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Five-State Manhunt and $50,000 Reward for Man Who Posted FaceBook Video of Him Murdering an Elderly Man, Apparently at Random

He did offer some kind of explanation, but it makes no sense to anyone who is sane.

Joy Lane, who dated Stephens for several years, said in a statement that Stephens is "a nice guy ... he is generous with everyone he knows. He was kind and loving to me and my children. This is a very difficult time for me and my family."

In the video he uploaded to Facebook, Stephens mentions Lane in the moments before the shooting, saying to the victim, "She's the reason why all this about to happen to you."

Who the hell knows what that could possibly mean. Joy Lane says she's "not sure" why the killer would have mentioned her; the perp's mother said that Stephens had mentioned being "angry" with his girlfriend shortly before the killing.

It took FaceBook three hours to take the murder video down, though I'm not sure I can fault them for that. Moderation is hard! Seriously, I can't imagine what it's like moderating millions and millions of accounts.

By the way, last week's crazed shooter was apprehended on Friday, avoiding the Easter shooting that law enforcement had feared.


Posted by: Ace at 08:10 PM




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1 Moderation is hard! Seriously, I can't imagine what it's like moderating millions and millions of accounts.

It's easier if your a multi-billion-dollar company staffed 24/7, with constantly-monitered mailboxes that are being flooded with "OMG What the FUCK are you people sending out over the Internet???" messages.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at April 17, 2017 08:15 PM (s5o+q)

2 Wow, either the commenting system is down or it's just you and me today, Ace.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 17, 2017 08:15 PM (qazQh)

3 So what have the investigating and figuring out produced, besides ratings and attorney fees?

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 17, 2017 08:15 PM (HCnEB)

4 That wasn't me just then. It was Jesse.

Posted by: filbert at April 17, 2017 08:16 PM (s5o+q)

5 How many men have screwed up their lives over pussy?



Undefeated and untied.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:16 PM (Lat75)

6 But how can this be tied to Trump?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:16 PM (8ZskC)

7 Sorry, Dr. Phil.

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 17, 2017 08:17 PM (HCnEB)

8 Somehow if it was video put up by a conservative that shows Trump in a positive light I have a feeling it would be pulled in minutes.

Posted by: StrawMan at April 17, 2017 08:17 PM (lidp8)

9 Trump becomes President.

this guy goes on a killing spree.

Connect the dots!

Posted by: mallfly Olbermann at April 17, 2017 08:17 PM (b7fwp)

10 6 But how can this be tied to Trump?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:16 PM (8ZskC)

Easy. This is a result of the climate of violence created by his hateful rhetoric directed at people of color.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2017 08:18 PM (0mRoj)

11 Free love isn't free at all. But it's fine for blues lyrics.

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 17, 2017 08:18 PM (HCnEB)

12 Half-price cheeseburgers at Sonic, tomorrow only.

Possibly related to the thread topic. Who knows?

Posted by: filbert at April 17, 2017 08:18 PM (s5o+q)

13 This dude needs a toe tag as soon as possible.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 17, 2017 08:19 PM (0tfLf)

14 Moderation is hard! Seriously, I can't imagine what it's like moderating millions and millions of accounts.
Posted by: Ace

Maybe if they spent less time monitoring European accounts for anti-rapefugee sentiments...

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2017 08:19 PM (fYbFJ)

15 Angry at his girlfriend? That would be a satisfactory explanation if the person he killed was his girlfriend, not some random old man on the street.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2017 08:19 PM (0mRoj)

16 Carrying over from the prior thread, while I detest Bettman for relatively trivial sports-related reasons, no way I'd compare him at all with Bathhouse Barry.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 08:20 PM (GsAUU)

17 Trump becomes President

Riots at Milo's Berkeley appearance.

Connect the dots!

Posted by: mallfly Olbermann at April 17, 2017 08:20 PM (b7fwp)

18 Law Enforcement has a dead body and a murder scene, right? This is not another fake news item on fakebook, right?

Have to ask, there has been so much fake news it is difficult to keep track of what is real and what is photoshop.

Posted by: Kraig the Climber at April 17, 2017 08:20 PM (7CcnX)

19 12 Half-price cheeseburgers at Sonic, tomorrow only.

Possibly related to the thread topic. Who knows?
Posted by: filbert at April 17, 2017 08:18 PM (s5o+q)

Even killers need to eat, I assume.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 17, 2017 08:20 PM (0mRoj)

20 Well, at least the manhunt has his picture, unlike local news that says police are looking for a suspect, 6'1" in a hoodie.




So, me must be Japanese?



Call if you see a 6'1" man in a hoodie.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:20 PM (pvwwD)

21 Chastity, purity and continence don't mix with a blues riff.

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 17, 2017 08:20 PM (HCnEB)

22 Wasn't Baraka in Ireland recently?

Going to talk about his Irish ancestors in his next book, "Oh Yreah, The White Ones"?

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 08:20 PM (GsAUU)

23 I tried Smashburger for the very first time this past weekend.

Wow, fantastic burgers. I had to have another one immediately after finishing the first.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 17, 2017 08:21 PM (qazQh)

24 bat shit crazy has got to crazy...

i blame institutional racism and George W. Bush.

and global warming too, plus the NRA selling fully automatic weapons outside every school and playground in the country, for less than the price of a tofuburger.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 17, 2017 08:21 PM (ijXQr)

25 Since the old man was black, and the killer was black, I predict that black lives won't matter much in this instance.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:21 PM (8ZskC)

26 And I see Gov. Walker had the Easter Egg Hunt since he was caught before Sat.

Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2017 08:21 PM (uKRys)

27 How much longer until Running Man becomes reality?

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (JnYpG)

28 Yeah, sorry, I don't care who you are, if you watched that video, you have to reach the conclusion the shooter has forfeited his right to live.

Death penalty. As long as it takes to try him, fast track his appeals, and put him in an unmarked grave, within weeks.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (Pz4pT)

29 You can't help but like a guy who has a big broad smile in his booking photo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (8ZskC)

30 Carrying over from the prior thread, while I detest Bettman for relatively trivial sports-related reasons, no way I'd compare him at all with Bathhouse Barry.

I read Bettman as "Batman."

I wouldn't compare Batman to Barry either.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (bZ7mE)

31 Russians.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (r58H0)

32 Trump becomes President.

no one watches my RESIST podcasts.

Connect the dots!

Posted by: mallfly Olbermann at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (b7fwp)

33 Bitches, man.

Bitches...

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 08:23 PM (hMW5D)

34 funny how Fakebook can flag "fake news" instantly, and ban a user for "hate speech" in minutes, but a live murder takes hours to act on...

must be a priorities thing

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 17, 2017 08:23 PM (ijXQr)

35 $50,000. They must want him bad.

Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2017 08:23 PM (eeTCA)

36 Taxpayer relief shot for this bastard.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 08:23 PM (hUAfE)

37 Death penalty. As long as it takes to try him, fast track his appeals, and put him in an unmarked grave, within weeks.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (Pz4pT)


I get the feeling it won't come to that.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 17, 2017 08:24 PM (8nWyX)

38 Joy Lane, who dated Stephens for several years, said in a statement that Stephens is "a nice guy ... he is generous with everyone he knows. He was kind and loving to me and my children.

But he's a homicidal maniac now.

Why would she even say this shit? She could have, at least, used the correct tense - past ... way past.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2017 08:24 PM (zc3Db)

39 Ottawa can't stay out of the penalty box.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 08:24 PM (GsAUU)

40 Trump becomes President.

I'm reduced to videoblogging with a used GoPro in my damp basement and pissing myself in my dead mama's panties.

Connect the dots!

Posted by: you know who at April 17, 2017 08:24 PM (qazQh)

41 The pol board on 4chan is taking a break from trolling Shia
Labeouf; its denizens are now using their Internet powers for another good and trying to track this POS down.

https://twitter.com/polNewsNet/status/854111150719606784

Posted by: Thrawn at April 17, 2017 08:24 PM (E/ibL)

42 >>Stephens is "a nice guy ... he is generous with everyone he knows. He was kind and loving to me and my children.



Those are the ones you have to keep your eye on.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 08:24 PM (hMW5D)

43 Since the old man was black, and the killer was black, I predict that black lives won't matter much in this instance.
---
unless, of course, the cops smoke him in the course of arresting him.

then all bets are off.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 17, 2017 08:25 PM (ijXQr)

44 >>>5 How many men have screwed up their lives over pussy?

Hairy pussy is the real problem.
Proof is in the last thread, courtesy of zombie.

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2017 08:25 PM (JnYpG)

45 12 Half-price cheeseburgers at Sonic, tomorrow only.

Possibly related to the thread topic. Who knows?
Posted by: filbert at April 17, 2017 08:18 PM (s5o+q)


In honor of the anniversary of the Doolittle raid?

Seriously, thanks for the reminder. There's a Sonic near where I work and I get lunch there occasionally.

Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2017 08:25 PM (sdi6R)

46 Someone check the local medical school or at very least the Physics or Science Department at the nearest college.

He is probably in the study hall catching up on the weekend's assignment.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2017 08:25 PM (5VlCp)

47 And now Boston has tied it up.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 08:25 PM (GsAUU)

48 >>Ottawa can't stay out of the penalty box.


The Leafs v Caps game has been pretty good so far...

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 08:25 PM (hMW5D)

49 In a statement, a Facebook spokesperson called the incident a "horrific crime" and said that the company does "not allow this kind of content on Facebook."


Another "horrific crime" is reichwing fake news and facebook doesn't allow it either.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:26 PM (8ZskC)

50 The really bad thing about this shit?



The fucker went to the range and practiced AND bragged about going out to kill people. Then posted a video about it.



This guy is a sick puppy. Let's hope they shot him while he is "trying to escape".

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:26 PM (pvwwD)

51 It took FaceBook three hours to take the murder video down, though I'm not sure I can fault them for that. Moderation is hard! Seriously, I can't imagine what it's like moderating millions and millions of accounts.

I guess FarceBook's AI monitors aren't quite up to snuff. Big surprise, there.

But they seem to have little problem taking down anything conservative or that doesn't write glowing reviews about the beauty of islam ...

If this guy had made a video that had said something bad about Barky it would have been taken down in seconds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2017 08:27 PM (zc3Db)

52 35 $50,000. They must want him bad.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2017 08:23 PM (eeTCA)

--Well, this is Cleveland we're talking about.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)

53 Dead or alive sounds about right. +10% if you bring him in alive.

Posted by: Fritz at April 17, 2017 08:27 PM (9Z0fw)

54 The pol board on 4chan is taking a break from trolling Shia Labeouf; its denizens are now using their Internet powers for another good and trying to track this POS down.


All they need is for the perp to put up a flag somewhere and he's toast.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:28 PM (8ZskC)

55 I blame Global Warming.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:28 PM (LTHVh)

56 Death penalty. As long as it takes to try him, fast track his appeals, and put him in an unmarked grave, within weeks.
Posted by: BurtTC

Give him a fair trial and a nice hangin'.

Posted by: Rooster Cogburn at April 17, 2017 08:28 PM (fYbFJ)

57 Hairy pussy is the real problem.

Proof is in the last thread, courtesy of zombie.

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2017 08:25 PM (JnYpG)

What? I like picking pubes out of my teeth.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:28 PM (pvwwD)

58 Dead or alive sounds about right. +10% if you bring him in alive.

Posted by: Fritz at April 17, 2017 08:27 PM (9Z0fw)


+20% if he's missing limbs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 17, 2017 08:28 PM (zc3Db)

59 In a statement, a Facebook spokesperson called the incident a "horrific crime" and said that the company does "not allow this kind of content on Facebook."

----------
Another "horrific crime" is reichwing fake news and facebook doesn't allow it either.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:26 PM (8ZskC)


"Does not allow this kind of content..."

But you did. You did allow it. The correct response is, "Yeah, we took it down as soon as we found a tech guy who was sober," but don't tell us you don't allow it.

You can't stop it. Be honest about that. You can only act afterwards.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:28 PM (Pz4pT)

60 $50,000. They must want him bad.
Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2017 08:23 PM (eeTCA)



Its all in United frequent flier miles.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:29 PM (8ZskC)

61 Dead or alive sounds about right. +10% if you bring him in alive.


Posted by: Fritz at April 17, 2017 08:27 PM (9Z0fw)

I'd rather see -10% if brought in alive.

Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2017 08:29 PM (uKRys)

62 My point still stands: Alex Jones exploits the weak-minded and mentally ill. He invokes shadowy cabals headed by 'international bankers' as the masterminds behind these world domination schemes.

Jones is a vicious little weasel who deserves what's coming to him, in whatever form it takes.
Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2017 11:13 AM (Fw5cQ)

We have the best weaponizd autists working for our side.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 17, 2017 08:29 PM (2qHjF)

63 42
>>Stephens is "a nice guy ... he is generous with everyone he knows. He was kind and loving to me and my children.




She left out "aspiring rapper"

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:30 PM (pvwwD)

64 In a statement, a Facebook spokesperson called the incident a "horrific crime" and said that the company does "not allow this kind of content on Facebook."


Another "horrific crime" is reichwing fake news and facebook doesn't allow it either.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2017 08:26 PM (8ZskC)



Priorities. Saving people from conservative news must take precedent over a murder

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2017 08:30 PM (auHtY)

65 Death penalty. As long as it takes to try him, fast track his appeals, and put him in an unmarked grave, within weeks.
Posted by: BurtTC

Give him a fair trial and a nice hangin'.
Posted by: Rooster Cogburn at April 17, 2017 08:28 PM (fYbFJ)


Yep, fair trial means every judge/prosecutor assigned to this case drops everything else from their schedule.

Catch him on Tuesday? Try him on Thursday. Appeal on Friday.

Rope on Monday. Done.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:30 PM (Pz4pT)

66 Here's the word ABC forgot to mention: Muslim.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/16/cleveland-ohio-
police-search-for-facebook-killer-steve-stevens-claims-multiple-victims/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2017 08:30 PM (R+30W)

67 No, Not, Nada. Shoot this fucker on sight.

He got judged by a jury of his peers on that video.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 08:31 PM (hUAfE)

68 he is in Canada.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 17, 2017 08:32 PM (2qHjF)

69 >>Catch him on Tuesday? Try him on Thursday. Appeal on Friday.

>Rope on Monday.


Why feed him over a weekend?



Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 08:32 PM (hMW5D)

70 She left out "aspiring rapper"


I think that I can state, without fear of contradiction, that this guy is turning his life around.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:32 PM (LTHVh)

71 >>he is in Canada.


Should be easy to find, they only have one road.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 08:33 PM (hMW5D)

72 The bread means he's Amish.



I sticking with bread, stay with me.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:33 PM (pvwwD)

73 In a statement, a Facebook spokesperson called the incident a "horrific crime" and said that the company does "not allow this kind of content on Facebook."
===

For 3 hours they did.

If had involved questions about the crimes committed by Zuckerberg's exPrecedent boyfriend it would have been zapped in 20 seconds .

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 17, 2017 08:33 PM (r58H0)

74 Doesn't Zuckerbook let ISIS murder videos stand?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:34 PM (LTHVh)

75 74
Doesn't Zuckerbook let ISIS murder videos stand?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:34 PM (LTHVh)


Only where they can sell United Airlines ads?

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:35 PM (pvwwD)

76 Still remembering LAPD absolutely shooting a truck to pieces in their pursuit of another black spree killer, Chris Dorner.

It was the wrong make, wrong model, wrong year, wrong color, and wrong plates to be Dorner's truck.

The two people in the truck were both the wrong age, wrong sex, and wrong ethnicity to be Dorner.

It was, however, a truck. You have to give it to LAPD on that.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 17, 2017 08:35 PM (qJjMA)

77 She left out "aspiring rapper"

I think that I can state, without fear of contradiction, that this guy is turning his life around.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
====

And he may in fact be heading toward a community college.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 17, 2017 08:35 PM (r58H0)

78 Looking forward to ONT tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 17, 2017 08:35 PM (qazQh)

79 My point still stands: Alex Jones exploits the weak-minded and mentally ill. He invokes shadowy cabals headed by 'international bankers' as the masterminds behind these world domination schemes.

Jones is a vicious little weasel who deserves what's coming to him, in whatever form it takes.
Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2017 11:13 AM (Fw5cQ)

Oops Sorry.. Barrel time. Copy and paste failed. This was supposed to be referenced to the 4chan pol working on finding him.

My new workouts of 6 miles with every 100 yards doing 20 push-ups and then the next 100 yards doing 20 body squats is euphoric. Love it.

Dinner time. Night Rons and Ettes.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 17, 2017 08:36 PM (2qHjF)

80 I think that I can state, without fear of contradiction, that this guy is turning his life around.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

He was enrolling in community college this fall.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2017 08:36 PM (fYbFJ)

81 76 Still remembering LAPD absolutely shooting a truck to pieces in their pursuit of another black spree killer, Chris Dorner.

It was the wrong make, wrong model, wrong year, wrong color, and wrong plates to be Dorner's truck.

The two people in the truck were both the wrong age, wrong sex, and wrong ethnicity to be Dorner.

It was, however, a truck. You have to give it to LAPD on that.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 17, 2017 08:35 PM (qJjMA)


Dorner shot cops, so it's totes understandable.

Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2017 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

82 It was, however, a truck. You have to give it to LAPD on that.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 17, 2017 08:35 PM (qJjMA)


But LAPD made it home safe that night to their families ... and really, that's all that matters.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 08:36 PM (fiGNd)

83 fakebook has a lot of conflicts of interests.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 08:37 PM (hUAfE)

84 "He was a good boy, who got in with the wrong crowd"

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:37 PM (pvwwD)

85 Still remembering LAPD absolutely shooting a truck to pieces in their pursuit of another black spree killer, Chris Dorner.

It was the wrong make, wrong model, wrong year, wrong color, and wrong plates to be Dorner's truck.

The two people in the truck were both the wrong age, wrong sex, and wrong ethnicity to be Dorner.

It was, however, a truck. You have to give it to LAPD on that.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 17, 2017 08:35 PM (qJjMA)


Which is why I would prefer something other than trial by cop. I don't trust them enough to not get the wrong guy, or somebody who doesn't deserve it getting between them and their prey.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:37 PM (Pz4pT)

86 Yep, fair trial means every judge/prosecutor assigned to this case drops everything else from their schedule.

Catch him on Tuesday? Try him on Thursday. Appeal on Friday.

Rope on Monday. Done.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:30 PM (Pz4pT)

===

Unless you get a judge like the one in Arkansas that issues an injunction stopping executions in the morning and the joins was the anti-death penalty SJWs protesting in the afternoon.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 17, 2017 08:38 PM (EZebt)

87 Alert!!


Be on the look out for a 6'1" fat black guy with bad teeth.


That is all

Posted by: Da FBI at April 17, 2017 08:38 PM (pvwwD)

88 Oh and he as a bread.

Posted by: Da FBI at April 17, 2017 08:39 PM (pvwwD)

89 Oh and he as a bread.

...and here we go again.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 17, 2017 08:40 PM (qJhUV)

90 Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:30 PM (Pz4pT)

===

Unless you get a judge like the one in Arkansas that issues an injunction stopping executions in the morning and the joins was the anti-death penalty SJWs protesting in the afternoon.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 17, 2017 08:38 PM (EZebt)


Call me crazy, but isn't that why these guys take oaths? Why their professions have standards for licensure?

You violate a basic principle like upholding the law, and engage in conflict of interest activities, and you not only lose your gavel, your license should be revoked.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:40 PM (Pz4pT)

91 Alert!!
Be on the look out for a 6'1" fat black guy with bad teeth.
That is all
Posted by: Da FBI at April 17, 2017 08:38 PM (pvwwD)

John Lewis is home on spring break......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2017 08:41 PM (5VlCp)

92 Oh and he as a bread.
Posted by: Da FBI

Is that some kinda rhyming slang me old china plate?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2017 08:41 PM (fYbFJ)

93 Looks a little more Elijah Cummings to me.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 08:43 PM (hUAfE)

94 This guy on Fox is an idiot

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:43 PM (Lat75)

95 Zombie's comment about the antifa rioters a couple threads back got linked by Instapundit.

Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)

96 That man does not live by bread alone.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 08:44 PM (IqV8l)

97 Happened in Cleveland.

CLEVELAND.

Posted by: NOT DETROIT! at April 17, 2017 08:45 PM (044Fx)

98 @95

Wow, so Glen is a lurker!

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:45 PM (Lat75)

99 >> This guy on Fox is an idiot


Odds are, yes.

Posted by: Magic 8 Ball at April 17, 2017 08:45 PM (hMW5D)

100 Call me crazy, but isn't that why these guys take oaths? Why their professions have standards for licensure?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:40 PM (Pz4pT)


Hey Burt. What's up ?

You piqued my interest here. How much do you think "taking an oath" matters anymore ?

Not picking a fight. I just wonder.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 08:45 PM (fiGNd)

101
Looks a little more Elijah Cummings to me.

Hit him in the head a few times and he'll look like John Lewis.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 08:45 PM (IqV8l)

102 Leafs / Caps all Tied up after 2!

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 08:46 PM (hMW5D)

103 >>>This guy on Fox is an idiot


Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:43 PM (Lat75)<<<
Shep? Oh... wait... you said guy.
Geraldo? Hmm... no, gotta be Juan Williams? No, no, don't tell me I'll get this eventually. Bob Beckel!?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at April 17, 2017 08:46 PM (+WXeq)

104 3 f'ing hours to take it down?? what the hell is wrong with them ?

Posted by: runner at April 17, 2017 08:47 PM (c6/9Q)

105
In the video he uploaded to Facebook, Stephens mentions Lane in the moments before the shooting, saying to the victim, "She's the reason why all this about to happen to you."

Who the hell knows what that could possibly mean. Joy Lane says she's "not sure" why the killer would have mentioned her; the perp's mother said that Stephens had mentioned being "angry" with his girlfriend shortly before the killing.


That's all you need to know what it means. We all know what it's like to be angry and want to smash some (inanimate) object. This arises from the same impulse. So it's not insane, but it is evil.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 17, 2017 08:47 PM (vRcUp)

106 The judiciary have abandoned even the pretense of objectivity, just like the civil service abandoned even the pretense of impartial professionalism.

We are way into Weimar territory.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 17, 2017 08:47 PM (EZebt)

107 Zombie's comment about the antifa rioters a couple threads back got linked by Instapundit.

>>>Wow, so Glen is a lurker!

Or he has a hairy pussy fetish.

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2017 08:47 PM (JnYpG)

108 Hit him in the head a few times and he'll look like John Lewis.


I snorted out loud and barely resisted ROETHLISBERGERING.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:49 PM (LTHVh)

109 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 08:45 PM (fiGNd)

The concept of being bound by and fulfilling an oath only matters to people who believe in the sanctity of an oath. So it's sort of an arcane practice, not really applicable in today's morally fluid society.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 08:49 PM (gwPgz)

110 There's different kinds of hairy pussies.

Let us not lump them all into one category.

Some are nice.

Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 08:50 PM (qUNWi)

111 Ya know- I don't even want a taxpayer relief shot here. I want this MF' to put that gun in his mouth and pull the trigger.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 08:50 PM (hUAfE)

112 Just saw a wanted billboard add with this guys picture on it In Greensboro NC.

Posted by: Picric at April 17, 2017 08:50 PM (s0VSd)

113 Or he has a hairy pussy fetish.

Posted by: wooga at April 17, 2017 08:47 PM (JnYpG)


He IS a little kinky sometimes with his links. His wife writes a sex blog I think. He links to Frisky all the time.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:51 PM (Lat75)

114 98 @95

Wow, so Glen is a lurker!

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:45 PM (Lat75)

++++

It was at Instapundid, but it was one of Ed Driscoll's posts. Ed links the HQ on a regular basis.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2017 08:51 PM (R+30W)

115
He links to Frisky all the time.
Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:51 PM


The cat food?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 08:52 PM (IqV8l)

116 Ed likes the hairy pussy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:52 PM (LTHVh)

117 95 Zombie's comment about the antifa rioters a couple threads back got linked by Instapundit.
Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)

It makes you wonder who is reading the comments.

Posted by: moki at April 17, 2017 08:52 PM (V+V48)

118 There's different kinds of hairy pussies.

Let us not lump them all into one category.

Some are nice.
Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 08:50 PM (qUNWi)


There's one parked on my feet at the far end of the couch right now, purring and drooling and making little flippy paw motions in her sleep. She's nice. Dumb as a bag of defective hammers though.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 17, 2017 08:53 PM (8nWyX)

119 *Half-price cheeseburgers at Sonic, tomorrow only.

Possibly related to the thread topic. Who knows?
Posted by: filbert at April 17, 2017 08:18 PM (s5o+q)*

I was gonna do stir-fry but, cheeseburgers FTW!

And I've got 2 Sonics in my town to choose from.

Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2017 08:53 PM (LWW4k)

120 Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2017 08:30 PM (R+30W)

True, but since we may never really know his motivation, it wouldn't be fair to list his religious affiliation!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 08:54 PM (gwPgz)

121 @115

No, silly, this.


http://tinyurl.com/l6vpooc

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:55 PM (Lat75)

122 The concept of being bound by and fulfilling an oath only matters to people who believe in the sanctity of an oath. So it's sort of an arcane practice, not really applicable in today's morally fluid society.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 08:49 PM (gwPgz)


OK ... then when was it ? And I'm completely serious as a heart attack here.

Because if the notion of "I Promise" was that solid - it would seem we could vest The Right People with Infinite Power. After all, they promise to do good with it.

The Founding Fathers seemed to not trust the good nature of men quite that much. Binding them with the chains of the Constitution, and all that.

Fine ... I AM picking a fight. If Society was smart enought to contrive a proper Oath ... and then find the Best People to be Trusted to Take It ... well Hell.

There'd be no limit to the good that could be done.

*spit*

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 08:55 PM (fiGNd)

123 116
Ed likes the hairy pussy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:52 PM (LTHVh)

AND, who doesn't?

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 08:55 PM (Lat75)

124 110 There's different kinds of hairy pussies.

Let us not lump them all into one category.

Some are nice.
Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 08:50 PM (qUNWi)


Yeah, my Kira is long-haired and a very silky little purr monster.

Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2017 08:56 PM (sdi6R)

125 There's different kinds of hairy pussies.

Let us not lump them all into one category.

Some are nice.

Posted by: eleven


Variety is the spice of life.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 17, 2017 08:57 PM (vRcUp)

126 There's one parked on my feet at the far end of the couch right now, purring and drooling and making little flippy paw motions in her sleep. She's nice. Dumb as a bag of defective hammers though.
Posted by: hogmartin


Kittaw!

Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 08:57 PM (qUNWi)

127 True, but since we may never really know his motivation, it wouldn't be fair to list his religious affiliation!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 08:54 PM (gwPgz)

++++

That's the thing I respect about the msm: their dedication to fairness.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2017 08:58 PM (R+30W)

128 This blog today...

\_(oO)_/

Posted by: Max Power at April 17, 2017 08:58 PM (q177U)

129 Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:22

It's curious. The media is all over this Cleveland shooter when a more interesting story happened nearby in Rock Falls, IL.

Some azzhole walked into a bar and started shooting. Hit 4 people, initial reports said 1 died, that was false. He then disappeared.
2 days later no one kkows who he is, why or where he is.

Great, this is just ca 12 miles form us and he's running around loose. I thi nk if he stops by the doggehs will keep him away.

Posted by: Farmer at April 17, 2017 08:58 PM (o/90i)

130 And I've got 2 Sonics in my town to choose from.
Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2017 08:53 PM (LWW4k)


Do both! At half price, for the cost of one, you could get...
*counts on fingers*
...this many!

Posted by: hogmartin at April 17, 2017 08:58 PM (8nWyX)

131
*Half-price cheeseburgers at Sonic, tomorrow only.

How much do they normally cost?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 08:59 PM (IqV8l)

132 Half-price cheeseburgers at Sonic, tomorrow only.

How much do they normally cost?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 08:59 PM


twice as much

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 17, 2017 08:59 PM (KCxzN)

133 This guy could be just crazy. But really he could just be plain old-fashioned crazy. No religion, just plain crazy kinda sort of like them religious fanatic religious guys, ya know?

Posted by: Killerdog at April 17, 2017 08:59 PM (DqT4X)

134 People Mag- The dinner date between Caitlyn and Chaz.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 09:00 PM (hUAfE)

135 2 X 2 = Cheeseburger.

Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 09:00 PM (qUNWi)

136 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 08:55 PM (fiGNd)

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely (even for those that take oaths seriously)!

Posted by: Zombie Lord Acton at April 17, 2017 09:01 PM (gwPgz)

137 I kan has half-price cheezburger?

Posted by: frugal kitteh at April 17, 2017 09:01 PM (fYbFJ)

138
The government just loves to regulate to death everything. It's time to regulate Farcebook right out of existence. We need a Farcebook czar to tell them what they can and can't do and exist would be one of the can't do's. And let's bankrupt Suckerberg the next generation Soros

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2017 09:02 PM (auHtY)

139 Evil walks among us every day.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:02 PM (tHwdc)

140 Evil walks among us every day.



Jeez, I'm standing right here..


*sulks*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:03 PM (LTHVh)

141 In another life I dated a REAL blonde. Her hair everywhere was sooo soft.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:03 PM (Lat75)

142 I kan has half-price cheezburger?


Mebbe.

Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 09:04 PM (qUNWi)

143 pic.twitter.com
/M4cj9gXdEk


They sure are pushing Webb's daughter. Per WZ.

Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2017 09:04 PM (uKRys)

144 Evil walks among us every day.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:02 PM (tHwdc)


I'm sitting down.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:04 PM (fiGNd)

145 139
Evil walks among us every day.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:02 PM (tHwdc)

What? Palin Steele is back?

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:04 PM (Lat75)

146 *I snorted out loud and barely resisted ROETHLISBERGERING.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 08:49 PM (LTHVh)*

Never resist ROETHLISBERGERING. Bad for your health.

Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2017 09:05 PM (LWW4k)

147 We may never know. He was a good boy. He love the chirruns. He was turning his life around.

Posted by: John R.R.R. Kasich at April 17, 2017 09:06 PM (Tyii7)

148 The judiciary have abandoned even the pretense of objectivity, just like the civil service abandoned even the pretense of impartial professionalism.

We are way into Weimar territory.

Posted by: San Franpsycho


Aren't almost all judges former lawyers? You'd think that any social justice indoctrination they picked up at law school would be slowly eroded by years of having to be pragmatic. ie. thinking "I have to defend this evil capitalist, but it would help my career, so I'll do it", or in Hillary's case "I know I'm supposed to be a feminist but I can get this guy acquitted who molested a little girl".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 17, 2017 09:07 PM (vRcUp)

149 147
We may never know. He was a good boy. He love the chirruns. He was turning his life around.


Posted by: John R.R.R. Kasich at April 17, 2017 09:06 PM (Tyii7)

Just signed up for Weight Watchers.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:08 PM (Lat75)

150 Does ESPN still carry playoff hockey?

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 17, 2017 09:09 PM (2qHjF)

151 Evil walks among us every day.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:02 PM (tHwdc)

What? Palin Steele is back?
Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:04 PM (Lat75)

--LMAO dum-dum was just dumb, not sentient enough to be a threat.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:09 PM (GsAUU)

152 We may never know. He was a good boy. He love the chirruns. He was turning his life around.
Posted by: John R.R.R. Kasich at April 17, 2017 09:06 PM (Tyii7)


Now Son of a Son of a Mailman reminds me of EXACTLY the type that would shocked ... just fucking dumb-founded ... because somebody "broke their oath".

Personally - I find him the type type of Comfortable Idiot as the typical Limousine Liberal. Just a different flavor.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:09 PM (fiGNd)

153 So we are looking for a fat black guy that killed another black guy.



Can we racial profile this, or do we need to stop all fat people or all black people.



We are so confused

Posted by: Da FBI at April 17, 2017 09:10 PM (Lat75)

154 One good thing that could come out if this;

Whenever someone thinks "Facebook" the next thing they think of is "Murder."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 17, 2017 09:10 PM (EZebt)

155 Don't worry. Facebook is ON TOP of all those icky Conservatives with their badthink mindthoughts.

If a few crazed murders, rapes, or dismemberments slip through, at least the problematic people are dealt with immediately.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 17, 2017 09:10 PM (oVJmc)

156 "Moderation is hard"



Wicked hahd!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:10 PM (tHwdc)

157 Do both! At half price, for the cost of one, you could get...
*counts on fingers*
...this many!
Posted by: hogmartin at April 17, 2017 08:58 PM (8nWyX)

Damn, nearly soaked my keyboard in whiskey.

Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2017 09:11 PM (LWW4k)

158 --LMAO dum-dum was just dumb, not sentient enough to be a threat.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:09 PM (GsAUU)

OK, moo moo?

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:11 PM (Lat75)

159 Moderation in all things, including moderation.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:11 PM (tHwdc)

160 >>Does ESPN still carry playoff hockey?


No. Though, their boycott of coverage has waned of late...ESPN is only interested in Social Justice as it applies to the NBA, NFL and Women's Sports.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:11 PM (hMW5D)

161 He was turning his life around alright- he just took the wrong turn.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 09:11 PM (hUAfE)

162 That's all you need to know what it means. We all know what it's like to be angry and want to smash some (inanimate) object. This arises from the same impulse. So it's not insane, but it is evil.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 17, 2017 08:47 PM (vRcUp)

Hey now.

Posted by: Gallagher at April 17, 2017 09:12 PM (2qHjF)

163 We must try to understand what made him so angry.

Posted by: John R.R.R. Kasich at April 17, 2017 09:13 PM (Tyii7)

164 Aren't almost all judges former lawyers? You'd think that any social justice indoctrination they picked up at law school would be slowly eroded by years of having to be pragmatic. ie. thinking "I have to defend this evil capitalist, but it would help my career, so I'll do it", or in Hillary's case "I know I'm supposed to be a feminist but I can get this guy acquitted who molested a little girl".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 17, 2017 09:07 PM (vRcUp)


If Lord Acton was indeed right ... and I think he was ... then why would we be so surprised ? They not only volunteered to get into that line of work - they paid damn good money to do so.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:13 PM (fiGNd)

165
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pigs crawling,
Begging mercies for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:13 PM (LTHVh)

166 Oh Lord yeah

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:14 PM (LTHVh)

167 149 147
We may never know. He was a good boy. He love the chirruns. He was turning his life around.


Posted by: John R.R.R. Kasich at April 17, 2017 09:06 PM (Tyii7)

Just signed up for Weight Watchers.
Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:08 PM (Lat75

had 3 babies by 4 different wimmins

Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2017 09:14 PM (+m3Ar)

168 People Mag- The dinner date between Caitlyn and Chaz.

Posted by: Ben Had


Can you pass the frank and beans? You've hardly touched it all evening.

Posted by: Chaz Bono at April 17, 2017 09:14 PM (vRcUp)

169 OH LORD - YEAH!

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:14 PM (hMW5D)

170 Thanks garrett. I have a free 2 months of SlingTV and have ESPN channels. I love playoff hockey so naturally they don't have it anymore.

*smashes cantaloupes*

Posted by: Gallagher at April 17, 2017 09:14 PM (2qHjF)

171 Does ESPN still carry playoff hockey?

No, but in keeping with the SJW agenda they'll be doing a 30 for 30 on it. "Only the Puck Was Black".

Posted by: tu3031 at April 17, 2017 09:14 PM (qJhUV)

172 Oh, you are gonna put it on the tee and take a swing yourself...I see.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:14 PM (hMW5D)

173 Show of hands ... who ever thought Grumpy was a Black Sabbath guy ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:15 PM (fiGNd)

174 Oh, you are gonna put it on the tee and take a swing yourself...I see.


I waited a minute and didn't get an amen.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:15 PM (LTHVh)

175 NBC networks have the NHL Playoffs.

NBC, MSNBC, NBCSN, USA and some NHL Network.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:15 PM (hMW5D)

176 Death penalty. As long as it takes to try him, fast track his appeals, and put him in an unmarked grave, within weeks.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 17, 2017 08:22 PM (Pz4pT)

Just put a price on his head, post "Wanted, Dead or Alive" posters in every post office and let the free market deal with his ass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2017 09:16 PM (0deF2)

177 Just put a price on his head, post "Wanted, Dead or Alive" posters in every post office and let the free market deal with his ass.

I hope he ain't a cowboy ridin' on a steel horse ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:17 PM (fiGNd)

178 150 Does ESPN still carry playoff hockey?
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 17, 2017 09:09 PM (2qHjF)

--Nope, NBCSN, NBC, CNBC, and USA.

Last year there were even games on MSNBC --the only time I watched anything on that network!

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:17 PM (GsAUU)

179 "We may never know. He was a good boy. He love the chirruns. He was turning his life around. "


He used to cut my grass!

Posted by: Roller Headed Lady at April 17, 2017 09:17 PM (BO/km)

180 I can't wait to hear from Uncle Palpatine, to find out how today's quest went.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:18 PM (tHwdc)

181 There's a red moon rising on the Cuyahoga River rolling into Cleveland to the lake.

Posted by: Randy Newman at April 17, 2017 09:18 PM (rqZCh)

182 MSNBC showed icky white man sports?

Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 09:18 PM (qUNWi)

183 *Just put a price on his head, post "Wanted, Dead or Alive" posters in every post office and let the free market deal with his ass.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2017 09:16 PM (0deF2)*

Evil Capitalism just out to keep the black man down!

/s

Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2017 09:18 PM (LWW4k)

184 Show of hands ... who ever thought Grumpy was a Black Sabbath guy ?


Funny story. When I was a teenager I was at a friends house getting drunk during his parents 'adult party'. We had the music cranked up and one of the local priests stuck his head in, drunk as a skunk, listened for a minute and said 'Boys, I like this music. Who is the band'. My brother blurted 'It's Black Sabbath, Father!'. He nodded and said 'Ah. Christian Rock.'

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:19 PM (LTHVh)

185 Tucker idiot of the day says if Americans knew more they would be more supportive of immigrants. I assume he means by "immigrant" he means illegal alien. Now why would I support scofflaws staying in the country...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2017 09:20 PM (P/kVC)

186 The professor on Tucker Carlson right now appears to be a young Dr. Strangelove.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 17, 2017 09:20 PM (TnUKj)

187 182 MSNBC showed icky white man sports?
Posted by: eleven at April 17, 2017 09:18 PM (qUNWi)

--I would not be surprised if the ratings beat their regular programming for the whole year.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:21 PM (GsAUU)

188 Funny story. When I was a teenager I was at a friends house getting drunk during his parents 'adult party'. We had the music cranked up and one of the local priests stuck his head in, drunk as a skunk, listened for a minute and said 'Boys, I like this music. Who is the band'. My brother blurted 'It's Black Sabbath, Father!'. He nodded and said 'Ah. Christian Rock.'
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:19 PM (LTHVh)*

Too funny.

Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2017 09:21 PM (LWW4k)

189 "She's the reason why all this about to happen to you."

English.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at April 17, 2017 09:21 PM (/U083)

190 He used to cut my grass!

Posted by: Roller Headed Lady at April 17, 2017 09:17 PM (BO/km)

He doesn't look Mexican.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:21 PM (Lat75)

191 Hawks v Preds are on CNBC tonight.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:22 PM (hMW5D)

192
He used to cut my grass!
Posted by: Roller Headed Lady


Wino man

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (IqV8l)

193 Idiot of the day - if you not agree with me you are ignorant.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (P/kVC)

194 I want Toronto and the Crapitals to go 7.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (89T5c)

195 Master of Reality was the first cassette tape I ever owned.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (hMW5D)

196 light filtering or blackout shades? or just blackout shades for the bedrooms and light filtering everywhere else?

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (0O7c5)

197 Idiot of the day - if you not agree with me you are ignorant.

Dude has a hell of a future on the Art Thread.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (fiGNd)

198 Any of those Thomas Perry novels you read about the woman that helps people disappear, they all make it sound like it takes serious smarts to avoid the law, avoid the mob, avoid private dicks, avoid anybody finding you.

Going to ground ain't easy. You can't trust anybody you know, or any stranger.

The law will be staking out everyone he has ever had any connection to, no matter how thin the thread. They will probably be extending the web to connections to the connections.

How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (U6f54)

199 191 Hawks v Preds are on CNBC tonight.
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:22 PM (hMW5D)

--May be a while if Sens-Bruins has OT.

In any case I hope to hear "Chelsea Dagger" tonight.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:24 PM (GsAUU)

200 What are the odds the guy on Tucker is a fag?



Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:24 PM (Lat75)

201 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 08:55 PM (fiGNd)

I think there are two primary problems with trusting those that are wiling to take an oath, the primary one is the easily corruptible nature of the human race, and the secondary one is that of the remote ruler never having to actually face or interact with the ruled, thus being essentially unaccountable for his actions.

There is a tertiary problem as well related to the homogeneity of the society. In a small town, I might vote for Mayor Dogg and realistically expect him to abide by his oath of office because he lives two blocks over, our kids go to the same school, I do business with him every few weeks, and we go to the same (or very similar churches).

Whereas in polyglot Megalopolus, I can only vote for some remote figure I've never met, who lives in a gated community miles away from my community, whose kids will never see the inside of a public school, who only does business with K-Street lobbyists and Foundation lawyers, and whose church affiliation (if one exists at all) is questionable. I'd be very optimistic if I felt I could count on him to take an oath seriously. Note I am not really proposing a religious test; but I am noting that I think common shared virtuous values make it easier to trust an official I am empowering with the levers of state. Since so few in public office have anything in common with my life or family, I have little reason to believe that most of them will take the constraints of an oath seriously.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:24 PM (gwPgz)

202 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (U6f54)

It helps to have a bumbling moron in charge of the manhunt.

Posted by: Chief Moose at April 17, 2017 09:25 PM (GsAUU)

203 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (U6f54)


Pre-position shit. Grow your hair and beard out so you can cut it off in stages.

Still won't work forever. Might get you down the road a ways.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:26 PM (fiGNd)

204 Evel no longer walks limps among us.

He's jumped that great Snake River Canyon in they sky.

*wipes tear*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 17, 2017 09:26 PM (v5iqM)

205 We had the music cranked up and one of the local priests stuck his head in, drunk as a skunk, listened for a minute and said 'Boys, I like this music. Who is the band'. My brother blurted 'It's Black Sabbath, Father!'. He nodded and said 'Ah. Christian Rock.'

Posted by: Grump928(C)


Well, they were booked once by mistake at an African American venue.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 17, 2017 09:26 PM (vRcUp)

206 >>In any case I hope to hear "Chelsea Dagger" tonight.


If the Preds stick to their Game Plan and don't make any mistakes...I don't see it happening.

They are completely dictating the terms of this series.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:28 PM (hMW5D)

207 198. How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?

Personally, I would try and head into appalachian mountains, and live in the woods. I cannot remember the Ex Green Beret that did it a couple of years ago. However I am doubting that this guy has that skill set.

Posted by: Picric at April 17, 2017 09:28 PM (s0VSd)

208 Why am I getting anti Bob Gray ads in the Indianapolis market?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 09:29 PM (IqV8l)

209 A fat black bald guy could go to Philly, NYC or DC and fade in for a long time.



Course, $50K on your head is going to weigh you down. A brother will be turning your ass in.


I think the car is the biggest clue. He has to have ditched that sucker by now.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:29 PM (Lat75)

210 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?

Posted by: Les Kinetic


Eric Rudolph survived several years in the woods, because he had mad survival skillz.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 17, 2017 09:29 PM (vRcUp)

211 'Wino man'

I can't help myself.

Posted by: A stumbler at April 17, 2017 09:30 PM (BO/km)

212 The ubiquitous nature of surveillance cameras make sneaking around a bit harder than before.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:30 PM (LTHVh)

213 I'd go to Peruvia.

They never think to look there and I know they don't have any Extradition Treaties with Cleveland.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:30 PM (hMW5D)

214 There is a tertiary problem as well related to the homogeneity of the society. In a small town, I might vote for Mayor Dogg and realistically expect him to abide by his oath of office because he lives two blocks over, our kids go to the same school, I do business with him every few weeks, and we go to the same (or very similar churches).

A fine answer. Seems that "The Oath" isn't as important as - "Don't Fuck Me Over".

And I agree with all you said. Used to be, here in Louisville, that police had to live in their own patrol area. Not anymore.

In Scogginia, children of all public servants would attend public school. Use public services whenever possible. So on and so forth.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:30 PM (fiGNd)

215 Eric Rudolph survived several years in the woods, because he had mad survival skillz.

Wasn't he caught dumpster diving?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:30 PM (LTHVh)

216 Adding P.K. seems to have paid off as well.
If the Preds stick to their Game Plan and don't make any mistakes...I don't see it happening.

They are completely dictating the terms of this series.
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:28 PM (hMW5D)

--It seems like the Preds are coming of age, with those years of playoff experience paying off against a great veteran team like the 'Hawks.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:31 PM (GsAUU)

217 Posted by: Picric at April 17, 2017 09:28 PM (s0VSd)

I think that was Eric Rudolph?

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:31 PM (gwPgz)

218 Personally, I would try and head into appalachian
mountains, and live in the woods. I cannot remember the Ex Green Beret
that did it a couple of years ago. However I am doubting that this guy
has that skill set.

Posted by: Picric at April 17, 2017 09:28 PM (s0VSd)

He was from NC and lived for five years in the hills, finally got caught dumpster diving.

http://tinyurl.com/gw59khz

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:31 PM (Lat75)

219 The victim's family wanted everyone to know he was a sweet old man. Anyone with half a brain could tell that just by looking at him. I pray there aren't any more victims, and that the police find him soon. I have to wonder that we have heard nothing. I wonder if they are withholding information to avoid tipping him off.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 feet CO at April 17, 2017 09:31 PM (JreH3)

220 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?

My plan if I ever need it is to grab a gun and bedroll and high-tail it to the swamps. I figure I'll last about three months probably, maybe a year if I'm lucky, but at least I'll die free.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 17, 2017 09:31 PM (bZ7mE)

221 Heh, tail end of my comment went to the front.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:32 PM (GsAUU)

222 Caps - Leafs going to OT.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 17, 2017 09:32 PM (qJhUV)

223 Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pigs crawling,
Begging mercies for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:13 PM (LTHVh)


WELP, now I have this stuck in my head to the tune of "Winter Wonderland".

Posted by: hogmartin at April 17, 2017 09:32 PM (8nWyX)

224 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?


How stick-at-naught are you?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:32 PM (LTHVh)

225
In Scogginia, children of all public servants would attend public school.

So they would have fewer rights than the average Joe who could still send his kids to private school?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 09:33 PM (IqV8l)

226 P.K. Subban: one of the most prominent African-Americans in the NHL.

*SNORT*

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:33 PM (GsAUU)

227 I just think the entire team has bought into this sytem they are playing and they have made almost no mistakes the entire series.

Also, Pekka Rinne is standing on his head every night.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:34 PM (hMW5D)

228 'How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture? '

Learn Spanish and get a job picking lettuce.

Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2017 09:34 PM (BO/km)

229 Those Mexicans will rat you out in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (LTHVh)

230 222 Caps - Leafs going to OT.
Posted by: tu3031 at April 17, 2017 09:32 PM (qJhUV)

--Ottawa-Boston close to that was well.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (GsAUU)

231 Thanks ,Steve, Ralph, and Hrothgar. I could not think of Eric Rudolph. I had one of my boy scout leaders swear up and down that after his capture he had seen him on a hike.

I told him that was probably not a good thing to brag about.

Posted by: Picric at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (s0VSd)

232 So they would have fewer rights than the average Joe who could still send his kids to private school?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 09:33 PM (IqV8l)


Yes.

They weren't drafted.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (fiGNd)

233 NHL Playoff Season is the Best Season.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (hMW5D)

234 >>>Personally, I would try and head into appalachian

mountains, and live in the woods. I cannot remember the Ex Green Beret

that did it a couple of years ago. However I am doubting that this guy

has that skill set.



Posted by: Picric at April 17, 2017 09:28 PM (s0VSd)<<<




Gotta be careful. Many a man has gotten lost on an Appalachian trail.

Posted by: Mark Sanford at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (+WXeq)

235 Learn Spanish and get a job picking lettuce.

Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2017 09:34 PM (BO/km)

Something tells be a 244 lb black guy is not going to make it picking lettuce.

Just a hunch.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (Lat75)

236 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2017 09:23 PM (U6f54)


Live near a coast, have a ~30 foot sloop under another name, bag ass to a non-extradition country. This requires actual planning though.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (8nWyX)

237 And I agree with all you said. Used to be, here in Louisville, that police had to live in their own patrol area. Not anymore.

In Scogginia, children of all public servants would attend public school. Use public services whenever possible. So on and so forth.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:30 PM (fiGNd)


So glad we've moved on from societal cohesion!

But when you get right down to it, feudal societies are always best (for the ruling class).

"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." ~ Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (gwPgz)

238 >>Many a man has gotten lost on an Appalachian trail.

Posted by: Mark Sanford at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (+WXeq)


The Undergrowth is thick and filled with chiggers and ticks.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (hMW5D)

239
Gotta be careful. Many a man has gotten lost on an Appalachian trail.


Posted by: Mark Sanford at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (+WXeq)

With a hairy pussy.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (Lat75)

240 So they would have fewer rights than the average Joe who could still send his kids to private school?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 09:33 PM (IqV8l)

They agree to send their kids to public schools in exchange for the privilege of having a nearly recession-proof Gummint job. It's a trade.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (0deF2)

241 A lot would depend on whether you have fake papers or not.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:37 PM (LTHVh)

242 The Undergrowth is thick and filled with chiggers and ticks.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (hMW5D)

And BEARS.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:37 PM (Lat75)

243 And we have another OT game.

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 09:37 PM (GsAUU)

244 *one of the most prominent African-Americans in the NHL. *

This. Is. Hockey.

No one gives a sh!t about race.

Can you skate?

Can you score?

Can you beat the sh!t out of the other guy?

If you answer Yes for 2 out of 3 above, sign here. And suit up.

Posted by: tbodie at April 17, 2017 09:37 PM (LWW4k)

245 And BEARS.

Oh my.

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 17, 2017 09:38 PM (LTHVh)

246 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?

I'd fly to another country, preferably an island country, make friends with a really rich guy, and cruise around with him on his yacht.
That's what I'd do.

Posted by: AKA Barry Soetoro at April 17, 2017 09:38 PM (qJhUV)

247 And I agree with all you said. Used to be, here in Louisville, that police had to live in their own patrol area. Not anymore.

My brother has to be careful how he leaves and returns to his house, to avoid tipping off some of the neighborhood that he actually lives there. He has a family and some of the locals are militia/meth-cookers - not a good idea to make it obvious that a policeman lives a mile down the road....

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 17, 2017 09:38 PM (bZ7mE)

248 I didn't mean that guy in particular. Just if you wanted to avoid arrest and go into the shadows you could ...

Oh never mind.

Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2017 09:38 PM (BO/km)

249 Evel no longer walks limps among us.



He's jumped that great Snake River Canyon in they sky.



*wipes tear*




Posted by: Jim at April 17, 2017 09:26 PM (v5iqM)

It's more effective if you allow the tear trail to glisten on your cheek.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:39 PM (tHwdc)

250 Live near a coast, have a ~30 foot sloop under
another name, bag ass to a non-extradition country. This requires actual
planning though.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (8nWyX)

Yeah, so we can rule that out in this case.
Sad in some respects. In the 1800's if you fcked up you just headed out West and no one knew shit and you lived happily ever after.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:39 PM (Lat75)

251 P.K. Subban: one of the most prominent African-Americans in the NHL.


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE WAS BORN IN ONTARIO.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 17, 2017 09:40 PM (LTHVh)

252 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:35 PM (fiGNd)

Yes, those "civil servants" (aka "civil masters" per Heinlein), could always quit those onerous public service jobs, ditch those tax-payer funded salaries, get real jobs, and send their kids to the finest schools in the country!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:40 PM (gwPgz)

253 245
And BEARS.



Oh my.

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 17, 2017 09:38 PM (LTHVh)

LOL! Call me.

Posted by: Barney at April 17, 2017 09:40 PM (Lat75)

254 But when you get right down to it, feudal societies are always best (for the ruling class).

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:36 PM (gwPgz)


I've said this before ... I think we're down to nothing more than an elected monarchy. Our choices seem to be limited to Lancasters or Yorks.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:41 PM (fiGNd)

255 In fairness, Ontario is in the Americas.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:41 PM (LTHVh)

256 Cleveland disappoints again.

Posted by: Zombie Harvey Pekar at April 17, 2017 09:42 PM (rqZCh)

257 There's something very odd about this story.

Guy is nuts but has managed to stay hidden with the cops knowing description, name and car. He hasn't continued on a killing spree, and he isn't looking for a suicide by cop, for the moment.

He's trying to get away. He's too easy to recognize so how is he eating? Does he have help?

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 17, 2017 09:42 PM (3myMJ)

258 Hockey crowd booing.

https://youtu.be/vC8ExWwdAj8

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 17, 2017 09:42 PM (GgzGa)

259 P.K. Subban: one of the most prominent African-Americans in the NHL.


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE WAS BORN IN ONTARIO.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 17, 2017 09:40 PM (LTHVh)
Crayola's newest color? African-American!

Posted by: tu3031 at April 17, 2017 09:42 PM (qJhUV)

260 But his parents are from the Caribbean. So he's Caribbecanadian.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:44 PM (LTHVh)

261 I've said this before ... I think we're down to nothing more than an elected monarchy. Our choices seem to be limited to Lancasters or Yorks.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:41 PM (fiGNd)


I'm becoming concerned that we seem to agree on so much, rather scary, that!

Hooting apes really want an ape "king" to lead them!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:44 PM (gwPgz)

262 He's trying to get away. He's too easy to recognize so how is he eating? Does he have help?

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 17, 2017 09:42 PM (3myMJ)

Probably still in Cleveland in someone's basement. Car in a garage. I'll guarantee you if you are in a white Ford Fusion, your tag is going to be run. He had a temp tag, so anyone with a temp tag is going to get pulled.

Posted by: Ralph at April 17, 2017 09:44 PM (Lat75)

263 He's trying to get away. He's too easy to recognize so how is he eating? Does he have help?

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 17, 2017 09:42 PM (3myMJ)

If he is in fact a self-radicalized muzzie, probably any radical imam at a radical mosque would help him, and certainly other ISIS wanna-bes would.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2017 09:46 PM (0deF2)

264 Someone on Chicago needs to go real hard to/through the net.

I'm looking at you Panik.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:47 PM (hMW5D)

265 The Amish have like underground railroads or something.

Posted by: CNN at April 17, 2017 09:47 PM (Lat75)

266 I'm becoming concerned that we seem to agree on so much, rather scary, that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:44 PM (gwPgz)


Meh ... relax. I'll piss you off sooner rather than later. It's what I do.

You ain't one of those longbow faggots, are ya' ? Carry a pussy 9mm, perhaps ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:47 PM (fiGNd)

267 If he is in fact a self-radicalized muzzie

Did he Halloo-snackbar in the video?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:47 PM (LTHVh)

268 The Amish have like underground railroads or something.

Posted by: CNN at April 17, 2017 09:47 PM (Lat75)


They call it low-speed rail!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:48 PM (gwPgz)

269
The Amish have like underground railroads or something.
Posted by: CNN


Steam cars?

Posted by: Alvin York at April 17, 2017 09:49 PM (IqV8l)

270 >>The Amish have like underground railroads or something.



Also, hairy beavers.

Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2017 09:49 PM (hMW5D)

271 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:47 PM (fiGNd)

Not today my friend, unless you aren't a believer in John Browning's caliber.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:50 PM (gwPgz)

272 Leafs win.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 17, 2017 09:50 PM (qJhUV)

273 Did he Halloo-snackbar in the video?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 17, 2017 09:47 PM (LTHVh)

There was a link up-thread that suggested he was well-known at a particular Cleveland mosque.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2017 09:51 PM (0deF2)

274 Zombie's comment about the antifa rioters a couple threads back got linked by Instapundit.

Posted by: rickl at April 17, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)



//pjmedia.com /instapundit/ 262752/ #respond

Indeed

Posted by: gNewt at April 17, 2017 09:52 PM (ngJq0)

275 There was a link up-thread that suggested he was well-known at a particular Cleveland mosque.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2017 09:51 PM (0deF2)

Interesting. If he stays free much longer and they don't find the car, the best case scenario is that he's being harbored.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 17, 2017 09:55 PM (3myMJ)

276 Not today my friend, unless you aren't a believer in John Browning's caliber.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 09:50 PM (gwPgz)


I am a firm believer in Browningism.

But my carry gun is a .357 Magnum.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:55 PM (fiGNd)

277 It figures. 6 posts on the ONT and all vaporized, and the ONT with them.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:56 PM (tHwdc)

278 It figures. 6 posts on the ONT and all vaporized, and the ONT with them.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 17, 2017 09:56 PM (tHwdc)


Not enough Moderation ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:57 PM (fiGNd)

279 It's back

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2017 09:58 PM (IqV8l)

280 OMG. The ONT was there, I read the content, made a comment and POOF! It's gone

Posted by: shibumi at April 17, 2017 09:58 PM (FkAXz)

281 "..... it makes no sense to anyone who is sane."

----

It makes perfect sense if you're familiar with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Posted by: gastorgrab at April 17, 2017 09:58 PM (u6OFe)

282 Interesting. If he stays free much longer and they don't find the car, the best case scenario is that he's being harbored.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 17, 2017 09:55 PM (3myMJ)

Just speculating here, but maybe he was trying to join up with some ISIS-inspired gang, and they made a condition that he publicly commit a murder before they would accept him. Perhaps in the belief that such a provision would make it harder for their cell to be infiltrated by law enforcement.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 17, 2017 09:59 PM (0deF2)

283 But my carry gun is a .357 Magnum.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 17, 2017 09:55 PM (fiGNd)


Close enough!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 17, 2017 10:00 PM (gwPgz)

284 How best to lone-wolf it to avoid capture?

Put on a sombrero. They make you invisible.

Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2017 10:00 PM (HwVbl)

285 'Wino man'
I can't help myself.
Posted by: A stumbler at April 17, 2017 09:30

Is this a new poster or a sock? I'm trying open my second bottle of wine.

Be well.

Posted by: Farmer at April 17, 2017 10:01 PM (o/90i)

286 The ONT was there, I read the content, made a comment and POOF! It's gone
Posted by: shibumi


At least we know the cause of the problem...

Posted by: t-bird at April 17, 2017 10:02 PM (HwVbl)

287 Posted by: Ben Had at April 17, 2017 08:50 PM (hUAfE)

Most likely outcome.

Posted by: gracepc at April 17, 2017 10:04 PM (OU4q6)

288 Los Pollos Hermanos at last!

Posted by: logprof at April 17, 2017 10:07 PM (GsAUU)

289 Off to bed, be well you Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at April 17, 2017 11:32 PM (o/90i)

290 Too funny. The younger dog grabbed 3 toys to take to bed. J put them in the basket and she grabbed 2 more!

Posted by: Farmer at April 18, 2017 12:00 AM (o/90i)

291 Wow, I killed the ONT! Sad.

Posted by: Farmer at April 18, 2017 12:28 AM (o/90i)

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