Freedom Caucus Leader Mark Meadows: "We're Very Close" to a Deal on Obamacare

We'll make such great deals you won't believe all the great deals we're making.

Meadows says they're so close they might have a vote as soon as they get back from their two week break -- or even sooner, he says. The House Members had been told they might be recalled to DC for a vote if needed, and Meadows is at least talking up that possibility.

Sexton notes the "moderates" might still revolt at the notion of doing what they've promised to do for eight years. Oh well -- walk the plank, like Democrats did in 2009.

Posted by: Ace at 08:06 PM

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1 when will country matter more than party?

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 07:59 PM (0O7c5)

2 THE PLANK! THE PLANK!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 08:00 PM (tHwdc)

3 they all just suck so suckishly to where i hate them all

hi i'm mark meadows i believe in freeeeeeedum

oh shut the hell up

Posted by: happyfeet at April 11, 2017 08:01 PM (mLfQi)

4 The difference is that moderate Dems were voting for a law that no one wanted. Moderate Republicans would be voting for a law that isn't perfect, but hopefully moves in the direction people want, even if they aren't happy with all of it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 11, 2017 08:02 PM (fKWf6)

5 Oh, yeah, let's talk about the GOP and Obamacare some more.

/sarc

Here's something else to ponder for those bored with end-of-the-day political gossip:

I'm very curious to find out what the first "rock t-shirt" was.

I've read somewhere that a Humble Pie shirt from 1969 was possibly the first -- I but I also remember seeing a famous concert video of Bob Dylan from earlier in the '60s wearing a t-shirt with some other performer's name on it -- though I can no longer track down that video or incident.

Anyone have a clue as to what the first rock t-shirt really was?

And by "rock t-shirt" I mean a mass-produced t-shirt with a band's logo printed on it, for fans -- or possibly commemorating a rock concert.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

6 Winning in stages.

Posted by: ALH at April 11, 2017 08:03 PM (LwrKF)

7 You have to pass the bill to find out what isn't in it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 11, 2017 08:03 PM (oVJmc)

8 We'll even throw in these beautiful floor mats!

Posted by: Our Betters at April 11, 2017 08:06 PM (Tyii7)

9 Haha at everyone acting like the first attempt was the end of the story.

In other news I happened upon Death Wish II last night on one of the antenna channels and was surprised I enjoyed it even more than watching it 30 years ago. Watching Bronson take out the trash never gets old. Of course they cut out all the really nasty bits like the maid rape and his daughter impaling herself on a fence after jumping out of a window.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2017 08:06 PM (4ErVI)

10 I got my first two in 1973.

"The first rock concert T-shirt was produced by one of Elvis Presley's fan clubs during the late 1950s, and shirts featuring The Beatles go back as far as 1964. However, it wasn't until the hippie era of the late 1960s that the rock concert T-shirt arrived as a viable commercial product.
The proliferation of the rock concert T-shirt is due in large part to famed concert promoter Bill Graham (1931-1991), owner and operator of the legendary venues Filmore West (San Fancisco) and Filmore East (New York City). Graham produced shows featuring such psychedelic acts as the Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service, and Big Brother and the Holding Company, often using T-shirts to help promote and make money for the bands."

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 11, 2017 08:07 PM (SIY7D)

11 Mark Meadows? Sounds like a game show host name.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 11, 2017 08:07 PM (RrhD2)

12 Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 08:08 PM (hPLVk)

13 5
I'm very curious to find out what the first "rock t-shirt" was.

I've read somewhere that a Humble Pie shirt from 1969 was possibly the first -- I but I also remember seeing a famous concert video of Bob Dylan from earlier in the '60s wearing a t-shirt with some other performer's name on it -- though I can no longer track down that video or incident.

Anyone have a clue as to what the first rock t-shirt really was?

And by "rock t-shirt" I mean a mass-produced t-shirt with a band's logo printed on it, for fans -- or possibly commemorating a rock concert.
Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

That's a great question. I don't have an answer, except to say that I have a hard time picturing Bob Dylan in a t-shirt. The closest I've seen is the Highway 61 Revisited album cover, where he was wearing a Triumph motorcycle t-shirt, with an unbuttoned long-sleeve shirt over it.

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 08:08 PM (sdi6R)

14 I got my Obamacare .30-06 Rifle the other day, and 500 rounds of ammo from LuckyGunner ... Thanks Obama.

And that is just one month's premium. I promised to buy myself something nice each month since they priced me out of the market. Hopefully they make some good changes, but too late to help many of us since they made it illegal to just buy insurance for ourselves and not have two illegals and a pregnant druggie in expensive therapy added on.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 11, 2017 08:09 PM (TmCOq)

15
Recalled to DC to vote? Recalled and lose our opportunity to be among our liitle peeps?

* Harumph! *

Good day to you, sir!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 11, 2017 08:09 PM (v1g1+)

16 Sexton notes the "moderates" might still revolt at the notion of doing what they've promised to do for eight years.

Posted by: Ace at 08:06 PM
_________

Ace, how isnt this also true for the HFC? This deal will merely be a different kind of fix, right?

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at April 11, 2017 08:10 PM (A3RH8)

17 1 when will country matter more than party?
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 07:59 PM (0O7c5)

---

Never is my guess.

Posted by: SMFH at April 11, 2017 08:10 PM (sB1y1)

18 Haha at everyone acting like the first attempt was the end of the story.

I was solemnly assured that the Congressional docket was full.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 08:10 PM (hPLVk)

19 when will country matter more than party?
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at

well, in some circles it does. we just need to have wider circles.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 11, 2017 08:11 PM (cPsPa)

20 #1,
Well, Washington (as in George) had ideas...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 11, 2017 08:11 PM (MINbv)

21 Paul Anka had shirts pretty early on. All the guys got them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2017 08:12 PM (8ZskC)

22 "The first rock concert T-shirt was produced by one of Elvis Presley's fan clubs during the late 1950s, and shirts featuring The Beatles go back as far as 1964. However, it wasn't until the hippie era of the late 1960s that the rock concert T-shirt arrived as a viable commercial product.
Posted by: Ignoramus

Hmmm, I'd like to see pictures of those as proof!

But were the Beatles shirts made by the Beatles (or their parent corporations), or just by freelance fans? I suspect the latter. And the Elvis fanclub shirt was also fan-produced. So, I'm still wondering -- what was the first shirt produced by a band (or their parent company) as a promotional items for fans to wear?

I'm thinking that the Bill Graham stuff might be irrelevant -- I have a feeling he didn't start doing them until the early '70s, after the band t-shirt concept had already been invented. Sure, he may have helped to popularize them -- but invent them? Hmmmm.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:12 PM (DQ4Fv)

23 Paul Anka had shirts pretty early on. All the guys got them.

except for Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 08:12 PM (hPLVk)

24 They're "nookin' pa nub" is my guess.

Posted by: 80's music fan at April 11, 2017 08:12 PM (HCnEB)

25 We'll see. I expect the GOP to do their usual back-stabbing.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 11, 2017 08:13 PM (BHMfA)

26 well, having the firs effort at repeal was not so much a failure as a learning expereience for Trump. for ryan, not the same.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 11, 2017 08:13 PM (cPsPa)

27 Hi SMFH.

Glad to see you around.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 08:13 PM (fiGNd)

28 1 when will country matter more than party?
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 07:59 PM (0O7c5)

We're gonna party hard!

Posted by: Andrew W. K. at April 11, 2017 08:14 PM (0mRoj)

29 Heya ScoggDog.

Thanks.

Posted by: SMFH at April 11, 2017 08:14 PM (sB1y1)

30 Met 7-1

I think the Phillies had Hawaain Pizza before the game.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 11, 2017 08:14 PM (Ej9qT)

31 My friends, you have nothing to fear from my girlfriend Lindsey and I........

Posted by: John McCain at April 11, 2017 08:15 PM (FqgrG)

32 The Caucus of Freedom, spreadin' freedom across the land for you and me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2017 08:15 PM (8ZskC)

33 I remember seeing Dead "ice cream kid" shirts.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 08:15 PM (7dpmG)

34 Winning?

Who wants to win when you can be an aggrieved victim and sex confused and the recipient of free stuff?

Winning starts with at 'W' word...WORK.

Work is for losers.....

Posted by: 'Cold Civil War'. That seems apt. at April 11, 2017 08:15 PM (oBuXO)

35 Aaarrrggg, make em walk the plank.

Posted by: Morigu at April 11, 2017 08:15 PM (x6Ax6)

36 Mets 8-1.

Defiantly Hawaain Pizza

Posted by: Kreplach at April 11, 2017 08:16 PM (Ej9qT)

37 the only thing i expect the gop to do is nail us in the squeakhole. with no lube, good and hard. fuckers.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 08:16 PM (KP5rU)

38 I rarely go to concerts anymore, but I used to go a lot. Eventually I started wearing different t-shirts to shows. For example, I'd wear Band A's shirt to a Band B concert, and a Band C shirt to a Band A concert. Just for the hell of it.

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

39 So.... are we sad or glad? I'm so confused.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at April 11, 2017 08:17 PM (Gs5TH)

40 37 the only thing i expect the gop to do is nail us in the squeakhole. with no lube, good and hard. fuckers.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 08:16 PM (KP5rU)

They're nothing if not predictable.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at April 11, 2017 08:17 PM (0mRoj)

41 Graham was a hustler, and was promoting shows at the old Fillmore from the mid 60s, which predated what became the Fillmore West in 68. I wouldn't rule him out.

Graham is in Apocalypse Now as the emcee for the Playboy Bunny show. Suzie Q, indeed

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 11, 2017 08:17 PM (SIY7D)

42 the only thing i expect the gop to do is nail us in the squeakhole. with no lube, good and hard. fuckers.

LINDSEY! You're up!

Posted by: Sen. John McCain, (M)averick at April 11, 2017 08:17 PM (8ZskC)

43 nail us in the squeakhole. with no lube, good and hard.

How you doing?

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at April 11, 2017 08:17 PM (FqgrG)

44 Girls wearing home-made Rolling Stones T-shirts, at a Stones concert in 1966:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/GLIMMERBOY/RoyalalbertHall1966_zps64617c91.jpg

Not mass-produced, but a great photo!

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:18 PM (DQ4Fv)

45 Better the second try than not at all?

This is why you get your ducks in a row and prepare the narrative.

You make the changes you can via reconciliation.

Then you tell the Dems that the changes are now law, and they can either get with it and make it better (to be blamed for any failures while the GOP gins up the "bipartisanship" angle), or be blamed for it when Obamacare collapse (and if it doesn't point out that the reconciliation changes saved us... for now, despite the Dems intransigence).

Posted by: The Politically Machinating Hat at April 11, 2017 08:18 PM (rUIbB)

46 Wiiiiiiide t-shirts.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:18 PM (DQ4Fv)

47 the only thing i expect the gop to do is nail us in the squeakhole. with no lube, good and hard. fuckers.

Sweet talk me all you want, you're not getting a t-shirt.

Posted by: Barry Manilow at April 11, 2017 08:18 PM (8ZskC)

48 I saw Band A open for Band B at the C back in '83.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at April 11, 2017 08:19 PM (Tyii7)

49 *lights cigarette*

Zombie, that was great...

Posted by: The margins at April 11, 2017 08:19 PM (0mRoj)

50 At this point the only thing the GOP wants to give me is Hawaiian Pizza.

Do not trust them.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 11, 2017 08:19 PM (Ej9qT)

51 Girls wearing home-made Rolling Stones T-shirts, at a Stones concert in 1966:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/GLIMMERBOY/RoyalalbertHall1966_zps64617c91.jpg

Not mass-produced, but a great photo!

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:18 PM (DQ4Fv)

Too old...

Posted by: Bill Wyman at April 11, 2017 08:19 PM (rUIbB)

52 United's CEO needs to send Spicer a fruit basket

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 11, 2017 08:19 PM (SIY7D)

53 The difference is that moderate Dems were voting for
a law that no one wanted. Moderate Republicans would be voting for a
law that isn't perfect, but hopefully moves in the direction people
want, even if they aren't happy with all of it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 11, 2017 08:02 PM (fKWf6)

That is an excuse... and not a very good one.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 11, 2017 08:19 PM (FTXAT)

54 I saw Band A open for Band B at the C back in '83.

That was a great show. The C burned down the very next year.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (hPLVk)

55 nail us in the squeakhole. with no lube, good and hard.

Who have you been talking to!?

Posted by: Barack Tahiti at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (FqgrG)

56 OOOOOooooh!

Official band-produced Rolling Stones t-shirt -- from 1966!! :

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm251/Fucqua/66tshirtcopy_zps745e3120.jpg

I think WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

1966. Can anyone top that?

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

57 Mark Meadows? Sounds like a game show host name.

My congressman, actually.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (bZ7mE)

58 I think Meadows was badly treated by Trump in this Ryancare mess. Its very possible that Trump won NC because Meadows stuck by him during Pussygate. I remember going out to a DTjr "rally" in the middle nowhere (a farmer's barn) and Meadows was there talking up Trump. All the same time Ryan was busy stabbing Trump in the back.

Posted by: MAGA at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (A4HOq)

59 Girls wearing home-made Rolling Stones T-shirts, at a Stones concert in 1966:

That was before Brian Jones took a poorly-planned nap in the deep end of the pool.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2017 08:21 PM (8ZskC)

60 Didn't Gorsuch get confirmed just yesterday? What's with all the "they screw us every time" business? Only some of the time. I

Posted by: Chris not rock at April 11, 2017 08:21 PM (fgxjK)

61 Define "rock".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 08:22 PM (vRcUp)

62
well, having the firs effort at repeal was not so much a failure as a learning expereience for Trump. for ryan, not the same.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 11, 2017 08:13 PM (cPsPa)

I agree... but then Ryan wants no parts of repeal or fiscal restraint.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 11, 2017 08:22 PM (FTXAT)

63 Thanks Spicer! Here's some complimentary tickets and a helmet.

Posted by: CEO Oscar Munoz at April 11, 2017 08:22 PM (89T5c)

64 5 Oh, yeah, let's talk about the GOP and Obamacare some more.

/sarc

Here's something else to ponder for those bored with end-of-the-day political gossip:

I'm very curious to find out what the first "rock t-shirt" was.

I've read somewhere that a Humble Pie shirt from 1969 was possibly the first -- I but I also remember seeing a famous concert video of Bob Dylan from earlier in the '60s wearing a t-shirt with some other performer's name on it -- though I can no longer track down that video or incident.

Anyone have a clue as to what the first rock t-shirt really was?

And by "rock t-shirt" I mean a mass-produced t-shirt with a band's logo printed on it, for fans -- or possibly commemorating a rock concert.
Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:02 PM (DQ4Fv)

Cool photo! They're not t-shirts, either. They're long sleeve with buttons that seem to have the band members' faces on them. Maybe they were homemade. Girls at that time probably had learned some seamstressing.

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 08:22 PM (sdi6R)

65
I think Meadows was badly treated by Trump in this Ryancare mess. Its
very possible that Trump won NC because Meadows stuck by him during
Pussygate. I remember going out to a DTjr "rally" in the middle nowhere
(a farmer's barn) and Meadows was there talking up Trump. All the same
time Ryan was busy stabbing Trump in the back.

Posted by: MAGA at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (A4HOq)

Dave Brat was the same way in Virginia.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 11, 2017 08:23 PM (FTXAT)

66 Whoops. Copy and past fail. Let me try that again.

44 Girls wearing home-made Rolling Stones T-shirts, at a Stones concert in 1966:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/GLIMMERBOY/RoyalalbertHall1966_zps64617c91.jpg

Not mass-produced, but a great photo!
Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:18 PM (DQ4Fv)

Cool photo! They're not t-shirts, either. They're long sleeve with buttons that seem to have the band members' faces on them. Maybe they were homemade. Girls at that time probably had learned some seamstressing.

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 08:23 PM (sdi6R)

67 Underrated J Geils Band song...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVZLqe77IQU

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 08:23 PM (7dpmG)

68 Did they have concerts at the Cow Palace? What did they do with the cows during the shows? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:23 PM (Tyii7)

69 60 Didn't Gorsuch get confirmed just yesterday? What's with all the "they screw us every time" business? Only some of the time. I
Posted by: Chris not rock at April 11, 2017 08:21 PM (fgxjK)

So one thing right and all is forgiven? Yeah, no.

Posted by: buzzion at April 11, 2017 08:24 PM (z/Ubi)

70 Paste, dammit, not past.

I clearly need more alcohol.

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 08:24 PM (sdi6R)

71 The only thing that doesn't make me feel too bad about Trump attacking the Freedom Caucus is the fact they don't have a replacement plan of their own. Granted repeal alone would be good enough for me, but Trump specifically ran on repeal and replace.

Posted by: MAGA at April 11, 2017 08:24 PM (A4HOq)

72 Ugh.

Just saw an intentional pitch less walk.

Bizarre.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 11, 2017 08:24 PM (Ej9qT)

73 Thanks Spicer! Here's some complimentary tickets and a helmet.

Posted by: CEO Oscar Munoz at April 11, 2017 08:22 PM (89T5c)

LOL... get back to me when you stock isn't over half a billion down.

Posted by: Spicer at April 11, 2017 08:24 PM (FTXAT)

74 At least Hitler didn't pay perverts to molest children like Alfred Kinsey did.

Posted by: Sean Spicer at April 11, 2017 08:25 PM (vRcUp)

75 50 At this point the only thing the GOP wants to give me is Hawaiian Pizza.

Do not trust them.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 11, 2017 08:19 PM (Ej9qT)

They're bring chili with carrots in it too.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2017 08:25 PM (4ErVI)

76 Good thing they hadn't already voted on a bill. Because that shit would be embarassing.

Posted by: HR 3762 at April 11, 2017 08:26 PM (fiGNd)

77 72 Ugh.
Just saw an intentional pitch less walk.
Bizarre.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 11, 2017 08:24 PM (Ej9qT)

Communism.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 11, 2017 08:26 PM (SRKgf)

78 the cows went to pasture

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 08:26 PM (eQSM0)

79 SMFH- Hope you are over whatever crud you had and are feeling better.

Did you ever get to see John Wick?

Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 08:27 PM (j06YM)

80 RE: deals, have the Chicoms ever said they'd "help" the US with their fat retard cousin before?

It seem to me... no.

But I could be wrong.

Posted by: shibumi at April 11, 2017 08:27 PM (FkAXz)

81 what does this all mean? is it going to be something better, less expensive, covering more existing conditions? it is all so complex. i'm having trouble figuring out who to blame for the bad feelings that i'm having.

Posted by: goon at April 11, 2017 08:27 PM (EaQ6/)

82 Hawaiian Pizza, Chili with carrots, and Zima as a beverage!

Posted by: GOP at April 11, 2017 08:27 PM (FqgrG)

83 the cows went to pasture

Makes sense. Thanks.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:28 PM (Tyii7)

84 I heard a couple of cherry 87 Grand Ams were found in some long term storage!

Posted by: MAGA at April 11, 2017 08:28 PM (A4HOq)

85 68 Did they have concerts at the Cow Palace? What did they do with the cows during the shows? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks

The Cow Palace (in SF) started out intending to be a venue for livestock shows, but even from the very beginning the livestock auctions/shows were held only very infrequently -- maybe once or twice per year -- and the rest of the time it would have been vacant. Since it was built in 1941, it was immediately upon completion pressed into service as a troop processing center for WWII, and from that moment on it was used as a convention center and concert hall ever since, on the 364 days a year it wasn't filled with cows. So the answer is: The cows were back at the slaughterhouses in Tracy when bands played the Cow Palace.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

86 I still love Freeze Frame. Catchy as shit.

Posted by: Mega at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (1CtvB)

87 What the deal means is that states will be able to opt out of Obamacare

Posted by: MAGA at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (A4HOq)

88 Build the wall.

Posted by: Batterup at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (mtGE/)

89 "Oh well -- walk the plank, like Democrats did in 2009."

Tsk, tsk, comparing our gutless Republicans in Congress to the Democrats?

Even Hilter didn't say such mean things.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (Pz4pT)

90 Hey Sean
Next time Tapper asks a question just respond " hey Jake , I cant understand you. How about spitting out Obamas dick for like 20 seconds? Yeah thanks. "

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at April 11, 2017 08:30 PM (UD5U6)

91 79 SMFH- Hope you are over whatever crud you had and are feeling better.

Did you ever get to see John Wick?
Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 08:27 PM (j06YM)

---

Got the flu. Taking tamiflu, which has helped thus far.

And yes I did.

Made me smile from ear to ear.

Posted by: SMFH at April 11, 2017 08:30 PM (sB1y1)

92 Also... re: RGB calling Lindsay Graham a she, I think there's really only one explanation.

RGB has been reading the HQ and now just defaults to Miss Lindsay.

Posted by: shibumi at April 11, 2017 08:30 PM (FkAXz)

93 Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

Impressive. You would kick Siri's ass.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2017 08:30 PM (8ZskC)

94 The cows were back at the slaughterhouses in Tracy when bands played the Cow Palace.

Were they given rain checks?

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:30 PM (Tyii7)

95 GD 12/31/76 show from cp is really good.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 08:30 PM (7dpmG)

96 Went to plenty of Horseshows in the Cow Palace.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 08:31 PM (j06YM)

97 OT:

Only the early vote so far, but the Dem in the Kansas special election is ahead by over 20 points.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kumod7r

Posted by: The Electoral Hat at April 11, 2017 08:31 PM (rUIbB)

98 12/31/76 is a classic.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 08:32 PM (2Vobm)

99 Impressive. You would kick Siri's ass.

Agreed. Zombie put us some knowledge there.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:32 PM (Tyii7)

100 84; buick gn's. big difference. gran ams are the cars guidos girlfriends drove.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 08:32 PM (KP5rU)

101 82 Hawaiian Pizza, Chili with carrots, and Zima as a beverage!
Posted by: GOP at April 11, 2017 08:27 PM (FqgrG)

OK, that's it. We now have the menu for the White House ~~Democrat Steno Pool~~ Correspondents' Dinner.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 11, 2017 08:32 PM (SRKgf)

102 At this point the only thing the GOP wants to give me is Hawaiian Pizza.
--

The GOP wants to give you everything you want. They have told me that many, many times.

The only problem is that they're lying.

Do they know they're lying?

IDK.

Do psychopaths know that they're psychopaths?

The might, however they probably don't care.

Same with the GOP.

Posted by: shibumi at April 11, 2017 08:33 PM (FkAXz)

103 97 OT:

Only the early vote so far, but the Dem in the Kansas special election is ahead by over 20 points.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kumod7r
Posted by: The Electoral Hat at April 11, 2017 08:31 PM (rUIbB)

Russia hacked the election, and by "hack" it means dem poll workers stuffing ballet boxes.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 11, 2017 08:34 PM (P/kVC)

104 True fact: I was, for about 12 years running, in the band at the annual Grand National Rodeo at the Cow Palace.
Best seats in the house.
They don't have bands anymore. At least, not with me in them.

Posted by: navybrat at April 11, 2017 08:34 PM (w7KSn)

105 The Cow Palace (in SF) started out intending to be a
venue for livestock shows, but even from the very beginning the
livestock auctions/shows were held only very infrequently -- maybe once
or twice per year -- and the rest of the time it would have been vacant.
Since it was built in 1941, it was immediately upon completion pressed
into service as a troop processing center for WWII, and from that moment
on it was used as a convention center and concert hall ever since, on
the 364 days a year it wasn't filled with cows. So the answer is: The
cows were back at the slaughterhouses in Tracy when bands played the
Cow Palace.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (DQ4Fv)
My dad took me to the circus in the Cow Palace back when I was nine.
God how I miss him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 11, 2017 08:34 PM (SRKgf)

106 56 OOOOOooooh!

Official band-produced Rolling Stones t-shirt -- from 1966!! :

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm251/Fucqua/66tshirtcopy_zps745e3120.jpg

I think WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

1966. Can anyone top that?
Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (DQ4Fv)

Great research, zombie.

I'd be inclined to assume that the Beatles would have thought of it earlier, but if they did it would surely be common knowledge.

So that has to be the first until someone provides evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 08:34 PM (sdi6R)

107 Any state capable of electing Kathleen Sebelius as a governor is capable of electing a democrat to a special seat.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 11, 2017 08:34 PM (Ej9qT)

108 Hmmm, I'd like to see pictures of those as proof!

But were the Beatles shirts made by the Beatles (or their parent corporations), or just by freelance fans? I suspect the latter. And the Elvis fanclub shirt was also fan-produced. So, I'm still wondering -- what was the first shirt produced by a band (or their parent company) as a promotional items for fans to wear?

I'm thinking that the Bill Graham stuff might be irrelevant -- I have a feeling he didn't start doing them until the early '70s, after the band t-shirt concept had already been invented. Sure, he may have helped to popularize them -- but invent them? Hmmmm.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:12 PM

I'm not sure one can separate it as such with The Beatles. Dunno about Elvis. The Beatles Fan Club was pretty much under their umbrella, even if they didn't start it. There wasn't a hell of a lot that they conceived and produced, themselves, for promo use barring glossy pix etc. It was often farmed out, encouraged or protested... then brought on aboard officially. Not all though. One things for sure the t-shirts were fully endorsed and the beatles wore them. It's a grey area. I know what you mean though.

Posted by: otho at April 11, 2017 08:34 PM (lmIoG)

109 Russia hacked the election, and by "hack" it means dem poll workers stuffing ballet boxes.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 11, 2017 08:34 PM (P/kVC)

There is no voter fraud in any of the 57 states!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2017 08:36 PM (gwPgz)

110 93 Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:29 PM (DQ4Fv)

Impressive. You would kick Siri's ass.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

Most interestingly, The Cow Palace is possibly the only structure in the nation with a title that was intended to be sarcastic! When the idea was first floated (during the Depression), the whiney SJWs of that era decried that the city shouldn't waste money building "a palace for cows" when they should be building housing for workers and the homeless! Oh the humanity!

But the project was pushed through anyway, and as a final jab to the SJWs, the developers PURPOSELY named it "The Cow Palace" just to piss the leftists off! Seriously!

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:36 PM (DQ4Fv)

111 the grand national at the cow palace was a week long annual event held in late fall. bull sales, horse events, cattlemen's day, bbq's, rodeos and gary leffew's buckin ball.

i was half kidding when i said the cows went to pasture, but they did.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 08:37 PM (eQSM0)

112 Mooooooooooon rising

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 08:37 PM (tHwdc)

113 >>Most interestingly, The Cow Palace is possibly the only structure in the nation with a title that was intended to be sarcastic!

ahem

Posted by: The Corn Palace at April 11, 2017 08:38 PM (2Vobm)

114 112: not here miley. not in perpetually cloudy wisconsin.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 08:39 PM (KP5rU)

115 the developers PURPOSELY named it "The Cow Palace" just to piss the leftists off!

Perfect. I guess stupidity and the left have never strayed very far from one another.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:39 PM (Tyii7)

116 0.6% Reporting, 24,030 Total Votes

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at April 11, 2017 08:39 PM (UD5U6)

117 >0.6% Reporting, 24,030 Total Votes

It's gonna be an early night.

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 08:40 PM (2Vobm)

118 Early night.

Posted by: Bill Gynn at April 11, 2017 08:41 PM (Tyii7)

119 concrete girl- Did you ever see the Ortega booth?

That is still world class rawhide braiding.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 08:41 PM (j06YM)

120 and of all the concerts i attended there i never bought a t-shirt

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 08:41 PM (eQSM0)

121 We're Very Close to a Deal on Valu-RiteCare!

Posted by: Moron Caucus at April 11, 2017 08:42 PM (XcOXh)

122 I once saw a huge brahma bull leap over a barricade into the stands, and the people were scattering like chickens to get away from it. Amazingly, no one got hurt.

Posted by: navybrat at April 11, 2017 08:42 PM (w7KSn)

123
Did they have concerts at the Cow Palace? What did they do with the cows during the shows?

Ever see a Far Side cartoon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 08:43 PM (IqV8l)

124 My folks had J Geils Band's Full House album, really great live one.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 08:43 PM (7dpmG)

125 122: sure that it wasn't brian dennehy?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 08:43 PM (KP5rU)

126 What did they do with the cows during the shows?

You don't want to know.

Posted by: Achmed the Roadie at April 11, 2017 08:44 PM (FqgrG)

127 Might've been...

Posted by: navybrat at April 11, 2017 08:45 PM (w7KSn)

128 Ever see a Far Side cartoon?

Actually, that came to mind as this bovine drama was unfolding.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:45 PM (Tyii7)

129 Now the big thing at the palace is the gun shows.
They come in half dozen times a year or so.
Local politicians have fainting spells.

Posted by: navybrat at April 11, 2017 08:46 PM (w7KSn)

130 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 11, 2017 08:46 PM (KCxzN)

131 The Beatless had all sorts of swag and knick-knacks and bobble head toys and official merchandise, clothes included. They were very heavily marketed. Whether T shirts, I dunno. Before my time, but supposedly they had well made jackets and stuff like that. Once they got into all those drugs, I think they started believing their own shit. Oops.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 11, 2017 08:46 PM (8xb3Q)

132 Whatever took place, it's certain there was plenty of cowbell.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:47 PM (Tyii7)

133 126; i heard the cows had to go to general admission. turned it into a real shitshow.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 08:47 PM (KP5rU)

134 1 when will country matter more than party?
Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 07:59 PM (0O7c5)

The godless left has made progressivism its religion and it worships its elected demigods. A demigod's sins, no matter how heinous (think Ted Kennedy and Bill and Hillary Clinton) are always forgiven or excused by the worshippers.

In contrast, the right tends to vote in self-interest (as everyone should) and sees its elected officials merely as vehicles to implement the policies desired by the voter.

Therefore the left will alway put its partisan gods before country.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 08:47 PM (TdMsT)

135
I'm just tickled that I had a small part of making the Cow Palace an AoSHQ meme.

Back in the '70s, going up north to the Palace to see a famous rock band was the shit for us teen degenerates from the San Joaquin Valley.

As to the rock T-shirt thing, I suspect that the first ones were made strictly for the roadies, and got out into the general population via black market-type deals.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 08:49 PM (cuZZW)

136 when will country matter more than party?

repealing the 17th amendment would be a good start

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 11, 2017 08:50 PM (KCxzN)

137 Mmm. Paste.

Posted by: joey biden at April 11, 2017 08:50 PM (nlbfN)

138 H.L. Mencken said something to the effect of, it's democrats job to screw things up, it's republicans job to make sure it stays that way. That was a hunnerd years ago. Hm.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 11, 2017 08:50 PM (8xb3Q)

139 >>My folks had J Geils Band's Full House album, really great live one.

My folks used to have J for dinner at our house. Really.

He was a very nice guy and smart too.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 08:50 PM (/tuJf)

140 Should I be happy or afraid?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)

141 Who else had the Jefferson Airplane play there uncles wedding?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 11, 2017 08:51 PM (6Ll1u)

142 the booths were the best part!

re: ortega
stuff is still pretty high, but well worth it

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 08:51 PM (eQSM0)

143 The Morning After

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 08:52 PM (IqV8l)

144 Best concert tee-shirt I ever saw was a homemade Robert Johnson 1929 Crossroads, Mississippi shirt. On the back It has a picture of Robert Johnson getting his guitar back from a larger Satan. It had the names of the highways/roads on a sign.

Pretty funny considering the guy told me it was suppose to be one of a kind and implied he was Satan/Legba.

YMMV. I thought it was pretty clever, but it probably was the fresh boomers I consumed earlier on Krystal Burgers.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at April 11, 2017 08:52 PM (2qHjF)

145 Who else had the Jefferson Airplane play there uncles wedding?

Go ask Alice. When she's ten feet tall.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:52 PM (Tyii7)

146 IllTemperedCur- How did I miss that you were a CA transplant. What part of the valley?

Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 08:52 PM (j06YM)

147 --
--
1
when will country matter more than party?

Posted by: phoenixgirl... at April 11, 2017 07:59 PM

-

The two sides no longer define "country" the same way.

Posted by: irright at April 11, 2017 08:54 PM (vqzjE)

148 141 Who else had the Jefferson Airplane play there uncles wedding?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 11, 2017 08:51 PM (6Ll1u)

Not me. Care to go into detail about it?

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 08:54 PM (sdi6R)

149 My Uncle Larry is a freaking cool guy

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 11, 2017 08:54 PM (6Ll1u)

150 navybrat...you being in the band is so cool.
small world.
Ben Had too.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 08:54 PM (eQSM0)

151 Who else had the Jefferson Airplane play there uncles wedding?

Not me. Care to go into detail about it?

Yes, all kidding aside, it sounds like an interesting story.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 11, 2017 08:56 PM (Tyii7)

152 Never had a rock roll T shirt but I did have a "VIVA MONTESA" T on when I met my wife (used to race them). She thought I was too young for her. Forty two years later she still wonders.

https://tinyurl.com/m5rmkkr

Posted by: Javems at April 11, 2017 08:56 PM (yOqwj)

153 JS, wow!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 08:56 PM (7dpmG)

154 not here miley. not in perpetually cloudy wisconsin.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 08:39 PM (KP5rU)

Between the winters and clouds, Wisconsin has little to recommend it to a sun worsipper.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 08:58 PM (tHwdc)

155 All surviving U.S. Army vets should be charged with crimes against humanity for using the robin-killing DDT chemical weapon.

Posted by: Concerny McConcernson at April 11, 2017 08:58 PM (nlbfN)

156
146 IllTemperedCur- How did I miss that you were a CA transplant. What part of the valley?

Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 08:52 PM (j06YM)

Pop was Navy, stationed at Lemoore NAS. Lived in Kings County (Hanford, mostly) all through junior high and high school. After my Army service went down to SoCal for over 20 years before moving to TX 2 years ago.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 08:58 PM (cuZZW)

157 shipper, whatever!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 08:59 PM (tHwdc)

158 The godless left has made progressivism its religion and it worships its elected demigods. A demigod's sins, no matter how heinous (think Ted Kennedy and Bill and Hillary Clinton) are always forgiven or excused by the worshippers.

And yet Hillary still managed to repulse a fairly large block of her constituency, which is a pretty amazing feat.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 08:59 PM (vRcUp)

159 JS, hopefully you will be able to go to Fenway shows.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 08:59 PM (7dpmG)

160 As to the rock T-shirt thing, I suspect that the first ones were made strictly for the roadies, and got out into the general population via black market-type deals.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Brilliant theory! I think you very well could be right.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 08:59 PM (DQ4Fv)

161 Went to a gun show at the Cow Palace in the early 90's. Does that happen anymore?

Posted by: irright at April 11, 2017 09:00 PM (vqzjE)

162
All surviving U.S. Army vets should be charged with crimes against humanity for using the robin-killing DDT chemical weapon.

Posted by: Concerny McConcernson at April 11, 2017 08:58 PM (nlbfN)

And I enjoyed it >

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:01 PM (cuZZW)

163 ITC- Napa/ St. Helena until '74, been in Texas ever since.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 09:02 PM (j06YM)

164
Shit. That should have looked something like

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:02 PM (cuZZW)

165 >>JS, wow!

His ex and my mother are very close. I used to house sit for them when they were traveling and did some other work for them. We had my dad's 50th on their farm, now THAT was a house party.

Just got off the phone with my mom. Very sad stuff.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 09:02 PM (/tuJf)

166 The Club For (Crony Capitalist Profits) Growth is already running paid airtime in certain Congressional districts praising the new Obamacare "deal", and urging its immediate passage, even though none of the details have been released for public view.

Sometimes, you don't have to have an especially good nose to be able to smell the rat.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 11, 2017 09:03 PM (noWW6)

167 --
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All surviving U.S. Army vets should be charged with crimes against humanity for using the robin-killing DDT chemical weapon.

Posted by: Concerny McConcernson at April 11, 2017 08:58 PM

-----------------

I thank you for your service.

Posted by: Batman's Hetero Cred at April 11, 2017 09:04 PM (vqzjE)

168 When I was 11 Uncle Larry sent me a signed poster from Jimmy Hendrix,

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 11, 2017 09:04 PM (6Ll1u)

169 See??? Vets make smiley-faces over bird genocide!

If only Trump would disavow these gaffes to stop the Dems from rightly attacking us!

Posted by: Concerny McConcernson at April 11, 2017 09:04 PM (nlbfN)

170 When Allah says no smoking, he means no fvcking smoking!

http://tinyurl.com/mb9rmc8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 11, 2017 09:05 PM (Nwg0u)

171 IllTemperedCur...who did you see there?

the bands i saw wouldn't rate on aos.
pat travers, rainbow, zz top, hagar

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 09:06 PM (eQSM0)

172 When your only offering is a shit sammich, is it better to have it made from 2 lbs of rapidly digested Kobe steak tartare or 3 lbs of partially digested, green, health-conscious tofu paste?

Condiments vary like premiums and co-pays.

Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2017 09:07 PM (MF/hn)

173 Is MD from there as well? he is undersung, Imo.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 09:07 PM (7dpmG)

174 I thank you for your service.
--------
Thank you. Brian Williams and I won the Great Meme War in 2016.

Posted by: Concerny McConcernson at April 11, 2017 09:07 PM (nlbfN)

175 And never forget that the Cow Palace played a role in the history of boobs!

Back in '64, the Republican Party (hey! I'm back on the topic o this thread!) held the GOP convention at -- you guessed it, The Cow Palace -- and all the horny conventioneers, having heard of San Francisco's "sexy" reputation (even back then), all went to the strip joints on Broadway in North Beach.

Well, the Condor Club wanted to lure all the out-of-town customers away from the Adam 'n' Eve, Big Al's and the other clubs, so they decided to have their biggest-titted dancer -- Carol Doda -- go completely topless for her entire act. (Rather that slowly strip off in a striptease, with a brief boob-flash at the end.)

Wa-wa-wa-zoooom! The lines were out the door and down the block to see Carol Doda's giant tits. And, much to everyone's surprise, it turned out that there was no actual law forbidding dancing naked. So within days the other clubs started imitating the Condor. And the clubs in other cities started imitating SF -- and before long, topless clubs before the norm nationwide.

All because of the Cow Palace!

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 09:07 PM (DQ4Fv)

176 before the norm = became the norm

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 09:08 PM (DQ4Fv)

177
163 ITC- Napa/ St. Helena until '74, been in Texas ever since.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 11, 2017 09:02 PM (j06YM)

Hell, I used to go up to Sears Point all the time, when some buddies of mine used to race motorcycles.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:09 PM (cuZZW)

178 Udderly amazing

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:09 PM (IqV8l)

179 I didn't win because the Bosnian snipers scared away my voters.

*hic*

Posted by: Hilary at April 11, 2017 09:12 PM (FqgrG)

180 Pass some kind of deal.

Then kill every part of Obozo Care on the down low with admin actions.

Deny everything and let the MSM eat a BOD's.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 11, 2017 09:12 PM (5VlCp)

181 168 When I was 11 Uncle Larry sent me a signed poster from Jimmy Hendrix,
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 11, 2017 09:04 PM (6Ll1u)

Do you still have it?

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 09:12 PM (sdi6R)

182
171 IllTemperedCur...who did you see there?

the bands i saw wouldn't rate on aos.
pat travers, rainbow, zz top, hagar

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 09:06 PM (eQSM0)

Saw Travers there, '79 or '80 ish. KISS, Ozzy, a few others.

Errrr, I don't remember much though.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:13 PM (cuZZW)

183 >>>And never forget that the Cow Palace played a role in the history of boobs!

Udderly fascinating.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:13 PM (vRcUp)

184 @178 curse you.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:14 PM (vRcUp)

185 I'm hearing on Tucker's show that some NYPD are raising their collective finger to DeBlasio and ratting out illegal immigrant thugs to ICE. Let's see more of that.

Posted by: logprof at April 11, 2017 09:14 PM (GsAUU)

186 In the future,people will talk about craftsman

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 11, 2017 09:14 PM (6Ll1u)

187 175
All because of the Cow Palace!
Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 09:07 PM (DQ4Fv)

And now you know... The Rest of the Story.

Good day!

Posted by: Zombie Paul Harvey at April 11, 2017 09:14 PM (sdi6R)

188 178, 183 Udderly predictable!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 09:15 PM (tHwdc)

189 Fucking bleeding heart public defender going against Tucker.

Posted by: logprof at April 11, 2017 09:15 PM (GsAUU)

190 Tiny little pedantic correction to Zombie's Cow Palace Wikipedia entry: The Cow Palace isn't located in SF. It's in DC (Daly City). Now it seems to mostly host tattoo conventions and pot festivals (per endless radio ads and fluorescent signs all over the peninsula). Big rock acts appear to have abandoned the Palace, however it appears to be a favorite of U2 (having played there 6 times, including last October).

Posted by: Average Guy at April 11, 2017 09:16 PM (LMcFk)

191 Udderly fascinating.
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You're ~~late~~ lactate with that comment.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 09:16 PM (nlbfN)

192 One of the worst books I ever had to read was ... of course ... forced on me by School.

The Great Gatsby.

Wife and Daughter are watching it now. Even worse that the book.

I gotta' admit ... that little Toby Whatever the Fuck His Name Is ... is perfect as the little hanger on.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:16 PM (fiGNd)

193 I have been out of the loop. Gorsuch got confirmed as Scotus justice?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM (0deF2)

194 ...and all the horny conventioneers, having heard of San Francisco's "sexy" reputation (even back then), all went to the strip joints on Broadway in North Beach. ...
Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 09:07 PM (DQ4Fv)

She would put a nip in your bear for two bits.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM (XyYvC)

195 >>>Saw Travers there, '79 or '80 ish.

front and center, about 30 people back from the stage.
i snuck two 1/2 pints in.

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 09:18 PM (eQSM0)

196
193 I have been out of the loop. Gorsuch got confirmed as Scotus justice?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM (0deF2)

Plus, there's this neat rumor that you can get the internet on your phone. Personally, I think it's poppycock.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:18 PM (cuZZW)

197 193 I have been out of the loop. Gorsuch got confirmed as Scotus justice?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM (0deF2)

--Yup.

Posted by: logprof at April 11, 2017 09:18 PM (GsAUU)

198 Udderly amazing and/or fascinating.

Posted by: Amy Schumer looking in Dane Cook's window while he's watching a Carlos Mencia special. at April 11, 2017 09:18 PM (vqzjE)

199 Damn.
Just,,, damn.
Every time I turn around

Posted by: teej at April 11, 2017 09:18 PM (UDWwk)

200 Umm the Republican is behind with 14% of the precincts reporting in Kansas.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 11, 2017 09:19 PM (XRpVC)

201 I'm sorry, I can't remember anyone walking the plank. It must be amnesia. Anyone whom walks the plank doesn't come back. Ever. So, I don't really recall anyone going off into the great void, except for our courageous Republican standard bearers. I don't believe that the other guys even shed any blood, or had to call for a medic at any time. I think that was us, clutching our private parts where we had been kicked, that was trying to wave down a taxi. We should use what we learned from that encounter, against our enemies. But, yeah, that would be mean, and they are all God's chilren in the great by and by.

Posted by: goon at April 11, 2017 09:19 PM (EaQ6/)

202
194 ...and all the horny conventioneers, having heard of San Francisco's "sexy" reputation (even back then), all went to the strip joints on Broadway in North Beach. ...
Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 09:07 PM (DQ4Fv)

She would put a nip in your bear for two bits.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM (XyYvC)

Japanese guys were cheap to buy back then, I imagine.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:20 PM (cuZZW)

203 I suspect that the first ones were made strictly for the roadies

Bingo. Many insider-type fans were deeply outraged when these became general merchandise. In the golden era, there were two (2) ways, and two ways only, to obtain a custom screen-printed T-shirt, those (2) being

(1) Work the event
(2) Work the band.

So having the T-shirt proved you were truly an "insider."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 11, 2017 09:20 PM (H5rtT)

204 --
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She would put a nip in your bear for two bits.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM

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Worth it.

Posted by: The Bear at April 11, 2017 09:20 PM (vqzjE)

205 Leon Panetta: "Never seen this many flashpoints " since WWII not much comment as to why and the disastrous leadership of Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Susan Rice et al

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 09:21 PM (7dpmG)

206 "I snuck two 1/2 pints in."

And out went the lights?

Posted by: teej at April 11, 2017 09:21 PM (UDWwk)

207 Plus, there's this neat rumor that you can get the internet on your phone. Personally, I think it's poppycock.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 11, 2017 09:18 PM (cuZZW)

Not on my phone(s), you can't. And I am OK with that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:22 PM (0deF2)

208
Leon Panetta: "Never seen this many flashpoints " since WWII

All of them happened since January 20.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:22 PM (IqV8l)

209 200 Umm the Republican is behind with 14% of the precincts reporting in Kansas.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 11, 2017 09:19 PM (XRpVC)

Hmm ... I wonder how Kansas could possibly stay "red".

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:22 PM (fiGNd)

210 190 Tiny little pedantic correction to Zombie's Cow Palace Wikipedia entry: The Cow Palace isn't located in SF. It's in DC (Daly City).
Posted by: Average Guy

Well of course I knew that, having been there many times -- HOWEVER, part of the Cow Palace parking lot is indeed inside San Francisco city limits, so one could legitimately say that the Cow Palace complex is partly in San Francisco.

The truth ALWAYS has wriggle room.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 09:22 PM (DQ4Fv)

211 I had great concerns and criticisms towards almost all of President Obama's policies but there's no way I was going to give up my position of power by resigning or overtly going against him.

Posted by: Leon Panetta at April 11, 2017 09:22 PM (FqgrG)

212 no
only one was for me
the other i traded shots for stuff in the air

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 09:23 PM (eQSM0)

213 Just trying something new here.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 11, 2017 09:24 PM (+14dW)

214 --
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Umm the Republican is behind with 14% of the precincts reporting in Kansas.

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Looks like it's gonna be an early night...

Posted by: irright at April 11, 2017 09:24 PM (vqzjE)

215 Damn. Didn't work.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 11, 2017 09:24 PM (+14dW)

216
213 Just trying something new here.

Posted by: Skunky Choom at April 11, 2017 09:24 PM (+14dW)

Try again. I dare you. I double-dog dare you.

Posted by: The Barrel at April 11, 2017 09:26 PM (cuZZW)

217 @212 -

Posted by: teej at April 11, 2017 09:26 PM (UDWwk)

218
I wonder how Kansas could possibly stay "red".

Bleeding Kansas

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:26 PM (IqV8l)

219 And, I am back at stately Peon Manor in sunny Alberta, after a week's visit to the gloom, fog, and rain of Portland, Oregon. Nevertheless, a good time was had.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:26 PM (0deF2)

220 They're bring chili with carrots in it too.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 11, 2017 08:25 PM (4ErVI)
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And speaking of orange abominations, has anyone heard from Cochran? How is he doing?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 11, 2017 09:27 PM (PhYV5)

221 192 One of the worst books I ever had to read was ... of course ... forced on me by School.

The Great Gatsby.

Wife and Daughter are watching it now. Even worse that the book.

I gotta' admit ... that little Toby Whatever the Fuck His Name Is ... is perfect as the little hanger on.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:16 PM (fiGNd)

I haven't read the book or seen the movie, but Postmodern Jukebox did a terrific cover of one of the songs from the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aNCBzax8Ec

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 09:28 PM (sdi6R)

222 Taking just what was related about Panetta's comment about flashpoints since WWII, it's idiotic. There is exactly one flashpoint - the Korean peninsula - that has the potential for any major festivities related to it.

And even that pales in comparison to many many periods in the post-war era, as Panetta should know. Today does not have remotely the sort of flashpoints that abounded in the good old days, like the Berlin Crisis, or the 67 and 73 Arab-Israeli wars, or the Cuban Missile Crisis (though that one's greatly over-rated in itself if one peeks inside the curtain at top leadership on both sides).

Posted by: rhomboid at April 11, 2017 09:30 PM (v9gSJ)

223 Just seems like they aren't trying to put the "moderates" and the Democrats on the spot. A simple law that says something simple like, "People can buy the coverage they want to buy, and any law that obstructs or hinders this freedom is hereby repealed."

I don't care if it can't pass. Make them vote against it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 11, 2017 09:30 PM (2lndx)

224 Musician John Geils has died aged 71.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 09:31 PM (nlbfN)

225 Stuff in the air

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 09:31 PM (tHwdc)

226 I was in a nobody band in '76 and we had band t-shirts. The almost practically famous Lester Lee Band.

Why?

Becuz weez Markins Baby!

On Topic: I like the pre-winning too. Waiting for the climax. Mmmm-mmm-mmm.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:31 PM (O4wiF)

227 193 I have been out of the loop. Gorsuch got confirmed as Scotus justice?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM (0deF2)

Cheers to you.
Some folks pay big bucks to get that far out.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:32 PM (XyYvC)

228 Who is the Hispanic Bush surrogate who is so awful on cnn's panels?She despises her some Trump. Why is she still on panels? McCain/Graham logic? Friendly fire fodder? Does CNN really think no one sees through her?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 09:33 PM (7dpmG)

229 They say Kansas is a conservative state. Um, I don't think so.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:34 PM (XyYvC)

230 --
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The truth ALWAYS has wriggle room.

Posted by: zombie at April 11, 2017 09:22 PM
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Hey there, Truth. How YOU doin?

Posted by: Bob Riggle... the actor.. You know, that POW! guy from Step-Brothers at April 11, 2017 09:35 PM (vqzjE)

231 So much for socking. Nowdays you don't even have to click Post to post.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:35 PM (XyYvC)

232 Stuff in the air
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 09:31 PM (tHwdc)

Classic Kansas song. Excellent cover by trip-hoppish band Daughter Darling.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 09:36 PM (8nWyX)

233 You know, with all the music buffs around here I would ha thought that @199 would have rung a bell.

Posted by: teej at April 11, 2017 09:37 PM (UDWwk)

234 229; it's all the tornadoes and the lack of trees and shit. also the lack of scenery. the only hills i remember were the railroad beds. i spent a week there one day.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 09:37 PM (KP5rU)

235 @199, Kenny Rogers and ............?

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:38 PM (XyYvC)

236
I walk the clank.

Posted by: Trump's Brass Balls at April 11, 2017 09:38 PM (t5m5e)

237 227 193 I have been out of the loop. Gorsuch got confirmed as Scotus justice?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:17 PM (0deF2)

Cheers to you.
Some folks pay big bucks to get that far out.
Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:32 PM (XyYvC)

AZ via Alberta
What did you expect

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2017 09:39 PM (UmhSQ)

238 Psychos don't try to kill Dems, dipschitt cnn.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 09:39 PM (7dpmG)

239 Stuff in the air
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 11, 2017 09:31 PM (tHwdc)

Oh, looks like Daughter Darling's cover of Stuff In the Air is on Youtube, because of course it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJmvru1DTyU

Posted by: hogmartin at April 11, 2017 09:39 PM (8nWyX)

240 >>>snuck two 1/2 pints in.

1/4 barrel would be impressive C. Girl

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2017 09:40 PM (UmhSQ)

241 @199, Kenny Rogers and ............?

Quick, what the title of Kenny Rogers psychedelic rock hit?

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:40 PM (O4wiF)

242 J. Geils done faded away.

Posted by: Faye Dunaway at April 11, 2017 09:41 PM (bc2Lc)

243 I saw Jimi Hendrix in 1968 at Veterans Memorial in Columbus Ohio. I was young and my parents forbade me to go, but I managed to get there anyway.

I also saw the Rolling Stones in Cleveland in 1973 or 74, plus Elton John, Procol Haram, Cream, The Who, Chicago, John Denver, James Taylor, Lynda Ronstadt, Fleetwood Mac, and many any others.

Guess my age is pretty apparent.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 09:41 PM (TdMsT)

244 Roaster Chicken???

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2017 09:41 PM (nlbfN)

245
Who is the Hispanic Bush surrogate who is so awful on cnn's panels?

Ana Navarro?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:42 PM (IqV8l)

246 I just checked in to see what condition my condition was in.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:42 PM (IqV8l)

247 Umm the Republican is behind with 14% of the precincts reporting in Kansas.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 11, 2017 09:19 PM (XRpVC)

Hmm ... I wonder how Kansas could possibly stay "red".

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 11, 2017 09:22 PM (fiGNd)

http://tinyurl.com/ksbbdsw
If the Republicans politicians in Kansas are going to vote like Democrats, they are going to find that Republican voters are going to stay home.

Posted by: Spicer at April 11, 2017 09:43 PM (FTXAT)

248
I woke up this morning with the sundown shining in
I found my mind in a brown paper bag within
I tripped on a cloud and fell-a eight miles high
I tore my mind on a jagged sky
I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in
Yeah, yeah, oh-yeah, what condition my condition was in

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 09:43 PM (LTHVh)

249 --
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Quick, what the title of Kenny Rogers psychedelic rock hit?

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:40 PM
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Easy. The Gambler.

Posted by: irright at April 11, 2017 09:44 PM (vqzjE)

250 Estes now in the lead in Kansas...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 11, 2017 09:44 PM (kP16F)

251 OK, Bonnie Tyler. I remember it as a duet, much like Islands In The Stream. Got a soft spot for both of them.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:44 PM (XyYvC)

252 Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 09:41 PM (TdMsT)

I was working at a record store circa '71 and got free tix to everybody. ZZ, Yes, ELP, on and on.

The only band that ran me out of the hall with volume was Mountain.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:44 PM (O4wiF)

253 Cool Kenn Rodgers cover(?)

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 09:44 PM (7dpmG)

254
I just checked in to see what condition my condition was in.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:42 PM (IqV8l)

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in.

Posted by: Spicer at April 11, 2017 09:44 PM (FTXAT)

255 250 It's a real nail biter.

Posted by: ALH at April 11, 2017 09:45 PM (LwrKF)

256 Quick, what the title of Kenny Rogers psychedelic rock hit?
Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:40 PM

I Just Dropped In to See What Condition My Condition Was In

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 11, 2017 09:45 PM (KCxzN)

257 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:42 PM (IqV8l)

Close, very close.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:45 PM (O4wiF)

258 What's there to live for? Who needs the Peace Corps?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:46 PM (IqV8l)

259 Off Spicer sock.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 11, 2017 09:46 PM (FTXAT)

260 i snuck two 1/2 pints in.
Posted by: concrete girl

isn't that a pint?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 11, 2017 09:46 PM (cPsPa)

261 j. Geils passed away.

Quick, everyone check sweasel to see who hit!

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at April 11, 2017 09:46 PM (17QyB)

262 Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 09:43 PM (LTHVh)

DING-DING-DING!!

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:46 PM (O4wiF)

263 257 The Democrats are out in the parking lot checking their trunks right about now.

Posted by: ALH at April 11, 2017 09:46 PM (LwrKF)

264 I also saw the Rolling Stones in Cleveland in 1973 or 74, plus Elton John, Procol Haram, Cream, The Who, Chicago, John Denver, James Taylor, Lynda Ronstadt, Fleetwood Mac, and many any others.

Guess my age is pretty apparent.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at April 11, 2017 09:41 PM (TdMsT)
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Nice list. I saw Steve Miller open for the Who.

Posted by: gNewt at April 11, 2017 09:47 PM (XyYvC)

265 "My folks used to have J for dinner at our house. Really. "

I'm jealous

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 11, 2017 09:47 PM (bQxkN)

266 I just checked in to see what condition my condition was in.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:42 PM (IqV8l)

I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in.

Posted by: Spicer at April 11, 2017 09:44 PM (FTXAT)

And it was Kenny Rogers and First Edition

Posted by: redbanzai at April 11, 2017 09:47 PM (FTXAT)

267 The Kenny Rogers song was used in that Coen Brothers' movie whose title escapes me at the moment. The one with The Dude.

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 09:47 PM (sdi6R)

268 DING-DING-DING!!

Cabot was faster, but I typed more.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 09:48 PM (LTHVh)

269 I always had a thing for 1/2 pint.

She was hot.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at April 11, 2017 09:48 PM (2Vobm)

270 I guess I can name my house Brad now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:48 PM (IqV8l)

271 243. with your parent or on your own?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 09:48 PM (7dpmG)

272 263: al franken has the buick gassed up and he's haulin ass for kansas with a trunk full of ballots. don't worry, they got this.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 09:48 PM (KP5rU)

273 Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man.

Posted by: The Dude at April 11, 2017 09:49 PM (bc2Lc)

274 "My folks had J Geils Band's Full House album, really great live one."

On my short list of best live albums. Listening at times is like sticking your finger in an electric socket

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 11, 2017 09:49 PM (bQxkN)

275 Parents

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 11, 2017 09:49 PM (7dpmG)

276 267; the big lebowski?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 11, 2017 09:49 PM (KP5rU)

277 You typed more righter.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 11, 2017 09:49 PM (IqV8l)

278 The Kenny Rogers song was used in that Coen Brothers' movie whose title escapes me at the moment. The one with The Dude.

Posted by: rickl

Baseketball?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 11, 2017 09:50 PM (vRcUp)

279 Here we go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULOC--qUOI

Posted by: rickl at April 11, 2017 09:50 PM (sdi6R)

280 And, not a lot of first edition collectors, either.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 11, 2017 09:50 PM (H5rtT)

281 There's a vid on YT of 'Just Dropped In' that is hysterical.

About 2 years ago, a guy I play for occasionally opened for Kenny Rogers.

Said guy sings country but has sung opera on Broadway also (with Linda Ronstadt). He was told, go out and do 20 minutes. He did. Rogers wouldn't come out for an hour. Poor Kenny's voice is gone I guess and he wanted everyone to forget what they just heard before he sang.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:51 PM (O4wiF)

282 "The only band that ran me out of the hall with volume was Mountain."

I was young for their hey day but a favoirite

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 11, 2017 09:51 PM (bQxkN)

283 yes but i put one under each arm to sneak them in

Posted by: concrete girl at April 11, 2017 09:52 PM (eQSM0)

284 --
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The Kenny Rogers song was used in that Coen Brothers' movie whose title escapes me at the moment. The one with The Dude.
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Well. That's... like, you're opinion, man.

Posted by: T. D. at April 11, 2017 09:52 PM (vqzjE)

285 ONT is NOOD!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at April 11, 2017 09:52 PM (6gk0M)

286 >>On my short list of best live albums

Derek and the Dominos- In Concert

Little Feat- Waiting for Columbus

Iron Maiden - Live After Death

Posted by: garrett at April 11, 2017 09:52 PM (2Vobm)

287 Age? Whatever.
Sounds like you had pretty good taste in music.

Posted by: teej at April 11, 2017 09:52 PM (UDWwk)

288 Kenny made a fine roasted chicken.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 11, 2017 09:53 PM (LTHVh)

289 Another possibility for the appearance of rock band T-shirts was to see if you could get people to remember how to spell the name of the band.

It didn't work.
Haram, harum, harem, whatevs.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 11, 2017 09:53 PM (H5rtT)

290 Nobody admits to being a Kenny Rogers fan. Guy is a competent musician/singer, but he's the one who licks his thumb, and sticks it in the air to see which way the wind is blowing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:54 PM (0deF2)

291 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2017 09:54 PM (0deF2)

Was shocked he didn't record a disco tune. Hell, the Stones even did that. 'Miss You'.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 11, 2017 09:56 PM (O4wiF)

292 58
I think Meadows was badly treated by Trump in this Ryancare mess. Its
very possible that Trump won NC because Meadows stuck by him during
Pussygate.All the same
time Ryan was busy stabbing Trump in the back.

Posted by: MAGA at April 11, 2017 08:20 PM (A4HOq)
****Yep, Trump might even have called Meadows out personally. I don't understand his venom against the FC and his loyalty to scum Ryan, and Priebus.I am a Trump supporter from the get go. But this healthcare thing is a disappointment so far.

Posted by: gracepc at April 11, 2017 10:08 PM (OU4q6)

293
My folks used to have J for dinner at our house. Really.

He was a very nice guy and smart too.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 11, 2017 08:50 PM (/tuJf)

Loved your mom's mac and cheese. Made me a bit gassy, but it was delicious.But I'm dead now, so I can eat as much of it as I want. Farts smell like flowers here.

Posted by: J. Geils. at April 11, 2017 10:13 PM (n3hky)

294 >On my short list of best live albums

Cheap Trick, Live at Budokan.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at April 11, 2017 11:49 PM (ZBO0C)

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