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British Security Services Were Warned Five Times About Salman Abedi Talking Up Suicide Bombing
Maybe it's time we focused less on "Muslims need to report their misbehaving members" and more on "Security services need to actually do something when citizens report likely terrorists."
I don't know that all of the people reporting Abedi were Muslim, but given that they were "friends" and I can't see Abedi trying too hard to integrate into broader British society, I imagine at least some were.The Manchester suicide bomber was repeatedly flagged to the authorities over his extremist views, but was not stopped by officers, it emerged Wednesday night. Counter Terrorism agencies were facing questions after it emerged Salman Abedi told friends that "being a suicide bomber was okay", prompting them to call the Government's anti-terrorism hotline. Sources suggest that authorities were informed of the danger posed by Abedi on at least five separate occasions in the five years prior to the attack on Monday night.I'm not sure all of these claims are true -- it could be pro-Islamist agitators making claims to exonerate the Libyan community in Manchester. But I gotta tell you, based on the past record, with so many "Known Wolves" being at perfect liberty to murder and maim, and the FBI seemingly intentionally permitting the Garland shooter to begin his attempt to assassinate people for putting on Free Speech demonstration, I am seriously beginning to wonder if our security services are actually in the business of protecting us rather than "community feelings." And meanwhile, the feds allowed known MS-13 members to enter the United States as "unaccompanied minor" border crossers, and they're now lost in the country.
... Two friends of Abedi also became so worried they separately telephoned the police counter-terrorism hotline five years ago and again last year. “They had been worried that ‘he was supporting terrorism’ and had expressed the view that ‘being a suicide bomber was ok’,” a source told the BBC. Akram Ramadan, 49, part of the close-knit Libyan community in south Manchester, said Abedi had been banned from Didsbury Mosque after he had confronted the Imam who was delivering an anti-extremist sermon. ... Mr Ramadan said he understood that Abedi had been placed on a "watch list" because the mosque reported him to the authorities for his extremist views. A well-placed source at Didsbury Mosque confirmed it had contacted the Home Office's Prevent anti-radicalisation programme as a result. A US official also briefed that members of Abedi's own family had contacted British police saying that he was "dangerous", but again the information does not appear to have been acted upon.
A number of Central American youths who were positively identified by border agents as MS-13 and Sureno 18 gang members were allowed to enter the country in July 2014 under Obama administration border surge policies, according to documents released today by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.). Johnson is seeking information from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) on the status of these cases and, most importantly, whether they were released from the HHS facilities to communities in the United States. The youths were initially held by the Border Patrol in Nogales, Ariz., and were later transferred to HHS-run facilities in Virginia, Washington, Texas, New York, and Oklahoma. The gang members were identified on July 5, 2014, after staff members at the Border Patrol facility saw MS-13 graffiti in the bathrooms. Officers documented 16 juveniles who admitted to gang membership... Despite the positive identification as gang members, the youths were transferred to low-security facilities around the country.... A week later, on July 11, Border Patrol agents apprehended two more UACs who were heard in their cells boasting about their gang affiliation and crimes to each other... These two were separated from the general population in the Border Patrol holding facility until "being placed". There is no further information available about the disposition of their cases, whether they were eventually placed in an HHS contract facility somewhere, whether they were released, whether they have completed their deportation proceedings, or what has happened to them.One thing to keep in mind about security services leaving known wolves to kill: I spoke to a source with close knowledge of terrorist surveillance practices, and she told me that even serious terrorist threats -- serious, like they know this guy is definitely a terrorist -- are followed something like three 8-hour shifts a week. When I heard this, I tried to clarify: "No, I don't mean the low-level threats, I mean the high level threats." "I mean the high level threats too," she said. "The low-level threats get much less surveillance." The problem, which surprised me, is just that there are so many high-level terrorist threats that there just aren't enough counter-terrorism surveillance personnel to follow them any more than a fraction of the time. So part of the problem is simple: We just have too many high-level terrorism threats living in America. (And Britain, of course.) They overwhelm security services with their sheer numbers. Maybe it's time to focus on that, the real problem, rather than lying to the public that we can "manage" terrorist threats in-country. We can't. I was flat-out told how thinly spread surveillance personnel are and how they have to do triage surveillance even on the highest level threats. Like, just an idea, maybe we could not admit known MS-13 gang members into our country when they illegally cross the border.
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I read that his own mosque reported him. So yeah, major fuck-up
Posted by: not the mama at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (EpAnP)
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See something, Do Nothing
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (XSEwK)
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We're never going to be able to do anything about it until its too late, which means the only smart move is to net let them settle here in the first place.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 02:14 PM (SCkw/)
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>>The problem, which surprised me, is just that there are so many high-level terrorist threats that there just aren't enough counter-terrorism surveillance personnel to follow them any more than a fraction of the time.
Ah, I had wondered if that was why known wolves weren't stopped.
Of course the obvious solution would be: stop allowing so damn many known wolves into the damn country so you have the time/manpower to monitor them effectively. Gah!
Ah, I had wondered if that was why known wolves weren't stopped.
Of course the obvious solution would be: stop allowing so damn many known wolves into the damn country so you have the time/manpower to monitor them effectively. Gah!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (NOIQH)
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What?
Posted by: TSA Agent anally probing grandmother with a walker at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (QtQaN)
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Sounds like the British Muslims tried to take Donald Trump's advice, "DRIVE THEM OUT!"
The British government drove them back.
The British government drove them back.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (XSEwK)
Posted by: zombie at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (DQ4Fv)
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>>There's the ferry back to Calais: Buh-bye.
That's my solution to Britain's Muslim problem.
They need to be stopping them - and the freakin' NGO's who are assisting them - from boating in from N Africa.
That's my solution to Britain's Muslim problem.
They need to be stopping them - and the freakin' NGO's who are assisting them - from boating in from N Africa.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 02:17 PM (NOIQH)
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Pretty sure it's racist to focus on the people who tend to be the most 'splodey.
Now ma'am, if you'll just wheel your elderly mother's wheelchair over behind this screen... Thanks. Yes, right there is fine. No ma'am, it shouldn't take more than 30 minutes. Ma'am, don't make me arrest you. This examination is critical for the other passenger's safety.
Now ma'am, if you'll just wheel your elderly mother's wheelchair over behind this screen... Thanks. Yes, right there is fine. No ma'am, it shouldn't take more than 30 minutes. Ma'am, don't make me arrest you. This examination is critical for the other passenger's safety.
Posted by: Chigger Fleas at May 25, 2017 02:17 PM (fD1ST)
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Wait, so you mean all those years of us ("us" as in the collective West) being so scared of being called racist that we sat back and let globalists import the Third World is going to have consequences beyond more diverse culinary options?
Say it ain't so!
Say it ain't so!
Posted by: Danny Donkey at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (KINzv)
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For a police action, you follow suspects around and attempt to get evidence to arrest them.
For a military action, you eliminate enemy agents as soon as you are fairly sure that is what they are. You don't wait for them to set off a bomb or engage in a terror attack first.
The suspected MS-13 members should have been shot while crossing the boarder.
The jihadi in Manchester is a little harder as he is a citizen of Britain, though one allied with a foreign power.
For a military action, you eliminate enemy agents as soon as you are fairly sure that is what they are. You don't wait for them to set off a bomb or engage in a terror attack first.
The suspected MS-13 members should have been shot while crossing the boarder.
The jihadi in Manchester is a little harder as he is a citizen of Britain, though one allied with a foreign power.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (aZq03)
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The left wining west has a suicide wish.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (5y11N)
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You see? Government isn't getting the RESOURCES it needs because rich, capitalist baddies won't pay their fair share!
Posted by: Leftist spin and hurricane machine at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (QtQaN)
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As does the 4th circuit, the 9th circuit, and all left wingers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (5y11N)
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Hum,
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (6Ll1u)
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Well I am sure the answer is to pour billions of dollars more into black projects so they can spy on political opponents everybody the high level threats.
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (LxBcy)
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Maybe the Conservative May Government will fall.
And be replaced by a Corbin Labor Government that will bring in a few Hundred Thousand more more refugees and Five or Ten Thousand Islamic Terrorists.
Wouldn't that be a trip?
And be replaced by a Corbin Labor Government that will bring in a few Hundred Thousand more more refugees and Five or Ten Thousand Islamic Terrorists.
Wouldn't that be a trip?
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (XSEwK)
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Am I just childish or shouldn't we be shooting terrorists? I mean, if we know they're terrorists, put a bullet in them.
Selective assassination as a policy.
Selective assassination as a policy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:19 PM (3OIiX)
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British authorities were probably too busy punishing the H8rz who made those racist warnings...
Posted by: The Doubleplusungood Hat at May 25, 2017 02:20 PM (rUIbB)
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1 I read that his own mosque reported him. So yeah, major fuck-up
Posted by: not the mama at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (EpAnP)
Ha. If you can't even keep it under wraps enough for the radical Muslims to notice and report you to the authorities, you're definitely doing it wrong.
Posted by: not the mama at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (EpAnP)
Ha. If you can't even keep it under wraps enough for the radical Muslims to notice and report you to the authorities, you're definitely doing it wrong.
Posted by: Chigger Fleas at May 25, 2017 02:20 PM (fD1ST)
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I'm certain the security services did do something. I bet they arrested the reporting citizens for racism and Islamophobia.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 02:20 PM (hLRSq)
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I can understand why no one followed up on the calls after watching the coverage of Manchester- you might get arrested for bad think! I am just surprised these people had the balls to make the calls in the first place- the fact that they were probably Islamic probably explains it- they are the only ones insulated against charges of Islamophobia.
*And it pisses me off t no end that spell check recognizes Islamophobia*
*And it pisses me off t no end that spell check recognizes Islamophobia*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2017 02:20 PM (ycWCI)
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Let he among us who hasn't threatened to bomb a few major public buildings four or five times cast the first stone.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at May 25, 2017 02:21 PM (I6RKl)
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We also have a problem of motivation here.
No, not the MS-13 members or jihadis, but of the governments that are supposed to keep us safe from them.
Let's suppose the government in the US did a serious review of terrorists and gang bangers in the US and expelled virtually all of them. Crime would drop dramatically and therefore so would the budgets of those group "protecting us" from them.
If on the other hand they are a little lax in their work their budgets will go up and constantly as every new attack brings calls for spending more money.
Now one answer to this is the routine firing and shaming for incompetence...but the government doesn't fire people for incompetence any more.
Which leaves me with the suggestion we start over. Create a whole new FBI, INS, etc and don't allow the current deadwood to join the new organization...
No, not the MS-13 members or jihadis, but of the governments that are supposed to keep us safe from them.
Let's suppose the government in the US did a serious review of terrorists and gang bangers in the US and expelled virtually all of them. Crime would drop dramatically and therefore so would the budgets of those group "protecting us" from them.
If on the other hand they are a little lax in their work their budgets will go up and constantly as every new attack brings calls for spending more money.
Now one answer to this is the routine firing and shaming for incompetence...but the government doesn't fire people for incompetence any more.
Which leaves me with the suggestion we start over. Create a whole new FBI, INS, etc and don't allow the current deadwood to join the new organization...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:22 PM (aZq03)
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Am I just childish or shouldn't we be shooting terrorists? I mean, if we know they're terrorists, put a bullet in them.
Selective assassination as a policy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
That's the answer no one likes, but at some point will become reality.
Selective assassination as a policy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
That's the answer no one likes, but at some point will become reality.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:23 PM (4BGeF)
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* types and delete*
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:23 PM (6Ll1u)
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I think a lot of tis may be CYA by the mosque and "Libya community",but if they did narc on him and nothing was done...
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 02:23 PM (rmVvL)
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Seems pretty obvious that at least part of the goal of Obama allowing all these jihadis and MS-13 gang-bangers, as well as the random criminal scum, was to justify for more surveillance, more police state action.
Well, justify it officially happening - now that we've gotten confirmation he and his NSA were running roughshod over laws regarding illegal surveillance.
The immigrant stuff is Fast and Furious 2.0.
Well, justify it officially happening - now that we've gotten confirmation he and his NSA were running roughshod over laws regarding illegal surveillance.
The immigrant stuff is Fast and Furious 2.0.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 02:23 PM (NOIQH)
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British Security Services Were Warned Five Times About Salman Abedi Talking Up Suicide Bombing
Was warning them considered an act of Islamaphobia?
Was warning them considered an act of Islamaphobia?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:24 PM (493sH)
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Just another reminder why I don't want to give the Deep State more tools to spy on American citizens.
It's only used for nefarious political games.
Show me all the terrorists they've "caught" data logging every single American's cell phone.
It's only used for nefarious political games.
Show me all the terrorists they've "caught" data logging every single American's cell phone.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 02:24 PM (SCkw/)
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I keep thinking about 8 year old girls shredded into grisly pieces by nail bombs.
And wondering how the Brits do not.
And wondering how the Brits do not.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:24 PM (C52a9)
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So the sixth time would have been the charm?
Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 02:24 PM (UmSfZ)
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25 Yes,the problem is just WHO they would decide is a threat that needs to be killed.
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (rmVvL)
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The nations of the Middle East haven't been properly incentivized to clean their own nests. America has the means but not the will to incentivize them, unfortunately.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (Bdeb0)
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It seems to me, if you can't control more than 5 kids at a time in your bodega, you don't allow more than that.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (DSFcs)
Posted by: nip at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (vOea4)
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This isn't a fuckup. This is deliberate. Other Muslims practically handed this guy over to alleged "white" authority, and then nothing happened. Small wonder they don't trust us.
The UK has mustered more outrage over the US leaking pictures of exploded bombs, than it has to someone murdering schoolgirls at a concert. Dissolve their intelligence agencies and government, start over.
The UK has mustered more outrage over the US leaking pictures of exploded bombs, than it has to someone murdering schoolgirls at a concert. Dissolve their intelligence agencies and government, start over.
Posted by: trev006 at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (OOdmd)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (U6f54)
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I'm worried about myself. Because, I hate everyone on the left for this. My friends on the left, I hate this IN them and try not to hate THEM for it.
This is worrying. But I'm talking about really hating those who don't care if we die. They figure statistically it won't be them, so it's okay. And they keep bleating to let in more, more, more - and to not say a word that is racist, islamophobic, etc.
I mean, my hate for this is running deep and cold.
This is worrying. But I'm talking about really hating those who don't care if we die. They figure statistically it won't be them, so it's okay. And they keep bleating to let in more, more, more - and to not say a word that is racist, islamophobic, etc.
I mean, my hate for this is running deep and cold.
Posted by: Alana at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (WFVVX)
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Who are you?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (6Ll1u)
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All the more reason why the 2A is more important now than ever.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (4df7R)
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But Russia! Fascists! Men! White Privledge! Trump! The Alt-Right! Two Scoops!
YOU!
BROKE!
MUH!
GLASSES!
YOU!
BROKE!
MUH!
GLASSES!
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (2qHjF)
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The fourth circuit has gone hard left.
Posted by: Czar Peter at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (gMQzW)
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All the more reason why the 2A is more important now than ever.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (4df7R)
AND that national reciprocity for CCW is needed.
All the more reason why the 2A is more important now than ever.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at May 25, 2017 02:26 PM (4df7R)
AND that national reciprocity for CCW is needed.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (jxbfJ)
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Am I just childish or shouldn't we be shooting terrorists? I mean, if we know they're terrorists, put a bullet in them.
Selective assassination as a policy.
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Dude, we cannot even get the whiny bleeding hearts to keep them out. You want to kill them? We don't do that even after they are convicted of killing people.
And if it was me, the selectees would not be the muslims. They are being permitted, and even encouraged to be Islamic Fanatics and Islamic Terrorists by our nation's intelligentsia and their policies. Everything from academia to welfare policy.
I will believe it when the "enlightened" Washington DC crowd STFD and STFU.
Selective assassination as a policy.
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Dude, we cannot even get the whiny bleeding hearts to keep them out. You want to kill them? We don't do that even after they are convicted of killing people.
And if it was me, the selectees would not be the muslims. They are being permitted, and even encouraged to be Islamic Fanatics and Islamic Terrorists by our nation's intelligentsia and their policies. Everything from academia to welfare policy.
I will believe it when the "enlightened" Washington DC crowd STFD and STFU.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (XSEwK)
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Selective assassination as a policy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
My thoughts exactly. So the problem is too many security threats? Give me a silencer, 10 names and addresses, and legal carte blanche to act, and by the end of the week there will be 10 less security threats. No trials or detentions to worry about.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
My thoughts exactly. So the problem is too many security threats? Give me a silencer, 10 names and addresses, and legal carte blanche to act, and by the end of the week there will be 10 less security threats. No trials or detentions to worry about.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (d6ag0)
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31 I keep thinking about 8 year old girls shredded into grisly pieces by nail bombs.
And wondering how the Brits do not.
Hey, what about us
And wondering how the Brits do not.
Hey, what about us
Posted by: 4th circuit and 9th circuit court of appeals... at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (O2RFr)
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I was in the UK earlier this year. This was my observation:
I spent most of my time in rural areas and small towns. And in these areas, Muslims are barely a presence at all. You hardly ever see them, or any evidence of them.
But whenever I went to a big city -- that's where the problems begin.
But it's not all over every big city -- there is an extreme amount of segregation and ghetto-fication. For example, when you pull into Birmingham on the train, you see the minarets of huge mosques dotting various parts of the cityscape. But when you debark at city center, there's no immediate evidence of the mosques, which are actually in outlying neighborhoods, and the population in the urban center is 90% British and only, at most, 10% niqab-wearing Muslim wives pushing baby carriages. But if you (as I did once) make your way to the Muslim part of Birmingham -- holy moly, it suddenly is reversed, and it's 90% Muslim, and few native Brits in sight. And this Muslim ghetto is HUGE, but still tightly segregated from the rest of the city.
So it's possible for the average person to visit England and, if you plan your trip well, never encounter "Muslim Britain" at all. Small towns, upscale areas, touristy sites -- very little evidence of "the problem." But what happens is that the terrorists emerge from these Islamicized slums -- which are quite large, if you know where to find them -- to strike at the heart of "white Britain."
I spent most of my time in rural areas and small towns. And in these areas, Muslims are barely a presence at all. You hardly ever see them, or any evidence of them.
But whenever I went to a big city -- that's where the problems begin.
But it's not all over every big city -- there is an extreme amount of segregation and ghetto-fication. For example, when you pull into Birmingham on the train, you see the minarets of huge mosques dotting various parts of the cityscape. But when you debark at city center, there's no immediate evidence of the mosques, which are actually in outlying neighborhoods, and the population in the urban center is 90% British and only, at most, 10% niqab-wearing Muslim wives pushing baby carriages. But if you (as I did once) make your way to the Muslim part of Birmingham -- holy moly, it suddenly is reversed, and it's 90% Muslim, and few native Brits in sight. And this Muslim ghetto is HUGE, but still tightly segregated from the rest of the city.
So it's possible for the average person to visit England and, if you plan your trip well, never encounter "Muslim Britain" at all. Small towns, upscale areas, touristy sites -- very little evidence of "the problem." But what happens is that the terrorists emerge from these Islamicized slums -- which are quite large, if you know where to find them -- to strike at the heart of "white Britain."
Posted by: zombie at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (DQ4Fv)
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I would also like to remind of the INCREASED muz immigration after 9-11.
Not curtail, but increase.
But I'm a conspiracy nut. So there is that.
Not curtail, but increase.
But I'm a conspiracy nut. So there is that.
Posted by: nip at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (vOea4)
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If only we could _____ the _____ before they _____ the everliving ___ out of innocent people.
New improved AoS comment.
If only we could _____ the _____ before they _____ the everliving ___ out of innocent people.
New improved AoS comment.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (HTdUD)
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I mean, I think of my own girls. And I know those on the left absolutely, positively, Do. Not. Care.
Posted by: Alana at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (WFVVX)
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But they totally would have done something after the sixth warning.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (vg8iE)
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@Mortimer
They think about it, but redirect the fear and guilt onto someone else. Onto the Conservative party or onto 'haters'.
You can lie to yourself pretty easily when everything in your society helps you do so.
They think about it, but redirect the fear and guilt onto someone else. Onto the Conservative party or onto 'haters'.
You can lie to yourself pretty easily when everything in your society helps you do so.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (3OIiX)
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It's only used for nefarious political games.
Show me all the terrorists they've "caught" data logging every single American's cell phone.
Posted by: Maritime
The larger threat to the Permanent Government (known by some as The Deep State) are those citizens, those people that live here, that were born here, that are not happy with what the Government is doing.
Some random killin' is just gonna happen, and often enough, it can be blamed on Gun Nuts, and that 2nd Amendment. And misunderstood feelings.
But they really REALLY want to watch the real troublemakers.
Like you.....and you .... and YOU, Ace.
Show me all the terrorists they've "caught" data logging every single American's cell phone.
Posted by: Maritime
The larger threat to the Permanent Government (known by some as The Deep State) are those citizens, those people that live here, that were born here, that are not happy with what the Government is doing.
Some random killin' is just gonna happen, and often enough, it can be blamed on Gun Nuts, and that 2nd Amendment. And misunderstood feelings.
But they really REALLY want to watch the real troublemakers.
Like you.....and you .... and YOU, Ace.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (493sH)
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I mean, if we know they're terrorists, put a bullet in them.
***
Any foreign citizens in the US with ties to ISIS, AQ, etc should be getting a hanging/firing squad.
As the closest example if roving groups of Germans in 1941 were murdering random Americans how would they have been treated? When we captured industrial saboteurs, who hadn't actually done anything yet, we executed them.
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Any foreign citizens in the US with ties to ISIS, AQ, etc should be getting a hanging/firing squad.
As the closest example if roving groups of Germans in 1941 were murdering random Americans how would they have been treated? When we captured industrial saboteurs, who hadn't actually done anything yet, we executed them.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (aZq03)
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>>ust another reminder why I don't want to give the Deep State more tools to spy on American citizens.
It's only used for nefarious political games.
Yup. Obama's team used FISA court to monitor Trump and others.
FISA court is only supposed to be used for serious, imminent terror threats.
And we still don;t know the extent of all of Obama's other illegal surveillance activity, but it's a safe bet he was illegally using all the terror monitoring capabilities on his political enemies, not jihadis.
It's only used for nefarious political games.
Yup. Obama's team used FISA court to monitor Trump and others.
FISA court is only supposed to be used for serious, imminent terror threats.
And we still don;t know the extent of all of Obama's other illegal surveillance activity, but it's a safe bet he was illegally using all the terror monitoring capabilities on his political enemies, not jihadis.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NOIQH)
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The nations of the Middle East haven't been properly incentivized to
clean their own nests. America has the means but not the will to
incentivize them, unfortunately.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (Bdeb0)
If we won't clean our own nest, how could we ever clean/incentivize/convince other nations to?
The nations of the Middle East haven't been properly incentivized to
clean their own nests. America has the means but not the will to
incentivize them, unfortunately.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (Bdeb0)
If we won't clean our own nest, how could we ever clean/incentivize/convince other nations to?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (jxbfJ)
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There seems to be a pattern here.
Intel knows all about them, they take trips to mideast countries, then they come back to kill a whole lotta people.
00-2-LATE... tanks and troops are called in, and then wagons are circled.
Oh ....and they call for more power to invade everyones privacy so they can protect them.
Yup..a pattern !
Intel knows all about them, they take trips to mideast countries, then they come back to kill a whole lotta people.
00-2-LATE... tanks and troops are called in, and then wagons are circled.
Oh ....and they call for more power to invade everyones privacy so they can protect them.
Yup..a pattern !
Posted by: Kerri at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (cbC2p)
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http://tinyurl.com/md5g92s
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
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The solution to all this is not for the feint of heart....
Posted by: Curtis LeMay at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (DpOmP)
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2 See something, Do Nothing
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (XSEwK)
Say something, get investigated for Hate Speech.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (XSEwK)
Say something, get investigated for Hate Speech.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (luj3F)
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I do wonder if the definition of high-level threat is a bit too broad - if there are so many that we literally can't even monitor all of them, maybe we need to be a bit more granular with the selection process?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (oZ6kz)
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So it's possible for the average person to visit England and, if you plan your trip well, never encounter "Muslim Britain" at all.
Unless of course they decide to blow you up...
So it's possible for the average person to visit England and, if you plan your trip well, never encounter "Muslim Britain" at all.
Unless of course they decide to blow you up...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (O2RFr)
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Maybe there are so many Islamic Radials, the terrorists just aren't that high on the list.
Posted by: The Question at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (7wyDO)
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@Tom Servo
Cut. Jib.
Cut. Jib.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:30 PM (3OIiX)
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http://tinyurl.com/md5g92s
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
The clock is striking 13 in Airstrip One
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
The clock is striking 13 in Airstrip One
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:30 PM (493sH)
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"Because, I hate everyone on the left for this. My friends on the left..."
I have no friends on the left. And neither do you, if you'll just be honest with yourself. You just have some hangers-on who think they can get something from you that you're comfortable with. Dump them and find better. You know any relationship with them is going to end badly, so why prolong the wondering? End it now, by your choice, not theirs.
I have no friends on the left. And neither do you, if you'll just be honest with yourself. You just have some hangers-on who think they can get something from you that you're comfortable with. Dump them and find better. You know any relationship with them is going to end badly, so why prolong the wondering? End it now, by your choice, not theirs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2017 02:30 PM (d6ag0)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 25, 2017 02:30 PM (fceHP)
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I wanna congratulate the Brits for their awesome commitment to diversity.
Posted by: jihadi at May 25, 2017 02:31 PM (I64i9)
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I'm about tired of trying to figure out the secret of the Gordian Knot that is Islam and find its hidden ends and am ready to just pull out a sword and cut through the whole damn thing.
Posted by: Flying Allende Brothers at May 25, 2017 02:31 PM (nFwvY)
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Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
I heard her say many times that outside of London in the Countryside the folks aren't at all keen on the influx of "refugees." Kind of like our fly over Country...
I heard her say many times that outside of London in the Countryside the folks aren't at all keen on the influx of "refugees." Kind of like our fly over Country...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:31 PM (O2RFr)
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"Because, I hate everyone on the left for this. My friends on the left..."
I have no friends on the left.
And neither do you, if you'll just be honest with yourself.
Amen.
I have no friends on the left.
And neither do you, if you'll just be honest with yourself.
Amen.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:31 PM (4BGeF)
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Eventually it will just be easier to surveil potential victims of terrorism (maybe just lock them up).
Posted by: jihadi at May 25, 2017 02:32 PM (I64i9)
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71 I'm about tired of trying to figure out the secret of the Gordian Knot that is Islam and find its hidden ends and am ready to just pull out a sword and cut through the whole damn thing.
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Much like peace in the Middle East, it's more about the "process" rather than actual action or results.
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Much like peace in the Middle East, it's more about the "process" rather than actual action or results.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 02:32 PM (vg8iE)
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Maybe we SHOULD send the bust of Churchill back to them.
Posted by: Chigger Fleas at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (fD1ST)
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33 25 Yes,the problem is just WHO they would decide is a threat that needs to be killed.
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (rmVvL)
Returning vets, pro-lifers, NRA members, anyone who supports the Constitution, and anyone who mistrusts government power. They're the real threats you know. Homeland Security said so.
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 02:25 PM (rmVvL)
Returning vets, pro-lifers, NRA members, anyone who supports the Constitution, and anyone who mistrusts government power. They're the real threats you know. Homeland Security said so.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (0mRoj)
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I have no friends on the left.
A while back the left went from;
Live and let live...but give me some of your money!
to
YOU WILL OBEY ME and maybe I'll let you keep some of your money....if I am feeling generous.
A while back the left went from;
Live and let live...but give me some of your money!
to
YOU WILL OBEY ME and maybe I'll let you keep some of your money....if I am feeling generous.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (aZq03)
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My solution is declare Islam a political movement of global conquest and ban it. Start the deportations of every Iman and every adherent and tear down the mosques and confiscate the property. Deport everybody to Muslim countries and/or kill a bunch of them.
Where do I get these crazy ideas? From Muslim treatment of Jews and Christians.
Where do I get these crazy ideas? From Muslim treatment of Jews and Christians.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (h65ce)
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Meanwhile, the performer herself, little miss Burrito Grande, previously known for her acidic comments saying "I hate America, I hate Americans," has come discreetly scuttling back from the dangerous UK to the safety of America.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (ujwCG)
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Arti Sidebar
NO SAFE SPACES
A new film by Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager reveals the most dangerous place in America for ideas.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/no-safe-spaces-college-university#/
Arti Sidebar
NO SAFE SPACES
A new film by Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager reveals the most dangerous place in America for ideas.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/no-safe-spaces-college-university#/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:34 PM (O2RFr)
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>>>If on the other hand they are a little lax in their work their budgets will go up and constantly as every new attack brings calls for spending more money.
:::shifty eyes:::
They control you through YOUR FILLINGS, man!!
:::shifty eyes:::
They control you through YOUR FILLINGS, man!!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 25, 2017 02:34 PM (K1Wp+)
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It's like this constant fear of a 'backlash' against Muslims.
Where, anywhere...in the US or Europe, are Muslims being beaten, chased or burned out?
The Philippines? Some parts of Africa?
We've had 50+ years of estrogen in the water. We're mostly gay frogs at this point as a culture.
Where, anywhere...in the US or Europe, are Muslims being beaten, chased or burned out?
The Philippines? Some parts of Africa?
We've had 50+ years of estrogen in the water. We're mostly gay frogs at this point as a culture.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:34 PM (3OIiX)
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I have friends on the left and I'm quite honest about this. They are just not hard left. The Democratic Party belonged to nine years ago doesn't exist anymore, and the difference is that my friends are practicing Christians.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 02:34 PM (qES5k)
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Why, they can't possibly be terrorists, they're muslims. Everyone knows that the religion of peace.
Posted by: MaGoose at May 25, 2017 02:34 PM (0dmP2)
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>>If we won't clean our own nest, how could we ever clean/incentivize/convince other nations to? Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (jxbfJ)
1. Borders closed.
2. Profiling/deporting
3. Select "hostage cities" in the Middle East
4. Buck Turgidson
5. Oil
6. Profit
1. Borders closed.
2. Profiling/deporting
3. Select "hostage cities" in the Middle East
4. Buck Turgidson
5. Oil
6. Profit
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:34 PM (Bdeb0)
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"Because, I hate everyone on the left for this. My friends on the left..."
I have no friends on the left.
And neither do you, if you'll just be honest with yourself.
Truer words never spoken. If you have family on the left prepare yourself. They are, given a long enough time-line, going to ____ you in the ___.
I have no friends on the left.
And neither do you, if you'll just be honest with yourself.
Truer words never spoken. If you have family on the left prepare yourself. They are, given a long enough time-line, going to ____ you in the ___.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 02:35 PM (HTdUD)
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Like Nigel Farage was saying on Tucker last night.
Take their passports. A great filter.
They fly to Syria? Upon their return, take their passports.
One simple thing that could be done.
Like Nigel Farage was saying on Tucker last night.
Take their passports. A great filter.
They fly to Syria? Upon their return, take their passports.
One simple thing that could be done.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 25, 2017 02:35 PM (fceHP)
90
80
Meanwhile, the performer herself, little miss Burrito Grande, previously
known for her acidic comments saying "I hate America, I hate
Americans," has come discreetly scuttling back from the dangerous UK to
the safety of America.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (ujwCG)
Once again, our security agencies have failed us. Should have denied her re-entry.
Meanwhile, the performer herself, little miss Burrito Grande, previously
known for her acidic comments saying "I hate America, I hate
Americans," has come discreetly scuttling back from the dangerous UK to
the safety of America.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (ujwCG)
Once again, our security agencies have failed us. Should have denied her re-entry.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 02:36 PM (jxbfJ)
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Like Nigel Farage was saying on Tucker last night.
Take their passports. A great filter.
Exactly. This guy went to Libya numerous times... hello, not exactly a Vacay paradise..
Take their passports. A great filter.
Exactly. This guy went to Libya numerous times... hello, not exactly a Vacay paradise..
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:36 PM (O2RFr)
92
The interests of the governments of the Western nations no longer align with the interests of the citizens of the Western nations.
Any power we give them will be turned on us...but they will also take powers of their own volition as well so simple libertarianism is not an answer.
The media has been co opted into the governing class.
The business elite has been co opted into the governing class.
Both parties have been co opted into the governing class.
The religious leadership is being co opted into the governing class.
And right now, with their antics against Trump, the governing class is putting a stake in the ground that they are above elections.
Any power we give them will be turned on us...but they will also take powers of their own volition as well so simple libertarianism is not an answer.
The media has been co opted into the governing class.
The business elite has been co opted into the governing class.
Both parties have been co opted into the governing class.
The religious leadership is being co opted into the governing class.
And right now, with their antics against Trump, the governing class is putting a stake in the ground that they are above elections.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (aZq03)
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That the FBI may have allowed the Garland shooting to progress as far as it did terrifies me. Hell, it terrifies me that I find it plausible this happened.
I saw a story that a woman and her daughter who were at the Ariana Grande concert saw a woman with a back pack acting very suspiciously and they went to Security a few times and were lectured to about how they were racist.
Then boom.
Now, maybe that's not true, maybe it was someone who was just fidgety, maybe it's people projecting outcome unto prior actions. But if it's true, then why the hell would anyone ever say something? If you do, you'll just be pilloried as a racist and everything will still blow up.
I saw a story that a woman and her daughter who were at the Ariana Grande concert saw a woman with a back pack acting very suspiciously and they went to Security a few times and were lectured to about how they were racist.
Then boom.
Now, maybe that's not true, maybe it was someone who was just fidgety, maybe it's people projecting outcome unto prior actions. But if it's true, then why the hell would anyone ever say something? If you do, you'll just be pilloried as a racist and everything will still blow up.
Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
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Come on people... just give in... there's nothing wrong with sucking a moslem man's cock...
Posted by: Barry Soetoro at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (DpOmP)
95
There seems to be a pattern here.
Intel knows all about them, they take trips to mideast countries, then they come back to kill a whole lotta people.
00-2-LATE... tanks and troops are called in, and then wagons are circled.
Oh ....and they call for more power to invade everyones privacy so they can protect them.
Yup..a pattern !
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I fail to understand how they can be refugees fleeing Somalia and yet feel perfectly safe returning to visit Somalia multiple times. In an rd government, they would be given a stipend and sent back home. Because obviously, they are the kind of people Somalia needs if it going to improve.
Ditto the Chechnyans like the Tsarnevs.
Intel knows all about them, they take trips to mideast countries, then they come back to kill a whole lotta people.
00-2-LATE... tanks and troops are called in, and then wagons are circled.
Oh ....and they call for more power to invade everyones privacy so they can protect them.
Yup..a pattern !
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I fail to understand how they can be refugees fleeing Somalia and yet feel perfectly safe returning to visit Somalia multiple times. In an rd government, they would be given a stipend and sent back home. Because obviously, they are the kind of people Somalia needs if it going to improve.
Ditto the Chechnyans like the Tsarnevs.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (XSEwK)
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89 Ninth Circuit:We find this unconstitutional
Fourth Circuit:We concur
Fourth Circuit:We concur
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (rmVvL)
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We've had 50+ years of estrogen in the water. We're mostly gay frogs at this point as a culture.
-
So General Jack D. Ripper was right.
-
So General Jack D. Ripper was right.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (Nwg0u)
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60 http://tinyurl.com/md5g92s
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
If Islam cannot be criticized then the U.K. is already living under Sharia.
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
If Islam cannot be criticized then the U.K. is already living under Sharia.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)
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If Islam cannot be criticized then the U.K. is already living under Sharia.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)
In essence.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)
In essence.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 02:39 PM (0mRoj)
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Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:34 PM (O2RFr)
Some people believe it's not possible not to talk about politics, when it really is. I drove 300 miles with a clergywoman and spent three days with her. We never talked about Trump or politics really except about Islamic extremism-(She's very upset by it )although when we got back to her home she made a face at a picture of Trump in a yarmulke (sp?) before the Wailing Wall and I knew she hadn't voted for Trump.
Some people believe it's not possible not to talk about politics, when it really is. I drove 300 miles with a clergywoman and spent three days with her. We never talked about Trump or politics really except about Islamic extremism-(She's very upset by it )although when we got back to her home she made a face at a picture of Trump in a yarmulke (sp?) before the Wailing Wall and I knew she hadn't voted for Trump.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 02:39 PM (qES5k)
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We've had 50+ years of estrogen in the water. We're mostly gay frogs at this point as a culture.
-
So General Jack D. Ripper was right.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (Nwg0u)
Dunno. Going to buy water filters just in case.
God, we live in a world where Alex Jones makes more sense than the BBC.
And people wonder why I carry a gun.
-
So General Jack D. Ripper was right.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (Nwg0u)
Dunno. Going to buy water filters just in case.
God, we live in a world where Alex Jones makes more sense than the BBC.
And people wonder why I carry a gun.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:39 PM (3OIiX)
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I fail to understand how they can be refugees fleeing Somalia and yet feel perfectly safe returning to visit Somalia multiple times.
In an rd government, they would be given a stipend and sent back home.
In an rb government, they would be HALO'ed back home.
Sans chute.
In an rd government, they would be given a stipend and sent back home.
In an rb government, they would be HALO'ed back home.
Sans chute.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:39 PM (4BGeF)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 25, 2017 02:40 PM (K1Wp+)
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>>Now, maybe that's not true, maybe it was someone
who was just fidgety, maybe it's people projecting outcome unto prior
actions. But if it's true, then why the hell would anyone ever say
something? If you do, you'll just be pilloried as a racist and
everything will still blow up. Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Everything will still blow up, anyway, everywhere, forever.
Yes, I'd like another beer, please.
who was just fidgety, maybe it's people projecting outcome unto prior
actions. But if it's true, then why the hell would anyone ever say
something? If you do, you'll just be pilloried as a racist and
everything will still blow up. Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 25, 2017 02:37 PM (mf5HN)
Everything will still blow up, anyway, everywhere, forever.
Yes, I'd like another beer, please.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:40 PM (Bdeb0)
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It is the exact same mentality they had with the Rotherham children being targeted. The "security services", cops, bureaucrats, politicals, etc do NOT care. They know most or all of the victims will be trash, lessors, nobodies thus they don't give a hoot. Keeping the myth of multi-culti is more important and that is what the politicos want. Report any of this scum and get shamed for being a racist and bigot.
Posted by: Lester at May 25, 2017 02:40 PM (LfJIn)
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And meanwhile, the feds allowed known MS-13 members to enter the United States as "unaccompanied minor" border crossers, and they're now lost in the country.
Yet another criminal indictment waiting for Barky ... but we knew that back when he was doing this ...
Yet another criminal indictment waiting for Barky ... but we knew that back when he was doing this ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 25, 2017 02:40 PM (zc3Db)
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That the FBI may have allowed the Garland shooting to progress as far as it did terrifies me
***
Have we gotten an official answer on that? The FBI knew what the jihadis were going to do and did nothing to stop them...
Was it "a screw up"?
Or is there an actual claimed reason they allowed it to happen?
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Have we gotten an official answer on that? The FBI knew what the jihadis were going to do and did nothing to stop them...
Was it "a screw up"?
Or is there an actual claimed reason they allowed it to happen?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (aZq03)
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And they're pissed at us for disclosing details of the bombing?
Fuck them. If they had their heads out of their asses this wouldn't have happened.
Not that our security forces are any better. See, e.g., the Tsarnaevs.
Fuck them. If they had their heads out of their asses this wouldn't have happened.
Not that our security forces are any better. See, e.g., the Tsarnaevs.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (SRKgf)
109
NoNe of my friends wonder why I carry. They all carry too.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (h65ce)
110
You can only talk politics with someone who's willing to listen about politics.
Most people are hard in their positions. True, liberal, open minds are rare. Maybe they've always been rare. But that isn't the goal anymore.
The goal is to be the 'right' kind of person, to be 'tolerant', and 'not hateful'.
You can cover a multitude of evils under the cloak of being nice.
Most people are hard in their positions. True, liberal, open minds are rare. Maybe they've always been rare. But that isn't the goal anymore.
The goal is to be the 'right' kind of person, to be 'tolerant', and 'not hateful'.
You can cover a multitude of evils under the cloak of being nice.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (3OIiX)
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Ironically, after the Manchester bombing once again vividly illustrates the problem, the Fourth Circuit rules we can't stop potential terrorist non-citizens from countries with known terrorist problems because to do so would have the US establish a religion.
On a quick skim, 4th Circuit based its ruling solely on Trump's campaign statements, that his EOs violated the Establishment Clause, and weak claims for standing for the named plaintiffs.
If the Nazis had declared themselves a kind of Pagan religion, we'd never have been able to fight them, let alone beat them, per this reasoning.
When the 9th Circuit rules, paging SCOTUS.
On a quick skim, 4th Circuit based its ruling solely on Trump's campaign statements, that his EOs violated the Establishment Clause, and weak claims for standing for the named plaintiffs.
If the Nazis had declared themselves a kind of Pagan religion, we'd never have been able to fight them, let alone beat them, per this reasoning.
When the 9th Circuit rules, paging SCOTUS.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (+7/1f)
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Not that our security forces are any better. See, e.g., the Tsarnaevs.
It's not like Russia warned us about them but.... RUSSIA!
It's not like Russia warned us about them but.... RUSSIA!
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (O2RFr)
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I think a simple little test would reveal the security level of an individual...
Did Barack Obama, during his term in office, bomb the shit out of your middle east country? Assassinate its leader? Stand idly by while extremists took over?
Of course, that pretty much precludes more than one handful of countries.
I think a simple little test would reveal the security level of an individual...
Did Barack Obama, during his term in office, bomb the shit out of your middle east country? Assassinate its leader? Stand idly by while extremists took over?
Of course, that pretty much precludes more than one handful of countries.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 02:42 PM (HTdUD)
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DJT needs to go chainsaw Al on the security services, DOJ, FBI, Judicial Branch, etc., etc.
And I don't mean handing out pink-slips
And I don't mean handing out pink-slips
Posted by: Chainsaw Al Dunlop at May 25, 2017 02:42 PM (DpOmP)
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>>Not that our security forces are any better. See, e.g., the Tsarnaevs. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (SRKgf)
Not true. One "oh shit" doesn't simply cancel out one thousand "attaboys."
Not true. One "oh shit" doesn't simply cancel out one thousand "attaboys."
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:42 PM (Bdeb0)
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Manchester Fireman: I say, the city is on fire.
Manchester Fire Chief: Oh, drat! Care for a spot of tea?
Manchester Fire Chief: Oh, drat! Care for a spot of tea?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 25, 2017 02:42 PM (Nwg0u)
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Not that our security forces are any better. See, e.g., the Tsarnaevs.
***
Where Vlad Putin, our supposed eternal enemy shared intelligence with Barack Obama that should have stopped the Boston bombing.
***
Where Vlad Putin, our supposed eternal enemy shared intelligence with Barack Obama that should have stopped the Boston bombing.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:42 PM (aZq03)
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Meanwhile, the performer herself, little miss Burrito Grande, previously known for her acidic comments saying "I hate America, I hate Americans," has come discreetly scuttling back from the dangerous UK to the safety of America.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (
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I heard she is home n FLA and having a nervous breakdown. Maybe the cognitive dissonance is too much?
Maybe America is not her enemy?
Maybe her "friends" are not her friends?
Naaah. She is grandstanding for the tabloids.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 02:33 PM (
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I heard she is home n FLA and having a nervous breakdown. Maybe the cognitive dissonance is too much?
Maybe America is not her enemy?
Maybe her "friends" are not her friends?
Naaah. She is grandstanding for the tabloids.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:43 PM (XSEwK)
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Yup. Obama's team used FISA court to monitor Trump and others.
FISA court is only supposed to be used for serious, imminent terror threats.
And
we still don;t know the extent of all of Obama's other illegal
surveillance activity, but it's a safe bet he was illegally using all
the terror monitoring capabilities on his political enemies, not
jihadis.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NOIQH)
The problem lies then not just with Obama...but with the FISA court.
Well....all courts for that matter.
FISA court is only supposed to be used for serious, imminent terror threats.
And
we still don;t know the extent of all of Obama's other illegal
surveillance activity, but it's a safe bet he was illegally using all
the terror monitoring capabilities on his political enemies, not
jihadis.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (NOIQH)
The problem lies then not just with Obama...but with the FISA court.
Well....all courts for that matter.
Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2017 02:43 PM (Enq6K)
120
The left is going to rue this new jurisprudence that allows the use of public statements by politicians to establish religious animus in legislation. If the SC doesn't put a stop to it, it is going to benefit christians. Just like all the other craziness to stop Rs (ending fillibuster, executive orders) and oppose Trump, the precedents set will eventually boomerang and backfire.
Posted by: Czar Peter at May 25, 2017 02:44 PM (gMQzW)
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Not that our security forces are any better. See, e.g., the Tsarnaevs.
It's not like Russia warned us about them but.... RUSSIA!
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Damn Russians and their tampering!
It's not like Russia warned us about them but.... RUSSIA!
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Damn Russians and their tampering!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 25, 2017 02:45 PM (Nwg0u)
122
The problem, which surprised me, is just that there are so many high-level terrorist threats that there just aren't enough counter-terrorism surveillance personnel to follow them any more than a fraction of the time.
Detain and deport ALL Muslims.
Detain and deport ALL Muslims.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:45 PM (SRKgf)
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>>I fail to understand how they can be refugees fleeing Somalia and yet
feel perfectly safe returning to visit Somalia multiple times. In an
rd government, they would be given a stipend and sent back home.
Because obviously, they are the kind of people Somalia needs if it going
to improve.
Exactly. You're not a refugee if you feel comfortable going back and fort to your home country on a regular basis. Like everything else, this (legal?) term has been stretched so far beyond it's original meaning it is a meaningless designation. Just like "immigrant" is a catch-all for legal and illegal, and also used interchangeably with "migrant".
feel perfectly safe returning to visit Somalia multiple times. In an
rd government, they would be given a stipend and sent back home.
Because obviously, they are the kind of people Somalia needs if it going
to improve.
Exactly. You're not a refugee if you feel comfortable going back and fort to your home country on a regular basis. Like everything else, this (legal?) term has been stretched so far beyond it's original meaning it is a meaningless designation. Just like "immigrant" is a catch-all for legal and illegal, and also used interchangeably with "migrant".
Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 02:45 PM (NOIQH)
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The problem lies then not just with Obama...but with the FISA court.
Well....all courts for that matter.
Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2017 02:43 PM (Enq6K)
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From what I understand, only about 4% of the FISA Court requests were turned down by the court. That being the case, that court is just a rubber stamp.
Well....all courts for that matter.
Posted by: Tami at May 25, 2017 02:43 PM (Enq6K)
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From what I understand, only about 4% of the FISA Court requests were turned down by the court. That being the case, that court is just a rubber stamp.
Posted by: GOULD at May 25, 2017 02:46 PM (HsCKK)
125
"Exactly. This guy went to Libya numerous times... hello, not exactly a Vacay paradise.."
And this is the kind of guy that Khadafy would have taken care of for us if we asked him nicely. But we had to get rid of him for some reason....
And this is the kind of guy that Khadafy would have taken care of for us if we asked him nicely. But we had to get rid of him for some reason....
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 25, 2017 02:46 PM (OD2ni)
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Oh lord, they have a gofundme set up for the weasel that got a whooping from the Repb. in Montana... For new eyeglasses....
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:46 PM (O2RFr)
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Simple question for Ms Grande...
Ariana, you've claimed you hate America because it is a danger to the things you love. Would you care to revisit exactly who is a danger to you and the things you love based on your recent experience in Manchester?
Ariana, you've claimed you hate America because it is a danger to the things you love. Would you care to revisit exactly who is a danger to you and the things you love based on your recent experience in Manchester?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:47 PM (aZq03)
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They could pull all the officers and agents who are staring at computers all day trying to catch low hanging fruit downloading child pornography that's been on the internet for over 15 years (the never catch the actual producers of the material, just those who view it) off those non-life threatening cases and put them out in the field where they could actually make a difference and potentially save lives. They demononize and destroy lives of people who, in most cases, have never hurt anyone and in the meantime they let the followers of Mohammed and all the illegals just run wild. This government doesn't care about the lives of its citizens. It cares about appeasement, power and money.
Posted by: Sick of this at May 25, 2017 02:47 PM (YmHYa)
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Y'know, they might have had more resources to track these threats if their primary mission for the last God knows how long hadn't apparently been surveillance and covert action against the law-abiding citizens of their own goddamn country.
Just, y'know, a thought there.
Just, y'know, a thought there.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 02:47 PM (AM1GF)
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Britain 1940 - I say, there's all of those Jerry planes in the sky. Better not do anything lest we seem Germanaphobic.
Britain 1940 - I say, there's all of those Jerry planes in the sky. Better not do anything lest we seem Germanaphobic.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:47 PM (493sH)
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Unless you live on the border, you wouldn't believe the number of Hispanic "unaccompanied minors" with full beards and bodies covered with tattoos were flown out of McAllen TX on American Airlines (who has a contract with the govt.) to cities across the country every day in 2014-2016.
My wife and I were going to Las Vegas in 2015 and our plane was full of them...with dozens more boarding different planes. They were accompanied on their journey by Catholic Charity workers, who are mainly responsible for them being here. They get grants from the govt to entice them to come here...therefore they encourage them to break our laws.
My wife and I were going to Las Vegas in 2015 and our plane was full of them...with dozens more boarding different planes. They were accompanied on their journey by Catholic Charity workers, who are mainly responsible for them being here. They get grants from the govt to entice them to come here...therefore they encourage them to break our laws.
Posted by: vinnymotto at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (+0t2Z)
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Forget protecting us, the FBI wanted a successful attack in Garland. Guy was right behind them and was busy taking pictures.
Get a few annoying conservatives killed and your undercover guy gets more credibility with terrorists. Win-win.
Get a few annoying conservatives killed and your undercover guy gets more credibility with terrorists. Win-win.
Posted by: Sjg at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (gDSJf)
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They could pull all the officers and agents who are staring at computers all day trying to catch low hanging fruit downloading child pornography that's been on the internet for over 15 years (the never catch the actual producers of the material, just those who view it) off those non-life threatening cases and put them out in the field where they could actually make a difference and potentially save lives. They demononize and destroy lives of people who, in most cases, have never hurt anyone and in the meantime they let the followers of Mohammed and all the illegals just run wild. This government doesn't care about the lives of its citizens. It cares about appeasement, power and money.
Posted by: Sick of this at May 25, 2017 02:47 PM (YmHYa)
they could do both if the handcuffs were taken off and they did not spend 1/2 their time taking sensativity classes
Posted by: Sick of this at May 25, 2017 02:47 PM (YmHYa)
they could do both if the handcuffs were taken off and they did not spend 1/2 their time taking sensativity classes
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (5y11N)
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121 Not that our security forces are any better. See, e.g., the Tsarnaevs.
It's not like Russia warned us about them but.... RUSSIA!
And the Russians warned us TWICE!!
WTF did the FBI need, the Tsarnaevs to wear sandwich board signs saying "I'm a terrorist?"
It's not like Russia warned us about them but.... RUSSIA!
And the Russians warned us TWICE!!
WTF did the FBI need, the Tsarnaevs to wear sandwich board signs saying "I'm a terrorist?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (SRKgf)
135
Where is Col. Kratman writing at these days?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (3OIiX)
136
I hear that in the Army they are now calling these guys "Known Wolf" instead of "Lone Wolf".
Posted by: Rob at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (9rjbw)
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It is the exact same mentality they had with the Rotherham children being targeted. The "security services", cops, bureaucrats, politicals, etc do NOT care. They know most or all of the victims will be trash, lessors, nobodies thus they don't give a hoot. Keeping the myth of multi-culti is more important and that is what the politicos want. Report any of this scum and get shamed for being a racist and bigot.
Posted by: Lester at May 25, 2017 02:40 PM (
This just needs repeating.
BTW, You and I? We are trash too.
Less than the dust beneath their hand stitched imported Italian loafers. They are the enlightened ones.
Posted by: Lester at May 25, 2017 02:40 PM (
This just needs repeating.
BTW, You and I? We are trash too.
Less than the dust beneath their hand stitched imported Italian loafers. They are the enlightened ones.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (XSEwK)
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49 I would also like to remind of the INCREASED muz immigration after 9-11.
Not curtail, but increase.
But I'm a conspiracy nut. So there is that.
Posted by: nip at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (vOea4)
One might almost conclude that the authorities don't mind terrorism, and even encourage it.
At least that's what they would do if their end goal was an iron-fisted, totalitarian police state.
Not curtail, but increase.
But I'm a conspiracy nut. So there is that.
Posted by: nip at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (vOea4)
One might almost conclude that the authorities don't mind terrorism, and even encourage it.
At least that's what they would do if their end goal was an iron-fisted, totalitarian police state.
Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (xjiRE)
139
Time to start charging judges with 'aiding and abetting terrorism' and sending them to Gitmo... no review, no hearings, no nothing...
Posted by: Leroy Jethro Gibbs at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (DpOmP)
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From what I understand, only about 4% of the FISA Court requests were turned down by the court. That being the case, that court is just a rubber stamp.
Posted by: GOULD
I think I read 4 cases out of 12,000. So you might have to shift quite a number of decimal places to the right. Still makes it rubber stamp but probably in all upper case letters, like your nic.
Posted by: GOULD
I think I read 4 cases out of 12,000. So you might have to shift quite a number of decimal places to the right. Still makes it rubber stamp but probably in all upper case letters, like your nic.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (HTdUD)
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98 60 http://tinyurl.com/md5g92s
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
If Islam cannot be criticized then the U.K. is already living under Sharia.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)
And remember that if Shrillary Killary had been made President, she was going to sign onto the UN Resolution that makes it a Hate Crime (TM) to criticize Shari'ah.
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
If Islam cannot be criticized then the U.K. is already living under Sharia.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)
And remember that if Shrillary Killary had been made President, she was going to sign onto the UN Resolution that makes it a Hate Crime (TM) to criticize Shari'ah.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (luj3F)
142
Simple question for Ms Grande...
Ariana, you've claimed you hate America because it is a danger to the things you love. Would you care to revisit exactly who is a danger to you and the things you love based on your recent experience in Manchester?
Posted by: 18-1
Simpler question: Ms. Grande, can you please STFU until you are a little older and have some real life experiences?
M'kay? Tkx!
Ariana, you've claimed you hate America because it is a danger to the things you love. Would you care to revisit exactly who is a danger to you and the things you love based on your recent experience in Manchester?
Posted by: 18-1
Simpler question: Ms. Grande, can you please STFU until you are a little older and have some real life experiences?
M'kay? Tkx!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:50 PM (4BGeF)
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Have we gotten an official answer on that? The FBI knew what the jihadis were going to do and did nothing to stop them...
Was it "a screw up"?
Or is there an actual claimed reason they allowed it to happen?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (aZq03)
I haven't followed that too closely but I don't think there's been an explanation for it. And there won't ever be because we plebes don't deserve to know how the FBI is more than happy to break some eggs.
IIRC, the people asking the questions are working under the assumption that the FBI had a guy in the group and he was letting things proceed in order to get more intel. Okay, that's fine and if you squint you can see the justification for waiting for the over action* before doing anything. The major question is that why were they allowed to even get close to their target if the FBI guy knew they were headed there? Because you would think that the need to maintain cover would stop at the point where US citizens were about to be shot.
*Remember, the difference between shooting off your mouth about what you're going to do and being charged with conspiracy is taking an overt action. If we scamps get together and say we're going to let chupacabras free on the floor of the House in order for them to seek victims for the thundering, that's just bullshit. If we capture some chupacabras and rent a truck to drive them to DC, that's a conspiracy.
Was it "a screw up"?
Or is there an actual claimed reason they allowed it to happen?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 02:41 PM (aZq03)
I haven't followed that too closely but I don't think there's been an explanation for it. And there won't ever be because we plebes don't deserve to know how the FBI is more than happy to break some eggs.
IIRC, the people asking the questions are working under the assumption that the FBI had a guy in the group and he was letting things proceed in order to get more intel. Okay, that's fine and if you squint you can see the justification for waiting for the over action* before doing anything. The major question is that why were they allowed to even get close to their target if the FBI guy knew they were headed there? Because you would think that the need to maintain cover would stop at the point where US citizens were about to be shot.
*Remember, the difference between shooting off your mouth about what you're going to do and being charged with conspiracy is taking an overt action. If we scamps get together and say we're going to let chupacabras free on the floor of the House in order for them to seek victims for the thundering, that's just bullshit. If we capture some chupacabras and rent a truck to drive them to DC, that's a conspiracy.
Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 25, 2017 02:50 PM (mf5HN)
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Simpler question: Ms. Grande, can you please STFU until you are a little older and have some real life experiences?
M'kay? Tkx!
P.S. You're "music" sucks...
M'kay? Tkx!
P.S. You're "music" sucks...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:50 PM (O2RFr)
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>>And remember that if Shrillary Killary had been
made President, she was going to sign onto the UN Resolution that makes
it a Hate Crime (TM) to criticize Shari'ah. Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (luj3F)
I miss The Cackle.
made President, she was going to sign onto the UN Resolution that makes
it a Hate Crime (TM) to criticize Shari'ah. Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (luj3F)
I miss The Cackle.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:50 PM (Bdeb0)
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Simpler question: Ms. Grande, can you please STFU until you are a little older and have some real life experiences?
M'kay? Tkx!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:50 PM (4BGeF)
I could stuff something in her mouth to keep her quiet
M'kay? Tkx!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:50 PM (4BGeF)
I could stuff something in her mouth to keep her quiet
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (493sH)
147
You're=your... danged autocucumber...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (O2RFr)
148
My neighbor is an illegal, his daughter who is legal is going to Long Beach State, and majoring in criminal justice. ?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (6Ll1u)
149
Exactly. You're not a refugee if you feel comfortable going back and fort to your home country on a regular basis. Like everything else, this (legal?) term has been stretched so far beyond it's original meaning it is a meaningless designation. Just like "immigrant" is a catch-all for legal and illegal, and also used interchangeably with "migrant".
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Gee, I wish I had the cash and time to fly back and forth to foreign countries all the time.
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Gee, I wish I had the cash and time to fly back and forth to foreign countries all the time.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (vg8iE)
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28 Seems pretty obvious that at least part of the goal of Obama allowing all these jihadis and MS-13 gang-bangers, as well as the random criminal scum, was to justify for more surveillance, more police state action.
Exactly so, Lizzy. Deliberately let in people who are a security risk and you'll have to hire more government workers to track them. Grow the bureaucracy.
28 Seems pretty obvious that at least part of the goal of Obama allowing all these jihadis and MS-13 gang-bangers, as well as the random criminal scum, was to justify for more surveillance, more police state action.
Exactly so, Lizzy. Deliberately let in people who are a security risk and you'll have to hire more government workers to track them. Grow the bureaucracy.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (ZM2xo)
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126
Oh lord, they have a gofundme set up for the weasel that got a whooping from the Repb. in Montana... For new eyeglasses....
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:46 PM (O2RFr)
If enough money is donated, he might even be able to move out from his mother's basement. Maybe even get testicular implants seeing as he has no balls.
We should start a go-fundme for the Rep.'s legal defense.
Oh lord, they have a gofundme set up for the weasel that got a whooping from the Repb. in Montana... For new eyeglasses....
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2017 02:46 PM (O2RFr)
If enough money is donated, he might even be able to move out from his mother's basement. Maybe even get testicular implants seeing as he has no balls.
We should start a go-fundme for the Rep.'s legal defense.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (jxbfJ)
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I call BS on his family reporting him, not with his father and brother both being arrested for another terrorist plot and his sister being all pro-Libya.
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (QAOZh)
153
The Orlando shooter had been questioned by the FBI at least twice prior to his rampage.
Here's the real problem in a free society such as ours -- You cannot arrest and detain citizens for what they think or say, with a few exceptions. You can try and entrap them to go for a specific plot or action (and we do), but the ACLU and the courts frown upon this type of trickery. And you can't deport them either, hell, they are citizens. Deport to where?
That's kind of the situation with Britain's latest killerboy. His parents are immigrants to GB, but if he was born in GB then he's a citizen. So until he committed a crime, whatcha gonna do? (Yes, I know GB doesn't have the same free speech rights as us, but still)
Some day it will be necessary to outlaw Islam, to say that it isn't a religion, much like France did with Scientology.
If the current rules don't and can't work, change the playing field.
Here's the real problem in a free society such as ours -- You cannot arrest and detain citizens for what they think or say, with a few exceptions. You can try and entrap them to go for a specific plot or action (and we do), but the ACLU and the courts frown upon this type of trickery. And you can't deport them either, hell, they are citizens. Deport to where?
That's kind of the situation with Britain's latest killerboy. His parents are immigrants to GB, but if he was born in GB then he's a citizen. So until he committed a crime, whatcha gonna do? (Yes, I know GB doesn't have the same free speech rights as us, but still)
Some day it will be necessary to outlaw Islam, to say that it isn't a religion, much like France did with Scientology.
If the current rules don't and can't work, change the playing field.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (wTwJ2)
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148 My neighbor is an illegal, his daughter who is legal is going to Long Beach State, and majoring in criminal justice. ?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (6Ll1u)
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Hopefully at taxpayer expense.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (6Ll1u)
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Hopefully at taxpayer expense.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (vg8iE)
155
Greetings:
Not long ago, when she was occupying the Home Secretary sinecure, now Prime Minister May banned Robert Spencer and Pamela Gellar of "Stop the Islamization of Europe" from entering once Great Britain lest some people be disturbed by their speeches.
That's the kind of message that those fond of government sinecure easily understand and as easily acquiesce to.
Not long ago, when she was occupying the Home Secretary sinecure, now Prime Minister May banned Robert Spencer and Pamela Gellar of "Stop the Islamization of Europe" from entering once Great Britain lest some people be disturbed by their speeches.
That's the kind of message that those fond of government sinecure easily understand and as easily acquiesce to.
Posted by: 11B40 at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (evgyj)
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>>I could stuff something in her mouth to keep her quiet Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (493sH)
A pillow? So you could ___?
A pillow? So you could ___?
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:53 PM (Bdeb0)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2017 02:30 PM (d6ag0)
Oh good grief. Generalize much?
I have plenty of friends on the Left; friends I have had since I was in grade school, friends who have been there for me through thick and thin. Friends who have given me far more than I have given them.
I robustly argue politics with some of them, and don't discuss politics at all with some of them.
Oh good grief. Generalize much?
I have plenty of friends on the Left; friends I have had since I was in grade school, friends who have been there for me through thick and thin. Friends who have given me far more than I have given them.
I robustly argue politics with some of them, and don't discuss politics at all with some of them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 02:53 PM (evJdV)
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You cannot arrest and detain citizens for what they think or say, with a few exceptions.
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But you can sure as hell strike down their executive orders in court for the same reason.
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But you can sure as hell strike down their executive orders in court for the same reason.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 02:53 PM (vg8iE)
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1. Put terrorists on watch list
2. Terrorists commit act of terrorism
3. Oops! We didn't think they were dangerous
4. People scream for MORE surveillance
5. Police surveil taxpayers
Later, rinse, repeat.
The purpose is not to stop terrorism, it's to monitor taxpayers.
That's why so-called islamophobia is a HUGE problem, yet a muslim raping a child is not.
/they've brought in muslims to destabilize society. the only "solution" is totalitarianism.
2. Terrorists commit act of terrorism
3. Oops! We didn't think they were dangerous
4. People scream for MORE surveillance
5. Police surveil taxpayers
Later, rinse, repeat.
The purpose is not to stop terrorism, it's to monitor taxpayers.
That's why so-called islamophobia is a HUGE problem, yet a muslim raping a child is not.
/they've brought in muslims to destabilize society. the only "solution" is totalitarianism.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 02:54 PM (aT+Bx)
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When the press asked Obama about the MS-13 report, what did he say?
Ha! I keeed! Like any of them would ask their boyfriend a tough question!
Ha! I keeed! Like any of them would ask their boyfriend a tough question!
Posted by: Ted K. at May 25, 2017 02:54 PM (S7j+0)
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135 Where is Col. Kratman writing at these days?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (3OIiX)
His novel, "Caliphate" is still free at Baen Books.
He posts at a site called, "Lines of Departure" about once a week?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 02:48 PM (3OIiX)
His novel, "Caliphate" is still free at Baen Books.
He posts at a site called, "Lines of Departure" about once a week?
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 02:54 PM (XSEwK)
162
Sixth time is the charm. Abedi pulled the trigger early. Not our fault.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:55 PM (czLDv)
163
Here's how I thought a good portion of our nation's security would play out after 9-11:
We would make a deal; with the Brits and whoever that we would kill (assassinate) known or highly suspected terrorists on their soil-
and they would do the same on our soil.
Kick the door in and kill everyone in the room sort of stuff.
Obviously, this would apply to MS-13 types as well.
That way bad guys never or, at the very least, rarely kill American citizens or anyone else for that matter-
and eventually the jihadtards get the message and stop their nonsense.
But, I was wrong.
W wasted a lot of lives and righteous anger of Americans with his "Islam is peace" silliness.
And now, even after Trump's win, both the GOPe and Dims are happy to welcome terrorists and drug criminals across the border-
and give them a Slurpie and a box of Little Debbie Snack Cakes, instead of a bullet between the eyes before they can kill American children.
Thanks a-holes.
We would make a deal; with the Brits and whoever that we would kill (assassinate) known or highly suspected terrorists on their soil-
and they would do the same on our soil.
Kick the door in and kill everyone in the room sort of stuff.
Obviously, this would apply to MS-13 types as well.
That way bad guys never or, at the very least, rarely kill American citizens or anyone else for that matter-
and eventually the jihadtards get the message and stop their nonsense.
But, I was wrong.
W wasted a lot of lives and righteous anger of Americans with his "Islam is peace" silliness.
And now, even after Trump's win, both the GOPe and Dims are happy to welcome terrorists and drug criminals across the border-
and give them a Slurpie and a box of Little Debbie Snack Cakes, instead of a bullet between the eyes before they can kill American children.
Thanks a-holes.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2017 02:55 PM (NyJwR)
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>>Some day it will be necessary to outlaw Islam, to say that it isn't a religion, much like France did with Scientology. If the current rules don't and can't work, change the playing field. Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (wTwJ2)
Exactly right. We're being killed with our own rules.
Exactly right. We're being killed with our own rules.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:55 PM (Bdeb0)
165
She has already been recruited by ICE by the way
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:55 PM (6Ll1u)
166
somewhat relevant:
Girl in Denmark uses illegal pepper spray to stop rape by Muslim.
She is being prosecuted.
/yes, those are your elected politicians in action. Lie down and submit to islam, no matter what.
Girl in Denmark uses illegal pepper spray to stop rape by Muslim.
She is being prosecuted.
/yes, those are your elected politicians in action. Lie down and submit to islam, no matter what.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 02:56 PM (aT+Bx)
167
In an rb government, they would be HALO'ed back home.
Sans chute.
For a moment we thought he was an angel from heaven.
Sans chute.
For a moment we thought he was an angel from heaven.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 25, 2017 02:56 PM (4WhSY)
168
Exactly right. We're being killed with our own rules.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:55 PM (Bdeb0)
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My plan is working perfectly.
Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:55 PM (Bdeb0)
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My plan is working perfectly.
Posted by: Saul Alinsky at May 25, 2017 02:57 PM (vg8iE)
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That asshat was on a "watch list", but he wasn't watched after he returned from his visit to terrorist-filled Libya?
Whoever was doing the "watching" needs to have their "watch" money taken away.
Whoever was doing the "watching" needs to have their "watch" money taken away.
Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (yDmP8)
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somewhat relevant:
Girl in Denmark uses illegal pepper spray to stop rape by Muslim.
She is being prosecuted.
/yes, those are your elected politicians in action. Lie down and submit to islam, no matter what.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 02:56 PM (aT+Bx)
Wow just wow. Anyone prosecuting her needs a wall, blindfold and firing squad.
Girl in Denmark uses illegal pepper spray to stop rape by Muslim.
She is being prosecuted.
/yes, those are your elected politicians in action. Lie down and submit to islam, no matter what.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 02:56 PM (aT+Bx)
Wow just wow. Anyone prosecuting her needs a wall, blindfold and firing squad.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (493sH)
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I hear a right winger has an M-80 and a couple of trendy thick black glasses tied up on 5th and Main. On a table. In a basement.
About.
To.
Light.
The.
Fuse.
About.
To.
Light.
The.
Fuse.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (2qHjF)
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Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2017 02:55 PM (NyJwR)
WTF? I ain't letting any foreign entity the right to kick in doors on our soil.
WTF? I ain't letting any foreign entity the right to kick in doors on our soil.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (czLDv)
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Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (wTwJ2)
I have been trying to say this same thing, but couldn't do so as well as you did.
I do not want to live in a country where the cops can arrest me based on something someone said.
Best thing to do is not let them in to start with, end of story.
I will also say that I wish they'd report more on the mosque notifying the police about his behavior; it makes me feel better, because I tend to have the impression that a) most mosques are supportive of terrorism and b) most Muslims won't rat each other out.
I have been trying to say this same thing, but couldn't do so as well as you did.
I do not want to live in a country where the cops can arrest me based on something someone said.
Best thing to do is not let them in to start with, end of story.
I will also say that I wish they'd report more on the mosque notifying the police about his behavior; it makes me feel better, because I tend to have the impression that a) most mosques are supportive of terrorism and b) most Muslims won't rat each other out.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (evJdV)
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169 That asshat was on a "watch list", but he wasn't watched after he returned from his visit to terrorist-filled Libya?
Whoever was doing the "watching" needs to have their "watch" money taken away.
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I can either watch terrorists or I can watch porn at work.
What the fuck do you expect from me???
Whoever was doing the "watching" needs to have their "watch" money taken away.
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I can either watch terrorists or I can watch porn at work.
What the fuck do you expect from me???
Posted by: Government Watcher at May 25, 2017 02:59 PM (vg8iE)
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Top 500!
Stories like these tend to induce in me rage-stroke.
And, I didn't see any bewbs in this post....
Stories like these tend to induce in me rage-stroke.
And, I didn't see any bewbs in this post....
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2017 02:59 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:00 PM (4BGeF)
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>>>The problem, which surprised me, is just that there are so many high-level terrorist threats that there just aren't enough counter-terrorism surveillance personnel to follow them any more than a fraction of the time.
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.We never had nor will we ever have the resources to investigate everyone that pops on the Terrorist radar no matter how bad we want to, unless we want to turn into the same kind of Police State Germany wound up being during that last year or so of the War.
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.We never had nor will we ever have the resources to investigate everyone that pops on the Terrorist radar no matter how bad we want to, unless we want to turn into the same kind of Police State Germany wound up being during that last year or so of the War.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 03:01 PM (le7jz)
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It is the exact same mentality they had with the Rotherham children being targeted. The "security services", cops, bureaucrats, politicals, etc do NOT care.
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There are two kinds of people in the world, the apathetic and the rayciss.
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There are two kinds of people in the world, the apathetic and the rayciss.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 25, 2017 03:01 PM (Nwg0u)
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Problem: muh broken glasses
Reaction: Trump makes hate, rape. and violence.
Solution: Import millions more 3rd Worlders.
Reaction: Trump makes hate, rape. and violence.
Solution: Import millions more 3rd Worlders.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (K1Wp+)
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173 I will also say that I wish they'd report more on the mosque notifying the police about his behavior; it makes me feel better, because I tend to have the impression that a) most mosques are supportive of terrorism and b) most Muslims won't rat each other out.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (evJdV)
The first rule of Terror Mosque is : You don't talk about Terror Mosque.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (evJdV)
The first rule of Terror Mosque is : You don't talk about Terror Mosque.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (ULi11)
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I will also say that I wish they'd report more on the mosque notifying the police about his behavior; it makes me feel better, because I tend to have the impression that a) most mosques are supportive of terrorism and b) most Muslims won't rat each other out.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (evJdV)
I have that impression too, but frankly I'm a little skeptical about the mosque and other Muslims ratting him out. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I suspect that that might be some PC government dezinformatsiya in an unsuccessful effort to scrub some stink off of the Muslims.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (evJdV)
I have that impression too, but frankly I'm a little skeptical about the mosque and other Muslims ratting him out. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I suspect that that might be some PC government dezinformatsiya in an unsuccessful effort to scrub some stink off of the Muslims.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (SRKgf)
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Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 02:56 PM (aT+Bx)
Europeans who do not support the Islamization of Europe need to request refugee status here based on persecution and fear for their safety,
Europeans who do not support the Islamization of Europe need to request refugee status here based on persecution and fear for their safety,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (qES5k)
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Would this be a possible useful use of the swatting tactic?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (h/uSM)
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I have plenty of friends on the Left; friends I have had since I was in grade school, friends who have been there for me through thick and thin. Friends who have given me far more than I have given them.
I robustly argue politics with some of them, and don't discuss politics at all with some of them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
There used to be a definition of a liberal as 'someone who hadn't been mugged yet'.
If some of us here, just slightly older than the average 29 years, tell you to exercise caution, their life experience might be worth a little more than the .02 they contribute.
If I ventured a guess as to my personal financial cost of liberalism from politicians, friends, family, I'd be well north of a million and a half and counting.
I robustly argue politics with some of them, and don't discuss politics at all with some of them.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
There used to be a definition of a liberal as 'someone who hadn't been mugged yet'.
If some of us here, just slightly older than the average 29 years, tell you to exercise caution, their life experience might be worth a little more than the .02 they contribute.
If I ventured a guess as to my personal financial cost of liberalism from politicians, friends, family, I'd be well north of a million and a half and counting.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (HTdUD)
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Watching the Cubs game. The guy throwing out the first pitch must have been about 80 years old. He throws the ball and it one hops in. He tells them it was no good and let him try again. Second time he gets it there just a bit outside. An 80 year old can throw better than ex-Prezzy Cockcurious
Watching the Cubs game. The guy throwing out the first pitch must have been about 80 years old. He throws the ball and it one hops in. He tells them it was no good and let him try again. Second time he gets it there just a bit outside. An 80 year old can throw better than ex-Prezzy Cockcurious
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (493sH)
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176 For a moment we thought he was an angel from heaven.
But when he didn't stop....
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As Allah as my witness...i thought jihadis could fly.
But when he didn't stop....
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As Allah as my witness...i thought jihadis could fly.
Posted by: Mr. Al-Carlson at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (evJdV)
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And yet, the TSA is getting ready to implement even more onerous (odorous) requirements on average citizens.
Posted by: One at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (RYASC)
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I have "friends" on the left. But, that's only because they don't know I'm on the right. I hide it better than Obama's transcripts so that I can survive in this city to be near my children.
However, I am under no illusions that any of the goodwill they show toward me includes any sort of tolerance for differing viewpoints, and therefore, I won't allow myself to actually let them know who I really am.
There are perhaps 4 people - in a city of millions - who actually know who I am. You do what you've got to do.
However, I am under no illusions that any of the goodwill they show toward me includes any sort of tolerance for differing viewpoints, and therefore, I won't allow myself to actually let them know who I really am.
There are perhaps 4 people - in a city of millions - who actually know who I am. You do what you've got to do.
Posted by: grognard at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (6Wprx)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (K1Wp+)
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>>> It's not like Russia warned us about them but.... RUSSIA!
"And the Russians warned us TWICE!!"
Also, when the subject is HUMINT on Chechen terror plots, and it's coming from Moscow Centre, anyone with the sense God gave a goose would immediately pay attention to the warning.
Because Chechen terror atrocities are a regular thing in today's Russia, and the Russian security services have watching Chechnya as a major focus of theirs. They have a vastly more extensive informant network in the Chechen diaspora than the counterpart American services could ever dream of having.
"And the Russians warned us TWICE!!"
Also, when the subject is HUMINT on Chechen terror plots, and it's coming from Moscow Centre, anyone with the sense God gave a goose would immediately pay attention to the warning.
Because Chechen terror atrocities are a regular thing in today's Russia, and the Russian security services have watching Chechnya as a major focus of theirs. They have a vastly more extensive informant network in the Chechen diaspora than the counterpart American services could ever dream of having.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:04 PM (ujwCG)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (h/uSM)
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141 98 60 http://tinyurl.com/md5g92s
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
If Islam cannot be criticized then the U.K. is already living under Sharia.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)
And remember that if Shrillary Killary had been made President, she was going to sign onto the UN Resolution that makes it a Hate Crime (TM) to criticize Shari'ah.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (luj3F)
That mentality makes me twitch. Since when is it a hate crime to criticize a system of belief. And for that matter, what's wrong with hating a way of thinking and a system of belief? I don't have a legal issue at all with people hating things I believe. And people are free to hate my faith, from a legal perspective. I'm satisfied God can handle it.
Daily Mail reporter Katie Hopkins (as seen on Tucker!) is under threat of legal action for speaking the truth.
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:29 PM (C52a9)
If Islam cannot be criticized then the U.K. is already living under Sharia.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (hJrjt)
And remember that if Shrillary Killary had been made President, she was going to sign onto the UN Resolution that makes it a Hate Crime (TM) to criticize Shari'ah.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 02:49 PM (luj3F)
That mentality makes me twitch. Since when is it a hate crime to criticize a system of belief. And for that matter, what's wrong with hating a way of thinking and a system of belief? I don't have a legal issue at all with people hating things I believe. And people are free to hate my faith, from a legal perspective. I'm satisfied God can handle it.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (hJrjt)
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187 176 For a moment we thought he was an angel from heaven.
But when he didn't stop....
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As Allah as my witness...i thought jihadis could fly.
Posted by: Mr. Al-Carlson at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (h/uSM)
Sure they can. You just need to give a lot more of them practice, that's all.
But when he didn't stop....
--
As Allah as my witness...i thought jihadis could fly.
Posted by: Mr. Al-Carlson at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (h/uSM)
Sure they can. You just need to give a lot more of them practice, that's all.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (SRKgf)
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WTF? I ain't letting any foreign entity the right to kick in doors on our soil.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (czLDv)
Not any door or any rights either.
They would have our permission of kick in a specific door with specific people inside to be eliminated.
a bit like the way the Italians wound up getting rid of the Red Brigade.
Not optimum. Not happy about it.
But, it would eliminate the problem.
Admittedly, that thinking didn't account for TFG, who would've increased American deaths via getting rid of Tea Party terrorists.
So....open borders it is.
WTF? I ain't letting any foreign entity the right to kick in doors on our soil.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:58 PM (czLDv)
Not any door or any rights either.
They would have our permission of kick in a specific door with specific people inside to be eliminated.
a bit like the way the Italians wound up getting rid of the Red Brigade.
Not optimum. Not happy about it.
But, it would eliminate the problem.
Admittedly, that thinking didn't account for TFG, who would've increased American deaths via getting rid of Tea Party terrorists.
So....open borders it is.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (NyJwR)
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Like, just an idea, maybe we could not admit known MS-13 gang members into our country when they illegally cross the border.
Posted by: Ace at 02:11 PM
.............
That makes sense, so forget it.
Posted by: Ace at 02:11 PM
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That makes sense, so forget it.
Posted by: wth at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (HgMAr)
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Not long ago, when she was occupying the Home Secretary sinecure, now Prime Minister May banned Robert Spencer and Pamela Gellar of "Stop the Islamization of Europe" from entering once Great Britain lest some people be disturbed by their speeches.
That's the kind of message that those fond of government sinecure easily understand and as easily acquiesce to.
Posted by: 11B40
Well, you didn't have to tell them twice about that, did you? Theresa May was all over that.
It's political power, and they are AFRAID of the outcome with now, this many Muslims in the country. There is no going back and they are screwed.
They'll always be an England
But it will be a Muslim country
As will France, Sweden, etc.
At some future tipping point, there will begin a mass exodus of Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
That's the kind of message that those fond of government sinecure easily understand and as easily acquiesce to.
Posted by: 11B40
Well, you didn't have to tell them twice about that, did you? Theresa May was all over that.
It's political power, and they are AFRAID of the outcome with now, this many Muslims in the country. There is no going back and they are screwed.
They'll always be an England
But it will be a Muslim country
As will France, Sweden, etc.
At some future tipping point, there will begin a mass exodus of Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (RFeQD)
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176 For a moment we thought he was an angel from heaven.
But when he didn't stop....
I heard that they bounce once...
(When I was in 4th Grade, from my Science teacher, who was a veteran and saw it up close.)
But when he didn't stop....
I heard that they bounce once...
(When I was in 4th Grade, from my Science teacher, who was a veteran and saw it up close.)
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (XSEwK)
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I think that every British government official in charge of safety is responsible for this attack. I get what Ace is saying but I still call BS. Why? According to the news and folks here most radicals have several features in common, they live in urban areas, and they live in a segregated area within that urban area. What the hell happened to sending someone (or several) into the community undercover? Especially when you are dealing with a group that self-segregates? Then have the undercover pay more attention to those folks who are reported as suspicious. This isn't brain surgery and police have done this with other dangerous groups before.
Posted by: lightning at May 25, 2017 03:06 PM (oJSnD)
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It is the exact same mentality they had with the Rotherham children being targeted. The "security services", cops, bureaucrats, politicals, etc do NOT care.
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
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Problem: sugar and carbs
Reaction: Boo Hoo! I am entitled to my fix and cheap healthcare.
Solution: White Genocide.
Reaction: Boo Hoo! I am entitled to my fix and cheap healthcare.
Solution: White Genocide.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (2qHjF)
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Also, when the subject is HUMINT on Chechen terror plots, and it's coming from Moscow Centre, anyone with the sense God gave a goose would immediately pay attention to the warning.
Because Chechen terror atrocities are a regular thing in today's Russia, and the Russian security services have watching Chechnya as a major focus of theirs. They have a vastly more extensive informant network in the Chechen diaspora than the counterpart American services could ever dream of having.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:04 PM (ujwCG)
Exactly. I doubt that the Russians routinely give us heads ups like this for shits and grins, and as you point out, they would be in a position to know something about Chechen terrorists.
You'd think that that sort of warning from that sort of serious source would warrant immediate action.
But then you'd be wrong.
Because Chechen terror atrocities are a regular thing in today's Russia, and the Russian security services have watching Chechnya as a major focus of theirs. They have a vastly more extensive informant network in the Chechen diaspora than the counterpart American services could ever dream of having.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:04 PM (ujwCG)
Exactly. I doubt that the Russians routinely give us heads ups like this for shits and grins, and as you point out, they would be in a position to know something about Chechen terrorists.
You'd think that that sort of warning from that sort of serious source would warrant immediate action.
But then you'd be wrong.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (SRKgf)
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199 Not long ago, when she was occupying the Home Secretary sinecure, now Prime Minister May banned Robert Spencer and Pamela Gellar of "Stop the Islamization of Europe" from entering once Great Britain lest some people be disturbed by their speeches.
That's the kind of message that those fond of government sinecure easily understand and as easily acquiesce to.
Posted by: 11B40
Well, you didn't have to tell them twice about that, did you? Theresa May was all over that.
It's political power, and they are AFRAID of the outcome with now, this many Muslims in the country. There is no going back and they are screwed.
They'll always be an England
But it will be a Muslim country
As will France, Sweden, etc.
At some future tipping point, there will begin a mass exodus of Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (RFeQD)
St Paul's Cathedral was rebuilt after the great fire. The Nazis also couldn't destroy. But it seems inevitable that it will get turned into a mosque.
That's the kind of message that those fond of government sinecure easily understand and as easily acquiesce to.
Posted by: 11B40
Well, you didn't have to tell them twice about that, did you? Theresa May was all over that.
It's political power, and they are AFRAID of the outcome with now, this many Muslims in the country. There is no going back and they are screwed.
They'll always be an England
But it will be a Muslim country
As will France, Sweden, etc.
At some future tipping point, there will begin a mass exodus of Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 03:05 PM (RFeQD)
St Paul's Cathedral was rebuilt after the great fire. The Nazis also couldn't destroy. But it seems inevitable that it will get turned into a mosque.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:08 PM (hJrjt)
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Danish girl update, from the Daily Mail:
However, as it is illegal to use pepper spray, the teenage girl is set to face charges. It is likely she will face a 500 Krone (Ł50) fineLocal police spokesman Knud Kirsten told TV Syd: 'It is illegal to possess and use pepper spray, so she will likely to be charged for that.'The man who attacked the girl fled from the scene and has not yet been charged. It is unclear if the man was an asylum seeker or refugee.
However, as it is illegal to use pepper spray, the teenage girl is set to face charges. It is likely she will face a 500 Krone (Ł50) fineLocal police spokesman Knud Kirsten told TV Syd: 'It is illegal to possess and use pepper spray, so she will likely to be charged for that.'The man who attacked the girl fled from the scene and has not yet been charged. It is unclear if the man was an asylum seeker or refugee.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:08 PM (aT+Bx)
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196 187 176 For a moment we thought he was an angel from heaven.
But when he didn't stop....
--
As Allah as my witness...i thought jihadis could fly.
Posted by: Mr. Al-Carlson at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (h/uSM)
Sure they can. You just need to give a lot more of them practice, that's all.
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WHHHHHOOOOOSSHHHHHH
**SPLAT**
That one really stuck the landing.
But when he didn't stop....
--
As Allah as my witness...i thought jihadis could fly.
Posted by: Mr. Al-Carlson at May 25, 2017 03:03 PM (h/uSM)
Sure they can. You just need to give a lot more of them practice, that's all.
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WHHHHHOOOOOSSHHHHHH
**SPLAT**
That one really stuck the landing.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 25, 2017 03:08 PM (h/uSM)
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I'm more partial to the boobies from the last thread.
Posted by: Sponge at May 25, 2017 03:08 PM (xttKs)
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
LOTS of money pouring in from Riyadh, Doha, and Dubai.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
LOTS of money pouring in from Riyadh, Doha, and Dubai.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:08 PM (ULi11)
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I have a family member who is getting married to a muslim tonight.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (dFi94)
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Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 03:02 PM (HTdUD)
I have celebrated 29 twice!
And I'm not dropping decades old friends because their political beliefs are different than mine.
Grant you, they are none of them particularly political creatures, which might make it harder to deal with, but no, not ruining wonderful friendships over politics.
I have celebrated 29 twice!
And I'm not dropping decades old friends because their political beliefs are different than mine.
Grant you, they are none of them particularly political creatures, which might make it harder to deal with, but no, not ruining wonderful friendships over politics.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (evJdV)
212
"Those responsible for sacking the responsible parties have themselves, been sacked." Your UK government in action.
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (gbWkA)
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49 I would also like to remind of the INCREASED muz immigration after 9-11.
Not curtail, but increase.
But I'm a conspiracy nut. So there is that.
Posted by: nip at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (vOea4)
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I used to be glad that GWB was president during 9/11 instead of AlGore. I used to defend GWB when my leftie friends mocked him.
I now see that GWB was not the man I wanted him to be, I was wishcasting, and I'm not so sure AlGore would have been worse. We'll never know.
Not curtail, but increase.
But I'm a conspiracy nut. So there is that.
Posted by: nip at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (vOea4)
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I used to be glad that GWB was president during 9/11 instead of AlGore. I used to defend GWB when my leftie friends mocked him.
I now see that GWB was not the man I wanted him to be, I was wishcasting, and I'm not so sure AlGore would have been worse. We'll never know.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (EBwPV)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:10 PM (evJdV)
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>>Some day it will be necessary to outlaw Islam, to say that it isn't a religion, much like France did with Scientology. If the current rules don't and can't work, change the playing field. Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (wTwJ2)
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The muzzies need to be recategorized as a criminal syndicate much like the mafia and any other criminal enterprise.
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The muzzies need to be recategorized as a criminal syndicate much like the mafia and any other criminal enterprise.
Posted by: Soona at May 25, 2017 03:10 PM (Fmupd)
216
What we need is more political candidates to whoop ass on Brit journalists.
Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2017 03:10 PM (2Mnv1)
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213 I used to be glad that GWB was president during 9/11 instead of AlGore. I used to defend GWB when my leftie friends mocked him.
I now see that GWB was not the man I wanted him to be, I was wishcasting, and I'm not so sure AlGore would have been worse. We'll never know.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (EBwPV)
GWB was FIRMLY in the pocket of Prince Al-Waleed bin-Talal.
I now see that GWB was not the man I wanted him to be, I was wishcasting, and I'm not so sure AlGore would have been worse. We'll never know.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (EBwPV)
GWB was FIRMLY in the pocket of Prince Al-Waleed bin-Talal.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:11 PM (ULi11)
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
The simple reason is that they're good with death on the fringes as they achieve the left utopia. But that's only if they have higher level thought. If they don't, it's simple, it's too dangerous for them to be called a "racist." That has become the worst thing in the world. It destroys your job, family, neighborhood and in europe, can get you arrested.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
The simple reason is that they're good with death on the fringes as they achieve the left utopia. But that's only if they have higher level thought. If they don't, it's simple, it's too dangerous for them to be called a "racist." That has become the worst thing in the world. It destroys your job, family, neighborhood and in europe, can get you arrested.
Posted by: dagny at May 25, 2017 03:11 PM (xrSGs)
Posted by: Your Betters at May 25, 2017 03:11 PM (hGMPa)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:11 PM (evJdV)
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Problem: Food Trucks
Reaction: Minorities hate quiet places and are loud!
Solution: White Genocide.
Reaction: Minorities hate quiet places and are loud!
Solution: White Genocide.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 03:11 PM (2qHjF)
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Actual crime is hard. It's easier to punish law-abiding people for 'demeanor' crimes like nasty words on Twitter.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM (oVJmc)
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:::makes popcorn, reclines LA-Z-BOY:::
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM (K1Wp+)
224
*ring ring*
"Terrorism Hotline. Press one now for Arabic. Press two now for Persian. Press three..."
"English will be fine."
"How may I help you then?"
"I want to report my friend from the mosque. He's been threatening to become a suicide bomber."
"How dare you call here and insult Muslims!"
"But I am a Muslim. And this is a Terrorism Hotline!"
"Don't tell us what our job is. We are here to stop the Racist Backlash(tm)."
"What about stopping the bombings first?"
"That's not important now. First, we must prevent the Racist Backlash(tm) from terrorizing innocent Muslims."
"I am an innocent Muslim, lady, and I'm telling you this guy is gonna' blow up a lot of kids at a concert."
"I don't like the tone in your voice, sir. And speaking of, he's probably just a music critic with strong opinions."
"He's got strong opinions, alright. And Semtex."
"Sir, stay right where you are."
"Finally--I got you attention!"
"We'll be sending around some detectives."
"Good. Just trying to do my..."
"They'll want to know how you became such a dreadful Islamophobe."
"But--but I'm trying to stop an attack..."
"That's enough, Hater! Tell it to the judge!"
*click*
("That's the fifth one today. We've really got them on the run, now!")
*ring ring*
"Terrorism Hotline..."
"Terrorism Hotline. Press one now for Arabic. Press two now for Persian. Press three..."
"English will be fine."
"How may I help you then?"
"I want to report my friend from the mosque. He's been threatening to become a suicide bomber."
"How dare you call here and insult Muslims!"
"But I am a Muslim. And this is a Terrorism Hotline!"
"Don't tell us what our job is. We are here to stop the Racist Backlash(tm)."
"What about stopping the bombings first?"
"That's not important now. First, we must prevent the Racist Backlash(tm) from terrorizing innocent Muslims."
"I am an innocent Muslim, lady, and I'm telling you this guy is gonna' blow up a lot of kids at a concert."
"I don't like the tone in your voice, sir. And speaking of, he's probably just a music critic with strong opinions."
"He's got strong opinions, alright. And Semtex."
"Sir, stay right where you are."
"Finally--I got you attention!"
"We'll be sending around some detectives."
"Good. Just trying to do my..."
"They'll want to know how you became such a dreadful Islamophobe."
"But--but I'm trying to stop an attack..."
"That's enough, Hater! Tell it to the judge!"
*click*
("That's the fifth one today. We've really got them on the run, now!")
*ring ring*
"Terrorism Hotline..."
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM (Ndje9)
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May they know every joy in life!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:10 PM (evJdV)
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Thank you, on their behalf. As Rev says, we don't have to go to the mission field. The mission field has come to us.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:10 PM (evJdV)
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Thank you, on their behalf. As Rev says, we don't have to go to the mission field. The mission field has come to us.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM (dFi94)
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
LOTS of money pouring in from Riyadh, Doha, and Dubai.
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Not apathy.
Corruption.
In other words, islam has bought the west, and is turning western governments against their citizens.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
LOTS of money pouring in from Riyadh, Doha, and Dubai.
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Not apathy.
Corruption.
In other words, islam has bought the west, and is turning western governments against their citizens.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (aT+Bx)
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The muzzies and the politicians need to be recategorized as a criminal syndicate much like the mafia and any other criminal enterprise.
Posted by: Soona at May 25, 2017 03:10 PM (Fmupd)
Embrace the power of AND
Posted by: Soona at May 25, 2017 03:10 PM (Fmupd)
Embrace the power of AND
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (i0ykY)
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I now see that GWB was not the man I wanted him to be, I was wishcasting, and I'm not so sure AlGore would have been worse. We'll never know.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (EBwPV
Seems a "Thank you, God" is in order there.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2017 03:09 PM (EBwPV
Seems a "Thank you, God" is in order there.
Posted by: Sponge at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (xttKs)
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
My theory ...
... because, just like here, they're not going to make any arrests - and sure as hell no deportations - of any racial minority on the grounds of terrorist activity against citizens until a crime is committed.
They will, however, make the move on ANY group planning violence against the government.
So ... they sell the Domestic Surveillance angle as protection for the Citizenry - but it's really protection for the State.
My theory ...
... because, just like here, they're not going to make any arrests - and sure as hell no deportations - of any racial minority on the grounds of terrorist activity against citizens until a crime is committed.
They will, however, make the move on ANY group planning violence against the government.
So ... they sell the Domestic Surveillance angle as protection for the Citizenry - but it's really protection for the State.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (tcQdP)
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"They'll want to know how you became such a dreadful Islamophobe."
"But--but I'm trying to stop an attack..."
"That's enough, Hater! Tell it to the judge!"
*click*
("That's the fifth one today. We've really got them on the run, now!")
*ring ring*
"Terrorism Hotline..."
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM (Ndje9)
Sadly that's probably not far off the reality of it
"But--but I'm trying to stop an attack..."
"That's enough, Hater! Tell it to the judge!"
*click*
("That's the fifth one today. We've really got them on the run, now!")
*ring ring*
"Terrorism Hotline..."
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM (Ndje9)
Sadly that's probably not far off the reality of it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:14 PM (493sH)
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Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM
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There was an anecdotal story re: Manchester bombing where a woman noticed someone suspicious hanging around outside; IIRC, both were women.
The woman reported it, and was promptly told off and called names.
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There was an anecdotal story re: Manchester bombing where a woman noticed someone suspicious hanging around outside; IIRC, both were women.
The woman reported it, and was promptly told off and called names.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:14 PM (aT+Bx)
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202 It is the exact same mentality they had with the Rotherham children being targeted. The "security services", cops, bureaucrats, politicals, etc do NOT care.
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
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They may care, but they care more about their continued employment and their pensions.
If they did complain?
They will be tarred as RAAAACIST BIGOTED POLICE SCUM!!!
Try getting a job in PC Britain after that. So they STFU, STFD, try to survive and do what little they can, when they can. Personally, I'd probably be a drunk, addict, or eat my gun if those were my choices.
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
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They may care, but they care more about their continued employment and their pensions.
If they did complain?
They will be tarred as RAAAACIST BIGOTED POLICE SCUM!!!
Try getting a job in PC Britain after that. So they STFU, STFD, try to survive and do what little they can, when they can. Personally, I'd probably be a drunk, addict, or eat my gun if those were my choices.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 03:15 PM (XSEwK)
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St Paul's Cathedral was rebuilt after the great fire. The Nazis also couldn't destroy. But it seems inevitable that it will get turned into a mosque.
Conveniently domed for the muzzies. Christopher Wren had to hide the plans because the puritans would go nuts over the "popish" dome, which he used anyway. Looks like it will be fitting for the muzzies like the Hagia Sophia.
Conveniently domed for the muzzies. Christopher Wren had to hide the plans because the puritans would go nuts over the "popish" dome, which he used anyway. Looks like it will be fitting for the muzzies like the Hagia Sophia.
Posted by: dagny at May 25, 2017 03:15 PM (xrSGs)
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226 Not apathy.
Corruption.
In other words, islam has bought the west, and is turning western governments against their citizens.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (aT+Bx)
And then on top of that, you've got goons like The JEF and ValJar, who'd happily do it for free.
Corruption.
In other words, islam has bought the west, and is turning western governments against their citizens.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (aT+Bx)
And then on top of that, you've got goons like The JEF and ValJar, who'd happily do it for free.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:15 PM (ULi11)
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Some day it will be necessary to outlaw Islam, to say that it isn't a religion, much like France did with Scientology. If the current rules don't and can't work, change the playing field. Posted by: GnuBreed
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It would be much easier with or current Constitution to simply not let them come over here in the first place, but I agree that at a certain point Islam is probably going to have to be recognized as some sort of group we are at war with and therefore any adherents are considered enemy of the state.
No different than if we found a cell of Nazis within our borders during WWII.
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It would be much easier with or current Constitution to simply not let them come over here in the first place, but I agree that at a certain point Islam is probably going to have to be recognized as some sort of group we are at war with and therefore any adherents are considered enemy of the state.
No different than if we found a cell of Nazis within our borders during WWII.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:16 PM (SCkw/)
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Salman
Hmmm, there's something fishy about that name.
BTW I know how salmon is spelt. And yes I knowed that's a grain and noted how spelled is spelled.
Hmmm, there's something fishy about that name.
BTW I know how salmon is spelt. And yes I knowed that's a grain and noted how spelled is spelled.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:16 PM (hJrjt)
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Sorry, but the Brits just abnormally dropped their trousers on this one.
This was obviously not the case to sweep under the rug.
I've spoken with someone who was at the concert and they mentioned the security was appalling based on our standards.
They were probably betting (wrongly) these people wouldn't be this despicable.
This was obviously not the case to sweep under the rug.
I've spoken with someone who was at the concert and they mentioned the security was appalling based on our standards.
They were probably betting (wrongly) these people wouldn't be this despicable.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:16 PM (sQgZv)
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rather distabling that I was correct, If govt agencies have an agenda those within(islam) that see and actually act courageously to stop those within their groups,, get ignored. I would like to ask the govt agencies if their personal agenda, and I would ,like to also ask if those that speak up are ignored at what cost?... I mean then the populations will accept that even the 'moderates' don't actually exist'. and how is that ida helpful to the glabal b.s?
Posted by: willow at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (iS1Cb)
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A local Mexican cartel leader (illegal) was arrested some time back.
He was a high-level guy.
A guy with several beheading orders under his belt.
And he was an exact fit for Obama's DREAM program.
Oh, and he was only caught because the po-po accidentally got word that he had ordered a hit on a police officer.
Not said: That in his time here, he had almost certainly ordered the killing and torture of Americans.
Which didn't raise an alert . . . .
He was a high-level guy.
A guy with several beheading orders under his belt.
And he was an exact fit for Obama's DREAM program.
Oh, and he was only caught because the po-po accidentally got word that he had ordered a hit on a police officer.
Not said: That in his time here, he had almost certainly ordered the killing and torture of Americans.
Which didn't raise an alert . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (ZQpd0)
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Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:12 PM (dFi94)
Well, hell, there's no point in worrying about it now, right? Is the Muslim the bride or groom?
C'est la Vie, Mazel Tov, and keep your fingers crossed. But I do that for every wedding I go to these days anyway, ya know?
Well, hell, there's no point in worrying about it now, right? Is the Muslim the bride or groom?
C'est la Vie, Mazel Tov, and keep your fingers crossed. But I do that for every wedding I go to these days anyway, ya know?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (evJdV)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (Ndje9)
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If Islam can have a mosque in Didbury, cam we please have a nice new cathedral in Tehran? And Riyadh, Istanbul, and Cairo?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (U6f54)
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fk it. I obviously cannot type again.
Posted by: willow at May 25, 2017 03:18 PM (iS1Cb)
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I like my Salman with a little butter, pepper and lemon juice.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:18 PM (sQgZv)
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I am very glad DJT is POTUS. All his craxy bullshit is worth it
I bet the folks of Manchester wish they had a Trump. He smacked all those smug NATO pricks with his dick
I am very glad DJT is POTUS. All his craxy bullshit is worth it
I bet the folks of Manchester wish they had a Trump. He smacked all those smug NATO pricks with his dick
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:18 PM (eApHj)
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244 I like my Salman with a little butter, pepper and lemon juice.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:18 PM (sQgZv)
I like planked Salman.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:18 PM (sQgZv)
I like planked Salman.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:18 PM (hJrjt)
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This is what election interference really looks like.
What The Guardian fake news journalist did and what cnn and msnbc are doing now is election interference.
This is what election interference really looks like.
What The Guardian fake news journalist did and what cnn and msnbc are doing now is election interference.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (IvAyz)
248
BTW Horde, A glorious Ascension Day to you all.
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (gbWkA)
249
Trump's Muslim ban stay was upheld, 10-3. So it wasn't even close with these cocksuckers...
Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (7uYFy)
250
Meanwhile, the court upholds Block on travel ban.
Meanwhile, the court upholds Block on travel ban.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (IvAyz)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (evJdV)
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229 So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
My theory ...
... because, just like here, they're not going to make any arrests - and sure as hell no deportations - of any racial minority on the grounds of terrorist activity against citizens until a crime is committed.
They will, however, make the move on ANY group planning violence against the government.
So ... they sell the Domestic Surveillance angle as protection for the Citizenry - but it's really protection for the State.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (tcQdP)
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This is the only idea that fits what I have seen. I unfortunately am older than 29 and remember the FBI stings and infiltrations of right wing groups that agitated against the government. Heck I think they even made TV movies about it. Yet many years later there seems to be some amnesia about exactly how to infiltrate groups with limited resources. ScoggDog your theory make perfect sense.
My theory ...
... because, just like here, they're not going to make any arrests - and sure as hell no deportations - of any racial minority on the grounds of terrorist activity against citizens until a crime is committed.
They will, however, make the move on ANY group planning violence against the government.
So ... they sell the Domestic Surveillance angle as protection for the Citizenry - but it's really protection for the State.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:13 PM (tcQdP)
_________________________________
This is the only idea that fits what I have seen. I unfortunately am older than 29 and remember the FBI stings and infiltrations of right wing groups that agitated against the government. Heck I think they even made TV movies about it. Yet many years later there seems to be some amnesia about exactly how to infiltrate groups with limited resources. ScoggDog your theory make perfect sense.
Posted by: lightning at May 25, 2017 03:20 PM (oJSnD)
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Let Love Rule
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 03:20 PM (6Ll1u)
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Trump's Muslim ban stay was upheld, 10-3. So it wasn't even close with these cocksuckers...
Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (7uYFy)
No surprise. Politics before the law
Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (7uYFy)
No surprise. Politics before the law
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:20 PM (493sH)
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The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday largely upheld a lower court ruling barring the administration from suspending visas from those countries. The Trump administration previously revised the executive order to better hold up to legal scrutiny than an earlier version did.
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Apparently, we have to let Muslims in, let them kill us, and then be even nicer to them after they do so.
Because islamophobia.
The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday largely upheld a lower court ruling barring the administration from suspending visas from those countries. The Trump administration previously revised the executive order to better hold up to legal scrutiny than an earlier version did.
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Apparently, we have to let Muslims in, let them kill us, and then be even nicer to them after they do so.
Because islamophobia.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (aT+Bx)
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sooth and they don't even do it at a point of threat, but because they are political and financial whores.
if they get what they want may all their ideas and political heads money run dry 1st.
if they get what they want may all their ideas and political heads money run dry 1st.
Posted by: willow at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (iS1Cb)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (eApHj)
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255 No surprise. Politics before the law
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:20 PM (493sH)
And Islam Uber Alles.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:20 PM (493sH)
And Islam Uber Alles.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (ULi11)
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Meanwhile, the court upholds Block on travel ban.
When The Judiciary over-reaches, you're not going to get a remedy via The Judiciary.
When The Judiciary over-reaches, you're not going to get a remedy via The Judiciary.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (tcQdP)
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So, it goes without saying: Law enforcement and the elites only care about threats if they threaten them personally.
The rest of us are acceptable losses.
The rest of us are acceptable losses.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (ZQpd0)
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Well, hell, there's no point in worrying about it now, right? Is the Muslim the bride or groom?
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Groom is muslim. I've only met him once. He seems very Westernized ( he is a foreigner) and very pleasant. My family member, the bride, is a sensible young woman so I suppose she will do as she thinks best. The only thing left for me to do is to show them both love, and to not let them babysit my grandchildren.
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Groom is muslim. I've only met him once. He seems very Westernized ( he is a foreigner) and very pleasant. My family member, the bride, is a sensible young woman so I suppose she will do as she thinks best. The only thing left for me to do is to show them both love, and to not let them babysit my grandchildren.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:22 PM (dFi94)
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239 A local Mexican cartel leader (illegal) was arrested some time back.
He was a high-level guy.
A guy with several beheading orders under his belt.
And he was an exact fit for Obama's DREAM program.
Oh, and he was only caught because the po-po accidentally got word that he had ordered a hit on a police officer.
Not said: That in his time here, he had almost certainly ordered the killing and torture of Americans.
Which didn't raise an alert . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (ZQpd0)
He sounds like a perfect fit for the University of California! When can he start?
He was a high-level guy.
A guy with several beheading orders under his belt.
And he was an exact fit for Obama's DREAM program.
Oh, and he was only caught because the po-po accidentally got word that he had ordered a hit on a police officer.
Not said: That in his time here, he had almost certainly ordered the killing and torture of Americans.
Which didn't raise an alert . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (ZQpd0)
He sounds like a perfect fit for the University of California! When can he start?
Posted by: UC Admissions Office at May 25, 2017 03:22 PM (SRKgf)
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Apparently, we have to let Muslims in, let them kill us, and then be even nicer to them after they do so.
Because islamophobia.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (aT+Bx)
When will it be islamophobic to be a corpse?
Apparently, we have to let Muslims in, let them kill us, and then be even nicer to them after they do so.
Because islamophobia.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (aT+Bx)
When will it be islamophobic to be a corpse?
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:22 PM (hJrjt)
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LOTS of money pouring in ESCAPING from Riyadh, Doha, and Dubai.
Not as bad as two years ago, when I was sure Baghdad was going to fall to ISIS. (Instead it fell to Tehran and the Shia Militias.)
Not as bad as two years ago, when I was sure Baghdad was going to fall to ISIS. (Instead it fell to Tehran and the Shia Militias.)
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 03:22 PM (XSEwK)
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Patches Kennedy, drug addict, ASSAULTED a Black WOMAN at airport on VIDEO and no Democrat demanded he leave the House.
Patches Kennedy, drug addict, ASSAULTED a Black WOMAN at airport on VIDEO and no Democrat demanded he leave the House.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 03:22 PM (IvAyz)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:22 PM (eApHj)
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so brits along with Americas (boston warnings) citizens are expendable for money.. and we know it's about money in politicals groupies pockets.
We Know it!
We Know it!
Posted by: willow at May 25, 2017 03:23 PM (iS1Cb)
Posted by: kraki at May 25, 2017 03:23 PM (TNa9O)
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I like smoked Salman.
May he forever swim up a polluted stream.
May he forever swim up a polluted stream.
Posted by: wth at May 25, 2017 03:23 PM (HgMAr)
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I'm not so sure our Supreme Court is going to side with Trump anymore despite the law clearly being on his side.
I guess we're going to become a nation where the court's only allow the President to do whatever the hell he wants when he has a (D) next to his name.
I guess we're going to become a nation where the court's only allow the President to do whatever the hell he wants when he has a (D) next to his name.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:23 PM (SCkw/)
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Just read the post, not the comments - I know, inverse HQ standard procedure - but ace, your post, despite the vague references to things like preventing massive bloodshed and not welcoming dangerous illegal immigrants, is dripping with intolerance, and discrimination.
(see how easy this is? Folks, don't be shy. You, too, can be a "jurist", be appointed to a high court in the country that made rule of law a concept in human affairs!)
(see how easy this is? Folks, don't be shy. You, too, can be a "jurist", be appointed to a high court in the country that made rule of law a concept in human affairs!)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 03:23 PM (QDnY+)
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BTW Horde, A glorious Ascension Day to you all.
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (gbWkA)
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I'm getting kind of anxious for the return trip, to tell you the truth.
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:19 PM (gbWkA)
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I'm getting kind of anxious for the return trip, to tell you the truth.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:23 PM (dFi94)
273
It is the exact same mentality they had with the Rotherham children being targeted. The "security services", cops, bureaucrats, politicals, etc do NOT care.
=====
So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
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They may care, but they care more about their continued employment and their pensions.
If they did complain?
They will be tarred as RAAAACIST BIGOTED POLICE SCUM!!!
Try getting a job in PC Britain after that. So they STFU, STFD, try to survive and do what little they can, when they can
Think about everyone who was harmed by obamacare, and how all of the people who supposedly cared about health care for all didn't give one shit.
Think about how people supposedly despise 'hate crimes' but don't care about black on white crime.
Think about all of the support given to the occupy mobs and the hatred for the tea party.
Supposedly Sweden has big problems keeping and recruiting police now.
Remember those in Maj Hasan's chain of command who admitted that he was a raging idiot and kept quiet.
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So, all of the police, politicians, intelligence officials etc in all of western europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
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They may care, but they care more about their continued employment and their pensions.
If they did complain?
They will be tarred as RAAAACIST BIGOTED POLICE SCUM!!!
Try getting a job in PC Britain after that. So they STFU, STFD, try to survive and do what little they can, when they can
Think about everyone who was harmed by obamacare, and how all of the people who supposedly cared about health care for all didn't give one shit.
Think about how people supposedly despise 'hate crimes' but don't care about black on white crime.
Think about all of the support given to the occupy mobs and the hatred for the tea party.
Supposedly Sweden has big problems keeping and recruiting police now.
Remember those in Maj Hasan's chain of command who admitted that he was a raging idiot and kept quiet.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (326rv)
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Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 25, 2017 03:17 PM (U6f54)
They kill off all the Christians before they get to any kind of number that would warrant a church, let alone an actual cathedral.
Plus, any religion aside from Islam is illegal, right?
They kill off all the Christians before they get to any kind of number that would warrant a church, let alone an actual cathedral.
Plus, any religion aside from Islam is illegal, right?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (evJdV)
275
Read the dissent in the Trump Immigration decision. It's the only part worth reading.
SCOTUS will reverse this so fast the Fourth Circuit will get whiplash.
They willfully ignored a major precedent Kleindienst v Mandel 408 U.S. 753 (1972) in order to make the most radical extension of the Establishment Clause in our history.
It's actually embarrassing.
SCOTUS will reverse this so fast the Fourth Circuit will get whiplash.
They willfully ignored a major precedent Kleindienst v Mandel 408 U.S. 753 (1972) in order to make the most radical extension of the Establishment Clause in our history.
It's actually embarrassing.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (sQgZv)
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re the Boston bombers -- Dead bro was a naturalized US citizen, and the still breathing cocksucker bro had his application held up but was in the final stage of getting his citizenship.
And even if you had these bozos under 24/7/365 surveillance, they didn't buy any guns, only a couple of pressure cookers and some fireworks. NOW this would be highly suspicious, but then?
And even if you had these bozos under 24/7/365 surveillance, they didn't buy any guns, only a couple of pressure cookers and some fireworks. NOW this would be highly suspicious, but then?
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 03:25 PM (wTwJ2)
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It's actually embarrassing.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (sQgZv)
They don't even bother putting up a decently plausible facade anymore.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (sQgZv)
They don't even bother putting up a decently plausible facade anymore.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2017 03:25 PM (AURKQ)
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When will it be islamophobic to be a corpse?
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well, since everyone in the world is now insane, I'm just waiting for the MSM to breathlessly explain that by being a victim of islamic violence, you're proving how peaceful islam is.
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well, since everyone in the world is now insane, I'm just waiting for the MSM to breathlessly explain that by being a victim of islamic violence, you're proving how peaceful islam is.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:25 PM (aT+Bx)
279
Groom is muslim. I've only met him once. He seems very Westernized ( he is a foreigner) and very pleasant. My family member, the bride, is a sensible young woman so I suppose she will do as she thinks best. The only thing left for me to do is to show them both love, and to not let them babysit my grandchildren.
Posted by: grammie winger
Does she know that if they have kids, and he suggests a vacay to his come country, she and the kids are SOL?
Posted by: grammie winger
Does she know that if they have kids, and he suggests a vacay to his come country, she and the kids are SOL?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM (326rv)
280
Will the camel back break when Musims achieve a majority and try to outlaw beer, or bacon?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM (h/uSM)
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In your dreams.
Posted by: Sonia "Wide Latina" Sotomayor at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM (gbWkA)
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260 So, it goes without saying: Law enforcement and the elites only care about threats if they threaten them personally.
The rest of us are acceptable losses.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (ZQpd0)
The answer is obvious ... get 'em more body armor. Better MRAPs. Maybe some crew-served weapons.
Lenin would be amazed ... he only thought we'd sell the rope. Even he didn't think we'd insist on an upgrade to barbed-wire.
The rest of us are acceptable losses.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:21 PM (ZQpd0)
The answer is obvious ... get 'em more body armor. Better MRAPs. Maybe some crew-served weapons.
Lenin would be amazed ... he only thought we'd sell the rope. Even he didn't think we'd insist on an upgrade to barbed-wire.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM (tcQdP)
284
The Democrats need illegals in the country to replace the future Democrat voters lost to abortion.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (MZcWR)
285
But what does the 9th circuit have to say about all this?
Posted by: Traddy at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (GSJcT)
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SCOTUS will reverse this so fast the Fourth Circuit will get whiplash.
They willfully ignored a major precedent Kleindienst v Mandel 408 U.S. 753 (1972) in order to make the most radical extension of the Establishment Clause in our history.
It's actually embarrassing.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Hope so, but we've been down this road before where we were sure the law was on our side and then either Kennedy or Roberts screws us over.
Hell, Clarence Thomas just screwed us over with redistricting, siding with the liberals it was racist the way they drew the lines.
They willfully ignored a major precedent Kleindienst v Mandel 408 U.S. 753 (1972) in order to make the most radical extension of the Establishment Clause in our history.
It's actually embarrassing.
Posted by: Marcus T
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Hope so, but we've been down this road before where we were sure the law was on our side and then either Kennedy or Roberts screws us over.
Hell, Clarence Thomas just screwed us over with redistricting, siding with the liberals it was racist the way they drew the lines.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (SCkw/)
287
"They don't even bother putting up a decently plausible facade anymore."
It should scare the crap out of everyone that on a major indisputable precedent like Kleindienst, only 3 judges dissented correctly.
It should scare the crap out of everyone that on a major indisputable precedent like Kleindienst, only 3 judges dissented correctly.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (sQgZv)
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278 When will it be islamophobic to be a corpse?
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well, since everyone in the world is now insane, I'm just waiting for the MSM to breathlessly explain that by being a victim of islamic violence, you're proving how peaceful islam is.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:25 PM (aT+Bx)
After all, "Islam" means submission, and what is a greater display of submission than having your head sawed off of your neck by a rusty scimitar?
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well, since everyone in the world is now insane, I'm just waiting for the MSM to breathlessly explain that by being a victim of islamic violence, you're proving how peaceful islam is.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:25 PM (aT+Bx)
After all, "Islam" means submission, and what is a greater display of submission than having your head sawed off of your neck by a rusty scimitar?
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (ULi11)
289
They may care, but they care more about their continued employment and their pensions.
If they did complain?
They will be tarred as RAAAACIST BIGOTED POLICE SCUM!!!
Try getting a job in PC Britain after that. So they STFU, STFD, try to survive and do what little they can, when they can
Think about everyone who was harmed by obamacare, and how all of the people who supposedly cared about health care for all didn't give one shit.
Think about how people supposedly despise 'hate crimes' but don't care about black on white crime.
Think about all of the support given to the occupy mobs and the hatred for the tea party.
Supposedly Sweden has big problems keeping and recruiting police now.
Remember those in Maj Hasan's chain of command who admitted that he was a raging idiot and kept quiet.
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so the left has won.
political correctness means that good men cannot speak out against evil.
/my condolances to those who have children.
If they did complain?
They will be tarred as RAAAACIST BIGOTED POLICE SCUM!!!
Try getting a job in PC Britain after that. So they STFU, STFD, try to survive and do what little they can, when they can
Think about everyone who was harmed by obamacare, and how all of the people who supposedly cared about health care for all didn't give one shit.
Think about how people supposedly despise 'hate crimes' but don't care about black on white crime.
Think about all of the support given to the occupy mobs and the hatred for the tea party.
Supposedly Sweden has big problems keeping and recruiting police now.
Remember those in Maj Hasan's chain of command who admitted that he was a raging idiot and kept quiet.
--
so the left has won.
political correctness means that good men cannot speak out against evil.
/my condolances to those who have children.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (aT+Bx)
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You only need a muslim population of 4 to 5 percent to totally and utterly fuck up your country
Not a majority
You only need a muslim population of 4 to 5 percent to totally and utterly fuck up your country
Not a majority
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (eApHj)
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"He seems very Westernized ( he is a foreigner) and very pleasant."
As the former co-workers of the San Bernardino jihadi spree killer also thought. Before he, y'know, coldly murdered them.
They threw parties for the guy. Thought the world of him. Spoke highly of him. Assumed their affection for him was reciprocal. Yeah, no.
As the former co-workers of the San Bernardino jihadi spree killer also thought. Before he, y'know, coldly murdered them.
They threw parties for the guy. Thought the world of him. Spoke highly of him. Assumed their affection for him was reciprocal. Yeah, no.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (ujwCG)
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I am sure that each of those five reporting subject were scolded and threatened with criminal prosecution for "inciting hatred".
Posted by: redbanzai at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (xDKH6)
293
So, it goes without saying: Law enforcement and the elites only care about threats if they threaten them personally.
The rest of us are acceptable losses.
Posted by: RoyalOil
_____
So true
If you made it a law where every refugee had to be settled in DC, you'd see a big change in public policy.
The rest of us are acceptable losses.
Posted by: RoyalOil
_____
So true
If you made it a law where every refugee had to be settled in DC, you'd see a big change in public policy.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (SCkw/)
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Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (326rv)
Why, it's almost as if there is some sort of plan in place....
Why, it's almost as if there is some sort of plan in place....
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (evJdV)
295
They willfully ignored a major precedent Kleindienst v Mandel 408 U.S. 753 (1972) in order to make the most radical extension of the Establishment Clause in our history.
It's actually embarrassing.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (sQgZv)
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More than that, they also willfully ignored the plain wording that is written right into the Constitution.
It's actually embarrassing.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (sQgZv)
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More than that, they also willfully ignored the plain wording that is written right into the Constitution.
Posted by: GOULD at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (HsCKK)
296
Now Fake News is claiming that the FBI was "duped" into scolding hillary clinton at all for the email scandal.
When Comey let off hillary clinton BUT still listed all the things she did Wrong and Illegal, it was a mistake by Comey to do so because it was a scam run by Russia.
In other words, Fake News is now insinuating that the hillary clinton email scandal was a Russian ploy.
Now Fake News is claiming that the FBI was "duped" into scolding hillary clinton at all for the email scandal.
When Comey let off hillary clinton BUT still listed all the things she did Wrong and Illegal, it was a mistake by Comey to do so because it was a scam run by Russia.
In other words, Fake News is now insinuating that the hillary clinton email scandal was a Russian ploy.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (IvAyz)
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Does she know that if they have kids, and he suggests a vacay to his come country, she and the kids are SOL?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM (326rv)
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Yep, she's been advised about that. She is adamant that any children be raised in the Christian faith, and he says he agrees ......
It's in God's hands. I'm determined to do my best to love him into the Kingdom. I keep repeating in my head the fruit of the Spirit.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM (326rv)
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Yep, she's been advised about that. She is adamant that any children be raised in the Christian faith, and he says he agrees ......
It's in God's hands. I'm determined to do my best to love him into the Kingdom. I keep repeating in my head the fruit of the Spirit.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (dFi94)
298
Until the moslums bomb Sidwell Friends, nothing will change . . . .
And they'll still blame conservatives.
And they'll still blame conservatives.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (ZQpd0)
299
Also, how do you copy and paste comments so effortlessly?
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM
Platinum level membership
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM
Platinum level membership
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (ZQfW9)
300
I call BS on his family reporting him, not with his
father and brother both being arrested for another terrorist plot and
his sister being all pro-Libya.
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (QAOZh)
Me, too. On the radio this morning, I heard his father's lawyer saying that his son wasn't a terrorist etc ad nauseum and that his brother admitted to knowing all about the plot. Sounds like the un-arrested family members had a chance to get their story straight.
father and brother both being arrested for another terrorist plot and
his sister being all pro-Libya.
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 25, 2017 02:52 PM (QAOZh)
Me, too. On the radio this morning, I heard his father's lawyer saying that his son wasn't a terrorist etc ad nauseum and that his brother admitted to knowing all about the plot. Sounds like the un-arrested family members had a chance to get their story straight.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 25, 2017 03:30 PM (fxCK2)
301
The Democrats need illegals in the country to replace the future Democrat voters lost to abortion.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (MZcWR)
..........
Succinct.
Concise.
In a nutshell.
Pithy.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (MZcWR)
..........
Succinct.
Concise.
In a nutshell.
Pithy.
Posted by: wth at May 25, 2017 03:30 PM (HgMAr)
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Supposedly PM of England made Trump apologize for the US intelligence agencies leaking details of the attackers status on watch list.
As if they are responding to Trump either.
.
As if they are responding to Trump either.
.
Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 03:30 PM (xVRrG)
303
They threw parties for the guy. Thought the world of
him. Spoke highly of him. Assumed their affection for him was
reciprocal. Yeah, no.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (ujwCG)
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What can I do though? It's not like I can physically block her from marrying him. BTW, we've had another muslim in our family for nine years, and I love her to pieces. She's female though so that might make a difference.
him. Spoke highly of him. Assumed their affection for him was
reciprocal. Yeah, no.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (ujwCG)
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What can I do though? It's not like I can physically block her from marrying him. BTW, we've had another muslim in our family for nine years, and I love her to pieces. She's female though so that might make a difference.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (dFi94)
304
He had all these friends. But he was "isolated".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (vRcUp)
305
Also, how do you copy and paste comments so effortlessly?
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM
Platinum level membership
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (ZQfW9)
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He's joshing.
Use Microsoft Word.
REALLY speeds things up.
Posted by: Strobe at May 25, 2017 03:26 PM
Platinum level membership
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (ZQfW9)
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He's joshing.
Use Microsoft Word.
REALLY speeds things up.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (8XRCm)
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"Supposedly Sweden has big problems keeping and recruiting police now."
Thinking here of the infamous video showing not one, not two, but three little Swedish policewomen all trying simultaneously, and failing, to get *one* Muslim male immigrant arsonist under control and into cuffs.
You have to imagine that videos like this get heavy play on smartphones all through the Islamic ummah. Hey, Achmed, let's head for Sweden! Easy pickings! Soft cops!
Thinking here of the infamous video showing not one, not two, but three little Swedish policewomen all trying simultaneously, and failing, to get *one* Muslim male immigrant arsonist under control and into cuffs.
You have to imagine that videos like this get heavy play on smartphones all through the Islamic ummah. Hey, Achmed, let's head for Sweden! Easy pickings! Soft cops!
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (ujwCG)
307
298 Until the moslums bomb Sidwell Friends, nothing will change . . . .
And they'll still blame conservatives.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (ZQpd0)
Harvard.
It's going to have to be Harvard.
At least of 90% of Swamp Creatures come from Harvard.
And they'll still blame conservatives.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (ZQpd0)
Harvard.
It's going to have to be Harvard.
At least of 90% of Swamp Creatures come from Harvard.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (ULi11)
308
Westernized muslims only seem westernized. After the wedding, the hijab and the lash come out. Within a year, she will barely communicate with the family because he will control that. Within two, odds are they are in the home country and she will be prevented from leaving, especially if they have children.
Posted by: grognard at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (6Wprx)
309
In the aftermath of 9/11, weren't there all these stories that the Muslim community was working with the FBI but these stories were later debunked and if anything, the domestic Muslim community was downright hostile to any sort of intel sharing?
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (SCkw/)
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My phone doesn't let me copy and paste, but it does let me watch pron
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (6Ll1u)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (eApHj)
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Seems like the only thing left to do is to totally shut down ALL immigration. Period. No discrimination there, all foreigners are now equally worthless.
Seems like the only thing left to do is to totally shut down ALL immigration. Period. No discrimination there, all foreigners are now equally worthless.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (XWkhW)
313
It should scare the crap out of everyone that on a major indisputable precedent like Kleindienst, only 3 judges dissented correctly.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (sQgZv)
Marcus ... you just don't get it.
Law don't mean shit. That's just words on paper.
The name of the game is Power ... and who has the Will to use it.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (sQgZv)
Marcus ... you just don't get it.
Law don't mean shit. That's just words on paper.
The name of the game is Power ... and who has the Will to use it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (tcQdP)
314
Someone here suggested the other day that any mosque whose member(s) commit terrorist acts should be leveled to the ground.
Rinse repeat.
You harbor 'splody jihadis? Your mosque will cease to exist.
I totally support this idea.
Rinse repeat.
You harbor 'splody jihadis? Your mosque will cease to exist.
I totally support this idea.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (PY9jH)
315
Use Microsoft Word.
REALLY speeds things up.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (8XRCm)
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Don't do it !!!!!
REALLY speeds things up.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (8XRCm)
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Don't do it !!!!!
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (dFi94)
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grammie:
is the potential groom sunni, shia or something else?
i know two 'something else' muslims who are fine.
is the potential groom sunni, shia or something else?
i know two 'something else' muslims who are fine.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:33 PM (aT+Bx)
317
Yep, she's been advised about that. She is adamant that any children be raised in the Christian faith, and he says he agrees ......
Bwahahahahahahaha.
Sorry.
Bwahahahahahahaha.
Bwahahahahahahaha.
Sorry.
Bwahahahahahahaha.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:33 PM (4BGeF)
318
In the UK only about 30% of ALL muslims said they would inform on a fellow muslim
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:33 PM (eApHj)
319
309 In the aftermath of 9/11, weren't there all these stories that the Muslim community was working with the FBI but these stories were later debunked and if anything, the domestic Muslim community was downright hostile to any sort of intel sharing?
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (SCkw/)
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Remember how candidate Trump was raked over the coals for daring to say that Muslims in America were seen celebrating on 9/11?
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (SCkw/)
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Remember how candidate Trump was raked over the coals for daring to say that Muslims in America were seen celebrating on 9/11?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (vg8iE)
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309 In the aftermath of 9/11, weren't there all these stories that the Muslim community was working with the FBI but these stories were later debunked and if anything, the domestic Muslim community was downright hostile to any sort of intel sharing?
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (SCkw/)
Well since there were no further attacks during the next eight years I'd assume that either they were cooperating or we had infiltrated a number of mosques.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (SCkw/)
Well since there were no further attacks during the next eight years I'd assume that either they were cooperating or we had infiltrated a number of mosques.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (czLDv)
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My fucking gawd now another court upholds lawless judges. Incredible, sad news predictable. They have to be reigned in, just getting scotus to even reverse is not bough now. Even some lives laughed about this ord per but these idiots on twitter defended it and liked the idea of him being held to campaign vowels, not content of order or the people fact that it's not a Muslim ban even, and one woman said The rule of law won!
They usurped presidential powers and agree that we cannot do something nobody not one person should argue over.
Do libs realize they are destroying their country too, not only over this issue but on legal laws and reliability of that?
It's just sad.
They usurped presidential powers and agree that we cannot do something nobody not one person should argue over.
Do libs realize they are destroying their country too, not only over this issue but on legal laws and reliability of that?
It's just sad.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (idhyN)
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276 re the Boston bombers -- Dead bro was a naturalized US citizen, and the still breathing cocksucker bro had his application held up but was in the final stage of getting his citizenship.
And even if you had these bozos under 24/7/365 surveillance, they didn't buy any guns, only a couple of pressure cookers and some fireworks. NOW this would be highly suspicious, but then?
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 03:25 PM (wTwJ2)
True enough, but apparently the FBI didn't do shit. You'd think that a heads up from the Russians would warrant some serious investigation, e.g., talking to friends and neighbors, interviewing the two hairballs, etc. but they didn't do that.
And citizenship don't mean shit regarding loyalties. The Rosenbergs were American citizens, as is that cocksucker Soros.
And even if you had these bozos under 24/7/365 surveillance, they didn't buy any guns, only a couple of pressure cookers and some fireworks. NOW this would be highly suspicious, but then?
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 03:25 PM (wTwJ2)
True enough, but apparently the FBI didn't do shit. You'd think that a heads up from the Russians would warrant some serious investigation, e.g., talking to friends and neighbors, interviewing the two hairballs, etc. but they didn't do that.
And citizenship don't mean shit regarding loyalties. The Rosenbergs were American citizens, as is that cocksucker Soros.
Posted by: UC Admissions Office at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (SRKgf)
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grammie:
is the potential groom sunni, shia or something else?
i know two 'something else' muslims who are fine.
Posted by: shibumi
Sunni, shia, or apostate. Those are your choices.
is the potential groom sunni, shia or something else?
i know two 'something else' muslims who are fine.
Posted by: shibumi
Sunni, shia, or apostate. Those are your choices.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (4BGeF)
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"What can I do though?"
I'd maintain a discreet distance (as you've already suggested you plan to do). I'd also start the internal process of emotional separation from the family member who's marrying the guy.
I've seen trouble coming with certain extended family members' life choices (not due to marrying Muslims, but other examples of poor decision making). It makes things easier in the long run if one has already quietly cut the ties to them before stuff goes really badly wrong.
I'd maintain a discreet distance (as you've already suggested you plan to do). I'd also start the internal process of emotional separation from the family member who's marrying the guy.
I've seen trouble coming with certain extended family members' life choices (not due to marrying Muslims, but other examples of poor decision making). It makes things easier in the long run if one has already quietly cut the ties to them before stuff goes really badly wrong.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (ujwCG)
325
313 It should scare the crap out of everyone that on a major indisputable precedent like Kleindienst, only 3 judges dissented correctly.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (sQgZv)
Marcus ... you just don't get it.
Law don't mean shit. That's just words on paper.
The name of the game is Power ... and who has the Will to use it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (tcQdP)
The GOPe has willingly because The Last Man to the Demoncrats' Ubermensch.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (sQgZv)
Marcus ... you just don't get it.
Law don't mean shit. That's just words on paper.
The name of the game is Power ... and who has the Will to use it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:32 PM (tcQdP)
The GOPe has willingly because The Last Man to the Demoncrats' Ubermensch.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (ULi11)
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is the potential groom sunni, shia or something else?
i know two 'something else' muslims who are fine.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:33 PM (aT+Bx)
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I really don't know. I should find out. Maybe I could look up his country of origin and find out.
i know two 'something else' muslims who are fine.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:33 PM (aT+Bx)
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I really don't know. I should find out. Maybe I could look up his country of origin and find out.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (dFi94)
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Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (326rv)
Why, it's almost as if there is some sort of plan in place....
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
Occams razor suggests otherwise.
Most police are lazy, and in their words, "want to come home safe tonight".
Think upon how often cops are content to clean up bodies afterward rather than respond Columbine comes to mind.
And how 40 years ago, The DC police fought three rape victims in the Supreme Court and won, because they didn't bother to respond.
Now add to that the same self-serving attitude magnified in civil authority.
To that, add political correctness, and the substitution of platitudes for actual thought.
Today's situation becomes obvious.
Why, it's almost as if there is some sort of plan in place....
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
Occams razor suggests otherwise.
Most police are lazy, and in their words, "want to come home safe tonight".
Think upon how often cops are content to clean up bodies afterward rather than respond Columbine comes to mind.
And how 40 years ago, The DC police fought three rape victims in the Supreme Court and won, because they didn't bother to respond.
Now add to that the same self-serving attitude magnified in civil authority.
To that, add political correctness, and the substitution of platitudes for actual thought.
Today's situation becomes obvious.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (326rv)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (eApHj)
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"313 It should scare the crap out of everyone that on a major indisputable precedent like Kleindienst, only 3 judges dissented correctly.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (sQgZv)
Marcus ... you just don't get it.
Law don't mean shit. That's just words on paper.
The name of the game is Power ... and who has the Will to use it."
This is the judicial equivalent of dropping your pants and wagging your dick at SCOTUS.
Kleindienst is a SCOTUS precedent and they didn't even consider it. I just don't see how this stands.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (sQgZv)
Marcus ... you just don't get it.
Law don't mean shit. That's just words on paper.
The name of the game is Power ... and who has the Will to use it."
This is the judicial equivalent of dropping your pants and wagging your dick at SCOTUS.
Kleindienst is a SCOTUS precedent and they didn't even consider it. I just don't see how this stands.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (sQgZv)
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ScoggDog with a key reminder: "When The Judiciary over-reaches, you're not going to get a remedy via The Judiciary."
It's not that this is easy. It's simply reached the point where there is no real option.
Legal types - even say a Jeff Sessions - appear literally unable to process or deal with the situation we're in. Which has been evolving, didn't happen overnight. But it's reached the break-point with this ludicrous wave of lawlessness by the "courts" on the admissions EO. But I don't think almost any legal types can even think straight about this, because they can't step back and see the whole framework is gone. Lawless courts that exceed their authority, legislate, usurp constitutional powers - can only be stopped by repudiation, not by working "within the system" they themselves have destroyed.
Staffing the judiciary with law-abiding, constitutionally-minded people is not a solution - it's damn good expedient, to be sure, so do it, but no solution.
And I don't know what the solution is. It's the reverse of the situation we've faced when we confront societies/political cultures (most of them) overseas where we really want/need some rule of law to be established - where do you start? How do you create that mindset, which is the key ingredient? Integrity - how does it come about?
Here, we had the best system ever seen (imperfect, but best) - and now we're losing it. How do you *restore* integrity to a system when it's been discarded?
In the short term, repudiation, or putting SCOTUS on the spot, seems best. I don't think even Bryer or Ginsberg are ready to really go all-in, and declare the courts free of all law, the constitution, and common sense - not in this brazen a manner (the absurd rulings on the admissions EO). I think they'll blink. Yeah, one could say winning at SCOTUS is still working within the system. But, as noted, "short term" response to the collapse of the judiciary and constitutional system.
It's not that this is easy. It's simply reached the point where there is no real option.
Legal types - even say a Jeff Sessions - appear literally unable to process or deal with the situation we're in. Which has been evolving, didn't happen overnight. But it's reached the break-point with this ludicrous wave of lawlessness by the "courts" on the admissions EO. But I don't think almost any legal types can even think straight about this, because they can't step back and see the whole framework is gone. Lawless courts that exceed their authority, legislate, usurp constitutional powers - can only be stopped by repudiation, not by working "within the system" they themselves have destroyed.
Staffing the judiciary with law-abiding, constitutionally-minded people is not a solution - it's damn good expedient, to be sure, so do it, but no solution.
And I don't know what the solution is. It's the reverse of the situation we've faced when we confront societies/political cultures (most of them) overseas where we really want/need some rule of law to be established - where do you start? How do you create that mindset, which is the key ingredient? Integrity - how does it come about?
Here, we had the best system ever seen (imperfect, but best) - and now we're losing it. How do you *restore* integrity to a system when it's been discarded?
In the short term, repudiation, or putting SCOTUS on the spot, seems best. I don't think even Bryer or Ginsberg are ready to really go all-in, and declare the courts free of all law, the constitution, and common sense - not in this brazen a manner (the absurd rulings on the admissions EO). I think they'll blink. Yeah, one could say winning at SCOTUS is still working within the system. But, as noted, "short term" response to the collapse of the judiciary and constitutional system.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (QDnY+)
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so the left has won.
political correctness means that good men cannot speak out against evil.
/my condolances to those who have children.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (aT+Bx)
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The leftists won in November 2012. I've said this several times. If anyone thinks that we're going to vote our way out of this mess, I've got an old bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. The Constitution is moot. It no longer governs us.
so the left has won.
political correctness means that good men cannot speak out against evil.
/my condolances to those who have children.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:27 PM (aT+Bx)
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The leftists won in November 2012. I've said this several times. If anyone thinks that we're going to vote our way out of this mess, I've got an old bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. The Constitution is moot. It no longer governs us.
Posted by: Soona at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (Fmupd)
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I'm not sure all of these claims are true -- it could be pro-Islamist agitators making claims to exonerate the Libyan community in Manchester.
That would work, wouldn't it? Islamists exonerating themselves by accusing English police of being negligent, useless shits. But the police would never be held accountable anyway.
Win/win!
That would work, wouldn't it? Islamists exonerating themselves by accusing English police of being negligent, useless shits. But the police would never be held accountable anyway.
Win/win!
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (vRcUp)
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"Until the moslums bomb Sidwell Friends, nothing will change . . . ."
Consider this line stolen and to be shared with the world.
Consider this line stolen and to be shared with the world.
Posted by: Jaws at May 25, 2017 03:36 PM (oOw3I)
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Seems like the only thing left to do is to totally shut down ALL immigration. Period. No discrimination there, all foreigners are now equally worthless.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Oh no, the country would die!!!
Seems like the only thing left to do is to totally shut down ALL immigration. Period. No discrimination there, all foreigners are now equally worthless.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Oh no, the country would die!!!
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at May 25, 2017 03:36 PM (IqV8l)
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311. I mentioned it here just the other day - Russian Federation has between 10 to 15% Muslim population. With the exception of the now-crushed terror campaign stirred up by wahabi foreigners, Russia has not had much trouble from its indigenous Muslim population. They're doing something right.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 03:36 PM (TwwWO)
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Ace, your broad strategy is in line with the Italian way of approaching counterterrorism. We need to take a page from their book. The Italians place an emphasis on not allowing undesirable people into their country to begin with. From this initially smaller pool, anyone suspected of radical sympathies has their records gone through and are deported for minor, sometimes petty things. "Oh, you didn't cross the T or dot the I on this immigration form? Looks like we can deport you." Any remaining radicals are (relatively) small enough in number that they can be surveilled 24-7, or close to it.
Posted by: Robert Wargas at May 25, 2017 03:36 PM (8uCXp)
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The reason they aren't taking down these known wolves is because it gives them the excuse to agitate for an ever expanding security state and apparatus.
The we wouldn't need this massive security state and apparatus if we weren't inviting the scorpion into the house.
Islam is incompatible with western democracies, Muslim immigration should be severely curtailed or eliminated.
The we wouldn't need this massive security state and apparatus if we weren't inviting the scorpion into the house.
Islam is incompatible with western democracies, Muslim immigration should be severely curtailed or eliminated.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 25, 2017 03:36 PM (v6+0D)
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Sunni, shia, or apostate. Those are your choices.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (4BGeF)
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I know he's not apostate, because he explained all the ins and outs of Ramadan to us, and told us how he'll plan his eating schedule come this Saturday.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (4BGeF)
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I know he's not apostate, because he explained all the ins and outs of Ramadan to us, and told us how he'll plan his eating schedule come this Saturday.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (dFi94)
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I'm getting kind of anxious for the return trip, to tell you the truth.
Posted by: grammie winger
Good news: He's coming back!
Bad news: He's pretty pissed off.
Posted by: grammie winger
Good news: He's coming back!
Bad news: He's pretty pissed off.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (HTdUD)
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So I think I have the victim hierarchy mapped out, though it's ever in flux. It's currently something like:
Trans and other gender abominations > Islam > Immigrants (which includes Muslims, of course) > Gay > Black > Non-Immigrant Hispanic > Women > Delta Smelt > E. Coli > White > Male.
That about right?
Trans and other gender abominations > Islam > Immigrants (which includes Muslims, of course) > Gay > Black > Non-Immigrant Hispanic > Women > Delta Smelt > E. Coli > White > Male.
That about right?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)
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291 "He seems very Westernized ( he is a foreigner) and very pleasant."
As the former co-workers of the San Bernardino jihadi spree killer also thought. Before he, y'know, coldly murdered them.
They threw parties for the guy. Thought the world of him. Spoke highly of him. Assumed their affection for him was reciprocal. Yeah, no.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (ujwCG)
This.
Everybody's pleasant and peaceful. Until they aren't.
As the former co-workers of the San Bernardino jihadi spree killer also thought. Before he, y'know, coldly murdered them.
They threw parties for the guy. Thought the world of him. Spoke highly of him. Assumed their affection for him was reciprocal. Yeah, no.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 03:28 PM (ujwCG)
This.
Everybody's pleasant and peaceful. Until they aren't.
Posted by: UC Admissions Office at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (SRKgf)
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Sooth beat me, but the 4th Circuit Court upheld the injunction on Trump's travel ban EO.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (YMLsE)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (eApHj)
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Trans and other gender abominations > Islam > Immigrants (which includes Muslims, of course) > Gay > Black > Non-Immigrant Hispanic > Women > Delta Smelt > E. Coli > White > Male.
That about right?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)
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Add "bald" at the end, one more subgroup and youre perfect.
That about right?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)
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Add "bald" at the end, one more subgroup and youre perfect.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (8XRCm)
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335:
I heard that when they have an incident they go find extended family and/or associates and erase them. Chance of that happening here is between when hell freezes over and Nancy Pelosi saying something intelligent.
I heard that when they have an incident they go find extended family and/or associates and erase them. Chance of that happening here is between when hell freezes over and Nancy Pelosi saying something intelligent.
Posted by: lightning at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (oJSnD)
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Well since there were no further attacks during the next eight years I'd assume that either they were cooperating or we had infiltrated a number of mosques.
Posted by: Jack Sock
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I don't think you can draw that conclusion at all.
We had very few Islamic attacks on US soil before 9/11? Was that because of law enforcement?
Posted by: Jack Sock
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I don't think you can draw that conclusion at all.
We had very few Islamic attacks on US soil before 9/11? Was that because of law enforcement?
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (SCkw/)
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I really don't know. I should find out. Maybe I could look up his country of origin and find out.
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I worked with a turk who was very lax about his brand of islam, and a sufi.
Both seemed ok.
Also... find out of he drinks alcohol. To a certain extent, that is a bit of a tell.
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I worked with a turk who was very lax about his brand of islam, and a sufi.
Both seemed ok.
Also... find out of he drinks alcohol. To a certain extent, that is a bit of a tell.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (aT+Bx)
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He's joshing.
Use Microsoft Word.
REALLY speeds things up.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (8XRCm)
............
Also, be sure to let us know if you need any dating or marriage advice.
Use Microsoft Word.
REALLY speeds things up.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:31 PM (8XRCm)
............
Also, be sure to let us know if you need any dating or marriage advice.
Posted by: wth at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (HgMAr)
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"Until the moslums bomb Sidwell Friends, nothing will change . . . ."
I'm hoping for the Academy Awards, and/or the editorial offices of the NYT.
I'm hoping for the Academy Awards, and/or the editorial offices of the NYT.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (SRKgf)
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Trans and other gender abominations > Islam > Immigrants (which includes Muslims, of course) > Gay > Black > Non-Immigrant Hispanic > Women > Delta Smelt > E. Coli > White > Male > Christian.
That about right?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)
Fixed.
That about right?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)
Fixed.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 03:39 PM (YMLsE)
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Do libs realize they are destroying their country too, not only over this issue but on legal laws and reliability of that?
It's just sad.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (idhyN)
Destruction is the point. Leftists don't really believe all that bullshit about building their utopian paradise. They literally DON'T CARE what happens after the bloodletting is over, as long as they get the chance to shoot a few kneeling Kulaks in the back of the neck.
That's why Leftist slobber all over the mohammedans. They share the same goal of the destruction of Western Civilization. The difference is, mohammedans have a plan for what comes afterwards.
*I'll bet y'all are sick of me repeating myself again and again with this rant......well, poo to you with knobs on!*
Do libs realize they are destroying their country too, not only over this issue but on legal laws and reliability of that?
It's just sad.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 03:34 PM (idhyN)
Destruction is the point. Leftists don't really believe all that bullshit about building their utopian paradise. They literally DON'T CARE what happens after the bloodletting is over, as long as they get the chance to shoot a few kneeling Kulaks in the back of the neck.
That's why Leftist slobber all over the mohammedans. They share the same goal of the destruction of Western Civilization. The difference is, mohammedans have a plan for what comes afterwards.
*I'll bet y'all are sick of me repeating myself again and again with this rant......well, poo to you with knobs on!*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2017 03:39 PM (XWkhW)
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Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:29 PM (dFi94)
That's all you can do, miss grammy. She has been warned and now the chips will have to fall where they may.
I will tell you that if he is just a regular ol' Muslim, he will be fine. What's his ethnicity?
That's all you can do, miss grammy. She has been warned and now the chips will have to fall where they may.
I will tell you that if he is just a regular ol' Muslim, he will be fine. What's his ethnicity?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:39 PM (evJdV)
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Also... find out of he drinks alcohol. To a certain extent, that is a bit of a tell.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (aT+Bx)
The 9/11 hijackers drank like fish and hung out in strip clubs, so it may not be that reliable a tell.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (aT+Bx)
The 9/11 hijackers drank like fish and hung out in strip clubs, so it may not be that reliable a tell.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 03:39 PM (SRKgf)
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343. Bomber was a Kazakh, which was weird in itself, as there really isn't much of that sort of thing in Kazakhstan.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (TwwWO)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (4BGeF)
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Regarding the Platinum Membership. Just send $500 to my PayPal and I'll take care of it for you.
You can trust me.
You can trust me.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (sQgZv)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (eApHj)
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340 So I think I have the victim hierarchy mapped out, though it's ever in flux. It's currently something like:
Trans and other gender abominations > Islam > Immigrants (which includes Muslims, of course) > Gay > Black > Non-Immigrant Hispanic > Women > Delta Smelt > E. Coli > White > Male.
That about right?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)
Islam outranks Trans.
If a Muslim murdered a M->F tranny, the media would still side with the Muslim.
Trans and other gender abominations > Islam > Immigrants (which includes Muslims, of course) > Gay > Black > Non-Immigrant Hispanic > Women > Delta Smelt > E. Coli > White > Male.
That about right?
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (oZ6kz)
Islam outranks Trans.
If a Muslim murdered a M->F tranny, the media would still side with the Muslim.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (ULi11)
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for the most part, the government is on their side. they've made their choice.
Posted by: Flying Allende Brothers at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (nFwvY)
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That about right?
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i'd say Muslim first.
They pander to the gender weirdness, but the all the painful bending over is for muslims.
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i'd say Muslim first.
They pander to the gender weirdness, but the all the painful bending over is for muslims.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (aT+Bx)
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"Add "bald" at the end, one more subgroup and youre perfect.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (8XRCm)"Also shit, they're gonna kick me out of the International Jewish Conspiracy because I forgot Jews! >_< Well needless to say we're above generic icky white people and especially white Christian men, but I think every other victim group is currently above them in the hierarchy. Same with Asians - you know, any of the minority communities that are actually thriving.(Gays being the exception - even though they earn on average slightly more than straight people, they're still super duper oppressed because reasons.)
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (8XRCm)"Also shit, they're gonna kick me out of the International Jewish Conspiracy because I forgot Jews! >_< Well needless to say we're above generic icky white people and especially white Christian men, but I think every other victim group is currently above them in the hierarchy. Same with Asians - you know, any of the minority communities that are actually thriving.(Gays being the exception - even though they earn on average slightly more than straight people, they're still super duper oppressed because reasons.)
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (oZ6kz)
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If a Muslim murdered a M->F tranny, the media would still side with the Muslim.
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See Pulse Night Club for further reference.
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See Pulse Night Club for further reference.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (vg8iE)
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Also... find out of he drinks alcohol. To a certain extent, that is a bit of a tell.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (aT+Bx)
The 9/11 hijackers drank like fish and hung out in strip clubs, so it may not be that reliable a tell.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Two tells.
Hand him a ham sandwich.
Point an extremist at him and tell the extremist he is an apostate.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (aT+Bx)
The 9/11 hijackers drank like fish and hung out in strip clubs, so it may not be that reliable a tell.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Two tells.
Hand him a ham sandwich.
Point an extremist at him and tell the extremist he is an apostate.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (4BGeF)
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"...Do libs realize they are destroying their country too, not only over this issue but on legal laws and reliability of that?"
Posted by: Me
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Yeas and feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Me
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Yeas and feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (m3iiU)
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We had very few Islamic attacks on US soil before 9/11? Was that because of law enforcement?
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (SCkw/)
Yeah, we had a lot of catching up to do to catch up to Europe. They're so sophisticated there! /liberal shitheads everywhere insisting on roundabouts, bike paths, and soccer
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (SCkw/)
Yeah, we had a lot of catching up to do to catch up to Europe. They're so sophisticated there! /liberal shitheads everywhere insisting on roundabouts, bike paths, and soccer
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (eApHj)
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Russia just had a big terrorist attack in St Petersburg, about 3 to 4 months ago
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (eApHj)
Was the response candle light vigils, flowers and crying or did they try to hunt the savages down?
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (eApHj)
Was the response candle light vigils, flowers and crying or did they try to hunt the savages down?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (493sH)
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I worked with a turk who was very lax about his brand of islam, and a sufi.
Both seemed ok.
Also... find out of he drinks alcohol. To a certain extent, that is a bit of a tell.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (aT+Bx)
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I looked up his country. They are 60% Sunni and 30% unaffiliated Muslims. I imagine that means non-observant, not sure. Yes, he does drink wine and beer. Nothing hard.
Both seemed ok.
Also... find out of he drinks alcohol. To a certain extent, that is a bit of a tell.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (aT+Bx)
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I looked up his country. They are 60% Sunni and 30% unaffiliated Muslims. I imagine that means non-observant, not sure. Yes, he does drink wine and beer. Nothing hard.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (dFi94)
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366. In fairness, though, who doesn't?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (TwwWO)
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If a Muslim murdered a M->F tranny, the media would still side with the Muslim.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (ULi11)
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See also Pulse Nightclub.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (ULi11)
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See also Pulse Nightclub.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (8XRCm)
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Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:37 PM (dFi94)
Eh, they all pretty much celebrate Ramadan. Not a big deal.
Does he drink booze?
Eh, they all pretty much celebrate Ramadan. Not a big deal.
Does he drink booze?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (evJdV)
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The Second City Cop blog has written many posts about policing, and "staying fetal" which is their way of saying no more proactive police work.
Don't stop and frisk (not allowed today anyway) don't cultivate sources and try to prevent crime. Why? Because the political establishment will sell you out to the community activists and BLM losers every time. That officer in Ferguson Mo comes to mind.
In Chgo neither the mayor or the various police chiefs will back up their officers, and the force itself is down 2,000 officers from years past. It's dangerous out there for everybody.
Don't stop and frisk (not allowed today anyway) don't cultivate sources and try to prevent crime. Why? Because the political establishment will sell you out to the community activists and BLM losers every time. That officer in Ferguson Mo comes to mind.
In Chgo neither the mayor or the various police chiefs will back up their officers, and the force itself is down 2,000 officers from years past. It's dangerous out there for everybody.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (EBwPV)
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If a Muslim murdered a M->F tranny, the media would still side with the Muslim.
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See Pulse Night Club for further reference.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (vg8iE)
And the fruits were in the streets blaming conservatives for the climate of hate
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See Pulse Night Club for further reference.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (vg8iE)
And the fruits were in the streets blaming conservatives for the climate of hate
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (493sH)
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THEN WHO WAS NOTIFIED?
Posted by: Sensitive new age guy at May 25, 2017 03:43 PM (271Y5)
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362 If a Muslim murdered a M->F tranny, the media would still side with the Muslim.
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See Pulse Night Club for further reference.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (vg8iE)
And they would certainly not blame Islam.
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See Pulse Night Club for further reference.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (vg8iE)
And they would certainly not blame Islam.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:43 PM (hJrjt)
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So who went to the harvest festival and listened to the music? Greg Laurie is not less than awesome.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 03:43 PM (6Ll1u)
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House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz said today that the FBI had decided to withhold documents requested by his committee in regards to the ongoing Russia probe. This was revealed in a letter sent by Chaffetz to the FBI responding to the agency's decision to withhold documents requested by the Committee on May 16, 2017.
Posted by: undocumented SMOD at May 25, 2017 03:43 PM (e8kgV)
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This is the judicial equivalent of dropping your pants and wagging your dick at SCOTUS.
Kleindienst is a SCOTUS precedent and they didn't even consider it. I just don't see how this stands.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (sQgZv)
Whether it stands or falls has nothing to do with Law ... and everything to do with the court's opinion of Trump's viability over the rest of his term.
Read rhomboid at 330. His explaination is much nicer than mine will be.
Kleindienst is a SCOTUS precedent and they didn't even consider it. I just don't see how this stands.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:35 PM (sQgZv)
Whether it stands or falls has nothing to do with Law ... and everything to do with the court's opinion of Trump's viability over the rest of his term.
Read rhomboid at 330. His explaination is much nicer than mine will be.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:43 PM (tcQdP)
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And the fruits were in the streets blaming conservatives for the climate of hate
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (493sH)
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That's one climate that doesn't change in their world.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 03:42 PM (493sH)
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That's one climate that doesn't change in their world.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:43 PM (vg8iE)
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It is Western "Law Enforcement" who enable this swill. If they and their families start to pay the price, things will change pretty damn quickly. Until then, however, they'll be nothing more than Rove Republicans with all the usual character traits associated therewith:
No morals.
No principles.
No scruples.
No honor.
They will do whatever they are damn well told, as long as that paycheck keeps comin' in. And the Deep State will continue to tell them that Ragheads stand atop the Preferred Species ladder.
No morals.
No principles.
No scruples.
No honor.
They will do whatever they are damn well told, as long as that paycheck keeps comin' in. And the Deep State will continue to tell them that Ragheads stand atop the Preferred Species ladder.
Posted by: Mark Matis at May 25, 2017 03:43 PM (3L7nU)
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:44 PM (8XRCm)
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366 Manchester Bomber liked weed and vodka
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (eApHj)
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9/11 hijackers drank and went to strip clubs.
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (eApHj)
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9/11 hijackers drank and went to strip clubs.
Posted by: Boots at May 25, 2017 03:44 PM (EBwPV)
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"Now Fake News is claiming that the FBI was "duped" into scolding hillary clinton at all for the email scandal."
This is actually a key thing. One of the leaked e-mails was Debbie Wasserman Schultz telling an outside group not to worry, that Lynch would keep the Hillary investigation controlled.
Virtually ignored at the time (when it was a bombshell), it's now being said to have been faked by the Russians and to have led Comey astray.
The plot thickens ...
This is actually a key thing. One of the leaked e-mails was Debbie Wasserman Schultz telling an outside group not to worry, that Lynch would keep the Hillary investigation controlled.
Virtually ignored at the time (when it was a bombshell), it's now being said to have been faked by the Russians and to have led Comey astray.
The plot thickens ...
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 03:44 PM (+7/1f)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:44 PM (eApHj)
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Have his parents been asked, "he seems a bit ungrateful, seeing as how you were given asylum in this country, huh?"
If a bleeding, sickly Jeffrey Dahmer appeared on your doorstep, asking to be let in, you have no obligation to do so. If you were feeling really compassionate, you could rent him a room at a holliday inn across town, but you are not obligated to endanger your family by letting him in your house.
If a bleeding, sickly Jeffrey Dahmer appeared on your doorstep, asking to be let in, you have no obligation to do so. If you were feeling really compassionate, you could rent him a room at a holliday inn across town, but you are not obligated to endanger your family by letting him in your house.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 25, 2017 03:44 PM (vRcUp)
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What's his ethnicity?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:39 PM (evJdV)
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I'm not sure. He is very light skinned and is from Casablanca. He seems very Mediterranean but I guess that's considered North Africa.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:39 PM (evJdV)
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I'm not sure. He is very light skinned and is from Casablanca. He seems very Mediterranean but I guess that's considered North Africa.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (dFi94)
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House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz said today that the FBI had decided to withhold documents requested by his committee in regards to the ongoing Russia probe. This was revealed in a letter sent by Chaffetz to the FBI responding to the agency's decision to withhold documents requested by the Committee on May 16, 2017.
Posted by: undocumented SMOD at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (e8kgV)
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310 My phone doesn't let me copy and paste, but it does let me watch pron
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
A man's got to know his limitations.
*alternate genders too*
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
A man's got to know his limitations.
*alternate genders too*
Posted by: Dirty, Dirty Harry at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (wTwJ2)
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366
Manchester Bomber liked weed and vodka
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (eApHj)
And Joker Tsarnaev was a pothead, too.
Once a Muslim (especially common among 2nd Geneation sons-of-immigrants) has violated Shari'ah, Jihad is the only option they have to clear their debt to Allah.
Manchester Bomber liked weed and vodka
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:41 PM (eApHj)
And Joker Tsarnaev was a pothead, too.
Once a Muslim (especially common among 2nd Geneation sons-of-immigrants) has violated Shari'ah, Jihad is the only option they have to clear their debt to Allah.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (ULi11)
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Congressional oversight should mean something
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:44 PM (eApHj)
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o-ver-sight
noun
1.an unintentional failure to notice or do something.
"he said his failure to pay for the tickets was an oversight"
synonyms: mistake, error, omission, lapse, slip, blunder;
I think the meaning is just about spot on.
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:44 PM (eApHj)
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o-ver-sight
noun
1.an unintentional failure to notice or do something.
"he said his failure to pay for the tickets was an oversight"
synonyms: mistake, error, omission, lapse, slip, blunder;
I think the meaning is just about spot on.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:46 PM (8XRCm)
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Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 03:38 PM (SCkw/)
I know that two planned attacks in Texas were prevented because of a Muslim informant and a Muslim agent or at least an agent portraying a Muslim. That of course is just anecdotal.
I know that two planned attacks in Texas were prevented because of a Muslim informant and a Muslim agent or at least an agent portraying a Muslim. That of course is just anecdotal.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 03:46 PM (czLDv)
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Soros is at it again. Just in time for summer.
Just got a ROBO call from 1 800 number. Prerecorded message complaining about local political issues from a hair on fire local social justice org and the ending tag line about Donald TRUMP, and "join our resistance movement" call . . .
So they are trying to round up crazies and organize them for hijinks this summer right on schedule.
Just got a ROBO call from 1 800 number. Prerecorded message complaining about local political issues from a hair on fire local social justice org and the ending tag line about Donald TRUMP, and "join our resistance movement" call . . .
So they are trying to round up crazies and organize them for hijinks this summer right on schedule.
Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 03:47 PM (xVRrG)
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House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz said today that the FBI had decided to withhold documents requested by his committee in regards to the ongoing Russia probe. This was revealed in a letter sent by Chaffetz to the FBI responding to the agency's decision to withhold documents requested by the Committee on May 16, 2017.
2018 FBI budget - $0.00
2018 FBI budget - $0.00
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:47 PM (4BGeF)
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I don't think this is gonna end well guys...
U have people all over the bench flagrantly flouting actual law and claiming moral high ground and lecturing people in the right. Up is down wrong is right the western world is committing mass suicide before our eyes and cheering it on. Our hands are also being forced, and that does not bod well.
U have people all over the bench flagrantly flouting actual law and claiming moral high ground and lecturing people in the right. Up is down wrong is right the western world is committing mass suicide before our eyes and cheering it on. Our hands are also being forced, and that does not bod well.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 03:47 PM (idhyN)
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Morrocan
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:47 PM (eApHj)
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Marcus T, I think the 4th just recently also openly flipped off SCOTUS (Heller, or McDonald, forget which case) with their ruling on MD's assault weapons law. It was pretty brazen, even by recent standards of lower-court impudence (which I'm told who watch such things is at a level never seen in their lifetimes), since Scalia's passing.
There may be some silver linings here, if SCOTUS smacks them down in a manner that sweeps away laws in NY and CA as well, I guess.
But in these areas, arguably, the courts are at least operating in their legitimate bailiwick.
The injunctions against the EO is simply indefensible from every angle - the court has no authority, the executive has clear and undisputed authority, and the plaintiffs have no standing. It's absurd. If any of those elements is allowed to stand, unrebuked, we literally have no constitutional system.
And I want to sue the feds for income tax laws, environmental regulation, and 20 other things, where my standing, the harm done, and the authority of the courts to simply over-rule the normal political/legislative process are equally legitimate ....
There may be some silver linings here, if SCOTUS smacks them down in a manner that sweeps away laws in NY and CA as well, I guess.
But in these areas, arguably, the courts are at least operating in their legitimate bailiwick.
The injunctions against the EO is simply indefensible from every angle - the court has no authority, the executive has clear and undisputed authority, and the plaintiffs have no standing. It's absurd. If any of those elements is allowed to stand, unrebuked, we literally have no constitutional system.
And I want to sue the feds for income tax laws, environmental regulation, and 20 other things, where my standing, the harm done, and the authority of the courts to simply over-rule the normal political/legislative process are equally legitimate ....
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 03:47 PM (QDnY+)
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Europe, including Britain, is done. The Muslin population is not assimilating - the bomber in Manchester was second generation. Mark Steyn pointed out that even during The Troubles, the number of Brits who joined the IRA was only around 100, whereas at least 1300 Brits have joined ISIS. And the problem really isn't the terrorists anymore. It's the Leftist establishment that makes excuses for them, that demonizes the law abiding natives.
This is a terrible thing to say, but I honestly believe Europe would be better off in the long run if Putin did invade. The Russians don't tolerate terrorists.
This is a terrible thing to say, but I honestly believe Europe would be better off in the long run if Putin did invade. The Russians don't tolerate terrorists.
Posted by: Mike at May 25, 2017 03:48 PM (c056A)
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Not long ago British security forces had no problem detaining or even killing suspected unconvicted members of the Provincial IRA. What prevents them from handling jihadists in the same fashion?
Posted by: Cosda at May 25, 2017 03:48 PM (1/ml6)
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>>>Do libs realize they are destroying their country too, not only over this issue but on legal laws and reliability of that?<<<
So what you're saying is we have to focus on each of them in their interconnectedness, as well as individual outrages that do demand our attention.
So what you're saying is we have to focus on each of them in their interconnectedness, as well as individual outrages that do demand our attention.
Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2017 03:48 PM (2Mnv1)
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At some future tipping point, there will begin a mass exodus of Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative
Australia would be the best bet. They've tightened up their immigration laws and it's not like anybody can just waltz over the border....
At some future tipping point, there will begin a mass exodus of Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative
Australia would be the best bet. They've tightened up their immigration laws and it's not like anybody can just waltz over the border....
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 25, 2017 03:49 PM (ZM2xo)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:49 PM (eApHj)
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400. No! They'll use up all the guzzolene....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 03:49 PM (TwwWO)
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In Brussels, the estimate is that there are 18,000 individuals who are suspected terror threats. 18,000. How much surveillance do you think they are each receiving?
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (/tuJf)
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This seems like exactly the right time to remind you that the DPMS rebate program runs through August.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (tcQdP)
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Mark Steyn pointed out that even during The Troubles, the number of Brits who joined the IRA was only around 100,
Define "Brits"
Define "Brits"
Posted by: Papist Bograt at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (326rv)
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"Kleindienst is a SCOTUS precedent and they didn't even consider it. I just don't see how this stands."
Judge Kozinski and a few other 9th Circuit judges made a big point of this in saying that the 9th Circuit should have done an en banc reversal of itself.
SCOTUS will overturn the 4th and 9th. Now it's just a question of when. May have to wait until October
Judge Kozinski and a few other 9th Circuit judges made a big point of this in saying that the 9th Circuit should have done an en banc reversal of itself.
SCOTUS will overturn the 4th and 9th. Now it's just a question of when. May have to wait until October
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (+7/1f)
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At some future tipping point, there will begin a mass exodus of
Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened
is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
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Actual Christians in Britain could probably fit inside a soccer stadium. They could all probably be exiled to Rhode Island and barely make a blip.
Christian British to the Commonwealth countries and the US. It happened
is South Africa, and it will happen in the UK.
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Actual Christians in Britain could probably fit inside a soccer stadium. They could all probably be exiled to Rhode Island and barely make a blip.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:52 PM (dFi94)
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This seems like exactly the right time to remind you that the DPMS rebate program runs through August.
CDNN Sports has been running DPMS AR's for $399.00 also.
CDNN Sports has been running DPMS AR's for $399.00 also.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 03:52 PM (4BGeF)
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In Brussels, the estimate is that there are 18,000 individuals who are suspected terror threats. 18,000. How much surveillance do you think they are each receiving?
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (/tuJf)
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The the solution seems to be.... "LET MOAR OF THEM IN!!"
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (/tuJf)
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The the solution seems to be.... "LET MOAR OF THEM IN!!"
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:52 PM (8XRCm)
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Well, this is just great.
Tossoff is neck and neck with Karen Handel here in GA. He's received $18 mil. from outside sources.
I can't even.
Tossoff is neck and neck with Karen Handel here in GA. He's received $18 mil. from outside sources.
I can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (PY9jH)
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>>Actual Christians in Britain could probably fit inside a soccer stadium. They could all probably be exiled to Rhode Island and barely make a blip.
Blips are illegal here.
Blips are illegal here.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (/tuJf)
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SCOTUS will overturn the 4th and 9th. Now it's just a question of when. May have to wait until October
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (+7/1f)
What odds are you laying on this ? I might want some of that action ... depending on the price.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 03:50 PM (+7/1f)
What odds are you laying on this ? I might want some of that action ... depending on the price.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (tcQdP)
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Muslims are the new AIDS.
Muslims are the new AIDS.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (IvAyz)
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Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (dFi94)
Okay, so maybe he's Moroccan and thus probably Berber (we need Boulder Terlit Hobo to set us right)
Now, Moroccans as a rule are usually okay and fairly Westernized in my experience, (The old king of Morocco is said to have cried and got his feelings hurt when his Jewish "children" all left for Israel when it was re-founded in 194
so we'll just keep praying and thinking happy thoughts.
Okay, so maybe he's Moroccan and thus probably Berber (we need Boulder Terlit Hobo to set us right)
Now, Moroccans as a rule are usually okay and fairly Westernized in my experience, (The old king of Morocco is said to have cried and got his feelings hurt when his Jewish "children" all left for Israel when it was re-founded in 194
so we'll just keep praying and thinking happy thoughts.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (evJdV)
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"Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 03:47 PM (QDnY+)"
I think we largely agree.
At some point you start to feed on yourself and undermine the entire legitimacy of the courts.
They are already at a low point of trust and popularity with the people they are meant to serve. Making decisions that even the laymen realizes are unsubstantiated subverts the entire judicial process.
If SCOTUS doesn't slam the door on this type of activism, it ends badly for the entire judiciary.
I think we largely agree.
At some point you start to feed on yourself and undermine the entire legitimacy of the courts.
They are already at a low point of trust and popularity with the people they are meant to serve. Making decisions that even the laymen realizes are unsubstantiated subverts the entire judicial process.
If SCOTUS doesn't slam the door on this type of activism, it ends badly for the entire judiciary.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (sQgZv)
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Blips are illegal here.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (/tuJf)
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I scoff at your laws.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (/tuJf)
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I scoff at your laws.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:54 PM (dFi94)
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Tossoff is neck and neck with Karen Handel here in GA. He's received $18 mil. from outside sources.
I can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (PY9jH)
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Sooooooo..... its a handle toss off race to the finish??
I can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (PY9jH)
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Sooooooo..... its a handle toss off race to the finish??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 03:54 PM (8XRCm)
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Has ESPN commented on Manchester yet?
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:54 PM (hJrjt)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:55 PM (eApHj)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 03:55 PM (/tuJf)
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so we'll just keep praying and thinking happy thoughts.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (evJdV)
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Thank you Tammy - I appreciate that more than you know.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (evJdV)
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Thank you Tammy - I appreciate that more than you know.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:55 PM (dFi94)
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404 Perhaps I should petition our City Council to change our town motto on our welcome signs to "We're armed and we're polite."
Posted by: Emmie at May 25, 2017 03:55 PM (ZapPq)
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413
Muslims are the new AIDS.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (IvAyz)
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What??? They were created by Reagan to kill the black and gay community?
Muslims are the new AIDS.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (IvAyz)
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What??? They were created by Reagan to kill the black and gay community?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 03:56 PM (vg8iE)
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Posted by: Cosda at May 25, 2017 03:48 PM (1/ml6)
There were about 40 of them and they all lived within a mile of each other is my guess.
There were about 40 of them and they all lived within a mile of each other is my guess.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:56 PM (evJdV)
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418 Has ESPN commented on Manchester yet?
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:54 PM (hJrjt)
Not yet. They're trying to decide if they're for or against the bombing.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:54 PM (hJrjt)
Not yet. They're trying to decide if they're for or against the bombing.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 03:56 PM (SRKgf)
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414 Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (dFi94)
Okay, so maybe he's Moroccan and thus probably Berber (we need Boulder Terlit Hobo to set us right)
Now, Moroccans as a rule are usually okay and fairly Westernized in my experience, (The old king of Morocco is said to have cried and got his feelings hurt when his Jewish "children" all left for Israel when it was re-founded in 194 so we'll just keep praying and thinking happy thoughts.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (evJdV)
I know a number of Ismaeli Muslims with roots in Kenya. The young men mostly are interested in weed, women and fast cars.
Okay, so maybe he's Moroccan and thus probably Berber (we need Boulder Terlit Hobo to set us right)
Now, Moroccans as a rule are usually okay and fairly Westernized in my experience, (The old king of Morocco is said to have cried and got his feelings hurt when his Jewish "children" all left for Israel when it was re-founded in 194 so we'll just keep praying and thinking happy thoughts.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (evJdV)
I know a number of Ismaeli Muslims with roots in Kenya. The young men mostly are interested in weed, women and fast cars.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:56 PM (hJrjt)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:57 PM (eApHj)
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Actual Christians in Britain could probably fit
inside a soccer stadium. They could all probably be exiled to Rhode
Island and barely make a blip.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:52 PM (dFi94)
Agreed and the number probably would not increase much if you included all of Europe
inside a soccer stadium. They could all probably be exiled to Rhode
Island and barely make a blip.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:52 PM (dFi94)
Agreed and the number probably would not increase much if you included all of Europe
Posted by: MAC-SOG at May 25, 2017 03:57 PM (QPdNE)
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"Has ESPN commented on Manchester yet?"
Jemele Hill probably blamed it on Trump and believes the media coverage proves white privilege.
Jemele Hill probably blamed it on Trump and believes the media coverage proves white privilege.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 25, 2017 03:57 PM (OD2ni)
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Ok post until the last line where you said we shouldn't let illegal MS-13 gang members in to steal murder and rape.
Thats just racist Ace.
Thats just racist Ace.
Posted by: Libtard Central meeting all your libtard needs at May 25, 2017 03:57 PM (E8apb)
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Yep, she's been advised about that. She is adamant that any children be raised in the Christian faith, and he says he agrees ......
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When you marry someone you marry a whole family. Are his family going to be as open minded as he is? Because no matter what he "promises" its his family that will pull his strings.
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When you marry someone you marry a whole family. Are his family going to be as open minded as he is? Because no matter what he "promises" its his family that will pull his strings.
Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 03:58 PM (xVRrG)
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We can't. I was flat-out told how thinly spread surveillance personnel are and how they have to do triage surveillance even on the highest level threats.
Hmmm, how to fix this problem ...
Hmmm, how to fix this problem ...
Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2017 03:58 PM (ZfTaV)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 03:58 PM (eApHj)
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Not long ago British security forces had no problem detaining or even killing suspected unconvicted members of the Provincial IRA. What prevents them from handling jihadists in the same fashion?
Posted by: Cosda
The IRA was white.
Not long ago British security forces had no problem detaining or even killing suspected unconvicted members of the Provincial IRA. What prevents them from handling jihadists in the same fashion?
Posted by: Cosda
The IRA was white.
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at May 25, 2017 03:58 PM (IqV8l)
435
Tossoff is neck and neck with Karen Handel here in GA. He's received $18 mil. from outside sources.
I can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
That's alright. It just goes to show the unfathomably high pile of money which is required for the Democrats to win an election anymore.
My call, Republican +5. Polls as so full of ___ anymore to be useless unless they're showing the actual D/R/Indie breakdown.
I can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
That's alright. It just goes to show the unfathomably high pile of money which is required for the Democrats to win an election anymore.
My call, Republican +5. Polls as so full of ___ anymore to be useless unless they're showing the actual D/R/Indie breakdown.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 03:58 PM (HTdUD)
436
Grammie, I will pray for your family member.
Pretty sure the "unequally yoked" rule applies here, but marriage is a blessing from God to everyone, inside or outside the flock.
Pretty sure the "unequally yoked" rule applies here, but marriage is a blessing from God to everyone, inside or outside the flock.
Posted by: Emmie at May 25, 2017 03:59 PM (ZapPq)
437
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:55 PM (dFi94)
It's an honor for me to do so, ma'am. We'll keep them prayed up. All newlyweds need plenty of prayer anyway, right??
It's an honor for me to do so, ma'am. We'll keep them prayed up. All newlyweds need plenty of prayer anyway, right??
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 03:59 PM (evJdV)
438
I suppose that I don't know why we're surprised by this. We've known for decades that crime is largely the work of a small amount of the population, and that urban, black neighorhoods are points of the highest crime.
And we joke about how government and TV not only gloss over it, they twist the truth so that perpetrators are the eeeevvvviiill, white Christian men? It's cliched.
We shouldn't expect any different really.
And we joke about how government and TV not only gloss over it, they twist the truth so that perpetrators are the eeeevvvviiill, white Christian men? It's cliched.
We shouldn't expect any different really.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at May 25, 2017 03:59 PM (326rv)
439
>>>*I'll bet y'all are sick of me repeating myself again and again with this rant......well, poo to you with knobs on!*
It's refreshing to have someone get it right. It's not really about power, it's about burning down dad's house and taking a shit in the ashes.
It's refreshing to have someone get it right. It's not really about power, it's about burning down dad's house and taking a shit in the ashes.
Posted by: Max Power at May 25, 2017 03:59 PM (q177U)
440
Most of ISIS fighters are all high on speed or some facsimile.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 03:59 PM (czLDv)
441
Ignoramus, even if it were done next week, the "harm" is done. October, of course, will be much worse.
There's a reason the courts are not enshrined as final authorities on national security-related operational decisions (closest they come are the FISA court, which doesn't take months and is arguably overly indulgent or deferential - but again, acting within a clearly legitimate area of 4th amendment issues).
In fact, they have no role at all. Until now, when they've been permitted to appoint themselves as arbiters of operational policy decisions - and to endow "plaintiffs" with "standing" to block duly enacted and lawfully enforced policies.
Bad faith and no integrity in the judiciary spell the end of the rule of law, as surely as lawless behavior from other branches - even worse, because there's no obvious fix.
There's a reason the courts are not enshrined as final authorities on national security-related operational decisions (closest they come are the FISA court, which doesn't take months and is arguably overly indulgent or deferential - but again, acting within a clearly legitimate area of 4th amendment issues).
In fact, they have no role at all. Until now, when they've been permitted to appoint themselves as arbiters of operational policy decisions - and to endow "plaintiffs" with "standing" to block duly enacted and lawfully enforced policies.
Bad faith and no integrity in the judiciary spell the end of the rule of law, as surely as lawless behavior from other branches - even worse, because there's no obvious fix.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 04:00 PM (QDnY+)
442
I'm not sure. He is very light skinned and is from Casablanca. He seems very Mediterranean but I guess that's considered North Africa.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (dFi94)
Casablanca. Is he a short guy, with a bit of lisp who smokes like a chimney?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 03:45 PM (dFi94)
Casablanca. Is he a short guy, with a bit of lisp who smokes like a chimney?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:00 PM (493sH)
443
Not yet. They're trying to decide if they're for or against the bombing.
What would they not like about dead white girls?
What would they not like about dead white girls?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2017 04:00 PM (oVJmc)
444
From the WSJ:
A Virginia-based federal appeals says the president likely acted with improper motives when seeking to temporarily bar U.S. entry for travelers from six Muslim-majority countries.
I forgot, what part of the constitution deals with motive?
A Virginia-based federal appeals says the president likely acted with improper motives when seeking to temporarily bar U.S. entry for travelers from six Muslim-majority countries.
I forgot, what part of the constitution deals with motive?
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 25, 2017 04:00 PM (1L9V9)
445
Europe is committing suicide and the terrorists are in 100% with that.
Posted by: Yabba Dabba Do at May 25, 2017 04:01 PM (E8apb)
446
It is not so much "the Left has won".
It's the corporatists who won.
If we say mean things about Muslims, would the Saudis buy all that military gear that was just inked, something like $100 billion?
Some collateral casualties, like Rotherham, like the people in Manchester, like the music hall in Paris, are inevitable, as the world becomes "One".
So the corporatists can all do deals, and sell each other stuff. It has long been French government policy to tolerate immigration from "North Africa", what was once Metropolitan France, because the French had to do business and get those Euros back from the ME that they spent buying oil.
A French guy that I used to work with once worked for Suez Lyonnaise, and his region was the ME, and he sold water treatment chemicals to the KSA. His mother was incredibly relieved when he left that job.
THEY DON'T CARE, because "they" are making a lot of money doing business with most of the 57 Muslim states, or want to be doing business with them.
The Left is just a smokescreen of useful idiots mouthing mushy bromides about Coexistence, blah, blah, blah. Does anyone really think Katy Perry has half a brain in her head?
We have been told we have to learn to accept this, or else. Haters.
If you or I get killed, again, it's just collateral damage in the larger cause of lots of world trade. Believe me, the folks at Boeing were all kinds of happy about what Barky did with Iran, because now they are going to sell them BILLIONS of dollars worth of commercial airplanes. Fortune passes everywhere.
And who cares if there is some brush fire war somewhere, and your kid or mine gets killed. More collateral damage, serving the greater cause.
And this is the only SANE rationalization I can come up with as to why this all keeps happening.
The average people are PO'd, which is in part, why we got Trump. I don't know what the next step is going to be. But, to quote Clint Eastwood from "The Eiger Sanction"....
Something massive.
Or else, we just give up.
It's the corporatists who won.
If we say mean things about Muslims, would the Saudis buy all that military gear that was just inked, something like $100 billion?
Some collateral casualties, like Rotherham, like the people in Manchester, like the music hall in Paris, are inevitable, as the world becomes "One".
So the corporatists can all do deals, and sell each other stuff. It has long been French government policy to tolerate immigration from "North Africa", what was once Metropolitan France, because the French had to do business and get those Euros back from the ME that they spent buying oil.
A French guy that I used to work with once worked for Suez Lyonnaise, and his region was the ME, and he sold water treatment chemicals to the KSA. His mother was incredibly relieved when he left that job.
THEY DON'T CARE, because "they" are making a lot of money doing business with most of the 57 Muslim states, or want to be doing business with them.
The Left is just a smokescreen of useful idiots mouthing mushy bromides about Coexistence, blah, blah, blah. Does anyone really think Katy Perry has half a brain in her head?
We have been told we have to learn to accept this, or else. Haters.
If you or I get killed, again, it's just collateral damage in the larger cause of lots of world trade. Believe me, the folks at Boeing were all kinds of happy about what Barky did with Iran, because now they are going to sell them BILLIONS of dollars worth of commercial airplanes. Fortune passes everywhere.
And who cares if there is some brush fire war somewhere, and your kid or mine gets killed. More collateral damage, serving the greater cause.
And this is the only SANE rationalization I can come up with as to why this all keeps happening.
The average people are PO'd, which is in part, why we got Trump. I don't know what the next step is going to be. But, to quote Clint Eastwood from "The Eiger Sanction"....
Something massive.
Or else, we just give up.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 04:01 PM (RFeQD)
447
"It's refreshing to have someone get it right. It's not really about power, it's about burning down dad's house and taking a shit in the ashes."
Speaking of shit burning down, I watched Manchester By The Sea on my flight home from Europe the other day. Holy shit is that depressing. I wanted to open the door and jump out. Thank goodness they serve booze on planes.
Speaking of shit burning down, I watched Manchester By The Sea on my flight home from Europe the other day. Holy shit is that depressing. I wanted to open the door and jump out. Thank goodness they serve booze on planes.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 25, 2017 04:01 PM (OD2ni)
448
Its a Leftist World, try to be safe in it.
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (Ot7+c)
449
Because no matter what he "promises" its his family that will pull his strings.
Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 03:58 PM (xVRrG)
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His family hasn't made any applications for American visas, although they do with him Skype like crazy. I know his sisters go to University and neither of them wear any kind of scarf or anything. Dad seems a bit perturbed by it but lets them do as they please. So they seem pretty easy-going, from what I've observed.
Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 03:58 PM (xVRrG)
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His family hasn't made any applications for American visas, although they do with him Skype like crazy. I know his sisters go to University and neither of them wear any kind of scarf or anything. Dad seems a bit perturbed by it but lets them do as they please. So they seem pretty easy-going, from what I've observed.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (eApHj)
451
Not long ago British security forces had no problem detaining or even killing suspected unconvicted members of the Provincial IRA. What prevents them from handling jihadists in the same fashion?
Posted by: Cosda
We should tell the Limeys they really aren't Muzzies but Irish Catholics in disguise and watch the slaughter begin
Posted by: Cosda
We should tell the Limeys they really aren't Muzzies but Irish Catholics in disguise and watch the slaughter begin
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (493sH)
452
A Virginia-based federal appeals says the president likely acted with improper motives when seeking to temporarily bar U.S. entry for travelers from six Muslim-majority countries.
I forgot, what part of the constitution deals with motive?
Comey's Intent Clause.
A Virginia-based federal appeals says the president likely acted with improper motives when seeking to temporarily bar U.S. entry for travelers from six Muslim-majority countries.
I forgot, what part of the constitution deals with motive?
Comey's Intent Clause.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (oVJmc)
453
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:56 PM (hJrjt)
And this is different thanblack young men here, how?! 
And this is different than
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
454
So what happens when two obvious things happen?
1. Citizens, realizing the police and government won't protect them, protect THEMSELVES and kill or maim one or more terrorists, and then
2. Said police and government come down like a ton of bricks on those proactive citizens doing the job they (police and government) refuses to do
Sounds like a recipe for civil war -- is THAT what the Obama-era government wants? Lord knows I don't.
1. Citizens, realizing the police and government won't protect them, protect THEMSELVES and kill or maim one or more terrorists, and then
2. Said police and government come down like a ton of bricks on those proactive citizens doing the job they (police and government) refuses to do
Sounds like a recipe for civil war -- is THAT what the Obama-era government wants? Lord knows I don't.
Posted by: acethepug at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (539ql)
455
Casablanca. Is he a short guy, with a bit of lisp who smokes like a chimney?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:00 PM (493sH)
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No - that's his second cousin twice removed.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:00 PM (493sH)
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No - that's his second cousin twice removed.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (dFi94)
456
Or else, we just give up.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 04:01 PM (RFeQD)
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Thing is.... thats not in our nature.
I think part of their miscalculation IS that we will eventually give up.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 04:01 PM (RFeQD)
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Thing is.... thats not in our nature.
I think part of their miscalculation IS that we will eventually give up.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (8XRCm)
457
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (dFi94)
Excellent sign that his sisters aren't hijabis.
Excellent sign that his sisters aren't hijabis.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
458
If I was a democrat right now I'd be praying for a 'special election' -- knowing that the party is willing to spend tens of millions for the gold trophy - the newspaper article that *finally* says that 'VOTERS REPUDIATE TRUMP' in 400 point type.
If I was a democrat right now I'd be praying for a 'special election' -- knowing that the party is willing to spend tens of millions for the gold trophy - the newspaper article that *finally* says that 'VOTERS REPUDIATE TRUMP' in 400 point type.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 04:04 PM (HTdUD)
459
The legal sites are mostly having a field day with the lack of any reference to Kleindienst by the majority. Combined with the whimsical, unsupported expansion of the Establishment Clause, the Fourth is a laughingstock.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 04:04 PM (sQgZv)
460
As if we needed more proof that government is basically a huge, useless, smelly turd in America's pants.
Posted by: Hugh Biquitous at May 25, 2017 04:04 PM (Dy6X7)
461
No - that's his second cousin twice removed.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (dFi94)
In all the gin joints, in all the towns in all the world....
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (dFi94)
In all the gin joints, in all the towns in all the world....
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:04 PM (493sH)
462
The dems have been screaming bloody murder about Trump partly to see how it helps their folks in the special elections. It seems to be having an impact...plus the boatloads of money raised from doing so.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (m3iiU)
463
Are there IRA dudes still in prison for doing less than these Muslim clowns?
Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (ZfTaV)
464
Marcus, ridiculous personal pet-peeve, but I hate "activist" as a term WRT judicial malfeasance. It's off-point. Be as "active" as you want - just stay within your authority and do your f***ing job - which is applying law and the constitution, not legislating, not conducting policy reviews, and not re-engineering society.
"Lawless" is the much better and more accurate adjective for the behavior we have in mind here.
"Lawless" is the much better and more accurate adjective for the behavior we have in mind here.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (QDnY+)
465
Anyone here notice 'Splodey Boy's mosque in Manchester is a former church?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (PY9jH)
466
453 Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 03:56 PM (hJrjt)
And this is different than black young men here, how?!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
These guys seem pretty harmless. As an aside I remember seeing a small car parked at a McDonald's. It was entirely filled with smoke--a mobile bong as it where.
And this is different than black young men here, how?!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
These guys seem pretty harmless. As an aside I remember seeing a small car parked at a McDonald's. It was entirely filled with smoke--a mobile bong as it where.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (hJrjt)
467
439 It's refreshing to have someone get it right. It's not really about power, it's about burning down dad's house and taking a shit in the ashes.
Posted by: Max Power at May 25, 2017 03:59 PM (q177U)
I've been mentioning this forever. ESPECIALLY the "dad" part.
For the Rank and File Millenial Leftists, SO VERY MUCH of this is about getting revenge on their fathers.
Especially for the LGBTs and the Atheists, who are still bitchy that their dad dragged them to church when they were 5.
Posted by: Max Power at May 25, 2017 03:59 PM (q177U)
I've been mentioning this forever. ESPECIALLY the "dad" part.
For the Rank and File Millenial Leftists, SO VERY MUCH of this is about getting revenge on their fathers.
Especially for the LGBTs and the Atheists, who are still bitchy that their dad dragged them to church when they were 5.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (ULi11)
468
Just so you know to keep an eye out, there is a "Reading to End Racism" program in Boulder with the apparent goal of teaching children that it is mean to exercise any caution about immigration. Also, if you notice the true goal, you must be a racist. Hence the program name.
Posted by: Emmie at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (ZapPq)
469
We have nothing to fear from Obama in the White House for eight years -- John McCain.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (nXQUN)
470
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Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (m3iiU)
471
>>So the corporatists can all do deals, and sell each other stuff. It has long been French government policy to tolerate immigration from "North Africa", what was once Metropolitan France, because the French had to do business and get those Euros back from the ME that they spent buying oil.
That is undoubtedly part of it. As I said repeatedly at the time, the deal with Iran was not a bi-lateral deal, it was done by the P5+1 because those countries were much more interested in short term revenue than they were in the long term problem of Iran getting the bomb. And events since have proven that to be exactly the case.
But the history of some of the European countries and their colonial past is also a huge part of the problem. Much of the immigration into countries like France and Belgium and the UK is from former colonies. UK doesn't have a huge Pakistani immigrant class by accident.
White liberal guilt is not a uniquely American phenomena. And chickens are coming home to roost.
That is undoubtedly part of it. As I said repeatedly at the time, the deal with Iran was not a bi-lateral deal, it was done by the P5+1 because those countries were much more interested in short term revenue than they were in the long term problem of Iran getting the bomb. And events since have proven that to be exactly the case.
But the history of some of the European countries and their colonial past is also a huge part of the problem. Much of the immigration into countries like France and Belgium and the UK is from former colonies. UK doesn't have a huge Pakistani immigrant class by accident.
White liberal guilt is not a uniquely American phenomena. And chickens are coming home to roost.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (/tuJf)
472
Anyone here notice 'Splodey Boy's mosque in Manchester is a former church?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (PY9jH)
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Yup.... part of their Conquest Culture.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (PY9jH)
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Yup.... part of their Conquest Culture.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (8XRCm)
473
police,security,lawyers, judges, are all part of system that works in very nice taxpayer supported digs (most places, esp big cities), and would be out of jobs if crime went away. many lawyers seem to support the continuation of crimes to keep their pockets lined. citizens shooting the miscreants does not fit this, and has not since the 1900's
Posted by: arbitrary turn back at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (8RQER)
474
And this is different than black young men here, how?!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
These guys seem pretty harmless. As an aside I remember seeing a small car parked at a McDonald's. It was entirely filled with smoke--a mobile bong as it where.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (hJrjt)
Harmless? Look at the damage one commie douche in a choom gang did to this country
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
These guys seem pretty harmless. As an aside I remember seeing a small car parked at a McDonald's. It was entirely filled with smoke--a mobile bong as it where.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (hJrjt)
Harmless? Look at the damage one commie douche in a choom gang did to this country
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (493sH)
475
"Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (QDnY+)"
Oh I'm fine with "lawless". Just yielding to the contemporary nomenclature.
Oh I'm fine with "lawless". Just yielding to the contemporary nomenclature.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (sQgZv)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (vg8iE)
477
No - that's his second cousin twice removed.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (dFi94)
On his mother's side, that's an important distinction.
Has to do with being able to marry them, but I can't remember which side is preferable and which side is a no-no.
Where is terlit when ya need him?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (dFi94)
On his mother's side, that's an important distinction.
Has to do with being able to marry them, but I can't remember which side is preferable and which side is a no-no.
Where is terlit when ya need him?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (evJdV)
478
I keep hearing most of Manchester is a conclave of the Islam caliphate
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (Ot7+c)
479
The young muslim women I know (and I know a few) act pretty much like any other women. They may dress a little more conservatively.
I work with one who is Bosnian. There is nothing stereotypically muslim about her.
I work with one who is Bosnian. There is nothing stereotypically muslim about her.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:08 PM (hJrjt)
480
Speaking of shit burning down, I watched Manchester By The Sea on my flight home from Europe the other day. Holy shit is that depressing. I wanted to open the door and jump out. Thank goodness they serve booze on planes.
Posted by: Benji Carver
The premise of that movie seems to be: can we find a guy, so hot, with the correct amount of __ day old facial hair that will permit half of the audience to forgive him for the unforgivable?
As a member of the male persuasion, once I got to a certain part of the movie all I wanted to do was kick his ass. Certain things you never ______ do with children in a house.
Posted by: Benji Carver
The premise of that movie seems to be: can we find a guy, so hot, with the correct amount of __ day old facial hair that will permit half of the audience to forgive him for the unforgivable?
As a member of the male persuasion, once I got to a certain part of the movie all I wanted to do was kick his ass. Certain things you never ______ do with children in a house.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 04:08 PM (HTdUD)
481
I keep hearing most of Manchester is a conclave of the Islam caliphate
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (Ot7+c)
Most of England is. Muzzie London mayor?
I keep hearing most of Manchester is a conclave of the Islam caliphate
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (Ot7+c)
Most of England is. Muzzie London mayor?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 04:08 PM (PY9jH)
482
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (hJrjt)
LOL! I knew what you meant. And I agree, fairly harmless.
As long as they mature out of that stage, and a lot never do, sadly.
LOL! I knew what you meant. And I agree, fairly harmless.
As long as they mature out of that stage, and a lot never do, sadly.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:09 PM (evJdV)
483
474 And this is different than black young men here, how?!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
These guys seem pretty harmless. As an aside I remember seeing a small car parked at a McDonald's. It was entirely filled with smoke--a mobile bong as it where.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (hJrjt)
Harmless? Look at the damage one commie douche in a choom gang did to this country
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (493sH)
A point you have.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:03 PM (evJdV)
These guys seem pretty harmless. As an aside I remember seeing a small car parked at a McDonald's. It was entirely filled with smoke--a mobile bong as it where.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (hJrjt)
Harmless? Look at the damage one commie douche in a choom gang did to this country
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:07 PM (493sH)
A point you have.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:09 PM (hJrjt)
484
Especially for the LGBTs and the Atheists, who are still bitchy that their dad dragged them to church when they were 5.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (ULi11)
And their new Muzzie buddies can drag them to the nearest rooftop
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 04:06 PM (ULi11)
And their new Muzzie buddies can drag them to the nearest rooftop
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:09 PM (493sH)
485
Actually, a number of useful idiots do believe in that utopian Crap. Maybe power brokers no, but rank and file yes. Also they actually believe the law is on their side, some of him at least, and lecture others over it.
Point is this situAtion cannot stand. Period. It's gotta be stopped by any means needed or else.
We cannot rely on scotus even if they smack it down with good reason it's not enough, these judges and their supporters have to be punished. Straight up.
Republic better grow a spine and call these lawless pukes out pronto, and start brainstorming strategies to break up circuits, Impeach, etc. right now or we can give up.
We have no functioning republic at this point.
If these judges can usurp other branch rights based on specious reasoning like this, based on liberal madness, we can give up. Elections are rendered moot.
What is to stop trump from vetoing a bill for th next budget over no wall funding, and lib judges saying the ceiling cannot impede over his hate of Mexicans in his heart even if unstated and reversing?
Or congress seeing its pursestrings powers clipped?
This cannot stand. We have a basic right to even openly discriminate for reasons on who comes in withOut some fantasy violation of religious fairness in this limited context.
The president was well in his powers and they disregard it.
Cannot. Fucking. Stand. This is open wAr on us and the nation.
Point is this situAtion cannot stand. Period. It's gotta be stopped by any means needed or else.
We cannot rely on scotus even if they smack it down with good reason it's not enough, these judges and their supporters have to be punished. Straight up.
Republic better grow a spine and call these lawless pukes out pronto, and start brainstorming strategies to break up circuits, Impeach, etc. right now or we can give up.
We have no functioning republic at this point.
If these judges can usurp other branch rights based on specious reasoning like this, based on liberal madness, we can give up. Elections are rendered moot.
What is to stop trump from vetoing a bill for th next budget over no wall funding, and lib judges saying the ceiling cannot impede over his hate of Mexicans in his heart even if unstated and reversing?
Or congress seeing its pursestrings powers clipped?
This cannot stand. We have a basic right to even openly discriminate for reasons on who comes in withOut some fantasy violation of religious fairness in this limited context.
The president was well in his powers and they disregard it.
Cannot. Fucking. Stand. This is open wAr on us and the nation.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 04:10 PM (idhyN)
486
Someone should FOIA the list of high threats, and Team Trump should just release it. Then we can turn it into a website like the ones for slopes
Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2017 04:10 PM (ZfTaV)
487
My one experience with DPMS was not positive.
I have avoided them because of the stories.
I've stuck with Bushmaster & Palmetto State Armory.
My new lower is due in Tuesday.
I have avoided them because of the stories.
I've stuck with Bushmaster & Palmetto State Armory.
My new lower is due in Tuesday.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:10 PM (4BGeF)
488
The young muslim women I know (and I know a few) act pretty much like any other women. They may dress a little more conservatively.
I work with one who is Bosnian. There is nothing stereotypically muslim about her.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:08 PM (hJrjt)
I have known several Bosnian women who "overdo" the whole Americanized thing.
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
I work with one who is Bosnian. There is nothing stereotypically muslim about her.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:08 PM (hJrjt)
I have known several Bosnian women who "overdo" the whole Americanized thing.
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
489
They do drugs. Iran has a pretty significant heroin problem
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Oh, what a shame.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
****
Aaaaand now we have somewhere to ship the heroin our LE agencies confiscate...
(just thinking out loud)
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Oh, what a shame.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
****
Aaaaand now we have somewhere to ship the heroin our LE agencies confiscate...
(just thinking out loud)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (0x/TW)
490
His family hasn't made any applications for American visas, although they do with him Skype like crazy. I know his sisters go to University and neither of them wear any kind of scarf or anything. Dad seems a bit perturbed by it but lets them do as they please. So they seem pretty easy-going, from what I've observed.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (dFi94)
I'm kind of curious, but if she is *adamantly* set on her children being raised as Christian, it sounds like she is a serious believer. Which is great. I'm sure, though, that you probably explained Paul's admonition about being "unequally yoked" with unbelievers to her, and what does she think about that? If that passage doesn't apply to the marriage covenant, I don't know what it would apply to.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:02 PM (dFi94)
I'm kind of curious, but if she is *adamantly* set on her children being raised as Christian, it sounds like she is a serious believer. Which is great. I'm sure, though, that you probably explained Paul's admonition about being "unequally yoked" with unbelievers to her, and what does she think about that? If that passage doesn't apply to the marriage covenant, I don't know what it would apply to.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (YMLsE)
491
If SCOTUS doesn't slam the door on this type of activism, it ends badly for the entire judiciary.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (sQgZv)
I said it on Day One ... Trump should have defied the order.
The Judiciary only has power so far as the willingness of police and military to enforce it. Trump should have started down the path to ignore them. The 9th would have backed up if not backed off ... just to save face.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 03:53 PM (sQgZv)
I said it on Day One ... Trump should have defied the order.
The Judiciary only has power so far as the willingness of police and military to enforce it. Trump should have started down the path to ignore them. The 9th would have backed up if not backed off ... just to save face.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (tcQdP)
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (Pcs3e)
493
If Muslims take over I guess we won't be seeing any reruns of Lassie on television, or Old Yeller.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:12 PM (hJrjt)
494
488. Heh.....that's just Balkan women.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 04:12 PM (TwwWO)
495
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC
Obligatory "do you have their number?"
Posted by: BurtTC
Obligatory "do you have their number?"
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (4BGeF)
496
I have known several Bosnian women who "overdo" the whole Americanized thing.
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
Could describe my coworker, who I like.
I have known several Bosnian women who "overdo" the whole Americanized thing.
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
Could describe my coworker, who I like.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (hJrjt)
497
Marcus, the laughingstock is the entire judiciary. And the Congress that has the role of regulating jurisdiction (i.e., a club to keep things in line).
And, ultimately, the populace that has, over the years, allowed the precious inheritance of an actual functioning system based on rule of law to be dismantled, from the top.
In his dissent in Hamdan v. Bush, Roberts betrayed what now is almost a cute sort of sensitivity to the unraveling of the constitutional system by the courts (cute, now, because Roberts has etched his own two gigantic contributions into the process - and discarding statutory construction deserves a special mention, given its audacity and truly destructive potential impact). He said, in effect, that Kennedy's ludicrous disregard of facts and words WRT Geneva Common Article 3 threatened the very constitutional system itself.
Laughingstocks every direction you look.
But, really, nothing to laugh about.
And, ultimately, the populace that has, over the years, allowed the precious inheritance of an actual functioning system based on rule of law to be dismantled, from the top.
In his dissent in Hamdan v. Bush, Roberts betrayed what now is almost a cute sort of sensitivity to the unraveling of the constitutional system by the courts (cute, now, because Roberts has etched his own two gigantic contributions into the process - and discarding statutory construction deserves a special mention, given its audacity and truly destructive potential impact). He said, in effect, that Kennedy's ludicrous disregard of facts and words WRT Geneva Common Article 3 threatened the very constitutional system itself.
Laughingstocks every direction you look.
But, really, nothing to laugh about.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (QDnY+)
498
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
Oh honey, that's an Eastern European/Balkan thing.
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
Oh honey, that's an Eastern European/Balkan thing.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (evJdV)
499
If Muslims take over I guess we won't be seeing any reruns of Lassie on television, or Old Yeller.
No, but you'll see them on menus.
No, but you'll see them on menus.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (4BGeF)
500
If one of the douchebags let in by the judges goes all Muslim and blows up, drives a cab into a crowd, or starts stabbing folks ...
Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (ZfTaV)
501
>>I keep hearing most of Manchester is a conclave of the Islam caliphate
You hear correctly. One of my best friends lives in Manchester and I've visited him a number of times. There are lots of Muslims living in Manchester, London and other parts of the UK.
They live there but they are not part of there. The Brits are paying the price of allowing Muslims to come to their country but not assimilate just like the rest of Europe.
You hear correctly. One of my best friends lives in Manchester and I've visited him a number of times. There are lots of Muslims living in Manchester, London and other parts of the UK.
They live there but they are not part of there. The Brits are paying the price of allowing Muslims to come to their country but not assimilate just like the rest of Europe.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (/tuJf)
502
speaking of lowers, i have 2 15 lowers from Aero Precision at the FFL, and a -10 on the way.
both my toy stores say they make quality stuff, and they've had some great sales recently... plus i get 10% off just for being a vet.
#Winning!
both my toy stores say they make quality stuff, and they've had some great sales recently... plus i get 10% off just for being a vet.
#Winning!
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (Pcs3e)
503
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
I don't suppose you have a phone number of any of them?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
I don't suppose you have a phone number of any of them?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (493sH)
504
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 04:12 PM (TwwWO)
LOL! See my reply at 498!
LOL! See my reply at 498!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (evJdV)
505
493 If Muslims take over I guess we won't be seeing any reruns of Lassie on television, or Old Yeller.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:12 PM (hJrjt)
Maybe on the food channel.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:12 PM (hJrjt)
Maybe on the food channel.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 04:16 PM (SRKgf)
506
So so woke....
@WashTimes 37m
'Wonder Woman' given female-only screening at Alamo Drafthouse: 'No guys allowed'
@WashTimes 37m
'Wonder Woman' given female-only screening at Alamo Drafthouse: 'No guys allowed'
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 25, 2017 04:17 PM (udajc)
507
The 4th Circuit dissent comes close to what I would have included. The lawyer arguing against the EO was pressed to admit that if a President Hillary had issued the same EOs they would have been legal:
"The Supreme Court surely will shudder at the majority's adoption of this new rule that has no limits or bounds -- one that transforms the majority's criticisms of a candidate's various campaign statements into a constitutional violation."
I would have gone further and said what seems to be unsayable: it's "neutral" and "not unconstitutional" to take someone's being a Muslim into account when deciding immigration and law enforcement surveillance.
"The Supreme Court surely will shudder at the majority's adoption of this new rule that has no limits or bounds -- one that transforms the majority's criticisms of a candidate's various campaign statements into a constitutional violation."
I would have gone further and said what seems to be unsayable: it's "neutral" and "not unconstitutional" to take someone's being a Muslim into account when deciding immigration and law enforcement surveillance.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 04:17 PM (+7/1f)
508
I did. Ahhh....the ladies of the Balkans, amd their sisters in eastern europe.....what they lack in subtlety, they make up for in directness.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 04:17 PM (TwwWO)
509
If one of the douchebags let in by the judges goes all Muslim and blows up, drives a cab into a crowd, or starts stabbing folks ...
Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (ZfTaV)
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..... they will blame it on Trump and us Neanderthals.
Posted by: Jean at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (ZfTaV)
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..... they will blame it on Trump and us Neanderthals.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 04:17 PM (8XRCm)
510
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (4BGeF)
Sorry, just saw your post.
GMTA and all that.
Sorry, just saw your post.
GMTA and all that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 04:18 PM (SRKgf)
511
IRA is known to have colluded with Islamic terror groups. Enemy of my enemy and all.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 04:18 PM (czLDv)
512
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (6Ll1u)
Report the illegal father and have him processed and possibly deported. Then when the legal daughter graduates with her degree in criminal justice she can help him.
It's good to practice what you learn in school.
Report the illegal father and have him processed and possibly deported. Then when the legal daughter graduates with her degree in criminal justice she can help him.
It's good to practice what you learn in school.
Posted by: gracepc at May 25, 2017 04:18 PM (OU4q6)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 04:18 PM (IvAyz)
514
Do you think maybe part of the problem in the UK might be having mohamadans in upper echelon positions of government? I mean, we had that very same problem in this country not so long ago.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2017 04:18 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (TwwWO)
516
"I am seriously beginning to wonder if our security services are actually in the business of protecting us rather than 'community feelings'."
NASA's prime directive under SCoaMF was to make Muslims feel good about themselves. It follows that the last thing security services are tasked to do is secure classical American citizens.
We are at odds, if not war, with our own Federal government. The current State is not benign.
NASA's prime directive under SCoaMF was to make Muslims feel good about themselves. It follows that the last thing security services are tasked to do is secure classical American citizens.
We are at odds, if not war, with our own Federal government. The current State is not benign.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (H8S+R)
517
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC
Obligatory "do you have their number?"
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (4BGeF)
I don't suppose you have a phone number of any of them?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (493sH)
Ima gonna say this because I like you guys: No, no I don't.
Posted by: BurtTC
Obligatory "do you have their number?"
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (4BGeF)
I don't suppose you have a phone number of any of them?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 04:14 PM (493sH)
Ima gonna say this because I like you guys: No, no I don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (4BGeF)
519
>>IRA is known to have colluded with Islamic terror groups. Enemy of my enemy and all.
You mean that wasn't just made up in Patriot Games?
Shocking.
You mean that wasn't just made up in Patriot Games?
Shocking.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (/tuJf)
520
492 My one experience with DPMS was not positive.
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what's wrong with them?
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (Pcs3e)
I'd like to hear as well ... Oracles I've shot were fine. Owners I've known were pleased.
Not match-grade ... but dependable.
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what's wrong with them?
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (Pcs3e)
I'd like to hear as well ... Oracles I've shot were fine. Owners I've known were pleased.
Not match-grade ... but dependable.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (tcQdP)
521
the best part of the vid I linked above is 1:25
the best part of the vid I linked above is 1:25
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 25, 2017 04:20 PM (IvAyz)
522
511 IRA is known to have colluded with Islamic terror groups. Enemy of my enemy and all.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 04:18 PM (czLDv)
The IRA was armed in no small degree by Libya. Turtles all the way down.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 04:18 PM (czLDv)
The IRA was armed in no small degree by Libya. Turtles all the way down.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 04:20 PM (SRKgf)
523
"Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 04:05 PM (QDnY+)"
Agreed. I believe what adds to the damage is an abundance the average person can read on the judicial facts and process. A cogent, intelligent person can reasonably understand when something is outside the bounds of normal process. Most people also have an innate sense of right and wrong. Especially from a Constitutional perspective because that document is rather intuitive. Courts can try to bury disrepute and even illegality in their decision. But most of the population who actually pays attention can discern that something is amiss. In the end the courts lose their legitimacy.
Agreed. I believe what adds to the damage is an abundance the average person can read on the judicial facts and process. A cogent, intelligent person can reasonably understand when something is outside the bounds of normal process. Most people also have an innate sense of right and wrong. Especially from a Constitutional perspective because that document is rather intuitive. Courts can try to bury disrepute and even illegality in their decision. But most of the population who actually pays attention can discern that something is amiss. In the end the courts lose their legitimacy.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 04:21 PM (sQgZv)
524
The left now uses lawfare.
They even ignore highcourt decisions knowing a new challenge can take time to review and in the meantime they win, and such. And scotus does not have give cert.
They openly defy it to test them and us and use time to review and reverse as a weapon now.
Trumps order should have had core stuff in each with slight alterations and issued a new one every day, forcing them to take time in reversing, etc. and using reverse lawfare thereby.
We cannot work within the system long term by simply trying for scotus majorities, etc. as others note. Long term, we have defang courts and punish these judges by instituting changes in their particulars.
They even ignore highcourt decisions knowing a new challenge can take time to review and in the meantime they win, and such. And scotus does not have give cert.
They openly defy it to test them and us and use time to review and reverse as a weapon now.
Trumps order should have had core stuff in each with slight alterations and issued a new one every day, forcing them to take time in reversing, etc. and using reverse lawfare thereby.
We cannot work within the system long term by simply trying for scotus majorities, etc. as others note. Long term, we have defang courts and punish these judges by instituting changes in their particulars.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 04:21 PM (idhyN)
525
IRA is known to have colluded with Islamic terror groups. Enemy of my enemy and all.
Much of the newer elements of the IRA (there are, or were, several) were marxist.
Some were found in Libya and South America.
Much of the newer elements of the IRA (there are, or were, several) were marxist.
Some were found in Libya and South America.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at May 25, 2017 04:21 PM (326rv)
526
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan!
No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (TwwWO)
I think a fair number of Central Asians find their way to WE .
No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 03:40 PM (TwwWO)
I think a fair number of Central Asians find their way to WE .
Posted by: gracepc at May 25, 2017 04:21 PM (OU4q6)
527
I have known several Bosnian women who "overdo" the whole Americanized thing.
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
Could describe my coworker, who I like.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (hJrjt)
And one of my best friends in the whole world. Or it did. She's married and has a youngster, but for a while there.....
Too much makeup, too much swearing, too much booze/sex.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
Could describe my coworker, who I like.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 25, 2017 04:13 PM (hJrjt)
And one of my best friends in the whole world. Or it did. She's married and has a youngster, but for a while there.....
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 04:21 PM (TOk1P)
528
Not match-grade ... but dependable.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (tcQdP)
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Most DPMS rifles are comm spec rather than mill spec.
Doesnt mean theyre not good rifles, just means theyre not mil spec.
Gun snobs will bash them.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 04:19 PM (tcQdP)
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Most DPMS rifles are comm spec rather than mill spec.
Doesnt mean theyre not good rifles, just means theyre not mil spec.
Gun snobs will bash them.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (8XRCm)
529
If Muslims take over I guess we won't be seeing any reruns of Lassie on television, or Old Yeller.
But the remake of the series Threes Company will be a hit along with the burkas the women will be wearing
But the remake of the series Threes Company will be a hit along with the burkas the women will be wearing
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (Ot7+c)
530
I know!!! Great idea...
A combination of extreme vetting, deportations, visa/travel bans from bad countries and bombing the snot out of the bad Hombres!!
May take a few years, but before you know it - this shit will stop.
You say DJT already made these same suggestions??
I don't believe it! He's not a serious president.
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A combination of extreme vetting, deportations, visa/travel bans from bad countries and bombing the snot out of the bad Hombres!!
May take a few years, but before you know it - this shit will stop.
You say DJT already made these same suggestions??
I don't believe it! He's not a serious president.
//
Posted by: dananjcon at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (WLK0w)
531
I live in Bozeman, MT, where last night's kerfuffle took place. College town, so blue, so I haven't even bothered to read local reporting. A few thoughts:
1. I've been worried about this election for a while. My husband (liberal) has had several calls from Quist people. I've had nothing. Oddly, I feel better about it now. Can't say why.
2. Don't worry about Gianforte's future career. He's a dot.com billionaire. He doesn't need GoFundMe to pay lawyers.
3. He's also Italian. To Italians, revenge is an art form. I've been married to one for decades, I know.
4. Alice Whomever and Ben Jacobs better be praying he wins.
1. I've been worried about this election for a while. My husband (liberal) has had several calls from Quist people. I've had nothing. Oddly, I feel better about it now. Can't say why.
2. Don't worry about Gianforte's future career. He's a dot.com billionaire. He doesn't need GoFundMe to pay lawyers.
3. He's also Italian. To Italians, revenge is an art form. I've been married to one for decades, I know.
4. Alice Whomever and Ben Jacobs better be praying he wins.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (Kr0FZ)
532
So so woke....
@WashTimes 37m
'Wonder Woman' given female-only screening at Alamo Drafthouse: 'No guys allowed'
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Guys?! You penis is the price of admission! Let me tell you, it was worth it!
@WashTimes 37m
'Wonder Woman' given female-only screening at Alamo Drafthouse: 'No guys allowed'
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Guys?! You penis is the price of admission! Let me tell you, it was worth it!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at May 25, 2017 04:23 PM (vRcUp)
533
I'm kind of curious, but if she is *adamantly* set
on her children being raised as Christian, it sounds like she is a
serious believer. Which is great. I'm sure, though, that you probably
explained Paul's admonition about being "unequally yoked" with
unbelievers to her, and what does she think about that? If that passage
doesn't apply to the marriage covenant, I don't know what it would apply
to.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (YMLsE)
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I hear ya and I totally agree. We're talking church twice a week, home school, Christian school non-rebellious young lady. I don't know what's going on in her head. She streams her church service from here in America online and watches every Sunday. He watches with her. I don't know. Love. Highly over-rated IMO
on her children being raised as Christian, it sounds like she is a
serious believer. Which is great. I'm sure, though, that you probably
explained Paul's admonition about being "unequally yoked" with
unbelievers to her, and what does she think about that? If that passage
doesn't apply to the marriage covenant, I don't know what it would apply
to.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (YMLsE)
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I hear ya and I totally agree. We're talking church twice a week, home school, Christian school non-rebellious young lady. I don't know what's going on in her head. She streams her church service from here in America online and watches every Sunday. He watches with her. I don't know. Love. Highly over-rated IMO
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:23 PM (dFi94)
534
"(cute, now, because Roberts has etched his own two gigantic
contributions into the process - and discarding statutory construction
deserves a special mention, given its audacity and truly destructive
potential impact)"
But, you see, this is what we have inferred that Congress _actually meant_ to say. So we here on the Court have just touched things up a bit. No big deal. The Founding Fathers would surely agree.
contributions into the process - and discarding statutory construction
deserves a special mention, given its audacity and truly destructive
potential impact)"
But, you see, this is what we have inferred that Congress _actually meant_ to say. So we here on the Court have just touched things up a bit. No big deal. The Founding Fathers would surely agree.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 04:24 PM (ujwCG)
535
The IRA was armed in no small degree by Libya, at the direction of and with assistance from the KGB . Turtles all the way down.
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FTFY!
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FTFY!
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2017 04:24 PM (Pcs3e)
536
Gracepc - still, it was odd, to put ot mildly. Uighurs - hell, even the red Chinese have had trouble with them - but a Kazakh? My central asian chums and cronies were dumbstruck when the word got out.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (TwwWO)
537
'Wonder Woman' given female-only screening at Alamo Drafthouse: 'No guys allowed'
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So the highest form of tolerance is involuntarily separating the sexes and the races? Is that what they're saying?
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So the highest form of tolerance is involuntarily separating the sexes and the races? Is that what they're saying?
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (aT+Bx)
538
Ignoramus - you might have said this, waaaay back, on the occasion of the first judicial usurpation, in WA state - but I would have simply rejected the court's authority to interfere in established and lawful executive functions.
Accepting the absurd and lawless premise of the entire proceeding - that the court has jurisdiction or policy powers, that there can be any plaintiffs with standing - renders whatever follows pointless and silly.
You gain nothing by indulging a lawless, arrogant, and (check out their ruling) stupid group of judges.
Accepting the absurd and lawless premise of the entire proceeding - that the court has jurisdiction or policy powers, that there can be any plaintiffs with standing - renders whatever follows pointless and silly.
You gain nothing by indulging a lawless, arrogant, and (check out their ruling) stupid group of judges.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (QDnY+)
539
Grammie,
I believe God is in control and we don't always understand His reasons. He has a plan for your daughter's marriage. And if I am wrong about that, He will certainly watch over your daughter.
I believe God is in control and we don't always understand His reasons. He has a plan for your daughter's marriage. And if I am wrong about that, He will certainly watch over your daughter.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: ThunderB at May 25, 2017 04:26 PM (eApHj)
541
My one experience with DPMS was not positive.
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what's wrong with them?
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (Pcs3e)
I'd like to hear as well ... Oracles I've shot were fine. Owners I've known were pleased.
Not match-grade ... but dependable.
Posted by: ScoggDog
I've heard numerous complaints about fit & finish, sub optimal quality parts, not properly headspaced, jams, extractions. All factory new.
Enough that I know there are numerous other manufacturers out there that I can take my chances on them.
Sorta like DPMS is the Hi Point of AR's.
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what's wrong with them?
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (Pcs3e)
I'd like to hear as well ... Oracles I've shot were fine. Owners I've known were pleased.
Not match-grade ... but dependable.
Posted by: ScoggDog
I've heard numerous complaints about fit & finish, sub optimal quality parts, not properly headspaced, jams, extractions. All factory new.
Enough that I know there are numerous other manufacturers out there that I can take my chances on them.
Sorta like DPMS is the Hi Point of AR's.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:26 PM (4BGeF)
542
Gun snobs will bash them.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (8XRCm)
Meh ... if Till had a problem, I'd like to hear it.
Of course, I'm about as big a Gun Whore as I am a Whore Whore. Just ain't that many I don't like.
I love my Mini-14 ... and according to many ... it's an piss-poor boat oar.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (8XRCm)
Meh ... if Till had a problem, I'd like to hear it.
Of course, I'm about as big a Gun Whore as I am a Whore Whore. Just ain't that many I don't like.
I love my Mini-14 ... and according to many ... it's an piss-poor boat oar.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 04:26 PM (tcQdP)
543
N00d BDSM
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2017 04:27 PM (z/Ubi)
544
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 04:11 PM (tcQdP)
Yep. Just keep on moving and follow through on the EOs. If the courts want to take it further they can do so. But the EO gets implemented.
Yep. Just keep on moving and follow through on the EOs. If the courts want to take it further they can do so. But the EO gets implemented.
Posted by: gracepc at May 25, 2017 04:27 PM (OU4q6)
545
Sorta like DPMS is the Hi Point of AR's.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:26 PM (4BGeF)
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They aint THAT bad.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:26 PM (4BGeF)
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They aint THAT bad.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 04:27 PM (8XRCm)
546
Each time a Moslem terrorist blows up people, the leftists have the opportunity to:
1. Race to a camera / microphone and warn about the dangers of Islamophobia. (Virtue Signal)
2. Demand more 'programs' to assist Moslem immigrants here in the West. (More government spending - opportunities for graft)
3. Further erode the civil liberties of the whole country for 'safety'. (Increase Government Power)
From the left, unless the terrorists blow them, personally, up, there is no down side. They WANT Islamic Terrorists in the country blowing other people up.
1. Race to a camera / microphone and warn about the dangers of Islamophobia. (Virtue Signal)
2. Demand more 'programs' to assist Moslem immigrants here in the West. (More government spending - opportunities for graft)
3. Further erode the civil liberties of the whole country for 'safety'. (Increase Government Power)
From the left, unless the terrorists blow them, personally, up, there is no down side. They WANT Islamic Terrorists in the country blowing other people up.
Posted by: JB1000 at May 25, 2017 04:27 PM (16OL0)
547
532 So so woke....
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Posted by: weft cut-loop
Guys?! You penis is the price of admission! Let me tell you, it was worth it!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at May 25, 2017 04:23 PM (vRcUp)
Brucelyn was a sucker. Most trannies don't get it cut off anymore.
@WashTimes 37m
'Wonder Woman' given female-only screening at Alamo Drafthouse: 'No guys allowed'
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Guys?! You penis is the price of admission! Let me tell you, it was worth it!
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at May 25, 2017 04:23 PM (vRcUp)
Brucelyn was a sucker. Most trannies don't get it cut off anymore.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 04:27 PM (ULi11)
548
Trump should have told these judges they were wrong and to go pound sand, not I will see u in court. As rhomboid suggests, this is a disturbing matter, people are not seeing this as the coup it is. They confuse tribal loyalty to law and what they personally want as being the same as valid law.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 04:28 PM (idhyN)
549
537 'Wonder Woman' given female-only screening at Alamo Drafthouse: 'No guys allowed'
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So the highest form of tolerance is involuntarily separating the sexes and the races? Is that what they're saying?
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (aT+Bx)
Isn't part of Wonder Woman about her rejecting the idea of the Amazons should be cut off from "the world of men."
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So the highest form of tolerance is involuntarily separating the sexes and the races? Is that what they're saying?
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (aT+Bx)
Isn't part of Wonder Woman about her rejecting the idea of the Amazons should be cut off from "the world of men."
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2017 04:28 PM (z/Ubi)
550
"4. Alice Whomever and Ben Jacobs better be praying he wins."
The Gallatin County sheriff has now apparently sworn out assault charges against Gianforte, based presumably in part on the statement by Alicia Airheada that she saw Gianforte grabbing Jacobs "by the neck with both hands".
Since AA has now carefully retroactively amended her observation to say that, well, golly, no, it wasn't a neck grab, she could find herself in considerable hot water. That whole "false statements to police" business.
The Gallatin County sheriff has now apparently sworn out assault charges against Gianforte, based presumably in part on the statement by Alicia Airheada that she saw Gianforte grabbing Jacobs "by the neck with both hands".
Since AA has now carefully retroactively amended her observation to say that, well, golly, no, it wasn't a neck grab, she could find herself in considerable hot water. That whole "false statements to police" business.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 04:28 PM (ujwCG)
551
I believe God is in control and we don't always
understand His reasons. He has a plan for your daughter's marriage. And
if I am wrong about that, He will certainly watch over your daughter.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (Lqy/e)
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Yes, God is on the throne and nothing takes him by surprise. My hope is this will open up a way for the Holy Spirit to work in this young man's life and lead him to faith in Christ. Thank you. (just to clarify, this is a family member but not my daughter. My daughter is married to an electrician who would light you up if you got near her
understand His reasons. He has a plan for your daughter's marriage. And
if I am wrong about that, He will certainly watch over your daughter.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (Lqy/e)
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Yes, God is on the throne and nothing takes him by surprise. My hope is this will open up a way for the Holy Spirit to work in this young man's life and lead him to faith in Christ. Thank you. (just to clarify, this is a family member but not my daughter. My daughter is married to an electrician who would light you up if you got near her
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:29 PM (dFi94)
552
Love. Highly over-rated IMO
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:23 PM
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High five to you for that grammie!
Also, if he is watching with her, perhaps he is Christian curious, and open to conversion at some point. Which would be easier of they're living here of course.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2017 04:23 PM
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High five to you for that grammie!
Also, if he is watching with her, perhaps he is Christian curious, and open to conversion at some point. Which would be easier of they're living here of course.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 04:29 PM (aT+Bx)
553
545 Sorta like DPMS is the Hi Point of AR's.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:26 PM (4BGeF)
Bought my kids each a 995 one year.
Like I said. Gun Whore.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 04:26 PM (4BGeF)
Bought my kids each a 995 one year.
Like I said. Gun Whore.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 04:30 PM (tcQdP)
554
446
It is not so much "the Left has won".
It's the corporatists who won.
Yeah. You nailed it. It's all about the money at the top of the food chain.
We're just consumables to them.
It is not so much "the Left has won".
It's the corporatists who won.
Yeah. You nailed it. It's all about the money at the top of the food chain.
We're just consumables to them.
Posted by: kraki at May 25, 2017 04:30 PM (TNa9O)
555
Greetings, Wenda: @ 531 (sic) at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (Kr0FZ)
What I learned bout them eye-talians when I was growing up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s was that "what isn't an opera is a vendetta".
What I learned bout them eye-talians when I was growing up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s was that "what isn't an opera is a vendetta".
Posted by: 11B40 at May 25, 2017 04:30 PM (evgyj)
556
You gain nothing by indulging a lawless, arrogant, and (check out their ruling) stupid group of judges. Rhomboid
Yep.
Trump was like see u in court, the error trying to wok in the failing framework and on the corrupted battl fi led, etc.
Yep.
Trump was like see u in court, the error trying to wok in the failing framework and on the corrupted battl fi led, etc.
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 04:31 PM (idhyN)
557
Mr. Sulu: Captain Obama, the Klingons are attacking! Should we launch the photon torpedoes?
Capt. Obama: That's not who we are. We have oppressed them long enough. Are you aware that they have their own language and culture? Are you aware that there are a number of the on board that I have brought here as crewmen? They would not stand for it. No, send the hailing frequency. We will tell them that they may destroy us. We deserve it. But wait until I give you confirmation that I have reached the escape pod.
Capt. Obama: That's not who we are. We have oppressed them long enough. Are you aware that they have their own language and culture? Are you aware that there are a number of the on board that I have brought here as crewmen? They would not stand for it. No, send the hailing frequency. We will tell them that they may destroy us. We deserve it. But wait until I give you confirmation that I have reached the escape pod.
Posted by: Star Trek: Obama at May 25, 2017 04:32 PM (vRcUp)
558
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 25, 2017 04:22 PM (Kr0FZ)
Very interesting, thanks for the perspective!
Very interesting, thanks for the perspective!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 04:33 PM (evJdV)
559
Marcus, aye, but the rub is - the aware and focused part of the electorate - it's clearly not that large. Maybe, on a macro basis, over time - the "this is how you got Trump" effect, OK - but as "Me" points out, the lawfare now is "total war" - procedural as well as substantive.
And his point is even more depressing, when you think about it.
SCOTUS is limited to accepting only so many cases per term.
The lawless lower courts may now rationally calculate that they can swamp the system, even on their brazen decisions flouting SCOTUS precedent. After all, SCOTUS will only be able to deal with a finite number per term.
So, an aggressive strategist among the lower court super-legislators/imperial counsels could calculate that quadrupling their lawlessness is a decent strategy. SCOTUS will only be able to nuke them on a few - on the rest, in effect, THEY become the high court (at least for a time).
Ditto for state legislatures. Sacramento can go full Khmer Rouge on any number of fronts, knowing their chances of being reversed prior to SCOTUS are nil, and the chances of SCOTUS review are slim.
And his point is even more depressing, when you think about it.
SCOTUS is limited to accepting only so many cases per term.
The lawless lower courts may now rationally calculate that they can swamp the system, even on their brazen decisions flouting SCOTUS precedent. After all, SCOTUS will only be able to deal with a finite number per term.
So, an aggressive strategist among the lower court super-legislators/imperial counsels could calculate that quadrupling their lawlessness is a decent strategy. SCOTUS will only be able to nuke them on a few - on the rest, in effect, THEY become the high court (at least for a time).
Ditto for state legislatures. Sacramento can go full Khmer Rouge on any number of fronts, knowing their chances of being reversed prior to SCOTUS are nil, and the chances of SCOTUS review are slim.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 04:34 PM (QDnY+)
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536
Gracepc - still, it was odd, to put ot mildly. Uighurs - hell, even the
red Chinese have had trouble with them - but a Kazakh? My central asian
chums and cronies were dumbstruck when the word got out.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan!
No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (TwwWO)
The Chinese seem to have the Uighurs well in hand.I agree and I was putting out there what you already know. The Kazakhs are not exactly the leading crazy Muslims of the Stans -- the Uzbeks would probably take that mantle. But even they are low ball players if at all.After the collapse and their Independence it seems like the resurrection of Muslims or Islam never really caught on in Central Asia.
I haven't looked at the details , but probably most of these Central Asian guys wandered in looking for work, and then made a left turn.Since you seem to be well connected to people expert with swords I think that will be my last comment on the peoples of Kazakhstan. Teasing.
Gracepc - still, it was odd, to put ot mildly. Uighurs - hell, even the
red Chinese have had trouble with them - but a Kazakh? My central asian
chums and cronies were dumbstruck when the word got out.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan!
No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 25, 2017 04:25 PM (TwwWO)
The Chinese seem to have the Uighurs well in hand.I agree and I was putting out there what you already know. The Kazakhs are not exactly the leading crazy Muslims of the Stans -- the Uzbeks would probably take that mantle. But even they are low ball players if at all.After the collapse and their Independence it seems like the resurrection of Muslims or Islam never really caught on in Central Asia.
I haven't looked at the details , but probably most of these Central Asian guys wandered in looking for work, and then made a left turn.Since you seem to be well connected to people expert with swords I think that will be my last comment on the peoples of Kazakhstan.
Teasing.Posted by: gracepc at May 25, 2017 04:39 PM (OU4q6)
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OT: ZeroHedge is reporting that Twitter has suspended World Net Daily's account because of a Seth Rich Tweet.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 04:40 PM (aT+Bx)
562
560
536
Oh I forgot. Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials. I wish you all the best. I have enjoyed your tellings.
536
Oh I forgot. Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials. I wish you all the best. I have enjoyed your tellings.
Posted by: gracepc at May 25, 2017 04:41 PM (OU4q6)
563
11B40 @ 555: Yup!
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 25, 2017 04:53 PM (Kr0FZ)
564
Another reason, if we needed one, why the police should never, ever be blindly trusted. As if Rotherham isn't enough of a reason.
Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 25, 2017 05:14 PM (MkRdb)
565
559 Marcus, aye, but the rub is - the aware and focused part of the electorate - it's clearly not that large. Maybe, on a macro basis, over time - the "this is how you got Trump" effect, OK - but as "Me" points out, the lawfare now is "total war" - procedural as well as substantive
Yep.
All they do is re rule on essentially same holdings, or with new justifiers of even reversed, to get their way and use time to their advantage if need be.
They can even just ignore scotus rulings, claim a new seeming ddecision and know with that lawfare scotus takes so many cases per term and does not have to grant cert on constitutional questions by force.
Example is suppose we had a reversed versin activist judge on th right, a lot rarer, who denied using new arguments roe wade and Casey v pp. or even boldly denied full bore with Ut even really rearguing why. Some plaintiff they want to argue has standing they claim does, and they just go for it. Even on something like that justice delayed is denied, so the pregnancy goes on. I don't agree with roe, I'm just making the point in reverse. Its lawfare. You can win on delay or gumming it up.
That's why one idea for trump on the ban was to to include one new country like sweden which is not even mostly Muslim on the order daily issued. That's lawfare in reverse, he issues mostly the same travel ban but can legit argue with straight face it's a new order, issued each day, and the time it takes for review and judge to write a new opinion rebuking it will be defeated to accomplish the goals of enforcement by the daily fake new order.
Two can play this dirty game. Instead, he gave legitimacy to this farce instead of ignoring and going ahead, and said see u in court. That's dumb...
Yep.
All they do is re rule on essentially same holdings, or with new justifiers of even reversed, to get their way and use time to their advantage if need be.
They can even just ignore scotus rulings, claim a new seeming ddecision and know with that lawfare scotus takes so many cases per term and does not have to grant cert on constitutional questions by force.
Example is suppose we had a reversed versin activist judge on th right, a lot rarer, who denied using new arguments roe wade and Casey v pp. or even boldly denied full bore with Ut even really rearguing why. Some plaintiff they want to argue has standing they claim does, and they just go for it. Even on something like that justice delayed is denied, so the pregnancy goes on. I don't agree with roe, I'm just making the point in reverse. Its lawfare. You can win on delay or gumming it up.
That's why one idea for trump on the ban was to to include one new country like sweden which is not even mostly Muslim on the order daily issued. That's lawfare in reverse, he issues mostly the same travel ban but can legit argue with straight face it's a new order, issued each day, and the time it takes for review and judge to write a new opinion rebuking it will be defeated to accomplish the goals of enforcement by the daily fake new order.
Two can play this dirty game. Instead, he gave legitimacy to this farce instead of ignoring and going ahead, and said see u in court. That's dumb...
Posted by: Me at May 25, 2017 05:24 PM (idhyN)
566
europe just don't care that muslims are attacking taxpayers.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
LOTS of money pouring in from Riyadh, Doha, and Dubai.
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Not apathy.
Corruption.
In other words, islam has bought the west, and is turning western governments against their citizens.
NONE of you understand. The welfare states of Europe are running out of taxpayers to fund their nanny, babying governments, and rather than have the courage to tell their people "Um, sorry, go pay for this stuff yourself", they import taxpayers in the hopes of them becoming productive taxpaying citizens.
The consequences matter not, because THEY NEED THE MONEY. Germany, for instance, has not really had an adult conversation among themselves concerning the consequences to their culture of importing vast amounts of people who have a religious disdain for pork and beer - two items that are central to German culture. And not only that, but the government there DOES NOT CARE in the slightest. The ONLY thing Bundeskanzlerin Merkel, et al care about is that THEY NEED THE MONEY.
I put the blame on nanny state socialism every bit as much, if not more, on the problem than Islam.
Why is that?
I'm curious.
Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 03:07 PM (aT+Bx)
LOTS of money pouring in from Riyadh, Doha, and Dubai.
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Not apathy.
Corruption.
In other words, islam has bought the west, and is turning western governments against their citizens.
NONE of you understand. The welfare states of Europe are running out of taxpayers to fund their nanny, babying governments, and rather than have the courage to tell their people "Um, sorry, go pay for this stuff yourself", they import taxpayers in the hopes of them becoming productive taxpaying citizens.
The consequences matter not, because THEY NEED THE MONEY. Germany, for instance, has not really had an adult conversation among themselves concerning the consequences to their culture of importing vast amounts of people who have a religious disdain for pork and beer - two items that are central to German culture. And not only that, but the government there DOES NOT CARE in the slightest. The ONLY thing Bundeskanzlerin Merkel, et al care about is that THEY NEED THE MONEY.
I put the blame on nanny state socialism every bit as much, if not more, on the problem than Islam.
Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 25, 2017 05:39 PM (MkRdb)
567
Maybe they would have more capacity to monitor high level terror prospects if they spent less time monitoring regular citizens.
Posted by: Dogbert at May 25, 2017 06:23 PM (H34/T)
568
Security services only watch, or don't even bother to watch, because they don't know what to arrest even the most dedicated Islamic jihadists for until they actually commit their terrorist acts, or at least put a mass murder plot into motion, but there is one very grave crime they could arrest them for at any time under current law: conspiracy to commit murder. Small "o" orthodox Islam is a perfectly explicit conspiracy to commit endless mass murder until "all religion is for Allah alone." This orthodoxy is codified in sharia law, the product of 1400 years of established Islamic jurisprudence. Anyone who seeks to impose sharia (more than half of all Muslims in every Western country) should be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit murder.
Posted by: Alec Rawls at May 25, 2017 07:15 PM (5SpNa)
569
Gave this advice to candidate Romney but maybe Trump could better implement it: establish a "Strong Horse Is Terrible" list. On it go all nations who do not allow equal rights to all religions and to men and women. Any violence against any American anywhere in the world will be deemed to have arisen from one or more of these nations, and will be answered with extreme violent force.
There are only two ways for a country to get off the "S.H.I.T." list:
1. Pass and enforce laws prohibiting advocating or perpetrating violence against other religions, allow complete freedom of worship, and mandate equality of the sexes, or;
2. Have your country, your countrymen and yourself converted into a sphere of incandescent gases several miles in diameter, expanding at hypersonic velocity.
There are only two ways for a country to get off the "S.H.I.T." list:
1. Pass and enforce laws prohibiting advocating or perpetrating violence against other religions, allow complete freedom of worship, and mandate equality of the sexes, or;
2. Have your country, your countrymen and yourself converted into a sphere of incandescent gases several miles in diameter, expanding at hypersonic velocity.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 25, 2017 07:25 PM (LeUrG)
570
And when 20-100 families in America bury their dead, it's the price we pay for letting in people we don't know, didn't legally let in, or Obama let in.
Trump will win in 2020 and the courts will never stop letting in enemies.
Korematsu was decided correctly. Lock up suspicious Muslims.
Trump will win in 2020 and the courts will never stop letting in enemies.
Korematsu was decided correctly. Lock up suspicious Muslims.
Posted by: Joe Mack at May 25, 2017 08:10 PM (SEFXb)
571
We have too few doing important work, with too little incentive to act, while we have too many doing outright unlawful things against those who pose no threat.
Without going into detail. I will summarize: the local police paid my 18-year-old son a visit because he had posted a picture of burning sneakers on Instagram with the caption, "My sneakers are lit." (Apparently, teenage cool talk.) Months later, he posted a picture of a guy wearing a shirt that read "No opponents' Only victims," with the snarky caption, "Only a school shooter would wear this."
No threat. No imminent danger. No reason to suspect malice. But the cops show up to question him.
A gross violation of 1A, the police state intruding where it has no business...because he is a white kid who poses absolutely no threat.
F*** this government. Oh so willing to shit on our rights, while turning away from dangerous people who pose a clear and present peril.
Without going into detail. I will summarize: the local police paid my 18-year-old son a visit because he had posted a picture of burning sneakers on Instagram with the caption, "My sneakers are lit." (Apparently, teenage cool talk.) Months later, he posted a picture of a guy wearing a shirt that read "No opponents' Only victims," with the snarky caption, "Only a school shooter would wear this."
No threat. No imminent danger. No reason to suspect malice. But the cops show up to question him.
A gross violation of 1A, the police state intruding where it has no business...because he is a white kid who poses absolutely no threat.
F*** this government. Oh so willing to shit on our rights, while turning away from dangerous people who pose a clear and present peril.
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Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat