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Flashback: DNC Hired Provocateurs, With Hillary Campaign's Money, to Start Violence at Trump Rallies

Remember?

Our small window of civility is quickly closing, but before it does I would like to remind the "everyone has to tone down their rhetoric" crowd that one side is more violence-oriented than the other. One side has its leaders, figureheads, and celebrities fomenting anger with their violent rhetoric on the news and on their late-night TV "entertainment" shows. When there is an incident, these leaders make excuses for the perpetrators. The right certainly has its share of folks that step over the line. The difference is that the RNC, the party leadership, the leaders of our various groups, and the anchors on Fox News or radio aren't agitating for confrontations with alarmist and dire warnings -- and they condemn such confrontations quickly when they do happen.


So let's take a walk down memory lane to last year when we learned the DNC/Clinton campaign's hired thugs were "bird-dogging" and sending mentally unstable people to Trump rallies to provoke attendees with hopes of getting some violence on tape to broadcast how dangerous Trump supporters are. Now why would you want to show the public how dangerous Trump supporters are? It's a helpful tool if one is trying to get people agitated over the deadly and dire circumstances President Trump and his supporters present.

Even groups generally opposed to the right have started to raise alarms about the growing thirst for violence on the left.

"I think we're in a time when we can’t ignore the extremism from the Left," said Oren Segal, the director of the Center on Extremism, an arm of the Anti-Defamation League. Over the past few months, the ADL, which hosts regular seminars on homegrown extremism for law enforcement officials, has begun warning of the rising threat posed by far-left groups, most recently at a seminar just this past Sunday. "When we have anti-fascist counterprotests -- not that they are the same as white supremacists - that can ratchet up the violence at these events, and it means we can see people who are violent on their own be attracted to that," Segal said. "I hate to say it, but it feels inevitable."


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Left-wing extremism, of course, is nothing new. Groups like the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers have deep roots, and in the years after 9/11, Segal says, the largest source of extremist violence was from the Left: eco-terrorists and animal rights activists. But those later organizations mostly targeted institutions; in the modern era, politically motivated violence perpetrated by angry lone-wolf attackers bearing automatic rifles, of the sort carried out in Wednesday’s attack, has until now largely been a modus operandi of the far right.

Levin says that we're seeing a ratcheting up of political violence by the left (which, he claims, is mirroriing that of the right-- bullshit, of course) and that "nobody gives a shit."

Of course they don't, if you mean the media. The media has fomented leftist violence and made excuses for it after-the-fact at every turn.

Posted by: Ace at 12:35 PM




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1 They have become emboldened by the media.. as well as the lefty blogs that actively encourages this.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 16, 2017 12:36 PM (so+oy)

2 It's not surprised to see the ADL paying attention to this. There is a very strong anti-Zionist element on the academic/college kid Left.

Mike

Posted by: MBunge at June 16, 2017 12:38 PM (0MU1I)

3 corgis called

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 16, 2017 12:38 PM (so+oy)

4 This is just the beginning. They feel they have license now.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at June 16, 2017 12:38 PM (RD7QR)

5
Wasn't that Jan Schakowsky (Commie Bitch -IL) husband was behind that? Odd that a congressthing's husband inciting violence never made the news

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 12:38 PM (493sH)

6 I woke up today feeling very intolerant.

I won't tolerate masked thugs disrupting peaceful marches. I won't tolerate police that won't immediately arrest said masked thugs. I won't tolerate leaders that wink wink at the violence.

Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 12:38 PM (EX4Wr)

7 The violence Right is always feared yet the violent Left is what we always get.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 12:39 PM (hLRSq)

8 There are certain stories that need to be brought up regularly and repeated. This is one, so is the Chuck Todd sending his stories to the Clinton campaign to approve and edit one. Stuff people generally don't know about and need to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:39 PM (39g3+)

9 Not buying that moral equivalence bushwa.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 12:39 PM (BWL+E)

10 damn. read it. Look where it got me.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'now with more rage' at June 16, 2017 12:39 PM (E8apb)

11 The dark night of violence is always falling on the Right and landing on the Left.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 12:40 PM (BWL+E)

12 Sick and tired of hearing "but the right."


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 12:41 PM (PY9jH)

13 Nancy Pelosi held her forked tongue for about five minutes, before spewing her usual brain-dead blather about the right.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 12:42 PM (PY9jH)

14 they will not like their huckleberries

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 12:42 PM (nFwvY)

15 It's not surprised to see the ADL paying attention to this. There is a very strong anti-Zionist element on the academic/college kid Left.

I'm sure they are conflicted about it though.

On the one hand: serious anti-Jew hate on campus
On the other hand: super hard left dogma being taught

Which will triumph for the ADL? My money is not on helping Jews.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:43 PM (39g3+)

16 Wow, this is all over the internet, most major media has replaced their headlines to report this story . . . oh, wait . . .

Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2017 12:43 PM (EgOr3)

17 They have become emboldened by the media.. as well as the lefty blogs that actively encourages this.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 16, 2017 12:36 PM (so+oy)


And, I would suggest, emboldened by the limp wristed, pansy-assed "we're better than that" and "an attack on one is an attack on all" responses from the GOPe.

In the movie Thirteen Days, there is a line: "The Soviet understands only one thing. Force." At some point there has to be force from the right, because Corporal Hudson's harsh words will not do the trick.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 12:43 PM (X6fMO)

18 Let's not forget untold numbers of incidents of violence from union goons, which from the 1930's up until just recently were the main source of leftist-supported muscle. The anarchists are a relatively new source of violent intimidation for the Left.

Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at June 16, 2017 12:43 PM (1Rgee)

19 I am getting really fucking tired of the false equivalency of"both the left and the right have violent extremists". It is bullshit and anyone spreading that blame shifting should be called on it.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 12:44 PM (f5uaD)

20 I wonder if the media realizes that in any violent outbreak they too will likely be targets? Particularly if they're seen as instigating it.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2017 12:44 PM (0tfLf)

21 Newfound respect?

Posted by: Vester Flanagan at June 16, 2017 12:44 PM (m/Gc2)

22 Where's all this "white supremacist" violence they keep blathering on about? Seriously, where is it? I see a shitload of black-on-black violence as a matter of routine and growing violence from the left. So where are all the Klan members and skinheads engaged in all this white supremacist violence?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (0mRoj)

23 The US Government has actively gone after 2 groups of protesters... with full force of law...

Some Rancher's in Arizona... whose trial was a mockery of justice...

And Levoy Finicum... who is not available for comment, as he was gunned down by a Federal Agent, as he was going to talk to a Local Sheriff.

Posted by: Don Q. at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (NgKpN)

24 Just saw the Dem staffers booing and hurling invective when PDT gave his video remarks at the Congressional ballgame.

Civility!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (ul9CR)

25 #5 "Odd that a congressthing's husband inciting violence never made the news."

Exactly. You want to talk about interfering with our elections? Let's investigate this. And what about Donna Brazielle (sp) giving Hillary questions before the CNN debate?

If the shoe had been on the other foot, if the Russians had exposed the Republicans for these kind of things, you can damn well bet the left/media wouldn't be blaming the Russians.

Posted by: mIKE at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (c056A)

26 Always go heeled.

Posted by: Grump928(c) has a list at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (LTHVh)

27 Where is all this violence from the right? I'm not seeing it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (/tuJf)

28 A wise man told me once that if IT ever breaks out, he's not going to go after his neighbors - he's going after the politicians who caused it.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (vg8iE)

29 The anarchists are a relatively new source of violent intimidation for the Left.
=====

Turn of the last century, they were the truly violent ones. Then they used the unions for a while, but are coming back.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2017 12:46 PM (MIKMs)

30 Kristalnacht wouldn't have happened if die Polizei weren't sympathetic to the Brownshirts.


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 12:46 PM (EX4Wr)

31 So where are all the Klan members and skinheads engaged in all this white supremacist violence?
____


Sorry, that's all a made up media narrative, moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: IP at June 16, 2017 12:46 PM (UmSfZ)

32 Outside of bombs at abortion clinics - at the rate of less than one every 5 years - there is no right-wing violence.

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 12:47 PM (7HtZB)

33 The anarchists are a relatively new source of violent intimidation for the Left.

Well, a new incarnation of an old one. "Anarchists" in the last 1800s and early 1900s were prot-communists in Europe and USA using violence and intimidation to try to change policy.

That silly guy with the round bomb and fuse... communist terrorist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:47 PM (39g3+)

34 Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"

"Rule 11: Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog."

Trump is playing this for sympathy. Most people will come to realize that he was the target, by proxy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 12:47 PM (+7/1f)

35 DNC Hired Provocateurs

Chumps. The Republican's worked for free.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 12:48 PM (l4aLi)

36 The left owns the violent BLM, antifa, and all anarchists in general.

They OWN them.

TFG: "They bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." *swishy jazzhands*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 12:48 PM (PY9jH)

37 Wrote (calls later) Flake and McCain. Cant get to post letter here because Word.

But basically, traitors to their constituents for not stopping this Kangaroo Court designed solely to impeach a duly elected President and create leaks that threaten national security. Sent the letter to PDT. It helps me cope somewhat.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'now with more rage' at June 16, 2017 12:48 PM (E8apb)

38 Where's all this "white supremacist" violence they
keep blathering on about? Seriously, where is it? I see a shitload of
black-on-black violence as a matter of routine and growing violence from
the left. So where are all the Klan members and skinheads engaged in
all this white supremacist violence?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (0mRoj)

Almost to a one, those"incidents" they equate with terrorism are prison violence between whit gang members and black or hispanic gang members (and never mind that they don't list the analogue attacks of blacks/hispanics on whites in prison and REALLY never mind that such attacks going both ways are not really about race.)

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 12:48 PM (f5uaD)

39 One of my brothers bought up the abortion clinic bombing thing. I looked it up. You have to go back decades to find the most recent one.

Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 12:49 PM (EX4Wr)

40
In the movie Thirteen Days, there is a line: "The Soviet understands only one thing. Force." At some point there has to be force from the right, because Corporal Hudson's harsh words will not do the trick.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 12:43 PM (X6fMO)

That wasn't Hudson, it was Frost. Just sayin', it was the poor guy's only good line.

Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at June 16, 2017 12:49 PM (1Rgee)

41 Levin says that we're seeing a ratcheting up of political violence by the left (which, he claims, is mirroriing that of the right-- bullshit, of course) and that "nobody gives a shit."

Which Levin? Mark?

Posted by: Guy Who Didn't Buy a Program at June 16, 2017 12:49 PM (wNxxH)

42 TFG: "They bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." *swishy jazzhands*

That was the exact moment when the new era of political violence began. Obama pushed and pushed for this, he wanted it, and he made speech after speech about "getting in their faces" and "pushing harder." He's the start, the catalyst. Its all on him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:49 PM (39g3+)

43 *whit==white

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 12:49 PM (f5uaD)

44 A wise man told me once that if IT ever breaks out, he's not going to go after his neighbors - he's going after the politicians who caused it.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (vg8iE)


Term Limits:

http://tinyurl.com/y9982mjq


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 12:50 PM (X6fMO)

45 "When we have anti-fascist counterprotests -- not that they are the same as white supremacists - that can ratchet up the violence at these events, and it means we can see people who are violent on their own be attracted to that," Segal said. "I hate to say it, but it feels inevitable."

That's less concern about Leftist violence and more the excuse of the other guys actually showed up to counter protest and they don't even take their beatings like sheep. Such bad form is causing violent progressives to show up.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at June 16, 2017 12:50 PM (J70i0)

46 Because once you dehumanize your adversary, anything is possible.

Posted by: USA at June 16, 2017 12:50 PM (ih/NT)

47 Kristalnacht wouldn't have happened if die Polizei weren't sympathetic to the Brownshirts.>>>

See right here is violent extremism from the right. Why such hate for Nancy Pelozie.

Posted by: MSM at June 16, 2017 12:50 PM (r5KeJ)

48 I looked it up. You have to go back decades to find the most recent one.

Yeah when your most recent example of right wing violence predates Whitewater, it doesn't really count.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:51 PM (39g3+)

49 "33 The anarchists are a relatively new source of violent intimidation for the Left.

Well, a new incarnation of an old one. "Anarchists" in the last 1800s and early 1900s were prot-communists in Europe and USA using violence and intimidation to try to change policy.

That silly guy with the round bomb and fuse... communist terrorist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:47 PM (39g3+)"

Yeah, you and mustbequantum are right, I was just leaving out the details. Everything that was old is new again...

Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at June 16, 2017 12:52 PM (1Rgee)

50 "33 The anarchists are a relatively new source of violent intimidation for the Left.

Well, a new incarnation of an old one. "Anarchists" in the last 1800s and early 1900s were prot-communists in Europe and USA using violence and intimidation to try to change policy.

That silly guy with the round bomb and fuse... communist terrorist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:47 PM (39g3+)"

Yeah, you and mustbequantum are right, I was just leaving out the details. Everything that was old is new again...

Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at June 16, 2017 12:52 PM (1Rgee)

51 "33 The anarchists are a relatively new source of violent intimidation for the Left.

Well, a new incarnation of an old one. "Anarchists" in the last 1800s and early 1900s were prot-communists in Europe and USA using violence and intimidation to try to change policy.

That silly guy with the round bomb and fuse... communist terrorist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:47 PM (39g3+)"

Yeah, you and mustbequantum are right, I was just leaving out the details. Everything that was old is new again...

Posted by: Rhymes with Covfefe at June 16, 2017 12:52 PM (1Rgee)

52 We just want to be free of the shitocracy. The violence is aimed at keeping us slaves. We may have to go Nat Turner on them eventually.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2017 12:52 PM (xAvrH)

53 To step back from politics politics to the economy ...

If the economy continues to improve, will young people have an incentive to work, own homes, and start families?

And ...

Who would oppose such a process?

Oops! Back to politics

Posted by: mrp at June 16, 2017 12:52 PM (Pqytn)

54 Political violence on the right ? Sarah Palin, obviously...she is as responsible for all the turmoil and as guilty as ...JJ Sefton. Surely we all can see that...

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 12:52 PM (c6/9Q)

55 Just saw the Dem staffers booing and hurling invective when PDT gave his video remarks at the Congressional ballgame.

Civility!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (ul9CR)



Did Quisling Ryan run up and hug them afterwards?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (493sH)

56 Political terrorism is the sine qua non of Democrats. Period.

When there is only one side using violence as a political tactic, there is no "we".

How do I know this won't stop? They didn't call specifically on their supporters, some who are being paid by organizations connected to Democrats, to stop.

They also continue to falsely attack the president and anyone who supports him.

What they want is for us to stop resisting their despotism. That will never happen. Nobody is going to lie down for these assholes.

People like Paul Ryan need to dig deeper for a bigger pair.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (/yRyv)

57 Did Cruz come out against the DNC provocateurs during PDT's rallies? or was he busy handing out Teddy Bears and soccer balls to illegals. I can't remember.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (l4aLi)

58 I'm ready. This will be there destruction.

Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (3myMJ)

59 A wise man told me once that if IT ever breaks out, he's not going to go after his neighbors - he's going after the politicians who caused it.

If I were to write a book about an American civil war, I'd have the heroes go after the institutions and leaders that caused it, targeting specific things and people who are behind it and the worst problems. Federal departments, leaders, "celebrity leaders" of the left, etc. That's how I'd write fighting a civil war, not with mass armies clashing or people fighting neighbors, not with military vs civilians, but with specific, targeted strikes against the particular enemies and causes, kicking the legs out from under the opposition.

Because once those are gone... the left becomes aimless and helpless, infighting and incompetent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (39g3+)

60 It's not just Democrat's selling this moral equivalence crap; see Jeff Flake just prior to the congressional baseball game being interviewed by Chuck Todd. Come on AZ!

Posted by: WVinMN at June 16, 2017 12:54 PM (Y7Hfw)

61 LOOK WHAT TRUMP MADE ME DO!!!

Posted by: Hillary! at June 16, 2017 12:54 PM (qJhUV)

62 ...hell, at this point we have Loretta "Baby GOT Back"Lynch former AG calling for "armed" resistance and masked "professors" cold-cocking people w/bike locks. Gonna be a long summer...

Posted by: pahound at June 16, 2017 12:54 PM (pn+wY)

63 seriously you guys, read Josh Schlossberg's article in Boulder Weekly. "Locals pick sides in 'free speech, hate speech' debate". I assume that as a Boulderite named 'Schlossberg' he didnt vote Trump . . .

This article is actually fair to the Proud Boys (whose rally I did not attend) and worried about "antifa" violence. Schlossberg further notes some schlub in Co Springs who attended a rally, and then the local antifa put out signs "outing" him "our neighbor is a fascist".

anyway: excellent work, and I am amazed it saw print here.

Posted by: xHamster sysadmin at June 16, 2017 12:54 PM (94ccS)

64 Did Quisling Ryan run up and hug them afterwards?
========

Probably was the damn majorette out there leading it on.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 16, 2017 12:55 PM (vg8iE)

65 The closest things you can get to recent "right wing" violence are Eric Rudolph and the guy who shot Tiller the Killer.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 12:55 PM (0mRoj)

66 'their' destruction.

Ugh.

Posted by: Meremortal, ISIS IS CNN. at June 16, 2017 12:55 PM (3myMJ)

67 Did Cruz come out against the DNC provocateurs
during PDT's rallies? or was he busy handing out Teddy Bears and soccer
balls to illegals. I can't remember.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (l4aLi)

Will Under Fire ever stop repeating primary season lies?

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 12:55 PM (f5uaD)

68 now there was a sock fail I didn't want.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 12:55 PM (94ccS)

69 59.

Yup.

Posted by: WVinMN at June 16, 2017 12:55 PM (Y7Hfw)

70 >>I hate to say it, but it feels inevitable.

Oh, you hate to say it?

It's already happened.

This seems to be a recent quote and he's still in denial.

Gee, how great that he's considering maybe noticing what's going on.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2017 12:56 PM (wwL6Q)

71 Pres. Trump in Miami to roll back some of Barry's open door policies with Cuba. Limit travel and business that can be done there. Of course the lefties are out protesting. Of course the signs are HATE with a red line through it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 12:56 PM (493sH)

72 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (39g3+)

I'd add in a religious group that Judges those who run Hollywood, for their immorality...

And of course... the Banksters... have hackers crash the system...

Posted by: Don Q. at June 16, 2017 12:56 PM (NgKpN)

73 57 Did Cruz come out against the DNC provocateurs during PDT's rallies? or was he busy handing out Teddy Bears and soccer balls to illegals. I can't remember.


No, he took a shot at Trump.

But PDT and The Cruzinator have buried the hatchet. Let's let bygones be bygones on it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at June 16, 2017 12:57 PM (ul9CR)

74 Even the GOPe is OK with this.

Maybe we should back off from this a little?

Why? We can fundraise off of this! Shoot a few more of our backbenchers if you want! It's lining our pockets, ba-bay!

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 12:57 PM (CMbMd)

75 True conservatives like Jennifer Rubin correctly blame Wednesday's shooting on Trump. Impeachment and installing Hillary as POTUS would calm tensions.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at June 16, 2017 12:57 PM (OD2ni)

76 Some Republican should catalog all the instance of calls for violence, actual violence and fallacious, frothy political attacks coming from the cradle of craziness, CNN.

They should then dare Democrats to put up their own list of facts. Of which there are none.

But no republican has the stones.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 12:57 PM (/yRyv)

77 Leftists are typical bullies - will run as soon as you kick their ass.

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 12:57 PM (c6/9Q)

78 Trump wants to limit travel and business until Cuba releases the restrictions they hold on their people.

But Trump = HATE

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 12:58 PM (PY9jH)

79

I had forgotten about this (Clinton) thing.

Boy, we can't even keep up with the horrors of the left on a day to day basis, let alone just the past 8 years.

This is all so ugly, and they dare to equate both sides.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 12:58 PM (fceHP)

80 Obama/Soros used an old playbook to instigate a lot of confrontational and violent street theater in the run-up to the 2016 election. e.g., BLM

Some of this was intended to make Trump look like the instigator. For awhile this worked, as even people on the right -- including many thought leaders -- took the bait.

But in the end it didn't work. The BLM stuff ended with shot cops. It's one of the things that at the margin cost Hillary the election.

And it won't work now.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 12:58 PM (+7/1f)

81 The left (or at minimum those with the literal and metaphorical speaking platforms) want to dismiss the Alexandria shooter as a lone crazy. Here's the problem with that: his espoused ideology is not at all any different from mainstream MSM/Democrat talking points. He was ideologically indistinguishable from Kamala Harris, Rachel Maddow, Tim Kaine, etc. up until he started shooting Repiblicans. There is no ideological distinction. That's the truly damning part of this, and why the left is in a tizzy to justify it or deflect with "the right does it too, so shut up." Every person that has railed against Trump and Russia, said repealing Obamacare is tantamount to murder... they have all felt just a tinge of what the Alexandria shooter felt. And they all know it. If anything, the shooter just let the cat out of the bag.

On the other hand, if the left truly wants this guy dismissed as a fringe crazy, then they have to dismiss EVERYONE that believes the things he does. Clean house in the DNC, CNN, NYT, WaPo, the list goes on for days. Because if he is a crazy, then so are many, many others.

If the Dems and media clean house, then the shooter was a fringe nut not acceptable to the majority of the party. In fact, they have to if they want to credibly make that claim, even if it isn't true. If the Dems and media continue to defend and deflect, then they intend to continue with the ideology that drove, so far, one man to attempted murder. But I think we all know which of those two options the left will pick: the same option they always have. What is less clear is where we go from there.

Posted by: deplorable shillelagh at June 16, 2017 12:59 PM (FIcZA)

82 The economy is improving enough here, that millennials are beginning to buy homes rather than pay high rent.

Of course, our local paper will credit TFG.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM (PY9jH)

83 It's like punching someone in the face repeatedly and then stating, "you know WE should really try to get along".

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM (/yRyv)

84 "Levin says that we're seeing a ratcheting up of political violence by the left (which, he claims, is mirroriing that of the right-- bullshit, of course)"


Bullshit? I am permanently paralyzed from getting my arm grabbed.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM (OD2ni)

85 That Vice article is full of so much mushy language and flat out lies it makes me want to scream.


https://twitter.com/nowhere_nh/status/875699763517296640



Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM (4df7R)

86 Rubio welcoming PDT to Miami.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM (PY9jH)

87 >>Left-wing extremism, of course, is nothing new. Groups like the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers have deep roots, and in the years after 9/11, Segal says, the largest source of extremist violence was from the Left: eco-terrorists and animal rights activists.


>>The embrace by the far left of tactics that were previously the purview of the far right


"How many times can we say we're worried about far right violence in this piece about far left violence?"

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2017 01:01 PM (wwL6Q)

88 As an outside observer it strikes me as possible that the U.S. is heading for some seriously bad things happening. But nobody in the Democratic Party or the media seems even remotely interested in stepping back from the brink.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at June 16, 2017 01:01 PM (hJrjt)

89 Kristalnacht wouldn't have happened if die Polizei weren't sympathetic to the Brownshirts.

Posted by: JAS


My Jewish grandfather left Austria in '33. I really do think conservatives in blue states need to realize these people are sociopathic scum who move closer towards Naziism with each passing day, and there needs kind of exodus (pun intended). But I'm a hypocrite, as a Noo Yawka, so I don't blame you if you have overriding reasons to stay in CA.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2017 01:01 PM (xAvrH)

90 Rubio welcoming PDT to Miami.


Kum-ba-yah

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 01:02 PM (c6/9Q)

91 One thing that needs to stop is the ongoing description of BLM as a peaceful movement.

Peaceful movements don't burn down and loot hundreds of businesses and assassinate cops five at a time.

Whenever I mention this to lefties they say oh well the people who did those things weren't "members" of BLM, as if BLM accredits their "members".

the double standard is intolerable.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at June 16, 2017 01:02 PM (Q5ALd)

92 Remember when Chinless Holder prosecuted the New Black Panthers for threatening white voters?

Yeah, me neither.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)

93 Somebody will have to point out a consistent factual pattern of escalating violence being undertaken by Republicans. Because I don't know one.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:02 PM (/yRyv)

94 Moron pop quiz:

Starbucks customer says she was bullied for supporting Trump - DRUDGE

What is wrong with this headline? Show your work.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:02 PM (l4aLi)

95 That's behind the scenes - how about the terrorists and convicted felons that put in prominent positions?

Recent examples:
-- Oscar Rivera Lopez, convicted FALN terrorists, leads the NYC Puerto Rico Day parade last weekend
-- Palestinian terrorist Rasmea Odeh (now deported) organizer of Day Without Women march in March 2017
-- Convicted felon Donna Hylton (kidnap, torure, murder of man) featured speaker of Women's March in January 2017

Personnel is policy. They can't say they don't support violence when they select terrorists and violent felons to lead their marches!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 01:02 PM (NOIQH)

96 The Dems cannot clean house because they lost their minds years ago.

Try getting Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi to speak only in civil tones and they will both stroke-out sputtering.


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 01:03 PM (EX4Wr)

97 "That Vice article is full of so much mushy language and flat out lies it makes me want to scream."


Vice is a lefty rag, first and foremost. But acknowledging the problem on the left puts them ahead of the likes of HuffPo which celebrated the shooting.


Posted by: Benji Carver at June 16, 2017 01:03 PM (OD2ni)

98 If the right ever did rise thee most afraid thing on this planet would be the leftist.

The left fights for handouts. Their heroes are the slime of humanity. The Che's, the castros, the chairman Maos

The right fights for god and country.

The right's heros are the guys who marched in winter with rags on their feet during our revolution. The guys who stormed the beaches at Normandy, or raised the flag at Iwo Jima, or died in the mud in Vietnam, or the shitholes of the ME.

The guys who the left constantly spit on.

When the right takes the field with all those dude's sacrifices at our backs, the country in the balance, and the enemy of all that is good in front, and all of that gets poured down the barrel of a rifle...

The...left...is...fucking...dead.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at June 16, 2017 01:03 PM (aMlLZ)

99 Some other violent people the Dems/Left are happy to embrace:
-- Al Sharpton was Obama's liason to the black community and had an MSNBC show for years. He has blood on his hands.
-- Bill Ayers actively shaping public school curricula. He has blood on his hands.

How many others?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 01:04 PM (NOIQH)

100 My basketball moves were too street for my high school team. I've been bringing the pain for decades.

Posted by: Preezy 44 at June 16, 2017 01:04 PM (bc2Lc)

101 True conservatives like Jennifer Rubin correctly blame Wednesday's shooting on Trump. Impeachment and installing Hillary as POTUS would calm tensions.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at June 16, 2017 12:57 PM (OD2ni)


In a sane world, the only thing Jen Rubin would be writing would be her bill for gargling Mitt Romney's balls.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 01:05 PM (X6fMO)

102 interesting that he left Austria in 1933. the Austrofascist regime was allied with Mussolini, who made a point (then) of not being an antisemite. i think the Nazis even murdered some Austrofascists for standing in their way.

maybe he saw where the wind was blowing. I know that Poland tacked sharply anti-Semitic already right before Hitler rolled in

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 01:05 PM (94ccS)

103
Vice is a lefty rag, first and foremost. But
acknowledging the problem on the left puts them ahead of the likes of
HuffPo which celebrated the shooting.







Posted by: Benji Carver at June 16, 2017 01:03 PM (OD2ni)


Oh, I know. But if you read the article, as Mama AJ rightly points out,


"How many times can we say we're worried about far right violence in this piece about far left violence?"

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2017 01:01 PM (wwL6Q)


It's all about saying, "Yeah, some of us on the left are being bad right now, BUT THE RIGHT'S JUST AS BAD AND BY THE WAY HAVE BEEN DOING IT LONGER!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 16, 2017 01:05 PM (4df7R)

104 Where is all this violence from the right? I'm not seeing it.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2017 12:45 PM (/tuJf)

Remember when Rep Joe Wilson hollered out 'You Lie!' at O'Bumbles' SOTU address? That was violence as per today's definition.
Our free speech is violence and their violence is free speech. Don't ever forget that!

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2017 01:05 PM (JO9+V)

105 Remind me, did we ever have someone call for a "punch a Democrat Day"?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:05 PM (/yRyv)

106 Levin says that we're seeing a ratcheting up of political violence by the left (which, he claims, is mirroriing that of the right-- bullshit, of course) and that "nobody gives a shit."



That must be one weird mirror he's using

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:05 PM (493sH)

107 Mention of TFG by Rubio met with "boos" in Miami.

Mention of PDT met with loud cheers.

Cuban Americans loving Trump.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:05 PM (PY9jH)

108 Leftists are just retarded. The media announces that Trump is a symbol of everything evil, like Emmanuel Goldstein, and they just uncritically believe it, and engage in the five minutes hate.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2017 01:06 PM (xAvrH)

109 My bosses think I'm soft and compliant, my customers know that I'm not.

It's MY JOB! to be nice to my bosses, it's also my JOB to hold my "customers" to account for them fucking up their warranty. and it was my job to kill people.

I "joke" "most of the time I'm the smartest man in the room who can kill all of you, but that's not my job."

I BEG of the left, don't make that my job.

Posted by: wickedpinto at June 16, 2017 01:06 PM (AhkOx)

110 Paul Joseph Watson and Scott Adams have been vindicated. The only thing they can enjoy from that is knowing they won't be Cassandras any more.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 16, 2017 01:06 PM (VdICR)

111 Remember when Chinless Holder prosecuted the New Black Panthers for threatening white voters?

Yeah, me neither.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)

If memory serves, it was worse than not prosecuting... they had already been convicted and his Justice Department went to court and had the judgement vacated.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:07 PM (f5uaD)

112 Found out today that Hall-of-Famer Bobby Doerr, at 99, is the oldest living major league player, the last one to have played against Lou Gehrig and one of just three to have begun their MLB careers before World War II.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 01:07 PM (BWL+E)

113 Rubio sounding like Trump.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 01:07 PM (Fmupd)

114 Barry never met a dictator he didn't admire.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:08 PM (PY9jH)

115 The next step in the Democrats' playbook:

A woman in Massachusetts has been convicted of manslaughter because her text messages drove her boyfriend to commit suicide.

Democrats will find some despondent Democrat who they will say killed himself and they will allege that Donald Trump's tweets drove that person to suicide.

Donald Trump will then be charged with manslaughter in Massachusetts.

Stand by.

I shit you not.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 16, 2017 01:08 PM (4AVeu)

116 >> One side has its leaders, figureheads, and celebrities fomenting anger with their violent rhetoric on the news and on their late-night TV "entertainment" shows. When there is an incident, these leaders make excuses for the perpetrators.


But Ted Nugent said some bad stuff about Obama!!!!!!

Posted by: Dems on my Facebook feed at June 16, 2017 01:08 PM (moKYV)

117 Have the media warned about backlash against leftwing scum?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at June 16, 2017 01:09 PM (hJrjt)

118 The only Right-wing violence the Left can claim is the rash of fake hate crimes after Trump was elected.

The have the SPLC stats, which are totally unscientific - just compilation of unverified tips submitted to them - and nothing else.

If they want to say Trump's trash talk is violence, then Obama's "punch back twice as hared"/"get in their faces" must be included.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 01:09 PM (NOIQH)

119

This is close to Rubio's heart.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:09 PM (fceHP)

120 Half of our neighbors are liberals(Seattle burb).
There will be a meat puzzle left in the street if/when
the balloon goes up.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:09 PM (l4aLi)

121 Rubio sounding like Trump.

=====


Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon....

He was all over that Russia red herring a few days ago

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 01:09 PM (c6/9Q)

122

ADL can fuck right off

Bet Segal gets fired for his comments


ADL now run like an arm of Obama's shadow govt

Posted by: ThunderB at June 16, 2017 01:10 PM (UmSLw)

123 Kristalnacht wouldn't have happened if die Polizei weren't sympathetic to the Brownshirts.
------------

I reiterate, Rachel Maddow's TV rants no more caused the shooting in Virginia than Hitler's Nuremberg speeches caused Kristalnacht.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2017 01:10 PM (OdK9v)

124 Funny how the "antifascists" miss the whole "appointed by someone who was himself unelected to appease a tide of political violence" thing with Hitler. They barely could be any more historically fascistic if they tried.

Closer parallels between Trump and Hitler or Bernie and Hitler? Which one was a failure at nearly anything other than political agitation, claimed to be a representative of the downtrodden (and cheated) in as many ways as Trump or more while suggesting negative remedies instead of positive ones?

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 16, 2017 01:10 PM (eXSOZ)

125 Democrats will find some despondent Democrat who they will say killed himself and they will allege that Donald Trump's tweets drove that person to suicide.

Donald Trump will then be charged with manslaughter in Massachusetts.

Well his election did make me eat pancakes and blimp up

Posted by: Bette Midler at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (O2RFr)

126 Remember when Chinless Holder prosecuted the New Black Panthers for threatening white voters?

Yeah, me neither.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


Don't be speciesist. He is chin challenged because he is a sloth American.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (xAvrH)

127 >>Remind me, did we ever have someone call for a "punch a Democrat Day"?



Did we ever stage a series of "Day of Rage" protests like the Left did as part of their OWS movement?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (NOIQH)

128 They are going to start bombing us next.

Posted by: Max Power at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (q177U)

129 I'm in stand by mode myself.

I'm hopeful that things will die down without a full furball. But that's not what I'm planning for.

I will say, in real life, I'm not seeing quite as much vitriol. But I stay on the Eastside and away from Seattle and centers of leftist craziness.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (3OIiX)

130 BEIRUT (AP) -- Russia claimed Friday it killed the leader of the Islamic State group in an airstrike targeting a meeting of IS leaders just outside the group's de facto capital in Syria.

The Russian Defense Ministry said Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in a Russian strike in late May along with other senior group commanders.

There had been previous reports of al-Baghdadi being killed but they did not turn out to be true. The IS leader last released an audio on Nov. 3, urging his followers to keep up the fight for Mosul as they defend the city against a major offensive that began weeks earlier.

The spokesman for the U.S.-led anti-IS coalition said in a statement Friday he could not confirm the Russian claim.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (e8kgV)

131 wickedpinto at June



got to the previous thread too late to give you my marriage advice so I dragged it over. not that I think my advice is especially important but I wanted to do everything possible to help a young couple starting out.




well, you should not be too concerned over the political differences. Generally speaking, in reasonable and civilized societies it is customary for the wife to adopt the husbands political positions following marriage, regardless of how different, and in this case warped, her positions may have been before marriage.

You do have some responsibility in ensuring that this transition is both smooth and quick. You will find generous application of the phrases "what did I tell you" and "do not make me remind you again" will ensure a timely transition to rationality. should everything else fail you may have to resort to spankings which will likely have salutary benefits for everyone involved.

good luck and best wishes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (0wem/)

132 I reiterate, Rachel Maddow's TV rants no more caused
the shooting in Virginia than Hitler's Nuremberg speeches caused
Kristalnacht.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2017 01:10 PM (OdK9v)


Well, if you put it that way...

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (c6/9Q)

133 Bullshit? I am permanently paralyzed from getting my arm grabbed.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM (OD2ni)


You still have an arm?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 01:12 PM (hLRSq)

134 ADL now run like an arm of Obama's shadow govt
=====

ADL has always been an arm of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2017 01:12 PM (MIKMs)

135 "107 Mention of TFG by Rubio met with "boos" in Miami.

Mention of PDT met with loud cheers.

Cuban Americans loving Trump.
Posted by: Jane D'oh"


Impossible. Florida is going Hillary big time. It will be an early night.

Posted by: Bully Wynn at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (OD2ni)

136 Remember how the Tea Party was violent and spat on John Lewis?

Yeah, me neither.

But the OWS rapists all got a free pass because special.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (PY9jH)

137 123 Kristalnacht wouldn't have happened if die Polizei weren't sympathetic to the Brownshirts.
_____________________________________

Kristalnacht also wouldn't have happened if the rich, greedy Jews hadn't bought all those glass windows.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (4AVeu)

138 Flashback: DNC Hired Provocateurs, With Hillary Campaign's Money, to Start Violence at Trump Rallies===

When some Republicritter gets the lead out and, realizing that the left has declared war on his sorry ass too, starts publicly defending PDT and counterattacking against the left, this information may become useful.



Until then? Meh.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (C52a9)

139 Well sure the Nazis have been getting ever violent in their marches and protests. But so have the Joos in their Warsaw Ghetto.

So both sides just need to calm the eff down.

Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling the Prog Left back in '43 at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (JO9+V)

140 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM

A most cromulent rant, Beth.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (p+Wdc)

141 Impossible. Florida is going Hillary big time. It will be an early night.

Posted by: Bully Wynn at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (OD2ni)



Wolf Blitzed is still waiting for some counties to come in

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:14 PM (493sH)

142 110 Paul Joseph Watson and Scott Adams have been vindicated. The only thing they can enjoy from that is knowing they won't be Cassandras any more.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 16, 2017 01:06 PM (VdICR)

PJW seems like the most sane voice out there right now.

And yet he's somehow tied at the hip to Alex Jones...

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 01:14 PM (CMbMd)

143 I can't link it right now. But go to the Daily Caller. They have a good article on "The List of Attacks on Conservatives is Mind-Blowing".

It's a good complement to this post.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:14 PM (/yRyv)

144
Impossible. Florida is going Hillary big time. It will be an early night.

Nyet,Vee have this covered

Posted by: The RUSSIANS at June 16, 2017 01:14 PM (O2RFr)

145 136 Remember how the Tea Party was violent and spat on John Lewis?

Yeah, me neither.

But the OWS rapists all got a free pass because special.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:13 PM (PY9jH)


Worse yet, the murderers at Occupy Oakland got a free pass too, I think.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 01:14 PM (CMbMd)

146 Intersectionality!

protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (kD8Fh)

147 This shitbird that shot up the baseball practice? How did he get the money to travel to the DC area, and live there for weeks with no job? How do we know he wasn't cultivated by leftist agents, given some walking-around money, and turned loose there simply to do whatever damage he could?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (XUcIQ)

148

now Pence up

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (fceHP)

149 Bullshit? I am permanently paralyzed from getting my arm grabbed.



Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 16, 2017 01:00 PM (OD2ni)





You still have an arm?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 01:12 PM


*sniff8

An arm, you heartless bastard!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (p+Wdc)

150 I wonder why the Obamas named their youngest moochette "Sasha"?

Because RUSSIANS???!!!!???

Throw that silly crap right back at them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (PY9jH)

151 Intersectionality!

protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (kD8Fh)



Which special interest group outranks the other one?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (493sH)

152 Hey, MSM:

Politicians pride themselves on their ability to speak and influence people's opinions and thinking and motivate them to behave differently, right? Hell, they run for office touting those abilities in order to win primaries and get elected.

Yet now you say for anyone to think that a liberal's words had any effect toward causing another person to shoot Republicans is somehow preposterous.

You are duplicitous assholes. GFY

Posted by: Denny Crane! at June 16, 2017 01:16 PM (pP7NB)

153 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.

Seems he all but admitted guilt... Why is it taking so long to find him guilty?.... Never mind...

Posted by: The RUSSIANS at June 16, 2017 01:17 PM (O2RFr)

154 130 BEIRUT (AP) -- Russia claimed Friday it killed the leader of the Islamic State group in an airstrike targeting a meeting of IS leaders just outside the group's de facto capital in Syria.

The Russian Defense Ministry said Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in a Russian strike in late May along with other senior group commanders.

There had been previous reports of al-Baghdadi being killed but they did not turn out to be true. The IS leader last released an audio on Nov. 3, urging his followers to keep up the fight for Mosul as they defend the city against a major offensive that began weeks earlier.

The spokesman for the U.S.-led anti-IS coalition said in a statement Friday he could not confirm the Russian claim.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 01:11 PM (e8kgV)

Trust us, you would think he died about five years ago if you've ever been close enough to smell him.

Posted by: ISIS at June 16, 2017 01:17 PM (4ErVI)

155
147 This shitbird that shot up the baseball practice? How did he get the money to travel to the DC area, and live there for weeks with no job? How do we know he wasn't cultivated by leftist agents, given some walking-around money, and turned loose there simply to do whatever damage he could?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (XUcIQ)

Paging Mr. Creamer? Mr. Robert Creamer? A Mrs. Hodgkinson wants to know if she still gets paid even if her husband is shot dead.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 01:17 PM (CMbMd)

156
Intersectionality!



protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (kD8Fh)


Maybe they will have a dance off?

Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling the Prog Left back in '43 at June 16, 2017 01:18 PM (JO9+V)

157 I honor of PDT's visit to Miami, I just swigged a Starbucks Cuban Double Espresso.

Yowza. *shaky hands*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:18 PM (PY9jH)

158 Intersectionality!

protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.



Oh, to have a package of firecrackers to get the party started.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2017 01:18 PM (E9ede)

159 An arm, you heartless bastard!


Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (p+Wdc)


I am *not* heartless - I have several on display.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 01:18 PM (hLRSq)

160 I wonder why the Obamas named their youngest moochette "Sasha"?

==

Illiterate twats, Natasha is not Sasha

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM (c6/9Q)

161

ot

yikes

MATT DRUDGE

Tons of stress on cablenews as competition heats. Maddow and Tucker have recently been out on medicals. Another host appears heavily drugged


Tucker?

his show focus is stressful in general - going after the left's bs

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM (fceHP)

162 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.
====

I would like to be a street vendor there with a cart full of Jello Pudding Pops.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM (C52a9)

163

Trump up!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM (fceHP)

164 I would like a cubano right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM (/tuJf)

165 "protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups."



PCU was way ahead of its time.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 16, 2017 01:20 PM (OD2ni)

166 Trump up.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 01:20 PM (Fmupd)

167 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.
====

I would like to be a street vendor there with a cart full of Jello Pudding Pops.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM


Now that would be freakin' hilarious!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 01:20 PM (p+Wdc)

168 llivestream Trump Miami appearance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwLetVEzRrI

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:20 PM (kD8Fh)

169 yankee I responded in the previous post, thank you for your thoughts, but I think I got this. . . We've known eachother since before the internet was the internet, in fact we kinda built a game together. Meaning I built the game, she helped me with grammar and violent descriptions.

Posted by: wickedpinto at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (AhkOx)

170 162 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.
====

I would like to be a street vendor there with a cart full of Jello Pudding Pops.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM (C52a9)

LOL.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (wtvvX)

171 are cuban cigars legal now ?

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (c6/9Q)

172 "I honor of PDT's visit to Miami, I just swigged a Starbucks Cuban Double Espresso.

Yowza. *shaky hands*
Posted by: Jane D'oh"


I swigged a bottle of rum out of depression. Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (OD2ni)

173 I understand the GOPe loves a good Kumbaya moment just as much as the left, but their response to the Scalise shooting should have been swift and vocal against leftist violence - not the spineless "let's all come together - this isn't a left or right issue..." blah blah blah. Had this happened via a right wing shooter, the dem/prog party would have been very specific in denouncing the entire right as crazed lunatics. It's this weak approach to everything - except of course bashing their own constituents - that infuriates.

Posted by: MSTisdale at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (g9d8D)

174 147 This shitbird that shot up the baseball practice? How did he get the money to travel to the DC area, and live there for weeks with no job? How do we know he wasn't cultivated by leftist agents, given some walking-around money, and turned loose there simply to do whatever damage he could?
___________________________________

Curious how nothing has been reported about this guy.

We know nothing about this guy other than what his Facebook page said and his "friends" and "neighbors" say.

Law enforcement hasn't even ruled out that he acted alone.

Highly irregular.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (4AVeu)

175


I wonder if he slips and says Little Marco

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (fceHP)

176 time to start wearing body cameras at all events. you can guarantee they will video you returning the punch. we need to record their fighting words and first assault.

Posted by: arbitrary turn back at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (8RQER)

177 Sock.

Off.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (4AVeu)

178 "171 are cuban cigars legal now ?"


I've got one for you. Tastes funny though.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (OD2ni)

179 yankee I responded in the previous post, thank you for your thoughts, but I think I got this. . . We've known eachother since before the internet was the internet, in fact we kinda built a game together. Meaning I built the game, she helped me with grammar and violent descriptions.
Posted by: wickedpinto at June



well, I assumed you did have it in hand but wanted to offer some things that went unsaid in the earlier thread, probably for good reason.

in all sincerity, best wishes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (0wem/)

180 171 are cuban cigars legal now ?

I'm not sure but, DR cigars are better then Cuban cigars now.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (l4aLi)

181 "protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups."

Can we agree no matter who gets injured, we are all winners today ?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (/yRyv)

182 That Vice article is full of so much mushy language and flat out lies it makes me want to scream.

https://twitter.com/nowhere_nh/status/87569976351729664

Posted by: MWR,


Good run down.

Then again, we should expect nothing less from the hipster journos who glide through the internet with only a Reader's Digest version of history.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (udajc)

183
I swigged a bottle of rum out of depression. Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at June 16, 2017 01:21 PM (OD2ni)


Barry O: Reggie just lashed me and oh now here comes the sodomy!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:22 PM (493sH)

184 I always remind the Lefties that the white power groups are on their side regard to Palestinian issues . I also throw in the democrat history of the KKK and their Grand Kleagal , Robert Byrd.

This 'both sides' crap is just that, crap. For every questionable example they raise about violence from the Right there are dozens of concrete examples of violence from the Left.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 01:23 PM (PMkYS)

185 This shitbird that shot up the baseball practice? How did he get the money to travel to the DC area, and live there for weeks with no job? How do we know he wasn't cultivated by leftist agents, given some walking-around money, and turned loose there simply to do whatever damage he could?

he was living in his van outside the Y
told his wife he was going to DC to talk "taxes" with people in DC

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:23 PM (fceHP)

186 Were there comments from anonymous sources close to the president who asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media?

This is not a story without anonymous inside sources.

Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 01:23 PM (m9X4Y)

187 160 I wonder why the Obamas named their youngest moochette "Sasha"?

==

Illiterate twats, Natasha is not Sasha


Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 01:19 PM (c6/9Q)


Exactly. Sasha is short for "Alexander" and "Alexandra".

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 01:23 PM (CMbMd)

188 Bald Bond villain bought Whole Foods.

Better start thinking about reining these dicks in or we're all going to be eating Solyent Green while we waste away in hovels.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 16, 2017 01:24 PM (4ErVI)

189 Curious how nothing has been reported about this guy.

We know nothing about this guy other than what his Facebook page said and his "friends" and "neighbors" say.

Law enforcement hasn't even ruled out that he acted alone.

Highly irregular.




To ask is to answer.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2017 01:24 PM (E9ede)

190 "Alinksy, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"
"Rule 11: Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog."
Trump is playing this for sympathy. Most people will come to realize that he was the target, by proxy."

Trump is back over 50% approval in the basic Rasmussen poll. He's improved to 31% Strongly Approve and 42% Strongly Disapprove, for a net negative of 11%. Obama spent most of his eight years at negative 20% or below.

It's a long game, folks.


Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:24 PM (+7/1f)

191
Intersectionality!



protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:15 PM (kD8Fh)

Jets vs Sharks!
The King of Pop vs Street Punk Toughs! *Squee!* *Grabs crotch* *SQUEE!*

Will the leaders lash their wrists together and fight it out, I wonder.
Who's bad?

Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling the Prog Left back in '43 at June 16, 2017 01:25 PM (JO9+V)

192 Bird dogging rallies
Riots at rally venues
Fake "race" crime hoaxes
Throat punching "nazis"
Post election riots
Antifa
Middlebury
Bike Lock attempted murderer guy
Assasination attempts
Portland murders
etc.

They counter with some schmuk with a Halloween display of Obama hanging effigy.

Yet they persist in their "right is violent" bs

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:25 PM (OdHXU)

193 Trump says a free Cuba is what will soon achieve.

Lefty heads explode!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:25 PM (493sH)

194 See right here is violent extremism from the right. Why such hate for Nancy Pelozie.

Posted by: MSM at June 16, 2017 12:50 PM (r5KeJ)

Bzzzzt! Wrong! Kristallnacht was, what, 1938? The Nazis were still members in good standing of the Left at that date. All the intelligentsia of the day would have told you that, even Walter Duranty. The Nazis didn't become "right wing" until Hitler invaded Russia.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 01:25 PM (XUcIQ)

195 Curious how nothing has been reported about this guy.



We know nothing about this guy other than what his Facebook page said and his "friends" and "neighbors" say.


nothing has been reported about this guy.



Law enforcement hasn't even ruled out that he acted alone.

nothing has been reported about this guy.




Highly irregular.

nothing has been reported about this guy.

===

I remodeled your comment a little. For specificity.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:26 PM (C52a9)

196 I guess the media figures that political street violence is good for ratings.

Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2017 01:26 PM (xjiRE)

197 196 I guess the media figures that political street violence is good for ratings.

Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2017 01:26 PM (xjiRE)

And that dead wrongthinkers is good for Mother Gaia.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 01:28 PM (CMbMd)

198 You have to laugh to keep fom screaming.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/267724/

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 01:28 PM (rmVvL)

199 Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:26 PM (C52a9)

that's why we have NSA to look at stuff people do not report by is of serious concern, red flags, no?

Posted by: runner - all (chicory) covfe-fed up at June 16, 2017 01:28 PM (c6/9Q)

200 Will the leaders lash their wrists together and fight it out, I wonder.
Who's bad?

Dance off!!!

Posted by: tu3031 at June 16, 2017 01:28 PM (qJhUV)

201
I always remind the Lefties that the white power groups are on their
side regard to Palestinian issues . I also throw in the democrat
history of the KKK and their Grand Kleagal , Robert Byrd.



This 'both sides' crap is just that, crap. For every questionable
example they raise about violence from the Right there are dozens of
concrete examples of violence from the Left.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 01:23 PM (PMkYS)

I reminded someone repeatedly yesterday that Nazis were and are NOT right wing... that in fact they arose out of the German National Socialist Worker's Party.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:29 PM (f5uaD)

202 Bzzzzt! Wrong! Kristallnacht was, what, 1938? The Nazis were still members in good standing of the Left at that date. All the intelligentsia of the day would have told you that, even Walter Duranty. The Nazis didn't become "right wing" until Hitler invaded Russia.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 01:25 PM (XUcIQ)



No, the Nazis were on the outs with the commies for the most part. The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were essentially fighting a proxy war in Spain in 36-39. The only time they made nice was during the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact. The lefties changed their tune over night about Germany once the ink dried on that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:29 PM (493sH)

203 "Seems he all but admitted guilt..."

Cosby payed her off to go away and keep her mouth shut. It was obvious he was a dirty-old-man long before this. She revived this when Cosby sued to get his money back because she wasn't keeping her mouth shut. Cosby became a target when he said FSA should "pull up their pants and get a job".

Otherwise the judge probably wouldn't have unsealed part of the record. Since the judge didn't unseal all the record I would guess that there is some real nasty stuff that neither side want to come out in there.

Same quality of judge that unsealed Obama opponent's divorce records so that Obama could get a Senate seat. Seven of Nine had a nice body but was a nasty women to have as an Ex.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 01:29 PM (cfHE9)

204 What's even stranger about the Hodgekinson guy is that he was living out of his van at the Y and had been befriended by the former Alexandria mayor, Bill Euille.

Euille was trying to find him a job. Euille also said that they "shared political viewpoints."

Euille was primaried out of the last mayorial election after being an incredibly corrupt "pay to play" developer corruptocrat for 20 years. He was primaried out by a SJW when the 30% republican population decided that the SJW was better than the corruptocrat.

He then tried to run as a write-in.

Now, he's delusional, on tv, identifying as having the same politics as an assassin and not reporting this guy for living out of a van at the Y.

Also the wife of the assassin thought he might be gay and Euille is a "confirmed batchelor."

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (OdHXU)

205 this Hodgkinson fucker gets creepier and creepier

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7ksygnx

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (nFwvY)

206 If Trump really is being investigated for obstruction of justice, what are his options?

I mean, if he pardons Flynn, doesn't that sort of kill this overnight?

Obstructing justice for someone who was pardoned?

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (rEapd)

207 And why has nothing been reported?

The current state of our media --

CNN - Reports Indicate That A Dazed and Barely Communicative Trump Is Taking Yet Another Lazy Florida Vacation

MSNBC - Trump is All Colluding!! and Conspiracied!! and Obstructioning !!

WAPO - AIIIIGH!!!11!! AIIIIGH!!!11!! AIIIIGH!!!11!!

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (C52a9)

208 "Ratcheting up of violence on the right" is just, from what I have seen, in direct response to violence already being perpetrated on the left. A defensive response, as it were.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (ycWCI)

209

bloodied nuns, he's going full throttle

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (fceHP)

210 My own tinfoil hattery says that FBI doesn't want to get too deep into Illinois democrat politics -- especially with IL in bankruptcy. FBI will try to smooth it down, while allowing those inclined room to riot. I could hope that they are trying to trace connections, but that is really extreme heavy-duty shiny hat wishful thinking.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2017 01:31 PM (MIKMs)

211 Between the personal attacks and violence Democrats are going to lose big.

Trump daily approval just went to 50. He is getting a lot done by slashing regulations and getting job numbers up in key states. Geez we just opened the first coal mine in Pennsylvania for I don't know how many years. If the senate gets off their fat lazy asses we will have an o care replacement.

Democrats have Russia, phony obstruction, impeachment , CNN, the fake NYT and now shooting Congressman to their credit.

Remind me, how did the crazy hate work out for Republicans against Obama in his second term ?

The average voter who makes a difference in our elections hate this crazy political stuff.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:31 PM (/yRyv)

212 Seven of Nine had a nice body but was a nasty women to have as an Ex.



I'd be an epic ex. SMOD would be a better Ex.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:31 PM (OdHXU)

213 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:23 PM (fceHP)

IMO the wife knew exactly what he was up to and kept her mouth shut because she was scared or in on it. Probably in on it based on a prior arrest involving neighbors that indicates to me she is not an innocent bystander.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 01:32 PM (PMkYS)

214 Cosby is gonna walk by 5pm today. No barbit you must acquit.

Posted by: OJ Simpson at June 16, 2017 01:32 PM (bc2Lc)

215 Trump telling it like it is. Talking of the brutality of communism.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 01:32 PM (Fmupd)

216 WAPO - AIIIIGH!!!11!! AIIIIGH!!!11!! AIIIIGH!!!11!!
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (C52a9)

The late Sam Kinison take umbrage at the comparison.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:32 PM (ycWCI)

217 I'm wondering what level of violence will galvanize the Republican party leadership into publicly and forcefully calling out the Democrats. If a Bernie bro shooting up their defenseless colleagues on a baseball diamond wasn't enough, what the hell would be? If all the Congressmen and Senators present had died there in a massacre, which by a fortunate circumstance was averted by two Capitol Hill police officers, would that have done it?

Posted by: JuJuBee at June 16, 2017 01:32 PM (dargh)

218 has until now largely been a modus operandi of the far right.

I'm sorry, WHO, specifically?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2017 01:33 PM (wB8Tg)

219 Illinois on the cusp of being the first US state to declare bankruptcy.

So they have that going for them.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:33 PM (/yRyv)

220 "nothing has been reported about this guy. "

It's a story that the Left and MSM want to bury, to the extent they can. As I keep saying, outbreaks of violence like this hurts their cause.

It's why "Mueller is investigating Jared" leak got played now instead of later. They needed a distraction to fill air time.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:33 PM (+7/1f)

221 I'd be an epic ex. SMOD would be a better Ex.
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:31 PM (OdHXU)

At least with SMOD, there is some peace and quiet eventually. j/k

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:34 PM (ycWCI)

222

Trump playing the dem playbook. Bringing out people afflicted by Cuba's regime.

Fantastic.

Heartstrings and stories.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:34 PM (fceHP)

223 205 this Hodgkinson fucker gets creepier and creepier

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7ksygnx

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (nFwvY)

-Baseball gunman had foster daughter, 17, who committed suicide by dousing her body in gasoline and then lighting herself on fire.

Yikes!

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:34 PM (l4aLi)

224 You know what we really need?

A database.

Details like this need to be listed, keyworded, cross-indexed, so we can compile this bullshit promptly and disseminate it immediately when they start the lectures, instead of relying on remembering something a day or two later on the trailing end of the news cycle.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 01:34 PM (oVJmc)

225 Cosby is gonna walk by 5pm today. No barbit you must acquit.

Posted by: OJ Simpson at June 16, 2017 01:32 PM (bc2Lc)

I think Cosby was probably a dirty old man even when he was young... I also think these women went along with his dirtiness to get ahead (until it profited them more to come out and reap the rewards of victimhood).

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (f5uaD)

226 -Baseball gunman had foster daughter, 17, who committed suicide by dousing her body in gasoline and then lighting herself on fire.

Yikes!
Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:34 PM (l4aLi)

Geez. That's horrible.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (ycWCI)

227 Posting up ......my American Flag in front of my house...
breaking out... the 1000 wt light reserved for when #1 was deployed in Iraq and the Afgan over 5 tours ....the neighbors are going to "get" that something's up over here ...might be a way of saying, "check yo self"
America awakening and maybe a warning?

Hell, this is new territory or maybe old business left undone.........? CIC Trump has got us all thinking that is a fact....

Posted by: Nightwatch at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (kFkpX)

228 This is all Trump's fault! I can say that because I called mommy Clinton to make sure I could so there!

Posted by: Glenn Thrush (D)ickeater at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (SkuXa)

229 213 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:23 PM (fceHP)

IMO the wife knew exactly what he was up to and kept her mouth shut because she was scared or in on it. Probably in on it based on a prior arrest involving neighbors that indicates to me she is not an innocent bystander.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 01:32 PM (PMkYS)


I'm going with the "Paid off by Robert Creamer to do it" theory.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (CMbMd)

230 Okay maybe this is confirmation bias but I can't think of a single attack by a lone rifleman by someone on the far right.

Am I missing something or is this another lie?

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (dEQP3)

231 At least with SMOD, there is some peace and quiet eventually. j/k


Correct. The best way to punish a man is with incessant bitching. My sons fear that above all else. Works like a charm. Don't even have to threaten anything except, "We need to talk."

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (OdHXU)

232 Left-wing extremism, of course, is nothing new. Groups like the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers have deep roots ...

If the Black Panthers are Left-wing extremists, why are the NBPP (New Black Panther Party) labeled as Right-wing extremists by the SPLC ?

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (e8kgV)

233 I think Cosby was probably a dirty old man even when he was young... I also think these women went along with his dirtiness to get ahead (until it profited them more to come out and reap the rewards of victimhood).
Posted by: redbanzai at June




well, if everyone was knowingly taking the drugs, knowing what they were taking, it is really a non-story.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (0wem/)

234 consider the possibility that he murdered her. and other stuff.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (nFwvY)

235 Next on "Vice": Right Wing Hate Machines That Smoke Weed

Posted by: Vice: The Official Network of Hipster Doofuses at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (qJhUV)

236 I think Cosby was probably a dirty old man even when he was young... I also think these women went along with his dirtiness to get ahead (until it profited them more to come out and reap the rewards of victimhood).
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (f5uaD)

My parents had a lot of Cosby records: 200mph, etc. I remember they also had one with his risque nightclub act. It seemed creepy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (ycWCI)

237 205 this Hodgkinson fucker gets creepier and creepier

I think this guy lived at Maximum Rage Level all the time and terrorized his whole family in addition to the outside world.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (oVJmc)

238 "Illinois on the cusp of being the first US state to declare bankruptcy."

CA went broke after the great flood of 1862 turned central CA into a huge inland lake. CAGW!!

Unlike companies, cities and people, there's no legal mechanism for distressed states to equitably reduce their debt obligations. This is a really bad thing for debt-burdened states.

If pressed, these states will come up with short term solutions such as unilaterally (and illegally) delaying payments on some debts. Taxes (especially property taxes) will get jacked.

Without federal assistance, states can get into a financial death spiral.
The states with the biggest exposure are mostly Deep Blue. It's just a question of when.
CA seems intent on moving into the Express Lane to catch up and pass IL.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (+7/1f)

239

another obama "legacy" down the drain

lol, love it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:37 PM (fceHP)

240 Trump says a free Cuba is what will soon achieve.

Lefty heads explode!
Posted by: TheQuietMan



They don't know which way to go. LOL

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2017 01:37 PM (E9ede)

241 are cuban cigars legal now ?

I think so.


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 01:37 PM (EX4Wr)

242 Details like this need to be listed, keyworded, cross-indexed, so we can
compile this bullshit promptly and disseminate it immediately when they
start the lectures, instead of relying on remembering something a day
or two later on the trailing end of the news cycle.
=====

Problem is it would have to be some group like the 4chan whatevers because any regular group, even with some computer savvy, would be shut down immediately.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (MIKMs)

243 Correct. The best way to punish a man is with incessant bitching. My sons fear that above all else. Works like a charm. Don't even have to threaten anything except, "We need to talk."
Posted by: dagny at June



really? i would think forgetting him completely and going on to have a fabulous existence would be a much better option. especially for the ex. unless that was not an option.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (0wem/)

244 If all the Congressmen and Senators present had died there in a massacre, which by a fortunate circumstance was averted by two Capitol Hill police officers, would that have done it?

No.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (X6fMO)

245 Someone yelled "Four more years!" at Trump's rally.

TFG is going to be having another dog for dinner tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (PY9jH)

246 National Socialistiche Deutsche Arbeiters Partei. "National" pronounced "Nazi o nal ". national socialist German workers party.
Nazi.
Thus endeth the lesson.

Posted by: RI Red. Still deplorable, but with more covfefe! at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (JwHc9)

247 If I were to write a book about an American
civil war, I'd have the heroes go after the institutions and leaders
that caused it, targeting specific things and people who are behind it
and the worst problems. Federal departments, leaders, "celebrity
leaders" of the left, etc. That's how I'd write fighting a civil war,
not with mass armies clashing or people fighting neighbors, not with
military vs civilians, but with specific, targeted strikes against the
particular enemies and causes, kicking the legs out from under the
opposition.



Because once those are gone... the left becomes aimless and helpless, infighting and incompetent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 12:53 PM (39g3+)



Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matt Bracken

Posted by: Country Singer at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (yzxic)

248 Obstructing justice for someone who was pardoned?

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (rEapd)


No, obstructing Hillary from the White House! That's what is, has been, and will be. World without end. Amen.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (hLRSq)

249 are cuban cigars legal now ?

I think so.


Posted by: JAS at June




yeah, not having illegal cigars that you had smuggled in sort of takes the fun out of them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (0wem/)

250 Unlike companies, cities and people, there's no legal mechanism for distressed states to equitably reduce their debt obligations. This is a really bad thing for debt-burdened states.



Remand to territory status until they become solvent.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (E9ede)

251 230 Okay maybe this is confirmation bias but I can't think of a single attack by a lone rifleman by someone on the far right.

Am I missing something or is this another lie?
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (dEQP3)

I don't think you are wrong. Most of the cases I can think of are usually people who have been attributed to the right, but not actual traditionalists. Family, Faith, and Service just usually do not go down that path.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (ycWCI)

252
this Hodgkinson fucker gets creepier and creepier



http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7ksygnx

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (nFwvY)


Huh. Another foster kid was removed from the home after he discharged a firearm.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (PY9jH)

253

"Cancelling the last administrations completely one sided deal with Cuba"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (fceHP)

254 226 -Baseball gunman had foster daughter, 17, who committed suicide by dousing her body in gasoline and then lighting herself on fire.

Yikes!
Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:34 PM (l4aLi)

Geez. That's horrible.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (ycWCI)

------------

I can certainly think of better ways to off one's self.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (Fmupd)

255 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.


It's the start of the Number 6 Dance.

Posted by: Grump928(c) has a list at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)

256 This is not Russian in 1917. This is America. Granted, a wounded and weary America, but we will not allow a revolution here. The aholes on the left would do well to grok that.

Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (zLDYs)

257 Because once you dehumanize your adversary, anything is possible.
====
you mean like the leader of the Democrat Party calling them deplorable and unredeemable?


Posted by: RoyalOil at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (ZQpd0)

258 well, if everyone was knowingly taking the drugs, knowing what they were taking, it is really a non-story.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (0wem/)

If you were drugged and assaulted, would you wait 20 years to report it? I sure wouldn't.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (f5uaD)

259 yeah, not having illegal cigars that you had smuggled in sort of takes the fun out of them.
Posted by: yankeefifth



Just proves Costa Ricans are better.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (E9ede)

260 really? i would think forgetting him completely and going on to have a fabulous existence would be a much better option. especially for the ex. unless that was not an option.Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (0wem/)

Not after this long. Maybe 20 years ago.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (OdHXU)

261 Someone yelled "Four more years!" at Trump's rally.

TFG is going to be having another dog for dinner tonight.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (PY9jH)


That's no way to talk about Michelle.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (X6fMO)

262 If pressed, these states will come up with short term solutions such as unilaterally (and illegally) delaying payments on some debts. Taxes (especially property taxes) will get jacked.

Without federal assistance, states can get into a financial death spiral.
The states with the biggest exposure are mostly Deep Blue. It's just a question of when.
CA seems intent on moving into the Express Lane to catch up and pass IL.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June




like paying vendors with ious but demanding the tax on the sale in cash before the iou is paid?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (0wem/)

263 John Nolte's Twitter page has a picture of Jake Tapper's face superimposed on Jan Brady yelling "Russia Russia Russia". It's hilarious and kind of creepy at the same time.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (OD2ni)

264 I could watch Trump take a dump on Obama's "legacy" all day long.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (/tuJf)

265 Yesterday, on Varney and Co, Ralph Peters, (what a huge disappointment he's become) was asked about violence on the left. His response? Well Trump had some pretty violent people at his rallies. Varney didn't even challenge him.

Posted by: Tami at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Enq6K)

266 Was James Hogkinson one of the "bird dog" thugs sent to Trump events?

Posted by: Tyrone, Kid at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (3ANQu)

267

Trump sweating something awful.
hot stage

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (fceHP)

268 185,
"he was living in his van outside the Y

told his wife he was going to DC to talk "taxes" with people in DC
"

And he left shortly after the NYT reported on the baseball game practice sessions being played out in those fields near the Y. NYT was reporting on security for Congressmen.

Posted by: geoffb5 at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (d3wbb)

269 It seems to be a contradiction , but what's creepy to me about Cosby and these multiple accusations is that none involve actual intercourse. He just diddled them while they were voluntarily under the influence. ( agree that they did not know just how knocked out they would be after accepting the drugs) .

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (PMkYS)

270 adl Levin syas, mirroring.. the right

Would someone Please fkn clue me in when we get massive demonstrations from the right with mayhem and threats against our fellow citizenry?

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (iS1Cb)

271 I could watch Trump take a dump on Obama's "legacy" all day long.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (/tuJf)


me too

it's fabulous!

he's stomping all over that jef's 8years

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (fceHP)

272
Trump sweating something awful.

hot stage

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (fceHP)

It is Florida is June so the temperature there is likely roughly that of the surface of the sun.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (f5uaD)

273 I think Cosby was probably a dirty old man even when he was young... I also think these women went along with his dirtiness to get ahead (until it profited them more to come out and reap the rewards of victimhood).
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (f5uaD)



Yup. That sums it up nicely.

RE: LoserMcDirtbag, I was shocked to hear his wife was alive. I just assumed that he offed the family first because that's how these stories usually go.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (dEQP3)

274 Baseball gunman had foster daughter, 17, who committed suicide by
dousing her body in gasoline and then lighting herself on fire.



Yikes!

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:34 PM (l4aLi)


$5 that he was violating her.



Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (EX4Wr)

275 just to add.....

This is for better or worse, "better" than the last 8 years of that SCOMAAFAOMACATAW or a variation on the standard theme that I have forgotten due to too much "RUM" when he was besooting the office (I vomit now at his memory) and crawl into the layers of my bed.

Nightwatch out.....

Posted by: Nightwatch at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (kFkpX)

276 251 230 Okay maybe this is confirmation bias but I can't think of a single attack by a lone rifleman by someone on the far right.

Am I missing something or is this another lie?
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (dEQP3)

I don't think you are wrong. Most of the cases I can think of are usually people who have been attributed to the right, but not actual traditionalists. Family, Faith, and Service just usually do not go down that path.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (ycWCI)

Closest thing I can come up with is the guy who shot Tiller. However, he was WAAAAY out there and may have been mentally ill.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (0mRoj)

277 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.


It's the start of the Number 6 Dance.
Posted by: Grump928(c)




A-whoopin' & a-whompin'!

(Admit it. You read that in Slim Picken's voice)

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (E9ede)

278 "259 yeah, not having illegal cigars that you had smuggled in sort of takes the fun out of them.
Posted by: yankeefifth"


Agreed. I remember putting them in the diaper bag and thinking I was acting like the dude in Midnight Express.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (OD2ni)

279 Not after this long. Maybe 20 years ago.
Posted by: dagny at June




heh. don't believe it for a minute. pretty sure you would wind up in the south of france in a villa shopping boutiques on some greek billionaires dime. if you wished to.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (0wem/)

280 People are actually protesting the Cosby trial as racist?

The guy who was #1 TV star for 20 years? They want us to think he's being accused because he's BLACK?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (oVJmc)

281 Illinois debt is aleready at junk status and they are $1.5b in the hole. They haven't had a budget in three years and it looks like they don't give a shit. Democrats somehow think this playa to their advantage with voters and really don't give a shit. They don't want a republican governor to get credit for cleaning up their mess- so they will let the entire thing collapse.

It's disgusting.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (/yRyv)

282 >>Details like this need to be listed, keyworded, cross-indexed, so we can
compile this bullshit promptly and disseminate it immediately when they
start the lectures, instead of relying on remembering something a day
or two later on the trailing end of the news cycle.


Yes.

At least /pol/s starting to compile information, but it needs to be readily available from other sources.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (NOIQH)

283 Agreed. I remember putting them in the diaper bag and thinking I was acting like the dude in Midnight Express.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June



heh

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (0wem/)

284 Apparently, The conservative, pro-Trump Patriot Prayer group showed up at Evergreen State College and Insane Asylum yesterday and were greeted by Soros-funded black-shirted Antifa storm troopers.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (e8kgV)

285 Would someone Please fkn clue me in when we get
massive demonstrations from the right with mayhem and threats against
our fellow citizenry?



Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (iS1Cb)

Us "wackobird" Tea Partiers have been consistently (and falsely) accused of exactly that.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (f5uaD)

286 "like paying vendors with ious but demanding the tax on the sale in cash before the iou is paid?"

Yep, Illinois is on the verge of geting kicked out of Powerball and Mega Millions.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (+7/1f)

287 226 -Baseball gunman had foster daughter, 17, who committed suicide by dousing her body in gasoline and then lighting herself on fire.


Holy fuck. That's not just killing yourself, that's sending a message stuff.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:44 PM (0mRoj)

288 Yesterday, on Varney and Co, Ralph Peters, (what a huge disappointment he's become) was asked about violence on the left. His response? Well Trump had some pretty violent people at his rallies. Varney didn't even challenge him.
Posted by: Tami at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (Enq6K)


Peters needs a long vacation.
He has become completely unhinged.
Fox would be kind to force his leave for a while.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:44 PM (fceHP)

289 Well if people didn't keep electing useless Republicans to office (which may be most of them....)

What's the point of the R party anyway? It can't deliver on social issues. Libs in high-tax blue areas benefit the most from tax cuts.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 16, 2017 01:44 PM (dZ756)

290
"nothing has been reported about this guy. "



It's a story that the Left and MSM want to bury, to the extent they
can. As I keep saying, outbreaks of violence like this hurts their
cause.



It's why "Mueller is investigating Jared" leak got played now instead of later. They needed a distraction to fill air time.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:33 PM (+7/1f)

'Member how fast the MFM did a thorough background on Joe the Plumber? Funny, that.

Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling the Prog Left back in '43 at June 16, 2017 01:44 PM (JO9+V)

291 >>People are actually protesting the Cosby trial as racist?
The guy who was #1 TV star for 20 years? They want us to think he's being accused because he's BLACK?

Well, I've seen to comparison between Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby.
Different MO, but....Also, Clinton has spent time on Epstein's Pedo Island (something like 19 visits?).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 01:44 PM (NOIQH)

292 $5 that he was violating her.



Posted by: JAS

that case needs to be reopened. this may be a pair of assholes

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:44 PM (nFwvY)

293 Someone yelled "Four more years!" at Trump's rally.

TFG is going to be having another dog for dinner tonight.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:38 PM (PY9jH)


Correction - he's going to be chugging the Maalox straight from the bottle.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (hLRSq)

294

listing Cuba's atrocities, by citing the actual people affected

good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (fceHP)

295 I think Cosby was probably a dirty old man even when he was young...

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:35 PM (f5uaD)


He's a sick fuck who seems to prefer lifeless, unconscious women to play with - one step above necrophilia. But pretty much all the stories by these women are of them willingly taking drugs with him, usually multiple times. The whole trial is a farce.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (rZ+mb)

296 redbanzai, I must have missed the finger biting, car burning, beating up others through that period of time
while I did happen to notice a clean venue when you guys left.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (iS1Cb)

297 255 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.


It's the start of the Number 6 Dance.

Posted by: Grump928(c) has a list at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)

The Leonard Part 6 Dance.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (CMbMd)

298 Yep, Illinois is on the verge of geting kicked out of Powerball and Mega Millions.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June




now that is too funny. the outrage that will be unleashed when the people cannot get their lottery tickets will be epic.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (0wem/)

299 No, the Nazis were on the outs with the commies for the most part. The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were essentially fighting a proxy war in Spain in 36-39. The only time they made nice was during the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact. The lefties changed their tune over night about Germany once the ink dried on that.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:29 PM (493sH)

Oh, they were rivals alright; both fighting to control the same demographic turf. But all the beautiful people in the West crowed about the "economic miracles" wrought by Mussolini and Hitler, and compared them to the miracles wrought by Stalin.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (XUcIQ)

300 It's the start of the Number 6 Dance.

Posted by: Grump928(c) has a list at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)




Patrick McGoohan: I am not a dance! I am a free man!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (493sH)

301 There were the two whackadoos in Las Vegas that murdered to cops and concealed carrier. Although they were reportedly so crazy that they got kicked off the Bundy ranch.

Posted by: John Marston at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (SkuXa)

302 Would someone Please fkn clue me in when we get massive demonstrations from the right with mayhem and threats against our fellow citizenry?
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:41 PM (iS1Cb)



When you start driving cement trucks again?

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (dEQP3)

303 Illinois debt is aleready at junk status and they
are $1.5b in the hole. They haven't had a budget in three years and it
looks like they don't give a shit. Democrats somehow think this playa
to their advantage with voters and really don't give a shit. They don't
want a republican governor to get credit for cleaning up their mess- so
they will let the entire thing collapse.



It's disgusting.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (/yRyv)

I think I saw that the Mega Millions and Power Ball lotteries are pulling out of Illinois because Illinois cannot pony up for the winnings.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:46 PM (f5uaD)

304 Holy fuck. That's not just killing yourself, that's sending a message stuff.
Posted by: Insomniac

if it even was suicide

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:46 PM (nFwvY)

305 I don't have the sound on, but Trump appears to be tearing it up

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:46 PM (kD8Fh)

306 His response? Well Trump had some pretty violent people at his rallies.

Yeah, as I recall, they were lefties trying to provoke Trump fans to violence so they could claim they were victims.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 01:46 PM (oVJmc)

307 LOL.

My son picked up a few Cuban cigars in Scotland and gave one to me. I asked about Customs.

"There's no Customs agent at the dock when the sub comes home, Dad"


Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 01:47 PM (EX4Wr)

308 Closest thing I can come up with is the guy who shot Tiller. However, he was WAAAAY out there and may have been mentally ill.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM


Beat me to it. That's about as close as I can get.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 01:47 PM (p+Wdc)

309 I think I saw that the Mega Millions and Power Ball lotteries are pulling out of Illinois because Illinois cannot pony up for the winnings.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:46 PM (f5uaD)


That's supposed to happen on June 30 if Illinois doesn't have a budget or can show they can pay their part of the winnings. So bye bye to both

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:47 PM (493sH)

310 I would also like to see the list of violence at Trumps rallies That were Trump supporters and not Left agitators trying to beat up Trump supporters and Trump supporters trying to defend themselves

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:47 PM (iS1Cb)

311 I remember when Giffords was shot and the left was blaming us for creating a climate of hate which caused it. When we pointed out that they were wrong and using it to score political points,
there were multiple lefties enraged that we would dare use the incident to "demonize the dems".
Nothing has changed.
They blame the victim first, then act offended when you point this out.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at June 16, 2017 01:47 PM (+aCe4)

312 Everything that Democrat terrorist, who tired to kill Republicans, has written and said would be met with CHEERS at any Democrat County Convention across the country.

In fact, it has been met with cheers. On the TV. On the radio. On Democrat blogs.

He is not "fringe."

He is not "radical."

He is a mainstream Democrat.

He even referred to himself as a "moderate."

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 16, 2017 01:47 PM (ZQpd0)

313 Baseball gunman had foster daughter, 17, who committed suicide by dousing her body in gasoline and then lighting herself on fire.

So they were Buddhists, huh?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 16, 2017 01:48 PM (rZ+mb)

314 "'Member how fast the MFM did a thorough background on Joe the Plumber? Funny, that."

No one knew anything about Sarah Palin. MSM had no files like they have on anyone "prominent."

But it only took MSM a weekend to go from a standing start to stories about Sarah's two-headed love child.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:48 PM (+7/1f)

315 Yep, Illinois is on the verge of geting kicked out of Powerball and Mega Millions.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June


now that is too funny. the outrage that will be unleashed when the people cannot get their lottery tickets will be epic.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM
(0wem/)


As others have noted, Illinois is so broke it can't pay out the lottery winnings.

I believe the excuse was oh the money is there but due to this or that we can't cut checks over $50k sorry!

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:48 PM (dEQP3)

316 If you were drugged and assaulted, would you wait 20 years to report it? I sure wouldn't.
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (f5uaD)

Hollywood is a cesspool though. If you are an up and coming starlet- or even a semi established one- taking out a complaint against a dude who had a lot of pull in the industry might be bad for you- catastrophic even.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:48 PM (ycWCI)

317 alex gforbid either.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:48 PM (iS1Cb)

318 Trump giving a great speech. Crowd is loving him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (PY9jH)

319 255 protesters are facing off outside the Cosby courthouse. Anti-racists against the wymmynz groups.





It's the start of the Number 6 Dance.



Posted by: Grump928(c) has a list at June 16, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)

... having served as a juror in that same courthouse in an attempted murder case many years ago, I can say that Norristown merchants are probably happy to have them there.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (e8kgV)

320 Who the fuck are the "our share" of right wing folks stepping over the line?????

Lost me right there.

Posted by: Country Boy at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (NgTwH)

321 Victor Laszlo wasn't a Conservative.

Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (EX4Wr)

322 Liberals should be pleased - now Cuba can stay "authentic" & not have icky modern hotels & cars to take away the charm of Havana.

Posted by: josephistan at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (7HtZB)

323 To those asking about Cosby protesters: they were smallish groups but loud. The wymmynz brought their own masked drummers.

There's too much inconsistency in the accuser's testimony, that's why the jury hasn't arrived at any verdicts yet.

Somebody rapes you and then you call him up three times on Valentines' Day?

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (kD8Fh)

324 redbanzai, I must have missed the finger biting, car burning, beating up others through that period of time

while I did happen to notice a clean venue when you guys left.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (iS1Cb)

IKR... I remember my kids picking up trash off the ground that was there before the rally all the while fussing to me about people so rude and lazy that they couldn't even walk to the readily available trash cans:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (f5uaD)

325 "We need some muscle over here."
"Kill the pigs, fry 'em like bacon."
"Burn it down."

Just reliving, for a second, Ferguson fun times.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (6jaju)

326 The media has fomented leftist violence and made excuses for it after-the-fact at every turn.

Reminds me of the relationship between Sinn Fein and the IRA.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (jhqr1)

327 Illinois isn't going to get a budget. It's not going to happen. So goodbye powerball and Mega.

Also I bid adieu to the holders of their bonds. Somebody is going to get left with no chair. Oddly a judge ordered they must pay state workers. No word on whether they can fire some of their bloated asses.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (/yRyv)

328 Somebody rapes you and then you call him up three times on Valentines' Day?

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (kD8Fh)


Chinese Wall!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 16, 2017 01:50 PM (rZ+mb)

329 I don't have the sound on, but Trump appears to be tearing it up

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:46 PM (kD8Fh)



He just announced he's canceling Barry's deal with Cuba. Cuba policy looks to be going back to pre-Barry. Once Barry shakes off the coke and cock from last night he'll be pretty upset

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:50 PM (493sH)

330 Wow. Trump is damn near bringing me to tears.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (PY9jH)

331 He just announced he's canceling Barry's deal with Cuba. Cuba policy looks to be going back to pre-Barry. Once Barry shakes off the coke and cock from last night he'll be pretty upset
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June




which is a good way to get iran's attention.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (0wem/)

332

oh my
teary eyed story from Trump

never heard it, of boy who, being forced to play his violin for castro regime, he played The Star Spangled Banner

at gunpoint

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (fceHP)

333 Lee Harvey Oswald was a left wing moonbat. It's a wonder why we don't have a holiday named after him.

Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (6dFYM)

334 Judges in Illinois basically wont allow any fiscal reform.

Pensioners are basically constitutionally protected.

Illinois even elected a Republican Governor it got so bad, but the Democrats are just hoping to wait him out.

I have no idea how it gets fixed.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (rEapd)

335 Looks like it's going to be an early night in Miami.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (PY9jH)

336 the media has given the message even to those that fkn know better.
The right is violent while the left is fair and good and just.
which neither idea is true,. But that's why we should actually figure out to directly fight the media.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (iS1Cb)

337 Closest thing I can come up with is the guy who shot Tiller. However, he was WAAAAY out there and may have been mentally ill.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM

Beat me to it. That's about as close as I can get.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 01:47 PM (p+Wdc)



Yup. Maybe the guys who took over that building out *waves paw* West somewhere but they specifically took over an empty building and the shooting was shooting back at the Feds. (I think)

All the other ones I can remember fall into these categories:

1. Batshit insane
2. Muslim terror
3. Domestic matter
4. Former employee

Oh and how could I forget:

5. BLM

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (dEQP3)

338 Hollywood is a cesspool though. If you are an up and
coming starlet- or even a semi established one- taking out a complaint
against a dude who had a lot of pull in the industry might be bad for
you- catastrophic even.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:48 PM (ycWCI)

As I said... I think these women went along with his dirtiness to get ahead. It may not have been pretty but that is still consent (or at least condonation).

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (f5uaD)

339 which is a good way to get iran's attention.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (0wem/)


he mentioned the shitty iran deal earlier in this speech

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (fceHP)

340 Okay maybe this is confirmation bias but I can't think of a single attack by a lone rifleman by someone on the far right.



Am I missing something or is this another lie?

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (dEQP3)


Charles Whitman, UT Tower shooter. Maybe? 1966

Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling the Prog Left back in '43 at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (JO9+V)

341 Trumps rating just went up to 50 on Rasmussen.

Normal everyday voters love the man. He creating jobs helping businesses and helping families.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (/yRyv)

342 Pen and phone baby!

Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (EX4Wr)

343

hooboy, the kid is there as an adult now, to play the violin

go Trump!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (fceHP)

344 Has Illinois crossed the event horizon where they spend more money on retirees than current employees?

Posted by: Grump928(c) has a list at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (LTHVh)

345 Ben Rhodes, over at "The Atlantic", is claiming to be the architect of Obama's Cuba policy.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 01:53 PM (e8kgV)

346 Judges in Illinois basically wont allow any fiscal reform.

Pensioners are basically constitutionally protected.

Illinois even elected a Republican Governor it got so bad, but the Democrats are just hoping to wait him out.

I have no idea how it gets fixed.
Posted by: Maritime at June




more heh, wait until illinois has to ratchet up taxes to pay retirees residing in costa rica or belize.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:53 PM (0wem/)

347 OMG. The man who was once the little boy forced to play the violin for the Cuban commies is about to play at Trump's rally!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:53 PM (PY9jH)

348 If the Black Panthers are Left-wing extremists, why are the NBPP (New Black Panther Party) labeled as Right-wing extremists by the SPLC ?

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at June 16, 2017 01:36 PM (e8kgV)

Because the SPLC is full of shit?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 01:53 PM (XUcIQ)

349
We will not lift sanctions until all political prisoners are free. We will enforce the embargo and travel restrictions. We will stand with the people of Cuba.

Wow. Great stuff.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:53 PM (493sH)

350 I'm sure the wagon bombing of the New York Stock Exchange was fomented by the right. right?

Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2017 01:53 PM (6dFYM)

351 he mentioned the shitty iran deal earlier in this speech
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June




go Trump

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (0wem/)

352 If Trump is impeached, Pence becomes President.

Pence pardons Trump & appoints him VP. Pence resigns.

Trump becomes president. Trump appoints Pence VP.

Liberals head's explode.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (E9ede)

353 the illinois crisis is an opportunity to shove a bailout deal up Rahm's ass that fixes the problem and sends a message to the deep state. salary caps and pension caps and lifetime bans all around.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (nFwvY)

354 Playing the Star Spangled Banner.

Progs everywhere pissing themselves.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (PY9jH)

355 I am in a CFA in Communist county Maryland and it is PACKED. Literally no parking spots and line looped around whole restaurant.

Praise Muzak playing over speakers.

Go where they need it most.

Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (jtf24)

356 We also had the privilege of paying the salary of Julianne Malveaux of PBS to state that she hoped Clarence Thomas would eat more butter and die young of a heart attack.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (PMkYS)

357 Trump undoes the JEF's Cuber pact. Is there anything he can't undo?

Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (6dFYM)

358 Also I bid adieu to the holders of their bonds.
Somebody is going to get left with no chair. Oddly a judge ordered they
must pay state workers. No word on whether they can fire some of their
bloated asses.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (/yRyv)

As Glenn Reynolds constantly says, something that can't go on forever, won't... even if judges order it to.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:55 PM (f5uaD)

359 They attribute Dylann Roof to the Right, because he was a white guy who killed black people.

Yeah, it's a BS claim, but it's still what they do.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 01:55 PM (oVJmc)

360 354
Playing the Star Spangled Banner.

Progs everywhere pissing themselves.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (PY9jH)

Gah! Can't believe I am missing this. Dang it.

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 01:55 PM (a0IVu)

361 goo Trump! tell them they are full of shit when they call bad -Good!

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 01:55 PM (iS1Cb)

362 "If Trump is impeached, Pence becomes President.

Pence pardons Trump & appoints him VP. Pence resigns."


No, there is a secret amendment to the Constitution that provides for Hillary to be appointed president if that happens. It will be unveiled next week.

Posted by: Louise Mensch at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (OD2ni)

363 I turned on FBN just in time to see him play. *sniffle sniffle sniffle*

Illinois even elected a Republican Governor it got so bad, but the Democrats are just hoping to wait him out.

I have no idea how it gets fixed.
Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (rEapd)


Is that the one who didn't get arrested in office and near the end of his term everyone was all you still have time to knock off a 7-11! You can do it!

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (dEQP3)

364

Now they are singing happy birthday to Trump, lol

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (fceHP)

365 332

oh my
teary eyed story from Trump

never heard it, of boy who, being forced to play his violin for castro regime, he played The Star Spangled Banner

at gunpoint
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (fceHP)

Trump's making this poor boy play the national anthem at gunpoint?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (0mRoj)

366 318 Trump giving a great speech. Crowd is loving him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:49 PM (PY9jH)

------------

He just sowed up the Cuban vote.

Very nice balance of US and Cuban patriotism.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (Fmupd)

367 The crowd is singing Happy Birthday to Trump.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (PY9jH)

368 As I said... I think these women went along with his dirtiness to get ahead. It may not have been pretty but that is still consent (or at least condonation).
Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (f5uaD)

Granted, but where does human agency end and cultural pressure begin? This is kind of like a prostitution argument, where a woman does what she needs to do to feed her kids. I dunno, I just think we should burn Hollywood to the ground and make them find more useful professions.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (ycWCI)

369 My son picked up a few Cuban cigars in Scotland and gave one to me.

Can't you just go up to Canada and buy real Cuban cigars?

I've also read they've seriously gone downhill in the last decade.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nz77boc

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (jhqr1)

370 heh. don't believe it for a minute. pretty sure you would wind up in the south of france in a villa shopping boutiques on some greek billionaires dime. if you wished to.Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 01:42 PM (0wem/)
There's a thought. I have developed some talents over the years So far, they've been monopolized.
Besides, not even an issue, I'm still ridiculously in love and he can't even sleep on business trips. We just bought a new car and argued about wanting the other one to have it. Confused the children no-end.
When I was a kid my parents were fighting over a steak. Mom was insisting he take one piece and he was insisting she take the same one. I expressed my irritation that they were fighting. Turns out each was trying to give the other the fillet. I completely get that now.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (OdHXU)

371

Man, Trump is having fun.

Keep it up.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (fceHP)

372 He just announced he's canceling Barry's deal with Cuba. Cuba policy looks to be going back to pre-Barry. Once Barry shakes off the coke and cock from last night he'll be pretty upset

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 01:50 PM (493sH)


Some bint on the radio this morning was complaining about Trump rolling back the dog-eating crackhead's ukase, whining that for some people, not even Fidel or Raul's head on a pike would be enough.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 01:57 PM (X6fMO)

373 Whitman had a brain tumor that made him nuts.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 01:57 PM (rmVvL)

374 Wow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:57 PM (PY9jH)

375 Trump's making this poor boy play the national anthem at gunpoint?

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (0mRoj)
Lol, Insomniac..that's how I read it too, initially

Posted by: IC at June 16, 2017 01:57 PM (a0IVu)

376 never heard it, of boy who, being forced to play his violin for castro regime, he played The Star Spangled Banner



at gunpoint

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (fceHP)

Trump went up to him and asked him, "Were you more nervous that day or today." He responded, "I think today." They both laughed.

Posted by: Tami at June 16, 2017 01:57 PM (Enq6K)

377 i'm going to have to look at his speech later, people in the chat are crying

Posted by: kallisto at June 16, 2017 01:57 PM (kD8Fh)

378 "I have no idea how it gets fixed."

Illinois can get into a financial death spiral, especially if it doesn't get federal aid. You can bet that Trump will let the state go under, unless it adopts reforms, which it won't, at least not initially.

Expect this to happen before 2018, and to be an issue in the mid-terms.

There are many ugly things that will be seen when the tide goes out.

But Chicago will be getting the Obama Library, so there's that ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (+7/1f)

379 more heh, wait until illinois has to ratchet up taxes to pay retirees residing in costa rica or belize.
Posted by: yankeefifth

______

All kidding aside, that's probably what will happen.

The Democrats/Public Sector Unions know they can just wait it out, bring the state to its knees, and eventually citizens will just go along with an increase in their taxes and kick the can for a few more years.

Hell, even here in Phoenix where they tried to make modest reforms to NEW members only, the police and Fire Fighters flipped out and had an incredibly dishonest campaign. And that's in a reddish city.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (rEapd)

380 369 A friend gave me one a few months ago,was not impressed.Better stuff coming out of the Dominican Republic imho.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (rmVvL)

381 "I am in a CFA in Communist county Maryland and it is PACKED. Literally no parking spots and line looped around whole restaurant."


They have a food truck in downtown DC near Metro Center. The line usually double or triple the other food trucks.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (OD2ni)

382 Some bint on the radio this morning was complaining about Trump rolling
back the dog-eating crackhead's ukase, whining that for some people, not
even Fidel or Raul's head on a pike would be enough.


Eh. It's a start.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (oVJmc)

383 Very nice speech by PDT.

And, Trish is looking lovely in her bright commie-red outfit.

And, top 500!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (8iiMU)

384 #334 Illinois gets fixed when the vendors don't get paid and they stop deliveries, when the pensioners don't get paid and the taxes don't come in, when the utilities shut off services.

When the national guard shows up in the streets you are close to the end.

Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (6dFYM)

385 Granted, but where does human agency end and cultural pressure begin? This is kind of like a prostitution argument, where a woman does what she needs to do to feed her kids. I dunno, I just think we should burn Hollywood to the ground and make them find more useful professions.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (ycWCI)


Hate to rat on my sex, but women tend to think this way first, not as a last result. If they think a little sex can get them somewhere, they'll do it. Few, very few, are horrified at the idea. I really doubt these broads were.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (OdHXU)

386 Trump having fun and looking good. He should do more of this.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (/yRyv)

387 Charles Whitman, UT Tower shooter. Maybe? 1966


Posted by: Count de Monet, channeling the Prog Left back in '43 at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM (JO9+V)

Whitman also murdered his wife and mother-in-law prior to the bloodbath at UT. It's fair to say he wasn't politically motivated.

Posted by: troyriser at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (Fw5cQ)

388 Trump's making this poor boy play the national anthem at gunpoint?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (0mRoj)


Washington Post or New York Times headline later today?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (fceHP)

389 382 Some bint on the radio this morning was complaining about Trump rolling
back the dog-eating crackhead's ukase, whining that for some people, not
even Fidel or Raul's head on a pike would be enough.

Eh. It's a start.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (oVJmc)

*ponders* I'd be ok with it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (ycWCI)

390 Peters needs a long vacation.
He has become completely unhinged.
Fox would be kind to force his leave for a while.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:44 PM (fceHP)

Take anti-gun Eurotrash Varney with him.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (l4aLi)

391 Is Castro dead yet?

Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (6dFYM)

392 Who the fuck are the "our share" of right wing folks stepping over the line????
====

Paul Ryan, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Liesl Murcokecokezki...

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (b+ARr)

393 To unravel (or cut) this knot we have to go after the whole "Hate Speech' concept.
The true believers of the left hear us talk about having a border (the minimum bar of sovereignty) and they hear: "I hate Mexicans" and therefore conclude "Racist!" which is, to them, an "assault on people of color."
So they punch "Nazis" i.e. anyone who voted for our elected President, and call it even.

I'm not saying we can reach the hard, hard Left, but I think that some fundamental deprogramming on "Hate Speech" is probably necessary to even have them get the point that their violence is truly violence, and not responding in kind. Sticks and stones stuff, but really at the core of it I think. But this in itself tends to point the problem being less tractable than having them recognize their own violence.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (QtQaN)

394 But Chicago will be getting the Obama Library, so there's that ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (+7/1f)


Outside of the 5 volume set of Articles of Impeachment I can't imagine what other books would be in Barky's library.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (rZ+mb)

395 385 Granted, but where does human agency end and cultural pressure begin? This is kind of like a prostitution argument, where a woman does what she needs to do to feed her kids. I dunno, I just think we should burn Hollywood to the ground and make them find more useful professions.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (ycWCI)


Hate to rat on my sex, but women tend to think this way first, not as a last result. If they think a little sex can get them somewhere, they'll do it. Few, very few, are horrified at the idea. I really doubt these broads were.
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (OdHXU)

You mean women use sex to get what they want? Rubbish! Outrageous! Harrumph! Harrumph!

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

396 >>Playing the Star Spangled Banner.

Now THAT is how you do it!!!!!

It's nice finally having someone in the WH who understands media opportunities.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (NOIQH)

397 Trump undoes the JEF's Cuber pact. Is there anything he can't undo?





If only the republicans in congress would take a lesson from this.

Posted by: N. Khol Lass at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (m9X4Y)

398 A friend gave me one a few months ago,was not impressed.Better stuff coming out of the Dominican Republic imho.
Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 01:58 PM (rmVvL)



I read some years back that the reason for the decline in the quality of Cuban cigars is that nearly all the people who knew how to make them fled and those poor few who didn't were dying off.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (dEQP3)

399 OMG. The man who was once the little boy forced to play the violin for the Cuban commies is about to play at Trump's rally!


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 01:53 PM (PY9jH)


The Golden Scalp Weasel is a master marketer. Or persuader, as Scott Adams puts it. He knows how to work the media better than the media.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (hLRSq)

400 "He just announced he's canceling Barry's deal with Cuba. Cuba policy looks to be going back to pre-Barry."

Unfortunately that doesn't mean the huge number of detainees released from Gitmo will be coming back there.

It was pretty clear where Obama was angling with the detainee release policy. He wanted them all out, so that by the end of his second term, he could order the U.S. military to leave Guantanamo, unilaterally declare the lease on the base land rescinded, and allow the Cuban military in to take it over.

We need to thank our lucky stars that His Imperial Laziness got started on this project too late to finish it before departing office.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (ujwCG)

401


Whitman also murdered his wife and mother-in-law prior to the bloodbath at UT. It's fair to say he wasn't politically motivated.


I thought he left a note that said he had no idea why he was doing the things he was...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (oVJmc)

402 A few interesting gun facts.

There are more M-16 style weapons owned by civilians in the United States than the US military has.

There are more .308 caliber rifles owned by civilians than by the US military.

There are more scope sighted sniper type rifles owned by US civilians than by the US military.

Exactly
who do the leftists think is going to take away our guns - the UN,
China? No army on earth can fight a million snipers who take a hidden
shot or two and then fade away.

If you have a deer rifle with a scope and 100 rounds of ammo and you use that all up - your side probably won.

Got
a thousand dollars? A Savage 10 FCP in .308 and a Primary Arms 4-14
.308 scope with a HUD reticle, some good ammo, and you're deadly out to a
thousand yards with a little practice.

Got an AR? One again a
Primary Arms 4-14 with a HUD reticle for a .223/5.56 and even cheap M193
ammo is good on steel silhouettes out to 600 yards. MK262 will reach
800 yards.

If we reach the civil war stage; remember - one or two shots then vanish.

Posted by: An Observation at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (ypK1z)

403 388 Trump's making this poor boy play the national anthem at gunpoint?
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 01:56 PM (0mRoj)

Washington Post or New York Times headline later today?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (fceHP)

I put nothing past them.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:01 PM (0mRoj)

404 Can't you just go up to Canada and buy real Cuban cigars?

I've also read they've seriously gone downhill in the last decade.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nz77boc


They've been sliding down a bit longer than that, I think, but the decline certainly has accelerated. I think another factor is that alternatives, especially Dominican tobacco, have really come into its own and make for a damned tasty cigar. The difference is no longer as stark as it was 20 years ago.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 16, 2017 02:01 PM (PFy0L)

405 He's a sick fuck who seems to prefer lifeless, unconscious women to play with - one step above necrophilia. But pretty much all the stories by these women are of them willingly taking drugs with him, usually multiple times. The whole trial is a farce.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (rZ+mb)

Pretty clear all these women were star-fuckers, who figured that they could get some traction in Hollywood by offering Cosby the mish. So when that didn't happen, they got seller's remorse.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:01 PM (XUcIQ)

406 When you eat at CFA, an SJW falls and breaks xis nose.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 02:01 PM (BWL+E)

407 AtC - It was a crazy guy who occupied a Colorado Springs PP and shot at people outside of it. Serious nutter.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:01 PM (NOIQH)

408 Even Marco was smiling

Posted by: CN at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (2+tI4)

409 Hate to rat on my sex, but women tend to think this
way first, not as a last result. If they think a little sex can get them
somewhere, they'll do it. Few, very few, are horrified at the idea. I
really doubt these broads were.


Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (OdHXU)
This.

And I have no patience for the ones who do this and then cry victim afterwards. You either are an adult making adult decisions and living with them or you should go back to the days when your male relatives were your keepers because your pretty little head was incapable of competency.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (f5uaD)

410 If Trump is impeached then he has to be convicted by the senate. He would have to be convicted by 70 votes.



Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (OdHXU)

411 It's all coasting along at a low level now but when the world economy tanks because China's economy crashes, Weimar disturbances will look like a nonviolent domestic squabble.

Sound out your neighbors. The ones looking for the government to solve the problem will speed dial 911 to turn you in. Plan accordingly.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (e1mEI)

412 Is Castro dead yet?


He's still smoking.

Posted by: Beelzebub at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (LTHVh)

413
I read some years back that the reason for the
decline in the quality of Cuban cigars is that nearly all the people who
knew how to make them fled and those poor few who didn't were dying
off.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (dEQP3)


They're hand rolling cigars in Tampa (Ybor City).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (PY9jH)

414 Of course even the Star Spangled Banner is an issue with the Left and they have various groups that have petitioned to have it removed as our national anthem.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (PMkYS)

415 Us "wackobird" Tea Partiers have been consistently (and falsely) accused of exactly that.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 01:43 PM (f5uaD)


And you drag them into the light and demand proof, and eventually they will admit there is none, and then crawl back into the darkness and start repeating "but it's true but it's true" to themselves.

That's how they convince themselves of this wave of right-wing violence exists - it exists because they keep saying it exists over and over again. Even though almost all of the spree killers are left-wingers or plain bonkers (or both).

Also, we have to remember these poor mentally-disabled lefties have a brain error that equates "right wing" with "anything they don't like." Instinctively, they literally associate evil with right-wing.

You may have noticed, occasionally, this slip past the filter when they label some left-wing terrorist or dictator as "right wing," or even more randomly they like to label Islamists as "right wing."

Not to mention historical factions like Nazis or the KKK, the former a creature of the European left and the latter the American left (though the modern American left has drifted closer to the European left).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (wB8Tg)

416 If I have a sizable income, nest egg or savings, especially if I'm wealthy. I'm looking for the exit in Illinois.

The playbook will be to go after taxpayers and play the class warfare game. That's where democrats are clearly trying to take this.

"Those rich people are eating crudites and you are eating oxtail stew!" Get them!!

Posted by: Marcus T at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (/yRyv)

417
I've also read they've seriously gone downhill in the last decade.


Not a smoker, but I thought I'd heard that Dominican and Haitian smokes were as good as Cubans used to be, before the commies let everything decline.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (oVJmc)

418 357 Trump undoes the JEF's Cuber pact. Is there anything he can't undo?

Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2017 01:54 PM (6dFYM)

Paul RYNO's unwillingness to go along with his agenda?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (CMbMd)

419 Just FYI, Dylann Roof is another example of "right wing" violence they often mention. As horrible as he was though, he worked alone and there was no trend of righty violence as we've been seeing from the left.

Even so, the whole country had to erase the existence of the confederate flags that had "incited" the murder, even in old tv series and historical games.

Lefties go on a violence spree and there's no demand whatsoever for any changes.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (Q5ALd)

420 Trump undoes the JEF's Cuber pact. Is there anything he can't undo?


Coo-ba. It's pronounced coo-ba...

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (qJhUV)

421 Ha! At the end, when Trump was shaking hands all around, little Marco was looking for attention from Trump. He was like a puppy dog, but finally he left the stage, when Trump made it clear he wanted to circulate.

Posted by: JuJuBee at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (dargh)

422 I have a sudden craving for some Cuban food.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (PY9jH)

423 Who the fuck are the "our share" of right wing folks stepping over the line????
====

Paul Ryan, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Liesl Murcokecokezki...
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (b+ARr)



By the insanity of Cthulhu, I am not making this up. I could not make this up.

Last night I was reading the replies on a twitter thread where the Left was whinging about whatever. I do that because it is good to see what the other side is really saying.

One twatling, no lie, stated about how healthcare was impossible under the Republicans due to the radicalization. UNDER MITCH MCCONNELL.

She, no lie, said that Mitch McConnell is a radical.

All out of evens.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (dEQP3)

424 It's all part of the plan.

Posted by: Simplemind at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (0yj4C)

425 >>"He just announced he's canceling Barry's deal with Cuba. Cuba policy looks to be going back to pre-Barry."

Heh.

Message to Cuba: "Yeah, you can go ahead and give up any hope of us giving you Gitmo."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (NOIQH)

426 417
I've also read they've seriously gone downhill in the last decade.


Not a smoker, but I thought I'd heard that Dominican and Haitian smokes were as good as Cubans used to be, before the commies let everything decline.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (oVJmc)

Nicaraguan are pretty good. I'm not much aware of Haiti being known for stogie production.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (0mRoj)

427 Whitman had a brain tumor that made him nuts.

Posted by: steevy at June 16, 2017 01:57 PM (rmVvL)

A tumor, yes, but it was not conclusively established that the tumor contributed to his actions.
Looking at his background on Wiki, I would call his raising more righty than lefty. Church going, Eagle Scout, Marine. Abusive father though - that couldn't have helped.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (JO9+V)

428 The cigars coming out of Dom Rep and even Mexico are every bit as good as anything I've had from Cuba.
Too many years of same crop on the same ground, plus loss of skills by the farmers.

Of course it's all about taste and what you like.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (0tfLf)

429 I was contacted by the FBI yesterday. It seems a guy I sent to prison a while back has been threatening to kill me. I'm not terribly worried because 1) he's still in prison (although five or six years ago I sent him away for five or six years so you do the math), 2) I'm only one name on a crowded hit list, 3) when I sent him he was definitely a political radical crazy but he had no history of violence, and 4) that prosecution was in a different judicial district and county than I live in and I don't think he knows where to find me. I dislike carrying because it is uncomfortable (I'm like a fat slob), inconvenient, and occasionally embarrassing but I'm going down this afternoon to get a concealed carry permit. I've had similar situations twice in the past and on both occasions began carrying. Nothing ever came of those and I doubt anything will come of this.

The ironic thing is that he is a legitimate right wing fanatic of the type Law and Order routinely hallucinates. If he does kill me, I will have been killed by the 0.1% of people more conservative than me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Real Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (Nwg0u)

430 I read some years back that the reason for the decline in the quality of Cuban cigars is that nearly all the people who knew how to make them fled and those poor few who didn't were dying off.
===

Or were burnt by tightly rolled crepes.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 02:04 PM (b+ARr)

431 AtC - It was a crazy guy who occupied a Colorado Springs PP and shot at people outside of it. Serious nutter.


Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:01 PM (NOIQH)

As I recall, that dude was not right wing... he was mostly just crazy but his politics were leftist. He didn't start spouting anti-abortion stuff until primed to do so by the police.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:04 PM (f5uaD)

432 "I am in a CFA in Communist county Maryland and it is PACKED. Literally no parking spots and line looped around whole restaurant."

A CFA opened in Bellevue, WA in April 2015. Traffic is still terrible around the restaurant at all hours. Of course the Eastside is more conservative than Seattle, but still pretty nutty.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 02:04 PM (jhqr1)

433 Trump should have started marketing his own line of dominican cigars before he was elected.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 02:04 PM (0wem/)

434 Oh and how could I forget:



5. BLM

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 01:52 PM


I can't forget them. Little f***ers ruined my commute one morning by chaining themselves in the middle of I-93.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 16, 2017 02:04 PM (p+Wdc)

435 As far as the lack of coverage of the current nutjob:

1) Obviously the MFM wants this story to die in darkness, duh.

2) You may have noticed in recent years that law enforcement has been going down this road. The Stockton Stabber and the "Irish Republican Army Fan" guy who shot up the school in Oregon had a lot hidden about them early in the case, police were even reported as confiscating cameras at the scene.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2017 02:04 PM (wB8Tg)

436 You mean women use sex to get what they want? Rubbish! Outrageous! Harrumph! Harrumph!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

to be fair, and men have sex to get what They want also.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:05 PM (iS1Cb)

437 263 John Nolte's Twitter page has a picture of Jake Tapper's face superimposed on Jan Brady yelling "Russia Russia Russia". It's hilarious and kind of creepy at the same time.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 16, 2017 01:40 PM (OD2ni)



Did you see that he pulled his typical "hard hitting question" to a Democrat Rep, but let the Rep give a mealymouthed non answer and didn't followup.

Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2017 02:05 PM (z/Ubi)

438 Re: Evergreen

Someone should distribute flyers saying people not wearing masks will not be harmed.

Posted by: OCBill at June 16, 2017 02:05 PM (df+Zi)

439 to be fair, and men have sex to get what They want also.

... and that's to have sex.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 02:06 PM (39g3+)

440 >>Lefties go on a violence spree and there's no demand whatsoever for any changes.


Well, they are asking us to give up our guns after this (again).

They're shocked - SHOCKED! - that pro-2nd Amendment Congressmen and others aren't rethinking their views as a result of this.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:06 PM (NOIQH)

441 Not a smoker, but I thought I'd heard that Dominican and Haitian smokes
were as good as Cubans used to be, before the commies let everything
decline.



The very best ones are rolled on the smooth thighs of 15 - 17 year old virgin maidens.



So I've heard.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2017 02:06 PM (JO9+V)

442 Hate to rat on my sex, but women tend to think this way first, not as a last result. If they think a little sex can get them somewhere, they'll do it. Few, very few, are horrified at the idea. I really doubt these broads were.
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (OdHXU)

I remember something by Florence King, I think, where she argued that, on the whole, women are more likely to "Go with the flow" morally. One of her examples is that you would not find too many women living in a cave, starving themselves in order to be closer to God and find wisdom.

Not sure I agree with her premise, but that passage has always stuck with me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:06 PM (ycWCI)

443 She, no lie, said that Mitch McConnell is a radical.

All out of evens.
Posted by: alexthechick
=====

Mcturtle. A radical.

That's kinda pathetic yet also stupid.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 02:06 PM (b+ARr)

444 some cigar maker should start making eight inch, 60 gauge cigars and calling the Trump.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 16, 2017 02:06 PM (0wem/)

445 they were applauding occupy wallstreet, blm. antifa, while hiding all the violence, rapes, beatings criminal activity, while Blaming US!

and we weren't even there, It's so sickening.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (iS1Cb)

446 Anonosaurus, good luck.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (94ccS)

447 Trump undoes the JEF's Cuber pact. Is there anything he can't undo?


Coo-ba. It's pronounced coo-ba...

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (qJhUV)



JFK: That's what you think, you commie sod.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (493sH)

448 436 You mean women use sex to get what they want? Rubbish! Outrageous! Harrumph! Harrumph!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

to be fair, and men have sex to get what They want also.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:05 PM (iS1Cb)



Yes. Laid.

Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (z/Ubi)

449
Just FYI, Dylann Roof is another example of "right wing" violence they
often mention. As horrible as he was though, he worked alone and there
was no trend of righty violence as we've been seeing from the left.



Even so, the whole country had to erase the existence of the
confederate flags that had "incited" the murder, even in old tv series
and historical games.



Lefties go on a violence spree and there's no demand whatsoever for any changes.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (Q5ALd)

Also, there was no information pointing to him being right wing... except for people who think that racist is automatically equal to Republican.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (f5uaD)

450 As I recall, that dude was not right wing... he was mostly just crazy but his politics were leftist. He didn't start spouting anti-abortion stuff until primed to do so by the police.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:04 PM (f5uaD)


IIRC the only actual evidence other than ranting was some obscure printed conspiracy material. More creepypasta than political.

IIRC he also went to a bank first?

In either case, let's call this one a grossly weak "one." Any others?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (wB8Tg)

451 436 You mean women use sex to get what they want? Rubbish! Outrageous! Harrumph! Harrumph!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

to be fair, and men have sex to get what They want also.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:05 PM (iS1Cb)

I have never encountered the scenario where a man uses the offer of sex or the withholding of sex as a means of getting what they want from a woman. Since women possess all the vagina, no matter what the LGBTWTFBBQ crowd says, there's a bit of a monopoly on sexual power.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (0mRoj)

452 Is Castro dead yet?

****

If not I bet he's really pissed about now.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (0tfLf)

453 Where do I go to get my reputation back?

Posted by: The Tea Party at June 16, 2017 02:07 PM (QtQaN)

454 There's a Seinfeld episode where Kramer "smuggles in some Cubans," who are actually people who roll cigars, in another Kramer get rich quick scheme.

They turn out to be Dominicans pretending to be Cubans.

Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (+7/1f)

455 Christopher, uh hmm, and hopefully just for the night .
o well.lol

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (iS1Cb)

456 And I have no patience for the ones who do this and then cry victim afterwards. You either are an adult making adult decisions and living with them or you should go back to the days when your male relatives were your keepers because your pretty little head was incapable of competency.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (f5uaD)


Yep. Either you're an adult with "agency" or you need a keeper.

Many of them do need a keeper. I happen to have agency. There is no way to determine that however for policy or legal purposes.

You learn a fuckton about "women" when you go to an all-girls school like I did, live in a women's dorm, and are forced to hang out with other women while you raise children.

This bullshit that we're delicate or naive or without guile is so beyond ridiculous, you can't imagine. They plan manipulations from dawn to dawn. If you're in a SITUATION where it's compromising, either leave or you're responsible. That's why the 19th century social rules had couples compromised if women were alone with a man. Supposedly it was because men were beasts, but I always thought it more likely that it was because women were willing to get what they wanted.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (OdHXU)

457 He's a sick fuck who seems to prefer lifeless, unconscious women to play with - one step above necrophilia. But pretty much all the stories by these women are of them willingly taking drugs with him, usually multiple times. The whole trial is a farce.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 16, 2017 01:45 PM (rZ+mb)

Pretty clear all these women were star-fuckers, who figured that they could get some traction in Hollywood by offering Cosby the mish. So when that didn't happen, they got seller's remorse.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:01 PM (XUcIQ)



60 of them

only 2 were allowed or able to testify in this trial, don't know why

also, how old were they? young girls do very stupid things, older men take advantage of that

Eric Bolling said he dated one of the women, who told him in private that Cosby did that to her, but she never came forward. He believed her, and I think he said she was not on the list of 60 that came forward so far.

He seems pretty guilty to me.

People in power, whether they priests with little boys, or Hollywood stars with either little boys or girls is disgusting.



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (fceHP)

458 205 this Hodgkinson fucker gets creepier and creepier

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7ksygnx
Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at June 16, 2017 01:30 PM (nFwvY)


+++

Whoa.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (wI4ew)

459 The first Civil War had old pictures, this one will be on live TV.

Posted by: Old Nam Vet at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (sLASA)

460 >>As I recall, that dude was not right wing... he was mostly just crazy
but his politics were leftist. He didn't start spouting anti-abortion
stuff until primed to do so by the police.


Yeah, no idea what his politics are, but it was a PP employee who claimed he said anti-abortion stuff and it was fishy as hell.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (NOIQH)

461 One of her examples is that you would not find too many women living in a cave, starving themselves in order to be closer to God and find wisdom.

uh... convents?

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (94ccS)

462 If we reach the civil war stage; remember - one or two shots then vanish.
Posted by: An Observation at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (ypK1z)

I am reminded of the quote about the Japanese General who was pondering an invasion of the US:

"There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (ycWCI)

463 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Real Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (Nwg0u)

It's probably more uncomfortable for you if concealed carry is but I'd purchase a vest if I were you. They are way more comfortable than they used to be. Better safe than sorry.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:09 PM (PMkYS)

464 insomniac, respectfully while that might beconsidered the norm, it's not always accurate.

and men know or don't know women would possibly desire more meaning than a single night out?
although as I said some women also want just that.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (iS1Cb)

465 I was contacted by the FBI yesterday. It seems a guy
I sent to prison a while back has been threatening to kill me. I'm not
terribly worried because 1) he's still in prison (although five or six
years ago I sent him away for five or six years so you do the math), 2)
I'm only one name on a crowded hit list, 3) when I sent him he was
definitely a political radical crazy but he had no history of violence,
and 4) that prosecution was in a different judicial district and county
than I live in and I don't think he knows where to find me. I dislike
carrying because it is uncomfortable (I'm like a fat slob),
inconvenient, and occasionally embarrassing but I'm going down this
afternoon to get a concealed carry permit. I've had similar situations
twice in the past and on both occasions began carrying. Nothing ever
came of those and I doubt anything will come of this.



The ironic thing is that he is a legitimate right wing fanatic of
the type Law and Order routinely hallucinates. If he does kill me, I
will have been killed by the 0.1% of people more conservative than me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, the Real Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 16, 2017 02:03 PM (Nwg0u)

Here's one Alex

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (f5uaD)

466 to be fair, and men have sex to get what They want also.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:05 PM (iS1Cb)



Huh?

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (OdHXU)

467 Yeah I know foster kids are usually a mess and their life is pretty awful but you have to push someone pretty horrendously to get them to light themselves on fire for suicide.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (39g3+)

468 "There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (ycWCI)

Those are some teeny tiny rifles.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (0mRoj)

469 The very best ones are rolled on the smooth thighs of 15 - 17 year old virgin maidens.

So I've heard.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2017 02:06 PM (JO9+V)

*****
A 17 year old maiden???
Seriously?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (0tfLf)

470 "who seems to prefer lifeless"

I think the women wanted the drugs because they weren't too enamored of being fondled by a dirty old man. Similar to the Brit women who only have sex when they are drunk.

Think movie Kingpin:
"Roy is throwing up in the background after having had sex with his Landlady, to keep from being evicted."

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (cfHE9)

471 I read some years back that the reason for the decline in the quality of Cuban cigars is that nearly all the people who knew how to make them fled and those poor few who didn't were dying off.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (dEQP3)

Many of the tobacco growers fled Cuba, and a bunch of them wound up in Nicaragua, and you can now get some pretty fine cigars there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (XUcIQ)

472 "Since women possess all the vagina, no matter what the LGBTWTFBBQ crowd says, there's a bit of a monopoly on sexual power."

Not in my experience,

When I whip out my big ten inch ....

Record of her favorite blues.

Posted by: Ron Jeremy from Nantucket at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (+7/1f)

473 461 One of her examples is that you would not find too many women living in a cave, starving themselves in order to be closer to God and find wisdom.

uh... convents?
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (94ccS)

I think she was making an argument for individual vs isolated and alone. A convent is still a communal experience (aside from the Anchoress.)

Like I said, I am not sure I agree with her supposition.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (ycWCI)

474 471 I read some years back that the reason for the decline in the quality of Cuban cigars is that nearly all the people who knew how to make them fled and those poor few who didn't were dying off.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (dEQP3)

Many of the tobacco growers fled Cuba, and a bunch of them wound up in Nicaragua, and you can now get some pretty fine cigars there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 16, 2017 02:11 PM (XUcIQ)

That's what I've heard as well. They took their plants and techniques with them and set up shop.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:12 PM (0mRoj)

475 They're hand rolling cigars in Tampa (Ybor City).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 16, 2017 02:02 PM (PY9jH)

---------------

Cubans are hand rolling cigars in Vegas. And the cigars are quite good. They use DR tobacco which is just immigrated Cuban tobacco.

Posted by: Soona at June 16, 2017 02:12 PM (Fmupd)

476 One of her examples is that you would not find too many women living in a cave, starving themselves in order to be closer to God and find wisdom.

Although they were very rare, there were women hermits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 02:12 PM (39g3+)

477 dagny, that they want SEX. that's what they want and while doing it they consider sex the best exchange ever.

short sighted I know.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:12 PM (iS1Cb)

478 "She, no lie, said that Mitch McConnell is a radical."

"And don't get me started on that far-right extremist _Paul Ryan_!"

::: turns abruptly on heel, leaves in theatrical huff :::


Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (ujwCG)

479 >>People in power, whether they priests with little boys, or Hollywood stars with either little boys or girls is disgusting.

Yeah, the Cosby stuff is sleazy.

It's one of those situations where a lot of the women probably *would* have slept with him without drugs, but he chose to drug them. Not to blame the victims, but it's one of those situations where one helps create the opportunity for a crime (like waving a wallet full of cash in a sketchy neighborhood). Not that they caused it, or deserved it, just that poor choices led them to be vulnerable to Cosby's creepiness.

And how much more of this type of stuff is going on in Hollywood?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (NOIQH)

480 468 "There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (ycWCI)

Those are some teeny tiny rifles.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (0mRoj)

My guess is that he was using that there metaphor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (ycWCI)

481 I thought he left a note that said he had no idea why he was doing the things he was...

Letter here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6oauj3g

I don't trust Whitman's telling the complete truth, but it's terrible and fascinating. He claimed he killed his wife and mom so they wouldn't have to live in this terrible world after his murderous acts. Family destroyer stuff.

Whether he was playing up the facts or not, he did have a tumor and I've heard it's reasonable to assume at least some of his claims are true.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (jhqr1)

482 anyway, I can say for both sexes, quit being so shallow.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (iS1Cb)

483 only 2 were allowed or able to testify in this trial, don't know why







Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (fceHP)

If I had to guess why it was because those two were the only ones with even faintly credible stories... and even those two cast doubt on Cosby's guilt for any actual crime.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (f5uaD)

484 All that right wing terrorism you hear about? That is all Muslim terrorism which is counted as both white and right wing terrorism; so the left can blow that out of their asses.

Posted by: An Observation at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (ypK1z)

485 459 The first Civil War had old pictures, this one will be on live TV.

Posted by: Old Nam Vet at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (sLASA)

With a patriot behind the mike providing intel on enemy movements while Blitzer is hanging behind him from a light bar.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (l4aLi)

486 I'm not talking about sex for the sake of the act, I'm talking about sex as currency or means of manipulation.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (0mRoj)

487 454
There's a Seinfeld episode where Kramer "smuggles in some Cubans," who
are actually people who roll cigars, in another Kramer get rich quick
scheme.



They turn out to be Dominicans pretending to be Cubans.



Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (+7/1f)

The get a job at a Magic Pan rolling crepes but they roll them too tight and the crepes begin exploding in everyone's faces.

Posted by: Tami at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (Enq6K)

488 Whitman also murdered his wife and mother-in-law prior to the bloodbath at UT. It's fair to say he wasn't politically motivated.

Posted by: troyriser at June 16, 2017 01:59 PM (Fw5cQ)


Mother, not MIL, I believe.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (X6fMO)

489 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (fceHP)

Actually the 60 number is what makes me think most aren't legitimate. It's the dog that didn't bark.

I can understand 2 or 3 or even a dozen not wanting to come forward timely but 60? What are the odds? That's not to say a number of them aren't legitimate.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (PMkYS)

490 "uh... convents?"

Most Nuns i know of are well fed.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (cfHE9)

491 Sorry I'm hard hearted, but I don't care how famous someone is, if you're an adult, you choose whether you're having sex or not.

(Except for the usual real physical force caveat).

"I was manipulated!!" is not rape.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (OdHXU)

492 SEKRIT TO JACKSTRAW AND FOR JACKSTRAW ONLY!

The rest of you (except willow) avert your eyes.

Nood.

Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (dEQP3)

493 It's one of those situations where a lot of the women probably *would* have slept with him without drugs, but he chose to drug them.

Maybe, all we know is that he used drugs and booze to get laid. Maybe worse things happened, maybe not. He may have drugged them unconscious because he had a kink for unconscious girls, maybe he was bad with the dosage and went with it anyway, maybe they're just making stuff up because $$$ and destroy Cosby. Nobody knows.

All I know is, I don't like people being destroyed simply by accusation. Men are super vulnerable to this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 02:15 PM (39g3+)

494 The first Civil War had old pictures, this one will be on live TV.

Posted by: Old Nam Vet at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (sLASA)


YouTube

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Beat the Heat with a Frozen Covfefe from the Outrage Outlet! at June 16, 2017 02:15 PM (hLRSq)

495 alright, well as I like lovemaking with my spouse because , bonding I know the other exists.

so make love not war. so sez me.

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:15 PM (iS1Cb)

496 ty alex

Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:16 PM (iS1Cb)

497 Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (NOIQH)

But that's just it, he didn't sleep with any of them. That's creepy.

Posted by: Jack Sock at June 16, 2017 02:16 PM (PMkYS)

498 Illinois even elected a Republican Governor it got so bad, but the Democrats are just hoping to wait him out.

I have no idea how it gets fixed.

Posted by: Maritime at June 16, 2017 01:51 PM (rEapd)

That "republican" governor gave in. He called the legislature back for a special 10 day session to work on a budget. He promised to sign that new 5 billion dollar tax increase.

By this time next year this state will be dead.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 16, 2017 02:16 PM (sf2BM)

499 Oh my, Nicole Petallides is showing some cleavage in a diving neckline yellow top.

She's babbling about something about Amazon buying Whole Foods.
I think.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 16, 2017 02:16 PM (8iiMU)

500 t's one of those situations where a lot of the women probably *would* have slept with him without drugs, but he chose to drug them.



I heard it was Benedryl. So, I'm not really seeing that.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:16 PM (OdHXU)

501 Actually the 60 number is what makes me think most aren't legitimate. It's the dog that didn't bark.

I'm in the same camp, that's way too many to keep their silence for decades. Plus, most of them are... questionable ladies, let's say. He may be guilty as hell but that's just a pretty sketchy stunt.

If he'd been a reliable leftist mouthpiece who didn't have a super popular show that tore leftist myths about black community to pieces and do more for racial healing than 800 Jesse Jacksons, I doubt we'd even have heard about this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 02:17 PM (39g3+)

502 to be fair, and men have sex to get what They want also.

... and that's to have sex.
====
I am rotfl over here.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 02:17 PM (b+ARr)

503 492 SEKRIT TO JACKSTRAW AND FOR JACKSTRAW ONLY!

The rest of you (except willow) avert your eyes.

Nood.
Posted by: alexthechick - I need a pail for to build a castle now at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (dEQP3)


Posted by: Ace at 12:49 PM


*snort*

Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2017 02:17 PM (z/Ubi)

504 >>All I know is, I don't like people being destroyed simply by accusation. Men are super vulnerable to this.


Yeah, there's been a real feeding frenzy vibe to this.

Women coming forward years, decades later is seeking revenge, not justice. And after Anita Hill, and more recently, the 14 women Gloria Alred wrangled to claim they were raped, also looks like shenanigans.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 16, 2017 02:17 PM (NOIQH)

505
436 You mean women use sex to get what they want? Rubbish! Outrageous! Harrumph! Harrumph!
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:00 PM (0mRoj)

to be fair, and men have sex to get what They want also.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:05 PM (iS1Cb)

So, men have sex to get the thing they want, sex.

Can't argue with that.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (e1mEI)

506 "By this time next year this state will be dead."

Let us pray.

It'll be an issue going into the 2018 elections. Long-term it'll help reform the Blue State model.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (+7/1f)

507 Maybe, all we know is that he used drugs and booze
to get laid. Maybe worse things happened, maybe not. He may have
drugged them unconscious because he had a kink for unconscious girls,
maybe he was bad with the dosage and went with it anyway, maybe they're
just making stuff up because $$$ and destroy Cosby. Nobody knows.



All I know is, I don't like people being destroyed simply by accusation. Men are super vulnerable to this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2017 02:15 PM (39g3+)

Interesting that the accusations against Cosby only started after he criticized TheWon and black culture.

Posted by: redbanzai at June 16, 2017 02:18 PM (f5uaD)

508 Similar to the Brit women who only have sex when they are drunk.

Story of my life.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 02:19 PM (X6fMO)

509
By this time next year this state will be dead.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois
====

Tim!

Damn sorry to.hear that. So what does that mean for you personally?and average Joe in Illinois?

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at June 16, 2017 02:19 PM (b+ARr)

510 So just because these douche nozzles say "Up until now has until now largely been a modus operandi of the far right" That's the truth ? oh okay I see.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (nQHw/)

511 477 dagny, that they want SEX. that's what they want and while doing it they consider sex the best exchange ever.


short sighted I know.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2017 02:12 PM (iS1Cb)
Well, of course they want sex. Sex for sex isn't manipulation. Quite the opposite.

Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:20 PM (OdHXU)

512 "And how much more of this type of stuff is going on in Hollywood?"

I've been told by people who lived there that a lot of this stuff is happening. I've also been told that a lot more men are victims (ie gay mafia) then women are. I've been told that there are about six straight women for every straight man and a man has an easy time getting laid.

All hearsay. Just like the stories of the 60 women who want a piece of Cosby's reported 400 million estate.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (cfHE9)

513 Many of the tobacco growers fled Cuba, and a bunch of them wound up in Nicaragua, and you can now get some pretty fine cigars there.

Yeah, the Nicaraguan's and Dominicans are now pretty good.

Hell, a favorite of mine used to be a cuban seed tobacco grown in mexico.
(La Aroma de Cuba, Mi Amor).

Posted by: GMan at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (sxq57)

514 I just think we should burn Hollywood to the ground and make them find more useful professions.
=======

How many glory holes does a country need?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at June 16, 2017 02:22 PM (vg8iE)

515 Illinois will come out of this better. If Hillary had been elected they would have been bailed out by the Feds and had no chance to get better any time soon.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:25 PM (cfHE9)

516 ::: turns abruptly on heel, leaves in theatrical huff :::

Posted by: torquewrench at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (ujwCG)


The correct verb is "flounces".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2017 02:26 PM (BWL+E)

517 "...young girls do very stupid things, older men take advantage of that ..."


I believe it's "young girls do very stupid things, older men with money take advantage of that"

or so I hear.

Posted by: jwest at June 16, 2017 02:28 PM (Zs4uk)

518
480 468 "There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (ycWCI)

Those are some teeny tiny rifles.
Posted by: Insomniac at June 16, 2017 02:10 PM (0mRoj)

My guess is that he was using that there metaphor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:13 PM (ycWCI)

Does the metaphor come in .300 Win. Mag?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (e1mEI)

519 Mother, not MIL, I believe.


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 16, 2017 02:14 PM (X6fMO)

Sorry, transposing. I didn't like my former mother-in-law very much.

Posted by: troyriser at June 16, 2017 02:29 PM (Fw5cQ)

520 "But that's just it, he didn't sleep with any of them. That's creepy."

Bill Clinton used a cigar on Monica. Also raped a woman that looked like his mother twice. Raped her. Started to leave. Raped her again.

That's creepy!

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:31 PM (cfHE9)

521 I am reminded of the quote about the Japanese General who was pondering an invasion of the US:

"There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (ycWCI) fnord (ycWCI)


Either fabricated or mis-attributed by a Christian Science Monitor reporter to a general who had been dead several years.

It *might* have been said by someone else at a conference he was reporting on, but we'll likely never know.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2017 02:32 PM (wB8Tg)

522 No fool like an Old Fool.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Any more Cosby bromides?

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (cfHE9)

523 This could be the start of something leading to a "Bull Run" but without the pic-a-nik baskets and horse drawn carriages. Some in the country should take a knee and get a clue........ espousing video/twitter violence is not the same as looking down the barrel at your enemy with your finger on the trigger on the day of a REAL battle....and this current generation is so far beyond concept of purpose....lemmings, just mindless video,bling bling being spoon feed blah blah MSM ,COMMIE, PINKO......oh sorry did I "Trigger" those mindless F-tards?....my bad with an emoji Turd pile.....now back to the thread....

Posted by: Nightwatch at June 16, 2017 02:33 PM (kFkpX)

524 The Democrats are running amuck with this investigation crap, they are just going to keep looking until they find something.

Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2017 02:34 PM (Ot7+c)

525 Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2017 02:08 PM (OdHXU)

That is not my experience. Obviously, all of that happens, but not with me or in my circle. I don't like it to be assumed that we ALL do that.

My experience is to have been preyed on by perverted male strangers twice , which is why I carry a gun. Fortunately, they were strangers. All of my male relatives and coworkers have been wonderful though.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at June 16, 2017 02:34 PM (Q5ALd)

526 bromides replaced by benadryl

The term "bromide" derives from the antiquated use of bromide salts in medicine as mild tranquilizers and sedatives. Administration of a "bromide" (such as the original Bromo-Seltzer before 1975 in the US) would relieve anxiety and make the patient drowsy.

Describing a phrase as a "bromide" is meant humorously to imply that it is a verbal sedative, a boring statement with similar soporific properties.

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:36 PM (cfHE9)

527 A man with money
said come on honey
and she said Ok

Posted by: truth at June 16, 2017 02:38 PM (cfHE9)

528
Moderate muslims cheer radical muslims committing terror and murder.
Moderate democrats cheer radical democrats committing terror and murder.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 16, 2017 02:43 PM (npdX6)

529 What's up with the "after 9/11" cr*p. They were the source of the violence before then, too.

Posted by: jd at June 16, 2017 02:47 PM (cIj06)

530 One of my brothers bought up the abortion clinic
bombing thing. I looked it up. You have to go back decades to find the
most recent one.
Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2017 12:49 PM (EX4Wr)

More abortionists have been "killed" on Law N Order than in real life.

Posted by: hillary (. ) (' ) at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (nlbfN)

531 See? Even Hillary agrees with us on this.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2017 02:53 PM (nlbfN)

532 Late to this thread (NOOD), but has anyone mentioned an older leftist American terrorist - the UNABOMBER aka Ted Kaczynski. (Educated at Harvard btw).

Posted by: Glenn John at June 16, 2017 03:07 PM (LilNs)

533 Any republican who is interviewed in print, radio, or tv and ALLOWS the utterly false premise of violence on both sides from a questioner to stand, and doesn't push back hard, should NOT be representing anyone. They are useless (see mark sanford) The left is violent and they are being stirred up and egged on by the media and the democrats. They consider Donald trump's stances on immigration and terrorism to be vitriolic and hate speech. Any republican who allows these falsehoods to be repeated and is unable to push back and state the truth, are part of the problem. I want to hear 100% support with no equivocation from any republican who wants to be reelected. There are basic rules in civil society, a red line if you will, that can never be crossed. The dems and the media think there are some cases where it's justified to cross the line. This is the tacit message they are sending.

Posted by: Flowerbelle1 at June 16, 2017 03:22 PM (AkAvN)

534 Late to the comments, and the wrong time to get philosophical, but I will make a point.

If you could kill Hitler as a young man, would you? How about as a baby? How about his mother and family, so he would never have been born? My answer is always no - I don't believe in sins of the blood, pre-crimes, that pre-emption is allowable as a source of justice.

The left believes in pre-crimes. They believe that even if you aren't doing something bad, you will, because you are so flawed. The whole "punch a Nazi" thing is about that, just as the political murder fantasies of the left. They literally think killing Republicans and Trump will prevent genocide. They want to kill Hitler in his crib.

Posted by: Evergreen Student cowering in his dorm at June 16, 2017 03:29 PM (UgF8H)

535 Maybe someone has reported on this already, but a Democrat Campaign operative in Northern NJ has tweeted out a hashtag: HuntRepublicanCongressmen
Narcissistic, violent idiot needs a visit from the FBI

http://tinyurl.com/y9g5k75y

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2017 03:36 PM (qES5k)

536 "Automatic rifles . . ."

Heh.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 16, 2017 03:37 PM (gDHn1)

537 Some people will only learn the hard way that once you pull the pin, Mr. Hand Grenade is not your friend any more.

Posted by: Zapp Branigan at June 16, 2017 05:04 PM (FgFCM)

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