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Game Of Thrones Is Bad -- And Bad For You. Otherwise Known As: Erstwhile Conservative Writer Is Actually A Nagging Little Leftist

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It doesn't matter what you think of Game of Thrones, because our betters (in this case a snot-nosed punk with ironic facial hair and a receding hairline) have decided that it is not fit for your consumption. Never mind that Game of Thrones is a TV SHOW! It's fiction. It is meant to be consumed not as an allegory, or a guidebook for future conduct, or even as wish-casting for the nerds he waxes insultingly about. It is meant to be consumed as a diversion, as a pause in our real lives, but this humorless toad just doesn't get it.

But the real problem with Game of Thrones is not that it is, like most American popular culture these days, fundamentally adolescent. It is that it is obscene. It is not just bad art; it is art that is bad and bad for you.

And this is how we got Trump. In this case a preening, pompous arrogant elite who claims to be Catholic but is amazingly quick to judge (didn't some guy named - ironically - Matthew warn you folks about that?) is telling us what is good for us and bad for us. But Americans are just a bit tired of being told what to do and what to think, even by "conservatives."
Popular culture in the English-speaking world is in the grips of a downward nerd-driven death spiral. Outside of the art-house theaters of our major cities it is almost impossible to find more than one semi-decent film a month that is not an adaptation of some decades-old picture book franchise about men in rubber costumes punching each other. The average video game player is more than 30 years old. The only book that most Americans between the ages of 23 and 40 seem to have read whose title does not begin with some variation of "Harry Potter and the” is a fable about talking animals that they were assigned in middle school. Things are bad.

Ah yes..."art-house theater." Because art must have a message, and only our elites are sufficiently aware to be able to interpret those messages. Bow down before your betters! Never mind that "popular culture" has always catered to the least-common denominator. And that's okay. I like raucous, escapist, thoroughly forgettable diversions as much as the next guy. I also have the intellectual capacity to discern between reality and entertainment, something that Matthew Walther clearly doesn't have.

Look, it doesn't matter whether you like Game of Thrones, and judging by the comments over the years many of you don't. But has anyone suggested that it has some evil intent, some nefarious message that will drive the coarsening of the culture? No, because most of us are sort of adult about our entertainments, and understand that it is fiction. And even more than that, the suggestion that it is "bad for you" is risible, because while many evil and manipulative and cruel characters are successful, it is also clear within the story that their behavior is not acceptable outside of the context of realpolitik. So I am not even sure what the hell this guy is talking about.

Actually, I do know exactly what he is talking about. He thinks he is smarter and better and more aware and better educated and more sophisticated than any of you.

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1 Not on my list of things to watch.

Posted by: HH at July 16, 2017 11:52 AM (mIJBI)

2 Wiener, wiener wiener, wiener wiener
One wiener, next to another wiener
Wiener, wiener wiener, wiener wiener
Two wieners alongside yet another wiener
Party, wiener party, wiener party, party party, wiener party, wiener party
Soft wieners, nice and soft, non-erect wieners!
Keep them flopping, flopping wieners, floppy floppy, dangle wieners, dangle dangle

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 11:55 AM (0mRoj)

3
Who is the whining li'l bitch? No linky...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 16, 2017 11:56 AM (pNxlR)

4 I have a hard time watching GoT, and actually skipped the last couple of seasons. But not because I thought it was objectively bad - it just isn't my style. No worries, different strokes and all of that.

But this article continues a theme for this week of narcissists having no hesitancy in telling us what to think and expecting to be congratulated for it. I don't watch the show, but I don't think any less of you if you like it - I thought that was what "tolerance" was all about.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at July 16, 2017 11:58 AM (2VN2E)

5
Don't forget -- Indiana Jones and the Quest for the Rhinestone-Encrusted Pedpan!

In theaters everywhere, November 2018!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (pNxlR)

6 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 16, 2017 11:56 AM (pNxlR)

Yeah....my HTML skills are a bit...um...shitty.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (wYseH)

7 Yeah, that whole "judgemntal thing."

You MUST not judge. I've even have friends who are so called conservatives tell me this.

If we did not judge, murder would be OK.

If we did not judge, rape would be OK.

If we did not judge, assault would be OK.

If we did not judge, sex with children would be OK.

What they're really saying is "I retain the right to judge, but YOU don't."

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (aT+Bx)

8 I quit reading the books after the first one because I knew that every character would be screwed over. I'm not going to waste my time reading depressing fiction when reality continues to be depressing enough. And yes I got my fill of Humans being sick and evil just by reading Iris Chang's The Rape of Nanking.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (Wja0c)

9 oh yes, the "art house cinema" milieu.

Where literally every movie teaches you that all life is just wall-to-wall misery and buttsex, until you die. Probably from the buttsex.

Classy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:00 PM (hcyUh)

10
But he's right.

GoT is trash; poison for your heart and mind.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 12:00 PM (8gTsX)

11 I thought Harrison Ford's next Indiana Adventure had been pushed back to 2020?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:01 PM (Wja0c)

12 That's how you get more Thrones - HBO has confirmed they're developing spin off series.

Posted by: josephistan at July 16, 2017 12:02 PM (ANIFC)

13 Can't comment on Game of Thrones. But this article writer should read some C.S. Lewis and take to heart the warnings that humorless scolds who torment people for their own good are the most evil of oppressors.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 16, 2017 12:03 PM (8qFZP)

14 11 I thought Harrison Ford's next Indiana Adventure had been pushed back to 2020?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:01 PM (Wja0c)

They might want to rethink that. Ford is no spring chicken, plus his flying skills seem to be waning.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 16, 2017 12:03 PM (I8zsv)

15 I often wonder how many terrible columns are written because the writer has a deadline but no good column ideas.

Posted by: David J at July 16, 2017 12:03 PM (VBQ/5)

16 I often wonder how many terrible columns are written because the writer has a deadline but no good column ideas.
Posted by: David J at July 16, 2017 12:03 PM (VBQ/5)

Worked for Andy Rooney.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 16, 2017 12:04 PM (I8zsv)

17 7 Yeah, that whole "judgemntal thing."

You MUST not judge. I've even have friends who are so called conservatives tell me this.

If we did not judge, murder would be OK.

If we did not judge, rape would be OK.

If we did not judge, assault would be OK.

If we did not judge, sex with children would be OK.

What they're really saying is "I retain the right to judge, but YOU don't."

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (aT+Bx)

I'm no theologian, but my understanding of "do not judge" means just that - we don't have the authority to render the final verdict on someone, only God does. It doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't call out wrongdoing.

Posted by: josephistan at July 16, 2017 12:04 PM (ANIFC)

18 Speaking of Harrison Ford movies... perhaps a better title for the Blade Runner sequel should be "Do Replicants Pee?"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:04 PM (Wja0c)

19 Let me check my movie log...*flip flip*...yeah, last opening movie I saw was in 1995-Braveheart. I was forced to attend by SIL and Under Wife.

If I have to pay to view a Hollyweird movie it ain't happening.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 16, 2017 12:05 PM (mcI77)

20 GoT is trash; poison for your heart and mind.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 12:00 PM (8gTsX)

No. He is wrong.

I can protect my mind and my heart quite well without being preached to by the pompous nannies of the elite.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:05 PM (wYseH)

21 What people choose to watch--or listen to or read--is up to them and really none of my business. But for those of us who really aren't into this kind of thing --or who NEVER got into or cared about Star Wars--it's kind of depressing that every one else is up to speed on this and we're not.

I think that's what's at the root of the article you quoted from. This guy doesn't get ( or like me, doesn't WANT to get) Game of Thrones and is scorched because that's all it seems everyone else wants to talk about.

And he is right about every other fucking movie being about super heroes in "rubber costumes."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:07 PM (7uYFy)

22 My family watched it; I watched an episode or two and got bored. Same thing with Walking Dead.

My attitude is miss me with wizards, zombies, and all manner of similar crap.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 16, 2017 12:08 PM (SRKgf)

23 What they're really saying is "I retain the right to judge, but YOU don't."

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (aT+Bx)

True. But the issue is not that there is behavior in GOT that is vile and immoral. Nobody is suggesting that. What this turd is suggesting is that we are too stupid to see it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:08 PM (wYseH)

24 I have no problem with soft-core soap operas, especially the naked lady parts, but I don't get HBO, so......

Posted by: Javems at July 16, 2017 12:08 PM (yOqwj)

25 18 Speaking of Harrison Ford movies... perhaps a better title for the Blade Runner sequel should be "Do Replicants Pee?"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:04 PM (Wja0c)

I thought that Star Wars Episode VII should have been called "The Force Awakens 2 or 3 Times a Night to Use the Bathroom"

Posted by: josephistan at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (ANIFC)

26
You MUST not judge. I've even have friends who are so called conservatives tell me this.

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (aT+Bx)


'So-called conservative' is correct. This is at the heart of leftism right now. Everything must be mainstreamed and accepted without reservations, even the most boorish, rude, and unacceptable behavior imaginable.

*You* will be called to fault for rejecting this boorish, rude, and unacceptable behavior.

Recently I was in conversation with someone on the aspie 'spectrum'. In the middle of what I was saying he/she turned her back on me and walked away. I automatically/reflexively gave him/her the finger and walked away myself, muttering about rudeness. My actions were caught by others though.

I just don't care anymore. I will continue to judge till my dying breath.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (EgwCt)

27 7 Yeah, that whole "judgemntal thing."

You MUST not judge. I've even have friends who are so called conservatives tell me this.

If we did not judge, murder would be OK.

If we did not judge, rape would be OK.

If we did not judge, assault would be OK.

If we did not judge, sex with children would be OK.

What they're really saying is "I retain the right to judge, but YOU don't."



Rendering judgment is what adults do.

It's what everyone is asked to do in every election.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (SRKgf)

28 GOT puts money in the pocket of a hate-filled Santa Fe leftist revenge-porn author, but I repeat myself three times.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (c1VpD)

29 There are men in GoT doing bad things, therefore it should be banned.

Posted by: Feminists at July 16, 2017 12:11 PM (aZq03)

30 I can protect my mind and my heart quite well without being preached to by the pompous nannies of the elite.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:05 PM (wYseH)

I agree. I don't want to put words in Soothsayer's mouth, so I won't, but one strongly implicated corollary to the "[xyz piece of pop-culture] is trash" angle is the implication that those who watch it are weak minded simpletons who don't understand the difference between "real" and "fake".

You know, like leftists. But I digress.

Trash people watch trash and continue to be trashy. Normal people watch trash and are amused by the trashiness, but continue to be normal.

So all it boils down to is saying "trash people are trashy." Which ain't much to go on for building an ethos.

Just my two cents. Or whatever the smallest unit of currency in Westeros is.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:11 PM (hcyUh)

31 The other thing that chaffs me about Game of Thrones and things of that ilk is that they seem to have replaced the "historical epic" in film.
Where are the Bravehearts and Gladiators , often based (alas, somewhat loosely) on actual history?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:12 PM (7uYFy)

32 Liberal nannies: Want to save us from evil GMOs, and artificial flavorings that will addict us created by Nestle and Nabisco and also force us to bike or walk to a train station for our good and that of GAIA.

Conservative nannies: Want to save us from the lewd and obscene aspects of popular culture and the dangers of drugs and in some cases evil GMOs and artificial flavorings and such.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 16, 2017 12:12 PM (8qFZP)

33 Well, GoT does largely suck. At least, it's the most overrated show I've seen. My wife pointed out that, really, Tyrian is just a very short Gregory House.

Most of the "shocking" stuff is actually better done in I, Claudius. Admittedly with much lower visual quality, but exactly how much does on place on that? The dialogue, and the performances are much weaker. Not one is at the level of LIvia, Antonia, Tiberius, or Caligula.

I'll also quote a friend of mine (while watching an episode): "Is anyone in this country actually good at his job?"

I will grant that Dragon Girl does look damn good naked.

Threat to our civilization? No. Meh? Yes.

Posted by: George LeS at July 16, 2017 12:14 PM (+TcCF)

34 Judging is just human nature. I wrote a letter to a magazine asking them to cancel my subscription yesterday. I refuse to support or be pc about things I disagree with. I will not participate or applaud what some people want to deem normal.

Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 12:14 PM (gDoff)

35 I refused to watch this crap after they decided it to include a shot of W's head on a pike.

Screw the show and screw HBO.

Posted by: Sjg at July 16, 2017 12:14 PM (gDSJf)

36 29
There are men in GoT doing bad things, therefore it should be banned.

Posted by: Feminists


FIFY

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:15 PM (LAe3v)

37 Let me check my movie log...*flip flip*...yeah, last
opening movie I saw was in 1995-Braveheart. I was forced to attend by
SIL and Under Wife.



If I have to pay to view a Hollyweird movie it ain't happening.



Posted by: Under Fire at July 16, 2017 12:05 PM (mcI77)

Agreed, my last movie at a theater was E.T.

Posted by: MAC SOG at July 16, 2017 12:16 PM (QPdNE)

38 Well, I've never seen Game of Thrones, so I guess that makes me better than you.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 12:16 PM (sdi6R)

39 But the issue is not that there is behavior in GOT that is vile and immoral. Nobody is suggesting that. What this turd is suggesting is that we are too stupid to see it.
--

I looked at it from the point that the guy in question was making a judgement in terms of GOT, and then expecting all of us to defer to his judgement and not make our own.

"Here's my Important Opinion, you must defer to it."


/another example of gaslighting. My reality MUST be your reality.

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 12:16 PM (aT+Bx)

40 All right, I'll be the contrarian here. I read the linked article.

I think he's right. I don't think watching stuff like that would be good for my soul. Others can decide for themselves, just like the author of the article did.

But nowhere in the article did I see him tell people they should not be watching it. He says he thought about it and decided it was endangering his own immortal soul. He doesn't say "you people who watch it must stop now."

I think he just wants to make people think. You can think about it, and not agree with him. But that doesn't mean you should conclude that he's trying to tell you what to do. Because I don't believe he is.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:17 PM (sBOL1)

41 Yeah, the guy's a pompous douche. I can't actually aruge with the notion GoT is implausibly, absurdly immoral: I think the old Crusaders would have teamed up with Saladin to fight all of Westeros, except maybe the Starks (and even they would have to convert to a real religion).

Meanwhile, I think the backlash may be because people keep praising the writing and world building of GoT Season 6. It's as convincing as praising Playboy for the articles.

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=37880

Posted by: trev006 at July 16, 2017 12:18 PM (IbaEw)

42 Rendering judgment is what adults do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (SRKgf)

Agreed. But that judgement is designed to guide one's own behavior, not cast aspersions on others.

You didn't like GOT and stopped watching after a few hours.

That's your prerogative.

But what you didn't do is criticize my choice to watch it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:18 PM (wYseH)

43 I'm a real latecomer to GoT, and since I don't get HBO, I get it via Netflix. It's a lot better than the endless comic book movies, and there's actually time to develop a plot. That, and Tyrion has some dialogue that doesn't sound like it was written by a 9-year old.

Sure, it's lurid and vulgar and violent. I'll live. Is it indicative of the low state of modern culture, which really is low? Maybe, but it also has strong points.

In short, feel free to condemn it, but I don't care what you think, I care what I think. As long as you aren't trying to take away my choices, you're entitled to your opinion.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:18 PM (LAe3v)

44 16 I often wonder how many terrible columns are written because the writer has a deadline but no good column ideas.
Posted by: David J at July 16, 2017 12:03 PM (VBQ/5)

Worked for Andy Rooney.


"Did you ever wonder about..." (looks around desktop) "...staplers?"

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 16, 2017 12:18 PM (7oUUT)

45 Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:17 PM
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You read the article? Wow.

Way to get ahead of the bell shaped curve!

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (aT+Bx)

46 Rendering judgment is what adults do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (SRKgf)

Agreed. But that judgement is designed to guide one's own behavior, not cast aspersions on others.

You didn't like GOT and stopped watching after a few hours.

That's your prerogative.

But what you didn't do is criticize my choice to watch it.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:18 PM (wYseH)

BINGO!

Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (gDoff)

47 Saw a couple of minutes of GoT last year, what a bloodbath ( and I'm a avide war movie guy.)

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (9g/6M)

48 GoT Predictions:

Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion are all Taergaryens.
Tyrion's mom fucked a Taergaryen, which is why Tywin said: "you're no son of mine." Gives a new perspective on Tywin.

Dany, Jon and Tyrion will ride the three dragons to slay the White Walkers, because they're Taergaryens.

Jamie kills Cersei fulfilling the witch's prophecy that she'll get killed by her younger brother. She always thought it meant Tyrion.

Dany winds up on the Iron Throne, but who's her consort. I'm going with Ser Friend Zone, because I like the idea of an old guy getting young trim.

Peter Baylesh falls off the Ladder of Chaos.

Sansa gets the North. With Jon, who's actually only some kind of cousin.

Tyrion is the adviser, and it's a golden age for the Seven Kingdoms.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (pV/54)

49 Perversion, pain, and death and soulessness is bad for you.

I don't want to censor you, but filling your head with crap like this means that at some point in your life, you will vomit some of it up into your reality.

The Evil One is subtle and often very sophisticated.

Posted by: True the Note at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (SJ184)

50 I think he just wants to make people think. You can think about it, and
not agree with him. But that doesn't mean you should conclude that
he's trying to tell you what to do. Because I don't believe he is.


You hush with your facts and tolerance and such.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:21 PM (LAe3v)

51 You know what Game of Thrones really needs?

Aliens.

or Zombies.

Zombie Aliens.

Yeah...

Awesome.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:21 PM (hcyUh)

52 But this is the best part! Right before King Joffrey gets poisoned, everyone flops their wieners all over his face!

Posted by: George R.R.R.R.R. Martin at July 16, 2017 12:22 PM (0mRoj)

53 So - am I a retard for not knowing what Game of Thrones is?

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 12:22 PM (Sfs6o)

54 Way to get ahead of the bell shaped curve!
Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (aT+Bx)
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The bluebell-shaped curve, you mean.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:22 PM (sBOL1)

55 51
You know what Game of Thrones really needs?



Aliens.



or Zombies.



Zombie Aliens.



Yeah...



Awesome.


Oh, okay, we'll put on a damn glass helmet. Happy?

Posted by: White Walkers at July 16, 2017 12:22 PM (LAe3v)

56 But that doesn't mean you should conclude that he's trying to tell you what to do. Because I don't believe he is.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:17 PM (sBOL1)

I think his subtext is clear. And the phrase "bad for you" makes it plain.

He should have said, "It is not just bad art; it is art that I think is bad and bad for me."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:22 PM (wYseH)

57 *checks the news*

Eleven months later, no new news on bringing George R.R. Martin's Wild Card series to TV.

Wonder if the writers for the TV series realized how much they would have to alter to get around all the Regan and Quayle bashing in the stories?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:23 PM (Wja0c)

58 GoT Predictions:

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (pV/54)

The White Walkers win, and the last scene is their chief killing John Snow.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:25 PM (wYseH)

59 I think his subtext is clear. And the phrase "bad for you" makes it plain.

He should have said, "It is not just bad art; it is art that I think is bad and bad for me."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:22 PM (wYseH)

--------------

It's an opinion piece. I think the subtext "I think" is built in.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:25 PM (sBOL1)

60 Horses have one thing that no other means of transportation does!

Posted by: George R.R.R.R.R. Martin at July 16, 2017 12:25 PM (0mRoj)

61 I believe the full Biblical quote is:

"Judge not, lest ye be judged."

In other words, a human may judge but at the same time must be ready to put his own life on the scale for God to judge.

It is precisely the same as Jesus saying:

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

--The Anti-Hypocrisy/Corrupt Judiciary Act of 1400 B.C., As Amended 32 A.D.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 16, 2017 12:25 PM (l+IQE)

62 I started reading the first book, couldn't get into it, and decided to read up on the Wars of the Roses instead.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 16, 2017 12:25 PM (x3uSY)

63 My mom used to say "garbage in, garbage out".

Years later, I understand programmers used the same phrase to describe buggy code.

Seems appropriate concerning where the media/entertainment industry has taken us.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 16, 2017 12:26 PM (z79tQ)

64 Just gonna sit this one out.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2017 12:26 PM (oVJmc)

65
Wiener, wiener wiener, wiener wiener

Chicken deener!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 12:27 PM (IqV8l)

66 Everybody has to write something, I guess. I don't know if there were similar columns about The Sopranos, but I suspect there were.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 12:27 PM (jHrzU)

67 54 Way to get ahead of the bell shaped curve!
Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (aT+Bx)
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The bluebell-shaped curve, you mean.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:22 PM (sBOL1)

******

Now that isclever, if shameless self promotion.
Well played Bluebell!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2017 12:27 PM (0tfLf)

68 63 My mom used to say "garbage in, garbage out".

Years later, I understand programmers used the same phrase to describe buggy code.

Seems appropriate concerning where the media/entertainment industry has taken us.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 16, 2017 12:26 PM (z79tQ)

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Some of us aspiring writers for the entertainment industry are very much aware of the crap floating around.

Unfortunately, a lot of that crap sells.

Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:28 PM (s5Kql)

69 I liked the Trailer Park Boys (before Netflix got their nasty claws on it).

Should I be worried about my Immortal Soul?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:28 PM (hcyUh)

70 Lighten up Francis. It's good entertainment.

It's medieval history and more put in a blender. With a fantasy element. The "magic" isn't over-used.

It's a brutal place because their is no Christianity. I believe that our Medieval world was quite brutal, in part because Christianity wasn't always practiced faithfully.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 12:28 PM (pV/54)

71 58 GoT Predictions:

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 12:20 PM (pV/54)

The White Walkers win, and the last scene is their chief killing John Snow.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:25 PM (wYseH)

A company of Adeptus Astartes arrive through a time portal, lay waste to everyone and claim Westeros for the Emperor.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:29 PM (0mRoj)

72 Walther is old school new school Catholic. Bishop Sheen for the 21st century, morality wise, but socialist and authoritarian politically. He thinks Franco's Spain was about right.

Posted by: Homer J. at July 16, 2017 12:29 PM (cCsPW)

73 65 BC jr

Thread wiener!

Posted by: ibguy at July 16, 2017 12:29 PM (vUcdz)

74 Sorry, CBD, but on this we are going to disagree. The article clearly states what so many of us watching the decline of culture know--exposing yourself to the worst excesses of rot will change your ability to function in a moral and ethical manner, and even if, as you claim, you can rise above all of that and remain untouched, is there really a purpose to indulging the worst of the excesses?

You claim it is for entertainment, but in truth it is simply lascivious indulgence, the equivalent of eating twinkies and drinking Maddog 2020. You know damned well it isn't good for you, but you choose it anyway.

Nothing this fellow said prevents you from indulging, but he tweaked a nerve because you know it's crap. If it didn't matter to you, then you wouldn't be so ticked off by him calling you out.

Go ahead and watch--nobody is preventing you. But don't pretend that he is not entitiled to his opinion, which is founded in some objective truth.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 16, 2017 12:29 PM (NXsWM)

75 Game of Thrones?

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 16, 2017 12:29 PM (S6Pax)

76 Just gonna sit this one out.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2017 12:26 PM

My words are a whisper, your deafness a shout

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 12:29 PM (9g/6M)

77 Lena Dunham's Girls of Thrones.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2017 12:29 PM (oVJmc)

78 SMFH, Fifty Shades of Cr@p obviously sold...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:30 PM (Wja0c)

79 But what you didn't do is criticize my choice to watch it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:18 PM (wYseH)



Of course not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 16, 2017 12:30 PM (SRKgf)

80 Game of Thrones doesn't appeal to me; conspiracy, plots, betrayal, court intrigue, secret agents, double agents; nope, not interested.


Say, did you see the news where Trump the Younger got caught with his hands in a Russian Honey Pot? Scandalous.

What?

Posted by: Dumon R. Holding at July 16, 2017 12:30 PM (m9X4Y)

81 My mom used to say "garbage in, garbage out".


Heh, my mom too. She was studying programing in the 60's. She also called tv the boob tube. For you youngins, that means it makes you a boob and not in the good moron way.

Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 12:31 PM (gDoff)

82 78 SMFH, Fifty Shades of Cr@p obviously sold...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:30 PM (Wja0c)

Because every soccer mom's secret fantasy is apparently getting slapped around by a young, studly billionaire.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:31 PM (0mRoj)

83 All I know is that Trump will not be fangirling the GoT stars and bragging about binging and advanced copy of the latest season.

As Ace has pointed out, the Left's "muh showz" stuff over GoT, etc. is annoying. Watch, don't watch, just resist the whole cultural analysis/dissection of each episode through a feminists/LGBT/race-obsessed teen girl and liken it to current events that the Amanda Marcottes of the world tirelessly inflict on us.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2017 12:31 PM (NOIQH)

84 Insomniac, lets the cross the meme streams. Rand al-Thor with the Aes Sedai vs the White Walkers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:31 PM (Wja0c)

85 78 SMFH, Fifty Shades of Cr@p obviously sold...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:30 PM (Wja0c)

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Yep.

Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:31 PM (s5Kql)

86 I had a similar reaction on about the fourth or fifth season.

It seems awful. OTOH, watching four seasons of anything is a lot for me these days.

It didn't occur to me to go piss in other people's Cheerios about it. I actually bought a friend a shirt ("In Memoriam") which had stick figure representations of all the ways characters had died--because SHE loves the show so much.

I dunno. Art can have an effect but I don't see GoT mainstreaming incest, patricide, child burning, etc. I think if one wished to improve the state of art, one would best do it by making better art, not by chiding people for what they do like.

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (CcUfv)

87 I too feel conflicted when viewing the sex and swordplay stew that is Game of Thrones.

It's like when I'm sitting in the bleachers at the Death Arena with my turkey leg and ale watching the bear-baiting and dwarf vs. badger gladiatorial games.

I ask myself, is this really a good use of my time?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (QGoUX)

88 Indiana Jones and the Metamucil Shortage.

No shit. Coming soon to theaters.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (89T5c)

89 Because every soccer mom's secret fantasy is apparently getting slapped around by a young, studly billionaire.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:31 PM (0mRoj)

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Heh.

Who knew?

Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (s5Kql)

90 Now that isclever, if shameless self promotion.
Well played Bluebell!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2017 12:27 PM (0tfLf)
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Well, thank you, but that really isn't self-promotion. Because most of the time I find myself on the idiotic ding-bat part of the curve.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (sBOL1)

91 My mom used to say "garbage in, garbage out".


Heh, my mom too. She was studying programing in the 60's. She also called tv the boob tube. For you youngins, that means it makes you a boob and not in the good moron way.

Posted by: Infidel


My Mom just used to tell me to take the garbage out. She was judgemental like that. Didn't like garbage in the house. It belonged in the trash can.

Weird.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:33 PM (S6Pax)

92 De gustibus non disputandem.

Except that your gustibus sucks and mine is awesome.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:33 PM (hcyUh)

93 Musical chairs played with toilets.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 12:34 PM (IqV8l)

94 I know nothing about Game of Thrones other than what I have been told. But are we really going so far with this screw-the-elites posture that any criticism of pop culture must be condemned as mere snobbery?

Maybe it's just a matter of tone.

BTW, I missed the part in the critic's column that stated or even suggested that Game of Thrones should be banned.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 12:34 PM (0jtPF)

95 Indiana Jones and the Metamucil Shortage.

No shit. Coming soon to theaters.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


Okay, that made me laugh real hard.

Especially......No shit.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:34 PM (S6Pax)

96 Nothing this fellow said prevents you from indulging, but he tweaked a
nerve because you know it's crap. If it didn't matter to you, then you
wouldn't be so ticked off by him calling you out.


Disagree. It doesn't matter to me. It's mindless entertainment. It affects my life not a whit.

However, since you seem to want a serious discussion (**rolls eyes**), the larger issue is where (if) we draw a line? Pornography? ISIS snuff videos. Lena Dunham?

There are people out there who are susceptible to bad messages, but they're also legal adults. Does government ever have a role?

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (LAe3v)

97 31 The other thing that chaffs me about Game of Thrones and things of that ilk is that they seem to have replaced the "historical epic" in film.
Where are the Bravehearts and Gladiators , often based (alas, somewhat loosely) on actual history?
Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:12 PM (7uYFy)


This right there. There is plenty of adventure, heroism, villainy, intrigue, lust, and violence in actual history without having to make it up.

We often look down our noses at people who watch soap operas. My (completely uninformed) opinion is that Game of Thrones is basically a soap opera, with nudity and graphic violence.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (sdi6R)

98 blaster

** I don't know if there were similar columns about The Sopranos, but I suspect there were. **

There were. I remember them. Although "The Sopranos" really signalled the start of the Muh Showz! thing people are talking about.

Prior to that, one (in the media) would more sheepishly announce (if at all) a devotion to a television program.

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (CcUfv)

99 Indiana Jones and the Metamucil Shortage.



No shit. Coming soon to theaters.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


It'll be flowing in the aisles....

So run for the hills!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (Wja0c)

100 I'm not big on GoT but let's face it, people have been doing horrible shit to other people for thousands of years. I don't necessarily want to see it all the time as entertainment, but man's inhumanity to man is as old as humanity itself, and still goes on in much of the world. I guess my point, to the extent I have one, is that's it's not all that shocking in the broader context of the fucked up world we live in.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (0mRoj)

101 How about watching snuff films?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 12:36 PM (IqV8l)

102 I believe the full Biblical quote is:
"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
In other words, a human may judge but at the same time must be ready to put his own life on the scale for God to judge.
It is precisely the same as Jesus saying:
"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
--The Anti-Hypocrisy/Corrupt Judiciary Act of 1400 B.C., As Amended 32 A.D.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 16, 2017 12:25 PM (l+IQE)


It also was in the context of making a life or death decision as to possibly ending someones life with the throwing of a stone. Not necessarily on other minor offenses.

I don't believe I could ever easily serve on a jury where the death penalty was possible for this reason. I'd want justice served, sure.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 12:36 PM (EgwCt)

103 Well, thank you, but that really isn't self-promotion. Because most of the time I find myself on the idiotic ding-bat part of the curve.
Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (sBOL1)

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Not even if you tried, sweetie.

Lena Dunham, otoh, is a fucking dingbat.

Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:37 PM (s5Kql)

104 In other news, the next Doctor on Doctor Who will be...











A woman.

Of course, all the right sort of people are over the moon about it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 16, 2017 12:37 PM (17QyB)

105 Indiana Jones and father in a small plane:

Senior: You know how to fly?

Indiana: Fly? Yes!
*pulls a lever*
Golf? No!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 16, 2017 12:37 PM (rnAwa)

106 89 Because every soccer mom's secret fantasy is apparently getting slapped around by a young, studly billionaire.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:31 PM (0mRoj)

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Heh.

Who knew?
Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (s5Kql)

Right? I can't cover the young part anymore, and forget about being a billionaire, but my pimp hand is still pretty strong. Maybe I've still got a shot.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:37 PM (0mRoj)

107 Well, considering:

How dumb was John Snow to run in and attack Ramsey's army by himself? How many of his men did he kill by that move?

And his sister didn't tell him about the knights of the Vale?

And nobody gave Wun Wun armor and a helmet with a visor?

The problem I have with Game of Thrones isn't that it's immoral. For all the production beauty and grandiosity, if you think about the choices the characters make, they're really dumb. And they all deserve to die, accordingly.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at July 16, 2017 12:38 PM (1pq54)

108 101 How about watching snuff films?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 12:36 PM (IqV8l)

How do you make a feature length film about dipping Copenhagen?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:38 PM (0mRoj)

109 ** We often look down our noses at people who watch soap operas. My (completely uninformed) opinion is that Game of Thrones is basically a soap opera, with nudity and graphic violence. **

That's an argument I've heard since I can remember people arguing against TV. "It's just a soap opera plus..."

So, what serial or movie series ISN'T a soap opera? Isn't "Star Wars" just a soap opera with light sabers? Isn't the MCU just a soap opera with super powers? What about the critically acclaimed "I, Claudius"? Wasn't that just a soap opera with togas?

Saying "it's just a soap opera" is a lazy way to demean a form of entertainment, as far as I can tell.

Maybe don't look down on people who watch soap opera?

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 12:38 PM (CcUfv)

110 Dr. Who going female was about the only thing Moffat hadn't done to the franchise. Well except make the Doctor Jar Jar Binks.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM (Wja0c)

111 How about watching snuff films?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 12:36 PM (IqV8l)

I'll defer to your expertise.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM (wYseH)

112 "The only book that most Americans between the ages of 23 and 40 seem to
have read whose title does not begin with some variation of 'Harry
Potter and the' is a fable about talking animals that they were assigned
in middle school. Things are bad."


That book should have been "Animal Farm."

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM (Id9+8)

113 Operas are soap operas with singing and no soap.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM (0mRoj)

114 Prior to that, one (in the media) would more sheepishly announce (if at all) a devotion to a television program.

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (CcUfv)

You too young to remember Dallas? Gawd I hated that show.

Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 12:40 PM (gDoff)

115 The problem I have with Game of Thrones isn't that
it's immoral. For all the production beauty and grandiosity, if you
think about the choices the characters make, they're really dumb. And
they all deserve to die, accordingly.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman


I read a lot of history. Most of it is a catalogue of dumb choices.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:40 PM (LAe3v)

116 "Well what do you expect in an opera? A happy ending?" - Bugs Bunny, critic.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:40 PM (Wja0c)

117 I read a lot of history. Most of it is a catalogue of dumb choices.
Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:40 PM (LAe3v)

Just so. World War I anybody?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:41 PM (0mRoj)

118 Never watched an episode of the thing, but when he writes "We really are, emotionally speaking, a nation of teenagers albeit horny ones with generous allowances" I can't say I disagree with him.

Posted by: V the K at July 16, 2017 12:41 PM (jn7FC)

119 Right? I can't cover the young part anymore, and forget about being a billionaire, but my pimp hand is still pretty strong. Maybe I've still got a shot.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:37 PM (0mRoj)

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LOL!

No shortage of bitches needing a strong pimp hand, that's for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtOPhcn0Ie4

Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:42 PM (s5Kql)

120
In other news, the next Doctor on Doctor Who will be...

A woman.


The Two Ranis

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 12:42 PM (IqV8l)

121 Maybe don't look down on people who watch soap opera?

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 12:38 PM (CcUfv)

One of the reasons I enjoy GoT is the acting, which I find quite good...certainly better than most of the other stuff I watch.

But even if the acting were uniformly awful, I think I might enjoy it for other reasons.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 12:42 PM (wYseH)

122 >>How about watching snuff films?

"Yes, how about that, or at least a close approximation!!?"
-- Eli Roth

Posted by: Lizzy at July 16, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)

123 We often look down our noses at people who watch soap operas. My (completely uninformed) opinion is that Game of Thrones is basically a soap opera, with nudity and graphic violence.
Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (sdi6R)

Oh it definitely is. I even call refer to it as "my stories" the way old ladies call soap operas. I just couldn't watch a series or movie that's just a drama. It would bore me. There has to be a hook - a soap set in a world of swords & shit, or a zombie apocalypse - to get me to watch it. Regular people with regular problems? That's my life, why would I watch it on TV?

Posted by: josephistan at July 16, 2017 12:42 PM (ANIFC)

124 113 Operas are soap operas with singing and no soap.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM (0mRoj)

Imagine if they advertised something else heavily during those hours in the dawn of the TV era?

We'd be ragging on "Cereal Operas", or "Motor Oil Operas", or whatever, and the phrase "Soap Opera" would sound just as dumb to our ears as either of those other two.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:43 PM (hcyUh)

125 We're taking a long car trip next week and we have collections of old radio program episodes A Johnny Dollar and Dragnet ready to listen to along the way. That's about my speed.

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 12:43 PM (Sfs6o)

126 This right there. There is plenty of adventure, heroism, villainy, intrigue, lust, and violence in actual history without having to make it up.

We often look down our noses at people who watch soap operas. My (completely uninformed) opinion is that Game of Thrones is basically a soap opera, with nudity and graphic violence.
Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 12:35 PM (sdi6R)

Exactly. But actual history is boring, man. There was always plenty of intrigue, violence and, yes, boobs in history but because schools do such a shit job of teaching the subject, audiences today have an knee-jerk aversion to it and prefer made up shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:43 PM (7uYFy)

127 You too young to remember Dallas? Gawd I hated that show.
Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 12:40 PM (gDoff)

Every generation thinks they invented pop culture.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 16, 2017 12:43 PM (NXsWM)

128 >>>I read a lot of history. Most of it is a catalogue of dumb choices.


Word.



Posted by: George Custer, Prodigiously Perforated at July 16, 2017 12:43 PM (ppaKI)

129 There are people out there who are susceptible to bad messages, but they're also legal adults. Does government ever have a role?
Posted by: pep

In this country, if the government if of the people, by the people and for the people, then I guess there is some role the government should play. And that's been an argument ever since mass entertainment appeared, and obviously before that.
Books, you can't read that!
The Catholic Church even tried to control who read The Bible, before Gutenberg's press was working.
And they were right in their own narrow interpretation. Because more people reading The Bible partly led to the Protestant Reformation.

The want to control the movies, radio (fairness doctrine), TV (FCC regulations), the Internet (Net Neutrality), and on, and on.

Culture, books, entertainment are a form of nourishment for the spirit, just like food is nourishment for the body.
Eat bad food, get bad nourishment, and you get sick, or your health is poor, or you are over weight.

Your life, your choice.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (S6Pax)

130 Exactly. But actual history is boring, man. There was always plenty of intrigue, violence and, yes, boobs in history but because schools do such a shit job of teaching the subject, audiences today have an knee-jerk aversion to it and prefer made up shit.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:43 PM (7uYFy)

Real history isn't boring, for the reasons you just described, it just needs better story tellers.

Posted by: josephistan at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (ANIFC)

131 Indiana Jones and The, Uh, What Was That Thing Again?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (oVJmc)

132 No shortage of bitches needing a strong pimp hand, that's for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtOPhcn0Ie4
Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:42 PM (s5Kql)

Eddie Griffin was funny as hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (0mRoj)

133
"We really are, emotionally speaking, a nation of teenagers albeit horny ones with generous allowances"

When will the money run out?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (IqV8l)

134 Operas are soap operas with singing and no soap.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM (0mRoj)
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I never did understand why soap operas were so named. I get the soap part, because the commercials were mainly for laundry detergent, but the opera part? Operas have no spoken words, only singing. Why not just call them soap dramas? Soap tragedies?

I'll just file that under "questions to which I will never know the answer, most probably."

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (sBOL1)

135

"Judge not, lest ye be judged."

Is certainly 180 degrees of separation from 'kill the infidel wherever you find him'. In one religion the admonishment for making life and death decisions should be in God's hands, in the other 'religion' men are left to decide.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 12:45 PM (EgwCt)

136 Imagine if they advertised something else heavily during those hours in the dawn of the TV era?



We'd be ragging on "Cereal Operas", or "Motor Oil Operas", or
whatever, and the phrase "Soap Opera" would sound just as dumb to our
ears as either of those other two.


If the dawn ofthe TV era came today, we'd be speaking of "Boner Pill and Feminine Hygiene Product Operas".

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:45 PM (LAe3v)

137 Just so. World War I anybody?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:41 PM (0mRoj)

Still dealing with the after effects of that shit show 100 years, another World War, the rise and fall of Communism and several genocides later.....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:45 PM (7uYFy)

138 Wasn't that just a soap opera with togas?

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TOGA PARTY!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1X1uOUBZOs

Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:45 PM (s5Kql)

139 If the dawn ofthe TV era came today, we'd be speaking of "Boner Pill and Feminine Hygiene Product Operas".
Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:45 PM (LAe3v)

"I gotta get home in time to see my Boners!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:46 PM (hcyUh)

140 Bluebell, want another head scratcher. Why are pants called a pair anyway.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:46 PM (Wja0c)

141 Just so. World War I anybody?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:41 PM (0mRoj)

Still dealing with the after effects of that shit show 100 years, another World War, the rise and fall of Communism and several genocides later.....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:45 PM (7uYFy)

I forgot to add, why not a movie or a television miniseries about THAT?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 12:46 PM (7uYFy)

142 Please allow me to remind you that "he (Trump - ed.) could have undermined the messaging so much that he can acutally control exactly what people think. And that is our job."

Thank you.

Posted by: Mika at July 16, 2017 12:46 PM (DMUuz)

143 Your life, your choice.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America


Except that your bad choices also affect society as a whole. That's why I'm not a radical libertarian.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:47 PM (LAe3v)

144 How about watching snuff films?

They don't always work out that well.

Posted by: David Carradine at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (gDoff)

145 113 Operas are soap operas with singing and no soap.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM (0mRoj)


That's true. The term "soap opera" was coined because the action was periodically interrupted by commercials selling soap.

I guess if I have a choice between watching soap operas without sex & violence or with, I would choose with.

I'm just not really all that interested by fiction in general, though.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (sdi6R)

146 I look younger than the guy in the photo.

Posted by: Clotty McCainus at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (mcI77)

147 The Catholic Church even tried to control who read The Bible, before Gutenberg's press was working.
And they were right in their own narrow interpretation. Because more people reading The Bible partly led to the Protestant Reformation.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (S6Pax)

That's a load of garbage. The Catholic Church chained Bibles in Churches because they were valuable and rare, and they chained them where anyone could come and read them any time. At no time did they prevent anyone from reading them, and they also made stained glass windows and scuptures of Bible stories so that those (the majority of folks) who were illiterate could learn the stories as well.

The Protestant revolution began because Luther didn't like some of the excesses of inveterate sinners in the Catholic hierarchy, but also because he had a monumental ego and wanted to marry a nun.

It is possible to read history without resorting to polemic.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (NXsWM)

148 I really don't give a rat's derierre what anyone thinks about GoT, but let's not compare it to a snuff film.

Nobody's ACTUALLY dying on set, at least not intentionally.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (hcyUh)

149 "One of the reasons I enjoy GoT is the acting, which I find quite good"

GoT is actually character driven, which is why it's a hit. There are many well-defined characters, some with good traits, most not.
The show runners manage to keep 20 plates spinning on 20 plates.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 12:49 PM (pV/54)

150 Bluebell, want another head scratcher. Why are pants called a pair anyway.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:46 PM (Wja0c)
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Two legs, I guess? A pair of eyeglasses. A pair of teeth (if you're referring to Yankees fans).

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:49 PM (sBOL1)

151 Posted by: tcn in AK at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (NXsWM)

hear, hear

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 12:49 PM (hcyUh)

152 Operas are soap operas with singing and no soap.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:39 PM


Over all, life is better with no soap, although admittedly it might lack a touch of Zest.

Posted by: Ralphie at July 16, 2017 12:49 PM (DMUuz)

153 GoT is actually character driven, which is why it's a hit.

Bingo. Nobody running around in tights and a cape. Well, maybe Joffrey.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:50 PM (LAe3v)

154 This guy's name is Matthew Walthier?


I kind of like him in Grumpy Old Men. Didn't know he was still around though.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 16, 2017 12:50 PM (wPiJc)

155 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE DAENERYS AND SANSA BOTH WANT MY COCK

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBIERGER at July 16, 2017 12:51 PM (FTPVM)

156 153 GoT is actually character driven, which is why it's a hit.

Bingo. Nobody running around in tights and a cape. Well, maybe Joffrey.
Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:50 PM (LAe3v)

Joffrey meeting a nasty end is one of the few bits of justice in that show. That and Arya Stark killing all the fuckers involved in the Red Wedding.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 12:51 PM (0mRoj)

157 I thought that Star Wars Episode VII should have been called "The Force Awakens 2 or 3 Times a Night to Use the Bathroom"

Posted by: josephistan at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (ANIFC)



I watched a bit of it last night. It should have been called "Check the Diversity Boxes". Although I think they may have missed the tranny one. For shame on their bigotry.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 12:53 PM (auHtY)

158 I think this Matthew Walthier guy is just caught in the Golden Internet Opinion Age trap of feeling as if a writer must make a Grand Pronouncement™ no matter how tenuous the supporting evidence.

The easiest thing is to choose not to read such.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 16, 2017 12:54 PM (wPiJc)

159 140 Bluebell, want another head scratcher. Why are pants called a pair anyway.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 12:46 PM (Wja0c)


One time I went into a supermarket, I put one pear in my basket, and when I got to the checkout, I asked how much. The checkout clerk said 10 cents. I said, "If it's 10 cents a pear, then I should get one for 5 cents."

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 12:55 PM (sdi6R)

160 Except that your bad choices also affect society as a whole. That's why I'm not a radical libertarian.
Posted by: pep


Neither am I. Radical Libertarianism is also a morals free and values free approach. For a little while, if it actually takes place, until the ensuing anarchy becomes intolerable. Watch Oregon turn into a dump. Free choice to have small amounts of cocaine, heroin, meth, whatever.

But trying TOO HARD to control people's choices ends up being a worse cure than suffering with the bad choices of stupid people.

Most people can't moderate themselves, or moderate their choices.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:55 PM (S6Pax)

161 tcn --

**At no time did they prevent anyone from reading them**

That would seem to be at odds with the notion they were valuable. If something's valuable you don't let just anyone come off the street and handle it.

My folks went to Catholic schools in the 20th century and are both of the opinion that reading the Bible was discouraged.

And this Catholic site says Catholics didn't start being encouraged to read The Bible until 1943: https://tinyurl.com/jautwda

"Until the twentieth Century, it was only Protestants who actively embraced Scripture study. That changed after 1943 when Pope Pius XII issued the encyclical Divino Afflante Spiritu. This not only allowed Catholics to study Scripture, it encouraged them to do so."

Since my parents went to Catholic schools after 1943, we can assume the message didn't filter down right away.

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 12:55 PM (CcUfv)

162 I never did understand why soap operas were so
named. I get the soap part, because the commercials were mainly for
laundry detergent, but the opera part? Operas have no spoken words,
only singing. Why not just call them soap dramas? Soap tragedies?



I'll just file that under "questions to which I will never know the answer, most probably."



Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (sBOL1)

Same goes for space opera and horse opera.

Posted by: mark1971 at July 16, 2017 12:57 PM (xPl2J)

163 Actually, you are both right.
Martin Luther lit the fuse
The printing press allowed for mass publication

So lighten the fuck up or I will butcher your immortal soul

muuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Satan at July 16, 2017 12:57 PM (FTPVM)

164 New Dr Who is a woman, will she be a lesbian?

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 12:57 PM (jHrzU)

165 That's a load of garbage. The Catholic Church chained Bibles in Churches because they were valuable and rare, and they chained them where anyone could come and read them any time.
Posted by: tcn in AK


You seem upset.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:58 PM (S6Pax)

166 In one of the upcoming episodes of Game of Thrones, a small group of social misfits befriends a clan of forest bears by giving them small trinkets and baskets of food. At first the villagers think of this as harmless, but over time the bears and the misfits form a strong bond and the bears are convinced to attack and destroy the village, killing dozens.

The moral of the story?


Beware of geeks gifting bears.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 16, 2017 12:58 PM (wPiJc)

167 New Dr Who is a woman, will she be a lesbian?

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 12:57 PM (jHrzU)

No, she will have a penis.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 16, 2017 12:58 PM (xPl2J)

168 "didn't some guy named - ironically - Matthew warn you folks about that"

About what? Are you saying that he is being a hypocrite in his judgment? Ignoring his own obscene productions to preach about the dangers of obscene productions?

Non-Christians love to throw that line out, but it just shows they get their Christian theology off of whatever random bumper stickers they come across.

Here are some more: please feel free to explain to me how these are to be done without judging:

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your peals to pigs."

"What out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruits, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown in the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. But don't judge fruit!"

I may have added that last part.

Or, maybe Jesus told us to never judge:

"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgement."

Well, there goes that.

I have absolutely no interest in Game of Thrones or the latest moral outrage; just the stupid simplicity of taking a single quote out of a ridiculously big text, whittling it down to shear it of all context, and then using that to preach.

Posted by: JSchuler at July 16, 2017 12:59 PM (YsGL+)

169 But trying TOO HARD to control people's choices ends up being a worse cure than suffering with the bad choices of stupid people.[/]

Yup. Muddling through is intellectually unsatisfying, but all things considered, is usually still the best approach. It tends to eliminate the more radical ideological decisions.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:59 PM (LAe3v)

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 12:59 PM (LAe3v)

171 In other news, the next Doctor on Doctor Who will be...

A woman.

Of course, all the right sort of people are over the moon about it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 16, 2017 12:37 PM (17QyB)



Of course. Hopefully this will be the final nail the coffin of the show. It has been on a downward spiral since the ponce and pedo John Nathan Turner took over

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 12:59 PM (auHtY)

172 I'll start this off by saying that I really dislike GoT (the books, I dislike them enough that I never gave the series a watch.)

There is an interesting irony/coincidence here. I have mentioned before on this blog when discussing LoTR that one of the themes Tolkien wanted to explore in his series was the world without a savior- the idea that courage in the absence of the guarantee of everlasting life was more profound. Tolkien however, believed that Man was fundamentally good. That the human soul would still strive towards goodness, even in the absence of the knowledge of Christ/God.

Martin, the leftist, does not operate under that belief and that is reflected in his world. His world is a brutal medieval dystopia full of evil, pettiness and rape.

I really dislike GoT, but do I think it is dangerous? Only in the opposite. It is in of itself not dangerous, but only illustrates how a society can be judged by which stories it tells.

On the other hand, good superhero stories are also popular. So we got that going for us.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 16, 2017 12:59 PM (ycWCI)

173 Isn't it fairer to say that because of their history, Protestants made Bible study integral to their faith in a way that Catholics hadn't.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 01:00 PM (pV/54)

174 The Game of Thrones?

How about the Game of baseball

18 + Innings today of Yankees-Red Sox

Go baby

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2017 01:00 PM (SjImc)

175 Radical Libertarianism is also a morals free and values free approach

osted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:55 PM (S6Pax)

I don't think I agree... from what I understand of it, Radical Libertarian is not morals free, it's actually HYPER moralistic, except that the only "Moral" or norm or more or whatever that they vehemently subscribe to is that you get what you pay for, and you pay for what you get.

I also don't like that philosophy, but it's certainly not "amoral".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 01:01 PM (hcyUh)

176 174
The Game of Thrones?



How about the Game of baseball



18 + Innings today of Yankees-Red Sox


You must have meant the Game of Drones.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:01 PM (LAe3v)

177 Martin never finished writing the series, so how do all the readers feel about the show? My husband likes the show, but he doesn't read the books.

I don't like the books or the show. Not my style.

Posted by: Quirky bookworm at July 16, 2017 01:02 PM (gppsv)

178 I suspect the term opera as applied to soap operas was used ironically, in the sense that watching daytime television was sort of seen as a lowbrow form of entertainment, and the polar opposite of something like grand opera. An industry joke if you will.

Sort of like a 6'8" man nicknamed "Shorty".

Posted by: Muldoon at July 16, 2017 01:02 PM (wPiJc)

179 Infidel --

**You too young to remember Dallas? Gawd I hated that show.**

Ha! No, I was thinking of Dallas when I wrote that! People would say "It's just a late night soap opera!" The media discourse was not dominated by it, except to cover it as a phenomenon, and certainly not to extol it.

Or at least that's how I remember it.

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 01:03 PM (CcUfv)

180 "His world is a brutal medieval dystopia full of evil, pettiness and rape."

My point above, because there is no Christianity in Westeros. Christianity made Medieval Europe better, on the whole, but there's nothing in GoT that didn't happen in Medieval Europe, once you take out the Dragons and Shit.

And there is some move to the Good in GoT -- Baberaham Lincoln Dany! -- Let's see how it plays out.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 01:04 PM (pV/54)

181 The Game of Thrones?

How about the Game of baseball?


****

That would be a game of throwin'

Posted by: Muldoon at July 16, 2017 01:04 PM (wPiJc)

182

oh what the crap is this!

TRUMPY BEAR??

anyone see this tv commercial yet?

it's a stuffed animal teddy bear with an orange-blond Trump hair-do

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:04 PM (8gTsX)

183 Sort of like a 6'8" man nicknamed "Shorty".

Posted by: Muldoon at July 16, 2017 01:02 PM (wPiJc)




Jimmy Drama: Wait that's a joke? Well it's a MEAN one!!!! I cried myself to sleep thinking people were serious.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 01:04 PM (auHtY)

184 The new Doctor Who transitions rather than regenerates.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 01:05 PM (IqV8l)

185 He's correct that GoT is basically pornography, along with Breaking Bad, the Sopranos, etc. We watch in order to have our base emotions manipulated, and nothing more.

That said, superhero entertainment is no more than a retelling of the same themes that the Greeks, the ancient Chinese, and all other cultures were telling. Just with more capes and rubber nipple costumes. And the vast majority of culture throughout history has been to please the masses. High art doesn't get made as high art, it becomes high art because it reflects something about the world that resonates with the audience throughout time. I'm sure Shakespeare was just trying to write a play about two idiot kids who fall in love and all the trouble it causes, because a guy's gotta eat and that's what the paying crowd likes.

Oh, I'll still watch clips of this current season on Youtube, because I'm a nerd, but I've found that my TV viewing has basically dropped to almost nothing.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at July 16, 2017 01:06 PM (Tnhbr)

186 184 The new Doctor Who transitions rather than regenerates.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 01:05 PM (IqV8l)

"I can't be trans! It keeps growing back!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 01:06 PM (hcyUh)

187 It is meant to be consumed as a diversion, as a pause in our real lives, but this humorless toad just doesn't get it.

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:06 PM (LTHVh)

188 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE 'CHASED' AND 'CHASTE' SOUND THE SAME BUT HAVE SORT OF OPPOSITE MEANINGS!

Posted by: Muldoon, filling in for BEN ROETHLISBURGER at July 16, 2017 01:07 PM (wPiJc)

189 7 insane Game of Thrones details that fans have noticed.

https://youtu.be/bLiFjwSd2i8


The first one they mention is that from the very first episode. Robert Baratheon touches 4 of the Stark's at the first meeting. The 4 that are all dead.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 01:07 PM (cAnNx)

190 I bet he knows his sandwich meats too.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 16, 2017 01:07 PM (bXUXl)

191 Jordanian parliament glorifies Temple Mount terrorists
Despite King Abdullah II condemning incident, parliament's chairman Atef Tarawneh describes terrorists who murdered two Druze policemen on Temple Mount as 'martyrs', asks Allah to have 'mercy on our martyrs who watered our pure soil' and heroizes their families who 'deserve honor and fame.'

Moderate ha? Allies?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2017 01:08 PM (SjImc)

192 Never watched GoT, never watched the Titanic either (can't stand that prat, Leo di Caprio), and none of the stupid housewives series either. Only thing I watch is sports. Pretty weird taste for a woman..

Posted by: IC at July 16, 2017 01:08 PM (gcme+)

193 When we're not refighting the Civil War here, we're refighting the Reformation.

*goes back to muh Twin Peaks*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 01:08 PM (QGoUX)

194 Isn't it fairer to say that because of their history, Protestants made Bible study integral to their faith in a way that Catholics hadn't.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 01:00 PM (pV/54)

Yes, they threw the Bible open in the vernacular to be read by "regular" people--that is people who were literate and could actually read, which most people couldn't. But it also led to almost instant splintering of Protestant churches of which there are literally thousands as opposed to a SINGLE Catholic Church. Why? Because there were different interpretations of Scripture--the very thing The RC Church tried to avoid by keeping it in Latin and thus out of reach of most people. The Church had been through these interpretation wars while the Roman Empire was still a thing....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 01:08 PM (7uYFy)

195 BTW, the fighting scenes in GoT are complete trash. Horrible swordplay, no tactics, just... awful.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at July 16, 2017 01:09 PM (Tnhbr)

196 I watch GoT for the the Imp. Well, and the Dragon Queen, of course. But mostly the Imp. All the rest of them can die as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:10 PM (LTHVh)

197 193 When we're not refighting the Civil War here, we're refighting the Reformation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 01:08 PM (QGoUX)


Don't forget the 2016 primaries, when every day around here was a re-enactment of Verdun.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 01:10 PM (sdi6R)

198 Right... There is absolutely no way all those scenes of murder, rape, child molestation, backstabbing, torture, cruelty, savagery, orgies, prostitution, gelding, homoeroticism, and death could possibly damage your psyche, darken your outlook or stain your soul... right?!

Don't get your panties in a bunch because someone lays out an argument for why you shouldn't watch.. save the hyperbole for someone who demands you don't watch.

Posted by: Arkansas Sophisticat at July 16, 2017 01:10 PM (xEBmq)

199 no tactics

Yep, they are based around what looks good in CGI.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:10 PM (LTHVh)

200 **The Church had been through these interpretation wars while the Roman Empire was still a thing....**

And they never stopped going through it. The schism of the 14th century was punctuated with a lot of squabbles over dogma.

Posted by: moviegique at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (CcUfv)

201 Oh wait, I forgot Moffat has already turned Doctor Who into a woman... back in a Comic Relief skit with Rowan Atkinson.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (Wja0c)

202 There is absolutely no way all those scenes of murder, rape, child molestation, backstabbing, torture, cruelty, savagery, orgies, prostitution, gelding, homoeroticism, and death could possibly damage your psyche, darken your outlook or stain your soul... right?!


But enough about the DNC...

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (0mRoj)

203 I watch Game Of Thrones for the articles.

Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (ZcAbN)

204
The new Doctor will be a white womyn. Oh how racist of them. Look at all of that Gallifreyan white privilege on display. Should be a black lesbian or tranny as the new Doctor

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (auHtY)

205
I watch GoT for the the Imp.


And also to see how long it takes a new female character to get naked. But mostly the Imp.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (LAe3v)

206 But enough about the DNC...

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (0mRoj)

========

Heh.

Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2017 01:12 PM (ZcAbN)

207 Don't get your panties in a bunch because someone lays out an argument for why you shouldn't watch.. save the hyperbole for someone who demands you don't watch.
Posted by: Arkansas Sophisticat at July 16, 2017 01:10 PM (xEBmq)

Nobody wants to ACTUALLY feel guilty about a guilty pleasure, i guess.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 01:12 PM (hcyUh)

208 One of the funny things about the story is that Westeros is just a small part of the world, and by no means the most desirable part.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:12 PM (LTHVh)

209 Don't forget the 2016 primaries, when every day around here was a re-enactment of Verdun.

Verdun, contrary to uninformed opinion, wasn't bad at all. Now The Somme....

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:13 PM (LAe3v)

210 Did Winter ever come?

Posted by: ShainS at July 16, 2017 01:14 PM (ZcAbN)

211 Also the spread of Protestantism had as much to do with European politics of the time as it did with actual "Faith." Even after Luther, many parts of Germany remained Catholic and a lot depended on the whims of the local princes---if they remained Catholic, so did their subjects; if they had a beef with Rome, they became Protestant and that's what their people became. Some switched back and forth depending on who they got a better deal from.

And Henry VIII had no problem with Catholic doctrine or the pageantry of the liturgy--the inside of any Anglican Church could be a Catholic Church. He just had it in for Rome and The Pope--allies of his rivals France and Spain....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 01:14 PM (7uYFy)

212
Game Of Thrones is a version of Sex & The City. Same exact show.

Think about it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:14 PM (8gTsX)

213
One of the funny things about the story is that Westeros is just a small part of the world, and by no means the most desirable part.

like New York City, or Washington DC.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:15 PM (8gTsX)

214 AP - Democrats say they must do more than talk Russia





And yet that's all they and the MFM keep talking about

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 01:15 PM (auHtY)

215 Game Of Thrones is a version of Sex & The City. Same exact show.


Hmm. Second First look at Sex & The City.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:16 PM (LTHVh)

216 212
Game Of Thrones is a version of Sex & The City. Same exact show.

Think about it.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:14 PM (8gTsX)

Who's the horsefaced columnist in GoT?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:16 PM (0mRoj)

217
btw, anyone notice how funny and snarky Ace has been lately?

Old Ace is back?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:16 PM (8gTsX)

218 Game Of Thrones is a version of Sex The City. Same exact show.



Think about it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:14 PM (8gTsX)

Hmm, never watched that one either.

Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 01:16 PM (gDoff)

219 btw, anyone notice how funny and snarky Ace has been lately?

Old Ace is back?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:16 PM (8gTsX)


Yup, it's awesome.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at July 16, 2017 01:17 PM (Tnhbr)

220 Old Ace is back?

It's the GAINZZZ.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:17 PM (LTHVh)

221 I'm totally cool with a self-described conservative making value judgments about TV programs. As the proprietor of this moron blog often points out, TV is the both Library of Alexandria and the Ministry of Propaganda for high priests of the left, and it suffers from no lack of undeserved praise. Adults should be able to handle a dude with Average White Guy Hair scolding you about you tastes without getting unduly defensive. As a person with great hair - and therefore valid opinions - I think TV has been on a downward spiral since that Lee Majors stuntman show went off the air.

Posted by: Svejk at July 16, 2017 01:17 PM (Y3gKx)

222
It's the GAINZZZ.

I think he's delirious from all the fasting and doesn't even know it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:17 PM (8gTsX)

223 One of the funny things about the story is that Westeros is just a small part of the world, and by no means the most desirable part.

like New York City, or Washington DC.

The Westeros were any Irish gang based in Hells Kitchen , NY who were especially violent and often carried out hits for the Italian mob --for an ever-shrinking slice of the profits.
The Westeros are actually run by Albanians today.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 01:18 PM (7uYFy)

224 Lee Majors stuntman show went off the air.
Posted by: Svejk at July 16, 2017 01:17 PM (Y3gKx)

Best, theme song, ever.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 01:18 PM (hcyUh)

225 Verdun, contrary to uninformed opinion, wasn't bad at all. Now The Somme....

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:13 PM (LAe3v)


Mais oui, let us take a walk in the Zone Rouge!


http://tinyurl.com/yaxeje33

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 16, 2017 01:18 PM (gwPgz)

226 208 One of the funny things about the story is that Westeros is just a small part of the world, and by no means the most desirable part.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:12 PM (LTHVh)

----
I didn't know this until I printed out a map of Westeros for my mom (a fan) and there was Essos (Asia) and Sothoryos (Africa, basically).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 01:18 PM (QGoUX)

227 "Never watched GoT, never watched the Titanic either (can't stand that prat, Leo di Caprio), and none of the stupid housewives series either. Only thing I watch is sports. Pretty weird taste for a woman.."

Nah. I live for college football season. I quit watching most television about 8 years ago. Coincidence? I think not. I've watched "Bosch" on Amazon,which I enjoyed, and the occasional HGTV and Food Network show but that's about it. Love me some college football though.

Posted by: Tuna at July 16, 2017 01:18 PM (jm1YL)

228 Verdun, contrary to uninformed opinion, wasn't bad at all. Now The Somme....


Mais oui, let us take a walk in the Zone Rouge!


http://tinyurl.com/yaxeje33

Posted by: Hrothgar


I'm sure you know, but for those who don't, that was tongue-in-cheek.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:19 PM (LAe3v)

229 Adults should be able to handle a dude with Average White Guy Hair scolding you about you tastes without getting unduly defensive.

Equally, people need to accept that we can be indifferent to their opinion. I had never heard of this doof before, probably never will again.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:20 PM (LTHVh)

230
Ace was on fire with his Japanese virgin post, his shia leboof post, and the Cosmo post.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:20 PM (8gTsX)

231 I think fully embracing Trump Made Ace Great Again!

So much win.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 01:20 PM (jHrzU)

232 218 Game Of Thrones is a version of Sex The City. Same exact show.



Think about it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:14 PM (8gTsX)

and Winter is the marriage proposal that never comes

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 16, 2017 01:21 PM (nFwvY)

233 "One of the funny things about the story is that Westeros is just a small part of the world, and by no means the most desirable part. "

Like Medieval Europe, no one in Westeros knows what's west of Westeros.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 01:21 PM (pV/54)

234 South-by-South-Westeros is where all the insufferable douchebag dragons live.

Nobody's fighting over that throne.

It's a port-o-john.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 01:21 PM (hcyUh)

235
and Winter is the marriage proposal that never comes

heh, truth

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 01:21 PM (8gTsX)

236 Shorter version: CBD likes GoT, and resents being told that it is garbage, so instead of defending GoT or refuting this guy's ideas, resorts to a post-modernist ad hominem attack with a side of quasi-marxist class warfare.

I miss the good old days when conservatism believed in moral absolutes and acted like it.

I've never watched GoT, btw, and maybe ity is better than the one book I read. This post is just plain stupid, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 01:22 PM (bZ7mE)

237 Westeros was just Siberia, until the Atlantians went there with their Dragons. Do you imagine the Slavers worry about the White Walkers?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:22 PM (LTHVh)

238 "I think fully embracing Trump Made Ace Great Again! "

Has he? Just askin.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 01:23 PM (pV/54)

239 I miss the good old days when conservatism believed in moral absolutes and acted like it.

When exactly was this?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:23 PM (LTHVh)

240 If the sentence had just been written:

"It is almost impossible to find more than one semi-decent film a month that is not an adaptation of some decades-old picture book franchise about men in rubber costumes punching each other."

...wouldn't it be, you know, true? Instead of true (good) and smug (bad).

On the subject of George "Arrrrrr" Martin (I think I read somewhere those aren't even his real initials; he added the second "R" himself, so I guess he's just a tubby little pirate wannabe or a self-made knockoff of you-know-who), to add to what someone else wrote above I started his first book and put it down after less than 5 pages. Not only was the writing terrible (the use of the suffix "-ling" was bad enough when George Lucas used it, and Martin seemed to love it), but the cocky kid and entourage getting killed immediately by otherworldly beings made that whole scene completely pointless, as well as inexplicable. If there are super-powerful homicidal otherworldly beings running around your world, why are you so cocky and what the hell are you doing running around at night?

Trying to figure out the answers to those questions made my head hurt, so I put the book down and eventually gave it away, to someone that I think never bothered to read it, either.

Posted by: HTL at July 16, 2017 01:23 PM (zl60v)

241 I'll say it again, this time without the snarky addendum, because it's actually true and relevant:

De gustibus non disputandem.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 16, 2017 01:25 PM (hcyUh)

242 Honestly, I can't imagine anyone expecting TV, the theater, or the movies to be anything but a passing amusement. I still put actors on the same plain as prostitutes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:26 PM (LTHVh)

243 Tits! Wieners! Tit-wieners! Wiener-tits!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:26 PM (0mRoj)

244 That fat so and so George RRRRRRRR Martin is going to let HBO finish the story so he doesn't have to do it himself. After spending my time reading the books and waiting patiently for each to be published I can't tell you how mad it makes me.

Posted by: Tuna at July 16, 2017 01:26 PM (jm1YL)

245 The nekked women part in this show sounds muy bueno, but we don't get HBO.

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:26 PM (Sfs6o)

246 @238 it appears he has.

There is a spectrum Trumpiness, from well at least he isn't Hillary to he gave us a conservative on SCOTUS but I wish he would stop that abominable tweeting to Trump, SMASH!

Maybe I am reading it wrong, but seems like Ace has gone to full on Trump, SMASH!

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 01:26 PM (jHrzU)

247 Never watched it. Never will.
And that's not because of some leftist's shitty opinion.

HBO sucks. That's why.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 16, 2017 01:27 PM (jWe5r)

248 245 The nekked women part in this show sounds muy bueno, but we don't get HBO.
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:26 PM (Sfs6o)

You can subscribe to HBO a la carte by a number of means.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:27 PM (0mRoj)

249 The quality of the story has declined along with the number of bare boobs. I fear that Winter is Coming.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:27 PM (LTHVh)

250 Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:19 PM (LAe3v)

To be fair, the Somme wasn't a picnic either!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 16, 2017 01:27 PM (gwPgz)

251 George RR Martin mentions South Park

https://youtu.be/DP_I-rj8RUY

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 16, 2017 01:28 PM (rnAwa)

252 249 The quality of the story has declined along with the number of bare boobs. I fear that Winter is Coming.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:27 PM (LTHVh)

They get perkier in the cold though.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:28 PM (0mRoj)

253 The nekked women part in this show sounds muy bueno, but we don't get HBO.

The episodes hit the torrents in HD on Monday.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:28 PM (LTHVh)

254 When exactly was this?


Five, ten years ago?

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 01:28 PM (bZ7mE)

255 I still put actors on the same plain as prostitutes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:26 PM (LTHVh)


Civilization was much better off when actors could not be buried in consecrated ground!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 16, 2017 01:29 PM (gwPgz)

256 So Game of Thrones is a cross between the Renaissance Fair the Goodfellas?

Posted by: very irredeemably undude at July 16, 2017 01:29 PM (2X7pN)

257 FFS, the same criticisms about GoY could be leveled against Shakespeare.

Titus Andronicus anyone?

Deaths, brutal rape scenes, mutilation and cannibalism.

In 2014 people fainted at a British production

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 01:29 PM (pV/54)

258 249 The quality of the story has declined along with the number of bare boobs. I fear that Winter is Coming.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:27 PM (LTHVh)


They'll have to keep their boobs covered in winter.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 01:30 PM (sdi6R)

259 103 Well, thank you, but that really isn't self-promotion. Because most of the time I find myself on the idiotic ding-bat part of the curve.
Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 12:32 PM (sBOL1)

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Not even if you tried, sweetie.

Lena Dunham, otoh, is a fucking dingbat.

Posted by: SMFH at July 16, 2017 12:37 PM (s5Kql)

******

Bluebell,
Totally agree.
Hell, it's your curve...you can be anyplace you want!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 16, 2017 01:31 PM (0tfLf)

260 You think that's bad, check out the new celebrity reality show Keeping Up With the Podestas.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:31 PM (0mRoj)

261 This post is just plain stupid, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 01:22 PM (bZ7mE)

Sounds like a simple version of a post-modernist critique.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 01:31 PM (wYseH)

262 HBO has fewer bare boobs than Starz has floppy wieners, so I'm grateful for that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:32 PM (LTHVh)

263 Honestly, I can't imagine anyone expecting TV, the theater, or the
movies to be anything but a passing amusement. I still put actors on
the same plain as prostitutes.
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Da plane, da plane!

Posted by: Tattoo at July 16, 2017 01:32 PM (Nbzu/)

264 All I know is when a mandatory teleconference was set up for tonight at 10, my 1st thought was, "That's when GoAt's new season starts! I've been waiting for a year!" Then I thought, "good thing for OnDemand." Yes, I love the show, the look,the sprawl, the politics of power. And then I go do other things. So sick of people judging me as a person based on a TV show I like. Which is how we'll have Trump for 8 years.

Posted by: Biblio at July 16, 2017 01:32 PM (4Dr5C)

265 The episodes hit the torrents in HD on Monday.

Sorry, what does that mean? Netflix?

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:32 PM (LAe3v)

266 262 HBO has fewer bare boobs than Starz has floppy wieners, so I'm grateful for that.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:32 PM (LTHVh)

So you're grateful for a higher floppy wiener to boob ratio?

Homo.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:33 PM (0mRoj)

267 228
I'm sure you know, but for those who don't, that was tongue-in-cheek.
Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:19 PM (LAe3v)


I got it. Well played.

Longbows vs. Crossbows
North vs. South
Ginger vs. Mary Ann
Verdun vs. The Somme

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 01:33 PM (sdi6R)

268 ace is far from Trump SMASH.

but he does seem tired of the nonstop dishonesty from the reeeeeing muh principlz kneejerks

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 16, 2017 01:33 PM (nFwvY)

269 Sounds like a simple version of a post-modernist critique.


If you cherry pick your quotes, yeah.

Basically, you didn't argue on the substance. You argued that his critique was without merit because of who he was, or wasn't.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 01:34 PM (bZ7mE)

270 People's taste in literature and "film" vary. I've got all this ridiculous "literature" training, and while I read "literature," I also read pure unadulterated crap for enjoyment. I eat lean meats and vegetables but also enjoy the occassional cookie or nutty-buddy.

I've know people to ridicule such things as jello-molds (my sons like my grandmother's "green stuff"), my taste in alcohol (I despise wine), my car of choice (I want space and comfort), and my vacation destinations (I happen to like the US, sorrrryyyy).

I think the problem is that so many actually give a shit what others think about their choices, if they're hip or not.

Posted by: dagny at July 16, 2017 01:34 PM (wZuWv)

271 265 The episodes hit the torrents in HD on Monday.

Sorry, what does that mean? Netflix?
Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:32 PM (LAe3v)
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I think it's probably some kind of Internet thing, but don't listen to me because I just recently discovered there is a camera in my phone.

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:34 PM (Sfs6o)

272 "Maybe I am reading it wrong, but seems like Ace has gone to full on Trump, SMASH!"

Good, if true. I've always been Trump, SMASH.

I'm a happy man.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 01:34 PM (pV/54)

273 Used to be that video games were going to rot my soul and turn me into a violent monster.

Before that, Dungeons and Dragons was going to rot my soul and turn me into a blood-sacrificing satanist.

Now it's fantasy TV. Anything that nerds like rots the soul, I guess.

Posted by: mikeski at July 16, 2017 01:35 PM (02uMU)

274 GoT is nothing more than a mirror reflecting the reality of today's society. He needs to visit Chicago, Baltimore or Atlanta where he can experience concentrated reality.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 16, 2017 01:35 PM (e1mEI)

275 245 The nekked women part in this show sounds muy bueno, but we don't get HBO.
Posted by: Weasel

you should sign up for the worldwideweb

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 16, 2017 01:35 PM (nFwvY)

276 I enjoy Game of Thrones. If you don't like it, then that's ok, not everybody has to like the same shows. But if you think that not liking it makes you morally and intellectually superior to me, then you can go screw yourself.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at July 16, 2017 01:36 PM (YKtkk)

277 274 GoT is nothing more than a mirror reflecting the reality of today's society. He needs to visit Chicago, Baltimore or Atlanta where he can experience concentrated reality.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 16, 2017 01:35 PM (e1mEI)

There's more perverted sexual shit going on in the streets of San Francisco than on any given episode of GoT.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:36 PM (0mRoj)

278 Sorry, what does that mean? Netflix?

It means they are shared on the bit torrent sites.


I do not avoid the media, Mandrake. But I do deny them my affluence.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:37 PM (LTHVh)

279
Used to be that video games were going to rot my soul and turn me into a violent monster.

Before that, Dungeons and Dragons was going to rot my soul and turn me into a blood-sacrificing satanist.


Elvis gyrating his hips on Ed Sullivan...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 01:38 PM (IqV8l)

280 I don't know much about Art but I know what I like and I like my velvet Elvis.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)

281 You argued that his critique was without merit because of who he was, or wasn't.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 01:34 PM (bZ7mE)

No, I argued that his critique was pompous and elitist because it wasn't a criticism of the show's merits, but rather a polemic on how it was going to affect MY morality.

If he had written a review of GoT and found it to be a crappy show, I would have read it, probably agreed with some of it and disagreed with more of it, then moved on.

But his smug and condescending tone was irritating, and his extrapolation of GoT to the destruction of the soul of the West is a bit silly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 01:39 PM (wYseH)

282 273 Used to be that video games were going to rot my soul and turn me into a violent monster.

Before that, Dungeons and Dragons was going to rot my soul and turn me into a blood-sacrificing satanist.

Posted by: mikeski at July 16, 2017 01:35 PM (02uMU)


Not to mention the panics over jazz and rock & roll.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 01:39 PM (sdi6R)

283 and reefer was going to make me waste my life.

Oh, wait ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:40 PM (LTHVh)

284 273 Used to be that video games were going to rot my soul and turn me into a violent monster.

Before that, Dungeons and Dragons was going to rot my soul and turn me into a blood-sacrificing satanist.


Indeed. I have no more desire to kill anybody now than I did before playing loads of violent video games

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (0mRoj)

285 is there anything more boring than debating taste?

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (nFwvY)

286 Does sweet pickle relish have a place on the modern hotdog?

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Sfs6o)

287 283 and reefer was going to make me waste my life.

Oh, wait ...
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:40 PM (LTHVh)

I thought it was going to make us into ragtime piano-playing rapists.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (0mRoj)

288 285 is there anything more boring than debating taste?
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (nFwvY)

Baseball. Golf.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:42 PM (0mRoj)

289 I see they decided to make Dr Who Female, Why, Why do they have to ruin it. Next Female James Bond.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 01:42 PM (dKiJG)

290 The bottom just fell out here. This is the wettest Jine & July I can remember. If August isn't just a straight up drought, we will be setting records for most days of rain here on the Gulf Coast.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:42 PM (LTHVh)

291 The new Doctor Who transitions rather than regenerates.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 16, 2017 01:05 PM (IqV8l)


The sad thing is that a lot of kids and young people probably think that "transitioning" is like regenerating and that they will actually become the opposite effect.

Literally.

"Trans-Medicine"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9ot4r6s

Posted by: The Cis Hat at July 16, 2017 01:43 PM (vBeA5)

292
I think the problem is that so many actually give a shit what others think about their choices, if they're hip or not.


Posted by: dagny at July 16, 2017 01:34 PM (wZuWv)

This. I pretty much don't care what people think of the things I like or dont. I like evil roomy SUV's and hate cars. I love nothing more than that sitting on a tropical beach with a book and a beer on vacation. For some reason my morning is not complete if I don't have a can of V8. I love some junk food and tomatoes from my garden. Go figure. To each his own as gma Dittman used to say.

Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 01:43 PM (gDoff)

293 Thunderbolts of lightning, very very frightening ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:43 PM (LTHVh)

294 There is a very simple solution to this. We need common sense art reform. I think if we create a department of arts and humanities, cabinet level, of course we could increase the sophistication of art consumed by Americans and save our cultural souls. It would only need an annual budget of 300 billion, a new 8 million square foot office park in Fairfax, 150-200 field offices and 30-40 thousand agents. We would create a national arts identification card that you would be required to present before consuming any art modality. An office within the department would be required to rate all art on a quality scale. All art producers would have to meet a specified minimum average quality rating or have their license to produce art revoked. Individual citizens would also be subjected to minimum quality viewing minimums. If you don't meet the minimum quality, you will pay a quality tax. You won't be told what to watch or what quality, it's jut that if you are watching what the department considers crap, then you pay a tax. It is purely voluntary in that way. Tax funds will be used for education...for the children. How can we not do this simple reform for the children?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 16, 2017 01:43 PM (dnWSK)

295 I don't get it. Isn't there quite a bit of GRRRL PIRE! in GOT?

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 16, 2017 01:44 PM (psH+N)

296 The new Doctor will be a white womyn. Oh how racist of them. Look at all of that Gallifreyan white privilege on display. Should be a black lesbian or tranny as the new Doctor

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 01:11 PM (auHtY)


The BBC won't rest until straight White males have been purged from the airwaves... and throughout the U.K.

Posted by: The Unpurgable Hat at July 16, 2017 01:44 PM (vBeA5)

297 Np problem, Never watched "Game Of Thrones". Don't want to watch it, Can't watch it because my TV doesn't work) It seems to me-from what I hear - that it has a lot of gratuitous sex and violence-not my thing. If i want to read entertaining stories about power plays in family dynasties mixed with scandals and violence I can read English History-which I do read and quite enjoy and which is based in facts.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 01:44 PM (iVOAv)

298 I should wander down to the reloading bench and throw together another 100 rounds of .38 Special for a couple of new shooters I'm shooting with next weekend.

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:44 PM (Sfs6o)

299
286 Does sweet pickle relish have a place on the modern hotdog?
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Sfs6o)

Only when combined with mayonnaise.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 16, 2017 01:44 PM (e1mEI)

300 I do not avoid the media, Mandrake. But I do deny them my affluence.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:37 PM (LTHVh)


Ok, now that was funny.

Posted by: HTL at July 16, 2017 01:45 PM (zl60v)

301 286 Does sweet pickle relish have a place on the modern hotdog?
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Sfs6o)

Sure, if that's your thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:45 PM (0mRoj)

302 285 is there anything more boring than debating taste?

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (nFwvY)



It kind of depends. "I like this thing you don't like, and don't like this thing you do, and here are my reasons" can be interesting and they might agree with some of the criticisms you have on their favored item and the positives about what you like.

But when its "I don't like this because its absolute crap and this other thing is so much better, and that's the end of the discussion," yeah that can get boring.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 01:45 PM (cAnNx)

303 I see they decided to make Dr Who Female, Why, Why do they have to ruin it. Next Female James Bond.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 01:42 PM (dKiJG)



But Jane Bond will still be bedding girls because a lesbian Bond will be sooooo PC

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 01:46 PM (auHtY)

304 The sad part is that, at least to me, GoT is not that good a story. I like the premise, and the glimpsed back story, but it really fails of it's promise. But I look forward to it because almost everything else sucks worse.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:46 PM (LTHVh)

305 @294
That was disturbingly realistic.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 01:46 PM (LAe3v)

306 282 but how do we know you AREN'T a violent monster and video games are the only thing keeping you spent and harmless?

Funny, I stopped watching GoT because I thought it was cynical, pointless, predictable and coarse with GRRM's rape every ten minutes fetish, but obscene? That's a very specific term with a specific meaning and Chinless is misusing it.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 16, 2017 01:47 PM (JkSZW)

307 I'll the heck out of some hot dogs with cole slaw on them.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 16, 2017 01:48 PM (psH+N)

308 I also eat them.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 16, 2017 01:48 PM (psH+N)

309 290 The bottom just fell out here. This is the wettest Jine & July I can remember. If August isn't just a straight up drought, we will be setting records for most days of rain here on the Gulf Coast.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:42 PM (LTHVh)



Its night and day compared to last year here. It was so dry I don't think I mowed my lawn for the entire month of July. This year I should probably be mowing it once a week at minimum.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 01:48 PM (cAnNx)

310 One of the best things you can teach someone is the difference between shit and Shinola.




Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 16, 2017 01:49 PM (5VlCp)

311 I should wander down to the reloading bench and throw together another 100 rounds of .38 Special for a couple of new shooters I'm shooting with next weekend.


If you can't hit them with six you need more practice, or some kind of subterfuge.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)

312 The article made it clear he has faithfully watched the entirety of the series. It seems he must be more angry with himself than anything else.

I watched two or three episodes of the first season and never felt interested enough to seek out more. Medieval fantasy has never been engaging to me. I always find myself distracted by thoughts on human innovation and how rapidly they could lift themselves out of that awfulness with a decent RandD program.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 16, 2017 01:50 PM (AK5Ni)

313 298 Tell them you may have loaded a couple of the wadcjtters backwards so they might want to duck when you pull the trigger.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 16, 2017 01:50 PM (JkSZW)

314 Oh, shooting with.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:50 PM (LTHVh)

315 311 I should wander down to the reloading bench and throw together another 100 rounds of .38 Special for a couple of new shooters I'm shooting with next weekend.


If you can't hit them with six you need more practice, or some kind of subterfuge.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)

Agreed. Those new shooters will be caught completely by surprise.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:50 PM (0mRoj)

316
If you can't hit them with six you need more practice, or some kind of subterfuge.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)
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Shooting with, not at!

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:51 PM (Sfs6o)

317 316
If you can't hit them with six you need more practice, or some kind of subterfuge.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)
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Shooting with, not at!
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:51 PM (Sfs6o)

Boooooriiiiiing.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:51 PM (0mRoj)

318 317 316
If you can't hit them with six you need more practice, or some kind of subterfuge.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)
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Shooting with, not at!
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:51 PM (Sfs6o)

Boooooriiiiiing.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:51 PM (0mRoj)
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One of the new shooters is WeaselWoman,

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:52 PM (Sfs6o)

319 It's a writer's opinion. Get over it.

Posted by: JCL at July 16, 2017 01:53 PM (YkWwC)

320 No, I argued that his critique was pompous and elitist because it wasn't a criticism of the show's merits, but rather a polemic on how it was going to affect MY morality.


He is a bit overwrought in places, but his argument is basically that watching an unrelenting stream of depravity can't be good for you. That is a pretty anodyne point.

You could have argued that what you watch has no effect on your moral character - I find that thesis fairly dubious myself, but you could have at least tried to argue the point. You could have argued that the awful things shown in GoT were portrayed in such a way as to promote virtue - the Bible, for example, contains lots of sex and violence but doesn't glorify them. You could have argued that the sex and violence are a reflection of reality and as such should be included for their own sake.

You could have argued a number of things. Instead, you went with the "you can't tell me what to do, you poopyhead!" argument.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 01:53 PM (bZ7mE)

321 One of the new shooters is WeaselWoman,
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:52 PM (Sfs6o)
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Hooray for Mrs. Weasel!

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 01:54 PM (sBOL1)

322 or vidiot hardly ever gets turned on any more...

i've never been in the habit, and herself, for whatever reasons, stopped watching the few she did.

when does college football start?

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 16, 2017 01:54 PM (Nbzu/)

323 The BBC won't rest until straight White males have been purged from the airwaves... and throughout the U.K.

Posted by: The Unpurgable Hat at July 16, 2017 01:44 PM (vBeA5)



I'm going to guess that some of the more popular shows are the ones set in the past but even shows like Downton Abbey had some ridiculously modern spins on things that just wouldn't have really flown in the 1920s. The left isn't content with f-ing up the present they have to rewrite the past too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 01:54 PM (auHtY)

324 319 It's a writer's opinion. Get over it.

Posted by: JCL at July 16, 2017 01:53 PM (YkWwC)

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And now it's turtles all the way down.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 16, 2017 01:54 PM (psH+N)

325 318 317 316
If you can't hit them with six you need more practice, or some kind of subterfuge.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)
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Shooting with, not at!
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:51 PM (Sfs6o)

Boooooriiiiiing.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:51 PM (0mRoj)
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One of the new shooters is WeaselWoman,
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:52 PM (Sfs6o)

So give her a ten-second head start. My God, man, do I have to think of everything?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:54 PM (0mRoj)

326 I had this realization sometime last year. My wife had gone to bed, and I was sitting up having just finished the penultimate episode of the show's sixth season on my laptop. Then it occurred to me.

LOL. That really says all you need to know about this guy.

I never watched GoT and have no desire to ... but I can tell you that if I didn't like a series I would know it before the end of the sixth friggin season.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 16, 2017 01:55 PM (rZ+mb)

327
321 One of the new shooters is WeaselWoman,
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:52 PM (Sfs6o)
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Hooray for Mrs. Weasel!

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 01:54 PM (sBOL1)
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She better not be better than me!!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:55 PM (Sfs6o)

328 Given how badly Moffatt used Bill this seasln, my hopes are not raised for a female Doctor.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 16, 2017 01:55 PM (JkSZW)

329 147 The Catholic Church even tried to control who read The Bible, before Gutenberg's press was working.
And they were right in their own narrow interpretation. Because more people reading The Bible partly led to the Protestant Reformation.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (S6Pax)

That's a load of garbage. The Catholic Church chained Bibles in Churches because they were valuable and rare, and they chained them where anyone could come and read them any time. At no time did they prevent anyone from reading them, and they also made stained glass windows and scuptures of Bible stories so that those (the majority of folks) who were illiterate could learn the stories as well.

The Protestant revolution began because Luther didn't like some of the excesses of inveterate sinners in the Catholic hierarchy, but also because he had a monumental ego and wanted to marry a nun.

It is possible to read history without resorting to polemic.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (NXsWM)

My History teacher in High School taught us this anti-Catholic crap. The Pope wanted to keep people dumb.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 01:55 PM (dKiJG)

330 "You could have argued a number of things. Instead, you went with the "you can't tell me what to do, you poopyhead!" argument."
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you make that sound like a bad thing...

you're new here, aren't you?


Posted by: redc1c4 at July 16, 2017 01:56 PM (Nbzu/)

331 323
The left isn't content with f-ing up the present they have to rewrite the past too
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2017 01:54 PM (auHtY)


Didn't Orwell say "He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future"?

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 01:56 PM (sdi6R)

332 The Pope wanted to keep people dumb.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 01:55 PM (dKiJG)

As do most people in positions of great power.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:56 PM (0mRoj)

333 There are mediocre episodes and then there are the stellar ones. I'd give it a 60/40 ratio or maybe 70/30. But when Game of Thrones is hitting all cylinders DAMN is it smoking good TV.

"My reign has just begun"

GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Max Power at July 16, 2017 01:59 PM (QCc6B)

334 By the way, Weasel, I am multi-tasking - working on the cookbook, watching the Red Sox game, and halfway paying attention here. So when I someday go shooting with you, maybe I can get a twenty second head start.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 01:59 PM (sBOL1)

335 You could have argued a number of things. Instead, you went with the "you can't tell me what to do, you poopyhead!" argument.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 01:53 PM (bZ7mE)

Which is an appropriate argument to make when confronted with the superior attitude that the writer took.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 02:00 PM (wYseH)

336 >>>And nobody gave Wun Wun armor and a helmet with a visor?

By that logic you would never have Conan go shirtless. Style points count in movies as much if not more than logic.

Posted by: Max Power at July 16, 2017 02:01 PM (QCc6B)

337 The Protestant revolution began because Luther didn't like some of the excesses of inveterate sinners in the Catholic hierarchy, but also because he had a monumental ego and wanted to marry a nun.


He didn't marry until long after the 95 Thesis were posted, he was hauled in front of the Diet of Worms and ordered to recant, refused, was spirited away, and the Reformation got started in earnest.

There were vernacular bible translations predating Luther - particularly the English translation by Wycliff - floating around for generations. The Church wasn't real keen on those, either.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 02:02 PM (bZ7mE)

338 gosh i started back into model railroading as a hobby and I can't stop buying from ebay....

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 02:02 PM (jHrzU)

339 Chris Wallace (and others)are driving me nuts wishing a meeting that goes nowhere is treason.

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:03 PM (9g/6M)

340 334 By the way, Weasel, I am multi-tasking - working on the cookbook, watching the Red Sox game, and halfway paying attention here. So when I someday go shooting with you, maybe I can get a twenty second head start.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 01:59 PM (sBOL1)
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It's all good! I admire those who can do two things at once, much less three!

Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 02:03 PM (Sfs6o)

341 It's a writer's opinion. Get over it.

Posted by: JCL at July 16, 2017 01:53 PM (YkWwC)

Wow.

That's insightful.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 02:03 PM (wYseH)

342 I wish I had a battle ax to sharpen for the up coming days.

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:04 PM (9g/6M)

343 but his argument is basically that watching an unrelenting stream of depravity can't be good for you. That is a pretty anodyne point.

An hour a week of depraved TV will no more make me a violent demon than an hour a week of Mass will make me a glowy-haloed Saint.

Posted by: mikeski at July 16, 2017 02:04 PM (02uMU)

344 CBD, when you resort to saying that the writer should have said the show is "bad for ME," aren't you just reflexively parroting the post-modern line?

There are no objective standards.
Miley Cyrus is as good and wholesome as Bach.
One culture is as good (or bad) as another.
"Sin" is being out of alignment with MY values.
Good grief.

Maybe what you meant is that he should just say "I don't like GoT." But personal TASTE wasn't the subject of his essay. He was arguing that it is spiritually UNHEALTHY for the viewer. (Whether he made a good argument or not I don't know.)

The question of whether certain materials are healthy or not is one that parents face all the time. Most of us don't mind if the kids watch some vapid junk but we do monitor unhealthy messages and images.

Perhaps the minute someone suggests that we adults ought to monitor our own consumption we get defensive. You aren't my parent!!! I get that. But he wasn't saying GoT should be banned.

I dunno.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:06 PM (0jtPF)

345 Now remember, y'all.

Night is coming.

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at July 16, 2017 02:07 PM (GdgAM)

346 I never watched GoT and have no desire to ... but I
can tell you that if I didn't like a series I would know it before the
end of the sixth friggin season.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


One is reminded of the old joke involving two elderly Jewish women discussing a restaurant:

EJW1: that restaurant has terrible food!
EJW2: and such small portions.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 02:07 PM (LAe3v)

347 Which is an appropriate argument to make when confronted with the superior attitude that the writer took.


If you want to go with the emotional reaction, I guess so. Just think twice before criticizing the Left for acting like "a 12 year old in the midst of her first period" or whatever the phrase is, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 02:07 PM (bZ7mE)

348 Chris Wallace (and others)are driving me nuts wishing a meeting that goes nowhere is treason.

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:03 PM (9g/6M)


It's truly amazing how all the critics can infer the intent of the meeting and the preparation the Trump staff did as far as research and background checks of the people involved without any testimony whatsoever.

It's a kangaroo court without the naked bodies and wet towels and homo-erotic undertones.

Devolution of journalism in realtime.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 02:07 PM (EgwCt)

349 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:06 PM (0jtPF)

I agree.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:08 PM (iVOAv)

350 I thought they were going to turn THE WITCHER into a tv show.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 02:09 PM (dKiJG)

351 It's a kangaroo court without the naked bodies and wet towels and homo-erotic undertones.


Just what type of kangaroos do you hang out with?

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 02:10 PM (LAe3v)

352 What would he have thought about the Groundlings gathered before the stage at the Globe? Never mind that the entire theater was considered de classe

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 02:10 PM (brIR5)

353 I date women based on their entertainment tastes. For example, if they prefer to watch GoT over Last Man Standing or NCIS, I write them off as leftist whores.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 16, 2017 02:11 PM (+dsLj)

354 "Bill" was the SJW everyman in their morality play.

Remember, the BBC offers jobs that straight White men are prohibited from taking.

The BBC was praising how wonderful it was that they had fewer straight White males on the writing staff.

Posted by: Time and Relative Hats in Space at July 16, 2017 02:11 PM (vBeA5)

355 The moralist writer didn't like Sansa having the dogs eat her pervert, monster "husband". Huh. That was obscene to him but not her abuse which has been in prior episodes that he watched without any revelations. Nor other murders. He finds "retribution" disturbing. That is very interesting part of this particular creep's psyche. He finds it crude or that is his rationalization anyway. He doesn't like comeuppance. It must scare him for some reason.

Posted by: Lester at July 16, 2017 02:12 PM (LfJIn)

356 Now they are all harping on family working in the DT administration, its like the first time a family member of the President was doing a official job like AG or something.

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:12 PM (9g/6M)

357 Game of Thrones is TV and long form TV at that. The critique he has as quoted is devoted to films, books, and video games. And even then he has to avoid much of what is out there to come to his point that people don't like what he wants them to like.

To quote from an actual writer/artist.

How do we know it's true art? And before you start making gestures and sputtering, to finally come back with "knowledgeable people know that," let me cut through the fog. The answer is, we don't. No, not even experts. If everyone knew what great art was, investment in art wouldn't be such a risky business. Great art, great literature, any form of "greatness" in creative expression is ultimately "What future generations think is great." And, like all speculation about the future, it's difficult, if not impossible. In visual art, what is often the acclaimed taste of an era is the laughable, ridiculous pastiche of a later era.



http://tinyurl.com/y9xx4wa8

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 16, 2017 02:13 PM (d3wbb)

358 I will talk to Al about this Global Coarsening epidemic and try to come up with a Coarse Tax plan to save the World!

Posted by: Big Tipper Gore at July 16, 2017 02:14 PM (ZMtTe)

359 How do we know it's true art?

I'm pretty sure it isn't a urinal.

Posted by: pep at July 16, 2017 02:14 PM (LAe3v)

360 The Catholic and the protestant should be friends

Sung to the tune of "The Cowman and the rancher should be friends" from Oklahoma

"I don't say I'm mo better than anybody else, but I'll be damned if I ain't as good.

The Protestant the Catholic should be friends.
The Protestant the Catholic should be friends.

ASHQ posters should stick together
ASHQ Posters should all be pals

Protestants dance with the Catholic posters
Catholics dance with the Protestant gals

As long as they're not in a Protestant denomination that disapproves of dancing, I mean. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:14 PM (iVOAv)

361 sheesh, the dumb in this post. First off, the Bible is talking about judging people, not tv shows. Next off, the Catholic Church has been signing off on what TV shows, movies and books are suitable for the faithful for a long time. Next off, GOT sucks ass. As a writer, I find it poorly structured, the dialog is awful and its the the tv equivalent of offensive clickbait: rape, incest, gruesome murder, infanticide, have they resorted to cannibalism or necrophilia yet? Because if not they soon will, in order to up the ante every season. TV is worse than ever, notwithstanding the crowing about how cable series are widening the "art". They just allow it to get more crass and coarse.

An counter-example someone turned me on to is "Better Call Saul"- it's about crime and law, but there's a relatively small amount of violence, and most shockingly, the chars don't use the F word every other word (probably because it's on AMC). That's one of the things that put me off Deadwood, which I otherwise would be inclined to like, was the wall to wall 'fucks', which is not even how people in the wild wild west talked. To blaspheme was considered cursing, not vulgarisms or obscenity.

Anyway, Fuck GOT.

Posted by: docweasel at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (jiT66)

362 When I read things like this about how ENTERTAINMENT is sending messages and determining the path of our culture, I am reminded of what Samuel Goldwyn said to a pitch about a "message" movie, which was; If I want to send a message, I'll call Western Union.

Posted by: justjohn at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (0490V)

363 GoT, made it to S1 E8 and then I just stopped watching due to Danny "Where's my dragons, where's my dragon's....blah, blah, blah, blah." and the show felt like the verbose book but deviated so far from it (actor contracts and what not) made it unwatchable Like John Adams after Ep3. Dumb storylines I can understand but boring, I don't have time to waste.

Posted by: auscolpyr at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (pzA2L)

364 I am looking forward to the Episode of Dr Who when the New Dr gets impregnated by one of the old Dr.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (dKiJG)

365 15 I often wonder how many terrible columns are written because the writer has a deadline but no good column ideas.
Posted by: David J


Probably in excess of 95% of all columns fall in this bucket. So, they fall back onto the default: when all else fails, send up a rousing virtue-signalling lecture.

Posted by: Iron Mike GOlf at July 16, 2017 02:16 PM (di1hb)

366 <i>quick to judge (didn't some guy named - ironically - Matthew warn you folks about that?)</i>

No, and No. For someone who is quick to criticize, you are alarmingly short of facts AND context.

1) It was not "Matthew", it was Jesus Christ.

2) Anyone can judge actions. You might remember "courts" from junior-high Civics, if you've gotten that far. "Courts" judge actions like murder, theft, DUI, etc. But NO ONE can judge the state of another's soul--except God.

You are free to watch or read anything your heart desires, so long as it is leading you toward salvation, Bible-thumper....

Posted by: dad29 at July 16, 2017 02:16 PM (7Kti7)

367 The Catholic and the protestant should be friends

You obviously don't remember the 30 years War

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:17 PM (9g/6M)

368
128 >>>I read a lot of history. Most of it is a catalogue of dumb choices.

Word.

Posted by: George Custer, Prodigiously Perforated at July 16, 2017 12:43 PM (ppaKI)







Not by me. Never made a bad decision in my life.

On the other hand, that GoT episode "Battle of the Bastards" sure looks familiar......

Posted by: Zombie Gaius Terentius Varro at July 16, 2017 02:17 PM (iFZVz)

369 CBD, when you resort to saying that the writer
should have said the show is "bad for ME," aren't you just reflexively
parroting the post-modern line?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:06 PM (0jtPF)

No. I happily accept the idea of immutable standards. What I reject is the assumption made by the writer that I cannot discern the difference between the moral standards of a TV show and the reality of Judeo-Christian standards of behavior.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 02:17 PM (wYseH)

370 Well Duh... of course Game of Thrones is Evil...

Its all about 'Winter is coming'... which contradicts Man made Global Warmering!

Posted by: Don Q. at July 16, 2017 02:17 PM (NgKpN)

371 Gee, some people don't like being told that their hobbies are crap.

This whole bitch-fest is laughable.

If I want the tiresome "It's only a TV show!" screed, I'll go to some childishly libertarian site, like the unbearable "reason.com."

Wake up. Culture counts. Cultural pollution is real. Now, maybe you can argue that your little hobby isn't cultural pollution, but you can't argue that cultural pollution doesn't exist; that something just simply doesn't matter because "it's only a TV show."

Fiction moves the world equally as actual events do.

I'm thankful that I have a lot to do today, and I can just take a short fast from this site.

Posted by: RKae at July 16, 2017 02:17 PM (NQNOa)

372 As long as they're not in a Protestant denomination that disapproves of dancing, I mean. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:14 PM (iVOAv)
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I agree! With the caveat that the Protestants also not foist any of that jello mold stuff on me, either.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 02:18 PM (sBOL1)

373 Matthew can go have a sandwich with David Brooks.

Posted by: Rick at July 16, 2017 02:18 PM (30xBv)

374 362 When I read things like this about how ENTERTAINMENT is sending messages and determining the path of our culture, I am reminded of what Samuel Goldwyn said to a pitch about a "message" movie, which was; If I want to send a message, I'll call Western Union.


What do you think about rap music?

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 02:18 PM (bZ7mE)

375 Now they are all harping on family working in the DT administration, its like the first time a family member of the President was doing a official job like AG or something.

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:12 PM (9g/6M)


You are of course referring to Robert F Kennedy, Attorney General whose name was put into nomination by his brother, President John F Kennedy.

Personally, I think RFK did a good job with shutting down the mafia in this country. I suspect he was behind the RICO laws, though I'm no expert.

History has no place in the minds of the left. They are unable to process such information.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 02:18 PM (EgwCt)

376 osted by: docweasel at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (jiT66)

Thanks for the perspective from that of a writer.

And I think series as whole that tend to be more sensationalistic do up the ante in the season because they feel they have to.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:19 PM (iVOAv)

377 356
"Now they are all harping on family working in the DT administration, its
like the first time a family member of the President was doing a
official job like AG or something."

1992, the Clintons ran their campaign as BOGO. Vote for one get two Presidents. And Hillary from 1992 to 2000 was at least Co-president if not the real pants(uit) behind the throne since Bill had his around his knees most of the time.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 16, 2017 02:19 PM (d3wbb)

378 Well, bye.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 02:19 PM (LTHVh)

379 Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:17 PM (9g/6M)

Not very well. I was just an infant at the time. ;^)

I just hate religious arguments that go downhill fast.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:20 PM (iVOAv)

380 374
362 When I read things like this about how ENTERTAINMENT is sending
messages and determining the path of our culture, I am reminded of what
Samuel Goldwyn said to a pitch about a "message" movie, which was; If I
want to send a message, I'll call Western Union.





What do you think about rap music?

Posted by: Grey Fox

GASP!!!

Posted by: Big Tipper Gore at July 16, 2017 02:20 PM (ZMtTe)

381 367 The Catholic and the protestant should be friends

You obviously don't remember the 30 years War
Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:17 PM (9g/6M)

France's War of Three Henrys...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 16, 2017 02:20 PM (NgKpN)

382 Key and Peele - GoT Recap, yo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0XbcNcNJgQ

Khalisi straight up roastin' goats!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 02:20 PM (QGoUX)

383 I am looking forward to the Episode of Dr Who when the New Dr gets impregnated by one of the old Dr.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (dKiJG)


Would one of the previous Doctors screwing the new Doctor be considered masturbation?

Posted by: Hats and Relative Dimensions in Space at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (vBeA5)

384 I am looking forward to the Episode of Dr Who when the New Dr gets impregnated by one of the old Dr.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (dKiJG)
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I believe one of the New Dr. Whos (David Tennant) is married to the daughter of one of the Old Dr. Whos (Peter Davison). Does that count?

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (sBOL1)

385 I'm trying to think of a recent entertainment series that was good from start to finish and I'm coming up blank. Maybe the LoTR trilogy, as written.

There darn sure are few.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (LTHVh)

386 260 You think that's bad, check out the new celebrity reality show Keeping Up With the Podestas.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:31 PM (0mRoj)

Shouldn't be too hard.
Gray bar hotel, check.
Orange jumpsuit, check.
Tattoo done by cellie, check.
Getting shived in the yard, check.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (brIR5)

387 No, and No. For someone who is quick to criticize, you are alarmingly short of facts AND context.

1) It was not "Matthew", it was Jesus Christ.

Posted by: dad29 at July 16, 2017 02:16 PM (7Kti7)

Matthew 7:1-3

And the writer is judging the state of my soul by informing me that it cannot tolerate without damage a few seasons of a TV show.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (wYseH)

388 Yeah but he's not wrong, is he? GoT is a soap opera with obscene violence. It's not good "art".

The biggest GoT fans I know are hardcore Progressives that think they're super cool. Live in Manhattan and work at and visit the art galleries around town. One actually works at the Whitney.

I don't like GoT because of the obscene violence. It's a turnoff for me to watch torture. Also there's a tendency toward revenge porn which I REALLY can't stand. Yaaaas Queen and her DRAGONS are going to show the evil men!

Posted by: Tim Marchman at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (Yx9SN)

389 Posted by: docweasel at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (jiT66)


Run along back to your shitty website with the rest of your "docweasels" you banned little shit.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 02:22 PM (cAnNx)

390 France's War of Three Henrys...
Posted by: Don Q. at July 16, 2017 02:20 PM (NgKpN)

Paris is worth a Mass

Henry of Navarre

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 02:22 PM (brIR5)

391 I occasionally read Maureen Dowd, the bitter Moonbat Queen at the NYT. I hate to give her the click but occasionally she has something funny or insightful to say and I might actually get something out of it. Usually happens when she is trashing the Clinton's but once in while she gets something else right.

Clicked on her this morning and she has something about Trump and Game of Thrones. Complete delusional fake news Trump-hate rubbish.

I want my click back.

Posted by: Ripley at July 16, 2017 02:22 PM (MxEKc)

392 Does sweet pickle relish have a place on the modern hotdog?
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Sfs6o)
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Sorry, must be a dill pickle spear. You can get away with sweet relish only if it is fluorescent-colored green/yellow.

Real people just use a kosher dill spear (conveniently the length of the dog and bun).

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 02:22 PM (MIKMs)

393 Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 02:18 PM (sBOL1)

I think the jello manna from heaven must be truer of some denominations than others. Not that I've never seen jello molds in pot luck dinners in my denominations, but it's less common than other things. We do meatballs in a crock pot or some sort of bean casserole-like a large baked bean.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:23 PM (iVOAv)

394 Off to see Spider-man: Homecoming.

Ace of Spades is an interesting mix of people. Often much more aligned politically than culturally. And a little grumpy on a Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: Max Power at July 16, 2017 02:24 PM (QCc6B)

395
350 I thought they were going to turn THE WITCHER into a tv show.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 02:09 PM (dKiJG



They are. Its coming to Netflix. Its going to be based on the books not the games though.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 02:24 PM (cAnNx)

396 Senate is deferring work on healthcare bill because Gramps McCain has an owie.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yat8m3my

Sheesh.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 16, 2017 02:25 PM (oVJmc)

397
Who wants to bet left nuts that Ace posts this tomorrow after he sees it on another blog?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF5o4nOqwv4

And we'll act as if we've never seen it before.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 02:25 PM (8gTsX)

398 If you don't like killing and fucking on screen you're not going to like The Witcher.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 02:25 PM (0mRoj)

399
notice how LizLem never reported back on how her night of D&D went?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 02:26 PM (8gTsX)

400 301 286 Does sweet pickle relish have a place on the modern hotdog?
Posted by: Weasel at July 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Sfs6o)

Sure, if that's your thing


And you happen to be a FILTHY HEATHEN!!!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 16, 2017 02:26 PM (7oUUT)

401 -exposing yourself to the worst excesses of rot will change your ability
to function in a moral and ethical manner, and even if, as you claim,
you can rise above all of that and remain untouched, is there really a
purpose to indulging the worst of the excesses?
TCN in AK

100% dead-on

Posted by: dad29 at July 16, 2017 02:26 PM (7Kti7)

402 I will occasionally put sweet relish on a hot dog but never never ever go less than real pickles on hamburgers

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:26 PM (9g/6M)

403 I am looking forward to the Episode of Dr Who when the New Dr gets impregnated by one of the old Dr.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 02:15 PM (dKiJG)
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I believe one of the New Dr. Whos (David Tennant) is married to the daughter of one of the Old Dr. Whos (Peter Davison). Does that count?

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (sBOL1)


It's only a matter of time until they work in incest into Doctor Who.

Posted by: Time and Relative Dimensions in Hats at July 16, 2017 02:27 PM (vBeA5)

404 We do meatballs in a crock pot or some sort of bean casserole-like a large baked bean.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:23 PM (iVOAv)
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Sounds like our homeschool pot-luck dinners. And our swim team ones, too, come to think of it.

I suspect it's probably a regional thing, more than anything.

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 02:27 PM (sBOL1)

405
I don't like GoT because of the obscene violence. It's a turnoff for me to watch torture. Also there's a tendency toward revenge porn which I REALLY can't stand. Yaaaas Queen and her DRAGONS are going to show the evil men!

Posted by: Tim Marchman at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (Yx9SN)



Except the "evil men" is a psychotic incestuous woman that will stop at nothing to hold onto power.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 02:27 PM (cAnNx)

406 Also - do your part to end Hollywood (including Netflix and Hulu and Amazon Prime Video, which are New Hollywood).

Learn to use Kodi and never pay for any of these services or movies again.

Posted by: Tim Marchman at July 16, 2017 02:27 PM (Yx9SN)

407 As far as GOT. Watched a bit of the first season. Not my cup-of-tea. It wasn't the retribution but the actions that led to the retribution. Violence in films/TV/books/video games doesn't bother me but watching the powerful terrorize, torture and brutally kill the helpless is not for me. This is what caused me to also stop watching "Sons of Anarchy" after the burned the tattoo off that one former member. Just not something I care to watch.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 16, 2017 02:28 PM (d3wbb)

408 360---As long as they're not in a Protestant denomination that disapproves of dancing, I mean. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:14 PM (iVOAv)
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LOL.
But this brings up a point relevant to this post.
I looooove to dance.
Now, I have a friend who is indeed a member of a Protestant church that believes dancing is spiritually/morally unhealthy.

I had no problem hearing her anti-dance arguments.
Actually, I solicited them. Maybe there are dangers I need to be aware of there. Maybe she can teach me something.

Mind you, she doesn't think I'm going to hell for dancing or anything absurd like that. She doesn't judge me from a standpoint of her own righteousness.
TONE matters.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:28 PM (0jtPF)

409 Guess, I think you're right, bluebell. It's more regional than denominational wise.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:28 PM (iVOAv)

410 It is easy to imagine Obama watching Game of Thrones or House of Cards and saying, I can play with those guys. Because vanity never sleeps and poseurs gotta pose.

Haven't read thread yet, sorry it it was covered.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at July 16, 2017 02:28 PM (tKZfC)

411 147 The Catholic Church even tried to control who read The Bible, before Gutenberg's press was working.
And they were right in their own narrow interpretation. Because more people reading The Bible partly led to the Protestant Reformation.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 16, 2017 12:44 PM (S6Pax)

That's a load of garbage. The Catholic Church chained Bibles in Churches because they were valuable and rare, and they chained them where anyone could come and read them any time. At no time did they prevent anyone from reading them, and they also made stained glass windows and scuptures of Bible stories so that those (the majority of folks) who were illiterate could learn the stories as well.

The Protestant revolution began because Luther didn't like some of the excesses of inveterate sinners in the Catholic hierarchy, but also because he had a monumental ego and wanted to marry a nun.

It is possible to read history without resorting to polemic.
Posted by: tcn in AK at July 16, 2017 12:48 PM (NXsWM)

If the New Dr gives the Old Dr a blowjob does that make him gay?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 02:29 PM (dKiJG)

412 CNN is fake news!

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:29 PM (9g/6M)

413 And you happen to be a FILTHY HEATHEN!!!
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 16, 2017 02:26 PM (7oUUT)

Oh probably.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 02:29 PM (0mRoj)

414 Real people just use a kosher dill spear (conveniently the length of the dog and bun).


Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 02:22 PM (MIKMs)

Flag on the play. I use 2 spears. I can my own kosher dill pickles.

Posted by: Infidel at July 16, 2017 02:29 PM (gDoff)

415 There...are...three...Henrys!

Posted by: Capt. Jean-Luc Picard at July 16, 2017 02:29 PM (Tyii7)

416
I see that William "Hootie" Johnson is mortadella.

Remember the fake news - fake outrage over Augusta Golf Course in 2002? The Left smeared Hootie over a fake ginned up controversy which somehow became a Republican Scandal because of the GOP Cucks let it be so.

It took about 90 seconds for nearly all Republicans to denounce Augusta.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 02:29 PM (8gTsX)

417 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:28 PM (0jtPF)

Yes, tome matter. I'm glad you and your friend can talk about it in a reasonable matter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:30 PM (iVOAv)

418 Make that "tone." Tome would matter if I were posting on the book thread. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:30 PM (iVOAv)

419 410 It is easy to imagine Obama watching Game of Thrones or House of Cards and saying, I can play with those guys. Because vanity never sleeps and poseurs gotta pose.

Haven't read thread yet, sorry it it was covered.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at July 16, 2017 02:28 PM (tKZfC



Notice that we haven't heard any fawning stories about how Trump asked the CEO of HBO for an advance copy of any seasons of shows.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 02:30 PM (cAnNx)

420 [I see that William "Hootie" Johnson is mortadella.

He will be missed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 02:30 PM (LTHVh)

421 Would one of the previous Doctors screwing the new Doctor be considered masturbation?

Posted by: Hats and Relative Dimensions in Space at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (vBeA5)


Most recent episode with Master and Missy kind of broached that.

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 02:31 PM (jHrzU)

422 1) all pop culture is garbage.
2) so are oreos and potato chips and diet coke.
3) a diet that only/primarily consists of oreos, potato chips and diet coke isn't healthy.
4) a few potato chips, oreos and diet coke in your life isn't going to kill you.
5) some people don't like oreos, potato chips, and diet coke, but prefer good n' plenty, funions, and mountain dew.
6) People who don't like oreos, potato chips, and diet coke don't have to eat them.

Posted by: not the mama at July 16, 2017 02:31 PM (EpAnP)

423 As I wrote above I saw more people killed watching the only 5 minutes of GoT I ever saw than in 2 hrs of Saving Private Ryan

Posted by: Skip at July 16, 2017 02:31 PM (9g/6M)

424 This thread was disappointing because the lede, frankly, sucked. It's "oblique."

GoT, love it or hate it, straight up, would have been worthy a lede today.

Worthy because it is a hot cultural phenomenon.

It is one of the best TV series ever, right up there with The Honeymooners.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 02:32 PM (pV/54)

425 Tone

Wasn't that the Japanese cruiser whose late-to-launch scout plane was responsible for finding the American carriers hanging around at Point Luck?

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 02:33 PM (brIR5)

426 I don't like GoT because of the obscene violence.
It's a turnoff for me to watch torture. Also there's a tendency toward
revenge porn which I REALLY can't stand. Yaaaas Queen and her DRAGONS
are going to show the evil men!

Posted by: Tim Marchman at July 16, 2017 02:21 PM (Yx9SN)

A reasonable critique.

I tend to minimize the violence by pushing it into the background. There is simply a lot of violence inherent the story.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 02:33 PM (wYseH)

427 It does reinforce the narrative that all is politics/war. A theme I have gotten rather tired of, but hey, that's me.

Posted by: Wtp at July 16, 2017 02:33 PM (WQfDg)

428 Long ago, I hung out with a group of friends who were cynical about everything. And I do mean everything.

Now I appreciate sarcasm, snark, and ironic humor as much as anybody, but I thought they took it too far. There was no room in their world for genuine love or earnestness about anything. Everything was a joke.

Eventually I wearied of them and moved on.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 02:34 PM (sdi6R)

429 So psyched for Game of Thrones tonight. Also went to Mass, this morning, spent some time reading Vasily Grossman's great novel, Life and Fate, then read some Charles Murray, some Michael Oakeshott, and a couple of chapters of the Gospel of Matthew; now I'm watching the Cardinals game and chatting with my wife about our kids The problem with a guys like this guy is that all they have in their lives appears to be politics and political takes on pop culture. They'd be happier (and better able to enjoy some mindless fun like GoT) if they broadened their perspectives.

But what do I know? I'm from flyover country.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at July 16, 2017 02:34 PM (02TNz)

430 393,

"We do meatballs in a crock pot."

Precisely what I brought to Church today for our after service potluck. Meatballs - hotdog chili - grape jelly aka sweet sour meatballs.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 16, 2017 02:34 PM (d3wbb)

431 The writer makes a valid point about nerd culture - and it's not just nerd culture but infantile obsessions - but the writer's praise of art-house movies shows that he doesn't know shit about anything and only happens onto any valid points purely by chance.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 16, 2017 02:34 PM (rZ+mb)

432 I love Game of Thrones. The series does a good job of trimming out all the extra nonsense introduced in books 4 5, when Martin got Lucas'ed (too powerful to be properly edited).

Posted by: not the mama at July 16, 2017 02:35 PM (EpAnP)

433 I dropped GoT a while ago. Meaningless violence with some good acting and production values. Sort of like Lost, but with a higher body count

Posted by: Buanadha at July 16, 2017 02:35 PM (kxv3u)

434 avior.

Recently I was in conversation with someone on the aspie 'spectrum'. In the middle of what I was saying he/she turned her back on me and walked away. I automatically/reflexively gave him/her the finger and walked away myself, muttering about rudeness. My actions were caught by others though.

I just don't care anymore. I will continue to judge till my dying breath.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 12:09 PM (EgwCt)

It must give you a lot of satisfaction to flip the bird to blind people when they rudely refuse to see you.

Yes, I'm judging you. Good thing you don't care anymore.

Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 02:36 PM (uaHyk)

435 Posted by: geoffb5 at July 16, 2017 02:34 PM (d3wbb)

Yes, sweet and sour meatballs are a big thing and very tasty.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:36 PM (iVOAv)

436 422 1) all pop culture is garbage.
2) so are oreos and potato chips and diet coke.
3) a diet that only/primarily consists of oreos, potato chips and diet coke isn't healthy.
4) a few potato chips, oreos and diet coke in your life isn't going to kill you.
5) some people don't like oreos, potato chips, and diet coke, but prefer good n' plenty, funions, and mountain dew.
6) People who don't like oreos, potato chips, and diet coke don't have to eat them.
Posted by: not the mama at July 16, 2017 02:31 PM (EpAnP)


Fuck that! Nobody should be ALLOWED to eat more than 50 grams of carbs per day!

(Said a certain poster here a couple of weeks ago)

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 02:37 PM (sdi6R)

437 Season 1 of Westworld was pretty perfect. I can't think of anything at all I would change. Unfortunately, there will be a Season 2.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 02:37 PM (UGlpz)

438 Chocolate salty balls are the best balls!

Posted by: Chef at July 16, 2017 02:37 PM (0mRoj)

439
It's only a matter of time until they work in incest into Doctor Who.
Posted by: Time and Relative Dimensions in Hats at July 16, 2017 02:27 PM (vBeA5)

Would that be like Woodrow Wilson Smith (aka Lazarus Long, aka The Senior) impregnating his clones, Lapis Lazuli and Lorelei Lee?

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 02:37 PM (brIR5)

440

I'm Henery the eight.

I am!

Posted by: Henery the chicken hawk at July 16, 2017 02:39 PM (IqV8l)

441 422 1) all pop culture is garbage.
2) so are oreos and potato chips and diet coke.
3) a diet that only/primarily consists of oreos, potato chips and diet coke isn't healthy.
4) a few potato chips, oreos and diet coke in your life isn't going to kill you.
5) some people don't like oreos, potato chips, and diet coke, but prefer good n' plenty, funions, and mountain dew.
6) People who don't like oreos, potato chips, and diet coke don't have to eat them.
Posted by: not the mama at July 16, 2017 02:31 PM (EpAnP)

7) If you write articles like that guy, you can choke on a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Roy at July 16, 2017 02:40 PM (ABjxW)

442 Get it through your head: the people producing this stuff hate you. Their only aim is to get you to waste hours of your life staring at a screen and paying attention to a story that ultimately is going nowhere while extracting the contents of your wallet in process. Television makes you stupid. The more you watch, the stupider you get. Cancel your subscription, turn of your telescreen and find something meaningful to do with your life.

Posted by: The Emperor Cletus Augustus at July 16, 2017 02:42 PM (e3l1B)

443 Fuck that! Nobody should be ALLOWED to eat more than 50 grams of carbs per day!

(Said a certain poster here a couple of weeks ago)
Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 02:37 PM (sdi6R)
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What would be the penalty if found guilty by a totally jacked and ripped jury?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 02:42 PM (QGoUX)

444 It must give you a lot of satisfaction to flip the bird to blind people when they rudely refuse to see you.

Yes, I'm judging you. Good thing you don't care anymore.

Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 02:36 PM (uaHyk)


Subsequently it was revealed that this person, who works in a government position, has been repeatedly warned by co-workers that he/she should stop doing this.

He/she deserved every inch of finger I gave them. Yes, I realize their minds work differently. But that does not give them carte blanche to ignore societies conventions. Especially in the face of repeated warnings.

And by the way; yourself, fvck.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 02:43 PM (EgwCt)

445 Waaay back in the day, Dr Who had an equal Time Lord monitor/minder -- anyone else remember Romana?

Two dill pickle spears seems reasonable to me.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 02:43 PM (MIKMs)

446 So uh, is there some kind of incident at lax? Cause a fighter jet (neighbor said f1 just blasted over it.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 16, 2017 02:43 PM (hscyr)

447 It's only a matter of time until they work in incest into Doctor Who.
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The scripts are already done!

Posted by: Dr. Who's Gay Pedo Writers at July 16, 2017 02:44 PM (aT+Bx)

448 The folks at the Week would get along just fine with most of the folks at NRO, David Brooks, David Frum, Egg McMuffin, and John Podhoretz.

Which should tell you something.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at July 16, 2017 02:46 PM (hUf3d)

449 I'm not a huge fan of Game of Thrones, but watch it if you want.

My problem with it isn't the actual show, but the fact that despite being watched by relatively few people, it has huge cultural impact. Most watchers in one night? 7.2 million. That's less than the population of Virginia. New York City alone has more people than that. Its 2% of the population.

But from the hype, references, comments, and popular culture impact you'd think it was the most watched show on television. I bet 9 out of 10 people who talk about it even watch the show more than once in a while.

That's annoying to me. Its a coffee table book show, its something people reference and preen around but don't actually participate in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 02:46 PM (39g3+)

450 446 So uh, is there some kind of incident at lax? Cause a fighter jet (neighbor said f1 just blasted over it.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 16, 2017 02:43 PM (hscyr)
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Somebody just put sweet pickle relish and mayonnaise on a Hebrew National hot dog over in the food court on Concourse B.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 02:47 PM (QGoUX)

451 I tried watching Westworld and got... bored. Its not that there was no action, its that I didn't give a damn about a single person in the story, or anything about the story its self. None of it mattered.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 02:48 PM (39g3+)

452 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 16, 2017 02:47 PM (QGoUX)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:48 PM (iVOAv)

453 But from the hype, references, comments, and popular culture impact you'd think it was the most watched show on television. I bet 9 out of 10 people who talk about it even watch the show more than once in a while.


That's annoying to me. Its a coffee table book show, its something people reference and preen around but don't actually participate in.
--

The media collectively decides the agenda, and talks about it.

Right now, for whatever reason, they want GOT to succeed. So they talk about it.

Sort of like Russia, Russia, Russia.

And how they don't talk about the stock market if it's going up when there's a Republican president.

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 02:49 PM (aT+Bx)

454 431 The writer makes a valid point about nerd culture - and it's not just nerd culture but infantile obsessions - but the writer's praise of art-house movies shows that he doesn't know shit about anything and only happens onto any valid points purely by chance.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 16, 2017 02:34 PM (rZ+mb)
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Yeah, the reference to art-house fare annoyed me. So many art-house movies today are just as pornographic (re both sex and violence) as pop offerings, if not more so. And they are far more nihilistic.







Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:49 PM (0jtPF)

455 He just had it in for Rome and The Pope--allies of his rivals France and Spain....

You mean the Pope who would not license Henry's adultery. The "allies" part is co-incidence unless your real interest is anti-Catholic propaganda.

Posted by: dad29 at July 16, 2017 02:49 PM (7Kti7)

456 Would GoT have become so popular without the porn?

I've always wondered.






Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 02:50 PM (uaHyk)

457 While I view the entire Bible to be God speaking, Matthew is literally God in the flesh, Jesus Christ, speaking. It's from the sermon on the mount.
And the state of one's soul depends on one thing only, acceptance of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross for the forgiveness of your sins.
The state of one's walk with The Annointed One, The Son of God, is another thing entirely.
And a much better Christian than I am who is much better with words than I am could have put this up but,,, nooooo.

Posted by: teej at July 16, 2017 02:51 PM (B7V5e)

458 It is interesting watching the virtue signalling going on abut Dr Who right now.

I've seen zero posts from anyone, anywhere, upset by or even concerned by a female dr who. Nobody cares. But I've seen ten posts just this morning all about being upset at the OUTRAGE AND FURY against the female doctor.

Nobody cares, but you can sure pose as the mighty justice warrior wrapped in virtue in opposing those nonexistent people. Nontroversy, I think the kids call it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 02:51 PM (39g3+)

459 Would GoT have become so popular without the porn?


I've always wondered.
--

A new look at an R rated remake of ET?

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 02:51 PM (aT+Bx)

460 Whoa on the 'aspie' stuff. I am old enough to remember older people on the phone who would communicate their message and say goodbye. Most of them are probably dead by now, but I certainly remember telephone communications being almost like telegraph messages.

ps: grandson born this am, healthy, mom and dad fine but tired: 11lbs1oz. Beats the last one -- 10lbs something.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 02:52 PM (MIKMs)

461 Matthew 7: 1-3 is literally God in the flesh speaking the should have read.

Posted by: teej at July 16, 2017 02:53 PM (B7V5e)

462 459 Would GoT have become so popular without the porn?


I've always wondered.
--

A new look at an R rated remake of ET?

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 02:51 PM (aT+Bx)

ET's finger doesn't just glow, it vibrates.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 02:53 PM (0mRoj)

463 ps: grandson born this am, healthy, mom and dad fine but tired: 11lbs1oz. Beats the last one -- 10lbs something.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 02:52 PM (MIKMs)

That's one YUUUGE baby!

Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 02:53 PM (0mRoj)

464 Right now, for whatever reason, they want GOT to succeed. So they talk about it.

And celebrities, they all got on this bandwagon. But I can't work out why. Maybe they just want to be in on the geek cool before it gets cool this time, or maybe just a grindingly amoral show with incest, murder, pedophilia, nudity, and no good anywhere in it appeals to them.

For a some people "no good or redeeming quality" = "real" and "literature." It might be, despite those qualities, but that's not what makes it well done, real, or literature.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 02:54 PM (39g3+)

465
425 Tone

Wasn't that the Japanese cruiser whose late-to-launch scout plane was responsible for finding the American carriers hanging around at Point Luck?
Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 02:33 PM (brIR5)

Snopes rates this as true.

Also true is the pilot was so crappy at reporting that other planes were sent to get better information.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 16, 2017 02:54 PM (e1mEI)

466 449
.....My problem with it isn't the actual show, but the fact that despite being watched by relatively few people, it has huge cultural impact. Most watchers in one night? 7.2 million. That's less than the population of Virginia. New York City alone has more people than that. Its 2% of the population.

But from the hype, references, comments, and popular culture impact you'd think it was the most watched show on television......
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 02:46
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Or consider the program Girls, which for most of its run had fewer than a million viewers. At the time that Lena Dunham announced herself to be "the voice of a generation," I believe it drew about 400,000.

But the MSM made it Very Important.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:55 PM (0jtPF)

467 ps: grandson born this am, healthy, mom and dad fine but tired: 11lbs1oz.

Yup, that's a keeper! Congrats, Gramps.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 16, 2017 02:55 PM (7oUUT)

468 Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 02:52 PM (MIKMs)

Congratulations on your new grandson. Glad all are well but just tired . That seems like a good sized baby. Mine was about 6.7 lbs. No wonder why she's tired and the dad helping her..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 02:56 PM (iVOAv)

469 Yeah, the reference to art-house fare annoyed me. So many art-house movies today are just as pornographic (re both sex and violence) as pop offerings, if not more so. And they are far more nihilistic.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:49 PM (0jtPF)

Plus they were filmed in Italian and only come subtitled in French.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 02:56 PM (brIR5)

470 454
Yeah, the reference to art-house fare annoyed me. So many art-house movies today are just as pornographic (re both sex and violence) as pop offerings, if not more so. And they are far more nihilistic.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2017 02:49 PM (0jtPF)


Great point. I haven't seen any art house movies in years, but I used to watch them. I think you're spot on.

Nobody can do nihilism like Euro intellectuals.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 02:56 PM (sdi6R)

471 mbq, congratulations on your new YUUUGE grandson! That's a bouncing baby boy for sure!

Posted by: bluebell at July 16, 2017 02:56 PM (sBOL1)

472 @458 you reading the same blog I am?

Posted by: blaster at July 16, 2017 02:56 PM (jHrzU)

473 I am old enough to remember older people on the phone who would communicate their message and say goodbye.

That's my preferred way of using a phone. Its a tool not a toy. Get the job done and put it down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 02:56 PM (39g3+)

474 It is interesting watching the virtue signalling going on abut Dr Who right now.

I've seen zero posts from anyone, anywhere, upset by or even concerned by a female dr who. Nobody cares. But I've seen ten posts just this morning all about being upset at the OUTRAGE AND FURY against the female doctor.

Nobody cares, but you can sure pose as the mighty justice warrior wrapped in virtue in opposing those nonexistent people. Nontroversy, I think the kids call it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 02:51 PM (39g3+)


The problem is not who was chosen, bu why the BBC chose who they did.

Posted by: Time and Relative Dimensions in Hats at July 16, 2017 02:57 PM (vBeA5)

475 Congratulations, mustbequantum!

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 02:57 PM (sdi6R)

476
He/she deserved every inch of finger I gave them. Yes, I realize their minds work differently. But that does not give them carte blanche to ignore societies conventions. Especially in the face of repeated warnings.

And by the way; yourself, fvck.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 02:43 PM (EgwCt)

I've been told that giving the finger to co-workers in the business place ignores society's conventions. I hope you were suitably warned. But I'm sure a pleasant chap like yourself, caring not for the opinions of others, will proceed as your conscience dictates.

Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 02:57 PM (uaHyk)

477 }Most watchers in one night? 7.2 million."

Multipied with later viewings, but I get your point.

The lede has invited lots of comments by people who have never seen the show and/or don't like it on principle. And many who exaggerate the violence and misogyny because that what they hear.

No one's making you watch it, but IMHO it's one of the best things put on TV.

Because as I said above, it's character driven, and there's some characters to cheer for, and more to hate, and that's the formula for pop entertainment AND high drama

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 02:58 PM (pV/54)

478 Friends, friends. Let's not bicker and argue 'bout 'oo killed 'oo.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 16, 2017 02:59 PM (UGlpz)

479

let's fry some apples...with butter and sugar

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 03:00 PM (8gTsX)

480
And celebrities, they all got on this bandwagon. But I can't work out why. Maybe they just want to be in on the geek cool before it gets cool this time, or maybe just a grindingly amoral show with incest, murder, pedophilia, nudity, and no good anywhere in it appeals to them.
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My guess is that celebrities do what their agent tells them, and if their agent says "GOT is cool," they go along with it.

Also... celebrities have a lot of money, which can, I think, lead them into doing certain things just for 'kicks.' I'm thinking Eyes Wide Shut kind of things, and worse.

So really, if you've done all kind of disgusting things to get a thrill and fill up the empty void inside your soul, stuff that's degenerate would probably appeal to you.

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 03:01 PM (aT+Bx)

481 Time for a cute animal photo:

http://tinyurl.com/ybzjoa76

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 03:01 PM (iVOAv)

482 The problem is not who was chosen, bu why the BBC chose who they did.

I can't bring myself to care who the next dr is, because the show just never worked for me. Its just hilarious watching everyone pose as being in opposition to nonexistent outrage.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 03:01 PM (39g3+)

483 You mean the Pope who would not license Henry's adultery. The "allies" part is co-incidence unless your real interest is anti-Catholic propaganda.


The Pope was perfectly fine with Henry's adultery and offered to grant Henry a dispensation for bigamy if he wanted to marry Anne. He just wasn't willing to let Henry divorce catherine. That might have had a lot to do with Catherine's brother being in a position to really put the squeeze on the Pope if the Pope annoyed him.

Posted by: Grey Fox at July 16, 2017 03:01 PM (bZ7mE)

484 The problem is not who was chosen, bu why the BBC chose who they did.
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Yep.

Say hello to the new James Bond, a black trans Muslim fema... I mean.. um... person.

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 03:03 PM (aT+Bx)

485 OK, I finally started reading the linked article in the original post. The fifth paragraph begins thusly:

Popular culture in the English-speaking world is in the grips of a downward nerd-driven death spiral.

"Nerd-driven"? Um, no. Ever hear of the Free Shit Army?

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 03:03 PM (sdi6R)

486 "Then I realized it was endangering my immortal soul."

If you think watching a TV show can put you in the Lake of Fire, you're already headed there.

Posted by: doomed at July 16, 2017 03:04 PM (UW4Uc)

487 Whoa on the 'aspie' stuff. I am old enough to remember older people on the phone who would communicate their message and say goodbye. Most of them are probably dead by now, but I certainly remember telephone communications being almost like telegraph messages.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 02:52 PM (MIKMs)


Uh, no. Because I can see what is coming, because I have seen the past. Chelsea Clinton any day now will start talking about the 'stigma' of Asperger and/or Autism and a drive will begin to remove all references of it from the latest DSM. Television shows will begin to 24/7 'prove' the 'bigotry' of people who have little patience for those will little or no social skills. The mob will be turned loose.

Safe spaces will be required in every building to accommodate them. Words spoken without 'Trigger warnings' will be enforced with first offenders picking up trash from the side of the road on weekends. College campuses will ban opposing views.

Oh, wait. We're halfway there already.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 03:04 PM (EgwCt)

488 A new look at an R rated remake of ET?

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 02:51 PM (aT+Bx)

ET's finger doesn't just glow, it vibrates.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 02:53 PM (0mRoj)

It needs something. That is a surprisingly boring re-watch.

Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 03:04 PM (uaHyk)

489 457 While I view the entire Bible to be God speaking, Matthew is literally God in the flesh, Jesus Christ, speaking. It's from the sermon on the mount.
And the state of one's soul depends on one thing only, acceptance of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross for the forgiveness of your sins.
The state of one's walk with The Annointed One, The Son of God, is another thing entirely.
And a much better Christian than I am who is much better with words than I am could have put this up but,,, nooooo.

Posted by: teej at July 16, 2017 02:51 PM (B7V5e)



CBD is a jew. Give him some credit for correctly referencing which Gospel without bursting into flames.

Posted by: buzzion at July 16, 2017 03:04 PM (cAnNx)

490 Snopes rates this as true.


Well, alright then.

Posted by: Zombie Joseph Goebbels at July 16, 2017 03:04 PM (Tyii7)

491
Filth in images can be just as bad as booze or dope.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 03:05 PM (8gTsX)

492 He just had it in for Rome and The Pope--allies of his rivals France and Spain....

You mean the Pope who would not license Henry's adultery. The "allies" part is co-incidence unless your real interest is anti-Catholic propaganda.
Posted by: dad29 at July 16, 2017 02:49 PM (7Kti7)

Nah, I'm RC so you took it the wrong way. I know it was Henry's adultery and the refusal of the Pope to annul his marriage that set the ball rolling, but I was taking the broader view that it's not even matters of "Faith' and belief that caused the wars between Catholics and Protestants in the wake of the Reformation--although I'm sure it was that for certain individuals--but base politics.

This isn't in no way a direct comparison and it's not meant to be but it could be tangential in some way, but about Islam, I could care less how often during the day Muslims pray and to whom and whatever way they face. But I do care about their adherence to the concept of Jihad and how they design to take over the world "by the sword." It's politics.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 03:05 PM (7uYFy)

493 And the real love story from the Titanic

http://tinyurl.com/yax9h3j5

And now I have to crash. Being an introvert but having to function as a extrovert for Church and for fellowship hour has tired me out. I enjoyed myself, but now I need to recuperate. I was happy to hear from another clergy friend that he always need a nap ion Sunday afternoon too.

Be kind to folks. We are all on the same "team".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 03:06 PM (iVOAv)

494 Tits and Dragons! Two naked gingers (the lil red head Jon Snow was nailing and the red witch) made it worth the watch.

Posted by: JROD at July 16, 2017 03:06 PM (M3WlM)

495 On net, GOT might well be bad for many people. I'm sure that a moral, well-balanced adult could watch it and any number of other things with little or no negative effect. Conservatives used to criticize these kind of coarse entertainments on the ground that they'd be significantly more negative in effect for those not raised with the proper morals - often referred to as the "guardrails" argument - staunch standards in entertainments being intended to keep those less fortunate, with whom we must live with, from going astray. GOT may not merit that concern per se (or it might), but watch a movie like Funny Games and it becomes hard argue that guardrails don't serve a valuable role.

One of my guilty pleasures is gangsta rap. Not all of it, just some. I doubt it influences me overmuch, but I'm also religious in a relatively traditional way and law-abiding for the most part. But all the violence, promiscuity, degradation of women, etc. in those lyrics cannot be good for the soul and there are definitely demographics - young inner-city black men for example - for whom those lyrics are very corrosive. My guess is that we'd be better off without gangsta rap (even though I like some of it).

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 16, 2017 03:08 PM (H5knJ)

496 493 And the real love story from the Titanic

http://tinyurl.com/yax9h3j5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 03:06 PM (iVOAv)


Good link. That was actually depicted in the movie.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 03:08 PM (sdi6R)

497 I do think the new geek fixation of loving everything nerdy is not good (it kind of diminishes some of the joy of being a RPG gamer and being unique and holding secret knowledge when everyone knows what a d20 is), but not in the sense he means.

I agree with Donald Carson's breakdown of culture.

There's pop culture (the lowest form) which is temporary and shallow, adding nothing but trendiness and bandwagon fascination, and never lifting the culture up. At best it keeps things flat and level and usually drags it down. This is pop music, crappy sitcoms, movies by Johnny Knoxville, etc.

There's folk culture, which gives voice to a people in a culture and comes from the heart. Its "common" in the sense that it requires no special education and training, but instead is a natural outpouring of the people living in the world, but is fine in and of its self. This is bluegrass, blues, zydeco, arts and crafts stuff, etc.

Then there's high culture, which enlightens and lifts the soul by giving a glimpse of the transcendent. It teaches and brings elevation through beauty and truth given form in art. Michaelangelo, Bach, Shakespeare, etc.

Geek culture used to be folk. Its being turned into pop. And that's not good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 03:08 PM (39g3+)

498 The above commenters have it right but just to be completely clear if you read all of Matthew 7: 1-6, it's clear the only thing Christ was talking about was hypocrisy (he even uses the word 'hypocrite' for the particularly dense, as we all can be from time to time), not 'never judge anyone'.

The whole 'take the plank out of your own eye' concept is not to perfect yourself so you can beat up your neighbor for his faults, but to have defeated the sin so you can aid him, or at least inspire him, do defeat his (alcoholism being the problem I most often hear discussed in this context).

But if someone is engaged in egregious sin that you are not, the Christian is absolutely required to be judgmental. The sinner needs to know his sin so that he can correct it and seek forgiveness. If he's unwilling to mend his ways, we are to have nothing further to do with him, lest he influence us (because humans are weak and wicked by nature it is far easier to fall into a sin that you've already made excuses for if you continue to be exposed to it).

Posted by: Methos at July 16, 2017 03:09 PM (3Liv/)

499 61 I believe the full Biblical quote is:

"Judge not, lest ye be judged. Matthew 7 KJV:
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?These chapters and verses were added to scripture by a Catholic monk over 900 years ago. They are semi-arbitrary but he did try to group related passages together appropriately to reflect the underlying Greek text. So these first 3 verses of Matthew 7 are very directly related. You can't just pluck verse 1 out of its context.

The passage warns Christians not to judge unrighteously. It indicates in verse 2 that God will judge us by the standard with which we are judging others. And that God will be no more merciful or compassionate to you than you have been when judging the conduct of others. In verse 3, the Christian is told not to try to judge and correct someone else when you likely have an even greater sin in your own life, another veiled warning against hypocrisy, surely a very common theme in the New Testament.

The New Testament goes to considerable lengths to encourage compassion and forgiveness but also to instruct Christians in developing a humble but righteous judgment of all situations and persons. Look at all the times the bible contrasts righteousness with unrighteousness. It is nearly always a matter of righteous judgment/conduct vs. unrighteous judgment/conduct.

Of course, this is a very hard teaching to live by. The New Testament should never be read as representing a harsh judgmental tradition such as we find in Islam or Judaism, both of which are fundamentally texts of religious legalism. The New Testament, and the gospels in particular, are good tidings of a New Covenant. But while the burdens of Christian life are far far less than the mere legalisms of Islam and Judaism who labor under Law, the Christian nevertheless faces challenges like those commanded for righteous judgment and the consequences of unrighteous and harsh judgment and hypocrisy such as we find in Matthew 7.

Aren't we supposed to know how and why Christianity is so much better than Judaism and Islam? But that does not make it easy to practice faithfully.

Posted by: TooCon at July 16, 2017 03:10 PM (/RKjj)

500 I've been told that giving the finger to co-workers in the business place ignores society's conventions. I hope you were suitably warned. But I'm sure a pleasant chap like yourself, caring not for the opinions of others, will proceed as your conscience dictates.

Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 02:57 PM (uaHyk)


Once again, fvck yourself. This was a situation where I was helping the person out on a 95 degree day with 95% humidity. Six hours into the project my shirt and shorts was soaked to the skin. Instead of offering a glass of water, I was offered nothing but criticism and some grand pronouncements on the persons part of how important they are, how he/she had such a great degree at such a great school, how Trump is such a reprobate, Governor Perry is such a stooge, the entire left wing propaganda stream of consciousness.

These are our 'betters' now. Maybe yours. Not mine.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 03:10 PM (EgwCt)

501 500th?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 16, 2017 03:11 PM (7oUUT)

502 so late to this thread, I risk the likelihood that this point has been made, but what this guy is doing, as most second rate people do, is simply link his name controversially to the great big thing happening today to get attention. Had he wrote something positive about GOT, no one would have noticed. And of course without ACE, most of us would never have been aware of the article.

Posted by: IanDeal at July 16, 2017 03:11 PM (JhHPx)

503 I have no interest in GOT and less interest in this guy's opinion of it.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 16, 2017 03:11 PM (Or0ND)

504 @495 Great point.

If you believe that watching a fantasy like GoT will corrode your soul then you're a moron, and not in the good sense. It's "fucking standing up will lead to dancing" stupid.

Gangsta Rap on the other hand ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 03:11 PM (pV/54)

505 I don't care what people watch, but speaking from the point of view of an actress, I would not want to play evil violent people week after week or see torture even if i didn't participate in it as an actress. I think this can do bad things to your psyche. I don't want to watch GOT because of gratuitous violence and nudity and at this point in my life I'd rather thing on positive things that St Paul speaks of.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 16, 2017 03:12 PM (iVOAv)

506
Why would you be helping such a person in the first place?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 03:12 PM (8gTsX)

507 My guess is that we'd be better off without gangsta rap (even though I like some of it).

Yeah I agree, that's a good analysis. There is some art that's actually not good for most people, even if artfully and skillfully executed. Requiem for a Dream was well done, very skillful film making, well acted but horrific, unnecessary, ghastly, and in no way uplifting or beneficial. Even the thin veneer of an anti-drug movie was pointless: who doesn't already know that drugs are bad for you?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 03:12 PM (39g3+)

508 The problem is not who was chosen, bu why the BBC chose who they did.
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Particularly if you paid any attention to the propaganda they pushed on gender all of last season (which has been going on since the series got restarted with Eccleston, but got really bad recently)

Posted by: Methos at July 16, 2017 03:13 PM (3Liv/)

509 The Pope wanted to keep people dumb.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 16, 2017 01:55 PM (dKiJG)

As do most people in positions of great power.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 16, 2017 01:56 PM (0mRoj)

Most people ARE dumb--or at least too pre-occupied with making a living and surviving to sit around discussing Big Things.
But guys like Martin Luther and John Calvin were all for "woking" people to the perfidious Pope--as long as they bought into THEIR version of Christianity. People in positions of power, authority and influence don't want their flock to stray and in that, all powerful people are the same.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 03:14 PM (7uYFy)

510 Liberals you must not judge, then judge conservatives because we're not like them. Liberals scream tolerance we demand absolute tolerance of the intolerable-to whit I tell them to fork off and kiss me arse. I make sure liberals get the message- I will not tolerate your tolerance for evil and vile cultural norms.

Posted by: Rose at July 16, 2017 03:14 PM (3N8PC)

511 The problem is not who was chosen, bu why the BBC chose who they did.
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Yep.

Say hello to the new James Bond, a black trans Muslim fema... I mean.. um... person.
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Have you not seen my ad?

Posted by: Atomic Blonde at July 16, 2017 03:15 PM (3Liv/)

512 @497 It is sort of thing these days for writers to thinky bits about television shows that tend to ironically overstate the merits of said show. Not having read I assume the Walther piece is a species of that.

But on top of that, there is a popular affectation of nerdiness that is just another sort of put on. That trend seems to be producing an awful lot of dreck by reinforcing the popularity of a lot of sub-par entertainment.

Posted by: The Emperor Cletus Augustus at July 16, 2017 03:15 PM (e3l1B)

513 My guess is that we'd be better off without gangsta rap (even though I like some of it).

Yeah I agree, that's a good analysis. There is some art that's actually not good for most people, even if artfully and skillfully executed. Requiem for a Dream was well done, very skillful film making, well acted but horrific, unnecessary, ghastly, and in no way uplifting or beneficial. Even the thin veneer of an anti-drug movie was pointless: who doesn't already know that drugs are bad for you?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 03:12 PM (39g3+)

It's all Aerosmith's fault as far as I'm concerned. It was their collaboration with Run-DMC on a remake of their own "Walk this Way" that forced MTV's hand to show the video in heavy rotation--thus exposing a new generation to it....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 16, 2017 03:17 PM (7uYFy)

514
Fried Zucchini Sticks are my favorite appetizer.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 03:17 PM (8gTsX)

515

I likk turtles

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 03:17 PM (8gTsX)

516 I think condemning people for wanting to avoid Game of Thrones because they feel it might harm their soul is as foolish as those who think its evil and nobody ever should watch it no matter what.

People are different. What makes you shrug in indifference or walk away unscathed might have a profound effect on them. The acoholic has a much harder time watching a beer commercial than the teetotaler.

What doesn't bother you may cause someone else a lot of trouble, and vice versa. It isn't right to just condemn them for their stance on a subject or situation. And who knows, maybe something is hurting you more than you know or have considered, so its worth examining.

This is where the whole judge not thing comes from: its not saying "don't judge" its saying "judge only from a spirit of humility, charity, and concern." Love who you judge, don't think you're better than them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 03:17 PM (39g3+)

517
Geek culture used to be folk. Its being turned into pop. And that's not good. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 16, 2017 03:08 PM (39g3+)
=====

Yeah, ^^^ this^^^. I must say that 'pop' is death to fun and stretching for artistry.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 16, 2017 03:18 PM (MIKMs)

518 Good lord...I do not watch Game of Thrones. It's not my thing. But it stops there. Clearly it is a thing for lots of other people and that's fine by me.

People like this snob are the problem. The problem with too many people is the fact that they are nosy busybodies. If people decided to just stop the impulse to be nosy busybodies, a great deal of strife and discord would simply die.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 16, 2017 03:21 PM (caUMH)

519 Why would you be helping such a person in the first place?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 16, 2017 03:12 PM (8gTsX)


Remember the old expression about you can choose your friends but not your family? Recent arrival to family. Originally welcomed with open arms.

I've been willing in the past to slough off the lack of social skills, the narcissism, the elitism, the left wing talking points as just immaturity. But on a day like that, in that heat and humidity, with absolutely no recognition of the conditions we were working under, I could not stop that finger from displaying itself in all it's glory.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 03:21 PM (EgwCt)

520
The problem is not who was chosen, bu why the BBC chose who they did.

Posted by: Time and Relative Dimensions in Hats at July 16, 2017 02:57 PM (vBeA5)


Exactly. I eyeroll at the virtue-signalling by BBC, Chibnall (new showrunner), and everyone else who are finally satisfied they got what they wanted.

I want to see what he and she does with it. This last Doctor wasn't my favorite, and the stories until this last season weren't very good, and there's not a lot of enthusiasm left for the show. It might not last no matter Who (SWIDT?) grabs the screwdriver.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 16, 2017 03:23 PM (17QyB)

521 Small market team from The Bronx with limited payroll crawling its way back into playoff contention over the Big Budget Bullies from Boston.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 16, 2017 03:24 PM (pV/54)

522 Time for a cute animal photo:
--

I saw that a few days ago.

It's all good until you read what happens when the maternal hormones wear off...

Posted by: shibumi at July 16, 2017 03:24 PM (aT+Bx)

523 Love who you judge, don't think you're better than them.
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That's a pretty good way of putting it.

Posted by: Methos at July 16, 2017 03:24 PM (3Liv/)

524 Also true is the pilot was so crappy at reporting that other planes were sent to get better information.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 16, 2017 02:54 PM (e1mEI)

I had never before heard that Nagumo required confirmation/second set of eyes on the report before taking action on it.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 03:26 PM (brIR5)

525 Can't stay, but I want to chime in on this: "exposing yourself to the worst excesses of rot will change your ability to function in a moral and ethical manner"

This is nonsense. I've seen and heard some terrible things in my life; things that come with dealing with intelligence in the Middle East. Murder. Torture. People being ripped apart. Child pornography. Things I wish I'd never experienced and wish I could forget, but you never do... not really. Every so often, you get reminded. And more is likely coming in my future.

And not fake bullshit in a television series, either.

And yet, somehow, I manage to not be evil, because I'm not a fucking robot or animal who simply imitates whatever he sees. I'm a living human with a mind and a soul who is responsible for his own decisions and capable of discerning evil.

And I absolutely, completely reject any assertions to the contrary. I have moral agency. And seeing what evil can be doesn't make me more likely to do it. It makes the good stand out more strongly.

Posted by: Apostate at July 16, 2017 03:30 PM (TFnkQ)

526 Nood

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 16, 2017 03:32 PM (89T5c)

527 This is an article from nearly 20 years ago, when the 'epidemic' of Asperger/Autism first began to appear. These youngsters are now hitting our colleges and the administrators are falling all over themselves to accommodate them.

https://www.wired.com/2001/12/aspergers/

I'm reminded of the premise of 'Wayward Pines' when the first aberrations or 'abbies' appear and someone says 'holy shit' and mothballs an entire community of people to re-inhabit the earth after the 'abbies' time is over.

Spoiler alert:

It gets ugly.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 03:36 PM (EgwCt)

528 Does sweet pickle relish have a place on the modern hotdog?

Yes. Right next to the ketchup.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at July 16, 2017 03:38 PM (5muuD)

529 8
I quit reading the books after the first one because I knew that every
character would be screwed over. I'm not going to waste my time reading
depressing fiction when reality continues to be depressing enough. And
yes I got my fill of Humans being sick and evil just by reading Iris
Chang's The Rape of Nanking.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (Wja0c)

...
I only scanned the comments, I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but George RR Martin has built an entire career trolling fans of the "heroic fantasy" genre. Literally trolling them. This is why all of the interesting characters get screwed over, and often gruesomely. Martin does that deliberately ... and why he will likely never finish the series - one last trolling of his own fans.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at July 16, 2017 03:39 PM (U3sWw)

530 Eh - I get the fun of banging on humorless would-be cultural arbiters - but this 55 year-old thinks that Walther has a point - almost all movies and most of TV are generally awful. They are aimed at the Asian market or at 17 year-old aspergy dudes whose sensibilities have been shaped by video games, tech and porn.

Or, they are being made for 8 year-old girls.

As far as GoT goes, I never really got over S1E1 with the incest and the crippling of a child. GRRM has a real gift, but he is corrupted by his weakness for gratuitous porn.

The good news is that there's gold in some of that long-form T.V. That's what's being made for adults.

Posted by: John J Mac at July 16, 2017 03:40 PM (0LU6Q)

531 528 Does sweet pickle relish have a place on the modern hotdog?

Yes. Right next to the ketchup.
Posted by: JQ Flyover at July 16, 2017 03:38 PM (5muuD)


You misspelled mustard.

DIE, HERETIC.

Posted by: rickl at July 16, 2017 03:41 PM (sdi6R)

532 Snopes rates this as true.

So do all of the Standard (and not so Standard) Histories of the battle.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 16, 2017 03:44 PM (brIR5)

533 Once again, fvck yourself.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 03:10 PM (EgwCt)

There aren't very many rules around here, but you just broke one of them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 03:45 PM (wYseH)

534 meh. Is television still a thing, this century?

Yeah, I couldn't resist.

Posted by: Fritz at July 16, 2017 03:55 PM (eLttb)

535 This sort of thing goes on all the time, and I don't see what's so special about the guy's view. Orwell has a famous essay about Dali that is somewhat similar--although Orwell's complaint has a lot to do with the kind of person Dali was in real life, not just the decadence of his painting.

Be that as it may, I suspect CBD's personal ox is getting gored.

"But has anyone suggested that it has some evil intent, some nefarious
message that will drive the coarsening of the culture? No, because most
of us are sort of adult about our entertainments, and understand that it
is fiction"

This is a straw man.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at July 16, 2017 03:58 PM (vJCwr)

536 Once again, fvck yourself. This was a situation where I was helping the person out on a 95 degree day with 95% humidity. Six hours into the project my shirt and shorts was soaked to the skin. Instead of offering a glass of water, I was offered nothing but criticism and some grand pronouncements on the persons part of how important they are, how he/she had such a great degree at such a great school, how Trump is such a reprobate, Governor Perry is such a stooge, the entire left wing propaganda stream of consciousness.

These are our 'betters' now. Maybe yours. Not mine.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 03:10 PM (EgwCt)

Ah, now the plot thickens, lol.

Of course they are not "betters." That's your own prejudice against this one guy. But they are human beings with an actual disability that is not always within their control, and it should be taken into account, just as you wouldn't expect a person with one arm to be as deft moving a desk as another co-worker.

Well, telling people to fuck off evidently makes you feel better, so I hope that you do.

Governor Perry?


Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 03:59 PM (uaHyk)

537 There aren't very many rules around here, but you just broke one of them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 16, 2017 03:45 PM (wYseH)


site:acecomments.mu.nu fvck (wYseH) (First result)

Sorry Bruce, but fvck you for criticizing the country and political system that made you a billionaire. And fvck you for cheating on your wife. And fvck you for being a tax cheat. And fvck you for shitting on the cops of NYC who protect you at your shows.

And mostly...fvck you for being a fraud and living in a $20,000,000 house on the shore and owning a huge estate in horse country and pretending to be a working man.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 22, 2017 10:23 PM (wYseH)


Huh? Or is it because it was directed at someone here?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 04:03 PM (EgwCt)

538 Governor Perry?
Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 03:59 PM (uaHyk)


This person, elitist to the core, patiently described to me that the new head of the Department of Energy (former Gov. Perry) has to have briefings 'dumbed down'.

While the former head of the DOE was an active participant in the Iran cash payoff. Which is at sometime in the future going to raise a mushroom cloud somewhere in the world.

Sorry, but I have little patience with this person and you. I'll try not to let CBD influence my choice of misspelled words in the future.

You *still* need to do some indeterminate something with yourself.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 04:11 PM (EgwCt)

539 But they are human beings with an actual disability that is not always within their control, and it should be taken into account, just as you wouldn't expect a person with one arm to be as deft moving a desk as another co-worker.
Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 03:59 PM (uaHyk)


I'm coming back to this because it's important. Aspergers/Autism (AA) is referred to as a 'spectrum' -- because it is all over the map.

Some people are 'high functioning' and some people are 'low functioning' and some in between. The person I'm referring to is obviously high functioning. It should be well within this persons capabilities to moderate the actions that others have warned him/her repeatedly about.

So, in high functioning AA individuals I do not see it so much as a disability as taking advantage. A poker game where they don't have to make eye contact, can ignore questions, ignore comments, act rudely, be obtuse, get up and walk away. Okay behavior in poker, maybe, but infuriating in real life.

Sorry, but when I make eye contact, see some variation of the 1000's of facial expressions available, I can make decisions as to deceit, or truth, or laughter, joy, regret, etc. I'm denied that.

I like playing by the rules. I win often. A lot of times. I don't like it when someone -- who can certainly moderate their actions -- hides behind the opaque curtain of 'disability' to gain advantage.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 04:27 PM (EgwCt)

540 Lighten up, Francis. The guy doesn't like a the TV show and he wrote a critical review. That's all. Full disclosure, I'll never watch Game of Thrones. But the observation that popular culture these days is adolescent seems to ring true in a world where our biggest movies are based on comic books.

Posted by: Jim at July 16, 2017 04:30 PM (rnwV8)

541 525 -

Apologies in advance for getting all tent-revivaly in here . . .

But this is nonsense. The notion that nothing influences you because you have moral agency is mistaken. Influence is subtle; we have a real capacity for self-deception in this area.

We read all manner of materials for self improvement and believe that art can elevate. Surely it can do the opposite.

We are not disembodied intellects rationally responding to stimuli, at least not always. We have hearts as well as minds, and both can be poisoned and corrupted.

We have to be on guard about who we associate with. Same principle is relevant regarding what we read and watch.

Reasonable people can disagree about where the lines are. But it's not reasonable to suggest that no one is influenced by what they consume, and that those people don't go on to influence others.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 16, 2017 04:37 PM (H5knJ)

542 You *still* need to do some indeterminate something with yourself.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 04:11 PM (EgwCt)

So this person is gaming the system by claiming to be on the spectrum?

Because if he is actually an Aspie, he really can't always control himself. You said it yourself, their brains are literally wired differently. That's not to say he's not an ass, because, sure, high-functioning autistics can be jerks.

Just like neurotypicals.

I'm going shopping, so I'll have to table your next GFY for about four hours.

Enjoy your Sunday!

Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 04:53 PM (uaHyk)

543 This is nonsense. I've seen and heard some terrible things in my life; things that come with dealing with intelligence in the Middle East. Murder. Torture. People being ripped apart. Child pornography. Things I wish I'd never experienced and wish I could forget, but you never do... not really. Every so often, you get reminded. And more is likely coming in my future.

---

You saw these things as part of your job, i.e. for a good purpose. You didn't seek them out for entertainment. That's a big difference.

Everyone has free will, but everyone is fallible.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 16, 2017 04:53 PM (4fVn8)

544 I have to disagree with this post. I got through the first season of GoT and said "OK, that's enough incest, rape, decapitation, child abuse and torture-murder to last me. Don't think I need more of that."

Never looked back.

Posted by: Offended Man at July 16, 2017 05:23 PM (RgdV2)

545 529 8
I quit reading the books after the first one because I knew that every
character would be screwed over. I'm not going to waste my time reading
depressing fiction when reality continues to be depressing enough. And
yes I got my fill of Humans being sick and evil just by reading Iris
Chang's The Rape of Nanking.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 16, 2017 11:59 AM (Wja0c)

Any serious study of history (as you pointed out) reveals FAR worse than anything depicted in GoT. Or any other fiction, for that matter. Being a veteran and having an M.A. in history has truly resulted in having a very dark sense of humor. Being exposed to the dark side of humanity for a long time does things to you.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 16, 2017 05:36 PM (caUMH)

546 Calm down CBD. You're coming off defensive. I read this post in a screaming voice because of the tone.

If you'd read the other dude's piece instead of the headline you'd know he's writing from a Christian perspective. Not a ban all the things perspective.

If you disagree, that's cool. Ok.



Posted by: PBJ1515 at July 16, 2017 06:41 PM (TkdTA)

547 Posted by: Gem at July 16, 2017 04:53 PM (uaHyk)

So this person is gaming the system by claiming to be on the spectrum?

I don't think 'is claiming'. Is on the spectrum -- and knows the degrees both my wife and I hold and has been very good at hiding those clues for a while. But using their 'abilities' -- which aren't all necessarily bad (in game playing scenarios anyway) to advantage. Which tends to be a huge problem for me. People either are or you aren't, or maybe somewhere in between. If you are, you should consider that having children is probably not statistically a completely safe choice depending on partner. Especially (to me) if political leanings are to the left and having a problematic child is not something the left is known for lovingly supporting to the end. Two parents, one only slightly leaning, one more or less solidly in the middle of the spectrum puts the risk factor a couple of standard deviations closer to the bullseye of 'assured'. Which I would almost surely end up paying for in some fashion. Either through child support or payments to caregiver or special schooling for a decade or more. I'm not that wealthy. I don't have that much time left, nor does my wife, who would probably be willing to devote her final days to what could be a lost cause. I'm the proactive type, definitely not so good at expensive reactive. I'm not a completely heartless bastid either. Rock and hard place.

Because if he is actually an Aspie, he really can't always control himself. You said it yourself, their brains are literally wired differently. That's not to say he's not an ass, because, sure, high-functioning autistics can be jerks. Just like neurotypicals.

It's not exaggerating to claim this person is becoming the biggest horses ass I've met in my life. If Obama is the 'Gold Standard' he/she is running neck and neck. Cluelessly. Perhaps. Or perhaps the parents had the person tested as a child and have known all along. It's only through exposure that clues get dropped, more and more, every time. Each time clunking to the ground with a heavier 'thud'. They say that people are on the best behavior during dating. Well the dating is over as well as the best behavior. If behavior can be controlled during dating, why not now? I keep coming back to that question.

I'm going shopping, so I'll have to table your next GFY for about four hours. Enjoy your Sunday!

I'll delay the next GFY in your absence. Probably check tomorrow for your reply. I've really needed to vent on this. So thanks and a hearty GFY.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 16, 2017 06:48 PM (EgwCt)

548 History boring? You ain't met the clans MacDonald, Campbell, Stuart or Douglas.

Google the Glencoe massacre, the Black Wedding or Kirk o' Field.

And that's just Scotland.

Then there's the GoT worthy cast of characters, skullduggery and plot twists Historian Matthew Lewis, reveals in "The Wars of The Roses: The Key Players in the Struggle for Supremacy".

http://www.historyextra.com/article/military-history/12-facts-wars-roses

107 How dumb was John Snow to run in and attack Ramsey's army by himself? How many of his men did he kill by that move? Posted by: Leo Spaceman at July 16, 2017 12:38 PM (1pq54)

See Towton or Flodden.

Meanwhile, The War of the League of Cambrai featured a nest of vipers in the Agustusan mold, was raging in Italy.

btw- I read the books as they were released and enjoyed them immensely (couldn't get through The Winds of Winter) and lost interest in the HBO production mid-way through season 2. No particular reason other than the deja vu one has when the books have a more complete story arc than a film or series.

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at July 16, 2017 06:53 PM (TdCQk)

549 Just let me watch me trashy TV shows in peace, haters.

Posted by: sinalco at July 16, 2017 07:10 PM (yODqO)

550 1. I am a nerd. And whatever you might want to call a more general consumer and critic of sci-fi/fantasy/horror/whatever other sub-genre you want to throw into that.

2. GOT really does suck. The characters are repugnant, the story has long since bogged down in irrelevant distractions, obscure sub-plots, inane diversions, gratuitous pr0n, even more gratuitous torture pr0n, and just plain meandering. The books are, somehow, worse.
Most of that is due to GRRM, who, if you read Wild Cards back in the day, has a history of riding a story to fangasmic heights, getting bored with it, trashing the characters in egregious ways, and then wandering off to create some new sensation.

3. Of course most all of the previous is just personal aesthetics, and for every person who will endorse that view there are, rather clearly, a hundred others who will insist that GOT is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I am a cretinous cretin of a critic.

4. All of that said, that screed is just plain factually wrong as to content and culture.
Half a century ago we had The Wild Bunch (1969) for raw violence, blue movie (1969) for raw sex, and The Devils (1971) for both on steroids. (Which technically fall short by 2-4 years, but those are the ones I remember or find (for blue movie) with a quick search.)
Two decades ago HBO had Perversions of Science, a spinoff from Tales from the Crypt which premiered in 1989, and was revived because of the success of The Hitchhiker, which began in 1983. On the porn front, HBO was showing Real Sex starting in 1992.
Movies as violent and perverted as GOT were conceived, produced, and released half a century ago, and watching things like GOT two decades ago meant you were one of the "cool kids" whose parents let you watch ALL of HBO.
Far from GOT presaging our cultural decadence, been there, done that, not particularly impressed with the million dollar budget GOT has to do the same thing.

5. So just to be clear, he is neither smarter nor better than others when it comes to knowing the genre(s), leaving him with only his self-assumed moral supremacy and nagging.

Posted by: Sam at July 16, 2017 07:14 PM (jHN2F)

551 Anyone here read David Gemmel, died a couple of years way before his time. His books featured a barbarian called Druss made Conan a piker. This could be a great movie.

Posted by: drunkineastmesa at July 16, 2017 08:39 PM (UQA08)

552 The first season was great, Sean Bean bringing a gravitas to the role of a patriarch guided by a warrior code of honour, tradition and family which bring conflict when drawn into the ruthless court of politics, intrigue, and deviancy. Meanwhile, a malevolent perennial force coalesces, winter is coming. Something that people can identify with, being true to ones values yet being a survivor, amidst a larger cosmic spiritual battle.
After Beans departure, the series lost its anchor, and turned into a cruel revenge tragedy. It never had the clarity of the first season.

Posted by: potadas at July 16, 2017 08:44 PM (PyV7v)

553 Actually, the admonition quoted from Mathew's gospel refers to judging the ultimate fate of someone's soul. There is no Christian moral teaching that forbids disapproval of someone's behavior or taste in fiction.

Posted by: Arnold at July 16, 2017 10:39 PM (dyozU)

554 45 > "WOW! You read the article. Way to get ahead of the bell shaped curve."

I denounce myself. If I can't trust an AoS'r to mangle or manipulate info at least as well as the Legacy Media ... then I might as well read the Newspaper of Record for my info.

Posted by: omeone who din't major in history at July 17, 2017 12:27 AM (rv12I)

555 ... therefore you should ignore degeneracy because I am a libertarian.

Posted by: Rhino at July 17, 2017 12:05 PM (qfO5p)

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