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The Morning Report 6/19/17

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Good morning, kids. Well, the week is mere moments old and promises not to disappoint (/s sarc); late yesterday a man in a van plowed into a group of people outside the notorious Finsbury Park mosque in London. One person is dead (although it's unclear if the victim was struck by the vehicle as he evidently had collapsed from a heart attack) and at least 10 are reported injured. The attacker reportedly said "I want to kill all Muslims" and "I did my bit" as he was led away by the bobbies. And now, I have to be extremely careful in my commentary for reasons that sadly are apparent to all of us. First, there is absolutely ZERO justification for this individual's actions. Violence is to be condemned, and its perpetrators, enablers and cheerleaders shunned in the strongest possible way. Now, the potential land mine; I was going to write that I understand why this incident happened, but even that can be interpreted as an approval. What I suppose is more accurate is to say that what happened was inevitable.

We are all human beings and someone is going to take it upon himself to "retaliate" against threats, perceived or real. If one looks at what has happened to England, virtually all of Europe and what may yet happen here, the only thing that is shocking is that this sort of incident took so long to occur. And yet, despite all we have been through, this is an isolated incident and solely the actions of one person. The inescapable truth is that Islamists and the Left are at war with us. Organized or not, both of those totalitarian ideologies openly and directly inspire and demand our subjugation, surrender or death in their unending quest for absolute power and control.

Unfortunately, the reaction from the Left and organized Islam to last night's incident will be to use this as proof positive that there is a war on the followers of Mohammed and their allies by racists, bigots, haters, nationalists, and the forces of darkness, etc. etc. Sure as night follows day, this will be used as a pretext to not only crack down on free speech with even more odious censorship, but will incite acts of retribution which, in a twisted Orwellian manner, will be covered up and/or excused by the usual suspects in the MFM and elsewhere. And in this country, watch this incident bury the actual Democrat-inspired terrorist attack last week while hit jobs and smears against Steve Scalise, Republicans and others continue. Ironic, in a sickening way, that they openly boast how Scalise had it coming, yet G-d forbid anyone were to use the word "karma" to describe what happened last night in London. Brace yourselves.

Anyway, lots of other things going on so we've got the usual links from around the world, across the nation and up your street. Have a better one and remain blessed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:11 AM




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1 Morning JJ

Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2017 07:01 AM (vZ0KM)

2 First

Posted by: IanDeal at June 19, 2017 07:01 AM (JhHPx)

3 Morning, Peeps.

Posted by: fluffy at June 19, 2017 07:02 AM (jw2Xw)

4 Yes, more muzzie killings in London. This shit will not stop until they deport every one of these assholes including the mayor.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:02 AM (mpXpK)

5 But will Scott Pelley say *these* victims "brought it on themselves"?

Yeah, right.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:03 AM (ul9CR)

6 Morning, Morons.

Happy Monday!

Posted by: ALH at June 19, 2017 07:03 AM (fvQp7)

7 Good morning everyone. Another week in the rat race.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2017 07:03 AM (OlNRF)

8 Now, the potential land mine; "I was going to write that I understand why this incident happened, but even that can be interpreted as an approval."



The people that think understanding equals approval need to get their heads checked. Understanding does NOT have to equate to approval.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2017 07:04 AM (vZ0KM)

9 The same thing is going to eventually happen to liberals here in the US and they and the media will howl 24/7 about right wing terrorists, blah, racists, etc.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:04 AM (0pcwX)

10 If the van driver was indeed a Native Brit ... then that island still has a chance. A slim chance - but a chance all the same.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 19, 2017 07:05 AM (fiGNd)

11 I am wondering if that Japanese cargo ship was at fault in that accident. But we will never know until an admiralty court is held and that could take forever.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:05 AM (mpXpK)

12 I've seen some chatter around the Internet that the cargo ship that rammed the USS Fitzgerald may have done it deliberately. The course plot shows that it made a hard U-turn at speed and went on a straight collision course with the ship.

The rest of the chatter alleges that the crew or watch officer on the cargo ship disabled the transponder and running lights, which would have left the Fitzgerald relying entirely on radar to spot the incoming ship.

Also suspicious is that the ship was crewed by Filipinos, who are normally not suspicious, except that the Philippines is engaged in an existential battle with an ISIS-sponsored rebel group in its southernmost state.

Of course, this is just unverified chatter. Just passing it along, because it's food for thought. This may not have been an accident.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 07:05 AM (J+mig)

13 So whose violent rhetoric and actions caused this attack?

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at June 19, 2017 07:06 AM (onq2p)

14 Super Hornet shoots down a Flanker. Not much of a match up but a win none the less. I'll take it! Bra-VO!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2017 07:06 AM (OlNRF)

15 8 Now, the potential land mine; "I was going to write that I understand why this incident happened, but even that can be interpreted as an approval."



The people that think understanding equals approval need to get their heads checked. Understanding does NOT have to equate to approval.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2017 07:04 AM (vZ0KM)


Of course it doesn't, but I have to write it that way to cover my ass and Ace's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:06 AM (mbhDw)

16 Who won that special election in GA. I have seen no news on it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:06 AM (mpXpK)

17 16 Who won that special election in GA. I have seen no news on it.

It's tomorrow, isn't it?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:07 AM (ul9CR)

18 And in this country, watch this incident bury the actual Democrat-inspired terrorist attack last week while hit jobs and smears against Steve Scalise, Republicans and others continue.


[X] attempt bloodless coup
[X] radicalize base
[X] Oops, blood
[X] blame the victim.
[X] straightforward from here

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 07:07 AM (HTdUD)

19 I like the Frank J. Fleming tweet on this:

"A man was shot in the street! Isn't that horrible?"
"I need to know how many of my political beliefs he shared before I can answer that."

Posted by: m at June 19, 2017 07:07 AM (VgThI)

20 Scores of attacks by Muslims = a ravage of Muslims.



Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 07:08 AM (J+eG2)

21 #HuntingRepublicans = free speech

Try substituting Muslims for the GOP in that hashtag and see how much your speech costs you.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at June 19, 2017 07:08 AM (onq2p)

22
Georgia Special is tomorrow.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:09 AM (mbhDw)

23 Mueller has no probable cause. Mueller should be charged with malicious prosecution. And being ugly.

Posted by: mudd at June 19, 2017 07:09 AM (cfHE9)

24 "So whose violent rhetoric and actions caused this attack? "


Duh!!!

Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 07:09 AM (J+eG2)

25 Chaffetzis a borderline RINO so screw him.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:09 AM (mpXpK)

26 So WTF happened with Sheriff David Clark now not taking a position at DHS? Gotta be a story there. Somebody didn't pass his vetting.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:10 AM (ul9CR)

27 19 I like the Frank J. Fleming tweet on this:

"A man was shot in the street! Isn't that horrible?"
"I need to know how many of my political beliefs he shared before I can answer that."
Posted by: m at June 19, 2017 07:07 AM (VgThI)


I thought the response was going to be:

"Shot in the street. Is it more painful than the butt?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:11 AM (mbhDw)

28 Yes, the RNCe is behind a lot of that Trump hate and RINO Ryan is the main culprit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:11 AM (mpXpK)

29 >>>>I've seen some chatter around the Internet that the cargo ship that
rammed the USS Fitzgerald may have done it deliberately. The course
plot shows that it made a hard U-turn at speed and went on a straight
collision course with the ship.



The rest of the chatter alleges that the crew or watch officer on
the cargo ship disabled the transponder and running lights, which would
have left the Fitzgerald relying entirely on radar to spot the incoming
ship.



Also suspicious is that the ship was crewed by Filipinos, who are
normally not suspicious, except that the Philippines is engaged in an
existential battle with an ISIS-sponsored rebel group in its
southernmost state.



Of course, this is just unverified chatter. Just passing it along,
because it's food for thought. This may not have been an accident.
.
.
.Philippino's crew lots of shipping in that part of the World so that is not unusual.

As far as the rest there was some unexplained last minute maneuvering by the cargo ship but the Fitzgerald could outrun that thing using only one Turbine.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:12 AM (0pcwX)

30 So a politician finally admits that the Palestinians have no interest in peace with Israel. Does this mean we will quit giving them money?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:13 AM (mpXpK)

31 29 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:12 AM (0pcwX)


If it was close enough to the Korean peninsula, I was thinking that that might be a concern.

The whole thing is bizarre and troubling.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:14 AM (mbhDw)

32 So a politician finally admits that the Palestinians
have no interest in peace with Israel. Does this mean we will quit
giving them money?


Posted by: Vic

We will probably give them more.
And midnight basketball

Posted by: Bruce at June 19, 2017 07:14 AM (8ikIW)

33 NYC voters elected DeCommio so they are getting what they deserve.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:14 AM (mpXpK)

34 >>>>So WTF happened with Sheriff David Clark now not taking a position at
DHS? Gotta be a story there. Somebody didn't pass his vetting.
.
.
.He has some sort of Federal Rights Investigation into him because of a death at his County jail a few years ago. I am betting that had something to do with it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (0pcwX)

35 "The rest of the chatter alleges that the crew or watch officer on
the cargo ship disabled the transponder and running lights, which would
have left the Fitzgerald relying entirely on radar to spot the incoming
ship. "

There is rumor on the street that a Romulan cloaking device was accidentally sold at a yard sale in Peruvia.

And the rest is now history.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (J+eG2)

36 30 So a politician finally admits that the Palestinians have no interest in peace with Israel. Does this mean we will quit giving them money?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:13 AM (mpXpK)


He was a Republican, so he doesn't count, h8tr!!! /s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (mbhDw)

37 I've seen some chatter around the Internet that the cargo ship that rammed the USS Fitzgerald may have done it deliberately.

I would find it difficult to accept that a cargo ship of that size could get close enough in the open ocean, let alone maneuver abruptly in a manner to ram a destroyer. Maybe if no one on the bridge of the destroyer were awake or if they deliberately held their course. I gotta throw the BS flag on that one.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (OlNRF)

38 The Democrats are FUBAR. They are attacking DJT just at the time sacrificial lambs and scapegoats are needed. The Democrats are about to become the new Herbert Hoover.

WTF is the logic of this entry from Wikipedia? Hoover intervened bigly and when he got out he poofed into a conservative because he apposed FDR's fascism?

"As president from 1929 to 1933, his ambitious programs were overwhelmed by the Great Depression, which seemed to get worse every year despite the increasingly large-scale interventions he made in the economy. He was defeated in a landslide in 1932 by Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt, and spent the rest of his life as a conservative denouncing big government, liberalism and federal intervention in economic affairs, as Democrats repeatedly used his Depression record to attack conservatism and justify more regulation of the economy."

Posted by: mudd at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (cfHE9)

39 33 NYC voters elected DeCommio so they are getting what they deserve.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:14 AM (mpXpK)


Some of us did not, but point taken.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (mbhDw)

40 I think "understands " is the right word.

I mean one can understand why the shooter did what he did last week while thinking he completely wrong in his response and even that his understanding was incorrect.

If I understand the motives of the shooter correctly he thought the Republicans needed to be stopped at all costs because Trump is a new Hitler and the Repubs, or conservatives in general, are Nazis. While I consider that crazy talk, its not like its an uncommon refrain on the left.

Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (LQ1Q3)

41 As far as the rest there was some unexplained last minute maneuvering by the cargo ship but the Fitzgerald could outrun that thing using only one Turbine.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:12 AM (0pcwX)

The hairpin turn is a known fact. The cargo ship began that maneuver about 25 minutes before the collision. From the time it ended its maneuvering pointed at the Fitzgerald, there was maybe 10 minutes to impact.

Naval vessels do not get up to speed or maneuver quickly. While an Arleigh-Burke is pretty fast, even if the night watch did spot the incoming ship with 2-3 minutes to spare, it may have been too late to get out of the way.

The fact that the ship went undetected by the bridge crew makes the transponder/running lights tampering plausible, though we won't know anything for sure until the investigation's done.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 07:16 AM (J+mig)

42 17
16 Who won that special election in GA. I have seen no news on it.



It's tomorrow, isn't it?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:07 AM (ul9CR)


That's right, it is on the 20th.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:17 AM (mpXpK)

43 40 Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2017 07:15 AM (LQ1Q3)


"Understand" in this context can be shaded in several ways so I felt I wanted to put the qualifier on that to be absolutely clear that I do not condone what happened. And I most certainly do not.

But, that said, I understand how, given the circumstances and recent history of world events how someone could do this. And even that could be interpreted by a Lefty as condoning the attack, since to "understand" it in that regard is to give credence to the motivation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:18 AM (mbhDw)

44 Muslim need to ruminate on what they have said and done to drive this man to these actions. Of course we may never know his motivations.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 19, 2017 07:19 AM (23ZJr)

45
Need coffee. Spilled the cup on mu Lotto forms. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:20 AM (mbhDw)

46 "NYC voters elected DeCommio so they are getting what they deserve."

Dead voters provided the most support.

Bloomberg set the tone. Tiberius to the current Mayor's portrayal of Caligula.

Posted by: mudd at June 19, 2017 07:20 AM (cfHE9)

47 No, there won't be answers for some time on the collision between the destroyer and the cargo ship. A lot of evidence will have to be sifted through first.

Oh look - more leaks from the Mueller investigation. At this rate no one will understand anything and no one will believe anything of the results.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 19, 2017 07:20 AM (hLRSq)

48 "Naval vessels do not get up to speed or maneuver quickly. While an Arleigh-Burke is pretty fas"

Did plenty of emergency breakaways post UNREP.

Those Gas turbine platforms could flat shit and git.

And in heavily traveled waters like that, they should have had all four mains online, and damn near at the point of setting either Nav Detail or restricted maneuvering doctrine.

And every CO I ever served with would have been in the CO's chair for that transit.

Specially at 0230.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 07:20 AM (J+eG2)

49 44 Muslim need to ruminate on what they have said and done to drive this man to these actions. Of course we may never know his motivations.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 19, 2017 07:19 AM (23ZJr)


Remember after 9/11 the navel gazing and wanting to know (by the left) why they hate us and what did we do to make them so angry.

Shoe will NOT be on the other foot. Ever.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:21 AM (mbhDw)

50
My big fear over something like this is, given the times we live in, could be a sort of (dare I say it) "Kristallnacht"-like moment.

G-d forbid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:22 AM (mbhDw)

51 "retaliation" should not be put in quotes since it means what it means.


Posted by: JAS at June 19, 2017 07:24 AM (EX4Wr)

52 Morning, all. I got nothing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 19, 2017 07:24 AM (X6fMO)

53 Terror attacks are just part of life in a major city. The mayor ofLondon said so.

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 07:25 AM (CSgup)

54 "...wanting to know why they hate us and what did we do to make them so angry."

We exist.

Posted by: Case at June 19, 2017 07:25 AM (EnbfO)

55 "We exist."

Two words.

Yet the most theologically accurate response possible.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 07:26 AM (J+eG2)

56 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 19, 2017 07:26 AM (ZQfW9)

57 Need coffee. Spilled the cup on mu Lotto forms. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:20 AM (mbhDw)


This place has a lottery? I have gotta up my cardboard level membership.

Posted by: RickZ at June 19, 2017 07:27 AM (L1/KB)

58 57 Need coffee. Spilled the cup on mu Lotto forms. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:20 AM (mbhDw)

This place has a lottery? I have gotta up my cardboard level membership.
Posted by: RickZ at June 19, 2017 07:27 AM (L1/KB)


Now I have to get nu forms . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:28 AM (mbhDw)

59 Test

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:28 AM (mpXpK)

60 Despite my Eeyore-ism regarding the Mueller investigation, I hope beyond hope that Trump is just giving them enough rope to hang themselves with such a blatant partisan witch hunt.

Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2017 07:28 AM (LQ1Q3)

61 53 Terror attacks are just part of life in a major city. The mayor ofLondon said so.
Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 07:25 AM (CSgup)


THREAD. WINNER.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:29 AM (mbhDw)

62 "...wanting to know why they hate us and what did we do to make them so angry."

We have something they want - a civilization. Tall buildings, restaurants, fine homes, highways, automobiles.

"It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. It is the same spirit that says, "You toil and work and earn bread, and I'll eat it.""

Abraham Lincoln

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 07:29 AM (HTdUD)

63 **checks Ziegfeld site**

Oh, I guess I do - two new pics of chorus girl Doris Lloyd:

http://tinyurl.com/yakkpy3g

http://tinyurl.com/ybq63ex3

Wiki mentions a Hessy Doris Lloyd, but whether it's the same woman, I don't know. The face seems different:

http://tinyurl.com/ya37y79q

I prefer the Ziegfeld shots, myself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 19, 2017 07:30 AM (X6fMO)

64 60 Despite my Eeyore-ism regarding the Mueller investigation, I hope beyond hope that Trump is just giving them enough rope to hang themselves with such a blatant partisan witch hunt.

Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2017 07:28 AM (LQ1Q3)


He's not in the driver's seat. At the mercy of Mueller. And remember; Mueller is there to get a conviction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:30 AM (mbhDw)

65 >>>Thank You, DeBolshevik; Proposed Law Would Force NYPD to Give Heads Up to Terrorists

Surveillance is only ok if it's being used against conservatives.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 19, 2017 07:32 AM (xAvrH)

66 He's not in the driver's seat. At the mercy of Mueller. And remember; Mueller is there to get a conviction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Not a conviction. All he can do is refer findings in matter to House. House would then decide if worthy of impeachment proceedings.

Straightforward from there to Hillary assuming presidency.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 07:32 AM (HTdUD)

67 >>>>The hairpin turn is a known fact. The cargo ship began that maneuver
about 25 minutes before the collision. From the time it ended its
maneuvering pointed at the Fitzgerald, there was maybe 10 minutes to
impact.



Naval vessels do not get up to speed or maneuver quickly. While an
Arleigh-Burke is pretty fast, even if the night watch did spot the
incoming ship with 2-3 minutes to spare, it may have been too late to
get out of the way.



The fact that the ship went undetected by the bridge crew makes the
transponder/running lights tampering plausible, though we won't know
anything for sure until the investigation's done.

.
.
.

Cargo vessels of any size can't execute hairpin turns and the AXC Crystal was loaded up. While it did execute a turn, it took over a mile on each leg to make that turn . DDG's can get up to speed very quickly and in three minutes they could have gotten clear of that cargo ship unless they were dead in the water with no power which I have not seen any reports on.

That ship was spotted and the CPA plotted unless the Radar was down along with the backup which would be explained if they had a causality in Engineering that left them with no power. That's the only thing that makes any sense currently. But all of the reports I have seen says everything was normal on the bridge.



Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:33 AM (0pcwX)

68 After yesterday's wild strawberry jam-making and canning session, my kitchen looks like a bloody crime scene. Red stuff everywhere. The stove, the floor, the breakfast bar, random red-smeared dishtowels...even on the wall? Now how did that happen?

Since the better half is working and I'm off today, guess I better start cleaning up. But first, time for toast and jam!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:33 AM (ul9CR)

69 Thanks J.J

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 07:33 AM (CSgup)

70 nu forms

Needs an umlaut.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:34 AM (ul9CR)

71 69 Thanks J.J
Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 07:33 AM (CSgup)


Where were you when I was putting the graphic together?!




Might save it anyway for future use. It is, by the way, the perfect Tweet retort.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:35 AM (mbhDw)

72 The van drivers motive may never be known.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 19, 2017 07:36 AM (LTHVh)

73 54 "...wanting to know why they hate us and what did we do to make them so angry."

We exist.
Posted by: Case



Bein' born

"Tombstone" is a very quotable movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 19, 2017 07:37 AM (w5hTo)

74 More Noos. Today is Monday, June 19, 2017. On this day in 1934 the Communications Act of 1934 established the United States' Federal Communications Commission (FCC). We already had radio controlled and licensed by the interior department but FDR wanted a new agency that he had better control of so he could regulate radio stations that he didn't like out of existence and that is the first thing he did.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:38 AM (mpXpK)

75 Trump's lawyer says he has no knowledge of being investigated.


http://tinyurl.com/y8xzg975

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:38 AM (mpXpK)

76 London run over= False flag.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 07:39 AM (l4aLi)

77 Israel has revoked 200,000 "goodwill" Ramadan passports of muzzies who can't stand goodwill.


http://tinyurl.com/yavg3xw3

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:40 AM (mpXpK)

78 Nothing like locking the barn door after the horses get out.


The cladding used to insulate Grenfell Tower, widely blamed for spreading the devastating blaze, is banned in Britain


This cladding has always been banned in the US.


http://tinyurl.com/y7u9hj3a

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:40 AM (mpXpK)

79 The land of fruit and nuts has decided to start going easy on child sex offenders. They continue to vote to destroy themselves. That is what you get when you have solid Democrat control with no opposition.


http://tinyurl.com/y7xhazgr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:41 AM (mpXpK)

80 RIP Steven "Flounder" Furst of complications from diabetes. He was 63.


http://tinyurl.com/y95eg748

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:41 AM (mpXpK)

81 And in States controlled by Democrats conservatives are under constant attack. Best strategy is to vote with your feet. Leave them to wallow in their own swill.


http://tinyurl.com/y6uj7reo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:41 AM (mpXpK)

82 SJWs are going after Wheel of Fortune now for Southern Charm Week. If I was the producer for that show I would tell them to kiss my ass.


http://tinyurl.com/y9s7l9h4

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:42 AM (mpXpK)

83 And speaking of idiot SJWs they are now going after the "Folly Beach" boat which has confederate flags painted on the side.


http://tinyurl.com/y86uxlge

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:42 AM (mpXpK)

84 Remember when the Democrats locked Republicans out of the room in which they were writing the Obamacare Bill? Well they are getting a dose of their own medicine now and they do not like it.


http://tinyurl.com/y89y3xnj

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:42 AM (mpXpK)

85 The Senate GOP will be grilling Lorretta Lynch about her illegal actions under Obama. She should be getting grilled by the new DOJ for prosecution.


http://tinyurl.com/y9fv2cdd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:43 AM (mpXpK)

86 Lyingwatha gives a speech on a NY stage and threatens Trump.


http://tinyurl.com/ycloy36s

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:43 AM (mpXpK)

87 JJ, thank you for a really beefy morning thread!

I understand your reticence and agree with your take on this incident in London. What I think bothers me is that we take many attacks from the left (physical and otherwise) and yet we are told by that same faction to just sit and take it on the chin. The natural reaction is to retaliate, certainly, and in fact is a reaction that is excused and indeed celebrated if anyone on the left even *feels* "attacked." Moreover, there is no consistent standard. If someone on the left is criticized, a violent reaction is excused - but if someone on the right is shot at it is again, somehow the fault of conservatives.

I'm listening on the radio this morning about Senate Democrats throwing a fit about a health care bill being crafted behind closed doors...the way the Democrats did back when Obamacare was being crafted. They are complaining about a lack of transparency which, again, is awfully rich all things considered. Another example of the double standard here.

Simply put, I do believe we are in a civil war now, and one of the avenues of attack is to insist that the other side simply refuse to stand up for itself.

This cannot hold. Human nature is what it is, our Founders recognized that and put in place systems to channel that human nature into something positive and productive...and those systems are being dismantled. It's frustrating and cannot lead to anything good.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 19, 2017 07:43 AM (eytER)

88 Asshole NYT writer says we need to deport Americans and bring in more migrants.



Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas, claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate Bret Stephens:


What we should do is let the NYT go bankrupt and forbid foreign agents like Carlos Slim from rescuing it.


http://tinyurl.com/yboxhkbc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:43 AM (mpXpK)

89 Italians this week cheered the electoral defeat of a mayor who signed a deal with George Soros to turn the tiny island of Lampedusa into a gateway to Europe for migrants travelling from Africa.


http://tinyurl.com/y988rl7f

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:44 AM (mpXpK)

90 There should have been two teams on the destroyer tracking that ship ... first the bridge and then the CIC should have been running passive sensor solutions on the target for an hour. And, when collision looked like a possibility - maybe picked up the phone and called the bridge for a WTF are we practicing our ramming technique?

Posted by: Jean at June 19, 2017 07:44 AM (9TU00)

91
Newt is not to thrilled with Mueller.


http://tinyurl.com/yckshekg

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:44 AM (mpXpK)

92 The government has systematically been ignoring the requirements of NEPA which says the government has to evaluate every law that is passed for impact on people's lives.


http://tinyurl.com/y8dubo63

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:44 AM (mpXpK)

93 Obama's FCC was notorious for giving liberal groups preference in their regulations.


http://tinyurl.com/y9fgrot7

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

94 Two Senators have introduced a bill that would eliminate all federal tax subsidies for sports stadiums. They also need to urge local government to quit financing these monstrosities. The local government always says they create economic boom in the areas and that is a crock of shit. What they create is crony corruption.


http://tinyurl.com/y9ht6m39

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

95 And speaking of crony corruption solar companies have got a huge free ride from Obama. I assume Trump is going to kill that if he can ever get his budget through the RNCe. But two of the biggest companies are calling for even more help. There should be zero federal payments or breaks for ANY company.


http://tinyurl.com/yaj3opug

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

96 Ramirez (same as yesterday)


http://tinyurl.com/zerexd5


And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

97 80 RIP Steven "Flounder" Furst of complications from diabetes. He was 63.


http://tinyurl.com/y95eg748
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:41 AM (mpXpK)


That's sad. Seemed by all I've read he led a decent life for someone in that industry.

RIP.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:45 AM (mbhDw)

98 Asshole NYT writer says we need to deport Americans and bring in more migrants.


Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas, claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate Bret Stephens:

What we should do is let the NYT go bankrupt and forbid foreign agents like Carlos Slim from rescuing it.


http://tinyurl.com/yboxhkbc

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:43 AM (mpXpK)



We can start by deporting all liberals

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 19, 2017 07:46 AM (auHtY)

99 88 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:43 AM (mpXpK)


In case anyone is unaware (certainly not this crowd), for the record Bret Stephens is a cunt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:47 AM (mbhDw)

100 Sell Britain

Buy Poland

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at June 19, 2017 07:47 AM (oBuXO)

101 JJ I love ya - but you had better spell Colombia correctly (it's not spelled "Columbia") otherwise Mrs. Redux will give you a Colombian "necktie"!

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 19, 2017 07:47 AM (AfB0h)

102 100 Sell Britain

By the pound

Posted by: Genesis when they had Peter Gabriel and were good at June 19, 2017 07:48 AM (ul9CR)

103 88:Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas, claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate Bret Stephens:


A swell idea!! Lets start with replacing CNN anchor's with those smokin' hot busty Latina babes wearing those tiny mini skirts!

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 19, 2017 07:48 AM (w5hTo)

104 95 And speaking of crony corruption solar companies have got a huge free ride from Obama. I assume Trump is going to kill that if he can ever get his budget through the RNCe. But two of the biggest companies are calling for even more help. There should be zero federal payments or breaks for ANY company.


http://tinyurl.com/yaj3opug
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:45 AM (mpXpK)


Right after he kills the Y2K Consultants . . . who were still getting paid 17 years after Y2K.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:48 AM (mbhDw)

105 RIP Steven "Flounder" Furst of complications from diabetes. He was 63.

It's surprising how many people have died from Babylon 5 already. If you sample some of the concurrent Star Trek shows, B5 has a high mortality rate.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 07:49 AM (oVJmc)

106 101 JJ I love ya - but you had better spell Colombia correctly (it's not spelled "Columbia") otherwise Mrs. Redux will give you a Colombian "necktie"!
Posted by: Publius Redux at June 19, 2017 07:47 AM (AfB0h)

No it's not. It's spelled correctly!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:49 AM (mbhDw)

107 @88. "Asshole NYT writer say we need to deport Americans and bring in more migrates."-Vic

Fine, lets start with deporting him.

Posted by: Case at June 19, 2017 07:50 AM (EnbfO)

108 I just HAD to Wiki that while eating breakfast.

"A Colombian necktie (Spanish: corbata colombiana) is a brutal method of murder wherein the victim's throat would be slashed horizontally, with a knife or other sharp object, and his or her tongue would be pulled out through the open wound."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:50 AM (ul9CR)

109 Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas, claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate Bret Stephens:

I thought working harder, having babies, and creating jobs were Republican things to do ...

Posted by: Jean at June 19, 2017 07:50 AM (9TU00)

110 Politicians you elect turn out to be traitors who invite an invading army into your country to kill you. Violence may be the answer. There is nothing immoral about self defense.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 19, 2017 07:50 AM (xAvrH)

111 FWIW, Brit looks a bit like Jeremy Clarkson.

Too soon?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 07:51 AM (MINbv)

112
Pretty damn astonishing how the attacker's motive was discerned by the LEOs and the press, was it not?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: l will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand at June 19, 2017 07:51 AM (uVmqw)

113 Los Alamos NL can no longer process plutonium that is used to revitalize our nuclear arsenal due to severe safety concerns. The deterioration of the facility and process has been ongoing for 13 years.

Another Dubya/Obama gift that keeps on giving. Thanks guys.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 07:52 AM (l4aLi)

114 G'mornin' Horde !


"61 53 Terror attacks are just part of life in a major city. The mayor of London said so."
And all of Our Intellectual Betters nodded their heads and agreed !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at June 19, 2017 07:52 AM (i81II)

115
So the Chi-Coms have invented a transporter. I assume it will be of the same quality as their drywall and cat food?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:53 AM (mbhDw)

116 112
Pretty damn astonishing how the attacker's motive was discerned by the LEOs and the press, was it not?


And as late as yesterday, I saw some FOX Newsbimbo refer to Hodgkinson "apparently" targeting Republicans.

Apparently.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:53 AM (ul9CR)

117 If I was the producer for that show I would tell them to kiss my ass bless their hearts.

FIFY

Posted by: JAS at June 19, 2017 07:53 AM (EX4Wr)

118 I did a detailed study of the impacts of new regulations on deepwater drilling operations after the Horizon blowout. Besides demanding equipment that does not exist the biggest farce was the government's analysis of the economic impact of the new CFR.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 19, 2017 07:54 AM (aCIQD)

119 This will be used as a pretext to finally enshrine Shari'ah as the Official System of Law in Britain.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 19, 2017 07:54 AM (9TK8E)

120 its almost as if the Marxists want to destroy Americans and Europeans. Why is this not pointed out daily and even hourly?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 19, 2017 07:54 AM (2qHjF)

121
Speaking of unmitigated leftist cunts . . .

CHRIS WALLACE.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:54 AM (mbhDw)

122 I think the situations are different between the UK and US, at least as of right now. In the UK, the government does not seem interested in preventing Islamic attacks. At least in the US we have the head very vocal about preventing and stopping such attacks.

At what point does a government become illegitimate?

Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2017 07:54 AM (LQ1Q3)

123 Terror attacks are just part of life in a major city. The mayor of London said so.

I recall that when the IRA was doing its thing in Ireland and such, prominent pols in England were saying it was an acceptable level of violence.

At least that was how PJ O'Rourke put it.

So must we accept the same thing here? Apparently so.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 19, 2017 07:55 AM (eytER)

124 120 its almost as if the Marxists want to destroy Americans and Europeans. Why is this not pointed out daily and even hourly?

Because there is no real opposition parties?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 07:55 AM (l4aLi)

125
If Bill O'Reilly starts a new network, he should take Hannity and Tucker Carlson with him. Then, goodbye Fox.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:56 AM (mbhDw)

126 >>>>And speaking of crony corruption solar companies have got a huge free
ride from Obama. I assume Trump is going to kill that if he can ever get
his budget through the RNCe. But two of the biggest companies are
calling for even more help. There should be zero federal payments or
breaks for ANY company.
.
.
.They are using these subsidies up in friggin New England to put solar panels on peoples houses. People are being promised big savings on electric which are not panning out but they are locked into 20 year contracts. Also they really don't work well with snow piled on them so they have to install heating elements to melt the snow which usually uses more electricity than they generate.

Solar City got a huge multi billion dollar Federal subsidy to do this. Elon Musk obama's hero owns the Company.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:57 AM (0pcwX)

127 121
Speaking of unmitigated leftist cunts . . .

CHRIS WALLACE.
One of the many reasons I stopped watching FNC.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 07:57 AM (l4aLi)

128 On this day in 1934 the Communications Act of 1934 established the United States' Federal Communications Commission (FCC)"

Indeed. One of the signs that leftism had completely taken over DC by then...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 07:57 AM (MINbv)

129 CHRIS WALLACE.

Managed to be a bigger dick than usual yesterday.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:57 AM (ul9CR)

130 122 I think the situations are different between the UK and US, at least as of right now. In the UK, the government does not seem interested in preventing Islamic attacks. At least in the US we have the head very vocal about preventing and stopping such attacks.

At what point does a government become illegitimate?
Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2017 07:54 AM (LQ1Q3)


The argument can be made that we are well past that point. Where exactly is debatable. Certainly since early 2009 and most definitely early 2013. You could say as early as 1913 and not be off the mark.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:58 AM (mbhDw)

131 95 And speaking of crony corruption solar companies have got a huge free ride from Obama. I assume Trump is going to kill that if he can ever get his budget through the RNCe. But two of the biggest companies are calling for even more help. There should be zero federal payments or breaks for ANY company.

http://tinyurl.com/yaj3opug

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:45 AM (mpXpK)

We should pass a constitutional amendment that locks the corporate tax rate to 80% of the developed world's average. No more of this "highest corporate tax in the world" business, then giving special shelters and carve-outs to cronies of the political class, which give them an unfair competitive advantage.

Once we've set a tax rate that is permanently on the low side of average, eliminate ALL of the deductions. Everyone plays on an even field.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 07:58 AM (J+mig)

132 At what point does a government become illegitimate?"

"When in the course of Human Events..."

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 07:59 AM (MINbv)

133
With Murdoch and Ailes gone, and the Lefty sons running the show, any mask of objectivity such as it was has been dropped.

Fox is done.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:59 AM (mbhDw)

134 Speaking of unmitigated leftist cunts . . .

CHRIS WALLACE.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Did you watch? I did and was shocked.

His mouth kept engaged but not his brain.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:00 AM (HTdUD)

135 #133 Fox is done.

When you're reduced to promoting the likes of Kat Timpf as your up-and-comers, the writing's on the wall.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 08:01 AM (ul9CR)

136 134 Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:00 AM (HTdUD)

It is a testament to Trump's lawyer that he did not get up and just belt that stooge in the mouth. Completely twisted his words. It was a fucking travesty of a sham of two mockeries of a travesty.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:01 AM (mbhDw)

137 ""When in the course of Human Events..."


That's retarded, Sir

Posted by: Rachael Jeantel (Jabba's twin sister) at June 19, 2017 08:01 AM (J+eG2)

138 26 >>>>.

They are using these subsidies up in friggin New England to put solar panels on peoples houses. People are being promised big savings on electric which are not panning out but they are locked into 20 year contracts.

Explained this to MIL in NY. She ignored my advice. They put the panels on the NORTH side of the house over roofing that should have been replaced first.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 08:01 AM (l4aLi)

139 No more of this "highest corporate tax in the world" business, then giving special shelters and carve-outs to cronies of the political class, which give them an unfair competitive advantage

We sold 17 iPhones in Luxembourg, but that accounted for $23 billion in revenue.

Posted by: Apple at June 19, 2017 08:02 AM (jw2Xw)

140
Omelet or soft-boiled? The world wonders . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:02 AM (mbhDw)

141 At what point does a government become illegitimate?

Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2017 07:54 AM (LQ1Q3)

A government's first duty is to provide security for its citizens against foreign invasion and domestic unrest.

A government that is indifferent to invaders and domestic unrest has abdicated its duty, and abandoned legitimacy.

A government that actively helps invaders and foments unrest, to push a political agenda hostile to the citizenry down their throats, has become anathema to its very purpose.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:02 AM (J+mig)

142 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:11 AM (mpXpK)

Couldn't agree more. The GOPeResistance is much more damaging than the Democrat opposition.

With the exception of the violence and the Soros money, the Left is manageable. The GOPe stops the Executive cold. And their arrogance prevents them from believing there could be any significant ramifications.

Waiting for the voting solution takes too long. We need to make believers of them now. Not sure how.

Anybody know the status of the Wray nomination? I don't think McConnell will let him out of his holding cell until after the August vacation. Would love to be proven wrong.

Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 08:02 AM (OU4q6)

143 Is there competition at Fox where Chris Wallace is trying to snatch the Biggest Fuckhead Trophy from Shemp's mincemeat grip?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:03 AM (y7DUB)

144 "Explained this to MIL in NY. She ignored my advice. They put the panels on the NORTH side of the house over roofing that should have been replaced first. "

Under a tree too?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 08:03 AM (J+eG2)

145 >>> They put the panels on the NORTH side of the house

RUFKM?

Posted by: fluffy at June 19, 2017 08:04 AM (jw2Xw)

146 They put the panels on the NORTH side of the house over roofing that should have been replaced first.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 08:01 AM (l4aLi)


D'uh. They'll last longer that way, due to less exposure to the sun.

Posted by: Leftist 'F' Student at June 19, 2017 08:04 AM (HTdUD)

147 144 "Explained this to MIL in NY. She ignored my advice. They put the panels on the NORTH side of the house over roofing that should have been replaced first. "

Under a tree too?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 08:03 AM (J+eG2)


Covered with a tarpaulin to protect from sap and eagle guano.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:04 AM (mbhDw)

148 Couldn't agree more. The GOPeResistance is much more damaging than the Democrat opposition.

Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 08:02 AM (OU4q6)

It goes back to the famous Cicero quote. The enemy within is more dangerous than the enemy without.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:05 AM (J+mig)

149 "A government that actively helps invaders and foments unrest, to push a political agenda hostile to the citizenry down their throats, has become anathema to its very purpose. "

If instead of a faceless, nameless "Government" we assigned those actions to the human face of President Trump, the Left would shout impeachment.

Maybe put a face and a name to these actions.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 08:05 AM (J+eG2)

150 144 "Explained this to MIL in NY. She ignored my advice. They put the panels on the NORTH side of the house over roofing that should have been replaced first. "

Under a tree too?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 08:03 AM (J+eG2)

Trees don't grow between her and the 10 story building next door.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 08:06 AM (l4aLi)

151 Never watch the watch the MSM fake news except when trapped in a waiting room. Any pondering and deep thought from the MSM advising Muslims to contemplate why they are hated and what drove a regular guy to attack pedestrians going about their business?

Posted by: Ripley at June 19, 2017 08:06 AM (MxEKc)

152 100 percent agree that if Carlson and Hannity leave FNC it is over for Fox as having any distinticion between the others.

You'd think the agents for Carlson and Hannity would see the same--What leverage those guys have at this point in time!!!!!

I'd be using that leverage.......

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at June 19, 2017 08:07 AM (oBuXO)

153 Drive-by commenting, so I'm assuming it's likely this has already been said.

We are a nation of laws, we have partnerships with other countries that are nations built on the Rule of Law. What we are facing, is a very basic question about the role of government, and how it's fundamental duty is to protect its citizens.

If/when the social contract has been violated, and there are a collection of individuals, citizens or not, living among the rest, who have no intention of following the rules and laws of society... it is THE main purpose of government to address that, and eradicate the threat.

When government does not do their most basic task, their very REASON for existence, the people will act.

That is, the Rule of Law will be replaced by the Rule (aka chaos) of Man.

So no, I'm not condoning it. I'm explaining it. Any and all of us around here can do the same. Until we're not allowed to, at the point of a gun, from a government that does not function under the Rule of Law.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 19, 2017 08:07 AM (Pz4pT)

154 For the London incident, I wonder if we'll see a tweet from the execrable Joy Reid saying that the people who were targeted were helped by white Christians.

Likely not. For such a "woke" person, she sure is intellectually comatose.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 19, 2017 08:08 AM (PFy0L)

155 If Bill O'Reilly starts a new network, he should take Hannity and Tucker Carlson with him. Then, goodbye Fox.

--

I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly, but would thoroughly welcome a new network. FOX is pretty far into the process of ruining itself. They've (ok, likely the Murdoch spawn) decided to upend a good thing and press out yet another left-leaning cookie-cutter POS. They can't allow FOX to continue letting another point of view to flourish, as has been slowly happening for 20 years. They know it's moved the dial, bigly.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 19, 2017 08:08 AM (mQ0Mc)

156 126 .They are using these subsidies up in friggin New
England to put solar panels on peoples houses. People are being promised
big savings on electric which are not panning out but they are locked
into 20 year contracts. Also they really don't work well with snow piled
on them so they have to install heating elements to melt the snow which
usually uses more electricity than they generate.

Solar City got a huge multi billion dollar Federal subsidy to do this. Elon Musk obama's hero owns the Company.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 07:57 AM (0pcwX)


My little brother told me that the local high school in GA signed a 5 year contract to buy solar power from this company who would lease them solar panels. It cost $500K a year just for the HS and they are loosing millions but can not get out of the contract. And at the end of 5 years they do not even get to keep the panels. I smell a rat there.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 08:09 AM (mpXpK)

157
Immigrants produce more babies,


... at our expense, given their propensity to milk the welfare system for all it's worth...

work harder,

... if they choose to work (see point #1) or have the requisite mental capacity to do so ...

create more jobs,

... they, themselves, do? * blows whistle, throws BS flag * ...

and have more ideas,

... 'splodey, maimy, stabby, murderous, rapey ideas, sure; others, not so much ...

claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate Bret Stephens:

... how many can we sign you up to take into your household, Bret? You sound like a six-packer to me.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: l will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand at June 19, 2017 08:10 AM (uVmqw)

158 155 I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly, but would thoroughly welcome a new network. FOX is pretty far into the process of ruining itself. They've (ok, likely the Murdoch spawn) decided to upend a good thing and press out yet another left-leaning cookie-cutter POS. They can't allow FOX to continue letting another point of view to flourish, as has been slowly happening for 20 years. They know it's moved the dial, bigly.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 19, 2017 08:08 AM (mQ0Mc)


That, and it gets them treated like crap at all the trendy NYC Cocktail Parties. That's what's important to those sniveling bastards.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 19, 2017 08:10 AM (9TK8E)

159 155 If Bill O'Reilly starts a new network, he should take Hannity and Tucker Carlson with him. Then, goodbye Fox.

--

I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly, but would thoroughly welcome a new network. FOX is pretty far into the process of ruining itself. They've (ok, likely the Murdoch spawn) decided to upend a good thing and press out yet another left-leaning cookie-cutter POS. They can't allow FOX to continue letting another point of view to flourish, as has been slowly happening for 20 years. They know it's moved the dial, bigly.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 19, 2017 08:08 AM (mQ0Mc)



A very dear show biz friend of mine once said, "Hollywood would forgive Hitler if he was good box office. Okay, maybe not forgive but certainly forget."

And that's why it's amazing how Murdoch's progeny can just flush a golden goose, such as it is, down the shitter. You may not like conservatives, or minimally hearing opposing viewpoints broadcast with equal time, but keep your mouth shut and listen to the sound of the cash register. Nope; not them.

Stupid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:12 AM (mbhDw)

160 If there's going to be a new RW network, Kurt Schlichter should get a show. He could just sit there and read half-hour versions of his Townhall rants and I'd gladly watch.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 08:12 AM (ul9CR)

161 142 Waiting for the voting solution takes too long. We need to make believers of them now. Not sure how.

Anybody
know the status of the Wray nomination? I don't think McConnell will
let him out of his holding cell until after the August vacation. Would
love to be proven wrong.


Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 08:02 AM (OU4q6)

Too bad we do not have term limits and recall. But the Supremes said that would take a constitutional amendment which is impossible now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 08:13 AM (mpXpK)

162 Posted by: BurtTC at June 19, 2017 08:07 AM (Pz4pT)


Consent of the governed:
In political philosophy, the phrase consent of the governed refers to the idea that a government's legitimacy and moral right to use state power is only justified and legal when consented to by the people or society over which that political power is exercised.

Consent of the governed status check:
[ ] solid
[X] beginning to crumble like a stale cracker

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:13 AM (HTdUD)

163 >>>>They are using these subsidies up in friggin New England to put solar
panels on peoples houses. People are being promised big savings on
electric which are not panning out but they are locked into 20 year
contracts.



Explained this to MIL in NY. She ignored my advice. They put the
panels on the NORTH side of the house over roofing that should have
been replaced first.
.
.
.I have a friend in CT who almost fell for it. We talked it over on the phone a couple of times and he decided they were not being truthful about the savings so he never signed up with them.

To do it correctly you should have a new roof installed before they put the panels on because once they are on the house you can't move them to do any roof repairs and they will be on your roof for 20+ years.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2017 08:13 AM (0pcwX)

164 "They are using these subsidies up in friggin New
England to put solar panels on peoples houses. People are being promised
big savings on electric which are not panning out but they are locked
into 20 year contracts.





Posted by: Under Fir"

Probably Chinese panels. Which using the carbon footprint trading scheme allows China to claim it is reducing its greenhouse emissions.

I wish that was just a joke. I saw number of years ago where some European country, I think Denmark y was sending tens of thousand of solar cookers (which are complete pieces of garbage and can barely warm water) to third world countries and using this to meet their emission reductions. Solar cooking were probably turned into some device for watering the animals or sold for scrap.

Posted by: Ripley at June 19, 2017 08:13 AM (MxEKc)

165 They are using these subsidies up in friggin New
England to put solar panels on peoples houses. People are being promised
big savings on electric which are not panning out but they are locked
into 20 year contracts. Also they really don't work well with snow piled
on them so they have to install heating elements to melt the snow which
usually uses more electricity than they generate.


There is a push in NoVA to go solar, from the county governments to yeah the schools.

I had my oldest come home one day and start banging that drum, about how we "need" to put up solar panels.

I walked him through the costs, the power generated by them, the power we use, and showed him that at least in our case it would cost exponentially more and be much less efficient than existing power. He came away saying "yeah, that sounds dumb to do then."

It's easy to agitate for solar power when the taxpayers are footing the bill.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 19, 2017 08:13 AM (PFy0L)

166
Petition to Give Sefton His Show Biz Chance:

Call O'Relly!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:13 AM (mbhDw)

167 Now, the potential land mine; "I was going to write that I understand why this incident happened, but even that can be interpreted as an approval."

You mean like when Obama did it? Yeah, it is approval.

Posted by: t-bird at June 19, 2017 08:14 AM (HwVbl)

168 Have to say that with news of the attack last night I felt nothing.
Really didn't think that could happen to me, and I'm not proud of it, but...cue up the "Chorus Line" song 'I Felt Nothing' because that's what happens after one has seen thousands slaughtered by members of that tribe, some of these attackers radicalized at that very mosque.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 19, 2017 08:14 AM (NOIQH)

169 >>>Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: l will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand at June 19, 2017 08:10 AM (uVmqw)

That was pissing me off. Thank you for saving me the mental effort of a fisking like that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 19, 2017 08:15 AM (xAvrH)

170 They put the panels on the NORTH side of the house over roofing that should have been replaced first.

The tax breaks don't care ...

Posted by: Jean at June 19, 2017 08:15 AM (9TU00)

171 the Murdoch kids think they are aligning themselves with the winning side ....

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at June 19, 2017 08:15 AM (i81II)

172 Good morning all! Some days it seems like fresh hell,warmed-over hell, and bat outa hell.

Watched the networks' grilling of Sekulow and was surprised by how nasty they were. I suppose I shouldn't be, but boy howdy that was an ugly display of press partisanship.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 19, 2017 08:15 AM (MIKMs)

173 A reporter helpfully tweeted a letter to Sheriff Clarke that shows, yes, he was tentatively offered a job and what the process would be.

She did not redact his home address.

Twitchy link in nic.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 19, 2017 08:16 AM (wwL6Q)

174 Has use of the word "cunt" been added to the Moron Amy Vanderbilt/Emily Post Guide to Cursing Graciously? I found it an odd and amusing last frontier of word offenses and usually the complaints came from people I wanted most to piss off. So fuck those cunts.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:16 AM (y7DUB)

175 Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and
have more ideas, claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate
Bret Stephens:




Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:43 AM (mpXpK)






Then why are all the places they come from such shit-holes? You would think we would be moving there to improve our lives.

Posted by: Ripley at June 19, 2017 08:16 AM (MxEKc)

176 My local town park replaced all its lighting with solar lighting. Now each and every pole has a ginornous solar panel attached to it. At least they put them on the south side.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 08:16 AM (ul9CR)

177 174 Has use of the word "cunt" been added to the Moron Amy Vanderbilt/Emily Post Guide to Cursing Graciously? I found it an odd and amusing last frontier of word offenses and usually the complaints came from people I wanted most to piss off. So fuck those cunts.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:16 AM (y7DUB)


Actually, it's kind of a no-no around here and I have broken the rule.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:17 AM (mbhDw)

178 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 19, 2017 08:17 AM (u82oZ)

179 To be honest, a second shade roof might be beneficial in Arizona, whether or not it produces any electricity - or maybe just enough to power some fans under it.

Posted by: Jean at June 19, 2017 08:18 AM (9TU00)

180 Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:16 AM (y7DUB)

I believe Ace is on record as not wishing the c-word to be used here.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 08:18 AM (ul9CR)

181 >>I think the situations are different between the UK and US, at least as
of right now. In the UK, the government does not seem interested in
preventing Islamic attacks. At least in the US we have the head very
vocal about preventing and stopping such attacks.



If you're not already familiar with him, read up on Tommy Robinson, or watch this speech. His frustration is palpable, and he's not a hateful guy - just really, really angry at watching his home destroyed w/assistance from police. Brits have been pushed to this point after years of being treated as second class citizens vs. muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A

Posted by: Lizzy at June 19, 2017 08:18 AM (NOIQH)

182 This vehicular attack was "Islamophobia".

So the previous vehicular attack was "EuroCaucasiaphobia"???


The Left is going to have to Pretzel Logic the hell out of this one in order to cram all the actors into their appropriate Grievance Boxes.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 08:19 AM (C52a9)

183
I had solar panels on my last house to warm a swimming pool and gain a couple weeks beginning and end of season. Properly aligned X number of degrees west of south. Proper degrees of tilt for maximum gain.

Within a decade the solar exposure killed them. I learned something from the experience which is why I'd never do it again.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:19 AM (HTdUD)

184 Also they really don't work well with snow piled on them so they have to install heating elements to melt the snow which usually uses more electricity than they generate.

Laughed my butt off this winter with one of my neighbors that put up solar panels in the fall. Cut down a bunch of trees which would have shaded the panels in the summer, then spent all winter shoveling the blasted things. That make me a bad person?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 19, 2017 08:19 AM (kUmUV)

185 Tax breaks for roof-top solar panels do not offset the cost. The last I saw solar panels on new construction (which is cheaper) add $10,000 to the price of a house. since their design lifetime is 10 years they do not ever reach payoff even at 15 cents/kw-hr.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 08:20 AM (mpXpK)

186 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 08:13 AM (mpXpK)

Even recall would be better than the Nothing that we have now.

Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 08:20 AM (OU4q6)

187 O'Reilly has not been my personal cup of tea but as JJ has suggested, anybody with a wallet and cable access--I mean ANY body ---can take O'Reilly and buy off Carlson and Hannity and , voila!, instant viewership.

In fairness to O'Reilly i think the lame brain Murdoch offspring rang his bell hard enough that O'Reilly may go back to working instead of simply bloviating.

BOR is not a bad reporter and actually is pretty good when he puts his shoulder into it so......wallet, cable acess(ANY channel) sign BOR and Carlson and Hannity ...and riches are to be yours.

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at June 19, 2017 08:21 AM (oBuXO)

188 183


I had solar panels on my last house to warm a swimming pool and gain
a couple weeks beginning and end of season. Properly aligned X number
of degrees west of south. Proper degrees of tilt for maximum gain.



Within a decade the solar exposure killed them. I learned something from the experience which is why I'd never do it again.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:19 AM (HTdUD)

Back when I had my pool you used to could get a solar cover to put over the pool in the winter to help heat the water so you could get in it earlier.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 08:22 AM (mpXpK)

189 That, and it gets them treated like crap at all the trendy NYC Cocktail Parties. That's what's important to those sniveling bastards.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 19, 2017 08:10 AM (9TK8E)

The social scene is really the only thing that ever matters to the nobility. Wine, awful food that they pretend is wonderful to show off their allegedly refined tastes, and strutting like a peacock to show how much more wonderful you are than everyone else in the room (let alone the great unwashed outside).

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:22 AM (J+mig)

190 the panels on the NORTH side of the house "

Not uncommon at all. Search up pics of installs - you can't have them (panels) on the back half of the roof of ever house in a cul de sac without stupidi,er, lack of compass skills.

Stupid, yes, but not uncommon.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 08:22 AM (MINbv)

191 @153
Posted by: BurtTC at June 19, 2017 08:07 AM (Pz4pT)


*****


Exactly! Well said young man!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 19, 2017 08:23 AM (wPiJc)

192 Tax breaks for roof-top solar panels do not offset the cost. The last I saw solar panels on new construction (which is cheaper) add $10,000 to the price of a house. since their design lifetime is 10 years they do not ever reach payoff even at 15 cents/kw-hr.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Which is why we need a price for carbon, so that the tax breaks for virtue signaling make sense.

Posted by: Jean at June 19, 2017 08:23 AM (9TU00)

193 Actually, it's kind of a no-no around here and I have broken the rule.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:17 AM (mbhDw)


Ok, I get that and will abide by it. But I'm still amusedly perplexed why it remains a no-no elsewhere and why, particularly by those assholes on the left who tried to be provocative in their tiny warped minds by yelling "fuck" at every opportunity, that hasn't taken its place. It's been around since at least Victorian times although probably not as far back as Chaucer.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:23 AM (y7DUB)

194 Oh, so I went to go see Wonder Woman a couple of days ago.

I dunno - I was bored for about 3/4 of the movie. Too much pontificating. And at times I felt like I was watching Captain America. Maybe it was just me.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 19, 2017 08:24 AM (PFy0L)

195 Bret Stephens' immigration column is not a surprise - he was at the very pro-immigration WSJ for years. Maybe now that he's at the NYT he can let his freak flag fly more proudly on that particular topic.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 19, 2017 08:24 AM (NOIQH)

196
When government does not do their most basic task, their very REASON for existence, the people will act.



That is, the Rule of Law will be replaced by the Rule (aka chaos) of Man.
===

Every bit of THIS ^^.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 08:24 AM (C52a9)

197 @175. "Then why are all the places they come from such shit-holes?"-Ripley

Ha. Good question.

Posted by: Case at June 19, 2017 08:25 AM (EnbfO)

198 The people who tell us #NotAllMuslims will tell you #AllWhiteGuys.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 08:26 AM (oVJmc)

199 no, witchdoktor, the Wonder Woman movie really was that bad.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 19, 2017 08:26 AM (CrPLf)

200 Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas"

I agree! Look at the results - those who undertake the arduous task of immigration and assimilation must be, by definition, industrious. This also ties in with civilization, families, and more, so yes, I do welcome those who wish to immigrate with open arms.

/andyes,Iknowthattwitmeansillegals...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 08:26 AM (MINbv)

201 Who won that special election in GA. I have seen no news on it.
===

In Casa de Mort, Handel is up by 100%.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 08:27 AM (C52a9)

202 I was bored for about 3/4 of the movie"

There was lots of Connie Nelson...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 08:28 AM (MINbv)

203 Morning everyone. Week 4 of my 6 week vacation and I'm already getting depressed at the thought of going back. I know, I know... I'm a lucky bitch to get 6 weeks off stop yer moaning.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 19, 2017 08:28 AM (CNHr1)

204 Champagne corks popping in left-wing newsrooms all over the western world last night. "We finally got some right-wing violence! Make sure everybody knows this guy is now the official representative of all white conservatives everywhere and that all of western civilization stands indicted. Make it so!"

Posted by: Patton Pending at June 19, 2017 08:28 AM (fJuD+)

205 I had solar panels on my last house to warm a swimming pool and gain a couple weeks beginning and end of season. Properly aligned X number of degrees west of south. Proper degrees of tilt for maximum gain.


This week, we are having a new HVAC system installed. It will replace the previous system, which was installed during Jimmy Carter's presidency.

Wanna know how much it costs to put an HVAC system into a largish 100 year old church? Look up the price of a new Chevy Camaro. It's on the north end of that neighborhood.

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 08:28 AM (O7MnT)

206 I believe Ace is on record as not wishing the c-word to be used here.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 08:18 AM (ul9CR)

------

Chris Wallace?

Posted by: josephistan at June 19, 2017 08:29 AM (7HtZB)

207 Nielsen. I'll blame autocucumber...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 08:29 AM (MINbv)

208 Good morning Horde. Stinkin' hot again here in SEPA and I'm just not in the mood for it. Still not enough coffee either. Let's hope this Monday stops being so Monday-ish pretty soon and here's hoping your day is as good as possible under the circumstances.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at June 19, 2017 08:29 AM (RD7QR)

209 The phrase "white man" was repeated 3 times in the article.


Funny, I don't remember "white man" or "white woman" being used to describe the victims of the previous vehicular/knife terrorist attacks.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 08:30 AM (C52a9)

210
Retirement means Monday is just another day to enjoy.

And I DO enjoy Mondays now.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 19, 2017 08:30 AM (S/hVx)

211 I might have been sad if it had been any other masjid than Finsbury Park. THAT mosque, fuck 'em. they are all Taliban.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 19, 2017 08:30 AM (CrPLf)

212 One of our engineering class projects at UCONN (1976) was to design a rooftop solar heating system. We used dirt cheap materials and figured our payback point was 15 years. The other teams used copper tubing and triple pane glass and said their systems would pay for themselves in 10 years. We got the 'A' and they got a 'C'

Posted by: AE at June 19, 2017 08:31 AM (bnSqX)

213 "Who won that special election in GA. I have seen no news on it."

Election is Tuesday. I'll just be glad when it is over.

You won't hear this analysis, especially from Republicans butif Ossoff wins it will not be because of Trump, or conservative women flipping to Dem. It is the demographic change that has been shoved down our throats starting to bear fruit for the Dems.

Posted by: Ripley at June 19, 2017 08:31 AM (MxEKc)

214 209 The phrase "white man" was repeated 3 times in the article.


Funny, I don't remember "white man" or "white woman" being used to describe the victims of the previous vehicular/knife terrorist attacks.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 08:30 AM (C52a9)


Still being investigated for motive and background . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 08:31 AM (mbhDw)

215 It's been around since at least Victorian times although probably not as far back as Chaucer.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:23 AM (y7DUB)


Chaucer used the word in "The Wife of Bath's Tale: "What eyleth yow to grucche thus and grone? Is it for ye wolde haue my queynte allone?"

Oddly - and, at least to me, funnily enough - I first came across the word as a youngster, delving into the Victorian erotic novel A Man With A Maid, where the word is used, along with the diminutive "cunny."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 19, 2017 08:32 AM (X6fMO)

216 I read that OAN is courting BOR. I did see BOR get a long segment on his latest book (Killing something or other) and it seemed friendly.

I think OAN would be a good deal. They are what Fox should be but have the production values of a mid market local newscast. BOR might bring a whole production company.

The other thing OAN needs is actual overseas bureaus.

Posted by: blaster at June 19, 2017 08:32 AM (jHrzU)

217 Immigration is great if the immigrants want to assimilate and have a good work ethic. Is that what Bret Stephens said in a stopped clock way of being correct?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:32 AM (y7DUB)

218 37 CrotchetyOldJarhead

DDG-62: the software running the program in CIC does not rely on transponders. It's a primary radar return paint from the skin of the ship. A container ship lights up very well, with all those steel container boxes. It's like a 100 radio reflecting targets.

Course and speed is automatically computed. A look at the speed vector, or a press of the button, gives CPA and time. The bridge has a repeater for all this info. Crew issues. The same lessons learned again with new people.

The technical term used to be NTDS and Link-11. Today it's all-new and improved Link-16 and the Aegis Combat System.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 19, 2017 08:33 AM (u82oZ)

219 @ 211

I'll show those muslims the same degree of concern they would show me in a similar situation.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 19, 2017 08:33 AM (S/hVx)

220 205 This week, we are having a new HVAC system
installed. It will replace the previous system, which was installed
during Jimmy Carter's presidency.



Wanna know how much it costs to put an HVAC system into a largish
100 year old church? Look up the price of a new Chevy Camaro. It's on
the north end of that neighborhood.

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 08:28 AM (O7MnT)

I replaced my heat pump about 15 years ago. With new larger suction ducting it cost be about $3,000. I would hate to see what it costs now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 08:33 AM (mpXpK)

221 Morning everyone. Week 4 of my 6 week vacation and I'm already getting depressed at the thought of going back.

If I had a six-week vacation, I'd kill myself before going back. Better off to find another job or figure out a way to retire.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 19, 2017 08:33 AM (X6fMO)

222 Mornin' Horde. Got through yesterday without being more than a minor emotional wreck. Fortunately an old friend was back in town so my circle got together for some grillin' and chillin', yay!

And now my followup from last week's appointment. Really hoping glucose is more normal this time...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 19, 2017 08:34 AM (66CWr)

223 Using nominal shocking words is like fishing. Sometimes a sharp jerk will get a bite. Most often it just scares the fish off.

Posted by: Jesus at June 19, 2017 08:34 AM (cfHE9)

224 Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas, claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate Bret Stephens:
==========

Oh, that's fucking rich. Coming from the mouth of someone who has supported the wholesale slaughter of the unborn for decades.

Create more jobs? Really? Where's the fucking data?

Have more ideas? Again, how the fuck does he quantify that in his addled mind?

The son of a bitch can start by deporting himself. And by the way, anytime you want to try to deport me, come on, mother fucker. COME ON.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 08:34 AM (vg8iE)

225 Within a decade the solar exposure killed them.

Solar panels last a lot longer if you bring them inside.

Posted by: t-bird at June 19, 2017 08:34 AM (HwVbl)

226 Is that what Bret Stephens said in a stopped clock way of being correct?"

While I bow to no one in giving folks the chance to do the right thing, the answer is "no".
BS is infamous for his "all immigration is wunnerful" spew. He's worse than Jeb!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 08:35 AM (MINbv)

227 Two nations separated by a common language: in the UK that particular c-word is so common that it almost lacks meaning, basically equivalent to our use of asshole.

Posted by: JEM at June 19, 2017 08:35 AM (TppKb)

228 I want to see talking heads worrying about backlash against white Britons.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 08:36 AM (oVJmc)

229 It is the demographic change that has been shoved down our throats starting to bear fruit for the Dems.


Posted by: Ripley
===

Ossoff's GOTV has been unbelievable.

Packs of roaming Millenials with clipboards wandering the streets all weekend , knocking on doors. Phones ringing off the hook.

I gave the black kid who came to my door a lesson on basic economics and civics and told him that I would not be voting for Ossoff but would be voting for the American in the race.

I have skid marks in my underwear older than Ossoff.



Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 08:36 AM (C52a9)

230 Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 08:34 AM (vg8iE)

Well, he's all for deportation, so let's deport all of the Leftists, and import at-risk Christians and individualists from places where being those things can get you killed.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:36 AM (J+mig)

231 Asshole NYT writer says we need to deport Americans and bring in more migrants.

Deport us to where, exactly? When you deport someone, you return them to their country of origin.

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

232 Late to the party as usual, but....

My big fear over something like this is, given the times we live in, could be a sort of (dare I say it) "Kristallnacht"-like moment.

G-d forbid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2017 07:22 AM (mbhDw)

Why are we seeing these things? Why are people-- especially government stooges-- talking more about vigilantism? What gives rise to a vigilante movement?

The feeling on the part of the populace that the government isn't doing its job to arrest and lock up criminals and evil-doers. When we constantly hear, "The motive may never be known," and "Terrorist attacks are just part of living in a large city," you are going to get people who will say, That's bullshit. I'm taking matters into my own hands.

If they would call this shit terrorism like it is-- from the get-go; if they would arrest the perpetrators who survive; if they would investigate and prosecute the enablers and supporters of this shit, then there would not be any vigilantism. There wouldn't be any need for it.

Posted by: The mass media can all EABOD at June 19, 2017 08:37 AM (1KK6D)

233 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 07:38 AM (mpXpK)

Yeah yeah. Chris Wallace knows different.

Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 08:37 AM (OU4q6)

234 >.I'll show those muslims the same degree of concern they would show me in a similar situation.


According to their script we should all be expressing great concern over white hatred and the inevitable backlash against whites and Christians today.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 19, 2017 08:37 AM (NOIQH)

235 Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas,

Wow! The countries where they live must be doing great!

Posted by: t-bird at June 19, 2017 08:38 AM (HwVbl)

236 MP.. next year. I have one more year so just putting one foot in front of the other and counting down the days. Next year will be 30 years with the company.. perfect time to retire and hopefully by then my business will be doing well enough that we won't feel the financial crunch of losing my income.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 19, 2017 08:38 AM (CNHr1)

237 thus and grone? Is it for ye wolde haue my queynte allone?"

Oddly - and, at least to me, funnily enough - I first came across the word as a youngster, delving into the Victorian erotic novel A Man With A Maid, where the word is used, along with the diminutive "cunny."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


It may have deeper roots than that; I saw a paper once that said it shared roots with "queen" and "coin" all the way back in Proto-Indo-European...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 19, 2017 08:38 AM (66CWr)

238 Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas,

===


And that expanding tax base is what pays the GOPe's salary.

Which is why John McCain calls you a racist.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 19, 2017 08:38 AM (C52a9)

239 That's great BC.. glad you had a good day. Hope todays report is good.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at June 19, 2017 08:39 AM (CNHr1)

240 People want justice. When they don't think they are getting government-sanctioned justice, they get vigilante justice.

For all you simpering idiots on the left, if you don't want backlash, maybe you should stop the forelash.

Posted by: Ted K. at June 19, 2017 08:39 AM (7RqXg)

241 Chaucer used the word in "The Wife of Bath's Tale: "What eyleth yow to grucche thus and grone? Is it for ye wolde haue my queynte allone?"

Oddly - and, at least to me, funnily enough - I first came across the word as a youngster, delving into the Victorian erotic novel A Man With A Maid, where the word is used, along with the diminutive "cunny."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 19, 2017 08:32 AM (X6fMO)


I knew as soon as I typed it that a learned member of the erudite Horde would correct me. And yes, it is a staple of Victorian porn; so I've been told by wastrels with hirsute palms.

Given its long history, don't you find the continued ban odd?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:39 AM (y7DUB)

242 If they would call this shit terrorism like it is-- from the get-go; if they would arrest the perpetrators who survive; if they would investigate and prosecute the enablers and supporters of this shit, then there would not be any vigilantism. There wouldn't be any need for it.
Posted by: The mass media can all EABOD


That was the actual point behind "security theater"; if the people had confidence they were being protected (regardless of whether they were or not), they accepted things and didn't try to handle things themselves. Once it becomes clear the authorities aren't really trying, that perception flips hard.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 19, 2017 08:40 AM (66CWr)

243 Just because I want to kill killed you, doesn't give you the right to call me a terrorist, you deplorable islamophobe, you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 19, 2017 08:40 AM (gwPgz)

244 Immigrants produce more babies

Hand babies are people, too!

Posted by: Wastrel with Hirsute Palms at June 19, 2017 08:41 AM (HwVbl)

245
The cvnt word needs to be saved, like a fine wine, for special occasions.

Otherwise, when Senator Kamala Harris becomes newsworthy/worthy of contempt, you've lost the power of the word to adequately describe her.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:42 AM (HTdUD)

246 It may have deeper roots than that; I saw a paper once that said it shared roots with "queen" and "coin" all the way back in Proto-Indo-European...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 19, 2017 08:38 AM (66CWr)


******

I think it even appears in cuneiform.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 19, 2017 08:42 AM (wPiJc)

247 Duh

Posted by: Muldoon at June 19, 2017 08:42 AM (wPiJc)

248 Given its long history, don't you find the continued ban odd?

I don't generally use the word, myself, though I have used "cunny" in - shall we say - intimate occasions. I also don't use the word 'ni**er," either, unless the situation calls for it.

A word has only the power you give it, I say.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 19, 2017 08:43 AM (X6fMO)

249 For a professional look at the DDG-62 collision:

http://tinyurl.com/y7fj8bhz.

Sailors rest your oars. Fiddlers Green is at the end of the trail.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 19, 2017 08:43 AM (u82oZ)

250 He injured ten. Which tells me the Muslim drivers must be trained because they're MUCH better at it.

Posted by: t-bird at June 19, 2017 08:43 AM (kUfFq)

251 I think it even appears in cuneiform. Posted by: Muldoon at June 19, 2017 08:42 AM (wPiJc)
=====

Groooooan. Only you, Muldoon. Poet Laureate of Pun.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 19, 2017 08:44 AM (MIKMs)

252

"Ossoff's GOTV has been unbelievable.

Packs of roaming Millenials with clipboards wandering the streets all weekend , knocking on doors. Phones ringing off the hook.



Posted by: Mortimer"

I had a couple. One talked to my wife, a Hispanic, when I wasn't there so naturally they put me down as likely Dem voter because that's how libs think. Came again when I was there. I set them straight on what I thought of Ossof and Dems and that yes, I was voting and would be showing up not to vote for the Republican can but against the Dem Pajama Boy.

They haven't been back since.

Posted by: Ripley at June 19, 2017 08:44 AM (MxEKc)

253 I think it even appears in cuneiform.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 19, 2017 08:42 AM (wPiJc)


We should just ask Vic.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 19, 2017 08:44 AM (X6fMO)

254 Deport us to where, exactly? When you deport someone, you return them to their country of origin.

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

That's a point we could use, with regards to Leftism.

America's founders and pioneers absorbed some bits of culture from the Natives. There's certain aspects of our hunting culture, for instance, or our love of the military that have no parallel in European culture. Also important was self-reliance - if you don't work, you die. Everyone has to do something.

Leftists, on the other hand, are unreformed Eurotrash. They think food comes from a market, despise the military, and want a strongman to take care of them, so they can abdicate responsibility for their condition and chase whatever perversions motivate them.

Ideologically speaking, they never got with the program.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:45 AM (J+mig)

255 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:36 AM (J+mig)


Funny how the only valid use of the freedom of religion clause these days is when the interpretation ensures that Christians are denied benefits!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 19, 2017 08:46 AM (gwPgz)

256 When you deport someone, you return them to their country of origin.

I say their idealogical country of origin is France.

Posted by: t-bird at June 19, 2017 08:47 AM (kUfFq)

257 231 Asshole NYT writer says we need to deport Americans and bring in more migrants.

Deport us to where, exactly?



You misunderstand the word deport when used by a Marxist.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 08:48 AM (l4aLi)

258 Otherwise, when Senator Kamala Harris becomes newsworthy/worthy of contempt, you've lost the power of the word to adequately describe her.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:42 AM (HTdUD)


Absolutely. It's already clear to me that every MFM catamite plans on hitching their wagon to that stank ho's rancid gash and that must be resisted by all who believe in liberty and good personal hygiene.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:48 AM (y7DUB)

259 I say their idealogical country of origin is France.

Posted by: t-bird at June 19, 2017 08:47 AM (kUfFq)

That, in short form, is the point I made in long form two posts above.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:48 AM (J+mig)

260 They finally got their long desired blowback.

Posted by: steevy at June 19, 2017 08:48 AM (rmVvL)

261 Funny how the only valid use of the freedom of religion clause these days is when the interpretation ensures that Christians are denied benefits!

It's used more to contain religion in that curiously lawyerly way of twisting things to mean the exact opposite of what they say.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 08:49 AM (oVJmc)

262 Does Lynch testify before Congress today?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 08:51 AM (l4aLi)

263 It's used more to contain religion in that curiously lawyerly way of twisting things to mean the exact opposite of what they say.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 08:49 AM (oVJmc)

There's an old word for that kind of lawyerish word twisting I find very useful: Sophistry. It's intellectually dishonest semantics, intended to obfuscate and confuse, rather than clarify.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:51 AM (J+mig)

264 It is good to see the Captain back here.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 19, 2017 08:51 AM (Eyx+b)

265 'Duke Lowell' created this list yesterday of how the left
encourages violence. I added the last two items...

Black Lives Matter
Occupy Wall Street
Rioting
Shutting down speeches on campuses
Targeting police officers
Social media mobs
Protesting outside of people's homes
Calling for blood in the streets
Calling for the death of political opponents
Shooting political opponents
Cheering on said shooting
Revealing the physical address of opponents
Calling in warnings to police requiring swat team response to physical address of opponents

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 19, 2017 08:52 AM (HTdUD)

266 Immigrants produce more babies, work harder, create more jobs, and have more ideas, claims the revealing column by immigration-advocate Bret Stephens:

One thing that unites the mass-immigration advocates is a visceral loathing of Americans.

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 08:52 AM (O7MnT)

267 I saw Stank Ho's Rancid Gash open for Toad The Wet Sprocket back in '94.

Posted by: fluffy at June 19, 2017 08:53 AM (jw2Xw)

268 48 year old man in a van.
66 year old shooter lived in his van.
Vans running over people in England, France.

It's an army of Matt Foleys

Screw the keffiyeh, the new terrorists garb is a plaid sports jacket

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 19, 2017 08:53 AM (yvoPs)

269 Asshole NYT writer says we need to deport Americans and bring in more migrants.

Deport us to where, exactly?


You misunderstand the word deport when used by a Marxist.
Posted by: Under Fire




Anytime they feel froggy.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2017 08:54 AM (vZ0KM)

270 It goes back to the famous Cicero quote. The enemy within is more dangerous than the enemy without.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 19, 2017 08:05 AM (J+mig)
And the US government is peppered with them. The Obama Administration capped a long process.

Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 08:55 AM (OU4q6)

271 I've finally got around to watching Howard Kurtz and his Mesiabuzz show. Every single person he had on could pass for a Democrat whether they were or not. The worst was Rich Lowry who wanted to go easy on the Left over the Scalise attempted assassination, the same stupidity we've heard so often before of not stooping to their level. I just had to fast forward it was that nauseating.

Washington is truly a swamp that you expect a malaria outbreak at any moment.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2017 08:55 AM (qYGdC)

272 48 year old man in a van.
66 year old shooter lived in his van.
Vans running over people in England, France.
It's an army of Matt Foleys
Screw the keffiyeh, the new terrorists garb is a plaid sports jacket
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone


Your words are hurtful and I wish to un-subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Guy Who Lives In A Van, Down By The River at June 19, 2017 08:57 AM (HTdUD)

273 Slightly OT, but can someone wake up the Tropical Weather COB? Big mess off the Mexican coast that might head N across the Gulf this week...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 08:57 AM (MINbv)

274 Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 19, 2017 08:53 AM (yvoPs)

So, in urban areas vans have replaced the popular Toyota truck?

Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 08:57 AM (OU4q6)

275 "Immigrants produce more babies..." Wait,I thought more babies were bad for the planet??

Posted by: steevy at June 19, 2017 09:00 AM (rmVvL)

276 I condemn the Finsbury Park mosque attack in the strongest possible terms. No, I won't say the terms themselves but I will say that I used them in my blanket condemnation, which is as you all know, and it goes without saying, is in the strongest possible terms.

Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling his inner Bernie Sanders at June 19, 2017 09:00 AM (JO9+V)

277 "Naval vessels do not get up to speed or maneuver quickly. While an Arleigh-Burke is pretty fast, even if the night watch did spot the incoming ship with 2-3 minutes to spare, it may have been too late to get out of the way."

Wrong. 10,000 ton merchant ships do not "sneak up" on or ram a U.S. Destroyer unless the OOD has his head up his stovepipe.

Fact. Not opinion.

"In God we trust; all others we track."

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN Mentioned in Despatches at June 19, 2017 09:01 AM (9X60i)

278 >>'Duke Lowell' created this list yesterday of how the left

encourages violence. I added the last two items...


In addition to all of those institutions/organization, a yuuuge difference is that the Democrats/Leftist celebrate and elevate to leader status domestic terrorists and violent felons.

For example, #BLM is founded on the ideology of FBI most wanted/convicted felon Joanne Chesimard. It will never *not* be violent.
Obama's black community liaison was Al Sharpton, who also has an MSNBC show. The guy has blood on his hands. Recent women's march event were planned and led by a Palestinian terrorist and a woman who kidnapped/tortured/murdered a man. Again, these leaders have blood on their hands.

You cannot have a terrorist/murderer leading your protest *and* claim to want non-violence. Personnel is policy.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 19, 2017 09:01 AM (NOIQH)

279 262
Does Lynch testify before Congress today?



Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 08:51 AM (l4aLi)

See #85. They are calling for her to testify but no date has been set. She may refuse.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

280 I condemn the Finsbury Park mosque attack in the strongest possible terms. No, I won't say the terms themselves

+++

Thoughts and prayers. I will not post the contents of either however

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 19, 2017 09:03 AM (yvoPs)

281 See #85. They are calling for her to testify but no date has been set. She may refuse.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

Ugh.


Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 09:03 AM (l4aLi)

282 I saw Stank Ho's Rancid Gash open for Toad The Wet Sprocket back in '94.

Posted by: fluffy at June 19, 2017 08:53 AM (jw2Xw)


I was there too! The action in the mish pit was frothy. I saw some real pounding going on.

Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling his inner Bernie Sanders at June 19, 2017 09:03 AM (JO9+V)

283 "One person is dead (although it's unclear if the victim was struck by the vehicle as he evidently had collapsed from a heart attack) and at least 10 are reported injured. The attacker reportedly said "I want to kill all Muslims" and "I did my bit" as he was led away by the bobbies."

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See, I have a great problem with that word "reportedly". Unless there is a recording showing all of the above we only have the Muslim rabble's word for any of it. With all the cell phones abounding surely somebody had the presence of mind to record what happened unless it contradicts the narrative.

Posted by: Decaf at June 19, 2017 09:04 AM (qYGdC)

284 Local shit news is playing up this Ossoff election like the
Ali/Frasier fight. The thriller in GA. 'Referendum on Trump!!!'

Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2017 09:05 AM (l4aLi)

285 I will not watch any MFM shit but my guess is they are covering this way more heavily than when it is the other way around.No baffled statements about what his motivation could have been.

Posted by: steevy at June 19, 2017 09:05 AM (rmVvL)

286 "They finally got their long desired blowback."

That's how Trump got elected. Obama was a reaction to the Bush-Clinton dynasties. When that didn't work we got Trump. Trump is fighting 28 years of institutionalized corruption.

Posted by: Mudd at June 19, 2017 09:05 AM (cfHE9)

287 283 It's not like they haven't made shit up before...

Posted by: steevy at June 19, 2017 09:06 AM (rmVvL)

288 I'm sorry, but what is the "MFM?' I Googled and got squat. I assume a variation of MSM (mainstream media)? MotherF-ing Media?

Posted by: HammerDog at June 19, 2017 09:07 AM (9M063)

289 With all the cell phones abounding surely somebody had the presence of mind to record what happened unless it contradicts the narrative."

Well, uh, see, there's a bad cell over there...

(the excuse for the amazing lack of vid/pic)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 09:07 AM (MINbv)

290 288 Exactly.

Posted by: steevy at June 19, 2017 09:08 AM (rmVvL)

291 I'm sorry, but what is the "MFM?'

I like to call it, the Mainstream Media as described by Samuel L. Jackson.

Posted by: V the K at June 19, 2017 09:08 AM (O7MnT)

292 I'm sorry, but what is the "MFM?' I Googled and got squat. I assume a variation of MSM (mainstream media)? MotherF-ing Media?



Ding ding ding!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2017 09:09 AM (vZ0KM)

293 Kept tabs on the enemy by listening to NPR on the way in to work today. They were all over the van attack in the UK, today, while they don't even know the name of the puke who did it or have any clue whatsoever about his motives:

Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism hateful ideology Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism vile extremism, Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism attacked because of their religion, Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism Terrorism


While they are still "searching for a motive" for the Pulse nightclub murder of 50 people.

Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at June 19, 2017 09:10 AM (1Rgee)

294 Immigrants produce more babies

The Paolo, you make him blushing...

Posted by: The Paolo at June 19, 2017 09:10 AM (sQ1li)

295 Proper channels, embrace American principles and culture, contribute to society, abide by our laws, defend and uphold the Constitution? Fine. Welcome.


Live in enclaves, refuse to even try to learn the local language, fly the flag of your home country, swear allegiance to Sharia law over our constitution, suck off the public teat, bad mouth America? No thanks.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 19, 2017 09:10 AM (wPiJc)

296 277 VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN Mentioned in Despatches

Absolutely.

-100,000 shaft horsepower, controllable pitch propellers, 4 available LM2500 gas turbines make the ship quite maneuverable. Even worst-case, one engine online in trail shaft, gives you enough speed to get out of trouble,. And full power with awesome backing power is a few minutes away.

-Collision alarm sounded when? And the CO, even in whitey-tighties, did not make it to the bridge?

-What was CIC doing? The Aegis Combat System should have had course and speed of all nearby contacts. With warnings on close aboard CPAs. The bridge has a repeater with this info. And a containership, with all those radar reflecting steel boxes on deck, can never hide.

-The OOD evidently did not get the CO to the bridge in time. Standing Orders notwithstanding.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 19, 2017 09:11 AM (u82oZ)

297 108
I just HAD to Wiki that while eating breakfast.



"A Colombian necktie (Spanish: corbata colombiana) is a brutal
method of murder wherein the victim's throat would be slashed
horizontally, with a knife or other sharp object, and his or her tongue
would be pulled out through the open wound."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 19, 2017 07:50 AM (ul9CR)
***
Yes indeedy WWW- not as lasting a torture as "Bolivian telephone" mind you - but good "pour encourager les autres."And don't press your luck with Mrs. Redux, JJ - she is way less forgiving than I ! (as many of you know Mrs Redux is native born Colombian and when people misspell the name of her lovely country of birth - she gets very, very angry)To get an idea of what Colombians are like - and why they dislike it when you misspell Colombia - watch this. Oh and btw - yes _ Colombian women all pretty much look like the girl in this video - and by that I mean smoking hot!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDSrJj7-b2o


Posted by: Publius Redux at June 19, 2017 09:11 AM (Fb9aZ)

298 The media can't do much with the Van rundown. The people they want to influence will assume it was a muslim terror attack. Assumption would be media is lying. Probably why the media is all in on Sandyhook. It is too believable that Sandyhook was staged. The correct response would be to ignore. More so than the moon-landing-hoax.

Government and media is full of incompetents who don't know how to be tyrants.

Posted by: Mudd at June 19, 2017 09:12 AM (cfHE9)

299 swear allegiance to Sharia law over our constitution, suck off the public teat, bad mouth America? No thanks.

But they create more jobs!

Posted by: The TSA at June 19, 2017 09:12 AM (sQ1li)

300 I'm sorry, but what is the "MFM?' I Googled and got squat. I assume a variation of MSM (mainstream media)? MotherF-ing Media?

I never cared for the term. I got lost on the way to the bathroom, that's all.

Posted by: Kay Parker at June 19, 2017 09:13 AM (HTdUD)

301 Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at June 19, 2017 09:10 AM (1Rgee)

That can't be right.....there's no Trump mentioned.

Posted by: BignJames at June 19, 2017 09:13 AM (x9c8r)

302 Slightly OT, but can someone wake up the Tropical Weather COB? Big mess off the Mexican coast that might head N across the Gulf this week...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 08:57 AM (MINbv)

NWS says it will fall apart in 48-72 hours.

it should encounter an increasingly hostile
environment of strong vertical shear associated with an upper-level trough over the west-central Caribbean. The global models are in good agreement on the system dissipating over the Central Caribbean, and the official intensity forecast is slightly below the model consensus at 48-72 h in deference to the global model predictions.

Posted by: golfman at June 19, 2017 09:13 AM (iynDC)

303 Interesting thing about the four Sekulow interviews yesterday: all of them used the same talking points and so-called 'rebuttals' of DJT's tweet. Sekulow kept repeating the 'he was responding to unsourced WaPo article' and they ALL tried to get him to condemn DJT tweets or buy into their conspiracy theories. If you watch them all in a row (helpfully compiled by Real Clear Politics) you see the coordination clearly.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 19, 2017 09:14 AM (MIKMs)

304 284, Under Fire - Fox News idiot was breatlessly reporting it as a sign of things to come in 2018.

Posted by: IC at June 19, 2017 09:14 AM (gcme+)

305 ... that stank ho's rancid gash and that must be resisted by all who believe in liberty and good personal hygiene.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 19, 2017 08:48 AM


It wasn't that bad.

Posted by: Willie Brown at June 19, 2017 09:14 AM (DMUuz)

306 Muslims say white people need to apologize for "Islamophobia Attack" on Muslims in London


Here's what you'll get. Look familiar?

#NotAllWhitePeople

#Don'LookBackInAnger

#GoAboutLifeAsUsualOrTerroristsWin

Posted by: Lizzy at June 19, 2017 09:15 AM (NOIQH)

307 To get an idea of what Colombians are like -"

Knock yourself out. I, however, am Columbian...

/get it?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 09:16 AM (MINbv)

308 Muslims say white people need to apologize for "Islamophobia Attack" on Muslims in London
========

Haha ahaha hahahaha ahaha

Ain't fucking happening.

And, does my lily white Muslim aunt living in Alexandria, Egypt have to apologize too?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 19, 2017 09:17 AM (vg8iE)

309 302, that's #2, not INVEST93L... which is more and more looking like a serious rain event around N. Orleans/Destin

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 19, 2017 09:18 AM (MINbv)

310 I must humbly point out that it was I who coined MFM.Ace wrote a post where he railed against "the mother fucking media" and I suggested that MFM was better than MSM or LSM to describe them.It hasn't caught on as bigly as I hoped.

Posted by: steevy at June 19, 2017 09:18 AM (rmVvL)

311
My friends, it's time for those on the right to tone down this rhetoric.

Posted by: John McCain at June 19, 2017 09:19 AM (HTdUD)

312 "Solar panels last a lot longer if you bring them inside."
It's OK if you leave the out overnight though.

Just bring them in before it gets too bright out.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 09:19 AM (i/+aM)

313 hears terrorism = muslim nut case killers

bad dog bad dog FIDO bad dog bad dog = media talk

blah blah blah FIDO blah blah blah = tail wags

media has shot itself in the head and is bleeding out

Posted by: Mudd at June 19, 2017 09:20 AM (cfHE9)

314 "Ossoff's GOTV has been unbelievable.

Packs of roaming Millenials with clipboards wandering the streets all weekend , knocking on doors. Phones ringing off the hook."


Then they better get a good return for all of that investment of money and time or there are going to some very angry and depressed people out there.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 19, 2017 09:21 AM (hLRSq)

315 Who will ride with me? Where are the muslims out with signs preventing the backlash against whites?

Posted by: Eli Cash at June 19, 2017 09:21 AM (qtJVq)

316 Trump just seduced John McCain's wife (ambassador at large).

Expect McCain to get much more supportive now that Trump has made himself comfortable with McCain's meal ticket.

Posted by: Mudd at June 19, 2017 09:23 AM (cfHE9)

317 Muslims say white people need to apologize for "Islamophobia Attack" on Muslims in London


Here's what you'll get. Look familiar?

#NotAllWhitePeople

#Don'LookBackInAnger

#GoAboutLifeAsUsualOrTerroristsWin
Posted by: Lizzy



#GottaLiveWithACertainLevelOfViolence

Posted by: rickb223 at June 19, 2017 09:23 AM (vZ0KM)

318 Salty...


Your link to the investigation is 404'd

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 09:23 AM (i/+aM)

319 Im going to react to this incident in London the same way that "moderate Muslims" react to terror attacks. "I condemn this attack, but..."

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at June 19, 2017 09:24 AM (YKtkk)

320 "War is upon you whether you wish it or not."

- Aragorn


Islam has been at war with the West for 1400 years. That has been forgotten in recent years.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 19, 2017 09:24 AM (dTmdP)

321 Sarah Hoyt has a good read in Part 3 of her series on how to save islam from itself:


https://pjmedia.com/homeland-

security/2017/06/17/how-were-losing-the-war-to-

save-the-islamic-world-part-iii-how-to-stop-terrorists-

and-allow-islam-to-westernize/

(remove extra spaces)

She says basically what I've said from the beginning (i.e. after 9/11) and what should've been done instead of W's rather silly "islam means peace multicultural foofaraw".

That is:

1) Kick down doors and kill anybody and everybody associated with terrorist cells. Preferably in a messy, violent, very public way.

2) Project extreme cultural confidence regarding the US and the West ala Radio Free Europe into islamic countries night and day, touting the vast superiority of daily life in a culture of Western tolerance.

But, read the whole thing.

I would go a bit further than she's willing to- i.e.. kill all funders, directly or indirectly, of terrorism (Hello-o-o-o, Saudi and Emirate Royals!!! Oh, and Pakistan, we see you hiding behind the Ficus!), stuff like that.

but, as I said...read the whole thing.

In all honesty though, the stupid and feckless political class we have worldwide(Helllo-o-o-o-o Davostards!!!) and particularly in Europe and the US-

encourages ever greater violence on the jihadis part (biowarfare, nerve gas, nuclear, mass murder - who knows but it's coming to a blue state near you) until the only answer is Extreme Glassification of Middle Eastern Cities and/or islamic shrines.

Too bad really.

Worst Political Class Evah. As Insty sez.


Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 19, 2017 09:24 AM (9q7Dl)

322 275 "Immigrants produce more babies..." Wait,I thought more babies were bad for the planet??
____________________

They are, but because they need lots of taxpayer-funded services, they're really good for us!

Posted by: Government bureaucrats at June 19, 2017 09:25 AM (nS5LK)

323 it should encounter an increasingly hostile
environment of strong vertical shear associated with an upper-level trough over the west-central Caribbean. The global models are in good agreement on the system dissipating over the Central Caribbean, and the official intensity forecast is slightly below the model consensus at 48-72 h in deference to the global model predictions.
Posted by: golfman at June 19, 2017 09:13 AM
~~~~~



Posted by: IrishEi at June 19, 2017 09:25 AM (HiDrR)

324 I'll also put money that THIS TIME the guy doing the terrorism WASN'T on a watch list, known to police, and DIDN'T have someone told that they were being racist if they tried to report him.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 19, 2017 09:25 AM (oVJmc)

325 I'm sorry, but what is the "MFM?' I Googled and got squat. I assume a variation of MSM (mainstream media)? MotherF-ing Media?
-----------------

I always hated the use of the term "mainstream media". That suggests that the democratic media complex reports and perpetuates mainstream opinions and concerns. That is absolutely false. They are leftist who spin the news to create fake narratives to further their liberal agenda.

I prefer the term 'Establishment Media'.

Posted by: JC at June 19, 2017 09:25 AM (3GSgE)

326 Chi-Com Breakthrough In Quantum Physics May Lead to Hacker-Proof Internet

The hacker-proof-iness is the whole point of communications based on quantum entanglement. That part works. The issue with data encryption based on quantum entanglement is that the throughput is currently glacially slow. My oldest got her physics Ph.D. last year doing exactly this kind of entanglement experiment, and her group was getting (reportedly) about 10 bytes/sec of data transmission. But my cell phone gets 10Megabytes/sec on a decent network, so the data transmission rate via quantum entanglement has a long way to go before it becomes viable in practice. In that light (so to speak), the Chinese experiment, cool as it is, is kind of a dog-and-pony show. It doesn't matter how far the Chinese sent their entangled communications if it's happening at basically a word per second.

Posted by: crisis du jour at June 19, 2017 09:25 AM (HuFy4)

327 There was a Peace march last week on Cologne, Germany where it was expected (not sure why) that 10K muslims would participate.
Here's what it looked like:

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/876704535519141888


Posted by: Lizzy at June 19, 2017 09:26 AM (NOIQH)

328 terror attack by a white guy. the obvious response for the UK is to import millions of white people stat.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 19, 2017 09:26 AM (nFwvY)

329 "it should encounter an increasingly hostile
environment of strong vertical shear associated with an upper-level trough over the west-central Caribbean. The global models are in good agreement on the system dissipating over the Central Caribbean, and the official intensity forecast is slightly below the model consensus at 48-72 h in deference to the global model predictions.
Posted by: golfman at June 19, 2017 09:13 AM
~~~~~


Sounds like Vertical Shear and Upper Level Trough are just gonna grab it by the mish, and beat it till it surrenders.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 09:28 AM (i/+aM)

330 "Packs of roaming Millenials with clipboards wandering the streets all weekend , knocking on doors. Phones ringing off the hook"

If this is true then it is on the list of stupidest things ever done.

Black vote: give money to activist preachers.
Urban vote: pay ward heelers.
Rural vote: send out conservative dressed women and men to shake hands.

new term: Millenials
old term: Space Cadets


Posted by: Mudd at June 19, 2017 09:29 AM (cfHE9)

331 it should encounter an increasingly hostile
environment of strong vertical shear associated with an upper-level trough over the west-central Caribbean. The global models are in good agreement on the system dissipating over the Central Caribbean, and the official intensity forecast is slightly below the model consensus at 48-72 h in deference to the global model predictions.
Posted by: golfman at June 19, 2017 09:13 AM

*****


Looks like somebody stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 19, 2017 09:30 AM (wPiJc)

332 Muslims say white people need to apologize for "Islamophobia Attack" on Muslims in London

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They have yet to invent a machine that can measure how little I care that muslims are "upset" that some guy finally took matters into his own hands and started enforcing justice for the many, many , many unjustified terrorist attacks on our society and deaths caused thereby, which were aided and abetted and/or actively carried out by the people at the Mosque that was attacked. So - although I do not condone this approach to enforcing justice for the many attacks per se - I - like JJ - understand it and expected it. "public safety" committees might not be too far behind.

So Sorry -

The "give-a-f*ck-o-meter" is just not registering anything at all.

Want it to register something - ?

Create a new islamic religion - one that is not a terrorist, pedophilic death cult and does not espouse sharia. Then turn in anyone among you who advocates, and or in any way supports, violence, rape, sharia or jihad, and lastly, assimilate into western culture and secular government and get off the dole.

IF you do all that - then my give-a-f*ck-o-meter' might budge. Until then - well - sorry - just like muslims do after the latest horrific attack caused by them and their religion - I will go about my business and continue to not care.

Posted by: Publius Redux at June 19, 2017 09:31 AM (Fb9aZ)

333 321
2) Project extreme cultural confidence regarding the US and the West ala Radio Free Europe into islamic countries night and day, touting the vast superiority of daily life in a culture of Western tolerance.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 19, 2017 09:24 AM (9q7Dl)


That's kind of hard to do when our own political class and intelligentsia don't believe it themselves.

Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2017 09:32 AM (xjiRE)

334 Expect McCain to get much more supportive now that Trump has made himself comfortable with McCain's meal ticket.



Posted by: Mudd at June 19, 2017 09:23 AM (cfHE9)

Not going to happen. IMO

Posted by: gracepc at June 19, 2017 09:32 AM (OU4q6)

335 NOOD

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 19, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)

336 Had some millennial show up at the door over the weekend extolling the virtues of Chris Van Hollins efforts to do something with the environment.

Told the kid that I didn't trust him any further than I could throw him.

He closed his clipboard and walked away.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 09:32 AM (i/+aM)

337 I don't expect this of them, because of all their bigotry and hate; but British Muslims really ought to ask themselves, "why do they hate us?". Introspection can be very powerful, and they should employ it.

Posted by: Oxford Psychology Prof at June 19, 2017 09:35 AM (D4rQ6)

338 I saw Vertical Trough open for Upper Level Trough at the old Grande Ballroom, in the MC5 days. I think maybe Frost was in the forecast.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 19, 2017 09:41 AM (H5rtT)

339 "I think maybe Frost was in the forecast."

I loved him in the Nixon Interviews.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 09:47 AM (i/+aM)

340 This is the thing about immigration, it isn't a bad idea to me, what is is giving special favors and telling the natives they must support, while govt demands become astronomical, from giving up your own freedoms , speech, guns etc to calling you names if you squeak while losing jobs etc.

I am sorry this happened to likely innocent people, but to me the drive towards govt goals while ignoring the plight of the populace , with shut up you , as the reponse might cause some loosely bent person to react badly.
I just pray for Europe , well hell the world to stop the mysery.
but of course I don't see it happening.

Posted by: willow at June 19, 2017 10:06 AM (iS1Cb)

341 I can't type what I'd like to, so I'm sad that innocent human life was lost.

Posted by: very irredeemably undude at June 19, 2017 10:06 AM (2X7pN)

342 misery*

Posted by: willow at June 19, 2017 10:06 AM (iS1Cb)

343 "Organized or not, both of those totalitarian ideologies openly and
directly inspire and demand our subjugation, surrender or death in their
unending quest for absolute power and control." jj sefton

you said a mouthful there. didn't we fight huge wars against such tyrants, and against the spread of communism?

They already infiltrated our institutions. They have their violent players well funded (Soros and others backing BLM, antifa, many others). Yet because they dominate media, can get away with Orwellian claims that non-violent "deplorables" are the new evil, and "global governance Hillary" only want peace (through totalitarian strength of global agencies).

It is like jihad ... peace through submission to them. And like jihad in that the "peaceful" Muslims pretend they are against violence, though polls say they are fully "tolerant" and a majority would not reveal terror plots in the making. (some have)

The right needs to "fight" like the left ... don't go all soft and apologetic when someone on the right retaliates against the insufferable left or their jihadist counterparts. "I condemn the violence, but the treasonous deep state attacks to take down our duly elected president must end." (or whatever appropriate rebuttal as the mfm tries to smear everyone on the "right" with the actions of a "lone wolf").

GOPe is weak for us, because they are not really for US, they are for the global cabal that funds them. The most vulnerable GOPe need to be primaried in 2018. Even Dem working class can be brought on board, since unions largely agree with America First. power to the (working class) people.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 19, 2017 10:10 AM (O8hcu)

344 Europe has a long history of ignoring problems right up to the blood bath. It's hard for me to have too much sympathy for them. I'd probably have more if I hadn't seem so many brits on twitter going full bore caliphate advocate. What they don't seem to realize is that the danger isn't just from their beloved sharia, but from those who refuse to submit.




Posted by: dagny at June 19, 2017 10:15 AM (OdHXU)

345 I once had hope for Congressman Jason, as I did for my own Congressman Justin. Both hopes have gone away. Jason seems to have fallen in love with a power dream supplied by Romney-McMuffin-Kristol. Justin seems to just want the be the House version of the "Maverick."

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 10:27 AM (d3wbb)

346 "Now, the potential land mine; "I was going to write that I understand
why this incident happened, but even that can be interpreted as an
approval.""

Maybe Jared Lee Loughner was onto something when he asked "What is government if words have no meaning?" and thought that the government was controlling grammar.

To control speech is to control thought. Loughner was crazy. But Jeff Goldstein at Protein Wisdom wasn't crazy, he was right about this.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 19, 2017 10:35 AM (d3wbb)

347 Greetings:

And speaking of "karma"...

While she certainly seems beset by Muslim problems on both sides of the balance, I would just like to mention that in her previous governmental sinecure as "Home Secretary" Teresa May was responsible for banning two Americans Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller from entering Britain to speak on behalf of the "Stop the Islamization of Europe" group. Additionally, she turned her authoritarian authorities against her fellow citizens who were involved in similar efforts.

Posted by: 11B40 at June 19, 2017 10:41 AM (evgyj)

348 We have troops in how many Muslim countries ?

Posted by: Bus rider at June 19, 2017 10:50 AM (00w8N)

349 "We have troops in how many Muslim countries ?"

Including Britain and France?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 19, 2017 10:55 AM (i/+aM)

350 About the post: Looks like JJ finally figured out how to make paragraphs. Good. I was getting tired of walls-o-words. But always too late to the thread to mention it. Like today.

Posted by: mindful webworker - nitpicky at June 19, 2017 11:24 AM (dfEoR)

351 1. Why no pics of the driver?
2. Paint a kill marking on the F-18!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 19, 2017 11:31 AM (lQqij)

352 125


If Bill O'Reilly starts a new network, he should take Hannity and Tucker Carlson with him. Then, goodbye Fox.

yup. i'm just waiting for FNC to pickup on its "Sister Network" - Sky - News' bend-over position to parrot May's "ISIS just wants to divide us" meme.

Posted by: WaldoTJ (in Texas) at June 19, 2017 11:50 AM (M1MpJ)

353 I feel nothing but contempt for the dirt bag that attack the Mosque, however when Muslims' whine before the camera how they're scared for their daughters or children they lost my empathy. How do they think we feel when on a daily basis Muslims are killing children in the most horrible way one can imagine. As usual the media paint the entire community as a victim but when they attack us the media consider it a singular issue.

Posted by: Rose at June 19, 2017 12:20 PM (3N8PC)

354 CBS suggests that mass assassination attempt was "self inflicted" because Rs had nerve to win democratic election. Any chance CBS will also suggest that retaliation against religion of systematic mass murder might be at all self-inflicted? Sorry, forget I asked.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at June 19, 2017 12:47 PM (AphMS)

355 So I thought we were going to start playing by the Left's playbook from now on? Which would mean that we must be aggressively blaming this on the fact that muslims don't assimilate and the Left isn't doing anything to encourage them to and is in fact going overboard with the PC crap.
What needs to be done is to flood Conservative media with posts about how the muslims brought this on themselves because of their failure to assimilate.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at June 19, 2017 12:56 PM (NCilI)

356 Thanks for the white space. It is much appreciated.

Posted by: wodun at June 19, 2017 03:17 PM (lFga6)

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