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Russia: We May Have Killed al-Baghdadi, Maybe

Well, yeah, if you drop a bomb and there's a bunch of wreckage, sure, you might have killed any number of people.

Bring me his head or his heart so I can tell for sure.

Posted by: Ace at 02:00 PM




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1 Me too!

Posted by: Obama at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (O2RFr)

2
I hope it's true. That guy was subhuman.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (fceHP)

3 Are they trying to scrape up all the Baghdadi bits to make certain?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 16, 2017 02:09 PM (so+oy)

4 My cat sez "I wish I had as many lives as Baghdadi."

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 16, 2017 02:09 PM (6jaju)

5 When are they announcing Comey's arrival?

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:09 PM (2+tI4)

6 Bring me his head goat

Le Feex'd

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (udajc)

7 Oh wait. That was Big Daddy.

Nevermind.

Posted by: Putin at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (Mouru)

8 I wish we'd bring back the heads on a pike thing.

Posted by: Iblis at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (9221z)

9 In Soviet Russia, bomb drops you.

Posted by: brak at June 16, 2017 02:12 PM (VckGX)

10 Those monkeys all look alike.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2017 02:12 PM (Mouru)

11 They only did it as part of their deal with Trump.

Posted by: Brisco_County at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (+/akC)

12 I wish we'd bring back the heads on a pike thing.

I have a head I won't be using anymore

Posted by: Kathy Griffin at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (O2RFr)

13 *looks at time stamp on post*

*looks at amount of comments*

*looks at clock*

Forget it, Jake, it's HQ time.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (dEQP3)

14 I don't believe a word that comes out of the Middle East if not verified by Israelis.

Posted by: Decaf at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (qYGdC)

15 There's a wedding in Syria where there the dessert service has suddenly been cancelled.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (Mouru)

16 everywhere in the ME goats are weeping for their lost love.

Posted by: cornbred at June 16, 2017 02:15 PM (qWeu0)

17 Baghdadi killed?

Well, okay. But George, tell me about the rabbits again.

Posted by: Lenny at June 16, 2017 02:15 PM (RFeQD)

18 I sure hope so. And I hope they kill whoever takes his place, and so on and so on.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:16 PM (0mRoj)

19 HAH! YOU MISSED!!!

Posted by: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at June 16, 2017 02:16 PM (Mouru)

20 *looks at time stamp on post*

*looks at amount of comments*

*looks at clock*

Forget it, Jake, it's HQ time.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now


Pfft. Unless it got cleaned out, I still have a comment in a time-bottle out there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 16, 2017 02:17 PM (AM1GF)

21 Ace is lying to us about the time machine.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:17 PM (0mRoj)

22 The Russian's make some amazing engraved silver platters. Very posh. I would vote for one of those for head delivery.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:17 PM (l4aLi)

23 Ace, you might be outrageded/disgusted by this amazing revelation:

London High-Rise Inferno Directly Caused by "Climate Change" Regulations imposed by EU Global Warming Cultists

Fire spread to the whole building because of new flammable "cladding" recently installed to make the formerly fireproof building more "green" and "sustainable":

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3800401/grenfell-tower-cladding-fires-world-high-rise/

Fire started by refrigerator using explosive/incendiary "coolant" instead of the super-safe freon -- due to new "sustainability" regulations:

http://www.ukfiretraining.com/news/fridge-freezer-fires.html

The Green Fascists have blood on their hands.

Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (DQ4Fv)

24 A bunch of the together? Very Apalachin.

Posted by: Henry Hill at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (bc2Lc)

25 so are they giving him a proper burial at sea like we did with fk face bin laden?

they can do that game too I suppoise.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (iS1Cb)

26 My liberal friends on Facebook are in angry denial that the left has a violence problem. This relates to an epiphany that Prager recently recounted: Mainstream liberals are simply unaware of the number of occurrences and the pattern of violence from the left. They think the left is behaving just as badly as the right. It's time to hammer home the disparity between the two sides: Right wing nuts have assaulted a handful of people in the past 15 years, while it's a routine occurrence from the left, which is then rationalized and sympathized by progressive media. This fact requires heavy circulation through social media before they acknowledge it.

Posted by: Brisco_County at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (+/akC)

27 Again? This guy has been killed a half dozen times already.


Regardless, I hope this is true!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:19 PM (NOIQH)

28 Posted by: Ace at 12:49 PM

Heh.

Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2017 02:19 PM (z/Ubi)

29

early OT in proportion to the post size...

Drudge Report founder Matt Drudge weighed in on cable news "stress" in a Friday morning tweet, citing recent medical leaves of MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and Fox News's Tucker Carlson while stating that "another host appears heavily drugged."

who does he think the "drugged" one is?

who is primetime? slobbering Matthews? Tapper? Cooper?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:19 PM (fceHP)

30 Wait a minute, hold on.
I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that as a guy I can use sex to get what I want.
C'mere, time for a new motorcycle baby!!!!

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (UmSfZ)

31 25 so are they giving him a proper burial at sea like we did with fk face bin laden?

they can do that game too I suppoise.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (iS1Cb)

I vote for finding a pig sty and burying him head down, and then fill the hole with pig crap.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (ycWCI)

32 A bunch of the together? Very Apalachin.
Posted by: Henry Hill at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (bc2Lc)



Al-Baghdadi was a pimp. He could never have outfought Santino.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (Mouru)

33 We May Have Killed al-Baghdadi, Maybe




Actually it was el-Baghdadi. His Mexican gardener.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (493sH)

34 Some general on FBN this morning didn't think they got this goat humper, apparently our intelligence has him being someplace else.

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (a0IVu)

35 Fire started by refrigerator using explosive/incendiary "coolant" instead of the super-safe freon -- due to new "sustainability" regulations:

http://www.ukfiretraining.com/news/fridge-freezer-fires.html

The Green Fascists have blood on their hands.
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (DQ4Fv)



Coming soon to a supermarket near you courtesy of Barky the 1st's EPA and DOE. OEMs in the refrigeration industry have been looking at propane as a long term replacement due to its low GWP.

Posted by: cornbred at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (qWeu0)

36 Yeah, we'll see.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 02:21 PM (CMbMd)

37 Ace just traveled back in time. Huh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:21 PM (PY9jH)

38 Wait a minute, hold on.
I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that as a guy I can use sex to get what I want.
C'mere, time for a new motorcycle baby!!!!

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (UmSfZ)



Barry O: Stop by some time and I'll see what I can do for you *winks*

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:21 PM (493sH)

39
Even better link for the cladding "sustainability" connection:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/15/deadly-london-tower-fire-fueled-by-green-energy-rules/

"London’s Grenfell Tower was made worse by government “green energy requirements” that allowed fire to rapidly engulf the building Wednesday, leaving at least 17 people dead and scores more wounded or missing.
...


The Telegraph noted that cladding “is used as an insulation to make buildings more sustainable to meet green energy requirements.” Some 30,000 buildings in the U.K. have been retrofitted with cladding to cheaply comply with green energy mandates."

Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:21 PM (DQ4Fv)

40 Fire started by refrigerator using explosive/incendiary "coolant" instead of the super-safe freon -- due to new "sustainability" regulations:

The Green Fascists have blood on their hands.
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (DQ4Fv)



Coming soon: Hydrogen-filled airships!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (Mouru)

41 *checks time stamp*

Is Ace posting from Newfoundland?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (hLRSq)

42 29 who is primetime? slobbering Matthews? Tapper? Cooper?



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:19 PM (fceHP)

Juan Williams?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (CMbMd)

43 AMZ is buying Whole Foods.

Guess I have to drive the extra mile or two to Trader Joe's or Wegman's.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (kD8Fh)

44 Baghdadi has had more fake reports of death than Paul McCartney, so I would definitely take this with a grain of salt.

But if this is true, I can't wait to hear John McCain explain how this is unacceptable aggression by Russia and we need to start WWIII because reasons.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (rX06+)

45 >>The Telegraph noted that cladding "is used as an insulation to make
buildings more sustainable to meet green energy requirements." Some
30,000 buildings in the U.K. have been retrofitted with cladding to
cheaply comply with green energy mandates."


"Praise Allah!"
--- ISIS

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (NOIQH)

46 Drudge Report founder Matt Drudge weighed in on cable news "stress" in a Friday morning tweet, citing recent medical leaves of MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and Fox News's Tucker Carlson while stating that "another host appears heavily drugged."

Tucker had appendicitis...

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (O2RFr)

47 Maybe they bombed a wedding party.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (Wj6hd)

48 I wish we'd bring back the heads on a pike thing.

Posted by: Iblis at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (9221z)


What'd that poor fish do to deserve that?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (hLRSq)

49
There was something about a blimp over the US Open that burst into flame.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (MIKMs)

50 Pixy hates me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (PY9jH)

51 35
Coming soon to a supermarket near you courtesy of Barky the 1st's EPA and DOE. OEMs in the refrigeration industry have been looking at propane as a long term replacement due to its low GWP.

Posted by: cornbred at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (qWeu0)

We have a propane absorption type fridge in our motorhome. Thing works great and sips the gas. Of course, it could blow up in a huge fireball at any time.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (l4aLi)

52 What does Al-Baghdadi do on typical day?

I was thinking, a lot of administrative work. Plus at least five sessions of sticking bis ass up in the air and hammering his forehead into the floor, to keep from going to hell.

And raping young boys and girls, because that's how you keep the respect of the men. Even if he's really sick, he's at least got to go through the motions.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (Ma5oF)

53 "23
Ace, you might be outrageded/disgusted by this amazing revelation:"

In Austin, there is a pandemic of AC units failing because the city's green energy policies mandate that builders install under-powered AC units in new homes. The units are over-burdened for the cubic volume of the home, so they end up failing prematurely. And it always happens at the peak of summer when temperatures rise over 100 degrees regularly.

Posted by: Brisco_County at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (+/akC)

54 Some 30,000 buildings in the U.K. have been retrofitted
with cladding to cheaply comply with green energy mandates."



Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:21 PM (DQ4Fv)

Paper-mache might have been more fire-retardant...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (8iiMU)

55 Trump, that magnificent bastard, surely hacked that bomb!

Posted by: ShainS at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (oze3i)

56 Was that guy in the sheep painting the other day al-Baghdadi?

Posted by: Beartooth at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (/8EBC)

57 i was reading about the Islamic State in "The Muhammad Code" published by Feral House. they were discussing the lot of the Yazidi girls who ended up in caliphal harems.

one jihadi a few weeks later complained to one of the women around the place. "this girl smells bad." (the girl being about thirteen iirc) the response was, she's infected, because you raped her too hard and too often.

THAT's the caliphate.

as for what to say to the Colorado feminists in their pink kitty hats, I wont, because I could easily get banned if I said what was on my mind.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (94ccS)

58 45 >>The Telegraph noted that cladding "is used as an insulation to make
buildings more sustainable to meet green energy requirements." Some
30,000 buildings in the U.K. have been retrofitted with cladding to
cheaply comply with green energy mandates."


"Praise Allah!"
--- ISIS
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (NOIQH)

So, wait, in order to be sustainable to combat an issue in the far future, we need to make the buildings wildly unsafe right this second.

I am still waiting for why environmental regs meant the frickin sprinkler system did not work.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (ycWCI)

59 31 25 so are they giving him a proper burial at sea like we did with fk face bin laden?

they can do that game too I suppoise.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (iS1Cb)

I vote for finding a pig sty and burying him head down, and then fill the hole with pig crap.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (ycWCI)

But to fulfill his last wishes
He was buried in six feet of
Shhhhhaving cream
Be nice and clean
Shave every day and you'll always look keen

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:25 PM (0mRoj)

60 al-Baghdadi is like the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:25 PM (QQ+il)

61 I wish we'd bring back the heads on a pike thing.

Posted by: Iblis at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (9221z)



Christopher Pike: *beep* *beep*

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (493sH)

62 Serious question: even if you hoovered up the glorp, and did DNA testing, how do you know it's him? Was Omar al-Baghdadi ever identified as a specific individual with a family history? Isn't it just a nom de guerre?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (XUcIQ)

63 57 i was reading about the Islamic State in "The Muhammad Code" published by Feral House. they were discussing the lot of the Yazidi girls who ended up in caliphal harems.

one jihadi a few weeks later complained to one of the women around the place. "this girl smells bad." (the girl being about thirteen iirc) the response was, she's infected, because you raped her too hard and too often.

THAT's the caliphate.

as for what to say to the Colorado feminists in their pink kitty hats, I wont, because I could easily get banned if I said what was on my mind.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (94ccS)

Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (ycWCI)

64 al-Baghdadi is like the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Wow, He's been killed more times than Chers career...

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (O2RFr)

65 I am still waiting for why environmental regs meant the frickin sprinkler system did not work.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:24 PM (ycWCI)
____


I read that, and that the fire stairway was blocked somehow as well.

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (UmSfZ)

66 Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (493sH)

+++

LOL.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (wI4ew)

67 an air strike may have killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and up to 330 other fighters

Collateral must have an entirely different meaning in Russian.

Posted by: DaveA at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (FhXTo)

68 This "green" shit is bring back the middle ages. My neighbor is being overrun with vermin because her stupid neighbors are composting all their kitchen waste.

So while they attract ever mouse and rat, my friend is poisoning all the wildlife.

We have modern waste disposal for a reason.


Green idiots trying for "Great Fire" building materials. Why not just construct a medieval slum? You can compost in the streets and go up in flames.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (OdHXU)

69 We have a propane absorption type fridge in our motorhome. Thing works great and sips the gas. Of course, it could blow up in a huge fireball at any time.
Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (l4aLi)

Those are great, if they ever stop working its usually because they have been unused for so long. All you do is take it out and turn it upside down for a few hours, then put back in place.

Supermarkets use the same refrigerant but different application

Posted by: cornbred at June 16, 2017 02:27 PM (qWeu0)

70 I read that, and that the fire stairway was blocked somehow as well.

I'm still suspicious of the "cause"...

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:27 PM (O2RFr)

71 62 Serious question: even if you hoovered up the glorp, and did DNA testing, how do you know it's him? Was Omar al-Baghdadi ever identified as a specific individual with a family history? Isn't it just a nom de guerre?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (XUcIQ)

Hmmm, a Dread Pirate Roberts thing?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:27 PM (ycWCI)

72 They'll just find another lookalike to prop up. ISIS probably has a bunch in the bullpen just waiting to show their believers that he can't be killed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2017 02:27 PM (MIKMs)

73 I wish we'd bring back the heads on a pike thing.



Posted by: Iblis at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (9221z)



Watched the premier of "Hell on Earth" by Nat Geo the other night. There were heads on spikes, and men being slowly roasted alive in Syria.


Images that will never leave my mind.


And shockingly, Nat Geo laid the blame for the rise of ISIS squarely on the skinny shoulders of Barry Obama. Scathing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:28 PM (PY9jH)

74 64 al-Baghdadi is like the Dread Pirate Roberts.

Wow, He's been killed more times than Chers career...
Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (O2RFr)

Hah! Beat me to it.

*doffs cap and does a sweeping bow*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:28 PM (ycWCI)

75 62 Serious question: even if you hoovered up the glorp, and did DNA testing, how do you know it's him? Was Omar al-Baghdadi ever identified as a specific individual with a family history? Isn't it just a nom de guerre?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (XUcIQ)

+++

Well it's somebody. We know that at least.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:28 PM (wI4ew)

76 London High-Rise Inferno Directly Caused by "Climate Change" Regulations imposed by EU Global Warming Cultists




thanks a lot Al Gore

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 02:28 PM (nFwvY)

77 Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (OdHXU)\

Why not just drop the gaia-worshippers into the deepest darkest Amazon with a compass and a swiss army knife?

Posted by: cornbred at June 16, 2017 02:28 PM (qWeu0)

78 Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (ycWCI)


They weren't. However, they were later used as propaganda by secularists and protestant reformers. They were f-ups in the end, probably bringing about the fall of Byzantium, but as a concept they were righteous.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (OdHXU)

79 Ace: "Bring me his head or his heart so I can tell for sure."


If only we still drank from the skulls of our enemies.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (jxbfJ)

80 ....aaaannnddd, the guy who is thise close to unseating Teresa May and becoming the new UK Prime Minister not instead blames "capitalism" for the disaster (instead of his own policies), but now is floating the idea of literally seizing rich people's homes, for the poor to live in, as "reparations":

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/15/ jeremy-corbyn-empty-homes-owned-rich-should-requisitioned-grenfell/

Jeremy Corbyn: Empty homes owned by rich should be 'requisitioned' for Grenfell Tower residents

Straight-up Leninism, not even hiding it.

Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

81 not instead blames = NOW instead blames

Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

82 Juan Williams?
Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (CMbMd)


heh.

I watched last night's The Five this morning with coffee.

Listening to him and watching Juan jumping through the theatrical hoops was not convincing - at all. He uses the talking points and said some of the stupidest things I think I have ever heard him say, but that is what he is getting paid for now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:30 PM (fceHP)

83 Just curious, how would you know if it's al Baghdadi's heart?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2017 02:30 PM (/tuJf)

84 83
Just curious, how would you know if it's al Baghdadi's heart?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2017 02:30 PM (/tuJf)

It's black and hard as a piece of coal?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 16, 2017 02:30 PM (8iiMU)

85 I may have shit my pantsuit! *hic*

Posted by: Hillary! at June 16, 2017 02:30 PM (tTTDy)

86 Jeremy Corbyn: Empty homes owned by rich should be 'requisitioned' for Grenfell Tower residents

Straight-up Leninism, not even hiding it.
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

I seem to remember this movie. Didn't it have a guy in a mask with an odd accent? Ace used to imitate him on podcasts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:30 PM (ycWCI)

87 Wait a minute, hold on.

I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that as a guy I can use sex to get what I want.

C'mere, time for a new motorcycle baby!!!!



Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (UmSfZ)


I just want a peaceful, easy feeling . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2017 02:31 PM (JO9+V)

88 Regarding the tower of london, probably started as a 'jihadi work accident' and the rest just went along for the ride.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2017 02:31 PM (MIKMs)

89 Why not, maybe they got lucky

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2017 02:32 PM (Ot7+c)

90 {expletive deleted}

Telegraph.co.uk -
Grenfell Tower floorplan shows how 120 flats were packed into highrise

Muffed the linkage. Telegraph requires javascript enabled, then they demand you turn off adblock. And you need javascript to see the floor plan of the building.

Basically, there was only one exit from the building, down the central core of the building, either by stairwell or elevator, which quickly became a chimney full of smoke, and then dead bodies as people fought their way down the stairwells.

Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:32 PM (m9X4Y)

91 86 Jeremy Corbyn: Empty homes owned by rich should be 'requisitioned' for Grenfell Tower residents


Yes some of those homes are large enough to house 50 or 60... the normal amount stuffed into those free housing apartments...

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:32 PM (O2RFr)

92 Collateral must have an entirely different meaning in Russian.

Posted by: DaveA at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (FhXTo)


The direct translation is "sucks to be you".

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (hLRSq)

93 But to fulfill his last wishes

He was buried in six feet of

Shhhhhaving cream

Be nice and clean

Shave every day and you'll always look keen

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:25 PM


Burma Shave?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (p+Wdc)

94 90 {expletive deleted}

Telegraph.co.uk -
Grenfell Tower floorplan shows how 120 flats were packed into highrise

Muffed the linkage. Telegraph requires javascript enabled, then they demand you turn off adblock. And you need javascript to see the floor plan of the building.

Basically, there was only one exit from the building, down the central core of the building, either by stairwell or elevator, which quickly became a chimney full of smoke, and then dead bodies as people fought their way down the stairwells.
Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:32 PM (m9X4Y)

Great. Sounds like those turn of the century tenements with centralized air shafts that served double duty of spreading disease and making the place a blazing death trap in the event of a fire.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (0mRoj)

95 The Green Fascists have blood on their hands.

This is not the first time. The Columbia breakup on reentry was due to "green" insulation on the outside destroying the thermal tiles.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (3J/LN)

96 >>>Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?

The horses were too high!

Posted by: wooga at June 16, 2017 02:34 PM (xndrr)

97 96 >>>Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?

The horses were too high!
Posted by: wooga at June 16, 2017 02:34 PM (xndrr)

Never give reefer to a horse.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:34 PM (0mRoj)

98 Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (ycWCI)

! I know! I make a point anytime "but the Crusades" comes up in a conversation to point out that the Crusaders were the good guys!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 16, 2017 02:34 PM (AURKQ)

99 The tower was built in the 70's and had no sprinkler system.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (RQP0C)

100 Great. Sounds like those turn of the century tenements with centralized air shafts that served double duty of spreading disease and making the place a blazing death trap in the event of a fire.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (0mRoj)

+++

Yes, it does.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (wI4ew)

101 Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?

They didn't finish the job?

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (O2RFr)

102 Pixy hates me.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM


When the hamsters' H8 becomes too GR8,
consider gerbils.

Worked for me.

Posted by: Richard G. at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (4lTw2)

103 Shave every day and you'll always look keen

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:25 PM

Burma Shave?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (p+Wdc)

Please. It's Myanmar now.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (0mRoj)

104 If I had been president at the time, I would have had Bin Laden's polished skull encased in an ball of resin and asked Congress to make it mandatory that each president had to take the oath of office with the Orb of Vengeance in his left hand.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (QQ+il)

105 This just in: al-Baghdadi is dead but General Franco is still alive!

Posted by: SNL at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (JO9+V)

106 The tower was built in the 70's and had no sprinkler system.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (RQP0C)


So after the Blitz it never occurred to anyone, in a place where there is more water than they now what to do with, that maybe sprinkler systems would be a good idea?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (hLRSq)

107 An air strike may have killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and up to 330 other fighters

They must've gathered to sing "Imagine"...

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (qJhUV)

108 C'mere, time for a new motorcycle baby!!!!
Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (UmSfZ)

Technically, motorcycle babies are called mini-bikes if they are boys and mopeds if they're girls.

And I love my bike too, just not in that way.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (z79tQ)

109 If I had been president at the time, I would have
had Bin Laden's polished skull encased in an ball of resin and asked
Congress to make it mandatory that each president had to take the oath
of office with the Orb of Vengeance in his left hand.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (QQ+il)


Trump would have probably made a goblet out of it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (PY9jH)

110 If I had been president at the time, I would have had Bin Laden's polished skull encased in an ball of resin and asked Congress to make it mandatory that each president had to take the oath of office with the Orb of Vengeance in his left hand.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (QQ+il)


Awesome..fucking awesome.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (aMlLZ)

111 Even a Kleenex commercial has to be girl power."You can go anywhere" girl playing football with boys.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (rmVvL)

112
Burma Shave?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (p+Wdc)

Please. It's Myanmar now.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (0mRoj)

+++

I refuse to submit to their name change. It will always be Burma to me,

Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (wI4ew)

113 girl playing football with boys.

As a tackling dummy?

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (O2RFr)

114
Even a Kleenex commercial has to be girl power."You can go anywhere" girl playing football with boys.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (rmVvL)


Can they go to boot camp when they're drafted?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (PY9jH)

115 111 Even a Kleenex commercial has to be girl power."You can go anywhere" girl playing football with boys.
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (rmVvL)

Uh huh. Once they complete a year or two of puberty she'll be a smear on the field.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (0mRoj)

116 aaaannnddd, the guy who is thise close to unseating Teresa May and becoming the new UK Prime Minister not instead blames "capitalism" for the disaster (instead of his own policies), but now is floating the idea of literally seizing rich people's homes, for the poor to live in, as "reparations":

Jeremy Corbyn: Empty homes owned by rich should be 'requisitioned' for Grenfell Tower residents

Straight-up Leninism, not even hiding it.
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (DQ4Fv)


I don't know how many Hollywood actors have homes there, but wouldn't that be something.

Madonna, for example, owns six separate properties in London (Forbes) - not sure about this since she divorced Ritchie.

eight-bedroom London rental (and wherever they stay when they're filming), Brangelina owns a chateau in the south of France that sits on a cool 1,000 acres and has 35 rooms. (Ranker)

Tom Cruise is the latest in an ever-growing list of celebrity buyers making their homes in London (Telegraph)

Paltrow used to live there

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (fceHP)

117 104 If I had been president at the time, I would have had Bin Laden's polished skull encased in an ball of resin and asked Congress to make it mandatory that each president had to take the oath of office with the Orb of Vengeance in his left hand.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (QQ+il)

newsletter?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (l4aLi)

118 The tower was built in the 70's and had no sprinkler system.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at June 16, 2017 02:35 PM (RQP0C)


Quick, someone call Steve McQueen

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (493sH)

119 So after the Blitz it never occurred to anyone, in a place where there is more water than they now what to do with, that maybe sprinkler systems would be a good idea?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (hLRSq)

You know something odd? I have sprnklers in my apartment, but they are not in the ceiling- they are set high in the wall? Kind of makes sense, that way they could hit the ceiling if it was on fire. Just never seen it before this place.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (ycWCI)

120 Jeremy Corbyn: Empty homes owned by rich should be 'requisitioned' for Grenfell Tower residents

Straight-up Leninism, not even hiding it.


YouGov poll says almost 60% of Brits approve of Corbyn's suggestion.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yc5doxbu

I just ... there's nothing to say.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (jhqr1)

121 AoSHQ: come for the lapidary comments, stay for the time discontinuity.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 02:39 PM (BWL+E)

122 Good morning, gentlemen. This is a twelve-storey block
combining classical neo-Georgian features with the efficiency of modern
techniques. The tenants arrive in the entrance hall here, and are
carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort and
past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes, towards the rotating knives.
The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed. The
blood pours down these chutes and the mangled flesh slurps into these...

Posted by: The Architect Sketch at June 16, 2017 02:39 PM (JO9+V)

123 the Crusades didn't take the time to ensure North Africa was sufficiently secured, re-Christianised, and re-Latinised. a few stable Normano-Berber kingdoms up to Egypt's border and you are looking at a possible Coptic resurgence and better supply lines for the Crusader states.

as it stood, mediaeval France (or what passed for it) could just about handle their own Languedoc. Frankish Palestine was never going to work in the long term

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:39 PM (94ccS)

124 Bombs! Bombs! Bombs!

I hardly ever get to play anymore.

Posted by: Iocane Powder at June 16, 2017 02:39 PM (VFhMt)

125 Tragically it was actually Basketball Porn Parody Star Hoosier-Bagdadi.

Posted by: DaveA at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (FhXTo)

126 Oh, it would be just keen if they got him. Or we got him. Or he slipped on a bar of soap, or something.

But the focus on individual leaders is usually mistaken. Sure you try to kill them, but in some cases the focus is quite misleading and over-done.

One tiny bit of reassurance that not everyone has devolved to this shallow approach, esp. when it's clearly merely a small part of the fight - when Zarqawi was nixed, there was a palpable celebratory atmosphere and excitement among the brass (political and military) in-theater, and even the press.

But in a few corners of the operation, people shrugged, said "wahoo" sarcastically, and asked for the 1,000th time why the bridges into Baghdad from known car-bomb-making villages weren't closed in morning rush hour, why the US wasn't even trying to impose its will on the tiny, inept Sunni vermin who were causing 95% of the problem, etc.

I recall that giving me a temporary but amusing bit of hope that not all was lost.

Al-Baghdadi case might be different, a bigger deal, because of the odd nature of the ISIS problem. But these problems rarely are bas
ed on the malevolence or skill of one bad guy.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (+wjl1)

127 I do give the Crusades credit for at least getting Sicily and the important bits of Spain back.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (94ccS)

128 Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?

The original purpose of the Crusades - - to push back against invasions and incursions by the newly emerging Islamic empires rampaging into Christian areas -- was necessary and admirable.

The problem arose when various noblemen and politicians and tribes and sects started hijacking them for their own purposes. At various times, the western armies marching to Jerusalem began attacking other Christians they deemed their enemies, and/or committing pogroms against Jews, etc. Basically, the Crusades degenerated into squabbles and war-for war's-sake, and they lost sight of the goal -- to push back the spread of Islam. Not all crusades went haywire, but enough did. Even so, the main purpose of the Crusades was moral and just.

Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (DQ4Fv)

129 Yeah NASA had a waiver to keep using the foam insulation with CFCs but went green anyway. New insulation broke away more often on tank. And then the decision was made not to tell the crew there might be a problem because ground control did not beleive it could be fixed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (Wj6hd)

130 I refuse to submit to their name change. It will always be Burma to me,
Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (wI4ew)

Constantinople!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (ycWCI)

131 as it stood, mediaeval France (or what passed for it) could just about handle their own Languedoc. Frankish Palestine was never going to work in the long term
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:39 PM (94ccS)

To be fair, Billish or Tommish Palestine wouldn't work either.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (0mRoj)

132 al-Baghdadi? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (Xuv2G)

133 81

Don't worry. We can outfit you!

Posted by: Orange Pantsuits for Hillary! at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (VFhMt)

134 Constantinople!

No bodies business but the Turks!

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (O2RFr)

135 hah, it really was the architect sketch in real life. It would be funny if not for the, you know, innocents dying horribly.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (94ccS)

136 107 An air strike may have killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and up to 330 other fighters
.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (qJhUV)

-------------

That's a lot of gorp.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (Fmupd)

137 We have a propane absorption type fridge in our motorhome. Thing works great and sips the gas. Of course, it could blow up in a huge fireball at any time.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (l4aLi)

Heh. Absorption fridges use ammonia and hydrogen in their refrigerant cycle. Inside heavy steel tube, I might add. The propane is merely the heat source that drives the cycle.

You know, I really don't have a problem with using hydrocarbons as refrigerants in a compressor system. I run them in my car A/C's. Of course, a leak there gets vented outdoors.

In a home? Well, they are doing it wrong. First, no open switches with contacts that might arc. Thermostat should use mercury switch, or magnetic reed switch, both of which have their contacts inside a hermetically-sealed glass bulb. And every home appliance that uses hydrocarbon refrigerant should have incorporated within it an LEL detector, that constantly monitors the air, and sounds a warning if combustible gas is present in the ambient air near the appliance. These things exist, and are not even expensive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (XUcIQ)

138 Did you say Knives?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (QQ+il)

139 130 I refuse to submit to their name change. It will always be Burma to me,
Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (wI4ew)

Constantinople!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (ycWCI)

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (0mRoj)

140 Posted by: The Architect Sketch at June 16, 2017 02:39 PM (JO9+V)

Super dark but on-point reference, since the incompetent Mason architect (his rival) had built a central-pillar block of flats which he alleged (due to the use of modern materials) would be almost impervious to fire...

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (eXSOZ)

141 Quick, someone call Steve McQueen
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (493sH)

Towering Inferno?
That was Heston.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (z79tQ)

142
So after the Blitz it never occurred to anyone, in a place where there is more water than they now what to do with, that maybe sprinkler systems would be a good idea

======
Money. The Telegraph, if you believe any media outlet, said it would be 3,500 per flat.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (RQP0C)

143

Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (ycWCI)

Because the Crusaders didn't completely obliterate islam and what was left festered and gets deadly every two hundred years or so.

Trust us. We know.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson;Guru Gobind Singh;Pope Leo IV; Charles Martel; Don John of Austria; at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (oQQwD)

144 Hey, now. Enough talk about the Crusades, you white oppressors. Get off your high horses.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (PY9jH)

145 Rotating knives, yes.

Posted by: The Architect Sketch at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (JO9+V)

146 Whether they got Baghdadi or not, the key element here is that Russia is bombing the shit out of ISIS, which is a good thing.

Assholes in Congress need to figure out what is important. If we insist on maintaining a high level of faux outrage at our "enemies" the Russians, they aren't going to be as helpful.

Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (0+824)

147 Is it you intent to slaughter our tenants?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (QQ+il)

148 Iocane Powder

I smell nothing.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (jhqr1)

149 The Caliph is dead. Long live the Caliph.




Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (EX4Wr)

150 141 No,it was McQueen as the fire chief.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (rmVvL)

151 The scary part is that the Russians were aiming for Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (e8kgV)

152 Does that not fit in with your plans?

Posted by: The Architect Sketch at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (JO9+V)

153 147 Is it you intent to slaughter our tenants?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (QQ+il)

Not seeing it.

Posted by: Special Architect James Comey at June 16, 2017 02:44 PM (0mRoj)

154 "you sitting there on your spotty behinds squeezing blackheads - who don't give a tinker's cuss about a struggling artist! You excrement! You lousy hypocritical toadies!"

-more Architect Sketch

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 16, 2017 02:44 PM (eXSOZ)

155 150
141 No,it was McQueen as the fire chief.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (rmVvL)

that is correct. They have been playing that movie lately on some channel I forget...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 16, 2017 02:44 PM (8iiMU)

156 It will always be Burma to me,
Posted by: washrivergal


I paniced.

Posted by: DaveA at June 16, 2017 02:44 PM (FhXTo)

157
Bring Me The Head of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

I could make that movie.

Posted by: Zombie Sam Peckinpah at June 16, 2017 02:44 PM (XWkhW)

158 C'mere, time for a new motorcycle baby!!!!

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (UmSfZ)
________


I might have to re-think this, its a whole half hour later and I'm no closer to a new bike than I was before.
And my forearms are really tired.

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (UmSfZ)

159 That's a lot of gorp.
Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 02:41 PM (Fmupd)

A cornucopia of parts.

Some might even say plethora.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (ycWCI)

160 If al Baghdad isn't dead maybe he will show himself so that can be fixed.

The UN agency complaining about civilian deaths shows they are being bribed by the agents backing the terrorist.

Maybe Ashcroft and Mueller can prove what patriots they are by accepting payments from foreign governments to investigate or obstruct or manufacture evidence. As long as they get paid I don't think they care.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (cfHE9)

161 How the hell do you identify a heart? Does it have a serial number?

Posted by: TB at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (wNx6K)

162 Rush was just saying a report on the London inferno might have been worse because they were forced to use green products. Report was from a doctor engineer

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (Ot7+c)

163 They must've gathered to sing "Imagine"...
Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM


One of more famous works, coming soon to an ONT near you.

Posted by: Yoko at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (4lTw2)

164 Putin offering Comey asylum was pretty damn funny, I have to say. I wonder if Vlad is a lurker here..

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (a0IVu)

165 161 How the hell do you identify a heart? Does it have a serial number?
Posted by: TB at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (wNx6K)

Ours do.

Posted by: GeneCo at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (0mRoj)

166 Assholes in Congress need to figure out what is important. If we insist on maintaining a high level of faux outrage at our "enemies" the Russians, they aren't going to be as helpful.

I've seen reports that some Congresspeople have already been shocked to discover that nobody outside of DC gives a fuck about Russia, but they do want jobs.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 16, 2017 02:46 PM (3J/LN)

167 Just curious, how would you know if it's al Baghdadi's heart?

Posted by: JackStraw

It's black and hard as a piece of coal?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


How would you tell it from that of the average Moron? (Not 'Ettes. An 'Ette's heart has transitioned over to pure diamond.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 16, 2017 02:46 PM (AM1GF)

168 Aw crap. The Russkies missed al-Baghdadi, but killed Abe Vigoda.

R.I.P.

Posted by: Furious George at June 16, 2017 02:46 PM (j+dfT)

169 Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?
Posted by: Aetius451AD


The 1st was wholly warranted and went a little pear-shaped after conquering Syria and the rest.
Then the fighting among the new 'kingdoms' was pretty stupid. They needed a Geo. Washington to wrangle that crew. Oh and don't march through a fucking desert without a supply-train and, you know, water.

The 2nd lacked coherence and turned into a shitshow of giving the muslims easy wins.

The 3rd started out as a shitshow and only resulted in negotiating with salad-man.

The 4th was a fucking mess thanks to Constapated-ople suddenly deciding they didn't want to help out with their own fucking defense and then pissed all over the europeans. Fuck with an auroch, you're going to get a half-ton of beef up your ass.

The rest was just a miserable series of self-defeating jackassery.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2017 02:46 PM (udajc)

170 The UN agency complaining about civilian deaths shows they are being bribed by the agents backing the terrorist.

Yeah, well Russians don't have a lot of issues with "collateral damage".

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (qJhUV)

171 Quick, someone call Steve McQueen
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (493sH)

Towering Inferno?
That was Heston.


Oh, buddy. The old farts on this site are going to kill you. McQueen was the Fire Chief in Towering Inferno.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (jhqr1)

172 In 1867 the Emperor of Ethiopia sent a letter to Queen Victoria, asking her assistance in launching a Crusade to liberate Jerusalem from the Ottomans. The British government didn't even reply to that half-baked idea. The Emperor was so insulted he kidnapped & tortured the British consul, and his replacement that was sent to negotiate for his release. That was a line too far for the Brits, so they launched a punitive raid against Ethiopia to rescue the hostages.

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (7HtZB)

173 Burma Shave?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (p+Wdc)

If I had a nickel for every time somebody called my Stella a Burmese mountain dog, I could buy a bottle of bourbon soup to go with some ice croutons.

And if I had a nickel for every time it's been reported that al-Baghdadi is dead, I could buy another bottle of bourbon soup.

Posted by: JuJuBee at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (dargh)

174 146 Whether they got Baghdadi or not, the key element here is that Russia is bombing the shit out of ISIS, which is a good thing.

Assholes in Congress need to figure out what is important. If we insist on maintaining a high level of faux outrage at our "enemies" the Russians, they aren't going to be as helpful.
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (0+824)


I think the decision to let the Russians handle it was made long ago. But they can't openly admit it. Who's gonna trust the US if we're your ally one day and not the next?

So we helped kick ISIS out of Iraq and are helping our putative allies in Syria with speeches and UN resolutions.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (Xuv2G)

175 Tell Putin I'll have more flexibility after the election.

Posted by: Preezy 44 at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (bc2Lc)

176 Someone explain to me why the Crusades were wrong again?



They fucked up and didn't finish the job.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (t06LC)

177 Towering Inferno?
That was Heston.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (z79tQ)




Steve McQueen was the fire chief. Paul Newman, Robert Vaughn, William Holden, Faye Dunaway, Fred Astaire, Robert Wagner, Bobby Brady, but no Heston. It was just on cable last week.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (493sH)

178 Health officials in New York City are searching for anyone who had direct contact with Chuck Schumer who was found to have rabies.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (e8kgV)

179 I paniced.
I like that there are two MPFS references going on at once in this thread.

How the hell do you identify a heart? Does it have a serial number?

'They don't stamp hearts "property of Al-Baghdadi"! You couldn't stamp a huge imam!'

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (eXSOZ)

180 139 130 I refuse to submit to their name change. It will always be Burma to me,
Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:37 PM (wI4ew)

Constantinople!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:40 PM (ycWCI)

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:42 PM (0mRoj)


New... York?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (Xuv2G)

181 OT: article on Archaeology news links to a dig from Yinxu. Shang dynasty in China.

apparently they took slaves, worked them until no longer useful, then sacrificed them.

how very... Maya.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (94ccS)

182 Aw crap. The Russkies missed al-Baghdadi, but killed Abe Vigoda.

R.I.P.
Posted by: Furious George at June 16, 2017 02:46 PM (j+dfT)


Or Kenny.
Again.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (fceHP)

183 If I had been president at the time, I would have had Bin Laden's
polished skull encased in an ball of resin and asked Congress to make it
mandatory that each president had to take the oath of office with the
Orb of Vengeance in his left hand.



Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM


Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (p+Wdc)

184 Just left a message on the DOJ comment line: Muller must go

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (2+tI4)

185 181 OT: article on Archaeology news links to a dig from Yinxu. Shang dynasty in China.

apparently they took slaves, worked them until no longer useful, then sacrificed them.

how very... Maya.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (94ccS)

Someone explain to me how Christianity was a bad thing?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (ycWCI)

186 182 Aw crap. The Russkies missed al-Baghdadi, but killed Abe Vigoda.

R.I.P.
Posted by: Furious George at June 16, 2017 02:46 PM (j+dfT)

Or Kenny.
Again.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (fceHP)

Those bastards!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (0mRoj)

187 Can they target Ben Rhodes next?

Posted by: gewa76 at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (f4GSC)

188 Steve McQueen was the fire chief. Paul Newman,
Robert Vaughn, William Holden, Faye Dunaway, Fred Astaire, Robert
Wagner, Bobby Brady, but no Heston. It was just on cable last week.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (493sH)

Don't forget murderer OJ Simpson, as the security guard!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (8iiMU)

189 Someone explain to me how Christianity was a bad thing?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (ycWCI)

The Crusades!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (0mRoj)

190 Steve McQueen was the fire chief. Paul Newman, Robert Vaughn, William Holden, Faye Dunaway, Fred Astaire, Robert Wagner, Bobby Brady, but no Heston.

Maybe thinking of Earthquake?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (jhqr1)

191 Can they target Ben Rhodes next?

Posted by: gewa76 at June 16, 2017 02:49 PM (f4GSC)


That smug bastard should be asking me if I want fries with my burger.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (PY9jH)

192 165 161 How the hell do you identify a heart? Does it have a serial number?
Posted by: TB at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (wNx6K)

Ours do.

Posted by: GeneCo at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (0mRoj)

Pikers.


Posted by: Tyrell Corporation at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (eXSOZ)

193 Al Bad-daddy should quickly get a visa ( if not dead)to come to the US out of the reach of the Russians, nothing keeping him out of the country thanks to Leftist courts.

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2017 02:51 PM (Ot7+c)

194 Shemp is taking another day off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:51 PM (PY9jH)

195 "But the focus on individual leaders is usually mistaken."

Yamamoto was an exception to your rule. Might have been different in Vietnam if they could have killed Giap. Early death of Napoleon would have saved a large number of brave Frenchmen.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:51 PM (cfHE9)

196 I always thought that al-Baghdadi was a title, like 'Lord Marshall of Baghdad".

So you kill the lord Marshall and the number two guy gets promoted to the titled position, and every time you bomb the big guy, the next guy in line assumes the position.

Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (m9X4Y)

197 Charlton Heston played the fat lady on the Poseidon Adventure .

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (PMkYS)

198 How the hell do you identify a heart? Does it have a serial number?
Posted by: TB at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (wNx6K)

Ours do.

Posted by: GeneCo at June 16, 2017 02:45 PM (0mRoj)

Pikers.




Posted by: Tyrell Corporation at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (eXSOZ)

Ours usually reanimate and try and kill you.

Posted by: Umbrella Corp at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (t06LC)

199 The Crusades!
i like the Crusades, but they're no British in Malaya in the 50s.

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (eXSOZ)

200

One America News CEO Eagerly Courting Bill O'Reilly Variety

he's still out there

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (fceHP)

201 In Towering Inferno I think it was the son in law Richard Chamberlain cutting corners that caused the whole mess.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (rmVvL)

202 Maybe thinking of Earthquake?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (jhqr1)




Chuck was in Earthquake and Airport '75. A lot of the older actors ended up in those 70s disaster movies.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (493sH)

203 196 I always thought that al-Baghdadi was a title, like 'Lord Marshall of Baghdad".

So you kill the lord Marshall and the number two guy gets promoted to the titled position, and every time you bomb the big guy, the next guy in line assumes the position.
Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (m9X4Y)

Only one thing for it then.

Kill them all.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (0mRoj)

204 196 I always thought that al-Baghdadi was a title, like 'Lord Marshall of Baghdad".

So you kill the lord Marshall and the number two guy gets promoted to the titled position, and every time you bomb the big guy, the next guy in line assumes the position.
Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (m9X4Y)

Hmmm, this process can work if you repeat enough times.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (ycWCI)

205 Breaking News O/T: That nasty girl who sent text messages to her boyfriend encouraging him to commit suicide, was found guilty. Possible 20 year prison sentence. She's 17 years old now.

Posted by: JuJuBee at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (dargh)

206 116
Paltrow used to live there



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (fceHP)

Didn't she sell that place and use the proceeds to invest in that company that makes those "eggs" that get shoved up her hoo-haa?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (jxbfJ)

207 Aetius, I suppose in pre-Han China's case it's Confucianism that mellowed them out.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (94ccS)

208 150 141 No,it was McQueen as the fire chief.
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (rmVvL)

GTFO! It was Heston! Look, I'll IMDB it while I'm making my poi...
Sumbeach...

Guess I was wro, wro, mistaken.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (z79tQ)

209 194 Shemp is taking another day off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:51 PM (PY9jH)

Drug rehab?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (l4aLi)

210 apparently they took slaves, worked them until no longer useful, then sacrificed them.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM


How intriguing. Do you have additional details?

Asking for some comrades.

Posted by: Proggies at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (4lTw2)

211 Shemp is taking another day off.

Maybe he's the one Drudge says is drugged...

Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (O2RFr)

212 So you kill the lord Marshall and the number two guy gets promoted to the titled position, and every time you bomb the big guy, the next guy in line assumes the position.

Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (m9X4Y)


Kind Hearts and Coronets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (BWL+E)

213 Democrat Party operative of Union Country NJ has a hashtag #HuntRepublicanCongressmen. AFTER the Scalise shooting.

http://tinyurl.com/ycs8t5zr

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (7HtZB)

214 197 Charlton Heston played the fat lady on the Poseidon Adventure .
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (PMkYS)

With Brian Dennehy as the ship.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (ycWCI)

215 211 Shemp is taking another day off.

Maybe he's the one Drudge says is drugged...
Posted by: it's me donna at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (O2RFr)

One too many poppers.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (0mRoj)

216 Big-boobed Liz Claman is wearing a sleeveless white top on a golf course in WI.

Once again, her handlers forgot to tranquilize her.

She really needs to chill out, for a couple reasons.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (8iiMU)

217 @200 saw Bill O on OAN in an interview last night.

Would be a huge "get" for OAN. OAN is what Fox should be. They need to up their production values, I think that Bill O (who I can't stand, myself) might bring a production company that would help on that front.

Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (0+824)

218 OT but Alex Jones apparently secretly taped the entire Megyn Kelly interview (smart man); apparently she said things like 'I want to get steaks with you, I am obsessed with you'...if true, she is even more deranged than I thought.

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (a0IVu)

219 Focusing on leaders and money men is exactly the right thing to do in a 4th generation war. That's what keeps the other side going.

A good example is FARC in Columbia. Lasted as long as it did because the leaders didn't know how to do anything else and because they'd done so much bad stuff they knew they'd never be given amnesty.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (Xuv2G)

220 Pretty convinced Bin Laden was already dead and the raid was a complete failure. Notice how many navy Seals involved in that raid had untimely accidents.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (cfHE9)

221 Don't forget murderer OJ Simpson, as the security guard!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 16, 2017 02:50 PM (8iiMU)

Richard Chamberlin, Maureen McGovern, Dabny Coleman...

Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (ozqX4)

222 Tammy Bruce to MeAgain: when you do stunt programming, it might backfire on you.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (y7DUB)

223 "They were f-ups in the end, probably bringing about the fall of Byzantium,"

Uh yeah. When the Franks attacked Constantinople, that was bad.


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (EX4Wr)

224 Killing Hitler could have gone either way. If his successors had decided to continue they may have made better strategic decisions or they may have attempted to sue for peace.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (PMkYS)

225 Shep, honey, call me.

Posted by: Laurie Dhue at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (l4aLi)

226 Breaking News O/T: That nasty girl who sent text messages to her boyfriend encouraging him to commit suicide, was found guilty. Possible 20 year prison sentence. She's 17 years old now.


What a waste of time and money.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (QQ+il)

227 218 OT but Alex Jones apparently secretly taped the entire Megyn Kelly interview (smart man); apparently she said things like 'I want to get steaks with you, I am obsessed with you'...if true, she is even more deranged than I thought.
Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (a0IVu)

Everyone should do this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (ycWCI)

228 "OEMs in the refrigeration industry have been looking at propane as a long term replacement due to its low GWP."

I gar-on-tee you that there are new non-hydrocarbon refrigerants coming which are expensive as all get out, elaborately defensively patented so that they'll stay expensive for decades, and mandated by government as "green", with the manufacturers of said patented refrigerants keeping an army of lobbyists on staff to ensure no one messes with their comfortable setup.

Cynical? Moi?

Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (ujwCG)

229 226 Breaking News O/T: That nasty girl who sent text messages to her boyfriend encouraging him to commit suicide, was found guilty. Possible 20 year prison sentence. She's 17 years old now.


What a waste of time and money.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (QQ+il)

How was this manslaughter?

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:56 PM (2+tI4)

230 223 "They were f-ups in the end, probably bringing about the fall of Byzantium,"

Uh yeah. When the Franks attacked Constantinople, that was bad.


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (EX4Wr)

The Beans were worse.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:56 PM (0mRoj)

231 224 Killing Hitler could have gone either way. If his successors had decided to continue they may have made better strategic decisions or they may have attempted to sue for peace.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (PMkYS)

That was the plot of "The Dirty Dozen 2" - the Army sends them behind the lines to stop an assassination plot against Hitler, because his successor would have been a much more capable leader.

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 02:57 PM (7HtZB)

232 Well, if you know where he is, and you drop a nuke...then, pretty sure right?
Works for me.

Posted by: Paladin at June 16, 2017 02:57 PM (WujO7)

233 Killing Hitler could have gone either way. If his successors had decided to continue they may have made better strategic decisions or they may have attempted to sue for peace.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (PMkYS)


I was watching a documentary about Hitler the other night. In about 1941-42 the Nazis looked unstoppable. I think a big part of the reason the allies won was Hitler.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2017 02:57 PM (t06LC)

234 181 OT: article on Archaeology news links to a dig from Yinxu. Shang dynasty in China.

apparently they took slaves, worked them until no longer useful, then sacrificed them.

how very... Maya.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:48 PM (94ccS)

So they were worked near to death in the fortune cookie mines?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at June 16, 2017 02:57 PM (RD7QR)

235 224 Killing Hitler could have gone either way. If his successors had decided to continue they may have made better strategic decisions or they may have attempted to sue for peace.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (PMkYS)

Wait you're saying Von Mannstein and/or Rommel might have made better tactical and strategic decisions than Hitler?!?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:57 PM (ycWCI)

236 230.

Bean & Germ must never mate!
It is written on this grape.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 16, 2017 02:58 PM (TwwWO)

237 I gar-on-tee you that there are new non-hydrocarbon refrigerants coming which are expensive as all get out, elaborately defensively patented so that they'll stay expensive for decades, and mandated by government as "green", with the manufacturers of said patented refrigerants keeping an army of lobbyists on staff to ensure no one messes with their comfortable setup.

Cynical? Moi?

Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (ujwCG)

Exactly. And when the patents expire, they will suddenly be found to cause ozone holes, or global warming, or the heartbreak of psoriasis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:58 PM (XUcIQ)

238 So our blog chief wants Al Baghdadi's head or heart. I'm not that particular. So long as he has been disassembled into various spare parts, I'll call that a good start. He was one loathesome SOB.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 16, 2017 02:58 PM (Sda6L)

239 "Regarding the tower of london, probably started as a 'jihadi work accident' and the rest just went along for the ride."

--------

That was my first thought when the news came out particularly when it appeared that most of the residents were Muslim.

Posted by: Decaf at June 16, 2017 02:59 PM (qYGdC)

240 Shemp is taking another day off.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:51 PM (PY9jH)

Drug rehab?
Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (l4aLi)



Spackling patch up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:59 PM (fceHP)

241 That nasty girl who sent text messages to her boyfriend encouraging him to commit suicide, was found guilty. Possible 20 year prison sentence. She's 17 years old now.


What a waste of time and money.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (QQ+il)

How was this manslaughter?
Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:56 PM (2+tI4)


Did she have some Legal Aid dipshit defending her?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 16, 2017 03:00 PM (y7DUB)

242 Russia: We May Have Killed al-Baghdadi, Maybe
Well, yeah, if you drop a bomb and there's a bunch of wreckage, sure, you might have killed any number of people.

Bring me his head or his heart so I can tell for sure.


In order to positively identify him, we need a DNA sample. I volunteer to collect this sample.

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at June 16, 2017 03:00 PM (xAvrH)

243 Rommel might have made better tactical and strategic decisions


I have no doubts Rommel would have, and that in the end, we'd still have prevailed.
Caveat.. at a much larger loss of life on both sides.

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:00 PM (UmSfZ)

244 "They were f-ups in the end, probably bringing about the fall of Byzantium,"

Uh yeah. When the Franks attacked Constantinople, that was bad.


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 02:54 PM (EX4Wr)

The Beans were worse.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:56 PM (0mRoj)



A big part of that Crusade were the Venetians. They were rather blind to what they were supposed to be there for

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:00 PM (493sH)

245 How was this manslaughter?
Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:56 PM (2+tI4)


she opted for no jury
the judge had a long explanation of how he came to his conclusion

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:01 PM (fceHP)

246 How was this manslaughter?
Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:56 PM (2+tI4)


No shit. The progressives were just telling us assisted suicide is all the rage.

Posted by: Roy at June 16, 2017 03:01 PM (7n4KQ)

247 I think a big part of the reason the allies won was Hitler George S. Patton.

FIFY

Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 03:01 PM (EX4Wr)

248 Killing Hitler could have gone either way. If his successors had decided to continue they may have made better strategic decisions or they may have attempted to sue for peace.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (PMkYS)


We couldn't give up unconditional surrender because Stalin would have gone nuts. A Wehrmacht free of Hitler's stupid stand-and-die demands would be even more formidable in defense. Not good for the good guys.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 03:01 PM (BWL+E)

249 "apparently [MeAgain] said things like 'I want to get steaks with you, I am obsessed with you'"

And there was her first introduction to Putin, where she showed up wearing ridiculously high FMPs, and a skirt slit to mid-thigh. A call girl would have been embarrassed by those wardrobe choices.

Where her first words to Putin (described as having been "purred" instead of conversationally spoken) were "Vladimir, Vladimir," rather than speaking to him with his last name and honorific.

What a piece of work that woman is.

It's doubly hilarious in that Putin was completely unimpressed by MeAgain, and proceeded to alternately ignore her or berate her in his interview responses.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 03:02 PM (ujwCG)

250 she opted for no jury
the judge had a long explanation of how he came to his conclusion
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:01 PM (

Maybe we can get this judge and DA to convict the left for attempted murder.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 16, 2017 03:02 PM (Ri/rl)

251 "I want to get steaks with you"

wtf? this is heading into Glenn Close territory

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 03:02 PM (94ccS)

252 Oh, I smell a "Religion of Piece yer neck" rat on this London High Rise fire. Sure as goat meat, there are sharp cloven hoofs afoot .....film at 11ey, or Burka militoast pan fires racing towards the South Docks.

God Save The Queen

Posted by: Nightwatch at June 16, 2017 03:02 PM (kFkpX)

253 Rule number 1: Always choose a jury.

Rule number 2: Never, ever forget rule number 1.


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 03:03 PM (EX4Wr)

254 247.

Pfft! Stalin, that evil butcher, deserves a lot of the credit for the victory, and blame for the appalling loss of life.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 16, 2017 03:03 PM (TwwWO)

255 I wonder if Paulie Ryan supports Trumps Coober actions?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 03:03 PM (l4aLi)

256 249, Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 03:02 PM (ujwCG)

She called Putin by his first name??? Was she thinking he would fall all over himself trying to impress her? Dude has better taste in women.

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 03:03 PM (a0IVu)

257 I always thought that al-Baghdadi was a title, like 'Lord Marshall of Baghdad".

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is literally a nom de guerre. "Abu" means "father". The guy who founded Fatah called himself "Abu Nidal", or "The father of the struggle".

The prefix "al" just means "of" or "from". Like "von" in German.

So Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi literally means "The father of Bakr of Baghdad". Abu Bakr is a historical figure in Islam.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (Xuv2G)

258 the judge had a long explanation of how he came to his conclusion

Short version. The kid got out of the truck after it was filled with carbon monoxide and texted her he was having second thoughts and she told him to get back in and finish it.
She's a vile cunt. Fuck her.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (qJhUV)

259 back in April/early May, when it was clear that Raqqa was going to fall, three were already stories about ISIS leaders getting out.

I agree with you, ace. No body=No credence. Could be true, but may very well not be.

Posted by: Venezuela at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (CPk08)

260
I have no doubts Rommel would have, and that in the end, we'd still have prevailed.
Caveat.. at a much larger loss of life on both sides.


Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:00 PM (UmSfZ)


I don't know. If Hitler is killed prior to Barbarossa, and England is conquered first, then the Soviets are steamrolled by a Nazi army fighting a single war, I'm not sure the allies (whoever is left) wins. Of course, if Hitler doesn't declare war after Pearl Harbor, what does that do? Leave England on an island?

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (t06LC)

261 The prefix "al" just means "of" or "from". Like "von" in German.


What does Sharpton mean?

Posted by: Roy at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (7n4KQ)

262
There's a wedding in Syria where there the dessert service has suddenly been cancelled.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM


It's a dessert desert.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (IqV8l)

263 How was this manslaughter?
Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:56 PM (2+tI4)

Ruled involuntary manslaughter because of her wanton and reckless conduct. The boyfriend had gotten out of the truck when it was filling with carbon monoxide, and she told him to "get back in".

The judge found those three words to be at her directive, wanton and reckless conduct. All of her urging to the boyfriend to kill himself earlier , before he actually started to attempt it, the judge discounted.

Yes, he made the decision to get back in, but if another human being is in physical , emotional, or mental distress, and you are aware they are in further danger, you have a duty under the law to seek help for that person. You can't legally tramp on someone's fingers who are holding onto a ledge, or provide a drunk at the bar additional alcohol until he falls off the stool and dies.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (ozqX4)

264 I played Patton in Brass Target. Made everyone forget about George C. Scott.

Posted by: George Kennedy at June 16, 2017 03:05 PM (bc2Lc)

265
I was watching a documentary about Hitler the other night. In about 1941-42 the Nazis looked unstoppable. I think a big part of the reason the allies won was Hitler.
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2017 02:57 PM (t06LC)

------------

Two things insured Hitler's downfall. Invading Russia and declaring war on the US.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 03:05 PM (Fmupd)

266 Well, time to get on with my day. I am now, once again, without immediate prospects of work. I had done two wells of a four-well program, and was expecting to start the next in a day or so. Got word that the client has decided to dispense with using a wellsite geologist altogether, as a cost-saving measure. That sort of thinking will bite them in the ass sooner or later, it always does, but in the meantime I am back to waiting for some other contract to materialize.

At least I get to enjoy the nice Summer weather at home.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:05 PM (XUcIQ)

267 that poor girl who dindu nuffins would probably graduate into becoming a nurse and tampering with patients' IV drips.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 03:06 PM (94ccS)

268 264 I played Patton in Brass Target. Made everyone forget about George C. Scott.
Posted by: George Kennedy at June 16, 2017 03:05 PM (bc2Lc)

Sophia Loren made me forget all about you!

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 03:06 PM (7HtZB)

269 Wow. Harris Faulkner just asked the Question of the Year of Chris Wallace:

"Why has Robert Mueller stacked the deck with Hillary Clinton supporters?"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 03:06 PM (PY9jH)

270 I wonder if Paulie Ryan supports Trumps Coober actions?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 03:03 PM (l4aLi)


Paulie has a cold. He's had a lot of colds this winter.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 03:06 PM (BWL+E)

271
I agree with you, ace. No body=No credence.

No bad moon on the rise.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (IqV8l)

272 256. In that ditz's defense - she might have just bungled the patronymic. Formally, he'd be Vladimir Vladimirovich.

But, yeah, the Grey Cardinal made her look like the ignorant, low-class airhead she is. It was a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (TwwWO)

273
I don't know. If Hitler is killed prior to Barbarossa, and England is conquered first, then the Soviets are steamrolled by a Nazi army fighting a single war, I'm not sure the allies (whoever is left) wins. Of course, if Hitler doesn't declare war after Pearl Harbor, what does that do? Leave England on an island?
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (t06LC)

Barbarossa would have succeeded most likely in cutting the heart out of the Soviet union if it had started on time. It still came damn close. Horseshoes. Hand grenades.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (ycWCI)

274 196 I always thought that al-Baghdadi was a title, like 'Lord Marshall of Baghdad".

So you kill the lord Marshall and the number two guy gets promoted to the titled position, and every time you bomb the big guy, the next guy in line assumes the position.

Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:52 PM (m9X4Y)

"al-Baghdadi" just means "From Baghdad".

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (9TK8E)

275 They convicted the Rutgers guy of contributing to his gay roommates suicide . Can't remember the exact charge. I think it was overturned on appeal . Don't know if he was retried or not.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (PMkYS)

276 If Hitler is killed prior to Barbarossa, and England is conquered first

I would think the "at what time?" variable is in play.
I was putting Rommel in charge after they were fighting on two fronts already

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (UmSfZ)

277 We couldn't give up unconditional surrender because Stalin would have gone nuts. A Wehrmacht free of Hitler's stupid stand-and-die demands would be even more formidable in defense. Not good for the good guys.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 03:01 PM (BWL+E)



On the eastern front there weren't good guys. A more fluid defense and counter attacks as von Manstein pulled off right after Stalingrad to retake Kharkov would have slaughtered a lot more commies. Maybe prevented them from taking over eastern Europe. Maybe

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:08 PM (493sH)

278 224 Killing Hitler could have gone either way. If his successors had decided to continue they may have made better strategic decisions or they may have attempted to sue for peace.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:55 PM (PMkYS)


The plotters in the Stauffenberg bomb incident had planned to sue for peace as soon as Hitler hit room temperature.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:08 PM (Xuv2G)

279 I wonder if Paulie Ryan supports Trumps Coober actions?
Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 03:03 PM (l4aLi)


Standing for freedom for an oppressed people is not who we are.

Posted by: Private Eddie Munster at June 16, 2017 03:08 PM (y7DUB)

280 Russia: We May Have Killed al-Baghdadi, Maybe
I may also have killed al-Baghdadi. But I doubt it. Because I'm a global warming denier.

Posted by: t-bird at June 16, 2017 03:08 PM (2z74n)

281 Some Arabs refer to Trump as "Abu-Ivanka al-Amriki", "Father of Ivanka, from America".

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 03:08 PM (9TK8E)

282 267 that poor girl who dindu nuffins would probably graduate into becoming a nurse and tampering with patients' IV drips.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 03:06 PM (94ccS)


or working in HR.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 03:08 PM (CPk08)

283 Rommel might have made better tactical and strategic decisions


Like peace with the West to stop the Soviets.

Posted by: DaveA at June 16, 2017 03:09 PM (FhXTo)

284

pics?



Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:10 PM (C52a9)

285 Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (qJhUV)

She IS a vile cunt, and that's an insult to vile cunts everywhere, but she didn't shove him back in the truck and bar the door to prevent him from getting out.

The kid killed himself.

This sets a scary precedent.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:10 PM (Y9+RI)

286 Short version. The kid got out of the truck after it
was filled with carbon monoxide and texted her he was having second
thoughts and she told him to get back in and finish it.
She's a vile cunt. Fuck her.


Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (qJhUV)

She may be a vile cunt and an execrable human being... but she is not guilty of killing him (involuntarily or voluntarily).

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:11 PM (SrkNc)

287 I wonder if Paulie Ryan supports Trumps Coober actions?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 03:03 PM (l4aLi)

Paulie has a cold. He's had a lot of colds this winter.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 03:06 PM (BWL+E)

I am giving Rubio credit. For all the really nasty things Trump said about him during the campaign, such as calling him "Little Marco" questions about his dad and Oswald, etc. Rubio was on fire with Trump praise for the rollback of the Obama "let's send Castro a lot of money" agreement when he introduced Trump in Miami today. Literally, it's like he found out last week that Trump is actually his long lost uncle who saved his family from Castro. His speech geared to the people of Cuba was great, including how he first gave it in English, then reiterated it in perfect Spanish.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2017 03:11 PM (ozqX4)

288 276 If Hitler is killed prior to Barbarossa, and England is conquered first

I would think the "at what time?" variable is in play.
I was putting Rommel in charge after they were fighting on two fronts already


Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (UmSfZ)


I think that is key. Killing Hitler with Germany in say March of 41 with only a war in the west and uneasy peace in the east with no US involvement = Nazi victory.

After the two front war began and the US was drawn in, the die was cast.

Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2017 03:11 PM (t06LC)

289 You can't legally tramp on someone's fingers who are holding onto a ledge,

Unless you've had enough of their "Taxi" jokes.

Posted by: The ShatBoot at June 16, 2017 03:12 PM (FhXTo)

290 On the eastern front there weren't good guys.

True enough but I was thinking more of the US and UK, constantly flummoxed by the German's tactical tenacity. Only so much you can ask of citizen-soldiers from.a democracy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 03:12 PM (BWL+E)

291
One America News CEO Eagerly Courting Bill O'Reilly Variety



he's still out there
===


NO!
Please, God. No.

Posted by: the folks at June 16, 2017 03:12 PM (C52a9)

292 "When discussing History, hypotheticals are both irrelevant and nonsense."

-Phyllis Brown, my classmate in AP U.S. History in 1971-72 school year.

All this shit about "what if" is BULLSHIT!


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 03:12 PM (EX4Wr)

293 The Germans should have built long range bombers to attack the Russian factories.

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 03:13 PM (7HtZB)

294 This sets a scary precedent.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:10 PM (Y9+RI)
_____


Nurse Ratchet: Look it's cancer and your on government run health care. We can't afford to cure you at your age, so might as well get back in the damn shower.

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:13 PM (UmSfZ)

295 crap, Scalise still critical

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:13 PM (fceHP)

296 If I had been president at the time, I would have had Bin Laden's polished skull encased in an ball of resin and asked Congress to make it mandatory that each president had to take the oath of office with the Orb of Vengeance in his left hand.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (QQ+il)


Still fucking awesome. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (aMlLZ)

297 She may be a vile cunt and an execrable human being... but she is not guilty of killing him (involuntarily or voluntarily).

The judge thought so.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (qJhUV)

298 295
crap, Scalise still critical

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:13 PM (fceHP)
I thought they said he had improved?

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (a0IVu)

299 She may be a vile cunt and an execrable human being... but she is not guilty of killing him (involuntarily or voluntarily).

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:11 PM (SrkNc)

Well, it's a tough question. Thing is, she knew for fact that he was in the actual process of killing himself, not only did she not do anything to prevent it, like calling 911, for instance, but she actively encouraged him in it, and berated him when he got cold feet.

A bullet in the head is too good for her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (XUcIQ)

300 The Germans should have built long range bombers to attack the Russian factories.

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 03:13 PM (7HtZB)



From a military point of view I don't know why they wasted the V1s and V2s on England. Was there any reason they weren't used on Soviet formations? Not enough precision targeting?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (493sH)

301 So words are now considered to be manslaughter.

Any chance this gets turned over on appeal?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (Y9+RI)

302 All the Germans had to do to win that war was not attack Russia and concentrate their efforts on British resources in the Med and North Africa.

Plus, they should have told the Japanese to take a hike.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (Xuv2G)

303 What a piece of work that woman is.

It's doubly hilarious in that Putin was completely unimpressed by MeAgain, and proceeded to alternately ignore her or berate her in his interview responses.
Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 03:02 PM (ujwCG)


The speed with which she's flushed a good career away is impressive. Don't get me wrong, her net worth is still huge by any standard; but her titanic dumbfuck ego has clobbered her future earnings.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (y7DUB)

304 This sets a scary precedent.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:10 PM (Y9+RI)j

I disagree. You cannot have a civilized society in which people feel free to urge someone to kill or injure themselves when they are in a mentally fragile state. Where does it end? How about adults encouraging children to jump off of buildings, set themselves on fire, give them drugs, etc.

They bear NO responsibility for their assistance in the injury to either a child or mentally unstable person, neither of whom has the rationale capability and understanding at that point in time to fully judge what they are doing?

Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (ozqX4)

305 Rule number 1: Always choose a jury.

Rule number 2: Never, ever forget rule number 1.

Posted by: JAS


I seem to recall several ex-BPD cops who might dispute that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (AM1GF)

306 Germany needed more long range commerce raiders, they only had a few - and they sank a shit load of stuff.

Posted by: Jean at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (9TU00)

307 Jeebus.....Costco 177.5 put options expiring today closed yesterday at 4 bucks. Today they're trading at over $1,000 bucks.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:16 PM (Jcg9Q)

308 She may be a vile cunt and an execrable human being... but she is not guilty of killing him (involuntarily or voluntarily).

The judge thought so.


Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (qJhUV)

This judge like most seems to base his decisions on feelz... she is a shitty person but she did not put this guy in the truck where he chose to commit suicide.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:16 PM (SrkNc)

309 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (XUc

I could accept it a little better if it was simply that she didn't call 911. Maybe I should just pretend that's what it was.

And yes, a bullet is too good for her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:16 PM (Y9+RI)

310 She IS a vile cunt, and that's an insult to vile
cunts everywhere, but she didn't shove him back in the truck and bar the
door to prevent him from getting out.



The kid killed himself.



This sets a scary precedent.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
===

Yeah.

I wouldn't think that this would get past appeals.

If I hadn't lived through the last 20 or so years of royal jurisprudence...

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:16 PM (C52a9)

311 So words are now considered to be manslaughter.



Any chance this gets turned over on appeal?

Well, this is Massachusetts, so Magic Eight Ball would say "entirely possible".

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:16 PM (qJhUV)

312 So words are now considered to be manslaughter.

Any chance this gets turned over on appeal?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor


I would hope so. As much a piece of work as that chick is, this was a ridiculously bad verdict.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 16, 2017 03:17 PM (AM1GF)

313 Well, it's a tough question. Thing is, she knew for fact that he was in the actual process of killing himself, not only did she not do anything to prevent it, like calling 911, for instance, but she actively encouraged him in it, and berated him when he got cold feet.

A bullet in the head is too good for her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (XUcIQ)

She was there watching? Whoa. Guilty

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:17 PM (2+tI4)

314
Rule number 1: Always choose a jury.

===

Google JNOV.

Yeah. They can do that.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:17 PM (C52a9)

315
From a military point of view I don't know why they wasted the V1s and V2s on England. Was there any reason they weren't used on Soviet formations? Not enough precision targeting?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (493sH)


They thought the Brits were really, really close to suing for peace, and just a little more hardship would prompt them to vote out Churchill and bring in someone who would end the war. Hell, they were so sure the Brits were done after Dunkirk they didn't even have a plan for continuing the war. Not for another six weeks.

I'd always wondered why Hitler attacked Russia without finishing off the Brits first. The answer is he thought he had.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:18 PM (Xuv2G)

316 crap, Scalise still critical

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:13 PM (fceHP)
I thought they said he had improved?
Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (a0IVu)


doctors talking now, live presser

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:18 PM (fceHP)

317 Of course, if Hitler doesn't declare war after Pearl Harbor, what does that do?

Or Hitler decided to stand with the more Aryan nation and declares war on Japan!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:18 PM (QQ+il)

318 If I hadn't lived through the last 20 or so years of royal jurisprudence...
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:16 PM (C52a9)


Yep.





Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:18 PM (Y9+RI)

319 I am giving Rubio credit. For all the really nasty things Trump said about him during the campaign, such as calling him "Little Marco" questions about his dad and Oswald, etc. Rubio was on fire with Trump praise for the rollback of the Obama "let's send Castro a lot of money" agreement when he introduced Trump in Miami today. Literally, it's like he found out last week that Trump is actually his long lost uncle who saved his family from Castro. His speech geared to the people of Cuba was great, including how he first gave it in English, then reiterated it in perfect Spanish.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2017 03:11 PM (ozqX4)


Right in obama's nads with golfshoes this episode was.

I'm pretty sure right after some manboy Obama aid came into Obama's office muttering Muad'dib...muad'dib...

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 16, 2017 03:18 PM (aMlLZ)

320 I heard this earlier, and kept thinking, "There was a terrorist called Al Big-Daddy???"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (LeI1X)

321 We're essentially facing an existential threat with Islamic jihad, and Russia could be a powerful ally.

But unless we have a President that's constantly poking Putin in the eye, it's a foreign policy failure and grounds for impeachment.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (rEapd)

322 Well, it's a tough question. Thing is, she knew
for fact that he was in the actual process of killing himself, not only
did she not do anything to prevent it, like calling 911, for instance,
but she actively encouraged him in it, and berated him when he got cold
feet.



A bullet in the head is too good for her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM (XUcIQ)

Again, no dispute she is a terrible person who should be shunned by society. She did not kill this guy though. He was free to ignore her words because that is all they were... words.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (SrkNc)

323 Rule number 1: Always choose a jury.

Nope. Not in Mass. I thought for sure she was home free when she went with a bench trial.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (qJhUV)

324

they haven't removed the "hundreds of bullet fragments" from scalise yet

too dangerous

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (fceHP)

325 319. Heh....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (TwwWO)

326 Amazon Will Buy Whole Foods for $13.7 Billion

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 03:20 PM (e8kgV)

327
The judge thought so.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:14 PM


It's a tax.

Posted by: JUDGE John Roberts at June 16, 2017 03:20 PM (IqV8l)

328 She was there watching? Whoa. Guilty

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:17 PM (2+tI4)

I don't think she was on the scene, but she and dead kid were texting back and forth, and he told her was offing himself, and how, and she was encouraging him in it, instead of trying to save his life. Point is, she knew, in real time, that he was trying to kill himself, and failed to try to stop it. That's so fucking cold that liquid hydrogen would shiver.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:20 PM (XUcIQ)

329 293 The Germans should have built long range bombers to attack the Russian factories.
Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 03:13 PM (7HtZB)

*****

Well they were able to reach Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2017 03:20 PM (0tfLf)

330 She was there watching? Whoa. Guilty

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:17 PM (2+tI4)
No she wasn't there watching... even if she was though, it still wouldn't be manslaughter.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (SrkNc)

331 She was there watching? Whoa. Guilty
Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:17 PM (2+tI4)


No, she was on the phone with him.

Look, I am not saying that in the grand scheme of things I am sorry the bitch will be put away, but I think it's a horrifying verdict.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (Y9+RI)

332 320. No, that's Milo's Arabic name for the God Emperor.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (TwwWO)

333 326 Amazon Will Buy Whole Foods for $13.7 Billion

Can you say antitrust? Sure you can.

Posted by: FTC at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (l4aLi)

334 320 I heard this earlier, and kept thinking, "There was a terrorist called Al Big-Daddy???"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (LeI1X)


he also had had a rock group.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'now with more rage' at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (WS19L)

335 too dangerous

Posted by: artisanal 'ette
==

That's awful.

The femoral artery , and the dirty mess of infection that goes with lower gut puncture.

Lord , please remember Steve Scalise.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (C52a9)

336 on Michelle Carter case

The judge focused his ruling on three words Carter said to the 18-year-old Roy after he climbed out of his truck as it was filling with toxic gas and told her he was scared.

"Get back in," Carter told Roy, according to a friend who testified that Carter described the conversation in a text message to her about a month after Roy died.

The judge said those words constituted "wanton and reckless conduct."

He said Carter, then 17, had a duty to call someone for help when she knew Roy was attempting suicide. Yet she did not call the police or Roy's family, he noted.

"She did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck," the judge said.


abc

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:22 PM (fceHP)

337 I don't think she was on the scene, but she and dead kid were texting back and forth, and he told her was offing himself, and how, and she was encouraging him in it, instead of trying to save his life. Point is, she knew, in real time, that he was trying to kill himself, and failed to try to stop it. That's so fucking cold that liquid hydrogen would shiver.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:20 PM (XUcIQ)

So she 100% knew it was real. That is terrible, should have called. I'd have called 911 even if I knew it was fake

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:22 PM (2+tI4)

338
Posted by: Jen the original
===

Yay!


(Jen's here!)

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:22 PM (C52a9)

339 Lord , please remember Steve Scalise.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (C52a9)


This.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:23 PM (SrkNc)

340

In the end, the judge found that it was not the coercive text messages that caused Roy's death. It was Carter's insistence that he get back in the truck.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:23 PM (fceHP)

341 He said Carter, then 17, had a duty to call someone for help when she knew Roy was attempting suicide. Yet she did not call the police or Roy's family, he noted.

A duty morally, maybe. But legally?

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:23 PM (Xuv2G)

342 In a country where you can't execute a 17 year old for cold blooded torture murder the USSC is not going to let you send a 17 year old to prison for 20 years for texting on the phone.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:23 PM (QQ+il)

343 He said Carter, then 17, had a duty to call someone for help when she knew Roy was attempting suicide.

Did he cite a statute?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:24 PM (QQ+il)

344 People in a suicidal state of mind are not like you and me. I don't know if a "rational adult" standard can be applied to a suicidal person.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at June 16, 2017 03:24 PM (RD7QR)

345 He said Carter, then 17, had a duty to call
someone for help when she knew Roy was attempting suicide. Yet she did
not call the police or Roy's family, he noted.



"She did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck," the judge said.



abc

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:22 PM (fceHP)

There is no duty to help. This is a dangerous precedent.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:24 PM (SrkNc)

346 Dr. Jack Sava on Scalise

"I think that an excellent recovery is a good possibility."

odd statement, but positive

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (fceHP)

347 Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (ozqX4)

+++

Couldn't agree more.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (wI4ew)

348 Amazon Will Buy Whole Foods for $13.7 Billion

Can you say antitrust? Sure you can.


Posted by: FTC at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (l4aLi)

How does an online seller of books and other whatnot buying one of hundreds of grocery chains fall afoul of anti-trust laws???

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (Jcg9Q)

349 Again, no dispute she is a terrible person who should be shunned by society. She did not kill this guy though. He was free to ignore her words because that is all they were... words.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM (SrkNc)

Diminished capacity, however does it work? But I can see manslaughter, because she knew he was killing himself, and failed to make any effort whatsoever to prevent it.

9-1-1 And the bitch didn't.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (XUcIQ)

350 Amazon Will Buy Whole Foods for $13.7 Billion

Can you say antitrust? Sure you can.
Posted by: FTC

______
If I were Trump, I would do it as a shot across the bow to these left-wing oligarchs that are attempting a coup.

Let them litigate it with the DOJ for a while and get billions wiped out in stock value in the meantime.

I bet the Washington Post would be a bit more careful with their anonymous sources.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (rEapd)

351 In the end, the judge found that it was not the coercive text messages that caused Roy's death. It was Carter's insistence that he get back in the truck.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:23 PM (fceHP)

Ultimately, it was the duty to warn or report that is the basis of the crime, I assume. As I can't see a "penalty" for not following the "direction".

This is the case in most states, if you see an accident or someone in physical harm, you have a duty to make the 911 call. Only in Vermont is there a duty to intervene

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (2+tI4)

352 He said Carter, then 17, had a duty to call someone for help when she knew Roy was attempting suicide.
===

So anytime someone says "I'm killing myself" anyone that receives that message has a duty to act?

Does this apply to other venues?


Blog comments for example?

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (C52a9)

353 346 Dr. Jack Sava on Scalise

"I think that an excellent recovery is a good possibility."

odd statement, but positive
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (fceHP)p/i]

Doctors are always cagey like that. Too many variables out of their control.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (Xuv2G)

354 "Germany needed more long range commerce raiders, they only had a few - and they sank a shit load of stuff."

The surface commerce raiders would ultimately have been rolled up and finished off in just the same way that Doenitz's U-boat forces were.

That's interesting alternative history right there: Doenitz relieved early on and replaced by any of several capable subordinate officers.

It would have been hard for such a successor not to immediately realize the obvious truth which had been pounding loudly and fruitlessly on Doenitz's office door: that his Enigma fleet comms were compromised and he was constantly ordering his subs into ASW traps.

War still is lost by Germany in the end but at far greater cost to the Allied maritime effort.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (ujwCG)

355 Or Hitler decided to stand with the more Aryan nation and declares war on Japan!
Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:18 PM (QQ+il)



Whoa.. like two fighting and bloody brothers suddenly turning on a third person?
Awkward!

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (UmSfZ)

356
307 Jeebus.....Costco 177.5 put options expiring today closed yesterday at 4 bucks. Today they're trading at over $1,000 bucks.
Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:16 PM (Jcg9Q)

So, do I take the truck and stock up on TP at Costco?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (e1mEI)

357 There is no duty to help. This is a dangerous precedent.


Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:24 PM (SrkNc)

It's gonna happen a lot during CW2.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (Jcg9Q)

358 Amazon Will Buy Whole Foods for $13.7 Billion

Can you say antitrust? Sure you can.


Posted by: FTC at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (l4aLi)

How does an online seller of books and other whatnot buying one of hundreds of grocery chains fall afoul of anti-trust laws???

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (Jcg9Q)



Let's find out, shall we and really turn the screws on Bezos

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:27 PM (493sH)

359 So, do I take the truck and stock up on TP at Costco?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (e1mEI)

I wouldn't, unless you just left Taco Bell.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:27 PM (Jcg9Q)

360 The femoral artery , and the dirty mess of infection that goes with lower gut puncture.

Lord , please remember Steve Scalise.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:21 PM (C52a9)


yeah, he said infection a risk

but if he recovers, I guess he said he can walk again

less of a risk of dying, but that told me that anything can still happen

such a tragedy

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:27 PM (fceHP)

361 Oh this is lovely. The WNBA Seattle Storm is planning a "Stand With Planned Parenthood" night.

http://tinyurl.com/y729kqxv

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 03:27 PM (7HtZB)

362 The Ruskies probably get better intel whilst their interrogees can't count no more on their fingers and toes.

Posted by: very depressed oddnot at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (g1MTt)

363 Posted by: Jen the original at June 16, 2017 03:15 PM (ozqX4)

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

We now have a legal precedent of speech causing manslaughter.

If words are given that much credence, I can just about imagine how it goes from here. Ain't gonna end well for our side, when leftist judges start using this against us.

I mean, all the hate speech us evil conservatives use, how could that guy help but try and kill all those congessmen? He was in a fragile state, worried about his health care, and they just kept egging him on.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (Y9+RI)

364 Diminished capacity, however does it work? But I can
see manslaughter, because she knew he was killing himself, and failed
to make any effort whatsoever to prevent it.



9-1-1 And the bitch didn't.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 03:25 PM (XUcIQ)

Morally, she was dead wrong. Legally, there is no duty to help anyone... even to call 911 in a situation like this (or even to refrain from saying vile things in a situation like this). As Tammy said is a dangerous precedent for all of us.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (SrkNc)

365 The WNBA still exists?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (QQ+il)

366 That's interesting alternative history right there: Doenitz relieved early on and replaced by any of several capable subordinate officers.

Doenitz was as capable as you could expect. Hitler promised him 600 subs the day the war started, since that's what was supposed to be enough to choke off British supplies. I think the actual number was something like 250.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (Xuv2G)

367 Oh this is lovely. The WNBA Seattle Storm is planning a "Stand With Planned Parenthood" night.

http://tinyurl.com/y729kqxv

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 03:27 PM (7HtZB)



What a thrilling night for their 3 fans. And what do a bunch of lesbians need with an abortion provider?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (493sH)

368 I mean, all the hate speech us evil conservatives
use, how could that guy help but try and kill all those congessmen? He
was in a fragile state, worried about his health care, and they just
kept egging him on.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (Y9+RI)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (SrkNc)

369 39...
The Telegraph noted that cladding "is used as an insulation to make buildings more sustainable to meet green energy requirements. Some 30,000 buildings in the U.K. have been retrofitted with cladding to cheaply comply with green energy mandates."
Posted by: zombie


Sadly, this will simply be used as an example of why all the rules need to be more stringent, pervasive, and punitive.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (di1hb)

370 358
Let's find out, shall we and really turn the screws on Bezos

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:27 PM (493sH)

With a high pressure impact driver.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (l4aLi)

371 I may have killed a hooker or three...maybe...

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (uhftQ)

372 So anytime someone says "I'm killing myself" anyone that receives that message has a duty to act?
===

By the way, I just typed " I'm killing myself" .


Did anyone call 911?

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (C52a9)

373 There is no duty to help. This is a dangerous precedent.

Posted by: redbanzai

I believe this was covered in the final two episodes of Seinfeld.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (HTdUD)

374 Putin offering Comey asylum was pretty damn funny, I have to say. I wonder if Vlad is a lurker here..

Nyet!

Posted by: Totally not Vlad Putin at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (IZPn8)

375 How does an online seller of books and other whatnot buying one of hundreds of grocery chains fall afoul of anti-trust laws???

Posted by: Country Boy
______


Isn't something like 90% of online retail business through Amazon?

They are actively trying to put everyone under so they will own online sales. Their profit margin is basically zero.

Win or lose, I'd like to see the DOJ go after them

If Bezos wants to go back to just being a businessman and stay out of politics, we can talk.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:30 PM (rEapd)

376 BTW, growing Leftist-leg riot in England right now...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/KensingtonTownHall?src=hash

Posted by: The Hatarchy in the UK at June 16, 2017 03:31 PM (vBeA5)

377 That lunatic Jared Loughner, and he really was a legit lunatic, why, that damn target on the commercial just set him off.

Those people were mean, and should be punished. Their words caused him to do that. THEY should be the one charged, not the poor guy in the fragile mental state who pulled the trigger.

It is reckless and wanton to use words and imagery that might set someone off, you know; we have legal precedent for that.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:31 PM (Y9+RI)

378 Rule number 1: Always choose a jury.

Nope. Not in Mass. I thought for sure she was home free when she went with a bench trial.


Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:19 PM


Yeah...not always. I once helped defend in a case where the law was along the lines of "this conduct is illegal...but, this law does not apply to circumstances A, B, C, etc." The alleged activity clearly fell into the exception, or could at least be proved to have done so. The judge rejected every motion we filed in that regard, and wouldn't even listen to testimony showing that the law didn't apply in this case. So, bench trials...not always a good thing.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 03:31 PM (p+Wdc)

379 Oh this is lovely. The WNBA Seattle Storm is planning a "Stand With Planned Parenthood" night.

Forget it, Jake. It's Seattle. And the WNBA...

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (qJhUV)

380 357 There is no duty to help. This is a dangerous precedent.


Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:24 PM (SrkNc)

It's gonna happen a lot during CW2.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:26 PM (Jcg9Q)

In Vermont there is a duty to help. The penalty is low, but it's on the books. in NJ, I'd have to call 911, but I do not have the duty to get physically involved

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (2+tI4)

381 I mentioned earlier that Amazon is kicking off their Amazon NOW , dammit ! service that promises 2 hour delivery in some cases.


Add that to Whole Foods?

GROCERIES DOT COM 2.0 , baby!

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (C52a9)

382 So if libs are calling for dead GOP, then they are guilty of manslaughter, right?

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (2+tI4)

383 WNBA players can't get pregnant by accident.....

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (rmVvL)

384 Isn't something like 90% of online retail business through Amazon?

They are actively trying to put everyone under so they will own online sales. Their profit margin is basically zero.

Win or lose, I'd like to see the DOJ go after them

If Bezos wants to go back to just being a businessman and stay out of politics, we can talk.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:30 PM (rEapd)



I've really thought that's been his long game. Bezos is willing have razor thin or zero profits until he's killed all of the competition and then watch prices go up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:33 PM (493sH)

385 OT about the recipe submissions...

Can they be "half scratch" recipes? Can they contain pre-made items?

Posted by: Max Power at June 16, 2017 03:33 PM (q177U)

386 BTW, growing Leftist-leg riot in England right now...

https://twitter.com/hashtag/KensingtonTownHall?src=hash
Posted by: The Hatarchy in the UK


So a bunch of people are frantically turning in a circle?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2017 03:33 PM (udajc)

387 We'll just have to agree to disagree.

We now have a legal precedent of speech causing manslaughter.

If words are given that much credence, I can just about imagine how it goes from here. Ain't gonna end well for our side, when leftist judges start using this against us.

I mean, all the hate speech us evil conservatives use, how could that guy help but try and kill all those congessmen? He was in a fragile state, worried about his health care, and they just kept egging him on.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (Y9+RI)


I agree. The lawyers looked stunned. Michelle Carter was on odd duck there. It looked like she was feigning emotion, but then didn't understand what the judge was saying and was asking her lawyer what was going on.

I think she thought she was going to be set free. But, then I think she is a true psychopath, because her emotions were on and off, and didn't seem real.

We do not know all of the facts, we need to get a hold of the transcript.

I wonder if he was also effected by the carbon monoxide by that point, or on drugs, or w/e - which I know shouldn't make a difference, but he fought hard against doing it and she fought twice as hard to MAKE him do it. She is truly a monster.

but, yeah, it was texting

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:33 PM (fceHP)

388 Oh this is lovely. The WNBA Seattle Storm is planning a "Stand With Planned Parenthood" night.

http://tinyurl.com/y729kqxv

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 03:27 PM (7HtZB)

I should write a "dykes and babykillers" post for these scum.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (Jcg9Q)

389
'Craved indifference' iirc was the charge placed on Jerry, George, and Elaine when they watched some fat dude get robbed and didn't help.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (HTdUD)

390 379 Oh this is lovely. The WNBA Seattle Storm is planning a "Stand With Planned Parenthood" night.

Forget it, Jake. It's Seattle. And the WNBA...
Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (qJhUV)


All 47 WNBA fans will take notice.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (Xuv2G)

391 Check out this wonderful fellow.Are his fellow Democrats denouncing him?

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/267744/

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (rmVvL)

392 So a guy is on the edge of a bridge, and a crowd is chanting "JUMP"!
Is there anything criminal in that?

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (UmSfZ)

393 368 I mean, all the hate speech us evil conservatives
use, how could that guy help but try and kill all those congessmen? He
was in a fragile state, worried about his health care, and they just
kept egging him on.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:28 PM (Y9+RI)

He was covered by medicare, don't think he was in jeopardy of losing that

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (2+tI4)

394

the thing is, this kid tried to commit suicide before, and someone who is really trying will eventually succeed no matter what you do

but he was crying for help multiple times

sometimes you just cannot help enough

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (fceHP)

395
What a thrilling night for their 3 fans. And what do a bunch of lesbians need with an abortion provider?
Posted by: TheQuietMan


In case they change their mind after a date with the turkey baster.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (IqV8l)

396 392 So a guy is on the edge of a bridge, and a crowd is chanting "JUMP"!
Is there anything criminal in that?


Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM (UmSfZ)
Apparently

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (2+tI4)

397 He said Carter, then 17, had a duty to call someone for help when she knew Roy was attempting suicide.
===

So anytime someone says "I'm killing myself" anyone that receives that message has a duty to act?

Does this apply to other venues?


Blog comments for example?


Posted by: Mortimer
****

If it was the case in question, she did waaaayyy more than that.
She was telling him to kill himself and had been doing so for some time.
When he said he couldn't do it, she ordered him to get back into his truck and kill himself.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (uhftQ)

398 I've really thought that's been his long game. Bezos is willing have razor thin or zero profits until he's killed all of the competition and then watch prices go up
Posted by: TheQuietMan

_______

There's really no question that is what the company is attempting to do, and there's all sorts of laws against that.

When you look at the total profits Amazon has generated since its inception, its like 1% of what Bezos is personally worth.

Even if the case fails, I'd like to see Bezos fight for his life.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (rEapd)

399 and she fought twice as hard to MAKE him do it.


She talked to him, on a phone.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (QQ+il)

400
Former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl has passed away at 87. In Sidebar.

RIP

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (mbhDw)

401 WNBA players can't get pregnant by accident.....

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (rmVvL)

Have you seen some of them?

I sure wouldn't bang one on purpose!

Posted by: Typical disgusting Moron at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (rF0hx)

402 383 WNBA players can't get pregnant by accident.....
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (rmVvL)


I don't think you can get pregnant at all unless you have two X sex chromosomes.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (Xuv2G)

403
All 47 WNBA fans will take notice.
===


Yeah, if they combine it with "Three Tickets For The Price Of One" Night.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:36 PM (C52a9)

404 WNBA players can't get pregnant by accident.....
_____


Maybe, but why punish their sexual curiosity with a baby? /s

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:36 PM (UmSfZ)

405 I've really thought that's been his long game. Bezos is willing have razor thin or zero profits until he's killed all of the competition and then watch prices go up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:33 PM (493sH)

I don't think it'll work.

German grocery chain Aldi is undergoing massive expansion, and similar German grocery chain Lidl is entering the US market in a major way.

German grocers have already stomped on Walmart in Germany, so I don't think they're too scared of Amazon.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:36 PM (Jcg9Q)

406
So a guy is on the edge of a bridge, and a crowd is chanting "JUMP"!
Is there anything criminal in that?
Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM


Now it will be a criminal act if you don't chant "DON'T JUMP"!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:37 PM (IqV8l)

407 All 47 WNBA fans will take notice.
===


Yeah, if they combine it with "Three Tickets For The Price Of One" Night.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:36 PM (C52a9)

Turkey basters for the first 300 through the door?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 16, 2017 03:37 PM (jxbfJ)

408 If it was the case in question, she did waaaayyy more than that.
She was telling him to kill himself and had been doing so for some time.
When he said he couldn't do it, she ordered him to get back into his truck and kill himself.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW

_____

Yea, I understand "slippery slope" arguments, but from what I've read, this bitch has blood on her hands.

And they also found how she had structured to financially benefit from his suicide, then constantly encouraged him to commit suicide with details.

At a certain point, its not much different than someone hiring a hitman to kill someone. After all, that's just "words".

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:37 PM (rEapd)

409 Fox just showed the Scalise doctor giving an update ... still critical but in much better shape than when he arrived, and stable. Has been woken enough to respond and talk, so that is promising in regards to brain damage potential. Said he should walk, assuming recovery proceeds without some event like infection.

Mentioned they don't remove "the bullet" ... it is many many fragments, more harm than good to try to dig them all out. Still weeks in hospital probably.

Afterwords the Fox on set young female doc said the bullet is much worse because it fragments much more since it was "an assault rifle" bullet. genius.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (O8hcu)

410 That's perfect, redbanzai.

Yes, morally what she did is horrifying and beyond heinous.

But from a legal standpoint, I just do not think we want to go down the road of giving words this much power.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (Y9+RI)

411 She is truly a monster.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:33 PM (fceHP)

Involuntary Euthanasia. It happens in Europe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (rF0hx)

412 "Their profit margin is basically zero."

Amazon: the River Of No Returns.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (ujwCG)

413 If it was the case in question, she did waaaayyy more than that.

She was telling him to kill himself and had been doing so for some time.

When he said he couldn't do it, she ordered him to get back into his truck and kill himself.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (uhftQ)

She was nowhere near him physically to force him to follow her "order". HE got back into the truck under his own steam.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (SrkNc)

414 406
So a guy is on the edge of a bridge, and a crowd is chanting "JUMP"!
Is there anything criminal in that?
Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM

Now it will be a criminal act if you don't chant "DON'T JUMP"!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:37 PM (IqV8l)


What if you leave a little gap, like, "dont... jump!"

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (Xuv2G)

415 Is it now established that the Lefty shooter was using an SKS? So, 7.62x39 then?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:39 PM (QQ+il)

416
While you're at it.
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia.

Posted by: El Jefe at June 16, 2017 03:39 PM (t6XCL)

417
No bad moon on the rise.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (IqV8l)


With luck, no revival.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (CPk08)

418 Yea, I understand "slippery slope" arguments, but from what I've read, this bitch has blood on her hands.

Hard cases make bad law. Yeah, she's a terrible person, but the slippery slope could affect everyone.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (Xuv2G)

419 She talked to him, on a phone.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:35 PM (QQ+il)

Texted him.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (SrkNc)

420 Afterwords the Fox on set young female doc said the bullet is much worse because it fragments much more since it was "an assault rifle" bullet. genius.

This is one of the reasons why I no longer watch Fox.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (l4aLi)

421 So he got 72 virgin mail order brides?

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (HgMAr)

422 Yea, I understand "slippery slope" arguments, but from what I've read, this bitch has blood on her hands.

And they also found how she had structured to financially benefit from his suicide, then constantly encouraged him to commit suicide with details.

At a certain point, its not much different than someone hiring a hitman to kill someone. After all, that's just "words".

Posted by: Maritime
****

Oh wow. I did not know about her finacial gain from it. What an evil scrunt.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (+aCe4)

423 Bring Me the Head of Jerry Garcia.

Posted by: Dead Jefe at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (UmSfZ)

424
What if you leave a little gap, like, "dont... jump!"

Posted by: Ace's liver
====

Let's get a ruling from the 9th Circus...

What does our Hawaiian Judge say?

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (C52a9)

425 Is there anyone with any guts in the Justice Dept?

Sessions recused himself for no reason.

Rod Rosenstein is about recuse himself because it is a convenient out for him.

Jimmy da Weasel is obviously on the outside now.

Mueller "independent prosector" guy hired a bunch of Democrat partisans and proceeded to leak to the press like a sieve.

So that leaves...Rachel Brand? Does she have the guts to fire Mueller?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (eSx+E)

426 Thanks, Russia! Much appreciated. Killing this jihadi rat was pretty good, but can you go ahead and release your ubama/clinton files now, too? Do it for the children.

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2017 03:41 PM (zLDYs)

427 She was nowhere near him physically to force him to follow her "order". HE got back into the truck under his own steam.


Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (SrkNc)

Yes, but if she knew he was medically impaired/vulnerable she should have called 911. As I said, I'd have called 911 even if I thought it was fake. Nothing like a weekend in a psychiatric hospital to cure this sort of behavior if fake. If real, he would have needed long term care, which he obviously wasn't getting.

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:41 PM (2+tI4)

428 Putin was pissed at Hillary for the russian nonsense and decided to take out one of her friends.

Posted by: Tentotwo at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (yhf6w)

429 At a certain point, its not much different than someone hiring a hitman to kill someone. After all, that's just "words".



Posted by: Maritime

That is nowhere near the same thing.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (SrkNc)

430 So that leaves...Rachel Brand? Does she have the guts to fire Mueller?


Posted by: 18-1 at June 16, 2017 03:40 PM (eSx+E)
No

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (2+tI4)

431 Mentioned they don't remove "the bullet" ... it is many many fragments, more harm than good to try to dig them all out. Still weeks in hospital probably.

Afterwords the Fox on set young female doc said the bullet is much worse because it fragments much more since it was "an assault rifle" bullet. genius.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (O8hcu)



he also said he has many more surgeries

prioritizing

stop blood first

etc

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (fceHP)

432 She was nowhere near him physically to force him to follow her "order". HE got back into the truck under his own steam.
Posted by: redbanzai

_____

If someone hires a hitman, are they not an accomplice?

I mean, the person didn't "force" the hitman to commit murder, just words and offered incentives.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (rEapd)

433 What about the other guy who was shot? The tyson employee - what is his name again? Is he still critical?

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 03:43 PM (a0IVu)

434 She talked to him, on a phone.

Posted by: Grump928(c)
===


So are you saying that I don't HAVE to buy that soon-to-expire extended warranty for my vehicle?

Or call back Rhonda from Card Services about their special offer?

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:43 PM (C52a9)

435 So that leaves...Rachel Brand? Does she have the guts to fire Mueller?

I think she's a Bushbot. So no.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 03:43 PM (l4aLi)

436 If this verdict stands it will be us in the docket soon.

And you were worried about pizza makers.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:43 PM (QQ+il)

437 I've really thought that's been his long game. Bezos is willing have razor thin or zero profits until he's killed all of the competition and then watch prices go up
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Prices are already up, I've shopped at Amazon a lot, but I always check prices before I buy, and lately almost everything I've checked I can find cheaper at Walmart, Home Depot etc... He's counting on people trusting Amazon prices are best and not researching, I don't think that in the long run that will pay off for him.

Posted by: spypeach at June 16, 2017 03:43 PM (ZuTnR)

438 This dude is like "The Dread Pirate Baghdadi"


He won't stay dead. He's damned uncooperative.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (X+nFp)

439 I'm interested in Ace's reaction to Geraghty's comment this morning. It seems to me he's misreading Ace, who isn't saying either"they deserve to payback" or "if they get payback, they'll know how it feels." (Those are the two points, as JG presents them.) But the actual argument is different: not getting even, not an appeal to their better nature (hah!), but deterrence. Ace's point, as I understand it, is that they will have no reason to stop so long as it helps them to continue. It is only when they see they are paying a price, that they will reconsider.

(I might have made a comment to this effect there, but I quit commenting on NRO about a year ago, and besides, I don't do facebook.)

Posted by: George LeS at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (+TcCF)

440
Yes, but if she knew he was medically
impaired/vulnerable she should have called 911. As I said, I'd have
called 911 even if I thought it was fake. Nothing like a weekend in a
psychiatric hospital to cure this sort of behavior if fake. If real, he
would have needed long term care, which he obviously wasn't getting.

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:41 PM (2+tI4)


I would have called 911 also. That doesn't matter though. Being a shitty human being is not and should not be illegal. Keep in mind how much the left thinks everyone of us falls under that category because we are conservatives.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (SrkNc)

441 I don't know. If Hitler is killed prior to Barbarossa, and England is conquered first, then the Soviets are steamrolled by a Nazi army fighting a single war, I'm not sure the allies (whoever is left) wins. Of course, if Hitler doesn't declare war after Pearl Harbor, what does that do? Leave England on an island?
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2017 03:04 PM (t06LC)

Barbarossa would have succeeded most likely in cutting the heart out of the Soviet union if it had started on time. It still came damn close. Horseshoes. Hand grenades.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Von Runstedt wanted to stop at the Urals and form a Ukranian army. They greeted the German troops (briefly) as liberators.

There is a 'what might have been'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (326rv)

442 She was nowhere near him physically to force him to follow her "order". HE got back into the truck under his own steam.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (SrkNc)


Gets a bit tricky when the guy is mentally ill.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (CPk08)

443
381 I mentioned earlier that Amazon is kicking off their Amazon NOW , dammit ! service that promises 2 hour delivery in some cases.


Add that to Whole Foods?

GROCERIES DOT COM 2.0 , baby!
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:32 PM (C52a9)

Exactly. Whole Foods located in liberal suburbs will provide vertically integrated delivery of groceries. You too will soon be able to get reclinerside delivery of Starbucks while watching "Ow, My Balls."

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (e1mEI)

444 And they also found how she had structured to financially benefit from his suicide, then constantly encouraged him to commit suicide with details.

Okay, that's starting to build a little more of a case, although to me no where near manslaughter.

Don't you have to pay the hit man before they can charge you for anything? (I truly don't know)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (Y9+RI)

445 That is nowhere near the same thing.


Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (SrkNc)

Agreed, hiring a hitman involves a motivated third party.
I think the laws regarding duty in these circumstances need some publicity. Most people would have no idea. I have to attend a yearly update and would get an email if the law changed.

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:45 PM (2+tI4)

446 The Telegraph noted that cladding "is used as an insulation to make
buildings more sustainable to meet green energy requirements.
***
The WTC towers were being built at the same time we realized the medical affects of Asbestos.

Therefore part of the building was built with it, part, near the top, without.

I've seen arguments that if they had used Asbestos as originally planned, the fires from the planes would have taken a lot longer to cause the buildings to structurally fail.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 16, 2017 03:45 PM (eSx+E)

447 Maddow addressed the shooter being a fan of the show around 9:07 pm EDT, assuring viewers that Hodgkinson never contacted her nor her staff

"...[Hodgkinson] once submitted a letter to the editor that cited statistics about political donations that he says he heard on this TV show because he said he watched this TV show," Maddow explained. "I should tell you that we went through our correspondence today ... we didn't find any evidence that he ever sent anything to this show or tried to contact us at all."

However, the segment was mysteriously removed when the show re-aired at midnight. Instead, the first 20 minutes of the show centered on an old Washington Post report alleging that the Trump team tried to establish a back channel communications line with Russia.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 03:46 PM (e8kgV)

448 If someone hires a hitman, are they not an accomplice?



I mean, the person didn't "force" the hitman to commit murder, just words and offered incentives.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (rEapd)

They are more than an accomplice... that has exactly jack and shit to do with this case.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:46 PM (SrkNc)

449 You guys are just arguing that you CAN yell "Fire!" in a movie theater. And that you CAN directly, explicitly incite to riot or murder or whatever. (Isn't suicide still illegal in most states?)

Eh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2017 03:46 PM (0jtPF)

450 Bring me the feet of Chicken Alfredo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:47 PM (IqV8l)

451 You too will soon be able to get reclinerside delivery of Starbucks while watching "Ow, My Balls."

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew
==

Right after you buy the remote front door opener.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:47 PM (C52a9)

452 You guys are just arguing that you CAN yell "Fire!" in a movie theater.

Not even close.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:47 PM (QQ+il)

453 However, the segment was mysteriously removed when the show re-aired at midnight. Instead, the first 20 minutes of the show centered on an old Washington Post report alleging that the Trump team tried to establish a back channel communications line with Russia.


Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 03:46 PM (e8kgV)
...............

All the news we decided you never needed to know.

Posted by: MSNBC at June 16, 2017 03:47 PM (HgMAr)

454 449 You guys are just arguing that you CAN yell "Fire!" in a movie theater. And that you CAN directly, explicitly incite to riot or murder or whatever. (Isn't suicide still illegal in most states?)

Eh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2017 03:46 PM (0jtPF)
I guess if she was a doctor in Oregon, instead of a teen in MA she could have actually helped him do it.

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:48 PM (2+tI4)

455 414 406
So a guy is on the edge of a bridge, and a crowd is chanting "JUMP"!
Is there anything criminal in that?
Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:34 PM

Now it will be a criminal act if you don't chant "DON'T JUMP"!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2017 03:37 PM (IqV8l)

What if you leave a little gap, like, "dont... jump!"
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:38 PM (Xuv2G)

*****

Is this when she's shouting Don't!!! Stop!!! And she goes to saying Don't stop!!!!

Asking for my clien...err...a friend. Yeah. A friend.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2017 03:48 PM (0tfLf)

456 I think she's a Bushbot. So no.
***
Her confirmation was 52-46 so the Dems don't like her....

By the way, Obama's Associate Attorney General, who was a hardcore far leftist, was approved 98-1.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 16, 2017 03:48 PM (eSx+E)

457 It's all moot anyway. After much harshness and more money to lawyers, this verdict will be overturned.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:48 PM (QQ+il)

458 441 Posted by: Blue Hen at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (326rv)


Stalin had a nervous breakdown immediately after the invasion and was incapacitated for almost a week. As the Nazis steamrolled in and got close to Moscow, he was ready to evacuate and considered suing for peace and ceding European Russia to Germany. When the Politburo came to his dacha, they thought they were there to arrest him. But they were there to rally him to the cause.

A moment on the knife edge of a history that might have been.

CORRECTION: He, Stalin, thought the Politburo came to arrest him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (mbhDw)

459 One of the first things you notice after opening a jar of Coco Loko is that it looks like hot chocolate mix. Snorting a line of the brown powder with specks of white confirms its familiar flavor, followed by a rush of energy.

Americans are beginning to see the product alongside candy bars and energy pills at local shops as the Florida company Legal Lean moves to take a European club-drug trend mainstream.

"I can see it taking off, as long as it doesn't get too controversial," says Nick Anderson, director of marketing for the five-person Orlando company. "We feel like we're cutting edge in what we're doing."

Snorting chocolate has received significant international attention since 2007, when Belgian chocolatier Dominique Persoone created a device he calls the Chocolate Shooter to snort cocoa (not cacao) powder. Health conscious European clubgoers separately use raw cacao in pills and drinks for its mildly euphoric, energizing effects.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (e8kgV)

460 Gets a bit tricky when the guy is mentally ill.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (CPk0

And some would argue that she can't be too tightly wrapped either.

Me? I would hold both equally responsible for their actions (ACTIONS not WORDS).

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (SrkNc)

461 Two important questions about the suicide text girl:
1. What is with her giant forehead?
2. Does she do butt stuff?

Posted by: wooga at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (xndrr)

462 You guys are just arguing that you CAN yell "Fire!" in a movie theater.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2017 03:46 PM (0jtPF)


I hate that terribly incorrect example. You can't yell "Fire!" in a movie theater. You can't yell ANYTHING in a movie theater! It's friggin private property where first amendment rights have nothing to do with anything. You can be kicked out of a movie theater for doing any of a host of totally legal things that the movie theater owners decide are not allowed to be done on their property.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (rZ+mb)

463 I've really thought that's been his long game. Bezos is willing have razor thin or zero profits until he's killed all of the competition and then watch prices go up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:33 PM (493sH)

I don't think it'll work.

German grocery chain Aldi is undergoing massive expansion, and similar German grocery chain Lidl is entering the US market in a major way.

German grocers have already stomped on Walmart in Germany, so I don't think they're too scared of Amazon.
Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 03:36 PM (Jcg9Q)

Competition is good.

That said, Amazon is creating multiple ways to make money. Lose money in one division, make it up in another. He does go for pretty thin margins, part of the customer-focused vision of the company. So long as Bezos runs the company, don't think you'll see huge price jumps.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (3OIiX)

464 The Green Fascists have blood on their hands.

Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (DQ4Fv)

Ya think?

Posted by: Malaria at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (l2X8g)

465 he also said he has many more surgeries

prioritizing

stop blood first

etc
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:42 PM (fceHP)


My sister, the vet: Air goes in and out. Blood goes round and round. Everything else is secondary.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:50 PM (Xuv2G)

466 Bring me the scalp of Don Lemon, if you can determine where his real hairline begins.

Posted by: wth at June 16, 2017 03:50 PM (HgMAr)

467 You can't yell "Fire!" in a movie theater.


Unless there actually is a fire. I would certainly yell fire, as I go through the exit.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:50 PM (QQ+il)

468 so when I was 19 / 20 I had a depressive break, and got pulled out of it by family, basically, because I had no friends. depressives tend to push friends away, imagine that.

imagine if I'd hooked up with an evil girl like this instead.

doesn't bear much thinking about.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 03:51 PM (94ccS)

469 Is this when she's shouting Don't!!! Stop!!! And she goes to saying Don't stop!!!!

Asking for my clien...err...a friend. Yeah. A friend.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2017 03:48 PM (0tfLf)
_________

This was tongue in cheek I know, but oddly relevant. There's the line between doing nothing to help - vs - encouraging someone to harm themselves, that must exist somewhere, maybe just in a persons soul.

Posted by: Dead Jefe at June 16, 2017 03:51 PM (UmSfZ)

470 They are more than an accomplice... that has exactly jack and shit to do with this case.
Posted by: redbanzai
______


You're way too worked about this.

This bitch belongs in prison, she actively assisted and financially benefited from helping a person she knew was mentally impaired commit suicide. This wasn't some nonsense like she just insulted him, she helped him plan it and encouraged him throughout up until he was actually doing it.

The idea that conservatives are going to start getting locked up for murder over heated rhetoric has jack shit to do with what this woman was put away for.

People go overboard with slippery slope type arguments.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:51 PM (rEapd)

471
German grocery chain Aldi is undergoing massive expansion

==


Aldi's meat is the bomb.

Their butchers leave the flank steak on the rib racks.

It's my go-to for grill-age.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:51 PM (C52a9)

472 Baghdad is in Iraq. Iraq is mostly Shiite. ISIS is Sunni. Why was this man ever leader of ISIS in the first place? Like having a Protestant Pope.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (xAvrH)

473 Nude Scorpion Thread

Posted by: Grump928(c) at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (QQ+il)

474 If Hitler had waited an additional six months or a year to start the war after developing more advanced weapons and building his inventory of existing weapons and supplies , he may have been unstoppable.

Thank god for his impatience.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (PMkYS)

475 ugh - off dead sock

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (UmSfZ)

476

Here is the video of the judge's reading on Michelle Carter

Michelle Carter trial: Watch guilty verdict being read by Judge Lawrence Moniz

http://bit.ly/2skja7L

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (fceHP)

477 >>Shemp is taking another day off.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:51 PM (PY9jH)



Drug rehab?

Just getting the old anal sphincter snugged up.

Posted by: Shep at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (/Nite)

478 Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 03:51 PM (94ccS)

Family is usually much more useful. Teenaged friends, not usually helpful and often too concerned about their own status to "rat" on someone.

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (2+tI4)

479 We Germans aren't all fun and games.

Posted by: german grocer at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (nlbfN)

480 I don't necessarily *want* her to go to prison. but I just... don't much *mind*, if she does.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (94ccS)

481 You're way too worked about this.



This bitch belongs in prison, she actively assisted and financially
benefited from helping a person she knew was mentally impaired commit
suicide. This wasn't some nonsense like she just insulted him, she
helped him plan it and encouraged him throughout up until he was
actually doing it.



The idea that conservatives are going to start getting locked up for
murder over heated rhetoric has jack shit to do with what this woman
was put away for.



People go overboard with slippery slope type arguments.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:51 PM (rEapd)


Wow... I seem to remember the same words coming out of liberals' mouths about religious freedom and homosexual marriage. They were wrong and so are you.


Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:53 PM (SrkNc)

482 Von Runstedt wanted to stop at the Urals and form a Ukranian army. They greeted the German troops (briefly) as liberators.

There is a 'what might have been'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 16, 2017 03:44 PM (326rv)



Yeah, had the Germans taken advantage of the locals greeting them as liberators they could have fielded quite an allied army in the east instead of the partisans fighting them. But again history turns on things like this

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 03:53 PM (493sH)

483 Oooh, the Germans are mad at me. Smithers, protect me from the scary Germans.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 16, 2017 03:54 PM (3OIiX)

484 :^=(

Posted by: german grocer at June 16, 2017 03:55 PM (nlbfN)

485 If Hitler had waited an additional six months or a year to start the war after developing more advanced weapons and building his inventory of existing weapons and supplies , he may have been unstoppable.

Thank god for his impatience.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 03:52 PM (PMkYS)

Problem was, the Russians were up-gearing and positioning troops too. More time gives the Russians more time to get their shit together too. If Hitler hadn't broken the pact, Stalin probably would have.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 16, 2017 03:55 PM (3OIiX)

486 I'd say the bigger news in groceries today was the plunge in Kroger's stock. Sudden loss of confidence leads to panic in business decisions. Kroger suggests there may be some consolidation coming. And for you Wednesday shoppers -- you know who you are, writing those slow-ass checks at the manual checkout counter -- next week is your last 5% senior discount.

So far they bluff that they can stay even with even more discounting. Once the activist institutional shareholders make a meeting, you'll see them all over the map on strategies. As you walk past the Kroger door, touch that wall and you'll see that it's made of brick and mortar, a damnable term just now.

There exists the serious possibility that in not too many years, your grocery shopping choices may be online BezosMart, and the moral equivalent of the Dollar Store. Then Ow My Balls won't seem as funny. But you will finally be able to walk across my lawn.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 16, 2017 03:55 PM (H5rtT)

487 This bitch belongs in prison, she actively assisted and financially benefited from helping a person she knew was mentally impaired commit suicide.

While that's a reasonably accurate summation of her actions, you don't put people in prison unless they break laws.

This ruling puts another crack in the already battered 1A wall.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 03:56 PM (Xuv2G)

488 Me? I would hold both equally responsible for their actions (ACTIONS not WORDS).
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 03:49 PM (SrkNc)


Wellllllll......Sometimes intent is criminal as well. I mean, criminal conspiracy, for instance. The point is that he is incapable of helping himself (being mentally ill). Its a bit like setting a man trap. You aren't allowed to leave things around that you know people will hurt themselves with, in order to hurt them. You aren't allowed to behave in a way that you know will cause harm, in order to cause harm.

Here I think you can argue that a) he was not in his right mind and b) she was trying to hurt him and c) she had many many opportunities to stop herself, and she chose not to. I mean, it wasn't a single bad call or spur of the moment stupidity/scruntishness: this is a dangerous malice.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 03:56 PM (CPk08)

489 470----People go overboard with slippery slope type arguments.
Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 03:51 PM (rEapd)
--------------------------
And sometimes we're so fixated on one slope that we don't see another --- like the push to normalize, minimize, or even glorify suicide.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2017 03:57 PM (0jtPF)

490 Ein nood.

Posted by: german grocer at June 16, 2017 03:57 PM (nlbfN)

491 To get right down to the licklog, if Hitler had the sense the good Lord gave a pissant, he wouldn't have made the Jews his scapegoat, and we'd all be speaking Yiddish now. But, that's Hitler for you.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 16, 2017 03:58 PM (H5rtT)

492 Wow... I seem to remember the same words coming out of liberals' mouths about religious freedom and homosexual marriage. They were wrong and so are you.


Posted by: redbanzai


_____

Let me know the next time a conservative is put away in prison for murder as a result this bizarre suicide case.


Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 04:00 PM (rEapd)

493 491 To get right down to the licklog, if Hitler had the sense the good Lord gave a pissant, he wouldn't have made the Jews his scapegoat, and we'd all be speaking Yiddish now. But, that's Hitler for you.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 16, 2017 03:58 PM (H5rtT)


If you read Mein Kampf you realize the Jews were less of a scapegoat than the first entry on a very long list.

Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 04:00 PM (Xuv2G)

494 44 Baghdadi has had more fake reports of death than Paul McCartney, so I would definitely take this with a grain of salt.

But if this is true, I can't wait to hear John McCain explain how this is unacceptable aggression by Russia and we need to start WWIII because reasons.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (rX06+)


PAUL McCARTNEY IS DEAD?!!!

Posted by: whiet album played backwards at June 16, 2017 04:01 PM (WS19L)

495 Wellllllll......Sometimes intent is criminal as
well. I mean, criminal conspiracy, for instance. The point is that he is
incapable of helping himself (being mentally ill). Its a bit like
setting a man trap. You aren't allowed to leave things around that you
know people will hurt themselves with, in order to hurt them. You aren't
allowed to behave in a way that you know will cause harm, in order to
cause harm.



Here I think you can argue that a) he was not in his right mind and
b) she was trying to hurt him and c) she had many many opportunities to
stop herself, and she chose not to. I mean, it wasn't a single bad call
or spur of the moment stupidity/scruntishness: this is a dangerous
malice.





Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 03:56 PM (CPk0

The fact that he got out of the truck and had second thoughts kinda disproves the notion that he was so mentally incapacitated as to be legally not responsible for his actions. Depressed and suicidal != to legally not responsible.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 04:01 PM (SrkNc)

496 45 >>The Telegraph noted that cladding "is used as an insulation to make
buildings more sustainable to meet green energy requirements." Some
30,000 buildings in the U.K. have been retrofitted with cladding to
cheaply comply with green energy mandates."


"Praise Allah!"
--- ISIS
Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:23 PM (NOIQH)


i laughed at that...whats wrong with me?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 16, 2017 04:02 PM (WS19L)

497 If you read Mein Kampf you realize the Jews were less of a scapegoat than the first entry on a very long list.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 16, 2017 04:00 PM (Xuv2G)


Yeah. Its really important to remember that anti Semitism is often more akin to a mental disorder than anything else. People don't "choose" it. It sorta lives in their heads, and they have to deal with it.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 04:04 PM (CPk08)

498 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 16, 2017 03:55 PM (3OIiX)

Hitler could have conceivably developed the A-Bomb and jet fighter / bomber that would have overshadowed any Russian build up. Of course this is just a thought game and I don't pretend to know.

I do use it though to support our continued pursuit to stay ahead of our adversaries . Just think if Britain had the F-80 in 1939. Hitler would not have even thought about starting a war. That's just 4 years before it was actually developed.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 04:06 PM (PMkYS)

499 The fact that he got out of the truck and had second thoughts kinda disproves the notion that he was so mentally incapacitated as to be legally not responsible for his actions.

No, sorry. That's just not true. It demonstrates that he was very frightened. It doesn''t demonstrate unimpaired capacity.

Depressed and suicidal != to legally not responsible.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 04:01 PM (SrkNc)


It's a matter of degree. This guy had chronic problems, that she was deliberately making worse. Its the unequivocally demonstrable malice on her part that pushes it into criminality, IMHO.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 04:07 PM (CPk08)

500 Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 04:07 PM (CPk0

I didn't agree with convicting the Rutgers student on any charge so I find it hard to convict the girl on a homicide charge. I think a lesser charge could be justified though.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 04:10 PM (PMkYS)

501 And add to that: his mental illness is important because its symptomatology makes it perfectly clear that she knew that what she was doing could hurt him. If he had been a sane, healthy guy and she'd said "go kill yourself" and he had,. she could have argued that really, she had no idea he'd do it. But she KNEW he had issues. She KNEW he was viulnerable. So its like putting a bear trap in front of a toddler and saying: "Boy if you step on that its gonna hurt. I dare you!". You can't afterwards say "The kid stepped on it himself! I told him it would hurt!"

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 04:13 PM (CPk08)

502 I didn't agree with convicting the Rutgers student on any charge so I find it hard to convict the girl on a homicide charge. I think a lesser charge could be justified though.
Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 04:10 PM (PMkYS)


I don't know what charge would be appropriate. But I think calling her behavior criminal is fine.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 16, 2017 04:14 PM (CPk08)

503 So are you saying that I don't HAVE to buy that soon-to-expire extended warranty for my vehicle?

Or call back Rhonda from Card Services about their special offer?
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 03:43 PM (C52a9)

...

conspiracy to commit murder is a thing. That's just words.

It sure gets weird with a suicide but at some point I'm willing to accept that there's some responsibly there.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 16, 2017 04:21 PM (yL25O)

504 It was also INVOLUNTARY manslaughter and not straight-out manslaughter.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/
Involuntary+Manslaughter

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