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OPEC to US: Please Help Us Improve the World Economy By Restricting Your Production of Oil
If you enjoy the spectacle of OPEC begging US oil producers to choke back the flow of oil to bail their asses out, then, as Instapundit says, you should hug a fracker.
Sexton goofs on OPEC's plea, reported by CNN Money:The report said that balancing the market would "require the collective efforts of all oil producers” and should be done “not only for the benefit of the individual countries, but also for the general prosperity of the world economy.” OPEC said that one producer in particular is to blame: The U.S., where shale producers have continued to ramp up their drilling despite lower crude prices. The increased production has undermined OPEC’s efforts to keep prices between $50 and $60 per barrel.Faces in want of a fist and mouths in want of My Dick. This is very wonderful news. That these bastards, who have long enjoyed extracting money from us by artificially restricting supply, and have used the Oil Weapon against us again and again, and have used their oil wealth to prop up communist regimes (see Venezeula) or fund terrorist groups (see most of the Gulf states) or to both prop up a communist regime and fund terrorist groups (see Russia) are now begging us to help them do these things by making ourselves poorer is... well it's just about the most beautiful thing I've read in a year. And who is again who is anti-fracking? And who is pro-fracking? And which side does Russia propagandize for? Right, they pay money to anti-fracking propaganda groups in order to get us to stop making so much oil. And the left supports that, and Trump opposes that (and supports fracking). Who's the communist agent of influence again? Dick Status: Plump and Bouncy. And not in a menacing, vulgar way, but in a happy, joyous way, like the Jamboree Bears at Disneyland dancing around and playing the banjo.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: kathysaysso at May 12, 2017 12:29 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: Ralph at May 12, 2017 12:29 PM (aTg6G)
Posted by: Golfman at May 12, 2017 12:30 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: dIb at May 12, 2017 12:30 PM (VJOLZ)
Posted by: Golfman at May 12, 2017 12:30 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2017 12:30 PM (PjWy4)
Posted by: Ralph at May 12, 2017 12:30 PM (aTg6G)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2017 12:30 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (ZQpd0)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Golfman at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Alex #11 at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (ka13S)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (uk/oG)
Anyway - delicious! THIS is the sort of thing that will hit the people who put Trump in the WH exactly the right way, if they hear about it.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (PjWy4)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 12, 2017 12:32 PM (eZ0Cd)
Posted by: Miyogi at May 12, 2017 12:32 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Golfman at May 12, 2017 12:32 PM (48QDY)
Trump should Tweet something something about OPEC and cockholsters.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:32 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2017 12:33 PM (P0Sw/)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 12, 2017 12:33 PM (eZ0Cd)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:33 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2017 12:33 PM (P0Sw/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:34 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Golfman at May 12, 2017 12:34 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: The Fracking Hat at May 12, 2017 12:34 PM (rUIbB)
Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 12, 2017 12:34 PM (ukNFU)
Posted by: hogmartin at May 12, 2017 12:34 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:35 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:35 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Golfman at May 12, 2017 12:35 PM (48QDY)
The bigger the boner the the more they squeal.
Trump ain't done with them by a damn sight.
Posted by: dananjcon at May 12, 2017 12:35 PM (WLK0w)
And which side does Russia propagandize for? Right, they pay money to anti-fracking propaganda groups in order to get us to stop making so much oil.
And the left supports that, and Trump opposes that (and supports fracking).
Who's the communist agent of influence again?
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This has been my line against the Trump is a Russian stooge argument for a while.
If he was a Russian stooge, he'd actually advance policies that help Russia, no? Killing fracking would probably be at the top of the list. It was probably at the top of Hillary's list, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:35 PM (mC1ZI)
I would like to see gas prices down. Which should happen - though a recovering/growing economy will normally prevent much in the way of price declines.
Energy abundance, not "independence", is the thing you want (the former implies the latter, for the US, anyway - though the "independence" concept still has no meaning, short of WWII-like controls over imports/exports/pricing).
Energy abundance.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2017 12:35 PM (PjWy4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: payaso at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (+wjl1)
The 1970's are calling, and they are telling you to SUCK IT BITCHES!
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Yup. I wasn't driving yet when the 1974 "oil crisis" happened, but I heard about people sitting in long lines for fuel. It happened again in 1979, but I worked a different shift and could get to my station when the lines were short.
$1.00 for gas in 1979 . . . how I dream about that coming back.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (uk/oG)
I'd summon the others, but the 'rons are in their bunks (Croatian prez).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:31 PM (PY9jH)
If I were Ace, I would give her a post. Twice.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:32 PM (PY9jH)
"Dear OPEC, Anta kalbee" works (translation: You are my dog)
Posted by: kathysaysso at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (PY9jH)
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It's because Ace puts you in a box and won't let you out, isn't it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: hogmartin at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (KP5rU)
To Market To Market, Jiggity Jig - a limerick
Ah, OPEC, that vile Gang of Twelve
Has oil reserves left on their shelves
If they still can't compete
Using their own crude sweet
Perhaps they should go frack themselves!
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: dananjcon at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (WLK0w)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (PY9jH)
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It's because Ace puts you in a box and won't let you out, isn't it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:36 PM (mC1ZI)
60 Shades of Grey
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: huerfano at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (TO4Og)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (a0IVu)
Yep. They never seem to think their arguments through.
Posted by: Golfman at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: HH at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (RD7QR)
Countdown to "I saw Jamboree Boners open for..." in
5...
4...
3...
2...
Posted by: hogmartin at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (eZ0Cd)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (MINbv)
Funny how Obama always seemed to be against the U.S oil companies, eh?
Posted by: HH at May 12, 2017 12:37 PM (DrCtv)
It's because AF One was fueled by unicorn farts and windmills.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (PY9jH)
*****
Come on Snerdley! Get Rush to read that one on the air. You know you want to.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 12:38 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2017 12:39 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Chris M at May 12, 2017 12:39 PM (eAZVt)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 12, 2017 12:40 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Tentotwo at May 12, 2017 12:40 PM (EgGV0)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 12:40 PM (udajc)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 12:40 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (mC1ZI)
The envirotards wept.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (2qHjF)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (rmVvL)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (fcf+0)
Posted by: huerfano at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (TO4Og)
If I didn't know better it is almost like Trump is playing the left to get this to happen. Trump is SMOD!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (npdX6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (PY9jH)
Energy abundance.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2017 12:35 PM (PjWy4)
I may be wrong, or we may be talking about two sides of the same coin. Abundant energy, or energy independence would drop prices correspondent with supply, no? A drop in prices means the Iranian mullahs and Saudi princes have less coin in the coffer to fund proxy wars and "religious" movements, i.e. terrorism, across the globe. Attack the terrorists by sucking all the funds out of their "bank."
Posted by: Alex #11 at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (ka13S)
And which side does Russia propagandize for?
This, Ace, is another excellent point.
Needs to be shouted from all points and all accounts.
It slices the undercarriage of every douche-canoe on the Left.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (udajc)
To heck with that. We leased to a driller who did good. We pump out the good stuff...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (rmVvL)
ME money financed the stupid Matt Damon/John Krasinki anti-fracking movie a few years ago.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: imp at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (XIXZz)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (rmVvL)
Why can't he just hiss like a snake like TFG?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (7ZVPa)
Soldier Field, September, 1990
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (UmSfZ)
You are a genius, Ace. We'll talk about the formatting for 100 posts!
...
Who is the fool - the fool or the fool who complains about the fool's formatting issues?
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Crusader at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (ewSN2)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (2qHjF)
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you rang?
Posted by: Hilary Rodham Clinton at May 12, 2017 12:44 PM (h/uSM)
80
I slight argument here, I don't recall the Jamboree Bears showing any genitalia during performances.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
Your memory is failing you. None of them wear any pants, so they are ALWAYS showing their genitalia. But they are bears.
Posted by: imp at May 12, 2017 12:44 PM (XIXZz)
Actually I'm just thinking about boobs, period.
Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at May 12, 2017 12:44 PM (/j4n5)
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 12, 2017 12:44 PM (YRHbj)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: KansasCJ at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (0CjmW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (IqV8l)
Your state and federal taxes are probably about 40 cents a gallon, so you mean $1.60. Add in the required environmental blending and the actual cost is probably more like $1.30, much lower than in years past when adjusted for inflation.
Gas is cheaper than bottled water. How hard is bottled water to permit explore, produce, refine, ship and sell?
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: zombie at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (DQ4Fv)
Who is the fool - the fool or the fool who complains about the fool's formatting issues?
Posted by: ace
Boxes are a lot like shelves, now that you mention it...
Posted by: imp at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (XIXZz)
Posted by: Mr. T at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (ukNFU)
ME money financed the stupid Matt Damon/John Krasinki anti-fracking movie a few years ago.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (NOIQH)
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Promised Land.
That embarrassment got memory holed really quickly.
I bet that if it hadn't been financed by ME oil money, Hollywood would have bent over backwards to get it nominated for Best Picture.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (8rNrN)
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embrace the power of AND
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 12, 2017 12:45 PM (bB4HN)
Actually I'm just thinking about boobs, period.
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Kolinda's a little heavy for my tastes, but still looks pretty good for her age, I guess.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (uk/oG)
You owe me a keyboard.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
After-hours show.
Just for the employees.
Hosted by Disney's head.
Not that one. The other one.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (udajc)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (dhEru)
And now he spends his days getting drilled.
Posted by: Crusader at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (ewSN2)
Posted by: zombie at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (a0IVu)
If only. Gas prices will go UP.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (SRKgf)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (a0IVu)
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Been hovering over $2 in SC for a while now.
I remember it hitting 1.80 and less a couple of years ago. Let's get that again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (vRcUp)
Actually I'm just thinking about boobs, period.
Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at May 12, 2017 12:44 PM (/j4n5)
Thinking? Hell I'm still looking. At every inch of her.
Nice stuff.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (kSzsx)
And now he spends his days getting drilled.
Posted by: Crusader at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (ewSN2)
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He didn't just say that, he made fun of a "dummy" who said that we could do it.
F that guy in particular.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (MINbv)
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You have to find the oil, drill for the oil, transport the oil thousands of mile, build the refinery, refine the oil, transport the gasoline and it costs $2.50 a gallon
Milk falls out of cow and costs $4 a gallon
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (3myMJ)
We've gone just as far as we can go
When Ace does the Disneyland tango
The Bear Jamboree
Would be out, swinging free
If not for a strategically-placed banjo
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (wPiJc)
Sounds like an excuse to raise the state gas tax again to pay for shit'n stuff but mainly for shit.
Posted by: Jerry Brown at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (t6XCL)
Posted by: OPEC at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (2z74n)
Seriously I think we should quadruple our Stratehic Oil Supply. That would probably put the price of oil at that sweet spot where it's good for everyone and would also act as a type of stimulus program.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (/BXzQ)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (uk/oG)
Heavy???
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 12, 2017 12:47 PM (vRcUp)
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I can't wait to see reports of the Sierra Club needing more money to keep up operations.
There will be no explanation why they're suddenly having trouble, but we'll all know.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (mC1ZI)
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Correct. We had to frack and drill our way out.
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (h/uSM)
Why can't he just hiss like a snake like TFG?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (PY9jH)
+++
Still laughing at your take on Hillary singing "Mamma's little baby loves shorten', shorten'..." to the infant, Chelsea.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (+eKyB)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: zombie at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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They are cutting back, but not by choice. Their tanker fleet is idled due to lack of maintenance, their leased tankers are being repossessed, and any tanker that leaves Venezuelan waters has to be scrubbed because of lack of maintenance at port facilities and loading terminals - so the hulls pick up oil such that they are not allowed in other ports.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: someone by a northern Georgia river at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (iWXmt)
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (h/uSM)
____________
That's no lie.
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (UmSfZ)
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (jjz86)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (a0IVu)
And doesn't that tax go up every year, adjusting for inflation or something?
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: fluffy at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (jw2Xw)
Posted by: OPEC at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (2z74n)
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The world might become a more peaceful place once the ME is less important overall.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (PY9jH)
Maybe do some exercises, some dick-ups or something.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Chris M at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (eAZVt)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (udajc)
Having a SoS who is an oil executive? Priceless! Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (NOIQH)
And Tillerson knows something about KSA that few bother to pay attention to--in the 1970s, when OPEC choked oil supply, the Saudis realized they were grain-dependent (oops) to the West and so set about irrigating the fucking desert with their non-renewable aquifers (like every other assbackward Muslim despot does at one time or another). Soon after, they were actually exporting wheat, bigly...until they used up a good part of their groundwater, the fucking idiots.
Now, their agriculture is shot, they're purchasing farmland in Africa and the US to grow feedgrain (alfalfa, which takes four times as much water as alternative livestock feed), and they're desalinating out of the Persian Gulf, which recirculates with the Indian Ocean much, much slower than it needs to to sustain desalination ops. Every day they're pumping more brine into the Gulf, the source of their drinking water. Water rationing is already in place.
They'll run out of freshwater before they run out of oil. And Zod doesn't care what Allah commands, you can't rehydrate by drinking crude.
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (zsHGH)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (uk/oG)
Heavy???
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Little thick in the waist and thighs. Just so you know, my vision of a MILF is Sofia Vergara.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (uk/oG)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (rmVvL)
Why can't he just hiss like a snake like TFG?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (PY9jH)
I'm sure there is someone in the media or a blogger saying he is doing that just like Character X from Harry Potter.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (a0IVu)
And doesn't that tax go up every year, adjusting for inflation or something?
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (Jcg9Q)
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"It's for the little people you fascist!"
-Dumb progressive who's mommy and daddy just don't get him
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (oZ6kz)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (PY9jH)
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"Not me. You."
-BHO
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (Jcg9Q)
Cost of compliance with the cap and trade program adds on to that as well and they keep adjusting that every year.
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: someone by a northern Georgia river
Banjo Dick is full of love and kindness. It's not here to f***; it's just here to donate blood to the local charity hospital.
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (h/uSM)
Nowhere near that in my universe.
*Texas, thank God*
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (Jcg9Q)
Milk falls out of cow and costs $4 a gallon
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90
About $1.50 here.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (IqV8l)
Poetry, sheer poetry!
Posted by: It's Me donna at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (kSzsx)
Posted by: Harry Reid, pederast at large at May 12, 2017 12:52 PM (oZ6kz)
They'll hide their boners and cross their knees
'Cause that's the way the jamboree
Teddy Bears have their picnic
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at May 12, 2017 12:53 PM (fcf+0)
There's no need to worry over it, unless you'd like to see that tax revenue now rather than later. Other states and cities will be gad to take up the slack.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 12:53 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 12, 2017 12:49 PM (/BXzQ)
I think we should keep a 5 year supply on hand.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:53 PM (Jcg9Q)
i've seen online that some pictures supposedly of this Croatian president are actually of 'CoCo Austin," Ice-T's live-in girlfriend (who I met and briefly interviewed about some movie and posted on the blog, ages ago).
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:53 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 12, 2017 12:54 PM (+aCe4)
I will say though, my energy stocks have taken it on the chin.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:54 PM (h1Tob)
Heh. Is T Boone Pickens still pushing the wind energy BS?
Of course, I will always have a soft spot for him for bankrolling the Swiftboat Vets to bring down Lurch in 2004.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 12:54 PM (OD2ni)
Ah, we're still talking oil, right? 'Cause a 5 year supply of boobehs ...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (MINbv)
I will say though, my energy stocks have taken it on the chin.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:54 PM (h1Tob)
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Put options, baby.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (mC1ZI)
Donald J. Trump President of the United States with Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
1 hr
China has agreed that the US will be allowed to sell beef, and other major products, into China once again. This is REAL news!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (PCof0)
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:51 PM (uk/oG)
Sofia's not exactly a toothpick either.
*not complaining*
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (Jcg9Q)
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/264751/
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (rmVvL)
*
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In clothing, she's attractive, very much like a brunette MILF I dated many years ago. She was probably a bombshell (both the Croatian lady and the one I knew) when she was young.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (uk/oG)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (BWL+E)
So why not go out with gusto!
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (+eKyB)
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:48 PM (h/uSM)
Nowhere near that in my universe.
*Texas, thank God*
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And i live in Pennsylvania. I would say we have a plethora of dairy cows.
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (kFnmp)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (ul9CR)
No, No, real news is Russia, Russia, investigation, Russia, Trump..get real!!
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (kSzsx)
I will say though, my energy stocks have taken it on the chin.
Posted by: Maritime
*fistbump
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (PCof0)
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/264751/
...
i'm going to post that. Matt Dowd is a nasty thumb. He is the opposite of Banjo Dick.
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:54 PM (h1Tob)
Anyone with *any* exposure to Chesapeake Energy knows exactly how you feel...
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (Bdeb0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3I-PVVowFY
Posted by: huerfano at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (TO4Og)
**The basic economic rules of supply and demand were never ol' Maxine's strong suit.
Yeesh.
Posted by: dananjcon at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (WLK0w)
Suck it. They just got beat with a bag of dicks being swung by Texas Roughnecks.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (WYzZJ)
Ugh ... that's going to give me nightmares.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (vRcUp)
Would you say you have a plethora of pinatas?
Posted by: Crusader at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (ewSN2)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (8rNrN)
There's no need to worry over it, unless you'd like to see that tax revenue now rather than later. Other states and cities will be gad to take up the slack.
Posted by: Meremortal
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I hear this analogy a lot, and I just don't buy into it.
I can't tell you how many liberals will say its a good thing for us not to drill in America in order to "save" the oil for later.
Meanwhile, we keep sending trillions to Saudi Arabia, Russia, Venezuela, etc.
We also don't know what oil is going to be worth in several decades, I could easily see most transportation being electric in the next 20 years.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (h1Tob)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 12:53 PM (3myMJ)
Politicians in blue cities and states will let their 5 year old boys get fucked in the ass by their Muslim friends before they'll ever agree to pump out one drop of that oil.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (Jcg9Q)
Poetry, sheer poetry!
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and the next Moron at Disneyland will break into hysterical bouts of deranged laughter during the show for no apparent reason....
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:58 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at May 12, 2017 12:58 PM (oZ6kz)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/1/saudi-aramco-takes-full-ownership-of-largest-us-oi/
Posted by: AbDULLah at May 12, 2017 12:58 PM (joFoi)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 12:58 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 12, 2017 12:58 PM (KP5rU)
Not a problem.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:59 PM (MINbv)
Satellite survey finds hidden forests all over the world.
to be fair the scientists couldn't see them because of all the trees
Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 12, 2017 12:59 PM (nFwvY)
Ah, we're still talking oil, right? 'Cause a 5 year supply of boobehs ...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 12, 2017 12:55 PM (MINbv)
Oil, yes.
I'd be happy with a week's supply of boobehs these days.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 12:59 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 12:59 PM (WYzZJ)
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You're going to need a pretty big can, we use 20 million barrels a day.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (h/uSM)
Cows, deer and bears outnumber people in central PA. Some may be on the voting rolls in Philly.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (BWL+E)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (kFnmp)
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i'll pass on the dueling banjos
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (h/uSM)
Am I the only one worried that this will lead to big losses for centrist Republicans in Congress own 2018?
Posted by: Eskimaux at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (Iz401)
Angular drilling. F them. Suck it right out from under them.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (PCof0)
Your use of thumb to describe these a-hole media types like Dowd, Stelter, and Egg McMuffin is one of the funniest things I have seen in a long time, It is so damn accurate.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (OD2ni)
There's no need to worry over it, unless you'd like to see that tax revenue now rather than later. Other states and cities will be gad to take up the slack.
Posted by: Meremortal
You have to feel a little sorry for the people who live just north of the Pennsylvania/New York border. Pennsylvania peeps are millionaires, paying off their own mortgages, paying off their kids mortgages, seeing the world with their fracking dollars.
New York residents?
*crickets*
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (HTdUD)
"We can't just drill our way out of this " once said a wise man.
Ah, yes! Just like they were saying it was futile to set up drilling in Anwar because it would take 10 years to start yielding oil - and that was, what, 20 years ago?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:01 PM (NOIQH)
Gas is still over $3 here in Cali and thanks for Moonbeam's new gas tax, it will stay there.
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 12:46 PM (a0IVu)
Believe it or not I can still find gas (regular) for $2.69 a gallon.
Posted by: YIKES! at May 12, 2017 01:01 PM (t6XCL)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 12:42 PM (rmVvL)
Like a... dog whistle?
Told ya so!
Posted by: CNN at May 12, 2017 01:01 PM (rUIbB)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 01:01 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: USA at May 12, 2017 01:01 PM (riF5p)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (kFnmp)
When it's not putting on a cape and mask and playing "Batman".
Apparently the man has quite the versatile schlong. A Utility Cock, if you will.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 12, 2017 01:01 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 12, 2017 01:01 PM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:54 PM (h1Tob)
Anyone with *any* exposure to Chesapeake Energy knows exactly how you feel...
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (Bdeb0)
Westport Fuel Systems Inc. (WPRT)
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (rmVvL)
several decades, I could easily see most transportation being electric
in the next 20 years.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (h1Tob)
Solar powered cars, that's what we need....and monorails ,Well sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
Electrified, six-car monorail
What'd I say? Monorail
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (kSzsx)
nah but they make these little harmonicas
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (8rNrN)
My brain simply refuses to process that image.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (RD7QR)
@SkyNewsBreak 3h
Some hospitals across England have reportedly been hit by a large-scale cyber attack and are reporting "significant problems"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (udajc)
Also, it is thankfully against the personal interests of the fracking companies.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Publius Redux at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (W0V08)
vulgar way, but in a happy, joyous way, like the Jamboree Bears at
Disneyland dancing around and playing the banjo.
Dicks and banjos are two words that shouldn't be combined. Didn't you see Deliverance?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (jxbfJ)
I can't wait to see them walk back their global warming bullshit
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:03 PM (WYzZJ)
Posted by: Marcus T
______
I'm holding most of mine, but I see it taking a LONG time to get back to where I was on them
I did so much better on just boring consumer staple stocks.
Chesepeake was one I took on the chin and am still holding. Also Energy Transfer Partners.
Truthfully, these companies look like bargains now but I'm more of an index fund investor now.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:03 PM (h1Tob)
Found a sweet Buddy Capps TPB on Craigslist...
:::makes Mr Burns hand motions:::
Ecksssssssellent!!!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 12, 2017 01:03 PM (dX0ot)
Posted by: The Main Ingredient at May 12, 2017 01:03 PM (P0Sw/)
vulgar way, but in a happy, joyous way, like the Jamboree Bears at
Disneyland dancing around and playing the banjo."
I endorse this message!
Posted by: Deliverance rapey guy at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (Fz5yy)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (BWL+E)
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (h/uSM)
They walk alike
They talk alike
They even hike the price alike
What a crazy pair.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (OD2ni)
Ouch.
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (Bdeb0)
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You're going to need a pretty big can, we use 20 million barrels a day.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 01:00 PM (7ZVPa)
We live in a big-ass country. Piece of cake.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius
heh, I thought about weaving that in, but didn't think anyone would get it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 01:04 PM (udajc)
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2017 01:05 PM (P0Sw/)
Solar powered cars, that's what we need....and monorails ,Well sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
Electrified, six-car monorail
What'd I say? Monorail
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (kSzsx)
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The oil probably won't last forever. It'll take a while to get to an actual peak oil point, but I do hope that something else comes along to replace it.
Hydrogen fuel cells seem nifty and could potentially replace gas.
Or small nuclear reactors? Or fusion reactors?
I just see how the ME has become so important to the world, and it's almost all because of oil that I don't want to see that replicated anywhere else. Or, God forbid, suddenly something goes wrong and the ME is the center of attention again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:05 PM (mC1ZI)
We're supposed to shed a bitter tear that some oil prince can't afford to finish building his skyscraper palace? Or that some other prince is going to have to settle for 5 Lamborghinis instead of the 7 he wanted? And have some of those profits find its way into terrorist hands? Piss up a rope.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2017 01:05 PM (jxbfJ)
'High speed rail'... you guys still thinking about that Croatian bathing suit picture?
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:05 PM (HTdUD)
Well, I got to spend much of the winter in Arizona, so there's that. But at the expense of depleting some savings.
But the oil business has long been boom or bust. I knew that going in. So take it in stride, I do.
(Places scare quotes around "disastrous", because it's really not. If I were 35, with a house mortgaged to the hilt, 2 young kids, and a bunch of expensive toys bought the never-never plan, it would be disastrous.)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (0deF2)
several decades, I could easily see most transportation being electric
in the next 20 years.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (h1Tob)
I doubt we will... electric cars are God-awful expensive to produce, their batteries are so polluting that they normally cannot even be made in the US and the require huge subsidies to be anywhere near attainable in price for the average person.
And I do not see cars being replaced by any technology anytime soon.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (fcf+0)
nah but they make these little harmonicas
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (8rNrN)
My brain simply refuses to process that image.
Posted by: joncelli
I wish mine had. :-(
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (PCof0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (eZ0Cd)
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (0mRoj)
Obama said electricity rates must "Necessarily Skyrocket". What a traitor.
Hillary promised to put coal miners out of business. Great move dummy.
I put a price of somewhere around $40-42/brl to be where Russia/Iran/Saudis etc are squeezed a little, and maybe have to choose less support for terror and war, and more effort feeding themselves and maintaining domestic stability. They were made too rich off oil we extracted, instead of developing a robust culture and a checks and balances government.
At $40-42 I think fracking starts to get squeezed ... they are getting better all the time ... something about microwave may work. Cheap energy is a good "redistribution of wealth" since it lets the little people keep more of their paycheck, and maybe start a small business more easily.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (TmCOq)
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (0mRoj)
Dig a big hole in the middle of the country to hold it. Right where Detroit and/or Chicago is.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (BWL+E)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (WYzZJ)
Posted by: This is CNN at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (npdX6)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (a0IVu)
We're supposed to shed a bitter tear that some oil prince can't afford to finish building his skyscraper palace? Or that some other prince is going to have to settle for 5 Lamborghinis instead of the 7 he wanted? And have some of those profits find its way into terrorist hands? Piss up a rope.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2017 01:05 PM (jxbfJ)
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I think we're supposed to shed a tear because these petro states won't be able to maintain their very expansive social welfare systems.
Because it's easier to make a populace happy with oil money than by getting them to find happiness by fending for themselves and creating their own wealth that's not tied to the only natural resource you have.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Chris M at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (eAZVt)
nah but they make these little harmonicas
Posted by: ace at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (8rNrN)
My brain simply refuses to process that image.
Posted by: joncelli
I wish mine had. :-(
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (PCof0)
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***Sad Tromboner*** - played by Ace's dick
Posted by: Certainly not buzzsaw90 at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: The Ghost of President 44 at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (Sda6L)
__________________
Somebody should make a commercial reminding American voters of all the idiotic things Obama has said.
But then again, it would end up being hours long, and who could afford to pay to run it?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 12, 2017 01:07 PM (riF5p)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (rmVvL)
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (kSzsx)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (udajc)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (PCof0)
Posted by: Karmic Justice at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (FTPVM)
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (OD2ni)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b90Cf6ARscc
Guy's life dream was to buy the entire animatronic band from a Chuck E Cheese and takes donations/requests to spend a few weeks programming the PLCs to have them play whatever song you want. Ace, get on this.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (8nWyX)
in the next 20 years.
And what do powerplants use to generate the electricity used to charge electric car batteries?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Ralph at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (lEhiV)
Problem is that people seem to have no idea about the scale of things and the practical impact/lack thereof.
"Terrorism" is also loosely used, so that true, AQ-type global conspiratorial multi-national terrorism (9/11) is lumped with the latest twist in long-running civil or tribal wars in the ME or Africa or central Asia. Most of these conflicts/etc will go on unchanged, whatever the price of oil.
And most AQ-style terrorism will go on/not go on, independent of oil prices or Gulf state GDPs.
Could there be some decrease in resources for bad guys? Sure. Material decreases (makes an actual difference, to us)? Doubtful.
In a way, the idea that lower oil prices will reduce the problems posed by things in the Islamic world is the analog to the thoroughly illiterate and incorrect conventional wisdom/"liberal" shibboleth that "poverty causes terrorism!!". Nope. As the best analysts of 9/11 and its aftermath have pointed out, the currents underlying all this madness long pre-dated the modern era of oil-based energy (and wealth).
But lower energy prices are good for everybody, something to seek and celebrate, but for economic reasons.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (PjWy4)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)
More batteries!
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (0mRoj)
Kristol, Frum or Brooks, since they're full of shit anyway.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (BWL+E)
Of course they would never take such a deal, but it would sure be fun to watch them squirm.
Posted by: Cal Naughton, Jr. at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (p8g4F)
And what do powerplants use to generate the electricity used to charge electric car batteries?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)
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Uranium? Can we use uranium? Or did Hillary sell all of it to Russia because she's very anti-Russia?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (WYzZJ)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper
Did that right after Christmas and got it for $1.07/gal.
Thank you 4X points for buying gift cards.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (PCof0)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (rmVvL)
And I do not see cars being replaced by any technology anytime soon.
Posted by: redbanzai
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Already, almost every car company has some electric car either in production or in the works, I think it will move faster than people think.
I don't really view it as a Left vs Right battle, I think it eventually will just make economic sense outside of any subsidies.
Fossil fuels will probably power electric cars via power plants running on natural gas, coal, etc but I could see gasoline consumption overall going way down.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (h1Tob)
And now?
Was he.....WRONG AGAIN??
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (RFeQD)
Right. There are a lot of well to do Chinese that crave American steaks to go with all of the California wine they import.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (OD2ni)
And what do powerplants use to generate the electricity used to charge electric car batteries?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)
More batteries!
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (0mRoj)
And after that it's Turtles, of course.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (p8g4F)
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (UmSfZ)
Posted by: Country Boy
States rights, no problem. They'll get voted out if and when citizens come to their senses. And if citizens don't, that's their right and problem.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2017 01:06 PM (TmCOq)
I've read in a couple places that some frackers claim they can make a profit on some fields at $30 a barrel now, and possibly even $20 a barrel.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Monty James at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (YY0GG)
And then keep on fracking.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (frZol)
Of course they would never take such a deal, but it would sure be fun to watch them squirm.
Posted by: Cal Naughton, Jr. at May 12, 2017 01:09 PM (p8g4F)
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I might go with:
"Sure, we'll stop as long as all ME countries make the financing of terrorism a crime punishable by death. Once we see some results of those policies, then we'll consider."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (TwwWO)
Trump oughta just tell the democrats - go ahead, draw up the articles of impeachment, I'll even pay your legal fees.
Give you a week, then we vote. I win, you shut the fuck up.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (HTdUD)
******
Tiny harmonicas.
Duh.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 01:12 PM (wPiJc)
while to get to an actual peak oil point, but I do hope that something
else comes along to replace it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:05 PM (mC1ZI)
That's the fear in KSA. Original oil-in-place there was 540 bn barrels (1970), down to 175 bn barrels in the Ghawar Field (60-65% of production), though the Saudis have claimed 260bn barrels (they're lying). Note also that domestic consumption has doubled since 2000.As Sheikh Zaki Yamani said back when, "the Stone Age didn't end for lack of stone, and the Oil Age will end long before the world runs out of oil."
He and his Bedouin brothers had better hope so.
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 01:12 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:12 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 01:12 PM (7ZVPa)
After all, unlike batteries those little bastards are easy and cheap to replace.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:12 PM (WYzZJ)
"It's called the blues dear, he's playing the blues"
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (UmSfZ)
Give you a week, then we vote. I win, you shut the fuck up.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum
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I like the idea of letting them do it so we can get this over with. I also think it would probably spike Trump's approval ratings.
Would expose a handful of Republicans once and for all.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (h1Tob)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (npdX6)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (+eKyB)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (1JnAL)
I guess you're nowhere near Mansfield, TX then.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (Jcg9Q)
Fossil fuels will probably power electric cars via power plants running on natural gas, coal, etc but I could see gasoline consumption overall going way down.
Watch the electric tax skyrocket when the reduction of fuel goes tits up.
Cities/states/feds are too dependent on tax revenue.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (PCof0)
Um, $2.00 a gallon right by the Holland Tunnel in NY.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (WYzZJ)
WOW! How does that happen?
Posted by: Ralph at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (lEhiV)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (le7jz)
Jamboree Bears at Disneyland dancing around and playing the banjo.
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"Capering about"
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (C52a9)
Coal probably is truly a fossil fuel, but there is some growing evidence that oil and gas are not, and might even be regenerating oil fields left idle, from natural processes below the Earth's mantle that create these liquid hydrocarbons.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (RFeQD)
I liked it better when this was part of the Money quote.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: Crusader at May 12, 2017 12:43 PM (ewSN2)
Croatian mail order brides can fly? Is there anything that Amazon can't do????
Posted by: cornbred at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (sig24)
Coal probably is truly a fossil fuel, but there is some growing evidence that oil and gas are not, and might even be regenerating oil fields left idle, from natural processes below the Earth's mantle that create these liquid hydrocarbons.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (RFeQD)
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That would be neat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 01:11 PM (Jcg9Q)
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Which is why the Saudis are freaking out right now.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (WYzZJ)
Posted by: cornbred at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (sig24)
_________
Well there's this harmonica trick...
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (UmSfZ)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (+eKyB)
For about 5 years, the niche it provided was "Place for ghetto baby-mamas to get into Worldstar fights."
Posted by: Hikaru at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (frZol)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (+eKyB)
What on earth is depressing about the thought of AtC swimming around in the ball pit with a balloon tied to her wrist so the emergency services can locate her?
Posted by: hogmartin at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (8nWyX)
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I paint this!!!!
I paint this with the Holy Virgin of Lourdes!
And the baked beans!
I paint this!!!
Posted by: Zombie Dali at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (0jtPF)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (LTHVh)
After all, unlike batteries those little bastards are easy and cheap to replace.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:12 PM (WYzZJ)
I have advocated that for years in upstate NY. Squirrels might make a suitable substitute...What do they do all day except run around. Of course PETA would hate the idea, and the poop could fertilize the pot growing fields..
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (kSzsx)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (RFeQD)
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That would be neat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (mC1ZI)
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Ive pointed out before that there are planets and moons in our sytems literally soaking in methane.
I wonder how that got there.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:17 PM (8XRCm)
artificially restricting supply, and have used the Oil Weapon against us
again and again, and have used their oil wealth to prop up communist
regimes (see Venezeula) or fund terrorist groups (see most of the Gulf
states) or to both prop up a communist regime and fund terrorist groups (see Russia) are now begging us to help them do these things by making ourselves poorer..."
Dems will be happy to cooperate with this request.
Posted by: Ripley at May 12, 2017 01:17 PM (1BQGO)
Ive pointed out before that there are planets and moons in our sytems literally soaking in methane.
I wonder how that got there.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:17 PM (8XRCm)
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Hadn't we settled on space cow farts?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:17 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (1JnAL)
I guess you're nowhere near Mansfield, TX then.
.
.
.I paid $1.91 the other day at Sams in Sherman TX.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 12, 2017 01:17 PM (le7jz)
Posted by: hogmartin at May 12, 2017 01:16 PM (8nWyX)
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Heh.... somethings will never quite die.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (8XRCm)
I wonder how that got there.
Posted by: fixerupper"
Space cows.
Posted by: Ripley at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (dX0ot)
Left to actual economic, engineering, and market preference influences, there'd hardly be a visible electric vehicle market (not that there is, anyway).
And nothing in sight to change any of the fundamentals.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (PjWy4)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (RFeQD)
Cities/states/feds are too dependent on tax revenue.
Posted by: rickb223
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Probably, I think some states are even talking about odometer readings to get that money.
When you look at how ridiculously complex modern internal combustion engines are to meet environmental standards, electric cars actually start looking like an easier way to make power. If some sort of bigger battery breakthrough comes along, it will come very quick
I'm a luddite, but I can see the writing on the wall
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (h1Tob)
Donald J. Trump President of the United States with Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
1 hr
China has agreed that the US will be allowed to sell beef, and other major products, into China once again. This is REAL news!
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Trump Threatens China With Hot American Beef Injection
#cnn
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (C52a9)
Rainbows. With unicorn treadmills as a backup.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (qJhUV)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (+eKyB)
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I haven't been to one for years, but the only thing that I liked about the place is that they sold beer
Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (38NCL)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:17 PM (mC1ZI)
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Udderly ridiculous.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (214Tp)
Posted by: Chris M at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (eAZVt)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 12:50 PM (7ZVPa)
They are also "cutting back" because the Chavistas have fired any competent people in the state-owned oil company, and replaced them with party hacks who know nothing about how to explore for and produce petroleum.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (0deF2)
For a goof, I put in what it would cost to have one installed at Casa de Puffy Scamper, and it was $60K. That does include the Tesla whole home battery, but not the $16K tax credit that I would get.
My hope is that this is just like HDTV's, in about 10 years a solar roof will cost about the same as a conventional roof does now.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (1JnAL)
Coal probably is truly a fossil fuel, but there is some growing evidence that oil and gas are not, and might even be regenerating oil fields left idle, from natural processes below the Earth's mantle that create these liquid hydrocarbons.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative
We talked about that last week or the week before.
Evidence that some previously sucked dry holes are refilling.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (PCof0)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative
Not so sure about that.
Fossil = mineralized remains aka calcium and similar compounds.
Coal = not calcium. Yes, no?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (udajc)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 01:13 PM (+eKyB)
Where childhoods go to die.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (0mRoj)
"By 2012, surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear..."
US Dept of Defense, 2008 and 2010.
Any day now, any way now
I shall be released
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (214Tp)
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If by PSA you mean feature length motion picture released into movie theaters across America, then you're right!
Matt Damon stars in Promised Land!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: White Magic Woman at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (SJ184)
Who ever is giving this speech before the press conference is hitting it out of the park re islamic terrorism. Wow.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (HTdUD)
You would take a zit-faced teenager in a cheap-ass bear suit Chuck E. Cheese Bear
You'll get a mangy Ewok with a tiny harmonica
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (wPiJc)
OT
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Health: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/ruth-bader-ginsburg-health-age-net-worth/
1. She's the Oldest Supreme Court Justice
2. She's Had Cancer Twice, Plus Heart Problems
3. Her Workout Almost Crushed a 27-Year-Old Reporter
4. She Likes Being Notorious RBG
5. She Doesn't Need the Money
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (fceHP)
#cnn
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (C52a9)
Haha! I think its funny - this coming right after Obama scolds us all about consuming too much beef!
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (+eKyB)
The Bakken in North Dakota has been known about since the 70s. Technology now makes it possible to exploit it.
Posted by: The Jackhole at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (M+Lyo)
When I think cheap, renewable source of energy I think hamster wheels.
After all, unlike batteries those little bastards are easy and cheap to replace.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 12, 2017 01:12 PM (WYzZJ)
Plus, they are plug and play!
Posted by: Richard Gere at May 12, 2017 01:21 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2017 01:21 PM (rwqWc)
that oil and gas are not, and might even be regenerating oil fields
left idle, from natural processes below the Earth's mantle that create
these liquid hydrocarbons.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at May 12, 2017 01:14 PM (RFeQD)
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That would be neat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (mC1ZI)
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Ive pointed out before that there are planets and moons in our sytems literally soaking in methane.
I wonder how that got there.
.
.
.Abiotic oil and it is well within the realm of possibility.
And yes there is methane and CO2 present all over the Solar System which indicates there are organic processes going on out there. It literally rains liquid methane on Saturn's moon Titan.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 12, 2017 01:21 PM (le7jz)
Same with nat gas vehicles.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:21 PM (PCof0)
There was BLOOD on the saddle,
There was BLOOD on the ground...
That's about as far as they let it get...
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 12, 2017 01:21 PM (L/e6x)
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Trump increases one of the most potent greenhouse gasses by exporting beef. Our upcoming expert on beef and Constitutional crisis will explain why Trump must be impeached.
Posted by: This is CNN at May 12, 2017 01:22 PM (npdX6)
Naked Keanu Reeves
Posted by: The Matrix at May 12, 2017 01:22 PM (3I7wr)
Her workout?? What workout - she can barely stay propped upright!
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 01:22 PM (a0IVu)
OT
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Health: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/ruth-bader-ginsburg-health-age-net-worth/
1. She's the Oldest Supreme Court Justice
2. She's Had Cancer Twice, Plus Heart Problems
3. Her Workout Almost Crushed a 27-Year-Old Reporter
4. She Likes Being Notorious RBG
5. She Doesn't Need the Money
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (fceHP)
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She's very old, but apparently fairly healthy.
According to the actuarial tables, an 84 year old woman is predicted to live another 7.42 years.
Don't hold your breath.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:22 PM (mC1ZI)
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...who?
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:23 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 01:23 PM (7ZVPa)
You should see the methane coming off Uranus!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:23 PM (PCof0)
10 years a solar roof will cost about the same as a conventional roof
does now.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (1JnAL)
Stay away from investing in solar roadways...Many YouTube videos will tell you its not feasible. No way a roadway, flat on the ground, being driven over by all sorts of cars, trucks etc, with dirt could ever produce much of anything.
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:23 PM (kSzsx)
There was BLOOD on the ground...
That's about as far as they let it get...
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 12, 2017 01:21 PM (L/e6x)
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*cough*
*cough*
Posted by: John Couagar Mellencamp Dipshit Extrordinaire at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (8XRCm)
And don't get me started on Uranus.
Posted by: Crusader at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (ewSN2)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (TwwWO)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac
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I could see solar just becoming like a normal appliance on people's home once it actually starts making economic sense. Like you pay $6k for a system and it "pays you back" in like 5 years.
Right now, it's completely floating on state and federal subsidies. It's like $20k and takes 20 years to break even, in which case the system will have long since been replaced.
Most people would be FAR ahead just making some simple changes to reduce energy waste, but they don't get the virtue signaling like a roof full of solar panels.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (h1Tob)
Posted by: C3Po at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (TwwWO)
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Tina Turner?
Two men enter one man leave.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (mC1ZI)
You'll get a mangy Ewok with a tiny harmonica
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (wPiJc)
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I paint this!
I paint this!
With blessed St. Sebastian!
And the baked beans!!!
Posted by: Zombie Dali at May 12, 2017 01:25 PM (0jtPF)
Right now, it's completely floating on state and federal subsidies. It's like $20k and takes 20 years to break even, in which case the system will have long since been replaced.
Most people would be FAR ahead just making some simple changes to reduce energy waste, but they don't get the virtue signaling like a roof full of solar panels.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (h1Tob)
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I've read that the loans are a pain to transfer from the original owner to another in a house sale.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:25 PM (mC1ZI)
Free advice: don't revisit the Sears catalog bra pages as an adult either. Your penis will cry, and not the powerful thick mucosy tears of exuberance, but the bitter salty tears of a shattered memory.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 12, 2017 01:25 PM (dX0ot)
Posted by: Killerdog at May 12, 2017 01:26 PM (U8/Gk)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:08 PM (NOIQH)
Hope and change
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2017 01:26 PM (493sH)
Geez dood. They'll produce at night when there is very little traffic!
/s
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:26 PM (PCof0)
Evidence that some previously sucked dry holes are refilling.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:19 PM (PCof0)
It's no surprise as methane and ethanol are produced by many natural and "green" processes. A little heat and pressure and you can have some longer carbon chain molecules.
Now where could we find a sustained source of heat and pressure lasting millions of years?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2017 01:26 PM (tbOMB)
Thank you 4X points for buying gift cards.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (PCof0)
I do it every month. If we are going someplace that I can use a gift card, I stop and get some at Kroger. Home Depot, IHOP, Fapplebees, Ruby Tuesday, Lowes, and of course birthdays, Mother's day, Father's day. Hell, when we go to the beach, I grab a few Shell and BP cards to use down there.
I also don't like putting my credit/debit cards into gas pumps.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at May 12, 2017 01:26 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2017 01:26 PM (ZcAbN)
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 12, 2017 01:27 PM (C52a9)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (h1Tob)
And whence comes the electricity to run it all?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:27 PM (0deF2)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:27 PM (TwwWO)
Added bonus: muzzie nations with thin wallets are less troublesome to their neighbors (and the world at large).
Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 12, 2017 01:27 PM (Quwsn)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (kFnmp)
Pissing match - Dueling Banjos.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at May 12, 2017 01:27 PM (jjz86)
OT
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Health: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/ruth-bader-ginsburg-health-age-net-worth/
1. She's the Oldest Supreme Court Justice
2. She's Had Cancer Twice, Plus Heart Problems
3. Her Workout Almost Crushed a 27-Year-Old Reporter
4. She Likes Being Notorious RBG
5. She Doesn't Need the Money
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (fceHP)
And drinks formaldehyde to maintain her youthful appearance.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (jxbfJ)
And don't get me started on Uranus.
Posted by: Crusader
Titan Uranus?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (PCof0)
energy waste, but they don't get the virtue signaling like a roof full
of solar panels.
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"Coal Doesn't Live Here"
Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (C52a9)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (npdX6)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:27 PM
Coal is solar power what works at night
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (ZQfW9)
She just needs her naps, eh? How many times has she been caught snoozing in public?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (NOIQH)
Im waitning for some 14 year old third generation dot Indian kid to invent cold fusion and solve the worlds energy problem.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:29 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:29 PM (kSzsx)
My dick wants to play the banjo but the bears won't let it. Russian bears not San Francisco bears.
Posted by: Sphynx at May 12, 2017 01:29 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: cornbred at May 12, 2017 01:15 PM (sig24)
Not fund lefty organizations?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2017 01:29 PM (493sH)
>>
385
Im waitning for some 14 year old third generation dot Indian kid to invent cold fusion and solve the worlds energy problem.
Posted by: fixerupper
Have you taken a good look at my clock?
Posted by: Muslim Clock Boy at May 12, 2017 01:29 PM (OZmbA)
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A black hole?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (npdX6)
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I have a theory that Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome is actually about how religious societies are better places than secular ones.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:29 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: rickb223
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I'm not saying it can't be happening, but remember that even the best extraction rates are about 60 percent, and if you cap a well, remaining oil in the pocket is going to eventually migrate back to where the dry cavity is.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I can imagine. Any homebuyer with a lick of sense and their mortgage lender will demand a clear title and that existing liens are paid off from the sellers proceeds.
Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 12:57 PM (h1Tob)
And whence comes the electricity to run it all?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Natural gas, coal, nuclear. Like what they run on now.
How many power plants in the US do you know that run on gasoline/oil?
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (h1Tob)
*****
Whenever the Colorado Rockies run a promotional spot touting their solar panel array as green and sustainable I ask myself, "Why not just play day games?"
Posted by: Muldoon at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: C3Po at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (LTHVh)
Im waitning for some 14 year old third generation dot Indian kid to invent cold fusion and solve the worlds energy problem.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:29 PM (8XRCm)
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Keanu fixed that in the mid 90s.
Jeez. Where have you people been?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (mC1ZI)
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A black hole?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:28 PM (npdX6)
Worth considering . . .
Posted by: Don Lemon at May 12, 2017 01:31 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Fritz at May 12, 2017 01:31 PM (TNQMS)
It is too much for their indoctrination to comprehend and the old cognitive dissonance kicks right in. Soon I am worse than Hitler.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:31 PM (npdX6)
It is too much for their indoctrination to comprehend and the old cognitive dissonance kicks right in. Soon I am worse than Hitler.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:31 PM (npdX6)
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What about nuclear?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:32 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: no good deed at May 12, 2017 01:32 PM (hJamr)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
And it makes liberals cry
Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2017 01:33 PM (TVGgO)
Sean Spicer and the hair on fire press crew prepare for combat in a few minutes.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:33 PM (HTdUD)
Posted by: fixerupper
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What's funny is I think the eco greenies would be PISSED if we had basically free energy with no waste or by product.
They only really care about the regulation and anti-capitalism effect of environmentalism, it's not actually about clean energy.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:33 PM (h1Tob)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 12, 2017 01:33 PM (kBuGL)
176 Ace's dick plays the banjo?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2017 12:56 PM (kFnmp)
Pissing match - Dueling Banjos.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at May 12, 2017 01:27 PM (jjz86)
Ohhh, sword fight!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's Shaved Netherworld at May 12, 2017 01:34 PM (jxbfJ)
They only really care about the regulation and anti-capitalism effect of environmentalism, it's not actually about clean energy.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:33 PM (h1Tob)
The Left: Why it's like you can read our mind
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2017 01:34 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Mst3k at May 12, 2017 01:34 PM (SbaWv)
Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2017 01:34 PM (TVGgO)
And drinks formaldehyde to maintain her youthful appearance.
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That's a lie.
Everyone knows that she, like Hillary!, drinks the blood of babies sacrificed in the soundproofed rooms under Comet Pizza.
Posted by: shibumi at May 12, 2017 01:34 PM (8zWAk)
2. I know, let's trash that, and all the engineering expertise and investment that goes along with it, and convert to electric vehicles where you'd have to plan you cross country trip with the Tesla app to tell where the next charging station on your route, or close to it.
3. Profit$$
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2017 01:34 PM (gwPgz)
home once it actually starts making economic sense. Like you pay $6k for
a system and it "pays you back" in like 5 years.
Right now, it's completely floating on state and federal subsidies.
It's like $20k and takes 20 years to break even, in which case the
system will have long since been replaced.
Most people would be FAR ahead just making some simple changes to
reduce energy waste, but they don't get the virtue signaling like a roof
full of solar panels.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:24 PM (h1Tob)
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I've read that the loans are a pain to transfer from the original owner to another in a house sale.
.
.
.A buddy of mine almost got locked into that stuff with Solar City. He lives in New England and they are pushing hard up there because they get both Federal and State subsidies.
It is a 20 year contract that is transferable if you sell you house. The catch is the new buyer has to sign onto your original contract no matter how many years are left. You can also buy out your contract prorata to get the lein cleared but they wouldn't directly tell him how much that would cost.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (le7jz)
Posted by: Eggo at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (4RuLv)
I swear I write at least 100 patent applications for fuel cell technology back in the 90's since "fuel cells will be powering everything in ten years." About that...
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (OD2ni)
http://bit.ly/2ralaOy
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (LTHVh)
But, yeah - coal, natural gas, hydro are the biggies. Wish we'd gone nuclear with the power grid a while ago. Would have made the world a better place.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (TwwWO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:32 PM (mC1ZI)"
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Sure but there is the waste. The new little reactors take care of that and are fail safe. That is why the environmentals bought by OPEC hate them.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (npdX6)
And now here we are, thanks to market forces and no help from the govt, on the edge of major energy turnaround if not ultimate dominance. And yet I'm programmed by sad experience to expect the GOP to snatch defeat from victory's jaws. Why can't I be hopeful? Damn them!
But this delightful Saudi squeal has given me a momentary flash of pleasure. I will treasure it always, come what may.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (7A6l6)
I think the Science is settled on this.
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2017 01:36 PM (P0Sw/)
Seas of methane, not surprising to find at all under the proper temperature and pressure. (surface has to be about 200 below zero, as I recall) Seas of gasoline would be incredibly improbable.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2017 01:36 PM (p8g4F)
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:33 PM (HTdUD)
I can imagine Sean and Sara giving a joint press conference. The "reporters" heads would explode, and fill the pressroom with a foul smell.
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:37 PM (kSzsx)
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell
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I remember Obama's energy plan for $4 a gallon gas was putting more air in your tires and this was treated as a serious plan by the MSM
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:37 PM (h1Tob)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 12, 2017 01:38 PM (nN3W/)
That's not a nap!! It's just a really long blink!!
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 12, 2017 01:38 PM (dX0ot)
Ruth looks like she should be sitting in the fruit cellar at the Bates residence.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:38 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 12, 2017 01:38 PM (eZ0Cd)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 12, 2017 01:38 PM (nN3W/)
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I could die a happy man if that was a Trump Tweet.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 01:38 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Ruth Bader Ginsburg at May 12, 2017 01:39 PM (LTHVh)
Restricting supply and making the poor poorer is the way to go.
- things Adam Smith said in the Wealth of Nations
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2017 01:39 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Barky O'Divot at May 12, 2017 01:39 PM (vtcmf)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
so really all you need is an exceptionally dumb buyer that has an exceptionally dumb mortgage company.
Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 12, 2017 01:39 PM (nFwvY)
Sod the fuck off, dillholes.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2017 01:40 PM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:40 PM (npdX6)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:40 PM (TwwWO)
Posted by: Dhimmi Snowflake at May 12, 2017 01:40 PM (vtcmf)
>> Evidence that some previously sucked dry holes are refilling.
I think the Science is settled on this.
Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2017 01:36 PM (P0Sw/)
Yes, it has to do with porosity and it's limitations. The reason fracking works is because it greatly expands the effective porosity of the target formation, and allows fluids to move much more easily in the fracked zone. One common play going on today is to reopen old wells that were PA'd in the 80's and 90's for having gone dry, putting a frack job on them, and putting them back into production.
And it's good to remember that with respect to a wellbore, "dry" is always an economic term, not a scientific one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2017 01:41 PM (p8g4F)
I just looked into my duffle bag from past deployments to the Persian Gulf and September 11th and found a great big "F*CK YOU" especially for you.
Don't be shy. I have plenty to share with all of your buddies.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Tom Servo
Gas is a refined product. Have yet to see a single abiotic conjecture regarding that.
Abiotic is still conjecture and not one that has a good underlying geological basis, but still, gas? No. No one is suggesting that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (udajc)
And, Spicer is on.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Emma Watson at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:33 PM (h1Tob)
It IS for the true believers, but that is why they are so easy to manipulate by the lefty establishment.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (tbOMB)
Sod the fuck off, dillholes.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2017 01:40 PM (B+qrE)
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"I hate misogyny. I hate Russia. I hate cultures that treat women as second class citizens.
I also hate oil and think it should be as expensive as possible.
I also think that poor people need help from government.
Why no, I have never tried to relate these completely unrelated things together. Why do you ask?"
-Very smart college student who just spent the last hour crying because her dad said he would stop paying for college if she changed majors to gender studies
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (TOk1P)
I'm a luddite, but I can see the writing on the wall
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:18 PM (h1Tob)
Really, they are pretty simple, now. Most of the "complexity" is the firmware in the ECU. And the "environmental standards" are an artificially-imposed externality.
There is not enough electrical generating capacity extant to meet more than a tiny fraction of the transportation energy needs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (0deF2)
Pretty hilarious watching them flail and try to twist things...
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (8iiMU)
1. Make a product that costs 3 times what your competitor is selling their on the market.
2. Compete with your cheaper competitor by selling your product at a dramatic loss.
3. PROFIT!!!!
Wyle E. Obama
Super Genius
Have Brain Will Travel
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (npdX6)
Pretty hilarious watching them flail and try to twist things...
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (8iiMU)
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I'm predicting an early night.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (mC1ZI)
Already, almost every car company has some
electric car either in production or in the works, I think it will move
faster than people think.
I don't really view it as a Left vs Right battle, I think it eventually will just make economic sense outside of any subsidies.
Fossil fuels will probably power electric cars via power plants
running on natural gas, coal, etc but I could see gasoline consumption
overall going way down.
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:10 PM (h1Tob)
Those cars are only feasible because of government subsidies and most people still do not buy them because of the price relative to the comparable gas model.
That technology would have already died from lack of customers if the government were not giving companies billions of dollars to propogate it.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (FTXAT)
OT: The "slow negative rep" when lifting weights is very cool, loving it.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (nN3W/)
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (FTXAT)
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (FTXAT)
I typically latch them shut. To each their own.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (8iiMU)
When Sara was on yesterday, for some reason the reporters in the front rows looked smaller and more insignificance than usual. Maybe it that school teacher look she give them with a ruler in her hand, ready to crack there knuckles.
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (kSzsx)
Posted by: Emma Watson at May 12, 2017 01:42 PM (OD2ni)
So do we.
Posted by: Hetero Actors of Hollywood, All 9 of Us at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)
There is not enough electrical generating capacity extant to meet more than a tiny fraction of the transportation energy needs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (0deF2)
Precise-a-mundo!
And not cheap to fix. We need to spend a lot right now just to keep up with population and energy-use growth before adding electric cars to the mix.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (3myMJ)
1. Make a product that costs 3 times what your competitor is selling their on the market.
2. Compete with your cheaper competitor by selling your product at a dramatic loss.
3. PROFIT!!!!
Wyle E. Obama
Super Genius
Have Brain Will Travel
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (npdX6)
This.
The taxpayer has taken it hard in the shorts because lefties hate petroleum.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (FTXAT)
Fossil = mineralized remains aka calcium and similar compounds.
Coal = not calcium. Yes, no?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 12, 2017 01:20 PM (udajc)
Fossil: any identifiable remnant of once-living stuff. Some fossils are original organic material, and some have been replaced wholly or in part by minerals. Some fossils are just molds or casts. Dino tracks are "trace fossils".
Look at coal under a 20-power microscope. Often the grain of the original wood can be seen.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:47 PM (0deF2)
customers if the government were not giving companies billions of
dollars to propogate it. Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (FTXAT)
Electric car technology is a fillip pursued by car companies to demonstrate modernity and guard their flank against enviro types. Nobody wants to be the sole producer who *doesn't* have a Jetsons model available (even if they don't sell).
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 01:47 PM (Bdeb0)
You would take a zit-faced teenager in a cheap-ass bear suit Chuck E. Cheese Bear
You'll get a mangy Ewok with a tiny harmonica
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but first you will blow me (second too!)
Posted by: Dick Harmonica at May 12, 2017 01:47 PM (PNcou)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:47 PM (TwwWO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2017 01:47 PM (BWL+E)
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (FTXAT)
I typically latch them shut. To each their own.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (kBuGL)
:-)
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:48 PM (FTXAT)
And it's good to remember that with respect to a wellbore, "dry" is always an economic term, not a scientific one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2017 01:41 PM (p8g4F)
Not quite
It has more to do with the permeability of the formation and formation damage caused during the drilling (or other completion and production) activities. It is possible to cause near wellbore damage to the formation that restricts the flow of fluids from the formation into the wellbore. By pumping a frac job, you create a conductive pathway past the damage that allows the wellbore to communicate with the reservoir.
Posted by: the real ch3 at May 12, 2017 01:48 PM (IG5KL)
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (kSzsx)
I got a knuckle that bitch can crack ...
Posted by: Roseanne Barr at May 12, 2017 01:48 PM (kBuGL)
Something for Ace.
This is really worth a watch, if you haven't already. Almost 3 hours long.
HyperNormalisation 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fny99f8amM
HyperNormalisation is a 2016 BBC documentary by British filmmaker Adam Curtis. In the film, Curtis argues that since the 1970s, governments, financiers, and technological utopians have given up on the complex "real world" and built a simple "fake world" that is run by corporations and kept stable by politicians. The film was released on 16 October 2016 on the BBC iPlayer.
The term "hypernormalisation" is taken from Alexei Yurchak's 2006 book Everything was Forever, Until it was No More: The Last Soviet Generation, about the paradoxes of life in the Soviet Union during the 20 years before it collapsed. A professor of anthropology at the University of California, Berkeley, he argues that everyone knew the system was failing, but as no one could imagine any alternative to the status quo, politicians and citizens were resigned to maintaining a pretence of a functioning society. Over time, this delusion became a self-fulfilling prophecy and the "fakeness" was accepted by everyone as real, an effect that Yurchak termed "hypernormalisation"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation
A lot of food for thought.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 12, 2017 01:48 PM (fceHP)
catch is the new buyer has to sign onto your original contract no
matter how many years are left. You can also buy out your contract
prorata to get the lein cleared but they wouldn't directly tell him how
much that would cost.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
so really all you need is an exceptionally dumb buyer that has an exceptionally dumb mortgage company.
.
.
.I seriously doubt any mortgage company would touch it and I am pretty sure that's why they wouldn't answer his direct questions about the buy out.
Also if you want your house to be able to have power during a blackout you have to buy a battery backup system. I think they said that was another $6,000 on top of the initial costs. Apparently if there is a power outage the system shuts down to protect the electric company workers.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 12, 2017 01:49 PM (le7jz)
I'm sure they would LOVE to equate him with Nixon.
And Spicer keeps saying, "I have nothing more to add to that tweet."
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2017 01:49 PM (8iiMU)
Grew up in coal country, and hardly a house that didn't have a small bit of branch or root - identifiable as such - made of coal. Really neat stuff.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:49 PM (TwwWO)
Meantime, we gonna keep on fracking baby.
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 12, 2017 01:49 PM (ZeVko)
Just do away with the dispensation from fines for killing bald eagles, and add a fine for killing bats.
The End.
(Bats do more for healthcare and disease control than the government ever will.)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:49 PM (3myMJ)
PGE came by the door, they sent this tattooed girl with studs in her face to tell me why we should pay more for our electricity. They have a program where you can prefer "alternate" energy production like wind and solar. But all it does is just raise your rates, its not like there's a special wire that comes to your home with different energy on it. Its like the treasury: it all goes into the same system, there's no "green" electricity line.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2017 01:50 PM (39g3+)
There is not enough electrical generating capacity extant to meet more than a tiny fraction of the transportation energy needs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Disagree completely
the elaborate mechanical designs, amount of sensors, cooling systems, aerodynamics, exhaust, transmissions speeds, direct fuel injection, turbochargers, on and on all to reach silly arbitrary mpg and emissions standards. And it'e getting worse.
It's why companies like VW got caught cheating, they simply couldn't do it all despite being one of the largest car companies on Earth.
And Obama's ridiculous mandates made things even worse.
Hopefully Trump can neuter nonsense like CAFE and bring some common sense back
The next CAFE number is 54.5 mpg for a car fleet. No way on Earth we can reach that unless everybody drives a golf cart
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:50 PM (h1Tob)
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You guys need to clean it up. What do you think this is? Letters to Penthouse Forum?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 12, 2017 01:50 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (0deF2)
Generation capacity is a challenging hill. Adequate storage is the real mountain to climb.
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 01:51 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at May 12, 2017 01:51 PM (5JlYa)
reporters in the front rows looked smaller and more insignificance than
usual. Maybe it that school teacher look she give them with a ruler in
her hand, ready to crack there knuckles.
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:46 PM (kSzsx)
She appears to be built for comfort, not for speed.
Posted by: Raging Heterosexual at May 12, 2017 01:51 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2017 01:51 PM (dnWSK)
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obviously we'll get more energy when we replace those huge propellers with huge jet turbines!
Posted by: Dick Harmonica at May 12, 2017 01:51 PM (PNcou)
...
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at May 12, 2017 01:35 PM (7A6l6)
As if on cue, the calls for a higher gas tax from "conservative" economists begin:
https://tinyurl.com/lrag7nn
Posted by: cornbred at May 12, 2017 01:51 PM (sig24)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:50 PM (h1Tob)
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We talked about this at work today. Small Iowa towns are permitting them as daily transportation more and more. Hell I'd have one if I could, if only just to run to the Quickie Mart for smokes and stuff like that.
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:52 PM (UmSfZ)
Guess who else liked to make gas from coal?
http://tinyurl.com/mdebscr
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2017 01:52 PM (gwPgz)
Just do away with the dispensation from fines for killing bald eagles, and add a fine for killing bats.
The End.
(Bats do more for healthcare and disease control than the government ever will.)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:49 PM (3myMJ)
That would be good but not necessary. Remove federal subsidies and wind farms would disappear.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (FTXAT)
If I didn't know better it is almost like Trump is playing the left to get this to happen. Trump is SMOD!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 12:41 PM (npdX6)
donTrump's long game. He's spent the better part of his life negotiating with the "Families" in order to build in NY and NJ. These congress critters aren't that tough.
It's not difficult to envision him laying long loose rabbit snares all over Washington. Patience, is the hunter's virtue.
Posted by: gNewt at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (2d71x)
That would be good but not necessary. Remove federal subsidies and wind farms would disappear.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (FTXAT)
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Like, they'd just vanish from the earth?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Lord Sir x at May 12, 2017 01:39 PM (nFwvY)
Lord knows there aren't any of them around.
Do I really need a snark tag?
Posted by: Country Boy at May 12, 2017 01:54 PM (Jcg9Q)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (h1Tob)
Actually, Diesel generation is done in small towns in Alaska and northern Canada, and as backup nearly everywhere.
But natural gas is also a "petroleum" resource.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:54 PM (0deF2)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2017 01:54 PM (dnWSK)
Posted by: eleven at May 12, 2017 01:54 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:54 PM (OD2ni)
It's not difficult to envision him laying long loose rabbit snares all over Washington. Patience, is the hunter's virtue.
Posted by: gNewt at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (2d71x)
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But Jeff Sessions isn't in front of a microphone every day announcing firings, so Trump's presidency is a failure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:54 PM (mC1ZI)
OMG! Such hetero-normative, rape culture denying privilege. All penises are by definition menacing, rapey tools of the patriarchy!
Posted by: Hippy SJW Twin-Spirit acing her Critical Theory Feminism course at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (V/f/L)
Posted by: Holmes at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (v2JGC)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (nN3W/)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2017 01:54 PM (dnWSK)
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I hope the next Democratic nominee for governor of Texas starts his/her/xer appeal to the general electorate with: "Keep it in the ground!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:44 PM (mC1ZI)"
I'd like to see another 6am Saturday blast that knocks the Sunday talkers off their pre-recorded narratives again. That was funny as hell.
Posted by: DanMan at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (XTiHL)
True. I just like twisting the knife. Warren Buffet said some time back that he loves building Wind Farms but if the subsidies go away he's out of that business as fast as possible.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (3myMJ)
Texas, motherfuckers.
Posted by: eleven at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 01:56 PM (a0IVu)
http://tinyurl.com/mdebscr Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2017 01:52 PM (gwPgz)
This would be a winning answer in a game of "Six Degrees of Adolf Schickelgrueber"
Posted by: General Zod at May 12, 2017 01:56 PM (Bdeb0)
*
*
Yeah, when her walker and purse fell on him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 12, 2017 01:56 PM (uk/oG)
OMG! Such hetero-normative, rape culture denying privilege. All penises are by definition menacing, rapey tools of the patriarchy!
Posted by: Hippy SJW Twin-Spirit acing her Critical Theory Feminism course at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (V/f/L)
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"OMG! Do you have a Tumblr? I just need to know more!"
-Very smart college student who just spent the last hour crying because her dad said he would stop paying for college if she changed majors to gender studies
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:56 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (TwwWO)
They are still in Orlando I believe so there is hope for Ace's dick.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (UmSfZ)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (39g3+)
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I believe that this opinion makes you a climate denier and worse than Hitler.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (mC1ZI)
Most of the Solyndra money went to the executives as a payoff who in turn transferred some of that slush to dem campaigns. They fake business was just for show.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (ODxAs)
He's still in oil and gas though, imagine that.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Maritime
I'm sure it's possible. It's just that driving in a vehicle with sheet metal that thin, gross vehicle that light, would turn a fender bender accident into a total wreck with fatalities.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:58 PM (HTdUD)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:58 PM (TwwWO)
Posted by: Maritime
I'm sure it's possible. It's just that driving in a vehicle with sheet metal that thin, gross vehicle that light, would turn a fender bender accident into a total wreck with fatalities.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 12, 2017 01:58 PM (HTdUD)
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"You gotta crack some eggs..."
-Very feeling progressive who cares a lot about people
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:58 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: IC at May 12, 2017 01:56 PM (a0IVu)
I've heard that lemon also does it, not much luck for me...Codeine cough med works the best for me. I remember when it was over the counter....long ago.
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:59 PM (kSzsx)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (mC1ZI)
That's MY job ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 12, 2017 01:59 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: Grump928(c) pontificates at May 12, 2017 01:59 PM (QQ+il)
People who read it are literally shaking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2017 01:59 PM (39g3+)
Seas of gasoline would be incredibly improbable.
Posted by: Tom Servo
"Gas is a refined product. Have yet to see a single abiotic conjecture regarding that."
I was using the term as shorthand for long chain hydrocarbons. Hydrocarbons exist on a continuum, CH4 being by far the most common. (methane) C4H16 to C12H48 is generally what we call gasoline. C20H(whatever) starts getting into the tars, and stuff too sticky to use, and when you get to the C130+ compounds we're talking about coal.
All of these compounds are mixed up in crude oil in varying degrees (Saudi's have the useful "light" crude, Venezuela has the nasty "tar" crude mostly) The purpose of refining is just to split out the parts you can use from the rest of the mess, which is quite a trick, actually.
What we have observed is that while CH4 is everywhere in the observed universe, it appears from what we can see to require biological processes to make higher chain structures. That's the problem with the abiotic theory, as it pertains to crude - nobody knows how to go from CH4 to C12H48 unless something biological is involved and making the connections.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2017 01:59 PM (p8g4F)
Was no oil embargo. Fake news. I lived through it. People in the know call it Arab Oil Crisis. Gasoline distributors used Arab rhetoric as excuse to restrict supply and jack up prices. That worked just fine for US politicians. Saudi Oil Minister went on Meet-the-Press and surprised everyone by saying that they had talked about doing an embargo but couldn't get any agreement. Next day the gas lines were gone and the gas prices had dropped. And the media quit talking about it.
Posted by: Ok at May 12, 2017 01:59 PM (OE5e7)
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (UmSfZ)
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Yes. Those fucking big ass propellers are everywhere. Pisses me off to no end.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 12, 2017 02:00 PM (8XRCm)
Never heard a bee cough, so I say TRUE.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2017 02:00 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at May 12, 2017 02:00 PM (ukNFU)
Posted by: Raging Heterosexual at May 12, 2017 01:51 PM (8iiMU)
She's attractive in a let's get in the pool way.
Posted by: gNewt at May 12, 2017 02:00 PM (2d71x)
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 02:00 PM (UmSfZ)
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 01:30 PM (h1Tob)
Actually, Diesel generation is done in small towns in Alaska and northern Canada, and as backup nearly everywhere.
But natural gas is also a "petroleum" resource.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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You're obviously really reaching here.
I specifically separated oil from natural gas
A gasoline power plant is like an asterisk of our energy grid
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 02:00 PM (h1Tob)
They are still in Orlando I believe so there is hope for Ace's dick.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (OD2ni)
**********
But he's still basically admitting he needs a major robotic pneumatic system just to perform for a couple of minutes after a thirty minute wait time.
Posted by: Holmes at May 12, 2017 02:01 PM (v2JGC)
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (FTXAT)
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Like, they'd just vanish from the earth?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (mC1ZI)
OK, so they wouldn't disappear:-P
They would be abandoned and no more would be built.
And I would feel not even a little bit bad for the owners forced to actually dismantle them rather than leaving them to rust and fall apart on their own.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 02:01 PM (FTXAT)
She is being really dumb.
Spicer keeps telling her to ask Clapper about 'collusion'.
And he is schooling her.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 12, 2017 02:01 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Holmes at May 12, 2017 02:01 PM (v2JGC)
Now you guys joke about the economic acumen of Obama but he did fund Solyndra with $500,000,000 and their business plan was:
Wyle E. Obama
Super Genius
Have Brain Will Travel
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (npdX6)
To be fair to Barky, solyndra was a straight up payoff to obama financial bundlers who were invested in a losing business. Nice gig, if you can get it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2017 02:01 PM (tbOMB)
PGE came by the door, they sent this tattooed girl with studs in her face to tell me why we should pay more for our electricity. They have a program where you can prefer "alternate" energy production like wind and solar. But all it does is just raise your rates, its not like there's a special wire that comes to your home with different energy on it. Its like the treasury: it all goes into the same system, there's no "green" electricity line.
Remember, this is the same crowd that thinks "not one federal dime" goes into paying for PP abortions. But if the federal dimes keep the cash reservoir full enough so that "spillage" pays for abortions, that is exactly how they help pay for them.
Duh.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 12, 2017 02:01 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Under Fire at May 12, 2017 02:02 PM (nN3W/)
I have heard that there are still people willing to bid on the initial installation of wind farms, but darn few that will bid on the long-term maintenance of those wind farms because the graft and gravy are all up front. I'll be surprised to know how long Iowa's 45 yer commitment actually lasts.
Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2017 02:02 PM (gwPgz)
Energy sources that require a complete and different system as a backup, yep, that's the way to go!
I'd love to know the cost per kilowatt of that energy, especially once you factor in that oil/gas/coal doesn't require a backup system.
Why does Iowa hate eagles???
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 02:02 PM (3myMJ)
investment that goes along with it, and convert to electric vehicles
where you'd have to plan you cross country trip with the Tesla app to
tell where the next charging station on your route, or close to it.
Talking to an acquaintance who has an electric car:
Me: How far can you go on a fully charged battery.
Him: Depends...[then gives an example of how sometimes he might have to do things like not use the windshield wipers and other features to make sure he can get home on his current battery's charge].
Yeah, I don't want to have to decide whether I get home *or* see the road as a drive home because of the battery drain of the windshield wipers.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2017 02:03 PM (NOIQH)
Solar powered cars, that's what we need....and monorails ,Well sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
Electrified, six-car monorail
What'd I say? Monorail
Posted by: Colin at May 12, 2017 01:02 PM (kSzsx)
===============
The oil probably won't last forever. It'll take a while to get to an actual peak oil point, but I do hope that something else comes along to replace it.
Hydrogen fuel cells seem nifty and could
Or small nuclear reactors? Or fusion reactors?
I just see how the ME has become so important to the world, and it's almost all because of oil that I don't want to see that replicated anywhere else. Or, God forbid, suddenly something goes wrong and the ME is the center of attention again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:05 PM (mC1ZI)
Posted by: Soona at May 12, 2017 02:03 PM (Fmupd)
True. I just like twisting the knife. Warren Buffet said some time
back that he loves building Wind Farms but if the subsidies go away he's
out of that business as fast as possible.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:55 PM (3myMJ)
I wonder if we can also pass a law to remove all past subsidies literally from his hide?
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 02:03 PM (FTXAT)
Kind of. You know why every car company in America has hybrids and electric cars? Not because there's demand, but because that brings their average mileage down across the fleet. Its a back door way to subsidize the electric car dream of the left: force companies to make them in order to make cars that actually sell.
All those Ford F150s that roll out the lot every year have pretty good gas mileage for a car, but they aren't low enough, so Ford has to put out the hybrid and electric versions of their pocket sedans just to be allowed to stay in business.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2017 02:03 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ok at May 12, 2017 02:05 PM (OE5e7)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 12, 2017 01:53 PM (mC1ZI)
They'd stand disused, and falling to pieces, since likely there is no money set aside to decommission them (as there is in the case of petroleum production and mining.)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 02:05 PM (0deF2)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 12, 2017 02:05 PM (KGH7Z)
Oil didn't become the predominant power source for the world out of necessity or desperation. People just discovered that it was a very useful fuel and power source and went to it because it was better. If someone finds something better, people will move to it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)
Are no better than Job's wives and children.
If they prayed for salvation they would get it. And being saved from low gas prices is the least of their problems.
Posted by: Ok at May 12, 2017 02:07 PM (OE5e7)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (TwwWO)
Fischer-Tropf process, IIRC. Works for SASOL, too. But not competitive at current oil prices.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 02:07 PM (0deF2)
I'll always look at peak-oil (present or in the future) people with the stink eye.
Posted by: Soona at May 12, 2017 02:08 PM (Fmupd)
while to get to an actual peak oil point, but I do hope that something
else comes along to replace it.
Oil didn't become the predominant power source for the world out of
necessity or desperation. People just discovered that it was a very
useful fuel and power source and went to it because it was better. If
someone finds something better, people will move to it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2017 02:05 PM (39g3+)
Too true...
Also worth noting... oil became preeminent without government subsidies. A good hint is whatever eventually replaces it will not need subsidies either.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 12, 2017 02:08 PM (FTXAT)
gas mileage for a car, but they aren't low enough, so Ford has to put
out the hybrid and electric versions of their pocket sedans just to be
allowed to stay in business."
That's a nice business you got there. It would be a shame if a regulation burned it to the ground.
Posted by: The Green Mafia at May 12, 2017 02:09 PM (Fz5yy)
My 2014 F150 4x4 gets almost the same mileage as my wife's Volvo XC90. She may get a couple of miles better on the highway.
Posted by: DanMan at May 12, 2017 02:10 PM (XTiHL)
He's still in oil and gas though, imagine that.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (3myMJ)
The wind thing was a sham. He (hello California) wanted to sell the water to Dallas county. But he wanted the county to pay for the construction of the water line. When the county said no he said whoa and got out of the wind bidness.
Posted by: gNewt at May 12, 2017 02:11 PM (2d71x)
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (UmSfZ)
Don't believe it. World-wide, less than 1% of electricity comes from wind generation. And if wind generation makes up more than about 20% of the capacity of a given grid, it can become unstable, because there is not enough backup capacity to meet demand when the wind stops blowing. When, not "if".
Wind energy advocates, get this, lie. A lot.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 02:11 PM (0deF2)
Posted by: DanMan at May 12, 2017 02:13 PM (XTiHL)
Posted by: An Poc Ar Buile at May 12, 2017 02:16 PM (y3BOM)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 01:43 PM (0deF2)
Precise-a-mundo!
And not cheap to fix. We need to spend a lot right now just to keep up with population and energy-use growth before adding electric cars to the mix.
Posted by: Meremortal
****
To the left, a feature and not a bug. Shortages = high prices = lefty splooj
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 12, 2017 02:17 PM (0x/TW)
call it Arab Oil Crisis. Gasoline distributors used Arab rhetoric as
excuse to restrict supply and jack up prices. That worked just fine for
US politicians. Saudi Oil Minister went on Meet-the-Press and surprised
everyone by saying that they had talked about doing an embargo but
couldn't get any agreement. Next day the gas lines were gone and the gas
prices had dropped. And the media quit talking about it.
.
.
.Not sure where you are getting that info but the Arab League actually banned exports to the US and a bunch of other Countries.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 12, 2017 02:18 PM (le7jz)
investments in turbines says even if the subsidy $$$ go away, they're
staying.
Posted by: IP at May 12, 2017 01:57 PM (UmSfZ)
I'm gonna guess a bunch of electricity companies in other states put up wind farms in Iowa so they can brag about their green energy production. So Iowa gets a benefit for being empty and flat. And gets paid to help other states lie about being green
Posted by: Minnesotan at May 12, 2017 02:19 PM (Fz5yy)
I specifically separated oil from natural gas
A gasoline power plant is like an asterisk of our energy grid
Posted by: Maritime at May 12, 2017 02:00 PM (h1Tob)
Look, we refine gasoline and diesel out of crude oil to make motor fuel, because it's convenient to do so. Used to be, they refined kerosene for lamp oil out of petroleum, because before electricity, there was a huge demand for it.
Energy is fungible. Like money. You can make one form into another. As long as petroleum oil is readily available, it makes no sense at all to use other sources of energy to run transportation vehicles, with the probable exception of electrified railways, because no storage required.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2017 02:21 PM (0deF2)
http://www.history.com/shows/men-who-built-america
Posted by: Minnesotan at May 12, 2017 02:25 PM (Fz5yy)
You can not be Jewish, or Muslim.
Think about that.
Posted by: simplemind at May 12, 2017 02:54 PM (xVRrG)
Ace, serious question. Do you honestly view the current government of Russia as "communist"? They are less communist than the USA or EU.
What terrorist groups do they support? They do cooperate with Iran, since they have a massive oil agreement with their neighbor over lake baikal. But the USA also cooperates with Saudi Arabia and Qatar which are at least as terrorist as Iran.
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