<i>Of Course:</i> Federal Court Rules that Firing of Phoenix VA Official, <i>Who Is a Felon</i>, is "Unconstitutional"

Of Course: Federal Court Rules that Firing of Phoenix VA Official, Who Is a Felon, is "Unconstitutional"

Note that the procedures ruled "unconstitutional" are from a 2014 law, and this firing happened under Obama.

Though Loretta Lynch also declined to object as to the "unconstitutionality" of the procedures -- Government Workers Uber Alles.

A law was recently passed under Trump to make firing of incompetents even easier -- but that law too utilizes the procedures of the 2014 law, now ruled "unconstitutional," thanks to Mr. Government Obama and his corrupt mob boss.

Posted by: Ace at 04:21 PM

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1 'Discriminating' used to be a good thing.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 10, 2017 04:15 PM (oVJmc)

2 Is it the 9th Circus Court again?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at May 10, 2017 04:16 PM (hMwEB)

3 Should have gone to Law School - but I had standards.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 10, 2017 04:17 PM (vV/gB)

4 We need to just start over.. Article V convention that declares all previous laws defunct, and just start over.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 10, 2017 04:18 PM (so+oy)

5 Gubmint's gotta Gubmint

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 10, 2017 04:18 PM (jsWA8)

6 I should have gone into government work and gotten a cushy job as a bureaucrat.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at May 10, 2017 04:18 PM (nvMvs)

7 Bejeezers - these Court sure are litigious and shit.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 10, 2017 04:19 PM (WLK0w)

8 In other words, screw our veterans. A felon with a sweet government job is more important.

I Just Can't Even Wednesday.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:20 PM (PY9jH)

9 9th circus at work again. Congress needs to act now in several steps.

Step 1: Impeach every judge in the 9th circuit.

step 2: Tell Trump to appoint replacements for all.

Step 3: Senate confirm all with no hassle from Democrats.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2017 04:21 PM (mpXpK)

10 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at May 10, 2017 04:21 PM (/ijCB)

11 Speaking of people with law degrees: Could Ted Cruz become FBI director?

Posted by: m at May 10, 2017 04:21 PM (VgThI)

12 We need to just start over.. Article V convention that declares all previous laws defunct, and just start over.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 10, 2017 04:18 PM (so+oy)

Complete re-rack.

...and no California or Chicago, either. Nuclear wasteland, by amendment.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 10, 2017 04:21 PM (EjfPg)

13 Man. The independent judiciary used to be a great thing-- revolutionary and wonderful, and systems that lacked it were worse off.

It's like you can't 'hack' human nature for very long.

Sorry, The Enlightenment. It was a nice try.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 10, 2017 04:23 PM (UWw/8)

14 And official Communist Party Members will soon be able to hold official government jobs in CA!

Oh Brave New World!

Posted by: shibumi at May 10, 2017 04:24 PM (8zWAk)

15 We had a nice run - but it's over. Best look to your own and best of luck to ya

Posted by: Rex Mundi at May 10, 2017 04:24 PM (9LWIR)

16 I see zero legal basis for this insane ruling.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2017 04:24 PM (mpXpK)

17 This is something that congress could easily fix. Will they? No.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 10, 2017 04:24 PM (kTF2Z)

18 12: i would like to subscribe to your newsletter. thanks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 10, 2017 04:24 PM (KP5rU)

19 I Just Can't Even Wednesday.
--

Yeah, there is that.

I don't want to say "we need SMOD to sort this sh*t out," but we need SMOD to sort this sh*t out.

Posted by: shibumi at May 10, 2017 04:25 PM (8zWAk)

20

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's opposition protests on Wednesday may be the messiest in a six-week wave of unrest as demonstrators prepare to throw feces at security forces, adding to the customary rocks, petrol bombs and tear gas.

The new tactic has been dubbed the "Poopootov" in a play on the Molotov cocktails often seen at streets protests in Venezuela.

"They have gas; we have excrement," reads an image floating around social media to advertise Wednesday's "Shit March."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2017 04:25 PM (IqV8l)

21 Federal court corruption all the way down.

Posted by: Tentotwo at May 10, 2017 04:25 PM (EgGV0)

22 My head is spinning from all the 180-dehgree reversals every 90 minutes or so.

Posted by: zombie at May 10, 2017 04:26 PM (DQ4Fv)

23 https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ugH-mxFzr9U

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 10, 2017 04:26 PM (Nwg0u)

24 Might be a good thing to finally get Congress to change some laws, but that's assuming we had a majority that was actually interested in helping the country and not settling scores with Trump.

Posted by: Maritime at May 10, 2017 04:26 PM (XjId6)

25 Wait...
ANOTHER Obama era rule or law has been overturned/ruled as unconstitutional by a federal Court?

Am I reading that correctly?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (J+eG2)

26 14 And official Communist Party Members will soon be able to hold official government jobs in CA!

I think they're trolling us on purpose with that one. Are there really a lot of otherwise-qualified card-carrying Communists that such a law would help? It's virtue-signalling.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (UWw/8)

27
"They have gas; we have excrement," reads an image floating around social media to advertise Wednesday's "Shit March."
---

This is going to be a tactic of Antifa.

If Republicans did it, they would be prosecuted claiming this is a biological weapon (IMHO, it is.)

Democrats however, will never be prosecuted for things like this because of "intent" and "The Resistance."

Posted by: shibumi at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (8zWAk)

28 14 And official Communist Party Members will soon be able to hold official government jobs in CA!

Oh Brave New World!

Posted by: shibumi

It's funny because 75% of the California legislature are already commies, so it was the commies who are throwing out the old commie law.

Posted by: zombie at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (DQ4Fv)

29 Ever since that POS song Lawyers in Love, I've hated the judicial system and legal-themed TV shows.

Thank you Jackson Brown, because of you I have never watched an episode of Law and Order or spent a dime on your musak.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (WLK0w)

30
Colbert's show and SNL are just re-broadcasts of CNN and MSNBC with a laugh track.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (cjXKD)

31 Just have Trump institute "firing Fridays" wherein he personally signs every pink slip.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (qf8IB)

32 So why don't conservatives go and work at the VA??

Posted by: Him at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (4ke74)

33 A law was recently passed under Trump to make firing of incompetents even easier -- but that law too utilizes the procedures of the 2014 law, now ruled "unconstitutional," thanks to Mr. Government Obama and his corrupt mob boss.

The decision gets into the weeds about ministerial functions and the like and the whole time I was reading it I was screaming FUCK THAT SHIT FUCK IT SIDEWAYS WITH A BARBED WIRE COVERED PINEAPPLE which, by the by, is too completely valid legal analysis.

I mean, look, I reject the notion that an administrative law judge has any authority at all but since the APA was ruled constitutional WHICH IT'S NOT ARRRGGHHH then if Congress has the right to delegate out authority then Congress also has the right to go back and alter the terms of the delegation.

Fuck it, I get why nearly all y'all want to put me up against the wall for having a JD. Just a reminder though. No one hates those who have JDs more than others who do as well.

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM (mf5HN)

34 Johnny Depp made and spent $650 million

Wow

Posted by: Yo! at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM (/ijCB)

35 tsk tsk
This is such small potatoes.

Posted by: GOP at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM (57R5r)

36 My head is spinning from all the 180-dehgree reversals every 90 minutes or so.
--

It's no inconsistency or lack of coherent belief.

Their arguments are "complex," "situational" and "nuanced."

/bet you'll hear that on CNN/MSNBC at some point

Posted by: shibumi at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM (8zWAk)

37 Every single time I hear some SJW or other Prog crow about how we "need" Single Payer, I want to point wildly at the VA. THAT is government "healthcare."

I'll be over in the corner, twitching for a few minutes. Pay me no mind.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:29 PM (PY9jH)

38 If federal judges really, really, REALLY want to go down this road, then:

1) Trump needs to tell the judge that the judge's ruling is itself unconstitutional, and go fuck yourself sideways with an enraged porcupine, and

2) Congress needs to by law strip federal judges of any authority over Executive Branch personnel decisions.

Posted by: filbert at May 10, 2017 04:30 PM (s5o+q)

39
Kinda reminds me of when Gov Rick Perry fired that corrupt drunk broad and then Perry ended up indicted by a grand jury.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 04:30 PM (cjXKD)

40 I read the underlying logic, and there is none. Basically, only a poorly defined officer of the state can fire somebody, and nobody else can. This would explain the thousands of felons who are being paid full salary to sit at home.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2017 04:31 PM (7ZVPa)

41 It's only a matter if time...

Your Honor, We are suing because the Sexbot Corporation's insistence on producing only male and female sexbots is discriminatory. We, on behalf of the Citizens of The United States of America demand sexbots with hoo-has AND ding a lings in the name of Social Justice!

Can't we just file a suit in a friendly jurisdiction that the other court's decision is F*%&#* retarded and the judge should be tarred, feathered and beaten about the torso with the nearest live member of the weasel family?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at May 10, 2017 04:31 PM (a3sfz)

42

The Merit Systems Protection Board. The deepest, slimiest and most entrenched part of the swamp.

If Trump can destroy it, the swamp will become self-draining.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 10, 2017 04:31 PM (C52a9)

43
Every single time I hear some SJW or other Prog crow about how we "need" Single Payer, I want to point wildly at the VA. THAT is government "healthcare."

It wasn't that long ago that Bernie and his buds were citing the VA as a good example of single payer at work. I haven't heard him say anything like that lately.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2017 04:31 PM (IqV8l)

44 Thank you Jackson Brown, because of you I have never watched an episode of Law and Order or spent a dime on your musak.

Aw, I like that song-- it's not funny, exactly, but offbeat. "The Russians escaped/ As Russians do" is amusing.

It's shallowness masquerading as trenchant wit, but it beats most of what we have now. See also Messrs. Kimmel and Colbert.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 10, 2017 04:31 PM (UWw/8)

45 When's Comey gonna sue?

Posted by: tu3031 at May 10, 2017 04:32 PM (qJhUV)

46 The Merit Systems Protection Board. The deepest, slimiest and most entrenched part of the swamp.

If Trump can destroy it, the swamp will become self-draining.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 10, 2017 04:31 PM (C52a9)

Can he just remove all members of the Board and neglect to appoint new ones?

Posted by: redbanzai at May 10, 2017 04:32 PM (qf8IB)

47

Not Ninth Circuit, but fed circuit, and a Bush appointee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Prost

Posted by: imp at May 10, 2017 04:33 PM (XIXZz)

48 If I were in Trump's shows, I would just push the envelope and fire huge swaths of people.

It will take years to figure out in court and even if they get settlement checks eventually, it will be worth it to get rid of them.

The idea that a "civil servant" can't be fired for incompetence is something that needs to be tested.

Posted by: Maritime at May 10, 2017 04:33 PM (XjId6)

49
When's Comey gonna sue?

Posted by: tu3031
==

Realistically?

Yesterday.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 10, 2017 04:33 PM (C52a9)

50 45 When's Comey gonna sue?
Posted by: tu3031 at May 10, 2017 04:32 PM (qJhUV)

Sue? His firing will probably be overturned in the next 48 hours.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 10, 2017 04:33 PM (72PAC)

51 I hate to brag, but I called it! Check the thread of the firing out for my prediction. You can bet that anything President Trump does will be challenged through the courts. How any of this is constitutional is beyond me.

Posted by: very irredeemably undude at May 10, 2017 04:33 PM (2X7pN)

52 >>>So why don't conservatives go and work at the VA??

Who says they don't?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 10, 2017 04:33 PM (b9OGs)

53 Fuck it, I get why nearly all y'all want to put me up against the wall for having a JD.

If it makes you feel better... *types* *deletes*

Please have mercy upon me, Empress.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 10, 2017 04:34 PM (UWw/8)

54 The judge decided that an administrative law judge did not have the constitutional authority to fire the person because that person would have to be fired by a Cabinet Secretary, and the administrative law judge got called into the fracas because the union appealed the firing decision of the Cabinet secretary.

So, you see, the person who holds the policy position to fire someone who is not just an employee can't fire the person because the appeal process would be decided by an administrative law judge who doesn't have the constitutional authority to fire.

It really is quite clear. Catch 22 was not just a movie.

Posted by: Frenzel Le Indolant at May 10, 2017 04:34 PM (FvR1t)

55 It's time to drink heavily.

Posted by: Killerdog at May 10, 2017 04:34 PM (OBznz)

56 Where's my lawyer!!!

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at May 10, 2017 04:34 PM (qJhUV)

57 Pretentious hipster leftoid San Francisco art-whores bought a loft, filled it with shipping containers as rooms, put communist art on the walls, and then just "flipped" the building by putting it up for sale to the next sucker in the rich SJW community -- who bought it for a cool $5.25 MILLION. I shit you not:

http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2017/05/09/ bush-street-shipping-container-loft-conversion-sells-for-5-250m/#photo-793196

Posted by: zombie at May 10, 2017 04:35 PM (DQ4Fv)

58 >>>I hate to brag, but I called it! Check the thread of the firing out for my prediction. You can bet that anything President Trump does will be challenged through the courts. How any of this is constitutional is beyond me.

The firing was in November 2014. Can you link to the original thread?

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 10, 2017 04:35 PM (b9OGs)

59 40,
"I read the underlying logic, and there is none. Basically, only a
poorly defined officer of the state can fire somebody, and nobody else
can. This would explain the thousands of felons who are being paid full
salary to sit at home."

Whats odd to me is that they are originally fired by a US officer but then can appeal to an administrative judge who then gives thumbs up or down on the firing. What they threw out was the judge having this final say but under the old law it was still a judge who had the final say they just took years to say it, finally.

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 10, 2017 04:36 PM (d3wbb)

60 32 So why don't conservatives go and work at the VA??
Posted by: Him at May 10, 2017 04:27 PM (4ke74)

My Dad worked in a Supervisory capacity in the VA for thirty years. Basically, forget about firing anyone, if you can dodge the guilty until proven innocent discrimination charges, you are ahead of the game.

And he was best friends with African American head of Personnel who had a multi decade career at the EEOC previously.

The workers have all the power, even more than the patients.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at May 10, 2017 04:36 PM (a3sfz)

61 I wonder what that cancerous asshole McCain thinks about this?

Posted by: Under Fire at May 10, 2017 04:36 PM (57R5r)

62 It's shallowness masquerading as trenchant wit, but it beats most of what we have now. See also Messrs. Kimmel and Colbert.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 10, 2017 04:31 PM (UWw/

**
Don't think I ever made it past the first chorus to think that deeply about it. Then again I was probably 12years old when it first aired, I couldn't do anything deeply.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 10, 2017 04:36 PM (WLK0w)

63 Can he just remove all members of the Board and neglect to appoint new ones?
===

Yeah. But they would just backlog the cases for years. While continuing to pay those fired incompetents full salary.

The unions simply represent the fired employee. The MSPB makes the decisions.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 10, 2017 04:37 PM (C52a9)

64
If it makes you feel better... *types* *deletes*

Please have mercy upon me, Empress.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 10, 2017 04:34 PM (UWw/

I am known for my mercy, 'tis true.

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:38 PM (mf5HN)

65 Can we summarily execute these people?

Because a couple of those and I bet government employees start shaping up!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 10, 2017 04:38 PM (npdX6)

66 The permanent government. Voting is just a cute diversion.

Posted by: josephistan at May 10, 2017 04:39 PM (7HtZB)

67 I'm trying to dig into the law and it looks like maybe the court has a shred of a small point, but delegating to lesser officials is not exactly new or unusual, so I think its a pretty poor one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 10, 2017 04:39 PM (39g3+)

68 >>>>Congress needs to act now in several steps.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Max Power at May 10, 2017 04:40 PM (q177U)

69 The idea that a "civil servant" can't be fired for incompetence is something that needs to be tested.

Posted by: Maritime at May 10, 2017 04:33 PM (XjId6)

Actually, it needs to be uprooted and fired into the sun. It turns out that, as bad as it undoubtedly was, the "spoils system" was still less bad than this.

I blame Bush Jr. for a lot of this though. Not clearing out what he could of Clinton's picks gave the bureaucrats almost 25 years of uninterrupted growth.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 10, 2017 04:40 PM (sEDyY)

70 32. This is just depressing - the quality of HQ trolls has really fallen.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 10, 2017 04:40 PM (TwwWO)

71 It is the considered opinion of this Court that the U.S. Constitution is unconstitutional. Therefore, it is rescinded and struck down in toto, ipso facto.

Posted by: Hawaii Federal District Judge at May 10, 2017 04:40 PM (JO9+V)

72 Their arguments are "complex," "situational" and "nuanced."

Fuck your nuance.

There. Is that nuanced enough?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2017 04:41 PM (o+pgY)

73 Put Comey in a Che style graphic on some tee shirts. Stylish scarf draping about his neck. The rubes will lap it up like honeyed milk.

Posted by: V. I. Lenin, HR at May 10, 2017 04:41 PM (cneZH)

74 It is the considered opinion of this Court that the U.S. Constitution is unconstitutional. Therefore, it is rescinded and struck down in toto, ipso facto.

Posted by: Hawaii Federal District Judge

--

That was funny, up until a California court nullified a constitutional amendment as unconstitutional.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2017 04:42 PM (7ZVPa)

75 It is the considered opinion of this Court that the U.S. Constitution is unconstitutional. Therefore, it is rescinded and struck down in toto, ipso facto.

Please please please. Texas would be gone toot suite.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2017 04:42 PM (o+pgY)

76 Instead of 24 vet's suicides a day, maybe we should have 24 VA firings a day.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 10, 2017 04:43 PM (6Ll1u)

77 Does it supervise anyone. CA struck down a voter passed amendment to their Constitution as Unconstitutional.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 04:43 PM (EV+4+)

78 I'm trying to dig into the law and it looks like maybe the court has a shred of a small point, but delegating to lesser officials is not exactly new or unusual, so I think its a pretty poor one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 10, 2017 04:39 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, the court's not wrong per se on this IF and that's the big if IF you accept the underlying premise regarding delegation.

If you're going to speak Delegation Doctrine, then speak all of it, not just few words you sort of remember for that show on Netflix that time.

Hilariously, though, if you take my view to the logical conclusion then the firing would still be unconstitutional since the entire administrative law judge system would be unconstitutional but *waves paw* let's ignore that, shall we.

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:43 PM (mf5HN)

79 Fuck it, I get why nearly all y'all want to put me up against the wall for having a JD. Just a reminder though. No one hates those who have JDs more than others who do as well.
Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM (mf5HN)

You have nice tits, so you get a pass.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 10, 2017 04:43 PM (enArR)

80 The 9th is destroying what little credibility the courts still have with the average person. At some point, Congress and the president need to breakup that jurisdiction and some of those appointees need to be removed.

In this judge shopping environment, the courts are only as good as their weakest link. The 9th circuit is far from being any bench that equally applies the law. It's essentially a rogue court.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 04:43 PM (WYzZJ)

81 Stupid auto correct is trying to 1984 me.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 04:44 PM (EV+4+)

82 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IF HILLARY FIRED HIM IT WOULD BE CONSTITUTIONAL.

Posted by: BEN ROSLINGBURGER at May 10, 2017 04:44 PM (q177U)

83 And official Communist Party Members will soon be able to hold official government jobs in CA!

Oh Brave New World!

Posted by: shibumi at May 10, 2017 04:24 PM (8zWAk)

They aren't already?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 04:44 PM (493sH)

84 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE FEDERAL JUDGES HAVE LIFETIME
EMPLOYMENT LIKE OTHER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 10, 2017 04:44 PM (57R5r)

85 9 9th circus at work again. Congress needs to act now in several steps.

Step 1: Impeach every judge in the 9th circuit.

step 2: Tell Trump to appoint replacements for all.

Step 3: Senate confirm all with no hassle from Democrats.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2017 04:21 PM (mpXpK)

++++

Good plan, except you forgot step 0: get a new congress, since the current one will do none of those things.

I recommend MisHum's link from the sidebar.
The 3 Squishes Collins, Graham McCain, Screw the American Public. What good is it to have the House and Senate when they won't or don't know how to govern? They are hopeless. [Mis. Hum.]

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2017 04:44 PM (R+30W)

86 Kinda reminds me of when Gov Rick Perry fired that corrupt drunk broad and then Perry ended up indicted by a grand jury.

----

*hic* darn right tootin *hic* shuldve ben in jal *hic*. Doncha no who im?

Posted by: Rosemary Lehmberg drinker of fine liquor at May 10, 2017 04:45 PM (suO/a)

87 Is Phoenix 9th Circus?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 04:45 PM (ul9CR)

88 Wow, the courts really want to jump right to the "blood in the streets" part of this societal collapse, don't they?

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at May 10, 2017 04:45 PM (i6shs)

89 You have nice tits, so you get a pass.
Posted by: Country Boy at May 10, 2017 04:43 PM (enArR)

This does work for many areas of my life, so I've got that going for me.

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:45 PM (mf5HN)

90 Kinda reminds me of when Gov Rick Perry fired that corrupt drunk broad and then Perry ended up indicted by a grand jury.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 04:30 PM (cjXKD)

Welcome to Austin.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 10, 2017 04:45 PM (enArR)

91 "It is the considered opinion of this Court that the U.S. Constitution is unconstitutional. Therefore, it is rescinded and struck down in toto, ipso facto. "

For those of you playing our home game.

Our laws are based on the Constitution.

If the Constitution is abolished, our system of laws become null and void.

Our system of laws is what protects criminals from retribution by honest citizens.

I am personally well equipped to protect me and mine.

So be careful there judges.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 10, 2017 04:46 PM (J+eG2)

92 Burn it down
Scatter the stones
Salt the earth where it once stood

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at May 10, 2017 04:46 PM (DpOmP)

93 >>>The 9th is destroying what little credibility the courts still have with the average person. At some point, Congress and the president need to breakup that jurisdiction and some of those appointees need to be removed.

I think it's too late for that.

Posted by: Max Power at May 10, 2017 04:46 PM (q177U)

94

It's so nice that judges are all Judge Dredds. I am the law

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 04:46 PM (493sH)

95 Everything is just so ridiculous. Fuggin Kabbage Smasher had his panties in a bunch over Comey last night as well as Tucker saying he would be against disolving the 9th district. The media and our judicial system simply will not let the will of the people through Trump succeed. it truly is astonishing.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 10, 2017 04:47 PM (WLK0w)

96 Yeah, Rick Perry getting indicted for the crime of governing while Governor. That shit pissed me off royally.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 04:47 PM (ul9CR)

97 33 Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM (mf5HN)

As a licensed shyster, can confirm.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at May 10, 2017 04:47 PM (i6shs)

98 So, don't fire them. Transfer them to a new job in Anchorage. ;-)

Posted by: Jay Dee at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (xyBta)

99 Where the hell are you guys getting that this was a Ninth Circuit decision?

It was a Federal Circuit decision. The Federal Circuit is based in DC.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/Circuit%20Map.pdf

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (mf5HN)

100
This whole mess we're in has become a Gordian Knot that will have to be cut by someone with a really big sword. There is no way we untangle this mess.

Posted by: Frenzel Le Indolant at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (FvR1t)

101 Posted by: Him

Back under the stairs, dunce.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (QQ+il)

102 OT,
Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, Trey Gowdy, Ray Kelly on FBI director short list - Fox News

Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (a0IVu)

103 Trey Gowdy for FBI Director!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 10, 2017 04:49 PM (J+eG2)

104 Does it supervise anyone. CA struck down a voter passed amendment to their Constitution as Unconstitutional.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 04:43 PM (EV+4+)

Soooo riddle me this... if the Constitution neither creates nor recognizes any Cabinet Secretaries (they are instead creations of the legislature), how can removing part of their authority be unconstitutional.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 10, 2017 04:49 PM (qf8IB)

105 Fuck it, I get why nearly all y'all want to put me up against the wall for having a JD. Just a reminder though. No one hates those who have JDs more than others who do as well.

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM (mf5HN)

What other profession (outside of sports) is dedicated to fighting other people in the same profession?

(Business competition doesn't count, since ideally the way to "fight" your competitors is to offer a better product.)

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 10, 2017 04:50 PM (s7vJs)

106 57 Pretentious hipster leftoid San Francisco art-whores bought a loft, filled it with shipping containers as rooms, put communist art on the walls, and then just "flipped" the building by putting it up for sale to the next sucker in the rich SJW community -- who bought it for a cool $5.25 MILLION. I shit you not:

http://blog.sfgate.com/ontheblock/2017/05/09/bush-street-shipping-
container-loft-conversion-sells-for-5-250m/#photo-793196

Posted by: zombie at May 10, 2017 04:35 PM (DQ4Fv)

++++

Sounds like an upscale version of that place that burned down killing some people not too long ago.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2017 04:50 PM (R+30W)

107 102
Out of that group of losers I would pick Gowdy as the lesser evil.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 10, 2017 04:50 PM (57R5r)

108 I am known for my mercy, 'tis true.

Punishment delayed by accessorization time doesn't really count as giving someone time to make piece with their deity.

Posted by: DaveA at May 10, 2017 04:51 PM (FhXTo)

109 Not Giuliani, please.

I like the guy, but sadly, have you heard him lately?

He's not well.

Plus, from chatter I hear he may have actual questionable ties with Russia.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 04:51 PM (ul9CR)

110 What other profession (outside of sports) is dedicated to fighting other people in the same profession?

(Business competition doesn't count, since ideally the way to "fight" your competitors is to offer a better product.)
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 10, 2017 04:50 PM (s7vJs)

Accounting?

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:51 PM (mf5HN)

111 What other profession (outside of sports) is dedicated to fighting other people in the same profession?

Scientists. If you can show that the other guy was an ignorant fool, you look like a winner.

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 04:52 PM (LAe3v)

112 Girl at work touches my shoulder today during a conversation with other people around and says "wow, you have rock hard shoulders". Me, I kinda blushed. It was a little weird. Another person comes up to me afterwards and states I should report her to HR. I was like, "the fook" who does that? Then HR comes to my office later and says they heard there may have been an incident. I said I have no idea what you're talking about get the heck out of my office.

What the hell has this world come to?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (WYzZJ)

113 The ex-president clusterfuck's shit-pile that he left behind is going to haunt us for the rest of our days.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (hiHQz)

114 107 102
Out of that group of losers I would pick Gowdy as the lesser evil.

Word. The others are all HELL No's. Gowdy's just a "meh."

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (ul9CR)

115 The problem with the law profession is 5% of its time is made up of crafting the law and 95% interpreting what they crafted.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (EV+4+)

116 What other profession (outside of sports) is dedicated to fighting other people in the same profession?

Soldier.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (9krrF)

117 >>>Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, Trey Gowdy, Ray Kelly on FBI director short list - Fox News
.
.
.Oh not Krispy Kreme again. Trey Gowdy I could handle.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (le7jz)

118 Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (a0IVu)

Don't know who Ray Kelly is. Of the others Gowdy seems best.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (sEDyY)

119 I recently learned that BEN ROTHLISBERGER has a tavern in my town. The Savannah Taproom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (PY9jH)

120 Trump should just send Kellyanne Conway down to Phoenix to FUCK HER UP!!

Posted by: tu3031 at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (qJhUV)

121 Can you say "Judicial Coup"???

I knew you could

Posted by: Mister Rogers at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (DpOmP)

122 Maximus Decimus Meridius for FBI.

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (LAe3v)

123 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (ul9CR)

What's wrong with Rudy?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (EV+4+)

124 Though Loretta Lynch also declined to object as to the "unconstitutionality" of the procedures -- Government Workers Uber Alles.

Second look at decimation?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (SRKgf)

125 Ray Kelly former NYPD Chief of Police.

Posted by: steevy at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (r/0kC)

126
Trump should just send Kellyanne Conway down to Phoenix to FUCK HER UP!!

Posted by: tu3031 at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (qJhUV)

Kellyanne had Chris Cuomo by the throat this morning. It was a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (PY9jH)

127 I have a sinking feeling a lot of us here will not get a WINNING out of this FBI Director pick.

But then again, Hillary Clinton will never be President.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (ul9CR)

128 I think Ray Kelly is the former NYC police commissioner?

Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 04:55 PM (a0IVu)

129 The current 9th circuit needs to be hived off and only have jurisdiction of Nome

Posted by: Colonel Nathan Jessup at May 10, 2017 04:55 PM (DpOmP)

130 Just NO to Chrispy Creme as FBI director. He's too shady.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:55 PM (PY9jH)

131 130
Just NO to Chrispy Creme as FBI director. He's too shady.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:55 PM (PY9jH)
I want some donuts now.

Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 04:56 PM (a0IVu)

132 So in other words, the veterans being abused by the Phoenix VA had no standing.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 10, 2017 04:56 PM (OVmeB)

133 131 130
Just NO to Chrispy Creme as FBI director. He's too shady.

+++

He does provide shade, I'll give him that.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (hiHQz)

134 What's wrong with Rudy?

I haven't seen his charts, but I would assume old age. That and the cancer treatments take a toll even if you are cured.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (QQ+il)

135 Just NO to Chrispy Creme as FBI director. He's too shady.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:55 PM (PY9jH)

He casts a lot of shade too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (493sH)

136 Well politicians fight one another a lot

Posted by: NCKate at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (VM5D5)

137

Eer body has lost their damn minds

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (JgG+K)

138 I hope the highlight of Christie's political career remains squeezing Obama's ass. I was done with him after that.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (WYzZJ)

139 Out of that group of losers I would pick Gowdy as the lesser evil.
Posted by: Under Fire

Hopefully that is a BS list that Trump floated to smoke out leakers.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (o+pgY)

140 102 OT,
Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, Trey Gowdy, Ray Kelly on FBI director short list - Fox News

Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (a0IVu)

++++

Wasn't Giuliani up for AG? And didn't he decline based on Trump's rules about taking money from certain kinds of interests?

If that was true about the AG position, then it stands to reason that it would also be true for FBI.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (R+30W)

141 What's wrong with Rudy?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 04:54 PM (EV+4+)

They say he's too small and slow to play football. But the kid's got heart

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (493sH)

142 instead of firing the scum then, how about we mandate that they receive all healthcare through the VA?

that should put them in a grave pretty quick.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (8M4Ih)

143 Kellyanne had Chris Cuomo by the throat this morning. It was a thing of beauty.

I like when she stabs people in the eyes with her spike heels.

She's got spunk, that one.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (QQ+il)

144
I hope the highlight of Christie's political career remains squeezing Obama's ass. I was done with him after that.

Not me (tee hee).

Posted by: Barack "It's a Man's World" Obama at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (LAe3v)

145 1 - Hillary Clinton did not get the honor of making the first husband and wife Presidents to fire FBI directors.

2 - Aren't you glad Hillary is not naming Comey's replacement? Just ponder that for a bit.

Now, tell me again how concerned you are about Trump.

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (HV1LS)

146 Apparently the opinion says that it is unconstitutional to vest the firing decision in an administrative judge, who is just an "employee," rather than an "officer of the U.S." (i.e., a Cabinet member).

So why doesn't congress just change the law to say that the 'Secretary shall" review and approve all the decisions of administrative judges before they are final. That way the admin judge is not getting the last word on the firing, the Secretary is. Problem solved.

After all, it's not as if thousands or even hundreds of VA employees are being fired every day. So the Secretary can certainly rubber-stamp his approval on the few who do manage to get axed.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (riF5p)

147 What's wrong with Rudy?

Could be dementia setting in? He always sounds sort of intoxicated, which is almost certainly from meds. Of what sort, I dunno. Dude survived prostate cancer. He's a tough old guy and all but something's not right with him of late. I first noticed it on election night when he was interviewed on MSNBC shortly before Trump was declared winner. I thought, "damn, Rudy's drunk off his ass! Good for him!" Because of Trump's unlikely win and all. Check out the coverage on YouTube.

But he's been the same in every interview I've seen since then.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (ul9CR)

148

Ray Kelly. I want Gowdy where he is

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 04:59 PM (JgG+K)

149 That and the cancer treatments take a toll even if you are cured.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 10, 2017 04:57 PM (QQ+il)

This is true. Better than the alternative, but never the same.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 10, 2017 04:59 PM (sEDyY)

150 Democrats are felons.

Posted by: Chris M at May 10, 2017 04:59 PM (eAZVt)

151 Doesn't matter, Rudy says he is not a candidate for FBI director.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 04:59 PM (EV+4+)

152 Then HR comes to my office later and says they heard there may have been an incident. I said I have no idea what you're talking about get the heck out of my office.

What the hell has this world come to?

Posted by: Marcus T

--

You could always go visit the girl and tell her that you will go to HR if she doesn't put out.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (7ZVPa)

153 #140 Wasn't Giuliani up for AG? And didn't he decline based on Trump's rules about taking money from certain kinds of interests?

If that was true about the AG position, then it stands to reason that it would also be true for FBI.

Thanks-when I alluded to "questionable ties" above, this is what I was dimly remembering.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (ul9CR)

154

Rudy has baggage. As does Christie. And they are too political and campaigned for Trump

Ray Kelly

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (JgG+K)

155 Ray Kelly or Trey Gowdy would be good choices, right?

Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (a0IVu)

156 Ray Kelly former NYPD Chief of Police.

Too steeped in politics.

You need a real ass kicker.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (o+pgY)

157 I recently learned that BEN ROTHLISBERGER has a tavern in my town. The Savannah Taproom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (PY9jH)

IT'S CALLED THAT BECAUSE IT SERVES BEER. ON TAP. AND IT'S IN SAVANNAH.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (HV1LS)

158 Let's face it, comrades. We have no representation in Washington City (what the CSA called it). Now what was the reason for that war again?

Posted by: Eromero at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (zLDYs)

159 FBI Director Jeanine Pirro.

BOOM.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (PY9jH)

160 You could always go visit the girl and tell her that you will go to HR if she doesn't put out.

Nefarious.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 10, 2017 05:01 PM (QQ+il)

161 Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 10, 2017 04:58 PM (QQ+il)

It's pretty clear that Trump appreciates spunky, competent women. Not exactly the profile of a misogynistic perv.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 10, 2017 05:01 PM (sEDyY)

162 159
FBI Director Jeanine Pirro.

BOOM.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (PY9jH)
OMG...that would be amazing on so many levels.

Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 05:01 PM (a0IVu)

163 2 - Aren't you glad Hillary is not naming Comey's replacement? Just ponder that for a bit.

It could've been me, mom! IT COULD'VE BEEN ME!!!

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at May 10, 2017 05:01 PM (qJhUV)

164

Kelly is an ass kicker

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 05:02 PM (JgG+K)

165 157 I recently learned that BEN ROTHLISBERGER has a tavern in my town. The Savannah Taproom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (PY9jH)

IT'S CALLED THAT BECAUSE IT SERVES BEER. ON TAP. AND IT'S IN SAVANNAH.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (HV1LS)

Do they serve Rothlisburgers?

Posted by: josephistan at May 10, 2017 05:02 PM (7HtZB)

166 FBI Director Jeanine Pirro.

Oh, man. It moved.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 05:02 PM (ul9CR)

167 "You could always go visit the girl and tell her that you will go to HR if she doesn't put out."

That terrible. And I sanitized my word choice so as not to offend the sensitive pallets of th HQ's morons.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:02 PM (WYzZJ)

168 Girl at work touches my shoulder today during a conversation with other people around and says "wow, you have rock hard shoulders". Me, I kinda blushed. It was a little weird. Another person comes up to me afterwards and states I should report her to HR. I was like, "the fook" who does that? Then HR comes to my office later and says they heard there may have been an incident. I said I have no idea what you're talking about get the heck out of my office.

What the hell has this world come to?

Its all about *power*. The powers that be have indoctrinated others into believing that any act that takes away individual confidence and control is somehow a good thing. Its the reason why the attack on the family has been so strong and so sustained. One or more people at your work at have either willingly or unwittingly bought into the program, and would prefer that you and your co-workers NOT trust each other to handle things with confidence and control. Its all about power, and concentrating it at the "state" level and removing it from the individual.

Posted by: Crusader at May 10, 2017 05:03 PM (ewSN2)

169 Rudy has or had his own international security company which would be the issue.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 05:03 PM (EV+4+)

170 Don't get stuck on names you know for FBI director.

Ever heard of Rod Rosenstein before? No, but turns out he's a brass balled ass kicker.

Betcha Trump knows where to find some more. Or knows people who know.

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2017 05:03 PM (HV1LS)

171 It's pretty clear that Trump appreciates spunky, competent women.

*considers comment*

*walks away*

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 10, 2017 05:03 PM (oVJmc)

172 166
FBI Director Jeanine Pirro.

Oh, man. It moved.

Please. A bad boob job is not a qualification. Now Giada.....

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 05:03 PM (LAe3v)

173 I recently learned that BEN ROTHLISBERGER has a tavern in my town. The Savannah Taproom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (PY9jH)

IT'S CALLED THAT BECAUSE IT SERVES BEER. ON TAP. AND IT'S IN SAVANNAH.

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at May 10, 2017 05:00 PM (HV1LS)

You left out that it's in a room.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 10, 2017 05:04 PM (qJhUV)

174 Giuliani, Christie, and Kelly support bans on black rifles and hicap mags. Fvck them.
Gowdy? I have no idea.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 10, 2017 05:04 PM (57R5r)

175
Pirro is too political. But I would love it. Her husband is shady as hell though, lots of legal issues

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 05:04 PM (JgG+K)

176 They really seem to want the guillotines ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 10, 2017 05:04 PM (zvwMx)

177 173: just stay out of the restrooms there.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 10, 2017 05:04 PM (KP5rU)

178 You left out that it's in a room.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 10, 2017 05:04 PM (qJhUV)

WELL DUH IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE NAME! WHAT ARE YOU, DENSE?

Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at May 10, 2017 05:05 PM (HV1LS)

179 What about Ross Rodstein?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2017 05:05 PM (IqV8l)

180 I've seen Jeanine Piro in person. She's actually very hot for her age and has some gutter vocabulary whe she gets pissed off.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:05 PM (WYzZJ)

181
Huckabee's kid is a lot better than Sean Spicer as press sec.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 05:06 PM (cjXKD)

182 She's actually very hot for her age

So is magma.

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 05:06 PM (LAe3v)

183 NYC, NYC NJ and Gowdy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2017 05:06 PM (IqV8l)

184 Another vote here for Cruz as FBI Director.

Posted by: ShainS at May 10, 2017 05:07 PM (nBFBj)

185 46 The Merit Systems Protection Board. The deepest, slimiest and most entrenched part of the swamp.
______________________

Yes, that's the real problem. They have set up an absolutely ludicrous system where the federal employee can never be fired or disciplined for any infraction, no matter how f-cking incompetent, criminal, insane, whatever, the employee is.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 10, 2017 05:07 PM (riF5p)

186 I've seen Jeanine Piro in person. She's actually very hot for her age and has some gutter vocabulary whe she gets pissed off.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:05 PM (WYzZJ)

Which would be kind of awesome. "Get that f*cking c*nt Hillary in my office. NOW!"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 05:07 PM (PY9jH)

187

Pirros husband has prolly been a target of the FBI

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 05:07 PM (JgG+K)

188 The probables from DC Caller

Mike Rogers
Trey Gowdy
Mark Filip
Larry Thompson
Fran Townsend

Posted by: J Edgar at May 10, 2017 05:07 PM (DpOmP)

189 I recently learned that BEN ROTHLISBERGER has a tavern in my town. The Savannah Taproom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (PY9jH)

First glance I thought it was Savannah Tampon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 05:07 PM (493sH)

190 Huckabee's kid is a lot better than Sean Spicer as press sec.

Wow, that's a low bar.

Posted by: World champion limbo dancer at May 10, 2017 05:07 PM (LAe3v)

191 Another vote here for Cruz as FBI Director.

We'll need Cruz on the Supreme Court when Ruth's nap takes on a prolonged nature.

Posted by: Crusader at May 10, 2017 05:08 PM (ewSN2)

192 Schumer first suggested Ray Kelly for FBI director a number of years ago. I think around 2013. He also was in the Clinton administration. Seems like a stand up guy though and shouldn't have a problem being confirmed. He did turn down a potential offer where Freeh was eventually chosen.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 05:08 PM (EV+4+)

193 Ever heard of Rod Rosenstein before?

---

No, but apparently he is a pretty good center fielder for the UVA softball team.

Posted by: Frenzel Le Indolant at May 10, 2017 05:08 PM (FvR1t)

194 99
Where the hell are you guys getting that this was a Ninth Circuit decision?

It was a Federal Circuit decision. The Federal Circuit is based in DC.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/Circuit%20Map.pdf

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (mf5HN)

Since the felonies and firing occurred in AZ I assumed it was the 9th circus because you normally try cases where the crime occurred.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2017 05:08 PM (mpXpK)

195

Ahhhh. She finally divorced him in 2013

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 05:08 PM (JgG+K)

196 The probables from DC Caller

Mike Rogers

Please tell me you're joking.

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 05:08 PM (LAe3v)

197 I recently learned that BEN ROTHLISBERGER has a tavern in my town. The Savannah Taproom.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 04:53 PM (PY9jH)

First glance I thought it was Savannah Tampon
Posted by: TheQuietMan

White, uptight, & outta sight!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (o+pgY)

198 @34 - Spending it is the easy part. Earning is another thing.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (nILVB)

199 How about Sheriff Clarke?

Posted by: steevy at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (r/0kC)

200
There's like 5 different "Mike Rogers" in Washington, it seems.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (cjXKD)

201 I suppose PDT does have to find *something* for Kris Krispy at some point. You do have to reward your campaign supporters, after all they had a choice to make and they chose wisely, and must be repaid. And with Christie's political future as bleak as it is, he's going to want that chit honored soon.

I just hope wherever he lands, it's fairly inconsequential to our freedoms, especially 2A.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (ul9CR)

202 102
OT,
Chris Christie, Rudy Giuliani, Trey Gowdy, Ray Kelly on FBI director short list - Fox News

Posted by: IC at May 10, 2017 04:48 PM (a0IVu)

God I hope it is not that RINO Fat Man who ate NJ.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (mpXpK)

203 Ray Kelley is 75 years old.... not gonna happen

Posted by: J Edgar at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (DpOmP)

204 No one hates those who have JDs more than others who do as well.

Posted by: alexthechick - RTFBYMFMF at May 10, 2017 04:28 PM

This^^^

*juris doctoral fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 10, 2017 05:10 PM (p+Wdc)

205 I just saw a pic of Al Sharpton. One quick question: when did he get his head caught in a jar of Preparation H?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 10, 2017 05:10 PM (hJrjt)

206 How about Sheriff Clarke?

Posted by: steevy at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (r/0kC)

Dave Clark. Would that make you glad all over?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 05:10 PM (493sH)

207 Joe Manchin.

Mic drop.

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2017 05:10 PM (HV1LS)

208 I want Cruz on the SCOTUS.

It's perfect in every way, including his age.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 05:10 PM (ul9CR)

209 Out of that list, Ray Kelly is the easy choice. Giuliani is too old and Christie has too much baggage---literally.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 10, 2017 05:11 PM (7uYFy)

210 Chaffetz?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 10, 2017 05:11 PM (oVJmc)

211 The government is a well paying roach motel. You get in, you'll never get out. Even they can't get you out.

Posted by: DaveM at May 10, 2017 05:11 PM (FNtbC)

212 Clarke is kind of a buffoon

Posted by: ThunderB at May 10, 2017 05:11 PM (JgG+K)

213
"Which would be kind of awesome. "Get that f*cking c*nt Hillary in my office. NOW!"

Poland Spring on the monitor...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:11 PM (WYzZJ)

214 Can we get someone from outside Washington? We don't need politicians but somebody who knows how to run a organization. Someone who knows how fire people when don't they fail to do the job.

Posted by: dantesed at May 10, 2017 05:11 PM (88xKn)

215
Anyone been watching Huckabee's kid these last 2 days?

She does great handling the fake news fake reporters.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 05:11 PM (cjXKD)

216 Cruz for SCOTUS

Sounds good for Lee 2024

Posted by: Mike Lee at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (DpOmP)

217 I thought, "damn, Rudy's drunk off his ass! Good for him!" Because of
Trump's unlikely win and all. Check out the coverage on YouTube.

But he's been the same in every interview I've seen since then.
---
"chemo brain" is a real thing.

not everyone gets it, but...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (8M4Ih)

218 207
Joe Manchin.

Mic drop.

Posted by: blaster

A guy who has no fixed principles other than "whatever it takes to keep my seat"? Pick it back up.

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (LAe3v)

219
Bill O'Reilly. He can look out for the folks. And change the name to Female Body Inspectors

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (493sH)

220
Yeah, I think Spicer is not gonna be press sec anymore, or for much longer.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (cjXKD)

221 Funny stuff from Andrew Klavan.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/264606/

Posted by: steevy at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (r/0kC)

222 I think Cruz would be good at any position you put him in. Hold your fire but I think Romney would make an excellent Director.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (EV+4+)

223 Sheriff David Clarke for FBI Director...only because Juan Williams said he would be "appalled" if that happened.

And because Williams is a douchenozzle.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (OVmeB)

224 Judge Judy for FBI Director.

You know, since we're throwing names out.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (WYzZJ)

225

what about that Jack Bauer guy?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 05:14 PM (cjXKD)

226 Hilariously, though, if you take my view to the logical conclusion then the firing would still be unconstitutional since the entire administrative law judge system would be unconstitutional but *waves paw* let's ignore that, shall we.

Well yeah, that's exactly my concern. If this is unconstitutional then half of what goes on in Washington DC, down to having staffers write laws in congress, is unconstitutional. Is that their intent? Its the same kind of sharp focus imposition of the 14th amendment that has huge implications if taken to its logical conclusion. If you cannot treat x person differently than anyone else based on the 14th amendment then you can't do that to anyone in any circumstance.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 10, 2017 05:14 PM (39g3+)

227 I saw Manchin on TV yesterday. The man didn't look like he knew where he was and got confused several times.

Just no.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:14 PM (WYzZJ)

228 Chuck Norris. Because he was a Texas Ranger. And he's Chuck Norris.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 10, 2017 05:14 PM (qJhUV)

229 I suppose PDT does have to find *something* for Kris
Krispy at some point. You do have to reward your campaign supporters,
after all they had a choice to make and they chose wisely, and must be
repaid. And with Christie's political future as bleak as it is, he's
going to want that chit honored soon.

I just hope wherever he lands, it's fairly inconsequential to our freedoms, especially 2A.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 10, 2017 05:09 PM (ul9CR)

Make Christie Trump's food taster.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 05:14 PM (PY9jH)

230 Can we just skip right to the part where we outlaw unions for public sector jobs?

Thanks!

Posted by: TexasDan at May 10, 2017 05:14 PM (yL25O)

231 Whoever he nominates they better not have the slightest tie to Russia.I mean they better bever have even eaten borscht.

Posted by: steevy at May 10, 2017 05:15 PM (r/0kC)

232 Make Christie Trump's food taster.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

He should start at the bottom. Assistant rump swabber.

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 05:15 PM (LAe3v)

233 Uh... just need a simple damn law...

Cabinet level appointees can fire anyone under them...

The President can fire ANYONE in the administration...

Why all this board crap... why are Judges even involved...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 10, 2017 05:15 PM (NgKpN)

234 231. Unless it was before 1989, of course.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 10, 2017 05:16 PM (TwwWO)

235 How about a woman. Preferably one with nice cans and likes to wear silk blouses with no jacket.

Bet most guys wouldn't miss that testimony or press conference.

What?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:16 PM (WYzZJ)

236 Can we please just get 10 round Kelly off the moron short lst. FFS.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 10, 2017 05:17 PM (57R5r)

237 Make Christie Trump's food taster.

Trump would starve.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 10, 2017 05:17 PM (oVJmc)

238 Trump should appoint Clint Eastwood as interim FBI head.

Just for like a week or so.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 10, 2017 05:18 PM (yL25O)

239 Can we please just get 10 round Kelly off the moron short lst. FFS.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 10, 2017 05:17 PM (57R5r)

How about MeAgain Kelly? I don't think she's doing anything these days

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 10, 2017 05:18 PM (493sH)

240 A guy who has no fixed principles other than "whatever it takes to keep my seat"? Pick it back up.

Posted by: pep at May 10, 2017 05:12 PM (LAe3v)

Nah. He will do what he is told and keep his dang mouth shut.

Dems will confirm.

Ah, crap, WV governor is a Dem and he appoints.

NM.

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2017 05:18 PM (HV1LS)

241 Posted by: steevy at May 10, 2017 05:15 PM (r/0kC)

Lol, under that criteria even I wouldn't qualify. Although the borsht I had was made by a family of Polish refugees who had worked with Lech Walesa.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 10, 2017 05:19 PM (sEDyY)

242 How about MeAgain Kelly? I don't think she's doing anything these days

I WORK FOR NBC! REALLY!! I DO!!!

Posted by: Megyn Kelly at May 10, 2017 05:19 PM (qJhUV)

243 The Fat Man deserves to "reward". As I recall he was fired from the campaign committee because he lied on his interview about something significant.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2017 05:19 PM (mpXpK)

244 Machine Gun Kelly

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 10, 2017 05:19 PM (IqV8l)

245 that's NO reward

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 10, 2017 05:19 PM (mpXpK)

246
The Real Reason Comey was fired??

Comey was fired because the FBI is totally out of control. The agents are leaking info to the fake news. The agents are very politically biased. And the agents are unqualified political hacks.

Comey was fired because the FBI is still very much obama's FBI still doing things for obama and the alt-left.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 10, 2017 05:19 PM (cjXKD)

247 No love for Kimberly Guilfoyle for director? She loves to show off those boobies.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 10, 2017 05:20 PM (PY9jH)

248 Call Christie up and tell him he got the job. Then say , "nah just kidding fat boy".

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:21 PM (WYzZJ)

249 Even MSNBC is confused about the COmey reaction. There's a sequence you can watch where a reporter is trying to get Maxine Waters to make sense.

Reporter: you said Comey was incompetent, yet you oppose his firing, why?
Waters: blathers on about Russia and Trump
Reporter: so he shouldn't be fired?
Waters: yes he should be but Russia and Trump
Reporter: so let me get this straight...

Basically Waters said Comey should be fired, but not by Trump. If Hillary had been in office and fired him, then it would be fine. It was hard to watch, honestly.

But reporters aren't quite in the bag on the latest news about Eurasia.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 10, 2017 05:21 PM (39g3+)

250 Mark Keel, who is the head of the SC Law Enforcement Division.

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2017 05:21 PM (HV1LS)

251 "No love for Kimberly Guilfoyle for director? She loves to show off those boobies. "

She's a little too perky for me. So to speak.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:22 PM (WYzZJ)

252 Kimberly Gulfoyle can direct me with a riding crop while wearing thigh high boots...

Posted by: steevy at May 10, 2017 05:22 PM (r/0kC)

253 Trump needs to have The Cone of Silence installed in every cabinet level office.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 10, 2017 05:22 PM (6Ll1u)

254 Trump needs to have The Cone of Silence installed in every cabinet level office

"That thing never worked."
-Maxwell Smart

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 10, 2017 05:23 PM (39g3+)

255 205 I just saw a pic of Al Sharpton. One quick question: when did he get his head caught in a jar of Preparation H?
__________________

He had gastric bypass surgery several years ago, when he was a porker, and has apparently had lots of ongoing complications, or at least that was what was reported a few years back.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 10, 2017 05:23 PM (riF5p)

256 Kimberly would look hawt in a bulletproof vest.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 10, 2017 05:23 PM (57R5r)

257 Randall Prince, head of the Texas Rangers.

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2017 05:24 PM (HV1LS)

258 No, Trump needs that guy from Casino who beat Nicky Santoro and his brother with a baseball bat.

Bet nobody would leak then...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 10, 2017 05:25 PM (WYzZJ)

259 Why all this board crap... why are Judges even involved...
___________________

I think it was a union demand, so that the corrupt and incompetent federal workers would be "protected."

Congress should just tell the unions to go pound sand. From now on, the decision of the Secretary to fire an employee in his/her agency shall be final. And if you don't think that's fair, Mr. Employee, GFY.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 10, 2017 05:28 PM (riF5p)

260 Acting United States Attorney Brit Featherston Eastern Texas

Posted by: blaster at May 10, 2017 05:29 PM (HV1LS)

261 There's like 5 different "Mike Rogers" in Washington, it seems.
--

The one from Michigan. I think he's former FBI.

Posted by: shibumi at May 10, 2017 05:29 PM (8zWAk)

262 Also... I've been impressed by Cruz lately.

Maybe we can save him for the SCOTUS?

Posted by: shibumi at May 10, 2017 05:31 PM (8zWAk)

263 Nood tax dodger

Posted by: rickb223 at May 10, 2017 05:34 PM (o+pgY)

264 There's like 5 different "Mike Rogers" in Washington, it seems.

Surely there is a Mike Hunt. Mike Hunt for Federal Bikini Inspector Director

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 10, 2017 05:35 PM (JO9+V)

265 With all due respects, I must say I am disappointed in my fellows for missing the most clear and obvious choice for FBI director.

Joe Arpaio.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 10, 2017 05:37 PM (9krrF)

266 Cruz couldn't get 30 votes in a 63 republican Senate vote, they hate that guy. First of all he believes in the rule of law, and the constitution too much for them.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 10, 2017 05:37 PM (6Ll1u)

267 Why don't more conservatives join government service instead of just bitchini about it ?

Posted by: Him at May 10, 2017 05:42 PM (4ke74)

268 Thanks ace
Go back to the original post a few days back about finally someone was fired at the VA-
Search for mst3k in the comments
The you will find lil old me asking for the update when a judge reinstates the job with back pay

I guess we're not quite at the back pay yet, give it a few more days maybe

Posted by: Mst3k at May 10, 2017 05:46 PM (SbaWv)

269 267 Why don't more conservatives join government service instead of just bitchini about it ?
Posted by: Him at May 10, 2017 05:42 PM (4ke74)

As someone who is in the Civil Cervix, I will tell you why: because for most of us, it would be insufferable. The nonsense and folly I must account for (I am just a accountant / bookkeeper here) would nauseate you, assuming you are not a Commiecrat, from health care services for the "undocumented" to "managed risk medical insurance" for the "chronically underserved" substance abusers.

But I hate the *game* not the players caught up in it.

Me? I was priced out of the desirable Coastal areas of my state and found myself in the affordable Interior state capitol. Like the Borg in Star Trek, if you live in the Sacramento area long enough, you will be assimilated one way or another by government.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 10, 2017 06:06 PM (ujg0T)

270 265 With all due respects, I must say I am disappointed in my fellows for missing the most clear and obvious choice for FBI director.

Joe Arpaio.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 10, 2017 05:37 PM (9krrF)

US Border Patrol?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 10, 2017 06:07 PM (ujg0T)

271 Heeheehee

Posted by: Someone Else at May 10, 2017 06:26 PM (UTfP3)

272 I worked at the Asheville, NC, VA for 4 years. The problem with the VA is the same problem across the country, liberals. The fuckers have infested the system, hate the military and are in it for themselves. Yes there are good providers, but overall they are fucking scum. I am still a patient there unfortunately, but go only when I absolutely have to. Fuck the VA.

Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF at May 10, 2017 07:31 PM (YXf+c)

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