Wonderful: Our Judicial Overlords Overturn Sentence on Younger Member of the Beltway Sniper Duo

He was sentenced to life without parole at age 17 -- but a judge has vacated that sentence, claiming that a 17 year old can't be exposed to our harshest penalties, as they have the greatest chances of reform.

Malvo appealed to the court saying he should not have been sentenced to life without parole because he was 17 years old at the time of the murders and he based his appeal on the Supreme Court ruling in Miller v. Alabama.
The decision in the Supreme Court case ruled juveniles are constitutionally different from adults for the purposes of sentencing "because juveniles have diminished culpability and greater prospects for reform," which makes them "less deserving of the most severe punishments." Judge Raymond Jackson agreed and made his ruling to vacate Malvo's sentence.

Even though this guy committed serial acts of terrorist murders, shooting random people over a several-week period.

And he did it for Allah.

There's a lot of real terrific Reform Stories about Islamist murderers, right?

And yesterday, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the national injunction against the travel ban. I guess they want more Manchesters.

Every week I'm shocked to see how the nation has chosen to completely forget 9/11, and now it's begun the hard work of forgetting all the terrorism that happened in the year following 9/11.

In two years, Djokhar Tsarnaev will be The Bachelor.

Posted by: Ace at 06:08 PM

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1 Seriously?

Posted by: hell at May 26, 2017 06:01 PM (O2RFr)

2 It is indeed shocking what has happened to this country post 9/11.

Posted by: IC at May 26, 2017 06:01 PM (a0IVu)

3

Trump will win forever if this stuff become broadly known.

Thanks Ace. For exposing the hideous underbelly of the left.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 26, 2017 06:01 PM (fceHP)

4 17 year olds went off and fought and died for this country, so that Muslim POS could terrorize, murder, and get off with a slap on the wrist.

And I'll just leave it at that.

*removes fingers from keyboard*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:03 PM (PY9jH)

5 I know what I would do if I was a family member of one of the victims. Can't type it, but I'll think it all the same.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 26, 2017 06:04 PM (BwJGV)

6 based his appeal on the Supreme Court ruling in Miller v. Alabama.

++++

5-4 opinion, authored by Kagen, with the other 3 liberals joining. Oh, and also Anthony Kennedy.

What a wonderful effect Kennedy has had on jurisprudence in America!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2017 06:04 PM (R+30W)

7 What a wonderful effect Kennedy has had on jurisprudence in America!

I don't trust that guy... Like to see him retire...

Posted by: hell at May 26, 2017 06:05 PM (O2RFr)

8 I think we need to recognize that the judiciary, much like the Ryan congress has chosen to stand with islam.

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at May 26, 2017 06:06 PM (3Liv/)

9 This doesn't mean he will automatically be released does it?

Posted by: hell at May 26, 2017 06:07 PM (O2RFr)

10 Does he get out or just get a new sentencing hearing?

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2017 06:07 PM (jw2Xw)

11 The Left's hatred of Christianity is causing it to commit suicide.

Posted by: Caliban at May 26, 2017 06:08 PM (QE8X6)

12 Ah no fear from Malvo...I mean I sure he has not been radicalized in prison. And I am just as sure that the NY Jets are sure Super Bowl winners this year.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:08 PM (SjImc)

13 Give him 20 years per shooting.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (jw2Xw)

14
A few years ago I predicted that not only will John Walker Lindh be out of prison in the near future, he'll probably be the Democrat nominee for president in 2024.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (J0tQ5)

15 We go one step forward and two steps back. It is so hard to keep up-beat when everything is so blasted contrary.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (+tKYk)

16 This doesn't mean he will automatically be released does it?
Posted by: hell at May 26, 2017 06:07 PM (O2RFr)

NO

It was only the sentence that was overturned. Not the guilty verdict. It is being sent back to the original court for a new sentence

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (SjImc)

17 10 Does he get out or just get a new sentencing hearing?
Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2017 06:07 PM (jw2Xw)

"Now, Malvo's case has been remanded back to Spotsylvania County Circuit Court to issue a new sentence"

Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (z/Ubi)

18 Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy were just ahead of their time. If they were convicted now, they'd be out in a few years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (SRKgf)

19 Judge Raymond Alvin Jackson was appointed by Billjeff Clinton and yes, he is black

Posted by: Under Fire at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (7KjSF)

20 He literally pulled the trigger, right? I mean, I know he mostly pulled look out, but I seem to recall he was the trigger man at least once, right? Isn't that first degree?

Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (q177U)

21 Absolutely disgusting. The judiciary is completely broken.

Anyone could look at a vile terrorist like that and see a rehabilitation target but likely agree with the Woman Who Will Never Be President that about half of this nation is Irredeemable based off of their political choices should be considered unfit for their seat.

This boils my blood.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (KqRop)

22 12 Ah no fear from Malvo...I mean I sure he has not been radicalized in prison. And I am just as sure that the NY Jets are sure Super Bowl winners this year.

Yes as long as they hire Kapernack as QB...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (O2RFr)

23 America

been nice knowin' ya

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (FZYNt)

24 Still time to shiv the murderous bastard?

Or is he already out?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (xJa6I)

25 It's 9/10 in America.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (IqV8l)

26
But I still can't get over no one on fake news cnn or msnbc is correcting the LIE hillary told the graduates about Nixon, but they keep playing her sick burn on Trump that the grads cheered loudly for.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (J0tQ5)

27 18 Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy were just ahead of their time. If they were convicted now, they'd be out in a few years.

Wrong skin color...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (O2RFr)

28 Sigh....I guess electing the God-Emperor was insufficient as a demonstration of the desire of normal people to have a government that holds up its side of the social contract.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (TwwWO)

29 Cue my rant about idiots bleating that some criminal should be shown leniency because he is "only 17/18/19."

WTF do they think commits most of the crimes? Old age pensioners?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:11 PM (SRKgf)

30 27 18 Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy were just ahead of their time. If they were convicted now, they'd be out in a few years.

Wrong skin color...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (O2RFr)

Dahmer was gay though wasn't he? That would be good enough.

Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2017 06:11 PM (z/Ubi)

31 But I still can't get over no one on fake news cnn or msnbc is correcting the LIE hillary told the graduates about Nixon, but they keep playing her sick burn on Trump that the grads cheered loudly for.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (J0tQ5)

Look on the bright side...everytime that FAB opens that vile mouth of hers, it means more support for our side. She is just preaching to the left wing crazy converted. let her babble on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:11 PM (SjImc)

32 how about 25 years for each death, running consecutively?

and no time off for "good behavior"...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2017 06:11 PM (GK0gz)

33
Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy were just ahead of their time. If they were convicted now, they'd be out in a few years.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I don't think they fit the eligibility class for redemption.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:12 PM (IqV8l)

34 Wrong skin color...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:10 PM (O2RFr)

Ah, but you forget: they homosexual. Which is almost as good as having the right skin color.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:12 PM (SRKgf)

35
Turn him loose. It kept traffic down on the beltway around 95 around Washington.

Considering I'm one of the few conservatives traversing that route I think my odds are extremely good.

I suppose I should feel bad about writing that.

But it's not happening.

Posted by: Potest Solum Unum at May 26, 2017 06:12 PM (HTdUD)

36 Dahmer was gay though wasn't he? That would be good enough.
Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2017 06:11 PM (z/Ubi)

And quite the gourmet also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:12 PM (SjImc)

37 and i thought the toughest penalty was death...

both of those scumbags should have been worm food years ago.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 26, 2017 06:13 PM (GK0gz)

38 31 But I still can't get over no one on fake news cnn or msnbc is correcting the LIE hillary told the graduates about Nixon, but they keep playing her sick burn on Trump that the grads cheered loudly for.

It's Wellesley so...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:13 PM (O2RFr)

39 On a related note: The killing of Christians by Muslims

Donald Trump Reacts to Egypt Ramadan Terror: The Bloodletting of Christians Must End

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:14 PM (SjImc)

40 This kid thought it was great fun to shoot people, hanging with his buddy in the trunk.

Excuse me if I do not believe in clemency to the unrepentant.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2017 06:14 PM (JNqRY)

41
Sick Burn!!

She told them that Nixon got impeached for obstruction of justice, which is what Trump did, too, clinton implied. That's like, what, 4 lies??

These idiot stupid dummy college graduates cheered for this Untruth as hillary clinton just finished telling them they live in a time when "truth is under assault" or some dumb thing. I shit you not, she said that. And then she lied about Nixon. Nixon was never impeached!!

But the irony in this Sick Burn is that Bill Clinton was impeached, and he was impeached for.....

obstruction of justice!!

Sick Burn, my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:14 PM (J0tQ5)

42 A few years ago I predicted that not only will John Walker Lindh be out
of prison in the near future, he'll probably be the Democrat nominee for
president in 2024.

Projected release date: May 23, 2019. So you still have a shot.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2017 06:14 PM (qJhUV)

43 judges. gitmo. now.

Posted by: Leroy Jethro Gibbs at May 26, 2017 06:14 PM (DpOmP)

44 sadz I h ssed the gainzz thread

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 26, 2017 06:14 PM (hMwEB)

45 12 Ah no fear from Malvo...I mean I sure he has not been radicalized in prison.

How much more radicalized could he get? Takes scalps after each kill? Adds torture to his repertoire?

More likely, he's been busy radding the other prisoners.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 26, 2017 06:15 PM (wTwJ2)

46 They wants them that sweet sweet European justice.

I think some things here the sentence is way out of proportion, but not here.

John Allen Muhammad though he got the fast track to the death chamber. That's why I'm a bit surprised about this story because these guys threatened our betters in Panem's capitol. You don't do that without paying a price.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 26, 2017 06:15 PM (4ErVI)

47 Wonderful. /sarc

He can be the driver now. All he needs is to hook up with a shooter willing to ride around in the trunk.

Posted by: gracepc at May 26, 2017 06:15 PM (OU4q6)

48 Rama-lama-ding-dong starts at sundown in the States! Yay.

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 26, 2017 06:15 PM (e9G8E)

49 He wasn't given the harshest sentence. His partner was.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 26, 2017 06:16 PM (IDPbH)

50 Was Malvo the junk in the trunk?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:16 PM (IqV8l)

51
Projected release date: May 23, 2019. So you still have a shot.

Isn't that sick?

A War Criminal and murderer.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:16 PM (J0tQ5)

52 Ah yes, the "prospects for reform" clause of the 8th amendment.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 26, 2017 06:17 PM (xzV6l)

53

Terrorism will be taken seriously when judges, academics, "public intellectuals", politicians, actors, celebrities and journalists are the victims.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2017 06:17 PM (U46nb)

54 Now, Malvo's case has been remanded back to Spotsylvania County Circuit Court to issue a new sentence

"Go fuck yourself" is a sentence, isn't it?

Subject, predicate ... looks OK.

Posted by: wait, what? at May 26, 2017 06:17 PM (wpC7C)

55 I wonder if Chelsea Manning has had his mani/pedi yet?

And yes, "HIS."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:17 PM (PY9jH)

56 I lived through that. Running from car to store, kids kept inside, sports canceled, only going to places with underground parking.

This asshole laid in the back of a car and murdered people who were going about their lives.

For Allah.

He should have been executed.

Posted by: dagny at May 26, 2017 06:17 PM (xrSGs)

57 53

Terrorism will be taken seriously when judges, academics, "public intellectuals", politicians, actors, celebrities and journalists are the victims.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2017 06:17 PM (U46nb)

Why would they kill or otherwise harm their allies?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (4ErVI)

58 55
I wonder if Chelsea Manning has had his mani/pedi yet?

And yes, "HIS."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:17 PM (PY9jH)
And a brazilian wax.

Posted by: IC at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (a0IVu)

59 Thanks for this one, Ace. I was gobsmacked to see this.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (EgOr3)

60
you think politifact will give any pinnochios to hillary clinton's commencement?

She told at least 20 lies. Huge lies. Lies that contradict historically known Facts that everyone knows.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (J0tQ5)

61 Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2017 06:11 PM (z/Ubi)

Dude, Gacy's victim's were all boys and you can't make me believe he didn't do more than just torture them.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (Y9+RI)

62 Kritarchy.... rule of Judges....

Posted by: Don Q. at May 26, 2017 06:19 PM (NgKpN)

63 60
you think politifact will give any pinnochios to hillary clinton's commencement?

She told at least 20 lies. Huge lies. Lies that contradict historically known Facts that everyone knows.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (J0tQ5)

I couldn't hear anything over the non-stop coughing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 26, 2017 06:19 PM (4ErVI)

64 When a few of these miscreants heads explode in a pink mist, this shit will end.

Time is coming. Or, .....

....we all just roll over and play dead.

Our choice, I guess.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 26, 2017 06:20 PM (G9MZN)

65
My friends, you don't have to worry about this. I have very good security in my neighborhood. But thank you for your concern.

Posted by: John McCain at May 26, 2017 06:20 PM (HTdUD)

66 The new sentence should be death by firing squad.

Hell, I'll do it alone. Give me permission.

Posted by: dagny at May 26, 2017 06:20 PM (xrSGs)

67 Dude, Gacy's victim's were all boys and you can't make me believe he didn't do more than just torture them.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (Y9+RI)
Yeah, another triumph of journalism, that one.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:21 PM (EgOr3)

68 I don't think they fit the eligibility class for redemption.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:12 PM (IqV8l)

So ... exactly like Malvo, then?

This judge acts as though Malvo was convicted of joy riding on Prom Night. He participated in a series of random murders over a period of weeks. His was not some trivial offense, or a one-off spur of the moment thing.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:21 PM (SRKgf)

69 I was waiting for the Frail Beast to collapse.

Would have made a glorious Friday.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2017 06:22 PM (89T5c)

70 Well technically he is a child till age 26... Uncle sugar says so...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:22 PM (O2RFr)

71 Violent drawings of Lee Boyd Malvo

http://bidoun.org/articles/the-education-of-lee-boyd-malvo

Posted by: hepcat at May 26, 2017 06:22 PM (5b+Sr)

72 Well, Barry, Mooch, ValJar and all our betters in DC will be well protected forever.

The rest of us are on our own.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:22 PM (PY9jH)

73 Well what a stupid argument, he wasspared our harshest punishment; his partner in crime was executed years ago.

That being said, I say give him 75 w/o parole next time around. That oughtta take care of it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:22 PM (Y9+RI)

74 Ariana Grande made sure to get the message out that she was ok after the terrorist attack and I know I speak for all of us when I say Whew! That was clooosseee. Good to know!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 26, 2017 06:22 PM (4ErVI)

75 On a somewhat related note, Tillerson declines to host Ramadan event at state department.

Can I just say he is turning out to be an inspired choice for Sec of State.

Posted by: IC at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (a0IVu)

76 It's great COUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGH to be back COUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGH where I COUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGH munched my first COUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGHCOUGH pussy!

Posted by: Hillary! at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (qJhUV)

77 I also seem to remember an article in which the young whackjob waxes rhapsodic about how much fun it was to shoot people. Also, he really likes the bushmaster they used IIRC, saying "All it does is kill!"

Great insight from this bright spark. I can feel the regret and repentance from here. Wait that is just the Taco Bell I had.

Posted by: Aetius451AD's work phone at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (9KOoj)

78 "She told at least 20 lies. Huge lies. Lies that contradict historically known Facts that everyone knows."

There have been anecdotes related by zombie about how in the San Francisco public schools in recent years, pupils have been taught that Richard Nixon started the Vietnam War.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (ujwCG)

79 Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:21 PM (EgOr3)

Hey girl!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (Y9+RI)

80 So the excuse was that he was having butt sex with Mohammad.

Is that right?

Posted by: dagny at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (xrSGs)

81 Been a banner day for my attitude, what with pederasts, baby murderers and America-hating progressives.

Gonna go hang out with my family. Maybe we'll binge watch old MSTs.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Reaching for the BP Meds at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (RwwCT)

82 Just heard an audio clip of Cankles' and the more she coughed and choked, the more insane the applause. It's just unbelievable.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:24 PM (EgOr3)

83 It's far more important for liberal judges to thwart Trump's agenda than do even the slightest thing to protect American citizens. I hope this guy gets fucked to death by lobsters.

Remember, 99% of these people who are able to influence our safety have never done a dangerous thing in their lives; they weren't soldiers, they weren't police officers, they weren't fireman. Hell, most have never even so much as dealt with an angry dog, let alone the two legged wolves we have walking around this country.

Posted by: UGAdawg at May 26, 2017 06:24 PM (HL3BI)

84
pupils have been taught that Richard Nixon started the Vietnam War.

Yeah!!

It's referred to as Nixon's War, or Nixon's Quagmire, or as Nixon's Viet Nam War.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:24 PM (J0tQ5)

85 What a crappy day. I want husband to get home and take me for a burger. GAINZZ be damned.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:25 PM (PY9jH)

86 I want husband to get home and take me for a burger. GAINZZ be damned.

Why? You wearing a bun?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (O2RFr)

87 The decision in the Supreme Court case ruled juveniles are constitutionally different from adults for the purposes of sentencing "because juveniles have diminished culpability and greater prospects for reform,"

Sentencing of serial murderers is not based on their 'prospects for reform".

That said, so Lee Boyd Malvo might have "greater prospects for reform" than adult serial killers ... but his prospects still hover right in the neighborhood of ZERO.

And serial killers are not entitled to any chance to reform. They have proven themselves dangerous enough to be taken out of society forever.

Malvo never should have gotten a life sentence. He should have been fried. And this judge is an accomplice of the Beltway snipers, now, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (zc3Db)

88
He literally pulled the trigger, right? I mean, I know he mostly pulled look out, but I seem to recall he was the trigger man at least once, right? Isn't that first degree?

Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (q177U)

I think he was actually the triggerman on most of the killings. I'm not crazy about going back to look it up though.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (quw2O)

89 Here's one that didn't get away, not that I advocate that sort of thing.

https://tinyurl.com/ya6gxocr

Posted by: Javems at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (yOqwj)

90 My execution for Malvo would be for him to take his hour rec everyday by himself in a yard bordered by a dozen cars that he is told that one contains a sniper and one day ....

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (IDPbH)

91 "On a somewhat related note, Tillerson declines to host Ramadan event at state department."

T.Rex also, unfortunately, opined that Western countries "need to do a better job" of welcoming immigrants and helping them to assimilate.

No. Wrong. The burden isn't on us. It's on them. Generations of immigrants before them have successfully assimilated. If a specific group of immigrants won't, or can't, do so, that is not the fault of our society. It's their fault.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (ujwCG)

92 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 26, 2017 06:22 PM (4ErVI)

I realize she must have been in shock and scared and what not, but would it have hurt her ass any to go see some of the kids in the hospital?? I was shocked that she came home.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (Y9+RI)

93 Hey, Tammy! Hey, Jane!

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (EgOr3)

94 Dude, Gacy's victim's were all boys and you can't make me believe he didn't do more than just torture them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (Y9+RI)

======

This happened in a town next door to mine. That evil fcuk killed a guy I went to school with. May he forever have to suck Satan's barbed cock while standing on his head in the hottest corner of hell.

Posted by: GOULD at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (Hj4t4)

95 Too bad it won't be Judge Jackson he kills when he recidivs.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM (dZ756)

96
I just watched a little BBC News on my local PBS channel and they reported and showed President Trump "shoving" the whatever of Montenegro!!

It was nothing of the sort!!

Trump pivoted his own body around Montenegro guy while affectionately placing a hand on the man. It was actually quite athletic.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM (J0tQ5)

97 Amazing how the Muslim method of grooming sociopath soldiers using homosexual rape of young boys doesn't get much play in the media.

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM (9TU00)

98 Dude, Gacy's victim's were all boys and you can't make me believe he didn't do more than just torture them.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (Y9+RI)

Gacy was queer as a duck.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM (SRKgf)

99 I just saw a picture of judge jackson ... can't say I'm surprised.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM (zc3Db)

100 91, Posted by: torquewrench at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (ujwCG)

Did he really say that? Ugh.

Posted by: IC at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM (a0IVu)

101 Posted by: Max Power at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (q177U)

I thought they had him do most of it since he was a minor?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:28 PM (Y9+RI)

102 Why? You wearing a bun?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (O2RFr)

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:28 PM (EgOr3)

103 72 Well, Barry, Mooch, ValJar and all our betters in DC will be well protected forever.

Yes, and whatever surfaces will be buried, ridiculed and thrown away.

That die has been cast and decisions need to be made as far as just how far people are willing to go.

How much of the comfortable build, you spent a lifetime building, are you willing to throw away, for a life on the run?

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 26, 2017 06:28 PM (G9MZN)

104 It's The Frail Beasts alma mater. The grads were all carpetmunchers that were conceived by turkeybasters by carpetmunchers.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2017 06:29 PM (89T5c)

105 Hey, Peaches!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:29 PM (PY9jH)

106 This Malvo character is an exception to the rule. I have no problem throwing away the key on him. His consideration for his 'tender years' is that he didn't get the death penalty.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2017 06:30 PM (JO9+V)

107 "I was shocked that [Burrito Grande] came home."

Came "home" to a country she openly despises and rubbishes.

"I hate America. I hate Americans."

Posted by: torquewrench at May 26, 2017 06:30 PM (ujwCG)

108
There have been anecdotes related by zombie about how in the San Francisco public schools in recent years, pupils have been taught that Richard Nixon started the Vietnam War.
Posted by: torquewrench

Det. Arthur Dietrich on Barney Miller said that the USA sent troops to Viet Nam in the Eisenhower administration and Nixon was VP, so...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:30 PM (IqV8l)

109
I think he was actually the triggerman on most of the killings. I'm not crazy about going back to look it up though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Yes. I drive past the Fairfax site several times a week.

It's only thru the grace of God that we haven't had copy cats.

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2017 06:31 PM (9TU00)

110 Posted by: torquewrench at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (ujwCG)

Maybe he meant help them assimilate by not coddling to their every need like government forms required in every language. In your state of CA they make the insurance carriers pay for interpreters for any WC claimants that claim they need one.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 26, 2017 06:31 PM (IDPbH)

111 I hate to say this, but I truly think that until a significant number of elites get Jihadied to death, nothing is going to really change.

Posted by: Strobe at May 26, 2017 06:31 PM (gbWkA)

112 (censored)

Posted by: nip at May 26, 2017 06:31 PM (VqJRJ)

113 Dude, Gacy's victim's were all boys and you can't make me believe he didn't do more than just torture them.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (Y9+RI)

Its hard to remember all these psychopaths proclivities. Eating people, sex with their entrails, waygu steak and dog.

Posted by: buzzion at May 26, 2017 06:32 PM (z/Ubi)

114 99 I just saw a picture of judge jackson ... can't say I'm surprised.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM (zc3Db)

Yes. It all snaps into sharp focus, doesn't it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:33 PM (SRKgf)

115 pupils have been taught that Richard Nixon started the Vietnam War.

Posted by: torquewrench

To be fair, they have to kinda squeeze that kind of misinformation in, between the Mexican heritage slobbering and the "I have two mommies" canard. Plus, math is hard.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:33 PM (EgOr3)

116 Jail is not about rehabilitation. Jail is about punishment and justice. Whether you get to be a better person or not does not somehow negate the crimes you committed in the past.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2017 06:33 PM (39g3+)

117
rump pivoted his own body around Montenegro guy while affectionately placing a hand on the man. It was actually quite athletic.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:27 PM

Oh come now, he body slammed the guy!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:34 PM (IqV8l)

118 111 I hate to say this, but I truly think that until a significant number of elites get Jihadied to death, nothing is going to really change.
Posted by: Strobe at May 26, 2017 06:31 PM (gbWkA)

Why do you hate to say it? I've been hoping for that for years. It's the only way we'll get to stop this shit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:34 PM (SRKgf)

119 111 I hate to say this, but I truly think that until a significant number of elites get Jihadied to death, nothing is going to really change.
Posted by: Strobe at May 26, 2017 06:31 PM (gbWkA)

No. They need to be taken out.

Period.

.....and not by, .... "jihadis"

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 26, 2017 06:34 PM (G9MZN)

120 :types:

:deletes:

Posted by: josephistan at May 26, 2017 06:35 PM (ANIFC)

121 Judge was born in '49? Fucking hippy.

Posted by: Strobe at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (gbWkA)

122
I realize she must have been in shock and scared and what not, but would it have hurt her ass any to go see some of the kids in the hospital?? I was shocked that she came home.

Priorities: cupcakes aren't going to lick themselves...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (AJwk0)

123 Oh God I just heard a MeAgain Kelly ad.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (4ErVI)

124
You know Democrats love to campaign on how they're "fighting for you"?

Well, Giant Fort is Fighting For Me, then!!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (J0tQ5)

125 104 It's The Frail Beasts alma mater. The grads were all carpetmunchers that were conceived by turkeybasters by carpetmunchers.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2017 06:29 PM (89T5c)

Boy, isn't that the truth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (SRKgf)

126 Please, please place blame at the feet of the Supreme Court, and specifically Anthony Kennedy.

Posted by: Rich at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (ygBCA)

127 Skylar F. , will you accept this bomb?

Posted by: Bachelor Djokhar Tsarnaev at May 26, 2017 06:37 PM (bRWtO)

128 OK, I don't hate to say it!

Posted by: Strobe at May 26, 2017 06:37 PM (gbWkA)

129 How many 17 year olds sign student loan acceptance papers?

Posted by: Chigger Fleas at May 26, 2017 06:37 PM (fD1ST)

130
I love what Giant Fort did. I don't care.

That guy wasn't a reporter or a journalist. He's a leftist activist agitator. He deserved to be smacked around.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:37 PM (J0tQ5)

131 I'm not a fan of the message that this sends.

Posted by: Zombie Jane, Pinkman's Girlfriend at May 26, 2017 06:37 PM (2qHjF)

132 Unless you're willing to stand up to these cretins, at the risk of everything you are and have lived for,

....they will eventually win.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 26, 2017 06:38 PM (G9MZN)

133 128 OK, I don't hate to say it!
Posted by: Strobe at May 26, 2017 06:37 PM (gbWkA)

Attaboy!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:38 PM (SRKgf)

134 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2017 06:34 PM (SRKgf)

I expressed my sympathy for the dude that was killed in Manchester ironically shortly after he made a pro Muslim / Dont Be Haters tweet.

I can't say I was that sincere and I hate them for making me feel that way.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 26, 2017 06:38 PM (IDPbH)

135 T.Rex also, unfortunately, opined that Western countries "need to do a better job" of welcoming immigrants and helping them to assimilate.

No. Wrong. The burden isn't on us. It's on them. Generations of immigrants before them have successfully assimilated. If a specific group of immigrants won't, or can't, do so, that is not the fault of our society. It's their fault.
Posted by: torquewrench

It's boilerplate platitudious nonsense of course, but there is a point to be made in term of assimilation.

The US generally and Western Europe in specific have adopted a broad societal pyschology of self-loathing primarily through media and academia. The West is inherently evil and responsible for all the world's problems, past and present. I'm sure you're familiar with this.

In this atmosphere it's a damned near miracle that immigrants would want to assimilate. Why would they if all they hear is "RACISM, RACISM, ISLAMOPHOBE, COLONIALIST, ANTI, ANTI, ANTI!!"

We've allowed the Left to turn our countries' intellectual resources into our own enemy propagandists.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 26, 2017 06:38 PM (udajc)

136 I hope this guy gets fucked to death by lobsters.
Cock lobsters?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 26, 2017 06:38 PM (nlbfN)

137 Judges are as full of themselves as college professors.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2017 06:39 PM (oVJmc)

138 no prisoners

Posted by: Flying Allende Brothers at May 26, 2017 06:39 PM (nFwvY)

139 +This just goes to show there's no such thing as a middle of the road liberal, they're all lock step.

Of course, there's no such thing as a gutsy GOP pol. Way to rubberstamp Obama's judicial picks. Look at the reciprocal collegiality we got!

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at May 26, 2017 06:39 PM (g9A94)

140 Please, please place blame at the feet of the Supreme Court, and specifically Anthony Kennedy.

Posted by: Rich at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (ygBCA)

That SCOTUS decision had nothing to do with judge ray jackson's aiding and abetting of a serial killer.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2017 06:39 PM (zc3Db)

141 In two years, Djokhar Tsarnaev will be The Bachelor.

Posted by: Ace at 06:08 PM

Get me the Attorney General's agent.

Scratch that, get me the President's agent!

Posted by: Damon Killian at May 26, 2017 06:40 PM (1JnAL)

142 123 Oh God I just heard a MeAgain Kelly ad.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 26, 2017 06:36 PM (4ErVI)

They use funeral restorative services grade makeup on that corpse. Those pictures from Hawaii of her without makeup would kill Moses.

Posted by: Zombie Jane, Pinkman's Girlfriend at May 26, 2017 06:40 PM (2qHjF)

143 I remember the media during all this. The shooter is obviously a bitter, angry white man. Most likely a disgruntled veteran. Possibly a member of an anti government militia.

Oooooops...

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2017 06:40 PM (qJhUV)

144 It's boilerplate platitudious nonsense of course, but there is a point to be made in term of assimilation.

Sorry. Rayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyycissssssss........

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 26, 2017 06:40 PM (G9MZN)

145 Aiding and Abetting Terrorism. Judges. Gitmo. Now.

Posted by: Leroy Jethro Gibbs at May 26, 2017 06:40 PM (DpOmP)

146 I have nothing specific to say that won't get me banned or investigated. I'm furious and this is just one more example of our "betters" killing our country one bit at a time.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (0mRoj)

147 Is Wayne Williams still alive? I wonder if there's a judge of a certain *cough* coloration *cough* thinking to himself, "That man has suffered enough.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (PY9jH)

148 Not to be a downer but this judge had no choice. He had to follow the Miller v. Alabama ruling.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (EWXim)

149 "That man has suffered enough.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (PY9jH)

Judge in CA the other day gave a 4 month sentence to a guy who'd gotten his 16-year-old sister super stoned on some kind of weed product even I haven't heard of and then raped her. Because, "the stigma is enough of a punishment." I shit you not.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:42 PM (EgOr3)

150
I just want to say, I appreciate the outpouring of support and concern for Cindy and I in this thread, but... we have many layers of security providing us with protection against the Tea Party types.

Our one true concern.

Posted by: John McCain at May 26, 2017 06:43 PM (HTdUD)

151 I remember the media during all this. The shooter is obviously a bitter, angry white man. Most likely a disgruntled veteran. Possibly a member of an anti government militia.

Oooooops...

Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2017 06:40 PM (qJhUV)

Chief Moose went out of his way to instruct his people not to stop black guys. he was the one really screaming that bullshit about it being whites out over the airwaves.

ANd then he just skipped away from the job he did so poorly - criminally poorly - and wrote some shit book about something.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2017 06:43 PM (zc3Db)

152 143 I remember the media during all this. The shooter is obviously a bitter, angry white man. Most likely a disgruntled veteran. Possibly a member of an anti government militia.

Oooooops...
Posted by: tu3031 at May 26, 2017 06:40 PM (qJhUV)

They have done this for every shooting/terrorist event since 9-11 only to have it blow up their faces when it comes out that the perp is in a protected class.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 26, 2017 06:43 PM (1JnAL)

153 let malvo live with that judge. until it hits hime big time for these free thinking assholes nothing will change. ever. they are worse than commies.

re; hillary,
so, a choking, gagging, lying, never was or will be spews her bullshit to an audience of fucktards who in turn lap it up like the nectar of a godess. what did we expect? all i know bitch will never be president.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 26, 2017 06:43 PM (KP5rU)

154 Just went and looked at some of the info on the case:

1) Chief Moose- he is/was a piece of work. Fixating on a white van and discounting any thought that it could be black killers.

2) Lots of stuff from Malvo. Seems like a real charming kid. I do not discount that he may have been programmed, but sometimes people are just evil. They need to be taken off the game board.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2017 06:43 PM (JNqRY)

155 that song about juvenile gang violence by The Offspring comes to mind:

"Hey--Yay--don't pay no mind!!!
You're under 18--you won't be doing any time...."

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:44 PM (ujg0T)

156 Not to be a downer but this judge had no choice. He had to follow the Miller v. Alabama ruling.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (EWXim)

Disagree. Malvo was cold blooded and entirely lacking any remorse for his acts. He is the exception to the precedent and should be treated as such.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 26, 2017 06:44 PM (JO9+V)

157 I remember the media during all this. The shooter is obviously a bitter, angry white man. Most likely a disgruntled veteran. Possibly a member of an anti government militia.

Yeah they kept catching the actual shooter over and over... and letting him go. Didn't fit the profile. Can't be our man. Chief was telling the cops they were wrong when they were doing their job correctly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2017 06:45 PM (39g3+)

158 And in point one I mean white van, not man. There were several reports of the car at various crime scenes but they were discounted because of the fixation on a white van.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2017 06:46 PM (JNqRY)

159 Judicial coup status:

[X] Intact
[ ] Reversed

When I started providing this valuable update service (immediately following the first illegal, non-binding order from the WA district court), I wondered whether the only apparent path to restoring rule of law was for these judicial rulings to get more and more outlandishly lawless and ridiculous - and to affect more and more concretely important things.

That is, that only by being emboldened by this brazen lawlessness, the judiciary would quadruple down in such a way that, finally, "something" had to be done.

Pretty clear now that NOTHING will shake people out of their brain-dead, lazy, and constitutionally/historically illiterate torpor that, zombie-like, can only murmur "must defer to courts, must defer to courts". If there were an administration where the stars had aligned for the long-overdue correction, this one (product of a national rebellion, in effect) was it.

But here we are. Almost June. The review period mandated by the EO would have expired by now.

Still have a teeny bit of hope that *some* level of outrageous, brazen lawlessness by the judiciary *might* provoke the desperately needed response - repudiation, with comprehensive explanation, aggressively explained. Cannot believe that these dim, largely alien, lawless dipshits in the judiciary will be able to resist assuming further executive and legislative powers.

But Sessions is unlikely to have other than the robotic default mindset that stipulates the effective end of the constitution (without understanding that). So it all comes down to a bombastic real estate developer.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (QDnY+)

160 Not to be a downer but this judge had no choice. He had to follow the Miller v. Alabama ruling.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (EWXim)

I'm with you on this one...if I demand that lower courts follow SC rulings such as the president's righ to manage immigration, then a SC ruling that says minors cannot receive life sentences(which is what I believe the original ruling was about) should be followed.

I also remember when Malvo was sentenced, the general thinking was that the life sentence without parole was going to be overturned.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (31ZTX)

161 Not to be a downer but this judge had no choice. He had to follow the Miller v. Alabama ruling.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (EWXim)

Fine. He was here illegally. Send him back to Jamaica.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (EgOr3)

162 Does anyone really, honestly, truthfully, sincerely, deep-down-in-your-shriveled-little-heart think we're going to work all this shit out without some sort of major social upheaval?

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (Sfs6o)

163 5-4 opinion, authored by Kagen, with the other 3 liberals joining. Oh, and also Anthony Kennedy.

What a wonderful effect Kennedy has had on jurisprudence in America!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 26, 2017 06:04 PM (R+30W)

Bolshie bulldyke Kagan is not surprising, but Anthony Kennedy, Pride of University of the Pacific's McGeorge School Of Law, continues to disappoint and disgust.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:48 PM (ujg0T)

164 Apparently seventeen-year-olds are fully formed enough to make a decision to cut off their penis if they think they are a woman, but can't be responsible for the decision to murder.

Posted by: mark1971 at May 26, 2017 06:49 PM (xPl2J)

165 148 Not to be a downer but this judge had no choice. He had to follow the Miller v. Alabama ruling.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at May 26, 2017 06:41 PM (EWXim)

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. That said , Malvo can still be given life at his resentencing.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 26, 2017 06:49 PM (IDPbH)

166 This is a prime reason why there should be a death penalty enforced in less than one year. No stupid black robe can reverse that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2017 06:49 PM (mpXpK)

167 Sir, there is a series of Constitutional crises holding on lines 4 and 9. Plus some shit on the intercom.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at May 26, 2017 06:49 PM (hKi6n)

168 Does anyone really, honestly, truthfully, sincerely,
deep-down-in-your-shriveled-little-heart think we're going to work all
this shit out without some sort of major social upheaval?

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (Sfs6o)

No. No, I really don't. Just hope I'm still around and able and ammo'd up when it happens.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:49 PM (EgOr3)

169 162 Does anyone really, honestly, truthfully, sincerely, deep-down-in-your-shriveled-little-heart think we're going to work all this shit out without some sort of major social upheaval?
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (Sfs6o)

No.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 26, 2017 06:50 PM (0mRoj)

170 Nope. If exceptions are to be made they must come from SCOTUS not lower level court. The evil here is Miller.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at May 26, 2017 06:51 PM (EWXim)

171 111--- I hate to say this, but I truly think that until a significant number of elites get Jihadied to death, nothing is going to really change.
Posted by: Strobe at May 26, 2017 06:31 PM (gbWkA)
----------------------------------
Even then, .... I dunno.
A few thousand New Yorkers were killed on 9/11 and they got over it.

Now, maybe if some important individual like Beyonce or Lena Dunham or Chucky Schumer had been pulverized, they'd remember a bit longer.
But my guess is that they would just blame it on wingnut h8rs --- like the Orlando massacre. (Remember the marchers in NYC carrying a "Republican hate kills" banner after that one?)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2017 06:51 PM (0jtPF)

172 Does anyone really, honestly, truthfully, sincerely,
deep-down-in-your-shriveled-little-heart think we're going to work all
this shit out without some sort of major social upheaval?

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (Sfs6o)

So just to be clear here, your suggesting we buy more ammunition?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:51 PM (SjImc)

173 Posted by: Hillary! at May 26, 2017 06:23

How come all the clips I've seen of her on FNC don't show or mention the continual coughing?

Her health was an issue in the campaign and even FNC is covering for her?

Posted by: Farmer at May 26, 2017 06:51 PM (o/90i)

174 162 Does anyone really, honestly, truthfully, sincerely, deep-down-in-your-shriveled-little-heart think we're going to work all this shit out without some sort of major social upheaval?
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (Sfs6o)

Nope. They are beyond insane.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 26, 2017 06:52 PM (G9MZN)

175 No. No, I really don't. Just hope I'm still around and able and ammo'd up when it happens.
Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:49 PM (EgOr3)

=======

I hear ya. I don't want to dealing with this shit when I'm in my 70s/80s.

Posted by: GOULD at May 26, 2017 06:52 PM (Hj4t4)

176 14
A few years ago I predicted that not only will John Walker Lindh be out of prison in the near future, he'll probably be the Democrat nominee for president in 2024.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 26, 2017 06:09 PM (J0tQ5)

By the way, did you know that O.J. Simpson and John Walker Lindh had something in common when it came to parenting? Fascinating read:

https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-California-Cultural-Rumbles/dp/1416531033

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:52 PM (ujg0T)

177 I'm with you on this one...if I demand that lower courts follow SC rulings such as the president's righ to manage immigration, then a SC ruling that says minors cannot receive life sentences(which is what I believe the original ruling was about) should be followed.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM (31ZTX)

That's not what the ruling said. Juveniles can receive life sentences.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2017 06:52 PM (zc3Db)

178 How come all the clips I've seen of her on FNC don't show or mention the continual coughing?

Her health was an issue in the campaign and even FNC is covering for her?
Posted by: Farmer at May 26, 2017 06:51 PM (o/90i)

because, she no longer matters and is really just a dead women walking and a national joke. Not to mention a gold mine for The Right. let her keep talking and coughing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:53 PM (SjImc)

179 since when does SCOTUS rulings apply to the lower courts

Posted by: 9th Circuit at May 26, 2017 06:53 PM (DpOmP)

180 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 26, 2017 06:52 PM (zc3Db)

Life with no chance of parole. Can still be given a life sentence.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 26, 2017 06:54 PM (IDPbH)

181
Does anyone really, honestly, truthfully, sincerely, deep-down-in-your-shriveled-little-heart think we're going to work all this shit out without some sort of major social upheaval?
Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM

Are we not upheaving?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:54 PM (IqV8l)

182 "Now, Malvo's case has been remanded back to Spotsylvania County Circuit Court to issue a new sentence."

Shorten his sentence to a week in a car trunk in Florida in the Summer.

Posted by: freaked at May 26, 2017 06:55 PM (BO/km)

183 135 T.Rex also, unfortunately, opined that Western countries "need to do a better job" of welcoming immigrants and helping them to assimilate.

No. Wrong. The burden isn't on us. It's on them. Generations of immigrants before them have successfully assimilated. If a specific group of immigrants won't, or can't, do so, that is not the fault of our society. It's their fault.
Posted by: torquewrench

Actually, before multi-communist multi-culturalism took over Education, one argument for public schooling was that it was *supposed* to encourage the assimilation of all those immigrants.

In those days the immigrants were mostly Polish and Italian and Yiddish etc., rather than Latino and Arabic and Southeast Asian, but anyway....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:56 PM (ujg0T)

184 Not My Judiciary!!!!!

(best I can do...considering)

Posted by: nip at May 26, 2017 06:56 PM (VqJRJ)

185 Shorten his sentence to a week in a car trunk in Florida in the Summer.
Posted by: freaked at May 26, 2017 06:55 PM (BO/km)

I read that quickly and at first glance thought it said Sumter, as in Fort Sumter...and I thought Bravo, nice touch...LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:57 PM (SjImc)

186 By the way, did you know that O.J. Simpson and John Walker Lindh had something in common when it came to parenting? Fascinating read:

https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-California-Cultural-Rumbles/dp/1416531033

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:52 PM (

Are you trying to depress me? It's working.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 26, 2017 06:57 PM (Ri/rl)

187 Actually, before multi-communist multi-culturalism took over Education, one argument for public schooling was that it was *supposed* to encourage the assimilation of all those immigrants.

In those days the immigrants were mostly Polish and Italian and Yiddish etc., rather than Latino and Arabic and Southeast Asian, but anyway....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:56 PM (ujg0T)

Hah!!! That's so early-mid 60's.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 26, 2017 06:58 PM (G9MZN)

188 Malvo was 17. Okay, life without parole until he has one year to live.

Posted by: OCBill at May 26, 2017 06:58 PM (df+Zi)

189 Ten consecutive life sentences should be ok

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2017 06:59 PM (9TU00)

190 50 Was Malvo the junk in the trunk?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 06:16 PM (IqV8l)

He was John Muhammad's gay lover, apparently.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:59 PM (ujg0T)

191 WTF? Trying a teenager as an adult isn't a new thing. We've done this for ages, even putting them to death.

This piece of shit didn't even get the death penalty. There's no reason to let him out of jail. Ever.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 26, 2017 07:00 PM (+azJs)

192 Malvo was 17. Okay, life without parole until he has one year to live.
Posted by: OCBill at May 26, 2017 06:58 PM (df+Zi)

Would you be so kind to let me know when I only have one year to live? I got this list here

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 07:00 PM (SjImc)

193 Malvo was 17. Okay, life without parole until he has one year to live.
Posted by: OCBill

Well he's not 17 now, so just re-sentence him - to death.

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2017 07:00 PM (9TU00)

194 So just to be clear here, your suggesting we buy more ammunition?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 06:51 PM (SjImc)
-------------
That's an interesting question, and the answer I think, is maybe. I seriously doubt most people are prepared to go all urban commando, but I really do think people who are so inclined should be preparing now and acquiring the means to defend themselves and their property. I just can't see this ending without a protracted period of chaos.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 07:00 PM (Sfs6o)

195 If it's the right guy, Hang 'Em High

Posted by: Marshall Jed Cooper at May 26, 2017 07:01 PM (DpOmP)

196 Weasel, if you mean violent social upheaval, then no, I don't see that happening. But then again I don't see this stuff being "worked out".

I see long term pain, some in the form of spectacular s**t (terrorist attacks that could have been avoided, more and more histrionic lawlessness from the courts, and law enforcement, etc.), but mostly in the form of aren't of decline, opportunity cost, and segregation.

Not much to "work out" with any completely mislabeled "progressive". Racist as a Klan kleagle, authoritarian as a Bolshevik true believer in the Russian civil war, ignorant and unworldly as a hamster on science, economics, and history.

And the masses of dumbed-down NPR-listening suburbanites, who have less and less f***ing clue what "their" side even stands for any more - marinating in the toxic soup provided by media/academia/pop culture/(even some churches) .... if they aren't directly immediately hurt by some stupid policy, they're for it.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2017 07:01 PM (QDnY+)

197 48 Rama-lama-ding-dong starts at sundown in the States! Yay.
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 26, 2017 06:15 PM (e9G8E)

By the way, for some most offensive humor about that, see this YouTube parody. Obviously NSFW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhpjoMgZUKM

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 07:01 PM (ujg0T)

198 67 Dude, Gacy's victim's were all boys and you can't make me believe he didn't do more than just torture them.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:18 PM (Y9+RI)
Yeah, another triumph of journalism, that one.
Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 06:21 PM (EgOr3)

Like the murderers of Jesse Dirkhising, Gay Murderers get a pass.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 07:02 PM (ujg0T)

199 Does anyone really, honestly, truthfully, sincerely,
deep-down-in-your-shriveled-little-heart think we're going to work all
this shit out without some sort of major social upheaval?

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM

Cue the Defenders of the Establishment and Working Within The System...

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at May 26, 2017 07:03 PM (3Liv/)

200 194. Madge the Manicurist said it best - 'You're soaking in it.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 26, 2017 07:04 PM (TwwWO)

201 78,
"San Francisco public schools in recent years, pupils have been taught that Richard Nixon started the Vietnam War."

Tricky Dick's other nickname was LBJ eh? "Hey, hey, LBJ...."

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 26, 2017 07:04 PM (d3wbb)

202 Ugh, sorry I'm coming in here late.

I lived here when this asshole and his asshole enabler were terrorizing the area. Getting gasoline was a tenuous affair for a time, and I got to where I was going serpentine to the gas pump then getting back in the car while the pump ran.

And yeah, it was the liberal soccer moms who were especially nervous and demanding of protection and all of that.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 26, 2017 07:05 PM (tVWQB)

203 I worry this also sets a precedent. There were several high profile murders by kids I can think of where I have seen stories recently where they are trying to get their sentences commuted now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2017 07:05 PM (JNqRY)

204 As Prager might say -why is this guy alive when the victims he murdered are dead?

Posted by: Glenn John at May 26, 2017 07:06 PM (LilNs)

205 17-year-olds that murder in the name of Allah have the greatest chance to reform ... into an even greater mass murderer of the innocent. He will learn new tricks while in prison with other jihadists.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 26, 2017 07:06 PM (yKkG7)

206 Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2017 07:01 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't see it getting better and I don't see it staying the same so that really just leaves one direction for things to go. i suspect the veneer of civility is much thinner than most people realize, particularly in areas of high population density where you have people of different economic strata living in close proximity.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 07:06 PM (Sfs6o)

207 "San Francisco public schools in recent years, pupils have been taught that Richard Nixon started the Vietnam War."

And don't forget all the slaves he lynched an the Antebellum South

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2017 07:06 PM (SjImc)

208 92 would it have hurt her ass any to go see some of the kids in the hospital?? I was shocked that she came home.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 06:26 PM (Y9+

QEII made a hospital visit yesterday. Daily mail U.K. Had story & pics.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2017 07:08 PM (QlFNX)

209 Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 06:47 PM

Oh honey, they're just going to wait til our kind die of old age and waltz right on in and take over.

And single payer is also a factor; there's a reason commies are pushing for that so hard. Once people get that, they will keep voting for the ones who provide it for them.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 07:09 PM (Y9+RI)

210 T.Rex also said something pretty stupid - actually somewhat incoherent, which may be better than coherently stupid - about Palestinians during the trip.

But - whatever, his substantive moves have been fine, which is what matters.

Given the context, it's pretty silly to pretend to be upset that the glass is 1/10,000th empty. There may be a gigantic insoluble contradiction at the heart of the administration's foreign policy, but even so the top personnel are churchillian compared to the last eight years of farce and disaster.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2017 07:09 PM (QDnY+)

211 Nood

Posted by: GOULD at May 26, 2017 07:09 PM (Hj4t4)

212 QEII made a hospital visit yesterday. Daily mail U.K. Had story pics.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2017 07:08 PM (QlFNX)Love the Queen! And that little baby Princess Charlotte somehow came out as a dead ringer for the old gal.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 07:10 PM (EgOr3)

213 Meanwhile, here in GA, Tossoff and Karen Handel are neck-and-neck.

Progs continue to send $$$ to that little juice boxer twerp who doesn't even live in the district.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 26, 2017 07:10 PM (PY9jH)

214
And single payer is also a factor; there's a reason commies are pushing for that so hard. Once people get that, they will keep voting for the ones who provide it for them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 07:09 PM

Repubs will jump on that as "the more effective" managers of the system.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 07:11 PM (IqV8l)

215 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2017 07:08 PM (QlFNX)

God bless her. I'd love to know what she really thinks about her country being taken over by these savages. I think maybe that's why she hasn't been picky about who William and Harry are dating/married. Probably figures it isn't going to matter in 30 years.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 07:12 PM (Y9+RI)

216 By the way, did you know that O.J. Simpson and John Walker Lindh had something in common when it came to parenting? Fascinating read:

https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-California-Cultural-Rumbles/dp/1416531033

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 26, 2017 06:52 PM (

Are you trying to depress me? It's working.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 26, 2017 06:57 PM (Ri/rl)

@ Curmudgeon and CaliGirl

Live in shoebox. Followed link, can't figure out what you're talking about. Seems to me, if those two have common items, then others also.

Could you explain ?

Posted by: dDan at May 26, 2017 07:12 PM (hwYmz)

217 Posted by: dagny at May 26, 2017 06:23 PM (xrSGs)

Father and son IIRC. Could be wrong. Something about them being estranged, or living apart or something and somehow hooked up.

Posted by: gracepc at May 26, 2017 07:13 PM (OU4q6)

218 Nood.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 26, 2017 07:13 PM (fHnbd)

219 201 Tricky Dick's other nickname was LBJ eh? "Hey, hey, LBJ...."

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 26, 2017 07:04 PM (d3wbb)

Actually Eisenhower was the first President to send US troops to Vietnam in 1955.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2017 07:14 PM (mpXpK)

220 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2017 07:11 PM (IqV8l)

Sadly true.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 07:14 PM (Y9+RI)

221 Weasel - I just don't see widespread or general festivities, though
"incidents" are surely plausible.

Segregation goes on every day, yet receives little attention. Whether it's people in CA moving out to get away from the toxic idiocies here, or people cutting the cable due to disgust with the info-tainment borg, or other things, there's a lot of self-segregation going on.

And Weasel - "the veneer of civility is much thinner" - dude, wasn't that guy banned during the heat of the campaign after a pissing match with ace? (ThinVeneerofCivility). Always liked that nic.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2017 07:14 PM (QDnY+)

222 They hate us and want us dead.

From the elite perspective, Muhammad and Malvo were doing The Good Work.

I've said before whose side I think they are really on, and I have never seen any reason to change my opinion. Rather the reverse, if anything; see several of today's posts.

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." John 8:44

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 26, 2017 07:15 PM (KGH7Z)

223
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2017 07:09 PM (Y9+RI)
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Yep.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 07:15 PM (Sfs6o)

224 It has worked. My long-game has worked. I moved into education, and started brainwashing the spawn of all you little Eichmanns. Then I got my little half-breed Raymond Shaw into the Senate, and into the WH way ahead-of-schedule. The courts are packed, a leftist deep-state is burrowed deep into every nook and cranny of the governement. Now all three branches are dominated by my leftist cohorts. The revolution is complete, only minor bloodshed needed.

Posted by: Bill Ayers at May 26, 2017 07:15 PM (DpOmP)

225
And Weasel - "the veneer of civility is much thinner" - dude, wasn't that guy banned during the heat of the campaign after a pissing match with ace? (ThinVeneerofCivility). Always liked that nic.
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Now that you mention it that nic does seem familiar but I don't recall any specifics of what they were posting.

Posted by: Weasel at May 26, 2017 07:18 PM (Sfs6o)

226 It is your fine friends in "Law Enforcement" who enable this swill. Nothing will change for the better until they and their families are burning in hell where they belong.

Posted by: Mark Matis at May 26, 2017 07:20 PM (LzG0h)

227 Gosh, the "can't say what I feel or I'll get banned" crowd, plus the smaller community actually wishing violence, has gotten bigger in recent days.

Good.

Posted by: trev006 at May 26, 2017 07:20 PM (DpTgw)

228 Judge Raymond Jackson - is that the same guy who throw out piracy charges against the Muslim Somali pirates?

Common thread?

Posted by: Batterup at May 26, 2017 07:21 PM (hes+/)

229 228
Judge Raymond Jackson - is that the same guy who throw out piracy charges against the Muslim Somali pirates?

Common thread?

Posted by: Batterup at May 26, 2017 07:21 PM (hes+/)

He is a racist black robe with black skin appointed by Billy Bob Clinton and confirmed by a Democrat Senate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 26, 2017 07:30 PM (mpXpK)

230 Same Judge - different Muslim defendant - Mostafa Ahmed Awwad got 11 years for espionage -tried to sell stolen design drawings for an aircraft carrier. Should have been death but got 11 years.

Posted by: Batterup at May 26, 2017 07:30 PM (hes+/)

231 On the first day of Ramadan my true love gave to me....

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 26, 2017 07:47 PM (1L9V9)

232 Murder is a sin which should not be forgiven. I never once in my entire life didn't think capital punishment was against the law or bible.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2017 07:47 PM (Ot7+c)

233 Just think....this is the same judiciary that will be deciding the constitutionality of laws related to child molestation and other severely deviant behavior laws. See the earlier thread about Decommio's top aide in NYC. There's a movement to normalize that s***.

Posted by: The Lonebadger at May 26, 2017 08:00 PM (5leUT)

234 231
On the first day of Ramadan my true love gave to me....

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 26, 2017 07:47 PM (1L9V9)
80 Coptic Christians.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2017 08:03 PM (EgOr3)

235 Same judge - Raymond Jackson - threw out Piracy charges against Somali's who attacked a US naval warship (USS Ashland) in 2010.

Posted by: aquaviva at May 26, 2017 08:59 PM (2Ytdj)

236 Judge for life. Congress approves. Screw you dirt people. You're nothing. Better off dead.

Posted by: RDG at May 26, 2017 09:11 PM (4Ee6Z)

237 There's a lot of real terrific Reform Stories about Islamist murderers, right?

Kinda hard to reform a stain on the wall, no?

Posted by: NukemHill at May 26, 2017 11:56 PM (ra7SF)

238 He gets parole and runs for congress?

Posted by: KentAllard at May 27, 2017 12:56 AM (TQw9b)

239 This judge IS the terrorist.

Make no mistake, he is doing more damage to America than Malmo ever did.

Posted by: Huckleberry Hound at May 27, 2017 07:42 PM (UsCnO)

240 Will Ryan & Co. impeach this judge?

Posted by: torabora at May 29, 2017 12:35 PM (7RJd4)

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