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Rise of the KAF

A couple of weeks ago, I'm in the endodontist's office waiting to spend a crap ton of money on the first two, count 'em, two root canals, and as is usual these days, there's a TV set on in the background. At 7:30 in the morning, the last thing I want to do is watch TV. But I notice it's tuned to the Disney channel which is running some show that appears to be about teenagers, geared to a teenaged audience. I wasn't much paying attention until I noticed a basketball game going on. It appeared to be some kind of a one-on-one grudge match between two protagonists, one of which was some guy that looked like he was supposed to be an arrogant douchebag, and his opponent was a girl.

Naturally, the girl won.

The game consisted of a rapid-fire series of cuts that showed the girl making jump shots over the top of the douchebag, getting around him for an easy layup, smacking the ball out of his hands while he was dribbling, and making nothing-but-net 3-pointers. And then after the game, she trash talks him and stalks off the court in triumph, leaving him abject and humiliated.

I just get so tired of this.

If you want to have a high-school drama where an arrogant douchebag gets his come-uppance at the hands of a girl, fine. But this is just silly. Because in order not to offend the feminists, every movie and TV show now has to have a KAF (kick-ass female) either as a lead or as a major character, who can compete toe-to-toe with the most physically competitive men.

So now we're regularly regaled with ludicrous plot lines that have 5' 110 lb. teenaged girls beating the snot out of three 200 lb. men.

We laugh at those old 50s TV shows that showed married couples sleeping in separate beds. Ho ho ho, we laugh. They're trying to pretend sex doesn't exist. How puritanical. How silly. But I think the proliferation of these KAF characters is equally silly. In order to conform with the strictures of feminist ideology, we can't *bear* the truth that men can, generally, physically outperform women, and the competition isn't even close.

So we haven't become more "liberated", we just close our eyes to different things, in order not upset a different set of uptight, holier-than-thou prigs.

But then suddenly reality bites you on the butt:

In preparation for two upcoming friendlies against Russia, the U.S. women’s national (soccer) team played the FC Dallas U-15 boys academy team on Sunday and fell 5-2, according to FC Dallas’ official website.

But... but... how could this happen? Where are all the KAFs that we see on TV? Surely these scrawny teenaged boys should have been no match for the grrls and their awesome grrl power.

Next up, my other pet peeve from nonsense TV: the racially-integrated street gang. But that will be for another time.

Someone in the comments of the article was blubbering about "misogyny", and argued that the USWNT wasn't going "all out" to win. But others pointed out it scarcely would have mattered:

This is hardly surprising. My U14 boys teams (12 and 13 year olds) were faster and stronger than the U19 women's teams in our league, and we only played them a couple times because it seemed pointless beyond that. So now take a U15 team (14 year olds) against a women's team, and the boys are older, even faster and stronger than my 12 and 13 year olds -- what do you expect to happen? Doesn't matter if the USWNT was trying hard or not, they would have their hands full.

Which is one of the reasons why I think the progressives are pushing hard on the transgender issue. If the genders are confused, it is easier to hide the obvious truths of gender differences.

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And now for something completely different: An antifag goon getting his ass beat by a black Trump supporter wielding a large stick:

The soundtrack is unnecessary and annoying, so you can mute it and not miss anything.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 11:30 AM




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1 Two root canals?

Krikee.

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2017 11:30 AM (qUNWi)

2 Holy crap.

That black dude beating down antifa is beautiful.

I think I'll be watching that all day.

Posted by: eleven at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (qUNWi)

3
Billy Jean King and Bobby Riggs.



Fuck Im old.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (8XRCm)

4 Big stick +1

Posted by: IP at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (A/Djk)

5 I watched that delicious video of that twat getting his ass beaten on mute...on a loop...and chuckled.

Posted by: IC at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (a0IVu)

6 >>But I think the proliferation of these KAF characters is equally silly.

Yes, it's quite tiresome.
Especially when it's also always some smartypants girl who out-thinks the boys in class. They keep saying "The Future is Female" and it's looking likely that they mean solely female.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (NOIQH)

7 My new dentist has Fox News on his waiting room TV.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (IqV8l)

8 But I notice it's tuned to the Disney channel which is running some show that appears to be about teenagers, geared to a teenaged audience.
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So it was a XXX gay sex gangbang?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:33 AM (vg8iE)

9 I saw Stick Brutha in the vid where moldypuff got clocked. but he was just sidelining.

Thanks for this, good to see him in action.

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:33 AM (kD8Fh)

10 You already gave the reason. It's TV which has no basis in reality.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 20, 2017 11:33 AM (mpXpK)

11 Well, given they're leftists they're probably not anti-"fag" (even though I dislike that f word ) They're just Profa or Amerifa.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:33 AM (fDdVG)

12 Tired of the white guy always being the hopeless, helpless fool on commercials. That crap has been non-stop for at least 30 years.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at April 20, 2017 11:34 AM (uBQPh)

13 I like it when they find out violence can go both ways.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 20, 2017 11:34 AM (xGZ+b)

14 This is bullshit because the WNBA is fucking AWESOME!!!

Posted by: tu3031 at April 20, 2017 11:34 AM (qJhUV)

15 On a related subject - the man and/or white person in every ad is the foolish consumer who choose Brand X. The woman / POC is the one who made the right choice. Every. Single. Ad.

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 11:34 AM (7HtZB)

16 I did watch one of my sons, a pretty decent basketball player, lose a one on one game to a grrrrl when they were in college.

Grrrrrl is now my daughter in law and was in the top ten in 3-point shooting percentage in her division in college hoops at the time. Never drove on him. Would just drill three pointers and smile very sweetly at him.

Posted by: Furious George at April 20, 2017 11:35 AM (j+dfT)

17 The problem with KAFs is that rarely does the story justify their kick-ass nature. No, it's just GRRL POWER!

I can live with a KAF character if there's a reasonable enough explanation for things. Raised as a child soldier by a half-crazy guerilla fighter. Being a psychic who's also been experimented on extensively by the government. That sort of thing.

(For those who are wondering, yes, those are the backstories for Jyn Erso in Rogue One, and River Tam in Firefly, respectively.)

The problem comes when you try to add the KAF merit to a female character whose background doesn't allow for it. Then it just looks ridiculous.

Posted by: Toastrider at April 20, 2017 11:35 AM (MbjKe)

18 12 Tired of the white guy always being the hopeless, helpless fool on commercials. That crap has been non-stop for at least 30 years.

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Has anyone noticed on the Subaru commercial where the parents are all telling the kids, "You're not taking that" that the kids getting reprimanded are ALL white. The kid who says he's taking the Subaru is black.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:35 AM (vg8iE)

19 And now for something completely different: An antifag goon getting his ass beat by a black Trump supporter wielding a large stick:

Now THAT'S woke!

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at April 20, 2017 11:35 AM (RD7QR)

20 It actually was normal, back then, for a husband & wife to have separate beds.

My grandparents had separate rooms.

Posted by: RKae at April 20, 2017 11:35 AM (oKU1I)

21 Stick Man needs to go grab Alt-Knight to be his superhero side kick.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:35 AM (oZ6kz)

22 14 This is bullshit because the WNBA is fucking AWESOME!!!
Posted by: tu3031 at April 20, 2017 11:34 AM (qJhUV)

They may not be able to slam dunk, but they make up for in with solid fundamen.... HAHAHAHAHA!!!

I thought I could finish that without laughing this time.

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (7HtZB)

23 That black dude has skills.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (PY9jH)

24 Well, given they're leftists they're probably not anti-"fag" (even though I dislike that f word ) They're just Profa or Amerifa.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:33 AM (fDdVG)

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They like to be called antifa.

Ace is ridiculing them by calling them antifags.

Yes, I doubt they are anti gay.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (8XRCm)

25 So now we're regularly regaled with ludicrous plot lines that have 5' 110 lb. teenaged girls beating the snot out of three 200 lb. men.

Joss Whedon's entire Hollywood career is built on fetishizing anorexic girls inflicting violence on adult men.

Posted by: V the K at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (O7MnT)

26 And this too, is the story of Hillary.

Posted by: irright at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (pMGkg)

27 OM,

All of this...ALL of it was battle space prep for the Arkansas Gila Monster.

Madam Secretary
Ghostbusters
Veep

The teen and child programming just complemented the adult stuff.

To settle all of this, I suggest the WNBA champs take on the worst NBA team and see what happens.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (B+qrE)

28 I think the take away here is that basketball sucks and should never be viewed again

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (FZYNt)

29 Never saw GI Jane but that seemed to be one of the opening salvos of the KAF genre.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (khWYc)

30 Billy Jean King and Bobby Riggs.
Fuck Im old.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (8XRCm)


I'm old enough to remember that one, too. I remember the feminists all cackling and crowing about a 50+ washed-up male who was making his living as a tennis hustler getting beaten by the best woman tennis player at the top of her game. Like that proved anything.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (snI+j)

31
Well, given they're leftists they're probably not anti-"fag" (even
though I dislike that f word ) They're just Profa or Amerifa. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:33 AM (fDdVG)
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Blackshirts.

Good on Auburn for the no masks and confiscating their single-stick weapons. I laughed at how they still tried to hide their faces.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (MIKMs)

32 This got willowed:

Son's latest sticker on his truck is a picture of Mad Dog Mattis with the caption, "Make Killing Great Again."

I'm sure the snowflakes on his campus looove it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (PY9jH)

33 >>
Tired of the white guy always being the hopeless, helpless fool on
commercials. That crap has been non-stop for at least 30 years.


HATE that. But they've stopped doing that in one particular case: When dad is being a loving parent to his kick-ass daughter. This is one of my new pet peeves. Men can (finally!) now achieve greatness -- but only when it's encouraging and empowering their daughters.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (NOIQH)

34 Men must be made Dinks.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072000/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (IqV8l)

35 My late brother, who was 6'-4" and a pretty good basketball player, came home from school one day and vowed that he would never again play against girls. He said they claw, scratch, stomp on your foot just as you are making a jump shot, and other assorted things like that. This was back in the 1970's and which team won the game is lost to history, but I remember him saying it was the most dirty, viscous game he ever played in.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (kUmUV)

36 20 It actually was normal, back then, for a husband & wife to have separate beds.

My grandparents had separate rooms.
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And I think it holds true as you get older. Most of the couples I know over 60 have separate bedrooms.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (vg8iE)

37 The Black Trump supporter who-from what you can tell in the larger photo-doesn't look like a young guy- is certainly handy with a stick.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:38 AM (fDdVG)

38 36 And I think it holds true as you get older. Most of the couples I know over 60 have separate bedrooms.

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My mom and dad did that for about a year, but that was because the dog kept climbing into bed with them and crowding mom out.

Posted by: Toastrider at April 20, 2017 11:38 AM (MbjKe)

39 Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:35 AM (vg8iE)

Yeah but it's kind of true. White boys be crazy. For example. The X Games.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 11:38 AM (khWYc)

40 Speaking of KAF, what ever happened to the one-on-one basketball game between KAF Sarah Palin and arrogant douchebag Barack Obama?

Posted by: OCBill at April 20, 2017 11:38 AM (df+Zi)

41 We laugh at those old 50s TV shows that showed married couples sleeping in separate beds. Ho ho ho, we laugh. They're trying to pretend sex doesn't exist. How puritanical. How silly.

What the left tries desperately to ignore is that that was the progressivism of the era. Improvement from above. Man must simply be offered all that is good and right be example, with all contrary or worrisome elements expunged. All the MST3k-bait societal improvement videos were cut from the same cloth as TED talks on privilege. The progs merely moved on to different hectoring grounds in their search for the perfect utopic area for improvement - the only change what they believed was the new Holy Grail, the key to perfection in man.

Then, it was vaguely traditionalist (but militantly Social Darwinist), and now it's Darwin-Lite with the nihilist strain of the beatnik in full wretched bloom. We aren't going to make anyone perfect, so let's redefine perfect now that we've "Nudged" society this far and *perfect* anyone who dares to disagree.

There are now infinite contradictory "truths" which are all True as long as they fit within Greater Truth, which is What Is Correct. It is Correct that women are just the same as men in all ways, so the Lesser Truth that the KAF is real and realistic is (despite being a lie) eminently Correct.

Anyone who challenges a Lesser Truth regardless of its falseness imperils Correctness, which is the very fundament of reality. Therefore, if you note that a lie is a lie, you are a crazy person.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 20, 2017 11:39 AM (eXSOZ)

42 HATE that. But they've stopped doing that in one particular case: When dad is being a loving parent to his kick-ass daughter. This is one of my new pet peeves. Men can (finally!) now achieve greatness -- but only when it's encouraging and empowering their daughters.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (NOIQH)

And if the dad is sporting a beta male beard.

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 11:39 AM (7HtZB)

43 Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (vg8iE)

I know older people who have separate bedrooms because they can't stand the snoring of their male spouse with sleep apnea-and the stupid masks never fit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:39 AM (fDdVG)

44 Well, given they're leftists they're probably not anti-"fag" (even though I dislike that f word ) They're just Profa or Amerifa.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:33 AM (fDdVG)


I was using "fag" in the old sense, i.e as a synomym for for pussy, coward, craven, all of which describe those mask-wearing goons to a 'T'.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:40 AM (snI+j)

45 >>Has anyone noticed on the Subaru commercial where the parents are all
telling the kids, "You're not taking that" that the kids getting
reprimanded are ALL white. The kid who says he's taking the Subaru is
black.


Oh, yes, that one is so obvious.
There's another Subaru ad where they profile two couples with the same car (buy our car no matter what road you take!). The Indian couple have a kid, the white couple get a dog.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:40 AM (NOIQH)

46 Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (snI+j)

And there's credible evidence he threw the match.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 11:40 AM (khWYc)

47 Posted by: Toastrider at April 20, 2017 11:38 AM (MbjKe)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:40 AM (fDdVG)

48 Next up, my other pet peeve from nonsense TV: the racially-integrated street gang. But that will be for another time.

Or the racially-integrated commercial marriage. Watch any night of television (it frankly doesn't matter which channel) and see how many

- black man / black woman
- black man / white woman
- white man / white woman
- white man / black woman

marriages are seen in the commercials. I guarantee you the first two vastly outnumber the last two, with black man / white woman being the dominant TV demographic, even though I doubt it's anywhere near that prevalent in reality.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 20, 2017 11:40 AM (X6fMO)

49 I've told this before, but:

My brother worked for the Athletic department at the University of Tennessee when he was in college. He did video editing, amongst other things.

Anyway, he told me about how the women's basketball team (this was while they were in near constant contention for the national championship) would play practice games with the men's team (while they sucked overall). The only way to even the playing field was to impose a rule where the men were not allowed to jump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:40 AM (/prE6)

50 Antifa girl as seen in viral video after the antifa smackdown.

That dreadlocked little porn queen in Berkeley wasn't a KAF, although she posed as on on social media before heading out for the streets.

Some 180-pound guy punched her right between the eyes and knocked her down.

When it's for real, shit gets real.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (U6f54)

51 I know older people who have separate bedrooms because they can't stand the snoring of their male spouse with sleep apnea-and the stupid masks never fit.

Men are not alone in snoring, Fen.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (B+qrE)

52 Yeah, that's funny.

FWIW, the ol' college had a pretty decent women's BB team. Their secret?

They scrimmaged against the guy intramural teams. Unofficially, of course, so no rule breaking...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (MINbv)

53 As I've said before, I HATE the commercials where the dad feels the need to dress up as a fairy princess to play with his daughter(s).

That behavior would have scared the hell out of me when I was little. But then, my dad was an alpha male.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (PY9jH)

54 4 Big stick +1

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cool, it's magical

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (h/uSM)

55 I remember a while ago they had the top female black belt vs the top male black belt in a match.
Seriously, was like if my 3 year old grand daughter was trying to kick my ass.

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (QM5S2)

56 Blackshirts.

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Hey!!! Watch it buster!!

Posted by: Cornhuskser Defense at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (8XRCm)

57 >>I know older people who have separate bedrooms
because they can't stand the snoring of their male spouse with sleep
apnea-and the stupid masks never fit. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:39 AM (fDdVG)

Thus is the domestic tranquility in Chateau Zod maintained.

Posted by: General Zod at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (Bdeb0)

58 I've struggled with this for a while. I recognize on the one hand that the grrl power lead is not only a great way to get published and read (many people, not just girls, love the concept and want to read about KAF (love the term) protagonists), but its also something psychological about women.

I know I'm on shaky ground here so 'ettes, please help me out here. I have observed in my five decades of life that women seem much more inclined than men to take cues on behavior and build their life and self image around what other women around them are like. That is, men are more stubbornly independent and women more socially malleable.

So when women see weakness, timidity, gentleness, and emotional immaturity in women around them and in media, that's how they shape their lives. When they see courage, boldness, risk-taking, etc, that's more how they shape their lives. Now, there are hard-wired, created limits to how far any of us can go as a man or a woman; on average its a very rare woman who equals a man in boldness and adventure and a rare man who equals a woman in empathy and detail focus. But the tendencies can be shaped in women (and men, but that's another topic).

So the KAF helps girls get out of a shell of timidity and gentleness, which isn't all bad: the 1940s concept of femininity screaming at a mouse and hiding behind a man or fainting at the slightest trouble was kind of obnoxious. The roles were too polarized and excessive. I can see the value in exposing girls to role models who demonstrate strength and courage and reaching beyond their current situation to something more.

(more below).

Posted by: Raoul Castro at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (39g3+)

59 Oh, yes, that one is so obvious.
There's another Subaru ad where they profile two couples with the same car (buy our car no matter what road you take!). The Indian couple have a kid, the white couple get a dog.
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I f'ing hate that one too. Especially when the wife goes back to work, leaving the inept stay-at-home dad with the baby.... where he literally whines like a fucking little girl "We're fine...heehehe" I want to punch him in his mealy, pussified mouth.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:42 AM (vg8iE)

60 >>And if the dad is sporting a beta male beard.

The ones that really annoy are the ones where dad is behaving like a mom: wearing a princess crown and have painted nails, that sort of thing. No. Dad's have their own role, their own style of parenting; they don't need to be moms to be a good parent.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:42 AM (NOIQH)

61 looking forward to the movie where the girl kidnaps a man and rapes him in her dungeon.

o, and i'm available...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 20, 2017 11:42 AM (h/uSM)

62 53 As I've said before, I HATE the commercials where the dad feels the need to dress up as a fairy princess to play with his daughter(s).

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I didn't need to dress up like a fairy princess, it just felt right.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at April 20, 2017 11:42 AM (7HtZB)

63 Someone in the comments of the article was blubbering about "misogyny", and argued that the USWNT wasn't going "all out" to win.


So they prepared for an international match by dogging it and practicing losing?

Makes sense to me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (SRKgf)

64 Yes, the problem with the KAF characters isn't that they're female, it's that they're waifish. No one has any trouble believing that Jennifer Walters can beat the shit out of a bunch of men - she's the fucking She-Hulk. But the Joss-Kwan-Do shit with tiny girls beating up behemoth men just isn't at all believable.

It would be equally unbelievable for a scrawny guy to be doing the same things (without some sort of other explanation - psychic abilities or another hidden type of power) - Captain America doesn't kick ass as a sickly undersized youth, he does it as a perfect physical specimen after he gets transformed.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (oZ6kz)

65 >>53
As I've said before, I HATE the commercials where the dad feels the need
to dress up as a fairy princess to play with his daughter(s). Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (PY9jH)

I hate the commercials where the dad dresses up like a fairy princess and the daughter dresses up as a dominatrix with a pouty attitude and a horsewhip. That's not who we are.

Posted by: General Zod at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (Bdeb0)

66 And I think it holds true as you get older. Most of the couples I know over 60 have separate bedrooms.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (vg8iE)


Really? Wow. Mrs. Muse and I are both over 60 and *wouldn't dream* of sleeping apart. There's nothing quite like cuddling with your spouse under warm covers on a cold night.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (snI+j)

67 Bike lock wielding Antifart unmasked by auties.

Eric Clanton, Berkeley prof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-N5e8tPtQ

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (kD8Fh)

68 Thus is the domestic tranquility in Chateau Zod maintained.

Same here in the land of Bernie Sanders and for the same reason.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (kUmUV)

69 the 1940s concept of femininity screaming at a mouse and hiding behind a man or fainting at the slightest trouble was kind of obnoxious.

That's a 1940's concept of femininity? I watch films from the 1940s. L don't see many women portrayed like that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (fDdVG)

70
Steven Crowder did a take down of the false picture current media culture presents of Phightin' Gurrrrrlz. I'll see if I can dig up the link.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (v1g1+)

71 53 As I've said before, I HATE the commercials where the dad feels the need to dress up as a fairy princess to play with his daughter(s).

That behavior would have scared the hell out of me when I was little. But then, my dad was an alpha male.
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I really loathe the one where she gets her period or where she's shaving her legs. Really, dude? You don't know a woman who can talk to her about these things? I would think that it would be important for a WOMAN to talk to a girl about these things.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (vg8iE)

72 Posted by: Raoul Castro at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (39g3+)

But women do scream at the sight of a mouse and do take shelter behind the guy. I just saw it happen a few days ago. Not all women of course but it's not a false stereotype.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (khWYc)

73 58
So the KAF helps girls get out of a shell of timidity and gentleness, which isn't all bad: the 1940s concept of femininity screaming at a mouse and hiding behind a man or fainting at the slightest trouble was kind of obnoxious. The roles were too polarized and excessive. I can see the value in exposing girls to role models who demonstrate strength and courage and reaching beyond their current situation to something more.

(more below).
Posted by: Raoul Castro at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (39g3+)

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I wonder if this idea is somehow related to the seeming reality that women tend to use slogans and self-help posters in office spaces a whole lot more than men.

My desk is covered in American flags (historic, state, modern), presidential biographies, and some Presidential Pez dispensers. The very nice and capable woman who sits next to me has a bunch of slogans like "You can do it!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (/prE6)

74 To settle all of this, I suggest the WNBA champs take on the worst NBA team and see what happens.

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how about the 2nd worst?

Posted by: Philadelphia 76ers at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (h/uSM)

75 I know older people who have separate bedrooms because they can't stand the snoring of their male spouse with sleep apnea-and the stupid masks never fit.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:39 AM (fDdVG)


Mrs. Muse and I have that problem, only she's the one who snores. But I've found a nice set of earplugs. Problem solved. I cannot imagine sleeping apart from her.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:45 AM (snI+j)

76
Tony Randall and Larry Hagman were vehemently anti fag. (Fag being cigarette)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 20, 2017 11:45 AM (IqV8l)

77 The women's soccer team would have won if they hadn't been let down --by their own staff! They should have been up by 50 goals!

How can women break through glass ceilings when they are constantly being failed by their aides?

I say get the CIA and the NSA to look at the emails of the team coaching staff and managers! Let's find out who the traitors are!

And if you coaches and managers think it's so easy to beat that boys' team, then why don't you do it? Go ahead. You do it.

Posted by: Hillary at April 20, 2017 11:45 AM (m5dkR)

78 That's a 1940's concept of femininity? I watch films from the 1940s. L don't see many women portrayed like that.
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Mildred Pierce!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 20, 2017 11:45 AM (vg8iE)

79 63 Someone in the comments of the article was blubbering about "misogyny", and argued that the USWNT wasn't going "all out" to win.


So they prepared for an international match by dogging it and practicing losing?

Makes sense to me.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (SRKgf)

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"Alright everyone! We're about to go into an international tournament that will determine the future of our program's finances! Let's just shit the bed against a bunch of 14 year old boys just to get it out of our system!"
-Or something

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:45 AM (/prE6)

80 Especially when it's also always some smartypants girl who out-thinks the boys in class.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (NOIQH)



And on the next breath they whine about the dearth of women in STEM subjects. So what became of the out-thinking then, huh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 11:45 AM (SRKgf)

81 There's nothing quite like cuddling with your spouse under warm covers on a cold night.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (snI+j)
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Menopausal IPspouse and her 50 degree room temp sleeping habits are making it sound reasonable. LOL


Posted by: IP at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (A/Djk)

82
I'm old enough to remember that one, too. I remember the feminists all cackling and crowing about a 50+ washed-up male who was making his living as a tennis hustler getting beaten by the best woman tennis player at the top of her game. Like that proved anything.

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wanna bet that Riggs wagered on Her?

Posted by: Philadelphia 76ers at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (h/uSM)

83 Joss Whedon's entire Hollywood career is built on fetishizing anorexic girls inflicting violence on adult men.
Never underestimate the role of fetish in letting this nonsense/overreaction to the passive female trope stay normalized. There's a lot of disbelief being suspended... on dicks.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (eXSOZ)

84 69 the 1940s concept of femininity screaming at a mouse and hiding behind a man or fainting at the slightest trouble was kind of obnoxious.

That's a 1940's concept of femininity? I watch films from the 1940s. L don't see many women portrayed like that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (fDdVG)

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First movie that comes to mind is His Girl Friday.

She wasn't a scared little kitten.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (/prE6)

85 I used to make a ridiculous joke about liberals suing God over reality.

Now, I am waiting for the actual headline.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (7ZVPa)

86 Has anyone noticed on the Subaru commercial where the parents are all telling the kids, "You're not taking that" that the kids getting reprimanded are ALL white. The kid who says he's taking the Subaru is black.

Posted by: bicentennialguy


They don't show the kid later getting pulled over by a cop who figures, what black kid is legit driving a Subaru?

I know, but still.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (9krrF)

87 At the same time, I think that giving girls utterly unrealistic, ridiculous role models while telling them the whole time "you can be this" is damaging and harmful to girls. No, you can't be this. You aren't this.

It reminds me of a brand of Christianity which teaches the idea that you can be sinless and holy in this life, that you can through proper system and piety, live a sinless life. You know what this does to people? They either go crazy, lie to themselves constantly (downgrading sin to "error" etc), or quit the faith. Its a lie.

Telling people they can be something beyond their ability or reality and raising them on this myth is harmful and cruel. No Sally, I'm sorry, you can't beat the boys in all the boy stuff. They will humiliate and crush your dreams. There's a reason men and women don't compete in nearly every athletic competition on earth, including ones you wouldn't expect like Biathlon.

So you're setting your daughter up to failure and misery and humiliation, not giving her strength. Back when boys had rough, strong male role models, nobody told them they could BE superman or John Wayne They only showed them how such a man behaved, and left them as an example of what to aspire to.

Posted by: Raoul Castro at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (39g3+)

88 Root canals are a scam. The teeth go bad eventually, anyway. Just have them yanked, and go with implants.

And the movie of the black guy beating the anitfag is a disappointment. Two seconds of action, endlessly looped.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (0deF2)

89 85 I used to make a ridiculous joke about liberals suing God over reality.

Now, I am waiting for the actual headline.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
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Getting return on service is going to be a bitch.

Posted by: Furious George at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (j+dfT)

90 That does it. No more socks for me, ever. I just can't do it right.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (39g3+)

91 >>As I've said before, I HATE the commercials where the dad feels the need
to dress up as a fairy princess to play with his daughter(s).
That behavior would have scared the hell out of me when I was little. But then, my dad was an alpha male.


But, but, but...that's "toxic masculinity", and we can't have that!

I see this as intentionally devaluing to unique role of a dad. Maybe these ad execs grew up in a home without out a dad, so they have no idea what one looks like. Or, they know what a dad looks like and they hate it (take this, daddy!!), so they're intentionally demeaning the image of a dad to be nothing more than an over-sized female playmate.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (NOIQH)

92 >>> Next up, my other pet peeve from nonsense TV: the racially-integrated street gang. But that will be for another time.


Dear OregonMuse, I hate your stinking guts. You make me vomit. You're scum between my toes! Love, Alfalfa.

Posted by: Little Rascals at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (hvf9s)

93 What happened to the show Pitch. Dumbest concept ever.

Here comes the pitch! Whoa, that got out of here in a hurry. To be fair, that wouldn't have gotten out of a lot of parks. Yellowstone, for example.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (kTF2Z)

94 That's a 1940's concept of femininity? I watch films from the 1940s. L don't see many women portrayed like that."

Of course it was. Don't you know that everything was really, really bad in the olden days? There wasn't even color back then - just black and white!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (MINbv)

95 How come a lot more people don't carry sticks, baseball bats etc. like the black guy did?

Or something smaller you can hide on your person so the pigs (my name for blue city cops who don't do anything) can't take it from you.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (Jcg9Q)

96 "Now, I am waiting for the actual headline.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada "

It would suck to be the guy who has to serve G-d with the subpoena.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (oZ6kz)

97 90 That does it. No more socks for me, ever. I just can't do it right.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (39g3+)

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I posted as Amy Schumer for an entire thread and never noticed.

I don't like the socks either.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (/prE6)

98 57 >>I know older people who have separate bedrooms
because they can't stand the snoring of their male spouse with sleep
apnea-and the stupid masks never fit. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:39 AM (fDdVG)

Thus is the domestic tranquility in Chateau Zod maintained.

Posted by: General Zod at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (Bdeb0)

We have separate rooms in Casa joncelli for two reasons:

1. I get up at 4:30 am and she gets home from work at 10:30 pm, and

2. She doesn't think she snores but I know she does.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (RD7QR)

99 Posted by: Philadelphia 76ers at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (h/uSM)

More like somebody Riggs had done business with before bet on King and made an offer to Riggs that he couldn't refuse.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 11:49 AM (khWYc)

100 In "His Girl Friday" to use just one example from 1940 we have the strong, clever and funny Rosalind Russell playing against Cary Grant. Jump on a chair because she saw a mouse? I don't think so. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:49 AM (fDdVG)

101 I always had a problem with these multi-species, combined arms fantasy adventuring parties. Come on. We can't get along interspecies; toss three of four different species together - and you'd have bloody chaos.

But I'm a geek, a white, straight, male - w hairy balls, racist breeder geek.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 11:49 AM (AzDzi)

102 She wasn't a scared little kitten.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:46 AM (/prE6)


WWII era films also depicted females as strong and courageous, that one movie with Claudette Colbert and the nurses who had to evacuate the Phillipine island comes to mind.

And then Greer Garson in the movie that describes courage on the home front.

"Traditional" females, yet not shrinking violets.

Mildred Pierce, played by Joan Crawford, single mom who opened a restaurant, worked and slaved for her daughter who turned out to be a shit.

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:49 AM (kD8Fh)

103 93 What happened to the show Pitch. Dumbest concept ever.

Here comes the pitch! Whoa, that got out of here in a hurry. To be fair, that wouldn't have gotten out of a lot of parks. Yellowstone, for example.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (kTF2Z)

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I think we talked about this a few weeks ago.

A female pitcher could potentially be used in some sort of specialist role (lefty sluggers who can't hit on the inside, or something), but would never be consistent enough to be a closer or even thought of in the starting rotation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:49 AM (/prE6)

104 69 That's a 1940's concept of femininity? I watch films from the 1940s. L don't see many women portrayed like that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:44 AM (fDdVG)
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Exactly. My late dad, God rest his soul, grew up watching the classic movies of the 30's and 40's and always maintained that those films had much stronger female characters than movies of today. Look at the characters Barbara Stanwyck, Jean Arthur, or Rosalind Russell tended to play.

There's a really good book called "Fast Talking Dames" on that subject.

So many of the female characters in film and other media are beyond irritating. The remake of "Beauty and the Beast" being a prime example.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (hYNPr)

105 As usual, Family Guy is about the only place in the DMC that's willing to counter the ur-feminist narrative.

https://youtu.be/INdljQlAEPc

Posted by: V the K at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (O7MnT)

106 "What happened to the show Pitch. Dumbest concept ever.

Here comes the pitch! Whoa, that got out of here in a hurry. To be fair, that wouldn't have gotten out of a lot of parks. Yellowstone, for example.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (kTF2Z) "

It is, however, an accurate depiction of the current state of the San Diego Padres, who probably could start playing women out there and not fair much worse.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (oZ6kz)

107 --
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I can
see the value in exposing girls to role models who demonstrate strength
and courage and reaching beyond their current situation to something
more.



(more below).

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Agreed. They do need to throw some rationality and reality into the mix, though.

Posted by: irright at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (pMGkg)

108 I'm old enough to remember that one, too. I remember the feminists all cackling and crowing about a 50+ washed-up male who was making his living as a tennis hustler getting beaten by the best woman tennis player at the top of her game. Like that proved anything.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (snI+j)

Please correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Riggs claim later that he threw that match?

Posted by: For the Record? at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (d76uN)

109 To settle all of this, I suggest the WNBA champs take on the worst NBA team and see what happens.

I'd be content with the WNBA champs taking on our church league champion.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (Jcg9Q)

110 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-N5e8tPtQ
Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (kD8Fh)

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The also outed his phone number, home address, place of work, work email.

It is wrong to release personal info like this. But..... fuck him.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (8XRCm)

111 I'm also seeing ads online about how women exercising is somehow empowering or something.

Literally suddenly jogging is somehow some badass thing.

It's so fucking retarded.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (4ErVI)

112 To be fair, women are better at multiple-multiples and emotional abuse.

Posted by: Fritz at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (2Mnv1)

113 I think the take away here is that basketball sucks and should never be viewed again

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 20, 2017 11:36 AM (FZYNt)

Welcome to the party, man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (0deF2)

114 So they prepared for an international match by dogging it and practicing losing?

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we talkin bout PRACTICE

Posted by: Allen Iverson at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (h/uSM)

115 This was back in the 1970's and which team won the game is lost to history, but I remember him saying it was the most dirty, viscous game he ever played in.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (kUmUV)


You mean it was really gooey? That sounds... disturbing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (snI+j)

116 102 WWII era films also depicted females as strong and courageous, that one movie with Claudette Colbert and the nurses who had to evacuate the Phillipine island comes to mind.

And then Greer Garson in the movie that describes courage on the home front.

"Traditional" females, yet not shrinking violets.

Mildred Pierce, played by Joan Crawford, single mom who opened a restaurant, worked and slaved for her daughter who turned out to be a shit.
Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:49 AM (kD8Fh)

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So, movies were made by men, and they kept showing strong women.

Weird...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (/prE6)

117
Someone in the comments of the article was blubbering about "misogyny", and argued that the USWNT wasn't going "all out" to win.


A wise man once said you play like you practice.So if they're not going all out in a practice game it doesn't bode well for them

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (lKyWE)

118 My daughters played on a very good girl's team all the years they were growing up. They won state championships 4 years in a row. 3 of those years they had perfect seasons. They scrimmaged the local boys team, which some years only won a game or two all year. The girls would routinely beat the boys coming and going in the younger years. But by the time these kids were in middle school the boys team, which had no talent whatsoever, would routinely win short scrimmage games by 5 goals or more. That was with the boys laying well off so as not to trample the ladies. The girls would play as tough as they could and with all their considerable finesses and skill but they had no chance whatever. Scoring a goal on the guys was a major victory.

So, yeah, not surprised a bit.

But as far as television goes, it's always been unrealistic. How many years have we been subjected to the fantasy that a fairly bright tween could outsmart every and all adults in the vicinity?

Posted by: Spontaneous Human Combustion Victims Association at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (hkD6R)

119 And the movie of the black guy beating the anitfag is a disappointment. Two seconds of action, endlessly looped.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (0deF2)


Dunno, man, I could watch it for a while. Seriously wondering if the guy took a kendo course back in college, too, he's got some impressive moves and poise.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (8nWyX)

120 All this being said, I'm pretty sure Ronda Rousey could render me unconscious in about 30 seconds.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (Yi9Gb)

121 But the Joss-Kwan-Do shit with tiny girls beating up behemoth men just isn't at all believable.

But they do that move where they put their thighs around his neck and spin around him, throwing him to the ground! ALL OF THEM.

Seriously, though. I don't care if the Black Widow does it, beacause this is the same setting some douchebag can build a suit of armor and fly in it and another guy turns into an 8 foot tall green goon.

Where I can't stand it is in settings that are supposed to be real, as if learning martial arts allows you to defy physics and logic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (39g3+)

122 I might as well often have a separate bedroom because I often wake up with horrible insomnia and I don't want to annoy spouse by turning on the light, so I just go into another room to read.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:52 AM (fDdVG)

123 "I always had a problem with these multi-species, combined arms fantasy adventuring parties. Come on. We can't get along interspecies; toss three of four different species together - and you'd have bloody chaos.

But I'm a geek, a white, straight, male - w hairy balls, racist breeder geek.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 11:49 AM (AzDzi) "

I think the general way that's hand-waved is that adventurers are naturally iconoclasts/outcasts, so they're more likely to get along with different races. Whereas normies/commoners are expected to be more xenophobic, especially the 'old' races like elves and dwarves.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:52 AM (oZ6kz)

124 2. She doesn't think she snores but I know she does.
Posted by: joncelli

You need to mention that to your doc. Could be important.

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 11:52 AM (AzDzi)

125 95 How come a lot more people don't carry sticks, baseball bats etc. like the black guy did?

Based Stickman faces charges over his beatdown of an Antifart.
Because the blue zone po-po only arrests those on our side.

The also outed his phone number, home address, place of work, work email.

It is wrong to release personal info like this. But..... fuck him.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (8XRCm)


#warrules



Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:52 AM (kD8Fh)

126 90 That does it. No more socks for me, ever. I just can't do it right.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:47 AM (39g3+)

Don't be a sandals guy. Just don't.

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (7HtZB)

127 I'm old enough to remember that one, too. I remember the feminists all cackling and crowing about a 50+ washed-up male who was making his living as a tennis hustler getting beaten by the best woman tennis player at the top of her game. Like that proved anything.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (snI+j)

And there is some pretty strong suspicion that Riggs threw the match. He owed some huge gambling debts to the Mob.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (0deF2)

128 First movie that comes to mind is His Girl Friday.

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I always tell girls that when women got the vote they went into STEM fields with a vengeance. Not unusual to have a grandma biochemist. After WWII, stereotypes took hold. Now, just try to find a cheap girl bike that is not pink or purple or sparkly -- same with clothes. My youngest daughter was afraid that all that pink and purple would steal her brains. Insisted on primary colors.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (MIKMs)

129 123 I think the general way that's hand-waved is that adventurers are naturally iconoclasts/outcasts, so they're more likely to get along with different races. Whereas normies/commoners are expected to be more xenophobic, especially the 'old' races like elves and dwarves.
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:52 AM (oZ6kz)

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Or, they're all unimaginative in concept and are just aping The Lord of the Rings.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (/prE6)

130 WWII era films also depicted females as strong and courageous, that one movie with Claudette Colbert and the nurses who had to evacuate the Phillipine island comes to mind.

It varies, the really good filmes -- the ones that endure -- tended to have more balanced and realistic potrayals of both men and women. The less quality ones, the bulk of the movies put out, not so much. And that doesn't include the radio shows, plays, and books.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (39g3+)

131 Billy Jean King and Bobby Riggs.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (8XRCm)

Rumor had it he was paid to throw the match.

Anyways, one of the Williams sisters, who would crush King in her prime, play some 100+ ranked schlub. The guy crushed her. That's the last the sisters ever discussed beating the men.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (J70i0)

132 I actually enjoy 'The 100,' but the narrative that savage, post-apocalyptic societies would choose to be run by hot teenage lesbians is beyond ridiculous.

Posted by: V the K at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (O7MnT)

133 And there is some pretty strong suspicion that Riggs threw the match. He owed some huge gambling debts to the Mob.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Pffft.

who's afraid of the Mob?

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at April 20, 2017 11:54 AM (FZYNt)

134 There's nothing quite like cuddling with your spouse under warm covers on a cold night.

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Paolo agrees there is nothing like cuddling with your spouse

Posted by: Paulo at April 20, 2017 11:54 AM (h/uSM)

135 Anyways, one of the Williams sisters, who would crush King in her prime, play some 100+ ranked schlub. The guy crushed her. That's the last the sisters ever discussed beating the men.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist

Still waiting for proof the Williams are "sisters"

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 20, 2017 11:54 AM (FZYNt)

136 Well, now you have a multi species group of sociopath outcasrs, with sharps ....

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 11:54 AM (AzDzi)

137 All this being said, I'm pretty sure Ronda Rousey could render me unconscious in about 30 seconds.



Maybe. But she's not dropping John Cena or The Rock, or Vin Diesel.

And THAT'S what the movies show.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (vZ0KM)

138 "Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (39g3+) "

My problem with Black Widow is that she exists in a setting where we've already accepted that super powers exist - if you want a strong woman, you can just give her a power that makes her strong. Black Widow is just a well trained spy.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (oZ6kz)

139 Loved that video loop.

Something to enjoy at your leisure, from Sargon of Akkad's Youtube channel.

The difference between the sexes and the absence of women in STEM disciplines. Hard truths - you'll enjoy this. 18 minutes and worth your time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgenYg3uK3w

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (tHwdc)

140 but I remember him saying it was the most dirty, viscous game he ever played in.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (kUmUV)

They played naked basketball while drenched in molasses? That's hawt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (0deF2)

141 67 Bike lock wielding Antifart unmasked by auties.

Eric Clanton, Berkeley prof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-N5e8tPtQ
Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (kD8Fh)



Nice cheap shot from behind someone else.

(Btw, he's not at Berkeley, but at Diablo Valley College, aka "Daycare U.")

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (SRKgf)

142 Antifa Pinata Boy hardest hit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (JZdsf)

143 85 I used to make a ridiculous joke about liberals suing God over reality.

Now, I am waiting for the actual headline.

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it moved

Posted by: 9th circuit at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (h/uSM)

144 And this isn't new, BTW. In the novel "Jurassic Park", Crichton portrayed the boy as the "science geek" who wound up operating part of the park's computer control system.

Spielberg & company switched it 'round to make a dino flick more appealing to girls...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (MINbv)

145 124 2. She doesn't think she snores but I know she does.
Posted by: joncelli

You need to mention that to your doc. Could be important.
Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 11:52 AM (AzDzi)

Actually a friend of hers and I convinced her to set up a sleep study. I think she's going to be rudely surprised.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (RD7QR)

146 138 "Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (39g3+) "

My problem with Black Widow is that she exists in a setting where we've already accepted that super powers exist - if you want a strong woman, you can just give her a power that makes her strong. Black Widow is just a well trained spy.
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (oZ6kz)

================

My problem is that the stupid Kinsgman 2 trailer got teased two days ago and we still don't have the whole thing.

I feel lucky just to get a sequel, but the foreplay for real content is just irritating me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (/prE6)

147 Post 110 How could people even tell who that guy was in the Profa protest? The coward was wearing sunglasses and a scarf. That's some good detective work unless one of his students outed him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (fDdVG)

148 >>So many of the female characters in film and other media are beyond
irritating. The remake of "Beauty and the Beast" being a prime example.



Yeah, just rented "Miss Sloan." I recall Jessica Chastain talking it up as some kind of bada$$ feminist role - her character is a sociopath. Her motives are inexplicable. Felt the same way I did after watching "Trainwreck" - if this is the behavior that women admire, then we will be a nation of loons.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (NOIQH)

149 "Well, now you have a multi species group of sociopath outcasrs, with sharps ....

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 11:54 AM (AzDzi) "

I'm not saying it's good for society, but it doesn't suspend my disbelief that elves and dwarves could get along if they're the type of people who would leave their tight-knit societies to wander, crash dungeons and fight dragons.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (oZ6kz)

150 40s femininity, ha! My maternal grandmother (biological, long story how I even know) flew bombers during WWII towing aerial targets for AA practice.

Talk to me sometime about 1940s women. Shrinking violets, my ass.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 20, 2017 11:57 AM (9krrF)

151 Remember the old Deep Space Nine show with the fashion-model waifs routinely beating up bouncer-type guys? I'd watch that and wonder why they couldn't cast big old girls like the ones in the Conan movies.

Posted by: Pogonip at April 20, 2017 11:57 AM (kguml)

152 But as far as television goes, it's always been unrealistic. How many years have we been subjected to the fantasy that a fairly bright tween could outsmart every and all adults in the vicinity?
Posted by: Spontaneous Human Combustion Victims Association at April 20, 2017 11:51 AM (hkD6R)

Aw shucks!

Posted by: Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys at April 20, 2017 11:57 AM (hvf9s)

153 "So Proudly We Hail" is the Claudette Colbert movie I was thinking of.

"Mrs. Miniver" is the Greer Garson film.

Then there was Maureen O'Hara in that flick with John Wayne, she was hardly a wimp. He went back to Ireland and met her there.

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:57 AM (kD8Fh)

154 144 And this isn't new, BTW. In the novel "Jurassic Park", Crichton portrayed the boy as the "science geek" who wound up operating part of the park's computer control system.

Spielberg & company switched it 'round to make a dino flick more appealing to girls...
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (MINbv)

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It's the 4 quadrant thing.

You appeal to all 4, then you get a better chance of making money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:57 AM (/prE6)

155 People forget Riggs, 20 years after retirement, played TWO matches, in which he crushed a professional female tennis player. It was only when the best female player in the world went up against him that she managed to beat him in a full match.

And he was in his 50s.

They also forget when Jimmy Connors went up against Martina Navratilova and crushed her like a bug in two games.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:58 AM (39g3+)

156 "To settle all of this, I suggest the WNBA champs take on the worst NBA team and see what happens."
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Forget that. It would be a lop-sided bore.
How about taking on any top-20 college team?

Or, if you want to abolish any size advantage, have them take on the NCAA Div-3 champion. That might be a good contest.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 20, 2017 11:58 AM (0jtPF)

157 Post 110 How could people even tell who that guy was in the Profa protest? The coward was wearing sunglasses and a scarf. That's some good detective work unless one of his students outed him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke



"Hit him! Hit him! He brought us for extra credit!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2017 11:58 AM (vZ0KM)

158 "Next up, my other pet peeve from nonsense TV: the racially-integrated street gang. But that will be for another time."


Come on, Death Wish 3 was hilarious. Manny Fraker FTW.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 11:58 AM (OD2ni)

159 WWII era films also depicted females as strong and courageous, that one movie with Claudette Colbert and the nurses who had to evacuate the Phillipine island comes to mind.

That was So Proudly We Hail, Paramount, 1943, also with Paulette Goddard and Veronica Lake:

http://tinyurl.com/mj5qa58

And then Greer Garson in the movie that describes courage on the home front

From 1942 and MGM, Mrs Miniver:

http://tinyurl.com/ypq8m6

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (X6fMO)

160
Here's the Louder With Crowder take on the Badazz Gurrrlzz schtick. It starts at 21:10 and ends at 26:55

https://youtu.be/hE8rGdr26Rw

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (v1g1+)

161 How come a lot more people don't carry sticks, baseball bats etc. like the black guy did?
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Laws are different -- in IL you can't carry a bat in your car or truck unless you also have a mitt as an excuse. Lethal weapons.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (MIKMs)

162 My problem with Black Widow is that she exists in a setting where we've already accepted that super powers exist - if you want a strong woman, you can just give her a power that makes her strong. Black Widow is just a well trained spy.

Doesn't matter, the genre and setting allows for well-trained people with equipment to go up against monsters and supervillains. Batman is just a rich guy with toys. I don't mind fantasy settings where the waif elf girl can beat up orcs either, its fantasy. Its not meant to be reality.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (39g3+)

163 158 "Next up, my other pet peeve from nonsense TV: the racially-integrated street gang. But that will be for another time."


Come on, Death Wish 3 was hilarious. Manny Fraker FTW.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 11:58 AM (OD2ni)

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Death Wish might be my nominee that took the deepest dive in quality from the first movie to the second.

At least the series of movies that took the deepest, quickest dive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (/prE6)

164
Or, they're all unimaginative in concept and are just aping The Lord of the Rings.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April

The Hobbit's party of Dwarves with a back story worked, you can add one weirdo. Beyond that ...

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (AzDzi)

165 132 I actually enjoy 'The 100,' but the narrative that savage, post-apocalyptic societies would choose to be run by hot teenage lesbians is beyond ridiculous.
Posted by: V the K at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (O7MnT)


A pornhub original production?

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (7HtZB)

166 I really liked the first season of Alias, but after a while it just became so ridiculous that Jennifer Garner could regularly take down several big, beefy guys without getting a scratch. I just couldn't watch it after a while.

Posted by: biancaneve at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (A/iod)

167 Billy Jean King and Bobby Riggs.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 11:32 AM (8XRCm)

Thrown. Bobby Riggs was one of the most inventive and effective players of his day. He also liked to play anyone for money and would handicap himself in ridiculous ways to get them to bet more money they could beat him.

He once played someone for money and used a frying pan for a racket. He won.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (4ErVI)

168 This is why I tend to avoid most movies and TV shows made in recent years. They're all filled with KAFs and they're too irritating to enjoy, especially when they're set in contemporary times (ie, not superhero or fantasy films, where KAFs might fit in).

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (MZcWR)

169 >>Still waiting for proof the Williams are "sisters"


Serena's pregnant.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (NOIQH)

170 Re Riggs and Billy Jean King: at the time, a buddy of mine played on the UCLA tennis team, whose members used to play King. Even the weakest member of the team (fifth man, or whatever it was) used to kick her ass routinely.

He and I watched the Riggs-King match on TV, and he was disgusted, and speculated on the spot that Riggs was going into the tank.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (SRKgf)

171 That's some good detective work unless one of his students outed him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 11:56 AM (fDdVG)


It was the work of 4chan auties. I tried to post the twitter link on the other brothel art thread, but messed it up.

I'll try again.

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (kD8Fh)

172 Antifa Pinata Boy hardest hit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 20, 2017 11:55 AM (JZdsf)

Ha. Good one.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (T71PA)

173 No more socks for me, ever."

Same here. Only w/boots. Everything else (topsiders, flip flops) are sockless...

and yeah, I get the "sock" joke...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (MINbv)

174 162 Doesn't matter, the genre and setting allows for well-trained people with equipment to go up against monsters and supervillains. Batman is just a rich guy with toys. I don't mind fantasy settings where the waif elf girl can beat up orcs either, its fantasy. Its not meant to be reality.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (39g3+)

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Plus that shot of Summer Glau, backlit with the huge knives at the end of Serenity is really groovy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (/prE6)

175 To settle all of this, I suggest the WNBA champs take on the worst NBA team and see what happens."
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Forget that. It would be a lop-sided bore.
How about taking on any top-20 college team?

Or, if you want to abolish any size advantage, have them take on the NCAA Div-3 champion. That might be a good contest.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 20, 2017 11:58 AM (0jtPF)

As I said above, just play our church league champion pickup team. I'd bet a paycheck they couldn't even beat them.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (Jcg9Q)

176
Then there was Maureen O'Hara in that flick with John Wayne, she was hardly a wimp. He went back to Ireland and met her there.


The Quiet Man

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (v1g1+)

177 I can live with a KAF character if there's a reasonable enough explanation for things. Raised as a child soldier by a half-crazy guerilla fighter. Being a psychic who's also been experimented on extensively by the government. That sort of thing.
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Yes. For instance, Buffy of Vampire Slayer fame was a perfectly normal teen girl until the Slayer title devolved onto her and that spell or whatever took hold. Only then did she develop the super-strength and speed we saw in her vampire battles. Even then she had to practice to stay alive. And other human female characters were shown as normal humans, not KAFs.

If in your storytelling you have a justification -- technology, magic -- for the KAF, fine. Otherwise, hell no.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (yrE3y)

178 The next time the US fights a real war - which we haven't in 50 years - there should suddenly be a lot of clarity on "gender issues" and KAFs.

There is a reason that wars have been fought overwhelmingly by men in the past.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (eSx+E)

179 I will note.... the Black Man's Sword forms were very strong...

Note how he stepped into the first strike, then switch his lead foot on the second strike...

Very Well Done!!!!

Posted by: Don Q., aka Grey Wolf, Black Scarf, Band of Black Tigers at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (NgKpN)

180 176
Then there was Maureen O'Hara in that flick with John Wayne, she was hardly a wimp. He went back to Ireland and met her there.

The Quiet Man
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (v1g1+)

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That movie's great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (/prE6)

181 Come on, Death Wish 3 was hilarious. Manny Fraker FTW.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 11:58 AM (OD2ni)

They killed the Giggler, man. THEY KILLED THE GIGGLER!

Weird as I just saw Death Wish II the weekend before last on one of the antenna channels. Such a sleazy piece of garbage, but really fun. They cut the rape scene and the impalement though because of course they did. That stuff in the uncut version is absolutely brutal.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2017 12:02 PM (4ErVI)

182 Still waiting for proof the Williams are "sisters"


Serena's pregnant.


Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (NOIQH)

Is "pics or it didn't happen" applicable here? No?

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 20, 2017 12:02 PM (Jcg9Q)

183 There's another more pernicious aspect to the KAF phenomenon: it leads retards such as Moldylocks to think that they compete against men physically. They apparently don't realize that the movies they've been watching aren't documentaries.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:02 PM (SRKgf)

184 182 Still waiting for proof the Williams are "sisters"


Serena's pregnant.


Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (NOIQH)

Is "pics or it didn't happen" applicable here? No?
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 20, 2017 12:02 PM (Jcg9Q)

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Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:03 PM (/prE6)

185 Then there was Maureen O'Hara in that flick with John Wayne, she was hardly a wimp. He went back to Ireland and met her there.

The Quiet Man
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (v1g1+)

But then there was exhibit 1.... McClintock...

The defense.... rests...

Posted by: Don Q., at April 20, 2017 12:03 PM (NgKpN)

186 I am watching 'Outnumbered' on Fox right now and just figured it out. Fox hired Marie Harf because when she sits next to Meghan McCain, McCain looks good. (sort of)

Posted by: mallfy the politically correct at April 20, 2017 12:03 PM (b7fwp)

187 I don't mind fantasy settings where the waif elf girl can beat up orcs either, its fantasy. Its not meant to be reality.
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In traditional fantasy it is still overwhelmingly the men that go to war - male elves, male dwarves, male hobbits, etc.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 20, 2017 12:03 PM (eSx+E)

188 Still waiting for proof the Williams are "sisters"
Posted by: Rick in SK at April 20, 2017 11:54 AM (FZYNt)
__________


The tall one claims to be pregnant.. (what, I don't know xer name?)

Posted by: IP at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (A/Djk)

189 And Rosalind Russell is one of my favorite actresses-ever. So preferable to Katherine Hepburn, IMO, in looks and talent.

And BTW, if you haven't yet seen it, MPPP do find "The Trouble with Angels" with Haley Mills, I know that i keep saying it, but Russell gives a great performance as the Mother Superior, and it will make you laugh, besides being very touching at places..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (fDdVG)

190
I'm not saying it's good for society, but it doesn't suspend my disbelief that elves and dwarves could get along if they're the type of people who would leave their tight-knit societies to wander, crash dungeons and fight dragons.
Posted by: broseidon

I can see it working as a gang of pirates for a short time, that implodes brilliant ly.

As a noble team saving the world, not so much

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (AzDzi)

191 "Doesn't matter, the genre and setting allows for well-trained people with equipment to go up against monsters and supervillains. Batman is just a rich guy with toys. I don't mind fantasy settings where the waif elf girl can beat up orcs either, its fantasy. Its not meant to be reality.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 11:59 AM (39g3+) "

But they tend to segregate the villains to match them to the power level of the hero - Batman fights crazy people with stupid gimmicks like Scarecrow and The Penguin, not Darkseid and Doomsday. They joke about this in-universe a lot - there's an episode of the old Batman animated series where Clark Kent has to pretend to be Batman, and he's just mauling all of his normal rogues gallery to their complete disbelief.

When the Avengers end up facing Thanos, it won't be Black Widow or Hawkeye beating him, it'll be Thor and The Hulk.

Even in a fantasy setting you have a general structure of what makes people powerful. The female barbarian can beat on an orc with her bare hands if need be - the female wizard needs her spells.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (oZ6kz)

192 Twitter link to how the Diablo prof was unmasked:

http://tinyurl.com/lgkjh4u

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (kD8Fh)

193 Black guy with a stick has a good attack technique. In a future conflict I would suggest a few rusty ten penny nails at the end of the stick.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (LbnLf)

194 I will say the only film I saw with a believable female hard ass was Aliens.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (4ErVI)

195 I can watch that beat-down video all day.

Wonder if that antifag went home crying to his mommy then curling up into a fetal position in his parent's basement (sorry his apartment).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (jxbfJ)

196 I'm just coming to the end of one root canal in a molar. One visit to remove the infected/dead roots--three of them; one just a couple of days ago to remove the temporary stuffing meant to absorb the puss and reseal the tooth; and a couple of weeks from now having the permanent cap attached.

It hasn't been a problem at all. I was surprised by all the complaints I've heard over the decades about root canals because it wasn't a PITA, literally or figuratively, at all.

I haven't paid yet but I think it's supposed to be $638 (Canadian) although that includes a "courtesy discount" as I'm a longtime client. (Maybe 5%?)

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (nlbfN)

197 How come a lot more people don't carry sticks, baseball bats etc. like the black guy did?
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Laws are different -- in IL you can't carry a bat in your car or truck unless you also have a mitt as an excuse. Lethal weapons.
Posted by: mustbequantum




^^^^^^
This!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (vZ0KM)

198 Sure, the movie Hannah, she was some kind of freakish government experiment who'd been raised her entire life to fight to the death. I could buy that she was deadly and able to take out hordes of people.

But I won't buy the way regular girls in regular real life settings are portrayed, and I won't write that kind of book. Even in fantasy I prefer more of a grounding in reality. Little waif girl isn't going to box an orc and live. She'll use smarts, stealth, magic, ambush, traps, etc. Its how you use your abilities when you're in over your head that makes the story interesting, not so much how you crush everyone in your path without effort.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (39g3+)

199 Women are just as strong and athletic as men!

I proved it by being the first woman to win the mens' Olympic decathlon gold medal!

Posted by: Caitlin Jenner at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (riF5p)

200 As I said above, just play our church league champion pickup team."

Yep. As mentioned, the ol' college girls were pretty good, but once saw their guard (an NCAA All American) try to get a few jumpers in just at the paint. The guy defending was a solid 6'3", so by the end he'd just grin as he stuffed the ball back down to her feet...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (MINbv)

201 The Loud Woman

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (IqV8l)

202 The essential essay rant on the subject, which resulted in the author's being blacklisted out of his professional field for a decade.

The Pussification of the Western Male, by Mr. Kim DuToit.

In this, it's first authorized republication since the original site was taken down, the essay follows an update and introduction.

http://tinyurl.com/mttfjyc


Though a couple of references are now dated, the essay's points and arguments are every bit as applicable now, as then.

Enjoy!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (v5iqM)

203 I actually enjoy 'The 100,' but the narrative that savage, post-apocalyptic societies would choose to be run by hot teenage lesbians is beyond ridiculous.
Posted by: V the K at April 20, 2017 11:53 AM (O7MnT)

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I liked about the first 2/3s of season one.... but then it became preachy leftist SJW crap.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (8XRCm)

204 191 When the Avengers end up facing Thanos, it won't be Black Widow or Hawkeye beating him, it'll be Thor and The Hulk.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (oZ6kz)

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Peter Jason Quill will quip Thanos to death.

And it'll be hilarious. Intentionally so, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (/prE6)

205 Heh. Marie Harf and Meggie Mac are this > < close to having a cat fight on Outnumbered.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (PY9jH)

206 "Death Wish might be my nominee that took the deepest dive in quality from the first movie to the second.

At least the series of movies that took the deepest, quickest dive."


Death Wish 2 was made by the infamous Cannon/Golan Globus people so that explains the drop in quality and the exploitative nature (e.g., maid scene). The original is a very good movie.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (OD2ni)

207 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-N5e8tPtQ
Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 11:43 AM (kD8Fh)

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The also outed his phone number, home address, place of work, work email.

It is wrong to release personal info like this. But..... fuck him.

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We also don't KNOW it was really the professor. The evidence in the video is strong, but not conclusive.

Posted by: MrShad at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (GaHSh)

208 #196 Addendum: it was with a regular dentist in the chair and not dental surgery in a hospital with an endodontist. (Ha, ha. Pale Moon's spellchecker doesn't recognize "endodontist"!)

Posted by: andycanuck at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (nlbfN)

209 bicentennialguy: suppose Aunt Flo' s first visit happens when dad is the only one there, or suppose the girl just had a fight with mom (baby's first pms, how cute). in those cases, yeah, dad is going to have to explain things, as best he can, at least until mom can explain it better

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (5Mx95)

210 194 I will say the only film I saw with a believable female hard ass was Aliens.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (4ErVI)

And Ripley kicked ass with guns. And robo exoskeltons. Not waif-fu.

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (7HtZB)

211 Maybe I should Oregon Muse peek at current short story to make sure main character is not a KAF.

Geez that bball story does fail the beleivable test. Write smart characters and story will be better.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (c7mrF)

212 And BTW, if you haven't yet seen it, MPPP do find "The Trouble with Angels" with Haley Mills, I know that i keep saying it, but Russell gives a great performance as the Mother Superior, and it will make you laugh, besides being very touching at places..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (fDdVG)


I did get it, FS, based on your recommendation, and I did like it very much. Of course, I had known the sequel, Where Angels Go, Trouble Follows for a long time.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (X6fMO)

213 Then there was Maureen O'Hara in that flick with John Wayne, she was hardly a wimp. He went back to Ireland and met her there.

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I always think of McClintock and the mud brawls.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 20, 2017 12:07 PM (MIKMs)

214
With the rise -- assisted by themselves -- of the "transgendered" class being allowed to choose in which category they'll compete, SJW Gurrlzz Power advocates are about to receive their just desserts, and good and hard, too.

A perceptive conservative would call for abolition of all Title IX nonsense under those circumstances.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2017 12:07 PM (v1g1+)

215 Death Wish 2 was made by the infamous Cannon/Golan Globus people so that explains the drop in quality and the exploitative nature (e.g., maid scene). The original is a very good movie.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (OD2ni)

Death Wish 5 is a great bad movie. Should be Rifftrax material.

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 12:07 PM (7HtZB)

216 I know older people who have separate bedrooms because they can't stand the snoring of their male spouse with sleep apnea-and the stupid masks never fit.

Men are not alone in snoring, Fen.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (B+qrE)




My wife sounds like Darth Vader trying to start a chain saw

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:07 PM (493sH)

217 Da Brother be swing that stick like a Samurai Warrior. 2 thumbs up!

Posted by: Paladin at April 20, 2017 12:07 PM (LTquJ)

218 When some guy kicks my ass it takes two kicks.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (cOHS7)

219 "deepest dive in quality between the first and the second"

There can only be one.

Posted by: Highlander 2: The Shittening at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (5Mx95)

220 They're all delusional which, according to the standard definition, means they are suffering from a mental disorder. And yet, I do not pity them.

Posted by: steve walsh at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (TV+ih)

221 We also don't KNOW it was really the professor. The evidence in the video is strong, but not conclusive.


Posted by: MrShad at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (GaHSh)


AFAIK he hasn't issued any denial.

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (kD8Fh)

222 "I just get so tired of this."


AMEN

Posted by: Ruth at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (RR9wF)

223 Ann Meyers signed a no cut 50,000 contract with the Pacers . Needless to say she only lasted a week IIRC.

The NBA has been on the cutting edge for a long time. The Jazz drafted a women in 1977 and there are two female assistant coaches presently in the NBA.

I haven't watched an NBA game in over a decade though and it's not because of the above. They've ruined the pro game otherwise.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (khWYc)

224 How did this discussion not get Ace up? Anyone live nearby?

Posted by: Jean at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (AzDzi)

225 198 Sure, the movie Hannah, she was some kind of freakish government experiment who'd been raised her entire life to fight to the death. I could buy that she was deadly and able to take out hordes of people.

But I won't buy the way regular girls in regular real life settings are portrayed, and I won't write that kind of book. Even in fantasy I prefer more of a grounding in reality. Little waif girl isn't going to box an orc and live. She'll use smarts, stealth, magic, ambush, traps, etc. Its how you use your abilities when you're in over your head that makes the story interesting, not so much how you crush everyone in your path without effort.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (39g3+)

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Kick Ass.

Hit Girl takes out people with guns and flips and stuff. Then, when she's mano a mano with the main baddie, the bad guy kicks her ass. Hard. It hurts the viewer at how badly she's getting beaten.

Then saved by Kick Ass with a bazooka, because Mark Miller.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:09 PM (/prE6)

226
When the Avengers end up facing Thanos, it won't be Black Widow or Hawkeye beating him, it'll be Thor and The Hulk.
***
Hawkeye as a super hero is pretty terrible. In an era of firearms he is super accurate with...a bow. Make him a kick ass sniper though? That would be interesting....but lethal in a way the comic books mostly want to avoid.

But Black Widow is truly, truly terrible.

She's a great spy? I can buy that. She should be the one infiltrating the enemy via disguises and subterfuge to get information. Which is a hell of a valuable thing.

But the notion that a normal woman with a couple of stun sticks can go toe to toe with and advanced alien army or Asgardians is ludicrous.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 20, 2017 12:09 PM (eSx+E)

227 There's another more pernicious aspect to the KAF phenomenon: it leads retards such as Moldylocks to think that they compete against men physically.

Exactly, and it will lead to a crushing of someone's self understanding and worldview that a good parent and teacher should want to avoid. Don't teach your young people something that tries to defy reality; it always wins. Teach them something that allows them to excel and achieve within reality.

And that's the flaw with the KAF trope; not so much that its totally unrealistic (even though it is) but that it leads girls to think that's how to behave and is possible to become.

Old movies and books about heroic males were usually within the boundaries of human possibility (aside from stuff like Superman or Mike Hammer), but their character, their code of behavior, their ethics were taught to boys. You can't fly but you can be a good man who is strong to construct and defend rather than dominate and destroy.

What are KAFs teaching girls? That they're better than boys, not just that they can be strong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:09 PM (39g3+)

228 women are so kick ass that if a man makes a lewd comment or gropes them....they get a lottery sized payout.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 20, 2017 12:09 PM (0O7c5)

229 206
Death Wish 2 was made by the infamous Cannon/Golan Globus people so that explains the drop in quality and the exploitative nature (e.g., maid scene). The original is a very good movie.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:06 PM (OD2ni)

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I watched 1 and 2 almost back to back.

I knew there was a drop in quality, but the drop was so precipitous as to be shocking. 2 is terrible. I've seen the Best of the Worst episode with 3 and feel no need to watch it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (/prE6)

230
The Trump support giving the commie wimp what it deserves is how these Anti Fa twats need to be handled each and every time. They're only tough when the cities let them run riot. The minute someone stands up to them they are shown to be the pajama bois they really are

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (493sH)

231 This is why stuff like Agents of Shield is so unwatchable. Every girl on that show routinely destroys 6 foot plus MMA fighters.
And these shows almost never show male strength, especially a white man, in a positive light. There always have to be damaged, or "magic negroed" or wise latinaed. The only positive white males are the geeky, faggy, beta males.
No Chris Kyle or Marcus Lutrel types. Ever.

Posted by: Iblis at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (9221z)

232 How 'bout Fag Fascists or FagFas?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (0mRoj)

233 I can't be the only one who watched that whole video and said, "Hit 'em again! Hit 'em again!"

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (ZQpd0)

234 I will say the only film I saw with a believable female hard ass was Aliens.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2017 12:04 PM (4ErVI)


Here's a sleeper: Bunny Watson in Desk Set. Confident, competent, not arrogant. Knows her stuff, sticks up for her people.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (8nWyX)

235 Yes, no one has trouble with Ripley and Vasquez being badasses because they have weapons. They're not fighting xenomorphs with judo flips and spinning taekwondo kicks.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (oZ6kz)

236 It is, however, an accurate depiction of the current state of the San Diego Padres, who probably could start playing women out there and not fair much worse.
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (oZ6kz)



C'mon, the Padres are the best single A team in MLB. They're the farm club for the Dodgers and Giants.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (SRKgf)

237 It cannot be said enough. The two most successful works of literature in 20th Century were both written by American women. The left will not ever allow these books to be taught in any formal literature study. The female protagonists were KAF's after a fashion, but not in the fake-man moldylocks/Tombraider variety.

Gone With The Wind
Atlas Shrugged

Posted by: Reverse Polish Notation at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (qfDb3)

238 How did this discussion not get Ace up?

WAKE.

PLEASE USE THE WORD "WAKE."

[shudder]

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (B+qrE)

239 The character Patty Bernstein in "The Jerk" is a credible KAF.

Posted by: General Zod at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (Bdeb0)

240 Apropos of nothing-

Ocean Spray Jellied Cranberry Sauce is one of the few canned foods that i truly enjoy.


That is all.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (NyJwR)

241 228 women are so kick ass that if a man makes a lewd comment or gropes them....they get a lottery sized payout.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl...

The fuck you say...

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (FZYNt)

242 Is there any truth to the story that O'Reilly is going to MSNBC to go up against Tucker?

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (O2RFr)

243 Any else notice that the stick-wielder is using Samurai-style deliveries? He's practiced these moves.

Posted by: Lee at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (16Ik3)

244 I'm old enough to remember that one, too. I remember the feminists all cackling and crowing about a 50+ washed-up male who was making his living as a tennis hustler getting beaten by the best woman tennis player at the top of her game. Like that proved anything.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (snI+j)



Indeed, that was stupid. Mr. Riggs had been playing tennis since the *1930's*, which was (and a 40 odd year difference still is) utterly ancient for tennis.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (ujg0T)

245 >>237
It cannot be said enough. The two most successful works of literature in
20th Century were both written by American women. The left will not
ever allow these books to be taught in any formal literature study. The
female protagonists were KAF's after a fashion, but not in the fake-man
moldylocks/Tombraider variety.
Gone With The Wind
Atlas ShruggedPosted by: Reverse Polish Notation at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (qfDb3)

The only novel written in the 20th century that matters had a KAF in Molly Bloom.

Posted by: General Zod at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (Bdeb0)

246 Stick guy looks a lot like this guy speaking out against LA becoming a sanctuary city on the front end of this video.

http://tinyurl.com/lnd8m2m

Posted by: brass pair at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (4WhSY)

247 Blackshirts.

Good on Auburn for the no masks
and confiscating their single-stick weapons. I laughed at how they still
tried to hide their faces.


Posted by: mustbequantum at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (MIKMs)

Yes, looked like a pre-perpwalk to me.Pussies.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (tHwdc)

248
Here's a sleeper: Bunny Watson in Desk Set. Confident, competent, not arrogant. Knows her stuff, sticks up for her people.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2017 12:10 PM (8nWyX)


I think I know this one.When I watched it I kept seeing thought bubbles above Joan Blondell's head as K. Hepburn spoke to her. The bubbles contained the words: "oh sure you're straight"

Posted by: kallisto at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (kD8Fh)

249 194 I will say the only film I saw with a believable female hard ass was Aliens.

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thanks

Posted by: Vasquez at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (h/uSM)

250 Hit Girl takes out people with guns and flips and stuff. Then, when she's mano a mano with the main baddie, the bad guy kicks her ass. Hard. It hurts the viewer at how badly she's getting beaten.

I particularly liked that scene because the bad guy wasn't even particularly impressive a guy. He's just an adult male and she's a little girl with a foul mouth. Once she's out of bullets, he beats her like... a man beating a child. Its hard to watch in one sense because little girl, but at the same time, its what would happen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (39g3+)

251 HATE that. But they've stopped doing that in one particular case: When dad is being a loving parent to his kick-ass daughter. This is one of my new pet peeves. Men can (finally!) now achieve greatness -- but only when it's encouraging and empowering their daughters.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 11:37 AM (NOIQH)

And if the dad is sporting a beta male beard.

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 11:39 AM (7HtZB)



There is some commercial with the beta male dad shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the forefront of the lefty agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (493sH)

252
Kill Bill.

All the badasses were Y chromosome challenged.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (8XRCm)

253

Laws are different -- in IL you can't carry a bat in your car or truck unless you also have a mitt as an excuse. Lethal weapons.
Posted by: mustbequantum

Just tell them that you play in the American League and you are a designated hitter.




Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (khWYc)

254 237 It cannot be said enough. The two most successful works of literature in 20th Century were both written by American women. The left will not ever allow these books to be taught in any formal literature study. The female protagonists were KAF's after a fashion, but not in the fake-man moldylocks/Tombraider variety.

Gone With The Wind
Atlas Shrugged
Posted by: Reverse Polish Notation at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (qfDb3)

==============

"Emily Dickinson didn't write enough about transgender issues. She was a cis-normative hater."
-Very smart college student who's been ignoring all of her finals but has that gender studies course in the bag

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (/prE6)

255 In the early Seventies, there was a show on ABC called The Rookies. One of the episodes had a racially integrated street gang. My older brother was around twelve then but even he knew that the show was less realistic than West Side Story.

On the plus side, it had a young Kate Jackson in a nurse's uniform.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (vOn32)

256 He once played someone for money and used a frying pan for a racket. He won.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 20, 2017 12:00 PM (4ErVI)


Riggs also played a match against some rich guy where a number of folding chairs were set up on his side as obstacles. He won that one, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (snI+j)

257 "Weird as I just saw Death Wish II the weekend before last on one of the antenna channels. Such a sleazy piece of garbage, but really fun. They cut the rape scene and the impalement though because of course they did. That stuff in the uncut version is absolutely brutal."


I saw the uncut version last year for the first time. I had always seen it with those scenes cut. Brutal and difficult to watch. Apparently, the men had difficulty filming the maid scene since it was so brutal.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (OD2ni)

258 It is, however, an accurate depiction of the current state of the San Diego Padres, who probably could start playing women out there and not fair much worse.
Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 11:50 AM (oZ6kz)



This is gonna be the Padres' year. They're only lacking one thing to go to the World Series.

A ticket.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (SRKgf)

259 219 "deepest dive in quality between the first and the second"

There can only be one.
Posted by: Highlander 2: The Shittening at April 20, 2017 12:08 PM (5Mx95)

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yes, but pick the right one

Posted by: Caddyshack II at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (h/uSM)

260 Lost World, 1997, Velociraptor versus gymnast girl

https://youtu.be/2h8rH8zxA64?t=1m56s

Thanks to the green screen, Brian Dennehy played both rolls in the famous fight between Allosaurus and the T-Rex.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (VdICR)

261 Joss Whedon's entire Hollywood career is built on fetishizing anorexic girls inflicting violence on adult men.

That's true, but he always makes them magical or whatever to explain the ass kicking.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 20, 2017 12:14 PM (3J/LN)

262 239 The character Patty Bernstein in "The Jerk" is a credible KAF.
Posted by: General Zod at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (Bdeb0)

"I can tell just by looking at your place that you're a really filthy person. "

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 12:14 PM (7HtZB)

263 One of the episodes had a racially integrated street gang.


Diversity was their strength!

I'm sure the Bloods, the Crips, and MS-13 have diversity outreach programs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:14 PM (SRKgf)

264 women are so kick ass that if a man makes a lewd comment or gropes them....they get a lottery sized payout.....
***
Makes you wonder if there is a discussion in the Petnagon about what the Chicoms and Russians would do to captured American female soldiers if we ever went to war.

When it comes to fighting ISIS or AQ I think the advice is don't get captured, dying on the battlefield is a better idea.

But in a real war whole units get overrun...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 20, 2017 12:15 PM (eSx+E)

265 Is Ace "woke" yet?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 12:15 PM (PY9jH)

266 It reminds me of a brand of Christianity which teaches the idea that you
can be sinless and holy in this life, that you can through proper
system and piety, live a sinless life.
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Just got here. This comment leaves me extremely puzzled.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 20, 2017 12:16 PM (lwiT4)

267 Antifa is a perfect example of a bizarro, twisted Objectivist concept: they feel powerful in the mask, because it gives them a persona that lets them be more than they are in real life. They think they're Batman, when they're actually the JOker's demented henchmen.

I prefer the name Pantiefa, from Raising Arizona.

"son, you got a pantie on your head"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:16 PM (39g3+)

268 There is some commercial with the beta male dad shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the forefront of the lefty agenda
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (493sH)



Note to his wife: honey, you gotta a problem here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:16 PM (SRKgf)

269 265 Is Ace "woke" yet?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 12:15 PM (PY9jH)

================

"He's so unwoke we should drive him from America. For freedom."
-Very smart college student who's been ignoring all of her finals but has that gender studies course in the bag

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 20, 2017 12:16 PM (/prE6)

270 So now we're regularly regaled with ludicrous plot lines that have 5' 110 lb. teenaged girls beating the snot out of three 200 lb. men.

Hey, I may not be a teenaged girl, but as a 6'2" 194 lb. woman, I can beat the snot out of most 200 lb. men. It's time those pigs stopped oppressing us!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 20, 2017 12:17 PM (X88wM)

271 Note to his wife: honey, you gotta a problem here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:16 PM (SRKgf)



She's probably renting the pansy a tranny hooker for his birthday

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:17 PM (493sH)

272 Ocean Spray Jellied Cranberry Sauce is one of the few canned foods that i truly enjoy.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 20, 2017 12:11 PM (NyJwR)

Buy a round of Brie (on sale!), split it in half, smear as much cranberry sauce as it can hold in the middle, stick it back together and bake it (wrapped around the edge in foil).

It's great!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 20, 2017 12:17 PM (rF0hx)

273 One of the best things about The Walking Dead was that they avoided that whole KAF thing. Tough as shit and smart, but I can't think of one instance where Carol or Maggie took out a horde of geeks with nothing but a bo staff and judo chops. Very realistic in that respect. Even Michone, with the distinct advantage of a sword, never crossed that line.

But I stopped watching that show because I like the characters too much.

Posted by: Pug Mahon of the Clan Deplorable at April 20, 2017 12:17 PM (RwwCT)

274 Ya know where women beat up men like a black Trump supporter beats up an Antifa goon?
Gestation of babies.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 20, 2017 12:18 PM (e1mEI)

275 In the early Seventies, there was a show on ABC called The Rookies. One of the episodes had a racially integrated street gang. My older brother was around twelve then but even he knew that the show was less realistic than West Side Story.


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What about us?

Posted by: The Warriors at April 20, 2017 12:18 PM (h/uSM)

276 Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (ujg0T)

He had though just recently kicked the crap out of Margaret Court which was a prelude to the King match.

They tried to recreate another battle of the sexes but it fell flat. Jimmy Connors beat Navratilova. I think he was allowed only one serve and she got to use the doubles alley.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 12:18 PM (khWYc)

277 And these shows almost never show male strength, especially a white man, in a positive light. There always have to be damaged, or "magic negroed" or wise latinaed. The only positive white males are the geeky, faggy, beta males.

That's another aspect: the degradation of men. Look at Disney movies, the princess main character never goes for the masculine character. In fact, he's always the dunce, the brute, the bad guy, or just some side character that does her bidding. The boy she loves is almost always some wimpy singing pouf.

Or, as with later films, no guy at all. Just the heroic grrl beating everyone and triumphing to ultimate power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:18 PM (39g3+)

278 Yes. For instance, Buffy of Vampire Slayer fame was a perfectly normal teen girl until the Slayer title devolved onto her and that spell or whatever took hold. Only then did she develop the super-strength and speed we saw in her vampire battles. Even then she had to practice to stay alive. And other human female characters were shown as normal humans, not KAFs.

It's amusing--whenever the show saw "potential" Slayers, they were universally depicted as vulnerable and no more capable than normal people, with or without training. This became a plot point in the last season when they started getting targeted. The situation only changed when some magical handwaving "changed the rules" and immediately bumped ALL of them to full Slayer. Even then, most didn't fare so well...but they weren't very experienced, so that was to be expected.

So even Whedon understands the trope's limits, I guess.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 20, 2017 12:19 PM (9krrF)

279 The phrase of the day in googling this Eric Clanton jackwagon is "Weaponized Autism"...

Damn I love 4chan.

Posted by: IP at April 20, 2017 12:19 PM (A/Djk)

280 111 I'm also seeing ads online about how women exercising is somehow empowering or something.

Literally suddenly jogging is somehow some badass thing.

It's so fucking retarded.

*
*
It might be badass, but judging from the loads of fat I see at Walmart and everywhere else, precious few of 'em are pushing the Doritos and Hostess cupcakes in favor of exercising.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 20, 2017 12:19 PM (yrE3y)

281 >>A perceptive conservative would call for abolition of all Title IX nonsense under those circumstances.

Yes!
Just saw in the news some gal got a football scholarship as a placekicker.
How will she hold up to being tackled?

But also, why do you need Title IX when you now have a woman taking a man's place on a team? It's over, no longer needed, a thing from a time when we* still believed that there were differences between men and women.



*By "we" I mean, the academy

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 12:19 PM (NOIQH)

282 "Ocean Spray Jellied Cranberry Sauce is one of the few canned foods that i truly enjoy."


The best part is it slices perfectly for the turkey sandwich after Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:19 PM (OD2ni)

283 Buy a round of Brie (on sale!), split it in half, smear as much cranberry sauce as it can hold in the middle, stick it back together and bake it (wrapped around the edge in foil).

It's great!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 20, 2017 12:17 PM (rF0hx)

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WHAT THE ACTUAL FFFFFF...........


Oh .... I read that as "bris" at first...

Posted by: fixerupper at April 20, 2017 12:20 PM (8XRCm)

284 My wife and I love soccer. So does my youngest son. Last women's World Cup, late in the knockout rounds where only the better teams are still playing, I told my wife any good high school boys team would beat any of these women. She thought I was crazy. Then the Australian women's team got thumped by a young boy's team. Then the FC Dallas boys beat our own top notch women's team.

The speed and skills just are not comparable. The women's players just cannot move the ball the way the boys do. Watch how many 30 to 40 yard passes the women even attempt.

I love watching and cheering for our women's national team. Just don't tell me the game is at all similar to the men's.

Posted by: Advo at April 20, 2017 12:20 PM (Ms4Um)

285 There was a "statistical" analysis in the 90's that argued, in seriousness as far as I could tell at the time, that the rapid improvements in women's performance in track and field were such that, if they continued on the same trajectory, would result in women outperforming men in like a decade.

Now, the statistical error they made was highlighted in a rebuttal showing that in a bit longer period of time, women would be outpacing the space shuttle.

And while that gets at the folly of the application of statistics in this instance, it fails to poke a hole in the laughable baseline premise.

It is not sexist to assert that female physiology will never produce specimens which outperform male physiology at the highest levels of whatever metric one chooses to measure. It's reality. Men will also never have babies. Also reality. Why this offends the sensibilities of anyone, anywhere is utterly inexplicable.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 20, 2017 12:20 PM (yL25O)

286 264 women are so kick ass that if a man makes a lewd comment or gropes them....they get a lottery sized payout.....
***
Makes you wonder if there is a discussion in the Petnagon about what the Chicoms and Russians would do to captured American female soldiers if we ever went to war.

When it comes to fighting ISIS or AQ I think the advice is don't get captured, dying on the battlefield is a better idea.

But in a real war whole units get overrun...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 20, 2017 12:15 PM (eSx+E)


Didn't the Israelis find that how it usually goes down is all the men die surrounding the women, and the women die in the center of the circle from rape and torture?

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 20, 2017 12:20 PM (SjeCh)

287 They think they're Batman, when they're actually the JOker's demented henchmen.

***
The recent Batman series of movies should be required watching for college Freshman.

Bane is the voice of the Amerifa.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 20, 2017 12:20 PM (eSx+E)

288 >>Literally suddenly jogging is somehow some badass thing.


Literally suddenly menstruating is a brave thing that needs to be performed publicly to fight "period-shaming".

Posted by: Lizzy at April 20, 2017 12:20 PM (NOIQH)

289 Trump is a walking used condom that nobody wants. Trump lied and now cannot get out of the problems he created in South Korea and the other places that now hate this country. We wants Presdent Obama back because the world loved him and we did not have any problems when he be Presdent other then the ones created by that idiot George Bush. We still love our Presdent of Color.... Do you? You should love him !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 20, 2017 12:20 PM (WmgTn)

290 That behavior would have scared the hell out of me when I was little. But then, my dad was an alpha male.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 11:41 AM (PY9jH)

My dad had 3 daughters and two sons. Had he dressed up as a princess we'd have called the funny farm to pick him up. Of course, he had been on the beach at Iwo Jima so he had a certain seriousness about him. I joke with my wife that I change more diapers before 10AM (usually one) than my dad did in his whole life.

Posted by: DanInMN at April 20, 2017 12:21 PM (h5ffp)

291 There is some commercial with the beta male dad
shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the
forefront of the lefty agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (493sH)

Yes, this commercial presupposes that the poor girl has no girlfriends to show her how to shave her legs.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 20, 2017 12:21 PM (tHwdc)

292 It appeared to be some kind of a one-on-one grudge match between two protagonists, one of which was some guy that looked like he was supposed to be an arrogant douchebag, and his opponent was a girl.

Naturally, the girl won.


You go girl! I am the original KAF.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 20, 2017 12:21 PM (X88wM)

293 289 Trump is a walking used condom that nobody wants. Trump lied and now cannot get out of the problems he created in South Korea and the other places that now hate this country. We wants Presdent Obama back because the world loved him and we did not have any problems when he be Presdent other then the ones created by that idiot George Bush. We still love our Presdent of Color.... Do you? You should love him !!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT

oh, we do love you Mary

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 20, 2017 12:21 PM (FZYNt)

294 Looks like the "Family matter" Brady had that kept him from the WH was his wife... She isn't exactly a fan of Trump...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 20, 2017 12:22 PM (O2RFr)

295 Just saw in the news some gal got a football scholarship as a placekicker.
How will she hold up to being tackled?


Well that's just it. Like in Necessary Roughness, you can imagine a girl kicker in football, women can really put power into those kicks. But the first time she takes a tackle, she's going to wake up in traction.

I could see a short relief female pitcher in the MLB, but I seriously doubt even as a reliever she could hold up to a full 162-game season. Men barely can.

As a culture, we have to walk that perspective between understanding men and women are, actually, different, and recognizing both are human and equal under law and in the eyes of God.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:22 PM (39g3+)

296 There is some commercial with the beta male dad shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the forefront of the lefty agenda
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (493sH)


Note to his wife: honey, you gotta a problem here.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara



Wife to husband: "Dear, my therapist said it's time we both started seeing other men".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2017 12:23 PM (vZ0KM)

297 Exactly, and it will lead to a crushing of someone's self understanding and worldview that a good parent and teacher should want to avoid. Don't teach your young people something that tries to defy reality; it always wins. Teach them something that allows them to excel and achieve within reality.

And that's the flaw with the KAF trope; not so much that its totally unrealistic (even though it is) but that it leads girls to think that's how to behave and is possible to become.

What are KAFs teaching girls? That they're better than boys, not just that they can be strong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:09 PM (39g3+)



I had a pet peeve with girls playing Little League. Grrrlll power and all that. OK, fine. Girls can be competitive in Little League.

But then open Pony and Colt Leagues to them, too, and let them see that once the testosterone kicks in, for the most part, they don't have a dog's chance. But at that point, girls have their own (softball) leagues.

I think that while it's worthwhile for girls' self-esteem to let them play when they're competitive, it's also worthwhile for them to see the reality that they're no longer competitive when boys' growth spurt starts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:23 PM (SRKgf)

298 she got to use the doubles alley.
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 20, 2017 12:18 PM (khWYc)

Doubles alley? You rang?

Posted by: Hope Solo at April 20, 2017 12:23 PM (7HtZB)

299 when I was in college, I was shooting hoops at the gym with a few friends. The womens basketball team asked us to play so they could sharpen their game. We were hack basketball players and they probably thought it would be an easy win. They couldn't go inside and relied on outside shooting. They kept getting knocked to the floor inside.

After they got behind by about 5 baskets, they complained we played dirty and quit.

Posted by: jaycee at April 20, 2017 12:23 PM (QBW1m)

300 There is some commercial with the beta male dad
shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the
forefront of the lefty agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (493sH)

Yes, this commercial presupposes that the poor girl has no girlfriends to show her how to shave her legs.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess



That's because mom is making hairy porn at Berkeley.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2017 12:24 PM (vZ0KM)

301 You should see what Disney has done to Winne the Pooh. Sigh.

http://www.just-pooh.com/assets/images/news/PoohandFriends.jpg

Posted by: MMW at April 20, 2017 12:24 PM (kfV3n)

302 I'm also seeing ads online about how women exercising is somehow empowering or something.
***
I think I'm going to have to support this trend. Encouraging people to exercise is a good thing overall, [looks around on the city streets] and especially for the fairer sex.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 20, 2017 12:24 PM (eSx+E)

303 175---As I said above, just play our church league champion pickup team. I'd bet a paycheck they couldn't even beat them.
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 20, 2017 12:01 PM (Jcg9Q)
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I'll bet my paycheck on the WNBA chicks---well, semi-chicks--- in that one, unless your church-league champs are so unusual as to be bizarre.

These women are extremely fit, talented, skilled, and experienced. Let's not pretend otherwise.
They're also much, much taller than the average woman. You wouldn't have the size advantage that you think.
And they have pro coaches and a deep bench.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 20, 2017 12:24 PM (0jtPF)

304 291 There is some commercial with the beta male dad
shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the
forefront of the lefty agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 20, 2017 12:12 PM (493sH)

Yes, this commercial presupposes that the poor girl has no girlfriends to show her how to shave her legs.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 20, 2017 12:21 PM (tHwdc)

Since her mom abandoned her and her dad for Paolo, she has trouble forming relationships with other females.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 20, 2017 12:24 PM (0mRoj)

305 "There is some commercial with the beta male dad
shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the forefront of the lefty agenda"


SMH. Dustin Hoffman shaving his legs in Tootsie was funny because it was so preposterous. (funny movie BTW with great cast).

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:24 PM (OD2ni)

306 I've often said, and I will continue to predict, that if a woman is going to make it in the majors, it'll be a knuckleball pitcher. That's the only way you can succeed without a fastball that's at least mid-80's, if not low 90's. Also helps with the wear and tear issue.

It already happened in indie ball - the "Knuckle Princess," Eri Yoshida, played against men. But she wasn't very good.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at April 20, 2017 12:25 PM (oZ6kz)

307 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE BLACK STICKMAN KEPT COMING AND THE WHITE ANTIF PEOPLE JUST PISSED THEMSELVES AND RAN AWAY.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 20, 2017 12:25 PM (LbnLf)

308 60
>>And if the dad is sporting a beta male beard.

The ones
that really annoy are the ones where dad is behaving like a mom: wearing
a princess crown and have painted nails, that sort of thing. No. Dad's
have their own role, their own style of parenting; they don't need to be
moms to be a good parent.


Posted by: Lizzy

I rather enjoyed dressing up and having a tea party with my Grand Nieces...

Posted by: Great Uncle Si, the Fairy at April 20, 2017 12:25 PM (XcOXh)

309 If are grate Senitor Berrnie Sanders was Presdent the world would love us and we wood not has any problems like we do now. We calls on the Country to impeach Trump now and makes Burnie Sanders are new Presdent .....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 20, 2017 12:25 PM (WmgTn)

310 I've posted this before. There are at least 30 high school boys basketball teams in NYC alone that can beat the vaunted UConn Lady Huskies. Even my little alma mater -- so let's make that 60

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (SIY7D)

311 Looks like the "Family matter" Brady had that kept him from the WH was his wife... She isn't exactly a fan of Trump...
Posted by: It's Me donna



Talk about deflated balls.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (vZ0KM)

312 NOOD

ace is here

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (FZYNt)

313 SMH. Dustin Hoffman shaving his legs in Tootsie was funny because it was so preposterous. (funny movie BTW with great cast).
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:24 PM (OD2ni)

I think Bill Murray stole the show in that movie. "This is one nutty hospital."

Posted by: josephistan at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (7HtZB)

314 40 Speaking of KAF, what ever happened to the one-on-one basketball game between KAF Sarah Palin and arrogant douchebag Barack Obama?
Posted by: OCBill at April 20, 2017 11:38 AM (df+Zi)


I would watch that on pay-per-view. With lots of popcorn.

Posted by: rickl at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (xjiRE)

315 Not a fan of the KAF, after the first few iterations. It's tiresome to suspend disbelief. It's like watching the A-Team over and over and expecting something different.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (GX63o)

316 My dad never showed me how to shave my legs or pits, so I don't.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (cOHS7)

317 Yep. KAF has turned me off of not just movies and TV shows, but some books too.

Look, there are some honking huge women who are strong. They exist. In fairly small numbers. And they still can't take a hit.

I'll keep this short because my own Combatives background isn't enough to brag about anyway. But mass matters. Size, speed, strength.

Tiny, feminine girls cannot beat even average guys in a fight.

Martial arts helps but only to a point. An average female martial artist can defeat a below-average male. It takes an exceptional female martial artist to defeat a bog-normal male. And that's as far as the bell curve bends.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (xJa6I)

318 So, I watched the Real Housewives of NYC last night for shits and giggles (don't judge me).

Anyhow, one of the "wives" (who isn't actually married) is a "Princess" Radziwill who was having a meltdown three nights before the election. She got into an argument with another wife who comes across as a Trump supporter and called Hillary a criminal.

This Radziwill beotch screeched that she was better "informed" because she had worked for ABC News for 12 years, and Trump was a liar, and the FBI didn't have anything on Hillary.

Now I can't wait for next week when she hosts an election night party to celebrate Hillary's "landslide victory."

It's a palate-cleanser of sorts.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (PY9jH)

319 282 "Ocean Spray Jellied Cranberry Sauce is one of the few canned foods that i truly enjoy."


The best part is it slices perfectly for the turkey sandwich after Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 20, 2017 12:19 PM (OD2ni)

Yep! Thanksgiving tradition at Casa joncelli requires pulling the cranberry sauce out of the can in such a way that it retains the shape of the can. Serve by slicing.

Posted by: joncelli, Gobsmacked Rage Monkey and Crossbowman at April 20, 2017 12:26 PM (RD7QR)

320 Makes you wonder if there is a discussion in the Petnagon about what the Chicoms and Russians would do to captured American female soldiers if we ever went to war.

I cannot remember the name of the movie but I watched one years ago where this came up. The setting was special forces training, and this exceptionally capable woman managed to make it onto the squad. The training took place on an island, and they had it all down: it was utterly brutal. They'd set up a scenario where the team was supposed to take out a target, but the actual events were that they'd get captured and then spend weeks being starved, beaten, psychologically tortured, and even some physical torture.

The purpose was to prepare the men for actual capture, and how to deal with it and escape. But here was this woman in the team, how to deal with that? The trainer decided the only way was to have her be raped, because that was essentially what the men were dealing with: being powerless and helpless and physically damaged.

It was hard to watch and eventually she managed to get free (because again, different rules, and they weren't sure how to deal with her), and get the guys out and they took out the trainer.

But I thought it was actually really smart writing and a great concept.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:27 PM (39g3+)

321 Dammit. Willowed again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 20, 2017 12:27 PM (PY9jH)

322 Looks like the "Family matter" Brady had that kept him from the WH was his wife... She isn't exactly a fan of Trump...

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Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 20, 2017 12:27 PM (h/uSM)

323 I love watching and cheering for our women's national team. Just don't tell me the game is at all similar to the men's.
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Watched pro women's basketball -- once. It was sooooo slow that even I could follow it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 20, 2017 12:27 PM (MIKMs)

324 Yes, this commercial presupposes that the poor girl has no girlfriends to show her how to shave her legs.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 20, 2017 12:21 PM (tHwdc)


I've never shaved my legs (or anyone else's), but... do you really need someone to show you how?

Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2017 12:28 PM (8nWyX)

325 " if a woman is going to make it in the majors, it'll be a knuckleball pitcher."

Has there ever been a man who made his way into the majors as a knuckleballer?

I thought you had to be somewhat established first and then go to the knuckleball to try to stay in the Show

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2017 12:28 PM (SIY7D)

326 The SWJ: "Reality, I defy your existence!"
Reality: "Your defiance does not matter to me beyond: closed or open casket?"

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Join the Conspiracy of the Month Club at the Outrage Outlet! Flavored Tinfoil in May! at April 20, 2017 12:28 PM (hLRSq)

327 ace is woke.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 20, 2017 12:28 PM (snI+j)

328 My favorite part about the Hunger Games is she really just made everything worse.

It's like how rooting for the Rebellion in Star Wars is dumb.
What's next, what's your plan, you think a functional government will spring forth fully formed?

You just created anarchy in a world where all anyone knows is order via brute force--not democracy or republicanism.

And, her sister ended up dead anyway.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 20, 2017 12:29 PM (ZQpd0)

329 Yep! Thanksgiving tradition at Casa joncelli requires pulling the cranberry sauce out of the can in such a way that it retains the shape of the can. Serve by slicing.



Cut both ends of the can and push out.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2017 12:29 PM (vZ0KM)

330 About the commercial where the dad shows his daughter how to shave her legs - he's not even doing it right! You shave up your leg - against the direction of the hair growth - not down your leg. Urggh! I hate that commercial for so very many reasons.

Posted by: biancaneve at April 20, 2017 12:30 PM (A/iod)

331 There is some commercial with the beta male dad shaving his legs with his daughter. Ad agencies seem to be at the forefront of the lefty agenda
Posted by: TheQuietMan


Bottom line. If you want to shave your legs with your daughter, you need to transform yourself from beta male to alpha female.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 20, 2017 12:30 PM (X88wM)

332 Look, there are some honking huge women who are strong. They exist. In fairly small numbers. And they still can't take a hit.

Its the Rhonda Roussey effect. She can really dish it out, but she cannot take a hit. Very few people actually can, really.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:31 PM (39g3+)

333 Ace up

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 20, 2017 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

334 Our neighbors' high school age daughters were much into softball, but suddenly lost all interest, according to their mom.

Hmmm. What are the odds it was lesbian shit that changed their minds? They're both a bit boy-crazy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:32 PM (SRKgf)

335 I shaved my legs once for the state finals in the 50 and 100 freestyle. Nobody taught me and I have hairy legs. It was an ordeal but I did have a slightly faster time. Don't know if it was from lack of leg hair resistance or not. It did feel funny in the pool.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 20, 2017 12:33 PM (cOHS7)

336 And on the next breath they whine about the dearth of women in STEM subjects. So what became of the out-thinking then, huh?
=========
They actually kinda did.

You gonna take up a career in STEM--where they expect results?

Or get a cushy job in HR--where results are someone else's problem?

With the pay being roughly equal. And--due to the diversity laws--women are overwhelmingly favored to fill those HR positions.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 20, 2017 12:33 PM (ZQpd0)

337 I've never shaved my legs (or anyone else's), but... do you really need someone to show you how?
Posted by: hogmartin at April 20, 2017 12:28 PM (8nWyX)



It takes years of patient detailed technical training to master such an arcane practice.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:33 PM (SRKgf)

338 On the plus side, it had a young Kate Jackson in a nurse's uniform.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at April 20, 2017 12:13 PM (vOn32)

Yes. I had the biggest crush on Kate Jackson when I was a kid. She was the Mary Ann to Farah Fawcett's Ginger.

Posted by: troyriser at April 20, 2017 12:34 PM (Fw5cQ)

339 Post Structuralism says that hdlf;v eftgobvweg,bopbmwegrmb[grb'ds,b'df;,b';sdb'b

Posted by: Lena Dunham at April 20, 2017 12:34 PM (nWQ3b)

340 I shaved my legs once for the state finals in the 50 and 100 freestyle. Nobody taught me and I have hairy legs. It was an ordeal but I did have a slightly faster time. Don't know if it was from lack of leg hair resistance or not. It did feel funny in the pool.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 20, 2017 12:33 PM (cOHS7)



The trainer on our football team used to shave my ankles before taping them after I'd injured first one, and then the other.

Very strange feeling. My socks used to fall down afterwards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 20, 2017 12:35 PM (SRKgf)

341 I thought everyone knew at this point that Bobby Riggs threw it for gambling debts.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at April 20, 2017 12:37 PM (t6eHQ)

342 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2017 12:05 PM (39g3+)

I think that's true of your characters in general though. They seem to rely on experience and cunning rather than stand-and-fight. Your werewolf book was a departure because it followed so *many* characters so you couldn't showcase the abilities of any given one (in many ways I felt the story was more about the setting than the characters).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 20, 2017 12:37 PM (sEDyY)

343 Of course it was. Don't you know that everything was really, really bad in the olden days? There wasn't even color back then - just black and white!
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 11:48 AM (MINbv)


---------------

It's true. I remember riding my bike one day when color started appearing. At first it was red, and then slowly slowly the green began to appear. I was so shocked I rode off into a ditch. That's when I noticed the stars for the first time.

A wild experience I tell you.

Posted by: Soona at April 20, 2017 12:38 PM (Fmupd)

344 You seriously have only now noticed how anti-male Disney is? Anti-male and, by extension, anti-family (as father is the head of said family).
Go re-watch Mary Poppins, and see what a grasping, rapacious, money-loving, pigeon-lady-hating old rascal Pater is. Or watch Steve Martin in the charming Disney modernization of "Cheaper By The Dozen" and see Dad's family fall to pieces under his leadership in about three weeks time.
Every Disney father is either sociopathically ambitious and eager to sacrifice his children for profits or an utter stumble-bumble dumbass incompetent mouth-breather who is kept alive solely through the love of his wife and kids.

Posted by: jbspry at April 20, 2017 12:38 PM (IhKmM)

345 We were having a push-up challenge where I work. Two of the people are on their late 20's. One is a young man, overweight, but not TOO overweight, not in prime shape but on the soft side of normal. The other a young woman who works out, yoga, eats health food, all that crap. The first day, doughboy kicked slendergirl's a$$. Surprise, surprise. (Uh, I'm being sarcastic there -- it was no surprise. But I think it illustrates the degree to which a young man can be soft and pudgy, and still much stronger than a young woman the same age, in great shape.)

Posted by: Lee at April 20, 2017 12:39 PM (vi3x6)

346 Bobby Riggs was an atypical tennis player for his time, a street kid and a hustler. No surprise if he was playing games with gamblers, and threw the match against King. He first thrashed #1 ranked Margaret Court, which set up the big money against BJK where he lost. Classic hustle.

Around this time, Riggs was on an episode of the Odd Couple where he hustles Felix and Oscar in ping pong. He beats them both at the same time, upping the ante by using more outrageous paddles, IRRC a frying pan and then a fish.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 20, 2017 12:43 PM (SIY7D)

347 Our neighbors' high school age daughters were much into softball, but suddenly lost all interest, according to their mom.

Hmmm. What are the odds it was lesbian shit that changed their minds? They're both a bit boy-crazy.

----

Recently in centex, a couple of HS had scandals with coach/player relationships. In one case, the player was the predator and was hitting on other players to the point where the parents pulled them from playing.

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 20, 2017 12:47 PM (suO/a)

348 There's a reason that in boxing and wrestling, you can only compete against your weight class

Posted by: artemis at April 20, 2017 12:48 PM (AwPyG)

349 I dated a college basketball scholarship winner. She could beat my ass at basketball (I sucked anyway-football was my sport) and beat my friends.

She was surprised though when I could easily beat her arm wrestling.

She eventually dropped out of the program because of the time demands/stress with no pro future and as a straight woman, the loud lesbian sex she had to listen to regularly in the female athlete dorm. No, not making that up.

Posted by: Keith at April 20, 2017 12:53 PM (USf3s)

350 Big cardboard sign in the window of some storefront selling wimmen's sundries in Grand Central Terminal: "A Woman's Place Is In The Resistance."

Which reminds me when i first concluded that Dan Rather, beyond being a medacious douchenozzle was actually pathologic: when he used to sign off his show by saying "Courage." Coincidink that within a month he had his "What's the frequency Kenneth?" beatdown? I think not. We truly live amidst an epidemic of narcisstic/grandiose mental illness.


Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 20, 2017 12:54 PM (QtQaN)

351 My favorite comment to the TV during these shows: You Go Girrrrrl.

Posted by: LurkerJIm at April 20, 2017 01:00 PM (oxV05)

352 I dated a girl when I was 16 who was #4 in the COUNTRY in girls 18 and under tennis. I beat her every single time we played if I started hitting the ball hard like I did playing other boys. She couldn't handle the pace of a thoroughly mediocre male tennis player.

Posted by: mx4 at April 20, 2017 01:02 PM (4sHDf)

353 About 25 years ago I had to coach Freshman boys basketball. We were bottom of the totem pole for gym space and often ended up having to come back up and practice late in the evenings.

The varsity girls coach asked me if we'd scrimmage against her girls in order to give them an opportunity to adjust to playing a faster paced more physical game than what they were used to. I agreed to do so because it allowed us some gym time right after school.

We did it for about three sessions and then I told her we were through. Her 17-18 year old girls couldn't stop a fast break to save their lives. I got tired of us scoring undefended layups on them. I think she was tired of playing against 15 year old boys who were sporting wood.

Posted by: Pendejo at April 20, 2017 01:08 PM (yKJ+U)

354 Actually, the USWNT deserves a lot of credit for this. They routinely prepare by playing boys teams. They do this BECAUSE of the advantages the boys have. After all, the USWNT is sort of by definition the very best women's team. Preparing by playing a women's college team or something would be pretty useless.

Most women's teams won't do this because they don't want to see headlines like this one. But the USWNT is less insecure and more self-aware than most. They KNOW the boys have physical advantages; that's why they play them.

Posted by: RichieC at April 20, 2017 01:09 PM (N2ODI)

355 In many events across many states high school boys exceed women's track and field WORLD RECORDS.

Posted by: Bobbymike at April 20, 2017 01:15 PM (YDJbC)

356 I often roll my eyes and LMAO at all these KAFs. Of course, when most of the male actors are all between 5'2" and 5'6" tall, and 150lbs soaking wet, so I suppose it is easy for some people to suspend belief. {I wonder how many of these fellows are sick of playing wimps? }


Posted by: Locke Common at April 20, 2017 01:26 PM (OvHr4)

357 These women are extremely fit"

Hmm. Starting guard for the DC squad at one point was 5'9" and 180lbs.

And I'll go out on a short limb and guess that each spec was slightly tweaked...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 20, 2017 01:31 PM (MINbv)

358 354 Actually, the USWNT deserves a lot of credit for this. They routinely prepare by playing boys teams. They do this BECAUSE of the advantages the boys have. After all, the USWNT is sort of by definition the very best women's team. Preparing by playing a women's college team or something would be pretty useless.

Most women's teams won't do this because they don't want to see headlines like this one. But the USWNT is less insecure and more self-aware than most. They KNOW the boys have physical advantages; that's why they play them.
Posted by: RichieC at April 20, 2017 01:09 PM (N2ODI)
Yeah, you gotta respect it. If they ever get to the point where they can beat a good varsity high school team, they could probably handle their real compitition. Makes me wonder if matches like this are the secret to their success.

Posted by: Jackal at April 20, 2017 01:32 PM (kutV+)

359 Regarding men and women's menstruation-
I was newly divorced (1 year) and my ex had immediately left town with her boyfriend. I had all my daughters (3). Two had just started college and I was home with my 9th grader. I was with her, outside the bathroom, as she and I talked our way through the first period. Not as bad as you imagine, as she knew I was always there for her.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or great value tibet at April 20, 2017 01:33 PM (U4PcL)

360 Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret

Posted by: RichieC at April 20, 2017 01:33 PM (N2ODI)

361 KAF vs male. Pugil sticks. Probably been shown here before.

http://tinyurl.com/lumx2e6

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at April 20, 2017 01:34 PM (di1hb)

362 I'm sick of it. I want real men back. Hell, I want real women back, too.

Posted by: Gracie at April 20, 2017 01:38 PM (yPxXc)

363 When I went to the Naval Academy ('05) my company's informal intramural team played our school's varsity girl's soccer team for a scrimmage. We destroyed them something like 5-0. For icing on the cake, I, a probably-less-than-mediocre midfielder, scored one of my very few goals that season from 30 yards out.

Posted by: Chris M at April 20, 2017 01:40 PM (FGZtn)

364 A similar trope is the "Kids Save the World!" story.

Kids discover a plot by the villain. Kids try to alert parents but parents are too busy and/or too stupid and besides you're just kids! Kids defeat adult villain. Lesson: Kids are smarter than adults, not to mention more brave and more resourceful.

Posted by: Brewdog at April 20, 2017 01:44 PM (F+bI6)

365 Back in college, my buddy's girlfriend starts yammering about how girls are better athletes than boys. My buddy offers to race her -- she can run normally and he will run backward. She scoffs at the notion that he could beat her running backward. I try to explain to her that he played cornerback in high school, so of course he can outrun you backward or forward. She gives me a blank look, shakes her head, tells me it's impossible that he could beat her running backward.

They run the race. It was never close. She stormed off. Never saw her again.

Posted by: Brewdog at April 20, 2017 01:46 PM (F+bI6)

366 Look at Designated Survivor. All the chicks play the action roles (FBI Investigator, White House Chief of Staff) while the balance to the cast are, for the most, part Beta males.

Posted by: Oliver Heaviside at April 20, 2017 01:47 PM (1hy/q)

367
366 Look at Designated Survivor. All the chicks play the action roles (FBI Investigator, White House Chief of Staff) while the balance to the cast are, for the most, part Beta males.

I love the IDEA of DS but then they started getting annoyingly political (all liberals have is politics so they can't help but focus everything on it) fast so I barely made it through 1.5 episodes.

Posted by: Chris M at April 20, 2017 01:50 PM (FGZtn)

368 The USWNT coaches would never schedule a warmup game against an opponent the players would just slouch through. That defeats the whole purpose of the match.

Women's professional or national-level teams routinely play male HS or small-college teams. They win plenty of them, but the fact that the coaches schedule those matches tells you what the coaches think.

Posted by: Yobbo at April 20, 2017 02:06 PM (zhOfu)

369 Our junior high baseball team played a game of softball with the high school grrrls team. We were limited to 6 runs when the first inning looked like it would never end. It was a double digit to zero blowout.

Posted by: Spidly at April 20, 2017 02:22 PM (zgL6Y)

370 John Wayne was a fag!

Posted by: Repo Man at April 20, 2017 02:33 PM (oEbW3)

371 It's really not their fault, the TV has told them they can beat up big ugly, hairy guys, in high heels no less. This is why you're seeing videos of girls hitting first and then getting knocked the fuck out. It's entitlement meets expectations of badassery, and generally it doesn't go well for the ladies.

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 20, 2017 03:33 PM (50gG9)

372 Kids discover a plot by the villain. Kids try to
alert parents but parents are too busy and/or too stupid and besides
you're just kids! Kids defeat adult villain. Lesson: Kids are smarter
than adults, not to mention more brave and more resourceful.

Posted by: Brewdog at April 20, 2017 01:44 PM (F+bI6)
Reminds me of the greatest evil quote I ever heard, and I forget where I heard it, but it goes something like this:"If so many children are exceptional then where do all the average adults come from."

Posted by: DFCtomm at April 20, 2017 03:37 PM (50gG9)

373 Female characters in movies have to be flawless these days. And flawless characters are boring characters.

Posted by: DemosthenesGame at April 20, 2017 03:55 PM (thXAK)

374 My father never dressed as a fairy princess. Whenever he was lying on the floor watching TV, we'd climb onto his back and eventually he'd pretend he was either a horse (in which case we usually got bucked off) or a bear (which sometimes sent us running to Mom because he could do a good bear growl and stare at us with his teeth showing). Good times.

I have brothers, no sisters, so I never thought women were physically stronger than men. However, my mom was a farm girl, so she and her sister were expected to do the same chores as the boys, even if it took them longer (like loading a hay wagon). I stacked firewood until my youngest brother got big enough to take over, and my dad taught me how to change a tire by hand, but it was just basic stuff like that.

The funny thing is that in college, a couple of guys commented about how strong I was because I carried cameras and other equipment for several blocks. Thirty pounds at most, so not a huge deal. However, one of my boyfriend's buddies challenged me to arm-wrestling at a party. I just laughed, but he kept at me until I did, and then the %*$ hurt me. I mean he really slammed my arm against the table, then acted like he won some huge contest.

That was kind of my whole introduction to the idea that "strong" girls were supposed to be able to take on men. It truly is stupid, and it's just as bad a misconception for boys as it is for girls. I work with teenagers and sometimes the boys don't realize that they can actually hurt me or their classmates when they're rough-housing with their friends on the sidewalks or in the building entrances. They have no concept that in just a couple months they've gotten a lot bigger and stronger.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 20, 2017 04:04 PM (fxCK2)

375 I know this is so unPC that it's probably not shown anywhere anymore, but "Father Goose" is a great movie about the sexes. Cary Grant is a reluctant radio operator in WWII who ends up having to rescue a French teacher and her pupils when their island is overrun by the Japanese.

It has several funny scenes, but my favorite is when she slaps him and he slaps her back... and she slaps him... and he slaps her back... And it cuts away to a scene of the radio receiver hearing that they want a minister to perform their wedding ceremony over the radio.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 20, 2017 04:14 PM (fxCK2)

376 See, it's bad ass bitches, not kick ass females. That's the problem. Sigh. Quentin Tarantino did it right.

Posted by: Alis at April 20, 2017 07:37 PM (eLvFT)

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