNHr1)

Why do you think grandma kept everything in glass jars with rubber-sealed lids?

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (NXsWM)

67 48 They must have a lot of police officers in that city. It never seems to occur to people whose first response to any problem is, "We should make a law", that laws are useless unless they can be enforced.
Good luck catching all those people who are looking at phones while crossing the street.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (+lVUW)


Exactly. From one of Lawrence Block's novels about Matthew Scudder, a NYC detective-turned-private-eye (I recommend the whole series in the strongest terms):

I believe there's a city ordinance against feeding pigeons. We used to cite it in the department when explaining to rookies that there were laws you enforced and laws you forgot about.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 10:05 PM (iMxBJ)

68 Posted by: Jewell's Weevil at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (fiGNd)

lol!!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:05 PM (CNHr1)

69 The real star of Dr. Zhivago was Sir David Lean.

Posted by: Sir Alec Guinness at July 17, 2017 10:05 PM (qYCgM)

70 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 09:58 PM (MBesZ)

I'll have a carboy of laudanum if you please!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:05 PM (gwPgz)

71 We have had several overdoses in our parking lot at the pill factory. A pharmacist has had to go outside and administer Narcan. I've had enough of this shit.

The amount of opiods we dispense each day is staggering.

Go after the doctors who write these scripts. No one needs 180 doses of opiods for 30 days. It's ridiculous.

We call Monday Suboxone Day.

Posted by: mpfs at July 17, 2017 10:05 PM (TlRcP)

72 i love Tom Courtnay in "The Dresser."

"I had a Friend..." he kept saying. until those 4 words meant everything.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:05 PM (6Xf+s)

73 48 If Mayor Kirk Caldwell signs it within the next 10 days, pedestrians in the Hawaiian city will be fined $15 to $99 for crossing the street while looking at their mobiles.

They must have a lot of police officers in that city. It never seems to occur to people whose first response to any problem is, "We should make a law", that laws are useless unless they can be enforced.
Good luck catching all those people who are looking at phones while crossing the street.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (+lVUW)

They can cast nets, literally. Catch dozens at a time.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 17, 2017 10:06 PM (P/kVC)

74 To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace. George Washington

WTF man?!?!

Posted by: Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus at July 17, 2017 10:06 PM (wB8Tg)

75 So... I had an interesting evening besides becoming a great grandma. As I am preparing dinner I go to the pantry to get the flour and find weevils in there. And then everywhere. SO spent the next hour cleaning out the pantry and throwing almost everything away. Shit.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (CNHr1)

=========

Next time you buy flour, freeze it for at least 24 hours, if there is not space available to just keep it in the freezer. The freezing will kill the eggs.

Posted by: GOULD at July 17, 2017 10:06 PM (vj/UE)

76 66. Recycling 'shine jars, right?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:06 PM (MBesZ)

77 51: i don't remember uncle. took a long time to catch them though.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:06 PM (KP5rU)

78 49 If women can't refrain from being bitchy, hire more men.

You have obviously never been to a college faculty meeting full of liberal guys.
Posted by: Basement Cat at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (3C9q2)


He did say men.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 10:06 PM (iMxBJ)

79 Quality content. ^5, M.H.

And quite frankly, the AoS commentariat, taken as a whole and separate entity, would easily be in the Top Ten of all conservative blogs on the 'web.

Now then, to settle in to ye olde recliner, with a good bourbon and y'all's even better company.

I'll read n' relax. Might even toss in some B.S. here n' there along the way.

Cheers, Horde!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2017 10:06 PM (v5iqM)

80 I've had serious knee issues since 1985. I've had quite a few of the various opioids prescribed for me. Here in WI we don't have medical pot. I would like to try it. Currently I'm using Tramadol on a need basis.

WI has passed some serious prescription laws in the past 6 months. Its a major pain in the ass now to have certain prescriptions filled or refilled.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (ZTRlp)

Tramadol is for head and neck pain, mostly. It really doesn't do much for knees. You might want to find a real pain doc. I used Advanced Pain Management when I lived in WI, but there are others. Pain is a specific issue, particuarly when chronic, and most doctors aren't up on the best ways to deal with it. Making a phone call couldn't hurt.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:07 PM (NXsWM)

81 Yes, it's true, the Times is running stories about men in Silicon Valley who hit on women who come to them asking for money.
***
And speaking of politically incorrect science

Women try to get money out of men...
and men try to get sex out of women...

Why, I'm shocked, shocked that this is happening.

Speaking of which moronettes...I just got paid and this bottle of val-u-rite is big enough to share...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2017 10:07 PM (aZq03)

82 70. You'll be wanting this demijohn of gin, then.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:07 PM (MBesZ)

83 Lotta politics in the ONT tonight. Gonna be a long night and probably won't end well.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (m9X4Y)

84 To get rid of weevils you not only have to throw out all the infested materials, but also remove everything from the shelves and spray every crevice. I had to do it once, but they never came back.

Posted by: Toad-O at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (cct0t)

85 Lets hope there are no Iranian motor boats near by to whom they will be ordered to surrender.



Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2017 10:00 PM (0tfLf)

I don't think the crew in this picture would surrender, it is Marine riverine craft or Navy SWCC w/SEALs. Some folks people are wise not to fvck with.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (DxWUs)

86 With all the overdoses here in Ohio there have been more transplants done, they almost can't keep up. The organs are healthy if you can believe it, I thought it was crazy when I was told that, the crap they but in it stops the breathing and doesn't affect the organs

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (dKiJG)

87 Roy Head, racy as crap song, Practice My Method. Lol!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj43dafq0r0

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (PUmDY)

88 Hi Horde,
I haven't written in a while, but want to ask for your prayers for my sister Lisa, who is waiting on test results. Her blood work is "off", and her brain tumor chemo has been suspended until the docs figure out what is going on. Thanks!
Also, has anyone heard from ibguy about his sister Joyce, who is also battling brain cancer? I don't have time to read all the comments every night, but have been praying for her and hope she is doing ok.

Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (WBYpW)

89 83 Lotta politics in the ONT tonight. Gonna be a long night and probably won't end well.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (m9X4Y)

It'll get out of hand and we'll be lucky to live through it?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (xID9/)

90 I have a female friend that regularly complains to me about all the trouble her coworkers start. Her female coworkers.

Did I mention my female friend is tall, thin, blonde, and has done a little modelling in her past?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2017 10:09 PM (aZq03)

91 Lotta politics in the ONT tonight. Gonna be a long night and probably won't end well.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (m9X4Y)


Yeah I wish the savage people well, but I am suffering from burnout.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:09 PM (wB8Tg)

92 70 & 82.

As a courtesy, I've included a few pennyweights of cocaine, in case you feel too drowsy later.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:10 PM (MBesZ)

93 90 I have a female friend that regularly complains to me about all the trouble her coworkers start. Her female coworkers.

Did I mention my female friend is tall, thin, blonde, and has done a little modelling in her past?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2017 10:09 PM (aZq03)


Can I have her number?

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2017 10:10 PM (z/Ubi)

94
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:07 PM (NXsWM)

Thanks for the advice. I thought I would give it a try. Vicodin doesn't do much for me anymore.

I want to find something as I'm not looking forward to knee replacement 2.5 in 4 years.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:10 PM (ZTRlp)

95 Those Chinese UCSD students are simply giving the Chinese Communist Party line with regard to the Dalai Lama.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 17, 2017 10:10 PM (EZebt)

96 Some folks people are wise not to fvck with.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (DxWUs)

Yup.

They are going fast and both machine guns are manned.

They are not snoozing and fvcking around.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (wYseH)

97
i love Tom Courtnay in "The Dresser."

I like Prince Albert in The Can.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (IqV8l)

98 On an unpolitical note, here is a link to some *old* pictures of geishas

http://www.vintag.es/2017/06/
stripped-of-kimono-15-stunning-black.html

One thing that stands out...a few of the women don't seem to have the epicanthic fold which I thought was universal among Japanese.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (aZq03)

99 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (ZTRlp)

Unfortunately for those that don't abuse the medication , they are screwed by a large number of those who do and the doctors who enable it. Also unfortunately I've seen people who had no intention of abusing the medication become addicted beyond the pain they were trying to relieve. No doubt it's a difficult issue. I think a lot of it though is how our culture has changed along with the mindset that one should be pain free and not just pain tolerant.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (IDPbH)

100 Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (WBYpW)

Prayers sent for your sister.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (CNHr1)

101 To get rid of weevils you not only have to throw out all the infested materials, but also remove everything from the shelves and spray every crevice. I had to do it once, but they never came back.

Posted by: Toad-O

Sounds like a plan to clean out Congress.

Posted by: mpfs at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (TlRcP)

102 84 To get rid of weevils you not only have to throw out all the infested materials, but also remove everything from the shelves and spray every crevice. I had to do it once, but they never came back.

Posted by: Toad-O at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (cct0t)


Well - that sounds like some bullshit legislation disproportionately impactful to my weevil brothers and sisters.

In the words of Weevil Jeantel - "That's real retarded, sir."

Posted by: Global Weevil Brotherhood Global 1 at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (fiGNd)

103 For example, Judicial Watch is reporting that the state auditor of Mississippi is demanding that Virginia Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe's former company, GreenTech, repay millions in public money because the electric vehicle company shut down and failed to deliver on its promises to create new jobs.

But the name's accurate. Sounds like it made McAuliffe plenty of green.

Most people don't have any investments. Wasn't it nice of Mr. McAuliffe to make the people of Mississippi investors in his company without them having to do anything? That's the beauty of government.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 17, 2017 10:12 PM (/qEW2)

104 Most pain meds make me really sick, so I don't have much of a dog in the eternal opioid fight, but it seems to me a lot of it is trying to swat flies with hammers.

Maybe someday we'll find a safer alternative. I hope.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:12 PM (wB8Tg)

105 Lotta politics in the ONT tonight. Gonna be a long night and probably won't end well.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (m9X4Y)


I don't think this will help very much, but who knows, it might.

Turn it way up:

https://youtu.be/GTY_CCKeELs

(Mighty Science Theater--closing credits from classic MST3K)

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:12 PM (s5o+q)

106 You'll be wanting this demijohn of gin, then.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:07 PM (MBesZ)


Brandy my good man, only the finest brandy. but yes!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:12 PM (gwPgz)

107 About the narcan, who pays? I'm thinking it should be like the Chinese, where they charge the family for the bullet when they off someone. That shit's expensive, and it would bankrupt any place.

Here in AK, you can buy it at Fred Meyer, but I'm not at all sure the cops are using it for their various needs. As I understand it, most overdoses are in Wasilla (as usual, what an armpit!) while most of the drinking problems are here in Anchorage.

Frankly, I'm just as happy not knowing about the whole mess, but now it looks like I'll by paying for it with taxes, so.....

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:12 PM (NXsWM)

108 Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM

Prayers up.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 10:12 PM (q1+kD)

109 Did I mention my female friend is tall, thin, blonde, and has done a little modelling in her past"

Ahem. ..

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 17, 2017 10:12 PM (8FKCg)

110 Mazel Tov jewells!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 17, 2017 10:13 PM (EZebt)

111 Does Medical Marijuana help with paranoia and depression? I thought I read where pot makes you paranoid, but that might have been because it was illegal and you were always afraid of getting arrested by the man.

Or does it just make you not care that you are depressed and paranoid?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:13 PM (m9X4Y)

112 95. Yep. Consequences back home. Worked at a place where we used to have to oull down the posters for that falun gong dance troupe what tours (shen yun), because so many faculty were from PRC & our leadership went their regularly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:14 PM (MBesZ)

113 Merovign, I'm the same way. I've had to take them for a few days when I have had surgery but after day two I get sick to my stomach and just turn to Ibuprofen.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:14 PM (CNHr1)

114 So how is it the government has money for "refugees", AIDS anti-viral cocktails, and environmental junkets to the most scenic cities in the world but not money to treat opiod addicts?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2017 10:14 PM (aZq03)

115 These Dreams, Heart

https://youtu.be/41P8UxneDJE

Nancy Wilson had a bit of a sore throat, which led to the (WOW) rendition of the lyrics . . .

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:14 PM (s5o+q)

116 111 Does Medical Marijuana help with paranoia and depression? I thought I read where pot makes you paranoid, but that might have been because it was illegal and you were always afraid of getting arrested by the man.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:13 PM (m9X4Y)


Apparently there are different kinds. Someone once tried to explain about that to me, but I was so bored that I changed the subject.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 10:14 PM (iMxBJ)

117 Gore said that when he met with Trump after he was elected president, he found Trump "attentive" and had a "pleasant exchange" with him when they spoke about the environment.
"I had hoped he would come to his senses on the Paris agreement, but I was wrong,


No, you weren't wrong. He has come to his senses, and those of us who voted for him are glad as hell.
Go back to the woods.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:15 PM (+lVUW)

118 Does Medical Marijuana help with paranoia and depression? I thought I read where pot makes you paranoid, but that might have been because it was illegal and you were always afraid of getting arrested by the man.

Or does it just make you not care that you are depressed and paranoid?


Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:13 PM


MJ can make you both paranoid and depressed. Not related to cops etc.

Posted by: otho at July 17, 2017 10:15 PM (lmIoG)

119 It'll get out of hand and we'll be lucky to live through it?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric


Nobody gets out of here alive.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (S6Pax)

120 So how is it the government has money for "refugees", AIDS anti-viral cocktails, and environmental junkets to the most scenic cities in the world but not money to treat opiod addicts?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 17, 2017 10:14 PM

Or Veterans...

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (q1+kD)

121 70 & 82.

As a courtesy, I've included a few pennyweights of cocaine, in case you feel too drowsy later.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:10 PM (MBesZ)


Perchance you have access to the inestimable coca leaf itself?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (gwPgz)

122 Merovign, I'm the same way. I've had to take them for a few days when I have had surgery but after day two I get sick to my stomach and just turn to Ibuprofen.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:14 PM (CNHr1)


Yeah I turned down a dose after surgery, because I don't like the way it made me feel. And regretted it A LOT about four hours later. :/

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (wB8Tg)

123
To control the weevils, I keep all my flour, rice, corn meal etc either in plastic lever-sealed bins or freezer bags. Goes a long ways towards keeping the bugs at bay. At the very least, it keeps them from spreading.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (iFZVz)

124 When employers foster an office environment that supports positive, social relationships between women coworkers,

Is this code for lesbianism?

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:17 PM (+lVUW)

125 I had a friend that was a paraplegic and grew his own medical marijuana. It was the only thing that really helped with his leg spasms. Medical marijuana is not like the pot you may have smoked. It's pretty much designed to knock you out.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 10:17 PM (Lqy/e)

126 but not money to treat opiod addicts?
Posted by: 18-1

because they think they're (we're) subhuman and we deserve to die wasted in the gutter.

good times.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (6Xf+s)

127 We order a bundle of HIV antivirals every month for HIV clients.

Federal program. Guess who pays?!

Yup. Taxpayers.

If I was single right now I don't believe I would date much.

Posted by: mpfs at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (TlRcP)

128 121. There is an excellent coca wine, very favorably received as a tonic and nervine, but the leaves themselves, brewed as a strong tea, make a most sovereign remedy for fatigue and neurasthenia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (MBesZ)

129 It'll get out of hand and we'll be lucky to live through it?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric


Nobody gets out of here alive.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (S6Pax)


That's what they WANT you to believe.

Posted by: The Barrel at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (s5o+q)

130 have a good friend taking about four or five vicadins a day for back pain. he's now on disability. the vicadins and the booze he dumps on top of them are not a good mix. he is heading down the highway to hell. i told his wife to get him some help before it's too late. maybe it already is.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (KP5rU)

131 126 but not money to treat opiod addicts?
Posted by: 18-1

because they think they're (we're) subhuman and we deserve to die wasted in the gutter.

good times.
Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (6Xf+s)

But how do you treat them? Giving the anti-OD helps them that time, but that doesn't stop them from being hooked.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 17, 2017 10:19 PM (xID9/)

132 Or does it just make you not care that you are depressed and paranoid?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:13 PM (m9X4Y)

All dope does to me is make me cough and then fall asleep.

Some folks seem to think it makes them invicible.

Being around stoned people is worse than spending the day at a kiddie drop daycare. After a while you're desperate to speak with an adult.

I think the lure of dope is that people were told they couldn't have it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:19 PM (NXsWM)

133 124 When employers foster an office environment that supports positive, social relationships between women coworkers,

Is this code for lesbianism?
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:17 PM (+lVUW)

Can't be... ever see two Lesbians fight???

NASTY!

Posted by: Don Quixote, History SCREAMING! at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (NgKpN)

134 After my back surgery I could not have survived without the pain meds. The pain was off the charts...but as I said after day 2 or 3 I just swallowed 3 Ibuprofen every 4 or 5 hours and it didn't get rid of the pain but made it tolerable. I don't see how people get hooked on that crap. Maybe it affects people differently.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (CNHr1)

135 Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (q1+kD)

It's really great that the unelected unaccountable bureaucrats appointed by our Congressional representatives know how to prioritize properly, because I don't think any of us here would make those same great choices!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (gwPgz)

136 as long as a person's breathing, it's not too late.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (6Xf+s)

137 It's an outrage!!!

Posted by: The Perpetually Offended at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (Tyii7)

138 Yeah I turned down a dose after surgery, because I don't like the way it made me feel. And regretted it A LOT about four hours later. :/
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:16 PM (wB8Tg)

======

I was in the hospital for 2 weeks in December. Twice every day, they came by with pain meds. I did not have any pain, and told them so each time. They still kept coming every day.

I did not want the monkey on my back or the side effects.

Posted by: GOULD at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (vj/UE)

139 >>>Being around stoned people is worse than spending the day at a kiddie drop daycare. After a while you're desperate to speak with an adult


Personally I would rather be around stoned people than drunk people. But, that's a discussion for another day.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:21 PM (ZTRlp)

140 I hate to beg, but is there any moron in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that needs a programmer or technical support person? I've been out of work for almost six months and the end of my rope is coming up fast. Any help would be appreciated. My email is in my nic.

Posted by: Viridian at July 17, 2017 10:21 PM (mVnZo)

141 I've never done well with opioids the few time in my life I've taken them... They make my nose itch so badly that I want to tear it off!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:21 PM (e9G8E)

142 >>>A "Hey you" would have sufficed. Genius Award Winner.

Something's fishy about that story. They don't mention the race of the doctor. If he were white, surely yahoo would have mentioned it. It smells similar to the attempt of the media to try to get people to think George Zimmerman was white.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 17, 2017 10:22 PM (/qEW2)

143 I had a morphine injection when I was 8 years old. I still remember it. Powerful stuff.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:22 PM (MBesZ)

144 because they think they're (we're) subhuman and we deserve to die wasted in the gutter.

good times.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (6Xf+s)


Hey, it's This Week's Literally Hitler!

Maybe you could take a therapy animal on a plane and distract them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:22 PM (wB8Tg)

145 Great ONT!

And the likes of Terry McCauliffe will almost certainly suffer no real life consequences from the damage he left in his wake.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2017 10:22 PM (eP+dt)

146 But how do you treat them? Giving the anti-OD helps them that time, but that doesn't stop them from being hooked.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

in-patient treatment, then immediately, long-term peer supported behavioral change works.

Oxford House is working miracles every day.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:22 PM (6Xf+s)

147 I've never done well with opioids the few time in my life I've taken them... They make my nose itch so badly that I want to tear it off!


Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:21 PM


Ooooh. Sounds like good shit. What was it?

Posted by: otho at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (lmIoG)

148 Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM

Heh.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (q1+kD)

149 "To get rid of weevils you not only have to throw out all the infested materials, but also remove everything from the shelves and spray every crevice. I had to do it once, but they never came back."

Little trick I learned from a coworker when I lived in SC. Throw your bags of flour, rice, etc in the freezer for a couple of hours, then seal in in plastic bags before putting on pantry shelves. The cold kills anything lurking in the bags. It works. Had one weevil incident with a bag of flour before I started the freezer routine. None after that.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (jm1YL)

150 Well.. I am off to bed after a long but fun filled weekend. Back to reality. If you are so inclined, go check out the new stuff at my shop. All you lurkers this means you too!! Just click on my nic.

Night ya'll. You mean a lot to me. Stay safe.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (CNHr1)

151 130 have a good friend taking about four or five vicadins a day for back pain. he's now on disability. the vicadins and the booze he dumps on top of them are not a good mix. he is heading down the highway to hell. i told his wife to get him some help before it's too late. maybe it already is.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:18 PM (KP5rU)

He needs better pain management. Vicodin is not a particularly good choice for back pain. It is a rescue drug, not a long term fix.

Something like Kadian which is a time-released morphine would be better. That coupled with some immediate release for breakthrough pain usually does the trick.

Get this friend to a pain doc, not a back doc, right away. Pain docs monitor everything and prevent any dealing or overdosing rather handily. Back docs are great at fixing what can be fixed, but not so great at dealing with the chronic issues.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (NXsWM)

152 136; i've talked to him. he thinks he's fine. it's hard to hold a conversation with him now.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (KP5rU)

153 I think I would rather have weevils than all the fruit flies you get after you get your produce home. I can double sift the flour.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (Y6clQ)

154 Last surgery I said no to pain meds.

I got through it.

I watch too many people in my job use way too many painkillers.

Posted by: mpfs at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (TlRcP)

155 Seeing people who are in pain, legitimate pain then get cut off and they go find an alternative to relieve it. I changed my mind on Medical Marijuana. I have never heard of someone overdosing on it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 10:24 PM (dKiJG)

156 If you could read my mind love
what a tale my thoughts could tell
just like an old time movie
about a ghost from a wishing well
in a castle dark or a fortress strong
with chains upon my feet
you know that ghost is me
and I will never be set free
as long as I'm a ghost you can see

If I could read your mind love
what a tale your thoughts could tell
just like a paperback novel
the kind the drugstores sell
when you reach the part
where the heartaches come
the hero would be me
but heroes often fail
you won't read that book again
because the ending's just to hard to take

I walk away like a movie star
who gets burned in a three-way script
enter number two
a movie queen to play the scene
of bringing all the good things out in me
but for now love let's be real

I never thought I could act this way
and I've got to say that I just don't get it
I don't know where we went wrong
but the feeling's gone and I just can't get it back

If you could read my mind love
what a tale my thoughts could tell
just like an old time movie
about a ghost from a wishing well
in a castle dark or a fortress strong
with chains upon my feet
the story always ends
if you read between the lines
you'll know that I'm just trying to understand
the feelings that you left

I never thought I feel this way
and I've got to say that I just don't get it
I don't know where we went wrong
but the feeling's gone
and I just can't get it back

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 17, 2017 10:24 PM (eMKNe)

157 151; thanks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:24 PM (KP5rU)

158 The lesser of two Weevils from Master and Commander.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4PzpxOj5Cc

Posted by: X-ray at July 17, 2017 10:24 PM (BnS7g)

159 145 And the likes of Terry McCauliffe will almost certainly suffer no real life consequences from the damage he left in his wake.
Posted by: RM at July 17, 2017 10:22 PM (eP+dt)


You call that damage? Terry Mcauliffe is an amateur. He doesn't know the first thing about damage.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at July 17, 2017 10:24 PM (iMxBJ)

160 The THC in marijuana makes you anxious, paranoid, and high. (In General)

The CBD in marijuana makes you less anxious, less paranoid and doesn't get you high. (In General)

But what you need depends on the condition you're treating, for instance, pediatric epilepsy requires a fairly high THC content to get effective seizure suppression. So for those kids, you have to get them high to relieve their condition.

I understand people don't like that idea, but I had horrible hay fever as a child, and I walked around high as hell on Benedryl. That wasn't...and shouldn't have been considered...child abuse. It was the best choice modern medicine had available at the time.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 10:25 PM (70QTT)

161 153. Bowl of water with a splash if apple cider vinegar in it next to the produce or fruit. Problem solved.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:25 PM (MBesZ)

162 I've had serious knee issues since 1985.....
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (ZTRlp)

So, MisHum. I would like to just pass on to you my own experience with knee issues.

In 2007 I could barely walk due to my knees being stiff and sore. I had my 2nd arthroscopic surgery that year and was told that I would need knee replacements in 3-5 years.

Long story short I started taking Curcumin and UCII collagen and the knees worked great for another 8 yrs. This addressed my inflammation problem very well.

Then it quit working.

Until my SIL told my wife about an enzyme that worked to reduce scary tissue. And I knew that scar tissue was a problem for me.

Now I can get around fairly well, good enough to push a lawn mower around my yard for 5 hrs/wk.

My goal is to use my God given knees long enough to only have 1 each knee replacement in my life. Typical replacement joint life is 25 yrs.

Just between you and me, I am almost there.

If you want to know more about the tumeric /UCII, checkout website "Neeport Natural Health".

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:25 PM (zcuxU)

163 Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 10:23 PM (jm1YL)

That's an excellent off the wall tip that actually should be posted to the AoS cookbook coordinators !

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:26 PM (gwPgz)

164 Maybe it affects people differently.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (CNHr1)


Holy crap, watch people wig out arguing over flavors.

Yeah, it completely affects people differently.

A few people take cocaine once, don't get hooked, never go back. A few die within minutes. A bunch get hooked and wreck their lives.

All kinds of curves for all kinds of chemicals.

The whole genetic medicine thing will work miracles, but we're just beginning.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:26 PM (wB8Tg)

165 Never though I'd get here. Got hung up on Stevie Ray from the previous thread. Boy, was he a good 'un.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2017 10:26 PM (zLDYs)

166 18-1: the indigenous people of at least the northern parts of Japan, including all Hokkaido (and Sakhalin if we count that), are the Ainu. They do not have the epicanthic fold. They are also bearded. The Ainu language died out twenty years ago but was an isolate, not related to Japanese or Korean or Manchu etc.

Maybe you saw a relict of that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 17, 2017 10:27 PM (6FqZa)

167 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 17, 2017 10:27 PM (eMKNe)

168 I'd read that lesbians beating the living shit out of each other is known in their community as 'foreplay'...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (e9G8E)

169 This YouTube guy is pretty entertaining and informative.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CaptainDisillusion

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (LTHVh)

170 152 136; i've talked to him. he thinks he's fine. it's hard to hold a conversation with him now.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

loving or caring about someone in active addiction/alcoholism makes the friend or loved one sick too. that's what alanon's for. peer support for each other, and ways of thinking that provide relief.

It's been the butt of a million jokes, but to millions, it's the only solution that's ever worked.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (6Xf+s)

171 Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (CNHr1)

I woke up from gall bladder removal surgery to the most indescribable pain.

Fucking post-op meds didn't take for me.

After about five hundred (relative) years of insisting that "oh, FUCK this HURTS" they gave me the good stuff.

I don't take chronic pain lightly at all.

Opioids are as easily (or maybe more easily) abused than alcohol.

Doesn't mean that they're not good things at the right time.

There's a difference between "a little pain" and "OH MY GOD THERE'S A KATANA IN MY BOWELS" pain.

I learned, that day in the OR recovery room, the difference.

Posted by: The Barrel at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (s5o+q)

172 I had always had that same feeling of - repulsion - is probably the best word about Gore. A typical hypocritical liberal who took it for granted he would be protected by the media because he was a liberal Democrat.

Anointed a guru for his environmental posturing, he was a low wattage bulb.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (eP+dt)

173 Good evening all! Anything good for our side?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (AOQ4d)

174 The CBD in marijuana makes you less anxious, less paranoid and doesn't get you high. (In General)
---------
Charlie Brown's Dildo?

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (ANIFC)

175 Mmmmmmmmmmm, frozen weevils!

Posted by: Homer Simpson at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (IqV8l)

176 Regarding the Coulter affair:

She showed wisdom and foresight by ordering an paying extra for a seat with extra leg room.

Delta was wrong to bump her out of that seat without so much as a fare thee well.

On top of that, Delta was also stupid, weapons-grade stupid, in fact, for jerking around a well-known member of the commentariat who has a bully pulpit. About as stupid as kicking sand in the face of Chuck Norris at the beach.

And the Twitter stream had several mouth-breathing Leftards accusing her of "racism" for posting the picture of the chick who get her seat. A woman who looks perfectly white to me, as do her seat-mates. Like they say, if all you hear is the dog-whistle, then maybe you are the dog.







Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (XUcIQ)

177 27 Don't you dare call me Aunt Jemima!
Posted by: Mrs. Buttersworth at July 17, 2017 09:56 PM (bc2Lc)


Bitch, I'll call you whatever I want to when you back that ass up!

Posted by: Uncle Ben at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (1JnAL)

178 Give me morphine and projectile vomiting commences in approximately 30 minutes.

Posted by: mpfs at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (TlRcP)

179 It was the best choice modern medicine had available at the time.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 10:25 PM (70QTT)


People often have a vague and unrealistic idea of what that is. Including doctors.

We're still practicing baby-medicine. I can hope it will get a lot better in our lifetimes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (wB8Tg)

180 Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:25 PM (zcuxU)

Thanks for the input.

Left knee replaced 12/13.
Partially replaced again in 6/14. By a different doc.
Acting up with physical activity. Using ice and script now.

Doc is thinking about putting in a completely new one. I'm not prepared to do that. I would rather use ice and drugs. Hoping to find the one that works.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (ZTRlp)

181 yeah, cocaine is a hell of a drug

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 17, 2017 10:30 PM (0wem/)

182 I learned, that day in the OR recovery room, the difference.
Posted by: The Barrel at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (s5o+q)


Fucking Barrel, stealing my most innermost stories.

It oughta be ashamed.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:30 PM (s5o+q)

183 There is a pretty long list of different types of opioids prescribed for pain. Hydrocodone ( Vicodin) is probably the most prescribed . What I've seen in last few years is using more anti-convulsants to prescribe for pain. Specifically Lyrica. On a purely financial basis, can't wait until the generic comes out. That crap is expensive.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 17, 2017 10:30 PM (IDPbH)

184 I had an ablation done on my heart; after the surgery I needed a constant drip of morphine for the pain. And apparently it couldn't be done automatically, so some poor orderly had to stand there next to me and administer it for about eight hours straight.

I discovered that I HATE morphine. It doesn't take away the pain, it just makes you not care. I hated that feeling.

Posted by: Viridian at July 17, 2017 10:30 PM (mVnZo)

185 qdpsteve, thank you for reminding me of that great song.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:30 PM (6Xf+s)

186 howdy my lovelies.

How is everyone?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 17, 2017 10:31 PM (smD62)

187 How the hell are these people getting mass amounts of opioids, when I have several times, once with the spider bite, and once with a broken ankle, unable to get more than ten. Better off, in retrospect. I'd hate to get addicted to that. Must be a thing though.

Posted by: kalneva at July 17, 2017 10:31 PM (vhW1R)

188 'Papa's Got a Brand New Bag' is considered seminal in the emergence of funk music as a distinct style.

My bag may not be brand new, but it's quite seminal.

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 17, 2017 10:31 PM (/qEW2)

189 It should be noted that I get effective relief from PTSD symptoms from products that are legal in all 50 states because they don't contain enough THC to get you high.

But they do contain enough THC to make me piss dirty, unfortunately. And there's no arguing a positive drug test without a doctor's prescription.

That's the crappy thing.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 10:32 PM (70QTT)

190 Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 17, 2017 10:31 PM

Howdy, Miss.

Hope things are well!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 10:32 PM (q1+kD)

191 Pain is just weakness leaving the body...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:32 PM (e9G8E)

192 174 The CBD in marijuana makes you less anxious, less paranoid and doesn't get you high. (In General)
---------
Charlie Brown's Dildo?
Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (ANIFC)

------------------------------------------

Yeah, I often read that wrong!

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 10:33 PM (70QTT)

193 186. Drunk, maudlin, stoned, paranoid, giggling, on the nod, and wired for sound and ready to engage in at least 2 of the 4 F's.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:33 PM (TwwWO)

194 There's a dildo in my medical marijuana!

Posted by: The Perpetually Offended at July 17, 2017 10:33 PM (Tyii7)

195 booknlass, you're welcome.

I like Sundown a lot too, I consider it Lightfoot's only real 'rock' song.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 17, 2017 10:33 PM (eMKNe)

196 soldiers and troops who are actually going to believe that and it's wrong. It's just wrong.

We firmly believe that nobody should know that it's true.

Posted by: Al Franken at July 17, 2017 10:34 PM (kuiuS)

197 18-1: the indigenous people of at least the northern parts of Japan, including all Hokkaido (and Sakhalin if we count that), are the Ainu. They do not have the epicanthic fold. They are also bearded. The Ainu language died out twenty years ago but was an isolate, not related to Japanese or Korean or Manchu etc.

Maybe you saw a relict of that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 17, 2017 10:27 PM (6FqZa)


IIRC, Ainu language is dying but still has speakers.

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 17, 2017 10:34 PM (vBeA5)

198 Thanks for your prayers Jewells, Erik and all. The waiting on test results is so hard.
I usually add "and the Horde" to my prayers since I can't keep up with all that is going on with each of you.
Take care!

Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 10:34 PM (WBYpW)

199 86 With all the overdoses here in Ohio there have been more transplants done, they almost can't keep up. The organs are healthy if you can believe it, I thought it was crazy when I was told that, the crap they but in it stops the breathing and doesn't affect the organs
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio


It's the circle of life. And I denounce myself.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:34 PM (+lVUW)

200
194 There's a dildo in my medical marijuana!
Posted by: The Perpetually Offended at July 17, 2017 10:33 PM (Tyii7)

Good news! It's a suppository.

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 10:34 PM (ANIFC)

201 "That's an excellent off the wall tip that actually should be posted to the AoS cookbook coordinators !"

Hot, humid climates and little creepy crawlies in your flour go together like peas and carrots.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 10:34 PM (jm1YL)

202 Or Newport Natural Health.

Can't decide if autocorrect or lousy typing is the problem.

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:35 PM (zcuxU)

203 191 Pain is just weakness leaving the body...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:32 PM (e9G8E)

What is not going to be a Quote of The Day for $500!?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:35 PM (ZTRlp)

204 Pretty cool, what started Mayer wanting to play Dead music...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MnUAqGyFMo0

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 10:36 PM (PUmDY)

205 Uncle Palp- Thanks for the tip. Apple Cider Vinegar- In ya , on ya, and around ya.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 17, 2017 10:36 PM (Y6clQ)

206 Only thing I'm addicted to is freedom.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2017 10:36 PM (zLDYs)

207 "@AnnCoulter Additionally, your insults about our other customers and employees are unacceptable and unnecessary."

As opposed to being unacceptable and necessary, I guess.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 10:36 PM (rZ+mb)

208 187 How the hell are these people getting mass amounts of opioids
Posted by: kalneva

I read probably close to three months ago the medical card is enabling way too many white mid-western men to overdose on opioids. can't remember where, sorry....

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:37 PM (6Xf+s)

209 Pain is just weakness leaving the body...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:32 PM (e9G8E)


Yeah, no.

Pain is God's way of reminding you that you're an idiot.

Or, a Moron, if you will.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:38 PM (s5o+q)

210 171 Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 17, 2017 10:20 PM (CNHr1)

I woke up from gall bladder removal surgery to the most indescribable pain.

Fucking post-op meds didn't take for me.

After about five hundred (relative) years of insisting that "oh, FUCK this HURTS" they gave me the good stuff.

I don't take chronic pain lightly at all.

Opioids are as easily (or maybe more easily) abused than alcohol.

Doesn't mean that they're not good things at the right time.

There's a difference between "a little pain" and "OH MY GOD THERE'S A KATANA IN MY BOWELS" pain.

I learned, that day in the OR recovery room, the difference.
Posted by: The Barrel at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (s5o+q)

I had Gall Bladder surgery and the pain wasn't bag at all, Tylenol was enough for me, but when I had my tonsils taken out. That was three weeks of hell. I couldn't eat anything it was like trying to swallow glass. And I didn't sleep for like 3 days and I started crazy, my called the Dr for I don't know what but it got me enough so I could sleep.

People have different reactions to surgery.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 10:38 PM (dKiJG)

211 02 Or Newport Natural Health.

Can't decide if autocorrect or lousy typing is the problem.


Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:35 PM (zcuxU)

I typed it as you had originally wrote it and it came up, don't worry about the snafu.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:38 PM (ZTRlp)

212 Bowl of water with a splash if apple cider vinegar in it next to the produce or fruit. Problem solved.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:25 PM (MBesZ)


Another good tip for the cookbook!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 17, 2017 10:39 PM (gwPgz)

213 In the News Today:

There was a pissing match between a celebrity and a business.
There was a pissing match between a celebrity and a politician.
There was a pissing match between a politician and another politician.

In international news:

Several countries were embroiled today in pissing matches.

In Sports:

Some celebrities pissed mightily at other celebrities.

Here's today's weather:

Some academics were tied up in a pissing match with some politicians today...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:39 PM (wB8Tg)

214 the electric vehicle company shut down and failed to deliver on its promises to create new jobs.

-
Whaaa? A virtue signaling government subsidized vreen energy company failing! I never heard of such a thing!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 17, 2017 10:39 PM (Nwg0u)

215 Drunk, maudlin, stoned, paranoid, giggling, on the nod, and wired for sound and ready to engage in at least 2 of the 4 F's

Were you driving to Las Vegas with your Samoan lawyer?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 17, 2017 10:39 PM (6FqZa)

216 206. Me, too. And caffeine and booze and nicotine and my angel.

Oh, and my stimulants. And....

Well, you get the idea.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:39 PM (TwwWO)

217 HA...Ha...Ha. Presdent Obama;s Healthcare Law remains and all of us are proud that our Presdent of Color major achievement remains in place. We love our Black Presdent...........do You ????????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (WmgTn)

218 I hate to beg, but is there any moron in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that needs a programmer or technical support person? I've been out of work for almost six months and the end of my rope is coming up fast. Any help would be appreciated. My email is in my nic.

Posted by: Viridian at July 17, 2017 10:21 PM (mVnZo)

Could you write a geological striplog program native to the Linux OS? A striplog is basically a graphic representation of the wellbore, that can be populated with symbols by the user.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (XUcIQ)

219 The researchers found that the patients themselves much prefer medical marijuana, and many believe it is just as effective for their pain.

LOL .... sure it is.

I really wonder what sort of "pain" these people were allegedly experiencing that they thought pot handled it better than opiods. Pot is not a pain-killer. As often as not being high will enhance the pain.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (rZ+mb)

220 Some years ago, there was an NSAID called "Zomax" that reportedly was as effective as any opiate, but it was taken off the market because of occasionally fatal reactions...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (e9G8E)

221 Ann Coulter was right to call out Delta, but she shouldn't have pictured the person who replaced her seat.

Posted by: Venette at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (ZZo2I)

222 90 I have a female friend that regularly complains to me about all the trouble her coworkers start. Her female coworkers.

Did I mention my female friend is tall, thin, blonde, and has done a little modelling in her past?

Posted by: 18-1


I once worked in a situation where a co-worker was a pretty, young redhead with a bikini body. A new supervisor came in who was a bitter, liberal, not attractive, middle-aged, newly divorced female.
The supervisor HATED the cute redhead to the point where it was obvious to all.

The supervisor lasted one year. She was one of those women who would say things like, "They don't listen to me at meetings because I'm a woman." It never occurred to her that she was incompetent.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (+lVUW)

223 I hate pain killers, I try to never take them. They make me feel like shit. I can't imagine people doing that shit for recreation. I keep my body pretty free of meds of any kind. On the other hand, give me a few buds, and a guitar, and I'm King mutha fuckin Tut and the garden of weeden. Not on the worst day did weed ever feel shitty like meds do.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (aMlLZ)

224 And I will say again: medical marijuana is nothing like the pot you are familiar with. I'm really familiar with recreational pot. Before WA state decriminalized it, they had a person in charge of the medical marijuana program. They would supply clones of different strains tailored to certain conditions. The stuff my friend grew was not fun stuff to smoke. It was a lot closer to how opiods affect you.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (Lqy/e)

225 Pain is God's way of reminding you that you're an idiot.

Or, a Moron, if you will.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:38 PM (s5o+q)


I usually hear people praising someone for never complaining about the pain after their funeral.

Frequently, pain is a sign you need to Take Care of That Shit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (wB8Tg)

226 "In Sports:
-Some celebrities pissed mightily at other celebrities.
Here's today's weather:
-Some academics were tied up in a pissing match with some politicians today...
"
-Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 17, 2017 10:39 PM (wB8Tg)

That's it from Ohio. We're done here.

*stacks papers*

*removes mic*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (Ckg4U)

227 you are right, Hokkaido Ainu survives (barely). I remembered the news articles about Sakhalin Ainu biting it in 1994. (Looked this up on Wiki.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (6FqZa)

228
We love our Black Presdent...........do You ????????

That Trump is one bad mutha f....

Posted by: Isaac Haze at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (IqV8l)

229 215. Well, it was to Quincy, and he was from Kerala, and pre-law.....

But same basic idea.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (TwwWO)

230 BTW, one of the things that I've discovered in my research is that the body will express pain in situations where one isn't allowed to voice it. (Like the way soldiers used to become unresponsive when faced with too much trauma. In a world where you could be shot for cowardice, that is the only way the mind could express its anguish.)

So, I'm guessing that most of the people who get hooked on opioids had crappy childhoods, and they're in a situation where they can't express it.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 10:42 PM (70QTT)

231 Coulter's a tad BPD.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 17, 2017 10:42 PM (oVJmc)

232 new work dilemma:

New client has set me up to work with a website designer/adwords guy. I'm supposed to do text.

Well, on current project, the boss likes A.
Second in command likes B.
Marketing guy likes B.
I like A.

Project has now been handed to second in command, and project has done a 180 from A to B. BTW, it's due in three days.

Plus.. marketing guy has taken it upon himself to do my job and has provided all the text for this project.

Do I:

1. Object to being steamrolled?
2. Stand back and let them do what they want?

I get paid either way.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 10:42 PM (aT+Bx)

233 Talkin' crazy medications?

I remember there was a "sleep" medication being used by hospitals in the 1980s/early 1990s that was making people do crazy things, it wasn't Ambien. Halcion?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 17, 2017 10:42 PM (eMKNe)

234 I learned, that day in the OR recovery room, the difference.
Posted by: The Barrel at July 17, 2017 10:28 PM (s5o+q)

I had 2 major abdominal surgeries and was in the hospital for 10 days. They gave me dilauded (sp?). It didn't really help. I had the push button thing for 2 days and then I think I had it IV every 4 -6 hours. It wasn't touching the pain.

I was sleeping 3-4 hours a day if even that.

Then they sent me home with Percocet for 2 weeks.

I was really sick. Blood transfusions, ilieus, internal bleeding.

The dilauded really didn't help.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 10:43 PM (Ri/rl)

235 I've got at least six claimants on pain pumps filled with a cocktail of different pain meds. At least I don't have to be suspicious that they are selling their medications. I've got a number of claimants I'm convinced are selling some but I can't prove it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 17, 2017 10:43 PM (IDPbH)

236 So, when I had my gall bladder surgery, apparently they went in and it was pretty much disintegrated, and they were shocked I wasn't jaundiced.

So, I ended up in the hospital for a week. For gall bladder surgery. I had infection issues for nearly a week. It was actually kind of scary, because the doctor(s) would expect progress and there'd be no progress.

This was while I was in college too, so I missed like 2 weeks of college, because, even after I got out of the hospital, I had follow up visits, the week following.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 17, 2017 10:43 PM (smD62)

237 Also, I've read enough crazy stories about Ambien that I don't *ever* want to take it.

From what I've read, it literally turns you into a zombie.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 17, 2017 10:43 PM (eMKNe)

238 221 Ann Coulter was right to call out Delta, but she shouldn't have pictured the person who replaced her seat.
Posted by: Venette at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (ZZo2I)

Sorry... goes to Need...

This 'Woman' somehow insisted that she get the seat vice Anne.... Delta for some reason agreed.

Anne was showing that she had no need, in fact LESS need for the extra leg room.

As someone who has to shoehorn themselves into airline seats... I understand why Anne is pissed.

Posted by: Don Quixote, History SCREAMING! at July 17, 2017 10:43 PM (NgKpN)

239 President Gore
President Kerry
President Dukakis

I'm not just saying they're stupid; that's a given. They are clowns. And I didn't even have to mention that ranting old guy at the deli.
Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 09:51 PM (iMxBJ)



You left out President McGovern.

A loyal American, a patriot, a decorated veteran, and a walking disaster as a President.

Posted by: Charlie Gard at July 17, 2017 10:43 PM (SRKgf)

240 Gore redux:

The 30,000 square foot house, the private jets, the fleet of Suburbans, and the lecturing about carbon footprints.

The whiny encounter with some masseuse.

Selling to AlJazeera instead of Glenn Beck because he wanted someone more aligned with his values.

Screaming about how George Bush "betrayed this country! He played on our fears!"

Telling his constituency to trust him because he was one of them, a good ole boy tobacco farmer, then dedicating his VP to stamping out smoking.

Filing legal motions to keep soldiers abroad votes from being counted.

His condescending debate performance against George Bush.

Reinvention as "Earthtone Al"

I could go on. As I said earlier, repulsion is the word that best describes my feelings about him. He made me pray for Bill Clinton's continued good health.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2017 10:44 PM (eP+dt)

241 I prefer to use a good Cabernet for any pain. It also aids in sleep enhancement.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 17, 2017 10:44 PM (Y6clQ)

242 Exactly. From one of Lawrence Block's novels about Matthew Scudder, a NYC detective-turned-private-eye (I recommend the whole series in the strongest terms):

I believe there's a city ordinance against feeding pigeons. We used to cite it in the department when explaining to rookies that there were laws you enforced and laws you forgot about.

Posted by: Splunge at July 17, 2017 10:05 PM (iMxBJ)

++++

You can tell that the passage is from someone who just doesn't understand law enforcement techniques. There are no laws that are forgotten about. Those laws are kept in the back pocket of any experienced officer, ready to be deployed when they come across someone who they really need to fuck with.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 17, 2017 10:44 PM (pvjTE)

243 223: same here berserker. only no guitar and no weed anymore either. was prescribed percodan when i cut off a finger, turned my brain into thick gooey mud. i babbled like a fuckin idiot. threw them in the trash and never looked back. pharmacueticals are over prescibed and abused.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:45 PM (KP5rU)

244 I haven't seen a FREE TIBET bumper sticker in years. Perhaps the libtards have realized that in order to free Tibet you must first free China. Nah, its just hip any more.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 17, 2017 10:45 PM (p7pfb)

245 I get paid either way.
-------------

Path of least resistance. Take the money for the least amount of work required. It is a simple cost/benefit analysis.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:45 PM (m9X4Y)

246 187 How the hell are these people getting mass amounts of opioids, when I have several times, once with the spider bite, and once with a broken ankle, unable to get more than ten. Better off, in retrospect. I'd hate to get addicted to that. Must be a thing though.
Posted by: kalneva at July 17, 2017 10:31 PM (vhW1R)

"SPIDER BITE" that's what the heroin users say they have when a needle site gets infected, and it a big inside joke with Nurses and Doctors.


What's funny is that we have some Russian Doctors and they won't do shit if you complain of pain. they will tell you to tough it out.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 10:46 PM (dKiJG)

247 "If I had a box just for wishes
and dreams that had never come true
the box would be empty except for the memory
of how they were answered by you"

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:46 PM (6Xf+s)

248 Do I:

1. Object to being steamrolled?
2. Stand back and let them do what they want?

I get paid either way.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 10:42 PM (aT+Bx)

Document that you are NOT responsible for the text... then let them do what they want...

or in other words... CYA...

Posted by: Don Quixote, History SCREAMING! at July 17, 2017 10:46 PM (NgKpN)

249 Sweet liquor eases the pain

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 10:46 PM (ANIFC)

250 Gore redux"

Chakra, baby!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 17, 2017 10:47 PM (8FKCg)

251 Lightfoot wrote many, many fine songs.

I would not be able to pick a favorite.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2017 10:47 PM (OdK9v)

252 237. Took ambien for a while. It worked. Downside? I used to get up and cook or clean or go for a drive - or, ummm, other things - and have NO FREAKING IDEA I was doing any of this, nor any memory of any of it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:47 PM (TwwWO)

253 The CBD in marijuana makes you less anxious, less paranoid and doesn't get you high. (In General)

Funny, I just asked little infidel what this was. The cysts on the ovary are killing her. She said almost the exact same thing.

Posted by: Infidel at July 17, 2017 10:47 PM (gDoff)

254 Thanks again for a great ONT MisHum.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2017 10:47 PM (MZcWR)

255 booknlass, that song has a sad backstory.

Jim Croce wrote it for his newborn son AJ and by the time ABC Records saw fit to release it, he had died in a plane crash.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (eMKNe)

256 Life is a Cabernet, old boy.

Or so I've heard, above all the whining.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (S6Pax)

257 They gave me Vicodin after I broke my arm. I took them and finally understood how people can get hooked on things.

Over the counter for me, please. I've got beer. I'll be fine.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (Ckg4U)

258 I have very little knowledge of the Ann Coulter-Delta feud. But even if Coulter is an entitled bitch, I can't imagine Delta doing the snarky tweets against any leftist woman, no matter how terribly they had behaved.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (C06tc)

259 SLAP!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (KP5rU)

260 >>>With all the overdoses here in Ohio there have been more transplants done, they almost can't keep up.

Moral of the story: DON'T check that box on the back of your driver's license. In fact take a magic marker and write F*CK NO!-->[] next to it. Don't give these ghoulish fuckers an excuse to cannibalize you.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (/qEW2)

261 Mike, I love Peter Paul & Mary's version of "Early Morning Rain."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (eMKNe)

262 Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 10:41 PM (Lqy/e)

Puh-leeease. Medical marijuana was the biggest scam around. It was nothing more than a money maker for scrip factories and a foothold to get recreational pot legalized.

It's funny how every other drug has to go through all sorts of studies and trials proving efficacy, etc. but pot was legalized for "medicinal use" *wink, wink* without anything. Yeah ... right.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (rZ+mb)

263 And, of course, we all know what the first thing came to mind when I saw CBD.

Posted by: Infidel at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (gDoff)

264 Ann Coulter was right to call out Delta, but she shouldn't have pictured the person who replaced her seat.

Posted by: Venette at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (ZZo2I)

I think she just wanted to prove that the recipient of her seat was a small-statured person, who didn't need the extra leg room.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 10:49 PM (XUcIQ)

265 Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (WBYpW)


Prayers for both Lisa and Joyce and their families.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 17, 2017 10:49 PM (AOQ4d)

266 Who got Coulter's seat and why did they pick her to be moved?

I've heard that the person who got the seat was a Delta employee but that's just a rumor.

As far as why her, was this an SJW hit job?

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 17, 2017 10:49 PM (d3wbb)

267 CHAVEZ!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 10:50 PM (Ckg4U)

268 I had a colonoscope today. It was nice to consume something that required teeth. Al Gore has never had an empty colon.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 17, 2017 10:50 PM (p7pfb)

269 Pain is just stupid leaving the brain.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 17, 2017 10:50 PM (Nwg0u)

270 Do I:
1. Object to being steamrolled?
2. Stand back and let them do what they want?
I get paid either way.
---
document that they did what they wanted, not what the boss wanted, and that they didn't use the text you were hired to create.

then sit back, watch the firew*rks, and pound the check.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 10:50 PM (y94N4)

271 wait until lesbians are running the casting couches.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 17, 2017 10:03 PM (0wem/)

I doubt they could give a good beej.

Posted by: Insomniac, Pimp Hand of the Patriarchy at July 17, 2017 10:50 PM (0mRoj)

272 qdpsteve, that's so sad. the words just sparkle with love and meaning.

I'm listening to youtube's mix Jim Croce

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (6Xf+s)

273 219 The researchers found that the patients themselves much prefer medical marijuana, and many believe it is just as effective for their pain.

LOL .... sure it is.

I really wonder what sort of "pain" these people were allegedly experiencing that they thought pot handled it better than opiods. Pot is not a pain-killer. As often as not being high will enhance the pain.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 10:40 PM (rZ+mb)

Pain is very often not physically induced but mentally. That's when marijuana probably helps.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (IDPbH)

274 John Kerry 2004: "President Clinton was often known as the first black president," John Kerry told the American Urban Radio Network last week. "I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (rnAwa)

275 BTW: did everyone see the sidebar link from Sunday about the vet on hospice who wants to hear from people?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (y94N4)

276
Path of least resistance. Take the money for the least amount of work required. It is a simple cost/benefit analysis.
--

Document that you are NOT responsible for the text... then let them do what they want...


or in other words... CYA...
-------

This was my first thought-- just lean back.

As for CYA, great idea.

The boss made a mock up of less than 60 words. But... the second in command and the marketing guy don't like the idea, so they're reverting to what THEY like.

New guy suggesting text has 238 words and is totally against what the boss said he wanted.

BTW, this is for a one page email ad.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (aT+Bx)

277 I've had a number of surgeries and have done well with the painkillers. I never let the pain get out of hand thus necessitating extra does. In other words I followed the doctors' instructions, I got a whooping scrip for 100 Vicodin after the hip replacement. I only needed them for week or so and then switched to Tylenol. I've still got quite a few left in the bottle. As a matter of fact I think I have some leftovers from my wisdom tooth extraction and gall bladder surgery too. I guess I've never felt the need to substitute an opioid over the counter pain medicine for every day aches an pains

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (jm1YL)

278 I hope you all are having a good evening.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (mkDpn)

279 I haven't seen a FREE TIBET bumper sticker in years. Perhaps the libtards have realized that in order to free Tibet you must first free China. Nah, its just hip any more.
Posted by: colfax mingo

Joe Scarborough was big on Free Tibet (with an equal or lesser value Tibet) back in the 90's when he was in Congress.
It was always one of those Faux Freedum things that Good People were always for. See how I vogue for you? Are you not entertained?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (S6Pax)

280 *Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:38 PM (ZTR

Hope you get relief.

The enzyme I mentioned is "Heal-n-Soothe".
I figure the combination will get me to the end of the year.

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:52 PM (zcuxU)

281 258 I have very little knowledge of the Ann Coulter-Delta feud. But even if Coulter is an entitled bitch, I can't imagine Delta doing the snarky tweets against any leftist woman, no matter how terribly they had behaved.
Posted by: cm9000 at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (C06tc)

True that. I have my problems with her, but Delta thinks, like Reebok, et al., that they can side against someone one the Right & will be loved for it.

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 10:52 PM (ANIFC)

282 Alberta Oil Peon: Possibly. I've done a lot of work in Linux; with a good specification doc I could probably get you what you need. Again, shoot me an email if you're serious.

Posted by: Viridian at July 17, 2017 10:53 PM (mVnZo)

283 Delta has not learned the first rule of holes.

Posted by: Insomniac, Pimp Hand of the Patriarchy at July 17, 2017 10:53 PM (0mRoj)

284 I hope you all are having a good evening.
Posted by: Kindltot


Are you trying to start something??


Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 10:53 PM (S6Pax)

285 same here berserker. only no guitar and no weed anymore either. was prescribed percodan when i cut off a finger, turned my brain into thick gooey mud. i babbled like a fuckin idiot. threw them in the trash and never looked back. pharmacueticals are over prescibed and abused.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:45 PM (KP5rU)


I needed a skin graft to save the index finger on my left hand. I had a freak accident with an electric plane. it almost removed the entire fingerprint, but thank god I missed the very tip. They said it would heal, then I mentioned the guitar, and they said um ok lets get Dr "specializes in reconstructive shit" in here.

The dude worked a miracle, but he gave me a pain killer that I have no clue to this day what it was. I didn't take many, but I did feel....good. Other stuff I have taken for other injuries, yeah not so much. It seems like its all garbage.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 10:53 PM (aMlLZ)

286 180 Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:25 PM (zcuxU)

Thanks for the input.

Left knee replaced 12/13.
Partially replaced again in 6/14. By a different doc.
Acting up with physical activity. Using ice and script now.

Doc is thinking about putting in a completely new one. I'm not prepared to do that. I would rather use ice and drugs. Hoping to find the one that works.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (ZTRlp)



I'm so sorry hear this MisHum. I'm sure you've heard this, but when you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 17, 2017 10:54 PM (AOQ4d)

287 Sweet liquor eases the pain
Posted by: josephistan
------------

I know, I know!
I even wrote about it:

Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;...

Posted by: Geoff Chaucer at July 17, 2017 10:54 PM (OdK9v)

288 Back In Black

https://youtu.be/pAgnJDJN4VA

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:54 PM (s5o+q)

289 As a matter of fact I think I have some leftovers from my wisdom tooth extraction and gall bladder surgery too.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (jm1YL)


I had all four wisdom teeth extracted (individually) and I never took anything but aspirin or tylenol, which were more than effective enough. The dentist wanted to prescribe me something stronger but I told him not to bother.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 10:55 PM (rZ+mb)

290 Delta and other airlines: Shut the f**k up and do whatever we say, or we'll call security.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:55 PM (+lVUW)

291 I know, I know!
I even wrote about it:

Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;...
Posted by: Geoff Chaucer at July 17, 2017 10:54 PM (OdK9v)

You talk like a fag. Speak English.

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 10:55 PM (ANIFC)

292 Big song now...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=znAWEOXTcAY

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 10:55 PM (PUmDY)

293 287 Sweet liquor eases the pain
Posted by: josephistan
------------

I know, I know!
I even wrote about it:

Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;...
Posted by: Geoff Chaucer at July 17, 2017 10:54 PM (OdK9v)



Malt does more than Milton can to justify God's ways to man.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 17, 2017 10:55 PM (AOQ4d)

294 murderin joe scarborouh is not even the equal of his mentor, butthead. beavis has a sad.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 10:55 PM (KP5rU)

295 Love the private jet/hybrid car duality.

Reminds me of the Double Baconator combo with fries and a Diet Coke.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 17, 2017 10:56 PM (acxjh)

296 It's funny how every other drug has to go through all sorts of studies
and trials proving efficacy, etc. but pot was legalized for "medicinal
use" *wink, wink* without anything.
---
the DEA steadfastly maintains it as a Class I controlled substance, which makes it extremely difficult to conduct studies with.

same thing with heroin, which is a MUCH better pain med than morphine, hydromorphone, meperidine, etc...

it's almost as if there's a body of people who don't want certain things investigated for use.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 10:56 PM (y94N4)

297 I haven't seen a FREE TIBET bumper sticker in years. Perhaps the libtards have realized that in order to free Tibet you must first free China. Nah, its just hip any more.
Posted by: colfax mingo

Joe Scarborough was big on Free Tibet (with an equal or lesser value Tibet) back in the 90's when he was in Congress.
It was always one of those Faux Freedum things that Good People were always for. See how I vogue for you? Are you not entertained?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (S6Pax)


I took a tour that included a visit to Lhasa a couple of years ago.

The word "occupied" comes to mind.

PLA ChiComs EVERYWHERE.

Tibet is an occupied country.

Still.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 10:56 PM (s5o+q)

298 293. Nyce bootes! Wanna swyve?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:56 PM (TwwWO)

299 I'm so sorry hear this MisHum. I'm sure you've heard this, but when you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 17, 2017 10:54 PM (AOQ4d)

Thanks L.L.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:57 PM (ZTRlp)

300 65 48 If Mayor Kirk Caldwell signs it within the next 10 days, pedestrians in the Hawaiian city will be fined $15 to $99 for crossing the street while looking at their mobiles.

They must have a lot of police officers in that city. It never seems to occur to people whose first response to any problem is, "We should make a law", that laws are useless unless they can be enforced.
Good luck catching all those people who are looking at phones while crossing the street.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 17, 2017 10:02 PM (+lVUW)

In another adventure of "let's pass a law that won't get enforced", my city council passed a resolution limiting the use of fireworks to the 4th of July ONLY. Police in the greater metro area were called over 400 times about illegal use of fireworks. Less than 20 citations were issued.

So what was the point of the law again? Aside from the virtue signaling?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 17, 2017 10:04 PM (xID9/)


Mostly they do it so that they have a "reason".

In Virginia, not wearing your seatbelt was a "secondary" infraction. They couldn't pull you over for it, but they would bang out another ticket if they pulled you over for something else. One weekend, wife and I are out running errands, blue lights come on behind me. Cop walks up and tells me that I was speeding (I wasn't), and instead of giving me a speeding ticket, he was only going to give me a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt.

Yeah, it's BS that the government passes these laws, but when the government needs money, then they start enforcing those laws.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 17, 2017 10:57 PM (1JnAL)

301 Puh-leeease. Medical marijuana was the biggest scam around. It was nothing more than a money maker for scrip factories and a foothold to get recreational pot legalized.

It's funny how every other drug has to go through all sorts of studies and trials proving efficacy, etc. but pot was legalized for "medicinal use" *wink, wink* without anything. Yeah ... right.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (rZ+mb)

++++

Marijuana was, and remains, a Schedule 1 drug under federal law. It is illegal to even do medical studies with it, as that classification means that the federal government has already decided that it has no medical uses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances
_Act#Schedule_I_controlled_substances

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 17, 2017 10:57 PM (pvjTE)

302 wow Berserker, that's wild about your plane and finger. do you still feel the memory of it when you play? are you a lefty?

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:58 PM (6Xf+s)

303 BTW, this is for a one page email ad.
----------

Oh, well then. Send out runs of all three/four versions and track your response rate.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 17, 2017 10:58 PM (m9X4Y)

304 Free Ann Coulter (Or Face the Consequences)

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 17, 2017 10:58 PM (Nwg0u)

305 293. Heh....

Makst'ou pilgrimage often?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 10:58 PM (TwwWO)

306 Delta and other airlines: Shut the f**k up and do whatever we say, or we'll call security.
---
that's the VA way too...

they pulled that shit on me last week, after i called out the attending physician for violating standard PPE protocol.

single use means just that, even if you are allegedly a doctor and your patients are just veterans, asshole.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 10:59 PM (y94N4)

307 Flour should be put in the "freezer" to kill the larvae (if you're not going to use it up right away) but keep in mind 32°F won't cut it. For long term storage of most foods, freezers should be set to -10°F and 0°F these are the temps sufficiently cold enough to kill the larvae as well. 3 days is what I've read, a few hours isn't enough.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 10:59 PM (WOjjq)

308 *Over the counter for me, please. I've got beer. I'll be fine.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 10:48 PM (Ckg4U)*

Heh. Bud Light, I presume.

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:59 PM (zcuxU)

309 document that they did what they wanted, not what the boss wanted, and that they didn't use the text you were hired to create.

then sit back, watch the firew*rks, and pound the check.
--

Documenting is a really good idea and won't be hard to do.

Basically, the boss requests simple, unique, and whimsical and they turn it into a 250 word thing that includes a user testimonial.

Also... as soon as the boss said 'turn the project over to my second in command' the millenial basically took over.

I simply sent out an email asking if we're abandoning the concept from the boss and going back to the other concept that was discussed. IMHO, it's a bad idea, but let it sink them, not me.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 11:00 PM (aT+Bx)

310 304 Free Ann Coulter (Or Face the Consequences)
Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 17, 2017 10:58 PM (Nwg0u)

I would love to, but.....Mrs. Mis. Hum. won't let me.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:00 PM (ZTRlp)

311 Left knee replaced 12/13.
Partially replaced again in 6/14. By a different doc.
Acting up with physical activity. Using ice and script now.

Doc is thinking about putting in a completely new one. I'm not prepared to do that. I would rather use ice and drugs. Hoping to find the one that works.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:29 PM (ZTRlp)


I've been my usual lurking/ignoring AoS for a long, long while . . .

What went wrong with the original knee replacement that they had to do another one 6 months later? Infection?

My orthopedist was fanatic about the anti-infection protocol.

I'm 2.5 years on from my knee replacement . . . it could be better I guess, but it could be a LOT worse. I can (for instance) shoot baskets in the gym with minimal concern. But it's taken quite a bit of work to get to that point.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:00 PM (s5o+q)

312 winters in wisconsin and a missing half a finger sucks ass. trust me on that one.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:00 PM (KP5rU)

313 BTW: did everyone see the sidebar link from Sunday about the vet on hospice who wants to hear from people?


Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 10:51 PM (y94N4)

Yes, I texted him last night!

Posted by: Infidel at July 17, 2017 11:01 PM (gDoff)

314 Mis. Hum., I'm sorry for your damn pain. prayers.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 11:01 PM (6Xf+s)

315 "1. Object to being steamrolled?
2. Stand back and let them do what they want?
I get paid either way."

1. No
2. Yes
That's the object.
3. Have your version ready also in case the Boss want's it. More work but prior planning and all that.

Posted by: Tim iI at July 17, 2017 11:01 PM (sf2BM)

316 FREE TIBET"

Possibly no longer seen due to the correct response:

Pick up a rifle or STFU

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 17, 2017 11:01 PM (8FKCg)

317 Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;...
Posted by: Geoff Chaucer

Swish liquor? Chaucer was a fag?

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 17, 2017 11:01 PM (Nwg0u)

318 shibumi

When your boss complains about the wall of text from the clueless guys, hand over your edit and ask, "Will this do?"

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 17, 2017 11:01 PM (hyuyC)

319 "People have different reactions to surgery."

Indeed they do. I had hardly any pain at all after a hysterectomy but lordy did I need the good stuff after I had the wisdom teeth extracted. OMG I was in misery...then I got a dry socket. Double OMG.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 11:01 PM (jm1YL)

320
Oh, well then. Send out runs of all three/four versions and track your response rate.
--

It's an email ad through a third party list, and not only are they expensive, but they don't do effective tracking and will send out only ONE ad.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 11:02 PM (aT+Bx)

321 "Heh. Bud Light, I presume."
-Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 10:59 PM (zcuxU)

I'll leave the Light beer to the ladies.

-Budweiser
-Warsteiner
-Harp
-Guiness

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:02 PM (Ckg4U)

322 Art thou levied upon those who breach Hys Majestys peace? For thou art fine.

Art thou perchance a ruinous levy upon ye yeoman? For I feel a rising.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 11:02 PM (TwwWO)

323 weevils, meh, let me know when the spitting cobras invade the pantry.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:02 PM (KP5rU)

324 SUCH liquor!!

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 11:03 PM (6Xf+s)

325 323 weevils, meh, let me know when the spitting cobras invade the pantry.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:02 PM (KP5rU)

I had a spitting cobra in my pantry, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 17, 2017 11:04 PM (ANIFC)

326 Clay Travis of OutKick sports, he has a conservative bent on sports and he's the guy that predicted MSESPN will fail because they piss most of their veiwers.

Well he was flying back from the UK and his sic year old starts scratching his head, well he has lice. united refused to let his son and family to board the next flight. He was not happy about it because they wanted him to take his son to a Doctor and get a note that he was treated. They did have a nurse at the terminal going through his son's hair in front of other passengers.

For once I am on the airlines side, I would not want to sit next to or near a kid with lice.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:04 PM (dKiJG)

327 A guitar player will be more inhibited by an injury to his left fretting hand than his right picking hand.

I am under the impression that left-handed new players are encouraged to learn the same way as everyone else, so that way they don't limit the guitars they can buy.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2017 11:04 PM (rnAwa)

328 Being in no small way a "bolt together" project after various mishaps in life, I'm well acquainted with pain management and what I can and should take to deal with it.

For basic pain up to about the 5/5 level, I'm blessed in that aspirin is, for me, a miracle drug.

Let it dissolve under the tongue, very fast absorption and effect.

Coming hot off of a fresh, severe injury, a week's worth of 500 mg. Vicodin. I can usually get by with one snapped in half, but they're different than aspirin, and they work.

I've been hit in the E.R. with stronger stuff, but stronger in a way I certainly couldn't self-manage.

And somewhere in the "in-between" land, a good nightcap of bourbon, enough to send me to bed feeling warm, slightly buzzed and relaxed.

That "relaxed" thing is critical. I can't fall to sleep with pain-clenched muscles.

I pray only that I'll never end up needing stronger stuff.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2017 11:05 PM (v5iqM)

329 The benefit of true opioids (as opposed to some of the synthetic drugs sometimes mistakenly called opioids) is that the actually fit in the pain receptors like the natural pain killers your body will manufacture (endorphins).

Morphine, Codeine, Heroin, Dilaudid, etc. all actually fit in the pain receptors.
Cocaine can act as a pain killer because it can block the re-uptake of certain pain transmitter chemicals.

The so-called synthetic opioids sometimes have a partial fit in the pain receptors (blocking pain signals). The effect varies a lot from person to person.

Aspirin is actually a good pain killer, but has been out of fashion with a lot of doctors recently. The NSAids (like Ibuprofen) can also vary widely in terms of painkiller from person to person.

I am not sure how the medical marijuana is supposed to work, but the weed that people smoke is not the same as the different breeds of medical marijuana, which sometimes have different amounts of alkaloids in them.

My guess is that some of the alkaloids in Medical MJ can pinch hit for certain neurochemicals in your brain and can change the way that the body manages pain receptors and re-uptake of pain transmitters.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 11:05 PM (S6Pax)

330 Along similar lines I have always thought it curious that in order to outlaw booze, as was done in the US from 1919-1933, it was thought necessary to pass a constitutional Amendment, ratified by the states.

Today? Weed, tobacco,light bulbs, decent shower heads, the Easter Bunny et al, all kinds of things are Verboten with congress only tangentially involved. Never understood that. Not saying booze should be outlawed, or weed legalized, or the converse, just that it's clear that 100 years ago, the government seemed to follow the instruction manual a little closer. Hm.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:06 PM (WOjjq)

331 Swish liquor? Chaucer was a fag?

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks


ALL famous dead people were gay! Lincoln, Handel, Thoreau, Caravaggio, etc. According to Bishop Spong, St. Paul was gay! Gay, gay, gay!

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 17, 2017 11:06 PM (/qEW2)

332
When your boss complains about the wall of text from the clueless guys, hand over your edit and ask, "Will this do?"
--

Yes. That's kind of my plan.

Confession: at work, I'm a nice person. Which means, I get sh*t on. Well, no more. I'm not going to be a bitch to anyone, however, I'm not going to help people drag me over the cliff.

Basically, the guys are going to waste three days working on something the boss will more than likely hate. I'm going to stay out of it as much as I can, and offer minimal, if any, input.

BTW.. we could have had this settled yesterday with the bosses ad and a few tweaks to text that I sent to him.

But hey... do something that looks like everything else, and do exactly what the boss has said he does not want to do. I'm cool with that.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 11:06 PM (aT+Bx)

333 John Kerry 2004: "President Clinton was often known as the first black president," John Kerry told the American Urban Radio Network last week. "I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second."

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Suck on that, Shaun King!

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 17, 2017 11:06 PM (Nwg0u)

334 53 Julie Christie

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (pY+s4)

But oh so gorgeous.



And easily the most beautiful woman in the world when this movie came out. She was so stunning.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 17, 2017 11:07 PM (pY+s4)

335 The authorities should make recreational marijuana abundantly available and free, free, FREE on election day! Just sayin'...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 11:07 PM (e9G8E)

336 I had knee and thigh issues last year (bad pull of the quadriceps, took me 6 months to get it right again) Tramadol is the most worthless "pain reliever" I've ever tried, aspirin did more for me than tranny doll did. Luckily I've been mostly pretty healthy and haven't needed much medicine, but when I have percocet was the only thing that I thought really worked for me.

yeah I know what percocet is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2017 11:08 PM (V2Yro)

337 Jim Croce had such a cool look. Like the 70's groucho.

my first husband looked sort of like him. he was serbo-croatian.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 11:08 PM (6Xf+s)

338
I'll leave the Light beer to the ladies.

-Budweiser
-Warsteiner
-Harp
-Guiness
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:02 PM (Ckg4U)

Budweiser is a light beer.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:08 PM (dKiJG)

339 SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/886999738805047296

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/886999847328415744

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/886999947362676737

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/887000056775270400

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/887000174672924673

Posted by: kbdabear at July 17, 2017 11:09 PM (AOrEZ)

340 I'm 2.5 years on from my knee replacement . . . it could be better I guess, but it could be a LOT worse. I can (for instance) shoot baskets in the gym with minimal concern. But it's taken quite a bit of work to get to that point.
Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:00 PM (s5o+q)

Glad you're playing hoops. I gave up officiating both BB & FB.

No infection, something about too much movement/too loose. It still is too loose.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:09 PM (ZTRlp)

341 "Budweiser is a light beer."
-Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:08 PM (dKiJG)

You think you're better'n me?

*spits tubacky*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:09 PM (Ckg4U)

342 @262,

They gave my friend Valium to try and control the leg spasms. It didnt work. And it was pretty easy to tell that the meds they tried didn't work because you could watch his lef spasms. Medical marijuana worked.

Did some states use medical marijuana as a gateway towards legalizing recreational pot? Of course. That does not change the fact, born out by studies, that there are medical uses for marijuana

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:09 PM (Lqy/e)

343 The Democrats have produced some bad Presidents. And beyond bad, like Carter and Obama and Wilson. But perhaps none so hapless as the also-rans. Can you imagine, really imagine

President Gore
President Kerry
President Dukakis

===

WTF!!?!

What am I, chopped liver?!

Posted by: President Hillary Goddamn Clinton at July 17, 2017 11:10 PM (iynDC)

344 I don't even entertain the medical marijuana debate. It's really just a talking point to mask what is truly desired, recreational pot.

You can't really have medical marijuana in any limited medical fashion because they claim it cures everything from hairy toe knuckles to Stage 4 lymphoma. Talk with one of these pot advocates and they will eventually tell you it's Doc Johnson's Miracle Elixir.

If they would just stick with the "free men should be able to smoke dope" argument, I'd tend to agree with them. Alas, there is nothing more disingenuous than a 22 year old dope-head trying to tell you he's super-keen on it because of his fake concern about childhood seizures.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 17, 2017 11:10 PM (acxjh)

345 Probably belonged on the last "cold civil war" thread:

Warren Zevon: Frank & Jesse James

https://youtu.be/4GtnnbrL6_o

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:10 PM (s5o+q)

346 88 JW

Prayers for your sister, my friend.

Thank you.

Nothing new right now - I believe that today was an Avastin day, but no word yet on how that went.

It's frustrating.

Posted by: ibguy at July 17, 2017 11:10 PM (vUcdz)

347 Get it right! It's penpersonship! You guys are so non-woke! /sarc.

Posted by: Charlene Rosack at July 17, 2017 11:11 PM (2FFnC)

348 More SCIENCE! ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/887000290515353601

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/887000401899290627

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/887000511462944770

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/887000634175754240

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/887000763972681729

Posted by: kbdabear at July 17, 2017 11:12 PM (AOrEZ)

349 Aspirin Is not widely used because of the affects it has on kids. Remember the kids dying from taking aspirin in the 70's

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:12 PM (dKiJG)

350 Time for bed

Posted by: josephistan at July 17, 2017 11:13 PM (ANIFC)

351 I'm 2.5 years on from my knee replacement . . . it could be better I guess, but it could be a LOT worse. I can (for instance) shoot baskets in the gym with minimal concern. But it's taken quite a bit of work to get to that point.
Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:00 PM (s5o+q)

Glad you're playing hoops. I gave up officiating both BB & FB.

No infection, something about too much movement/too loose. It still is too loose.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:09 PM (ZTRlp)


My bionic knee clunks annoyingly almost all the time, and has some lateral instability.

I can easily see how too much movement, especially laterally, could be a big problem, if physical therapy can't sufficiently strengthen the surrounding muscles and ligaments.

Damn.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:13 PM (s5o+q)

352 274,
"John Kerry 2004: "President Clinton was often known as the first black
president," John Kerry told the American Urban Radio Network last week.
"I wouldn't be upset if I could earn the right to be the second.""

Instead he got to play the ass end of the worst 4 legged Sec. of State ever and make Mad Maddy very happy to now be only the third worst.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 17, 2017 11:13 PM (d3wbb)

353 G'Night, josephistan!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:13 PM (Ckg4U)

354 That does not change the fact, born out by studies, that there are medical uses for marijuana

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:09 PM (Lqy/e)


Which studies are you talking about? There were no studies done before states started the farce of "medical marijuana". They just had some chemo patients who claimed that their appetites were restored by pot - pot that they had been buying on the street, since this was all before the medical marijuana craze and the alleged super-special medical marijuana strains ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 11:13 PM (rZ+mb)

355
What am I, chopped liver?!
Posted by: President Hillary Goddamn Clinton


No, chopped liver has value.

Posted by: Walter Mondale at July 17, 2017 11:14 PM (IqV8l)

356
For once I am on the airlines side, I would not want to sit next to or near a kid with lice.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:04 PM (dKiJG)


I wouldn't want to sit next to a kid with or without lice.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:14 PM (ZTRlp)

357 Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 11:05 PM (S6Pax)

Every other abdominal surgery i had they gave me morphine in a pump and it worked. I rubbed my face the whole time. My dr told me that's what junkies do.

The last surgery was bad, the dialuded didn't even take the edge off so i could nap. When I was released and was taking the Percocet, it worked. After i took a dose I could nap.

When I'm in severe pain I don't complain or talk. My husband said that was the quietest 3 months of his life.

Maybe the morphine would have worked better the last surgery.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:14 PM (Ri/rl)

358 I have another friend that needed dental work. The things they gave him to numb him out did not work at all. The dentist used liquid cocaine on the tooth. He couldn't feel a thing after that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:14 PM (Lqy/e)

359 Yet marijuana is listed by the feds as a schedule 1 drug, the most evil of all.
The medical community is having a big pushback now to opioids because they are prescribed so readily and commonly and can lead to addiction

I snapped something in my back doing deadlifts about 9 months ago. I believe i tore a ligament but fortunately didn't do any spinal or nerve damage. The pain was excruciating for the first few days and still quite strong for a few weeks after. The ER prescribed me an opioid. To be honest, it didn't make me feel any better and just made me really sleepy. I wish I had asked if they'd have been willing to write me a scrip for marijuana instead, which is medical-legal in AZ

Posted by: Mst3k at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (MWGj1)

360 Pot and glaucoma. There are studies that it relieves the pressure in the eye.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (Lqy/e)

361 Bruce Langhorne, who recently passed away, lost a good part of his right hand in a fireworks accident when he was a kid. He did a lot of session work in the 1960s. Best known as Mr. Tambourine Man, by the song of the same name. He played guitar on "Don't Think Twice" on Dylan's Freewheelin' album, so being able to pick without all the fingers is doable.

Doc Watson famously only played fingerstyle with thumb and forefinger. It's hard to believe.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (WOjjq)

362 *Budweiser is a light beer.*

Snd that, your Honor, is when the fight started.

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (zcuxU)

363 yeah, the reyes syndrome scare. and then the tylanol tampering scare.


****

on another topic, did you ever read that poor Billie Holiday was sleeping with her grandma, and her grandma died so that Billie woke up to her grandma's being dead next to her?

and also, Billie was arrested on her own deathbed? poor beauty.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (6Xf+s)

364 Budweiser isn't a light beer, it's alcohol content is above what is considered "Light."

Posted by: cm9000 at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (C06tc)

365 Mike, I love Peter Paul & Mary's version of "Early Morning Rain."
Posted by: qdpsteve
------------

Well, Lightfoot lends the tune a sincerity that is lacking in PP&M, for me.

I have the same trouble with covers of many tunes. The songwriter/singer's version may not be as slick, or as orchestrated, but often has more substance.

Here is Townes Van Zandt doing a small-venue Pancho & Lefty. If you know who the chick is that introduces him, you get a BIG gold star.
http://tinyurl.com/ych2ongy


I've never cared for Nelson's version, but enjoy Emmylou Harris's. Here she is, *very* young. Geeze, I feel my old crush returning.
http://tinyurl.com/ych2ongy

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (OdK9v)

366 I can easily see how too much movement, especially laterally, could be a big problem, if physical therapy can't sufficiently strengthen the surrounding muscles and ligaments.

Damn.
Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:13 PM (s5o+q)

I'm doing PT again here at home. Not going to PT at $70/visit. I go back in August to see what he says. MIne still sounds like a bowl of Rice Krispies.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (ZTRlp)

367 Julie Christie

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 17, 2017 10:01 PM (pY+s4)

But oh so gorgeous.


And easily the most beautiful woman in the world when this movie came out. She was so stunning.

Posted by: Puddleglum


Ok, this is odd. The musical interlude features a "Petula" Clark, and there are mentions in the comments of Julie Christie in the context of Dr. Zhivago.

Julie Christie played the role of a woman named Petulia opposite George C. Scott in the move "Petulia".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (/qEW2)

368 Before I go to bed can fellow Morons say a prayer for my wife's coworker, her Daughter 28 has stage 4 cancer and 2 kids.

I can't remember who said earlier they were out of work programer You are in my prayers for a New Job

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (dKiJG)

369 I wouldn't want to sit next to a kid with or without lice.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:14 PM

Additionally, I do not want to sit in front of or in back of a kid with or without lice.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (aT+Bx)

370 344 I don't even entertain the medical marijuana debate. It's really just a talking point to mask what is truly desired, recreational pot.

You can't really have medical marijuana in any limited medical fashion because they claim it cures everything from hairy toe knuckles to Stage 4 lymphoma. Talk with one of these pot advocates and they will eventually tell you it's Doc Johnson's Miracle Elixir.

If they would just stick with the "free men should be able to smoke dope" argument, I'd tend to agree with them. Alas, there is nothing more disingenuous than a 22 year old dope-head trying to tell you he's super-keen on it because of his fake concern about childhood seizures.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 17, 2017 11:10 PM (acxjh)

++++

I am also very suspicious of anyone who claims that marijuana cures anything. It doesn't. But, it does relieve pain.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 17, 2017 11:18 PM (pvjTE)

371 wow Berserker, that's wild about your plane and finger. do you still feel the memory of it when you play? are you a lefty?

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 10:58 PM (6Xf+s)


Nope, I'm a righty, so its the fingering hand. I don't feel it at all, because the way he fixed it. Over time it was like watching a shrinking island. More of my original finger started to take over, and the graft got smaller. My whole fingertip is normal, and a little bit of the fingerprint just looks a little off, like a 1st degree burn. Small area though.

I don't feel it at all, its like it never happened. Actually, I was playing guitar in a week with a tight band aid. All I could do was to rest my finger on the string and make the note, no bends, no leads, just rhythm. But.....I had to play at a benefit in 2 weeks, so I relearned a lot of the leads so I could actually play them with the 3 good fingers. When I had them fix it I thought about all this, because they gave me 3 options. The conversation went exactly like this, trust me its burned in my memory-

Doc- Well there is a few things we can do. We can make an incision in your palm, and bend the finger down to it so the blood feeds your finger.

Me- No way, not happening, not going with my finger bent like that for weeks, it will ruin my playing, I'll never get that finger straightened out in any length of time.

Doc- Ok we can go a graft.

Me- where would you het the skin from?

Doc- We can take it from your butt

Me- are you nuts? I don't play guitar with my frigging ass, I need a tougher skin.

Doc- ok we can take it from the side of your hand.

Me- yeah lets do that.

Sooo, my decision on the skin and finger position had me playing a show in 2 weeks with a band aid, playing lead with 3 fingers, and nobody knew. Once it was healed though, which was around a month, it took about 6 months to feel somewhat normal. I would get certain pain shoots up the arm if I dug in too hard with the tip. It was annoying mostly.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 11:18 PM (aMlLZ)

372 Maybe the morphine would have worked better the last surgery.
Posted by: CaliGirl

You can build up quite a tolerance to it, if over used. And that is the heart of the so-called opioid crisis. Allegedly, the pattern is that people get Percocet, Vicodin (different doses and mixes of Oxycodone, a synthetic opioid with Acetaminophen) and then people (ie kids) stop getting high off it and progress to Heroin. There is plenty of cheap Mexican Brown heroin floating around out there, and plenty of imported Mexicans to sell it.
Thanks Barack!!!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 11:18 PM (S6Pax)

373 "Before I go to bed can fellow Morons say a prayer for my wife's coworker, her Daughter 28 has stage 4 cancer and 2 kids."
-Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (dKiJG)

Done, Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:18 PM (Ckg4U)

374 "And easily the most beautiful woman in the world when this movie came out. She was so stunning."

Wasn't she though. Still gorgeous by the time she was in "Heaven Can Wait"

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 11:19 PM (jm1YL)

375 The problem with pain killers is they have such a different effect on different people. Most Opioid pain killers make me sleep. Not just a few hours but one time 30 straight hours.

The plus side to that is they have little chance to be addictive for me as I sleep through the high.

Local pain killers seem to do nothing making going to the dentist a real pain.

Posted by: Big V at July 17, 2017 11:20 PM (qnAGA)

376 Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 10:08 PM (WBYpW)

Prayers for Lisa.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:20 PM (Ri/rl)

377 349 Aspirin Is not widely used because of the affects it has on kids. Remember the kids dying from taking aspirin in the 70's
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:12 PM (dKiJG)


I thought the Reyes syndrome only happened when the kids had the flu?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 17, 2017 11:20 PM (1JnAL)

378 362 *Budweiser is a light beer.*

Snd that, your Honor, is when the fight started.
Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (zcuxU)

Well it's a foreign Beer.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:21 PM (dKiJG)

379 JC was incredibly beautiful in Heaven Can Wait.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 11:21 PM (PUmDY)

380 I'm doing PT again here at home. Not going to PT at $70/visit. I go back in August to see what he says. MIne still sounds like a bowl of Rice Krispies.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (ZTRlp)


And of course, because of Obamacare, the guy who did my knee replacement surgery is no longer in network.

Obama and all who follow him can die in the fire of a thousand suns as far as I'm concerned.

I *liked* my orthopedic surgeon who did my knee. Who happened to be one of the highest rated ones in the KC metro area, naturally.

Die, Obamacare, Die!

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:21 PM (s5o+q)

381 368 Before I go to bed can fellow Morons say a prayer for my wife's coworker, her Daughter 28 has stage 4 cancer and 2 kids.

I can't remember who said earlier they were out of work programer You are in my prayers for a New Job
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (dKiJG)


Prayers up, May God heal her.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:21 PM (Ri/rl)

382 *I can easily see how too much movement, especially laterally, could be a big problem, if physical therapy can't sufficiently strengthen the surrounding muscles and ligaments.

Damn.
Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:13 PM (s5o+q)*

And this is why I want to hang on to God given knees as long as possible.

And, no. I do not mean to assume my situation is the same as any Moron/ Ette out there.

Posted by: tbodie at July 17, 2017 11:22 PM (zcuxU)

383 "Seriously, WTF doesn't offend these asswipes?"

That's just the Chinese Communist Party flexing its muscle on American university campuses. So, not SJW related, but just as worrisome.

Posted by: JSchuler at July 17, 2017 11:22 PM (YsGL+)

384 "JC was incredibly beautiful in Heaven Can Wait."

She had one of those faces that the camera loves and incredibly expressive eyes.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (jm1YL)

385 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (mknWS)

386 Sorry, Tuna. Did not see your post

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (PUmDY)

387 Dija know lice are totally harmless? They don't spread any disease and they're not even really true parasites -- they eat dandruff - a waste product!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (e9G8E)

388 @344 marijuana is a pretty effective pain reliever. And restoring appetite is a fair enough quality on its own.

Someone not named mst3k who might have choomed in college (but that's ok you can still be president) told me through a little birdie once that it is quite effective when you're feeling ill or otherwise bad from a whole host of reasons.

Even aside from that, i don't care whether it's medicinal or not. It should be recreational-legal. Yes the medical argument is a red herring, because adults shouldnt have to plead before the taliban about proving a medicinal use for something they should be able to do anyway.
It's somewhat akin to the jurisdictions which require you prove to some jackass sheriff that you really "need" a gun to have a carry permit

Posted by: Mst3k at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (MWGj1)

389 "Aspirin Is not widely used because of the affects it has on kids."

Aspirin use is discouraged because no drug company can get a patent on it and because of that it will always be incredibly cheap for that reason.

The big bugaboo, Reyes syndrome, only occurs in children and only when they're grossly overmedicated. And even then only a small fraction of the time. Totally safe for adults.

and, btw, the one they love the most, acetaminophen, has been shown in tests to have almost NO fever reducing ability, and works mainly as a placebo. My father almost died of an uncontrollable fever in a hospital while suffering from pneumonia because they kept giving him tylenol based concoctions to lower his fever. It ended up being left to me, NOT a medical professional, to tell the night nurses to get an emergency order from the doctor to switch his meds and heavily dose him with aspirin to break the 104 degree fever he had at the time. They were so desperate that they actually listened to me.

Yeah, I was right. And it worked. They get so stuck on following the book that they can't see when the book is actually killing the patient.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (V2Yro)

390 Can't wait to see the list of GOP Senators who previously voted for repeal when Zero was President but won't vote for repeal now that it would actually mean repeal. Their careers are o-ver.

Posted by: The Congresscritter Unemployment Act at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (qYCgM)

391 Patrick From Ohio - They are on my prayer list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (OdK9v)

392 I wouldn't want to sit next to a kid with or without lice.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:14 PM

Additionally, I do not want to sit in front of or in back of a kid with or without lice.

Posted by: shibumi


I'm not asking you to catch my lice. Just vote for me.

Posted by: Kid Rock at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (/qEW2)

393 Budweiser isn't a light beer, it's alcohol content is above what is considered "Light."

The only legal requirement to be branded as a "Light beer" is that the beer must contain 1 few calories than the beer for which it is named and must contain less alcohol.

Thus, if Budweiser has 150 calories and was 5% ABV then Bud Light must contain no more than 149 calories and 4.99% ABV.

There is no law, however, that says a "Light" beer can't be over a certain percentage of alcohol other than in relation to its name sake.

As for a beer classification among brewers a "Light" is more likely classified as a "Blonde" as a style.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (H8DUW)

394 wait until lesbians are running the casting couches.
I saw a documentary about that once on Cinemax.

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (nlbfN)

395 So do the states that have "legalized" weed, do they allow the citizenry to grow it at home should they wish? I'm going to go out on a limb and say "no"??

I was always a little taken aback by the folks who would reflexively say "The government should legalize it and tax the shit out of it!"

When I offered that maybe they could just leave people the fuck alone and quit stealing people's money, they couldn't process that.I don't smoke the shit, but if I did growing it st home would make sense. It's a weed, can't be too tough.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (WOjjq)

396 Pot and glaucoma. There are studies that it relieves the pressure in the eye.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (Lqy/e)


Is that it? Were these studies done with normal street pot or super-special medical weed? I mean, how did they develop the super-special medical weed before they even knew what it was going to be used for - before the studies?

Look, I love pot, but this medical marijuana thing has never really been anything but bullshit. They've had cannabanoids in pill form for some time ... but no one was ever interested in them. Most of the people smoking "medical marijuana" are just smoking good old weed. I have tried all sorts of strains, myself, and I know there are quite a range available but the idea that there are some specific weed types that the medical folks are getting is a bit ridiculous. They have been smoking pretty much any weed they could get. Some grow their own. Some got it on the street. Some just pick their favorite strains from the now-legal pot stores.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 11:25 PM (rZ+mb)

397 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM

Prayers up, Patrick.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 11:25 PM (q1+kD)

398 I have had 2 c-sections, hysterectomy, rotator cuff surgery, heart attack and pacemaker implant, and had my finger reattached to my hand, but the worst pain I ever had was when I had to have 2 discs replaced in my neck. I couldn't get enough pain killer. Every time I moved my neck even a tiny bit, it shot lightening bolts down my spine. It was six weeks of sheer hell. Now I have arthritis in my neck and when it flares up, I am down for the count. All the pain meds make me itch but its worth it for the relief.

Posted by: Abby at July 17, 2017 11:25 PM (HBU7W)

399 Lauren Hutton was up there with Julie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 11:25 PM (PUmDY)

400 379 JC was incredibly beautiful in Heaven Can Wait.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 11:21 PM (PUmDY)

++++

Yes she was, as was Dyan Cannon. But, JC had that sweet take her home to mother kind of vibe, while DC, well she had that f'me thing going on.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 17, 2017 11:26 PM (pvjTE)

401 I wouldn't want to sit next to a kid with or without lice.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:14 PM

Additionally, I do not want to sit in front of or in back of a kid with or without lice.


Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 11:17 PM (aT+Bx)




Nah, kids are not lice. Kids are fleas, with similar boundless energy.

*grimaces at endless kicking in the back of his seat from seat 23-C.*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2017 11:26 PM (v5iqM)

402 re the opiod crisis. At the grocery pharmacy here; they have a sign up that "Anyone can get naxloxone, no prescription needed, you could save a life" This is one area where I fit the stereotype of the heartless conservative. I have zero intention of shelling out money so that I could keep an addict alive. If you want to gamble with your life for a stupid high I am not interfering when the dice come up snake eyes.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 17, 2017 11:26 PM (eASYU)

403 3 Musketeers on TCM. I just realized that the actor who plays Michael Yorks father in the beginning is the guy who played the bad guy in the second Lethal Weapon movie. He always looked old I guess.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 17, 2017 11:26 PM (pY+s4)

404 We can take it from your butt

Me- are you nuts? I don't play guitar with my frigging ass,


lol. you're a tough one.

once I strained my left middle by taking a raging lunatic girl off another's back and depositing her out the door. while i had my arms around her from the back, she wrenched that finger sideways from the knuckle.

after dropping her outside and shutting the door, i noticed the crazy finger and straightened it but had to go to the ER and then wear a cast of sorts on it.

it looked like one of those 'we're #1!' things, but on my middle fuckyou finger. heh.

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (6Xf+s)

405 Hi ibguy,

Thanks. Does the Avastian seem to help Joyce? The doc mentioned that as a possibility for Lisa. She has been on Temodar, but seems to have reached some sort of limit. I'm just waiting on an email from her husband about what they learned from the doc today. Then we may have some sort of decision to make. I just don't know. Super frustrating.

My continued prayers for Joyce, you and your family. Hang in there.
And thanks to LadyLibetarian and the rest of you.

Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (WBYpW)

406 Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:21 PM (s5o+q)

My current orthopod claims he has to spend an extra 20-30 minutes per patient for the paperwork, coding, etc.

I don't doubt it, he's 65 I expect him to retire soon. Which is too bad, because I like him and respect him. My last doc was basically a factory, although he came recommended by several people.

No surgery is guaranteed, but I had been so looking forward to it and it hasn't come close whatsoever in what I was hoping for.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (ZTRlp)

407 Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 11:18 PM (S6Pax)

That is scary.

The last surgery I had where they used dilauded was much more serious and with a huge abdominal incision. Stem to stern.
My previous surgery was about 10 years prior.

I don't ever want to be addicted to something like that.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (Ri/rl)

408

It's pronounced bouquet list, you low brow people.

Posted by: Hyacinth Bucket at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (8O3HH)

409 Budweiser is a light beer.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio


Budweiser is swill. Lagers are boring anyway. Give me a nice, hoppy, pumpkin ale any day.

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (/qEW2)

410 387; so, the homeless are ahead of the curve? good to know.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (KP5rU)

411 I am under the impression that left-handed new players are encouraged to learn the same way as everyone else, so that way they don't limit the guitars they can buy.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 17, 2017 11:04 PM (rnAwa)



Everyone's born right-handed.

The athletically gifted overcome it.

Posted by: Charlie Gard at July 17, 2017 11:27 PM (SRKgf)

412 i love Tom Courtnay in "The Dresser."
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I like Prince Albert in The Can.


Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2017 10:11 PM (IqV8l)


I like Sir Golfsalot in The Can.

Posted by: Reggie The Body Man at July 17, 2017 11:28 PM (84p6I)

413 396 Pot and glaucoma. There are studies that it relieves the pressure in the eye.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:16 PM (Lqy/e) ------

I have glaucoma and my ophthalmologist said I would have to smoke 24 hours a day to get the same results I get with my eye meds.

Posted by: Abby at July 17, 2017 11:28 PM (HBU7W)

414 When I had my wisdom teeth pulled, I was given Percocet. (Codeine and an NSAID) Relived my pain, but got me way too high. My dentist called that night and I couldn't name the football teams I was watching. Within 24 hours, the pain got to the point where I could stop taking the pills.

I had a tooth extraction years later and was given Hydrocodone. (generic Oxy) That didn't relieve my pain at all and just hurt my stomach.

In both cases, the pain was so bad, no marijuana product would've helped.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 11:28 PM (70QTT)

415 Re: glaucoma, the eye pressure needs to be reduced ALL THE TIME. Getting high lowers the pressure for only a couple of hours. So you would need to be high ALL THE TIME for it be an effective glaucoma medication.

Yet the myth persists.

Posted by: Glaucoma Guy at July 17, 2017 11:28 PM (qYCgM)

416 Abby - I was going to complain about the wasp that stung me today...but, never mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 17, 2017 11:28 PM (OdK9v)

417 134,
" Maybe it affects people differently."

That it, and every drug, does. About 5% of the population will get addicted after a month or so of using opioids. It's about the same for alcohol. And barbiturates I think. Meth is higher as is cocaine but I can't remember how high and the psychological addiction to them is strong. Nicotine is about 90%. This is physical addiction.

Whether you get addicted is like Russian roulette. You don't know what your own reaction will be and finding out has real risks even outside of the legal ones. However opioid use for real pain has a lesser chance of addiction and if the pain is chronic and can't be relieved any other way then so what.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 17, 2017 11:28 PM (d3wbb)

418 I'm sure what's in this Budweiser swill, but I shouldn't be surprised if it contains more than just water, barley, and hops...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 11:29 PM (e9G8E)

419 I just remember a little girl that died from Reye's syndrome next door and I clearly remember my mother dumping all the aspirin down the drain and she muttering what the hell were they doing over and over.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:29 PM (dKiJG)

420 I'll leave the Light beer to the ladies.

-Budweiser
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my irony meter just exploded

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 11:30 PM (y94N4)

421 I was always a little taken aback by the folks who would reflexively say "The government should legalize it and tax the shit out of it!"

When I offered that maybe they could just leave people the fuck alone and quit stealing people's money, they couldn't process that.I don't smoke the shit, but if I did growing it st home would make sense. It's a weed, can't be too tough.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (WOjjq)


I was one of those people for a long time.

I've "evolved" to the position were the only (or alternatively, the "least bad") form of taxation is a retail sales tax.

That way, the government has a positive incentive to keep the market economy as profitable as it can.

Income taxes are (as implemented, if not as conceived) inherently unfair (i.e. taxing people unequally---what the fuck is up with a "progressive" tax regime where some people's money is taxed higher than somebody else's?).

Property taxes are nothing more than asserting that you do not actually "own" "your" property . . . you're just renting it from the gov'ment.

Nope.

Consumption taxes . . . retail sales taxes . . . are by far the "fairest" of any tax system you can conceive.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:30 PM (s5o+q)

422 The medical weed is nothing special. yeah they claim oh hey smoke this if you want to veg, oh smoke this if you want to paint the house, oh smoke this if your left ass cheek hurts etc etc. Maybe it works, who knows.

I have friends who have the card, and as far as horsepower goes its no better than some of the really good street weed.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 11:30 PM (aMlLZ)

423 400; dyan cannon was hot back in the day. she always did it for me.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:31 PM (KP5rU)

424 I'm sure what's in this Budweiser swill, but I shouldn't be surprised if it contains more than just water, barley, and hops...
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rice, IIRC, among other things, and aged with beachwood chips too

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 11:31 PM (y94N4)

425 Alberta Oil Peon: Possibly. I've done a lot of work in Linux; with a good specification doc I could probably get you what you need. Again, shoot me an email if you're serious.

Posted by: Viridian at July 17, 2017 10:53 PM (mVnZo)

e-mail sent

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 11:31 PM (XUcIQ)

426 Posted by: Abby at July 17, 2017 11:25 PM (HBU7W)

I feel you. Ive had 2 cervical fusions. Ive never been the same. I use anti inflammatory meds, I have Lidoderm patches. Ive found exercise and ice and heat have helped the most.
My back always hurts but as long as I exercise I'm okay.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:31 PM (Ri/rl)

427 Hannity said that there were over 100 GOP members of congress that have no intention of overturning Obamacare.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 17, 2017 11:31 PM (C06tc)

428 402 re the opiod crisis. At the grocery pharmacy here; they have a sign up that "Anyone can get naxloxone, no prescription needed, you could save a life" This is one area where I fit the stereotype of the heartless conservative. I have zero intention of shelling out money so that I could keep an addict alive. If you want to gamble with your life for a stupid high I am not interfering when the dice come up snake eyes.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 17, 2017 11:26 PM (eASYU)


At best, you're only delaying the inevitable.

Posted by: Charlie Gard at July 17, 2017 11:32 PM (SRKgf)

429 Light beer is commercially made by the addition of filtered water in most cases, to a beer that is already pretty light.

Hefe Weissen is nectar of the gods, it was cheap when I was stationed over there. The local civilians working on base were allowed two beers at lunch, part of their union contract.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:32 PM (WOjjq)

430 They've had cannabanoids in pill form for some time ... but no one was ever interested in them.

----------------------------------------

Cannabanoids don't survive the liver. Best way to take them is sublingual.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 11:32 PM (70QTT)

431 You are telling me your experience. I have a lot more experience in this than you. I have smoked all kinds of recreational pot including hash back in the day. I took one hit of my friends stuff and it was a mistake. It did not get you high and it was not fun. You were seriously drugged. It is not the same stuff. And yes, people used what they had and what they could get. My friend did the same. This is not old school ditch weed.

I mentioned glaucoma because that's the one that got a lot of attention. There is some work being done with cannabis oil and COPD. There could be studies to find out where it's effective if pot was removed from Schedule 1.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:32 PM (Lqy/e)

432 FoxNews just reported that McConnell has conceded that repeal and replace has failed, so will try to pass a repeal only. Why do I believe that he wants that to fail, and will just make a token effort?

Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 11:32 PM (WBYpW)

433 395 So do the states that have "legalized" weed, do they allow the citizenry to grow it at home should they wish? I'm going to go out on a limb and say "no"??

I was always a little taken aback by the folks who would reflexively say "The government should legalize it and tax the shit out of it!"

When I offered that maybe they could just leave people the fuck alone and quit stealing people's money, they couldn't process that.I don't smoke the shit, but if I did growing it st home would make sense. It's a weed, can't be too tough.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (WOjjq)


Most states that have legalized allow for individuals to have up to three plants for personal use, IIRC.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 17, 2017 11:33 PM (1JnAL)

434 "I had a tooth extraction years later and was given Hydrocodone. (generic Oxy) That didn't relieve my pain at all and just hurt my stomach. "

Just something about tooth extractions drives people to distraction pain wise. Like I said above, the wisdom teeth extraction and resultant dry socket was the worst pain I've ever had. The hip replacement didn't even come close.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 11:34 PM (jm1YL)

435 re the opiod crisis. At the grocery pharmacy here; they have a sign up that "Anyone can get naxloxone, no prescription needed, you could save a life" This is one area where I fit the stereotype of the heartless conservative. I have zero intention of shelling out money so that I could keep an addict alive. If you want to gamble with your life for a stupid high I am not interfering when the dice come up snake eyes.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 17, 2017 11:26 PM (eASYU)


My reaction is an impulse to walk up to the prescription window and say "Okay, gimme."

Just because.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:34 PM (s5o+q)

436 Repeal won't come to a vote. Too many careers would die that day.

Maybe Congress will just go on recess until January 2019.

Posted by: Sen. Flip Flop at July 17, 2017 11:34 PM (qYCgM)

437 repeal only
repeal only
repeal only


let's just dig on that for a minute, and not worry about the rest

Posted by: booknlass at July 17, 2017 11:34 PM (6Xf+s)

438 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 17, 2017 11:34 PM (IcT7t)

439 rice, IIRC, among other things, and aged with beachwood chips too


Posted by: redc1c4 at July 17, 2017 11:31 PM (y94N4)


So, a 'gay' beer, then?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 11:34 PM (e9G8E)

440 Everyone wants to pick on my beer.

*sigh*

For All I Be, This Bud's for Me!

*burp*

Excuse me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:35 PM (Ckg4U)

441 402 re the opiod crisis. At the grocery pharmacy here; they have a sign up that "Anyone can get naxloxone, no prescription needed, you could save a life" This is one area where I fit the stereotype of the heartless conservative. I have zero intention of shelling out money so that I could keep an addict alive. If you want to gamble with your life for a stupid high I am not interfering when the dice come up snake eyes.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 17, 2017 11:26 PM (eASYU)

--------------------------------------------

One of my close friends died of a heroin OD. But why should I carry naloxone?

I may suspect that someone does that shit, but they know damn well not to do it in front of me. I'd never be in a position to help.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 11:35 PM (70QTT)

442 And thanks for the Petula Clark song. She could really belt me out

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2017 11:35 PM (eP+dt)

443 I hate Millennials but damn if I don't love how craft Beer has exploded.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:36 PM (dKiJG)

444 432: because that is just what that nicklefucker is going to do. he's a gutless, spineless, crooked, pile of dogshit. the guy is a fucking embarrassment.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:36 PM (KP5rU)

445 Aspirin Is not widely used because of the affects it has on kids. Remember the kids dying from taking aspirin in the 70's

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:12 PM (dKiJG)


Reye syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reye_syndrome

The fact of the matter is that if aspirin (which, BTW, was the trademarked brand name that Bayer used until it's U.S. trademark was pulled during WWI) were introduced today, the FDA would never approve it. Not just because of Reye syndrome, but because it is an extensive blood thinner, amongst other reasons.

That being said, it's still a lot better (for adults) than a lot of other drugs out there...

Posted by: The Acetylsalicylic Hat at July 17, 2017 11:36 PM (vBeA5)

446 Zee Bavarian Purity Laws allow for only ein bier!!!

Posted by: adolf h. at July 17, 2017 11:37 PM (nlbfN)

447 Oh, sure. Great Lakes Brewery makes at least five different beers that I'd drink any day. I just enjoy my lawnmower beer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:37 PM (Ckg4U)

448 I am also very suspicious of anyone who claims that marijuana cures anything. It doesn't. But, it does relieve pain.

Agreed. Cannabanoids, at least to this point, have not been shown to have any curative properties. They may, as you note, have positive palliative effects for certain maladies.

I often ask people that claim it shrinks tumors or other such outlandish claims if marijuana is the preferred treatment for cancer patients in countries that have fully legal medical marijuana.

They must invariably admit that it is not used in those countries. With that said, I'm not sure why it would be excluded from being used in clinical research where perhaps some curative applications might be discovered. Many effective medications have been derived from botanical sources over time.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 17, 2017 11:37 PM (H8DUW)

449 Consumption taxes . . . retail sales taxes . . . are by far the "fairest" of any tax system you can conceive.
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Maybe, but I was pointing out the underlying assumptions that are implied by this reasoning. Were they against the legalization of weed unless and until or only it could be taxed "the shit out of"? Why is weed singled out? I don't pay taxes on my houseplants. Groceries or staples in many or most states aren't taxed.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:37 PM (WOjjq)

450 "And thanks for the Petula Clark song. She could really belt me out"

And she always wore the cutest dresses. Very Mod as we used to say.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 11:38 PM (jm1YL)

451 slap, as long as you're not drinking zima, the h8ters can piss off. why they care what you drink?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:38 PM (KP5rU)

452 Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:37 PM (WOjjq)

They don't call them "Sin Taxes" for nothing.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 11:38 PM (ZTRlp)

453 If you are being fucked by Obamacare, you can keep your being fucked by Obamacare. You're welcome.

Posted by: Sen. Corrupticus Douchbag, Donkeyphant at July 17, 2017 11:38 PM (qYCgM)

454 re: addiction; people make a big deal about physical addiction, but it's not nearly as hard to get over as psychological addiction. (basically the addicted mindset)

My wife had a 16" rod placed in her spine to treat scoliosis a few years back - about as major a surgery as you can have, since they basically deconstructed most of her spine and then put it back together again with pins and wires. She was on a heavy duty morphine drip and dilaudid, etc, for about 6 weeks, past the physical addiction point. When it came time to cut those down, as the bone was knitting back together, she had to go through the whole withdrawal thing - fever, shakes, some hallucinating. But having said that, it wasn't any worse than a really bad 3 day flu, and once she came out of it she was fine, since she'd never had the psychological addiction - just the physical. Probably typical of most people who've been through major reconstructive surgery.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2017 11:38 PM (V2Yro)

455 And what is the reasoning for "legalizing" weed, but disallowing anyone to grow it? Could it be - they just want the money?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:39 PM (WOjjq)

456 Consumption taxes . . . retail sales taxes . . . are by far the "fairest" of any tax system you can conceive.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:30 PM (s5o+q)


I much prefer having to pay sales tax on what little taxable items I buy instate, than having to spend a single cent on state income taxes, or more than a pittance in property taxes.

Posted by: The Somewhat-Taxed Hat at July 17, 2017 11:39 PM (vBeA5)

457 Marijuana helps glaucoma patients because it is a known vasodilator and relieves pressure in the eyeball.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 17, 2017 11:39 PM (70QTT)

458 MiddleTown had a guy OD like over 30 times and they brought him back. They really should be locked up for 30 days

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:40 PM (dKiJG)

459 "slap, as long as you're not drinking zima, the h8ters can piss off. why they care what you drink?"
-Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:38 PM (KP5rU)

That's why I left it off where I did. *shrugs*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:40 PM (Ckg4U)

460 Well Filbert I think I mis-typed and the sign says "anyone can BUY the opioid anti-dote" I suppose if I had family that I thought might be an addict I might have a different viewpoint, but I read that sign like "buy this and if you notice a passed out addict on the bus or in the mall etc you can be a hero" for me its a big PASS.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 17, 2017 11:40 PM (eASYU)

461 It ended up being left to me, NOT a medical professional, to tell the night nurses to get an emergency order from the doctor to switch his meds and heavily dose him with aspirin to break the 104 degree fever he had at the time. They were so desperate that they actually listened to me.

Yeah, I was right. And it worked. They get so stuck on following the book that they can't see when the book is actually killing the patient.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2017 11:23 PM (V2Yro)


Medicine is an Art pretending to be a Science.

Medical practices are generally derived from trial and error, not from any rigorous, statistically valid analysis. (Look up how many medical "studies" are not reproducible . . . )

What medicine does well, it does pretty well . . . what it doesn't do well, it does dreadfully poorly.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:41 PM (s5o+q)

462
There are as many opiates/opioids as there are NSAIDs. Many different molecules that will hit those receptors. Hydrocodone is a different molecule than oxycodone, but they are similar.

IIRC, fentanyl is about the strongest one there is, and that is bad about ODing, because there is a difference of over 10 - 100x the dose for the same effect. Dosages are in 100s of ug, not mg.

So, some idiot takes a milligram does and promptly ODs.



Posted by: Hyacinth Bucket at July 17, 2017 11:41 PM (8O3HH)

463 Question for the Horde...

So this girl at work .I've been intersted in tells me she might be leaving in a couple of months to move out of town (actually to another town not really all that far away).

Sooooo, I've been really hesitant. I think me and this girl have at least a few things in common, and I'd really like to get to know her better. Thing is she's sixteen years younger than me (she's 21) and is drop dead gorgeous while I'm kind of this dopey pudgy older guy.

But now I'm really considering asking her out. Realistically, I would pull my head out of my ass upon the ralization of how terrible the odds are. Or Should I give it a try? How would I broach it without making an ass out of myself?

I should just drink more and consider getting another cat.

Posted by: Robert should have joined a monestary at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM (mknWS)

464 on the topic of death by Heroin OD - every time I see someone else challenging the Death Penalty because the injected chemicals are so "cruel and unusual", I wonder, why not just administer the subject a 10X lethal dose of Heroin? Guaranteed to work, you can buy it on the street, and the perp will probably die with a smile on his face. Something for everybody there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM (V2Yro)

465 Most states that have legalized allow for individuals to have up to three plants for personal use, IIRC.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper

I think I read that law enforcement in Colorado was in a real quandry. By law, people are allowed to have up to something like 99 plants. So a lot of "growers" are raising MJ legally in Colorado, and then carting it off to neighboring states and selling it for a huge profit "illegally". Well, who could have seen that coming?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM (S6Pax)

466 If you like not being able to find a doctor who will take your crappy Obamacare plan, you can keep your not being able to find a doctor who will take your crappy Obamacare plan. You're welcome. Now lick my balls, peasants.

Posted by: Sen. Corrupticus Douchbag, Donkeyphant at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM (qYCgM)

467 Could the GOP have a worse public face than Mitch McConnell? I mean just from an optics standpoint. The Democrats would never have this.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 17, 2017 11:43 PM (C06tc)

468 Yuengling Amber Lager (both regular and light) are my go to good solid beers. For the craft beers, Devils Backbone for the most part.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 17, 2017 11:43 PM (pY+s4)

469 Drop the bomb. EXTERMINATE THEM ALL

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 17, 2017 11:43 PM (ETqL0)

470 You are telling me your experience. I have a lot more experience in this than you. I have smoked all kinds of recreational pot including hash back in the day.

I seriously doubt you have smoked even half as much weed as I have. I used to eat hash by the handful. In case you're wondering ... that's a shitload of hash - in addition to smoking it from morning to night.

I took one hit of my friends stuff and it was a mistake. It did not get you high and it was not fun. You were seriously drugged. It is not the same stuff.

That is your argument? Dude ...

And yes, people used what they had and what they could get. My friend did the same. This is not old school ditch weed.

Yeah ... I hear all the same shit about the new super-weeds that are around. Usually I hear it from people who know nothing about weed. I smoked all the Hawaiian sativa (which has a very different high) and humbolt indica and all sorts of special breeds that people are oohing and aahing about now. No, you don't trip (as many have hyped - of course, only someone who has never actually tripped would claim that any of this weed was even 1/100th a hit of acid) and it's nothing so totally out of the ordinary. Strong weed ... yeah, but still just weed.

I mentioned glaucoma because that's the one that got a lot of attention. There is some work being done with cannabis oil and COPD. There could be studies to find out where it's effective if pot was removed from Schedule 1.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 17, 2017 11:32 PM (Lqy/e)


Cannabis oil and COPD ... really? Smoking it? Eating it? Sounds weird. Really weird. I'd take a huge amount of action against this. Huge!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 17, 2017 11:43 PM (rZ+mb)

471 "My wife had a 16" rod placed in her spine to treat scoliosis a few years back - about as major a surgery as you can have, since they basically deconstructed most of her spine and then put it back together again with pins and wires. She was on a heavy duty morphine drip and dilaudid, etc, for about 6 weeks, past the physical addiction point. When it came time to cut those down, as the bone was knitting back together, she had to go through the whole withdrawal thing - fever, shakes, some hallucinating. But having said that, it wasn't any worse than a really bad 3 day flu, and once she came out of it she was fine, since she'd never had the psychological addiction - just the physical. Probably typical of most people who've been through major reconstructive surgery."

My admiration for her knows no bounds. That must have an ordeal. I hope the reconstruction has made life easier for her.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2017 11:44 PM (jm1YL)

472 Dudes! Dudes! The weevils are after my flour sacks!!! Big, 8-inch weevils!!! None of them are lessors!!! And there are more than two!!!

Posted by: andycanuck after cracking some ribs at July 17, 2017 11:44 PM (nlbfN)

473 398 I have had 2 c-sections, hysterectomy, rotator cuff surgery, heart attack and pacemaker implant, and had my finger reattached to my hand, but the worst pain I ever had was when I had to have 2 discs replaced in my neck. I couldn't get enough pain killer. Every time I moved my neck even a tiny bit, it shot lightening bolts down my spine. It was six weeks of sheer hell. Now I have arthritis in my neck and when it flares up, I am down for the count. All the pain meds make me itch but its worth it for the relief.
Posted by: Abby at July 17, 2017 11:25 PM (HBU7W)

Talk to you doctor about Voltaren, it's for rheumatoid arthritis, but my doctor prescribed it for my neck a few years ago. Every time that my neck starts to lock up, I'll take one before bed, and another in the morning, and it's like all the inflammation is gone.

They make a cream for it too, but it's can't be used on the spine.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 17, 2017 11:45 PM (1JnAL)

474 Maybe, but I was pointing out the underlying assumptions that are implied by this reasoning. Were they against the legalization of weed unless and until or only it could be taxed "the shit out of"? Why is weed singled out? I don't pay taxes on my houseplants. Groceries or staples in many or most states aren't taxed.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:37 PM (WOjjq)


Actually, as a recovering libertarian, I'm still sympathetic to the argument that, for instance, opioids ought to be "legalized" and that legal sales of them should be allowed but taxed.

As I said, I'm a *recovering* libertarian. That means that I've had sufficient experience in the real world to understand that ideology must in the end defer to reality.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:45 PM (s5o+q)

475 The fact of the matter is that if aspirin (which, BTW, was the trademarked brand name that Bayer used until it's U.S. trademark was pulled during WWI) were introduced today, the FDA would never approve it. Not just because of Reye syndrome, but because it is an extensive blood thinner, amongst other reasons.


In the pharma industry this is a standing joke. Acetylsalicylic acid wouldn't have a dog's chance of getting approved nowadays. Just the stomach toxicity would suffice to 86 it.

Posted by: Charlie Gard at July 17, 2017 11:45 PM (SRKgf)

476 I should just drink more and consider getting another cat.
Posted by: Robert should have joined a monestary at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM (mknWS)

She is very young, but all she can do is say no. Go for it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (Ri/rl)

477 Which Pink Panther movie had Dyan? Seems like it was the
I think it was the Toulouse costume one.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (PUmDY)

478 sock off

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (SRKgf)

479 Dudes! Dudes! The weevils are after my flour sacks!!! Big, 8-inch weevils!!! None of them are lessors!!! And there are more than two!!!
Posted by: andycanuck after cracking some ribs at July 17, 2017 11:44 PM (nlbfN)


Fucking weevils.

Give them some Valu-Rite.

They can't handle their liquor.

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (s5o+q)

480 I'm not entirely sure why the Feds don't just prohibit OxyContin.

It did so with Quaaludes many years ago.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (H8DUW)

481 They don't call them "Sin Taxes" for nothing.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


But what if using marijuana isn't sinful? Then that would be a Sin Tax error.

Posted by: Applesoft BASIC interpreter at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (/qEW2)

482 472.

*pours andy a double methylene chloride with an acetone chaser.*

Drink up, and you'll forget all about it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (TwwWO)

483 Fuck me and I just spilled my drink.

Posted by: Robert is a tad annoyed now at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (mknWS)

484 Still not doing phrasing, I see...

Posted by: SMFH at July 17, 2017 11:47 PM (s5Kql)

485 463: so many things.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:47 PM (KP5rU)

486 filbert at July 17, 2017 11:41 PM (s5o+q)

I would never leave anyone at a hospital by themselves. I stayed with my husband when he was in and with my dad when he was in and had so many arguments with the nurses and doctors who wanted to follow the book instead of treating each patient individually. They can't get it through their heads that everyone is different and reacts differently to medications and post surgical situations. My husband was sure they put a large red D on his door for "Difficult".

Posted by: Abby at July 17, 2017 11:47 PM (HBU7W)

487 472. I have a Tribble closing on Friday

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 17, 2017 11:48 PM (PUmDY)

488


Maybe Congress will just go on recess until January 2019 2525.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2017 11:48 PM (IqV8l)

489 They make a cream for it too, but it's can't be used on the spine.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 17, 2017 11:45 PM (1JnAL)

I use Voltaren Cream. It helps.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:48 PM (Ri/rl)

490 I had some Chinese H2-B workers over to the house a couple of times (they worked at McDs with the daughter) and we had quite a few pleasant conversations -- and one bad one. The bad one was when I raised the question of Taiwan. There was a vehement response that Taiwan was Chinese territory and none of our business, end of story.

Yeah, about that...

I suspect the Tibet/Dali Lama thing is of the same strain, as well as discussions about Christ, Allah, or Communism.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 17, 2017 11:48 PM (6jaju)

491
Off Hyacinth sock.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 17, 2017 11:48 PM (8O3HH)

492 I'm sure what's in this Budweiser swill, but I shouldn't be surprised if it contains more than just water, barley, and hops...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 17, 2017 11:29 PM (e9G8E)

Those horses aren't kept just to pull the wagons, you know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 11:48 PM (XUcIQ)

493 Posted by: Robert should have joined a monestary at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM

Which is worse: her saying no or your regretting not asking?

Maybe decide with that in mind?

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 11:48 PM (q1+kD)

494 But now I'm really considering asking her out. Realistically, I would pull my head out of my ass upon the ralization of how terrible the odds are. Or Should I give it a try? How would I broach it without making an ass out of myself?


Worst thing that can happen is she files a sexual harassment complaint.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (IcT7t)

495 Sooooo, I've been really hesitant. I think me and this girl have at least a few things in common, and I'd really like to get to know her better. Thing is she's sixteen years younger than me (she's 21) and is drop dead gorgeous while I'm kind of this dopey pudgy older guy.

But now I'm really considering asking her out. Realistically, I would pull my head out of my ass upon the ralization of how terrible the odds are. Or Should I give it a try? How would I broach it without making an ass out of myself?

I should just drink more and consider getting another cat.

Posted by: Robert should have joined a monestary at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM (mknWS)


I think you had the swing set too close to the house when you were young. lol

You're 37 and she's 21? Dude...duuuude. That's not gonna end well. Trust me, don't go there. I watched friends do that. Yeah, ugly, real ugly.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (aMlLZ)

496 Now Congress can turn its attention to tax reform, addressing the $20 trillion debt bomb, and fixing Social Security and Medicare before they implode. [Loud laughter followed by applause.] Good night everybody! [Standing ovation.]

Posted by: Sem. B.F. Traitor, NW $10M at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (qYCgM)

497 Lawnmower Beers, FTW.

Here's the Gospel Truth.

Back in the '60s, Schlitz was one of the finest, most perfectly brewed, deep, rich and "non-light" beers, ever created. It really pretty much ruled the U.S. market, too.

Then the '70s, some deaths in the Schlitz family, cheapening of ingredients, shortcuts in the grain-bill and brewing recipe. It turned to Shitz, in the doing, and has never regained it's former glory.

Also from the '60s. Olympia Beer really was from the Land of Sky Blue Waters. Hamm's really was from Tumwater, WA. And they were all nearly as good as Schlitz.

All were very distinctly "Beer-y" beverages, and would hold their own against many of today's Craft Beers.

Then came consolidation. Olympia is brewed in San Antonio in the Lone Star Brewery. It's something resembling beer, but it is NOT "Olympia" beer. Haven't seen a Hamm's in decades.

FWIW. Budweiser and Busch are perfectly acceptable, everyday beers. And non-ironically, Pabst holds closer to the classic Oly & Hamm's than it has any right to do.

I love Craft Beers. I like some Snob Beers.

But Beer Snobs can kiss my Moronic Ass.

Ima drink what's good, what's cold, and what's in my fridge or what my neighbor offers, on a hot, sweltering, suffocating Galveston summer day.

Yeah, there are some bottom shelf beers that are too thin, even for me or Slap.

But for the most part, there's a huge percentage of "get over yourself" needed out there in Beerville.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (v5iqM)

498 Just texted that intro picture of the boat to my son. His caption was "Delivering a present to ISIS"

Awesome picture, great ONT.

Posted by: RM at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (eP+dt)

499 Drop the bomb. EXTERMINATE THEM ALL
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at July 17, 2017 11:43 PM (ETqL0)


Nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


I'm outta here.

"It's been a slice." - Michael Garabaldi, Station Security Officer, Babylon 5, after succumbing to his latent alcoholism and going on a drunken bender

Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (s5o+q)

500 So. Corey Lewandowski. Totally a Russian name, am I right?

Trump clearly colluded with a Russian agent, even putting said Russian in charge of his campaign. In charge of his campaign!

And what happened as a result? Lewandowski pulled an arm off of Michelle Fields and beat her to death with it. And the free press along with her!

Oh, sure; she got better. But, the damage was already done. That, like, hundred-year-old document known as The Constitution may never recover.

How will the government know what rights it's given us, and when to take them away? Serious you guys, if there is no free and unbiased press anymore, how can the government know the time has come to strip conservatives of their so-called "rights" under the First Amendment?

The time to take away the rights of conservatives to speak and write and associate and even think is now. I mean, look; they're even winning elections and stuff! How can our republic democracy endure?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (3YxFh)

501 Medicine is an Art pretending to be a Science.

Medical practices are generally derived from trial and error, not from any rigorous, statistically valid analysis. (Look up how many medical "studies" are not reproducible . . . )

What medicine does well, it does pretty well . . . what it doesn't do well, it does dreadfully poorly.
Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:41 PM (s5o+q)


This.

Exactly.

Most doctors don't know jack about the actual biochemical effects of drugs and frankly don't actually care.

It should also be noted that pre-med college students are also statistically the most likely to cheat on tests.

Posted by: The Scientific Hat at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (vBeA5)

502 so many things.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:47 PM (KP5rU)

So, what? Maybe one of those beer brewing Trappists monasteries? Or get a pig fluffy Turkish van that like to bathe?

Posted by: Robert is a tad annoyed at July 17, 2017 11:50 PM (mknWS)

503 444 432: because that is just what that nicklefucker is going to do. he's a gutless, spineless, crooked, pile of dogshit. the guy is a fucking embarrassment.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:36 PM

Thanks! I needed that laugh...but I think you are being too generous to McTurdle!

Posted by: Just wondering at July 17, 2017 11:50 PM (WBYpW)

504 berserker, tried that once, the fucking humanity. would have been better off with a street hemi.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:51 PM (KP5rU)

505 Thanks for the Voltaren recommendation. I will ask my doctor about it. I'm on a lot of cardiac meds so they get very nervous when I ask about a new drug.

Posted by: Abby at July 17, 2017 11:51 PM (HBU7W)

506 443 I hate Millennials but damn if I don't love how craft Beer has exploded.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:36 PM (dKiJG)


That was more GenX than the Millennials.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 17, 2017 11:51 PM (1JnAL)

507 ..."Yeah, there are some bottom shelf beers that are too thin, even for me or Slap.

But for the most part, there's a huge percentage of "get over yourself" needed out there in Beerville."
-Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
-Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (v5iqM)

Amen, Brother!!!

*Standing Ovation*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:51 PM (Ckg4U)

508 11
Stop with the narcan. Opioid crisis solved.

Posted by: NCKate


Yeah, but if they get presented at the hospital, they must be treated, by federal law, or lose their licenses. Doctors be slaves, yo!

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 17, 2017 11:52 PM (6jaju)

509 Robert, so she is a hot young young babe and you are an older schlub. Go for it, what do you have to lose besides your pride?

Posted by: cm9000 at July 17, 2017 11:53 PM (C06tc)

510 Fucking weevils.

Give them some Valu-Rite.

They can't handle their liquor.
Posted by: filbert at July 17, 2017 11:46 PM (s5o+q)


I am the liquor.

Posted by: Jim Lahey at July 17, 2017 11:53 PM (1JnAL)

511 Oh, no, maaaan!!! Now the fluffy pigs are eating the weevils!!!

Posted by: andycanuck after cracking some ribs at July 17, 2017 11:53 PM (nlbfN)

512 I know I should keep a positive attitude but just seems like Trump is just one man against a sea of bullshit. I know part of the left's game is to depress people like me and Ill be g-ddamned if they dont do a good job. I do not think I read a single positive thing today about the state of our country. Time to open the Good Book and find some comfort. Goodnight yall!

Posted by: Eli Cash at July 17, 2017 11:53 PM (67sg6)

513 G'Night, Eli.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 17, 2017 11:54 PM (Ckg4U)

514 I much prefer having to pay sales tax on what little taxable items I buy instate, than having to spend a single cent on state income taxes, or more than a pittance in property taxes.

Posted by: The Somewhat-Taxed Hat at July 17, 2017 11:39 PM (vBeA5)

Property taxes should be used only for capital expenses or services that preserve or enhance the value of the property being taxed. Police, fire department, roads, mostly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 11:54 PM (XUcIQ)

515 But now I'm really considering asking her out. Realistically, I would pull my head out of my ass upon the ralization of how terrible the odds are. Or Should I give it a try? How would I broach it without making an ass out of myself?

Dude, just buy two tickets to something cool (concert/ball game/whatever the hell you are both into) and tell her you've got an extra ticket to whatever, does she want to go.

If she doesn't take you up on it, the the balls in her court if she is interested in the future. Make sure to go to whatever event and take like 18 pictures of you and whatever other friend you take with your extra ticket and rave when you get back to the office about how bad-ass your event was, including a scroll trough your phone pictures.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 17, 2017 11:55 PM (H8DUW)

516 Goodnight Eli.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:55 PM (Ri/rl)

517 I'm not asking you to catch my lice. Just vote for me.
Posted by: Kid Rock at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM
---

Even is Kid Rock is as dumb as dirt and has the manners of a rabid racoon, does it matter IF he votes the right way?

We have lots of Country Club Republicans who see us as their plantation workers; they only require our money and vote. They do what they want, aka "reach across the aisle."

Exhibit A, B, C and D: Obamcare repeal. Promise for how many years?

Also... Kid Rock is not a career politician. I'll vote for him just because of that.

/and yes, he does need somene to wash his hair.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 11:56 PM (aT+Bx)

518 Heh - I'm watching the end of that Pink Panther movie right now, it's the 4th one in the series, "Revenge of the Pink Panther". Has some hilarious scenes, although I think the 3rd, "Return", is my personal favorite.

Funniest thing about "A Shot in the Dark", the second one - the original script was just for a typical Agatha Christie type murder mystery, and not a very good one. Blake Edwards read it and visualized what it would be like with Clouseau as the detective. Then he told Peter Sellers to BE Clouseau and just ad lib his way through it, and the result was comedy gold.

(at the nudist camp with Elke Sommers - one of the best scenes ever!)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2017 11:56 PM (V2Yro)

519
Olympia Beer really was from the Land of Sky Blue Waters. Hamm's really was from Tumwater, WA.

Wasn't it the other way around?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2017 11:56 PM (IqV8l)

520 berserker, tried that once, the fucking humanity. would have been better off with a street hemi.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 17, 2017 11:51 PM (KP5rU)


Right? I seen friends in their late 30's try to keep a chicks in their very early 20's. What a mess. Their fathers aren't much older. The list of problems is epic.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 11:56 PM (aMlLZ)

521 Dudes! Dudes! The weevils are after my flour sacks!!! Big, 8-inch weevils!!! None of them are lessors!!! And there are more than two!!!


Posted by: andycanuck after cracking some ribs at July 17, 2017 11:44 PM (nlbfN)



Baby Graboids.

Be very quiet, but do get all of your elephant guns loaded and ready.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 17, 2017 11:57 PM (v5iqM)

522 Well tonight at Wally World, a pyromaniac in the making decided to set some windproof matches afire in Sporting Goods. Four feet from the Coleman fuel and eight feet from the little camping propane cylinders.

All he managed to do was leave a scorch mark on the floor and a stink that lasted a few hours.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 17, 2017 11:57 PM (gKO1F)

523 It's lice vs weevils in the tiny octagon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 17, 2017 11:58 PM (IqV8l)

524 Goodnight everybody.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 17, 2017 11:58 PM (Ri/rl)

525 Also... Kid Rock is not a career politician. I'll vote for him just because of that.

Posted by: shibumi at July 17, 2017 11:56 PM

This.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 17, 2017 11:58 PM (q1+kD)

526 Most doctors don't know jack about the actual biochemical effects of drugs and frankly don't actually care.
Posted by: The Scientific Hat at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (vBeA5)


Me: breathing difficulties in some athletic situations.

Cardiac tests.

Cardiologist: Your heart is fine. It's fucking allergies, as you suspected. Your cholesterol is a slightly high, though. You should cut back on that in your diet.

Me: I thought 85% of cholesterol was endogenous, rather than dietary. Presumably an endogenous biosynthetic pathway is under feedback control, right? In which case, a decrease in dietary intake would result in an increase in biosynthesis, right?"

Cardiologist: " "

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 17, 2017 11:58 PM (SRKgf)

527 495 Sooooo, I've been really hesitant. I think me and this girl have at least a few things in common, and I'd really like to get to know her better. Thing is she's sixteen years younger than me (she's 21) and is drop dead gorgeous while I'm kind of this dopey pudgy older guy.

But now I'm really considering asking her out. Realistically, I would pull my head out of my ass upon the ralization of how terrible the odds are. Or Should I give it a try? How would I broach it without making an ass out of myself?

I should just drink more and consider getting another cat.

Posted by: Robert should have joined a monestary at July 17, 2017 11:42 PM (mknWS)


I think you had the swing set too close to the house when you were young. lol

You're 37 and she's 21? Dude...duuuude. That's not gonna end well. Trust me, don't go there. I watched friends do that. Yeah, ugly, real ugly.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (aMlLZ)



It's all nice when you are looking at them, but after a few dates, you will find out you don't have much in common.

Several years ago, a close friend was dating someone much younger. Whenever we all went out, the younger person had no idea what we were talking about and joking about because they were from an entirely different generation, and they just didn't have the same references as we did.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at July 17, 2017 11:59 PM (1JnAL)

528 @289 I had all four wisdom teeth extracted (individually) and I never took anything but aspirin or tylenol, which were more than effective enough. The dentist wanted to prescribe me something stronger but I told him not to bother.
----------------

Different people get different levels of pain from the same surgeries. I don't remember even taking an aspirin when I had my wisdom teeth out. And once I got home from the oral surgeon, I was up and about almost immediately. My sister, who had hers out at the same time, was bedridden for a few days (don't remember if she took anything for pain).

My dentist prescribed codeine when I had my root canal. But it was a bit of a hassle for me to get (the first pharmacy I visited claimed it didn't have any available), and I turned out to not need it anyway. I took one aspirin, and that was the end of it.

Posted by: junior at July 17, 2017 11:59 PM (Q6qiA)

529 "Right? I seen friends in their late 30's try to keep a chicks in their very early 20's. What a mess. Their fathers aren't much older. The list of problems is epic."

Hoo boy, been there, done that!!! But you just gotta be proactive about things, and keep moving forward in life.

Posted by: Henry VIII at July 17, 2017 11:59 PM (V2Yro)

530 seen friends in their late 30's try to keep a chicks in their very early 20's. What a mess. Their fathers aren't much older. The list of problems is epic.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division

isn't that how Dennis Wilson died? the little girl he was 'seeing' threw a photo of Wilson's lost-love overboard during a spat. Dennis jumped in to retrieve it and drowned?

Posted by: booknlass at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (6Xf+s)

531 "All he managed to do was leave a scorch mark on the floor and a stink that lasted a few hours."

Adult or child? Forgot teen? Teens are particularly stupid about stuff like that. Brains of mush and all

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (jm1YL)

532 499.

"It's been a slice."

That's also a line by Amy Madigan's character "McCoy" in "Streets of Fire."

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (d3wbb)

533 "Right? I seen friends in their late 30's try to keep a chicks in their very early 20's. What a mess. Their fathers aren't much older. The list of problems is epic."
-Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2017 11:56 PM (aMlLZ)

While I really couldn't ask out customers at the tanning salon, I did notice that the younger women who seemed attractive and mature just weren't.

The initial things we had in common were surface-level things that my little head was convincing my big head of.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (Ckg4U)

534 Well tonight at Wally World, a pyromaniac in the making


Future chemists of the world, unite!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (SRKgf)

535 Property taxes should be used only for capital expenses or services that preserve or enhance the value of the property being taxed. Police, fire department, roads, mostly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 11:54 PM (XUcIQ)


I'm very much against wealth taxes, in general. The family of four in the 14000 square foot house don't use the police or roads any more than than the family of four in the 2000 square foot house. And the idea that you improve your land and then have to pay more to the government for the privilege is just offensive.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (rZ+mb)

536 I hate Millennials but damn if I don't love how craft Beer has exploded.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 17, 2017 11:36 PM (dKiJG)

That was more GenX than the Millennials.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at July 17, 2017 11:51 PM (1JnAL)


After Prohibition ended, regulation/taxation of small batch wineries was all but reduced compared to craft breweries which faced much stricter regulations and much higher taxes.

Ironically enough, this changed under Carter (stopped clock and all that).

Things slowly built up and local breweries started to go regional and then national. Many were bought up by the larger breweries, but many more sprang up.

It's still not too complicated to brew one's own beer if they invest in a modicum of equipment and quality ingredients.

Posted by: The Fermenting Hat at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (vBeA5)

537 Medicine is an Art pretending to be a Science.

Medical practices are generally derived from trial and error, not from any rigorous, statistically valid analysis. (Look up how many medical "studies" are not reproducible . . . )

What medicine does well, it does pretty well . . . what it doesn't do well, it does dreadfully poorly.
Posted by: filbert


Eggs'll kill you. Trust us on this. So will salt. And if you want to be less fat, eat less fat, and more carbs. Sounds plausible, no?

Posted by: AMA at July 18, 2017 12:01 AM (/qEW2)

538 Male, teen. Supposedly belonging to the hominid family of Homo Sapiens.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 18, 2017 12:01 AM (gKO1F)

539 520; never, ever works. my sister married an old dude. she's no longer with us. the old hound moved on and found another one just as young. i don't get it. i learned quick. it goes nowhere for somebody.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 18, 2017 12:01 AM (KP5rU)

540 goodnight Caligirl!

I'm just about done too....

Posted by: booknlass at July 18, 2017 12:01 AM (6Xf+s)

541 Dennis the Menace married Mr Wilson? That's sick!

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at July 18, 2017 12:01 AM (nlbfN)

542 G'Night, Cali Girl.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 12:02 AM (Ckg4U)

543 You're 37 and she's 21? Dude...duuuude. That's not gonna end well. Trust me, don't go there. I watched friends do that. Yeah, ugly, real ugly.
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Female counterpoint:

Are you a really good looking 37? Do you have a high paying job? Do you drive a status car? Live in a very upscale neighborhood? Will going out with you make HER look better to her peer group?

I know this sounds pretty superficial, however, 21 girls can be that way. Plus.. it's still kind of young.

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:02 AM (aT+Bx)

544 Ok, so I'm really curious if anyone else feels this way...

After foreign policy and military stuff, one of the political topics that most interests me is the SJW outrage kind of shit. I mean, someone's butt hurt about some minor thing, I read those links! I read the comments to see them get made fun of everything.

But here's the catch- only if the SJWs are white.

The fact that the Dalai Lama is protested as a violent guy is outrageous. But the protests are from Chinese people? Nah. Sad to say, they just have those totalitarian instincts.

Same goes for Israel stuff. If I see an article titled "Professor attacks Israel in anti-Semitic rant", I click! However, as soon as I see that his name is Ahmed Hassan, I shuffle off. Arabs are anti-Semitic, duh.

Same with blacks and ludicrous statements about cops, or Hispanics and feelings towards decent immigration laws and enforcements. It's stupid and wrong, but of course they feel that way! Not interested.

But give me a Lindsay Carter who thinks a border wall is the American Holocaust, and cops are Waffen SS members, and Israel is the real apartheid state, and the Dalai Lama is worse than OBL, and now you have my attention. Because, what the fuck is it thinking?

Posted by: CPT11A at July 18, 2017 12:02 AM (hxUdS)

545 Jim,

After reading your take on beer, you might get a kick out of this book. A student of mine gave me a copy after hearing one of my rants about hipster-beer attitudes.

https://tinyurl.com/ybpmk88y

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 18, 2017 12:02 AM (H8DUW)

546 It's all nice when you are looking at them, but after a few dates, you will find out you don't have much in common.

Several years ago, a close friend was dating someone much younger. Whenever we all went out, the younger person had no idea what we were talking about and joking about because they were from an entirely different generation, and they just didn't have the same references as we did.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at July 17, 2017 11:59 PM (1JnAL)

Its beyond mars and venus, its a different galaxy. It ends up being a hump and dump, which can be cool. I don't judge. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:02 AM (aMlLZ)

547 Jay Guervara, actually there is another one that was hitting stores trying to set the pool chemicals afire...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 18, 2017 12:03 AM (gKO1F)

548

The hardest I've ever laughed is at Clouseau movies and "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Mad World".

I have literally rolled in the floor when I watched those for the first time years ago.

The one with Dyan Cannon, I think that the where he did the "officer of the lew" thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm2TAL53wVc

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 12:03 AM (8O3HH)

549 Robert, my dude, go for it. And be seen going for it by the ladies. Increases your likelihood of picking up others.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:03 AM (TwwWO)

550 "Male, teen. Supposedly belonging to the hominid family of Homo Sapiens."

Yup. Thought so. They act on instinct. Whatever makes their special selves happy with no thought of the consequences. Bless their little hearts.

Posted by: Tuna at July 18, 2017 12:04 AM (jm1YL)

551 I have glaucoma and my ophthalmologist said I would have to smoke 24 hours a day to get the same results I get with my eye meds.

Posted by: Abby at July 17, 2017 11:28 PM (HBU7W)


Everyone should have goals in life.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 12:04 AM (84p6I)

552 I'm with you, Shibumi! If Kid Rock were running for a Senate seat in Colorado, he would totally have my vote. Hell, I'd give him some money and some volunteerin' time!

I may or may not quibble with him on some policy detail or another, but the guy is a big-time patriot and supporter of our troops. He does not have a Masters' Degree in Grievance Studies. And he supports President Trump!

So, yeah... I absolutely want more people like him in the Senate.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 18, 2017 12:05 AM (3YxFh)

553 Not the "lew"! The lew!

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at July 18, 2017 12:05 AM (nlbfN)

554 I'll add- that effect is most exaggerated for the Chinese and Arab examples. Black anti-cop SJWism catches my eye about, and so does La Raza shit, but anti Israel Arabs doesn't even distract me momentarily.

Posted by: CPT11A at July 18, 2017 12:05 AM (hxUdS)

555 Budweiser in a longneck is pretty decent if it's fresh or whatever. I don't consider it a snob thing, but a lot of the US major breweries product will induce uncontrolled, explosive diahrea if drank in quantity. Any other product that did that, they'd force a recall.

Prohibition KILLED the beer industry in America, and it took 100 years to recover from it. Prior to that, there were local breweries in almost every city, and just as good as anything made today, with nary a hipster or fern in sight. Cheap too.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2017 12:05 AM (WOjjq)

556 I'm very much against wealth taxes, in general. The family of four in the 14000 square foot house don't use the police or roads any more than than the family of four in the 2000 square foot house. And the idea that you improve your land and then have to pay more to the government for the privilege is just offensive.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (rZ+mb)

Agree to some extent. I'm thinking more along a fee-for-service model. Your house owes the city X-dollars annually for fire protection, and Y for police protection, etc.

I can see an argument for school buildings being paid for property taxes (or bonds) because such buildings are a community asset. But teacher salaries should come from some other revenue stream.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:06 AM (XUcIQ)

557 Robert, my dude, go for it. And be seen going for it by the ladies. Increases your likelihood of picking up others.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:03 AM (TwwWO)


riiight...sure, let them see you, so they can all enjoy the "older dudes and moped" joke. lol

you are right though, fucked up how that works.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:06 AM (aMlLZ)

558 I'm with you, Shibumi! If Kid Rock were running for a Senate seat in Colorado, he would totally have my vote. Hell, I'd give him some money and some volunteerin' time!

I may or may not quibble with him on some policy detail or another, but the guy is a big-time patriot and supporter of our troops. He does not have a Masters' Degree in Grievance Studies. And he supports President Trump!

So, yeah... I absolutely want more people like him in the Senate.
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One of the local hosts on the salem radio station has already endorsed him. And I've already thought about possibly volunteering for him.

Plus... the Democrat woman is awful.

But aren't they always?

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:07 AM (aT+Bx)

559 557. Never had so many 'nieces' as when they caught on I was seeing my angel. True damned fact.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:08 AM (TwwWO)

560 "Right? I seen friends in their late 30's try to keep a chicks in their very early 20's. What a mess. Their fathers aren't much older. The list of problems is epic."


It can work. The crucial point: what do you have in common? You're both horny, you both like stamp collecting? Disaster.

You both share the same intrinsic values? Then maybe you've got something.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 18, 2017 12:09 AM (SRKgf)

561 @ Malcolm Tent.

Thanks. It's bookmarked for further review.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 12:09 AM (v5iqM)

562 President Trump wore his commemorative Stetson today. cattleman's style, beaver belly fur and mink.

he looked pretty good in it, too. American made.

Posted by: booknlass at July 18, 2017 12:09 AM (6Xf+s)

563 All he managed to do was leave a scorch mark on the floor and a stink that lasted a few hours.

I did that once. About 6 hours after some really good Mexican food.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:09 AM (IcT7t)

564 Zettai,

I am not sure but Bud may be a rice beer.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 18, 2017 12:09 AM (p7pfb)

565 Also... Kid Rock is not a career politician. I'll vote for him just because of that.

/and yes, he does need someone to wash his hair.

Posted by: shibumi


Exactly. I couldn't possibly be any *worse* than a generic politician. Think I'll adopt the Democrat's slogan, "Have you seen those other guys?"

And I'm thinking about doing the Maxine Waters approach to hair care: shave my head and wear a James Brown wig.

Posted by: Kid Rock at July 18, 2017 12:10 AM (/qEW2)

566 I managed to clear out my left ear, which has been totally clogged since Friday.

I'm sure nobody wants me to describe the ugly details, but the bottom line is I can hear again. Yay.

Posted by: rickl at July 18, 2017 12:10 AM (sdi6R)

567 The precursors of the Never-Trumpers were the "conservatives" opposed to Harriet Miers. We may notice that such infighting never seems to on the Left.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 18, 2017 12:10 AM (C06tc)

568 Hey, everyone.

If you praying types could mention my Mom, I'd appreciate it. She needs another stent put in, but her caridiologist has put it off until he's certain she's healthy enough. She sees him next week. I'm hoping she'll be well enough for the procedure. These days, she hardly has any energy at all.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:11 AM (rJUlF)

569 I did that once. About 6 hours after some really good Mexican food.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:09 AM (IcT7t)

"Wind"proof matches, FTW!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:11 AM (XUcIQ)

570 Robert, my dude, go for it. And be seen going for it by the ladies. Increases your likelihood of picking up others.


Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:03 AM (TwwWO)




riiight...sure, let them see you, so they can all enjoy the "older dudes and moped" joke. lol


you are right though, fucked up how that works.
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I can expalin that.

If Robert asks out the younger girl, whatever she says, he gets more cred with all the single lades.

Why? He has the CONFIDENCE to ask her out. So that makes him a desirible alpha male. Espeically if she says no and he just shrugs and moves on.

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:11 AM (aT+Bx)

571 I think they're after the Dalai Lama because he once said some unsupportive things about homosexuality... Something, something, "other hole", something something "unclean", something something!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 18, 2017 12:11 AM (e9G8E)

572 Okay, folks. I'm out for the night.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 12:12 AM (Ckg4U)

573 If you praying types could mention my Mom, I'd appreciate it. She needs another stent put in, but her caridiologist has put it off until he's certain she's healthy enough. She sees him next week. I'm hoping she'll be well enough for the procedure. These days, she hardly has any energy at all. Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:11 AM
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How are you handling things Captain Whitebread? You've had a stressful time lately. Are YOU OK?

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:12 AM (aT+Bx)

574 President Trump wore his commemorative Stetson today. cattleman's style, beaver belly fur and mink.

he looked pretty good in it, too. American made.

Posted by: booknlass at July 18, 2017 12:09 AM (6Xf+s)

That was on the TV here. Behind him were some electric guitars. Please tell me they were Gibson.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:13 AM (XUcIQ)

575 nite slap.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 18, 2017 12:13 AM (KP5rU)

576 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:11 AM

Prayers up, CW.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 18, 2017 12:13 AM (q1+kD)

577 Captain Whitebread,

Consider it done.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 18, 2017 12:13 AM (p7pfb)

578 I just read that President Trump recertified the Iran nuclear deal. Why? Wasn't he against it during the campaign? Wasn't he going to tear it up? I don't understand politics and I am done with it.

Posted by: Abby at July 18, 2017 12:13 AM (HBU7W)

579 570. My Kekistani sister!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:14 AM (TwwWO)

580 571 I think they're after the Dalai Lama because he once said some unsupportive things about homosexuality... Something, something, "other hole", something something "unclean", something something!

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The Buddha endorsed just one hole.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 18, 2017 12:14 AM (PXj2C)

581 That was on the TV here. Behind him were some electric guitars. Please tell me they were Gibson.

If it was the event where they featured a product from each of the 50 states, they were Gibson.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:14 AM (IcT7t)

582 So today I finally received my check from the Nvidia GTX 970 class action settlement. $60 check for video cards I am happy with and still using. Not bad. Of course I filed my claim back in October and there was no way to check the status of my claims, so I kind of figured it was a bust, so nice surprise today.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:14 AM (cAnNx)

583 I can expalin that.

If Robert asks out the younger girl, whatever she says, he gets more cred with all the single lades.

Why? He has the CONFIDENCE to ask her out. So that makes him a desirible alpha male. Espeically if she says no and he just shrugs and moves on.



Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:11 AM (aT+Bx)


I totally understand it. I still think its fucked up how it works though.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:15 AM (aMlLZ)

584 I noticed Trump was monitoring the Koreans this weekend.

Oddly, it was South Koreans though.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 18, 2017 12:15 AM (H8DUW)

585 Prayers sent for Mom CW.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 18, 2017 12:16 AM (C06tc)

586 Viridian, if you are still here, my e-mail to you was bounced.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:16 AM (XUcIQ)

587 That was on the TV here. Behind him were some electric guitars. Please tell me they were Gibson.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:13 AM (XUcIQ)



If it was the event where they featured a product from each of the 50 states, they were Gibson.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:14 AM (IcT7t)


YES they were. I could smell them. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:16 AM (aMlLZ)

588 McAuliffe, Green Tech, and MS -- Oh yes, I remember that scam. Here's how it worked, for a short few years.

They were taking regular old electric golf carts, slapping on a few things like headlights and turn signals, and selling them as 'street legal'; of course, they now qualified for that "up to $7500 in federal tax rebates" for buying an 'electric passenger vehicle'.

Range? About 10 miles, iirc. They sold quite a few of 'em, too, rat cheer in MS.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2017 12:16 AM (6jaju)

589 I got my hearing back this weekend after 3 weeks of pressure and about 25% hearing. About a half dozen people have had this so far this summer. Weird.

Posted by: RM at July 18, 2017 12:17 AM (eP+dt)

590
I recently had teeth pulled and implants put in. Doc gave me vicodin, which works great. I took it for the pain and did not really get high. Next time I'm going to try really strong marijauna, see how it compares. Problem is, I get addicted to that. Also pot is a lot more expensive. Pros and cons, pros and cons.....

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:17 AM (KG0mU)

591 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at July 17, 2017 11:59 PM (1JnAL)

Its beyond mars and venus, its a different galaxy. It ends up being a hump and dump, which can be cool. I don't judge. lol
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:02 AM (aMlLZ)



With everything I said, if I was in your shoes I would knock the bottom out of it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at July 18, 2017 12:17 AM (1JnAL)

592 YES they were. I could smell them. lol


Was it the rosewood that gave it away?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:17 AM (IcT7t)

593 Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:14 AM (cAnNx)

You got $60. The lawyer who filed the class action suit got a new house.

Posted by: mark1971 at July 18, 2017 12:18 AM (xPl2J)

594 570. Follow-up.

Robert, don't ask her to go. Tell her you're going and she can come along. Don't say 'if you'd like' or etc. Just 'and you can come along/with.' You're doing HER a favor, my dude - act accordingly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:18 AM (TwwWO)

595 Publius, pretty sure it was it was the Does your dog bite one as well

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 12:18 AM (PUmDY)

596 The one with Dyan Cannon, I think that the where he did the "officer of the lew" thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm2TAL53wVc

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear


Those were fun, but nothing beats Sellers in the original SMOD movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEB-OoUrNuk

He's one of the great technicians of all time when it comes to acting.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 12:19 AM (/qEW2)

597 So. Corey Lewandowski. Totally a Russian name, am I right?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 17, 2017 11:49 PM (3YxFh)


Robert Lewandowski is a Polish striker playing in the Bundesliga for Bayern Munich. Just' sayin'.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 12:19 AM (84p6I)

598 Sen Mconnell must read AOS? Tweeter sez he wants a vote to repeal, and replace in a couple years?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2017 12:19 AM (WOjjq)

599 597. Red army rolled thru both places. Them rooshians - they plan long-term.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:20 AM (TwwWO)

600 My Kekistani sister!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:14 A



RE: women seeing confident men as more desirable, perhaps I can explain it a bit better.

Even if a woman does not verbalize it or acknowledge it, we are physically weaker. Every woman on the plant is suseptible to things like rape and assault. So, I think on a visceral level, a woman wants a man who can protect her. It's not that man who is less assertive does not care, or is not a good person or cannot protect her. It's just that the assertive, confident guy projects it VERY loudly.

"I'll stop the bad guy from harming you immediately." A guy who is not as assertive does not necessarily project that as strongly, which is an instinctual problem for women.

I also suspect that his confidence might actually impact the bad guys as well, and keep them away.

/my theory at least.

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:20 AM (aT+Bx)

601 Bonjour, ou sont les femmes blanches?

Posted by: Constable Bart at July 18, 2017 12:21 AM (PXj2C)

602 berserker, saw a dodge hellcat today. not impressed. give me a 70 charger anyday over that abortion.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 18, 2017 12:21 AM (KP5rU)

603 You got $60. The lawyer who filed the class action suit got a new house.
Posted by: mark1971 at July 18, 2017 12:18 AM (xPl2J)


In the Cayman Islands.

And in the Hamptons.

And a condo in Vail.

And a penthouse apartment in NYC.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac and Irredeemable at July 18, 2017 12:21 AM (1JnAL)

604

Some of my favorite Clouseau scenes were where his houseboy, Cato, would attack him. Cato was under orders to sneak attack him, when he least suspected it, to keep him on his toes.

Here's one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omek-g6_LAQ

That will lead to a bunch of other When Cato Attacks clips. In the above, former Chief Dryfus, who went crazy because of Clouseau, was in the apartment below, trying to bore a hole in the floor to spy on Clouseau.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 12:21 AM (8O3HH)

605 Robert, don't ask her to go. Tell her you're going and she can come
along. Don't say 'if you'd like' or etc. Just 'and you can come
along/with.' You're doing HER a favor, my dude - act accordingly.
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Good advice IMHO.

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:21 AM (aT+Bx)

606 Bonjour, ou sont les femmes blanches?

Pursuing Alpha males, apparently.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:22 AM (IcT7t)

607 593 Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:14 AM (cAnNx)

You got $60. The lawyer who filed the class action suit got a new house.


Posted by: mark1971 at July 18, 2017 12:18 AM (xPl2J)



Yeah. I don't really care though. I didn't file the suit. And I was happy with my cards. And now I'm happy with my cards with an extra $60

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:22 AM (cAnNx)

608 RE: women seeing confident men as more desirable, perhaps I can explain it a bit better.

Even if a woman does not verbalize it or acknowledge it, we are physically weaker. Every woman on the plant is suseptible to things like rape and assault. So, I think on a visceral level, a woman wants a man who can protect her. It's not that man who is less assertive does not care, or is not a good person or cannot protect her. It's just that the assertive, confident guy projects it VERY loudly.

"I'll stop the bad guy from harming you immediately." A guy who is not as assertive does not necessarily project that as strongly, which is an instinctual problem for women.

I also suspect that his confidence might actually impact the bad guys as well, and keep them away.

/my theory at least.
Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:20 AM (aT+Bx)

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This^^^

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:22 AM (s5Kql)

609 i left but came back to ask--

if you had just a minute to breathe

and they granted you one final wish,

would you ask for something like another chance?

nite.

Posted by: booknlass at July 18, 2017 12:22 AM (6Xf+s)

610 Robert, don't ask her to go. Tell her you're going and she can come
along. Don't say 'if you'd like' or etc. Just 'and you can come
along/with.' You're doing HER a favor, my dude - act accordingly.
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Good advice IMHO.


Yep, and since you're not asking her on a "date" it prevents a lot of perception issues.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:23 AM (IcT7t)

611 YES they were. I could smell them. lol


Was it the rosewood that gave it away?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:17 AM (IcT7t)


The finish, the lacquer basically. It has a distinct smell. They still use the old world type nitro lacquer.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:24 AM (aMlLZ)

612 https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2017
/07/17/made-america

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 18, 2017 12:24 AM (rnAwa)

613 /my theory at least.


Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:20 AM (aT+Bx)



'Ette is superior than the non-'ette, always.

Q.E.D.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 12:24 AM (v5iqM)

614 Johnny Horton said it best

"Won'tcha pretty baby, kinda let me hang around?
Ya know I'll always love ya and I'll never let ya down."

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2017 12:25 AM (WOjjq)

615 Another thing I'd like to point out as far as Robert and the younger girl are concerned...

Younger girls are easier to impress.

I've been working at the same place for 16 years, and I'm pulling down about $44k a year. A girl half my age would be pretty impressed with that! A girl closer to my age would not think so highly of it.

It's much easier to build a relationship with a girl who's, you know, impressed by what you have going for you.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 18, 2017 12:25 AM (3YxFh)

616 Shinumi,

38 Special +P hollow points will also protect you. Civilian self defense with a firearm tends to be a close encounter experience.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 18, 2017 12:26 AM (p7pfb)

617 405 just wondering

So far, the Avastin seems to be working. She was on Tremador early on, I think that helped, too.

The challenge is that Avastin typically/eventually stops working.

So every is a gift.

Posted by: ibguy at July 18, 2017 12:26 AM (vUcdz)

618 I managed to clear out my left ear, which has been totally clogged since Friday.

I'm sure nobody wants me to describe the ugly details, but the bottom line is I can hear again. Yay.

Posted by: rickl


Don't describe it. Just spread some on this Ritz cracker. I'm feeling peckish.

Posted by: Joe Garcia (D) Fl at July 18, 2017 12:26 AM (/qEW2)

619 611. I was in the antique/repair business for a while.

That sweet, slightly fruity scent on nc lacquer...

Also, best finish for most purposes. NC over orange shellac over linseed oil - FTMFW

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:26 AM (TwwWO)

620 Unless shibumi & SMFH carry bigger CCW pieces than their "man"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 12:28 AM (ZTRlp)

621
612 BourbonChicken
I see that the assless chaps are coming from South Dakota

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:28 AM (KG0mU)

622 Here's a story on how alpha males can make your life better:

Once upon a time when I was a young girl, we had to take my Mom the hospital. She was in a lot of pain and my Dad, a former marine, wanted her to be seen immediately in the emergency room.

Dad was 6', 160 or so-- not necessarily as physically imposing as others. However, he basically bulllied them into taking care of her asap, just to shut him up.

That's a useful skill. And yes, I do want a man who will fight to get my medical issue solved asap when I'm incapacitated. It doesn't mean that those who don't do that are bad people; it's just that I know I need something that assertive behind me. Because I will do-- and have done-- the same thing when necessary.



Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:29 AM (aT+Bx)

623 Unca Palp.

I can find the orange shellac and linseed oil. (though I've used tung oil to similar effect.)

Finding the NC anywhere local, has been brain bending.

Pointers, please?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 12:29 AM (v5iqM)

624 SMFH? Pfft! That lady used to drive her gun.

So, yeah - she's armed.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:29 AM (TwwWO)

625 I'm adding your Mom to my list Captain. You too. Hang in there.

Posted by: Just wondering at July 18, 2017 12:29 AM (WBYpW)

626 shibumi,

The honest truth is, not really. Depression sucks. I can't even point to a trigger for this recurrence. Then adding all the other events -- getting friendzoned, Mom's poor health, half the staff at work hating my guts -- my confidence in my ability to do anything worthwhile is at a very low ebb.

I took a week off from work, but I can't afford to take even a day trip. Since I'm committed to be sound tech on the community theatre's next play, it doesn't matter anyway. I have rehearsals every night for the next 10 days before opening night. Can't even take CW Jr out for his 21st birthday this weekend.

I should be happy to just be alive, breathing, and able to type. But...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (rJUlF)

627 I'm usually lurking but the pic of that RHIB at the top brought back a memory that just begs to be shared with an audience as appreciative as the Horde.

In 2014 my father was diagnosed with a brain tumor similar to what Ted Kennedy had which pissed him off to no end. The initial prognosis was good but the chemo and radiation was too much for his 73 year old body and he wound up passing away in May of that year.

He had spent 31 years in the Navy and wanted his ashes scattered at sea. When we had overcome our grief enough to look into it we discovered that the family would not be allowed to go out for any sort of personal ceremony which was unacceptable to my sister.

She worked as an engineer for the military and pulled every string she could to come up with a way to be involved.

It just so happened that roughly around that time a yearly convention in Tampa for SOCOM was going on. Among the hardware on display were two RHIBs that were run along the riverfront for a demonstration.

After the Seal operators had finished up they met my sister, her future husband who was a Navy pilot and myself and we proceeded to commandeer the boats for a run through Tampa Bay at full speed to get 3 miles offshore before we could say a few words and spread the ashes.

I will never forget the feeling of the salt spray in my face, the incessant pounding of the waves while standing wedged against a barely padded railing and looking out at all the shocked boaters wondering what security crisis was going on that afternoon that warranted such a show of force.

It was an awesome gesture and the respectfulness and somberness of the heroes on those boats that day who went out of their way to accommodate the last wishes of a fallen veteran will never be forgotten.

QGM

Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (9kVF0)

628 Golf carts would be suitable transportation for a lot of people. They don't drive very far, and don't need (or want) a RAM 9000 CrewCab to pick up a loaf of bread.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (WOjjq)

629 Unless shibumi & SMFH carry bigger CCW pieces than their "man"

Not sure if you can call the M249 SAW a CCW weapon, but I know SMFH is partial towards that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (IcT7t)

630 623. Takes a specialist spray rig for most purposes.
You can thin the bejeesus outta it and apply it with a french polish pad, however. More work, but lovely.
What's the piece?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:31 AM (TwwWO)

631 I've been working at the same place for 16 years, and I'm pulling down about $44k a year. A girl half my age would be pretty impressed with that! A girl closer to my age would not think so highly of it.


I'm barely pulling down $30k. Ain't no one impressed with that.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:31 AM (rJUlF)

632
Before the advent of the stalker, women liked to be pursued. Now I don't know how one would handle that.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:31 AM (KG0mU)

633 Heh.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:31 AM (s5Kql)

634 Chief Inspector Dreyfus was a brilliant actor.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 12:31 AM (PUmDY)

635 I can find the orange shellac and linseed oil. (though I've used tung oil to similar effect.)

Finding the NC anywhere local, has been brain bending.

Pointers, please?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 12:29 AM (v5iqM)


What are you trying to do?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:32 AM (aMlLZ)

636
629 Unless shibumi & SMFH carry bigger CCW pieces than their "man"

Not sure if you can call the M249 SAW a CCW weapon, but I know SMFH is partial towards that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (IcT7t)



Think they make a bra holster for that?

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:32 AM (cAnNx)

637 Be careful with linseed oil. Great stuff, but it is a known fire hazard. Rags will spontaneously combust. It's happened numerous times. In fact I'm a little surprised it hasn't been banned.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2017 12:33 AM (WOjjq)

638 nite all. be well.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at July 18, 2017 12:33 AM (KP5rU)

639 Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (9kVF0)

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That was beautiful.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:33 AM (s5Kql)

640 Niters chavez.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:34 AM (s5Kql)

641 Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (9kVF0)

First of all, I'm sorry to hear of your fathers passing

Secondly, awesome persistence to implement those last wishes

Thanks for sharing

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 12:34 AM (ZTRlp)

642
Billie Holiday was 43 when she died?
In that video, she looks like she's in her 60s!

Posted by: ArthurK at July 18, 2017 12:34 AM (AVMrq)

643 Think they make a bra holster for that?


If they do, a lady would have to wear a really loose shirt.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 12:35 AM (IcT7t)

644 Red army rolled thru both places. Them rooshians - they plan long-term.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:20 AM (TwwWO)


When your choice as a Red soldier was to 'roll through' or get shot by someone standing behind you, you roll through.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 12:35 AM (84p6I)

645 Tonight I reported a dating profile on EHarmony as likely fraudulent. I used Google's reverse image search to find profile pic on a social media account with a differeant name in a foreign language. I became suspicious when I spotted in one of her pics in the background a trapper-keeper with a picture of a Turkish soldier on it.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2017 12:36 AM (ndZS2)

646 Posted by: tcn in AK at July 17, 2017 10:07 PM (NXsWM)
Thanks for the advice. I thought I would give it a try. Vicodin doesn't do much for me anymore.
I want to find something as I'm not looking forward to knee replacement 2.5 in 4 years.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 17, 2017 10:10

MisHum my regular doc has me on tramadol and meloxicam (anti-inflammatory) for stenosis and herniated disc pain. My pain doc has added parafon fort and gabapentin which I think are nerve blocking pain agents.

I don't like taking all this crap and need to see about surgery, but that's not real appealing either.

Posted by: Farmer at July 18, 2017 12:36 AM (yJ1e6)

647 The ONLY thing the republican party will ever repeal is Trump!

Posted by: Tentotwo at July 18, 2017 12:37 AM (yhf6w)

648 Its a cool night here and we are sleeping on the front porch under a light blanket. Time for bed. Goodnight all.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 18, 2017 12:37 AM (p7pfb)

649
Waiting for Daylight.
How did it get so dark so soon?

Posted by: Cavan Montgomery Jr at July 18, 2017 12:38 AM (m9X4Y)

650 645. Dude! Why ya gotta block a Romanian from earning an honest living like that?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:38 AM (TwwWO)

651 Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (9kVF0)

Wow. What a story.
My condolences on your father's passing.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:38 AM (rJUlF)

652 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omek-g6_LAQ

That will lead to a bunch of other When Cato Attacks clips. In the above, former Chief Dryfus, who went crazy because of Clouseau, was in the apartment below, trying to bore a hole in the floor to spy on Clouseau.

Posted by: publius


I remember those Cato attacks! I think I was too young when I saw it- I just sat there mesmerized. Yes, that was funny.

Posted by: Joe Garcia (D) Fl at July 18, 2017 12:38 AM (/qEW2)

653 Captain Whitebread, I think a girl of 21-23 years old would be impressed by your $30k a year income. Half the guys their age are in college, and thus pulling in $0 per year, while the rest are making minimum wage or not much more.

There's potential for the college boys to make more later, but making more now is actually a pretty big plus.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 18, 2017 12:38 AM (3YxFh)

654 Off earwig sock.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 12:38 AM (/qEW2)

655 Posted by: Serious Cat at July 18, 2017 12:36 AM (ndZS2)

People lie on those things?

I'm so blessed to be with the same woman for 35 years. I really don't envy those in the dating world.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 12:39 AM (ZTRlp)

656
There are plenty of gals that would just like a guy with a steady job. They're not all gold diggers, just looking for a solid guy. Responsibility is an attractive trait.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:39 AM (KG0mU)

657 Unless shibumi SMFH carry bigger CCW pieces than their "man"
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LOL.

I don't conceal carry yet. In the past, it was really hard to get approved by the county gun board; they've made it easier now, but there are lengthy training requirements. But I might do it some day. I have nothing impressive, just Taurus 1911 9mm.

Dad was a Marine. Went hunting when I was very young. Have always had guns in the house. I will protect myself.

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:39 AM (aT+Bx)

658 Golf carts would be suitable transportation for a lot of people. They don't drive very far, and don't need (or want) a RAM 9000 CrewCab to pick up a loaf of bread.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (WOjjq)

You see lots of people tootling around Apache Junction in golf carts. Or side-by-side quads.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:39 AM (XUcIQ)

659 Chief Inspector Dreyfus was a brilliant actor.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 12:31 AM (PUmDY)

That was Herbert Lom, wasn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:40 AM (XUcIQ)

660 The precursors of the Never-Trumpers were the "conservatives" opposed to Harriet Miers. We may notice that such infighting never seems to on the Left.

Posted by: cm9000 at July 18, 2017 12:10 AM (C06tc)


Wait LOL Wut?

It was actual conservatives who were stunned by Miers being picked. That sent off warning signs that Bush cared less about conservatism that about personal loyalty.

Some might cite Katrina as the point where the GOP was to wain to the point of the country voting for Obama, but it was Miers that severed actual conservatives from any feeling of duty to the Bush administration.

Posted by: The Judicial Hat at July 18, 2017 12:40 AM (vBeA5)

661 642
Billie Holiday was 43 when she died?
In that video, she looks like she's in her 60s!
Posted by: ArthurK at July 18, 2017 12:34 AM (AVMrq)


Alcohol and drugs took their toll, as was the case with many other great musicians through the years.

Posted by: rickl at July 18, 2017 12:41 AM (sdi6R)

662
Here's Clouseau pulls the wrong tooth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqYHb41OlSE

I remember watching that for the first time. Hell, I was probably 12, 13 or something. It was on TV. I did indeed fall in the floor, and laughed so hard I nearly pissed myself.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 12:41 AM (8O3HH)

663 QGM

Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:30 AM (9kVF0)




Something similar in my future. My Dad passed in Jan, 2010. Step mom is somehow hanging on, age 89, more maladies than I'll dare list for now.

When she goes, same ashes as him.

He wants to be taken care of at sea, from a surfaced Sub, anywhere in the Pacific.

There are VA processes to accommodate this. But his passing, far preceding hers, busts all kinds of calendar restrictions.

They want their ashes mingled when they go.

I'll wage a guerrilla campaign out in my old stomping grounds 'round Point Loma, CA.

Won't be any pics or video to mark the ceremony.

Just the word of the 'boat's C.O. that it will be taken care of, and later, that it was.

That'll be Honors enough, though.

That, and the Skipper's handshake.

Dad retired as a Career Submariner, a Bubblehead and a Senior Chief, withal.

Other details, as befits a member of the Silent Service, are Classified.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 12:41 AM (v5iqM)

664 Okay, which one of you Morons did this?


https://tinyurl.com/wolf-creek-beer


Trucker burns out his brakes, has to hit the runaway truck ramp. Video not particularly thrilling, but hey, beer spill.

I drive this road several times a year. Just beyond the second runaway truck ramp (maybe 1/4 mile) is a sharp hairpin turn overlooking about a 600' cliff. He would have been in serious trouble if he'd hit that at 65 mph.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 12:41 AM (wPiJc)

665 Heh

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:42 AM (s5Kql)

666 Now?

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:42 AM (s5Kql)

667 Yes!

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:42 AM (s5Kql)

668 Yes, great story about burial at sea.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 18, 2017 12:43 AM (WOjjq)

669 Good night, everyone! It was nice to see you all here.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 18, 2017 12:43 AM (3YxFh)

670 Be careful with linseed oil. Great stuff, but it is a known fire hazard. Rags will spontaneously combust. It's happened numerous times. In fact I'm a little surprised it hasn't been banned.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Store any rags in a closed metal container. It doesn't hurt to wet them also. It's the oxidation of linseed that generates the heat -> combustion.

I've used linseed oil for decades, for gunstocks, and prefer it to modern polymerizing finishes. Properly applied and rubbed, it makes for a very hard finish, that is easy to repair if necessary.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 12:43 AM (OdK9v)

671 >>>don't like taking all this crap and need to see about surgery, but that's not real appealing either.

Farmer my back surgery a year ago was a breeze
I thought I would have had issues with that and not the knee
Boy was I surprised

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 12:43 AM (ZTRlp)

672 665 - 667.

**slow drag on his cig**

It was good for me, too.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:43 AM (TwwWO)

673 656
There are plenty of gals that would just like a guy with a steady job. They're not all gold diggers, just looking for a solid guy. Responsibility is an attractive trait.
Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:39 AM (KG0mU)

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I hope so. I don't have a lot of material things to offer. But I work for what I do have.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:44 AM (rJUlF)

674
395 So do the states that have "legalized" weed, do they allow the citizenry to grow it at home should they wish? I'm going to go out on a limb and say "no"??

I was always a little taken aback by the folks who would reflexively say "The government should legalize it and tax the shit out of it!"

When I offered that maybe they could just leave people the fuck alone and quit stealing people's money, they couldn't process that.I don't smoke the shit, but if I did growing it st home would make sense. It's a weed, can't be too tough.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 17, 2017 11:24 PM (WOjjq)

Washington State allows self grown medical MJ up to 24 oz in possession or 15 plants. No rec growing unless you follow commercial grow regs (look in dictionary under onerous). But since you can get a prescription for any ailment from the pay for Rx docs it's not a barrier for rec use.
For the record, never smoked. But as a concert attendee, an inevitable inhaler.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 18, 2017 12:44 AM (e1mEI)

675 Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 12:41 AM (wPiJc)

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Wasn't me, Haven't had a CDL since 2014.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:44 AM (s5Kql)

676 I might be mistaken, but there are probably more than a few twenty-something ladies that are looking for a guy that doesn't sit around playing video games all weekend eating $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

I've gotta think some of 'em are sick of all the Peter Pan, I don't wanna grow up types.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 18, 2017 12:45 AM (H8DUW)

677
SMFH you got the wicked post for tonight.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:45 AM (KG0mU)

678 QGM, what a wonderful tribute. Thanks for sharing.

Ibguy, you are so right that every day is a gift...but it's easy to forget that...and to fret that there just aren't enough days for those we love.

Good night all. Blessings and peace to you.

Posted by: Just wondering at July 18, 2017 12:46 AM (WBYpW)

679 672 665 - 667.

**slow drag on his cig**

It was good for me, too.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:43 AM (TwwWO)

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Such an imagination.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:46 AM (s5Kql)

680 666 Now?

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:42 AM (s5Kql)


This is a sign that you should come to the Moron Meet-up in Vegas...

Posted by: The Vegas Hat, baby! at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (vBeA5)

681 676 I might be mistaken, but there are probably more than a few twenty-something ladies that are looking for a guy that doesn't sit around playing video games all weekend eating $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

I've gotta think some of 'em are sick of all the Peter Pan, I don't wanna grow up types.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 18, 2017 12:45 AM (H8DUW)

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My neighbor, who works and is in her mid-20s, just kicked her non-working, videogame-playing, cheating bf out a few days ago.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (s5Kql)

682 535 Property taxes should be used only for capital expenses or services that preserve or enhance the value of the property being taxed. Police, fire department, roads, mostly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2017 11:54 PM (XUcIQ)

I'm very much against wealth taxes, in general. The family of four in the 14000 square foot house don't use the police or roads any more than than the family of four in the 2000 square foot house. And the idea that you improve your land and then have to pay more to the government for the privilege is just offensive.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 12:00 AM (rZ+mb)

++++

People who have more have more to protect. Nobody kidnaps the child of a poor man. Burglars are more likely to target a mansion than a slum. And even if a slum gets hit, police are very unlikely to assign much manpower in order to recover the 10 year old tv that got stolen.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (FUu/Z)

683 Store any rags in a closed metal container. It doesn't hurt to wet them also. It's the oxidation of linseed that generates the heat -> combustion.

I've used linseed oil for decades, for gunstocks, and prefer it to modern polymerizing finishes. Properly applied and rubbed, it makes for a very hard finish, that is easy to repair if necessary.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 12:43 AM (OdK9v)

Is it the raw or the boiled linseed oil that is prone to spontaneous combustion? Or both? I understand that it is the oxidation of the oil that hardens it and makes it into a suitable finish.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (XUcIQ)

684 I make sure that my trapper-keeper is prominent in my E Harmony pics.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (rnAwa)

685 >>>Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:39 AM (aT+Bx)

A Taurus 1911 in the hands of a well trained woman is quite the dame not to fvck with

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (ZTRlp)

686 676 I might be mistaken, but there are probably more than a few twenty-something ladies that are looking for a guy that doesn't sit around playing video games all weekend eating $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

I've gotta think some of 'em are sick of all the Peter Pan, I don't wanna grow up types.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 18, 2017 12:45 AM (H8DUW)



That's kind of insulting. I do that sometimes. Little Ceasar's isn't bad for $5. Of course where I am sitting around on the weekend is in my own house because I'm burned out from working all week.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (cAnNx)

687 641> Thanks MisHum. Cancer sucks but so does everything else. It is too bad as I think he would have really liked this place and would have had tons of great stories to share.

My favorite was when he became an officer he had a tour on the Nimitz in the Mediterranean in the 70s. They were having a huge problem with sailors bringing drugs back on board while they were docked in Naples so he found this stray dog outside a restaurant and told the petty officer manning the deck to stand at the top of the gangway with it on a leash. Word quickly spread of this drug sniffing dog and all night as crew were returning you just heard splashes in the water as they were ditching all their contraband.

Nowadays I'm sure they'd commission a blue ribbon panel to analyze the problem and spend millions of dollars on something that wouldn't be 1% as effective.

QGM

Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (9kVF0)

688 I hear the oh-so-pathetic mewling at the door, and, like the idiot that I am, I go let the goddamned worthless cat back in and miss the Post of the Beast! Serves me right...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (e9G8E)

689
The problem with growing at home is the theivery. You would pretty much have to grow inside with expensive lights. Seems a shame here in sunny southern cal.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:49 AM (KG0mU)

690 Oh, and now I hear Her Preciousness regurgitating something somewhere in the dark...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 18, 2017 12:50 AM (e9G8E)

691 Okay, which one of you Morons did this?
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I don't remember that Wolf Creek Pass had an escape ramp. Wish I could see the video. Too many scripts on that page.

Posted by: Cavan Montgomery Jr at July 18, 2017 12:50 AM (m9X4Y)

692 LOL QGM.

Or Death by Powerpoint.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:50 AM (s5Kql)

693
For any who don't know the plot, Clouseau drove Chief Inspector Dreyfus batshit insane, and he became a James Bond villain who threatened to destroy the world unless Clouseau was killed.

He knew that Clouseau was such a bumbling idiot that it was impossible for normal killers to kill him, so he demanded that the nations of the world send their top assassins to try to kill Clouseau.

And that led to a sequence where a bunch of assassins did indeed try and ended killing themselves and each other. Clouseau would trip or do something stupid at just the right moment, and it would cause the weapon or trap to backfire on the assassin.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 12:50 AM (8O3HH)

694 >>>Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 12:39 AM (aT+Bx)
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A Taurus 1911 in the hands of a well trained woman is quite the dame not to fvck with

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (ZTRlp)


Or 'quite the dame' to fuck with only once.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 12:51 AM (84p6I)

695 People who have more have more to protect. Nobody kidnaps the child of a poor man. Burglars are more likely to target a mansion than a slum. And even if a slum gets hit, police are very unlikely to assign much manpower in order to recover the 10 year old tv that got stolen.



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (FUu/Z)



A mansion is more likely to have a security system. They'll ransack a slum for everything that they can, and hit several homes because those will be easier pickings.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:51 AM (cAnNx)

696 What are you trying to do?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 12:32 AM (aMlLZ)



Galveston Island estates produce an amazing quantity of pre/post 1900 antique wood pieces.

The oil/shellac/NC recipe is nearly identical to how they were first manufactured.

I'm can't break things down like a mechanical physicist trying to dive deep into the atomic-chemical composition of a Strad violin.

But olde, classic varnishes are getting harder and harder to find, in this age of polyurethane chemical wood-coffins.

I want to use olde worlde Laquer Thinners on the varnishes I use, etc.

I'm good with all this olde stuffe, too. I can make it shine, and sing.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 12:51 AM (v5iqM)

697 I'm pretty sure someone in their 20s won't be interested in my dumpy, 50-year-old self.

Besides, what would we have in common?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 12:52 AM (rJUlF)

698 It was Herbert someone. Good God he was funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 12:53 AM (PUmDY)

699 17 -- I understand your frustration at the use of Narcan. Narcan makes it possible for opioid addicts to OD over and over again. I'd like to cut a lot of them off because they will never change their behavior and will cost the tax payer an ungodly amount of money to save their worthless hides. But not all of them all irredeemable fools; a lot of them make an honest mistake. While taking opioids, the brain is so fogged that it is very easy to forget that you've just taken a dose an hour ago. That's happened to a couple of friends of friends or relatives of friends. I know I've accidentally taken two days worth of drugs simply because my brain was on vacation and it never occurred to me to double check that today is actually Tuesday and not Wednesday. And, frankly, I am still pissed as hell that the rescue squad that attempted to revive Philip Seymour Hoffman didn't have Narcan in their possession. (And, yes, I am equally as pissed at Hoffman for shooting up the crap in the first place.)

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 18, 2017 12:54 AM (lMsBz)

700 Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (9kVF0)

Awesome story

My paternal grandfather joined the navy after Pearl Harbor at the age of 41. He had a ton of pacific theatre stories

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 12:54 AM (ZTRlp)

701
Herbert Lom. Died back in 2012 at the age of 95.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 12:54 AM (8O3HH)

702 Is it the raw or the boiled linseed oil that is prone to spontaneous combustion? Or both? I understand that it is the oxidation of the oil that hardens it and makes it into a suitable finish.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Got me. I've always used boiled.

The same precautions apply to rags that have petroleum distillates in them also, that extends to waxy rags.

One of the sources for fires used to be mops that had been used with wax-impregnated floor-sweeping compound. Janitors would store them in a closet without ventilation, with the mophead on the floor. Bad combination.

I don't think that wax impregnated floor-sweeping compounds are even available anymore.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 12:55 AM (OdK9v)

703 I don't remember that Wolf Creek Pass had an escape ramp.

****

Westbound 160 from the summit is two lanes in both directions much of the way now. Still a pretty steep grade. There are two runaway ramps just before the scenic overlook that has the great view out toward Pagosa Spgs. Then it doubles back sharply and drops down to the valley floor in a short series of switchbacks (2 or 3).

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (wPiJc)

704
Captain Whitebread, 50 is a youngster around here. If you go to church, look around. There are pretty 40-yr-olds that would love them a Godly man.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (KG0mU)

705 People who have more have more to protect. Nobody kidnaps the child of a poor man. Burglars are more likely to target a mansion than a slum. And even if a slum gets hit, police are very unlikely to assign much manpower in order to recover the 10 year old tv that got stolen.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (FUu/Z)

A mansion is more likely to have a security system. They'll ransack a slum for everything that they can, and hit several homes because those will be easier pickings.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:51 AM (cAnNx)


The IRS, when the do audits, follow this same logic...

Posted by: The Audit Hat at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (vBeA5)

706 This motherfucker here...

Samuel Oakford: The White House bombs civilians

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=73417

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (s5Kql)

707 And whole mountainsides on that stretch of road are brown with beetle-killed spruce. Looks really bleak.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (wPiJc)

708 That's kind of insulting. I do that sometimes. Little Ceasar's isn't bad for $5. Of course where I am sitting around on the weekend is in my own house because I'm burned out from working all week.
Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (cAnNx)


My apologies.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (H8DUW)

709 95? Wow. It

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (PUmDY)

710 Here's Billie Holliday with a more upbeat song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5QcXk7X9ms

Posted by: rickl at July 18, 2017 12:57 AM (sdi6R)

711 My apologies.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at July 18, 2017 12:56 AM (H8DUW)



I was mostly kidding.


I usually get something besides Little Ceasars

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:58 AM (cAnNx)

712
Little Ceasar's used to be the best deal per square inch, don't know how it stacks up now.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 12:59 AM (KG0mU)

713 696. You can just skip the nc and topcoat with a good hard wax after the shellac. That's a fine finish on its own, and the process is easily reversible, if need be

Yeah - modern finishes suck on good furniture.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 12:59 AM (TwwWO)

714 Nowadays I'm sure they'd commission a blue ribbon panel to analyze the problem and spend millions of dollars on something that wouldn't be 1% as effective.

QGM

Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (9kVF0)




This man is my Brother. In Spirit, thought not in blood, nor flesh.

But he is my brother. To Teh Horde, he is safe. To the world? Fvck with him at your peril. I will be at his side, defending.

And that I can do, better than most.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 01:00 AM (v5iqM)

715 I usually get something besides Little Ceasars
Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:58 AM (cAnNx)

---

They deliver in the afterlife?

Wow.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:00 AM (s5Kql)

716 I've gotta think some of 'em are sick of all the Peter Pan, I don't wanna grow up types.
--

some are.

others marry them and happily support them, and buy them toys, like pinball machines.

/role reversal works for some, but not others...

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 01:00 AM (aT+Bx)

717 714 Nowadays I'm sure they'd commission a blue ribbon panel to analyze the problem and spend millions of dollars on something that wouldn't be 1% as effective.

QGM

Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 12:48 AM (9kVF0)



This man is my Brother. In Spirit, thought not in blood, nor flesh.

But he is my brother. To Teh Horde, he is safe. To the world? Fvck with him at your peril. I will be at his side, defending.

And that I can do, better than most.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 01:00 AM (v5iqM)

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Hooah.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:01 AM (s5Kql)

718 I don't think that wax impregnated floor-sweeping compounds are even available anymore.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 12:55 AM (OdK9v)

I remember the green sawdust stuff that Mr. Wilson, the janitor at my elementary school used to use.

At the end of my last year at elementary school, my family moved to a home about 10 blocks away on the same street. And among our new neighbors were Mr. Wilson and his wife. They had a very pretty boxer dog named Meg. Funny how stuff like that sticks with you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:03 AM (XUcIQ)

719 The Horde is outstanding

As usual and

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:03 AM (ZTRlp)

720
and what?

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 01:04 AM (KG0mU)

721 But olde, classic varnishes are getting harder and harder to find, in this age of polyurethane chemical wood-coffins.

I want to use olde worlde Laquer Thinners on the varnishes I use, etc.

I'm good with all this olde stuffe, too. I can make it shine, and sing.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 12:51 AM (v5iqM)


yeah I know, its terrible. The poly finishes are strong, but they always look cheap. I make my own shellac for French polishing the classical guitars. Those old finishes have a certain charm, sound better too where instruments are concerned.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 01:05 AM (aMlLZ)

722 Tonight I learned linseed oil can be dangerous.

Also... "dating is difficult."

/oh wait, I knew the second one.

Posted by: shibumi at July 18, 2017 01:05 AM (aT+Bx)

723 Off to snooze. Be well, Horde.
Shadilay, my dudes!
All hail blue whale.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at July 18, 2017 01:06 AM (TwwWO)

724 719 The Horde is outstanding

As usual and



Typo

my apologies

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:06 AM (ZTRlp)

725
The Internet says Herbert Lom had been typecast as a villain, but Blake Edwards, according to Lom, "rescued" him.

Edwards saw the humor in Lom's roles. Lom said he didn't take it as a compliment at first, but then learned just what he meant. Dreyfus was what Edwards saw in him.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 01:07 AM (8O3HH)

726 Tried another browser to see that truck video. I found it amusing that the car had cracks and stone chips in the windshield.

Posted by: Cavan Montgomery Jr at July 18, 2017 01:07 AM (m9X4Y)

727 Anytime Def Leppard tours, I think this song is worth the price of the ticket.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ecFPU--vvf0

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 01:07 AM (PUmDY)

728 Why yes, bitches can steal valor too.

Jan Spann; phony Vietnam veteran

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=73408

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:07 AM (s5Kql)

729 Thanks for the kind words Jim.

I hope when the time comes that you are able to find the same caliber of dedicated honor bound sailors willing to cut through the bureaucratic bullshit to fulfill your dad's wishes.

QGM

Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 01:08 AM (9kVF0)

730 I remember the green sawdust stuff that Mr. Wilson, the janitor at my elementary school used to use.

Funny how stuff like that sticks with you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I'd bet that if you smelled that stuff today, you would immediately recognize it. It wasn't unpleasant, just a little aromatic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 01:09 AM (OdK9v)

731 A mansion is more likely to have a security system. They'll ransack a slum for everything that they can, and hit several homes because those will be easier pickings.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 12:51 AM (cAnNx)

++++

The issue isn't what the criminals do, it's how the cops respond. The cops will assign more manpower to catch the thieves and recover the goods from a mansion burglary than 10 burglaries in tenement housing.

Do you honestly disagree?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:09 AM (FUu/Z)

732 Hmm...

Twatwaffle got elected to the school board in CA for her service in Vietnam.

Army says, "Who?"

She was actually in college in Cali during that time.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:10 AM (s5Kql)

733 Here's Clouseau pulls the wrong tooth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqYHb41OlSE


Peter Sellers > Albert Einstein. I need to rewatch those, I couldn't appreciate them when I was younger for whatever reason. I remember Herbert Lom being destroyed by his own laser, down to the twitching eye.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 01:10 AM (/qEW2)

734 Oh boy, she's gone full potato on FB.

Never go full potato.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:12 AM (s5Kql)

735 The issue isn't what the criminals do, it's how the cops respond. The cops will assign more manpower to catch the thieves and recover the goods from a mansion burglary than 10 burglaries in tenement housing.

Do you honestly disagree?



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:09 AM (FUu/Z)



No. I dispute the claim that they'll target the mansion over the slum. First they're more likely to live near the slums. And they know they won't have security systems. And they're less likely to get caught, because there's always the chance the people in the slum won't even call the cops on them.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:13 AM (cAnNx)

736 Funny how stuff like that sticks with you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------

The fellow that took care of our school actually lived with his wife in a little house on the school grounds. Small school, 100 students, 1st grade through the 12th grade. This guy took care of everything, from the coal-fired boiler to opening up, and closing the building. He also knew every kid in the school.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 01:14 AM (OdK9v)

737 I stay away from face book like I stay away from AIDS infected crack whores

Social media? A phone call or a direct email works

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:15 AM (ZTRlp)

738 yeah I know, its terrible. The poly finishes are strong, but they always look cheap. I make my own shellac for French polishing the classical guitars. Those old finishes have a certain charm, sound better too where instruments are concerned.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 01:05 AM (aMlLZ)



You're gonna have to email me some of your basic recipes. E mail is in my nic.

I'm not gonna compete against you in the musical instrument department, other than a hobby level "can I do it?' kind of effort.

But more than seldom, get my hands on 100++ years old furnishings, and want to be faithful to the origins thereof.

That said, your trust will be well invested. I have an insanely perfectionist approach to doing things RIGHT, insofar as restorations are concerned.

I might only do two or three pieces a year. But when I'm done, they are as they were, when new. Not just "restored".

Example. I'm trying to find "animal glue" compounds that I learned on in the early '70s.

The olde stuffe is increasingly, harde to finde.



Jim
Sunke Newe Dawne
Galvsestone, TXe





Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 01:15 AM (v5iqM)

739 >> Peter Sellers > Albert Einstein

Yes, he did look like Einstein. Also, the old guy in the "Does your dog bite?" bit sort of looked like Uncle Al as well.

The eye twitch was something Lom just originally ad-libbed in, and Edwards liked it. Lom said they got to overusing it and he would refuse to do it, saying write something good, and I won't have to twitch the eye.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 01:16 AM (8O3HH)

740 Hmm...
Twatwaffle got elected to the school board in CA for her service in Vietnam.
Army says, "Who?"
She was actually in college in Cali during that time.


Another proud member of the Blumenthal Brigade.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 01:17 AM (IcT7t)

741 737 I stay away from face book like I stay away from AIDS infected crack whores

Social media? A phone call or a direct email works
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:15 AM (ZTRlp)

---

Deactivated my FB account a while ago.

Still can read posts of stolen valor fucks.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:17 AM (s5Kql)

742
So I bought back in to netflix the other day. Anybody have any recommendations?

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 01:18 AM (KG0mU)

743 Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 01:17 AM (IcT7t)

---

I love when politicians get called out on stolen valor stuff.

And in Cali, even better.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:19 AM (s5Kql)

744 I haven't seen a cop in our neighborhood ever. There's no crime. That simple.

At any rate, the city council is far more concerned about 'greenways', soccer fields, bike paths and such.

That my taxes should be spent on such indulgences that are for the leisure use by a small segment of the population is galling. Oh, did I mention that we have a velodrome?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 01:19 AM (OdK9v)

745 On the topic of opioids. Retired Peace Officer. Here in Colorado, we legalized marijuana and made it taxable. There were legal conditions, licenses, possession limits, and taxes. All of which are ignored. Nobody enforces any of them. As are any other laws they happen to break in passing. In the western part of my county, every so often roads are blocked by non-English speaking Hispanics who are carrying AK or SKS variants while the harvest is moved out. Similar stories all over the state. And semi-loads of marijuana products from Colorado and Oregon are taking care of the US demand, and the former routes for pot are being used to bring in brown tar heroin from Mexico. The cartels can afford to pay off prosecutors and judges, and cops get in trouble for busting them.

We are part of the route for the heroin and we are flooded with it. Every cop in my county has been trained and carries NarCan. We have several OD's a week, and several a month do not make it [That from the county coroner, who I know.] in our rural mountain county.

A week ago, I talked to two state reps on the Appropriations Committee of the Colorado legislature. Under the constitutional amendment legalizing marijuana 100% of the tax receipts were supposed to go to education. IF we were getting the taxes for the years since legalization, we should have gotten between $1-2 Billion. We have gotten $300 million. Only $40 million has gone to education in those years. The Democrat controlled state House uses the money as a slush fund for anything they want. Our Republicans, like Congress, will give in to anything the Democrats want.

We need to decide what we will legalize, consistently, and what we will make illegal under what conditions and enforce it. And we need to control our borders to keep out the drugs and people we want to keep out. OUR country, our choice.

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at July 18, 2017 01:19 AM (X2Lee)

746 I have achieved the impossible: I have completed my musical bucket list. Today the score for the movie "Lady Jane" by Stephan Oliver hit my mailbox, and was promptly ripped to my computer. Several years ago, John Barry finally let Intrada release "Hanover Street". Ditto Basil Poledoris and "Amerika" and the extended version of "Return of the Black Stallion" by Georges Delarue. My youngest son gave me "Shaka Zulu" a couple of Christmases ago, and I scooped up "Black Robe" by Georges Delarue on eBay. So, essentially, I am done. I honestly can't think of any other score I can't live without. "Lady Jane" was my last Great White Whale. (No, you don't want to know how much money I've got tied up in this obsession with sound tracks. It's positively obscene.)

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 18, 2017 01:19 AM (lMsBz)

747 I bought back in to netflix the other day. Anybody have any recommendations?


Jack Taylor

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:20 AM (ZTRlp)

748 Example. I'm trying to find "animal glue" compounds that I learned on in the early '70s.

The olde stuffe is increasingly, harde to finde.



Jim
Sunke Newe Dawne
Galvsestone, TXe





Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 01:15 AM (v5iqM)

I used to have some of that. Little shiny brown flattened pellets, smaller than peas. Don't know if I can still find it now, or not.

Hide glue. Made from losing race horses, LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:21 AM (XUcIQ)

749 No. I dispute the claim that they'll target the mansion over the slum. First they're more likely to live near the slums. And they know they won't have security systems. And they're less likely to get caught, because there's always the chance the people in the slum won't even call the cops on them.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:13 AM (cAnNx)

++++

You are probably right about people with less valuable property not even bothering to call the cops.

Perhaps this is a good time to revisit what the initial disagreement is. Whether or not it is reasonable to charge higher property taxes to those that own more valuable property.

Those with more valuable property have more to protect and will benefit more from police (and fire, etc) services than those with less valuable property. Therefore, it is fair to base property taxes on the value of the property.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:21 AM (pvjTE)

750 That my taxes should be spent on such indulgences that are for the leisure use by a small segment of the population is galling. Oh, did I mention that we have a velodrome?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 18, 2017 01:19 AM (OdK9v)

(sings) "I want a Hippodrome for Christmas."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:22 AM (XUcIQ)

751 ***TOP FIVE SIGNS THE GAL YOU LIKE AT eHARMONY AIN'T WHAT SHE APPEARS TO BE***

5. Says she's a Lena Dunham fan

4. Claims to be 23 but her favorite drink is Thunderbird with grapefruit juice

3. Has everyone who has "steak" listed in their advertisement, blocked from seeing her

2. Her turn-ons include "having fun with TSA agents" and smuggling uranium up her hoo-hah

1. She's Caitlyn Jenner

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 18, 2017 01:23 AM (eMKNe)

752 >>>That my taxes should be spent on such indulgences that are for the leisure use by a small segment of the population is galling. Oh, did I mention that we have a velodrome?


Good use for that gas tax

/////

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:24 AM (ZTRlp)

753
Thanks Mis Hum, got it.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 01:24 AM (KG0mU)

754 Those with more valuable property have more to protect and will benefit more from police (and fire, etc) services than those with less valuable property. Therefore, it is fair to base property taxes on the value of the property.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:21 AM (pvjTE)

More skin in the game.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:25 AM (XUcIQ)

755 683 Is it the raw or the boiled linseed oil that is
prone to spontaneous combustion? Or both? I understand that it is the
oxidation of the oil that hardens it and makes it into a suitable
finish.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Both linseed oil and tung oil finishes rely on the ready breakdown of double bonds in the oils due to exposure to air, or oxidation, to create a crosslinked finished film. "Boiled" refers to these oils heated to ensure that they are oxygen free when stored prior to use.

These finishes differ from shellac or varnish in that they are not soluble in solvent once cured.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2017 01:25 AM (6jaju)

756 Goodnight, everyone.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 18, 2017 01:25 AM (rJUlF)

757 But more than seldom, get my hands on 100++ years old furnishings, and want to be faithful to the origins thereof.

That said, your trust will be well invested. I have an insanely perfectionist approach to doing things RIGHT, insofar as restorations are concerned.

I might only do two or three pieces a year. But when I'm done, they are as they were, when new. Not just "restored".

Example. I'm trying to find "animal glue" compounds that I learned on in the early '70s.

The olde stuffe is increasingly, harde to finde.



Jim
Sunke Newe Dawne
Galvsestone, TXe



Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 01:15 AM (v5iqM)

I don't have a secret recipe. I just buy shellac flakes and mix them with the right amount of ever-clear. Ever-clear is the safest, some wood alcohols can damage your optic nerve. Ever-clear isn't as aggressive either, so you can build coats faster when French polishing.

The flakes you can get online, there are a few places that sell different flakes. If you want a regular blond, basically a slightly tinted shellac, you can get that from guitar supply, you can also get your hide glue there too. Stew-mac, or LMI sells both shellac and hide glue flakes.

In a pinch you can use that bullseye shellac home depot sells, but get the sealer shellac, its dewaxed.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 18, 2017 01:26 AM (aMlLZ)

758 Goodnight CW. Hope you're feeling better soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 18, 2017 01:27 AM (eMKNe)

759 >>>Therefore, it is fair to base property taxes on the value of the property.

No, consider a company that employees 100 people at a factory. Most factories don't require PD or FD services. Don't require schools or hospitals. Yet that piece of property will have a higher value and a larger tax

Residential,costs to a city are so much more than industrial/business costs

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:28 AM (ZTRlp)

760 On Instapundit, leads to PJMedia "Should Amazon be broken up to save brick and mortar stores?"


I think brick and mortar stores should go online with a web page and advertise; compete for business.

People, (at least I do) go to Amazon for the convenience. Order online and it gets delivered. Local stores don't want the expense of delivery, but they could alert me to in store specials. I would/could add their store to my shopping list if I knew they had something I wanted.

More importantly, I don't want local stores sending me advertising on things they have that I don't want or need.

Walmart's web site online search really sucks, as in really fails to find items I am looking for. I would order online at Walmart, and pickup in store if their search function worked. If I could search the local store inventory for a specific item, and then put a hold on that item, I could then go to the store to pick it up. But retail merchandising wants you in the store, lost, wandering around looking for the one thing you came after, and buying on impulse a ton of things you were not looking for, (he said, dangling his participle being too poorly educated to think of another way to say what he wanted to say.)

I go to Walmart for grocery because when I shop at other groceries, my shopping list costs me ten percent more than the same items at Walmart.

and it looks like they might be building a sam's club right across the street from Walmart.

and it's nearly two am and no one cares. which is alright. I'm just venting, and amusing myself, since it looks like I'll be awake all night, again.

Posted by: Cavan Montgomery Jr at July 18, 2017 01:29 AM (m9X4Y)

761 But now I'm really considering asking her out. Realistically, I would pull my head out of my ass upon the ralization of how terrible the odds are. Or Should I give it a try? How would I broach it without making an ass out of myself?

I there a way of keeping your options open? A plan 'B' if you will?

Posted by: Max Power at July 18, 2017 01:29 AM (QCc6B)

762 Thanks for the kind words Jim.

I hope when the time comes that you are able to find the same caliber of dedicated honor bound sailors willing to cut through the bureaucratic bullshit to fulfill your dad's wishes.

QGM

Posted by: Quantum Grease Monkey at July 18, 2017 01:08 AM (9kVF0)




I only have to convive my way to entrance to the CPO Club, on base at Point Loma.

A few drinks, a few conversations later, this'll all fall into place, of it's own accord.

I know how to look for a set of Dolphins on the breast, over the ribbons.

And damn sure, I'll be carrying the Olde Man's full Service Jacket (folder) and roster of ships, etc., with me.

He was in Westpac, aboard Fleet Boats, Guppies, Fast Attacks and Polaris Boats, at the peak of the Cold War ops. A list of the subs aboard which he served, would result in a Salute from the most Senior Officer on deck, at any given command.

Fucking A, they'd treat his ashes with the utmost respect, and Honors.

If I can be but 1/10th of the man he was, I'll count my life as a success.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 01:30 AM (v5iqM)

763 Deactivated my FB account a while ago.

Still can read posts of stolen valor fucks.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:17 AM (s5Kql)


You are better off without facebook.

Never say the attraction.

Have always been FB free.

P.S. Join us at the Vegas Moron Meet-up.

Posted by: The Vegas Hat, Oh Yah! at July 18, 2017 01:30 AM (vBeA5)

764 Jack Taylor


*****


Really good series. The lead actor (Ian Glen?) has bailed out- there will not be any new episodes. Loved the grittiness. Missus Muldoon also loved it.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 01:31 AM (wPiJc)

765 A Dame Not To Fuck With is my favorite Raymond Chandler.

Netflix: Archer, King Arthur, Tropic Thunder, Daredevil, Sherlock.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 18, 2017 01:31 AM (rnAwa)

766 Netflix: Colin Quinn, Unconstitutional is good.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 18, 2017 01:33 AM (rnAwa)

767 lol Hat.

All depends on fundage.

I'm seeing my grandbabies in August and HS reunion in HI in November.

Oh, and Texas MoMee in October.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:33 AM (s5Kql)

768 The lead actor (Ian Glen?) has bailed out- there will not Be any new episodes


NOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:35 AM (ZTRlp)

769 At any rate, the city council is far more concerned about 'greenways', soccer fields, bike paths and such.

That my taxes should be spent on such indulgences that are for the leisure use by a small segment of the population is galling. Oh, did I mention that we have a velodrome?

Posted by: Mike Hammer


Oh stop whining. We know how to optimally utilize your resources. Far better than you do. That gives us the right to appropriate them. Don't be such a selfish, greedy bastard, who wants to deprive underprivileged citizens of the benefits of velodromes, and Greentech and Solyndra and high speed rail, and economic stimulus like union pensions and bailouts and shit. You need to pay your fair share.

Posted by: Terry McAuliffe at July 18, 2017 01:36 AM (/qEW2)

770
California is very inconsistent in commercial property tax. Some businesses pay next to nothing while others are taxed through the roof. A lot of room for reform here.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 01:36 AM (KG0mU)

771

Hide glue, dewaxed shellac flakes, etc.:

http://echoarchery.com/primitive-supplies

Posted by: Arbalest at July 18, 2017 01:36 AM (FlRtG)

772 Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 01:36 AM (KG0mU)

Commercial RE taxation is becoming an issue here in WI

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:37 AM (ZTRlp)

773 Those with more valuable property have more to protect and will benefit more from police (and fire, etc) services than those with less valuable property.

And they pay more for their insurance.

Therefore, it is fair to base property taxes on the value of the property.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:21 AM (pvjTE)


"Fairness" is a really difficult quality to quantify. When I build on my land I enhance the value of my neighbor's property. So, my building should have the effect that my neighbor has to pay more ...

No.

And most of the work of the police takes place in the poorest sections of the area. That is true everywhere. It isn't the rich people (or middle class) who are causing the police force to work overtime. The police do not spend their time investigating the burglaries of million dollar houses. Those instances tend to be pretty rare, in the landscape of crime. And even when they happen that doesn't mean that a whole task force is assigned to the case.

Wealth taxes are never really "fair" and they are the most dangerous and insidious sorts of taxes that any government can institute.

As to city/county services, people basically use them equally - at least they have that opportunity. "Fair" would be that they are charged in that manner. I'm not saying that that is practical but that is what is truly "fair".

Somewhere down the line the idea that "equal percentage" == "fair" came into being. There is no reason for anyone to have ever accepted this sort of nonsense, but it has been cemented into our popular culture. And then the left even pushed forward with the idea that only "graduating percentages for higher absolute amounts" == "fair", which is nothing short of batshit insane.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 01:38 AM (rZ+mb)

774 759 >>>Therefore, it is fair to base property taxes on the value of the property.

No, consider a company that employees 100 people at a factory. Most factories don't require PD or FD services. Don't require schools or hospitals. Yet that piece of property will have a higher value and a larger tax

Residential,costs to a city are so much more than industrial/business costs

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:28 AM (ZTRlp)

++++

What kind of factory are we talking about here? No FD needs... I guess they aren't using any kind of hazardous or flammable materials.Plus, they are somehow immune to catching fire.

No need for hospitals? The employees never sustain any injuries? I find that very difficult to believe. Even a factory that never has employee injuries must have situations where someone has a heart attack or chokes on a piece of food. No?

No PD? Nobody ever wants to steal from the place? Not even the employees? What kind of worthless product is being made in that factory of yours?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:40 AM (FUu/Z)

775 So the next Lego movie has been announced. The Lego Ninjago Movie. I don't forsee that being as successful as the first one or Lego Batman.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:42 AM (cAnNx)

776 I'm to the snoozer, y'all

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 18, 2017 01:43 AM (v5iqM)

777 In the western part of my county, every so often roads are blocked by non-English speaking Hispanics who are carrying AK or SKS variants while the harvest is moved out. Similar stories all over the state. And semi-loads of marijuana products from Colorado and Oregon are taking care of the US demand,

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at July 18, 2017 01:19 AM (X2Lee)



******


Are you talking about excess product from rec pot shops being shipped out, or illegal grow operations? It seems like every small mountain town has 2-5 recreational pot shops, each with their own grow operation. I wonder how much product they actually crank out.

My son-in-law owns a single medical marijuana shops (in Colorado). They have not had any trouble (yet) with cartels or low-lives trying to burgle, but I figure it is only a matter of time before they are targeted.

He is facing a state tax audit, which is awkward because nobody seems to know what the rules are or how they are going to be enforced.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 01:44 AM (wPiJc)

778 John Boy: Try "Rake" starring Robert Roxborough (sp?) It's the Australian original, not the American rip off. Sometimes, I have a little trouble following it because I know squat about the British court system. But it is very funny and more than a little raunchy.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 18, 2017 01:44 AM (lMsBz)

779 No PD? Nobody ever wants to steal from the place? Not even the employees? What kind of worthless product is being made in that factory of yours?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:40 AM (FUu/Z)


The police are not around to protect any businesses or houses from theft or anything. That is the responsibility of those businesses and houses. The police are around to arrest those who have already committed those crimes, if they can catch them. It is the business' responsibility to make sure its employees don't steal from it, that no one can enter the place at night and burn it to the ground, ... not any police force. The same for your house. The police are not around to personally protect you or me or our stuff.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 01:44 AM (rZ+mb)

780 Hasta la nite nite, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn


****


Later Jim

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 01:45 AM (wPiJc)

781 New video from Rebel Media, showing a church in Iraq desecrated by the ISIS scum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKbof8Ua1g

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:46 AM (XUcIQ)

782 Most up to date factories (there are exceptions) have few fires. Ambulances are seen more frequently than a fire truck. Ambulances charge the patient. They are not dispatched out of the goodness of the heart

Most towns with factory(ies) already had a hospital or a clinic.

Service jobs/retail is also low key low service impact

Start a new town anon with only residential and I will start a new town with only businesses.

Who do you think will have the bigger budget for "the necessities"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:47 AM (ZTRlp)

783 I wonder if what really has Bill Kristol upset about Trump having all that Made in America stuff on the White House is knowing that his preferred choice of Hillary would never have been able to hop up in that firetruck.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:48 AM (cAnNx)

784 I need your touch, don't need your love. Pretty good lyrics.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 01:48 AM (PUmDY)

785 Niters, Jim.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:48 AM (s5Kql)

786
Goodnite all and thanks for the netflix suggestions - I added them to my list.

Posted by: John Boy Walnut at July 18, 2017 01:48 AM (KG0mU)

787 nite John Boy.

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:49 AM (s5Kql)

788 783 I wonder if what really has Bill Kristol upset about Trump having all that Made in America stuff on the White House is knowing that his preferred choice of Hillary would never have been able to hop up in that firetruck.
Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:48 AM (cAnNx)

An ambulance & a corpseman

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 18, 2017 01:50 AM (ZTRlp)

789 I wonder if what really has Bill Kristol upset about Trump having all that Made in America stuff on the White House is knowing that his preferred choice of Hillary would never have been able to hop up in that firetruck.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:48 AM (cAnNx)

But they could throw her in a Scooby-van like a side of beef easy enough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:50 AM (XUcIQ)

790 But they could throw her in a Scooby-van like a side of beef easy enough.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:50 AM (XUcIQ)

---

LOL

Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:51 AM (s5Kql)

791 779 No PD? Nobody ever wants to steal from the place? Not even the employees? What kind of worthless product is being made in that factory of yours?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:40 AM (FUu/Z)

The police are not around to protect any businesses or houses from theft or anything. That is the responsibility of those businesses and houses. The police are around to arrest those who have already committed those crimes, if they can catch them. It is the business' responsibility to make sure its employees don't steal from it, that no one can enter the place at night and burn it to the ground, ... not any police force. The same for your house. The police are not around to personally protect you or me or our stuff.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 01:44 AM (rZ+mb)

++++

False. You have never seen the police patroling in your community? That is a preventive measure. It is an important part of police work and is used in virtually every community. Criminals usually don't commit their crimes in front of the cops, so a police presense has a deterrent effect on crime.

As far as the factory who gets ripped off by its own employees. That too is a police matter. The factory's owners will call the cops after the fact to report the crime. If they know who did it, they will report that to the cops as well. Then the cops will investigate the crime and make arrests. The DA will file charges.

Really? None of this is familiar to you?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:52 AM (pvjTE)

792
Well, Fedora has just released version 26 (well, I just found out about it), and I'm going to try an in-place upgrade for a VM. It's the first in-place Linux distro upgrade I've ever attempted, so I'm sure I'll have fun.

The VM "snapshot" feature is great.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 18, 2017 01:53 AM (8O3HH)

793 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 18, 2017 01:53 AM (IcT7t)

794 Good night, Blanco.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 01:55 AM (XUcIQ)

795 So the next Lego movie has been announced. The Lego Ninjago Movie. I don't forsee that being as successful as the first one or Lego Batman.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:42 AM (cAnNx)


I think America is ready for a Armo movie about Michelle Fields.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 01:59 AM (84p6I)

796 Ambulance service?


In the olden days, you didn't call for an ambulance. Somebody put you in the back seat of the car and took you to the hospital.

Hell, I had an uncle who drove himself to the hospital when he broke his hip cutting trees.

Posted by: Cavan Montgomery Jr at July 18, 2017 01:59 AM (m9X4Y)

797 795 So the next Lego movie has been announced. The Lego Ninjago Movie. I don't forsee that being as successful as the first one or Lego Batman.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 01:42 AM (cAnNx)

I think America is ready for a Armo movie about Michelle Fields.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 01:59 AM (84p6I)



Someone should ask her if she would like to play the new Nintendo Switch game ARMS.

Posted by: buzzion at July 18, 2017 02:00 AM (cAnNx)

798 New video from Rebel Media, showing a church in Iraq desecrated by the ISIS scum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKbof8Ua1g

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


If the left argues that we are obligated to let in immigrants out of compassion, I'd say: fine.

It's a matter of triage, and we need to give top priority to evacuating Christians (and Jews, if there are any left) out of the Middle East. We need to radically modify whatever stupid quotas are in place. And Ezra Levant is a class act.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 02:01 AM (/qEW2)

799 It's a matter of triage, and we need to give top priority to evacuating Christians (and Jews, if there are any left) out of the Middle East. We need to radically modify whatever stupid quotas are in place. And Ezra Levant is a class act.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 02:01 AM (/qEW2)

Another approach would be to arm the living Hell out of Christians and Jews in the Middle East, and then pointedly look away while they do what has to be done.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 02:05 AM (XUcIQ)

800 lol Hat.

All depends on fundage.

I'm seeing my grandbabies in August and HS reunion in HI in November.

Oh, and Texas MoMee in October.
Posted by: SMFH at July 18, 2017 01:33 AM (s5Kql)


Any way I can help comp costs, I will.

Everyone I've met in person that I've met in the HQ have been awesome. I'm just hoping that Sept. will continue that.

Posted by: The Vegas Hat, Oh Yah! at July 18, 2017 02:07 AM (vBeA5)

801 Baby Graboids.

Be very quiet, but do get all of your elephant guns loaded and ready.

Quad .50s in an anti-aircraft mount work well, too.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 18, 2017 02:08 AM (brIR5)

802 I noticed that Ace has a nice ad on the front page for kitchen appliances; grills, panini press and etc.

So I did a little research. Amazon has the same thing. Same price range, different brand names. Also Walmart. I had one of those panini things from Walmart; cheap Chinese made crap. The mechanism that releases the griddle plates jammed, and struggling to get the damn plates out, I broke the cheap plastic shell rendering the appliance useless as far as I was concerned. It went to the trash heap.

But now I want a grilled deli sandwich. So I'm looking. For the same dollars, I can get a two burner stove top griddle made from cast iron. No moving parts. Easy washing. and there is a thing called a 'grill press' for squashing your deli sandwich while you grill it. Nothing to take apart, nothing to break, no point of failure as long as you have fire.

With my luck, I'll probably have a grease fire and burn the house down. That might solve the dry rot, and leaking roof problem, but it would be a terrible inconvenience while the house was being rebuilt.


Posted by: Cavan Montgomery Jr at July 18, 2017 02:09 AM (m9X4Y)

803 Passion killer, you're too much...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ5bS3_BCDs



Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 02:10 AM (PUmDY)

804 Well, I am going to hit the sack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 18, 2017 02:16 AM (XUcIQ)

805 Adios AOP.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 02:19 AM (wPiJc)

806 I had to drive myself to the hospital for appendicitis. Mom said take a bm.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at July 18, 2017 02:19 AM (PUmDY)

807 False. You have never seen the police patroling in your community? That is a preventive measure. It is an important part of police work and is used in virtually every community. Criminals usually don't commit their crimes in front of the cops, so a police presense has a deterrent effect on crime.

But, of course, the SCOTUS has long ago decided (correctly) that the police are under no obligations to do anything of the sort. Besides, while one will see some beat cops in nice areas of the city the fact is that most patrols take place in the higher crime areas. And even in the good areas, they aren't patrolling because of the people who live there, so who is really causing that cost?

As far as the factory who gets ripped off by its own employees. That too is a police matter. The factory's owners will call the cops after the fact to report the crime. If they know who did it, they will report that to the cops as well. Then the cops will investigate the crime and make arrests. The DA will file charges.

Really? None of this is familiar to you?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 01:52 AM (pvjTE)


The police run investigations. Yes. That's one of their actual jobs. But I would put money down that investigative costs of most police forces are not mostly concentrated on high-end thefts. Police forces in good areas tend not to be the ones stretched to the limit because of all the cases they're working on. Most theft investigations are probably involving mini-marts, not diamond dealers ... because the diamond dealers tend to take their own security seriously (as they have more to lose) and are hit much less frequently than your run-of-the-mill liquor store holdup.

And I really think this idea that other people are more likely to try and steal from me because I have a nice house and things doesn't translate into the idea that I am costing society more. If I get robbed it is not I who is the cost on society and the police. It's the people who robbed me who are incurring that cost on the community police force.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 02:24 AM (rZ+mb)

808 Minute 6: Tucker Carlson identifies as a Chinese woman. He does kind of look like a Chinese woman. I could imagine him doing the Mikado.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvDWk0vHtrs

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 02:31 AM (/qEW2)

809 Ann was targeted by some Lefty that saw her name on the flight manifest and decided to screw with her. If they had another seat to move Ann to, they had an empty seat to give to the late-arriving woman.

Posted by: Darrell at July 18, 2017 02:31 AM (oLhbH)

810 Okay, horde, after 50 years (probably more like 60, but I only know about 50), I have to purchase a new Coleman stove. Dad's just isn't cutting it any more and I can only fix it so much, and at some point it is going to blow up in my face.

Recommendations?

I'm kinda looking at the new red ones with the baffled burners, but I haven't used a propane one yet so....

Put my on some knowledge.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 18, 2017 02:40 AM (NXsWM)

811
I'm kinda looking at the new red ones with the baffled burners, but I haven't used a propane one yet so....


*****


Lordy. I haven't used a Coleman stove in 10-12 years. I always liked the tactile feel of the white fuel, pump up the tank to pressurize it, but last one I used was a propane one with the small propane canisters. It worked just fine. I actually ran it off a 5 gallon propane tank a time or two, without a pressure regulator, so it was probably sort of dangerous in its own right. Can't speak to the latest iterations though.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 02:49 AM (wPiJc)

812 But, of course, the SCOTUS has long ago decided (correctly) that the police are under no obligations to do anything of the sort. Besides, while one will see some beat cops in nice areas of the city the fact is that most patrols take place in the higher crime areas. And even in the good areas, they aren't patrolling because of the people who live there, so who is really causing that cost?

Yes, SCOTUS, in response to a lawsuit trying hold the cops liable for failure to protect, said that the cops aren't obligated to protect.

So what? Cities still send their cops out to patrol the community. After all, the cops don't work for SCOTUS, they work for the city. And, the good citizens of the community, especially those that are paying those property taxes, want the cops patrolling. So, patrol they do.

The police run investigations. Yes. That's one of their actual jobs. But I would put money down that investigative costs of most police forces are not mostly concentrated on high-end thefts. Police forces in good areas tend not to be the ones stretched to the limit because of all the cases they're working on. Most theft investigations are probably involving mini-marts, not diamond dealers ... because the diamond dealers tend to take their own security seriously (as they have more to lose) and are hit much less frequently than your run-of-the-mill liquor store holdup.

And I really think this idea that other people are more likely to try and steal from me because I have a nice house and things doesn't translate into the idea that I am costing society more. If I get robbed it is not I who is the cost on society and the police. It's the people who robbed me who are incurring that cost on the community police force.


Diamond dealers? I have no expertise in that trade, but it is my impression that they operate out of storefronts. Low value real estate, relatively speaking. So, their property taxes would be relatively low.

But, while it's true that they have more security than many, that still involves the cops. The dealer will have an alarm system. It is monitored by an alarm monitoring company. And if they pick up an alarm, they call the cops. And the cops respond. In force. Quickly.

Bottom line: how should we decide on how much police we need and how should it be paid for. If you ask the people who have a lot, they tend to want a lot of police. If you ask people who have not so much, they tend to be willing to make due with less. That's where paying for it comes in. Those who don't have much are less inclined to give a big chunk in order to have a big police presence. Those who have more see more of a value in having a robust police force. If nothing else, to protect them and their stuff from those who have less.

That's why a property tax makes sense for funding the cops. The people who don't want to pay much aren't taxed much. The people who want more cops tend to have more valuable real estate, so they get the higher tax bill. If you fund the cops with a sales tax, it will be tougher for the wealthy to get more cops for their communities.

BTW, you mentioned a wealth tax, but a property tax isn't a wealth tax. Property taxes only tax real estate, not all property. Nobody is taxing bank accounts or diamonds.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 02:52 AM (FUu/Z)

813 The big news topic for today is gonna be McTurtle's about face on replacing OCare; he is now for a straight repeal of it (with a 2 year wind down). Trump has already signaled his agreement with the plan.

He had no choice as he couldn't get 50 Repubs to agree to any version of the replace portion of the bill.

So now we get to see just how much bullshit the Congress has been peddling for the last 8 months about how impossible it is to simply repeal OCare. Even though they passed it before in the last Congress.
Anyhow, a significant victory may now be at hand.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2017 02:57 AM (6jaju)

814 If you have an eco-friendly refrigerator, you won't need a stove.

Posted by: Behailu Kebede, former resident of Grenfell Tower, London at July 18, 2017 03:04 AM (/qEW2)

815 Anyhow, a significant victory may now be at hand.


*****

Perhaps. But a Pyrrhic victory at that. The system is too far gone. Physicians have abdicated their role as gatekeeper. The whole system is broken. Health care is like the Seinfeld episode with JFK's golf clubs. Obama beat the hell out of the system, broke it, and now the Republicans in Congress are going to own the tattered remains. It's broken and it isn't going to be fixed by anything the Repubs do.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 03:09 AM (wPiJc)

816 The big news topic for today is gonna be McTurtle's about face on replacing OCare; he is now for a straight repeal of it (with a 2 year wind down). Trump has already signaled his agreement with the plan.

He had no choice as he couldn't get 50 Repubs to agree to any version of the replace portion of the bill.

So now we get to see just how much bullshit the Congress has been peddling for the last 8 months about how impossible it is to simply repeal OCare. Even though they passed it before in the last Congress.
Anyhow, a significant victory may now be at hand.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 18, 2017 02:57 AM (6jaju)


Repeal with a phase out is something I've advocated.

This is a good sign if true.

Posted by: The Repealing Hat at July 18, 2017 03:10 AM (vBeA5)

817 Yes, SCOTUS, in response to a lawsuit trying hold the cops liable for failure to protect, said that the cops aren't obligated to protect.

So what?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 02:52 AM (FUu/Z)


Jumping into this conversation, that' a big BUT ('So what?'). So how do we know when they are there to protect us and not run some government-approved and financed scam on the taxpayers?

I'm rethinking that whole 'qualified immunity' concept. Why can't I sue the shit out the cop, the department, the city and anybody else who springs to mind when the cops are at another residence and end up shooting your loving Lab who only wanted a hug when the nice policemen jumped the fence.

Truthfully, I don't want cops with swagger. A little attitude is quite okay, when appropriate. It seems to me as if every training in every police agency across this Country all use videos of positive tv and films about S.W.A.T. It's kind of like athletes: I remember when they were not so bulked up; same with the cops. With that bulking up not only comes attitude but swagger, a deadly combination for someone whose job description is 'to protect and serve' not 'to roust and shoot'. It's another example of the insidious, overreaching State, this one being a militarized police force which, as currently happens, applies or ignores the law at will.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 03:10 AM (84p6I)

818 When I hear Republican reps talk about "market-based" reforms I just laugh. That ship not only has sailed, it sunk somewhere in the mid-Atlantic.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 03:11 AM (wPiJc)

819 Aw, screw it. I'm going back to limericks.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 03:13 AM (wPiJc)

820 Police forces are more overworked and larger in high crime areas - i.e. generally poorer sections.

BTW, you mentioned a wealth tax, but a property tax isn't a wealth tax. Property taxes only tax real estate, not all property. Nobody is taxing bank accounts or diamonds.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 02:52 AM (FUu/Z)


Property tax is a wealth tax. It is a tax on a portion of a person's wealth - assets that don't do anything but sit there, and further, which are generally taxed according to their value (which is the case you are arguing for). So my neighbors all build multi-million dollar houses which raises the value of my property which means with no change in anything about my life I become liable for more taxes - maybe even enough that I can no longer afford to live in my house, which hasn't been changed, at all.

Again, I am not saying that it is practical or feasible to actually create a fair system for funding a lot of these services - because a large percentage of those who actually incur costs on these services are unable to pay for them, themselves. So one can argue that an unfair form of revenue collection is necessary - but one must keep in mind that it is UNFAIR, even if necessary (and I'm not entirely convinced about that necessity, either, as so many expenditures of these communities involve total bullshit).

And, BTW, I got stopped a little while ago for an outdated inspection. It had just totally slipped my mind. The cop also happily threw in the lack of a current emissions certification (which is such a load of crap). Those two little things added up to something like $125. Eh, okay. By the time all the fees and bullshit was added up it was almost $500. The fines were the least of the costs! That is what we call "highway robbery". It's great to be able to pay shitloads in property taxes to be treated to shit like that. But, this is a nice area so I guess we are expected to be able to pay more to help out and there has to be something to keep the cops busy since we don't really have much crime, to speak of.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 03:14 AM (rZ+mb)

821 Aw, screw it. I'm going back to limericks.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 18, 2017 03:13 AM (wPiJc)


There was a young man named Eanis...

Posted by: The Limerick Hat at July 18, 2017 03:14 AM (vBeA5)

822 Posted by: The Limerick Hat at July 18, 2017 03:14 AM (vBeA5)


There once was a young man named Clenis,
An Arkansas pol claimed a geni's
When, lo and behold!
Truth be told:
He campaigned using his penis.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 03:29 AM (84p6I)

823 Finally, McConnel is giving up on the hopeless cause of o-care light and is now doing what he should have done since day 1... Repeal and Delay.

McConnel just released a statement saying that the senate will vote on the full repeal bill that Obama vetoed in 2015. This will almost certainly pass. For one, the GOP senators currently on the fence already voted for it, so they won't risk being labeled as flip-flippers and invoking garunteed primary challenges. Two, the "delay" part gives them cover to say that repeal is merely the first step to producing a better system. Once it does pass, Ocare will have two years before being terminated, which is plenty of time to replace it with a free market solution.

This is also garunteed to get some dems onboard, because the only options for them is either to work with the GOP to draft a bill or do nothing as Ocare dies, both of which are perfectly fine with Republicans (meaning the dems have zero leverage).

Of course, I've learned to never ever underestimate the GOP's stunning ability to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. So we'll see.

If everything pans out though, we can move to Taxes, which will really jump start the economy and probably be Trump's defining legislative achievement.

Posted by: JC at July 18, 2017 03:29 AM (IBZ02)

824 And, BTW, I got stopped a little while ago for an outdated inspection. It had just totally slipped my mind. The cop also happily threw in the lack of a current emissions certification (which is such a load of crap). Those two little things added up to something like $125. Eh, okay. By the time all the fees and bullshit was added up it was almost $500. The fines were the least of the costs! That is what we call "highway robbery". It's great to be able to pay shitloads in property taxes to be treated to shit like that. But, this is a nice area so I guess we are expected to be able to pay more to help out and there has to be something to keep the cops busy since we don't really have much crime, to speak of.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 03:14 AM (rZ+mb)

++++

Outdated inspection... What state is that, Jersey?

No doubt there s unfairness in taxes, even just property taxes. In CA, prop 13 prevents the kind of tax inflation you are talking about. But, since the taxes get locked in, you have a situation where two identical homes, located right next to each other, can be taxed at vastly different rates. The home owned by a well-off retired couple who bought their home 30 years ago gets taxed at the appraised value from 30 years ago. Meanwhile, the young couple just starting out who just bought the same house 2 years ago gets taxed at that rate.

The only fair tax I can think of is the one that I don't have to pay.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 03:32 AM (pvjTE)

825 Aw, screw it. I'm going back to limericks.

Posted by: Muldoon


Most people here complain about overrated musicians, like Nickelback. My pet peeve is overrated limericists, like Edward Lear.
HIS LAST LINE WAS ALWAYS THE SAME AS THE FIRST LINE, which is just lazy and stupid. Lewis Carroll was much more talented at limericks. You are much more talented at them. You scare me at the kind of crap you put together in your mind. I wholeheartedly encourage you to persist, as Elizabeth Warren might say.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 03:32 AM (/qEW2)

826 There once was a man name of Lear
Who was much over rated I fear
When he wrote a limerick
He used only one trick
There once was a man name of Lear

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2017 03:35 AM (ul9CR)

827 I can't bear watching a whole Tucker segment. He's picking on mentally retarded people. You can tell he's toying with them. And he makes that face "WTF are you talking about?" Not sporting.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 03:39 AM (/qEW2)

828 He used only one trick
There once was a man name of Lear

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?


MisHum, can you please ban this person?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 03:40 AM (/qEW2)

829 828 WTH???

Posted by: MAxIE at July 18, 2017 03:49 AM (9TR2V)

830 Lol. Not a peep out of Ace today about the Senate healthcare clusterfuck.

Ace is contractually bound by his funders to say nothing negative about the current Congress. Pathetic

Obamacare is here forever

Posted by: Obamacare is here forever at July 18, 2017 03:51 AM (FEF+N)

831 I would at least give him another chance to come up with a better limerick first. Then ban hammer him if its not better.

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2017 03:55 AM (9g/6M)

832 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 03:40 AM (/qEW2)

May I ask what I did to offend?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2017 04:02 AM (ul9CR)

833 May I ask what I did to offend?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?


I was kidding. And I have insomnia, and I'm drunk. I'm sorry.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 04:07 AM (/qEW2)

834 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at July 18, 2017 04:12 AM (9g/6M)

835 Outdated inspection... What state is that, Jersey?

Pennsylvania. I had no problem with the fine (not the emissions crap) but the fees were insane and, I would term, illegal.

No doubt there s unfairness in taxes, even just property taxes. In CA, prop 13 prevents the kind of tax inflation you are talking about. But, since the taxes get locked in, you have a situation where two identical homes, located right next to each other, can be taxed at vastly different rates. The home owned by a well-off retired couple who bought their home 30 years ago gets taxed at the appraised value from 30 years ago. Meanwhile, the young couple just starting out who just bought the same house 2 years ago gets taxed at that rate.

The only fair tax I can think of is the one that I don't have to pay.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 18, 2017 03:32 AM (pvjTE)


Lots of the problems come out of bloated local and state governments requiring more money to do things they have no business doing. Schools (a large part of the property tax take) are total wastes of money. The costs keep going up while they should be going down. Meanwhile the quality of the education they offer is absolute shit - not worth a penny.

A good deal of the availability of these funds to squander arises out of the unfair application of property taxes, along with courts ruling willy-nilly to spend everyone's money however they see fit on that day.

Meanwhile the gas tax in PA is ridiculously high, at almost 60 cents/gallon ... regarding the need to fund roads and such, but at least that tax is actually more fair in that those who drive more pay more, generally.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 18, 2017 04:20 AM (rZ+mb)

836 "Lol. Not a peep out of Ace today about the Senate healthcare clusterfuck.

Ace is contractually bound by his funders to say nothing negative about the current Congress. Pathetic

Obamacare is here forever
"
-Posted by: Obamacare is here forever at July 18, 2017 03:51 AM (FEF+N)

Perhaps attention, long-term memory and reading comprehension aren't your strong suits.

I dig your shiny hat, though. It brings out the vapidity in your eyes.

It is a good look for you. It lets others know how far they should stay away without that old-fashioned, yellow Scotchlite vest.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 04:23 AM (Ckg4U)

837 There once was a man name of Lear
Who was much over rated, I fear
when a limerick he wrote,
he'd get grabbed by the scrote,
Because he was so fvkin queer?

Posted by: unsure if amy schumer at July 18, 2017 04:26 AM (Eynls)

838 "I was kidding. And I have insomnia, and I'm drunk. I'm sorry.
-Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 04:07 AM (/qEW2)

*meh* We tend to gather those around here. It is simultaneously a feature and a bug.

With simple text, the inflection, tone, cadence and intent is difficult to recognize.

*cheers!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 04:28 AM (Ckg4U)

839 >>>Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 04:23 AM (Ckg4U)

Morning thread *always* covers this. You'd think if ace was being paid off, he'd deter that. It's covered in the morning thread, which leaves ace to go for the more outré stories.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 04:34 AM (/qEW2)

840 I knew you were kidding, S&CB. Perhaps it is because I am also sleep-deprived, but I "got it".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 04:41 AM (Ckg4U)

841 Well good morning, everyone! Covfefe time.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 18, 2017 04:54 AM (Eynls)

842 Ace has taken-on the repeal part of the platform that the GOP has been harping upon for seven years.

What we all are trying to figure-out is the Built-In Mousetrap of "replace". I don't want to "replace" it with anything but Free Market forces that include:

-Selling Insurance across State lines. Multiple plans for the multitude of individuals, increasing competition and lowering costs.

-Health Savings Plans, untouchable by Federal forces. (States may react differently. We have the Tenth Amendment for a reason.)

-Tort Reform. Egregious, frivolous lawsuits against Doctors raises their insurance to outrageous levels. You lose? You pay. ("Caps" relegated to State levels. Again... Tenth Amendment.)

There are others, but I am too tired to think of them at the moment.

I've got my first of three jobs in fewer than four hours.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 04:55 AM (Ckg4U)

843 G'Mornin', Skip.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 05:12 AM (Ckg4U)

844 G' Mornin', unsure if deplorable. Enjoy your covfefe.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 05:13 AM (Ckg4U)

845 Just finished, Mr Slapw. Now to prepare myself to go downtown and join the nice but godless communists of the weird city.

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at July 18, 2017 05:17 AM (Eynls)

846 There are others, but I am too tired to think of them at the moment.

I've got my first of three jobs in fewer than four hours.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 04:55 AM (Ckg4U)

A fourth prong that needs to be attacked is fraud, both on the provider/doctor/clinic end as well as the user end. No more fines and probation, either. Stealing from the public purse needs mandatory jail time. I do believe that's the only way we're ever going to get rid of the magical 'the public's money is mine/there for the taking' thinking prevalent among those dependent upon the public trough at all levels, from the Congresscreep to the welfare queen.

Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 05:18 AM (84p6I)

847 I finally gathered up my courage yesterday evening and asked the president of my company if I can move and still work for the company. He said YES. (yay!)

Looks like I may be helping to keep Colorado purple. And Governor Cuomo will be happy that another Deplorable left this shithole, since he's publicly stated that conservatives are not welcome in NY.

After all my hand-wringing and stalling, the boss said "Absolutely, you can move anywhere within the US that you want, anytime you want."

I had no reason to be so nervous. We're a MOSTLY work-from-home company but we do have a physical office and I'm one of only 8 of us who pulls an occasional day (2-3 x a month) at the office. Someone has to be there when our messenger service comes twice a day, and to accept Fedex packages and the like. So I was afraid he'd say no.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at July 18, 2017 05:19 AM (ul9CR)

848 "Just finished, Mr Slapw. Now to prepare myself to go downtown and join the nice but godless communists of the weird city."
-Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at July 18, 2017 05:17 AM (Eynls)

Go get, 'em, Brother!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 05:20 AM (Ckg4U)

849 @848

Thank you,sir! I've gotten so used to it I shower before heading in. Later, 'rons'n'ettes

Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, officially styled moron at July 18, 2017 05:24 AM (Eynls)

850 "A fourth prong that needs to be attacked is fraud, both on the provider/doctor/clinic end as well as the user end. No more fines and probation, either.

Stealing from the public purse needs mandatory jail time. I do believe that's the only way we're ever going to get rid of the magical 'the public's money is mine/there for the taking' thinking prevalent among those dependent upon the public trough at all levels, from the Congresscreep to the welfare queen.
"

-Posted by: RickZ at July 18, 2017 05:18 AM (84p6I)

Yes. Defrauding the Taxpayer has to be held as one of the Worst Offenses in Our Land.

Then again, we don't allow the Rule of Law to permeate the top tiers of government.

We are currently "Re-Distributing" Law, which is unacceptable.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 05:30 AM (Ckg4U)

851 I knew you were kidding, S&CB. Perhaps it is because I am also sleep-deprived, but I "got it".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T)


*sigh* Thank you. I just assume that we all know that liberals are anal retentive assholes so if I write something worthy of Mary Cloggenstein, people would realize it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 05:31 AM (/qEW2)

852 -Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 18, 2017 05:31 AM (/qEW2)

Don't worry about it. It is merely a "one-dimensional" faux-pas.

I got it --and there was no need for an apology, but you were humble, Good Sir.

That's always a good thing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 05:39 AM (Ckg4U)

853 >>>I dig your shiny hat, though. It brings out the vapidity in your eyes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 18, 2017 04:23 AM (Ckg4U)

You sweet-talker, you.

Posted by: m at July 18, 2017 06:16 AM (VgThI)

854 Throwback Tequila Tuesday! *hic*

Posted by: Hillary at July 18, 2017 06:19 AM (bc2Lc)

855 Please don't be too hard on Mary. Years ago she was badly brain damaged in a fart tubing experiment that went wrong. It went so wrong that she is now engaged to "Bill Wynn"

*sigh*

My wife and I had such high hopes for her.

Posted by: Jonathon Elliot Richard Cloggenstein III at July 18, 2017 06:23 AM (sf2BM)

856 mornin'

Posted by: wing at July 18, 2017 06:26 AM (Ohl7S)

857
I didn't sleep well last night. I kept dreaming about the trauma I've experienced. This must be PTSD...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at July 18, 2017 06:45 AM (MQp/B)

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