Gaslight

Holy crap, a Republican (Ron Estes) beat a Democrat (James Thompson) in a special election in Kansas' 4th congressional district, so you might think this would be a Republican victory, right?

Simpleton. You're wrong! It's actually a *loss* for the GOP. Who are you going to believe, the lying election results, or the New York Times? Ace reporter Nate Cohn explains it all for us:

On Tuesday, Republicans won an unexpectedly close race in Kansas’ Fourth Congressional District. The Republican Ron Estes won by seven points over James Thompson, even though President Trump won the district by 27 points in November. No Democrat holds a House seat as Republican as this one, so it’s startling that the seat was even competitive.

See, the GOP win is actually a loss because the results were 'unexpectedly close'.

The title of Cohn's piece is 'A Republican Wins in Kansas. It’s Still a Loss for the G.O.P.' It's a dog's breakfast of wishful thinking, hand-waving, and speculative "woulda coulda shoulda" tea-leaf reading that is really quite indicative of the quality journalism we've come to expect from the NY Times since Trump has been elected.

( *waves hand* )

Your eyes are getting sleeeeeepy...
You can't hold them open any longer...
Pay no attention to the reality you thought you knew...
Listen only to the sound of my voice...

Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 11:35 AM

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1 um, ok. 20 point swing is notable.

Posted by: kata at April 13, 2017 11:36 AM (qbOdg)

2 And yet, 50.1% still wins.

Heck, even 49.5% can win. Just ask the electoral college, Hillary.

Posted by: fluffy at April 13, 2017 11:36 AM (jw2Xw)

3 Funny, just the other day some dimocrap on NextDoor was taking about gas lighting....coincidence?

Posted by: lindarose at April 13, 2017 11:37 AM (JNDQi)

4 He won. Let 'em bitch about it. Shows 'em for who they are

Posted by: JM&J at April 13, 2017 11:37 AM (iQNhz)

5 There's a fellow at a pub I drink at who is constantly reading the NYT and takes it as gospel truth. It takes all the strength of will I have not to laugh in his face.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 13, 2017 11:38 AM (X6fMO)

6 Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.

GAH! NIGHTMARE!

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 11:38 AM (RD7QR)

7 The AP told me this morning that Tom Price's seat may go Dem.

Wish casting.

Meanwhile, I wish Dr. Dao's attorney would STFD and STHU.

Attention whore much?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:38 AM (PY9jH)

8 ( *waves hand* )

Your eyes are getting sleeeeeepy...
You can't hold them open any longer...
Pay no attention to the reality you thought you knew...
Listen only to the sound of my voice...

Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.

OM, that is ctuel. What did we ever do to you?!

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 11:38 AM (Z7b/F)

9 This lawyer is playing it for all it's worth. LOL

They gonna need a cop to pull him off the stage

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 11:38 AM (KlI/a)

10 Damn! Off, boy-lover sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 11:39 AM (X6fMO)

11
The democrat upward trend line has a certain decidedly downward trend to it.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 11:39 AM (HTdUD)

12 Some dems are starting to realize that their party may cease to exist on the national stage. They're desperate.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 13, 2017 11:39 AM (97XyN)

13 If there was a big poll swing, how do you suss out the cause?

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 11:39 AM (RD7QR)

14 And the Patriots didn't cover the spread in the SB, so what?

Posted by: Some old Russian comic at April 13, 2017 11:39 AM (suO/a)

15 Ron Estes: Cadillac El Dorado
James Thompson: Set of steak knives

Always be closing.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 11:39 AM (Bdeb0)

16 Attorney just told everyone to "leave Dr. Dao alone!!!" After yammering for what, half an hour?

Someone needs to get a hook.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:40 AM (PY9jH)

17 Trump and Pruitt were going to delete all that climate data, and sure enough...

https://goo.gl/KMfuOp

Decades of ice cores covering 80000 years have melted.

In Canada.

Because someone screwed up their new freezer.

Posted by: JEM at April 13, 2017 11:40 AM (TppKb)

18 Meh. Had this been during a regular election cycle Estes would have won by more. It's wishcasting by dems. Nothing more.

Posted by: irright at April 13, 2017 11:40 AM (pMGkg)

19 If 500,000 jobs were added next month, Nate Cohn would say that it's a harbinger of inflation. And that Trump should be impeached.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at April 13, 2017 11:40 AM (PlS5K)

20 No she ain't
No she ain't
No she ain't

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at April 13, 2017 11:40 AM (nQHw/)

21 The lawyer whines like a girl also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 11:40 AM (KlI/a)

22 If i tried to fix every typo I make, I'd be on the Wall of Shame every week.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (Z7b/F)

23 Attorney just told everyone to "leave Dr. Dao alone!!!" After yammering for what, half an hour?

Someone needs to get a hook.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:40 AM (PY9jH)

Any bets on his business number being 1-800-SHYSTER?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (X6fMO)

24 We probably need Federal Blog Comment Regulations. You know, to prevent scummy people from posting "First!".

And for the children.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (5FLKM)

25 Trump: Pence, tell me a joke.
Pence: Obama was president.
Trump: That was a good one.

Posted by: harleycowboy at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (+9AX9)

26 The US expectantly defeated Japan, using the nucular option.

Posted by: NY Times' Nate Cohn at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (XoldI)

27
If I had a dollar for every time I was violently ejected from an airplane, I could buy lunch today.

Posted by: John McCain at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (HTdUD)

28

( *waves hand* )

Your eyes are getting sleeeeeepy...

You can't hold them open any longer...

Pay no attention to the reality you thought you knew...

Listen only to the sound of my voice...

Hillary Clinton is president.

Hillary Clinton is president.

Hillary Clinton is president.

=====================

Dammit. First, I see the Face From Hell in J. J.'s thread, now this. Oregon Muse, what have we ever done to you?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (PY9jH)

29 This shit is stupid. If there's nothing down ballot in a local vote here in Philly, why bother?

Same in a (R)+24 or whatever it is.

The Resistance is all lathered up right now, but turnout overall in that race wasn't great. I definitely wouldn't read anything into it.

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 13, 2017 11:42 AM (9/YlV)

30 >>>>um, ok. 20 point swing is notable.
.
.
.Yes it is notable. However we all need to remember that the democrats put everything they had into this race and two more coming up next week. Even with all of the outside money and community organizers pouring in, the democrat still lost.

Notable.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 13, 2017 11:42 AM (le7jz)

31 Hirohito actually won, because we only dropped two atomic bombs on him.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 11:42 AM (Bdeb0)

32 If I had a dollar for every time I was violently ejected from an airplane, I could buy lunch today.

He didn't wait for a higher offer, though.

Posted by: JEM at April 13, 2017 11:42 AM (TppKb)

33 Barack Obama is *still* a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: Allen Goodner(Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (h9QN9)

34 ok. 20 point swing is notable.
Posted by: kata at April 13, 2017 11:36 AM (qbOdg)

Not necessarily, special elections have wierd voting blocks. Also Brownback isn't hugely popular so this may be a some blowback there that doesn't translate more broadly

Posted by: Tsrblke at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (dzmBR)

35 Gaslighting is actually a form of manipulative abuse.

Not surprising Democrats and the media are using it.

/how long before an article appears and claims that Hillary! and Obama actually have MORE power than Trump?

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (FkAXz)

36 "What the matter with the New York Times?"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (xJa6I)

37 Hey, Oregon Muse. Look at Mrs. Greenspan's face and imagine she's looking up at ol' Alan. And guess what she's getting ready to do?

You're welcome.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (PY9jH)

38 On the other hand we have a Republican Oklahoma Congress creature telling his constituents that they don't pay for him to represent them.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (fqERy)

39 Obviously the MSM is going to spin everything as impending doom for the GOP, but at the same time that doesn't mean we put our heads in the sand.

I do think it's troubling that a comfortable 30 point district for Republicans in one of the reddest states ended up being a 5 point game.

I will say though for whatever reason, Republicans always do piss poor in special elections. I'm guessing it's mainly because the unions are always able to mobilize, but still, this was too close for comfort in Kansas.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (zcIrz)

40 The last election in this district re-elected a popular Republican incumbent. The candidate in this special election was closely tied to Sam Brownback, who is not particularly popular in Kansas right now. So the result is not hard to explain. If someone were to look up all the races where an incumbent was replaced by a new face and calculate the average drop in support, I am sure this result would be within one standard deviation of that mean.

Posted by: HTL at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (JsSFV)

41 The AP told me this morning that Tom Price's seat may go Dem.

===

Anecdotally, the people I have talked to in this district are laughing at Ossoff.

It's like their tired of unqualified little snot-nosed socialist college idealists running their government or something.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (5FLKM)

42 Ned Beatty actually won the woodland lovemaking scene by one toothless redneck.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (Bdeb0)

43 >>See, the GOP win is actually a loss because the results were 'unexpectedly close'.

Aaaaand this is how they will report every good number of Trump's, such as job gains, etc., when they're not outright lying: Sorry, didn't meet expectations, so it's not a "win"for Trump.

They did that all through Bush's presidency. Never told us whose expectations, nor if these same folks are the ones who repeatedly call things like Obama's job losses and soaring Obamacare rates "unexpected." Nope, just telling you what nebulous experts declare you to think.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (NOIQH)

44 Hillary really is the president, you know!

Posted by: Tom Perez at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (IqV8l)

45 Last time I checked, 7 points was a significant margin. As high as 27? Obviously not. But significant.

Posted by: Allen Goodner(Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (h9QN9)

46 28
Dammit. First, I see the Face From Hell in J. J.'s thread, now this. Oregon Muse, what have we ever done to you?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:41 AM (PY9jH)

Somebody not have their bowl of Kaboom this morning?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (jxbfJ)

47 Kansas is funny.

Those of you who don't know, it's filled with cliches. The typical farm folk, who likes them some "traditional" Christian values, and at the same time, loves them some socialist farm subsidies.

So the hicks there tend to elect people who cow tow to their notion of having federal dollars thrown at their farms, as long as the pols also talk about Jesus not wanting no Darwinism talked about in their schools.

Yeah, it's an oversimplification. Yeah, I'm not fond of Kansas.

I'm also not exactly wrong. I have no idea who either of these candidates are, but if the Democrat came close to winning, I'm going to bet my firstborn child that the Dem talked up farm dollars.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (TOk1P)

48 Hitler actually won, because we didn't shoot him, he shot himself.

Posted by: NY Times' Nate Cohn at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (XoldI)

49 It's like their tired of unqualified little snot-nosed socialist college idealists running their government or something.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (5FLKM)

Jimmuh's grandson weeps.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (PY9jH)

50 "Meanwhile, I wish Dr. Dao's attorney would STFD and STHU.

Attention whore much?

Posted by: Jane D'oh"

Seriously. Who does he think he is?

Posted by: Gloria Allred at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (OD2ni)

51 The Empire only lost two Death Stars, so they won.

Seeing how they're still around in TFA, maybe that is the case?

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 11:45 AM (7HtZB)

52 Yes it is notable. However we all need to remember that the democrats put everything they had into this race and two more coming up next week. Even with all of the outside money and community organizers pouring in, the democrat still lost.

Notable.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 13, 2017 11:42 AM (le7jz)

And off cycle elections are notoriously unreliable indicators

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 13, 2017 11:45 AM (KlI/a)

53 It's fun to point and laugh, but without the Tea Party, this national irrelevance would have been the GOP's fate.

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 13, 2017 11:45 AM (9/YlV)

54 On the one hand, don't get cocky, there is some truth in what he says. On the other, congressional districts aren't large. A hundred twenty thousand votes according to the decision desk hq. I'd like to know how much money the Democrats poured into the district per person.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 13, 2017 11:46 AM (2lndx)

55 Last time I checked, 7 points was a significant margin. As high as 27? Obviously not. But significant.

Posted by: Allen Goodner(Dedicated Tenther)

Remember Bob Dole versus Bill Clinton? Seven points.

Go back and look at how the press described that.

Posted by: John McCain at April 13, 2017 11:46 AM (HTdUD)

56 It's actually a loss for the GOP.
Yet who's butt is in DC?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 13, 2017 11:46 AM (h1Sto)

57 Hey, Oregon Muse. Look at Mrs. Greenspan's face and imagine she's looking up at ol' Alan. And guess what she's getting ready to do?

I've been using that one as a bulimia enhancement for six or seven years around here.

Posted by: JEM at April 13, 2017 11:46 AM (TppKb)

58 >>48
Hitler actually won, because we didn't shoot him, he shot himself. Posted by: NY Times' Nate Cohn at April 13, 2017 11:44 AM (XoldI)

I was trying to work the proof for that one. Yours...is...superior.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 11:46 AM (Bdeb0)

59 their they're there

grammar grammer grammir

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 11:47 AM (5FLKM)

60 What was the turnout for a special election?

Posted by: Kraig the Climber at April 13, 2017 11:47 AM (4jm34)

61 *On the other hand we have a Republican Oklahoma Congress creature telling his constituents that they don't pay for him to represent them.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (fqERy)*

Which one? I missed that.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 11:47 AM (Z7b/F)

62
The Gods hate Kansas

http://tinyurl.com/n52pnkd

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 13, 2017 11:47 AM (IqV8l)

63 "The AP told me this morning that Tom Price's seat may go Dem.

Wish casting."

Has Bill Wynn shown up here to tell us that the Dem would win the Georgia seat?

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 11:48 AM (OD2ni)

64 Last time I checked, 7 points was a significant margin. As high as 27? Obviously not. But significant.

AllenG, welcome back!
Yeah, 7 is significant.
27 is a blow out, but 7 is still significant.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 11:48 AM (uh5kC)

65 No form of soothing is more effective than self soothing.

But, this sort of article does mark a bit of a turning point. People are now starting to progress through to the next stage of the grieving process.

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining.

This is clearly a form of bargaining.

Posted by: ThomasD at April 13, 2017 11:48 AM (liRzV)

66 51 The Empire only lost two Death Stars, so they won.

Seeing how they're still around in TFA, maybe that is the case?
Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 11:45 AM (7HtZB)
===

And they seem to have been able to acquire a planet sized death star and bigger star destroyers somehow too.

Posted by: Independent George at April 13, 2017 11:48 AM (BDZWU)

67 And 8% is really, really close too.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2017 11:48 AM (nlbfN)

68 I've been using that one as a bulimia enhancement for six or seven years around here.

Her lips in that particular configuration look like Richard Dreyfus scraped them out of clay with a fork.

Posted by: JEM at April 13, 2017 11:48 AM (TppKb)

69 And off cycle elections are notoriously unreliable indicators

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Turnout is usually way lower in non-Presidential election years. So if the democrats threw everything they have at getting their voters to the polls for this election and *still* came up seven points shy -- well the midterms are looking brighter.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 11:48 AM (HTdUD)

70 Il Duche actually won because he was hung from his feet not his neck.

Posted by: NYT at April 13, 2017 11:49 AM (fqERy)

71 >>>>
Gaslighting is actually a form of manipulative abuse.

Not surprising Democrats and the media are using it.

/how long before an article appears and claims that Hillary! and Obama actually have MORE power than Trump?
.
.
.This is different than gaslighting I think. Remember how the democrats convinced themselves that Trump would pull every single Republican who was on the ballot in November down with him?

Many pollsters and pundist went as far as predicting that the Senate would flip back to the democrats and they even had a slim chance to retake the House all because Trump would drag everyone down.

They are doing the exact same thing again. This is more like wish casting I think.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 13, 2017 11:49 AM (le7jz)

72 Oh, yeah? Well, let's see the voter map so we can prove he won because of all dem' rassiss~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 11:49 AM (GgzGa)

73 given the amount of money the dumocrats put into this race that they wanted to tout as the beginning of the end of TRUMP. THEY LOST AGAIN. keep throwing your money away asshats.
we need to start hammering the media with "YOU LOST" and "read the Constitution, you know, the document that has words that we run our politics in accordance with."

Posted by: arbitrary turn back at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (8RQER)

74 Meh.

Estes opponent ran as a Blue Dogish Conservative.

That actually says more about the future of the progressive Democrat Party than anything else.

All that a 7 point win proves is that there are still stupid people out there who believe that a Democrat isn't actually going to go full commie once elected.

But, baby steps, people. Baby steps.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (9q7Dl)

75 Nate Cohn used a graph in the article, duh! That adds credibility.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (wPiJc)

76 Our top story tonight. Democrats closely almost just nearly win.
Film at eleven...

Posted by: tu3031 at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (qJhUV)

77 Hey, Oregon Muse. Look at Mrs. Greenspan's face and imagine she's
looking up at ol' Alan. And guess what she's getting ready to do?
You're welcome.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:43 AM (PY9jH)

Yeah, but the Russian foreign minister pretty much told her to sit down and STFU yesterday, so that makes me happy.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (V4ryl)

78 And 8% is really, really close too.

Posted by: andycanuck

Yesterday I read it was 8%.
Maybe tomorrow it will be 6% in the MSM.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (HTdUD)

79 Yesterday the NYT even bashed the Easter Egg Roll at the WH...They said the WH was in disarray, because of personal shortages, and the First Lady wouldn't be there. Hillary would have run a wonderful event, if only....

Posted by: Colin at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (RS7vk)

80 I'm also not exactly wrong. I have no idea who either of these candidates are, but if the Democrat came close to winning, I'm going to bet my firstborn child that the Dem talked up farm dollars.

Posted by: BurtTC

I've cautioned this before. The Trump coalition wasn't strictly about reducing government, just redirecting it. Small government conservatism always starts at a disadvantage selling itself. Don't fool yourself into thinking anything's changed in that regard.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 13, 2017 11:51 AM (9krrF)

81 61
Markwayne(the fuq) Mullin.

Posted by: NYT at April 13, 2017 11:51 AM (fqERy)

82 I really wish the Right would quit responding to this shit. And yes, they do respond to this gaslighting garbage waaaay too often. Just look at the sturm und drang regarding this story (Weird ass low turnout special elections give weird ass results) and the "palace intrigue" regarding Bannon et. al. Quit letting them yank your chains with "multiple sources" garbage!

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 11:51 AM (fdyVM)

83 "Gaslighting is actually a form of manipulative abuse.

Not surprising Democrats and the media are using it."

Ben Rhodes bragged about doing it. Scumbag.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 11:51 AM (OD2ni)

84 Ya, I see it. The Trump surrogate lost the special election even though he got more votes.

Hillary, with her gift of persistence, actually won the presidential election because she got more votes.

This is that river in Egypt where Cleopatra used to water ski behind the barge; her rowers were that fast.

Posted by: Kraig the Climber at April 13, 2017 11:51 AM (4jm34)

85 And off cycle elections are notoriously unreliable indicators
Posted by: Nevergiveup
_____

Yes and no.

Scott Brown winning reliably blue Massachusetts was a pretty big bellwether of what 2010 was going to look like.

I am "noting" my concern that a district Trump won by nearly 27 points and the previous Congressman also winning by that margin dropping 20 points.

It doesn't mean the sky is falling, but the Republican candidate wasn't some rookie or had a history of saying stupid things. He had been elected statewide before.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 11:52 AM (zcIrz)

86 Recall that Trump won "unexpectedly." Probably thanks to Podesta hiring a firm to identify how to misrepresent polling in Hillary's favor just enough to be credible (thanks, Wikileaks!) as well as news organizations tweaking their own polls.

Why should we care what reporters and tv talking heads tell us is expected anymore?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 13, 2017 11:52 AM (NOIQH)

87 This will all be forgotten in a week.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 11:52 AM (jl269)

88 If the NYT thinks this special election was unexpectedly close, they're going to be thrilled when they find out about another unexpectedly close election that happened last november.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 13, 2017 11:52 AM (KUaJL)

89 Da.

Posted by: Centaur Putin at April 13, 2017 11:53 AM (eZ0Cd)

90 And 8% is really, really close too.

Posted by: andycanuck

******

Well, when you put it that way, 9% is also really close, a "could go either way" type of number.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 11:53 AM (wPiJc)

91 Tonight in sports, Cleveland Indians almost win World Series!

Posted by: tu3031 at April 13, 2017 11:53 AM (qJhUV)

92 Budd Dwyer won because he managed to escape prosecution.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 11:53 AM (Bdeb0)

93 Wow! They are taking solace from beating the spread. Sad!

Posted by: Thursby at April 13, 2017 11:54 AM (1wofY)

94 John Bobbitt actually won because Lorena only cut off his dick, and not his balls too.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 11:54 AM (X6fMO)

95 They are doing the exact same thing again. This is more like wish casting I think.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 13, 2017 11:49 AM (le7jz)

I think this story has elements of both gaslighting and wish casting.

But I chose 'gaslighting' because it sounds cooler.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 11:54 AM (V4ryl)

96 Obama won by 7% and 5% in 08 and 12.

They can think what they want. The last 8 years didn't feel like a win.

Posted by: Golfman at April 13, 2017 11:54 AM (yxVpR)

97 If I had a dollar for every time I was violently ejected from an airplane, I could buy lunch today.
Posted by: John McCain
-------------

THIS is why you read upthread, folks.

lmao

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (ZO497)

98 Your eyes are getting sleeeeeepy...
You can't hold them open any longer...
Pay no attention to the reality you thought you knew...
Listen only to the sound of my voice...

Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.
Hillary Clinton is president.

----

Chelsea Clinton is first child
Chelsea Clinton is first child
Chelsea Clinton is first child

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (PNcou)

99 Ratmussen has Trump at 48% approval rating.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (eZ0Cd)

100 They're just trying to use up some of the excess unexpectedly stock they have lying around from the last administration.

Posted by: MMW at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (kfV3n)

101 REMEMBER WHEN saddam hussein WON because that dude took a SELFIE with him on the GALLOws?

Posted by: Spurwing Cohnver at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (nFwvY)

102 94 John Bobbitt actually won because Lorena only cut off his dick, and not his balls too.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 11:54 AM (X6fMO)

You reminded me that Lorena did actually win and got off scot free.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (jl269)

103 Recall that Trump won "unexpectedly." Probably thanks to Podesta hiring a firm to identify how to misrepresent polling in Hillary's favor just enough to be credible (thanks, Wikileaks!) as well as news organizations tweaking their own polls.

Why should we care what reporters and tv talking heads tell us is expected anymore?
Posted by: Lizzy
__________

But this isn't polling, it's the actual election result.

But yes, the fact that Podesta was working the media polling was basically every conspiracy theory had been confirmed. It was to depress turnout and create the narrative the election had already been won by Hillary.

That's why I tend to think Trump will do way better in his reelection as not as many people will fall for it. I think a lot of Republicans had thrown in the towel way too early.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 11:56 AM (zcIrz)

104 82: YES!

The right needs to stop following the left's ridiculous attempts to gin up stories. Examples: Russia! Palace Intrigue! Arms Crossed! AntiSemitism!

Posted by: LASue at April 13, 2017 11:56 AM (CLKfs)

105 99 Ratmussen has Trump at 48% approval rating.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (eZ0Cd)

So what's the trend?

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 11:57 AM (RD7QR)

106 "Yes and no.

Scott Brown winning reliably blue Massachusetts was a pretty big bellwether of what 2010 was going to look like."

Fair point. But the media also crowed about Obama's popularity when the Dem won in the special election in NY-23 in 2009. Of course, that wall screwed up by that Dede Scuzzball or whatever her name was.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 11:57 AM (OD2ni)

107 Tower has cleared us for takeoff. What? How did that pesky Mongorian get on the prane? Security! Drag him off by his shoelaces.

Posted by: Wi Tu Low at April 13, 2017 11:57 AM (eZ0Cd)

108 It's going to be an unexpectedly early evening.

Posted by: Bill Gynn at April 13, 2017 11:57 AM (vtcmf)

109 Ratmussen has Trump at 48% approval rating.
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Lies, damned lies and Rasmussen.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 11:58 AM (5FLKM)

110 "Ratmussen has Trump at 48% approval rating."

So 41%.

Posted by: The MSM at April 13, 2017 11:58 AM (97XyN)

111 what? what?

Posted by: torabora at April 13, 2017 11:58 AM (0+2tr)

112 Dr. Dao narrowly missed being able to keep his seat. Surprisingly competitive. -/Nate Cohn

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 11:58 AM (wPiJc)

113 Ethel Rosenberg actually won because her head didn't burst into flames.

Posted by: NYT at April 13, 2017 11:58 AM (fqERy)

114 I'm still waiting for the constitutional crisis when Gorsuch delivers Trump his first "illegitimate" ruling. That's gonna happen WAY before the 2018 election cycle.

The crazy is going to go pro.

Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2017 11:58 AM (q177U)

115 They are doing the exact same thing again. This is more like wish casting I think.

I think it could be a little of both. If you convince your opponent that theirs is a lost cause, you depress them (and, in election, that equals depressed voter turnout). Simultaneously you energize your own team. - Gaslighting (sort of).

But, at the same time, if you buy into your own propaganda (and I think you're right that at least some of them - maybe most - do), then it's wish-casting.

It's possible that between the author and the editor, both are occurring.

Posted by: Allen Goodner(Dedicated Tenther) at April 13, 2017 11:59 AM (h9QN9)

116 This is different than gaslighting I think. Remember how the democrats convinced themselves that Trump would pull every single Republican who was on the ballot in November down with him?

Many pollsters and pundist went as far as predicting that the Senate would flip back to the democrats and they even had a slim chance to retake the House all because Trump would drag everyone down.

They are doing the exact same thing again. This is more like wish casting I think.
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IDK.

To me, delusion, wish casting and gaslighting are all kind of the same thing.

Basically: people define a reality: "The Republican win is really a GOP loss." That makes no sense. Just like "Islam is a religion of peace." Idiotic.

However, the people making those statements expect YOU to agree with their reality, even though it is impossible and illogical.

Case in point: "Michelle Obama is the most beautiful woman in the world."

Shaping YOUR reality. You MUST agree. There is no argument, not counterpoint.

Seems manipulative to me.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 11:59 AM (FkAXz)

117 85: Worth noting: Brown wasn't tied to an unpopular governor and had a mobilized national apparatus behind him form the start. Estes was and didn't (I think). Amongst the right, this race was under the radar until relatively recently. The left tried to catch the right napping and put a blue dog-ish candidate up against a republican tied to an unpopular governor.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 11:59 AM (fdyVM)

118 "Remember how the democrats convinced themselves that Trump would pull every single Republican who was on the ballot in November down with him?"

Trump did pull my arm off.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 13, 2017 12:00 PM (OD2ni)

119 Dylan Thomas broke the 17-whiskey record at NYC's White Horse Tavern. Win for him.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 12:00 PM (Bdeb0)

120 Ratmussen has Trump at 48% approval rating
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Reliable Source Gives Trump Failing Grade : 48/100

Posted by: CNN at April 13, 2017 12:00 PM (5FLKM)

121 It's ridiculous to make any grand conclusions from this election.

The environment will completely change by the midterms, hell people might not even remember this United story.

All politics is local --this was a saying by Speaker of the House Tip O'Neil.

Kansans might know something more than the guys at 538.

Sedgwick County has an Air Force base in the area and the Democrat use to be in the Army.

I can see that guy doing the full Jim Webb bullshit routine --running as a Conservative Dem Jacksonian Democrat--that cares about the debt!--and tricking people just like Webb faked and lied his ass off in Virginia.

Jim Webb-rarely stood up against Obama. Don't know of a single time.

But everyone just loves Jim Webb---because they never kept track of how he lied.

So--analysis that doesn't look at local factors, doesn't consider the individual candidates--is toilet paper.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 12:01 PM (fi5nC)

122 You reminded me that Lorena did actually win and got off scot free.

*****

Little known fact: Lorena Bobbitt's lawyers was named Guy Lackey-Johnson.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 12:01 PM (wPiJc)

123 @39. . . I do think it's troubling that a comfortable 30 point district for Republicans in one of the reddest states ended up being a 5 point game.
Posted by: Maritime
___________

My view is that Kansas is not a red state, it's a Republican state. Big difference. When party leaders refer to themselves as "Bob Dole conservatives", you know you're not in Oklahoma or Texas.

Brownback is a spectacularly unpopular governor, and when people get a chance to vote against Brownback by proxy, they do it.

Thompson is a leftwing goofball, who would have been thrown out on his ear in 2018. Take Brownback out of the equation, and that election would have fallen in the normal margin of victory.

Posted by: Furious George at April 13, 2017 12:01 PM (j+dfT)

124 Paul Ryan phoned in his Estes support from Disneyworld.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:01 PM (fqERy)

125 Shaping YOUR reality. You MUST agree. There is no argument, not counterpoint.

Seems manipulative to me.

Posted by: shibumi
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Exactly.

Posted by: CNN at April 13, 2017 12:02 PM (5FLKM)

126 So if Trump was supposed to lose by 50, but only lost by three, then that also makes him a winner?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 12:02 PM (PNcou)

127 So if Trump was supposed to lose by 50, but only lost by three, then that also makes him a winner?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 12:02 PM (PNcou)

128 OT from Sweden:

Two asylum seekers who are on trial for raping a Swedish girl and
streaming the ordeal live on Facebook will not face deportation back to
their home countries.

The asylum seekers directly involved in the rape, aged 18 and 21,
will not face deportation after the prosecution withdrew their previous
claim.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 12:02 PM (FkAXz)

129 72 Oh, yeah? Well, let's see the voter map so we can prove he won because of all dem' rassiss~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 11:49 AM (GgzGa)

That will be the next step. After the Great Political Enema of 1994, when so many Commiecrat turds were flushed out of the Body politic, the press buzzwords were "Angry White Males."

Because the landslide didn't count anymore because of Those People, you see.

See also terms like "uneducated rubes", "hayseeds" or "hicks" get thrown about.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 13, 2017 12:02 PM (ujg0T)

130 Who made Nate Cohn the Pope of Elections?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (5VlCp)

131 The Democrat de-ligitimization of the Federal government is actually a HUGE win for red states for when a Democrat is next elected president.

Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (q177U)

132 "Gaslighting is actually a form of manipulative abuse.

---

and think how it's changing the (politcal) climate!

Posted by: Michael Mannsplains at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (PNcou)

133 "The left tried to catch the right napping and put a blue dog-ish candidate up against a republican tied to an unpopular governor."

This is why I think the Georgia race will not be that close. Oh, the Dem Osoff may finish in first next week since so many R's are running but will get crushed in the runoff. The Hollywood idiots are making too big of a deal of their outside support.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (OD2ni)

134 121: Bingo. Comparing this to the Brown election misses whe whole picture. Brown in 2010 was nationalized. This one wasn't, really, at least on the Republican side.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (fdyVM)

135 Trump can't possibly win.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (eZ0Cd)

136 >>Jim Webb-rarely stood up against Obama. Don't know of a single time.

But everyone just loves Jim Webb---because they never kept track of how he lied. Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 12:01 PM (fi5nC)

And he was a petulant, rude shitheel when GWB asked him about how his son was doing in the service. Born Sucking, Jim.

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (Bdeb0)

137 John Kennedy Jr. narrowly missed hitting the runway.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (wPiJc)

138 Repeating my observation from earlier, the Democrats went out of their way to depict attorney Thompson as a "Joe Sixpack" type. Campaign photos showed him in a worn baseball cap, t-shirt, and two day beard so he looked like a farmer or a laborer. But with rimless eyeglasses to let Democrats know he was "smart."

Posted by: V the K at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (CSgup)

139 THIS is why you read upthread, folks.

lmao

Posted by: amy schumer at April 13, 2017 12:04 PM (nlbfN)

140 126 So if Trump was supposed to lose by 50, but only lost by three, then that also makes him a winner?
Posted by: buzzsaw90

127 So if Trump was supposed to lose by 50, but only lost by three, then that also makes him a winner?
Posted by: buzzsaw90

Oooooooh. Rare & elusive double post. Haven't seen one of those in awhile.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:04 PM (uh5kC)

141 Missed it by that/much!

Coulda been a contendah.

We've got them right where we want them. They have us surrounded. (WWII reference).

This is just the beginning!

Time for another March! That'll show 'em!

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:04 PM (3myMJ)

142 MSM can still shape the debate, especially by what it chooses not to cover. e.g., I haven't seen much on Schmuck Schumer's futile foolishness in opposing Gorsuch. But this only goes so far.

Governing well is the best revenge. If Trump does well in his first two years, the Ds will get killed in 2018

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 12:04 PM (SIY7D)

143 "Gaslighting is actually a form of manipulative abuse.

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and think how it's changing the (politcal) climate!
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The next step?

Hate Speech Laws.

There is no opinion other than the Correct Opinion. If you voice a different opinion, you will go to jail.

Examples? Western Europe.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 12:04 PM (FkAXz)

144 Estes was a huge fat bald guy--the Dem was ex-military running in a district with a military base. Who was younger and had all his hair. (See Kennedy--the stupid hair thing matters)

Yes--looks matter---life is that petty.

The Republicans drug him across the finish line.

Good damn job.

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 12:04 PM (fi5nC)

145 74 Meh.

Estes opponent ran as a Blue Dogish Conservative.

That actually says more about the future of the progressive Democrat Party than anything else.

All that a 7 point win proves is that there are still stupid people out there who believe that a Democrat isn't actually going to go full commie once elected.

But, baby steps, people. Baby steps.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 13, 2017 11:50 AM (9q7Dl)

If the Demunists are smart, they will get Commiecrats in Dixiecrat clothing to run for them in 2018. But their base is so rabid such plants may not make the primaries anyway.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 13, 2017 12:05 PM (ujg0T)

146 I saw that article too and thought the same thing. Winning by only 8% is a loss?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 13, 2017 12:05 PM (0x/TW)

147 Really, It Was Like The Democrat was doing Trump voter cosplay

Posted by: V the K at April 13, 2017 12:05 PM (CSgup)

148 It can be considered a small triumph for the airship industry that the Hindenburg exploded at the end of its flight rather than somewhere in the middle."

Posted by: The New York Times at April 13, 2017 12:05 PM (JZdsf)

149 In a special election, do they ship in the zombie voters on the short bus?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:05 PM (eZ0Cd)

150 I enjoy John Ossoff's campaign ads. Especially the newer one where he finally admits that he's a Democrat and proud of it!

I don't know why it took him so long to identify his party if he's so proud of it but whatevs.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 12:06 PM (FqgrG)

151 And he was a petulant, rude shitheel when GWB asked him about how his son was doing in the service. Born Sucking, Jim.
Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (Bdeb0)

************

Thank gawd someone remembers what a douche this guy is.

Macaca!!!

Posted by: Holmes at April 13, 2017 12:06 PM (fi5nC)

152 *81 61
Markwayne(the fuq) Mullin.
Posted by: NYT at April 13, 2017 11:51 AM (fqERy)*

Thanks. Looked it up on the KFOR website. He spoke vaguely & stupidly. Claims he was trying to say that his Congressional salary is less than what he pays in taxes on his business earnings.

He can make it up to me by voting to shrink the government & reduce my taxes.

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:06 PM (Z7b/F)

153 Two asylum seekers who are on trial for raping a Swedish girl and

streaming the ordeal live on Facebook will not face deportation back to

their home countries.

The Swedish self-hatred fu is beaucoup strong.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (vtcmf)

154 Gaslighting is actually a form of manipulative abuse.
===

Litigating reality.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (5FLKM)

155 Yo, I won by going the distance!

Posted by: Rocky at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (PNcou)

156 Not that the Republican is a prize . DIABLO chamber of Commerce monkey, so I am told.

Posted by: V the K at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (CSgup)

157 The Lion of Chappaquiddick nearly saved that girl.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (eZ0Cd)

158 That will be the next step. After the Great Political Enema of 1994, when so many Commiecrat turds were flushed out of the Body politic, the press buzzwords were "Angry White Males."

Posted by: Curmudgeon

Actual Huffington Post Headline today:

Could it be time to deny white men the franchise?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (GgzGa)

159 The crazy is going to go pro.

Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2017 11:58 AM (q177U)

You mean it's not already?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (V4ryl)

160 In a special election, do they ship in the zombie voters on the short bus?
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Nah. They just alter the ballot boxes to favor Democrats. It's what they did in Detroit.

20 ballots in box.

Box marked:

200 votes Hillary
0 votes Trump

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 12:08 PM (FkAXz)

161 Who made Nate Cohn the Pope of Elections?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (5VlCp)

The New York Times.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:08 PM (V4ryl)

162 >>153
Two asylum seekers who are on trial for raping a Swedish girl and
streaming the ordeal live on Facebook will not face deportation back to
their home countries.

Winning, insh'allah!

Posted by: General Zod at April 13, 2017 12:08 PM (Bdeb0)

163 Curmudgeon 1994 was the first measure of Hillary's incredible unlikability. The dems lost their mortal lock on the House they had held since fdr. If they had any sense they would have shitcanned the clintons right then. Instead they made the GOP viable for a generation. And it's how they got trump.

Posted by: Spurwing Cohnver at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (nFwvY)

164 I enjoy John Ossoff's campaign ads. Especially the newer one where he finally admits that he's a Democrat and proud of it!
==

I'm not sure that he is old enough to stay up and watch the election returns.

He looks about 11.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (5FLKM)

165 Exactly correct, Oregon.

As I said in an earlier thread, the DEMs lost KS-4 last Tues. they will lose specials in MT-at large & in SC also.

A new poll today over at Red Racing Horses (RRH--a respectable source) indicated they are likely to lose in GA-6, & that's the one where the DEMs have already committed $4 mill.

So in sum, by end of June, barring an upset in Tom Price's former GA district, the GOP will have won 4 specials in a row since Trump was sworn in.

Eventually, reality will steamroll gaslighting.

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (aVY3U)

166 Litigating reality.
--

If only.

Litigation involves debate.

There is no debate here.

Ask the college-age Millennials; their view is the ONLY view and anyone who disagrees is engaging in Hate Speech and should be Jailed.

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (FkAXz)

167 "158 That will be the next step. After the Great Political Enema of 1994, when so many Commiecrat turds were flushed out of the Body politic, the press buzzwords were "Angry White Males."

Didn't Time have that as a cover back then with a picture of Bill D-Fens from Falling Down?

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (OD2ni)

168 Made it by that much!

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (IqV8l)

169 Ted Kennedy actually won because he escaped from the water without a scratch.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (fqERy)

170 You know who else came close winning?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (Nwg0u)

171 Can they get back to nixing Odingacare?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (eZ0Cd)

172 They were good boys.

Posted by: The Swedish Lemmings at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (vtcmf)

173
The ballot boxes were deflated!

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (3myMJ)

174 My view is that Kansas is not a red state, it's a Republican state. Big difference. When party leaders refer to themselves as "Bob Dole conservatives", you know you're not in Oklahoma or Texas.

Brownback is a spectacularly unpopular governor, and when people get a chance to vote against Brownback by proxy, they do it.

Thompson is a leftwing goofball, who would have been thrown out on his ear in 2018. Take Brownback out of the equation, and that election would have fallen in the normal margin of victory.
Posted by: Furious George
____________

I consider "red" to be shorthand for Republican, not necessarily conservative.

Even with the farm subsidy nonsense, I would still consider Kansas to be a really conservative state. Hillary only got 36% of the vote.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (zcIrz)

175 If the asylum seekers had done that in Texas they wouldn't be facing deportation either.

Posted by: Spurwing Cohnver at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (nFwvY)

176 Two asylum seekers who are on trial for raping a Swedish girl and

streaming the ordeal live on Facebook will not face deportation back to

their home countries.

The Swedish self-hatred fu is beaucoup strong.

-----

Reminds me of a line from "Ran", Kyomi (the fool)- In a mad world, only the mad are sane!

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (suO/a)

177 John Kennedy Jr. narrowly missed hitting the runway.

Lt. John F. Kennedy now in command of TWO PT boats.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 13, 2017 12:10 PM (qJhUV)

178 When you kill Achillies, that's a W

Posted by: Trojans at April 13, 2017 12:11 PM (PNcou)

179 Our duty is not to give you the facts so you will have an informed opinion.

Our duty is to form your opinion for you.

Posted by: MiniTrue at April 13, 2017 12:11 PM (XoldI)

180 Pickett's charge was really a win for the Confederacy.

Posted by: The Richmond Tribune at April 13, 2017 12:11 PM (ZO497)

181 133 "The left tried to catch the right napping and put a blue dog-ish candidate up against a republican tied to an unpopular governor."

This is why I think the Georgia race will not be that close. Oh, the Dem Osoff may finish in first next week since so many R's are running but will get crushed in the runoff. The Hollywood idiots are making too big of a deal of their outside support.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (OD2ni)

The national media makes the same moronic mistakes in LA with every election for the same reason. The electoral reality in modern LA Politics is this: statewide any dem will get clobbered about 60 to 40 or worse provided there's no bad blood between the various republican candidates and the Republican hasn't been severely bloodied in the primary. I'm betting it's the same in GA. So as long as both R's in GA have been focusing their fire on the dems and there's no bad blood, the dem should get smashed in the runoff.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 12:11 PM (fdyVM)

182 I think this story has elements of both gaslighting and wish casting.

*hic*

Let me show you some "gas casting," you rube!

*shart*

DAMMIT!

HUMA! MOMMY NEEDS A CLEANUP!

AND ANOTHER SCOTCH!

MOVE IT OR I'LL KICK YOUR HOURI ASS LIKE YOU WERE BERNIE!!

*vomit*

*faceplant*

Posted by: Hillary at April 13, 2017 12:11 PM (X6fMO)

183 Remember Scankles was going to win GA by 5 points. Instead she lost by over 30.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 13, 2017 12:12 PM (mpXpK)

184 A new poll today over at Red Racing Horses (RRH--a respectable source) indicated they are likely to lose in GA-6, & that's the one where the DEMs have already committed $4 mill.

So in sum, by end of June, barring an upset in Tom Price's former GA district, the GOP will have won 4 specials in a row since Trump was sworn in.

Eventually, reality will steamroll gaslighting.
Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (aVY3U)

=======

He was actually financed to the tune of 8.4 million, and has already spent 6 million, with a likely runoff coming up.

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at April 13, 2017 12:12 PM (NG1QT)

185 1876 NYT Headline: (dateline- Montana Territory) General George Armstrong Custer Loses Only 213 Men in Epic Near Victory Over Sioux

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 12:12 PM (wPiJc)

186 I found a Baldacci hardcover for a Dollar.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (eZ0Cd)

187 Gaslighting? Is that like fire water? Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (OD2ni)

188 My understanding is the dems poured a Metric Fuckton of outside money into this race...

and still lost...

Posted by: Don Q. at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (NgKpN)

189 158 That will be the next step. After the Great Political Enema of 1994, when so many Commiecrat turds were flushed out of the Body politic, the press buzzwords were "Angry White Males."

Posted by: Curmudgeon

Actual Huffington Post Headline today:

Could it be time to deny white men the franchise?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 12:07 PM (GgzGa)

Well, they can try, of course.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (RD7QR)

190 I can see the golden spires of the Kremlin.

Posted by: The Wehrmacht at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (gbWkA)

191
Not tired of not winning by enough...

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (3myMJ)

192 So as long as both R's in GA

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I think there's at least 3.

Moody, Gray and Karen Handel.

Sheesh , that woman runs for everything. And loses.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (5FLKM)

193 They were good boys.
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And aspiring ABBA backup singers.

Posted by: Swedish News Service at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (nlbfN)

194 I saw coverage yesterday, where they were talking about the difference between the Trump win and the representative win, and how the swing was related to dissatisfaction with Trump already.

The Dems want to spin this like it's a fair comparison. Like a couple local guys running against each other where personalities become more important than strict party affiliation. And most importantly, like it has nothing to do with Hillary's viability outside the coasts.

Posted by: Advo at April 13, 2017 12:14 PM (Ms4Um)

195 97 If I had a dollar for every time I was violently ejected from an airplane, I could buy lunch today.
Posted by: John McCain
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THIS is why you read upthread, folks.

lmao
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 11:55 AM (ZO497)

Yeah, I FB'd that as my comment of the day. I'm still mopping coffee out of the keyboard. LOLOLOL!!!

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at April 13, 2017 12:14 PM (K9oqL)

196 A difference of 7 points is not a particularly close race BUT, to the extent that the difference was expected to be more, I would expect that conservatives not voting would have made the margins smaller.

Does anyone have a breakdown of the number of total votes compared with how many people voted in that district in the last non-presidential race year?

Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2017 12:14 PM (f5uaD)

197
And oh by the way, are you ready for this? In early returns...Hillary leading in Mississippi!

-Young Turds

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:15 PM (3myMJ)

198 Satan won when Jesus died....

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 13, 2017 12:15 PM (PNcou)

199 163 Curmudgeon 1994 was the first measure of Hillary's incredible unlikability. The dems lost their mortal lock on the House they had held since fdr. If they had any sense they would have shitcanned the clintons right then. Instead they made the GOP viable for a generation. And it's how they got trump.
Posted by: Spurwing Cohnver at April 13, 2017 12:09 PM (nFwvY)

True that.

What 1994 also reflected was how much the Democrat Party was taken over by its New Left Commiecrat element.

The Old(er) Left, New Dealists and Great Society believers, Blue Dogs, Boll Weevils and Cowboy Democrats, of the Midwest, South, and West, were wrong, but they still loved America.

What came out of academia, arts and entertainment, and the media in the Northeast and West Coast was, and is, The Commiecrat Party we now have.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 13, 2017 12:15 PM (ujg0T)

200 I found a Baldacci hardcover for a Dollar.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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Which one?

I happened on a boxful of hardbacks $2.40 apiece.

Posted by: Oliver Stone at April 13, 2017 12:15 PM (ZO497)

201 192 So as long as both R's in GA

===

I think there's at least 3.

Moody, Gray and Karen Handel.

Sheesh , that woman runs for everything. And loses.
Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:13 PM (5FLKM)

I'll laugh my ass off if 2 republicans wind up in the runoff. It could happen if one of the R's is a centrist type.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (fdyVM)

202 I won the popular vote!!!! I won,I won!!!

Posted by: Hillary! at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (O2RFr)

203 Now on to Waterloo for the win!

Posted by: N. Bonaparte at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (gbWkA)

204 200 The Sixth Man.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (eZ0Cd)

205 While the "losing is winning" meme is stupid, it is indeed true that this was closer than it should be.

There are clear signs that the Democrats are energized and organizing.

Dems laughed at the Tea Party and got their asses handed to them in 2010.

'Twould be an ounce of prevention to start dealing with this now and strategizing how to deal with it, than get our asses handed to us in 2018, a year where (outside the Senate) have far more seats to defend that could flip than the Dems.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (rUIbB)

206 I burned Moscow! I won!!!

Posted by: zombie napoleon at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (nlbfN)

207 These efforts to make chicken salad out of chicken scratch fall somewhere between comedic and pitiful. Besides this, the Gorsuch spinning this week was hilarious. The Oregon senator said he was "illegitimate."

Yeah, last I checked, his vote still counts. If he's one of 5 votes, his side wins.

In sports, when you see a team talking about how well they played except for a couple of breaks here and there, you know you're looking at a team that not only lost, but will continue to lose in the future. Man up, admit your faults, and address those faults. Otherwise, you didn't just lose; you're a loser.

Posted by: Ted K. at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (I6Vm1)

208 This gator almost won.

http://tinyurl.com/kckkhmx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (Nwg0u)

209 It can be considered a small triumph for the airship industry that the Hindenburg exploded at the end of its flight rather than somewhere in the middle."

****

Heh!

NYT Headline "Hindenburg Narrowly Avoids Crashing Into Atlantic Ocean, Alights in New Jersey"

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (wPiJc)

210 RE: Sweden, how long before the law is officially changed and "refugees" will no longer be subjected to rape laws?

Seems like it's already happening informally in many parts of Europe.

Laws for taxpayers
No laws for Muslims

Posted by: shibumi at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (FkAXz)

211 I'll laugh my ass off if 2 republicans wind up in the runoff. It could happen if one of the R's is a centrist type.

Hey psst, over here...

Posted by: California! at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (O2RFr)

212
Mary Jo Kopechne won because she lasted under water longer than expected

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (lKyWE)

213 "And oh by the way, are you ready for this? In early returns...Hillary leading in Mississippi!

-Young Turds"

Comedy gold that I can watch over and over. The best was Anna Kasparian's hysterical rant when it became obvious Hillary had lost.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (OD2ni)

214 The flag on Mars is actually a win because Space-X.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (fqERy)

215 The used the nookeler option and as far as I can tell, no one gives a crap.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (eZ0Cd)

216 "Are they throwing a party for me out there?"

Posted by: Theodore "Ted" Bundy at April 13, 2017 12:18 PM (Bdeb0)

217 It'll never work. You cannot convince people that a defeat was a victory.

Posted by: Zombie W Cronkite at April 13, 2017 12:18 PM (PNcou)

218 My understanding is the dems poured a Metric Fuckton of outside money into this race...

and still lost...
Posted by: Don Q.

______

Does anybody have a comparison of what the 2 sides spent?

That would really be illuminating.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:18 PM (zcIrz)

219 I'd like to see United make "Dr" Dao go to court. I know its unlikely, corporations are not gamblers and there is the always a real chance that a jury will stick it to the evil rich corporation. But I think a whole lot of people anymore have had the fun of having some pompous twat who thinks they are entitled to special treatment stealing time out of everyone else's day while they try to browbeat or con someone in service staff to give them special treatment.

Given that Dao was taped talking on his cell phone telling someone to get a lawsuit ready (because he was going to resist and cause force to be used against him) -Rush had this yesterday United has a good chance of winning IMO. Of course if the lawyer gets that squelched then it gets risky for United and corporate probably wants to offer 100K vs risk 5 million so they will only go to court if Dao and lawyer are overly greedy if offered a medium size settlement.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 13, 2017 12:18 PM (8qFZP)

220 The used the nookeler option and as far as I can tell, no one gives a crap.

That's the Reid option if you don't mind...

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 13, 2017 12:18 PM (O2RFr)

221 Didn't the Buffalo Bills almost win 4 Super Bowls in a row?! No other team has done that!

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:19 PM (3myMJ)

222 Trump can't possibly win.
Posted by: Boss Moss

The Falcons led the New England Patriots 28-3 with less than three minutes remaining in the third quarter.

Posted by: Tom Brady at April 13, 2017 12:19 PM (iLoHX)

223 This guy the male version of Gloria Allred?

Posted by: Strobe at April 13, 2017 12:19 PM (gbWkA)

224 Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:17 PM (OD2ni)

Agree. Anna's rant was the cherry on top.

"You're fucking stupid, OK?!!!"

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:20 PM (3myMJ)

225 I won!

Millions

Posted by: Dr. Dao at April 13, 2017 12:20 PM (O2RFr)

226 We got as many runs as those stupid Cubs!

Posted by: Cleveland Indians at April 13, 2017 12:20 PM (IqV8l)

227 We are retiring in the direction of the enemy after salvaging all of the Third Fleet ships sunk by Radio Tokyo.

The only persons who are being hurt by denying reality are the Democrats, so they can spin that "The victory of my enemy is my victory" stuff as long as they care too.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 12:21 PM (hLRSq)

228 It's just a Tesla Scheme.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:21 PM (eZ0Cd)

229 "223 This guy the male version of Gloria Allred?"

Yeah, he's worse than William Ginsberg (RIP).

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:21 PM (OD2ni)

230 Just saw on CNN we may have dropped a MOAB in the Stan.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 13, 2017 12:21 PM (m3iiU)

231 Moody calls Gray a fake Trump supporter and scoops up elephant poop in his commercial.

Gray calls Moody a Nevertrumper and has a gas powered pump draining a swamp through a firehose in his commercial.

Karen Handel calls them both Establishment and is convinced that this time she will winz for realz.

All seem to agree that Ossoff is a little Nancy Pelosi-funded dick.

Glad this is over on Tuesday.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (5FLKM)

232 The Bills almost won 2 Super Bowls. They had no chance in the other two.

Posted by: Troy, Emmitt, and Michael at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (nFwvY)

233 The Light Brigade distinguished itself yesterday, making half a league's progress.

Posted by: The London Mail at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (ZO497)

234 Just saw on CNN we may have dropped a MOAB in the Stan.

And we never lie...

Posted by: This is CNN at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (O2RFr)

235 Meanwhile, I wish Dr. Dao's attorney would STFD and STHU.

Attention whore much?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 13, 2017 11:38 AM (PY9jH)

Which one?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (hLRSq)

236
Didn't the Buffalo Bills almost win 4 Super Bowls in a row?! No other team has done that!
Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:19 PM (3myMJ)

Ahem

Posted by: Denver Broncos at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (lKyWE)

237 Is this where I'm supposed to say, "There are four lights?"

Posted by: Jean-Luc at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (KS1GU)

238 Did they drop it on the Fat Boy or the Skinny Man?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (eZ0Cd)

239 The DEMs went to great lengths NOT to make the election in KS-4 a referendum on Trump!

The DEM talked about Gov. Brownback constantly, but never criticized Trump. That was a conscious strategy, not an oversight.

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (aVY3U)

240 "Helter skelter *didn't* come down, did it, smart guy?!"

Posted by: Leno LaBianca at April 13, 2017 12:23 PM (Bdeb0)

241 The entire legacy media has turned into Vox, Salon, and Buzzfeed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 13, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+)

242 The fact the remains of the hull of the Titanic are still visible on the ocean floor today speak to it's robust design and durability.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at April 13, 2017 12:23 PM (TDJsa)

243 230 Just saw on CNN we may have dropped a MOAB in the Stan.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 13, 2017 12:21 PM (m3iiU)

What's there that requires one of those?

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 12:23 PM (RD7QR)

244 CNN: We won because Bannon's now looking for his shinebox.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:23 PM (fqERy)

245 Either a SOF team was in deep do do or they had info on a high value target.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 12:23 PM (FqgrG)

246 It all depends on the definition of 'we'.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 12:24 PM (wPiJc)

247
CNN: 21 Ways Donald Trump Secretly Causes Your Stubborn Bellyfat

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:24 PM (5FLKM)

248 Either a SOF team was in deep do do or they had info on a high value target.

Hey, I'm already dead...

Posted by: Zombie Osama Bin Laden at April 13, 2017 12:24 PM (O2RFr)

249 not sarc.

News reader on radio:

"with the advent of Spring, there will be more bear sightings as they come out of hibernation."

*head meets desk*

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 12:24 PM (uKRys)

250 231 Moody calls Gray a fake Trump supporter and scoops up elephant poop in his commercial.

Gray calls Moody a Nevertrumper and has a gas powered pump draining a swamp through a firehose in his commercial.

Karen Handel calls them both Establishment and is convinced that this time she will winz for realz.

All seem to agree that Ossoff is a little Nancy Pelosi-funded dick.

Glad this is over on Tuesday.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (5FLKM)
As long as the dem is getting bloodied and the R's patch things up ofter the primary then the result for the dems in the runoff will be pain.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 12:24 PM (fdyVM)

251
Was the voter turnout lower or higher than normal?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (lKyWE)

252 236

Didn't the Buffalo Bills almost win 4 Super Bowls in a row?! No other team has done that!

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:19 PM (3myMJ)

Ahem

Posted by: Denver Broncos at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (lKyWE)

please

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (XoldI)

253 Posted by: Denver Broncos at April 13, 2017 12:22 PM (lKyWE)

Hey, we spread our losses out more and lost by more.

No comparison!

-Da Donks

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (3myMJ)

254 Everyone gets a trophy.

Good luck trying to ignore your "participant" trophy is filled with poo.

Posted by: Dang at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (8b+oT)

255 Only a delusional loser, like the reporter and most Democrats, would assert that a loss is actually a win.

Posted by: steve walsh at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (OaM4X)

256
Winning is losing!

War is peace!

Gender is fluid (so is pee, but whatevs...)!

Posted by: true the looking glazz at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (v1g1+)

257 Custer only lost by a few Indians.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (kTF2Z)

258 "with the advent of Spring, there will be more bear sightings as they come out of hibernation."

-
Keep a close eye on your pic-a-nick baskets!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 12:26 PM (Nwg0u)

259 230 Just saw on CNN

No windows in your cell?

Posted by: Inmate #332185 haz window at April 13, 2017 12:26 PM (Re/7S)

260 51 The Empire only lost two Death Stars, so they won.

Seeing how they're still around in TFA, maybe that is the case?
Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 11:45 AM (7HtZB)

One was only 60% complete. So they only lost 1.6 Death Stars.

And their K/D ratio was pretty high against planets so...winning.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:27 PM (yL25O)

261 and Tom Brady is actually not a good QB

especially late in the game, you know, he just can't come from behind to win

seriously, fellas. And Miley Cyrus is a virgin

Posted by: fun facts for freaks at April 13, 2017 12:27 PM (ihtYN)

262 MOAB?

Nah, that was an M-88 and two Cherry Bombs with the fuses twisted together.

Posted by: Meremortal, weight weight at April 13, 2017 12:27 PM (3myMJ)

263 'Twould be an ounce of prevention to start dealing with this now and strategizing how to deal with it, than get our asses handed to us in 2018, a year where (outside the Senate) have far more seats to defend that could flip than the Dems.
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2017 12:16 PM (rUIbB)

This is true. Overconfidence and all that.

So what should our slogan against the Demunists be in 2018?

"They haven't really changed--they're just pretending...."

"Wolves in sheep's clothing...."

"Don't be fooled...."

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan--how did that work out...."

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 13, 2017 12:27 PM (ujg0T)

264 O/T, but just saw that Jedediah Bila is a cast member on The View. She's rather attractive.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:27 PM (OD2ni)

265 Good luck trying to ignore your "participant" trophy is filled with poo.

******

The dude who takes care of that called in sick today.

Posted by: Lord Stanley at April 13, 2017 12:27 PM (wPiJc)

266 And they never call us.

Posted by: Exhaust Port Solutions at April 13, 2017 12:28 PM (eZ0Cd)

267 That's the Reid option if you don't mind...

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 13, 2017 12:18 PM (O2RFr)

I thought the "Reid Option" was the choice between a Boy Scout or a Cub Scout.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:28 PM (X6fMO)

268 Thay lost a Death Planet!!!!

Posted by: Force Awakens was the awesome at April 13, 2017 12:28 PM (Re/7S)

269
249 not sarc.

News reader on radio:

"with the advent of Spring, there will be more bear sightings as they come out of hibernation."

*head meets desk*
Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 12:24 PM (uKRys)

But they feasted on creepy clowns in the woods before hibernation, so they're not hungry-hungry!

Posted by: creepy clowns who now are bear scat at April 13, 2017 12:28 PM (v1g1+)

270 And Miley Cyrus is a virgin

*******

Miley Cyrus hasn't been a virgin since Aykroyd and Belushi were on.

Posted by: That guy who always says that thing at April 13, 2017 12:29 PM (wPiJc)

271 138 Repeating my observation from earlier, the Democrats went out of their way to depict attorney Thompson as a "Joe Sixpack" type. Campaign photos showed him in a worn baseball cap, t-shirt, and two day beard so he looked like a farmer or a laborer. But with rimless eyeglasses to let Democrats know he was "smart."
Posted by: V the K at April 13, 2017 12:03 PM (CSgup)

***

That's similar to how they're trying to package Pajama Boy Ossof in Georgia -- as a pox-on-both-their-houses deficit hawk. The Republican counter is to show him for what he is -- a reliable rubber-stamp leftist dork.

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at April 13, 2017 12:29 PM (5JlYa)

272 "Gaslighting" is an incredibly stupid term from some stupid old movie which actually has no meaning. People like to use it, because it sounds smart or something, but it conveys no meaning at all.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:29 PM (eAZVt)

273 I thought the "Reid Option" was the choice between a Boy Scout or a Cub Scout.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:28 PM (X6fMO)

What, are you kidding? Boy Scouts are way too old for Harry's tastes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:29 PM (V4ryl)

274 So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 12:30 PM (SIY7D)

275 Somehow they found an even bigger $hitheel to lead the donks in the Senate.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:30 PM (eZ0Cd)

276 I don't see the testiness among GOP contenders in GA-6 being a bad thing. If it drives up GOP turnout, it's benign. Could remind voters that there's an election.

That's a district where voters are middle class suburban-- they aren't going to stay home. Not how they roll.

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 12:31 PM (aVY3U)

277 "Gaslighting" is an incredibly stupid term from some stupid old movie which actually has no meaning. People like to use it, because it sounds smart or something, but it conveys no meaning at all.

*****

And THAT is exactly what they want you to think!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 13, 2017 12:31 PM (wPiJc)

278 Lol. You guys got blood all over your togas. I'm marking this one down as a personal victory.

Posted by: J Caesar at April 13, 2017 12:31 PM (nFwvY)

279 274 So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 12:30 PM (SIY7D)

A long, long scene with a Sergio Leone soundtrack?

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (RD7QR)

280 "That's similar to how they're trying to package Pajama Boy Ossof in Georgia -- as a pox-on-both-their-houses deficit hawk. The Republican counter is to show him for what he is -- a reliable rubber-stamp leftist dork."

I don't think Osoff can pull that off. He look like Pajama Boy.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (OD2ni)

281 Given that Dao was taped talking on his cell phone telling someone to get a lawsuit ready (because he was going to resist and cause force to be used against him) -Rush had this yesterday United has a good chance of winning IMO. Of course if the lawyer gets that squelched then it gets risky for United and corporate probably wants to offer 100K vs risk 5 million so they will only go to court if Dao and lawyer are overly greedy if offered a medium size settlement.
Posted by: PaleRider at April 13, 2017 12:18 PM (8qFZP)

I too would like to see this weasel have to prove his case in civil court, and lose.

I bet beyond the settlement though would be United's fear that they end up getting crime of the century news coverage of what the media will continue to portray as the heroic elderly physician whom United had bludgeoned by way of the Chicago PD.

When the media is still being sympathetic to this ass, and your defense is essentially one of proving he's an ass, it looks to the LIV like insult to injury.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (yL25O)

282 cream:

"we're going wrong"

"deserted cities of the heart"

"swalbr"

sorry, i just had to take a break.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (WTSFk)

283
That's similar to how they're trying to package Pajama Boy Ossof in Georgia -- as a pox-on-both-their-houses deficit hawk. The Republican counter is to show him for what he is -- a reliable rubber-stamp leftist dork.
Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer

_____

He really does look like pajama boy.

I'm amazed Democrats would make that sort of investment on such a worthless candidate. You would have thought they could have recruited someone stronger.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (zcIrz)

284
I... wait a minute... * turns on faux tears * mourn the loss of Senator Comedy, er Senate comity!

Posted by: Schmucky Two-Fer at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (v1g1+)

285 I thought the "Reid Option" was the choice between a Boy Scout or a Cub Scout.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:28 PM (X6fMO)

What, are you kidding? Boy Scouts are way too old for Harry's tastes.
Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:29 PM (V4ryl)

Cub Scout or Webelo's.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (uh5kC)

286 Supposedly dropped it on an IS camp. Got another one handy?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (FqgrG)

287 The Republican counter is to show him for what he is -- a reliable rubber-stamp leftist dork.
***
I would like to see more Reps pointing this out.

It doesn't matter how moderate a Democrat claims to be, they will always, always vote with someone like Pelosi when she needs their vote.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (eSx+E)

288 "Gaslighting" is an incredibly stupid term from some stupid old movie which actually has no meaning. People like to use it, because it sounds smart or something, but it conveys no meaning at all.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:29 PM (eAZVt)

We beg to differ. We use it all the time.

Posted by: Democrat Underground at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (K9oqL)

289 "So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?"

I drink tequila and sake at the same time. Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (OD2ni)

290 "Gaslighting" is an incredibly stupid term from some stupid old movie which actually has no meaning. People like to use it, because it sounds smart or something, but it conveys no meaning at all.

James Madison, to the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (yL25O)

291 "Gaslighting" is an incredibly stupid term from some stupid old movie which actually has no meaning. People like to use it, because it sounds smart or something, but it conveys no meaning at all.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:29 PM (eAZVt)

*sigh*

From MGM, 1944. Gaslight, starring Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman.

http://tinyurl.com/m8aq5cs

As well as a sassy Angela Lansbury:

http://tinyurl.com/llvs9ej

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (X6fMO)

292 So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 12:30 PM (SIY7D)

That's raaaayciss!

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (V4ryl)

293 274 They will stay on station until the bio-diesel runs out.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (fqERy)

294 I actually won the duel because I ended up with a Broadway musical.

Posted by: Zombie Alexander Hamilton at April 13, 2017 12:34 PM (TDJsa)

295 I'm amazed Democrats would make that sort of investment on such a worthless candidate.
***
They've got a lot of dumb celebrities and smart-ish influence peddlers to fund them so....

Posted by: 18-1 at April 13, 2017 12:34 PM (eSx+E)

296 So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 12:30 PM (SIY7D)

------

Sushi tacos.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 13, 2017 12:34 PM (8XRCm)

297 Eddie Munster is against the wall. Time to turn your gavel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:34 PM (eZ0Cd)

298 From what I am reading we may have dropped that MOAB in Afghanistan... Supposedly on a series of tunnels....

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 13, 2017 12:34 PM (O2RFr)

299 274 So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?

----

might be a good time to short your Samsung stock

Posted by: Zombie W Cronkite at April 13, 2017 12:34 PM (PNcou)

300 I'm amazed Democrats would make that sort of investment on such a worthless candidate. You would have thought they could have recruited someone stronger.
Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (zcIrz)

You're amazed? We're talking about the same Democratic party which nominated Hillary even though she lost the primary to Sanders, right?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 13, 2017 12:34 PM (KUaJL)

301 "We beg to differ. We use it all the time.

Posted by: Democrat Underground"

That place was high comedy during the Bush years. Does that fat windbag William Pitt still post there?

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (OD2ni)

302 Syrial you guys.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (eZ0Cd)

303
Is Robbie Mook playing any role in this (D) campaign to install "The Resistance"? Can I help?

Posted by: Kommandante Keefums at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (v1g1+)

304 "So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?"

I have often said, and sometimes loudly, that one of my first actions as president would be to scuttle our ship, the USS Pueblo.

I will donate a kidney to the charity of Trump's choosing if he opens with that move.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (yL25O)

305 From what I am reading we may have dropped that MOAB in Afghanistan... Supposedly on a series of tunnels....
___
I hope it doesn't make Afghanistan tip over.

Posted by: Rep Hank Johnson at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (eSx+E)

306 Eddie Munster is against the wall. Time to turn your gavel.

I wouldn't mind getting Lily Munster against the wall, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (X6fMO)

307 I was thinking of buying the new Samsung Thermal Detonator.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:36 PM (eZ0Cd)

308 A long, long scene with a Sergio Leone soundtrack?

---

At least everyone involved has the squinty-eyes

Posted by: Zombie W Cronkite at April 13, 2017 12:36 PM (PNcou)

309 I thought gaslighting was letting a sbd go as you sit down

Posted by: Guy who is literal at April 13, 2017 12:36 PM (nFwvY)

310 I'm from the 4th Congressional district and Ron Estes was not a good campaigner, was in bed with Brownback, and was a state treasurer. You know, the name you always see when paying your tax debts. But enough of us still believed that he was way better than some young "white" civil rights attorney who is full of shit.

Posted by: Jayhawkfan63 at April 13, 2017 12:36 PM (cSc4o)

311 I think there's two months between the jungle primary in GA-6 next Tuesday, & the two-candidate final in June.

Plenty of time to educate about Pajama Boy.

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 12:36 PM (aVY3U)

312 Were the tunnels built by North Korean contractors by any chance?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (nlbfN)

313 274 So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 12:30 PM (SIY7D)

What's funny about that whole thing? Taiwan and China are actually cooperating in the World Courts on the issue... as both support the historic Chinese claim..

If we stay out of it, they will eventually negotiate this out... between the 5 or 6 Countries involved... China is building these atolls so they have a seat at the Table, as a large part of their shipping goes through these waters...

But if we play the heavy handed World Cop crap... it could devolve into an actual confrontation IMO.

Posted by: Don Q. at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (NgKpN)

314 "From MGM, 1944. Gaslight, starring Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman."

I know that. But what does the term mean? I have never seen a definition that wasn't a bunch of mush.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (eAZVt)

315 "I wouldn't mind getting Lily Munster against the wall, IYKWIM"

I'll take Marilyn (Pat Priest version).

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (OD2ni)

316 304 "So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?"

I have often said, and sometimes loudly, that one of my first actions as president would be to scuttle our ship, the USS Pueblo.

I will donate a kidney to the charity of Trump's choosing if he opens with that move.
Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (yL25O)

Hell yes. That's the kind of shit the SEALS were built for.

Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (fdyVM)

317 "Gaslighting" is an incredibly stupid term from some stupid old movie which actually has no meaning. People like to use it, because it sounds smart or something, but it conveys no meaning at all.

Posted by: Chris M

1. "incredibly stupid" means you can't believe it's stupid.

2. It's from a play that became a movie

3. It has a meaning whether or not you like or agree with it:

Oxford Dictionary:
VERB

[ WITH OBJECT ]
Manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.

4. Or they use it to describe a situation in which someone believes another person is attempting to manipulate viewpoints or opinion. Right? Either or is possible here, right?

5. Who pee'd in your cornflakes today?

6. Why did you proceed to eat them?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (GgzGa)

318 Eddie Munster is against the wall. Time to turn your gavel.

-
Ryno is trying to block building the wall. That's a vote-getter there.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (Nwg0u)

319 *ogg-giddy-gog-giddy-gog*

Hillary Ain't President!

*wobble way back to nest*

...gaddamned gaslighters.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (6gk0M)

320 Oh, good grief. United is not having a good week.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-13/
scorpion-stings-passenger-united-flight

Posted by: rickl at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (xjiRE)

321 I thought gaslighting was letting a sbd go as you sit down

Too close to an open flame and it's ass lighting.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (uh5kC)

322 So how does a Mexican Stand off end? With a hat dance of course!

Posted by: Strobe at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (gbWkA)

323 257 Custer only lost by a few Indians.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 13, 2017 12:25 PM (kTF2Z)

And the referees were so one-sided.

Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (yL25O)

324 That place was high comedy during the Bush years. Does that fat windbag William Pitt still post there?
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (OD2ni)

Rarely, if at all. Even they hounded his fat ass out. It got pretty hilarious after Nov, of course, but they're so deranged now that it's simply headache inducing.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (K9oqL)

325 301 "We beg to differ. We use it all the time.

Posted by: Democrat Underground"

That place was high comedy during the Bush years. Does that fat windbag William Pitt still post there?
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (OD2ni)

Which William Pitt - Pitt the Elder or the Younger?

Posted by: josephistan at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (7HtZB)

326 307 I was thinking of buying the new Samsung Thermal Detonator.
It goes nicely with their Fvcking washing machines.

Posted by: Under Fire at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (fqERy)

327 A long, long scene with a Sergio Leone soundtrack?
Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 12:32 PM (RD7QR)

This would be awesome. Haunting music plays while the camera alternates between:

A U.S. aircraft carrier (the good)
A Chinese aircraft carrier (the bad)
A fat little Korean kid on a tugboat (the ugly)

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (V4ryl)

328 You're amazed? We're talking about the same Democratic party which nominated Hillary even though she lost the primary to Sanders, right?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously

____

Remember though, we're also the Stupid Party.

Recruiting a 30 year old documentary filmmaker that doesn't look like he can legally buy beer seems extra stupid even for Democrats. I've seen CRAZY estimates of the amount of money the Left has poured into it.

You would think they could have at least found some local state Representative that has at least won a few elections in the state to run instead.

Posted by: Maritime at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (zcIrz)

329 V the K, there was a Philip Dick movie. The Adjustment Bureau.

Matt Damon's character ran for NY state Senate as a Democrat and got his ass handed to him. he then gave a speech blaming his handlers for micro-tuning his appearance: he had to be rumpled but not TOO rumpled, he had to wear the right kind of tie, all this tiny little signals pandering to this or that constituency but without turning off the soccer moms.

the overall movie was ass, and I hate Damon, but that was a good speech.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at April 13, 2017 12:38 PM (GOL7u)

330 Posted by: MPPP at April 13, 2017 12:33 PM (X6fMO)

That is such a good flick.

Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (uKRys)

331 You kids keep it down out there.

*nestles into comforter*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (6gk0M)

332
Plenty of time to educate about Pajama Boy.

==

Perfect description of Ossoff.

Posted by: Mortimer - FINISH HER ! at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (5FLKM)

333 Trump building up massive deportation force. Have Jackboots will travel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (eZ0Cd)

334 "321 I thought gaslighting was letting a sbd go as you sit down"

Or crop dusting the snobs in First Class as you head to your seat in Coach.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (OD2ni)

335 nood, I think

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 13, 2017 12:40 PM (V4ryl)

336 "with the advent of Spring, there will be more bear sightings as they come out of hibernation."
---------

Yep. I already had an unexpected night encounter while walking the cat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2017 12:40 PM (ZO497)

337 We came very close to reaching orbit.

Posted by: Challenger Crew at April 13, 2017 12:40 PM (Fmupd)

338 "4. Or they use it to describe a situation in which someone believes
another person is attempting to manipulate viewpoints or opinion. Right?
Either or is possible here, right?"

See what I mean? Mush.

"5. Who pee'd in your cornflakes today?"

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:40 PM (eAZVt)

339 Obama won my county twice.

Trump only won it by 19%

I mean, he couldn't even top 20% for God's sake. Whadda loser.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 13, 2017 12:41 PM (s/EUv)

340 You want gaslighting? I'll show you gaslighting.

Posted by: Dude in Fire Bad in Sidebar at April 13, 2017 12:41 PM (XoldI)

341 Nood MOAB

Posted by: tbodie at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (Z7b/F)

342 334 "321 I thought gaslighting was letting a sbd go as you sit down"

Or crop dusting the snobs in First Class as you head to your seat in Coach.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (OD2ni)

That's why First Class is to the left of the doorway & behind a curtain and... you people are to the right.

Posted by: First Class Snobs at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (7HtZB)

343
Trump building up massive deportation force. Have Jackboots will travel.
***
Remember when Bill Clinton promised to hire a million new jackboots, err...police?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 13, 2017 12:42 PM (eSx+E)

344 I have often said, and sometimes loudly, that one of my first actions as president would be to scuttle our ship, the USS Pueblo.

I will donate a kidney to the charity of Trump's choosing if he opens with that move.
Posted by: Texas Dan at April 13, 2017 12:35 PM (yL25O)

Hell yes. That's the kind of shit the SEALS were built for.
Posted by: Jackal at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (fdyVM)

Communist China has built up regional military naval superiority, even over the U.S. These shipping lanes can not be handed over to their whims.

Frankly, I have no problem with the United States having a peaceful military dominance over the seas.

I also have to problem with developing plans to solve China's over-population problem and partition the remains in such a way that even Henry Morgenthau would be shocked at.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (rUIbB)

345 I know that. But what does the term mean? I have never seen a definition that wasn't a bunch of mush.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:37 PM (eAZVt)

My own answer would be that the term, of course, derives from the movie's title, which has two meanings: it reflects that the prevalent form of lighting in 1880 (when the movie takes place) was gas and that, in the movie, in order to drive his wife insane, the leading man fiddles with the gaslight in the house, making it glow bright or dim with no apparent reason.

So, because of that, the term "gaslighting" came into common use as shorthand for someone telling you that what you clearly, rationally perceive is completely wrong - and that you are the only one who believes what you believe.

I'm no JamesMadison, but does that help?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (X6fMO)

346 Blue Dog DEMs-- remember them? If so, you're showing your age.

They're deader than George Michael. There are reasons for that. Ossoff can't ride that ancient Blue Dog wheeze to victory these days.

Scoop Jackson couldn't win a DEM primary today. If he were alive, I suspect he'd switch parties.

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (aVY3U)

347 Dao did not "cause" force to be used against him; the airline had the option of asking him once again to leave, and then coming up with some other option that did not involve force. The airline had all of the power here, not Dao, and the fact that he may have anticipated them taking some illegal action against him is not relevant at all to the case he has against them.

At least if I'm his attorney, that's the argument I make to get that evidence tossed out. I think it's a winner. By publicly blaming the cops yesterday, the United CEO has already destroyed any argument his legal team could have made about the "necessity" of his treatment.

United will *never* let this go to trial, even if he ups the ante to $50 million. They're going to lose 10 times that if this drags out in some political show trial where they will be raked over the coals every day. It isn't just that Dao is going to win; he has ALREADY won. All that's left is to bicker about the price tag, and even there Dao is holding a straight flush.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (KeRkT)

348 "See what I mean? Mush."

It's not our problem you can't understand a simple concept. Is your own ignorance your pet peeve? Because that's what's getting aired here.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (wKLtz)

349 333 Trump building up massive deportation force. Have Jackboots will travel.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 13, 2017 12:39 PM (eZ0Cd)

It'll be meaningless without reflective sunglasses.

Posted by: joncelli, Present at the Autopsy at April 13, 2017 12:43 PM (RD7QR)

350 So how does our Mexican standoff in the Sea of Japan play out?

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2017 12:30 PM (SIY7D)

Is that like a Kyoto sushi show?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet -Your Conspiracy Theory Outfitter - Reynolds Wrap 30% Off! at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (hLRSq)

351 We are the pee in the cornflakes we have been waiting for.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (7T8jT)

352 I know that, deep down, I'm a winner.

Posted by: RMS Titanic at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (326rv)

353 "It's not our problem you can't understand a simple concept. Is your own
ignorance your pet peeve? Because that's what's getting aired here."

Psych! I just gaslighted you all.

Posted by: Chris M at April 13, 2017 12:46 PM (eAZVt)

354 291 "Gaslighting" is an incredibly stupid term from some stupid old movie which actually has no meaning. People like to use it, because it sounds smart or something, but it conveys no meaning at all. "

It's a great movie. I take it you're one of those people who thinks history began the day you were born - which judging from your comment was about 2005 or so.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (s7vJs)

355 Scoop Jackson couldn't win a DEM primary today. If he were alive, I suspect he'd switch parties.
***
Not only would the political norm of the early 60s be considered "far rightwing" in today's politics, but most people of that era would call the modern Democrat party's goals flat out evil.

I mean seriously, imagine how the public in say 1962 would have reacted to a candidate running on a platform of:

Jailing Christians
Banning free speech
Government funded abortions
etc...etc..etc..

Posted by: 18-1 at April 13, 2017 12:47 PM (eSx+E)

356 Nate was my cis-assigned birth name.

Posted by: Sally Cohn at April 13, 2017 12:48 PM (7T8jT)

357 #53 And off cycle elections are notoriously unreliable indicators when Democrats lose.

FIFY

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 13, 2017 12:49 PM (LeUrG)

358 They've gone full retard. Speaking of which, Tropic Thunder is on Netflix streaming.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 13, 2017 12:50 PM (0mRoj)

359 I think gaslighting is a useful shorthand term for a simple discrete concept.

You want mush? OMG... where to start? We could have whole mush contest thread.

populist; neocon; fake news

Posted by: mnw at April 13, 2017 12:52 PM (aVY3U)

360 LOL these mutual masturbation "Most" lists

http://tinyurl.com/lffocj5

Posted by: steevy at April 13, 2017 12:54 PM (r/0kC)

361 I can't understand siding with that crying bitch doctor. His pussiness makes my skin crawl. No consideration for the other passengers or the unseen passengers on the flight the crew were going to. Nope, fuck them. I went to Ho Chi Minh upstairs medical college and paid $109 for my transferable refundable ticket. I'm surprised a passenger didn't knock him cold when he came running back on the plane. I guarantee he wouldn't have said a word if some other passenger had been picked in the lottery, so it wasn't the principle, it was the principal.

Posted by: Guy who is literal at April 13, 2017 12:56 PM (nFwvY)

362 230 Just saw on CNN we may have dropped a MOAB in the Stan.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 13, 2017 12:21 PM (m3iiU)

What's there that requires one of those?

Posted by: joncelli
****

ISIS
We lost a spec ops guy there to them.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 13, 2017 01:02 PM (+aCe4)

363 NYT is running big story today about Republicans "fearful" and pushing same horseshit about Georgia special election next week. Features a picture of Dem candidate Osoff that belongs in the dictionary under "pencil-neck".

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 13, 2017 01:07 PM (LeUrG)

364
I am sick and tired of these m_____f___king scorpions on this m_____f___king plane!

Posted by: yet another Samuel L Jackson yelling loudly movie... at April 13, 2017 01:16 PM (v1g1+)

365 Liar media did the same thing with the other election that took place to replace Mike Pompeo.

In first report, CBS radio announced that the republican won by an eight point margin. In the next report, it turned out the race was "unexpectedly tight".

Deception, dissembling and deflection is their expertise. They are not journalists, unless the definition of journalist is Professional Liar.

Posted by: kallisto at April 13, 2017 01:36 PM (kD8Fh)

366 totally correct not to get cocky though. Republicans actually need to pass some good policy and get shit done. Otherwise, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Maj Leader Shumer are in our future.

Posted by: Jeffrey R. Carter at April 13, 2017 01:40 PM (Cgudb)

367 So, winning by 8 points is 'unexpectedly close'?

Good to know.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at April 13, 2017 01:55 PM (Quwsn)

368 Hillary? President? Man I just ate. Gotta run. >urp<

Posted by: BJ54 at April 13, 2017 02:09 PM (Bed/U)

369 Soory, I'm not drinking the Koolaid. I remember when Dems won an election in Palm Beach by 30 and they were celebrating about how bad the Tea Party lost, I pointed out that if every district performed the same, Republicans would pick up 80 seats in 2010. Winning by 5 in Kansas is an ominous sign. Even worse is if they lose Georgia.

Posted by: MikeN at April 13, 2017 02:14 PM (o/eHL)

370 Stupid analysis by MSM. I grew up in KS and it's fairly well known that sedgwick County (read wichita) is leftist. Sure they elect republicans, but they are true RINOs (i.e. they really are Dems but realize if they don't run as an R they probably won't win). MSM trues to use that to cast Sedgwick as moderate but that's only true on a federal scale, for KS it's liberal. Kansas used the term RINO before the term came to mean liberal to moderate Republicans as we honestly had people run as Republican who never voted R in any federal elections. They did this because many if not most races in Kansas are decided in the Republican primary.

I guess I'm saying the MSM analysis is not to be trusted...I know, shocking

Posted by: aivanther at April 13, 2017 03:45 PM (Kp81N)

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