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RIP: Otto Warmbier, Returned from North Korea in a Coma after 17 Months Detention, Dies Days After His Return
Incidentally, Warmbier's fellow roommate recently spoke with the press and said Warmbier had done absolutely nothing wrong to warrant his imprisonment and abuse by the North Koreans. He says Warmbier didn't steal that propaganda poster that the North Koreans say he did -- and used as a pretext to sentence him to 15 years of hard labor, and a fatal coma.Their second night in Pyongyang was New Year's Eve and the whole group went out into the city square before coming back to the hotel for more drinking. This is the night that Warmbier allegedly committed the offense inside the hotel for which he would later be given a sentence of 15 years hard labor. The charge was that Warmbier allegedly went into a staff-only area of the hotel and tore down a propaganda banner hanging on the wall, intending to steal it. Two months later, North Korean state media broadcast a staged event showing a tearful Warmbier confessing to that crime and begging for forgiveness, clearly under duress.
Gratton said that in the four days they spent together, Warmbier never said anything about a banner and that he saw zero evidence that Warmbier was planning any such act -- quite the opposite. The first Gratton heard of the alleged attempted theft was when it was mentioned in news reports weeks later. Gratton and Warmbier weren't together 24 hours each day, but they traveled together during the day and hung out each night. "I've got nothing from my experiences with him that would suggest he would do something like that," he said. "At no stage did I ever think he was anything but a very, very polite kid."
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 05:27 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: HH at June 19, 2017 05:28 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Gazzer at June 19, 2017 05:28 PM (78b7J)
Posted by: Gazzer at June 19, 2017 05:28 PM (78b7J)
Posted by: The real Henderson James at June 19, 2017 05:29 PM (7A6l6)
Posted by: JuJuBee at June 19, 2017 05:29 PM (dargh)
Posted by: Taqyia2Me - Deplorubus Unum at June 19, 2017 05:29 PM (Ftuf+)
Terrible. Prayers for his family. Norks kept his shell alive as a bargaining chip no doubt
They should pay for this
Posted by: ThunderB at June 19, 2017 05:29 PM (YKfoO)
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 19, 2017 05:30 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Tentotwo at June 19, 2017 05:30 PM (yhf6w)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:30 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 19, 2017 05:31 PM (YKfoO)
Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 05:31 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: NCKate at June 19, 2017 05:31 PM (YZr8V)
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 05:31 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 19, 2017 05:31 PM (YKfoO)
Posted by: Tentotwo at June 19, 2017 05:30 PM (yhf6w)
Anywhere in the world if you're an American can be fatal, not just North Korea, London Bridge or Westminster for example. Especially lethal during the years 2009-2016.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:32 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Kensington at June 19, 2017 05:32 PM (Cw3TC)
PRO TIP:
1. Don't go to North Korea
2. If you do go to North Korea, don't go out drinking in North Korea
2. If you go out drinking in North Korea, don't come back to the hotel to do more drinking.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:32 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:32 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 19, 2017 05:32 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 05:31 PM (HgMAr)
They gathered to watch a Ping Pong ball drop???
(Pyong Yang Ball?_
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:33 PM (mbhDw)
Strategically, however, they should just be bombed. Pyongyang is mostly a privileged city reserved for Kim's most loyal supporters. No innocents there. LEVEL IT.
Posted by: CPT11A at June 19, 2017 05:33 PM (njAaQ)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 19, 2017 05:33 PM (YKfoO)
(Pyong Yang Ball?_
They all wait for midnight when the electricity comes on for five minutes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:34 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 19, 2017 05:34 PM (fceHP)
So they just picked an American kid at random to make an example of? Because that's what it sounds like to me.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:34 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: redenzo at June 19, 2017 05:35 PM (5wSNN)
Posted by: CPT11A at June 19, 2017 05:33 PM (njAaQ)
Unfortunately Kim may level something first.
Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 05:35 PM (3myMJ)
They should kill kim
No one will miss him. The issue is what hapoens to his nukes when we kill him
Time for a coup
Posted by: ThunderB at June 19, 2017 05:35 PM (YKfoO)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Eromero at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (SjImc)
This is "just one of those things" right? Too bad. Ah shucks.
Fuck that. Wth is the point of our govt if not to protect us?
Oh yeah. Free cheese and sex change operations.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (+5ofO)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (YKfoO)
Posted by: Average Guy at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (KqRop)
Posted by: Madeline Albright at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (j+dfT)
CIA does recruit our of UVA. They must have thought he was a spy
Posted by: ThunderB
Meh. Country Boy knows for a fact that he wasn't, so let's all shit on his death.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (udajc)
He was in a nearby country, saw an ad for a 5 day excursion and thought it would be a big adventure.
My question is, why him? Other Americans have traveled in and out of there without harm, including his roommate on the trip in question.
Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (3myMJ)
He was on an organized trip as I understand it... Not like the idiots in Iran who decided to hike there just for the hell of it... And from what I have read these were most likely fake charges...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (SjImc)
It would be. The Sea of Japan doesn't deserve to be polluted.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:38 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:38 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: NCKate at June 19, 2017 05:38 PM (YZr8V)
What'll happen if I steal a "Hate Has No Home Here" yard sign from my leftist's neighbor's yard?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 19, 2017 05:39 PM (q91FV)
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 05:39 PM (0kjoo)
Posted by: Jeff Carter at June 19, 2017 05:39 PM (Cgudb)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (YKfoO)
Posted by: Average Guy at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (KqRop)
He went during the years of Obama. When apologizing to the world and letting dictators run roughshod was all the rage. The poor kid must have thought it was finally a kumbaya world.
Sad. On every level imaginable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (mbhDw)
There was some "speculation" that he was used as a guinea pig...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: NCKate at June 19, 2017 05:38 PM (YZr8V)
I would NEVER let my kid go there or any place like that. I'd drag her off the plane by her hair.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: redenzo at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (5wSNN)
Posted by: navybrat at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (w7KSn)
Stay for the hospital beds.
Posted by: North Korea Tourism and Torture Department at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (3myMJ)
That's the big question. Sadly, I fear the answer is because they could.
Or maybe, just maybe, the tour group operator hadn't paid his kickbacks and this was payback.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:41 PM (dEQP3)
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It's not snark. It's an impassioned plea: DON'T GO TO NORTH KOREA!
How could it possibly be worth the risk? You want Korea, go to South Korea. Go to Normal, not Crazy/Savage Korea.
It's hard to get that through the heads of the "adventurous," but it could be a matter of life or death.
Posted by: Kensington at June 19, 2017 05:41 PM (Cw3TC)
Though I'm open to ways to make them hurt for this.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 19, 2017 05:41 PM (AM1GF)
That said, I've had an opportunity to go to North Korea but I turned it down because the leadership is completely unpredictable and I was afraid of getting taken off the plane on the way out for reasons that were completely outside of my control, like Warmbier was. There's nowhere that I'm that eager to see.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:41 PM (Mouru)
Young lives gone too soon.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (PY9jH)
Considering what's going on in Europe these days, North Korea probably is not that much of a crap shoot. I'm only being nominally sarcastic.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (mbhDw)
We can ignore it and still have some sympathy for the kid and his family. Having sympathy doesn't make you weak. Not having sympathy doesn't make you strong -- it just means you're cold-hearted, which is a kind of weakness.
The message I read in the message is that Fat Boy will continue to be provocative. He leads a pariah nation that must be dealt with as such.
The Chinese need to do more. Else nukes for the South Koreans, if they'll take them, and certainly for Japan.
Next step, selective blockade.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: ThunderB
Wasn't aimed at you, just every other fucknut here who knows for certain he wasn't part of a larger plan.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (udajc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: redenzo
++++
Yea, it's like having sex with a prostitute and getting AIDS
I'm not saying its deserved, but it was needlessly reckless and it got him killed.
All so he could have a cool story to tell
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (0kjoo)
Posted by: Wise Obama at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (vkS2Z)
I read that article, and his roommate supposes a lot, but has very little in the way of facts to back it up.
Nothing excuses the NK government's murder of an American citizen, but the kid could have done what they accused him of doing.
Think back to when you were a 21-year-old college student. You may have done equally stupid things. It's certainly not outside the realm of possibilities.
That being said, I would love it if Trump cut a deal with the Chinese to knock the fat fuck off in exchange for a new iPhone factory or whatever....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 05:42 PM (rF0hx)
Sad. On every level imaginable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (mbhDw)
....................
When caught in an illusion, often one is most vulnerable!
Posted by: Tentotwo at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (yhf6w)
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Posted by: Mr Pink at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (oze3i)
The charge was that Warmbier allegedly went into a staff-only area of
the hotel and tore down a propaganda banner hanging on the wall,
intending to steal it.
==
Well, then.
NOW I certainly understand why the Norks pithed him like a goddamned frog.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: mikesixes at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (ifFlr)
he did -- and used as a pretext to sentence him to 15 years of hard
labor, and a fatal coma."
NORKs used to kidnap regional actresse that caught dear leaders fancy... never to be heard from again.
Would they nab an american just to scramble his brains for shits and giggles.
Plauable.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (P/kVC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Country Boy at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (D2vc1)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (mpXpK)
True, but it's not like he just decided to go on a whim.. It was "supposedly" a reputable tour... The others on the tour were fine... No guess why he was singled out. It was under the obama reign and he did absolutely nothing to help this kid and his Family...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (O2RFr)
My question is, why him? Other Americans have traveled in and out of
there without harm, including his roommate on the trip in question.
===
Fucking idiot.
Had it coming.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (j+dfT)
"why did he go ?"
He was in a nearby country, saw an ad for a 5 day excursion and thought it would be a big adventure.
My question is, why him? Other Americans have traveled in and out of
there without harm, including his roommate on the trip in question.
Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (3myMJ)
You can't make anything that happens over there make sense in a Western, linear, cause-effect, logical way. They simply do not think that way. South Koreans don't either. And I don't know enough about the Chinese, but I suspect they don't either.
It's like the North Korean sub that sunk the South Koream ship a few years ago. I'm quite confident that firing the torpedo made sense to that sub commander. He was probably revenging his grandfather whose ship was sunk by the South Koreans in 1950, or something like that.
The entire ideology of juche makes no sense. Autarky has never worked anywhere, particularly communist autarky. It doesn't matter. It's North Korea's and it was invented by grandfather Kim. That's all you need to know.
Don't try to make any sense of this. It is literally senseless.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (jK8Z7)
I'm still pissed off about the east-coasters who gave my TX fiancee a hard time about W when we were in Ireland visiting my family before the wedding. With relevant apologies, that's when i coined the term "connecticunts" to go with her "massholes".
Posted by: Unsure if deplorable, covfefe moron at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (Eynls)
..........
Maybe Hate might find a nice home there after all.
Posted by: North Korea Tourism and Torture Department at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (HgMAr)
...something something land war in Asia...
With a 150, 000 man volunteer army when 500, 000 couldn't do the job in Vietnam.
If we're not gonna nuke 'em I'm not interested.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (HTdUD)
Posted by: mikesixes at June 19, 2017 05:43 PM (ifFlr)
When the entire godforsaken place is liberated, then I'll go.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (mbhDw)
that being said, anyone who goes to nork, iran, or any other hell hole should be on their own.
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (0wem/)
The numbers of Americans who go to North Korea each year as tourists are astonishingly small. You would stand out just for that.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (Mouru)
Remember the protective power of being a Roman citizen?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (J+eG2)
Don't climb that mountain. Don't ride that motorcycle. Don't take that dangerous ski run. Don't street race.
When I was 19 I went to Juarez. Got out, barely. Young people are adventurous.
Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (3myMJ)
Sad. On every level imaginable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:40 PM (mbhDw)
Oh, I agree. You couldn't pay me enough to go to NK at the best of times, let alone when we had a president who went around the world bowing to our foes and alienating our allies, surrendering our nation's standing in the world to appease the global literati.
The poor kid was naive to a fault, and for North Korea to use him as a statement against America, as I suspect occurred, should not go unpunished. The problem is finding a way to do so sufficiently without setting off a powder keg.
Posted by: Average Guy at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (KqRop)
Had it coming.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (Uxokn)
Doubt status, permanently removed.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (O2RFr)
I think when kids are taught that the U.S.A. is the worst and greediest place on earth and that all other countries have roads paved with rose petals, this is what we get.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 19, 2017 05:45 PM (wI4ew)
We should go in there and put the heads of all resisters on spikes.
Posted by: CPT11A at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (njAaQ)
Think back to when you were a 21-year-old college student. You may have done equally stupid things. It's certainly not outside the realm of possibilities.
That being said, I would love it if Trump cut a deal with the Chinese to knock the fat fuck off in exchange for a new iPhone factory or whatever....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
++++
I sort of agree
He probably did something stupid (considering he went to NK in the first place, he obviously lacks judgement) and pissed off the wrong person.
Completely undeserved and was murdered over probably something trivial.
I just don;t know what you do with NK unless you want to blow $10 trillion dollars in aid and a possible nuclear exchange.
If the NK people won't do anything, its hard for me to get motivated
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (0kjoo)
.........
a three hour tour
a three hour tour
Posted by: North Korea Tourism and Torture Department at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: mark1971 at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (a0IVu)
don't know enough about the Chinese, but I suspect they don't either.
===
Too bad.
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
- somebody WAY smarter than me
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (dEQP3)
I can't even tell you the stupid things I did...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (O2RFr)
Yeah but the West punished the Norks real bad for that one that they would never dare....oh wait, the West did Jack Shit....Never mind
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (SjImc)
...something something land war in Asia...
With a 150, 000 man volunteer army when 500, 000 couldn't do the job in Vietnam.
If we're not gonna nuke 'em I'm not interested.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 05:44 PM (HTdUD)
The US military was outstanding. The US military and political leadership was anything but. It is they that lost the war.
Actually, it was the Democrats that let the NVA capture the South and then unleashed the Killing Fields on all of Indochina. Blood on their hands. Sensing a pattern with the way the Democrats work.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Delayna at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (KNFU5)
That would at least be a good start to enforcing something like that
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (0kjoo)
Korea but I turned it down because the leadership is completely
unpredictable and I was afraid of getting taken off the plane on the way
out for reasons that were completely outside of my control, like
Warmbier was. There's nowhere that I'm that eager to see.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:41 PM (Mouru)
My father saw it for me courtesy of the United States Marine Corps. He told me all about the sights to see at Inchon and Chosin Reservoir. After his descriptions, I crossed North Korea off my list of places to visit someday.
Posted by: kathysaysso at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (vkS2Z)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Already have all iPhone factories, round eyes. What else you got?
Posted by: The Chinese at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
________
Speak softly and carry some dick pics.
Posted by: Anthony "Check Out My" Weiner at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (j+dfT)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (ROIz5)
Posted by: mark1971 at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (xPl2J)
Al Leppo sez you're nuts.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (mbhDw)
Or look at the Pueblo incident and the treatment of the crew.
You cannot make anything over there make sense. Dennis Rodman. What more need I say.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (jK8Z7)
Good job OBAMA
Yes OBAMA
Another problem swept under the rug by a criminal administration.
They all need to be fucking hung.
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (MIwBq)
That explains why he was "chosen " Thanks obama...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:48 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Already have all iPhone factories, round eyes. What else you got?
Posted by: The Chinese at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (Mouru)
You got Jewish deli?! Let's talk turkey, er, pastrami.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:48 PM (mbhDw)
Doubt status, permanently removed.
Posted by: alexthechick
===
Read the last thread.
Dead American kids are fair game, apparently.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:48 PM (Uxokn)
Obama never gave a fat rat's ass about their son.
Now, if he had looked like St. Trayvon....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (PY9jH)
Or look at the Pueblo incident and the treatment of the crew.
You cannot make anything over there make sense. Dennis Rodman. What more need I say.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (jK8Z7)
If only the NorKs drugged Rodman. He'd turn into a Clarence Thomas, probably.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: mark1971 at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (xPl2J)
Don't steal any posters, oh wait... they don't have any posters.
Posted by: North Korea Tourism and Torture Department at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (HgMAr)
capture the South and then unleashed the Killing Fields on all of
Indochina. Blood on their hands. Sensing a pattern with the way the
Democrats work.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (mbhDw)
Joe Biden was particularly proud of the role he played in that.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Bensdad00 at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (DkRXj)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (Hnqc1)
No good comes from visiting the Norks. He didn't deserve any of this. North Korea needs to end now...
Posted by: USNtakim at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 19, 2017 05:37 PM (udajc)
Since you brought me up, I wasn't shitting on his death.
I was and am shitting on the whole "oh this poor boy he didn't do anything wrong" bullshit.
Again the pro tip: DON'T GO TO NORTH KOREA. BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO AMERICANS THERE.
This ain't rocket science.
Posted by: Country Boy at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (D2vc1)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (Uxokn)
I had not seen the last thread and I apologize fully and sincerely.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (dEQP3)
I think when kids are taught that the U.S.A. is the worst and greediest place on earth and that all other countries have roads paved with rose petals, this is what we get.
Posted by: washrivergal
________
This.
Posted by: Furious George at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (j+dfT)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
their price is their new islands in the south china sea.
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (0wem/)
That would at least be a good start to enforcing something like that
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 05:47 PM (0kjoo)
How can you prevent a US citizen from going there from another country, like China? Maybe if you made some sort of deal with the Chi-Coms to not allow US citizens to enter North Korea from their territory.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (mbhDw)
The Kim family simply needs to die. Every single one of them above the age of 15 needs to be eliminated.
Final thought; I've heard more than one Marx quoting college student bloviate about how North Korea was being victimized by the West due to racism, sexism, imperialism and capitalism.
I have a strong suspicion that some professor of Warmbier's must have convinced him and his co-travellers that North Korea was a victim of Western propaganda, and that a visit to Pyongyang would be a poke in the eye of racist, sexist, capitalist, imperialist America.
Hopefully, eyes have been opened now.
Posted by: Martin Knight at June 19, 2017 05:51 PM (FROYa)
THEY ARE ALL IDIOTS
America is special. Americans are special.
We are right, They Are WRONG.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:51 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:51 PM (0wem/)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (Hnqc1)
They are busy... in Washington, trying to bring down the true enemy...
You know... President Trump?
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 05:52 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (mbhDw)
It's actually very simple...go to any of the below listed Countries with out the explicit consent of the State Department and we revoke your passport...oh sorry I forgot about the 9th Circuit...never mind
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:52 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2017 05:52 PM (J8wPE)
Posted by: CPT11A at June 19, 2017 05:52 PM (njAaQ)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (0wem/)
That is a non-starter. Trillions of dollars in trade sail through those waters, which since the end of World War 2 were kept open by every president, regardless of party . . . UNTIL . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:52 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 05:52 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (6Ll1u)
I am just a sad dad, thinking of another American dad on Fathers Day.
I am probly wrong and an idiot.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (Hnqc1)
They are busy... in Washington, trying to bring down the true enemy...
You know... President Trump?
Posted by: Don Q. at June
north korea is a dark hole from the human intel perspective.
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (0wem/)
Posted by: tu3031 at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:51 PM (0wem/)
Russian roulette, except with one empty chamber.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: navybrat at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (w7KSn)
There, I said it.
Also K-pop girls are hot.
Straight shooting, right from the hip.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (xJa6I)
/If you are a fucking idiot.
Posted by: Scott Pelley at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June
yep
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (0wem/)
north korea is a dark hole from the human intel perspective.
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (0wem/)
Isn't this really the story of Leftists?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:51 PM (0wem/)
yeah but that's not the point..he was killed because he is an AMERICAN.. and if we don't stand up for that, for America, than what kind of Country are we?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (Uxokn)
1. Don't go to North Korea
2. If you do go to North Korea, don't go out drinking in North Korea
2. If you go out drinking in North Korea, don't come back to the hotel to do more drinking.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:32 PM (Mouru)
--------------------------------
1. Don't go to North Korea
2. If you do go to North Korea, get the hell out.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (OmhcY)
On the other hand...Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead.
Posted by: Zapp Branigan at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (FgFCM)
I am probly wrong and an idiot.
I missed the other thread... Tell me you didn't lose a Child?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:54 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (dEQP3)
We don't want your kind around here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (rF0hx)
Posted by: mark1971 at June 19, 2017 05:46 PM (xPl2J)
Don't steal any posters, oh wait... they don't have any posters.
Posted by: North Korea Tourism and Torture Department at June 19, 2017 05:49 PM (HgMAr)
Yeah they do.
https://tinyurl.com/y6w5lmsd
Posted by: golfman at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (dE
Ah, it's all part of the continuum, Alex, or the Great Interconnectednes of Data. Or something.
Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (J8wPE)
http://tinyurl.com/lkzxjv2
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 05:50 PM (mpXpK)
.......
Wow.
They even mention "tampering with political slogans and signs or pictures of political leaders".
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (aMlLZ)
and if we don't stand up for that, for America, than what kind of
Country are we?
==
I can never say it right.
This is what I mean.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (Uxokn)
One way trip. Solves the Obama problem. Once and for all.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (v5iqM)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (xiOrX)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (6Ll1u)
They would. If they had sticks.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (mbhDw)
At least they got him home and know what happened.
The very very very coldest of comforts but that's all that I can find positive in this.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (O2RFr)
I did it in '85. A day trip, which included the Pergamon Museum.
Lots of people did it, and it seemed not unsafe, because the East Germans wanted the hard currency they charged.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (+7/1f)
Definitely DON'T go to North Korea with a few Marine Divisions
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (rF0hx)
+++
LOL.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (wI4ew)
and if we don't stand up for that, for America, than what kind of Country are we?
You obviously forgot about the high horses and the Crusades.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:51 PM (0wem/)
Russian roulette, except with one empty chamber.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June
heh. well, hell, there are places in the U.S. I won't go, in my own city, because they are dangerous. Why the hell would I go to another country that is dangerous? Mexico is off the YankeeFifth approved travel list because of the crime and government who would think going to North Korea or Iran would be wise?
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (0wem/)
Posted by: Mega at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: tu3031
________
That's just scare-mongering. East Germany had free health care and free education!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (j+dfT)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (rF0hx)
*big eyes*
*big watery eyes*
Wait. Wait just one second. This is just an attempt at getting more pictures of The Rack isn't it?
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (dEQP3)
Definitely DON'T go to North Korea with a few Marine Divisions
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (SjImc)
Yup. Take the whole damn Corps!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (mbhDw)
That I think is something we can agree on...
*raises palm*
Aye.
The motion is carried.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (dEQP3)
For now, call me an honorary Missourian and SHOW ME!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM (mbhDw)
At least they got him home and know what happened.
The very very very coldest of comforts but that's all that I can find positive in this.
Posted by: alexthechick
===
Thank you.
I should probably step back.
I can't be impartial.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM (OLhLn)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (dEQP3)
We are unworthy.
Posted by: kraken at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM (J8wPE)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 05:55 PM (rF0hx)
*big eyes*
*big watery eyes*
Wait. Wait just one second. This is just an attempt at getting more pictures of The Rack isn't it?
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (dEQP3)
Regardless of the truth, can the answer be yes?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM (xJa6I)
And I see the comment right above where I'm typing and I have to say that East Germans and North Koreans are hardly comparable, at least in their treatment of Americans and other "adversaries".
I feel bad for this man and his parents, but he was very, very foolish and I hope whoever sponsored this trip has learned their lesson.
Posted by: jocon307 at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (4WPdG)
Well, then, there ain't no more stalemate - I'm gonna end it by killin' that fat bastard!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June
well, we do not know precisely what happened. we also do not know how far up the food chain the abuse order, if there was one, came from. entirely possible he had a really bad reaction to the standard abuse of the nork system. none of this excuses what happened, but we should know what happened before we go off.
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (0wem/)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (mbhDw)
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Three divisions it is then.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (OmhcY)
Never happen, I know.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 05:53 PM (a0IVu)
Some Airports have a place where you can get your luggage wrapped in plastic wrap so you know if someone has opened your luggage, to prevent the workers from planting drugs in your luggage.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (dKiJG)
I can't be impartial.
Posted by: Mortimer
Don't know your story and that's alright... Hugs anyway...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (O2RFr)
http://tinyurl.com/lkzxjv2
That makes things pretty clear, I'd say.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (0wem/)
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Remember the Maine!
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (OmhcY)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (J+eG2)
Definitely DON'T go to North Korea with a few Marine Divisions
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (SjImc)
Yup. Take the whole damn Corps!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:57 PM (mbhDw)
LOL... I saw Korea just like my Daddy did... from the deck of a US Navy Destroyer...
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Love Gun at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (no0Da)
Evidentlythe poor kid saw the advertising for the NK trip when he was traveling in China.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at June 19, 2017 06:01 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2017 06:01 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Sushi and Malaria at June 19, 2017 06:01 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (0wem/)
I'll admit I'm not the smartest guy. I'm a simple guy. He went in healthy and came out dead...I know enough..And I say that mostly tongue in cheek..mostly
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:01 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: concrete girl at June 19, 2017 06:01 PM (0lRFY)
---------
Let us not forget the Marine he let languish in a Tijuana jail.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 06:02 PM (nILVB)
About the scariest places I went to were Moscow about 6 months after we defeated the Soviets and Istanbul only a few weeks after the Mavi Marmara incident. And we made the dumbass mistake of walking around the old Jewish quarter on our own and, I can assure you, it is Jewish no more. That could have not ended well and I am glad we got our asses out of there in one piece.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:02 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 06:02 PM (PY9jH)
Definitely DON'T go to North Korea with a few Marine Divisions Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 05:56 PM (SjImc)
The Marines only have three
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at June 19, 2017 06:02 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 19, 2017 06:02 PM (aZq03)
For now, call me an honorary Missourian and SHOW ME!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM (mbhDw)
If you did not bookmark the Victory Tits, that problem is yours and yours alone.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (dEQP3)
Would it really do any good to kill the
fat bastard? THEY HAVE Had a steady stream of fat bastards in charge for as long as i have been alive.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Ilikeracks at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (qES5k)
We don't even know that, mon frere.
Posted by: Rene Descartes at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (Mouru)
The people who respond to this young man's death by pointing to his supposed culpability must not have lived through their twenties in the same way I did.
I did a lot of impulsive, dumb things in my twenties.
My response to hearing of Otto Warmbier's murder is simply "there, but for the grace of God, go I."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (rznWS)
Raise your hand if you have never done anything stupid.
I'd love to see the venn diagram on this one.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (sf2BM)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM
Gonna be kinda hard to be taken seriously as a Missourian with that New Yawk accent the 'ettes say you have.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (xAvrH)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at June 19, 2017 06:02 PM (lKyWE)
Patience my son
Posted by: GEN Mattis at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (SjImc)
Michelle?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:00 PM (oVJmc)
The father went off on SCOAMF when the deceased was returned. I can't even imagine what his reaction is right about now.
Good thing the media will utterly bury the story deeper than the kid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (mbhDw)
I've never been anywhere that scary. I'm a big baby, I won't go to Mexico.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (Ri/rl)
WE might not know.
But between MRIs, CAT scans, and now an autopsy, somebody is gonna know every little f'n detail of what they did to this kid.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 06:04 PM (J+eG2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM
Gonna be kinda hard to be taken seriously as a Missourian with that New Yawk accent the 'ettes say you have.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (DMUuz)
Half-Hungarian, half-Chicago. But I sound like Alan Jenkins when I get my Irish up.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:04 PM (mbhDw)
I've never been anywhere that scary. I'm a big baby, I won't go to Mexico.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June
that makes you smart. no one should go to meixco, except the mexicans living here.
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 06:04 PM (0wem/)
Posted by: Eromero at June 19, 2017 05:36 PM (zLDYs)
Mebbe so. I think they lobotomized the poor kid. They're big on "experimenting" on prisoners, and I honestly don't think Lil Kim thought he'd ever have to turn him over.
Posted by: antisocialist at June 19, 2017 06:05 PM (W2wn0)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 06:04 PM (J+eG2)
They turned his brain to mush...Hey this ain't rocket science
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:05 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Papa Dada at June 19, 2017 06:05 PM (no0Da)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 19, 2017 06:05 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at June 19, 2017 05:58 PM (OLhLn)
We only need one missile, it just needs to big a big one. Anybody know where we can borrow a Centari mass driver?
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (aMlLZ)
Reality, like AtC, is a cruel mistress.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (mbhDw)
The GOPe writ large?
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (rznWS)
fat bastard? THEY HAVE Had a steady stream of fat bastards in charge for as long as i have been alive.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 06:03 PM (mpXpK)
I was thinking the same thing. It's not like there's any good option for what happens next other than China saying hey thanks for getting our new province annexed for us.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (dEQP3)
Swedish Embassy
Munsu-Dong District
Pyongyang
Warning: They may be out of bikinis.
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 19, 2017 06:05 PM (5VlCp)
"Ach, soooo!"
- - J.J. Sefton
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (6Ll1u)
Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (6FqZa)
Universities do that on a daily basis, and the kids don't die from it.
Had to be something else.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 06:07 PM (J+eG2)
Posted by: sinalco at June 19, 2017 06:07 PM (yODqO)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 19, 2017 06:07 PM (WmgTn)
luggage wrapped in plastic wrap so you know if someone has opened your
luggage, to prevent the workers from planting drugs in your luggage.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (dKiJG)
Yes, most Asian airports have that service - highly recommended.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (4iM+r)
Universities do that on a daily basis, and the kids don't die from it.
Had to be something else.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 06:07 PM (J+eG2)
OK, I'll give ya that one! LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:06 PM (6Ll1u)
I don't believe them.
And if they were, good.
Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (z/Ubi)
luggage wrapped in plastic wrap so you know if someone has opened your
luggage, to prevent the workers from planting drugs in your luggage.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 19, 2017 05:59 PM (dKiJG)
Yes, most Asian airports have that service - highly recommended.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (a0IVu)
After they put the drugs inside, no doubt.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (mbhDw)
Universities do that on a daily basis, and the kids don't die from it.
Had to be something else.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 06:07 PM (J+eG2)
They were experimenting.... they turned his brain into Kim chi...
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: ynakeefifth at June 19, 2017 06:04 PM (0wem/)
I have been a few times and really enjoyed it. But it was 20+ years ago.
Today? Not a fvcking chance would I risk Mexico.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (rF0hx)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (qES5k)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 19, 2017 06:07 PM (WmgTn)
You, sir, are a giant sack of horse shit. Please, for the love of all that is good and right, go to North Korea and grab a poster.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (mbhDw)
Thanks for the warning, Vlad. Guess we'll have to check out Korea...
Posted by: the greys at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (mbhDw)
You take your luggage up to the area and they wrap it in front of you and seal it. And then you check it in. Not fool proof of course but its at least something.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:10 PM (a0IVu)
You, sir, are a giant sack of horse shit. Please, for the love of all that is good and right, go to North Korea and grab a poster.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (mbhDw)
You know that's an over the top sockpuppet right?
Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2017 06:10 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:08 PM (mbhDw)
It guarantees freshness.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (rF0hx)
We went to Cancun last summer - had a good time but after seeing what happened there recently, I think we were idiots for taking that risk.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (a0IVu)
You know that's an over the top sockpuppet right?
Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2017 06:10 PM (z/Ubi)
Yes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (mbhDw)
Short of war, how do we respond to this? I doubt there are any DPRK ambassadors to kick out of the country, are there? No one buys shit from that garbage heap country, so sanctions are out, and we apparently can't assassinate maniac foreign leaders anymore.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (HL3BI)
I'm glad they were with him for his final few days.
RIP Otto. God rest your soul.
Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (sBOL1)
251 Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:10 PM (a0IVu)
I was being sarcastical.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (mbhDw)
heh. It all good, J.J.; I'm just slow on the uptake.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (a0IVu)
I doubt that in this case. Hostages have value - especially American hostages.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (ppaKI)
- Lord Palmerston, Don Pacifico debate, 1850
Dead gone days.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (S1iHi)
Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA, BFD at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (HgMAr)
Today? Not a fvcking chance would I risk Mexico.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (rF0hx)
A guy that works for us, his MIL lives in Cancun. He and his wife were going to stay with the MIL for a vacation. They got there and came right back. Went somewhere else for a vacation. Told me everything I need to know. It's not safe.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: navybrat at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (OmhcY)
/my travels in my twenties were on behalf of the USN.
Posted by: USNtakim at June 19, 2017 06:13 PM (zZWkn)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 06:09 PM (rF0hx)
We went to Cancun last summer - had a good time but after seeing what happened there recently, I think we were idiots for taking that risk.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:11 PM (a0IVu)
I know someone who retired to Todos Santos about 15 years ago. Gated community with a lot of ex-pats, but I imagine many don't dare go outside, unless in a very large group. Then again, Baja is not the same as say Chiapas or DF. Or is it?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:13 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA, BFD at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (HgMAr)
Well flies got a nose for shit, so....
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:14 PM (aMlLZ)
I doubt that in this case. Hostages have value - especially American hostages.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (ppaKI)
It's possible the kid may have been beaten into a coma by other prisoners
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at June 19, 2017 06:14 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Strobe at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (Ri/rl)
Boy BFF and his wife were talking about going to Cancun and I told him to go look at how the big resorts have more or less private paramilitary groups guarding them. He scoffed and then did some checking.
Yeah, they decided not to go.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: navybrat at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (w7KSn)
If it's permanent brain damage or death, you could go to East St. Louis, Compton, Oakland or Chicago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Cooldawg at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (HOye3)
It's actually a little better; I was working in El Paso for 3 months in 2009 when Juarez was a total slaughterhouse. I could see houses set on fire by cartel psychos from my hotel. Now that the Zetas have been diminished drastically, the violence is now only horrible instead of say, medieval, which is what it was.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (HL3BI)
Posted by: E.T. at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (iaOfs)
Posted by: Eromero at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (zLDYs)
The story is always the same - THIS TIME they'll get it right, and THIS TIME they'll kill the right people. The Norks' approach to communism is flawed, don't you know.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:16 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 06:12 PM (OmhcY)
He must have had nice feet . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:16 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: E.T. at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (iaOfs)
We could make one of them other little norks rich beyond his wildest dreams
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:16 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (Xuv2G)
Michael Baden hasn't cut him open yet. /s
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:16 PM (mbhDw)
109 degrees outside... and still have an hour or so to get hotter today...
Central Valley Calif.....
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (NgKpN)
"Dumbass. Why get killed over something you can buy on the internet?"
RIP
Posted by: Sharkman at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (rNZuH)
A few years ago a friend was kidnapped from the hotel zone in Cancun and his wife had to pay a ransom to get him back.
I will not go to Mexico.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: JuJuBee at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (dargh)
Posted by: Alf767 at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (a1lZO)
Posted by: E.T. at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (iaOfs)
The Chinese have had just about enough of his shit, and they have a lot more influence in North Korea than we do. That's the big reason for all the creative executions and the nuclear tests.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (Xuv2G)
109 degrees outside... and still have an hour or so to get hotter today...
Central Valley Calif.....
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (NgKpN)
Crazy thunder and lighting here in Hymietowm.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:13 PM (mbhDw)
.......
Used to drive into Baja twice a year for extended trips, quit doing it three years ago. Found myself making a beeline for the desert trying to stay out of towns.
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Cooldawg at June 19, 2017 06:15 PM (HOye3)
Send his silly ass over there with a time delayed grenade shoved in his ass.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:18 PM (aMlLZ)
O/T
109 degrees outside... and still have an hour or so to get hotter today...
Central Valley Calif.....
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (NgKpN)
Holy hell! I'm closer to the coast and its mid-80's here. Plenty hot.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:18 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 06:18 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:18 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: JuJuBee at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (dargh)
Well the Soviet Union of 1977 was not my cup of tea and i would not have gone there, but the ruskies are semi sane...the same can not be said for the North Koreans
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:18 PM (SjImc)
109 degrees outside... and still have an hour or so to get hotter today...
Central Valley Calif.....
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (NgKpN)
It's 97 here. I don't have A/C and it's really hot. My house isn't cooling off at night because it's warm at night too.
I watched the baby owls take a shower yesterday morning in the sprinklers. It was funny.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:19 PM (Ri/rl)
I would LOVE to see a SEAL team snatch the boat back.
That and repatriate Joanne Chesimard from Cuba, which would theoretically be much easier.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:19 PM (mbhDw)
Here is NYT on the Maldives.
http://tinyurl.com/ycof2jnw
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 19, 2017 06:19 PM (6FqZa)
He didn't go with a group. Him and another guy went in just to "look around".
He said East Berlin in the '70s wasn't a place to just go in for a look around.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 19, 2017 06:20 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:20 PM (oVJmc)
http://tinyurl.com/ycof2jnw
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 19, 2017 06:19 PM (6FqZa)
Those rightfully belong to Argentina, you know.
Posted by: Ex-Prez'nit ShitMidas at June 19, 2017 06:20 PM (Mouru)
News wants so much to make it a hate crime. They keep reporting that she is Muslim and near an mosque and bothers and sisters are staying brave....
Girl was 17 and killed by a 22 yo man - who is Hispanic. Beat her to death with a baseball bat and dumped her body into a pond. She was in a group of other Muslim girls.
I don't know what to make of it all. My guess is that there was a relationship and it was a crime of passion.
Oh, and the girl attended the same high school my son does.
Posted by: blaster at June 19, 2017 06:20 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: Leninism at June 19, 2017 06:21 PM (qDhbG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:21 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:20 PM (oVJmc)
It's a hard decision but I hope the parents allow an autopsy to be performed.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:21 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:13 PM (mbhDw)
.......
Used to drive into Baja twice a year for extended trips, quit doing it three years ago. Found myself making a beeline for the desert trying to stay out of towns.
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 06:17 PM (HgMAr)
I just remembered, wifey and me driving from Johannesburg and trying to get to the border crossing in Swaziland before sundown, when they closed for the night. You talk about crime, kidnappings and murder, South Africa is dangerous. Mostly because of desperate people fleeing the paradise of Zimbabwe.
That was one nerve-racking drive; crossed the border with about a half hour to spare.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:21 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Larry at June 19, 2017 06:21 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (6Ll1u)
Yes, there are risks. Same as going to Antarctica or climbing mountains.
There are not many totalitarian places left to visit and North Korea is the pinnacle of this.
Posted by: Harun at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (UBBWX)
Give her the Adolf Eichmann treatment
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:21 PM (SjImc)
THAT would be a coup. Especially in light of Steve Scalise. And the leftists would go apeshit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (6Ll1u)
I drove back from Fort Drum in constant thunder storms...but hey my car got clean
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (Mouru)
Berkeley is a lot closer.
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Larry at June 19, 2017 06:21 PM (Mouru)
But Paul is still my favorite Beatle....
Posted by: Don Q. at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: John Marston at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:22 PM (6Ll1u)
I'm jealous. It's been over 90 for a week here.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (Ri/rl)
He didn't go with a group. Him and another guy went in just to "look around".
He said East Berlin in the '70s wasn't a place to just go in for a look around.
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We had a junior high teacher back in the late 80s who always told the story of her being marched at gunpoint in East Germany. We always thought she was full of shit.
Maybe she wasn't.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: Love Gun at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (no0Da)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Dogstar at June 19, 2017 06:24 PM (aHrna)
Posted by: Strobe at June 19, 2017 06:24 PM (gbWkA)
Unfortunately, that means punishing its proxy sponsor, China. Short of war with NK, there will be no action on our part with them. If things escalate, the nutjob regime will go ballistic. Maybe it's time for that, the inevitability it is if we are to keep them from full nuclearization, but China is the currently viable target to avoid a hot war. This is almost all China's fault.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 19, 2017 06:24 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 06:24 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (IqV8l)
Meh. Beria scratch.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:24 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Insomniac
Those are only rumors about Trump from WaPo. He is really not all that bad. Please stick around.
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2017 06:25 PM (ABjxW)
Cancun and I told him to go look at how the big resorts have more or
less private paramilitary groups guarding them. He scoffed and then did
some checking.
Yeah, they decided not to go.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now
Supposedly the resorts pay off the cartels too. Only a matter of time until they figure ransom will pay better.
Posted by: Aviator at June 19, 2017 06:25 PM (/Nite)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:25 PM (aMlLZ)
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at June 19, 2017 06:25 PM (A6uIZ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:25 PM (oVJmc)
In. the. shade.
Posted by: Love Gun
****
Add foil and an egg or two.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 19, 2017 06:25 PM (m3iiU)
119.5 on my back patio in Phoenix right now.
In. the. shade.
Posted by: Love Gun at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (no0Da)
Okay, that's really hot. I don't know how anyone can live in that.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:26 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:25 PM (aMlLZ)
So you've been to Camden NJ?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:26 PM (SjImc)
My husband and I have visited them a few times, and I was there a few years ago. She and her husband have since abandoned the house and live in NV now. What a pity.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 06:27 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Strobe at June 19, 2017 06:27 PM (gbWkA)
119.5 on my back patio in Phoenix right now.
In. the. shade.
Posted by: Love Gun at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (no0Da)
Speaking of places I refuse to go...
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:27 PM (Xuv2G)
You plagiarized that line right from the article in the New Yorker called "Always stay east of the Hudson"
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2017 06:27 PM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Insomniac at June 19, 2017 06:28 PM (0mRoj)
In. the. shade.
Posted by: Love Gun at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (no0Da)
Okay, that's really hot. I don't know how anyone can live in that.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:26 PM (Ri/rl)
I changed planes in PHX once. Went out to have a cig in the shade. 110F at 10 am.
Nope.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 19, 2017 06:28 PM (Id9+8)
http://tinyurl.com/ycof2jnw
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 19, 2017 06:19 PM (6FqZa)
..........
Wait... they're not under water yet?
Posted by: Bill Nye - Climate Sciencey Guy at June 19, 2017 06:28 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: godhelpus at June 19, 2017 06:28 PM (soBvJ)
Posted by: Eugene Morris Jerome at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (tgRox)
Posted by: Mr. Brightside at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (79+/S)
In. the. shade.
Posted by: Love Gun at June 19, 2017 06:23 PM (no0Da)
Okay, that's really hot. I don't know how anyone can live in that.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:26 PM (Ri/rl)
I changed planes in PHX once. Went out to have a cig in the shade. 110F at 10 am.
Nope.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 19, 2017 06:28 PM (Id9+
Do you have to light the cig when it's that hot, or do you just wave it around a bit until it starts burning?
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Strobe at June 19, 2017 06:27 PM (gbWkA)
"Well it's pouring here in Hymietown,
And DeBolhevik's a fucking clown,
But I gotta get a cab uptown,
No one around, I think I will drown . . ."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: bluebell ~ now in glorious Red Sox red! at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (sBOL1)
Idiot middle-income Americans wish to retire and live forever in Mexico. They love the fact they can get a "deal" on a house, and "it's so gorgeous here!"
I kept yelling at the TV, even though I was already hoarse.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: godhelpus at June 19, 2017 06:28 PM (soBvJ)
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Particularly once you go brain dead.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (OmhcY)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (Xuv2G)
Hold it against the sidewalk for a couple of seconds.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Eugene Morris Jerome at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (gbWkA)
He was dressed for it.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (Xuv2G)
I do love the desert in say March and April though. It's perfect then. Never in the summer.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (Ri/rl)
How could it possibly be worth the risk? You want Korea, go to South Korea. Go to Normal, not Crazy/Savage Korea.
It's hard to get that through the heads of the "adventurous," but it could be a matter of life or death.
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THIS.
I'm sorry this young man lost his life.
However, it was the result of a bunch of bad decisions on his part and the part of his parents, who possibly could have stopped this trip.
Posted by: shibumi at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (aT+Bx)
That goddam dog of yours keeps biting people and being a general annoyance. And just when we starting to get along. What are you going to do about it?
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: Abby at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (aMlLZ)
Posted by: Strobe at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (gbWkA)
Li'l Kim isn't the problem. The military wouldn't miss a beat if he 'sploded.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (oVJmc)
Idiot middle-income Americans wish to retire and live forever in Mexico. They love the fact they can get a "deal" on a house, and "it's so gorgeous here!"
I kept yelling at the TV, even though I was already hoarse.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (PY9jH)
Make them watch Sicario on a loop until they get the picture.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:29 PM (Xuv2G)
If you want to wait, waving it around would probably work.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (Id9+8)
Posted by: Orson at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (ibDpL)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (aMlLZ)
Hey how about Aruba?
Posted by: N Halloway at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (SjImc)
http://tinyurl.com/y9rmmh6o
After all in all communist governments people are State property. The left just switched slavery from private to government ownership.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (d3wbb)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW
Certainly could be an anoxic brain injury from drowning or other torture gone bad.
Posted by: Aviator at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (/Nite)
Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (79+/S)
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:16 PM (a0IVu)
Is this an example of that "intersectionality" the lefties keep talking about?
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (sdi6R)
It feels **different** today.
Funny thing is my two dogs seem to love it. They spent extra time out there an hour ago rolling around on their backs in the grass, big smiles and tongues all hanging out.
Nutz they are.
Posted by: Love Gun at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (no0Da)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Robert17 at June 19, 2017 06:33 PM (19WHj)
Posted by: Abby at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (HBU7W)
Ireland was a frigging blast. I would go back in a heartbeat. Killer booze, beautiful women (lots of blonds), and really nice people. You can't throw a rock without hitting some ancient ruin or building. Probably one of the favorite places I ever went to.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:33 PM (aMlLZ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (oVJmc
yeah? Not so sure about that. And, anyway, let one of them step up and volunteer to be next in line. OR we could make them rich beyond their wildest dreams as I said before. Choices have to be made
Posted by: N Halloway at June 19, 2017 06:33 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (aMlLZ)
You're right. We went to Jamaica about 20 years ago, I wanted to go shopping. We had to take a driver and an armed guard from the resort. It was kind of scary.
We go to Hawaii now.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:34 PM (Ri/rl)
Right?
And if you look Korean it's probably life.
Posted by: JEM at June 19, 2017 06:34 PM (TppKb)
People who think it is hot now don't remember the 80s.
Posted by: blaster at June 19, 2017 06:34 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:33 PM (aMlLZ)
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Is that legal?
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 06:34 PM (OmhcY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:34 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:34 PM (SjImc)
Yep. In a nutshell.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (H8S+R)
Caligirl, it works this way most of the time. It's so hot inland that it
just keeps sucking cool air in off the coast. I'm going to really miss
the weather when I leave.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (6Ll1u)
We are making a trip to Austin, in July to check out schools and houses. Figured we might as well check it out in the summer and get a feel for what we are getting into. I'm from the tropics so heat and humidity don't bother me much but it will be *interesting* for the spouse and kid. Heh.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (a0IVu)
Is this an example of that "intersectionality" the lefties keep talking about?
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (sdi6R)
Hollywood/Vine. There's your intersectionality.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (aMlLZ)
Buddy of mine married a gal from Trinidad. Her family home was built like a fortress, and her dad told him to make he brought the daughter back before it was dark.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW
Certainly could be an anoxic brain injury from drowning or other torture gone bad."
Dry, or wet, submarine would do it.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (d3wbb)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (IqV8l)
And to those talking about Americans overseas back in the day, yes post WW 2 a U.S. passport was pretty much carte blanc - we had demonstrated power.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: MikeN at June 19, 2017 06:36 PM (o/eHL)
And to those talking about Americans overseas back in the day, yes post WW 2 a U.S. passport was pretty much carte blanc - we had demonstrated power.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (MINbv)
Traveling while Jewish/Israeli could be lethal.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 06:36 PM (mbhDw)
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Exactly. And wind the wind blows, it feel like a hair dryer.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 06:37 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: N Halloway at June 19, 2017 06:31 PM (SjImc)
.......
I heard about a cool festival on Great Exuma. Sandwiches and everything, made by supermodels.
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 06:37 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 19, 2017 06:37 PM (eK0pE)
Posted by: MikeN at June 19, 2017 06:36 PM (o/eHL)
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Olympic swimmers in Rio? Well now, that is another story.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 06:38 PM (OmhcY)
I'm thinking that as a nation we should arrange for Kim Jong Douche-Nugget to get beat to death.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at June 19, 2017 06:37 PM (eK0pE)
He needs to the Islamic treatment for adultery - stoned to death.
Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 06:38 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:32 PM (6Ll1u)
The funny thing is I'm not that far inland. Maybe 15-20 miles as the crow flies. I'm just in a hot valley.
My kingdom for air conditioning.
I would miss the weather too.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:38 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: blaster at June 19, 2017 06:34 PM (jHrzU)
I was in Charleston that summer. Old guy at work knew I was from NC. He said "I bet it don't get that hot back home." 103 in Charleston that day. 108 in Fayetteville.
Posted by: golfman at June 19, 2017 06:38 PM (48QDY)
Dry, or wet, submarine would do it.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 06:35 PM (d3wbb)
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hyperbaric chamber to give him the bends.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:38 PM (+zEem)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:39 PM (oVJmc)
is he a head banger, or just a DUI?
either one will kill teh narrative, which would explain the silence.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:39 PM (+zEem)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 19, 2017 06:40 PM (6Ll1u)
Unfortunately, that means punishing its proxy sponsor, China. Short of war with NK, there will be no action on our part with them. If things escalate, the nutjob regime will go ballistic. Maybe it's time for that, the inevitability it is if we are to keep them from full nuclearization, but China is the currently viable target to avoid a hot war. This is almost all China's fault.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel
The question is: should we arm the RoK/Japan/Taiwan with missiles (Pershing II type/Jericho IIs/GLCMs) and warheads; or allow them develop their own. The latter process would forestall the proliferation of technology and perhaps give us some operational control.
Posted by: Jean at June 19, 2017 06:41 PM (9TU00)
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same same here...
Damn mountains!
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:41 PM (+zEem)
Posted by: Beverly at June 19, 2017 06:41 PM (zD1VW)
***********
Carrie Fisher's autopsy blood work came back and she was on heroin and cocaine.
Reminder to the older Morons -- Cocaine in particular is a younger person's drug. Slamming your hypertensive blood vessels with an extra 120 beats per minute of the ole ticker is not the smartest thing you can do to yourself. At least with exercise, it's your body calling for the extra blood flow.
*end of public service announcement*
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 19, 2017 06:41 PM (6jaju)
Anybody here disagree?
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 19, 2017 06:41 PM (Quwsn)
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 06:42 PM (d3wbb)
schools and houses. Figured we might as well check it out in the summer
and get a feel for what we are getting into. I'm from the tropics so
heat and humidity don't bother me much but it will be *interesting* for
the spouse and kid. Heh.
Posted by: IC
A comfortable 86 today in CenTex after a front went through, about 100 over the weekend though. I really don't mind the heat. That's what A/C and pools are for. I had a remote starter on my car when I lived up north so I could warm up the car in the winter. Now it's nice to have one here to cool the car down in the summer.
Posted by: Aviator at June 19, 2017 06:42 PM (/Nite)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:42 PM (+zEem)
Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 19, 2017 06:42 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Zombie Carrie Fisher at June 19, 2017 06:42 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:43 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: KWDreaming at June 19, 2017 06:44 PM (lLOfk)
Damn mountains!
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:41 PM (+
I can't swim either, the guys are still prepping my pool house to paint. I'm waiting for them to leave and I'm diving in. I'm really hot.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:44 PM (Ri/rl)
Yeah, noticed that too. Turns out that no one was killed, and that "reports "wound up not verified... as another moron pointed out that PM - no video? No pics? Suuuuure...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 06:44 PM (MINbv)
Figured as much. She looked like shit the last couple of times I saw her being interviewed hh
Posted by: Tuna at June 19, 2017 06:44 PM (jm1YL)
USS Carrie Fisher?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:44 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:44 PM (Ri/rl)
---
you know the rules:
pics or...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:45 PM (+zEem)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:39 PM (oVJm
---------
Ooh, I like the way you think, Mr. Peebles.
Posted by: bluebell ~ FEED ME at June 19, 2017 06:45 PM (sBOL1)
Pretty much every recreational drug is a younger person's drug. If you're still doing drugs after age 30 you're on the glide slope.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:45 PM (Xuv2G)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 19, 2017 06:30 PM (aMlLZ)
You're right. We went to Jamaica about 20 years ago, I wanted to go shopping. We had to take a driver and an armed guard from the resort. It was kind of scary.
We go to Hawaii now.
Posted by: CaliGirl
++++
I feel the same way.
If you want tropical, go Hawaii where its safe and clean.
Might be a bit more money, but its well spent.
The Carribean and Jamaica are nasty, dirty, and sketchy
just my opinion
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 06:45 PM (0kjoo)
Same thing that killed John Belushi.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 06:46 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 06:46 PM (MINbv)
Btw, I didn't know that Tom Davis was dead.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:46 PM (LTHVh)
---
and i'll venture all the "eye witness" accounts reported last night were taqiyya based...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:46 PM (+zEem)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 06:46 PM (MINbv)
http://tinyurl.com/yd4fn6hh
And before A/C was around much too.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 06:42 PM (d3wbb)
Movie theaters used to advertise that they had air conditioning back then. For most people, it was the only place they could go that had it.
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2017 06:46 PM (sdi6R)
Figured as much. She looked like shit the last couple of times I saw her being interviewed hh
Posted by: Tuna
++++
I love that she played the whole "female" card because people criticized her looks and speech from the star wars reboot
It was clear she had been a junkie, somehow Harrison Ford didn't sound like a retard when he read his lines
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 06:47 PM (0kjoo)
Posted by: wth at June 19, 2017 06:47 PM (HgMAr)
Keith Richards laughed, or mumbled, or something.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:47 PM (LTHVh)
Yep.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 06:47 PM (MINbv)
I'm really surprised China hasn't taken this nut out. He's bad for business.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Fred Phelps at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (LV/t7)
Posted by: RioBravo at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (OmhcY)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:45 PM (Xuv2G)
---
even marijuana?
asking for a friend...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (+zEem)
My willowed from last thread.
Finsbury seems reminiscent of Crown Heights with the part of Al Sharpton
to be played by some radical Imam soon. Who/what will play Freddies
Fashion Mart remains to be seen.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (d3wbb)
It was clear she had been a junkie, somehow Harrison Ford didn't sound like a retard when he read his lines
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 06:47 PM (0kjoo)
The funny part of that being Ford is a famous stoner.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (Xuv2G)
Movie theaters used to advertise that they had air conditioning back then. For most people, it was the only place they could go that had it.
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2017 06:46 PM (sdi6R)
+++
And, motels. For your interstate travels.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (wI4ew)
and Supermarkets. I remember the Piggly Wiggly had A/C before the bank did.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: fd at June 19, 2017 06:49 PM (BO/km)
We never went back to Jamaica, yes it was really sketchy. So was Bermuda.
The beaches are beautiful, but I was scared.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:49 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:45 PM (Xuv2G)
---
even marijuana?
asking for a friend...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM (+zEem)
I think you're okay if it's medicinal.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 19, 2017 06:49 PM (Xuv2G)
You don't say!
Posted by: Zombie Natalee Holloway at June 19, 2017 06:50 PM (rznWS)
They are complete idiots.
You can be arrested without cause, you are guilty until proven innocent (not very likely).
Most of the world looks at Americans as walking wallets.
You can vanish altogether and never be heard from again.
It happens all the time.
Posted by: navybrat at June 19, 2017 06:50 PM (w7KSn)
While some of us were in school learning our trade, these Sailors stood the watch.
Yes. even before some of us were born into this world these Sailors stood the watch.
In those years when the storm clouds of war were seen brewing on the horizon of history, these Sailors stood the watch.
Many times they would cast an eye ashore and see their family standing there needing guidance and help,
needing that hand to hold during those hard times but they still stood the watch.
They stood the watch for many years. They stood the watch so that we, our families and our fellow countrymen could sleep soundly in safety, each and every night knowing that these Sailors stood the watch.
Today we are here to say, Shipmates the watch stands relieved. Relieved by those you have trained, guided, and led. Shipmates you stand relieved we have the watch
- Gunners Mate Seaman Dakota Kyle Rigsby, 19, from Palmyra, Virginia
- Yeoman 3rd Class Shingo Alexander Douglass, 25, from San Diego, California
- Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Connecticut
- Gunners Mate 2nd Class Noe Hernandez, 26, from Weslaco, Texas
- Fire Controlman 2nd Class Carlosvictor Ganzon Sibayan, 23, from Chula Vista, California
- Personnel Specialist 1st Class Xavier Alec Martin, 24, from Halethorpe, Maryland
- Fire Controlman 1st Class Gary Leo Rehm Jr., 37, from Elyria, Ohio
Few words can express sorrow for the loss of our USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) shipmates. #FightnFitz #USSFitzgerald #Fairwindsandfollowingseas
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 19, 2017 06:50 PM (SjImc)
I'm really surprised China hasn't taken this nut out. He's bad for business.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 19, 2017 06:48 PM
Nature abhors a vacuum.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2017 06:50 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: fd at June 19, 2017 06:51 PM (BO/km)
"Otto Warmbier has just passed away...It's a brutal regime. But we'll be able to handle it."
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 06:51 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 06:51 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: fd at June 19, 2017 06:51 PM (BO/km)
And before A/C was around much too.
Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 06:42 PM (d3wbb)
That's why movie theaters were such a popular place to spend an afternoon in the 1930's.In many towns it was the only place with A/C
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at June 19, 2017 06:51 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Zombie Lord Mountbatten at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (rznWS)
That sucked.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (CxLJQ)
My utterly amateurish take would opt for enabling, or rather permitting, Japan to go to arms. South Korea and North Korea are too familiar, historically, to trust a complete war without total US investment. Taiwan would be too provocative with China though it's the one with the most acute and direct check on the ChiComs. Freeing Japan is the best of bad options. I'm certain they could gear up in no time which, as you note, could be both good and bad. Proliferation where they have total control would free us up (good), but there's always future considerations of them distributing or abusing the technology as well (bad).
Ultimately, I guess, I'd try to use Japan as our catspaw right now and surreptitiously try to empower Taiwan.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (H8S+R)
by those you have trained, guided, and led. Shipmates you stand
relieved we have the watch
- Gunners Mate Seaman Dakota Kyle Rigsby, 19, from Palmyra, Virginia
- Yeoman 3rd Class Shingo Alexander Douglass, 25, from San Diego, California
- Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Connecticut
- Gunners Mate 2nd Class Noe Hernandez, 26, from Weslaco, Texas
- Fire Controlman 2nd Class Carlosvictor Ganzon Sibayan, 23, from Chula Vista, California
- Personnel Specialist 1st Class Xavier Alec Martin, 24, from Halethorpe, Maryland
- Fire Controlman 1st Class Gary Leo Rehm Jr., 37, from Elyria, Ohio
Few words can express sorrow for the loss of our USS Fitzgerald (DDG
62) shipmates. #FightnFitz #USSFitzgerald #Fairwindsandfollowingseas
===
Relieve the watch.
Fair winds , shipmates.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: fd at June 19, 2017 06:51 PM (BO/km)
You mean someone that should be forbidden from law from being within 500 feet of a school?
Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (z/Ubi)
True, but China could 'heart attack' this chump and have another Great Leader in place without missing a beat.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (z/Ubi)
--------
Thank you, NGU. It breaks my heart. They were all so young.
Posted by: bluebell ~ FEED ME at June 19, 2017 06:52 PM (sBOL1)
Then I read his family say peace came over him, and they think it was because he knew he was home and his family was there.
Now I more firmly believe he hung on till he could get home. Which I think must have taken a lot of strength.
Posted by: Alana at June 19, 2017 06:53 PM (MoTU+)
Born and raised less that 40 miles from there. Played waw there when I was a reserve. I'll take Camp Shelby in winter over FT Jackson in summer any day of the week.
Posted by: Eromero at June 19, 2017 06:53 PM (zLDYs)
Few words can express sorrow for the loss of our USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) shipmates. #FightnFitz #USSFitzgerald #Fairwindsandfollowingseas
Well said, fwafs RIP shipmates.
Posted by: USNtakim at June 19, 2017 06:53 PM (zZWkn)
believed he hung on till he got home to his family. My grandmother did
that, hanging on till my mother arrived.
Then I read his family say peace came over him, and they think it was because he knew he was home and his family was there.
Now I more firmly believe he hung on till he could get home. Which I think must have taken a lot of strength.
Posted by: Alana
==
Damn these allergies.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 06:54 PM (Uxokn)
Having been in college and visiting East Germany and the Soviet Union, I can absolutely believe it.
Posted by: t-bird at June 19, 2017 06:54 PM (2z74n)
Posted by: Big V at June 19, 2017 06:54 PM (NX0K0)
"Judicial inquiry into the national security realm raises serious separation-of-powers concerns." says Kennedy (the swing vote) in a 5-4 decision.
I say 5-4 to stay the injuctions. Kennedy announces his retirement (with this last opinion) on the last day of the court session next Thursday.
Liberal heads explode.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at June 19, 2017 06:54 PM (6Sjhl)
+++
Thank you for giving them their deserved tribute. Bless you.
Posted by: washrivergal at June 19, 2017 06:54 PM (wI4ew)
That's why movie theaters were such a popular place to spend an afternoon in the 1930's.In many towns it was the only place with A/C
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at June 19, 2017 06:51 PM (lKyWE)
My dad was a teenager in the 30s, and that's pretty much what he said.
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2017 06:55 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 06:55 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 06:55 PM (Uxokn)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:56 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 06:57 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 19, 2017 06:57 PM (Ri/rl)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: Alana at June 19, 2017 06:58 PM (MoTU+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 19, 2017 06:58 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 19, 2017 06:59 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 19, 2017 06:59 PM (rF0hx)
Posted by: bluebell ~ FEED ME at June 19, 2017 07:00 PM (sBOL1)
Kids.
Dammit. "
Then we have the Carrie Fishers of this world who basically off themselves leaving a young daughter and a mother so bereaved that she dies the next day. Guess who gets the most attention in the MSM?
Posted by: Tuna at June 19, 2017 07:01 PM (jm1YL)
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 19, 2017 06:57 PM (dEQP3)
She called it.
Posted by: golfman at June 19, 2017 07:02 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 07:02 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Fritz at June 19, 2017 07:03 PM (TNQMS)
Sailors. American Fighting Men.
Who Died So That Others Could Be Free.
Don't let me do that again.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 07:07 PM (Uxokn)
My utterly amateurish take would opt for enabling, or rather permitting, Japan to go to arms. South Korea and North Korea are too familiar, historically, to trust a complete war without total US investment. Taiwan would be too provocative with China though it's the one with the most acute and direct check on the ChiComs. Freeing Japan is the best of bad options. I'm certain they could gear up in no time which, as you note, could be both good and bad. Proliferation where they have total control would free us up (good), but there's always future considerations of them distributing or abusing the technology as well (bad).
Ultimately, I guess, I'd try to use Japan as our catspaw right now and surreptitiously try to empower Taiwan.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel
I firmly believe all three are 'four turns of a torque wrench" from being nuclear states. Japan has a robust space launch industry and could easily modify (or already has) several of their designs for delivery systems. RoK and Taiwan are both capable of developing ballistic missiles - but that would take some time. Both cloud be well served by artillery or bombs as well.
Looking at it from their perspective - this belligerency gives them the best excuse to join the nuclear club, and with a growing threat from China - why not. They could of course continue to trust us ...
Posted by: Jean at June 19, 2017 07:07 PM (9TU00)
Posted by: Dr. Sevrin at June 19, 2017 07:07 PM (HgMAr)
"Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead" includes an amusing and very common misspelling. The man's name was Perdicaris, which is Greek and has something to do with quails. 'Pedicaris' is a Latin verb form, 2nd person singular present indicative passive, and means "you [singular] are being buggered".
Posted by: Dr. Weevil at June 19, 2017 07:08 PM (iUcRI)
Also, prayers and eternal thanks for the seven young American sailors who lost their lives serving their country.
On the other hand, my most sincere and heartfelt derision, disdain and disgust for the putrid pustule noted as Mortimer....
Good riddance to that heartless mofo.
Posted by: Itsy Bitchsy at June 19, 2017 07:18 PM (NG5TO)
arrison Ford didn't sound like a retard when he read his lines
Posted by: publix at June 19, 2017 06:47 PM (0kjoo)
There was that whole SNL/Blues Brothers period.
Posted by: Fox2! at June 19, 2017 07:19 PM (brIR5)
How about drones start to mysteriously explode around Nork government and military buildings? We don't know anything about them but if we get Kim dead or alive, we will make sure they stop.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at June 19, 2017 07:26 PM (mYRM6)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 19, 2017 07:30 PM (MZcWR)
Posted by: Weasel at June 19, 2017 07:30 PM (Sfs6o)
"Young Pioneers" in the Communist hellholes are their analogue to the "Hitler Youth." (Or the other way around, since the National Socialists copied the Communists in many ways.)
Posted by: Beverly at June 19, 2017 07:36 PM (zD1VW)
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 19, 2017 07:48 PM (MIwBq)
Posted by: A Lurker at June 19, 2017 08:20 PM (3g9Il)
btw, North Korea practices forced labor chattel slavery on a mass scale. Truly Evil.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 19, 2017 08:50 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Leonero at June 19, 2017 08:58 PM (zSLqp)
1) He went to North Korea.
2) He took the poster. I don't care what the roommate said, there was enough testimony from other people around him at the time - his church people who had asked him to bring one back, for example - to make it pretty clear that he did in fact do it.
3) He somehow never clued in to what "police state" actually means.
4) He begged for mercy. Thugs and bullies love that, and never grant it.
Quite a lot of what happened to him can be laid at the feet of people who taught him to be an idiot and encouraged him to do idiotic things. There's also the portion of the blame that can be assigned to people who ought to go up in a nuclear flash ASAP. But the balance of it rests with one person, Otto Warmbier by name, who as an adult man of 22 years old should have known that he was doing a series of things that were each utterly fucking stupid, and that stacked together made this sort of outcome far more possible.
What happened to him is terrible.
But.
Stupidity kills. Don't be stupid. Don't be Otto Warmbier.
Posted by: Rollory at June 19, 2017 09:45 PM (l8Isy)
That's the only thing he was a victim of?
Not his own arrogance? His privilege? His blind eye to human suffering in North Korea? His inability to recognize evil? His willingness to throw his own life away?
What if an innocent Nork subject had been blamed for the poster theft? They could have been tortured to death, or sent to a prison camp for ten years.
This privileged white guy saunters in, oblivious to the point of arrogance, making a mockery of the tremendous suffering of people born in North Korea, and giving hard American dollars to the Nork regime that can be used to fund criminal operations and terrorism around the world... and people around are throwing a pity party for him.
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at June 19, 2017 10:37 PM (BHpB+)
Kim: OK, You give me Dennis Rodman, and I'll give back Otto Warmbier, in as is condition.
Posted by: The Art Of The Deal at June 20, 2017 06:29 AM (ndGCC)
Especially the 10 foot tall, three inch thick glass doors that line the front.
It's in the 'tourist section', and we've never had any problems.
Posted by: Aunt Ralph at June 20, 2017 06:36 AM (sH2iL)
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