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Branson's Spaceport is not in California [KT]
A week ago yesterday, CDR M linked a story about California's plan to add more taxes to rocket launches from California. One of the people planning to launch some rockets is Richard Branson. He also plans to save the earth from carbon dioxide. This seems kind of Jerry Brown-ish, but does not seem compatible with launching rockets into space.
Richard Branson runs an airline and wants to fly billionaires to space, but ride your bike to work, peasant.
Richard Branson vs. Karl Marx
Some academic types seem to have a problem with Branson's Green Capitalism.On 21 September 2006 UK uber-entrepreneur and Virgin Group Chairman Richard Branson pledged approximately 1.6 billion [pounds sterling], the equivalent of all the profits from Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Trains for the next ten years, to fighting climate change. Since then, Branson has restated his commitment to action on global warming, including investment in technologies for sequestering carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.So, what's the problem?
I am particularly interested in the role of the entrepreneurial subject in environmental policy and environmental action. There are glaring problems associated with green capitalism as a mash-up of environmentalism with capitalism. One of these is the tethering of environmentalism to a political economy whose mantra is growth for growth's sake, or, in Marx's terms, accumulation for accumulation's sake.Karl Marx would have opposed "the tethering of environmentalism to a political economy". Heh. They never learn. Richard Branson and Political Economies You have to admit that Richard Branson knows his way around "political economies". He credits his dyslexia with his ability to think in unusual yet simple, straightforward ways.
When Virgin Group founder Richard Branson announces that he's starting a sperm bank that will accept only donors with dyslexia, that could mean one of two things: He is actually spearheading a strange, though laudable, initiative to reduce stigma around dyslexia. Or it could be the company's annual April Fools' Day prank. Unfortunately, it's probably a prank.Sounds discriminatory to me. Notice that even some of his admirers aren't quite sure what his real intentions are . . . Back in February, an alert reader sent in a link to a news piece on Barak and Michelle chillin' hard on Sir Richard Branson's eco-themed private island, Mosquito Island. (Or Moskito Island. Whatever. Are celebrities immune to Zika?) It's near Branson's luxurious private resort for the rich and famous on Necker Island. I'm so thrilled that someone got photos for posterity.
The new rules, based on formulae used for terrestrial transport industries, appear to ensure that a California-based company like SpaceX won't be excessively taxed for revenue generated by launches in other states, while Colorado-based ULA pays its fair share for using California spaceports. . . There is some fear of government overreach at work: The only orbital spaceport in California--that is, the only one where the FAA allows the launch of large payloads into orbit, rather than jaunts to the edge of space--is at Vandenberg Air Force Base, about three hours north of Los Angeles. . . . . . With the pace of launches expected to increase in the years ahead, US rocket companies that depend on the site did not want to be vulnerable to sudden changes in tax rules. Setting the new formula in stone, one California lobbyist says, will reduce their fear of future hikes."Some" fear of government overreach? Branson's Spaceport America Branson did not leave himself dependent on the whims of California government, however. Even though he builds rockets in Mojave, California, he planned years ago to launch them from his own spaceport in New Mexico. Spaceport America is pretty much in the middle of nowhere, in the
Chihuahuan Desert. Reportedly chosen because there is so little air traffic over the area. There are no space flights yet, but there was a drone summit last year.
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Such a weird looking guy.
Posted by: NCKate at May 13, 2017 11:08 AM (KDsfS)
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time to make lunch
I hope it stops raining soon. Puppy goes crazy when he goes out in the rain. I think he transforms into a jumping shark.
I hope it stops raining soon. Puppy goes crazy when he goes out in the rain. I think he transforms into a jumping shark.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 13, 2017 11:11 AM (hMwEB)
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Last!
There are a great many people whose success I simply don't understand, based largely on how irresponsible and outright loony their public personae are.
There are a great many people whose success I simply don't understand, based largely on how irresponsible and outright loony their public personae are.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 13, 2017 11:12 AM (ywNoU)
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There are a great many people whose success I simply don't understand, based largely on how irresponsible and outright loony their public personae are.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 13, 2017 11:12 AM (ywNoU
The Cosmo Kramer Effect, writ large.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 13, 2017 11:12 AM (ywNoU
The Cosmo Kramer Effect, writ large.
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at May 13, 2017 11:14 AM (IWkc4)
Posted by: Javems at May 13, 2017 11:14 AM (yOqwj)
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I'm watching the Roger Stone special on Netflix.
It's kind of a hoot.
It's kind of a hoot.
Posted by: navybrat at May 13, 2017 11:15 AM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Chris M at May 13, 2017 11:15 AM (6RZos)
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Today Ruth Bader Ginsburg was thrown on the shoulders of an angry man trying to put her in an Egyptian sarcophagus. Witnesses said that the disheveled man wore a fedora and a whip, and was said to shout out "This belongs in a museum."
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 13, 2017 11:15 AM (RCzXI)
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Anyone who wants to share a vacation with Barack Obama who isn't part of his family-I have concerns about. Granted I'm not a leftist, but I wouldn't enjoy spending time with him-at least once he started talking and we were not eating gourmet food..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (fDdVG)
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Some sort of tubby tabby-coated weasel just jumped out of the bathroom onto a piece of cardboard that was headed for recycling, and slid across the hardwood floor into the kitchen table. Kind of like a rocket launch.
Not too bright, that cat. Makes cute little chirps when you nuzzle her, though.
Not too bright, that cat. Makes cute little chirps when you nuzzle her, though.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (8nWyX)
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I'm sure Fenelon came across as salt of the earth without being salty, thanks to the always-wise counsel of Teh Horde.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (YKL8E)
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SpaceX will land on Mars before Branson flies a paying customer. Yet the MSM regards Branson as the face of commercial spaceflight.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Kim Il Sung at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (9Q5BJ)
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Yeah, I read that whole thing, and must admit I do not understand any of it.
I don't know what Virgin is... is that a record company? This guy with the white hair, I know he's famous for doing flights and stuff, right? He flew something somewhere, at some point?
So now Californica is chasing away private rocket launchers with their tax policy? Is that right?
I don't get it. And the environmentalists are squeamish about rocket launches because of all the fuel being used? Or they're not?
I'm so confused.
I don't know what Virgin is... is that a record company? This guy with the white hair, I know he's famous for doing flights and stuff, right? He flew something somewhere, at some point?
So now Californica is chasing away private rocket launchers with their tax policy? Is that right?
I don't get it. And the environmentalists are squeamish about rocket launches because of all the fuel being used? Or they're not?
I'm so confused.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:17 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2017 11:20 AM (YKL8E)
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>>There are a great many people whose success I simply don't understand, based largely on how irresponsible and outright loony their public personae are.
I think it helps to explain it when you realize they don't mean a thing they say in public. Branson comes across in public as Mr Philanthropist but he is a shark when it comes to his own finances.
He bought Necker in the 70's for $180K. It was for sale for $5 million. And it is paradise. How he pulled that off I will never know.
I think it helps to explain it when you realize they don't mean a thing they say in public. Branson comes across in public as Mr Philanthropist but he is a shark when it comes to his own finances.
He bought Necker in the 70's for $180K. It was for sale for $5 million. And it is paradise. How he pulled that off I will never know.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 11:20 AM (/tuJf)
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He has dyslexia? Does that mean he gets owt scoops of ice cream or eno?
He has dyslexia? Does that mean he gets owt scoops of ice cream or eno?
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 11:23 AM (HTdUD)
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Yeah, I read that whole thing, and must admit I do not understand any of it.
I think the point of the post is: Richard Branson. He's famous for being a famous billionaire. 'Virgin' is the name he seems to give all his ventures, like Virgin Airlines.
I think the point of the post is: Richard Branson. He's famous for being a famous billionaire. 'Virgin' is the name he seems to give all his ventures, like Virgin Airlines.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2017 11:23 AM (TqmC9)
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (YKL8E)
Thanks; They didn't run shrieking from the room when I came in, so either they're not completely appalled at my becoming their pastor in July or they're just polite church people and didn't show their dismay. I didn't even feel the least bit inclined to use a swear word, however so that's good. ;^)
Thanks; They didn't run shrieking from the room when I came in, so either they're not completely appalled at my becoming their pastor in July or they're just polite church people and didn't show their dismay. I didn't even feel the least bit inclined to use a swear word, however so that's good. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2017 11:23 AM (fDdVG)
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Man arrested after "masturbating vigorously" in public because he "hates Portland"
http://tinyurl.com/m4v36q3
*slow head shake*
http://tinyurl.com/m4v36q3
*slow head shake*
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 13, 2017 11:27 AM (EjfPg)
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Yeah, I read that whole thing, and must admit I do not understand any of it.
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I think the point of the post is: Richard Branson. He's famous for being a famous billionaire. 'Virgin' is the name he seems to give all his ventures, like Virgin Airlines.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2017 11:23 AM (TqmC9)
Any time we talk about primitive cultures, where cowering natives sat around terrified by the witch doctors and shaman lords, we shake our heads at the poor gullible simple minded fools.
And then we hear about guys like this. All flash and smoke, and the huddled fools sit around and worship them.
Progress for the human race is an illusion. It's witch doctory in and of itself.
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I think the point of the post is: Richard Branson. He's famous for being a famous billionaire. 'Virgin' is the name he seems to give all his ventures, like Virgin Airlines.
Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2017 11:23 AM (TqmC9)
Any time we talk about primitive cultures, where cowering natives sat around terrified by the witch doctors and shaman lords, we shake our heads at the poor gullible simple minded fools.
And then we hear about guys like this. All flash and smoke, and the huddled fools sit around and worship them.
Progress for the human race is an illusion. It's witch doctory in and of itself.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:29 AM (Pz4pT)
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The island reportedly has accommodations for 34 adults and 6 children. Interesting ratio
Sounds like a five-star pizzeria!
Sounds like a five-star pizzeria!
Posted by: Jon Pedœsta at May 13, 2017 11:29 AM (hBig8)
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1 Such a weird looking guy.
Posted by: NCKate at May 13, 2017 11:08 AM (KDsfS)
Yeah. And where's that thumb been?
Posted by: NCKate at May 13, 2017 11:08 AM (KDsfS)
Yeah. And where's that thumb been?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay at May 13, 2017 11:30 AM (SRKgf)
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20 Man arrested after "masturbating vigorously" in public because he "hates Portland"
http://tinyurl.com/m4v36q3
*slow head shake*
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 13, 2017 11:27 AM (EjfPg)
Sure, lots of people hate Portland, but ...
http://tinyurl.com/m4v36q3
*slow head shake*
Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 13, 2017 11:27 AM (EjfPg)
Sure, lots of people hate Portland, but ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay at May 13, 2017 11:31 AM (SRKgf)
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Yup, I hate Portland too.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 13, 2017 11:32 AM (1L9V9)
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Man arrested after "masturbating vigorously" in public because he "hates Portland"
But I claim sanctuary! This is a sanctuary city!
But I claim sanctuary! This is a sanctuary city!
Posted by: Furiously Masturbating in Portland at May 13, 2017 11:32 AM (hBig8)
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12 SpaceX will land on Mars before Branson flies a paying customer. Yet the MSM regards Branson as the face of commercial spaceflight.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (sdi6R)
The MSM is all about personalities and palace intrigue. It's one big high school yearbook committee.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (sdi6R)
The MSM is all about personalities and palace intrigue. It's one big high school yearbook committee.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 11:32 AM (394Mh)
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Richard Branson is not that bad a looking guy, he photographs well, but looks better with some hair coloring.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kukbkqw
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kukbkqw
Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2017 11:32 AM (mkDpn)
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7 Branson's sub-orbital scam is not what I consider a "rocket".
Posted by: Chris M at May 13, 2017 11:15 AM (6RZos)
It is a rocket-powered plane. It's supposed to fly to the edge of space like the X-15 did in the 50s and 60s, only carrying paying passengers instead of Air Force test pilots. It's a nice idea, but it doesn't seem to be working out.
Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin, utilizing a vertical takeoff and landing rocket, with a capsule separating and landing by parachute, is a lot closer to carrying passengers.
It doesn't bother me that only rich people can afford to do this. That's the case with any new technology. In the early days of motor cars, the only people who had them were amateur mechanics who built their own from scratch, or rich people who could pay a mechanic for a hand-built car.
It wasn't so long ago that only rich people could afford a flat-screen TV. Eventually the price came down, and they become not only cheaper but more reliable. So if rich people want to be the first to buy a new gizmo, that's fine. It works out for everybody in the long run.
Posted by: Chris M at May 13, 2017 11:15 AM (6RZos)
It is a rocket-powered plane. It's supposed to fly to the edge of space like the X-15 did in the 50s and 60s, only carrying paying passengers instead of Air Force test pilots. It's a nice idea, but it doesn't seem to be working out.
Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin, utilizing a vertical takeoff and landing rocket, with a capsule separating and landing by parachute, is a lot closer to carrying passengers.
It doesn't bother me that only rich people can afford to do this. That's the case with any new technology. In the early days of motor cars, the only people who had them were amateur mechanics who built their own from scratch, or rich people who could pay a mechanic for a hand-built car.
It wasn't so long ago that only rich people could afford a flat-screen TV. Eventually the price came down, and they become not only cheaper but more reliable. So if rich people want to be the first to buy a new gizmo, that's fine. It works out for everybody in the long run.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:34 AM (sdi6R)
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Two parrots walk in a bar. Blah blah blah.
Blah blah.
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Dislexic sperm bank.
Thank you very much try the veal tip the waitress.
Blah blah.
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Dislexic sperm bank.
Thank you very much try the veal tip the waitress.
Posted by: 80's music fan at May 13, 2017 11:34 AM (rgcdu)
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Morning All.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 13, 2017 11:35 AM (QTOyx)
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Look if we would just increase tthe minimum wage evryone could fly into space!!!
Posted by: Some moron at May 13, 2017 11:36 AM (E8apb)
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I think it helps to explain it when you realize they don't mean a thing they say in public. Branson comes across in public as Mr Philanthropist but he is a shark when it comes to his own finances.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 11:20 AM (/tuJf)
Partly a cultural thing, in his case, I suspect. Brits typically view life as a zero sum game, so that if someone gets rich, it must have been at the expense of other people.* For this reason, they tend to look askance at self-made men, in direct and shocking contrast with Americans.
I suspect Branson is trying to defuse that image with his philanthropy and twee-leftist pronouncements.
* Paradoxically, Brit also typically do not disparage those who inherited wealth, as it was not their fault that they were born to it.
Separated by a common lannguage, indeed.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 11:20 AM (/tuJf)
Partly a cultural thing, in his case, I suspect. Brits typically view life as a zero sum game, so that if someone gets rich, it must have been at the expense of other people.* For this reason, they tend to look askance at self-made men, in direct and shocking contrast with Americans.
I suspect Branson is trying to defuse that image with his philanthropy and twee-leftist pronouncements.
* Paradoxically, Brit also typically do not disparage those who inherited wealth, as it was not their fault that they were born to it.
Separated by a common lannguage, indeed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay at May 13, 2017 11:36 AM (SRKgf)
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Haha I saw Richard Branson and Karl Marx and all I could think of was Richard Marx.
Posted by: AllMyFriendsAreLefties at May 13, 2017 11:36 AM (K8P1X)
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Could someone please do an "I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for..." because I just can't be bothered to put in the effort. Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
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35 Could someone please do an "I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for..." because I just can't be bothered to put in the effort. Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
Well I'm out. not enough cawfee yet.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
Well I'm out. not enough cawfee yet.
Posted by: Some moron at May 13, 2017 11:38 AM (E8apb)
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6 I'm watching the Roger Stone special on Netflix.
It's kind of a hoot.
Posted by: navybrat at May 13, 2017 11:15 AM (w7KSn)
It's worthwhile? I saw it and the associated commentary re Trump, and figured it was a leftist hit job.
It's kind of a hoot.
Posted by: navybrat at May 13, 2017 11:15 AM (w7KSn)
It's worthwhile? I saw it and the associated commentary re Trump, and figured it was a leftist hit job.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay at May 13, 2017 11:38 AM (SRKgf)
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It wasn't so long ago that only rich people could afford a flat-screen TV. Eventually the price came down, and they become not only cheaper but more reliable. So if rich people want to be the first to buy a new gizmo, that's fine. It works out for everybody in the long run.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:34 AM (sdi6R)
So that's where some of my confusion comes from.
Is this guy, or any of the other billionaires trying to get to space, doing it for the capitalistic benefits, or are they lefty do-gooders?
Or is the lefty-do-goodism a necessary front to put up, so they can keep the politicians off their arses, so they can actually do this stuff?
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:34 AM (sdi6R)
So that's where some of my confusion comes from.
Is this guy, or any of the other billionaires trying to get to space, doing it for the capitalistic benefits, or are they lefty do-gooders?
Or is the lefty-do-goodism a necessary front to put up, so they can keep the politicians off their arses, so they can actually do this stuff?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (Pz4pT)
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"I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for..." Clearance Creedwater Revival at the Milfore in 1396.
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (IWkc4)
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35 Could someone please do an "I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for..." because I just can't be bothered to put in the effort. Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
In 1977 I saw Blackfoot close for Dyslexic Sperm Bank.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
In 1977 I saw Blackfoot close for Dyslexic Sperm Bank.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (394Mh)
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Could someone please do an "I saw Dyslexic Sperm
Bank open for..." because I just can't be bothered to put in the effort.
Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
They opened for Rabbit Choir at the Clinton Street Theater. I wasn't there, but they talked about it when the played the WOW hall the next weekend in Eugene.
Bank open for..." because I just can't be bothered to put in the effort.
Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
They opened for Rabbit Choir at the Clinton Street Theater. I wasn't there, but they talked about it when the played the WOW hall the next weekend in Eugene.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (mkDpn)
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Maybe the guy in Portland was trying to make a deposit in the Dyslexic Sperm Bank.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay at May 13, 2017 11:40 AM (SRKgf)
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Could someone please do an "I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for..." because I just can't be bothered to put in the effort. Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
Well I'm out. not enough cawfee yet.
Posted by: Some moron at May 13, 2017 11:38 AM (E8apb)
I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for the Butthole Roofers at the Copabanana in '69. Or was it '96?
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
Well I'm out. not enough cawfee yet.
Posted by: Some moron at May 13, 2017 11:38 AM (E8apb)
I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for the Butthole Roofers at the Copabanana in '69. Or was it '96?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:41 AM (Pz4pT)
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Richard Branson is Mister Mxyzptlk's arch-nemesis.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 11:43 AM (394Mh)
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I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for the Butthole Roofers at the Copabanana in '69. Or was it '96?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:41 AM (Pz4pT)
69. I remember that for some reason.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:41 AM (Pz4pT)
69. I remember that for some reason.
Posted by: Some moron at May 13, 2017 11:43 AM (E8apb)
Posted by: navybrat at May 13, 2017 11:43 AM (w7KSn)
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Could someone please do an "I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for..." because I just can't be bothered to put in the effort. Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
I was Dyslexic Sperm Bank, opened for...
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:37 AM (8nWyX)
I was Dyslexic Sperm Bank, opened for...
Posted by: Sandy Fluke at May 13, 2017 11:44 AM (Pz4pT)
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Once you pass by a certain level of wealth you can ignore the consequences of your actions. Most people recognize this in persons and corporations but are unable to recognize it in governments.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 13, 2017 11:44 AM (e1mEI)
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My wife and I spent a night in a motel in Truth or Consequences during a long trip from the Coachella Valley back home to Manitoba.
I guess we did not see the interesting side of T or C. I wouldn't call it the end of the world but you could see it from there.
But it was just a night at the end of a long, tiring day of driving.
I guess we did not see the interesting side of T or C. I wouldn't call it the end of the world but you could see it from there.
But it was just a night at the end of a long, tiring day of driving.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 13, 2017 11:44 AM (hJrjt)
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Huh. I want to state here and now that I am all for billionaires being launched into space.
Is there any way we can choose which ones?
Is there any way we can choose which ones?
Posted by: Rosasharn at May 13, 2017 11:44 AM (PzBTm)
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Charles Bronson will surely bring the flag back from Mars.
Posted by: Sheila Jaaaaackson Lee at May 13, 2017 11:45 AM (Tyii7)
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Is this guy, or any of the other billionaires trying to get to space, doing it for the capitalistic benefits, or are they lefty do-gooders?
Or is the lefty-do-goodism a necessary front to put up, so they can keep the politicians off their arses, so they can actually do this stuff?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (Pz4pT)
Those are good questions. I don't know.
And this thread will be dead by the time I finish typing out my full answer.
Is this guy, or any of the other billionaires trying to get to space, doing it for the capitalistic benefits, or are they lefty do-gooders?
Or is the lefty-do-goodism a necessary front to put up, so they can keep the politicians off their arses, so they can actually do this stuff?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (Pz4pT)
Those are good questions. I don't know.
And this thread will be dead by the time I finish typing out my full answer.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:45 AM (sdi6R)
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48 Once you pass by a certain level of wealth you can ignore the consequences of your actions. Most people recognize this in persons and corporations but are unable to recognize it in governments.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 13, 2017 11:44 AM (e1mEI)
I like that. Bitch endlessly about the Evil Walmart...but the government? Not so much.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 13, 2017 11:44 AM (e1mEI)
I like that. Bitch endlessly about the Evil Walmart...but the government? Not so much.
Posted by: Some moron at May 13, 2017 11:45 AM (E8apb)
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I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for the Butthole Roofers at the Copabanana in '69. Or was it '96?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:41 AM (Pz4pT)
Redo:
I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for the Butthole Roofers at the Pocabanana in '69 or '96.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:41 AM (Pz4pT)
Redo:
I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for the Butthole Roofers at the Pocabanana in '69 or '96.
Posted by: Sandy Fluke at May 13, 2017 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 13, 2017 11:46 AM (0LaWm)
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Stop taking credit for my work, slut Sandy.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2017 11:46 AM (Pz4pT)
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51 Charles Bronson will surely bring the flag back from Mars.
Posted by: Sheila Jaaaaackson Lee at May 13, 2017 11:45 AM (Tyii7)
Sure. And here was real moon landing too right?
/conspiracy guy
Posted by: Sheila Jaaaaackson Lee at May 13, 2017 11:45 AM (Tyii7)
Sure. And here was real moon landing too right?
/conspiracy guy
Posted by: Some moron at May 13, 2017 11:47 AM (E8apb)
58
Mostly, T or C doesn't look like the picture in the post. But hey, enjoy the nice part.
Branson. . .is an extremely talented bullshit artist. And underneath, he's a very sharp businessman. He's Donald Trump with polish and unctuous style.
Really, he is Trump with somewhat better hair.
Branson. . .is an extremely talented bullshit artist. And underneath, he's a very sharp businessman. He's Donald Trump with polish and unctuous style.
Really, he is Trump with somewhat better hair.
Posted by: Gordon at May 13, 2017 11:48 AM (wtd2Z)
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Anyone that wants to control your means of travel is a despot.
Read your Herbert, that was Leto II's way of keeping the population cowed and primitive.
Read your Herbert, that was Leto II's way of keeping the population cowed and primitive.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 11:48 AM (394Mh)
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12 SpaceX will land on Mars before Branson flies a paying customer. Yet the MSM regards Branson as the face of commercial spaceflight.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (sdi6R)
The thing is, SpaceX is actually doing real work in space, even considering the gov't subsidy stuff that goes behind the scenes. Building infrastructure through satellite launches, and resupply missions to the ISS, those are real jobs. Real jobs, with real implications for expanding Man's reach into space.
Space Virgin, or whateverthefuck he calls it has no ambitions beyond being a Space Roller Coaster in order to Handi-Vac billionaires' wallets.
12 SpaceX will land on Mars before Branson flies a paying customer. Yet the MSM regards Branson as the face of commercial spaceflight.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:16 AM (sdi6R)
The thing is, SpaceX is actually doing real work in space, even considering the gov't subsidy stuff that goes behind the scenes. Building infrastructure through satellite launches, and resupply missions to the ISS, those are real jobs. Real jobs, with real implications for expanding Man's reach into space.
Space Virgin, or whateverthefuck he calls it has no ambitions beyond being a Space Roller Coaster in order to Handi-Vac billionaires' wallets.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 13, 2017 11:49 AM (quw2O)
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 11:49 AM (HTdUD)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2017 11:50 AM (6FqZa)
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Dick Branson should really follow his genetic code and open a sperm bank for assholes only.
Al Gore, Barry and their sycophants can all make a donation and then Dick can shoot their seed into space for posterity.
Or snowball their loads...whatever makes him happy.
Al Gore, Barry and their sycophants can all make a donation and then Dick can shoot their seed into space for posterity.
Or snowball their loads...whatever makes him happy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2017 11:53 AM (5VlCp)
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63 Dick Branson should really follow his genetic code and open a sperm bank for assholes only.
Al Gore, Barry and their sycophants can all make a donation and then Dick can shoot their seed into space for posterity.
Or snowball their loads...whatever makes him happy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2017 11:53 AM (5VlCp)
If JEF offered a sperm free-for-all, he'd have more decedents than Jenjis Khan.
Al Gore, Barry and their sycophants can all make a donation and then Dick can shoot their seed into space for posterity.
Or snowball their loads...whatever makes him happy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2017 11:53 AM (5VlCp)
If JEF offered a sperm free-for-all, he'd have more decedents than Jenjis Khan.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 11:54 AM (394Mh)
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If JEF offered a sperm free-for-all, he'd have more decedents than Jenjis Khan.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 11:54 AM (394Mh)
A deliciously apt typo.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 11:54 AM (394Mh)
A deliciously apt typo.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 13, 2017 11:56 AM (8nWyX)
66
I saw Dyslexic Sperm Bank open for Schwa at Palace nroC in 6791.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 13, 2017 11:58 AM (tr2D7)
67
A little history of rocketry:
After the small experimental liquid-fueled rockets in the 1920s and 30s, the first practical rocket that could perform a useful task was the German V-2 in the 1940s.
But it was basically a large, long-range artillery shell.
In the 1950s, after the US and USSR had developed nuclear weapons, larger rockets were designed to carry nuclear warheads half a world away. They were known as Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles, or ICBMs.
Beginning in 1957, modified ICBMs were used to launch satellites into orbit, and shortly thereafter man-carrying vehicles. And the rest is history.
The point being, none of these rockets were designed to be reusable. Like an artillery shell, they were only fired once.
Developing recoverable and reusable rockets is the hot thing today, and is necessary to bring down the cost of spaceflight, which will make it more accessible to everybody.
After the small experimental liquid-fueled rockets in the 1920s and 30s, the first practical rocket that could perform a useful task was the German V-2 in the 1940s.
But it was basically a large, long-range artillery shell.
In the 1950s, after the US and USSR had developed nuclear weapons, larger rockets were designed to carry nuclear warheads half a world away. They were known as Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles, or ICBMs.
Beginning in 1957, modified ICBMs were used to launch satellites into orbit, and shortly thereafter man-carrying vehicles. And the rest is history.
The point being, none of these rockets were designed to be reusable. Like an artillery shell, they were only fired once.
Developing recoverable and reusable rockets is the hot thing today, and is necessary to bring down the cost of spaceflight, which will make it more accessible to everybody.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:59 AM (sdi6R)
68
Earl of Melancholy is almost as funny as Duke of Earl
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:00 PM (7dpmG)
69
The more government regulates, the more the biggest players can buy policy favorable to themselves and only themselves.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:01 PM (oVJmc)
70
these assholes should have listened to rick james beeeoch.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 13, 2017 12:03 PM (KP5rU)
71
I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. It would seem they should tend toward free enterprise and small government. But that would make sense.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 13, 2017 12:04 PM (hJrjt)
72
Can I still complain about Walmart bathrooms?
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:05 PM (7dpmG)
73
So if rich people want to be the first to buy a new gizmo, that's fine. It works out for everybody in the long run.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:34 AM (sdi6R)
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So you're saying you're not a Socialist then.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 11:34 AM (sdi6R)
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So you're saying you're not a Socialist then.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at May 13, 2017 12:05 PM (oPl0w)
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71 I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. It would seem they should tend toward free enterprise and small government. But that would make sense.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 13, 2017 12:04 PM (hJrjt)
Government power and regulation protects their interests from small upstarts.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 13, 2017 12:04 PM (hJrjt)
Government power and regulation protects their interests from small upstarts.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 13, 2017 12:07 PM (394Mh)
75
20 Man arrested after "masturbating vigorously" in public because he "hates Portland"
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So it was a hate 'bate?
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So it was a hate 'bate?
Posted by: @votermom @vm at May 13, 2017 12:07 PM (hMwEB)
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>>I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. It would seem they should tend toward free enterprise and small government. But that would make sense.
1. Playing the lefty is good PR. Leftwing bullshit sounds good to the masses.
2. Pulling the ladder up behind you is a well traveled path for many rich. It's hard to be exclusive when you leave the door open for others.
1. Playing the lefty is good PR. Leftwing bullshit sounds good to the masses.
2. Pulling the ladder up behind you is a well traveled path for many rich. It's hard to be exclusive when you leave the door open for others.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
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"I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. "
It inoculates them from the braying masses.
Also what 74 said.
It inoculates them from the braying masses.
Also what 74 said.
Posted by: navybrat at May 13, 2017 12:08 PM (w7KSn)
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My grandmother lived in T or C, as the locals called it. I attended fourth grade there. The river and dam at Elephant Butte are magnificent, but the so-called "town" of Elephant Butte is an abomination that sprang up around the lake in the last thirty to forty years. An absolute blight. The only thing worth seeing at the lake besides that side of the dam is what remains of the lodge and housing built by the WPA. OBTW, Elephant Butte Dam was the largest dam in America when it was built, until Hoover was built, if I recall.
Posted by: Born Free at May 13, 2017 12:10 PM (XNq1H)
79
The more government regulates, the more the biggest players can buy politicians to create policy favorable to themselves and only themselves.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at May 13, 2017 12:11 PM (oPl0w)
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Can't we look at him as sort of a good-guy model in this? By NOT staying in California, he's making the point that California taxways repel businesses to, say, New Mexico.
Posted by: m at May 13, 2017 12:11 PM (VgThI)
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76 >>I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. It would seem they should tend toward free enterprise and small government. But that would make sense.
1. Playing the lefty is good PR. Leftwing bullshit sounds good to the masses.
2. Pulling the ladder up behind you is a well traveled path for many rich. It's hard to be exclusive when you leave the door open for others.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
You can get rich being a Capitalist...
But in order to be Mega Rich, you need government intervention in your favor.... and you need to understand that Money gives you the ability to create such favor...
1. Playing the lefty is good PR. Leftwing bullshit sounds good to the masses.
2. Pulling the ladder up behind you is a well traveled path for many rich. It's hard to be exclusive when you leave the door open for others.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
You can get rich being a Capitalist...
But in order to be Mega Rich, you need government intervention in your favor.... and you need to understand that Money gives you the ability to create such favor...
Posted by: Don Q at May 13, 2017 12:12 PM (NgKpN)
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Follow the money, it is not that difficult. The internet tycoons are the latest "robber barons."
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:12 PM (7dpmG)
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@71: They go where their power is maximized. Libertarian billionaires like the Koch brothers are rare, rare. Branson knows if he mouths the right platitudes, he can get away with murder, because he's bought all the key people.
Building a big runway in the New Mexico desert is no great feat. But getting the permits, and not having Sierra Club or NRDC file a lawsuit to protect Humdecker's Horned Toad, is the key. Branson knows, and is perfectly willing to appoint the head of NRDC to some corporate board he controls. $150,000 stipend, some stock options, and just like magic, lawsuit threat vanishes.
Building a big runway in the New Mexico desert is no great feat. But getting the permits, and not having Sierra Club or NRDC file a lawsuit to protect Humdecker's Horned Toad, is the key. Branson knows, and is perfectly willing to appoint the head of NRDC to some corporate board he controls. $150,000 stipend, some stock options, and just like magic, lawsuit threat vanishes.
Posted by: Gordon at May 13, 2017 12:12 PM (wtd2Z)
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Study: Great Tits Prefer Nesting Near Birds With Similar Personalities
Is there a copy of that laying around somewhere?
Is there a copy of that laying around somewhere?
Posted by: Baitin' in Portland at May 13, 2017 12:15 PM (EjfPg)
85
i thought this was another baboon rape thread when i saw the photos. i haz a sad.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 13, 2017 12:16 PM (KP5rU)
86
The more government regulates, the more the biggest players can buy politicians to create policy favorable to themselves and only themselves.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler
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It's as though...as though there is an oligarchy of the Left emerging.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler
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It's as though...as though there is an oligarchy of the Left emerging.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2017 12:17 PM (ZO497)
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39 "Dyslexic" Clearance Creedwater, Milfore, 1396
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (IWkc4)
hahahahaha
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at May 13, 2017 11:39 AM (IWkc4)
hahahahaha
Posted by: m at May 13, 2017 12:18 PM (VgThI)
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34 Haha I saw Richard Branson and Karl Marx and all I could think of was Richard Marx.
Posted by: AllMyFriendsAreLefties at May 13, 2017 11:36 AM (K8P1X)
I shot a communist once in my pajamas, what he was doing in my pajamas? I'll never know...
Posted by: AllMyFriendsAreLefties at May 13, 2017 11:36 AM (K8P1X)
I shot a communist once in my pajamas, what he was doing in my pajamas? I'll never know...
Posted by: Grouch Marx at May 13, 2017 12:18 PM (NgKpN)
89
"Towards thee I spank it, thou all-annoying but unconquering den of hipsters; for hate's sake, I spit my last load at thee!"
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 13, 2017 12:18 PM (6FqZa)
90
>>Building a big runway in the New Mexico desert is no great feat. But getting the permits, and not having Sierra Club or NRDC file a lawsuit to protect Humdecker's Horned Toad, is the key. Branson knows, and is perfectly willing to appoint the head of NRDC to some corporate board he controls. $150,000 stipend, some stock options, and just like magic, lawsuit threat vanishes.
Not terribly unlike Necker Island. He bought for peanuts but the BVI government required that whomever bought the island had to build a hotel. So he spent about $10 million to build an ultra exclusive resort and kept the rest of the island for himself while the rich and beautiful pay the freight to make him even richer.
The place is probably worth $100 million today.
Not terribly unlike Necker Island. He bought for peanuts but the BVI government required that whomever bought the island had to build a hotel. So he spent about $10 million to build an ultra exclusive resort and kept the rest of the island for himself while the rich and beautiful pay the freight to make him even richer.
The place is probably worth $100 million today.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)
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81 76 >>I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. It would seem they should tend toward free enterprise and small government. But that would make sense.
1. Playing the lefty is good PR. Leftwing bullshit sounds good to the masses.
2. Pulling the ladder up behind you is a well traveled path for many rich. It's hard to be exclusive when you leave the door open for others.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
You can get rich being a Capitalist...
But in order to be Mega Rich, you need government intervention in your favor.... and you need to understand that Money gives you the ability to create such favor...
Posted by: Don Q at May 13, 2017 12:12 PM (NgKpN)
All good points.
Maybe Ayn Rand was naive when she wrote "Atlas Shrugged". Her heroic characters were principled capitalists defying government coercion.
But perhaps human nature dictates that successful people will willingly embrace using government as a weapon against their competitors.
1. Playing the lefty is good PR. Leftwing bullshit sounds good to the masses.
2. Pulling the ladder up behind you is a well traveled path for many rich. It's hard to be exclusive when you leave the door open for others.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
You can get rich being a Capitalist...
But in order to be Mega Rich, you need government intervention in your favor.... and you need to understand that Money gives you the ability to create such favor...
Posted by: Don Q at May 13, 2017 12:12 PM (NgKpN)
All good points.
Maybe Ayn Rand was naive when she wrote "Atlas Shrugged". Her heroic characters were principled capitalists defying government coercion.
But perhaps human nature dictates that successful people will willingly embrace using government as a weapon against their competitors.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 12:19 PM (sdi6R)
92
Elephant butt! Elephant butt!
Posted by: Hare lip at May 13, 2017 12:20 PM (IqV8l)
93
"I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. "
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History repeats itself. They are buying Indulgences from their Church.
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History repeats itself. They are buying Indulgences from their Church.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2017 12:20 PM (ZO497)
94
Groucho Marx is the only good one
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:20 PM (7dpmG)
95
I'll keep an eye out for ya!
Posted by: Just the punchline at May 13, 2017 12:20 PM (kTF2Z)
96
And then there's Elon Musk with the subsidies.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:21 PM (oVJmc)
97
ITS FUNNY CUZ ONE DOESNT NORMALLY ASSOCIATE MASTURBATION WITH ANGER!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at May 13, 2017 12:22 PM (kTF2Z)
98
OT-This is an odd story.
Sex club in Nashville tries to evade zoning laws by incorporating as a church called,"Freedom For All Church." I guess nobody gave them a copy of 1st Corinthians to read, although maybe some of the couches had Corinthian leather.
http://tinyurl.com/m3lyp7g
Sex club in Nashville tries to evade zoning laws by incorporating as a church called,"Freedom For All Church." I guess nobody gave them a copy of 1st Corinthians to read, although maybe some of the couches had Corinthian leather.
http://tinyurl.com/m3lyp7g
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2017 12:22 PM (fDdVG)
99
Be seeing you!
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:23 PM (7dpmG)
100
A billionaire with rockets and private islands? Why doesn't he just build a fake volcano secret lair and launch them from there? Maybe steal other countries rockets and start World War III? Oh, wait. That wouldn't work. We don't have a space program any more.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 13, 2017 12:24 PM (qJhUV)
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99 Be seeing you!
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:23 PM (7dpmG)
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In all the old familiar places?
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:23 PM (7dpmG)
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In all the old familiar places?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 13, 2017 12:24 PM (kTF2Z)
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"I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. "
Stockholm Syndrome - identifying with your captors over time.
See also; Patty Hearst, Sybian Liberation Army
Stockholm Syndrome - identifying with your captors over time.
See also; Patty Hearst, Sybian Liberation Army
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 12:24 PM (HTdUD)
103
The Gardening Thread is up. Feel free to stick around here if you have other interests.
Posted by: KT at May 13, 2017 12:25 PM (qahv/)
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96 And then there's Elon Musk with the subsidies.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:21 PM (oVJmc)
With Tesla and Solar City, yes. With SpaceX, no.
NASA is paying him to launch cargo flights to the ISS. How is that a "subsidy", any more than them paying UPS to send a package from one office to another?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:21 PM (oVJmc)
With Tesla and Solar City, yes. With SpaceX, no.
NASA is paying him to launch cargo flights to the ISS. How is that a "subsidy", any more than them paying UPS to send a package from one office to another?
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 12:25 PM (sdi6R)
105
I love that show very much
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:26 PM (7dpmG)
106
And it seems to me that if you're a businessman traveling through Nashville you might be taking your life into your hands-medically speaking- if you go through the phone book and then by the results go to place called "Swingers Club".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2017 12:26 PM (fDdVG)
107
Can I still complain about Walmart bathrooms?
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:05 PM (7dpmG)
Ummmmm...Yes.
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:05 PM (7dpmG)
Ummmmm...Yes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2017 12:27 PM (5VlCp)
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With Tesla and Solar City, yes. With SpaceX, no.
NASA is paying him to launch cargo flights to the ISS. How is that a "subsidy", any more than them paying UPS to send a package from one office to another?
I just mean as to reasons that entrepreneurs go lefty, subsidies is one reason. Musk as an example. Tom Steyer would be another one.
With Tesla and Solar City, yes. With SpaceX, no.
NASA is paying him to launch cargo flights to the ISS. How is that a "subsidy", any more than them paying UPS to send a package from one office to another?
I just mean as to reasons that entrepreneurs go lefty, subsidies is one reason. Musk as an example. Tom Steyer would be another one.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:28 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 13, 2017 12:31 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 13, 2017 12:31 PM (Tyii7)
111
Walmart sucks ass. I'm done defending them to northerner friends. The stores are nasty, customer service is horrific and they prefer and cater to the ebt crowd. They don't want my business.
Posted by: NCKate at May 13, 2017 12:32 PM (KDsfS)
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I don't have a problem with Walmart except that it's hard to find people you can ask questions of. I get in, and get out and usually pay less than at some other places, but I don't do any food shopping there.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 13, 2017 12:35 PM (fDdVG)
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108
I just mean as to reasons that entrepreneurs go lefty, subsidies is one reason. Musk as an example. Tom Steyer would be another one.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:28 PM (oVJmc)
It sounds like subsidies themselves are the problem. They distort the market. Just as taxpayers will take all the legal deductions they can, businesses will take advantage of all the subsidies that are available.
You want to build electric cars and wind farms? Fine, but the government should not force taxpayers to subsidize them.
I just mean as to reasons that entrepreneurs go lefty, subsidies is one reason. Musk as an example. Tom Steyer would be another one.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:28 PM (oVJmc)
It sounds like subsidies themselves are the problem. They distort the market. Just as taxpayers will take all the legal deductions they can, businesses will take advantage of all the subsidies that are available.
You want to build electric cars and wind farms? Fine, but the government should not force taxpayers to subsidize them.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 12:36 PM (sdi6R)
114
Yer right, NCKate.
In each store is a line of giant electronic vacuums known as checkout lanes. They vacuum money off EBT cards. So long as those vacuums work, the store makes money.
In each store is a line of giant electronic vacuums known as checkout lanes. They vacuum money off EBT cards. So long as those vacuums work, the store makes money.
Posted by: Gordon at May 13, 2017 12:37 PM (wtd2Z)
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Walmart sucks ass. I'm done defending them to northerner friends. The
stores are nasty, customer service is horrific and they prefer and cater
to the ebt crowd. They don't want my business.
Who needs Walmart? If I want to be treated like shit I'll go to Home Depot.
Walmart sucks ass. I'm done defending them to northerner friends. The
stores are nasty, customer service is horrific and they prefer and cater
to the ebt crowd. They don't want my business.
Who needs Walmart? If I want to be treated like shit I'll go to Home Depot.
Posted by: Monkfish at May 13, 2017 12:37 PM (1pWEQ)
116
Walmart sucks ass. I'm done defending them to northerner friends. The stores are nasty, customer service is horrific and they prefer and cater to the ebt crowd. They don't want my business.
Posted by: NCKate at May 13, 2017 12:32 PM (KDsfS)
But that's the exact reason to go there...Wally World is like a carnival without the price of admission. Have a few drinks and go wander the place on a Friday evening.
Hilarious and so chock full of Dr. Seuss looking in-breds that you can be entertained for free. Don't by anything, use the can then head home.
Plus on the way out you never know what lot lizards are creeping the parking lot looking to make $14.00 the hard way.
Posted by: NCKate at May 13, 2017 12:32 PM (KDsfS)
But that's the exact reason to go there...Wally World is like a carnival without the price of admission. Have a few drinks and go wander the place on a Friday evening.
Hilarious and so chock full of Dr. Seuss looking in-breds that you can be entertained for free. Don't by anything, use the can then head home.
Plus on the way out you never know what lot lizards are creeping the parking lot looking to make $14.00 the hard way.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 13, 2017 12:39 PM (5VlCp)
117
Their bathrooms are horrific.
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:39 PM (7dpmG)
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97 ITS FUNNY CUZ ONE DOESNT NORMALLY ASSOCIATE MASTURBATION WITH ANGER!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at May 13, 2017 12:22 PM (kTF2Z)
Hate sex for the self-loathing
Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBERGER at May 13, 2017 12:22 PM (kTF2Z)
Hate sex for the self-loathing
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 13, 2017 12:42 PM (0mRoj)
119
NASA is paying him to launch cargo flights to the ISS. How is that a "subsidy", any more than them paying UPS to send a package from one office to another?
Posted by: rickl
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LA Times, no less:
http://tinyurl.com/o93ruv2
The financing for Tesla and solar ventures have involved a blatant and massive transfer of wealth from the have-nots to the haves.
But, that's just my perspective.
The government picking winners.
Posted by: rickl
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LA Times, no less:
http://tinyurl.com/o93ruv2
The financing for Tesla and solar ventures have involved a blatant and massive transfer of wealth from the have-nots to the haves.
But, that's just my perspective.
The government picking winners.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 13, 2017 12:44 PM (ZO497)
120
Sounds more like an 'act of love' to me.
Posted by: ¡Jeb! at May 13, 2017 12:44 PM (vRcUp)
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>>Who needs Walmart? If I want to be treated like shit I'll go to Home Depot.
Both my local Walmart and Home Depot are located right next to the Navy base and are both staffed and patronized by sailors, spouses and retirees. So I can't complain about either place except for the constant string of foul language.
Farking sailors.
Both my local Walmart and Home Depot are located right next to the Navy base and are both staffed and patronized by sailors, spouses and retirees. So I can't complain about either place except for the constant string of foul language.
Farking sailors.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 13, 2017 12:44 PM (/tuJf)
122
Walmart is just a place to go to get a Hefty-sized bge of treats and get the fuck out.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 13, 2017 12:47 PM (7uYFy)
123
We need less antifa beating people up, more antifap beating people up.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2017 12:49 PM (vRcUp)
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Walmart: guess it depends on your location, and store. Infrequent customer at two or three, they're very much like other big stores in the area, conditions are normal, staff is fine. They have a grocery store version that is very good for certain items, so go there sometimes (it's also near other big grocery stores, so one can maximize both value and efficiency in one trip).
Just was in one briefly the other day, checked their ammo prices - wow, pretty scary. Scary in that they were the only inexpensive retail source of ammo, and now not so much. And next January CA's newest idiotic (and most dangerous) gun law comes into force, probably effectively raising the cost of ammo across the board (by choking off online buying, for most).
Home Depot bad? Apart from the muchachos in the parking lot occasionally getting unfriendly - it's really a treat being subject to a**holish behavior from illegals in your own neighborhood! - it's fine. Lots of staff who are experts in various areas, have received lots of help over the years from them.
Just was in one briefly the other day, checked their ammo prices - wow, pretty scary. Scary in that they were the only inexpensive retail source of ammo, and now not so much. And next January CA's newest idiotic (and most dangerous) gun law comes into force, probably effectively raising the cost of ammo across the board (by choking off online buying, for most).
Home Depot bad? Apart from the muchachos in the parking lot occasionally getting unfriendly - it's really a treat being subject to a**holish behavior from illegals in your own neighborhood! - it's fine. Lots of staff who are experts in various areas, have received lots of help over the years from them.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2017 12:49 PM (QDnY+)
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Has anyone read The Warriors ?
Posted by: cosmic charlie at May 13, 2017 12:51 PM (7dpmG)
126
>>>102 Patty Hearst, Sybian Liberation Army
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 12:24 PM (HTdUD)
Symbionese Liberation Army
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 12:24 PM (HTdUD)
Symbionese Liberation Army
Posted by: m at May 13, 2017 12:52 PM (VgThI)
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I guess we did not see the interesting side of T or C.
Once you've seen one Zygon you've seen them all.
Once you've seen one Zygon you've seen them all.
Posted by: DaveA at May 13, 2017 12:52 PM (FhXTo)
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Symbionese Liberation Army
Posted by: m
I know. I just liked the image of those radical leftists and that contraption pleasuring themselves.
Posted by: m
I know. I just liked the image of those radical leftists and that contraption pleasuring themselves.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 12:54 PM (HTdUD)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2017 12:56 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2017 01:01 PM (IqV8l)
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The concept of "subsidy" seems often clouded a bit by the biggest flaw in most people's economic analysis: the distinction between public and private goods.
Obviously can't deal with it adequately in a comment section (even with my wordy kind of comment).
To brutally over-simplify: private goods (and services) are those for which private, real-economy demand is sufficient to create and sustain private sources of supply. Normal stuff. Food, shelter, etc.
Public goods are those which may be highly desirable or necessary (ah, there's the nub of the problem, defining those), but for varying reasons are difficult or impossible to have created and sustained without some collective or public action/intervention/subsidy. Nuclear submarines, some kinds of infrastructure, police forces.
All of this idiotic "environmental" theft/wealth transfer/subsidy is based on defining the absurd scientifically dubious issue of "climate change" as a man-caused problem, and the "solution" as a public good requiring spending and subsidies. Public goods lead to private wealth - see defense and other sorts of govt. contractors - but that's not a problem per se, it all depends on how worthy the actual public good, and how efficiently it's produced/delivered.
Just to add one more: the obviously erroneous definition of medical care and health - on an individual basis, not public health issues like immunization or potable water supplies - as a public good, and not the private good it obviously is (plenty of "supply" springing up to address the demand) - underlies the disastrous results of O-care and similar schemes around the world.
Obviously can't deal with it adequately in a comment section (even with my wordy kind of comment).
To brutally over-simplify: private goods (and services) are those for which private, real-economy demand is sufficient to create and sustain private sources of supply. Normal stuff. Food, shelter, etc.
Public goods are those which may be highly desirable or necessary (ah, there's the nub of the problem, defining those), but for varying reasons are difficult or impossible to have created and sustained without some collective or public action/intervention/subsidy. Nuclear submarines, some kinds of infrastructure, police forces.
All of this idiotic "environmental" theft/wealth transfer/subsidy is based on defining the absurd scientifically dubious issue of "climate change" as a man-caused problem, and the "solution" as a public good requiring spending and subsidies. Public goods lead to private wealth - see defense and other sorts of govt. contractors - but that's not a problem per se, it all depends on how worthy the actual public good, and how efficiently it's produced/delivered.
Just to add one more: the obviously erroneous definition of medical care and health - on an individual basis, not public health issues like immunization or potable water supplies - as a public good, and not the private good it obviously is (plenty of "supply" springing up to address the demand) - underlies the disastrous results of O-care and similar schemes around the world.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2017 01:02 PM (QDnY+)
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Branson may be a fool for believing in AGW, but he still sounds like an accomplished individual. By hanging out with a worthless community organizing dipshits like Obama and his wife, he'll be encouraging them to think more highly of themselves than they ought.
What if Barack laughed, clapped Branson on the shoulder, pointed to one of his rockets and said "you didn't build that". Would Branson kick him off the island?
What if Barack laughed, clapped Branson on the shoulder, pointed to one of his rockets and said "you didn't build that". Would Branson kick him off the island?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 13, 2017 01:10 PM (vRcUp)
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Ed Morrissey has a piece up at Hot Air commenting on a bit by Bill Maher where Maher blamed Bill Clinton for Comey's termination. Maher centered his commentary on Bill's tarmac meeting with Loretta Lynch. Morrissey counters that it was really all Hillary's fault because of all of her illegality.
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/13/
maher-blame-bill-clinton-comeys-firing/
But, there really is a way to hang Comey's termination on Bill Clinton, at that is Clinton's termination of FBI Director William Sessions near the beginning of Clinton's presidency. Prior to Comey, it is the only time an FBI director had been fired. Had Clinton not fired Sessions, Trump would be in a tougher spot politically.
True, in firing Comey, he still would be well within his powers as POTUS. But, his opposition would be bleating non-stop about how unprecedented the firing was. The first time in the history of the nation that a president fired an FBI Director!
But, because Trump can roll out the precedence of Bill Clinton's actions, they can't say that. Had Clinton not previously done the same, Trump may have thought he would be better off not firing Comey unless he could come up with a clear smoking gun against him. Fortunately, Trump was not constrained and he was able to do what needed to be done.
Thanks, Bill Clinton!
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/13/
maher-blame-bill-clinton-comeys-firing/
But, there really is a way to hang Comey's termination on Bill Clinton, at that is Clinton's termination of FBI Director William Sessions near the beginning of Clinton's presidency. Prior to Comey, it is the only time an FBI director had been fired. Had Clinton not fired Sessions, Trump would be in a tougher spot politically.
True, in firing Comey, he still would be well within his powers as POTUS. But, his opposition would be bleating non-stop about how unprecedented the firing was. The first time in the history of the nation that a president fired an FBI Director!
But, because Trump can roll out the precedence of Bill Clinton's actions, they can't say that. Had Clinton not previously done the same, Trump may have thought he would be better off not firing Comey unless he could come up with a clear smoking gun against him. Fortunately, Trump was not constrained and he was able to do what needed to be done.
Thanks, Bill Clinton!
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 13, 2017 01:17 PM (R+30W)
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Richard Branson runs an airline and wants to fly billionaires to space, but ride your bike to work, peasant.
I'm all for them going to space and keep on going. Kind of like the B Ark.
I'm all for them going to space and keep on going. Kind of like the B Ark.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 13, 2017 01:20 PM (auHtY)
135
The Amish at it again.
https://tinyurl.com/mfbdyxy
Posted by: Javems at May 13, 2017 11:14 AM (yOqwj)
Nearly all muslims, I see. But there are two Sikh names, and one that sounds Franco/Anglo, but might be caribbean. Converts, or maybe just garden-variety pervs that got on the bandwagon? Or innocent shmucks just added to the list to "prove" it's not a "muslim conspiracy"?
https://tinyurl.com/mfbdyxy
Posted by: Javems at May 13, 2017 11:14 AM (yOqwj)
Nearly all muslims, I see. But there are two Sikh names, and one that sounds Franco/Anglo, but might be caribbean. Converts, or maybe just garden-variety pervs that got on the bandwagon? Or innocent shmucks just added to the list to "prove" it's not a "muslim conspiracy"?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2017 01:30 PM (0deF2)
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Space-x is building a large spaceport near Brownsville, TX, and Bezos's spaceport is near Valentine, TX. I don't know what the future holds for those as far becoming large payload launch facilities, but it's unlikely Texas will tax them as heavily as CA will.
Posted by: stace at May 13, 2017 01:33 PM (zy+gb)
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SpaceX already has a test facility near McGregor, TX.
Fun Fact: The reason why the Falcon 9 is so long and thin is because it is designed to travel by truck on regular interstate highways, from the factory in Hawthorne, CA to McGregor, TX and Cape Canaveral, FL.
Fun Fact: The reason why the Falcon 9 is so long and thin is because it is designed to travel by truck on regular interstate highways, from the factory in Hawthorne, CA to McGregor, TX and Cape Canaveral, FL.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 01:42 PM (sdi6R)
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I don't understand why highly successful entrepreneurs go full lefty. It would seem they should tend toward free enterprise and small government. But that would make sense.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 13, 2017 12:04 PM (hJrjt)
Regulatory capture. Use the organs of government to erect obstacles to one's competitors.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 13, 2017 12:04 PM (hJrjt)
Regulatory capture. Use the organs of government to erect obstacles to one's competitors.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2017 01:45 PM (0deF2)
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>>>Use the organs of government to erect obstacles to one's competitors.
When it came to erecting the organ of government, I had no competitors, not even Michelle.
When it came to erecting the organ of government, I had no competitors, not even Michelle.
Posted by: Reggie Love at May 13, 2017 01:52 PM (vRcUp)
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I think I've finally figured out what has been bugging me about all these lefty billionaires. These people have accomplished a lot, and they're the sort of people I want to admire. But the leftyness does grate.
I think it's basically that the rest of America is dying. We all have a bleak grey future of corporate/public serfdom and debt slavery to look forward to, where every scrap of surplus resulting from our effort is eaten by rent and taxes. Other Americans winning and doing great things is no longer as inspiring as it was, because it doesn't matter how much we want to work for similar success, nothing we can do and no talent we can build will ever be enough (barring luck) to reach "escape-wealth" where we can get ahead of the relentless taxes and rent. That these guys throw in with our political oppressors just burns. That they then rhapsodize about replacing us all with robots, and how honest hard work is 'obsolete', we're obsolete, and the best we can hope for is to be wards of the state: It's the final straw.
I'm finally beginning to understand the revolutionary French. It's not a good place to be.
I think it's basically that the rest of America is dying. We all have a bleak grey future of corporate/public serfdom and debt slavery to look forward to, where every scrap of surplus resulting from our effort is eaten by rent and taxes. Other Americans winning and doing great things is no longer as inspiring as it was, because it doesn't matter how much we want to work for similar success, nothing we can do and no talent we can build will ever be enough (barring luck) to reach "escape-wealth" where we can get ahead of the relentless taxes and rent. That these guys throw in with our political oppressors just burns. That they then rhapsodize about replacing us all with robots, and how honest hard work is 'obsolete', we're obsolete, and the best we can hope for is to be wards of the state: It's the final straw.
I'm finally beginning to understand the revolutionary French. It's not a good place to be.
Posted by: EO at May 13, 2017 01:57 PM (VF34g)
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Posted by: Reggie Love at May 13, 2017 01:52 PM (vRcUp)
+++
For a time, wasn't Reggie Obama's workout coach or some such b.s., as in, he couldn't even get Obama past the 5lb. weights?
+++
For a time, wasn't Reggie Obama's workout coach or some such b.s., as in, he couldn't even get Obama past the 5lb. weights?
Posted by: washrivergal at May 13, 2017 02:00 PM (+eKyB)
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>>>128 Symbionese Liberation Army
Posted by: m
I know. I just liked the image of those radical leftists and that contraption pleasuring themselves.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 12:54 PM (HTdUD)
hahahaha; touché
Posted by: m
I know. I just liked the image of those radical leftists and that contraption pleasuring themselves.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 13, 2017 12:54 PM (HTdUD)
hahahaha; touché
Posted by: m at May 13, 2017 02:03 PM (VgThI)
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Of the eight traits that make a future billionaire, a long-time billionaire knows ten of them. Thankfully Trump does not seem to be that type.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 13, 2017 02:04 PM (VdICR)
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>>>>Regulatory capture. Use the organs of government to erect obstacles to one's competitors.
Two examples of this in action.
Endangered species act; spotted owl scam; regulate timber sales and forestry practices on federal land; financially ruin independent, family owned sawmills; winners being Weyerhaeuser, Boise-Cascade, Georgia Pacific, Louisiana Pacific etc.
EPA; CARB (California air resources board); require MTBE additive in gasoline; MTBE poisons aquifers; mandate all underground fuel storage tanks be replaced; financially ruin independent, family owned gas stations; Winners being Shell, Exxon, ARCO etc.
Summary: Environmental organizations aid and abet oligarchical-corporate control of markets.
Two examples of this in action.
Endangered species act; spotted owl scam; regulate timber sales and forestry practices on federal land; financially ruin independent, family owned sawmills; winners being Weyerhaeuser, Boise-Cascade, Georgia Pacific, Louisiana Pacific etc.
EPA; CARB (California air resources board); require MTBE additive in gasoline; MTBE poisons aquifers; mandate all underground fuel storage tanks be replaced; financially ruin independent, family owned gas stations; Winners being Shell, Exxon, ARCO etc.
Summary: Environmental organizations aid and abet oligarchical-corporate control of markets.
Posted by: 13times at May 13, 2017 02:09 PM (WHVu+)
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Well, whatever we may think about private space entrepreneurs, at least they are trying to do things, in contrast to the government.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l9esrl7
Read the whole thing. It requires multiple facepalms.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l9esrl7
Read the whole thing. It requires multiple facepalms.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 02:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: KT at May 13, 2017 02:47 PM (qahv/)
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Well, whatever we may think about private space entrepreneurs, at least they are trying to do things, in contrast to the government.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l9esrl7
Read the whole thing. It requires multiple facepalms.
Posted by: rickl
Are you f'king kidding me??? That was awesome!!!
They used the terms "crewed" and "uncrewed" instead of "m*nned" and "unm*nned"!!!
That is true progress.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l9esrl7
Read the whole thing. It requires multiple facepalms.
Posted by: rickl
Are you f'king kidding me??? That was awesome!!!
They used the terms "crewed" and "uncrewed" instead of "m*nned" and "unm*nned"!!!
That is true progress.
Posted by: SJW at May 13, 2017 03:00 PM (vRcUp)
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Although the term crew triggers me since J. Crew refused to denounce Trump. Maybe "staffed".
Posted by: SJW at May 13, 2017 03:02 PM (vRcUp)
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We can still look forward to NASA's EM-2 flight carrying crew...in 2023.
But do keep that tax money flowing, citizens.
But do keep that tax money flowing, citizens.
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2017 03:18 PM (sdi6R)
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So Branson is the same as any other Leftist.
Saw 3 accidents today, 1 on way, 1 on way home and had to get around another on way home.
Saw 3 accidents today, 1 on way, 1 on way home and had to get around another on way home.
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2017 03:22 PM (Ot7+c)
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And then there's Elon Musk with the subsidies.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:21 PM (oVJmc)
Depends on how you define "subsidies". What Musk did was spend some years on Kwajalein Island developing the Falcon rocket (made quite a few BFRCs in the process, too). One it was more or less perfected, he goes to the government offering what he says are cheaper launch services. At first they were, because he was able to cut a deal where the usual FARs (Federal Acquisition Regulations) did not apply to SpaceX's rockets.
But sooner or later, that loophole will cease, if it hasn't already, and when it does, Elon's toys will be found to be not as cheap as some people thought.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 13, 2017 12:21 PM (oVJmc)
Depends on how you define "subsidies". What Musk did was spend some years on Kwajalein Island developing the Falcon rocket (made quite a few BFRCs in the process, too). One it was more or less perfected, he goes to the government offering what he says are cheaper launch services. At first they were, because he was able to cut a deal where the usual FARs (Federal Acquisition Regulations) did not apply to SpaceX's rockets.
But sooner or later, that loophole will cease, if it hasn't already, and when it does, Elon's toys will be found to be not as cheap as some people thought.
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at May 13, 2017 03:39 PM (T1H5V)
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If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 13, 2017 03:50 PM (DMUuz)
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Skip, did you see F-1 qualifying this morning?
If not, replay on NBCSP right now, but you probably knew that...
Skip, did you see F-1 qualifying this morning?
If not, replay on NBCSP right now, but you probably knew that...
Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 13, 2017 04:28 PM (4DCSq)
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Rebroadcast is on , have to finish supper, quickly
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2017 04:30 PM (Ot7+c)
155
Q1 is mostly boring until a front runner doesn't makeit
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2017 04:32 PM (Ot7+c)
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I won't spoil then.
I won't spoil then.
Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 13, 2017 04:39 PM (4DCSq)
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Glad both Hass cars made it into Q2
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2017 04:51 PM (Ot7+c)
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In contention to score some points tomorrow.
In contention to score some points tomorrow.
Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 13, 2017 04:56 PM (4DCSq)
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My bestest, favorite race series green flags in about two hours in Kansas. (I enjoy them all!)
I love when open wheel drivers think they can come to NASCAR and dominate. 'Left Turns, easy!'
Tony Stewart did pretty darn good, though...
My bestest, favorite race series green flags in about two hours in Kansas. (I enjoy them all!)
I love when open wheel drivers think they can come to NASCAR and dominate. 'Left Turns, easy!'
Tony Stewart did pretty darn good, though...
Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 13, 2017 05:08 PM (4DCSq)
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I would like to thank "Portland" for being such a shitty place to live for non hipsters. My boy moved there in January. He is leaving for AF BMT on Tuesday.
Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF at May 13, 2017 05:09 PM (YXf+c)
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Whoo Hoo!
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2017 05:22 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 13, 2017 05:36 PM (4DCSq)
Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 13, 2017 05:57 PM (4DCSq)
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You know every one of these co-eds are hard core Leftists, though its not totally their fault. Its poured into their empty heads by lifelong Leftist professors.
Posted by: Skip at May 13, 2017 06:00 PM (Ot7+c)
Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 13, 2017 06:08 PM (4DCSq)
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For being so hard over about "green" energy, the fuel grain of Spaceship Two's hybrid engine is based on HTPB rubber which is about as dirty as it gets. Basically a flying tire fire to space...assuming it actually makes it. They finalized SS2's design before the engine was built and it's biting them in the @$$.
Note that Bezos' New Shepard burns hydrogen and oxygen, about as clean as a rocket gets. And it does what it was designed to do.
Note that Bezos' New Shepard burns hydrogen and oxygen, about as clean as a rocket gets. And it does what it was designed to do.
Posted by: Chilly at May 13, 2017 07:03 PM (lY0u4)
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Branson reminds me of every charismatic sociopath I have ever met. And most I haven't.
Posted by: Jeffersonian at May 14, 2017 01:57 AM (AhqMi)
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Chilly at May 13, 2017 07:03 PM
Thanks for the technical details. I had not known that Branson's rocket fuel was especially dirty.
Wonder if he will succeed in getting taxpayers to foot the bill for sequestering the carbon he wants to release into the atmosphere?
Thanks for the technical details. I had not known that Branson's rocket fuel was especially dirty.
Wonder if he will succeed in getting taxpayers to foot the bill for sequestering the carbon he wants to release into the atmosphere?
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