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John Lydon (aka Johnny Rotten): Media Is "Smearing" Trump Because They Fear Him
Of all the things I did not see coming, this is one of the I did not see this comingest.
Oh, and then he said Nigel Farage was "fantastic" and that he supports Brexit. He then predicts the "rag and bone trade we call the media" is going to spend a week now calling him [Lydon] a racist."In my past I’ve had that accusation thrown at me willy nilly and it's a damn hard one to have to listen to and endure -- make sure it's right," Lydon added. "There's a terrible attitude in left-wing politics -- they just feel they have the pomposity and right to just throw these accusations out without any evidence -- well don't because my world requires facts." "For the next week and a half the rag-and-bone trade that we call the media is going to be calling me a racist, that’s the tomfoolery of it all. That's going to be damn upsetting all over again to my grandkids, is'’t it?"Oh, and I looked it up: A rag-and-bone trade man is, or rather was, a guy who would go door-to-door buying unwanted household goods -- crap -- in order to sell it to people whose unwanted crap is actually even crappier. I think that's a pretty good way to describe the media. He's kind of a Trump voter -- a former Obama supporter, defining himself (very loudly) as working class, who seems to have flipped.
The former Sex Pistols frontman was speaking to ITV News when he stated: "The working class have voted and I support them. Let it be a nice exit. A truly brilliant British exit." ... "One journalist once said to me, is he the political Sex Pistol? In a way," he said. "There are many, many problems with him as a human being but he's not [racist] and there just might be a chance something good will come out of that situation because he terrifies politicians."That article notes that last year, he was anti-Brexit and also thought Trump was one angry synapse away from starting World War III. He called him a "wrong 'un." In the video in the second article I linked, he explains that while he moved to America because of Obama, "that doesn't mean I'm going to follow him to the grave" and says that politics is all "roundabouts and swing-abouts" or some other such British nonsense which I assume has something to do with pendulums swinging too far in one direction. A little more from this interview with him from French outfit AFP. I would link the English version but I can't fine one.
"I think from time to time, the world needs a shake-up. Passivity always winds up getting what it deserves[."] Trump is "the kind of kick in the ass the people seem to need." [John Lydon] understands the economic "dispair" and shares a deep mistrust of politiicans in office. "The idea of continuing on with the same policies without changing anything, that's all done now," he declares. "It's now been two or three generations wallowing in apathy, silly beards and dunce-caps. They look like each other, they all talk the same way," he says. "There's no spirit, which winds up being very negative and that opens the door to Donald Trump."Whoops -- I did find this (cached) 4gm_AiDtHQJ:https://www.afp.com/en/news/23/sex-pistol-lydon-world-was-overdue-shake+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">English version of what he really said. I wondered why they said "dunce caps." Turns out, they couldn't figure out how to translate what he'd said:
"We've had a couple of generations now that loved to wallow in apathy and silly beards and daft gray tea-cozy hats. They all look the same, they all talk the same," he said.I guess bonnets idiots meant "idiotic hats" and not "dunce caps" (which was my guess, which I see was wrong). These are tea-cozy hats. My stars. They're probably wearing them here, too. And I'd probably know that if I ever, you know, saw people. Kind of interesting -- Overton Window, tipping point, etc. Forgot the Obligatory Link: The Sex Pistols said it so well 40 years ago.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2017 07:05 PM (GPaiX)
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2017 07:06 PM (GPaiX)
Posted by: Joe Mama at March 28, 2017 07:07 PM (M5NPS)
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2017 07:07 PM (GPaiX)
Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at March 28, 2017 07:07 PM (OUTVO)
Posted by: Johnny Rotten on his way to a date with a grave. at March 28, 2017 07:08 PM (vfC/C)
we'll have a barrel of fun
Posted by: gNewt at March 28, 2017 07:08 PM (nAJ3K)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at March 28, 2017 07:08 PM (fKWf6)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 28, 2017 07:09 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 28, 2017 07:09 PM (VRsLi)
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:10 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 07:10 PM (HsYrG)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at March 28, 2017 07:10 PM (tHwdc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 07:11 PM (LTHVh)
Trouble for them is, they believe their own BS.
Posted by: Joe Mama at March 28, 2017 07:11 PM (M5NPS)
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:11 PM (LAe3v)
We need perp walks.
Posted by: gNewt at March 28, 2017 07:12 PM (nAJ3K)
Well him and a lot of uppers. But it was all Malcolm's idea.
Shine box time Mr. Rotten.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2017 07:12 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 07:13 PM (HsYrG)
I think you mean the person (or nonperson) of ambiguous or indeterminate gender.
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:14 PM (LAe3v)
what's that shitty song by Neil Young that goes "my my....mmmm mmm bla bla bla Johnny Rotten.."??
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 07:14 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
If you saw the movie... that's the point Joe Pesci leaves the bar, and returns with an ass beating.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 07:14 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:15 PM (LAe3v)
G_d bless them.
Posted by: Fritz at March 28, 2017 07:15 PM (MF/hn)
Posted by: The Media Suxs at March 28, 2017 07:15 PM (pmlAe)
Posted by: Maritime at March 28, 2017 07:16 PM (hofQS)
Posted by: Johnny Ramone at March 28, 2017 07:16 PM (bc2Lc)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:14 PM (39g3+)
See also "Holiday in Cambodia".
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 07:16 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 07:17 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 07:17 PM (HsYrG)
Crack is a helluva drug.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2017 07:17 PM (8ZskC)
California uber alles. What a phony pussy.
Posted by: 13times at March 28, 2017 07:18 PM (WHVu+)
Posted by: Syd Vichyssoise at March 28, 2017 07:18 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 07:17 PM (HsYrG)
Thanks, but I haven't decided if I'll run.
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be President of the United States at March 28, 2017 07:19 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: PC at March 28, 2017 07:19 PM (RCRTc)
Posted by: not the mama at March 28, 2017 07:20 PM (EpAnP)
I can't wait to hear from the media why this is a stroke of managerial brilliance, while Trump doing the same thing is beastly and Nazi-ish.
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:20 PM (LAe3v)
The White Stripes did a song called Rag and Bones
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 28, 2017 07:20 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 07:13 PM (HsYrG)
Punk was also a reaction against the "peace and love" hippies.
Posted by: Donna, tan now gone but with &&&&&&& to burn and so there at March 28, 2017 07:21 PM (P8951)
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 07:21 PM (sdi6R)
My My, Hey Hey, Out of the Blue:
"The King" is gone but he's not forgotten
This is the story of a Johnny Rotten (johnny rotten, rotten johnny)
It's better to burn out than it is to rust
"The King" is gone but he's not forgotten.
Its kind of making fun of those who said rock was dead, music industry etc. But like most Neil Young songs its not as profound or clear as it probably seemed to him while he wrote it, stoned out of his gourd.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:21 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: 13times at March 28, 2017 07:21 PM (WHVu+)
Hmmm, sounds like someone else a lot of people talke about nowadays? Someone deplorable.
Posted by: logprof, sports tard at March 28, 2017 07:22 PM (GsAUU)
is Sid Vicious also Sex Pistol?
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 07:17 PM (4Ejxg)
If you mean Zombie Sid Vicious, yes.
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 07:22 PM (sdi6R)
One of my favorite pun songs was "One Down Three To Go" written right after John Lennon was killed. Punks hated the Beatles. Mostly it was rebellion against the previous generation or at least, their older brothers and sisters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:22 PM (39g3+)
Well, if I had seen this painted on the post office wall in all its glory I might have thought so too.
http://tinyurl.com/7jsbt4s
Posted by: pookysgirl at March 28, 2017 07:22 PM (ar2KI)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 28, 2017 07:22 PM (aZq03)
Which are still played forty years on. When did you last hear a punk song on the radio?
Get off my lawn.
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:23 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 28, 2017 07:23 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 07:23 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Neil Old at March 28, 2017 07:23 PM (Tyii7)
Johnny Rotten has grandkids? Any chance one of them is named "Spoiled"?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 07:24 PM (DQ+OG)
They were raging against it all, because they didn't think they had the power or freedom to do anything else.
Elitist Leftists like the Clash, the Pistols were not.
Posted by: The Punk Hat at March 28, 2017 07:24 PM (rUIbB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 07:24 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: 13times at March 28, 2017 07:24 PM (WHVu+)
I
can't wait to hear from the media why this is a stroke of managerial
brilliance, while Trump doing the same thing is beastly and Nazi-ish.
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:20 PM (LAe3v)
I'm going to laugh so hard if this is another email hacking.
Posted by: pookysgirl at March 28, 2017 07:24 PM (ar2KI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 07:24 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: Regular joe at March 28, 2017 07:24 PM (ROIz5)
Punks hated the Beatles. Mostly it was rebellion against the previous generation or at least, their older brothers and sisters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:22 PM (39g3+)
Yet the very early Beatles were kind of punk in their day, when they played dive nightclubs in Hamburg before they became famous.
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 07:25 PM (sdi6R)
Okay, why'd everything go red?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 07:25 PM (DQ+OG)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 28, 2017 07:14 PM (6FqZa)
Yup....Billy Batts told little punk ass Tommy to go get his shinebox because Tommy was still a little punk. Little Tommy left, came back and ambushed Billy Batts with the other two because he knew he couldn't beat Billy Batts face to face like a man. Of course, Billy had the last laugh. Now Spider, that's another story.
Old Johnny Rotten is still a punk.....both in music and as a man.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2017 07:25 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Syd Vichyssoise at March 28, 2017 07:25 PM (vRcUp)
People forget that he savagely critiqued the overtly leftist political punks of the late '70s -- people like Joe "I Am a Communist" Strummer, etc. -- for being slaves to just another kind of establishment, and not being truly anarchic. And he was right.
Lydon also knows that he himself only became successful not because of talent but because he challenged the existing social system unapologetically. He sees an exact parallel in Trump.
So this interview did not surprise me at all.
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:26 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 07:25 PM (DQ+OG)
Better red than dead. Or something.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 07:26 PM (PY9jH)
My gut tells me J Rotten is trying to become relevant and get attention.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2017 07:26 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2017 07:26 PM (s5o+q)
The problem with a lot of punk bands is they only had like 4 songs in them. There's like 8 Sex Pistols albums but they all have the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:26 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 07:17 PM (4Ejxg)
Only superficially. His contribution to their album was almost nill. They guy he replaced was responsible for a lot of the musical writing.
Posted by: The Punk Hat at March 28, 2017 07:26 PM (rUIbB)
https://www.fivefeetoffury.com/2010/08/21/7490/
Posted by: andycanuck at March 28, 2017 07:27 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at March 28, 2017 07:27 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at March 28, 2017 07:27 PM (60SwY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 07:27 PM (PY9jH)
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:27 PM (LAe3v)
Wizards like the best and brightest who likely live a life like the punchline, "The Aristocrats."
Posted by: 80's music fan at March 28, 2017 07:28 PM (PHcLa)
Posted by: Bourbon Chicken at March 28, 2017 07:29 PM (rpMI7)
Supposedly deposed King Putt is writing a memoir of sorts. Anyone have the currentl whereabouts of Bill Ayers?
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2017 07:29 PM (OZmbA)
The fuller account in Henry Hill's book is a little different but all three were involved because they were a crew, and you worked together. The story is a bit more complicated, as it always is in real life as opposed to movies; Batts was part of an old crew coming back out of prison to take over again and the new crew didn't want them there.
That book is really interesting but you come away with a lot less respect and affection for the boys than you do with the movie. They're basically well-dressed gang banger scum with no respect or honor, despite all that bullcrap about the Mafia.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: colfax mingo at March 28, 2017 07:30 PM (PX+kj)
He was the wizard of a thousand kings
And I chanced to meet him one night wandering
He told me tales, and he drank my wine
Me and my magic man kinda feelin' fine
He had a cloak of gold and eyes of fire
And as he spoke, I felt a deep desire
To free the world from it's fear and pain
And help the people to feel free again
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 28, 2017 07:30 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 07:27 PM (PY9jH)
***********************
He's staying at The Brando and only takes calls from ValJar.
Where is his wife?
Posted by: gNewt at March 28, 2017 07:30 PM (nAJ3K)
The Blog lost a part of one of its early memes over the weekend. A bandleader who would sit out front and ride your asses until you straightened up your loose shit.
RIP Mr. Vinnie Falcone
https://tinyurl.com/kj7p9bk
Posted by: Sean O at March 28, 2017 07:31 PM (Ub3FX)
Why don't we listen to the voices in our hearts
'Cause then I know we'd find that we're not so far apart
Everybody's got to be happy, everyone should sing
For we know the joy of life, the peace that love can bring
So spoke the wizard in his mountain home
The vision of his wisdom means we'll never be alone
And I will dream of my magic night
And the million silver stars that guide me with their light
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 28, 2017 07:31 PM (QQ+il)
It's actually close to a 50/50 split -- the loudmouth late '70s new wavers are out-of-the-closest leftists now, and the ones who keep their mouth shut you can bet are in-the-closet libertarian/conservatives.
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:31 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 28, 2017 07:27 PM (PY9jH)
He's deciding whether he'll have the cracked crab or the anal prolapse tonight.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2017 07:31 PM (8ZskC)
I've been saying for years that the real rebellion, the real anti establishment, the real shocking youth are on the right. You want to freak out your parents with all their rules and you want to fight against the establishment telling you what lightbulbs you can use and how big a soda you can have? The guys banning cigarettes everywhere while they toke in their homes?
Read a Bible. Get a job and work hard. Wear nice clothes. be respectful to elders. Learn how to shoot a gun. You'll scare the hell out of the establishment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:31 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2017 07:31 PM (LAe3v)
Michael Steele is completely on board with the fake, contrived Russian scandal, and msnbc is happy to put him on tv to talk about it.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 07:32 PM (4Ejxg)
this trailer explains the amercian movement...American Hardcore !!
i was an immediate Punk fan upon hearing The Pistols in '77, was threatened with expulsion from college for blasting their music at the Admin building ...ad nauseam and i was pro-Reagan !!
and i still rag on them for sucking up to the government and believing their lies. I tell millenials now i'm an original punk and don't fuck with me..cause I don't give one shit about them or their problems.
Posted by: qmark at March 28, 2017 07:33 PM (o3/+K)
Posted by: Bourbon Chicken
Malcolm McLaren is no Brian McLaren.
Posted by: Doug Pagitt at March 28, 2017 07:33 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: 'Cold Civil War'. That seems apt. at March 28, 2017 07:33 PM (oBuXO)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 07:34 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:34 PM (39g3+)
That guy sure turned out to be a disappointment, nay, an embarrassment.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 28, 2017 07:34 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Neil Old at March 28, 2017 07:34 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: mick jagger at March 28, 2017 07:34 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: Strobe at March 28, 2017 07:35 PM (sv+WN)
i was saying to someone recently that I never previously liked God Save the Queen and especially the message (that "No Future" part, and "they made you a moron"), but now I totally GET it.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:36 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 07:36 PM (NOIQH)
I've been saying for years that the real rebellion, the real anti establishment, the real shocking youth are on the right. You want to freak out your parents with all their rules and you want to fight against the establishment telling you what lightbulbs you can use and how big a soda you can have? The guys banning cigarettes everywhere while they toke in their homes?
Read a Bible. Get a job and work hard. Wear nice clothes. be respectful to elders. Learn how to shoot a gun. You'll scare the hell out of the establishment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor ]
I once wrote a massive essay about this very topic:
https://pjmedia.com/zombie/2010/10/11/the-electric-tea-party-acid-test/
The Electric Tea Party Acid Test
"This is a memo to America's hippies:
Tea Party values are hippie values.
You heard me right. The Tea Party is the one social movement in contemporary America that can rightfully claim to be the ideological heir to the original hippie movement that started in the mid-'60s. And because of this, all current hippies and ex-hippies should support the Tea Party, and by extension Tea Party candidates.
...
In short, the Tea Party and the hippie movement share four fundamental core values:
- A craving for independence;
- A celebration of individualism;
- Joy in the freedom offered by self-sufficiency;
- And an acceptance of the natural order of things...."
...etc.
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:36 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:37 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 07:37 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2017 07:37 PM (gwPgz)
You mean the guy Hot Air was blowing as the choice for GOP president (or whatever the post is called)? That's a real surprise.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 28, 2017 07:37 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2017 07:38 PM (WDdjT)
Posted by: Inflated Scrotum Barrel at March 28, 2017 07:38 PM (fKWf6)
It was catching on. He had to be stopped.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:38 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 07:36 PM (NOIQH)
As others have mentioned, opposing starry-eyed leftism has kind of always been punkrockish too.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 07:38 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 28, 2017 07:40 PM (nlbfN)
It don't surpise me either. Dude went from White Trash to Pay With Cash. Oh - I get that. Bigly.
Ace gets one thing right again and again and again. We're in a class war. But it ain't about money. It's about old money vs new money.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 07:40 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2017 07:36 PM (NOIQH)
I've thought for a long while now that the left is the establishment--"The Man"**--and the counterculture is conservatism/small-l-libertarianism.
**But see previous AoSHQ post/thread
Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2017 07:40 PM (s5o+q)
The deadbeats were summer of lover bullshitters.
Posted by: 13times at March 28, 2017 07:40 PM (WHVu+)
Yup....Billy Batts told little punk ass Tommy to go get his shinebox because Tommy was still a little punk. Little Tommy left, came back and ambushed Billy Batts with the other two because he knew he couldn't beat Billy Batts face to face like a man. Of course, Billy had the last laugh. Now Spider, that's another story.
Interesting Fact : Joe Pesci's character is based on Tommy DeSimone who in real life was 6'2 225lbs and a violent bruiser.Desimone killed Batts because while Batts was in prison him and Jimmy had taken over Batts loan sharking operation and Batts wanted it back when he got out
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 28, 2017 07:40 PM (lKyWE)
and I speak with some small familiarity: in the late 1970s I was very friendly with a very attractive girl who was big into the NYC punk rock scene.
And Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols was charged with killing his girlfriend (named something like Nancy Splungeon) and not too long after killed himself. And the girl I knew looked a lot like the girl Sid Vicious was accused of murdering.
I also knew another girl who went to a punk rock concert in the late 1970s: I think the group was the Dead Kennedys, and the lead guitarist pretty much boasted that he could only play three chords, which kind of describes the Ramones "Rock and Roll High School".
Me? I once tried to explain to my female punk rock friend how Beethoven could keep composing music after he went totally deaf.
Posted by: mallfly the expert at March 28, 2017 07:41 PM (b7fwp)
"I would like to respond to that question, but first... "
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 28, 2017 07:41 PM (rpMI7)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2017 07:37 PM (gwPgz)
That happens I suppose when you have to keep re-attaching your right pinkie.
Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2017 07:41 PM (s5o+q)
First of all, Mr. Lydon loves his money, as well he should, he worked for it. It wasn't just because of Obama that he fled Brit tax rates.
II. The Left has been the Establishment for, what, 30 odd years now? What's punk rock about supporting the Left?
C. The Left is all about conformity. Conformity of thought, conformity of looks, conformity of habits, conformity of taste. It's boring as freaking hell.
and Delta. Mr. Lydon is now Of A Certain Age. This is very much you stupid kids and your stupid crap need to get off my stupid lawn.
Posted by: alexthechick - so not For The Children at March 28, 2017 07:41 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:42 PM (8rNrN)
https://www.fivefeetoffury.com/?s=punk+rock
(Also hot-linked in my sock although I don't know if it will work properly.)
Posted by: andycanuck at March 28, 2017 07:43 PM (nlbfN)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 07:44 PM (Pcaua)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:44 PM (39g3+)
they always say it was a reaction to prog-rock -- Yes, Genesis, even Pink Floyd. They didn't like the virtuosity, which they considered pompous and elitist.
They also thought it had become decadent in the Nietschean sense of just repeating itself in small variations.
I'm not sure people in rock would care about disco or any other genre that is plainly pop. It competes in an entirely different ecosystem.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:45 PM (8rNrN)
and Delta. Mr. Lydon is now Of A Certain Age.
This is very much you stupid kids and your stupid crap need to get off
my stupid lawn.
Posted by: alexthechick - so not For The Children at March 28, 2017 07:41 PM (dEQP3)
Nicely stated. It's funny, when you become a certain age, you realize how this shit all works.
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 07:45 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 28, 2017 07:45 PM (PCFYt)
Posted by: Auscilpyr at March 28, 2017 07:45 PM (pzA2L)
I remember my very conservative dad admiring hippie furniture/art and handicrafts on our Sunday outings down Hwy 9. They were the real freebooting renegades, not the stringy-humps holding up walls in the tenderloin.
Posted by: 13times at March 28, 2017 07:45 PM (WHVu+)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 07:45 PM (fiGNd)
Love Is Like Oxygen, too, and Wee Little Willy.
Not Ballroom Blitz. I had liked that a long time ago, and I'm not saying it's a bad song, but I've just heard it to death. It's been used in too many movies as a musical cue. The movies cliche-ified it.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:47 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 07:47 PM (ZFUt7)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 28, 2017 07:22 PM (aZq03)
He's also said recently how much he loves the Queen and how when she passes, may it be years from now, he hopes people don't misuse God Save the Queen. The song was about elitism and the aristocrat class, not Liz herself.
This is all consistent, actually. Johnny Rotten hates pathetic wanker aristocrats who think they are better than us for no reason.
You ask for aristocrats, I give you the modern Left.
Posted by: alexthechick - so not For The Children at March 28, 2017 07:48 PM (dEQP3)
Because state sponsored art usually sucks.
Not only does it suck, but it gives leftist artists a chance to "stick it to the man", while being paid by "the man".
Which is all utter nonsense.
Posted by: navybrat at March 28, 2017 07:48 PM (rnOcr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2017 07:48 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Neil Old at March 28, 2017 07:49 PM (Tyii7)
Its a great song but that video is just... mesmerising. they have a whole series of them but that's the most compelling in my book.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:50 PM (39g3+)
they always say it was a reaction to prog-rock -- Yes, Genesis, even Pink Floyd. They didn't like the virtuosity, which they considered pompous and elitist.
They also thought it had become decadent in the Nietschean sense of just repeating itself in small variations.
I'm not sure people in rock would care about disco or any other genre that is plainly pop. It competes in an entirely different ecosystem.
In an infamous interview in 1977, Johhny Rotten was asked what his favorite band was, and he replied, to everyone's utter astonishment, "Hawkwind" -- a British prog-rock band of the mid'70s.
This blew out of the water the thesis that punk was a reaction to progrock. the Sex Pistols even, at Johnny's insistence, covered a Hawkwind song, "Silver Machine,"
I think that Rotten said this merely as part of his "piss everybody -- and I mean EVERYBODY -- off, including his own fans" strategy. To always say the most counter-intuitive thing, even when it has become double-reverse counter-intuitive.
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:50 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 07:50 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 07:50 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:34 PM (39g3+)
He even bought a rifle for home defense, but the local sheriff explained that he couldn't shoot them, or he would get in trouble.
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 07:51 PM (sdi6R)
God Save the Jim Beam.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 28, 2017 07:51 PM (Tyii7)
Not really, no. They kind of nudged up against it like Green Day, but not truly punk in the way Dead Kennedies and Sex Pistols were.
Some of my favorite punk is Dead Milkmen
)Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:51 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 07:52 PM (BO/km)
my point was that Disco was very glamorous and gaudy and orchestrated (for lack of a better word) and punk rock was lower class and grubby and simple.
just as a lot of rock in the 1980s was like Kiss and Twisted Sister with the makeup and spandex and all that; and Nirvana and Pearl Jam were jeans and flannel shirts.
For what it's worth, I am pretty much life long classical (eg Beethoven) and I hear a lot of classical chord progressions in Pearl Jam (Eddie Vedder being a dopey leftist not withstanding) and I do hear hints of Schoenberg in Nirvana's "Milk It".
Posted by: mallfly the expert at March 28, 2017 07:54 PM (b7fwp)
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:50 PM (DQ4Fv)
Hawkwind? Lemmy lives!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2017 07:54 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: alexthechick - so not For The Children at March 28, 2017 07:54 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:54 PM (8rNrN)
Get off my lawn.
Posted by: pep
Green Day is technically punk, and they still get wide airplay.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 28, 2017 07:55 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 07:55 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:54 PM (8rNrN)
I know this ... you can post all the links to their works you like ... I won't click that shit.
No. Damn. Way.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 07:55 PM (fiGNd)
Love Is Like Oxygen, too, and Wee Little Willy.
Not Ballroom Blitz. I had liked that a long time ago, and I'm not saying it's a bad song, but I've just heard it to death. It's been used in too many movies as a musical cue. The movies cliche-ified it.
Posted by: ace
Sweet!
I mean, it's sweet that you like Sweet.
Here is the low-down scoop from a Sweet expert:
The three best Sweet songs are:
-- Action
-- Teenage Rampage
-- Funny Funny
"Funny Funny" was from early in their career when they were still strictly a bubblegum band. And "Action" is easily their best hard-rock masterpiece. "Teenage Rampage" is their best glam-rock piece.
Of those three, only "Teenage Rampage" was a big hit in the US.
Check 'em out.
(And you are correct, many of their other songs are overplayed and not up to snuff.)
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:55 PM (DQ4Fv)
He absolutely was. Is.
The Left can demonize us, call us names, berate us, even cut us off from income.
But, just let us get alone in that voting booth...
Posted by: navybrat at March 28, 2017 07:55 PM (rnOcr)
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:55 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: spoonfeed me at March 28, 2017 07:56 PM (bcDxW)
Ted Kennedy, on the other hand, was never too drunk to fuck. But he was too drunk to drive. And now he's dead, so it all comes full circle.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 07:56 PM (Pcaua)
Some of my favorite punk is Dead Milkmen )
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 07:51 PM (39g3+)
The Replacements were punk. And drunk.
But mostly drunk.
Posted by: filbert at March 28, 2017 07:57 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: mallfly the expert at March 28, 2017 07:57 PM (b7fwp)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 28, 2017 07:58 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: freaked
Who was once Hitler. But now, repulsed at the Polish border by a small band of recalcitrant conservatives, is but a shadow of his former greatness.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 07:58 PM (ZFUt7)
Posted by: ace
The category they're now retroactively lumped into is "space rock" -- a sort of psychedelic variant of prog rock.
Shrugs.
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:58 PM (DQ4Fv)
I still have that shoe somewhere.
Oh, and good for him.
Posted by: Rihar at March 28, 2017 07:58 PM (+ao6J)
Posted by: mallfly Methuselah at March 28, 2017 07:59 PM (b7fwp)
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at March 28, 2017 07:59 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 28, 2017 07:59 PM (LWu6U)
maybe Hawkwind are prog-rock.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 07:55 PM (8rNrN)
From what little I've heard of them, they seem to contain elements of acid rock, prog rock, and metal.
I've seen a documentary about them on YouTube that I swear must have been the inspiration for "This Is Spinal Tap".
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 07:59 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Pipe Holder at March 28, 2017 08:00 PM (jJMJE)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:00 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 28, 2017 08:00 PM (B/ae0)
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at March 28, 2017 07:59 PM (Tyii7)
Close my friend. they were the Sunk Oldsmobile.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at March 28, 2017 08:01 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 28, 2017 08:00 PM (B/ae0)
*starts skanking in living room*
Posted by: hogmartin at March 28, 2017 08:01 PM (8nWyX)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:01 PM (BO/km)
This blew out of the water the thesis that punk was a reaction to progrock. the Sex Pistols even, at Johnny's insistence, covered a Hawkwind song, "Silver Machine,"
I think that Rotten said this merely as part of his "piss everybody -- and I mean EVERYBODY -- off, including his own fans" strategy. To always say the most counter-intuitive thing, even when it has become double-reverse counter-intuitive.
Posted by: zombie
This is why liberals are so boring. Can you imagine Elizabeth Warren saying, "My favorite president is Andrew Jackson" or Bernie Sanders saying "Maybe we should revist the Puritan work ethic"? Just to piss off their supporters.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 28, 2017 08:02 PM (vRcUp)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 28, 2017 08:02 PM (hVdx9)
They are kinda punk in the way the Clash was; kind of fans of punk with the same look and influenced, but not really.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 08:02 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:02 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: mallfly Methuselah at March 28, 2017 08:03 PM (b7fwp)
The category they're now retroactively lumped into is "space rock" -- a sort of psychedelic variant of prog rock.
Shrugs.
...
yeah I hadn't gotten to the "spacey" instrumental part yet when I said they didn't sound proggy.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2017 08:04 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 28, 2017 08:04 PM (B/ae0)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 08:06 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:06 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: ace
The category they're now retroactively lumped into is "space rock" -- a sort of psychedelic variant of prog rock.
Shrugs.
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 07:58 PM (DQ4Fv)
Kinda like Steve Miller's "Fly Like an Eagle" but with crappier lyrics and faster.
Not missing anything by having not heard them.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2017 08:06 PM (5VlCp)
Christopher Guest saiys that there was no single one band that was the inspiration for the film, but instead it was based on a incident he witnessed as a hotel in which members of of an unnamed/unknown band acted like idiots:
http://flavorwire.com/481555/ christopher-guest-on-the-real-inspiration-behind-this-is-spinal-tap
That said, Hawkwind -- along with Uriah Heep and Dokken -- are the most common guesses as to being the inspirations for Spinal Tap.
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2017 08:07 PM (DQ4Fv)
Posted by: Zombie Uncle Ted Kennedy at March 28, 2017 08:08 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:08 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: freaked
You misspelled spiders.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 28, 2017 08:08 PM (ZFUt7)
I know this from a movie.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 28, 2017 08:08 PM (LWu6U)
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It seems to me that Green Day only appears on the scene/ releases an album when there is a Republican in office, so they, like Roger Waters, can scream "STOP TRUMP!!!" during their shows.
Also, they seem kind of boring. Green Day, not Roger Waters.
/and yes, there is Trump Hate during the current Green Day tour
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:08 PM (FkAXz)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:08 PM (Pcaua)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 08:09 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: freaked
Green Day and Rage Against the Machine are the worst. I'd rather be raped in the ear by a double-dicked honey badger with herpes than listen to that shit.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 28, 2017 08:09 PM (fYbFJ)
:::puts on Kyuss and flames up a foot long Doober:::
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 28, 2017 08:10 PM (B/ae0)
Posted by: freaked
Green Day and Rage Against the Machine are the worst. I'd rather be raped in the ear by a double-dicked honey badger with herpes than listen to that shit.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 28, 2017 08:09 PM (fYbFJ)
I hate RATM. Commie fucks railing against a capitalist system that made their stupid asses rich.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 08:11 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: torquewrench at March 28, 2017 08:11 PM (noWW6)
Roger Waters I really like his early stuff but he became, I'm not sure, lost in his own world or something? Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking is pretty great, but he kind of lost steam
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 08:11 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 28, 2017 08:11 PM (rpMI7)
If you are anti-establishment, shouldn't you be against basically everyone?
I can see Brexit as anti-establishment, ie, the EU
Since Trump is an outsider and not a politician, I can also see him as anti-establishment. So Johnny Rotten makes sense.
So when groups like Green Day support Obama and hate Trump, aren't they really supporting the Establishment in a Bigly way?
And doesn't that mean that they are exactly what they claim to hate?
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:11 PM (FkAXz)
Close my friend. they were the Mostly Sunk Oldsmobile.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at March 28, 2017 08:01 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:12 PM (v1g1+)
Close my friend. they were the Mostly Sunk Oldsmobile.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at March 28, 2017 08:01 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:12 PM (v1g1+)
There's a big difference between mostly sunk and all sunk.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 08:12 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: freaked
Green Day and Rage Against the Machine are the worst. I'd rather be
raped in the ear by a double-dicked honey badger with herpes than listen
to that shit.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig
***
This!
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 28, 2017 08:13 PM (hVdx9)
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I really hate the politics of Roger Waters, but he's amazing in concert. One of the few shows that I would highly, highly recommend.
If you missed his version of The Wall, you can get it on DVD. VERY, very highly recommended. A-1 Joe.
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:14 PM (FkAXz)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 28, 2017 08:14 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:14 PM (BO/km)
Martha Bayles' book "A Hole in Our Soul" which is about popular music, talks about the class aspect of British rock and punk music. Everything in England has some class aspect to it because they have always been a class-obsessed society.
Pink Floyd, Genesis, ELP, ELO - many of those musicians were middle class and it was music that appealed to middle class kids - artsy, a bit pretentious at times (think "Nights in White Satin" - which I actually like). Punk was a big working class" f all that crap" It was a missle aimed not only at elders but at the middle class kids with brighter futures who got stoned and listened to Dark Side of the Moon.
Posted by: Donna, tan now gone but with &&&&&&& to burn and so there at March 28, 2017 08:15 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at March 28, 2017 08:15 PM (Tyii7)
This is actually no surprise. Punk was always, from the start, a movement with no set rules and differing viewpoints that was united by the music. With decades in hindsight, I can say that the era was the least prone to groupthink and included a healthy cross section of all political stripes... including non political. It was always apparent that The Pistols were inclined towards, if not the right, at least anti left, PC hand wringing nannyism. Lots were and punk embraced it all, it was about rocking, and giving the middle finger to whatever pissed you off. That 9included the left.
Posted by: otho at March 28, 2017 08:15 PM (lmIoG)
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:15 PM (FkAXz)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:15 PM (Pcaua)
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:11 PM (FkAXz)
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For the most part, the Country is now run by those who hated "The Man" in the 60s and 70s. And yes, they become what they used to claim to hate.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:15 PM (j/7lG)
Posted by: UDM at March 28, 2017 08:16 PM (cuC7S)
Posted by: torabora at March 28, 2017 08:17 PM (xGqL8)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 28, 2017 08:17 PM (hVdx9)
Yep, and Johnny Rotten was working class Irish immigrant in England which is the bottom of that Totem pole.
Punk has a lot of roots in NYC, with a lot of bridge and tunnel boys coming to Manhattan with an attitude (remind you of anyone). Before the Sex Pistols there was The New York Dolls, which Malcolm McLaren copied to create the Sex Pistols. The Dolls were from Queens and The Bronx, with front man David Johansen (Buster Poindexter) from Staten Island.
The Ramones were Queens boys. (In theory more than practice they were actually sophisticated. They wanted to make great two minute records -- Phil Spector was their idol).
Disco sucked because it was Studio 54 elitist, and required a lot of money. Cocaine for disco, punk was anything you could get your hands on. Even sniffing glue.
The Ramones Rockaway Beach is one of my favorites.
I love The Clash because I ignore the politics. Some great music. Topper Headon was one of the best rock drummers ever.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:17 PM (SIY7D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHYUGBq5JsQ
Posted by: Oedipus at March 28, 2017 08:17 PM (CXLVd)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:18 PM (Pcaua)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:18 PM (Pcaua)
And the added bonus that Cornell can actually, you know, sing.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 08:19 PM (0mRoj)
Allah's Wind?.....The Goat Pistols?....The AKM's?....The Dead Infidels?
Rock the Casbah......rock the casbah.....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2017 08:19 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: Holmes at March 28, 2017 08:19 PM (fi5nC)
The thing is, their music is awesome, its just the words... so wrong and idiotic. I like several songs off of Bruce Dickinson's Balls to Picasso album, especially this one:
https://youtu.be/nzwV9cW1aaI
But the rest of the album is literally attacking George Bush senior, its just a political hack job and not even very good music. Its like freaked notes: you gotta separate performer from their work. Yes, George Cloony is a retard, but he's great to watch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:19 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at March 28, 2017 08:20 PM (CE3NN)
Posted by: Green Bray at March 28, 2017 08:20 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:20 PM (Pcaua)
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 08:21 PM (0mRoj)
I mean, huh?
I went to college with a couple of guys that loved Hawkwind.
It was weird. We'd go up to their rooms and get stoned every once in a great while and listen to Hawkwind. Everything makes more sense when you are 19 and stoned.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at March 28, 2017 08:21 PM (S6Pax)
*************
I just got stuck ina Yes hole--because of the word--
Roundabout.
Posted by: Holmes at March 28, 2017 08:21 PM (fi5nC)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at March 28, 2017 08:21 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 28, 2017 08:21 PM (fYbFJ)
Posted by: wooga at March 28, 2017 08:22 PM (5R+Re)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 28, 2017 08:22 PM (rpMI7)
Have you ever heard a song somewhere and liked it but later found out it was by weirdo freak who you don't like? Does it change the fact that you liked it before?
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:23 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 28, 2017 08:23 PM (KCxzN)
That was actually "The Body" and it was Public Image Ltd. the PIL song that sounds most like Sex Pistols music is "Public Image". Irony can be pretty ironic, sometimes.
Posted by: Rihar at March 28, 2017 08:23 PM (+ao6J)
Because yeah, their lyrics can be pretty garbage.
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:23 PM (Pcaua)
201 Johnny Rotten? Which London Boy is he?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 28, 2017 08:14 PM (oVJmc)
************
The dead one.
Posted by: Holmes at March 28, 2017 08:23 PM (fi5nC)
Posted by: BourbonChicken
That's a big Twinkie.
Posted by: Winston Zedemore at March 28, 2017 08:23 PM (S6Pax)
Bellboy!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:24 PM (v1g1+)
Until today.
For shame.
Posted by: wooga at March 28, 2017 08:22 PM (5R+Re)
*****************
Really?
Well no one expects the London Boys on the other end of The Sex Pistols....wait.
Posted by: Holmes at March 28, 2017 08:25 PM (fi5nC)
Posted by: TheThinMan at March 28, 2017 08:25 PM (6mPBH)
Posted by: zombie
One of the things I like about Bob Dylan is the way he keeps his fans on their toes. Just when they think they have him pigeonholed, he veers off in another direction.
This has happened repeatedly during his career. Every now and then he does something that pisses off his existing fans, but gains new fans in the process. Then a few years later, rinse and repeat.
The last time I saw him, last summer, he only played three songs from the 60s and 70s. Fully 2/3 of the songs were from albums he released in 2012 or later. Eight of the 20 songs were old standards, like "Autumn Leaves" and "Full Moon and Empty Arms".
The couple sitting next to me during the first set were gone after intermission, and I never saw them again.
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 08:25 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:25 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:26 PM (Pcaua)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:27 PM (4Ejxg)
I believe tea cozy hats are on the evolutionary path that led to pussy bonnets, er cunny cozies, um labial lids...
...you know what I mean.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:27 PM (v1g1+)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at March 28, 2017 08:28 PM (Tyii7)
And whatever happened to the fake govt-caused energy crisis in California about 15 years ago with all their "rolling brownouts"??
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:28 PM (4Ejxg)
Roger Waters said after that he'd never play again without a Wall between him and the audience. Light bulb goes off
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (SIY7D)
They certainly weren't heavy metal (The Yardbirds) , R&B rock (The Stones and Cream), Music hall rock (The Beatles).
They were always acting angry, and busted up stuff at the end of their concerts. The culmination of all that was "Quadrophenia". The Punks after that (the real Punk Rock wave) had a lot more hard rythm, less of any of the previous forms and calculated primitive approach, to emphasize their revolt against everything previous, and the Middle Class.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (S6Pax)
Posted by: UDM at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (cuC7S)
Yeah when he started to play an electric guitar his fans were OUTRAGED!!!! He had spoiled, sullied his beautiful words!
The guy cannot sing but boy can he write.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (39g3+)
No, there actually was a Sex Pistols song called "Bodies" that was about abortion.
Posted by: wooga at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (5R+Re)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2017 08:30 PM (0tfLf)
...you know what I mean.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
A vag vueltiao?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 28, 2017 08:30 PM (fYbFJ)
Pete Townshend loved punk too. He saw them as the future of rock and roll. Maybe he was right.
Pete kinda lost his way too, he's put out some interesting stuff but it hasn't been really great since White City.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:31 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:24 PM (v1g1+)
Got to get running now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2017 08:31 PM (auHtY)
You mean odd/even days to buy gas depending on your license plate number? Gas lines around the block? Yep - I remember all of that. All caused and made worse by Jimmy Carter - the guy who gave away the Panama canal.
Posted by: moon over vermont at March 28, 2017 08:31 PM (UwgyD)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:27 PM (4Ejxg)
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*Raises paw*
I remember sitting in gas lines, cursing out Carter and his price controls that were the only reason for any shortages.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:31 PM (gJ3yj)
Posted by: freaked at March 28, 2017 08:31 PM (BO/km)
Not just about abortion, EXTREMELY OPPOSED to abortion. Which is about the most anti-establishment, shock the squares thing you can possibly say today.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:32 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 28, 2017 08:32 PM (rpMI7)
...you know what I mean.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
A vag vueltiao?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 28, 2017 08:30 PM (fYbFJ)
******
A dewy derby of delight?
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2017 08:32 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Jimmah Cahtah at March 28, 2017 08:32 PM (Tyii7)
The only true punk band were the Queen Haters.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2017 08:32 PM (auHtY)
Have you ever heard a song somewhere and liked it but later found out it was by weirdo freak who you don't like? Does it change the fact that you liked it before?
Sid Vicious performing "My Way". Sinatra was okay doing it. Vicious was pure in your face genius.
I thank "Goodfellas" for introducing it to me.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:32 PM (v1g1+)
All these years I thought it was Knights in White Satin, which sounded kind of gay, but indeed, it is nights, not knights. I learn so much here.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (vRcUp)
The gas lines were during Carter, not Ford?
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (4Ejxg)
Allah's Wind?.....The Goat Pistols?....The AKM's?....The Dead Infidels?
Rock the Casbah......rock the casbah.....
--
Yeah. Pretty sure music is haram.
/however, there's still goat effing! And young boys!
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (FkAXz)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:27 PM (4Ejxg)
And all the Western land he wanted the BLM to take over. Gas lines, his version of the fireside chat. What a loser.
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (SIY7D)
She was a girl from Birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was a case of insanity
Her name was Pauline she lived in a tree
She was a no-one who killed her baby
She sent her letters from the country
She was an animal
She was a bloody disgrace
Body I'm not an animal
Mummy I'm not an abortion
Dragged on a table in a factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming
Body screaming fucking bloody mess
It's not an animal it's an abortion
Body I'm not an animal
Body I'm not an abortion
Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess
I'm not a discharge I'm not a loss in
Protein I'm not a throbbing squirm Ah!
Fuck this and fuck that
Fuck it all and fuck the fucking brat
She don't want to baby that looks like that
I don't want to baby that looks like that.
Body I'm not an animal
Body I'm not an abortion
Mummy! Ugh!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:34 PM (39g3+)
No, there actually was a Sex Pistols song called "Bodies" that was about abortion."
Ok. Granted. However in "The Body" The lyrics reference abortion also:
"Oh, when you run about without precautions
And you'll get disease and need abortions
Up till now, no vaccination
Can give you back your reputation"
Posted by: Rihar at March 28, 2017 08:34 PM (+ao6J)
No, there actually was a Sex Pistols song called "Bodies" that was about abortion.
Posted by: wooga at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (5R+Re)
Correct!......"Holidays in the Sun" was good I thought.
Describes ahole tourists to a tee. It kinda came true too.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2017 08:34 PM (5VlCp)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:27 PM (4Ejxg)
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My parents had a '72 Cadillac Fleetwood.
It got negative MPG.
That was not a fun time, since the economy also sucked.
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:35 PM (FkAXz)
Posted by: broseidon on even newer magic glowy rectangle at March 28, 2017 08:26 PM (Pcaua)
Taking dick-measuring to a whole new level.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 08:35 PM (0mRoj)
I remember this one time, when I was barely a zygote, I made the mistake of touching the thermostat.
Dad yelled, "Don't you KNOW there's an energy crisis?!? They don't teach that at school!?!?"
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:35 PM (4Ejxg)
Yep. One of my favorite bands during the '70s.
The Kinks had a few ur-punk songs like You Really Got Me
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:35 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (4Ejxg)
1979 around the time of the Iran hostage crisis. Old Jimmah really had the country running. Into the ground
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2017 08:35 PM (auHtY)
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Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 08:35 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Green Bray
Wouldn't Groin Day be a more appropriate name? Wouldn't surprise me if Billy Joe Armstrong had blown a clown or two.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 28, 2017 08:36 PM (vRcUp)
Dad yelled, "Don't you KNOW there's an energy crisis?!? They don't teach that at school!?!?"
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Interesting. IIRC, my parents thought the energy crisis was cr@p, and that putting the thermostat down to 65 during the day and then up at night wasted more energy than keeping it a sane temperature all day.
Also... they thought Carter was an idiot.
Posted by: shibumi at March 28, 2017 08:37 PM (FkAXz)
Yeah when he started to play an electric guitar his fans were OUTRAGED!!!! He had spoiled, sullied his beautiful words!
The guy cannot sing but boy can he write.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:29 PM (39g3+)
Not only that, but many people said his electric shows in late 1965 and early 1966 were the loudest concerts they had ever heard up to that time.
He really turned it up to 11. It was as if he was shoving it in their faces, and trying to be as loud and obnoxious as possible.
Kind of like punk, eh?
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 08:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 28, 2017 08:37 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (SIY7D)
The ones I know have come from very comfortable backgrounds. But they're always sooooo concerned about the poor as long as the poor don't get anywhere near them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2017 08:38 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (4Ejxg)
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It happened under both. '73 was OPEC letting everyone know who was boss. '79 was that fcuking idiot Carter instituting price controls along with another OPEC production cut.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:38 PM (gJ3yj)
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 08:38 PM (vsYKI)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 28, 2017 08:39 PM (RrhD2)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (4Ejxg)
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It happened under both. '73 was OPEC letting everyone know who was boss. '79 was that fcuking idiot Carter instituting price controls along with another OPEC production cut.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:38 PM (gJ3yj)
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'73 was Nixon not Ford.
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 08:39 PM (vsYKI)
Ford was WIN (Whip Inflation Now). Gas lines were Carter. I remember driving my (now) wife to Virginia in 1979 for her first posting and trying to gauge which state I'd be in on the way back when I got low on gas. It was important because on any given day some states were even, some odd. You had to run low in the correct state. Remember finding some in Maryland with a old guy sitting in the shade at the gas pumps in a rocker with a shotgun in his lap.
Posted by: moon over vermont at March 28, 2017 08:39 PM (UwgyD)
257 How many of you young punks are old enough to remember the fake "energy crisis" in the '70's?
I remember a coworker in my college dorm's cafeteria dishroom telling me that the funniest thing he saw that day was "a camel jockey hitchhiking on M-26 with a gas can in his hand." That would have been about the time of the '73 Arab-Israeli War.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:39 PM (v1g1+)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 08:39 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:33 PM (SIY7D)
The ones I know have come from very comfortable backgrounds. But they're always sooooo concerned about the poor as long as the poor don't get anywhere near them
Posted by: TheQuietMan
Ironic that in order to be a True Believer, they have to be a member of the "exploiting class".
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 28, 2017 08:40 PM (fYbFJ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 08:40 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 28, 2017 08:41 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Billie Joe Armstrong at March 28, 2017 08:41 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:42 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: UDM at March 28, 2017 08:42 PM (cuC7S)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 28, 2017 08:43 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Seal at March 28, 2017 08:43 PM (fYbFJ)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:44 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 08:44 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:44 PM (SIY7D)
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Did plates not have letters in the 70s?
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 08:46 PM (vsYKI)
Posted by: chavez the hugo
You must be confusing me with Hootie.
Posted by: Seal at March 28, 2017 08:46 PM (fYbFJ)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:44 PM (SIY7D)
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Yep, and back then those cars burned about 3/4 of a gallon idling in gas lines.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:47 PM (gJ3yj)
Posted by: Lone Ranger of the Ad Council at March 28, 2017 08:47 PM (o7l6R)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 08:47 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2017 08:47 PM (SIY7D)
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:47 PM (gJ3yj)
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Per hour.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:48 PM (gJ3yj)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:48 PM (uKRys)
That reminds me,
the same Regressive communities who have their police force TICKET YOU for idling your own car on your own property or on public property are also "sanctuary cities" harboring foreign criminals.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:48 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:49 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 08:49 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:49 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 08:50 PM (LTHVh)
with a 460 in it?
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:51 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:48 PM (4Ejxg)
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I did that all the time in Winter in Chicago. Took a good 10 minutes to get the temp needle to even budge in deep winter.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:51 PM (gJ3yj)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 08:51 PM (LTHVh)
One of the few things "Doonesbury" nailed to the wall was Uncle Duke telling Honey, "All labor unon leaders love the working class -- that's why they do everything they can to get out of it."
The other was MacArthur typing up Duke's accomplishments as Governor(?) of American Samoa and opening with the title, "Accomplishments Inflicted on Samoa by His Excellency, Governor Duke". Duke complained about him using "inflicted" and MacArthur responded, "Why, did I get the tense wrong?"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:51 PM (v1g1+)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:52 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 08:52 PM (LTHVh)
What's really stupid is that if you drive a stone-cold car, you're burning way more fuel than you would if you let it up warm up to normal operating temperature.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:54 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: otho at March 28, 2017 08:54 PM (lmIoG)
Posted by: #neverskankles at March 28, 2017 08:55 PM (vsYKI)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 28, 2017 07:09 PM (oVJmc)
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I clicked to say the same thing, only without the "I think".
Posted by: Axeman at March 28, 2017 08:55 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:56 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:56 PM (uKRys)
Nanny state bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 28, 2017 08:57 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 08:57 PM (v1g1+)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:57 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 08:54 PM (4Ejxg)
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Back in 79 they were begging us to just drive slowly to warm up the car instead of letting it idle, to save gas. Of course, the windshieled fogged up on the inside if you did this, due to your body heat and the breath you exhaled, making it very unsafe to drive.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 08:58 PM (gJ3yj)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 08:58 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:58 PM (uKRys)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:56 PM
I see.
Posted by: otho at March 28, 2017 08:58 PM (lmIoG)
The way I heard it is start your engine and start driving, but take it easy at first until both the engine and transmission get up to temperature.
Then again, I have never lived in an extremely cold climate.
Posted by: rickl at March 28, 2017 08:59 PM (sdi6R)
Is this the part where we all compare bad ass cars ?
My entry is a '78 LTD, driven in '90. I put my Dad's Craig PowerPlay deck from his old van in the dash - and bought some fifty dollar speakers to mount in the back. Red with White Rag Top.
That backseat was a Jackson Pollock way before I'd ever heard of the dude. No Tens ... but plenty of Ones.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 08:59 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2017 08:58 PM (uKRys)
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I am painfully aware of that idiotic rationale. Later totally debunked.
Posted by: Flyboy at March 28, 2017 09:01 PM (gJ3yj)
Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif earlier this month ordered that blasphemous content on social media be removed or blocked and that anyone posting such material be punished, and the government requested a meeting with Facebook.
Gee, I wonder if Farcebook would do the same about blasphemous content regarding Christianity?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2017 09:01 PM (auHtY)
Posted by: ScoggDog
The back of my El Camino was a Jackson Pollock too.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 28, 2017 09:01 PM (fYbFJ)
Transmission fluid is very thin so it won't take long to warm up.
Plus, the torque converter is full of fluid and being warmed up by the engine at idle.
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 09:02 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 09:03 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 09:03 PM (KP5rU)
... slow down, save gas. got them from the amoco station. i never fucking slowed down. i was going to use all the gas the dipshits didn't burn. fuck em i got mine.
Ranks right up there with our daughter getting all righteous about carbon emissions until I threw, "Thems high and mighty sentiments coming from someone who spent four or five years joyriding in the Brandywine Valley as well as the greater tri-state area." Optical daggers were the typical response.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2017 09:04 PM (v1g1+)
Posted by: driving on the parkway at March 28, 2017 09:04 PM (wpC7C)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 28, 2017 09:01 PM (fYbFJ)
Yeah ... but you had a cool car. So eat shit.
Not quite as cool as one of those 80s Monte Carlos - those were bad ass. But still - if you had an El Camino - you were basically trying to score from third.
Not that hard.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2017 09:04 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 28, 2017 09:05 PM (LTHVh)
Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 28, 2017 09:06 PM (4Ejxg)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 09:06 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 28, 2017 09:07 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at March 28, 2017 09:09 PM (7z+hw)
Posted by: Ugly Mind Babies at March 28, 2017 09:20 PM (FA5B9)
There have been and are still punk bands around, none of which have had large commercial success, e.g., Leftover Crack, Guttermouth, Strung Out. Plus equally anti-establishment variations crossing into the metal world, like grindcore/mathcore (the Number 12 Looks Like You, House of Troy). Fun stuff. Even for this old fart.
Posted by: oddnot at March 28, 2017 09:21 PM (g1MTt)
I'd bet he never bitched about that again.
Posted by: CPT11A at March 28, 2017 09:21 PM (hxUdS)
I join the crowd here and hate the Green Day poseurs. Freaking phonies.
Posted by: tony at March 28, 2017 10:32 PM (42kKa)
Posted by: Billy Joe at March 28, 2017 10:45 PM (6BGgQ)
Maybe we should call them Tea-Cooze hats.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at March 29, 2017 01:10 AM (j1Wvr)
I remember the rag and bone man coming past my house driving his horse and cart, when I was a child in London in the early '60s.
Posted by: Clovis Sangrail at March 29, 2017 05:42 AM (T9SS+)
Dallas TX around 1977 or 1978. Lot of noise and alot
of gob smacking or whatever they called it - I call it
spitting- especially between some punk chicks and Sid.
I was there but not part of the crazy. Johnny was thrashing
around -I didn't know people were that flexible -flopping
up and down like a rag doll.
Posted by: Glenn John at March 29, 2017 12:59 PM (LilNs)
I like their early albums but they were mostly boring
on stage. Strummer very preachy lead singer.
One of the best shows I saw back then was Split Enz
from New Zealand. A very entertaining group. They
were wearing those suits that are black and white.
Posted by: Glenn John at March 29, 2017 01:07 PM (LilNs)
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