Cowbell? New Jobless Claims Rise At Lowest Rate In 44 Years

"New" jobless claims, contrasted to continuing jobless status, and it's the rate of increase not the absolute level that's particularly tiny but still, that's a nice mark: Only 1000 new applicants in May.

Thursday's report beat forecasters' expectations, which were for new jobless claims, adjusted for seasonal variations, to rise to 237,000.
And it provided a good sign for the economy. Few claims indicate that layoffs are rare, and that, in turn, net job creation is strong.

Economists believe the real growth sector in the economy is Internet Trolls paid by Russian Spymasters to Hack the Election.

It begins again...?

Posted by: Ace at 12:39 PM

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1 Cadillac

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 12:40 PM (FZYNt)

2 steak knives

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 12:40 PM (FZYNt)

3 G'mornin Ace.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 25, 2017 12:40 PM (ukNFU)

4 pink slip

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 12:40 PM (FZYNt)

5 damn. almost

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 12:40 PM (FZYNt)

6 Is the real rate still north of 20%?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 25, 2017 12:42 PM (4ErVI)

7 Just think how well we could be doing if only Shillery was elected.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 25, 2017 12:42 PM (jsWA8)

8 Next Media Narrative?

OMG! Rampant Inflation is just around the corner!

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 12:42 PM (XSEwK)

9 I expect the MSM's headline to be truncated: New Jobless Claims Rise

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 25, 2017 12:43 PM (43OZ6)

10 I still trust nothing for the Fed, way too many blue deep staters hanging around.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 12:43 PM (le7jz)

11 Anything good that happens is clearly the lingering effect of Obama's brilliant economic policies.

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 12:43 PM (rmVvL)

12
See SEEEEE!!!!

*flails about wildly

Greenshoots!!!! Obama's Recovery.

THIS VALIDATES OBAMAS ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES PEOPLE!!!!!!

**flails about wildly some more

Posted by: fixerupper at May 25, 2017 12:43 PM (8XRCm)

13 Ain't great, but it's something.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 12:43 PM (0mRoj)

14
Next Media Narrative?

OMG! Rampant Inflation is just around the corner!
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 12:42 PM

I'd like to get a couple more percent interest on my savings.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2017 12:44 PM (IqV8l)

15 Good morning, Captain Ace.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 12:44 PM (jTUfG)

16 OMG! Rampant Inflation is just around the corner!
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 12:42 PM (XSEwK)

Maybe after the kids are in bed ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:44 PM (tcQdP)

17 Good grief. Where are your manners. It's MOAR Cowbell.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 12:44 PM (sQgZv)

18 I expect the MSM's headline to be truncated: New Jobless Claims Rise

They're too busy with RUSSIA and the Montana whooping....

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 25, 2017 12:45 PM (O2RFr)

19 Next Media Narrative?

Or how the improving economy leads to more traffic accidents/deaths.

I'm not actually making that up- I saw that somewhere this morning. I'll try to find it again.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 25, 2017 12:45 PM (u0s1P)

20 Is the real rate still north of 20%?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

Probably close to 30%.
If 93 million are still out of work out of 330 million.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:46 PM (4BGeF)

21 Trump body slamming Montenegro PM at NATO HQ to get in front....Ha!!

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 25, 2017 12:46 PM (N/v1f)

22 CNan states it's a continuation of what Obama started in 3,2,1...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 12:46 PM (sQgZv)

23 The economy is partly a confidence game.

Just like Football, other sports, and even war. Attitude and momentum matter. Trump has set the right attitude.

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 12:46 PM (XSEwK)

24 ... and nice gratuitous tit-pic. Well played, Mr. O'Spades.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (tcQdP)

25 nice rack

butter face

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (FZYNt)

26 Just think how well we could be doing if only Shillery was elected.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 25, 2017 12:42 PM (jsWA

Rat meat would be going $2 a pound.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (hLRSq)

27 "The real growth sector in the economy is Internet Trolls paid by Russian Spymasters to Hack the Election" ......... for Hillary. They failed, barely, and this explains the rage directed against them by the Democrats.

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (d3wbb)

28 Our local media are doing the MFM's work by telling the FSA's and LIV's that Trump wants to make them starve to death by cutting food stamps.

They're totally ignoring the fact that there are more jobs available here now, and new home construction and sales are up.

In 2008, there was a yuge multi-million $$$$ riverfront development in the planning stages, that was going to be an extension of the Historic District, that was cancelled.

Front page of today's paper is it's back on.

So yeah, Trump has been a disaster.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (PY9jH)

29 And from the art thread: "From Drudge: California farmers face urgent shortage of farm workers, blame Trump"
===

Man, I'm no fancy economist, but I suspect there is a correlation between "wages offered" and "workers available."

Almost something like "higher wages draws more workers who will seek out those higher wages."

But, that's racist math an' such.

I also suspect we're about to be hit with "do you want to pay more for your lettuce? Huh, do you?"
"Do you want to pick lettuce?"

From the same crowd who is demanding $15/hr at McDonalds.
On behalf of corporate farms with millions in revenue.
The Chamber of Commerce crowd will also chime in, as always, against the interests of Americans.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (ZQpd0)

30 And the market continues to fly upward.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (sQgZv)

31 That pic certainly does show some mighty impressive growth.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (YMLsE)

32 Elbows for Growth!

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (pXi0m)

33 nice rack

butter face

Face down, butt up, mouthful of pillow - never see her face.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (4BGeF)

34 Totally off topic ( from the last thread)

Yes, go back into the archives on the sidebar and look at the last 2-3 Saturday chess threads and you will see what dress pr0n pics I've posted that I think will appeal to you 'ettes.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 12:43 PM (YMLsE)

Thank you, OregonMuse!!

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (oQQwD)

35 25 nice rack
butter face
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (FZYNt)

So ... you don't mind if I call dibs ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (tcQdP)

36 I would like to apply for the job of admiring the bosom of the lass in the picture.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (hP3d7)

37 That's the breast forecast I've seen all week.

Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (2Mnv1)

38 >>Face down, butt up, mouthful of pillow - never see her face. Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (4BGeF)

You will send your newsletter to Zod.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 12:49 PM (Bdeb0)

39 >>>> I expect the MSM's headline to be truncated: New Jobless Claims Rise

They're too busy with RUSSIA and the Montana whooping....
.
.
.Yeah funny isn't it? Not a single story that I can find on any network about Debbie "needs to wash her hair" Wasserman actually on freaking video during a Committee hearing overtly trying to influence a DC Capitol Police investigation.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 12:49 PM (le7jz)

40 Lower unemployment = increased global warming + exactly what the terrorists want.

IT'S SCIENCE!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2017 12:49 PM (I92iB)

41 Vast tracts of land. You might say Yuuuge.

*Gestures with hands cupped*

Bigly.

Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 12:49 PM (xVRrG)

42 I still think its smoke and mirrors. Even with Trump as President.

The labor participation rate is still way too low, last I saw, more adults were working in the early 2000s than today despite the population increase.

Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 12:49 PM (SCkw/)

43 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (hP3d7)

44 I'd love to be able to hack the blog and replace big-tittied girl with a pic of Mooch with her top falling off one shoulder.

Just for shits and giggles.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (PY9jH)

45 >>California farmers face urgent shortage of farm workers, blame Trump

I often lament not being able to pay my workers 3rd world wages, too.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (pXi0m)

46 The Ds would bitch and complain if Trump help discover a new source of energy that was non polluting and cost the equivalent of $0.25/gallon of gasoline. They would complain that it is putting oil field workers out of work. That ot enough CO2 were being emitted so now all the plants are going to die.
They would complain if an R found a gold mine because it had dirt in it.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (uBQPh)

47 Well this just won't do.

How can we Cloward-Piven the country to death if EVERYBODY isn't on Welfare?

-The Demoncrats

Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (frZol)

48 Oh, yeah. Alexthechick's Twitter feed is where I found this gem:

http://tinyurl.com/kkgtpmr

(I hope her Maleveolence forgives me for stealing her thunder.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (u0s1P)

49 Perhaps that young lady could help Barack Obama learn to speak Austrian?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (aZq03)

50 Why the "don't give a shit's and are living in ex-wife's trailer" aren't segregated from the "unemployed but working ass off to find a job" and simply statistically discarded is beyond me.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (Bdeb0)

51 Does she come with the statistics?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (nlbfN)

52 I also suspect we're about to be hit with "do you want to pay more for your lettuce? Huh, do you?"
"Do you want to pick lettuce?"

From the same crowd who is demanding $15/hr at McDonalds.

#1. I hate lettuce.
#2. You want $15/hr? Get a fucking simple burger order right.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:51 PM (4BGeF)

53 Deutsche Bank just laughed at the Democrats inquiry on financial activity related to Trumps organization prior to him b coming president. They wanted to know if the RUSSIANS were involved in any transactions.

Yeah let's just discuss confidential financial activity with a bunch of subversives.

This is my shocked face :-/

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 12:51 PM (sQgZv)

54 How insensitive!

Posted by: ESPN and Kellog's at May 25, 2017 12:51 PM (vRcUp)

55 I'm jealous.

Posted by: Marie Harf at May 25, 2017 12:51 PM (AMIL/)

56 43 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork

She would have been a 10, but her face....

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 12:51 PM (FZYNt)

57 Best jobs report in recent mammary.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2017 12:51 PM (I92iB)

58 "Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 12:50 PM (PY9jH)"

Please don't. I'm at lunch.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 25, 2017 12:52 PM (sQgZv)

59 Everything's good butterface.

Posted by: Admiral Snackbar at May 25, 2017 12:52 PM (vtcmf)

60 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.

"She's hot, but her face!"

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:52 PM (4BGeF)

61 Face down, butt up, mouthful of pillow -- never see her face.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (4BGeF)
And you can watch the hockey game at the same time!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2017 12:52 PM (nlbfN)

62 That's one of the nicest paintings I've seen at AoS! She looks very...healthy.

Posted by: Crusader at May 25, 2017 12:52 PM (ewSN2)

63 The entirety of the BLS data is crap. Completely corrupted by Obama to hide the disaster of unemployment under his watch.

When the Trump economy starts working will the unemployment rate go to -1%?

Posted by: MAGA at May 25, 2017 12:53 PM (LQ1Q3)

64 So...we gonna start seeing Trump numbers compared to "expectation" instead of Obama's to ensure that it's always can be spun as "disappointing"?

Because that never gets old!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 12:53 PM (NOIQH)

65 How do I join WCG?

And what is it?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 25, 2017 12:53 PM (K1Wp+)

66 Austrian! Yeah! "Throw a shrimp on the barbie!"

Posted by: Roscoe at May 25, 2017 12:53 PM (QxMUy)

67 http://tinyurl.com/kkgtpmr

(I hope her Maleveolence forgives me for stealing her thunder.)
Posted by: Lance McCormick

Minorities, women and children in child car seats hardest hit.

Is there no end to the perfidy of Trump?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 12:54 PM (RFeQD)

68 What does that picture have to do with the post? LOL

Not complain', just wonderin'.......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at May 25, 2017 12:54 PM (jjaLl)

69
The labor participation rate is still way too low, last I saw, more adults were working in the early 2000s than today despite the population increase.

Posted by: Maritime

But in the utopian future nobody has to work. We will just lay about and write poetry.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2017 12:54 PM (IqV8l)

70 Is there a bully reporting station around here? That old man just beat me up and broke my glasses..

Posted by: Ben Jacobs at May 25, 2017 12:54 PM (1BQGO)

71 Face down, butt up, mouthful of pillow -- never see her face.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:48 PM (4BGeF)

And you can watch the hockey game at the same time!
Posted by: andycanuck

+1000!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:54 PM (4BGeF)

72 A klaus barbi?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2017 12:54 PM (nlbfN)

73 If mammary serves, expectations were not that firm.

Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2017 12:54 PM (2Mnv1)

74 Dang! Is she one of these so-called "new claims"?

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 12:55 PM (UmSfZ)

75 It's not my fault for stealing the cookies from the cookie jar!

The Russians told me that if I didn't do it, Bobby from across the street was going to come in and steal those cookies!

Posted by: Little Jimmy Comey, 1970 at May 25, 2017 12:55 PM (m5dkR)

76 It's not my fault for usurping the role of the Attorney General and giving Hillary a pass on her crimes!

The Russians told me that if I didn't do it, Loretta Lynch was going to come in and give Hillary a pass on those crimes!

Posted by: James Comey, 2017 at May 25, 2017 12:55 PM (m5dkR)

77 What does that picture have to do with the post? LOL

Never question gratuitous bewbage.

Posted by: Admiral Snackbar at May 25, 2017 12:55 PM (vtcmf)

78 OK, I get it now. It's a funny angle, but her face (butter face) looks good to me.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at May 25, 2017 12:55 PM (hP3d7)

79 Best jobs report in recent mammary.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

And give me two pickets to Tittsburgh.

huh, what?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 12:55 PM (RFeQD)

80 Really guys? What's wrong with her face?? She looks pretty attractive to me. You morons who type I'd hit it when any picture of a female is posted!

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at May 25, 2017 12:56 PM (zRZaJ)

81 Only one way to improve Butter Face.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 25, 2017 12:56 PM (vV/gB)

82 Why the "don't give a shit's and are living in ex-wife's trailer" aren't segregated from the "unemployed but working ass off to find a job" and simply statistically discarded is beyond me.

One of the unemployment rates ignores those who have stopped looking. When the economy improves, the "stopped looking" number decreases, as many formerly discouraged are, uh, encouraged.

But not all, so eventually that number levels off.

That being said, the way the stats were massaged and adjusted, it's hard to know how accurate any of the numbers are or were. Ultimately, though, you know if you have a job, and you probably know if your neighbor does, and people respond more to that than vague numbers about "the economy."

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 25, 2017 12:56 PM (u0s1P)

83 Chris Wallace is as useless and border-line hysterical as Shemp.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (PY9jH)

84

Her hills are alive with the sound of...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (493sH)

85 What's wrong with her face?? She looks pretty attractive to me.

Me too.

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (UmSfZ)

86 Don't cheer. The Austrian chick is an H-1B holder. She's only got one real boob.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (nlbfN)

87 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (hLRSq)

Have I missed any recent Saga episodes, or have there just not been any?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (sEDyY)

88 >>http://tinyurl.com/kkgtpmr

(I hope her Maleveolence forgives me for stealing her thunder.)

LOL. That's almost as good as Chelsea's assertion that climate change, child marriage, and access to technology are super-dooper interconnected AND we need to focus, like a laser on a half dozen or so things.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (NOIQH)

89 Hmm? You say something? Sorry, was busy staring at the pictures...

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (01U0Z)

90 Is there a bully reporting station around here? That old man just beat me up and broke my glasses..
Posted by: Ben Jacobs

You mewling quim.....

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (RFeQD)

91 O/T Hoot! Texas just approved feral hog hunting from hot air balloons

Everybody come on down. This is what freedom is all about.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (le7jz)

92 Fire up the Austrian motorboats!

Posted by: Admiral Snackbar at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (vtcmf)

93
Chris Wallace is as useless and border-line hysterical as Shemp.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM

Like father, like son.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (IqV8l)

94 Her hills are alive with the sound of...
Posted by: TheQuietMan

motorboats?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (RFeQD)

95 "56 43 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork

She would have been a 10, but her face...."

Yes. Think Steffi Graf.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (OD2ni)

96 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

Cleanup on the entire thread !!!

*sigh*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

97 There's a joke about Austria and mountains in there somewhere.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 25, 2017 12:59 PM (YEelc)

98 You mark my words, the DOW will tank and will never recover, as long as this ignoramus is in office. We need another genius like Obama in order to return to the former prosperity of the past 8 years, while avoiding the Charybdis of destroying the planet through climate terrorism.

Posted by: Paul "krugs and kisses" Krugman at May 25, 2017 12:59 PM (vRcUp)

99 How do we know she's not an Australian who likes red and white horizontal stripes?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2017 12:59 PM (nlbfN)

100 Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 12:47 PM (ZQpd0)

They already have those ads on YouTube. I should have paid attention to who was paying for them, but clicked out before I thought of it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2017 12:59 PM (sEDyY)

101 What's wrong with her face?? She looks pretty attractive to me.

Me too.
Posted by: IP

It's a bad angle.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 12:59 PM (4BGeF)

102 I think she's pretty. Don't know what she's got to do with bullshit econ data, but I shall also not complain.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2017 12:59 PM (AURKQ)

103 Texas just approved feral hog hunting from hot air balloons
_______

Not sure how that works, balloons and the uncontrollable flight path and all but I'll go with it.

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 12:59 PM (UmSfZ)

104 Rush is reporting that Julie Banderas is backing off on her claim that Gianforte grabbed the Pajama Boy reporter by the throat.

I knew the 24-hour rule was gonna apply here.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (ul9CR)

105 >> ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

NO!

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (pXi0m)

106 88 LOL. That's almost as good as Chelsea's assertion that climate change, child marriage, and access to technology are super-dooper interconnected AND we need to focus, like a laser on a half dozen or so things.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (NOIQH)

Nonsense. EVERYBODY knows that the only way to stop Climate Change is to bring 50 Million More Muslims into the US.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (frZol)

107 There's a joke about Austria and mountains in there somewhere.

Climbing the Alps?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (4BGeF)

108 Words no longer in circulation or associated with jobs reports since January of 2017: "jobs saved."

Hmmmm, that may have been just something invented by the press to make their boyfriend look better.

Sorta like "holding out for a management position."

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (ZQpd0)

109 So what are teh boobies have to do with the jobs?

Posted by: dananjcon at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (WLK0w)

110 Oops. Alicia Acuna, not Julie Banderas. Mixed up my Fox babes.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (ul9CR)

111 BOOBS!

Posted by: Free Beer Tomorrow at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (LhaMt)

112 >>80
Really guys? What's wrong with her face?? Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at May 25, 2017 12:56 PM (zRZaJ)

Her face is ugly. That's what's wrong with her face.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (Bdeb0)

113 Texas just approved feral hog hunting from hot air balloons

I'm sure those nasty electrical lines won't be a problem as you're focusing on your aim.

This has "hold my beer" all over it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (PY9jH)

114 So what are teh boobies have to do with the jobs?

Everything.

Posted by: Admiral Snackbar at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (vtcmf)

115 What's wrong with her face?? She looks pretty attractive to me.

would you rather criticism of her elbows?

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (FZYNt)

116 can't see her elbows

Posted by: Flying Allende Brothers at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (nFwvY)

117 Where are the jobs for transgenders!!!!!!

Posted by: SJW at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (E8apb)

118 The world cyber games.

Is Ace competing?

Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (xVRrG)

119 Trying to think of an example of a "butter body." Hmm.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (Bdeb0)

120 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

Cleanup on the entire thread !!!

Yeah! It's like a Jackson Pollock painting in here!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (4BGeF)

121 I'd learn Austrian just to speak to her!

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (ANIFC)

122 >>>>Rush is reporting that Julie Banderas is backing off on her claim that Gianforte grabbed the Pajama Boy reporter by the throat.

I knew the 24-hour rule was gonna apply here.
.
.
.I expect she got a call from a lawyer talking about the legal jeopardy of making false statements.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (le7jz)

123
Inflation in that photo is causing an inflation in my pants.

Bad girl. Now go to my room.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (quw2O)

124 117 Where are the jobs for transgenders!!!!!!

Posted by: SJW at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (E8apb)

Computer Programming.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (frZol)

125
Just think how well we could be doing if only Shillery was elected.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 25, 2017 12:42 PM (

A newscast from an alternate dimension...

"Congressional Candidate Killed in FBI SWAT Raid"

Greg Gianforte killed by FBI SWAT Team after he resisted arrest during an early morning arrest attempt, after hew was charged with misdemeanor assault for attacking a reporter. He was shot twenty seven times, after he was reported to aggressively yell, "Who are you!" from his bed. His two pound toy poodle was also shot as it attacked an officer from inside its locked animal carrier.

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (XSEwK)

126 In the dark all cats are grey. But her face is no saving grace.

Posted by: Ben Franklin at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (bc2Lc)

127 Trying to think of an example of a "butter body." Hmm.

Amy Schumer!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (4BGeF)

128 Oops?

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:03 PM (XSEwK)

129 As soon as they figure out that Russian probes are boring everyone, we can expect stories of "those left behind" by the growing employment numbers.

Posted by: George LeS at May 25, 2017 01:03 PM (+TcCF)

130 Trying to think of an example of a "butter body." Hmm.

Ann Wilson.

Posted by: 'Ello Canada at May 25, 2017 01:03 PM (vtcmf)

131 There's something strange about this picture, and I cannot put my hands on it...

Ah, it's the woman's pointy, horrific elbows. They almost gouged my eyes out.

Posted by: The Institute at May 25, 2017 01:03 PM (nGsFZ)

132 120 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

Cleanup on the entire thread !!!

Yeah! It's like a Jackson Pollock painting in here!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:02 PM (4BGeF)

Nice tits though amirite?

Posted by: Pollock at May 25, 2017 01:03 PM (E8apb)

133 Eh, I still don't think we can trust the government's economic statistics. Where I work, business has been very slow for the past few months.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2017 01:03 PM (xjiRE)

134 Amy Schumer!
Posted by: rickb223

as long as all the light bulbs are burned out in your bedroom

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:03 PM (FZYNt)

135 Boobs is why I just can't quit this place

Posted by: kbdabear at May 25, 2017 01:04 PM (AOrEZ)

136 Milo's new thing. Live video: Make America Haram Again

https://youtu.be/XLEAGuVPr_s

I hope it's not a shitshow but it could go either way. Pam Geller is there, but he hasn't shown up yet.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 25, 2017 01:04 PM (VdICR)

137 >> her face is no saving grace.

It's more the angle of the photo than her face.

Those heart shaped faces look weird from below.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:04 PM (pXi0m)

138 96 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!
Cleanup on the entire thread !!!
*sigh*
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

I'm going to have to ask you to give me your Moron card, pal.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at May 25, 2017 01:04 PM (hP3d7)

139 Trying to think of an example of a "butter body." Hmm.

----

Plenty of models & actresses have pretty faces, but scrawny, bag-of-antler bodies.

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2017 01:04 PM (ANIFC)

140 >>124
117 Where are the jobs for transgenders!!!!!!
Posted by: SJW at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (E8apb)

Taylor on "Billions" has a financial analyst job at Axe Capital. Taylor's pronouns are "they, them, and theirs."

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 01:04 PM (Bdeb0)

141 120 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

No. Why would we want one?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:04 PM (SRKgf)

142 The labor participation rate is still way too low, last I saw, more adults were working in the early 2000s than today despite the population increase.

Posted by: Maritime

Labor participation about 60% or so now. Almost twenty years ago it was about 65% and our budgets balanced.

Puerto Rico has a 40% labor participation rate and is bankrupt.

Getting it 5% higher (quick math) would mean nearly 20 million new jobs required. That's not going to happen unless business taxes are cut. Democrats will fight that, tooth and nail, because they don't give a f_ck that 20 million new jobs would be created. And their patriotism, or lack thereof.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (HTdUD)

143 First-time claims are a shitty indicator, always have been. Largely unfit for purpose from the get-go, then cynically gamed by the government's statistical stewmakers into complete lack of trustworthiness and/or utility.

You need to be looking down in the fine print, at stuff like hours worked, wages paid, and mean duration of unemployment, to get an idea whether the labor market is improving.

FYI, I do see some signs of just that. In one case just the other day, a literal sign, from a vendor apologizing for price increases and attributing part of the necessity of imposing same to their recently increased labor costs.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (ujwCG)

144 As soon as they figure out that Russian probes are boring everyone,

Probes. Boring. ISWYDT.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (4BGeF)

145 >>>Texas just approved feral hog hunting from hot air balloons

I'm sure those nasty electrical lines won't be a problem as you're focusing on your aim.

This has "hold my beer" all over it.
.
.
.We are talking about North Texas and Southern Oklahoma for the most part where they are a huge problem, power lines are not prevalent as there are not very many of them up here. Not really many people either. it's pretty much miles and miles of nothing but grazing land for cattle.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (le7jz)

146 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork

"Chick has a rockin' body, but 'er face ain't all that great"

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (evJdV)

147 What was the post about again?

Nice rack.
And, she looks a little like Kate Winslet, when Kate Winslet looks cute.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (8iiMU)

148 Where are the jobs for transgenders!!!!!!

Posted by: SJW at May 25, 2017 01:01 PM (E8apb)

Computer Programming.
Posted by: Hikaru

Computers cause some men to fap to porn, others to cut their dicks off.

Posted by: Lynn Conway at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (vRcUp)

149 That is stunning cleavage.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (3OIiX)

150 >> Boobs is why I just can't quit this place

Ace is, at most, a 'B' Cup...

Personally, I can't get enough of LauraW's hump.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:05 PM (pXi0m)

151 Sort of OT:

I have a part time job at an entertainment venue that's slated to close. The team associated with it is moving to a brand new venue and everyone has been told they will no longer have a job on October first. They are selling game tickets at the new venue.

Well... every time I talk to someone about what's happening, I get a new insight into mental illness.

Yesterday, a co-worker told me that the team moving to the new venue is not a done deal, and that although they have hired NO ONE from the current venue at the new venue, that she expects that our department will be working there. This is a person who owns a house, lives on her own and is seemingly functional.

Key word I guess is "seemingly."

Sigh.

Need to get out of there sooner rather than later. The crazy is really, really exhausting.

Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 01:06 PM (aT+Bx)

152 Suddenly I have a yen for some milk.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 25, 2017 01:06 PM (wTwJ2)

153 Not interested in the pushing down the reporter story unless there is audiovisual of the would be congressman saying "THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST!!!!" whilst doing the deed.

Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 01:06 PM (xVRrG)

154 152 Suddenly I have a yen for some milk.
Posted by: GnuBreed

that is udderly ridiculous

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:06 PM (FZYNt)

155 All this tit talks reminds me,Andrea Tantaros still in exile.Free Andrea Tantaros!

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (rmVvL)

156 Two scoops!

Posted by: DJT:POTUS at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (bc2Lc)

157 during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd often post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation of a healthy economy.

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (8rNrN)

158 104 Rush is reporting that Julie Banderas is backing off on her claim that Gianforte grabbed the Pajama Boy reporter by the throat.

I knew the 24-hour rule was gonna apply here.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (ul9CR)

Alicia Acuna, not Banderas.

The reporter witness with the changing story is Alicia Acuna.

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (XSEwK)

159 So what are teh boobies have to do with the jobs?

Who cares?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (SRKgf)

160 >>Milo's new thing. Live video: Make America Haram Again

Oh, geez, Linda Sarsour is speaking at a graduation ceremony?
WTF, America, when Pence is unacceptable but this sharia-loving bint is A-OK???

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

161 USAA pulls advertising from Hannity in wake of leftwing attack on him over Seth Rich coverage.

USAA has been getting an earful from members all morning on its twitter feed.

Their canned response is that their policy is now to advertise on only news, not opinion shows.

Posted by: Scalia's Ghost at May 25, 2017 01:08 PM (m5dkR)

162 Unexpectedly

Posted by: Sharkman at May 25, 2017 01:08 PM (tZycB)

163 52 I also suspect we're about to be hit with "do you want to pay more for your lettuce? Huh, do you?"
"Do you want to pick lettuce?"

From the same crowd who is demanding $15/hr at McDonalds.

#1. I hate lettuce.
#2. You want $15/hr? Get a fucking simple burger order right.
*
*
I'm already paying too much for lettuce, even at WallyMart. And smaller heads of lettuce at that. But sure, I'll pay $2-3 a head, if it's the result of getting millions of illegal invaders off the highways.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 01:08 PM (jTUfG)

164 Hillary will need to bend over a bit more, or I will be unable to butt her face.

Posted by: Billy Goat at May 25, 2017 01:08 PM (vRcUp)

165 >>during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd often
post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation
of a healthy economy.

Well, she is certainly healthy! Here's to more of these healthy economy posts!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 01:09 PM (NOIQH)

166 157 during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd often post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation of a healthy economy.
Posted by: ace

so it's possible 12 years later this maidens "assets" have drooped like the economy?

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:09 PM (FZYNt)

167 Looking at that picture, I think the rate of increase is the highest it's been in years... in my pants.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:10 PM (TOk1P)

168 One of the unemployment rates ignores those who have stopped looking. When the economy improves, the "stopped looking" number decreases, as many formerly discouraged are, uh, encouraged.

Count me among the discouraged and despondent.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:10 PM (0mRoj)

169 Needs Moar Cake Girl

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:10 PM (pXi0m)

170 157 during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd often post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation of a healthy economy.

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (8rNrN)

That wasn't a healthy economy, either. If you looked just below the surface of all the reports at the time, almost all of the job creation was shitty service sector jobs. Most of the so called job creation in those years was the melting away of the good stuff being replaced by baristas and fry cooks.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 25, 2017 01:10 PM (4ErVI)

171 160 >>Milo's new thing. Live video: Make America Haram Again

Oh, geez, Linda Sarsour is speaking at a graduation ceremony?
WTF, America, when Pence is unacceptable but this sharia-loving bint is A-OK???

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

The Left thinks that if they allow Shari'ah into the country, it will only be applied to "Those Hicks in Flyover Country", and that all the trendy, "enlightened" people in Brooklyn, Portland, Boston, Hollywood, and San Franshitsco will be immune/protected from it.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 01:10 PM (frZol)

172
Alicia Acuna, not Banderas.

The reporter witness with the changing story is Alicia Acuna.
--

Fox News Babe.

That pretty much covers all of them.

Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 01:11 PM (aT+Bx)

173 Personally, I can't get enough of LauraW's hump.

She does bring the sexy.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 25, 2017 01:11 PM (YEelc)

174 Wow. Nice rack.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:11 PM (0mRoj)

175 158 104 Rush is reporting that Julie Banderas is backing off on her claim that Gianforte grabbed the Pajama Boy reporter by the throat.

I knew the 24-hour rule was gonna apply here.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 25, 2017 01:00 PM (ul9CR)

Alicia Acuna, not Banderas.

The reporter witness with the changing story is Alicia Acuna.
Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (XSEwK)

See the sidebar for links.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2017 01:11 PM (mbhDw)

176 What about all the Trump scandals? The two scoops of icecream. Kellyanne's feet on the sofa, etc. What would it take to wake you conservatives up? Kellyanne putting her feet in Trump's icecream? Michelle would never do that.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (vRcUp)

177 >>Count me among the discouraged and despondent.

Hatin' on Jews doesn't cheer you up anymore?

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (pXi0m)

178 She kinda looks like one of those Juggy girls from the Man Show back in the day.

Posted by: Free Beer Tomorrow at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (LhaMt)

179 so it's possible 12 years later this maidens "assets" have drooped like the economy?
Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:09 PM (FZYNt)

Well, she paid to get 'em, she can pay to have 'em touched up!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (evJdV)

180 52 I also suspect we're about to be hit with "do you want to pay more for your lettuce? Huh, do you?"
"Do you want to pick lettuce?"

From the same crowd who is demanding $15/hr at McDonalds.

Back in the day, Reds in Berkeley used to howl about the racism because of the backbreaking labor of Mexicans in the fields (fair enough) picking produce.

Then UC Davis developed a machine to do said backbreaking labor, and the Reds in Berkeley howled about the racism of putting Mexican farm laborers out of work.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (SRKgf)

181 Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 01:06 PM (aT+Bx)

Yeah, I don't think you will have a part time job there for long.
Good Luck.

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (XSEwK)

182 177 >>Count me among the discouraged and despondent.

Hatin' on Jews doesn't cheer you up anymore?
Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (pXi0m)

The magic is gone.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (0mRoj)

183 157 during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd often post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation of a healthy economy.

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (8rNrN)

"Mr. Osato believes in a healthy . . . economy."

- - Ginger headed SPECTRE agent

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (mbhDw)

184 157 during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd often post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation of a healthy economy.
Posted by: ace

so it's possible 12 years later this maidens "assets" have drooped like the economy?

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:09 PM (FZYNt)

Correction: Fraulein assets.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (TOk1P)

185 Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation of a healthy economy.
=====
Hmmm. That's why those boobs looked familiar.

Posted by: simplemind at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (xVRrG)

186 Who was looking for that story about the improving economy means bad news?

This is from CBS: A new report says the improving economy has a downside: more traffic deaths

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (le7jz)

187 Wouldn't you need to palpate to know if her uh - economic indicators was healthy?

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (pXi0m)

188 Unless there's a drastic change soon, we may never see the prosperity montage again.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (4ErVI)

189 Imagine where we will be if we get tax reform and cut regulations.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2017 01:14 PM (oVJmc)

190
Fraulein's mit der glockenspiels und der Bustenhalter ist verboten!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 25, 2017 01:14 PM (mbhDw)

191 >>176
What about all the Trump scandals? Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at May 25, 2017 01:12 PM (vRcUp)

I know, right? He tried to grab his wife's arm in Rome, probably so he could throw her to her knees like some conquered trophy, but she slapped his hand. Good for her. I just can't even.

Posted by: Concerned Zod at May 25, 2017 01:14 PM (Bdeb0)

192 talk about probing the economy

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:14 PM (FZYNt)

193 Rep. Jackie Speier (D., Calif.) said Tuesday on MSNBC that Muslim youths could become so isolated that violence becomes the only avenue of making a statement about their religion.

Weasel Zippers

Are they all this stupid? ( Rhetorical Question)
Hey Horseface just thinks they need yobs ( see how I tied this into the Thread?) LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 01:15 PM (5y11N)

194 She sells motorboats?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2017 01:15 PM (oVJmc)

195 Verena Vlajo of Austria

Posted by: Murdoch' Boys at May 25, 2017 01:15 PM (NLr+C)

196 Those boobs are from 2005, I have $50 that unless she got an adjustment they do not look as stunning today.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:15 PM (le7jz)

197 The magic is gone.

You've last that hating feeling
Woah, that hating feeling
You've lost that hating feeling
Now it's gone, gone, gone, woh

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (YEelc)

198 194 She sells motorboats?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

more like rents them, or even test drives

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (FZYNt)

199 Have I missed any recent Saga episodes, or have there just not been any?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2017 12:57 PM (sEDyY)

The last one was about a week ago as Trump was preparing to meet the foreigners.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (hLRSq)

200 "Alicia Acuna, not Banderas.

The reporter witness with the changing story is Alicia Acuna.

Posted by: rd"

She has a nice rack too. (First!)

Posted by: A Moron at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (1BQGO)

201 "Next Media Narrative? OMG! Rampant Inflation is just around the corner!"

All through the Magnificent Epochal Obama Economic Renaissance, and all through the Terrible Drugstore-Cowboy Bush Economic Wasteland, I carefully tracked grocery outlays as a proxy for inflation.

Which was remarkably steady through both the Renaissance and Wasteland years. Also remarkably higher than what the federal economic spinmeisters claimed as an inflation rate during both administrations.

One thing that makes this difficult to get a handle on is stealth inflation via retail product packaging. That went on all during the Bush Wasteland years and the Obama Renaissance years, and it's still going on in the Scalpweasel Scheme years.

I had been about to pick up a half-gallon tub of a particular ice cream last week, and I suddenly said to myself, wait, something is weird. It looks the same and yet not the same.

Yep. What had been a half-gallon tub had been reduced, at the same sticker price, to only 75 percent of a half gallon. But cleverly presented so as to make it appear nothing had changed. Down to the grocer changing the shelving height so two of the smaller containers still neatly filled out the intershelf distance.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (ujwCG)

202 >>I also suspect we're about to be hit with "do you want to pay more for your lettuce? Huh, do you?"
"Do you want to pick lettuce?"

>From the same crowd who is demanding $15/hr at McDonalds.

We should start telling them we support $15/hr for farm workers.

You think *you* deserve it more than the poor farm workers??

White privilege, fer shurr.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (wwL6Q)

203 Yeah, I don't think you will have a part time job there for long.
Good Luck.
--

Thank you RD. I've been casually searching for about a month or so now, but need to ramp things up.

Crazy people are exhausting and simply not fun to work with.

Please think about that when your kids ask you for input on their majors in college.

-Where will you be working?
-Will the people you work with share your values?
-Or will your co-workers be batsh*t crazy, but tolerated by management, because they feel "bad" about firing someone?

Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (aT+Bx)

204 186
This is from CBS: A new report says the improving economy has a downside: more traffic deaths
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (le7jz)

Trump is literally killing people!

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (xjiRE)

205 Ditto to those above pointing out the multiple problems with the economic "data". A while back I asked commenter redbanzai - who works in econometrics and forecasting - if the quality of govt. data had declined to the point that real analysts now used them less, or relied on them less than before, and I think she said "yes".

OT: Trump remarks to NATO were good, incl. the snark about the new HQ bldg., but all the focus on budget and GDP % misses the macro point he made less elegantly but correctly during the campaign - it's an alliance with fundamental problems of purpose and relevance.

For the super-simplified illustration, imagine a NATO where Germany is spending 2.5% of GDP on military efforts, and the UK 7%, and France 4%. This changes nothing about political will to actually do anything in a real world contingency. Changes nothing, really. The UK might - MIGHT - be of some marginal use in some imaginable scenario (though doubtful, any more), France might do some limited below-radar stuff in Africa as they've been doing for decades, Germany will remain as relevant as Uruguay to any real-world scenario.

Clausewitz.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (QDnY+)

206 >>Austrian Game Girl

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Select, Start.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (pXi0m)

207 170
157 during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd
often post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual
representation of a healthy economy.

Posted by: ace at May 25, 2017 01:07 PM (8rNrN)

Back when we were all 18....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2017 01:17 PM (8iiMU)

208
>>during the bush years, I used to do "More Cowbell" posts where I'd often post this Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation
of a healthy economy.

THIS is the "More Cowbell" that I remember. Except I think it was one of the cobs that used to put it up.

http://tinyurl.com/jo9nzjr

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 25, 2017 01:17 PM (quw2O)

209 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Select, Start.
Posted by: garrett

and repeat till your tongue gets tired

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:17 PM (FZYNt)

210 146 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork

"Chick has a rockin' body, but 'er face ain't all that great"
*
*
Or simply, "Everything but her face."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 01:17 PM (jTUfG)

211 Will the MSM now retire the phrase,

"The Economy Unexpectedly..."

Because you know that they will never, ever say "The Trump Economy is Unexpectedly Overperforming!"

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:18 PM (XSEwK)

212 204
186

This is from CBS: A new report says the improving economy has a downside: more traffic deaths

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (le7jz)

Trump is literally killing people!

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (xjiRE)

It is all the illegals fleeing this country back across the southern border.Double win!!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:19 PM (jxbfJ)

213 >>>>"Next Media Narrative? OMG! Rampant Inflation is just around the corner!"

All
through the Magnificent Epochal Obama Economic Renaissance, and all
through the Terrible Drugstore-Cowboy Bush Economic Wasteland, I
carefully tracked grocery outlays as a proxy for inflation.

Which
was remarkably steady through both the Renaissance and Wasteland years.
Also remarkably higher than what the federal economic spinmeisters
claimed as an inflation rate during both administrations.

One
thing that makes this difficult to get a handle on is stealth inflation
via retail product packaging. That went on all during the Bush Wasteland
years and the Obama Renaissance years, and it's still going on in the
Scalpweasel Scheme years.

I had been about to pick up a
half-gallon tub of a particular ice cream last week, and I suddenly said
to myself, wait, something is weird. It looks the same and yet not the
same.

Yep. What had been a half-gallon tub had been reduced, at
the same sticker price, to only 75 percent of a half gallon. But
cleverly presented so as to make it appear nothing had changed. Down to
the grocer changing the shelving height so two of the smaller containers
still neatly filled out the intershelf distance.
.
.
.Yep I call that stealth inflation. I started noticing that Walmart was selling 80% hamburger in 14 ounce packages. My favorite beef polish sausage went from a 16 ounce pack to a 14 ounce and is now at 12 ounces for about the same price.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:19 PM (le7jz)

214 She sells motorboats?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2017 01:15 PM (oVJmc)

When she sees the doctor, he always offers to numb them.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:19 PM (TOk1P)

215 This is from CBS: A new report says the improving economy has a downside: more traffic deaths

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:13 PM (le7jz)

My local CBS affiliate had this shocking story on the noon newz:

People in small cars are more likely to be killed in automobile accidents, while people in large SUVs are more likely to survive.

Because Trump, I'm sure.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 01:19 PM (PY9jH)

216 Inflation is right around the corner?

Well, shoot. I thought it's been right in the room for at least the last eight years. More like it's in the room, it's got its feet propped up on your wife's ass, and it's drinking your beer while charging pay per view pron on your tv.

Like Torque said above they got around talking about it by shrinking the size of product packaging. Or not filling a container to previous levels.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 25, 2017 01:19 PM (4ErVI)

217

I'd hit it...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2017 01:20 PM (HSmrB)

218 Rep. Jackie Speier (D., Calif.) said Tuesday on MSNBC that Muslim youths could become so isolated that violence becomes the only avenue of making a statement about their religion.

Weasel Zippers

Are they all this stupid? ( Rhetorical Question)

---

The day after the bombing, one of the Fox News Babes doing commentary said that since we're killing them in the Middle East, they have NO CHOICE but to target people in the West.

So it's our fault. If only we stopped bombing them and let them do whatever they wanted, even if that meant letting them murder Christians and even commit genocide, everything would be totes OK.

Posted by: shibumi at May 25, 2017 01:20 PM (aT+Bx)

219 185 Austrian Game Girl's picture to give a visual representation of a healthy economy.
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Hmmm. That's why those boobs looked familiar.
*
*
If we get a Cake Girl pic back again, that'll tell us we're in the Roaring Twenties!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 01:20 PM (jTUfG)

220 213 Americans eat too big portions anyway...
The Left

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 01:20 PM (rmVvL)

221 146 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork

With all the traffic we must surely send to Urban Dictionary, they should give Ace a cut of the ad revenue

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:20 PM (jxbfJ)

222 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (hLRSq)

Not sure I saw that one. I would be very happy to pay 99� per chapter (Primaries, Trump as Nominee, etc.) if you put them up on Amazon.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2017 01:21 PM (sEDyY)

223 Rep. Jackie Speier (D., Calif.) said Tuesday on MSNBC that Muslim youths could become so isolated that violence becomes the only avenue of making a statement about their religion.

Weasel Zippers

Are they all this stupid? ( Rhetorical Question)
Hey Horseface just thinks they need yobs ( see how I tied this into the Thread?) LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Someone gave this asshole a suicide vest. Obviously he wasn't "isolated". Proabably well connected to some mosque.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 25, 2017 01:22 PM (vRcUp)

224 My local CBS affiliate had this shocking story on the noon newz:

People
in small cars are more likely to be killed in automobile accidents,
while people in large SUVs are more likely to survive.

Because Trump, I'm sure.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 01:19 PM (PY9jH)

I heard that stupid story on my local CBS affiliate noon news too.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2017 01:22 PM (8iiMU)

225 Here's my guess on the wine whiners in CA being unable to find workers:

There already exists--and has for years--a farming method and machinery to mechanically harvest wine grapes.

The old vineyards aren't set up for that.

The same method is being used for olives.

What you have then, is farmers whining that their old methods aren't making them any money any more.

It's the guy out there with a horse-drawn plow complaining about tractors.

I also suspect a little snobbery--"my wine grapes are hand cut and that means a better wine."
If you really believe that, sell your wine at a premium and let the market put the proof.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 01:23 PM (ZQpd0)

226 218 The day after the bombing, one of the Fox News Babes doing commentary said that since we're killing them in the Middle East, they have NO CHOICE but to target people in the West.

So it's our fault. If only we stopped bombing them and let them do whatever they wanted, even if that meant letting them murder Christians and even commit genocide, everything would be totes OK.

Well yeah. After all, what does YOUR life mean to those TV people compared to that paycheck from Prince Al-Waleed?

Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 01:23 PM (frZol)

227 Didn't read it, but Drudge has a headline about labor shortages for CA agriculture. Linked to change in illegals' numbers.

Gosh, no! Does that mean that farmers will have to resort to that yukky, icky process whereby prices rise to lure more supply into the picture? Quick, somebody call McCarthy, that nice young fella from Bakersfield, he's in the GOP leadership, he can fix this! Call McCain! Call La Raza! Call Pelosi! Turn those machines back on!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 01:23 PM (QDnY+)

228 I'm thinking of investing in real estate - I think might want to buy some great tracts of land.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2017 01:23 PM (gjCdx)

229 If this Cowbell post does not include the Jennifer Connelly on a rocking horse gif, the terrorists have already won.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 01:23 PM (C52a9)

230 So 44 years = Nixon.

IMPEACH!!!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 25, 2017 01:23 PM (h/uSM)

231 Where's the jiggly version of that pie graphic. You know, to show us which indicators are up and which are down.

Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2017 01:23 PM (TNQMS)

232 >>People in small cars are more likely to be killed in automobile accidents, while people in large SUVs are more likely to survive.

Phisycs r hard.

Posted by: CBS News at May 25, 2017 01:24 PM (pXi0m)

233 One word. Plastics.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2017 01:24 PM (xfb67)

234 ...This changes nothing about political will to actually do anything in a real world contingency. ...

Nobody shoots shells they didn't buy in a gun they don't have. Bet Lithuania, Poland and Georgia (the country) are spending as much as they can on defense. If I was their leader I would be trying to buy nukes from Israel and Pakistan. Russia is a wolf.

Posted by: Ok at May 25, 2017 01:24 PM (OE5e7)

235 The Obama years were times of vast economic destruction. If there was any sort of actual recovery the GDP should be hitting $20.5 trillion right now instead of the $18.5 trillion it is currently.

Posted by: MAGA at May 25, 2017 01:24 PM (LQ1Q3)

236 Fraulein Austria here, she wanted to do something to help the troops, so she took a job as a stripper, traveling to war zones.

She had to quit though, because when she got the tassels spinning during her act, Alan Alda and Wayne Rodgers kept trying to load wounded patients on her hips.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:25 PM (TOk1P)

237 Probably 90% of the reason we have 20+ million illegal aliens in this country is farmers and ranchers wanting to pay slave wages.

At least, that's how it started out.

No telling what sort of automation we would have for roles like that if we didn't have such a porous border.

Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 01:25 PM (SCkw/)

238 Economists believe the real growth sector in the economy is Internet Trolls paid by Russian Spymasters to Hack the Election.
===

I believe that 'hacking' became 'manipulating' then 'interfering' and is now hanging on with by it's fingernails to 'meddling'.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 01:25 PM (C52a9)

239
An economic cheerleader is still a cheerleader. Bewbs are back baby.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2017 01:25 PM (ODxAs)

240 >>People in small cars are more likely to be killed in automobile
accidents, while people in large SUVs are more likely to survive.

*ahem*

It is the Climate Change activists who have ministered on high gas mileage standards, which necessitate smaller, lighter cars - and they know this because they haaaate SUVs, big trucks, Hummers, etc..

Now, I'd wonder if they are aware of these contradictions, but being a Lefty means you *never* have to square your contradicting demands, and in a lot of cases, it's the point: they want to replace cars with public transportation, and will use any and every angle that leads to this.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 01:25 PM (NOIQH)

241 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

Cleanup on the entire thread !!!
*sigh*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

Dude. We're *morons*. This is like throwing a live cow in a piranha-infested river in the Amazon jungle.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 01:25 PM (YMLsE)

242 224
My local CBS affiliate had this shocking story on the noon newz:

People

in small cars are more likely to be killed in automobile accidents,

while people in large SUVs are more likely to survive.

Because Trump, I'm sure.

That can't be on Trump or us. It has always been on the left (well, OK with help from RINOS) that we need to drive smaller, more efficient vehicles. Love how some of the drivers of those Smart cars look so smug scooting around town - up until they see the plow frame of the 3/4 ton truck coming up on them.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:26 PM (jxbfJ)

243 ....
I had been about to pick up a half-gallon tub of a particular ice cream last week, and I suddenly said to myself, wait, something is weird. It looks the same and yet not the same.

Yep. What had been a half-gallon tub had been reduced, at the same sticker price, to only 75 percent of a half gallon. But cleverly presented so as to make it appear nothing had changed. Down to the grocer changing the shelving height so two of the smaller containers still neatly filled out the intershelf distance.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:16 PM (

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Just wait, They are going from 1.5 Quarts to 1.25 Quarts soon. I saw that with a frozen yogurt brand last month.

Two years ago it was 1.75 Quarts.

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:26 PM (XSEwK)

244 Stealth inflation is 12 ounce coffee packages, and some at even 10.

Stella Artois beer in 11.2 ounce bottles.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 25, 2017 01:26 PM (U6f54)

245 ...One word. Plastics...

They should have gotten someone with bigger elbows than Anne Bancroft and showed them off.

Posted by: Ok at May 25, 2017 01:27 PM (OE5e7)

246 Yes, food packagers/manufacturers here have been downsizing portions/weights to keep consumer prices at the same level (for less product) since a couple of years after the Canadian dollar started its slide from slightly-above par with the greenback to its approx. 75-cents today as well as for inflationary pressures affecting your U.S. purchases too, Great White Scotsman.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2017 01:27 PM (nlbfN)

247 "For the super-simplified illustration, imagine a NATO where Germany
is spending 2.5% of GDP on military efforts, and the UK 7%, and France
4%. This changes nothing about political will to actually do anything in
a real world contingency."

The local public radio station had a live forum where a bunch of dingbat Democrat dignitaries were squeaking and beeping about The Resistance to Trump.

One of them -- I think it was former L.A. mayor Antonio Viva-La-Raza -- was incandescently indignant about how Trump has been repeatedly needling Angela Merkel about Germany not spending its minimum treaty-determined percent of GDP on defense.

Why, he spluttered, what if there's some sort of TERRIBLE GLOBAL CRISIS which requires COORDINATED INTERNATIONAL ACTION, and Trump has to pick up the phone to abjectly beg Merkel for assistance, and she won't take the call, because Trump's arrogant blundering has alienated a key ally?

I had to pull over. I couldn't drive for laughing. Merkel is supposed to do what again exactly in a global crisis? Dispatch the Bundeswehr? The outfit who had to leave a multinational NATO training exercise because they'd used up all of their available overtime hours? The army which has about thirty mission-capable tanks left? Those guys?

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:27 PM (ujwCG)

248 Yep, the inflation that was obvious in the 2009-2012 period, yet mysteriously invisible in all the forms of the CPI, was, um, obvious. Even without the "stealth" version torque talks about and which we have all noticed.

Now chicken prices are incredibly good, have been for a while (pork, too).

How would I like to see those prices rise a bit because of the massive, systematic removal of illegal labor from the processing part of that industry. As I have been wanting DHS/DOJ to do, as part of their administrative/not-legislative attack on the illegal migration crisis.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 01:28 PM (QDnY+)

249 146 WTH is "butter face"? And no, I won't google it or look on the Urban Dictionary site.
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork

She has a nice body and look very hittable, but her face...

i.e. nice body but not a pretty face.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 01:28 PM (YMLsE)

250 232 >>People in small cars are more likely to be killed in automobile accidents, while people in large SUVs are more likely to survive.
*
*
Until, of course, the idiots drive high center of gravity SUVs the same way they'd drive low squatty sports cars. Then it doesn't look good for the SUV drivers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 01:28 PM (jTUfG)

251 Austrian you say?

The Hills Are Alive!

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 01:28 PM (C52a9)

252 Excellent visual representation of a healthy "economy", Ace. Very healthy.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at May 25, 2017 01:29 PM (hP3d7)

253 Japan has developed automated harvesting for almost all vegetables. Just a matter of time until migrant field workers are not required.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:29 PM (czLDv)

254 The day after the bombing, one of the Fox News Babes doing commentary said that since we're killing them in the Middle East, they have NO CHOICE but to target people in the West.

Bullshit. Wecan target them in the Middle East. Then deport them from the West to the Middle East. Then target them again.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 25, 2017 01:29 PM (vRcUp)

255 Probably 90% of the reason we have 20+ million illegal aliens in this
country is farmers and ranchers wanting to pay slave wages.
===========
Double welfare recipients--they get cheap labor AND they get subsidies from the government.

I loved that part in the article where the farmer is complaining that if he raises the offered wage, the neighbor farmer then raises his wage.

Like I said, I'm no fancy big-city economist--but I think that's the market screaming at that you your wages are too damned low across the industry.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 01:30 PM (ZQpd0)

256 ...Stealth inflation ...

Recipe's are sometimes wrong because canned goods have been reduced from 16 oz to 13 point something.

Posted by: Ok at May 25, 2017 01:30 PM (OE5e7)

257
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 01:28 PM (YMLsE)

Everything but her face.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:30 PM (czLDv)

258 Just did my 5th or so "Old Timers" 360 just now. Headed to the den to get my phone and at about half way there forgot what I was doing and did a 180. Took about three steps and remembered and did another 180.

I would say I did a "to the rear, march" but with gays in the military that is probably counted as harassment now.

Posted by: Javems at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (yOqwj)

259 Someone gave this asshole a suicide vest. Obviously he wasn't "isolated". Proabably well connected to some mosque.

His Whole Freaking Family are terrorists. Daddy and all his brothers are Libyan Islamic Fanatics.

Posted by: rd at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (XSEwK)

260 Stealth inflation is 12 ounce coffee packages, and some at even 10.

Stella Artois beer in 11.2 ounce bottles.
Posted by: Les Kinetic

Check how high up the bulgey thingy at the bottom of the wine bottle goes.
Higher it is, less amount of wine in the bottle.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (4BGeF)

261 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

Cleanup on the entire thread !!!
*sigh*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

Dude. We're *morons*. This is like throwing a live cow in a piranha-infested river in the Amazon jungle.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 01:25 PM (YMLsE)

He doesn't mean it. He's just jealous all the really good and lurid comments, he didn't think of them first.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (TOk1P)

262 241
Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

Cleanup on the entire thread !!!
*sigh*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

How's this: I'm sure she has a nice personality.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (jxbfJ)

263 I heard that stupid story on my local CBS affiliate noon news too.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 25, 2017 01:22 PM....Our local CBS affiliate has a story that I saw on Drudge. (Neither MN paper has covered it yet, the Strib is too busy posting stories about Trump picking his nose etc.) Two muslim brothers were arrested in Minneapolistan (shocker) on Mat 11th on weapons charges after they were pulled over. They had a bunch of guns, ammo, a hand grenade, bomb making material and a drone. Nothing to see though I am sure. SMDH.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (Hv0jf)

264 How unlucky Obama was to be innocently smack dab in between the two presidents responsible for all of the country's ills.

Posted by: Mega at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (/chC5)

265 Bullshit. Wecan target them in the Middle East. Then deport them from the West to the Middle East. Then target them again.>>>

Implant tracking chips during the deportation process. It will make targeting easier.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (r5KeJ)

266 >>I loved that part in the article where the farmer is complaining that if he raises the offered wage, the neighbor farmer then raises his wage.

*facepalm*

Posted by: Zombie Adam Smith at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (pXi0m)

267 Ahem...

http://tinyurl.com/kwqs8nm

sfw

Posted by: dananjcon at May 25, 2017 01:32 PM (WLK0w)

268 How's this: I'm sure she has a nice personality.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

and by personality you mean ass

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:32 PM (FZYNt)

269 My 5th today that is.

Posted by: Javems at May 25, 2017 01:32 PM (yOqwj)

270 Japan has developed automated harvesting for almost all vegetables. Just a matter of time until migrant field workers are not required.

Japan has illegal Mexicans?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:32 PM (4BGeF)

271 Not sure I saw that one. I would be very happy to pay 99 cents per chapter (Primaries, Trump as Nominee, etc.) if you put them up on Amazon.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2017 01:21 PM (sEDyY)

I'm not sure where they all are, but here is the one from last week:

The saga:

At the DNC a skeletal being raises its claw and says "Speak."
"Oh Skeletor..."
"I'm Tom Perez. Skeletor was in children's show."
"But you look just like..."
"Get to the point before I have your puny body blasted to atoms like I did with He-Man!"
"Yes, Oh Skel - Mr. Perez. Trump is going over seas on foreign visits. He has been greeted with non-stop disdain and a whiny middle school bitch fest from the media domestically. But a president's great strength is foreign policy. We fear that Trump may appear Presidential and Normal overseas and people may see this and wonder if we aren't the ones that have lost our minds and not him. What are you doing?"
Perez looks up from the brain he has been tinkering on. "Hmm? Just giving Nancy Pelosi a tune up. I think her timing belt is about to go, though. You were saying?"
"Overseas. During Trump's visits. We need to deploy the same tactics we have done here, see to it that Trump appears as reviled by everyone as he is by us. Then when he is seen as a failure everywhere we will put on Operation Impeachment Pie and elevate Hillary Clinton to the Imperial Throne - I mean, presidency."
Fingers deep into the cerebral cortex Perez nods and says 'Good idea; contact the Democrats Who Left America Because They Hate It and have them get bids on riotous mobs; remember to get receipts we have to watch the pennies these days - between Hillary's bar tab and Nancy's drinks cart it's a wonder we can keep the lights on."

**********

At the White House Trump prepares for overseas travel.
"Let's see - shave kit, extra underwear, clean shirts, extra long ties, mace, .45 with extra magazines, phrasebook on "How To Speak Foreign", weasel gel in gold - yep, got everything."
A man blunders into the room, his fez askew. He blinks behind thick glasses. "Meester Tromp?"
"Ah Morocco Mole! How's my best spy at the DNC?"
"I am fine. Secret Squirrel sent me to tell you the DNC plans protests while you are overseas to make you look like you are hated world wide causing you to be impeached into a pie."
"A pie?"
"They aren't very clever over there."
"Well, no. Thanks for the warning. I'll give Erdogan a call and borrow a couple of curb stomping Turks, and maybe see if Vlad can spare a squadron of Cossacks. What do you think little buddy?"
The Golden Scalp Weasel straightens its Hawaiian shirt, adjusts its Ray-Bans and gives a thumbs up.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 01:32 PM (hLRSq)

272 I thought Koreans were Japans Mexicans?

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 01:33 PM (pXi0m)

273 I'm so old , I remember when Jennifer Connelly on a rocking horse was MANDATORY for any and all cowbell-related posts.

* sigh *

We were young then.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 01:33 PM (C52a9)

274 254 The day after the bombing, one of the Fox News Babes doing commentary said that since we're killing them in the Middle East, they have NO CHOICE but to target people in the West.

Bullshit. Wecan target them in the Middle East. Then deport them from the West to the Middle East. Then target them again.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 25, 2017 01:29 PM (vRcUp)

Once again it's never their responsibility. In the leftist mind Muslims are not real human beings with moral agency.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2017 01:33 PM (gjCdx)

275 Double welfare recipients--they get cheap labor AND they get subsidies from the government.

I loved that part in the article where the farmer is complaining that if he raises the offered wage, the neighbor farmer then raises his wage.

Like I said, I'm no fancy big-city economist--but I think that's the market screaming at that you your wages are too damned low across the industry.
Posted by: RoyalOil

________

Yea, but all the TruCons and Chamber of Commerce crowd will tell you illegal aliens help the economy.

It only helps the the DONORS of the Chamber of Commerce because taxpayers are subsidizing their $7 an hour

I'd gladly pay a bit more for my produce not to have entire schools in my state where all the students are illegal aliens.

Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 01:33 PM (SCkw/)

276 And this...

http://tinyurl.com/mp4ordc

Posted by: dananjcon at May 25, 2017 01:34 PM (WLK0w)

277 the bulgey thingy at the bottom of the wine bottle
It's called a 'punt' BTW!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 25, 2017 01:34 PM (nlbfN)

278 Well, I'd be willing to take on for the team on that gal.

I bet her face is just fine at an angle other than 'funhouse mirror'

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at May 25, 2017 01:34 PM (3Liv/)

279 Lettuces can be easily grown in pots on your deck/patio.

Then you can pay yourself to pick it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 25, 2017 01:34 PM (PY9jH)

280 Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!

Cleanup on the entire thread !!!
*sigh*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

How's this: I'm sure she has a nice personality.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (jxbfJ)

I would like her nice personality to meet my nice personality... in my pants.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:34 PM (TOk1P)

281 Everything but her face.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:30 PM (czLDv)

Very nice. You expressed in 4 words what it took me about 20 to say.

I admire that.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 01:35 PM (YMLsE)

282 The entire apt. complex I moved into last month is having new siding, painting, etc. done. There must be at least 20 men a day working on this project, which includes Sat. and a half day Sun. I have yet to hear a word of English spoken.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 25, 2017 01:35 PM (+eKyB)

283 There it goes again. Another thread hijacked by conceptual penises.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:35 PM (czLDv)

284 Two muslim brothers were arrested in Minneapolistan (shocker) on Mat 11th on weapons charges after they were pulled over. They had a bunch of guns, ammo, a hand grenade, bomb making material and a drone. Nothing to see though I am sure. SMDH.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 25, 2017 01:31 PM (Hv0jf)

Hunting season?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:35 PM (SRKgf)

285 Yea, but all the TruCons and Chamber of Commerce crowd will tell you illegal aliens help the economy.

It only helps the the DONORS of the Chamber of Commerce because taxpayers are subsidizing their $7 an hour

I'd gladly pay a bit more for my produce not to have entire schools in my state where all the students are illegal aliens.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 01:33 PM (SCkw/)

I also call bullshit that prices will go up in any noticeable way. Think about what an extra $5 an hour across, say, 10 people (so $50 an hour) actually adds in cost when you divide that by thousands of heads of lettuce or whatever. Pennies.

If they're really worried about the cost of produce at my local store, lower the diesel tax, sales tax (where applicable) and tolls for trucks. That'll have more of an impact.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:36 PM (wmaTe)

286 Her face is fine, just a bad angle.

Posted by: DM at May 25, 2017 01:37 PM (EDWuJ)

287 284 Infidel hunting.Runs all year round,no bag limits.

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 01:37 PM (rmVvL)

288 >>280
Oh for cryin' out loud ... can we just have ONE thread without all the lurid comments about the nice young girl ?!?!
Cleanup on the entire thread !!!

*sigh*
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

I'll bet she makes a good sandwich. And by "sandwich" I mean, you know, "sandwich."

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Bdeb0)

289 Farmers don't pay slave wages, some of them pay very well for certain jobs.

The problem is that it's crappy work, sometimes intermittent, and too many people would rather collect a welfare check, or make less money working at Starbucks.
There's a similar problem with tourism in Maine: a lot of the resorts depend on foreign workers because no one wants to work summer jobs there anymore.

It's a cultural problem that's going to bite us in the ass.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Tnhbr)

290 77 What does that picture have to do with the post? LOL

It doesn't.

Provides an opportunity for all the prime specimens of masculine pulchritude here who have male model perfect faces to complain about the smiling cute woman with the ample cleavage because her "butter face" doesn't met the standards of beauty they deserve to see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (qES5k)

291 This is just creepy.

http://tinyurl.com/nxnu4kr

Now I know why I'm not big on strawberries.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (WLK0w)

292 the bulgey thingy at the bottom of the wine bottle
It's called a 'punt' BTW!

Gracias!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (4BGeF)

293 Japan has illegal Mexicans?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:32 PM (4BGeF)

ANTARCTICA has illegal Mexicans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (SRKgf)

294 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 01:32 PM (hLRSq)

Thanks, I hadn't seen that one.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (sEDyY)

295 I loved that part in the article where the farmer is complaining that if he raises the offered wage, the neighbor farmer then raises his wage.

Heh. That's how the market works, bud.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (YMLsE)

296 Provides an opportunity for all the prime specimens of masculine pulchritude here who have male model perfect faces to complain about the smiling cute woman with the ample cleavage because her "butter face" doesn't met the standards of beauty they deserve to see.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

don't forget 9+ inch penises

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (FZYNt)

297 crap.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (YMLsE)

298 >>Provides an opportunity for all the prime specimens
of masculine pulchritude here who have male model perfect faces to
complain about the smiling cute woman with the ample cleavage because
her "butter face" doesn't met the standards of beauty they deserve to
see. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (qES5k)

Blahblah blahblah ample cleavage blahblah.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (Bdeb0)

299 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 12:58 PM (tcQdP)

Bravo, ScoggDog

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (qES5k)

300 Hunting season?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:35 PM

Just muslim yoots out and about.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (Hv0jf)

301 There's a similar problem with tourism in Maine: a lot of the resorts depend on foreign workers because no one wants to work summer jobs there anymore.

It's a cultural problem that's going to bite us in the ass.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Tnhbr)

It's an incentive problems.

The incentives to not work are too high, and the incentives TO work are too low.

The government can easily fix #1 by making it less desirable to not work.

And the market will fix #2 by forcing employers to find ways to incentivize people to work. That could mean better hours, more consistent work, higher wages... who knows? The market can and will fix it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (wmaTe)

302 I tried to stop 'em Fen ... but the bastards just wouldn't listen.

*sniff*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (tcQdP)

303 Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (Bdeb0)

Blah Blah Blah

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:40 PM (qES5k)

304 The skin on tomatoes used to be a lot thinner and tastier. But since automated harvesting damaged these tomatoes, agronomists created the tougher ,thicker skin tomato. I don't mind the trade off.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:40 PM (czLDv)

305 And isn't it illegal to hire illegal aliens?

Why aren't these farmers being arrested for openly admitting to hiring illegals?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:40 PM (wmaTe)

306 Check how high up the bulgey thingy at the bottom of the wine bottle goes.
Higher it is, less amount of wine in the bottle.

Posted by: rickb223

The wife and I were comparing water the other day. This gallon is 1.19, but this bottle here is larger and only 1.00 -- then looked twice. The bulgey thingy at the bottom of the water rose six inches from the bottom and it was less than 100 ounces - not the 128 ounces in a gallon. But the 100 ounce bottle sure did look bigger to the naked eye.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 01:40 PM (HTdUD)

307
The problem is that it's crappy work, sometimes intermittent, and too many people would rather collect a welfare check, or make less money working at Starbucks.
There's a similar problem with tourism in Maine: a lot of the resorts depend on foreign workers because no one wants to work summer jobs there anymore.

It's a cultural problem that's going to bite us in the ass.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 25, 2017 01:37 PM (Tnhbr)
Is there a special snowflake anywhere that could handle being told to get back to work?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2017 01:40 PM (gjCdx)

308 Provides an opportunity for all the prime specimens of masculine pulchritude here who have male model perfect faces to complain about the smiling cute woman with the ample cleavage because her "butter face" doesn't met the standards of beauty they deserve to see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:38 PM (qES5k)

She meets every one of my standards.
Well, perhaps too young for me.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Summer's Here and the Outrage Outlet Reminds You to Use Sun Scream When At the Beach! at May 25, 2017 01:41 PM (hLRSq)

309
I never made it to her face. She probably has one.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2017 01:41 PM (ODxAs)

310 300 Hunting season?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:35 PM

Just muslim yoots out and about.
Posted by: Minnfidel at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (Hv0jf)

Oh those lovable scamps and their adolescent japes!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:41 PM (SRKgf)

311 Back in my day, my original followers and I only raped and pillaged our way through the Middle East because we felt all sad and isolated. And we needed jobs, dammit.

Posted by: Zombie Mohammed at May 25, 2017 01:41 PM (iO4O0)

312 >>>>I had to pull over. I couldn't drive for laughing. Merkel is supposed to
do what again exactly in a global crisis? Dispatch the Bundeswehr? The
outfit who had to leave a multinational NATO training exercise because
they'd used up all of their available overtime hours? The army which has
about thirty mission-capable tanks left? Those guys?
.
.
.That's a joke, as there is pretty much no more Bundeswehr left. They have 500 main Battle Tanks and 185,000 Active Duty people in a Country with 80 million people. They have a whole 47 attack helicopters and less than 200 pieces of artillery to defend themselves with.

They are a joke.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:41 PM (le7jz)

313 255
I loved that part in the article where the farmer is complaining that if he raises the offered wage, the neighbor farmer then raises his wage.

Like I said, I'm no fancy big-city economist--but I think that's the market screaming at that you your wages are too damned low across the industry.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 01:30 PM (ZQpd0)

It's that, and also the fact that tens of millions of people don't have to take those jobs because of their lavish welfare benefits. Cut that, and suddenly low-wage jobs will look more attractive to low-skilled people.

Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (xjiRE)

314 ...wanting to pay slave wages...

1. department of agriculture sets farm prices.

2. the Obama administration would shut down any business if illegals were not hired.

RWR was probably the last administration before DJT that didn't encourage or require illegals to be hired. There is a law that pays illegals social security if they leave the US when they retire. The reality is that illegals don't have to leave the US to collect because the law isn't being enforced.

The issue is allowing people who (nominally) believe in socialism to be in charge. What socialist really believe is that Special socialist know best and wealth creators are their inferiors. Inferiors who have to be shamed and ordered around and the wealth taken for the Special socialist to consume and distribute. Calling Special socialist socialist is racist.

Posted by: Ok at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (OE5e7)

315 I tried to stop 'em Fen ... but the bastards just wouldn't listen.

*sniff*

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (tcQdP)

What makes me sad is the assumption that only dudes salivate over pulchral amplitude.

I'm sure some of the ladies here are salivating over her bongos as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (TOk1P)

316 Grahamnesty was talking about how the economy simply couldn't *function* without imported labor. He gave the example of a ritzy coastal golf resort in SC, who had a big tournament, and needed extra staff.

But, too bad, so sad, none of the American citizens who applied had been able to pass a drug test. So, you see, it was absolutely imperative to import workers! This important U.S. bidness would have ground to a halt without foreign labor!

They imported those workers from... Jamaica. Yeah, that's the first place I think of when I ostensibly need labor who can pass a drug test. You betcha.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (ujwCG)

317 But since automated harvesting damaged these tomatoes, agronomists created the tougher ,thicker skin tomato. I don't mind the trade off.

Posted by: Jack Sock

I've noticed that too. I can now peel the skin off a tomato pretty quickly without the 'par boil' step.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 01:43 PM (HTdUD)

318 It's that, and also the fact that tens of millions of people don't have to take those jobs because of their lavish welfare benefits. Cut that, and suddenly low-wage jobs will look more attractive to low-skilled people.
Posted by: rickl at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (xjiRE)

Sure. And if they really have to import people, I'm sure they can find plenty of American kids in, say, the south, who would be willing to go to CA for a month to make $22 an hour picking grapes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:43 PM (wmaTe)

319 Bravo, ScoggDog
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (qES5k)

Damn ... Fen - here's the deal ...

... I know this is going to be something of a shock - but I did't really mean any of that bullshit. I've been thinking lurid thoughts about that poor girl that are illegal in twenty-nine states plus Puerto Rico.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 01:43 PM (tcQdP)

320
the smiling cute woman with the ample cleavage because her "butter face" doesn't met the standards of beauty they deserve to see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
___________________________

Hey. I said I'd hit it. What more do you want?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2017 01:44 PM (HSmrB)

321 They have 500 main Battle Tanks and 185,000 Active Duty people in a
Country with 80 million people. They have a whole 47 attack helicopters
and less than 200 pieces of artillery to defend themselves with.

At that point every tank is a Main Battle Tank and every Helo is an attack piece wouldn't you say?

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 01:44 PM (UmSfZ)

322 There's a similar problem with tourism in Maine: a lot of the resorts
depend on foreign workers because no one wants to work summer jobs there
anymore.

It's a cultural problem that's going to bite us in the ass.
===

Yep. We have a generation of fat, lazy, entitled, snowflakes with 100k loans and Master's degrees in GenderBlender Studies from Snobbery U.

They would never consider a summer job waiting tables, landscaping or anything else that involved sweat.

My solution? End Federal Student Loans.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (C52a9)

323 The problem is that it's crappy work, sometimes intermittent,
========
That's exactly it: That farmer says he's offering $22/hr.

Great.

But, it's for what, one or two months? So, $4k to $8k.

Then what?

Then there is this show you might have heard of, Deadliest Catch.
And another, Gold Rush.

These guys work like 5 months a year and somehow have a full year's wages.
And magically, the owners don't really have labor shortages.
And they're still in business.
Employing Americans, too.

Odd.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (ZQpd0)

324 But, too bad, so sad, none of the American citizens who applied had been able to pass a drug test. So, you see, it was absolutely imperative to import workers! This important U.S. bidness would have ground to a halt without foreign labor!

They imported those workers from... Jamaica. Yeah, that's the first place I think of when I ostensibly need labor who can pass a drug test. You betcha.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (ujwCG)

Drug tests are another ridiculous barrier to entry in the labor market. Do you know who doesn't get drug tested? illegal immigrants.

And yet the government has all kinds of incentives for companies to drug test, a lot of companies do it on their own, and they end up excluding a kid who smoked pot 3 weekends before his job interview and wasn't smart enough to buy detox or fake piss from the workplace.

Does a resort really care if their waiters smoke pot on the weekends? No, why should they?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (wmaTe)

325 321
They have 500 main Battle Tanks and 185,000 Active Duty people in a

Country with 80 million people. They have a whole 47 attack helicopters

and less than 200 pieces of artillery to defend themselves with.

At that point every tank is a Main Battle Tank and every Helo is an attack piece wouldn't you say?

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 01:44 PM (UmSfZ)

I'd say they are nothing but fodder if a conflict ever arose.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (jxbfJ)

326 I dunno about row crops, but meat producers do not set the price for what they produce and I suspect it's the same with farmers. So a farmer can't just charge more for lettuce when his labor or other costs increase.

Posted by: stace, so much winning! at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (bwBxJ)

327 A one Billion, That's Billion with a B, for a NATO Building? Billion?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (5y11N)

328 The left, last week: "Americans are way too fat. Americans just eat too much. It would be better if America went on a national diet."

The left, this week: "OMG you can't get rid of illegal alien farm laborers! Think of the consequences! Food prices will go up!"

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:46 PM (ujwCG)

329 Face down, butt up, mouthful of pillow
==========

Nothing wrong with that!

Posted by: Shep! at May 25, 2017 01:46 PM (vg8iE)

330 Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (TOk1P)

They may be, but they may not be talking about her butter face,. As if an male here would kick that woman out of bed for eating crackers or force her face in the pillow so you can do _______ without seeing her face. Give me a freaking break!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:46 PM (qES5k)

331 The wife and I were comparing water the other day. This gallon is 1.19, but this bottle here is larger and only 1.00 -- then looked twice. The bulgey thingy at the bottom of the water rose six inches from the bottom and it was less than 100 ounces - not the 128 ounces in a gallon. But the 100 ounce bottle sure did look bigger to the naked eye.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum

Round, crystal clear jug? Not opaque like a milk jug?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:46 PM (4BGeF)

332 They imported those workers from... Jamaica. Yeah, that's the first place I think of when I ostensibly need labor who can pass a drug test. You betcha.

Posted by: torquewrench

I'd bet there's a Jamaican woman - pregnant probably so not doing dope -- who can sell every ounce of pee she can on the yellow market.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 01:47 PM (HTdUD)

333 I rate that young lady as Putting Seven Babies in Her.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 01:47 PM (2qHjF)

334 I'd bet there's a Jamaican woman - pregnant probably so not doing dope -- who can sell every ounce of pee she can on the yellow market.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 01:47 PM (HTdUD)

Real pot heads all know how to beat drug tests. If someone fails a pre-employment drug screening for weed, it means they don't smoke enough weed to know how to buy detox or where to buy fake pee (sex shops or the internet)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (wmaTe)

335 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 01:43 PM (tcQdP)

Really? I was giving you points for not being a jackass

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (qES5k)

336 324
Does a resort really care if their waiters smoke pot on the weekends? No, why should they?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (wmaTe)

Through my travels, I've had conversations with hiring managers and even HR staff. about drug testing. Basically there comments were that if there was any drug testing in the company, we'd lose over half the staff.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (jxbfJ)

337 Drug tests are another ridiculous barrier to entry in the labor market. Do you know who doesn't get drug tested? illegal immigrants.

And yet the government has all kinds of incentives for companies to drug test, a lot of companies do it on their own, and they end up excluding a kid who smoked pot 3 weekends before his job interview and wasn't smart enough to buy detox or fake piss from the workplace.

Does a resort really care if their waiters smoke pot on the weekends? No, why should they?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (wmaTe)

===========

Congress should be forced to submit to random piss tests.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (vg8iE)

338 Someone gave this asshole a suicide vest. Obviously he wasn't "isolated". Proabably well connected to some mosque.

His Whole Freaking Family are terrorists. Daddy and all his brothers are Libyan Islamic Fanatics.
--
It's really our fault.

If we just left all Muslims alone, treated with them with the respect of conquerors, let them genocide non-Muslims and became part of the Caliphate, this would probably stop.

Posted by: The MFM at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (aT+Bx)

339 >>>>They have 500 main Battle Tanks and 185,000 Active Duty people in a

Country with 80 million people. They have a whole 47 attack helicopters

and less than 200 pieces of artillery to defend themselves with.

At that point every tank is a Main Battle Tank and every Helo is an attack piece wouldn't you say?
.
.
.Heck they couldn't defend their Country from the Michigan National Guard let alone Russia if it came to that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (le7jz)

340 327
A one Billion, That's Billion with a B, for a NATO Building? Billion?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 01:45 PM (5y11N)

Nothing is too good with our taxpayer money

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (jxbfJ)

341 They may be, but they may not be talking about her butter face,. As if an male here would kick that woman out of bed for eating crackers or force her face in the pillow so you can do _______ without seeing her face. Give me a freaking break!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

in all honesty, speaking for myself, my tongue is firmly in my cheek.

It's the way of the horde...

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (FZYNt)

342 ...It's a cultural problem that's going to bite us in the ass...

I'm thinking all these snowflakes will want assisted suicide when they are about 50.

The snowflakes will be so debauched at 50 that no one will be willing to spend money on them to debauch them some more. DC is running out of other people's money now. Can't imagine DC will want to spend wealth on old special snowflakes thirty years from now.

Posted by: Ok at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (OE5e7)

343 she probably has a nice personality to match those bazongas.

Think positive, BE positive.

Posted by: name, rank, cereal # at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (ihtYN)

344 Thought that my AdBlock was on the fritz when I saw that picture because it looked like what would accompany a spam ad - 'One Weird Trick Will Make You Irresistible To Women!'

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (oZ6kz)

345 Drug tests are another ridiculous barrier to entry in the labor market.

Or, alternatively, people who want to enter the labor market could not do drugs.

Crazy talk, I know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:49 PM (SRKgf)

346 boobs.

Posted by: corndog at May 25, 2017 01:49 PM (p3eEq)

347 333 I rate that young lady as Putting Seven Babies in Her.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 01:47 PM (2qHjF)

She's got a nice condo, Pepe. Not your type.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 01:49 PM (tcQdP)

348 I'd gladly pay a bit more for my produce not to have entire schools in my state where all the students are illegal aliens.
Posted by: Maritime at May 25, 2017 01:33 PM (SCkw/)

THIS. Factor in the public assistance, public health, public education, and sadly often crime as costs and then ask yourself how "cheap" that produce *really* is.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 25, 2017 01:49 PM (ujg0T)

349 Through my travels, I've had conversations with hiring managers and even HR staff. about drug testing. Basically there comments were that if there was any drug testing in the company, we'd lose over half the staff.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (jxbfJ)

Right. Most companies do the obligatory pre-employment drug test then never test again unless they suspect an employee of being high at work.

Because marijuana stays in your system for up to a month. They'd be firing a ton of people who took a hit of a joint 3 weekends earlier at a concert but are great employees. Why would you risk that if you're an employer?

But even pre-employment drug tests are bullshit. Since the people who know they are going to fail can spend $40 on detox or fake pee. It's only the idiots who don't know about detox or fake pee or who don't realize that pot can stay in your system for so long who fail it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (wmaTe)

350 25 nice rack

butter face

_____________

wait a sec?!?! she has a face?

Posted by: Fox at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (TFUTH)

351 Congress should be forced to submit to random piss tests.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (vg8iE)

I, for one, would be happy to piss on them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (SRKgf)

352 I want to up twinkles you morons on the fact that you noticed boobie girl's face at all.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (+lVUW)

353 I'd love to hear her moan in Austrian.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (0mRoj)

354 4th Circuit upholds block of Trump's travel ban.

Posted by: josephistan at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (ANIFC)

355 It's an incentive problems.

The incentives to not work are too high, and the incentives TO work are too low.

The government can easily fix #1 by making it less desirable to not work.

And the market will fix #2 by forcing employers to find ways to incentivize people to work. That could mean better hours, more consistent work, higher wages... who knows? The market can and will fix it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:39 PM (wmaTe)

The problem is that #1 overwhelms #2. A lot of these jobs would have to raise wages by so much that they'd never be able to compete.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (Tnhbr)

356 Drug tests are another ridiculous barrier to entry in the labor market. Do you know who doesn't get drug tested? illegal immigrants.

++
I'm going to make a stab and guess they are not forced to attend and watch those "sexual harassment at work" videos either.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (+eKyB)

357 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 01:43 PM (tcQdP)

I mean, not that you're regularly a jackass or anytime that I can remember., actually You have made that same comment before. so I'm assuming you do believe it. You can think anything you like or post anything you like.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (qES5k)

358 I dunno about row crops, but meat producers do not set the price for what they produce and I suspect it's the same with farmers. So a farmer can't just charge more for lettuce when his labor or other costs increase.

Ok so the way adam smith's pimp hand does this in a market economy, either the price will rise across the board for that product or the farmer and rancher will no longer produce it and an import may be the alternative.The farmer or rancher will then move to a more economically viable crop.

however, if it becomes scarce prices will rise and it will be grown locally again.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (ODxAs)

359 352 I want to up twinkles you morons

is that a sexual act?

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (FZYNt)

360 352 I want to up twinkles you morons on the fact that you noticed boobie girl's face at all.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (+lVUW)

Face...?

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (0mRoj)

361 Or, alternatively, people who want to enter the labor market could not do drugs.

Crazy talk, I know.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:49 PM (SRKgf)

Yeah, sure, in a perfect world.

But people do smoke weed. Especially young people.

So what are you going to do? Say "no work for any young person who has smoked weed in the last month, you guys gotta mooch off mom and dad and/or go on welfare"?

That seems to be an absurd outcome.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (wmaTe)

362 Okay, boobie girl was disrespectful. We'll call her The Milk Maid.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (+lVUW)

363 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (wmaTe)

Tell me how you beat a random drug test. You carry preemptive pee with you at all times?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (czLDv)

364 Round, crystal clear jug? Not opaque like a milk jug?

Posted by: rickb223

Yeah, round crystal clear. Name brand of some sort, but I've forgotten the name already.

Turned that sucker over and the light bulb went off in my head and the wifes simultaneously. We just looked at each other and cracked up laughing.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 01:51 PM (HTdUD)

365 "They have 500 main Battle Tanks and 185,000 Active Duty people in a Country with 80 million people."

As of April of this year, _Die Zeit_ was quoting a grand total of 167 Leopard 2 MBT remaining in the German tables of organization and equipment.

Not all of which are functional. Down due to inadequate spares, and inadequate manning (personing?) of maintenance details.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:52 PM (ujwCG)

366 my tongue is firmly in my cheek.

Posted Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (FZYNt)

Firmly in your cheek?. Well, that must mean one side of your face at least is a butter face. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:52 PM (qES5k)

367 At least it's not a thread full of dick jokes.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (AM1GF)

368 >>>Through my travels, I've had conversations with hiring managers and even
HR staff. about drug testing. Basically there comments were that if
there was any drug testing in the company, we'd lose over half the
staff.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (jxbfJ)

Right. Most companies do the obligatory pre-employment drug test
then never test again unless they suspect an employee of being high at
work.

Because marijuana stays in your system for up to a month. They'd be
firing a ton of people who took a hit of a joint 3 weekends earlier at a
concert but are great employees. Why would you risk that if you're an
employer?

But even pre-employment drug tests are bullshit. Since the people
who know they are going to fail can spend $40 on detox or fake pee. It's
only the idiots who don't know about detox or fake pee or who don't
realize that pot can stay in your system for so long who fail it.
.
.
.After I retired from the Navy I worked as a janitor between jobs at a small family owned manufacturing plant with about 100 workers. Everyone one was drug tested before they got hired and they did random testing monthly.

It certainly weeds out the slackers....pun intended.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (le7jz)

369 The problem is that #1 overwhelms #2. A lot of these jobs would have to raise wages by so much that they'd never be able to compete.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 25, 2017 01:50 PM (Tnhbr)

::shrug::

well at least then the true cost of #1 will be more clear and measurable then it is now. Because currently, we have the worst of both worlds.

A ton of people on welfare.

A ton of illegals working under the table who also collect welfare through their US citizen kids, and also use all kinds of services from hospitals to ambulances to police to schooling for their kids, etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (wmaTe)

370 Right. Most companies do the obligatory pre-employment drug test then never test again unless they suspect an employee of being high at work.

Because marijuana stays in your system for up to a month. They'd be firing a ton of people who took a hit of a joint 3 weekends earlier at a concert but are great employees. Why would you risk that if you're an employer?

In some industries, due to the type of industry, they test randomly, regularly like clockwork. Not a piss test, hair test.
Thank the fedgov and liability lawyers.
Chemical industry for one.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (4BGeF)

371 333 I rate that young lady as Putting Seven Babies in Her.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 01:47 PM (2qHjF)

I don't think they'll fit, Dr. Mengele.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (0mRoj)

372 330
Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2017 01:42 PM (TOk1P)

They may be, but they may not be talking about her butter face,. As
if an male here would kick that woman out of bed for eating crackers or
force her face in the pillow so you can do _______ without seeing her
face. Give me a freaking break!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:46 PM (qES5k)

Right on Fenelon. Hypothetically, if she were alone with me - I'd be grateful simply for being invited to the party.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (jxbfJ)

373 After I retired from the Navy I worked as a janitor between jobs at a small family owned manufacturing plant with about 100 workers. Everyone one was drug tested before they got hired and they did random testing monthly.

It certainly weeds out the slackers....pun intended.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (le7jz)

I guess, but those slackers are still eating dinner every night. Someone is paying for that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:54 PM (wmaTe)

374
If govt welfare is gone, the supply of workers rises and the wage drops.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2017 01:54 PM (ODxAs)

375 367 At least it's not a thread full of dick jokes.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (AM1GF)

Look who's all cocksure.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:54 PM (0mRoj)

376 In some industries, due to the type of industry, they test randomly, regularly like clockwork. Not a piss test, hair test.
Thank the fedgov and liability lawyers.
Chemical industry for one.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (4BGeF)

Sure. FAA and DOT and others require it of specific industries.

Also kind of stupid, but maybe a little bit more understandable then drug testing every potential burger flipper applying for a job at McDonalds.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:54 PM (wmaTe)

377 375 367 At least it's not a thread full of dick jokes.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (AM1GF)

Look who's all cocksure.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy

I don't know where my pen is

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (FZYNt)

378 >>There's a similar problem with tourism in Maine: a lot of the resorts

depend on foreign workers because no one wants to work summer jobs there

anymore.

Yes, because they've convinced kids that they MUST fill up their CV with all sorts of unpaid internships and other good works/activism in order to get into a good college. Flipping burgers, cleaning rooms, etc. doesn't count.

This, along with the open borders and lavish welfare benefits, has ensured that we "need" all of those uneducated illegals to do these entry-level jobs.
What they always fail to acknowledge is that you chance one piece of this system - such as take away the illegal immigrant employee pool - and other things will change, too.Fore example, IIRC Tyson chicken was busted with an ICE raid and they had many citizen applicants willing to fill in those vacated positions.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (NOIQH)

379 1. Get up in the morning
2. Shower and shave
3. Put on clean clothes
4. Get to work on time
5. DON'T DO METH

Oppressive and triggering I know, but it still works for me 40 years into the workforce.

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (UmSfZ)

380 At least it's not a thread full of dick jokes.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 01:53 PM (AM1GF)

I gave that thread a loooooong pass. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (qES5k)

381 She looks cute here...

http://file.gamedonga.co.kr/files/images/news_images_w/wcg20051024_03.jpg

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (Hnqc1)

382 But people do smoke weed. Especially young people.

So what are you going to do? Say "no work for any young person who has smoked weed in the last month, you guys gotta mooch off mom and dad and/or go on welfare"?

Yep. They have a decision to make. And they made it. Now they have to live with it.

Simple, really.

You could make the same argument about drunk driving. People do drink, people do drive. But driving drunk is not a given, something that can't be helped.

Last, weed is not the main problem. I'd say meth is the big problem, followed by heroin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (SRKgf)

383 Through my travels, I've had conversations with hiring managers and even HR staff. about drug testing. Basically there comments were that if there was any drug testing in the company, we'd lose over half the staff.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 01:48 PM (jxbfJ)

====

I once worked for a company that was purchased by General Electric. After things were finalized they want to do Institute immediate drug testing. the general manager had to ask them to wait for 45 days or they were going to lose a lot of people. General Electric insisted and we lost about 25 very good employees.

Posted by: GOULD at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (HsCKK)

384 What some people round here don't know about men is a lot

Posted by: MAx at May 25, 2017 01:56 PM (9TR2V)

385 1. Get up in the morning
2. Shower and shave
3. Put on clean clothes
4. Get to work on time
5. DON'T DO METH

Oppressive and triggering I know, but it still works for me 40 years into the workforce.
Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (UmSfZ)

Well, meth, like all hard drugs, stays in your system for 24-48 hours. So unless you're actually high on meth at work, your chances of failing a drug test for meth are pretty slim.

Marijuana is a completely different story -- 30 days.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:56 PM (wmaTe)

386 ...well, cute in a Fraggle Rock kinda way.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (Hnqc1)

387 >>>>
"They have 500 main Battle Tanks and 185,000 Active Duty people in a Country with 80 million people."

As
of April of this year, _Die Zeit_ was quoting a grand total of 167
Leopard 2 MBT remaining in the German tables of organization and
equipment.

Not all of which are functional. Down due to inadequate spares, and inadequate manning (personing?) of maintenance details.
.
.
.I was going with Global Firepower for numbers but they may be out of date. With 176 Leopard II's they can't be fielding more than two short Battalions of Armor taking out training tracks and dead lined ones.

There is pretty much nothing they could do to stop anyone with those numbers. Their Navy is even worse. They are worthless to NATO. We need to use our option and bail on that Treaty.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (le7jz)

388 Oh, FFS. Paul Ryan is out there apologizing to the world for the Great Montana Pajama Boy Slam and condemning all violence, everywhere. I'm surprised he didn't equate it to ISIS terror attacks.

Trump really needs to send a hit team to body slam that twit.

Posted by: Ripley at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (1BQGO)

389 And also, that's a lovely lady. Or, if I read the REST of what's there right, she was 12 years ago...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (AM1GF)

390 Fen ...

... you'll get my sense of humor. One day. Maybe.

But then again - that'll be the day it won't be so fun.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (tcQdP)

391 Posted by: GOULD at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (HsCKK)

So the 25 that replaced them are bad?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (czLDv)

392
In a functional economy , if you are not profitable, you go under.

I disagree that farmers are "too big to fail" but they argue that and win anyway.

I blame Big Lettuce.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (C52a9)

393 Who needs tanks anyway?We have to fight hate with love.

Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (rmVvL)

394 379 1. Get up in the morning
2. Shower and shave
3. Put on clean clothes
4. Get to work on time
5. DON'T DO METH

Oppressive and triggering I know, but it still works for me 40 years into the workforce.
Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (UmSfZ)

But people do smoke meth, especially young people, who like to smoke a bowl or two on the weekends. We've got to make allowances for that. /sarc

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (SRKgf)

395 Also kind of stupid, but maybe a little bit more understandable then drug testing every potential burger flipper applying for a job at McDonalds.

Could be why the burger flipper can't get the order right.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (4BGeF)

396 >>Through my travels, I've had conversations with hiring managers and even

HR staff. about drug testing. Basically there comments were that if

there was any drug testing in the company, we'd lose over half the

staff.

So why the big push to legalize pot?!?
How can a politician push for legal weed and at the same time insist we need illegals because the citizens fail drug tests? Ridiculous.
Also, open borders + legal weed has just invited *more* foreign drug dealers into the arena, not eliminated them. That is the case here in CO.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 25, 2017 01:58 PM (NOIQH)

397 395 Also kind of stupid, but maybe a little bit more understandable then drug testing every potential burger flipper applying for a job at McDonalds.

Could be why the burger flipper can't get the order right.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (4BGeF)

I think illiteracy and innumeracy have more to do with it.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:58 PM (0mRoj)

398 Could be why the burger flipper can't get the order right.
Posted by: rickb223

or maybe they just don't give a shit

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2017 01:58 PM (FZYNt)

399 What some people round here don't know about men is a lot
Posted by: MAx at May 25, 2017 01:56 PM (9TR2V)

So you're saying that even men here would kick her out of bed for her butter face? O.K. That's rather a disappointment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:58 PM (qES5k)

400 My oh my. What big teats you have.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at May 25, 2017 01:59 PM (yDmP8)

401 >>388
Oh, FFS. Paul Ryan is out there apologizing to the world for the Great
Montana Pajama Boy Slam and condemning all violence, everywhere. I'm
surprised he didn't equate it to ISIS terror attacks. Trump really needs to send a hit team to body slam that twit. Posted by: Ripley at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (1BQGO)

Ryan's vicarious redemption move--cute. What a smirking fool.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 01:59 PM (Bdeb0)

402 Last, weed is not the main problem. I'd say meth is the big problem, followed by heroin.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 01:55 PM (SRKgf)

Then why test for weed? The overwhelming majority (I think I read 95%+ recently but I can't find the link) of pre-employment drug screening failures are for marijuana.

Most likely because drug addicts a) know how to fool the tests, it's pretty easy. and b) know that meth, coke, opiates, etc only stay in your system for 24-48 hours and that c) if you have a prescription for any drug in any of those classes, you can fail for the drug and it's not a problem.

For example, if you have an adderrall script, you'll fail for meth. The tests can't differentiate the amphetamines from each other, so as long as you can show a doctors note, you can fail for amphetamines and still get the job.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:59 PM (wmaTe)

403 I figure that knocking off the bong hits for a month or so prior to interviewing is one of those things employers may expect as a simple diligence filter. Akin to showing up on time to the interview, and being neatly groomed. If people can't even get it together to do those basic things, well...

As for hiring stoners, there was a piece about the economic boom in CO after the legalization of weed, which did quote a guy who ran an ordinary non-marijuana business in the state, and who was despairing over what legal weed had done to his workforce. Absenteeism, workers' comp claims, and employee theft way up. Quality control and productivity in the toilet.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 01:59 PM (ujwCG)

404 4th Circuit largely affirms nationwide injunction blocking Trump travel ban

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mfsdgmb

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (rUIbB)

405 It's not that there's no room for imported labor. LEGAL, regulated, normal imported labor. Mostly seasonal, and short-term. It exists already, and it existed in the past.

There probably IS room for that. But it has to be done up-front, explicitly, with REAL economic impact analysis and real requirements to first find US labor.

Costs will, should, rise. But the hidden costs ("externalities" - in this case a legit use of the concept that otherwise has been hijacked to lend faux legitimacy to statist/authoritarian efforts to run everyone's lives) will be eliminated.

There is no serious, remotely persuasive argument for illegal labor if the alternative of regulated contract imported labor and H1Bs run by the actual requirements of the law were in existence. Ag or other sectors who would "suffer" are no different than an energy company that was allowed to skirt all the environmental regulations and thereby have lower costs, then was forced to comply. No violin music, sorry.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (QDnY+)

406 388 Oh, FFS. Paul Ryan is out there apologizing to the world for the Great Montana Pajama Boy Slam and condemning all violence, everywhere. I'm surprised he didn't equate it to ISIS terror attacks.

Trump really needs to send a hit team to body slam that twit.

Posted by: Ripley at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (1BQGO)

Anyone caught the tape of it? Guardian twit was a "tosser" and had it coming.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (ujg0T)

407 Oh, FFS. Paul Ryan is out there apologizing to the world for the Great Montana Pajama Boy Slam and condemning all violence, everywhere.

I'm surprised he didn't equate it to ISIS terror attacks.

Can't. Terror attacks are totes kewl. Expressionism.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (4BGeF)

408 Could be why the burger flipper can't get the order right.
Posted by: rickb223

or maybe they just don't give a shit

Posted by: Rick in SK

How you doin'?

Posted by: BurgerBot kiosk at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (AM1GF)

409 I rate that young lady as Putting Seven Babies in Her.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 01:47 PM (2qHjF)

--
I don't think they'll fit, Dr. Mengele. Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 01:53

--

We'll make it work.

Posted by: The IFV industry at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (aT+Bx)

410 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:59 PM (wmaTe)

drug tests can distinguish depending on the spectrum used.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (czLDv)

411 >>So you're saying that even men here would kick her out of bed for her butter face? O.K. That's rather a disappointment. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 01:58 PM (qES5k)

She has a nice body. Zod would not kick her out of bed for her butter face. He would ask her to put her face in the pillow so he could do___.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (Bdeb0)

412 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 01:59 PM (wmaTe)

Why are you so hot about this? You want a job, don't do drugs. Is that that difficult?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (SRKgf)

413 There was a guy in the NYPD who "accidentally" shoe himself in the foot to avoid a random drug test.

Didn't work.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (+7/1f)

414 Who exactly picked all of America's crops before illegals stampeded into the country?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (mQ0Mc)

415 Could be why the burger flipper can't get the order right.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (4BGeF)

Could be, but McDonalds and other's do pre-employment AND random drug screenings.

I think you're more likely to run in to a lawyer or politician or teacher or whatnot with weed in his system then a McDonalds employee with weed in his system. (slightly exaggerating here, but you get my point.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (wmaTe)

416 Oh, FFS. Paul Ryan is out there apologizing to the world for the Great
Montana Pajama Boy Slam and condemning all violence, everywhere.

I'm surprised he didn't equate it to ISIS terror attacks.

===

Maybe the congressman was sad about being so 'isolated'.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (C52a9)

417 So unless you're actually high on meth at work, your chances of failing a drug test for meth are pretty slim.

LOL... tweakers out themselves all the time and they don't even know it. There's nothing that said the test I gave you yesterday won't be followed by another one today.
Especially after you've organized the salt and pepper shakers by size, again, and then by volume, again, then back to by size...

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (UmSfZ)

418 So the 25 that replaced them are bad?
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 01:57 PM (czLDv)

=========

They were never fully replaced as they were technicians in a very specialized field. we wound up hiring half of them back on a freelance basis at twice the rate we were paying them previously.

Posted by: GOULD at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (HsCKK)

419 Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (Bdeb0)

Utter bs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (qES5k)

420 Hadn't seen Jennifer Connelley rocking horse. Made my day.

Back then she was a parody of the Girl Next Door Fantasy, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (+7/1f)

421 Without cash registers that do it for them, most burger flippers couldn't figure out change for a dollar on a 99 cent purchase.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (yDmP8)

422 413 There was a guy in the NYPD who "accidentally" shoe himself in the foot to avoid a random drug test.

Didn't work.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (+7/1f)

Seriously? Seems like that would give all the more motivation for doing the test.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (0mRoj)

423 So now we have "shovegate". Trump pushing the Montenegro leader out of the way for a pic. I didn't know Montenegro was a Country...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (O2RFr)

424 It's not that there's no room for imported labor. LEGAL, regulated, normal imported labor. Mostly seasonal, and short-term. It exists already, and it existed in the past.

There probably IS room for that. But it has to be done up-front, explicitly, with REAL economic impact analysis and real requirements to first find US labor.

Caesar Chavez was against illegal immigrants.
He knew it would affect legal farm workers.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (4BGeF)

425
I haven't said this in a while, but I really hate paul ryan. I hope he loses to a democrat.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (ODxAs)

426 LOL... tweakers out themselves all the time and they don't even know it. There's nothing that said the test I gave you yesterday won't be followed by another one today.
Especially after you've organized the salt and pepper shakers by size, again, and then by volume, again, then back to by size...
Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (UmSfZ)

One look at dentition usually tells the tale.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (SRKgf)

427 Harry it's rather strange -the drug testing- meth mainly is out of your system in days, which is why you probably can get around the testing method more easily (although I have read it stays in your hair follicles longer ) )where pot is half a yearto a year or more, but which drug instigates the more violent and criminal activity?

Posted by: willow at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (iS1Cb)

428 I don't smoke weed, but my supervisor does - I know the right likes fighting losing battles, but this is another losing battle.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (oZ6kz)

429 Why are you so hot about this? You want a job, don't do drugs. Is that that difficult?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (SRKgf)

Because drug tests piss me off. I've had to take many in the last 10 years, and it's degrading and insulting to me.

"We'll only give you this job if you piss in a cup and prove to us that you don't smoke weed on weekends" just really rubs me the wrong way. I'd be much more for it if they could come up with a test to ensure that the person hasn't drank alcohol in the last 30 days either.

...And I don't even smoke weed. I just find it humiliating and degrading to have to go to the fucking ghetto, stand in line with a bunch of people on parole, and piss in a cup.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (wmaTe)

430 Its cautiously good news but I'm still expecting a pretty nasty dip coming before things truly get better. Its definitely true that businesses were not hiring and were careful about any expenditures with ACA and Hillary likely in the White House, so they're taking a deep gasp of relief and trying to build up again now. So that means hiring, building, expanding, etc.

But there are some pretty godawful mines in the road ahead that need to be cleared, yet.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (39g3+)

431 "404 4th Circuit largely affirms nationwide injunction blocking Trump travel ban"

No surprise. Obama stacked the 4th Circuit with left wing loons. Used to be one of the better appellate courts.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (OD2ni)

432 LOL... tweakers out themselves all the time and they don't even know it. There's nothing that said the test I gave you yesterday won't be followed by another one today.

Hair follicle test.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (4BGeF)

433 423
So now we have "shovegate". Trump pushing the Montenegro leader out of
the way for a pic. I didn't know Montenegro was a Country...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (O2RFr)

Well, they hadn't paid their fair share, so they don't get to be in the center of the picture.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (jxbfJ)

434 4th Circuit largely affirms nationwide injunction blocking Trump travel ban

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mfsdgmb
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 25, 2017 02:00 PM (rUIbB)

I guess they missed his group hug in Saudi Arabia?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (5y11N)

435 "Posted by: It's Me donna at May 25, 2017 02:02 PM (O2RFr)"

I believe the accepted parlance now is Monteafricanamerican.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (oZ6kz)

436 There was a guy in the NYPD who "accidentally" shoe himself in the foot to avoid a random drug test.

I usually shoe my feet too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (ODxAs)

437 And here we go.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (C52a9)

438 Posted by: GOULD at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (HsCKK)

So you broke even on pay rate and came out ahead on total benefits. Score!

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (czLDv)

439 Oh, FFS. Paul Ryan is out there apologizing to the world for the Great Montana Pajama Boy Slam and condemning all violence, everywhere.

--

He must've been super dooper busy when Trump supporters were attending rallies and being spit on, punched, knocked down, bloodied and having their hair set on fire. 'Cause I don't remember him front and center condemning that violence. He may have. I just don't remember it.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (mQ0Mc)

440
The people who would ____ their ________ in the ____ are getting annoying and I wish they would cut it the ____ out.

New, improved AoS commenter.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 02:05 PM (HTdUD)

441 No surprise. Obama stacked the 4th Circuit with left wing loons. Used to be one of the better appellate courts.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (OD2ni)

And none of this matters...it's going to the Supreme Court and better get used to it...The Left is going to drag eveything there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 02:05 PM (5y11N)

442 427 Harry it's rather strange -the drug testing- meth mainly is out of your system in days, which is why you probably can get around the testing method more easily (although I have read it stays in your hair follicles longer ) )where pot is half a yearto a year or more, but which drug instigates the more violent and criminal activity?
Posted by: willow at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (iS1Cb)

Well, it's just that most drugs are water soluble and leave your body quickly. But marijuana stores in fat cells and can stay in your body for months.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:05 PM (wmaTe)

443 "We'll only give you this job if you piss in a cup and prove to us that you don't smoke weed on weekends" just really rubs me the wrong way.

I don't drink, the toughest drug I take is aspirin for migraines. But I agree, this is not just degrading, its way too intrusive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)

444 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (wmaTe)

Do you fill humiliated when you go to your doctor for your physical. You got to pee in a cup then too.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:06 PM (czLDv)

445 May Warns Special Relationship Undermined By Leaks..

LOL...yeah sure, go it alone May?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 02:06 PM (5y11N)

446 I don't understand why the Trump administration didn't make an emergency appeal to the SCOTUS of the travel ban the second Gorsuch was seated.

This bullshit needs to stop and it needs to stop now.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (RzE4V)

447 Honestly, drug testing is a decent stand-in for judgement and self-control, both of which are still pretty important in the workplace. If you can't show enough of either to test clean, no sane employer would want you (and some of the crazier ones might take a second glance).

If you know what's required and can't be assed enough to just jump through the damn hoop, even just the once, why should I bother with you?

Posted by: BurgerBot kiosk at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (AM1GF)

448 Employers testing for nicotine irks the shit out of me.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (0mRoj)

449 The last place I got tested for drugs I had to sit and spit in a cup. The saliva was then instantly tested right in front of you. I can imagine a lot of "oops's" and back-pedaling when the results went side-ways.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (+eKyB)

450 >>May Warns Special Relationship Undermined By Leaks.

The leaks have hurt Hillary and my relationship.

Also, the Drips.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (pXi0m)

451 Drug testing is also hugely inefficient due to, what else, government regulation. I spent 6 months working for a family member that runs a third-party administration business for drug testing. Lots of red tape.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (oZ6kz)

452 I don't understand why the Trump administration didn't make an emergency appeal to the SCOTUS of the travel ban the second Gorsuch was seated.

This bullshit needs to stop and it needs to stop now.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (RzE4V)

Yeah me to, I don't get that one either

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (5y11N)

453 Hair follicle test.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2017 02:04 PM (4BGeF)

Same problem with urine or blood tests. Hard drugs are out of your system very quickly and usually don't show up in the hair of a casual user.

Marijuana will.

And of course, hair tests are the most cheatable of any drug tests -- you can buy shampoo online that fucks with the markers in the tests so you come back clean even if you're a heroin addict who is high on opiates at the time of the test.

Or, like most drug addicts, you probably have a script for your drug class of choice anyways, which means that you don't care if you fail for opiates because you have a script for opiates from a doctor.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:07 PM (wmaTe)

454 The people who would ____ their ________ in the ____ are getting annoying and I wish they would cut it the ____ out.

New, improved AoS commenter.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 02:05 PM (HTdUD)

Ohhhh Mad Libs!

Hmmmm. *ponders*

I MIGHT NOT FILL ALL THE SPACES WITH THE SWEARS! IT COULD HAPPEN!

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 25, 2017 02:08 PM (mf5HN)

455 >>443
"We'll only give you this job if you piss in a cup and prove to us
that you don't smoke weed on weekends" just really rubs me the wrong
way.

On a somewhat related note, I've always found those signs on business doors ("all of our employees are drug tested") a little odd.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:08 PM (Bdeb0)

456 >>Honestly, drug testing is a decent stand-in for judgement and self-control

So, beating them should count for double.

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 02:08 PM (pXi0m)

457 When FenSpouse went to work for Amazon they did a saliva test too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 02:09 PM (qES5k)

458 Ryan really is a particularly loathsome, vile, and stupid guy (stupid, oh yes, look up his ludicrous "economic" ideas that betray zero economics literacy).

Insh'allah the GOP wins anyway, and becomes one more vote for a different speaker.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 02:09 PM (QDnY+)

459 That's Gamer Girl! Ha ha ha! We blogged about this chick showing up at a gaming con a long time ago.

Later on, Ace posted on the economy and captioned her pic with something like, "My lacy bra cannot contain these expanding economic indicators" or some such hilarious quip. And then he went on, and he kept dragging her tits out every chance he could, iirc.

Nice callback, Ace. Too bad most of the oldtimers are gone.

Posted by: lauraw at May 25, 2017 02:09 PM (D+nQH)

460 You what pisses me off?

The same employers that bitch about dope smoking ,lazy-ass kids will hire 115 dope smoking lazy-ass kids before they even think about giving a 40+ unemployed but qualified, career-changer a shot.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:09 PM (C52a9)

461 Cyborg solidarity be damned, sock off. Not my week for sock control.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 02:09 PM (AM1GF)

462 I don't understand why the Trump administration didn't make an emergency appeal to the SCOTUS of the travel ban the second Gorsuch was seated.

This bullshit needs to stop and it needs to stop now.

--

I honestly don't think it would stop (the desire to flood the country with "refugees" from terrorist hotspots) even if it were Sasha or Malia that got a face full of nails from an exploding bomb. The left's desire to upend Western civilization is just too great.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 25, 2017 02:10 PM (mQ0Mc)

463 I know the causation/correlation shtick, and I know weed smokers that don't smoke meth, BUT I don't know a single meth user that doesn't also smoke weed.
I have to deal with it in my immediate family every day, so I may know a little bit about the collateral damage drugs cause.

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 02:10 PM (UmSfZ)

464 460 You what pisses me off?

The same employers that bitch about dope smoking ,lazy-ass kids will hire 115 dope smoking lazy-ass kids before they even think about giving a 40+ unemployed but qualified, career-changer a shot.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:09 PM (C52a9)

That's because they're short-sighted cheap bastards.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 02:10 PM (0mRoj)

465 Re: pic

So she's going to reprise Sigourney Weaver's role in the Galaxy Quest reboot?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2017 02:10 PM (TnxsG)

466

lauraw!

Posted by: garrett at May 25, 2017 02:10 PM (pXi0m)

467 This will be shocking news I know, but people who do meth are hyper sexual. Literally need to be in an institution to control their sexual impulses and impulses in general.

They are on the same level as goat fuckers.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (2qHjF)

468 Do you fill humiliated when you go to your doctor for your physical. You got to pee in a cup then too.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:06 PM (czLDv)

No, because I'm going to the doctor to get a physical.

It's a little different when my employer makes me do it.

I assume you've never been drug tested? Because if you have, you'll know what I mean about how degrading it is to be lined up with a bunch of parolees and have someone standing outside the door screaming at you to not flush the toilet or wash your hands while you have to pee in to a cup.

...and the drug test people (where I've gone at least) treat everyone like a liar and convicted felon. You feel like you're being marched around by prison guards.

"Stand here. Empty your pockets here. Do this. Show me your ID. I need a second form of ID." etc. etc.

It's like combining jail with the DMV with flying out of O'Hare.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (wmaTe)

469 The same employers that bitch about dope smoking ,lazy-ass kids will hire 115 dope smoking lazy-ass kids before they even think about giving a 40+ unemployed but qualified, career-changer a shot.

Hey those guys expect to get paid and can't be intimidated into taking overtime without pay!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (39g3+)

470 The people who would _POKE___ their __FACE______ in the _EYEA___ are getting annoying and I wish they would cut it the _COUPON___ out.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (MZcWR)

471 >>Mad libs Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 25, 2017 02:08 PM (mf5HN)

Excellent idea. Mine: archive, classified emails with NGA imagery, private server, fuck.

Posted by: General Zod at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (Bdeb0)

472 So, beating them should count for double.

Posted by: garrett

Plus: Task-oriented thinking, ability to devise and execute a plan

Minus: Places self over others (including prospective employer)

I'm willing to give the devil his due, but there's limits.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (AM1GF)

473 Here is the crux of that 4th Circuit descision...

"The question for this Court, distilled to its essential form, is whether the Constitution, as the Supreme Court declared in ... remains "a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace." And if so, whether it protects Plaintiffs' right to challenge an Executive Order that in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination. Surely the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment yet stands as an untiring sentinel for the protection of one of our most cherished founding principles that government shall not establish any religious orthodoxy, or favor or disfavor one religion over another. Congress granted the President broad power to deny entry to aliens, but that power is not absolute. It cannot go unchecked when, as here, the President wields it through an executive edict that stands to cause irreparable harm to individuals across this nation. Therefore, for the reasons that follow, we affirm in substantial part the district court's issuance of a nationwide preliminary injunction as to Section 2c of the challenged Executive Order."

^^^ Total horseshit, if you ask me.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (Hnqc1)

474 ..And I don't even smoke weed. I just find it humiliating and degrading to have to go to the fucking ghetto, stand in line with a bunch of people on parole, and piss in a cup.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (wmaTe)

Then fucking move you big whiny baby. I don't know what shit hole you live in but when I have had to take a drug screening I end up being in pretty nice medical facilities and hospitals and not some free clinic around the dregs of society.

Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (z/Ubi)

475 I think I just rubbed a low spot into the screen....

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2017 02:12 PM (1fHj1)

476 Seth Rich's family says Kim Dotcom tried to hack into slain DNC staffer's email to plant fake evidence that he gave documents to Wikileaks

Seth Rich's family says Kim Dotcom tried to hack his Gmail account this week
They said it received a request from Mega, the website Dotcom used to work for
The family believe the hacker was trying to plant evidence to back up his claim that Rich was the source of the DNC hack
Dotcom claims to have proof that the 27-year-old was in contact with WikiLeaks before he was gunned down in July last year
The Rich family have dismissed the claim as a malicious conspiracy theory

... this pretty has the family "jumping the shark" in synchronization

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at May 25, 2017 02:12 PM (e8kgV)

477 Wonderful view!!!

What was the subject matter? It completely slip my mind whist scrolling down to comment

Posted by: Ed gibbon at May 25, 2017 02:12 PM (n4ovC)

478 Try getting a job at 59

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:12 PM (6Ll1u)

479 We can't let "shovegate" distract from #slampocalypse over in Montana

Posted by: corndog at May 25, 2017 02:12 PM (p3eEq)

480 2005 was a vintage year for boobs.

Posted by: MacGruber at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (FEAjO)

481 I got a solid B+ on my drug test.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (IqV8l)

482 ..And I don't even smoke weed. I just find it humiliating and degrading to have to go to the fucking ghetto, stand in line with a bunch of people on parole, and piss in a cup.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:03 PM (wmaTe)

At least our workplace had a first aid office with a bathroom, and that's what we used. What I didn't like was that they'd cut off the water to the sink, I guess so people wouldn't put water in the cup? But that meant you couldn't wash your hands right away even if you got some pee on the outside of the cup. Yuck.

Posted by: stace, so much winning! at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (bwBxJ)

483 We all knew they "courts" would keep the travel ban in place... Doesn't matter how many children get blown up.And I don't want to hear the latest was native born... His Parents weren't and the Family has also been arrested...

Posted by: It's Me donna at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (O2RFr)

484 420 Hadn't seen Jennifer Connelley rocking horse. Made my day.

Back then she was a parody of the Girl Next Door Fantasy, no?
*
*
Parody, hell, she was the *embodiment* of it.

We had a grad student from Brazil here from '03 to '05 who could have been Jennifer's sister. Niiice.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (jTUfG)

485 463 I know the causation/correlation shtick, and I know weed smokers that don't smoke meth, BUT I don't know a single meth user that doesn't also smoke weed.
I have to deal with it in my immediate family every day, so I may know a little bit about the collateral damage drugs cause.

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 02:10 PM (UmSfZ)

Well, I'm sorry you have meth users in your family, but there is zero causation and almost zero correlation between meth use and marijuana use.

Put another way, 99% of marijuana users have never used meth.

Put another other way, 99% of meth users have also used caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, or other drugs.

It's like saying "100% of people convicted of a DUI have driven a car in their lives, so driving cars leads to DUIs."

It's kind of a nonsensical connection.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (wmaTe)

486 Kreplach and NGU, yep (about the judicial coup).

Incomprehensible. Yes, it was early days. Sorry, guys, you have the big jobs now - ACT.

Force SCOTUS to make its choice - would they really go all-in on judicial usurpation of executive power, completely lawless and indefensible? I don't think so.

The pathetic John Roberts, who seems to share a lot of intellectual and character limitations with Comey, would be crying in public, begging his colleagues not to fatally damage the prestige and legitimacy of the courts by upholding an obviously baseless and illegal stunt by lower courts.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 02:14 PM (QDnY+)

487 478 Try getting a job at 59
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:12 PM (6Ll1u)

I'll probably be living on the street, pushing a shopping cart and yelling at the pigeons by then.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 25, 2017 02:14 PM (0mRoj)

488 On a quick skim, 4th Circuit based its ruling solely on Trump's campaign statements, that his EOs violated the Establishment Clause, and weak claims for standing for the named plaintiffs.

If the Nazis had declared themselves a kind of Pagan religion, we'd never have been able to fight them, let alone beat them, per this reasoning.

When the 9th Circuit rules, paging SCOTUS.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 25, 2017 02:14 PM (+7/1f)

489 She must drink many cups of carrot juice a day. Oddly colored stained teeth she has, which turn a muddy orange color the further back you get.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 02:14 PM (2qHjF)

490 We can't let "shovegate" distract from #slampocalypse over in Montana

We can run both... We're versatile....

Posted by: your sycophant press.... at May 25, 2017 02:14 PM (O2RFr)

491 Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2017 02:12 PM (6Ll1u)

The ageism factor stinks. I knew a man who was an engineer who got unemployed at about 56-before he was ready to retire. He finally just dyed his hair and he thinks it helped him secure him a job. My spouse doesn't want to do that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (qES5k)

492 >>>>No, because I'm going to the doctor to get a physical.

It's a little different when my employer makes me do it.

I assume you've never been drug tested? Because if you have, you'll
know what I mean about how degrading it is to be lined up with a bunch
of parolees and have someone standing outside the door screaming at you
to not flush the toilet or wash your hands while you have to pee in to a
cup.

...and the drug test people (where I've gone at least) treat
everyone like a liar and convicted felon. You feel like you're being
marched around by prison guards.

"Stand here. Empty your pockets here. Do this. Show me your ID. I need a second form of ID." etc. etc.

It's like combining jail with the DMV with flying out of O'Hare.
.
.
.Not sure where you are going but when I was a Truck Driver I had to pee in the cup every 30 days and I never had anyone scream at me. Pretty sure some of the other people I saw there were parolees but they didn't get treated any different than I did. My Companies contracted that stuff out and we went to a local lab to "donate" and they sent the results back in a few days to HR.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (le7jz)

493 "So she's going to reprise Sigourney Weaver's role in the Galaxy Quest reboot?
Posted by: Anna Puma"

Milana Vayntrub would be good in that role.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (OD2ni)

494
I once had to take a Breathalyzer test for a job. Aerospace, highest level security stuff. The nurse is like egging me on to blow harder, damnit -- like I was trying to beat the test somehow.

I was like wtf? I never took such a test before in my life. What the hell do I know? So I blew like 0bama on a first date while still 'questioning'.

She looks at the results -- 0.00000000 and said something stupid.

I asked, 'You have people, knowing they're getting a Breathalyzer test in the morning, getting lit up the night before?'

'Yup', she replied.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (HTdUD)

495 Then fucking move you big whiny baby. I don't know what shit hole you live in but when I have had to take a drug screening I end up being in pretty nice medical facilities and hospitals and not some free clinic around the dregs of society.
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (z/Ubi)

Oh, nice.

I actually have moved, and am back in school now and going in to a profession with no drug testing, so my rant is not really about *my* future issues.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (wmaTe)

496 >>I'll probably be living on the street, pushing a shopping cart and yelling at the pigeons by then.

Hey, it's Will!

Posted by: Pigeon at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (pXi0m)

497 484 420 Hadn't seen Jennifer Connelley rocking horse. Made my day.

Back then she was a parody of the Girl Next Door Fantasy, no?
*
*
Parody, hell, she was the *embodiment* of it.

We had a grad student from Brazil here from '03 to '05 who could have been Jennifer's sister. Niiice.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 02:13 PM (jTUfG)

Hairy Arms.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (2qHjF)

498 I don't drink, the toughest drug I take is aspirin for migraines. But I agree, this is not just degrading, its way too intrusive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)

Look at it from an employers perspective:

1) Employee does drugs on his off hours. Fine. You usually end up firing him for not showing to work on time or at all. Trust me, this is the case for around 90% of almost all firings- attendance. This is all well and good you are not firing him based on the drugs, but rather his actions.

2) The other hand is this: the guy is driving a forklift and hurts someone. Now any sort of accident on the job triggers an automatic drug test at anywhere I have ever worked. However, if the guy or gal hurts someone while under the influence, and there is no drug policy with testing in place, the employer is now liable for part of the damages to the person who was hurt- negligence.

3) Even if someone is under the influence and we send him home, if he gets in an accident on the way home, we can be sued for negligence if we do not put him in a cab or a cop car.

4) Drug use has a correlation to problems on the job, not just the ones I mentioned above. Why should a company take on an employee who might cause them liabilities and make them waste the time, effort and money of training, if they are just going to have to fire him or her later?

I am not saying that this is right, I am saying it is completely understandable that companies try to protect themselves, completely outside the war on drugs- because honestly, most companies don't give a crap- they just want to make money or at worst, not lose massive amounts of it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2017 02:16 PM (ycWCI)

499 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (wmaTe)

Taken plenty of piss tests but never experienced the Shawshank story you are telling. Besides I'm immune to humiliation.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:16 PM (czLDv)

500 All the drug screenings I had were at hospitals. It was a bit of a pain, but I didn't have to get them down in some shithole surrounded by felons.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 25, 2017 02:17 PM (ZM2xo)

501 Here is the crux of that 4th Circuit descision...

"The question for this Court, distilled to its essential form, is whether the Constitution, as the Supreme Court declared in ... remains "a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace." And if so, whether it protects Plaintiffs' right to challenge an Executive Order that in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination. Surely the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment yet stands as an untiring sentinel for the protection of one of our most cherished founding principles that government shall not establish any religious orthodoxy, or favor or disfavor one religion over another. Congress granted the President broad power to deny entry to aliens, but that power is not absolute. It cannot go unchecked when, as here, the President wields it through an executive edict that stands to cause irreparable harm to individuals across this nation. Therefore, for the reasons that follow, we affirm in substantial part the district court's issuance of a nationwide preliminary injunction as to Section 2c of the challenged Executive Order."

^^^ Total horseshit, if you ask me.
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (Hnqc1)

And now it is being made precedent in that circuit.

There is a reason that one shuts and tells their supporters to shut up, and then cross your "t"s and dot your "i"s before implementing something.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 25, 2017 02:17 PM (rUIbB)

502 Germany's bizarre worship of the JEF is frightening.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 25, 2017 02:17 PM (luj3F)

503 Congress granted the President broad power to deny entry to aliens, but that power is not absolute. It cannot go unchecked when, as here, the President wields it through an executive edict that stands to cause irreparable harm to individuals across this nation. Therefore, for the reasons that follow, we affirm in substantial part the district court's issuance of a nationwide preliminary injunction as to Section 2c of the challenged Executive Order."

^^^ Total horseshit, if you ask me.
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 25, 2017 02:11 PM (Hnqc1)

That is insulting to horseshit which, after all, has practical uses.

The statutory language is clear. Congress, idiotically, gives the President full and unlimited power in this area. There's no tea leaf reading and no oh oh oh but other people will be haarrrmmmeeedd. Funny, the people who may possibly get nail bombed at a pop concert won't get to sue the ever loving motherfuck out of the judges who issued this ruling. That irreparable harm doesn't count.

This is why all y'all what to put me up against a wall and go shooty (well, one of the many reasons). Because it takes lawyers to dork the statute up the squeakhole like that.

Then again, John Roberts heaved centuries of black letter law on how statutes are construed to save Obamacare so *whateverhands*

*returns to the Mad Libs*

There's something about bears and woods in there, I know there is.

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at May 25, 2017 02:17 PM (mf5HN)

504
ex Prezzy Choom says in Berlin today, "In this world we are living in today we can't live behind walls." Says the shithead who is building a wall around his home in DC.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (493sH)

505 Taken plenty of piss tests but never experienced the Shawshank story you are telling. Besides I'm immune to humiliation.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:16 PM (czLDv)

My various tests were at labs. Both were in inner cities.

I guess it's different if you live outside of a city, but trust me -- everyone I know in that area had to go to these 2 labs for drug tests, and they all had the same experience.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (wmaTe)

506 Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2017 02:16 PM (ycWCI)

THIS^^^

Posted by: IP at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (UmSfZ)

507 > ...and he kept dragging her tits out every chance he could, iirc.

phrasing

Posted by: WaitingForMartel at May 25, 2017 02:19 PM (VpBSr)

508 I just had drug tests at a place that specializes in drug and alcohol tests/ I was the only one doing it at the time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2017 02:19 PM (qES5k)

509 Why are you so hot about this? You want a job, don't do drugs. Is that that difficult?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 25, 2017 02:01 PM (SRKgf)

Frankly, because unless the job does require sobriety for vital health and safety reasons, it is no one's business.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 25, 2017 02:19 PM (ujg0T)

510 "Try getting a job at 59"

Inevitable consequence of a health care "system" where costs are absolutely out of control. Employers want you safely out the door before the age at which those heart bypasses, knee and hip jobs, and costly cancer drugs start showing up.

Costs were out of control before Obamacare. Obamacare itself then did absolutely nothing to reduce costs -- merely shuffled the deck and redistributed costs around to different payors. And now the Beltway GOP's Obamacare Lite similarly does nothing about costs.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 25, 2017 02:19 PM (ujwCG)

511 FWIW, every company I've worked for that has drug tested has used quest diagnostics for drug testing. I don't know if they're a regional company or nationwide, but that's where my horror stories took place.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:20 PM (wmaTe)

512 "Try getting a job at 59"

====

I will. In thirty years. ;-)

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:20 PM (C52a9)

513 Frankly, because unless the job does require sobriety for vital health and safety reasons, it is no one's business.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 25, 2017 02:19 PM (ujg0T)
___________

Oh, you mean you wanted fries with that?

Posted by: Baked McD's Employee at May 25, 2017 02:21 PM (UmSfZ)

514 Serious Cat @ #473, thanks for posting that.

What ludicrous, lawless nonsense. As usual, "courts" just making shit up.

It's not the court's role, when reviewing a clearly lawful executive order, to insert their own baseless delusions and bigotries and judgements about "context" or motive. Period.

By NOT repudiating this sophomoric crap, and not forcing SCOTUS to either embrace the final dissolution of the constitutional system (or more likely, back down by nuking the lower courts), Trump's administration has, in effect, deepened and worsened the problem.

It's similar to the situation with key legislative priorities. Either you force a time of decision, reintroduce politics to politics (decisions, consequences, accountability), or the slide continues - and accelerates.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 02:21 PM (QDnY+)

515 460 You what pisses me off?

The same employers that bitch about dope smoking ,lazy-ass kids will hire 115 dope smoking lazy-ass kids before they even think about giving a 40+ unemployed but qualified, career-changer a shot.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:09 PM (C52a9)

They should hire a street walker to do the interviews and watch on camera for 2 hours. If you don't proposition her for sex or to get high then you get the job.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 02:21 PM (2qHjF)

516 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 25, 2017 02:18 PM (wmaTe)

I live in a small city named Houston.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 25, 2017 02:22 PM (czLDv)

517 nood bomber

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 25, 2017 02:22 PM (C52a9)

518 Well as you can see your mortgage is at a 14.9% rate.. eh... im sorry that's a typo, it should be 4.9%

Posted by: Baked Bank Employee at May 25, 2017 02:22 PM (UmSfZ)

519 Oh, you mean you wanted fries with that?
Posted by: Baked McD's Employee at May 25, 2017 02:21 PM (UmSfZ)

S/he will still get the order more correct than one who can't speak English.

The employers should have to option to hire and fire who they wish and keep them as sober as is necessary for safety depending upon the job, but I can think of whole industries where much of the workforce shows up stoned or tweaked. I was there; I saw it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 25, 2017 02:24 PM (ujg0T)

520 473 Here is the crux of that 4th Circuit descision...

"The question for this Court, distilled to its essential form, is whether the Constitution, as the Supreme Court declared in ... remains "a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace." And if so, whether it protects Plaintiffs' right to challenge an Executive Order that in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination. Surely the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment yet stands as an untiring sentinel for the protection of one of our most cherished founding principles that government shall not establish any religious orthodoxy, or favor or disfavor one religion over another. Congress granted the President broad power to deny entry to aliens, but that power is not absolute. It cannot go unchecked when, as here, the President wields it through an executive edict that stands to cause irreparable harm to individuals across this nation. Therefore, for the reasons that follow, we affirm in substantial part the district court's issuance of a nationwide preliminary injunction as to Section 2c of the challenged Executive Order."

^^^ Total horseshit, if you ask me.
=========

Crimaninny - they are extending the First Amendment to cover non-citizens.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (vg8iE)

521 >>>>FWIW, every company I've worked for that has drug tested has used quest
diagnostics for drug testing. I don't know if they're a regional company
or nationwide, but that's where my horror stories took place.
.
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.They were in new England where I went. Never had a bad time with them except a few times when they didn't open on time and I had to pee really bad waiting for them to unlock the door.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (le7jz)

522 Hairy Arms.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 25, 2017 02:15 PM (2qHjF) ,/i
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I lived in that apartment building in college. How'd you know?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 02:27 PM (jTUfG)

523

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (jTUfG)

524 Aetius is right that it's mostly about ass-covering for liability.

We operated forklifts and cranes, and other toys like the large Hotsy, and one booboo with those can make for a very bad day.

Posted by: stace, so much winning! at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (bwBxJ)

525 we affirm in substantial part the district court's issuance of a nationwide preliminary injunction as to Section 2c of the challenged Executive Order."

That's not a legal opinion, that's a facebook rant by a leftist pajama boy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2017 02:28 PM (39g3+)

526 Jeebus, Hat, your understanding of law and the constitution seem similar to your understanding of politics.

There were no errors or "uncrossed t's" in the EO. It was an utterly mundane, routine exercise of unambiguous executive authority (and the "court" language about "absolute" is a ridiculous distortion - the court's sole authority in this matter is to confirm that the action is within the executive's power, as the MA court did, quickly).

Maybe some more shut-up, and fewer tantrums, from those who don't bother to understand the substance of issues, is what's called for here.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 02:30 PM (QDnY+)

527 Crimaninny - they are extending the First Amendment to cover non-citizens.

It does, but that's not the problem. They're trying to extend US government protection to people in other nations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2017 02:31 PM (39g3+)

528 Jeebus, Hat, your understanding of law and the constitution seem similar to your understanding of politics.

There were no errors or "uncrossed t's" in the EO. It was an utterly mundane, routine exercise of unambiguous executive authority (and the "court" language about "absolute" is a ridiculous distortion - the court's sole authority in this matter is to confirm that the action is within the executive's power, as the MA court did, quickly).

Maybe some more shut-up, and fewer tantrums, from those who don't bother to understand the substance of issues, is what's called for here.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2017 02:30 PM (QDnY+)

They screwed up the first one, which is why they needed the second. That screw up and the statements from the campaign is what led to this.

Trump's amateurishness and glibness aided and abetted those who want to destroy all immigration controls.

The second EO as written seems perfectly Constitutional. But that doesn't mean that the courts will find it to be Constitutional, or lay down precedent like they just did.

It doesn't matter how Constitutional it is... you do not go out of your way to give the other side a chance to shut down not only this, but by precedence all future similar actions. To ignore that is the height of stupidity.

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 25, 2017 02:38 PM (rUIbB)

529 What did they screw up in the first executive order? What, precisely, was unconstitutional and not legal in that order?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2017 02:39 PM (39g3+)

530 323 The problem is that it's crappy work, sometimes intermittent,
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That's exactly it: That farmer says he's offering $22/hr.

Great.

But, it's for what, one or two months? So, $4k to $8k.

Then what?

Then there is this show you might have heard of, Deadliest Catch.
And another, Gold Rush.

These guys work like 5 months a year and somehow have a full year's wages.
And magically, the owners don't really have labor shortages.
And they're still in business.
Employing Americans, too.

Odd.
Posted by: RoyalOil

And the sale of that "season" of work yields enough revenue to pay those wages and keep the business a going concern, too.

Does a strawberry field generate the same revenue?

The harvest times are staggered in places like CA. And there are several growing seasons per year.

Grain harvesters for hire migrate with the work, too. Some will buy a harvester in the mid summer and work their way south to north as crops ripen, then sell the machine in the fall.

Sometimes, you need to go to where the work is. My granddad, during the depression, loaded up wife and 4 kids in a trailer, then hit the road. Carpentry, electrical, and plumbing.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 25, 2017 02:51 PM (di1hb)

531 i don't know abouit cowbells. But those are some melons on the lady in the picture in your post.

Posted by: Melon Inspector at May 25, 2017 03:24 PM (Sda6L)

532 but her elbows said no one ever

Posted by: tmitsss at May 25, 2017 04:27 PM (ZYgGF)

533 Ace, all you gotta do is keep posting photos like the one accompanying this post and I'll believe anything you say.

Posted by: jbspry at May 25, 2017 07:08 PM (+Wvn3)

534 She's JOBLESS!!! surely she can replace two of those millions of defective airbags while sweet smelling on implosion?

Posted by: saf at May 29, 2017 11:29 AM (+zN6H)

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