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US Drops MOAB Bomb Against Tunnel Complex In Eastern Afghanistan, Using the "Mother of All Bombs" For First Time in Combat

You might remember footage of this bomb being dropped-- but that footage was video of test detonations. We never actually used it, though we certainly put out word that we might.

We just did. Possibly in retaliation for a Green Beret's recent death there.

The bomb weights 21,000 pounds.

The second video below shows the test detonation. It has a blast radius of a mile.



Posted by: Ace at 12:45 PM




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1 Boooom!

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (Z7b/F)

2 Boom.

Can the muzzies sue us for this?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (U6f54)

3 Where is everyone?

Posted by: Rosasharn at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (gC288)

4 I told you

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (O2RFr)

5 Bet they felt the shock wave all the way over in North Korea.

Posted by: JPS at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (nDhyQ)

6 This looks like winning. Wonder why O never did this?

/s

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (Z7b/F)

7 *Can the muzzies sue us for this?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (U6f54)*

Only if UA dropped the bomb.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:40 PM (Z7b/F)

8 Big bada boom.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 13, 2017 12:40 PM (9krrF)

9 6 This looks like winning. Wonder why O never did this?

You're joking, right?

Posted by: Weiner's Blackberry at April 13, 2017 12:40 PM (XIYer)

10 I saw Lindsay McStain the Buckingham Mother of
All Bombs @ the Palladium in Dallas 1994

Posted by: Glenn John at April 13, 2017 12:41 PM (LilNs)

11 Hope we killed some tunnel rats

Posted by: Tradd at April 13, 2017 12:41 PM (GSJcT)

12 About damned time.

Not yet tired of winning.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:41 PM (PY9jH)

13
PDT loves him some 'splosions.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:41 PM (5FLKM)

14 Of course Trump just had to be the President that dropped the YUUUGEST bomb we have.

You know that's how it was sold to him by the Generals.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (zcIrz)

15 Gulp...

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (O2RFr)

16 The Russians love those things. I still wonder if on a smaller scale they might be useful as an engine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (39g3+)

17 Did we break shit and win?

...Moar, Pleeze!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (6gk0M)

18 Northeastern Afghanistan is not a fun place. A compound with tunnels would not be fun to assault with ground forces.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (FqgrG)

19 MOAB...They dropped an entire desert...on the desert?

That's pretty badass.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (s/EUv)

20 This is a test. or, to put it in terms Kim-Young'Un can understand: "This test."

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (5JlYa)

21 Coming up at 9 pm: A few thoughts on the problematic gendering of this bomb.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (4bKiB)

22 I love it when a plan comes together.

Posted by: Tall Boy at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (NBHj5)

23 I thought the Ghostbusters remake was the mother of all bombs.

Posted by: Mark1971 at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (xPl2J)

24 Video of a MOAB test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9H50tHiHjs

Big boom.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (/tuJf)

25 Limbaugh talking about it right now.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (6gk0M)

26 Where is everyone?
Posted by: Rosasharn




Eh? What'd you say? I can't hear you. Someone dropped a big assed bomb!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (uh5kC)

27 I would love for the USA to put the final boot to the face of the Taliban/al'Qaeda over there then pull out entirely. We gave you what you need to rebuild, whether you do or not is up to you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (39g3+)

28 Drop one on the one neighborhood in North Korea with street lights.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (eZ0Cd)

29 you know the rulz. Pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (PNcou)

30 What does Ivanka have against tunnels?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (s/EUv)

31 Also: Why not call it the "Momb"? Seems like a missed opportunity.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (4bKiB)

32 I thought the Ghostbusters remake was the mother of all bombs

Now that's funny.... And true...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (O2RFr)

33 America, FUCK YEAH!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (NOIQH)

34
The strike has been 'in the works' for a number of months according to Pentagon spokesman. So predominately peaceful Nobel Prize winner gets the credit?

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (HTdUD)

35 Why link to CNN? Is there no other news outfit covering this?

Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (Enq6K)

36
Many goats were roasted this day, my friend.


Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (5FLKM)

37 Oh... this is a F.O.A.B., according to Rush.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (6gk0M)

38 I think Kim Jong Un just lost his appetite.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (GOL7u)

39 6 This looks like winning. Wonder why O never did this?
/s
Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (Z7b/F)


Because, unlike TFG, Trump means business.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (V4ryl)

40 This will just create more terrorists!

- The News of Tomorrow Today!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (Nwg0u)

41 Most of that will buff out

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (7HtZB)

42 So....can one assume that Trump plans to fulfill his campaign promise to eradicate ISIS?

Because I am more than OK with that.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (NOIQH)

43 Game over. Dean Trump dropped the Big One.

Posted by: Brother Ibn Al-DDay at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (PNcou)

44 Nice nuke facilities you got there, Kim...shame if something was to happen to them.

-Don Trumponi

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (p+Wdc)

45 *You're joking, right?*

Per AoS Style Guide, please note the use of /s.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (Z7b/F)

46 Kim Jong Fun-yun lose his appetite?

Egads!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (s/EUv)

47 I'd love to see the yuuge luxurious crater it left.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (PY9jH)

48

I'm feeling especially peckish today.

Posted by: Carbon Footprint at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (NBHj5)

49 The strike has been 'in the works' for a number of months according to Pentagon spokesman. So predominately peaceful Nobel Prize winner gets the credit?

Sure, except he would never have given the okay...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (O2RFr)

50 I don't see any new terrorists climbing out of the crater.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (eZ0Cd)

51 Now that is gonna leave a mark!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (le7jz)

52 I thought the Ghostbusters remake was the mother of all bombs?

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (OD2ni)

53 Drop one on the one neighborhood in North Korea with street lights.

The only part of town with lights on at night. You know who is there, and it ain't innocents.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (39g3+)

54 Mortimer....Trish Regan on Charles Payne show...her black dress has a leather bodice.

Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (Enq6K)

55 Hope we killed some tunnel rats
Posted by: Tradd


I was under the impression that 'tunnel rats' meant US personnel that went into viet cong tunnel complexes to kill them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (GgzGa)

56 Did Trump file an Environmental Impact statement?

If not? you'll see us in Court...

Posted by: Duh Left....... at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (NgKpN)

57 Anything that gets their attention is okay with me.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (RD7QR)

58
ZOMG WORLD POLICE!!1!!!!1

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (5FLKM)

59 This afternoon Shep will tell us All The Reasons this is wrong.

Then later tonight, Don Lemon will scold Trump.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (PY9jH)

60 30 What does Ivanka have against tunnels?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (s/EUv)
Honey, they get your shoes dirty! And the dirt messes up my manicure!

Posted by: Ivanka Trump, Your Overlord at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (fdyVM)

61 I thought the Ghostbusters remake was el madre of all el bombos?

Posted by: Carlos Mencia at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (39g3+)

62 I'm hoping there's word on the tactical purpose for this, and not just as some symbolic gesture to "send a message" to others.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (TOk1P)

63 Just working out the kinks before Kim gets his special delivery.

Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (2Mnv1)

64 Is FOAB the bomb that has to be dumped out the back of a cargo plane? The mondo duke of all bombs?

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (7HtZB)

65 It weighs nearly as much as the panel on the View.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (eZ0Cd)

66 Hope we killed some tunnel rats

Posted by: Tradd


Pretty sure that as the air in the tunnel is consumed by the explosion outside, that 52 virgins miraculously appear.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (HTdUD)

67 We had that war pretty much over until Choom took office and he gave it back to them. This is why I was against going in there. The Democrats ALWAYS surrender as soon as they get in office.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (mpXpK)

68 >>"This will just create more terrorists!
"
- The News of Tomorrow Today!



Tomorrow's imaginary backlash assaults on America muslims to become the biggest MSM take-away from this bombing in 3..2..1...

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (NOIQH)

69 Crime against humanity.

Posted by: UN at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (fqERy)

70 Rush just said it was an ISIS tunnel. He is usually pretty careful to have his facts correct.

Boom boom bang bang.

Posted by: RM at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (U3LtS)

71 Sounds YUGE!

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (8b+oT)

72 You call that a bomb? Pffft!

Posted by: Shy LeButt, Who Bought That Single Ticket at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (XoldI)

73
Tailwag! It's a tailwag people!

Posted by: MSM bubble heads at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (NBHj5)

74 I want to see the pink mist of ISIS. Can't wait for the combat footage of this.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (Fmupd)

75 Just in time for North Korea's Kim Il-Sung pancake breakfast ceremony.

Might want to rethink that nuke test, boy.

I don't want a goddamn single American soldier on the ground in any of these ventures, but if Trump can use the big stick to achieve results without sending in our troops, I'm cautiously ok with it. Hopefully we can get our troops out entirely and that right soon.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (4ErVI)

76 Is it wrong that this news gave me wood?

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (3qbs3)

77 Oh... this is a F.O.A.B., according to Rush.

You mean T .O. A .B don't you

Posted by: Special snowflake Brigade at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (O2RFr)

78 Trump is just celebrating the Day of the Sun his way.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (yL25O)

79 Mortimer....Trish Regan on Charles Payne show...her black dress has a leather bodice.


Posted by: Tami
===

brb

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (5FLKM)

80 Not just boom, but Ka-BOOM!!

Posted by: Weasel at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (C8aCP)

81 Again I think this is more psyops. Scumbags and tyrants around the world have been making a lot of noise, this is a warning. Remember who we are? The USA? That limp-wristed pansy isn't in charge any more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (39g3+)

82 Wait, I thought the FOAB was the Russian response to the MOAB?

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (fdyVM)

83 All the time our kid was in Afghanistan, he wondered why we never used a MOAB.

In his heart he knew it was because his CiC had a soft spot for the enemy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (PY9jH)

84 You call that a bomb? Pffft!
Posted by: Shy LeButt,
-------------

*wave captured flag*

Posted by: 4 Chan dudes at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (ZO497)

85 Wow, this unepxected development sure is a victory for Isis.

Posted by: NYT editorial board at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (KUaJL)

86 That's a lot bigger than Hillary's planned election night fireworks show.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (8b+oT)

87 64 Is FOAB the bomb that has to be dumped out the back of a cargo plane? The mondo duke of all bombs?

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (7HtZB)

Yeah. The South Vietnamese dropped one on the NVA during the final invasion.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (4ErVI)

88 >>I'm hoping there's word on the tactical purpose for this, and not just
as some symbolic gesture to "send a message" to others.



Well, we know it's not Obama's "Just muscular enough to not be mocked".

Mattis doesn't strike me as someone who sends symbolic messages and then goes home.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (NOIQH)

89 Trump is spending more money on one bomb than obama did in eight years.....Impeach him!!!!!!

Posted by: The Media at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (le7jz)

90 30 What does Ivanka have against tunnels?

====

LOL

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (5FLKM)

91 My boner had a small 'splosion.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (6gk0M)

92 O/T, because I got willowed:

I know that. But what does the term mean? I have never seen a definition that wasn't a bunch of mush.



Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (eAZVt)


My own answer would be that the term, of course, derives from the movie's title, which has two meanings: it reflects that the prevalent form of lighting in 1880 (when the movie takes place) was gas and that, in the movie, in order to drive his wife insane, the leading man fiddles with the gaslight in the house, making it glow bright or dim with no apparent reason.

So, because of that, the term "gaslighting" came into common use as shorthand for someone telling you that what you clearly, rationally perceive is completely wrong - and that you are the only one who believes what you believe.

I'm no JamesMadison, but does that help?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (X6fMO)

93 In his heart he knew it was because his CiC had a soft spot for the enemy.

***

In the same sense that a junkie has a soft spot for heroin.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (3qbs3)

94 Big boom.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (/tuJf)


That is indeed impressive.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (V4ryl)

95 We haven't had any good war pron in a while.

I really want to see footage of this.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (PY9jH)

96 That's a lot bigger than Hillary's planned election night fireworks show.

I still enjoy the fact she had to cancel that!

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (O2RFr)

97 65 It weighs nearly as much as the panel on the View.
=============

I'm not opposed to dropping one on that coven.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (vg8iE)

98 TOAB must stand for Trump...something clever that I'd write if I were caffeinated.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (gTQoY)

99 I used to be a FOAB, now I'm a MOAB

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (7HtZB)

100 Boom goes the dynamite.

When Trump says bomb the shit out of someone, I guess he means it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (GX63o)

101
Fuk Mi

Posted by: Kim Jung Un at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)

102 Wow, this unexpected development sure is a victory for Isis.

Posted by: NYT editorial board


Absolutely. A recruitment tool if there ever was one.

Posted by: The MSM at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (HTdUD)

103 That's a lot bigger than Hillary's planned election night fireworks show.




Now THAT was the bomb!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (uh5kC)

104 Just in: US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan
___
Wow, did you just hear that idiot Spicer said America isn't using WMDs in Afghanistan? What an idiot!

Posted by: The FSM at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (eSx+E)

105 I really want to see footage of this.

***

Oh HELLS yeah!

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (3qbs3)

106 Has Christiane Amanpour blamed Israel yet?

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (5FLKM)

107 It's been so long since we've had an alpha male as CiC.

Winning.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (PY9jH)

108 I don't want a goddamn single American soldier on
the ground in any of these ventures, but if Trump can use the big stick
to achieve results without sending in our troops, I'm cautiously ok with
it. Hopefully we can get our troops out entirely and that right soon. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (4ErVI)
=====

Never understood why we had troops there, even Russia gave it up as a lost cause. If the Afghanis want to live in the 7th C, then go right ahead and let them. They are not worth a single US life.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (MIKMs)

109 Kevin Costner must have been in it.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (eZ0Cd)

110 MOAB henceforth shall be referred to as The Trump Card.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (GX63o)

111 Oh, I thought MOAB stood for "Mother of All Booties".

You know, as in that girl in college whose other nickname was "Ass for Days"; the one you and three guys could probably set up a card table with a pony keg underneath on her ass and have a decent card game. Gave new meaning to the "Freshmen 15 [pounds]" and/or Sophomore Sixty [pounds]" that was so common a development in the fairer sex in college.

It's cool that it's actually a bomb thing, instead.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (zKIA2)

112 The strike has been 'in the works' for a number of months according to Pentagon spokesman. So predominately peaceful Nobel Prize winner gets the credit?

Sure, except he would never have given the okay...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 12:44 PM (O2RFr)


If whoever it was (can't remember who) as Sec Def is to be believed, they had to do an end-around ValJar just to get approval for the strike against Bin Laden.

So yeah, I'm guessing the Pentagon was working on all sorts of plans they knew would never be approved by Team VJ.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (TOk1P)

113
You know who else dropped bombs?

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (5FLKM)

114 Video or it didn't happen!

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (3qbs3)

115 Wow, this unexpected development sure is a victory for Isis.

Posted by: NYT editorial board

Absolutely. A recruitment tool if there ever was one.
Posted by: The MSM at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (HTdUD)


So much room in their salary cap now for next year.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (yL25O)

116 These fuel-air bombs will turn your internals into jelly a klick away from the detonation. Most excellent.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (fqERy)

117 Rush just said it was an ISIS tunnel
***
So, uh, Obama was slightly off in claiming he had ISIS on the run?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 13, 2017 12:51 PM (eSx+E)

118 That is utterly ruthless.

Posted by: Boaz at April 13, 2017 12:51 PM (7T8jT)

119 People a good ways away suffocate after surviving the blast.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:51 PM (eZ0Cd)

120 So, uh, Obama was slightly off in claiming he had ISIS on the run?

***

Fuck "on the run."

"In the ground" is where we want them.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:51 PM (3qbs3)

121 59 This afternoon Shep will tell us All The Reasons this is wrong.


But what about the plight of the endangered Afghani sand mouse!



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:51 PM (s/EUv)

122 I thought the Ghostbusters remake was the mother of all bombs

Now that's funny.... And true...
Posted by: It's Me donna

Ahem...hic...

Posted by: I'm with Her! at April 13, 2017 12:51 PM (326rv)

123 It was a F.O...

It was M.O.A...

Goddamned Daisy Cutter, I guess.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (6gk0M)

124 MOAB henceforth shall be referred to as The Trump Card.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (GX63o)


I like! All our bombs should have "Trump" painted on them. Classy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

125 >>I'm hoping there's word on the tactical purpose for this, and not just
as some symbolic gesture to "send a message" to others.

Fox is reporting that it was dropped on an area that contains a network of ISIS tunnels and there were lots of ISIS fighters gathered in the area.

Sounds pretty tactical to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (/tuJf)

126
If whoever it was (can't remember who) as Sec Def is to be
believed, they had to do an end-around ValJar just to get approval for
the strike against Bin Laden.
***
The CIA analyst that found Osama claims that she spent a year arguing with the Obama administration and her higher ups to get them to do anything about it.

In fact, IIRC, she was shocked he was still there when Obama finally ok'd a strike.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (eSx+E)

127 116 These fuel-air bombs will turn your internals into jelly a klick away from the detonation. Most excellent.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (fqERy)


Is it a fuel-air bomb?

I thought we hadn't figured out a foolproof way to actually do that yet.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (yL25O)

128 I remember the original MOAB test. I bet most of the reporters think it actually stands for Mother of All Bombs too. Rather than Massive Ordnance Air Burst.

Posted by: buzzion at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (cAnNx)

129 People a good ways away suffocate after surviving the blast.

So be prepared for the dragging out of "innocent" civilian victims...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (O2RFr)

130 Pretty sure that as the air in the tunnel is consumed by the explosion outside, that 52 virgins miraculously appear.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (HTdUD)


Wait, isn't that number supposed to be 72?

I guess the missing 20 are still out shopping for shoes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (V4ryl)

131 I like! All our bombs should have "Trump" painted on them. Classy.

***

No.

"You're fired."

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (3qbs3)

132 I like! All our bombs should have "Schlonged" painted on them. Classy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

----

FIFY

Posted by: Kim Jung Un at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (8XRCm)

133 MOAB henceforth shall be referred to as The Trump Card.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (GX63o)

I like! All our bombs should have "Trump" painted on them. Classy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh



And painted gold.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (uh5kC)

134 That escalated quickly.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (hLRSq)

135 This just gave me the Mother Of All Boners.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (0mRoj)

136
grumble grumble sock grumble grumble

Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (8XRCm)

137 "For a number of months"

Your lucky number's two.

Posted by: geoffb5 at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (d3wbb)

138 "I like! All our bombs should have "Trump" painted on them. Classy."
-Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

Yuge

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (6gk0M)

139 So, uh, Obama was slightly off in claiming he had ISIS on the run?

It was every bit as accurate as saying Syria had zero chemical weapons left. This is what was meant by "alternate truth" as awkward as a phrase as it was.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (39g3+)

140 It's about damn time.

Go Donald!

Posted by: ALH at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (uLuPn)

141 So, uh, Obama was slightly off in claiming he had ISIS on the run?
===============

He ran them right into the tunnels!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (vg8iE)

142 >>So be prepared for the dragging out of "innocent" civilian victims...


Kinda like the women shot in the "failed" Yemen raid?
The women who were shooting at our guys...

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (NOIQH)

143 Sounds pretty tactical to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (/tuJf)


Heh. I'm thinking that if the tactical is big enough, it can't help but being strategic.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (V4ryl)

144 127 116 These fuel-air bombs will turn your internals into jelly a klick away from the detonation. Most excellent.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (fqERy)

Is it a fuel-air bomb?

I thought we hadn't figured out a foolproof way to actually do that yet.
Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (yL25O)

Sounds like we proved it on those ISIS fools.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (7HtZB)

145 People a good ways away suffocate after surviving the blast.
Posted by: Boss Moss
-----------
Once again, Trump using up all of the oxygen in the room.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (ZO497)

146 It was every bit as accurate as saying Syria had zero chemical weapons left.

***

Or Iraq, for that matter.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (3qbs3)

147 "Mattis doesn't strike me as someone who sends symbolic messages and then goes home."

Heh.

Posted by: RM at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (U3LtS)

148 Rush just said it was an ISIS tunnel

----

WAS

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (PNcou)

149 Jeezuz FOX just now seems to discover where the troops have been---since Obama.

Trump has to yadda, yadda... tell people why he's finally protecting the troops Obama put in the theater.


Remember ISIS did the Paris attack and they just bombed the soccer team in Germany--most likely---leaving a letter that demanded that the Germans stop flying their recon jet the tornado over ISIS held areas in Syria and--

close Ramstein AFB.

(ya...that's gonna happen/s)

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (fi5nC)

150 Syria had zero chemical weapons left.

I told you I didn't gas those people!

Posted by: Assad the chinless at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (O2RFr)

151 138 "I like! All our bombs should have "Trump" painted on them. Classy."
-Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

Yuge

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (6gk0M)


...and luxurious.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (V4ryl)

152 133 MOAB henceforth shall be referred to as The Trump Card.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (GX63o)

I like! All our bombs should have "Trump" painted on them. Classy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh



And painted gold.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:53 PM (uh5kC)

And have MAGA caps on them.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (7HtZB)

153 Shift 3268 miles east, over 38'47" north. Fire for effect.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (Bdeb0)

154
"Mother of All Bombs" aka "Safe Space Eliminator."

Posted by: YIKES! at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (t6XCL)

155 This will have Code Pink's panties in a twist.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (PY9jH)

156 Prepare to be grabbed, pussies.

Posted by: GBU-43/B at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (FqgrG)

157 The UN should have sent a strongly worded telegram.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (eZ0Cd)

158 Wonder why W never authorized this.

Posted by: Robert Jenks at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (nNzqG)

159 Wonder why W never authorized this.

***

Oooh! Ooh! I know!

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (3qbs3)

160 So, uh, Obama was slightly off in claiming he had ISIS on the run?

It was every bit as accurate as saying Syria had zero chemical weapons left. This is what was meant by "alternate truth" as awkward as a phrase as it was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
---------

Well, he didn't mean literally, because if he had meant literally, he would have said 'literally'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (ZO497)

161 I approve of this explosion.

Posted by: Megumin at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (rUIbB)

162 How does the incendiary nature of the MOAB work against a tunnel complex? Would the blast blow out all the oxygen leaving a vacuum?

Just wondering if it's the right tool for the job, while understanding that people who do know chose this tool.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (z79tQ)

163
Wonder why W never authorized this.

Posted by: Robert Jenks at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (nNzqG)


I'd love someone on The Five to ask Dana Perino that very question.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (PY9jH)

164 Small hands, 21,000-lb. cock.

"Everything down there is working perfectly fine, I promise you that."

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (Bdeb0)

165 You dropped a bomb on me.

Posted by: The Gap Goat at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (vtcmf)

166 Mother Of All Bigly

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (0mRoj)

167 I like! All our bombs should have "Trump" painted on them. Classy.

***

No.

"You're fired."
Posted by: clint flicker

This. Threadwinner?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2017 12:57 PM (326rv)

168 Why not a bunker buster?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:57 PM (eZ0Cd)

169 >>Never understood why we had troops there, even Russia gave it up as a lost cause. If the Afghanis want to live in the 7th C, then go right ahead and let them. They are not worth a single US life.

Last time we ignored the gathering storm in Afghanistan we lost 3000 lives. It would be a huge mistake to pretend that if we ignore terrorists who have sworn to attack us they won't. They will.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 12:57 PM (/tuJf)

170 Pfft. Just wait until the Father of All Bombs shows up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 12:57 PM (ZO497)

171 How does the incendiary nature of the MOAB work against a tunnel complex? Would the blast blow out all the oxygen leaving a vacuum?




The burning uses up all available oxygen?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:57 PM (uh5kC)

172 I'm watching The Pioneer Woman because I'm going to make pancakes for everyone.

Some can haz bacon. All can haz maple syrup.

I'll call you when they're ready.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:57 PM (6gk0M)

173 *That is utterly ruthless.
Posted by: Boaz at April 13, 2017 12:51 PM (7T8jT)*

ISWYDT

Slow golf clap.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:58 PM (Z7b/F)

174 65 It weighs nearly as much as the panel on the View.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (eZ0Cd)

lol I was going to say that it weighs nearly as much as Kim Jong-Un, but yours is better.

Posted by: sinalco at April 13, 2017 12:58 PM (yODqO)

175 The people in the stupid box are saying that the concussion would destroy the tunnels and kill anything in them FWIW.

Posted by: GBU-43/B at April 13, 2017 12:58 PM (FqgrG)

176 This is not who we are! This is not what we do!
In protest, I will remain in Tahiti for another month!

Posted by: AKA Barry Soetoro at April 13, 2017 12:58 PM (qJhUV)

177 Because the Bush's are fur oiled pussies?

And Chris Wallace can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (fqERy)

Posted by: ISIS at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (5FLKM)

179 You know who else dropped bombs?

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (5FLKM)


Barack Obama.

Every day for eight straight years.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (zKIA2)

180 Smart military blog.


Without checking, pretty sure a "one mile radius" is not the area with a high damage expectancy. It's much smaller than that - though the actual area may depend on elevation of the burst, and local weather and terrain conditions.


Anyway, a quibble - still a pretty nice boom.


Oh - and not really something that would be relevant against the Norks - these devices are dropped from cargo aircraft in "permissive" air defense environments, that is, areas without much or any air defense.


North Korea is one of the few examples of the opposite of "permissive" air defense environment.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (L7t0A)

181 cue Pat Travers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsClj04oIE

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (wIatL)

182 162 How does the incendiary nature of the MOAB work against a tunnel complex? Would the blast blow out all the oxygen leaving a vacuum?

Just wondering if it's the right tool for the job, while understanding that people who do know chose this tool.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (z79tQ)

**************

I dunno--maybe it has more --downward thrust.


A blast isn't two dimensional--most likely--in this case.

it probably penetrates which then would reduce the blast radius.

The test was probably done in a different manner and in a different environment--so...there are variables that would change the outcomes.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (fi5nC)

183 The people in the stupid box are saying that the concussion would destroy the tunnels and kill anything in them FWIW.

Posted by: GBU-43/B at April 13, 2017 12:58 PM (FqgrG)


Duh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (PY9jH)

184 And Chris Wallace can eat a bag of dicks.

And I do

Posted by: Chris Wallace at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (O2RFr)

185 Size comparison of biggest bombs - text is in some made-up Pollack language.

http://blisty.cz/files/2007/10/29/tab1.gif

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (7HtZB)

186 144 127 116 These fuel-air bombs will turn your internals into jelly a klick away from the detonation. Most excellent.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (fqERy)

Is it a fuel-air bomb?

I thought we hadn't figured out a foolproof way to actually do that yet.
Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (yL25O)

Sounds like we proved it on those ISIS fools.
Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (7HtZB)

The MOAB carries a mixture of TNT and powdered aluminum.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)

187 *meh* She's all Herb Garden today.

Leaves me moar time to make Pancakes for The Horde.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (6gk0M)

188 OK folks... time to clear some shit up....

The Trump admin is talking about the opioid epidemic in the US...

Now... just where is all that coming from? who is the worlds leading producer of Opium?

Would that be a country we OWNED a few years? one we had taken over? but continued to allow them to use opium as their cash crop?

Posted by: Don Q. at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (NgKpN)

189 In protest, I will remain in Tahiti for another month!


Posted by: AKA Barry Soetoro at April 13, 2017 12:58 PM (qJhUV)


Promise? Cross your heart and hope to die?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (hLRSq)

190 Surely Water World was larger.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (eZ0Cd)

191 That MOAB cratered better than Amy Schumer's career.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (uh5kC)

192 Hitting a valid ISIS target you were going to hit anyway but doing it in a way that attracts attention and sends a message to the fat boy in Pyongyang: That for me is the definition of winning.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (fdyVM)

193 Oh - and not really something that would be relevant against the Norks - these devices are dropped from cargo aircraft in "permissive" air defense environments, that is, areas without much or any air defense.

********

Are you doggin' the C-130!?

How dare you sir!

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (fi5nC)

194 Any idea how many of these MOABs we have ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (lsPk8)

195 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (GwIKd)

196 Oh - and not really something that would be relevant against the Norks - these devices are dropped from cargo aircraft in "permissive" air defense environments, that is, areas without much or any air defense.


North Korea is one of the few examples of the opposite of "permissive" air defense environment.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (L7t0A)

How about Tahiti?

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (7HtZB)

197 $hit just got real.

Posted by: Kim Jong Il at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (le7jz)

198 Who Needs Syrup?!?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (6gk0M)

199 Looks like MOAB may have hit the DJIA.

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (aVY3U)

200 198 Who Needs Syrup?!?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (6gk0M)

Some prefer syrup, I like to use jelly.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (0mRoj)

201 Oh - and not really something that would be relevant against the Norks - these devices are dropped from cargo aircraft in "permissive" air defense environments, that is, areas without much or any air defense.


North Korea is one of the few examples of the opposite of "permissive" air defense environment.
Posted by: rhomboid

Well thank you, little Fanny Funsucker.

You are of course, quite right.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (326rv)

202 Nice little mushroom cloud on FBN. Not sure if it's the real thing.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (uKRys)

203 >>Just wondering if it's the right tool for the job, while understanding that people who do know chose this tool.


I like to think of it as an opening bid, like how Trump always opens by demanding 3x more than what he wants...

His opening bid to ISIS: I'm willing to use my worst non-nuclear bomb on you, what have you got?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (NOIQH)

204 I'm hoping there's word on the tactical purpose for this, and not just
as some symbolic gesture to "send a message" to others.

-----------------------

Well, we know it's not Obama's "Just muscular enough to not be mocked".

Mattis doesn't strike me as someone who sends symbolic messages and then goes home.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (NOIQH)


Last I heard Mattis was focusing a lot of his attention on combating Globull Warmening, so I don't know what to think about him.

I'm think though, with everyone saying our little missile strike in Syria last week was about sending a message, if this was part of the same decision making process here.

And of course we all know, Trump doesn't decide this stuff. His lil princess daughter does.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (TOk1P)

205 so if 8 ISIS survived, we're going to have to call it a victory for them

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (PNcou)

206 199 Looks like MOAB may have hit the DJIA.
Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (aVY3U)

************

Buy.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (fi5nC)

207
How does the incendiary nature of the MOAB work against a tunnel complex? Would the blast blow out all the oxygen leaving a vacuum?

Yes plus the pressure from the blast will collapse tunnels

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (lKyWE)

208 I just sent this thread to our son. Can't wait to hear what he and his vet buddies have to say.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (PY9jH)

209 Now... just where is all that coming from? who is the worlds leading producer of Opium?

----

Glaxo-Smith-Kline ???

Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (8XRCm)

210 >>>>Any idea how many of these MOABs we have ?
.
.
.I would bet we don't have more than a couple of dozen in the inventory.

Posted by: The Great Whit Scotsman at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (le7jz)

211 191 That MOAB cratered better than Amy Schumer's career.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (uh5kC)

-------

But not like the sidewalk she walks on.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (7HtZB)

212 I thought the Ghostbusters remake was the mother of all bombs

Read yesterday's article about how Hollywood deliberately adjusts down profits.

The girl Ghostbusters could be one of the biggest box office hits of all time. Get woke!

Posted by: Leslie Jones at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (7T8jT)

213 The MOAB carries a mixture of TNT and powdered aluminum.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)


So its like Torpex then.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (hLRSq)

214 "The CIA analyst that found Osama claims that she spent a year arguing with the Obama administration and her higher ups to get them to do anything about it."

It's in the movie Zero Dark Thirty, although it doesn't expressly point the finger at Obama and ValJar. The Jessica Chastain CIA analyst character makes a point of months going by with no action being taken.

As I understand it, ValJar didn't want to take the risk of failure because of what happened to Carter's failed operation to rescue the hostages in Iran. So Podesta finally gave the order and would have taken the blame if it failed

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (SIY7D)

215 Stocks are on sale.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (eZ0Cd)

216 92
O/T, because I got willowed:



I know that. But what does the term mean? I have never seen a definition that wasn't a bunch of mush.







Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (eAZVt)



My own answer would be that the term, of course, derives from the
movie's title, which has two meanings: it reflects that the prevalent
form of lighting in 1880 (when the movie takes place) was gas and that,
in the movie, in order to drive his wife insane, the leading man fiddles
with the gaslight in the house, making it glow bright or dim with no
apparent reason.



So, because of that, the term "gaslighting" came into common use as
shorthand for someone telling you that what you clearly, rationally
perceive is completely wrong - and that you are the only one who believes what you believe.



I'm no JamesMadison, but does that help?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (X6fMO)

The term gaslighting is specifically from the play ( later turned into the movie with Ingrid Bergman and a super duper evil performance by Charles Boyer) in which the evil husband was trying to convince his wife that she is crazy so she would kill herself and he could carry on his evilness. The "gaslighting" part was because Boyer would sneak out of their rooms to the apartment upstairs where a wealthy widow had been murdered - but the murderer (Boyer) never recovered the jewels and was searching for them, and in doing so would turn on and turn off gas lights causing them to flicker where Ingrid was hanging out - when she asks about the flickering gaslights he says she is imagining it and is "crazy." Et voila one of the first non-internet memes was born.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (Fb9aZ)

217 Boom mutha fuckers

Posted by: Yo! at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (GwIKd)

218 The MOAB carries a mixture of TNT and powdered aluminum.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor

So kinda like a rocket propellant gone in all directions?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2017 01:03 PM (326rv)

219 I keep reading about the "Opiod Epidemic," but the people I keep reading it from are responsible for BS claims about epidemics and crises in the past, created by doctoring stats and listening to activists, so I'm skeptical.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 01:03 PM (39g3+)

220 "Some prefer syrup, I like to use jelly."
-Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (0mRoj)

I've got jelly, Amigo!

Strawberry or grape, because THERE ARE NO OTHER TYPES OF JELLY.

...period.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:03 PM (6gk0M)

221 Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (0mRoj)


So its like Torpex then.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (hLRSq)

A feminine hygiene product? I think not.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:03 PM (0mRoj)

222 What? No thermite?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (eZ0Cd)

223 220 "Some prefer syrup, I like to use jelly."
-Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (0mRoj)

I've got jelly, Amigo!

Strawberry or grape, because THERE ARE NO OTHER TYPES OF JELLY.

...period.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:03 PM (6gk0M)

Heh. It was actually a reference to a somewhat gross video interview with a prison inmate...

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (0mRoj)

224 188
OK folks... time to clear some shit up....



The Trump admin is talking about the opioid epidemic in the US...



Now... just where is all that coming from? who is the worlds leading producer of Opium?



Would that be a country we OWNED a few years? one we had taken over?
but continued to allow them to use opium as their cash crop?

Posted by: Don Q. at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (NgKpN)

Maybe not anymore.

Posted by: MOAB at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (XoldI)

225 Lil Kim: We're bring shit we haven't even tested yet!
Love,
The Donald

Posted by: Strobe at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (gbWkA)

226 Stocks are on sale.


They get a bit skittish when stuff like this and the Norks happen...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (O2RFr)

227 Heh - oops sorry about the margins - hope I am not embarrelled for that one - now as to Trump dropping the big one: Meh - as long as some sand-monkey terrorists got reduced to particles - I am OK with it.

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (Fb9aZ)

228 So kinda like a rocket propellant gone in all directions?

Basically. The principle is the same one when a wheat silo blows up, or when you used to burn non-dairy creamer in college at the cafeteria table. Air plus very fine powder = very flammable, even explosive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (39g3+)

229 "What? No thermite?"
-Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (eZ0Cd)

Not on pancakes. Not after "The Incident".

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (6gk0M)

230 "Some prefer syrup, I like to use jelly."
-Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (0mRoj)

I've got jelly, Amigo!

Strawberry or grape, because THERE ARE NO OTHER TYPES OF JELLY.

...period.

---

who's got the marmelade?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (PNcou)

231 Frank J.'s/IMAO "Nuke the Moon" strategy in early phases...

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (laQYo)

232 "Opiod Epidemic,"

The death toll from overdoses has been climbing exponentially. It's now a higher rate than auto fatalities.

So it's not BS

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (SIY7D)

233 Who Needs Syrup?!?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:01 PM (6gk0M)

Not me.

Posted by: Guy Buried Up To His Neck Near An Anthill at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (TOk1P)

234 Asswipe columnist says Kellyanne Conway is "the darkness"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/262420/

Posted by: steevy at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (r/0kC)

235 Don't want to get too far ahead of things on this, but I've never really bought this concept that any show of force on our part translates into a recruitment program for terrorists.

I know they serve a higher power of the religion of peace, but I cannot imagine that ISIS recruiting offices are swamped this afternoon.

Posted by: RM at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (U3LtS)

236 I'm OK with this, MOAR Please.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (hMqvx)

237 197 $hit just got real.

Posted by: Kim Jong Il at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (le7jz)

Maybe you can use Ouija board to tell Honorable Son to cancel Honorable Grandpa's picnic ceremony or MOAB bomb will fall on your grave.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (4ErVI)

238

Is it a fuel-air bomb?

I thought we hadn't figured out a foolproof way to actually do that yet.
Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (yL25O)


---------------

We've had fuel-air bombs since Vietnam.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2017 01:06 PM (Fmupd)

239 "Xi, just make sure you've got a good seat. And bring sunglasses, bigly."

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 01:06 PM (Bdeb0)

240 "Heh. It was actually a reference to a somewhat gross video interview with a prison inmate..."
-Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:04 PM (0mRoj)

I was...

I was talking about that.

*looks around*

Moar Pancakes!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:06 PM (6gk0M)

241 One bomb to destroy the compound and anything underneath it. Trumps just being economical.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 01:06 PM (FqgrG)

242 21,000 lbs.! Like dropping 10 Rosies on them!

She's a pig who likes a cake. Not a slice, but the whole cake. Because she's overweight.

Posted by: spongeworthy at April 13, 2017 01:06 PM (mrfTe)

243 Bunker Buster vs. MOAB - I'll take the BB.

MOABers are all fags.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 13, 2017 01:06 PM (SP6Ke)

244 The MOAB carries a mixture of TNT and powdered aluminum.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor

So kinda like a rocket propellant gone in all directions?
Posted by: Blue Hen


No, that's high explosive.

You don't want high explosive fuel for rocket propellant.

It tends to ruin your planned trajectory.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 01:06 PM (GgzGa)

245 Who Needs Syrup?!?

Posted by: Slapweasel

I hate you people.

Posted by: zombie Rachel Corrie at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (326rv)

246 North Korea is one of the few examples of the opposite of "permissive" air defense environment.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 13, 2017 12:59 PM (L7t0A)

***

at the moment

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (5JlYa)

247 "Opiod Epidemic,"

The death toll from overdoses has been climbing exponentially. It's now a higher rate than auto fatalities.

So it's not BS

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (SIY7D)


No, not bs, but the heroin problem is dwarfed by the prescription opioid (oxy, etc.) problem.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (TOk1P)

248 Meh - as long as some sand-monkey terrorists got reduced to particles - I am OK with it.

Same here ... don't see how this "escalates" anything. If some terrorists die ... great.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (BEMJs)

249 Afghanistan is already a wasteland. If this bomb was really dropped there, how could you tell?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (7T8jT)

250 I was at Eglin AFB when they tested it.

There isn't going to be a ton of civilian casualties.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (fi5nC)

251 The death toll from overdoses has been climbing exponentially. It's now a higher rate than auto fatalities.

Yeah but consider the source. I just don't buy what I'm told these days without a ton of evidence. For good reason, after 5 decades of experience with the news media.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (39g3+)

252 The hysteria is unreal.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (fi5nC)

253 This has to be only part of the CNN coverage, wait until they do the "fact check". Probably a baby milk factory or aspirin factory.

Posted by: Colin at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (RS7vk)

254 So kinda like a rocket propellant gone in all directions?
Posted by: Blue Hen

No, that's high explosive.

You don't want high explosive fuel for rocket propellant.

It tends to ruin your planned trajectory.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

I said that because I thought that some solid fuel rockets used powdered aluminium.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (326rv)

255 I'm starting to get the impression that this Trump fellow is not fucking around.

P.S. How many goat fuckers down?

Posted by: DanInMN at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (h5ffp)

256 219 I keep reading about the "Opiod Epidemic," but the people I keep reading it from are responsible for BS claims about epidemics and crises in the past, created by doctoring stats and listening to activists, so I'm skeptical.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 01:03 PM (39g3+)

I deal with it everyday. It's real.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (jl269)

257 The bomb did nearly $32 in damage.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (eZ0Cd)

258 235 Don't want to get too far ahead of things on this, but I've never really bought this concept that any show of force on our part translates into a recruitment program for terrorists.

I know they serve a higher power of the religion of peace, but I cannot imagine that ISIS recruiting offices are swamped this afternoon.

Posted by: RM at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (U3LtS)

You know what serves as a recruitment tool? Having our soldiers standing around over there with ridiculous ROE.

It's fun to kill Americans when they have to fight with one arm tied behind their backs.

Hopefully these shows of strength from Donald mean the boys are coming home soon.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (4ErVI)

259 A feminine hygiene product? I think not.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:03 PM (0mRoj)


Torpedo explosive. One of the most powerful non-atomic military explosive. Contains 42% RDX, 40% TNT, 18% powdered aluminum.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (hLRSq)

260 Who Needs Syrup?!?

Posted by: Slapweasel

I hate you people.

Posted by: zombie Rachel Corrie at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (326rv)


We knew that already, fake pancake girl.

We knew that by the vicious look on your face as you were burning the U.S. flag among your muzzie friends.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (TOk1P)

261 Yeah, I must say I'm pretty much down with look we don't want to come back over there on the ground so we're going to all but nuke you to see if you get the point.

Bombs are more renewable than soldiers.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (mf5HN)

262 232 "Opiod Epidemic,"

The death toll from overdoses has been climbing exponentially. It's now a higher rate than auto fatalities.

So it's not BS
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (SIY7D)

I honestly don't know how to feel about this. Aside from people who get hooked on opioids in the course of actual pain treatment, I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for recreational drug users who OD. Maybe I'm just a heartless dick on this particular subject.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (0mRoj)

263 The MOAB carries a mixture of TNT and powdered aluminum.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor


I'll bet they didn't forget the aluminum.

Posted by: Walter White at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (XoldI)

264 Afghanistan is already a wasteland. If this bomb was really dropped there, how could you tell?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

Blow our goats.

Posted by: Kabul Chamber of Commerce at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (326rv)

265 MOAB - 30' 1.75", 40.05 dia, 22,600 lbs. of which 18,700 lb are high explosives. Blast radius is 450 feet. Shock wave can destroy up to 9 city blocks.

Per Wikisnap.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (uh5kC)

266 I'm sorry to correct you, but I believe you mean "the second largest non-nuclear bomb after Obamacare."

Posted by: drmrbadman at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (cfjq1)

267 >>"Xi, just make sure you've got a good seat. And bring sunglasses, bigly."

I wonder if Xi's wife's name is Xer?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (/tuJf)

268 The bomb did nearly $32 in damage.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (eZ0Cd)


I bounced a little.

Posted by: Barney Rubble at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (TOk1P)

269 What does Ivanka have against tunnels?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (s/EUv)



They were just about to open a Nordstrom's there

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (493sH)

270 Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (z79tQ)

It's not a fuel-air bomb.

It's a high-explosive bomb.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (rF0hx)

271 Torpedo explosive. One of the most powerful non-atomic military explosive. Contains 42% RDX, 40% TNT, 18% powdered aluminum.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (hLRSq)

I was just being intentionally stupid.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (0mRoj)

272 >>>"Opiod Epidemic,"



The death toll from overdoses has been climbing exponentially. It's now a higher rate than auto fatalities.



So it's not BS
.
.
.Before we moved from Kentucky last year the State was passing out Narcan pens for Heroin overdoses to high Schools. Every Cop and Ambulance crew there also carry them now. The overdoses from Heroin are going through the roof there.

Posted by: The Great Whit Scotsman at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (le7jz)

273 How many did the Japs drop on Detroit?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (eZ0Cd)

274 187 *meh* She's all Herb Garden today.

Hey, I used to live next door to Herb, and his wife Rose.

Nice people.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (s/EUv)

275 Same here ... don't see how this "escalates" anything. If some terrorists die ... great.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (BEMJs)

Yep. Pretty sure the radicals didn't want to kill us any less yesterday than today.

Posted by: Golfman at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (yxVpR)

276 251 The death toll from overdoses has been climbing exponentially. It's now a higher rate than auto fatalities.

Yeah but consider the source. I just don't buy what I'm told these days without a ton of evidence. For good reason, after 5 decades of experience with the news media.

===================

And 20,000 children go to bed every night, hungry.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (vg8iE)

277 Dropping bombs on manlove Thursday. That's A-level work.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (igd3d)

278 Bombs are more renewable than soldiers.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (mf5HN)


You're smart and stuff ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (BEMJs)

Posted by: Ruth at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (RR9wF)

280 I was just being intentionally stupid.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:10 PM (0mRoj)


I accomplish that naturally!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (hLRSq)

281 Burka, Burka, Jihad?

Posted by: Strobe at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (gbWkA)

282 I honestly don't know how to feel about this. Aside from people who get hooked on opioids in the course of actual pain treatment, I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for recreational drug users who OD. Maybe I'm just a heartless dick on this particular subject.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (0mRoj)


My problem has always been 1) the crime that results from these people trying to pay for their habit, and 2) the children who are left orphaned or feral by parents too high to care for them. Both create problems for society at large.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (Tnhbr)

283 >>You know what serves as a recruitment tool? Having our soldiers standing around over there with ridiculous ROE.

"Kill everything taller than an oxcart's linchpin." -- Genghis Khan

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (Bdeb0)

284 I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for
recreational drug users who OD. Maybe I'm just a heartless dick on this
particular subject.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (0mRoj)

I feel the same way.

Don't want to die of an OD? Don't take the drugs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (rF0hx)

285 Now... just where is all that coming from? who is the worlds leading producer of Opium?


----


Glaxo-Smith-Kline ??? Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (8XRCm)
=====

At no cost to you! A pain-relieving [insert product] at no cost to you if you have the red-white-and blue card.

Actually, to hear pharmacy clerks talk, at least half of my small town is on some kind of prescription.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (MIKMs)

286 "Opiod Epidemic,"

The death toll from overdoses has been climbing exponentially. It's now a higher rate than auto fatalities.

So it's not BS
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 01:05 PM (SIY7D)

I honestly don't know how to feel about this. Aside from people who get hooked on opioids in the course of actual pain treatment, I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for recreational drug users who OD. Maybe I'm just a heartless dick on this particular subject.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (0mRoj)


Here's the motherflippin' truth of the matter: As hard as it sounds to say, the problem with the opioid epidemic is NOT the nitwits who overdose and die.

It's the users who manage to stay alive.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (TOk1P)

287 Bombs are more renewable than soldiers.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (mf5HN)


Says you. Unlock the files for Project Janus!

Posted by: Judge Griffin at April 13, 2017 01:12 PM (0mRoj)

288 Looks like a twofer to me. Kill some bad guys and send a message to Fatso in NK.

Posted by: Conservative In Tahoe at April 13, 2017 01:12 PM (7u0s9)

289 Wonder why W never authorized this.
Posted by: Robert Jenks at April 13, 2017 12:55 PM (nNzqG)

I'd love someone on The Five to ask Dana Perino that very question.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (PY9jH


The narrator of the YouTube video showing the MOAB demo said that by the time MOAB was ready to go, the Iraqi resistance was all but gone. So it was deemed not necessary.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 01:12 PM (V4ryl)

290 I honestly don't know how to feel about this. Aside from people who get hooked on opioids in the course of actual pain treatment, I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for recreational drug users who OD. Maybe I'm just a heartless dick on this particular subject.

===============

I feel the same way. It's not hard to get to the root cause of all this (idle hands and all that), but we don't dare go there....

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 13, 2017 01:12 PM (vg8iE)

291 The Pioneer Woman is making Panzanella salad with naan bread.

*meh*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:12 PM (6gk0M)

292 The opioid epidemic started due to pill mills in places like Florida handing out prescription painkillers for anyone complaining about a sore back.

People get hooked on the pills but they're expensive as fuck so they turn to heroin to get their fix. Stop doing heroin for any reason and go back on it and you often overdose because your tolerance drops quickly.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 01:12 PM (4ErVI)

293 because 'merica Fu#kYeah!

Posted by: USMC8541 at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (NmR1a)

294 282 I honestly don't know how to feel about this. Aside from people who get hooked on opioids in the course of actual pain treatment, I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for recreational drug users who OD. Maybe I'm just a heartless dick on this particular subject.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (0mRoj)

My problem has always been 1) the crime that results from these people trying to pay for their habit, and 2) the children who are left orphaned or feral by parents too high to care for them. Both create problems for society at large.

In the olden days, before nanny gov't, church's would be the place for rehabilitation, care, Christ's love....

Posted by: Ruth at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (RR9wF)

295 Powdered aluminum? I knew my deodorant was dangerous.

Posted by: Strobe at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (gbWkA)

296 Any idea how many of these MOABs we have ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (lsPk

One less than yesterday?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (0deF2)

297 You can't hug your children with MOAB arms.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (/tuJf)

298 Bury them in place, under the rubble, nice move.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (ZQpd0)

299 I deal with the prescription side of the opioid problem . I've had only two overdose deaths in past decade but I have a shitload of prescription junkies on my caseload.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (jl269)

300 Here's the motherflippin' truth of the matter: As hard as it sounds to say, the problem with the opioid epidemic is NOT the nitwits who overdose and die.

It's the users who manage to stay alive.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (TOk1P)



PJ O'Rourke: There are few things calmer than a heroin junkie who has had his fix. Either he's blissed out tripping or he's dead.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:14 PM (mf5HN)

301 The narrator of the YouTube video showing the MOAB demo said that by the time MOAB was ready to go, the Iraqi resistance was all but gone. So it was deemed not necessary.



Why weren't we dropping the BLU-82 up until it was ready?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:14 PM (uh5kC)

302 I don't think W did a lot of vetoing of military ideas in the field, he seemed to set the basic tone and goals of the campaign, then left the details up to the Pentagon, but I may be mistaken.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 01:14 PM (39g3+)

303 Any idea how many of these MOABs we have ?

I read we had 15 in 2003 that were never used?

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 01:14 PM (O2RFr)

304 Remember the quaint old days of the meth epidemic?

It really is a shame that opioids are so good at their job.

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 13, 2017 01:14 PM (9/YlV)

305 I had a friend who overdosed. His other "friends" left him to rot but still took the time to steal his shit and whatever heroin he had stashed around the place.

They didn't call an ambulance. His ex-gf found him about a week later.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (SP6Ke)

306 The MOAB causes a Thermobaric explosion hence a Fuel-air bomb.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (fqERy)

307 I wonder what the MOAB engineer was thinking when he settled on the perfect bomb length of 30' 1 3/4 " ?

Not 30' ... not 31' ... not even 30' 6".

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (BEMJs)

308 >>You can't hug your children with MOAB arms.

And you'd have to hold a yuuuuge bake sale to pay for one....

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (NOIQH)

309 Wiki says the "only known production" of these numbered 15.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (FqgrG)

310 "Won't it be nice when the Air Force has all the MOABs it needs, and schools have to hold a bake sale to pay for gender confusion classes?"

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (Bdeb0)

311 295 Powdered aluminum? I knew my deodorant was dangerous.


You joke, but I'm allergic to the aluminum so it WOULD be dangerous in my case. Well, maybe not *dangerous*, but a nasty rash is no fun.

Thank Gaia for aluminum-free Tom's of Maine antiperspirant.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (s/EUv)

312 Fir the point hasn't already been made above...


This is a twofer.

1) ISIS blowed up real good. US soldier deaths? Zero.

ROE changed bitchez. We're are going to start acting like the Big Dog that we are.


2) Hey Pudgy, you know that tunnel system you got in North Korea?

Watch this.



Thank God Trump won.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (NyJwR)

313 Thinking about this in a more nuanced way, shouldn't Trump have held a press conference to let the media know what was going on beforehand, and to give ISIS freedom fighters a fair chance to clear out of the tunnels?

/s

Posted by: RM at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (U3LtS)

314 >>And you'd have to hold a yuuuuge bake sale to pay for one....

Those are illegal now.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (/tuJf)

315 We used other type bunker buster bombs in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (jl269)

316 It really is a shame that opioids are so good at their job.

I was prescribed Hydrocodone for severe Sciatic nerve damage... Stuff worked... I decided on my own to stop use and the withdrawal was horrible, and I only took a small amount a day...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (O2RFr)

317 The Wheat Gluten Gestapo banned bake sales.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:17 PM (eZ0Cd)

318 265 MOAB - 30' 1.75", 40.05 dia, 22,600 lbs. of which 18,700 lb are high explosives. Blast radius is 450 feet. Shock wave can destroy up to 9 city blocks.

Per Wikisnap.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:09 PM (uh5kC)

***********
Blast radius is 450 feet.

-

Plus it just --should--depend on the environment.


I'm just willing to bet---the terrain at Eglin AFB--ain't the same as Afghanistan.

I don't know why reporters want to already---sell civilian casualties that will recruit more ISIS fighters--sitting stateside --right now.

It's gross journalism--it's speculation, and conjecture.

FOX--is getting --bad here.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:17 PM (fi5nC)

319
Sean Spicer up.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 01:17 PM (HTdUD)

320 Don't get me wrong. I grow my own fresh herbs. I use them often, but she's "Ladymaking" scones and stuff.

I have frosted mugs and ice cubes as amenities at my fiestas.

Scones and Panzanella are Lady-Made shit.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (6gk0M)

321

Spicer just said that we dropped the bomb because Trump just felt like killing someone today. /joke

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (493sH)

322 2) Hey Pudgy, you know that tunnel system you got in North Korea?

Watch this.



Thank God Trump won.
Posted by: naturalfake

Trifecta.

Hey NK; we can deal with you, or your patron, China, can. China doesn't want the US exerting influence over its client states.

Posted by: Kabul Chamber of Commerce at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (326rv)

323 Read an interview with a German soldier from WWII who claimed he worked on a Nazi FAE, and nearly used it on our forces in Normandy. Luckily, their set-up was hit by artillery, and the whole thing just went up in a big fire. They made theirs with kerosene, coal dust, and powdered aluminum.

No idea if the guy was telling the truth, but it's a hell of a story.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (wKLtz)

324 Some C-130 jockey will be talking smack to the B-52 boys tonight

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (PNcou)

325 Did they do an environmental impact study first?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (eZ0Cd)

326 And you'd have to hold a yuuuuge bake sale to pay for one....



Those are illegal now.

Yeah, they're like really dangerous...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (qJhUV)

327

Planning under Obama: not a war crime.

Execution of plan under Trump: war crime.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (88OBX)

328 It would have been better to just use several dozen smaller bombs. Because feelings.

Posted by: President Barack Obama at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (FqgrG)

329 297
You can't hug your children with MOAB arms.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 01:13 PM (/tuJf)

Cruel.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (XoldI)

330 I know 3 people that live with chronic pain. (my brother, may dad and a sil). Taking away pain relief from people that have no other options is evil. / I'm not talking about "back" problems this is pain caused by neuro conditions (nerve dysfunction). I may have this in MY future, I already deal with some little parts of this (believe me pain and lack of sleep because of it are torture). Some people need these drugs just to survive.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (hMqvx)

331 When will Trump start dropping these on the ghetto's?

Posted by: April Ryan at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (fqERy)

332 162
How does the incendiary nature of the MOAB work against a tunnel
complex? Would the blast blow out all the oxygen leaving a vacuum?



Just wondering if it's the right tool for the job, while understanding that people who do know chose this tool.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (z79tQ)

Fuel air explosives create a slower and more continuously moving pressure wave as the flame front travels, in contrast to high explosives which are much higher speed.

As pointed out, they also consume oxygen as the pressure wave progresses, in addition to the massive and sustained pressure wave against structures like buildings, bones, and organs.

So I would expect this pressure wave to travel down through tunnel shafts consuming oxygen as it goes and hopefully choking out the occupants in their hidey holes, whereas a HE bomb might just explode at or near the entrance with the pressure wave dissipated within tens of feet of the entrance with little effect on oxygen levels in the vicinity.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (GX63o)

333 I said that because I thought that some solid fuel rockets used powdered aluminium.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (326rv)



I think that that's right, but the other component is ammonium perchlorate, not TNT.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (SRKgf)

334 I wasn't aware ISIS was in AfPak.

But I like the idea: we lose a man, they lose an entire mountain.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (xJa6I)

335 You know how soldiers will throw themselves on a live grenade to save their platoon?

I once sat on a live MOAB, and when it went off, I didn't feel a thing.

Maybe I should rent myself out to the Afghani government.

Posted by: Hope Solo at April 13, 2017 01:19 PM (7T8jT)

336
Now this is the kind of Kaboom! I like.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (3AGz8)

337 I don't know why reporters want to already---sell civilian casualties that will recruit more ISIS fighters--sitting stateside --right now.

Good news: more recruits will pour in.

Bad news: Ground zero? That was the recruiting office.

Posted by: ISIS at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (326rv)

338 Thank Gaia for aluminum-free Tom's of Maine antiperspirant.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (s/EUv)

Fvcking Hippie.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (rF0hx)

339 Have they dragged out the civilian causalities yet?

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (O2RFr)

340 IIRC a lot of the overdoses are because fentanyl is getting mixed with street heroin. Fentanyl is ridiculously strong and so it's easy to get the dosage wrong.

Yes, it's easy to say fuck 'em, they asked for it. But at current overdose rates it may hit someone you know, or their kid

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (SIY7D)

341 307 I wonder what the MOAB engineer was thinking when he settled on the perfect bomb length of 30' 1 3/4 " ?

Not 30' ... not 31' ... not even 30' 6".
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (BEMJs)
I bet that specific length is dictated by the C130's cargo bay dimensions.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (fdyVM)

342
193 Oh - and not really something that would be relevant against the Norks - these devices are dropped from cargo aircraft in "permissive" air defense environments, that is, areas without much or any air defense.

********

Are you doggin' the C-130!?

How dare you sir!

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:00 PM (fi5nC)








The C-17 would be somewhat more survivable. Not enough to where I'd want to fly the mission, but the odds would definitely be better.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (cuZZW)

343 Powdered Aluminum? Now all the hippies will stop recycling their cans so as to starve the evil military-industrial complex of the main ingredient.

Posted by: Strobe at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (gbWkA)

344 These things are pretty cheap, as munitions go, but we'll still hear the "this cost x dollars but we can't afford to fund Meals on Wheels???" stupidity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (39g3+)

345 I get the impression that much of this problem could be addressed but there's very big "legitimate" business interests that are just fine with the opioid epidemic like Big Pharma, doctors, and the medical industry.

And for whatever reason, Republicans always seem to have the back of any business in that space.

It seemed the biggest flip out on ObamaCare from the GOP was the medical device tax.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (R4okM)

346 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (4ErVI)

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Agreed - that "this is going to just create more terrorists" b*llsh*t was a creation of Oh-BAHM-uh to cover up for his ridiculous cowardice and inability to do anything on a national scale except, for some reason, kiss Iran's ass and help them get nuclear weapons ( and fund terrorism). The middle eastern-lion-terrorist thing is a myth. Muzzie men are cowards and respond to ass kicking with submission and hiding ( preferably the latter but happy to do the former. They understand only raw power, and its projection, and, most of all understand death and defeat. The more we kill them there - with commensurate "stop fucking with the West and we wil stop killing you!" messages the better off everyone will be - and allowing them to import themselves to our civilized side of he world should also be absolutely verboten until they have eliminated their death cult religion ( the same way the Brits eliminated the cult of Cali - as I recall from history that was a pretty recognized religion at the time!).

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (Fb9aZ)

347 126
If whoever it was (can't remember who) as Sec Def is to be
believed, they had to do an end-around ValJar just to get approval for
the strike against Bin Laden.
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The CIA analyst that found Osama claims that she spent a year arguing with the Obama administration and her higher ups to get them to do anything about it.

In fact, IIRC, she was shocked he was still there when Obama finally ok'd a strike.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 13, 2017

So was Obama I would say.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (kfcYC)

348
Part of the issue is the effective non-addicting pain killers are 4-500 dollar a prescription.

A bottle of oxy is 19.99.


Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (8XRCm)

349 325 Did they do an environmental impact study first?
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (eZ0Cd)



I bet they didn't even Mirandize ISIS first. Bastards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (SRKgf)

350 >>I was prescribed Hydrocodone for severe Sciatic nerve damage... Stuff worked... I decided on my own to stop use and the withdrawal was horrible, and I only took a small amount a day...

One of the doctors who worked at the practice that did my back surgery left the practice to be one of the bigwigs in the RI medical marijuana organization. He was very down on opioids and said that doctors have begun to hand them out like candy because they kept patients from complaining about pain.

I asked him whether he had any problem recommending marijuana products instead of opioids and he just laughed and asked me if I was aware of the nationwide opioid epidemic and who did I think was responsible for it.

They gave me Oxycodone after my operation. I stopped taking it about a week after I got out of the hospital.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (/tuJf)

351 Here's the motherflippin' truth of the matter: As hard as it sounds to say, the problem with the opioid epidemic is NOT the nitwits who overdose and die.

It's the users who manage to stay alive.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (TOk1P)

PJ O'Rourke: There are few things calmer than a heroin junkie who has had his fix. Either he's blissed out tripping or he's dead.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:14 PM (mf5HN)


Heh. It's when they're between fixes that they become rather unpleasant to deal with.

You know what else is interesting about all this? We as a society like talking about heroin. Needle users. Junkies. They're "sexy" in an odd way.

So we send teams out there to find ways to reduce harm. Clean needles, safer versions of the drugs (both on the street and in the treatment settings), and the overdose kits that get handed out like candy.

You know who isn't sexy, drug addict-wise?

Crack users, that's who.

Nobody is trying to make safer crack, cleaner pipes, etc. You use crack? Fine, go to prison or die. We don't care.

And so crack addicts do just that. They die. they go to prison. Or they get clean.

And they get clean/stay clean at vastly more reliably sustainable rates than heroin/narc addicts.

Funny how the "harm reduction" concept isn't really leading to, you know, less harm.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (TOk1P)

352 I wonder if the C-5 has a bigger one?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (eZ0Cd)

353 2) Hey Pudgy, you know that tunnel system you got in North Korea?

Watch this.



Thank God Trump won.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (NyJwR)


I remember in the late 80's there was this big press conference about oh look at this new imaging we have that shows where all the river beds of the Nile used to be and this is a game changer for archaeology and isn't it awesome?

Actual point of the presentation? Hey, USSR, we know where your underground nukes are.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (mf5HN)

354 shouldn't Trump have held a press conference to let the media know what was going on beforehand, and to give ISIS freedom fighters a fair chance to clear out of the tunnels?
====

Yes, yes. We could have made exactly the same point by exploding one of these Mom-bombs way out in the desert, so that people could see it, but without having to kill anybody.

Posted by: Every Lefty I Know at April 13, 2017 01:22 PM (4bKiB)

355 It's just physics.

A bomb has a blast radius--and it will keep going till it meets resistance, or peters out.

It might not be a bunker buster--but it still will exert a downward force.

IOW--if FOX News wants to say it won't have any penetrative effect--then they are welcome to go sit under one.


See how that pans out.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:22 PM (fi5nC)

356
How about selling several dozen of these to the Israelis so they can clearly mark the border with the Gaza Strip?

Posted by: a modest proposal at April 13, 2017 01:22 PM (v1g1+)

357 Have they dragged out the civilian causalities yet?
Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (O2RFr)

----

Im betting they were vaporized.

So.... no dragging.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 01:22 PM (8XRCm)

358 I bet that specific length is dictated by the C130's cargo bay dimensions.
Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (fdyVM)


Oh, good point.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at April 13, 2017 01:22 PM (K9oqL)

359 338 Thank Gaia for aluminum-free Tom's of Maine antiperspirant.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (s/EUv)

Fvcking Hippie.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (rF0hx)

I once had a hippie - who has high and drunk at the time - tell me he only uses Tom's of Maine because he doesn't want chemicals in his body.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 01:23 PM (7HtZB)

360 I got a rash from a girl named Gaia in Toms Maine once. Needed penicillin to get rid of it.

Posted by: Strobe at April 13, 2017 01:23 PM (gbWkA)

361 Actually, to hear pharmacy clerks talk, at least half of my small town is on some kind of prescription.

---

Well over 300,000,000 Rxs get dispensed each month

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (PNcou)

362 So, uh, Obama was slightly off in claiming he had ISIS on the run?
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Oh, you're thinking of the JV ISIS.

They're totally done-skies.

Don't you feel stupid now? For doubting Obama?

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (ZQpd0)

363 A bomb has a blast radius--and it will keep going till it meets resistance, or peters out.

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I recently "petered out" - read my new book!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (7HtZB)

364
What's our beef with Moab, Utah?

Posted by: clueless in Seattle at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (v1g1+)

365 Finally, an earth-shattering kaboom.

Posted by: Marvin at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (+evAm)

366 They should have painted "I'm not Obama" on that bomb.

Four hours from now: "China to double number of troops on North Korean border"

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (4ErVI)

367 The 18th ARVN division fought to the last at Xuan Loc just before Saigon fell. The RVNAF dropped 2 "South Vietnamese A-bombs" on the NVA during the battle, CBU 55 from C-130 aircraft.

Posted by: JHW at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (kn0BL)

368 Im betting they were vaporized.

So.... no dragging.

No worries, we have some on ice for just such occasions

Posted by: Green hat guy at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (O2RFr)

369 "Non-nuclear" what a gyp.

Posted by: V the K at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (O7MnT)

370 95 We haven't had any good war pron in a while.

I really want to see footage of this.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (PY9jH)

I wish they handed out go pros to those goat fuckers prior to dropping the MOAB for that badass on the ground view

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (nAWMW)

371 What's our beef with Moab, Utah?

***

Something about magic underpants, presumably.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (3qbs3)

372 It seemed the biggest flip out on ObamaCare from the GOP was the medical device tax.





Posted by: Maritime
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That is a biggie. Kills innovation. And the world typically waits for the US to innovate. The company my brother works for laid off over half their R and D department.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (8b+oT)

373 United - Be glad we don't use MOABs.

Posted by: United Airlines at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (7HtZB)

374 I've known people who had permanent, intractable, life-destroying pain which could be controlled only by opioids. No other instrumentality would suffice.

They took opioids not because they wanted a kick, not to have fun, but simply to lead something like a partially normal life not filled with constant appalling misery.

They weren't too thrilled with the side effects, either, and wished every day for an alternative that worked better. There were none such.

I was strengthened greatly in my native belief that medicine is NOT the proper purview of the state by watching their experiences and struggles. I am becoming furious with this nonsense about making it harder to get prescription pain relief.

As for junkies, I frankly don't give a damn. More overdose deaths among "recreational" drug abusers don't budge my needle of compassion at all. I save mine for people who are physically broken and unrepairable.

By the by, the last pain med I took was an ibuprofen, and it was a couple of months ago.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (noWW6)

375 Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (PNcou)

Feels like I handle half of those. Have I mentioned I hate my job with a passion.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (jl269)

376 I know 3 people that live with chronic pain. (my brother, may dad and a sil). Taking away pain relief from people that have no other options is evil. / I'm not talking about "back" problems this is pain caused by neuro conditions (nerve dysfunction). I may have this in MY future, I already deal with some little parts of this (believe me pain and lack of sleep because of it are torture). Some people need these drugs just to survive.
Posted by: USNtakim


______

It's starting to become a consensus with doctors now that pain medication for long term chronic pain is not effective and it's just basically feeding an addiction.



Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (R4okM)

377 Docs to hand out drugs like candy, its the substitute for actual medical care and knowledge. What's wrong? Well I don't know, so here, take these. Its like the 60s with Mother's Little Helper again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (39g3+)

378 When I was in college here in S.F., I was on the debate team. One of our rivals was UC/Berkeley -- they were pretty much stuck-up geeks (nerds with no redeeming social qualities) except this one guy, Evan, who had long blond hair and kinda looked like a viking. I debated him 3 times and every time, he swore he won -- he didn't. Anyway, after I gradumacated I learned that he OD'd on heroin. I had no idea he even used it -- the drug of choice in the college debate world was mostly weed with some occasional acid. Not everyone who uses heroin is scum or a loser, just as not everyone who drinks alcohol is (and alcohol kills more people every year than all other recreational substances combined).

It's a sad situation. Thing about heroin addiction is that it is so physically hard to kick. After my dad had major back surgery and got hooked on morphine, he went cold turkey. My mom tied him to the bed for a week and we kids had to be very quiet. He was miserable beyond belief. I can understand why someone would commit a crime of opportunity to avoid it.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (dZ756)

379 Pioneer Woman is now making 125 Spicy Italian Meatballs.

She's not "hot", but she's hawt.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:26 PM (6gk0M)

380 >>354
shouldn't Trump have held a press conference to let the media know what
was going on beforehand, and to give ISIS freedom fighters a fair chance
to clear out of the tunnels?
Posted by: Every Lefty I Know at April 13, 2017 01:22 PM (4bKiB)

Spicer should've had this tee'd up for mid-conference airing. "Okay, next quest...wait, uhh, hang on. If' you'll direct your attention to the screen behind me...fellas, can we get that popcorn passing? Great, thanks. Okay, so what we're about to watch is..."

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 01:26 PM (Bdeb0)

381 You joke, but I'm allergic to the aluminum so it WOULD be dangerous in my case. Well, maybe not *dangerous*, but a nasty rash is no fun.

---

so you wear an actual tinfoil hat?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:26 PM (PNcou)

382 As for junkies, I frankly don't give a damn. More overdose deaths among "recreational" drug abusers don't budge my needle of compassion at all.

***

Abso-fucking-lutely. Darwin in action, as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 01:26 PM (3qbs3)

383 257
The bomb did nearly $32 in damage.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:08 PM (eZ0Cd)

lol

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 01:26 PM (GX63o)

384 Yes, yes. We could have made exactly the same point by exploding one of these Mom-bombs way out in the desert, so that people could see it, but without having to kill anybody.
Posted by: Every Lefty I Know at April 13, 2017 01:22 PM (4bKiB)



Or, on the other hand, he could have made exactly the same point by exploding one on Berkeley.

So there's that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2017 01:26 PM (SRKgf)

385 Well over 300,000,000 Rxs get dispensed each month

Posted by: buzzsaw90
===

And a huge percentage is paid for with...wait for it...

Government Dollars.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 01:26 PM (5FLKM)

386 Have they dragged out the civilian causalities yet?

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (O2RFr)

They have to kill a bunch, first.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (0deF2)

387 Anyone else need pancakes?

...'cause I got pancakes.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (6gk0M)

388 She's not "hot", but she's hawt.

***

I'd do her.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (3qbs3)

389 "The Air Force took delivery of 20 bombs, designed to be delivered by the B-2 bomber, in September 2011."

Posted by: shit bit at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (1isJI)

390
Sean Spicer punts on specifics of use of MOAB. Won't say whether would be used in Syria or North Korea.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (HTdUD)

391 Donald 'Dirty Harry' Trump to Pyongyang -"Do you feel lucky punk?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (2Y1kI)

392 Sean Spicer punts on specifics of use of MOAB. Won't say whether would be used in Syria or North Korea.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (HTdUD)



How about the DC press corps?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 13, 2017 01:28 PM (493sH)

393 Sean Spicer punts on specifics of use of MOAB. Won't say whether would be used in Syria or North Korea.

***

Good. Make 'em wonder.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 01:28 PM (3qbs3)

394 Hitler never even dropped a MOAB on anyone.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:28 PM (eZ0Cd)

395 Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:25 PM (noWW6)

Yeah agreed. The most depressing side effect of the pill addicts is that it has made it harder for people who need the drugs to actually get them.

That's government for you though. Let's punish the people who actually need something in order to protect drug addicts.

My Mom was likely addicted to Vicodin at the end of her life due to the cancer. I remember my father getting all angry that she would get addicted. It's like you're not getting the full picture here. She's terminal and she's not going to get better. Better than it's as painless as possible.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2017 01:28 PM (4ErVI)

396 "If whoever it was (can't remember who) as Sec Def is to be
believed, they had to do an end-around ValJar just to get approval for
the strike against Bin Laden."


I think that was Leon Panetta, and he told Obama when the SEALs were inbound and were past the point of recall.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:28 PM (hLRSq)

397 315 We used other type bunker buster bombs in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (jl269)

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JDAMs, IIRC.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (5JlYa)

398 Hitler never even dropped a MOAB on anyone.

If only I had one...

Posted by: Zombie Hitler at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (O2RFr)

399 It seemed the biggest flip out on ObamaCare from the GOP was the medical device tax.





Posted by: Maritime
-----
That is a biggie. Kills innovation. And the world typically waits for the US to innovate. The company my brother works for laid off over half their R and D department.
Posted by: Dang

____

I'm against a medical device tax, but what a stupid "corporate" concern for Republicans to scream about.

It was 2.3%

My premiums go up like 20% a year under ObamaCare. And then there's all the other ObamaCare taxes on my income.

A bunch of Tea Party groups (wisely in my opinion) flipped out when Republicans tried to repeal just that medical device tax as it was one of the dumbest things to focus on.

But the GOP is always looking out for big health care companies. Just not so much actual Republican voters

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (R4okM)

400 North Korea is one of the few examples of the opposite of "permissive" air defense environment.
=========
I suspect we have a plane capable of delivery which can fly higher than their anti-aircraft defense.

And we most definitely have the capability to clear a route if not.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (ZQpd0)

401 390
Sean Spicer punts on specifics of use of MOAB. Won't say whether would be used in Syria or North Korea.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (HTdUD)

Good. Keep the bastards guessing.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (fdyVM)

402 This broad is stuffing almonds into dates and wrapping them in bacon.

Her pussy must smell like All of Those Things.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (6gk0M)

403 277
Dropping bombs on manlove Thursday. That's A-level work.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 13, 2017 01:11 PM (igd3d)

Learned something new.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (GX63o)

404 All sand looks about the same to me. Wonder how USAF tells bad MOAB sand from good regular sand?

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (aVY3U)

405 *Did they do an environmental impact study first?
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:18 PM (eZ0Cd)*

Pre impact study results = flat terrain far as the eye can see.

Post impact preliminary study results = bigly hole in the ground.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (Z7b/F)

406 "It's starting to become a consensus with doctors now that pain
medication for long term chronic pain is not effective and it's just
basically feeding an addiction."

Yeah, no.

Whenever I hear the words "consensus" and "doctors" I am immediately and deeply skeptical.

From the bunch who brought us the preposterous BMI metric as an authoritative assessment of personal fitness.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (noWW6)

407
It's starting to become a consensus with doctors now that pain
medication for long term chronic pain is not effective and it's just
basically feeding an addiction.




This is a lie. Close relative with chronic pain and broken hardware. Doesn't abuse the narc's but the medical profession is trying to cover its ass for prior bad acts. I despise some medical professionals as much as I do gov't.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (uKRys)

408 Video released of bombing and Sec. Def Mattis

https://youtu.be/KNAgFhh1ji4?t=55s

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (laQYo)

409 *Cut the Flapjacks*

We're moving to lunch.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (6gk0M)

410 I once had a hippie - who has high and drunk at the time - tell me he only uses Tom's of Maine because he doesn't want chemicals in his body.
Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 01:23 PM (7HtZB)


I had one tell me he didn't get his dog vaccinated against rabies because he "didn't want a chemical dog."

The guy was of course high at the time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (SRKgf)

411 About the opiates-

I was working for a family physician around 1999-2000. A drug rep came in and offered the doc an all expenses paid trip to see a Eric Clapton acoustic performance. Expensive hotel, best restaurants.

On the way to the concert the drug rep pulled out about an 8-ball of hash. By the time we got to the restaurant...honestly I don't remember much from the restaurant.

So after our stay I asked the doc wtf does that drug rep want you to sling? I'd been on a few of these trips before but this was extraordinary.

He said that the drug rep wanted him to prescribe a drug that was originally developed to ease terminal cancer patients pain during their last days. It was so potent that it would cause addiction but...terminal patient.

But the drug rep wanted him to start handing it out for people with broken bones and chronic pain. The doc said he thanked him for the trip but he wouldn't be handing out scripts for such a potent drug which he described as heroin in a pill.

That's why Oxycontin and opiate abuse are such a plague now. Pharma sent reps into small towns around the country and got people addicted to their legal heroin.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (SP6Ke)

412 >>>Anyone else need pancakes? ...'cause I got pancakes.

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEEEEEEEE!!!
THANKS!!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 13, 2017 01:31 PM (igd3d)

413 371 What's our beef with Moab, Utah?

***

Something about magic underpants, presumably.
Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 01:24 PM (3qbs3)

Hmmm... well the town of Moab Utah was actually built up because of a Uranium mine.... soooo...

Posted by: Don Q. at April 13, 2017 01:31 PM (NgKpN)

414 Could we catapult a MOAB over the DMZ?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 01:31 PM (fqERy)

415
It's starting to become a consensus with doctors now that pain medication for long term chronic pain is not effective and it's just basically feeding an addiction.


Long term chronic pain will ruin your life. What do we do to help people with chronic pain? (suicide has been contemplated by people I know and love) why deny relief to people that suffer?

To me that is evil.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (hMqvx)

416 One More Order of Pancakes!

*Shoves a small stack through USB port*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (6gk0M)

417 Ahem. Second biggest bomb.

Posted by: Ishtar at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (wPiJc)

418 Oh... this is a F.O.A.B., according to Rush.

-
XOAB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (Nwg0u)

419

"The Air Force took delivery of 20 bombs, designed to be delivered by the B-2 bomber, in September 2011."
Posted by: shit bit

Ho Lee Fuk.

Posted by: idiot in NK at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (326rv)

420 I just deployed the mother of all boners.

Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (MF/hn)

421 >>I'm not talking about "back" problems this is pain caused by neuro conditions (nerve dysfunction).


"Back" problems often are neurological problems. The spine is one giant nerve cluster and issues with a back can radiate throughout the body and trust me on this one, the pain is debilitating and unrelenting.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (/tuJf)

422 "For me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me"

-Donald Trump

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (BHpB+)

423 Walk softly, carry a big stick, and occasionally knock the shit out of someone with that big stick.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (8b+oT)

424 C'ant they drop a bunch of these on the Norks 10,000 artillery pieces?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (eZ0Cd)

425
This is basically the bomb from that other bomb, Outbreak, amirite?

I never wished so fervently for a character to be offed as I did for Dustin Hoffman in that movie.

Posted by: objective? sure, why not? at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (v1g1+)

426 "After my dad had major back surgery and got hooked on morphine, he went
cold turkey. My mom tied him to the bed for a week and we kids had to be
very quiet. He was miserable beyond belief."

I've seen people have horrible difficulty trying to get off of opioids, and I've seen people successfully titrate down to nothing, and I've seen people go immediately cold turkey from heavy use with symptoms no more severe than a mild head cold.

People are weird, and highly variable in their biochemical responses.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (noWW6)

427 401 390
Sean Spicer punts on specifics of use of MOAB. Won't say whether would be used in Syria or North Korea.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 01:27 PM (HTdUD)

Good. Keep the bastards guessing.
Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 01:29 PM (fdyVM)



Yep. It's so good to have a grownup in the WH, someone who a) kicks ass and b) doesn't telegraph his punches.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (SRKgf)

428 358 I bet that specific length is dictated by the C130's cargo bay dimensions.
Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 01:20 PM (fdyVM)

Plus it's probably a metric unit conversion.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (C3qTd)

429 14 Of course Trump just had to be the President that dropped the YUUUGEST bomb we have.

You know that's how it was sold to him by the Generals.
Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (zcIrz)


Word.

Posted by: PDT's Dick at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (DdGS0)

430 Well over 300,000,000 Rxs get dispensed each month
=====

How many have the 'DOA' (movie) hook: stop this medicine and you die. I think a lot of cholesterol and heart medications have that caveat. Probably similar to opioid use; stop it and you go through hideous withdrawal.

Ask your doctor about [insert product] is one of the most pernicious and frightening attitudes right now.

Sadly remembering some elderly ladies I knew who died from liver failure, a/k/a aceteminophen because it was supposedly safer than aspirin.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (MIKMs)

431 Ahem. Second biggest bomb.

Posted by: Ishtar at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (wPiJc)


I killed a studio.

Posted by: Heaven's Gate at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (hLRSq)

432 Six Minute Mo' Abs™

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (wPiJc)

433 My nephew is a marine special forces. He's actually a sniper and when he last called he was awaiting orders to go to North Korea. We have not heard from him since-it's been a week- but evidently there are plans.

Posted by: Chilling the most at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (Cl52v)

434 US Drops MOAB Bomb Against Tunnel Complex In Eastern Afghanistan, Using the "Mother of All Bombs" For First Time in Combat

Afghanistan is like an ISIS ant farm, and Trump is the heartless bastard who shakes it in order to destroy their home! Heartless bastard!

I wish he would develop a giant magnifying glass instead.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (7T8jT)

435 Docs to hand out drugs like candy, its the substitute for actual medical care and knowledge. What's wrong? Well I don't know, so here, take these. Its like the 60s with Mother's Little Helper again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
___________

And guess who pays for that? How much of this is on MediCaid and Medicare.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:34 PM (R4okM)

436 The blast radius could been smaller --coulda been bigger--it depends.

But to claim Mattis is sorta dumb and did this in response to one guy dying--and my gawd--THE HUMANITY--and future ISIS fighters recruited by this is just....

CONJECTURE PORN--or something.

holy cripes.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:34 PM (fi5nC)

437 C'ant they drop a bunch of these on the Norks 10,000 artillery pieces?
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:32 PM (eZ0Cd)


Nork artillery is often buried in mountainsides behind blast doors. Door open, pieces roll out and fire, and then roll back in to be protected. Even a MOAB is going to have trouble penetrating that. Not to mention the number of sorties needed to hit every piece. Meanwhile, everything south to past Seoul would be flattened by the Nork shelling.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 13, 2017 01:35 PM (Tnhbr)

438
Yeah, no.

Whenever I hear the words "consensus" and "doctors" I am immediately and deeply skeptical.


Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (noWW6)


Four out of five doctors recommend flying United.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:35 PM (mf5HN)

439 We're going to need more hoagies.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:36 PM (6gk0M)

440 It's Thunder Thursday, friends.

Posted by: What's my name? Suck it, , that's my name at April 13, 2017 01:36 PM (iiT5R)

441 Of course Trump just had to be the President that dropped the YUUUGEST bomb we have.

You know that's how it was sold to him by the Generals.
Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (zcIrz)

"This slide shows out largest bomb, the Schlong."

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:36 PM (hLRSq)

442 Afghanistan is like an ISIS ant farm, and Trump is the heartless bastard who shakes it in order to destroy their home! Heartless bastard!

I wish he would develop a giant magnifying glass instead.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (7T8jT)

*************

Satellites with--lazers.


I still want a huge magnet to fly over Chicago...

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 01:36 PM (fi5nC)

443
415
It's starting to become a consensus with doctors now that pain medication for long term chronic pain is not effective and it's just basically feeding an addiction.


Well, good for them!

Were they living with a loved one for whom chronic pain is debilitating, perhaps I'd give their assertion some credence. Otherwise, they can eat a bag of rancid dicks.

Posted by: objective? sure, why not? at April 13, 2017 01:36 PM (v1g1+)

444 President Trump punches above his wieght

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 13, 2017 01:36 PM (FZYNt)

445 This is a lie. Close relative with chronic pain and broken hardware. Doesn't abuse the narc's but the medical profession is trying to cover its ass for prior bad acts. I despise some medical professionals as much as I do gov't.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (uKRys)


Yeah, I'm not fully up on the science around it, but there appears to be evidence that if your pain level is X, and the painkiller you take is measured to reduce/eliminate the pain, your receptors will use the medicines you need, and essentially leave no "leftovers" for the addiction part of your brain to mess with.

That's an oversimplification, but I think it's fairly accurate.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:37 PM (TOk1P)

446 Ann Coulter and Michael "savage" Weiner hardest hit

Posted by: Derbererd at April 13, 2017 01:37 PM (ztNPn)

447 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (s/EUv)

I think Ivanka and Jared, are out of town. So, all is good.

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 01:37 PM (OU4q6)

448 Isn't Moab a desert? Of course everytime I see BLM I think of Bureau of Land Management 1st. BTW I made top ten but I still screwed up my comment. I meant Lindsey McStain Buckingham and the Mother of All Bombs (Moab).

Posted by: Glenn John at April 13, 2017 01:37 PM (LilNs)

449 You can tell by the tone of the MFM at this presser they know they are irrelevant shitstains now. Kind of like the GOPe.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 01:38 PM (fqERy)

450 I will see you all later before I blow a gasket. Have a fine day.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 01:38 PM (hMqvx)

451 I'm not talking about "back" problems this is pain caused by neuro conditions (nerve dysfunction).

______

For what it's worth, I have a friend that's a "real" doctor at a pain speciality clinic, and she said pain killers have zero effect on neuropathic type pain

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:38 PM (R4okM)

452 Bureau of Land Management matters.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:38 PM (eZ0Cd)

453 Ibuprofen works oddly on me. It can put me down pretty hard, so I tend to avoid anything strong.

I will say that when I have kidney stones, only opiods touch the pain from that. Lesser drugs do nothing.

There's a role for opiods, they work. But they shouldn't be used recreationally.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 13, 2017 01:38 PM (xJa6I)

454
um.


Russians?





Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 01:38 PM (5FLKM)

455
445 This is a lie. Close relative with chronic pain and broken hardware. Doesn't abuse the narc's but the medical profession is trying to cover its ass for prior bad acts. I despise some medical professionals as much as I do gov't.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (uKRys)


Testify!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (v1g1+)

456 Yeah, no.

Whenever I hear the words "consensus" and "doctors" I am immediately and deeply skeptical.


Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (noWW6)

Four out of five doctors recommend flying United.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:35 PM (mf5HN)



Oddly enough, one out of five doctors is an Asiatic Oriental type fella.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (TOk1P)

457 Ask your doctor about [insert product] is one of the most pernicious and frightening attitudes right now.

---

pushing 52 and i'm not on any meds so far....

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (PNcou)

458 It's amazing what can happen when there's a muzzie-loving nancy boy gone from the White House.

As to how many MOABs have we got?

...probably not enough.


Bonus round: start flying lone C-130s over ISIS-held cities at random times to spook the shit out of them.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (Quwsn)

459 What's our beef with Moab, Utah?

-
Tree-hugger hippyville.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (Nwg0u)

460 >>>65 It weighs nearly as much as the panel on the View.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:45 PM (eZ0Cd)

I shouldn't have laughed, probably. But I did.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (Gqgs8)

461 Fentanyl lollipops were developed for patients with terminal cancer. There was a period of time before it was disallowed, where pain management doctors were prescribing them for 'chronic' back pain.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:40 PM (jl269)

462 Four out of five doctors recommend flying United.

Posted by: alexthechick



New on United's in-flight menu?
Chinese take-out.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:40 PM (uh5kC)

463
*Actual point of the presentation? Hey, USSR, we know where your underground nukes are.
Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:21 PM (mf5HN)*

Yep, that was hilarious to watch. Was thinking about that event as we bombed Syria. Air defenses are not real effective against large numbers of cruise missles.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 01:40 PM (Z7b/F)

464 New on United's in-flight menu?
Chinese take-out.
Posted by: rickb223

that's Vietnamese mother fucker

Posted by: Dao at April 13, 2017 01:41 PM (FZYNt)

465 457 @buzzsaw90

Almost 65 and not even remotely interested in meds.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at April 13, 2017 01:41 PM (Quwsn)

466 >>>78 Trump is just celebrating the Day of the Sun his way.
Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (yL25O)

Thread winner.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 01:41 PM (Gqgs8)

467 We Had it All
*we had it all*
Just Like Bogey and Bacall
*just like bogey and bacall*
Starring in Our Own Late-Late Show
Just like they did on Mara Lago.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:41 PM (6gk0M)

468
New on United's in-flight menu?
Chinese take-out.

But it's expensive... It'll cost you about 20 million give or take a million

Posted by: Zombie Hitler at April 13, 2017 01:41 PM (O2RFr)

469 Why can't all nuclear powers rent the Sahara as a testing ground? And dump toxic waste there and cover it with solar panels? And the we could do the same with Afghanistan.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 01:41 PM (7T8jT)

470 How did that pesky Mongorian get on the prane?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:42 PM (eZ0Cd)

471 " You can tell by the tone of the MFM at this presser they know they are irrelevant shitstains now."

Good to hear. Their Nerd Prom is on 4/29. I expect the Trumpsters to drop something beforehand next week about Obama spying on Trump, because it's "artistic."

Then a D list Muslim comic will preside at the actual event. Will MSM look bad!

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 01:42 PM (SIY7D)

472 Ask your doctor about [insert product] is one of the most pernicious and frightening attitudes right now.

______

I personally thought it was a good law that pharma couldn't advertise. That's how it used to be but the laws were changed

But this is one of those "TruCon" issues that the public is best served when Big Business gets to do whatever they want.

I just know a doctor told me it's amazing how much it costs the consumer (and thus the taxpayer) because they demand these designer drugs that have MUCH cheaper alternatives

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:42 PM (R4okM)

473 I wish he would develop a giant magnifying glass instead.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (7T8jT)

In the works, if not already in inventory.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 01:42 PM (GX63o)

474 Boy I go out for the afternoon to have a quiet beer on a sunny afternoon and Trump drops the largest bomb in history on Afghanistan, supposedly to retaliate for the death of a Green Beret.

That guy ain't Reagan but he's got the same playbook, boy howdy.

Posted by: vivi at April 13, 2017 01:43 PM (11H2y)

475 President KABOOM indeed-- killing ISIS and doing millions of dollars of real estate improvements with just one bomb.

Posted by: cornbred at April 13, 2017 01:43 PM (tB77w)

476 425


This is basically the bomb from that other bomb, Outbreak, amirite?



I never wished so fervently for a character to be offed as I did for Dustin Hoffman in that movie.

Posted by: objective? sure, why not? at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (v1g1+)
***So you never saw Avatar then? I was literally cheering for the stupid blue whatever the f*ckers were called, and their stupid tree, to be blasted out of existence - man I hated that movie.
Here is the honest trailer - worth a watch ( or re-watch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUTtt14G31c

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 13, 2017 01:43 PM (Fb9aZ)

477 451 I'm not talking about "back" problems this is pain caused by neuro conditions (nerve dysfunction).

______

For what it's worth, I have a friend that's a "real" doctor at a pain speciality clinic, and she said pain killers have zero effect on neuropathic type pain
Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:38 PM (R4okM)

Pfizer is making a killing on Lyrica right now as it's being crossed used for chronic pain. ( developed for diabetic neuropathic pain) .

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:43 PM (jl269)

478 pushing 52 and i'm not on any meds so far....
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (PNcou)

-----------

68 -- no meds.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2017 01:43 PM (Fmupd)

479 When will Trump hold a beer summit instead of all this warfare?

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 13, 2017 01:44 PM (FZYNt)

480 I just know a doctor told me it's amazing how much it costs the consumer (and thus the taxpayer) because they demand these designer drugs that have MUCH cheaper alternatives

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:42 PM (R4okM)


Ask your doctor about the correlation between the drugs he/she pushes and the relative hotness of the drug reps who sell this or that particular product.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:44 PM (TOk1P)

481 The rice bowl is against the wall
repeat
The rice bowl is against the wall


See Yu Soon- N. Korean resistance fighter

Posted by: Ben Had at April 13, 2017 01:44 PM (JEb++)

482 >>Fentanyl lollipops were developed for patients with terminal cancer.


Had fentanyl once for an outpatient procedure. It was....fabulous. Suddenly understood why Michael Jackson was hooked on that stuff. Lollipops for anyone other than a terminal patient seems like a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 01:44 PM (NOIQH)

483 The Lone Ranger?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:44 PM (eZ0Cd)

484 473 I wish he would develop a giant magnifying glass instead.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 01:33 PM (7T8jT)

In the works, if not already in inventory.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 01:42 PM (GX63o)

I'm still waiting on the directed kinetic energy weapons or "Rods from God"

Turns out, if you drop a regular tungsten steel rod with enough mass from high enough, it has the same effect as a small meteor hitting the earth.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (nAWMW)

485
Has anyone asked Senator John McCain his opinion about the United passenger incident? I mean, if anyone knows anything about being forcibly ejected from a plane, it's him. Repeatedly.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (HTdUD)

486
Four out of five doctors recommend flying United.
Posted by: alexthechick


More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.

https://youtu.be/cKMn-_aQoPk

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (IqV8l)

487 In the Andy Griffith Show, Opie was a metaphor for the rampant drug use that was seen on the horizon. He was a youngster while Odis was old and alcoholic. On the way out. Barney was a metaphor for the rising acceptance of homosexuality and Andy as the bi-curious confirmed bachelor. The town of Mayberry was seen as doomed. As in, "may bury." Aunt Bea was actually death. Biding her time...



Making up shit like that on the fly, I should get a job at a University.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (8b+oT)

488 I'm thinking the Green Beret who died may have given them the info on this location...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (O2RFr)

489 Lyrica and gabapenton are unfortunately drugs I am familiar with.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (hMqvx)

490 If Trump hurt or killed any Lesbians or Gays in Afterganstien then he should be tried as a war crimmminal in that UN place and put in Guamtonano Bay prisdon place build by Bush. Trump is hurting peecefull people in that palce and we should impeech Trump and give us back Presdent Obama and the world will loves us again ....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (WmgTn)

491 "For what it's worth, I have a friend that's a 'real' doctor at a pain
speciality clinic, and she said pain killers have zero effect on
neuropathic type pain"

That I would agree with.

Except some people are in combined situations where they have both nerve injury causing phantom neuropathic pain, call it Y percent, and non-nerve injury causing genuine nociceptive pain.

So they still do derive benefit from treatment with opioids.

They don't get 100 percent pain relief. They get 100-Y percent. It's still entirely worth it to them to get that number down somewhat.

Also, if anyone could point me to the part of the Constitution that makes what these patients are choosing to take for their pain to be *any* business of bureaucrats or Clowngresscritter in D.C., I'd be obliged. No emanations, penumbras, tractor beams, force fields, or the "Good And Welfare Clause", please.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (noWW6)

492 So ... how do we put this on the tip of a cruise missile?

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (a9n6M)

493 Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (FqgrG)

MOAB works for me. All the years, all the deployments, all the loss of life of brave men and women in this sh*thole

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 01:46 PM (OU4q6)

494 pushing 52 and i'm not on any meds so far....
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (PNcou)

-----------

68 -- no meds.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2017 01:43 PM (Fmupd)


Man, you people are old.

No but seriously, I'm not on meds either, and when I go to a doc for this or that, they ask about it, and I always get that look "what, you're on no meds??"

I didn't realize I was such a freak of nature.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

495 I have a problem with the "all pain must be eliminated" mentality, because I think it veers dangerously close to the same mentality used by the pro-euthenasia crowd.

Remember that assisted suicide was supposed to be for the terminally ill: cancer patients with a few months to live and the like. Then it slowly expanded until it became "quality of life" and now they're seriously arguing that depressed people should be able to get a lethal cocktail from their doctors and hey that kid's life wouldn't have been all that great so why shouldn't he just end it now.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 13, 2017 01:46 PM (Tnhbr)

496 ***So you never saw Avatar then? I was literally cheering for the stupid blue whatever the f*ckers were called, and their stupid tree, to be blasted out of existence - man I hated that movie.
Here is the honest trailer - worth a watch ( or re-watch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUTtt14G31c

Posted by: Publius Redux


I hated that movie. I was rooting for Colonel Quaritch.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 01:46 PM (7T8jT)

497 487 In the Andy Griffith Show, Opie was a metaphor for the rampant drug use that was seen on the horizon. He was a youngster while Odis was old and alcoholic. On the way out. Barney was a metaphor for the rising acceptance of homosexuality and Andy as the bi-curious confirmed bachelor. The town of Mayberry was seen as doomed. As in, "may bury." Aunt Bea was actually death. Biding her time...



Making up shit like that on the fly, I should get a job at a University.
Posted by: Dang

Dang, can I but some pot?

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 13, 2017 01:46 PM (FZYNt)

498 Moab has got something cool for us dinophiles. Dinosaur mods/statues out in the open kinda like real life.

http://moabgiants.com

Next time the grandkids come, we're going.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:46 PM (Nwg0u)

499 Pfizer is making a killing on Lyrica right now as it's being crossed used for chronic pain. ( developed for diabetic neuropathic pain) .
Posted by: Jack Sock

________

But that's sort of my point, for how many years have traditional pain killers been prescribed that weren't effective for the type of pain that was trying to be addressed?

It's just people becoming junkies and doctors looking the other way.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 01:47 PM (R4okM)

500 BREAKING: Trump to build new casino, after finally removing reticent old lady out of her home to make way for parking lot.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 01:47 PM (GX63o)

501
Four out of five doctors recommend flying United.



Posted by: alexthechick

United: Putting the "hospital" back in hospitality.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 13, 2017 01:47 PM (qJhUV)

502 Prediction for the Georgia race next week: first round, Ossoff gets 45%, no Republican gets out of the 20's, Dem's and the media cheer a great victory.

Second round, lone republican remaining gets 55%, Ossoff still gets his 45%, no one ever talks about the race again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 13, 2017 01:47 PM (KeRkT)

503 This is wrong. We should not be using these indiscriminate weapons. May God have mercy on us.

Posted by: jihadi at April 13, 2017 01:47 PM (I64i9)

504 This whole restrict opioids thing doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Most of the studies which I'm aware of show that prescribing opioids for pain say after surgery shows no addictive effects if the patient uses the drug only for as long as they need it to relieve pain

Obviously. this doesn't include longterm use as in chronic pain, Or drug addicts.

I'm guessing a big part of the problem is patients who decide they like the buzz using their leftovers and refills for recreational use.

As a sample size of one, I've had a couple of surgeries where they loaded me up on opioids, which I took, then stopped taking when I didn't need them, aaaaaaand-

nothing.

I went on my merry way.

It's the culture IMHO more than the drugs themselves which are causing the problem.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 13, 2017 01:47 PM (NyJwR)

505 When will Trump hold a beer summit instead of all this warfare?

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 13, 2017 01:44 PM (FZYNt)


Trump doesn't drink.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 01:48 PM (hLRSq)

506 Yeah, I'm not fully up on the science around it, but there appears to be evidence that if your pain level is X, and the painkiller you take is measured to reduce/eliminate the pain, your receptors will use the medicines you need, and essentially leave no "leftovers" for the addiction part of your brain to mess with.

That's an oversimplification, but I think it's fairly accurate.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 01:37 PM (TOk1P)



Isn't that also one of the key differences between crack and heroin? They bind to different receptors so it's a different kind of high.

When the BFF was in her last week of life, they put in a morphine pump and told us to just hit the button whenever we thought she needed more. The doctor also said don't worry, there's a failsafe to prevent OD which, given her condition, seemed like a ludicrous concern. I followed her doctor out into the hall and said look I know how those work and when we press the button if it's outside the programmed time it's not actually doing anything, right?

He started to hem and haw and then realized I wouldn't buy it and shrugged and said nope but it makes the family think it's helping and that's worth a lot.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:48 PM (mf5HN)

507 No but seriously, I'm not on meds either, and when I go to a doc for this or that, they ask about it, and I always get that look "what, you're on no meds??"

I didn't realize I was such a freak of nature.
Posted by: BurtTC



My doc would do everything he could to NOT prescribe meds.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:48 PM (uh5kC)

508 Avatar should have been named Smurf'n'gully.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 13, 2017 01:48 PM (KeRkT)

509 >>originally developed to ease terminal cancer patients pain
during their last days. It was so potent that it would cause addiction
but...terminal patient. Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (SP6Ke)

Not to put too fine a point on it, but sit and listen to an otherwise healthy loved one die of leukemia, and you'll likely acquire a keen sense of gratitude that the drug exists.

Shame that others get hooked. Glad it's there when needed.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 01:49 PM (Bdeb0)

510 *pulls chute*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:49 PM (6gk0M)

511
Here in Delaware your primary care physician has just had his ability to prescribe opiate pain killers revoked as of April 1. "Pain management" clinics and their staffs are now the go to managers for this problem.

Mrs. Krebs requires opiates (ain't debating this, kiddos) to function with neck (auto accident) and lower back (unknown) issues. The earliest she could get an appointment with a pain management clinic was early July, leaving her with an over two month long gap where she would be disabled and unable to function from pain. All this because a state-created "blue ribbon panel" recommended a change because there are abusers out there. Mrs. Krebs is not one.

She heard from her PCP this week that he has leave to continue to prescribe opiates for her until she is on board with the new place in early July. A huge load was lifted from both our shoulders, believe me.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 13, 2017 01:49 PM (v1g1+)

512 >>494 pushing 52 and i'm not on any meds so far....
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 01:39 PM (PNcou)

Congrats! At 39 I dropped 131lbs (with just exercise - 329lbs to 198lbs) and saw a majority of the health problems I was on meds for prior cease. Dr. and I still argue over the hypertension meds however, I insist on taking them since HBP is rampant in my family and she says no need. We compromised on minimal dosage.

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at April 13, 2017 01:49 PM (laQYo)

513 pretty sure all the morons here were cheering for the scrawny smurfs to eat napalm in avatar. what a pos.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 13, 2017 01:49 PM (vIgP8)

514 Turns out, if you drop a regular tungsten steel rod with enough mass from high enough, it has the same effect as a small meteor hitting the earth.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (nAWMW)

But a lot more energy has to be expended to get the rods into orbit in the first place. So it becomes a very expensive hammer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2017 01:49 PM (0deF2)

515 Four out of five doctors recommend flying United.



Posted by: alexthechick

United: Putting the "hospital" back in hospitality.
Posted by: tu3031



United has red eye flights and are now adding black-eye flights.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:50 PM (uh5kC)

516 Jeeziz what waz that?

Windows just shook

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at April 13, 2017 01:50 PM (A6uIZ)

517 502 Prediction for the Georgia race next week: first round, Ossoff gets 45%, no Republican gets out of the 20's, Dem's and the media cheer a great victory.

Second round, lone republican remaining gets 55%, Ossoff still gets his 45%, no one ever talks about the race again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 13, 2017 01:47 PM (KeRkT)

Yep. Happens every damn time down here in LA.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 01:50 PM (fdyVM)

518 Status:

[ ] Tired of winning

[X] Not tired of winning

[X] YUUUUGE

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (Nwg0u)

519 Pfizer is making a killing on Lyrica right now as it's being crossed used for chronic pain.
===

Lyrica is an anti-seizure medication.


Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (5FLKM)

520 So, the test to see if the MOAB works on the enemy is a success?

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (uKRys)

521 Liberals, please take note.

The reason that President Trump can fit in all of that golf at the golf course that he owns is because he doesn't sit around for hours and hours and hours on end trying to figure out what to do with our enemies.

He doesn't ruminate. He eliminates.

It's a hell of a concept. Killing your enemies rather than thinking up ways to assuage them.

MAGA through MOAB.

Love it.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (4AVeu)

522 Dang, can I but some pot?

Posted by: Rick in SK
-----
C'mon, man! "Opie" -- "opioid" -- it all makes sense!!!

*burps bong smoke*



Seriously, pot? Never have. Never will.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (8b+oT)

523
When will Trump hold a beer summit instead of all this warfare?
Posted by: Rick in SK


How about a "hold my beer" summit?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (IqV8l)

524 Jeeziz what waz that?

Windows just shook

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands

Where are you located? Window movement is usually earthquake.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (HTdUD)

525 I go away for a while, come back, and Trump has dragged ISIS down the aisle and off the plane.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 13, 2017 01:52 PM (+FSld)

526 pushing 52 and i'm not on any meds so far....
=====

And I feel like a criminal because pseudoephedrine is the only way to deal with my terminal post-nasal drip (had pneumonia one year because I was trying everything else).

Aspirin works well as a pain reliever for most things and does not have a half-life in the liver and other organs..

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2017 01:52 PM (MIKMs)

527 OK, time for a bit of "smart military blog".

Tactical use of MOABs aside, the fundamental unaddressed strategic proposition in re Afghanistan is that the Pakistani ISI have every intent of preventing a government being stood up next door that's not under their sway. It's their back yard. They intend to keep it such.

And Pakistani soil continues to be a training, reequipping, logistics, medical, and staging center for Taliban Timmy on his way into and out of campaigning in Afghanistan.

Trump ain't gonna be dropping any Schlong Bombs on the Pakis, one of the most heavily nuclear-armed states on the planet for their size.

So what now?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:52 PM (noWW6)

528 509 >>originally developed to ease terminal cancer patients pain
during their last days. It was so potent that it would cause addiction
but...terminal patient. Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 13, 2017 01:30 PM (SP6Ke)

Not to put too fine a point on it, but sit and listen to an otherwise healthy loved one die of leukemia, and you'll likely acquire a keen sense of gratitude that the drug exists.

Shame that others get hooked. Glad it's there when needed.
Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 01:49 PM (Bdeb0)

Yes.
My mother had terminal cancer and in the last few months was in constant excruciating pain. Not much worse in life than having a loved family member ask you to help end their suffering out of mercy and not being able to do anything.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 13, 2017 01:52 PM (nAWMW)

529 I thought we had an even bigger one that was more dedicated to bunker busting? the GBU-57A/B/? a 30k pounder maybe?

Posted by: Bob in Houston-Vast Right Wing Basket of deplorable! at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (XRxxn)

530 >>
If Trump hurt or killed any Lesbians or Gays in Afterganstien then he should be tried as a war crimmminal...


Psssssst, Mary! Maybe 'killing mother Gaia' is a better reason to prosecute Trump. After all, Obama always held back on striking ISIS because it would be bad for the environment

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (NOIQH)

531 Lyrica is an anti-seizure medication.


So is gabapenton, but they can both be used to control neuropathic pain.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (hMqvx)

532 Just turned 50 and shit is starting to break down.

Got a bone spur right behind my Achilles that's killing me as well as chronic knee pain from a few too many aggressive hiking excursions. Given up on anti-inflammatories and pain killers as all they do is take pain and inflammation that's a 10 and make them a 7 or 8 but with the side effect of screwing up my stomach and giving me deadly constipation.

I'm starting rooster crown therapy on my knee and getting the bone spur shaved off.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (fcBnw)

533 So, the folks who read the Independent in the UK think this is a lame move, and we are only hurting the innocent who have no weapons or means to defend themselves. Also, dropping this will only hurt our economy, and we are like Hitler.

Just a few comments at the Iranian official press site; they are of the "we're testing weapons in innocents" line.

Not really any comments on the Israeli sites, however those that are there are positive. Same with some of the India papers.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (FkAXz)

534 NSFW language

http://tinyurl.com/h7cs443

From my own experience I can tell you that the human mind is capable of
doing some incredibly destructive things if you let it, and inventing a
syndrome that manifests in actual, chronic physical discomfort with no
identifiable source is certainly one of them.


This doc pulls no punches about the "chronic pain" industry.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (5FLKM)

535 "18 Syrian Fighters Allied with US Are Killed in Coalition Airstrike"

I hope this isn't true.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (Gqgs8)

536 Does Dana Perino ever go home from FOX to be with her family?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (fqERy)

537 487 In the Andy Griffith Show, Opie was a metaphor for the rampant drug use that was seen on the horizon. He was a youngster while Odis was old and alcoholic. On the way out. Barney was a metaphor for the rising acceptance of homosexuality and Andy as the bi-curious confirmed bachelor. The town of Mayberry was seen as doomed. As in, "may bury." Aunt Bea was actually death. Biding her time...
___________________________________




If Barney was the gay guy, what the fuck was I?

Posted by: Floyd the Barber at April 13, 2017 01:54 PM (4AVeu)

538 I followed her doctor out into the hall and said look I know how those work and when we press the button if it's outside the programmed time it's not actually doing anything, right?

He started to hem and haw and then realized I wouldn't buy it and shrugged and said nope but it makes the family think it's helping and that's worth a lot.

-
All I know is Bill O'Reilly's looking out for me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:54 PM (Nwg0u)

539 If Barney was the gay guy, what the fuck was I?
Posted by: Floyd the Barber

the town molester

Posted by: Rick in SK at April 13, 2017 01:54 PM (FZYNt)

540 Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:45 PM (noWW6)

No meds my entire life until 65 when I got cancer. Then again a year later with a complimentary 3 day dose of internal radiation. Glad to be alive, but yes, there is that Y cross over whatever pain, and I do take meds. Taking the edge off so I can function is worth it to me

Government interference is to make the bureaucrats feel in control and good about helping the addicts. People, needing meds for genuine pain, are now totally screwed and must perform circus acts for the pharma nazis to get what they are prescribed.

Little rant.


Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 01:54 PM (OU4q6)

541 535 Bad grids.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:55 PM (eZ0Cd)

542 Jeeziz what waz that?

Windows just shook

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands

Where are you located? Window movement is usually earthquake.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum




Or a MOAB.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 01:55 PM (uh5kC)

543
My only routine medication is L-thyroxine for hypothyroidism. I almost never take any medication for discomfort or pain.

Mrs. Krebs knows immediately something is wrong with me whenever I ask where the OTC meds are. If I schedule a non-routine visit to our PCP, she really flips out.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 13, 2017 01:55 PM (v1g1+)

544 Avatar should have been named Smurf'n'gully.


Posted by: Tom Servo
-----
Probably the most successful shit movie ever. What a piece of crap.

I also have a theory that it was also the most successful fake viral marketing campaign ever with all the hoopla about the vivid colors and people wanting to live in the movie. Not buying that at all.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 01:55 PM (8b+oT)

545 Get your celebratory Hoagies and Pancakes here.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (6gk0M)

546 So is gabapenton, but they can both be used to control neuropathic pain.

Posted by: USNtakim
===


Why in the world would a doctor give an anti-seizure med to a pain patient?

Pick a pill. Any pill.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (5FLKM)

547 Pretty soon we'll be nation building again.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (SeeoR)

548 Andy Griffith -

Andy is a corrupt sheriff. Barney is his trigger happy lieutenant. Floyd the Barber - hit man. Opie is Andy's half wit son, trying to make a name for himself and building his reputation. Aunt Bea is just Andy's clueless aunt.

All of the episodes are really a recounting of events by Andy at his trial for corruption and murder, etc. So he's trying to make everyone seem like innocent yokels when in fact they are the core of an interstate crime ring.

Whatever happened to Barney's moll, Thelma Lou? She just disappeared never to return.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (SP6Ke)

549 I personally thought it was a good law that pharma couldn't advertise. That's how it used to be but the laws were changed


---------

Compound patents are granted for 20 years. Drug development now takes 12-14 years. That leaves the pharma companies only 6 to 8 years to make up the cost of development, which now average over $2.5bn per compound. Then they have to also pay for the research that went into 9 other failed compounds that never made it to market.

You don't want the pharma companies to advertise? Fine. I get it. But if you keep putting roadblocks in the way of pharmas making back their research and development costs then you're going to get less medicines and of poorer quality. The generics will not have much to copy at that point.

Note that as of November 2016, the International Council on Harmonization has released new "guidelines" that basically add a whole new level of requirements on top of the already voluminous guidelines and regulations governing drug development so the costs aren't going down anytime soon - and believe me, we're desperately trying to do so.

Disclaimer, I work for a company that performs clinical trial services for the pharmaceutical industry.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (a9n6M)

550 #527

So what now?
==============

Beats me. If those tunnels were full of the 2016/2017 opium crop, the ISI will have to come up with an alternative funding source.

Posted by: mrp at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (Pqytn)

551 "18 Syrian Fighters Allied with US Are Killed in Coalition Airstrike"

I hope this isn't true

-
Don't worry. It's not true. They weren't actually allied with us.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (Nwg0u)

552 OK, time for a bit of "smart military blog".

Tactical use of MOABs aside, the fundamental unaddressed strategic proposition in re Afghanistan is that the Pakistani ISI have every intent of preventing a government being stood up next door that's not under their sway. It's their back yard. They intend to keep it such.

And Pakistani soil continues to be a training, reequipping, logistics, medical, and staging center for Taliban Timmy on his way into and out of campaigning in Afghanistan.

Trump ain't gonna be dropping any Schlong Bombs on the Pakis, one of the most heavily nuclear-armed states on the planet for their size.

So what now?
--

I'll take a swing.

As per my earlier comment, those in India seem OK with this move.

Perhaps it's time for Herr Ubergruppenfuhrer Trump to have a conversation with our friends in India about Pakistan.

Or maybe he already has.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (FkAXz)

553 529
I thought we had an even bigger one that was more dedicated to bunker busting? the GBU-57A/B/? a 30k pounder maybe?


Posted by: Bob in Houston-Vast Right Wing Basket of deplorable! at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (XRxxn)

Close enough for news.

Posted by: shit bit at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (1isJI)

554 "The second video below shows the test detonation. It has a blast radius of a mile."

***

The first video shows CNN, which suffocates every brain cell in airport and health club viewing areas while leaving the physical enclosure intact.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (5JlYa)

555
Government interference is to make the bureaucrats feel in control and good about helping the addicts. People, needing meds for genuine pain, are now totally screwed and must perform circus acts for the pharma nazis to get what they are prescribed.

Little rant.

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 01:54 PM (OU4q6)


Little rant, yes, but a great truth as well.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (v1g1+)

556 The lovely Trish Regan is wearing a black top, with a black leather (or fake leather - does it really matter?) front. Yum.

Much cognitive dissonance as she talks about ISIS scum crawling through tunnels....


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (8iiMU)

557 539 the town molester
__________________________

Wait. If Floyd was the town molester, what the fuck was I?

Posted by: Howard Sprague at April 13, 2017 01:57 PM (4AVeu)

558
f Barney was the gay guy, what the fuck was I?
Posted by: Floyd the Barber


Demon barber of Main Street

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2017 01:57 PM (IqV8l)

559 "I have a problem with the 'all pain must be eliminated' mentality"

I'd love for you to meet some of the people I've known who were, regardless of how many opioids they took, in continuing pain every waking and sleeping hour.

(And the loss of sleep makes it still more devilish. Fatigue slowly wears you down to a nub.)

They'd have been praying every damn day for an opioid that would eliminate all pain. No such thing appears to exist. What they got by taking opioid painkillers was a reduction in pain to where they could somewhat manage to see their day through.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:57 PM (noWW6)

560 They weren't actually allied with us.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (Nwg0u)

Well, for the purposes of getting good boots and nice weapons they were.

But that whole, "Don't shoot at our side" part? Yeah....you're right.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 01:58 PM (rF0hx)

561 That disturbance in the space-time Continuum that you just heard was Kim Jong-Un's sphincter snapping shut when he saw this news.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 13, 2017 01:58 PM (WgTlh)

562 If Barney was the gay guy, what the fuck was I?

Posted by: Floyd the Barber
----
Pedophile. Always talking about a little trim. Sicko.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 01:58 PM (8b+oT)

563 I'll take a swing.

As per my earlier comment, those in India seem OK with this move.

Perhaps it's time for Herr Ubergruppenfuhrer Trump to have a conversation with our friends in India about Pakistan.

Or maybe he already has.
Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (FkAXz)


I can't believe that India and Pakistan haven't lit each other up yet.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 01:59 PM (mf5HN)

564 Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 01:51 PM (5FLKM)

It's in the anti-convulsant class of drugs that was developed to treat diabetic neuropathic pain. I don't know what your point is.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 01:59 PM (jl269)

565 "I can't believe that India and Pakistan haven't lit each other up yet."

Mutually Assured Destruction?

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 02:00 PM (SIY7D)

566 Moab has got something cool for us dinophiles. Dinosaur mods/statues out in the open kinda like real life.

http://moabgiants.com

Next time the grandkids come, we're going.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:46 PM (Nwg0u)

Drumheller, Alberta, home to the Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology, also has a large number of dinosaur statues scattered around the town, on sidewalks and in parks. Some are sort of cartoonish, and some are quite realistic.

About an hour away from stately Peon Manor.


http://www.bigthings.ca/alberta/prehist.html

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2017 02:00 PM (0deF2)

567 >>>Get your celebratory Hoagies and Pancakes here.

:::elbows old women and stiff arms children to get to the front of the pancake line:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 13, 2017 02:00 PM (igd3d)

568
People, needing meds for genuine pain, are now totally screwed and
must perform circus acts for the pharma nazis to get what they are
prescribed.
===

You can thank "Fibromyalgia" and other such made up diseases for that one.

The biggest chunk of the nervous system is the brain. Doctors who make up "syndromes" and dispense anti-seizure meds and opioids to frantic, overweight hausfraus are doing them no favors.

They just want the hypochondriacs to go away.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 02:00 PM (5FLKM)

569 546 So is gabapenton, but they can both be used to control neuropathic pain.

Posted by: USNtakim
===


Why in the world would a doctor give an anti-seizure med to a pain patient?

Pick a pill. Any pill.


When you live with an incurable non treatable condition you take what you can get. Shrinkage of my cerebellum and pons along with damage to my long nerves combined with the hereditary nature of this disease has made my life a real shitshow and I have a long slow downhill path to go.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 02:01 PM (hMqvx)

570 Shazam! If anyone is going to be sucking c*ck in Mayberry, it's me.

Surprise, surprise, surprise!

Posted by: Gomer Pyle at April 13, 2017 02:01 PM (4AVeu)

571 Insomniac, I do have sympathy for some of those who get hooked, because a LOT of them are just stupid kids. They use them, their friends use them, and they DIE. My daughter who is now 26 has seen a number of her friends from high school days (a high school in a nice, suburban neighborhood) die from this.

Way, WAY different from the death rate of my high school friends. I inagine most of them think it's not much more dangerous than smoking grass, and if course *they* aren't going to get hooked. But man, it's easy to get hooked on opioids. (Which is my favorite drug, by the way, for after a surgery or dental surgery.)

So I hear of one after another of these kids dying - and the nerve-wracking tales of ones hooked now and flirting with death every day - and it is truly awful. And awful for their parents.

Posted by: Alana at April 13, 2017 02:01 PM (+fE76)

572 *sends parallamas to kneecap BSG*

Mutually Assured Destruction?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 02:00 PM (SIY7D)


India and Pakistan are in the as long as that bitch dies I don't care if I fall off the cliff too camp.

Now that India is clawing its way into have a semblance of a middle class, that may be changing.

Posted by: alexthechick - most delicatest flowerest of innocent virtuest at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM (mf5HN)

573
I always thought it was weird that NOBODY in Mayberry was married.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM (8XRCm)

574 I wonder if they're handing out candy in Ramallah?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM (QtQaN)

575 I can definitely see how you can get hooked on pain killers. I broke my collar bone and the docs threw a bottle of oxycontin at me. I fell in love with the stuff and quickly decided I either needed to regulate myself or make some bad choices. So I limited myself to a half-dose twice a day instead of a full dose 2 to 3 times a day. It was enough to take the edge off of the pain. I was kind of sad when I got down to my last pill. That's when I knew I should probably never try meth or any of the sexy stuff kids are into these days...I value gainful employment...and my teeth.

Posted by: Doc Creep at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM (j4lGq)

576 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2017 02:00 PM (0deF2)


I visited Drumheller as a kid. Back in the 1970's. I thought it was pretty neat.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM (hLRSq)

577 It's in the anti-convulsant class of drugs that was developed to treat diabetic neuropathic pain.

===

It was developed to treat epilepsy.

My point is overdiagnosis is what got us to where we are.

Everybody does not need a pill.

Not sure what your point is.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM (5FLKM)

578 >>I can't believe that India and Pakistan haven't lit each other up yet.

As corrupt as the leadership has consistently been in both countries, particularly Pakistan, I think they are both sane enough to know that whomever uses a nuke first is guaranteed to have a worldwide can of whoop ass opened on them in return.

Which is why having nukes in the hands of terrorists or madmen such as L'il Kim scares the shit out of me. They don't seem to care about the blowback or are to crazy to think about ramifications.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2017 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

579 Putting the ban back into Taliban.

Posted by: DaveA at April 13, 2017 02:03 PM (FhXTo)

580 I made sammiches---->

Subs, Rolls, Hoagies, Grinders, you name it.

$5.50 each.

+.50 for extra cheese or dressing.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 02:03 PM (6gk0M)

581 Wasn't Tall Boy 20,000 lbs.?

*scurries off to check*
Nah. Only 12,000 lbs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 02:03 PM (ZO497)

582 When you want them to hear you all the way in Pakistan.

Posted by: DaveA at April 13, 2017 02:03 PM (FhXTo)

583 The best review I've seen for Avatar was "It's like dating a beautiful retard."

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 02:03 PM (7HtZB)

584 Posted by: Bill Wynn at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (SeeoR)

It might be as soon as tonight. Early, even

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 13, 2017 02:03 PM (eXSOZ)

585 Nukes are more efficient.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:04 PM (eZ0Cd)

586 Tall Boy

-----

You mean Little Boy??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 02:04 PM (8XRCm)

587 I can't believe that India and Pakistan haven't lit each other up yet.
--

Agree 100%.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 02:04 PM (FkAXz)

588 Trish Regan wearing leather. That is all.

Posted by: #neverskankles at April 13, 2017 02:04 PM (ni9pL)

589 "Tall Boy" is a 16 oz. Beer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 02:05 PM (6gk0M)

590 I always picked Floyd as a dedicated NAMBLA representative.

And I cringed whenever he gave that smile of his to Opie.

The only normal one on the show was Ernest T. Bass. That's why he threw rocks at the rest of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 13, 2017 02:05 PM (KeRkT)

591 Fat Man would be more appropriate.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:05 PM (eZ0Cd)

592 544
Avatar should have been named Smurf'n'gully.




Posted by: Tom Servo
-----
Probably the most successful shit movie ever. What a piece of crap.

I
also have a theory that it was also the most successful fake viral
marketing campaign ever with all the hoopla about the vivid colors and
people wanting to live in the movie. Not buying that at all.


Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 01:55 PM (8b+oT)

Yeppers on this! You don't see everyone scrambling to do Avatar II do you?

Posted by: Publius Redux at April 13, 2017 02:05 PM (Fb9aZ)

593 Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 01:55 PM (eZ0Cd)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 01:56 PM (Nwg0u)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 01:58 PM (rF0hx)

Thanks, guys.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 02:05 PM (Gqgs8)

594 --
--
I always thought it was weird that NOBODY in Mayberry was married.


Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM

-------------

Well, you see, it was supposed to be an idyllic place.

Posted by: irright at April 13, 2017 02:05 PM (pMGkg)

595 I always thought it was weird that NOBODY in Mayberry was married.>>>

IIRC Otis had a wife. She drove him to drink.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 13, 2017 02:06 PM (VHt7K)

596 If it were a Last Resort, I'd throw a Tall Boy at a bunch of Japs/Arabs.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 02:06 PM (6gk0M)

597 587 I can't believe that India and Pakistan haven't lit each other up yet.
--

Agree 100%.
Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 02:04 PM (FkAXz)

The McDonalds theory at work.

Posted by: #neverskankles at April 13, 2017 02:06 PM (ni9pL)

598 So what now?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 01:52 PM (noWW6)

Carpet-bomb Pakistan with nukes. Nobody will miss them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 13, 2017 02:06 PM (0deF2)

599 The best review I've seen for Avatar was "It's like dating a beautiful retard."
---

hahahaha.

brilliant.

I've never seen Avatar, but 'dating a beautiful retard' seems very 'style over substance' to me, which is a liberal hallmark.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 02:06 PM (FkAXz)

600 You can thank "Fibromyalgia" and other such made up diseases for that one.

The biggest chunk of the nervous system is the brain. Doctors who make up "syndromes" and dispense anti-seizure meds and opioids to frantic, overweight hausfraus are doing them no favors.

They just want the hypochondriacs to go away.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER !


Agree - to some respect. As to fibromyalgia - I had 27 months of incessant back pain after an auto accident. I'm a no drug type guy. It was real pain, but there was no reason for it.

So I adopted a different approach than babying myself. I actively started to cause my back to have actual pain from work and exercise. Within three months the 'phantom pain' went away.

Nerves just get funked up sometimes, is all I can figure.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 02:06 PM (HTdUD)

601 Now THIS, this is how you manspread, folks.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (GX63o)

602 Heh.

USAF: "Sorry, we're overbooked"

MOAB: "What?!"

USAF: "Yeah, this is where you get off."

MOAB: "Well, I'm going to make a lot of trouble..."

USAF: "Right."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (ZO497)

603 If Barney was the gay guy, what the fuck was I?

Posted by: Floyd the Barber at April 13, 2017 01:54 PM (4AVeu)


Pre-op tranny.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (X6fMO)

604 What exactly did it accomplish and what happened to Daisy Cutters? I thought the purpose of these was to incinerate the air or at least suck the air out of the tunnel complexes. Is that correct & did it accomplish that?

Posted by: Bear Grylls at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (GMQML)

605 I always picked Floyd as a dedicated NAMBLA representative.

Are you saying that Floyd was the one who was Pink?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (7uYFy)

606 I'm starting rooster crown therapy on my knee and getting the bone spur shaved off.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (fcBnw)

Tumeric is a great anti-inflammatory that has saved my knees from surgical replacement. Toss in UC-II collagen and you have a very potent mix. I Take 500 mg every day.

Hope you get relief.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 02:08 PM (Z7b/F)

607
Yeppers on this! You don't see everyone scrambling to do Avatar II do you?
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 13, 2017 02:05 PM (Fb9aZ)


Sadly they have like 4 sequels in the works right now and a land at Disney proposed for some reason...

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 13, 2017 02:08 PM (nAWMW)

608 "Insomniac, I do have sympathy for some of those who get hooked, because a
LOT of them are just stupid kids. They use them, their friends use
them, and they DIE."

The vast, vast majority of "recreational" drug users (to include dumb young kids) who overdose on opioids do so because their dose isn't correctly calibrated. It's not that they're intending to die.

Just letting them openly purchase the stuff in a controlled, monitored way, where they know exactly what they're getting and how large a dose it is, provably does slash OD death rates.

The UK did it just that way for a number of years, in one of the few sensible medical measures that country has come up with in the modern era. Of course, now they too have succumbed to neoprohibitionism on the subject.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 02:08 PM (noWW6)

609 Make America kaboom again

Posted by: Smackdab at April 13, 2017 02:08 PM (9WAWh)

610 This doc pulls no punches about the "chronic pain" industry.
=====

I kept my GP until he died because he would not prescribe antibiotics unless it was a true infection. In my area, there were kids who were on antibiotics every other month for essentially colds. Nobody stopped it or pointed out the dangers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2017 02:09 PM (MIKMs)

611 Hope Fat Boy saw it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:09 PM (KlI/a)

612 Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 02:00 PM (5FLKM)

I agree. And the pill mills. But the government "solution" as usual, penalizes those who need it, and does very little indeed to keep drugs off the street.

Old argument. Is what it is. But I have seen some very sad old, vulnerable, defenseless people suffer as a result and it breaks your heart.

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 02:10 PM (OU4q6)

613 605
I always picked Floyd as a dedicated NAMBLA representative.



Are you saying that Floyd was the one who was Pink?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (7uYFy)

Well played, sir, well played!!!(Come in here dear boy, have a ceegar, you're gonna go far!)

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 13, 2017 02:10 PM (KeRkT)

614 Wonder what a MOAB would do to Tahiti?

Just curious

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:11 PM (KlI/a)

615 577 It's in the anti-convulsant class of drugs that was developed to treat diabetic neuropathic pain.

===

It was developed to treat epilepsy.

My point is overdiagnosis is what got us to where we are.

Everybody does not need a pill.

Not sure what your point is.


Fuck.... I did not choose my condition or my family... We live with chronic pain not by choice... we do not want this we did not ask for this... we don't even want the drugs... IT IS OUR ONLY CHOICE. (please google Spinocerebellar ataxia). To take effective pain control away is evil.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 02:11 PM (hMqvx)

616 The daughter of that ass-whipped doctor is sort of hawt.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 13, 2017 02:11 PM (8iiMU)

617 595 I always thought it was weird that NOBODY in Mayberry was married.>>>
________________________

Actually, the show broadcast the first same-sex marriage.

Barney got dressed up in a wedding dress and for the ceremony with Ernest T. Bass.

Technically, it was a same sex marriage.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 13, 2017 02:12 PM (4AVeu)

618 With this constant Dr. Dao dragging coverage on cable I now have mild PTSD. Who can I sue?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 02:12 PM (fqERy)

619 I always thought Barney was into butt stuff with orientals the way he was always yammering on about how you have to nip it in the bud.

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 02:12 PM (X6fMO)

620 "Nukes are more efficient."

Yeah, I wonder just what a conventional overpressure bomb would do damagewise against a genuinely hardened tunnel complex. My guess is not much.

The Viet Cong survived Arc Light strikes in tunnels that were just dug in dirt. No ferroconcrete or other industrial engineering.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 02:12 PM (noWW6)

621 The Trump administration is weighing the possibility of imposing additional sanctions on North Korea if the rogue nation continues to fire missiles or conducts its sixth nuclear test.

Among the sanctions under consideration reportedly are an oil embargo, a ban on North Koreas national airline Air Koryo, and a crackdown on companies or individuals who do business with North Korea or lend financial support to its nuclear proliferation program.


?????
Ya mean we don't already do that? Man are we suckers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:13 PM (KlI/a)

622 "Now that India is clawing its way into have a semblance of a middle class, that may be changing."

You hadn't heard they demonetized their 1000 and 500 rupee notes? I've heard that has been a disaster for the middle class.

Posted by: Ok at April 13, 2017 02:13 PM (OE5e7)

623 I have zero sympathy for recreational drug users. Let them die, bloody stupid parasites.

I feel very bad for people with chronic pain, drugs are a godsend for them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 13, 2017 02:13 PM (xJa6I)

624
I kept my GP until he died because he would not prescribe antibiotics unless it was a true infection. In my area, there were kids who were on antibiotics every other month for essentially colds. Nobody stopped it or pointed out the dangers.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2017 02:09 PM (MIKMs)

My Wife is an orthopedist and won't prescribe pain killers.

People get pissed at her but she tells them that they'll end up thanking her.

My Father was addicted to pain killers after his knee was replaced. He replaced that addiction with rum when he couldn't get more pain killers. Then he got a bleeding ulcer and had to stop drinking and now just basically is a miserable bastard.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 13, 2017 02:13 PM (a9n6M)

625 One mile radius. That's two mile diameter. Sheesh.


Posted by: JAS at April 13, 2017 02:13 PM (lcylG)

626 --
--
Wonder what a MOAB would do to Tahiti?



Just curious

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:11 PM

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Don't know what else, but it for sure is gonna capsize!

Posted by: Hank Johnson at April 13, 2017 02:14 PM (pMGkg)

627 Well, it's good enough for the trailer...

Posted by: Michael Bey at April 13, 2017 02:14 PM (16OL0)

628 >>573 I always thought it was weird that NOBODY in Mayberry was married. Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 02:02 PM (8XRCm)

Heaven's Gate beta test.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 02:14 PM (Bdeb0)

629 First time in combat, but we use the term loosely.

Posted by: Mega at April 13, 2017 02:14 PM (O2xLa)

630
BREAKING:

LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.

See the sidebar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (mbhDw)

631 This must be our most classy bomb I'm guessing.

I wonder if anyone was in those tunnels.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (3myMJ)

632 The MOAB carries a mixture of TNT and powdered aluminum.

Is it a mix or just what's left of the lawn furniture?

Posted by: DaveA at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (FhXTo)

633 Another campaign promise kept -- "I'm going to bomb the sh!t out of ISIS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (lZaEn)

634 Even Hitler never dropped a bomb this large!

Posted by: Sean Spicer at April 13, 2017 02:16 PM (f4GSC)

635 630

*spurt*

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 02:16 PM (fqERy)

636
Tumeric is a great anti-inflammatory that has saved my knees from surgical replacement. Toss in UC-II collagen and you have a very potent mix. I Take 500 mg every day.

Hope you get relief.

Posted by: tbodie


Following an anti-inflammatory diet (of which tumeric would be included) and avoiding foods known to have an inflammatory effect saves my knees. Lyme disease started the issue.

I can completely understand why some people go under the knife. But when I feel the inflammation begin I change my eating habits and cut out the actual inflammatory source and problem disappears in about a week.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 02:16 PM (HTdUD)

637 What exactly did it accomplish and what happened to Daisy Cutters? I thought the purpose of these was to incinerate the air or at least suck the air out of the tunnel complexes. Is that correct & did it accomplish that?
Posted by: Bear Grylls at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (GMQML)


They were used to cut out clearings for firebases and helicopter landing sites in the jungle. They might have been effective on tunnels too, but I don't think that was their primary use.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 13, 2017 02:17 PM (8nWyX)

638 Even Hitler never dropped a bomb this large!
Posted by: Sean Spicer at April 13, 2017 02:16 PM (f4GSC)

OK even I find that kinda funny. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:17 PM (KlI/a)

639 620 "Nukes are more efficient."

Yeah, I wonder just what a conventional overpressure bomb would do damagewise against a genuinely hardened tunnel complex. My guess is not much.

The Viet Cong survived Arc Light strikes in tunnels that were just dug in dirt. No ferroconcrete or other industrial engineering.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 13, 2017 02:12 PM (noWW6)


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Bombs were quite effective against Charlie's tunnels. The failing was that we only bombed a small fraction of them. No one had any idea at the time how unbelievably vast the tunnel networks were.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2017 02:17 PM (Fmupd)

640 I've come to the conclusion that every Bill Wynn comment could be replaced by:

"Wahh Wahh, Snivel."

The essential message would still be there, every time.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:17 PM (3myMJ)

641 My first assignment was a medical hold unit managing soldiers with complex medical care. We saw everything from the guy who was blown up by an IED and had his skull rebuilt to the soldier run over by a humvee whose legs where shattered to TBI, PTSD, all the way to the jackass who fucked up his back jumping out of a deuce and a half. I'd say 90% of the "chronic pain" sufferers were full of shit. They wanted pain meds and the doctors were obligated to proscribe them. The barracks were awash in pills. Most of the pain could have been dealt with by lifestyle changes and physical therapy, but they'd rather get high and spend their day playing xbox rather than do their exercises and go on a diet. Ironically, the ones worst off were the least problematic. They'd do what was required to minimize their pain without drugs, and take the minimum dose necessary to function.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 13, 2017 02:17 PM (Tnhbr)

642 I am strangely damp

Posted by: Bill Hedrick at April 13, 2017 02:17 PM (Q/8iA)

643 >>631
This must be our most classy bomb I'm guessing.
Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (3myMJ)

The post-detonation area was subsequently chaffed with thousands of MAGA hats. Years from now, you'll still be able to find them worn there.

Millenia from now, alien archaeologists will scratch their grey heads in puzzlement.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 02:18 PM (Bdeb0)

644

Per Johns Hopkins "Spinocerebellar ataxia" does not include pain as a symptom.


Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 02:18 PM (5FLKM)

645
LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.



See the sidebar.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (mbhDw)

The only way this day would be better is if I got a job.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 02:18 PM (uKRys)

646 27 I would love for the USA to put the final boot to the face of the Taliban/al'Qaeda over there then pull out entirely. We gave you what you need to rebuild, whether you do or not is up to you.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Periodically use disinfectant?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at April 13, 2017 02:18 PM (di1hb)

647 I've come to the conclusion that every Bill Wynn comment could be replaced by:

"Wahh Wahh, Snivel."

The essential message would still be there, every time.

***

All trolls are Average Joe, who sucks cocks by choice.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 02:18 PM (3qbs3)

648 Are we sure this was a bomb exploding and not just Trump sending out another tweet?

Posted by: zombie at April 13, 2017 02:18 PM (DQ4Fv)

649 . This is what was meant by "alternate truth" as awkward as a phrase as it was.
-------------

What she meant by "alternative facts" was facts that were true but did not fit the media's carefully honed narrative. Literally "other" facts. Poor phrasing but entirely accurate.

Posted by: Mega at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (O2xLa)

650 Quick! Drop another while all the assholes are standing around assessing the damage.


Posted by: JAS at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (lcylG)

651 >>630
BREAKING:

LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.

See the sidebar.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (mbhDw)

Flaming skull time.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (Gqgs8)

652 I think the tunnel bombs are called thermobaric.

Posted by: irright at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (pMGkg)

653 How many jails does the House GOP have?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (eZ0Cd)

654

"Mother of All Bombs, my arse!"

- - Zombie Barnes Wallis

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (mbhDw)

655 536
Does Dana Perino ever go home from FOX to be with her family?


Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 01:53 PM (fqERy)***I hear she spends some time with the Bush Family. I think that works for her.

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (OU4q6)

656 BREAKING:



LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.



See the sidebar.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton

====




Is this tingly feeling what they call "winning"?

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (5FLKM)

657 How many jails does the House GOP have?

***

All of them.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (3qbs3)

658 Bombs were quite effective against Charlie's tunnels. The failing was that we only bombed a small fraction of them. No one had any idea at the time how unbelievably vast the tunnel networks were.

FAE-equipped robot, anyone?

Posted by: JEM at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (TppKb)

659 BREAKING:



LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.



See the sidebar.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton
-----

LIGHT THE SKULL! LIGHT THE SKULL!!!!

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (8b+oT)

660 >>>600

I actively started to cause my back to have actual pain from work and exercise. Within three months the 'phantom pain' went away.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 02:06 PM (HTdUD)

That's really great. I'm glad you could do that.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (Gqgs8)

661 >>>Actually, the show broadcast the first same-sex marriage.<<<

Wasn't there a spin-off show? Mayberry F.A.G.

Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (2Mnv1)

662 Sheesh.

Posted by: JAS at April 13, 2017 02:13 PM (lcylG)

That seems a bit large. But I'm not saying anything until Ace pays the dental plan premiums for this year.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (rF0hx)

663 BREAKING: House GOP to File Criminal Charges Against Lois Lerner. ( J.J. Sefton )

Hmm.

Seems like a pretty big thing.

Big enough for some comment.

Big enough for something that is put on a interconnected bulletin board like thing where people regularly visit to read news and commentary like things.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 02:21 PM (GgzGa)

664 >>>LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.

These are like love words. I'm in a swoon.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 02:21 PM (Gqgs8)

665 Big enough for something that is put on a interconnected bulletin board like thing where people regularly visit to read news and commentary like things.

***

But where would we find such a wonderful thing?

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 02:21 PM (3qbs3)

666 Trump dropped a MOAB on Lois?

Now we're talking!

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:21 PM (3myMJ)

667 Reading the Marvel SJW article in the sidebar - one anti-Christian bigot in the comments claims that the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone until it became Christian. That just may be the single most stupid thing I have ever read.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (7HtZB)

668
Lemme see if I don't stomp on Ace or a cob and I'll make a new post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (mbhDw)

669 She'll take the Fifth.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (eZ0Cd)

670 I heard a guy once describe painkillers given in the hospital as "liquid Christmas."

Posted by: Whatserface, pontificating at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (jVlNS)

671
So I adopted a different approach than babying myself. I actively started to cause my back to have actual pain from work and exercise. Within three months the 'phantom pain' went away.


In taking up making cabochons -- shaped and polished rocks and minerals -- I've encountered the "healing powers of crystals" crowd.

My own interpretation and imaginary conversation: "Where does it hurt? Your knee? *grabs crystal and smacks respondent in head with it * Your knee discomfort isn't as bothersome anymore, correct? Behold! the awesome healing power of crystals!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (v1g1+)

672 I actively started to cause my back to have actual pain from work and
exercise. Within three months the 'phantom pain' went away.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum

====

I have a LOT of shoulder pain from old injuries.

High rep low weight exercise ( and ibuprofen) always helps. But I am inconsistent. And the pain comes back. Which reminds me to be more consistent.

When my arms fall off, I'll consider a pill.

Until then, nope.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 02:23 PM (5FLKM)

673 Lois! Quick! Hide inside my butt! They'll never find you in there.

Posted by: Hope Solo at April 13, 2017 02:23 PM (7T8jT)

674 She'll take the Fifth.
Posted by: Boss Moss


Sorry, shortie. The orange suit comes in Small, Medium, Large, or XL.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 02:23 PM (GgzGa)

675 Reading the Marvel SJW article in the sidebar - one anti-Christian bigot in the comments claims that the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone until it became Christian. That just may be the single most stupid thing I have ever read.

***

They never could've become Christian if they hadn't executed Jesus in the first place.

Posted by: clint flicker at April 13, 2017 02:23 PM (3qbs3)

676 637 What exactly did it accomplish and what happened to Daisy Cutters? I thought the purpose of these was to incinerate the air or at least suck the air out of the tunnel complexes. Is that correct & did it accomplish that?
Posted by: Bear Grylls at April 13, 2017 02:07 PM (GMQML)


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Daisy Cutters weren't fuel-air bombs. They used standard explosive. And they were used primarily as a forest clearing tool chopper landing sites. It also got rid of pesky NVA that might also be in the immediate area.

Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2017 02:24 PM (Fmupd)

677 >>LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.


ABOUT DANG TIME

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 02:24 PM (NOIQH)

678 LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.
__________

I've checked, and there's no way we can pass a funding bill that would permit this.

Not the hill to die on, peons.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at April 13, 2017 02:24 PM (j+dfT)

679 LIGHT THE SKULL! LIGHT THE SKULL!!!!
Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 02:20 PM (8b+oT)


SWEEP THE LEG!

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 13, 2017 02:25 PM (Tnhbr)

680 It will be interesting to see how many Republican's are unmasked during the Lerner trial.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 02:25 PM (fqERy)

681 We are offering pro bono defense services to Lois Lerner.

This is CNN.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:25 PM (3myMJ)

682 one anti-Christian bigot in the comments claims that the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone until it became Christian. That just may be the single most stupid thing I have ever read.
____________

I don't even know what to say to that.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 02:25 PM (FqgrG)

683 If any anyone has chronic pain, I would recommend reading Dr Sarno's book Healing Back Pain. It may help if everything else has failed.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 02:25 PM (jl269)

684 BREAKING:

LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.

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Holy shit! Felonia von Pantsuit may not be out of the woods either.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 02:25 PM (Nwg0u)

685 Could someone please tell us if we should shit or go blind?

Posted by: Washington Press Corps at April 13, 2017 02:26 PM (5FLKM)

686 I really dislike the idea of giving* junkies the narcan pens to save their lives when they overdose on illegal sh*t that they're injecting into their eyeballs. They're not getting stung by wasps or eating peanut butter accidentally, and I'm not convinced it saves taxpayers any money. Not to mention the vast majority of them aren't exactly curing cancer or writing the great American novel.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at April 13, 2017 02:26 PM (t/Agz)

687 Uh... how does the House file criminal Charges?

They can ASK for the DOJ to file... but they can't...

Posted by: Don Q. at April 13, 2017 02:26 PM (NgKpN)

688 LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.



See the sidebar.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:15 PM (mbhDw)


I am not tired of winning yet. Ask me again in 2056.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 02:26 PM (hLRSq)

689 669 She'll take the Fifth.
Posted by: Boss Moss
______

Screw that, asshole. It's mine!

* downs entire bottle *

* takes her top off and flexes *

* belches *

* falls down *

* vomits *

Posted by: DistHillary at April 13, 2017 02:27 PM (j+dfT)

690 Lemme see if I don't stomp on Ace or a cob and I'll make a new post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Just post it. Fuck them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 02:27 PM (GgzGa)

691 644

Per Johns Hopkins "Spinocerebellar ataxia" does not include pain as a symptom.

I know what I am talking about here... believe me it dose... I do not take any drugs other than than gabapenton right now but my condition will progress there is no stopping it neropathic pain in the hands and feet is a very real problem. Johns Hopkins is less of an expert here than my family.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 02:27 PM (hMqvx)

692 --
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Could someone please tell us if we should shit or go blind?


Posted by: Washington Press Corps at April 13, 2017 02:26 PM

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Something wrong with "and"?

Posted by: irright at April 13, 2017 02:27 PM (pMGkg)

693 The befuddled Trish Regan...a screamer?

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 02:27 PM (fqERy)

694 BREAKING:

LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.

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Nope. Still not tired of winning.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 02:28 PM (Nwg0u)

695 the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone
until it became Christian. That just may be the single most stupid thing
I have ever read.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (7HtZB)

Oh my! That's in the running.

I assume your next words were; "You can't possibly be that fvcking stupid!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2017 02:28 PM (rF0hx)

696 Could someone please tell us if we should shit or go blind?
Posted by: Washington Press Corps




Embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 02:28 PM (uh5kC)

697 Not 30' ... not 31' ... not even 30' 6".

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 13, 2017 01:15 PM (BEMJs)

I bet that specific length is dictated by the C130's cargo bay dimensions.


I like the 40.05 diameter - because even an aluminum tube swells when you put 10 tons of explosive in it.

Posted by: DaveA at April 13, 2017 02:28 PM (FhXTo)

698 "Dr Sarno's book Healing Back Pain."

I remember that guy!

"Your back hurts because you're mad.

Don't be mad."

Just saved you 200 pages of reading.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:29 PM (3myMJ)

699 LOIS LERNER HIT WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES FROM HOUSE GOP FOR IRS SCANDAL.


My schadenboner just knocked out a United Airlines customer and dragged it off the plane.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 02:29 PM (s/EUv)

700 Killing actual enemies?

I approve.

Posted by: Methos, back to wait and see at April 13, 2017 02:29 PM (3Liv/)

701 Carthago delenda est.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:29 PM (eZ0Cd)

702 Why an anticonvusive for neuropathic pain? Well because its a different beast compared to normal musculoskeletal pain. It arises from damaged or destroyed nerves, not stimulus of pain receptors. To put it in layman's terms, you have to calm down the nervous system so its not reacting to the nerve damage. Thats why you use Gabapentin (which really is no longer used as an antiepileptic all that often) or Lyrica. Thats also why some antidepressants are effective, they have similar effects on how the brain processes those signals from damaged nerves. To be clear, this is seperate from their antidepressant effects. Opiods are usually not a frst line option for neuropathic pain.
And as far as overdiagnosis is concerned: if someone comes in and says it feels like they're getting shocked or it feels like their feet are on fire, they need to get treated. Neuropathic pain absolutely destroys your quality of life.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 02:30 PM (fdyVM)

703 When my arms fall off, I'll consider a pill.
Until then, nope.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER

That's me, too. The wife also. She buys about two bottles of OTC painkillers a year. I have a 100 count $1.00 store bottle of aspirin I bought a couple years ago.

The wife works with the elderly. The healthiest, sharpest ones? No drugs. Exercise only.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 02:30 PM (HTdUD)

704 It will be interesting to see how many Republican's are unmasked during the Lerner trial. Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 02:25 PM (fqERy)
=====

Why the heck was it slow-walked? (R) creeps calling up insiders at the IRS to get rid of the Tea Party 'scourge'. McCain, et al, I'm looking at you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2017 02:30 PM (MIKMs)

705 Where's that guy who always wanted to "Scatter the Stones, etc." cause I think that just happened.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:31 PM (3myMJ)

706 Some guy in FOX just said that the Area Commander had the authority to drop the MOAB and did NOT need the White House's approval...Now THAT is the way to run a war

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:31 PM (KlI/a)

707 I needed Fentanyl -- and lots of it -- to get through the pain

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 13, 2017 02:32 PM (SIY7D)

708
CBD:

If you're here, check your e-mail

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:32 PM (mbhDw)

709 691 644

Per Johns Hopkins "Spinocerebellar ataxia" does not include pain as a symptom.

I know what I am talking about here... believe me it dose... I do not take any drugs other than than gabapenton right now but my condition will progress there is no stopping it neropathic pain in the hands and feet is a very real problem. Johns Hopkins is less of an expert here than my family.
Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 02:27 PM (hMqvx)

Damn dude. My sympathies. And yeah, anything CNS related can manifest neuropathic pain.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 02:32 PM (fdyVM)

710 There's a Man goin' 'round takin' names.

And he decides who's to free, who's to blame

And everyone won't be treated just the same.

The Golden Scalp Weasel will take IRS bitch down.

When the Man comes around.

Posted by: Johnny Cash at April 13, 2017 02:32 PM (7T8jT)

711 Does that come in a Root Beer Dum Dum?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:32 PM (eZ0Cd)

712 Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:29 PM (3myMJ)

Sure that's all he says. Must be a quack.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 02:32 PM (jl269)

713 >>Where's that guy who always wanted to "Scatter the Stones, etc." cause I think that just happened.



AllenG was here this morning!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 02:33 PM (NOIQH)

714 Morning horde, working a double tonight so got to sleep late.

What is this I hear about Lerner going to jail?

I best not still be dreaming.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at April 13, 2017 02:33 PM (72PAC)

715 the river beds of the Nile used to be and this is a game changer for archaeology and isn't it awesome?



Actual point of the presentation? Hey, USSR, we know where your underground nukes are.


http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rush/dreamline.html

I wonder if Neil Peart knows.

Posted by: DaveA at April 13, 2017 02:34 PM (FhXTo)

716 If the Lois Lerner criminal charges get anywhere, here's my list of her Republican helpers:

McCain
Miss Lindsay
Orrin Hatch
Lisa Mrgasmorskgy
Mish McConnell

Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 02:34 PM (j+dfT)

717 the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone
until it became Christian. That just may be the single most stupid thing
I have ever read.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (7HtZB)


There was that whole Masada thing, but that really doesn't count because Vespasian was not worse than Trump.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 02:34 PM (hLRSq)

718 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 02:28 PM (Nwg0u)

AND I read that Brian Terry's killer has been arrested in Mexico. If that works out, one more thing the Obama Administration could not do in 8 years.

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 02:35 PM (OU4q6)

719 CNN reporter couldn't even get the Acronym correct. Well done guys. Well done.

Posted by: adc at April 13, 2017 02:36 PM (hdLuS)

720 >>AND I read that Brian Terry's killer has been arrested in Mexico. If
that works out, one more thing the Obama Administration could not do in 8
years.


Yes. Now that sens an excellent message: not only will we remove Mexico's criminal aliens from the US, we'll hunt down the ones who kill our Border Patrol guys in Mexico.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 02:37 PM (NOIQH)

721 NSA reports increased volume of Korean peninsula ching-chong-ching-chong chatter.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 02:38 PM (Bdeb0)

722 Newd.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:38 PM (eZ0Cd)

723 708; Sefton, checked out Muscle Shoals. Great stuff. Thanks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 13, 2017 02:38 PM (KP5rU)

724 "Mother of All Bombs, my arse!"



- - Zombie Barnes Wallis





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 13, 2017 02:19 PM (mbhDw)

"Mother Of All Bombs, my ass!!"

Posted by: Gigli at April 13, 2017 02:38 PM (8iiMU)

725 "But this is one of those "TruCon" issues that the public is best served when Big Business gets to do whatever they want."

Dorothy called, wants to know if Scarecrow can leave now.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 13, 2017 02:39 PM (wKLtz)

726 >>There was that whole Masada thing, but that really doesn't count because Vespasian was not worse than Trump. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory
Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 02:34 PM (hLRSq)

Trump's last e-meter session indicated that Trump actually *is* Vespasian. Saving the earth, one operating thetan at a time.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 02:39 PM (Bdeb0)

727 This is one yuge microagression.

Quick, more crayons and puppies for the snowflakes!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 13, 2017 02:39 PM (s7vJs)

728 717 the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone
until it became Christian. That just may be the single most stupid thing
I have ever read.

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 02:22 PM (7HtZB)


There was that whole Masada thing, but that really doesn't count because Vespasian was not worse than Trump.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 02:34 PM (hLRSq)
And the conquest of Egypt
And the conquest of Gaul
And the conquest of Carthage
And the conquest of Iberia
And the conquest of Britain
And the occupation of Dacia and Mesopotamia
All before Constantine I took the throne.
I could go on but I won't. This shithead actualy needs to pick up a book on Roman History before spouting off this stupidity.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 02:39 PM (fdyVM)

729 Lois Lerner needs to be made an example of. Her head needs to be (metaphorically) stuck on a pike as a warning to any bureaucrat shitstain who tries to politicize a government agency. And I'd like to play soccer with the head afterwards.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 13, 2017 02:39 PM (7T8jT)

730 Reports of nood are premature.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at April 13, 2017 02:40 PM (72PAC)

731 holy crap, Ace is shuffling the posts.

Posted by: ghbucky at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (D2q91)

732 @729

Soccer? Fag.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (nAWMW)

733 the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone


Uh ... then how did they come by an "empire?" Did they win it in Publishers' Clearinghouse or something?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (SRKgf)

734 Ignore the previous comment.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (72PAC)

735 I feel like I am back on drugs and in college?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (KlI/a)

736 Two stomps.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (eZ0Cd)

737
I know what I am talking about here... believe me it dose... I do
not take any drugs other than than gabapenton right now but my condition
will progress there is no stopping it neropathic pain in the hands and
feet is a very real problem. Johns Hopkins is less of an expert here
than my family.

Posted by: USNtakim at April 13, 2017 02:27 PM (hMqvx)
===

You said Google it and I did.

I am sorry for your situation and I hope that you find relief.

Posted by: Washington Press Corps at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (5FLKM)

738 >>>718 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 02:28 PM (Nwg0u)

AND I read that Brian Terry's killer has been arrested in Mexico. If that works out, one more thing the Obama Administration could not do in 8 years.
Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 02:35 PM (OU4q6)

And it only cost $250,000. That's what money is for.

Posted by: m at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (Gqgs8)

739 The COBs be gas-lighting us man!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 02:41 PM (uh5kC)

740 Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 02:34 PM (j+dfT)

Could you check that list again please. I am pretty sure I am on it. Last name R Y A N. Thanks.

Posted by: Paulie at April 13, 2017 02:42 PM (OU4q6)

741 Trump's saber-rattling is North Korea's propaganda dream come true.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at April 13, 2017 02:42 PM (SeeoR)

742 Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 02:32 PM (jl269)

He might have been quite right. I just specialize in short versions of books.

The Millionaire Next Door: "Start business, stay married, don't spend money, invest it."

So easy Bill Wynn could do it. Except the marriage part.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:43 PM (3myMJ)

743 the war against Mithridates of Pontus didn't count, then? or the squashing of the Jewish Revolt? because i recall some violence was involved in both, and the Christians weren't very involved in either

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 13, 2017 02:43 PM (vIgP8)

744 740 Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 02:34 PM (j+dfT)

Could you check that list again please. I am pretty sure I am on it. Last name R Y A N. Thanks.
Posted by: Paulie
______

Ah yes, Miss Ryan. We overlooked you because we were busy admiring Miss Lindsay's fabulous shoes.

Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 02:44 PM (j+dfT)

745 fuckin gerlado is talking about alexander the great?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 02:44 PM (KlI/a)

746 If you don't get'em, they will just dig deeper.

Posted by: Walknot at April 13, 2017 02:44 PM (FnHBZ)

747 "Trump's saber-rattling is North Korea's propaganda dream come true."

That's just what they want you to think.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 02:44 PM (eAZVt)

748 Not sure what effect a 21,000 lb high explosive air burst would have on tunnels and bunkers below. Forces might collapse them if not to deep, possibly. Might consume enough oxygen above ground to suck the air out of them. Probably would make one heck of a crater in any case.

Posted by: Javems at April 13, 2017 02:45 PM (yOqwj)

749 743 the war against Mithridates of Pontus didn't count, then? or the squashing of the Jewish Revolt? because i recall some violence was involved in both, and the Christians weren't very involved in either
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo
______

But what about THE CRUSADES?!!

Posted by: Low Information Ex-President at April 13, 2017 02:45 PM (j+dfT)

750 "one anti-Christian bigot in the comments claims that the Roman Empire never murdered or conquered anyone until it became Christian"

Carthage begs to differ. Begs to do anything, really.

The entire history of Rome until Augustus was supposedly peaceful? No Mithradates, no Gaul, no Roman civil war, no Spartacus, no Pyrrhus of Epirus, no Sabin women being molested?

The biggest tragedy of the collapse of education is how the ignorant have been taught they know everything.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 13, 2017 02:45 PM (wKLtz)

751 Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 02:44 PM (j+dfT)

Thank you. Perhaps you missed me because I self identify occasionally as a male.

Posted by: Paulie at April 13, 2017 02:47 PM (OU4q6)

752 751 . . . Thank you. Perhaps you missed me because I self identify occasionally as a male.
Posted by: Paulie
_____

But of course you do. Bless your heart.

Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 02:48 PM (j+dfT)

753 But of course you do. Bless your heart.

Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 02:48 PM (j+dfT)
HA.

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 02:50 PM (OU4q6)

754 The steering fins are eerily similar to those used by SpaceX to land their Falcon 9 first stage boosters. I wonder if someone at SpaceX remembered seeing the test video.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at April 13, 2017 02:51 PM (0W90B)

755 Posted by: Bill Wynn at April 13, 2017 02:42 PM (SeeoR)

So the inhabitants who are routinely told "ZOMG the US is going to bomb us!!!!" are going to be told "ZOMG the US is going to bomb us!!!!" about 5% more, and North Korea are going to continue telling everyone on the international stage that they need nukes for peaceful reasons because they're under non-nuclear threat.

"NK propaganda has moved from .02% credible to .03%, oh no"? Did you actually jam a tungsten rod through your nose and into your brain?

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 13, 2017 02:52 PM (eXSOZ)

756 Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 02:43 PM (3myMJ)

Have to say I agree 100% with your short Millionare book.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 02:54 PM (jl269)

757 Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 02:16 PM (HTdUD)

Not bomb worthy so I'll make it quick. How do you take your tumeric? Capsules are expensive. I use the juice and mix it with tea or lemonade for the day.

Posted by: gracepc at April 13, 2017 02:57 PM (OU4q6)

758 I do find it a bit funny that the MOAB manufacturer takes pains to make the bomb look really nice with shiny paint. Only the best for the Taliban!

Thanks @637 for answers to my question about Daisy Cutters.

Posted by: Bear Grylls at April 13, 2017 03:06 PM (GMQML)

759 I'm still trying to find browser for iPad because Mercury
disappeared when Apple tech restored my iPad.

But, I'm happy we dropped MOAB on ISIS!

Posted by: Carol at April 13, 2017 03:13 PM (sj3Ax)

760 Kim Jong Un has a worse haircut than Trump by miles. I'd be surprised if he hadn't executed a few barbers already.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 03:17 PM (jl269)

761 get some!

Posted by: elrobalo at April 13, 2017 03:24 PM (wH5Tk)

762 I think this bomb was a FOAB, weighing 30,000 lbs.

Posted by: Rdbrewer at April 13, 2017 03:40 PM (KUNWw)

763 In Soviet Russia, Connery and me get bombed and hit your mother. From above, and below.

Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Putin at April 13, 2017 03:46 PM (Vvawn)

764 Oh My God when will George Bush's wars end never it seems those poor innocent Muslims mostly women and children I'm sure God help us now maybe if we stopped killing them for no reason at all except Islamophobia then they wouldn't be forced to defend themselves at marathons and nightclubs and Christmas parties It's all the GOP's fault Maxine Waters for President And Elizabeth Warren And Michael Moore GOD the American people are so stupid how could they do this to us ISIS doesn't exist it's a lie made up by the Rethuglicans they're crazy it's so obvious

Posted by: Sam from Rhody, Now With More Welfare at April 13, 2017 03:49 PM (qYCgM)

765 It's Thomas Jefferson's birthday, the first U. S. President to face off with the Barbary Pirates- Islamic Pirates.

Posted by: Carol at April 13, 2017 04:14 PM (XG49+)

766 Why'd it take 16 years to use this? Are we half-assing?

Posted by: Rev Widowboner at April 13, 2017 04:35 PM (pv3gO)

767 691 644

Per Johns Hopkins "Spinocerebellar ataxia" does not include pain as a symptom.

You know, Mortimer, I'm trying REALLY HARD to not lose my shit on you right about now. You are being willfully obtuse. Use your favorite search engine for spinocerebellar ataxia and pain. Go ahead, I'll wait. One of the major symptoms is nerve destruction of the nerves regulating muscle control. This causes very PAINFUL muscle spasms. Among other devastating destructive symptoms.

I know all about these nervous system disorders because ten months ago I suddenly developed a headache that never went away. For TEN MONTHS. Not your garden variety, take a few aspirin and it'll be gone soon. Stabbing with an icepick in the back of your head, headache with a throbbing, pulsing chaser on top. To the point that they have looked for brain tumors among other things. Just because pain is considered neurological in some diseases does not mean that it is "phantom".

By the way, I HATE pain pills and normally would only take about 10 - 20 Aleves over the course of a year. I take gabapentin for nerve pain that began at the same time the headaches did. It works. I don't care why, I'm just so grateful that it does.

Three MRI's, 2 x-rays, a carotid artery scan, about twelve different blood tests, and we still have not found a diagnosis. Days when you can't stand and walk or even sit fully erect. But guess what? I still hold a full-time job.

So, fuck you very much.

Posted by: NoLongerintheBellyoftheBeast at April 13, 2017 04:47 PM (2cTzK)

768 New sheriff in town. His name is I. Will Blowuup.

Posted by: Queef uberdumb at April 13, 2017 05:34 PM (ZuGkg)

769 But a lot more energy has to be expended to get the rods into orbit in the first place. So it becomes a very expensive hammer

======
Except we now have an orbital space plane. Unmanned. Built to reload the spear chucker.

Posted by: Simplemind at April 13, 2017 06:03 PM (ZuGkg)

770 The one thing to remember about the GBU-43/B MOAB is that it is not in any way a hard-target penetrator like the the GBU-28 series. It's just a big thin-skinned can of explosives. Eleven tons TNT equivalent from what I can find. That'll rattle some hard-rock tunnels and a good hit would close the entrance, but these, just like the previous BLU-82, are aimed at heads, not materiel or facilities.

Posted by: Captain Ned at April 13, 2017 06:04 PM (WI6nT)

771 We bombed them BIGLY!!
Hopefully that was just a warm up.

Posted by: John Cocktoastin at April 13, 2017 06:30 PM (NmR1a)

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