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Buck:
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Bits and Bobs Open Thread
David Frum had a bit of a snit today.
Charles Cooke demolished his spasmodic, full-auto-ignorance tweets in two posts, the second one specifically mentioning David Frum, who, by the way, looks like he spent twenty years in Barad-Dur being raped by Gollum and learned to love it. His every spastically uninformed argument rubbished, he then turned to -- get this! -- emotively shrieking like the sad Gollum bitch he is. Jazz Shaw digests a good Peter Bienart piece about how Democrats -- who once routinely spoke in favor of border enforcement and even noticed (gasp!) that of course an unlimited stream of new foreign workers must depress native-born wages, have since decided that to repeat any of the things they uncontroversially said just 8-10 years ago is a vile heresy. They did the same thing on gay marriage and Choose Your Own Adventure bathrooms, too, of course. The FBI has bizarrely claimed that James Hodgkinson had no "particular target in mind," and that his assassination attempt was -- of course -- definitely not terrorism. I forgot to mention this classic excuse earlier -- a Democrat operative said Ossoff lost because it was impossible to reach his voters, because they live in their parents' houses. Sounds about right!A precinct captain for Democratic candidate Jon Ossoff's congressional campaign complained recently that many of his constituents are hard to reach because they still live at home with their parents. "Those were the angriest people," Jessica Zeigler told Slate, referring to the Republican parents of the young Democrats. "When you are targeting their child, or heaven forbid their child might not think the same way as them, it becomes ugly."Living with your parents at age 27 does tend to make one angry. The parents aren't too thrilled, either. Speaking of Monster Babies, I linked this earlier, but it's worth highlighting: The President of Evergreen State Day Care Center says he's issued a "stern warning" to some of the thugs at his Monster Baby Nursery. And that's all I got. Night!
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: jayhawkone at June 21, 2017 07:44 PM (ZD+J8)
Grump around?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 07:44 PM (Q93p4)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 21, 2017 07:45 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 07:45 PM (/o9Qk)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 07:46 PM (Q93p4)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:47 PM (sBOL1)
still, folks need to check out local crime story of a poor muslim man, who just wants to be like us and integrate seamlessly into the american dream becomes victimized, as per the recent string of anti-muz attacks, we've all come to realize illustrates the evil soul of America...
and anyway, he gets all shooty with Dundalk police.
https://youtu.be/L-LSPdFwZ34
Posted by: Jeb Bush's historic concession speech at June 21, 2017 07:47 PM (9xFrC)
Posted by: jayhawkone at June 21, 2017 07:47 PM (ZD+J8)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 07:47 PM (tnRml)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2017 07:48 PM (0Ng0w)
Posted by: Sheriff Kurt Eichenwald at June 21, 2017 07:49 PM (5YBu8)
It really is a feat - a scary feat!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 07:49 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: torabora at June 21, 2017 07:49 PM (6dFYM)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2017 07:49 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at June 21, 2017 07:49 PM (oBuXO)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2017 07:48 PM (0Ng0w)
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Bold move for a man whose culinary reputation lies in our hands. Bwahahahaha.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:50 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:50 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2017 07:50 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 21, 2017 07:51 PM (C+/Hc)
Do you intend to post the exact same comment on every thread tonight?
First time I saw it, I was sure of what I was seeing.
Then I posted on the last thread that there is no evidence of islamic influence on this red headed Irish white guy who was the shooter.
Let it rest.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2017 07:51 PM (J+eG2)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 07:51 PM (Nwg0u)
Yeah, makes perfect sense. Not.
So very tired of being lied to about things that are so damn obvious.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 07:51 PM (NOIQH)
You know what I want.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:50 PM (sBOL1)
So, I'm reading your comment while listening to the opening of Diana Ross' "Love Hangover."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2017 07:51 PM (mbhDw)
I guess that about does it. Defund the FBI and turn its offices into condos. It couldn't find the nose on its face.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 21, 2017 07:52 PM (H8S+R)
**
My last push. I thought it was something but I am rebuked. I though the had the head piece and the dress like top.
Posted by: Jeb Bush's historic concession speech at June 21, 2017 07:52 PM (9xFrC)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 21, 2017 07:52 PM (H8S+R)
Efrem Zimbalist Jr. hardest hit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 21, 2017 07:53 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: mIKE at June 21, 2017 07:53 PM (c056A)
Posted by: Bat Wielding Lesbians of Evergreen State College at June 21, 2017 07:53 PM (qJhUV)
One can only hope they hold their collective breath just a bit too long.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2017 07:53 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2017 07:51 PM (mbhDw)
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Er, maybe you don't know what I want.
Momma Sefton's recipes for our cookbook.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:53 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: fluffy at June 21, 2017 07:53 PM (jw2Xw)
Yeah, makes perfect sense. Not."
Spontaneous is NOT two loaded firearms, with spare mags for both. A list of targets, and an inquiry into the politics of the ball players.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2017 07:53 PM (J+eG2)
He's laughing his ossoff.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 07:54 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Raymond Luxuryyacht (pronounced Throat Warbler Mangrove) at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (5YBu8)
The FBI are little more than Federal pigs anymore.
Posted by: Country Boy at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (ywuXx)
Yeah, makes perfect sense. Not.
It's true, go look for yourself. The FBI just opened his apartment to the public.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (0Ng0w)
Posted by: redenzo at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (5wSNN)
Oh, please do. We really, really need moar racial healing, lying, gun-running, and general skullduggery.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (PY9jH)
I agree that the video seemed to show what one would expect.
That's why I spent some time gathering additional info.
There is no evidence that he is a follower of Islam.
Sorry.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (J+eG2)
Posted by: wooga at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (AS22e)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 07:56 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2017 07:55 PM (0Ng0w)
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There is plenty of room for WeaselWoman's noodle appetizer thingy. You send her right to that link.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:56 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 07:56 PM (Nwg0u)
He hated theater-goers.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 21, 2017 07:56 PM (Mouru)
Okay.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:47 PM (sBOL1)
Apparently Republican Congressmen isn't a specific enough target.
Its not like this asshole went to a mall and started shooting it up.
Posted by: buzzion at June 21, 2017 07:56 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 07:56 PM (Nwg0u)
Neither did Lee Harvey Oswald.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 07:57 PM (PY9jH)
There is plenty of room for WeaselWoman's noodle appetizer thingy. You send her right to that link.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:56 PM (sBOL1)
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Yes ma'am!
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2017 07:57 PM (0Ng0w)
FEC Dem eyes widening Russia probe to Facebook, Drudge, foreign companies
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y9o9ewjk
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 21, 2017 07:57 PM (oVJmc)
Unforts, this includes a cohort of our Betters on the Right.
Apparently it's just too much for them to insist on not allowing criminals and those intent on harming citizens be turned away.
I will never understand their motivation, because to contemplate the subject is to rummage through pathology.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2017 07:57 PM (udajc)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 21, 2017 07:57 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Marcus Antonius at June 21, 2017 07:58 PM (5YBu8)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 07:58 PM (NOIQH)
You know what I want.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 07:50 PM (sBOL1)
Now, THIs is the post where Nevergiveup should put "Get a room!: J/k. I know it was meant innocently
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2017 07:58 PM (qES5k)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 07:58 PM (PY9jH)
What mask the underage hooker I pay to beat me does or doesn't wear is none of your concern sir!
Posted by: David Frum at June 21, 2017 07:58 PM (SkuXa)
I like hyper-productive Ace.
Keep taking your Pervitin!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2017 07:58 PM (QGoUX)
Cut, Jib, Newsletter.
Posted by: The Elk at June 21, 2017 07:59 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2017 07:59 PM (udajc)
Posted by: Bob at June 21, 2017 08:00 PM (Mouru)
Targeting their children. How Reid-esque.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 08:00 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 08:00 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:00 PM (Q93p4)
***
and we've granted immunity to all his associates so we can get a better picture ...
Posted by: Jeb Bush's historic concession speech at June 21, 2017 08:00 PM (9xFrC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2017 07:58 PM (qES5k)
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I know you know that, Fenelon, but JJ apparently thinks along the NGU line. Color me surprised.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:00 PM (sBOL1)
Instead: fake news msbnc is covering "breaking fake news" that wapo has obtained the "secret" gop health care plan.
The "secret" plan, you guys, wapo has obtained it!!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:01 PM (Q93p4)
Posted by: jayhawkone at June 21, 2017 08:01 PM (ZD+J8)
I have a recipe to contribute, if I can find the cookbook that it's in. It's one that my late husband came up with. But...we are packing to put the house up for sale and I've got to figure out where the cookbook is. If I can find it, I'll post it this weekend.
Posted by: notsothoreau at June 21, 2017 08:01 PM (JKNZq)
61 David Frum resembles a butt cheek.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 08:00 PM (PY9jH)
Might I ask for some clarification? Because it all depends on the company you keep.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2017 08:01 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: fluffy at June 21, 2017 08:01 PM (jw2Xw)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:02 PM (Tk0gg)
The FBI needs to learn how to read a fucking dictionary. What a damn joke.
Posted by: Motorhead at June 21, 2017 08:02 PM (uIL8U)
Posted by: The Germans what bombed Pearl Harbor at June 21, 2017 08:02 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: FBI at June 21, 2017 08:03 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 08:03 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:03 PM (Q93p4)
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If it ain't baroque, don't fix it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:03 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Teh FBEYE at June 21, 2017 08:03 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 08:03 PM (PUmDY)
Many thanks to all who have contributed so far, and those who will contribute in the future.
Ace, if you're reading, I'm still waiting.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:04 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:04 PM (Q93p4)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2017 08:04 PM (QGoUX)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:04 PM (Q93p4)
Posted by: The Gospel according to St. Dipshit, 3:24 at June 21, 2017 08:04 PM (5YBu8)
target in mind," and that his assassination attempt was -- of course -- definitely not terrorism. "
Clearly the FBI remains politicized despite Comey's departure. Drain the swamp, Mr. Trump.
Posted by: Locke Common at June 21, 2017 08:04 PM (zSXXo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (sBOL1)
***
And yet again this is where Trump, Sessions, or hell anyone in the government should fire the entire leadership of the FBI.
WHY
DO
WE
PAY
THESE
PEOPLE?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (aZq03)
Would you be kind enough to tell us where we can find one? We simply have no leads.
Posted by: FBI at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (H8S+R)
Sure, Jane. Can't promise to use all of them, but definitely send them in if they are your faves!
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (sBOL1)
Feel free to leave out any you don't want/need.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 08:06 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 08:06 PM (/o9Qk)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter
Did he have a white hood like the other Democrat terrorists?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2017 08:06 PM (5YBu8)
Posted by: TK Baha at June 21, 2017 08:06 PM (J9FkY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 21, 2017 08:06 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:07 PM (sdi6R)
***
And yet again this is where Trump, Sessions, or hell anyone in the government should fire the entire leadership of the FBI.
WHY
DO
WE
PAY
THESE
PEOPLE?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (aZq03)
US tax revenue ain't gonna spend itself!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2017 08:07 PM (pUDQf)
Have fun all. Bluebell, I'll send a few more recipes tomorrow.
Thanks for all your hard work.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 08:07 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 08:06 PM (/o9Qk)
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That's right, DangerGirl. And you even spelled your nic correctly when you submitted it! You'd be surprised at who didn't.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:07 PM (sBOL1)
He hated Cadillac convertibles.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 21, 2017 07:57 PM (Mouru)
But he REALLY hated Lincoln convertibles with suicide doors....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:08 PM (7uYFy)
He's probably the reason I own so many .38 snubbies. That guy could hit a gnat's gnose from 50 feet with one of those.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2017 08:08 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: The FBI at June 21, 2017 08:08 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:08 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
I think we need a $125,000,000 study to determine if it will or not.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2017 08:08 PM (5YBu8)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at June 21, 2017 08:08 PM (i81II)
Posted by: FBI at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (H8S+R)
Hire a private dick.
Wait, no, let me rephrase that. Hire a private detective. Finding shit is their job. What yours is, I'm not clear.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:08 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (0Ng0w)
Would you be kind enough to tell us where we can find one? We simply have no leads.
Posted by: FBI at June 21, 2017 08:05 PM (H8S+R)
Hey.... we used to have one, but James Comey gave it to a Legal Professor to give to a reporter...
Posted by: Old FBI Agent... at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Teh FBEYE at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (SkuXa)
Thinking about pounding out thin chicken breast and doing my fajita smoke on them and using them as dippers for guacamole, pico and queso. Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (Tk0gg)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Pelosi's Wolverine Handler at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (MWUxi)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 21, 2017 08:10 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Weasel at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (0Ng0w)
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Why no, now that you mention it, I don't.
This needs to be remedied.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:10 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (Tk0gg)
Yeah. Go f*ck yourself.
Posted by: The Chicken at June 21, 2017 08:10 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 08:10 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2017 08:10 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: David Frum at June 21, 2017 08:10 PM (/Nite)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:07 PM (sBOL1)
Be awed by the power of copy/paste!!!!!
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (/o9Qk)
Fire people! Make examples.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
I think we need a $125,000,000 study to determine if it will or not.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable
I volunteer as tribute!
Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (66CWr)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (7uYFy)
After last night, it's just too soon...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (Tk0gg)
Neighbor: He was a quiet guy, kept mostly to himself.
FBI: Do you think he did it?
Neighbor: Oh sure. Killing Scalise was all he ever talked about.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (LTHVh)
That is independently funny and ironic at the same time.
And that's not always easy to accomplish.
I tip my hat.
# :^)>
Posted by: Meremortal at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (3myMJ)
Instead: fake news msbnc is covering "breaking fake news" that wapo has obtained the "secret" gop health care plan.
The "secret" plan, you guys, wapo has obtained it!!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:01 PM (Q93p4)
Is Kill All Black People number one or number two in the secret plan?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (4ErVI)
Did you stop for Philly Cheese steak sandwiches first?
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (7uYFy)
Finally we have a President worth a pinch of dry shit.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (/o9Qk)
He's not a real bright fella.
Posted by: John Marston at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (SkuXa)
If there is any silver cloud to the weaponization of the American government against its former people, it's improved Ace's snark by making it blacker than midnight.
Well done.
Posted by: trev006 at June 21, 2017 08:12 PM (5Ag3u)
Posted by: Teh FBEYE at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (SkuXa)
Actually..... we think his problems all started with having close to the same name as the Leader of the Fantastic Four..
He was made fun of as a kid, for being the backwards Reid Richards... clearly the teleport device sent him to an alternate backwards universe...
Posted by: Old FBI Agent... at June 21, 2017 08:13 PM (NgKpN)
target in mind," and that his assassination attempt was -- of course --
definitely not terrorism.
***
How could he have been more clear who the targets were beyond the list in his pocket? A tweet, instagram...
Posted by: X-ray at June 21, 2017 08:13 PM (6hUAo)
----
Yeah. You just referred to your target voter as a "child."
Posted by: RKae at June 21, 2017 08:13 PM (Ct7LH)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis
Shhhh...
It's a secret.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at June 21, 2017 08:13 PM (5YBu8)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 21, 2017 08:14 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 21, 2017 08:14 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:07 PM (sBOL1)
Now I'm worried!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 08:14 PM (gwPgz)
Thinking about pounding out thin chicken breast and doing my fajita smoke on them and using them as dippers for guacamole, pico and queso. Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (Tk0gg)
How do you use horses as dippers?
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:14 PM (sdi6R)
in the FBI and eventually these liberal apologists will be weeded out
under the Trump administration. Trump reads this shit too. He can't
think this is okay.
Fire people! Make examples.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2017 08:11 PM (pUDQf)
Why has not one come forward to protest this BS?
Posted by: MAC SOG at June 21, 2017 08:14 PM (QPdNE)
Do bad stuff again...and it goes on your permanent record! YOUR PERMANENT RECORD!
Don't test me!
Posted by: George Bridges: President, Evergreen State College at June 21, 2017 08:15 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:15 PM (Tk0gg)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:15 PM (7uYFy)
I mentioned this in the last thread. One of the cobs, who posts using three initials, misspelled that three-initial nic when he submitted his recipe.
Yeah.
I know.
I won't mention any names, though.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:15 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2017 08:16 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2017 08:16 PM (QGoUX)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (rJUlF)
Great fucking question. Maybe fear of what has been a shithole called D.C. being full of liberal assholes who retaliate on deplorables.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (pUDQf)
Hodgkinson was a terrorist.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (qES5k)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:14 PM (sdi6R)
Sheesh, he isn't talking about using the horses as dippers.
It's the people as dippers. I, for one, look forward to being slathered in guacamole.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (/o9Qk)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:14 PM (sdi6R)
And I read dippers as diapers which I guess works
Posted by: MAC SOG at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (Ot7+c)
Do bad stuff again...and it goes on your permanent record! YOUR PERMANENT RECORD!
Don't test me!
Posted by: George Bridges: President, Evergreen State College at June 21, 2017 08:15 PM (qJhUV)
Might I suggest..... double Secret probation?
Posted by: Dean Wormer at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Teh FBEYE at June 21, 2017 08:09 PM (SkuXa)
Actually..... we think his problems all started with having close to the same name as the Leader of the Fantastic Four..
-
And he was no Mr. Fantastic, let me tell you.
- Sue Storm
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Gollum at June 21, 2017 08:17 PM (XoldI)
I don't think of that attack as terrorism. I think of it as an attempted mass political assassination, and those are two different things.
Fee free to straighten me out. I took a strenuous hike today and may be addled from dehydration.
Posted by: Meremortal at June 21, 2017 08:18 PM (3myMJ)
You know why I LOVE Donald Trump, who is my president?
Because he will never tell me and his supporters that we need to "tone down our rhetoric" or tell me that "both sides need to tone it down."
Instead, he's up there right now telling me (and You) we're great, he loves us, and the other side are Shits.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:18 PM (Q93p4)
cobs, who posts using three initials, misspelled that three-initial nic
when he submitted his recipe.
Yeah.
I know.
I won't mention any names, though.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo!
Well, at least he wasn't locked in the bathroom licking himself.
Posted by: Aviator at June 21, 2017 08:18 PM (/Nite)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:18 PM (sBOL1)
They also claimed today that the Aloha Snackbar attacker in Michigan was a lone wolf. Odd how there are thousands of lone wolves across the world all doing the same thing
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 08:19 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: X-ray at June 21, 2017 08:13 PM (6hUAo)
The evaluation of the true intent of a social media posting requires in-depth analysis to determined the nuanced context that the poster felt was necessary to fully understand the complexities addressed in the post. The FBI is training an entire cadre of SJW hires to address this problem.
Posted by: Hrothgar McCabe at June 21, 2017 08:19 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:19 PM (Q93p4)
___
Didn't you hear the part about where Trump's pants don't even have creases?
What is with you people?!?!
Posted by: David Frum at June 21, 2017 08:19 PM (aZq03)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2017 08:20 PM (Ot7+c)
It was pretty sweet though. You could take it out the quarter mile and race it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 21, 2017 08:20 PM (LTHVh)
***
Was he trying to assassinate the Republican leadership
or
Trying to terrorize the Republicans by killing prominent ones.
or
Both?
I'm pretty sure the answer is both...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2017 08:20 PM (aZq03)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 08:20 PM (sBOL1)
So now, fake news cnn and fake news msbnc are back to the fake Russia investigation, while Fox carries the President's rally.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:20 PM (Q93p4)
The reason I bring this up is: that lump of flesh is the only thing I know of that's more useless than the FBI.
I recall many years back, a pastor somewhere in one of those rectangular flyover states was stabbed to death, stripped naked, stuck to the floor in crucifixion pose at the altar of the church, and pentagrams and "666" were painted all around.
The FBI assured us that not only was this "not a satanic crime," but that "satanic crimes are an urban myth."
The crime was perpetrated by (I love this phrase) "self-styled satanists."
Hmmm... I've never heard of a "self-styled Christian."
We may never know the motive, am I right?
Posted by: RKae at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (Ct7LH)
Yeah, him asking people if it was Dems or Repubs practicing was just his way of making small talk.
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (Tk0gg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (oBuXO)
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (++X6V)
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 08:22 PM (v7o4i)
Hey Slick ...
... assuming you're "targeting my child" - the best outcome you're going to get is a Butt the Fuck Out. It gets uglier from there. Your call.
And you know what - as long as my kids live in my house - they can have a different opinion. But understand their opinion doesn't matter.
And no - my kids don't get to vote as long as they're living on my dime. Who says so ?
I say so.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 21, 2017 08:22 PM (fiGNd)
Yeah, him asking people if it was Dems or Repubs practicing was just his way of making small talk.
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (Enq6K)
Didn't they also find a hit list of people in his truck?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 08:22 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:23 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2017 08:23 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:20 PM (Q93p4)
And they are too stupid to realize that --taken to it's logical conclusion--that argument is an indictment of the Obama administration's lax cyber security, not a presidential candidate's....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:23 PM (7uYFy)
Odd how there are thousands of lone wolves across the world all doing the same thing
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 08:19 PM (auHtY)
Coincidence.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:24 PM (sdi6R)
On the not terrorism-terrorism:
(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that-
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended-
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331
The FBI proving once again that they are utterly useless except at political tools.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 21, 2017 08:25 PM (tbOMB)
I'd say all of the Lefties opining that this should be a wake-up call for the GOP to finally embrace gun control as proof of terrorism.
More than that, the guy sure seemed to be intent on changing the balance of power in Congress. Taking out 25 member of the majority party opens up some interesting possibilities, especially the conservative Majority Whip, whom he shot first.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 08:25 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Skip at June 21, 2017 08:23 PM (Ot7+c)
Sounds like a great trip.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:25 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Jean at June 21, 2017 08:25 PM (9TU00)
Antifa is a terrorist organization.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 21, 2017 08:26 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 08:22 PM (auHtY)
Not a hit list, silly....he was gonna order pizza to be delivered for them.
I swear to God...do they KNOW we're laughing at their lame announcements?
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:26 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:26 PM (Tk0gg)
Didn't they also find a hit list of people in his truck?
----
Yes, however, we have decided that the list was in reference to the baseball game, and those were the people that he expected to have a "hit," in the vernacular of that game.
So really, it was all harmless.
Posted by: The FBI is ISIS at June 21, 2017 08:26 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (Tk0gg)
Um, if you expect me to say no to anything bathed in tequila, you don't know me very well.
Though, I will say, we can only stay for 4-5 hours max due to dog restrictions. Freaking responsibilities suck.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 08:26 PM (/o9Qk)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 21, 2017 08:23 PM (7uYFy)
Fascinating how that works isn't it?
I didn't see the Meh Johnson testimony today, did anyone ask him about this?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 08:27 PM (gwPgz)
He's the bottom.
Gollum is the top.
Blame Ace for this imagery, not me.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 21, 2017 08:27 PM (F0ZHr)
Posted by: Lizzy
Of course, their replacements would have been to the right of Curtis Lemay -- so the logic doesn't work out.
Posted by: Jean at June 21, 2017 08:27 PM (9TU00)
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2017 08:27 PM (XoldI)
Did you hear a high pitched whine because he was spinning in it?
Posted by: tu3031 at June 21, 2017 08:27 PM (qJhUV)
I call him President. And that's something I never called cliton or ubamba.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2017 08:28 PM (zLDYs)
Unfortunate business, but it happens. And he did have a deer hunting license, so really, there was no crime committed.
Posted by: The FBI is ISIS at June 21, 2017 08:29 PM (aT+Bx)
Yeah, him asking people if it was Dems or Repubs practicing was just his way of making small talk.
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:21 PM (Enq6K)
Didn't they also find a hit list of people in his truck?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 08:22 PM (auHtY)
++++
The F.B.I. could not look worse if they tried.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 21, 2017 08:29 PM (wI4ew)
***
Ask him? Why hasn't he been arrested yet? Hacking a state election office is a crime, no?
The feds aren't allowed to commit state tax fraud and then claim they were just testing the security of the state tax system are they?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2017 08:29 PM (aZq03)
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 08:29 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 21, 2017 08:29 PM (lwiT4)
I didn't see the Meh Johnson testimony today, did anyone ask him about this?
He kinda took hillary clinton to the woodshed and spanked her. Said she shoulda turned over her server and maybe these hackers woulda been caught last Summer! (or something like that)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:30 PM (Q93p4)
Democrats have blown through $35 million on special elections since President Donald Trump took office and do not have a single victory to show for it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:30 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (Tk0gg)
The UC Merced stabber (remember him? the MSM doesn't) not only had an ISIS flag in his dorm room, but left behind a manifesto...and we were told not motive known.
And then there's Hillary and Comey's assertions about her intent.
Why would anyone believe what the FBI tells us?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (PUmDY)
***
The left alternately believes "fly over" Americans are idiots and secretly liberals, and given a chance would vote for liberals...so I don't think The Democrat's Assassin really thought he'd just get more conservative Republicans elected.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (aZq03)
Batting order.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2017 08:27 PM (XoldI)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (SRKgf)
I'm surprised liberals just don't burst into flames from these rallies.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2017 08:29 PM (aZq03)
The operative phrase is "If the (Democrat) President does it, it must be legal!"
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (gwPgz)
I would have tried my best if that meany Trump hadn't fired me.
Posted by: James Comey at June 21, 2017 08:32 PM (6hUAo)
He's probably the reason I own so many .38 snubbies. That guy could hit a gnat's gnose from 50 feet with one of those.
Posted by: Eromero
I spent thousands trying to match him. Finally gave up and just live with my limitations. Although the new 327mag revolvers have me thinking along those lines again.
Posted by: Jean at June 21, 2017 08:32 PM (9TU00)
I'm surprised liberals just don't burst into flames from these rallies.
That would be so awesome.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:32 PM (Q93p4)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (Q93p4)
Posted by: dantesed at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: grammie winger - soon to be dancing at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: washrivergal at June 21, 2017 08:29 PM (wI4ew)
I'm beginning to think we need to dissolve the FBI and the CIA, and start over.
And yes, I realize that we'd be blind and naked for a while, but ... aren't we pretty much blind and naked now?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 08:31 PM (Tk0gg)
I am looking forward to it.
Mr. D however, seems to be fearing for my life. I keep telling him that I will be ok. It ain't like I'm breaking a wild stallion. I already did that when I met him.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (/o9Qk)
Eh, the point was he was angry with Congress and wanted to create openings for replacements. For all we know he was banking on this attack re-starting the conversation on gun control, with a GOPe feeling shaken enough to change course. That's why I said killing of 25 Republicans created possibilities, not certainties.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 08:34 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:32 PM (Q93p4)
+++
That would be quite the sight!
Posted by: washrivergal at June 21, 2017 08:34 PM (wI4ew)
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (Enq6K)
This is what terrifies/infuriates the Reds: the people support him, not them, despite their best efforts to make it look otherwise.
Similarly, the people believe Trump, but don't believe the MSM.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:35 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:35 PM (Q93p4)
The replies are... Thunderdome-esque.
Lots of people are not happy with liberals and have no problem saying so at 4chan.
Posted by: shibumi at June 21, 2017 08:35 PM (aT+Bx)
And yes, I realize that we'd be blind and naked for a while, but ... aren't we pretty much blind and naked now?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (SRKgf)
++++
I couldn't agree more.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 21, 2017 08:35 PM (wI4ew)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 08:36 PM (K7RLJ)
---
Well, most of the time, when they say it's not terrorism, it's terrorism.
However, sometimes they will say it's terrorism and it is terrorism.
So really, just assume it's all terrorism especially if a muslime is involved.
Posted by: shibumi at June 21, 2017 08:37 PM (aT+Bx)
ha, yeah, they ain't babies anymore ... in size or influence at least.
yet, indeed, the engineered and weaponized platitudes they preach, we are told come from their superior "god" ... which is really just the Orwellian enemy of liberty we used to be taught to disdain.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 08:38 PM (Uh5GM)
Shooting people from Texas, Oklahoma, and Alabama and thinking you're going to grab guns in the aftermath is...stupid.
Like incentivizing sick people to sign up for health insurance, but not healthy people. Or handing a few billion dollars to apocalyptic mullahs...no strings attached. Or buying less than 200 fighter planes.
However, we do live in the Age of Stupid.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 21, 2017 08:38 PM (F0ZHr)
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2017 08:39 PM (hZ+us)
And yes, I realize that we'd be blind and naked for a while, but ... aren't we pretty much blind and naked now?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Need to recruit from an expanded armed forces set. At least we'll know they've taken one oath to defend and protect the USC and given a chance to betray it under watchful eyes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2017 08:39 PM (udajc)
Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at June 21, 2017 08:39 PM (nvMvs)
And yes, I realize that we'd be blind and naked for a while, but ... aren't we pretty much blind and naked now?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (SRKgf)
It's worse than that. They are purposely looking in the wrong direction all of the time. It's like having the SPLC in charge of them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 08:39 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:40 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 08:33 PM (xAvrH)
There's a sociology professor somewhere writing an op-ed making that exact argument.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 08:40 PM (kmw8f)
***
Spin up a new version of the CIA based on Military Intelligence. Have them report to the Secretary of Defense. Current CIA can join the new organization on a case by case basis but would require personal approval by Mattis, and would become military personal.
Make leaking intelligence gained through intelligence assets, operating within the US, or working with another country to operate within the US a capital crime.
For the FBI identify the most competent state level cops and prosecutors. Have them spin up a shadow FBI that current FBI members are banned from joining.
The new FBI reports to the collective governors of the US - and every two years the current head of the FBI gets an up or down vote by state governors. If the vote is no, they get to nominate and vote for the new head of the FBI.
Move cases and budget from the old orgs to the new ones over the course of the next 4 years.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 21, 2017 08:40 PM (aZq03)
My man.
One further thought: base the FBI and CIA in Omaha.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:43 PM (SRKgf)
and they must love our people and support our values.
common sense is truly lovely.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 08:43 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:44 PM (Enq6K)
Sternly worded letters!
#hashtags!
Leading from behind!
An arsenal, powerful beyond comprehension by mere mortals those liberal "leaders" possess, do they not?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 08:44 PM (pNxlR)
Libtards everywhere are wondering why they can't intimidate him. "Why is he having so much fun? Waaaaaaaa"
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2017 08:44 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)
Trump is working the Iowa crowd like Elvis working a crowd of teen girls in the fifties.
Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at June 21, 2017 08:39 PM (nvMvs)
Just dont mention the teat known as ethanol
Posted by: A dude in MI at June 21, 2017 08:45 PM (CDETr)
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2017 08:45 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 08:45 PM (xAvrH)
Following up on this idea - that organizations tend to become Communist-infested over time - perhaps we need a sunset provision on foundations. After 25 years, come hell or high water, every foundation is dissolved, and taxed into oblivion.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:45 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: otho at June 21, 2017 08:45 PM (lmIoG)
Jared Loughner - not charged with terrorism.
I wonder what the evidence in this case shows? Maybe he wrote in his diary that aliens told him to do it?
Sooner or later we will know all the facts.
---
You may now return to your regularly scheduled cop-hate.
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 08:46 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Ian S. at June 21, 2017 08:46 PM (5dOnv)
and they must love our people and support our values.
common sense is truly lovely.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 08:43 PM (v7o4i)
Run! It's an outbreak of common sense!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:46 PM (SRKgf)
show for it."
It's got to be way more money than that.
Tossoff was thirty mill, counting outside liberal groups.
Quist in MT was $6M, just the campaign's own fundraising, not counting spending by outside groups.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 21, 2017 08:47 PM (ujwCG)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 08:47 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 21, 2017 08:48 PM (N5dam)
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:44 PM (Enq6K)
With big fucking solar-/battery-powered lasers frying the shit out of anyone with the temerity to stick a stinky toe across the border?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:48 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2017 08:48 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:48 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: mIKE at June 21, 2017 08:48 PM (c056A)
Like the first five years my parents were here? With my dad working the whole time? The horror! I don't know how we survived.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 08:48 PM (6FqZa)
P.S. The girls sitting behind him are cute.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 21, 2017 08:48 PM (sP31R)
The problem with our FBI is that they don't have enough to do, apparently.
Our FBI doesn't fight or solve crimes, anymore. They need to be given orders to start doing so.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at June 21, 2017 08:49 PM (Q93p4)
And they're both about dissolving borders and pretending people are interchangeable.
Obama moved his party to post-national Citizen-of-the-World status. Why would you want to be an icky American when your party leader spent the last eight years bad-mouthing America? open Borders are great--until you wake up one morning and find that Kim Jong Un is your dog-catcher.
As for Wheel of Bathrooms, I've heard lots and lots of opinions, but I've never heard one thing explained: how will we secure the dignity and safety of women and girls if every man in the world gets to chose which facilities he wants? That is the central question and it's dismissed as some superstitious quirk of history, if its addressed at all.
I've never heard that explanation and I never will. Because there is no good explanation.
btw, I wonder if its occurred to some of these smaller countries that demand Open Borders that a country like China could simply flood a small nation, such as, say, Panama, and end up with the Canal.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 21, 2017 08:50 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Hrothgar
===
I wonder, sometimes, how Alternate-Universe President HEB! is holding up.
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 08:50 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 21, 2017 08:50 PM (eMKNe)
Great. Then we get to tax the shit out of the rest of the world, right? I mean, if they're citizens and all ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: LASue
Sue, it may be the law, but I know a lot of illegals who are working under the table, collecting food stamps, and not paying taxes, but sending money home to Mexico every week.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: A dude in MI at June 21, 2017 08:45 PM (CDETr)
I'm not keen on ethanol or ethanol subsidies at all. However, if Trump continues to keep his promises, I'm willing to overlook a few things.
Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (nvMvs)
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 08:50 PM (Uxokn)
I just lost my bet that anyone cares about Yeb.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (SRKgf)
We could discuss a myriad of topics, or nothing at all.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (6gk0M)
-
What a long strange trip it's been.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (6FqZa)
Can you imagine this president doing an Apology Tour?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 08:52 PM (K7RLJ)
Imagine if they had to pay for all the sympathetic news coverage as well!
Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2017 08:52 PM (8zL5i)
How do you define "support themselves"?
I've talked in the past about a notional immigrant couple who "work hard and play by the rules". Except they have two kids who they promptly enroll in the public schools as soon as they get here.
In Commiefornia, those two kids promptly blow a thirty thousand dollar per year sized hole in the budget for their local school district. Because that's what K-12 costs these days. About $15K/pupil/annum.
So even if mama and papa are "working hard and playing by the rules", and even if this family draws on the public fisc in no other way (a vanishingly rare thing in practice), mama and papa still need to be paying thirty grand a year in taxes just for us to break even on having the family here. And odds are, they're not paying anything even remotely close to that in taxes.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 21, 2017 08:52 PM (ujwCG)
Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (nvMvs)
Me either, but art of the possible, and all that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:52 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 08:52 PM (K7RLJ)
---
"I'm sorry I nuked your puppet state"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2017 08:53 PM (QGoUX)
S"o sorry- did I kick your ass? ...again?"
Posted by: t-bird at June 21, 2017 08:53 PM (8zL5i)
You need a thinner dog catcher.
Posted by: barry from djakarta at June 21, 2017 08:53 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:53 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 08:52 PM (K7RLJ)
Or bowing to a bunch of malodorous Third World shitheads?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:53 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at June 21, 2017 08:54 PM (d9gy6)
Can you imagine this president doing an Apology Tour?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 08:52 PM (K7RLJ)
He's kinda doing that. Apologizing to America for obama.
Posted by: Buzzion at June 21, 2017 08:54 PM (z/Ubi)
Great. Then we get to tax the shit out of the rest of the world, right? I mean, if they're citizens and all ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (SRKgf)
I heard on the radio this morning that Philadelphia Mayor Kenney said that anyone who sets foot on American soil becomes an American.
The host was all like, "Does that include foreign tourists on vacation, too?"
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:54 PM (sdi6R)
That way it can power all the casino-like neon lights on top that continually flash "Make America Great Again". Make them so bright they'll be seen from outer space.
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2017 08:55 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: Tami
I admit I feel better about SCOTUS since their 8-0 ruling on free speech a few days back. Still, good.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 21, 2017 08:55 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: David Lee Roth at June 21, 2017 08:55 PM (sP31R)
(i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping.
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 08:55 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Unwoking Dead at June 21, 2017 08:55 PM (Nwg0u)
Well... we've heard talk that Ruth Baderhotep Ginsmosis was going to dodder into her sarcophagus for over a decade already, and...
Posted by: barry from djakarta at June 21, 2017 08:56 PM (6FqZa)
Nobody's here. I'm President of nobody. Stupid universe...
Posted by: Viva La Jeb! at June 21, 2017 08:56 PM (8zL5i)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 08:56 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Brian Wilson at June 21, 2017 08:56 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 08:56 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: JEM at June 21, 2017 08:57 PM (TppKb)
Posted by: LASue
Sue, it may be the law, but I know a lot of illegals who are working under the table, collecting food stamps, and not paying taxes, but sending money home to Mexico every week.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 08:51 PM (v7o4i)
No kidding. They also frequent free clinics and public hospitals. At Parkland Hospital in Dallas (where JFK was taken), every visitor gets materials to register to vote.
Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at June 21, 2017 08:57 PM (nvMvs)
Ginsmosis was going to dodder into her sarcophagus for over a decade
already, and...
Posted by: barry from djakarta at June 21, 2017 08:56 PM (6FqZa)
I think she's already dead and they're just propper her in chairs.
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:57 PM (Enq6K)
The teevee FBI: colossal supercomputers with full-wall holographic displays that instantly index and correlate petabytes of information from every imaginable federal database. Run by quirky technical geniuses who can solve any riddle.
The actual FBI: antiquated incompatible systems full of bugs, run by affirmative action hires who have difficulty with shoelace tying.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 21, 2017 08:58 PM (ujwCG)
Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:58 PM (Enq6K)
It was politically-motivated Aggravated Battery, and Attempted Mass Murder but they seem to have determined that it doesn't hit the check boxes for "terrorism" .
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 08:58 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: David Lee Roth at June 21, 2017 08:55 PM (sP31R)
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Ahem!
Posted by: Brian Wilsom at June 21, 2017 08:58 PM (oux+a)
http://illustrationart.blogspot.com/
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 21, 2017 08:59 PM (QGoUX)
-Posted by: Tami at June 21, 2017 08:57 PM (Enq6K)
Weekend at Ruthies?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at June 21, 2017 08:59 PM (6gk0M)
145 That's right! A stern warning! You heard me!
Do bad stuff again...and it goes on your permanent record! YOUR PERMANENT RECORD!
Don't test me!
I am ashamed to admit that I have a stain on my permanent record while an undergrad in the wilds of northern Michigan. My roommate, who was graduating one quarter earlier than me, may have been out imbibing adult beverages and may have been a little rowdy when we returned to the dorm. The charges, pressed by the lickspittle RA and revealed to us a couple of days later at a "disciplinary board" comprised of said lickspittle and the dorms' two adult managers, were that we had entered the hall after midnight, laughing boisterously, kicking doors and loudly saying "Ooooo!" References to a Three Stooges routine may have been made by our witty selves.
Boom. Lowered.
Trying to keep from laughing anew, we smirkingly accepted the shame and stain on our permanent records and promised that we'd not behave so churlishly there ever again. The guffawing when we returned to our room, which was next door to the lickspittle's, went on for some time, aided by further consumptionof adult beverages.
How I have lived with and endured this shame for all these decades, I'll never know...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 09:00 PM (pNxlR)
It's a beautiful thing.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 09:00 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 09:01 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 21, 2017 09:01 PM (Bda8a)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 09:01 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: torquewrench at June 21, 2017 08:58 PM (ujwCG)
Also: needs ethanol-free gas to run properly.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:01 PM (jdX7+)
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 09:02 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: Tami
Will it fry people trying to climb over like those solar energy farms fry birds flying over?
Posted by: Aviator at June 21, 2017 09:02 PM (/Nite)
Compare and contrast to Obama and Clinton, who I think believe they were some type of Messiah-ish leader.
I'll take the former every time.
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2017 09:03 PM (hZ+us)
Posted by: ALH at June 21, 2017 09:03 PM (fvQp7)
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9
Who is this David Frum creature?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 07:47 PM
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I have only heard of him as the inspiration for the phrase "Frum-unda-cheese".
Posted by: irright at June 21, 2017 09:03 PM (vqzjE)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 09:01 PM (xAvrH)
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Just peruse farmersonly.com , that should clear up your urge pretty quickly.
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 09:04 PM (oux+a)
The reason many buffets no longer have the 'all you can eat!' sign out front.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 09:04 PM (6FqZa)
Compare and contrast to Obama and Clinton, who I think believe they were some type of Messiah-ish leader.
I'll take the former every time.
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2017 09:03 PM (hZ+us)
It's definitely refreshing, that's for sure.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 09:04 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Tami
Will it fry people trying to climb over like those solar energy farms fry birds flying over?
Posted by: Aviator
Well whatever you do, don't trust the fare at any taco stands located too close to the solar wall.
"Is this actual real beef?"
"Uh..."
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 21, 2017 09:05 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 09:05 PM (PUmDY)
The host was all like, "Does that include foreign tourists on vacation, too?"
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 08:54 PM (sdi6R)
Maybe we need to reinstitute the draft: starting with the most recent arrivals.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:06 PM (SRKgf)
PDT believes in AMERICA and so do I.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 09:06 PM (Tk0gg)
Assassination targets a public figure but terrorism victims are usually relatively unknown.
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 09:07 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Aviator at June 21, 2017 09:02 PM (/Nite)
There's an idea: focus a shitload of mirrors on the border all facing south. You want to approach the border? Better have on welder's goggles and SPF 5000.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (SRKgf)
Tuesday, Bridges told state lawmakers disruptive students would be disciplined but then made clear that amounted to a warning not to do it again.
Wow, are those kids in for it now. A warning to not do it again.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (auHtY)
It's like he was born to be president and I expect him to get better and better.
Posted by: Tuna at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (v7o4i)
Not the only thing they had in common.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (SRKgf)
PDT believes in AMERICA and so do I.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 09:06 PM (Tk0gg)
Don't forget they both have a raging hatred of white people
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (auHtY)
328 I heard on the radio this morning that Philadelphia Mayor Kenney said that anyone who sets foot on American soil becomes an American.
"How about if they subsequently refuse to buy soft drinks in your town and pay your exhorbitant tax on said soft drinks?" should have been the immediate follow-up question. He gets real pissy on THAT subject.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (pNxlR)
-Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (SRKgf)
The Great Wall of Archimedes.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at June 21, 2017 09:09 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 09:06 PM (Tk0gg)
Amen. Sadly, I think Trump is the first President since Reagan that really believes in America as a shining city on a hill!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 09:09 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 21, 2017 09:09 PM (eMKNe)
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It will likely be the first one they have ever received.
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 09:09 PM (Uxokn)
Makes me wonder how many black South Africans say to themselves, "Now that I think of it, the country was better off when the whites ran it." More than a negligible number, I bet.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:10 PM (jdX7+)
would have liked us to be the Liberal Unions of Progress. Mugabe
bankrupted Rhodesia into Zimbabwe.
Not the only thing they had in common.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Mugabe was a homosexual?
Posted by: Aviator at June 21, 2017 09:11 PM (/Nite)
These idiots masquerading as 'political analysts' are being plowed under by PDT.
PDT can run the ball. With authority.
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at June 21, 2017 09:11 PM (oBuXO)
"How about if they subsequently refuse to buy soft drinks in your town and pay your exhorbitant tax on said soft drinks?" should have been the immediate follow-up question. He gets real pissy on THAT subject.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
Is he another one of those who believe the distributors should pay the tax and not pass it along to the customer?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2017 09:11 PM (IqV8l)
Evergreen College President: Disruptive Students Will Be Given A Stern Warning
You want #hashtags with that?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 09:11 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:10 PM (jdX7+)
Actually, there was a recent story to just that effect: Africans saying that while they couldn't vote before, they had it better when whites ran the country.
Coincidence, no doubt.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:11 PM (SRKgf)
Alrighty then. Just for fun, I ran Timothy R. Slater thru Open Secrets to see if he's made any political contributions, but nope.
Ya know, there are plenty of lefty orgs that are quick to slap on the extremist label on all kinds of right leaning groups, to try and imply that all on the right are the same or enablers of extremists. But I guess to say that James T. Notkirk was just a regular run of the mill Democrat AND a terrorist is a bridge too far.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 21, 2017 09:12 PM (6jaju)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:12 PM (jdX7+)
Is he another one of those who believe the distributors should pay the tax and not pass it along to the customer?
Oh my, yes!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 09:12 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
Careful man, they play a serious game of Cornhole there.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 21, 2017 09:12 PM (udajc)
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 09:07 PM (Uxokn)
Sort of nit-picking here, but I think assassination targets a specific person, typically not necessarily a public figure.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 09:13 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 09:13 PM (IDPbH)
i'm sorry. sometimes he cracks me up.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 21, 2017 09:13 PM (WTSFk)
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It will likely be the first one they have ever received.
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 09:09 PM (Uxokn)
A warning without consequences is jerking off.
See, e.g., the UN or Europe since 1945.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:13 PM (SRKgf)
Those clever Republican parents insured a win with two words: "You're grounded!"
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 09:13 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: X-ray at June 21, 2017 09:14 PM (6hUAo)
I should've known Trump was going to win because of how much fun I was having. Everyone on the Trump train was having a laugh riot every day. I've never laughed so hard during a campaign.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 21, 2017 09:14 PM (4ErVI)
Why pay a dime? Put it on Youtube.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:14 PM (SRKgf)
Those clever Republican parents insured a win with two words: "You're grounded!"
And then they cut off the wifi...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 09:13 PM (IDPbH)
Honorary Moron? Maybe he can host a DCMoMe.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (jdX7+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 21, 2017 07:54 PM (PY9jH)*
Nice turn of a phrase.
Posted by: tbodie at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (kPMrr)
A warning without consequences is jerking off.
This does play to the students' strengths though.
Posted by: Aviator at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (/Nite)
oh good grief ... farmers supply food ... we have the cheapest and safest and most 'diverse" food supply in the world. (not China dog/snake style diverse I guess).
We pay farmers to grow nothing on millions of acres because we produce TOO MUCH. Farmers dies from job injury at twice the rate of the union cops, probably ten times the rate of union teachers that preach communism.
Yet you morons still cling to your religion of "kill the farmers first" to show how loyal you are to "capitalism".
You really want all those flyover acres run by globalist billionaires that hire third world aliens to run them? Have you thought this through at all?
Apparently not. We need a vibrant rural America ... the cities are run by Dem commies. Farmers in America produce TOO MUCH ... as used to be the case in Zimbabwe before the commies took control ... now the UN feeds them and they beg for white farmers to return, they promise not to confiscate their farms ... this time.
Ethanol the answer? It is just a way to sell some of the excess. But it is indeed a good way to convert sunshine into energy. Competes with drilling and refining oil. Dummies say burning food is bad ... must feed starving people in Africa. Well then growing cotton for your jeans (instead of food), or growing grass instead of food (in your lawn) is just as evil.
buncha dummies ... the Bible says use the food to defeat your enemy. (Joseph stored up corn and used it for "political leverage") ... but "we" must feed the nations for free? while they tried to screw us on the oil?
wake up people. lol
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 09:13 PM (xAvrH)
"And forget about your allowance. Do double shifts at Starbucks!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: San Francisco Cornholers Assoc. at June 21, 2017 09:16 PM (80X3Z)
And , more than Reagan, he punked the Dems, repeatedly, in ways that NO Republican has in modern times.
Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at June 21, 2017 09:16 PM (oBuXO)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 09:16 PM (Tk0gg)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (jdX7+)
AtC meeting President Trump, that would be a MoMee worth attending!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 09:17 PM (gwPgz)
Why should their be subsidies for anything?
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 09:17 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: X-ray
He'd be attracted to the mirrors like a moth to a flame. End up looking like the melting nazi from Indiana Jones.
Posted by: Aviator at June 21, 2017 09:17 PM (/Nite)
Posted by: Peaches at June 21, 2017 09:18 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Hrothgar
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Right. You're correct.
Hinckley was not a terrorist. Neither was Loughner. Neither was Brutus.
But they were all assassins.
Posted by: Mortimer - FInish Her! at June 21, 2017 09:19 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2017 09:20 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (SRKgf)
Warming to the topic, tax the shit out of Starbucks, tattoo parlors and tattoo removal parlors. If you're stupid enough to pay top dollar for stupid shit like that, you're stupid enough to pay for all the problems you cause.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:20 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2017 09:21 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (V+03K)
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Just popped in and saw this! Whereabouts will you be trying to park? Maybe I can help.
Posted by: bluebell ~ Mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 09:21 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (VdICR)
"How about if they subsequently refuse to buy soft drinks in your town and pay your exhorbitant tax on said soft drinks?" should have been the immediate follow-up question. He gets real pissy on THAT subject.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM (pNxlR)
Yeah, he seemed to be shocked that people started traveling to the suburbs to buy their soda. And he was outraged that wholesalers passed their increased costs on to retailers. Those evil greedy capitalists.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (jPLl0)
I'm beginning to think Session is the victim of an Alien abduction. A mysterious disappearance if you will.
Posted by: Under Fire at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (l4aLi)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (6FqZa)
And Hodgkinson was more than an assassin, he was a POLITICAL assassin!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (jdX7+)
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Oh man. I'd go for sure.
Posted by: bluebell ~ Mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (sBOL1)
-Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:20 PM (SRKgf)
Like, say... tanning salons?
Because who would own/go to one of those? Amirite?!?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at June 21, 2017 09:24 PM (6gk0M)
Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2017 09:24 PM (hZ+us)
OH yeah, Fuck you Paul Ryan, Read Art of the Deal
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 09:25 PM (Tk0gg)
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at June 21, 2017 09:25 PM (V+03K)
David Frum has been an idiot for a long time.
Anybody know if Evan Sayet is still his friend?
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:25 PM (EX4Wr)
Posted by: melanoma at June 21, 2017 09:25 PM (6FqZa)
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Evergreen College President: Disruptive Students Will Be Given A Stern Warning
Tuesday, Bridges told state lawmakers disruptive students would be
disciplined but then made clear that amounted to a warning not to do it
again.
Wow, are those kids in for it now. A warning to not do it again.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM
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"A warning to not do it again."
"Damn it." (Hitler after annexing Austria)
"Shit." (Stalin after raping the kulaks.)
"What will I do now?" (Mao after "Land Reform")
Posted by: irright at June 21, 2017 09:25 PM (vqzjE)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2017 09:22 PM (VdICR)
IIRC, he blew up the batteries that were storing said power.
And howdy all. It's been a while.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2017 09:25 PM (wzQhl)
389 378 Bluebell, You are kind to offer advice. We will be at Lake Anne Plaza (Kilnandco).
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at June 21, 2017 09:25 PM (V+03K)
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You shouldn't have any trouble parking there. I'm going to send your hubby an email.
Posted by: bluebell ~ Mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 09:26 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Jack Sock
you mean like our military?
In a perfect world with perfect people ... yeah, everyone would just do the right thing, maybe even grow their own food. We don't have paradise yet.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:26 PM (Uh5GM)
I bet he will be fast and furious in his assault.
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:27 PM (EX4Wr)
Well, you should be worried. My advice is to shoot all of them in the head after they get off the plane.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 21, 2017 09:27 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 21, 2017 09:08 PM
We've got this.
Posted by: Singapore at June 21, 2017 09:27 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 09:28 PM (PUmDY)
Well, you should be worried. My advice is to shoot all of them in the head after they get off the plane.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 21, 2017 09:27 PM (4ErVI)
"MS-13 members? What MS-13 members? No such people were on this plane."
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2017 09:28 PM (wzQhl)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2017 09:28 PM (kTF2Z)
And their children believed your lies of hope and change, you dirty scoundrels! It's not because they want their kids to think like they do. Good god the nerve of these people! Scapegoating the parents instead of seeing the real reason the parents are pissed. Where's all those future tech jobs obama lovers, what happened with Solyndra, shovel ready, the money got stuffed into your pockets and and your buddies then you're out. Scum of the earth liars!
Posted by: Alice at June 21, 2017 09:28 PM (eLvFT)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 09:29 PM (Tk0gg)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:26 PM (Uh5GM)
Division of labor/comparative advantage, FTW.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:29 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Mark Dempsey at June 21, 2017 09:29 PM (I7obf)
Posted by: Peaches
Nah, we are the luckiest because HCWNBPOTUS. Trump turning out more than competent is pure bonus.
And we should add a special thanks to TFG, who pushed the pendulum so far Left that even Trump was an attractive alternative to HRC.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 21, 2017 09:29 PM (6jaju)
wake up people. lol
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:15 PM (Uh5GM)
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Well, thank you for the pinch faced scold rural farmer lecture, dummy.
Ethanol reduces mileage and ages car parts far faster than pure gas. The answer is to blow off burning food for fuel and stop paying farmers not to produce corn. Ya know, kill farm subsidies. Hows about that, Hoss?
Last I checked, a great many different produce items can be grown on land corn currently is growing on.
Maybe, get this, farming operations will have to grow crops that there is no longer an artificial demand for to survive as a business. It would almost be like market economics would rule the day, and not the Ag lobbyists.
Freaky concept to those of you in corn country, right?
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 09:29 PM (oux+a)
ethanol cuts emissions and keeps the air clean. It cuts down on the use of foreign oil and it helps family farms stay in business.
it's been fantastic for my family and for the midwest.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 09:29 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:30 PM (EX4Wr)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 21, 2017 09:30 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at June 21, 2017 09:30 PM (V+03K)
Amazingly enough, those "studies" majors aren't in much demand.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 21, 2017 09:30 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2017 09:28 PM (kTF2Z)
I'm still hoping there's serious reorganization stuff and planning for the future going on at DoJ, but my hope is fading day by day!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 09:30 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Jack Sock
you mean like our military?
In a perfect world with perfect people ... yeah, everyone would just do the right thing, maybe even grow their own food. We don't have paradise yet.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:26 PM (Uh5GM)
So you don't have a problem with the government subsidizing solar cars?
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 09:31 PM (sdi6R)
Condolences, Duke, on the end of the funemployment the previous administration endowed you with.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:31 PM (jdX7+)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:30 PM (EX4Wr)
Once we finish all of the anal probes we will send him back.
Posted by: Alien With A Face Unit Pincer at June 21, 2017 09:32 PM (l4aLi)
Fixed this para ti, ese.
Posted by: agusto pinochet at June 21, 2017 09:32 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 09:33 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:33 PM (EX4Wr)
Posted by: Witchdoktor, aka VA GOP Sucks at June 21, 2017 09:33 PM (2VN2E)
OK, y'all know bit is 1/8 of a dollar, but did you know that a bob is a shilling, i.e. 1/20th of the old pound sterling, or 5 new pence?
You should stick with the old Pence. May come in handy...
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 21, 2017 09:33 PM (Eynls)
Posted by: agusto pinochet at June 21, 2017 09:34 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 09:34 PM (sBOL1)
Yep.
No Liberal Studies here.
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:33 PM (EX4Wr)
Congrats on her no longer being (just) a B.S.er. ;-)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 21, 2017 09:34 PM (wzQhl)
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"Why should their be subsidies for anything?
Posted by: Jack Sock
you mean like our military?
In a
perfect world with perfect people ... yeah, everyone would just do the
right thing, maybe even grow their own food. We don't have paradise yet.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:26 PM (Uh5GM)
--------I have no problem with the government paying for SOME things. Tell me why the subsidy for ethanol is necessary.
Posted by: irright at June 21, 2017 09:34 PM (vqzjE)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 09:34 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:34 PM (EX4Wr)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:35 PM (jdX7+)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at June 21, 2017 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 09:36 PM (v7o4i)
No kidding! He would have me giggling every time he laid into Hillary and Obama - saying things that *no one* ever dared to say about them, but so many have thought (and expressed in private or in comments). What a delight to hear someone unafraid to offend those two by speaking the obvious truth?
Particularly the time he went off on Huma and her creepy husband whom she shouldn't trust with national secrets. Dang, did he call that one or what?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 09:36 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 09:34 PM (6FqZa)
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By the way, we seem to be sorely lacking in terlit hobo recipes for our Moron cookbook.
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 09:36 PM (sBOL1)
Plenty of good-paying jobs re-insulating homes, we were told! Plenty of good-paying jobs installing solar panels, we were told!
That wasn't the case? Shocked face!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 21, 2017 09:36 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 09:36 PM (6FqZa)
Condolences, Duke, on the end of the funemployment the previous administration endowed you with.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 21, 2017 09:31 PM (jdX7+)
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I know, right? It's terrible. The paycheck, being able to pay the mortgage, etc. I will, however, endeavor to persevere.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2017 09:36 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 21, 2017 09:36 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: bluebell - mangiamo! at June 21, 2017 09:37 PM (sBOL1)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 21, 2017 09:37 PM (Tk0gg)
In a perfect world with perfect people ... yeah, everyone would just do the right thing, maybe even grow their own food. We don't have paradise yet.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:26 PM (Uh5GM)
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Funny, never saw anything about paying farmers not to grow crops in the Constitution. It does mention the Military quite specifically though.
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 09:37 PM (oux+a)
LOL. She had to take a ton of undergrad Comp. Sci courses that were prerequisites.
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:38 PM (EX4Wr)
And preppers! Remember that?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 09:38 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 21, 2017 09:39 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: Witchdoktor, aka VA GOP Sucks at June 21, 2017 09:39 PM (2VN2E)
It was a matter of great trepidation in my youth to hear the expression "g'is two bob", i.e. hand over two shillings (10 new pence). Shake down worse than the IRS!
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 21, 2017 09:39 PM (Eynls)
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:39 PM (EX4Wr)
And preppers! Remember that?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 21, 2017 09:38 PM (NOIQH)
And I think the training manuals for federal agents specifically mentioned people who carry around pocket Constitutions.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 09:40 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: George Bridges: President, Evergreen State College at June 21, 2017 09:41 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at June 21, 2017 09:41 PM (6gk0M)
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Thanks! Best to you as well.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2017 09:41 PM (kTF2Z)
OK, y'all know bit is 1/8 of a dollar, but did you know that a bob is a shilling, i.e. 1/20th of the old pound sterling, or 5 new pence?
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 21, 2017 09:33 PM (Eynls)
I keep a 10-bob note up my nose.
Posted by: Mean Mr. Mustard at June 21, 2017 09:41 PM (nvMvs)
faster than pure gas. The answer is to blow off burning food for fuel
and stop paying farmers not to produce corn. Ya know, kill farm
subsidies. Hows about that, Hoss?
Last I checked, a great many different produce items can be grown on landcorn currently is growing on.
Maybe, get this, farming operations will have to grow crops that
there is no longer an artificial demand for to survive as a business. It
would almost be like market economics would rule the day, and not the
Ag lobbyists.
Freaky concept to those of you in corn country, right?
Posted by: GOULD
not freaky ... concept and reality are not the same.
I have a couple vehicles over 100K miles, ethanol never an issue. It is hard on small engines that have not changes some things to adapt ... that does suck. I found a place that sell no-sthanol gas FTW. But small engines just need to change ... I think they like the revenue from rebuilding the carbs.
other crops can be grown sure ... but profitably? I am working on that ... grapes, other horticultural products ... but we have that "free market" (BS) thing that floods us with third world products that use slaves and pollute. Two buck chuck is a wine ($3 after out of state tax) that lets slave labor in CA sell cheap wine, and depressed currencies in Chile and the like sell on the cheap. It is a complicated thing, and "free market" is a misnomer meaning globalists can sell products into America that were produced using third world slaves with little restriction on pollution or labor law. Get It? (no you don't)
and you call me a dummy? while I have at least 30 IQ points on you? (I can tell by your argument, you can't tell, cuz you are the dummy)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:42 PM (Uh5GM)
Thanks. I'm around. Worked late ... threw a quick bitch-fest rant up ... and then pushed around the weights.
Getting old sucks.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 21, 2017 09:42 PM (fiGNd)
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The next gen of MS-13 guys will have no tats. None whatsoever.
Posted by: JAS at June 21, 2017 09:39 PM
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I don't think they can restrain themselves for long. The average criminal's lack of self control is one of their most common traits.
Posted by: irright at June 21, 2017 09:43 PM (vqzjE)
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 21, 2017 09:43 PM (eMKNe)
And we need to get all the ex-military gear back from the local police. There's no reason for them to be using any of that stuff in this country.
Posted by: notsothoreau at June 21, 2017 09:44 PM (JKNZq)
I frequently carry more than one. I buy them in bulk and give them away to young people. I particularly like the one with commentary by Michael Connelly of the United States Justice Foundation. Cato Foundation also has some nice ones.
Posted by: Eromero at June 21, 2017 09:46 PM (zLDYs)
We wants it, we needs it. Must have the Frum cornhole!
They stole Frum cornhole from us. Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, horny!
Posted by: Gollum Wearing Assless Chaps at June 21, 2017 09:46 PM (NyJwR)
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 21, 2017 09:46 PM (Eynls)
and don't call me Hoss. Hoss was my dad.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 09:49 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: Fritz at June 21, 2017 09:50 PM (biUNZ)
That's just silly. The military is funded as mandated by the Constitution.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 09:51 PM (IDPbH)
to grow crops in the Constitution. It does mention the Military quite
specifically though.
Posted by: GOULD
That was not your argument. You said nothing should be "subsidized".
What did the constitution say about an income tax? What about state's rights? We are a nation full of taxes that favor one thing over another. Many of those are determined by special interests that own our government.
Food supply (and energy) is an essential "common welfare", right up there with a military.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:53 PM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 09:51 PM (IDPbH)
You cannot consider providing for a National military capability to be a subsidy!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 21, 2017 09:53 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 09:51 PM (IDPbH)
That's not silly.
Now ... sweating in one's own basement for an hour pushing around steel weight, instead of finding productive shit to do like I just did ... that's damn silly.
I gotta' find better things to do. Side job ? Projects ?
I ain't shitting. Not a humble brag. My ancestors would look at what I just did and shake their damn heads.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 21, 2017 09:55 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 09:42 PM (Uh5GM)
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In case you missed it, and apparently you did, I was responding in kind to your addressing the Horde in general.
This kinda makes me doubt that thar IQ claim, but I have seen far worse typed into gray boxes here on the Interwebnetz by far better people than yourself.
Have a great night and don't forget that Christmas card for supporting your lazy ass.
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 09:56 PM (oux+a)
Posted by: Pete Seria at June 21, 2017 09:59 PM (lJW6d)
Posted by: Hrothgar
Technically ethanol is not subsidy either, if you want to be pedantic. The point is government actually spends a LOT on a superpower military that provides an umbrella of defense for many nations, yet gives tax ADVANTAGES for some ethanol plants to support our food production.
But the real "subsidies" for sending dumb kids to college to be brainwashed by subsidized commie college profs ... that's just hunky dory? Or the "subsidy" for incompetent teachers that can't be fired to brainwash our kids into hating America? (in IL we MUST pay all their golden retirement bennies, even as everything else is shut down ... bennies they got by bribing union officials that bribe our government).
But sure, let's cut the knees out of all those programs that have given you weenies the best/safest/diversified food supply in the world. I can tell you farmers have to be competent on their own ... or they fail, unlike most of the unionized babied government workers. This farmer hate is pathetic. Ethanol is just one program to keep the food production base energized.
So much better to have China pay $4/bushel than $2/bushel. Most of that corn goes to beef ... so quit eating meat if you "really care" about feeding the world. sheesh
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 10:08 PM (Uh5GM)
This kinda makes me doubt that thar IQ claim, but I have seen far
worse typed into gray boxes here on the Interwebnetz by far better
people than yourself.
Have a great night and don't forget that Christmas card for supporting your lazy ass.
Posted by: GOULD
I addressed the ethanol comments, and those that have voiced such ignorant sentiments. That is not a broad based attack on all the horde, just those that don't "get it".
how do you know those other people are "far better people than yourself"? Of course, you don't know. I've averaged in the 140s, but IQ ain't everything, and there are very knowledgeable people at this site that I admire and listen to, for their experience and wisdom and book learning. I'm sure many have higher IQs than I, and many have achieved much more in other arenas.
"lazy ass" ... there you go again with the personal insult. In college I worked 30 hours overnight, and ran fellowships in the evenings, and still got my degree. Over time I've been known as the guy that gets things done ... but indeed I have slowed down a little.
So you have no ideas on how to revitalize the rural communities? Those are the places that voted Trump ... cities are sold out to Dems. My mission is to reverse that trend.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 10:23 PM (Uh5GM)
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Did you really miss that I was referring to you in that post? I'm doubting you even crack triple digits in regards to IQ points if so.
I've heard all the welfare rationilizations from you section 8 writ large farmers. I'm from your now shithole of a state. Had the good and apparently unusual sense to bail on it 30 years ago. I even heard one of yours make the argument that dot Govvy has plenty O money, because, you see, all that gold at Ft. Knox is only valued at $20/oz.
There you have it! Problems all solved!
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 10:41 PM (oux+a)
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Fixed. Or did someone beat me to it?
Posted by: andycanuck at June 21, 2017 10:42 PM (nlbfN)
I vaguely recall Tea Party rallies with people holding signs saying "Don't touch my Medicare" or something like that.
But equating farm subsidies with military spending is a real jaw-dropper.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 10:47 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 10:47 PM (sdi6R)
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Such is the mindset of those taking Gov cheese, while thinking they are helping anyone but themselves. They are rent seekers, and can go straight to hell , on my dime, of course.
At least the urban welfare cases will acknowledge the program they are on.
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 10:54 PM (oux+a)
money, because, you see, all that gold at Ft. Knox is only valued at
$20/oz.
There you have it! Problems all solved!"
well congrats on getting out I guess. I actually moved back here a little less than 20 years ago. I'm "down with the struggle". ha
I can't make sense of your gold comment ... or how that crazy person is "one of mine". We have a fully fiat currency since Nixon, so the "feds" can print as much as they want regardless of Ft. Knox gold, but IL has to balance their budget, supposedly.
One solution that has a little attention ... "cold fusion". That is using quantitative easing to create all the money we need out of nothing ... no bonds that have to be sold, just add the money to the electronic ledger.
We paid the Continental Army with paper currency, so if you like going back to those days ... voila. Not sure lottery winners will like their IL colonial style paper, but it is what the whole federal government is operating on now ... so as you say "There you have it! Problems all solved."
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:02 PM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: rickl
Gould said "no subsidy for anything". Subsidy is a specific term perhaps, but our government funds things for the "common good". Ethanol is not a subsidy ... not a direct payment, just taxed at a lower rate, to encourage production in a certain area.
Military is closer to a real "subsidy" as it is completely funded by taxes. That is "pure subsidy". It is just a semantic argument that started with the misnomer of lower taxes being a subsidy. As if government taking less of the profit is the same as government taxing others to give it to the ethanol thang.
Ethanol is not "subsidized", so un-drop your jaw. Some items pay lower taxes than other things ... that is different than straight funding. But establishing consistent food producers is at least as important as being global policeman. If government ran all the farms, we'd probably be like Russia or Zimbabwe, even as gov union farmers went on strike for longer vacations, higher pay, safer conditions.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:23 PM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 11:23 PM (oux+a)
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 11:29 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:23 PM (Uh5GM)
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Got it. You have your justification for accepting and eating Govvy cheese the rest of us provide for you down cold.
How does it feel to be no better than an illegal welfare momma?
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 11:30 PM (oux+a)
Plenty of people with high IQs seemingly have no comprehension of economics.
Posted by: rickl at June 21, 2017 11:35 PM (sdi6R)
How does it feel to be no better than an illegal welfare momma?
Posted by: GOULD
got it, you think farmers have it easy, and get a check from you for nothing, and those half million dollar tractors require no maintenance, they run forever on their own.
... farmers (I'm not really a farmer, just a hobby early retirement thing on relatively small acreage) ... they work longer hours than cops and die on the job at twice the rate. They have no guaranteed pension, no early retirement, pay their own benefits, no union to squeeze pay raises out of a duped public.
You really want to compare the guys that supply your cheap and awesome food selection with an illegal welfare momma? Your IQ is showing again.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:42 PM (Uh5GM)
I knew you'd play the victim card sooner or later.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 21, 2017 11:43 PM (IDPbH)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:42 PM (Uh5GM)
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See 472 and 480.
Posted by: GOULD at June 21, 2017 11:50 PM (oux+a)
Plenty of people with high IQs seemingly have no comprehension of economics.
Posted by: rickl
I just bring up the IQ thing cuz I get labeled a dumb farmer or "corn holer" by the geniuses that have ethanol all figured out, and sometimes just get fed up with the crap.
But I don't see you debating economics, just you claiming I don't understand economics. You are not debating what I said, which I believe is accurate.
"Free Market" mythology is as big a myth as the glories of communism. Great in theory, practical application is a completely different animal. Countries look out for themselves, and in the US corporations bribe government to look out for the corporation first. They called that "free market" to fool the rubes, while they exported the jobs to communist slave nations, or imported the slave labor.
But I am no academic on economics. I like these guys though ... and I have spent a lot of time reading theories, day traded for a couple years, tried to keep up with the funny money games being played with the bailouts for billionaires and so forth.
http://www.prosperousamerica.org/
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:54 PM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:23 PM (Uh5GM)
I'd rather pay to have that corn thrown out than let someone destroy my gasoline (and all my engines) with that shit ethanol. And I don't even get a choice. No. Ethanol is forced on me.
There is no justification for ethanol, at all. NONE.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 21, 2017 11:55 PM (rZ+mb)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2017 11:54 PM (Uh5GM)
Uh ... that's just silly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 21, 2017 11:56 PM (rZ+mb)
goodnight.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 11:59 PM (v7o4i)
Posted by: Jack Sock
brilliant ... I just explained I am not a farmer ... just have some acres, very small. I ran my own business in a large town most of my life, service industry thang. I worked independent my whole life, did a lot of volunteer work ...
this ethanol subject really drives people to hate ... kinda like the left and their global warming thing. Can't discuss details ... just flaming trash comments.
Farmers bad, just like welfare queens. Firemen and cops and teachers ... early retirement union jobs ... they are super awesome. Got it .. I understand now.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 12:01 AM (Uh5GM)
goodnight.
Posted by: booknlass at June 21, 2017 11:59 PM (v7o4i)
Please, he started out insulting basically everyone who posts here.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 22, 2017 12:02 AM (IDPbH)
You must grow straw on your small hobby farm.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 22, 2017 12:03 AM (IDPbH)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
heh ... well it is (intentionally) "provocative", but it is not silly.
The Chicago School of Economics (if it was an exact thing) started teaching that only the bottom line mattered. (no obligation to country or "liberty"). That maybe was always true in a sense, but when government played along (politicians had their own greedy reasons) ... it became a problem.
The saying used to be "what is good for GM is good for America". You being one of the smart guys here, can surely see the problem of corporatism, which is what led to policy that propped up markets, at the expense of everything else.
"Free Trade" was the banner under which easy money policy led to "irrational exuberance", and that was way back in 1993 (or so). Trump in 1990 was testifying about the taxation problem (it's on CSPAN) and how tax incentives were bubbling up the market and depressing US (real estate especially) investment.
Smart guys like Bill Fleckenstein write books about the easy money problem, and deem guys like Greenspan to be the worst evils for America.
(that is just my brief summary, but I appreciate that my provocative statement got your attention. I basically believe it to be true though, even as I understand the good things that came from all that easy money. But the debt is also a real thing)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 12:13 AM (Uh5GM)
Because ethanol is such awful dogshit and it's forced on us and our machines.
Farmers bad, just like welfare queens.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 12:01 AM (Uh5GM)
I don't blame the farmers. I blame the politicians. But I have serious problems with anyone who tries to defend ethanol. Like I said, I'd rather pay farmers to just grow the corn and throw it out than have it put into my gasoline.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 22, 2017 12:15 AM (rZ+mb)
Posted by: Jack Sock
no, just the ethanol haters that don't understand the big picture, and that call it "subsidy".
One other "conservative" source dismayed me as well, a few weeks back. They said they calculated how many people died from starvation due to using corn for ethanol. ... well gee, are we responsible to feed the world?
AND, what about those cotton jeans ... people grow cotton instead of food? How many die so we can wear cotton jeans, did he calculate that?
It is just crazy ... mostly I just give up on those completely spurious arguments, but really, we could feed the world if we all quit eating meat, and bulldozed every acre into crop ground, and ... what else. Ethanol has became the "whipping boy" ... thank God we have fracking and brought the oil price down as the evil OPEC and gang tried to screw us ... but anyway.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 12:22 AM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
yeah the mandate is close to "subsidy" in that sense. Choice is always better. But it is a real fuel that works fine in engines made for it, which is most. It made more sense when we were under "peak oil" conditions.
15 years ago Illinois was pushing a wine grape movement, sending out a couple viticulturists to get people/farmers to invest a few acres to grapes. It fell apart largely due to the wine grape glut ... which is supported by cheap foreign labor and "free trade". Sadly it is hard to get American help on the farm, to do horticultural type field work. Robots may offer a partial solution. I think a vital rural America is essential, ethanol was one tactic.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 12:30 AM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: Beverly at June 22, 2017 12:39 AM (zD1VW)
Biggest crash in history coming. Others have been saying such, but Rogers has been pretty good.
America First has broad implications, and broad applications. We have to support the real producers in America (that is coal and food and steel ... everything). So that is why the "blame ethanol" stuff is irritating. Do people not see our debt cliff, or market bubbles, on top of all the corruption?
Maybe it is already too late economically, and maybe "they" already run all government. I know a smart Berkeley guy who says America was toast long ago. Trump and "America First" is a last hope ... but there will be pain.
businessinsider.com/jim-rogers-worst-crash-lifetime-coming-2017-6
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 12:52 AM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 22, 2017 12:53 AM (vJCwr)
I agree. And I have no problem with some governmental "help" in this. It's a matter of national security, to a good extent.
ethanol was one tactic.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 12:30 AM (Uh5GM)
This is where we split. There was nothing good about ethanol, ever - not to my mind. I would have been fine with many other methods of helping and sustaining American farms and production but ethanol is just not one of them.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 22, 2017 12:57 AM (rZ+mb)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 22, 2017 12:59 AM (rZ+mb)
Does anyone remember the global rice crisis back in 2008? Farm subsidies are a small price to pay to avoid that here.
PS: Claiming that Virginia agriculture/ government was always about freedom and "constitutional principles" should get you houndeed out of the room.
Posted by: trev006 at June 22, 2017 01:02 AM (5Ag3u)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 01:24 AM (Uh5GM)
"When Congress debates what the Chinese government considers trade
distorting legislation, he states, it is not unusual for the Chinese
government "to pressure multinational companies to weigh in with
Congress to prevent the legislation from passing"
American companies give into such pressures because the Chinese
leverage them to do so in and it helps to ensure higher profits, at
least in the short run, for their shareholders and top managers."
prosperousamerica.org/china_and_the_concept_of_leverage
Posted by: illiniwek at June 22, 2017 01:29 AM (Uh5GM)
Posted by: R.U. Kidding at June 22, 2017 01:50 AM (1jMXq)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 22, 2017 03:59 AM (mpXpK)
All across Georgia's 6th Congressional District this fine morning, live-at-your-folks-homes Millennials are arising and smiling. "Today we vote!" they think, "Today we vote!"
Well done, Moms and Dads! Well done, indeed!
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