Will the Democrats Shut Down the Government to Block the Wall?

Building a wall around the wall. Only in the Democrat Party.

Jeff Sessions doesn't think they have the stones.

From The Hill:

"I can't imagine the Democrats would shut down the government over an objection to building a down payment on a wall that can end the lawlessness..."

He added that they'd pay for the wall "one way or another."

I think the Democrats can and will be this crazy. What else do they have to sell except crazy?

By the way, NPR is now saying that what the Democrats are threatening is but a mere "partial shutdown" of government. PJMedia's Charlie Martin doesn't remember NPR referring to Republican-threatened shutdowns as "partial shutdowns," even though, of course, they were the same shutdowns.

Posted by: Ace at 03:39 PM

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1 disappeared thread?

Posted by: dIb at April 24, 2017 04:32 PM (VJOLZ)

2 The Undernood.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 24, 2017 04:34 PM (eXSOZ)

3 Underboob thread.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 24, 2017 04:35 PM (HTdUD)

4 Oh, here's how you get more votes, Democrats!!

(Not)

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2017 04:35 PM (NOIQH)

5 Partially shut down the government. Show us in no uncertain terms the non essential employees.

Then fire them.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 04:35 PM (HBKaX)

6 A wall of underboob, now that's devious.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 04:36 PM (6Ll1u)

7 Democrats are flooding the zone with drugs....fucked up people vote Democrat. They figured it out.

So no wall. Mexicans will import the drugs Americans won't.

Posted by: torabora at April 24, 2017 04:36 PM (0+2tr)

8 Does Charlie Martin remember Huffington Post - and Obama - referring to the GOP as "terrorists" for the 2013 shutdown?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2017 04:36 PM (NOIQH)

9 If you consume heroin, who are you going to vote for? THEM?

*insert insane cackle here*

Posted by: hillary! at April 24, 2017 04:38 PM (0+2tr)

10

My understanding is Democrats want ObamaCare funded, Trump wants the wall funded, and the Democrats won't fund the wall.

So Democrats are demanding something in return for nothing.

I'm not sure what chapter of 'Art of the Deal' explains the answer to this.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 24, 2017 04:38 PM (HTdUD)

11 Hope the MSM calls the Democrats terrorists for the shutdown.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-ostroy/
republican-terrorism_b_4060171.html

It's their precedent.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2017 04:39 PM (NOIQH)

12 How do they manage this? I thought we had both chambers.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2017 04:39 PM (zSXVD)

13 >>I'm not sure what chapter of 'Art of the Deal' explains the answer to this.

Maybe Trump will tell us during his Pennsylvania rally?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2017 04:39 PM (NOIQH)

14 --
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How do they manage this? I thought we had both chambers.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2017 04:39 PM

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Oh, we do.

Posted by: Dems and Repub-squishes at April 24, 2017 04:40 PM (pMGkg)

15 How do they manage this? I thought we had both chambers.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2017 04:39 PM (zSXVD)

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McCain, Graham, Collins.....

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at April 24, 2017 04:40 PM (xDZVB)

16 Hope the MSM calls the Democrats terrorists for the shutdown.

They won't. But the right should.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 04:40 PM (HBKaX)

17
Based on election results the past eight plus years, I'm kind of reluctant to think that they Democrats have suddenly devised a strategy which is resonating with a majority of the electorate.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 24, 2017 04:41 PM (HTdUD)

18 Dear Paul and Mitch,

Don't.

We mean it.

Sincerely,

Those of us who pay attention.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2017 04:41 PM (B+qrE)

19 Trump shutdown - To build wall on the border

Obama shutdown - To build walls around National Monuments

Posted by: one of these things is not like the other at April 24, 2017 04:41 PM (Od+LM)

20 How do they manage this? I thought we had both chambers.

Posted by: TexasDan

We haven't broken the media yet.

Yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 04:41 PM (HBKaX)

21 Democrats are loyal to their constituent voters, including illegal aliens.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 24, 2017 04:42 PM (7ZVPa)

22 Based on election results the past eight plus years, I'm kind of reluctant to think that they Democrats have suddenly devised a strategy which is resonating with a majority of the electorate.

Open borders.
Riots.
Calling everyone a racist.
Whining.
Kicking anyone remotely pro-life in the groin.

I think this will play.

Racists.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2017 04:43 PM (B+qrE)

23 Hippopotomi, hippopotumusses kill more people than alligators. I say put them in the Rio Grande, with gmo modified 2000 lb boars on the other side welcoming them if they make it across.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 04:43 PM (6Ll1u)

24 Sounds like Sessions has been reading Brer Rabbit.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2017 04:43 PM (xS55I)

25 Article says some GOP wobbly in house over cost and "where the wall will be built"

Where it will be built?

Is there really some confusion on this issue?

They would be okay with the wall but...It has to be somewhere else?

Actually if we had a decision between a wall with Mexico and a wall with California, I would be conflicted.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2017 04:44 PM (zSXVD)

26
In the middle of a showdown with North Korea the Democrats are still looking for an ObamaCare bail-out.

Bad, bad optics.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 24, 2017 04:44 PM (HTdUD)

27 7 Democrats are flooding the zone with drugs....fucked up people vote Democrat. They figured it out.

So no wall. Mexicans will import the drugs Americans won't.
Posted by: torabora at April 24, 2017 04:36 PM (0+2tr)

Treasoncrats.

If every Republican running for (re)election in 2018 boldly states that s/he supports the border wall and opposes *Treason*, and actually uses the world "Treason", what an election it would be.

Can the goo-goo-for-globalists be weaned off their cheap gardener and maid fix?

Can the spineless RINOs get some implanted ones?

Stay tuned.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 04:45 PM (ujg0T)

28 >>Article says some GOP wobbly in house over cost and "where the wall will be built"

Cost?

After letting Obama go wild with federal spending for the past 8 years (too many items to list) and Hillary "losing" $6 Billion, they're suddenly concerned with what things cost??!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2017 04:47 PM (NOIQH)

29 Here, again, is the deal. I will help build this wall with my own hands. I will take three weeks of vacation a year to build this thing. I will provide Structural services for free. I will bring my son and my son's friends.

I'm pretty sure we could get this done for materials if Trump creates a volunteer CCC or something.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 24, 2017 04:48 PM (zSXVD)

30 "Can the spineless RINOs get some implanted ones?"

No.

Posted by: Susan "head on a slinky" Collins at April 24, 2017 04:48 PM (xS55I)

31 Can the goo-goo-for-globalists be weaned off their cheap gardener and maid fix?

Can the spineless RINOs get some implanted ones?

Stay tuned.

Tune in as we build life sized letters "N" & "O".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 04:48 PM (HBKaX)

32 I read shut down as shit down...and thought, well shit down the government might improve it.

Posted by: IC at April 24, 2017 04:49 PM (a0IVu)

33 Vashta Nerada: "Democrats are loyal to their constituent voters, including illegal aliens."

And so is the GOPe. The US Chamber of Commerce and illegal labor pool turned them into eunuchs.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 24, 2017 04:50 PM (H8S+R)

34 Article says some GOP wobbly in house over cost and "where the wall will be built"

Cost? The wall costs a one time $10 billion payment.
Annual welfare payments to illegals are $99 billion a year. Do the math.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 04:50 PM (HBKaX)

35 "where the wall will be built"

Did I miss something?

Were we planning on building it in Kentucky or Wyoming?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2017 04:51 PM (B+qrE)

36 Where is everyone? Confused about thread order?

Posted by: IC at April 24, 2017 04:54 PM (a0IVu)

37 Based on election results the past eight plus years, I'm kind of
reluctant to think that they Democrats have suddenly devised a strategy
which is resonating with a majority of the electorate.
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I'm really excited about their strategy to remind votes of Trump's most popular campaign promise--over and over and over.

I'm sure that will go quite well for them.

I bet it'll pay even greater dividends if they'll complain that we can't force illegal Mexicans to pay for it by taking away their illegal IRS tax refunds.

And please be telling America that we can't cut off welfare benefits for illegal Mexicans, either.

Posted by: Jimmuh Carter at April 24, 2017 04:54 PM (ZQpd0)

38 When me and my neighbor stopped by the Mexican market yesterday we noticed that they had a new glass booth dedicated to sending money back home, taxing this money,25 billion to Mexico alone, will pay for the wall.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 04:55 PM (6Ll1u)

39 "where the wall will be built"

Maybe it's time we put one up around Capitol Hill. Maybe add some steel-barred windows to look out at the real world while they contemplate their life choices.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 24, 2017 04:55 PM (H8S+R)

40 38 When me and my neighbor stopped by the Mexican market yesterday we noticed that they had a new glass booth dedicated to sending money back home, taxing this money,25 billion to Mexico alone, will pay for the wall.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 04:55 PM (6Ll1u)

Bingo. Even the tiniest of border "transaction fees" would raise hundreds of billions, per annum.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 04:56 PM (ujg0T)

41 40 38 When me and my neighbor stopped by the Mexican market yesterday we noticed that they had a new glass booth dedicated to sending money back home, taxing this money,25 billion to Mexico alone, will pay for the wall.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 04:55 PM (6Ll1u)

Bingo. Even the tiniest of border "transaction fees" would raise hundreds of billions, per annum.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

80% tax on remittances to Mexico, you want to send $100 it will cost you $80.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 04:58 PM (HBKaX)

42 --
"where the wall will be built"

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Well, we can't just let the border states get all that juicy federal pork!

Posted by: The Non-Border States at April 24, 2017 04:59 PM (pMGkg)

43 Bingo. Even the tiniest of border "transaction fees" would raise hundreds of billions, per annum.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

80% tax on remittances to Mexico, you want to send $100 it will cost you $80.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 04:58 PM (HBKaX)

As delightful as that sounds, somebody flunked Supply Side economics.

If we want to raise revenue, we want to milk them, not bleed them dry. At least not until the wall is finished and paid off.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:03 PM (ujg0T)

44 If we want to raise revenue, we want to milk them, not bleed them dry. At least not until the wall is finished and paid off.

We don't. We want them the fuck out. If they are stupid enough to stay, make them fucking pay.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 05:06 PM (HBKaX)

45 The Non-Border States: "Well, we can't just let the border states get all that juicy federal pork!"

You get a wall! And you get a wall! And you get a wall!

TX, NM, AZ, CA... you get a potted plant. Now go back to your seat!

Posted by: Uniparty Winfrey at April 24, 2017 05:06 PM (H8S+R)

46 A 2% tax on all remittances every year to anywhere will pay for the wall and the enforcement of the visa overstays. Let's be honest, we probably have just as many illegal people from other countries as Mexico.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

47 TX, NM, AZ, CA... you get a potted plant. Now go back to your seat!

Posted by: Uniparty Winfrey at April 24, 2017 05:06 PM (H8S+R)
Speaking as a California resident, I'd take a potted plant over Maxine Waters any day.

Posted by: IC at April 24, 2017 05:08 PM (a0IVu)

48 and that's why we got Trump ...idiots. what part of "build the wall" did they not hear ??

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2017 05:10 PM (c6/9Q)

49
We don't. We want them the fuck out. If they are stupid enough to stay, make them fucking pay.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 05:06 PM (HBKaX)

Of course we do. But we want The Wall first. At some point the sheeple will go to sleep and Commiecrats will be in office again. Need to finish The Wall before that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:11 PM (ujg0T)

50 Honestly, this is more interesting than the War Pigs.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 24, 2017 05:15 PM (QQ+il)

51 Let's be honest, we probably have just as many illegal people from other countries as Mexico.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 05:08 PM (6Ll1u)

Absolutely. But it is time to be honest about something else. Some people--and some cultures and nationalities--are more skilled, more compatible, and more productive than others.

While H1b immigrants are sort of indentured servants for the tech industry, they are better than a "Diversity lottery" case.

A brit or Irish(wo)man who overstays a travel or student visa is less of a strain on the social system than illiterates from south of the border.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:15 PM (ujg0T)

52 >>>A brit or Irish(wo)man who overstays a travel or
student visa is less of a strain on the social system than illiterates
from south of the border.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:15 PM (ujg0T)<<<

What about the Welsh? Even literate, you can't understand what they are saying?

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at April 24, 2017 05:19 PM (Od+LM)

53 Well, I might be persuaded to sponsor an Irish lass if I have to for the good of the country.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 05:21 PM (6Ll1u)

54 IMHO, Trump wants a shutdown to demonstrate how little the federal government means to decent and civilized people. Then he can call for even greater budget cuts of fedzilla.

The democrats would be crazy to give Trump this battle axe but they ain't known for being smart, just insanely determined for power and money.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 24, 2017 05:21 PM (cOHS7)

55 The Democrats literally do not have the power to block or shut down anything... If this is done, it will be done by the Republicans.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 24, 2017 05:22 PM (f5uaD)

56 Of course we do. But we want The Wall first. At some point the sheeple will go to sleep and Commiecrats will be in office again. Need to finish The Wall before that.

With that 80% tax on remittances, they either self deport or we make back some of that $99 billion on welfare payments that we get zero dollars back now.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2017 05:22 PM (HBKaX)

57 51---A brit or Irish(wo)man who overstays a travel or student visa is less of a strain on the social system than illiterates from south of the border.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:15 PM (ujg0T)
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Dream on. Most of the overstays are Asians, Middle Easterners, and Africans. And many are illiterate too.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 24, 2017 05:23 PM (0jtPF)

58 While H1b immigrants are sort of indentured servants for the tech industry, they are better than a "Diversity lottery" case.

A brit or Irish(wo)man who overstays a travel or student visa is less of a strain on the social system than illiterates from south of the border.

Posted by: Curmudgeon

If you happen to be in the tech industry and see your income stagnant for a decade or more you don't really care who is easier on the governments bottom line. The H1b system has been abused since the year 2000 and probably before.

It's a war on many fronts and they all need to be vigorously attacked simultaneously.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 24, 2017 05:23 PM (HTdUD)

59 overstays must be dealt with as well - as much of a problem as the mex border

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2017 05:24 PM (c6/9Q)

60 overstays must be dealt with as well - as much of a problem as the mex border

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2017 05:24 PM (c6/9Q)

A problem certainly but nowhere near as much of a problem.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 24, 2017 05:25 PM (f5uaD)

61 Dream on. Most of the overstays are Asians, Middle Easterners, and Africans. And many are illiterate too.

==

Eatern Europeans are a big chunk as well - au pair(s) and "students" to non-existent universities

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2017 05:27 PM (c6/9Q)

62 It's a war on many fronts and they all need to be vigorously attacked simultaneously.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 24, 2017 05:23 PM (HTdUD)

As in wars in the past, priorities will have to be set.

With the wisdom of 20/20 hindsight, we probably should have gone "Asia First" rather than "Europe First" in WW2 while Nazis and Soviets bled each other dry.

On the other hand, imagine the Nazis getting the atomic bomb first....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:27 PM (ujg0T)

63 Didn't I see visa over stays were 500,000 a year? Math is hard, but not that hard.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 05:28 PM (6Ll1u)

64 That $99 billion the illegals get from middle America is surely more than paid back at their minimum and sub minimum wage jobs right?

I mean the $20k/year we spend in K-12 for Juan and Maria's 6 children comes right back to the community. Plus we get the added benefit of retarding the scholarship of native born children. That's a Two-Fer.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 24, 2017 05:28 PM (cOHS7)

65 What about the Welsh? Even literate, you can't understand what they are saying?
Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at April 24, 2017 05:19 PM (Od+LM)

Helo 'na. Dduw bendithia America. 8D

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:28 PM (ujg0T)

66 A partial shutdown on the 100th day of the Trump presidency. I question the timing that was built-in to the temp-funding-measure passed last year. Smells like Demonic-rat.

Posted by: geoffb5 at April 24, 2017 05:29 PM (d3wbb)

67 Smells like Demonic-rat GOPe rat.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 24, 2017 05:30 PM (cOHS7)

68 Dream on. Most of the overstays are Asians,

I live in CA and I am well aware of how many are from Asia!

Still, unless engaged in industrial espionage, they are less of a detriment than the impoverished and illiterate (in Spanish, let alone English) from South Of The Border.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 24, 2017 05:34 PM (ujg0T)

69 E Depluribus Unum: "The ~~H1b~~ Immigration and Nationalization system has been abused since ~~the year 2000 and probably before~~ conception."

Slight modification for emphasis. It's now an accelerated escalator competing with an open border.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 24, 2017 05:44 PM (H8S+R)

70 Chinese birth tourism is a problem here in Cali for sure, the thing nobody talks about is how they created new business for the community. While the black and Latino gangs kill each other, Asians success goes unreported. They are not among the protected class, but will be the first to go to the roof if threatened. They are treated badly by the community that they serve.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 05:47 PM (6Ll1u)

71 You ever been to a Taco Bell that has a bullet proof counter? Well they have them here my friend.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 24, 2017 05:53 PM (6Ll1u)

72 Shut down the government? Okay by me.

Posted by: steve walsh at April 24, 2017 06:35 PM (clx/U)

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