Supreme Court Rules State Cannot Discriminate Against Religious Schools

Gorsuch strikes twice.

The case involved grants made generally available to all schools in the state for refurbishment of run-down playgrounds. But then the state ruled that, while these funds were appropriated for all schools, religious schools nonetheless had to be affirmatively discriminated against, because you can't have government money ever going to icky religious schools (even if the money is not specifically to advance religion, but is just another state boondoggle of taxpayer cash for hard-to-argue-against feelgood spending programs).

Gorsuch and six other justices said Nah, brah.

The justices ruled 7-2 that Missouri stretched the constitutional separation of church and state too far by declaring a Lutheran church ineligible to receive a competitive state grant for playground resurfacing. The decision could have implications for more than 30 states that block public funds from going to religious organizations.
Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the decision. Only Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.
Even though the state's denial of funds likely would lead only to "a few extra scraped knees," Roberts said, "the exclusion of Trinity Lutheran from a public benenfit for which it is otherwise qualified, solely because it is a church, is odious to our Constitution all the same, and cannot stand."
...
"It does seem as though ... this is a clear burden on a constitutional right," liberal Justice Elena Kagan said then, in reference to the state's refusal to treat Trinity Lutheran Church equally to other non-profits seeking state grants. The church had met all the neutral criteria for the program.
Gorsuch and Justice Clarence Thomas would have gone further than Roberts, who suggested in a footnote to the court's decision that the case "involves express discrimination based on religious identity with respect to playground resurfacing. We do not address religious uses of funding or other forms of discrimination."
Gorsuch wrote: "The general principles here do not permit discrimination against religious exercise -- whether on the playground or anywhere else."

So once more: Gorsuch would have gone farther.

No John Roberts taint on this one.

As Craig Ferguson used to say, it's a great day in America.

Posted by: Ace at 01:33 PM

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1 Hooooleee.

Wowsers.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:34 PM (MINbv)

2 Oh, and TEXAS.

(instead of first. So there)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:34 PM (MINbv)

3 Top ten baby!!

Posted by: Country Boy at June 26, 2017 01:35 PM (Jcg9Q)

4 This was they one that Sotomayer was super pissed off about, wasn't it? Heh.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 01:36 PM (a0IVu)

5 This isn't a surprising decision. In the interests of safety school buses can transport parochial school students. Non-religious, non-instruction.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Carries ACME Products for Our Democrat Customers! at June 26, 2017 01:36 PM (hLRSq)

6 Sotomayor's dissent was downright embarrassing in its whining and immaturity. Like something you would read in Teen Vogue or Jezebel.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2017 01:37 PM (OD2ni)

7 #4,
I believe so.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:37 PM (MINbv)

8 Hillary Clinton will never be President. Trump made a good SCOTUS pick, and now we're increasing border security.

He's already reached the threshold that most people had in supporting him. From here on out, Trump's playing with house money.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 26, 2017 01:37 PM (KUaJL)

9 Kagan?

Really?

I'm surprised.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2017 01:37 PM (PFy0L)

10 Let's be honest, if some case came before the Court involving simply banning all Christian Churches, Ruth Bader Ginsberg would have some tortured reason to support that sort of ban.

Can't wait to sing "ding dong the witch is dead!"

Posted by: Maritime at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (IDhq0)

11 Winning Status:

[ ] Tired.

[x] Other than tired.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (Gh/jd)

12 We need to start trolling every leftist in America to commit suicide. Apparently, online goading to kill yourself works pretty effectively, if recent reports are anything to go by.

Because if I was a lefty right now, I be soooooo depressed, that suicide is starting to look like a viable option. And such a person needs to go all the way is a little encouragement.

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (DQ4Fv)

13 This was they one that Sotomayer was super pissed off about, wasn't it? Heh.

-
About a 7 on the Richter scale; same as her IQ.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (Nwg0u)

14 Now it's a good day.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (J+eG2)

15 So once more: Gorsuch would have gone farther.

Winning status:

[ ] tired of it
[X] not tired yet

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (PduNE)

16 So does Sotomayor hate religion in general, Christians, or just Lutherans?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (Hk/NM)

17 Man, I miss Craig Ferguson.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (B+qrE)

18 And such a person = And ALL such a person

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 01:39 PM (DQ4Fv)

19 BREAKING: Supreme Court Joins Trump in Continuing Assault on American Values

Posted by: This...is CNN at June 26, 2017 01:39 PM (qJhUV)

20 Hoo boy. This decision will be legendary in the left's pantheon of "what's wrong with America".

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2017 01:39 PM (jhqr1)

21 So does Sotomayor hate religion in general, Christians, or just Lutherans?"

Hmm. Might be the Jello.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:39 PM (MINbv)

22 Spittle and rage. Spittle and rage.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 26, 2017 01:39 PM (BC5E+)

23 This case should have been unanimous.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)

24 This was an open and shut case that should not have had to make this far. putting recycled shredded tire material on a playground in no way advances religion.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (mpXpK)

25 Irony to Sotomayor's dissent is that she went to Catholic schools in The Bronx, which was her springboard to going to Princeton. Gratitude, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (+7/1f)

26 "So does Sotomayor hate religion in general, Christians, or just Lutherans?"

The ones with the carrots in the orange jello.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (J+eG2)

27 Theocracy is descending upon us all.

WARGARBLE!!

/s

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (jhqr1)

28 Wow Kagan went along ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (5y11N)

29 No John Roberts taint on this one.

Is that taint as in 'odor' or 'spoor', or taint as in the anatomical region?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (DMUuz)

30 I don't like the idea of government grants being a "constitutional right," but I guess its still good to see a win for religious liberty

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (rX06+)

31 Now if only fortune would conspire so that Trump can nominate someone to replace Ginsburg and Kennedy, that my friends would be winning.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (Gh/jd)

32 26
So the green one with cottage cheese is okay with her?

Posted by: Bruce at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (0oDnb)

33 So once more: Gorsuch would have gone farther.

No John Roberts taint on this one.

I like. But, once bitten (it's a tax!), twice shy.

As Craig Ferguson used to say, it's a great day in America.

Or, as AtC would say,

Bingo.

Bango.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (X6fMO)

34 putting recycled shredded tire material on a playground in no way advances religion."

"Sooner or later... you'll own General"

So how was Jeb! going to make this happen?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (MINbv)

35 Seems like the Supreme Court is experiencing Climate Change.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (J+eG2)

36 I miss Craig Ferguson. He was a good guy. I hope he's enjoying his payout but I'd rather have him on the Tonight Show.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (3OIiX)

37 This one wasn't unanimous but 7-2. "Fractured" one reporter called it heh

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (39g3+)

38 Those crafty Lutherans, they got to Gorsuch!

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (RD7QR)

39 12. For shame. Encouraging these lefties to liberate themselves and step forever out if the horrors of the Trumpageddon and into the peace of oblivion, while also performing an act of protest that would inspire others by their dedication.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (TwwWO)

40 There is a giant tire fire separating church and state.

--Stuff Jefferson Said Among the Voices in Sotomayor's Head.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (B+qrE)

41 6 Sotomayor's dissent was downright embarrassing in its whining and immaturity. Like something you would read in Teen Vogue or Jezebel.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2017 01:37 PM (OD2ni)

When even Elena Bulldyke acknowledges that a playground is just a playground....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (ujg0T)

42 It's not a tax?

Posted by: wth at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (HgMAr)

43 The left literally WANTS children to get hurt on concrete playgrounds -- just so long as those children are Christian children.

Every argument the left ever makes is disingenuous. They claim high principles when their side benefits, and then do a complete reverse if the other side benefits.

Everything about the Left is beneath contempt.

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (DQ4Fv)

44 I guess the Aztec only pays for goods with credit cards, since the currency has 'God' on it?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (7ZVPa)

45 Finally. Thank you.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (lwiT4)

46 6 Sotomayor's dissent was downright embarrassing in its whining and immaturity. Like something you would read in Teen Vogue or Jezebel.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2017 01:37 PM (OD2ni)
--

I can imagine all the conservatives rolling their eye's as she reads it and at the end Chief Roberts "Okaaaay then..moving on"

Posted by: WisRich at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (G0vdT)

47 30 I don't like the idea of government grants being a "constitutional right," but I guess its still good to see a win for religious liberty
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (rX06+)

It's more of an equal application of the law.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (7QnCd)

48 putting recycled shredded tire material on a playground in no way advances religion.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (mpXpK)

But only atheists use tires, Vic. Didn't you know that?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (PduNE)

49 We have to keep track of the suicides to make sure they don't vote any more.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (BC5E+)

50 Is that taint as in 'odor' or 'spoor', or taint as in the anatomical region?"

T'aint no reason for him to open his fat trap.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (MINbv)

51 35
Seems like the Supreme Court is experiencing Climate Change.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (J+eG2)

Instead of seawaters rising, it's the left's temper. Love it.

Like what I've seen from Gorsuch so far. Let's hope he doesn't come down with a case of "Souter".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (jxbfJ)

52 Or, as AtC would say,

Bingo.

Bango.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2017 01:41 PM (X6fMO)

Bongo. Kangaroo!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (3OIiX)

53 25
Irony to Sotomayor's dissent is that she went to Catholic schools in The
Bronx, which was her springboard to going to Princeton. Gratitude, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (+7/1f)

she really doesn't give a shit about the merits of the case. All she see is a chance to support the liberals who put her on the bench.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (mpXpK)

54 Read the dissent that Gorsuch and Thomas wrote on the Denial of certiorari for Peruta v California.

You will get a woody or hard nipples if you choose.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (M3pAJ)

55 OMG! IT'S THE HANDMAID'S TALE!

- Every fruity prog everywhere

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (Nwg0u)

56 "So the green one with cottage cheese is okay with her?"

Maybe not her favorite, but I like it.

With the mini marshmallows and pineapple in it?

Mix some pistachio instant pudding powder in there too.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (J+eG2)

57 The State Constitution is what prevented State money from going to any Church.

So the Supremes just invalidated part of a longstanding State Constitutional prohibition.... one that is popular enough that it has something like it in 30 of our 50 States...

Once again.... they take a POLICY issue of how we spend money, and somehow morph it into a Civil Rights issue... making Policy... about money... and spending...

Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (NgKpN)

58 Interestingly, both this and the Muslim ban (shorthand) cases involve religion, with the Left wrong in both cases. They're all for religion when it involves foreigners, but dead set against it when it involves Americans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (YmDtf)

59 The modern left and the soto justice hate (or dislike) and disagree with anything Christian. Sad really.

Posted by: USNtakim at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (zZWkn)

60 I almost think its a mistake how conservative justices are always looking for consensus and bring along liberal judges.

If you have the votes, get a 5-4 decision and start becoming "conservative activist".

A liberal court won't give two shits about any of this if they ever get the votes.

Posted by: Maritime at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (IDhq0)

61 @ace: "As Craig Ferguson used to say, it's a great day in America."

Craig Ferguson should still be saying as host of the Late Show rather than Colbert.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (3Vlkn)

62 someone is pissed about the reformation

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (nFwvY)

63 So does Sotomayor hate religion in general, Christians, or just Lutherans?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 01:38 PM (Hk/NM)

She's a leftist. "Religion" is one of those quirky cultural things, like pinning money on a statue of the Virgin and should only be publicly expressed at the whim of the state.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (X6fMO)

64 He's already reached the threshold that most people had in supporting him. From here on out, Trump's playing with house money.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at June 26, 2017 01:37 PM (KUaJL)

This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 01:44 PM (YmDtf)

65 My dick says it's not tired of #winning.

It will, however, pay me the money it owes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 26, 2017 01:44 PM (Tnhbr)

66 Irony to Sotomayor's dissent is that she went to Catholic schools in The

Bronx, which was her springboard to going to Princeton. Gratitude, no?

I will make you pay for that, bitch!

Posted by: Jesus at June 26, 2017 01:44 PM (qJhUV)

67 The modern left and the soto justice hate (or dislike) and disagree with anything Christian. Sad really.
Posted by: USNtakim

_____

I honestly believe that is the main animus driving the Left.

You look at any of their super donors, and they almost always have some strong anti-Christian sentiment.

Posted by: Maritime at June 26, 2017 01:44 PM (IDhq0)

68 The Gorsuch Strikes Back.
Return of the Jebi.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (xAvrH)

69 12 We need to start trolling every leftist in America to commit suicide.

A young lady just got sentenced to a long stay in the pokey for doing that. So, no.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (ul9CR)

70 20 Hoo boy. This decision will be legendary in the left's pantheon of "what's wrong with America".

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2017 01:39 PM (jhqr1)

And with that, let me suit up and go see what our friends at DU(I) have to say about this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (YmDtf)

71 And I, Ulysses Grant, order another salvo of cannon fire into the besieged city of Petersburg, on the occasion of this news of another victory.

Coexist with us winners, losers, or suffer the wrath of our mighty pens and phones!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (WpPbD)

72 Ace, where is the "Chicago lesbians expel gay Jews from Pride Parade" thread? That's the most interesting story today.

Straight-up, unapologetic anti-Semitism. Leaders of the gay march literally told the Jews "This movement (i.e. homosexuality) is pro-Palestinian. We don't want you here." Beyond belief.

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

73
Did Jesus play hopscotch? I think not!

$$$ to Jesuslanders are a direct threat to me and my MooSlim buddies.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (pNxlR)

74 Does this mean Ginsburg and Sotomayor fail the Lemon test?

I mean:
1. The primary purpose is clearly secular (how is playground surfacing religious in nature)
2. The grand neither promotes nor inhibits religion (see 1.)
3. There is no church/state entanglement

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (jhqr1)

75 Read the opinion. It isn't an open right to state money for religious organizations. It's couched in circumstances.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (M3pAJ)

76 That idiot atheist group for WI (?) will come in and sue to shut the playground down.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (mpXpK)

77 I don't like the idea of government grants being a "constitutional right
===========================

I don't think they were saying that grants are a constitutional right. I think they were saying, parochial schools are allowed to apply for any pertinent grants, and that they should not be denied access to grant money simply on the basis of religion. In other words, they get to compete alongside everyone else.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 01:46 PM (lwiT4)

78 I'd be curious as to how this was being played in the Missouri legislature. I read that Greitens was going to say the state would no longer allow this type of ban to occur, but usually this is the sort of thing that, once the legislature gets its mitts on it, they'll pass a new law with an overwhelming veto-proof majority that even Nixon, when he was Guv, couldn't prevent.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

79 So if this were a Mosque, would it have been unanimous, instead of 7-2?

If so....why.

Show your work.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:46 PM (J+eG2)

80 Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (NgKpN

You want them to rule on State's restrictions on the 2nd amendment or do you want to have them leave that alone too?

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 01:46 PM (7QnCd)

81 So Gorsuch is to the right of Roberts, and Alito and possibly even Thomas.

One more appointment, and Roberts, not Kennedy is the swing vote.

Another, and it's Alito!

Developing ....

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (+7/1f)

82 I don't grok homosexual pride parades. Its just... what the?? And now they're some kind of participation trophy event where politicians and celebrities go along to show how progressive they are.

You're proud of wanting to take it up the cocoa factory? Uh.... good for you? I guess?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (39g3+)

83 Odd, the SC is supposed to be apolitical, yet it seemed to dip liberal under Obama. Definitely something behind the scenes. Hopefully that influence is gone.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (xAvrH)

84 I honestly believe that is the main animus driving the Left.

You look at any of their super donors, and they almost always have some strong anti-Christian sentiment.

Posted by: Maritime at June 26, 2017 01:44 PM (IDhq0)

There is a real foaming at the mouth hatred of Christianity by the left. Probably due to them being commies. Their blind spot on the religion of pieces and what they'd do to the left if they got into power is part of the left's hatred of Christianity.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (493sH)

85 I'm a Lutheran, orthodox and practicing.

I just got the signal from Lutheran World Headquarters. We won.

The Lutheran Strike Force can pack away our Splodey-vests, put the kitchen knives back into the drawers, and use our pressure cookers for making bland, over-cooked food for potlucks.

.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (uBKPR)

86 From here on out, Trump's playing with house money."

*chews on that for a few minutes*

You know, that's a pretty darn good way to look at the administration so far.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (MINbv)

87 So does this mean Amazon and Apple will go out of business now? I was led to believe that without Sudanese refugees these companies couldn't keep the lights on.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:48 PM (JN/qv)

88 Every Republican senator who voted to confirm Sotomayor needs to be primaries and booted from office.

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 01:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

89 to be primaries = to be primaried

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 01:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

90 Hoo boy. This decision will be legendary in the left's pantheon of "what's wrong with America".

-
THEIR TREATING CHRISTIANS LIKE PEOPLE! THIS CANNOT STAND!

- Bank Fraud Bernie and his charming ~~accomplice~~ wife

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 01:49 PM (Nwg0u)

91 So, no.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (ul9CR)

Aside from the fact that we are not them, and we are winning.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 01:49 PM (tbOMB)

92 I guess the Left could make the same argument we make with defunding Planned Parenthood and claim the money is fungible.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 01:49 PM (7QnCd)

93 The left literally WANTS children to get hurt on concrete playgrounds -- just so long as those children are Christian children.

I think there's some preliminary research that those little rubber pellets you see on turf fields coming in contact with open cuts has a correlation to higher cancer risk.

So this shredded tire stuff might not be harmless.

But that link isn't solid at this time.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2017 01:49 PM (jhqr1)

94 You're proud of wanting to take it up the cocoa factory?"

Ah dude, Zombie is here today. We don't need more pics from the Folsom Street Fair.

Or white ottomans...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:49 PM (MINbv)

95 No John Roberts taint on this one.

++++

My taint will not be ignored.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at June 26, 2017 01:49 PM (WzbqD)

96 Gorsuch: "...does not permit discrimination against religious exercise...". Ha! ISWHDT

Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (AbWir)

97 Most of the justices who denied certiorari on Peruta knew precisely where that case was going. You can't create schemes and nuances to deny people their Second Amendment rights. And those rights are not limited to the home.

It would have been the death of any "may issue" scheme in places like NY and Cali.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (M3pAJ)

98 Wonder if the SCOTUS is slow rolling some of the other cases in hope that the President gets to fill another seat or two before the cases come up?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (J+eG2)

99 "Now if only fortune would conspire so that Trump can nominate someone to
replace Ginsburg and Kennedy, that my friends would be winning."

Sotomayor may have a comparatively short tenure.

The Wise Latina has The Beetus. And she's fat. Not a combo which confers comfortable longevity.

Things which were obvious, and widely known, at the time Obama nominated her, but Historic First couldn't resist another identity-politics Historic First, even one with health problems that might preclude decades of long service.

If Kennedy retires of his own volition, and Ruth Baader-Meinhof kicks the bucket, and Sotomayor has diabetic complications which compel a medical retirement... it's Katy bar the door. (Katy Tur bar the door?)

But just imagine if Clinton were picking all those replacements!

Posted by: torquewrench at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (ujwCG)

100 86 From here on out, Trump's playing with house money."

*chews on that for a few minutes*

You know, that's a pretty darn good way to look at the administration so far.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (MINbv)

I don't think so until they begin construction on the Wall.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (7QnCd)

101 Disagree with zombie re: primaries on Sotomayer votes.

They do, however, need to be pulled aside and told "Look, Slick, you'll be voting for whomever Trump puts up next on Supreme Court. Capice? And don't give him any more lip, see. Or we'ze'll primary your ass.
"

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (uBKPR)

102 Can't wait to see the retarded knobgobbler Jay Inslee's face on the evening news tonight.

#Winning!

Posted by: Under Fire at June 26, 2017 01:51 PM (l4aLi)

103 I was led to believe that without Sudanese refugees these companies couldn't keep the lights on."

Don't forget Charbucks "we're going to hire 10,000 refugees"

(that we didn't, but hey, it's all 'bout the signalling)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:51 PM (MINbv)

104 Ah dude, Zombie is here today. We don't need more pics from the Folsom Street Fair.

This is America, Zombie is free to post photos of acts and images no sane person wants to view, and you're free to be dumb enough to click on the link!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 01:51 PM (39g3+)

105 Ace, where is the "Chicago lesbians expel gay Jews from Pride Parade" thread? That's the most interesting story today.

Straight-up, unapologetic anti-Semitism. Leaders of the gay march literally told the Jews "This movement (i.e. homosexuality) is pro-Palestinian. We don't want you here." Beyond belief.

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 01:45 PM (DQ4Fv)

The people who were expelled were no doubt hard core lefties. The lefty civil war over who is or isn't hard core enough will be great to see

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 01:51 PM (493sH)

106 80 Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 01:43 PM (NgKpN

You want them to rule on State's restrictions on the 2nd amendment or do you want to have them leave that alone too?

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 01:46 PM (7QnCd)

They already are leaving them alone.

I'm concerned about the sophistry going on, where one right is more limited than others... where some rights seem absolute (religion, sometimes... or abortion)... yet other 'rights' suddenly get made up (Marriage, which is a LICENSE)...

Where they say gun rights are not absolute... yet Religion suddenly is, which includes ISLAM...

I'm trying to think of anything in our lives, that the Court system has not interfered with ...

Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 01:52 PM (NgKpN)

107 So, the cherry on the cake would be a Scotus retirement announcement, yes?

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 01:52 PM (a0IVu)

108 Left today:

It's horrible that muslim terrorists can't move here. And it's also horrible that icky Christian kids get new playgrounds.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:52 PM (JN/qv)

109 "It wasn't the diabeetus that got me. I was never the same after the ass kicking I got from Tom Cruise in The Firm"
-Wilford Brimley

no wonder the poor bastard could only eat oatmeal

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 01:52 PM (39g3+)

110 98
Wonder if the SCOTUS is slow rolling some of the other cases in hope
that the President gets to fill another seat or two before the cases
come up?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (J+eG2)

Hope so. A bit disappointed they decided not to hear the 2A petition on the right to carry

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 26, 2017 01:52 PM (jxbfJ)

111 101 Disagree with zombie re: primaries on Sotomayer votes.

They do, however, need to be pulled aside and told "Look, Slick, you'll be voting for whomever Trump puts up next on Supreme Court. Capice? And don't give him any more lip, see. Or we'ze'll primary your ass.
"
Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (uBKPR)

One can argue that many Republican Senators back then still believed in Queensberry Rules, as opposed to the no-holds-barred streetfighting of the Demunists.

But I would argue that Queensberry Rules ended with Robert Bork, so there is that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (ujg0T)

112 I will bet a $100 that the government would not have raised a stink if it had been a muzzie mosk that wanted government money.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (npdX6)

113 You're proud of wanting to take it up the cocoa factory? Uh.... good for you? I guess?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 01:47 PM (39g3+)

Exactly. If you're proud of that, what exactly would you be ashamed of?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (YmDtf)

114 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 01:46 PM (J+eG2)

Not a problem, because muz children don't get to play as it would take time away from their indoctrination!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (gwPgz)

115 no wonder the poor bastard could only eat oatmeal

***

Well, that and the mustache.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (GEpFD)

116 I honestly believe that is the main animus driving the Left.

You look at any of their super donors, and they almost always have some strong anti-Christian sentiment.

-
Almost as bad as Jooooooooooos. Now where's my Rainbow Love Trumps Hate flag?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (Nwg0u)

117 and you're free to be dumb enough to click on the link!"

A mid day link? Riiiiiight.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:54 PM (MINbv)

118 112 I will bet a $100 that the government would not have raised a stink if it had been a muzzie mosk that wanted government money.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (npdX6)

__

Allahu Playgrounds!!

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:54 PM (JN/qv)

119 109
"It wasn't the diabeetus that got me. I was never the same after the ass kicking I got from Tom Cruise in The Firm"

-Wilford Brimley

no wonder the poor bastard could only eat oatmeal

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 01:52 PM (39g3+)

Well you can only take so many hits after that horrible movie Cocoon.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 26, 2017 01:54 PM (jxbfJ)

120 If you're proud of that, what exactly would you be ashamed of?

***

Leftists lack the capacity for shame.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 01:54 PM (GEpFD)

121 Straight-up, unapologetic anti-Semitism. Leaders of the gay march
literally told the Jews "This movement (i.e. homosexuality) is
pro-Palestinian. We don't want you here."

I wonder how the Pride parade went in Gaza City?

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 01:54 PM (qJhUV)

122 Ruth Bader Ginsburg SERIOUSLY doesn't like religious liberty.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (tSdA3)

123 But just imagine if Clinton were picking all those replacements!
Posted by: torquewrench at June 26, 2017 01:50 PM (ujwCG)

And the other side of that argument, imagine we were counting on the R's in the Senate to block Hillory's choices.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (TOk1P)

124
The people who were expelled were no doubt hard core lefties. The lefty civil war over who is or isn't hard core enough will be great to see

Yup go long on popcorn and beer. yup beer and popcorn.

Posted by: USNtakim at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (zZWkn)

125 The elevator in our church isn't working, so the old people can't get downstairs to the Ladies Missionary Guild or to the church potlucks. Is there a grant for that?

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (lwiT4)

126 "This movement (i.e. homosexuality) is
pro-Palestinian. We don't want you here."

The fegelehs do know about the Muzzies and whole rooftop thing, right?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (GEpFD)

127 I'm thinking in practical terms, Sotomayer wasn't the hill to die on at the time. I would certainly hold it over those Senators heads in a "Blazing Saddles" "I didn't get a harumphf out of that guy" sort of way for the impending judicial picks.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (uBKPR)

128 Friendly reminder to Article V fans.....the state of Missouri is run by the GOP. These very same people who didn't want to fudn icky Xtianist playgrounds, would be creating a new constitution.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (JN/qv)

129 I must say, I do like the cut of this Gorsuch fellow's jib!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (wtvvX)

130 *fund

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (JN/qv)

131 I don't think so until they begin construction on the Wall."

Plans are already underway in Texas... had to laugh at the Houston Chron (the online spew) spin - "only" 35 Texas companies bid on wall construction was an actual headline.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (MINbv)

132 will bet a $100 that the government would not have raised a stink if it had been a muzzie mosk that wanted government money.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 26, 2017 01:53 PM (npdX6)

That's where Kagan is going with it.

Posted by: Golfman at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (Kb9ZN)

133 >>Leaders of the gay march

literally told the Jews "This movement (i.e. homosexuality) is

pro-Palestinian. We don't want you here."

What the actual F?

I am amazed that Palestinians have managed to co-opt #BLM, the Women's March and now Pride marches.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (NOIQH)

134 Straight-up, unapologetic anti-Semitism. Leaders of the gay march

literally told the Jews "This movement (i.e. homosexuality) is

pro-Palestinian. We don't want you here."

Perhaps the Palis can paint a tower in rainbow colors to toss the gays off?

Wheee!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (PY9jH)

135 Sign in local Barstucks

Muslim Employees
Must Wash
Left Hand
Before Returning To Work!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (gwPgz)

136 124
The people who were expelled were no doubt hard core lefties. The lefty civil war over who is or isn't hard core enough will be great to see

Yup go long on popcorn and beer. yup beer and popcorn.
Posted by: USNtakim at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (zZWkn)

==============

"This has never happened before! I'm so shocked! This is my shocked face!"
-Robespierre's head in a basket

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (ZMD96)

137 Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 01:52 PM (NgKpN)

Yes they did leave the 2nd alone this time. My question was is that what you also want? I share your concern about the SC overreaching but I don't mind when they address a direct constitutional issue. Not some made up penumbra.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (7QnCd)

138 >>I must say, I do like the cut of this Gorsuch fellow's jib!!!

DITTO!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 01:57 PM (NOIQH)

139 122
Ruth Bader Ginsburg SERIOUSLY doesn't like religious liberty.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (tSdA3)

Doesn't like the U.S. Constitution. So she said to the Egyptians

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 26, 2017 01:57 PM (jxbfJ)

140 87 So does this mean Amazon and Apple will go out of business now? I was led to believe that without Sudanese refugees these companies couldn't keep the lights on.
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:48 PM (JN/qv)

Nah, it's the Somalis that are the backbone of those companies. And their literacy classes are coming along. Slowly, maybe, but coming along.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 01:57 PM (YmDtf)

141 I must say, I do like the cut of this Gorsuch fellow's jib!!!

***

Does he have a newsletter?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 01:57 PM (GEpFD)

142 -

Irony, I'd like you to meet the US Gay Pride Movement
US Gay Pride Movement, Irony.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_Palestinian_territories

Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 26, 2017 01:57 PM (uBKPR)

143 America, made great again.

Posted by: m at June 26, 2017 01:57 PM (VgThI)

144 I'd love to know what arm-twisting TFG and his thugs used on Roberts (re the unaffordable care act).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2017 01:58 PM (PY9jH)

145 Sorry, we're going to be two different nations when it comes to gun rights. There's about seven to ten states which are hostile to gun rights. The rest have nearly all moved to allowing concealed carry.

The anti-states have a greater share of cities with high gun violence. From a practical standpoint (not a constitutional standpoint) I'm not sure if I want more guns in the hands of residents of these cities. SCOTUS would rather not go there.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 01:58 PM (+7/1f)

146 I can't remember where I heard it, but reportedly Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas have become close friends.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 01:58 PM (lwiT4)

147 Are we still winning?

I think we are.

Trump lied: I am not tired of winning.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 26, 2017 01:58 PM (Qj2Mo)

148 >>Ruth Bader Ginsburg SERIOUSLY doesn't like religious liberty.

Didn't she work at the ACLU for years?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 01:58 PM (NOIQH)

149 Don't forget Charbucks "we're going to hire 10,000 refugees"

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OMG! There's gonna be a cappuccino shortage!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (Nwg0u)

150 What the actual F?

I am amazed that Palestinians have managed to co-opt #BLM, the Women's March and now Pride marches.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (NOIQH)

____

They are all versions of communism. It's not all that amazing when you step back and look at it in that context.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (JN/qv)

151 So the Left Left says we can't control our Borders using Religion as a litmus test, but we can when it comes to asphalt?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (5y11N)

152 They are all versions of communism. It's not all that amazing when you step back and look at it in that context.

***

My enemy's enemy is my friend.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (GEpFD)

153 This has pretty wide ranging applications as there are 30+ states with similar prohibitions.

You know why nearly all of those are in place? To prevent Catholic schools from receiving money. The vast majority of these laws were passed due to anti-Catholic animus.

The elevator in our church isn't working, so the old people can't get downstairs to the Ladies Missionary Guild or to the church potlucks. Is there a grant for that?
Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (lwiT4)

If there's a neutral based grant program by which non-profit organizations can receive funds to provide accessibility to those with mobility limitations, sure, why not? It's not spending on religion, it's spending on infrastructure.

(Note that I haven't read the opinion)

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (mf5HN)

154 128 Friendly reminder to Article V fans.....the state of Missouri is run by the GOP. These very same people who didn't want to fudn icky Xtianist playgrounds, would be creating a new constitution.
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (JN/qv)

==============

They'd be one of 50 states trying to amend our current constitution.

No amendments (or changes in general) that have to meet the approval of 37 states is going to be hugely drastic, probably just some structural changes (like term limits).

It was a whole lot easier for the convention that eventually made the current Constitution to go off the rails and abandon the Article of Confederation for a few reasons, none of which are germane for today:

1) The Articles of Confederation were only about a decade old, as opposed to over 200, meaning there's a whole lot more reverence for our current set up than the previous one.

2) It's a whole lot easier to convince 8 states to do something drastic than 37.

3) The Articles of Confederation never really worked.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (ZMD96)

155 Ok, y'all. Gotta run. Been a great day!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (MINbv)

156 Has the Wise Latina ever gotten one right yet?

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (JO9+V)

157 >>So does this mean Amazon and Apple will go out of business now? I was
led to believe that without Sudanese refugees these companies couldn't
keep the lights on.

Chobani

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (NOIQH)

158 128 Friendly reminder to Article V fans.....the state of Missouri is run by the GOP. These very same people who didn't want to fudn icky Xtianist playgrounds, would be creating a new constitution.
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 01:55 PM (JN/qv)

The Deep State applies to state governments too. I suspect that someone in the MO Civil Cervix tried to impose this playground discrimination, and that's how it went to court.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (ujg0T)

159 So the Left Left says we can't control our Borders using Religion as a litmus test, but we can when it comes to asphalt?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (5y11N)
==========================

What - you gotta problem with that?

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (lwiT4)

160 They already are leaving them alone.

I'm concerned about the sophistry going on, where one right is more limited than others... where some rights seem absolute (religion, sometimes... or abortion)... yet other 'rights' suddenly get made up (Marriage, which is a LICENSE)...

Where they say gun rights are not absolute... yet Religion suddenly is, which includes ISLAM...

I'm trying to think of anything in our lives, that the Court system has not interfered with ...

I'm not sure I follow, so let's back up a bit.

A church is running a school. The state has said "we have some money to help renovate school playgrounds for schools in need." Some private schools apply. The church school applies but is told "no, you are a church so bugger off."

I'm hard pressed to see how that's valid given the incorporation of the 1A.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (PFy0L)

161 Roberts has no balls. Scalia and Thomas have balls. They wouldn't have backed down were they in Roberts position.
The Irish adoption thing shouldn't have been enough to get Roberts to fold. He could have ridden that through.
Instead, my belief was that he put the institutional interests of SCOTUS first.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (+7/1f)

162 148 >>Ruth Bader Ginsburg SERIOUSLY doesn't like religious liberty.

Didn't she work at the ACLU for years?!?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 01:58 PM (NOIQH)

Yes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (YmDtf)

163 "Their blind spot on the religion of pieces and what they'd do to the left if they got into power is part of the left's hatred of
Christianity."

There's been a real vogue in the last five years or so for public K-12 educators (even in Bible Belt states!) to weasel Islam into the curriculum. To the point of having entire classes do things like stand in unison and recite the _shahada_.

If whole classrooms full of kids were being told to stand up and meekly recite that "Jesus is my Lord and Saviour", which is as an active profession of faith essentially the cognate of the shahada, the left would go absolutely apeshit and respond with LAWFARE ELEVENTY.

The "separation of church and state" would be shouted from every podium. Consent decrees from now till the cows come home. School administrators being terrified into banning even the mere *mention* of Christianity.

But if it's Islam? The left welcome it into the schools with open arms! Don't ask me how this makes sense. None of it makes any sense. It's a farrago of incoherence and self-contradiction.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (ujwCG)

164 Chobani

***

Gesundheit.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (GEpFD)

165 Straight-up, unapologetic anti-Semitism. Leaders of the gay march literally told the Jews "This movement (i.e. homosexuality) is pro-Palestinian. We don't want you here."

So are the Joos who got kicked out thinking, F that shit. OR We're in the wrong and should have never done that? I'm guessing the latter because lefty stupidity overrides everything

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (493sH)

166 "I wonder how the Pride parade went in Gaza City?
Posted by: tu3031 a"

It was a real blast.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (OD2ni)

167 >>They are all versions of communism. It's not all that amazing when you step back and look at it in that context.

Dang, you're right!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:00 PM (NOIQH)

168
Well you can only take so many hits after that horrible movie Cocoon.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 26, 2017 01:54 PM (jxbfJ)

Horrible? All those buff men doing cannonballs and comely young women admiring their physics?

The good people at Liberty Medical gave me a standing ovation after that movie.

Posted by: Not Wilford Brimley at all at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (PduNE)

169 131
I don't think so until they begin construction on the Wall."

Plans are already underway in Texas... had to laugh at the Houston
Chron (the online spew) spin - "only" 35 Texas companies bid on wall
construction was an actual headline.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (MINbv)

I hope the people implying that "Trump is a not a success without his wall" were not the ones saying that "We don't need a wall; just enforce existing law."

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (tbOMB)

170 Friendly reminder to Article V fans.....the state of Missouri is run by the GOP. These very same people who didn't want to fudn icky Xtianist playgrounds, would be creating a new constitution.

Correct, we cannot trust modern politicians and lawyers, thinkers and pundits to monkey with the constitution, period. Not one of them is worthy to kiss Madisons' toe jam.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (39g3+)

171 O/T

I just read the sidebar piece about the morbidly obese judge. "Had diarrhea running down her leg...." etc.

Thanks to that little read, I'll be skipping lunch and possibly dinner today.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (PY9jH)

172 And now our quiz:

If you were gay, would you rather live in Israel or Palestine? Show your work.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (B+qrE)

173 reportedly Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas have become close friends.

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They sit around and tell how-many-liberals-does-it-take-to-ban-a-lightbulb jokes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (Nwg0u)

174
http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.797650

"Three people carrying Jewish Pride flags were asked to leave the annual Chicago Dyke March on Saturday.

The Chicago-based LGBTQ newspaper Windy City Times quoted a Dyke March collective member as saying the rainbow flag with the Star of David in the middle "made people feel unsafe," and that the march was "pro-Palestinian" and "anti-Zionist.""

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/238762/dykes-vs-kikes

"It was only a matter of time before they came for the Jews.

Last weekend, organizers of Chicago’s Dyke March asked three participants carrying Jewish LGBT pride flags—a Star of David embossed over the traditional rainbow—to leave. “It was a flag from my congregation which celebrates my queer, Jewish identity,” Laurel Grauer told the Windy City Times. According to the paper, Grauer “lost count of the number of people who harassed her” at the festival. The only other individuals to be treated in such fashion were a contingent of Christian anti-gay activists, whom marchers surrounded with “sheets of tarpaulin, trans pride flags and bed linen” so that their hateful signs could not be seen.

Asked to explain why they would kick Jews out of their event, Dyke March organizers were unapologetic and unambiguous. The flags, they explained, “made people feel unsafe” and the march was “anti-Zionist.” Forget equating a piece of cloth with an act of physical intimidation, an illustration of the hysterical progressive rhetoric that likens speech to “violence.” There was nothing “Zionist” about the allegedly threatening flag (other than its containing the Star of David, which also appears on the Israeli flag). What made these people “feel unsafe” was the presence of Jews. Censoring this Jewish symbol, meanwhile, organizers were perfectly content to let participants wave the flag of Palestine, a political entity where LGBT people are routinely harassed and murdered."

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

175 It was a real blast.

***

Blew the roof off the joint.

I'm sorry, I meant they threw them off the roof of the joint.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (GEpFD)

176 Yes, it's a trick question--there is no such thing as "Palestine."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (B+qrE)

177 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (ZMD96)

___

My point is that people assume that GOP run states = good things would come out of Article V. But the GOP run states are people like in Missouri. And in Kansas where they are about to increase taxes BIGLY. And in Idaho where the governor recently vetoed a bill to make food tax free. And on and on.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (JN/qv)

178 >>So the Left Left says we can't control our Borders using Religion as a litmus test, but we can when it comes to asphalt?

Heh, nailed it.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (NOIQH)

179 So the evil Donald "He's gonna nominate his liberal sister!" Trump quite possibly chose a more conservative first SCOTUS pick than "conservative" George W. Bush.

Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (cAnNx)

180 Flipping through radio channels driving to an appointment this AM, heard a Legal Expert on the Leonard Lopate PBS station giving "analysis" of today's rulings.
At one point he described how these cases that have been sitting around a long time have now "started to come up" now that "the Republicans have stolen a seat."

Not a peep or even a question about "stole a seat" but Lopate just asks Serious Guy some follow up question about how isn't this a horrible imposition of icky religion with sacred tax funds, etc.

Is it the accepted Lib talking point now that because Obama didn't get to pack yet another Justice on during the end of his term that Gorsuch is, like Trump's election is "stolen"? Or, does this just refer to Trump being illegitimate entirely, so anyone he appoints by definition cannot be legitimate?

Even for a PBS dribbling douchenozzle this is a new low.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (BsGS1)

181 146 I can't remember where I heard it, but reportedly Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas have become close friends.
Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 01:58 PM (lwiT4)

Gorsuch is about my age, a bit older. For both of us, the disgusting kangaroo court and show trial that the commiecrats tried with the Clarence Thomas hearings was a formative event.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (ujg0T)

182 I just read the sidebar piece about the morbidly obese judge. "Had diarrhea running down her leg...." etc.

***

Paging Chelsea Clinton!

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (GEpFD)

183 I wonder how the Pride parade went in Gaza City?

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 01:54 PM (qJhUV)

I think there was a lot of drugs involved because the reports say all of participants got stoned

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 02:03 PM (493sH)

184 But if it's Islam? The left welcome it into the schools with open arms! Don't ask me how this makes sense. None of it makes any sense. It's a farrago of incoherence and self-contradiction.

Somewhere money is changing hands to make it happen.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 02:03 PM (Hk/NM)

185 If there's a neutral based grant program by which
non-profit organizations can receive funds to provide accessibility to
those with mobility limitations, sure, why not? It's not spending on
religion, it's spending on infrastructure.

(Note that I haven't read the opinion)

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (mf5HN)
====================

I like the way you think. I could throw some ADA language in there maybe. I'll look around. Average age of church members here is about 87.

If you go over to visit the guy who's 104, he'll make you a martini.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:03 PM (lwiT4)

186 "I just read the sidebar piece about the morbidly obese judge. "Had diarrhea running down her leg...." etc."

Truth. I'm under her jurisdiction.

SHUDDERS like Homer Simpson.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (+7/1f)

187 MILK, MILK
LEMONADE
'ROUND THE BACK IS WHERE REGGIE CORNHOLES ME.

Posted by: Barak Obama at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (npdX6)

188 And now our quiz:

If you were gay, would you rather live in Israel or Palestine? Show your work.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (B+qrE)

Israel.

Here, I show my work.

http://bit.ly/1C1PPKs

Chive on.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (mf5HN)

189 The best part of the #winning is that this order came down during the Ramadan feast days. Tastier than a pulled pork sandwich.

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (7n4KQ)

190 I'd love to know what arm-twisting TFG and his thugs used on Roberts (re the unaffordable care act).
Posted by: Jane D'oh

There's a theory it had to do with Roberts' adopted children. Something to do with Ireland's rules RE adoption and how he may have *skirted* those rules.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (jhqr1)

191 To answer someone's question from above about the gay Jews:

ADL demands apology after Jewish participants kicked out of Chicago pride event

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (5y11N)

192 Who wrote the explanation of the ruling that is in the shaded areas above? I would like to point out that there is no "separation of church and state" in the constitution . The first amendment simply states that the government shall not make any religion nor shall it interfere with the free practice thereof. It says nothing about the government being free from religion and our founding documents make numerous references to God ,deities ,and supreme beings. Just like Obama insisting Jefferson gave a Muslim dinner at the White House so the left keeps insisting there is a separation of church and state and neither shall the two touch each other in the constitution that they hate.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (tCSTx)

193 And let's also not forget that the mailman's son is a "Republican" and runs Ohio. You trust him to make decisions on what happens at Article V Convention?

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (JN/qv)

194 More winning.

Dear United Federations of Teachers,

How does my ass taste?

Love,

The Constitution

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 26, 2017 02:05 PM (4AVeu)

195 177 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 01:59 PM (ZMD96)

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My point is that people assume that GOP run states = good things would come out of Article V. But the GOP run states are people like in Missouri. And in Kansas where they are about to increase taxes BIGLY. And in Idaho where the governor recently vetoed a bill to make food tax free. And on and on.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (JN/qv)

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I understand that at a state level, but when you try to bring that out to a Constitutional Convention, thinks get a whole lot murkier.

What do you think would happen? 37 states would band together to make religious institutions no longer tax exempt? Or they roll back the 2nd amendment? Or that they give the EPA more governing authority than the President of the United States?

If we were to get an Article V convention, we'd probably see term limits and maybe a balanced budget amendment. I'd hope for something that limits the authority of the administrative state as well.

People who fear the Convention would end up laughing at it because they would fear things like, "Abortions are now punishable by firing squads" and instead they'd get "Senators can't sit in the same chair for more than 12 years."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:05 PM (ZMD96)

196 But if it's Islam? The left welcome it into the schools with open arms! Don't ask me how this makes sense. None of it makes any sense. It's a farrago of incoherence and self-contradiction.

Actually it makes total sense.

The left is all about destroying western cultural norms.

So is Islam.

It's a match made in Hell.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 26, 2017 02:05 PM (wtvvX)

197 The ones with the carrots in the orange jello.

I'm listening...

Posted by: BCochrane's Chili at June 26, 2017 02:05 PM (Baw4l)

198 191 To answer someone's question from above about the gay Jews:

ADL demands apology after Jewish participants kicked out of Chicago pride event
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (5y11N)

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Oh no!! A harshly worded letter! Whatever will the left do?

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:05 PM (JN/qv)

199 Ruth Bader Ginsburg SERIOUSLY doesn't like religious liberty.

Correction - Judeo-Christian liberty. She would be on her bony, calcified knees for phony "religions" such as wicca or islam.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2017 02:06 PM (X6fMO)

200 I am amazed that Palestinians have managed to co-opt #BLM, the Women's March and now Pride marches.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (NOIQH)

They all have the same enemy - us.

Posted by: josephistan at June 26, 2017 02:06 PM (7HtZB)

201 Leftists need to read the new amendment in the Constitution. It's related to the separation of head and ass.

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2017 02:06 PM (7n4KQ)

202 Something to do with Ireland's rules RE adoption and how he may have *skirted* those rules

I fail to see how that would remotely be any kind of problem. At worst he'd be guilty of compassion. The kids are American Citizens now, it doesn't matter what happened in the past with their adoption papers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:06 PM (39g3+)

203 All those buff men doing cannonballs and comely young women admiring their physics?

About damn time comely young women admire physics.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (YmDtf)

204 Leftists need to read the new amendment in the Constitution. It's related to the separation of head and ass.

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Wait, so the entire Democrat party is unconstitutional now?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (GEpFD)

205 I'm in complete agreement; the less odious taint we have in our legal system the better.

Posted by: Fritz at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (/HfBH)

206 I like the way you think. I could throw some ADA language in there maybe. I'll look around. Average age of church members here is about 87.

If you go over to visit the guy who's 104, he'll make you a martini.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:03 PM (lwiT4)

I was going to throw in some ADA blah blah blah blah blah but I think there are some religious exemptions for ADA compliance on older buildings which, frankly, has more to do with all those quaint New England churches not wanting to be forced to completely rebuild to come into code than anything pro-religion.

Can't muck about with the darling quaint chapel from 1723 where Mimsey wants to get married, now, can we?

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (mf5HN)

207 177 And in Kansas where they are about to increase taxes BIGLY.

Posted by: #neverskankles
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You're welcome.

Posted by: Kansas Move-on.org Democrats Who Register as Republicans and Campaign and Win as "Conservatives" at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (j+dfT)

208 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:01 PM (tbOMB)

The Wall was down on my list of crucial items to be addressed but I acknowledge it was the main issue that thrust Trump to the top of the ticket. I don't want it to become Obama's gitmo. I just raised the issue in response to comment that Trump can coast the rest of the way because of what he has accomplished so far.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (7QnCd)

209 "About damn time comely young women admire physics."

SCIENCE!

Posted by: The old English guy who says "Science!" at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (GEpFD)

210 95
No John Roberts taint on this one.

++++

My taint will not be ignored.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at June 26, 2017 01:49 PM (WzbqD)

Should have marched in one of the gay pride parades. I'm sure someone there will tend to the tender taint.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (jxbfJ)

211 178 >>So the Left Left says we can't control our Borders using Religion as a litmus test, but we can when it comes to asphalt?

Heh, nailed it.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:02 PM (NOIQH)

Sooo.... if we build the wall out of rubberized asphalt, the Left would get onboard?

LOL

Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (NgKpN)

212 I understand that at a state level, but when you try to bring that out to a Constitutional Convention, thinks get a whole lot murkier.

What do you think would happen? 37 states would band together to make religious institutions no longer tax exempt? Or they roll back the 2nd amendment? Or that they give the EPA more governing authority than the President of the United States?

If we were to get an Article V convention, we'd probably see term limits and maybe a balanced budget amendment. I'd hope for something that limits the authority of the administrative state as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:05 PM (ZMD96)

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Why do you assume you know what would and wouldn't happen? I've given you several examples of the Republicans who would make up these 37 states. They don't care so much for religious freedom, they love taxes and they love govt power even more. Stop assuming that getting a bunch of Republicans together in a room will result in a better constitution.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (JN/qv)

213 205 I'm in complete agreement; the less odious taint we have in our legal system the better.
Posted by: Fritz

Roberts is retiring?

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2017 02:08 PM (7n4KQ)

214 I actually don't like this ruling and I'm going to tell you why--Muslims will use this to strengthen the position of THEIR schools.
Just wait.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:08 PM (7uYFy)

215 What do you think would happen? 37 states would band together to make religious institutions no longer tax exempt? Or they roll back the 2nd amendment? Or that they give the EPA more governing authority than the President of the United States?

If we were to get an Article V convention, we'd probably see term limits and maybe a balanced budget amendment. I'd hope for something that limits the authority of the administrative state as well.

I'd say the former is far more likely than the latter. FAR more. Almost all state legislators dream of being at the federal level, they're not going to cut the throats of their dreams.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:08 PM (39g3+)

216 You will get a woody or hard nipples if you choose.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM

Embrace the healing power of 'and'.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 26, 2017 02:08 PM (DMUuz)

217 I'm in complete agreement; the less odious taint we have in our legal system the better.

***

Speaking of odious taints, what does Obama have to say about this decision?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:08 PM (GEpFD)

218 184 But if it's Islam? The left welcome it into the schools with open arms! Don't ask me how this makes sense. None of it makes any sense. It's a farrago of incoherence and self-contradiction.

Wikipedia "Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact". It actually DOES make a dreadful sense.

Leftists hate us and our culture more than they fear or loathe Islamic Barbarism, or they don't take Islamic Barbarism seriously and see it as a tool to take us down.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:09 PM (ujg0T)

219 the less odious taint we have in our legal system the better.

But enough about Ginsburg.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 26, 2017 02:09 PM (jhqr1)

220 "The church had met all the neutral criteria for the program."
______________________________________

But, but, the Lutherans may get on their knees while on the pavement and pray.

Or they may actually laugh and enjoy and raise little Lutherans to enjoy life.

This should not stand!

Posted by: Insane Liberals at June 26, 2017 02:09 PM (4AVeu)

221 These Supreme Court decisions are unconstitutional.

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at June 26, 2017 02:09 PM (npdX6)

222 Aztec my ass. She's sorta Mayan.

Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2017 02:10 PM (wtcDM)

223 Somewhere money is changing hands to make it happen.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 02:03 PM (Hk/NM)

There's still a lot of Arab oil money sloshing about and the Deep State Obama Embedded Liberals are funding a lot of invader resettlement using your tax dollars!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 26, 2017 02:10 PM (gwPgz)

224 212
Why do you assume you know what would and wouldn't happen? I've given you several examples of the Republicans who would make up these 37 states. They don't care so much for religious freedom, they love taxes and they love govt power even more. Stop assuming that getting a bunch of Republicans together in a room will result in a better constitution.
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (JN/qv)

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It's the idea of consensus that would drive it.

Notice I'm not saying that we'd be getting red meat amendments like the repeal of the income tax, but little things like term limits.

If you can name 37 states (red and/or blue) that would be okay with rolling back the 1st amendment, then I'll begin to fear a convention.

Until then, I'll remember that politics is about compromise and that the only compromise that we'd most likely get would be rather milquetoast.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:10 PM (ZMD96)

225 I fail to see how that would remotely be any kind of problem. At worst he'd be guilty of compassion. The kids are American Citizens now, it doesn't matter what happened in the past with their adoption papers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:06 PM (39g3+)

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Agreed. This whole line of reasoning is odd. So Obama would have outed the fact that Roberts broke some adoption rules...and? There'd me a minor kerfufle in the MSM for a day or two and then nobody would have remembered it a week later. That's a pretty flimsy excuse for voting yes on Obamacare.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:10 PM (JN/qv)

226 Posted by: Jen the original at June 26, 2017 02:04 PM (tCSTx)

And even then, it was a FEDERAL prohibition...

At least ONE of the States that ratified the Constitution, had a State Religion... and kept it for years until THEY voluntarily changed it...

Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (NgKpN)

227 222 Aztec my ass. She's sorta Mayan.
Posted by: cornbred
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You misspelled "fat and stupid".

Posted by: Furious George at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (j+dfT)

228 Aztec my ass. She's sorta Mayan.
Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2017 02:10 PM (wtcDM)

Who Sotomayer?
She's Puerto Rican so it's either Taino--a cannibal tribe that's pretty much extinct, or Boriqua.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (7uYFy)

229 It's the idea of consensus that would drive it.

Notice I'm not saying that we'd be getting red meat amendments like the repeal of the income tax, but little things like term limits.

If you can name 37 states (red and/or blue) that would be okay with rolling back the 1st amendment, then I'll begin to fear a convention.

Until then, I'll remember that politics is about compromise and that the only compromise that we'd most likely get would be rather milquetoast.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:10 PM (ZMD96)

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I can see 38 (not 37) states getting together and coming up with "common sense" gun control, "common sense" restrictions on hate speech, a guaranteed livable wage and shit like that.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (JN/qv)

230 I saw Odious Taint open for Pussy Riot at the Manhole in 2013...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (wtvvX)

231 This answers my question: who is worse, Sotomayor or Kagan?

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (dZ756)

232 The real reason I gave Obarkycare the pass was Obama saw me in one of the bath houses in Indonesia and once at Epstein's place.

Posted by: John Roberts at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (npdX6)

233 These Supreme Court decisions are unconstitutional.
Posted by: Chris Cuomo at June 26, 2017 02:09 PM (npdX6)

I've had more or less that said to me before and not even the giant papier mache puppet heads can help explain how stupid that is.

Since I'm a cockeyed optimist, I hold out hope that these decisions will lead the Left to the realization that constitutional and unconstitutional are not synonyms for morally right and morally wrong.

Also, I would like to introduce my new unicorn, Stabby, to the Horde.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (mf5HN)

234 Ireland has very restrictive rules on foreign adoptions.
Roberts apparently paid the mother to go to Central America and have the twins there. It's not a hanging offense, and I doubt that Roberts and wife would have been forced to send them back.

Obama did make public threats before the SCOTUS ruling, and may have done more privately, which to me is the better explanation for Roberts late switch.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (+7/1f)

235 54 Read the dissent that Gorsuch and Thomas wrote on the Denial of certiorari for Peruta v California.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2017 01:42 PM (M3pAJ)

Last Paragraph from Justice Thomas & Gorsuch dissent on denial of certiorari on Peruta v. California

"For those of us who work in marbled halls, guarded
constantly by a vigilant and dedicated police force, the
guarantees of the Second Amendment might seem antiquated and superfluous. But the Framers made a clear choice: They reserved to all Americans the right to bear arms for self-defense. I do not think we should stand by idly while a State denies its citizens that right, particularly when their very lives may depend on it. I respectfully dissent. "

Nice.

Posted by: WisRich at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (G0vdT)

236 So Obama would have outed the fact that Roberts broke some adoption rules...and?

Which is why I don't buy the "blackmail" theory at all. As crazy and radical as he was, Obama was not going to kick the door down and Elian Gonzales his kid away to Ireland.

My personal theory is that Roberts has spent his whole life thinking about his reputation and how historians will view his career, and the left successfully convinced him that throwing out Obamacare would damage his treatment by historians. Ego, not blackmail.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (39g3+)

237 "From a practical standpoint"

Remember that funny video where that lady had a crappy AR-15 knock-off and scared the thugs breaking into her home so bad one dropped his pistol and had to pick it up as they ran away? A gun made her the equal of three athletic young men in a fight.

Posted by: Mudd at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (cfHE9)

238 This answers my question: who is worse, Sotomayor or Kagan?

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Jebus.

That's like choosing if you'd rather die of Alzheimer's or ALS.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (GEpFD)

239 Why do you assume you know what would and wouldn't happen? I've given you several examples of the Republicans who would make up these 37 states. They don't care so much for religious freedom, they love taxes and they love govt power even more. Stop assuming that getting a bunch of Republicans together in a room will result in a better constitution.

Roger that - the Virginia GOP being one case. Rest assured, the wishes of the governed really don't enter into their calculations much, until it is forced in and even at that it's grudging acceptance and adhered to with the absolute minimum of effort.

I have zero faith in the Virginia GOP to lead any kind of conservative effort in any kind of Article V convention. It's far more likely they will "compromise" with the Left to get some figurehead meaningless amendment heard in exchange for codifying a blanket "assault weapons" ban. And I don't doubt that there are other states who would do the same.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (PFy0L)

240 I just raised the issue in response to comment that
Trump can coast the rest of the way because of what he has accomplished
so far.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (7QnCd)

Yeah, wasn't exactly calling you out; just using that example. (Hard to tell intent and thoughts on the internet.) And no, he should not coast. He should grab the left and the GOPe by the pussy and ram it home.

But six months in, and I would call today a great cap off to a great start.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (tbOMB)

241 228 Aztec my ass. She's sorta Mayan.
Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2017 02:10 PM (wtcDM)

Who Sotomayer?
She's Puerto Rican so it's either Taino--a cannibal tribe that's pretty much extinct, or Boriqua.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (7uYFy)

Yeah, but that's a kind of Mexican, right?

Posted by: Christopher Moltisanti at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (7HtZB)

242 "I just read the sidebar piece about the morbidly obese judge."

It's disgusting, but so is the political party and machine which installed her in a job for which she's demonstrably unfit. The article really is must reading despite its nauseating awfulness.

The thing which made me laugh was the court staff relating how the judge would lose control of her bowels. Then would say to them things such as "There's a mess over there. I think someone should clean it up."

IT'S NOT JUST HER. That arrogant attitude towards self-created disasters is absolutely part and parcel of her New Class social caste: the Ivy League legal and political mandarinate.

Judge Shollenberger (Princeton, Yale Law) leaves a horrible reeking mess on the floor behind her. Whereas Barack Obama (Columbia, Harvard Law) spends eight years littering the entire country with horrible reeking messes.

Both by turns either pretend that the messes don't exist and never existed, or, will refer to the messes in the passive voice, distancing themselves discreetly from what they did. And both regally expect that someone else, from a lower caste, will obediently make the messes go away for them.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (ujwCG)

243 The best part of the #winning is that this order came down during the Ramadan feast days. Tastier than a pulled pork sandwich.

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Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (Nwg0u)

244 Yes they did leave the 2nd alone this time. My question was is that what you also want? I share your concern about the SC overreaching but I don't mind when they address a direct constitutional issue. Not some made up penumbra.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 01:56 PM (7QnCd)

I don't trust this notion of "incorporation". I don't trust the Fed over-ruling the States on issues within the State.

The Court ruled in favor of Lutherans today. Could easily be for Islam tomorrow. And will be - sooner rather than later.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (tRLIC)

245 Nice.

Posted by: WisRich at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (G0vdT)
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Very very nice. Wow.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (lwiT4)

246 My personal theory is that Roberts has spent his whole life thinking about his reputation and how historians will view his career, and the left successfully convinced him that throwing out Obamacare would damage his treatment by historians. Ego, not blackmail.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (39g3+)

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Yep.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (JN/qv)

247 Yeah, but that's a kind of Mexican, right?

***

In terms of Ethnic Grievances, it's close enough.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (GEpFD)

248 Just read that obese judge article in the sidebar. Yeesh!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:15 PM (Id9+8)

249 The Court ruled in favor of Lutherans today. Could easily be for Islam tomorrow. And will be - sooner rather than later.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (tRLIC)
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You cannot deny my liberty on the grounds that someone else might get it too.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:15 PM (lwiT4)

250 Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

***

I'm pretty sure that's rayciss.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:16 PM (GEpFD)

251 "Taino--a cannibal tribe that's pretty much extinct,"

The Caribs (as in Caribbean) were the cannibals. The Taino, the entree.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:16 PM (+7/1f)

252 248 Just read that obese judge article in the sidebar. Yeesh!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:15 PM (Id9+

The poor people who have to work there and clean up after her.

We finally found a job worse than being Hillary's gynecologist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:16 PM (YmDtf)

253 So the Left Left says we can't control our Borders using Religion as a litmus test, but we can when it comes to asphalt?

Posted by: Nevergiveup

--

Let's make the wall out of asphalt.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2017 02:16 PM (7ZVPa)

254 You know what goes real good with paste? Pulverized tire bits. A little hard to chew but boy do they make you regular....in BM department.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (npdX6)

255 That's like choosing if you'd rather die of Alzheimer's or ALS.

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You know that crocodile-fvcker the other night? He died of GatorAIDS.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (Nwg0u)

256 The Caribs (as in Caribbean) were the cannibals. The Taino, the entree.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:16 PM (+7/1f)

Well, that does explain why they're extinct.

But all cultures are equally good and valid, I've been assured.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (YmDtf)

257 You cannot deny my liberty on the grounds that someone else might get it too.
Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:15 PM (lwiT4)

Wow that was way more polite than what I typed and deleted.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (mf5HN)

258 Let's not allow the Lutherans their constitutional rights because someone else might grab a handful as well.

This makes about as much sense as outlawing guns for good guys because some bad guys might buy them too.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (lwiT4)

259 Test

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (tJeKM)

260 But all cultures are equally good and valid, I've been assured.

***

Except white people, of course. They're evil.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:18 PM (GEpFD)

261 The obese judge thing reminds me of the judge that blew off criminal court appearances as a defendant. How do these people get into the position of judge to begin with???

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:18 PM (39g3+)

262 Just read that obese judge article in the sidebar. Yeesh!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:15 PM (Id9+

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So did I, and boy I wish I hadn't. Ugh.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Mastering the Art of Moron Cooking at June 26, 2017 02:18 PM (sBOL1)

263 Good. Money for playgrounds is not an effort by the government to establish a state religion. The Establishment Clause is about establishment, just like it says, not a prohibition on any/all association between the church/state.

Posted by: forest at June 26, 2017 02:18 PM (4ExtI)

264 Also, I would like to introduce my new unicorn, Stabby, to the Horde.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM

How are the velociraptors taking the new addition? Any jealousy?

Will part of Stabby's porfolio include The List?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 26, 2017 02:19 PM (DMUuz)

265 Test
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (tJeKM)

I give it a 92. Good beat, you can dance to it.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:19 PM (mf5HN)

266 >>>I can imagine all the conservatives rolling their eye's as she reads it and at the end Chief Roberts "Okaaaay then..moving on"

LOL

Posted by: concrete girl at June 26, 2017 02:19 PM (EqvVS)

267 Also, I would like to introduce my new unicorn, Stabby, to the Horde.

Neigh!

Posted by: Stabby Unicorn from Cabin In The Woods at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (Baw4l)

268 Roberts looks to have a gay beard.

That said. Obamacare is loved by DC. Few if any DC insiders and power brokers dislike Obamacare. Similar to LBJs Great Society programs. GOPe didn't want to vote for it because it was unpopular in their States and Districts. They don't want to vote Obamacare out because they want the Federal Money to continue to flow.

Posted by: Mudd at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (cfHE9)

269 Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (Nwg0u)

And the Left is acting like he broke some hallowed American tradition. Ah, yes, we all remember reading about the Ramadan dinners held in the Grant and Coolidge White Houses.

Like the Left cares about hallowed American traditions.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (ZM2xo)

270 "About damn time comely young women admire physics."

Comely young women have always admired physics.

Unfortunately, though, it's the sort of physics involving romantic philosophical speculations, related verbally over a table at a trendy cafe.

The sort of physics requiring long late nights in a harshly lit lab calibrating and testing equipment, or spending whole weekends in study grinds through pages of difficult math?

Yeah, the comely young women will be in the trendy cafe talking about time travel and parallel universes, with the guy who took Physics For Poets 155.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (ujwCG)

271 262 Just read that obese judge article in the sidebar. Yeesh!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:15 PM (Id9+
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So did I, and boy I wish I hadn't. Ugh.

Posted by: bluebell ~ Mastering the Art of Moron Cooking at June 26, 2017 02:18 PM (sBOL1)

Good work if you can get it. I couldn't live with myself blimping up to 400 pounds though. That's just beyond disgusting.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (0mRoj)

272 But all cultures are equally good and valid, I've been assured.

"Some are tastier than other"
-Carib Indians

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (39g3+)

273 I saw Odious Taint open for Pussy Riot at the Manhole in 2013...

I thought Odious Taint was one of those obscure Roman emperors who got slaughtered by the Praetorian Guard.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (X6fMO)

274 #BlackTopMatters

Posted by: Clinically Insane Liberals at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (4AVeu)

275

This was a no-brainer, but this was another test of the left leaning justices.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (fceHP)

276 It's awful that Roberts voted for Obamacare. So awful in fact, that I will make sure the entire bill is "repealed" wink wink.
- Turtle

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (JN/qv)

277 The Caribs would kill the men, eat the boys and crones, and fuck the young women.

Great business model.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (+7/1f)

278 Remember that funny video where that lady had a crappy AR-15 knock-off and scared the thugs breaking into her home so bad one dropped his pistol and had to pick it up as they ran away? A gun made her the equal of three athletic young men in a fight.

Posted by: Mudd at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (cfHE9)

I remember. The lady had a Hi-Point carbine. They're inexpensive but reliable.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (Fw5cQ)

279 Speaking of odious taints, where's Bill Wynn?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (GEpFD)

280 >>> Interestingly, both this and the Muslim ban (shorthand) cases involve religion, with the Left wrong in both cases. They're all for religion when it involves foreigners, but dead set against it when it involves Americans.

Amen

Posted by: concrete girl at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (EqvVS)

281 273 I saw Odious Taint open for Pussy Riot at the Manhole in 2013...

I thought Odious Taint was one of those obscure Roman emperors who got slaughtered by the Praetorian Guard.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (X6fMO)

Original frontman for GWAR

Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (0mRoj)

282 235, "For those of us who work in marbled halls, guarded

constantly by a vigilant and dedicated police force, the

guarantees of the Second Amendment might seem antiquated and
superfluous. But the Framers made a clear choice: They reserved to all
Americans the right to bear arms for self-defense. I do not think we
should stand by idly while a State denies its citizens that right,
particularly when their very lives may depend on it. I respectfully
dissent. "

Nice.

Posted by: WisRich at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (G0vdT)
This needs to be framed. Fantastic.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (a0IVu)

283 #AssFault

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2017 02:22 PM (7n4KQ)

284 259 Test
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2017 02:17 PM (tJeKM)

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B+

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:22 PM (JN/qv)

285 Who Sotomayer?
She's Puerto Rican so it's either Taino--a cannibal tribe that's pretty much extinct, or Boriqua.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (7uYFy)

Yeah, but that's a kind of Mexican, right?
Posted by: Christopher Moltisanti at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (7HtZB)

Say that to a Puerto Rican. They are touchy and prideful lot....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:22 PM (7uYFy)

286 The Caribs would kill the men, eat the boys and crones

"Mmm old long pig stringy and tough. Make the pajama boys eat that."
-Carib Indian

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:22 PM (39g3+)

287 It's like planned parenthood, right? They insist they should be funded because they do more than abortion.

Well, this here school does more than religion.

Hoist em on their own retarded logic

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2017 02:22 PM (tJeKM)

288 269 Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:14 PM (Nwg0u)

And the Left is acting like he broke some hallowed American tradition. Ah, yes, we all remember reading about the Ramadan dinners held in the Grant and Coolidge White Houses.

Like the Left cares about hallowed American traditions.
Posted by: Donna and V.

Can you guess who started the tradition?

"Hillary Clinton, when she was first lady, resurrected the event in February 1996, hosting about 150 people for a reception for Eid al-Fitr, which marks the end of the holy month."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/26/ donald-trump-abandons-traditional-white-house-ramadan-celebration

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (DQ4Fv)

289 How are the velociraptors taking the new addition? Any jealousy?

Will part of Stabby's porfolio include The List?
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 26, 2017 02:19 PM (DMUuz)

Oh they're all great pals with the stabbing and the chomping and the glavin.

And I could tell but where would the fun be in that for me?

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (mf5HN)

290 I haven't met this Gorsuch fellow, but I have a feeling his pants must have quite a sharp crease!

Posted by: moronhorde minion at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (88jeI)

291 231 This answers my question: who is worse, Sotomayor or Kagan?

Posted by: SFGoth at June 26, 2017 02:12 PM (dZ756)

++++

Sotomayor is a reliable leftist hack. She will always vote the leftist line. But, she is a moron. She will never construct a convincing legal theory or swing anyone over to her side through the power of her argument.

Kagan is more dangerous. Kagan is intelligent. She won't just sign on to an blatantly partisan argument. But, she can come up with innovative arguments that give cover to the leftist position. However, she can be boxed in by a need to be intellectually consistent.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (WzbqD)

292 Gah. Forgot to sock my last comment.

Posted by: moronhorde minion at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (88jeI)

293 "Hillary Clinton, when she was first lady, resurrected the event in February 1996, hosting about 150 people for a reception for Eid al-Fitr, which marks the end of the holy month."

OK, the Beast "resurrected" it, but who started it?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (GEpFD)

294 277 The Caribs would kill the men, eat the boys and crones, and fuck the young women.

Great business model.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (+7/1f)

Nonsense. All Native Americans were peaceful people, in perfect harmony with nature, and morally superior to the white man in every way.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2017 02:24 PM (0mRoj)

295 "Taino--a cannibal tribe that's pretty much extinct,"

The Caribs (as in Caribbean) were the cannibals. The Taino, the entree.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:16 PM (+7/1f)

Yes, I stand corrected....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:24 PM (7uYFy)

296 "Hillary Clinton, when she was first lady, resurrected the event in February 1996, hosting about 150 people for a reception for Eid al-Fitr, which marks the end of the holy month."

Should have held the reception in the departure lounge at the airport.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:24 PM (YmDtf)

297 278 Remember that funny video where that lady had a crappy AR-15 knock-off and scared the thugs breaking into her home so bad one dropped his pistol and had to pick it up as they ran away? A gun made her the equal of three athletic young men in a fight.

Posted by: Mudd at June 26, 2017 02:13 PM (cfHE9)

I remember. The lady had a Hi-Point carbine. They're inexpensive but reliable.
Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (Fw5cQ)

____

And this stuff happens all the time. But you'll never see statistics on this, since nobody tallies up the "scared off an intruder when he saw my gun" incidents. Just having a gun and never actually firing it probably saves tens of thousands of lives a year. Plus thousands of rapes, assaults, etc.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:24 PM (JN/qv)

298 Gorsuch has validated my vote and support for PDT. Now how about them yankees?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (5y11N)

299 277 The Caribs would kill the men, eat the boys and crones, and fuck the young women.

Great business model.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (+7/1f)

Now don't deprecate Carib cuisine.

H8ter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (YmDtf)

300 Trying to type on Kindle Fire. Won't be commenting much on this trip, but will lurk!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (tJeKM)

301 When did Money from a State, become Liberty?

Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (NgKpN)

302 Sotomayor is a reliable leftist hack. She will always vote the leftist line. But, she is a moron. She will never construct a convincing legal theory or swing anyone over to her side through the power of her argument.

Kagan is more dangerous. Kagan is intelligent. She won't just sign on to an blatantly partisan argument. But, she can come up with innovative arguments that give cover to the leftist position. However, she can be boxed in by a need to be intellectually consistent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (WzbqD)

This. This is why I thought her appointment was the worse of the two, because she'd be more effective when trying to sway current or future moderates.

Plus, ringer for the softball team.

Posted by: moronhorde minion at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (88jeI)

303 Good work if you can get it. I couldn't live with myself blimping up to 400 pounds though. That's just beyond disgusting.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (0mRoj)

Yeah, but becoming a Democrat would be fucking impossible.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (Id9+8)

304 Can you guess who started the tradition?

"Hillary Clinton, when she was first lady, resurrected the event in February 1996, hosting about 150 people for a reception for Eid al-Fitr, which marks the end of the holy month."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/26/ donald-trump-abandons-traditional-white-house-ramadan-celebration
Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (DQ4Fv)

So Bush the Younger didn't rescind it. How telling.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (ujg0T)

305 However, she can be boxed in by a need to be intellectually consistent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (WzbqD)

Wait - I thought she was a Democrat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (YmDtf)

306 The Caribs would kill the men, eat the boys and crones, and fuck the young women.

Great business model.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (+7/1f)

No, no no. All Natives were peace loving and in commune with Earth Mother Gaia and never even had a violent thought in their peace loving skulls until ColumbusHitler showed up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (493sH)

307 301 When did Money from a State, become Liberty?

Posted by: Don Q. at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (NgKpN)

___

That is an interesting interpretation.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (JN/qv)

308 276 It's awful that Roberts voted for Obamacare. So awful in fact, that I will make sure the entire bill is "repealed" wink wink.
- Turtle
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (JN/qv)

His exact words were "Obamacare should be repealed root and branch." The Turtle is a bald-faced liar, root and branch.

*spit*

Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (wtcDM)

309 Speaking of odious taints, where's Bill Wynn?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:21 PM (GEpFD)

Bill has been grounded from the internet for being naughty. And not in a good way.

Posted by: Mrs. Bill Wynn, Duchess of the Deplorable Chamber of Commerce at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (Id9+8)

310 When I was a kid, many of my classmates at my Lutheran hs were there to escape the forced busing to other school districts that the school boards had so wisely decreed. So you had more kids getting a religious education than would otherwise.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (FQKBL)

311 I guess the Aztec only pays for goods with credit cards, since the currency has 'God' on it?
========

She's Puerto Rican, no?

Please don't categorize her with the Aztecs. At least they were able to build a splendid city in the middle of a swamp.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 26, 2017 02:27 PM (vg8iE)

312 All Natives were peace loving and in commune with Earth Mother Gaia and never even had a violent thought in their peace loving skulls until ColumbusHitler showed up

***

And brought them heap big firewater.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:27 PM (GEpFD)

313 So Bush the Younger didn't rescind it. How telling.

Yeah the whole Bush doctrine of reaching across to the enemy, finding a way to compromise, showing good faith, etc. Winning hearts and minds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:27 PM (39g3+)

314 OK, the Beast "resurrected" it, but who started it?
Posted by: CLINT FLICKER

Hillary started it.

The Left is trying to claim, in tueir usually dishonest revisionist way, that a state dinner the Thomas Jefferson hosted for the Tunisian ambassador in 1805 counts as the "first White House Ramadan dinner," but of course it was no such thing, and between 1805 and 1996 there were exactly ZERO recurrences of this "tradition."

It's all Hillary idea, from scratch. Bush stupidly continued it as part of his absurd "Islam is a religion of peace" campaign, and then of course The O did it because he is a Muslim.

All Hail Trump!

Posted by: zombie at June 26, 2017 02:27 PM (DQ4Fv)

315 303 Good work if you can get it. I couldn't live with myself blimping up to 400 pounds though. That's just beyond disgusting.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (0mRoj)

Yeah, but becoming a Democrat would be fucking impossible.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (Id9+

Well, that too.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (0mRoj)

316 Kagan will also vote with the Right when they already have five or more votes. Sonya would rather virtue signal with a losing dissent.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (+7/1f)

317 When I was a kid, many of my classmates at my Lutheran hs were there to escape the forced busing to other school districts that the school boards had so wisely decreed. So you had more kids getting a religious education than would otherwise.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at June 26, 2017 02:26 PM (FQKBL)

Well, they missed out on learning about other cultures, and also about street fighting.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (YmDtf)

318 Kagan is more dangerous. Kagan is intelligent. She won't just sign on to an blatantly partisan argument. But, she can come up with innovative arguments that give cover to the leftist position. However, she can be boxed in by a need to be intellectually consistent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (WzbqD)

This. This is why I thought her appointment was the worse of the two, because she'd be more effective when trying to sway current or future moderates.

Plus, ringer for the softball team.
Posted by: moronhorde minion at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM (88jeI)

Have to disagree somewhat. At least Kagan is taking the judicial process *seriously*

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (ujg0T)

319 Nonsense. All Native Americans were peaceful people, in perfect harmony with nature, and morally superior to the white man in every way.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 26, 2017 02:24 PM (0mRoj)

Hate was just a legend. And war was never known...
The people worked together. And they lifted many stones
They carried them to the flatland. But they died along the way.
And they built with their bare hands what we still can't do today...
(endless glorious guitar-soloing...)

Posted by: Neil Young &Crazy Horse at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (7uYFy)

320 313 So Bush the Younger didn't rescind it. How telling.

Yeah the whole Bush doctrine of reaching across to the enemy, finding a way to compromise, showing good faith, etc. Winning hearts and minds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:27 PM (39g3+)

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And yet he was STILL vilified as a blood thirsty hater of brown people by the MSM. 8 years and he never understood that. And most GOPers still don't.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (JN/qv)

321 quaint New England churches

Burlington NJ St. Mary's 1702.

Posted by: DaveA at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (FhXTo)

322 But all cultures are equally good and valid, I've been assured.

"Some are tastier than other"
-Carib Indians

-
Black Angus are best,

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:29 PM (Nwg0u)

323 >>Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

That is so great.

Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau wore Ramdan-themed socks to a Pride event and said "Pride Mubarak!!" as if these two things were compatible.
Let's just take a moment to enjoy that Canada' Obama is now using socks to virtue-signal, one-upping the idiot Maddie Albright's brooches.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:29 PM (NOIQH)

324 291
Sotomayor is a reliable leftist hack. She will always vote the leftist line. But, she is a moron. She will never construct a convincing legal theory or swing anyone over to her side through the power of her argument.

Kagan is more dangerous. Kagan is intelligent. She won't just sign on to an blatantly partisan argument. But, she can come up with innovative arguments that give cover to the leftist position. However, she can be boxed in by a need to be intellectually consistent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 26, 2017 02:23 PM (WzbqD)

============

So Kagan can be dealt with Sotomayor can't.

I'd rather have Kagan on the court for decades rather than Sotomayor.

I think I'd also prefer Kagan in front of me in a buffet line, but that's another matter entirely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:29 PM (ZMD96)

325 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t leave the USA over the immigration decision.

When you want sharp, insightful, and discerning political analysis, you turn to Whoopi Goldberg and that other one, and the old one. Whoever they are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:29 PM (39g3+)

326 >Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

It's NOT traditional

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:30 PM (5y11N)

327 The Court ruled in favor of Lutherans today. Could easily be for Islam tomorrow. And will be - sooner rather than later.

They'd have done that anyway.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2017 02:30 PM (xAvrH)

328 Cortez...what a killer

Posted by: Neil Young &Crazy Horse at June 26, 2017 02:30 PM (7uYFy)

329 Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

Is that before or after the Ifasphalt dinner?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:30 PM (YmDtf)

330 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 26, 2017 02:25 PM

travel safe, enjoy, and congrats on last monday!

Posted by: concrete girl at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (EqvVS)

331 But the hopscotch pattern is in the shape of a cross!

Posted by: Wise Latina at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (EX4Wr)

332 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t[o] leave the USA over the immigration decision.

***

Dafuq?

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (GEpFD)

333 325 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t leave the USA over the immigration decision.

____

Wow.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (JN/qv)

334 Good grief. So much sophism, so little time.

Religious organizations can apply for grants and they cannot be excluded on the basis of being religious. They can be fairly judged to receive the grant on all other legal grounds.

You can't simply give out a grant to "schools" who need to be licensed and regulated, then alternately deny them money specifically designated for that group.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (M3pAJ)

335 This seems to be a potentially far reaching decision. Essentially the US Supreme Court has ruled part of Missouri's Constitution (as it pertains to state funds for religious institutions) as a violation of federal law. Of course a Republican governor had already indicated the funds would be provided in future regardless of the state Constitution. Interesting rule first by selective application and now by federal judicial fiat.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (OmhcY)

336 Meanwhile in the Pacific, Dora has reached hurricane status no word of Diego.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (V4nDv)

337 310 When I was a kid, many of my classmates at my Lutheran hs were there to escape the forced busing to other school districts

Wait--CAN busing happen across school districts? All busing I remember or have studied was within a district. Which stimulated either private schooling or moving to other school districts.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (ujg0T)

338 Meanwhile in the Pacific, Dora has reached hurricane status no word of Diego.

Swiper no swiping!!!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (tVWQB)

339 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t leave the USA over the immigration decision.

--

I'd pay good money to see that statue get up and walk.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (7ZVPa)

340 332 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t[o] leave the USA over the immigration decision.

***

Dafuq?
Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (GEpFD)

============

They think that inanimate objects have moral agency and independent action (re: guns), so obviously they believe that a huge statue is just going to get up and walk away when policy ends up going against what leftists want.

Maybe the statue would be okay with us going back to an Ellis Island system?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (ZMD96)

341 >>The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of
Liberty was going t[o] leave the USA over the immigration decision.

More like the Statue of Liberty was at risk of being bombed by immigrants from the countries named in Trump's travel pause.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (NOIQH)

342 Pull all the Health Care plans and let Fredocare die and implode of it's own inertia and aly the blame where it belongs at the feet of the Left

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (5y11N)

343 I thought Odious Taint was one of those obscure Roman emperors who got slaughtered by the Praetorian Guard.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 26, 2017 02:20 PM (X6fMO)

I haven't laughed that loud in weeks!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (Id9+8)

344 Black Angus are best,
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:29 PM (Nwg0u)

Oh, My....

Wait, "angus." Never mind.

Posted by: George Takei at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (7HtZB)

345 The View. Feh. What a steaming pile of covfefe.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (GEpFD)

346 Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau wore Ramdan-themed socks

What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (qJhUV)

347 "the Supremes just invalidated part of a longstanding State
Constitutional prohibition.... one that is popular enough that it has
something like it in 30 of our 50 States.."

I dunno that I'd call these provisions "popular". If I'm not mistaken, the MO law and those like it in other states generally date from the late 19th or early 20th century and are often referred to as "Blaine amendments", in memory of James G. Blaine, who ran against Grover Cleveland for prez in 1884 (and lost) and labeled the Democrats the party of "rum, Romanism and rebellion". They date from an era when Catholics and their parochial schools were seen as an icky, foreign existential threat to the body politic, and are not necessarily of recent vintage. However, today's hardcore secularists probably have enough pull to prevent them from being repealed in many states.

Posted by: Secret Square at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (+HoK2)

348 You cannot deny my liberty on the grounds that someone else might get it too.
Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:15 PM (lwiT4)

Don't be surprised when your exact same phrasing is used by Progressives ... against your wishes. Seems to me that everything comes down pretty simply;

Federal over-rules State when we like it ... Good !!!
Federal over-rules State when we don't ... Bad !!!

Next Court Session ... some edict or another will come out extolling the Liberties of some Democrat over the wishes of a Red State - and there'll be no end of cries of State's Rights and little R republicanism.

But let's just be honest - most people like it here when the Federal intervenes in favor of Christianity. And most hate it when the Federal intervenes in favor of Secularists and Atheists.

To me ... it's just Big Government Intervention either way.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (tRLIC)

349 Interesting rule first by selective application and now by federal judicial fiat.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (OmhcY)

It's not federal law, it is the Constitution, which is the Supreme law of the land. You should check it out.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (tbOMB)

350 Screw the Statue of Liberty. Tear it down put up a machine gun and mortar base there in preparation for MYC becoming a huge prison

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (5y11N)

351 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear
that the Statue of Liberty was going t leave the USA over the
immigration decision.

--

I'd pay good money to see that statue get up and walk.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (7ZVPa)

Ghostbusters 2!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (JO9+V)

352 I'd pay good money to see that statue get up and walk.

"Yeah that's what we figured too, but..."
--Akroyd and Ramis after Ghostbusters 2

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (39g3+)

353 346 Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau wore Ramdan-themed socks

What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?
Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (qJhUV)

____

Just a guess but bombs exploding?

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (JN/qv)

354 "She's Puerto Rican so it's either Taino--a cannibal tribe that's pretty much extinct, or Boriqua."

More likely some conquistador raped a 13 year old west african slave girl and then dumped her on the beach to be raised by Jack Sparrow's pals.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (OmOvC)

355 "Essentially the US Supreme Court has ruled part of Missouri's Constitution (as it pertains to state funds for religious institutions) as a violation of federal law."

I'd say superseded. e.g., A state can't add a racially discriminatory provision to its constitution.

Narrowly construed, this was an easy decision actually. To decide otherwise would be to discriminate against someone solely because of religious beliefs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (+7/1f)

356 Swiper no swiping!!!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (tVWQB)

Aahhhh, man!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (tbOMB)

357 348
To me ... it's just Big Government Intervention either way.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (tRLIC)

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Welcome to a post 14th amendment world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (ZMD96)

358 I'd pay good money to see that statue get up and walk.

...and then. she'd have to swim!

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (qJhUV)

359 339 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t leave the USA over the immigration decision.

--

I'd pay good money to see that statue get up and walk.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2017 02:32 PM (7ZVPa)

You'd be the only one.

Posted by: Ghostbusters 2 at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (7HtZB)

360 Doesn't anyone care about what I think anymore?

Posted by: Justice Merrick Garland, Washington, DC at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (4AVeu)

361 Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

It's NOT traditional
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:30 PM (5y11N)

I actually heard some asshole on the radio say that this dinner has been a tradition since Jefferson.
Supposedly he was hosting a pair of Turkish diplomats and invited them to the WH for dinner. They accepted but said that --because of Ramadan--they couldn't eat until sundown. So Jefferson said, "No problem, stop by then..."

It was NOT an Iftar dinner. And it didn't begin a tradition.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (7uYFy)

362 What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?
Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (qJhUV)

They look like cloven hooves.

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (7n4KQ)

363 >>What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?

I know, right?
Scroll down for a close-up of the socks:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycx8m9wc

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (NOIQH)

364 These freaken reporters are damn near imbiciles

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (5y11N)

365 But let's just be honest - most people like it here when the Federal intervenes in favor of Christianity. And most hate it when the Federal intervenes in favor of Secularists and Atheists.

Perhaps you could explain how that happened here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:36 PM (39g3+)

366 Better question for Missouri:

Why the fuck is the state paying for playgrounds in the first place, whether religious or not?

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:36 PM (JN/qv)

367 Looking forward to the "wall between church and state" screamers. I always ask them to quote it for me from the constitution.

Posted by: dagny at June 26, 2017 02:36 PM (wQp4D)

368 361 I actually heard some asshole on the radio say that this dinner has been a tradition since Jefferson.
Supposedly he was hosting a pair of Turkish diplomats and invited them to the WH for dinner. They accepted but said that --because of Ramadan--they couldn't eat until sundown. So Jefferson said, "No problem, stop by then..."

It was NOT an Iftar dinner. And it didn't begin a tradition.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (7uYFy)

============

All I know is "separation of church and state" is totes in the Constitution.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:36 PM (ZMD96)

369 Didja see that that h8r Trump refuses to host the traditional end of Ramadan Iftar dinner?

It's NOT traditional
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:30 PM (5y11N)

I actually heard some asshole on the radio say that this dinner has been a tradition since Jefferson.
Supposedly he was hosting a pair of Turkish diplomats and invited them to the WH for dinner. They accepted but said that --because of Ramadan--they couldn't eat until sundown. So Jefferson said, "No problem, stop by then..."

It was NOT an Iftar dinner. And it didn't begin a tradition.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:35 PM (7uYFy)

the Jefferson story is bullshit and only 3 Presidents have had one.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2017 02:36 PM (5y11N)

370 311. Well, the first one sank into the swamp. The second one burned down, fell iver, and sank into the swamp. But the third one....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 26, 2017 02:37 PM (TwwWO)

371 What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?

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They have C4 pockets sewn in

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2017 02:37 PM (7ZVPa)

372 370 311. Well, the first one sank into the swamp. The second one burned down, fell iver, and sank into the swamp. But the third one....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 26, 2017 02:37 PM (TwwWO)

==========

That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp.

But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:38 PM (ZMD96)

373 Reason #4647 I'm glad my days in the food service industry were brief: the local Twin Peaks is in the process of burning down.Wordon the street isthey fired an employee this morning. He returned a few hours later, rammed his vehicle into the building, then jumped out and poured gas all over the place and set it ablaze.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 26, 2017 02:38 PM (uiwCw)

374 >>the Jefferson story is bullshit and only 3 Presidents have had one.

Just like how they twist Thanksgiving to justify letting in refugees.

The Left has no legit historical support for what they want, so they make it up.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2017 02:38 PM (NOIQH)

375 All I know is "separation of church and state" is totes in the Constitution.

***

Hey, remember all those times Jesse Jackson ran for president and all the lefties were bleating about the separation of church and state?

Yeah, neither do I.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:38 PM (GEpFD)

376 Huh on the fall docket for the SCOTUS is the Masterpiece Cakeshop case.

Another bit of tyranny that needs to be nuked from orbit with prejudice.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:38 PM (V4nDv)

377 "nd are often referred to as "Blaine amendments", in memory of James G. Blaine, who ran against Grover Cleveland for prez in 1884 (and lost) and labeled the Democrats the party of "rum, Romanism and rebellion". They date from an era when Catholics and their parochial schools were seen as an icky, foreign existential threat to the body politic,"

This lingers to this day, especially in the Northeast, and which is why Catholics still have issues with voting Republican.

Trump has been rebranding the R party in ways that are more inclusive.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:38 PM (+7/1f)

378 I actually heard some asshole on the radio say that this dinner has been a tradition since Jefferson.

Yes. Someone make me believe that Andrew Jackson had an Iftar dinner.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (B+qrE)

379 0 When I was a kid, many of my classmates at my Lutheran hs were there to escape the forced busing to other school districts "

Catholic Schools were thriving during the time of court-forced busing....even non-Catholics in my neighborhood were sending their kids there...

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (7uYFy)

380 And yet he was STILL vilified as a blood thirsty hater of brown people by the MSM. 8 years and he never understood that. And most GOPers still don't.
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (JN/qv)

They are only going to smear us anyway. The Rule Of Anyway.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (ujg0T)

381 333
325 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of
Liberty was going t leave the USA over the immigration decision.

____

Wow.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:31 PM (JN/qv)

You know, if you keep watching that shit, you can actually feel your IQ draining out of your brain, 'Flowers for Algernon'-style.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (8iiMU)

382 Why the fuck is the state paying for playgrounds in the first place, whether religious or not?Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:36 PM (JN/qv)
Who the hell knows? I know the state pays for school buses and that kids in religious schools should be able to ride them and should be able to play on public schools sports teams. Relgious school students should also be able to take HS summer school classes offered by the public school.

Posted by: dagny at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (wQp4D)

383 378 I actually heard some asshole on the radio say that this dinner has been a tradition since Jefferson.

Yes. Someone make me believe that Andrew Jackson had an Iftar dinner.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (B+qrE)

=============

I'll believe Jackson had one before Tyler.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (ZMD96)

384 >>>>> Irony to Sotomayor's dissent is that she went to Catholic schools in The Bronx, which was her springboard to going to Princeton. Gratitude, no?
~~~~~

More irony: Cardinal Spellman High School (my alma mater) has nothing but praise for their most famous alumnus notwithstanding her ruling today, and her position on abortion. Idiots.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (HiDrR)

385 346 Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau wore Ramdan-themed socks

What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?
Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (qJhUV)

The 3,496th holiest shrine in Islam. Or else blasphemy.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (RD7QR)

386 It was NOT an Iftar dinner

Man, that movie sucked. Really sucked. Dustin Hoffman in particular.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2017 02:39 PM (tVWQB)

387 But I will never understand why you need to show PRIDE in being gay. It's like me saying I'm proud of the fact I'm right handed or proud that I have brown hair.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (JN/qv)

388 From the MO Contsitution:

"Neither the general assembly, nor any county, city, town, township, school district or other municipal corporation, shall ever make an appropriation or pay from any public fund whatever, anything in aid of any religious creed, church or sectarian purpose, or to help to support or sustain any private or public school, academy, seminary, college, university, or other institution of learning controlled by any religious creed, church or sectarian denomination whatever; nor shall any grant or donation of personal property or real estate ever be made by the state, or any county, city, town, or other municipal corporation, for any religious creed, church, or sectarian purpose whatever."

Now, apparently mostly irrelevant.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (OmhcY)

389 It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

Posted by: Justice Merrick Garland, Washington, DC at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (4AVeu)

390 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t leave the USA over the immigration decision.

--

I'd pay good money to see that statue get up and walk.

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Take it off, baby!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (Nwg0u)

391 I actually heard some asshole on the radio say that this dinner has been a tradition since Jefferson.

You remember when the Marines Jefferson sent to Tripoli had an "Iftar" dinner for the surviving pirates after they finished kicking the pirates' asses?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (YmDtf)

392 What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?
Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (qJhUV)

They would look great with my magic underwear....

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 26, 2017 02:41 PM (7uYFy)

393 "353
346 Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau wore Ramdan-themed socks"

I read this as "Justin Trudeau sucked Ramadan-Themed cocks"

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:41 PM (OmOvC)

394 You remember when the Marines Jefferson sent to Tripoli had an "Iftar" dinner for the surviving pirates after they finished kicking the pirates' asses?

***

RBG does. She was there.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:41 PM (GEpFD)

395 389 It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!
Posted by: Justice Merrick Garland, Washington, DC at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (4AVeu)

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Eh...he just went back to his job with dignity, at least in public.

Maybe he's crying like a little girl in private. I mean, how many judges get that close to SCOTUS without actually getting there?

Maybe Robert Bork can console him a little.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 26, 2017 02:41 PM (ZMD96)

396 What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (qJhUV)

He must be planning to throw a shoe at someone. An old tradition.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 26, 2017 02:41 PM (Id9+8)

397 387 But I will never understand why you need to show PRIDE in being gay.
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (JN/qv)

As I said above, if you're proud of THAT, what are you not so proud of?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:42 PM (YmDtf)

398 More irony: Cardinal Spellman High School (my alma mater) has nothing
but praise for their most famous alumnus notwithstanding her ruling
today, and her position on abortion. Idiots.

Oh, I'm sure she's a "devout" Catholic...

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:42 PM (qJhUV)

399 Trudeau and Macron - I'd be hard pressed to find two more effeminate male leaders. Both desperately in need of some testosterone infusion.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 02:42 PM (a0IVu)

400 "Reason #4647 I'm glad my days in the food service industry were brief: the local Twin Peaks is in the process of burning down.Wordon the street isthey fired an employee this morning. He returned a few hours later, rammed his vehicle into the building, then jumped out and poured gas all over the place and set it ablaze."

But you forgot the best part.

From the news report:

An armed civilian held the suspect at gunpoint till authorities arrived.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (J+eG2)

401 Well shit fire and fuck me running.
My schadenboner went out for a steak dinner and had 2, not 1 but 2 scoops of FUCK you leftist dickwads for dessert.

Posted by: Fox at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (DVC2D)

402 Hate was just a legend. And war was never known...
The people worked together. And they lifted many stones
They carried them to the flatland. But they died along the way.
And they built with their bare hands what we still can't do today...
(endless glorious guitar-soloing...)
Posted by: Neil Young &Crazy Horse at June 26, 2017 02:28 PM (7uYFy)

Did the Canadian national embarrassment actually write that? It strikes me as possible.
Actually the national embarrassment is Prime Minister Pretty Hair, Empty Head. And that would be a good title for a Chinese martial arts movie like Hidden Dragon, Crouching Tiger.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (hJrjt)

403 The female creatures on "The View" expressed fear that the Statue of Liberty was going t leave the USA over the immigration decision.

I would rather be attacked by several dozen Kodiak bears than watch The View. Giving credence to ignoramuses is one of the root causes of what ails the country.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (B+qrE)

404
"Now, apparently mostly irrelevant."

Yes, it is, because a State Constitution cannot override the Federal Constitution, especially concerning the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (OmOvC)

405 So according to the left:

Celebrating Ramadan in the WH: GOOD Separation of church and state

Giving money to Lutheran playgrounds: BAD Separation of church and state

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (JN/qv)

406 You remember when the Marines Jefferson sent to Tripoli had an "Iftar" dinner for the surviving pirates after they finished kicking the pirates' asses?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (YmDtf)

Reminds me of when Keith Ellison was sworn in on Thomas Jefferson's "Koran"--as though TJ was an admirer of Islam.
It was just one book out of 5,000 in his library....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (7uYFy)

407 399 Trudeau and Macron - I'd be hard pressed to find two more effeminate male leaders. Both desperately in need of some testosterone infusion.
Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 02:42 PM (a0IVu)

Common denominator? Hmmm. Both Frogs, albeit Trudeau is one at one remove.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (YmDtf)

408 I was happy to find out that the students at the parochial school here receive speech therapy from the speech therapist working for the public schools. I cannot help but think that is an apt analogy.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (EX4Wr)

409 But let's just be honest - most people like it here
when the Federal intervenes in favor of Christianity. And most hate it
when the Federal intervenes in favor of Secularists and Atheists.

To me ... it's just Big Government Intervention either way.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 02:34 PM (tRLIC)
=============================

I like it because the 1st Amendment acknowledges my right to conscience. If we don't have that - if we do not have the right to think for ourselves and believe as we wish, and to be free from State interference in that, then we don't have much of anything.

I don't know why any of us would want to see 1st Amendment rights restricted. To me, the whole point of the second amendment is to protect the first. The Court recognized that, in a limited way, today.

Yes - that may entail some danger. That comes along with living in a free society. "Interference" from the court in regards to freedom of religion is central to the whole thing. I am aware that the winds may shift. I am thankful for the justices who voted to uphold it today.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (lwiT4)

410 " Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau wore Ramdan-themed socks"

I read this as "Justin Trudeau sucked Ramadan-Themed cocks"

I've heard it both ways.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (J+eG2)

411 Has anyone in the Republican leadership come out with a statement on these two rulings?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (l4aLi)

412 She's Puerto Rican, no?

So, not Mexican mexican.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (baYK5)

413 Cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (EX4Wr)

414 The only reason the Federal government has the Moolah for playgrounds is because of an amendment that created the IRS. Thus Federal tentacles insinuate themselves into all aspects of life along with some idiot like Maxine Waters getting a brainstorm in the future to create a National Ramadan Socks Day.

Starve Fedzilla and such will vanish.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (V4nDv)

415 I guess they weren't districts in the traditional school sense, Curmudgeon. But then again for health and safety forces the City of Cleveland area is broken up into districts, so I imagine the schools are as well.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (FQKBL)

416 391 I actually heard some asshole on the radio say that this dinner has been a tradition since Jefferson.

As if acommodation of a diplomat / emissary from the then Ottoman Empire constituted an official White House celebration?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (ujg0T)

417 WAIT I THOUGHT TRUMP WAS A DEMOCRAT?

NOT A TRUE CONSERVATIVE

A GOOF

If god forbid, JEB had won he would have put up a fucking liberal piece of shit.

Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (jxw6R)

418 Trudeau and Macron - I'd be hard pressed to find two more effeminate male leaders. Both desperately in need of some testosterone infusion.

***

I hear they prefer their testosterone in suppository form IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (GEpFD)

419 From the news report: An armed civilian held the suspect at gunpoint till authorities arrived.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (J+eG2)

Hadn't heard that part yet, but I'm not surprised.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (uiwCw)

420 Trudeau and Macron - I'd be hard pressed to find two more effeminate male leaders.

Yeah you could easily see them doing the Ruby Rodd role in Fifth elememt down to the feminine scream when combat broke out

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (39g3+)

421 Did the Canadian national embarrassment actually write that? It strikes me as possible.
Actually the national embarrassment is Prime Minister Pretty Hair, Empty Head. And that would be a good title for a Chinese martial arts movie like Hidden Dragon, Crouching Tiger.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (hJrjt)

Yes, old Neil actually scribbled down those word for his otherwise great "Cortez the Killer"---a song that was actually banned in Spain.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (7uYFy)

422 Now, apparently mostly irrelevant.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (OmhcY)

Well ... OK ... sure. Part of the Missouri State Constitution was smacked down today. But it was to the benefit of a group we like - so Win !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (tRLIC)

423 http://www.wrdw.com/content/news/Twin-Peaks-restaurant-in-Augusta-on-fire-430886653.html

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (J+eG2)

424 I was happy to find out that the students at the
parochial school here receive speech therapy from the speech therapist
working for the public schools. I cannot help but think that is an apt
analogy.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (EX4Wr)
===========================

Yep. Every school aged child is entitled to speech therapy or other special services, if shown to have a need in that area. I believe that law was passed in 1974 or so. I used to see a lot of parochial students.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (lwiT4)

425 214 I actually don't like this ruling and I'm going to tell you why--Muslims will use this to strengthen the position of THEIR schools.
Just wait.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:08 PM (7uYFy)

I had the same thought - if you like this ruling now, just wait for lawfare round 2 wherein you stop liking it.

Posted by: mx4 at June 26, 2017 02:46 PM (E+PBa)

426 "Trudeau and Macron - I'd be hard pressed to find two more effeminate
male leaders. Both desperately in need of some testosterone infusion."

Hmmm... I wonder just what it is exactly in their heritage that those two cheese eating surrender monkeys have in common..... Well, I guess just like the cause of most terrorist attacks today, it will always remain a mystery.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:46 PM (OmOvC)

427 When I was young and in a Catholic grammar school in The Bronx (just like Sonya) we got the same public transit bus passes as the kids in neighboring public schools. We later got their used text books.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:46 PM (+7/1f)

428 387 But I will never understand why you need to show PRIDE in being gay. It's like me saying I'm proud of the fact I'm right handed or proud that I have brown hair.
Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (JN/qv)

More like you're "proud" that your dick likes vagina or, if female, vice versa.

What I really don't get is the clothing/or not choices that go along with this "pride".

Posted by: dagny at June 26, 2017 02:47 PM (wQp4D)

429 420, Yeah you could easily see them doing the Ruby Rodd role in Fifth elememt down to the feminine scream when combat broke out

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (39g3+)
I totally pictured that in mind as I was reading your comment...I think Trudeau will scream louder.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 02:47 PM (a0IVu)

430 Yes, it is, because a State Constitution cannot override the Federal Constitution, especially concerning the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (OmOvC)
------------------------
Must be Amendment 1A: "No religious institution should be denied government funding except for prayer books, yarmulkes, wine, and wafers."

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:47 PM (OmhcY)

431 Keith Ellison was sworn in on Thomas Jefferson's "Koran"--as though TJ was an admirer of Islam.
It was just one book out of 5,000 in his library

yeah, I have a Koran. I collect religious books and read them when I can. There is stuff to admire and reject in all of them, utlimately.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:47 PM (39g3+)

432 The only real question in this is:

Is the school accredited by the state (as a school)?

If so, then the school is a "school" in the state's eyes and must be treated as such. This ain't rocket science.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 02:47 PM (rZ+mb)

433 What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?

-
I figure they have little bandoliers for tiny sticks of dynamite.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (Nwg0u)

434 Also Rudy Rodd was funny.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (V4nDv)

435 Yes, old Neil actually scribbled down those word for his otherwise great "Cortez the Killer"---a song that was actually banned in Spain.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (7uYFy)

Fun fact: Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs' brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid.

And Cortez & Co. weren't exactly faggots.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (YmDtf)

436 Trudeau and Macron - I'd be hard pressed to find two more effeminate male leaders. Both desperately in need of some testosterone infusion.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 02:42 PM (a0IVu)

Too bad Bathhouse Barry wasn't there to butch things up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (493sH)

437 425 214 I actually don't like this ruling and I'm going to tell you why--Muslims will use this to strengthen the position of THEIR schools.
Just wait.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:08 PM (7uYFy)

I had the same thought - if you like this ruling now, just wait for lawfare round 2 wherein you stop liking it.
Posted by: mx4 at June 26, 2017 02:46 PM (E+PBa)

Sometimes, a school playground--is just a school playground.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (ujg0T)

438 "I would rather be attacked by several dozen Kodiak bears than watch The View. Giving credence to ignoramuses is one of the root causes of what ails the country."

Jedediah Bila is pretty hot, but her Instagram account has lots of sexy pictures to enjoy without having to endure those other cows.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (OD2ni)

439 I used to have the "s" problem. Cured by the end of 5th grade. I have an older brother (I probably learned it from him) that still has the problem. Parochial school in the 50s.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2017 02:49 PM (EX4Wr)

440 yeah, I have a Koran. I collect religious books and read them when I can. There is stuff to admire and reject in all of them, utlimately.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:47 PM (39g3+)

Two points:

1) the koran is not a religious text. It's a political text.

2) There's nothing to admire in the koran.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 02:49 PM (rZ+mb)

441 414 The only reason the Federal government has the Moolah for playgrounds is because of an amendment that created the IRS. Thus Federal tentacles insinuate themselves into all aspects of life along with some idiot like Maxine Waters getting a brainstorm in the future to create a National Ramadan Socks Day.

Starve Fedzilla and such will vanish.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (V4nDv)

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I agree with your overall point. But in this case it was the state of Missouri paying for playgrounds.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:49 PM (JN/qv)

442 Fun fact: Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs' brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid.

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So they slaughtered them all just to prove their moral superiority!

I keed, I keed.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:49 PM (GEpFD)

443 "Odious" heh. I thought that was only used to describe this place...oh wait..that odorous..unless the 'ettes are here then its heavenly sweet.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2017 02:49 PM (7iUYS)

444 I'd pay good money to see that statue get up and walk.

It's quantum locked. As long as it's being observed, it can't move.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 02:49 PM (Hk/NM)

445 "Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs' brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid."

See Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Great flick, fantastic direction.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (+7/1f)

446 Hmm...bus explosion in Paris..breaking

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (a0IVu)

447 If so, then the school is a "school" in the state's eyes and must be treated as such.
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Other than the "inconvenience" of their state constitution which says otherwise.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (OmhcY)

448 Two points:

1) the koran is not a religious text. It's a political text.

2) There's nothing to admire in the koran.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 02:49 PM (rZ+mb)

I hear Sheryl Crow only uses one page at a time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (YmDtf)

449 See Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Great flick, fantastic direction.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (+7/1f)

Finally saw it. Truly awesome.
The man makes great movies.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (7uYFy)

450 I had the same thought - if you like this ruling now, just wait for lawfare round 2 wherein you stop liking it.

Posted by: mx4 at June 26, 2017 02:46 PM (E+PBa)
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Use that argument in regards to gun rights

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (lwiT4)

451 It's quantum locked. As long as it's being observed, it can't move.

***

Ah, another Whovian, I see. I assume Vashta Nerada is one as well.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (GEpFD)

452 I actually don't like this ruling and I'm going to tell you why--Muslims will use this to strengthen the position of THEIR schools.
Just wait.

That's the price of liberty. Stuff we don't like gets protected, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (39g3+)

453 Ramadan themed socks... so, Premierhad them under his feet? someone should tell him what this means in Arab / Islamic culture.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (vJSt5)

454 Fun fact: Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs' brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid.

And Cortez & Co. weren't exactly faggots.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (YmDtf)

Did they ever figure out the Aztec's intent or motive?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (493sH)

455 "Hmm...bus explosion in Paris..breaking "

it happens

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (J+eG2)

456 Mayans used to play a form of Jai Lai mixed with Lacrosse with human heads.

The savages were never ever noble.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (V4nDv)

457 bus explosion in Paris

Son of a bitch.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (B+qrE)

458
So once more: Gorsuch would have gone farther.

No John Roberts taint on this one.
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Fair enough Gorsuch was an actual win for us not merely the senate gop wanting respect from its peers.

Any chance we could get another one of those lawasuits to repeal Obama/Ryancare going?

Posted by: Methos at June 26, 2017 02:52 PM (3Liv/)

459 455 "Hmm...bus explosion in Paris..breaking "

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I'm already in fear for the phantom backlash against muslims that will never happen.

Posted by: #neverskankles at June 26, 2017 02:52 PM (JN/qv)

460 455 "Hmm...bus explosion in Paris..breaking "

it happens

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (J+eG2)

They will have to learn to absorb these things.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at June 26, 2017 02:52 PM (l4aLi)

461 bus explosion in Paris

Son of a bitch.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (B+qrE)

But Ramadan's over. Will they still get credit for it?

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:52 PM (7uYFy)

462 See Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Great flick, fantastic direction.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (+7/1f)

I'm still deeply, deeply amused by the people who were just horrified, HORRIFIED, by the violence in a movie about the Mayans.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:52 PM (mf5HN)

463 That's the price of liberty. Stuff we don't like gets protected, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (39g3+)
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And now, in a new and improved public policy, funded as well.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:52 PM (OmhcY)

464 Other than the "inconvenience" of their state constitution which says otherwise.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (OmhcY)

If their state constitution had some problem with the school then it never should have been accredited as a school. But once the state made this determination - that it is a "school" - then it must be treated as a school.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 02:53 PM (rZ+mb)

465 That would be so funny if the Statue of Liberty was a Weeping Angel and for one instant everyone in NYC blinked. Then the screaming would start.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:53 PM (V4nDv)

466 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (J+eG2)

In the photos at the link there's one in which a Macaroni Grill sign can be seen. That's all that's left that particular establishment...it burned down about a year ago.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 26, 2017 02:53 PM (uiwCw)

467 There's nothing to admire in the koran.

Oh, i don't know, the parts that say things like "care for the poor" and "repent because God's judgment is coming" are pretty compelling.

Apocalypto held my attention the whole time, and nobody spoke a single word I could understand all the way through. Gibson may be a personal wreck but he's really talented.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:53 PM (39g3+)

468 456 Mayans used to play a form of Jai Lai mixed with Lacrosse with human heads.

The savages were never ever noble.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (V4nDv)

That's NOT an easy game Anna. Those heads do not roll where you think they will.....er...or so its written.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2017 02:53 PM (7iUYS)

469 "Will they still get credit for it?"

I think a 48 hour waiver is pretty easy to get.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (J+eG2)

470 Mayans used to play a form of Jai Lai mixed with Lacrosse with human heads.

The savages were never ever noble.

At least they had the courtesy to remove the head from the body before play began. Otherwise one of the players might have been hurt.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (Hk/NM)

471 Trump tweet:
Very grateful for the 9-O decision from the U. S. Supreme Court. We must keep America SAFE!

Can't wait for Rachel Maddow and Chris Cuomo to Voxsplain how wrong this is.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (+7/1f)

472 406 You remember when the Marines Jefferson sent to Tripoli had an "Iftar" dinner for the surviving pirates after they finished kicking the pirates' asses?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM (YmDtf)

Reminds me of when Keith Ellison was sworn in on Thomas Jefferson's "Koran"--as though TJ was an admirer of Islam.
It was just one book out of 5,000 in his library....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:43 PM (7uYFy)

Didn't Jefferson get a Koran to understand the mindset of the pirates?

Posted by: Buzzion at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (cAnNx)

473 "Other than the "inconvenience" of their state constitution which says otherwise."

When State Constitutions still said that Slavery as allowed, but the Feds passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments banning the practice, what happened?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (OmOvC)

474 Roberts is working on taking Kennedy's spot as the justice you have no idea which way he is going to go. Today it's a tax, tomorrow we bemoan the illogic of Federal agencies.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (J70i0)

475 454 Fun fact: Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs' brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid.

And Cortez & Co. weren't exactly faggots.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:48 PM (YmDtf)

Did they ever figure out the Aztec's intent or motive?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (493sH)

Well, as Neil Young sang, "They offered life in sacrifice / so that others could go on...." (soaring guitar solo)

But the captured tribes being sacrificed probably thought differently.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (ujg0T)

476 If their state constitution had some problem with the school then it never should have been accredited as a school. But once the state made this determination - that it is a "school" - then it must be treated as a school.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 02:53 PM (rZ+mb)
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The state constitution didn't bar the existence of religious-institution-run schools, it barred funding them.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (OmhcY)

477 And now, in a new and improved public policy, funded as well.

Well, see, that's where the problem is. Its not the religious liberty, its the tax dollars being handed out to people for various activities outside the proper role of government.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (39g3+)

478 See Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Great flick, fantastic direction.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (+7/1f)

Yes, and surprisingly accurate historically. Prescott in his definitive history of the Spanish Conquest cites the horror of the conquistadors (and also the cannibalism the Aztecs practiced on leaders and warriors of other tribes, to gain their strength).

So it wasn't all grins and giggles before Cortez. In fact, the arrival of the Spaniards just catalyzed a general uprising by all of the surrounding tribes, all of whom hated the Aztecs, for understandable reasons.

It's amazing how few leftists grasp this. There were 300 conquistadors armed with muzzle-loading weapons, and a million Aztecs. If the other Indians hadn't helped the conquistadors, the first battle would have resulted in 999,700 Aztecs and 300 dead Spaniards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (YmDtf)

479 But the captured tribes being sacrificed probably thought differently.

***

Sure, but not for long.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (GEpFD)

480 Didn't Jefferson get a Koran to understand the mindset of the pirates?
Posted by: Buzzion at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (cAnNx)

Yes. He was big Phillies fan and baseball scouting was in it's infancy back then...

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (7uYFy)

481 Blanco Basura, the Afghanis play a form of polo that as long as a chunk of the goat or calf's body gets across the line, it's a goal

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:56 PM (V4nDv)

482 Other than the "inconvenience" of their state constitution which says otherwise.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (OmhcY)

Contrary to the other "inconvenience," which requires otherwise.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:56 PM (tbOMB)

483 The parents of children in parochial school pay the same property taxes as those with kids in public school, despite the fact that their children don't attend, and in fact pay tuition to another school, so I don't begrudge them benefits like summer school, school busses, etc.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 26, 2017 02:56 PM (7ZVPa)

484 "And Cortez Co. weren't exactly faggots."

Well, ocean voyages in those days were pretty long and boring, and his men weren't all that well known for the high moral codes anyways, so....

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (OmOvC)

485 "Fun fact: Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs' brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid. "

Figure the logistics to keep 20k alive and under control.

Actually killing 20k without automatic weapons.

And finally, the disposal of the remains of 20k human bodies who all died in one spot, in one day.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (J+eG2)

486 462 See Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Great flick, fantastic direction.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 02:50 PM (+7/1f)

I'm still deeply, deeply amused by the people who were just horrified, HORRIFIED, by the violence in a movie about the Mayans.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 26, 2017 02:52 PM (mf5HN)

I think that's because you don't hear much about any savagery of the mayans. After all why would you when you have the Aztecs to talk about.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (cAnNx)

487 Oh, i don't know, the parts that say things like "care for the poor" and
"repent because God's judgment is coming" are pretty compelling.
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So, the parts they stole from legitimate faiths.

Posted by: Methos at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (3Liv/)

488 Ya know if youre just learning you can trim the ears off...makes them easier to toss and roll.....I've heard.

Oh didn't bocce start that way?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (7iUYS)

489 "bus explosion in Paris"

Before the Israelis built their security wall -- you know, the one that specifically wouldn't work because walls as a general case don't and can't work, until it worked -- the preferred terror tactic inside Israel of the Palescummians was boarding public buses with body bombs, then detonating.

Quite the conundrum for the left! One of their identity-politics blocs, the Muslim ummah, attacking one of their policy fetishes, public transit.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (ujwCG)

490 Not sure I'm okay with this decision. I think churches will regret hopping into bed with the State.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 26, 2017 02:58 PM (+ttLq)

491 When State Constitutions still said that Slavery as allowed, but the Feds passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments banning the practice, what happened?
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (OmOvC)
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I don't know, did the states have to pay reparations to and thereby pension the slaves?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:58 PM (OmhcY)

492 473
"Other than the "inconvenience" of their state constitution which says otherwise."

When
State Constitutions still said that Slavery as allowed, but the Feds
passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments banning the practice, what
happened?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (OmOvC)

They still have slavery, because it was inconvenient to change their Constitutions.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:58 PM (tbOMB)

493 the Afghanis play a form of polo that as long as a chunk of the goat or calf's body gets across the line, it's a goal

Do they play on a minefield? I think they should. I'd feel bad for the horses, but it would be a net win for everybody.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 26, 2017 02:59 PM (Hk/NM)

494 Quite the conundrum for the left! One of their identity-politics blocs, the Muslim ummah, attacking one of their policy fetishes, public transit.

***

There you go with that "logic" stuff again.

Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at June 26, 2017 02:59 PM (GEpFD)

495 Obviously (and no sarcasm here) I don't "like" or "hate" SCOTUS or other court decisions because I like or hate the practical outcomes thereof.

I judge them by the actual criteria they should always conform to - are they reasonable, and based on the constitution and the law as written?

As Gorsuch himself wrote, I think, in one of his widely cited earlier rulings from his lower court perch, he applies the laws he doesn't like the same as all the others (or words to that effect).

Simplified, that IS the whole point. The complete absence of this integrity - that is, the arbitrary, political, conclusory lawlessness and usurpation of both legislative and executive functions we have been getting from the courts - is the problem.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2017 02:59 PM (v9gSJ)

496 Not sure I'm okay with this decision. I think churches will regret hopping into bed with the State.
Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 26, 2017 02:58 PM (+ttLq)

I agree and when you take coin from the gov't, sooner or later you have to dance to their tune...

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:59 PM (7uYFy)

497 Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM

That state amendment is as unconstitutional as if the state said no state or county funded fire trucks are allowed to respond to any fire occurring at any religious facility .

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:00 PM (7QnCd)

498 Didn't Jefferson get a Koran to understand the mindset of the pirates?

Posted by: Buzzion at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (cAnNx)

Yes, then after he figured it out he went to war with them instead of paying ransom.

Posted by: Not Wilford Brimley at all at June 26, 2017 03:00 PM (PduNE)

499 Posted by: Kansas Move-on.org Democrats Who Register as Republicans and Campaign and Win as "Conservatives" at June 26, 2017 02:07 PM (j+dfT)

I see you've met my state representative, a lovely JoCo country-club Republican who never met a tax hike she didn't like ("for the children!") or a firearm restriction that wasn't "just common sense" ("for the children!") and who got top ratings from the "MainStream Coalition" - a leftist activist group that pretends to be "moderate Republicans". And endorsed Hillary, the democrat running for Governor, and the "independent" (hahahaha) guy who ran against Pat Roberts for the US Senate. But they're just "against extremism!!"

Kansas conservatives should treat anyone they endorse as though it was Pelosi and Soros doing the endorsing (because, really, it is.)

Posted by: moronhorde minion at June 26, 2017 03:00 PM (88jeI)

500 Black Angus are best,
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 26, 2017 02:29 PM

"Let's Watch as they are kilt."

Posted by: Soft voiceover at June 26, 2017 03:00 PM (DMUuz)

501 Figure the logistics to keep 20k alive and under control.

Actually killing 20k without automatic weapons.

And finally, the disposal of the remains of 20k human bodies who all died in one spot, in one day.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (J+eG2)

In honesty, I may have my facts wrong, either in the number, or in the time period over which they were killed. It was just from memory.

But I do remember being staggered by the number, and per Prescott, the blood literally flowed down the pyramid like a waterfall.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 03:00 PM (YmDtf)

502 When State Constitutions still said that Slavery as allowed, but the Feds passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments banning the practice, what happened?
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (OmOvC)
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I don't know, did the states have to pay reparations to and thereby pension the slaves?
Posted by: RioBravo

Since most of them were occupied by Union armies and had carpetbagger Reconstruction legislatures ...

Posted by: Jean at June 26, 2017 03:00 PM (9TU00)

503 When State Constitutions still said that Slavery as allowed, but the Feds passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments banning the practice, what happened?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 02:54 PM (OmOvC)

BTW, slavery was never banned in the US Constitution. Slavery, as punishment for criminal offenses, is still allowed, which is why so many of the cases that prisoners have brought up - and won - were total bullshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 03:01 PM (rZ+mb)

504 I can't find anything on this Pars bus bombing...

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 03:01 PM (7uYFy)

505 They still have slavery, because it was inconvenient to change their Constitutions.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 26, 2017 02:58 PM (tbOMB)

IIRC, Tubby Riefenstahl got his career started with a 1980s TV show called "TV Nation", where one episode dealt with a Southern State that still had slave laws on the books, Mississippi I think, even though they obviously had two decades since abolished Jim Crow, let alone slavery.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 03:01 PM (ujg0T)

506 Oh, Creepy New World that has such devices in it!

The "Echo Show".

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mathonan/meet-amazons-new-echo-show-alexa-is-watching/

I suppose people with very aged parents far away might like this set up.

Can't think of many others though.

To make this work as a consumer item, I think at a minimum it's going to have to come with a lens cap and microphone blocker(physical).

Posted by: naturalfake at June 26, 2017 03:02 PM (9q7Dl)

507 So, the parts they stole from legitimate faiths.

Pretty much, most of the Koran is lifted from the Bible as Mo's limited memory allowed him, then filtered through Arabic culture, and shaped to allow him to be a conqueror. Just the Koran isn't nearly as awful as the Hadith and later stuff added on. Its a crappy religion but it got a lot crappier over time, where Judaism for example got a lot easier and less restrictive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 03:02 PM (39g3+)

508 485 "Fun fact: Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs' brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid. "

Figure the logistics to keep 20k alive and under control.

Actually killing 20k without automatic weapons.

And finally, the disposal of the remains of 20k human bodies who all died in one spot, in one day.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 02:57 PM (J+eG2)

Amateurs

Posted by: The Mongols at June 26, 2017 03:03 PM (cAnNx)

509 I agree and when you take coin from the gov't, sooner or later you have to dance to their tune...
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 02:59 PM

Back in the day, the phrase was "taking the King's shilling".

Supposedly one of the reasons for glass-bottomed tankards, so you couldn't be impressed after discovering a shilling at the bottom of your mug that had been 'roofied' in.

Now, get off my lawn

Posted by: Old Moron at June 26, 2017 03:03 PM (DMUuz)

510 Amateurs

Posted by: The Mongols at June 26, 2017 03:03 PM (cAnNx)

Pikers.

Posted by: Mad Dog Mattis at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (tbOMB)

511 "In honesty, I may have my facts wrong, either in the number, or in the time period over which they were killed. It was just from memory. "

Oh, I'm not saying that you are wrong.

Savagery on a massive scale isn't just confined to modern man.

It's just that without technology to help, one really has to have a commitment, passion, and the endurance to keep killing...all....day...long.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (J+eG2)

512 I can't find anything on this Pars bus bombing...
Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2017 03:01 PM (7uYFy)

http://therightscoop.com/ breaking-report-bus-explosion-in-paris/

Posted by: Country Singer at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (uiwCw)

513 Looking at the photos of the bus in France--if anyone was on board, they died. It's a smoking shell. Still no official word.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (B+qrE)

514 Take out the space in the link at 512.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (uiwCw)

515 450 I had the same thought - if you like this ruling now, just wait for lawfare round 2 wherein you stop liking it.

Posted by: mx4 at June 26, 2017 02:46 PM (E+PBa)
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Use that argument in regards to gun rights
Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (lwiT4)

Easy.

I choose to live in a pro-gun State, Indiana. Keeping the Fed out of our State Constitution, which enshrines gun ownership in stronger and simpler terms than the Constitution, means I never have to worry about that being infringed by the Supreme Court. Tim in Illinois, who obviously lives in Illinois, has no such assurances from the State of Illinois. And I don't give a damn. If it bothers him enough ... move. That's why we got fifty states.

But hey ... I get it. A Religious School got free shit !!! Winner Winner Chicken Dinner !!!

That it happened by a State Constitution getting over-turned ? Who gives a shit ? What could go wrong ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (tRLIC)

516 415 I guess they weren't districts in the traditional school sense, Curmudgeon. But then again for health and safety forces the City of Cleveland area is broken up into districts, so I imagine the schools are as well.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at June 26, 2017 02:44 PM (FQKBL)

As I understand it, Elem/Middle/High schools within a school district have different territory boundaries for the District therein, but the District as a whole is still what it is.

IIRC, traditionally many city school district boundaries followed city boundaries, until San Jose undertook rapid expansion and wound up with 34 different school districts in various parts of its expanded city, which became a court case, at least here in California it did.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 26, 2017 03:05 PM (ujg0T)

517 Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:55 PM (OmhcY)

It's not merely the existence but the accreditation and acknowledgement that it is a school without distinction.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:05 PM (7QnCd)

518 Nood

Posted by: Tami at June 26, 2017 03:05 PM (Enq6K)

519 " I can't find anything on this Pars bus bombing..."
Several twitter mentions, and an australian news station breaking with it.

No real details yet

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 03:05 PM (J+eG2)

520 RioBravo - you're arguing the battle that was lost in 1865. Seriously.

Before then, there was a serious legal case to be made that State Constitutions should be regarded as being on the same legal level as the US Constitution, maybe even higher.

After 1865, these State constitutions have the same amount of authority as your local Homeowner's Association guidelines; which is to say that the only have the amount of legal authority that some higher level has decided to temporarily grant to them. State Constitutions only have legal validity to the point that they agree with and enforce the Federal Constitution. No more.

Bottom Line - when the SCOTUS rules that a part of any State Constitution is just pointless, unenforceable verbiage, that part becomes pointless, unenforceable verbiage.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 03:05 PM (OmOvC)

521 456 Mayans used to play a form of Jai Lai mixed with Lacrosse with human heads.

The savages were never ever noble.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:51 PM (V4nDv)

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Part of what really bugged the Europeans was the fact that by every other metric, the Aztecs were relatively "Civilized": City building, written language, complex states, etc. Our revultion towards such practices predate Christianity. It didn't matter who encountered the Aztecs: Spanish, Portugese, French, or English; they were gonna get fucked up. Human sacrifice and cannabolism is, to western civilization, a sign a society/nation "Needs Killin". I.e., the fact that the Aztecs weren't savages to the same extent as other tribes likely made the practice even more abohorrent. The only difference between Mayan Human Sacrifice and the Aztec variety was time period. The Aztecs were at their peak when Cortez came and the Mayans were no longer empire builders and had quit doing it. Oh, and the Aztec variant was arguably more fucked up, if such a thing is possible.

Posted by: Jackal at June 26, 2017 03:05 PM (k26Ds)

522 BTW, slavery was never banned in the US Constitution. Slavery, as punishment for criminal offenses, is still allowed

Right, the 13th amendment specifically gives an exemption for convicted felons. Chain gangs, breaking rocks, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 26, 2017 03:06 PM (39g3+)

523 It's just that without technology to help, one really has to have a commitment, passion, and the endurance to keep killing...all....day...long.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (J+eG2)

All for the sun god. Kinda like the Muslims for their moon god.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 26, 2017 03:06 PM (YmDtf)

524 I should probably educate myself on this but I have youz guyz. Is sharia at all derived from the Koran or is it a modern political invention to establish independent courts and not assimilate.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2017 03:07 PM (7iUYS)

525 That state amendment is as unconstitutional as if the state said no state or county funded fire trucks are allowed to respond to any fire occurring at any religious facility .
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:00 PM (7QnCd)
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Except for the fact they were not denying public services such as police and fire protection to the schools. They were denying public funding of their facilities because they are sectarian in nature.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 03:08 PM (OmhcY)

526 Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (tRLIC)

So under you theory the States should have the power to ignore the Constitution. It's up to the citizens to just move.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:08 PM (7QnCd)

527 >>>"Fun fact: Cortez and the conquistadors were horrified by the Aztecs'
brutality in eviscerating up to 20,000 (IIRC) captives in a day on their
sun altar, until the blood poured down the pyramid. "<<<

Fun Fact: Now their descendents are running guns and drugs and trafficking in humans on our southern border.

Posted by: Fritz at June 26, 2017 03:08 PM (2Mnv1)

528
Yep. Every school aged child is entitled to speech therapy or other special services, if shown to have a need in that area. I believe that law was passed in 1974 or so. I used to see a lot of parochial students.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 02:45 PM (lwiT4)
Yet, I can't get the local public school to call me back. I need to fix a lateral lisp in my 13 year old.

Posted by: dagny at June 26, 2017 03:08 PM (wQp4D)

529 Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 03:08 PM (OmhcY)

Aren't public services publicly funded?

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:09 PM (7QnCd)

530 Aren't public services publicly funded?
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:09 PM (7QnCd)
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And now so are church schools apparently.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 03:13 PM (OmhcY)

531 Yet, I can't get the local public school to call me back. I need to fix a lateral lisp in my 13 year old.

Posted by: dagny at June 26, 2017 03:08 PM (wQp4D)
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Go up the chain to the school superintendent, and if need be, go to the District Superintendent. You could also ask for a meeting with the Speech and Language Pathologist in the school where your child would attend if they were in public school. Ask for an evaluation. They must give you one. Upon the outcome of the evaluation, your child should receive a therapy plan in 4-6 weeks. (That's about how long it takes in Wisconsin)

I wish I were near you. A lateral lisp is a pretty easy fix and shouldn't take a whole lot of therapy hours.

Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 26, 2017 03:14 PM (lwiT4)

532 "After 1865, these State constitutions have the same amount of authority as your local Homeowner's Association guidelines; which is to say that the only have the amount of legal authority that some higher level has decided to temporarily grant to them."

This is wrong. When a state constitution purports to limit a federal constitutional civil liberty, it loses. But it can give civil liberties in excess of the federal.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 03:15 PM (+7/1f)

533 So only the Obamites voted FOR this.

More proof they know NOTHING about the US Constitution or it's history.

But they are political thugs in black robes.

Call it for what it is.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2017 03:16 PM (UsCnO)

534 526 Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (tRLIC)

So under you theory the States should have the power to ignore the Constitution. It's up to the citizens to just move.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:08 PM (7QnCd)

So ... I've got the Legal Information Institute site open right now. Part of law.cornell.edu. A bastion of conservative legal opinion for sure.

Per here ... and most other shit I've ever read ... the 14th Ammendment has not a damn thing to do with this current notion of Incorporation - the primacy of the US Constitution over the States in all matters. Slaughter-House Cases in 1872 settled that shit - State Law was outside the purview of the Federal.

No ... this current tack that everyone loves because Our Favorite Folks got free shit started after ... as a work-around to the above. Really got going in the twenties.

But hey ... I get it. Hell - I always SAY IT. Republicans differ from Democrats only on the Ends. Not so much on the Means.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:20 PM (tRLIC)

535 25 Irony to Sotomayor's dissent is that she went to Catholic schools in The Bronx, which was her springboard to going to Princeton. Gratitude, no?
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2017 01:40 PM (+7/1f)

Sotomomayor benefited from Lemon and other court decisions which broke through the NYS Blaine Amendment to provide transportation (busses, subway passes), books and other religiously neutral goods and services to the students at Catholic (and other religious) schools on the same basis as students at public (and non-religious) private schools. Note that these benefits accrued to the students, not to the school itself.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 26, 2017 03:24 PM (brIR5)

536 Blanco Basura, the Afghanis play a form of polo that as long as a chunk of the goat or calf's body gets across the line, it's a goal

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2017 02:56 PM (V4nDv)

Spoken by the jugger Gonzo in that awesome Rutger Hauer vehicle, 'The Blood of Heroes':

"Lord Vile, I've broken Juggers in half, smashed their bones, left the ground behind me wet with brains. There's nothing I wouldn't do to win. But I never hurt anyone for any reason other than sticking a dog's skull on a stake."

Love that movie. I insert quotes from it everywhere I can. Because.

Posted by: troyriser at June 26, 2017 03:24 PM (Fw5cQ)

537 What the hell are "Ramadan-themed socks"?
Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2017 02:33 PM (qJhUV)

A pair of socks loaded with C4 and wired to explode.

Posted by: Pax78 at June 26, 2017 03:25 PM (rzzWz)

538 Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:20 PM (tRLIC)

How do you interpret the 10th amendment ?

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:26 PM (7QnCd)

539 Only Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.

Bader Ginsburg and Sotomayor. Check.

Posted by: Rick67 at June 26, 2017 03:27 PM (SDC/U)

540 That it happened by a State Constitution getting over-turned ? Who gives a shit ? What could go wrong ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:04 PM (tRLIC)

The Blaine Amendments were the basest form of Anti-Catholic discrimination. The Mass Constitution specifically excludes the Blaine text from the initiative process that every other part of the Constitution is subject to. The non-initiative process for amending the Blaine text couldn't be satisfied if the College of Cardinals sat as the Massachusetts Legislature.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 26, 2017 03:32 PM (brIR5)

541 And now so are church schools apparently.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 03:13 PM (OmhcY)

What is the part of the state COnstitution you were referring to?

And, is this something that was open to other private schools and they just wanted to exclude the church private schools? Or did the state say that the funding competition was only open to public schools and the church school demanded to participate?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 03:33 PM (rZ+mb)

542 Speech/language therapists are typically horribly loaded down with caseloads. Parents have the right to request having their child evaluated for whatever concerns -- whether the team (which includes the parent) decides to evaluate is another matter. But if they're blowing you off, call and leave a message for the building principal that you're being blown off -- I guarantee that will get the sp. ed. supervisor's attention pronto. The LAST thing admin wants is someone contacting the district via a parent advocate/lawyer because the first thing out of the superintendent's mouth to the principal will be, "Why did YOU let it get this far?" even if the sp. ed. department dropped the ball.

Go to the principal.

Posted by: doomed at June 26, 2017 03:36 PM (UW4Uc)

543 538 Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:20 PM (tRLIC)

How do you interpret the 10th amendment ?
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 26, 2017 03:26 PM (7QnCd)

As interpreted prior to the invention of the Incorporation Doctrine ... a strict limit on Federal Power.

This notion of Incorporation ... the ability of the Federal to overturn the States in the name of protecting the Citizen's Rights ... is the ultimate Camel's Nose in the Tent.

It will turn out poorly. Already has.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 26, 2017 03:45 PM (tRLIC)

544 And, is this something that was open to other private schools and they just wanted to exclude the church private schools? Or did the state say that the funding competition was only open to public schools and the church school demanded to participate?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 03:33 PM (rZ+mb)
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It was open to non-church private and public schools.

I quoted the section of the MO consitution at:
"388 - Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM"

We seem to have changed in 15 years. There was an issue with W. Bush's Faith Based Initiative to fund social services provided by religious organizations. Courts rules that OK at the time so long as there was no religious content provided with the services. Now, the Court is requiring states to include church -based organizations in grant programs if not for specific religious purposes.

Perhaps my interpretation is in error, but the Court seems to be requiring equal funding of religious-affiliated entities to a large extent. Seems like a significant change to me.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 03:51 PM (OmhcY)

545 Supreme Court to MO:

"You may provide the same access to public grants for sectual exercise as for all other public and private exercise."

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 04:00 PM (OmhcY)

546 No. He court is saying that church schools cannot be excluded from consideration for funding by grants simply because the are a church school. If the grant is open to schools. It is open to any school. This doesn't immediately equal "state funding" of a church for two obvious reasons. 1) the school still has to apply and *win* the grant and 2) the money isn't necessarily going to the church, but to the school. Of course we have those here who rail on about how horrible public schools are and that they've just indoctrination centers. But DO something that puts private schools on a little more of n even keel and the sky is falling

Posted by: Gman at June 26, 2017 04:48 PM (5yj16)

547 RioBravo, you misunderstood the case and the decision, I believe. Missouri made a decision to allow free asphalt to all schools, public and private. They stated this publicly, to all. Many schools, public and private, applied. Trinity Lutheran scored 5th out of a large number of applicants, meaning that the met every published guideline for this program.

THEN Missouri stepped in and said "oh wait you're affiliated with a religion, we have to discriminate against you in a way that we will not do against any other non-religious public or private schools, therefore you are out, ONLY because of your religious affiliation".

The Constitutional Issue here is Equal Protection under the Law. The US Constitution has guarantees, most of which are in the Bill of Rights, which prohibit the Government from using different laws against different groups of people, ESPECIALLY when this is done for reasons of Race and Religion.

NO State may use it's constitution to take away Equal Protection under the Law without Due Process. Those judged to be Criminals, for example, can have their freedom taken away, but only AFTER an painstaking amount of Due Process.

The Court in this decision today did NOT "require" that religious schools receive any funding - that is a foolish misreading of this case. The Court ruled that Religious schools cannot be discriminated against SOLELY because of their faith, in programs where all other private schools are welcome to participate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2017 04:56 PM (OmOvC)

548 It was open to non-church private and public schools.

I quoted the section of the MO consitution at:
"388 - Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 02:40 PM"

Posted by: RioBravo at June 26, 2017 03:51 PM (OmhcY)

Okay. I couldn't find that in my initial search of the MO constitution, but if it's there as you wrote then I have no problem with the state withholding funds from the school. My mistake.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2017 06:25 PM (rZ+mb)

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