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Sunday Morning Book Thread 05-28-2017


Library of Sting, London.jpg
Sting's Personal Library, London

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, and would you care to know that the guy in the yellow cap who's wearing those ugly pants is Justin Bieber? Yeah, me, neither.

"Buying books would be a good thing, if one could also buy the time to read them"
--Arthur Schopenhauer


The Universal Library

but according to this very lengthy Atlantic article, Google once planned a project to scan every book in the world:

Google’s secret effort to scan every book in the world, codenamed “Project Ocean,” began in earnest in 2002 when Larry Page and Marissa Mayer sat down in the office together with a 300-page book and a metronome. Page wanted to know how long it would take to scan more than a hundred-million books, so he started with one that was lying around. Using the metronome to keep a steady pace, he and Mayer paged through the book cover-to-cover. It took them 40 minutes.

OK, so the scanning process needed to be improved. And Page managed it, so Google was able to move forward with the project:

By 2004, Google had started scanning. In just over a decade, after making deals with Michigan, Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, the New York Public Library, and dozens of other library systems, the company, outpacing Page’s prediction, had scanned about 25 million books. It cost them an estimated $400 million. It was a feat not just of technology but of logistics.

$400 million is serious coin. So what happened? Legal problems. A bunch of authors filed suit, claiming massive copyright violations:

Instead of asking for anyone’s permission, Google had plundered libraries. This seemed obviously wrong: If you wanted to copy a book, you had to have the right to copy it—you had to have the damn copyright. Letting Google get away with the wholesale copying of every book in America struck them as setting a dangerous precedent, one that might well render their copyrights worthless. An advocacy group called the Authors Guild, and several book authors, filed a class action lawsuit against Google on behalf of everyone with a U.S. copyright interest in a book. (A group of publishers filed their own lawsuit but joined the Authors Guild class action shortly thereafter.)

I suppose it's hard to claim "fair use" when you're copying the entire book.

This piece has lots more about the Google case, and an interesting discussion about the history of the impact of technology on copyright protection - starting with the rolls of music used by player pianos.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

A SLABBERMENT is a sloppy mess.

Usage:

The Republican Party is a SLABBERMENT.
Maxine Waters' hair is a SLABBERMENT.
Ace's knees after a martial arts bout are a SLABBERMENT.


Library of NY Times, 1942.jpg
Library of the New York Times, 1942
Not shown: Walter Duranty's Pulitzer Prize

Pic Note

H/T to The Political Hat who found it in a photographic essay, A Day In The Life Of The New York Times – September 10 1942. Those were the days when it was easier to pretend that the NY Times was an actual newspaper, rather than a left-wing bullhorn. You should go over there and scroll through the other vintage photos, they're quite interesting. Being a radio geek, I especially liked the photo of the radio room. I don't recognize the receiver the op is using, it looks kind of home-brew. Also, I wonder if there are any newspaper employment opportunities today where knowledge of Morse Code is a job requirement?


Well, Dangle My Modifier

"Laughing merrily, the cake was cut."

I've always remembered this example of a dangling something-or-other (participle? participial phrase?) from a lecture in an English class many years ago. To emphasize the point, the teacher displayed a silly drawing of a laughing cake that was being sliced in half.

Here's a list that claims to be The best misplaced and dangling modifiers of all time. Not all of them are good, but there are a couple of gems here:

"With his tail held high, my father led his prize poodle around the arena."
"I saw the dead dog driving down the interstate."

(h/t FenelonSpoke)


Book Sales

Every now and then, your local library, or other liberaries close by, will have a book sale to raise money for this or that. Frequently, you can get great deals on old books. This week, I stumbled on a site, BookSaleFinder.com, that collects information on book sales all over the country and makes it available. Just click on your state on the main page to find out the dates of book sales in your state.


Books By Morons

The fourth installment of moronette author Sgt. Mom's Luna City Series, entitled, appropriately, Luna City IV (The Chronicles of Luna City Book 4), available on Kindle, has now been published in a paperback edition:

Welcome to Luna City, Karnes County, Texas … Population 2,455, counting a new arrival from Alaska. Change is in the wind, what with plans for an expansion of the neighboring Mills Farm spa and resort by the corporation which owns it. Meanwhile, a catastrophic fire has forever altered the appearance of the Age of Aquarius Camp Ground and Goat farm, where former celebrity chef, Richard Astor-Hall (previously known as Rich Hall, the Bad Boy Chef) – still on the run from his former life – is wrestling with his commitment to the community as a member of the Luna City Volunteer Fire Department… and his attraction to Miss Kate Heisel, the star reporter for the Karnesville Daily Beacon. Drastic changes are in store for many other Lunaites as well, in this fourth installation of the Chronicles of Luna City.


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New moron author Patrick Leigh has just published his first book, a flintlock fantasy novella entitled Perdita Nightshade: An Errand in Kraken Cove:

When you’re a Half-Orc living in a world of prejudiced Humans, Elves, and other beings, everyday tasks like shopping can become immense challenges... and Perdita Nightshade always did love a challenge. But she’s not just another brooding Half-Orc with a chip on her shoulder. She’s learned what it takes to overcome others’ preconceptions about people like her. Perdita’s got a rapier wit, impeccable fashion sense, a whole repertoire of smiles, and good, old-fashioned sex appeal at her disposal. And fortunately, you can find just about everything in Kraken Cove, a prosperous harbor on the frontier continent of Arcadia. Unfortunately, you can find all kinds of trouble. Perdita’s no stranger to trouble, though, and she can give as good as she gets, using her arsenal of guns, knives, swords, and even a few spells.

Join Perdita Nightshade in this flint-lock fantasy as she outfits herself and executes a personal vendetta – with potentially world-changing ramifications. In the process, she will make new friends, encounter ruthless enemies, and even draw the attention of a few divine entities.

Kindle price $2.99.


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Alec Lloyd, another new moron author e-mailed me yesterday to tell me:

I've got a few books the 'rons may be interested in. I just published "Rise of the Alliance," the second book in a four-book series. The first book is "A Man of Destiny." If I can get the gizmos to work properly, "A Man of Destiny" will be a FREE DOWNLOAD starting on Thursday to help folks catch up.

A Man of Destiny is the first of a projected four book science fiction adventure series:

While the leaders of four thousand settled planets bicker amongst themselves, the frontier worlds threaten open rebellion. The only thing the politicians can agree on is that Maxim Darius must never become Premier. With the help of a renegade knight and a smuggler-turned-mercenary, Darius will stun them all.

The sequel is Rise of the Alliance.

Lloyd has written another novel, Scorpion's Pass: A Tale of Love and War, that looks interesting:

Miss Elizabeth Woodley had never thought seriously about marriage until the dashing Marine Captain Cedric Forrester swept her off her feet. No sooner had she caught her breath than the powerful Lord William Higsby made his own offer for her hand. Now Elizabeth must make a fateful decision that will determine her happiness and the status of her family as well. Little does she know that the fate of all three will be determined in the bloody valley known as Scorpion's Pass. A.H. Lloyd's imaginative second novel, Scorpion's Pass sets the society and culture of Regency England against a backdrop of desert-roaming warships and mysterious not-quite-human savages. A blend of the historical and fantastic, Scorpion's Pass is a tale of love and honor in a time of war.

The Kindle edition is $2.99.


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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM




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1 Hola Book-wookies!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (NT3RT)

2 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (Ot7+c)

3 Good morning.

Posted by: HH at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (DrCtv)

4 would you care to know that the guy in the yellow cap who's wearing those awesome pants is Justin Bieber?


FIFY!

Posted by: Pajama Boy at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (BO/km)

5 Re-read of the David Eddings Belgariad series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

6 I see Sting likes his books in matching sets.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (mpXpK)

7 Good morning Hordelings.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (tr2D7)

8 Good Sunday morning, horde! It's my favorite day of the week!

Lovely library. Full of my favorite things: wood, stone, steel, and books.

I'm reading On the Brink by Jay Winik, and want to thank you again, whichever one of you recommended it to me. The end of the Cold War and transition from Carter to Reagan has the potential to be dry reading material, if written by the wrong person. But Winik makes it read like a novel, and I'm engrossed.

I was 18 in 1980 (first presidential election, voted third party, and went to college in the fall to be radicalized). My perspective on things then was through a lefty lens, so I'm getting a re-education, for lack of a better word.

Posted by: April at May 28, 2017 09:05 AM (e8PP1)

9 In my hands is Atlas Obscura by Joshua Foer, Dylan Thuras, and Ella Morton. If you're planning a trip and are a fan of roadside attractions and oddities, this is your guide.

I learned that our own National Cathedral in D.C. has a Darth Vader gargoyle on the northwest tower:

https://cathedral.org/what-to-see/exterior/vader/

And here are the other gargoyles:

http://www.dcmemorials.com/Groups_NationalCathedralGargoyles_All.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:05 AM (NT3RT)

10 Good morning, one and all, and many thanks to OM for putting up this lovely thread every week. I would like to point out how oppressive Sting's library is, what with all that dark wood paneling. He needs to go to re-education camp immediately.

I think I have started Martin Gilber's history of the Holocaust but it's bedtime reading which I think is a bad idea for comprehension. Maybe I'll read that on the computer screen so I'm sitting up.

And I started a book called "Violence: Reflections on a National Epidemic." It's by a prison psychiatrist not named Theodore Dalrymple and so it seems stupid. I got as far as page 42 and I think it's going in the discard pile because of the worst example of post hoc ergo propter hoc reasoning that I can recall seeing:

"If anything, death is a promise of peace, which makes it understandable that executions and capital punishment encourage more murders than they deter, as judged by the fact that the only Western industrialized nation that still retains the death penalty - the United States - also has a murder rate many times higher than do those nations which have sufficient reverence for life to have abolished punishment by death."

Apparently, the doc thinks European countries like Belgium, which is currently very busy murdering those with entirely treatable mental health problems and babies ex utero with health problems, etc., etc., show more reverence for life than the US.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (STkEV)

11 I see Sting likes his books in matching sets.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (mpXpK)


Heh. It does have that law library look and feel to it, doesn't it?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (WcAaY)

12 Good morning my fellow Book Threadists and welcome to Memorial Day weekend.

Just a reminder that Tolkien's "Beren and Luthien" goes on sale on June 1. I'm looking forward to it and intend to take the time to appreciate the poetry for its own sake and how the story fits into the Middle Earth history. I assume the story was personally important to Tolkien as he worked on it for most of his adult life and put the names on his and his wife's grave markers.

For those who enjoy the Lumby series, "Lost in Lumby" went on sale as an ebook today. This is number 6 in the series and the first new one in several years. I really enjoy the pleasant, sometimes poignant, reading these books provide and I'll start reading it tonight.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (V+03K)

13 In honor of Memorial day want to bring up1 book to recommend. Was wagching Andersonville movie last night and reminded me of John McElroy's book A Story of Rebel Prisons. I have a original copy of this book but see it can be gotten on Kindle for $0.99. McElroy was a prisoner first held in Libby prison in Richmond then transfered to Andersonville then to a prison in SC.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (Ot7+c)

14 On the Kindle, I read The Red Hill by David Penny. This is the first in the Thomas Berrington historical mystery series. Thomas is an English physician in Moorish Spain in 1482. He has a mysterious past, but his numerous body scars shows that he has seen combat. The Sultan asks Thomas to investigate a series of brutal murders, including that of one of his wives. Thomas' sidekick is Jorge, an eunuch of the harem, and together they become involved in palace politics and intrigue as they try to find the murderer before he strikes again. As a bonus, this very good mystery is set in an interesting time and place.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (go62B)

15 Every now and then, your local library, or other liberaries close by,
will have a book sale to raise money for this or that. Frequently, you
can get great deals on old books. This week, I stumbled on a site, BookSaleFinder.com,
that collects information on book sales all over the country and makes
it available. Just click on your state on the main page to find out the
dates of book sales in your state.



My wife and I are in a group called "The Friends of the Library" for our local library. We get advance notice of book sales.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (mpXpK)

16 Looks like Justin made potty in those pants.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

17 A SLABBERMENT is a sloppy mess.


Strangely enough, SLAB-O-MINT is the newest Life Savers flavor.

It's....it's not very good.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:08 AM (9q7Dl)

18 Every breath you take.
Every move you make.
Every bond you break, every step you take, I'll be watching you...
Every single day and every word you say.
Every game you play, every night you stay, I'll be watching you.

Oh, can't you see? You belong to me.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 09:10 AM (vRcUp)

19 Where is the Kama Sutra nook in Sting's library?

And who are the two busts aside a scowling Beethoven? Chopin and ...?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:10 AM (NT3RT)

20 Finished 'Band of Brothers' this week. Like most similar accounts, it's difficult to come away from it without feeling like a lesser man.

Started on 'Lucky Bastard'.

Yesterday's Movie Thread mentioning 'Moby Dick' reminded me, from time-to-time crossword puzzles sometimes give the clue for a four-letter word 'Melville novel'. The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 09:11 AM (ZO497)

21 The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 09:11 AM (ZO497)
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I have. I like "Omoo" and "Typee" even better than his magnum dickus.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:13 AM (NT3RT)

22
Just finished reading the eARC for Correia's latest Monster Hunter International book. Mixed feelings. Has some cool new characters and situations, but it's not really the fun romp with automatic weapons through unimaginable horror that we've come to expect from an MHI novel. Plenty of automatic weapons (it's Correia, after all), but the "fun" part is kind of restrained.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 28, 2017 09:14 AM (quw2O)

23 I'm truly impressed with the number of Moron Authors--impressive you lot are.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 28, 2017 09:15 AM (nBr1j)

24 Slabberment is a great word that I never saw before. I always get a great education from the book thread. Thanks, OMuse.

I went to the library yesterday and with great determination steered myself away from the book sale that was going on. This one was for educators and normally I would have been all over that like white on rice, but I reminded myself that my home educating days are almost over.

I read The 39 Steps and am halfway through the sequel, Greenmantle, as recommended by someone here. It's very exciting and I need to step it up because I've got to know soon what happens.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (hrAi9)

25 Good morning, Horde!

Just finished "Andy And Don", a biography/history of the friendship between Andy Griffith and Don Knotts, before, during, and after "The Andy Griffith Show".

Starting "1776" by David McCullough, now that it finally showed up at my local library.

On my Kindle app is "Yesterday's Gone", a weird, creepy, post-apocalypse tale by Sean Platt and David Wright. Drags in parts, but the writers do well in painting the scenery in my mind's eye.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (rJUlF)

26 The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


No, but I liked Billy Budd. Kind of like a proto-Gianforte.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (vRcUp)

27 I have finished book VIII of Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II covering his imprisonment by his father. ( show and tell time)
http://blog.andie.org.uk/2013/12/festung-kustrin-lost-fortress.html
He was kept in solitary confinement till he repented from his ways. The building hewas kept in fortress Custrin is gone but the ruins as it was a major battleground in WWII. It also covered his sister Wilhelmine's wedding.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:18 AM (Ot7+c)

28 Come Sunday morning, I'm usually quite the slabberment.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (Tyii7)

29 In my hands is Atlas Obscura by Joshua Foer, Dylan Thuras, and Ella Morton.

Hi, Eris!

Their website is full of great reading, too.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (rJUlF)

30 Since this is a book and writing thread, this Calvin and Hobbes cartoon seems appropriate:

http://tinyurl.com/ya5aqyay

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (gwPgz)

31 "Every now and then, your local library, or other liberaries close by, will have a book sale to raise money for this or that."

Ok so the book I am reading now is from one of those book sales. The "Cassel Dictionary of Superstitions". This is from the entry on "Left Side":

"It is almost universally recognized that the left (Latin, sinister) side is associated with evil and ill luck. Soothsayers in the ancient world identified the left as the abode of evil and ever since then it has been linked with witchcraft, the devil, and malevolent spirits"


I think that about says it all, doesn't it?

Posted by: Pajama Boy at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (BO/km)

32
Sting's Library looks like it is a Potemkin Library-

meant to impress visitors but never used for reading.

Well, except for maybe the red volume set at the upper right corner of the shelving.

It appears to be a rare complete set of the Galahad "Scrummy Breakfast" Finefeather Mysteries -

including the ultra-rare "The Mystery of the Crumbly Crumpet" and "Whose Beans are These?".

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (9q7Dl)

33 Frap. Off silly sock.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (BO/km)

34 Now reading Ian Mortimer's latest "A Time-Traveler's Guide", this one for Restoration England. The previous ones on Medieval England and Elizabethan England are excellent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 28, 2017 09:21 AM (pQQ6D)

35 Thanks for those NY Times photos from 1942. Might have been the last time they were a decent newspaper. Love the radio gear and the fact that it was a major resource for the paper. I was surprised they still used a sounder in the radio room. I always think of them in use in the 1800s. The gear all looked commercial to me but I'm not sure.

Also, I'll bet the fumes from all that mimeograph fluid made for some interesting reactions. The photos dealing with composing and photography are fascinating.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (V+03K)

36 Apparently, the doc thinks European countries like
Belgium, which is currently very busy murdering those with entirely
treatable mental health problems and babies ex utero with health
problems, etc., etc., show more reverence for life than the US.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (STkEV)
Not to mention that the US's murder rate isn't any higher than most European countries'; it only looks that way because the statistics are compiled differently. The US counts number of actual murders. Countries like the UK only count the number of murder convictions.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

37 25 Just finished "Andy And Don", a biography/history of
the friendship between Andy Griffith and Don Knotts, before, during,
and after "The Andy Griffith Show".



Starting "1776" by David McCullough, now that it finally showed up at my local library.



On my Kindle app is "Yesterday's Gone", a weird, creepy,
post-apocalypse tale by Sean Platt and David Wright. Drags in parts,
but the writers do well in painting the scenery in my mind's eye.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (rJUlF)

Andy Griffith met Don Knotts when they were doing the Broadway play No Time For Sargents (which was later made into a movie).

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (mpXpK)

38 Playing devil's advocate,until the scanned book is available to the public or shared beyond google, I think scanning would be okay. I'm glad someone is doing it for preservation sake.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (IDPbH)

39 Thanks for the linkage, OM!
My daughter, who is my co-author on Luna City, is returning from California in August (she's been there since February - a matter to do with the extended family) and we'll be working market events at the end of the year ... and hopefully plotting the next Luna City installment. I'd like to bring it out next year at this time.

Oh - and on Saturday, June 10th, there will be a lot of us independent Texas authors participating in the Wimberley Book Festival, at the community center in beautiful downtown Wimberley. Stop on by, if you are in the neighborhood! (I'll be easy to spot - wearing period garb and a totally flamboyant hat.)

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (xnmPy)

40 "And here are the other gargoyles: "

I don't see Pelosi in there.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (BO/km)

41 Love that item about dangling modifiers. I wonder if there is a contest to see who can come up with the funniest ones. Sort of like the annual Bulwer-Lytton competition. Or maybe Tom Swifties.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:25 AM (V+03K)

42 Now reading Ian Mortimer's latest "A Time-Traveler's
Guide", this one for Restoration England. The previous ones on
Medieval England and Elizabethan England are excellent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 28, 2017 09:21 AM (pQQ6D)

Ooo, I have to add that to my list. I didn't even know he'd put out another one of that series.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 09:25 AM (26lkV)

43 Thanks for that book sale finer link!

I went to NYC yesterday to check out Fleet Week. After touring a few ships, I went down to The Strand & picked up a few books. I got the collected horror stories of Robert E. Howard - illustrated, too!; Jane's World Armoured Fighting Vehicles; and a one volume encyclopedia of post war weapons systems, everything from submachine guns to submarines.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 09:25 AM (ANIFC)

44 Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (9q7Dl)

Sting was a former History teacher before he became Sting.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (IDPbH)

45 Just finished "Andy And Don", a biography/history of the friendship between Andy Griffith and Don Knotts, before, during, and after "The Andy Griffith Show".

...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread


I once thought of this really lame pun:

Q: What did Barney Fife's parents say 9 months before his conception?

A: Time to make the Don Knotts.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (vRcUp)

46 I don't see Pelosi in there.
Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (BO/km)
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Here she is!

http://www.dcmemorials.com/index_indiv0002771.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:28 AM (NT3RT)

47 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (vRcUp)

Good one but it should be 'at time of conception'

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:29 AM (IDPbH)

48 I finished "The Mystery of Lewis Carroll" by Jenny Worth. It's a good biography of the writer and she makes her points based on actual records and accounts, avoiding the BS Freudian analysis of Carroll that has been so prevalent in the 20th century. It's a nice change from the 'is he a pervert' approach too many others have taken.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:29 AM (V+03K)

49 Sting wrote the Dire Straits hit, Money for Nothing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:30 AM (vRcUp)

50 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (mpXpK)
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No Time For Sergeants has always been one of my favorites.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 09:33 AM (Sfs6o)

51 Good one but it should be 'at time of conception'

Posted by: Jack Sock


Gah. I need to stop sniffing this Elmers.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:33 AM (vRcUp)

52 You all should take a look at the vintage NYT photos. It took a hell of a lot of big iron to get that rag out back in the day. And they had actual foreign correspondents!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (NT3RT)

53 Andy Griffith met Don Knotts when they were doing the Broadway play No Time For Sargents (which was later made into a movie).
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (mpXpK)


That's covered in the book. Don was trying out for the play. Andy recognized his voice from a radio western that Don was on, where he played a Gabby Hayes type. Andy would listen to that show while he drove around the South on the comedy circuit, and he was a huge fan.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (rJUlF)

54 Skip, Andersonville is about 65 miles from here. I've been down there on Memorial Day with the Scouts several times.

It's a very nice site with an excellent POW museum. Lots of artifacts from POW camps all over. Letters, maps, pictures, hand made things like cooking utensils, radios, things like that. Definitely worth the visit.

A book you may find interesting is the "History of Andersonville Prison" by Ovid Futch. Some people and places mentioned in that book are very closely related to my family

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (BO/km)

55 "No Time For Sergeants has always been one of my favorites"

Seconded. Protogomer.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:36 AM (BO/km)

56 52 You all should take a look at the vintage NYT photos. It took a hell of a lot of big iron to get that rag out back in the day. And they had actual foreign correspondents!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (NT3RT)

We still do. We have reporters in Texas, and Mississippi, and...

Posted by: New York Times at May 28, 2017 09:36 AM (ANIFC)

57 50 No Time For Sergeants has always been one of my favorites.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 09:33 AM (Sfs6o)


Yeah, I always liked it too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

58 "Here she is!"


Ah. I missed that. Why is she holding a spatula?

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (BO/km)

59 My class took a tour of the Cincinnati Enquirer building when I was a kid in the mid-60s. That was fun. I'm sure the technology in use was closer to 1942 than it was to today.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (sdi6R)

60 NTFS was on the TMC last night. Reminded me of Forest Gump in that he always came out smelling like a rose in spite of himself.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (IDPbH)

61 Good morning 'rons and 'ettes of the book.

Glad to see April is enjoying the superb narrative style of Jay Winik, an author recommended to me by another member of the Horde. I haven't read the one she's immersed in but read The Great Upheaval and 1944, the latter of which pointed out the horrendous health of Saint Delano and how he thought he was being so clever dealing with Stalin, insulting Churchill in the bargain, but was really getting his gimp ass clobbered. The Great Upheaval is simply one of the best history books I've ever read and I'm very grateful to whoever here recommended it.

Am getting close to the end of The Commodore, book 17 of the Aubrey/Maturin series and quite bluntly one of the greatest literary examinations of friendship between two very different people. This book deals with attacks against the slave trade in central Africa and the horrendous conditions on the captured ships are described in appalling detail. It also illustrates the steps that Jack takes to accommodate Stephen's desires to explore the local flora and fauna while not endangering the mission (and being bemused that after being on a ship for years at a time still doesn't have a feel for when tides change) I'll be sad at the end of this magnificent series.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2017 09:41 AM (y7DUB)

62 Yesterday's Movie Thread mentioning 'Moby Dick' reminded me, from time-to-time crossword puzzles sometimes give the clue for a four-letter word 'Melville novel'. The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 09:11 AM (ZO497


Never read it, but Mrs. Muse likes to do the NY Times crosswords and 'Omoo' gets used quite a lot.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:42 AM (WcAaY)

63 Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (9q7Dl)

Sting was a former History teacher before he became Sting.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (IDPbH)


Eh. I could be wrong, but that looks exactly, exactly, like what you get when your Interior Designer-

needs to fill space left by empty book shelves.

They go down to the used book and secondhand stores and pick up old bound volume sets and single leather or faux leather volumes

because the can match things up and control the look, spacing, and symmetry.

It looks pretty, yo!

As we've seen with fellow morons, real home libraries are much more idiosyncratic affairs with lots of variation.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:43 AM (9q7Dl)

64 Until recently I did not know there was a competing classification system to the Dewey decimal system. The Library of Congress classification system. Maybe because I didn't spend much time in research libraries.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:43 AM (IDPbH)

65 Eh. I could be wrong, but that looks exactly, exactly, like what you get when your Interior Designer-

needs to fill space left by empty book shelves.

They go down to the used book and secondhand stores and pick up old bound volume sets and single leather or faux leather volumes

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My thoughts exactly. I used to sell rare books, and many leather bound sets were sold to decorators for that purpose.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 09:45 AM (ANIFC)

66 Google is evil and is a front for one or more Government agencies (so is Walmart),

That said Google runs the best search site and if you are looking for a lesser quote you are unlikely to find it if Google hasn't scanned the book.

Authors are funny. Most of their literary children are pretty homely.

So far "Edison's Conquest of Mars" has been a retro blast. Lots of tell not show. But the ideas and the retro are powerful. Testing of the disintegration device is historical Edison. Similar shocking to current readers as The Murders in the Rue Morgue.

Valentine Michael Smith removed unwanted items in a way that almost appears the same as the device. Dis-integrator leaves a cloud of something? Both are (fictionally) capable of removing garments.

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:46 AM (HGnpK)

67 I really enjoy reading headlines that read "Obama Donor Judge" and "Soros backed media outlet"
or "Obama appointee" "former Clinton appointee" or "Clnton campaign worker." We have point out the agenda every single time.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (11H2y)

68 I read The 39 Steps and am halfway through the sequel, Greenmantle, as recommended by someone here. It's very exciting and I need to step it up because I've got to know soon what happens.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (hrAi9)


BBC-TV showed a new adaptation in 2008, which, if you ever get the opportunity to watch, you should give it a pass. It starts out promisingly enough, very exciting, the period sets look great, and then all of a sudden a KAF shows up who follows Hannay around gets him out of all of the jams he gets into. Because grrl power.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (WcAaY)

69 Slabberment: That feeling you get when you post a thoughtful and insightful response to Vic on the EMT and then realize that you've been enstompened by the Book Thread.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (Xluzf)

70 Dangling the modifier around AOSHQ is primarily discussing carnal knowledge of a simian

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (ybMGh)

71 The movie I was watching (Andersonville) seemed very accurate. Of the two books I read in fact were so close I thought they were the same book but were not but both written by former inmates.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (Ot7+c)

72 Great book thread, OM!

I just finished "Last of the Mulvaneys" by Joyce Carol Oates. Published in 1996. Very readable, with a good ending.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 28, 2017 09:48 AM (TdMsT)

73 Mrs. Muse likes to do the NY Times crosswords and 'Omoo' gets used quite a lot.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:42 AM (WcAaY)

Do they still use "Ott," and "Alou?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2017 09:49 AM (rF0hx)

74 . The US counts number of actual murders. Countries like the UK only count the number of murder convictions.


Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

That would mean the Chicago has hardly any murders...The mayor should point this out to everyone.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 09:50 AM (1ThGZ)

75 Here she is!

http://www.dcmemorials.com/index_indiv0002771.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Oooh, the NatCat. Is the Episcopal Church defunct yet?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:50 AM (vRcUp)

76 I thumbed through "Microshelters" about those teeny tiny houses so popular recently. I was looking for ideas for storage and there wasn't a lot about it. It did convince me that these itty bitty abodes are only for small, young, and very agile people. Those of us the size of an overweight NFL offensive tackle are out of luck. I would be better off in a double wide trailer.

I actually like the idea of cottages. They can be cozy and comfortable for specific purposes (fishing and hunting) or to concentrate on a function (writing, painting, reading, even reloading). Thomas Jefferson had a beautiful one at Monticello. But for permanent housing, forget it.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:51 AM (V+03K)

77 Halfway through Jeff Shaara's The Frozen Hours about the Korean War. Quite good so far but as one who has read just about everything he has authored, I'm feeling a little burned out. I think that often happens with prolific writers - they can become predictable. Two observations I've come away with so far are how absolutely brutal the winter of 1950 was (let alone the carnage) for the men, particularly at Chosin. The other has been MacArthur's apparently inexplicably gross mismanagement of the conflict. This is of course the author's interpretation but as the reader, it really makes your blood boil. In any event, I would certainly recommend it based on the first half of the work.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2017 09:52 AM (Tyii7)

78 Moby Dick and Captain Ahab just got off on the wrong foot.

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:52 AM (HGnpK)

79 JTB, I am also pretty sure those tiny house aficionados cannot have been from large families. Anyone who grew up with multiple siblings must surely crave space.

Posted by: April at May 28, 2017 09:55 AM (e8PP1)

80 Just finished Babylon's Ashes (The Expanse book 6). Liked it. The bad guy is such an asshole that the early characterization put me in a foul mood too soon though.

Posted by: DaveA at May 28, 2017 09:55 AM (FhXTo)

81 >>he and Mayer paged through the book cover-to-cover. It took them 40 minutes.

There have been better ways to scan for a long time. I worked on some of them in the 80s.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (wwL6Q)

82 Andersonville, There is another book about the federal POW camp in Elmira, NY during the civil war. Portals to Hell, By Lonnie R. Speer, Andersonville wasn't the only hell, during the civil war.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (1ThGZ)

83 73 ... "Do they still use "Ott," and "Alou?"
CBD, I think it is a crossword puzzle law that those two have to be used every second or third puzzle. Along with actor "Esai" Morales, whoever the hell he is. It might be in Article 10 of the Constitution.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:57 AM (V+03K)

84 BBC-TV showed a new adaptation in 2008, which, if you ever get the opportunity to watch, you should give it a pass. It starts out promisingly enough, very exciting, the period sets look great, and then all of a sudden a KAF shows up who follows Hannay around gets him out of all of the jams he gets into. Because grrl power.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (WcAaY)
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I think I saw that. Did it have a handsome blond guy as Hannay? I was rather miffed by that girl too and I hadn't read the book yet, although I had seen the Hitchcock movie.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 09:57 AM (sBOL1)

85 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell; it is in the Osprey Publishing "Combat" series. I have mixed feelings about this book. It is actually about the three major battles of Edward III during the early part of the Hundred Years War in France which I found informative but I was expecting more evaluation of the relative merits of the longbow compared to the crossbow based on the title; the book took a different tact and compared differences between the doctrines of the French and English armies. I also found the author's use of extensive quotations of modern historians annoying since it became obvious he was doing it to pad his word-count since most of quotations could have been paraphrased quite succinctly; on the other hand, the quotations of the contemporary chronicallers contributed to my understanding of events.

The artwork by Peter Dennis is well-done and most of the contemporary illustrations were fascinating. I'm going to give it a rating of 3.75 out of 5.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (5Yee7)

86 36, right wing yankee, "Countries like the UK only count the number of murder convictions."

I did not know that. I knew that the rest of the world counts infant mortality differently, which makes us look barbarous instead of infinitely more virtuous, but I didn't know about murder rates.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (STkEV)

87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)

88 Since the election, when the left doubled down on their definition of the right as "Untouchables," I find myself turning more to lighthearted escapist literature.

I'm currently reading "My Italian Bulldozer," by Alexander McCall Smith. Very lighthearted and just as silly as you might imagine.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (TdMsT)

89 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell;

That's when the fight started.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (oVJmc)

90 Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2017 09:52 AM (Tyii7

MacArthur was Commander for less than a year in a conflict that began with a surprise attack. Also Inchon was part of that year. MacArthur had his haters and critics before Korea so as you indicated, you must consider who is writing the history.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (IDPbH)

91 For some reason poetry has been very appealing to me lately so I've been dipping into "A Treasury of Classic Poetry". It's the fancy hardcover edition sold by Barnes and Noble. There is a nice selection to thumb through and the physical book is very nice to hold and read. It's a pleasant way to reintroduce myself to poems and poets I haven't read in many decades. And I've learned to have a copy of Shakespeare's sonnets and the complete works of Tennyson always close by to slake the occasional poetic urges.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (V+03K)

92 Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (5Yee7)

Crossbow v. longbow, around this crowd? Now you've done it.

*braces for the outbreak of WWIII*

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (26lkV)

93 "inexplicably gross mismanagement"
MacArthur was not good at all aspects of war.

"was an impossible position for a man of honor"
MacArthur had too much honor for his troops own good.
https://tinyurl.com/bdx6znx

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 10:01 AM (HGnpK)

94 I'm not casting doubt on the statement -- but I know anyone I tell about it would demand evidence because it's so astonishing. Does anyone have a source for the difference in how murders/murder convictions are counted and reported?

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 28, 2017 10:01 AM (OQYcM)

95 82
Andersonville, There is another book about the federal POW camp in
Elmira, NY during the civil war. Portals to Hell, By Lonnie R. Speer,
Andersonville wasn't the only hell, during the civil war.



Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (1ThGZ)

I had always read that the one in Chicago was just as bad as Andersonville, but you never hear about it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:02 AM (mpXpK)

96 87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)
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Me either. Got to be some left-wing commie pinko influence there somewhere. I accidentally saw the beginning of one of those shows recently - and I'd like to know how many smiling couples are still living in tiny houses after a year.

And why not just live on a boat?

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:02 AM (Sfs6o)

97 I found a first edition hardcover of "The Great Upheaval" in a bargain bin at the supermarket, of all places. It must have been remaindered, as there was a black mark across the page edges at the bottom.

I had never heard of the book or the author, but I flipped through it quickly and immediately put it in my cart. The store periodically has bargain book bins, and they are almost all cookbooks, diet books, and popular novels. I have no idea how that one ended up there. What a find.

I still haven't gotten around to reading it, alas.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (sdi6R)

98 This thread is so classy I think I'll need to upgrade to long pants and collared shirt, possibly with a neck tie.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (nBr1j)

99 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.

Me either. I know guys with deer blinds that are bigger.

Posted by: no good deed at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (hJamr)

100 Just another thumbs up for News of the World. Recommended here in the book thread by several people and it is a wonderful book. It will bring a smile to your face and quick read. Don't get thrown off by the author not using quotation marks for the characters when they speak, it works to the book's advantage. Highly recommended the book.

Posted by: RGallegos at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (Vf90p)

101 94 I'm not casting doubt on the statement -- but I know anyone I tell about it would demand evidence because it's so astonishing. Does anyone have a source for the difference in how murders/murder convictions are counted and reported?
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 28, 2017 10:01 AM (OQYcM)

I don't know if it is accurate but I know that allegation is similar to the fact on how Europe reports its infant mortality rates.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (IDPbH)

102 I see Sting likes his books in matching sets.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (mpXpK)


I noticed that, too; while beautiful, the library had the feel of place where books had been purchased by the linear foot rather than for their content.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (5Yee7)

103 Book thread!

Sorry I haven't been online lately...hope to do better

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (hMwEB)

104 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell

Little early on a Sunday morning to start a fight, isn't it?

Posted by: April at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (e8PP1)

105 Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (STkEV)

http://rboatright.blogspot.com/2013/03/ comparing-england-or-uk-murder-rates.html

This article has a few good links to the UK Home Office, and details their method of compiling statistics. There is math, alas, but it's interesting math.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (26lkV)

106 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)


It's all part of the grand Third Worldization of the West.

Why should you have and nice big house and consume all of those World resources that belong to all of humanity when some guy in Africa sleeps in a tiny hut?

Same with cockroaches as food, which the Left keeps pushing.

Same with destroying the suburbs and cramming everyone into mega-apartment builds.

Same with constant push for public transportation that almost nobody wants or uses.


Tiny Houses are voluntary self-Third Worldization by numbskulls disguised as virtue signaling.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (9q7Dl)

107 I would need two tiny houses: One to live in, and one to keep my stuff.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (sdi6R)

108 "Buy the time to read them" is why I love Text to Speech. I also have the historical defense that both monasteries and mid/upper class homes made the practice of having one person read while others worked on projects and listened.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (sEDyY)

109 102 I noticed that, too; while beautiful, the library
had the feel of place where books had been purchased by the linear foot
rather than for their content.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (5Yee7)


I figured they were just decorations.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (mpXpK)

110 I think I'm going to have another Great Upheaval ... into the toilet.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (vRcUp)

111 Barnes and Noble is having a sale on a number of their classic collectible books. These are the ones that usually sell for around twenty buck and they are half off. I have several of them and they really are nicely bound editions. The Treasury of Classic Poetry I mentioned above is one of these. It applies to mail order and in-store. The sale ends tomorrow.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (V+03K)

112 Any Hordelings in Birmingham, Alabama? Have you visited the Museum of Fond Memories at Reed Books?

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/museum-of-fond-memories-at-reed-books

When Jim Reed’s growing collection of books and random objects started taking over his family’s house, he knew there was only one thing to do. He set up a bookstore, in 1980.

There's a little used book store on my main street that I bet had just such a start. The owner can be seen sitting at the register reading.

It would be like me opening a book store in my living room, except I reserve the right to open the shop in my robe and slippers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:08 AM (NT3RT)

113 Living in a tiny house is probably cheaper, but I couldn't stand to be crammed in like that. It probably works best for people who work long hours and only come home to sleep. And who don't have any kids.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:09 AM (26lkV)

114
Sting was a former History teacher before he became Sting.


This explains the sound of History repeating...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 28, 2017 10:09 AM (oVJmc)

115 Back in the old days, tiny houses were just called sheds.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 28, 2017 10:09 AM (fHnbd)

116 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell; it is in the Osprey Publishing "Combat" series. I have mixed feelings about this book.

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Anyone here read it & really like it? We could have a longbows versus crossbows fight about Longbowman versus Crossbowman!

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (ANIFC)

117 "Crossbow v. longbow, around this crowd? Now you've done it.

*braces for the outbreak of WWIII*"

Actually, I prefer long range artillery and naval bombardment. But then I'm still learning to shoot any kind of bow.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (V+03K)

118 111 Barnes and Noble is having a sale on a number of their classic collectible books. These are the ones that usually sell for around twenty buck and they are half off. I have several of them and they really are nicely bound editions. The Treasury of Classic Poetry I mentioned above is one of these. It applies to mail order and in-store. The sale ends tomorrow.
Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (V+03K)

Members also have a Memorial Day coupon code. I plan on getting one today.

Of course it's the bound collection of Star Wars novels.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:12 AM (ANIFC)

119 Crossbows are for pimps.

Posted by: Henry V at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (+GtGJ)

120 I lived in a 300 sq foot apartment in NYC. Will never live in something that small again.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (IDPbH)

121 I can kinda see Tiny Houses as the modern variation of the old Mother-in-law rooms over the garage.

If your backyard is big enough.

That might be okay for an aged parent who needs some help, but is still independent.

That gives everybody their own space.

Otherwise, I can't see Tiny Houses as being anything more than an affectation or possibly a getaway cabin for writing and painting.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (9q7Dl)

122 So Sting has a book museum.

That is the impression given from how well the specimens are mounted and displayed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (d4e3K)

123 Re: tiny houses.

Our house is arguably too big for just my wife and me. But I like/need/love my office/library. My wife needs personal office space and or crafting space. We like to have space for the granddaughters when they come over. And we do occasionally have overnight guests.
Hence I can't see us enjoying significantly smaller housing. Downsizing may have some value in terms of expenses but the process would be torturous.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (nBr1j)

124 >>I would need two tiny houses: One to live in, and one to keep my stuff.


I'd need 5 just for my records.

Posted by: garrett at May 28, 2017 10:15 AM (ked5m)

125 I'm two-thirds of the way through Rousseau and Romanticism which was recommended here at some point. It's made me think about where some of my own basic assumptions came from as well as those of a young man I was recently talking to who liked the idea of transhumanism. I think I'm going to recommend it to a couple of my daughters.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:19 AM (sEDyY)

126 Not sure what the sq footage of my one bedroom apt is, but I've gotten a lot into it, and it doesn't feel cramped at all.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ANIFC)

127 So far "Edison's Conquest of Mars" has been a retro blast. Lots of tell not show. But the ideas and the retro are powerful. Testing of the disintegration device is historical Edison. Similar shocking to current readers as The Murders in the Rue Morgue.

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:46 AM (HGnpK)


I just finished it myself and found it to be a fairly decent yarn. The best thing about it was that the story was a time-capsule of 1890's attitudes.

I had the same thought when Edison tested the disintegrator on a crow - he sure would have had PETA howling. I wonder what he thought of being portrayed as the fictional savior of mankind?

For those interested, I found a shortened version of the story in The Treasury of Science Fiction Classics, an anthology of pre-WWI sci-fi edited by Harold Kuebler and published by Hanover House in 1954.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:20 AM (5Yee7)

128 124
I'd need 5 just for my records.
Posted by: garrett at May 28, 2017 10:15 AM (ked5m)


Probably. I have two bedrooms that are chock full of stuff, like books, magazines, records, CDs, and various and sundry other things. To the point where I can barely walk around in them.

And then there's the attic.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:21 AM (sdi6R)

129 oops, that should be "pre-WWII" in my previous comment

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:22 AM (5Yee7)

130 I'd like to have an ammunition and gunpowder bunker.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:23 AM (Sfs6o)

131 I'd like to have an ammunition and gunpowder bunker.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:23 AM (Sfs6o)
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I thought you pretty much already do.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:24 AM (sBOL1)

132 Just finished listening to V the K's final installment of his Worlds Apart series. Laugh out loud passages, with several nods to the HQ, combined with political philosophy and the unending tension between those who want to be left alone and those who *need* to control others.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:24 AM (sEDyY)

133 126 Not sure what the sq footage of my one bedroom apt is, but I've gotten a lot into it, and it doesn't feel cramped at all.
Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ANIFC)


One thing I've always noticed when moving in and out of places is that a bare, empty room seems smaller that when it is being lived in and is full of rugs, furniture, bookshelves, knickknacks, etc.

It sounds counterintuitive, but I've had that feeling on several occasions.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:26 AM (sdi6R)

134
I thought you pretty much already do.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:24 AM (sBOL1)
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I meant one that isn't called 'half of the basement'

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:26 AM (Sfs6o)

135 Dutch oven, anyone?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 10:27 AM (vRcUp)

136 It would be like me opening a book store in my living room, except I reserve the right to open the shop in my robe and slippers.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:08 AM (NT3RT)


Pratchett talked about "L" space that was a topological convolution of reality caused by a large concentration of books in one place, and this explained why many bookstore owners were odd, as they are actually slip-throughs from alternate realities where opening around noon and working in a house coat or slippers was the peak of retail acumen.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (mkDpn)

137 Also finished Anna Puma's A Pinch of Larceny. Cute story in a world slightly different from this. Could have used a bit more editing, but I'm definitely interested in seeing more and learning more about the world she's written.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (sEDyY)

138 Crossbow v. longbow, around this crowd? Now you've done it.

*braces for the outbreak of WWIII*


Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (26lkV)


Campbell's book never really goes into the weeds of the relative merits of the two weapons. He does make the argument that the crossbow seemed to have a shorter range than the longbow (90-m vs. 275-m). He actually writes about the doctrinal differences between the two armies which I found very interesting but I was not impressed by his writing style in this book.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:29 AM (5Yee7)

139 I've noticed lately that it is increasingly difficult to just read through a book, especially fiction, without distraction from other books. I'll start a novel and enjoy it. But then something makes me think of passage from CS Lewis about medieval literature or some detail of WW I or a cookbook recipe or tying a fly for fishing or something. This wasn't such a problem when younger. Now I'm a little concerned and annoyed.

To counter this, I'm getting out the first three books of the O'Brian Aubrey/Maturin series to read through without interruption. This will start in a week or so once I've finished the new Tolkien and the latest Lumby books I mentioned earlier. (I've been waiting for those for many moons.) I'll have "A Sea of Words" and "The Sailor's Word-Book" handy to help make sense of the nautical jargon.

Anyone else dealing with this situation? I can't be the only one concerned about the lack of extended focus.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:31 AM (V+03K)

140 Regarding Sting's libarry, I'm going to assume Sting is the sort of fella who wants to be thought of as a guy with good taste, and is well read.

But isn't.

Pretentious, if you look the word up in a dictionary, it doesn't have Sting's picture. But it should.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:32 AM (Pz4pT)

141 Do they still use "Ott," and "Alou?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2017 09:49 AM (rF0hx)


Ayup. Also 'Eno' is common. Mrs. Muse had no idea who he was, but after having to sort through all the various clues about him in puzzle after puzzle, she now knows a good deal.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:34 AM (WcAaY)

142 "...and this explained why many bookstore owners were odd, as they are actually slip-throughs from alternate realities where opening around noon and working in a house coat or slippers was the peak of retail acumen.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (mkDpn)"
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This theory has merit.

Does it also posit why cats are often found at these waysites to other dimensions?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:35 AM (NT3RT)

143 It's made me think about where some of my own basic assumptions came from as well as those of a young man I was recently talking to who liked the idea of transhumanism. I think I'm going to recommend it to a couple of my daughters.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

Part of getting older and keeping your eyes open, and actually trying to educate yourself, is the growing realization that much of what you were taught and told earlier in your life was just so much bullshit.
You are taught and told so many thing that are actually conflicting, and sorting them out may not make friends and influence people, but it can be illuminating and begin to free your mind to see the world as it actually is.
Not always a happy experience, and frequently, alienating to much of the world as it presently exists. But it is also part of being aware, and not being manipulated for the sake of others.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 28, 2017 10:36 AM (S6Pax)

144 Tiny Houses are voluntary self-Third Worldization by numbskulls disguised as virtue signaling.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (9q7Dl


I get kind of a creepy "U.N." vibe to all of this, like we all should live in these tiny houses, munching cockroaches, and speaking to each other in Esperanto.

"It's a small world after all..."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:38 AM (WcAaY)

145 Re-read of the David Eddings Belgariad series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (mpXpK)


Me too! I'm most of the way through "Magician's Gambit" and they're almost to Prolgu. I'd forgotten how flowery some of Eddings' descriptions are.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (ar2KI)

146 Is slabberment related to slatternly? From the second paragraph of "Omoo"

"On approaching, she turned out to be a small, slatternly-looking craft, her hull and spars a dingy black, rigging all slack and bleached nearly white, and everything denoting an ill state of affairs aboard. "

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (BO/km)

147 All Hail Eris, Alan Dean Foster wrote a book about the cats and their job.

The book is called Cat-a-Lyst.
https://www.amazon.com/Cat-Lyst-Alan-Dean-Foster/dp/0441646611

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (d4e3K)

148 Anyone here read it & really like it? We could have a longbows versus crossbows fight about Longbowman versus Crossbowman!

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (ANIFC)


No, although I think my disappointment was based on my expectations of the book's title. If you write a book Longbowman versus Crossbowman it behooves you to, oh I don't know, maybe discuss the relative merits of the weapons in depth? As an analysis of what Edward III's objectives were and what he did to try to achieve them, the book is OK.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:40 AM (5Yee7)

149 87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)

It's the modern form of genteel poverty, imo

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 28, 2017 10:41 AM (hMwEB)

150 145 Me too! I'm most of the way through "Magician's
Gambit" and they're almost to Prolgu. I'd forgotten how flowery some of
Eddings' descriptions are.


Posted by: pookysgirl at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (ar2KI)

I just wish you could get the rest of his series in the US for a Kindle. Evidently they are still squabbling over inheritance. The just recently stared selling the Belgariad series here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:41 AM (mpXpK)

151 Anyone else dealing with this situation? I can't be the only one concerned about the lack of extended focus.
Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:31 AM (V+03K)
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Me me me me me. I always have a bunch of books going and can't seem to focus on any of them. That's why I went to the library yesterday - to return them all except Greenmantle so I can finish the dang thing without the siren call of another book interrupting me.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:42 AM (sBOL1)

152 Does it also posit why cats are often found at these waysites to other dimensions?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:35 AM (NT3RT)


The theory does not address this, and any suggestion I make would be pure guessing.

It does remind me of a story about interdimensional holes, and things that come through them as a suggestion:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24392

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (mkDpn)

153 they are actually slip-throughs from alternate realities where opening around noon and working in a house coat or slippers was the peak of retail acumen.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (mkDpn)
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That actually sounds like me practicing my housewifery.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (sBOL1)

154 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)

155 Polliwogette, I am glad you liked my little story. Working on three follow-on stories.

Now if I could only find if my story is listed amidst all the other entries but alas it seems Amazon has either a slabberment on their hands or simply a cock-up of epic proportions with their Storyteller contest.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yd6lu9a6

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:45 AM (d4e3K)

156 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)


Bono, because his name is shorter by one letter.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:46 AM (WcAaY)

157 I also liked. "After drinking too much, the toilet kept moving."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 10:46 AM (qES5k)

158 I found a first edition hardcover of "The Great Upheaval" in a bargain bin at the supermarket, of all places. It must have been remaindered, as there was a black mark across the page edges at the bottom.

I had never heard of the book or the author, but I flipped through it quickly and immediately put it in my cart. The store periodically has bargain book bins, and they are almost all cookbooks, diet books, and popular novels. I have no idea how that one ended up there. What a find.

I still haven't gotten around to reading it, alas.
Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (sdi6R)


We discussed it around here before. Jay Winik is one of the better writers of American history these days. Maybe that's a low bar, because of how many bad writers of American history there are.

Anyway, read the book!

You won't be sorry.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Pz4pT)

159 If I remember correctly the US prison near Chicago had a higher death rate than Andersonville, and the prison McElroy was sent to after Andersonville was near Loris SC (?) which was mostly a carbon copy. Remember civil wars are not known for civility between the opposing sides.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Ot7+c)

160 87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)


It's the modern form of genteel poverty, imo

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 28, 2017 10:41 AM (hMwEB)


No, I think the whole push of "tiny houses are cool, yo" is more insidious than that. I think the globalists are trying to condition the proles to not expect more than a 400-ft^2 box in which to sleep, cook, watch praises of Big Brother on the TV and keep them out of inclement weather. The proles shouldn't also expect to own stuff, then they might forget their place.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:48 AM (5Yee7)

161 Tiny Houses are voluntary self-Third Worldization by numbskulls disguised as virtue signaling.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (9q7Dl

I get kind of a creepy "U.N." vibe to all of this, like we all should live in these tiny houses, munching cockroaches, and speaking to each other in Esperanto.

"It's a small world after all..."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:38 AM (WcAaY)


Yeah, U.N. certainly.

But likely, this is more of the "Davos Effect"-

Our Betters World-Wide Edition have finally agreed on what to do with the rest of us.

There's a great dystopian book to be written in all this- I haven't quite found the hook yet.

But, I'm rolling it around in my peanut brain as I'm writing my current novel.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:50 AM (9q7Dl)

162 Dude's a wrassler. Worked hard for that library. You go Sting! Yahooo!

Posted by: The guy who mixes up his Stings at May 28, 2017 10:51 AM (+kahX)

163 Here's another misplaced modifier. which I found on a list onanother site: ""Covered with hot melted cheese, we ate the pizza."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 10:51 AM (qES5k)

164 Well on that happy thought, I am leaving the thread. Mrs. Cop is out of town for the week and I got motivated to do some re-organization. I found a nice photograph of the St. Louis Botanical Garden that I forgot we had, so I off to the wood-shop to make a picture frame and surprise her when she gets home.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:52 AM (5Yee7)

165 We discussed it around here before. Jay Winik is one of the better writers of American history these days. Maybe that's a low bar, because of how many bad writers of American history there are.

Anyway, read the book!

You won't be sorry.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Pz4pT)


Yes, if for no other reasons than it gives an outstanding narration of the French Revolution without having to slog through Schama's Citizens and lets you know where the phrase Potemkin Village came from

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2017 10:53 AM (y7DUB)

166 The age of recursive self-referencing is upon us.

I wanted to catch up without doing any work, so I googled Slobberment.

The first two entries are Dutch and Danish. The third, the very first one in English, points at this here page.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 28, 2017 10:53 AM (gIRsn)

167 Tiny Houses, another front pushing Agenda 21?

By making the Leftist rubes feel even more smug about saving the planet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:54 AM (d4e3K)

168 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)
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I think Sting, because I get the feeling Bono actually believes the stuff he says.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:55 AM (sBOL1)

169 The picture of the cartographer in the NY Times article really threw me. That means that if the Times ran a story and used a map for illustration, that map was hand drawn by someone on staff at the newspaper. Amazing.

And Sgt Mom, I have Luna City IV and enjoyed it.

Posted by: Dr Alice at May 28, 2017 10:56 AM (LaT54)

170 Another dangling participle:

Driving out of Darlington County
Eyes seen the glory of the coming of the Lord

Posted by: m at May 28, 2017 10:57 AM (VgThI)

171 I incorrectly posted that Sting had been a History teacher. He was an English Teacher.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:57 AM (IDPbH)

172 The first two entries are Dutch and Danish. The third, the very first one in English, points at this here page.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 28, 2017 10:53 AM (gIRsn)
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You got me curious, so I looked too, and you're right (naturally). But what I find funny is that the tweet OMuse linked to isn't even in the search results.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:57 AM (sBOL1)

173 159 If I remember correctly the US prison near Chicago had a higher death rate than Andersonville, and the prison McElroy was sent to after Andersonville was near Loris SC (?) which was mostly a carbon copy. Remember civil wars are not known for civility between the opposing sides.
Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Ot7+c)


Also, towards the end of the war, the Confederacy had trouble feeding and clothing their own soldiers, let alone prisoners. The Union didn't have that excuse.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:58 AM (sdi6R)

174 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)


Good question, and I'm not prepared to gauge, but I do know Bono's version is significantly more strident.

So maybe on the basis of that extra ingredient...

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:59 AM (Pz4pT)

175 Actually, I prefer long range artillery and naval bombardment.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (V+03K)


EMP from orbit.

Posted by: Kim Jong-un at May 28, 2017 11:00 AM (TKf/P)

176 Good morning all! Finished "Lost City of the Monkey God" and found it to be quite interesting and well-written, but with a slightly unpleasant crust of PC (he writes for NatGeo, so not surprising.) Good illustration though of liberals being attacked by far-left SWJ loons, illustrative of much that is wrong in academia.
Also read "A Green and Ancient Light" which was a kindle special yesterday. Absolutely charming and beautifully written, appropriate for older children and teens, but engaging enough for adults.
As for tiny houses (my son calls them "trailers for hipsters") - I built one in the backyard last year, to be a den but it's turned into storage. Put a metal roof on it so we could safely collect rainwater (you do NOT want to drink the water that comes off your shingle roof!) If I could put a bathroom out there, it would be a great extra bedroom, but live in something that small? No.

Posted by: Miss Sippi at May 28, 2017 11:02 AM (Tcfj+)

177 No, I think the whole push of "tiny houses are cool, yo" is more insidious than that. I think the globalists are trying to condition the proles to not expect more than a 400-ft^2 box in which to sleep, cook, watch praises of Big Brother on the TV and keep them out of inclement weather. The proles shouldn't also expect to own stuff, then they might forget their place.


Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:48 AM (5Yee7)

Seriously, no shit. Thats the same damn thing I said when watching one of those shows. I was thinking here we go, the sunlit version of THX1138.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at May 28, 2017 11:04 AM (aMlLZ)

178 Sting has always been pretentious. One of my older cousins told me how he was all for population control during the '80s; people should only have 2 children. He already had four at that point, and shortly after the interview had another.

I have exactly one matching set of books: Emerson that was owned by my mother's family.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:05 AM (G8B7r)

179 http://tinyurl.com/ybwqjhg6

Good survey at Gateway of the many, many leaks.

Word is Trump will be doing some unmasking of his own.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 28, 2017 11:06 AM (pV/54)

180 My present house is 1100 sq ft. and when (if) we move it will definitely be to something larger, maybe double that.

Last book I read was "Homo Deus" by Yuval N. Hariri.

Enjoyable, but he sort of lost me when he went in to scientifically explaining away the existence of the human soul as being mathematically impossible.

Just another brainy nihilist, I concluded.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:06 AM (w7KSn)

181 Merkel is a slabberment, a slobbering one. The bitch who flooded Europe with violent migrants is calling US an unreliable partner. F the Paris climate shitbox

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:10 AM (2+tI4)

182 @82 (Colin)- Fort Delaware (Pea Patch Island) was no picnic either. One of my ancestors who fought for the Confederacy was captured and didn't last a year there.

Smallpox,scurvy, malnutrition, and foul non potable water were the order of the day and all vying to kill the prisoners.

But since it was a Union prison you will never hear a word spoken about the conditions there.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 28, 2017 11:11 AM (ARzf8)

183 That library looks like several sets of encyclopedias. Or possibly "The History of the World" in 117 volumes.

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 28, 2017 11:12 AM (PzBTm)

184 Sting has always been pretentious. One of my older cousins told me how he was all for population control during the '80s; people should only have 2 children. He already had four at that point, and shortly after the interview had another.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:05 AM (G8B7r)


Heh. Typical left wing hypocrisy. "Restrictions for thee, but not for me."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:13 AM (WcAaY)

185 Rumor has it that each buyer of a "Tiny House" gets a free copy of Al Gore's "Earth In The Balance".

Posted by: mrp at May 28, 2017 11:13 AM (Pqytn)

186 Read Sabrina Chase's One Blood (Argonauts in Space #2) after re-reading book #1, where the main characters from the Pluto spaceship go to the planet of the Neanderthals for help against the alien threat. Their travel across the planet is reminiscent of the Ringo/Weber book March Upcountry. Really good, think it's her best book so far.

Posted by: waelse1 at May 28, 2017 11:13 AM (hgoL5)

187 176 ... Miss Sippi, Thanks for mentioning "A Green and Ancient Light". I too got the Kindle version yesterday for future reading. I can always enjoy engaging and beautifully written books. It's so damn rare these days.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 11:14 AM (V+03K)

188 A lot of the tiny house craze is the realization by people in their 40's and older that they can't buy a house on one income like their parents did. Hell, I know that since I'm single, I am going to die inside a rented property. If I buy a trailer - I'm still on rented ground.

The possibility of having a house big enough to die in - yeah, that's kind of a bummer - but for those of us without a family it's an attainable and desirable goal.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 28, 2017 11:14 AM (c1VpD)

189 >> David Eddings Belgariad series.


Awesome stuff.

Posted by: garrett at May 28, 2017 11:16 AM (ked5m)

190 So who has the bigger room?

The owner/occupant of a Tiny House or a prisoner in their cell?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (d4e3K)

191 A good application of the tiny house would be to house a mother in law or as an artist studio.
That would be just fine by me.
I'd love one on my property for a studio, situated just on the other side of the olympic size swimming pool.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (w7KSn)

192 Trump tweets:
It is my opinion that many of the leaks coming out of the White House are fabricated lies made up by the #FakeNews media.
Whenever you see the words 'sources say' in the fake news media, and they don't mention names....
....it is very possible that those sources don't exist but are made up by fake news writers. #FakeNews is the enemy!
British Prime Minister May was very angry that the info the U.K. gave to U.S. about Manchester was leaked. Gave me full details!

Game on!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 28, 2017 11:19 AM (pV/54)

193 I found Sting's library in this article, "Libraries of the Rich and Famous Part 2":

http://bookriot.com/2012/03/21/libraries-of-the-rich-and-famous-part-two/

Note Johns Hopkins Professor Richard A. Macksey's personal library of over 70,000 tomes. Wasn't this used in a previous edition of OM's illustrious and classy book thread?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 11:19 AM (NT3RT)

194 This book has been added to be To Read pile after volunteering at Trail of Honor.

Under the Cover of Light by Carole Engle Avriett tells the story of Thomas 'Jerry' Curtiss who in 1965 was shot down during a rescue mission over North Vietnam and became a POW for 7 1/2 years.
https://www.amazon.com/Under-Cover-Light-Extraordinary-Captivity/dp/1496421574

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:21 AM (d4e3K)

195 I must admit I find the move to smaller homes has it's charm. I currently have way more than I need, but I keep it in the very unlikely event that something happens to my daughter/her husband and they need to come live with me to economize. My house is paid off and big enough, hers is big but has a large mortgage. The house was large when my two daughters lived here, it's overly spacious for just two.

I cannot fathom a 100-500 Sq ft house, I have no intention of that sort of downsizing ever

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:21 AM (2+tI4)

196 190 So who has the bigger room?

The owner/occupant of a Tiny House or a prisoner in their cell?


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (d4e3K)
The prisoner of the tiny house probably sleeps there and spends the rest of the income traveling and having "experiences". Give me property over a trip to Peru any day

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:23 AM (2+tI4)

197 "...became a POW for 7 1/2 years."

Anna, I will put that on my list. I love reading true stories like that.

You likely have read or seen "Little Dieter Needs to Fly"
A similar true story of struggle, captivity and rescue.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:24 AM (w7KSn)

198 As for books, I'm trying to delve into Charles Williams these days. Not sure I'm crazy about him, but the free Gutenberg project books makes it doable

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:25 AM (2+tI4)

199 I think the globalists are trying to condition the proles to not expect more than a 400-ft^2 box in which to sleep, cook, watch praises of Big Brother on the TV and keep them out of inclement weather. The proles shouldn't also expect to own stuff, then they might forget their place.


Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:48 AM

Maybe, but I think it's also because people want to own a house (not rent) but the price it out of reach and/or the maintenance of a large house is too much.

I have a small house (less than 1K sq feet). I bought it from a family of four who considered it a starter home. My insurance agent looked at it wistfully and said she and her husband would love to trade their big house for something like it, but their house was paid off and low-tax because of the Headlee amendment. So it's a retirement home, too.

Down the street is another one like mine with a family of six (all boys). They've lived here at least five years. The boys are outside all the time, and they don't have a bunch of toys, just bikes and balls.

But it's not the smallest home around here. I looked at one that's 700 and another 500 square feet - both hunting/fishing cabins used as full-time homes. An 80K house leaves room for car and student loan payments.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:25 AM (G8B7r)

200 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (d4e3K)
The prisoner of the tiny house probably sleeps there and spends the rest of the income traveling and having "experiences". Give me property over a trip to Peru any day
Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:23 AM (2+tI4)


People can do what they want, but I have to think the tiny house people have as an undercurrent a belief that their "smaller footprint" on the planet is a good thing.

So... when you jet set around the globe much of your time, you're lying about the footprint thing. Your footprint is likely BIGGER than the guy who spends most of his time at home. It's just, your footprint is stomping all over the place, so you can lie to yourself about its size.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 11:26 AM (Pz4pT)

201 I have a cousin who lives in about a 700 sq ft cottage in Minnesota.
But, it's on a 3 acre lot. Waterfront.
Nice, but she gets the heck out of there come October thru April or so.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:27 AM (w7KSn)

202 The receivers in the NYT radio room look like National products; the big weird vernier tuning dial in the middle, the bar knobs on other controls, and I see a diamond-shaped logo on one of the speakers.
No idea what model unless I go look through the 30's radio magazines.
And could that picture have been taken from a worse angle for identifying the equipment ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 28, 2017 11:28 AM (yV8pG)

203 Note Johns Hopkins Professor Richard A. Macksey's personal library of over 70,000 tomes. Wasn't this used in a previous edition of OM's illustrious and classy book thread?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 11:19 AM (NT3RT)


Yes, I believe so. And I much prefer the perfesser's library to Sting's. It looks like a library that actually gets used.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:31 AM (WcAaY)

204 Hey, I pioneered tiny houses.

Posted by: Ted Kaczynski at May 28, 2017 11:31 AM (sdi6R)

205 People can do what they want, but I have to think the tiny house people have as an undercurrent a belief that their "smaller footprint" on the planet is a good thing.

So... when you jet set around the globe much of your time, you're lying about the footprint thing. Your footprint is likely BIGGER than the guy who spends most of his time at home. It's just, your footprint is stomping all over the place, so you can lie to yourself about its size.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 11:26 AM (Pz4pT)
Yes and the virtue signaling of the globetrotters makes me ill "we're not about property...did I tell you about my trip to Thailand..." Just a different form of conspicuous consumption with nothing to show for it down the road. The son of a friend had the temerity to ask for money for a baby shower so that they could take the poor thing to South America before he's one year old

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:31 AM (2+tI4)

206 I've watched the tiny house shows on TV with the people so excited and self righteous about "down sizing" and squeezing their family of 5 into a closet. I've always wanted to see them a year later. Are they still living "tiny"? Are they still together? Has one family member snapped and murdered the others? Have the children run off to join the circus?

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 28, 2017 11:33 AM (PzBTm)

207 206 I've watched the tiny house shows on TV with the people so excited and self righteous about "down sizing" and squeezing their family of 5 into a closet. I've always wanted to see them a year later. Are they still living "tiny"? Are they still together? Has one family member snapped and murdered the others? Have the children run off to join the circus?

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 28, 2017 11:33 AM (PzBTm)
Yep, the halo they put on their heads pisses me off

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:34 AM (2+tI4)

208 NavyBrat, Col. Curtiss was at the Trail of Honor. He is a polite person, a real gentleman.

He was telling a few of us how he ended up a POW. His helicopter was hovering dropping a jungle penetrater to the pilot below when it was hit. Next thing that happens is the rotor blades are shattering while hitting the jungle trees and Curtiss is worrying they'll land atop the pilot. Luckily them crushing the pilot did not happen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (d4e3K)

209 Valentine Michael Smith removed unwanted items in a way that almost appears the same as the device. Dis-integrator leaves a cloud of something? Both are (fictionally) capable of removing garments.
Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:46 AM (HGnpK)

As are our transporters. And our doctor is a traditionalist.

Posted by: Daimon Tog at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (brIR5)

210 Has anyone read American Gods or Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman? Is he worth putting on the 'to be read at some point' list?

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (V+03K)

211 Thanxs Anna for that tip.
My cousin was there for 6 1/2 years. Some very interesting experiences.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (0tfLf)

212 The book I mainly remember Sting name-dropping was Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (6FqZa)

213 Months ago, I recommended Darker Shade of Magic (VE Schwab) when I was about halfway through the book. It started with a bang, but crawled across the finish line. I had bought that book when I was in London, but decided to wait for the library to get the next one (Gathering of Shadows) in. It was OK, but I won't be checking out the third one. Overall, I have decided that I loved the world building side of the books, but not the plot nor characters so much.

Did read a fun mystery- tight plot and interesting characters: Still River by Harry Hunsicker. Murder and real estate are not two things that make me say "read this book", but it came recommended. Set in Dallas area with some guns, drugs, and politics mixed in.


Posted by: Charlotte at May 28, 2017 11:36 AM (eBG5R)

214 I often reread books I enjoyed as a child. I came across a book I loved when I was maybe 13, Imperial Governor by George Shipley. The book is a fictional, first person account by Paulinus, Imperial Governor of the province of Britain, of Queen Boudicca's revolt against Rome in the first century. I'm less than a quarter way through but it does live up to my recollection (which is not always the case with the books of my youth). This time I understand more of the book both because I understand much more about Ancient Roman than I did as a youth (this is probably the first book about Ancient Rome I ever read) and I understand much more of the economic and social issues presented.

The author is rather inspiring. A career soldier, he began as a cavalry officer in India in the 20s and served through WWII as a staff officer. After the war, he was a teacher for 20 years and only after his second retirement did he begin to write; I.e., at about my age. This was his first book (although it reads as the work of a more experienced writer). He wrote a handful of other books and was lauded for his historical accuracy. He does write with the attitude of a first century Roman whose views are not whitewashed to avoid offense to modern eyes. He is forgotten today but he did provide me with entertainment and enlightenment during the Johnson administration and during the Trump administration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)

215 Since we're probably going to be moving soon but have no idea when (the AF hasn't even started on Pooky's administrative discharge), we've started to plan out how to pack. I suggested boxing up our four bookcases, but we got stuck on what to leave out. Plus, that means we'd have to box up Pookette's books, and she'd probably have a cow over that since taking away books is a form of punishment. Ah, the perils of a family of bibliophiles.......

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (ar2KI)

216 The book I mainly remember Sting name-dropping was Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (6FqZa)


Which he never actually mentioned by name, just "that book by Nabokov."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (WcAaY)

217 The tiny house thing is interesting from a utility aspect. My 2nd house was about 1300 sq feet (counting the basement) and that was more house than we needed.

But now we live in a 2200 sq ft house(not counting the garage and 2 outbuildings) and its way more than we need, but I like it. Its on several acres though.

I really can't imagine cramming into 400 sq feet unless I was homesteading out in a wilderness area and then you would have the great outdoors to expand into.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 28, 2017 11:40 AM (ARzf8)

218 Diogenes, yes. Very interesting is a polite way to put it.

Another POW at the Trail of Honor was Lt. Cmdr. Agnew, RVAH-13, pilot of RA-5C Vigilante Bu No 1556633. His recon plane got shot down by a MiG-21.

One of his comments on him being captured was - "they stepped aside so I could land."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:40 AM (d4e3K)

219 Google's scanning project had some real benefits for me. I was living in rural Louisiana working as a contractor at JRTC and trying to do my master's at the same time. There was some out of print stuff on the Imperial Japanese Navy I wanted/needed for paper on Alfred Thayer Mahan and the Pacific War, plus some of Mahan's more obscure shit that Google Books was able to pull out for me. Even with copyright redactions, I was able to get some good quotes and page cites.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at May 28, 2017 11:40 AM (mS2v0)

220 Has anyone read American Gods or Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman? Is he worth putting on the 'to be read at some point' list? Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (V+03K)
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Yes to both. Sometimes the mashup of the various mythologies is hard to follow, but both are good tales. Very dark, but the Trickster legends are dark. I think both would have been tighter with more editing, but definitely worth the time. ps -- read in chrono order.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 11:43 AM (MIKMs)

221 Which he never actually mentioned by name, just "that book by Nabokov."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (WcAa

Don't stand. Don't stand so close to me.

Posted by: Daimon Tog at May 28, 2017 11:45 AM (brIR5)

222 Ferengi sock off!

Posted by: Fox2! at May 28, 2017 11:45 AM (brIR5)

223 Isn't a "Tiny House" just a trailer without a park?

Posted by: X-ray at May 28, 2017 11:46 AM (N4gtY)

224 Does anyone really imagine Sting spends his time pouring through the collected works of whover in these antique editions?

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:46 AM (2+tI4)

225 188 A lot of the tiny house craze is the realization by people in their 40's and older that they can't buy a house on one income like their parents did. Hell, I know that since I'm single, I am going to die inside a rented property. If I buy a trailer - I'm still on rented ground.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 28, 2017 11:14 AM

I bought my house because rent and utilities kept going up. Even though the market crashed and my property is worth 40K less than what I paid (and about half the top of market), I pay about $650 a month for mortgage, insurance, and utilities. That was just my rent at a one bedroom apartment when I moved.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:47 AM (G8B7r)

226 When I originally bought my house it was 1420 sq ft on a 3/4 acre lot. It is in the county but near the town. I paid $50K for it in 1981. It is now ~1700 sq ft on 1.5 acres.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 11:50 AM (mpXpK)

227 George Shipley should be George Shipway

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 11:51 AM (mkDpn)

228 157 I also liked. "After drinking too much, the toilet kept moving."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 10:46 AM (qES5k)


Ah yes, that reminds me of my college days.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 11:51 AM (sdi6R)

229 Google's prohibition against being evil always seems to run smack dab into the fact that they cannot tell right from wrong.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2017 11:52 AM (g8Y0s)

230 Help! I've gone down the rabbit hole of Pinterest library porn!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 11:53 AM (NT3RT)

231 168 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)
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I think Sting, because I get the feeling Bono actually believes the stuff he says.
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It's a toss-up, but I'd go with Sting. Bono at least used to flummox his anti-Bush audiences by saying "W" had done more to fight AIDS in Africa than any other President.

Confusion, cognitive dissonance and consternation ensued....

Posted by: Noam Sayen at May 28, 2017 11:53 AM (611Lm)

232 Does anyone really imagine Sting spends his time pouring through the collected works of whover in these antique editions?
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Before the internet, as a reader or student, having sets was actually useful because you could find, in your own house, stuff to read and citations to use without the time constraints of library hours. So I don't make too much fun of people with matchy-matchy sets -- the only times I do is when they are obviously books by the yard of old obscure novels bought as decor (I have actually attempted to read some of them) like the Franklin Mint/Readers Digest. Bound in the finest Corinthian Leather.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 11:53 AM (MIKMs)

233 Anna.
Yes, trying to be polite. Harrowing, brutal, cruel. Those apply too.
I've read McCain's book about it. And spoken with the cousin. A very difficult time but in retrospect after learning how they coped, very uplifting.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2017 11:54 AM (0tfLf)

234 I liked American Gods. It's not one I would call a must read, but it was entertaining enough. One word of caution though, it does have a pretty graphic gay scene. It's not story line related though, so feel free to skip it.

Posted by: Lauren at May 28, 2017 11:55 AM (OeoF8)

235 Maybe this will rescue All Hail Eris, a history of the boot.

https://www.amazon.com/Boot-Bradley-Quinn/dp/1856696634

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:56 AM (d4e3K)

236
B-52 flyover of the Indy 500 opening ceremonies. Must be from Minot...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 12:00 PM (4DCSq)

237 Book Expo America is this week at the Javis Center in NY

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 28, 2017 12:01 PM (CesFO)

238 George Shipley should be George Shipway

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D'oh!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 12:02 PM (Nwg0u)

239 Lauren and mustbequantum, Thanks for the remarks about Neil Gaiman. He goes on the list.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 12:07 PM (V+03K)

240 hi there, I've been researching a story on tiny houses for the senior citizen website I write for. Some of 'em say that smaller footprint BS, but most want to own something nice that they can afford. Oldsters want to downsize and be closer to relatives without renting -but older couples say that a couple of rainy days gets tiresome . I'm looking because I'm 62 and need an exit strategy from NYC when they finally kill rent stabilization protection. I will never be able to get a mortgage, don't have a lot of dough and lived in 600 sq feet or less almost my whole life, in railroad flats. Not. big change.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 12:08 PM (11H2y)

241 Who couldda seen this coming? From the NYT'

We'll probably never know Salman Abedi's true motive.

http://tinyurl.com/yc3odo8b

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 12:11 PM (Nwg0u)

242 The room I'm sitting in right now is the smallest bedroom in my house.

The house was built at the height of the baby boom in the 1950s, so it was probably intended as a nursery.

When my family first moved here, it was my younger sister's bedroom. Eventually she outgrew it and moved into a larger bedroom.

Then my dad used it as a den. Today I use it for much the same purpose, and since my computer is here, I spend more time in this room than any other. I hardly ever use the much larger living room since I quit watching TV.

You would not believe how much stuff I have crammed into this room. Yet I find it comfortable.

If I emptied out this room, it probably wouldn't be much bigger than a walk-in closet in some houses.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 12:11 PM (sdi6R)

243 Heh. It does have that law library look and feel to it, doesn't it?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (WcAaY)

I noticed that, too. Almost as though the library was supplied by an interior decorator. I remember a pub in Vancouver, B.C. that was decorated that way, and most of the books were old law books, outdated encyclopedias, and cheap bound set of classics.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:11 PM (XUcIQ)

244 Looks like Justin made potty in those pants.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

Those are high-capacity pantload pants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:13 PM (XUcIQ)

245 229 Google's prohibition against being evil always seems to run smack dab into the fact that they cannot tell right from wrong.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2017 11:52 AM (g8Y0s)

Google is not a thinking entity... it is a Company controlled by a small group of people....

So you must then ask, what do the people who control the company think.... do they even believe in EVIL? do they have some base beliefs about what is good? or what is evil? and are the CONSISTENT?

Its like the 'the US Government has an interest in'.... well.. no... the US Government itself has no interests... the people RUNNING said government does, and then they HIDE their actions behind the larger unaccountable term...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 28, 2017 12:14 PM (NgKpN)

246
I bought way more house than I needed. But then I'm not a very disciplined individual. If I hadn't purchased something of enduring value I would have spent my life buying rapidly depreciating crap.

In the end, with mortgage paid, and it having appreciated something like three times the initial purchase price, it seems like it was a good idea. For me.

I'm only presenting this as the other side of the coin. I don't recommend this for anyone, much less everyone. There's financial self discipline, which I lack, and the strict financial discipline imposed by scrapping by month to month for decades.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 12:14 PM (HTdUD)

247 and yes a tiny house is a trailer without a park. They are on wheels (I saw a story about people getting their tiny house stolen, too.) all those tiny house folks are in locations where there are no zoning problems, isolated, where they own the land. A lot of communities don't like tiny houses because they impact property values...and there are lots of social service types who think tiny houses are good solution to the homeless problem. I agree that a follow up story a year later would be great.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 12:15 PM (11H2y)

248 *shakes fist at Anna*

Alright, off to visit my good friends who don't live in little grey boxes.

Hey, we're all Tiny House aficionados here!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 12:18 PM (NT3RT)

249 Appropriate for Memorial day I'd like to recommend all the Vietnam books by Keith William Nolan. He wrote 12 of them, interviewed dozens of the survivors of the units involved, one of them was my old unit , 9th Inf. in Tet "House to House", I knew a lot of the guys and incidents. The guys are all in their late 60s to early 70s now, it seems the public doesn't have too much interest in this period.Anyway Good Reads link below with description of his books.

http://tinyurl.com/y6vz5kno

Posted by: JHW at May 28, 2017 12:19 PM (kn0BL)

250 Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 12:08 PM (11H2y)

I've been thinking about building a family compound.... probably on land in Colorado... we have 4 in my family who all want to downsize in the next few years...

It will have a Central building... with a big kitchen and dining room... and a living room / den arrangement where everyone has access...

But then... a collection of small unattached bungalows.... each like a small apartment with small kitchen, single bedroom, LARGE bath, and living room...

So.... combination Family area, and then PRIVATE areas...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 28, 2017 12:20 PM (NgKpN)

251 Google is, by now, a quasi governmental agency, of that there can be no doubt.
They have those large hangars at Mt. View (Federal property) and share information with NSA.


"Don't Be Evil" is a total pantload.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 12:20 PM (w7KSn)

252 This may or may not be a dangling participle:

Leaving a trail of slime wherever she went, Nancy Pelosi watched Maxine Waters approach the podium.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 12:21 PM (Nwg0u)

253 I noticed that, too. Almost as though the library was supplied by an interior decorator.

I agree, it looks like the work of a decorator, not a bibliophile. That's probably unfair, if I had the money Sting does I'd have all rich leather bound editions of everything I could get instead of a random jumble of second hand paperbacks.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 28, 2017 12:22 PM (39g3+)

254 I recommend Harvard Classics and Great Books as useful sets. Wide-ranging and enough meat for further study. I keep my old 11th edition Britannica for reference and the all-purpose 1930 Roget's (both Latin and Greek quotes for sources).

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 12:23 PM (MIKMs)

255 I would also like to see a follow-up on the tiny houses - like how many possessions and goods are now kept outside, leaning against the walls, creeping down the lawn.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 28, 2017 12:23 PM (+tKYk)

256 Everyone at church?

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 12:29 PM (ANIFC)

257 I have a friend who lives in a 4k sq ft house, alone.
One very large bedroom is filled with nothing but Gibson electric guitars, all the same model (I forget the model number) but they are the red solid body ones with the pointy tips on the body.
He must have several hundred. You can't walk in that room, seriously, you open the door, and you would have to start stacking the guitars in the hallways to get in.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 12:30 PM (w7KSn)

258 ***CNN BREAKING NEWS UPDATE*** PRESIDENT HID BEHIND CHILDREN FOR SECRET MEETINGS WITH PUTIN IN MOSCOW

link in nic

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 28, 2017 12:30 PM (Ndje9)

259 I saw Tiny Houses open for Big Country in 08 at Pine Knob

Posted by: A deplorable dude in MI at May 28, 2017 12:32 PM (5Uq5D)

260 He must have several hundred. You can't walk in that room, seriously, you open the door, and you would have to start stacking the guitars in the hallways to get in.
Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 12:30 PM (w7KSn)
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I presume he plays, but what does he do with that many? I think my son has 8 guitars, including a bass and a 12-string, and I think that's a lot, but he does play them all.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 12:33 PM (sBOL1)

261 I just looked it up.
They are all Gibson SG (standard guitar).
I suppose he collects them for resale, eventually.
I see most of them are going for north of $1k, some I see as high as $5k.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 12:36 PM (w7KSn)

262 Thank you for the kind words, waelse1! To be mentioned in the company of Ringo and Weber is...highly motivating *rolls up writer sleeves*.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 28, 2017 12:37 PM (mDjbp)

263 My son's favorite guitar is his Gibson SG. We got it for him for Christmas one year once we saw what he could do with a guitar.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 12:38 PM (sBOL1)

264 Oh great, tiny houses. Now, instead of just being annoyed at your neighbor parking his cars in the street you can also be annoyed at keeping stuff in the street as well. Because if his garage was too full of crap to fit a car, where does the crap go without a garage?

Ah, minimalist dude. That's how it's accomplish. Discard everything non-essential.

You notice the common denominator with every minimalist dude. The lack of a minimalist dudette.

Posted by: charley horse at May 28, 2017 12:39 PM (+kahX)

265 I keep my old 11th edition Britannica for reference and the all-purpose 1930 Roget's (both Latin and Greek quotes for sources).
Posted by: mustbequantum
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Same here. Do not recall the Edition, but my Britannica is 1989 version, Roget's, and Bartletts, as well as Putnam's Phrase Book, The New Dictionary of Thoughts, and Simpson's Contemporary Quotations.

It's all very convenient, I don't have to engage in any original thought at all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 12:42 PM (ZO497)

266 It's all very convenient, I don't have to engage in any original thought at all.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 12:42 PM (ZO497)
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Thus leaving you more time to engage with us.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 12:42 PM (sBOL1)

267 I could live a very minimal life, but there'd be a lot of books, papers, kitchen supplies, and plants stacked around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 28, 2017 12:42 PM (39g3+)

268 Oh great, tiny houses. Now, instead of just being annoyed at your neighbor parking his cars in the street you can also be annoyed at keeping stuff in the street as well.
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I don't know about the rest of the nation, but in the south, a 'tiny house' is called a 'garage'. If it's on wheels, then it's just a trailer with shingles.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 12:44 PM (NBHj5)

269 My mom has a full leather bound Encyclopedia Britannica set from 1939. Everything in it is quite useful research, I still use it (gently) for information because its incredibly well written and scholarly about the times and history. I'm sure its worth an absolute fortune at this point, its even in the original shelf they sold with the books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 28, 2017 12:44 PM (39g3+)

270 Ah, minimalist dude. That's how it's accomplish. Discard everything non-essential.


You notice the common denominator with every minimalist dude. The lack of a minimalist dudette.
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It's not our fault.

We need shoes.

And outfits. And undergarments.

And... BOOOKS!!!

Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 12:45 PM (aT+Bx)

271 @249 JHW I read 'The Hill Fights- First Battle of Khe Sanh" by Edward F. Murphy and it was a page turner. I highly recommend that one.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 28, 2017 12:46 PM (ARzf8)

272 And purses, shibumi, don't forget purses.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 12:48 PM (sBOL1)

273 MSNBC weekend anchor pushing point that Congressional Rs shouldn't support Trump's agenda because his election was illegitimate.

MSM delenda est

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 28, 2017 12:49 PM (pV/54)

274 Ah, minimalist dude. That's how it's accomplish. Discard everything non-essential. You notice the common denominator with every minimalist dude. The lack of a minimalist dudette.
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LOL. They marry each other. I will mention that for my friends and relatives, it appears to be the other way around. Dudettes getting rid of everything to redecorate every other year with latest HGTV trend.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 12:49 PM (MIKMs)

275 Thus leaving you more time to engage with us.

Posted by: bluebell
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"Time is a dressmaker, specializing in alterations"
-- Faith Baldwin

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 12:50 PM (ZO497)

276 And purses, shibumi, don't forget purses.
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Yeah. I'm not a big spender on purses, so I have LOTS of them. For every season and every occasion.

But lots more books.

Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 12:52 PM (aT+Bx)

277
Big crash at Indy. Dixon and Howard...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 12:54 PM (4DCSq)

278 I'm about a third of the way through "Freehold" by Michael Williamson. Someone please tell me this gets better. I got it for free through the Wrongthink giveaway, so I'm not out any cash, but it's kind of a tedious read.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at May 28, 2017 12:57 PM (THS4q)

279 Terrible crash at Indy. Dixon should be on his knees thanking The Good Lord he survived it.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 28, 2017 12:59 PM (b8+C/)

280 I'm about a third of the way through "Freehold" by Michael Williamson. Someone please tell me this gets better. I got it for free through the Wrongthink giveaway, so I'm not out any cash, but it's kind of a tedious read.
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If you don't like it, stop reading it.

Life is too short and our time is too precious to read bad books.

Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 01:01 PM (aT+Bx)

281
Dixon was just in the wrong place and got collected. The biggest piece could fit in my Ranger.

Red flag to repair the safety fence...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 01:02 PM (4DCSq)

282 Life is too short and our time is too precious to read bad books.
Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 01:01 PM (aT+Bx)
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I agree, as does our illustrious host. Who cares what other people think, if you don't like it, just stop.

I gave up on The Girl on the Train, even though almost everyone loves it, because I was disgusted with every character in it, including the girl herself. I kept pushing myself to read it until I finally said what the heck am I doing?

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 01:03 PM (sBOL1)

283 I gave up on The Girl on the Train, even though almost everyone loves it, because I was disgusted with every character in it, including the girl herself. I kept pushing myself to read it until I finally said what the heck am I doing?
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Also... people often forget that badly written books get published. Why? I have no idea in regards to fiction-- I'm guessing the person has a "name" or the book reflects an agenda that the publisher has.

In regards to non-fiction, it's a crapshoot. Lots of books are from people who are PhDs that HAVE to publish, and their work IS published by university presses. And it's horrible and unreadable.

Not because they're smarter than you; they're BAD writers, which readers never consider.

/it's not you. it's them.

Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 01:07 PM (aT+Bx)

284 To turn this into a race thread or not?
I remember reading 30 Days in May as a young teenager about the Indy 500. Just looked for it on Kindle but doesn't show up.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 01:09 PM (qcbvC)

285 https://www.amazon.com/Thirty-Days-May-Indy-500/dp/0399606300

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 01:10 PM (qcbvC)

286 Jim Bunning, Baseball Hall of Fame pitcher and former U.S. Congressman, died Friday, May 26, 2017, according to multiple news sources. He was 85.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD at May 28, 2017 01:10 PM (e8kgV)

287 Hows that for memory?, read that over 40 years ago and not once since.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 01:11 PM (qcbvC)

288 I guess we don't have any COBs today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 01:12 PM (mpXpK)

289 Thirty days in May with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2017 01:13 PM (IqV8l)

290 I use Google Books a lot, mostly religious works. It is a great resource.

Posted by: MAGA at May 28, 2017 01:13 PM (LQ1Q3)

291
Jim Bunning, Baseball Hall of Fame pitcher and former U.S. Congressman, died Friday, May 26, 2017, according to multiple news sources. He was 85.

Posted by: undocumented SMOD


Darn. I'll never forget his Father's Day perfect game, pitching for the Philadelphia Phillies in whatever-the-hell year that was.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 01:14 PM (HTdUD)

292 >>>"Laughing merrily, the cake was cut."

How do you cut a cake into 8 pieces with only 3 cuts? Twice from the top, once through the middle.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 01:14 PM (vRcUp)

293 Jim Bunning was also a US Senator.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 01:18 PM (HTdUD)

294 Whenever I see a library that looks like Sting's, I think "poseur," unless they are a doctor or other professional who have to routinely utilize reference series.

That is a trophy-library. I'd venture that most of those books have never been opened, let alone read.

Posted by: RobM1981 at May 28, 2017 01:19 PM (VVBN7)

295 We need shoes.

And outfits. And undergarments.

And... BOOOKS!!!

Posted by: shibumi


*fistbump*

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at May 28, 2017 01:20 PM (vRcUp)

296 Jim Bunning was also a Republican.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 01:20 PM (HTdUD)

297
284 To turn this into a race thread or not?
I remember reading 30 Days in May as a young teenager about the Indy 500.


Nice blending of the topics, Skip!

Thunderstorms knocked out my satellite this morning, so missed it. How did Vettel take the lead?

BTW, NDH used to give us an occasional racing thread.

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 01:23 PM (4DCSq)

298 Hmmm spree killing in Mississippi...

*checks CNN*

Hmmm. Nothing there. Bet he's black.

*checks online elsewhere*

Yup.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2017 01:23 PM (4ErVI)

299 Best SLABBERMENT twins.
McCain and Lindsey
Obama and Uncle Joe
Nancy and Chuck
Bill and Loretta (get back, with your pardon of Hill and your Don vendetta)

Posted by: Rhennigantx at May 28, 2017 01:24 PM (bmkS9)

300 Jim Bunning died Friday, 85

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 28, 2017 01:34 PM (e8kgV)

301 Well its dinner/late lunch time, lots to go in this race and sure a few more crashes to halt the action.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 01:35 PM (qcbvC)

302 244 Looks like Justin made potty in those pants.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

Those are high-capacity pantload pants.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:13 PM (XUcIQ)



Iced tea sprayed all over my poo iPad!!!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 28, 2017 01:37 PM (TdMsT)

303 https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/265965/

Hillary friends say she's seething with rage and haunted by losing to someone she considers a dumb, soulless manipulator.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 28, 2017 01:38 PM (VdICR)

304 Jim Bunning was a Hall of Fame pitcher, a United States Senator, pitched no-hitters in both the NL and Al, pitched a perfect game (the first in 84 years), and was a Republican.

If he was a Democrat this would be front page news. Sad that the partisan divide can't be lifted slightly in respect to his incredible accomplishments.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 01:38 PM (HTdUD)

305 Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:47 AM (G8B7r)

This is a late comment, but here goes.

Thank God for you guys. I was feeling seriously out of sync with the SMT for the first time. I started looking at Tiny Houses before they became a TV show. And after years of living in houses of decreasing size and overseas a lot on 2 year stretches I discovered I actually end up living in one room (no matter how many there are). And I like it.But had to have substantial outdoor access. My cousin has a farm.

But got sick. Now recovering almost 4 years later even a tiny house is out of my range.

As for Sting. He is not as ridiculous as most rock stars. And if a teacher at one time I get a library. If I had his money I would have nicely bound classics as well. Someone above was talking about that. Poetry books. And despite my circumstances I have held onto 58 volumes of nicely bound Great Books. Substantially down sized the rest of the library.

So, that's that. BTW now that they are a "thing" TH seriously over hyped, and over priced.


Posted by: gracepc at May 28, 2017 01:39 PM (OU4q6)

306 Hillary friends say she's seething with rage and haunted by losing to someone she considers a dumb, soulless manipulator.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 28, 2017 01:38 PM (VdICR)

I'm haunted by the memories of election night when I pondered what would happen if Hillary won.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2017 01:40 PM (4ErVI)

307 Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 11:53 AM (MIKMs)

I have all the Readers Digest volumes of condensed books. Many books I would not have read otherwise.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 01:40 PM (IDPbH)

308 @298 Dick Thrombosis- "Spree Killing in MS. Checks CNN- Nothing there- bet he's black" Checked online elsewhere..Yep"

HAH! I did the EXACT same thing.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 28, 2017 01:42 PM (ARzf8)

309 @298 Dick Thrombosis- "Spree Killing in MS. Checks CNN- Nothing there- bet he's black" Checked online elsewhere..Yep"

HAH! I did the EXACT same thing.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 28, 2017 01:42 PM (ARzf

CB makes three.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 01:45 PM (Jcg9Q)

310 Posted by: JHW at May 28, 2017 12:19 PM (kn0BL)

Thanks. I am going to check them out. God bless them all. RIP. And a big thank you.

Posted by: gracepc at May 28, 2017 01:47 PM (OU4q6)

311 Hillary friends say she's seething with rage and haunted by losing to someone she considers a dumb, soulless manipulator.

I'm a smart soulless manipulator, with a vagina.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 01:48 PM (vRcUp)

312 I have all the Readers Digest volumes of condensed books. Many books I would not have read otherwise. Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 01:40 PM (IDPbH)
=====

I agree that there are some that I would never have attempted without 'condensed' versions initially, especially with popular fiction. For a home without books, the RD series was awesome. Some people read, some don't.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 01:48 PM (MIKMs)

313 Jim Bunning was also a US Senator.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 01:18 PM (HTdUD)


Bunning was a GREAT Senator.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 28, 2017 01:50 PM (zc3Db)

314 I'm a smart soulless manipulator, with a vagina.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton


I'll have to take her word for that last bit.

Strange, though, how a super genius didn't know how the Electoral College works. . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 01:54 PM (ofVSV)

315 Hillary is dead. They are animating her corpse. They should make a book/movie, "Hillary Clinton, Zombie".

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 01:55 PM (HGnpK)

316 311 Hillary friends say she's seething with rage and haunted by losing to someone she considers a dumb, soulless manipulator.

I'm a smart soulless manipulator, with a vagina.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 01:48 PM (vRcUp)



May her anger FINISH HER.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 28, 2017 01:56 PM (TdMsT)

317 "hi there, I've been researching a story on tiny houses for the senior citizen website I write for."

I've been in a couple of those things, and all of them had design features incompatible with independently aging in place. Loft beds, storage cubbies way down at floor level.

There is a time when the daily motions of one's life must become more... _planar_ than 3-D. When you want the majority of drawers and cabinets around waist height, and you don't want to be clambering down a ladder from your bed in the dark when nature calls.

Unfortunately, the trade space when designing a tiny house is such that it's difficult for stuff to not be 3-D.

I would argue in favor of picking a spot in the boonies and building a larger but spartan cabin. Which can be done pretty cheaply if one eschews yuppie design features.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2017 01:57 PM (ujwCG)

318 245
229 Google's prohibition against being evil always seems to run smack dab into the fact that they cannot tell right from wrong.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2017 11:52 AM (g8Y0s)



a Company controlled by a small group of people....



what do the people who control the company
think.... do they even believe in EVIL?


Posted by: Don Q. at May 28, 2017 12:14 PM (NgKpN)

Google=EVIL=Eric Schmidt

Posted by: gracepc at May 28, 2017 01:57 PM (OU4q6)

319 Bunning was a GREAT Senator.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


I never followed his career in Kentucky much, but his Wiki page refers to him as conservative. So I imagine the MSM will pretty much ignore him and his accomplishments in both sports and politics.

Shame that. I'll never forget the realization that inning after inning he was getting the other team out, 1,2,3 and the sports announcers were too 'jinxed up' to mention that fact. I think I bit every nail on my fingers off by the ninth inning.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 01:58 PM (HTdUD)

320
May her anger FINISH HER.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 28, 2017 01:56 PM (TdMsT)

+++

Was going to say the same thing - hoping it eats her up alive. And it might. Her anger seems to be not diminishing but getting stronger.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 28, 2017 01:58 PM (+tKYk)

321 Hey everybody.

Anybody else here besides me have poker books in their library? I have:

- Super System, Doyle Brunson
- Super System 2
- Theory of Poker, David Sklansky
- Hold 'em Poker for Advanced Players, Sklansky
- No Limit Hold'em, Sklansky/Miller
- Tournament Poker, Sklansky
- Caro's Most Profitable Poker Advice, Mike Caro
- Caro's Book of Poker Tells
- Small Stakes Hold'em, Ed Miller
- Winning Small Stakes Hold'em, Lee Jones
- Professional No-Limit Hold'em, Flynn/Mehta/Miller
- Why You Lose at Poker, Fox/Harker
- Reading Poker Tells, Zachary Ellwood

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 28, 2017 01:59 PM (eMKNe)

322 I would argue in favor of picking a spot in the boonies and building a larger but spartan cabin.

Yeah, you need that for your Necronomicon research

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 02:00 PM (ofVSV)

323 I'm back. Went out to breakfast (opted for lunch - grilled cheese and soup) and ran some errands. It started sprinkling while I was out so I guess I won't be able to do all those chores and projects I wanted to get done and will be forced to sit on my ass instead.

Also, Fuji apples are the best apples.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:01 PM (Sfs6o)

324 Weasel, I think you should go down to your bunker and do some reloading.

Stayman are better.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:02 PM (sBOL1)

325 #310 gracepc
I'd especially recommend Ripcord. I've been at the Ripcord vets website the last hour reading their takes. That book infuriated me and every vet I've lent it too. It was the last big battle US forces participated in, 101st Airborne in the Ashau valley. 2 battalions held out 4 months against a whole NVA division until they pulled out, essentially a lost battle partly because you know who in congress cut back supplies and ammunition that late in the war. You can't help but be proud of the GIs that went through that with scumbag politicians back-stabbing the, a hellava read.

Posted by: JHW at May 28, 2017 02:03 PM (kn0BL)

326
Stayman are better.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:02 PM (sBOL1)
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Stayman? Don't believe I've ever tried them. Because it's impossible to be better than the Fuji.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:04 PM (Sfs6o)

327 "Help! I've gone down the rabbit hole of Pinterest library porn!"

There's a collection of classic pulp paperback covers re-imagined with librarians as the villainesses, dominatrices, or noir heroines. It's really something.

"Her private pupils would *always* remember her special lessons in the Dewey Decimal System."

Now I can't find the damned link! Growl, mutter.

::: rummages to no effect :::

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2017 02:05 PM (ujwCG)

328 Weasel, you're not going to find Stayman in the grocery stores around here much, maybe in a couple places in the fall. I get mine at the farmer's market and they are the best.

My mom used to get them in the grocery store when I was growing up here. I'll bet yours did too.

Fuji are good, but Stayman are better.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:07 PM (sBOL1)

329 YES! We're finally getting a Chik-fil-A in my 'hood. The "Coming Soon" sign just went up. The SJW's are running around screaming like their panties are on fire. Good. Let them stay in their safe spaces. Shorter lines for us normies to get tasty chicken sandwiches.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 02:08 PM (ul9CR)

330 Fuji are good, but Stayman are better.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:07 PM (sBOL1)
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We need a apple thread!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:11 PM (Sfs6o)

331 Fuji apples are the best. Had one for lunch.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 28, 2017 02:12 PM (89T5c)

332 Stayman? Don't believe I've ever tried them. Because it's impossible to be better than the Fuji.

Posted by: Weasel


It's an ancient Japanese secret.

Posted by: George Takei at May 28, 2017 02:12 PM (vRcUp)

333 A SLABBERMENT is a sloppy mess.

But what's a SWLABR?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIxuGOVGeQ

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 02:12 PM (sdi6R)

334 .
One silly thing I see in a large majority of tiny house designs is that they are designed for healthy (and very small mass) young people. Grandma or Grandpa is going to climb up a ladder to get to the sleeping ledge? Most of us getting older tend to consolidate, but that is just nuts.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 02:14 PM (MIKMs)

335 Apple thread at 4pm

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 02:14 PM (qcbvC)

336 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 02:08 PM (ul9CR)
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Lucky! Don't forget the delicious chicken biscuits for breakfast. The only thing that could possibly make CFA any better would be FUJI APPLES!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:16 PM (Sfs6o)

337 "Has one family member snapped and murdered the others? Have the children run off to join the circus?"

What circus? They all went under.


Posted by: JAS at May 28, 2017 02:16 PM (EX4Wr)

338 One reason for dangling modifiers is that people have been taught for 30 years that it is not good to refer to yourself or others too much in a single paragraph. Pronouns are not good. So instead of "They laughed merrily as they cut the cake in half" we get a mishmosh of words that is trying to say that without saying it that way. -- BJ54

Posted by: BJ54 at May 28, 2017 02:17 PM (4CC7y)

339 She Walks Like A Bearded Rainbow

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2017 02:17 PM (IqV8l)

340 Lucky! Don't forget the delicious chicken biscuits for breakfast. The only thing that could possibly make CFA any better would be FUJI APPLES!!!!
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:16 PM (Sfs6o)
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And only thing better than that would be CFA And STAYMAN APPLES, PERIOD, END. OF. STORY.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:18 PM (sBOL1)

341 And only thing better than that would be CFA And STAYMAN APPLES, PERIOD, END. OF. STORY.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:18 PM (sBOL1)
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I just don't know who you are anymore.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:19 PM (Sfs6o)

342 Apple thread at 4pm

Posted by: Skip



F'yeah!

Posted by: Steve Wozniak at May 28, 2017 02:19 PM (vRcUp)

343 I understand OM's admonition to not waste time reading lousy books. I just hoped that all the setup for *something* in "Freehold" would actually lead to something. Or for someone to tell me that it's meh but you need to read it to understand the later books in the series.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at May 28, 2017 02:19 PM (THS4q)

344 Pacific Rose apples are beyond delicious. Had one for the first time this year - they were huge, crisp, and flavorful.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 28, 2017 02:19 PM (c1VpD)

345 I just don't know who you are anymore.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:19 PM (Sfs6o)
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Call me Bluebell Appleseed.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:19 PM (sBOL1)

346 326 ... "Stayman? Don't believe I've ever tried them. Because it's impossible to be better than the Fuji."

Weasel, Macintosh are my favorites but you have to be up north to get good ones. Around here I think honey crisp and Fuji are the most reliable.

Of course, you shoot better than I do so I won't argue too strongly. :-)

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 02:20 PM (V+03K)

347 Fernando still doing very well

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 02:20 PM (qcbvC)

348 Call me Bluebell Appleseed.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:19 PM (sBOL1)
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You've been influenced by Big Apple!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:21 PM (Sfs6o)

349 If we ever have a NoVaMoMe during STAYMAN season I will bring you some and make converts of you all.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:22 PM (sBOL1)

350 Why would anyone want to Stayman?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at May 28, 2017 02:22 PM (vRcUp)

351 I would use Stayman for baking ingredients

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 02:23 PM (qcbvC)

352 Weasel, Macintosh are my favorites but you have to be up north to get good ones. Around here I think honey crisp and Fuji are the most reliable.

Of course, you shoot better than I do so I won't argue too strongly. :-)
Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 02:20 PM (V+03K)
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Hey JTB! Went to the indoor range yesterday and grabbed a 12ga riot gun on the way out the door as an afterthought. Right shoulder is a little sore today!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:24 PM (Sfs6o)

353 She Walks Like A Sasquatch Beard

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 02:25 PM (Nwg0u)

354 349 If we ever have a NoVaMoMe during STAYMAN season I will bring you some and make converts of you all.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:22 PM (sBOL1)
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I could be brought into the Stayman camp with a delicious apple pie.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:27 PM (Sfs6o)

355 ...Electoral College works. . .

Hillary ran out of money. Cash flow problem. Hillary couldn't afford to rig the election by 10% and had to settle for 5%. 10% is much more expensive because someone significant might be sent to jail over it. Hillary couldn't be trusted since she lives the "dead men tell no tales" and "you can't believe a convicted felon"..

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 02:27 PM (HGnpK)

356 She Walks Like A Bearded Rainbow
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
-----------

She woks in sooty, like the night...

Posted by: Mad, bad, and dangerous to know at May 28, 2017 02:30 PM (/ZEVC)

357 This is interesting.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/266041/#respond

See FooDog2's comment.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 02:30 PM (sdi6R)

358 OT but several Morons lamented the lack of Roger Moore in the Movie Thread yesterday.

Here is Mark Steyn's tribute; like all his other obits it is excellent.

https://www.steynonline.com/7854/the-jolliest-of-rogers

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 02:32 PM (GsAUU)

359 "Went to the indoor range yesterday and grabbed a 12ga riot gun on the way out the door as an afterthought. Right shoulder is a little sore today!!"

I'll bet! When it comes to 12 gauge I prefer a HEAVY gun with commercial ammo. The nice thing about the 12 ga. SxS muzzleloaders is it's so easy to come up with a reduced load. A bit slow to reload during a riot, however.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 02:33 PM (V+03K)

360 All of us down at The Brattleboro Womens Reproductive Health Clinic wants to wish Presdent and Micheal Obama a Happy Memerioal Day and all still love you in Brattleboro. Let's get rid of Trump as soon as posssible and bring you back soon...

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 28, 2017 02:33 PM (WmgTn)

361 317
"hi there, I've been researching a story on tiny houses for the senior citizen website I write for."

True about waist height and not climbing up and down through those things. Senior assisted (nice) that I have seen include a no fuss, easy to operate murphy bed,

Posted by: gracepc at May 28, 2017 02:33 PM (OU4q6)

362 I'll bet! When it comes to 12 gauge I prefer a HEAVY gun with commercial ammo. The nice thing about the 12 ga. SxS muzzleloaders is it's so easy to come up with a reduced load. A bit slow to reload during a riot, however.
Posted by: JTB
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Unless you are deer hunting, low-brass, or even reduced recoil buckshot are perfect effective at close-ish ranges.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 02:36 PM (/ZEVC)

363 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 02:36 PM (/ZEVC)
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It's hard to argue with the results of 00 Buck at close range!

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 02:39 PM (Sfs6o)

364 On TCM - Raymond Massey makes a convincing nasty German General, complete with monocle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 02:39 PM (ZO497)

365 It's hard to argue with the results of 00 Buck at close range!
Posted by: Weasel
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It's hard to argue with even a wad at close range.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 02:40 PM (ZO497)

366 327
"Help! I've gone down the rabbit hole of Pinterest library porn!"

There's
a collection of classic pulp paperback covers re-imagined with
librarians as the villainesses, dominatrices, or noir heroines. It's
really something.

"Her private pupils would *always* remember her special lessons in the Dewey Decimal System."

Now I can't find the damned link! Growl, mutter.

::: rummages to no effect :::


Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2017 02:05 PM (ujwCG)

------------------------------------------
Here is one - https://tinyurl.com/yaa9oqnp
Not that I've read any of them.

Posted by: Javems at May 28, 2017 02:41 PM (yOqwj)

367 And, now comes the weekly task of sorting through the Moron recommendations to select the Book Purchase of the Week.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 02:42 PM (ZO497)

368 To the designers who dressed Michelle but dissed Melania:

http://tinyurl.com/y8qzn3wh

links to twitter

Posted by: kallisto at May 28, 2017 02:43 PM (kD8Fh)

369 I don't see the draw for those tiny houses. It doesn't matter where you locate it a 1/2 acre lot is going to cost you at least $10,000. And one thing you can not change regardless of size is kitchens and bathrooms are the most expensive rooms in a house. So if you went to build a 500 sq ft house in my neighborhood out here in the county it would cost you probably somewhere between $60K and $100K. And you would still have a cramped mess to live in.


Of course you could always rent a 500 sq ft apartment in some large city (other than Detroit) for about $5,000 a month.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 02:44 PM (mpXpK)

370 Librarian link?
http://tinyurl.com/ybus7w8b

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 02:44 PM (HGnpK)

371 Of course you could always rent a 500 sq ft apartment in some large city (other than Detroit) for about $5,000 a month.
Posted by: Vic
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Not seeing the problem.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 28, 2017 02:45 PM (ZO497)

372 The amount of buildings in Philadelphia that are vacant, along with wide open property is quite staggering.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 02:48 PM (qcbvC)

373 371 Not seeing the problem.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 28, 2017 02:45 PM (ZO497)

Not everyone has parent's "friends" willing to pluck down $10.5M for a condo in hopes that Scankles would be elected President.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 02:49 PM (mpXpK)

374 Kallisto, that's delicious.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 02:51 PM (sBOL1)

375 LMAO the infamous O Face episode of Bar Rescue is beginning.

The day has gotten even better.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 02:52 PM (GsAUU)

376 372 The amount of buildings in Philadelphia that are vacant, along with wide open property is quite staggering.
Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 02:48 PM (qcbvC)


I wouldn't live there under any circumstances.

My suburban neighborhood is still good. And by "good" I mean "majority white".

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 02:52 PM (sdi6R)

377 Books, guns and apples. Wow! Only in America!!

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 02:53 PM (V+03K)

378 Sing us a song, you're the tambourine man.

Posted by: Billy Dylan at May 28, 2017 02:53 PM (vRcUp)

379 372
The amount of buildings in Philadelphia that are vacant, along with wide open property is quite staggering.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 02:48 PM (qcbvC)

That is because nobody wants to live in Philly. Even NYC is better. Of course rent control in NYC means that nothing will be available to rent.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 02:54 PM (mpXpK)

380 Story at Axios that HRC is "seething with rage" over her loss to Trump.

Also, that she blames "malicious nostalgia" among other things for his win.

Hey, as long as she's not seething in the WH.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 28, 2017 02:55 PM (eMKNe)

381

My friends, you don't have to be afraid of Hillary Clinton in the White House.

I intend to fully support Hillary Clinton from now well into 2020 and beyond. I think we should all get behind her in the full rich experience of bipartisanship and attempt to unite the fracture in the Democrat party.

Posted by: John McCain at May 28, 2017 02:55 PM (HTdUD)

382
A "tiny house" has just enough room for a pot to piss in.

Posted by: mrp at May 28, 2017 03:00 PM (Pqytn)

383 Not everyone has parent's "friends" willing to pluck down $10.5M for a condo in hopes that Scankles would be elected President.
Posted by: Vic
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*?!*

That's only because of obstructionist Republicans. If we had single-payer health insurance and a 15.00/hr. wage, then everyone could live like this.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 28, 2017 03:00 PM (ZO497)

384 Books, guns and apples. Wow! Only in America!!
Posted by: JTB
--------------

Downside: Chelsea Clinton

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:03 PM (ZO497)

385 Little SJW houses, for you and me. I waz born in a small town.

Posted by: John Menstrualcramp at May 28, 2017 03:04 PM (Tyii7)

386 Chelsea- Wouldn't twitter be a better format for you?

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:04 PM (qcbvC)

387 Little SJW houses, for you and me. I waz born in a small town.
Posted by: John Menstrualcramp
------------

Yeah, swell, John. But did you hang around? Noooo...

Posted by: Diane at May 28, 2017 03:05 PM (ZO497)

388 Laughing at Mark Steyn's tribute to Moore. What fun! CoziTV (antenna channel) is running early Avengers with MacNee and Blackman. I personally can't stand facial 'beauty spots' because I find them distracting, but the lack of 'sexy' is so refreshing, I found myself following the plot.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 03:06 PM (MIKMs)

389 From Gates of Vienna:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybbc8w5g

That is an awesome photo and hashtag.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 03:06 PM (sdi6R)

390 Hopefully John McCain enjoys the full rich experience of a massive stroke.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2017 03:06 PM (4ErVI)

391 Lap 157 of 200 at Indy. Max Chilton in the lead. 7 cautions and 1 red flag so far. Flying car caused that red flag.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:07 PM (17QyB)

392 Little SJW houses, for you and me. I waz born in a small town.
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Little houses, on the hillside,
Little houses, made of ticky-tacky,
And they all look just the same.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 03:08 PM (MIKMs)

393
Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 28, 2017 03:00 PM (ZO497)

Hopefully, in the spirit of bipartisanship you give us your thoughts on 'manstruation' -- that uncomfortable time every month, when -- because of the stigma involved -- a male carries his book bag into the mens room, because of the snickers when a man carries menstrual items in his purse.

Posted by: John McCain at May 28, 2017 03:08 PM (HTdUD)

394 Milton Bradley won the Indy 500?

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at May 28, 2017 03:08 PM (Tyii7)

395 http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybbc8w5g

That is an awesome photo and hashtag.
Posted by: rickl
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Had to look up "autochthon".

Come for the books, stay for the vocabulary lesson.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:09 PM (ZO497)

396 Max Chilton in the pits, out of the lead lap 167. James Davison leading.

Caution, Charlie Kimball blew engine. Must be Honda, they're a bit fragile.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:11 PM (17QyB)

397 Is this new Axios web site a thing now? And can I trust it for "the truth,etc."?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 28, 2017 03:11 PM (e9G8E)

398 Flying car caused that red flag.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda
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I knew this would happen.

Posted by: George Jetson at May 28, 2017 03:11 PM (ZO497)

399 Yep, Honda.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:11 PM (17QyB)

400 392
Little houses, on the hillside,
Little houses, made of ticky-tacky,
And they all look just the same.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 03:08 PM (MIKMs)


I've been trying to think of a way to parody that song, but the original was about normal-sized suburban houses in the 1950s. The American suburbs were a triumph of capitalism, and the commies were belittling it and making it sound like a bad thing, while their comrades in the Soviet Union were living three generations deep in concrete apartment blocks.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 03:12 PM (sdi6R)

401 398 Flying car caused that red flag.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda
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I knew this would happen.
Posted by: George Jetson at May 28, 2017 03:11 PM (ZO497)

It was spectacular. Another car drove *under* him while he was in the air.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:12 PM (17QyB)

402
Caution, Charlie Kimball blew engine. Must be Honda, they're a bit fragile.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda
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Take my advice, don't say that on the ONT. The Honda fans will hunt you down, and burn your house.

Posted by: George Jetson at May 28, 2017 03:12 PM (ZO497)

403 Helio Castroneves was the under-driver. He's in 4th right now with a good shot to win.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:13 PM (17QyB)

404 It was spectacular. Another car drove *under* him while he was in the air.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda
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I saw a Can-Am car go airborne and turn a backward flip, at VIR.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:14 PM (ZO497)

405 397 Is this new Axios web site a thing now? And can I trust it for "the truth,etc."?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 28, 2017 03:11 PM (e9G8E)

Good question and I don't have an answer.

I had the same question when I started seeing lots of links to Grabien News. Who are they and who runs it?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2017 03:14 PM (4ErVI)

406 Take my advice, don't say that on the ONT. The Honda fans will hunt you down, and burn your house.
Posted by: George Jetson at May 28, 2017 03:12 PM (ZO497)

I've owned 4 Hondas - 3 Accords and a Pilot without major issue, so they can bring it. Honda went for power this year and have been blowing engines all month. 2 in the race so far, including the leader at the time.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:15 PM (17QyB)

407 Moscow, that's probably where they'll bury me.

Posted by: John Menstrualcramp at May 28, 2017 03:15 PM (Tyii7)

408 404 It was spectacular. Another car drove *under* him while he was in the air.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda
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I saw a Can-Am car go airborne and turn a backward flip, at VIR.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:14 PM (ZO497)

Spinning, backwards flip, on the wall, lands on roof, flip over, back half missing, and Scott Dixon got out and walked away. They were doing about 200 MPH at the time.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:16 PM (17QyB)

409 I've owned 4 Hondas - 3 Accords and a Pilot without major issue, so they can bring it. Honda went for power this year and have been blowing engines all month. 2 in the race so far, including the leader at the time.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda
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So much fuel/air being crammed in the cylinders they're probably on the edge of hydro-lock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:16 PM (ZO497)

410 Back on green 29 laps to go. This is where it gets good.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:17 PM (17QyB)

411 I've been trying to think of a way to parody that
song, but the original was about normal-sized suburban houses in the
1950s. The American suburbs were a triumph of capitalism, and the
commies were belittling it and making it sound like a bad thing, while
their comrades in the Soviet Union were living three generations deep in
concrete apartment blocks. Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 03:12 PM (sdi6R)
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I always thought it was perfect as is -- like 'Mr Pine's Purple House' of the same era. As people start getting creative, the self-righteous gotta make their bones. HOA writ large as a warning.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 03:18 PM (MIKMs)

412 Castroneves in 3rd. Missing part of his car from near miss earlier.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:18 PM (17QyB)

413 Castroneves on the outside, not quite gets the pass.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:20 PM (17QyB)

414 Sato in 4th, been running near front all day.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:21 PM (17QyB)

415 I just finished Norman Podhoretz's Ex-Friends, in which he dishes the dirt on people like Allen Ginsberg, Lillian Hellman and Norman Mailer. It's always a good time when we get an inside look at how trashy leftie intellectual icons can be. Meanwhile, I just started Theodore Roszak's Flicker (which recently was recommended here, possibly by OM himself) and can't put it down. Hope it doesn't disappoint.

Meanwhile, library sales can be a great source of cash if you're knowledgeable about books and, especially, book collecting. I've made tidy sums re-selling books that cost a pittance. Amazon works best for me, but I've also done some selling on eBay.

My best haul came from a church sale three years ago. I spent $13.75 and so far I've made $420+ on the books. I still have a few still listed at Amazon, and my expenses included a half-dozen books I gave to my grandsons.

Posted by: Outside Adjitator at May 28, 2017 03:21 PM (hbvkG)

416
Getting really sporty now with 24 to go...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 03:21 PM (4DCSq)

417 Got fingers crossed for Fernando

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:22 PM (qcbvC)

418 F'ity, f'ity,fk

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:23 PM (qcbvC)

419
Another! Honda up in smoke. Alonzo.

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 03:24 PM (4DCSq)

420 Castroneves on the outside again, gets the pass, now in 2nd. Sato passes *him*, Castroneves back to 3rd.

Caution, Fernando Alonso engine blew. Honda again. that's 3 today.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:24 PM (17QyB)

421 Alonso was one of the entertainingly aggressive drivers today.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:25 PM (17QyB)

422 Not many 'rookies' are world champions

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:26 PM (qcbvC)

423 The Hondas don't give *any* warning they're about to go. 100%, then 0.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:26 PM (17QyB)

424 Rookie won the 500 last year.

19 laps to go, under caution right now. This is going to be a sprint to the finish.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:27 PM (17QyB)

425 417 Got fingers crossed for Fernando
Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:22 PM (qcbvC)


I won't link the ABBA song. Thank me.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 03:29 PM (sdi6R)

426 Big crash. This might go red flag for a few.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:29 PM (17QyB)

427
Yikes! The Big One at Indy!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 03:29 PM (4DCSq)

428 3 cars, just coming out of the first turn in green.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:30 PM (17QyB)

429 Car got loose in the turn, took out 2 more.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:31 PM (17QyB)

430 Sorry, 4 cars total.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:32 PM (17QyB)

431
At least those two Hondas didn't blow up.

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 03:32 PM (4DCSq)

432 Rickl, dead and do encores with Knockin' in Vegas last night.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 28, 2017 03:33 PM (6leiI)

433 Axios' 'About' link spells out the dodgy stuff we already know most web sites typically do - at least they're up-front about it, so there's that... It's got a "mission statement", etc., and profiles of its writers if you want to research their political orientation and preferred pronouns! You can sign up for bespoke content and alerts... Seems legit...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 28, 2017 03:33 PM (e9G8E)

434 5 cars.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:34 PM (17QyB)

435 Ah, yes. The Turn One traffic jam. Been there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:34 PM (ZO497)

436 Add me to the list of those who can't stick with one book exclusively. The Wodehouse story got pushed aside this past week in favor of four Executioner novels that I first read in high school in the late '70s. I just love Pendleton's writing. (Couldn't cotton to the subsequent series.)

And in that same vein, the comics trades that I got from the library also are still sitting on the shelf, sidelined in favor of the latest "Steve Canyon" hardback reprint whose stories are slightly older than I am.

This doesn't even begin to reduce the backlog of TV shows on Hulu/Netflix that I plan to watch.

To paraphrase a line I read: If you were to give me twice as much free time starting tomorrow, I'd be hopelessly behind in a week.

The library is my crackhouse.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 28, 2017 03:35 PM (HRav7)

437 I'll bookmark Axios and just watch to see if they start posting opinion and rumour as "news"! I've not seen that yet...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 28, 2017 03:36 PM (e9G8E)

438
Sooo. Marco still has a chance?

An Andretti hasn't won here since '69.

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 03:36 PM (4DCSq)

439 Co

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 28, 2017 03:38 PM (6leiI)

440 Oh yeah --

As a former copy editor, I can tell a bunch of horror stories about misplaced modifiers.

I'd relate some now, but 5hat would further cut into my recent time.

Posted by: Weak Geek at May 28, 2017 03:39 PM (HRav7)

441 Last 10 laps. Sato tries to pass, Chilton holds him off. Castroneves trying to pass Sato, gets it, in 2nd.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:43 PM (17QyB)

442 And who are the two busts aside a scowling Beethoven? Chopin and ...?

The fellow on the left looks a bit like Schubert.

http://tinyurl.com/y7xepdx4

Thought the one on the right might've been Beethoven again.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at May 28, 2017 03:43 PM (PXbkt)

443 Castroneves in 1st! 7 laps to go.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:44 PM (17QyB)

444 Sato passes Chilton, in 2nd.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:44 PM (17QyB)

445 Sato in the lead, 5 laps to go.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:45 PM (17QyB)

446 I hate Castroneves, and most Brazilian drivers.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:45 PM (qcbvC)

447 White flag Sato, Castroneves in 2nd.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:48 PM (17QyB)

448 And I remember Sato as a crazy wrecking F-1 backmarker

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:48 PM (qcbvC)

449 Sato wins!

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:48 PM (17QyB)

450 I hate Castroneves, and most Brazilian drivers.
Posted by: Skip
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It's the Portuguese accent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:48 PM (ZO497)

451 Sato runs a Honda, BTW. Managed to keep that engine together, and it was noticeably more powerful than Castroneves Chevy.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 28, 2017 03:50 PM (17QyB)

452 There was something in the air that night!
The stars were bright!
Fernando!

You're welcome, rickl!
;-)

Posted by: qdp "ABBA fan" steve at May 28, 2017 03:50 PM (eMKNe)

453 Get back to me win they race in the rain, and at night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:50 PM (ZO497)

454 Food thread up.

Posted by: HH at May 28, 2017 03:51 PM (DrCtv)

455 Sato runs a Honda, BTW. Managed to keep that engine together, and it was noticeably more powerful than Castroneves Chevy.
Posted by: Vrag Naroda
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Uh, what was the gap at the finish? Double-digit Milliseconds?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:51 PM (ZO497)

456 You can sign up for bespoke content and alerts... Seems legit... Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 28, 2017 03:33 PM (e9G8E)
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I love the descriptor 'bespoke' content. Promptly stolen.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 03:51 PM (MIKMs)

457
Well at least Sato is on the Andretti team.

Pretty exciting race.

Next stop Charlotte...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 03:52 PM (4DCSq)

458 Mike -F-1 Montreal June 11

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:53 PM (qcbvC)

459 Next stop Charlotte...
Posted by: Spun and Murky
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Thank heavens! We'll be able to use the girl's room there.

Posted by: Tranny race fans at May 28, 2017 03:54 PM (zEM3F)

460 Mike -F-1 Montreal June 11
Posted by: Skip
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Different cars. They have to turn right, too.

Posted by: Tranny race fans at May 28, 2017 03:56 PM (zEM3F)

461 But if it rains they are still racing

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 03:57 PM (qcbvC)

462 But if it rains they are still racing
Posted by: Skip
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I was speaking of Indy only.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 03:58 PM (ZO497)

463 Hi there, just discovered the existence (via this thread) of the Goodreads group. Wooooo hoooo

Posted by: Lisl at May 28, 2017 04:00 PM (OAB5z)

464 But if it rains they are still racing
Posted by: Skip


Not always true. There have been rain delays at Indy, because it's an oval ( of sorts), not a road course.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 04:18 PM (9m4zl)

465 Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 28, 2017 03:33 PM (e9G8E)

Maybe I am thinking of something else. But IIRC when I saw your link to it, checked it out. Mostly ex Politico guys. ?

Posted by: gracepc at May 28, 2017 05:40 PM (OU4q6)

466 Every book you take
Every binding you break
Every loan that's late,
Every mark you make,
I'll be watching you.

Posted by: Sting at May 29, 2017 02:19 AM (V8zw+)

467 Modest copyright proposal:
- Automatic protection, no registration, for 15 years.
- At 15 years, option to renew protection for 5 more years for $500.
- Option to renew copyright in perpetuity, every 5 years. Each time you renew, cost doubles.

This protects all created material for a good amount of time, for free. It protects valuable properties longer, for pretty cheap (that 25th-anniversary edition just requires $1500 and some paperwork). If your company goes out of business (like a lot of retro video game companies), your properties don't languish forever in copyright purgatory. And as the years go on, more and more falls into public domain as the costs of registration outpace the profits for all but the most valuable properties. Thus the popularity of Mickey Mouse willnot forever keep the rest of creation out of the publicdomain.

Posted by: Stephen at May 29, 2017 02:17 PM (G1EML)

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